Knowledge Fight - 1103 Live In Portland

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan come to you live from the Aladdin Theater in Portland to present a music festival inspired episode of the podcast.

Rettler, Rettler, Rettler, Rattelder, Rattel, Rattel, RELder, RELCHIE N-N-N-N-K-K-K-K-K-K-LIN. Portland. Welcome to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. We are a couple of dudes who like to go around to less rainy cities today. Hang out. Talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan. You need Jordan? Dan. Jordan. I have a quick. question for you. How are you doing? What's up? What's your bright spot today, buddy? Why don't you go first? Why don't I go first? Oh my God, it's December. It's December. It's December and as is tradition you go first in the bright spots in December. Well, I mean, if I have to give a bright

spot, obviously I'm going to lean in hard to being the pathetic wife guy I am. Nice. And I will let I will let all of you know that today my beautiful, perfect wife picked up our three dogs. and brought them home and then took care of them and then took them outside altogether and didn't do a great job, so I'm needed. I'm needed. So that's my bright spot. My bright spot is everybody's happy,

but not without me! This is an empowered wife guy. It is a way of looking at things, for sure. That's great. Absolutely. How about you? My bright spot, as is tradition, Because it is December.

Yeah. It is time to check in with the cheese Advent calendar. Dan does like cheese. Dan likes cheese. I also forgot to get the name of the person who sent that in, but thank you to them. As is our one.

Thank you very much, Tomb of the Unknown Person. Yeah. So anybody who was here at our last show last night will know that I made a critical blunder on this travel. and that is that I forgot my cheeses at home. Yes. He did.

He did. He did. I made a huge deal out of how there would be cheese here at the live shows. And then on the way to the airport, I realized, fucking forgot the cheese. I don't appreciate your attitude. We could have lied to you. We could have lied to you. This is a man in a spirit of openness and honesty coming to you and you're giving him booze.

How dare you? I deserve a little bit of it and I'll accept a few hisses and a few booze here and there. Did you guys go to Boston too? Jesus. The rain brought out the snakes. So here's the good news.

The good news. As I left these cheeses at home, it doesn't matter. Because the Aldi Advent calendar would have been repeat cheeses for these shows. And that's boring as shit. It is.

So we got to Portland and we got some new cheeses. And tonight, I've got a red apple smoked mozzarella. Ooh. Have you ever wondered what it is we're all doing here? All of you just went, ooh, fuck you. You're all insane. We're all insane.

But that's fine. Keep going. And so now here comes the part of the show where Jordan Vamps, and I open this and take a big bite of mozzarella. The amount of time it's going to take. take him to open it is going to really open things up for me. But here's what's going to happen, right? I'm going to

use this time for good, because last night we couldn't record the show. It was a real bummer. For whatever reasons, let's not say that they're entirely my fault. Let's blame it on the tour manager. Who is me? So let's do

that. So today, I went and I got a recorder that could work tonight. But oh, that's too big a bite. that's too big a bite that's way too big a bite don't no don't no no no not on the mic not on the mic not on the mic

so here's what's great about this right because this is a recording situation when I give this shout out to platinum records lights and sound the guy who helped me was fucking amazing he got me everything he took care of me he gave me a nice deal he did the whole thing right

and this will be a great piece of advertising if it fucking works. I'm still grateful if he doesn't, but no one will ever know. You took the opportunity while my mouth was full of cheese to do an ad. I did a whole thing.

I did a whole thing. Every time I come here with nothing, he's like, ah, Jordan never prepares bits, and then I prepare something, and now I'm an asshole. I, uh, nah. Yeah, that's me up. I just am regretting everything.

About the cheese or life or the show? Taking the bite. That was a bad bite. That was a big bite. And now there's nothing I can really do with the rest of that. I'm not going to throw open matzo. No.

No. No. No, this would be illegal. I could really hurt somebody with this. I could really fucking hurt somebody. I give it. You don't want it. You don't want it.

It's open. So, yeah, I give that a be. That was fine. The open food capital of the world. In case you get sick from this, the performers have no liability. It's not, that's not permission. This is Portland.

That's not permission to do whatever you want. I think it often means. So he stops breathing if you squeeze hard enough. This is Portland. Them's the rules here So Jordan today we're here Not just to eat cheese But also because we have an episode to do

Indeed And there are people here Yeah Inexplicably And so I would like to open the proceedings By asking you about what kind of Relationship you have with music festivals I mean open

First off I've been to many And we've enjoyed each other's pleasantly and... But you're not committed. Some of them I don't speak to anymore. I will say that Jane's addiction is no longer a friend of mine.

Okay. You got a falling out? Yeah, absolutely. Did you go to any, like, hippie jam band type of festivals? My wife used to go to summer camp all the time. She used to go to summer camp regularly. Ooh, to the four people who know what that is. There was half of an applause. Yeah, yeah. Summer camp is like a...

It's like the Boneroo for shitty Midwestern people. in Chilli Coffee, Illinois. Yeah. So you've heard of it. Oh, surprising. Yeah, it's, uh, just imagine, uh, just, like, hazy smoke and everyone's dirty. And one time, one time, one time, one time, one time, run the jewels was there and everybody was like, well, now we have a black friend. That translates.

Now we're all on the same page. Gotcha. Good. So, Jordan. August 15th, 1969. Mm-hmm. 5.07 p.m. Richie Havens takes the stage

on a field in New York, kicking off the most culturally defining rock and roll festival of the modern era. It was supposed to be Sweetwater that opened the show, but they were late, so Havens got to break in Woodstock. He got to break it open. Sure. Over three days,

you had bands like the band and the Who, changing the world with music. On August 17th, are we doing a Woodstock recap? Yes. Okay, now I'm in. I just wanted to be clear, Ken Burns. This is going to be that long.

Okay, no, I'm strapped in. On August 17th, Jimmy Hendricks closed the festival. And his performance of the Star-Spangled Banner as stood as an enduring image in U.S. political history. Fun fact, duop throwback act Shana performed just before Jimmy Hendricks, which had to be a crazy vibe shift.

Yeah Sean N-N-N-A opened and closed their set with their hit Get a Job but because they're going back to the well and doing the same song again their actual closer

Their actual closing song was a cover of Gene Chandler's absurd Duke of Earl Shawna-N-N-A did a cover of Duke Duke Duke Duke Duke Duke of Duke Duke of Earl Yeah.

Ha, ha, ha. That's about... That's about how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. So they did that at Woodstock. Every time you think, oh, I bet those people were cool.

Remember that. Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Earl. So people did drugs and they fucked in the mud. Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Earl. Listen to Sean. On the other, Duke of Earl. Oh, yeah, I can see stars. Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke of Earl.

But then it was over. You know? And it wouldn't be long after it ended until folks started to ask, could we do that again? Smash cut to May 1970. The Portland Oregonian announces that the American Legion Convention

would be taking place in the South Park Blocks neighborhood of Portland in September, and President Richard Nixon would be the special guest. It's about time somebody took it to Nixon. You guys are on the right side. of history.

Yeah. Protests against the Vietnam war were at an all-time high, and Portland's a city with a revolutionary protest in our legacy. Hell yeah. The powers that be,

including Oregon Governor Tom McCall, were pretty worried about how Nixon coming to speak at this event was going to be a lightning rod for near-do-wells. The FBI warned that anti-war groups were already planning elaborate disruptions for the convention,

and hysteria about violence was growing. The fear was mostly centered around a group called the People's Army Jamboree. It's a cool name. Squares back then, imagine them to be a roving gang of violent hippies who were going to arrive in Portland and burn the city down. 20 years later, Reagan did smuggle guns to them, though.

That's how crazy it is. Right? They started out real jamboree cool, and then their Iran-Contra cool. So, you know, it changes. Things change. They were kind of like, in a lot of public mind, they were kind of how we treat Antifa now. Except the People's Army jamberie did exist as an organized entity.

Right, right. And they had an infrastructure. Right. Funny story, that infrastructure was facilitated and ultimately destroyed by a $10,000 donation from the heir to the Bluebell Potato Chip Company, which allowed them to get rent an office, but it also led to huge infighting about who got the chip money. Money is the root of all evil, specifically potato chip money. So the jamboree wanted a permit to hold a week-long encampment in Washington Park. And the city was like, fuck no. The city commissioner held the position that they weren't going to be allowed to gather in any public space.

And they better just go find somewhere to rent. So, so essentially, we're John Lithgow. And this is footloose. No dancing. No jamborees. No. No. No.

Okay. So one of the problems that the People's Army jamboree had was a lack of message discipline. I mean, a jamboree is by definition on discipline. Nobody's ever been like, oh, this disciplined jamboree. This is a rigid jammerie. No, yeah, no. This is a very structured jamboree. Yeah.

It was a big tense situation in the hippie scene at the time. On the one hand, you had the resolutely political people who were focused on getting a permit to protest the American Legion Convention featuring Richard Nixon. On the other hand, you had a bunch of other folks who were out there just trying to have fun and get weird. Well. Portland poet and performance artist Peter Fornara, who's a lot of, listed as the office manager for the jamboree on their protest permit he was he was the office manager for a jamboree thanks to the chip money

who's the HR rep for the jamboree yeah so he was contacted by the media and asked about a rumor that the jamboree was bringing in 25,000 hippies from around the country to protest well you're gonna need an office manager for that many hippies that's a lot of admin yeah now I'm no no I'm right. The bureaucratic is important. He told them it was actually 50,000. Which led to all of the squares freaking out. Later, Fornaro would explain his estimate by saying,

quote, we heard the Legion expected to bring 25,000 people to Portland, so we just doubled the number. We made it up out of thin air. The number meant nothing. It was just talk. But from there, it was gospel. And it was the image of exactly what the Normie's. were afraid of. There was misinformation coming from the FBI and troll shit coming from members of

the jamboree itself and things were getting out of hand. Right. Tensions were bubbling and by August things are so crazy that the mayor of Portland Terry shrunk declared an emergency. As did Oregon Governor McCall, which included a provision that took the permit for public spaces power away from the city commissioner and he gave it to the mayor. Right. Right. Right. So importantly, Let's just pull back for a second. And all of this is because hippies might be coming. Yeah, a lot of them. And they're mad at Nixon.

They might be coming. So we... 50,000 hippies versus Nixon? You know what? I'm shocked that we have taken a turn-torn fascism in this country. It seems crazy. It seems crazy in retrospect because everybody is so fucking rational all the time.

Yeah, totally. The story only gets less rational. Unsurprising. So seeking to find a compromise. Mayor Shrunk allowed a permit for the People's Army Jamboree to use a different park, East Delta Park, to camp and hold workshops

at the time of the American Legion Convention. However, he also gave a permit for the same park to a group called the Free People's Pop Festival, which wanted to do another woodstock at the same time. Your mind is putting pieces together, I think. You know,

you know, sometimes when you look back, he go, I can't believe they didn't get their shit together. Can't believe we're here where we're are now. So close. They were right there. In one set of circumstances, this would represent a disaster for the American Legion. Now you have the jamboree being allowed to hold an encampment

against their convention in Portland, and a potential second woodstock popping up that's going to draw people from around the country. It's a perfect storm. Or so it would appear. Right. Because none of it is real. Because it's all for ten. I'll cut to the chase and tell you that the free people's

pop festival is irrelevant, and it didn't end up happening. Sure. But keep it in your mind. Right. It was supposed to happen at East Delta Park and anti-legeon protests at the same place where they were scheduled to happen. At this point, everyone's losing their damn minds. The good citizens of Portland are pissed off that the government is making concessions and allowing these hippies to get together. And a splinter faction of the People's Army jamboree are starting to worry that like, are we causing a violent thing? Are we going to, are we part of the problem here? I want to say that the moment you're in the jamboree, And then you go, we're a splinter faction. You should be like, the jamboree has gone wrong.

Once a splinter faction starts, things have already gone too far. Yeah. So one such worried hippie was Sam McNaul, who happened to be the son of Oregon governor, Tom McNaul. Sam had gotten hooked on painkillers at the age of 13 and descended into a bit of the life of crime. Sure. His family had committed a few times,

and he was known to hang around at a free clinic in Portland called Outside Inn, where he would meet... You'd meet a guy named Dr. Charles Spray. Okay. And I only brought him up because I intended to squirt Jordan with a squirt gun after saying Dr. Charles Spray, but then I bailed on it

because I thought it would be mean. Yeah. Yep. So, Sam, and a number of other hippie associates thought that direct confrontation with the American Legion would lead to violence. And their hippie ideology was supposed to be about higher vibrations, not lower ones.

That's not what the chambery stands for. According to this splinter faction On the other hand The Legion protest had a message that it was all negative Like it's all this stuff we're against Like war Right Whereas they could put on an event

That would be free to attend It would be all about showing that there's a different way A life possible Like war! Or fucking in the mud Sure That's kind of against the war Right, where eh

So this dream would lead to the creation of the Vortex 1 festival. Whoever came up with that name, one. They hope for another. One. What a great name for the Vortex 1. Who are you?

That's a fucking Top Gun name. Vortex 1! What are you doing? Get a... Goose 2. Right? What are you... Oh, my God.

So right in about now, you might be asking yourself, wasn't there already a permit granted for the Free People's Pop Festival? That's actually what I was exactly asking myself. And you're right, to be confused about that. I've read a bunch about this, and the only conclusion that I can come to for sure is that no one is telling the truth about how this happened. Most of the people are self-mythologizing lies.

Sure, sure. The only thing that's certain is that someone came up with a brilliant idea, which was for the government to sanction and sponsor a different music festival, at the same time, somewhere else, hoping to lure the hippies away from Portland. And from the American Legion Convention featuring Richard Nixon. You taking it in? There's too many hippies coming. What are we going to do? If you have enough trombones, people will just support the war. You win. And this is exactly what happened.

Boom! A weird alliance of some concerned jamboree members, the office of the governor of Oregon, and some community organizations threw together Vortex 1 as an explicit attempt to separate the culture from the counterculture. Their hope was to drive a wedge between the serious-minded anti-Vietnam protesters and the fun-loving music festival lifestyle types, which is a winning strategy that we see undermining protest movements still today.

Sure, sure, sure, sure, absolutely. So now we have the People's Army jamboree planning their encampment at East Delta Park, and the state of Oregon is given McIver State Park to the hippies to throw their Vortex One festival, which sucked up all. all the resources that would have otherwise gone to the Free People's Pop Festival. Okay, so here's what brings me to my...

So there's the Ken Burns' like explanation of how the Civil War fought and how the military moves around. And then there's the community episode where basically Ken Burns explains how people moved their pillow forts around. Somehow this is right in between there. It's both.

Right? Like, this is pillow fort fighting. But at the same time, it's far more real. Yeah, you're going to be so disappointed at the end of this. So at McIver State Park, which is, this is why I wanted to go out there, and we would have probably had it not right. We would have had it. We would have to move you out to this park so you could have been there. Right, right, right.

But at that park, everyone would be allowed to do drugs and be naked. And the police had orders not to interfere. The location- Boys, we're not going near fuck park. Not fuck park. Not you, not you, Terry. I know you're going to fuck park. I know you're itching to give out.

Two tickets, but not this weekend. You're the old number. To this location, it was chosen strategically, because there was only one road in or out of the state park. So once the hippies were there, the police would have the advantage of probably being able to keep them there. So now that there's a plan starting to come together,

everyone loses their goddamn minds. Right. Being pulled this way and that way by propaganda. Sure. The state wants Vortex to be a huge hit, so it'll succeed in luring the hippies away from Portland while Nixon is there. While it's unclear what role the government had

in helping spread these whispers, there were a ton of rumors about huge acts that were going to be there. They tried to get the message out that this was going to be bigger than Woodstock, like Jefferson Airplane's going to be there. John Lennon is going to come in and do a set. You can just make stuff up back then.

You could just make it up. Nobody could even look it up. It's like everything was the fire. Yeah, everything was the fire festival. Everything. Every single day you would just go to a fire festival, and then it would be like, well, you're trapped here, and you're a slave now, I guess.

Like, that's America up until the fire festival. And you kind of had fun at that disaster of a festival. Well, what else were you going to do? Yeah. So, meanwhile, a rival music festival promoter named Bruce Mackin was trying to stop Vortex from happening because it threatened to destroy his upcoming festival Bullfrog 4

He spread vicious rumors about the vortex organizers and told the police that their vendors were communist fronts in an unsuccessful bid to put them out of business while this didn't end up

derailing the Vortex Festival it did trickle down to the public in the form of fear so when the time for the festival came around everyone was on edge scared as shit I don't know why we made it this far I feel like we should all be dead

and here's the point where you're really going to be disappointing. Yeah. Then nothing happened. Oh, God. These fucking people there. At the last minute, Richard Nixon canceled his speech

at the American League of Convention. That kind of took the wind out of the sales of the jamboree protests. So we're doing the story of the greatest case of blue balls in Oregon history. Yes. Okay, gotcha.

The turnout was good at Vortex, but the lineup sucked, so it had almost zero cultural impact. Outside of being the first, and almost certainly only hippie music festival officially sponsored by the state government. That has never happened and probably never will again. In the end, it was mostly just local bands

that ended up playing at the festival, but there was one place where Vortex truly did get one up on Woodstock. At Woodstock, Shahnana did a cover of Duke of Earl. Right. But at Vortex... Duke of Earl did a cover of Shonana. Gene motherfucking Chandler was there. Duke...

Duke, Duke of Earl, Duke. Brought to you by the Governor of Oregon. Enjoy your fucking and listening to the real Duke of Earl. There is something beautiful, because you can always recognize it. We've all seen it so many times in our life when there was clearly a group of people who didn't have any voice from outside that group of people. And at the end of the day, they all went,

that's a great idea. And if any human being outside of that was like, you're going to set up a rival music festival named Vortex 1 and you're not going to make a comic book about this? Well then you're an idiot, man.

The market may be open. Yeah, absolutely. So today, we honor this completely absurd piece of Portland history by covering a little bit of the period of time on Alex's show when that

festival happened in 2011. Yes, absolutely. Loric trajectory of this tangent has finally landed. And what I love about it is how, from the beginning, I know this is going to be so disappointed. It's eventually going to get there.

It's going to lead to nothing and Nixon cancels. Yeah, yeah. Like all good spaceship crashes, it went up real high. Yeah. Oh, and then it went real low. Yeah, yeah. So you're ready to jump into this episode? I suppose.

Okay, sure. What have we been doing up to this point? Is it a better question? Preamble. Ah, I got you. So here we are. It's August 28th, 2011, when the festival was kicking off. Yes.

And Alex has some big stuff that's going on around this time, too. This is a monumental, a little piece of history for him. Here's why. It is Sunday, the 28th day of August 2011. And we're now just, what, four days away from the premiere of Info Wars, nightly news, a completely new media operation. And folks know that I'm dedicated, my crew is dedicated. So that's certainly bellying up to the Info Wars warfare bar to sign on to produce five TV shows a week. You've seen some of the special reports.

A lot of production value, a ton of research, hard-hitting. It's hard-hitting stuff. Wow. We're about to launch the nightly news. Wow. Sometimes when you know the end of the thing, the beginning of a thing sounds crazy. What had a less exciting trajectory?

The story about Vortex 1 or the nightly news. The nightly news. What a... What a somehow boring plane crash. A plane crash that happens at negative three miles per hour. Yeah. So here we are just days away from the launch of the InfoWars Nightly News, which joins the InfoWars magazine and the InfoWars Washington DC desk

in the pantheon of unnecessary projects Alex took on to make his shit look like a normal news outlet. Yep. It was a good idea for InfoWars in 2011, because the trajectory at that point looked like they were building towards an extreme right-wing alternative to Fox that could last. Right. In 2025, the idea of trying to build infrastructure seems insane.

because Alex is sure right now is basically leading to a climactic battle with the devil. Yeah, absolutely. Not like we're going to do news. I mean, it would be if you had intended to battle the devil from the beginning, right. I would suggest your infrastructure issues

would be slightly different. It would probably involve more holy water, presumably paladin-based spell casting. I think you would want at least two D-8s between, you know, like, yeah, no, you're in trouble.

And if you're doing a hard-hitting nightly news show about how goes the war with the devil? Yeah. Like, you're going to have to do some pretty weird feel. News from the front! Your children are never going to escape. Oh, Jesus. Man on the street interview with someone who did battle with a demon.

Great. So this show, the Infor's Nightly News, it served as a good place for the junior varsity players to get some practice. Yes. But ultimately, by the time the network went full on for Trump, there was really no need for it anymore. The nightly news was designed to be a more calm, prepared, professional presentation of the news, but the entire media space that InfoWars was in had become engulfed in trolling, yelling, and laughing at your enemies crying and memes and stuff.

This format was pretty much useless to what InfoWars grew into, and it ended in 2017 with almost no one noticing. Yeah. I think whenever we were growing up, right and our parents would tell us stuff about how they were growing up and we wouldn't be able to relate to it. We would still be able to understand the concept of like, oh, it was slightly

worse than what I have now. I don't think a child now could understand like, no, it was wise at that time to be like less extreme. There was no advantage to just baiting attention out of people. No, absolutely. Like they just, there's no existence

of like, hey, pull it back a little bit. That doesn't exist in 2025. Yeah. It was harder to start a career just based on starting fights with people on websites. You know what? It's hard. I would suggest it's probably hard right now to start a career as like America's Newsman.

How's... How's America's Newsman doing these days? So good. Is he doing all right? So good. I don't know if he's doing okay. I fell off after he did an interview with Enzo Amore, former W.W.E. wrestler. I was like, what? Oh. And then I was looking

at his channel and another interview he did broke my heart. It was with Dr. Drew. So that's not a moray. Oh, Inchroger interviewed Dr. Drew. That's a sad booking for the name. Oh, Winstroyer interviewed

Dr. Drew. Yeah. Oof. So Alex is trying to tease the upcoming the nightly news, and so he plays a bit of a field piece

that Darren McBreen has filed. All right, all right. It's all about how utility prices are going out. With more on these incredible developments,

we're joined by InfoWars.com reporter Darren McBrain in downtown Austin. ...war's nightly news, and I'm here today at the Texas State Capitol, and we're about to find out if the people of Austin are aware that they're about to be hit by a wave of utility bill hikes. They are not. New EPA regulations drive up the cost of energy. What do you think about paying higher utility bills because of the EPA's new regulations

against power plants? You know, there may be some new regulations coming up against power plants at this point. But unfortunately right now, I think that our citizens, statewide and nationwide, basically overburdened, especially with today's economic developments and situations that are going on. I think rate hikes should be at a minimum to at least try to alleviate some of the burden on our taxpayers and our citizens nationwide and statewide. I know a lot of people that are going to be not only shocked but a little bit irritated about that as well. I mean, they're already, I mean, because it's such a hot summer. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

That's so boring. Woof But I play it because it's kind of interesting to feel them trying I don't know there was something captivating about how boring it was like that's such a reasonable response This is the format of the games

I'm fucking on the edge of my seat What other rational thing are you about to say Wait rate hikes are bad Do you have basic competence What is happening right now Yeah, Derek I mean back then They knew at least like We'll bring a camera.

Yeah. And we'll go and edit some B-roll together or whatever. We'll talk to some people. Like, it's not just yelling about a tweet. I mean, yeah. It is so, I just feel like it's more and more rare to just hear somebody be like, hey, maybe just like alleviate some of the prices on us. That got my nipples hard.

I was like, yeah. Yeah, buddy. It's a hot summer. This brings me back. Oh. So Alex has one main story that's going on on this show. He's mad that Al Gore, who's worried about climate change. He is calling climate deniers racists.

And Alex will not stand for this. Oh, he's a monster. Private corporate tax every time I pay my power bill. ...heon utilities to jack up prices to create artificial. Okay, start going to the clip where he says you're a racist. And it's the new civil rights movement. If you don't pay him carbon taxes, here it is. If you're going to take that power on, then you have to win the conversation.

And that means challenging the climate, a deniers. Deniers. It means asserting your beliefs. Holocaust deniers. You're the depth of your conviction and the strength of your passion. I remember, again, going back to my early years in the South. What a blow me. Civil Rights Revolution was unfolding.

There were two things that really made an impression on me. My generation watched Bull Connor turning the hose on the civil rights demonstrators, and we went, whoa, how gross and evil is that. What a con artist is you're getting. My generation asked to older people, explain to me again why it's okay to discriminate against people because their skin color is different. And when they couldn't really answer that question with integrity, the change really started. Secondly, back to this phrase, win the conversation.

There came a time when friends or people you work with or people you were in clubs with, you're much younger than me, so you didn't really go through this personally. But there came a time when the voices, the comments would come up in the course of the conversation. and in years past they were just, you know, it was just natural their theme of time when people said Hey, why you thought that way? We'll be back with the next hour

I'll play the rest out that it's unbelievable. Yeah, man. So boringly Al Gore said that you're a racist if you're against climate change. Here's what I feel like. I feel like if I was going to like quantum leap myself anywhere, it would be into Al Gore because I feel like everything

Al Gore said was 100% But if it was me and if it was instead of him being like, you have to win the government. You are going to... Like, help him. His delivery might have been a little soft. I feel like it was... You know, if you think about it, like... Good point, but yell it.

Yeah. Get in there. You do have to... See, that's the problem. If you're right about you have to win the conversation, then you have to win the conversation. Yeah, and that... Ugh.

Yay. I agree. The structure of how the conversation is happening is precludes. precluding you from doing it. But if it weren't for his horrible failures, we wouldn't have gotten some great Futurama episodes. So, you know, it's a worthy trait. Yeah.

So this is one of Alex's big stories for the day that Al Gore said that you're racist if you don't believe in climate change. As is the case so often with the narratives that Alex pushes, the problem comes down to either not understanding basic linguistics or him being willing to exploit that in an audience.

Al Gore is saying that there's a similarity between the racists who oppose the civil rights movement and the people who were denying the existence of human-made climate change. Right, right, right. The similarity these groups have isn't that they're both racist. It's that they both only can make their arguments if the other side humors them politely for the sake of getting along. Eventually, the level of racism that exists

is kind of dictated by how seriously a society takes racism, and the same is true of climate denial. Right. At the start of the civil rights movement, both sides, society didn't fully take racism that seriously, and there was a lot of desire on the public to both sides the issue to reduce conflict. An essential part of winning that conversation was moving away from that both sides mentality and towards a place where if your argument was based on just racism, people felt free not to treat it like a valid point. That's the

similarity that Gore is talking about here. We've humored climate deniers on the basis of assuming that their arguments came from a place of good faith, but we've reached the point where that's no longer possible. At the beginning of the civil rights era, maybe you could pretend that you supported segregation for some non-hateful reason, but there came a point when all those possible reasons were shown to be bullshit,

and anyone holding on to supporting segregation was clearly just a racist. When the conversation about climate change started, it was possible that you could have some doubts and skepticism, but there came a point where a lot of those doubts and skepticism concerns, they've been addressed. And it's pretty reasonable to assume

that if you're someone who's hostile, still as hell towards climate change stuff, you might have a link to the fossil fuel industry. Yeah. Eventually you reach a point where if you had a genuine question, it was answered. Yeah. So if you're still asking questions, your real answer is, shut the fuck

up and go away. Yeah. And that's... Shut the fuck up. But what if oil's good for you? Shut the fuck up and go away. And that's the point that Al Gore is trying to make. Right. And that Alex is saying, it's him saying that... And yet, and yet, because it is a good point,

but the point involves saying shut the fuck up Al Gore cannot make it well yeah yep because he doesn't have the freedom of yelling yeah it's so brutal it's just a brutal paradox

that the man who is right about everything got to speak too soft so that clip it's not really that important of a news story Alex you know it's just Al Gore says climate deniers are racist

it's something he'll move on from you know sure it's not that important but I needed to play it for you because now we're going to take a hard turn into one of the ads on Alex's show. Democrats, Republicans, have you had enough?

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Get more information now. Call 800, 5.1. Is that reverse count girl? Or go to A3P.me. That's A, the number three, p.me. It's time to take America back. Oh boy. In 2011, Alex was taking ad money

from the American third position party, which is definitely not a surprise now, but it probably should have been dealt with as a bigger issue for him at the time. Yeah, I imagine so. A3P is a neo-fascist political party that's organized mostly around white supremacy. Wow.

That was actually America's first position. I think we should all be proud that maybe it got relegated a third, but maybe we're lying to ourselves what we're saying is there. I don't know. I don't know. But it feels like that was number one. The party started on the neo-Nazi message board storm front. Here's what I like. Before we go any further, here's what I like.

We talked about this a little bit before the show. It is very hard from a physical perspective, if you are us, to hear a lot of people boo at you, and not go, I fucked up. My body is telling me that that's my fault. Oh, shit. We gotta fight. So we respect that all of you

genuinely meant that in the spirit of goodness. So, stormfront. Exactly. No, I'm just kidding. So a group of... Here's what I want you to do and said, if you feel like booing and said everybody united say, thank you, Dan.

No. So... No, boo away. One, two, three. But thank you. Stop it, but I appreciate it. This is an evil power that I have just gained. So Stormfront.

Yep, I'm going to die. I'm going to go to hell for this. Yep, yep. I should have fucking brought a-spoken. You should have fucking squirted me. So, there were a group of skinheads. They called themselves the Freedom 14. And they decided that they wanted to try and get explicit racist shit

into the mainstream political conversation by putting a polite, respectable face on it. Sure. In 2009, they launched the Golden State Party to try and stealthily run neo-Nazi candidates in California elections. Not to nail threes from any distance. No.

Completely different party. No. Not the Steph Curry Rocks party. Okay. I was trying to think if A.C. Green ever played for the Warriors. That is for so few people, but that you're here is amazing. It pretty quickly came out that the chairman of this party was a fellow. So it hurt their chances at the whole polite, respectable face part.

of the plan. But the Nazis were unfazed, and they decided to rename themselves America's third position and make a lawyer named William Daniel Johnson their figurehead. Okay. Johnson had a history of calling for the deportation of everyone in the United States who wasn't white. Sure. And had written a proposed amendment to the Constitution under the pseudonym James O. Pace. In 1987, that would have repealed the 14th and 15th Amendment. Sure. You know, but that's... Okay.

So, but here's the thing. You got to remember that pre-internet, right, it's remarkable that these things existed because you can go back and you're going to be like, they wasted paper on this. But everybody you know has written one of these, you know? Most of the people you've seen on the internet has like a, here's the amendment that I would fucking write.

Do you have, like, in your drafts, do you have like a bunch of amounts? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to know what some of them are. America's first position is going to be his last position, if you know what I'm saying. Thank you, Jordan. So Johnson ran for office a number of times, and he associated with serious racist and Nazi creeds.

There's no reason for Alex or anyone who he's working with to not know who America's third position is in 2011, and it's inexcusable for him to take advertising money from these Nazis. Anyway, William Daniel Johnson was one of Donald Trump's delegates for California at the 2016 RNC. You know, sometimes, sometimes, because I'm from sports. Sometimes it's hard, it's hard for people to like, who aren't from sports to understand what sports moments really mean to them.

So if you're from sports and you listen to that, this would be like a Tiger Woods moment. Like that was a, boom! Right there. That's what that was. That was a sports. I felt it. I felt good.

Yeah, that was good stuff. The media reported on him being a super explicit racist. Trump's campaign tried to pretend that his inclusion as a delegate was the result of a database error, which is I'm sure also why Alex took the ad. What? Was the error that he was in the database? No, it's that you saw the database. Right.

Oh, you guys saw that we picked a racist. Shit. Guy who's in charge of this shit party. So anyway, the rest of this episode isn't so great. It's not that interesting. Wow. But that kind of happens sometimes at music festivals. Oh my God, the tangent just hit

Oh fuck Oh God A second tangent has hit the Jordan Oh my God I got hit from the back So On the first day You're kind of getting used to

Fucking in the mud And all that Sure You don't get the real Marquis acts So maybe we can just jump to the 29th We'll see what the lineup is like on The Port-a-Potties are a little bit less enticing

at this point in time. Oh yeah. Oh, for sure. So here's some of the news that we're dealing with. Burglars family awarded $300,000 in wrongful death suit. This is out of El Paso, Texas. And the

family business had been robbed repeatedly. A family business had been robbed repeatedly. So the family stayed up late, stayed in the business. And when the armed admitted methamphetamine addicts, it's all here in the article, came in, they shot one of them who was armed, and the jury has ruled that, and I'm seeing more and more of this, that they are

civilly liable. My friends, there's a castle doctrine. You can shoot someone if they come in your house and break in, period, day or not. Sure. If it's nighttime, you can shoot somebody in your yard. Well, that's good to know. That's just good to know. That's good to know. I didn't know that. That's good to know. That is affected by daylight. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You're going to get no billed by the grand jury, even if it's in your yard.

And we see cases of this all over the country where people have been robbed over and over and over again. So, they leave their garage door open. It's a Texas case a few months later. They sit there like their deer hunting. And when the person comes in to steal their bicycle, they shoot them and they kill them. And when you have that type of activity, you have much lower crime rins.

Yikes! Holy shit! A rich guy in, like, the most dangerous game would say, like, all right, so he's coming for me too. All right, so all I was doing was hiding up in the trees, in my blind, waiting for this guy wearing a rope to rope. to run by. But he was trying to kill me, man. It takes two to tango. Right?

So you can defend yourself on your own property, but what you can't do is wait around like you're hunting deer. So then murder people when they try to break him. So, all right. Now, it was hard to get a general contractor to remove the concrete from our driveway, replace it with sharpened spikes, and then cover it over with a very similarly camouflage. looking thing.

But, you know what? Quality work you have to pay for. Yep. You just got to. So a few of the major factors in this civil case that ended up happening was that the guys who did the shooting

had previously told people, including the police, that they intended to kill future trespassers. So that would strike one. Strike two, they chased the burglars and yelled, we're gonna get you.

And the guy they ended up killing was hiding in a shed with the bullet. hitting him after going through a shed's wall. He posed no threat to them at all. Okay, so if I understand correctly, in this universe, right, we're the people from the Hills Have Eyes

and we just like accidentally walked onto his face and then he's like, listen, if you take a step in there, you're going to get eaten by incest babies. I mean, it's on you. Castle Doctrine. Castle Doctrine, yeah. I get that the Second Amendment is important to Alex and all that, but he really shouldn't have this position

and even gun rights folks were critical of this shooting. You can find a lot of conversation from the time about how lucky this dude is that he lives in Texas because if he'd done the same thing in a number of other states, he would have been looking at murder charges. Yeah. As it stands, he was just sued by the daughter of the guy he killed and the jury found him responsible for his death.

You don't just get to execute people. Yeah. I guess that Alex doesn't agree with that. Well, I mean, listen, once you start liking mounting that, heads of things on a wall. Sometimes you can get carried away whenever you're just... The spirit takes me and you're like, well, I saw a mounted head on the wall.

That's Dave. Ah, that's Dave was a really nice guy. But his ears were long, so you kind of want to have him on your wall. I get it. No, I get it. So this is a power that Alex derives the right to kill people

from the Magna Carta. Yeah, why not? I don't think the punishment fits of crime, but still, It's a castle right An ancient treeholder Wright Magna Carda 1215 right If somebody comes on your land

Especially at night You can kill him People should know this Especially at night You should know this You should know this Especially have no trespassing signs were posted and they were

Yeah if you got signs of Kill But now I think that this position Is one that Alex can have Yeah Because he doesn't steal stuff You know If you steal stuff from people,

then maybe you're going to get... Castle Doctrine. Magna Carta, you get shot. Unfortunately, Alex gets lost in telling a story about stealing stuff. I don't think the punishment fits the crime. I don't think it's good that he is dead. I'll be honest.

I was never a big thief, but I grew up on a golf course, and I learned from older friends how to go up to the country club, and the golfers will have a big container. an ice chest on the back of their golf carts full of beer. And I only did it a few times, mainly when older kids would say, come on, it's your turn. Come on.

You want some beer. I'd be like 12, 13, 14 years old. Oh, right. I remember going to, just like in Caddyshack at the country club. Wasn't as fancy as the Caddyshack Country Club, but you'd have all the adults at the Country Club drink and they'd leave their drink sitting there half drunk. Just like in Caddyshack,

where Spalding is going down the bar, taking a drink out of each one, and then he drinks one that has a cigarette in it, and goes out and vomits in the guy's Porsche. I'm digressing back with some men. So my child, doing what I did, grabbing some beer, are grabbing some watermelons. In fact, I have some cousins that told the story of just for fun, stealing some watermelons.

And they were running off with them, and here came the shotgun pellets, and they were too far. away for it to penetrate, but it sure hurt them. The old timers knew how to do it. Yeah, man. Whoa. Those old timers knew... Your conclusion, at the

end of all of those old timers knew how to do it. Yeah. All right. They knew how to shoot it, kids, right. I can see why it was more difficult to learn lessons in the past. If those old timers knew how to do it, also included.

I mean, I feel like he drugged somebody. I feel like this story involves him putting something in somebody's drink. Yeah. It means country club. He's stealing booze. He should have been shot. I don't like it. I think he should have been shot.

By his own standards. If he was shot, we would have to say, like, man, what are you going to do? Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah. So, Jordan, on that thought of his life may have ended

at a golf course, at 13 for stealing beers. Yes. Let's go to a commercial. All right. I think we need to see what else is going besides Nazi advertising. Absolutely. Hey, Brian, if you could do just one thing today to ensure your family's food security,

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soup bean, beans for soup. None of us went, oh, they just couldn't be bothered to add an R to Super Bean. Or they couldn't get the URL. Exactly. It is actually soup, S-O-U-P. Oh, okay.

It is soup beans. All right. That's somehow still worse. What kind of an idiot would name something, soup bean. Oh, God. The only way to survive is a soup bean. Soup bean survive. So if you go to their

website, you'll find that it's a guy named Bill who's one of the characters in that commercial. Naturally. Who wants to sell you beans. Are they grocery store beans? Fuck you. No. They are totally grocery store beans. He is so serious about these beans. Nobody would have asked that question if the answer weren't yes.

He's getting ahead of it. So... Did you fuck that goat? Who said I've fuck the guy. Ah! So, they found a magical bean that is almost extinct. Yes. It's only grown in the Sacramento Valley by a mysterious farmer who Bill has dubbed

The Bean Doctor. When a Bean Doctor. It doesn't matter where you are or what time there is. There's always a doctor group. There's always a put a little Ebola in your drink. There's always a fucking guy who's like, I'm going to heat. your dumb asses all day. With a magic bean.

Jesus Christ. Hold on to that Ebola cure because he might come up later. God damn it, that health ranger! So here's a description of the Bean Doctor from the Soup Bean website. Quote, the Bean Doctor is not

a traditional farmer. What? He's a little quirky, a little secretive, and he only grows rare heirloom beans. He is. He isn't just a farmer, he's also historian, anthropologist, an explorer all rolled into one. He's the Indiana Jones of beans.

Show him a bean he's never seen before and he's excited as if he'd won the Powerball lottery. Is a guy who is pumped about beans. He's into beans. I'm getting it. I'm getting it. But you might be asking yourself, who am I to prepare these types of rare beans? I wasn't asking myself that at all. I'm no chef. I can't handle these rare beans. Sure! On the website, quote,

And don't make the mistake of assuming because these are rare beans they require fancy preparation. Oh, this question was, do these rare beans require fancy preparation? They don't. Great, good news. My second question was,

is this entire thing fucking faking or are these grocery store beans? They don't, fuck you, man. They're not grocery store beans. All right. Well, I'm glad that they don't require any special preparation. So every year, the lineup of beans changed. That's so crazy.

In 2011, here is some. of the lineup of beans you could get from soup beans. The Christmas Lima bean. Lime bean. Quote, this bean is nothing like the lime of beans your mother made you eat. So, so,

so it's exactly like the lime of these here. It's similar. Another one is the huderite soup bean. The hudorite soup bean. A hudderite, hudorite, whatever. Whatever. Quote, this bean isn't much to look at,

but don't let the dull appearance fool you. What beans are much? to look at. This is a shabby bean. What beans are like, oh. Hello. Another one, Jacob's cattle. That green bean is long. All right.

That's suggested. Yeah, okay, okay, a little thin for my taste, but who knows? So we got Jacob's cattle. Yep. Quote, the origin of this heirloom bean is somewhat of a mystery. Some historians claim the bean came from Prince Edward Island.

Others claim German settlers brought the bean to the Americas in the 1700s. So very different things to claim that it's almost like it doesn't matter what anybody claims. No matter how it got here, we're just glad it did. Because it's a great bean.

I spent so long being obsessed with beans preparing this episode. I want to say that one of my closest friends from the early days of comedy, I'm delighted to shout about Matt Elfrink.

One of the things that he did, He's a big fan of absurdist comedy, but one of the things he did that was just for us is he made a website that was about logs, and it was a log blog, and at the end of every blog about a log, it would just say, overall, a very satisfying log. And it made, it was for four people,

and every time he blogged about a log, we laughed our balls off. It's fantastic, because do you know what? At the end of the day, overall, it was a very satisfying log. That's how it is for me and beans. Exactly. Yeah, no, I'm finally entering the episode from a genuine place. There was another bean called the goat's eye bean.

Okay. Quote, gray with a dark stripe, it's true to its name. This bean really does look like the eye of a goat. It doesn't sound great. It doesn't sound appetizing. I don't want to eat goat eyes. So, we move along into the episode, and Alex gets preoccupied. thinking about secret science programs.

Sure. Well, I mean, that's wise. Yeah. Government's doing all kinds of crazy shit. They're always doing crazy shit. Military industrial complex... Eh. What are you going to do? Has developed with their unlimited trillions of U.S. taxpayer money. A lot of super science.

They use a science fiction term. Captain America. They created artificial sons 30 years ago. They created black holes 20 years. ago. Buh. Boring! Japanese for the first time made a black hole, you know, three years ago.

The singularity, boo! The DARPA test decades ago. They have done incredible things in cyclotrons and superconducting supercolliders. There has been a 60-year deep base program that's admitted, but the details aren't known. I've gotten some pieces of that from military personnel and others. It's very credible. Very credible. Are they grocery store beans?

Fuck you. The point is, there's a lot going on we don't know. But we have examples of the SR-71 Blackbird in service in the mid-50s. They're saying it's the fastest plane in the world still today. Does anyone really believe that? Well, it's not.

It's the fastest manned, air-fed, engine plane. He's acting like other innovation didn't happen. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, I respect everything that you're saying, but like, oh, Okay. If you're a physicist who gives a shit about what a black hole is, the idea of just being like, eh, we've made a black hole before,

and they're lying about how fast that plane was, is way not understanding the importance of a black hole. I feel like there were, there's, I think I've run into like a couple. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Space and time have inverted in a single point, and we'll never know what is, or isn't real. But anyways, this plane is slow? Bullshit.

So Alex brings this stuff up, and he's very lucky because he goes to calls, and he gets a call pretty quickly from a guy who used to work at Area 52. And the rumors were that there was Star Trek-type technology that was being suppressed. You know, I think I saw the Aurora in the 70s actually fly over my head one night. Maybe. But it seems like they're all... Area 51 or 52? I worked at 52. I was right next to 51.

And, you know, first there would be lots of rumors flying around about what was going on at 51. And, you know, like I said, it was Star Trek type technology, holographic technology, and all kinds of things that they were. Well, we know they've got that and have been testing it where they can protect flying saucers, Buddha, Muhammad, Christ, whatever they want. That much has been admitted. And now we have the New York Times and others calling for a fake alien invasion. to unify the world. Yep. Nope, that was the comic book, The Watchman.

No, no, it's New York Times. Nope, that was the comic book, the Watchman. They finished getting us, you know, interested in the war in Iraq, and then they're like, we need a fake alien invasion. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, and I think I want to express this, and I think we should all truly be jealous of us,

because none of us will ever know that true fear in the moment of going, like, I worked at Area 52, and just hoping to keep going. Right? Like, can you imagine just, like, the moment of just going, I worked next door, and then continuing. What?

And I've seen so, like, I've seen some planes, but, like, I don't really know much. I've just heard talk. That's all he has. He's just heard things. I'm very modestly lying to you right now about pretend magic. Yeah. So this caller is not very important. But it sets the stage for something that I think is monumental,

I have never seen on Alex's show before, and I thought had never happened. Okay. Alex is talking to this caller, and then pulls his dad into the studio. You know, it's funny. I was talking about my dad just getting back from vacation in Wyoming, in Montana. Mainly up there looking at fossils and going to dinosaur digs. And then I go out of the studio, and he had to drop some stuff off. I forgot at his house this weekend

when I was over there for my grandmother's birthday and so I drugged my dad in here now he didn't want to be on camera he didn't want to actually be in there I actually physically grabbed him and forced him down on the seat yeah

I buy that I did not realize that there was an interview with his dad I thought he'd never given it up wasn't that the height of like Bam Margera's popularity so everybody on MTV was like breaking into their dad's place and like

ripping him out of bed at night and being like, ah, you shouldn't have had children. Wasn't that the life that we all lived at the time? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Alex kicked down his dad's door while he was sleeping, yelled at him with a bullhorn and threw beyond tangy tangerine on him.

Police date three! Yep, which is not a joke. Nope. So Alex's dad was doing a dinosaur dig? Yep, he was. Which kind of makes sense, because he's a dentist. Yep. And dinosaurs had teeth.

Can't get out of that logic. I mean, I can't dispute it. Yep. On a one-to-one level. So Alex's dad has seen some alien stuff, maybe. Sure. Who fucking knows. The most he's going to talk about on the show, though,

is that he saw that Blackbird SR-71, the fastest plane. Bullshit, not that fast. Black holes are gay. Back when he was... Sorry, this was that time period. Tell us your experiences like that. Once when I was six, seven years old, we were driving back from East Texas on 45.

We looked out the window and flying low or three things that looked like super stealth fighters, but more advanced than anything you've seen today. Almost like a stealth SR 71, but they were like gray and looked like something out of a science fiction movie. When you were a kid, you saw the blackbird there in East Texas. But tell folks, well, tell folks about both those experiences, but also what you just saw in Wyoming or was it Montana. It was in northern Wyoming, not far from Montana, but in Freestone and Leon County, they used to do a lot of testing. They would drop shaft out of airplanes and everything. And one time I was early morning walking up to our school, and all of a sudden, a delta-winged airplane that was black, went over, looked like 50 feet over the building with a sonic boom.

And at that time, I wanted to be the first kid on the moon. And I would, drew pictures of it, and it literally was the blackbird. And so Lord knows what they have now. How cute is this dude? He wanted to be the first kid on the moon. Not the first person on the moon, not the first adult. He wanted to be a kid on the moon. I wanted to join Peter Pan on the North Star.

Yes. And get all the way to the moon. Isn't that sweet? Because that blackbird. Oh, that's beautiful. That is very beautiful. Yeah. So anyway, he...

He's a Nazi. It's unfortunate. There we go. Yeah. I knew it. Yeah, I'm... Look, there's no way around it. I wanted to be the first kid on the moon,

but then I wasn't! Nine! Nine! I wanted to be the first... There will never be another child on the moon! I wanted to be the first kid on the moon to reunite with the Nazis that have a base on the dark side.

I wanted to join my people. It was a Nazi phone home, is what we're saying. It's basically... I think that's where we're at. So, they talk a bit. about how the globalists want to reduce the population and all that. Wow.

And they don't think that it's worth doing. They don't think the globalists need to be doing that. And that there's plenty of space. We're not overpopulated. Then they say something dumb. We are just barely utilizing the potential. Well, humans are like fish. We stay in a little reef areas.

That's where commerce is. And so we tend to congregate, so people have this false illusion that we're overpopulated. Well, it's just like people saying that cows are a problem with global warming due to methane. I think if someone did a study, there's probably less commercial animals alive now than when the buffalo is run.

It'd be a very interesting study to do. I think that Ashley Duns tell you, there were around the same number of buffalo they believed in there were cows now. It doesn't matter. There's always been creatures running around passing gas and they sell us in the fact that we've got to pay out more money or the cow farts are going to kill us. That sounds

ludicrous, but there's truth to it. Yep. Yep. That is a great Alex's dad line. Yep. That sounds ludicrous, but there's truth to it. Stop humoring your stupid kid. So Alex thinks that they've done a study and found that there's as many cows around now

as there were buffalo back in the day. They did a study. Who did that study and who paid for it? No one. Yeah, well. But someone did do a study, and there's so many more cows alive now. Obviously! A very conservative estimate would put the U.S. population of domestic cows that over double the amount of wild cattle that ever lived in North America.

Sure. And that to the amount of livestock that are raised in other parts of the world where buffalo and bison weren't native. And you have increases in these populations of like a hundred times. Yeah. And then, of course, you have the stegosaurus steaks from the Flintstones. Those should also count. Yeah, yeah.

These guys are supposed to know stuff and be like Texas cattle dudes. So the idea that they can think that there are like less cows in 20s, 2011 than before factory farming is fucking stupid also the idea of being like there were more commercial bison back then what from what commerce

are we talking about well commerce is like fish that really should have there are some things that should be met with like an automatic gigantic hand slap hit you in the face where you're just like oh yeah people are like fish at a reef whale

it's a commerce Yeah, exactly. That makes sense. So, I think basically through this appearance, I figured out why Alex's dad doesn't want to be on his show much. Yeah. And that is because he might be dumb. That sounds ludicrous, but there is truth to it. No, that doesn't deserve it.

But I'll take it. So Alex's dad and Alex, they only have a little short time on the show together, because Alex dragged him in there. Of course. And it ends with Alex making sense. a promise. Where I live in the country, all the animals are coming to my house because we're irrigated. I have like 50 turkeys in the backyard.

You know, I hear him always getting fights over a worm or something. You've heard a turkey fight? Yeah, I have. Nothing more frightening than a raccoon fight. That's where you got a bunch of them bringing your house here at this. I have 11 visitors. Because it's so horrible. You're an evil human.

Dad, I love you. I'm going to try to give even more grandkids. Does it make the globalist math? We're right back. We're on the march. The Empire's on the World. run. I'm going to give you more kids. I'm going to fuck more. It's a very different tone than his like,

I killed your kids. Yeah, absolutely. I have committed abortion. Get out of my house. I mean, it feels weird that what I'm hearing is that their main conversational overlap is like, what type of animals do you think are crazy when they fight? For me, it's turkey, but for you it's raccoon? What else do we to say, I don't know, I'm going to give you more kids? Wow.

I'm old-fashioned. I think any two animals fighting is pretty interesting and scary. If it's mismatched, then I'm super uncomfortable watching. But if it's, you know, animals about the same sounds, then I'm scared. You know, here's it, here's an interesting. This is a thing that I hadn't considered before. We have all grown up in an era of unlikely animal friends being something that we just have access to. Like sometimes you can just go on the internet and be like,

that crow and that hippo are friends. The world is great! Right? But these people didn't have that. They just had, let's watch Turkey's fight or fuck. That's all we've got. That's where Alex's dad comes from. And wanting to be the first little boy on the moon.

It's an innocent that bred Nazi shit for Alex. So Alex's dad coming on, I honestly thought this is like groundbreaking. and stuff. Sure. And what a get for a music festival. Like, that's a headliner. You got Alex's dad in the studio? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot like getting Charles Manson at Woodstock. Yes. Yeah, it's a lot like that. So I had to come down after experiencing this. And thankfully, there's a commercial that can

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Why not? Surprise. So I do like listening to commercials like that, because I'm like, nope, nope, no, uh-uh, no. No, no way, no chance. Nothing can do that shit. That commercial cost the company $40 million. That sounds right. Filed a suit.

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Yeah, you're too broke to pay the $40 million. Problem solves itself. Stop doing this. It would be meaner to you, but you failed. You're not even good at lying. It's really interesting to go back and listen to this stuff because you'll see that the people who were paying him at revenue back then were mostly Nazis and health fraud.

and now the people who he supports politically are pretty much Nazis and health frauds. Yeah, yep. Which is probably a coincidence. I don't know if there's a line between these things. Thank you. So, Alex talks a little bit about a high school memory. Sure.

And we've already learned in this episode. Too much about his past. He stole beer and should have been shot at the country club 100% when he was 13. And in this clip, I learned another important thing, and that is that he went to high school for five years. Every other country has immigration controls, but us. We're a joke.

We're a joke. The country is collapsing. Okay, that's all I have to say on the subject. And you heard the Hispanic-American guy earlier, you know, say, no, I admit it's massive amounts of Hispanics are like Laraza, get the gringo. Okay, well, let's just get it out in the open. Point is, I'm not going to sit here and play along with this game that the government foundations didn't.

engineer this in the universities and high schools. It was taught where I was, I went to Anderson for two years here in Austin. And I was taught, white people are evil by the white teachers. This is L'Ricongista. The Hispanics will get you. The whites are evil. I was taking the University of Texas in art class and taught by one of their Chicano studies guys that America was bad and then I was bad. And I said, I don't agree with this.

Mexico had its own atrocities and problems and new history. And they totally freaked out how to meeting and came up and said, how do you know history? and who are you? And it was like they found a leprechaun or something that I was, you know, 18 years old, I was in high school five years. Didn't really go the first year. I'm going to shut up now because Mike Adams is here.

Yeah, Mike Adams is here. That's a lot. That's a lot to take in. That was a journey to go on. Yeah. That was a journey. That was a journey of increasingly makes me believe you lessable things.

Just every little addition to that. Like, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. I was there for five years, like, ah, you fucker. So this art teacher was telling you that you're bad because you're... They had a meeting. Oh, because they were scared.

Let me try it. So in this, like, you can just say they had a meeting. But from what I understand, based upon him saying, you know, Mexican people did stuff, people in power got together and were like, holy shit.

This fucking kid, he found a book. He found a fucking book Where'd he fucking find that shit? Convened the board Get everybody together This is a crisis Jesus Christ Put up the nerd signal

No Didn't work No So I don't believe any of this And I'm not shooting on Alex For going to high school for five years I dropped out of high school I'm not trying to like

Be a dick about that It's just a piece of lore That we didn't know before Right And so I thought we'd add it to the compendium Add it into the things that may or may not be true and we'll never know the truth of. Yeah, the rest of that clip, I'm sure, is not true.

No, absolutely not. So, but one thing that is, totally true, is that Mike Adams is here. Oh, God. Oh, the Health Ranger. The Health Ranger. The Health Ranger. He cured Ebola by putting Ebola in with some whiskey.

Yep. And, yeah, he's a real piece of shit. He sucks. Yeah. But he's all about unity. indeed. Right? He thinks that all of their movements they're running competition with each other.

So that's the message that he wants to spread on this episode. He wants people to stop thinking he's like the Green Ranger and start thinking he's like the white ranger. Yes. Yes, exactly. Alex's dad signed off on that. And also, it turns out Mike Adams

is maybe a doctor? No, he's not. He's a blogger. He's a website guy. And now he has a new career. This is about patriots, you know, banding together to put the truth out there. There's no competition. It's total cooperation about informing people, educating people. We cover more health and food freedom. They're murdering people knowingly.

These are cold-blooded headwors. Exactly, exactly. We all got to rise up and just play a role in this. Whenever we are called to play a role, we've got to jump on that end. That's why you're getting into music. Let me tell you're talented. My wife likes that genre of kind of pop rap and other people in the office. I just say, that's good.

I mean, I know that most of it tortures my ears. You know, the kind of pop stuff. I like some of the old-school stuff. But yours, I actually enjoyed it. Hey, thanks, man. Hey, thanks, man. What a compliment. Mike Adams has started a musical career.

Yeah. I think he's probably good. I think it's going to pay off. Living in the future as we now do, I can see that it worked out. Yeah, pop rap. Pop rap. Stuff usually offends Alex's sensibility.

You know, I can't help but compare that to our earlier Al Gore clip and just imagine hearing Al Gore be like, well, you have to win the conversation. They're fucking murdering your family, aren't they right now? Al Gore, your rapping's amazing. Yeah, Al Gore's starting a rap career. Hey, and most of the time that hurts my ears, but your stuff's pretty good. Hey, thanks, man. If we went from Clinton's saxophone to Al Gore's bars,

I think we would have a very different country. Yeah. I think that is the case. So I explored a lot of Mike Adams' music. Most of the interview that he does is just about how he's discovered a new vaccine conspiracy. Sure, sure, sure.

Let's hear some music. This is a music festival. This is Portland, the anniversary of vortex. Mike Adams is headlining. Everybody puts some Ebola in your holo. So the first song I'm going to play for you. Yeah. We're not going to listen to these songs in completion

because they are a disaster. We couldn't afford the rights. Yeah, yeah. We don't want to get sued by the Ranger. Well, it's interesting you say that because this one should get him sued by a good friend of mine. Carly Ray Jepson.

I'm so spicy, but don't you call me. So dumb. You sound crazy. No, crazy. And then I'm the one job. The bosses call me. It's too dumb and race. Fuck you.

To remember is that we are living through terrible times, but imagine this. Imagine Hitler doing a remix of Gungnam style, right? Like, at least we skipped over the part where Hitler's like, ah, Gondom style, you know, like, that's better. That's better. Yep. Jesus Christ.

But it happened, and now we all have to deal with it. And now we all have to have that in our mind. We're all going to go home like that. So, yeah, that was like trying to shoot on unemployed people and say they're dumb. Which is cool. It's a cool message. So we got another song. I think says moral superiority.

Quite like making a parody song about people maybe being lazy somewhere else. Yeah. Waking up too late. Yeah. Come on. Oh, my God. So when we flew here from Chicago. We did.

And we went through the TSA. Yes, we did. Everything. And I did not have the experience of. of anyone feeling up my, you know, grabbing me. No. I didn't get shaken down. Not this time. But here is a song about how you can't do that.

Uh-oh. Let's get this on. About to miss my flight. Come on. I went to the airport to catch my flight. The tea. And shout, I have to get my message out. I said, don't touch my junk.

Don't touch my junk. That's good stuff. Sometimes I like to imagine Q-tips killing people. I don't know why I've thought of that immediately, but I don't think hip-hop would be appreciative of that. Usually this sort of music hurts Alex's ears, but this shit is legit. Don't...

This is so good. Don't touch my junk. Don't touch my junk. My man junk. Which kind of junk, though? Man junk. Ah, that's the worst kind. He was going to miss his flight.

Don't touch it. Don't touch his joke. Don't touch his junk. If I have one piece of advice to... of everyone here in Portland. You see Mike Adams, don't touch his job. He made a song about it. He literally wrote the song on it.

Yeah. So I listen to a lot of his music. Yeah. And I only thought it would be appropriate to subject people to three songs. Because at a certain point, we're really risking this being too much of an indulgence.

Sure. Yeah. So he's trying to say that he's doing a socially conscious pop rap kind of project. That's what he's trying to say. Right. With what he is created for us, if you

look back and he says, look at what I've made for you, that's what you're supposed to conclude he did. Yeah. And so like, the dumb and lazy is like, hey, get a job. Right. Like John and off talked about. Help me. Yeah. Don't Touch My Junk is about the TSA. Absolutely. It's important. But he also made songs that are just kind of sad love songs.

So this is a song that he did called, I Just Want You to Know My Name. No! This is a real bummer. Oh, God. If I am, I'm trying to find. Tell me yours. I tell you mine.

He's afraid to talk to somebody. That's the song. It's a love-sick song of like, I just want you to know my name. He's married. Ranger. So, I feel like he made that to, like, identify with this teenage daughter

and I don't feel comfortable about it. Any of that. So the real question is, I guess, what is more painful for you? Would it be that love song or Don't Touch My Junk? What do you think has less artistic value? Boy, I was thinking that Don't Touch My Junk was a low, but... Little did you know. It was a high point.

That feels like a... If I'm walking by somewhere and I hear some of that, I'm like, oh, well, that's clearly a true crime documentary that's happening in the background. The only explanation for that is later on there was a murder. So I'll just leave that behind. I think that these all went platinum. Yeah.

So there's plenty more where that came from. And if you want to look for more of his music, it's all out there. And there's a couple of songs that he did that are straight up attempts at being Blink 182's Adam's song. Like he has multiple songs about how you shouldn't kill yourself, which is... Weird proportionally. Because he hasn't done that many songs. Yeah. You know, sometimes you're like,

okay, I've got a handle on what these guys are. And then you hear a little bit more about them and you're like, maybe aliens are real? Is that what my problem is? Is that like, I just haven't opened my imagination up enough to the Nazis also being like, man, I really got to get my feelings out. You know what? It makes me think.

Alex's dad might have been the first kid on the moon. what have he brought some aliens back that would make sense so yeah his music sucks and it's really funny though because he's trying he like that is not something that felt genuine no that felt heartfelts that was that was real again it's clear that he laid down like multiple tracks of vocals

and he probably wanted this album to move you wanted to get a Grammy I have no doubt he had a conversation with somebody where he was like I know but I I feel like my voice is there. Like, I'm hitting my range. I just had a really shocked face

that some of you might have noticed. And it's because I think we could get Mike Adams to EGOT. If we force it, we can get him an Oscar. He's got to be in some documentary, right? Sure. Well, Police Day 4 is not a joke. I don't think he's in it. Well, that's definitely true.

The Tony might be hard. What musical... Vaccine, the musical. Wicked. How I cured Ebola, the musical. RFK Jr., hero? So we actually only have one last clip for folks. It's because, you know, we've come to the...

I love all of you so much. It's so confusing. I love all of you so much. We don't deserve you. We just don't. So we're doing a music festival here. We're on day two. We just got a hell of a musical act.

Yeah. And so now all there really is time left to do is thank the sponsors. Sure. Do a little bit of advertising. Apologize for trapping you on an island. Alex has a commercial here that he's doing for Info Wars team, which is their multi-level marketing scheme that they used to run. There's some details in here that I would call into question.

Oh, yeah? There are limitless ways to go into business for yourself. fraud most involve substantial capital and risk our info wars team dot com operation is different we promote premium quality health energy and skin care products using dynamic caring personalities and state of the art media technology to spread a powerful message of health wealth longevity and freedom this low cost business opportunity is designed for full time or part time so you can work as little or as much as you'd like it is you that defines the reward level where Whether you are seeking a few hundred extra dollars per month or a six or even seven-figure annual income, it's up to you. What the fuck are you talking about a seven-figure income? Seven-figure income. A seven-figure income from Info Wars team. Oh, my God.

Do you know what's crazy? So what you're saying is that there's somebody out there who's like, holy shit, I made so much more money than InfoWars today. Yes. fucking, I blew InfoWars out of the fucking park with InfoWars today. If you're making a seven-figure income as a salesperson for InfoWars team, then like, why isn't Alex doing it? Alex works for you! He's accidentally revealing that he has a seven-figure salary from this.

And all of those... Oh, my God. That's balls. You know, you know, sometimes when you hear it out loud, with a group of several hundred people, you think that might be too good to be true. I think that one might be, that might be overselling a little bit.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to lure you into being an active part of my multi-level marketing seat, but that's too hot, it's too much. Would you like to make so much money but not do anything? Don't we all?

Yeah, I went to a cut co presentation when I was younger. They're trying to get me to sell their knives. They didn't tell me I was going to be a man. millionaire. They're like, you could afford a suit. Listen, buddy. At the end of the day, you're still selling knives.

Come on. Get out of here. Your family won't like you, and you'll have too many knives. Do you want to alienate friends, but also have sharp things around you at all the time? We've got just the solution. Do you want to be extremely lonely and surrounded by blades? And probably in a couple of years. get a weird pet because you need something else

for the personality. Yep, yep. So, much like a lot of music festivals, you might leave before the whole thing comes to an end. Because after about two days, you know, it is why to go off. Traffic is going to be harsh

if you leave at the same time as everybody else. So eventually, Alex launches the Info Wars Nightly News and that's, you know, a couple days later but who gives a shit? Sure. So how do you feel?

How do you feel about what you've learned and been presented with today. How do I feel overall? You got a lot of steps in, I'll say that for sure. This has been a, I would say, complete performance. We've had a full variety show. We've had music. We've had Alex's dad.

We've had Nazis of all shapes and colors. We've had colorful Portland history. And then somehow he ended it all with a guy who was like, come on, just drink a little bowl of. Come on. Don't touch my, don't touch my junk. Don't touch my junk. That's the real message. Yeah.

What, what an album? I mean, here's the crazy thing, though. That's the most progressive message he really has. That's really what he's got. Like, I agree with it. Sure. Don't touch my junk. Fair enough.

So, we're coming to the end of our show here, but I'd like to, before we, and give a big round of applause for everybody here at the theater. Thank you so much. Everybody here at Aladdin, has been so wonderful. This has just been an absolute truth. The crew, the security, the staff, everybody has been truly amazing. This has been an amazing weekend.

Yep. Thank you so much for Portland. And thank you all so much for coming. This has been an absolute dream. It's been the best. Thank you.