Knowledge Fight - #1122: March 3, 2026

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan watch the unfolding tragedy of Alex's coverage of Trump starting a war in Iran and hear dire warnings about snakes in holes....

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:01 I know, no, no, no, knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. Knowledgefight.com. It's down to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge are fighting.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. Need money. Time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time calling.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And I love your word. Knowledge fight. Knowledgefight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Workable dudes like to sit around. Worship at the altar of Celine. Talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed. We are Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy?
Starting point is 00:01:12 I'm going to let you get to yours, I promise. Sure. It's March. It is March. So I'm going to go first. All right. I mean, it is tradition. I'm going to talk about what my bright spot is.
Starting point is 00:01:20 All right. All right. And I think actually I'm going to do some course correcting with this bright spot. Yeah. I was too negative about Survivor on the last bright spot. I think that I was shitting all over this and I don't feel right. I was listening back to it when I was editing it. I'm like, I'm so negative.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And that's not fair. It's fine. I do like, there's some, who cares? We're softening. We're softening. I remember being able to really hate shit when I was a younger man. Now I'm like, let people enjoy things. It's not even that necessarily for me.
Starting point is 00:01:55 It's more that I listened back and I felt like I wasn't being even true to my own opinion. I was being way too negative and like this fucking stupid Billy Elish boomerang. Performatively negative without giving due credit to like some of the stuff that's pretty positive. Yeah, Billy Irish isn't bad. Sure, I guess. Boomarangs are cool. I just think I think that I wasn't fairly representing my point. And I don't like to be that negative when there are some positives.
Starting point is 00:02:23 The cast's fun. Absolutely. I'm excited to see some of these people play that game. Yeah, no, it'll be chaos. Colby's an old man, and it's really exciting to see him back. Here's what I like. I like a good complicated mechanic that never comes into play. I love the idea of having the Billy Elish boomerang idol, and then it's just like, and okay, well, now we didn't really use it in any boomerang fashion.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Well, we don't know if it will. It might not. Right. But there, with spoilers, if you haven't seen the most recent episode, but there's a second Billy Eilish boomerang idol. There's three tribes. So if someone finds one, obviously there's probably going to be three. Except, like, I thought that they would be different.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I didn't think there would be three boomerang items. It's three bebees. But yeah, so that's, uh, look, I just was too mean. You, it's okay. It's okay. You don't need to carry this guilt with you. Yeah. I forgive you.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Thank you. On behalf of pro. No, I still hate him. Okay, well then not on his behalf. So what's your bright spot? My bright spot is also television related, but it happened earlier today. We're recording a little late, so I had a little bit, a little time. Pull up some, guess what?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Terriers. You remember Terriers? Donal Logue. Donal Logue. And I'll tell you something, man, I fucking love Donal Logue. Yeah. He is the most pleasant. Screen presence, I can remember.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I don't think I've ever seen him in a negative. Like, I've never been like, oh, no, Donald Lowe. I can't think of anything really negative. I think he disappeared from consciousness. Yeah. At some point, like no one, no one has thought about him after a certain point. Yep. But I think he comported himself as a celebrity well.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Of course. No, I just, I turned it on. I saw him and I was like, Donald Lowe. Like, there's no reason for me. What's Terrier's about? It's like a, it's actually a really fun, like, little mystery show. It's really good. It's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I remember loving it, and I'm looking forward to watching it again. But what my bright spot is, is just knowing Donald Logue is out there, just still doing it, just still being him. Sure. I'm so scared to overcommit to this because it's like, I Google this. At the very least, at the very least, I have not looked him up within the past five to ten years, and he has not murdered anybody prior to five to ten years ago. True. So in the meeting time, yes. Maybe he has murdered a bunch of people, but that's not my fault.
Starting point is 00:04:50 He's not somebody that is like people are complaining about a ton, which is in and of itself probably a good thing. No news is good news. Right. Yes. Oh. He was on those MTV things, the cab thing. God, the next tomorrow it's going to be like, don't alone get the Epstein file. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:05:09 That would be amazing. That would be a turn. Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that. I'll never watch it, but great. It's great. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right. We're still in the present because another possible forever war has been foisted upon us.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And it's fun to watch and see how Alex is coping. So we're going to talk about March 3rd, 2026. But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wong. That's a great idea. So first, your mispronunciation of Ruth Gator Binnsberg has created a cannon, rubbish-dwelling crocodile in my head. Thank you so much. You're now, Paul Zerwong. I'm a policy won.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, shout out to Mark with a C. Preparer of PPP's, Calibrator of Calipers, wielder of the sword of Orion and Father of the Moon, keep your arms wide open. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And episode 1100 mentions wearing shoes while recording, so I demand to know if you're from one of those strange places where people wear shoes indoors all the time, or if you record in a strange mudroom slash studio, you-combo. Thank you so much. You're not a policy walk. I'm a policy one. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I remember when I was growing up in Hawaii, you'd always take off your shoes. No shoes. Yeah, yeah. Like it was all very regular. Then we moved to Missouri and it was less so. But I think we still took off our shoes a bit. Sure. I feel like I don't wear shoes in the house. Yeah. Unless someone else is around. Okay. I think it's you. Okay. You think I am the reason that you wear shoes. Not your fault.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Right, right, right. I think I'm projecting something on you that I don't want to be around you without shoes on. You don't want to be around me without shoes on. Well, like I will feel childish or something. You do not want to be around me, but you are in this situation, are the person who is not wearing shoes, as opposed to you don't want to be around me in case I'm not wearing shoes. Yeah, I don't care whether you're wearing shoes or not. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But I feel like I would feel unprofessional or something. All right. Because I put on shoes before you come over. Yeah. Well, not always, but most of the time. Or when you have gotten over. Right, right, right. Did maybe somebody tell you that you had a sweaty feet or something when you were a kid?
Starting point is 00:07:30 I'm certain someone did. Well, I mean, that's fair. I'm positive because I do. That's fair. That's fair. No, I don't know what it is. I think there's something about, you know, like, it's, it occupies the same part of my brain as the people who are like never go on state. in shorts.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yep, yep, yep. That kind of thing. Like, you don't want to do stand-up in shorts, and I don't want to do a podcast with my shoes. Believe me, I won't argue. I would prefer we both wore shoes, so I'm right there with you. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I don't truck with people who wear shorts on stage. So we also got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to my cats are so fat that I call them my policy chonks. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy won't.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone. someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark bomb bomb bomb jar jar binks has a Caribbean black accent he's a loser little little titty baby I don't want to hate black people I renounce Jesus Christ I've had slippers at some points in my life yeah and I think that those are comfy and fun but I haven't been able to find a pair that I like I found some bad ones that I just don't wear but I would like that I got I I got some, listen, you, listen, I got some nice lips, right?
Starting point is 00:08:49 You speak it into the world, the people who buy me nice lips might just wind up thinking, oh, I'm going to get Dan a nice. You mean your wife? Yes, absolutely. Those sweatpants are nice. I know. I know they are. She wants to buy these slippers. You keep saying that you like things.
Starting point is 00:09:03 She's going to keep doing it. Shit. I'm going to be so cozy. I mean, it's how I live. So today, Jordan, like I said, going over March 3rd. Sure. Trump has attacked Iran. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:17 There's been a couple days of a lot of things going on. Sure. A lot of bombs here, a lot of bombs there. You know. And so Alex shows up to the show, and he's a little bit late. It is Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026. This is an emergency broadcast. We are in a planetary emergency.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I was a minute late sliding into my chair because someone much new stuff was coming out right as I was going on. The developments are so dangerous, so momentous. It is hard for me to even know where to begin. So Alex goes on to say it like there's layers of complexity to this, and that's just not true. I'll grant that there are a ton of headlines coming out and news items about various attacks happening in a bunch of countries, but I think that none of that should matter
Starting point is 00:10:25 for Alex. In InfoWars terms, this situation is so fucking simple. We're in a planetary crisis because of the war that's been launched with Iran. This is how Alex decided to put it and how he opened the show. So let's imagine for a second that's what he actually means. If we're in a planetary crisis because of the war with Iran, then we should ask why that war is happening. Trump and Israel carried out a large-scale attack,
Starting point is 00:10:51 which killed the Ayatollah, which seemingly had very little plan of what to do next other than keep bombing stuff. Surprise. So for Alex, the story should be very clear. Trump has put us into a planetary crisis. Before he attacked Iran, there was a relative calm, or at very least we weren't in a planetary crisis, so Trump's actions led us to this point.
Starting point is 00:11:13 To accept this conclusion, Alex would need to recognize that his fervent support for Trump, his blind support for every tyrannical thing his administration has done, the way he sold the audience empty promises just meant to expand Trump's ability to act as a dictator, or all of that are, they're all essential pieces
Starting point is 00:11:29 of how we were brought to a planetary crisis. Alex cried on air about how he would die for Trump and that has led to a planetary crisis. So maybe Alex has terrible instincts or even worse, wants a planetary crisis.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Right. This is why there are tons of layers of complexity and Alex can't just look at this story as it is. If he did, he'd have to call himself a fucking idiot for getting played by the world's most obvious con man because he liked how that con- man didn't seem to mind people using slurs. The reason there needs to be complexity now is that
Starting point is 00:12:02 Alex can't deny that there's a planetary crisis. The audience would never accept that, so he needs to work around that reality. Thankfully, the government is helping provide some talking points, with folks like Marco Rubio coming out and saying that it was a matter of hitting Iran before they hit us. By adding this piece to the puzzle, you can say that we were in a planetary crisis before Trump launched the attack, and it was just a matter of gaining. the first move advantage in a war that was inevitable. Trump didn't cause the planetary crisis. He just accurately assessed that one was already happening
Starting point is 00:12:34 and gave America the best chance of coming out on top. This is an angle that Alex can try and use, but it's also paper thin, and anyone who lived through the Iraq war era would remember Alex basing his career on rejecting these kinds of rationalizations for preemptive attacks that start sprawling wars. There's a lot of complexity for Alex,
Starting point is 00:12:54 not because the question is actually complicated, but because it's hard to tell which of these angles is going to be viable. If he had any spine at all, he would have left Trump already and started calling for his impeachment long ago. So it's important to understand that his primary question is what story works best for me? Can he use this as a breaking point with Trump without torpedoing his own credibility in the process? Or can he come up with some narrative about how Trump was right to launch the war without losing all of the anti-war people within the audience that he's built. It's a very difficult spot for Alex to be in,
Starting point is 00:13:28 but thankfully his audience is kind of dumb and probably won't notice that he's going to do both and neither simultaneously. Yep. So a lot of complexity. It is very complex. It's a complex situation. I mean, I suppose it is complex for a very small group of people who get to make all the decisions, but because they suck so hard,
Starting point is 00:13:52 it feels very simple for everybody else on the planet. And it's just being like, oh, these guys got to get out of here, man. Yeah, and for someone especially who has the brand that Alex has. Yeah. The idea of Mark, the idea of somebody being like, oh, well, we had to hit him before Iran
Starting point is 00:14:08 launched a strike on a thousand mile away country that does not come anywhere near them. And what are you talking about? They're going to go, they're going to, what, hit fucking, you got, damn Columbus, Ohio. That's what a round's going for. Yeah, that's just what they told us before Iraq.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Insane. Insane. Yeah, it's just very tough to imagine anybody who has any interest in Info Wars as the thing, not seeing that as like, this is bullshit. This is bullshit. This is how we got talked to. Like, Alex, you've done long shows on this being how we get talked into war and Bush justifies going to Iraq.
Starting point is 00:14:47 like we're doing this again? The number of small town, my small town growing up, the number of people being like, you got to be ready, they might be coming for us. That should, we should, it should never happen again.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Of all the things that we should never forget, we should never forget some asshole in fucking, some tiny town somewhere being like, oh man, they're coming for me. No, they're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I mean, it just, it shows like how we don't learn from hysteria. No. Oh, well. Nope. So Alex, he wants to be very specific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:21 He's going to say some things on this show. Of course. But when he means it, he'll tell you. Okay. There are so many layers to this. And I think it's very important, especially for new listeners and viewers to understand, that I will watermark this broadcast verbally every five minutes or so explaining that my view is this and I was against this war.
Starting point is 00:15:46 but then I will walk through the Iranians perspective, the Chinese perspective, the Arab perspective, the Israeli, that's what I do. And what a lot of corporate media and others do is they
Starting point is 00:16:02 pick little pieces out of the show and claim this is what Jones thinks when I'm giving an Israeli perspective or an Iranian perspective or a Chinese perspective. And that's part of the clickbait mental illness that's even more dangerous than AI deep fakes. It's really one of the tactics that's flooding the internet with so much confusion.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's not just done to me. It's done all over the place. From this point, Alex does not continue to watermark the show in any way at all. He is totally right about this clickbait mental illness thing, though. The only issue is that he's part of a media ecosystem that literally only exists because they exploit that. All of his documentaries are largely based on taking quotes and video out of content. in order to make people think they're saying something that they're not, so he can get off his goddamn high horse here.
Starting point is 00:16:50 This is ridiculous. It would be helpful. As someone who observes this kind of media, I do also think that Alex is right about some of the coverage that he gets from various outlets. Sure. It's a very common thing for some meme to be going around of Alex saying something, and it's just being presented to make him look bad and it's entirely out of context. That does happen.
Starting point is 00:17:09 There's an interesting dynamic with Alex himself, though, which I've seen plenty of times when someone's done him. dirty with an out-of-context clip, but I've never really seen an instance of that where Alex hasn't said the same thing or worse in context at some other time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are very few clips where I'm like, hey, that's not fair to Alex, where I'm like, but he also did say that another time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:32 That's like, okay, that's hitting the four-dimensional bullseye wrong, you know? Like, all right, you hit the dartboard. It wasn't on the right day, but you hit the board. All right? You don't get zero points. Yeah, the only people who like maliciously and sincerely take him out of context are like us when we're doing an out of context drop. Yeah. Like he didn't yell, I denounce Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Right. Like that was wildly out of context. Right. That's unfair for fun. That's what we're doing. Yeah. But like people who have those memes and stuff like, yeah, it's like, you're right and wrong. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, listen, just because other people also suck doesn't mean that gets you off the hook
Starting point is 00:18:14 for sucking more. True. You know? So Alex is going to not justify Trump's attack on Iran, but also kind of justify. But really not. We're in trouble. All right. So I'm going to give me the bottom line of why Trump's doing this and why he thinks it's the
Starting point is 00:18:30 right thing to do. And that is on an endorsement of it. Just said it again. And then I'm going to get into the Iranians and their plan to fight to the absolute death. And the straight-of-ormoos being closed, China in total panic mode, the markets panicking. They tried to meet their Supreme Council again to elect from the Council of 12 a ring race to be the new Soron. Is Bill Gates still in the Council of 12?
Starting point is 00:19:01 And why we're told by the Pentagon, oh, we're just taking out their weapons, then Trump's like Noah's regime change. And so much more. But as I predicted, this had a very good chance to go on sideways. See, it has. And now. Now it's about to go over a cliff. We're in deep shit. So Alex can do this. I'm not endorsing Trump's actions as many times as he wants. He can play that game all day.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And every time he does, it should be a reminder that he is endorsing these actions. We've seen the way he acts when he doesn't endorse something like a war. And we've seen the way he acts when he's trying to make rationalizations for why the audience should kind of just shut up and accept it. And it's very clear that this is the latter. Also, it's not very important, but Alex doesn't really know anything about how the Iranian government operates. The Ayatollah successor is not selected by a council of 12. That's something that's done by the Assembly of Experts, which is an 88 member body made up of clerics. For someone to become a member of that group, they have to be approved by the Guardian Council, which does have 12 members.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Sure. But I also, I don't think that Alex is referring to that. I would strongly suggest he is not. The headline that Alex skimmed and is now incorrectly reporting on is that Israel bombed the building that houses the Assembly of Experts, which likely, It was an attempt to stop them from being able to name a successor. Sure. All of the articles I can find about the attack make it clear the building was destroyed, but there were no casualties reported. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And Alex is saying that they've just killed the council of 12. Yeah. No, if I'm somebody in Iran who is maybe part of that very important, any one of the important bodies, period. And they were like, hey, yeah, Trump blew up Kamene, I would be like, cool, I'm going to be underground for a while. I'm going to be under the ground for a while. I don't know if you'll see me again.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Oh, what's this in the news? Trump says, we're going to keep doing this. Surprise, motherfuckers. Breakaway society. I've taken it over. Oh, man. Man, oh, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:01 There's just, like, Alex and I have a great handle on this, and I think he's approaching it from a very insincere angle. Yeah. So, oh, well. Yeah. Anyway, the world is at war. Everything is terrible. in deep shit.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Wow. But also Hillary. Nice. It's about time that we got back to her. Remember she exists? Yeah, I do. Well, we got this Iran war expanding and spiraling and metastasizing. We'll be getting to that in great detail today.
Starting point is 00:21:29 What is doing in the markets? They just took out a whole bunch of the Mullahs council trying to elect a new Soron. But I wanted to get Representative Eric Burleson to pop in because I know he was in both the hearings. well the depositions of Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton and it's obviously one thing a few days later to see video of it but to be there in person to see the behind-the-scenes stuff and to see Hillary acting like she knows nothing about Gisland Maxwell or anybody after 2008 even though she was at
Starting point is 00:22:02 her daughter's wedding and so much more after that we know they were heavily involved in their foundation and then the founding of it and I think Hillary's really committed perjury here it wouldn't be the first time. Oh. I just, I don't, I don't feel like this is a great use of time. No. Nope.
Starting point is 00:22:21 What are we doing? We're in deep shit. Trump is launching World War III. Hillary perjured herself. I think Hillary committed perjury. But, hey, if it's the first time, this is quite a development. Wow. But this is just yet another time she is.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Wow. Oh, God. Just putting it on the tally for a number of times that Hillary's, hold on, hold on. Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Forgive me. I forgot. We still just kidnapped another leader from a different country. I was still on that one, but in the meantime, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Hillary is committed perjury somewhere. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying, hey, let's ignore Hillary. I'm not saying that everybody should just say, hey, your deposition is 100% truthful and we have no concerns about you. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that Alex's show started with, we're in a planetary quarter. crisis. If that's the case, Hillary's deposition is kind of not important. If we're in a zombie outbreak, right, and I'm at a hospital, and I'm charged with doing triage,
Starting point is 00:23:22 and somebody comes in and they're like, ah, I got a nail in my hand. I'm like, that is really terrible, but you're going to have to wait. You're going to have to wait for a while, because there's a lot of zombies around. And they need to be handled first. Yeah. So Alex has this guy, Eric Berlinson, Burlinson, Burlins. He's a Missouri congressman. Oh, boy. State congressman or? Formerly state, now federal.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Okay. All right. Moving his way up. He's a guy who I don't really have a lot of knowledge about and was surprised to see another sitting member of Congress on Alex's show. And he did not disappoint. He sucks a lot. What are the next steps in this? Because we got a nice confidence act from Hillary and Bell.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You know, heard laughing at, oh, there's no connection. to us and Pizza Gate. They divert off this pizza place that the media did. They created the story about the pizza place, not the WikiLeaks where they say to John Podesta, and it's a woman that ran a service where you could rent kids just for fun. I mean, it literally says it on her side, I don't say for what.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And she said, we're delivering seven, her name, nine. Take the L. 11-year-old children to the wooded facility, a retreat log cabin. that there's a hot tub by the pool. They'll be there at this time in the pool and the hot tub for your entertainment. But remember, they're well trained, but they are children. I mean, and there's hundreds of those.
Starting point is 00:24:52 These are real. And she just acting like she doesn't know. And I noticed that whoever was asked the question at that time started to go there. And I could see Hillary, even though she puts on that, you know, act that she's confident, getting really scared right there. Because that's smoking gun stuff. What are seven-year-olds being delivered by Uber to the woods to John Podesta for his entertainment? Yeah, I mean, Podesta was another individual that did come up.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So you might notice that that version of the story Alex is telling that is stretching the narrative and adding more salacious details to Podesta's email. Maybe. And if you understand what he's doing here, it makes total sense. This is a power test that Alex is giving his guest. They haven't spoken before, and this guy's in Congress, so Alex doesn't fully know if he can big dog him. But this is a good way to find out. Alex is making up all kinds of details about a person who rents kids, and the test is to see if the representative will play along.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yep. If he nods along with Alex telling this story, then Alex can be pretty confident that this guy has no interest in reporting accurate stories. It is willing to yes and whatever nonsense Alex throws out. Alex is testing the waters to see if he can lie freely with this guy. If you don't push back on that story, then you're either insane or you're clearly indicating that you'll take on a submissive role in this role play of Info Wars pretending to be a news show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's important to do with someone, especially who, like, is an elected official because they might have more dignity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And that means you can't fuck with them. I mean, theoretically, we have the possibility of human beings in power who would be like, regardless of my political affiliation, it is unbecoming of you to speak of such people in such a manner, right? That's possible. Or at the very least, you could be like, try not being insane, you know? But this one, him just being like, hey, Podesta's crazy, right? You got one. Or like, A, what you're doing is making a cartoon out of a serious issue.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Absolutely. I don't want to be a part of it. Thank you. Click. Yep. Nope. He was like, Podesta.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm with you. Let's roll. Yeah, he passed the test. Yep. The Infoores test. Wow, which is failing the living test. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And he fails even harder. Oh, no. Yeah. I mean, Podesta was another individual that did come up. But he, look, there's so many people that are connected to the Clintons.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And frankly, Hillary had amnesia on almost every connection and every interaction. So she distanced herself from, quite a lot of it. In fact, she seemed to be living her life in such a way that everything revolves around her and she doesn't really pay much attention to what's happening in the lives of the people around her. In fact, I asked the question, you know, I mean, one would think that she cares about her daughter. One would think. Her daughter was traveling with Galane Maxwell and traveling with Jeffrey Epstein. They were at the wedding at Morocco, the famous wedding where Bill was in,
Starting point is 00:28:01 likely that's the location where he's in the hot tub and and she was only 21 years old at that time well that would put her in the in an age that would be would make her potentially a victim and so i'd asked Hillary did you ever consider that chelsea might have been a victim and did you ask her questions now that you know well she refused to really answer that question she really fell back on that She, you know, all of this happened at a time when she was not involved with did not have a relationship and she, she had no idea what was going on. This is disgusting. Yep. This guy who's a member of Congress is creating a fantasy about Chelsea Clinton being abused by Epstein and Maxwell and then asking Hillary about it in a deposition.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Mm-hmm. Then he's going on a dipshit's radio show to complain about how Hillary didn't seem concerned about that possibility that he invented enough. These people are fucking clowns. And this kind of shit makes a mockery of what's, at all. actually, you know, it means to care about a subject like this. Do you think your daughter was abused by Epstein? Isn't like a random question that it's appropriate for a congressperson to ask someone unless that person is specifically there to talk about that possibility?
Starting point is 00:29:14 If that is the premise of the deposition, then it makes sense. Sure. This is wildly inappropriate. Yep. There's no reason that this guy would ask Hillary that question except to try to piss her off or to get a disappointing reaction from her. that he can try and weaponize on media and social media later. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And there's no reason to think that someone who believes themselves to be capable of holding public office wouldn't understand that. Yeah. And it's fucking gross. Yeah. Yeah. Beyond the horrifying ghoulishness to remove all of that out of the way, which is so much. Even then, it's like, okay, so you've painted her as the most powerful person in the world
Starting point is 00:29:55 who can fucking destroy everything while at the same. time her daughter is at risk at all times what the fuck are you talking about that's how much she's that's how evil she is she doesn't care that's your point is that she's so powerful that if somebody fucked with her daughter she would murder them hmm not like hey well maybe you would because you're human it's insane you care about your family not like these demons it is it's fucked up no it is it is disgusting and like uh let's just imagine a scenario where like he his fantasy is right and Chelsea was a victim. He doesn't care? He doesn't care. He doesn't care. And what does asking this question
Starting point is 00:30:37 help further in terms of helping? It helps make him think she's a bad mother. Right. Great. You PR fuck? I respect that the game has to be played no matter the circumstances. I get that we live in a world where the game exists no matter what context is going on. But, seriously, the idea of even giving a shit about the specifics of any name that was, your name was in there, fuck off. Right? I don't need to, I don't need a single detail. I don't need one.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah. Yeah. Fuck off. Yeah. And I think that, I think that if there are people who are, you know, entrusted with the public trust. Yeah. To, you know, be our representatives.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You can't act like this. You can't act. You just can't act like it. You can't do it. not even like a, hey, you get one. No, you acted like this. Now you're not in charge of stuff. Yeah, like, because when you're saying like,
Starting point is 00:31:36 hey, did you think about whether or not Epstein abused your child, like to Hillary Clinton, are you trolling? Yeah. Is that supposed to be like an epic troll moment? Right. Because if so, you're a monster. You know, we make legislation here. This isn't where we go around being like, ha, ha, ha, ha, you suck.
Starting point is 00:31:57 This is supposed to be like, hey, if this happens, then somebody gets taxed more. Yeah, you should probably take it seriously. Jesus. Anyway, Trump on the Epstein stuff is totally cool. I bet he is. He's just doing a cover-up. Soup. And then we get all the Epstein files, and I've literally seen 500 of them where it says things like delivering the sex slave to the Hyatt, had to beat up the sex slave later, didn't carry out the mission right, didn't carry out the mission right.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We got one piece of pizza that's glowing. and really you're going to enjoy it. It's really loving. But 70 you're going to have to share it and slice, you know, thinly, thinly slice it. On, well, you bought my baby. Do you want to buy more? And real Epstein emails. And we got Cash Patel saying there's nothing to investigate. I think that's one thing that's really pissed off constituents. I already studied Trump, already knew all about him, already knew the socialites.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I knew Trump had nothing to do with underage girls, very little due with Epstein, except being fellow socialites in New York and Florida. and so just overall, there have been some Republicans that have been really pushing and doing a great job, I think. And I think the administration has unduly demonized them
Starting point is 00:33:04 for wanting to get the bottom of this where they're just being moral and doing what their constituents want. Unduly demonize them? The fuck are you doing? Like, come on, man. What is happening? What is this?
Starting point is 00:33:18 Trump is just like trying to protect his occasional socialite buddy who he wasn't that involved with. And that's why he's, demonizing his allies in Congress and making them quit. You know, it's like, it's like when it's, it's such relativity, you know, whenever people have adjusted their baseline to where it's like, oh, that's not even, don't even worry about that.
Starting point is 00:33:42 He's just demonizing people who are looking into something. Right. He's just trying to make sure that people who are investigating something are hated by all, you know. And so he's using his power to. to make people hate him. Hold on. It's not because he's involved. No.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He's just protecting his elite class interests. Which makes it better that it's not even personal. It is just purely class-based. And that makes you sure you will never break free, you poor pieces of shit. But the point is that he's cool. Yeah, that is true. He's cool. Alex looked into it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 He is cool. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Fucking awful. My God. Yeah, we're past the point where any of this is really defensible in any way. Yeah. But this guy, this Eric fella, sure.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He's got an interesting take about what Congress's responsibility is. Let's hear it. I think that we have way too much confidence in the FBI and the Department of Justice and their ability to pull this off and to do a thorough investigation. I mean, the longer that I'm- Do we have any? The more that I'm convinced that government is not the answer to our problems. I really think that getting these documents, I hope that the, that folk, like, your listening audience and people that, um, can
Starting point is 00:35:03 dedicate time to this are going to do the job that the government has no, no desire to do, really. This is such a bleak image. Like, I get people not believing in the government's ability to get things done, but it's wild to hear this kind of thing coming from someone who's an elected politician and is literally one of the government bureaucrats that he's complaining about. Yep. This guy, Eric Berlison, is only been in Congress on the federal level since 2023, but he's been in the Missouri Congress since 2009.
Starting point is 00:35:35 He's new to the federal level of political bureaucracy, but he's a longtime government person. He's not like freshly realizing that, oh, my God, things are slow. His position seems downright cynical, where he's like, well, the government can't hold child traffickers accountable, so hopefully we can release a bunch of documents and then vigilantes can, do the rest. That's what someone in Congress is saying, which should help make clear how blurred the line is between government official and online shit talker. Because here's the deal. When Eric's, he was trying to get elected, you can bet he didn't try to appeal to voters this way. He didn't try to get into Congress based on a we can't do anything platform. In fact, his election
Starting point is 00:36:18 website says, quote, I have experience identifying holes in our system and working quickly to fix them. As President Trump fought election integrity at the national level, I battled it on the state level by spearheading legislation to clean up rampant initiative petitions and referendums. He literally says, quote, I'm proud of my record, but now I'm taking the fight for freedom to D.C. I'm going to Washington to clean house. I say this as a podcaster and as a fellow Missourian. Go do a podcast, you dumb fuck. Yeah. If you think the government can work, uh, good, try. if you think that the government can't work, don't take a fucking seat in the government.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Step aside and let someone who believes the thing can work try. I mean, it's, it is, it is amazing to not feel that is an indictment to oneself to say, you know that thing that I do, useless. No, it's not. That's a real feeling to have when you have a job. Because sometimes it feels like you're a cog in a machine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And maybe you don't understand. all the time why it is that you're doing the thing you're doing. Am I making a difference? Sure. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. If you're in an elected position, you had to appeal to a public that they should put their trust in you to be their representative in a system.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah. And no one, not nobody, not even Ron fucking Paul is going to get elected on a we can't do anything platform. Like, he had to have lied to his constituents. Yeah. to have these doubts about... I mean, on the other hand, he has been elected many times in Missouri before. So it wouldn't surprise me if everybody already knew that he was a gigantic piece of shit
Starting point is 00:38:05 and that they want him to be there to say stuff like, I can't help you. I think he... I don't remember exactly where his district is, but, you know, a lot of those are pretty safe. A lot of Missouri districts are pretty safe for Republicans. I bet they're real safe. So, yeah. I bet you don't even need to worry about what words you say to them. You just need to make sure that you use the slur for...
Starting point is 00:38:24 from time to time outside. I'm not sure. Look, Missouri gets a bet. Whatever. Listen. I think you wouldn't make it through the primary. If you were like, we can't do anything. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:38:35 The government sucks. We're just going to leak stuff to conspiracy theorists so they can make shit up. I mean, you would hope that wouldn't get you in, but hey, we live in, we live in strange times. No. I think, I think that this, uh, this dude's a fuckhead. Yeah. Anyway, um, the justice department, they've released all these Epstein emails, right? and all these files.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But they also made them hard to search. And that was on purpose. Oh, no. But the Justice Department made it. We only searched 10 items at a time, both in the public database, the one that Congress can see, and broke the links in the photos and videos,
Starting point is 00:39:08 though we found a way to find them. So it's the searchability function. When I've talked to IT, but it's done on purpose to limit it to 10. It makes it easier for the database to actually search at all, just like Google does. So they're deliberately making it hard to search,
Starting point is 00:39:22 which again, who runs or ran the FBI security parameters in all their computers? Gislayne Maxwell's sister. Did you know that? I had no idea. I did not know that. I truly, unlike the cleanse, I truly did not know that. Nice.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Get a dig in. It's in this $3 million. And guess where her sister works, she runs the World Economic Forum's complete computer systems and security. Smoking gun. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Wow. The claim that Alex is making there is that Galane Maxwell's sister ran, quote, the security parameters and all the FBI's computers. Yeah. Which is another power test for this guest. Yep. If he believes Alex, then Alex can say anything. He probably isn't going to push back because realistically, what is Alex even saying?
Starting point is 00:40:13 The first question that you need to ask is, which sister is Alex talking about? Hmm. Robert Maxwell had nine children and Galane wasn't the only daughter. Sure. It's most likely that Alex is talking about her two sisters, Isabel and Christine, who founded an early search engine called Magellan in 1993, which was then bought by Excite in 1996.
Starting point is 00:40:33 This is an interesting piece of information, but does that justify and back up Alex's claim at all? No. Wait, hold on, I'm... They are unrelated bits of information. But can kind of feel related because they have to do with search. I suppose if you really, really, really are only Alex Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So there were a bunch of memes going around dipshit social media last week that claimed that Isabel Maxwell ran Amber Alerts, or the program that sends out warnings about missing children. Sure. This was not true, and it was likely based on a confusion of a company called ComTech, which is involved with Amber Alerts, and one called ComTouch, which is not, but is connected to Isabel and is a British cybersecurity company. this shit. How often does this shit happen? Quite regularly. I hate it. I hate that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Anyway, this congressman is just flipped over to Alex and shown his little belly, clearly messaging to him that his mind is ready to be blown by whatever not true, but exciting thing Alex wants to tell him. Did you know that Gilane Maxwell's sister ran all the security parameters of the FBI? Wow. I didn't know that because that's an insane thing to say. Period. Yeah. Not even, not even, but get rid of the Maxwell part of it. and just get to, why would anybody have just one person in charge of those things? Also, why would you put a single person in charge of those things? What do you mean by security parameters?
Starting point is 00:42:00 What does that even mean? That's what? That's how unsecured things are supposed to. What? Yeah. I don't know. I think this guy is a real winner in Congress. I'm glad that we've got the people we've got.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I think that they're all, what I really think is that they're all winners. You know, doesn't matter what party you're in. They're just winners. Yeah, they get it. Yep. So, Alex, he's talking a bit about the situation in Iran. Yeah. I believe Eric is gone by now.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I'm not sure he's a dud. Who cares? But I think that Alex doesn't really have as much of a problem with this as you'd want him to. Yeah, there's now talk of, we know there's special ops there, but actual ground invasion is on the table. I mean, I know trouble us to leave it on the table, so they don't, you know, underestimate us. but obviously Congress will need to vote on this if we're going to have a ground invasion. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Oh, he's still here. Well, I'll say this. I'm sure you will. He is pro-America. We can say some of it might not be right. We all have our opinions. But this is definitely in his perspective, of America first.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So is Venezuela. It's destroying the old globalist order. We're acting unilaterally, which we should as a nation in our interest. And so I had grave concerns, as the founder of Blackwater did. And even the chairman of the Joint Chief said there's a lot of downsides of role
Starting point is 00:43:20 the dice. I think the president did this from a place of thinking it's the right thing to do. But I agree now that this has happened, I hope the regime falls quickly, or we realize they're not going to fall and pull back quickly or Congress votes. You should go to the American people. Maybe
Starting point is 00:43:35 he should do a poll and see what they want. But it's definitely a historic moment and definitely he has destroyed the old globalist order. Yeah, maybe it should do a Twitter poll, but whether or not Iran should get bombed. The idea that you could be alive right now and go like, well, surely Congress will have to vote on that is absurd.
Starting point is 00:43:58 While you're talking to someone who's in Congress. Right. And Alex is saying that like everything Trump does is for America and maybe you don't agree with it. So why do we need? Why do we need Congress? Right. Congress, if they're not doing what Trump does, then they're being un-American. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:14 It's easy to see the connection there. They might disagree with what Trump's doing, but that's just because they're misinterpreting what he's doing, and they don't understand how it helps America. I can't see the long game. Right. I would say that at this point, if it's me, I am purely just going to see what the fuck you idiots will take. That's what I'll do. If I'm Trump, I'm just going like, yeah, what next? Nobody's going to stop me when I do anything.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Try. I dare you. I'm going to pee on the table of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Stop me! I dare you! See, I think that his behavior and what you're describing wouldn't look that different. Because there's a chance that he actually just doesn't want to pee on that table. And that's why we're not seeing it happen.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And that's why we're not getting a peed on. That's it. Because he doesn't... He's breaking a lot of laws. He likes to pee in his own place. If he likes to pee on your table, he would pee on your table. Yeah. Maybe we should like start a campaign of like Trump is too afraid to pee on something.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, I believe it. Like bait him into it. He doesn't have the... He doesn't have the fucking backbone to pee on shit, let alone the urinary tract necessary. George Washington would pee on that desk. Absolutely. That red-haired giant would pee all over everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So Tucker has come out and said, hey, it's Israel's fault. Well, I'm presumably that. But I mean, it is. It is. In a manner. Yeah. It's also our fault. We're all teaming up to make bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:45:42 But he's trying to put the blame pretty squarely. I would imagine. into Israel. And Alex has decided, I'm going to go ahead and take that. Yeah. I'm going to go with that. That's a easy W. Right now, I want to just say that I 100% agree with Tucker Carlson that Benjamin Netanyahu's been in power 25 plus years. He's out of control. He's super unpopular. And he is manipulating us into all of this. And just as I said over the weekend, I said Saturday, notice Israel struck first during the day. The U.S. never attacks during the day in these things in a major operation.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And clearly, they precipitated and jumped the gun to force us into it. In fact, have the archives find that, please, from Saturday. And I said it's Sunday, too. So this is a great dodge for Alex and Tucker, but it's not really real. The idea for the folks like Alex and Tucker who, they can see the writing on the wall and they know that they've overcommitted to Trump is that they need a scapegoat. And that's going to be Israel. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:37 There's no problem with people having very serious criticisms in opposition to the Israeli government and because that position is also held by a large portion of the left, these Nazis are going to try and hide behind them. You're going to see a lot of that. Attacking Iran and starting this war is definitely something that Trump did, but Israel and Netanyahu forced him to. That's the angle that Alex thinks is going to fly and the position that he's doubling down on with Tucker.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. Unfortunately, Trump held a press conference and literally said, quote, based on the way the negotiation was going, I thought they were going to attack first. If anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. So I guess we're now in a position where Trump is a liar or... I mean, it's nice of him to handle this stuff for us. Is he lying about that? You know, I, for my entire life, every president has been lying nonstop all the time. It is refreshing to hear a psychos tell the truth. I will say that. But like, whether or not you believe him to be lying, can Alex, except that, okay, I have to choose between Israel forced him to do this.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Right. But if, or Trump wanted to do this. Right. If I take the Israel forced him argument, then he just lied to everyone about why we did this. Yeah. There's no win. You know, here's what's interesting to me. I feel like being manipulated is not a thing that people are understanding very well. because if you know you're being manipulated,
Starting point is 00:48:13 you are not being manipulated. Awareness is required, or lack of awareness is required to be manipulated. If you are aware of it, you're just agreeing to do stuff. That's just a regular conversation. It is only if you have no idea what's going on. So if he was talking to them and they were like,
Starting point is 00:48:30 hey, you should bomb them. And he's like, yeah, that's not being manipulated. No. Nope. That's just a regular talk. Manipulation, like a lot of the behavior, that are involved in it are very similar to negotiation and cooperation. Yeah. It's a choice and an amount of information you have. Those are the differences.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Yep. So, hey, man, did you ever watch Mr. Show? I did. I liked it a lot. Do you remember the sketch where Jack Black played a farmer, a simple farmer? No, I don't remember that one. It was based on a southern gentleman. She was in Congress who had a little joke that he told. Yeah. But there's a, there's a kindly farmer who takes in a leather pants salesman.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Sure. He says, hey, you can sleep in my barn. Of course. But there's three holes in the wall. Uh-oh. Don't stick your dick in those holes. No. Do you know why?
Starting point is 00:49:24 Do you remember why? I don't. Because in the first hole, there's the farmer's daughter. Sure. Second hole, his wife. Yep. Third hole, there's a milking machine. Bad.
Starting point is 00:49:35 It doesn't turn off until a certain amount of gallons are withdrawn. Anyway. Yep. I bring this up because this clip ends with Alex saying that Trump put our dick and hole. Hey! Clearly like Eric Prince warned and the Georgia staff had Kane said, this is murky water. And I remember growing up, my dad would tell me, hey, your friends someday will take you out in the woods at a river or a creek or the beach. And there'll be people jumping off cliffs into water and stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And if you can't see the bottom and you haven't gone in check, don't jump off. kill your friends. And my brother broke his leg. And you're hearing this when you're five years old. Okay, Dad, okay. And then all of a sudden you're 14 years old with older kids. And the kid jumps off and compound fractures jumps into murky water. I mean, you don't jump into water.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You don't know what's in it. I mean, it's- And that's why I want Trump for president. Well, we've had so much success. We won all these wars. Let's just do it again. It's like walking around in the desert or West Texas. You got a hole there, a hole there.
Starting point is 00:50:42 One hole might have an act. a pygmy owl in it. One might have a toad in it. One might have a helo monster in it. One might have a rattlesnake in it. You just don't go sticking your arm down holes. And we stuck our, basically Trump stuck our dick in a hole. So this is a-
Starting point is 00:51:02 We're fucking a rattlesnake. And something's biting on the end of it. And it don't feel good. Something's biting my dick. What an amazing. Like, okay. This is a family show by that. It's a fun.
Starting point is 00:51:15 It's a fun delightful metaphor. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoy it a great deal. What a crazy thing to say about a positive viewed person. I think the view is evolving in front of our eyes. I think we're getting towards like him trying to be allowed to say bad things about Trump. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But he's still positive about him. I will say this. I would go a long, it would take a long way before I was like, you know what? It was the rattlesnake biting my dick that got me. I was fine with so much else on this terrible journey into the American Southwest. But man, this rattlesnick on my dick is really the breaking point. Trump put my dick in a hole. There's a rattle snake.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Now I have no dick. Here's also the problem that I have with this metaphor. Yeah. The arm still works. The arm does still work. Trump could still be putting our arm in a hole. It does not need to go to dick. I mean, for Trump it does.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Trump's going to fuck that rattlesnake. I get it. But Alex is saying that Trump. put our dick in a hole. Yes. He could just still put our arm in a hole. Yes, that's very possible. It doesn't need to be the dick.
Starting point is 00:52:25 There are any number of, in fact, what makes it such an apt comparison is that there are any number of choices that Trump could have made, even within the metaphor, that would be bad, but would still be better than putting one's dick in a hole. Yep. Anyway, don't put your dick in these holes. Don't put your dick in a hole. You can sleep in the barn. Don't put your dick in these holes.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Classic Jack Black. Classic. Political juicants, as they said. I think that these are good pieces of advice, though. Like, don't jump into murky water. That is good. No, I'm fuck a hole in the ground. These are good pieces of advice.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah. I would take these. So Alex has a guest on who's not in Congress. Sure. But he is his gold sponsor. Wow. Just briefly, he's got to go soon. Not in Congress.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah. Also our huge sponsor. And by the way, I forgot to bring this up with you. wanted to get you on about Tucker Carlson, who I agree with, exposing these gold companies, ripping people off. We've said exactly the same thing. We've explained, though, I'll watch this documentary. It's great, but it makes it so technical. It's very simple. If someone's selling you gold at wholesale price, you can check the price and know you're getting the best deal. That's what Elliott does. It's so simple to just explain this. Anybody can verify it,
Starting point is 00:53:39 sort of going through a, you know, a huge breakdown of it. But hopefully in the next few days we'll come on and do the deep dive on that while every part of his documentary and get your take on it, because you've been harping on this. But that separate issue being our sponsor, you're also an economist and really smart guy. As you warned, they would probably close the trade-of-hor Moose. It has been closed by the insurance companies, just by attacks on ships,
Starting point is 00:54:02 some of which have been damaged and sunk. So what's happening in the markets, obviously, the stock market's way down, gold and silver way down, but as you predicted a month ago when they drove silver down, it would just bounce back up. I believe that this is,
Starting point is 00:54:16 going to bounce away back because of all the fundamentals. So Dr. Elliott, a lot to hit here. You're with Kirk Elliott, precious metals, the largest silver and gold broker in the U.S. because you have the highest ratings of best prices and best service. KAPM.com, 4.slash, gold, 720605, 3900. And as you told folks, two weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:54:33 we believe this is a buying opportunity when they artificially drove down silver with naked shorting, and of course we were right. So this is a major buying opportunity. You know, it's interesting how I can't remember Alex ever having Kirk Elliott on and saying that it was a sell-off opportunity. They can pretend that he's a straight-up gold salesman who's just looking out for you as a customer,
Starting point is 00:54:50 but it really does feel like every time he's on, it's a buying opportunity. Strange how that works. Yeah. You can tell how stagnant the customer pool is becoming for folks like Alex and Kirk when a huge part of their marketing strategy has to be, we're not like those other scam gold businesses. Yep. They aren't getting enough new gullible eyes on their shit,
Starting point is 00:55:10 and too many people have been burned by their scams or no people who have been burned. So their advertising requires defensiveness, and that's a bad sign. And to be clear, I'm agnostic on precious metals as a thing to invest in. It seems like the sort of thing where almost everyone is scamming people, but there are probably some companies that aren't a scam. I just don't know how you'd find them. Yeah. As Alex likes to say, you can judge a tree by its fruits.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And as far as Alex's fruits are concerned with his past gold sponsors, we can say indisputably that he has no problem working for and promoting someone who's actively defrauding customers. If he could base his career on working with Midas resources, there's no reason to think that he would demand the people he work with now be above board. Yeah. So if he's advertising with them, that's a negative advertisement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yep. Yep, yep, yep. I think it's even legal because it's not a Ponzi scheme. It's not a Ponzi scheme. No. But it is legal for you to buy gold from them and for them not to buy it until maybe the price goes down a little bit and then they buy that gold
Starting point is 00:56:15 and they pocket the difference. Well, no. And that's legal. I think, you know, I think almost anything is legal with gold and silver and shit. But like, there are,
Starting point is 00:56:23 there are rules about how much gold you have to hold in reserve. Yeah. You can sell more than you have. Totally. Totally. There's all kinds of crazy shit like that. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 So like, to imagine that this guy is just like, hey, you know, I just want you to buy it for the right price. And like, I'm going to break you. Even like, no, you're not. Yeah, it is, it is like, you know, that if it's free, then you're the product kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:56:48 It needs to be updated to, they're all predating on us. They are trying to eat us all. Every little bit of us, bones even. They're killing us. Yeah. Yeah. And I think as it relates to, like, Kirk and his gold pitch, like, I don't think he's hiding that very much. He's just like, there's a war going on.
Starting point is 00:57:09 profit right and this all of this geopolitical conflict is going to help us who invest wisely during this time and it's not like you're making a big wild pie in the sky prediction so it's like the world is not having available what it needs which is oil and silver and and we get to take advantage of that incredible they need to call you now get a free consultation or free email got a call you guys need to call You just need to take action. You need to take advantage of all these people dying in this war that I'm supposed to be against. Isn't this their whole thing about why George Soros is evil? Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:48 So like, hey, do a Soros, but like on a smaller scale. Otherwise you're a bad guy. Yeah, middle class Soros. Middle class Soros. Okay. No, it is. It's they're imploring people to take advantage of global chaos in order to make money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And when you hear a pitch like that. Yeah. It makes you start to hear the things that Alex is saying in a way that's like, oh, you make more money when there's trouble. That is probably exactly true. So are you excited for there to be trouble? Probably exactly, yeah. All right, I'm about to lay out the latest developments in really this new world war we're in. And I said that over a year ago.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That was the first to say it. And now they've had the big war planners in Europe. up in Russia and China in the U.S. basically say we're in a new world war and I want to explain what this new world war is in the CIA's own documents their own war games they they call the Cold War World War three but it was a soft war a cold war a cold war is that way they called it that world war for it's already kinetic it's economic it's cyber it's cultural it's full spectrum dominance and it has not the potential in every major AI corporate,
Starting point is 00:59:12 Rang Corporation, Pentagon, war game, not the, not the potential to go nuclear, but the probability. He sounds like he's doing a movie trailer. Yeah, is he having fun with this? Yeah, because it'll sell gold.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah. Yes. Like, you hear that tone, the probability. All this, like the way he's delivering this is intentional. It's, meant to heighten these feelings that feed into his main sponsor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Yeah. So you remember that time whenever America dropped a bomb and instantly vaporized like 50,000 people. And then we're like, well, we got to do that again. And then they instantly vaporized like another 50,000 people. And then we spent the next 80 years making those instant vaporization weapons so much stronger. And now that we have reached the probability of one of those yous, you saying that means that you and I are going to watch millions of people instantly disappear. And I'm not saying
Starting point is 01:00:19 that Alex wants that, but he wants people to like be really scared about it in order to exploit the opportunity to make some money. Yeah, obviously. So I think that that sucks. It's no good. And like the end result that you're talking about. about worse than Alex ripping people off. Yeah. No. On a scale. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:42 But I mean, it's like it is so hard to really comprehend just how awful. Like, okay, so they blow up, they nuke Chicago. Let's say they nuke Chicago. Fine. You killed Chicago, but you didn't do that. You sent radiation hundreds of miles in all directions. So you've killed Illinois. You haven't just done that.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You've killed the lake. You haven't just done that. You've killed all the great lakes because they're going to be connected. Like, you have just wiped out. massive section of the world. You can't use any one of these bombs ever one time. Probably not. But we'll probably be fine.
Starting point is 01:01:14 We'll find out. Yeah. So I think that Alex obviously is against nuclear war. Probably. And I think he saw war games and he just realized that that was a good quote. Yeah, it is a good quote. A.I. models came out last week. 97% chance.
Starting point is 01:01:32 We have a nuclear war on the current trajectory. Thank God. AI sucks. I have to fight every instinct of self-preservation I've got because if you panic and run, it's like the pain induction box test in Dune, the novel, also in the film. An animal will pull its hand out of a box and it's being a massive pain, but a human can control itself if it is a human
Starting point is 01:01:56 and just cut it off and just say it doesn't matter and just understand that that's not real. And that's where we are right now. the only way to win this game is not to play and you've got all these factions that want to attack Trump just because he's Trump over the war and all the other factions want to say you're a traitor
Starting point is 01:02:24 if you don't support total war there's a major tug of war in the administration over this war or there's not also Alex seems to be forgetting about the poison needle that was to Paul's throat I was going to say the gum jabar is pretty important yeah we got a huge part of this scene in both the novel and the
Starting point is 01:02:41 We got a dune to war games move? That was fast. Yeah. That was too quick. Okay. I get, okay, whatever. Yeah. It's cute that he remembers that quote from war games.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Sure. It also doesn't mean anything. Like, let's say the only way to win the game is not to play. If that's the case, when was the first move of the game played? I get that Alex wants to sit on the fence now that Trump is going to war with Iran and he feels like nuclear war is probable. Right. But I wouldn't want to own these kinds of. of positions either, but we're only here because of moves that Alex and his people made earlier
Starting point is 01:03:17 in the game. Yep. Like, the only way to win is not to play the game does not mean quit at the last second. No. It doesn't mean like, hey, halfway through the game, realize you don't want to play the game. You did this. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You can't start the game. That's the lesson is if you've already started the game, then you have to keep, you have to do it. That's the problem with it Because you have to do it Once you start the game That's why you don't play That's why you don't play Right
Starting point is 01:03:48 So if the game has started That is no longer applicable Yes It's useless The game being Unwinnable Is why you don't start Exactly but then you started it
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah you started it So now we're all gonna die You just didn't want to play Like the fourth turn Yeah you don't get to be like Ah no I'm If you run out of mana You lose in Magic the Gatherer
Starting point is 01:04:10 You don't get to be like We'll start over later. Yeah, this stinks. Yeah. Fuck you. Yep. So anyway, I think Alex should be far more negative about Trump. You think.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Based on the fact that we're in a planetary crisis. Sure. And in this next clip, Alex explains that basically Trump is gambling with our lives. Yeah, that sounds right. I'm not against gambling. I'm not a gambler myself. You know, actual gambler like roulette, you know, poker, blackjack slot machines. But, I mean, I've gone and done it to see what it's like here and there. I probably gamble like 10, times in Vegas, a few times on cruise ships. You spend a little bit of money. You decide I'm going to spend this much. You go do it.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And then a few times, you know, my wife's winning, or I start winning. And I'm like, you know what? I just won $2,000 above what I'm done. But you study degenerate gamblers, it's when they're down that they double down and go mortgage the house or whatever. And it's just, yeah. And you don't gamble with other people's lives. And I know we put Trump.
Starting point is 01:05:16 in to be bold but he said they all said jaddy vans said Tulsi gabbert said they all said we don't want regime change in iran and vote for us and we won't do that and then they did it so it's just one more thing broken and it is israel that's driving the bus here nick pointess joins us in about 20 minutes from now oh god for an in-depth dive on this great good good stuff good good booking I think that, yeah, I mean, you know, you got lied to. Yep. These people lied to you and they are abusing the power that you entrusted upon them. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Now, the difference between that and other politicians who don't live up to their campaign promises is that Alex's psychic. God talks to him and tells him what to do. Yeah. Yeah. So that's silly. It's silly for these people not to live up to their promises. because Alex should have fucking known that from the jump. Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people historically
Starting point is 01:06:32 who have been given visions and messages from God whenever they were in their darkest times and it looked like the messages weren't shaking outright, God would be like, hey, don't worry about it. This sucks right now, but we're getting to a better place in the end. It feels like Alex's God is kind of more like, Neener, Neener, Neener, I trick to a trick to. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I'm the devil. I'm going to tell you the wrong time at night. It's 3.34. So, yeah, look, I mean, like, Trump is gambling with our lives. That's great. The degenerate gambler. Yep. Good.
Starting point is 01:07:08 War is bad. But can you imagine if Kamala Harris was president? And now you got Trump out, you know, defending Israel. Oh, they didn't make me do it. I made the decision. Yeah. Which only makes it worse, Trump. And look, Trump also knows it's a message of Russia and China.
Starting point is 01:07:25 he's been sold the middleist tried to kill him with the one the cases we looked at it was a setup where they hired lunatics to do it the CIA did it came out I mean I get why Trump did this I don't defend it but I you're defending it and I'm glad he's in there and on Kamala he's a good guy he's a good guy why what I'm not defending him he's a good guy wait can you imagine if Harris is in there okay okay so so then like okay does body count matter you know like if if Trump you're not If Trump kills 2 million people, does that mean he's finally worse than Kamala Harris? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah, that's what I thought. No, I don't think so either. I just think we're treating to these kinds of arguments are like they're showing his ass. I mean, that's what, God damn it, that's what makes it fun to be Alex. Yes. It's to hate details like shit. Because when you have to deal with like, oh, it's complex or all their details, those are all just reasons to not do what you. know is very simple. You said, oh, these fuckers told us they weren't going to do something,
Starting point is 01:08:31 then they did it. Well, guess what? That means now they have to lose. That's how it works. It's that simple. And yet somehow, if you keep talking, you'll get to, I still think he's better than Harris. And let's take this another step further. If they lied to you about something on this magnitude, why the fuck are you believing them about anything else? Why would you believe them about anything? Yeah. Why? Why would you think, oh, well, I'm sure we'll need to vote on that. If there are lies that involve gambling with our lives in a way that's this extreme. Yep. Then like what everything.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Like Trump popularized like this is fake news. Maybe the news was real. Like why should you, you fucking idiots. Yep. Yep. Anyway, Trump is saying, hey, I did this. Sure. Because he did.
Starting point is 01:09:22 And then Rubio is kind of saying the opposite. Right. And it's weird because they're both perfect human beings. One's got to be lying, right? Marco Rubio is very professional. He's been a neocob, and now that he's serving America first, at least under Trump, he's very capable man. You can't say he's not, very intelligent, very well-spoken, very, a lot of poise. Jesus Christ. And I hope he's on our team. But I wouldn't turn my back on him if you know what I mean. But he came out and then said, no, Israel decided to strike. And then without our
Starting point is 01:09:55 authorization, but we knew they were going to hit us right after that because we gave them the weapons, so we went ahead and we joined in. And what he was doing was saying, hey, we didn't start this. It's Israel. And we already know that. So that's a big deal. And we got drug into this. And now there's major heat over that. So Trump's doing damage control because Trump always wants to be in charge. But I, okay, I wasn't going to release this information. Oh, fuck. me. Well, by showtime, I wasn't sure. Because I need to think about things that are big like this. It's got a downside, but I think the right thing to do is tell you.
Starting point is 01:10:50 So I'm going to tell you what I've gotten from Winehouse sources at the start of the next hour when I bring Nick Fintess on. Ooh, exciting. Alex is going to make something up. Great. For fun. Yeah. I can't wait. I'm really grateful that he's going to take some time to think about what he's making up for us, though. He doesn't. He actually just immediately says what his big story is. Never mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I take it back. No, that pause that we heard. Yeah. That was where he was thinking up, what, what bullshit do I have? What do I got in my rolodex of bullshit right now? And essentially it's just that Trump got played. And like, that's also like I don't understand why you would. Like again, even so the word manipulate, right?
Starting point is 01:11:30 If you're, if you're aware of it. But here's the other thing. If you're not aware of it, that still makes you unfit to be a leader. If you are manipulatable. that is a weakness that will be exploited. We can't have you as the leader. You'll be exploited. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:48 If you're manipulable enough to the point that Alex needs him to be in order to get off the hook for taking action in this way. Right. Then he is... You're also disqualified. There's no way you can be trusted with power. No amount of whether or not this is okay in a moral or individual sense will cover for the fact that we cannot have this as a leader.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah, it's unsafe. Yeah. But, yeah, Alex is going to try and play that card. Well, that he just got played. Sure. So see what I'm getting at here? Is it, let's say you love Israel. Okay, you think it's great, all right?
Starting point is 01:12:26 And you love Netanyan. And you think, you know, he's the best things in sliced bread. It's not right to have a foreign government and foreign power that we've allied with, that we give money and weapons to. that has pissed off the Pentagon so bad that they came out and said, not just them, but the Pentagon as well, no, Israel hit them before we knew, so we had to go in. And Marco Rubio said it multiple times.
Starting point is 01:12:55 And then the damage control, oh, no, the Israel lobby, that's not right. And Trump goes, yeah, that's not right. I'm the boss. I made the call. Israel just punked our president. And how does this affect J.D. Vance? very smart stood up for me
Starting point is 01:13:21 when he wasn't even a senator running for office saying it was wrong I was the platform and nobody else would I've met him I've talked to him very smart he would make a great president over Gavin Newsom
Starting point is 01:13:31 and that's really what we should be thinking about is the midterms and the presidential election and it starts in like a year and a half this isn't gonna fly man no one cares this is sad
Starting point is 01:13:41 let's pretend that everything Alex just said is legit why should he have any interest in defending Trump He sounds like a really bad, vain leader who just lies to the public when his image is a big strong boy is in question. Good luck to Alex trying to get his insane base to warm up to J.D. Vance, though. That's a doomed project. And if Alex had any sense and was able to make his own decisions, the only person he should be supporting is Thomas Massey.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Yeah. Like, that's his new Ron Paul. He really should be doing that. It's fucking insane that he's not. I find myself. in a same situation that I've been in so often, which is whenever somebody tells me that we need to really fucking forget what's happening right now
Starting point is 01:14:26 and focus on the midterms, I know I'm being fucked. I know I'm being fucked. Yeah, I don't know. I just, I think you have Alex being a clown. This is nonsense. He should be free of this. This should be the freedom.
Starting point is 01:14:47 that you get right now whenever everybody else is like, oh, I'm trying to figure out why I voted for Trump now that he's doing stuff that I don't. You get to be like, hey, guess what? Fuck everybody and then move on. If he had kept some of his like moves, his old moves set. Yeah. They can't.
Starting point is 01:15:09 You know what? Fuck this guy. Fuck me. Fuck everybody. Let's go. Let's do something else. Massey. You're great.
Starting point is 01:15:16 We'll never look back. Let's never analyze anything that happened before now. But let's just say fuck everybody and then move forward. Yeah, we have a blueprint with Ron Paul, how we can market you to in-betweeners and some people on the left. Yep. Let's fucking do this thing. Let's make a lot of money. Everybody would love a reboot.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Everybody would love it if he just rebooted Info Wars and was like, surprise, none of that stuff happened. Yeah. I mean, the reason that Ron Paul ever got like widespread popularity is because of opposition to the Iraq war that, transcended party lines. Yep. Now you have Thomas Massey, who has transcended party lines with his dogged insistence on releasing the Epstein files, and probably will be a bit against the war in Iran. He's your Ron Paul, too.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yep. Come on, man. Anyway, Alex is pissed off that anti-Semites are usually dumb. Wow, I mean, he's got a lot of evidence. True. Yeah. True. So he's, he, I think it's partially a little bit of a preemptive, like, I'm about
Starting point is 01:16:24 to talk to Nick Fuentes. Yeah. I got to complain about the dumb. Right, right, right. These are the bad ones. And it is the low IQ attacks on Jews in Israel, because Jews aren't one month with the group, that fosters much of this because the average Jew is an evil or corrupt or involved with some evil thing.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And then when they see all this craziness and all this wild-eyedness, the social engineers over in Israel, use that to get Jews, a lot of which are wealthy, to empower the Jewish globalist mind control mafia, whatever you want to call it. Something that's not that.
Starting point is 01:17:01 For control. Whereas I just want a big tent for everybody. I mean, I absolutely want to recruit all the Jews over to populism and freedom and team humanity. I mean, I listen to Bob Dylan's songs and read his writings and agree with 99% of it, not a people that know Bob Dylan behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Wait, wait, wait, Wait, wait, wait. And, you know, he becomes a Christian in the 80s. He becomes an anti-globalist in the early 90s. Then he decides it's all bull, becomes a liberal again, now becomes a conservative again. You know, it's like, I want the Jews on Team Humanity. And there's a bunch that are. So this is a, I get, I, hmm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:48 This is all, hmm. He's making, he's making a lot of sense. Do I understand him using Bob Dylan in the way that I think he is? I'm not sure. How do you think? I mean, I guess as like a ideal Jew? Maybe. That's never a good place to be when you're like, let me pick my favorite Jew.
Starting point is 01:18:20 It's not. But also, like, yeah, do you know people who know him? You used to be friends with Willie Nelson. Yeah, great. Yep, yep, yep, yep. They're only highlighting how much Willie does not like you anymore. Not anymore. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:18:33 I don't think that Bob Dylan would be super into Alex. I think in the 90s, 2000s, maybe. Sure. The fake image that Alex put on back then Bob Dylan might have had some interest in. Yeah, it was fun for people to adopt. Yeah, there was a contrarian, nist, anti-establishment kind of feeling that he had. Yeah. But, like, not now.
Starting point is 01:18:54 No, no. That illusion is going. No, it's gone for all. I mean, anybody who makes... Like, I guess that's part of why we're so fucked is like, anybody who makes stuff now is like, ah, shit, these people are crazy. Like, as a function of making things, of just being part of the creative human spirit, you go, well, we can't be part of this Trump shit.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah. Like, I guess there was other times where you could be like, maybe we have differences, but we can still create stuff because I also don't like the capital gains tax or something like that. But now it's pretty obvious. That guy's a Nazi. Yeah, there's Kid Rock.
Starting point is 01:19:36 That's it. That's what you've got. James Woods. And even he's kind of like, I mean, I am a Nazi. That's why I support this guy. Yeah. It's a disaster. But the answer for the world and for everyone, especially those Jews, is Jesus.
Starting point is 01:19:53 and Christian. I feel like it's not. We have the answer. We have the plan. And sociologically, I can look at that and say, the only way to beat the Antichrist system is true, decentralized, personal relationship with Jesus Christ, not through the mega church, not through the Vatican,
Starting point is 01:20:14 individual relationship with Christ. And what is the globalist want to shut down? Small churches, individuals. They hate real Christianity. The Muslims do everybody. Because it's the answer. God gave us the plan. It's real.
Starting point is 01:20:31 And now as I've gotten older, and I've literally given prophetic understanding. Wow. Of the future. Pretty present. I realize God gives us free will, but he cheats. And I don't mean that in the cheat cheat-cheat way, but he puts us into a combat zone
Starting point is 01:20:47 and gives us a boot camp and an instruction manual and tells us the rules. Like a video game, you know, you can have the, you know, you can have the cheat file on how to be invincible. It was crazy as God puts us in here and goes, look, I gave me free will, but here's the cheat file. And we just, ah, listen to what you say, including myself, because I always catch myself, I've got to be strong. I've got to beat the new world order. But when I just lay back and go, no, you got to do it, tell me what to do.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And it's just like, and then everything is just calm victory. It's just like, so why do I fight against that? That question has a very easy answer. and it's because Alex doesn't believe in his own religious shit, or else he would listen. If you believe that God's given you a cheat code to get around free will and all this shit where you've turned life into a video game
Starting point is 01:21:35 and that God is the one giving you these commands, you're going to listen to him. You would think. That's why delusional people act on their delusions because they believe in them. Yeah. Alex doesn't listen to God because all of this shit he's talking is fake.
Starting point is 01:21:51 This is all fucking bullshit. Yeah. His prophetic dreams are. his own desire to be interesting on a radio show. And he fucking knows that. Yeah. This is, shut the fuck up. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm salty. He's fucking, if you know even a little bit of the future, we can't be here. Mm-hmm. Yeah. If you know a little bit. When you're on a show where the elephant in the room is that your chosen leader bombed Iran and. probably started another Iraq war.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Yeah. You can't be like, ha ha, I have visions of the future. Nope. You got to let that go. You got to at the least, at very least for the, for a while. Don't remind us of how you cheer led us here. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Put it on the back burner. You're not a psychic for at least a year or two. Yeah. Just put that back there, be like, I got bamboozled like everybody else, you know? You got to get into the gritty reality. Yeah. Of Thomas Massey and various things that he's doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Real granular. You need to do that man begins. Go back to the Second Amendment. Yeah. Like this is... Exactly. Forced Congress to reassert the Second Amendment. Please.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Great. Love it. So this psychic bullshit. Come on, man. That's just so sad. It's so sad. Don't be psychic whenever you're in the middle of failing. Be a psychic when you're a winner, you know?
Starting point is 01:23:15 That's when you knew what was going to happen. Yeah. Alex's game only works retroactively, which is why when he's wrong, it feels so silly. Yeah. Anyway, those Jewish people in the world, sure. They need to accept Jesus, apparently.
Starting point is 01:23:31 See, Alex's big tent. He's a big tent kind guy. Well, I mean, it is a very big tent, but there's a very strict admissions process. You bet. It's beyond pride. It's a, it's, I'm still in the flesh, so I'm struggling, and I feel like I'm being under attack,
Starting point is 01:23:47 so I have to fight from the flesh. And the Jews and everybody else just have to, just like I need to, you need to turn loose of the flesh. I know it's scary at the moment you do it and just embrace death of the old self. Sure.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Just embrace death and you'll be reborn. Just say, I can't do it. It's true. Just try it, Jews. Try it, Jews. Just say, Jesus, show me if you're just try it, Jews. I love you, Jesus. Just show me. What do you have to lose, Jews?
Starting point is 01:24:14 Oh, some of you're real scared, aren't you? Because you've got a real potential that the devil doesn't want you to use. So, hey, if it's Jesus is in real, he's a fraud. all this stuff. You're not betraying your people. You're fulfilling your people. Ask Christ ask Christ, ask the Holy Spirit into your soul. Accept Jesus Christ. Take Christ hand. He's at the door. Open the door. What do you got to lose if this is all crap? But you know, don't you?
Starting point is 01:24:46 Fulfill your destiny. Call on Jesus Christ. Save the world. Bring forth the Messiah. What? What the fuck was that? I am a fan of weird Paul Simon, like, what you got to lose, Jews? I dare you. I dare you to adopt my religion. Oh, my God. Think about it, Jews.
Starting point is 01:25:15 Come on, you're just talking to just everyone. I do also enjoy, like, going out to break with a rambling. We got to bring more. back the Messiah. Embrace your destiny. Bring back the Messiah. The seventh seal is opening. This show is fucking insane.
Starting point is 01:25:35 He's, I just don't, I don't even know how to categorize it anymore. It's not, it's not, there's nothing attached to reality about it. It's, it's something of a variety of show. Yep. But there's no band. There should be, he should have a band. Yeah. If we're doing a reboot of Info Wars, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:54 reboot 2028, right? Thomas Massey is our chosen guy. He's our Ron Paul. We have Owen Schroier in a go-go dancing cage, and we've got a band. We got to have a band. No, because I think Owen Schroier could be like the Glenn Beck. Sure. Alex could turn him into like a useful nemesis or something like that.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Maybe. If we're going to reboot everything. Yeah. But it would be nice to have him in a cage. Yeah, that's true. So you were saying that this is a variety show. Yes. You know, back in the days, they'd have, you know, weird animals that would be brought on to the tonight show.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Carson would bring a zookeeper on and they'd have a monkey or some shit. Fantastic. And I think that Alex is kind of similar in a way. But with, like, if Johnny Carson tried to flex on those animals, you know, he had that congressman on earlier. Yeah. And he treated him in such a way as to, like, figure out where they've. were yeah yeah yeah um and now he has nick fuentes on and his behavior is quite different oh yeah in fact it seems like he needs to preemptively stop people from complaining about the fact that he's on
Starting point is 01:27:08 oh my god no point is our guess and again people say this guy's pro white this guys whatever we have major universities saying no whites allowed we have whites of the devil must be exterminated in New York Times. This is the natural response to that. So I don't want to hear a bunch of stuff. I always want to say that as a premise right of front. So Nick, you told us what was coming two years ago. You've been proven right.
Starting point is 01:27:34 So he's psychic. And I don't want to hear it when people correctly call him a white supremacist. Wow. Wow. Okay. All right. Sure, he's a white nationalist, but he was right about everything a couple years ago. We've got him back on Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 01:27:49 All right. Here we go. Pretending that major universities. you're saying no white people and the New York Times wants to kill all white people in order to justify his position. Just like
Starting point is 01:28:00 it is amazing that there is no governing body for saying absolutely bad shit. But like you know what I mean? Like if there was, if I was going to create a god, it would just be somebody who like flicked you on the head
Starting point is 01:28:14 whenever you said something insane. Like, there are universities that don't even allow white people. Fuck you. Fuck you. There should be a noise. There should be a bell. There should be something.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Well, Alex even said major. Right? University. Like something should stop you. So Nick, obviously, is against the war. Sure. He has been against Trump for a while. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:34 He turned before the 2024 election. And one of the main reasons was he said that Trump was probably going to go to war with Iran. So him being there makes Alex look kind of stupid. You never see the end of the Iran war. It's always, this is just the latest climax. This is just the latest ceiling of hostilities between the U.S. Iran and Israel, which have been ongoing for decades. And I don't think this is the end of it. So I don't know that I just surprised.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Do you think Trump even, I'm not trying to give him a get out of y'all free car, but I actually know what your answer is, I know you're smart. Do you think Trump even understands this? An amateur is, no. No, I don't think so. And I think he just overestimates his abilities. I'm sure that in part, maybe they did Venezuela to build up his confidence. I don't know if I've ever heard Alex do that kind of like, please answer this way and then actually say what he needs the answer to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:30 That felt sad. That is, that is like, you know, like that whenever you're leaving information out, it's because you feel like if somebody had that information, they would make a choice that you did not want them to make. So by leaving that information out, that person will make a choice that you did want them to make. Right. This is the opposite. This is when you're like, please, I am a baby. Please give me what I want or I will cry and be sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:00 It's two-pronged too. You need to answer this way. And then also, you're giving it away when you're like, I'm not trying to get Trump off the hook here. But also he's dumb, right? Can we just? You're clearly doing this in order to make a justification for Trump. I don't understand why you would want this justification. That's the thing that drives me absolutely insane.
Starting point is 01:30:21 I would prefer a competent insane leader nut job than somebody where I'm like, well, it's okay. He's fucking stupid. You ask an interesting question, and I can't answer that, but you should direct that to Roger. I don't know why Alex is saying this shit. It makes no sense. Yeah. But that idea that Alex needs to be like, he's done. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:46 That's what their conversation is about. It's just Alex kind of begging Nick to be like, Trump can be saved, right? Right. Again. Exactly like, yeah, pass the reviews. I want you to quantify before we go to these clips and unpack this. And what you think is coming next?
Starting point is 01:31:03 What you predict next? How we can stop this? We've already said we can't. We still got to try. I think you're right. I'm about to evacuate to South America or something. So all the globalists are going. but here's my question looking at all of this is there is there is there I want you to think about this
Starting point is 01:31:28 I already said no what could we do a peaceful demonstration I don't know hang something on our doorway or we all liberals would say mass strike I don't want to join them in that because you're with Islam because that might work way to get Trump off this destructive course we're on and it maybe describe to people because you predict of the future where this course takes us. Nick Pointess. Well, as I said, I'm very pessimistic about that. And the reason being is because when you look at the numbers, it's not popular. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:59 He makes a fine point, which is why would protest matter? Yeah. People are already against this. Yep. And Trump's doing it anyway. So this is just the character of their interaction. It's Alex is a loser. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:14 And he's having an interview with someone. that he has to act like a loser in front of. Please say it's okay for me to continue deporting Trump. Right? Please. No. He's that a kid telling him no. No.
Starting point is 01:32:26 He's a kid trying to parent him. No. Has nobody ever told you no before? Oh my God. That's what happened. Nobody's ever told you no before. You're just an insane person who's never been told no before and you got this weird show because your dad was a dentist who bought advertising whenever you were fucking nine.
Starting point is 01:32:44 And you became very used. to a fraud gold guy. Yeah. And then Ron Paul needed you. And then you got seduced by a fascist. Yep. Anyway, like he, you know, Nick is, I don't know, I don't know, like, if I would do anything different in his position, but it's kind of embarrassing him being on Info Wars now.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Yeah. This looks bad for him. Yeah, I would stay away. I would put, there's a lot of stuff that is like, I, but maybe this is just because we live in the present, right? and it doesn't exist for people the way that it used to. But a lot of problems can be solved if you go away for a while. And then people will be happy when you come back.
Starting point is 01:33:25 People don't go away anymore. They're just back on social media the next day. It's how you successfully change a gimmick in the old wrestling days. You got to go away. You got to go away. Yeah. And I think that both of these interviews that Alex has, both this and with the congressperson,
Starting point is 01:33:43 are just, they are bad and they're embarrassing for the other party because Alex is acting in a way that a normal person should be like, this is fucking stupid. Why are we having this conversation? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the congressman is, he's engaged in this conversation in a way that Alex is steering and he's controlling. Yeah. Nick is engaged in this conversation in a way that Nick is controlling. Yep.
Starting point is 01:34:11 it's just more evidence of Alex supplicating you know it is it is more evidence of Alex going to the fucking white nationalist pyramid and hoping that the pharaoh will help him grow crops and shit yep and so we get to you know really the the point and that is that like Alex has to recognize and it's clear that he's feeling that there's a moral imperative to be against Trump yeah you have to and when he sits down with a little baby Nazi. He can't really argue that. We're being sold on a Forever War right now. So here's my problem. I don't want the Democrats open to the border. I like Trump killing the carbon tax.
Starting point is 01:34:56 I like to know tax on tips. There's all this good stuff. But rapidly, like, I can like ignore some stuff and hold my nose with Trump. But quickly, I mean, by the hour, I morally cannot be part of this. You're already there saying vote Democrat. I get you're saying that as a carrot of the stick.
Starting point is 01:35:12 But, I mean, what the hell's going on here? I think you have to. I think you have to vote Democrat in 26, and I'll tell you why. I mean, we're being told always that the Republicans are the lesser of two evils, that, you know, they're going to be marginally better than the Democrats. Look at all of the broken promises. Epstein files, that's huge. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:35:36 And let's be honest, they tried to cover it up. It's not like they fumbled that. It's not like they made a mistake. They engaged in an active cover-up and they failed only because of a revolt within their own party. And now Marjorie Green is an outcast. She was like the MAGA Congresswoman. She was like the one in Congress who came after Trump won the election. She's an outcast because she led the coup to get the Epstein files released.
Starting point is 01:36:02 That's a big one. It's big. That looks bad. Hey, buddy. Welcome to political disaffection. I think that Nick is obviously, you know, his politics and his ideas are incompatible with a decent society. Sure. But he has reached basically the endpoint of where all of this should go for people who are in like Alex's camp.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Yep. Which is like, okay, the fucking outsider renegade candidate is just another illusion. Yep. You idiots? Yep. And so he just wants people to vote them now in the midterms. Yeah. I mean, it is like the difference between a functioning bear trap and not, right?
Starting point is 01:36:52 If you step on the pressure, the bear trap snaps, right? That's how you know it's a working bear trap. If it doesn't, if you can step on it, then it's meaningless. It's just more ground, right? Like if you can just step on Alex's face and he'll still be like, how do we save him? He's just stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Then you're a shitty trap, right? Yeah. Like an hour ago, Alex was like, he's a good guy. Yep. He's covering up Epstein stuff, but it's no big deal. He's not really involved. Like, what Nick is actually saying isn't really that different than what Alex is saying. But Nick has a point.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Alex is trying to obscure and like, hey, look, I don't want the, I don't want the Democrats to be. Isn't it great that Harris isn't in office? Right. Well, he wants to make you feel like he's on your team. While at the same time, at the end of this, nothing happens. Whereas with Fuentes, at the end of it, it is we need to get Trump out of office. That is the idea. But it's not get Trump out of office for a good reason.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Right. It's to make things worse. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's a critical, it's a critical thing to understand about, about his position. Yep. And I think that a lot of people are, you know, making some dunks and maybe talking about Nick saying that people should vote Democrat. And I think they should just ignore it.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Yep. Thousands of American Israeli airstrikes destroying Iran's military. Here's how I feel about it. If you will tolerate that, you will tolerate anything. Like at what point do you say no? What point do you say there's no excuses? People say, well, if there's boots on the ground, boots on the ground, dude, they're dropping bombs everywhere. And it's in Iran. So for me, I said, that's the last straw. I'm out. And you know me. I'm not, I'm the furthest thing from a Democrat. I'm far right. I'm not left wing or even liberal. I don't consider myself even a center liberal or a right liberal. But let's talk about that Democrats get in. Isn't that an accelerationist? No, I think that The opposite.
Starting point is 01:39:05 It's giving us time to regroup. I would characterize it as corrective. And it's sending a message to the GOP before the big one, which is 28. Yeah, you're saying the only leverage we've got is the wake-up call. Right. Yeah. So I think that anybody, I don't know who would, but anybody who thinks like, hey, Nick wants to vote Democrat, there's some possibility of alliance or there's some possibility of like, It's the same mentality that like the Harris campaign would engage in with Dick Cheney endorsing them.
Starting point is 01:39:38 You bet. You should ignore this. Nope. If you want to accept it in any way, you need to accept it in a like, fuck you way. There needs to be a like, okay, we're the Harris campaign. Dick Cheney wants to support us. We're going to insult him. If we get elected, thank you for yourself.
Starting point is 01:40:00 support. If we get elected, I will put you in jail for the rest of your life, for the rest of your life. Yeah. If you want to vote for Democrat, right. Enjoy your way of sticking it to the GOP in order to make them more extreme. Good. Who cares? Right. It does not affect, it is not a meaningful political thing. No. This is strategic. Right. Well, I mean, it's not as if we've ever seen in the past. Uh, the Republicans reject somebody and then vote for Democrats and then the Democrats go, we have to get more Republicans and then they move further to the right. And then in response, the Republicans go further in the right. And then, wait, wait, wait, that's how we got here. Hmm. Huh. The only way really to fight back, I think, against this kind of
Starting point is 01:40:50 mentality. And I think it, I think it would be a fool's errand to do because I think it would blow up in your face. Yeah. But if the Nazis are going to go left and vote Democrat, then the left should go very left. Yeah. Make, obviously. Make them vote for candidates that believe in things that are like impossible to get through otherwise.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Yep. Vote for people who would give Medicare for all. Yep. Like these kinds of things, like you have to force their hand then. Right. If they're in a position where they're openly talking about sticking it to the GOP with a corrective vote in the midterms, then you need to punish them. Now, here is my counterpoint based on the evidence we have. What if instead you fondle their balls so they feel good about themselves?
Starting point is 01:41:42 Don't stick your dick in that hole. Despite the fact that they have been horribly abusive to you forever. And then we'll continue to do so once you stop fondling their balls. That's a bad strategy. It is a bad strategy. But while I'm on the subject, mine was bad, too. I don't think it would work. And I think it would have more of a tendency to blow up in your face than not.
Starting point is 01:42:01 And any strategy that would rely on their support is... No good. No, it's the stupidest... No good. Stupidest thing in the world. But I think it's cute. I think it's cute that Nick is saying this to Alex's face. Well, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:18 The irony of all of it is that the irony of all of this. all of this is that right now Nick Fuentes is saying in 1991 we need to vote for Clinton that is exactly what is happening well midterms see that's that's whichever whichever you like he is very set and he does express this yeah voting that way in the midterms is in order to make sure there's a good candidate in 2028 sure sure sure so it is all in service of like course correcting for the extreme right. Right. They've gotten off track with Trump and all this bullshit.
Starting point is 01:42:57 So like there is no, there, he would not say this probably. Well, no, because he did say it in 2024. Yeah. He said don't vote for Trump. Yeah, absolutely. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:10 And then, you know, Clinton's stuff will lead to back here. Sure. Yep. It's a great cycle. It's a good cycle. So, you know, you have Marco Rubio coming out and saying that Israel, forced our hand. Sure. And then you got Trump coming out and saying, uh, I forced Israel's hand. Right. And, uh, Nick is annoyed that, uh, Trump is just lying.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Hmm. So if anything, I might have forced Israel's hand. But Israel was ready and we were ready and we've, we've had a very, very powerful impact. Well, since the 80s, Iran has not launched an attack first. Every attack has been a response, a retaliatory attack. I mean, that is literally pulled out of Trump's butt, Nick. It is. And that's exactly what happened last year, too. Israel came in and Trump said, oh, we knew they were doing it. They told us and the whole negotiations were a ruse. It's almost just childish to see Trump in the White House. Almost. Actually, I forced Israel to do it. This is when Trump just becomes grating. You know, all those things we thought were charming 10 years ago or endearing or funny. Now it's just grating and insufferable. He's obviously full of it. There's nothing true about that at all. This idea that, like you say, that Iran was about to attack. us, really? See, it used to be fun how Trump would pursue his own interest to the point of directly
Starting point is 01:44:28 lying to everyone's face shamelessly, but now I don't like it when he's doing it. I don't like why he's doing it anymore, so it's grading. That's all Nick's saying. Like, we used to love his lies and the brazenness of his lies. Yep. And now it sucks. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:44:47 I mean, you know, sometimes, sometimes there's like this. feeling of an I told you so in a like I have the experience of this you haven't had the experience it makes sense for you to not know this I am telling you so but not in a like douchebaggy way in just like a see what experience counts for right and I don't have that with him I will fight him to my dying day with every breath I have
Starting point is 01:45:16 I hate him so fucking much and so this idea of him being like blah no fuck off Fuck you. Yeah. Fuck you. You fucking asshole. This was predictable. We told you this was going to happen.
Starting point is 01:45:29 You knew it was going to happen. Fuck you. Yeah. I think the correct response to Nick being like vote damn is the, I'll punch you still. Yeah. I'll fight you to the death right now. Right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Vote for anybody. Whatever you believe in isn't political. And trying to make this argument within the political structure and framework is you're trying to hurt and kill a lot of people. And great. Yeah, this is not a ballot issue. No. No.
Starting point is 01:45:59 So I think one of the things that makes it even more difficult is that, like, Alex is a loser. He is just acting like a total loser raising the white flag to Nick. You've been righter than me on this. And I'm not always right. I'm right about 90% of the time. I've been very honest. So I'm going to, I'm going to now me a copier. because when I'm wrong, I'm going to say it publicly.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I needed Trump to be real. And so much good stuff, the carbon tax getting out of it, I can't go for an hour. And it's still better than that, but you can't have Western or two evils. I have the Democrats trying to put me in prison. I just got subpoenaed again to defend. When I got Arctic Frost,
Starting point is 01:46:39 I got to go to Congress and provide my documents because you're going after, you know, Jack Smith. So the Democrats are trying to put me in prison. They run show trials on HBO. So obviously, it's not going to be paid off by Trump. I've been persecuted for supporting him. So I want to now pay out on this. I want to save the country, secure the border, find the missing kids.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I want to believe. But I'm not an occult. I'm not delusional. So I was like, I'm critical. I'm critical. This is overall good. But I, you know, and now I'm just like, now I'm having to think of the off-ram. Nick, we've talked of this privately.
Starting point is 01:47:11 You know, you're targeted too. They're going to kill your house. This is where your name's Nick J. Fointess. I'm Alex E. Jones. where we're real people, we're under attack. So we're in the real world. You do what you think's right. I do what I think's right.
Starting point is 01:47:22 You're not paid by people. I'm not just our fans. So to me, I needed Trump as my lifeboat may not be perfect, but it's the lifeboat I've got. And I'm watching it sync by its own doing. And so this is horrifying. And so, but I can't sign on the covering of Pepsi. And I can't sign on to World War III.
Starting point is 01:47:43 And so that's why I tried to promote the optimism, because I fucking need this, man. That feels like one of the realist moments on Alex's show in a very long time. Yeah. I fucking needed this. Yep. I pretended everything was good and I liked this and I acted like there was optimism because I fucking needed this. Nick, you baby Nazi, you're right.
Starting point is 01:48:05 I was wrong about this and fuck, it sucks. Now, I don't think this means anything. Nope. I think he'll go back to being like, aren't you glad Kamala's not in office tomorrow? But this is a real moment of this was about my feelings. Acknowledging that he needed it, especially in that tone. That's different. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:27 That is different. He fake cries a lot. There was a feeling of almost like he was going to cry there that felt real. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was about himself. Don't expect the person had an intervention not to try and escape. But if you hear that tone of voice, it's going to go back to the same as it was tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:48:44 but there's something there. It's having an experience. Yep. I needed this shit to be real, so I acted like it was real. And it is now clearly fake. And what the fuck? What do I do? Where's my off ramp?
Starting point is 01:48:57 There isn't one. You don't get an off ramp. No. You committed your name, your treasure, your blood, all of this stuff to pretending that Trump was a good life raft. You sink. Yep. Good luck.
Starting point is 01:49:12 Done. If he goes off the air on the seven, like he's claimed is going to yeah if that happens see yeah yeah like you this is a that would be a great last image of alex i needed this i needed this fuck you well you got what you deserved i guess yeah but not even that you got you got worse because you deserve fucking horrifying shit no i well yes it deserves more immediate negatives yeah but i think there's got to be something that's really hard, really hard to deal with. For someone who has as much narcissism and pride as him.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Yeah. To know that you have supplicated yourself in this way to a child. Yeah. To a bigot child. Who you know is a bigot. Yeah. Yeah. I don't like watch.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Listen, I'm fine with everybody's kinks. But I don't like having it out in public without my awareness or consent. You know what I'm saying? Like watching this. feels like some sort of Dom thing that I didn't, I didn't like, hey, what's everybody you doing? Oh! But I don't even think Nick wanted it. No.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I think Alex is just going through it. He's just there. Yeah. I don't. Ugh. So we have one last clip. Yeah. And it's Alex continuing this feeling that he's in.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Yeah. And it reminded me a lot of earlier times when he would have Rappaport on, John Rappaport. Yep. And he would need Rappaport to console him. Yes. There would be times when he would be like, John, John, outbate. And I feel like. I feel like now that's what he's trying to get from there.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Oh, my God. And that's funny. It's sad to see something you fought blood for die. Yeah, and, you know, that's my whole adult life. I know that's a huge part of your life also. And now we're witnessing. It's totally unraveling. It's an utter and complete betrayal.
Starting point is 01:51:10 It's heartbreaking in many ways. And when I try to salvage it with people, I get attacked. as a liberal, when these people doing that, don't even, can't even find Iran on a fucking map. Yeah, well, what's called for is for us to be sober-minded about the entire thing. You know, because there's a lot of Trump a haters. I've been a realist the whole time, but was hoping, and now I'm just not even hoping.
Starting point is 01:51:34 I'm just going to be a realist. Yeah, I mean, and really, it's okay to have hope. I mean, we hope for a better future, but we got to be brutally honest about what this administration has be calm. Jesus, man. Nick, make me feel better.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Jeez. I was dumb to be optimistic. No, hope is okay, Alex. Hope is okay. You're fine. You're good. If I am, if I'm at a playground next week, and I'm just like crying, asking a six-year-old to console me, that's about where I feel like we're at on this show right now.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Very much. Very much. And the six- You're so wise. And the six-year-old is a racist and hates you. Yep. And thinks you work for the Jews. Yep.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Yep. That's a rough six-year-old. It's tough times out there. Is only consoling you on the schoolyard because there's something that they can gain candy out of it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, absolutely. They know that you have a big candy supply. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:52:35 It's a double Halloween out here. Yeah. So I think Alex is in trouble. I think obviously there's the ticking clock of the shopping. which we don't know if that's going to be his last day on air or not could be that's what he said that's what he said i don't necessarily think it's going to come and go we'll see what happens who knows um but also just like he is as he put it at the beginning of the show he's in deep shit yep like this he's fucking needed this he needed this to go right and jump has done literally
Starting point is 01:53:04 everything wrong yep um and i don't really see a way out but i also don't see him even taking any off ramp. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it looks like he's, it looks like there's no bottom. It looks like there's no way for him to, uh, have like a red line. It looks like he's just going to keep walking forward into the ocean. Trump put his dick in a hole and a rattler bit it. Yeah. That's not, if that's not over, then I don't know. I, if, if I, okay, now let me throw this out there. because this, I think, should be our new 2028 question. All right? Trump, the nameless guy who's got a rattlesnake bite on his dick.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Who's better? I think you have to go rattlesnake guy. You got to go rattlesnake dick. Yeah. Right? We don't know anything else about his policies. That's all we know. Quite a bit about Trump.
Starting point is 01:54:00 All we know about him is that he has got a rattlesnake bite on his penis. And that seems like a fair starting point for me at this point. Snake guy for Prez. Right? I'm down. So we'll see what he tries, how he's going to get out of this pickle. How's he going to jump the general Lee over this one? But until we do, we have a website.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. And now here comes the sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. him.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.