Knowledge Fight - #1134: April 9-10, 2026

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

In this installment, Dan and Jordan have their minds blown by Alex capturing a miracle on air, Trump releasing a scathing diss on Alex, and everyone at Infowars trying to deal with the aftermath.

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Dan and Jordan. Knowledge fight. Need money. Time to pray. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time calling.

I'm a huge fan. I love your world. Knowledge fight. KnowledgeFight.com. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy?

No time for bright spots. No time. My bright spot is baked into this episode. Gotcha, gotcha. We are recording on Saturday instead of Sunday. It is intense. We had to, convene the conclave of the podcast bishops in order.

I don't know. All right. The white smoke. Let's just say the white smoke. Something happened after we record it or during, and after when we recorded our last episode. Oh, that's how we do it. And we're walking a tightrope of you not finding out about this thing.

And so my bright spot is that we manage to preserve the integrity of, of what we're doing here. There was one hour. There was one hour where it all could have fallen apart. Because I left here and then at almost an hour later you were like, stay off the internet. Do you know what's happening? Or you asked me, do you know what happened? Something along those lines.

Yeah, yeah. And I was like, well, obviously, no, this is going to be a problem. So I have just been off the internet for the past two days. Yeah. I haven't looked at anything. I haven't touched anything. I think I've been fucking with you a little bit about like. Like, oh my God, are you sure you don't know?

You have to have heard this. If I knew what it was, I would know. But I don't know. And, you know, it's kind of been good. It's been good to be off the internet. I've liked it. Yeah. So it's a bright spot for you too.

It is nice. It is nice. I'm so excited. I've, it's been a long time since I've been like, God, I can't wait to see what Jordan says about this. I can sense it. I can feel it in your heart. So what's your bright spot?

My bright spot, my man is tennis. Oh. Tennis. Nice. Did you watch a Ridley Scott interview and cry? No, but I would have if I had heard my own soul reflected so clearly. No, first final of the year, starring both Center and Alcarez. Okay.

Tomorrow morning. It's going down. Wow. In Monte Carlo and the ranking, the world number one ranking is on the line. Holy shit. It is a big deal. The stakes. It is huge.

It's going to be very enjoyable. Well, I'm glad that the two of them are. locked in their death battle. Yep. Forever and ever until one of them dies, yeah. It's interesting that tennis just does that. It seems to constantly create that. But hey, it's exciting and I'm pumped for you.

Greatness demands challenge, right? You know, you've picked such an interesting sport that it's like constantly on in the middle of the night or like early in the morning because it's around the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all over the place. That's such an interesting choice as opposed to like baseball and football. that are on like normal human hours. Ready to watch whenever you are.

Yeah. It reminds me of back when I was doing stand-up, there were a lot of people who were like really into wrestling. Sure. And like Japanese pay-per-views, you know, would be on at all hours of the day. Right, right, right. You know, they'd be like, oh, it was up. Up at two to watch the Japanese.

Yeah. Yeah, we had a couple of friends like that with football. The European kind, soccer football. Yeah, they were that, you know, you go to go. Ballway Bay at 10 a.m., you're going to have yourself a day. Yeah. Yeah. Not a long one, but it'll be a day.

It'll be a day. So, Jordan, today, we have got this episode. Holy shit. We're going to be talking about April 9th and 10th. Okay. Two episodes. Oh, yeah. All right.

Okay. It's such a ride. Okay. I can't wait. I can't fucking wait. Okay, okay. But before we get to it, let's take a little moment to say hello to someone. Oh, my God.

The suspense. So first, my nickname in college was Big Balls, but not for the reason you might think. Thank you so much. You're now, Policy Wong. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Next, I played bass in a progressive rock band

until one day the front man went on a rant about George Soros and the World Economic Forum. And now they're using Disney movies to brainwash everyone into being socialist feminist. Thank you so much. You're now, Policy Wong. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Getty Lee is fucking annoying. Yeah, that is how the band broke up.

Yep. Next, puky, puky, me and Huey, drank all the liquid death. Neh-ho-loopy-coco. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we got a technocrat in the mixed Jordan. So thank you so much to Guy. The last five years with you have been a wild ride. Right down to our weekly ritual of listening to knowledge fight together. You make me the happiest deep state globalist in the new world order by being my non-binary adrenicrome guzzling partner in crime. Love Chelsea. Thank you so much. You're now a technocrat. I'm a policy won't. Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. So we had an out-of-context drop. All right. But it's kind of, I don't know. I feel like this is just me more teasing more. Okay. So here it is anyway.

Bouch. Yeah, yeah. Don't do war crimes, bro. Cool. Don't do. That's good advice for all of us. Yeah. Yeah.

Again, this is like Trump doesn't want to be a weenie forever. Don't do war crimes, bro. Come on, bro. That's something that you can really only say in 2020's day. Back in the day, you know, you would get that in a long letter. You know, like the king of Spain would send a letter to the king of Russia and be like, but at the end of the day. Don't do war crimes, bro.

Come on, bro. Come on, bra. So, um, I had. very much intended like we're going to take this slow Alex is having his like falling away from Trump yeah but there's just let's savor it well I was intending to we're going to go day by day through this how does Alex respond to the we're going to wipe out your civilization comments it's an autopsy specific enough but we can't no have to get to this let's get to the meet so uh Alex comes on his show on April 9th

and is telling a story, basically, that Trump had said, I'm going to murder everyone in Iran. Sure. And then he was like, talked out of it. And he was like, oh, he came to his senses. And basically, Alex was a part of that. I'm not a prideful person, meaning I don't like to think about how great I am. It's the opposite.

I know my limitations, more power. You really get more dangerous to realize it is. But I do get satisfaction. Without even looking around, I've seen Mark Levin and all the neocons attack me. on national news online saying Jones and Tucker Carlson and MTG, they got Trump to pull back from total war. This is absolutely horrible. These people are big traders.

They're enemies. They don't want us putting pressure on Trump because it works. And he just came out today and said no nuclear weapons will be used in Iran when he promises stronger than anyone has ever seen strikes if they back out of these deals. So as a brief recap of what's happened here, Trump posted a deadline for Iran to open the straits of Hormuz on Truth Social, putting it at 8 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday. As that date grew closer and Iran said no and made fun of his threats, Trump escalated the online rhetoric to the point where he said on Tuesday, quote, A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. Sure.

Obviously, everyone interpreted that as a very clear threat that Trump intended to make and acted shocked by how weirdly nothing happened. Yeah. Everyone was, I don't know anyone who's not confused by like, uh... Hey, listen, I think we made a huge mistake electing and appointing nothing but cowards to the government and now we're all fucked because of it. At least not enough not cowards. Yeah.

The president used the social media company that he owns to post a threat. to kill an entire civilization, speaking as our representative to the world. And as far as I can tell, nobody did anything. Nope. No spies or snipers took him out. His cabinet didn't invoke the 25th Amendment to remove him from office. This is just behavior that's fine now, I guess. I mean, hey, I, you know, hey, what you're going to do?

What's you going to do? Let's escalate everything to nuclear war. It's a mess. Let's escalate, oh my God, are you going to raise that fucking tax by five cents? Fuck you. I'll bomb your whole civilization to do. Nothing. Yeah.

Yeah. The talkers were talking about this. You know, like no one was really doing anything, but the talkers were talking. And most of the talk was bad. Yeah. It's really hard to justify someone saying something like this because it's literally threatening to commit genocide if you don't get your way. Yeah.

Alex is in this tough situation where he knows he can't support or justify the things Trump is doing, but he's not able to just be a man and go against him. He can say critical things about Trump, but he refuses to speak freely because of an obsession with winning the midterm elections. There's a sense that Alex has converted to electoralism and become a bit of a normie, even if he likes to spend his time talking about orbs with dipshits like dark journalists. Hmm, Orbs.

Now that he's gotten into a pattern of yelling and crying at the audience about how Republicans have to win everything or else the world is going to end to the point where he was a key part of trying to overthrow the 2020 election because they lost, they can't really go back to the days when elections were all theater and it didn't matter who won. The reason for that is because the second that becomes Alex's story again, his fans might start considering the possibility that 2016, 2020, and 2024, those were theater too. And if they start to realize that,

it's a very quick walk to realizing that Alex was part of that theater. Never going to happen. So Alex tries to tread water in this idiotic space where everyone knows he should be burning Trump, but he holds back for the sake of some kind of imagined congressional victory in the midterms. He wants it to come off like some kind of ability, on his part to see the big picture. But it's really just indicative of his dissent into partisan hackery. Yeah.

Trump threatened to nuke Iran. And then about two hours before the deadline, he pretended to accept a ceasefire deal for two weeks that was brokered by Pakistan. Everyone knows the deal is bullshit. But this really highlights something that I think is super dangerous and we need to take seriously. We all know Trump making this deal is bullshit. But we all also know that it's a good thing he agreed to that fake deal.

because the alternative is dropping nukes on people. We don't want a nuclear war, and it feels like the best way to not have one, is to go ahead and pretend that the great dealmaker made a great deal that avoided so much unnecessary death. On some level, this is training the public that it's best to just humor Trump and pretend the emperor has great new clothes,

because if you don't, 8 p.m. Eastern might roll around, and his pride demands that he kill a lot of people. Yep. This is a sort of standard abuser, bully type of thing where Trump has clearly demonstrated his willingness to kill and to violate constitutional and international laws, so we don't know what he's capable of. His threats might be empty, but they can never be taken as such because the stakes are so high, and he knows that.

If he threatens to do something that would essentially end the modern world, and then he makes a fake deal to stop it at the last minute, the real effect of that is that he's demanding everyone thank him for avoiding the end of the world. Anyway, he didn't say that he wouldn't use nukes. Alex is misinterpreting Trump saying, quote, no nuclear weapons after he was asked what an acceptable deal with Iran would look like. Oh, he was saying that Iran would get no nuclear weapon. Ah, okay. And Alex is desperate to pretend Trump changed courses, so he's yelling at his audience and saying that Trump committed to not using nukes.

Right. Basically, this is Alex playing his role in the abuser bully dynamic. Trump has just lashed out at the public and is demanding everyone praise him for stopping before he nuked. the world. Alex is now getting on his show and praising Trump for stopping before he nuked Iran and also trying to pretend that his actions were critical to bringing Trump to his senses, effectively demanding that the audience play the same role in his narcissism cycle as he feels like he does in Trumps. Alex had to get on his show and attack him in order to correct the ship, which is

explained by him. He came on his show and said that they should invoke the 25th Amendment. And so that made a lot of headlines. That was him saving the world. Yeah. You know, it is something where it's very easy to forget this because we all just assume it will happen. But Trump's saying those things is just him saying them. People have to do them. So we're all assuming that all of the people who know that the deal is bullshit, all of the people who know that what he's doing is illegal,

and all of the people who are in a place where they could say no are going to say yes to him just because he's the imaginary president for a while. Well, for us, at least from where I'm sitting, it's the same issue. And that is that like maybe they will, maybe they won't. The stakes are too high to bet on people not following what he says. Yep. Amazing.

So like to endorse not following unconstitutional and flagrantly illegal thing. that the president might tell you to do. Sure. But I don't know if we can bank on that because someone might. Yeah, man. Boy, it's just tough not to say, I get it.

I get Nazis. I get it, buddy. It's tough. It's tough to be a Nazi. And here we are. What's you going to do? So Trump, he really can't threaten genocide. You can't do that.

I mean, but I guess you can. And I tip my hat to Alex. POTUS warns, America's ready to strike Iran stronger than anyone has ever seen before, close quote, if agreement isn't reached, declares no nuclear weapons will be used. That is very good to calm nerves, because you can't talk about total annihilation of a civilization, never to return. That's definition of genocide, and not have us have to come out and say, emergency break, you know, slam the disc brakes on, whoever's telling you this, what we know,

Mark Levin, you said it on Fox News, do not listen to lunatics. This is some of the most weasily stuff you can do. It's wrong for Trump to threaten genocide because it's wrong. Full stop. The formulation Alex is putting forward is that it's wrong for Trump to do that because if he does, then Alex has to be critical of him. I get that Mark Levin is just the scapegoat explanation for everything now, and Alex has decided that he's going to paint him as the guy behind all of Trump's bad decisions. But if Alex has enough sense to accurately describe what Trump did as threatening genocide,

then he has to be able to understand that Trump did that on purpose. Yeah. You can rationalize that someone gave him bad advice all you want, but no one could ever talk me into threatening to commit genocide because I would never do that. If you're honest with yourself, you can't say the same about Trump. Based on the actions that Trump took on social media, there are only a couple of conclusions you can come to. One, Trump is willing to kill the 93 million people in Iran if he doesn't get his way. Yeah. Two, Trump is such an incompetent negotiator that the only way he thinks he can get his way is to bluff and threaten to kill 90s.

million people. Yep. Three, Trump is so dumb that he can be talked into threatening to kill 93 million people, even though he doesn't want to, nor does he think it's a good strategy. Sure. Or four, Trump believes that he and Iran are just doing this for show, and all these threats are just a dick measuring contest for him. Sure.

Alex really needs to accept that there is just no saving this. Trump threatened to commit an intentional genocide in order to scare another country into accepting a deal that they didn't want to accept, and even Alex can't come up with a less, damning way to describe it. If you're fine with this, you don't have a principled stance against Trump nuking someone because he did everything but pull the trigger here and everyone knows the justification for not pulling the trigger is bullshit.

It's arbitrary that it didn't happen. Yeah. I mean, we all, one of the biggest things that we all lived through was Game of Thrones. And one of the main characters of Game of Thrones when faced with a, out-of-controlled despot, threatening to kill millions of people. He killed that guy, right? And everybody agreed, totally the right move. Totally the right move.

Can I actually correct you? Yeah. Two main characters do that. Good point. And in both cases, everybody's like, you got to do what you got to do. It is the correct move. There were consequences, but everybody, you know, there was some stigma. Yep.

But, yeah, everyone kind of. Yep, yep, everybody moved on. They were real bummed out for a bit, but yeah. So Alex talks here about Lindsay Graham How he's overconfident about Iran and ground troops Sure. War and that stuff. Jesus Christ.

And he gets a little lost. Lindsay Graham's asked two weeks ago, 2,500 of Marines take Crog Island? I believe in the Marines. Well, it took 110,000 Marines and sailors to take Iwo Jima. That was 20,000 Japanese. Kirk Island has more than that. Well, you're just against our Marines.

This is mathematical. stuff. It's like, what's it take to get a falcon heavy into orbit? However many tens of thousands of tons of fuel. They're like, well, we just need 500, you know, 500 pounds. You're like, no, you need tons and tons and tons. It's mathematical. But so many of these malignant narcissist, politicians, and corporate leaders, the highest percentage you see anywhere, I'm not just sociopaths, but psychopaths, throughout history, they get so delusional, they will just give orders that are insane. And one of my favorite examples because the film is amazing. Deepwater Horizon. Of course.

It's a movie. Of course it's a movie. One of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell, but I'd see a documentary about it from the court case. It's from the transcripts of the court case. That all happened. That movie's like basically exactly as it happened. Even the actors, they chose to play the people. The head crew, the head of the rig looks like Kirk Russell. You know, the Mark Wahlberg guy looks just like Mark Wahlberg. I mean, they just did a master five times. I need to watch again. and they get a call by the Coonass head of BP in the U.S. Well, nothing is Coonass.

He says a Coonass accent. We going to do well, don't be great. So I think that you're talking a bit a lot about Deepwater Horizon here. Yeah. When it should have just been maybe an analogy you're making, as opposed to a five-minute chunk that you're going to get into about the movie and how it's real. Really don't need to even give me a cast list.

No. Even if you're nailing the analogy part, At no point in time will the cast list assist me in getting your point? No. And I would also say that you're not making the point with the analogy. Yeah. That part is why you would bring this up. Yep.

And that is weak. Yeah, that's no good. So Alex keeps talking about the movie. Why not? The Pentagon said, 19% chance, they don't get removed. The straight gets closed. It creates a chain reaction. And now if we can't do regime change, we've got to do ground invasion.

And that's even lower probability because they'll keep fighting. because we funded a huge war for seven years against them in the 80s. And they're even tougher now. But it's the exact same thing. Well, you just go ahead and you do that now. In fact, let's play the trailer, whatever clip you found, because this is it. I mean, this is the transcripts, because these old companies have secretaries, they're recording and all, they create transcripts of it.

They had the transcripts of these phone calls. You just go ahead. We're going to save 50 million a day, not putting that mud in there. They call the concrete mud. And the Texas is on the line going, it's going to blow up. But still, he went, okay, did the pressure test, didn't blow up. All right, I'll do what you said. Hours later blows up.

Like, we have to listen to the real experts, not. Oh, my God. Mark Levitt. Oh, my fucking God. This is an exact parallel here. Folks, play the club. So he plays a clip from Deepwater Horizon. I will, I, I lived.

I was alive. I was alive during COVID. I was a live living. I was a living human being during COVID for that man. Mm-hmm. For him to not be ripped to shreds by wolves after saying shit like that. Or Walbergs. Or Walbergs, absolutely.

If he goes to Walburger, I expect him not to make it out. You stay out of Boston. I expect to eat an Alex burger at a Walberger. So to be clear, I want to make sure we're all clear on the argument that Alex is trying to make. He's saying that experts warned that attacking Iran would not be a good idea, but the wrong decision was made. Similarly, in the case of the Deepwater Horizon, experts told the decision makers that the well was going to blow up, but they didn't listen. The connective tissue between the two things is that the right experts weren't listened to, and Alex is saying that they're both bad things that could have been avoided. Right.

What I find really interesting is that this isn't a strong connection between these two things. And in fact, understanding what happened to Deepwater Horizon really doesn't help you understand the, the situation in Iran at all. The further problem is something that we've touched on another time Alex brought up this movie, and that is that Alex are just wrong with the details about the actual explosion at the horizon. Well, that sounds right. He's right about the movie, but he's not right about the real world.

That is the problem. He has to insist that this movie is so accurate to real life because he only really knows about the movie, but he wants the audience to believe that he's speaking from a place of deep research about the real world. Right. And at this point, I could descend into a very elaborate discussion about drilling and the mud that he's talking about. Yeah. But it is thoroughly unnecessary.

Okay. And we have other things to get to. All right. So I'm going to skip what I spent a lot of time on. He's just an asshole. You spent a lot of time on drilling. Drill baby drill. Unfortunately, we're now moving on.

Yeah. So the mud, they put the mud down in order to offset the pressure down at the bottom. Right. This has nothing to do with the explosion. that happened later. Okay. Anyway, who gives a shit? Okay, all right.

I'm actually kind of interested, but... Well, okay, I'll tell you this. Tell me a little bit more. When you're drilling, you have to measure... You have to weigh two variables against each other. One is the pressure down in the rock that you're drilling into. Too high explodes, you're going to die. If you hit pockets of things, they will rush towards places with lower pressure, so it'll go up the pipe.

Yeah. In order to offset this, you need to put more... mud down the pipe, what they call mud, sure, down the pipe. Yeah. In order to create a greater pressure. Okay. So stuff won't go upward. Gotcha. However, you have to balance the weight of the mud.

Right. With how, like, if it's too heavy, it will penetrate the rocks. Right. It will crack the rocks. You need a Goldilocks amount of mud. And it takes a lot to get a Goldilocks amount because too much and too little are very easy

to do. Right. Yes. So in the case of the Deepwater Horizon. When they were drilling, they had way too little buffer between the mud weight and the pressure density kind of thing, that equation that they needed. And they were doing that in order to try and maximize profits and take a higher risk. When they were getting out of the mine or out of the well, the normal thing that they do is they pour concrete down there to cap off the well so things don't come up. No more problem. Right. And in that process, they did not correctly or fully cap it. And so that's what caused.

Right. They had given too little buffer between the drilling of the mine or the well and then they didn't cap it properly. Gotcha. So anyway, Alex is, he's just wrong about a ton of shit. Gotcha. And I don't care. All right. But not because you cared.

I was actually, I'm interested in how that works. That was a really interesting thing. You should go see the movie. Well, okay. Alex has seen it five times. That's too many times. Yeah. So there's other issues on Alex's mind. Yeah.

Like aliens. Sure. All right. While we've been focused on this incredibly dangerous war, the shockwaves that are happening, foreign control, U.S. foreign policy, Israel planning to nuke, Iran, and more. We've not been looking enough at all these congresspeople that are very trusted, Bershette and others saying no. Four alien species, talking to humans on the earth, spacecraft, all of it.

Trump needs to release it all. Now, are they being given this info or is it real? I've got a lot of answers. No, you don't. And I think we've been focusing on that plenty. It seems like we've talked about that a lot. Yep. Dark journalist has been making some great points.

Yep. I mean, I'm going to just reiterate my forever stance on aliens. If aliens, then only aliens. You will know. You won't even need to ask. You won't need to be like, hey, are aliens? You will know. It will be known.

immediately if aliens. Right. Like we talked about on the last episode, I think. If aliens want to destroy us, they can. And they aren't. Yeah. They don't want to harm us.

Yep. And if they want to reveal themselves to us, the government can't do shit about that. So like, they don't want to, if they're here, they don't want to be seen, let's respect their privacy. What treaties? Yeah.

Shut up. Shut up. Anyway, we get, Alex teases this that it's like, this is in his mind. Yeah. But he also has some real world stuff to talk about. All right. Like the night before, he pre-recorded an interview with Marjorie Taylor Green.

Okay. And so he plays that interview. And part of it involves her saying, hey, Alex, I'm proud of you that you called Trump crazy because he's crazy. Yeah. But you came out and you called it exactly as it is. And you said the president has gone insane and it's time to use the 25th Amendment. He's not mentally stable. And I, you know, you can love President Trump.

You can not love him no matter how you feel about him. But everyone has to be honest and realistic and wake up and look at the facts. Any person, no matter who they are, when they say they are willing and they set a deadline and they literally say 8 p.m. that night, that they are going to wipe out an entire civilization of a country that, by the way, Iran has not bombed America. We don't have bombs falling on our head. We are not being attacked right now. Nothing is happening like that to us. Am I defending Iran?

No, I am not. I'm just pointing out the realistic facts. But President Trump put out that truth social right there and literally said that he would wipe out an entire civilization of people. I don't know how that is defensible by anyone. It's total supervillain stuff. Not even Hitler said that out loud. was actually trying to do it.

No, that's absolutely right. Yes. Civilization. And then saying it's going to be bridges and power plants. That's critical infrastructure. And he said never to come back. I thought he's trying to save these people. Yeah, never to come back.

And the president has come out and he's spoken about why he's going to war and it was to free the Iranian people. He claimed it was to help them. He said it was not about the old. oil, but yet it's it's straight up about the oil. It's all about the straight of her moves. And it's because I think he's found out that this is not popular. People don't want to have the so-called temporary pain for long-term gain. Well, that was the good news, though, is when you and Tucker and everybody else came roaring out, not the Democrats, they saw polls. And I'm

talking to insiders at Raspianaman. They're below 33. He's in free fall. So thank God, still somehow we're able to get to him. And again, I love the old Trump. I told you on the phone this morning. I said, I hate the new Trump. I'm just going to be honest. I hate this person. This is this is a disgusting husk of the former person. This is like, you know, in a vampire movie, you love your wife, your husband, till a vampire bites when they're now a vampire. No. This is horrible. No. He's the same guy. No. But like, I find this fascinating the way that like MTG is perfectly situated for what she wants to do. Yeah. But she's just not very dynamically interesting as a media personality.

She's great for someone to be a shit talker in Congress. Yeah. But like if she has to do a show for herself, I just don't think she has it. She doesn't have the chops. Yeah. But it's so unfortunate because she made all the right choices to set herself up to have a very lucrative career in right wing media. Yep.

I just, I don't think it's going to work. There are so many comics I know who would be delighted to be in her position and would fucking crush it, but they would never have the chops to get into her position. And so the two of them being unable to, it's very old Henry. You know, I'm good enough to do the thing, but you're not good enough to do the thing. Maybe she should try and become Theo Vaughn's co-host. Maybe the two of them could make a go of it. Maybe they'd fall in love. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be beautiful. That would be beautiful. So this isn't the only post that MTG is offended by. All right. She also is not thrilled with what Trump said on Easter. Okay.

The post that it disturbed me deeply inside was on Easter morning when the president made that horrific post and it was shocking. Easter morning is when families and people all across the country, Christians across country are waking up and celebrating the fact that Christ has risen from the grave. This is like this is the greatest day that we have. And it's literally the basis of our entire faith. And many families are getting ready to go to church and planning to have. you know, all day long, uh, celebrations with your families and cooking and gathering and eating.

And the president put out a post that was the most disturbing post I've ever read. And I killed Jesus. Strait of Hormuz. Alla is great. Uh, just just, you know, I'm going to totally destroy you. It's just foaming at the mouth. Yeah. It's unacceptable. Yeah, no shit. So in case you missed that one, Trump's post from Easter morning was, quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day, all wrapped in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open the fucking street, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch.

Praise me to Allah. He is risen. He is risen. Oh, my God. Honestly, that's one of the craziest things anyone has ever said. Because it just has too many layers to it. Yeah. He's threatening war crimes by targeting civilian infrastructure, which is in itself a terrorist act.

He's saying fucking and bastards at 8 a.m. on Easter morning. He's throwing in completely unnecessary lines like Just Watch and there'll be nothing like it. And that's all just filler. And then the praise be to Allah is almost mind melting. What could he possibly have meant by that? Is it trolling? A presumably Christian president saying praise me to Allah on Easter morning is so weird that it's confusing. Naturally, you read something like that full post and you're immediately horrified by the

intent to kill that he's expressing, but then you have to take a step back and look at it like it's a magic eye poster. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, man, you know, yeah, I can't. Okay. All right. This is the thing. This is the thing that's going to kill me. In the next, in the next five years, I'm going to die because of this thing that everyone is going to do to me all the time. Everyone is going to do this thing to me. Just like Alex's going like, this guy is crazy. He's nothing like this or anything like that in order to justify how he thought previously and how he doesn't have to change his thinking in the present due to the things that happened, right? Yeah. How many times? How many times did I talk to one of those fucking journalists and I was like,

hey, call these idiots Nazis, call them Nazis, just do it. And they were like, no, we, we, but we, we, but, these Nazis said not even Hitler about that Nazi. Not even Hitler. Right. And they're going to come at me and say, no, we were totally right. What we did at the time was right? Well, because Trump changed. Exactly. Except you did. Today is the day he finally became president is what happened.

There is a clip. It wasn't really worth cutting, but there was a moment where Alex actually said that Trump needs to be presidential. Oh, my God. And it's like, come on, Matt. I'm just going to die. I'm just going to die. Yeah, and like, I think that it's great that MTG doesn't like this post and those other ones. But, you know, whatever.

But she can cut it out with this act. Like, it's exactly what you're talking about. Like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like Trump hasn't been this person the whole time. You don't, we're not going to launder your, like, what sounds good that you're saying now. Yeah. Yesterday exists. I either say we fucked up or shut up. That's it.

So after he plays the Marjorie Taylor Green interview, Alex reveals that the Lord has blessed him since he came out against Trump. I wasn't consciously guilty for still supporting Trump because he was doing so much good. I don't want to throw the baby out of the bathwater, though I was still critical. But in six months, and I've always slept great, seven, eight hours nonstop, great. Last six months, I've had trouble sleeping. Since I've come out directly against what Trump's doing, I slept 10 hours last night, nine or 10 hours a night before. I feel so good at a gut level doing this.

At the end of the day, that's what matters. Because I can intellectually look at something and it's the right thing to do. My conscience tells me to do it, but man, when I feel great about something, that's why I do this because it feels good to tell the truth. I don't believe the sleep thing is real. It's just a way for Alex to reinforce that he did the right thing by calling for Trump to be taken out of office with the 25th Amendment. Yeah. But Alex doesn't feel good when he does the right thing. When he experiences things he likes, he defines them as a good feeling.

He defines that feeling as, oh, I must have done the right thing. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is no right or wrong for him. It's all conditional. And then after the fact, whatever choice he ends up making will magically have been correct and the heroic option for him to make. It's crazy how it works.

Yeah. Every time. He writes his own myths in reverse. Yeah. That's fun. It's cute. I do appreciate this late in the game. Like, oh, I slept well.

Like, wow. Wow. So you've been doing, how many years have you not been sleeping well? if that's where we're at. Well, the guilt of being the giant piece of shit probably weighs on it. Yeah, I bet. So at this point, we enter some waters that are a little bit dark.

We enter the danger zone. Yes. And I can only sum things up like this. Okay. Big stuff's coming. I can feel we're on the cusp of something, Daniel. Yeah, me too. Me too.

There is, we're just on the cusp. We can, man, the worst thing that ever happened was dark Daniel. Journalists showing up for hours. We'll get this. It's not dark journalist. Oh. All right. So I'm a fan of Dark Waters,

a journalist, researcher, James Williams. I saw him a few years ago, but I watch him every couple days now. I went back to start watching his older shows. He was like 7, 8, 9, 10 years ago talking about the fake alien invasion, how it's demonic, how it's interdimensional, which I've been laying out as well. So Dark Waters, aka James Williams, has been on the show before.

But this time, Alex keeps talking to, like, right now he's constantly hanging out with dark journalists. We can't do this. You can't have two darks. No. No. Two space dip shittery experts, both with names that start with, we can't do it. No, can't handle it. If you've forgotten Dark Waters is a guy who has a YouTube channel where he would talk about cryptids and read scary stories, which turned into a stream that involves politics and religion.

I watched a little bit of it the last time he's on and it's not very good. A lot of this stuff seems obsessed with a cryptid named the dog man. Ooh. His videos have a pretty small audience, so if Alex is having him on, it either means that Alex will have anyone on or that this is more brokered programming. Or he agreed to the interview thinking it was dark journalist. That is entirely possible. He just might have seen the dark.

It would be like, all right, that's good. Or Dark Waters finally found the Dogman and is going to meet the most dangerous thing. There we go. So I've become a dark journalist guy. You're a DJD? Yeah. You're a DJ Dan? Yeah.

And so I can't really get excited when Dark Waters comes on. Right. I was wrong. You were wrong? I was unfamiliar with what he was going to bring to the table. Okay. And we're really doing aliens, huh? This ain't aliens, man.

Oh, okay. But I came in here. I didn't look at the notes he said. I saw what he was saying about we cannot abandon Trump now. Trump is a weapon of God's hand. No peace between Israel and Iran. A fast must be called from the throne of power. What is Trump contending with?

And I've literally tried to get people that are defending Trump and what it's going on on the show because I really wanted to hear for them not to beat them up. They won't do it. Oh, I thought the leftists were the ones who wouldn't come in debate. Didn't you have tapes of your own show from the past? You could just play those at yourself.

That would be. That's an option. Yeah. So yeah, Dark Waters. Dark Waters is still on the Trump train. And he's calling for a fast. And he's rhyming every now and again. He has a position that basically we prayed for Trump.

Trump is a weapon. Yeah. We can't let other people use this weapon. All right. That's fair. It is. That is fair. No, no, no.

That is the one position I think I would accept. This is what we prayed for. Let's ride it out. Yeah. That's fine. We have just lost our grid. on the weapon. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. I'll take that. The problem that people have is, and we expressed this the last time I was on the show with you,

I said that you were a watcher. And a watchers are people on the wall who see the enemy coming. And that watcher's job is to identify to the king, hey, we have a problem. So you've been doing what you're supposed to do as a watcher. You're being attacked because you were a watcher. Ladies and gentlemen, I need you to remember. People made prayers for Donald Trump to be president of the United States. Yeah, he did. It's not like Donald just became president by happenstance. This was something that we all prayed for for him to be the president of the United States. And so now we have a situation where the man that we pray for who has an anointing from God, and Alex, you can attest to this. You've seen this that Donald Trump has anointing that dethrones.

It's 100% supernatural, and it's not him, it's God. You're back on the train. Supernatural. Walker Rupert. That was it? Trump. Debate. That's all it took.

Gone. Hillary Clinton. Boom. Gone. Everybody that's ever risen against Donald Trump and contested against him goes down. So what do you? do with a man like Donald Trump who has an anointment from God that you can't defeat. You bubble wrap him, you control him. You point him like a weapon at who you want him to hit. And the problem that I have

as a Christian is we as the body of Christ in this nation, we don't understand that that is a weapon that God gave to us and we have to fight for our weapon. We have to fight for control of our weapon. We can't just hand it over and throw up our hands and be like, oh, he piss me off and it's done. We can't do that. Makes sense. I, okay, it does, it, it, how about this? There is a through line. Yeah. And it, it follows, everything follows from one to the other.

Mm-hmm. But if you listen to that man and understand that what he is talking about is supposed to be the real world, it should not surprise you that the president this man desires is shouting shit like I will end a civilization. And spoiler alert for later, I don't think that dark water says that much problem with that. I wouldn't be, no, you can't. You, I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that the fact that it does kind of makes.

sense in terms of like a position someone who likes Trump should have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It just highlights how much Alex doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's crazy. He's, yeah. Water's is crazy. Absolutely nuts.

But it makes so much more lens than Alex. No, that, but, you know, it's like if you start from nuts, but then you have a through line, I don't know, maybe you'll, maybe you'll make it through to the same side. You don't know. Sure. Right? But if you start with, no, well, you do know. But if you're just like, ah, I'll try and do anything you're going to.

going to lose. You're going to lose. Yeah. So Dark Waters has an explanation for what's going on and why the weapon has been taken from them. Jesus? No. Oh, I regret to inform you that witches are back in Oh, hell yeah. The president has been under the greatest witchcraft attack that you, anybody's ever seen. That man is isolated. That man is alone. And the worst part about it is everything for him. I agree. I said it some, but we should be totally praying for him because it's a battle over him right now. Just like, yeah, the angels of the devil fought over Elijah's body. Moses's body, yep. Moses's body.

Sorry, you're right, Moses's body. And watch this. Understand this, ladies and gentlemen. The seat of presidency of the United States, the presidential seat, is a throne of power. Men sit in that throne of power, and they retain power for a while. It's why Barack Hussein Obama didn't leave D.C. the first time Donald Trump came in because he's setting a throne of power. So here we get.

What? He get a Christian president. Everybody says, oh, he's not Christian. He in the Epstein files. We get a Christian president that comes in, who sits in a throne of power. He goes to the pro-life rallies. Nobody did it. He does the right legislation.

He did the actual action. Right. He sits in a throne of power. He comes under a assault. And then everybody's like, oh, my God, we're going to abandon him. No, we cannot abandon President Donald Trump. I'm sorry. So I'm hearing this.

And I'm flashing back to at the beginning of this interview, Alex said that he's trying to get pro-Trump people. to come on the show and none of them will. Yep. That leads me to believe that the best pro-Trump argument someone is willing to make publicly on Alex's show is that Trump is under the sway of witches. Yeah. This reflects poorly on Trump and on Alex's booking department.

This is rough times. Well, I do like that there is some, there is a layer of like actual wisdom below the witchcraft of like, yeah, if you isolate and fucking drive a man crazy, don't be surprised when he goes crazy. And it's like, yeah, that does make sense. But also, what if witches were involved? It's the greatest witchcraft attack that anyone has ever been under. I would like a ranking of previous, like in the Ocean's 11, you know,

or it was like, these are the people who got the closest to stealing from a casino. I would like a ranking of the greatest witchcraft attacks up until this point. Right? Sure. Well, here's what I, here's what just immediately came to mind. And I think that it's tough because the close. the closest you can get to pulling this off or whatever, I think that's quantifiable.

Okay. With witchcraft attacks, there's an art to it. Sure. So you're going to have a lot of debate between what's the greatest witchcraft attack. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Because some of them, some of them are like... That's a good question. Is it the largest?

Is it the most subtle? Is it the one that is most in essence of witching? You know, the one that makes people most feel witchy. Yeah, it reminds me of something I saw when I was in Santa Claus Indie. Indiana. And that was that they have a Santa Claus Hall of Fame. And there is a dispute. Oh my God. Yes, they do. There's a dispute between various people who have been like the official Santa. Oh my God. Who was the like best Santa. Oh my God. Some of them are like this guy embodied Santa the best. I mean, this guy was the original. Listen, listen. That's how it is with

witchcraft attacks. If you've got to if you've got if Santa was your thing. Yeah. You got to fight for that territory. You got to fight for it. People might say this is a Patty fight. Disagree. You own that Santa Claus suit. Yeah. Yeah. It's as good a use of time as talking about witches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, Trump's under this witchcraft attack. Sure. And, uh, the

only way that we're going to be able to stop this. Yeah. Is if someone in a seat of power calls for a fast. Hell yeah. Wait, what? How do we break that control? The way you break that control is what the Bible told us to do and what we've seen. When David sinned with Babsheba,

David ended up calling for a fast and making sacrifices under God. When Hezekiah was having trouble, they went on the fast. What has to happen is there needs to be a fast from one of the thrones of power in this nation. It can be J.D. Vance, who's a Christian. Hey, we're going to do a three-day fast and pray for the president.

It could be Susie Wiles, who's in the throne of the, whatever her position is, is like the chief of staff. Hey, we can do a three-day fast for the president of the United States to break this off of him. It could be his wife.

It could be his oldest son. it could be anybody that sits in power close to him and pray for the man and fast make a sacrifice to the lord and we can repent and say hey lord we're wrong this is up the we went in the wrong direction trump's been trump's turning around before it can be done so i think that there's something like very wormy about alex with like just like oh we can save this but then with as far as dark waters goes i don't think a fast is going to help probably but let's take all of the the magic out of it. He's still advocating for people in positions of high office to do something that acknowledges

we should take this seriously. At the very least, he's asking people to do anything. Yeah. I'm asking you just to not eat for a day. Treat this. We need someone in a powerful position to treat this not like normal time. How about some urgency? How about some emergency maybe?

If that urgency is expressed by let's not eat for three days. It's better than nothing. I guess. Or I mean nothing, the nothing is better than. the something. So I hate to say that like, you know, what he says makes sense, but it does, it does more than Alex. You know, when I listen to him, I immediately go back to the 16th century, right? And I'm seeing all these Bibles start to pop up. And I'm the Catholic Church. And I'm like, dude, you do not know what you're unleashing. We got to destroy these printing presses. You don't

know what's going to happen. And all of their reasons they thought made sense, right? All the things that they were like, oh, I'm so scared that this is going to happen or we're going to lose power or we're going to lose all that stuff, right? Completely wrong. Here's what happens. That guy. That guy starts talking about Hezekiah taking a fast in 2026. You fucked up, Gutenberg. And Susie Wiles can do it because she's in some office of power.

Yes, exactly. Oh, boy. So Dark Waters has some scripture that he wants to get into. I knew he would. Yeah, of course. Yeah. We have to battle for him. Wow.

this. I'm going to give you another scripture. I want you to hear this. Watch. Jeremiah 50, and tell me if this is not what Donald Trump has been doing. Oh, right. Jeremiah 51, 2023. Go ahead. All right. Thou art my battle axe and my weapon of war. Hell yeah. For with thee, I will break in pieces the nation. And with the, I will destroy kingdoms. And with thee, I will break in pieces the horse in the rider. And with thee, I will break in pieces the charied in the rider. And with thee also, will I break in pieces the man and the woman. And with thee, I will break in pieces old and young.

and with thee will I break in pieces the young man and the name. I will burn around to the ground. Also in pieces with the the shepherd and his flock and with thee will I break the piece in pieces the husband man and his yokea boxing and thee and with the

and with thee will I break in pieces captains and rulers. What has Donald Trump been doing on a behalf of this nation? Wrecking shot. The man is a giant wrecking ball. He's a battle axe of the Lord.

In fact, Alex, you're a battle axe. Run around, wrecking everybody. Run around. I'm a battle axe. Every Christian is called to be

one of the Lord's battle axes. So when our, if we have this beautiful, you know, vintage battle axe that's chopped off millions of heads and won millions of victories, but the handle breaks.

Do we throw that act that battle axe away? No, we fixed the handle. You know, it was a battle axe. That is a terrible analogy. My mother-in-law.

Yay, nice. Nice. Bam, Balax. We've done stand-up. So, yeah, this is, that's an interesting scripture. I mean, it sounds hardcore. It sounds metal as fuck. So I'm down for that one.

It's metal. But also, probably not the one that I want some people hanging around with. Sure, sure. I think some people could take, you are a battle X the wrong way. It probably goes the wrong way from time to time. But it's an important beginning to, to something that is fucking insane. Okay.

And that happens in this next clip. Mic down for this. Okay. There's these false expectations we have, although all the information is in front of us. So people are mad at Mark Levine. I expect Mark Levine to be a rank devil. Sorry, I just expect him to behave like a rank devil.

Hold on. Hold on. Pastor James, Darkwater, stop. This literally, Rob Duk just walked into her news director, better 20 years, 18 years. He just walked in. This was delivered the door by FedEx two minutes ago.

You talk about a biblical sign. This was just delivered to the door by FedEx two minutes ago. Rob, you just ran in here. You got a letter. What does this say? This is biblical. This is why God works. Somebody got touched by God.

I'm crying right now. To mail this, this literally just showed up FedEx. Rob, come here, sit down. Read this. What the hell's going on here? He just said, I mean, Literally, as you said, battle axe, that X arrived. What the...

So literally about 10 minutes ago, the guy who runs the business side of things brought this to me. He goes, usually we don't bring things over like this, but he goes, this just came in. He said it's a battle axe. I couldn't believe it. I heard you talking about it, Pastor. Someone sent a battle axe.

It showed up right when Dark Waters read averse about the battle acts. That's unacceptable. Yeah. It's also very unconservable. convincing community theater level performances. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's being unfair to community theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, that's pathetic. They, uh, it, no, no, no, no, no, not doing that. Mm-hmm. No, I refuse. So I played the clip of Dark Waters reading that Battle X related verse earlier for a reason. And that was because Alex said overhead shot during it. And that flashed up on screen his notes. One of the things he'd printed out for,

the day was a page of talking points that Dark Waters had sent him to cover, one of which was the line that Trump is, quote, not a politician, a battle axe, and as Christians so are we. They knew in advance that Dark Waters was going to read a Bible verse about battle axes, so

I can't help but think that they just had an axe that a listener sent them at some point in the past, and they're pretending that it just showed up. The problem is that Alex and Doe are asking, they're acting like this is amazing, but they're not acting like it's amazing enough. If an axe arrived at Info Wars the moment a guy was being interviewed about God calling Trump to be a battle axe, they should be losing their fucking minds because this is playing out live. This is in effect a miracle.

No, the Crusades started for less. Yes. The production notes for this episode that Alex accidentally puts on camera kind of make it a little too obvious that they could have fake this really easily. Also, when Doe sits down and reads this person's letter who sent the axe, they show his whole address and phone number. which is not cool. You have to be more correct and careful about protecting people's privacy when you're doing fake miracles as publicity stunts. Wild.

But yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I was kind of interested in that. Like, okay, we just rewatch that amazing race season with the long-lost twins. I think there's more than one. See, that's the problem.

Yeah. That's, but. The young ladies? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that one. Always, always, always on the side of long-lost twins, of course. But then these two people said something that made me want to start a riot. And then everybody just acted like it was totally fine.

And they were like, we both feed, we both eat two hard-boiled eggs in the morning, and we feed the second one to our dog. Independently, they both came up with this very extremely specific thing that they do together and they're twins. And that's fucked up. It's unacceptable that that is allowed to happen on this earth. And then everybody's just like, ah, whatever. Weird coincidence like that. No.

Well, I think that in cases like this, and I don't want to impugn their storytelling. Sure. But I think that there might be a situation where one of them did it regularly and one of them might have done it before. And when they talk, the one who does it regularly tells this piece of their history. And the other one's like, oh, my God, I do that too. Right, right. And it becomes a piece of it. of the lore of

Of course. You know, like... Absolutely. I think that people have a tendency to do that kind of stuff. This is what I'm saying. It needs to be addressed.

No, it doesn't. Not that one. Because it's cute. Let people have it. Let people have the mythology of their relationships. Sure. That's fine.

This is faking a miracle on air in order to push Trump. I don't know if it gets more blasphemous than faking a miracle other than doing it on air. I mean, also while fake crying and probably praying, I'm assuming he's praying. We might get to some prayer a little bit. There we go.

There's also an element of it that Trump has just threatened to genocide Iran and Alex has said he got much better sleep because God made him feel better after he called for the 25th Amendment. So this is kind of all over the place. It's very strange. It's a strange day. Yeah. So lest you think that Alex has fake this, he reassures everyone that he. that he did not.

Oh, thank you. Read these notes before the show. I was worried. God told him to do this. Just for this moment so people see how real God is. Look, that's another miracle right there. Yeah.

That's pretty crazy. And the blood comes across. There is right there. Read what you said till 10 minutes before you came on. No, I just, I mean, I just got it and walked in here. I'm like, this needs to go on the air. It was a sign from God. I'll tell you what.

Let me do something. We need to give God some. Lord right now. Oh, this is go. Oh, fire. Wow. Where it goes fire burn. Boof. Everywhere.

Oh, it goes fire burn. Are you making that up? I don't, I'm not sure. I don't know, but he goes on a bit. The lyrics don't evolve. Are you freestyle in that? Are you just throwing that off the dome? Is that what we're doing here?

I was watching this and it was like, oh my God. You just started singing. This is awesome. Amazing. Amazing. They faked a miracle. And now he's. singing the Holy Ghost firebird.

Yeah, this is the type of cheap shit I've been waiting for. This is what I am here for. I'm sick of the past what year and a half, two years of shit. I'm out here for this, baby. Oh yeah. Give me that. Dark Waters. So after Dark Waters sings a little bit. He does a prayer

with Alex in order to free Trump from the control of the witches. Lord, we decree and declare as the Ecclesia now in the name of Jesus Christ that every form of witchcraft, sorcery, and divination has been cast against our president is now broken. And we invoke and plead the blood of Jesus Christ against it, Lord. His realm of thoughts and his realm of imaginations, Lord, we invoke and plead the blood

of Jesus Christ over that. And we decree and declare freedom for his mind, freedom for his heart, freedom from his soul, whoa, freedom from his soul that they've tried to hang. And everyone must join us. Everyone must join us to pray for Trump right now. We're going to break this demonic spell right now. The name of Jesus. We break it now in the name of Jesus Christ. Lord, we thank you and we praise you. When we understand. honor you for this great opportunity. There's a great opportunity to free Trump from the spell of the demonic witches. Sure.

This is important. I wonder about the mindset of a God if you think that an increase in oratory skill is going to also increase your likelihood of receiving what you desire from said God, right? I don't know. I mean, Alex is a rich tradition of that like sovereign citizen stuff. Right. Like the technicalities and capital letters. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. So maybe he does think, like, we got to speak this real well. Totally. Totally. That's what I'm saying. I'm thinking about the mindset of the God in this situation. What's up with this dude? He's a stickler for pronunciation.

Right. Which languages are the best for him? You know what I'm saying? Are we talking somebody who's speaking in this language is better at just by virtue of the language they're speaking? Well, I think it's obvious that English is the best. I mean, come on. And you might argue that like, oh, these holy texts,

They weren't written in English, right? Sure, there is that. But English, do you think it's a coincidence that every language can be translated into English? That's God. No other language. The best thing I've ever heard. That's the best argument I've ever heard for anything in my life. It makes too much sense.

I submit. You can't go French to Russian? You have to go French to English to Russian. I'm on board with this God now. It happened fast. So God came to this guy Months ago Right

And told him to make this axe Yeah Specifically so it would arrive Right While Dark Waters Was on this show Speaking his prophecy Very specific

But how crazy is this just Delivered the last 30 minutes Rob is delivered it 10 minutes ago He's watching him about battle axes They walk in with this and the man says I was told by God in Oklahoma Make this for you Like close encounter for you

He was told to make the mountain I had to send this to you and my son said send it, and it perfectly arrives right as you're talking about it. That is the power of God, literally telling us that your message was true. God obviously knows the future for saw all this moment to back up what you just said. Yep. Watch this. J.D. Vance.

Watch this shit. Lizzie Wows. Caroline Love it. Every Christian inside the White House, call a fast. You can just have the Christian staff fast. Call it fast. You can call it fast of the ecclesia, the entire church to fast for the president. Oh, my God.

You just said it. God's whole point was to make them listen to you about the fast. Call the fast. And so call for a minute. God literally just took a highlighter to everything you just said. In God's plan, literally had someone make this months ago, be pushed by God. And son said, send it now to perfectly arrive. Not last week, not yesterday, today, 20 minutes ago to Rob do see it, delivered it, saying this is for Alex. We talked.

The guy, the guy that delivered didn't even know this was going on. Perfect. That's God's perfection right there. You just saw. Is that it? Yep. And look how badass it is. It's also a badass X.

All right. So here's the other problem with this God. I get you. The oration, English, obviously, your argument is fantastic. Thank you. This particular situation, especially the way that Alex is describing it,

has the feel of a god on the couch with another dude going like, you are not going to believe this shit. Check this out. I fucking mailed this shit. You're not going to believe this. They're going to go crazy. It's like, it brings to mind

people who set up elaborate dominoes. Yeah. You know, like in order to watch them. You gotta get something else to do with your life, man. It's a hobby. It is a hobby, but I don't like that the battle acts in my life is involved. I think that Alex is convincing. Rob, too.

That is nuts. Wow. I mean, there is a chance that, like, unbeknownst to us, Rob do is like an acid casualty or something like that. And like he just doesn't have any affect. What's in there? Yeah. What's in there, do? So maybe he is freaking out, but he just can't express it or something.

I don't know. But I will say I have to, while we're on the subject of experts that Alex has on, whose name start in dark. Yes. I like watch this as a catchphrase much better than dark journalists. No question about it. Right. Right, right. No, watch this is great.

That's so good. Watch this is one of the best things to say. Watch this is always great because either it is somebody who's about to do something cool or somebody who's about to fail in a cool way. Yeah. It's going to be great. Yeah. I think that I say look and listen a bit. Sure.

You know, and I don't generally mean them to be like emphatic, aggressive. Asshole. Right. Look, asshole. Watch this. Yeah, yeah. That's the same way. I think it's great.

Watch this comes with a smile. Yeah. Watch this. So, there's a lot of dominoes here. Sure. And one of them, it turns out, was picking Dark Waters' wardrobe. Before I come on the show, I'm sitting, and I say, God, what do you want me to do? He said, I want you to give him the scriptures and send them everything that you're going to talk about.

And I was like, you sure I need to do that? And send it to him. And then I have one thing. He said, no, give the scriptures on it. You didn't do that last time. Yeah, I didn't, right? Are we doing this? That's what he told me to do.

He's like, give the scriptures. And I was like, okay, give him the script. And I was like, okay, give him a script. And I was like, okay. And then he was like, now go sit down and relax and get ready to go. So I, you know, then I actually, I sat down. I had a different shirt on. He said, no, go put on your sports jacket in a white shirt.

I said, okay. What a weird God! My thing is, ladies and gentlemen, God will speak to you. If you pray to him, if you talk to him. You rarely wear a sports shirt. I guess God won this be a special jacket. Are we doing this? He said, right?

He said, put on the jacket, put on the shirt. He never says that. Be like, what you, I'm, I'll say, Lord, what do you want me to wear? Whatever you want to wear. Okay, cool. Okay, cool. God doesn't generally say you should wear something nice. And I think that that speaks to the fact that God knew that this was going to be a miracle.

And he wanted him to look nice. Yeah. Like it's a profession. They're going to an award show or something. Dress up. Yeah. I like his extremely personal relationship with God. Almost too personal.

Weirdly personal. Sartorial in the closet behind me kind of level. God, what do you want me to wear? I don't care. Buddy, I'm out. Out here, Saul, somebody needs to win a sports game somewhere. And I'm supposed to be doing that. And now I've got to tell you to wear a sports jacket.

Yeah. Jesus. It's good friends. Gonna mail you a battle X. That makes sense. It's good stuff. Yeah, man, people. So earlier on the show, Alex played his interview with Marjorie Taylor Green.

Sure. And she had some problems with Trump's Easter tweet. Yeah. Love that shit. He thought it was great. Okay. And Alex is starting to get a little annoyed that Dark Waters is not impressed by the miracle that has just happened.

But you're going to have to be truthful with the man. If you love him and you dare to serve him, you have to be truthful with him. And then let the Lord deal with the rest of it because he's God's anointed. And that's what we have to do. We can't get our feelings hurt because he says mean things. We can't get our feelings hurt because he sent a mean treater, a tweet out on Easter where he was actually on some Elijah type stuff. Elijah was against the priestess of ball on Mount Carmel.

He was like, well, where's your God? Is he in the privy? When I read it, I bust out laughing because I said, this dude is wild. I'm a blow you up. I agree with that. I agree with that. I was like, dang, Donald, you're wilding out. So you not only tell him you're going to throw him up, blow him up, but you're teasing,

hey, God, saying he can't stop you from me from blowing you up. But people don't see it that way. They saw it as. Let's hear my God, Donald said something. Let's see with us. You got to come back the next week. Because I'm not mad at it. You kind of moved on from it, which I'm not.

saying it's bad. But I had you on about the aliens, right before you send a list and look at it. I'm like, what's this about God's a battle axe? And we got to, you're okay? Well, I go, let's go there then, because I want to hear a defense of Trump. I mean, I need that. And then you're like, you're a battle axe, I'm a battle axe, but we have to trump's our battlex. We've got to fight over the weapon. And then literally FedEx pulls up right when you're on, they walk in with a letter saying, God told me to make you this battle axe and sent it to you as a message to keep fighting. I mean, show the battle acts, folks. That is incredible.

This is one of the most incredible things ever. So Alex is basically saying one more time with feeling. Let's take this again and let's act like you just saw a miracle, man. You paid for the upgraded package of the miracle package. Yes. You are not playing the game. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, what do you do? I think that's. you gotta let me in on a game like that, you know, you gotta have a, you can't expect me to improv, you can't expect me to yes and a miracle without going like,

buddy, I think this is bullshit, you know? Yeah, I wonder where the communication point was. Like, at what, who,

whose idea was it to like kick this up a notch? Yep, yep. Because if it was Darkwater's idea, then like, he is kind of underselling this. Yeah. And he's,

he's acting poorly. No, you're totally right but if this is just something that like there was an axe around the office and rob dude brought it in let's throw this out as a game see what happens then it makes sense that dark waters is kind of like uh you know he's yeah he's rolling with it kind of as well as he can see look at i've saying i gave you a little random song word and if this is alex's idea boof that's awesome it feels very strongly like it's come from the info war side based upon alex's uh fury at uh uh not being acknowledged for being the greatest talk show host ever.

Maybe, but like, I think that that Fury could come also from someone who is like, hey, you wanted to do this and now you're not helping me sell it. Totally. And I think that that would explain the frustration. Both would be very angry making. Yeah. So we come to the end of Darkwater's interview and Alex asks for a prayer on the way out. Oh, boy.

We got a minute. That's why we have a leader in a prayer for Trump's defense and Trump's a wagon defending from these evil people around him, and we take back control through the Holy Spirit. The guy gets back control and drop. He gets back under God's control. Sure, let's hit it real quick. Lord, we think we plead the blood of Jesus Christ over sinningiquity and transgression and speak against us into the courts of heaven.

And Lord, we honor you because you are our God. You are a rock and our strong tower. You are our deliver. Thanks, buddy. Lord. What up? Lord, let me say a quick prayer for the Info Wars crew. Lord, as Alex Jones is the head of the Info Wars crew, Lord,

I ask that you give him rest And Lord, any wicked spirits That have attached to him or gleaned on to him Because of the stress and anxiety That have hit him. Lord your word says Be ye anxious for nothing But in all things through prayer and supplication Make your request on the Lord.

Lord I ask that every request in prayer That the Info Wars crew and its members Have made unto you, Lord. We ask that according to scripture, you answer those prayers. Lord, the Lord, the spirit of Nope, you hesitated.

I don't count your prayer. That's trying to attack each and every person in that building like it's outside of the building. Lord Spirit, we bind you now in the name of Jesus Christ. There hasn't been any mention of alcoholism up till this point. Nope. And it really sounds like he's reading off something. Yeah. Alex cuts him off mid-prayer to go to break.

So I don't know if he pissed Alex off with that or not, but it felt really weird. Yeah. So unbeknownst to Alex and Dark Waters, right around when they're saying this prayer, like, just reveling in the mirror. That is the magic battle acts. Yeah. The witches were planning their counter move. Okay.

At 3.28 p.m. on this very day. Okay. Trump took to Truth Social and posted the following. I warn you in advance, this is very long. Okay. Great. Now I'm stoked. Yeah.

You have no fucking idea. A lot of Trump words. That's what I want to hear. Quote, I know why Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candice Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years. Oh shit! Oh shit! I was fucking the checklist.

The checklist is happening. It's everything. Everything will be taken from you. Like a fucking girth novel or some shit. I know that there's going to be a lot of this. And I encourage it. I know why Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years,

especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror to have a nuclear weapon. Because they have one thing in common, low IQ. They're stupid people. Now we're talking. They're stupid people.

I don't know what he was saying. My IQ's too low to understand if that's an insult. Now I get it, baby. They're stupid people. They know it. Their families know it. Their families do know it. Though their family,

that's just an honest one. And everyone else knows it too. Look at their past. Look at their record. They don't have what it takes, and they never did. They've been thrown off television, lost their jobs, and they aren't even invited on TV because no one cares about them. For you! For!

All of this was done for you! Just like I told them, it would be thrown away! Everyone knew that. Oh, my God. They're dumb. They're dumb. They've got low IQs. They're not jobs.

Troublemakers. And we'll say anything for some free and cheap publicity. Can't argue that. Now they think they'll get some clicks because they have third rate podcasts, but nobody's talking about them and their views are the opposite of MAGA. Or I wouldn't have won the presidential election in a landslide. Wait, I'm confused. I'm confused. Here's my one point of order because up to this point, Trump, I've loved everything you've said so far.

These people are dumb. Fantastic. They are chasing attention. These are solid insults. I do love that you brought their families into it. That's perfect. That's beautiful and sweet. I don't understand

this last part they're the opposite of MAGA no no no no no you're the president you can't say no one is talking about them you are you're the most person

to talk about anybody right yeah no I know there's an inherent problem with that yeah yeah yeah you just can't do that you can just leave that but leave that one out you know you don't need to

that doesn't get in the way of anything else just taking that out but it still stings for these people I get it I get you I'm just saying if we're going if we're going for clarity I'd cut that out Listen, there was no editing done on this.

I believe that strongly. It was so long. I believe that. Maga agrees with me and just gave CNN a 100% approval rating of Trump. But hand flailing fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn't even finish college. He was a broken man when he got fired from Fox. And he's never been the same. Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist.

Yes. Yes, please. Back on it. Back on track. Or Megan Kelly, who nastily attacked me with the now famous only Rosie O'Donnell question, or crazy Candace Owen, Owens, who accuses the highly respected First Lady of France of being a man when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Okay.

Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace. In fact, it's not even close. See, that this is the type of shit that you can only get to. from truly crazy. Yes. That's only true crazy would have to add that. I can't, listen, I can't not appreciate the beauty of a woman. I just got to tell you.

I just got to tell you. And to me, she's hotter than you. She's hotter than you. You're ugly. Or bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things and lost his entire fortune as he should have for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting. Everything. Everything will be taken from you.

Everything you have loved, I will eat as it you die. Ridiculously claiming it was a hoax. Oh, my God. These so-called pundits are losers, and they always will be. Now, fake news, CNN, the failing New York Times, and all the other radical left news organizations are hailing them and giving them positive press for the first time in their lives. They're not MAGA.

They're losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA. Yeah. As president, I could get them on my side any time I wanted to. But when they call, I don't return their calls because I'm too busy on world and country affairs. And after a few times, they go nasty, just like Marjorie Trader Brown. But I no longer care about that stuff. I only care about doing right for our country. See, I got to edit you down again.

See, you totally do. You've just written a very long paragraph. Just cut that, just cut this little part out. Yeah, yeah, just cut that little part out. You don't need it. Move on. Maga is about winning and strength. in not allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons.

Maga is about making America great again, and these people have no idea to do that. But I do. Okay. Because the United States is now the hottest country anywhere in the world. Wow. What? President Donald J. Trump.

That was it. That's the end of it. Yeah. The end of it is the USA is now the hottest country anywhere in the world. All caps and hottest is in quotes. What? There's a lot of stuff in here that I tried to accentuate. Like that is capital letters and quotes.

You're trying to give it a good cold read. Yeah. It's a mess, man. It's crazy. The U.S. is now the hottest country in the... He says that a bit. Hottest country. Yeah.

As opposed to like when Biden was in office, we were not cool. We were not happening. And he hasn't been 25th Amendment did before this. Wild. So that post pretty crazy. Pretty good stuff. That is... That is...

I don't even... I mean, poetic doesn't describe it. No. Poetic can't describe it because it is not poetic. No. In a way, it has. Sure. No.

Beauty is truth and truth is beauty. That is pretty beautiful. So we were mid-recording our last episode when he posts this. And when I went to lay down for a minute afterwards, I got a text from Amanda with a link to it. And I can't tell you how funny I thought it was. Oh, my God. I was losing my shit. Yeah.

There's a surface level to this where this is the first time I can remember Trump acknowledging Alex in public since 2015. Yep. And it's a brutal take down. Oh, it's lovely. All of the times when he could have, like, said nice things about Alex or boosted his profile a little, Trump was silent. But now this is clear and direct. But there's another level to it, which is that a couple of these insults are exactly the kind of stuff a real asshole would say to get under Alex's skin. Yep.

Alex has issues with feeling inadequate, particularly in relation to his family, where he has to create a mythical hero out of his dad, and he clearly has no respect for his own son. So Trump saying that his family knows he's stupid is brutal. Yeah, that one's heartbreaking. Alex also has inferiority issues around never really being accepted by the mainstream in media. Trump saying that these people are losers who are kicked off TV or never on because they're irrelevant is an affirmation of one of the deep insecurities Alex has, as demonstrated by his. his desperate star-fucking behavior directed at any celebrities who will pay him any attention. Finally, making a strong stance like that about Sandy Hook is a haymaker. Alex's argument about how he got screwed over by the CIA and FBI because he supported Trump

is so flimsy that it really requires no one dissenting from it, particularly not someone in Trump's position. This is the guy who Alex was supposedly persecuted for supporting. The trials were a witch hunt against Alex. but they were really trying to get it Trump. And here's Trump saying that Alex deserved to be bankrupted for what he said about Sandy Hook and how it was horrendous. And it's an example of Alex how he says the dumbest things. Yep.

As soon as I saw this, I felt something I'd not felt in a while. I had legitimately no idea what Alex was going to do. Well, that's a good point. That's a good question. There have been times when I felt like I wasn't sure which path he was going to choose. and I've been surprised by the angles he'd picked on some things like the Epstein cover-up. Sure. This was different.

Even as big as the Epstein stuff was with his audience, there was a way to downplay it. This truth social post was a case where there is no response Alex can make that's a win, and there is no way he can get away with not responding. Yeah. The president just said that he's a liar whose family knows he's dumb, who deserve to lose all his money. And it's happening immediately after Alex and Dark Waters faked a miracle and called for a fast to save Trump from the witches.

That is, now that is poetic. Yes. That is a coincidence that should be a miracle on part with the battle acts if it were actually what it was. These are the times that try men's souls. Yeah. What do you do? I don't know. There is not a really good way forward.

You know, I, when you, there were two things. There were two things that I immediately thought at the end of that, right? Which is that as devastating as all of those. those things were upon further reflection, the most devastating thing that he said is a true thing, which is, I can get them whenever I want. I can get them whenever I want. That would, that would be like, to me, right, my reaction to this in my head, what Alex has to do is scream, you fucked me, and now we go. Now we fight. We fight to the death. You and me are now mortal enemies. I will do everything I can to take everything away from you because you said that you can call on me

whenever you want and I can't allow that to be true. Hey Trump, I misrepresented or I misinterpreted God's message with the Battle X. It's coming for you. It's coming for you. That really should be the only way to go with this. We are doing this. So this happens after Alex's show and Harrison is on air on the war room. Nobody brought in a frantic letter from FedEx.

I printed out a part of the Internet for you to see. No. No? But there is a very clear talking point. Okay. And that is that Alex is not mad. Again, you know, it's like you're going to see a bunch of... I guess for lack of a better term, people like Laura Lumer and Mark Levin, you know,

sounding off on this in case as if this is a big devastating attack, it's just not. that's probably the most pathetic thing about this is like you get him harrison Alex Jones didn't even get angry at this I'm just saying I'm just saying he is crying right now an name Alex Jones he's sort of known for just put him mildly

a little bit of a temper he's got a little bit of a temper sometimes I think you'll all know that it's we appreciate it it's what makes him him but uh yeah this it's not even like we're not even getting angry It's just like, okay, I'm sorry this happened to you. Like, this is weird. Do not tell anyone I'm mad. I'm not mad.

I can't believe. I've never been mad in my life. I, this is the most justifiably mad you could ever. This is Highlanders shit. There can be only one. At the end of this, you or me, not both. Yeah. Alex has left the studio.

Otherwise, he probably would have barged in on Harrison and explained how not mad he was. Oh, he wasn't mad. But we got this instead. And this is convincing. I think that Harrison is really swinging me on the mad thing. Anytime I need to be convinced of something, Harrison is the one that's going to do it. Oh, yeah. Because you know what?

Harrison is, like, he's to the point. Yep. He also doesn't get bogged down and sounding like a weenie. Yeah, that'd be terrible. You know, it's like, I guess this is just our lot. It's just our lot in life is we just, we just get nothing. We just get these people elected. Wee, way, way, we.

immediately turn around and sell us down the river and embrace the people who are fighting against him and trying to stop them. It really is pathetic what they've done to Donald Trump. Very sad. He's got 5 million followers and he gets 12,000 views and less than 400 likes on this post. They, what they're beyond popular? What? Like it's not even like, again, I've, you just really have to.

to think about it. This has big, nice guys finish last kind of energy. And I'd like to remind Harrison that he works at fucking Info Wars and that there's no crying in baseball. The guy who you based your career and identity around promoting just called your boss an idiot who deserves his own destruction. This isn't the time for emo whining about how you always get left at the altar because you're fighting an intergalactic war against the devil.

This is nonsense. Cut it out with this shit. Pathetic. I can't imagine that Harrison is thinking anything other than, man, I wish I'd quit solidarity with Owen. Should have done it. That was a fucking chance to get out of here and I blew it. Oh, God, I bet Owen is fucking, Owen feels probably better than the rest of the world combined.

Owen is probably the only person who can truly feel the pure joy. Because we still hate him. Yeah. We still have to hate both of these guys. Owen. Owen can truly love this. He wasn't in that tweet. Nope.

Oh, man. Good for him. Hey, the moment he stops being a puppet, things go better. for him. Isn't that crazy? Not much better. Hey, listen, let's not go crazy. Yeah, it's, you're, you're not going to be as successful, but you'll be a little freer. You'll be a little bit freer. You'll probably be a lot happier. Maybe. So Harrison whines a bit more about how Trump is ungrateful. And then suggests that Pakistan should nuke Israel. Okay. He says, you know, I know I'm talking and Alex Jones have been fighting me for years. Now, again, Alex Jones has been very deeply

dedicated to resisting the drive to criticize Trump and has been criticized and attacked for it endlessly. Again, doesn't appreciate it. What was that? What hell was that? Pull that up? Who is this? Syrian girl wrote, Pakistan defense minister is furious over Israel's destruction of ceasefire.

So this is the Pakistan defense minister says Israel is evil and a curse for humanity. While peace talks are underway in Islamabad, genocide is being committed in Lebanon. innocent civilians are being killed by Israel, first Gaza, then Iran, now Lebanon, bloodletting continues unabated. I hope and pray for people who created this cancer estate on Palestinian land to get rid of the European Jews burn in hell. I pray people who created the cancerous state of Palestine burn in hell. Israel is evil and a curse for humanity.

He has his hand on the Pakistan nuclear button. I think you should press it. I think you should put. I think you should nuke Israel, Pakistan. Here's my idea. nuke is real. Let's get real wild with it. I said so.

Let's get crazy. It would be just. It would be just and right and good. These guys are against nuclear war. They have some strong principles that they adhere to. You know, okay, in the context of previous times, whenever Alex was like, Trump will look like a weenie forever.

That's nuclear brinkmanship with the whole world's foreign policy. That's bad negotiation. All of those things, right? Petty, you got to put that shit aside. This is pettiness personified. You can't look like a weenie. You cannot. And you look like a weenie right now.

It's nothing is real. Right. You have only paint at your disposal to draw a picture. And you're choosing to draw a picture of yourself as a fucking loser. You are free. He's freed you. He has freed you in a way that you haven't been free for a decade. You can say.

The F word. You just say whatever the fuck you want. Go for it. And like, let's be honest, there's a certain amount of freedom that Harrison has that Alex doesn't. Yeah. And so he's even more free. Yep. And by that.

And this is what he gives us. Yeah. Even more of a weenie because of that. Go back. Go back inside of a cage, little boy. Yeah. It's sad. So anyway, this is the last straw.

Yeah. We just, can we put the old man in a home already? Me. This is kind of it, right? This is kind of like the last straw. like it's so clearly, he's so clearly lost and co-opted and controlled by these Jewish influences around him. It's very sad. It's very sad and pathetic.

Okay, man. I'm excited to hear what the next last straw will be. I just want, I just want them to, I know it's the most difficult thing, I think, in the world for a human being to do. But just go, this is the. inevitable consequences of my own actions. I am the cause of this harm. It is not the Jews. Nope.

It's Trump. Like, it's your decision to have this relationship with him. Yep. Like, he does this to people. You deluded yourself or whatever into whatever beliefs you thought you might be able to get out of it. We all told you where you're going to wind up and now you're here. So just accept that that's what happened instead of me.

being like, eh, I'll do it again next time because it may be the Jews won't be around. Yeah. That's insane. Or at very least, make the most of it. Yeah. Yeah. Have a good time out of it. You can't be surprised by this turn of events.

Yeah. If somebody like frees you from not be, yeah, if you're allowed to be the Joker, just go to town, right? But look, here's a thing. Harrison's been betrayed a lot in the past. And this brings up some tough feelings that he has. I don't know. I have trouble.

being bitter about this. I think I've a pretty high tolerance for being betrayed. It's happened to me a lot. I don't know why. People just do this sort of stuff, you know? It's just like you just do everything for them. Like I said, I mean, my life has been made tangibly worse by the bankruptcy lawsuits. It's been a gigantic source of stress and frustration, the crap we've had to go through.

because of the bankruptcy or just the anxiety of not knowing, you know, if I'm going to have a job the next day or whatever. And again, people mock that too. Oh, what, you're shutting down again? It's like, yeah, it sucks, actually. It actually sucks having your entire existence, the whim of some federal bankruptcy court. I'm not sure exactly what I would have expected from Harrison, but this is so weak. Yeah, this is pathetic. It's all just whining, and it feels defensive and childish.

Also, I'd like to respond to his claim that the, bankruptcy has negatively affected his life by saying that he's using the wrong data points. His salary is probably lower than it could be if Alex didn't go broke. And if you just look at that, then it seems like he's making a good point. Yes. The problem is that he's not taking into consideration that he sucks at his job and would have been fired if he worked for anybody else. Immediately.

Whatever he's making is much more than he should make. And he wouldn't be able to find an on-air job literally anywhere else. Nope. The bankruptcy actually worked strongly to Harrison's advantage because, it made InfoWars a way less appealing place to work, so the potential competition pool was much thinner. In a company that didn't hire most of its talent through contests, Harrison would not be able to cut it against professionals.

So the fact that Alex has been so fucked has kind of provided him a measure of job security. Yeah, 100%. What I'm saying is that this glass half empty thinking is fucking annoying, and I miss Chase. What? I miss Chase. I know.

I don't know. It would have been quoting fascists of history about... He would have gone crazy. Yeah. He would have been a delight. Yes. I mean, this is... See, but this is again, this is why...

This is why Alex was always destined to fail is because he can never have anybody who could threaten his ability on air. Because right now is the perfect chance to take... This is... Alex isn't there. There's a chance that if Owen was hosting the war room, he would just have a breakdown of like... No, fuck this shit. Yeah, absolutely. This is your...

chance to go absolutely apeshit insane on Info Wars in a way that Alex doesn't have the courage to do, which will be a fucking, for Harrison Smith, that would be a launch pad. But I think that Harrison kind of thinks he is doing that by saying they should nuke Israel. Yeah, I know. He's, saying that Jewish influences. He's going to be a weenie forever, Dan. Yeah, I think he thinks that he's having kind of a moment, but it's not. And even compare his moment on air when J6 happened.

Yeah. Like, yep, to this. We have the capital or whatever. Yeah, that was, there was so much more elation and, like, being in the pocket. Yeah. Whereas this is, man. I mean, you, I always, everyone betrays me. You tear your fucking shirt open like the, like Hogan.

Like, you go, ah! And then you go off. How is this? Your response. It's rough. This is, oh, man, he would be fired anywhere else. So Harrison starts to reflect on, like, I think Trump would probably. kill me if you had a chance.

How much you want to bet? You don't exist. Trump would kill us if he could. What do you think the likelihood is that if he could, Trump would just drop a bomb on us? The far right, right-wingers

that got him elected in the first place. He's a piece of shit. I mean, there's really nothing more. It's like, the more I think about it, the more is just like, damn, we really did get fooled. We really did get consoled. We really did get conned.

He really is what our enemy said he was. So just sad. Just sad. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Globalists were right about Trump all along. Holy shit.

We got fooled. This guy's a piece of shit. Also, we're not angry about this. You know, here's the thing that just occurred to me. Everywhere I've ever worked, I kind of got a feel for the history of the place or the general vibe of the place or like the identity overall you know if you're if you're talking about the the cubs corporate culture you know there's there's an identity there that's that is different from other teams you know they've got their own identity here we've got or we're a tough kind of town

that kind of thing right there how is it that you can be in info wars and think this is acceptable well i think it's things have changed a bit you know like all i can think about is is like Alex screaming at Pierce Morgan about some imaginary plot that Peers had to take his guns. Yep. Like compared to Harrison, oh, Trump, he's a piece of shit, man.

So sad. And so sad. So I just think that this is an unlistenable wine fest. Yep. So again, you know, it's like it's, this is what I mean, is that it's actually not a reflection on us. that's the thing like you need to understand it's not we're not sitting here like oh my god what did we do wrong

you should be so we haven't done anything wrong you got fooled Jesus Christ just just added on to the betrayal and it proves us right and it proves us absolutely right that all the hope that people had in Donald Trump turns out to be utterly misplaced the hope that you had and you I mean profited off selling like it's just it it it it's just it it this comes off like, I don't know who could want this. I get that there's Nazi shit mixed in. Sure. So I know that some people get a charge out of that.

I guess. But this guy comes off like the weeniest of weans. Yeah, this is, I mean, if I was going to have anybody be blindsided. If I'm, here's the thing, though, if I'm Alex, right, if I was going to have anybody be blindsided by this, I wouldn't be Harrison. Nobody's watching. he's doing such a poor job, people will turn it off. Yeah. Even if they were watching.

So you don't have to worry about the consequences of what he does. No, because I think that some people would still stick around because they think, oh, Alex is going to fucking wake up from his nap and he's going to barge in here. That's a good point. So I still think that there's like a little bit of a, we're going to hear the glass break. Yeah. Stone Cold is going to storm into the studio. That makes sense.

But either way, to be blindsided by it on air, that's, that's, you want Harrison to have that. Right. Of the on-air talents that he has now, I think his son, Rex, has been hosting the American Journal a bit. Good for him. So I think, like, you definitely don't want Rex on air. No. That's... That'd be fun, though. It would.

He'd be so unequipped to do something. And it's so personal and shit. Like, you really don't want that. It'd be a delight. Harrison probably is the best shot of Info War's employees. Yeah. Except for maybe Rob Doe. He's stoic.

Rob do would be great. Ah, looks like Trump said all this stuff. Oh, well. You know, people say things all the time. And I feel great. So Harrison gets a clip of Alex responding. Okay. Oh, Alex has responded outside of Info Wars.

Alex has shot a video in his car. Gotcha. All right. So Alex is driving home when this news hits. Okay. I think maybe he's driving to go beat something. Sure, sure, sure. An ex-throwing thing.

A shooting range, something like that. But, yeah, I got to say, I don't know if it's because it's mixed in with Harrison's response, but Alex's response actually kind of seems classy. So again, it's not like, oh, you know, Trump turned on us, so now we're going to turn on him. It's like Trump turning on us is like evidence that he's gone.

It's like evidence that it's not worth it to try to, you know, say, hey, he's not the best, but he's all we've got. It's like, no, no, no. He has a serious underlying major dysfunction. that means that he is constantly taken advantage of by the worst people and yet is loyal to them to a fault and the people who are loyal to him are all just suckers seriously really sucks it really does all right let's go to this

alex jones response to uh trump's little tantrum his little his little tantrum let's watch well well president trump came out on true social and attack myself and all the original Mago supporters today. And I'm just so sad that whatever's happened to him has totally changed the man he once was. He did so much good. That said, it followed just a few hours after Melania Trump came out, unannounced. Portly Trump didn't know and said she wasn't involved with Epstein and she supports a full investigation by Congress in the Epstein cover-up. Trump says

Epstein's a hoax. So this reminds me of Melinda Gates, Melinda French, when she started turning against Bill also over Epstein. So Trump's got big problems, folks. This is pretty good stuff from Alex. I got to tip the hat when he comes through with something that kind of works. Bringing up Melania doing a press conference to say that she didn't meet Trump through Epstein and suggesting that she's doing that to distance herself from Trump because he's clearly implicated and all this stuff, that's a way to ignore the substance of what Trump said

and still make the response kind of an attack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it still kind of sucks. And the fact that it's only a couple hours after Alex participated in an on-air miracle about how they have to save Trump from the witches. It kind of takes away from the impact of this stoic response. But it's not bad for something on the fly that he shot in his car. Like he's not going to be able to like punch the horn or slam on the – Like he's just going to look like a baby if he's freaking out in his car.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If he's not at the studio. No, you – when you get – you go to the studio. Like, I don't – You got to turn your car around. Maybe I'm just crazy. Maybe I'm just crazy, but it is like, if this happens, I am thinking, if I'm Alex, I'm thinking I'm going to make as much money as I can off of this.

This is going to be the best thing ever. This frees me from having to do the shitty shit I have been doing. I can make my show much more interesting. I'll be more interesting, period. And so what I do is I spin the car around. I tell Harrison to get the fuck out of here. I make the whole fucking scene blank for a while. Nobody's even on air, but it's always streaming.

It's all there emptiness. And then I show up, I walk in, I rip my fucking shirt up. There are flames showing up behind me, like pyrotechnics. And I am fucking screaming directly into the camera. The idea that I would be like, you know, this is real bad behavior from an adult. It is, it is. And I think the only alternative to what you're pitching is, is, if Alex was in his car.

And he explains to the audience, I am going to drive to Florida and shoot Roger Stone with a dart full of polonium. I'm going to finish the job on that motherfucker. And I'll see you in a week.

I would accept him holding somebody by the throat off camera. Just like him, just say like, don't worry about what this arm is doing. Don't you worry about it. Yeah. Let's check the headlines. Roger Stone missing.

Oh, weird. Weird how that. happens. It's a good thing I'm not in car. Unrelated to where my arm is. Uh-oh. Yeah. That would be, that would be fun. Man, this is sad. These people suck. Yeah. These people suck. When they're

supposed to step up, they fail. Yeah. So here's the rest of Alex's car response. This is terrible day and it's a nightmare for America in the world, but I'm going to tell the truth report on the facts no matter what it is. Was I somewhat naive? Did I defend Trump too long?

He did so much good? Yeah, I did. Are people that, you know, said I'd defend him too long? Are they right? Yeah, it looks like they are. Find out to a victory lap. But I did it from a place. I believe he was the lesser two evils. And I guess the end of the day,

just to be done, may the habits fall, there's no such thing as lesser evil. So I took the establishment attacking him as the sign I should support him. I took myself being attacked for supporting him, which is a sign I should support him. And now it's certainly clear that this new Donald Trump is somebody we shouldn't support, and I'm not. So I'm energetically opposing him.

I'm calling for the 25th Amendment. If he continues to call for nuclear war and genocide. type. Hopefully it backs down. We'll continue to report. This is unfolds, but that's the facts. Melania Trump. They've said, you know, it was turning against Trump years ago. I never believed it. But now she's definitely countermanding what he's said and done, saying there's nothing to Epstein. She's saying there is.

She's saying there is. She's being investigated. I stand with Maloney and Trump, and I stand with the truth. I stand with the victims of Epstein against the Epstein class. Follow on the next to Roll Ox Jones. I'm a rebel the Alkshones show. God bless you all. So Harrison came back on after this and I instantly turned off the show. so I have no idea what the rest of that show was, but I'm sure it was insightful.

I'm sure. I was really excited for Friday's episode because that little response video felt kind of uninspired. It felt like he was going through the motions. Yeah. On the one hand, it brought up this shit talking about Melania, and that's kind of a decent attempt

at redirecting energy, but it also felt empty. That video's like a minute and a half long, and it's supposed to be responding to Trump directly calling Alex an idiot who lied about Sandy Hook. He said his family knows he's dumb. This year was personal. So this is underwhelming. You can't do this.

Yeah, I don't, I guess it's just, it's just a measure of how bad his instincts truly have gotten. Because to me, this is money. I am hearing caichings. I am hearing Donald Trump started a feud with me. Yeah. Started. And I want to hold back the point that I want to make about that. Yeah.

Until we're done. Okay. But I agree with you. And I think that this is not furthering that. No, this is not money at all. No. Money is in the feud. Money is in, you know, Kendrick and Drake is money.

You don't, you don't like, if Kendrick was like, you know what, I'm going to be the bigger man. That's a loss of money. Yeah. You don't take the high road when there's the opportunity. Yeah. You're a fucking con man opportunist. Of course you got to go for the money. Yeah.

And so we'll see what you. does on a on the old April 10th Friday show let's see so we start off Alex is in the chair he's in studio okay very sad very sad man um and apparently Trump is being blackmailed the evidence is overwhelming that Trump is being blackmailed by the Israel lobby and when we saw Malani and Trump I'm gonna play her full clip here at a moment come out yesterday and it's reported Trump didn't know this was about to happen. She said, I'm doing a press conference where I'm going to make a statement. And she went out there with that six-minute statement and said Epstein is real. He's an abuser. The victims deserve justice. Congress needs to hold hearings. The cover-up needs to end.

And then you can just juxtapose that with Trump. Dozens of times. It's a hoax. It doesn't exist. Nothing happened. His FBI director, deputy director on TV saying he act alone. He wasn't a human trafficker. when Gisley Maxwell's in prison for that. And then here's his wife. So Trump said if Trump said in statements, we're getting them, and on true social and in person,

with his mouth verbally, that if you think Epstein's real, you're not maga. Remember that? We'll play the clips. Well, now, by his yardstick, Melania Trump is not MAGA. Got him. His wife is low IQ.

Finally. His wife's a Democrat Party operative. This'll stick. His wife's a stooge. This is kind of like trying to make it personal in a way. You know, like it's not good, though. No. You know, like it's not compelling in the same way as Trump saying your families know you're fucking dumb.

Yeah. Like that is like that Trump tweet is. And your glue. It's a drive-by. Yeah. What are you doing? He does some damage and then gets out of there. Yeah.

And this is an attempt for Alex to be like, your wife thinks you're a pedophile. Right? And like, I don't, it just doesn't, it doesn't have the. See, see, aha, by your own words, sir, you have been hoisted upon your own petard. Because your wife is stupid. Ha-ha, I bet you feel stupid now, don't you? By your logic, your wife is dumb. Wow.

But then also, like, if his wife is coming out. out and being like, hey, I got to get away from him because he... Hey, this guy's a pedophile and a rapist. What did Roger know? Yeah. Like, come on, man. Come on, man. What did you know?

We all knew. Right. We all knew. So, like, if you're trying to make... He said, grab him by the pussy on the first go round. Locker talk. Locker talk. Locker room talk. Locker room talk.

But I think that, I think that this is something that doesn't really work well for Alex because if true, it also hurts Alex. Yeah. He didn't do any due diligence in terms of investigating Trump before he decided to get on board with him if this is true. Mm-hmm. So, like, it's trying to, you should use, like, a ranged weapon instead of a bomb fest. You're Alex, right? You're not out here, you know, trying to be clever, right?

If he's calling you low IQ, you fucking lean into it, man. I think the obvious move for Alex, and I'm not saying this is the best move, but the obvious move is to talk shit about his dick. No. That's the move. He's got a tiny shriveled little penis. I go the opposite direction. You were saying that, you know, he's being attacked as low IQ. Yeah.

I think the next day, Alex does a fucking spelling bee. The Info War's spelling beat. See, this is the problem with any. Any attempt to prove out low IQ only reaffirms low IQ. Yeah, but that's the problem. Come on, it would be so fun, though. That would be like the painting show. No, I'm with you.

I would like to live in that world. So Alex is suggesting that Trump was being blackmailed. Sure. Basically about Melania having a relationship with Galane Maxwell in the past. Some form of a relationship that there's evidence of existing. Right. And that she did soft. core porn.

Sure. And I don't think this makes sense. Trump isn't being blackmailed any real Epstein stuff himself, sex-wise, but it's the people around him like Howard Ludding and others, which is to make it firm. I said, I think it's going to be Lutnik from what we knew, the connections living next toward Epstein and the rest of it. He got caught in line above the island and all that. But I also said, knowing that scene, knowing insiders, like Roger Stone, he didn't

tell anything about this. Yeah, he did. You saw this recycled 10 years ago. It just got recycled again. You've heard this thousand times for me that Melania was a hooker. and that she was under Epstein's control at a modeling agency that's the cover for it, and then that's how he met Melania a year later. We've checked that.

It's not true. But that's what they were holding back and using, embarrassing her and embarrassing Trump. That's the kind of thing they were holding over his head when he told Marjorie Chilli Green. It'll hurt my friends. It'll hurt people close to me. Not just Ludnik, but his wife, because there's emails. And you know there's not just this one where, oh, so incredible. in Palm Beach, I want to come back soon.

You're so amazing. You're so beautiful, Gis Lane. This is when she's this beautiful supermodel doing, you know, soft porn shoots and whatever, not putting her down for that. It's very artsy stuff. Her was another beautiful woman laying there. I'm not going to lie and say, I don't like it. And when Trump knew that was about to be released, we were trying to blackmail him 10 years ago,

because I talk people that did it, not the blackmail, but Trump's people. They leaked it to the New York Post, the pictures themselves, to get ahead of it. Trump did. I got it from the guy that did it. You probably imagine what was what his name. famous. By the way, Roger Stone's joining us next hour to get into all of this. Okay. All right. He's a little upset with me, but that's okay.

Now we're listening. So you don't want to miss any of this coming up today. What promise. So this is really dumb because let's assume that everything Alex is saying is correct. If the blackmail that the globalists had on Trump was that these nude pictures of Melania were there, then they wouldn't have any blackmail left after Roger leaked the pictures to the post, which was in 2016. There isn't anything left for Trump to be embarrassed by here in Alex's framing,

and even before the post published them, these pictures weren't secretly held blackmail material. They were published in a French magazine in 1997. Yeah. I get that Alex has decided to commit to the Melania press conference angle, but there isn't much juice here. There's one upside, which is that it's a super personal attack, but Alex can pretend that it's about politics,

so he doesn't have to feel like he's rolling around in the mud and going tit for tat with Trump being an asshole. Right. But it also seems like a bad idea to have Roger on the show the day after Trump posted that shit. Yeah. You know he's siding with Trump. Yeah, he has to. Unless you plan on tearing Roger to shreds, this is a setup for humiliation.

Yep. This is a calling Steve Pachennick during a hurricane situation. You are about to make yourself look even more pathetic. Yeah. When Roger convinces you to go crawling back. Yeah. Harrison was like, I'm a weenie. And Alex is like, hold my beer.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Please don't. Please don't. What? He's not going to do it, is he? Well, he's a weenie. Oh.

Yeah, he's going to interview Roger. Roger's going to show up. Yeah, but you got to, he's not going to fight. He's going to lose. We'll see what happens. What a loser. God damn it. So when I read you Trump's post,

yes. One of the things that stuck out to you was the idea of like, I could have you at any minute. Yeah. I don't return your calls, you dumb asshole. Because he can and he's still. still can and he knows it and Alex knows it. Well, it definitely struck a nerve with Alex.

Yeah. And then I get to hear Trump say, oh, I don't call him back. So he's mad at me. I could have him on my side if I wanted to, but I'm too busy with National and World Affairs. Dude, you invited me to Marlago and to the White House last year. And I said, oh, yeah, sure. Okay.

Oh, talk to this. Okay, great. And didn't make the call. Didn't go. Because I don't want to sit. there in a room with 20 people at dinner and have you pat me on the head and tell everybody how great I am. I really don't like that. I want victory over the globalist. I want to free humanity. That is what excites. I want war on tyranny. I have boiling blood. I'm a warrior. This is my

mission. It's my pedigree. It's in my blood, not being a sycophant in a king's court. I'm on the front lines, not in some Sun King's court, seeing who can kiss ass the most and steal the most money. You're about to kiss ass the list. If I wanted that, I'd have had all that. You are pathetic. I'm not Judas Ascarian. When he's a biblical example, I'm John the Baptist,

heralding the global revolution in awakening. That's my, and even the left and the Rockefeller Foundation, years ago, it was in the Newsweek and stuff with it was big. And then even Rockefeller Foundation, they said, this guy's got to be stopped. Like 15 years ago, they go, he's going to he is like the john the baptist of the tea party radicalizing them and i when i read those reports later not just in the news but in you know rockefeller foundation stuff it's publicly and i'm just like

oh i was so proud of that i was like oh my god you should be that's how smart they are they're smart so i love all these lightweights johnny come lately nobody's come along and say that i am on a catari payroll and he'd be put in prison with no evidence before i was i was a russian agent Yeah, I could get on an airplane, go to Russia and say 50 million a year, and they'd put me in as a propaganda head, and I'd sit there. I can't do that. Yeah, no, I've had letterhead from Vladimir Putin signed. Full authorization, total maximum visa.

I published it, showed everybody. I didn't go over there because I didn't want the potential people to say I was doing that. And I've had Israel, the Israeli government, asked me to go to Israel for 20 years, all the same crap. I want to see Israel. I want to see Russia. Sorry can't do it because of the way it looks. I'll just sit here in the wilderness and do what I do. While a bunch of lightweights that don't know anything

and don't have the battle scars, by the way, I love my scars, both real and spiritual. They're memories. They're things I did. They're victories I had. Even my defeats were victories because I didn't give up. I feel like this clip captures the lukewarmness of Alex's response. It's not hot, but you can't really call it cold or even room temperature.

there's something there, but he's not putting a lot of gas in the engine, so it's really light. I'd like to ask two follow-up questions to him based on that clip, though. The first is whether or not he realizes that he just created a distinction between real and spiritual when talking about his scars, which kind of implies that he believes the spiritual stuff is not real. I thought the third dimension was just the playpen, but now apparently cuts you get in your meat body. That's what you call real. Come on, come on. The second is whether or not he thinks that there's an important.

to the idea that he thinks he could get a job as a propagandist in Russia. He doesn't say that he could go over there and be the best chronicler Russia has ever seen or a journalist. He specifically says that he could get $50 million to be a propaganda head. I'd be interested to know if he thinks that this is a subconscious slip that reveals that he knows what his actual career is. And he's not a chronicler. Yeah. But yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting kind of weak response.

Whatever the Rockefeller Foundation or whatever may have said about Alex at the time, that is not about this man. No. This man has nothing to be afraid of. This is no John the Baptist. I can, oh, I'm sorry, what did you say? I literally didn't hear you. And look, I mean, like, say what you want about Judas. A lot of people have different ideas about him based on, you know, maybe some Gnostic texts or whatever.

Sure, sure, sure. But what you have to say is he made a choice. Well, you don't have to say that, but yes Well, maybe he didn't make it, but a choice was made. You know, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't wait around. I know what you mean. Yeah.

Alex should take a lesson. Yeah, absolutely. So he gets a little bit sentimental. He starts thinking back on his early life and how weirdos tried to lure him to sex parties when he was 13. Wild. Told you, folks, Satan's around at all. I told you those stories.

on air for 30 plus years, growing up in the richest county in Texas at the time, and trying to get recruited by rich Satanus. Eyes wide shut, folks, part of my education. I've been the Tom Cruise character, but not when I was some Harvard doctor. When I was 13, 14, 15. But I never took of it, literally repeatedly left. And I just was like, when I was younger, it was like, God, why is this happening to me? Well, it's part of your education, son.

part of your education. And now I've been offered up on the mountain. The money and the power to sell America out. You know what I told them? Piss up a rope. Good Lord. Piss up a rope. I know that Alex's stories can't really be taken seriously,

but what he's describing here is horrible. And I think it's really dark that he thinks God would have this response to him. If this were really happening, then Alex was being exposed to very serious abuse. and no matter how strong and mature he imagines he was at 13, repeatedly having adults try to lure you to eyes wide shut parties would be deeply traumatic. Yep.

There's no other word for that than child abuse, and Alex believes that his God would condone him being subjected to that because it was part of his education. I know that he doesn't really understand the implications of what he's saying, so I don't want to sit here and pretend that Alex is knowingly making the argument that maybe abusers are teachers of divine lessons, but that's kind of accidentally what. he's saying when he self-mythologizes this way.

Yeah. It's fucked up the implications of what he's saying. Yeah. You kind of should support the people who are doing the eyes wide shut parties, luring children to them because it's part of their education to fight the devil. That's really messed up. Yeah. The thing about movies is that movies don't have to continually struggle with their plot holes

or with the problems they're in. They can just go to the next scene. in real life however you can't base your life on movies you can't say oh this is an objectively good thing because I saw it in a movie and it worked out that's not how it's shit

that no no that's horrible no and I think the mentality and the mindset that God is cool with this or wants this to happen is dangerous I can't begin to describe how disappointed I am with this yeah this is real if I

like I admit to feeling it a little bit myself Once I heard those words, I was like, ooh, maybe some good. You know, if I was an Alex Jones former fan or an InfoWorse guy, and I saw that, I would be like tuning in right away. Let's see what this man. Finally, this guy's going to come back to life. Yeah. And then I see this.

It's bad timing that I think he went to go dry out for a week and a half in rehab or whatever, because if he was drunk, this would be good. This is drinking time, yeah. Except maybe he would be in this kind of, like, sentimental, mood if he got drunk. Yeah. And I think that this, this next clip is a really,

really huge bummer. But see, I knew stuff like this was evil. I'd still believe the propaganda and lies of abortion was legal and it was just a blob of tissue and it wasn't really a kid if he caught it in the first six weeks.

So there I was saying, no, I'm not going to be part of your sex orgy. Which I wasn't connecting with it. It was pedophilic because I was like 13, 14, 15. But technically it was. But when it came to killing my own kids, I was like, yeah, it's all right, $300.

And I never really pressured the girls. They were always like, I'm pregnant. It was one girl. Didn't tell me she was pregnant. And all of a sudden, her parents, she was a couple years older than me. She was like 16. I was like 14. She's like, oh, come into town and see my family here in Dallas.

She lived there with her parents. They had other family. She had an older sister with kids and stuff. You like kids? You like baby strollers? We'll take care of kids. I'm like, no, not yet. And they're like, see?

Look, her. And I know what's going on. And she had the abortion and got mad at me. You know, that's the thing. I didn't know about that until she had the abortion. Then they always hate you after they have it. I had this incredible girlfriend. When I was in college and I was celibate, I almost college a year.

I was celibate for about a year and a half. God really hit me and said, stop, you know, being part of this when I was 18. But then I got this other girlfriend. And I was wearing condoms and stuff, but somehow it broke, getting graphic here, which is just biology. And she was just ultra-gorgeous, Eastern European. And I saw her. And she was, I can't see anymore.

I just am too depressed, I'm too upset. And then she said, yeah, you got me pregnant. I had an abortion. I was just like, I'm so sorry. You should have told me we got married. Yeah, right. And she was like going to college. It was top of her class to be a doctor or all this other stuff.

Probably listening right now. But, and I was like, okay, that is it. I'm going back to no dating for a while. And that's how I got on the air and all the stuff I did. So God didn't tell Alex to stop having abortions when he was 18. He's been clear that he stopped because his dad threatened to kick him out of the house and told him to stop killing his grandkids. Bigger picture, this is fucked up. For one thing, it's gross.

Yep. But beyond that, it feels voyeuristic to listen to that clip. When Alex talks about this Eastern European woman who he loved, who he would have married and had kids with if she told him that she got pregnant, and he says that she's probably listening now, it feels like he needs to believe that she's listening. Yeah. I don't hear a guy who's apologetic about the abortions because of an actual opposition. to abortion, I hear a guy who blames abortion for ruining potentially better lives that he didn't get to live. He spent 30 years on air yelling about nothing and he's got two bad marriages to show for it,

but he only went down this road to begin with because he didn't start a family with these women. It's very telling that the two stories that he tells specifically involve abortions that he didn't have any input into, where he's trying to convey that he would have raised these children with these women if he'd had the shit, the chance. Yeah. The way he's telling this story, it seems very clear to me that he associates the pain of these abortions with losing the love of these women. He's not telling a pained story about killing kids.

The pathos comes from how these relationships with hotties ended prematurely because they got abortions and got mad at him. Yeah. I think this gives a nice window into how Trump's post has made Alex feel because that shit is sadder than any meltdown that he's capable of having. he's thinking about how he could have settled down with this gal that he got pregnant in junior college and then maybe maybe you know maybe it wouldn't be on the air maybe i'd be an electrician or that i'd have this gorgeous eastern european woman which is the way i constantly describe milania huh yeah there's no way there's no way to describe it other than like listen once you lose your fastball you got to go you're not you're not in the league you're not you're not

a knuckleballer. You're not going to find some junk. You've lost it. You got to go. Right. This is this is unlistenable. This is horrifying. Well, and it feels, it feels gross to listen to. It's not even that it's unlistenable. He's talking about condoms and lost love. Everything, everything about it. Dude, you're fighting the devil. Within the end and obviously, these are like the betrayal and loss of the women is the same as the betrayal and loss of How does he not even see the very clear, like, this is why my mind is going here. I'm being dumped again. Yeah.

I know that Trump said that Tucker should see a psychiatrist, but Alex should see at least a psychologist. Boy, he should see a team. Yeah. So I think that when you're going to have Roger Stone on, the day after Trump posts something like that, you can't be bringing this energy into it. No. You need to be coming in with momentum and steam. And unfortunately, he's just not.

And so I feel like he gives up while introducing Roger. Wow. Well, my old friend Roger Stone joins us, but really older friends with President Trump, 51 years. He knows the inside baseball. And I know he's upset with me about the 25th Amendment comment. I was trying to get Trump's attention when we know he was getting bad advice about the war. You have all the Israel lobby and others calling for nuclear war. We have new clips of it, Israeli officials.

And that statement about destroy a civilization forever. never to return. I'm glad Trump came off of that and said no nuclear weapons. And I really want this to succeed. I want Trump to succeed. And now that he's come out and attack me, you know, obviously it becomes a tit for tat. I want to think about the Democrats, the midterms, how we salvage this, but we have Mark Levin and others, so I know you love, Roger, that's a joke. Alex is apologizing to Roger and rationalizing in his introduction here. Roger's apparently mad about the 25th Amendment comments. And before they even start the interview, Alex is abandoning that by saying that he just wanted to get Trump's attention because the nuclear war stuff was bad.

But that doesn't explain why he brought it up again in his report from the car that Harrison played. This is nonsense. He's trying to pacify and appease Roger. Yep. He's lost the argument before they say word one. Yeah, that's, that's, I don't even know how to describe how sad this is. This is, this, I mean, honestly, this is the first time truly where I feel like, like, oh man, this whole world has failed, this poor boy.

That's what I feel. I feel like his birth was a failure. His mom failed him. His dad failed him. His entire life, everyone around him has fucking allowed this behavior to continue. And he's finally feeling the actual effects of it. And he's so unprepared. And it doesn't have to be like that.

No. No. The answer to this is the most obvious answer. 1776. Pure rage. Yep. Pure unending, unfiring rage. Ironically, the only thing he's good at.

Exactly. He should threaten to eat Trump. This is your moment. Yes. This is what you have been training for your entire life. Every yell. Every, you are my enemy. This is it.

The president is your enemy. You are a battle X. Oh, my God. Step up. So Alex tries to explain to Roger, like, I don't want to just take the bait. You know, like, what do we do? And I think if you listen carefully to what Roger is saying, how he's saying it, I believe that there's a second conversation that's happening subtly behind the surface.

And so I just wanted to get your take on all of this and tell you're good friends with Tucker and I as well. We find out many times at dinner together with Tucker, how we somehow extricate out of this. and somehow create kind of at least a truce or some kind of diplomacy. I was talking to Benny Johnson this morning. He's taking his four-year-old on birthday party days. He was getting off early. He's going to come on next week. He's trying to be an intermediary here, but also saying Mark Levin and that

you obviously banned from the White House because they confirmed lied to Trump. Weeks and weeks ago, I heard Susie Wiles was trying to stop the war, and that's down to be confirmed. So good on her. So it's just a really amazing time. I mean, I could build this up forever. There's so many places to go, so many things to do. But I'm really not trying to take debate and attack Trump just because I don't want to make it all about that.

But it's kind of hard to do, too, when he's, the very law firms that sued him, Paul Weiss and others are the ones that sued me. And they did it because I supported Trump. And then now he even uses their tactics against me. I wonder if Mark Levin wrote this horrible screen. So that's a lot to say, you know anywhere you want. I talk to you via text message. Yesterday, we haven't, you know, really scripted what we're going to get into. I know you're a little bit upset with me as well, so, you know, let me have it if you need to.

But Roger Stone, thanks for being here. Well, Alex, I'm delighted to be here, and you did promise me if I came on today, you'd let me talk. People need to know our history. We've been friends for a very long time. You and I met at the 50th anniversary of JFK's assassination down on Daly Plaza. Some time after that, you read my book, told me how much you enjoyed it and how informative it was, my book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ. As a Texan, you knew a lot of this history.

Then, as you know, I joined the Info Wars where Owen Schroier and I hosted the war room, and still until the name of that show was hijacked by Jeffrey Epstein accomplice and enabler Steve Bannon. I also credit you, frankly, and it's in my book that making the president 2016, because there's a lot of pressure on you to be for Ted Cruz as a fellow Texan. But after you met Donald Trump, by the way, called you when you got married, you may remember. You were going through TSA, but you took the call. I credit that with the fact that when the establishment Republicans were laughing at Donald Trump, you were exposing Trump and his policies to the millions of people in your audience. I think it is unfair to say you had nothing to do with his rise. You were with him in 2016.

You were with him in 2020. You were with him in 2024. And God knows you have paid a price for it. As have I. As has General Flynn. As has the January 6ers. And I think you played a crucial role in the exposure of Hillary Clinton. This is, and there have been times when both of us have had some criticism.

I love the man. I would not be alive for him today, but for him. And I candidly admit that because he knew that I was being squeezed, not because I did something wrong, but they destroyed my life. I lost my home, my car, my savings, my insurance, my ability to travel freely without being threatened in the streets, all because I wouldn't testify falsely against Donald Trump. So I want to translate this conversation a little bit. Alex is telling Roger that he's been humiliated by Trump, and he's asking Roger's permission to stop supporting Trump or at least get a truce going. Alex wants to separate his identity from Trump,

and Roger's response is to only deepen Alex's connection with Trump and stress how important Alex was in Trump's rise. In effect, Roger is, you know, kind of trying to... In for a penny and for a pound, buddy. He's stuck. He's telling him he's pot committed, but at the same time being like, and you're great.

You know, he's playing to his ego like Pachanek used to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing it right. Yeah. I believe that Roger is trying to subtly explain to Alex why he got a pardon and Alex got shit on in a tweet. Trump knows that Roger knows shit that he's not telling anyone. Roger had every opportunity to save himself by testifying honestly about Trump and he kept his mouth shut, which proved his ultimate loyalty. Roger and Trump know life-ruining stuff about each other, and that bond was tested through the court system.

where Roger showed Trump that even if they fight, he's not going to spill the beans, so Trump gave him a get-out-a-jail-free card. Yep. On the other hand, Alex doesn't know anything about Trump or Roger that matters. He doesn't know anything he could use against them that doesn't directly implicate himself, so Trump doesn't care about him. Alex doesn't exist for Trump in a transactional sense, whereas Roger does. To explain what I mean, the dirt that Roger and Trump have on each other are stories of separate crimes they committed.

Roger could talk about something he knows Trump did that has nothing to do with Roger and vice versa. Alex knows some stuff about Roger, but it's the kind of dirt where they committed a crime together. Alex can't really burn Roger without self-destructing, and they both know it. So they're sitting here in this weird space where he's like, come on, man, I don't want to do this anymore. I look like an idiot. You're in, man. I got a leash around you. Yep.

This is a bookie. This is a bookie. That's what's happening. you're in for 20 grand, buddy. Listen, you owe me that money. I'm going to get that money. But I'm going to tell you this. You're one of my favorite guys.

You are one of my favorite guys. So I'm going to do this one solid for you. I'm going to give you a pick. We're not even going to call it double or another. I'm just going to give you a pick. You pick anything you want. I'll give you, let's say, three to one odds. So what?

At the end of this, either you go home with 60K or, you know, we have another talk. How about that? Yeah. How about that, Trump? It's essentially like, let's make peace with where you are. Yep. You don't have any cards here. Nope.

Nope. I can break your knees whenever. Yeah. So, good times. I think one of the things that no one could really dispute too much is that Alex's take on the whole, we're going to wipe out your civilization tonight. Yeah. That tweet was bad. Yeah.

Alex's take on that was correct. Yes. What's Roger got to say? Well. I like to. hear this. But Alex, let's go through the war now because that's important, you see. Everybody was certain that he would be goaded into World War III, the Bushies, the Cheney's, the Laura Loomers, trying to goad him into World War III. He didn't do that, did he? I'm listening. He scared the

crap out of him is what he did. And they folded. He didn't fold. They folded. They're the ones who sent us a new peace proposal. That's called Peace Through Strength. Those are the policies of Eisenhower, Reagan and Donald Trump. Those are not the policies of the Bushes and the Cheneas and the and the Obama's and the Clinton's. So you're saying the total destruction of civilization

thing was basically just rhetoric. Well, but it's and I said this at the time. I thought I was pretty kind. It was irresponsible rhetoric. The idea that we would remove this president given this incredible record. And the important thing is, by the way, I am, I'm an

anti-interventionist just like you. The last, before Donald Trump, the last vote I cast in Republican presidential primary was for Ron Paul in the Florida primary. I don't like war. I don't like endless foreign war. But that's not what we have. What we have here is peace through strain. So when Alex asked like, do you think that was irresponsible rhetoric? He was talking about Trump's tweet. Yeah. But Rogers responding by saying that what Alex said was irresponsible. Yep. That tells you a lot. I could not be. happier. Here's what I love about Roger, right? I love the purity of it. There is never going to be a question. You don't understand this. You don't understand me. You have questions. You have things like, I suspect this. Nothing you say will ever affect me. My loyalty is so rock solid. I can make up jiu-jitsu for anything you have to say. Yeah. You are nothing. And I think even in 2015, Alex should have had every reason to understand that like, unless I'm a real bad dude who's willing to do real bad stuff and really wallow in it.

Yep. I should never talk to Roger Stone. No. This is going to be a situation where I'm in over my head immediately and he's always going to have the upper hand because he is a bad dude. He is, he is a pig. He eats shit with a smile. Oh, do you think it's wrong to do this? And nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.

Guess what? love it. I love it. Oh, oh, you don't want everybody to die. I don't care. And I'm an anti-intervention. Exactly. Yes. I love Ron Paul. So Alex is like, all right, fine. That post that Trump made where he said that my family knows that I'm stupid. That's got to be bad, right? Come on. It has to be. Don't you agree? Just be honest. This was not healthy for Trump to come out to attack everybody. Obviously, it only makes me bigger. It's almost to gift, but I don't want that. I need him to succeed. This is very destructive of the midterms to attack Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and some of the most other popular people saying we're low IQ idiots, while he is literally has Mark Levins sitting in his lap and Laura Lumer, you know, sitting on his shoulder like a, like a demonic parrot.

She wishes. First of all, if you read my book, Stone's rules with a great introduction by Tucker Carlson, you know, the only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about. Nice. So, Alex, yes, it just probably makes your brand bigger. But you need to get back on the Trump train fully. We could have Kamala Harris if you think that would have been preferable. I personally do not.

Roger, I get all of that. My point is that the war is extremely unpopular and also the inflation's exploding, just like all the economists said. And you know we had a narrow window. His economic plan was great. If we have inflation, which oil and gas and fertilizers is the base of, then that derails is a base of. then that derails his plan.

That's why Larry Fink thinks so happy. Larry Fink wants regime change. I think we recognize that. But I think this will be over faster than people think it will be. Better be. Better be. This is sad. You are, I mean, man, sometimes the psychodrama whenever Alex is just fucking out of his depth is crazy.

That he doesn't understand the purity of Roger Stone. I think, I think, you know, I'm going out on a limb here a little. I think now he kind of does. You think so? Well, this is, this conversation should do something for you. There are a couple moments in this conversation that feel like Alex is like, I can't talk about things that I know about you. Yeah.

I can't say this thing. I know that you'll fuck me if I do. Yep. And I, there's a, there's a feeling of like the veil lifted or whatever, whenever it was. Like, I don't think he's treating Roger. or like a straight up person anymore. Okay. Like I think he's seeing,

I think he's afraid of him. Oh, well, you should be. Yeah. I'm afraid of Roger Stone. Sure. I mean, I would be, I would be less afraid of him if he didn't know I was coming.

Yeah. Yeah. Trump pissed in Alex's face the night before, after Alex pretended to have a miracle happen on air about supporting Trump. Yeah.

And now Rogers on the next day telling him get back on the Trump train. You're weak. Yes. You are small. Putting up with this is... Nothing you do matters to me. Yep.

Oh, oh, does it sound bad? Will it ruin the midterms? No, he can do whatever the fuck he wants, and you'll say it's good. Yeah. You better believe it. And, you know, just as kind of like a last Hail Mary. Sure.

All right. Look. Yeah. I hate Mark Levin. Don't we all? He's to blame for everything. Why not? He's the one who's doing all this stuff.

He wrote the tweet that Trump put out. Absolutely. blame it on somebody else. So Roger, you hate Mark Levin, don't you? Gotta. Mark Levin, when I had Michael Savage on a few days ago, he reminded me. I remember the time. Mark Levin supported Michael Savage being banned for the UK because he criticized Muslims.

He supported you being put in jail. He was a never-Trumper? No, that's not fair. Mark Levin criticized me, accused me of using Nixonian tactics on behalf of Donald Trump. He was upset with me. I had to remind him if there was no Nixon, there would be no Israel today. Israel would not exist today,

but for Richard M. Nixon, saving him in the armed paper war. But I will say this. When I was being victimized, he stood as a lawyer, and he's a very smart guy. Don't think Mark Levin is a dumb guy just because we disagree with him.

He stood very tall against the weaponization against me and not the outrageousness against me. Well, I believe because it was your own case, but from my memory, he supported the censorship in general. He supported Ted Cruz and Lenny. He ultimately came over despite his reservations about me being a Nixonite. And by the way, I don't forget people who stood with me.

So one of the crunch was really there, despite the fact that I had many, many, many disagrees with him, disagreements with him. He did stand tall for me when I was fighting for my life and I don't forget that. But Alex, so did you. So did you. But also you should really recognize by me saying this that I like him more than you. He stood tall. You were weak. You were weak.

He stood tall. Please, Roger, help me demonize the enemy that I need to scapegoat for this stuff. No, he's a good man. You do not understand. You eat the shit that we give you and you smile about it. Now, show me a smile, honey. We don't really have much use for you anymore. We can toss you at any moment.

So they finish up their interview. And immediately Alex is like, man, everyone's going to say that I, just fucking glazed Trump. Yep. Great to be with you, Alex. Undefeated and still the champion. Thank you, brother. I know what the headlines will be by the influencers and talk show hosts that are just totally against Trump.

It'll be Jones, one day after being savage by Trump, glazes Trump. No, I'm trying to be balanced here. This episode isn't really Alex glazing Trump. That would actually be a little less embarrassing. Yeah. This is more like Alex impotently jangling around the chains attached to his arms and legs in a way. that it's clearly him not sincerely trying to escape, so it only reveals how trapped he is. Yeah.

He's given up on even the idea of escape. Why even bother to pretend? It's too much effort. Everyone knows who Trump is now, and everyone knows who Alex Jones is. He's the guy who blows up and yells at people. Brian Stelter talked about him a little bit, so Alex screamed about him for years and drunkenly prank called him when he was hanging out with Tucker. That's true.

He's petty, and he loves to fight. There's no reason that he's not burning Trump. And there's no reason he should be letting Roger pull this shit, except if he knows he has to. There's something that they know. Like maybe he told Roger something about how the business is set up or something. Something. Yeah.

Because there's just too much money. There's just too much money in the fight. So if you're deliberately choosing not all that money, there must be something else going on. And as much as it would be lovely to believe in some sort of ideology, I'm afraid I don't subscribe to them having any beliefs whatsoever. I have one possible theory that like I said, we'll get to at the end of this episode, that could explain some of this, but I don't think it's actually what's going on in the heart or mind.

But I do think that as the episode goes on, Alex starts to feel like, I need to explain or I need to come up with an excuse at least for like why I didn't punch Roger. But it's good that Roger is staying close to the president because he has a lot of influence to keep Tulsi in there and other people, believe me. And I get so much from Roger and others. Roger is just one of five people I've got very close to the president and talk to him who are very concerned. And, you know, give me a lot of intel that you hear about here on the show. So Roger is a very good agent for America and for freedom and we appreciate him. And so it's good to have a Trump acolyte on to be able to hear that. I'm not obviously going to crap all up with the president while we're having that discussion.

I want Trump to pull out of this and succeed. But that's not on the Trump train, off the Trump train. That's sit back just real politic. What can we still get that's good out of this guy? But it doesn't look good. And I'm the chronicler. This is ridiculous. Wolf. Kill me.

Yeah. Kill me before anything like that. Hey, look, I was talking to Roger. And, of course, I'm not going to be mean to the president during that. He's friends. Come on, man. I, uh, if, Jordan, your options are to live as a worm beneath the boot of Roger fucking stone or to just die.

I'm going with number two, buddy. Mm-hmm. Jesus Christ. So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just a real bummer where Alex, uh, plays a video that his son made about how great is. No, I don't know. Nope, we cannot do that. Not after this.

It's not after this. It's the equivalent of like, hey, my son made a macaroni picture of me as Superman. Yeah. I don't need this as, I don't need a point. memory while you fucking demonstrate your impotence. Yeah, it's very sad. Yeah. So I'm going to skip ahead to where Alex, he's done a little bit more of the show.

Uh-huh. And then he realizes like, I got to talk about some stuff. Yeah. I've got to do it. All right. Now, most people would imagine today to be tuned in to my show with Trump viciously attacking me yesterday with a bunch of baseless garbage that I would just be spending all day attacking him and just creating all the controversial statements I could to just stay in the news.

I don't care about getting in the news over some stupid quibble. Again, I have opened up my Google news alerts when your name's mentioned and there's been 36,000 articles in one day about me. Remember all that? Again, APs in 25,000. I don't think individual tweets count as articles. It'll say, you know, 25,000, just one AP article will be that. It was like every day, 10,000. 20,000, 18,000. Some days, 36,000. Every nightly news show. Remember, I'm the devil.

I'm hurting families of dead kids. All that garbage. There was 300 plus million off of charities saying I was victimizing the parent. Did none of it. No one pissed on their graves. No one came to their houses. No one did anything. It was just all made up.

Alex just defamed the families again, saying that all the things they said about him were made up. I'm not sure if anyone can prove that someone peed on a grave, but those parents also didn't claim that anyone did. They claimed that someone contacted them and said that he had peed on their kid's grave, and I'm sure that they can prove that. The bigger problem is that there are multiple parents who can demonstrably prove that people showed up to their house and stocked them, specifically Wolfgang Halbig, who Alex was promoting and fundraising for on his show. Like, if there was a functional system of, like, law, he should go to jail for that. Yep. He's directly doing the exact same thing that he's been bankrupted for.

Yeah, but you know, it was really nice to hear. It was really nice to read so many articles at the time where Alex admitted finally that he had wronged to the parents. It felt good. It felt good to read so many articles. Yep. Yep. So Alex, he thinks like, I don't need to, I don't need to attack back. I'm cool.

I'm fine. Out of your mind. It's not the. issue that he even attacked me. That's a side issue. It's that he is literally pushing Democrat Party talking points via Mark Levin. And we know it's Mark Levin because it's word for word. I mean, I knew when I saw it yesterday. But I'm not going to go ape and just start attacking Trump here. Now, I don't think having Rodger on saying nice things about him. It's going to make him be nice to me. I'm like, oh, please don't hurt me. For me personally, it's good to break away from Trump

because he's never helped me any of that. But because he was better for the country, the Democrats, I just took it. But just like I didn't care about all the. attacks i don't care about CNN playing clips to me and MSNBC what does that do nothing they have tiny audiences i hate being associated with them but i have to tell the truth so i i don't know if it's just because he said ape there

but yeah i feel like he's been domesticated that's a good way of putting it yeah he's been tamed in some way that like this is not this doesn't make sense nope you're holding on to something that is meaning in the face of meaningful attacks.

I mean, this is fucked up. This is fucked up. It is fucked up because I'm watching a man who has been kept in a cage for 10 years have the cage opened and have the guy say, leave, I want you gone. Get out of this cage. And he closes the cage door while he's still inside it. It is depressing.

It makes you think of, like, I don't know if this is true, but it's something I've heard. So I didn't fact check this. I don't know if it's accurate. Okay, okay. But people tell you that if you chain an elephant up to a tree, it doesn't know that it can like break the tree and just walk off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It just feels like it's chained to this tree and we'll stay there. Right. That's what Alex feels like. Feels very much like that. He could break this tree, but there must be something else. It's there. There's a psychological impediment or something that he knows Roger knows. Yeah.

And it's just sad. It's a bummer. He has a shock caller. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I genuinely, genuinely. Genuinely. I honestly want to help him right now.

I don't. I do. I do. I want to be like fucking. I listen. I can yell. Isn't this fascinating the way that our positions have even reversed? I used to want to help him.

I don't. See, here's the problem. Here's the problem. I don't like a man who's lost his ability to yell. that's a personal thing for me I just I would like to see him lose I would like to see him fail but I want to lose

I want to see him lose in a fight you know not like not like well I mean you were the three time state yelling chairman I have yelled I dreamed of one day finding a box of money I have yelled many a person down yeah so Alex was working out that morning really getting uh getting some curls

good call you know really uh and he decided I'm burning Trump fuck him good This morning, I had made the decision while I was lifting weights. You get blood pumping your brain. It's really working well. And hit the weights, do some aerobic moves. That's the workout we're doing this morning.

I was pouring sweat. Nice 80-minute workout. And I said, I'm just going to score church Trump to get him back on track. Only way to do is to go after him viciously. Because, I mean, look, the Democrats are infinitely more corrupt than him. and he wasn't really corrupt the first term. The insider trading now, all the kids of the cabin officials, it is just robbery town.

And I'm like, am I going to just sit here and wait for Todd Blanche to indict me for something? I don't just sit here and wait for Trump to attack me. I'm like, well, I need him to get back on track. I need him to turn things around. But I'm also sitting here like, I'm not your average bear. Like, I know a lot. And I know right where to hit everything. And you're like, well, you're responsible to do that.

Yeah, but it's like paltry compared to the big pitcher. And I mentioned a lot of it. But I don't want to overthink it. But I'm just telling Trump something right now. The globalist sued my family who wasn't involved with me and bankrupted them. I can take me being attacked. I've been through a lot of stuff. They think you're stupid.

And if I see any inkling, when Mark Levin, everybody's talking about me being deplatformed again, and you're calling for him by his arrest, if I see any of that, and it's not like I'm saying this so they leave me alone. I'm on the verge of it, but there's so much,

the Democrats are so much worse that I don't want to make my full-time show a war against Trump, but if you, here's the thing, you've already shed all over me, and if you try to rub it in, I just at that point,

I don't care anymore. So if you think, I've been coming after you, if you think that I'm trying to get clicks by attacking you so the Democrats that don't buy anything for me and don't like me,

want to put me in jail. If you think I've been on your ass, say one more thing. One more thing. Oh, say one more thing. And more lumen sending this. Say five or six thousand more things. When I've gone through hell back in your ass because you were the lesser two evils, then I'm going to show you how the cow like the cabbage. Do one more thing. You should be kissing my ass. But instead, you shed all over me and rub it in. Okay, okay. Yeah. So I think that after talking to Roger, Alex knew and knows.

He's not going anywhere. And that Trump doesn't give a shit about what he says. Not even a little bit. And I think that there's a little bit of freedom with that. Because I think that probably when they were talking, Roger is like, Trump isn't mad at you. He doesn't care. You don't exist. You're attacking you as a just.

He just does. Yeah. We don't even know why. Yeah. There's no why. There's just, he did. It's because most people back down to stuff like this. Yeah.

You know, like it works. Like Alex. It works like 90% of the time or whatever. So it's a good strategy. Just be a bully. Just be a bully. So I have to assume that Alex understood that and was like, well, okay. So if I say some shit, Trump's not even going to hear it.

He's not going to care. Whatever. I can save some face. and he's not going to respond. Right. So I can be like, I'm taking the high road, but you motherfucker, you say one more thing about my family. Oh my God. I will fucking work you.

One more thing. Yeah. And I think that this is his win-win. Because he gets to be like, all right, fuck you. You shit in my face. Don't rub it in. You know, all this. I care about the principles and saving America.

I'm not in this petty fight. Sure. He gets to do that. And then he also gets. to try and taunt Trump to say something else to keep the cycle going. Right. And I think that he knows that either way, it's the best way out of the situation. Because Trump and Roger don't care.

He can't hurt them. Yeah. And if Trump says nothing, pretending like I told him you say one more fucking thing. Yeah. If it's radio silence for another 10 years and it doesn't get mentioned by Trump, he can act like this scolding really worked. Yeah. And if Trump does say one more thing, then Alex is free to then do the blowup that we all want.

Right. He can go get that bottle of Tidos and make it work. He won't because this is his one. This because he'll say just one more thing that time. Sure. The thing about Samson. And this is what's very important about Samson, right? He got fucked.

He lost. He realized he lost. and then he was like I got to take this whole thing down he didn't go hey if you guys cut off my hair one more time I am going to write a very sternly worded letter

no he grabbed the whole fucking place and he brought it down around his ears because you can't fuck with me like that but that's why we still tell tales of that and not people who are Alex so we have one last clip and it's just him begging Trump to say something just say it to my face Jesus Christ

Go ahead. Say one more thing about me. Go ahead and attack me one more time. Hold me back. Hold me back. And you'll find out because I know where to hit you. Leave me alone. I don't want to be it in your Marlago, your tuxitos, a bunch of parents posing. I'm not looking for government contracts. I've never asked for anything. Ed Martin contacted me and said incredible evidence of the government attacking you. They had all the proof. The DOJ funding the lawsuits, ringing it all, and he's a great guy. And then, and then Todd Blanche kills it and then calls me a kook and says, I don't deserve to have my rights defended. And I'm in still the rights lawsuits. You know, that's fine. I didn't blame Trump. I just said, okay, I'll take it. But I will not take any more of your crap.

Oh. Did you take too much? Your betrayals, your narcissism, the open, kleptocratic, insider trading that is just wholesale in your administration. I've mentioned it but said, yeah, it's just part of the course now. But I'm not looking for a fight, but if you want one, you came to the right place. So I'm like a rattlesnake. They're not a really aggressive steaks. Water moccasons can after you and bite you.

Cobras come after you. I'm like, rattle snakes trying to get away. I'm like, hey, uh, hey, leave me alone. Hey, please don't step on me. God that really hurts. Please stop. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Oh, your daddy's over here.

Let me step on your mommy. Let me step on your kids. And I'm just like, all right. They think you're stupid. I'm like Darth Vader looking at her palpantine, looking like Skywalker. I'm like, all right. I'm going to politically throw you down the reactor shaft in two seconds. And just, hey, does Alex Jones bluff?

No, I don't. He bluffs. You think I'm intimidated by you, Trump, the president of the United States? He says intimidated. By your hit teams, all the rest of it. Whatever, man. You got God to deal with. I want to focus on the midterms, the Democrats.

I want to promote what you're doing. And I want to be left alone. But if you let Laura Loomer and that Israeli operatives sit there and chew on me, like I'm some chew toy, I'm done. Because you're an idiot. Two inches. Two inches. You think I've been attacking you for years.

Buddy, I've been trying to defend you for years. So, I'm going to tell you one more time. Do not cross. that line, leave me alone. You ought to kiss. Oh, oh, Jones would be on my side if I talk to him. I haven't tried to talk to you. I'll even return your phone calls, Trump. You know that.

I didn't take your invites. I don't want to be around what you're involved in, buddy. Like what? I think that during that segment, Alex definitely told them music cues. Yeah. Because it starts with no more Mr. Nice guy. Yeah. And goes out

with So be it. no more. Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely on-purpose choices. I had to get this off my chest and I wanted to be a little dramatic about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I applaud. Any kind of preparation is nice.

It is. It's better than, well, most of what he did. So because we're recording this on Saturday, I don't know what Alex's Saturday show is or if he even did one or what, but there's two ways that I think that this could be taken. Okay. One is he's desperately begging Trump to say something about him again so they can get the feud going and sell the pay-per-view. Maybe.

You know, like pro wrestling type hype. Sure. It's not good if you give it away on free television. Yep. You know, like you have to build to the big match. Yeah. And so maybe there's a part of it that is that, and that's what he's trying to do. But the other part is kind of just, I think the other possibility is he's trying to save face because he knows that Roger and Trump.

don't care. Yep. And this will be about it for him talking about this. No, I'm pretty sure I've talked about it before on the show, but the Facebook lady who worked for Facebook for 20 years and I read her dumb book. And like 15 different times, she was like, and that's when I knew I had to quit. And then she got fired. And that's why she wrote the book.

She would have stayed there. Right. She would have stayed there forever. It doesn't matter. They could do whatever they want to her. And then when they threw her aside, they didn't care. Right. They didn't care.

And then the best thing you can do is try and create some kind of heroics out of decisions you could have made, didn't make, should have made. And a lot of them, a lot of the times if you can, you pretend you did make them. Yeah. So Alex will probably be like, yeah, I couldn't go along with the Epstein stuff, just like Marjorie Taylor Greed. Yeah. It's important to, before you write a memoir, think about, am I the person who did stuff or am I the person who should have done stuff? and then got fired. And then if you're the latter, don't write it.

Yeah. Yeah. So I think that, you know, we come to the end of this little ride. And what a day. What a 24-hour period. This was a roller coaster. He had a miracle on air. Yep.

Dark Waters started singing. Yep. They had a battle X. Trump shit in his face. I... And then he and Harrison had the weeniest responses to it that you could imagine. The hype that you gave me, right, delivered, first off, but second, delivered in an unexpected way. I've gone everywhere emotionally.

I have gone all across this whole gamut in a way that I haven't in quite a while. It's been very easily unpredictable. And I think that it peaked a little early, you know, in terms of like the things that are delights. Yeah. And it ends kind of depressingly. And that kind of doesn't feel great. Well, I mean, it's supposed to end like that. This doesn't have a happy end.

No, that's true. This is more tragedy than... Yeah, we're not watching the meteoric phoenix appear from the ashes of Alex. We are watching a phoenix get shit on until it dies. Mm-hmm. Yep. So, I don't know. We'll see what happens on Saturday, but I think it's either going to be fucking amazing or boring as hell.

It's going to be so boring. It's one of the two, and history has shown me that it's often more boring. Yeah. But who knows? Get him a bottle. Somebody get him some wild turkey and let's go. Yeah. Let's have a good time.

So we'll see what happens. But until we find out, we have a website. Indeed we do. It's knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Leo. I'm Leo.

Medezy X. Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Who, yeah. And now here comes the sex robot. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex.

I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.