Knowledge Fight - #1112: January 25, 2026

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex defending federal agents killing another person by abandoning his belief in the right to carry guns.

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Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your world. Knowledge Fight KnowledgeFight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan.

Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today? Well, it is still January. Oh, that's right. So we have a tradition around these here parts, and that is that you go first. I'm going to have to go first. My bright spot today is that my wife purchased for me.

the greatest pair of sweatpants that I have ever owned. Okay. I just got them yesterday. There is a drawstring, but you don't really need it. Okay. They are, they're maroon,

which is perfect. You could spill a whole bottle of wine on these things. Nobody would ever know. It's like a car that doesn't show dirt. Absolutely. They got patches on the knees, reinforced patches.

Not going to kick right through them. Not going to do it. They are also the most warm thing. Like, I don't know if they're going to be good whenever it's more than zero degrees outside. But for a negative 20 degree week in Chicago, this is the greatest.

Nice. They are the greatest. They're awesome. What did you say there were on the knees? Patches? I'm depending on your son. To pull the family through. Yeah.

Was it that? I think so. Okay. I think it was. Well, that's great. I have yet to really find a pair of sweatpants that I can, like, bond with. I know of that. I found some bad ones.

Yeah? Yeah. I like a good sweatpants. I find sweatpants to be the most satisfying of clothes. I love them. I love the idea. I just haven't found a good one. That's all.

I hold out hope that one day I will be in your position. Ooh, I've got some Star Wars sweatpants. Here's the problem. No patches on the knee. Now they've got a hole in the knee. See what I'm saying? These new sweatpants? Patches on the knee.

I wish. I wish I had known. Were you trying to get me to sing again? Ah, God damn it. I'm willing to. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for it. My son, it's up to you to do the rest.

There you go. My dad, it was a big old man. I can see him with the shovel in his hands. All right. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, it's January.

Patches. It is. And this tradition in January, I'm doing the Haribot. Still going. Yeah. And look, it's the, what is it, the 28th? There's only 24 days on. Advent calendar.

So we're done. That's a good point. But I looked at the 24th, and it is actually my favorite of Haribos offerings. Oh, yeah. And that is the Haribow Roulette. Oh, those are like the Lifesavers, Lifesavers, Gummies. Yeah, those are good. Yeah.

I like them quite a bit, so I'm not even going to try them because that would take me a while to eat. Yeah. So the thumbs up, you ended strong Haribow. That's great. Yeah. Jordan, you don't need to vamp. I was ready. I had a whole thing.

So here's my bright spot instead. Yeah. I watched an episode of McGiver two weeks ago. Okay. Still thinking about it. No. I've been meaning to bring it up because we've been talking about all my McGiver adventures. I'm going to see if I remember the plot. Okay.

All right. All right. So McGiver is out on the docks and he sees a young girl. He's trying to fish. Okay. And he's like, ah, you got to do this. He fixes her reel and she catches a big fish. It's great.

All right. Turns out she's homeless. Oh, okay. She's a street kid. All right. Doesn't have a home. Is squatting in an abandoned building. So, McGiver has taught her out of eat for a lifetime is what we're talking about.

Yes. First off, okay. Good news. So that's going on. Uh-huh. Then McGiver gets kidnapped by somebody. I don't remember exactly how this happens. All right.

But they give him a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, poison. They poison McGiver. Knowing it's McGiver, they kidnapped him or they just kidnapped a person and then are poisoning him? See, this is where I don't remember. Okay. But it's a poison that will kill him in 48 hours. Well, that's a terrible poison.

Nobody should ever make that poison. Right. So the bad guys are like, you're fine because you're never going to get this antidote. Right. Well, I mean, I bet you he will. So he goes and escapes and is wandering around the streets and he seems like he's a drunk because he's like walking around. Because he's all poisoned, yeah.

And that same kid who he had helped fish is like, I got to help this guy. Of course. So she takes him to her abandoned building squat that she lives in. Naturally. Somehow they end up getting the antidote. I don't remember. Look, here's the point. I don't remember, but it was great.

Yeah. And at the end, he implies that he's going to get this kid back in school. I would appreciate one situation at the end where it is like, Hey, kid, I hate to do this for you, but the systemic and structural problems are something that I really can't alter whatsoever. So here's a 20. All right, you have a good one. I'm out of here. Here's a fish.

I just remembered how it happened. Okay, so McGiver is like bringing something back to the United States. Yeah. It's like a list of agents who are undercover or something like that. So he's with a handler and they get attacked. He hides the database. Of course. in like a lamp post.

And so these people give him the poison because they're trying to get him to reveal where he hid the list of spies. Right, okay. So that's why he ends up in that situation. Right. Yeah. So that's, so, okay, here's what I'm thinking, right?

If you've got a 48-hour poison, do you also have like a 24-hour poison? Do you have like a six-hour poison? Like, do you have a series of poisons for the circumstances that you need? Or do you only have the 48-hour poison? Poison. I think in this case, they were not choosing the number.

Okay. I think it was just like, hey, that's how it works. All right. This poison, that's just, we were on the poison's time. Well, I mean, because it seems it's useful for like a, you know, forcing the, for like a crank situation. You know, where it's like you got a clock. You got to get us the stuff we need or you're dead. Right.

That makes sense. But, you know, 48 is a long time. It's too much. It's a long time. Yeah. You can figure out a lot of ways to get around a 48-hour poison in 48 hours. Right. What kind of amusement are you going to get out of this person trying to avoid death?

You've got to go to bed in the middle of this. Absolutely. Like you can't stay up the whole time. Yeah. No, no, no, no. And then while you're sleeping, what are they going to kill you? They might. Exactly.

But it doesn't matter because they don't have the antidote. No. I'd say, I say 12-hour poison max. I don't remember exactly how it happens, but the poison antidote pill ends up down a sewer great. Of course it does. And McGiver and the girl have to use their fishing skills. Of course they will. In order to get the pill out and save McGavers life. Thanks guys for establishing in the early part of the episode what skills we're going to need at the later part of the episode. Fantastic. I'm telling you that this show is the best. I love it, even though I only have remember the

episode. Yeah, that's great. So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. We're going to be talking about January 25th, 2026. Oh, that wasn't a good day. No, it wasn't. So on the 24th, There's another shooting. Sure. Ice. Federal agents killed another person. Yep, they murdered him. And that was on a Saturday.

And that's Alex's day off. Right. So we will be taking a look at Sunday. What happened when he decided to show back up and... I'm excited. Check it. I think he's going to do great. Yeah, you're going to love this.

I think he's got it. So before we get to this, though, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new walks. Ooh, that's a great idea. So first, my wife, Dr. Emma Langman-Mar turns 50 on February. second Groundhog Day, which feels cosmically significant. She's Neo, she's Leo, she's DCX Clark, she is the mysterious professor, she's a long time

Wonk, and you're her second, maybe third favorite podcast? Hmm. She loves it when Dad shouts, oh, that's a great idea. So if that happens, history will be made. She's an incredible wife, an amazing mom, and deeply love from Phil, Carl, Jacob, Dexter, Grace, Fay, and Ava. Thank you so much.

You're now, a PolicyWonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. Happy birthday. Also, happy birthday, Daniel Day Lewis, not the actor, but you know who you are. Love you, Raptor Princess. Because of you, I've listened to 150,000 hours of the show before realizing I didn't know what Alex Jones looked like. Thank you so much. You're a now, policy wonk. I'm a policy won. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. And hey babe, hey baby girl, poot on your butt. Thank you so much. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. We've got a tech credit in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much,

too. I'm out of bail bond fund. So you're going to have to take my money now. CDG. Thank you so You're now technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four start. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb.

Jar Jarre Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So Jordan, on Saturday, federal agents killed another citizen in Minneapolis. The previous incident involved a person driving a car

who'd been presumably blocking traffic before being confronted by agents. It was an awful shooting, but the surrounding details of it allowed just enough wiggle room for state media surrogates like Alex to pretend that the agent was in fear for his life and the killing was justified. People whose careers rely on them pretending to be opposed to police brutality like Alex were able to continue their charade, taking up the position that the police shouldn't kill people, but what do you expect when someone's driving a car at you?

It is what it is. through their arguments, they were insincere and they were based in lies, but they were still able to keep that illusion going throughout this coverage of that shooting. But Saturday's shooting was entirely different. I don't think it's a stretch that people online have called it an execution. The victim was legally recording law enforcement, got assaulted by federal agents, then was taken to the ground and disarmed, after which point he was shot repeatedly.

You can make out ten shots fired in the video of the murder, and none of it can be justified. The best argument someone can really make is that one of the officers misunderstood the victim's gun being confiscated as the gun being wielded, but even this argument fails. It's the most generous interpretation of the event possible, and if that is the case, then the agents who fired need to be fired and possibly charged with crimes. The chain of command has to be examined because this level of undisciplined violence is at least partially the product of bad leadership, and pretending otherwise is just not possible. Again, like the last time, I'm not interested in arguing about this, and I don't take anyone who would support this seriously. They're not sincere participants in a debate. They're malicious or misguided agents of state power.

Full stop. What makes this murder different from the last one is that the only way that the right-wing media has been able to justify the shooting this time involves the victim legally carrying a gun at the protest. Whether or not you can drive a car somewhere isn't a central issue for one political party, but whether or not you can drive a car somewhere isn't a central issue for one political party, but whether or not, not, you should be able to have a gun at all times is. The Second Amendment is central for the modern right wing, and a part of it is a full destigmatization of carrying a gun. Not only is it okay for you to carry a gun at a protest, it's wrong for anyone to act as if it's not.

If you feel weird about me carrying a gun, that's your problem. Brandishing a gun and threatening someone with one is an act that could lead to you getting shot, but it's been a critical part of the right wing project to stress the difference between carrying a gun and brandishing a gun. But now, the only way to justify this shooting in any way is to stress that the victim had a gun. We've often asked ourselves how sincere Alex's Second Amendment beliefs are, and I guess we're going to find out. I think this is going to test that a little bit.

Hmm. I have my doubts. Do you? Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. I think it's probably going to be totally fine. Do you think he's going to navigate these choppy water? as well?

I think eventually you just go, well, he's our enemy and we don't care if you murder the enemy. That's about as good as we're going to get out of him, I bet. Well, you know, I mean, we still have an episode to do, but you're not far off. Fair enough. So we start off here, and Alex is doing a special report in his car on Sunday before he comes into studio. All right, I'm reporting from Austin, Texas on this Sunday.

about 1130 central I will be live from the M4 studio tonight 4 to 8 p.m. Got about 3 inches, 4 inches of an ice sheet so the roads are basically empty. See a few cars that didn't make it

off on the sides. Again, really a 100-year storm and lengthening much of the United States. A lot of power lines down north where I'm at Austin. I'm in Austin. I'm too many power out. That's good feel for all the folks around the country.

We also, of course, had the second fatal ice shooting in just two or three weeks, Minneapolis, Minnesota, which was easy to predict, unfortunately. That's why the pedestrian plan from August 2020 from the Democrats said, we will block normal ice enforcement that's been going on since ice was set up in 2002. Remember Obama had four times. interpretations. Trump ever did. People say, well, the lives just his violence because nobody ever came out and attacked them like that before. And that's the Democrat plan. So Alex is acting like this turn of events was easy to predict, but he's not been saying that ICE was going to kill another citizen.

He's been saying that riots were going to break out because of the last murder and that the federal agents would be the ones being killed. There would be a huge false flag in order to blame ICE or Trump. What's happening in the real world doesn't match his fantasy story. lines, but it doesn't really matter because it all kind of feels the same. The pedestrian plan is everything and nothing at the same time, and Alex is the only expert on it because he's making it all up. And as long as there's chaos, it feels like he's kind of right. He has an energy that he feels like he doesn't want to cover this shooting. Like he knows it's going to be embarrassing for him. Yeah. And I think he's right. I mean, yeah,

yeah. You are, if you are Alex Jones, uh, if you watch. the government disarm and then execute a man in broad daylight, you have a responsibility to be one person or the other. You know what I think would be interesting if Alex just wanted to litigate

the last shot. I was... The first nine shots, totally justified. But that last one... The first thing, the first thing I was thinking was like, well, I mean, the seventh shot was justified.

Eight, nine, ten. I don't know. One through six, real bad. But seven, you had to do seven. Once you get to six, you got to do seven. That's just the math. Right, right? Seven is a lucky number.

Yeah, that's, whoa, boy, it's tough. It's tough to not say that when there is a blatant disregard for the concept of law, the idea of following law seems absurd. Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. So, Alex, he's fine with the last killing. Yeah. The last one, that lady in the car, that was, that was fine. This one seems a little bit iffy, but it's also probably, but it's probably okay.

It's probably all right. All right. They meant well. Then this woman's posey was just leaving her house. And then, of course, that wasn't true. She traveled five hours or whatever to come there with her wife and confirmed everybody and blocked cars and then ran the agent. That was completely testified.

In this one, I don't think it was on purpose, and I don't think it's a homicide, because, you know, the man did have a gun on him. Now that we've gotten better HD shots over than we had yesterday, people turned over to CNN footage that they got really close. You can see the other shots, a woman that was only like 20 feet away with a cell phone. Well, now that footage has come out. It's on CNN's website. I'll be planning tonight on my show.

It's very crisp, very clear. I was able to slow it down, and you can see that they're all wrestling around, one agency's that he has a gun in his waistband, you know, small his back, and says gun, he grabs it. Alex is trying to come off a little bit more moderate in his response here. The last murder was totally cool, but this one probably wasn't intentional. There's some stuff that looks bad, but ultimately the audience is just going to have to accept it. Alex is saying that it wasn't homicide by the agents because the victim had a gun.

Really let that soak in. Like, I'm going to play this again. Just bathe in this. In this one, I don't think it was on purpose. I don't think it's a homicide. Because, you know, the man did have a gun on him. You cannot have a philosophical belief in the individual right to own and bear arms and say something like that. The fact that Alex can engage with a story like this reveals that even his belief in the Second Amendment is bullshit.

The issue that this highlights is that fundamentally, Alex's beliefs have always been surface-level shit. His dad fucked his head up with all the... this John Birch Society stuff when he was a kid, and he's gone on to base most of his life around one of the stupidest books ever written, none dare call it conspiracy. As his career has progressed, he's just been used by a bunch of attention-seeking dipshit opportunists, and a lot of those old standard anti-communist right-wing beliefs have gotten eroded by hot internet trends and dumb bullshit he sees on social media. But none of it really matters to him.

He didn't understand or care about the principle of gun. ownership and what it means to believe strongly in a right to carry. He just knew all the language. He memorized the catchphrases and talking points of the extreme right and he hung out with fanatics like Larry Pratt and that was good enough. He was a Second Amendment guy because he acted like one and that's all that mattered. In the present day, Alex is doing what he's doing partly because he's been entirely seduced and captured by feeling like he's close to actual state power, but also partly because he doesn't understand the ideas he talks about. on his show in any depth.

He can say the words and do the performance about how gun rights are sacred when there's a mass shooting and he needs to argue against gun registration, but he doesn't care about this shit as much as he pretends to and it's obvious in a moment like this. You can't say that this isn't a homicide because the guy had a gun. You're Alex Jones. Nope. The fuck, man. Nope.

Now, you have to defend fucking OKC. You have to defend OKC because if the government drives a ticket. tank under your land. I don't care what you're doing. If the government drives a tank onto the land of somebody who's actively selling weapons, I don't care. The government can't do that. And so there must be retribution. You can't say, well, I mean, sure, the government murdered them, but he had a gun. But they had, they were selling guns. Yeah. That's what, that's what other people would say. He had a gun. That's why people said Alex Jones was crazy is because he said, oh, no, you can't murder all those people just for having guns. But this guy had a gun. But they

This guy had a gun. This got a gun. He's in a protest. I mean, hey, if one guy has a gun at a protest, then sure, the government should be allowed to detain them, disarm them, and then murder them. And look, we're not all going to be thrilled about it, but let's not get mad. I mean, the government seems fairly thrilled about it. I do appreciate. We'll get to that in a minute.

I do appreciate the idea that people are acting as though this wasn't the goal. Right? Like, oh, this is a side of it. No, come on. It can be both. Come on. You're literally terrorized right now? Surprise.

Who could have guessed that you would be terrorized by this terrorist organization? So look, this shit's not good. No. The guy was probably innocent. Wow. But come on. Stressful situation out there on those streets. You're going to do.

Now that CNN got footage from a lady that I guess didn't post it online, but gave me to CNN this morning. It's HD and you can see it all happen. So they're all hustling around with. him dog piling him does look he's resisting some and then you see the officer behind him saying gun and grabs the gun out from the small was back you know there they're tucked between his belt small was back and then when you watch the footage you can see that it looks like a tear gas not not the tear gas pepper spray big bottle falls from one of the scuffling ice officers the man

and cell phone and a clip bounces out. In fact, the clip had already bounced out, about two seconds before. And so they think that's a gun, because I already heard gun. And when they hear a gun, which way has a gun, that means even if they've gotten the gun, which they didn't know, they heard gun, it means he can have another gun. So they draw, they all draw, they all back up and draw, and then that stuff starts bouncing around, and they think it's a gun because the guy starts getting up on his knees as all that stuff bounces out and in the stress of the moment they killed

him and I think the guy was innocent. I'm sorry that he's dead. But those are those really high-stakes situations where they're carrying out... What were the stakes? With their administrative warrants, with their court orders, out there doing that, and everybody's really on edge.

Alex isn't really choppy water here because he's trying to slow play this. He knows his career in audience are based in gun rights absolutism, so they aren't going to love the argument that this guy deserved to be killed because he had a gun that he was carrying legally. Simultaneously, all of the people that Alex likes in government

are tripping over their own feet to smear the victim as a terrorist. Stephen Miller posted this to describe the situation. Quote, a would-be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement. Assistant Homeland Security Secretariat Tricia McLaughlin used the fact that the victim had a gun to assert, quote, this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement. Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam said, quote,

fearing for his life and the lives of his fellow officers around him and agent fired defensive shots. This looks like a situation where an individual arrived at the scene to inflict maximum damage on individuals and kill law enforcement. Alex's own employee and dipshit friend Nick Sortor incorrectly identified the victim as an illegal alien and said he was, quote, armed with a gun and attempted to pull it on agents as he was being

apprehended. This is an information war, and Alex's side has made it very clear what their narrative is supposed to be here. It's now his choice to eat this shit like his job requires or have a backbone and call the government and his own employee gun grabbers. Those are the only two options. Yep. And he's trying to slow play somewhere in the middle, and it looks stupid. I mean, seems like an asshole. This is, this is forced to everybody's hand. Either ignore it or don't, but there's no, there's no not choosing a side, you know? You can ignore it, which, what are you going to do? But if you see it, you got to choose.

And I don't think that, I don't want to, I don't want to paint that on everybody, but I do want to paint that on Alex. Sure. I want to double down on that in terms of Alex. This is a moment he cannot ignore. No, yeah, this, this, he should actually be out there like, hey, we need to find out where the fucking ice keeps their weapons and burn that depot to the ground.

Yes. If you don't want to get shot, then we got to get rid of their guns. We have to take their guns. And since we can't carry them, we have to burn that place to the fucking ground. Yeah, he should be like trying to lure Bovino in for an interview

and then hold him in a cell or something. Citizens arrest. I mean, I think we should probably burn those depots to the ground. Look, there's a lot of people who are saying a lot of interesting things. And one of them is Alex. And he's like, hey, man, just don't carry guns. It's too dangerous. Uh-oh.

You've already had all these ice hagences shot up and all the rest of it. It is extremely crazy and extremely dangerous to be armed out there. I'm off the Second Amendment. And you guys got rights to be out there with your guns. Okay? I'm just saying it's going to, when I go to demonstrations and stuff, I don't take guns. Just because it makes me more of a target. Now, well, we'll have some.

Transcure there that's got concealed and stuff, but I'm not even second-guessing the guy doing that. I'm simply pointing out what do you expect in this type of situation with all the stuff going on. So Alex has given in to fear and now no longer believes that citizens should express their God-given right to carry a gun because it's

too likely to make federal agents see you as a target and they'll probably kill you. If federal agents think you're a target because you're exercising your rights, then your rights are under attack, and Alex fucking knows that. His career is based on seeing a situation like this and saying that people should walk around with more guns. His beliefs are based on not changing how you exercise your rights because the state tells you to. When there's a conflict between your rights and what the state asks of you, you're in a tyranny.

I think it's also important to stress that Alex understands that what he's saying is a betrayal of his gun rights position. And that's why he's doing this so softly. Yeah. He's trying to mask the point of what he's saying. saying behind this facade of empathy and like, oh my God, isn't this such a, oh, shucks, such a tragedy. I mean, the funny part about it, the irony of it is hearing it out of his mouth makes it so clear that everybody who's ever been like, I'm all for the Second Amendment is full

of shit. You're not. You're not because it's fucking crazy. You just don't want your side disarm. Exactly. You don't want to be like, hey, I'm all for the Second Amendment, but fuck off. It's ridiculous. Stop it.

Yep. And it's, it's, it's, it's pretty ludicrous for Alex to just, um, have this position of like, yeah, it's too dangerous. Shouldn't, shouldn't keep guns. No, I mean, the state might treat you badly if you have guns. He, I mean, yeah, it is, it is like this guy has set himself up, uh, has talked such a big game to find his moment where he is probably positioned to lead a lot of people with a lot of dangerous ideas. to do some good. And yet somehow, here we are with him supporting the fucking Nazis.

Well, here's the truth. The tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants, not cowards. Well, Alex is free from watering duty. Yeah. Don't think he has to worry about ever running into that tree. I wouldn't be surprised. So I think that Alex is like, hey, man, they're not, no one's going to try these cops. They're fine.

Everything's cool. Feels bad, though. I mean, it looks bad. It seems like shit. It looks bad. They will try to have Soros judges indict this ICE agent. I don't see that going anywhere. That looks like three of them fired into the man once they heard gun gun and all that.

And it's just a tragic situation. And it can happen to anybody that goes out against the middle of this stuff. So I'm sad for the man. And I'm sad for it. family, but all the tens of thousands killed by legal aliens murder raped. The millions dead of them fentanyl. The left never humanizes that. They never talk about that.

I think that Alex believes that he seems empathetic when he's trying to do this. I feel bad for the victim's family stuff, but it makes him come off worse. Gun rights is a cold-hearted business for Alex. Defending your right to defend yourself has meant that he's had to do some horrible

shit in public and re-victimize a ton of grieving people. He's had to defame and disparate and disparage people who are just living their lives before tragedy struck. And sure, it comes off bad to treat people like that. But it was what Alex had to do to make sure that the gun grabbers didn't grab your guns. If Soros lawyers and judges are the only ones who are going to try to indict these agents for murdering a citizen just because he had a gun and that's not going to work,

then doesn't it kind of seem like federal agents could just kill anyone they see with a gun? If what Alex is saying is taken seriously, then you don't have a right to carry a gun. Your God-given Second Amendment rights are conditional, and you can only exercise them when the government tells you that you can. And they don't even need to tell you you can or can't. They will just kill you. That is a good way of telling you that you can. Yeah, it's pretty final. Yep.

The empathy is not real. It's an instinctual performance Alex is putting on to mask the fact that he's condoning state murder. Feeling empathy for the victim is a normal and relatable thing to express, so he's hoping that distracts from the blatant boat licking that he's doing. and make people not realize like, who are you? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I get the bloodthirsty people. They make sense to me. You know, I get when Stephen Miller's like,

that guy's a terrorist murder him. Yeah, you want to murder people. You're a murderer. That's fine. I get that. There's character consistency there. Yeah, this is just, this is pathetic. That is the thing.

It's not even that it's like wrong or bad or anything. It is like a worm. It is like watching a fucking snail try and run. This is disgusting. It is. It is fucking sad. Well, and the thing that it that sucks about watching a snail run is that like you realize that like, ah, this has always been the case. Yeah.

Like he would have been willing to give up Second Amendment shit. Yeah. At any point. Yeah. If the more important things to him were catered to, which are his feelings of white identity. his want wanton desire to press the LGBTQ community, kicking out immigrants. Like if those things were catered to, he never would have felt the need to protect himself from an oppressive government. Yeah.

No, the honest thing is, the honest truth of Alex right now is that if he had any integrity, whenever he realized this is the government's line, he should have fucking lit himself on fire outside of his studio. Like that is, that's the level of protests. He should be killing himself right now. Like, that is what should be happening. Because that's your choice. Your choice is either to die in one way or die in another. I can die in real life and not have to fucking suck the feet of goddamn Donald Trump anymore.

Or I can kill myself in another way and say, this is fine. Both of them are death. Sure. I mean, I think he'll probably choose the one that pays better. Probably. Every time. So, hey, look, man. So Oscar buzz going around

You know? Love it We got sinners, got a bunch of gnombs It's going to be great Also got a bottle and after a there Yeah And I think that Alex saw the Oscar noms Yeah

And he was like Maybe I should get around to see In that movie that I keep talking about Odd So the night before Alex finally watched One Battle after another I thought he watched Wicked for Good Nope

Nope No You be capitulated Just abandon all these blue cities That's the best of plan Start with not working with ICE big sanctuary cities blocking

feds getting any illegal aliens including hard criminals making all these Hollywood movies they're all innocent their own angels like one battle after another and all the ice people are secretly white supremacists

you know in the St. Nick society or whatever's made up total crap the St. Nick Adventurer society and all this stuff it's just like the same people that put out machete kills

where Don John John and shooting pregnant Hispanic women at the border. Where are the gringoes killing Hispanics at the border? No, it's all 80% of the women get raped by the coyotes on the Mexican side. But you don't see machete kills and Rodriguez put that out. And Obama was involved getting those done. It's all just the same shit. And I finally watched, because I've read the transcript, I've read the script of it,

but I hadn't watched one battle after another. And I watched it last night. And it was just like, all scripted for this time. Already just like Civil War last year, the election, and it's all their wed dream. It's all what they want. It's in the pedestrian plan. Oh, yeah, Alex read the script. Sure.

Dumb dick. Jesus Christ. That clip is fucking damning. Alex straight up said that until the night before this, January 24th, he hadn't even seen one battle after another. All the shit that he's made up about it and how it's a podesta plan. All of that came from a guy who'd only seen the trailer and heard his racist friends on Twitter complain about the trailer.

Yep. His story without having seen the movie is that it glamorizes Antifa-style violence against ice facilities, and now that he's seen it, he can't possibly hold the same position, but he also can't change his talking points. That's a problem. He's trapped in his previewing review, which is kind of funny, but also pathetic. Yeah. I can't really stress how embarrassing this should be for someone to say.

He's been on air yelling about how this movie is part of the globalist plot to foment domestic terrorism as a plot against the white man, and he didn't even bother to watch it before preaching that shit. He used his feelings about the movie to justify the killing of U.S. citizens, and he hadn't even seen it. That's crazy.

It's embarrassing to imagine someone watching him and hearing something like that and being like, this guy is good, he does his work. He's a good source of information. I would feel pretty embarrassed, too, if somebody was like, the Sinknit Club, that's not even real.

Like, yeah, buddy. Yeah, man. You're about, you're almost there. You're going to get it. You're going to get there one day. You're going to get that none of it was real. The whole thing, it's a make-em-up. What?

Yep. It's a big old make-em-ups. Not in the script. I read the script. I read the script. I was listening to that and I realized something. I don't need another side to exist. Like, I don't need people to exist to, like,

change my opinion on things. Like, that's a murder. I don't care who exists. I don't care if any Democrats or Republicans, you can all go get fucked. That's a murder. All of you can go get fucked. I don't need anybody else.

For him, though, he needs Democrats. He needs Obama. Please absolve me of responsibility. Make it so I never have to eat my fucking principles. Well, yeah. It's disgusting. I think that's something that we've identified over and over again, that Alex exists in a petulant state of oppositional defiance.

Yeah. He can only be understood and understand himself through what he is to his imagined enemy. Yeah. And like, that's kind of sad. And when it's like the enemy is revealing their plans to me through movies. No. And you don't even watch the movies. You don't even take your own psychosis seriously.

Nah. It's pathetic. It's lazy psychosis. Yes. It's boring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the mark of somebody who's like, I think maybe not as crazy as they want to look. Maybe one of the only ways he can seem interesting. Yeah, if the Joker just had like a sustainable theft model of like mid-tier banks from city to city, never staying anywhere too long, you know, not really causing chaos so much as living fine. Alex is kind of like the Joker. if he was like, what if I burned a big pile of money? Yeah, uh, yeah, wouldn't that be crazy? Wouldn't that be crazy?

And then never got around to it. But me changing things by saying that is what this is really about. I'm going to take my pile of money, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will take that money. I will take that money. I will take that crazy. That is ridiculous. So look, ICE didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do this. They did. They really did. No, because you got to think about. No, they murdered that guy out of desire. Well, you're not taking into account the paperwork. But, uh, again, my prayers go out. to ICE, the American people, and to this fellow's family.

And the left saying got there with guns, and then the stuff started happening in confusion. Clearly, they didn't want to kill him. They don't want the paperwork or to go to prison or to face all this. But they're going to do what they're doing. And they are sworn law enforcement, and they are trained. Most of them are former cops or military or both. And again, I'm surprised at how professional they've been so far, because these are dangerous situations they're in with, I mean, even before this guy got killed,

They're throwing giant chunks of ice at them and bricks at them and, you know, just, just everything else because they just scream, Nazi, if you die, die, yeah. It's just like, and then they lied about that kid, you know, that five-year-old at the school. The dad runs, a little kid standing there. So they just say, well, here, let's lead you inside. And then that's the truth. But it doesn't matter. It's always just some new, hyped up hysteria, some new craziness.

At the end of the day, they're the ones that create the crisis. They're the ones that told the illegals come up here. They're the ones that gave them all the freebies. They're the ones that did all this. I get that Alex is peddling around a lot of bullshit about how everything is the globalist's fault. But let's just cut through all of that. Because the globalists have done all the things

that they've done over the last few decades, Alex does not believe that you have a Second Amendment right anymore. Because he likes what ICE is doing and because he feels like they hurt the right people, they should have no punishment for killing you because you're legally carrying a gun in public. All the shit that he's doing, of these, like, touch points he's trying to make.

All of it is a distraction from the main point of this video, which is that the state can kill you for having a gun now. Attempts to punish federal agents for killing someone for having a gun. That's just Soros judges trying to meddle with Trump's agenda for success. That's where he's at. Yeah. That's what he's saying. No, I mean, we should seriously be sitting here with him going, like,

if that guy had killed all of those ICE officers, I would defend him. He should have. They all had guns, and they were trying to take his gun away. He should have been able to murder all of those people. He should have been able to shoot them all in the fucking head. If he was there protesting vaccine mandates, Alex probably would have that position. These motherfuckers bombed an abortion clinic. Fuck off.

Fuck all of these fuckers. I don't give a shit. So this is the end of the first Twitter video that Alex made. Oh, there's more than one. Yeah, there's a second video. And then he did his show. Yeah. Oh, fuck.

We're not going to listen to. all of it because it does get tiresome. I believe that. But here is Alex talking. I guess he decided like, why not shoot another video? Come on. I'm in the car. I mean, you're in the car. So you've seen the angles. You've seen the facts. They're totally surprised.

They jump. They run. They believe they obviously see a gun. Two of them shoot in to the man on the ground, Alex Peretti, who's now dead. And we're sad for him and his family. So that's the reality of what's happened here. But when you say that there's no borders, when you say get out of the city, these are sanctuary cities, even for hardened criminals, it creates constitutional crisis and Trump is not going to back down. So they've created this crisis. They cooperate with ICE. But no, they want illegal to be part of the new census, 18 new seats for the Democrats already. They want them to vote in elections. They admit all that now. And this is about breaking the country.

If the Democrats can hold the city's hostage, they control almost every one of through election fraud. and that's the Vodesta plan. It's a Civil War movie. That's one battle after another. Then they've conquered this country. So to translate that, if Alex has seen a couple of movies he doesn't understand and he feels like some protesters are yelling some stuff he doesn't like,

then the Bill of Rights doesn't exist anymore. I think it may be an overly simple way of putting things, but Alex just doesn't believe in universal rights. He may believe that rights are endowed by the creator, but he doesn't think that everyone was created equal with the same freedom to pursue him. happiness. And until he gets real about that, this shit is stupid.

Yeah. Like, he doesn't think that some people have rights. Yeah. Yeah. He can act like he's a Second Amendment guy, but it's just like some people don't have that right. Yeah. I mean, I-

It's universal except that. I find it, you know, it's like a degree for me. Like every headline that I saw that was like, ice shoots. and kills U.S. citizen are such like, I don't even know if they realize that they're implying that it would be totally fine if they'd killed a non-U.S. citizen or a person who was illegal or a person who is not supposed to be there or blankety blank. That implies that it would have been different as opposed to, hey, ICE can't kill anybody. Ice cannot kill anybody. You can't kill anybody. You can't kill anybody. Yeah. And my language is,

even, you know, like, guilty of that a little bit. And I don't mean it to be like, if this person wasn't a citizen, it would be fine. No. And I realize that part of the reason, for me at least, in the framing of how I'm talking about this, is because I meet Alex at least partially where he is. Sure. So for him, the fact that this is a citizen matters a lot. Yeah, absolutely.

And that's why I, that's why my language is intentionally pointing that out. Right. But your point, your point is right too. Like, it's, it doesn't, it, it, it doesn't make it, it different than had they have killed anybody. The context within which we are discussing this is far different than anything that, uh, that fucking ABC News or whoever, whatever, whatever fucking morning show is saying. But it's still good to call yourself out about it a little bit.

But yeah, it is, it is very much like, the addition of that detail is meant to, assuage like well I mean now that we've added this accuracy we don't have to then go retroactively say let's go look and see how many people ICE is murdering how many people is ICE murdering why don't we know how

many people ICE is murdering because if we have to acknowledge that one of them is a U.S. citizen doesn't that imply that there's a bunch that I haven't heard about who weren't U.S. citizens? It implies that as a possibility and I think that the uncomfortable reality

is probably if we open that door too wide, we might find out that we don't really know any numbers. Yeah, no, I mean. Someone might not even really be keeping track of. Here's what fucks me up, because here's what I see in that video that I am not hearing from other people, and it bothers me.

It is professionalism. It is, that is not something that was their first go-round. They have executed plenty of people. Well, very similarly. Let me push back on that. Yeah. I don't know if I would say professionalism. I'm feeling similar things to what you're saying,

but professionalism to me is like James Bond. Sure. Precision. Sure. Fair enough. They seem brazen. They, yes. That's what I see.

They seem brazen and practiced. This is not their first disarm and murder. Yeah, but also so imprecise. I don't think you have to be that precise whenever you've got 10 shots in your back pocket. Yeah, I guess that's true. You're not, they're not snipers. They don't need sniper behaviors. Yeah.

You know, they got plenty of bullets. It seems like they're not running low. Nobody's, nobody's like, hey, we're not going to replace that clip that you just shot into that human being. Now you don't get bullets. They're going to give them another clip. I just bucked a little bit, I guess, because, like, for me, professionalism has the feeling of, like, choreograph. I get what you say. No, no, no, I get what you say.

And I see sloppy. I agree. But at the same time, like, not really all that uncomfortable with, do. the thing that they're doing, which is murder. Yeah. And yeah, that's not cool. No, no. It doesn't, yeah, and I agree with you that, like, we can't know right now with the

information available. Right. Like, what else is unknown? Right. Who else has been heard? Totally. We don't know that. But they, it doesn't strike confidence that this is like, oh, my God, what the

fuck kind of situation. Yeah. when the behavior is like you're describing. Yeah, I mean, it would be, it would be different. It would be very different if, like, immediately after in that video, the guy was like, oh, my God, what the fuck did I just do? None of that. None of that.

It was like, hey, here's our next steps. Yeah. Yeah. And the previous shooting was even, you know, like, yeah, calling the person a bitch and not allowing emergency aid to check on her. Like, those. are not actions of someone who made a sincere error in the heat of the moment. Yep.

And that, I agree with you. That is an incredibly scary element of this. So anyway, it's all about the Podesta Plan. I'm sure it is. Yeah. One other key point in the Podesta Plan that they're following. They want to build public support for the blue cities and states to break away and have a secession and literally lead local police and governments against the federal forces.

That's in the Podesta Plan. It's in the Civil War movie. now what the police chief, the mayor, Fry, the governor are talking about by saying what ICE is doing is illegal, which it's not in its main actions, it delegitimizes them in the eyes of much of the public that are ignorant, and that creates the schism as the pretext for the civil war and the secession that's in the plan. So let's say that the Podesta Plan does involve trying to delegitimize ICE. According to the way Alex is applying that piece of information, that means that no criticism of ICE can ever be taken as valid, because to accept that, that some delegitimizing piece of information about ice is true would be in effect part of the pedestrian plan working. If the pedestal plan requires the delegitimization of ice, then the best way to fight it involves supporting ice at all costs. Everything that ice does will be justifiable this way,

and God forbid there ever end up being like a mass casualty event surrounding ice, Alex could just pivot to saying it was a false flag being done by the globalist to make ice look bad. Yeah. It's all perfect. He has a system in place where no state atrocity can be taken seriously and where the Trump administration can get away with anything. There is nothing he cannot lick. No boot is too big to lick. Yeah. I mean, it's like even the Kent State guys, they had to go to trial.

You know, at the very least we had a trial. Sure, they all got fucking off. Sure they were all like, ah, you're fine. But at least it was at, at least it looked like. they were going through the motions of giving a fuck. This is not that. No. This is not that.

This is cheerfully cheering at atrocity. So we get to the actual show, Alex's actual show. And what do you know? More yapping. More blah, blah, blah about the pedestal. Amazing. I know exactly what's going on. And if you're a long-time listener of this show and check out what I was playing,

you know what's going on. The Democrat Party has an official plan called the Podesta Plan. that is built around if Trump ever got back in office and deployed ICE like presidents have done in the 23-year history of ICE, then they will have their mobs attack ICE, and that when ICE then defends themselves at some point, there's going to be some dead people on both sides, and then they bill Trump as a dictator

and use that as a pretext to have the blue states go into open rebellion, and starts the seating. Now, that's an official Democrat Party plan. I made a big deal about it. Since they first said in August of 2020, if he wins, if we can't steal it, we're going to do that. Man, he's struggling.

That voice is shot. So, yeah, it's all the Pettastipan. It's all the Pettastipan. Cool. I'm reflecting on myself and the journey that I've taken through life. And this has given me a moment of gratitude because I've realized something. I've done a lot of drinking in a lot of public places.

And it is by the grace of God that I did not run into somebody saying shit like this at the wrong time. You know? Like, I have not been to jail. That's crazy. Because if at any point in time I was less in control and there was somebody saying shit like this after God knows how many atrocities we've lived through. Yeah, but like, you know? Yeah, I guess the circumstances are always going to be hard to like recreate at different times. back in the past, but like, how many times somebody probably say something to you that, like,

you might want to swing at them, but you just didn't know what the words meant. Exactly. Like, I wouldn't, if I didn't do this, I don't know if I didn't know what the fucking pedesta plan meant. Nope, nope. These are, this is inside language. Yep. And if I was. If you encountered that at a bar, you might, like, have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

Or I'd be like, oh, that's their way of dealing with it. Not, oh, this is their way of protecting the people from, uh, consequences for murder. Yeah. Yep. So the globalists, they want you looking at the details, right? They don't want you to see the bigger picture. My job is really easy because we have the enemy's own plans. But it's also hard because I've been hammering this and hammering this.

And we're just now seeing the White House that people get it and talk about it. But if you just look at the tragedies that happen here and there that are caused by them triggering all this. and if you only focus on those and debate individual events, you're down on their level where they want you to be. Instead of going, look, they said they would do this. They're the ones foaming it. So you have this latest guy shot, and we now have the details on that.

What really happened will be getting into it. Because better up close footage has been released. But when you pull back from it, this is exactly what they want. Alex says a pretty solid strategy to distract people from situations that are really bad for his narrative, which involves fluctuating between whether or not specific details matter. In a case like this, where the situation is indefensible, Alex knows he's going to lose an argument trying to say that the federal agents were right to shoot the guy, and that it would look bad, even if he tried to mount that argument. That's the conclusion he's supposed to get his listeners to accept, and his job is to pacify them in situations like,

this, but the approach of looking at the details of the shooting and defending them is a bad way to do it. Instead, he's able to lead them down the path of not caring about the shooting by demanding that they zoom out and see the big picture. Sure, if you focus on the specific incident, you're going to get mad at ice and you're going to see it's a police state kind of shit that's completely out of control, but that's what the globalists want you to do. They've brought in all these immigrants and had their paid provocateurs yell mean things at ice so it would lead to a moment with optics like this, all so they could trick you into being mad at ice because you were so set on missing the forest for the trees, you fool. If you watch

enough of his show, you'll notice that this is a strategy that works both directions. When the big picture of something looks really bad for Alex, he demands that the most important thing is focusing on really minute details. Take for example the whole Sandy Hook thing. His arguments were incredibly stupid there, but he was able to keep the audience from recognizing that by insisting that they need to just focus on these anomalies that he got from people like Wolfgang Howbig and Jim Fetzer. In that case, you were supposed to be as lost in the weeds as possible because Alex knew that you would lose the big picture game. Right. The big picture was that gun proliferation in the United States had gotten to the point where children might not be safe going to school, and that was

the result of policy choices that we had made and could choose differently about. This was the argument Alex needed to avoid. So instead of demanding that the audience see the big picture about this, it all got very granular. And this is a rhetorical tactic that manipulative liars use and it's what he's doing. Yeah. And it shouldn't even work because the big picture is worse. The big picture is this fucking ice guy, this is a job.

This guy could have been selling cars 20 years ago and if he'd sold 10 more cars. in a month. Maybe he'd still be selling cars. This was an organization created by people to lead to these outcomes. Right. No, that is a big picture. You know? Yeah. But when you have an incident that's bad, you can write your own big picture. That's definitely true. You know, you could have that be your big picture about what people are missing out on by

focusing on the details or you could do what Alex does. It's his way of keeping things off balance a little bit. Yeah. When you're looking over here, you're supposed to be looking over there. When you're looking over there, you're supposed to be over here. Yeah, I mean, tactically, it is the move. Go where they ain't, you know. So I suppose, I suppose tip of the cap to horror.

Yeah. So Alex is a little bit mad that everyone is saying that Trump is going to try and get a fourth term in office. Yeah, he's mad about that. You have Senator Chris Murphy, one of the most evil senators in Congress out of Connecticut and others saying Trump is planning to cancel the 2026 election. You're not even speculating. It's a fact. If he wins, he's stolen it.

Well, he says, last week he said he's going to cancel him. Now he says he's going to steal him. Now, remember, they indicted Trump for saying the 2020 was stolen from him, but he had evidence. And Jack Smith just testified to Congress. about that this week. So it's just wild, folks. Alex is leaving out an important detail here.

He's saying that all these folks like Chris Murphy are saying that Trump is going to try to have another term as president, and Alex is acting like this is an accusation that's coming out of thin air. These folks were only discussing the idea of Trump running again and violating the Constitution because Trump tweeted, quote, this is all caps, record numbers all over the place. Should I try for a fourth term?

A lot of Alex's show can be deconstructed like this. Step one, Trump does or says something completely insane and inflammatory. Step two, someone else responds to Trump's inflammatory shit by saying something like, he shouldn't do this. Step three, Alex reports on the response without ever actually dealing with the inflammatory thing Trump did that started it, and he's pretending that all this is coming out of nowhere. Yeah. It's a fucking stupid game, and come on.

Yeah. Come on now. Yeah, and also, like, realistically, uh, yeah, he's going to get that. What are you talking about? Is anybody to stop him? Nobody's going to stop him. Of course he's going to do that. I think it would take something large to stop him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe if the Democrats win the midterms and then immediately 25th Amendment him with like cops and shit arresting him and like putting him on a boat that goes into the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and then nobody can ever find it again. And I'm sorry, you can be president if you get back. You can be president if you get back. But you start in the middle of the ocean. Are you trying to thunderbolt Ross this guy? I think that's what I'm doing. I think that should be how it works.

I don't know if that's going to work. Here's what we do. Next 2020, 2020, election, all right? We put all of our presidential candidates in the center of the Atlantic.

Whoever gets back as president. Okay. So we just want a seafaring president. Exactly. The best leaders have always come from the sea. I'm fine with that now. I don't care. Dolphin for president.

Mowries are the best presidents. Everybody knows that. Sure. So Alex has some big news that's broken on Twitter, and it's about left-wing anti-ice signal groups being infiltrated. Uh-oh. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into it right now. We have incredible discoveries that I spent hours today researching.

Unbelievable. journalists were able to infiltrate the signal chat app used by the Democrats in Minnesota and via that into California, Illinois, you name it. And it is state senators, state reps, high-level staffers of walls, commanding people to harass and attack ICE and stalk them and docks them and foemen all this. now we already knew that was going on but here is confirmation unbelievable and in the signal chat apps feeds are hundreds of videos of while I could call them as communists running these operations so there's your racketeering right there it's one thing to say we're not going to aid federal agents following the Constitution and court orders and warrants.

That's just obstruction of justice. But when you're out there quarterbacking, working with thousands of people and working with NGOs, it is a conspiracy. It is racketeering. So I can do the whole four hours tonight on that. Okay. Just that. Incredible.

Because they upload videos of themselves doing it and the meetings they have and in the field and stalking and harassing innocent people, demanding citizens' papers. I mean, it's everything they claim ICE is doing, they're doing it with no legal authority. So it's pretty shitty that Alex is teeing off on this story and he's not crediting online dipshit Cam Higbee

for doing the legwork of hanging out in a bunch of signal chats and taking screenshots. Alex is making up a ton of new details and embellishing this story out, but he's basing all of this on the supposed investigation someone else carried out, and Cam should get some credit for the. Yeah, I think that's smart.

I read through Cam's tweets on this, and honestly, it seems like activists organizing. There was one tweet where he had a screenshot of someone saying something like they were, quote, expected at home base, and Cam commented that he'd been unable to locate where this home base was, but that this was proof that the protesters had a headquarters. Seems to me like this person could have easily been talking about going home. They're expected by their spouse at home or something. Sometimes there's a colloquial language. Yeah.

This is an almost perfect Info Wars primary source. It's not really all that scandalous and no one's going to read the stuff that was posted. But the fact that it exists is enough to use as a base upon which you can build whatever you want. Protest signal groups were infiltrated by a social media dipshit. So now because that premise is true, you can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Make up whatever you want. Soros is in there. Who cares?

Absolutely. Are you going to go check through all of the screenshots to see of what. Alex is making up is true. Alex spent hours researching this. Absolutely. He read the script to one battle after another. Or at the very least, he got a couple of them that'll back him up, right? Saw some of Cam's tweets.

Yep, yep. Man, I do like how this is like, not only am I going to ignore the thing that is basically the death knell of any concept of principles, but I'm also going to talk about this extremely low-stakes dumbness. And that is going to... I can do hours on that. Hours. Hours on that. Man, that just sucks.

He should do some hours about the signal groups that his friends were in where they were planning on overthrowing the government on January 6th. Fake news. I mean, you know, here's the thing about that. Here's a good lesson. It's illegal until you win. And if you win, it's not illegal. Yep.

So legality is kind of a... Legality is an interesting concept. It's a Schrodinger's cat in a way. So Alex gets back to what you would describe as the most... important thing for him to be talking about, which is, of course, this murder. Yeah. And I think his take on it is bad. And when you spend all day showing the new video, the guy getting shot yesterday,

and we now have the HD of it. And it's clear that they thought he had another gun and a bunch of stuff fell on the ground and they got scared and said gun gun when they got his other gun and shot him. But they're not going to go to jail for it because they do it on purpose. They thought they were in danger. And he came with a gun and stuck himself in the middle. of a riot. That's like I have 35 a few miles from here.

People are driving 85 miles an hour on it. And if I just stood on the side of the road, just ran out in front of cars. Somebody hits me, it's not their fault. And it turns out this nurse seems like a nice guy who got killed. His family, with the messages are public, told him, don't do this, don't do this. Be smart.

I mean, I would not get anywhere near that. So the victim didn't bring a gun and decide to get involved in a riot. He went to a protest and legally carried a weapon, something Alex believes is him exercising his First and Second Amendment rights. Understood correctly, Alex is trying to argue that it's too dangerous and tantamount to suicide to exercise your rights if you're opposing Trump's government. They will kill you if they feel threatened and no courts are going to do anything about it. Alex believing that militarized police were willing to kill protesters and dissenters,

that's nothing new. That's been a future of his content forever. But it's important to recognize that he's not on the people's side anymore. If federal agents kill you because they were scared of how you were exercising your rights, well, it's a shame and you seem like a nice guy, but what do you expect to happen? Yeah. Fuck this. Yeah.

And I mean, but the other side of that is like, okay, so then if you are bringing a gun to a protest, you should be ready to murder people with it. I don't, I don't. You know? I don't know about that. No, in terms of Alex. Well, yes, if you're Alex, yeah. If you're saying like, hey, if the government, if you bring a gun to a protest and it's fine for the government to murder you, then you're saying don't bring a gun to a protest.

Or if you are bringing a gun to a protest, be aware that it is now a firefight. You know? I don't understand how he can, like, where the line is for any of that. Yeah. His messaging makes no sense whatsoever. Nope. and it's all in service of that old boot that he loves so much. You got to be paid way more.

You got to be paid a lot more. I just feel like you got to be paid a lot more, period, to do shit like this. Right. And that's kind of, you know, why I think there's two things that I think. I think it doesn't come down to money. I think that there's something else. Sure. But then secondarily, I think that this isn't really a betrayal of all the things that

No, no, no, no, no. He was lying then. I agree. Like, this is as true as he can ever be to himself. Right. He does not give a fuck if you get shot with a gun. Right. He doesn't care about you, like, having a right to have a gun.

He just doesn't want his white Christian extremist friends to not have guns. Agreed. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm just saying that if you've built up this brand of being the guy who does this stuff, that's leverage. That's a higher paycheck. you're not using it appropriately if you're not extorting money from the government. No, that's true.

And I think he should rightly be recognizing the amount of danger that he is putting himself in. Absolutely. The gun rights absolutists are real. I wouldn't betray them. Yeah, I think a lot of those right-wing audiences that have been radicalized by his actions and people like his actions. Yeah. I think a lot of them would see this kind of behavior as like, all right. right man, you are a betrayer.

Yeah. Like, I don't know. It strikes me as something they would not like. I mean, I would be worried if I were here. I can't imagine any sort of unintended consequences coming from a bunch of shit-talking lunatics, radicalizing a bunch of gun-toting lunatics as well. Yeah. Probably going to be fine.

So Alex earlier brought up a story about ICE taking a kid. And he gets back to that a little bit. Right. I mean, I've experienced the crime wave of this. So have you. and so nobody humanizes that though you know the name of the board patrol agents shot and killed last year do you know the names of the ice agents shot

you got to look them up but you know the names of the few people that ice is killed and they go oh this five-year-old boy outside of school they grabbed him his bait no his dad ran off illegal alien with a big rap sheet they just took him into the school they admit now that wasn't true but it's a matter oh, they're me the little boy with this blue octopus hat on.

So all they have is this emotion and manipulation. All that stuff Alex is saying in that clip is a lie. Five-year-old Liam Ramos was taken by ICE and the Border Patrol in the front yard of his home. Witnesses on the scene have said that it was clear that they were trying to hold this child to lure his mother out of her home so they could snatch her up to because they didn't have the ability to enter the house. The mother refused to come outside so her child was taken and brought to a detention center where his father was already being held. His father was a legal resident of the United States,

having applied for asylum in 2024, after leaving Ecuador, and following the steps that are required to go through for that process. He does not have a long criminal rap sheet, and in fact, CNN was unable to find any criminal record for the father, either in the United States or in Ecuador. Alex is lying about this case because it's indefensible. And, uh, yeah, that's it.

Yep. I mean, I mean, it is, it is like, oh, those people are real. How about that? How about that? How about monsters? Monsters are real. Yeah. So the best thing you can probably do is just lie about them to make everyone feel better for supporting those monsters.

Yeah. So, look, they're targeted as hell, right? They know what they're doing? Not enough. They're out there. They got warrants. And they're just like, they're taking care of business. T.C.B.

Who's giving them warrants? But that's important. But look, here's the thing. They don't just go around picking up anybody. But then sometimes they do, and that's fine too. Oh, okay. But also they're really targeted. All right.

Fair enough. They say in the Podesca plan that we put articles up, Breitbart report on it, New York Times, it's got a link to it. You know, they call it what to do if Trump wins the election. That's the battle plan's actual name. And it says when they go out to do regular ICE enforcement, which is just the interior border. Patrol, Immigration Customs Enforcement.

They also, when people are making fake NFL jersees or whenever they go raid the swap meets, it's their job. And they just act like they're just, they're not police, it's all illegal, there's no warrants, that's not true. And on, on, on. It's court orders, administrative warrants, and regular warrants. They always have one. That's when they broke in a few weeks ago with the FBI manager's car.

they're like, look at all this. They know where these people live and that they're not citizens and what they do and everything. Well, yeah. And look, they got arrest warrants here for them. They got court. Yeah.

They just show up somewhere randomly. Look over somebody. I mean, they've done some stuff like a home depost. You know, we've got like 20 illegals out front every hour. They've scooped them up too because Trump did. They say they did, but I've confirmed they have. They've got, quote, which I don't think is a good idea.

I said day one, and they kind of did this, but kind of didn't. I said, just focus on the people with huge criminal records. But ICE is like, well, okay, well, when we're out doing this, we run out other people that are illegally, and wants to get them? So you can't have it both ways. Either ICE is disciplined and they're actually out hunting down super criminal targets, or they're randomly picking up people they suspect might be in the country illegally in a big dragnet. If they're rounding up large groups from the Home Depot, then their operations are not targeted. Alex understands the difference and he doesn't care.

This is bullshit. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting when trying to defend them, you only make it more obvious that they're a state-back terrorist organization. Yeah. Right? And they have quotas and are lying about it. I mean, yeah, like that's the craziest thing. Oh, so they're a state-back terrorist organization that has no law or oversight whatsoever.

And if you're giving them a warrant, I guess you're part of it? Yeah. Hey, judge. Judge, go fuck yourself who thinks that you're not a bad guy. You're in ice now. It's shocking how much they're just going after their targets who are horrible criminals. And also, sometimes they just pick up a bunch of people. You know, it's like.

Yeah, it's like. Randomly and see if any of them are criminals because it's fun. Yeah, they went after all the horrible criminals on week one. There were about eight. And then they were like, well, it turns out maybe all of our propaganda is bullshit. So instead, let's just grab random people. I honestly think that's generous of you. I know.

I know. So Alex gets back to the guy who got shot. Sure. And yeah, he seems to have decided to go with the metaphor of like it's playing in traffic. This guy was playing in traffic. Yeah, they had a million people protesting up there this weekend and one guy with a gun and he gets tackled. And then there's stuff flying around and things falling out and clips on the ground and gun, gun, and in hysteria, he gets shot. Yeah.

don't play in traffic. Saddie's dead. But the point is they created the chaos and said they're going to create the chaos to get this done. So they started it. It's their plan to do this. They're the bad guys. Again, ISIS is 10,000 enforcers on the enforcement side against 40 million illegals. I'm surprised under the incredible pressure they're in that they haven't had more mistakes, you could say.

but it wasn't intentional and he came to that event and he was armed and that's what happens so they will not be convicted believe me they're not happy about that they're going to get lawyers they're going to get sued they're going to get docs there trying to not do that but they're like gun gun gun he had a gun

bunch of stuff falls out on the ground they think it's a gun boom boom boom boom boom boom that's they're highly trained folks these are almost all former police and military they're not hiring whims as you can see and but they're also not playing around folks they're out there being screamed at and attacked

all day long surrounded and then you want to go insert yourself the middle of it you're asking for it folks it'd be like if there was a 50 mile an hour 100 mile an hour windstorm and I went up to Mount Belette Mount Bennell in Austin the highest point and stood on the edge of a cliff and then I get blown off the cliff and I'm like

oh my God I'm gonna die well yeah I mean you don't get in high wind and stay on the edge of a freaking cliff don't play in traffic So it's important to understand the conceptual framework Alex is operating in here. This guy who federal agents killed has to be blamed for his own death because every other conclusion requires you to re-examine whether or not ICE should be operating how they do. And Alex, if he teases that threat out, has to become an enemy of the state. There's no other direction to go with it.

The only thing that makes his death in any way debatable is the fact that he had a gun on him. That doesn't make the shooting justified, but it's the big what about. that the Trump media has chosen to latch on to, as seen by so many members of the administration and other media figures. It's the variable that makes this an unfortunate accident instead of a murder. So a guy with a gun at a protest is to blame for their own death if the feds kill him. That's the standard that we're starting with. But right off the bat, it's clear that Alex wouldn't defend that.

He's loved gun-toting protesters in the past, and multiple times he's had guests on his show only because they were on local TV carrying big guns at protests against Obama. Yep. From that, we learned that it can't just be the act of carrying a gun at a protest that Alex feels is like playing in traffic, where if you do it, you're to blame for your own death. That means we need to figure out what the variables are here that make it okay. It seems like the next meaningful factor Alex goes into is that the Democrats and globalists have raised the temperature and created a dangerous environment.

So if one side is escalating and creating social unrest, then it's okay for the feds to kill you if you're at a protest with a gun. But this can't be Alex's position either, because he was very aggressive about supporting the heavily armed trucker protests during COVID. They were creating a very heightened dangerous environment and tons of them were openly carrying guns. Certainly, Alex wouldn't just shake his head and say, oh, what a shame, if one of those protesters, one of those people, was killed because the feds got scared. The next thing Alex seems to bring up is that there were people yelling and this guy got killed. He put himself in the center of things. This one is the easiest variable to dismiss because that's just a guy exercising his First Amendment rights. So Alex can't possibly think that that's what justifies his death. So after we take in the rationalizations that Alex has to offer, we don't really

come away with any clarity. We hope for some kind of actual explanation for why this situation is different, why this is an instance of the feds killing a citizen that's okay for Alex, whereas in the past, that would have marked the beginning of 1776 part two. And the unfortunate truth that you have to come to is that the joke is on us for imagining that there's a depth to the question at all. We demand a depth because the clown made us think that. But the truth is Alex just doesn't believe the people who disagree with them deserve rights. Yeah.

That's it. Yep, on a rolling basis. Yeah. On a day to day. But, I mean, that is, that is kind of the truth of the malignant narcissist psychopath. Yeah. I don't really believe anybody else is real. So there's that.

Yeah. And I'm hip to that. And I think that's great. No, I don't think it's great. But it can't be policy. Right. No, I mean, it is. We can't live in a world where that kind of capriciousness dictates rights.

I know the, like, who determines who. who's a malignant narcissist and who gets to determine who gets to do what and whatnot. But if, again, I feel like we have created something of a Mendoza line in Alex. If you do Alex shit, no. No. I don't even care. I don't even need to know details. No.

If you're doing Alex shit, no. The end. I can't argue with that. I mean, I think it needs to be fleshed out, but no is a good response. Just if Alex's never again law, anything that Alex does is illegal now. No one can drink water again. Fine. You know what?

You're not going to drink water anymore and then the problem will solve itself. Jokes on you. I drink Diet Dr. Pepper. Anyway, we got one last clip. And it's just, I think I can't stand listening to this shot voice. Yeah. And he's already made all the points that he needs to make. Yeah.

This is an invasion to break our country, Cloward and Piven, replaced it migration, on record. The Podesta plan is to use this to trigger a civil war. We have them. So, yeah, I'll individually get on ice, when somebody makes a mistake or does something wrong, but they are responding to the takeover.

They are the literal front line in the attempt to take down of this country. Look at the thankless job, the David versus Goliath job. Look at the attacks. yeah they're warriors they're heroes and some listeners want to say oh my god you're sucking the weenie of the police state no I'm not

the police state is the Democrats and the left and them wanting to take our kids and brainwashes and take our speech when you have illegal aliens run by the Democratic Party committing mass crimes and the left telling their people go out and riot and we've still got men and women willing to go out there and face this attack

to do their job to get child molesters arsonists, murderers, bank robbers, carjackers, all the streets, let me tell you, I wouldn't take guys' job because I'm going to tell you right now. Somebody sort of spitting in my face and hits me in the head

with a big old piece of ice, I go crazy. Somebody rams my car, I wouldn't be as controlled as they are. Oh, good. You wouldn't be as controlled as the people who just killed a guy. Yeah.

I don't know how you can be less controlled, but whatever. I think that this is pathetic. Yeah. Yeah, I imagine this is exactly what it must have been like to, like, listen to a member of the clan talk shortly after they had just lynched an innocent dude. Mm-hmm. Just like, well, yeah, well, they're all criminals and shit. And it's like, you know they're not.

You know you're a murderer. You know, you know what it's like. You know what it's like? It's like watching somebody who is too much of a coward to admit that he's part of the clan. Yeah. Justifying a lynching after it's happened. Yep. Totally.

that's like oh they were under threat they had right they because Alex Alex is too much of a fucking coward to put on the hood yep like I'm not saying hey there's some dignity in being a member of the clan or anything like that if that's the lesson you take away from this show good fucking luck to you yeah no Alex won't even own up to yeah you're right the fact that that's where his heart is no he'll he'll say that the clan doesn't even exist you're the one making it up in fact it's everybody else is the The Civil Rights Movement. And then they're just trying to, yeah.

No, it is like, if you are this, then not only do I not think that you can make it back. I will also not allow you to make it back. Oh, absolutely not. And not even like, I don't even mean like become a better person. Fuck off. You are a piece of shit. If you try and turn your life around, I will come to your house and make you feel like a piece of shit more. Yeah.

You know? Like you should, for the rest of your life, be hounded and miserable. Well, whether or not hounded and miserable is true because I don't know if, you know, people need to be stocked and harassed. I'm not going to hire somebody to do it. Right. And I'm all, here's where I want to agree with you. Yeah. There isn't a road back.

No, that can't be. There is no, like this will be to the rest of Alex's life. Yep. for his legacy, I want to get to the point where eventually he tries to change his brand. Yeah. Because you can't. Yeah. And I think I just, I don't, I don't know.

Yeah. This can't possibly, I mean, it's obviously not the first time that Alex's had positions that were like strongly counter to his gun rights. Sure, sure, sure. But again, it's fucking flagrant. Yeah, you can. It's brazen. And as we're seeing, because we're recording this on the. 27th. The tide's shifting a little bit. The Trump administration is starting to feel the heat

a little bit about like this one not being good. We'll see. So what does Alex do then? Says that it's also smart for them to, here's what you do. You say that it's smart to pretend to take responsibility for this just to give them one and then you can make them go away and yada, yada, yada. This is a tactical move. It's a strategic move. It doesn't mean they're admitting guilt because they'll never admit guilt for anything and that guy should have been killed but strategically the smart move is to give one to the mob we're going to find out if that is his take on our next episode but until then um fuck this shit yeah uh we have a website indeed we do it's knowledge fight dot com yep we'll be back but until then i'm neyo i'm leo i'm dzc

clark i am the mysterious professor who yeah and now here comes the sex robots andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.