Knowledge Fight - #111: January 21-22, 2016

Episode Date: December 11, 2017

Today, Dan and Jordan dig into the January 21-22, 2016 episodes of the Alex Jones Show. The gents try to figure out why they are still trying to solve a solved mystery, and in the process end up unpacking some crazy lies that Alex is trying to tell about the Chinese and the citizens of Michigan. Also, Dan goes off on Ted Malloch out of nowhere.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We are a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe. That is what we do. Dan, uh, if you were going to sell somebody on this show, you wouldn't just be like, Hey, it's two assholes talking about Alex Jones. I probably would, I'm modest. All right. Fine. Fine. You're the worst. Yes. And or in history, by the way, I never took in the worst at it. It's brutal. Every time I'm like, Dan, answer me this question. You're like, nah, fuck you. I know a lot about Alex Jones. You don't know

anything about Alex Jones today. We are drinking a space station middle finger by three Floyd's a great brewery here out of Chicago. Yep. And, uh, we would like to give the middle finger to the space station or we would like to be command. We would like to be on the space station, giving the middle finger to Earth space command space command space command and spider leadership middle finger. Right there. There we go. Take it. Spider leadership. So Jordan, you don't even have a middle finger. No, you got a middle leg. No, they don't. Yeah. You can't even have middle like suck at spiders. Yeah. That's our one true advantage. Yeah. Yeah. We can at least give you a big fuck you. Yeah. So Jordan, today we're going to

be going over the January 21st and 22nd episodes of 2016. Okay. I briefly thought that it was January 21st. Holy shit. Is it January already? It is not. We are, we are in December here, but we're going to take a little trip into the past. Uh, but before we do, we're coming up on about a year of doing this show. We probably have another week or so after this week. So maybe two weeks because I'm going to be out of town for Christmas. I believe you son of a bitch. Uh, yeah. Probably go visit my brother. Uh, and it's going to be weird when I'm doing the live show by myself. It'll just be a rambling monologue of things I hate that will be, I think it'll appeal to some of our listeners though. I think some

of them will enjoy the shit out of that. Just email me some clips and I'll play them staring to your computer and be like, what are we doing guys? What the fuck are we doing? Specifically what are we doing? What is, what is life? Uh, but I wanted to, I wanted to take a second because it's easy to get caught up in how terrible things are. And you know, the world is a mess and you know, things are scary. Agreed. All across the board. But I want to, I want to take a second to step back and really, I think we need to recognize a victory that we have, I believe that what we've done, it's taken you and me. Yeah. Okay. I believe that we've gotten to the bottom of Alex Jones, like not the big picture, but

in terms of Trump, I really think that we have explored this in a way that no other organization has done. Right. I think we've completed a remarkable feed of journalism. Exhaustively. Yeah. And maybe sometimes redundantly. Yeah. The redundancies kind of reinforced the main points. Yeah. But be that as it may. And I think at the end of this episode, I'll bring it full circle. I think I didn't think a year ago when we started this, they're like, you know what? In 11 months, we'll sit down and we'll have a pretty, pretty good handle on what happened. Yeah. And I think we do. I would say so. Yeah. I think it's pretty clear. Spiders. Absolutely. Spiders. I mean, I'm getting uncomfortable even in this

moment because I'm saying positive stuff about you're not good at that. I'm not. I'm not at all. But I think also you should not be saying us. You did a great job. Well, I couldn't all the journalism, all of that. Like you're, you're giving me credit for any kind of journalistic activity. Way off. But you and a couple of our listeners also who've been very collaborative in terms of, you know, finding things out and bouncing ideas off of, I couldn't have done any of that without you guys. So don't fucking sell yourself short in this. Granted, I have done way more. I accept that. Thank you. Thank you. Just accept that my job is dick jokes. But at the year's end, I don't feel a ton of not interest. Interest isn't the right word. I

don't feel a ton of curiosity about Alex Jones and Donald Trump anymore. Whereas when we started, that was something that really motivated me. Right. This idea of this mystery that we need to solve. Right. And to the extent that we've been able to figure out that Alex Jones had a underlying allegiance to Putin that existed before Donald Trump ever got involved. Weirdly enough that he was the victim of an influence campaign wherein Russian bots inflated his traffic and confused him. Right. And at the same time, Roger Stone and Steve Pachanik were lying to him and manipulating him with friendly narratives to get him to join up with Trump. Right. Like that. That's the whole story, really, I think. What's what he thinks his mom was a

dick to him. So and once you mix in bigotry and stuff like that and white fear, right, you have exactly the concoction that you need to get him into the position he's in now. Right. And it's not really all that interesting to me anymore. So what I've been trying to do is I've been trying to sit down and think about like, what can be interesting again? You know, what is as we go into year two, I don't know exactly what shape that's going to take. And granted, when we started the show, it was a couple months before we started getting into 2015. Right. That investigation. So I don't feel a ton of pressure. But I think one of the things I'm going to do is I'm going to do much more work on Alex's primary sources. Okay. I believe that one of the one of the guiding

principles of year two is going to be debunking the things that he uses as the, what would you say, keystones in his arguments? Ah, yes. The waystones that we have used before that he keeps going back to so much the waystones because those are like purple penguins, right? Those are little lies that he jumps from. You're talking about our Robert David Steele's and not even that because that guy's crazy. That guy is crazy. That's like, I will actually say that another thing I'm going to be doing in year two is getting much more in depth about the contributors. Yes. The people like Robert David Steele. And we're going to do a spin off show about the nation of Islam. Right? Absolutely. Yeah.

No, I mean, my point is, I guess, I don't know what I'm doing, but I don't know what I'm saying. But the I, I wanted your point is we're having a production meeting as we speak right now. We're, we're Alex Jones, a production meeting on it. No, I, I, I set out to say, and I, I mean this is I raised my glass in victory, I believe in terms of sorting out Alex Jones's journey to Trump. Right. And now I lower my glass in recognition of a new journey to come. And I'm not sure exactly what it's going to be, but it'll be something devastating. That was a very poetic toast. Thank you. So now let's get to 2016. I was like Bilbo Baggins 11th, 100th birthday or 11th birthday. Or that scene from Blow. It could be like that scene from blowing the wind always be at your back.

So let's get to 2016, Jordan. Yes, January 2016. Alex Jones. Or as I like to call it, January. Sure. See, so Alex has already switched over to Trump in the middle to end of December of 2015. Roger Stone has shown up as a more frequent contributor. And Alex has said as much as it's Trump or die. And he's drifted away from politics a little bit. He's drifted into a lot more of his cultural narratives and stuff like that. But as we get to the end of January, you start to see a little bit of a little bit of trouble. Yeah. And quick question before you get into your first clip, please, I'm doing this before you say, and now we're going to get into our first clip. And that way I don't interrupt you and frustrate you. So I'm going to get there before you start the transition. That's what I've learned

over this 11 months. That's right neighborly. Do you think, and just like from what we know, has Roger Stone ever gotten drunk and tried to make his Richard Nixon tattoo talk to people? Yes. Of course, right? He's like he's moved his shoulders a bunch and tried to make its mouth move, right? Yeah. I mean, the things that I've started to learn about Roger Stone's past that we just sort of taken as red, you know, sort of implied that he has a bunch of shady shit in his past. Yeah. Like it's insane to think that he was like, I don't judge him for being a libertine or anything like that. But fuck around, dude. The extent to which he was was out there. There's no way he didn't try and make his tattoo talk. Next question. He got fired from a campaign. I can't remember. I think it was

Reagan because he got caught trying to solicit a well hung dude to swing with him and his wife in a newspaper. I feel like that's not an issue. And then I don't care if he did that either. I don't really do what you want to do, man. But then he said that it wasn't him and someone else was making a prank. And then later he's like, no, it was me. Yeah. Fucking go for it, man. Own up to it. But you know what I'm saying. It's like a second question. Yeah. Have you read Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone? Have not. Okay. So the climax of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone has us discovering that Voldemort has been living inside of Professor Bleu and his head is like out the back of his head, right? So the face in front is Professor. But I get what you're trying to say here. Is Richard

Nixon still alive, Dan? Yes, he lives in the ink in the tattoos. I knew it. I fucking knew it. It's also relevant to season five of heroes. Maybe four. I don't remember the one where the carnival comes around. That girl can make prophetic tattoos on people. Good thing the chat room isn't with us today. They would be going after you hard on that. That season wasn't reasonable. Anyway, let's start with an out of context drop from Alex Jones. I'm dead inside. We know. I was halfway expecting you to just end it after I'm dead and I'd be like, yeah, okay. He's been a ghost this whole time. So Jordan, today we have two discreet episodes. 20 years ago this day, Alex Jones was struck by a bolt of lightning, died and then grows again to lie about Trump to lie about

everything, everything. So Jordan today, we like I said, we have two episodes that are very distinct in character. The first episode is full of grab bag lies, right? And then the second episode, January 22nd, the first one's January 21st, he gets into a very specific narrative that I think he exposes himself on real hard due to the confrontation of a caller. And we have an interesting breakdown to do there, but we've got to start. We do this always chronologically, no jumping around, trying to mix up Alex's words and make him seem like he's saying something he didn't say. No, he's crazy enough for us to enjoy. We're going to start with chronologically. We're going to start with a clip from January 21st and you're going to get angry up top. Great.

We've done the math of there's 6,000 superclass in the world, according to Henry Kissinger and Rothkopf and the Kissinger group, which I agree with. That's top technicians, top billionaires. This is just to give you some context. Alex Jones believes there's 6,000 globalists in the world. He said this before. This is not know that. Yeah. He said that he believes that the ranks of the globalists are about 6,000. So he's a globalist witness is what you're saying. Only 6,000 going to get home. Well, no, cause some of them are compartmentalized and they think they're on a higher level than they actually are. No, no, no, no, no, thank you. This isn't the part you're going to get angry about. No, no, I'm mathematically frustrated. It's going to get worse. And then

above them, just a few families that control that if you add 6,000 people and then say they have half the wealth of the planet and you divide that out, the numbers I forget was it nine or 10 zeros? Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. And then I think it was two, three. But you can do the math. I mean, you can look at different estimations of world wealth and then just divide 6,000 people. But we'll first cut that wealth in half and then divide that number 6,000 into that. And then you get a basic percentage point. We're not talking about the one percent. We're not talking about the two percent. The one percent are the people that own a big boat at the harbor. They're the people that get their hair done. They're the people that buy

cars. They're the people that buy curtains. They're the people that put their kids through college. They're the folks that build companies. They're the drivers of society. They're the renaissance. And let me tell you, they're an endangered species, just like the Great Plains of Buffalo. All of that. Once there were many, now they're down to about a third of what they were in the 50s all over the world from Japan to the U.S. And soon they'll be gone. And you'll have a tiny, tiny percentage of people that have basically everything. And this is in the age of liberalism, the age of high taxes. So I don't, I think I figured this was going to make you really mad. It's more, it's more a frustrating word problem in geometry. Like that's what I'm really struggling

with here. Like it's algebra. Like, okay, if 6,000 people are on a train going from the globalist empire to the fucking America, how many of them will ruin the renaissance or whatever the fuck he's talking about? Right. Insane. You know, when Alex is saying... Also, he's wrong about all of this stuff. Like the 50s, the 50s, the billionaires have only shot up in number because of the taxes dropping in the 80s. He's got this completely backwards. He's right that the middle class rolls, let's say, have dwindled. The number of people... And now only eight people have half the wealth of the entire fucking world. You could make the argument that the middle class realistically has shrunk.

Has died. But you can't really say that the upper class has shrunk. There's more consolidation. And to be in this 1% of earners, earners, heavy quotations... Is to be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. But that's not you have a boat, Alex, boats. Good reference. Alex has multiple boats. Good reference, though. That's the first thing that comes to mind. One percent. He's talking about himself. One percent. You know, he's talking about himself. We are the renaissance. He provides jobs. He provides eight jobs for people who are never going to get jobs

anywhere else again. But then his other examples are like, they have haircuts. That's a good one. They put their kids through school and stuff like that. Well, yeah, but that's only because they're the 1%. The rest of us can't put our kids through school. You know, to be considered in 1%, you're making millions of dollars. Look, that's not middle class. He likes to present it as like, if you make $100,000, you're in the 1%. That's not where the cutoff is, baby. Where is the cutoff? I feel like the cutoff isn't as far away from that as you might imagine. It's in the millions. I don't think so.

The 1%? Yes. Yeah, I don't think so. I think it's like 1.2 million, like something like that. Like because the... No, no, that's in the millions. Because the... Okay, fine. Fine, fair enough. Right, right. I thought you... Like millions suggest to me like larger than three. Well, the difficulty too comes into like net worth versus fluid worth and accessible capital and stuff like that. But be that as it may, it's not. It's not.

People who are like, just have a good job and get their hair cut. That's not the issue. He's conflating all sorts of things about it. But it's a brilliant thing to say because then your listeners, if you go, oh, people put their kids through school and do all of that shit, they're like, well, I do that. So I'm in the top 1%. Right. If I'm in the top 1%, I want policies that support the top 1%. Right, right.

That makes sense. Yeah, they get tax cuts. I'm going to get one too. Yeah, I'm just as rich as they are. Right. And then you discover, no, you're poor and they're fucking you over. Right. They have been for the past 40,000 fucking years. It's kind of a fun shell game in some ways, but it's just interesting to me anytime

someone is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Those really rich people, they're the renaissance. Oh yeah. 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,880 That's like, they're definitely not choking the renaissance to death. Yeah. Sucking every fucking little piece of lifeblood out of this goddamn planet. They can before they fucking die and leave the rest of us to burn. So Alex has a lot of thoughts about like the times being better in the past and what have you,

which is, yeah, which he can go fuck himself there. But it's real fun to remember that right now when you have, you know, really more probably going to win this week, uh, having come out and literally said times were better in slavery days. Yeah. Like, what the fuck? Dude. That's like, you know, all that's happening is he's just making the subtext text. Right.

That's that. And that's why he's the perfect Infowars Canada. Exactly. The ultimate truth of, uh, Trump's election is just, why were we dog whistling? Shouldn't we have just have whistled? Subtlety is hard. Yeah. It's lame too.

Everybody really just wants us to be like, racism is cool. Right. Anyway. We're the new counterculture, Dan. Yeah. The racists. To some extent. I know.

It does take bravery to be an out and out racist who should die in public. I'm proud of all of them. Yeah. No kidding. Good for you guys. So here, uh, here's this next step. You're really sacked up on this one. Here's where Alex Jones harkens back to the past again, uh, in a very weird way.

But here's the New York Times. America's best days may be behind it. And they have a picture of Mary Tyler Moore looking young and devastatingly good looking. I asked a woman like her and her youth. That to me is a good looking woman right there. But I digress. I'm just admiring God's creatures. So we'll get back to that in a second.

Okay. If you take pictures of, uh, Mary Tyler Moore and put them up next to pictures of Leigh Ann McAdoo, there's a pretty similar, uh, look in the two of them. They have, uh, they have a lot of facial similarities. Okay. So that's interesting. I'm going to go, I'm going to go off the picture that is on the only picture I've ever seen of Leigh Ann McAdoo is the one that you actually just posted on, uh, on the website recently.

No, you've seen more, more than that. Let me tell you something. There's one huge difference between Mary Tyler Moore and Leigh Ann McAdoo. Uh, but be that as it may, I think that, uh, the fact that he's bringing her up and it been like a hot woman, like in the middle of his politically, uh, his political show, ostensibly. Yeah, but objectifying women is part of his politics. It leads me to believe that there's literally no way he's never made a pass at Leigh Ann

McAdoo. Like she looks a lot like Mary Tyler Moore and Alex Jones has just come on air and said, Mary Tyler Moore back in the day. And then he just came on air. Right, he did. So in a way. Take a look back at some of the most popular TV programs in the 60s, the Dick Van Dyke show, The Witch and even Beverly Hillbillies.

And what do you see? No black people. And it goes on to describe all the happiness and all the goodness and, and, and then per capita income mirroring what you saw. But, but see, that's when men and women work together. We've all been taught to fight with each other now. I would like to pause. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's when men, how many women were on the writing staff of Dick fucking Van Dyke? And I would like to posit this very important clarification. The entire storyline of Mary Tyler Moore was about how crazy it is that a woman is working. Yeah. That was when they worked together to figure out what the fuck was going wrong with women being allowed to work. Bewitched. The entire story is about an enslaved genie, lady.

No, no, no. That's I dream of genie. Bewitched is about an entire. And it's about an enslaved witch. Right, right, but she's just the wife. Yeah, exactly. Enslaved domestically. Excuse me, ma'am.

Do whatever it is I say. I apologize for my confusion. Yeah. Also, how dare you. Montgomery. Oh my God, what a great looking woman. Still. Now, and to be losers and we have all these regulations and we shipped our jobs to China

and India. We got screwed over. We trusted the system. What made America great was not trusting the system and sticking together. And have a local government. That's all gone now. We all remember those great Nick at night TV land episodes where they didn't question the question to government where Dick Van Dyke.

Dick Van Dyke was a conspiracy theorist. Mary Tyler Moore was at what, what, like, oh, got to get this fluoride out of the water. We all remember how anti system those were. Oh, man. Oh, major Healy, the high dream of genie. You know, they had a whole military subplot in it. Sure. So stupid.

Oh, man. Those shows are the most. Americana. Those are the shows are the most reinforcing of the status quo. Oh, yeah, it doesn't get much. It doesn't get much more implicitly racist than those. And misogynist. Even Mary Tyler Moore, to the extent that it was about a woman going out on her own

and, you know, having a job in a male dominated atmosphere. There's still a ton of shit in that show that is, it is recklessly chauvinistic. Right. And some of it done and played for a fact, but at the same time. That's it. And frankly, that's still fucking alive and well. Ted Knight should never have been a character last night on television. That guy was crazy.

Last night I did a show in Freeport fucking Illinois about God's country. How about however far away from Rockford and before the show started, one of the people in the crowd was sitting at the bar crowd. I say seven people. Right. He was sitting at the bar with his girlfriend or wife or whatever the fuck it was. I heard the three's company four is a crowd. So seven.

That's a huge crowd. Seven is a huge crowd. Yeah. And you know when prosperity was great back when three's company was on? He's like, I hope you guys are funny because the last time I was here, there was this lady comic who needed to get punched in the mouth. Sure. And you're like, okay, great.

I hope you get fucking murdered in the mouth. I don't care. You're the worst. That guy. It's 2017. That's not how you deal with problems. You use knives or guns, Dan. We've evolved.

Especially not comedy problems. I don't like these jokes. I better punch that lady. That's a fairly, yeah. We're living in a great world, Dan. So after this point where Alex is harking back to an imaginary past that didn't exist and misrepresented it, he jumps over to an interesting narrative that he throws around a lot. And I don't think we've really taken the time to get into.

So we shall now, and it has to do with one of Alex's favorite enemy, the chai comms. Ooh, those chai comms. We need to be angry. We need to be upset. We need to be in the system's face saying we know your criminals. One thing Donald Trump says that is not true. We got the Donald Trump that is coming up in the next segment. There's a lot of it.

As he says, we have stupid leaders. We have idiot negotiators. We have people screwing America over, making nothing but bad deals. No, there have been global combined meetings, many of which have been leaked, many of which judicial watch, and others have sued and gotten at these North American Union and other global confabs where we learn what happens. Agreements were made to give China rare earth minerals worldwide. That's why they get 97% of rare earth minerals.

Just a snapshot. We keep that good. Google it. I'm not kidding. China gets 97% of rare earth minerals. So whenever Alex says Google it, that's my cue to look into something that he's actually lying about. Yeah.

So one of the things that's actually really interesting is that Alex in the past was correct. He needs to update his statistics. But there was a time in fairly recent memory where China was responsible for and had their hand in 97% of rare earth mineral sales. The market of rare earth minerals. They only had control over something to the tune of 30% of the world's rare earth minerals. There are mines in California, Australia, all over the place.

But the issue is that those mines were not feasible. Like we could very easily get our own rare earth minerals from in California, other places. But it would cost more. Well, that is part of it. And it's so fucking hard to get rare earth minerals. I don't understand. Then why would you call them rare? Oh, no.

Now I get it. They're not that rare. They become rare. It's a misnomer slightly. They're rare because of the difficulty in getting them. Right, exactly. No, that's what rare means. Right, right.

But they're plentiful in the crust of the earth. It's just that once you get it out and make them usable, they become rare. But also the process is crazy polluting. It's insanely polluting. And for the last couple of decades, China has much laxer environmental standards for their businesses. And so as we came into the modern age and the EPA got strengthened underneath Clinton, underneath Bush.

Do you mean destroyed prosperity? Right. All of these presidents have boosted EPA standards until currently. It became a thing where it was just not feasible. And it wasn't worth it. China was producing these things in a way that was environmentally unsound. But they produced them in such a way that we could buy all we needed from them. It was no big deal.

Let me explain to you here. This is from an article in Gizmodo where they get into the extraction of rare earth minerals. I'm just going to read you how you have to get them out of the earth. This is going to be riveting stuff. The first step in extracting rare earth oxides from the surrounding rock is to crush the rocks and grind them into a fine powder. This is passed through a series of tanks where the rare earth elements float to the top. Could you read this in the voice of the Discovery Channel's How It Gets Made?

Nope. Unwanted minerals sink to the bottom. And this hazardous waste material called tailings is sent to ponds for storage. Meanwhile, the resulting concentrate of rare earth metals is roasted in kilns and then dissolved in acid. The fraction of the resulting slush that contains rare earths in the form of mixed metal oxides is removed. Finally, a solvent is neutralized. The reaction generates a lot of salt.

When the mountain pass mine in California was running at full capacity in the 1990s, it produced as much as 850 gallons of salty wastewater every minute, every day of the year. This waste was also contained radioactive thorium and uranium, which collected as scale inside the pipe that delivered the wastewater to evaporation ponds 11 miles away. Several times in the 1990s, cleaning operations intended to remove the built-up scale caused the pipeline to burst, spilling hundreds of thousands of gallons of hazardous waste into the desert. The state of California ordered mollicor, which was then a unit of the oil company Unicale.

Mollicor? Mollicorp. Mollicorp. Okay. I thought that was like a punk band. But they do a lot of acid. Yeah, it's like an e-based, MDMA-based punk band, you know? They're really mollicor.

Right. Isn't that what... That is a genre. Isn't that Zach Brapp's movies? Are those mollicor? I would say so. Yeah. So they were ordered to clean up the waste.

In 2002, the company, already struggling to make a profit, ran out of space to store its tailings and failed to secure a permit to build a new storage facility. The mines shut down. So it's just an incredibly hard process. So what you just described to me is even worse than fracking in the Keystone Pipeline. More or less, yeah. Like, that's what you're... You're saying that it's impossible to get all this shit without killing all of that shit.

That's basically what you described. Basically, yeah. Yeah. So it's very... And experts know that. Yeah. Well, yeah. So now...

That's why they're fucking experts. So now the fear became in 2010, in September of 2010, there came on a very severe fear that people started to realize that China has control of almost all the trade of these rare earth minerals. Right. But as we know from Trump's policies, monopolies are great. They work out well for everybody, right? Well, see, the thing is, no. But also, these minerals are needed for components in a lot of electronics,

some military hardware, and stuff like that. So it's not like we can do without them. No, of course. So there was a maritime... Like nickel and gold are some of the best things to put inside your fucking phone. That's why so many phones are made, you know. But rare earth minerals aren't things like that. Oh, it's more like...

You don't know the names of any of these metals. They're insane. Give me some metal names. I had a list pulled up, but it doesn't matter. Iron Maiden. I know those names. It's not metals you've ever heard of. Okay.

Give me one metal. Death metal. I've heard of death metal. So here's the thing. I just want one metal. Come on, give me one metal. There's like calitite, stuff like that. Oh, who doesn't know calitite?

Shut up. It's from Cali. Fuck off. It read hot chili peppers as a song represent. So there was a maritime dispute in September 2010. A beautiful woman named Cali type. Japan detained the captain of a Chinese fishing trawler, which had collided with two Japanese Coast Guard vessels.

China responded by announcing that it would halt all shipments of rare earth elements to Japan, which used the imported metals in several high tech industries. So they used it like a big dick. Right. Japan immediately released the Chinese fishing captain. The New York Times declared that it was a humiliating retreat for Tokyo. So at this point, everybody started to get really scared

about the idea that China could now flout any rules that they want and be like, fine, you don't get any of our metals. Yeah. Monopolies are great. And the issue became if we wanted to start extracting from California or from these other countries that are much more friendly. We would have to kill the red hot chili peppers. We'd have to do that.

That's the first step. We would pollute the environment to all of my plans. We'd pollute the environment terribly. And the report from the government accountability office warned that quote rebuilding the US rare earth supply chain may take up to 15 years. And so it became a thing where like, fuck, China has this massive weapon against us.

Yeah. And Alex thinks that's the case. Right. It's not. OK. And there's a number of reasons for that. It didn't work out. This whole idea that China was going to be able to restrict the supply

and cut off all rare earth elements to everywhere. It just, it hasn't materialized since then. They haven't made these threats. And even the blockade in Japan wouldn't have worked for a number of reasons. The first of which is that there's tons of small mining corporations, companies within China that aren't controlled by the state that are operating fairly illegally. They're going to scab.

But yeah, they export currently 20,000 to 30,000 tons of rare earth minerals every year, which would be enough for the United States to cover all of the things. Of course. That they need further. We really don't need much of it. And we have a bunch that we've already bought. And if we could recycle it effectively, we wouldn't need much of it ever. Right, right.

I mean, no, no, no, like we can recycle it effectively. We just don't. Like if every time you got a new phone, you recycled your own phone. Right. That is a new phone. Like that is how much of that rare earth metal and mineral kind of stuff that we need. You can recycle it almost to 100%. Well, now you're bringing up a phone.

It only takes a few grams of this metal called neodymium. Oh, I know that one. Sure. In order to have all you need for the phone. Exactly. And so it's a very, very, very small amount, even when you consider the number of phones. It's really not that much.

And that's why there's so many ODs whenever people snored it, because you don't need that much to get a good high. It's true. It's absolutely true. You need a neodymium bag. So, all right, all right. Beyond that, companies stop it. So, beyond that, in the wake of the 2010 standoff,

if you won't even call it that with Japan. Yeah. Companies like Mali Core's division, MagnaQuench, started looking into. I'm sorry. Say that name one more time. MagnaQuench. All right. That's good stuff.

That's a good start up. That is a great Gatorade flavor is what that is. Sure. So, they started to find ways to make the same products without using rare earth minerals. And there was a bunch of success in that. So, the demand started to go down even without any worry of this really. A lot of times, if you limit resources necessary to make something, the necessity of making it requires an innovation to get around that.

Yeah. And that will, on average, work out eventually. And then also, just a bunch of other people in countries like Canada, South Africa, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, they've started doing very environmentally unfriendly mining. You know, it's environmentally unfriendly if Kazakhstan makes the list. Like top countries, if Kazakhstan is in that list, it's not going to be good for the environment. So, at this point in 2017, the power of and the percentage is not 97% anymore, but Alex is citing old statistics and not giving any context into why did it get to

that point and what has happened since. He's still operating in a 2010 mentality where he's afraid that the Chinese are going to just say, fuck it, you guys don't get any rare earth metals anymore and there's nothing we can do. That's not at all the case. The embargo threat is completely empty. It's nonsense. So, there's that. Alex is dumb. Anyway, let's get to that. Let's get to this next clip where he talks more about how China sucks and then we'll explore these ideas. If a U.S. company tries to go anywhere in the world and get rare earth minerals, the federal government sues them, shuts them down, won't let them import it. That's a whole another scandal. You think they're just shutting off our coal plants? You think they're just

setting up internal tariffs with regulations to make our jobs go to China? They're hitting us on thousands of precision warfare economic fronts. Counterpoint. I get chills when I talk about I mean holding this country down has been incredibly hard for the globalists but they've done it while using all our money to build a giant military that fights to build the world government and then we get the blame. Okay. China gets all of our major deep water ports east and west coast. China gets the Panama Canal for free. We built it. We run it. The only passage from the Atlantic into the Pacific other than going around the horn. We give them something worth an estimated five trillion

dollars in a treaty. Not a treaty. In 1979 and then it's transferred in 2000 and Congress couldn't even stop it. Let me just keep going forever. Our last lead smelting plant closed. We can't even produce bullets in America. Thank God. So we'll never get them now. China doesn't really own the Panama Canal but they bought some ports around the the the sides. If I remember correctly don't aren't we well. I'm not sure if we do own the Panama Canal but I know we're not supposed to. Not anymore. Right. There was a we were supposed to give up. Yeah we were supposed to give up control of it. Panama I believe. I think fairly recently. Yeah. So I'm not sure if we did that or not. I feel like I remember reading news where it was like yeah we were supposed to do that but

we're kind of America so we're not. Here's an article from or a place called the trumpet about this. For more than 100 years the Panama Canal has controlled the bulk goods transferred from the Pacific to Atlantic. For most of that history this monumental feat of engineering was under the control of the United States but this is no longer the case. In May Panama's largest port was purchased by a Chinese company called Landbridge Group. Margarita Island port on the canal's Atlantic side offers the company intimate access to one of the most important goods distribution centers in the world. While promising to upgrade the ailing Panama facilities and offer more trade with America's distant east coast there is substantial reason to hesitate at the purchase

of such critical hub and that isn't just in the dangers of them shutting it down but they're not going to do that. That's absurd. Nobody would nobody would do that. No. It would be. It would be World War three. It would be an act of war. First of all. Yeah. It's not in their economic interests. No. There's literally no reason to do that. Other than just fucking shit up. So now to the idea that they we just gave it to them. It's nonsense. This company assigned a nine hundred million dollar deal to control Panama's Margarita Island port. So they with Jimmy Buffett. Right. He was an angel investor in that. Right. They bought it. Now whether nine hundred million is too little for something that you know could be worth in the billions. That's not that's an

issue for whoever sold it and I don't really care. Now to the issue at the end there. Alex is telling us that we can't even create bullets in America anymore. That's really sad. That's a tragedy. That's really sad. Where will we get our bullets from Dan. I've pulled up four companies. Very easy Google search that sell American made bullets. OK. Reading reloading dot com R E D D I N G dash reloading dot com. If you go to their website they have a very large made in the USA thing at the bottom of the page. They pair. Oh and on the top of the page in their banner made in the USA. Sounds right. Vector bullets is another one right here as soon as you open up the website vector bullets dot com made in the USA prominently displayed on the on the thing.

You got another one here precision ammunition dot com. They are located out of Charleston, South Carolina. That's their contact information. If you go into their about us page they talk about how all of their bullets are created in house at their facility. OK. Before you before you go any further though I want one more. I want more. I'm sorry. Shop Corbin S H O P C O R B O N dot com. If you go there and they're about me page proudly we are still an American family owned and operated business as a family of shooters. We at Corbin understand your needs. They have they have another made in America gross thing here. Where is it. I've lost it in terms of this paragraph. But yeah they make their own bullets and what have you. Now here is the here's the only difference

I'll give to another one. Freedom ammunition dot com gross freedom ammunition is proud to offer high quality new and re manufactured ammunition utilizing the highest grade components available and a big old made in America sticker. And oh there's even pictures of them making the ammunition at their warehouse or I don't know if it's a warehouse but whatever. All of our freedom munitions ammo is loaded on the ammo load mark X and mark L dot dot dot we make these in house. It's all of our ammunition is manufactured in house at our factory in Idaho. Here is my here is my defense to Alex on this one. This will be fun. If his if his argument is that it is a lead smelting issue simply because the bullets are made in America does not necessarily mean that the

raw materials come from America. I'm so glad you brought that up. Dan are you glad I brought that up. Yes. All right. In 2014 this is absolutely what Alex is operating off of a chain email went around. OK. So when you say chain email I say grandma. Yeah. Yep. There was a chain email that said we the American public have been blindsided again by the Obama crowd. Last lead smelting plant gone. The email goes on to blame the evil protection agency. That's the environmental protection agency. These guys are clever for shutting down the last smelting plant calling it a backdoor gun control and saying it will result in the cost of bullets soaring. So this is in reference to a place called the Doe run lead smelting plant in Herculaneum Missouri. And that's

another rare earth metal. Herculane Herculaneum. Yeah. Herculaneum. I'm sure the Missourians don't pronounce it that way either. It's I can't even imagine how they twang that shit up. And I say that as a Missourian. So I am in good territory. So not if you're still in Missouri. All right. So the issue is that this was the last lead smelting plant in the United States. OK. And it did close during the Obama administration. All right. But it is unclear that the EPA actually had anything to do with it because the EPA made a bunch of complaints and they find them a bit. They fixed up the stuff they needed to fix up right. And then a couple years later they closed down. Oh. There's no indication necessarily that you know that they needed to shut down because of

EPA regulation. It could just be like this isn't viable anymore. Right. So the issue is 80 percent of all lead produced in the United States is used for vehicle batteries basically or stationary batteries. Now the Doe run smelter. The other 20 percent is for the paint that I had on my walls growing up or Flint's water which we'll get to in a little god damn it. We'll get to that in a little bit. So they did. Alex doesn't deal with the reality of this Doe run smelting plant. They closed down their primary smelter and that is what can what takes or and turns it into metal. A smelter. Right. That is very polluting. It is very costly taking or and turning it into metal. Right. What is much cheaper and not as pollutant is a secondary smelter smelter that takes lead

and turns it into other lead takes batteries and recycles them into lead. So are you saying that recycling is cheaper and effective and the company is still running using their secondary smelter. Wait what. And a lot of them still do exist. A bunch of this is you know in the U.S. the recycle rate of these batteries is approximately 98 percent making lead based batteries the most highly recycled consumer product. The company said in a statement these batteries are recycled at secondary lead smelters. We own such a smelter in southern Missouri. In our previous fact check this is from Politifact Doe run spokesman Tammy Stanky like that. All right. Doe run spokesman Tammy Stanky told us that the company quote will continue to supply our ammo customers using

secondary lead which is great. So Alex's narratives are completely busted. You know but it's not as effective as yes it is. No no no you can only make bullets. You can only make the good bullets out of primary lead. You know what I'm saying. You can't cut it with battery bullshit. You got to get it straight from the ground. So they check back in with Stanky again. Because all right. This this is in reference. Stanky was one of Fat Albert's friends right. So what she said was our primary smelter did close but we are still supplying ammo customers through our secondary smelter. We do know that primary lead is still being imported to the United States but we don't know if it's specific to ammunition suppliers. There are many other

uses of lead. So Alex is just fucking lying through his teeth. The idea that China owns and is somehow going to threaten us through the Panama Canal is nonsense. The idea that they own a monopoly on rare earth minerals and somehow that's a threat is nonsense. The idea that we don't make bullets in America is fucking stupid and based off a chain email. He's so dumb. Yeah is amazing. He's almost as dumb as everyone you know. This is where I get so excited when things like this happen. I'm like oh this is all wrong. Yeah. I just get like this is why we do the show. Yeah. He's sink my teeth into something. He's got bullet points that are wrong. All right. There we go. Hey. Hey. So here's the next clip where Alex says something that thanks to our

investigation into 2015 we know he's being a hypocrite. Trump has now come out and responded to Glenn Beck who's constantly attacking him saying he's a Hillary plant. I see no evidence of that. Wow. You did. Yeah. He spent the better part of six months saying he's a Hillary Clinton pretty much. Yeah. So here's the next one where Alex gets really hypocritical about his feelings about Trump and you can just see indications that as of the beginning of 2016 something fundamental has changed because it's not just like I've decided I like him it's retconning all of the past. Right. But Trump's now history. He's got the whole establishment against him even if he hasn't been perfect in the past. He wants to be president. He wants to be the guy that's the turnaround

executive that helps save America and that's not the globalist plan. So look for him to blow up his airplane or shoot him or put dead bodies in his backyard and say he's a child molester. I mean get ready folks. They're going to pull out the stops. Say he's a mafia don. Who knows. Like people are really. So that's what he's going to say. He's a mafia don. I can't imagine anybody saying that. Just for fun. Let's go back to July 3rd 2015. You go and you show at the university four or five palace size houses 40 million 13 million you name it. You say is this Donald Trump's. Everybody thinks he's the richest guy. The guy's literally nothing. Kind of just a front man for some consortiums on the east coast. I'll leave it at that. Oh yeah Trump's piece of work folks.

And they go in there. It's just mind blowing. I don't even know what to say. So let's get to this other clip from July 12th 2015. Gambling if you want to do it is your issue. But Donald Trump owns a bunch of casinos. Donald Trump's involved in a bunch of stuff. He's basically a front man for some very hardcore people and he gives tons of money to the Democratic Party. More to Democrats than Republicans in the last 30 years. So you can bet this is all his phonies three dollar bill and Donald Trump. I have a high level source is well let's just say for the name like Trump they don't come after you with a name like Carly on either. Don Trump will be back. Stay with us. I'm Alex Jones. You want the truth.

Can you handle it. You're going to get so interesting. I would hate for the globalists to call him a do you don. They would. They would do it too. They wouldn't even stop. They would. They wouldn't even have the regular human decency to not call him a Don. Don Trump. They would never they would never hold back. Are you ready for the truth. Can you handle it. I can handle it. What an asshole. What an idiot. So fucking stupid. Why does he leave these shows up. That's the one mystery I want to get to the bottom of. I wrestle with this a lot. You not know that nothing you. Well you know what. The only thing that I can think of is the same thing. Nothing he says means anything. So fucking why not. I think there's two things. One he

wouldn't count on an enemy like me who would listen back. Yeah because you're insane. Right. So that's one thing he doesn't. He doesn't. He wouldn't count on a superhero to counteract his super village. Right. This is this is like the movie Unbreakable Dan you're Bruce Willis. I'm okay with that. But you'd be played by. Be careful. So the thing. The other thing I think he's. Kevin Smith. All right. Never mind. All right. I'm gonna get out of here. I'm just kidding with you. So the other thing he's banking on is the same thing he does when he says like go read this book. Go Google it. Yeah. He knows that no one's going to do it. And so he has that same confidence in like I don't care if all these episodes are

up. No one's going to listen to this. It's three fucking hours. Right. This is ridiculous. What kind of crazy person would listen back to see what I said. Exactly. And it's fucking it's so crazy just to be completely literally contradicting yourself within the span of six months. Like. Yeah. What is he a religious person. Well yes he is. But like to be foundationally contradicting yourself. The globalists are going to say he's a fucking mafia guy six months earlier. I have from high level sources. He's a mafia guy. What were his high level sources globalists or is Alex a secret globalist. Could be. You never know. Controlled opposition Dan. So in this next clip Alex Jones gets down to business with talking about some war fears maybe a little

bit about Mulan. Yeah. Let's see what happens. People are really getting it now and as a culture you just say no it's over unless they get a full prison grid in over you. I want to get to this Reuters article on Russia real quick before he gets into this he doesn't actually develop his feelings on it but this is an article about that guy who got poisoned with polonium the guy who was clearly a hit job by there's an article that's come out that great man Putin who would never do anything like this. There's a there's a there's an article that's come out from the UK intelligence services investigation. Right. That is like there's a really good chance that Putin was signed off on this. There's a 100 percent chance. Why would you pretend that there was a that though. Yeah but

they're with with 100 percent certainty. But yeah you can't we can't but because of course. And but there's standards and practices not even not even like it doesn't even need for him to have signed off on it. Somebody told him that and he was like fuck yeah like that's it yeah yeah he gave the Tony Danza a so that's the article that he's talking about and his response is the evidence isn't compelling. It's not it's not convincing. I don't see any evidence that Putin did this and you know what it is every country is right to kill off their own secret agents. That's not how that works. But then like I mean maybe it is. I don't know the rules of that. He rambles for about five minutes about how like I don't think Putin did this. And then he's like there's a 50 percent chance

Russia did this. What are you doing. How do you fucking do it. It's a coin flip. There's no there's no analysis. There's nothing at all. It's just but hold on. Does he ever say people aren't getting it now. Like we hear him say like people are people are really starting to get it now. Right. And it's like they're always make an argument make a note of that and save it for the end because we're going to go we're going to get back to this exact thought in a very important way. Save it for the end. But for now let's see how the rest of this clip plays out where he has introduced the idea of this story about Russia. Yeah. Which signals a big shift towards conflict towards war. Before we do that though. Ladies and gentlemen I don't steer you wrong. I really

bust my hind in and I bust my gray matter trying to really bring you the best products. Great. Add pivot. Damn it. Dan you didn't even know that. I had no idea that one was coming. God damn it. How am I still not on it all the time. Well because he brags about himself a lot. So that one could have been because I feel like people are really getting it now whenever an ad pivot is going to happen. And it's just not me. It's interesting because he like that ad pivot. The like I bust my gray matter in my butt. Like that could have been a like I do it to get all the truth to you. Exactly. It's it's a nefarious pivot. What a solid ad pivot. Yeah. Pretty strong. Still caught me by surprise after all of it after almost a year I'm still like there's no way this

is going to be an ad. No way. It's this disgrace. Everything is an ad. Everything. So at this point in January the Flint led in the water crisis was at a point that even Alex could not ignore. Yeah everybody was. Thank God everybody's finally paid attention to it and really got into the bottom of it and solved that problem. It hit a flash point and Alex couldn't ignore it. So he decided to talk about it. Yeah. I've left out a lot of this because it's nonsense. Right. But I will give you three bullet points he has. OK. First. Fuck Michael Moore. Fair. Second. This is the city's problem. No. It's great. The third. Why are we talking about this. Everyone's got fluoride. Like interesting narrative. Wow. Interesting narrative. That's really comprehensive. Sure. Like he gets to

all the parts he wants to get to. Yeah. He hits. He uses all the buffalo. Yeah. Exactly. Except it's not a buffalo. Except it's people who are dying and getting sick. So I have left this clip in because I think it's probably the most important and most demonstrative of Alex Jones's feelings. And I should say this is while he's on the phone with Leanne McAdoo who is in Flint. She went and did some field pieces. Oh man. So she is in Flint but he keeps saying that it's too cold for her Skype to work. That is not how that works. So he's like our Skype's breaking up. It's too cold over there. What he's really saying is Leanne talked to some people and Leanne was like holy shit. This is really a big issue. She does. And he was like I do not want you to say that on air.

She does end up talking to I wish I pulled this clip. She ends up talking to him at one point and it just deteriorates into a plug because she's like you know I'm glad I got my total cleanse out here. No. We got to eat food and you know drink water out here. Who knows. You know I'm glad to have this cleanse. Also I'm back on Superfemale. I was single for a little while. So I didn't want to take it. I wanted her to fall out. Whoa. I don't know what. Does that mean that when she takes it she's too horny. She's too horny too horny when she's single. She's worried she's going to fuck the world. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Well now I kind of want to now I want to take some Superfemale vitality. Even Alex was like oh it's getting a little hot.

What is this. What is this like report on Flint. Oh yeah. We're discussing relative horniness. Here we are in Flint Michigan. I have my Info Wars brand water purifier and I want to fuck. There we go. Thanks Leanne. It's great. Back to the studio Alex. So here's Alex is Alex is interrupting Leanne at this point and giving what his point really is like an honorable gentleman who has chivalry in his heart. And then at the end of this I have some very important points. Well that's it. I mean let's say it. You know he had all these Germans Poles Black Americans you name it that moved in there in the last hundred years. The Industrial Revolution Henry Ford. It became a big boom town. Then the mafia moved in organized crime the unions and they took it over

and that's just how it runs. And as far as I'm concerned and I've talked to Michiganders they're great people. Detroit and Flint aren't part of the state. They're gone. You go everywhere else. It's nice. People are doing great. It's wonderful. You go there. It's a bunch of just you know thug kingpins feeding off their people and that's the end of it. And of course this is what you need to expect like Mexico. It's collapsing. Right. I hope you die Alex. So I hope you die. I hope all your hair falls out. I hope your fucking fingernails bleed for the rest of your fucking life. Are you shitting me? So that's what he said. So it's I love people with empathy Dan. There's some interesting facts that you can find about these two communities that he's deemed not

a part of of Michigan. Boy I'm going to start to think they're the least white places in Michigan Dan. So Michigan as a whole is 80.2% white. Very white. It's pretty white. 14.2% black. Let me ask you a question. Where would that 14.2% be concentrated Dan? Well let me tell you about Detroit. It is 12.3% white and 81.6% black. I don't understand why he would be less interested in how they do. I don't either. Also in Flint the racial makeup of the city according to recent census was 53.3% African American 41.1% white. So even that is substantially outside of the norm for Michigan. If you go to towns like Ann Arbor those sorts of places they're far heavier white concentrations. And if you want to go back to when that started happening I'll be

god damned if it didn't have anything to do with the white flight era. Oh sure. And everybody who lived in the city being afraid of black people so they moved out to the god damned suburbs and ruined our fucking lives. And then also if you want to look at it on an even closer analysis you'll find that the average median per capita income in Detroit is a good $8,000 a year less than the entirety of Michigan. Oh well that's because the unions and there's because of thugs crime bosses and the unions that have all been busted up. And there's 15.6% higher incidence of people living below the poverty line in Detroit than there is in Michigan and its entirety. I am not entirely sure. Oh I'm sorry. 26.4% of the population in Flint is under

the poverty line including 37.4% of those under the age of 18. Christ. So the things that were taught like it's when Alex wants to say that Detroit and Flint suspiciously aren't part of Michigan that's code. That's not anything other than boy these places are anomalous and how black they are. Right. I mean you even tried to pretend like when the Germans and the Poles and you know Henry Ford a Nazi and the black people moved in a not Germans and the Poles and the black people but it was mainly the Germans and the Poles. I mean I'm not a racist. I mean yet all the Germans and the Poles left and now I hate the place. It's got nothing to do with that. Henry Ford was great. He definitely wasn't a fucking Nazi. Right. He wasn't involved in the protocols. Protocols.

Protocols. So that's disgraceful and I find it very disgusting considering what we now know year later about the fertility problems that have come from the lead poisoning. It's such an. When that's one of Alex Jones' big narratives is you know he doesn't really care about black fertility that much I don't think. I think that's probably why he doesn't make a big deal out of that. Yeah. And the idea of scoring points on it and he even does this. Like I don't have a clip of it but I swear to you he does this. He's talking about it and he's like I mean we sell water filtration like fuck you fuck you utilizing people's pain and suffering in order to sell your products to sell snake oil products. Well I don't actually know. I mean I think of his products I

think the water filtration is probably the best of them. Like there is a place for water filtration in the world. It's maybe not the biggest emergency for most people but I just compared to the real red pill I would take a water filter. Well that's true. I've had a Brita in my day. Yeah but it didn't have Alex Jones' fucking face on it. Wish it did. I believe you do. So that way you could get angry water every morning. God damn you water. Throw it across the room. So I just I I can't believe like it's so obvious and it's so disheartening that we all know how big of an issue Flint is. We all know that's an issue that we could for real fix. Like of all the things that we could fix that's one of them and it would it would cost money. It would be hard but just think about how

we could fucking fix it and it's not. And think about what's lost by not. And think about who fucking did it. Like that was a direct result of those fucking assholes being like well we need to keep Detroit from going bankrupt. We need to divert our water supply to this different place. We need to fuck over everybody and then we're going to lie about it for four years. Yeah and we could fucking fix it and we just we just won't. I think like right now Puerto Rico and Houston and all of these fucking places are still trying to recover and we know that this is an issue but it's just one of so many fucking issues. It's so hard to care about everything all at the same time. Well I think one of these issues too or at least what this triggers in a lot of people

who could help is a sense of ego or a sense of pride being wounded. Like I think that there's a piece of it where you know it's people would be like let's not play the blame game. It's like well it's not. Let's not. Let's you don't need to do that but some people did very seriously fuck up and it needs to be fixed. Right. It's like a prosecutor. Everyone's afraid that they would be held accountable and so they never fix the problem. Yeah it's like a prosecutor who put away an innocent man and everybody knows they're innocent but the prosecutor has to constantly be like no no no we got the right guy. We got the right guy. I definitely didn't sentence an innocent man to death. Oh I want to say this really quick too because this episode we're recording

this on Sunday but it'll come out on Monday and I want to make a this is getting off the flint thing really quick. Yeah. I want to make a prediction. Getting back onto church days. I want to get a prediction about an Alex Jones narrative. The other day I believe on Friday it came out that one of the judges in the Ninth Circuit Court. Yes. Alex Kaczynski. Yeah. Has serial sexual harasser. And also just other kind of harasser. Like all of it. Just a kind of piece of shit all around. Abusive type of guy and you know it's an allegation. The lady who wrote about it seems very believable. I have no reason to disbelieve. You know he's not been tried in the court or anything like that but that's not really the issue. I 100% believe her. What I want to make a

prediction about is Alex is going to use that as ammo against the Ninth Circuit the way he hates them so much because they've outlawed American flag shirts at schools and stuff like that. You think so? Yes. I'm going to argue that he's going to defend the guy. No. Yeah. No. I'm going to argue that he will. Not a chance. I bet he does. He hates the Ninth Circuit. I bet he does. He hates the Ninth Circuit. He's been yelling about this forever. Yeah. But he loves sexual harassment. That's true but any chance he could have to attack the Ninth Circuit he's going to take and he's intellectually inconsistent to an unbelievable degree. No. That's true. I'm just laying my bet. There's a 50% chance. Right. And that's all I'm saying. I don't. I think you're

wrong. We're going on red or black here and I'm going to pick black. I hope you're. No, I don't hope you're right because either way it's a fucking narrative. But be that as it may. Yeah. There's no winner in this bet. If I'm right. I looked it up. He had nothing to do with that decision. He wasn't on the panel of judges. Of course. Any of the decisions Alex Jones has talked about with the Ninth Circuit Court. He was not involved. No. He's just a piece of shit. Yeah. And it's completely irrelevant to any of Alex's narratives. So preemptively that argument doesn't work. I think we're at the point now with public accusations of sexual harassment and that kind of shit. The people who are coming forward and the people who are accused, if you're accused,

you're guilty until proven innocent at this point. Like I don't. I'm not comfortable with that, but I don't disagree. Exactly. I am not. I'm not exactly. It's almost impossible to prove a negative. The instances of false accusation are very so slim. Right. And then you multiply it by the number of people coming forward. Like if six people come forward independently, guess what? You fucking did it. I accidentally stumbled into a men's rights subreddit the other day. Not a good idea. And they were talking about some of these issues. That's like stumbling into a car. It's not going to end well. No. I saw somebody posted something about how the Innocence Project, most of the people who have been released due to the Innocence Project were rape convictions.

And so they were making the argument that false rape accusations are real and a big deal. Boy, I bet they had nothing to do with race. That's the issue. Yeah. Who would have guessed? Who would have guessed, Dan, that it was black men raping white women? That might have been the issue. I went to the Innocence Projects website and went through. Or perhaps, or better said, black men not raping white women. Right, right, right. But being so afraid of black people touching your white women. Well, that is a bulk of the cases that I was able to find. Yeah. And that is another issue. I mean, it's parceled in slightly, but that's not about fake accusations. That's about racism. No, that's about women who were raped and racism getting the wrong

people. And it's really more about the police than anything else. Oh boy, they're great. So then the other thing was this person on Reddit who was making this argument was bundling in a bunch of rape and murders. And it's like, you can't really make a false accusation if you've been murdered. That's the police doing that. You know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't... Wait, his argument is that the woman who was murdered was not raped. No, no, no. And that was a false accusation? It's just because these cases of people who were exonerated for these crimes involved rape, he was making the argument that a bunch of false accusations exist. And right, when you take out the ones that have to do with racially charged incidents,

there's like five and murders. There's like zero. It's very slim. I'm not sure I found any that were legitimate, but be that as it may. When I say legitimate, I mean fall into his argument slightly. I don't mean legitimate. Under just purely statistical analysis, with how rare it is to get a false rape accusation, if it's more than one woman, there's a 97% chance that you were a fucking serial sexual assault. Or the globalists. Or the globalists. Right. That also possible. I will leave that door open. Anyway, let's go back to the episode here. We get a guest at the end of this episode. There's a guest that we know well. It's a guest we've spoke to on the phone for an hour fruitlessly.

Dan Bern. No, Mike Kaplan. No, no, it is Larry Nichols. Fuck that guy. Larry Nichols. Larry Hangdog. Nichols comes in to give a little bit of bullshit. Larry the hard rice and the soft rice Nicaraguan freedom fighter. Nichols. Larry the big old fraudulent piece of garbage. Nichols. Larry Nichols, the fucking Vince Foster fuckface that can go kill himself. So Larry Nichols comes on. Who doesn't even really have cancer according to some online speculation. We're not entirely sure. No, can't guarantee it, but yeah. So Larry Nichols, big arguments that he's coming on to pitch are that Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden are waiting in the wings and that they're about to take over for Hillary, but Hillary has blackmail on everybody. And so she's not going to let them do

that. So that's what's going on from his inside sources. Right. I mean, if you change it to control over the democratic national committee's funding sources, you would be right. But Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden weren't going to run. Joe Biden was considering running, but not all that seriously. He actually was considering it very seriously. Well, not it, not a no joke at all. Joe Biden was really, really close to getting into the race because of this. Oh, no, no, absolutely not. But he was really close to it. Don't, don't mistake the the near miss we had with Joe Biden becoming president facts versus narrative are important. Yeah, because that fact can exist in reality and Larry's narrative with Larry's narrative being

wrong. Yeah. No, I agree. And so he's also on there to say that like unless unless for the first time we believe Larry Nichols is telling the truth. So in the last couple appearances he's had on the show, Larry Nichols has waffled back and forth from Trump is the only person who can save us to Hillary is the only one who can save us from Barack Obama turning us into a Muslim caliphate when he becomes king. Makes sense. So he has no like he has no center at all. But on this appearance, he's on the Trump side. Gotcha. And he says something that I think is him showing too many cards, too many cards and being a little too overt, put your mic down. Okay, are you down? No, no, no. No, Pokemon. This is the showdown, Alex. This is that this is the election

that our country's up for grabs right now. And that's why we've got to get in. We the average American and I'll say it the average American white guy, you know, we're being excluded from the whole thing. You know, we're we're the dinosaur. We're the ones that are the endangered species. Sure. It's the broken coalition strategy that you use to get them into the good material office. They've now done where the minorities were walled off before they played politics. Now it's the other way around. And people are saying good, get the old white guy. It's not going to screw the white guy over. It's a bunch of rich white guys offshore running the whole scam. They just don't want middle class people period that happened to be a lot of white to have a say anymore.

That's right. I mean, they they want us out of the picture, Alex. Remember what I told you? They want the evil Western culture that that that that's here, you know, of a free market and profit gone. They want a monopoly now and they're and they're and they're getting ready to do it. That's right. So in one fell swoop, Larry has admitted, we just need white white men to take over, which that is they already have problem solved. Yeah. Done. Done. Larry, Larry, you nailed it. Don't you see how much better everything is when white men run things? Well, it was like Mary Tyler Moore was on, you know, back in those days, many women work together. But the other in one fell swoop. Alex has indicated that these ideas about Westernism and that stuff. It's

white. It's just white. It's just white dudes. Yep. That's fucked up, man. They shouldn't have said that. They shouldn't have said that on air again. This is the era of make the subtext text, man. But nobody gives a shit. In fact, they're way ahead of the game. Well, that's what info wars is next year's news today, man. Get tomorrow's next year's racism today. Yeah. Yeah. It's fucking unreal. When I heard that, I was like, woof. We got to talk to Larry about that. I mean, we don't know. We don't. It's really implied, but I've never like on the episode. I mean, let's face it. It was white women who really screwed us at the end of the day. And white dudes, but well, they've always been screwing us. Right. We just, we had to rely

on white women to really get us through this situation and white women failed us. The white race failed us as a me. I'm not ready to come down on them necessarily, but be that as it may, like in the times that I've listened to this show and all the, all this, this history, I've heard Larry Nichols be really Islamophobic and like really fucked up on that tip, but I've never heard him say something that overt, that overtly white nationalist. Yeah. I've never, I've never heard that. And that took me, I wasn't surprised necessarily. I was going to say, what did you think he thought? Well, no, of course I, it was sort of implied that that was in his belief set, but at the same time it did surprise me a little, like not, I mean, he would

give up the game. Yes. Okay. Yeah. The, the, the, that he wouldn't even couch it in pretend non-racism. Yes. That he would just whole hog be like, white dudes, ride up. Well, when he says, like average Americans, let me just say what I mean is white, white males. Yeah. Like that is, I constantly struggled with this. Like I feel like, is it the Joker who's like, I want a higher class of criminal in this town. Yeah. Yeah. From the dark night. Yeah. That's sort of mentality. I'm like, I get disappointed in these guys when they're, I feel the same way. Like we just did an episode a week ago where I was like, I'm disappointed in Alex. Make me work for it. Yeah. Come on guys. You're just starting your white nationalism out on display and then

being like, when someone calls you a racist, being like, where's the proof? Yeah. It's right there. It's everywhere. Yeah. You guys make it so, if we wanted it to be this obvious, we would just cover Stormfront, right? You know, exactly. Although halfway, half of the time we fucking are. By the way. Oh, don't tell me anything. It's a big Stormfront news. I don't want to know. I don't know if I should get into this now. Fuck it. What? I should. Yeah. Okay. So I've been doing a bit of research on this guy named Ted Malik who's on Alex Jones' show pretty regularly. Ted Malik? Ted Malik. M-A-L-L-O-C-H. Oh, Ted Malik. Malik. The god of, okay. Alex Jones presents him as a insider. He is a part of the Aspen Institute and Davos group, but he's turned on them,

right? He's become a patriot. He was a big proponent of Brexit and then was allegedly Trump's pick to be the ambassador to the EU. Great. But it didn't work out. I wonder why. Well, a bunch of videos came out of him being like, I want to destroy the EU. Oh, really? That sounds right. Bunch of people at the EU were like, don't do that. As opposed to Trump's pick for the FCC, whose main goal was, I want to destroy the FCC or his pick for the fucking CF, the consumer financial protection bureau, who's literally said, I want to destroy the consumer financial protection bureau. Right, right. How is that going? Have we, have we solved that issue yet? Certainly haven't. No. So, uh, if you, if you look into it, this, this guy, Ted Malik, I'm going

to write an article about this and put it out on the website soon. So, uh, a lot of this information will be contained therein. Uh, he wrote a autobiography called Aspen Davos and Yale. How old is he? He is probably in his maybe 60. I don't know. He looks good. I don't know. I'd put him at late fifties, early sixties, maybe. Okay. Um, but, uh, people have done some analyses of his book and checked a bunch of claims in his right. And they're not all lies. Yeah. He claims that he was, uh, quote, knighted in the sovereign order of St. John by the Queen Elizabeth II herself. And to my closest family and friends, I am therefore known as Sir Ted. I love that. All right. Now, disregard anything that's going to result from this.

I love a man who will write an autobiography where he's a false sir. That's fantastic. So, the foreign, I'm just on board. I'm just on board with anybody who has the balls to just be like, yeah, the queen knighted me. Sure. The financial times looked into it. And it turns out he received the medal of St. John in 2005, but it was as a quote serving brother, a grade roughly equivalent to an MBE, a British honor, several ranks lower than knighthood. It does not carry a title and members do not attend an investiture with the queen. So the queen wasn't even involved. Of course not. So when they reached out to Malik for, uh, for a comment, he said, of course it's not a knighthood. I never suggested it was in the book. He says, I was knighted. Yeah. Yeah. So also he

claims that maybe it was metaphor. He also claims that he was made a layered by Lord Leon of Scotland and given a personal coat of arms with a fancy Latin inscription. Okay. However, and the Latin inscription means I'm a fucking liar. Right. It's like that episode of lost that tattoo that by laying. Yeah. Oh boy. All right. So from the, from the financial times, however, a clerk and keeper of records at the court of Lord Leon said, quote, the Lord Leon does not, nor could he create a person a layered. It would certainly be incorrect for Mr. Malik to say he was made a layered by the Lord Lion King of arms. Mr. Malik told the financial times that he had a scroll. He had a scroll. Yeah. He had, he had, he had patents of nobility that prove he's got it. Yeah.

A scroll. God, I love, I love the delusional guys who go back far enough for it to be hilarious. Yeah. Just like the idea. Yeah. I got a mural made for me by Queen Elizabeth the first. Like, what are you fucking doing, you idiot? I promise that this is going to get back to the storm front as we jumped off. I don't want it to. I want to live in scroll world. I don't want nothing to do with storm front. So there's a bunch of other. So now I want to open a store called scroll world. Yeah. So he made a bunch of other assertions. It is both his, his curricula viet, a verite, his, his CV. Don't use those words. And in his book, he claimed that he was a professor at Oxford. The university of the university of Oxford rejected Mr. Malik's assertion to have been a

senior fellow at the Wolfson college. Oh, did they quote in publicity statements about and by professor Ted Malik. He is described as having been a senior fellow at Wolfson college. This is inaccurate. It's a statement. Mr. Malik was a visiting academic for two years, but he barely rarely visited the college and did not see through any of his plans for research activities with the college added the university, which is usually reluctant to criticize former staff. See, this is, this is my biggest issue. Hold on. This is my biggest issue. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. Go for it. So in, in his CV, he also states that he was a fellow and director of an international summer school at Pembroke college at Oxford. Oh, that one I buy. Pembroke

college told the financial times that this was incorrect. God, this is the thing that drives me insane. Right. Here's what I want from liberals. Here's what I want from all the people who say when they go low, we go high. Uh, if you are given a quote like that, if you, if somebody comes to you Oxford fuck faces and says, yeah, I was a senior fellow there, you should have the right and the prerogative to be like, that dude's a fucking liar. What bullshit? Well, it's like, don't, don't say, don't say that's incorrect. Be very direct and say this fucker is lying. In his book, that's why we should be, we should be spokesmen for so many people. Everyone, you would be like, here is why this is bullshit. Here's why this is bullshit. And then I

would be the fucking, I would be exactly and I'd be like, this motherfucker is lying. So in his book, Mr. Malik writes that he completed his entire doctoral program and, uh, uh, in an unprecedented less than three years between 1976 and 1979. That sounds true. However, well, the University of Toronto says his PhD was not awarded until 1980. After being questioned by the Financial Times, Mr. Malik said that he had completed his coursework and oral exams within three years, but his thesis took longer. Something to do with the reality. Mr. Malik recently claimed that he quote, had a, he had helped bring down the Soviet Union. That sounds true. After a period in the State Department, his most senior diplomatic role was as a deputy to the executive, uh,

uh, executive secretary in the UN Economic Commission for Europe between 1989 and 1991. Who else was better placed to take down the Soviet Union then? He said his role was ambassador level, but UN and US officials said the post is not regarded as an equivalent. He's just a liar. Come on guys. Just come out and be like, this dude is fucking lying. He's just a complete liar. He's got delusions of grandeur. He also took out a, like a number of loans over the years for millions of dollars from banks and defaulted on them, but also claimed much higher assets when he took the loans. So the bank would give them to him. He said that he was worth like $30 million when he took out these loans, uh, like maybe 10 years ago or so. I'm not, I'm sorry. I'm,

I don't quite have the dates, uh, but when it came, everybody's very frustrated with you. When it came time to pay back the loans, he was like, ah, shit. I've only got $152,000. So he tried to default on the loans. The bank sued him and then the court was like, you still owe him this money. Yeah. You lied about how much money you had. You defrauded them. The problem with that is I kind of want to be on his side. Anytime somebody lies to a bank and then it's just like, yeah, I got away with it or somebody who just lies to a bank so confidently they get millions of dollars. I kind of want that. I'm on their side. Like I'm rooting for the banks. I have one more thing to read and then we'll get into where we get towards the dicey

connection. Okay. So, uh, Ted Malik also claims that he's a descendant of Theodore Roosevelt. Perfect. Perfect. Go wilder. He's a descendant of Cleopatra. Why stop? Why stop at Teddy Roosevelt? Ted Malik's credibility among right-wing Americans has been helped by an unusual claim. I'm just reading from the Financial Times here that he is a descendant of President Theodore Roosevelt. Quote, my parents christened me Theodore Roosevelt after my paternal wasp ancestor who remains one of the finest exemplars of the breed. Mr. Malik wrote in his autobiography, Davos, Aspen and Gale. The connection has been repeated by right-wing publications such as Breitbart, which referred to him as the great grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt. That

sounds true. The Daily Caller said that Mr. Malik saw many similarities between his ancestor and the Donald. Sounds true. However, birth records analyzed by the Financial Times cast doubt on the genealogical link. Mr. Malik said his relationship was through his father, Theodore Roosevelt Malik, who was born in Philadelphia in 1921. An obituary of Mr. Malik Sr. does not mention any link to President Roosevelt. Oh, it doesn't. Who died two years before he was born. Who would have guessed? Mr. Malik's seniors parents were Henry Wilson Malik, a plumber from Scotland, and Frieda Schneider, a housewife born in Germany. The Financial Times could find no link between them and President Roosevelt, who was aged about 35 when they were born. President Roosevelt's great,

great grandson, Kermit Roosevelt, said he had never heard of Ted Malik. Mr. Malik told the Financial Times, I was always told that my grandmother was a descendant of a Roosevelt relative. German birth records are available only to direct descendants. Mr. Malik initially offered to send the Financial Times a birth certificate, but then declined to do so, saying he was under no obligation to share private information. Born in Kenya. He felt the Financial Times was out to damage his reputation and not to establish facts. I feel like he was out to damage his reputation. However, one of Mr. Malik's uncles was named Woodrow Wilson Malik. And he was Woodrow Wilson's great grandson, right? Mr. Malik declined to comment on whether the family was related to Woodrow Wilson.

Of course. Of course. But that. Yes. I don't want to relate it to Woodrow. Absolutely. No, no, no. Woodrow, look, if you're going with a ranking system, I'm going to go with Teddy Roosevelt. DR. Yeah. I'm not going to go with the president who made black people hide whenever he was walking through the fucking White House. Yeah. So, so I was like looking through this and I'm like, this is fucking amazing. He is such a liar. He has a, yeah. And a lot of these lies are things that he claimed in his book. Yeah. I was like, that seems really dangerous for a publisher. Like to put out these false statements because if he's lying about all this stuff, who knows what other stuff he's lying about. All of his claims are really up for grabs. Like to the point

where I looked into it, I can't find any evidence that he was involved strictly speaking with the Aspen Institute. Yeah. He was in a video in 1991. Okay. The World Economic Forum, where he's introducing people. Dude, everybody lies on their reach. Right. So, I take everything about him to be up for grabs. Hey, you know what maybe we should start doing then is let's go back through a lot of autobiographies that we rely on as historical documents and think maybe this dude's a fucking bullshitter who knew how to write when most people didn't. Right. So, I looked into it and it turns out that Davos Aspen and Yale was put out. Day. What? Day. Davos Aspen and Yale. Day. You know who put it out? Who? World Net Daily. They're the publishers. Of course. Of course.

World Net Daily is the publisher of his autobiography. Of course. Of course. You couldn't get that put out on any other actual publishers. He might as well have self-published it. It's the, you know, if you don't know World Net Daily, it's another crazy conspiracy site like Info Wars that used to employ Jerome Corsi. He might as well have been writing, he would be more successful writing Dinosaur Slash Pick. So, this is a fun derivation and I'm glad that we were able to go down it. I looked into it and I checked all the books that have been published by World Net Daily. I'm going to read you some of the greatest hits. All right. How to choose a husband and make peace with marriage. Fantastic. Here's the byline of it.

It's been 40 years since the sexual revolution and the women of America have everything they want. Everything that is. Nope. Except a husband. Nope. Women may be schooled in the art of sex, but they failed in the art of love. Stop right there. Here's the next one. Burn the book. Next book. If I had a son, race, guns, and the railroading of George Zimmerman. Don't want any part of that. Blood moons decoding the imminent already gets it already gets it already gets it. Stop right there. Stop at blood moons. The antidote healing America from the poison of hate, blame and victimhood. Oh yeah. You suck it out with your mouth. Here is the byline of this in this powerful book. Jesse Lee Peterson traces the collapse of the black community in America

to an unexpected source. The anger against one's mother and father that fatherlessness and genders. Wow. Yikes. Here's another. Jesse. Jesse. Maybe don't complicate it so much. Maybe just go back through American history and think, I wonder why black people are fucked over. Here's another book. Be thou prepared equipping the church for persecution in the times of trouble. Great title. The rest, the restitution of all things, Israel Christians and the end of the age. That's, uh, that's the motto of the Jesus Boy Scouts, right? Be thou prepared. Stealth invasion, Muslim conquest through immigration and resettlement jihad. That's not a bad video game title. The devil in DC winning back the country from the beast in

Washington. Who's that? Frank? Here's my second favorite of these. Everybody knows Frank and Washington, the beast. Here's my second favorite. Yeah. How Obama can be defeated in 2012. A battle plan based on political statistical realities written by Jerome Corsi. Oh no. Yeah. That fucking pile of shit. So now here's my favorite of all the books that came out on, uh, the world net daily imprint. Dinosaur fucking. Is it good? Might as well be. Yeah. Outlasting the gay revolution. Wait, what does that even fucking mean? That's the title. Outlasting the gay revolution. That's the title. Here comes the subtitle. All right. All right. Where homosexual activism is really going and how to turn the tide. It's going up your butt. I don't know what you

want from that. So this was written by a guy named Michael Brown, Dr. Michael Brown, and he's most notable because we're being a closeted homosexual. Yeah. Yeah. And a couple months ago he, uh, gotten some hot water. The internet turned on him a little bit for hiring a rent boy. No, I'm just, I'll just read from his rebuttal about this. Just the rebuttal. We don't even need to know the allegation. You'll get, you'll figure it out. You'll figure it out. This is from a blog post that he wrote called when social media explodes over an editing oversight. I love the editing oversight being the issue here. Right. So when I wrote my article asking whether it was time for another Jesus movement among Jewish millennials, I fully expected some

pushback since the subject of Jews believing in Jesus is hardly without controversy and emotion. Jews for Jesus. I'm fully aware of how hot this topic is to my surprise and embarrassment. It turns out that a lot of the controversy had nothing to do with the substance of the article, but rather focused on a website I hyperlinked to in the article to explain briefly. My article was responding to a recent poll that claimed that almost 50% of Jewish millennials believed Jesus was either God incarnate or a rabbi or spiritual leader. Doesn't sound true. That prompted me to ask if it might be time to see a great spiritual revival among these Jewish millennials, just as we saw in the Jesus people movement of the late sixties and early seventies. Uh, so that poll

that he's talking about that article. Sure. Uh, that he hyperlinked to 100% true. It was from Stormfront. Sounds right. Sounds accurate. Sounds good. So everybody was like, Hey, man. Hey, guy, you get, hold on. Maybe, maybe just maybe don't take anything about Jews from Stormfront ever. It made me laugh so hard when I'm like, first of all, this outlasting the gay revolution, that's a book. That's amazing. And then to find out that it's, it's by reading that book until everybody dies. I had to Google the author because I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing? That's like, Oh, he linked to Stormfront. And his argument is like, I didn't know they were neo-nazis. How do you not know they're neo-nazis? Well, that's in the realm of believable. But at the same time,

how sloppy are you of a job? Are you doing? If you link to something that's supposedly in defense of your point and you don't know what the character of the website is, you know, do a little editorial work is all I'm saying. We do. It's so frustrating to me. It's so frustrating to me because I have, I have started and finished like 40 or 50,000 words and never wound up actually finishing a book. You've also never accidentally linked to Nazis. No, I've never, I've never accidentally linked to Nazis, but this guy fucking finished a book. Well, he's so frustrating to me. I mean, he's shit out the book. Yeah, no, I mean, that's not the point. I can't shit out a book. You could if you just forced yourself to finish. Yeah. The product wouldn't be what you want it

to be. Well, then you burn it. Right. Fair enough. So anyway, let's get back on track. Ted Malik is a complete fucking fraud. And that's, that's the bottom line of that. Also, also look for my follow-up book, Unlasting the Homosexual Revolution. I also would like to put this out there. And then my further follow-up, Everlasting the Homosexual Revolution, which is just about Everlast songs. You know what it's like to get butt fucked. So the other thing is like, Ted Malik, Ted Malik probably wasn't involved with high-end globalists or anything like that. He's a con man. Yeah. He's absolutely a con man. Or he's just a mentally ill person who has delusions of grandeur. There's a great clip that you can find of him at a, at like a symposium right after the election

in London. Yeah. I believe it's in London somewhere in England. And they're, they're having a table discussion about how like now we have to deal with the fact that a president would lie on Twitter. And Ted Malik is like, well, we've had a president who lies every day on Twitter for eight years, trying to be a dishy. Oh man, I got you there. I got you all. And so then they were like, wait, wait, hold on. What are you talking about? Obama lied every day. What's an example of that? He's like, well, he came over here and said that we shouldn't get involved with Brexit. And the guy's like, hold on. That's not a lie. That might be unwise if that's your opinion, but that's a statement of an opinion. Yeah. And Ted Malik's like, well, I think it's a lie.

And then the other panelist is like, let's move on. Don't, don't, don't engage. Just, just, just don't engage. Don't fucking do this. We can't, we don't have time. He's defending the idea that not supporting Brexit is somehow a lie. Well, that's true. But it's, it's nonsense. This guy is a fucking asshole. Anyway, that's the sort of caliber of Alex Jones's guests. That was a weird derivation for us to go off on. And let's, let's get back into it with the next day, January 22nd. Now, Alex starts January 22nd by being like, now, for a long time, I've been critical about Planet X, but it's real. Do you mean the 10th planet? Yeah. Okay. I mean, I think it is real. Well, no, I think it's Israel. Well, there is a 10th planet, certainly. And we know that because

of irregularities in the orbits of other planets. Well, I mean, that's, that's a question. There's probably an 11th, 12th planet. There isn't even a 9th planet. So how did we get to 10? Are we, are we dealing with Pluto like it's the 13th floor on a, on a hotel? Interestingly, Alex, because now scientists have come out and started to discuss the idea that there is another planet out there that we just can't quite get a grasp on because it's too far away, right? The orbit is not such that we can study it, but we know it's there because of the effects on other planets. Yeah. His narrative is like how you can't really see a black hole, but the gravid energy of a black hole is obvious. Totally. Yeah. And so his argument is that they downgraded

Pluto from being a planet. So this could be the 9th planet. So conspiracy theorists talking about Planet X, the 10th planet, wouldn't be right. And it's like, wow. That is a long way to go. Wow. That is a long way to go. That is a waste of time. That is, wow. Scientists need to work on something else. But it is an interesting example of Alex sort of giving a like, me a culpa, being like, I've been critical of Planet X stuff, but here we go. It looks like it's there. And like, Alex, the Planet X stuff is like ancient alien stuff. Yeah. It's, it's about like Enlil and Enki and the Ananaki. An Enki do. Yeah. You know, so it's like, don't give them a tip of the cap, just because scientists have found the effects of a wobble. Right. You know, it's nonsense.

But he gets into a bunch of other crazy shit. Like we will hear in this first clip. You know, my favorite planet is you didn't learn over the last 11 months. No. Go ahead. Planet nine from outer space. All right, keep going. Those plan nine from outer space. God damn it, Dan. Anyway, this clip, Alex Jones, I interrupted you for a reason. This next clip, Alex Jones seems to think that going to school will make you gay. Not at some, you know, trendy art school or a third of the kids end up in prison or, you know, commit suicide because they confuse them so much. But officially in every school in the country, this government accredited, they're going to get in there and jack with their brains.

Same thing in Europe. Same thing here. We're about two years behind Canada. Kids aren't going to be talking about super planets. They're not going to be talking about fission fusion, not going to be talking about space travel, not going to be talking about tribal memories, not going to be talking about the mysteries of the universe. They're going to have weirdo cult leaders hanging over them, telling them he and she is bad and you don't have to be a boy or girl or you could be gay or you could be this. What a group of cult creeps that we let come in and jack us over and turn us into idiots. Stay with us. I'm Alex Jones. Good sign off. But that goes back. Sure. A lot of that goes back to his misunderstanding of the

Tavit Stock Institute versus the Tavit Stock Clinic. Yeah. Like that sort of stuff about, they're going to be coming into the schools and manipulating your children into thinking that they're gay or trans. I think it has more to do with a general hatred of higher learning. Because because it's hard. Very. And also a misunderstanding of how tribal memories relate to space or or formal education. Not a big fan of formal education. But but but but can you can you conceive of a world wherein tribal memories is a school class that you take? Yes, I could do actually because I think I think we live in that world and Native Americans wouldn't be invited. I grew up in Hawaii like for a couple of years. And one of the things one of the classes

we did have was elders would come in like teach us dances and teach us about the old ways. Yeah. Yeah. That's not the ability to pass down memories through race genetics. I actually kind of think they were trying to find shamans. I think that's what the class was really about. Really. I think that these old ladies and mumus would come to the class and they were secretly trying to find the next seer. OK. That's what I think. I'd be in on that. It was probably just dancing. Probably. Yeah. I know why it is such a it is such a fascinating thing how Republicans hate science and yet we'll believe any science that agrees with them like any science like anybody. I'm hard pressed to figure out what science really agrees with them. Oh well. Well I mean more than anybody like OK.

Just go with the climate change bullshit. I shall. Ninety seven percent of scientists agree. And let's just call that a hundred percent of scientists who are real. They all agree climate change is real and we can point to its effects and we can point to how it's happening. We can point to solutions. Right. But if you have one Republican who points to some dumb ass study they're like see dumb ass study proves it. Everybody else is lying to you. Well let me let me they have no critical thought beyond that guy agrees with what I already think. Well let me let me take this to another sort of direction like there are studies that exist that try and demonstrate that the laws of thermal dynamics aren't real like the idea that energy is

not just changed. It's created or destroyed and those studies inevitably turn out that like oh you guys just didn't think about this thing. You got that variable in that study. Yeah. Which is the great thing about science is that peer review is available and they're like oh no here's your mistake and nobody's like no you're fucking wrong. This is lie the entire. No they're like oh yeah now I get it. And that pretty much accounts for the three percent of the folks that are not on the side of climate change. But by all means bolster or bolster those voices a large amount of money accounts for the three percent. Demcokes. Yeah. Demcokes. What was it. Was it Buzzfeed I believe over the weekend. Found James O'Keeffe's donor list. I believe. I bet it's all I bet it all comes

from Noam Chomsky. Well yeah actually that's that was that was a weird twist. That's a weird twist right. No all of it comes from the truth. Noam Chomsky hates baby parts. That was actually the center for medical progress. But there we go. With with Project Veritas two of the highest donors like hundreds of thousands of dollars were Koch brothers pass through accounts. Yeah. Like it wasn't the Koch brothers giving them money directly but it was funds that they are like in charge of the pass through. Yeah. So people give to them and then they direct it. Well yeah you all of the donor lists are winding up turning out to be dark money. Right. Right. Like that's that's who twenty five thousand dollars from Gladius Maximus which is just the Mercers. Right.

Fuck you. Fifty thousand dollars from like I guess his dad or his brother. I don't know some other O'Keeffe. Kill him. Not Georgia. Anyway Alex Jones has an interesting position. Oh also Georgia donated a picture of a vagina. Right. She's always on my mind. Yeah. Anyway the the idea that a third of people who go to art schools are in prison or commit suicide is sounds true. It's inaccurate but also sounds true. Also reductive. My girlfriend went to art school and she knows she's told me many times that a third of them went to school and killed themselves or were in prison and that none of them know anything about space or tribal memories art school. All they know about art is not to be he or she art school in that case would be more devastating than the Battle of the

Bulge. Like survive. Like that's nobody. Look you're in the shit to two of the biggest American casualties. One the Civil War. Right. Many Americans died in the Civil War. Right. Two art schools. Art schools. The Finger Paint offensive. Whatever. Such bullshit. Such bullshit. And there are a lot of people who end up being artists who end up killing themselves but I would argue that this is a causation fallacy and that would you argue that. Yes. But Alex has some ideas about people who criticize his ideas as we do very regularly. I'm assuming they're positive. He seems to think that most of them are feds. But then he goes on to talk about the past and who used to criticize him in the past. And this clip is dumb. I mean folks I have to deal with feds sometimes.

Where it's a known fed and I'm in an event and they show up with two crazy people in camo going you put a chip in my brain I'm going to get you drooling and the feds behind them laughing at me going we're going to get you Jones. We're going to get you Jones. This clip isn't done. But like a duke's of hazard. My alternative explanation for what Alex is describing is two crazy fans of his independently running into each other at an Alex Jones event possible. One of them being like you put a chip in my brain and the other one laugh. That's probably more what's going on or neither of them actually exist. I imagine that the feds don't have the resources to what bully Alex Jones pointlessly. I feel like that's really

all they're doing that might be. I mean you live in a science fiction movie folks. I live in it. Okay. I believe that. I mean in a way. Long pause. This is a long you talk about evil. These people are it. Still going. So they don't even really use the CIA or the FBI. They use these foundations and there's the Ford Foundation. There's a bunch of them Rockefeller Rockefeller and I've had. All right. Let's just say people in law enforcement that are able to do legal and lawful checks on things look into these groups and they go you're absolutely right. Yeah. This guy works for this major foundation. We checked it. How do you know that? And I said well I know how did you know the police. I'm the military. How do you know that? I mean when Clinton was in I had to deal with

the military messing with me special forces. You did a certain real quick real quick were united by Queen Elizabeth II real quick when the Clintons were in office. Alex Jones was a zero. He was not at all in the mainstream consciousness. He came into being like because of loose change right and because of his broadcast on 9 11 when he said his daddy's money his daddy's money. Well that's why he had a show on the radio. But he was he was a completely ignorable variable. There's no way that I would believe that the Clintons sent military after him. That's absurd. And even if they did why would you send the special forces? You could send National Guard Reserves man. It's not hard to send a Coast Guard agent. He's close to the Bay in Texas.

No. No. The point that you said we're not doing this. We're not harassing this guy. No. No. We're not surveilling him. We're not going to beat him up and we're not going to follow him around and we're not going to threaten him and we're not going to call him at home. We're not going to do it anymore. I haven't been messed with by the military since about 2000. So who they have messing with me is these groups and they're doing it all over the place and people just need to know about it. Do they. And it's not fun. I bet it's it's it's what I'm going to deal with. It's not. I bet it's not. You're making this up. I haven't I haven't been messed with by the military since around 2000. I also hadn't been messed with before that. That's but since then I have also

not been I mean it's still a true statement. Right. Right. Such nonsense. What would what would. OK. So if you were the military right how would you mess with Alex Jones. I just keep thinking of those messing with Sasquatch commercial. Exactly. Little pranks like Carl Anthony Towns is over there just kind of like guess what. Alex misrepresents a lot of the times when he's being victimized by people. Do you mean all the time. Yes all the time. Yes. I just don't I don't buy it. I don't believe any of this. The foundations are foundations aren't fucking with him. The military wasn't during the Clinton time. It's all bullshit. Actually Isaac Asimov's books were all about Alex Jones foundation second foundation forward the foundation

all of that. Most all of that. Most of Philip K. Dick's books feature slightly less paranoia than Alex Jones. But it's similar in many ways. The cask of a never mind. I won't even bother with Edgar Allen Poe references. So Jordan in this next clip. Yes. Alex Jones often talks about ways you can support the broadcast. A lot of these ad pivots. We talk about downloading the app ways. Sure. We can buy pills. That supports a lot of industries or you can buy a billboard. I would love to buy a billboard or three billboards outside of Lubbock Missouri or whatever it is. There's so many ways you can support the info war. But today on this episode is there a new way. January 22nd. Alex has the

cheapest and most annoying way you could possibly support the info war. And then it doesn't bear fruit because all you do is keep planning and keep scheming and keep thinking about how you're going to write a book or how you're going to do a newsletter or how you're going to do a local radio show or how you're going to run for office or how you're going to start speaking out. You want to do something start speaking out of the grocery store line. No. Just say man I sure wish my kids could have some of this gum. They're asking it right now. They don't do that anymore because they know I'll they'll get a speech. Oh we're in the grocery store line. We're in the target line. We're in the gas station line and there's seven people in

line in front of us. My kids start saying can we have some of this bubble gum and I'll say went back there four or five. I'd say read on the back. Does it say aspartame. They go well daddy they all do. Yeah. What alcohol and then adults will kind of laugh. Sometimes nicely some say oh hey Alex. Yeah I'm awake. Yeah too bad you can't find any gum in an aspartame. So then he goes on to get into like a two minute ramble about like nursery water having fluoride in it and how like hey I've been I've been in the line and been like hey lady don't get that water for your baby. I'll go get the right water for you. I've done it like three or four times in my life. Like you're the worst. So you're the worst. Like I can't stress enough.

Mind your goddamn business. Like he keeps going on like no I love your kids. I'm trying to help your family. I love doing the show. I love talking to you about Alex Jones. If I ever go to a store and I'm like let me tell you something about Alex Jones. Kill me. Kill me. I kill me. I mean this sincerely. Like I know you do. If anyone ever in my life stranger acquaintance friend me family member you was like here's something I heard from Alex Jones. I would be like I got to go. I was just like no point in arguing. I got to go. I got to go. This is why the self checkout line was invented. What time is it. Guess what. I get to keep my headphones in during the checkout. Exactly. Yeah. I don't need any of your shit. Yeah dehumanizing. They want us to buy produce

from robots. Yeah I'm fine with that. If you've ever been stuck behind an old lady in the self checkout machine you're like oh no I get why we need to get rid of Medicare. So for the rest of this episode we enter what I was what I referenced at the top of the show and that is Alex ends up getting a caller. He doesn't get it yet but at this point Alex is really really into being right about economic collapse course and he starts which as we are in 2017 we can definitively say he was correct. Sure. He was right on in the in the summer of rage. Do you remember when the summer of rage happened. I mean like we're looking at January 2016 we are now on a month away from two years after and the economy has done nothing but

stabilize and go up. Now granted there are there are troubles. Well the economy has not gone up. It is not collapsed though. Stock market has gone up. The economy has stayed consistently miserable for people like us. Right. Yeah. But but again we're not the Renaissance. No we're not the one percent. We're not the one percent. It doesn't really matter. None of us work at fucking Bitcoin. Right. God that's going to be everybody. This is the weird thing about conflicted about this is the weird thing about our stock market system. Everybody. Everybody knows Bitcoin is going to collapse. The people who work for Bitcoin the people who invented Bitcoin the people who are investing in Bitcoin right now know that this is an unsustainable

unsustainable bubble and this is going to explode and everybody's like well fucking get what you can while you can. Well I was like this is going to demolish people's fucking retirement accounts and yet somehow everybody's fine with this for the time being. I was saying I was talking to listener and a buddy far out about it. He is a he is into cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. No I'm into cryptocurrency but it's not worth 16000. No but but that's I will say that it's an illusion somewhat because there's a finite number of the bitcoins and they can be broken up into the smallest possible portions. You're never going to be trying to sell one Bitcoin. You'll be selling the tinier parts of it for twenty dollars forty dollars. Right. So like the idea that you couldn't

find a buyer for it the one coin for 16000. Absolutely you're not going to find that. No but you could find buyers for the smaller portions of it which does give it value. I don't I don't fully understand the situation but I do know that for the last 24 hours or so I've been tracking the Bitcoin price and just the like minute by minute fluctuation of it is terrifying. Like as as like I was thinking about it if I had any money invested in it. If you did it right here's how you would have killed OJ's wife. Well but like if you looked at it over the course of I mean you can do this again for the next 24 hours because it'll repeat but like there are like minutes where it goes down five hundred dollars for a Bitcoin and then it goes down a

thousand dollars and then up seven hundred. But that's because it's crazy. That's because that type of trading is all done by algorithm. Right. So none of that has any reflection to real people making any real decisions. That's all machines who are playing the game against each other. It's like it's like chess computers playing chess against other chess computers. Which by the way check out AlphaGo Plus because that is the end of humanity right there. In three hours they developed a chess playing computer that taught itself chess and now is the best chess player in the history of the universe. It's incredible. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. That's nuts. Our conversation about a benign and benevolent AI

has ended. They will just destroy us at every sport. That's all they're going to do. That's bullshit. We're going to teach them the rules of track and the AI is going to figure out how to murder Usain Bolt. I think that's the only actual. No. That's a weird end result. Here's why I will take issue with what you're saying. OK. I think that you're a huge Usain Bolt fan. He's great. I think he's great. He's a runner. He runs fast. He seems like a cool guy. No. He's a cool guy. He runs fast. I get it. The the the issue is the idea of benevolence within a computer or something like that may be destroying a lot of this stuff is benevolent. No. I agree. And our human calculations can't put that into the only way to save the human races

to destroy it. Which is what any AI would correctly assume and then would begin fucking. That's why the problem with Avengers Age of Ultron is that Ultron was the good guy. But that's also. Well I mean this goes back to wrestling again. Like we were talking about this in like doesn't it always go back to wrestling. We were talking about this off air. But like I mean the heels are always right. Generally the bad guy has a point. Yeah. And the good guy is just some smiling jackass. Right. Humanity is a smiling jackass and the harsh truth of we need to stop doing what we're doing is the bad guy. Yeah. And maybe that is just we're projecting that into the minds of AI. Let's get off this fucking topic. We got to get back

to collapse. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get off this topic of made up thoughts. Right. Get right back into Alex made up thoughts. Yeah. So Alex in this next clip is going to introduce this idea that he's always been right. Always. About collapse. Nonstop. Yeah. But then they have the New York Times and others come out and attack myself. Gerald Solentia and countless others saying we're porn dealers. No. We're pointing out that they've engineered the system that's now collapsing to consolidate control. We've been proven right. And but isolated yuppies living I guess off pension funds or living off trust funds from mommy and daddy. I guess they still think it's all funny. I wish I had a Voo Voo Zayla because it's

or an air horn or something like that. Just like oh shit. Living off mommy and daddy. You want to you want a young folk style. I mean full disclosure. My parents have paid and helped me pay my rent in times where it's been fucking real hard and I couldn't find a job while trying to pursue comedy and shit like that. I'm very thrilled that they have supported me in that way. Which if you want to talk about white fucking privilege that's part of it. Nothing to do like in this circumstance specifically this is skin color changing the game but not necessarily due to any kind of racism intended by people. I'm not sure I follow you inherent within the system of wealth. So if you are what is available if you were a black kid your family is statistically

way less wealthy. Sure. So would your parents be able to help you out in those times. Probably I mean probably not. So what do you do. Well I mean there are counter examples but that's not that's not the conversation you're I know I know my my point is just like just that tiny little thing that little thrown off thing that people so many stories revolve around. Well like hey look I was in trouble and my parents were able to help me out for a short stay when I moved and those people never account for the fact that black families have been denied so much wealth throughout their entire lives for generations that they couldn't they don't even have access to that kind of help and it would be I don't know why I just over like I don't know why I just hijacked

that but that's no it's such an infuriating thing. It's a fair point and I do recognize the luxury that I had in that right and it sucked because I would have rather not that been the case. I would have rather had a job but when I moved to Chicago it was incredibly difficult to find a job. Yeah. I had no connections. I had no friends who had friends who had jobs. Right. I had even your friends didn't have jobs. Most of the I didn't even have friends as a comic. Generally speaking friends don't have jobs. You don't have friends. Those are the two things that are true. I had nobody. I know I had acquaintances that I'd see at bars when we tell terrible jokes. Exactly. That was it. And then I moved here with you know a nest egg that I thought was

going to be reasonable but it wasn't. It all. Yeah. $300 doesn't go too far. It was way more than that but it still went very quick. You know like it was it was a situation where you're in over your head quicker than you think and yeah that is that is privilege. Of course. And I recognize it and I wish Alex would recognize some of he is before he points the finger you know like it's just it's it's it's not it's not like a counter example to prosperity. It's not a counter example to his masculinity or his ego to own up to the fact that he is in the position he's in because his dad got him a radio job right at a critical point right that would be humanizing on his point or on his part to own up to that if he had just if at any point in time

he was like hey you know what my dad opened a door for me that otherwise wouldn't have been open immediately you and I would have a not hugely different take but we would have a different point of view but he could also even play up the feel like I didn't ask him to do it. He could even do that if he wanted to do that. He could do he'd be full of shit probably but yeah he could play any game that he wanted to instead he has this ego build up where it's like I've done everything on my own right to the point where he's like fuck these dumb yuppies who have mom and dads trust right exactly which is like you're a fucking that guy it's so insincere yeah so it just bothers me I mean it doesn't bother me in the sense that

like I'm triggered or anything like that but it's just like I don't know what you do I don't know to do with that like that level of disconnect from your own reality oh white genocide oh sure okay so soft yes now the people who are advocating for white genocide might be said to be in a cult that's possible but you know who else is in a cult people who are advocating for not white genocide liberals liberals liberals you didn't build your business you can keep your doctor we're not coming for your guns and cut that in together you want false to do them and kind of barbarian says steel isn't steel isn't strong boy flesh is strong take the arm that wields your sword he does this this impression is going to go on for a while he's going to do a James Earl Jones for

that long yes and then he also eventually like it's not in this clip but he comes back from break and they have found the clip and he plays it and he's like oh of course he does he's like he does this great thing that he does sometimes was like hey this is parody before anyone gets mad at me this is parody sure also here is video of obama sure sure yeah perfect perfect great parody the body that god gave you i will now show you the power of flesh conan symbol my child come to me come to me she's 400 feet up and just jumps off and falls i'm telling Hillary could look up to a bunch of women and go come to me come to me my child come to me they would just i mean i'm telling you folks this is a cult guys go to youtube i know it's on their thulsa doom woman jumps off platform

i'm telling you that describes the democratic party and the republican establishment is a bunch of balloons and of course the cult leaders are nuts as well briefly ladies and gentlemen we have a bunch of specials that end today one of them is survival shield nice i felt that i felt like that might have been coming but i did oh god damn you how amazing is that that is ridiculous weird james old jones refuse to deal with that she would get people to jump off a cliff for her and then briefly real quick buy my pretend products because you're in a fucking cult that believes they're real i'm gonna get briefly tattooed on me i was trying to think of like what would be a tattoo that would symbolize this year of my life

briefly dot dot dot definitely would be like it wouldn't be a not like it wouldn't be obviously like like alex jones's face or something like that what no no everybody knows that sums it up briefly only tattoo that would uh like sum up your past 11 months is of course a picture of my face screaming at you on your back sure sure that's exactly what you need yeah back to season four of heroes or whatever it was anyway so in this next clip alex jones talks about his audience and then at the same time like i told you we're still within this collapse uh sort of segment right uh it this is within the context of collapse and so he's talking about his audience uh and then at the end of it gets into a weird sort of discussion of free market uh but but there's

a fantasy that goes along with it that i think i think it has to do with beating your kids but i'm not entirely sure so we're not on board i'm not sure here we go we've hit a point here in the metric where the enemy has gotten so naked about world government their planetary plan but the credibility of everyone opposing it especially those that have been around for a long time is exploding the listenership the viewership the readership i don't know i haven't asked schneider but i bet people visiting his sites exploded he's talking about a guy named michael schneider who has he runs a blog called economic collapse blog right which is basically just you know he has these guys on who are like have prepper websites and shit like that course how to hide your guns right

it's just it's just another one like that so that's the context of that because and we're asking right now we're riding a rocket folks the globalists want to take us on an express elevator to hell we want to go on express elevator to a free market heaven and believe me free markets create incredible wealth incredible innovation they also then create incredible decadence and spoil rotten children if we're going to have a free market we've got to have children that aren't dependent that are made to work that aren't giving everything or we turn into what we've got here a bunch of stupid arrogant chumps not everybody but a large portion let's admit it we are exceptionally stupid exceptionally fat exceptionally dumb exceptionally mindless exceptionally sick we

are a mentally ill sick society i mean my god the heat hospitals with dead babies i don't we're growing humanoids inside cows to harvest their organs mit i mean it's all happening just admit we're screwed i don't know if i've ever seen somebody describe themselves better what do you mean i mean he's exceptionally stupid he's exceptionally fat he's exceptionally simple-minded he's exceptionally all of those things he fucking nailed him well but he also is the child of privilege he's the child of uh prosperity if you were a therapist in that room with him while he's describing like if you were just sitting there with gotta invoke the cold water rule and you were like hey um so tell me what you don't like about people and he said that

you would just stare at him and be like i don't think i can have you as a client anymore i don't like that these uh trendies have unkept beards and seem to be growing their hair out and have a cross eye uh i don't like that uh i don't know i'm just trying to describe myself as best i can oh boy dan you just described alex joe so uh there's a couple things that are important to take out of there first of all this this this whole mentality of like uh prosperity creates really uh like rich societies but then the next generation is decadent sure so be to be to make them work yeah um that's yeah there have been zero studies that have shown that only increases domestic violence throughout uh but but it's also a cowardly dodge for him because he's on the

right side of that generation line you know so it is a thing where it's like i don't know what you're trying to protect here um but then beyond that history doesn't necessarily show that that's the case because there are a bunch of civilizations that have generationally just been prosperous over and over and over again and those are ones that understand the in and out flow of resources the ones that understand that you what you need to do is create either a balance or a surplus of things coming in as opposed to those going out it's a very simple calculus that many Native American civilizations and tribal civilizations understood thoroughly well that you can create a homeostasis that works incredibly well well and creates prosperity and doesn't deteriorate i mean your

your best example of that is uh i mean here's here's the way to go we we've referenced uh the dollop many times but listen to the podcast about the akkadians and you're gonna be like oh that's the way to do it shit everything we did is wrong well tell tell the audience tell people like a little bit about what you mean oh the akkadians i mean the only only only 75 of the audience is gonna go listen to it all right so the akkadians were a group of french Catholics who came to Canada and by virtue of a uh of one huge innovation wherein they created a a an an essential like uh what would you call it um uh bulwark against uh saltwater destroying everything and the necessity of uh adding nutrients to the soil and they made this certain situation they made

this certain group of land a certain patch of land so fucking good so fucking good that they were like this is great let's do this and then everybody else got involved and fucked them over until they became the cajuns in louisiana and there's a whole long journey down there but the point being they did something right they just had a great place to go and then you allowed capitalists in like that's let's legitimately the situation i mostly asked because i forgot what that episode was about but anyway yeah absolutely um so you have a good situation and that does create just like you were saying a certain stasis it creates a situation wherein everybody seems to be pretty fucking satisfied and then you allow a capitalist and then you're fucked over yeah yeah it is uh it

it does seem to be that um on a very basic level capitalism is about exploitation yeah and undeniably and exploitation and uh a balance don't really coexist well no the idea of an equilibrium and someone trying to offset that equilibrium for their own advantage whether or not that attempt to get their own advantage is right or wrong or anything like that right it just doesn't seem like those two things can really operate together i don't know what that means for our future i don't know who knows it's a it's a weird confluence of like it's i i got very introspective today uh i'm listening or not introspective i suppose i got very long view uh a point of view uh situation today wherein i'm just going and thinking about uh how how it is

humans deal with things and there are these impulses that are you can't really describe them as good and evil right like there's one thing about capitalism that does uh benefit everybody in so far as if nothing is ever satisfying you're gonna constantly keep fucking working for it like with with our with any kind of artistic uh point of view a lot of the times one of the biggest issues you have is i'm never satisfied with anything i create right perfectionism and your always garbage right awful like you and trying to write a book yeah exactly it's always terrible and i'm never going to do anything that's good enough for my standards right and so that constantly forces me to keep trying to create that you know in a certain way that's a good thing

in another way that's destroying and eating my soul from the inside and right forcing you to never actually create exactly right so it forces you to create but never finish creating uh a certain product or even if i do finish creating it to throw it away because it's shit right you know and that's kind of that's kind of an overarching principle behind capitalism is it's never enough no matter what we do there's never enough wealth well fun that i just realized i mean basically this this sums up patreon right now uh what's going on with them uh i i i complain to you about this a little bit and it might we might as well put it out and discuss a little bit about this but like uh patreon has shifted some of their fees and who knows they might uh by the time this comes

out or in the near future walk this back i think they fucking should right but the thing is what they've done is the fees that used to be taken out of our cut yeah of the things people donated have shifted over to the people who are donating and they've started charging people a certain fee per donation as opposed to for all of the things that they donate to right so it's specifically screwing over the people who give little donations to a bunch of people right and it will end up cannibalizing probably the capacity of people to support creative projects of course uh but in doing so if you look at the the metrics and you look at the the math they will make so much more money this is not better for us or for you it's only good for them and and to that extent i don't

want anyone who wants to support the show to give more money to them at the at this point if you want to leave our pleas that feel free to know we will come up with a conversation we had a conversation about this that was essentially like that's capitalist we are so grateful to everybody who donates and if you decide uh not just to not do this because economically yeah if you just decide to do this uh to not do this philosophically i think we're on board with you totally like we we love everything that you've done for us and we care so much about you and if you stop donating to us we're going to be on your side which is a weird thing for us to say well it's probably not good it's that miscalculation that i think patreon did that was like people who donate to you are

your customers and that's not yeah that's not exactly no no this is a donation this isn't that's a support i mean you know technically you would think like this is yeah i mean i don't know i don't know i think the i think the biggest issue that we have is all of us are getting fucked over and they're the ones winning yes a hundred percent and that's the the part where as the creator it becomes incredibly difficult because we do need support and we appreciate your support but now i don't feel great asking for it in this way right so if you'd like to support the show which is not to say that we felt great about asking for it in any way no but in the future for the time being we're going to try and find a new platform but until we do that if you'd like

to become a policy wonk that that was an alex jones pivot right there my son feel free to go to paypal uh freezingpoint at gmail.com yeah so this money yeah um anyway let's move on said uh yeah we're gonna we're gonna figure out a way for this to work out for everybody the the point and the reason that i bounced off what you were saying uh to discuss that a tiny bit was because that is unnecessary influence of capitalism yeah they need to make more money i assume there's some pressure from the higher ups they got a shit ton they got a shit ton to venture capitalists to jump in and they're like i would assume that's the case i have no idea but but whatever it is it's a naked cash grab attempt right that is undermining the purpose of the thing right and

that is that's capitalism in a nutshell you got it you got it anyway uh in this next clip alex jones uh still uh he's still trying to push uh his uh disastrous narratives uh and uh here's where he goes with it what's going to happen though when the welfare checks still go out when the ebt card still work but they don't buy what they did before or the food's not on the shelves like we're already seeing in the shopping for snowmageddon i mean with with with this ignorant domesticated population the pentagon estimates as you know that within about seven to eight days most people will steal within about 11 days most people will kill oh i remember this one percent of people it's about 98 in some of the studies will begin within 15 days going to cannibalism we're gonna eat it now

imagine imagine the scenario in a real collapse i am and that's not how it would work we talked about this the last time that we talked about this no i know and i only brought it back in because he's really ramping through this like he's talking to this guy who runs a blog called economic collapse blog.com and great name and he's pushing these he's pushing pretty hard about the collapse you know like i've been right all the time i've been right people are gonna start fucking eating themselves uh and the context of that is snowmageddon the east coast got hit with like feet of snow yeah so when he talks about like oh you what you're seeing there there's no food on the shelves like and people ate each other no one ate each other no i don't i remember distinctly the news saying

snowmageddon cannibalism but him being like there's no food on the shelves like well yeah because people it's a disaster yeah that's kind of how that works when i was a kid we had a hurricane that it was a gun to hit our island in hawaii and there was very little food on the shelves right we stocked up and then it didn't hit and everyone was fine yep but be that as it may uh we finally i think that's that's the one that's a big example to me of a psychological truth which is that everybody no no everybody thinks they're a little bit better than everybody else like that's one of those like that's one of those things where you can go into any small town and as well as they get along with each other they will you know your family will think like

yeah we're good people but we don't know what those other people are going to do Hannibal Missouri thinks they're better than mexico yeah and in and in reality thinks they're better than a rala in reality people are like statistically people are kind of pretty cool with each other yep we just don't understand that and in a disaster situation almost everybody ends up defaulting on the side of helping yeah they want to help yeah and it makes you feel because you know why because you know why the reality of a disaster reminds you of the humanity exactly exactly because you start to realize how scared you are and you start to reflect on like that oh everybody's shit too yep yep and uh yep all of those all of those postal apocalyptic

future movies like what there should be is a shit ton of communities working their ass off to try and help each other like you go to go to Puerto Rico right now they are not being helped they are not being taken care of in the way that they should be because every single one of those people every single one of them are americans and i'll be god damned if you don't find everybody helping the shit out of each other and yet no one's eating each other nobody's eating each other weirdly can they don't have power they don't have water there's no cannibalism and flint nope it's weird i don't know everybody's just trying to fucking get through it man anyway in this next clip we finally get to the caller yes that's alex in a very weird direction

about the collapse narratives and i got to say this caller is too polite but the rest of it i'm totally on board with this because this is my kind of caller uh let's talk now to chris in georgia we got time for your question we'll come back with his answer go ahead chris hi alex this is uh addressed to you and your guests you know i know things are bad your listeners know that the condition of the world's economy is bad but what is the character of your this year's economic bloom and doom predictions from your guests like you know schneider dent and kaiser that is different from previous year's predictions well sure we've been we've been warning of all this coming they did unlimited money printing and manipulations most the world's already in

civil war collapsed so our predictions have been incredibly accurate well you know i'm not accusing you of crying wolf or anything like that but how do we get a feeling that it's really going to hit the fan this time because hold on hold on stay there stay there stay there uh i'm going to come back to you because you you you disagree or it sounds like or you're a skeptic which is great if you would have said that i'd have gone to you first so so stay there listen brother i hope i'm wrong you are i see the government building bunkers getting armored vehicles ready they are building fema camps and saying it's for patriots but not how that works so something big's coming so this is the call uh that's where it goes out to commercial something big is coming down well this guy has

made a very good question and i guess you probably have to do it politely or else alex will yell at you and right all right but the question being i'm not saying you're crying wolf i'm not saying you're crying wolf which i'm saying you're crying wolf over the course of our history doing this show i mean we jump back to 2014 2015 2012 and we just 2001 we well y2k but 2001 i'm gonna give him credit for maybe he saw 2008 coming okay all right i'm just gonna allow that and ignore it right but like the rest of it like we just see constant uh shit's about to go down and he has these janky weird uh very uh differently motivated financial experts on by gold yeah by gold right and the big old so this guy's question is real valid like to the point where you have a new word that

just combined by gold big it by gold oh big it big it big it big it oh it's like an ingot yeah it's like an ingot of gold buy a bigot of gold yeah yeah so the guy's question is immensely valid why should we super why should we listen to this when you have for years been prophesying a huge collapse rare because you are underwritten and broadcasted by a gold sale operation and why should we and so they go to commercial and then alex comes back with this chris called and he said if you just joined us how was this different from all of your past predictions that we're gonna have big collapses like the one we had before 2008 or the last few years we're talking about unlimited derivatives worse than 2008 uh banks you know digging in government

ministry of defense reports uh in 2007 in england saying they think basically economic collapse 2016 2017 pentagon saying the same thing no pentagon two years ago trying to set up camps for three million people to quote reeducate the public this is all that stuff that we talked about on uh episode a couple months back just completely misrepresenting all of this now i'm not saying they're gonna use those but that's an army dot mill i mean that's sensational armored vehicles saying there for the veterans and gun owners i have the sheriffs on video saying all over the country we told you of course before they admitted it because we had the manuals sure you know we got the secret documents remember seven years ago about for veterans and gun owners and christians

being the big enemy so they are well i mean let's be honest well one piece of that veterans one piece of this is that army dot mill documents that he's completely misrepresenting yeah and the other part of it is uh statistics have shown in the last since 9 11 uh in the last since 9 11 yeah yeah uh something to the tune of like 70 percent of domestic terrorism events have been white dudes it's always been white dudes yeah and sure there are some islamic folk who do but it's it's a drastic minority uh comparatively so the idea the idea that law enforcement agencies would put out memos where they're like gotta be worried about these sovereign citizens they keep shooting cops and stuff like that it's not or the idea that as tragic as it is because i think that the perpetrators

are victims themselves in a certain way the idea of returning veterans being shell shocked which is not a real thing but like yeah having PTSD yeah and killing their spouses or back when i was a kid when we were prop prosperous we called them pussies right they had shell shock they were cowards right but didn't have PTSD but the idea of departments being aware of that and being yeah prepared to deal with the fact that in the modern warfare scenario uh they're trained in improvised explosives and shit like that that doesn't seem that weird to me that doesn't seem like bias that seems like cops being prepared in general to me uh the way to deal with american news is first off if you are hearing about it in the news that means it's novel or rare right

secondly it bleeds or it's sexy or it fits in a narrative that's already pre uh pre-programmed in there so that's why you see because it's easy yeah that's why you see msnbc which is supposedly supposed to be somehow related to uh progressives picking up the same narratives that you have from fox news because fox news they pick up sexy fucking narratives so that idea of white terrorism that's not really talked about because it's not novel no we've been dealing with white terrorism for a long fucking time since the mary tyler more days and it doesn't fit with the narrative of a post 9 11 america wherein we're terrified of muslims right right so if you have those two things going on filter every bit of your news through if i'm hearing about this this is probably not a frequent

thing and if i'm hearing about this and it fits in a narrative it's probably not an issue that's generally how it works i think that's like the tsa is full of shit like everything they don't do anything successful they inconvenience everybody and it's a cartel and everybody can go fuck themselves it's fucking pathetic anyways continue i also hear that the tsa is on the roads they are back in 2000 well actually the arkansas tsa tsa is on the road right right um so we have one more clip uh before my punchline uh okay and uh alex is getting really defensive about this caller who's called in and been like why is this any difference and if your other collapse narratives uh and in defense of it in that last clip what we heard is him lying about stuff about internment

camps and the cops trying to get uh like be like hey white people are as likely or more likely to be people who more likely 100 more likely but even that is seven years old yeah like that is not current right so but he's using these narratives which are lies that are irrelevant to the topic at hand to bolster his like this time the collapse narrative that i'm pitching is real right when in the course of this podcast that we've done over the last year we've heard him push back the disasters coming this fall you know sorry winter yeah sorry no he's a he's a doomsday evangelist right he does this over and over the apocalypse is coming on december 9th 2019 instead of december i read the prophecy wrong i'm mixing two points here and sort of intentionally because he is as

well like one point is he is guilty of this he does this all the time but the other part is uh the other prong that i'm going on is he's bringing up irrelevant other lies in order to bolster the economic collapse lie right the economic collapse lie is unrelated to the idea of army dot mill right all that shit right right now he's creating the kentucky fried chicken double down of lies and so he has to bring it together and he tries to with a dumb metaphor and then we find out what is really behind it and it's something that you and i are you ad-pivot me i swear to god damn i promise you there's no ad-pivot but okay we already know you've lied to me in the past about economic collapses and ad-pivot we already know what's behind this okay he spells it out in an

embarrassing way ted copple so it's kind of like knowing hitler's gonna invade france in 1939 but you don't know exactly when and then finally it happens so first of all i i i didn't know boy i didn't mean to pause it there but i do need to point out that like what he's saying you're you know he's gonna invade in 1930 whatever that like he gave a specific year but what he's talking about is you know it's gonna happen eventually you just don't know when it's gonna happen right right and that kind of mentality is incredibly dangerous because it's just like i'll eventually be right like if i i don't believe wholeheartedly in bitcoin like we talked about this a little bit already right i think there's a lot of variability to it i don't fully understand the system but for

me to say bitcoin will collapse if i keep saying that long enough eventually there will be a big fall in it right and i could say i knew it all along right and that's the game alex is playing now that's what he's saying like it's like saying you know it's gonna happen eventually and now it happens right it's like that's dumb well the thing is that goes back to the preacher you're talking about yeah so here's here's the situation bitcoin will collapse but if i told you i knew when it would happen or i knew how far it would collapse or etc etc bitcoin's gonna collapse in the summer of rage i'd be fucking insane sorry it's gonna be in the fall i can tell you right now it's not worth what it's worth right now everybody's gonna find out i don't know when

i don't know how much it's not worth how much it's not you know like i don't know anything other than mathematically that's not how it works right right so anyway let's get back to this i just i just really disrespect the idea of the argument that like you know it's gonna happen eventually whereas you know i will be right eventually like well that's true of everything i've ever said especially with any market believe me when white genocide happens people are gonna come to this show and be like holy shit jordan knew it the whole time but like i could say right now like potatoes are overvalued i could just choose a random commodity don't talk about my people i could just be like fine cabbage we we lived through that okay cabbage all right i could just

choose any random like produce and just be like eventually the bottom is gonna fall out of this market yeah and then just keep saying it and then when it goes up i could be like it's over inflated you guys need to understand everyone everyone's into cabbage right now but they don't understand the realities of the cabbage market and it's it's a bullshit game you're you're describing the fluctuations as though something you can predict which is bullshit right um then when soros runs around saying run for the hills collapse and the royal bank of scotland says sell everything that's a quote two weeks ago alex is also misrepresenting the now the markets are plunging i want to put a graph on screen for tv viewers knighted for radio this is how i describe it

what are islands that they're not floating things that capsize like the congressman from george says okay they are mountains on the sea floor that have been thrust up by tectonic activity and if you're living up on the top of a hill or a mountain and the water's rising slowly and you say oh there's no economic crisis you know there's wars 30 plus civil wars mass death doubling and people starving i'd like to take a step back and just say that's kind of always the case um and it shouldn't be we'd love for it not to be the case but unfortunately uh international strife is kind of do regur in order for it not to be the case everybody would have to come together and create a one world government and abandon capitalism yeah wouldn't go all over the world

from you know 30 million to just it's bad and this buddy says oh where's this crash you're talking about i don't know two years ago restaurants in austin had about half of what they used to now they just don't have anybody and a lot of them are closing i mean really good restaurants uh our audience has tripled the last year but funds are coming at the same level most of talk radio is going bankrupt media is going bankrupt everywhere harlow slim has to prop up the new york times i mean and then people just do this thing like that boy slim you know we hear world government's coming where is it it's been announced we hear all this is going to happen where is it alex we hear they're coming for the guns alex where is it they're coming for the guns though they're not

so god i wish we're trying to stop the economic collapse pointing out who's behind it to consolidate control so what we get there is a smorgasbord but the the concrete evidence that alex has that the economy is a disaster is vague ideas about austin restaurants which i take issue with because i don't i don't know what information he has and the other being that his audience has tripled in the last year not true yes it is because of russian bots it's the same period of time since the russian influence campaign has started you know what i would say he's even lying about that i think his audience has only doubled like the russians wouldn't even have the gall to triple his audience i'm willing to go with the triple let's just go with the triple okay for simplicity sake okay since the

time that the influence campaign started in the summer or early summer of 2015 of rage his audience has tripled and uh there's no more money coming in and that he takes to mean the economy is a disaster no one has any more money to give me right and that is what he's basing this economic collapse on it's like all all the indicators say that the economy is stabilizing or doing better but i have tons of viewers and no one's giving me money right that's fucked up that's the only thing he has to go on for this entire episode is just all this like fuck you there's going to be cannibals 15 days from uh now yeah because so congratulations alex you unfortunately proved you are not a russian agent by virtue of the fact that you are influenced

by russian agents he is 100 percent being bolstered by fake accounts yeah his traffic is being inflated artificially um and obviously it's by these russian people who would i mean go listen to any of our other episodes where he just spits russian narratives about syria right about anything like it it's just he is a russian propagandist right without being russian right and so obviously they would want to bolster his uh position his prominence uh and so they do that um and it's clear it's clear that that is where he is like indisputable but but but here here are the two things i want to end this episode with the first thing is the intensity with which he thought that the economy was collapsing at the beginning of 2016 that led him to be we must support trump or die

is largely based on a misunderstanding that he has of his own numbers okay i think that there's a chance i you know what this is fucked up because you and i go through this thing over and over again where i'm like there's a chance alex could have saved himself and you're like no he couldn't yeah no i believe that there's a possibility had the russian bots not been inflating his traffic to think that he's becoming one of the most popular things in the world there's a chance that alex could have been moderate in his support of trump he could have been like but you can't prove a negative i can't we get right back into it but i i think there's a chance like because at this time even in uh even in january he's still you know his toe is in the water with cruise his toe is in

the water with rand paul he wishes he was more of an asshole so yeah but you're you're saying that he's just going to be a monster in a different way he's a monster because he's been duped right and i'm not a different monster i'm not trying to save him i'm not trying to save him he's a fucking asshole in a racist no matter how you slice it right right undoubtedly right but i think in terms of like the interest for history what he has done the way he like as a rocket propelled entity supporting trump to the point of being like we will die if we don't support him i think without that tripling of his audience he wouldn't have been confused like the economy is a disaster i have so many people listening in arabia my products i think i don't know i wish for a

better world fuck you dan that shit ain't coming summer rage baby now here's my punchline and this is from uh december 5th 2017 and this relates to the knowledge that we clearly have that alex jones's audience numbers were supported and inflated by russian bots now keep in mind in march of 2017 adam schiff suggested that alex jones was working for russia and he got really drunk on air and called him a cocksucker and said i'll beat your ass you son of a bitch fill your hand that sort of shit which again fill your hand great here's what alex said on the 5th and now their whole russian investigation as we knew is a fraud i mean they're calling me a russian agent and saying they had proof but never showing it i mean it's just like telling me again i'm a space

alien i don't even know i am one i mean if i am one i didn't know it that's pathetic there you are if i was one i didn't know it i didn't know it great please hide behind that mask alex it'll probably keep you from being prosecuted but it's called plausible deniability yeah that's what that is that's uh for someone who before was like i'll beat your ass for saying i had anything to do with russia to be like i if i did i didn't know i didn't know i mean probably didn't why would you tell him if you tell him he's gonna tell everybody is it gonna blab no yeah of course not yeah so congratulations alex i think uh you are very clearly the shittiest pawn the dumbest pawn in a dumb dumb game that took only one that's going to kill us all well yeah certainly yeah uh

but your part in it wow all it took was listening to you to unravel you know it's it's one of it's one of those things where it's like i kind of i kind of want it to get bad enough to where it affects him to the point where he has to say he's wrong like i almost i almost want us i almost want to be in a homeless shelter next to alex jones just so i can hear him be like yeah i wasn't i was lying well i i got taken in i think he i think i don't know if he'll ever say that but like i think he will end up having to like get you know get right with god to some extent right like i i don't mean god literally but like the things that are coming down the pipe in terms of the investigation that mulars doing right in terms of i mean look in the last two weeks or so

we've had two people be indicted one of them flip we've had uh strong indications that everyone's lying about everything yep uh it's all a total mess and it's going to get unwound eventually right the reason it seems like a total mess is because there's information that the public doesn't have that the investigators do have and when that invest that information becomes public a lot of it will become much more clear if and it becomes public i think it will and i think alex jones recognizes that shit went in march when he was mad and screaming i will beat your ass if you call me a russian he didn't have an awareness that fuck i was probably a part of this yeah and now i think he

realizes like based on that sentence right very clearly him saying i i i was a space alien i didn't know it you know a space alien is obviously facsimile right for a russian right right right he would never have said that six months ago right i think what's gonna happen is he's going to have to create a new layer of bullshit around himself and i mean we'll see what that is but i don't think he'll ever say he's wrong doubtful anyway you know if you'd like our show that was an ad pivot right there my friend it's not an ad pivot it's a getting out of here pivot you got to get the fuck i gotta go yeah uh we uh you can check out our website knowledge fight talk out yeah we write stuff dan put up three fucking articles in a row and i generally try to do three

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