Knowledge Fight - #113: February 21-23, 2014

Episode Date: December 22, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the February 21st and 23rd episodes of The Alex Jones Show. Dan set out to find out what Alex thought of Russia when they first invaded Ukraine, and he found something unsettling. However, he also found a bizarre esoteric rant and an entire episode full of Alex treating his callers like assholes.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That's pretty much what we do. 100% of what we do in this context, in this arena.

Dan. The Sphere of the Immortals. This may be our last show of 2017. It's possible. We might, we don't promise anything. There might be another show down the road, but this might be it. If you were to describe our podcast and the hook to it over the past year, what would you describe it? I would say that it is the tale of one man's hair growing really long. That's true.

That's it. I agree. That's it. That's it. That's what we do. That's what the podcast is about. That guy whose hair grows really long knows a lot about Alex Jones. And the guy who just trimmed his beard does not know anything about Alex Jones. Both of us have hair-related things to discuss. What? If you're going to pull hair, I'm going to pull hair.

Why not? That's what we're going to do. So guys, like I said, this may be the last episode of the year. Might not be either way. End of the year is coming up. And if you want to support the show, please do. So I'll be honest. Just in case.

Just in case we don't physically have it next year. Hey, happy holidays and Merry Christmas to y'all. If you want to give us a gift, go ahead. Knowledgefight.com is our website. You can click support the show. All of you who already have done that and are doing it, we appreciate it so much. But we really want to get this thing. You know what I've heard?

What's up? Don't like Camgirls have... God damn it. Don't they have like gift registries? Yeah. And people just send them. That's what we should do. I don't think it would help.

But it would just be like normal food items. Right. Send me a sandwich. Yeah, yeah. Instead of sending me some lingerie if you want me to wear it, it's like... One of the... I could use apples. One of the great struggles of my life is I really love doing this.

Is that you've always wanted to be a Camgirl? Well, I'm going to get to that. No, it's that I love doing this and I don't want to not be doing this, but I realize that conceivably jacking off on Cam, I might make more money than this. You might make more money than this. It's possible. It's a bummer. Dude, you've got a...

You're so hairy. You've got a whole... You've got a whole subsection of the Internet that's all about you. I've got a niche. Oh, man. So, anyway... Yeah, that's going to cause a little bit of a break in the action right there. Let's all just sit and absorb what it was we just said.

I got distracted by Dr. Poodle Papa on the chat room who said that we need to check our email because he offered to mail us wine. And he did. I got that email and I've been... I mean to get you back. Get back about that. I think that might be too expensive on your end to be worth it. I'll send you an email.

I apologize for not getting back to you yet. Sign us up for a cheese of the month club. At least then we know we'll eat cheese once a month. There's been a little bit of a... I've been depressed a little bit the last week and a half or so. And it's been tough in terms of keeping things going. And I apologize about some disruption. But there's been a couple of days where I've barely been able to get out of bed.

That's just life. Sometimes you've got to roll with it and move forward and wait for things to pass. Thankfully, things are a little bit better now. And today's episode is going to be a lot of fun. There we go. There we go. You need to pick me up. So anyway, let's get to this.

Jordan, we needed to end the year. And I didn't want to... Did we need to end the year? I feel like this year has been so great. We should just let it ride. Let it ride. Let it ride, baby. Double or nothing.

2017. Are you kidding me? Well, you know, based on the Gregorian calendar, it had to come to an end at some point. Yes. Although there isn't a year zero on the Gregorian calendar. So that means that it's actually 2016. It's true. But be that as it may.

I didn't want to do a new year's episode or anything like that. I thought that would be a little bit old hat, a little bit hacky. So I decided to get... And we tried the Secret of 2017 episode and that was very hacky. That was a disaster. That was a massive failure on our plates. Boy, it should have been fun. Oh, wouldn't that have been lovely?

So I was thinking about it. It's like, oh man, it's the fifth anniversary of this pose and my apocalypse. I'm like, we already did that episode. Shit. What are we going to do? Let's do it again. Let's Secret of 2017, the Mayan apocalypse, Dan. So, you know, I was like, I don't know what to do.

And so I just threw a dart. I threw a random dart into the past and thankfully I hit pay dirt. I hit... Hitler? Did you get him? I did. Did you get him? I darted Hitler.

You got him? Not killed him. Just like gave him a minor inconvenience. He was annoyed. Yeah. And I'll be honest. It wasn't as regular or as random as I'm pretending. What it was was I decided that I wanted to go back to the beginning of the Russia annexing

the Ukraine, the Crimea, which was on, I believe, the 20th of February, 2014. Yes. And so that's what I jumped back to. The new start of the Gregorian calendar. Yes. That's year zero, I believe. I jumped back to the 21st of February in 2014. I was like, I want to see...

Well, happy Valentine's Day. That's when Valentine's Day is right. Probably. Give or take a few days. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to see what Alex was up to then, what his positions were. And... I bet they're super pro Russia.

Here's what I found. On the 21st, he spends about the first 40 minutes talking about how Obama is about to take him over. He's about to take him down. Take Alex Jones down. Yes. The media. Not Crimea.

No, no. He was just going to just destroy the entire media. It was a totalitarian fascist takeover. Right. It would have been a very interesting development if Obama's response to Russia annexing Crimea was to be like, 51st state bitches, who's annexing who now? Or I'm going to take out Alex Jones. Yeah.

That's also another interesting decision for him to make. Either one of those would be equally likely. So, I mean, now that Obama's out of office and he didn't take down the media and didn't attack, you know, that at all, he didn't attack Alex Jones really at all. Arguably, unfortunately. He mocked Alex a little bit, which is, I mean, that's fair play. Yeah. But so that first 40 minutes was really boring until I got to this clip and I was like, oh,

no. Now the fire's been lit. When I come back at the beginning of the next segment, I'm going to try to quantify what the human destiny, I believe is and what it could be and what I believe the human experience truly is. Yes. And just how incredibly magical it is. I'm in.

I'm going to attempt in just two or three minutes to quantify it and then I'm going to open the phones up and I want to hear from you. What do you think the human destiny is? What are you doing to resist this evil? Oh, yeah. Prediction. Okay. Three calls.

We're not even going to get to the calls. So he does not spend two to three minutes quantifying the human experience. He may spend a little bit more time. He spends 1145 11 minutes and 45 seconds on a rant about the human experience. Okay. And it's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. I have a lot of things that I can specifically point out that he's lying about that we're going to get through.

And then he takes an entire break like from commercial to commercial for him to get through this rant. And then when he does take calls, there's like, yeah, global suck. Yeah. High five. All right. So here is where the rant begins. And I will say in fairness to Alex, he kind of starts off on a good foot.

It's not great. Okay. But there are some things in this first two minutes of the rant that I can kind of sign off on. All right. That changes quickly. All right. On this Friday, the 21st day of February, 2014, happy about casting the millions listening

as we speak. I want to talk about the nature of reality before we open the phone calls up here. The nature of what it is to be a human. We tend to individually have a feeling like we've been here forever and that we're never going to die and to be overconfident until we get older. Because we look around us and see institutions and buildings and culture and language and customs that took tens of thousands of years to develop on this planet. Real quick.

I don't know if he's saying you as an individual, I think you have been around forever or humanity. I think he's, I think he's talking about him, but when he's externalizing it, do you think he's saying that you, Jordan, as an individual, think you, Jordan have been around for a long time or humanity because I'll say that humanity has been around for a long time. Okay. Well, I mean, or like in the history of the earth, you know, the, the traditional expression is if you considered the entire lifespan of the earth, human beings would be in the, like, second of the 31st day or the, you know, that whole thing.

So relatively speaking, no, we have not. Compared to our experience, which is really the most real thing to us race, race, don't jump the gun with our species and the rights of passage and the archetypal rituals that seem so comforting to us that are great, great, great, great, great times a hundred grandparents went through as well. And we now live in a time where those rituals and those rights and those human activities are being removed and scientifically dissolved and replaced with rituals of dehumanization and of consciousness suppression.

That is the great crime of the new world order. And I look at people who say they're bored or there's nothing going on in the world. That's because they are totally bought in to the mainline cosmology of sports and the drama and the movies and the celebrity that the 99.99999% of people will ever be part of. And they imagine that it's like some golden field of the demigods and Elysium that they someday might be able to join if they play along with the system and that that is where the fulfillment lies while fulfillment in the human process is waiting for you.

So that at the end is the part that I'm talking about that I'm like, this is a decent sign off on that. This is a decent foot. I do, I do agree with him with his thoughts about celebrity worship. We've gone over that in the past. The idea that a lot of people get trapped up in the glitz and the glamour of the movie industry and Hollywood and what have you and even reality television is guilty of this to some extent or Alex Jones, in my case, you get caught up in something and it becomes

overwhelming to other parts of your life. So here's the thought that bothers me. Do people really believe that human beings like a hundred thousand years ago didn't get bored? Oh, they did. Like generally, if you're talking about a hunter gatherer society, what we know from bone density and the way that we've discovered those fossils is that a lot of time they just, you know, starved.

Sure, they would start for a week at a time and then that's why we love fatty food so much is because we're just a load. You never know when you're going to start to death, right? Yeah. So you're hunting, you're gathering, but you're like, well, shit, there's nothing a hunter gatherer and we're just hanging out. Like don't you think they wish they wished they could have had an Elysian sport or the Nintendo switch?

God, wouldn't they have killed if you brought them forward in time and had them play the switch? They would never hunter and gather. But even then, according to Alex, like the, like the hunting part of it is exciting, but gathering is kind of boring. Man. So even that, like half of the population, female half, are still living boring lives according to Alex Beckman.

He's romanticizing this idea of cave men. I feel like if you haven't eaten for like four days, the gathering part is pretty interesting too. Well, but I don't, I don't know, I don't know what interesting means in that context then. Pretty stoked. I mean, you'd have to be pretty stoked about it. Maybe you'd have to be like, Oh, check this out. There's another piece of food to eat.

So there's another piece of food to eat. I still don't think that's not boring, exciting, low standards. People play words with friends. It's equally as exciting as words with friends. You and I play Scrabble. Don't I know don't shit on people who gather, I would gather letters. I wouldn't consider it exciting to gather. Anyway.

Well, this is why you're boring. It's gravel. That's true. Yeah. I'm very far. I'm very formulaic, very rigorous and undefeatable. So lost one time. Never again.

All right. I still think that there is a kernel of something in there and I'm making a bigger deal out of this than I need to just because of how off the rails this is going to get. Okay. They're like, I do kind of have a hinge here where I'm like the fulfillment of the human process. Right. You're better than this.

You're better than getting trapped up in celebrity. Right. I'm all right. I mean, are you though? It depends on who we're talking about. Yeah. I think most people are. Anyway.

I disagree. A lot of people have a subscription to Cosmo. I've cut out nothing of these. Okay. So it's just going to go. This is all one clip that we're cutting into wherever we feel like. Uh-huh. Here's the next, here's where the next chunk starts.

What do you mean? What the fuck is he talking about? Let him develop his theme and then we'll talk about it. There's no, okay. All right. Hold on. What was the first? He started with epigenetics.

We can start the clip over, but just take notes and then that the end is. I'm going to take notes, but he started with. He might answer your questions. He won't. Of course he won't, but he might. Accessing the archetypes that access the epigenetics on record and the race memory proven in all major mammal species and the strongest in humans. You want to watch a movie?

How about you watch one from 5,000 years ago? Where do you think all these instincts come from? Why are you scared at night going in and out of your door? Why is there anxiety? Why do children imagine monsters with big red eyes and big teeth? That's big cats, big bears. All of it is there. Big bears.

It's in chickens as well. You can take chickens, 10 generations indoors with no stimuli and have a cloud go over projected on the ceiling and have 10 generations later. They've seen nothing. A cloud project a plane, but have a hawk fly over. They all run screaming and hiding. Squawking. It's the same thing.

They're trying to take all those basic instincts away from you that in the DNA, in the neurons, in your shells, your shells have a memory that has now been proven. What all the ancients and what all the sages said has now been mathematically, scientifically proven. There are a collective mass tissue species where we are individuals, but together we form a giant group collective organism, a mass organism, that at a sixth sense level they've proven, they've done this with rhesus monkeys where you'll have one island. Once you teach a certain amount of monkeys the trick on one island, they will magically

suddenly, that day, learn it on the next island 100, 200 times faster. It's not taking them two years to teach the monkeys how to do a trick, how to get something out of a bottle, but the day they start learning and over here, you can hand it to the other monkeys on another island and they know how to do it. Now, what is that? No one knows, folks. There's a lot going on here. People do know what that is.

No one knows, folks. There's a lot going on here. Yeah. You want to start with what you're talking, your business. First of all, the stuff about fears that are passed down through generations, a lot of that is instinct. I don't fully understand DNA, but from a lot of the amount of research that I'm able to do with my non-masters degree in the subject, I understand that there is a process called

methylation wherein pieces of the DNA are actually changed, like methyl pieces are attached to the DNAs, DNA strands, and they are able to track through this process that happens. They didn't experiment in rats where they, I can't remember what the actual, what the gas or the scent that they used as a trigger for the rats, they gave them this smell and then electrocuted them, shocked them, and then future generations would be scared of just the smell. It's because of DNA methylation. The genes are actually sort of warped behaviorally, and that DNA is then passed down.

That's cool as fuck. Yeah. It's not like, I don't fully understand it, but scientists do. Do they? For the most part. I think they understand some of it. Well, it fully is tough. I mean, part of science is being like, hey, you know that thing we thought 30 years ago?

It doesn't make sense. Right. But it would make sense that 10 generations later, chickens would still have that in them based on the fact that every existing chicken before them had that, and that gene would have been fully expressed. Right, right. No, evolution favors organisms that can learn throughout time and adapt to that as well. In the same way that it favors a, you know, stronger person doing a stronger thing, those

make more. So I would assume instinct is favored among different generations. Yeah. Strong instincts allow you to reproduce more efficiently. Yeah, exactly. So anyway, where are you at? Where am I at? So explain to me what he thinks epigenetics is.

Magic. He thinks that's a good point. I mean, he thinks it's a great word to use. Because epigenetics just describes even like genetic predetermination for anxieties, depressions. The studies have been done that show that there seems to be some sort of a genetic component addictions that are passed down. So that sort of thing is epigenetics. If your dad, if your dad drunk, you were probably...

If your dad drunk, you drink. If your dad drunk, you drink. I think that sentence makes sense. Yeah. All right. So he thinks that's magical. Yes. Which sages have been proven correct?

Just like all of them? Sage Francis? I don't know. Sage Francis has always been correct. I don't know any sages. Are we talking about the Oracle at Delphi? Like, what are we talking about? I don't think the Oracle of Delphi talked about epigenetics.

Are we talking about Pliny the Elder? Pliny the Elder? Don't greet me. Come on. If your dad Greek, you Greek. So the other thing there at the end is this idea he has about the, you know, you teach enough monkeys and then magically these other monkeys across the pond are going to have that behavior that you've taught them.

Well, that was a very interesting event wherein it was something called Morphic Resonance. There was a species of a kidnare like a crow that learned how to use a tool in a certain way. On an island that had no recorded, whatever it's called, contact with the same species, they learned it within a week or two. Now they thought that, you know, the thought there is, well, but it could also have just been coincidence. But that's not what he's talking about.

Of course it's not. I'm just trying to find a real world thing that makes sense. I have it. What's that? Well, there's this belief. If you show me a dick pic, I'm going to be very mad. I won't. I got it right here.

There's a, there's this belief that goes around in like pseudo-scientific communities. It's called the hundredth monkey theory and that is, that is that if you teach enough monkeys a behavior, all other monkeys will start to learn it. And it's supposedly based on science, but it's all been debunked. So I'm just going to read you here from some article about this. The story of the hundredth monkey effect was published by Lyle Watson's forward to Lawrence Blair's Rhythms of Vision in 1975 and spread with the appearance of Wattenston's 1979 book, Lifetide.

The account is that unidentified scientists were conducting a study of macaque monkeys in the Japanese island of Koshima in 1952. These scientists observed that some of these monkeys learned to wash sweet potatoes and gradually this new behavior spread through the younger generation of monkeys in the usual fashion though observation and rep, through observation and repetition. Right. Watson then concluded that the researchers observed that once a critical number of monkeys was reached, i.e. the hundredth monkey, this previously learned behavior instantly spread

across the water to other monkeys on nearby islands. So if I understand correctly, anywhere where those monkeys existed, if there was a small subsection of monkeys up to a hundred, then that knowledge would then be transmitted to all monkeys around the world within that species. That is the idea that there is a threshold and this is an idea that goes around in theosophists and pseudo-scientific communities. If we just raise the consciousness to a breaking point, everyone will benefit from it because this consciousness will spread.

So it's like magical Malcolm Gladwell is what you're talking about. Right, it's like Alex too. Like he talks about how like we get him. No. Well, so is Malcolm Gladwell. Sure. All right. So...

All right. Anybody? Unsubstantiated claims that there was a sudden and remarkable increase in the proportion of sweet potato washers in the first population were exaggerations of a much slower, more mundane effect. Rather than all monkeys mysteriously learning the skill, it was noted that it was predominantly younger monkeys that learned the skill from older monkeys through observational learning, which is widespread in the animal kingdom.

Older monkeys who did not know how to wash the sweet potatoes tended not to learn. As the older monkeys died and younger monkeys were born, the proportion of washers naturally increased. The time span between observations by the Japanese scientists was on the order of years, so the increase in proportion was not observed to be sudden. So all this is bullshit, but then beyond that, claims that the practice of washing the sweet potatoes spread suddenly to other isolated populations of monkeys may be called into question, given the fact that at least one sweet potato washing monkeys swam to another

population and spent about four years there. And also, the monkeys had researchers in common. What the fuck was that guy doing? He just went... Where was he going? Also, the sweet potato is... Now that's your hundredth monkey right there. That's your story.

The guy goes... Fuck the morphic resonance bullshit. I want to know what the fuck that monkey was doing swimming all the way across there. Yeah. So it turns out that sweet potatoes are not like... They weren't a native food to these monkeys. And so the idea that older monkeys wouldn't know how to prepare them is completely reasonable. They'd have to figure it out.

They'd have to sort it out. So the older generations having lower proportion. Do you know how you can very simply prove that this theory is bullshit? That way? You know how old people can't take a fucking screenshot on their phone? It's true. That's not a hundredth monkey situation. Well, because the next generation...

They're going to die. It never applies to the older generation. It's always the younger ones. Yeah, they're going to die. Anyway, who cares? Kill the elderly. I think what this study really teaches is we need to kill all old monkeys. In starting to espouse his beliefs about race memory and what have you, he is completely

indicated that he has no idea what epigenetics is. He has no idea about DNA methylation. Right. He has no idea that the hundredth monkey theory is complete, umpus bumpus, as they say in British fiction. And as far as race memory goes, he doesn't even know Usain Bolt, one in 2008. Not at all. So anyway, we go on with the clip.

And the globalists are aware of all that and are trying to jack into it and hack it and block it. That's why they don't want you to be a natural man. They don't want to be a natural woman. They don't want to follow your natural instincts that will fulfill you, satisfy you. They don't want you to go through the rights and rituals of manhood. They don't want you to be feminine if you're a woman. They don't want you to go through those because you will be fulfilled.

You will mature and you will activate all of the pre-programming that the creator put into us because we are free will. We do have a consciousness above all this that rides it, but there are so many levels to our life. So many organs and cell systems and mitochondrial DNA and DNA and RNA interfaces and electrochemical processes where it's all interfacing inside your body and with other people visually, audibly, through the tactile touch, through the smell, through the taste. Are you eating people?

I am all those that came before me. Their desperate battle to survive is now manifest in me and in you. I can feel their struggle and their strength. I can feel it. They are raging and seething for us to succeed. All of them stacked on top of one another, now with us. That's not a safe pyramid. I look at the next generation and I then join my ancestors from that perspective looking

out, only wanting us to colonize space, only wanting us not to destroy ourselves, only wanting us to succeed. I agree. Sign off on everything. And then I see the greed, the animus, the evil, the people turned to the jungle in this corrupt system to survive, believing evil and treachery is what has empowered them and called bloodedness when it is what has held us back. Guns and roses?

To absolutely going to the next level. So I wanted today to just speak about the human experience. Okay. I would posit that it's not the human experience. It's Alex's mentally ill, possibly brain damaged experience. I'm liking it. So I know it's interesting. It's much more interesting than his bigotry.

That's for damn sure. Even though there's a parcel of bigotry in it. Oh, there's absolutely not to mention misogyny. Oh, 100%. Yeah. But, but, but still way more interesting to me than his normal knockout game narratives. Of course. Like that.

I would much rather hear just like. It's got a, it's got a hint of the, you're not allowed to say father or mother anymore in it though. But he's too esoteric at this point in the episode to get into those class narrative. That's true. This is high level stuff. He's got to mention epigenetics, a hundredth monkey shit. This is not time for brown bags being outlawed or purple penguins.

What's your favorite ritual of manhood? Beating everybody up and then banging a bunch of young ladies before I'm 16 and then getting thrown out of school for fighting too much and smoking crack twice on a beach. Um, and then I don't know, maybe graduating from high school. That's a long ritual. It's going to take a while. Well, I'm trying to figure out what's your favorite ritual of womanhood men sees. I don't know.

I don't think it's, I don't think it's fair for me to critique what the rights of passage for women are. I didn't have that life experience. Come on, man. You, you're trying to, you're trying to sell me up the river. I was hoping you would suddenly pick up some improv skills. Apparently I was wrong. I have never, I have never claimed to be a yes and a guy.

Um, I don't know, man. I think his view of the rights of passage are slightly skewed, especially based on the things that we know of his life. Right. If we, if we consider the possibility that he is telling the truth about his history, and the idea that he broke a ways with his mom and individuated at like age six when she told him he didn't get love anymore. Right of passage.

That's not the healthy time to have that manhood at six years old. Still very much need your connection with your parents in order to contextualize the world around you. Can't be on the T at six, baby. Maybe in caveman days. Unfortunately. Well, that was your lifespan in caveman days. All right.

So, I think that's the right of passage. Maybe picking up some wildly anti-Semitic, John Birch society style beliefs at the age of about 12. Right. That's a right of passage. Right. I don't know. Or like, you know, like walking the cornfields, pulling weeds.

Like a lot of those, all that other stuff. Very similar rights of passage. All that other stuff I said in that string of shit is all stuff he's admitted were part of his childhood. Right. So like, I don't think those are healthy rights of passage. I'm not here to judge him or anything, but. Now, he's judging everyone else.

Yeah. Yeah. Here's my, here's my like first big red flag. All right. We need to go to the stars. Right. That's important to him. Well, no, no.

It's important to the ancestors who he feels in his bosom. As well as the creator. Right. But at the same time. The creator actually is not weighed in on it. At the same time, we have to stick to the rituals of those old people. Of tribal days. Who never went to the stars.

Right. Does he think that if we continue to hunter gather long enough, we'll just like start floating like we'll just get up there. Well, we'll be like, eh, I ran out of berries over here. So might as well check out the moon. Yeah. I mean, that must be what he thinks. Yeah.

Because those two things are very antithetical. The idea of rigidly holding on to the past, well, trying to progress, it doesn't make a goddamn lick of sense. No, it's a dangerous thing. It's straight up bullshit. So we're not done with this rant yet. I didn't imagine so. In this next clip, Alex gets more into the rites of passage, tries to cite a poem.

Oh boy. And then gets weird. Oh boy. Life is like a hundred yard dash. Where you're born explosively into the world and your body begins to grow and you begin to take on all this information and the trials and the tribulations and all the new things and then the viruses and the bacteria and the language and the culture and you're bombarded and you race right to the end.

And then boom, the next generation takes the baton and it's all explosive generations back at 300 back in Greece, right through the Alamo, all for the billions of experiences, all the legends, all the major ones, all the all the men and all the people that fought and died, all the honorable, all the brave, all the wicked, all the evil, all the backstabbing. Like this one was strong. He was brave. This one was bold. This one was lucky.

There was our child Roland came and for a brief moment, the hills lit up with fire and I could see them all and I was with them. This lifted the horn to his mouth in blue, losing the thread. That's what it's all about, ladies and gentlemen on target. So there he quotes his, his favorite poem that he quotes a lot. Right. And we've never really taken the time to look at it. So I looked into it a little bit this time because it seemed weird because he's on this

rant about rights of passage and stuff like that. Right. He thinks that child Roland, it's the child Roland to the dark tower came as the name of the poem by a gentleman by the name of Robert Browning. Yep. And I think that he thinks child Roland means baby Roland and it doesn't know child with an E at the end is a word not for a child. It means untested night.

Yeah. Back in the old time English. So this is an adult. Also Robert Browning as a lit major shitty poet. Not good at it. He wrote long poems. It wasn't short. I did read the whole poem.

He gets into like a fucking eight page long poems, man. As someone who came up on like translating the Iliad and shit, this isn't that long for that. Well, yeah, of course. So your dad, Greek, you Greek. Come on, man. My dad ain't Greek. So I read, I read the, the child Roland to the dark tower came and it's actually

really interesting because I think there's some connections with Alex in the poem that he doesn't realize. Okay. So one of the first things about it is it's not about a rite of passage and I don't necessarily believe that all of the great heroes of old appear to Roland at the end when he goes to the dark tower and completes his rite of passage. Oh, that sounds right. That's one interpretation.

That's what's kind of fun about art and poetry is you can have your own interpretation and Alex's could be true to him and that's great. Hey, that's not what most people have. Authorial intent died in the sixties. Margaret Atwood, who is a famous writer and also the, that's the name my cat had at the Humane Society before I, before I adopted her, Margaret Atwood believes that the poem Child Roland is actually Robert Browning himself and that the dark tower is the act of writing the poem.

The movie by Stephen King. No, no, the dark tower. Yeah, no, no, no, but I mean, that is probably what Robert Browning was a huge Stephen King fan. Come on. It was obviously what he was citing. I'm, I'm derailing you as soon as you're curious. Let's do it.

Robert Browning was citing King Lear, which is actually citing in itself a old time fairy tale called Child Roland and it's theorized that it is actually the protagonist from the song of Roland, who is in the poem. But anyway, Margaret Atwood's theory is that it, you know, there is a lot of fear within the, the poem and it's the dark tower is the, like the act of writing the poem is what he is working his way towards and he is afraid of finishing it. Okay. So there's that.

There are other interpretations about it being a nightly quest is what the, you know, the tower symbolizes and that success can only come through failure or realization that it's futile. I don't know. I don't really like poetry that much, but one of the things I did notice while reading this poem, Do you want to start a knowledge fight poetry club? Yeah, I do.

I do. I noticed that there's a trend. The story of the poem is Child Roland going, at the beginning, he gets told by this old weirdo that he's got to go do this thing or whatever he's like, I'm not sure if I trust this guy. And then he goes along on his way through some woods and some, some fields trying to find this tower. Right.

Joseph Campbell's hero's journey somewhat, but he goes along the way and nothing happens to him the entire time, but it's full of like, Oh my God, this river could be full of dead bodies and it's not like the entire time it's just made up bullshit. When it could just be a stroll in the woods, that could be what the literal thing he's experiencing is, but he's mythologized this into like this crazy trip to a, to a battle. Right. And it's not, right. It's not that he's rewriting his own story in order to make it more interesting.

Exactly. Because it's actually just a walk to a fucking tower. Right. And he gets to the tower. There's no indication that there's a battle there or anything like that. And at the end, he does say, let me read this here off. They stood there, ranged on the hillsides, met to view the last of me, a living frame for one more picture in a sheet of flame.

I saw them and I knew them all. And yet Dauntless, the slug horn to my lips I set and blue child roll on to the dark tower came in the same way that he blew them. No, Dauntless, slug horn, Dauntless was a Dauntless was like they've named a lot of boats after that poem and a ship in Star Trek. Yeah. Look, in the same way he's imagining the entire trip there is being full of fraught with danger. And he's imagining these, these people there.

The other thing is there's a point in the poem. Are the globalists at the dark tower? No, but there's a point in the poem where he doesn't really want to go anymore. Mm-hmm. Doesn't really want to keep going. And I'll just read you this and see what you think is being described. Okay. Not it.

I fancied Cuthbert's redding face beneath its garniture of curly gold, dear fellow, till I almost felt him fold, an arm in mind to fix me to the place, the way he dust, alas, one night's disgrace, out went my heart's new fire and left it cold. What is he describing there? He's talking about banging a dude. He is talking about banging a dude. Now let's get to this. I'm pretty sure he's being held gently by a dude.

Cuthbert. There's two kinds of fire in him, and then it's extinguished. One night's disgrace. You got it. Giles then, the soul of honor. There he stands. Frank is 10 years ago when knighted first. What honest man should dare, he said.

He durst. Good, but the scene shifts. Fa, what hangman hands. Pinned his breast apartment. His only bands. Read it. Poor traitor. Spit upon and cursed.

So he's remembering a knight that was really noble and was a traitor and was killed for treason. Better this present than a past like that. Back therefore to my darkening path again. So what he goes on to actually get along on his imaginary quest is, oh shit, my past, I banged that dude. And hey, even heroes end up sometimes turning out to be traitors. So he's running from a past that he deems dishonorable or whatever.

That is, he's running from shame and fear towards an imagined end line. So anyway, what I'm in that, in that section of the poem, though, what the interpretation would be is more by quitting the quest. I would be the traitor, probably, as opposed to he is running away from banging a dude. The dude he banged is more just like, he seems I could hang out and be with this dude. But I'm remembering this dude who was a traitor and I can't stay with him because I would, you know, that whole thing. I have to stay true to my quest.

These two stanzas are memories. And then it says, better this present than a past like that. So even though there does seem to be some warmth when he's talking about Cuthbert, he's still saying like, I would rather have this fearful, you know, present than the past like that. Right. Welcome to Knowledge Fight Poetry Club. I know a lot about poetry.

Let's get off this. But I want, I want to just really like specify that what I'm talking about is Alex Jones has made up a fictionalized mythic quest that he's been on for the last 23 years or whatever. And he's banged a dude. And he's going towards some sort of allegedly, he's going towards some imaginary finish line of heroics that he thinks he's heading towards. Rare. He thinks he is this guy going to this dark tower.

Of course. He's just imagining the entire thing and what propels him forward possibly is some sort of shame, not necessarily about banging a dude like Cuthbert, but some sort of shame of something in his past that we are at present. I mean, let's be honest, Cuthbert seemed very gentle for the time. Sure. Seemed great. So anyway, back to the clip.

And when you figure that out, that you are all those people that came before you and you are all those people that come after you, you're not going to worry about dying anymore yourself. You're going to worry about the consciousness you've got dying and the rituals that have been carried out by our ancestors, not being carried out into the future, because then those rituals are needed in all the psychology, in all the anthropology, in all the sociology, in all of it. You need those to then activate none of those things.

All of the DNA strands, the 96% they said was junk that isn't that literally every day that resonates and activates the data packets, the compressed data information we need to go into the future. What are you talking about? Like a zip file? Yeah. That's what he's talking about. Okay.

Yeah. Are you saying that your DNA are zip files and you just need to decompress them? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're going to need like Winrar or an unzip program and that's not really a ritual.

No. It's the rituals, the rites of passage. Those are the, those, that's Winrar. Right. Again, based on what I know of his past, I would say it's not the rites of passage that unlocked any weird thoughts like this in his brain as much as, well, I mean, if you count being stuck under a house, being fumigated as a rite of passage. That would unlock a lot of shit in your brain.

That could give you some sort of ideas along these lines. Right. And it would probably make it very difficult for you to understand what you're reading. He's got like a half remembrance of half of something that maybe was true that he read in the title of an article, like 96, 96% of junk DNA that scientists told us is like, no one's ever said that. Well, that's that colloquial bullshit about, you'll use 10% of your brain. Yeah.

Of course. And that doesn't make any fucking sense. No. It's, but it's one of those popular ideas or like all the heat escapes from your head. Like that's from a study they did where they had the guy wear thermal clothing, but he didn't wear a hat. So they're like, well, of course, all the heat escapes from your head. And you're like, no, you were just, it's the place.

You didn't cover your head. The uncovered place. Yeah. So we have one more clip of this rant and it gets like towards the end, it gets very confusing because I think he's trying to sum up what he wants, like what he wants this all to have been about. Yeah. I think he's spouting pseudo science, debunked studies, probable misinterpretations of child

Roland to the dark tower came a bunch of made up shit as well. Yeah. And so, but it's not till the end that it actually becomes really confusing to me because he brings it back towards the real world. Let's get it. Let's get confusing. He brings it back towards the real world and I just don't know what he means. I want to get confused and believe me, we need all of those struggles.

And all of that information to go into the future. The globalist are trying to block us off from that information because that is the answer. So there my friends really is the nature of reality is that think about how we're alive for the short moment interfacing with all this art, literature and culture that our species has created. How can you not love humanity and want to embrace humanity for your brief moment of consciousness before you are re uploaded into the next wave. And then there's a spiritual living forever as well that is certainly real and is the

next level God gives us life and creation on so many levels. That's what I've become to understand. We live on through our children, the surest way of living forever. We live on through the DNA. We live on through the art, through the literature, through the ideas and the great human attribute. The true sign of being human is not just forming our own environment, not just taking control of our own development. That is the foundation.

But the great spark, the Promethean fire is the desire to transmit loving knowledge on to the next generation and to build up the young of the future. I agree that that is important. Now it's also important for that information to be correct. The loving information should be correct. So what we're really saying is don't allow Alex Jones's kids to have kids. That's the only real way to kill Alex Jones. Epigenetically.

Exactly. Politically, epigenetically. I love his bullshit of like, it's through the art, it's through the literature, it's through all of these things that live on, it's through, but don't watch movies. No. Now I know I quote movies a lot. And I mean, don't look, all art is made by globalists, so don't look at that. That's what we leave on to our kids globalists.

They're trying to block the past, but we got to stay back there. Otherwise the past isn't going to allow us to get to the future. That doesn't make a goddamn bit of sense. What the fuck is he talking about? I'm not sure. Everything is a contradiction within itself. Right. That's the mysteries.

That's Alex Jones. That's the mysteries. Oh, well, we figured out. Good thing this is our last podcast of the year. We fucking nailed it. This clip isn't done. Oh, shit. Because they are us.

We are them. They will become the elders and fall like dust into the ground. This is the great truth. This is why you uphold your family name. This is why you try to be an honorable good person. This is why you have a conscience. Is this good for humanity? And the globalists come with a counterfeit and say, yes, we are the collectivist because

we are collectivist. And they come and they say, we're going to create a collectivism to help humanity when they're actually centralized parasites that hate humanity that are using a collectivism to shudder and block and gouge out the eyes and the ears and the nose and the soul of humanity in the sixth sense so that we cannot be individuals. We are individuals who are part of a collective and are meant to operate through free association and free will to take the greatest attributes of humanity through free association to vote in free association to uphold the greatest of our people to then make that the model

for others as a stairway to build even greater systems into the future. This is the human experience. This is the great goal. This is what can free us, not Hollywood, not fame, not fake fortune, none of it, but building a true world, building a better world, building a free world based on new process, based on honor, based on our fathers and our mothers that came before us. No Ed Pivot. Well, that's better than usual.

Well, it's 2014, so he's not nearly as desperate at this point. So one of the things that I want to talk about there is the use of the word free association over and over again, because you know free association is largely a Marxist, communist and anarchist term. It's mostly... But that's false collectivism. No, no, no, like free association, if you're just talking about the right to assemble and stuff like that, then that's in the First Amendment and that's never, that's not really

approached. But that's what the globalists put in there. Right. But then if you're talking about, like one of the other biggest versions of free association is like unions. Unions are very in the conversation of free association. But that's not real free association. That's the globalist false collectivism that they're using to try and block your real free

association, which is discovering that your father and mother are actually you. But I mean only your father, because your mother is really not involved, which I think is what Alex Jones believes. Only women's mothers are associated with free association. Jumps generations. Yeah, I don't... So what it comes down to is like workers and people who make money off of work, of labor, have a relationship that is not necessarily freely associated.

It's a forced association based on me needing to sell my labor in order to survive and therefore the person with the capital to use my labor has essentially control. Prosperity? He has control over my association. He has control over, you know, my life. By the way, the food workers at O'Hare went on strike. Support them. Sweet.

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Here. It's a forced association based on me needing to sell my labor in order to survive and have a long working life. Here. Here. He believes, he believes that the people with the capital, he said that he might be of, you know, what's covered in the First Amendment, which is cool, I guess, but I... If I, if I understand what he's talking about, and I will not claim to.

He goes to open carry marches, like he goes, he goes on marches where they make public displays of just having their guns out and shit, which I, you know, they have the right to do, but he can't claim that free association is being taken away from him. He can have whatever political group he wants. He can get on the radio and start a political cult if he wants. People are free to associate with him. I think what he's really describing, if, if I understand correctly, is everybody should live with giant tracks of land where they never see anybody, unless you choose to see

somebody else. Yeah, probably. That's essentially what he's describing there. This idea of like forced collectivism, or no, the false collectivism in his idea is cities. Yeah. Yeah. Basically.

You know, that, that idea of living in a city with all those people, right? He's afraid of that. He's afraid of people. Yeah. We know he's afraid of people. That is kind of what it is. He only wants to, this is all, all that he has just said is, I am afraid of other people. So to you, what I'm here from, what I'm hearing from you is free association to him is the

right to not associate with some, boom, as opposed to the term as it actually exists. Nailed it. If that's 100% that's the case. If that's the case, then his argument for free association is not really free association because if you don't want to be associated with someone like, like me, because let's say you don't want to be associated with cross-eyed people, right? I have, which has always been true. I have no freedom in that bid on record.

I have no free association in terms of your rules. This is stupid. Anyway, stupid. He's full of nonsense. But I do like that he accidentally is advocating for Marxist, if, if he actually knew what he was talking about. So that's, that's such a, and it's, it's also so brilliant in regards to Alex Jones's, you know, operating procedure in so far as this version of collectivism, whatever it

is I am saying is collectivism is correct. Anybody who says there's a different version of collectivism is a globalist. Right, right, right. So he is taking ownership completely of the word. I think he does that with a lot of stuff. Yeah, no, exactly. Like Christmas. It's Christmas week.

Yeah. It is Christmas week, right? Yeah. Hey guys, I do not look at the chat sadly with those human eyes. I am not a fish person. You are a fish person. I glance from time to time and I'd like to respond to more, but we don't have time and we got to, you know, we have our own world to get through here.

I apologize if you guys feel critiqued by me or anything. Nobody's critiquing anybody. So we have one more clip from the 21st before we get to the 23rd. And like I said, I thought the whole episode was just this weird as rant. Oh, no, I have a real sweet payoff for us. Oh, oh, cause I was fucking totally vamping. No, no. I was like, no more 45 minute spirit of 2017 bullshit.

We got esoteric Alex on the 21st and then we got a new Alex on the 23rd. We have a new Alex. The 21st was Friday. The 23rd is Sunday and my man, I fucking really like Alex on the 23rd. Spoiler alert. I think that in a different life, Alex Jones could have been pretty amazing at certain things and he displays some of these skills in a second. But first, I went back to February 2014 specifically to try and see if I could

figure out what Alex Jones's take on Russia annexing part of the Ukraine was. Right. So I instead, that's what we're, that's ostensibly what we're talking about. I instead found this weird esoteric rant that we've been talking about for quite a bit now where he just lies and says a bunch of random bullshit. Yeah. But later in the episode, he has an interview with Jerome Corsi, who is at this point still just a writer for world net daily.

So he is not even a part of the info wars fold yet, but Alex Jones considers him a very important trusted source, important piece of the Patriot movement. Yes. And the only thing I think you need to know before this clip gets going is that in 2014, February, 2014, the winter Olympics in Sochi were going on in Russia. Right. And so, uh, which Obama annexed, right?

So that's kind of the backdrop of some of the stuff that Jerome Corsi is talking about. Right, right, right. His big complaint that he's going to get to is that, um, well, you'll see. And Alex, I'll mute the Ukraine. Look, it's no, it's not coincidental. The Ukraine is on fire right now while the Olympics are going on. The Ukraine has wanted to move towards the West.

What you're seeing in the Olympics is an NBC produced television show. It's a studio show. If you notice, all the Olympics look the same, whether it's this one or four years ago or four years in the future, they're all going to look the same. They're all this political propaganda. Oh, look, all the world gets together. We can all compete together. You don't see in Russia the suppression of rights that was put on to make this

show go reemergence of, you know, a Russia that is a totalitarian state. You don't see the part of the opening games where all the communist images were displayed before all the different flags marched into the stadium. You know, all the, all the part is sanitized. You're watching a sanitized television show on the Olympics, but there's nothing more than, you know, the gladiator games from Rome, written large and made available on your television set to keep people entertained. I mean, I don't mean to demean the competition of the competitors, the

athletes are doing a good job, but you've got to realize the political aspect of this and the people in the Ukraine, as well as the people in Russia have been begging for someone to listen to them and their fight for their own rights. And Obama is turning a deaf ear. Obama will not support Ukraine. He'll support Putin. And he's doing it again with the weakness of the United States and the weakening down of our military might.

So we're becoming very rapidly a second class power. So hold on. You're, you're doing the jackoff motion, but this is incredibly important. No, no, no, I get, I get why the white Jerome course he said, like, what take what his horrible voice, as you will, uh, that's a droning nasally sounds like old millhouse. What he is saying, my friend, in this clip is that it is the Ukraine versus Putin.

Yeah, they have very separate interests and the United States needs to support the people of Ukraine and the Russians who are crying out for help against Putin's totalitarian regime that he runs in Russia. Yeah, absolutely. Jerome Corsi is a hundred percent the opposite direction now. Oh, he is. Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

So now let's see if Alex has any, uh, where's he at? Or in the world, which is a disgrace given the men and women who fought and died to preserve American freedom and the way around the world are going to turn a blind eye and not even speak up and champion those in Ukraine who want their own rights, want their own government and want to be free of Russian domination. Well, Dr. Corsi, I concur with what you're saying.

Putin, it's definitely a former KGB run kleptocracy, but compared to then some of the things Obama has been doing. We know Soros is in there trying to jump on the back along with the Hillary's groups and the endowment for democracy and the rest of them. Of course. Just try to, you know, this into the EU. I'd like Ukraine to be sovereign and not be a separate EU. The Ukraine needs to be its own nation.

Again, well, that's what I'm saying. What do they do then? You don't want to be part of Russia. You don't want to be part of the EU. And then you've got Soros and them trying to foment this rebellion. I mean, what, who side do you get on? Well, the EU needs to be broken up. So, all right, well, that part's consistent.

Corsi, Corsi has, uh, Corsi has been wrong. There, there, that in as much as they both believe that the EU and the UN need to be broken up, they're already, uh, geopolitically on fairly similar territory as Putin. But you can see at this point, I guarantee Alex has not had that interview with Russian intelligence. Or at the very least has not been, uh, jerked off by, uh, nope. They haven't told him that Putin listens to the show yet.

Nope. They haven't lied to him and told him that because at this point, he is at least close to that, uh, the place that he was at and, uh, like UK, yeah, where Putin looks like a demon and is a power grab, a former KGB kleptok kleptocrat. Right. Yep. He's a hundred percent different than that. Now in 2015, even we saw, so somewhere between February, 2014 and June, 2015,

Alex Jones was flipped by Russian intelligence. I guarantee that 2018 investigation, my friend, I think it might be. There we go. Uh, for, I mean, all of our investigations are, when does Alex Jones completely flip on whatever position he has, right? Because he has no consistent ideologies. There's nothing. This is crazy though.

This is crazy. This is nuts. Like to, to, to the extent that he eventually gets into, like, uh, everything bad about Russia's a lie. Putin didn't actually blow up those apartment buildings. He's a great guy. I can't wait to see his take on the Qatar Olympics. I bet he's going to be a huge fan there.

I don't want to just go to all the Olympics. Oh man. It would be interesting, but be that as it may, man, it's fucked up. It is fucked up. He needs to take stuff down. That's, that's ultimately the point of knowledge fight. Yeah. Jesus Christ, Alex, take it down.

Clean. You listen to our show. Yeah. Oh, also I want to give a quick apology. So does Putin by the way. I want to give quick, two, two quick apologies. I really should have done this up top, uh, at the beginning of the show. First one was, uh, on our last episode, we were drinking a little bit.

We misspoke a tiny bit and, uh, one of our listeners, uh, sent me a message about it and she was totally right. Uh, when we were discussing the excess Hollywood tape, uh, of Trump's, uh, we were discussing it in, because we were being kind of loose with our language. It made it sound like we were saying it came out in 2015. Oh yeah. Or that it was recorded in 2015. Right.

Right. And, uh, we were not clear enough about that. And I, we apologized. Yeah. And then secondarily, um, I, I took out that stuff that we talked about, about Daria, uh, Alex's employee Daria on the last episode. Cause I realized I'm about 95% sure of the stuff that I found and other stuff that I've found since then, but I can't a hundred percent stand behind it.

And we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard. So that, that stuff just doesn't belong. And I apologize for jumping on a little bit of unverifiable. So again, Alex, if you're listening, that's the trick. Take it down. Well, there, that's why it triggered it in my drink. So anyway, um, one thing I'm glad he didn't take down is February 23rd, the globalists dude.

So February 23rd is a Sunday. And we know that Alex likes to let it ride on Sundays. Oh yeah. He starts the show, um, by saying that he's joined team Obama. He's being sarcastic, and I thought this would be, uh, this, I thought possibly it was going to be a situation where he, uh, do you remember in, uh, 2015, there was an episode where he pretended to jump the shark. Yes.

Where he was like, all Muslims should be deported. And I'm doing this, I'm doing this satirically. Yeah. I thought he was going to do something like that where he was going to do the entire episode, like I am fully, uh, an Obama guy now and try and do an hour and a half of radio like that. He did not. Now this gets super fun.

And he didn't come after your guns, but that's okay. Even though he lied because he didn't lie and everything is awesome. Everything is wonderful. Everything is good. And the economy is doing great. And Obamacare is obviously wrecking the country and shutting down businesses everywhere and putting people on part time work, but that's okay. They say, just go get on welfare.

That's what they wanted you all the time. Part of the system. So everything is awesome when you're part of a forced labor camp. Everything is awesome in the Soviet Union, Venezuela. Everything is awesome in a collective this nightmare. Everything is awesome, except it's not awesome historically. Nice. So nicely done.

Now that's way to drop the hammer there. That's just good fun. Yes. Now in this next clip, Alex lays out what he wants to do on this episode. And it tickled me to no end. And the way it ends up working out the progression of this episode. I find immensely delightful. And you'll see why at the other end of this clip.

I want people that really disagree. In fact, I just figured out what I want. We're not going to take first time callers or long time callers when I first open the phones up. Today is only people that disagree, at least in the first hour of phone calls from the bottom of the hour to 30 minutes in the next hour. I want to hear from apologists who think I'm wrong and want to tell me how I'm a fraud. Lord knows I'm obnoxious.

Sometimes I'm unlistable in my own view. But what I'm talking about is going on. We're losing liberty. Terrany is growing worldwide. We're going in the wrong direction. We're going into greater debt. We're being dumbed down. We're getting physically more unhealthy.

World government is being set up by select corporations that are not free market or monopolistic. We need to have a major debate about this. I told you, Obamacare had death panels, cut the quality of care, jacked up the prices was written by offshore mafia organizations basically that run the insurance companies. Do I get an apology from all you Obama people that before, during and after we've done this four or five shows, we've given you the floor and you call in and attack me for not liking Obamacare.

So do you want to call in and apologize to me and Ted Cruz and so many others that told the truth or Matt Drudge or anybody that told anybody who could read the bill and actually cared about reality. Do you want to call in apologize? Listen, I don't want you to apologize to me, but you need to have the act of contrition saying you're sorry to the people that you've attacked and lied about. Now we know the state run media is not going to do that. They're going to continue to just say, everything is awesome.

Now you're part of the team. Everything is wonderful. So he starts. So he's going to take calls from people who are going to say, I'm sorry. He, no, no, no, he started the clip by saying, I'm going to take calls from people who disagree with me and he's trying to say about Obamacare. Yes. Then at the end, it's like, also apologize to me.

That took an aggressive turn. Now, here's one problem that Alex Jones has and the reason that he's done multiple episodes like this fruitlessly, which I can't wait to try and find those. He's self selecting from his audience. Right. No one who's intelligent listens to Alex Jones. Like no one who's listening and is like, I'm going to call that guy. He's very smart.

Now, if you want to go a step further, no one who believes in Obama or as believes in left principles and is smart is listening to Alex and is going to call it. Right. He's pretty secure in that. He knows that. Yeah. So he could just put up these challenges and no, like, eh, whatever. Right.

So we'll see if we get any calls, but he, he vamps for a while. He, he complains, why aren't I getting any calls? And it's like, well, because your audience is idiots and all in your cult. And you are getting calls, but you're probably not taking them. So in the, in the meantime, while he's waiting for a call to come through, he gets into a couple of narratives that are kind of fun. Here is the first one and it is about, uh, how a, uh, a democratic, uh, uh, uh, a representative, I believe, uh, by the name of Gary Peters,

representative out of Michigan is trying to get, uh, a, uh, a PSA, an ad taken off the air and Alex think this is a fascistic encroachment on free speech. Sure. So we'll get through it and then we'll see if there's any truth to this. I don't call this liberal. I call it authoritarian. Here is the TV ad called Julie story. My name is Julie Boonstra and five years ago, I was diagnosed with leukemia.

I found out that I only have a 20% chance of survival. I found this wonderful doctor. A great health care plan. I was doing fairly well. And then I received the letter. My insurance was canceled because of Obamacare. Now the out of pocket costs are so high, it's unaffordable. If I do not receive my medication, I will die.

I believed the president. I believed I could keep my health insurance plan. I feel like to. So at this point, the going to commercial music starts, but it's also competing with the PSA music. Yeah. So we're going to go straight to commercial and then just come back on the other end of it because he gets right back to it.

So, uh, it'll go out to break and then come back. It's heartbreaking for me. Congressional Peters, your decision to vote for Obamacare jeopardized my health. It is time to listen to me. It is time to listen to the other American citizens out there. And it's on record. All of this is happening. All right.

The rest of the ads up on info wars.com. And his answer is shut it off. I'm going to get your license pulled. Hey, why don't you move to China punk? Yeah, good. We are back live, but on the air, I drive 170. Thank you so much for joining us on this Sunday edition. You know what?

We didn't play all the ad and because this state rep is threatening to. I want to tell you this. Alex Jones doesn't play the rest of the ad right now, but what he does do is accidentally debunk his own narrative. This is really fascinating to watch. Listen to this shit. Uh, actually us rep is threatening to pull an FCC licenses. If he could even do that.

Now you've got the FCC saying they want to come in and manage news inside even print media, talk about a power grab. Even with the FCC chairman coming out saying it's a bad idea. So they're backing off of it for now. They do the last year as well. We're going to play this again just because he doesn't like it. While Julie Boonstra Dexter, Michigan struggles to survive leukemia. She now has to cope with being called a liar by the Democrat who wants to be her

next senator and the campaign of representative Gary Peters is also going after television stations airing ads in which her story is featured threatening their licenses. That's right. The examiner goes on to report the ad by America's prosperity features. The woman battling leukemia talking about how our insurance was canceled under Obamacare and saying Peter's decision to vote for the law jeopardized my health. No kidding.

They admit it's kicking people off. The ads are airing in Michigan as Peters seeks the Democratic nomination to replace Senator Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan. So he wants to go from the house to the Senate, who is not seeking reelection. Media organizations investigating the ads claim note that she was able to find comparable new insurance under the law. The Washington Post fact checker blog gave the ad a two Pinocchios for Obama. Really?

She didn't get the doctor. She wanted the treatment. She wanted a bunch of bull. The point is you they said you wouldn't lose your doctor and the bill said you wouldn't. Many cases they were liars. People just keep defending this Obamacare, man. Admit you're wrong.

But in response to the local Dexter local leader newspaper, that though she has no idea whether she will break even with a new plan, a fact checker claims the uncertainty of having to restructure her health care while coping with the deadly disease is damaging enough. Yeah, choose your own doctor. That's fundamental. People are asking me for the numbers and I don't know those answers. That's the heartbreak of it all.

And meanwhile, it's reported that he is threatening to have their FCC license pulled. So you want to know some truth? Yes, I do. So that was a commercial. I mean, the one they played the Julie Boone struck. Yes. It was put out by the Americans for Prosperity, which is a group that is

fully funded by the Koch brother. Guess who? So they wonder why they would want to fund anti Obamacare ad. They had a little bit of an issue. So the first ad, they put out one ad and the ad claimed that under Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, her insurance was now unaffordable. Unfortunately, people looked into it and saw the plans that were available in her area and found that her old plan cost $13,200 a year before.

No, no, no, don't tell me that she pays less and other out of pocket expenses. The new plan is $11,952 a year, including co-pays and out of pocket expenses. That's a savings of more than $12,000. That's a savings of more than $1,200 a year. So she actually would not have, it would not have been. But she didn't get to keep her own doctor, Dan. Right. So here's the other thing.

Don't tell me that she was allowed to keep her own doctor. She was. God damn it, Dan. It's just a different plan. What are you talking about? It's just a different plan. So she would have been allowed to keep her own doctor and saved money. According to fact checkers who looked at the available plans that were

available under the Affordable Care Act, it would have been a slight hassle in order to shift your plans and what have you. But it's not that big a deal. It would have saved $1,200 doing it. All right. So the other thing is. So she should probably have done that. So here's the other problem with it.

Is the first ad claimed that it was unaffordable. Then these fact checkers looked at it and found it doesn't make sense that you would be claiming that it's unaffordable. So they made a new ad that said the new plan doesn't work for her, which is completely subjective. Right. And in no way it just proved because they knew, oh shit, we just lied. Yeah, we just like affordable.

Yeah, we just maybe she didn't look into it or whatever. So Gary Peters wanted to give people to stop airing the ads, not because of some bias and some like praise Obama thing, but because they probably broke the Federal Trade Commission rules and I'll just quote, if an advertisement such as this is likely to mislead consumers acting reasonably under the circumstances and is material that is important to a consumer's decision to buy or use the product, particularly when applied to ads that make claims about health or safety, that ad is in violation of federal law.

So you're saying that if she were to go on TV and claim that because the price of Cheerios went up, she is no longer able to afford health care. That would be the same thing as what she's doing right now. That would be lying directly in order to influence people's health decisions. Yes. Now, that is such a perfect example of the entire Republican system, like they even got her to record an ad that was against her own interests by believing in the lies that they told her.

The very Republican system is against the FTC Commission or the FCC rules. Yep. Absolutely. Um, so also, by the way, by the way, can we revoke all Republicans TV? Also, also, by the way, Julie Boonstra was once married to Mark Boonstra, a former chair of the Washtenaw County Republican Party. Nay Richards. That's right.

Mark Richards changed his name. Raptors. To Mark Boonstra. Could be. He astral projected himself into that area. There's really no other alternative. No, I think that's the truth. I think we figured that out.

I'm going to skip this next clip because we've kind of gone over it before. Alex just complains that all Democrats are racist and, uh, it's like, they're the party of racism. I imagine he brings up the fact that Southern Democrats prior to the Civil Rights Act were racist. Um, well, no, he just says that they couldn't compete in the South. And so they started to race bait as opposed to all of these Southern Democrats like Strom Thurmond went over to the Republican side because

Democrat, uh, that's the Democratic side was becoming much more progressive. Yeah. Um, I can't even remember what the name of the thing is that, uh, that, uh, pledge that Strom Thurmond tried to get people to sign, uh, the exclusionary pledge. Oh, yeah. Yeah. After the be a racist forever pledge.

After, uh, schools got integrated the, uh, the whole like, uh, we're not going to go along with this shit. Nope. Uh, and then he's like, and that kind of didn't work. And then a bunch of those people who signed that went over to the Republican party. Yeah. So it's all, it's all allowed to be, which, which, uh, tacitly signed the,

we're going to be racist forever agreement. Right. So in the, here we go. Let's get into it because finally Alex gets some calls and man, I'll tell you what, these are great. Okay. This is, this is going to be one of my favorite things. You got to just let this play though.

Okay. Don't, don't be interrupting Mike down. All right. Those who are about to die salute you. Well, I'm about to be destroyed by these powerful intellects that are calling in to tell, to defend Obamacare. And so drum roll please out of the gates is David from Louisiana. David, welcome.

Thank you for calling. You know, he's probably, oh, oh, hello, Alex. Hi, go ahead. I missed the first thing you said you're on the air. Oh, okay. You say that Obama's bad and all that. I get some of his military policy, but this, this, uh, carbon thing, uh, uh, carbon dioxide isn't all too bad, but just because it gets cold here doesn't mean that

the earth is not warming. You've seen in Russia, record high temperatures for very long times. We haven't had freezes here in, uh, I mean, that's at least a week. We added freezes in least a week. You're right. It's terrible. But, but before it'd be frozen, uh, most of the time you look at the temperatures. There's actually, sir, that's not what all the ice core samples show.

NASA even admits the earth's been cooling for 17 years now. The sun's the main driver. Look, how does shutting down our power plants here that put out nothing but carbon dioxide and water and shipping the jobs to China. They open three new plants a week. We close three a week on average. How does doing that save the earth? If it's all one atmosphere, all in one atmosphere, you don't understand what I

just said that they're shipping the, the plants to Mexico and China. We would, Texas has shut down dozens of plants and they've opened them in Mexico, totally dirty, shooting all the toxins into the air, the particular, the mercury, everything, no scrubbers. All, you know what a scrubber is on a, on a coal power plant? Uh, maybe. Maybe. Okay.

Well, if you go to China, it's just the power plant and a, and a smoke stack. You go here. There's all these big buildings built off. They send it all through the distillation. Nothing comes out, but water and carbon dioxide. We get half our power from coal or we did shutting that down as economic warfare. How is paying Al Gore a carbon tax? He's part of the company that globally gets the money.

How does that save the earth, sir? Well, I, I guess it doesn't. You really are an Obama supporter, aren't you? Oh, well, yeah, I mean, we need some better access to healthcare. Let me ask you a question. When did you have the, when did you have the brain injury? And I'm not making fun of folks here. I'm serious.

You sound like you, you in a bad car wreck. No, no, I'm not in a bad car. How did you hurt your head? You've had brain surgery, haven't you? What's wrong with you? No, I haven't had brain surgery. I've just been under a lot of fluoride. I've been looking this stuff up, but I don't see German psychologists.

I don't see Russian psychology. I saw John Holdren saying that it would be a nice idea to reduce population, but I didn't see him actually. So everything is awesome. Everything is cool when you're part of the team. All right. I appreciate your call, man. I just don't know what to say anymore.

So that's the first call. That call was, uh, that was fun. I, when I said, I did not find that fun. I love this version of Alex because I think that there is another reality wherein Alex, if he just could break free from the stupid ideology that he lives in and he just started going off on his callers, it would be amazing. Cause his callers are dumb. Right.

Trained them to be really stupid and just believe whatever he says. I pivot the narrative this way. You come along with me. There is just a herd mentality among them. So when someone calls in who kind of disagrees with them a little bit about something, they're fucking stupid. He could dance all over their face, even though he's lying too. Right.

But I like the idea because I don't like his callers either. I like the idea that he's abusing them. It's great. He's being such an asshole. He is being an asshole. I don't find that fun. I don't like his, I don't like his assholery being turned loose on real human beings. I will say that I like it to be diffused amongst all of his listeners, as opposed

to the full force of it funneled onto one poor man from injury. The next call is not as fun. What a dick. The next call is such a dick. His asshole-ishness in the next call is not nearly as fun. Because it's, you'll see why it's very misogynistic and it's still, it's still like it's unbelievable on some levels. But it, that was like watching a, an unarmed man get defeated by a guy with

an imaginary sword. But at the same time that one like, like he just got convinced that that sword is real and he's like, I can't, I can't fight this sword. Oh no, it's not, it's not real, dude. The one armed dude is still an info warrior though. That's a good point. I love that. So I guess I'm just under a lot of flow ride.

So also the idea that scrubbers do all that much. No, it's just like a few guys, they scrub it. No, I mean, they're all the cold. When it comes out, they're like, scrub it up. Scrubbers are a real thing and they can reduce to some extent. No, I, I know the, the, the airborne pollution can get rid of some of it. But one side effect of scrubbing is the process only removes unwanted substance from the exhaust gases.

It turns them into a liquid solution, solid paste or powder form. This must be disposed of safely if it cannot be reused, which generally it cannot like mercury, you just end up running the risk of getting a bunch of toxic mercury that you've got to put in a landfill somewhere. It's all water. Right. Alex's, Alex's concept of clean coal is just completely way off. And he's pretending that, you know, like even just being able to say scrubbers,

he's able to stump this idiot who's on the phone, but he's not able to. I'm seeing this on the, on the message board that everyone thinks this is a fake call. I don't think so. No, I think that, I think that guy was kind of dumb. I get, I get the sense that now it could be just our prejudice that somebody with a Southern accent like that being wrong is like, you're an idiot. But I think he probably could have, I think he had some other things that

were reasonable to say, reasonable points to bring up, like the frosts not coming as, as frequently as they used to the idea that John P. Holdren, his textbook doesn't say what Alex says. It says, if he wasn't getting talked over and screamed at by Alex, he would have been able to say some things that wouldn't have been stupid. Right. Alex made him into a stupid person through the way he bullied rhetoric. Yeah.

Yeah. Which is, which is why he's like, why won't anybody call into baby? It's cause you act like that. That's why I would never call in. I could, I could, you know, bring up things that, uh, no, you guys, I do not think it's fake. It would only, we can only confirm it's fake. Whenever somebody says, well, first off, I really love super male vitality or anybody who plugs his, his shit, we're like, this is bullshit.

I think that it's even worse cause I heard a call the other day where the guy was like, let me tell you, your shirts are great. It's weird. Your shirts are great. So now we get to the next call. They're made of a wonderful fabric. It's all right on American cotton. It's, it's picked by, wait, I don't want to reveal.

So in the, in this next clip, this is not the fun version of Alex being a dick. But man, man, is he a dick. Okay. Carrie in Texas, you're on the air. Go ahead. Hi, Alex. Thank you. Listen, Obama goes along to get along and the reason I wanted him to win.

That was a little disrespectful. You addressed him like Jamie Foxx addresses him. Go ahead. I don't know how that is. You know how he says it. I'm not real political, Alex. I just know what I know for myself and I'm going to share that. He goes along to get along and that's why he's in power.

If they didn't want him in power, the real oligarchies that run the show, they would not have him in there. They, they, you know, Ron Paul, they shut out because he said it like it was. Perot, they threatened his family and pro said, I can't fight this. I'm going to have to withdraw from the race. He was lying about that. Well, he never got to say it all. Did he, you know?

So what's your bottom line on Obama? My bottom line on Obama is it could be so much worse if it had been somebody else. He is willing to walk the tightrope and try to balance what, what the people can live with and, and what the oligarchies, what they now call the C.E. oligarchies. This sounds like mass Stockholm syndrome or you're like, oh, he, you know, he's the abuser, but he's trying to take care of me. Oh my gosh, stay there.

I'm going to come back to you in 60 seconds, second hour coming up. So he's not as mean yet, but he does suggest that she has Stockholm syndrome, which is really funny considering how much he does for Trump now with the like, look, he's, he's, look, he's not perfect. Right. He's not perfect, but he's the only one who can save us. As uninformed as that lady was, I kind of like her take. I think she had a good take for in info.

What was called her? That was an amazing solid take. That was a solid take. The idea that he is a compromise. Yeah. And the idea that, uh, if, you know, if the powers that be didn't want him to be in power, he wouldn't be in power. I mean, that's a little paranoid and conspiracy theory.

I kind of, I, I think all of the, uh, all of the available evidence would support her take. I buy, I'm, I want her to be president. All right. She shall be, but before she does that, she's got a, or at least a columnist for the wall street journal. She would crush it. Here we go.

We're coming back from the commercial break. We'll see if he goes back to her. He does. And he, thanks for, thanks for ruining the mystery, Dan. He does meet you, let's see if he goes back to her. He does. And he's so abusive. Okay.

This is gross. Put the mic down. Okay. We are talking to those that have chosen Obama and I was fine. It's like some fascination. Like, I think he's secretly trying to help me and that's why they put him in there is because he's more effective and making you think he's being reasonable while he slits your collective throat.

I mean, let's go to Sherri in Texas. Sherri, you've got the floor. Tell me about the man known as Cupcake Sweetie Pie, Obama. Well, I don't think he's, um, I don't, I don't think he wants to, he's slimy or mean. I think he just was willing to go along with, with those who are really running the show. Well, obviously he's a puppet. We're talking about the, let me tell you how attracted are you right now to Obama?

How much do you like Obama? What's going on right now? Well, what's going on right now is that the, the people who are really in power, the oligarchies, okay? That's all, that's, that's a good word for them. I guess they run the show. They're, they're the corporations. They want to lead the people in the direction that they want them to go, which

means they want them to vote for someone like, like Romney or, or Bush. No, they gave more money to Romney. They want, they want, no, they want it. They want whoever's the most effective Besser. Look, the establishment, the media, the establishment owns the big media, the dinosaur media, they want Obama. They'd let him get away with stuff 50 times what Nixon did, because he's a darling cupcake.

No, I don't think so. I think, I think the insurance, I think you, I think you have a fetish for Obama. You've had it since he first ran. You won't admit you've been conned. Admit right now you like Obama. All I know is that the insurers who are in the business of denying claims. What would you do if Obama wanted to take you? Pardon me?

If Obama wanted to take you out of the day, what would you do? Oh, come on, I'm not going to lead, let you lead me in that direction now, Alex. I can hear your voice right now. He's not, he, he's the only one, he, the people wanted him. They tried to keep him out. You want him? Jeb Bush did. He tried to get the whole.

Hey, just because Jeb Bush is bad doesn't make Obama good. Don't you understand that? Obama is keeping us out of the war. You know how weary we are of war after these last eight years? And only our loving leader could expand them. He, he just put his foot down on that issue and he didn't write Obama here. They just let someone. What is your nickname for him?

What is your nickname for Obama? My nickname for Obama, um, someone who wouldn't lead us into war. Sweet C cake. Let me ask you this question. No, I get it. I understand like like Bush was so bad on and I even thought Bush was so bad. I was kind of neutral on Obama and McCain. The McCain's so bad that I thought maybe they were going to try to have

reconciliation because of the country's on the edge of rebellion. Instead, they brought him in and just Obama is one of the few things I was wrong about because I thought he was bad. I thought it was going to be bad, but all these people that I respect even more now said, no, he's going to be real bad and you're wrong. Alex has been wrong about way more. I've got to apologize. Been wrong about, I am rarely wrong about big issues and talk shows aren't

supposed to say they've been wrong. I have underestimated the level of evil because he's got this, the spiritual shield of fraud around him. But once you get around that, my dear, believe me, he's the worst thing we've ever been hit by and he's a closer like, you know, in the ninth inning in baseball, they're trying to close things right now. And he's real bad. He's real bad that the Patriot act come from Alex.

It didn't come on Obama. It was bipartisan and Obama expanded it. Well, the NDA makes the Patriot act look like a gift of liberty. We need to identify the true enemy to solve the problem. And Obama's not the true enemy. He is a pawn, like you said yourself. Oh, he's a luscious cupcake. He is just trying to keep us out of war.

If Obama was a cupcake, what type of cupcake would he be? Is the real question. Okay, whatever. Seriously, what kind of cupcake, what kind of cupcake would he be? I'm not going to say, Alex, because I don't go. I'm not in that because I can see a thought bubble right now. You see Obama equals cupcake. All right, I'm going to stop being silly.

I appreciate your call. That was no, you were not being silly. You were being a fucking piece of shit. That was amazing. Wow. That was amazing. I have never seen anybody be that dismissive of a woman in front of me. That I'm sure it happens all the time, all the time.

He thinks he's way worse than that. He thinks he's a fucking man cow. Yeah, what is he doing? God, and I like her. I think I think she's the smartest info worse caller I've ever heard. And she handles herself quite well while he's being abusive. No, she was awesome. Yeah, being like, I'm not going to go down that road with you.

Not being like, I'm a fan of her dumb ass. I'm a fan of hers. But at the same, I mean, he's that's, he wouldn't say those things to a guy. Of course not. That's so belittling and he wouldn't engage with any of her arguments, except for the ones that he already has preloaded lines ready to go for with the NDA. Yeah, sure.

I went in 2007 was a mess and then it was undone in 2008. Yeah. So also, let's not forget that Nick Nixon sabotage peace talks in order to win an election, right? Thereby extending a war four more years than it needed to go, getting thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people killed who did not need to be killed. Right. All of the crimes, Nixon.

Like, wait, wait, does one of Alex's associates have a tattoo of that guy? I can't think of. No, I can't think of it. What we got Nixon on was nothing compared to the crimes that he committed. It's a component situation. Nixon was fucked. Yeah, Nixon was fucked. Yeah.

So George W. Bush was worse. I wanted to play that whole clip uninterrupted because like it's just she handles herself with class and a plum. Yeah. And then you have Alex being just like, you hot for Obama? She crushed him. He's a horrible person. Yeah.

He's a piece of shit. Yeah. And he's a terrible debater. Like he can't engage with any of her points. So the only thing he can go to is, oh, you want to fuck him? Maybe that's why he glommed on to Trump so much is because that's essentially Trump's debating style. Just misogyny.

Yeah. Just and attacks that you saw, you saw the, you saw the presidential debates. Yeah. So we get to this. And by the way, so now you're the, you're the one who's the stooge. You're the, you're the, no puppet. You're the puppet. No puppet.

You're the puppet. If you were, if you could call Putin a cupcake, what would you call? Yeah. Why not just like even engage in that? No, he said, he said, oh, that's his, that's his, your sheep kind of thing. He's so shitty at this. And she doesn't even seem to like Obama that much. No.

She's, she's like, you know, I know you're complaining about Obama, but the real issue is the oligarchy. And I'm like, fuck yeah, lady, you're right on it. And she didn't call them globalists. No. She called it the CEO. The oligarchy. Yeah.

Yeah. Much more reasonable and doesn't have the. Not as catchy as she thinks it is, but it's still pretty good. It doesn't have all the archaic anti-Semitism with the blood, Bible and shit that the globalists have attached to. No, essentially her argument was a unchecked capitalism is bad. Right. But she wouldn't dare say something like that.

No, no, no, no. Dojo. No. So, uh, he does get another caller. Yeah. And I have, uh, this one's a bit more fun because this guy's just dumb and Alex tees off on him. Okay.

And it's, we don't have to feel bad about him being a piece of shit because someone's a woman and we can like not, and not just because he's being me into a woman, he's being mean in specific ways because she's a woman. Yeah, exactly. That's what, uh, to be more specific about. For somebody who is so fake obsessed with being honorable and treating women appropriately, uh, yeah, you're not, you're not good at it. If maybe you should treat him as people.

If Sherry had been saying a bunch of really stupid stuff and he started yelling at her and calling her an idiot, that's the same way he's treating all these dudes and that would be like, Hey, all right. Instead of like, Hey, you want to fuck Obama, don't you? Come on. You want to fuck Obama? That's all it is. You're not a human being with thoughts or feelings.

You're just thinking with your fuck stick. She doesn't wet like Megan Kelly is for Putin. Yep. Um, yeah. And so like this, uh, this one is just a guy who's stupid and Alex gets mad at him and it's real fun. Okay. Ted in Tennessee.

Come on down. Tell me how I'm wrong. Go ahead. All right, Alex, are you really ready for this? Come on. Oh, yes. I'm going to cut you off. Okay.

Now, Obamacare, you got to look at is very simple. There's 310 million people that don't get a vote in anything. Those are the people that have a health insurance policy that's provided by their employer. You have another 26 to 40 million people who don't get a vote in anything. So at this point, how many, how many, how many people does he think are actually in this country? We're going to get to that.

But Alex, at this point, while the guy is still talking, Alex is darting his eyes around the room like, is this guy fucking with me? Are you guys fucking with me? Are you guys here in this? 310 million people have insurance through their employer. You don't have to include babies, but that would have to include all the babies. So, uh, but like, that's why Alex hasn't butted in yet. Cause he's like, let's, let's let this ride.

What the fuck? I want to hear what math we've got going on here. Anything. Those are the people that are, did you say 315 million people have healthcare provided by their employer? Pardon? There aren't 315. You say there are 310 million people that have health insurance provided by

their employer. No, they're not. There's 315 million people in the whole country. There's about a hundred million. Put him on hold. I can't listen to this. This people are so dumb. Listen, there's about 110 million people that have healthcare provided by their

employer and they pay for it. It didn't free. There's 315 million people in the country counting 25 million that are illegal aliens. All right. That's the census. Go, go back to him. I'm not, I'm not trying to be mean.

Go ahead and make your point. Okay. There's 310 million people that have health insurance provided by their employer. No, there's not. No, there's not. No, there's not. No, there's not. No, there's not.

No, there's not. No, there's not. No, there's not. 98% of the American people are not covered by their employers with health insurance. That is BS, man. There's 35 million uninsured in the country. It's between one and 3% that cannot be accounted for.

Those are between three and nine million people, which has been expended to 15. They cut in half is 7.5 million. That's what they want to put on the, on the, uh, uh, Affordable Health Care Act. Are we ready to talk about this thing? Sir, do you understand that the insurance companies wrote the plan, the big ones to shut down their competition and jackup prices? You have a ticket that says you're going to win a 31 odds. First of all, I love that moment where he's like,

I'm, I'm fascinated by this dude's math. Cause Alex is pissed off at like all these numbers, meaning nothing. So he throws out that insurance company that he, uh, that's one of his normal things. Right. And then the guy being like, you have a card with 30 to one odds. There's, you can see in his face, like he's so fucking over it. But then they're like,

I'm like, all right, all right, let's see where this goes. There's like 15 seconds left of this. And the way he ends the call is the fucking funniest thing ever. And then you go and buy the health that, uh, horse scare ticket. But if everybody in the stands, both four or takes that same bet, that bet's going to go down to one for one. You're totally helpless. For once, Alex, you and I agree unequivocally.

No, no fucking strings attached. Alex, you and I are 100% on board together. I don't know what horse care means. I get it. Horse care. That if you get injured, you get shot. If you get injured, they put you down. So he's not actually a fan of Obamacare.

He's not a, he's not a fan of Obamacare. Doesn't seem like he is. No, he's not a fan of math, but then like, man, Alex cannot like roughly one to 3% cannot be accounted for. Now that's three to nine million. You're helpless. Call that 15 million, cut it in half. That's 7.5 million.

Oh God, this is that makes me laugh so hard. I will remember that sentence until I die. I love when all is lost except for D'Angelo songs. And that sentence, I will die. I love this Alex so much. Like the Alex who's right there. He's on the cusp of being like, what the fuck have I done? Yeah.

But he doesn't have to do that because he's presenting it as these callers are Obama supporters, right? Not his listeners. Right. They're his listeners. Most of them don't support Obama. Right. That last caller didn't share who he abused for being a woman.

She didn't really support Obama either. No. The first guy unclear what he was talking about because Alex kept turning him into an idiot. Yeah. Like it was unclear what his position was, but he did say he supported Obama. So it's one out of three at this point have been Obama supporters. But all three have been Alex Jones listeners.

Okay, pitch. Here's our new show. We turn Alex into a force for good where an Alex does nothing but take calls and just shits all over his listeners. I would love that if that like, because I don't necessarily think he deserves some sort of horrible punishment for the things he's done. But I think it was, I think that's a solid penance. I think it would be fun to make him like be a part of the private prison

industry, like, because he should go to jail. So put him in one of these private prisons and he can work for a dollar a day taking phone calls from his dumb ass listeners and we can listen to it. He gets a dollar every phone call he takes. Yeah, exactly. But the phone calls have to be at least three minutes. Right. Yes.

Yeah. There has to be restrictions on that. And he lets the caller expound on whatever they want, whatever they want. Just watch him get so mad. He has to listen to it. What have I done? It's like he's close to that moment, but he never gets there. We spent so long asking if we could.

We didn't ask if we should. So he gets another call from a guy who doesn't like Obama and actually just wants to hook him up with a Sandy Hook researcher. Okay. And so here's the end of that call. So it looks real bad. I agree with you. We need to get him on.

Yeah, he needs exposure. Do you have his contact info? Yes. His voicemail is full. Hold on. I'm going to put you on hold. See, the listeners can get these people. And why I want him on about Sandy Hook.

Get the number right now. We'll get him on. Yeah. No, he's investigating up in Connecticut and they're after him and they're threatening him and they're trying to block any release. Just let me tell you something. Sandy Hook stage. Give me his number.

So Sandy Hook was stage. Sandy Hook was stage. He did not, uh, not once again, he did not start a debate. No, there was not a debate. He's just straight up. It was staged. So, um, in the, in the, in the interest of fairness, uh, I don't have all the calls that he took because a couple of them were completely nonsensical.

Like one of them, as opposed to 310 million, one, that one wasn't completely nonsensical. One of them, uh, so there were two, I, uh, I cut out actually three. Cause one is a guy calling about how socialized medicine works. And he's like, Canada is great. What about, uh, you know, these Nordic countries, they seem to, they don't seem to be doing all right and they don't have any, uh, total difference from us. And he's like, well, they have higher morals. So like, uh, you're just saying more white.

That's probably what you're saying about, uh, the, I think that's what he's getting at. But it, the call was too short and it was, it wasn't, it wasn't a good argument and Alex just sort of ducks. Yeah. So, um, then there's just two other people who don't really like Obama at all. And they just wanted, just wanted to be on the show. Just want to talk to him. Yeah.

So, um, but we have one more call to listen to, uh, and man, man, oh man. Alex thinks this guy disagrees with him about Obama. Disagrees about, uh, about something else. And it's weird. Okay. David Neruzano, go ahead. You're on the air. Uh, yes, Alex.

Thank you. I disagree with you in several ways. Uh, before I get to one of those, I noticed that you, uh, challenged peers Morgan to a bare knuckles match. And you also challenged the, uh, two cops that killed Kelly Thomas. And yeah, they think they're so tough. I'll get bare knuckles in Las Vegas, in a ring with them. I'm not kidding.

I'll take you, I'll take you. I'll take that challenge and, and, uh, are you one of those people? No, I'm not one of those people. But I'll stand in for them. I'll take it. Well, that wouldn't get any promotion or making any money for charity. So now, much like when that guy said there's 310 people, uh, 10 million people in America who, uh, have insurance to their employers.

Alex was looking around the room like, what the fuck is going on? Are these people, this guy's calling. I said, I wanted to fight those three, but do you understand? It's for press. I don't actually want to fight these people. Yeah. It's the same thing he did with Cernovich. Or Cernovich and Tom Arnold, the whole thing.

Tom Arnold would have beat the shit out of him. And, uh, that, uh, Cernovich and Tom Arnold fight lumped in Alex Jones a bit and the two of them were both, uh, cowards and backed out. Alex wouldn't have followed through even fighting Piers Morgan, probably. Uh, but, which he should have done. Everybody would have loved seeing both of them get their asses beat. Yeah. But this, this caller is, I like the spirit of it.

Just being like, I'll fight you. I don't give a shit. Yeah. That's sort of, no, we're up to a good start, but, uh, Alex's confusion is merited. I think I've got, if you called in and okay, so you know, I agree with a lot about saying you want to beat me up. I'll do it.

No, no, no. I bet that's okay. If you don't want to, if you don't want to fight me, that's okay. But I'm scared of, yeah, I'm scared. I disagree. I disagree with you in several ways. First of all, you talk about Jesus and you say that you're a Christian. Jesus dictated the solution to the problem that we're in, in the

book of revelation throughout the whole Bible, really, but in revelation, he boils it down to three verses. Okay. In revelation 13, he tells us very clearly that the papacy is the first beast of revelation 13. The papacy is responsible. Didn't it just happen? 150 million deaths and it's 1,260 year reign.

Okay. Now at revelation 13 says that the second beast will have all the power of the first beast. Caller, here's my issue with you. I said, call in and defend Obamacare. So I want to be clear. Uh, that's what he did say at the beginning of the show. And then halfway through, he's like, uh, let's, uh, if you just

disagree with me about anything, cause I'm not, not enough people were calling in. Right. So anyway, he's trying to pretend there's like, I just wanted to talk about Obamacare when he's lying. Let's get into some revelations. And you lied. You didn't call in to defend Obamacare. You want to beat my brains out because I'm not anti-Catholic.

Let's just be honest about it. You wanted people to disagree across the board and that's what I am. I guess later I said the next wave. Okay. So, and you believe I secretly am a Catholic priest, right? No, I don't. I think I sprout wings at night like the bat and let me go ahead. You were hiding the solution.

The solution is in Revelation 13. We're not supposed to use a name or a number. I'm hiding it. So yeah. Yeah, you're hiding it because are you still paying taxes? Yes, you are. Are you going to take taxes from your employees? Well, that is the literal render on to Caesar.

Like who's on this coin? It's Caesar. This is that. This is that system. And I, and I say it's the mafia and the private Federal Reserve. I am preparing taxes to our real federal government, not to the private Federal Reserve, but I choose my battles. And I don't tell my listeners, don't go pay income taxes when they can end up

being put in prison. I don't give people advice that I wouldn't do myself. If they were going to, Jesus says they will put you in jail for following Jesus. I'm saying follow Jesus. Yes. Jesus said they will put you in jail. You said, how will you judge them by their fruit? If the government will put you in jail for not worshiping the government.

Jesus tells you that's exactly what they're doing. The guy, I mean, I was having fun for a second there. And then I, I got very bored very quickly. Oh, absolutely. The guy is, is Looney Tunes. But at the same time, his logic is much better than Alex's because it is. Jesus does say that you will be persecuted for following me. That sort of thing.

And Alex all the time says, you'll know a tree by its fruits. He quotes that all the fucking time. He used it as one of the greatest justifications why he supports Trump. And so the idea you want to talk about saying, I would never tell my listeners to not pay taxes. You have many times had the son of a guy who said, don't pay taxes. Yeah. Yeah.

And talked about how Irwin Schiff, you're referring to Peter Schiff, his son, who's on the show all the time, is like a political prisoner and a martyr. And he was murdered by the state. If you believe those things, then you have to believe that you shouldn't pay your taxes. Right. And the idea that you don't tell your audience to do things that you don't do yourself horseshit horseshit.

So anyway, yeah, Alex, you don't buy any of your own products. I have one more clip. But before we get to it, I completely forgot to play the out of context drop. Soon, I'm going to take my shirt off, folks. Now is a great time for that. That is Alex Jones' most accurate prediction today. That is great. Pretty soon.

I'm going to take my shirt off. So this is the last clip that we have. This is after Alex is done talking to these really frustrating callers. His assessment is a little weak, but here you go. Coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin is the final segment. And how depressing talking to Obama supporters. They want to beat me up on the secret Vatican operator. Obama's going to save us.

I mean, this is a real headache. Oh, poor guy. So in that, he just misrepresented the callers we just listened to. Yep. The guy didn't say he was a secret Vatican operator. No, the guy didn't say he wanted to beat him up. He was like, yeah, you were looking to fight and fight and fight. I'll stand in one of those people.

I'll fight you. And none of them really said that Obama would save us. And all of them were all of them save for our bright star of the evening. We're stupid. Yes. Or I think that the actually that guy talking about the religious stuff, he probably was pretty smart, but he's nuts. I disagree.

I think there's probably high functioning brain power there, but he's not. Oh, okay. That one of those sort of sort of things. I think there's a, okay, because he is using decent logic, using pieces of Alex's mythology and religion as he understands it. That's not necessarily stupid as much as it is misguided. Let's agree to disagree on this one. Okay.

Here's my, here's my posit to you. Imagine our, imagine our heroic woman saying to Alex, let me talk. Hmm. Now, whenever crazy dude said it, Alex, shut up. Alex had a good five seconds where he let him talk and he just kind of shut down. Of course. If she had done that, would he have done the same thing? He would have freaked out, right?

Yeah. He would have left the studio. Yeah. He would have been like, I won't let her allow a woman to talk to me this way. I'm guessing it's a side effect of super male vitality, you know, some sort of thing where it's like, you know, I just, I think that let's, I think that lets him off the hook. I can't get talked to by women like that.

I think that's a, of course. He's a super misogynist. Yeah. Um, everyone wants to hear the daddy shark clip in the chat room. Well, then donate. Well, there's that. That's one option. I'm just, I'm not doing that.

Um, if you vamp for a second, I'll find it. But also if you guys, um, if you guys want to send an email, let's get into the real meaning of revelations. If you guys, since it is Christmas week, what I want to talk about is okay. If you guys want to send an email to knowledgefightatgmail.com, I can send you the MP3 of it so you can have it for yourself, but I shouldn't do that. I should sell that. Yeah.

We have to sell that as a ringtone. Are you shitting me? I don't know, man. Look, I don't, I don't have the, I don't have the wherewithal or the willpower to be like, I'm going to hold this hostage. Also, I don't think we can sell it. There's a definitely some copyright issues there. I'm going to give a shit.

Alex doesn't respect map agreements. All right, fair enough. Yeah. I guess I can't really sell it. So here you go. You know, they got baby shark. They got mama shark beat beat beat beat beat daddy shark. So anyway, if you want a copy of that email to knowledgefightatgmail.com also

just our website, knowledgefight.com is where you can find all sorts of stuff. All of this, this year I've been thinking about it, dude. We've done like 120 episodes of this show. We've recorded 250, 300 hours of content. Probably. And that reflects. We've written thousands upon thousands upon thousands of words. And that reflects like, well, even just the 300 hours of recording, let's say

that reflects 600 hours of editing and research and those sorts of things. Right. Consider that adds together to be about 900 hours of work over the course of the year. That's 40 hours a week. Is that 40 hours a week? It might be four hours. That's about 40 hours a week, isn't it? I don't know how to do math.

50, let's say there's 50 weeks in a year. 900 divided by 50. That's 40. It's like six. It's not six. No, it's 18. I don't know how to do math. Anyway, it's a lot.

It's a lot. No, the point being that you work full time. God damn it. But that's not even the point I wanted to get it. I was reflecting how much time we've taken and how much we've jumped in and delved through these sickening waters. And no matter how much, you know, there's there's always going to be the part of us that's like, oh, not enough people are paying attention.

But the fact that that's my secondary thought is there are a number of people who've listened to us talk about Jones for 300 hours in the last year. And it's crazy to me. And I really appreciate it. We're pretending this is going to be the last episode of the year now, but might not be a browsily. Yeah. Who knows?

I don't know if we can go a week and a half without doing an episode. Now, now there's a certain part of it that's like, I get an itch if we haven't recorded long enough. Sure. Sure. Uh, don't give people my address far out. Um, so, uh, before this chat room, give them his phone number. God damn it.

Before this chat room devolves into doxing of me. I just thank you very much, uh, to everybody who listens and to everybody who sports the show and donates. I mean, it makes a huge difference and, uh, it, it, I never would have thought that anyone would give a fuck about this show. I thought we'd be doing it for nobody and granted. We're not doing it for as many people. But we're still way more than I expected.

Yeah. And, uh, thank you so much. Don't give up my address, Nick. We love you all so very much. Except for Nick and far out, Nick and far out of God. We're going to dox mate. Um, also just a fair warning next year, we will be retiring the Sasha Banks theme song as the intro music to the show for, uh, the live streams.

Uh, and I have a new song we'll be debuting. Uh, so, uh, just a shout out to the legit boss, big ups. Thanks for, uh, taking us along on this ride. Uh, we just, you know, gotta, you know, 2018 got to come with the new. All right. Also, uh, burn down rich people's homes. You sure? What?

Huh? So we should probably get rid of this, uh, fuck you, John Rappaport thing. You know, we should. That's got to be retired. Either that or we got to re up on hating him. We haven't listened to John Rappaport for like four or six months. Don't fucking say we. I was talking about me and the listeners.

I've listened to him and it's just still boring. Yeah. Um, I don't know. We'll have to reflect on that. Maybe we'll choose a new info wars personality to really hate in the John Rappaport. Maybe we'll go to Mark Dice or something like that. I don't want to hear his voice.

No, that's true. It's difficult. Now I'm kind of in on hating Jerome Corsi listening to his voice makes me want to kill him. Okay. Maybe we'll do a deep politically. Maybe we'll look into Jerome Corsi a little bit closer and, and every show it's telling him to fuck himself.

I don't know. I think he can go fuck himself. Certainly. But for now, at least, and he's far enough away that we know he won't challenge us to a fight. I also want Twitter. No, no, don't just go fight. We're on Facebook.

We're on iTunes. Uh, all of those sorts of things. We thank you for subscribing and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Go to the website, click, support the show, etc. Yep. For now, though, uh, as it is still 2017, it is our want, uh, to be able to say John Rappaport, uh, go fly a kite.

First of all, go suck a lemon. I think that's an expression. Can't fly a kite whilst sucking a lemon. No, he can't fly a kite. He's not allowed to leave that attic. I have no proof he has legs. Only seeing him sitting down, uh, which actually is probably true for some of our listeners, viewers, you at least have a wider angle where people can

see your legs. Yeah. I may be, I don't have legs. Who knows? All right, dad. Maybe me and John Rappaport have that in common. And if that is the case, you're getting rambly at the end of this episode. I feel that he's getting a little rambling job of representing us possibly

legless people. Trying to, I will say John Rappaport, please go fuck yourself. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a person color, I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.