Knowledge Fight - #1133: April 3, 2026

Episode Date: April 10, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan brace for impact as Alex goes deep on the origins of the human species, pitches the idea that Trump may have dementia, and discusses the time he might have seen som...e vampire Men In Black in Washington DC.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 I know, no, no, no, no, knowledge fight. Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating. Fight.com. It's down to pray. I have great respect for knowledge fight. Knowledge fight. I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. Knowledge fight.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. Be money. Time to pray. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I'm a first-time call. I'm a huge fan. I love your word. Knowledge Fight Knowledge Fight.com I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around. We're just with the altar of Sleen and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are. Dan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? My bright spot today, probably unexpected. Okay. And this is a little bit, you know, off a, hey, it's a little weird. Sure. You got, you stepped in it, my man. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:01:23 What did I step in? So much feedback about the dark side of the moon thing. So many people messaging them to like, I can't believe Jordan doesn't know about the... I understand the concept. I just think of it as the far side of the moon. I don't really... I don't even really... I don't...
Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm not that interested in space, honestly. I just accepted the way you were framing it. Right, right, right. No, I like space. I understand the concept. People are coming at you. I get it. This was Chumba Wamba level.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm trapped in this situation, right, where it's like, no matter what I do, is terrible. Because I could be like, ah, I knew it about, or I could be like, it was a joke that failed. And then the real problem is that I suck, right, at doing the joke part. Or I could be like, you know what? Yeah, I'm fucking dumb. How about that? How about that, motherfuckers? I'm stupid.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And see, this is why it's a nice bright spot because I'm kind of stupid, too. I didn't in the moment feel like I had the come. for it to be like, hold on, Jordan, that's dumb. So we can, you know, it's a nice reminder that we all can be dumb about some stuff sometimes. I'm dumb as shit. Yeah. Come at me. Tell me how stupid I am. I'm free. Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Anyway, some of that feedback was nice. Yeah. And it charmed me. Yeah. What's your bright spot? My bright spot is Shohayotani. Shoh Hey, Otani, my friend. Right now, okay, so show Aotani is won all the MVP awards. that one can win.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I hear he's good. He's done things that nobody's ever done before. He had a 50 home run and 50 stolen base season, which nobody's ever done before. He's just astonishing. And this year, he's going to try and win the Sy Young Award, which means he's going to also try and be not just a great pitcher, but the best pitcher in the league.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Which is probably attainable, right? That's the problem. That's the problem. Currently, he's, he's, pitch 12 innings and given up zero runs, right? It is within his talent level to do something. The problem I have with it is this, right? He can do it just because he really wants to.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That should not be okay. But also, you kind of imagine that, like, what kind of wear and tear is he doing on himself if he keeps that up for the rest of the season? You can't. It's crazy. Yeah. But do you know what? Do you know what's keeping him from doing it?
Starting point is 00:03:51 That it's impossible. And he bet on himself. Right. I mean, I don't like it. I don't like it whenever a guy can do an impossible thing just because he really wants to do it. Yeah, yeah. You always feel like there should be, you know, come on, man. The body can't do this.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, you shouldn't. No, you can't do this. I'm proud of you for having the will. Absolutely. It's nice of you, but there should be things that are unattainable. It feels like this takes away some excuses that you have. There are no excuses other than this is a multi-dictual. generational talent made of some sort of magical material.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I guess so. Yeah, I'm not made of that. My knees hurt all the time. And always have. All the time. Yeah. So let me ask you this. I've not kept up with baseball in a long time.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Sure, sure, sure. But I remember Ken Griffey Jr. being so cool. Oh, he's super cool. Is Shohei Otani as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was? Showy Otani is not as cool as Ken Griffey Jr. was. First off, never wears his cap backwards. Sure. Maybe he does, but it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:04:53 He doesn't rock and rock it doesn't exist anymore. And secondly, he's got too much pressure. The entire nation of Japan puts pressure on him all the time, right? You can't be cool if you also have the responsibility to represent an entire country. Yeah, I guess so. Whereas Ken Griffey, he was cool as shit.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah. He was playing with House Money. He was a junior. He was so cool. Yeah. His dad was already great at baseball. And then he was like, What if I'm going to be one of the ten best guys ever anyways?
Starting point is 00:05:24 And the coolest. And so cool. Yeah. So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right. And I'm hoping, I'm pulling for Root-Hoy. Okay. Get the cycle of awards.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Just to win everything. Fine. Just win it all. Fine. Yeah. I mean, he can. He can. Because he wants to.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Just because he wants to. Yeah. So we have an episode to go over today. And we're going to be talking about April 3, 26. All right. We are here in this period where Alex is figuring out how the fuck am I going to get away from Trump. Yeah. This shit is bad.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It's threatening to blow up a whole country. There is that. He's firing his attorney general. Yeah. Oh, God. Everything's a mess. It's not going well. So we have a fun episode today.
Starting point is 00:06:13 But before we get into it, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. Ooh, I think that's a great idea. So first, Big Dick's Mystery Meet. home of the four inch footlong. Our brats are the worst, but you can't beat our weaners. Thank you so much. You're a policy won. I'm a policy won.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And Waluigi isn't even Wario's brother. He's just a guy Wario hired so he'd have a tennis doubles partner.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Thank you so much. You're now, policy won't. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. I think a lot of this lore is unexplored. And some of it's open to interpretation, but I do agree they're not necessarily brothers. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:51 We had a technocrat in the mix, so thank you so much to honky wonk, bononka nonk. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy won't. Four stars. Go honky a month and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Bamb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bam. Jar Jarre binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yes. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:07:20 So today, before we get into the episode proper, I got an out of context drop for you. If we start putting trips on the ground and they get repulsed or pinned down, then Trump is going to be like, oh, if I pull out now, I'm a weenie forever. Oh, no. Oh, no. He's a weenie forever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I do, I do appreciate the idea that we should be. concerned about whether or not our presidents are like, well, this may be the right decision, but I can't look like a weenie. Right. So I'm going to have to kill everybody. I called Moscow and they said that they were rubber and I was glue.
Starting point is 00:08:02 There's nothing I can do. Shit. Sorry, I can't be a weenie, guys. Y'all got to go. It's so dumb that he's talking about like nuclear war and Trump being a weenie. Yep. Yeah, that's how we live. So we start off this episode.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And Alex, last we heard from him on our show, he was talking a fair amount about orbs, being everywhere. They were great. And it turns out that I think he's leaning into the idea that there's a fake alien disclosure that's about to happen. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Well, Congressman Tim Burchett has a lot of credibility with me. He didn't go along with the Republicans with the Democrats on the Epstein cover-up. Just a lot of other things. You tell he's the real deal. The voting records excellent. And he was asked yesterday, We've got the clip coming up on Fox News about former Congressman Gates being briefed about alien human hybrids by the Army.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And he said, well, I can't give you classified information. But he said, just what we were shown two weeks ago would terrorize the entire population. And you just wouldn't even believe it. He says Americans would freak out if they knew what Congress has been told. Now, I've been on top of this for a long time. and I can tell you most of what Congress is given most of the guests and I'm not putting Joe Rogan down
Starting point is 00:09:26 he knows a lot of them are full of it he's always trying to figure out who's accurate who's not he asked me all the time will come on as these DOD whistleblowers and just put out absolute crap so they're flooding the zone with a bunch of disinformation but there's also a lot of real stuff going on
Starting point is 00:09:44 if Alex wants to get any points for saying that many of Rogan's guests are full of shit and that Rogan knows that a lot of them are full of shit, then I'm going to need him to name some names. Yeah. As long as he just speaks in these kind of vague terms, it's almost like not criticizing Rogan's guests at all.
Starting point is 00:10:00 And this is a bigger problem than it appears to be at first, because Alex is saying that he talks to Joe about how some of his guests are full of shit. That means that in theory, Rogan is presenting bullshitters to his audience as experts, knows their bullshitters, and doesn't let his audience in on the fact that they're bullshitters. He might even let them come back on the show
Starting point is 00:10:19 and let them lie about what they said about Sandy Hook. Yeah. Like, it's crazy what he might allow. Yep. If Rogan knows that some of his guests are running sciops on his audience, then he has an obligation to protect them from those siops, or else he's complicit in them. So it would be good for Alex, and even more so for Joe,
Starting point is 00:10:36 to go on the record about who the people are who have used him as a megaphone to manipulate his huge audience. Yeah. Also, I'm glad that Alex is proud of Representative Burchett for not going along with the Epstein cover-up, But the problem is that Alex using that as a mark of credibility, it reminds you that Alex was fine going along with it. You're super cool with going along with it. That wasn't a deal breaker for him.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And his main problem was that Trump wouldn't shut up about it, whereas, you know, Alex prefers a more silent stonewall kind of cover up. So Burchett has been talking a bunch of shit lately about aliens. But to be fair to him, he's been doing that for a long time. His most recent comments have come because he's introduced a bill seeking to get rid of the all-domain. anomaly resolution office, or the AARO. So the AARO is an office in the Department of Defense that handles alien and UFO reports, and Burchett's bill would take that centralized office away and delegate their responsibilities to a bunch of other offices, so it would be harder to cover up aliens.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Okay, I got you. All right. So it's like a dead, it's like whatever you send a letter to every attorney before you go confront the guy in case they kill you. They'll be like, ah, the letter's coming out no matter what. I guess so. Gotcha. But like just the presentation of this, when you look at it at first, it doesn't seem insane.
Starting point is 00:11:55 The idea that there's one centralized DOD office that's responsible for the UFO stuff, that sounds like X-Files stuff. And we don't need that in the real world. That's true. Birchit claims that there's been like these decades-long cover-up. And it seems like if there's just one office that covers this stuff, then maybe that could be a bottleneck. It would be easier to cover it up if there was only. only one office. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah. And the computers were probably 20 years old because it's the government. They're not even using computers. They're using like weird punch card things. Yeah, they're probably using weird punch card things. They're communicating via piano. Ironic, considering the magic technology that the aliens give them. Unfortunately, this office was created in 2022, partially because of people like Burchett
Starting point is 00:12:37 who are yelling about how the government needed to take aliens more seriously. Yeah, there is that. This is a big old who cares. If aliens exist and have technology that. everyone imagines they see in the skies, then we're fucked if they want to hurt us. They're by definition of benevolent force because they could crush us but don't. So they aren't nearly as big of a threat to humans as the Trump administration. If they were going to, they could have.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So why worry about if they will? Right. They haven't yet. Yeah. Which is, that speaks volumes. Yeah, exactly. Anyone who cares a ton about this stuff right now seems very suspicious to me. Even if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of the idea that the government is going to fake
Starting point is 00:13:15 some kind of disclosure, I still think that's trying to distract from the real world issues we're facing. Maybe. Trump is threatening to kill civilizations. So not treating that like an immediate crisis and spending your time rambling about aliens, it kind of still feels like covering for Trump. Yeah. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit like if somebody elected Goldfinger president, but I guess that's how it works. Or gold member. Or gold member also. Let me ask you a question Because I think we've been Not to use the term predictive programming
Starting point is 00:13:51 But in terms of the imagination Of what aliens could do I think we've got the gamut You know what I'm saying? Like we've got the they blow us up We've got the they got magic technology They fuck around a little bit They're pranksters
Starting point is 00:14:02 Absolutely we got the men in black version What exactly would Freak the public out so much That you can't tell us anymore? Hmm You know what I mean? I think you know what I was actually kind of thinking about that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I think if you gave everyone a week off work that they could like deal with this with their families. We know it's going to take some time so we're going to send everybody dinner for the next week and then you can deal with that and then we'll be back to work.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah, if everyone was like able to safely process it with people that they can connect with, I don't know. I don't think people would have that one hard for time. I also I also do because you're right. Like if we're at the stage where they want to kill us, if you can travel through time and space to get to us,
Starting point is 00:14:50 you've already won. You've already won. There's nothing we could do to stop you. Yeah. And the fact that you haven't killed us should, like we should take that as a sign of good faith. Absolutely. Because we've got it coming.
Starting point is 00:15:01 If you're from space and you're like, I don't know, maybe we should kill civilizations that are bad. And you saw us, you'd be like, yeah, this is the line. This is the Mendoza line. Anything worse than this? We've got to get it out of here.
Starting point is 00:15:12 What if the alien, are around but they're just not on Twitter so they don't know all this stuff. We don't get social media. How do you guys even talk to each other? So you're talking about the imagination about aliens and predictive programming. Yeah. And Alex actually talks a little bit about that in the context of Ridley Scott. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:33 And it was Ridley Scott when he made Prometheus, the prequel to Alien, told the New York Times here just after it came out. And I said this when it came out. I said, this is the elite's creation story. None of them are atheists. None of them believe we came from evolution on its own, but directed evolution, accelerated evolution. And this is what they believe, because I've been around these people.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And they do. And then he goes this big interview years later saying, oh, this is my religion. This is my, this is how I think the earth was actually made. And you notice it's the aliens are humanoid giants, 10, 12 feet tall. And they've got a bio weapon that they use to kill other humanoid colonies that they don't like, because they'd seeded us here.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And they're sending ships from their attack base out to wipe our planet out. Sure. And that's why it's interesting later. Humans get to a development level and go back out. And well, they shot at us and miss, but shit at us and hit. So, and that's what's in the Ananaki legends and in all. All of that is that God decided to wipe us out because we've been mixed with another alien species he didn't like. So this is all about to come out, folks.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Okay. So I was reading through interviews that Ridley Scott did about the alien Prometheus. And I found this bit from 2024 or 2025 when he was promoting Gladiator 2. And I just have to share this with you. Okay, okay. Quote, to sidetrack a moment, my sport was always tennis. and I became reasonably good. But when you get that good,
Starting point is 00:17:10 you'd be a better play five times a day, five days a week. I watched a documentary on the retirement of Roger Federer. It's three parts, just fantastic. Federer begins and in his soft English said, I know I'm going to cry. He's about to have his last matches with Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic.
Starting point is 00:17:30 He talks about the game, and I'm paralleling that with what my game is, which is feature film. I thought, good God, I had to retire at 40 from filmmaking when I've just began my new career, I wouldn't know what to do. I'm sure Rogers got it all planned out. He's a very smart man. But there's one thing you'll always miss.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You miss Nadal across that net. To clarify, he was asked a question about how he felt about James Cameron directing the second alien movie instead of him. Right. And if that factored into his decision to insist on directing the Gladiator sequel. Right. And that was where his mind went. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:04 He and James Cameron are in a death spiral. Yes. But so much respect. Absolutely. Oh, man, I do, I remember that documentary and I cried a lot. You and Ridley Scott could sit down and talk about it. I mean, it's amazing to know that Ridley Scott and I have a lot in common. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 If I had more time, I probably would have gotten deep in a hole of watching interviews with him. Yeah. Because the transcripts of them that I was reading over were like, this guy seems fucking insane. Seems like a good interview. Yeah, that does sound right. I've read a bunch of the interviews that he did about Prometheus, and he doesn't say that he based it on the globalist's creation myth. He tends to bring up Milton's Paradise Lost,
Starting point is 00:18:44 and when he was promoting Gladiator 2, he literally said he was, quote, asleep at the wheel when he was making Prometheus. Well. I'm glad Alex has decided that it's a secret revelation of the devil's beliefs or whatever, though. That's fun. Anyway, I kept that in mostly because I found the tennis thing. Yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Thank you. I was good to hear about. I wonder, okay. is it just that Elron was like, fuck it, I'll do it. Is that the only thing that keeps all of these guys from starting their own religion? Like, could Ridley Scott have just spun Prometheus into, like, Dianetics and then moved on and became Scientology guy? No. Is it there?
Starting point is 00:19:22 No. Well, look, I'm not a Ridley Scott scholar. I mean, you've just said he's insane. So that's a mark in his favor for starting Scientology. Yeah, but I think he's the kind of insane that. wouldn't allow himself to take it that seriously. Yeah. And want to go make a gladiator, another gladiator picture.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Yeah. I think he likes film and he likes weird ideas. Yeah, you can't make Kingdom of Heaven and want to take over the world. And here's where I think, like, he doesn't have the narcissism that's necessary to have a religion. He was asked about James Cameron do an avatar with all digital stuff. Yeah. And he was making a big deal of how he made Gladiator, you know, practical sense. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And he wasn't mean about James Cameron. camera using digital. Right. CGI. He's like, God, Jim does it different. That's the way of being mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 That's the way of being being being. If I live my life completely different from you, I am absolutely telling you that you're doing it wrong. Maybe, maybe. I think Scott's above it. Fair enough. So, Alex said something in the early going of this episode. That got me pretty excited.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It is Friday, April 3rd, 2026. I am your. battled host coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas, Austin, transmitting worldwide. All right, I'm going to spend the third and fourth hour on humanity's origin story to understand the present you must know the past and the beginning. All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And if you believe the Bible, if you believe the Samarian text that are carved in stone, if you believe the Egyptian text, if you believe all the books of the Bible that they confirmed were written after Christ's death. On papyrus, I guess. But pulled out. It's war of the worlds, baby.
Starting point is 00:21:11 But the church does not want you to know that. Both the Orthodox and the Catholics. And it is a fact. And it is what the establishment knows and what they've been keeping from everybody. Two hours of this show is going to be Alex just rambling about stuff from movies and books by Zacharias. and things that he half remembers from episodes of ancient aliens.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Better believe it. This is a man who doesn't want to talk about Trump. Absolutely not. I know that this show isn't really tied too closely to reality, but this editorial decision should be seen for what it is, which is cowardice. Trump was sold to Alex's audience as someone who knew about the globalist plots and was working to stop them. If the globalist's plots go back to Samaria and the beginning of human history,
Starting point is 00:22:00 then it's pretty implausible to believe that Trump could have ever known about them been on the right side, and then all of a sudden went bad. That's just not believable. A good rule of thumb is that Alex, he's talking too seriously about aliens. That's a sign that things are going really well for him or really bad. If he feels on top of the world and he's drunk with Rogan, he'll ramble about how he knows the secrets of the universe. And if he's run out of every single excuse on Earth for Trump, he'll retreat to the stars.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah. And I think that's what he's trying to do here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is the equivalent of being outside and, like, helping to plan a bank robbery. And then being outside and when the cops are walking by and running in, you just go, maybe flick McCoyne in there. Yep, yeah, yeah, oh, never involved with this. Got to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Goodbye. Check your watch. Oh, who are those people? Get them! Get them, officers. Yeah. Yeah. There's something really, like, I got to get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Yeah, 100%. It's kind of funny. There's something to it. So Alex is talking about Samarian stone tablets and what have you. Written in stone. Right. That brings him to Gilgamesh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Where we fight not against flesh and blood, but against off-world entities. Read it. It's in the Bible. Pull it up. New Testament, Old Testament. And what's in? Pull it the whole thing up now. Samarian text, the epic of Gilgamesh, the Ananaki.
Starting point is 00:23:30 It's the same story in... the first book of the Bible. And boy, have you heard of this before? All about a global elite working with the off-world aliens, and the aliens decide that the humans are too many of them, and so they re-engineer us to be slower, stupider, infertile. What does the Old Testament tell you that people are living 800 years on average, but then God or the gods cursed us
Starting point is 00:24:13 and engineered just only live 75 on average well that's the epic of Gilgamesh that's the Samarians not really nope that's sort of in the background of the story of Gilgamesh but that's not that's not what's going on there like that maybe is a part of the deeper mythology sure but the character Gilgamesh wants to
Starting point is 00:24:33 he wants to find the secret to eternal life but he learns that it's not really possible and that death is part of how God the God's created man. The story includes a flood myth, which is a parallel to the story in the Bible about Noah. Gilgamesh meets a guy, the guy who survived the flood by building an ark,
Starting point is 00:24:49 who was given the gift of immortality by the gods because he saved humanity with the boat. Nice. So that is, you know, one immortality that's in there. In Genesis 6, God just decides that humans were living too long, so he set the limit at 120, 120 years. I mean, it was, I would still say that's probably too long, but, you know, it's better than a thousand.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And I have bad news. Yeah. There was a French lady who died in 1997 who was 122. So it seems like it's not from the rule. Craming God. One of the main reasons that people lived so long in the Bible at the beginning and then they had much more normal lifespans is that they needed to mythologically connect the creation story of Adam with the destruction of the world in the flood.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Noah's the 10th generation descendant of Adam and making that numerically fit requires the ancestors living way longer. Yeah. than people did, and that's mostly what's going on here. Let's face it, we cannot remember that many. This was an oral tradition before we invented writing. I can't remember that many names. I can't.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I can't do it. So this guy lived a thousand years. Sure, he could have been 50,000 guys. Right. But you know what? He's just this guy. And I'm not saying that there's like crazy number codes that you can decrypt and find magic powers.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Right. But numbers are significant. Yeah. 10 generations is, you know, 10 repeats. They're doing a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're doing the thing. Yeah, so that's part of the importance.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We're humans. We like big round numbers. If you see a round number in real life, though, it's probably not real. Or maybe the globalists back then were working with aliens. That's possible. To shorten humans' lifespans by putting something in the water, putting like Etrazine in the water. Here's my problem with all of these alien stories is that while I respect. that aliens, I wouldn't be able to understand
Starting point is 00:26:37 their motivations, obviously. They're alien to me, right? At the very least, I would expect somebody who is capable of traveling through a space faring species, right, would at least have figured out a, like, this is something we want or something
Starting point is 00:26:53 we don't want kind of thing. There would be a benefit or an advantage to it. Why are they so inexplicably crazy? Just doing so many random shit for fun. Why 120? I think it's be, well, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's mostly they're being imagined. That is, I, well, Dan, I know.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And, and some of this stuff, uh, is, is literary. Yeah, there is that. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. But again, I do think you touched on something important, which is, it's a fool's Aaron to try and understand alien motivation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, the Earth, uh, maybe, is a big research facility that aliens are using to figure something out. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Take a look around, boys and girls. You're not in Kansas anymore and you never were.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Ha. But there is so much baloney loaded into all of this and so much disinformation. But we know that with the genetic engineering and the level of science we have, this has been a phenomenon for 20 years, nobody's
Starting point is 00:28:04 an atheist anymore. Nobody's thinks that salt in the ocean just turned into life it was all put here nothing on this planet is from this planet this planet is a giant research facility a couple of mice and it's had different owners and different groups and you go to the ancient indian vatic text 3 000 4 000 years old the oldest copies they found and things carved and stone and all of it is mathematical equations that they now are able to translate that are super advanced on energy and sound everything else oh and the indians have the exact same stories so i'm supposed to have my mind blown
Starting point is 00:28:54 by the indian texts having stories that match the indian text yeah feels like alix is throwing spaghetti at the wall wow this is not possible possible so alex is talking about a book that was published in 1965 called Vedic Mathematics. It purports to be 16 sayings that illustrate mathematical principles that are derived from Vedic texts, but it was a hoax. Sure. The writer just pretended that the things he wrote were connected to the Vedas, but it was mostly just stuff he came up with.
Starting point is 00:29:21 The book is mostly just cool math tricks you can do to impress your friends. Like, for example, you can multiply any number by five if you just cut it in half and put a zero at the end. What? Yeah. Or if you want to put in a little more complexity, you can multiply. you can multiply any two-digit number by 11 by separating the digits and then putting their sum in between. No, what? So that's like 121?
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's mathematical tricks and like mental math things. Yeah, that's what they call new math now. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I've heard that term. So maybe it's because that guy is actually a genius and the Vedic tests were right there the whole time. I don't know how to accurately express this, but this is the platonic ideal of an alec. source. So many of his reference points are like they're books that are perfect for junior high
Starting point is 00:30:09 students to use to make themselves feel smarter than their peers. And that's what this is. Yeah. He used this book to feel smarter than everyone about math, just like he used non-dare-colic conspiracy to feel smarter than everyone at school about politics and history. I get that. And I think it's awesome that some kids are contrarian as hell. But you're supposed to grow past this stage. Yeah. And Alex is in his 50s. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Makes you, Makes you really recognize why a guy would be attracted to somebody who is afraid of looking like a weenie. Should they back down from anything? Forever.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Forever. A weenie forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to look like a weenie, says the junior high man trying to show off. That's so, it feels so right. Yeah, it does. It really does. That's a good out of context drop.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So Alex, he brought up Gilgamesh earlier. I'm like, is this boy been reading? Is he doing some flipping a pages? Or he's playing Final Fantasy. There's a lot of Gilgamesh in there. No, he's just on Twitter. Oh, okay. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Let's just go ahead and play a short little video, a little prelude from a video I saw on X a few days ago. Well, just a little snapshot of the epic of Gilgamesh that they couldn't translate until whatever was like 80 years ago. And then they found the decoding. Sounds true. Stones that explained how to decode it. And man, it's like reading a science fiction book. but it's not but it's not
Starting point is 00:31:38 but it's not so Alex just plays this video of a guy that he is on on Twitter that is just talking about Yilgamesh like yeah it's mostly like
Starting point is 00:31:47 background ancient aliens type explanations of Samarian myths right and stuff but like I was I was listening to this and I was like Alex has essentially outsourced
Starting point is 00:31:59 what John Bown and Greg Reese used to do by stealing people's content from Twitter Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a, there was a degree of separation where it was almost like a plausible deniability kind of thing. Like, sure, I call them reporters, but they just troll the internet and grab stuff that is popular or going viral at any time. And then I talk about it. Now he's just literally scrolling. Well, I've seen the invoices. I know what like John Bown was getting paid per video.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And I like Alex used to have to pay him to find something that was on Twitter and then make his own video sort of covering it. Yeah. So Alex could play it on the show. Now he just steals everyone's shit. Yeah. And it's higher quality because people are actually trying. Because they're making it themselves. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of John Bound rehashing it like Tosh or some shit. He solved the problem of like he can't get any competent employees. Yep. And he doesn't have to pay anymore. It is awesome. It is the apotheosis of hiring by contest. What greater contest is there than just grabbing enough attention today?
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah. A contest you didn't know you were in. Yep. You're not getting anything for. You can't win. I guess maybe exposure. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So Alex talks about how the aliens are in the Bible. Yeah. And they're also in things that aren't in the Bible, but probably should be. Okay. And it goes on from there. We'll air more of that later. What else should be in the Bible? That's been dug up all over those ancient sites.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And remember, the Jews were held captive along with other groups by the Egyptians that were going along at the same time nearby. just 800 miles away or 1,000 miles away or so, less. And then they had their own writing. And then they wrote about it in Genesis, which is essentially the same story. And then there were, what, four books of the Bible that folks decided to cut out of the Old Testament,
Starting point is 00:33:54 a couple out of the new, confirmed books, and it's all about that. Oh, all the books about that, you don't get to know about that. And the preachers always tell you, the Bible's literal, except the parts of Ezekiel, and Daniel and Revelation and Genesis to talk about all this. And a bunch of other stuff. But you read the other books, which I tend to do on air soon, are the key messages.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I was reading me on this morning. The whole one? It's just unbelievable, folks. It's unbelievable. Alex really shouldn't open this door up because down this road is trouble. It would be one thing if there are only a few books that weren't included in the Bible, and they all happen to be about aliens or demons. but the reality is that there's a ton of books that aren't in the Bible that arguably could be.
Starting point is 00:34:43 One very difficult question any religion has to answer is about the canon of what is divinely inspired and what isn't. What bullshit do we want to work with? Yeah. And for someone in Alex's position who claims that God speaks to him and gives him prophecies, it's not worth it to debate this. It's pretty well understood by religious studies scholars that many of the books in the canonical Bible have names that are attributed to them. They could not have written those books. Of course, of course not. It was very common in literature at the time.
Starting point is 00:35:13 So even though Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are theoretically supposed to have been written by the apostles, they were not. The Dead Sea Scrolls included books that aren't in the canon and the Nag Hammadi Library had tons of excluded texts. There's so much that could be in the Christian canon that isn't. And when you start to examine that fact and try to explain it, it's hard to escape the seemingly arbitrary nature of what's in and what's not. No. Once you start dealing with religious texts on this level, it has a tendency to take the divine out of the conversation, and that's not good for Alex. So let's tease this conversation out a little bit. He's saying that these four books were kicked out of the Bible because the powers that B didn't want you to know what they said. At the core, this is Alex saying that the canon of the Bible was decided as a means of maintaining social control because those books were too threatening to the people in power, so they excluded them. Right. In Alex's mind, there's a true Christianity, but these people were trying to wield power by putting the label of Christianity on their distorted version of the canon.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Sure. I welcome this argument, and it's definitely something that history has provided examples of people doing, like the slave Bible. But if Alex wants to make this argument, he needs to get specific about what his canon is. He can't just gesture wildly at a copy of the lost books of the Bible and forgotten books of Eden and pretend that his work is done. He needs to give a reason why some books are in and some aren't, or he needs to admit it's just based off feelings. Aliens and demons excite him. So the books that are about that kind of stuff, that's real Christianity.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But the ones that are just a bunch of rules that he doesn't want to follow, those are boring. So give him the boot. Yeah. The sacred should be treated as sacred, regardless of how fundamentally irrational it is, because once you start trying to bring rationality to bear on the sacred, everything collapses.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yeah. This is the space where Alex wants to have his cake and eat it too, where everything he talks about is documented and it's all this study. But he also has magic, prophetic dreams. Yeah. It's just no good. Yeah. If you're a believer and somebody's like, what about all this stuff? You go like, presumably God can handle what goes in his own fucking book.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Am I right? He knows if it made it in, it's supposed to be. If it didn't, it's not supposed to be. I don't need to ask questions. Because the moment I ask questions, then it's like, well, what if it could be this? No, it can't be. It's just God. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:37 There's like a number of books that you could make very valid arguments for why they could be in. Sure. And there are denominations that have the apocrypha as part of their canon. Why not? And there's strong arguments there. There's also strong arguments for why like some books shouldn't be in the Bible. Yeah. And, you know, I guess if you get really crazy with it, you could just say like a Ray Bradbury story should be in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Bible. Why not? Why not? If it's a demonstrably useful parable of something that somebody could absolutely grow through learning about, then yeah, fuck it. Put it in there. Part of the argument for why Luther included some of the apocrypha in his Bible was like, well, fuck it. It helps. If it's fake, it can only be uplifting to Christians and it's a good lesson. Absolutely. What are we doing? Yeah, why not? Anyway. Oh, that one story is about him fucking with wine. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:38:38 Make him fuck with other stuff. Who gives a shit? Throw it in there. Right. Let's see him make a motorcycle. Check this out. Butter, no churn. Can you believe that shit?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Put it in the Bible. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. So, um, another thing that probably should be in the Bible. What? Plato. Playto? Yeah, because he talked about Atlantis and stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:57 He really should be in the Bible. He really, I think Plato shouldn't be in the Bible. What? That's funny. Plato said where? the Spartans lived and the Spartan war in the Spartan war with the Trojans
Starting point is 00:39:11 where the Trojans lived but before that they were even sure the Trojans existed or where their city was or where their island was but right where Plato was archaeologists never found it and then they finally what 30-something years ago found a giant city that had just been basically buried in some later flood
Starting point is 00:39:28 and it was all there Troy just like Plato said and Plato said tens of thousands of years before there had been two cities Atlantis was two one was Atlantis another name It seems to me like if Alex actually believed this stuff he wouldn't have difficulty coming up with the other magic city
Starting point is 00:39:47 that existed in the past It's really important Pretty sure he's trying to remember the name Lamuria But Plato doesn't mention the second city Plato did He didn't give a new location For where Troy was He was just repeating what was already established
Starting point is 00:40:01 In the Homeric oral tradition in the Iliad and the Odyssey. Right. They didn't find Troy 30 years ago. Heinrich Schliemann founded in the like 1870s. People were initially skeptical of the excavation because it was believed that a different already discovered city was probably Troy. But as he found more evidence, he built a strong case and brought people over to his side.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That said, there's still skepticism in one sense, and that is that there's no evidence that the Homeric poems are true. Troy existing doesn't mean that there was a guy. who fought there who was invincible except on his heel. In fact, I would argue that regardless, he probably wasn't. Mm-hmm. Yeah? Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I think he was probably a good fighter if he was a person. Maybe. Anyway, all that's just the city could be there. Yeah. And this stuff does not have to be true. No. No, no, no, no, no. None of it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Also, get this. Yeah. I'm just going to blow your mind. Yeah. When that dude found Troy. Yeah. That was 20 years before. we invented volleyball.
Starting point is 00:41:05 That's how long ago it was. That's crazy. Volleyball did not exist. It is hard. It is hard to imagine a world without volleyball. Like, you can imagine, you know, before Naismith, you can be like, ah, where'd basketball come from? But volleyball, you just got a net and you hammer it.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You got to think badminton existed before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't we do this with our hands? Why not? Lawn sports have existed for a lot longer. So just throw a volleyball in there. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Alex is saying that he found. Troy 30 years ago. Pre-volvelyball. I want to say that 30 years ago is closer to when the movie Atlantis by Disney was released starring Michael J. Fox. You make an interesting point. In it, he finds The Shepard's Journal. Very similar in story-wise how it works is to Plato's little thing.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And in it, they find the lost hidden city of Atlantis underground. Tough pitch coming from me here. Yeah. That script also put it in the Bible. You know what? I really like that movie. Sure. Yeah, I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So we are in the third dimension right now. Sure. Physical space. Yep. Taping on the desk. All right. And I feel like it's real. But there's other dimensions that are more real.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I don't think that's possible. Oh? All these ancient cultures in the Bible tell us that there are dimensional realities more real than ours. We now know with mathematics. It's true. and that our minds are able to connect to that electrochemically, which they are, that our brains are transceivers, all of our cells are, and that we're giving messages through the ether.
Starting point is 00:42:42 What's ether? And that's what all the different cultures would do was rituals and hallucinogens to have group hallucinations, which there's no such thing, that it raises the veil, so that you can now see beyond, because your brain already sees it, it filters it out, and you can only see a limited light spectrum in the third dimension. This is where you have to take a step back if you're Alex
Starting point is 00:43:10 and you're still pretending to be a Christian. A lot of the stuff in the Bible is pretty negotiable, and if you're in one tradition, you may believe something slightly different than someone who's in another group. It'll happen. Baptism is a good example of where there's, like, a lot of disagreement. Sure. But the thing that you really can't get away from is that God had a son named Jesus
Starting point is 00:43:28 who died for humanity's sin, and that sacrifice created a new covenant between God and man. If you don't believe that, you're not a Christian. It's in the title. If Alex believes that there are a bunch of other, quote, more real dimensions that we get to play around in if we try real hard, that's great. And I'm happy for him, but that's not Christianity. And let me take this one step further. If he believes that the books of the Bible are some esoteric riddle that only he's smart enough to understand,
Starting point is 00:43:55 then not only is he not a Christian, he's directly refuting the core piece. pillars of the faith. Yeah. We've listened to the show enough that we've heard him pray countless times on air and he's faked crying about his personal relationship with Jesus. So I don't think he just thinks that the Bible is supposed to be coded language that explains like these other dimensions and stuff. When he's doing this kind of thing, he isn't crying because the riddles are so good.
Starting point is 00:44:21 He's using the conventional understanding of the Christian faith to manipulate his audience. Yeah. And then doing this kind of shit. Yep. which is blasphemous. Yeah. Yeah, you know, there's a great Leslie Nielsen movie called Surf Nidges. Here's what's great about a movie called SIRF NINJES.
Starting point is 00:44:40 You call that a Leslie Nielsen movie? Of course I do. Okay. He's in it. Sure. I don't remember the names of anybody else is in it, so. He's definitely not one of the Surf Nangers. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But if you name a movie Surf Nidges, you need at the very least two things. Surfing and Ninjas, right? If you name your religion, Christianity, you are fairly required to have the Christ be like front and center. And it has to be a real, like, whether you understand it as like some kind of a metaphorical truth or you believe it as, you know, literal resurrection. Sure, sure, sure, sure. You must believe in this thing.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. It is what we are united around. Otherwise, we are not united at all. The word is meaningless. Yeah. Yeah. And Alex is basically kind of, you know, he likes to talk about people peeing on things. He's kind of pissing on a cross.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Yeah, that is the problem. You know, you say, hey, we're going to protect Christianity if people start saying bad stuff about it. And they're like, oh, I'm a Christian, but this is what we do. We go, no, you can't do that. But then the problem with Christians saying, no, you can't do that is they tend to go a little far. They tend to go a little far in history. Yeah. In the whole, you can't do this thing.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough, it's tough, it's tough balance to strike. Yeah. You know, it's like, no, we don't want Alex, but at the same time, you shouldn't put people on the rack. There's a, it's a, it's a tradeoff. Right. You know? Yep. So, um, Alex talks a little bit here about Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Sure. And how he's cured blindness. Interesting. Yeah. And this has to do with like the idea that DMT lifts the veil and stuff. Oh, okay, okay. He's going to be able to do that for you, like, with a little. implant. I don't know if that's true. Elon Musk has talked about with his company, but this has been
Starting point is 00:46:28 around for a long time. I remember seeing documentaries on PBS when I was a kid about it, where they could put wires into people's brains and start giving them a limited site, but now with computer programs that can train the brain, they can do it very, very quickly, even if you never had sight before, they can wire somebody up, you know of the side if they had it before because you already have the patterns in your brain to have sight. But if you never had site, it's very hard, but now they have computer programs where it goes in and it starts with a very easy dot-grain training on it that adds more pixels. And within six months a year, people can see.
Starting point is 00:47:01 That's available to everybody. They just haven't decided to deploy it to you. And as Elon has said in talks, they can hook somebody up to those and show you infrared. They can hook it up where you can actually see radioactive emanations. You can turn your brain up and then you can see everything. Everything. So the first problem here is that,
Starting point is 00:47:27 Blindness is caused by a ton of different conditions and circumstances, so there isn't really like a quick fix like Alex is imagining. This is just Musk's shit talking and Alex repeating it like a good media surrogate because that's what he is. That's what he does. New and evolving therapies involve a certain amount of training the brain to process signals that come in from the eye, but a lot of vision loss has more to do with the cells in your eyes that recognize light. Researchers have made a lot of progress with growing these cells in a lab setting and that's exciting stuff, but it's not the music man-ass, stuff that Elon's doing. He has a company called Blindsight, which has gone through no clinical trials yet, but he's done a fair amount of PR for it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 That's great. It's cool, and it's not shady. That doesn't sound shady at all. Elon's plan is basically to ignore the eye part of the equation and implant electrodes that stimulate the cells in your visual cortex in order to show your brain pictures, so it would probably rely on some kind of wearable or implantable camera where a person's eyes are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 People who work in vision-based medicine and research, all pretty much believe that it could be possible that this could give someone the ability to see like blurry general shapes. But there's no way that we know enough about how to stimulate enough cells in the right way to give someone clear vision. Yeah, that would be crazy. It's just so far beyond what's possible. The complexity required to understand it would be beyond anything we, it would require alien technology. It is a more feasible gamble of a thing to think about the cells to, implant in the eye. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:59 It's fair enough, though, that Elon could just broadcast whatever he wanted on those things into your head. Presumably, it would only be whatever you wanted to see, like infrared or heat vision. Presumably. Feels like that might eventually become the premium package. There is going to be a lot of commercials. You might have to pay for ad-free eyeballs. Man, you should see. Also, like, whatever he could project into your brain, you could just see now.
Starting point is 00:49:24 you are one decision away from being able to wear heat vision goggles all the time yeah there is that and if you make that decision you will quickly learn why people don't walk around with heat vision goggles there's not magic stuff you end up finding there's nothing you can really do there's nothing things look bad it's easier to see in the dark so there's that well those are another goggle you could get yeah there's definitely that yeah well there you go I guess we don't need fake eyes also shouldn't this be transhumanism like he should be really against this I listen I don't like wearing glasses and I don't like wearing contacts, but I'm not going to be the first to get new eyes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm going to let, I'm going to let enough early adopter types. I wasn't, I didn't get the iPhone one. I got the iPhone three. I'm out here waiting until I get to eye eyes three. Do you know what though? I would never, like, I think I, oh man, no, I don't think I ever would. You don't think so? No, I would get the, like, those cells, like that kind of a surgery.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Sure, sure, sure, sure. Never get robot eyeballs from Musk. You don't know what it's, well, I wouldn't get them from Musk, obviously. You can't trust those eyeballs. Yeah, but I don't know what other kind of competition there's going to be in that field. I mean, listen, I am assuming there will be an altruistic company giving out free government-funded eyes. I think the other folks are going to have a better shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And one of the things that I saw brought up in one of the articles, that I thought was, you know, a good point was that, like, a lot of the people who were suffering from vision loss, they're later in life, and they don't really know how to live blind. Yeah. And so a lot of them are depressed and despondent. Sure. And someone like Musk coming along and being like, I will magically, I can magically fix your eyes.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I'll give you money. This has never happened in America before. It's preying on people who are in, like, a really vulnerable position. And I think that they have to know. Like, they have to know that this hype is predatory. You can call, cold call, and try and get social security numbers, or you can do what Elon Musk is doing. Apparently one of them is legal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Now. And encouraged. Yeah. So the eyes. Yeah. They're really just brain tissue, if you think about it. Your eyes are really your brain. I strongly disagree with that, but okay.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Eh. Your eyeballs, when you were in utero, as a tiny fetus, grow out of your brain. they say the eyes the window of the soul your eyes are brain tissue your eyes are stalks that grow out of the brain cool and so your unconscious and subconscious
Starting point is 00:52:08 sees everything but the DMT the ayahuasca goes in and lifts the veil but God doesn't get involved in free will So when you take DMT, all that is going to appear to you is bad entities because they're violating a rule of God to try to manipulate us in the third dimension because we're babies, we're children. We're supposed to be allowed to chase the butterflies and runs to the park metaphorically, metaphysically, in this short lifetime, this test. But they're there to sabotage and manipulate and get us off track.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Did you not have the free will to take the DMT in the first place? Like the demons you see in those trips can't force you to do anything. So I have no idea how they're violating God's free will rules. I guess they can't appear to you unless you ask them to. But you took the drug that makes it so you can't see them. Like, this is on you. You did this. You took the drug.
Starting point is 00:53:29 You can say the name three times in a mirror or you can take DMT. It's the same thing. Yeah. They didn't ask you to do that. And as best as I can tell, they were just minding their own business before you got high. Yeah. And showed up. Jesus Christ, I'm bloody Mary over here.
Starting point is 00:53:42 What are you doing? If the free will rule is that you can't appear without being called upon, then God has broken that rule a bunch. He just showed up in the Garden of Eden and asked, you know, Adam and Eve like, hey, why are you naked? Hey, check this out. Yeah, he didn't ask them to show up. Hey, bro. God basically harassed Moses until he agreed to do what he asked. I'm not sure any of the various prophets specifically asked for the vision.
Starting point is 00:54:05 they had and Saul certainly didn't call on God. Hey, but, but I'm a bush, a burden. Wow! Saul was just out there like persecuting Christians and then on the road to Damascus, God appeared and was like, dude, what's your deal? Yeah. Like, he didn't ask. There's no free will in that.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Bro, turn around, get your shit together. All right, I'm out. This free will business doesn't really make sense. And it's just a dumb way for Alex to impose his libertarian ideas on God. God is super into small government. private property and the non-aggression principle. So weird. So weird how he's exactly like what I want him to be, as opposed to me being conforming to him.
Starting point is 00:54:44 It's so crazy how this is. Religion's great, really. Yep. Yep. It's magic. It is magic. So earlier Alex was talking about this representative, Bertet. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And how he's talking some shit about aliens. Sure. And so we get back to that here. But here is Congress. Congressman Burchett on Newsmax yesterday, being asked about what former Congressman Gates is saying about animal, alien human hybrids and animal hybrids. You know, they've made those in the labs. That's human animal hybrids, which is alien. It's new.
Starting point is 00:55:20 They also made new synthetic life. That's alien. So think of the definitions here a little bit differently. Think of them like the movie in the 90s species. They got a radio telescope aimed out of a distant star. planetary system and they get a message in human DNA of what to implant
Starting point is 00:55:42 in a female egg and they do it. And uh-oh, you just set up a new life form here that's going to attack you. Boom. Uh-oh. Trojan horses. Beware gifts from the gods, as they're called. Yeah. Gods, but the ancients thought they were gods.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Right. But there is a god above it all and God tells us, I'm marooned. this entity and his operatives here. And by the way, you're going to have to transcend it. What a dick. What an asshole. Not my job, man.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Populations, other peoples, other species have gone through. Been given this incredible free will, God-like little G power that the Bible tells us we have. We're not God, but we have little God power. But you have to be tested and you have to go through this process. Will you destroy yourself? of the technology. We use it to suppress each other, or will you use it to transcend to a higher level? Not at God's level, but God wants you to transcend to the higher heavens, the dimensions,
Starting point is 00:56:54 the multivariate systems. So, the third dimension is the bottom of physical matter. It's the lowest level that has physical containment, gravity. This is the, this is the, this is, the playpin. This is the baby nursery. This is first level. So very sadly, he does not describe what any of the other dimensions are. Yeah, I imagine it's tough to know. Yeah. I imagine it's tough
Starting point is 00:57:30 to know. I mean, he's getting so specific about the third that I was like, all right, here we go. He's going to list them off. He really seems to know a lot about this third. But also, I don't think he knows anything about the third dimension. Nah. At all. But let's assume that the third dimension is a playpen. Sure. Now what? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Well? How do you get out of the playpen? If you really do get smart and figure it all out, do you just pop out of existence in the physical world, or do you have to wait until you die? While we're talking about it, who's outside the playpen? Is it other people who figured out and popped out a physical reality,
Starting point is 00:58:04 or is it where you go after you die if you resist the DMT's influence? So this is a playpen, but also a research facility and a spiritual test. Sure. All of those things would seem to count. us in different roles where people in a playpen are having carefree fun. People in a research facility are probably being experimented on. And people in a spiritual test are being judged for their actions.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So you can't really play because if you play, you're probably failing the test. You know, I was all mutually exclusive. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, like here's the thing, right? I get what he's saying. But it comes down to the question, does God fart? You know, you think, ah, God doesn't fart.
Starting point is 00:58:44 You wouldn't do that. But then you've got to go like, farting is funny, right? Does God think it's evil? Am I evil? It's a byproduct of eating. Exactly. So does God eat? I don't have to, but he has to.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And then you just get bored, you know? Yeah. And I think that there's another question that this kind of thinking raises, and that is like, hey, if this is the playpen, why are you here? Alex. You seem to be above all this shit and you know everything. and like God talks to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:17 So you're kind of Jesus, right? It feels like he's more the marooned guy. Not in his head. So all of that was supposed to be a setup for talking about playing this clip of Bichette. Bertet, yes. And I will tell you that he is just like, oh, if you saw what I saw, you would never sleep. Okay, great. I'm not suicidal.
Starting point is 00:59:43 No one's going to kill. How is it not your responsibility? If aliens are so fucking terrifying and powerful and cool, how is it not your responsibility? You're just a fucking Congress person. You're not that big of a deal. Who fucking cares? Throw out all your alien knowledge. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 01:00:01 Get in trouble? There are aliens to protect you. The funny thing, too, is that he's on, he's doing an interview on some show. Yeah. And he starts by saying, like, I'm still in Congress, so I can't tell you what I saw. Fuck off. I mean tell you you'd never sleep at night. Fuck off.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah. Fuck off. Oh my God. If you actually aren't like going to say anything. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Don't tell me how you're not going to kill yourself.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Even if you're, yeah, that's crazy. To even say the second part, if you saw what I saw you would never sleep is to admit either you're hiding it from us because you're a coward or it's not real and you're a liar. Yeah, and you're just trying to get attention. Yep. And that's probably close to. what it, the... Yeah, probably more the latter.
Starting point is 01:00:46 But also, I would assume he's a coward, too. But he's implying that there's aliens up in space with crafts and all that stuff. And Alex wants you to know, that's bullshit. Oh, okay. So here's the congressman saying, just when he got briefed on the show in two weeks ago would curl your hair.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Now, I know most of what Congress has been given from all my research and sources have been proven to be accurate like dark journalist, Daniel Liz. Dark news? Bull crap. The idea that there's all these aliens from trillions of miles away, just flying around and tin cans doing all this.
Starting point is 01:01:23 No, that's not how it happens. You always think of an alien invasion like that. It's a cheesy movie came out over a decade ago, but remember Pacific Rim? It's entertaining, though. Just say you like the movie. What the fuck is wrong with you? In spaceships from Mars,
Starting point is 01:01:41 they interdimensionally come through a vortex in the core of the Earth. And they're here to terraform and take over our planet. I'm not saying that's real. I'm saying think like that. Okay, that's how this works. So we should think like Pacific Rim. Yeah. I would like to just say to Alex, like, I think that you maybe put too much stock into movies
Starting point is 01:02:06 and then feel ashamed about how stupid you sound talking about how they're real. Yeah. Big stuff's coming. I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel. Thank you. Yeah. I appreciate that you feel the breakthrough coming. Well done, Dan.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Well done. So. Well done. So Alex, you know, the BS is the UFOs and the ships and that stuff. Right, it's coming from inside the house. Yes. Yeah. The UFOs, that's our stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Right. We made those ships. We're the only people who need to fly. Right. Yeah. And the demons told us how to make it. That's a good point. From the beginning, all this gray alien tinker toy flying saucers flying saucers flying
Starting point is 01:02:45 around shooting down airplanes and stuff. That's advanced human technology given to them interdimensionally by the bad guys. built. That's why suddenly it's more and more advanced. Suddenly it's these little tinker toys or fall in the sky, have big problems, but still have amazing. Big problems. Big problems. Oh, the aliens suddenly have these really advanced ships. No, there are ships.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Almost all of them. Almost. The real aliens aren't flying around on ships, boys and girls. They've mastered time and space, and I mean, mastered it. And those are the angels. And there's the good ones and there's the bad ones. But the good ones will not intervene unless you seek it out and have free will and have the right reason for it.
Starting point is 01:03:34 The bad ones, snap your fingers, they'll show up. So don't try it. I love how Alex said to make that caveat there where the angels show up if you use your free will and you have a good reason to ask them something. Right. Now if his listeners pray for an angel to come help them out and nothing happens, they can blame themselves for not having a good enough reason. It's a classic dodge and one of the best. It's brilliant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So yeah. Yep. Yep. If he doesn't solve your problem, it's because you're not pious enough. Definitely not because I am lying to you. Please give me $50. Now, all of these UFOs are chips that demons gave us the specs for in the spectral, ethereal realm.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I know you think you understand this thing, but actually you don't. It's a lot like what you understand, but it's more and better because I think it. Yeah. It's weird how that works. So, Bruchette, um, Alex doesn't want to throw him out. You know, like, he doesn't want to be like this guy is evil. He seems like he's probably a good man.
Starting point is 01:04:35 All right. But maybe he's just got bad info. It's possible. I think he's a good man. But at the same time, is he being given this information? But remember, Trump is going to go in and look at Fort Knox. Didn't do it. We're going to release all the upseat files.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Todd Blanche went on TV and said they released them all. They didn't. It's a lie. So, it's a lie. it's all about keeping knowledge from the public saying we can't handle it when in truth we have corrupt elites fighting over the technologies and information to control us but at the higher levels the shadowy groups above the intelligence agencies and governments the big corporations that really run it all that you see evidence by the Epstein files
Starting point is 01:05:18 they know how to get in contact and it's just like in the golden child with Eddie Murphy when I've heard basically described by these people is they don't need DMT drugs any of it. They just get out their prayer mat, they sit down, and then the walls disappear, and they're getting their directives right there. Do they need the prayer mat? That seems unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:05:49 That seems more like that pod that Vader was in. So Alex has heard that devil worshippers can commune with demons, just like that Eddie Murphy movie, the Golden Child. It's really specific how many movies are important. Maybe too many. Maybe too many movies are important. It's excessive on this episode. It is quite a few number of movies, almost as if he's doing a complete abdication of any kind of knowledge of what's going on at all.
Starting point is 01:06:12 I get that Alex is trying to say that maybe Representative Burchett means well, but is being fed disinformation about aliens. But the two examples that Alex uses of disinformation that Trump used in the past are things that he absolutely bought into. Yep. Alex said that Trump was going to release the Epstein files and that he was going to audit Ford Knox. He can put on a little voice and mock the idea of someone buying those ideas, but it doesn't change that he was the one selling them. Alex must have either believed Trump when he said he was going to release the files and audit the gold, in which case Alex got tricked by an idiot and has the worst instincts on earth.
Starting point is 01:06:46 True. Or he knew that was disinformation and decided to sell it to his audience anyway. Yeah. Regardless of what the truth is, like no one has any reason they should take him seriously. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. If you, I'm not saying that you can't.
Starting point is 01:07:00 be mad at them because we're all mad at them. But if you are like, I think Trump is a good guy, you no longer get to tell me who you think the corrupt elites are. You are no longer trustworthy. Now let me, let me. You should just listen to me when I say somebody's a corrupt elite. Let me take you a little bit further. Yeah. If you told me that Trump was daddy and he was home and he was going to spank me. Yep. Shut up. You should probably no longer speak anymore. You have no ground to stand on. Yeah. How is Tucker feeling about his spankings? Yeh. Not good? Daddy is mean. Daddy's mean?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Tucker doesn't like to... You know, it's almost as though developing a society based upon a paternalistic point of view is actually a fucking dumb and idiotic thing to do. Daddy's home and he's pissed. Oh no, he bombed her on.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Maybe you're an idiot. Maybe you're just an idiot. So look, man, enough of the bullshit. We're talking about aliens. Let's get to the real world. Alex has got to get into the war news. All right. So let me go over the war news here.
Starting point is 01:07:56 War news. We are seeing more let's just say this incorrect information from President Trump that's a Black Hawk no that's a Black Hawk
Starting point is 01:08:17 So there's a lot of this going on That's a Black Hawk That's a Black Hawk He's trying to identify a helicopter In a video that someone's playing Why not? So this is an editorial choice Alex is making Where he's resisting saying that Trump is lying
Starting point is 01:08:32 We are seeing more incorrect information from Trump. Hmm. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that Alex has already said that Trump is lying about this stuff, so I don't get what the upside of playing cute like this is. Because he's already accused Trump of lying, it just comes off like him trying to hedge his bets and cover for a liar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:51 This looks worse than just committing to the fuck this guy he's lying about war. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, you know what? I'll throw this out there. There's a long tradition of that. There's a long tradition. You never heard like No, it's from the war.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Everything's going poorly. Now watch this movie. No, that's not how it worked. No, they gave you like, everybody's doing great. Give us some more money. Yari, rah, rah, rah, and then you watch the movie. Right. And I think that Alex has a long career and a long history of no one really
Starting point is 01:09:20 like forcing continuity on him. Yeah, there is that. Like he doesn't have to deal with anything he said the day before. War is still going despite what I said the day before. Whoops, no, it's not. To an in tomorrow. where there'll be an emergency. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:09:37 So it turns out the war news is mostly about leftist shitting on Alex. How about that? What a weird war. I'm not even here. I don't want Trump to fail. I didn't want Trump to go sideways. I've seen the leftist talking point. I don't have time to watch a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:09:52 But I mean, all over TV, all over the Internet, all the top internet talk show hosts. Top Internet talk show liberals. Millions of viewers are allegations. Jones admits he's wrong. Alex Jones admits Trump was always bad and he needs to come out and admit it's his fault. No. We got a lot of good things done with Trump
Starting point is 01:10:14 and shut down a lot of your evil agendas and did stop a lot of wars. And now we're horrified that Trump's going sideways like you. You guys are openly evil. So Alex is getting his stories mixed up because there aren't supposed to be leftists with millions of viewers online. Yeah. Americana populism is supposed to be the
Starting point is 01:10:38 only thing that can actually draw a crowd, but I guess Alex wouldn't feel very big or important if he said a bunch of losers with no audience. We're criticizing him online. Yeah. So we're the show that gives Alex unsolicited advice. So I'd like to explain the only way he could have played the current situation and come out ahead. I feel comfortable revealing this now because it's too late. Too late? And I don't think he could pull it off anyway. Yeah. For all of his career, Alex has been a guy who's been aggressively opposed to the federal government. And the biggest hurdle that he's been up against is that the government kind of worked pretty well. It got a lot of shit wrong.
Starting point is 01:11:12 It served the interests of the rich over the general public and it waged a lot of war. But in terms of functioning, it was pretty reliable. There's a complacency that comes with that reliability. And most people would be unwilling to rock the boat in a way that fundamentally changed the structure of government, taking power away from the federal government and giving more to the states because there was more to risk. That's stability. Yep.
Starting point is 01:11:34 There was a very small window where Alex could have come out and said that the last 10 years of his life were an act of desperation, trying to bring in the living embodiment of why federal power can't be allowed to be unchecked. He could cop to lying constantly to promote Trump and explain that it was the only choice he had left to wake up the sheeple. The Iraq war didn't cause a revolution. The banker bailouts didn't cause a revolution. So the only thing that possibly could is actually bringing in a tyrant. He could show remorse and he could effectively write off any criticism of him from 2015 onward. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Anytime anybody said that he should be held responsible for some lie that he told to promote Trump, he could say they were taking him out of context and it was part of a bigger picture. Yep. It would be bullshit, but it would work on some people and it could give him enough breathing room to rebrand. Right. And it would be a perfect, like, thing for him to go away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Like he could drop a video explaining that leave for a couple months and come back with a or something like, I don't know. Yep. New character. Dark Alex. Yeah. I would never support the dissolution of the federal government because all that would do is abandon people in various states to have their rights and labor protections taken away.
Starting point is 01:12:48 But I definitely don't view the position of the federal government the same way that I did in 2017. I think it's more easily and dangerously corruptible than I had previously imagined. And Alex's guy has shown that. I think that if he owned that and pretended that he did it, on purpose, he'd probably be able to trick a fair amount of people who are entertaining newer ideas about small government, libertarianism, and anarchy into thinking like, oh, this guy, wow, what a, whoa. He had us all fooled.
Starting point is 01:13:21 He seemed so on board. Yeah, they didn't have the polymarket stuff. They didn't have the betting stuff in 2017. Otherwise, I would have fucking cleaned a house right now. Well, they did overseas, right? Because Barnes was. Yeah, that's right. Barnes was doing a lot of gambling.
Starting point is 01:13:35 I would have cleaned house. Bummer. You should have talked to Robbie. There's just, yeah, there's just no point in, yeah, no, what's you going to do? But I was thinking about that, and I do think that's, Alex's, that would have worked. Probably, it would have worked enough. It wouldn't have worked on the people it wasn't going to work on anyways. But neither is this.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Exactly. This isn't going to work on anybody. Yeah, and I think that the path that I described, it has the highest likelihood of possibly finding new customers. Yeah. Because I think that you would open, you'd blow people's minds.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. That's the only way in to the info war. And people would, yeah, and you, you can, like he can identify how stupid everybody is already.
Starting point is 01:14:20 He can see that they're, they're writing like, oh, Alex finally turns on Trump, like, who fucking cares, right? Get them to write some other shit. Get them to write like, Alex was fucking with us the whole time.
Starting point is 01:14:30 They'd love that shit. They'd eat that shit up. Yeah, like he could try and, he could say, something around the way of I have a hundred thousand DHS or whatever I was playing this all along in order to illustrate to you that this is so close
Starting point is 01:14:47 he's even there's even clips that we that he could play of him knowing about Trump and all that shit that he could be like hey listen I warned you about this then and then I decided I made a conscious decision to fuck all of you because fuck all of you but I did it as an act of going under deep cover in order to save all of you. Sure, yeah, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:15:08 He would be able to, like, have, like, you know, some kind of an act of, like, false contrition. It's as believable as anything he did the 10 years before that, so why the fuck not? Yeah. Right? I think it would have sold. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Anyway, everyone's saying that he's ditching Trump because the numbers are down. Ooh. The left is saying that Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and we're all abandoning Trump because his approval ratings down and we just want to some. support somebody popular. Law to support Obama.
Starting point is 01:15:38 That was the case. No, we want someone that saves the country in the world. We want someone that reverses the leftist globalist satanic policies. Alex said that Obama had record low approval ratings. Listen, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:15:52 But this actually gets to a key point. I think that some people would be inclined to say that Alex is ditching Trump because Trump's numbers are down. But that's an oversimplification. Alex is ditching Trump for two reasons. The first is that he's been repeatedly and fundamentally humiliated by Trump in ways that the audience won't ignore anymore. Alex can say Trump is going to release the Epstein files and then when Trump doesn't, Alex's audience wonders if they're on the same page.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Alex can say that Trump isn't going to attack Iran, but when Trump then attacks Iran, Alex's audience knows damn well that they're not on the same page. The illusion that Alex has any sway over the administration and by proxy, Alex's audience has any sway over the administration is gone. He's not a useful figurehead for the Info War anymore because he obviously doesn't give a shit about you or any of the things that you pretend to stand for. The second is that Alex probably knows that Trump is about to do some flagrantly bad shit and he needs to prepare to distance himself from it. He's posting threats on social media to kill the entire civilization of Iran in one night, so it's hard to act like he's not threatening nuclear war, even for Alex. Beyond that, he has to know that if he leaves office, he'll likely die in prison. And so we have no idea what could happen if he's impeached or if we get to the 2028 election and he decides that he's not going anywhere. Like Alex is in a position where he has to not be on board by that point.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Here's, I'll tell you this. Polymarket is not allowing you to write down end of American democracy in 2028. Interesting. Yeah. I'm really pissed off about that one because I would clean house. Right. And I think that Alex knows like based on what's happening that he needs to be in the White House or away from it. when the point of no return comes.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's growing ever closer and he's not getting in the door. Yep, yep. A lot of the shit that Trump did up until now has been kind of fun for Alex because there was a plausible counterweight in the form of the Democrats and the ghost of the Constitution. Now it's not fun because there doesn't appear to be any power within the United States that can check Trump. So the only thing that could do that seems to be a power outside of the United States.
Starting point is 01:18:02 and that means war. Yep. And Alex doesn't want to be on the side of America in a war. Right. He doesn't want to be on the side against America. Right. Yeah. None of Trump's actions have been deal breakers for Alex, though.
Starting point is 01:18:15 This is important to understand. He was fine going along with covering up Epstein, overthrowing Maduro, and he would have been fine with bombing Iran if it had not gone poorly. Yeah. His change in tone is caused by feedback and negative reaction to the stuff Trump is doing, but the approval rating. is the wrong metric to act like he cares about.
Starting point is 01:18:35 It's the pill sales. Yeah. He can't maintain the audience and keep up with Trump. That's it. Yep. Money. It's money. The idea, I mean, I was thinking about this in the context of the protests, which
Starting point is 01:18:51 are delightful. But if you're not fucking with their money, they don't care. Like, that's just the, like, no matter how loud and like, where all they're all If you're not fucking with their money, they're not, they don't care. I think in a lot of cases, that's probably true. That's like, that's a, that's the message, you know. And to be clear with Alex, it's money and, like, analogs of money. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:15 So, like, Twitter attention and that kind of stuff that sort of vaguely translates to money is kind of in the same. Powers, money, you know, that, all of those things, all of that influence is, is what money is in a way. And Trump's fucking with that now. Trump is really fucking with that. Yeah. He's positioned Alex in a place where he can't really move forward with him. I mean, but I just, I can't do it anymore. How do these people still do it?
Starting point is 01:19:41 How is it that you've still got that template around that, like I would just hang on to it. If I was a journalist, I would hang on to the Alex turns on Trump template and just have a mad libs for whatever's going on that day, right? Like, how do you not go, Alex is lying again? He'll change his mind in a few years. don't trust this motherfucker. Right. Right? The headline should be, uh, yeah, like, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Or there shouldn't be a headline. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there just shouldn't be. Meaningless. These people are, everything they're saying is meaningless. What's happening today is meaningless. It's so appealing to have the like delight in what appears to be like a meaningful downfall.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Of course. But it's not meaningful. It is not meaningful. And what you are getting is empty, awful calories. Yeah. And, uh, you know, you were saying it's all about money and, uh, kind of, Tucker has done what he's done out of a feeling of responsibility. Not for clicks, not for access.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Tucker isn't speaking out against the president because that's popular. Leftists don't buy anything. They don't buy your nicotine pouches. They don't buy your supplements. The left's not my audience. I'm not catering to them. I cater to the truth. I don't cater to quote right wing or anything.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I just go, what's the most accurate thing? how do I get it right? And I say it. That accidental reveal almost makes you feel bad. It's easy to claim that you don't cater to a specific audience in order to sell stuff, but that image is hard to maintain when you demonstrate that you're clearly aware that you're only able to sell stuff to the side that you weirdly always take. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Alex and Tucker know that they aren't going to pick up any left-leaning customers, which is why they have to chase the right-wing audience who are increasingly done with Trump. Yep. and they need to follow wherever these people go and pretend that they're leading them. Yeah. It is wild to really dig into how many of these people think that they're the ones who are like the thought leaders and all that shit. And reality is like they just chase after what a bunch of people are thinking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah. And, you know, maybe there are contributions they make in terms of thought leadership. But regurgitating stuff from the smaller people into the larger mainstream, really. with a bullhorn. Exactly. Yeah. So Alex talks a little bit about the radio. Sure.
Starting point is 01:22:02 And how these big radio networks, they're owned by Israel. They're the ones that are influencers. They're the ones that get paid to say what they say. And by the way, it's on the right wing, too. You know, coming up, there was huge criticism by the Salem Media Company. It's Powerful Talk Radio Block and multimedia. They've got some good host on there. I'm not going to say they're all back as they're on there.
Starting point is 01:22:25 But they've been going to say they're all back as they're on there. But they've been. calling Carlson, Katarlson, and saying he's a foreign agent, should be put in prison, a bunch of them. And it turns out that Salem, I don't do this 20 years ago, but specifically, and the director of it,
Starting point is 01:22:38 all of them, are on huge contracts to the Israeli government. Sure. And Israel said, six months ago, we're going to increase our funding in the U.S. and the Eighth Front War to pay for propaganda. So there they are,
Starting point is 01:22:56 calling Tucker a foreign agent, and they call me that and all this other ridiculous crap, and you're literally Salem, and I've got all the documents here. So I don't know what it even means to, like, be on the Israeli payroll anymore, but it's no secret that Salem media has a relationship with the state of Israel. They've organized annual Stand With Israel tours since 2015. The 2015 tour was a 10-day trip. It was headlined by radio host Mike Gallagher and Joe Piscopo. none of this is at all shocking or even really that scandalous it was reported on about six months ago that salem had filed with farah because they had accepted six million dollars from the israeli government but it's important to understand what happened here and the fact that we know this because they filed with the foreign agents registration act there is that so salem's chief strategy officer was brad parskale who was trump's head of digital operations during the 2016 election and then campaign manager
Starting point is 01:23:56 in 2020. Parscali was the person who got the $6 million from the Israeli government who registered with Fara because he's an executive at the media organization who's being paid by a foreign government to advocate for their interests. It's not controversial or news to say that Salem Media has a relationship with Israel, but the particular news Alex is talking about is a story about one of Trump's very close associates from back in the time when Trump was supposed to have been cool. Yep.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Who is the one who took the money? Alex doesn't like Salem because they didn't syndicate his show back in the day, but also because he thinks that Mark Levin works for them. He doesn't realize that Levin's on Westwood One, which is owned by Cumulus, who also didn't syndicate out his show. But I understand why he'd be better. Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I feel like we're in a, we're in a too old to begin the training kind of situation.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Right. Like if you're trying to tell me about corporations controlling syndicated media as a problem now, fucking too late, buddy, too late. We're way past when you should have noticed that. Yeah. I tried to protest back in the days of Jack FM. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Come on, buddy.
Starting point is 01:25:11 That ship sailed. Yep. I mourned the death of radio. Alex killed it. Yeah, absolutely. So, Alex, you know, there's a lot of people who are saying that, like, you're only turning on Trump because you care about money. Sure. And that's true. Yes. But then Alex interprets care about money in a way that makes it not true.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Okay. And it is horrifying that that is happening. This is openly going on. And when I say this, people say, oh, you just care about money. What does that mean? What does that mean? The globalists know we're on the edge of bankruptcy is a country. They want us to go into the Great Reset, like a third world country under their control. Trump has a great recovery plan that has a great shot of turning around, but not if you close the straight over a year ago, and now it's done it, and it's creating a shockwave that most economists think will already mess up Trump's recovery currently. But it keeps going, for sure. It's about economic bondage. Economic freedom is about economic mobility. You know the old song, I owe my soul to company's store, whether you were a sharecropper in Alabama or East Texas or whether you were in West Virginia a coal miner, you had to live basically on a company
Starting point is 01:26:33 rented shack. You had to buy your food from the company store as part of your contract so they could gouge you and everything else. And that's how they controlled you. It's slavery by another name. Intigent servitude. And that's why I hate communism. That's why.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Yeah, I'm worried about the money. about our country going bankrupt. And that's why with horror, I didn't want to criticize Trump too much. I mean, I'd say the bad stuff he was doing to get him to correct. Because I was looking at all the good stuff and saying, you know, we've got to keep that going. It's night and day the Democrats. This is classic weenie stuff. Yeah, this is very weenie.
Starting point is 01:27:18 So Alex's intention of conflating two types of caring about money. One is wanting everyone to have more economic freedom, which is a nice concern to have. Alex has the other kind, though, which is that he knows. knows that no one on the left buys his shit. So if he doesn't get his act together and find some new way to entertain the avant-garde Nazis on social media, he's going to go broke. Yep. Company stores are a bad idea and mostly only thrived in the period before people had wider access to cars, so they couldn't really get anywhere else to shop anyway. But there's no reason that Alex should be against them.
Starting point is 01:27:53 If he loves the free market, then who's the government to say that a company can't offer their employees credit at their stores that can come out of their paychees? checks. This is a free arrangement between individuals. Yeah. I know it sounds kind of crazy to say the companies should be allowed to pay their employees in special fake money that's only good at their stores, but Alex is a firm believer in a person's right to enter whatever contract they want. That's why there shouldn't be a minimum wage because it makes it illegal for someone to offer their labor to someone for cheaper than the minimum. It kills competition. If an employee agrees to do a job that pays in monopolies, money, they must be doing that because it's in their self-interest to do it, just like the person
Starting point is 01:28:36 who would accept a job for 75 cents an hour. Sounds true. Company stores are a great example of how the free market doesn't actually exist, because exploitation is always a factor. And they illustrate how unless people can collectively bargain, labor always has a disadvantageous position compared to the owners. And also, Alex is in favor of, like, Elon Musk owning Mars bases. Yep.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Do you think there's going to be a lot of diversity and competition and commerce in moon bases and Mars bases? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is the thing that's going to happen. And it's going to be the worst and most annoying thing that happens in the next year. And then after that, people will go back to doing what they do. But like the, I'm turning on Trump, but I am not at all changing anything that I believe ideologically whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I was totally right. the whole time. I was totally right. Now it's bad, but that's not my fault. I was still right. I was always right. Now, I admit, right now things aren't good. So I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:29:38 But then the moment I can't, the moment I get the chance to not be with you, I'm gone. This is bullshit. Yep. It's the most annoying bullshit ever. I mean, it's just a different flavor of that Glenn back apology to her that people fell for. Yep. And I don't think anyone's going to fall for Alex's version of it. No.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I think everyone's kind of bored. But some people could be more successful than others. There are going to be a lot of people who are successful. Yeah. Yep. So Trump, you know, he said some things. Sure. And maybe one of them was really bad.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Oh. I've got to get really mad at Trump. I got to go on his ass and I've got to get my huge audience of activists who I know agree with me. The audience just wanting me to push harder and I agree. Because letting Trump continue on his road is not good. and then statements like well you know we can't help fund Medicare and Medicaid anymore we got to worry about war
Starting point is 01:30:34 and then the new budget cuts a bunch of that because it's got to go to the war shocker well we should get rid of Medicare and Medicaid it is communism yeah but you gotta wean people off and it's political death to do that and if we're going to give trillions of these wars and crap
Starting point is 01:30:52 we can give billions to old people okay I mean cut the illegal aliens off fuck off you know we got a bunch of people don't know how to take care of themselves or they're old and sick and disabled, we'll get to them last, we'll phase it out. We'll probably not, you don't, you don't cut that off. Plus, you lose the midterm saying that. This is simultaneously desperate and refreshingly honest. The GOP always wants to cut social welfare spending and increase war budgets, but everyone knows that Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security are incredibly popular and are keeping much of the country alive. So it's very
Starting point is 01:31:25 taboo to just come out and admit that you want to slash it. The GOP relies on a lot of voters who are on the older side, and there's a lot of polling about how they care a lot about these programs not being destroyed, so it's always been considered kind of political suicide to just say it. Yep. They all have to lie about their intentions because they know that they would lose a ton of support if they told people what they're actually voting for. Yep.
Starting point is 01:31:51 On a very basic level, Alex is acknowledging that the only way the police is, you know, the only way the political positions he wants are going to win in an election is if they lie about what they want to do. And I think that's true. I think he's right. It is nice of him to remind us because it's very hard for us to understand and remember this because they're very good at what they do. But everybody voting an election wants the exact same thing.
Starting point is 01:32:16 There's a lot more overlap than people think. Tons of overlap. It is just whose bullshit you are buying at any given point in time? And that's kind of the reality. That's a big part. That's at least a swing. You know of it? You know what?
Starting point is 01:32:29 I've got to go ahead and say, fuck them. Fuck you. Yeah. Get rid of Medicare, Medicaid. Get rid of all of it. You guys earned it. Too bad. Too bad.
Starting point is 01:32:38 This is your daddy talking. Time to spank you. But also, like, Alex can't, he can't be like, we'll phase it out. I'm principally opposed to this. This is communism. Yeah. I want to destroy it, but we must do it slowly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:54 What are you talking? to wean people off. That's bullshit. Yeah, that's cowardly bullshit. Yeah. How dare you? Own the position. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:33:01 I want to get, now I want to get rid of it because you don't want to. I want it gone now. Yeah, I think that Alex has gotten a little bit less willing to, you know, stake things that are very, very unpopular since the Ron Paul days. Right? Like Ron Paul, God bless him. Said a number of...
Starting point is 01:33:19 Said some unpopular shit. Hell yeah. He advocated for a lot of positions that were like, well, that's just crazy. Yeah. That'll kill a lot of people. Yeah, well, you know what? Fuck them. Yeah, on principle.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Here we are. Now we're here. So I would ask you to imagine, bring into your head the picture of Trump as a horse. Okay. I don't like calling Trump a liar. I have fought. I have paid. I have been through hell.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And we've gotten so much done with him. But he's going sideways. And it'd be like a horse you had for 10 years. Your favorite horse. You're into horses. Sweet horse, smart horse, fun horse. Feed it. It's feeding apples.
Starting point is 01:34:01 And then one day you're sitting there brushing it, and the horse just turns around and bites you right on the nose and bites half your nose off. Horses to do that. And you're just sitting there blood pouring out. You don't kill the horse. You just sell it. Well, Trump's an important horse because he can destroy the world.
Starting point is 01:34:19 What? And so he just basically bit us for no reason. So the problem with his metaphor is that the only reason Trump was their favorite horse was that he was biting people constantly, and they thought it was funny to watch people get bit. Yeah. For years, the horse biting people wasn't an issue, but now they got bit,
Starting point is 01:34:36 and all of a sudden, horses biting people is something that needs to be taken very seriously. Yeah. Oh, no, my nose. You have a biting horse. Yeah. You love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah. So let's see. Let's take the count on previous Republican presidents who have lied us into a war. We got that one. We got the one before that. We got the one before that. The one before that.
Starting point is 01:34:59 And the one before that. Yep. So five for five, right? And two of them are in the same family. Five for fighting. Five for, yeah, there we go. Five for five dollars. Footlong.
Starting point is 01:35:13 No. So Alex has finally had enough. Trump is saying that he's going to get rid of Medicare before the midterms. Sure. Totally destroying the Republicans' chances of winning. Oh, no. So he must have dementia. There we go.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Trump requests $1.5 trillion for military spending and says, sorry, can't help with Medicare and Medicaid. If you're going to do that, then at least don't say it. Oh, it's T.D.S. No, it's what he calls not caring is what I call early onset dementia. All of a sudden, Trump's straight shooting is a sign of dementia? I thought part of the allure he had as a politician is he told it like it is. Like when he said he knew that Hillary was corrupt because he paid her off in New York. That wasn't dementia. That was just a guy cutting through the bullshit. But now he's accurately articulating the right-wing position on government spending
Starting point is 01:36:08 and Alex thinks he's got dementia all of a sudden? Yep. And again, Alex's problem isn't that Trump is increasing military spending and cutting social welfare programs. The problem is that he's saying it out loud. Yep. The media surrogates are supposed to have plausible deniability about this stuff because war is super unpopular. and social security is super popular. It's really, really funny to realize that at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:36:34 he just wants Trump to be more presidential. Yep. Just be a fucking politician guy who we voted for as a protest candidate. Just lie to us. Tell us it's going to be all right while you steal and rob us all blind. That's what we want. We want to be feeling comfortable while you fucking rob us. That's all we want.
Starting point is 01:36:54 What you're doing is too difficult. for us to work with as talk show hosts. Yep. You don't have any real accountability left. You don't really have to ever have an election again. Nope. You're never going to get impeached and you can probably. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:37:08 I hope they try. That would be the funniest. That would be the funniest day. But like he's apparently just going to be rich forever. But someone like Alex, he actually like, you know, eventually the money is going to run up. Yeah. He needs to, he needs public approval. and he can't spin, we're going to put all of your medication money into a war.
Starting point is 01:37:32 He can't do that. No, that's usually not going to be popular. It sucks. I think we should actually shoot him into space. And I mean this genuinely. I think it is a good idea for us to shoot, I put him into a rocket with whatever life support you want. I don't give a shit. And just fire it into space.
Starting point is 01:37:52 That way there's a symbol that no one can ever do. this shit again. Otherwise, we'll fire you into space. Send him to Mars and tell him he gets to be the Elon. Absolutely. It's all yours, buddy. Land as nice as you like. Well, I think that that's costly and I think that, you know, it's a difficult thing to pull off. And Alex has a counter suggestion, which is that, you know, Trump should probably just take a day off. Take a little me day. Sure. Maybe pray a little bit. Maybe pray a little. It's time to pray. at 50 something I feel like I got you know I'm kind of like ooh and people my family said do you remember what you did last that wouldn't be something bad
Starting point is 01:38:30 but I'd like say something or do something I don't remember that no drinking no nothing just exhausted work 20 hours do not make good decisions when I've been working 20 hours he's 79 he's Superman he's not saying he's got a personal nuclear reactor running him but he ain't Superman in the real world he call him Superman but not really Superman Trump should really take a few days off and just pray and just think about this. Pray for President Trump, and I'm dead serious when I say that. Because we had repudiated the left. There's a global awakening. Populism was winning. We're in the fourth turning. Great things are happening. And I want to salvage Trump. I'm going to criticize him. I'm going to give it to him with both perils,
Starting point is 01:39:16 but it's from a place of love for all of us, including him. These people that were never Trumpers and said, damn Trump, screw to Trump. I hate Trump, put Trump in prison. That's all his best buddies now. Yeah, we're running out of fertilizer, folks. Who cares if you want to salvage Trump? Why? Why do you want to? This is nonsense. Just fucking, for God's sakes, everybody,
Starting point is 01:39:39 get into the Oval Office, shut the doors and the windows, hit him in the head with a paperweight, and then call, oh, he's sick. And then just we move on with our fucking lives. Everybody will go, oh, thank God. And then we'll go. We'll just go. You can go back to being a piece of shit
Starting point is 01:39:55 who's racist and all that shit. We just got to start from somewhere. We just hit him in the head with a paperweight. Something. I mean, it's cheaper than the space shuttle idea. More expensive probably than the prayer. Yeah, that's definitely true. So Alex is still the most fiscally responsible option.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah, and the White House, the paperweights are going to be, you know, they're not just like a snow globe somebody bought from the airport. No. You got to replace it. It might be an antique. It's probably got George Washington's fingerprints on it. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:24 Which you could frame him. I mean, if you got that fingerprint on to Trump. I think honestly, you should have to hit him with something, with like an artifact from the founding fathers. Like, this is George Washington's sword. We are using it to fucking prune the tree of liberty for fuck's sake. Yeah, who would you use? The problem is nobody killed King George. That should have been how the revolution ends.
Starting point is 01:40:51 And then we keep something as a memento. Yeah, that, I mean, it would strike a certain amount of fear, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No Kings, I mean it. I fucking mean no Kings, my man. We'd never wash the blade. No, we keep it there. So, look, we're joking around here about killing kings and what have you.
Starting point is 01:41:12 But Alex, he's talking about, you know, the idea of ground troops in Iran. Right. And he reads a headline that his take on it as deeply disturbing. Iran beefs up defenses recruits children as prepares for ground war and idiots go, oh, kids, you think a 12-year-old, 13-year-old with a grenade launcher and a machine gun that's trained on it is they're worse than adults historically because they just are fearless. Child soldiers are nothing to turn your nose up on.
Starting point is 01:41:57 But people that don't study war think it's a joke. I think Alex says the wrong take on child. soldiers? Does he think I think it's a joke in the sense like, ha, ha, ha, can you believe this child would have a gun? Yeah, we could, any adult could beat a child if they both have a gun. I think he really does not understand how we feel about child soldiers generally. And he's like the guy who would do Save the Children rallies and all that shit.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Like, he shouldn't be arguing on the axis of should you be afraid of child soldiers? You got to fear those fuckers. Those people don't even give a shit, man. you and I are afraid of mortality, they don't know it exists. Yeah. He should be disgusted just by the fact that this exists. That's a prospect. As opposed to be like, here's what you've missed.
Starting point is 01:42:43 You think it's funny. Those are super soldiers. You are Kurt rustling your ass out there if you think this is going to go okay. Children don't have a governor. They don't know when to stop. They have no souls. Man. What a wild episode.
Starting point is 01:42:57 A fucked up asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep. So Trump, he said that shit about Medicare and all the war economy and stuff. He said some other things, too, that Alex is having a tough time with. All right. I got a thousand data points times a thousand, but it's just, you're smart to. Come on. Trump is actually the president right now, but if you can influence him, you can do bad things.
Starting point is 01:43:19 He would say, you know, I have evil people can manipulate me and God, you're evil. And he's like, you know, you're evil as shit, but then you suck my weenie. sorry he didn't really said you know what I mean metaphysically sorry get the clip clip 31 year stay it doesn't sound real and I'm on the show saying Trump is influenced by evil people he can be manipulated they go they go boss you didn't look at your full list we put I didn't see the clip they go he says that I said who's he said it to and they go we think it's Levin which it was Levin later we learn
Starting point is 01:43:51 and it's just like Twilight Zone music is cute in my head I love people who are nice to me even if they're bad people I'll do anything for them It is the most perfect reference. It should be Twilight Zone music you're hearing. You are hearing the music of Be Careful What You Wish for. That's like 40% of all Twilight Zone episodes is just, Hey, I bet you wished for this thing and now you wish you hadn't.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Yeah, it's the Fantasy Island. You're now getting treated by Trump like he treats everyone. Now you figured it out. Congratulations. He's run out of other people to spank with his belt because he's home and he's angry. There was time now. Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:35 I think that is right up there with, I like to hang out with losers. Yep. Bad people who are nice to me. I love being around them. Yep. They can get me to do anything. He might as well just be like, hey, you got to give it up to the Somali pirates. Hey, one of my dear, dear friends is Roger Stone and Jeffrey Epstein because they were nice to me.
Starting point is 01:44:54 They're pieces of shit, but they were real nice to me. Oh, man. Can you believe people thought he was, oh, boy. Good times. Yeah. So Alex comes back from break. And he's feeling honest. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:09 And it's an honest mood where he talks about honesty. All the listeners and viewers who I respect and I appreciate to know, you've got a 100% commitment from me to tell you exactly what I think the truth is and nothing else. But I don't do it for you. I do it for God. When I tell the truth in my soul, I feel warm and good and close to God. when I even war games sometimes is it best not to say this for the greater good
Starting point is 01:45:42 in justifies the means I feel the Holy Spirit start pulling away a little bit and I'm like ooh no just do what's right that's the most sophisticated thing don't think about what it's going to do doing the right thing's always the right thing may not be at the moment may be painful
Starting point is 01:45:59 but in the end it's the right thing to do and things turn out better if you do I have not done a good job today. I've done a good job covering the news about to hit the real stuff here at the I hate him so much. But plugging. If I plug once an hour to a good plug, we have money to run the operation. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:46:16 You said he hate him way too early. You didn't know another haymaker was coming. Wow, that was a one too. Yeah. Damn. Wow. So the point Alex is trying to make is that he's always honest and he doesn't do that strategic communication stuff. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:32 God would literally make him feel bad if he pretended to have one position because he, knew that his real position was unpopular. Yeah. But repeatedly on this same episode, he's complained about Trump being too honest about his desire to cut Medicare. Yep. So, like, what is it, dude? Do as Trump does and not as I say.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Hmm. Hmm. Or, yep. Actually, that one does make more sense. Yeah. I think this is stupid. It's bad. Pretty nakedly manipulative.
Starting point is 01:46:59 The idea of him's, I mean, see, this is the problem with any kind of cosmic entity. whatever you believe they are or are not capable of. If there is something that exists out there with the probability of destruction via blasphemy, this dude's gone. Well, sure, but I think that, you know, that maybe this divine force doesn't intervene and they're just sitting up there like,
Starting point is 01:47:25 holy shit, when he dies, it's going to be bad. But do you see? You know, like maybe it's a waiting thing. Right, right. But with a guy like this, not intervening is the intervening. You know what I mean? Not getting this guy out of our, our hair is saying, check this out.
Starting point is 01:47:40 See what happens with this fucker, you know? So that's the problem with cosmic entities. Arguably, you can flip this around and say that not smiting him is a test of your faith. Is a test of my faith? Yeah. Okay. Because you have to live in a world where this guy doesn't have cosmic consequences. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Maybe? Yeah, sure. I don't know. Oh, that works. So Alex realizes that Pam Bondi has been fired. as the Attorney General, and the acting Attorney General is his arch nemesis. Right. I'm going to skip past that clip.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Because it's uneventful, and he's just disappointed. Yeah, that'll happen. Oh, sorry. I just thought of the Book of Job, like the idea of the Book of Job being me not getting tortured or anything like that. No, no death or anything. I just have to watch this fucker be fine. That is torture.
Starting point is 01:48:31 That's a solid torture. It's pretty close to your life. Yeah, that's a pretty good one. Well done. Well done. Ironic God. So ironic God is another twist for you. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:42 I thought it was a little bit suspicious. Alex's bringing up like this Gilgamesh stuff and all this nonsense. And we're going to talk for two hours about the creation of man. Seems strange. And it turns out this is just more brokered programming. Oh, fuck. Of course it is. It's just dark journalists.
Starting point is 01:48:59 You son of a bitch. God damn it. So Dark Journalist is on. Yeah. And he clearly sent Alex these things. Talking points. Yeah. So Alex has like sort of seeded the field for the crops to grow
Starting point is 01:49:15 while that dark journalist is here. But I think that Alex really doesn't like him. And it's pretty funny. But I'll tell you story and I haven't told. It was right before J6, like a month before we're having a rally, half the million people march. The day before or so, I'm walking down the street to go to a restaurant with my wife and crew.
Starting point is 01:49:37 And I'm not somebody that ever really has fear since I've been adult. And there's like a black SUV 50 yards ahead and three or four people come out in like black trench coats and I'm walking 50 yards of getting closer as they're talking and I've never had palpable fear shoved me back. My wife wasn't paying attention to the security guys. Like I revolted in fear and I looked at these people as they got in the car. and they were like, I'm not, people, I swear to God, this is true. Never told a story.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Like, looked like professional basketball players, but they were like seven feet tall. The biggest was like seven feet. I was like six feet. And I looked, they literally had like vampire ears, white skin. And the guy turned like a pig nose. And he had this, he had a, you know, a classic hat on whatever gangster had. And they look and duck into the car. And I was like, frozen.
Starting point is 01:50:32 My wife's like, what's going on? That's a true story. Like, it literally hit me like a fear. I don't normally feel. I felt like reviving. I was scared. That's a true story. So the only time I saw something like men and black was in D.C., broad daylight,
Starting point is 01:50:47 swear to God, I saw it. It's interesting how it's like a reality disruption also, the fear and the energy thing that you're talking about. So dark journalist talks for a little bit, and then Alex keeps interrupting him like, yeah, but what about the guys I saw? Yeah, come on. And play. Play the game.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Play with me. Journalist even explains like this group of people who looked kind of vaguely like Asians who are shorter and they are the people that are often considered to be the men in black and Alex is like, what about my guys? They're tall. Play with me. Play with me. Play with me.
Starting point is 01:51:19 I'm a big child. Play with me. I'm allowing you here. And Dark Journalist is doing basically everything right except two things. One, he's not playing. Yeah. And then two, he's saying no question about it. to every single thing Alex says.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Oh my God. And I think he's getting annoyed. Yeah. I think Alex is very annoyed with this guy. That's annoying. Yeah. So dark journalist believes that many of these people, like Representative Burchett and some of these other folks who were coming out and talking about UFOs, they may be a limited hangout.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Okay. This is part of a program, too, when things start to get hot and heavy. You look at people like Bertcett, Burleson, and Luna. They've all been brought forward as the UFO people, right? for some reason, they're congressional people who talk about UFOs. Now, there's no real interesting reason in the background why they should, but even Gates was in that program as well. So there's something in that loop.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I know there's a Florida connection because Rubio also talked about the UFO file. So there's something in the root of all this where they're trying to say, something in the background is saying there's a whole wave of this technology that's coming in. We're going to reveal this technology. And Vance is positioning himself as that. He is. There's no question about it. He's supposed to be the first, who's the one who can talk.
Starting point is 01:52:32 openly about it to a new generation and the only thing i think is fascinating about what he's doing is calling it a demon you see if you're a vp and you call a UFO's demons you are really you know that is a totally think about national security it's taking this guy's idea where is he coming from by saying UFOs are demons you know so when i think about you know that's wait what that's been war game that's been playing so in your opinion why is he doing that i think what they're trying to do they're they're going to reveal UFOs and they want to take the Christian audience, which is generally, we'll look at this and say, you know, it's outside of Christian purview with the UFO file.
Starting point is 01:53:09 But that's not actually true, but that's how they view it. And they say, we're going to be able to pull this in by saying, hey, they're interdimensional devils. We'll just pull them in this way. And that's how they're a threat. And therefore we have a war office. We're fighting demons. Alex believes that they're interdimensional demons.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Absolutely. One of them attacked Tucker in his sleep. Yeah. What the fuck is going on? We're at cross-purposes here. I mean, I appreciate your fucking hard sci-fi nerdy bullshit. I respect that. That's great.
Starting point is 01:53:40 But you got to understand we're working in also ethereal kind of more sandboxy kind of sci-fi. With the heavy fantasy element. Yeah. We're more YA. Do you understand what I'm saying? Elvineers and vampires. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:56 I think that this is the third reason Alex does not like dark journalist, which is I think there's something in his terms that are, I'm not into religion. And I think that maybe people who have religious beliefs are dumb. Yep. Yeah, yeah. He's exactly saying that. We have to trick the rubs. We're using him as a front piece to trick the rubs into accepting that demons are. are actually aliens, and it's totally fine to be a Christian and so forth.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Have a war on aliens who are demons. J.D. Vance is the limited hangout aspect of this that's normalizing this within Christian ideas, which is what Alex is doing, too. Right, right. Oops. So Alex asks him like, all right, man, who are the alien groups? I know there's like bug people. Sure.
Starting point is 01:54:51 And all that. Spider beings. Who do we got? All right. Let me ask you this from your research. and not getting into speculation, but just generally what's thought, because you have all these whistleblowers on talk shows, oh, I met with the reptoid, I met with the,
Starting point is 01:55:04 but they threatened to kill me, but it's obviously fake, you can see it. But looking at this versus interdimensional versus visitors versus whatever, what are the known, like who do we, who is it supposedly Eisenhower met with, or what is it? Well, I think you have off-world visitors. I don't think there's any question about that. But at the same time, if you go deep into it, you're going to find the Atlantean explanation for so much of this way.
Starting point is 01:55:31 It is actually a real breakaway civilization. The globalists say they're going to read high-tech reservations, keep us like animals at an agrarian level, and that the earth will just be like a nature preserve. As Jeff Bezos said, well, that already happened. I agree. They're humanoid, whatever. It's breakaway humans.
Starting point is 01:55:47 That's what most people I talk to say it is, that basically are now used us as a form of entertainment or body parts or they still need the old to control the new, or there's some fetish keeping us around, that this isn't aliens, this is what we hear about with all the ancient cultures, you know, going back to all the ancient text. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:56:11 I hope that it comes through in this, but he really is, he hates this guy. Yeah. Like, he lets him talk for a couple seconds, and then he's like, fuck this, I'm going to talk. You are so boring, you are so boring, You are supporting, you are subpoing. Bored!
Starting point is 01:56:26 I am bored by you. Yes. Woo! Boring! It's a great energy. Yeah. It's Marty Schachter levels of resentment that Alex is feeling here. Yeah, it is, it is like you had to have had to pay extra to keep Alex there.
Starting point is 01:56:45 There are two, there's two packages. There's that Alex gets to go home for a couple hours and you get to run things and you know it won't be as successful. and then there's the you get to force Alex to listen to fucking anything. I would suggest that maybe even another level is that Alex, you're talking to him for two hours at the end of the show. Yeah. He uses a lot of time in the beginning of the show to pretend he's interested in the things that you're going to talk about.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I noticed that he start, like he shoehorns in Gilgamesh. Oh my God. Out of nowhere, like it's not, it's so obvious. that it's an email that dark journalists sent him. When I talked to him, he said, well, it's nothing at all like we understand, because when the people get abducted in these experiences, they go through things. It's not like they get put into a ship and grabbed and dragged along.
Starting point is 01:57:36 They go through walls. So there's a whole different dynamics. There's a whole different physics that's involved here. This is the epithium. This is the physical reality distortion physics that goes along with this. That's the problem. But this goes back to the Epic of Gilgamesh, Samaria. it all describes this.
Starting point is 01:57:52 So does the Old Testament, so the Egyptians. So you hear all this new stuff, but it's in all the ancient text. So clearly, this isn't just modern propaganda. They're trying to spin it. There's something else going on. There's no question about it. And no, this phenomena has been with us since the beginning of time. There's no question about that.
Starting point is 01:58:10 This goes all the way back to the Mayans and the Egyptians. I'm glad you mentioned Gilgamesh, because that is actually the original Noah's Ark story. Oh, what a shock that you brought up this thing that I told you to bring up. What a two-man game we're running. It sounded so natural how you brought up that thing. You shoehorned it into the conversation and now I can get to talk about it. God, man, it's bad. Wow.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Bad chemistry. How is it possible? How do people watch that? You know, it's like when you see Mr. Beast and you're like, I thought you were to say Mr. Bean. Oh, no, no, no, no. Mr. Bean, a font of charisma. Mr. Beast is like an empty suck where anything that resembling a human being should go.
Starting point is 01:58:54 And yet people watch him. I don't understand it. Right? This is insanely bad. You could go find anything better. There's so many better things where you're not even looking. Yeah. If this wasn't the show that I watch and comment on, I would find this cringy in a way that I probably would not want to watch it.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Yeah. But because it is Alex, it's really funny to me. I think it's great. I mean, it makes me appreciate, here's what it makes me appreciate. It makes me appreciate morning sports radio. Sure. Like the two dudes, you know who they are. They are nondescript.
Starting point is 01:59:32 They have nothing interesting about them, but they know how to do it. They just do the thing. It sounds natural. Or even like Alex and his gold sponsor. Yeah, back in the day. No, now. Oh, now. Kirk Elliott.
Starting point is 01:59:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The two of them know what. they're doing. They're trying to sell gold. And like Alex has to push sometimes for like a harder sale. Yeah. But their rhythm is generally way less. This is awful. This is awful to listen to.
Starting point is 02:00:00 So dark journalist, you know that general went missing. Yeah. And something else went missing. Uh-oh. And that's the food that was in front of Alex because he's eating well. Dark Journalist's talk. You see how the UFO file gets right into the heart of the National security state, but it spills out into industry. As a matter of fact, the project that McCaslin
Starting point is 02:00:21 was working on and that Monica Reza, his assistant who also disappeared were working on, had to do with that memory metal, which they had redeveloped from UFO craft. That metal is so important because it can withstand any kind of heat. So we can make any kind of space engine with it. This was the crucial aspect. And for some reason, these people who actually had patented this technology now, they're working under government auspices but you have this corporate control they go out and patent it well was that one of the mistakes that were made in the process here and now they just released the call that mccaslin's wife made to 911 and she says well i get the impression that he intentionally you know he changed his clothes and i get the impression that he intentionally you know he left everything here that was important
Starting point is 02:01:08 and took off so he's leading on a sole voter left it never does that exactly and here's where i want your expertise, Alex, because I learned about predictive programming largely from listening to your show. And the predictive programming in the background on this is extraordinary. Alex made up a bunch of dumb shit that inspired dark journalists. Now dark journalist is being interviewed as if he's an expert on Alex's show. It's a wonderful cycle where no one knows anything and everyone's a genius. Yep. You might notice that dark journalist doesn't mention a couple of details about the McCasland story,
Starting point is 02:01:40 like the fact that police put out a silver alert after he was reported missing. that he's been retired since 2013 and this metal alloy was invented in the 90s. He's trying to make it all seem so suspicious and recent so it looks more connected than it is because dark journalist gets more clicks and makes more money when he exploits other people's real pain like this. It's gross.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Yep. That's how it works. Yeah, he knows what he has to know what he's doing. I mean, he's grasping at straws in, uh, but, nah, whatever. It is, it is that, that like, it is that hard sci-fi narrative structure, you know, where it's like, ah, you can see from the patents. Like, we're talking about a global international alien-based conspiracy and yet at the same time,
Starting point is 02:02:25 a big crux point is going and getting a patent. Yeah, and it's also, like she co-invented, co-discovered this alloy. It's a family of alloys. Yeah. It's like, it's not something that you're doing. disappearing over. This is fucking stupid. And it's disrespectful to these people's family, quite frankly.
Starting point is 02:02:48 It's interdimensional contracts again. If you can travel through space and time, but you're bound by fucking a signed piece of paper, you're out of your goddamn mind. I think, you know what, go fucking nuts talking about Eisenhower meeting with whatever aliens you want. He's dead.
Starting point is 02:03:03 It's not harming anybody. Yep. But these people, like, they are recently missing. And presumed probably, maybe dead. Which is why it gets me more clicks. Yeah, that sucks.
Starting point is 02:03:16 It really does. So anyway, he was saying that the predictive programming about this is really strong. And he believes that he's figured out what the model was. There was a TV show that primed us for this. It's not the X-Files. It's breaking bad. Okay. I think that the template that's being used, and I get into steganography very often,
Starting point is 02:03:40 as you know, I think that the template that's being used, believe it or not, is breaking bad. It's the television show breaking bad. Because if you go back into the pieces of that show, McCaslin's disappearance are almost exactly like Walter White's disappearance in the show. And this is the strange thing about it. He had worked at Los Alamos. Boo! All of this is McCaslin 20-some odd years later.
Starting point is 02:04:07 So that show is going on, say, in 2010. and here we have 15, 16 years later, this guy disappearing. And the template for it, there's actually a clip that's online that's available just about certain aspects of that show that have nothing to do with the McCastellon case. But one of the clips is about Walt's cell phone is missing. And there's this whole aspect about Walt's cell phone. If you go into those details and match them up with the McCaslin missing disappearance case, it's very strange because the facts almost line up directly. Well, that's like the Simpsons. thousands of times they call it lesser magic but they believe not as if they tell you but if they
Starting point is 02:04:46 tell you up front they believe it like it greases the skids for some metaphysical thing to happen exactly it opens up right they call it playing with the medium so walter and jesse were kidnapped by drug lord tucco salamanca and then returned like a day later and he had to fake to his wife that he was in a fugue state yeah i don't think dark journalist has seen breaking bad but i think maybe he saw a meme or a blog post trying to connect to this missing person. Yeah. And like Walter White's, the phone was, like it was his second phone. It was his drug phone.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Yeah. The number of things. So like here's what I think they think they're doing, right? Sometimes people who know things, who really know them, will start trying to explain them to you and your eyes will glaze over and you'll go, ah, like that, right? and then they will remember something and they'll be like, okay, this isn't quite it, but if you've seen this movie, let me try and give you a visual kind of thing for you to grasp on to because obviously the understanding is there. It's like the Matrix and Philosophy books. That's what they think they're doing.
Starting point is 02:05:55 Right. But they are going like, that's exactly what it is, which is not what it is. And Breaking Bad is telling me messages to decode about a fucking retired general. No, no, no, no. Come on, man. Not how it works. So, Alex, he does a lot of research. Sure. Praise a lot. But is 9-11 prediction? It didn't come from study, which he has claimed in the past. Wow. It didn't come from prophetic dreams. Sure. Which he also has claimed in the past.
Starting point is 02:06:25 Wow. It came because he saw that that Pearl Harbor movie was coming out. There we go. People asked me how I knew they were to stage 9-11, had a lot of data points. But the last thing was a few months before Pearl Harbor, the movie came out, and a couple other Pearl Harbor movies. They were priming and I can just see it. But let's talk about that. And I love Rogan. Not thinking about it. He has much of guest on. But he's like, oh my God, the other day. How does Steven Spielberg know about aliens so early? Close encounters,
Starting point is 02:06:51 all that is government propaganda he's been read in, obviously. Speak to that. And all this big UFO movies being in production for multiple years, perfectly for this time, and what it speaks to what's about to happen. There's no question. Spielberg in particular comes that very elite slice. They figured this is a guy we can work with. Kubrick actually was a little erratic for their purpose. I hate you. From what I've heard about him and his background.
Starting point is 02:07:17 But Spielberg is a little bit different. They might have said, well, this is a guy who's interested in UFOs. Let's have him take on this whole story. He's so ahead of everyone. He did close encounters in 1977. That's 50 years ago, practically. So, you know, he had the whole thing down, rock solid, all the way back then. But he became very close with President Reagan.
Starting point is 02:07:36 and when they did the E.T. movie, they showed it at the White House. And then Reagan came forward and said, you know, I really want to give an honor and tribute to Spielberg. Everyone in this room knows that that movie, E.T. is not fiction. It's fact. So all those people in that room remembered it. And they wrote it in the news. Elaborate on that. What a crazy statement. What a crazy statement. Yeah, Spielberg told that story and he was like, he was joking. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:03 But anyway, this predictive programming style. I forgot to mention it, like, in terms of our last clip, but, like, all of this is Alex denying God again. Yeah. He knows why the globalists put predictive programming in media, and it's because they have to in order to get around God's cosmic laws about free will. This isn't a sincere question he asked about, like, why do they do this? Is it something? He even answers his own question and says it's to lubricate. Yep.
Starting point is 02:08:31 It's like he can't say that. He can't think that. This is. about God and free will. It is an an admittance that contextually, like you can't take Alex out of context
Starting point is 02:08:46 because Alex exists only within context. In the moment. It is within his show that he does this. But once he leaves his show, what he says doesn't mean anything on the show. So now he goes to this place and he can say whatever he wants there. But once he leaves there,
Starting point is 02:09:00 none of that stuff means anything on back to the show. And if this is two hours of brokered programming, None of this counts as part of the show. No. This is dark journalist show and I'm here to go to eat. I'm hungry. And if dark journalist like in advance was like, I don't want to be a part of any of your weird religious shit.
Starting point is 02:09:17 All right. No pretty deal. I'll eat some more. Yeah. The deal falls apart if I force God on him. Done and done. So I'll just pretend God isn't behind all my God stuff. Works for me.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Cool, man. Anyway, one of the most shocking clips we've ever uncovered was the one where, Alex was talking about Trump being a mobster. Sure. And all that shit. Yeah. This one, I think, is actually more revelatory. Okay.
Starting point is 02:09:43 And if this is, I mean, Alex is a fucking clown. Sure. And I always think Reagan is a key figure when you're looking at this. If you want to look for pinpoints on the board in the past and how it connects up, because even Trump, what I found out is very interesting, and I don't know if you're aware of this, but Trump was part of the continuity of government group in 1987. They called him in. he was part of the disaster planning.
Starting point is 02:10:05 But he knows a lot, lot, wrong time before he gets into politics. He has his UFO fire. He was roped in under InfraGard, infrastructure protection. Yes, exactly. And what's interesting, when we look at the continuity of government program, it is the perfect response tool that they can use for a UFO threat. So wait, hold on. Why didn't that come up?
Starting point is 02:10:25 Why didn't that come up in the 2016? Like, he's a part of COG? Oh, my God. He's a part of the continuity of government infarguard? shit like this is what are you talking about he's been in that since nineteen eighty seven i'm telling you it's a checklist i don't remember what i don't remember what i don't remember when it was but a few months ago i was like there's just a checklist name all the things that he thinks are good and it will be it'll just go down the checklist what's the line you know when will you jump up
Starting point is 02:10:52 is it whenever you reveal that he was c o g should be is that the line that makes you jump off because there's going to be another one what's next but this this to me is a really really dangerous thing for Alex because we now really need to know when he became aware of this. Because if he ever supported Trump while knowing that he was involved in COG since 1987
Starting point is 02:11:15 unreal. Unreal. Seems relevant. It is a complete dismantling. Yeah. So I'm going to skip past this next clip too because it's really just a long Alex being like, now listen to me, Doug Journalist. I want you to go deep. Yeah. I've asked you this question a number of times,
Starting point is 02:11:33 I really want you to dig in on this. And he just goes on for like a minute and a half. Jesus Christ. And then the question at the end is, oh, the globalist behind schedule? Yep. Yep. They're behind schedule. I just was fucking blowing hard to try and kill time.
Starting point is 02:11:51 I'm just waiting for my next bite of sandwich. Let me ask you, Doug Journalist, and I need you to go deep. How would you describe the times that we're in right now? Really talk long for about 15 to 20 minutes. That's how long it takes me to eat this. fucking panda that I got from it. And then when I swallow it, I will talk over you.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Yeah. Until I'm hungry again. Absolutely. So that leaves us with one last clip. God damn it, this is funny. Okay. This,
Starting point is 02:12:17 I don't think there could be a better punchline for back-to-back dark journalist episodes. Oh my God. Listen to this shit. Okay. He didn't, before it was the, it's bad.
Starting point is 02:12:28 I'm, I'm trying to figure it out. So let's go to your exhibits because I'm, I'm in a bunch of a great job. job being a list. Let's start in Exhibit 6, the Fink's, which the agent said had this stuff under it. Now the scan, the show that's there, and we'll go through these exhibits because you've sent a bunch of them today, and I apologize, I've gotten to him. Why is this important? He once again
Starting point is 02:12:49 has to rush through his exhibits. He calls it the Finks again. I think he even, I don't think he called him dark journalist. I think he called him Dernist. I think he cut out a bunch of it, and he threw the D and he's like, you've done a great job, journalists. Because it's not sincere. So seriously, tell me what's going on under this fings. Oh, God. The finks. The fings.
Starting point is 02:13:11 So what's the importance of these exhibits that I'm contractually obligated to? You sent me this email and I have to say them. I have to say them. Yeah. So I have a big theory. Yeah. And that is that Alex fucking does not like dark journalist and does not like that this is where his career is at. I agree.
Starting point is 02:13:29 And to anybody who would disagree with my position, I would like to say, Because you're the expert, I mean, wide spectrum, you're the expert on accuracy because I'm pretty smart about it. So I know your, as your research is the best channel. Thank you. There it is. Thank you very much. There it is. Thank you, Alex.
Starting point is 02:13:44 I found it. You're going to get me. You're the expert. Finally. Finally. It's taken a while. It's taken a while. I think does the show end now?
Starting point is 02:13:58 No. No, but it's cathartic. It's cathartic as hell. Is this like there will be the. blood? Will you, will you beat me to death and then be like, it's finished? There will be the blood. There will be the blood. Hey, I guess I can't make fun of anybody for calling him journalists. Fucking finks. Fucking fakes. Over in Egypt. I didn't mispronounce Egypt. Ehypt. There you go. Yeah. So, what a silly, stupid fucking show. Trump is out here going crazy. Yep.
Starting point is 02:14:28 um Alex is doing whatever he can to figure out like how can I make a brand um and I think it's really funny that how much would it cost us to take a couple hours from a show I don't know I'd be willing to explore it right I legitimately did think about like what level of work would go into creating a fake website yeah and like and trying to yeah yeah and seeing if I could like broker some programming yeah I think it would probably take a little more than I'm willing to put in to make it believable. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:02 Maybe if we, maybe. I'm sure nobody who listens to this show knows how to set things up. Well, I'm sure they would, but it's not worth their effort. No, it's not worth their effort. But yeah, I don't know. It can't be that much. I can't be that much. Dark journalists can't be some sort of thrown around millions of dollars kind of guy.
Starting point is 02:15:20 I don't know. Maybe he's independently wealthy. Maybe he, that's a good point. Maybe journalist does have all the money. See, here's the thing. We know a number of journalists. And it's not a super lucrative field. It is in fact the opposite.
Starting point is 02:15:32 It's very hard to get a gig somewhere that, like, will, you know, publish your stuff. Especially in the light. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. Dark journalism. Very lucrative. So lucrative. Lucrative positions.
Starting point is 02:15:47 Well, I bet that's more true on average, I imagine. I hate to say this, but I love this guy. I know you do. I know you do. He's given me something. that has been absent for a while, which is a little whimsy. I love that Alex hates him. Yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 02:16:05 And you can feel it. Yeah. I like that. And Alex feels trapped. And I like that too. It's very funny. So I'm just going to become a dark journalist guy. You're a journalist guy?
Starting point is 02:16:16 Yeah. I'm a dark journalist. Yeah. Alex has already said that I'm the expert. So now. Well, there's only one thing left to do. Take the journalism down. Yep.
Starting point is 02:16:28 We'll do some journalism on journalism. Oh, we'll go to journalism school. Yes. Mizzou. My alma mater, one of the best journalism schools in the country. They would love there will be the blood. So we'll be back with another episode. Yep.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Soon. But until then, we have a website. Indeed, we do at salvagefight.com. Yep, we'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX. Clark. I am the mysterious professor.
Starting point is 02:16:56 And now here comes the same. sex robots. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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