Knowledge Fight - 1097 November 15 2025

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan look on as Alex attempts to cover Trump calling Marjorie Taylor-Greene "Marjorie Taylor-Brown" because she wouldn't stop talking about Epstein, which even Alex has to admit looks a little guilty.

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I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship with the altar of Celine, and then talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. A quick question for you. What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today. And I realize that I don't remember if I've done this before or just talked about it. But we're fucking doing it this year. Okay. I got a cheese advent calendar. Okay. Yeah. You went full cheese advent.

I've got a cheese advent calendar and I'm really excited about it. And I would like to enlist anybody who would like to make a cheese advent calendar type sting for me to play whenever I discuss the cheeses that are in the advent calendar. All right. All right. I could have just thrown this out to DJ Danarky, but I want, there's 24 cheeses here. Sure. There's plenty. You want like a the zing of the day?

You want one of those? Anything. Yeah. Something about cheese. All right. Anyway, so if people would like to create those. Send them to Jordan at knowledge site at gmail.com. I will listen to them.

You know, here's my problem, and I think this is my problem as maybe a person living in society. My instinct is to be like, well, how can you do a cheese advent calendar? There's not 24 cheeses. There's so many cheeses. There's like five cheeses because there's only that many colors. So wrong. So definitely wrong. And here's also the exciting piece of this.

Yes. So if people want to put in these theme songs and want to make little stings, we'll all have a great time with it. Fine. Yeah. But also, the 18th and the 19th are live show dates. That's right. There will be cheese. We'll have to eat cheese on stage. The 18th and the 19th are covered in this 24-day cheese adjunct calendar.

You can't leave it at home. The tension. Who knows what it will be. Right. Show day is going to be intense. I can't give up on this cheese edmunds. Advent calendar. Right, right, right.

Because I'll have a room full of people screaming cheese at me. Yeah, you know, my now wife, we scheduled a trip only a few months into our relationship because it's like, hey, well, at least we'll be together until this fucking trip, right? That'll work. Sure. So this is my means of accountability on cheese. Yep. I like it. And it's always fun to open up those little doors and find something behind it.

I mean, I don't know why, but an Advent calendar is always surprisingly kind of fun. Yeah. So what about you? What's your bright spot? My bright spot is today while we were recording is Tea Day. Went and spent the afternoon with my family. It's lovely. It's great.

They're great. It's good times. We had food. Jordan. We ate it. There were children there. Do you really want people to know that you celebrate Thanksgiving? Do you really want your leftist credibility to be called into question?

Yeah. I celebrate Columbus Day. I celebrate it twice a year. I want to make sure that Columbus is remembered appropriately. Wait a second. Because he discovered America maybe four times. I've got a bad argument. What's that?

If you celebrate Columbus Day twice a year, kind of waters down the importance of Columbus Day, right? So two is better than one. Sure, sure. It's less special. It makes both of them kind of weaker. Well, there's Christopher Columbus and then really I celebrate Colombo Day. So it's not the same.

It's a lot better. In fact, there's one more thing. about it is that the food is better. I'm just nodding aggressively. I can sense it. It's great. It's really good. I'm glad you had a good time with your family, though.

What's your side dish of choice? I'm a mashed potatoes, man. Of course. Go deeper. What's next? After mashed potatoes. Let's see. Mashed potatoes, then I go to corn.

I'm not an exotic Thanksgiving dish. I don't like a casserole, my man. I don't like a casserole. I think corn's a little basic. I'm a little basic. But I think, you know, stuffing, cranberry sauce, any of those answers would have been kind of basic.

Don't do that. We don't do that. What? We're not, where, listen, this is a family of not necessarily what you would describe as good cooks. Sure. We don't do the, we have not stuffed anything in a long time. Yeah.

But, okay. Okay, I was just going to say, here's what just happened in my brain. Yeah. I was going to say, hey, you don't have to be good cooks. You can have that cranberry sauce in a can. Yes, you can. And then my brain flashed back to Adam Carolla screaming about cranberry sauce in a can every year at Thanksgiving and about how it's white trash and how all you have to do is get some sugar and put some cranberries in a pan. You can make your own cranberry sauce.

Well, there is that. And then my brain was like, I bet he did that rant this year. I bet he did. I bet he's still doing the cranberry sauce rant on his show. That's a bit. Yeah. That's his holiday bit. Brutal.

I bet he doesn't even do it on holidays. I bet he does it in February. Yeah, get some canberry in a can. And everybody's like, oh, yeah! Anyway, good times. Holidays, wonderful. Yep. So today we got an episode to go over.

All right. And we're going to be talking, hey, it's kind of fitting. We're recording on a holiday. That's true. You should have the day off. Yep. And we're going to cover an episode from a Saturday when Alex should have had a day off. Just taking the fucking day, man.

So it's November 15th, 2024. All right. And we'll get to that here in a second. But first, let's say hello. to some new wong. Oh, that's a great idea. So first, my daughter Skel. She's been trawling through the back catalog

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Thank you so much. I'm a policy won't. I'm a policy won't. Thank you very much. Come on now. That one was pretty good. You did a solid cold read on that one. Well, the other one really appears to be German, and I don't know what those words mean.

No. And I don't want to. It was a tongue twister. It looked like German, and my first thought as I read it was bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. Yep. Okay. Yeah. There's no spaces in this, so I'm going to give it a shot.

We have a technocrat in the mix. So thank you so much, too. Dan mocking Jordan, mocking Russell, mocking Alex. Dear God, save me. I'm crying and I can't breathe. Thank you so much. I love you, little loser, titty, baby. From the mailman, from Tom the mailman.

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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. That one wasn't so bad. No. Here's where my brain's weird. I forgot that we did an episode that touched on Russell Brand.

So when I saw Russell in that name, the first thing that I thought of was Russell from Survivor. Right. And I'm like, when did we talk about Russell Hans? I don't think we did. No. I don't think we've ever talked about Russell Hans. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah, well, that's probably why we haven't talked about him.

So, Jordan, another person who sucks. Yep. Jeffrey Epstein. Equally. Equally sucks. That's how crazy this guy sucks. Russell Hans and Jeffrey Epstein, the only two at that level. Jeff, Jeff did a lot of bad stuff.

Yeah, sure. And I don't mean to minimize that. But Russell Hans burned people's socks on Survivor to make them less comfortable. Yeah. He's a bad dude. That's a real dick move. So, anyway. Moving on.

start off the show and there's more shit coming out obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's more trouble in paradise for Alex. Sure. And he's just like, you know what I fucking hate? I hate people who make deceptive headlines and make deceptive tactics. Sure. Don't we all?

See the headline, though, oh, Trump with an unnamed girl in new emails and then they black them out so that you have nothing but innuendo. That is a tactic of deceivers. and that's what pisses me off when people do that and cherry pick things and just leave a vague, esoteric, gnaustic thing out there that people can then project whatever they want on to. And it's the same. Now, the Republicans are responding tit for tat,

though they say the bill will be passed by next week, to release hundreds of thousands of documents. There's already 20,000 that they have released. and reading over it last night and today, hours of it, it's just all complete crap. And that's because even the stuff on Democrats isn't very bad, even though 99% of us Democrats, because the comies and all the rest of them

have already gone through all this stuff when they controlled the files. Alex shouldn't be saying that the stuff that was revealed in the emails that have been released so far aren't that bad. He still talks about how bad the Pizza Gate emails are and making those into a village, villainous plot requires all kinds of imaginary code languages and made-up details, whereas these emails are pretty fucking direct.

Leave all the rest of it to the side, and consider that in 2018, Epstein and Steve Bannon were exchanging emails and texts about making a documentary that was meant to clean up Epstein's public image. They were discussing possible directors for the project, and Bannon suggested someone who could make a, quote, potential hagiography. It's like a saint or some shit. That was in 2018. Trump was already president, and Epstein already, he actually, he messaged Bannon saying, quote,

Trump wakes up in the middle of the night's sweating when he hears you and I are friends. These emails and messages are not a dud, and they paint a very damning picture. It's just not a picture than Alex can sell to the audience. His credibility in this stage of his career is wrapped up in Trump, and by proxy, his mainstream Trump credibility is reliant on his connections with Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson. Openly acknowledging that one of these people was good friends with Epstein in 2018 and wanted to help him rehab his public image is very personally threatening for Alex.

To admit that's true would require him to go scorched earth on Bannon and Alex knows that he can't afford to do that. So he's just, yeah, no big deal. Nothing that bad in there. It's all good. Has Bannon taken any serious heat or is everybody just like, this guy's such a psychopath? We already knew he would do this shit. I think he's taking some serious heat, but in the way that, like, Bannon is Bannon.

Yeah, right? Everybody's like, hey, he's been hated for a long time. You're a bad guy. And he's like, yeah, man, that's where, did anything change? I was a bad guy earlier, too. No, I don't. Yeah, I think his status quo is reasonably level. Everybody already hates you.

Yeah. Well, there's something to be said about that. And there's already been a season where the people who love Trump hated him. Right. So, like, he's gotten that. hate from all around. He knows that the public's mind is fickle. Yeah. And I think he's rich and doesn't

give a shit. That is, that is the problem with where we are now is that if you've got enough money, you kind of know that there is another side that you can punch through. Sure. Yeah. And like, ultimately, trying to make an image rehab documentary

for Epstein, like that's not illegal. It's just it means you're a piece of shit. Sure. It's not illegal. I mean, I guess it's not a lot. I, listen, I like free speech as much as the next guy, but some limits should be turning a horrifying monster into a saint. Maybe that's actually a thing I'm against. So it's illegal to hear both sides of a story?

Exactly. It 100% is illegal to hear both sides of this story. Okay. Yep. So I think that maybe Bannon's less worried about that because it's not like, there's not illegal. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

So Tucker Carlson lately has been doing more monologues on his show. Okay. Doing some, hey, here's what I think. Haranging. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, stepping on a soapbox. Is anti-Semitism bad, actually? That's a good question for evil.

So, this has gotten some comments from, like, Mark Levin has been like, Look at this guy doing more monolog. Look at this Nazi. So Alex complains about Mark Levine complaining about Tucker Carlson, and that ends by demanding to see Mark Levins' dick. All right. By the way, I love a neocons, just a side point. I've heard a bunch of people.

of them like Shapiro and Mark Levin and others are like, look, we try to live in's voice, look, did you see? Now he's addressing his audience and lecturing them up there doing monologues. He's never done that before. Now he's not just doing his podcast. He's doing a nightly show a lot of nights because he knows he's in trouble and his show's falling apart. Tucker's numbers have never been bigger. they're 10, 20 times bigger than Fox in the aggregate,

I encourage Tucker, along with others, years ago, to do more live shows, to do more monologues, because that's what he was famous for at Fox. When he left Fox years ago, and the show came back, I said, I like the podcast, I like the news thing, but I said, I like to see more monologue. And he told me in Florida eight months ago, he was going to bring it back. And then he said, yeah, I'm doing two or three nights a week,

but it takes a lot of preparation. I just said do more of it. Skin of the pants, they're sitting your pants. And so again, he never did monologues before. Oh, he's just totally famous for that. It's just all lies.

They take everything he does, just like they with me, and turn into some victory for them. So now addressing people directly is weird. That's what you do in your radio show, Mark. Are you a lunatic? But again, they take everything and turn it into something. I've been talking for,

you know, 40-something minutes here, teleprompter free, I can go for 10 hours. Do I need to be put in a rub a room? Is it because I'm desperate? Why, you, what, what, this, what you, now you're not just doing a podcast or interviews? What is this? What is this weirdness where you're, you're lecturing us and talking at us? That's weird. As, well, then does the exact same thing.

I mean, a bunch of them have done this. It's just, it's weird. And our numbers are all up. Their numbers are a bit in the tank. That's on record. While, well, then, I got a biggest show than he does. And I see him in person, he better watch out. Wow.

My dick's bigger than you, Tucker. Really show us then. Actually, we don't want to look at it. Come on, I want to look at that dick. You know what? Let me ask a question. And I feel like this is not a question that's been brought up often enough. Have people ever just, like, measured their dicks, and then that's the end of it.

You know, like, it's just like, hey, man, you got an inch on me? I guess I'm going to get out of here. No. You know? No. Or even metaphorically. You know what I mean? It's always been a conversation about something else.

Yeah. You know, so even if you're shown to have a smaller dick or a bigger dick or whatever, whatever those feelings you are having don't go away. So I think, no, it's. Then I feel like we shouldn't even have dick measuring contest, Dan. Yeah. I feel like with that, I feel like they don't accomplish anything. Well, I mean, that's going to upset the economy.

That's probably true. I think that there's just, I think there's a fun tension in me telling you ahead of time that this is going to get to a dick. Yep. And then as you're listening to, you're like, how does this get there? How does this land? When do we get to a dick? Yeah.

So it should also be an indication of how kind of dull all of this is that he said, I'm 40 minutes into the show. Let's, wow, 40 minutes of whining. Nothing happening. Yeesh. We're 40 minutes before I asked you to see a dick. Yeah. Let me see that dick, Mark. Yeah.

Come on. Is that maybe a way of measuring, like, how boring or what type of? of news day are we having is the length of time it takes Alex to get to. I want to see your dick. Uh-huh. I think if you ever get there, it's not good. It's not a good day. It's not a good day. No, you're fair. You're right. So I pulled this clip, but I'm actually going to skip it because it's very long and I realize that it's actually grosser than it is worth. But I will discuss what happens. All right. Because it does take up a long portion of Alex's show. I assume he treats the victims of many people with a lot of respect and care. and absolute understanding and empathy for what they're going through. No, he says some horribly offensive things about sexual assault and rape.

Yeah, that sounds about rape. But he's doing it mostly to attack these podcasters, who are the hosts of I've had it. It's a podcast. Okay. I've had it. Wait, wait, wait. He's talking about a different fucking podcast? Well, yeah, because it's hosted by women.

Motherfucker. Yeah. What the fuck? We're here. God damn it. Yeah. God damn it. Yeah.

Fuck me. But they're mean to Trump and their women. Well, that's fair. I think he saw a meme that involved casting them in the part of like the sea hag in Popeye. Okay. So Alex spends a lot of time talking about them and I don't know. It's a mess and it's really, really disgusting. Yeah, that's horrifying.

Great. And also they're both blonde. Sure. And the sea hag is. not from Popeye. That's a very good point. Come on, guys. This is the real issue that we need to get to the bottom.

Yeah. Absolutely. Come on. Yeah. I mean, look, we all know that misogyny runs rampant throughout this world. But who knows what color people's hair are? Right. Yeah.

And she always wears a scarf. Which is like, I get why you don't all instantly know the color, right? That makes sense. Anyway, we'll skip ahead from there. Good. And we get to another really important thing, and that is Alex complaining about how no one appreciates him enough. These people are a joke, but because the general public, even though the quasi-awake public, is still illiterate all this, and I don't blame you. My God, the thousands of

hours I spent on Epstein, I must have spent months and months and months and months of my life on this. And we already know what it is, a Mossad CIA MI-6 operation. We know Maxwell's dad ran it for the Mossad in MI-6. We know about all the stuff. My God, I was 30 years ago with Ted gunners exposing giant industrial CIA child kidnapping rings with snuff films and devil worship. Oh, nobody wants to talk about that. Or the Franklin cover up back when Republicans were involved in this stuff. Ain't no Donald Trump in that. With Larry King and the rest of them, I don't mean the Jewish talks or host of CNN, the black Larry King.

Wait, what? I'm sorry? What are we doing on all fronts there? You know, I've been the first person to air a BBC documentary that they fought like the devils and never air and I heard it in 1996 and you know what I got for it? It was called conspiracy of silence. You'd find out all the line out. I got death threaded and then five dudes attacked me in a parking lot and broke my nose.

Telling me to shut up. See, I get attacked in parking lots for exposing this decades ago. I know more about this than, and it's not about me. I'm sick of like seeing comments on my ex-feed. Why don't you talk about the USS Liberty? I've talked more about the USS Liberty and interviewed more people than anybody else. You know why?

Because most of the people are dead now so nobody can interview. See, I'm a real person. My name's Alex Jones. He's just like mad that people on Twitter don't put respect on his name. Yeah. And like it's just calm down, man.

Who cares? You're talking about something that didn't happen 30 years ago. Yeah. You didn't get beat up in a park. lot and if you did it was probably because you're an annoying racist probably wasn't because of airing conspiracy of silence nope and like i would just say that if alex if any of this shit was real why doesn't he get beat up in parking lots more man there are so many parking lots and so many

people who want to beat him up right and we're like it's not like he always traveled with bunch of armed guards. Right. Like when we saw him at the Sandy Hook case in Austin, he had like a flank of security, but that wasn't the case five years prior. Someone could have beat the shit out of him at that chicken restaurant

when everyone was just yelling at him. Yep. There are so many opportunities where he should have had his ass kicked if like anyone really wanted to whip his ass for his truth or whatever. If it is abundantly clear the lack of violence in the hearts of most men insofar as Alex Jones is still walking the earth without a black eye. Yep.

A constant black eye. A constant black eye on top of a black eye that he has to explain away because he was in two parking lots on the same day. Yeah. He really is kind of a good embodiment of like how not violent most people are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. So someone who is violent is his hero, Trump. Yep.

Very much so. and he's taking out his violence on Marjorie Taylor Green. Great. At this point. Good stuff. Because she has come out and said, hey, we should get that Epstein stuff released. I like having a president who's really willing to just be a piece of shit. You know, what are you going to say?

Well, then you got it. What are you going to say? The man is a real piece of shit. So at this point, Green hasn't retired. Yeah. She hasn't said I'm out. Right. But she has been like, hey, we got to release this.

stuff. Right. And then she put out some texts that she had sent Trump and they did not go well. And that's what pushed her over the edge to be like, you know, we got to fucking do this. And then Trump attacked her and called her Marjorie Taylor Brown. Ooh. Because grass

turns brown when it rots. Oh, man. He actually says that in a parenthesis after he says Marjorie Taylor Brown. Wish he were more clever though, you know? Like, but those two go hand in hand. If you're a true piece of shit, you aren't gifted with the ability to do good.

Right. You know? And in the political space, we didn't have, like, before 2015, you didn't have someone who's like, Little Marco. Yeah. This guy's sweaty or whatever. And, like, that was good enough. It's Cat Skills comedy because nobody had stand up yet, you know?

That's what you got first banana, second banana. Now, here's the problem. Yeah. Ron DeSanctimonious is good. Everyone's shit on that and that's good. Strong disagree. Strong disagree. Strong disagree.

Marjorie Taylor Brown is a huge whiff. That is the worst. But wrong to sanctimonious, that lives on in my heart. Anyway, she's been trying to get these files put out and Trump is attacking her. And Alex is like, oh boy. Now, this is a bridge to what we're going to cover when we come back. Trump making a big mistake, but I know what he's doing. He does this all the time.

And it's just what Trump does. He's a piece of shit. But MTG is a great lady, good friend of mine. And 90% of the time she's saying good stuff. Trump, just like me. But on the things she disagrees with, she comes out and criticizes that the administration is, of course, correct. And then the media cherry picks, the conferences, and says, she's attacking you, she says you're covering up, she says you're bad. He then believes that and says she's excommunicated. She's nuts. I'm done whether I've got a statement here

coming up after the break. But she's absolutely right. Don't cover it up. They're going to use the cover up to then claim you're there. The only thing to do is release it, even though it hurts a bunch of these big rich people that behind the scenes told you to make a deal with them. So there's so many background assumptions that are built into how Alex is talking about Trump attacking Marjor Taylor Green.

One is that Alex is totally fine with the idea of Trump making horrible attacks against a sitting member of Congress from his own party based on something someone else told him about what she said. In Alex's version, Trump is lashing out at her because someone else misconveyed what MTG was saying, and this length

to Trump calling her a traitor. Right. Just based on this behavior, Trump isn't fit to lead. No, no, no, that's the way guy I want. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. No, that guy sucks. Yeah, he does suck. He's a real piece of shit.

A second here is that Alex knows that he has to downplay the sincerity of MTG's convictions on the issue of exposing child sex traffickers. Because if she's treated like a sincere person, it reveals how deep Alex and Trump are in terms of being fine with a cover-up, as long as they can argue that the cover-up is better for their team. Her position on the Epstein Transparency Act is consistent with principle, and that contrast shows that Alex is not. And that's why he has to frame it in this way of like,

she's trying to get Trump to course correct. It's not a sincerity of belief. Yeah. I'm enjoying this. I think it's turning into the rake effect for me. I'm starting to enjoy, again, his many different ways of being like, she says that nice things 90% of the time. Now, 10% of the time he's a pedophile billionaire who's destroying the world, but sure.

And sometimes in that, those 10% of times you deserve a little bit. Sometimes you need some pushback. Yeah, but not that much. So the third background assumption here is that Alex has to know that the fact that Trump doesn't tweet all kinds of crazy shit about him is an indication that Alex and Infoors are irrelevant. When MTG has a criticism of Trump, it causes a shitstorm because she has the type of power that means something to Trump. There aren't Twitter meltdowns about weird stuff Alex says because all of it doesn't matter. Everyone who listens to InfoWars could turn on Trump tomorrow and it wouldn't change anything for Trump's relationship with the power that he has access to. The only way to really understand this is that Alex should see what's going on with MTG and it should scream at him that he's spineless and compromised on his core issues and that nothing he does matters in a way, anyway, to the people that he sold out for.

all he could have done to be valuable to these people is die. And it's kind of too late for that because Charlie Kirk is a way better martyr than Alex ever would have been. He's got no use to any of these people anymore. Roger is just going to treat him like shit. Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's easy to recognize when you're in the capture spiral. Because it happens for everybody, you know, that like, well,

I disagree with what my party's doing now, but, you know, that kind of concept and how that will always lead to a downward spiral of if I can take you for granted, I don't care about you. Right? Like, that's just how it works. If you will go along with this, then I know that whatever, like,

whatever words leading up to this and a little bit past that you have, are there without teeth? There's nothing here. I can just act with impunity. Yeah, there's a person. type that is obsessed with getting you and then once they have you, fuck off. Meaningless. You don't, you don't mean anything.

And that's, that's the entire capture spiral. You know, you get so much of that love bomb at first and then it's all gone. Sure. There's some, there's some aspect of that. But then I also think that there is a, for Alex, I think it's less of that. And it's more like he was really useful in 2016, even into, you know, maybe in the 20th. 20 time. I think during COVID, you know, any port in a storm, people can

use, you could use stuff like this. Right. But because he did all that stuff, he doesn't really have use to Trump anymore. Absolutely. He's the guy who did all that stuff. Yep. Best to not be that guy in the present. Yeah. Because that guy

only works in the past. Yeah. So here's the thing. What's that? With the Green and Trump. Trump's kind of acting a little bit guilty. What? Can you believe it? Yeah. This is unprecedented.

So Alex even can't really deny that he... Of course not! But he's not guilty like that. Of course not. She said, listen, you're making a mistake on Epstein. You need to do something. And Trump's gone crazy. So I'm just going to say it.

I have to. He's acting guilty. Now, the corporate media will take that out. He's acting guilty. Jones says he's acting guilty. Jones turns out. No, there's nothing there. I'm an expert on this.

All the victims. them saying nothing. All the evidence. So, so why? Because they came to him and said, sir, it's the new Russia gate. They've sprinkled it all with this info about you. And he's like, fine, move on. Is that what happened? Not good. Even if that is what happened, guilty.

Yeah. Sorry. I mean, wild. Yeah. I like the idea, though, that he's like, boy, this behavior smells bad. But not that bad. That's Alex. Jones in 2020. That's the thing. The media is going to take this out of context. Whatever I said he's looking guilty, they're going to be like, oh, Alex says he's looking

guilty. But I was only saying that he was looking guilty. Now he's looking not guilty. See, that's how it works. Come on. Jesus Christ. So we get to an ad and Alex is doing some sales. And I kept this.

Trying to get that green? Well, seaweed. Yeah. Oh. I think Shillogy might be green too. Okay. But Alex gets a little bit distracted. and this is the fifth flip blade we've had come in

and it's my personal favorite, and Scott's got some bigger ones that are great too. The only problem is 600. And I have a check, but I bet they're already sold out at theogsonsore.com. So a lot of supplements and things that sell out at theogslistore.com, they'll still be over at real auctionos.com because they hold back inventory there for that site,

and that is a critical place for those of you want to support the broadcast at realogshodes.com. So whether it's ultramethylene blue or there's the shillogy, the Irish Seamus. Yeah, there it is. HD shop. Look at that. That is a, ooh. And what I like about it is,

wait, what noise is that? It looks kind of like a black cockatoo. I know cockatoos are white, but look at it. It looks like a bird. Look, like it's got a little beak right there. But it also looks like a bird right here, that way too. See?

I really like it. I like it a lot. I lock it. I look it a lot. Sold. I'm going to buy this thing that looks like a bird. I feel, okay. If I'm up.

at 2 a.m. And I'm watching an infomercial. And they're doing a whole thing. And then all of a sudden they're like, we're going to bring on our knives guy, right? To sell these knives. We've only got an hour. These knives sell out always so fast.

And then the knife guy comes out and he's just like, oh, this one looks like a bird. But also, but look at it. It looks like a bird this way too. I just really like it. I just really like this knife. I think he's talking about seaweed or shillogy. I'm not sure.

I don't think he's even talking about the knife that looks like a bird. but either way I'm buying. So the other thing that I thought was interesting in there is he's saying that you should go to the real Alexjones.com as opposed to the Alexjones store.com. I was like, that's what he used to do in terms of the Alex Jones store and InfoWars store.

Right. And that was because he doesn't own one of them. Right. And I think this has to be, I have to believe that he gets a bigger cut from the real Alexjones.com. Sure. And Bigley gets more from the Alex Jones store.

Well, there's only one reason to push one way and the other the other way. Right, because it's all coming from the same thing. It's not like one sells out and the other still has stock. No. It's all the same shit. They don't keep them in different warehouses and yeah. No, it has to just be like a margin thing. And, uh, yeah.

I, I can't, I can't imagine a situation where having multiple businesses with your name and saying that you don't own them is going to go well in a bankruptcy situation. Yeah, especially one that has real in it. Yeah, that one's real tough. I mean, but you know, only in a court of law can something like that be meaningless. Yeah.

So you got to give it up to them. They know what they're doing. Your honor of the real Alex Jones story is fake. Oh, so you can't call things real now without them being real? What are you going to do next? Are you going to take away my right to say fire in a crowded theater?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So Alex, he thinks that Trump, there's a solution. Sure. Just go back in time. Well, maybe. And the only way you're ever going to get back in time is support Elon Musk. That makes sense.

Because he might make a time machine. That sounds true. Elon Musk came in. Mark Mitchell and other top pollsters confirm what I saw with the grassroots. Doge was super popular doing an amazing job. There was some vestiges of the Republican Party, blue blood. a corrupt establishment left, and they were successful at running Elon Musk out.

And you've seen things go downhill since then. I mean, Elon's ready to spend billions on U.S. elections, local elections, city, county, state, Senate elections, we need him. And now Trump's giving him an assay ahead he wanted and backed off some in ain't enough. And it's the same crap. I get Trump's got to be super. confident and just goes with his instincts, and that's good overall 90% of the time, but it's not some of the time.

And I've been proven around the Epstein stuff. So it's interesting because one of Alex's main problems with the U.S. federal government in the past is that the president wasn't really the president. They were a figurehead and they were theoretically in charge, but decisions were made by committee and all the expert advisors around the president were really the ones guiding the government. Right. These were the unelected bureaucrats who formed the permanent government or the deep

state. They were unaccountable to the public because they weren't voted into office and they had no ultimate loyalty to any political party or ideal since they knew that even with their side out of power, there's still money to be made somewhere in the government and in Washington. This is a huge selling point that Alex is used to excuse Trump's shittier behaviors. Sure, he may be a total asshole and he seems like he's freaking out of people on social media, but at least he's really in charge. We finally have an actual president, one who doesn't listen the whispers of all the globalists around him, one who doesn't care what the international community says.

For better or worse, he is the guy. The buck stops over there. That's the whole idea, to cut through all the red tape, to do everything. A strong man! A man who is strong! But now, it seems like Alex is saying that Trump should listen to unelected bureaucracy and billionaires whose money they need to win elections. Like a weak man.

It feels like it's a liability for Trump to be his own man and actually want to lead. he needs to let a committee lead. It just has to be a different kind of committee. And an unelected one. All of Alex's complaints about the elites and the unelected bureaucracy were never sincere. He never cared about the actual dynamics that these things imply and uphold. But they were very socially acceptable ways for him to attack the prevailing system without having to make it about what he actually cared about a lot, which is white Christian identity.

Yeah. He just wants a white Christian identity prioritizing, establishing. establishment. Yeah. You'd be totally fine with red tape and all that shit as long as he felt like white people had a special place in society. Yeah. And he could practice his weird Christianity without people telling him it's weird. Yeah. I mean, you know, I bet here's what I'll say, right? I bet if we did go back in time and talk to Alex before he was placed in a situation where he had to choose, he would absolutely say I will die for my beliefs in all of that shit. Right?

Yes. It was only when he was put to the test that it was truly revealed he's a callow piece of shit. Yes. Right? I mean, it's like it is hard to learn from that on a macro scale. But it does feel like there's something about if you haven't gone through that test and come out the other side, you shouldn't be trusted at all, you know? Yeah, or at least trust should be a slightly conditional thing. Sure.

You know, like there should be a, we'll see about this. Right, right, right, right. But I think that you can easily also take the wrong lesson from this, which is, little bit nihilistic and like think that oh everyone will fail that test and I don't believe that's true I agree I think that looking back on Alex's career he he talked a lot of good stuff in a lot of ways sure but he was pretty obviously exactly the type of person who would give up on yeah you know like a lot of the core principle absolutely uh if it meant maintaining some of these other things that are more visceral and emotional for him totally no I mean

I think that's the nihilistic point of view is not that there aren't any people who would pass the test. It's that none of those people will ever be in positions to validate it. Maybe. Maybe. That's the thing. People keep wanting the person who hasn't passed the test, you know? Because maybe they will give them more. I don't know.

Yeah, who knows. Who knows? I think that Alex is a real sad man. Yeah, that's definitely true. Real hollow piece of business. So he talks a bit more about the Marjorie Taylor Green situation. I'm sorry, Marjorie Taylor Brown. Nice.

It's growing on me. He says that what Trump is doing is bad. Great. And so, MTG's like, no, I think for all these women abused, we need to bring it out. I don't think Trump's in there, but I don't know what he's doing. And then she's now released the text messages that pissed Trump off. She's like, hey, the Clintons are in there, man. The deep steak, they did it.

You got to go after him. And he comes out and says, well, she's gone crazy. You know, she's crazy, MTG, and I'm going to support whoever primaries her. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. So this is as big as saying

you disavit our supporters that want Epstein investigated. Really? Yes. So not involved with Epstein any illegal, but now involved with the cover-up, now flipping out when they double-crossed you, the Democrats, so now you want them criminally investigated. Good. Good. Now you're on the right track. See? I told you.

So he's calling Thomas Massey of Kentucky and MTG of Georgia who are good Americans, real people who don't compromise like Ron Paul. Trump calls Massey the mini-mee of Senator Paul. That's ramp. The overall supports Trump, but hey, we're not a cult. This is wrong what you're doing here on some issues. And then Trump has all these people around him. Oh, yeah, get him, ostracize him, kick him out, primary him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's just like, Maga's gone crazy with Cash Patel using his girlfriend as the front, his law firm, FPI law firm, suing Carl Serra for the FBI whistleblower, who they said was a hero, now they hate him, and suing Elijah Schaefer. Getting a little distracted here. But the step that Alex can't make is that Trump is making all of this happen. He appointed Kosh Patel a known lunatic to be the FBI director because he knew that it would cause, chaos and make law enforcement targeting the higher class criminals a joke. He could fire him at any point if Kosh's official or personal issues become a problem for Trump,

and he hasn't yet. And there aren't people forcing to threaten, forcing Trump to threaten to support primary challenges against Massey and MTG. He's doing that because that's how he acts. He threatens enemies, and Massey and Green have made themselves his enemy by not just dropping the Epstein shit. Yep. The only refuge Alex has left to just,

justify any of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is to deflect and pretend that it's someone else's fault. He's just calling MTG a traitor because someone else told him a warped version of what she said. He's just threatening to help primary the Republicans who made the Epstein Transparency Act happen because other people are telling him too. Alex knows that the only correct position is to burn Trump and get off this sinking ship, but for whatever reason he can't do that. So he's trying to create the impression that he's being critical of Trump by leveling up very shallow criticisms against him,

blaming other people for Trump's actions, and then saying that people shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is a genre of criticism that is actually support in disguise. It's a deflectionary criticism that is meant to make you forget

why you're mad. I mean, it's essentially the idea of controlled opposition within, you know, that kind of criticism is like, oh, see, look, we can disagree. Now, admittedly, at the end of the day, my point is I will do and say anything it takes

to keep this fan of power. Right. And the only way that I can give the appearance of like sort of peaceful disagreement is by making an entirely different point than has anything to do with what we're actually talking about. Yeah. We're talking about Trump fucking

blowing up Marjorie Taylor Green because she wouldn't stop it with the Epstein stuff. I mean, here's what boggles my mind, because it makes me think that people can't think, right? It feels like a lot of people are like, ah, now that he's president, he'll change his behavior when it's like, why? His behavior made him the president of the United States. That suggests that it's usually pretty useful as a tool if it makes you the president of the United States. So why in God's name would I do something different like you? not the president of the United States.

Yeah, loser. Right? Yeah. Like, how does that not make sense to people? Of course he's going to burn you. He's good at that. Right. And it's a strategy that's effective and he's used his whole life.

Right. And Alex even understands this. I mean, listen to him, describe his tactics. And now doing this to MTG. And I know Trump's tactics. He'll be mean to somebody for a while and then they course correct. He's nice to him. She ain't going to course correct to him.

She doesn't want to be a darling on Bill Maher in the view. When she went on Bill Maher in the View, she said, I love Trump. Overall, he's great. I just want to do better on these policies I'm trying to help him. You call her nutty, you call her crazy, you do all that. No. No, what you're doing is destructive. What you're doing is wrong.

And I'll defend you all day when you're right, just like I just did for two hours. But I need you to succeed, big guy. And so you're going to get no apologies for me. If you don't like what Massey's doing or she's doing some things, just leave it alone. Just shut up. Don't be in the, like, it's just the cover-up thing. Yep. Don't shut, shut up.

But what Alex is describing about Trump's tactics is just bullying. Yeah. And he's correctly assessing that pretty much everyone in his political movement is vulnerable to being bullied. Yep, which is why this has worked. But MTG is a not. Dweeps like Ted Cruz and Mike Johnson, they're the kind of figures who you can give them a good smack when they get out of line. and they'll be right back to calling you, sir. You bet.

But it is clear that Marjorie Taylor Green is not in for that right now. Yeah. She may be around other issues, but this one, it's not going to happen. Yeah, I mean, the thing about it is at the end of the day, these people are going to fall in line. So if Marjorie Taylor shitface falls out of line, who fucking cares? somebody who is going to fall in line will just take her place. Sure.

And it doesn't matter, right? Well, yeah, I guess someone who will go along will come along. Yeah. Or a Democrat could win her seat. Sure. Which seems unlikely. Probably. But like, you know, whatever is going to happen is going to happen.

And that's why I think that, like, her decision to not allow herself to be bullied is good for her brand. Her personal brand. It's the right decision to make. make. Sure. Like in terms of all of this. There's no way you're going to fight back and unseat the entire bully worshipping side of the government.

Well, and that's the only way to negotiate herself to a higher position is to prove that unlike these other guys, she's willing to step away from the table. Because, again, the other people at the end of the day have no negotiating position. You're going to fall in line. It's like back in the day, Cody Rhodes, son of Dusty Rhodes, was working. at WWE. Yep. He was made to be Stardust,

a crazy space character. Sure. And he said, I'm out of here. He left the company, made a name for himself on the Indies. Yep.

And then his power grew. Now you've got bargaining. Exactly. Marjorie Taylor Green needs to become Stardust. I agree with that. Yes. Because then she will definitely

not be brown. I'd like to see her do a match. with Dustin Rhodes. Okay. I like to see her. She's wiry though. She looks like she doesn't have much,

but she's got long limbs. She's got a long reach and it feels like she's got some forearm muscles, you know? I bet she could do some damage. Sure. Her ground game is probably shit. Well, I mean, look.

What do you, do you think she's a high flyer? She's going to do a Hurricane Ron. I think she's a top rope lady. I think that's what we're. Shooting star press? Absolutely. So,

Alex, like, I think that there is a desire to be on Marjorie Taylor Green's side. Sure. But Alex is really too afraid. Of course. He can't really make it work. And he makes a big mistake. And that is he starts reading the texts that she released. Oh, no.

So she put up, you know, these text messages and said, this is when he really got pissed. Check the flight logs of Epstein plane. Bill Clinton on there like 26 times. Hillary, too. For many of us, release the Epstein files, has always been for the women who are victims. She said the same thing on air of Jeffrey Epstein, but also because we believe that Democrat bad guys that the Clintons will involve with him.

What happened there sounds a lot like sketchier than it is. He just tripped up on the word entangled. Sure. Because it was split between two lines and the text message. All right. And so he just got confused. Gotcha. Epstein was a spider that wove the web of the deep state.

Lean into it. In every single interview I have done, I have defended President Trump. I've said over and over again, the women say he did nothing wrong, and their attorney says he's the only one who helped. The Democrats had four years to release the files, but did nothing. Stop ignoring the women. Many of them literally voted for Trump because, and to say so publicly. Yeah, like, why would you do this and hurt yourself in the country?

Why would you do something like this? It's just terrible, Trump. Lightweight congresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Green, Green grass turns brown when it's to rot, betrayed the entire Republican Party when she turned left, performed poorly on the pathetic view, and became the rhino that we all know she's always was. But not Lindsey Graham. Just another fake politician. Why do they have JD Vance in the New South Park having sex with Trump?

He's like a baby too. It's like pedophilic. Because they're scared of ants. What? Why didn't the South Park do one with Trump and Lindsay, Graham. Instead of Satan getting pregnant from Trump, Lindsay Graham is going to have the anti-cress for Trump. That's a good note. Oh, see, South Park doesn't want to attack Lindsey Graham. So as Alex is cold reading these texts and Trump's response, he's kind of realizing on air that this is way worse than he thought. He got a basic

storyline in place that he felt that like he could sell based on general vibes, but he forgot to check the primary sources before getting on air. Forgot is a very generous term. No, because I think he sounds a little surprised. There really isn't a way to see MTG's actions and Trump's response and not think, wow, that's a strange response for an innocent person to have. If Trump's not hiding something really bad, his actions seem pretty weird. Alex made a mistake by reading this stuff. And in the moment, he tries to save the ship by complaining about Lindsay Graham and South Park. Sure. I think that Lindsay Graham isn't all that relevant right now, just big picture. So a broad satirical comedy show doesn't really have a place for him in the story.

Yeah. J.D. Vance isn't really a baby on the show. He's very clearly tattoo from Fantasy Island. And some of the baby imagery that Alex is alluding to is because he's really short and Trump wears a diaper in their loves. Right. Right, right. Gotcha.

Either way, what's happening on Alex's show right there is that he's realized that the information he's presented requires him to have a particular stance and that he cannot have that stance. The stance he needs to have is empty. is just and righteous as a voice fighting against the sex traffickers in the globalist cabal, and Trump is clearly attacking her for pursuing that, which can only mean that Trump is on the side of the sex traffickers in the cabal. Alex cannot have this position, so he chooses a distraction path. Trump called MTG a rhino, so he riffs on Lindsey Graham being a rhino, not Marjorie Taylor Green.

This is a horrible distraction path because it reminds people that Trump is currently being very nice to Lindsay Graham and not calling him a rhino, whereas he is attacking MTG and calling her that. Alex instinctually understands that this path goes in a bad direction and makes Trump look worse, so he starts rambling about South Park and how they're not making fun of Lindsey Graham because the globalists aren't

afraid of him the same way they are of Vance. And so he continues on this riff hoping to distract you from where it started. Oh, see, South Park doesn't want to attack Lindsey Graham. President Trump, have you in impregnated Lindsey Graham with the antichrist. President Trump, have you been with Lindsey Graham in the

in the Lincoln bedroom? Is he like Rosemary's baby, chest dating the antichrist right now? Inquiring minds want to know, President Trump. Are you secretly in a relationship with Lindsey Graham? That's a joke, folks. Fuck off. Corporate media will take it and run with it.

That's fun. Fuck you. My point is, is politically, Trump is in bed with a goblin. My famous rant, pull up Alex Jones, rant in bed with the goblin. gobble. They made music videos out of everything. Pull up Alex Jones, Goblin Music Video. And I

explain as a Mordor analogy, we don't expect Trump going into Mordor to not get some goblin blood and slop and vomit on him while he's cutting him up. What? We don't want to catch him kissing a goblin or catch him in bed with a goblin. And in the case of Lindsay Graham, we have caught President Trump politically in bed with a goblin. And his bad as it is, it may be Trump that's pregnant with the antichrist, sired by Lindsey Graham. In Trump's colon, right now may be growing the antichrist a combination of Trump and Lindsey Graham and the neocons. In fact, this is a polyamory. So just to be clear, to anybody who's not watching the current season of South Park,

A large part of the plot is that Donald Trump is dating Satan. Sure. And he has impregnated Satan. He's going to give birth to the Antichrist. And J.D. Vance is trying to get an abortion to happen to stop the antichrist from being born. Right. And J.D. Vance and Trump fucked. Right.

We're going with a new kind of ironic, sincere obviousness that is maybe not going to work very well. Sure. But I'm just saying, like, if you hear this. this stuff and you haven't watched those episodes, that makes no sense. What Alex is saying makes no sense. That's fair. The idea of him having the Antichrist's baby in his colon and all that. That is fair.

So keep in mind, this whole thing, this conversation, it started with Alex reading texts that Marjorie Taylor Green sent to Trump and the beginning of Trump's response to her. The topic that's on the table is Trump calling Marjorie Taylor Green a traitor because you wouldn't leave the Epstein stuff alone. And because Alex has realized that this is an unspinnable situation, he's decided to delve into a completely unrelated gripe about Lindsey Graham, full of distractions like people making songs about his famous goblin rant. Through this diversion, Alex feels like he's come to a conclusion that seems like it's criticizing Trump. Right. He's been caught in bed with a goblin in the form of Lindsey Graham,

which is supposed to be the line that Alex can't accept him crossing. Sure. But this is why it's important with a bullshit artist like Alex to keep. track of what he's saying. He's finding this negative thing to say about Trump because it's really a negative thing about somebody else. It's an attack on Graham and Trump's only crime is associating with him. Trump can correct this by being mean to Lindsey Graham and then Alex's audience should be

fully placated. Done and done. It's meaningless criticism. Conversely, the thing Alex is trying to distract from is that he accidentally made it way too clear on air that Trump is acting like someone personally invested in covering up the He's acting guilty and not in the way Alex wants to pretend. So even if he has to do this very funny riff about Trump impregnating Lindsey Graham, that's preferable to the audience remembering what topic we're actually discussing.

Yeah. Because it started really bad and entered unsavable territory. Yeah. This is all distraction and deflection. Yeah. I mean, I get it. To a, because, I mean, to a certain extent, I think a lot of people really, really want distraction from this kind of thing because it's impossible not to look at the government

as it stands filled with both parties protecting Epstein's friends, you know, and not be like, well, if powerful people on all party sides in every aspect of government are like, we don't want everybody to know what we've done, that's pretty disillusioning as far as who should be in government. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I don't know what to say, but yep.

Yep. What you're going to do? What I am going to do is I am going to let Alex help us understand. Gotcha. That's what I would be nice. Yeah, let's see. Let's see where he goes. My point is politically, Trump is doing what the neocons are doing, going after his own party for being true and trying to keep on straight and narrow.

And that's wrong. We take you now live to the year 2016. as the president-elect Trump is about to take office. We said, we don't expect you to not get dirty, but just don't kiss goblins. And don't. Get in bed with a goblin. I don't want to see him kissing goblins.

Well, you know this is a serious criticism. Goblins, goblins. Yep. Nice. I would like it. I would like it. Because here's what I think. I think that would.

open up goblin relations in a way that we haven't seen since Nixon and China. You know, like, goblins aren't inherently evil. They live in the mountains. They kind of keep to themselves. And if you show up, maybe they eat you. But it's their home. If they come to your home, they're not going to eat you. Right.

They might eat you. Stand your ground. Right, right, right. Eat your ground laws, you know. Here's a couple of things. Yeah. Juan goblins aren't real. Sure.

If they were, I would agree with you. Yeah, okay. Well, that's nice. Thank you. I also, because I've listened to this stupid fucking show for a long time, I've heard about 50 times Alex has said, already's kissing a goblin this time. He keeps doing this and pretending that Trump isn't constantly doing goblin stuff.

Yeah. And I think goblins have a queen, so that's fairly progressive. They don't exist. Right. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. Neither does the sword that, lights up when they're around.

Shit. I was going to, I was headed there next, man. Sorry. What about the spider? Yeah, the spider's real. Okay, good. Too real. Too real.

Yeah. And by that, I mean, he'll just tell you truth. Yeah. That, like, you don't want to hear. Oh, no. He's too real. Oh, shit about your family and stuff that, yeah. Oh, your mom was actually your sister.

You're like, no! Right, right, yeah, yeah. But even stuff like, your mom doesn't have your best interests at heart. Just regular stuff. You know. You know it's true. You know it's true. You know it's true.

There's no looking away from the truth, and you don't necessarily want to know it. Yeah. Sometimes you need to lie to yourself to get through the day. And that's why you got to avoid that cave. You got to avoid that fucking spider. Yeah. What a dick. So Alex plays a bit of the South Park episode.

Sure. Why not? Why fucking not? Fox News is live at the White House. Yeah. Hey. So what's happened in the episode is that Peter Thiel has bugged the White House. Sure.

And so he has video like surveillance. videos of everything. Right. So he has leaked video of Trump and Vance fucking. Right. And also the B plot of this episode is that there's a war going on between the boys and girls at the school. Sure.

Because of deep fake AI videos that they can make of each other. Right. That makes sense. So this footage of the two of them fucking has been released and Fox News is being forced to cover that sex video. Uh-oh. Definitely a disheartening news here. Why the president would do this to Satan with a baby on the way?

We don't know. If there's anyone's guess why... Sorry, sorry, we got to interrupt you there. We just got word that the president is calling in to Fox and Friends. Are you there, sir? That's enough. I mean, this is all they got, folks. But in reality, spiritually,

he's out of bed with MG more and more than the American people and he's in bed with Benjamin Nettiaho and Lizzie Graham So in the episode Trump calls into the Fox and Friends and just tells them that it's fake and the joke of it is that they're all really sad

reporting on this video and then he says it's fake and then it totally changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Everyone just goes fully along with him just saying it's fake. Yep. And so it's kind of funny because that's like what Alex does. Right. And he's probably

pretty fucking aware of that. Yeah. Yeah. But that's all they got. This is all they got is... That's a pretty funny way of I... Okay. I would say this. Previous This is all they gots have included Tansuit, right?

This is all they got is the president is fucking Satan and other topical things. No, well, it's less about him fucking Satan. It's more about him cheating on Satan with J.D. Vance. Right, right, right. While there's a baby on the way.

That's a little bit better. Not everybody knows that it's the Antichrist. A lot of the American public just thinks it's a baby. Sure. And they're very excited. Well, I mean, they would be. That's kind of how the antichrist would work. He wouldn't, he wouldn't be like, we all wouldn't be like, ah, shit, we caught him, you know?

He's got to be pretty cool. Yeah, so I don't know. I get the, I get the, idea of Alex not fully enjoying South Park. And I think that he has like some reason from much earlier in his career to think that those guys would be cool with him. Yeah. Because I think they would have been cool with him. Right. In like 2005, 2006. I think who he pretended to be back then. Right. Was in line with what the South Park guys were when they were younger. Right. When all three of them were pretending to be libertarians a word they didn't really understand at the time.

And now here we are. And the two of them have grown up and matured in some strange ways and Alex has become a piece of shit. Oh well. Yeah. So I'm going to give you a choice. All right. There's a clip.

No. Oh, okay. Sorry. There is a clip about a bioweapon. Okay. It's two minutes long. Do you want to hear it? you can or not is the bio weapon going to be revealed to be a dick it rhymes with dick

now i have to play it because i said something about rhyming now here is the scientists remember the bioethicists they teach us the ethics of science and medical stuff matthew low called for the bioengineering of humans to make them allergic to meat in exactly the manner caused by the lone star tick He said this should be done to save the planet from climate change because cows are bad because they fart methane, you fart methane, and they've also said in public service announcements in the UK and Europe, we need to ban your dog and cat because they're bad too. So it's not just natural gas and oil they want to get rid of, it's everything,

it's total control, teaching you carbon-based life is bad. And so now it's here. And oh, we better not eat beef. Oh, God, you get bit by this tick, you all die, and who knows how they'll get this into it. It's not just a tick. They can fly over and spray this on you. and then now you have this autoimmune response

that gets you violently ill or kills you, and now you can't eat beef. You can see the plan, it's a bioweapon attack, and why is Bill Gates still not in prison? Sure. So here he is bragging about the plan, and now it's here. So I'll give two examples. So one is that people eat too much meat, right?

And if they were to cut down on their consumption on meat, then it would actually really help the planet. But people are not willing to give up meat. You know, some people will be willing to, but other people, they may be willing to, but they sort of, they have a weakness of will. They say, wow, this steak is just too juicy. I can't do it. I'm one of those, by the way. So, you know, but so here's a thought, right?

So it turns out that we know a lot about, so we have these intolerance to, so I, for example, I have milk intolerance. And there, some people are intolerant to crayfish. So possibly we can use human engineering to, to make it the case that we're intolerant to certain kinds of meat, to certain kinds of bovine proteins. And there's actually analogs of this in life. There's this thing called the Long Star Tick, where if it bites you,

you'll become allergic to meat. I can sort of describe the mechanism. So that's something that we can do through human engineering. We can kind of possibly address really big world problems through human engineering. Yeah, the same guy says they can genetically engineer babies to make us smaller so we don't eat as much. maybe we can live a shoebox these guys are on a total

absolute control freak operation we want tiny people we want shoebox people I mean listen I normally I never uh

am against pushing the limits of bio-fucking around with people right but this is the worst idea and if this guy is a bioethicist he should be shot into the sun What are you talking about?

Well, I think he's discussing a possibility for people who would like to give up meat. Sure. But are tempted and would want to give themselves some kind of like incentive not to eat. It's still all within the realm of choice. Right. Not like forcing people to become allergic to meat. I'm sure that they would never be done. Right.

But I'm also. I'm sure that chemically they would never just castrate people without their knowledge. On a wide scale? They would never. I guess wide is relative. Bummer, bummer! Ooh! Yeah.

But I'm more worried about that other thing. Sure. About tiny people. See, that's the thing. I go the opposite. I love tiny people. I'm all four tiny people. Yeah, that's great.

Okay. Well, I was digging into it. Okay. And these ideas, they go back away. Oh, yeah? There was a little old. lady who lived in a shoe. Ooh.

And the plan's been there the whole time. It has been there the whole time. Ever since that piece of, I don't know where that comes from. Folklore? I believe it's a just child's nursery rhyme.

Right. Yeah. Right. Predictive programming. Right, right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. In order to give, they have to give consent because they didn't argue with the nursery rhyme. All right. Here's another one.

This is, this is bullshit, right? We have been trained since children to believe that an authority figure falling from a great height should be put back together again. Bullshit. That egg should be fucking dead. I hate this putting shit back together again.

Well, no, hold on now. What was Humpty Dumpty's role? Because I don't know if he was an authority figure. It was the king's men who tried to put him back together again. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I just assumed that the king's men wouldn't just be like putting eggs. back together all the time that he was the king right but i mean he's a sentient egg right that's what i didn't want him to be king in the first place he's not a king he's not a king he's not a sentient egg king

i'm saying that the king had one sentient egg in his kingdom and that's why he put special attention i don't see it back to listen i get where you're coming from but from a from a standpoint of uh training children it's i think it's the wrong message do you think Humpty Dumpty was like a Duke. Oh, man. See, now I struggle. I would say that it's harder to rhyme Duke, so I doubt it.

Puk. Cuk. That doesn't, none of those seem like they're fit for a nursery rhyme. Cucumber, little kuk. You're going to say kuk. No. Stanned by kuk. What's Newk gonna do in your nursery rite?

Oh, well, I mean. You could be talking about a microwave. Yeah, that's fair. I think we're still talking about the egg, though. Mm-hmm. Do you want to microwave the egg? I don't think you can. Can you microwave the egg?

You can. You can. I saw a product on an infomercial that explains. Is it a knife that looks like a bird? Yes. Okay. So we have one last clip here. And it's Alex, like, the one thing that I want to really stress about his response,

particularly to everything in the Epstein shit, but with Marjorie Taylor Green, is like this is all deflectionary. Trump can't take any responsibility for any of the things that are happening. So Alex tries to be like, I guess the Trump administration is fucking us, but not Trump. Wild. And so now you got Patel going after Manga. You've got Trump purging MTC. This is a horrible turn of events.

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Yeah. So, I mean, like, if populace, rises and falls with or without Trump, then y'all need to get rid of him. I mean, come on. This is very... I mean, it's just rising to the level of pure silliness.

Just the, like, at what point is it even possible to do this anymore? Like, he's doing everything. He's been escalating over the time that we've been watching this. He's slowly been more and more willing to just be like, yes, it's obvious. Trump's doing a cover up. But, but, you know, like he's been doing that. And it's like, at what point can you literally not do that anymore? I think it's, I think everyone's different.

You know, like. I agree. But I wonder is, is there a universal bottom? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. Okay. I would, I would, I would say that there will be a point.

at which anyone who tries to walk across ice will fall. Will fall. Okay. Like, it's not going to be every time you walk across ice. But if you keep walking on ice, eventually you're going to fall through that ice. Especially if a lot of people walk on the same ice. Right. And if it's bad ice.

Yeah. If it's Trump ice. Yeah. Shit ice. Trump branded ice. I think that one of the reasons that I think it is inevitable is that Alex is doing this wrong. Sure.

There's a way to do this, but he has to have never admitted that Trump was in on the cover up. Yeah. Once he made that step that, oh, the billionaires came to him and asked him to do this. And so he got in on the cover up and now it's blowing up in his face. Right. Once he conceded that kind of a point, everything else is like this bizarre, spiraling, idiot, like rationalization of things. Yeah. And then every other person who's acting in ways that they should.

should, like Nick Fuentes, like Marjorie Taylor Green, all of these people existing just highlight how stupid Alex is. Yeah. And so that, I think, is the, like, push and pole tension that is going to cause the break. Yeah. But if he would have just, you know, behaved a little bit differently, gas lit a little bit harder at the right place. Yeah.

I think that he'd have a thicker ice to walk on. Yeah. Yeah. There is that thing. where there's a certain type of person that never takes responsibility for anything. Trump. You know, like exactly. You know, it's always somebody else's fault.

It's always somebody else did something. It's always somebody else. Even when it's my fault, it's only because of them. So it's not even me. If they weren't there, I wouldn't have done it, right? I don't have to take responsibility for that. And as long as you don't have to take responsibility for it, you can do whatever you want, right? Because it's everybody else's fault.

But once you have one thing that you do. it, it all falls apart from there. Yeah. Because that is, because a doing of a thing leads to another doing leads to another doing. And the problem of this for Alex is that he has done a thing in like, okay, whether or not Trump agreed to be part of this cover up, Alex has done a thing. Yep. Which is not leave. Yep.

That is not his breaking point. And that is an active decision on his part that I'm sure he wants to disguise as a passive decision. Totally. But it's not. Nope. And, yeah. that requires him to do other things and do other things. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. Once you do something, then, you know, like once Trump was, once Trump really was like, hey, fuck all you people who are still looking for Epstein, then it's like, it's no longer you can blame other people. He said, fuck all of you. Mm-hmm. He did that.

So everything that did follows from that point, you know, every action follows from that point. You know, every action follows from that point. You can't blame somebody else. Somebody else didn't write the. tweet, you know? Right. And, and, uh, like, you should conceivably expect similar kinds of things to be done by him in the future. Every time. As long as he can. Yeah. Once he can't, maybe he won't. Right. But as long as he can, he's going to keep doing that kind of shit. It's made him the president. And you have nothing to offer in terms of an incentive to get him to stop. Yeah. Alex can yell all he wants. He could do all this.

He could do whatever dumb shit he wants. He could even say, hey, Trump, you're the best. Please, sir. Could you please just not do anything? Yeah. Could you please shut up about this cover-up? That wouldn't do anything. Nope.

He could kill Roger and it wouldn't do anything. Yep. He's just, he's... It is a pure lack of understanding that it's just him in his audience now. Yep. He just doesn't get that. Which is freeing. It should be freeing.

It's freeing for us. It's just us. They don't even, he doesn't even talk about us. It's just us. audience listening to us. There's nobody else involved. Yeah, he talks to other, he talks and shit about other podcasters, but not us. We're not real. I think that he should lean into that freedom.

Yeah. But he doesn't. Nope. And it's sad. Freedom is a fear. Yeah. We'll see, we'll see when this ice cracks, when it breaks, when it breaks, whatever. Yep.

Or, hey, you know what? Maybe the Duke boy will get out of it. Maybe that General Lee can slide on it. Maybe you put some skis on the general lee. and it goes right across the ice real smooth. Yeah, and we'll find out how it goes. Indeed. But until then, next installment, we have a website.

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