Knowledge Fight - #1119: February 21, 2026

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan see how Alex is doing in the present day, and find him rambling about cannibalism, complaining a lot about Trump, and seeming on the cusp of turning on Steve Bannon again.

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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. A couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about. Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you.

What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot is it's February. In the spirit of tradition and graciousness, I would love you to go first. Okay, I will go first. I would say that my bright spot is that earlier today, my wife and I went to visit her moms, and we got to play with a puppy. Whoa. My friend.

You have three at home. We do. but this one's even smaller. Oh, wow. It's so small. How tiny is it? Oh, man, it's so small. And she was running around, jumping on everything.

I barked at her, and it blew her fucking mind. Do you think she didn't know barks yet? She didn't. Not least of which she had never seen a man before, because it's an all-lady rotation of people that she's seen. So my bearded face blew her mind. Then when I barked at her, she was like, ah, what just happened?

It was amazing. Crazy. It was crazy. I love that you get to probably see like wide-eyed excitement out of this puppy. Oh. That's a beautiful. You bottle that. Absolutely.

They have no regard for life or limb. Just absolute missile at everything. How old are we talking of a dog here? Six months. Okay. Or maybe five months. Something like that. Okay.

So it's not like a week. It's not that small. I was picturing teen. tiny. Oh man, we get pictures of those things and those little rats. They're so helpless and cute and ah. So cute. Just want to pet them. Yeah. Park at them. Yep.

So what's your bright spot? Well, I thought for today's bright spot I could do a little roundup of some novelty things. Okay. Novelty bullshit that I've tried. All right. So I tried a there's a cherry What is it? Cherry float

Coke. Cherry float Coke. Cherry float Coke Zero. All right. All right. Trash. Yeah, that sounds impossible to make good.

Yeah, it was no good. Yeah. Lemon meringue M&Ms. All right. Lemon meringue pie. That's on the edge. Yeah, they were fine. Okay.

You know, it's too soft of a flavor for an M&M though. You want something with a little bit more hit than a lemon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there was also, a peanut butter cinnamon roll M&M. All right.

Which I thought was weird because I don't associate peanut butter and cinnamon rolls. It's hard to imagine those two fitting together, but I'm intrigued. Yeah, they were fine as a thing. Yeah. But like I looked at it, it seemed forced. Yeah. The concept for the flavor. The peanut butter M&M and the peanut Eminem are perfect constructions and need no changes

or adjustments. You don't want a little bit of cinnamon in that? I mean, you can put a little bit of cinnamon. there, but you know what it is? It's a peanut butter Eminem with a little bit of cinnamon. It's not like a peanut butter cinnamon Eminem. You'll never have a peanut butter cinnamon. Simidimidim.

Simidim. Eminem. Yeah, it doesn't. It's not helping things much. Yeah. There's also a cherry chocolate cheesecake Eminem. Okay. But the store was out.

So I couldn't get those. But it's a trio of new flavors. All right. All right. Yeah, so two of them were fine. Third TBB. cherry float Coke stinks. This has been the novelty bullshit report.

You know, sometimes it's hard to go back and think McGiver only had one flavor of Coke. Well, two flavors, if they still had new Coke around. Well, diet, is that a flavor? I suppose diet counts, yeah. Cherry Coke came around at some point, but probably not by then. I mean, back then I was still putting regular cherry into my coat. You put in little syrup.

would put a little cherry syrup in there. I would make my own cherry Coke. You're an innovator. I blew this world apart with my brilliance. You should be a millionaire. You invented cherry coat. I did. I did.

Yeah. I'm thinking back, I don't remember there being as many soda flavors. Yeah. For sure. Back then, it was pretty simple. Everyone was so excited about the clear Pepsi. Yeah. Yeah.

But it was supposed to, it was still supposed to taste like Pepsi was just Pepsi. Or diet Pepsi. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But then it was clear. And then it was clear. Yeah. Anyway, today we got an episode to go over here.

All right. All right. We're going to be back in the present day today. Mm-hmm. And I was going, I was looking around of seeing, hey, what's up? Alex did a special Saturday episode on February 21st. And I thought, great. I love a Saturday episode.

Yeah, absolutely. Let's see how he's doing. Yeah. He's great. I believe it. So we'll get down to a bunch of kids. cannibalism nonsense. But first, let's take a moment to say hello to some new walks.

That's a great idea. So first, proud of Jess for completing her first semester of law school. All the legal advice she's already been offering, we prove she's a natural, especially considering we live in different states. From Ian, thank you so much. You're now, a policy walk. I'm a policy walk. Thank you very much.

Next, praise the holy God emperor of mankind. Thank you so much. You're now, policy walk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And David, when you thought Sam, and I ruined your relationship with your girlfriend in a dream.

That was true. We inceptioned you, Sucka. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much, too. I get why you stop doing it, but I really miss hearing Jordan go, ba, ba, ba, bah, with the daddy shark clip. Can we get one for old time's sake? Maybe. Depends on whether or not we press the right button. I don't remember which is which. Nope.

So here we go. I'm a policy wonk. I have risen above my enemies. I might quit tomorrow, actually. I'm just going to take a little breaky down. A little breaky for me. And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over.

But I'm the devil. I got to be taking it off there. I'm going to all this. Blu-b-b-blah-b-bh-bh. Fuck you. I got plenty of words for you. But at the end of the day, fuck you in your new world order

and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. Maybe today should be on this broadcast. I mean, maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. That's what I want to do. I never want to come back here again. I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.

I'll be better tomorrow. Bob, pop, pop, pop, blah, blah. Yeah, I fit it in there. So, yeah, no, you can't win them all. Sometimes you get the wrong one. That's roulette for you, yeah. So we start off today. There's big news that Alex needs to cover, and that is that Prince Andrew has been arrested.

And there's a lot of Epstein stuff going around. Sure. A lot of chaos. Yeah. Howard Lutnik is all over the Epstein files. Sure. And then also is maybe in some hot water after the Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs weren't good. Sure.

And maybe unconstitutional. Buh. So Alex, Alex needs to get ahead of all of this stuff. And he does it the only way. he knows how by talking about cannibalism and adrenaline. That works. It is Saturday, the 21st day of February, 2026. I am your host coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas

and the Alex Jones Network backup studios. The entire globalist system is in free fall. The arrest last week or this week of Prince Andrew shows the globalists they're not above the law. And the House of Cards is coming down. We now have Palace Guard. Except for the ones who are. coming on exposing the illegal activity. The fact that the King of England's done this

shows they're cutting and running. He is more involved than even his brother in hardcore Satanism, cannibalism, dendrinochrome, blood drinking up and exposing this for 32 years. There have been thousands of articles in the UK about it. Jimmy Sevel, it's unbelievable. So we're back to Pizza Gate. Wow.

Israel kind of stuff. How about that? That's exciting. We're doing this season all over again. I mean, I would say that for maybe, let's put it this way, for the common person, PizzaGate is more believable now than it was back in PizzaGate times. Unfortunately. Yeah.

I'm not saying it is believable. I'm just saying that relatively speaking to the current reality that is less unreal than it used to be. Yep. Yep. That shows deterioration over time. It's not our fault. So I also think it's fun. you know, Alex is bringing up Jimmy Sevel.

Sure. And I just rewatched the bone temple. How's that? We did the same thing. Yeah. Couldn't, as soon as it was available, I had to watch it again. And, uh, great. Fantastic movie.

My review holds up. Spectacular. But I want to hear what Alex thinks about the Jimmy's. Yeah. I really want to. Absolutely. He's got to think like this is glorifying Sevel or something like this. I mean, yeah.

Some sort of like real sciop to get in your heads. Yeah. And in all, in many. That's the most ambiguous part of the film. Is they're like, are you fucking with me about Jimmy or what? What are we doing here? Well, I mean, from the standpoint of the character or from Danny Boyle. Exactly.

From Danny Boyle's point of view. I guess more Alex Garland. Right. Wow, that's right. Because of the Sir, because it's Sir Lord Jimmy Crystal. Yeah. And we never addressed that he's wearing a famous Jimmy costume. Yeah, yeah.

But the world ended before Jimmy Sevel got outed as a horrible. as a horrible, horrible monster. Absolute chaos. So, Jimmy can't be fucking with you. Alex Garland could be. He could be. There's a statement in there, but not from Jimmy. Right, right, right.

Jimmy just thinks Jimmy Sevel is a good dude. Right. It's like if he, it's like if he was wearing a Woody Allen outfit in the 60s, where you're like, I mean, you would know. If there was a zombie outbreak in the, yeah, in the 60s. And there were the Woody's. Oh, God. Anyway, I want Alex to watch that. I want a review.

Yeah, absolutely. So Alex is, you know, there's stuff coming out about Howard Lutnik. Sure. And Alex remembers something. Oh, shit. He was involved in doing 9-11. I totally forgot. And then you got Howard Ludnig through his company and his sons betting against the tariffs

that they would be rejected by the Supreme Court and buying up all of the insurance claims that could have been filed to potentially make big. billions and billions of dollars. Absolutely well. Then I was reminded from old interviews and news, Max Kaiser from back on 9-11, that it was his company did the record put options against the airlines days before, as well he magically wasn't at work at the same company.

So this is bad, folks, absolutely out of control. Oh, man, you, I mean, you probably should have been more upset about the fact that he's Trump's Secretary of Commerce. but he did not he knew about 9-11 ahead of time is the argument Alex is making here. I mean, here's my problem with that is that I feel like that means that we could have handled it whenever it was just maybe the worst terrorist attack in all of history. You know, that might be a problem that we could have dealt with. But instead we're going to wait until he's all over the Epstein files. Sure.

I also don't think that Alex has a good handle on what it is that Howard Lutnik's accused of in terms of the, the tariff stuff. Yeah. But who cares? Yeah. We're not here for accuracy. He's not going to, it's never going to help. No, but he did 9-11 and Alex has just mysteriously remembered this thing that he was

supposed to, is supposed to be the most important thing in his career. I just feel like you can't have done 9-11 and it just be a line item in your, in your obituary, you know, like, oh, he was a good dude, he was a good father, he was a raised, you know, did 9-11. he was also pretty good at stock tips, you know, like all that stuff. Like, 9-11 feels real top billing. Yeah, I think the problem is that Alex is accused pretty much everyone of doing 9-11. That is a good point.

And so, you know, if you're, it is a footnote. Right. Alex has accused them of being 9-11. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a good point. Yeah, one of many. So the Epstein emails that have come out. Yeah. There's a fair amount of stuff about hunting humans.

Great. There's the most dangerous game. Sure. All right. There's so many places to go with the 3 million plus Epstein files that the DOJ made it as hard as they could to search. They only let you search with each search 10 items. That means it would take one person, you know, 100 years ago through it all, literally. But because of human crowdsourcing, folks are digging through it.

And I'll go to bed at midnight and wake up at 4 a.m. And there's thousands of things to look at the next, more insane than the last. But here's something I want to just focus on right now. because we have a lot of past on this. If you look at the live show feed, what a headline. Epstein Files are full of the establishment globalist, so-called elites, discussing not just eating humans and drinking blood and sex slaves being delivered in satanic rituals, but hunting of humans.

New Epstein Files talk about deranged elites hunting and killing humans, including groups of blacks, referred to as moon crickets. I love how I'm learning new racist terms all the time for these files. I mean, what the hell is that? I'm told, you know what a moon cricket is? Look online. A moon cricket. So here's what I want to say.

Yeah. I think Alex is sincere that he likes learning new slurs. I agree. I agree. Yeah. And I mean, I do also, I share a little bit of perverse curiosity there as well, but not for the same reason. Yeah. Yeah.

So the email that Alex is talking about, it'll come up a bit more over the course of this episode. I don't know if it proves. that anyone was hunting anybody. Sure. But I do think they're racist. I think that there's some racism that's definitely expressed. Strong belief there. But, you know, I can never really get all that excited for these.

We've figured out the codes of like this means they're all hunting human. Let me, okay, let me combine these two things with you. All right. First off, I've said this before. I've said it many times. There has to be a clone out there, right? We've got enough unethical people. Somebody, yeah, somebody's cloned somebody out there.

Let's imagine there's a lot of clones. Now, if we're using those clones for human hunting, is that okay? No. Is that ethical human hunting? Immediately no. Immediately no? Yeah. You're not willing to entertain the thought that you can't have a soul.

Nope. Okay, fair enough. Also, I wanted to move off this topic because I got excited about the idea of a clone Temple, Bone Temple. Well, I mean, one would definitely lead to the other. One would help. Yep. Yeah.

It would at least build a higher tower. Hunting of the clones would lead to bones. It's poetry. That is. Yep. So Alex discusses how there's a rich history in the world of rich people, hunting people. Yep. I'm going to move quick here so we can get to it all.

Yeah, there's a bunch of this stuff. and you've got all these witnesses telling the FBI decades ago and years ago about being hunted at Zorro Ranch, hunted at Epstein Island. And then you've got Kathy O'Brien talking about it. Then you've got UN reports. And when the UN has been caught hunting, setting up human hunting parties. I'm sorry? My first film, America Destroyed by Design made in 96. I made it recent early 97.

that's 29 years ago. We talk about the UN and show news articles back to, and expect that the corporate news was better. They were still control, but they got some truth about the UN having these hunting parties for humans in Africa. Well, look at this. BBC. Italy investigates claims of terrorists paying to shoot civilians in Bosnia in 1990s.

It's not claims. It's all well documented. So at this point, I'm imagining that Alex is regretting making such a big deal out of one battle after another and civil war. Those movies seemed so in line with his storyline that he forgot about the hunt, the one about the elites paying to hunt people that was supposed to be super anti-Trump. But Alex's audience lost interest in that movie pretty quickly. If he'd stuck with that, it would have been a gamble, but it would be paying off big right now.

I thought the fact that the rich people paying to kill civilians in Bosnia coming up was super interesting, given the fact that we've been back in 2006 covering Milosovich's death and Alex's response to it. One of the reasons that this is bizarre is the article Alex's reporting on from the BBC is about very rich people paying Serb forces to let them come to their fortified positions and shoot civilians. These were the Serb forces that were aligned with Milosovich, who Alex thought didn't do anything wrong. I believe this could have happened, but I'm not sure. The bigger point, though, is that Alex is certain that this did happen. and he doesn't even realize that the atrocity he's trying to pin on the globalists was being carried out by the side he was pretending was opposing the globalists back then

because there's no continuity and nothing means anything. Yeah, man. Woof, that is a coincidence. Mm-hmm. That is, him suddenly bringing that up is a coincidence and I don't appreciate it. No. It makes me feel very uncomfortable. It's the return of my witch vibes.

I don't like that at all. No, thank you. No, thank you. So, you know, the elites, they do this kind of stuff. I think they did it in the purge too. No. Well, I think they did it in one of the purges. Yeah, yeah.

At least one of the purges that were human hunts. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. And some of them were like unofficial human hunts. People just get together and hunt. I think it's, I think here's my theory on it. I think it's overblown as a fun activity. I don't think it would be that much fun. to hunt a human. No, probably not.

But they do stuff like this in order to test initiates. Sure. Right? They want to see if you're willing to do it. Would you go hunt a human? Yeah, yeah. And then Alex makes a dumb comparison. Let's start plowing into this. Okay. Let's

let's get into this first big subject now. With the poison shots, with the 5G, with the transgenderism, with everything they do, it's about we're animals, we're slaves, We're garbage. They control us.

And it's about going through the establishment, going through the different systems of academia, military, law enforcement, culture, banking, and finding people that will do horrible, evil stuff. And I've used this example many times because it's on record. Why do they have horrible metal experiments on animals that are pointless? Fauci does that for decades and decades. The latest was hundreds and hundreds of beagles,

larynx is removed, chained down with the bag over their head, with flesh-eating worms. It's just to see if the medical staff will do it. It's a test. It's like gangs have go kill a liquor store owner, go rape a girl, MS-13 to a satanic ritual. It's to see if you'll do horrible things and have dirt on you.

Nurses also do those things? Right, a passage. To get you to fully commit to evil so they've got your soul, and they've got your ass. What is Emperor Palpatine in Revenge of the Sith's said to Darth Vader? He's just become Darth Vader. Those eyes haven't turned yellow yet. That's the archetype.

So it's a metaphor. He says, go to the Jedi temple and kill all the young... Is it a metaphor? You'll be strong enough at the dark side to save me. They're telling you how this all works. They're telling you how this thing operates. Okay, so no, but also, Emperor Palpatine didn't want Anakin to kill the Jedi's as a test to see if he would do bad stuff. No.

He wants the Jedi dead. The Jedi being dead is like a huge thing for the Sith. Yeah. They're all about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like just random crime to see if your soul is corruptible. No.

It was critical. Yeah, and actually also very dangerous. It's not like, oh, go kill a helpless person. These people also have lightsabers. And less dangerous when it's the children. Sure. I think that's what made that scene particularly, you know, horrifying. I'm with you.

But I don't know. I feel like 30 children with lightsabers should probably win that fight. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Yes. Light sabers are a crazy force equalizer. You know, like it's... Right.

Even if, okay, I guess maybe if he's, if he could just, like, throw them all at the same time, then it's like, well, fine. You know, you've got too much force powers. But if we're just, like, why even open up your lightsaber if you're going to throw them all away and they've got like 30 little lightsabers? Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. But whatever the case, it was not a test. And so this metaphor doesn't work. I think he just wanted to do the voice. Yep, that does sound right. So, it's unfortunately time to deal with the elephant in the room. What's that? Trump.

And the fact that, man, he won't stop making this about himself. Yeah, that's probably not smart. And it won't stop telling people that they should shut up about it. That's not smart either. Here's Trump, again, always making it about him. Because, yeah, they're bringing out the Epstein to try to get Trump. We've never seen him involved in any of the crime. But by extension, the DOJ has covered up, slow-rolled.

He's not been obfuscated, told us there's no new documents, and there are all these new documents. But here's Trump again saying, well, I'm not in it. I'm not bad, so let's just move on. No. Ludnick lived next door. Luddnick's in all these businesses. Luddnick, now we learn something. I want a whole bunch. Luddnick lied.

Now we know Luddnick wrote your executive order, and Kavanaugh said, it's constitutional what you did, but he wrote the executive order wrong on the tariffs. Now we learn they bought up all of the insurance policies on the $160. $75 billion on the tariffs that have been overturned, 80% of them, and his family, their counter Fitzgerald, same ones that bet on the airlines plunging a week before 9-11. He was out of the world trade center that day. His employees weren't. So this all sounds worse than anything else that I've heard him accused, like, politicians of being involved in.

Like, right? I mean, like, he's painting a picture of Trump as like, this fucking dude sucks. Right? Yeah. There's no other way to describe it. Yes. And the closeness, again, with somebody who knowingly did 9-11, seems wild to me, considering the amount of anti-9-11 problems we have.

Well, and how many cool people Trump has around him advising him and how much Trump knows about the New World Order and all that stuff. This seems like a real mistake he shouldn't be possible to make. And how many of those people. were definitely not his own appointees who he chose specifically, thus giving himself some sort of responsibility as well for their actions. They're just random people who walked in off the street. Yeah. So I think that Alex really is in a negative place with Trump.

Now, don't get me wrong. He still loves him. Well, I mean, he's 92% maybe the best thing that's ever happened to this entire earth. Right. But this all sounds really bad. Like, this guy won't, like, every single fucking time it comes. up he's defensive. Yeah.

Every single time. He tells people to move on and, no, come on, man. Wow. It's almost like if somebody brings up Sandy Hook, he says the exact same shit every fucking time and ask people to stop talking about it. Almost like a very strong sense of projected guilt. Yeah. Oh, well.

Huh. So Alex realizes that this is pretty obvious to everybody. Yeah. And he also is like, I'm not going to stop supporting Trump. Obviously. So he tries to over intellectual. his position. I like it. So here's Trump. Again, I'm explaining this. People that hate Trump don't get it. People that love Trump don't get it. And I think you're smart. So I'm explaining

this real slowly. It's a scale. Yes, Trump is way, way better with getting us out of the UN carbon tax. It'll save billions of lives and finding half the missing kids that the Democrat shipped in for sex slavery and slave labor. And all the other great things take an hour and a half to go through. Didn't take you very long to get through those. A big arm of the globalist hate his ass, but he's brought in a bunch of bad people. They're not prosecuting any of the bad guys to speak of. Andrew's been arrested over there, but nothing over here.

The DOJ tells us, Epstein Act alone, go to sleep. They've put Gisland Maxwell in the nicest federal prison in the country here in Texas. Yeah. With their own companion animal. These are a list of evidentiary. No, we're not moving on. And we're not the Democrats. that will do whatever the party says.

We are the populace using the Republicans to try to get the republic back. And Trump wrote it on that way. So I will expose Trump for this, but I'll also spend most by time on the Democrats what they're up to. They hope to just only have to make it about Trump. No, we'll expose Trump.

It will expose you as well. But the white pillars say, oh, you're undermining Trump. No, these actions are in the whole country. The black pillars are either Democrats or they just say we're all damn screw Trump. No, I support Kennedy. I support Tulsi-Gab, I support good Republican candidates.

that are light day and night compared Democrats. Sure. And I will hang this whole thing around the Democrats and leftist parties worldwide because they're the ones at the center of it. And I will then say, but Trump is joining in on it. See that?

Yeah. The see, I see. I mean, he's just trying to overcomplicate and make it sound more, like, defensible to have a lesser of two evils position. Yeah, absolutely. Even then you're like, I'm going to keep up with the Democrat.

You've won. You've argued your case perfectly, and it's an anti-Trump case. Yep. Even including all the stuff that the Democrats are evil with, I think they're right around the same, right? And that's you saying it. Yeah. You're saying they're exactly the same. Yeah.

And that Trump is like willingly covering it up. Yeah, that last part where you said, and he's working with the globalist too, should tell you all you need to know. It seems like it should be disqualifying, but it does. It's not if it's just like, hey, would you rather have AOC? Would you rather, would you rather you have Kamala? You know, I wonder if it is actually a good policy position for the Democrats to have no presence whatsoever, right? Because then it's like, I don't know, maybe I do want them. I don't know what they're doing at all.

What you have told me sounds maybe true, but also it sounds like a cartoon supervillain? Sure. I mean, like, if, yeah, if they're doing nothing and everything, is super duper bad. Right. I choose nothing. I'll choose total. I will choose ineffectual losers 100% of the time compared to this, right?

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. So Alex is in this position where he's like, fuck, this is all real guilt stuff. Yeah. This is bad. It looks bad. I can't go along with Trump doing this. Tough.

But also, like, what do you do? Like, if your dad kills someone. Yeah. Do you snitch? And I'm watching all the good Trump's doing and just going, but I have a more. responsibility that my dad's the greatest guy ever, never saw anything, you know, anything criminal or bad or whatever. But let's just say, hypothetically, that I go visit my dad next week and he's burying a dead body

in the backyard. And I'm going to find out, was that a good person or a bad person? Now, if he had some reason to do it, and I think it was moral, maybe I'll cover up for my dad, but it's not going to happen anyways. The point is, I would not go along with it. Okay, it sounds like you might go along with it. It feels like you've just said you probably go along with it based upon the way that you've talked about stuff like this before.

If your dad convinces you it was a bad person and that it's a justified kill, you might go along with this. Yeah. Maybe not. What does this mean? You know, the problem for a lot of people is not deciding in advance whether or not they would do it. Even in this situation, being indecisive seems unhelpful. Mm-hmm.

And this is a hypothetical. Yeah, it's an attempt at a metaphor. Right. I think he failed. Yeah, he failed pretty hard. I think he's trying to say that he would snitch on his dad. Right. Because it's like, well, yeah, you just can't go along with these kinds of things.

But he hedged his bets in the middle of it. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And I think that that wishy-washy, waffly feeling is really what this episode, like, it just makes you feel. Yeah. Like there's this, ah, fuck, Trump is doing all this terrible stuff, but I can't really do anything. Yeah. And he starts talking about...

I'd help my dad cover up a dead body. Totally. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know if I would. But what about Steve Bannon? Oh, well, that one's easier to... Alex is a little bit on the fence about Steve.

Now, let's be clear. Trump knows a lot more than he's letting on. If you look back... That's too much! Five years ago, he said, sloppy Steve Bannon has got an Epstein problem. I saw that email again this... Or that's his statement again today.

And I like Steve Bannon. He's very smart. I haven't spoken about it yet because it's going to be a deep dive and I'm going to do it in a few days and really, you know, tell you what's going on there. But why is Trump saying he's got an Epstein problem? And now the email's been released of them buying him a plane ticket to get to the island. And Steve needs to respond to that. But I can look at everything in there and I know what it was going on.

And I'm going to not defend Steve and not attack Steve. I'm just going to state the facts. Steve Bannon has moved the needle against the globalist big time. and in these emails he's overthrowing the labor party getting the Brexit people in and he's working with Epstein you're like what is that he's you know he because Epstein

was the real head of the Trilateral Commission now I don't put on the Ring of Mordor I don't go to D.C. I don't go to New York I can do all that I've had these groups try to meet with me all that stuff over the years I met with some of them off record not ever than Epstein but you know people above him and said no I'm not for sale

but the point is that Bannon was never for sale. He was a Hollywood producer and a stock guy, and he got into the system because he was really a Politico. He's really smart. But again, he put the ring of Mordor on, and I would never, you know, do that. Sure.

So I think that it just feels like ambivalent. Yeah. There's a like, okay, obviously Steve is way more involved in some shit. than I really want. Yeah. At the same time, he's really important. He's a big figure in my media space. Yeah.

So Alex is trying to set up this position where he could go either way. Yeah. Where he could burn Steve Bannon or he could come up with a reason why he's totally fine. And that middle ground shit is just like, it is no good. No, especially not now. Not from the tip of the spear? No. And I think we should be in full, uh, uh, what,

The old joke, right? I'm Derek the Gardner. I've been a gardener for 20 years. They don't call me Derek the Gardner. You fuck one goat and you're Derek the goat fucker for life, that kind of thing. And it's like, yeah, I don't care what you've done. You went to Epstein Island. And as Alex even points out himself, you lied about it.

Yeah. Like. For a reason. People lie for a reason. People don't just lie about it because it would be a delightful time. They lied about it because you went to. Epstein Island and you lie about that shit. Yeah.

I mean, it's, uh, he's got to do something. Like this, this, um, this kind of, this kind of positioning that he's trying to do is fucking dumb. And, and it's embarrassing for someone who pretends to be like his own man like Alex. It just, it feels, it feels trapped. Yeah. And the British are, and again, it's, it's so stupid how Trump is doing it. Because the British are doing it right, right?

People want a head at least. People want heads to roll. So you give him a head. Listen, do you think Prince Andrew is the only person up there in the royal family who's had a good time? No, absolutely not. But fuck that guy. Head's got to roll. Get out of here, right?

You got to give him one. And then you can hide the rest of them. Maybe. Maybe. So what Trump is doing instead is just being like, I think I'm going to cover this stuff up. See, that's the problem. It is. Give them a head.

And even for Alex, it's a problem. Yeah. Now he said it in the Bannon interview. Only two hours of 60 hours we now learned it was released because the FBI already had that. Bannon didn't release it. He was the stand every David Rockefeller, the head of the trial commission. Let that sink in for you. So what water is doing a great job in that report, five minutes all dead on.

But the rest of the story is, why is Trump saying it'll hurt America if we keep focusing on this? Let's move on. Why are you connecting yourself to something that I've known about before? or anybody covering on air. Why are you doing it? Fuck! Because I will not be part of the cover up by not exposing what you're doing, Trump. Well, I'm not implicated, so it's fine.

Let's move on. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Fuck. Seems mad.

I mean, he's in a tough position. Yep. Right? Because when you ask a question like, why? and you already know the answer, right? Then you're asking, why is it so hard to come up with a plausible lie about this? Yeah. And if it's so hard to come up with a plausible lie, you're fighting from the back of the end zone, man.

They've already called a safety. You're not getting out of there. Yeah, he's not asking like, why is Trump acting this way? It's more, God, why is it so hard for me to defend this? Exactly. Because I'm not not going to. Give me something real good. right give me something good that i can carry over this because man i got no options yeah this feels

like something it's it's weird that you'd think like oh this is a good thing to broadcast yeah you know because it does seem like somebody who's just like in crisis about something that everyone understands like where he's where he's situated at this yeah yeah he's not going anywhere and he's gonna whine yeah like don't have a crisis about this on air talk to a therapist about it something something and and do your wall your job right anyway that's just the feeling that I get is that he feels trapped as shit well yeah holy mackerel and those that bitching me saying well why he's supporting Trump so far we're they pulled out of the Paris accord according to the actuarians they'll save two billion people they found half the kids the democrat shipped

in half a million I don't find any real stuff he's doing that's the tone of voice of somebody who's so good for me that the globe has had the global has offered to drop the lawsuits if I don't support him. People say, oh, you've been paying off to support Trump? No, I have gotten nothing shit from Trump. Except grief. So this sounds like a guy who just can't justify the position he knows he has to sell to the audience. It's a foregone conclusion that he has to support Trump.

And that position is becoming harder and harder to defend as Trump continues to act like a piece of shit and do things that Alex knows he's supposed to hate. It's really hard to hear a clip like that and not suspect that Alex's support for Trump isn't authentic. He just yelled a string of obscenities about how he's not going to go along with Trump's Epstein cover-up, and then to justify why he supports Trump, Alex pulls out these two examples. The first is getting out of the Paris Accords, which he claims will save two billion lives. Sure. That number is made up by his climate lunatic friends like Lord Moncton, and has no bearing on reality. Trump left the agreement in his first term, then Biden rejoined it,

and Trump left it again. In the meantime, most of the rest of the world has stayed in the agreement, and we will rejoin it as soon as Trump isn't in office. The second example he has is finding all these missing kids, which is really just a fake story. During the run-up to the election, Alex and the folks in his media space pretended that hundreds of thousands of kids who came across the border were missing, and because that story was fake to begin with, who cares if you make up the conclusion to it?

These kids weren't missing, so Alex can say that they're just all secretly getting found and chalk it up as a big Trump success. Yeah. The only stuff Alex can really, point to when he needs to balance Trump's very obvious Epstein cover-up shit are fake or old stories

that don't mean anything. I don't know if he thinks that this sounds convincing but I find it hard to believe that he could. I think he has to realize this is thin shit. Yeah. I mean, how can you not? You've been trapped on the smallest of planks.

You're on the smallest of planks. Everybody, all the pirates are looking at you like, buddy, fucking jump. We can't do this all goddamn day. You're going to go into that water, so just jump. Yeah. Yeah.

And the longer you refuse to, the more it just becomes like, what? It's painfully obvious that something's up here. Yeah. So it's not all just Epstein stuff that Trump is mad or Alex is mad at Trump about. Yeah. There's also, you remember the frogs are how they're turning gay and all that stuff? Chemicals in the water. Sure.

Trump loves it. Ooh. The good news is the Great Awakening's here. The good news is popular. are winning everywhere. The good news is Trump just wrote it in our wave. We'll take the good, the good people, Kennedy, you know, Homan, Gabbards will support all that. But he's out there giving liability protection to Goliathus State now because they've been exposed, murdering everybody and Roundup. So it's just, it's just Trump at 79 is in La La Land. And that's fine.

No, it's not. It's not. Because this is our dog in the fight. But remember, they're 10 times more guilt on record. So let's focus on them. Yeah, let's not focus on the guy who's in La La Land. Great. So it's not even that Trump has given liability protection to glyphosate producers. He signed an executive order boosting production of it and protecting it as a national security priority. Cool.

So what happened here is that Bayer is the only company in the United States that produces glyphosate. And they're in some big lawsuits accusing the product of causing cancer. They recently proposed an approximately $7 billion settlement for the case, but were also clear that if they had to pay that off, they probably couldn't afford to continue production in the United States, and it would likely all go to China. Trump's in a position where the Robert Kennedy Jr. types in his base absolutely demand that he get rid of glyphosate, and that demand has been a big part of Alex's career for decades. Yeah. But simultaneously, he has a big company with ties to all sorts of production that will probably take their business elsewhere if Trump goes

through with that, which would look really bad for the economy. Yeah. He's in a no-win situation because he loves big business but also as an audience full of idiots who believe passionately in conspiracy shit Trump's in a bind there yeah no matter what he does one side is going to be pissed and it would be helpful for folks like Alex to take notice that when these kinds of no-win situations come up Trump seems to always side with the big business interests weird how that works and I don't know if it's a coincidence you know the way I see it right if we're here, all right, you can go full China, you know, say you're the president for life, and then just nationalize bear, just like arrest all those executives,

put them in jail for a while, take bear, then let them out, and then say bear is yours again. And surprise, you're not going anywhere. Isn't that crazy how that works? Yeah, I don't know if you could do that because I think Bayer is a foreign company. I, you know, the thing about doing stuff. When you're a dictator. You really never know what you can get away with. You really never know until you do it. It's true.

Yeah? I mean, hey, it's an option. You know, it is interesting the idea of being beholden to large business interests while at the same time being theoretically the most powerful man in the world. The idea of being like, hey, bud, if you don't like glyphosate, we'll take our business to China. What are you going to do about that? Nothing, right? It's also really funny to have like, you know,

all of this big business does need to like have all these numbers that show that the economy is good for your own like sense of self. Yeah. And then also have an audience that are the most self-deluded fucking idiots who think they're counterculture. Yeah.

It's crazy. And it's and it's even wilder to know that that you can, you can make the, for what you want, you can do. You want those numbers to be good? There is good governance available to make those numbers happen. But you can't do that.

because you have to make those numbers happen by doing the insane shit that will never make those numbers happen. Yeah, yep, it's fun. It's a bind. It's fun for us to live with. So there's a lot of people who are implicated by the Epstein emails and stuff.

Sure. And there's one person who you need to know is not. And that is Elon Musk. So here is... Pretty sure he's real. David Sacks called out Reed Hoffman. who's like a fly on shit and all this for blaming Trump and Elon. With Elon, there is nothing there.

And Elon's one that came out in June and said Trump is in the file. That's why he's covering it up. And boy, what are they suppressing? It's a big question. I don't want to play games here. And it's obvious that Alex is just a hack liar. But I don't know if we've talked about Elon's emails with Epstein on the show. So I just wanted to share this.

Sure. In November 2012, Epstein was inviting Elon to the island and offering a helicopter for transportation. and Elon replied, quote, What day slash night will the wildest party on your island? To be clear, that was in 2012. Well, after he'd gone to jail for the first time. And Elon Musk was specifically trying to plan out a visit to his island based on when the wildest party would be.

Yeah. Then, on Christmas day, Elon emailed Epstein, quote, do you have any parties planned? I've been working to the edge of sanity this year. And so once my kids head home for Christmas, I really want to hit the party scene in St. Bart's or elsewhere and let loose. The invitation is much appreciated, but a peaceful island experience is the opposite of what I'm looking for. My point is that Elon really desperately wanted to get some wild partying in with the convicted sex criminal.

It's very funny that Elon acted this way, and even more funny than Alex is pretending that none of that is real. Yeah. Ha ha. You know, here's the problem with those emails, right? Horrible if followed through on. Even more disgusting, if not. Think about the man's mindset whenever he's sending that email

to fucking Jeffrey Epstein. He's imagining what he's going to do. Yeah, no, he's saying I needed to be fucking crazy. Exactly. Look, I know that you're Jeffrey Epstein, but I'm not flying out there if it's not fucked up. If it's not a great party. The idea that he is putting out there

is I want to do real crimes. Yes. I want to do actual things that cannot be done off an island because of laws. Yes. I want to be in international waters so I can do shit that people don't even dream as possible. Yeah, I want to do Andy Daly character shit.

Absolutely. Something that, some that, one of those. Don DeMello. Yeah. Does he go out in international waters that much? I don't know, but he's that other guy who goes out in the international waters. Right. But, yeah, I think it's so, it's such a sad.

look. Like, it's disgusting. It's begging. Yeah. It is. And I understand if it's like a cool person that you're like Hey man, I'd love to come to one of your parties where all the brightest thinkers get together and talk literature and an Algonquin

round table or whatever. But when you're emailing Jeffrey Epstein about wild parties in 2012 we know what you want, man. For all the fucking PizzaGate interpretation bullshit, this is as explicit as you can possibly get that this man might actually hunt humans.

If the party is that kind of party, then he'll hunt a person. Well, I mean, if you don't. You're weird. No. And also he'll blackmail you. And you're going to be the one hunted. Yeah, that is true. You know?

Yeah. Yeah, you got to join the hunt part if you're, if it's an option. So, um, I, I, boy, we're in, uh, dire straits with, uh, employees. Because we get money for nothing? Yeah. They do, for sure. No chicks for free, but money for nothing. Money for nothing. Definitely.

So we have Chase gone. Owens gone. Harrison's desperate to not be noticed. Non-existent? I mean, even if he's there, he's not there. And so we have Thomas, who we met on a not too long ago on an episode. Right, right, right. And I just regret to tell you that he's back.

and the second half of Alex's show is him talking to Thomas about his research into these emails. Thank you for joining us this live Saturday transmission. Our great researchers, including Thomas Huska, have now dug out even more shocking documents. From the front lines of the information war, it's Alex Jones. Hunting humans, including groups of black people. So we're going to hit that and the latest updates on that. and then the insider trading caught red-handed with Howard Ludnik, which they're trying to spin. So, Thomas, you've really prepared for this.

I'm trying to give you the floor. We got some clips. You're in command. Let's roll this out. So these emails in the Epstein docks are showing that they're talking about hunting humans. And this one right here is specifically talking about hunting blacks. It's very peculiar because there's no sender. on it. There's not even

a redaction. They've taken the whole sender name off and it's very mysterious, if you will, but it says the snipe hunt is over, moon crickets in field bag. And moon crickets is an old racial slur

for blacks, for slaves that would work overnight. And then he says, guess what? And then he drops a hard hard R right here. That's that's Epstein here. And people say, oh, well, what's the big deal?

We have even the BBC admitting these big globalist groups and organizations in Bosnian war zones doing these hunting tanks. This comes up over and over again, but give us the latest. So he brings that up again, which is top of mind for him in a strange way that again I'm uncomfortable with. Yeah. But yeah, I think I looked at this email, and I would say it seems pretty racist, but I don't think it necessarily is proof of hunting humans?

Yeah. I'm fascinated by humans in a lot of ways, but this is maybe one of the biggest for me. Because it's very pervasive throughout, I would say, the world, right? One of those racial slurs means the other racial slur. And one of those racial slurs means the other racial slur. yet somehow one of those racial slurs can be spoken, but the other racial slur cannot be spoken. Sure.

I find it fascinating that the meaning of those words is irrespective of the way they are treated. Yeah, yeah. And I think that for people like Alex who are so big on like tearing down the walls of PC, like it is strange that they would treat them differently. Yeah. Huh. Anyway, I just, I think that Thomas is just green. He's inexperienced.

He's not good. No, he's terrible on Mike. Like, that is real bad. The emails have revealed proof of hunting humans. Tempo is bad. Like, the number of breaks are bad. Like, listen, we're all um people from time to time. But even then, you've got to get it in the rhythm.

You got to get it in the tone. This dude is falling apart. Yeah. So they get to a little bit of riffing about how they interpret the emails. And that's a lot of fun. Sure. So, yes, this has been going on. for a long time that it's always been it's always been talked about that these hunts happen

very similar to like a private ranch where you'd have turkeys running around and they're all enclosed in a place where you know they can't escape um so they would take humans that you know maybe maybe uh didn't want to be raped anymore we're starting to fight and then they'd say all right we're going to send you out in the field and and uh we'll we'll have our last little fun with well that's a story called it the most dangerous game. And then we have another email here from the Rothschild, Aryan Day Rothschild, says, thrilling hunt, amazing, old male, amazing hunt. Bankers should be careful.

So they're probably killing some globalists that made it mad. They'll also, and again, this isn't so many cultures, so much documents. this always comes out. Well, we solved that one. So is the bankers they were hunting? I guess. What? An old male was getting hunted.

Banker. See, this is the problem with the most dangerous game. That doesn't feel very dangerous. An old banker? Yeah, I feel like I, listen, I've never even hunted a non-human thing. I think I could hunt an old banker. I think I can handle that one. You know, I think there's a range of old bankers.

Sure. Some probably are a little craftier than others. I was just thinking the word crafty could be applied to an old banker. Yeah. That's true. You know, someone might have been in the service. They've probably got contacts. Sure.

But, I mean, we're on the island in this hunt, I imagine. Yeah, you got. We're not like in an urban setting. No, no, that's true. But you could improvise a fair amount of sharp things in an island. Yeah, I mean, I feel. like the problem with hunting another person is that person is kind of able

to hunt you back, you know, and they're like, know where you are. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think that is dumb, and I looked at the email that they're talking about and I see no evidence that this is indicating that they hunt people.

It's very racist. Not this one. Oh, not this one was. The other one was racist. This one was just about an old male or something in a thrilling hunt and bankers. It doesn't... It doesn't say anything. Like the Elon emails are complete thoughts. Yeah.

I want to do a wild party with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At your island. Yes. These are not complete thoughts. They reference something and you don't know what it is. Yeah. And Alex has just decided what it is.

Do you think they hunt on horseback? Oh, how are you going to get the horses to the island? I mean, hold on. They have yachts that are bigger than fucking... True. Yeah. So they have the capability. to get horses there.

Okay. Are they horse riders, though? Here's what I would say. Yeah. If they're going through the trouble to bring horses for the sake of, like, an equestrian experience for the hunt. Sure. I think they're going to go farther, like a dragon. Yeah.

Yeah. You think so? Yeah, why not? All right. They're rich. They got dragons? Yeah. That does sound right.

Or like a big cat or something like that, you know? You know, I don't think cats have strong. like their spines aren't strong enough to hold a human. You can't ride them. You're the person who's saying that there's a clone out there somewhere. They could genetically modify a big cat to a stronger back. Here's what I'm saying, though. Once you're genetically modifying a big cat with a stronger back,

there's more to reach for than just hunting humans. Now you can genetically modify humans to hunt. True. Yeah. See, this is what's in the emails. When you really get down to it, this is what you figure out. Yeah. So Thomas has figured out some more code and good on him.

I'm proud of the boy. We have another email here that seems to be coded with the same Rothschild that says, I have your cereal can talk tonight around 2200. So cereal seems to be another coded word. Oh my God. And cereal actually in Latin is the word for sacrifice. It's, I believe, sacramonious or sacrificial. Oh, my God.

The old world, the Romans and the Greeks, they would have sacrifices built around their crops and their cereal crops, their grains. So, you know, every year when they would go to have their crops, they would have a sacrifice. And so the fact that she's saying cereal here could mean that this is a code for a sacrifice. I have your, I have your sacrifice ready. We can talk about it tonight. Could. I mean, why? I don't study anthropology.

The Africans, the Middle Easterers, the Romans, the Asians, the Mesoamericans, they all did sacrifice around the harvest. Okay. So what? So like other cultures in the past have had sacrifices around a harvest. Yeah. To the like god of agriculture or whatever. Doesn't mean that cereal means sacrifice in a fucking email that. you read that plausibly could be about cereal.

Yeah. Several thousand years before Wikipedia, people were more interested in sacrifice-based weather changing. Now, not so much. Not as... Been a while. Yeah. Been a while since you've been able to change the weather with the sacrifice.

I get the tenuous connection that he's making. I suppose. No, I get it. Oh, no, no, I can draw it. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like... There is no A to B to C to D or whatever.

It's just silly. It's stupid. This connection, oh, the word cereal here. Oh, in Latin, cereal looks a lot like sacrifices. People would make sacrifices of grains for the harvest. Therefore, Epstein and this Rothschild person are using cereal as code for sacrifice. Right, right, right. Thank you very much.

I will take my doctorate. Here's what I'll say about that, right? if you, if I can imagine myself in the shoes of the person coming up with said slang, right, and introducing that to another person and then explaining it, if they go, that's a stretch, then I feel like it probably didn't happen the way that, you know? Yeah. I need, I need at least like a bunch of examples. Absolutely.

Not just this one that he's throwing out. Absolutely. Kind of makes him sound dumb. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's fewer letters than honey nut. True. Yeah. So Thomas seems to be wanting to congratulate himself for really covering this story in a way that no one else can.

Even though I knew about this decades ago, 30-something years ago from Ted Gunterson, I still can't believe. Let me just stop you. What for you, because you've already super informed, great guy, do a great job. What is it like to see it being confirmed, though, out in the open? This is a big moment. I don't think any of us, including myself realized, the moment history we're in, this is the great reveal. This is it going anywhere. It just shows the arrogance.

I mean, for us to be the ones that are highlighting this and going over this every day and saying they're killing kids, they're killing kids. They're doing satanic rituals. And, you know, we don't see that on the mainstream news. Trump's not talking about it. Nobody in Trump's administration is talking about these kids. It's like the excuse that he just had a child prostitute seems to be. be the narrative for the whole thing is like, okay, this was a young, promiscuous girl. There's a limited hangout of 14-year-old girls. No, it's killing and eating people.

Yes. Yes. I mean, I'm sold. Why won't the news cover this? I can't think of any reason why the news wouldn't cover this. Ding ding ding ding, ding tonight on CNN. Serial is used in an email and this proves sacrifice. I mean, here's just another simpler reason. You're just, it's going to be harder to go to the island to fire a gun into a restaurant there, you know? That's just not going to happen. No, that's true. Yeah. I just find this self-congratulatory shit, like, it's very funny.

It's like, why is no one else covering this? You're dumb. To say it out loud and then to have Alex next to you, like, rooting you on, should tell you all you need to know. Yeah. You're caught up in this satanic panic and good for you. You've lost it. And it sucks that you can be so boring about what should be exciting, which is the literal devil.

And cannibalism and human hunting and blood drinking. That's exciting. It's boring. So Thomas, he thinks like, hey, you know what? If we're ever going to get to the bottom of this, we're probably going to have to really start attacking the victims. Some of these kids that are getting killed and sacrifice may very well be just, you know, related to. Oh, I think McRohn, 14 recruited by the teacher, obviously. A lot of them are actually ritual abuse victims.

Yes. A lot of the leaders themselves have been through this. So, you know, it's tough when people say, you know, not to go after some of these people because they're victims, too. At a certain point, you have to break free of the conditioning and not commit the crimes yourself and be willing to die to not. perpetuate the same evil. Well, that's right. I've been so focused on this in the last three weeks that I didn't instruct the crew until now.

He'll get the thousands of videos of me, 30 years ago, 20 years ago saying it's Satan is blood drinking. Here's how it works. But we need to show people that. Yeah, you're not getting enough credit, huh? That's good. So it very well may be the case that someone who's a victim of someone like Epstein can go on to become a perpetrator themselves.

And I think that's fine, but I think it's very important to point out that dipshits like Thomas and Alex can't be trusted to understand what any of that means. The type of coverage and sensationalism they engage in is fundamentally irresponsible, so they can never really be allowed to pretend that they're working with nuance. They're blunt instruments, and if they want to make up all kinds of crazy shit about Hillary Clinton or Epstein and witchcraft or cannibalism, this is dumb stuff, but it doesn't really hurt anyone.

These guys don't have the discipline that's required to protect victims while trying to investigate suspects. If it feels easier to them, they will treat victims as suspects. And in the process, they open them up to all kinds of harassment and retramatization. It's exactly the same sorts of behavior you've seen Alex engage in around mass shooting victims and survivors. And like, you can't, you can't do that. You're not good enough to do that. Yeah. It's hard to find suspects who might have done it because they're hiding. It's easier to blame victims because they're coming out and saying what they've been victimized with, you know? Sure.

So they're visible and other people aren't. If you're lazy as fuck, boom. Who's ever visible? Done. Yeah. And I think that I think that this mentality that is clearly articulated by Thomas. Yep. And Alex has said it in that Patrick Bed David interview, I believe.

Like it's just, it's an unacceptable mission statement for them to have. free yourself from the shackles of giving a shit about the people we roll over on our way to a white nation nation. Yeah, and like, you know, talk about Soros, talk about Hillary, the public figures and all that kind of stuff. You're just being a tabloid. And like, yeah, it probably, you know, it's dangerous for them when someone might show up with a gun or try to kill them or something. But that doesn't happen all the time. and you're just talking shit about these public figures and what have you. Yeah.

When you're punching at people who are victims, you're a real piece of shit. Yeah. They should know that. It's not about they've broken out of the conditioning of, you can't question things. It's not that at all. It's you are not good enough to do this. You don't have skills that are required to deal with this very sensitive and painful shit in a way that isn't dangerous. Yeah.

anytime you're punching down, it takes a lot of words to justify it and da, da, da, da, da, da, and specific context and all these things that you don't. You wouldn't understand. When you're punching up, it's real easy. Yeah, watch that guy. Watch this.

They talk about Howard Lutnik. Punch up all you want. Punch up all you want. I was given Howard Lutnik the benefit of the doubt. Me too. And being like, okay, you know, Trump got this guy. He seems to know a lot about commerce and the tariffs. And the terrorists, you know, to me sounded like the greatest thing ever financially to make these other countries pay back what they've taken from us to reboot our economy.

No doubt globalism was about starting the 80s. One side of trade deals to screw us. To the industrializes, it was a great plan. But Ludnik, the Democrat. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. And, you know, people were calling into the show talking about Lutnik saying, hey, he wasn't there on 9-11. you know, he had to take his kid to school that day.

Trade options, you have to do it. We'll go to that a moment, yeah. He had to take his kid to school that day. And, you know, you have Larry Silverstein that didn't show up to that day either because he had a medical appointment or whatever. And bought double insurance the week before. Right. So he said it making like, was it $3 billion, like $6 billion or something on the towers.

Right. Terrorism insurance, which they normally won't give you, but they gave him. So I wouldn't want to think that Lutnik would be willing to kill his own brother and the rest of his family if he had prior knowledge that this event was going to be taking place. However, knowing how MK. Ultra works and how this blackbell ring works and how Satanism works, if he is involved... Oh, does Satanism work? So if he is involved in that, that that's, you know, a really, really dark person that... But this is why I'm mad at myself, because I've forgotten more than most people know. I remember on 9-11 and in a weeks after and it was a big stock trader, Max Kaiser on years later,

it was Ludnik's firm that did the main put options against the two airlines the week before. So yeah, Howard Ludnik maybe killed his own family on 9-11 in order to short airplane stocks or something. Sure, whatever. That seems again, it seems like they're not treating that with maybe the seriousness that it deserves. Of course not. Like a man killing his own family in any fashion, regardless of whether or not it is through 9-11, is a real tragedy. No, it is. But when you're talking about someone like Howard Ludnik or someone who's a public figure and someone who's like insulated in an incredibly powerful position.

Who cares if you're saying this kind of shit talk? Yeah, fuck that guy. You just can't do it with, you know, private people and people who are. So, you know, it's so different. And I don't think that they care. No, they don't. It's just like, and it's hard to believe because it's so obvious that so few times are you in the wrong if you're punching up. And so few times are you in the right if you're punching down.

How is this complicated? Yeah, it shouldn't be. It seems so simple. Mm-hmm. So Alex has a email here that he's just sort of lying about. emails came out last week and they're where they're going oh yeah it wasn't really hot jaggers I fly the plane remote control

they're like bragging my hand remote control baby which was what it was yes remote control baby yeah it's a remote control baby yeah that was in the emails remote control baby yeah so I guess 9-11 sold again what a weird thing

he murders an entire family just to make some money finger guns buddy oh boy baby baby yeah So yeah, that email isn't real. No. But the ones with Steve Bannon are.

That is a problem. And Alex and Thomas get to talking about Bannon a little bit. And Alex, he really thinks, he feels like he's close to like, I'm going to take the shot. Oh. Well, I'm not defending Bannon, but Bannon's a pure political animal. So he went from a brokerage guy and a Hollywood guy in the Trump White House. He, you go to the Rothschild representative. if you go to the Rothschild agent, you go to the David Rockefeller,

a Trilateral commission agent if you want this power. So, I mean, he put the ring on. Bannon met with the devil. He went to the island now it's coming out. He didn't tell people. That's bad. And people aren't even scared to even attack him from what I'm told. It's just that they're like, wow, this is terrible.

And they're just kind of like waiting to say, what do we say? Well, I don't even call Benin. He used to send me text articles news. Hey, let's get this judge in. Let's help promote this. All is pro-America. And the stuff that's in there is like, let's get rid of the leftist in the UK and Europe. And he's got Epstein helping him do that.

You know, it's like, it's like the work is mainly good. That's why I'm like, I'm sorry? Like, what am I to do? Because, like, Bannon's doing a lot of good stuff here. Excuse me? He's also making jokes about, you know, young girls with Epstein. So, you go to the island. I'm not telling people.

He should have come clean earlier. See, I'm already going where I'm going, but I got to really, I don't know, I want to do this right, because I want to write a bunch of notes, get a bunch of exhibits that just, the point is he put the ring of Mordor on. So that's an excuse that Alex uses for people. When they says that they put the ring of Mordor on, that's a way for him to preserve the decency of the person. Frodo put the ring on. Right. Yeah. Putting on the ring is saying that, like, yeah, some of these actions are evil, but the person's good.

Maybe it's unwise to put on the ring. So there's this just fucking... According to literally every wise person in the book, period, it is unwise to put on the ring. But who knows? Yeah. Could be anything. But Alex just, he feels like, it's like, okay, Bannon sucks.

He sucks. He went to the island. He didn't fucking tell anybody. He's making jokes about underage people with Bannon. Or with Epstein. But he's also doing this good stuff that I like. Where is he going with this? knowing how Satanism works.

There are a lot of kind of just Christmas and Easter Satanists. So, yeah, he's a Satanist who went to the island and met with the devil or whatever. But it's like, it's not that big of a deal. You know, it's like he's more even a cultural Satanist, really, you know. Okay, now that's interesting. So I just don't know what Alex's position is. I can't tell, like he seems to him's pretty easy. He wants to attack Bannon, but he's not letting himself.

Right. And the feeling that I got is like, I think he just doesn't know if he's allowed to. Here's my problem with the ban, I think. You read what he's doing in all of this. It's overall pro-freedom, anti-globalist, other than undermining Trump and saying, maybe he should 25th Amendment Trump. But he'll say, well, I was doing that to get the confidence of the bad guy. You could hear that argument. The silence is very loud.

There's an email from Bannon saying that he's the one who got John Bolton into the Trump administration. Yeah, no, I think Bannon is bad, a chameleon. And when he saw us winning, the Liberty Movement winning, I'm not saying he's bad. I'm saying, that's where I'm going. You just said he was bad. I'm not there yet. It's kind of like a big egg.

You just said you think he's bad. It's rising. It's not done yet. It's not done. It's rising. It's getting crispy, but you're going to flip it. And when I'm done, I'm going to missiles up. But I'm not ready yet.

I haven't heard back from the people who tell me if it's okay for me to burn Bannon. This feels very, I haven't. Roger hasn't gone back to me. I don't know exactly what I'm supposed to do here. What are my marching orders? Because obviously on the surface, I should be guns blazing on this guy. It seems very easy. He's a Satanist.

He's bad. A couple seconds later. I'm not saying he's bad. Come on. I'm not saying he's bad. Right. You know what everybody loves from their tip of the spear? Real wishy-washy nonsense.

Yeah. Ambivalent double talk. Yeah. That makes me, if I hear from a leader ambivalent double talk, I say, sir, I will follow. Yeah. So I think what's going on for Alex is that he thinks that there's a way to save Bannon. Right. And so

he pitches to Bannon like what you need to do in order to make it out of this. All right. Here's what I think. He was a social climber, political guy, smart, got in, kiss he ass the system, got in overall, I think it was a popularist patriot. But wore the ring of Mordor. And then he knew this was coming out years ago. So he really proved himself. Him and Eppstein talk about, I'm going to be a media guy. So I'm going to counter. He told Epstein that too. So he wanted to be a real guy. He told him to reproving himself ahead of all this,

but the network's so important that people want forgiven for this. Steve, you need to spill your guts and I think you'll be forgiven because I think I get the picture of what you did, but you need to tell us that's what it is or you're fried, bro. You're fucked. You're fucked. So yeah, just here's the storyline that we'll accept. And if you want to do that good, otherwise,

I probably am going to have to really take these things seriously. You're a great guy. You've done a lot of good work. It seems like it should be harder for me to forgive pedophilia, but on the other hand, I guess it's not. You, Bannon, made a calculation that there was going to be stuff about you that came out. Yep.

And so you made a network that was too big to fail. Yep. And would be too damaging for us to attack. Yep. in order to insulate yourself from the consequences of these things coming out. Oh, you know who else did that? Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, man.

You know, the two of them did this long interview. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, did they know each other for a really long time? Seemed friendly. Huh. Yeah. So, anyway, good luck, uh, Bannon.

Good luck Alex figuring out how to spin this fucking thing. Why? But we have one last clip here, and it's Alex telling Congress what they need to do. That's a real good question. What does Congress need to do? Give me the fucking names. Okay. Give me the names.

All right. I want to see those fucking names. And so I'm telling everybody here. Because we've had this shit for weeks, and I've seen Annapoleon, who I love, calls me the whole time. We talk. All you guys saying, oh, God, it's horrible. You won't believe the names. Release the fucking names.

Okay? I don't cuss. I got a big vocabulary here. But these people attention when I say it, fucking release it. Fucking release it. King released it. Everybody better start beating the drum. Hey, you Congress, including Hakeem Jeffries and AOC and the senators, all of them.

Yeah. I see these Democrat senators. Oh, Trump's in there a million times. All of them, but just the Democrat. He's involved in cover up. We're not absconding for him. I want the fucking names. The fucking redacted names.

You have it? Oh, there's more stuff we ever got. Great. Get that. Don't you distract. Are you see what I'm saying here? Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty easy to see what you're saying here.

What the fucking names. Not whenever you use the word absconding to mean protecting. Sure. Yeah. I think you're in trouble when you're screaming at Congress to give you the fucking names. Right. And then you have to make a quick caveat that, yeah, Trump, his name's in there, but it's all bullshit. What he's doing is covering it up.

Right. That's not good. You're in a bad spot. See, I'm mad at Congress for being too weak to do something about it. But I'm mad at Trump for being too strong. to allow them to do something about it. And Trump, if you think about it, is too strong to not get involved.

Right. You know, like a lot of people would just, you know, be a bystander watching this mess happen. No, no, no, no. He rolled up his sleeves and decided I'm getting, I'm getting messy. Yeah. I'm getting in the middle of this thing.

I'm covering it up. I mean. What a hero. I don't know how these, you know, it's like, there is a part of me that has a, like, I don't know what I would describe it as, like a visceral admiration. I don't think my physical form would be capable of continuing to make words in defense

of Donald Trump at this point, right? Like, I literally think it's not physically possible for me. So in a way, there is something that they can do that I can't do. No, definitely. And I think that that's the overall feeling that I get across the board from this episode. Yeah. is that Alex is very near his breaking point of being able to do that. Right.

There is this like real like, oh, God damn it. I'm not going to fucking, I'm not going to let my dad get away with murder. I'm not covering up this Trump. I can't do this, but also lesser of two evils. I can't put up with Bannon doing these. But he also did a lot of great stuff trying to destroy the leftists. Like he's just stuck. There's just, and it's kind of funny.

Yeah. But, um, You know, what really sucks about that is that people do get, like anything, people just get inured to it, you know? And it's like, well, you know, I haven't done anything about this. So the next thing, I'm going to have the same wishy-washy conversation with myself about it because I didn't do anything about the last time. So why would this time take us back to 2006? Right. Absolutely.

The executive must be punished. Or else we're going to end up in 2026. It's hard not to think that there was something to be said about that. Yeah. Alex had a point back then. He also was wrong about a lot of other stuff. He was wrong about everything. Yeah, I don't know.

It's interesting to come, you know, and see this vision of him after enjoying some of the 2006 times. The starkness of his abilities, his skills, his tool set. Yep. Like, it's just, they're so different. He sucks a lot now. Yeah. It is like a, I don't know, it is, it is like that VH1 behind the music kind of, uh, uh, rhythm of like, all right, we're coming up here and now we're in the follow years and

you know, that whole thing. And he's not going to have a reunion tour. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. And I think that, um, you know, like the skills and the ability that he's putting forth here in this, this present day episode, like, he's really like, he's really, like, he's really lucky that he tried hard earlier. Yeah. Because this person has no place in the market. There's nothing interesting or compelling about what he can do now. It's all just coasting on the reputation that he built in VHS and early internet days.

Legacy, yeah. And I think that that's good, good for you. Enjoy your phone call with Steve Bannon. Yeah. We'll see how that goes. Oh, God. But yeah, I don't know. How do you feel?

I feel like Satanism used to be a much more, used to be a much bigger deal breaker. You know, like even worshiping Satan a little bit was going to get you in trouble. Now we're getting all like, well, you know, Satanists can do good. Right. Satanism, you can toe dip. You know, you can like check in a little. Like, okay, all right.

You guys, you know what? Maybe you guys have a point. Satan? I feel like you can't, you can't even have a little bit of that. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah, it should be if you touch the water, you're, you get sucked in. You know, like that's how it's supposed to be. It's almost like maybe in every possible telling of a Satan story, there's a small crack at first that gets a person to do something that maybe they wouldn't otherwise do.

That allows Satan in. And then all of a sudden, after a period of time, Satan has taken over. I've heard these stories before. It's almost like it's literally every. single fucking story. Speaking of Satan, though, I really do want Alex's Bone Temple review because I wonder what he would think of Ray Fines. Yeah, doing the...

Yep, yep, yep. God. Is that, would that be... Dude. You have to think he would think it was cool because it is cool, but it also has to be predictive programming, right? Okay, okay, okay. All right.

Alex is on Menect now. No. I don't want to waste the money, but... No, no, no, no, no, no. Absolutely not. him to do a bone temple review? Absolutely not. All right, fine.

It's not worth it. I'd rather spend $50,000 getting Patrick Betteb, whatever his name is. Did him to do a bone temple review. Absolutely. Tell me about the bone temple PDP. All right, fine. We'll find something that he's done. We'll be in the past or the present.

Who knows? But we'll be back. Yeah. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back.

But until then, I'm need. I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I'm the mysterious professor. Who, yeah! And now here comes the sex robot. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.