Knowledge Fight - #114: Piers Morgan Interview

Episode Date: January 1, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' very combative appearance with Piers Morgan from back in January of 2013. Both men are assholes, so just sit back and enjoy the last episode of 2017 as your hosts actively root against both participants in a "debate."

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Ah, hello. Hey. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm a fan. Oh boy. Tough times. Good start. Good start. I kind of forgot the process. I kind of forgot what I needed to do. You were so happy with messing around with the computer. You forgot about it. Well, I was playing the playlist from my laptop as opposed to from my phone and it threw me off entirely. I got you. And you're a very harsh disapproval of the Becky Lynch theme song. I'm not a huge fan. All right. We might have to go back to the drawing board. That might not stick around.

Hey, it gets me pumped. Hey, if it works for you, man, it's your playlist. I'm fine with it. This is Knowledge Fight. You're Dan. I'm your Jordan. This is a podcast where we like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That's pretty much what we do. Dan, it is for the last time in 2017. Yes. What is what the fuck is this show? I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. And today we were a bit hungover. Got got had a real nice time last night drinking some beers and some wine. Just hanging out until about 5am crashed on your couch. Yep. Might have argued about big fish. We did argue about big fish. I forgot about that. But anyway, not a good movie. But anyway,

here we are. Happy New Year to everybody. This will be coming out on, uh, on New Year's Eve. We're going to count it down at the end of the show. The best thing to do is play this, uh, play this podcast roughly. What do you think an hour and 45 minutes before midnight? Three and a half. Yeah. Um, so, uh, forget the show started today. I want to take a minute to thank a couple of our new donors. Oh shit. Uh, I'd like to thank everybody. We, uh, you know, if you, if you want to become a policy walk and go to our website, knowledge, fight.com, click the, uh, support the show button. As these two have done, we very much appreciate it. Thank you so much. And, uh, congratulations on becoming a policy wonk. Lewis.

I'm a policy wonk. Hey, Lewis. Thank you very much. Also. Thank you so much to Polly. We appreciate it. I'm a policy wonk. Congratulations on becoming a policy wonk. Thank you very kindly, so Jordan. Today we got an interesting, uh, road ahead of us. Okay. So, uh, on our last episode, uh, your standard entrance to when we start playing clips. Sure. This one's very interesting. It is. Cause we only have one clip. Okay. You did tell me that before the show and I still kind of don't believe you. Actually, I lied a little bit. We have two clips, but, uh, so on our last, uh, last sort of investigation episode that we did, we went back to 2014 in February and we, cause I was trying to trace the path of Alex Jones's, uh, take on the Ukraine, Russia

and Ukraine we found was kind of weird. Right. And so I kept looking, I kept digging and on, as you usually do, on the day after what we covered. So it would be like February 24th, I believe the entire show is about Piers Morgan years after he went on Piers Morgan's show. What? It's all, well, I think it's actually like a year after he just goes off on this like, fuck off Piers Morgan. You got fired. Suck it. It's just, So this is going to be an episode where we agree with Alex Jones wholeheartedly. To, to an extent, actually no, cause I didn't keep, I don't have clips of that episode. It's so boring. Oh, well, okay. It's just him gloating and being like, suck it, Piers. I win. I mean,

Piers Morgan does suck. Right. And he should suck it. I don't, I don't disagree with that entirely at all. But there wasn't much really to go on in this episode on the 24th. Like I said, it's just him gloating and being like, you got fired. You're a loser. I have millions of fans. But I did find this clip that I think is kind of interesting and sheds a little bit of light on Alex's self-made past and what have you. So here's the only clip that I have from February 24th. I never had a big time Warner AOL, $100 billion company to put me on air. I never had all that type of stuff. I had nothing. I think my dad loaned me like $20,000 over the first year when I first did my access show and then luckily got a local radio show. That's the

reality here. So yeah, I had nothing except a $20,000 loan. That was kind of it. You know, you know how everybody has access to $20,000 loans from their parents? He had nothing. He pulled himself up by his rich dad's bootstraps. And like we've said in the past, like just to be perfectly clear, I don't really think that there's anything super negative about getting help. And I don't think that Alex is wrong to have gotten help or anything like that. It's wrong for him not to recognize the position that he was lucky enough to be in. To claim you came from nothing is such bullshit. Yeah. Cause the amount of money your parents have to have if they can just drop 20 grand at a time on you is ridiculous. And as we know, he used to broadcast out of a property

that was owned by his dad, like an office building that his dad owned and his dad got him his first ad to get a radio show. So like all of these things and again, not wrong. No, stupid of him. No, stupid of him to pretend now. Right. Anyway, so like I said, it's all shooting on Piers Morgan. Like if he was an orphan, I would have been totally fine. Yeah. If he says he came from nothing and he had, you know, sure, sure. No parents. I'm on board. Then much more reasonable. Right. So there's one, there's one part that's really funny. And I don't, I was trying to find the clip and I can't find it. So I'll just explain it. There's a whole thing where he's like going on about how like they offered me every TV show in the world. They wanted me to do that Joe Rogan questions

everything before they gave it to Joe Rogan. They wanted me to host Jesse. That would have been a very strange show if it was Joe Rogan questions everything without hosted by Alex Jones. He was saying that they tried to give him the show that Jesse Ventura ended up doing the conspiracy theory show. Right. And I know for a fact that from 2008, I watched an episode where Alex has Jesse on when they're about to start filming for that show. And he's basically just like begging Jesse to be his cohost. He's like, please, you know, like, Hey, you know, how funny would it be if I was the cohost? Like that sort of thing. I wish I had, I'll dig them up. I'll find the clips. But for now, I just wanted to point out like he's, he's in like a real fucking like

on top of the world headspace on that episode. So I was listening to it. You know, he was almost Chandler Bing too. He was going to be in friends. It was also almost Joey Tribbiani. He's going to play both roles and Rachel. Uh, great haircut. Yeah. Can you imagine all the girls going around with the Alex cut? It would be wild. So I was listening to this episode where he's just complaining about Piers Morgan the whole time. And I agree with you. Like, yeah, Piers Morgan sucks. Piers Morgan go fuck himself. But one of the other things I realized is I don't know if I've ever listened to the entire Piers Morgan interview. Are we listening to the entire Piers Morgan interview? Oh yeah, we are. How long is it? 13 minutes. We're not going to listen to it in one

chunk or anything. Pause it. I got that. But I realized that most people, that would be a great episode if we just played that and then happy new year guys. And that was it. We just called it. It's one of these things where like it's stupid and you don't like Piers Morgan to begin with. Right. But at the same time you get to witness Alex Jones being a complete fuckhead. Like whatever you think about the person who's interviewing him, he is awful. He's an awful person. Yeah, I agree. And so whenever people are like, I've had, you know, people ask me if I would like to interview Alex. And it's things like this that we're going to be going over, which is why my answer is categorically no. No. I would never want to do it. No. Even if you

have a command of fact, he's never going to let you play the game that you want to play. No. So so this is from January 7th, 2013. Alex Jones went on to Piers Morgan's show and it made the rounds afterwards went viral. It was, he was still on the BBC at the time, right? I think it was CNN. He was on CNN. Yeah. Alex Jones. Wait, Piers Morgan was on CNN. That's awful. Yeah. The next day, Alex Jones went on his show and was like, man, we were being followed all around New York. There were people just gang stalking us. Of course. They had us sitting this, this dilapidated, run down, termite infested place. There was shit all over the bathroom walls. I don't know about that. On CNN. Yeah. Alex, I don't know, man. That's just, I mean, they're a ramshackle operation,

that CNN. They're really trying to put it together funding wise. It's like, it's all a facade. There's shit on the bathroom walls. And I'm not saying like it's stuff. It's poo. He's saying it's on the bathroom walls. It's a load of bullshit. And he creates like a really interesting sort of cover story of what his trip was like in order to, again, it's just mythologizing himself. Like I'm such a threat that they had to have gang stalkers follow me around talking into their sleeves. Like it's some kind of cartoon. Oh, it wasn't, it wasn't just like regular people stalking them. It was like the FBI. These guys think they're spies. One of them saw that I was looking at him and he just walked into a wall. All right. All right. He says that like three

times. I buy that. I buy that. It's a real important piece of his narrative that somebody walked into a wall because of him. Yeah. Because of his gaze. Okay. So I know this is, I feel like you're disinclined to enjoy this. I've never seen, I've never seen or heard it. So I'm on board. Have you, have you just heard the clip? I mean, because the big clip is Alex Jones screaming at him 1776 will commence again. If you try and take our guns. No, I did not know that. I've never seen this. Like when we started this podcast, I legitimately knew nothing about Alex Jones and I'm not allowed to look up Alex Jones. Otherwise that destroys the whole premise here. So it has to be something that you introduced to me. Otherwise I do not know anything about

Alex. Well, then I'm glad, I'm glad we're doing this because this is an important piece of his mythology. It's an important piece of his, his story. And it's really an instance of where he broke through a lot more than he had before. Okay. Like he gained a lot of notoriety, a lot of, a lot of prominence after this because he made a fucking ass of himself. Right. And so here we go. Gonna jump in and if you at any point want to pause, hit me with a high sign. Here we go. Piers Morgan and Alex Jones, both being dicks. Anyone who's watched this show over the past few weeks knows I've taken a pretty strong stand on guns in America. It's on a scale of notice as supporters of gun rights and it's led to a petition

on the White House official website, no less. It's entitled, I quote, deport British citizen Piers Morgan for attacking Second Amendment. Suck your own dick. No. Fuck you. Alex Jones did that. Alex Jones started a petition to try and get Piers Morgan, uh, deported. I, I just, I, Piers Morgan is sucking his own dick. No, he's, I believe he is. I think he's saying that as a, as a means of introducing Alex, like this guy went to the white house.gov and tried to get people the most impossible thing to do. Yeah. What took years of effort, years of training and preparation to get all the way to the White House.gov website and put a petition to, now I would have signed that petition. Had I

known about it? I think like a hundred thousand people or something signed it. It was ridiculous. Worth it. Worth it. Anyway. More than a hundred and four thousand people have signed it so far and joining me now is one of the people behind the petition, Alex Jones. He's host of the Alex Jones show. Welcome to you. Piers, thanks for having me. Why do you want to? Starts off polite. Starts off polite. Let's see how long he's, he's a fine Texan boy. Let's see how long it stays. I wanted to pull me. Well, we did it as a way to bring attention to the fact that we have all of these foreigners and

the Russian government, the official Chinese government, Mao said political power goes out of the barrel of a gun. He killed about 80 million people because he's the only guy that had the guns. So we did it to point out that this is globalism and the megabanks that control the planet and brag that they've taken over. Do they? In Bloomberg, AP Reuters, you name it, brag that they're going to get our guns as well. They've taken everybody's guns, but the Swiss and the American people. And when they get our guns, they can have their world tyranny while the government buys 1.6 billion bullets, armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, predator drones, armed, now in U.S. skies.

You know what? I don't really, I don't really object to too much of what he's saying right now. Say more about that because that's troubling. I mean, don't get me wrong. This is dovetailing. Nobody is going to take away his guns, but there is a good point to be made. I guess the militarization of police. Exactly. Well, certainly, but a lot of the things. Which is why we all need guns. So when the police come for your guns, you can gun them. Now you're making Alex's argument. You can gun them. When the police come for your guns, you can gun back at them. Jordan, you're starting 2018 full on malicious

sympathizer. Careful. Hey, all, all I'm saying is maybe tread lightly friend. Not the worst idea in the world. I don't know. I'm not, I'm not saying that I like the militias we have now, but if we, if we look, if progressives all got together and just bought a lot of guns, I think that would be fine. I think what you're describing at that point is a commune. I don't understand. It's not a militia at that point. Look, I've never admired David Koresh. Sure. That's what makes you and Alex different. Exactly. I would say that it's important to point out though there that the things that he's describing and the things that he's bringing up are pretty

specifically like Jade Helm adjacent narratives. So you have the like buying up of 1.6 billion bullets. Yeah. Yeah. All that stuff is just all, uh, it's his FEMA camp stuff. It's all that, it's all that, uh, but the Swiss are in there. So that's nice. I don't think I like that the Swiss get a shout out. I don't think that the Swiss and the Americans are the only people allowed to have guns. No, aren't the, aren't the most per capita guns like in Sweden or something like that? Probably. I don't know. Doesn't everybody like some, I can't remember most countries. There's a Nordic country where it's like everybody has a gun. Yeah. There are a lot of countries that allow you to have guns. Yeah. I would say most countries allow you to have guns. And just because a couple

of them have been remarkably successful in, uh, curtailing gun ownership and gun violence, right? Uh, that doesn't mean that there aren't countries that are still, you know, do what you want to do. Hey, get some guns. Yeah. Being used to arrest people in North Dakota. The second amendment isn't there for duck hunting. It's there to protect us from tyrannical government and street thugs. Take the women in India. Uh-oh. Your piece earlier I was watching during Anderson Cooper's show. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I don't recall part of the second amendment being about street thugs. I don't, I don't remember George Washington being like, we can't allow British people to be quartered. Right. And also

street thugs. Right. What? Huge issues. Little do you know that there is a provision in the second amendment about the knockout? There's a too many street thugs. I mean, to, to an extent, like your ability to protect your property and stuff like that. I get that the application that Alex would make there, but I mean, he's describing black people. I think this is, this is fairly close to Zimmerman. I think that there is code being employed. Certainly. Well, I mean, Alex Jones thinks that like George Zimmerman was railroaded. You know, there is like, he doesn't, I wish he had been hit on a railroad. He doesn't think that, uh, he does not agree with the mainstream perception of George Zimmerman. Do you mean he's a murderer?

Yeah. So, uh, Alex here is getting into the idea of the, there being a lot of rapes in India. And I, I, I very much wanted to pause it before, uh, before I had to hear that. So here we go. Jumping back in. Tell you that the women of India have signed giant petitions to get firearms because the police can't and won't protect them. The answer is, Hey, wait a minute. I have FBI crime statistics that come out a year late, 2011, 20 plus percent crime drop in the last nine years. Real violent crime because more guns means less crime. Not true. Took the guns 15, 16 years ago, tripling of your overall violent crime. Not true either. Well, yeah, that's, that's not accurate. And,

and what he's doing here is cherry picking statistics. As we know, much more in depth study was done by Stanford last year. Every place that has a lot of guns has a lot more crime. Yeah. There's an increase in violent crime, but it runs a parallel course. Cause everybody has guns. Right. Right. True. We have a higher gun violence level, but overall mugging, stabbing deaths. You, those men raped that woman in India to death with an iron rod four feet long. You can't ban the iron rods. The guns, the iron rods, beers, didn't do it. The tyrants did it. Hitler took the guns. Stalin took the guns. Mal took the guns. That El Castro took the guns. You go, show this, took the guns. And I'm here to tell you,

seven, three more, six will commence again. If you try to take our firearms, doesn't matter how many lemmings you get out there on the street, begging for them to have their guns taken, we will not relinquish them. Do you understand? That's why you're going to fail. And the establishment knows no matter how much propaganda, the Republic will rise again when you attempt to take our guns. So, you know, that's, that's really him working himself into a frenzy. The Republic will rise again. Right. If you try to take our guns. So the Republic, why isn't the Republic rising? Doesn't it, doesn't that seem like counterintuitive there? It requires somebody to take the guns before the Republic rises again.

That is an interesting wrinkle. What are they, what are we doing right now as far as the Republic goes? Are we like, Hey, as long as I got my guns, I don't care if this fucking Republic falls around my eyes. We're cool. I got guns. Just stroking a fucking shotgun all day. Well, I mean, it does speak to the, uh, the idea that I think Alex and a lot of people like him have that is the guns are the only thing that matters. It's what makes the Republic. Right. And so yeah, absolutely. But if they don't try and take the guns, the Republic is safe in their conception, which is not that doesn't make sense. No, that doesn't mean that's like saying the South will rise again. It's not going to happen. It's kind of what he is saying. It is what he's saying. As we know, his family did

fight for the South during the Civil War and in Confederate circles, he is royalty, which actually comes into play right about now. My family in the Texas revolution against Santa Anna, my family, do you mean when they stole both sides starting that my family was at the core of both sides starting that. What does that mean? The fuck does that mean? My family was the winner and the loser of the Santa Anna battle. What? My family started that war. Right. We had people over there saying you're going to fight those guys. We had people over there saying you gotta fight those. My family are agent provocateurs from the Texas revolution days. We have always been gun runners. I mean, nothing makes more money on guns than war. You know, you got, you got like my family who was

involved in the Texas revolution with Santa Anna. I'm related to Nathan Bedford forest. I'm related to the tutors. Right. It's just fucking. He was Cleopatra in a former life. Just doing role play at this point. Nonsense. He's lurping as Alex Jones. Yeah. Because Santa Anna came to take the guns at Gonzales, Texas. Pierce, don't try what your ancestors did before. Why don't you come to America? I'll take you out shooting. You can become an American and join the Republic. I would, I would point out that the show is taped in New York. So he's already in America. No, he's not in America. Oh, he can't become it. Wait, can you only become an American after you go to a fire range? Is that part of the citizen citizen tip test? Yeah, that's why it's,

I mean, it's such an important piece of the, the Republic that in order to be, uh, be a part of it. Yeah. And that's why I'm also counterintuitive there because he hates immigrants so much and doesn't want to have guns. Well, I mean, and that goes back to like the, uh, what he's, what he's positing, uh, earlier that we sort of, uh, skipped over a little bit is this idea of the, the women in India wanting guns. She's like, yeah, okay. I mean, they should be able to protect themselves. Absolutely. But the bigger issue is the people who are doing the rapes. It seems like rape is the larger issue over them having guns. Right. Right. But he doesn't, he doesn't really have a lot of interest in talking about that in the same way. Here's a thought. Right. Uh,

we only give women guns. Huh. Okay. Fine. I'm in. Let's move along. Let's do it. You finished? Yes, I am finished. You will not take my right. You go through background checks How about Prozac? You know the number one sponsor, isn't it? Or that whole class of drugs. Let me ask you a question. Oh, gotta cut that off, don't you? Don't want to talk about the U.S. number one cause of death is suicide now because they give people suicide mass murder pills. Calm down. Your answers give more money to the psychiatrists, psychologists who put more crazy people on drugs that make them kill people. Let's try and have a debate here. Why? I don't know. Why? Why? What were you thinking? You just heard his debate tactic,

which is you want to cut that off, don't you? Anytime you speak. And there's like constant instances of him like looking off camera, like as if for approval or like, uh, someone gonna tackle me. Are we on air? Do we get cut off? Right. My throat's starting to hurt. I don't want to waste these pipes for nothing. Um, so, uh, let's, uh, let's jump. Yeah. Answer me this question. I'm sick of this. It's fine, bud. How many gun murders were there in America last year? Do you know? There's such assholes, but it's one of the most remarkable things that you come away. I mean, I still don't like Pierce Morgan now, but listening to this, I'm, and it's not because I don't like Alex. I'm on his side cause he's just trying to calm down.

Yeah. Calm down. He's, he's, but that's the, why would you, uh, why would you have Alex Jones on your show if you don't know what Alex Jones is going to do on your show? To be fair, I think that is, I think he knew. Yeah. That's the whole reason they booked Alex Jones is for him to give them ratings and for millions of people to watch this shit and be like, look at this asshole. And it got like after Alex leaves and the next segment, uh, he has Alan Dershowitz on and they, that's a switch in energy right there. Yeah. That's a, that's a bipolar situation. And what they do, the two of them end up having a conversation about how like Alex Jones is a case and point for why people shouldn't have guns. And so there is a little bit of like,

I think they were trying to trap him a little, right, but at the same time you can see in Pierce Morgan's face, he's getting pissed. He is like, well, the, the amount of, what am I doing? Talking to a child, the amount of bile in the, uh, bud, right. Perfect. Right. The, the throwing the bud back at him is the correct, the correct amount of bile there. A spoiler alert. The, uh, the interview does end with Pierce Morgan saying, whatever. So you got that to look forward to. Okay. So he also, because we cut at the wrong moment, Pierce Morgan has just asked him how many gun murders there are in America every year. There were about 11,458 and about 74% of those were gang

related gangbangers shooting each other. You get three and a half to 4,000. How many people died from infections in hospitals? 197,000. That's right. How many gun murders were there in Britain? How many great white sharks killed people every year, but they're scared to swim. Right. How many gun murders were there in Britain? A very low amount. I already went over those statistics. You know, I was only a few hundred. No, no. How many gun murders? I actually, I actually did pull statistics here. Let me pull them out right here. I figured you'd do that. Alex Jones has like, that's a nice little dick move right there. I figured you'd prepare for this. I've never prepared for anything. Alex has like maybe six pieces of loose paper.

He's waving at Pierce Morgan. Like you see these FBI statistics. It's just nonsense. It's like, I almost couldn't write a funnier sketch than this, right? You know, in the sense of like Alex being like so performative, you can tell he doesn't, he's not sincere. The only arguments he has are deflections like, what about great white shark attacks? What about staff infections at hospitals? He's doing what about all day? Well, but at the same time, the logic doesn't hold because what about staff infections? Like, yes, there are regulations about cleaning hospitals. Like people, people work really hard to limit the, the infections that you can be exposed to in a hospital. Yeah. But what about, what about them? Well, they use the

logic, apply it to guns. You know, I don't understand. Necessitate regulations that they would mitigate the damages that are caused by no gun regulations. Dan, that's tyranny. And then you know what? I don't want any hospital regulations either. I think that's the main issue. If you come for our hospital infections, the Republic is going to rise again. That is, that is, I mean, that tracks. I agree. I agree. We need to ferment a revolution of people try and stop us from getting sick at hospitals or try and limit my access to great white sharks. That is a good idea. In the wild. Where would you like the regulations to stop with great white sharks? None. I wanted no regulations. I want to roll it back to the 1700s. Like zoos are

just going to be chaos. You can swim with them if you want. You're an adult. You're an American and you have a God given right. It's the 63rd amendment to swim with the 63rd amendment. We're adding a bunch. I don't think George Washington was, well, here's what I would suggest. George Washington, no street thugs. Don't even mention them. Knockout game was a problem. Great white sharks swim with sharks. Absolutely. You are not legally obligated, however, to house a British great white shark. No, no, no, no. Crime capital of Europe. London telegraph. Here, let me give you a simple question. Well, that's the oldest. Very loud. No, no, that's the oldest. To ask me some little factoid. I already said earlier, England has a lot lower

gun crime rate because you took all the guns. But you've got whores. Pierce is not doing a good job with this interview. But like I said, he's clearly thrown off. I think a little bit of it is intentional to use him as a prop later. I think that there is some of that. And God bless him for it. Because I mean, you know, when you have someone with Alex, it is probably the best tactic to just let him play himself. And then just hope that everyone who's watching can see through it and see like this guy is unhinged. He's crazy. And he doesn't actually know any of the statistics he's screaming. No, does Pierce do a lot of camera takes? There are a couple. There are some good camera takes. There are a couple like,

like, does he at any point, does he, does he at any point, Zach from saved by the ballot where he's like, okay, pause. And then, and then they go right back to it. Time out. No, I don't, he doesn't do enough mugging. I would have, I would have, if I, if this was a sketch that I was directing so much, I would tell him, ham it up. Alex, you're chewing just enough scenery. Pierce get a little smugger. Yeah. Bords of people burning down cities and beating old women's brains out every day. They arrest people in England if they defend themselves. That's on record. What record? That's on the, that's on Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. The jolly old queen comes out with a decree. You will be arrested if you defend yourself, especially if

you are an old lady. I'm almost listen every day. I want an old lady's brains beat out. This is the cost of not having guns and we love it. People burning down buildings and beating up old women. I will trade street thugs for dead old woman any day of the week. Kind of got to assume that street thugs are responsible for beating women, old women to death every day. It's other old women. It is. That could be Britain. This is one of the least advertised things about Britain. Constant old lady thunder domes. Constant old lady thunder. Well, it's like the hunger games, but you mix a movie, an old 80s movie about killing old people. It's that with hunger games mixed in. All right. Anyway, I think.

What? Scanners? Was scanners the movie that you were thinking about? I don't know. Blowing up old ladies heads with your mind. I don't know. I'm hungover, man. Let's just jump back into this fucking clip. My God, you have got a total police state. Everybody's fleeing that country because the oh, you had to flee here, bud. Why don't you tell folks? Yeah, you fled here. Why don't you go back and face the charges for the hacking scandal on some of this question? Oh, nicely done. You get fired from the Daily Mirror for putting out fake stories. You're a hatchet man of the New World Order. You're a hatchet man. I want to say this right here. You think you're a tough guy here? Well, have me back with a boxing ring in here and I'll wear

red, white and blue and you can wear your Jolly Roger. You know what? What world does Pierce Morgan think he's a tough guy? None. Morgan is the most aware of how much of a pussy Pierce Morgan is. Yeah, guys. It was Logan's run. Jesus. All right. But the, uh, the thing I love is that the way Alex presents it now is that Pierce Morgan wanted to beat him up. Whereas you can hear very clearly. He's like, Hey, how about I come back and we fight? Alex suggested that. Why? I don't know. Where would you even? It proves something. Does it? No. I do love the idea though of, uh, cause I don't know if you could hear it there, but what he ends up doing is like, Hey, how about you come back and, uh, we had a boxing ring. I'll wear an American flag. You are a Union

Jack and Pierce Morgan's response to that is okay. Just like he is. You were right. He's checked out in a lot of ways, but, but in a tremendous way. I really, I really like seeing this kind of misery on someone to do that. I don't like. Right. So let's try again. How many gun murders were there? Oh, you're going to ban your fists now? Britain last year. Uh, how many chimpanzees can dance on the head of a pen? I already went over those. Do you know the answer? No, I don't. You said hundreds. It's very low. You said hundreds. Yes. It's actually 35. Well, the point is you can get 11,000. Do you understand the difference between 11,000 England wants to ban knives now because tens of thousands are getting stabbed.

Yeah. Definitely don't engage with this point. That was a smart move on Alex Jones's part. And no one wants to ban knives. That's, that's a gross misrepresentation. Well, the chef's union actually does. What do they want to do? They want to use their hands. They want to tear food apart. I ask you this, sir, how are you going to put cream cheese on a bagel without knives? You just fucking grab some. Well, first you have to tear apart the bagel with your, and you also, the same thing has to be done with bread. You can't slice bread. Right. You have to have a giant sandwich just from one side to the other. Slather cream cheese with your hand all over it. Press it together and then shoot it with a gun for Christmas. My dad got

like Wolverine blades basically like for, cause he does a lot of grilling. There's a lot of barbecue smoking meats out in Texas. And so like, you know, it's cool cause you can just have these Wolverine claws that you can just punch into the meat and carry it like as opposed to having to, you know, and I would imagine those might. That's the first time I've ever wanted to be Wolverine right there. Those are legal. Pretty sure you can even have those in Britain. Anyway, let's move back in here. That is true. Wolverine is the only superhero I can think of who is totally street legal. What about Rogue? She's, she's like all of them are street legal. She's like a toxic Mary or whatever his name is. Anybody she touches dies, but that's not illegal. What do you mean?

It's not illegal to touch somebody and have them die. I don't think it's on the books. Yeah. I think, I think that we will have a drastically redefined definition of legal. If you try and take our rogues away, the Republic is going to rise again. But do you understand the difference? The knife doesn't kill people. The gun doesn't kill people. Yes. Listen, do you understand you're not going to pull on America's hard strings? They know your script. Okay. You're not going to get our guns. By the way, you guys always say we just want to take the semi-autos. Okay. And all this other stuff when semi-autos aren't even a rifle. Smell it. You can use it in a fraction of a punch. You can pull those numbers up. Okay.

Well, no, no, hold on. Which weapon was predominantly used in the Aurora movie theater shooting? M4 AR-15 variants. So it was a semi-automatic rifle. Yes. Again. Okay. But statistically, it's very, very low. Do you agree? Okay. All right. This, this is why Piers Morgan is doing such a bad job. I think he's trying. No, no, but he's not, he's, he had no idea or at least he has no idea what he's going up against. Right. Because the idea of just coming at Alex and saying, look at these two things is silly. Alex knows that there are two things and he's going to make it a million things. So any, any argument that Piers Morgan has is purely deluded by that bullshit. All you can do really to dance with him is like

prepare to deal with diversion. Yeah. You can't really get a central thesis. But at the same time, the point that he's making would be devastating if Alex engaged with it. Right. But he just not going to. Well, I mean, the, the issue that the issue with Piers Morgan's point is he's trying to build. He's trying to do this whole build thing. Like here's, here's the fact. Here's another fact which leads to this conclusion. And that's never going to happen. You can't build a house with Alex. No, you can't build an argument with Alex. What you have to do is get a boxing ring right and beat the shit out of relative flags. Make it a nationalistic boxing match for truth. Actually, and I don't think they, I don't think he should wear the union jack. The bridge don't

really feel that much about the flag. I think you should have to wear the queen. The actual queen. The actual queen. Also, I think like this is just fun because we, you know, on our last episode from 2014, we had the guy call in to be like, Hey, you said you wanted to box Piers Morgan. I'll box him. Yeah. Alex was super confused. Now we kind of have a little bit of a context for why that was the case. Anyway, here we go. It's the single biggest shooting in the history of America in terms of people. We top that shit. Do you know that? No, I believe that there were others about over 30. Alex is legit just denying reality at this point. Like he's just like, this is statistically true as of 2014, right? In terms

of shootings. And Alex is like, No. Yeah, but that's not, that's, that's not even unique anymore. Like now any interview, again, any interview with one of those people, one of the hard right people is always going to be like, yeah, no, Alex was ahead of the game. No, no, this was the single biggest mass shooting. Listen, you're just going, no, I've been bombings of Wall Street. Let me ask you a second. Are we going to, listen, why can't the fire? Are we going to be in bombs? You've had a lot to say. No, my point is the second amendment is sacrosanct and you're not getting it. Not the first. Do you know which weapon was used in the Oregon shopping mall mass shooting recently? I understand that people

who are mentally ill on all the serotonry. I'm taking inhibitors to play these shoot them up games. I want to go out and do this because there's video. I don't lose my rights because there's criminals. I don't lose my rights. Answer the question. He's not going to, but that's, I mean, in as much as Alex sometimes makes a fair point. I agree. Generally speaking with the idea that just because there's criminals, you don't get punished for it. Right. Now at the same time, your rights are contingent on living in a society and if a society decides one way it wants to operate and that goes against what you would prefer to do. Sorry. If Alex wanted to make that argument about, about like the NSA and the Patriot act, that's a solid argument. The idea that

because we have terrorists, we're going to remove people's rights to privacy. Right. I agree with that argument. Right. The idea that just because there are criminals with semi automatic weapons doesn't mean we shouldn't all have semi automatic weapons. Well, and it's stupid to blame video games. First of all, always. Cause I mean, I like, like, you know, I've been playing Skyrim and I can't tell you how many people I've cut down with a flaming sword in real life. Well, I have just been, and I've learned magic. What's crazy. Yeah. Flaming swords are banned. Oh, no. Can't have them in the UK. No. Can't have them in the UK. No. Um, and then they're, they're flaming sword deaths drastically reduced. We go over this point at nauseam, but the idea that he's blaming

serotonin reuptake inhibitors and, and like, you know, psychoactive drugs is a dangerous precedent to set because without them, you would see much more violent crime, most likely. People unmedicated who need medications. Yeah. Well, that's the issue. It's all, it always winds up being the opposite of that. Yeah. If they had some sort of access to medication, maybe we'd have a different conversation about that. And a lot of the times I don't know. I don't know the full statistics on it, but generally speaking, a lot of the time when you see people who are on psychoactive medication, serotonin reuptake inhibitors and what have you SSRIs, what you, what you see the people who commit suicide generally have fallen off the

medication. Right. So now that's, that's, and that's another good question to have is, or another good argument to have is, you know, how effective are they? Are withdrawals worse than, you know, there's that whole conversation to be had there. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what the weapon use was? Listen, let me ask you a question. No, no, I've got the FBI statistics that listen, that the so-called seminars that you talk about. Let me come back. Again, you're not going to get the guns. When we come back, try and answer my question. Yeah. All you're going to do is sit there and play little factoid questions. Overall crimes gone over 20%. So they go out to commercial with him, just yelling. And then Alex, the moment he realizes

there at commercial, he's like, Piers, we're doing a great job. We nailed it, buddy. We're crushing this. Yeah. Like that British shower. Yeah. All right. We did good here. So, you know, I take issue with the idea of reality and statistics being referred to as factoids. In a dismissive way, because what Piers Morgan is doing, like you said, which is a loser's strategy in this case, he's laying out like building blocks of an argument using statistics, studies, facts, and Alex is dismissing them out of hand just by being, oh yeah, you have this crime statistic. That's a factoid. And I have my own crime statistics. So what are we doing? We're just going back and forth with stats on each other. Right. Now, like an old married couple

that's lost what they have to talk about. They just don't talk anymore. And so it's just like, did you know that 90% of horses can't sleep? Bitch, stop with the factoid. So they come back from commercial and I'm shocked he didn't just kick him off during the break. Right. But he had a line producers like this is gold. Right. Right. We're getting ratings. Yeah, baby. Right. Now, with Alex Jones, the man says I should be deported for my stand on guns. So Alex, here's how this is going to work. And it's entirely down to you. I'm going to ask you some questions. This is not peers. You already lost. This is you already lost. This is not a good strategy for Alex or to deal with Alex like you never like with someone

who has such an oppositional defiant stance in life. You don't approach them with like, here's the deal. Here's what we're going to do. Yeah. Now granted, I mean, Pierce Morgan is the host of the show. Right. Alex is supposed to be doing that. Yeah. And Alex is not really respecting the social contract to a certain extent. Wait, what? And you know, it's you just can't. What's fascinating about this is this is exactly like whenever he plays a video on a show where he's like, no, no, no, no, pause this. We're going to have to restart this. I can't handle this piece of shit talking the whole time. Here's go back 30 seconds. Yeah, exactly. What you just said, he would, he if he could, he would totally do that. Yeah. In the spirit of a proper

debate, and you've had a lot to say so far on the show, and a lot of it is fine. But I want you to try and answer the questions. It's a proper debate. Okay. I'm not trying to trip you up. It's not a debate. You're running the show. You're bringing your victims up. Look, you got your little note card. He's mad that Pierce Morgan has no cards. You're hosting the show. You're bringing out little prepared note cards like some sort of idiots. Why don't you have handwritten notebook sheets? Right, right, right. What the fuck? I mean, I know Alex is obsessed with the idea of like being off teleprompters and stuff like that. And like, I don't know why he's so triggered by the idea that he has note cards or whatever. It's the difference between a professional operation and what he does.

Right. Where it's just extemporaneous nonsense off the top of the head. It's weird. I mean, we don't have note cards. What just happened there is he switched from Pierce. Pierce switched from being like sarcastic and biting to being condescending. Right. And immediately like, no matter how little nationalist you are, there's something American about hating a guy, a British guy condescending to you. There's something quintessentially built into America. Like once Pierce did that, I was like, go get him, Alex. Like, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. You're gonna be very satisfied by what I knew. I knew. Yeah. I just gave you FBI statistics that violent crime and gun crime is down over 20%.

And you want to go to little fact toys. No, anybody can pull those up. Listen. Do you have a bodyguard? Why do you have bodyguards? I don't have a bodyguard. Yeah, I've seen you on the news with them. Why would you have bodyguards on the news? I don't know. Wait, are there bodyguards in the, in the show? Oh, there's so many of them because they're probably should be. There's so many bodyguards on his set. If I had Alex Jones anywhere near me, I'd be like, oh, I could use a bodyguard. Well, I mean, this goes to his stupid narrative that he has about like, yeah, if you hate guns, the whitey, well, you're trying to take away our guns. Why do you have a bodyguard? Right. And I would suggest that, I mean, I don't know if Pierce Morgan has bodyguards, but I would

assume a lot of them are security guards for CNN or, uh, you know, business. Like, I don't know if they're his bodyguards per se or anything like that. And it's a dumb argument. Yes. It's a very dumb argument. Very, very dumb argument. Cause people who are security guards are generally licensed, you know, that's a good point though. Often they're off hours cops. If we do get rid of guns, maybe we won't need bodyguards. We're not creating jobs anymore. Tell that to the old ladies in England. They need bodyguards. What we should have is old lady bodyguards. Certainly. Certainly. Create a robust economy around old ladies. Put them to work. Put them to work. Right. This is a retirement age nonsense. Get out there and protect us. All right. Don't you want to protect your

wife from hoodlums or you want to call the police? Why does Diane Feinstein till 60 minutes that she plans to try to take Mr. and Mrs. America's guns? Stop talking over me. You guys want to disarm all of America. I don't. Diane Feinstein will does gun confiscation. No, let me clarify for you. You don't seem to understand what I want. First you register, then you confiscate. It's always done the same. It is always done. Well, here, give me your little cue cards and I'll answer your questions for you. What is the weapon used at Sandy Hook? I've already gone over that and already answered it for you. We haven't talked about Sandy Hook. No. Again. What was the weapon? It's a 223M4. Again. I don't like that. They're using very low percentage of shooting period.

But you guys, people wouldn't go swimming because the movie Jaws, even though Great White Shark killed five people a year. Great point, Alex. You nailed it. The rhetoric that... Do you know what kind of shark was used in Jaws? An M322 White? The rhetoric that Pierce Morgan is trying to employ is beating back against Alex's argument that semi-automatic weapons aren't used frequently in shootings. He's trying to bring up the large shootings generally are automatic weapons, or semi-automatic weapons, which undercuts the argument that most shootings aren't done by those. Of course, most people use handguns, what have you, statistically. But those are, you know, you end up killing one person as opposed to 30 or whatever. It's hard to

kill people with handguns. I think it's not that hard. It's pretty hard. I've never tried. But... Like, you can't, like, there's, you know, they tell you to shoot center mass and all of that shit. Isn't that how they train cops? No idea. They say center mass. I just heard center mass somewhere and I was pretty excited to use it. It's pretty stoked about that. Proud of you. But no, you can survive a lot of gunshots. Yeah. A surprising number of gunshots you can survive. True. Yeah. Yeah. And then all the ideas of like shooting you back, you fly backwards, nonsense. But the that is it may. I think more often than not, you'd find like people get lucky. Yeah. I don't, I don't know, man. I don't care. That's not important. Really.

No, it's not the point. The point that Pierce Morgan's trying to make. And he even says, do you understand what I'm getting at? And that is that these large scale tragedies are the ones that always seem to use automatic weapons, semi-automatic weapons. And that's the reason that there is an issue. And that's the reason why people. The problem with what Pierce is doing is that he needs to have realized by now that, yes, Alex does understand what he's getting at. Totally. Which is why he's doing this. Yes. What are you thinking, Pierce? He understands what he's getting at. And that's why he won't engage. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex, you're trying to scare people. Let me say something. There's no metal shark in the water. The same type of weapon

was used in the last. Hitler used semi-autos to kill people. Why would you? Why would you? Why is the government against this? I don't know. What about Fast and Furious? Alex. Why do our government shipments into Mexico? Alex. To blame the Second Amendment. Let's have a debate. A false flag. Alex. I get accused. I get accused when I get you guys on of talking over you of being rude. I'm trying to be civil, right? You've got to try and answer some of the questions, right? Here's my issue for you. Why do people need civilians, need an AR-15 type assault rifle? They already said statistically they're using very low amount of the crimes. That's an FBI faction. They've been using the last three mass shootings. Yes. I'll tell you why. Because they

advertise it in the media. Anybody knows that if somebody jumps off the Empire State Building, they put cops up there the next day because copycats come to do it again. The media hypes and hypes and hypes. Don't just commit suicide. Why do people need this? Don't commit suicide by killing a bunch of kids. And here's the gun to use because it's the one the U.S. Army uses. So that argument is a long walk, I believe, towards explaining what is at play in society. If you don't understand it, I'll lay it out as best I can. From what I got there, his point is that because the media sensationalizes these mass shootings and makes them such a huge story, that means that copycats are arising because of this awareness of that. And to some extent,

the media is doing that intentionally in order to create these sort of incidents. Which would be apparently does shit. Yeah, but it's also a fairly interesting argument there is because, yes, the media does tend to benefit from these types of things in the same way that gun manufacturers tend to benefit from these types of things. Right, man. I mean, this is a philosophical cultural idea that was thoroughly explored in the Edward Burns movie 15 minutes. And we can move past it there. I mean, I just don't think that there's much credence to that argument as being like explanatory. There's someone in the chat room saying that we are very ignorant about guns. And that may very well be the case. I copped to that. Yeah. And

look, I grew up in central Missouri. I had a lot of friends who have guns. I know enough about them to have an opinion. Right. Beyond that, sure. I don't know the finer points of gun laws in various states. I don't. And I admit that. Yeah, whatever. I don't know if that's important. But I don't necessarily think that a clear understanding of how guns work and that kind of thing is necessary to saying that assault assault rifles are probably not something that's necessary for people to have. Yes, I agree. Anyway, people need them. They need them to protect us from the number one killer in history. Government, the 20th century University of Hawaii killed 292 million people. It's called Demoside. Google it, folks. Do you believe everyone in America?

Should everyone in America, therefore, have an AR-15 if they want one? Statistically, where there's more guns, there's lower crime. The highest crime is in Bloomberg, you know. But you have the most guns of any of the 23 richest countries in the world. And you have 12,000. Well, America was born on guns and whiskey. Right. And slaves. Yeah. Just to, like, be perfectly clear, I don't have a problem with people having guns. No. I want to make that abundantly clear. Less anyone. I do. You're a little bit out there, though. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I don't even, I don't think the military should have AR-15s. I think I think it's a bad idea. Now that is an interesting can of worms. You should be allowed to have a musket,

and that's as good as you can do. Fair. One shot, and then you've got to spend 15 minutes going to town. It's true we're a violent society. Right. Statistically, knives kill three times more. Have you seen the FBI numbers? Knives, bats, rocks. Great movie, the FBI number. Many, many times more. Let's talk about the guns. It's not the rock. It's not the knife. Great movie, the rock. Chops your kids up with a cleaver, because she's on Senate Town Arena. Tell me why I'm wrong. Why don't you want to get rid of the drugs? Because they're half your sponsors? Stick to the subject. America's number one cause of unnatural death now is suicide. Not, not automobile accident, not cancer, none.

You excuse me if it's heart-seconding disease. I thought it was heart-seconding member of the Constitution. I want to get people off pills that the usurt says we don't need to commit suicide and kill people. All right. All right. I think, I think we got it. I think we got it, Alex. So the, the, that idea goes back to a lot of his anti-vax ideas and stuff like that with like the inserts say it's going to do all that. It's like, that's a potential side effect, dude. Like that's just how medicine works. People's biologies are all different and people have different responses to various inputs. That's just, just how it goes. The, I wonder, I wonder what it would be like if

peers was willing to just fly with him, you know, just like roll with the punches. Don't stick, don't stick in one debate area where like, we're talking about guns. No, whenever Alex starts coming at you with pills or an issue, you'd just be like, the opioid crisis is a big deal too. Do you think that we should legalize drugs? And then he'd be like, yes. And then the show would end. Everything would be fine. Everyone would go home happy. I'm not sure. I'm not sure everybody in the audience would get a free AR-15. Yeah, absolutely. Look under your chairs. That's Oprah. That's Oprah. Yeah. All right. All right. Thanks. Let's get about to the second one. I want to blow the real culprit, Alex. Suicide pills, mass murder pills. Okay. Let me ask you one question.

You'll believe it. That's your favorite. First time anybody's ever heard this, by the way. You'll believe that something is wrong is that under the second amendment, your real concern is that you will be overrun by a tyrannical regime, either from somewhere else. Yeah. Checkpoints. Look at Mexico. Total gunman to the citizens. Highest crime rate in the world. 57,000 people dead the last five years. Maybe we should legalize drugs. Total gunman for the citizens. Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in Europe. Your country has the highest. Alex, we have 35 gun murders. You have 11,000. People get their brains. It's the higher crime rate. Violent crime is higher.

On this specific. It's brains. It's people. I'm sorry. Alex has this whole mentality that where there are, like he's misattributing correlation and causation with the idea that there are more guns now and the crime rates are going down. Right. He assumes that they must be linked. Right. And that's just not the case. And it doesn't make any sense. No. And especially you see, like there was an article I was reading the other day about how New York has hit like a 50 year low in terms of crime. And, you know, that's a liberal city. It's because there's too many street thugs. They all moved out. Right. It's like the opposite of white flight.

The street thugs all went over to the suburbs. That'd be fun. Right. Let's ship street thugs out to the suburbs. Fine. Anyway. Trying to get inside your brains. If you punch me right now, it'd be not your fist, but your brain. Let me get inside your brain. Okay. I'm serious. You have a very, very big platform. You air I think on 63 networks. No, no, that Wikipedia is like 10 years old. I'm on over 140 stations. Millions of Americans pay you over a million. There we go. That's the stuff. Get a plug in there. Yeah. Talk about them pills, Alex. Get that in there. So now here's where we get to the dismount of the interview. We're coming towards the end. This is when Pierce really brings it home and he

does the nice little gymnastics. Kind of like boy. Yeah, boy. I'll tell you it. Okay. No. We have the statistics posted right now info wars.com. Who do you believe was behind 9 11? Oh, I absolutely know. I have the police on CNN saying get back. They're going to blow up seven. I have BBC reporting. Do you believe I have the proof that I heard them on CBS radio. Alex. They announced they blew up the towers on CBS radio. New Yorkers all saw it and heard it. Alex. Who do you believe? They blew up building sevens. Who do you believe was behind it? The American government. Criminal elements of the military industrial complex. The same ones that staged Gulf of Tonkin. The same ones that staged operation. The mass shootings of Operation Gladio. Right.

I like the way he said that. Operation Gladio. His administration was behind 9 11. I mean that even mainstream news reported that the hijackers were ordered to be allowed into the United States. Michael Springman, the head of the VC department, blew the whistle on that. So the Bush administration was part of a conspiracy. Well, he should never let us to murder thousands of Americans. I can speak in this accent as well. There you go, Alex. To bring in martial law in Germany, April 27th, 1933. Governments have staged terror attacks throughout history or allowed terrorists to attack as a pretext to invade and enslave the populations. I probably own more than 50 firearms. Many of

them have increased in value two, three, or even four times. I sleep very comfortably outside Austin, Texas, knowing that I can defend my family. Okay, Alex Jones. This is the man who wants to deport me from the country for wanting to get rid of assault rights. It's the point out you're a foreigner, a red-cold foreigner. You're telling us what to do. Whatever. Go back to where they took the guns and don't like it. The communists. So that's where it ends. They go out to commercial and this interview is done. Whatever. Yeah. So I don't know what we achieved here, but it's interesting. I was pretty funny. I enjoyed it. It's interesting to me because there is a little bit of that Alex Jones being a complete asshole in a sort of funny way. Did not see the British

accent coming. You didn't. I did not see that coming. There was a horn on that. Now that's, that's again, my problem or my fault because I already made the comparison to him watching one of those clips on his own show and interrupting that always does an accent right. Always does the mocking accent. I should have seen that one coming. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So I don't know. It's interesting that the way Alex presents this in his own mythologizing of his past is that, you know, he goes in there and he slayed the beast that is Pierce Morgan and destroyed his ratings and showed him to be the globalist shill that he is. Right. And then Pierce Morgan wanted to fight him because he couldn't handle Alex Jones's brilliance. Right.

But in reality, when we look at it, he's just being a what aboutist asshole and bringing up unrelated information in order to dodge points. And he's the one who wants to fight Pierce Morgan. So the reality does not really match up with his mythology. No. And it's fun. Anyway, 10, 9, not going to count down. This brings us to the end of the year here, 2017. And I want to thank everybody for coming along with us. It's been interesting. I agree. Sure. I would say so. Hopefully 2018 even more interesting. And we will, we will see. But for now, if you want to check us out, do you want to make a prediction about what about 2018? Give me one, give me one prediction. That's what that's what people are supposed to do in media type things at the end

of the year. You're supposed to be like, well, we've learned this so we can predict this. So what do you got? Max coins will be the preferred currency in America. I don't think Max coins are going to Max Kaiser will be an economy master or something. That would be an interesting cryptocurrency is getting really huge. Why not? Why not throw a little max coin in there? Head your bets. Imagine if you had gotten in on the ground floor of Bitcoin, right? You'd be a billionaire right now until next week or whatever. And then you'd be a billionaire again a week later. Most likely the stock market is great. Quite a, quite a roller coaster. Right. I don't know, man. I don't have any predictions. I can't see anything coming anymore. Everything is off and

everything is weird. Everything's chaos. Yeah. That's my prediction. Okay. Let's let's go. Let's go odds. Okay. Okay. What do you think the midterms are going to wind up looking like? The sense that I get, I think a lot of the polling is showing that things are wildly competitive. I think Democrats probably take a lot of seats. You think so? I think at least enough to flip things. Maybe. I don't know. That's a lot of the things I'm seeing. But at the same time, I don't fucking know. Is it possible for the Democrats to get a super majority two thirds vote in the Senate? I'm not entirely sure on that. But I don't know, man. We can't make any of these predictions. No, of course not. We don't know enough. And it's far

enough away that like, I don't know what kind of smear campaigns people like Chuck Johnson and Sernovich are going to try and float. It's anything could happen. I didn't think it would be close with Roy Moore. It was fucking close as shit. Yeah. I can't predict anything anymore. I have no idea. Well, my suspicion is, or my prediction is this, straight white dudes still going to be awful. I think that's probably, I mean, if history is prelude, it looks like that is a good prediction. Just looking at the statistics of the Roy Moore vote, especially when you factor in straight white dudes, 70% of straight white dudes, something like that voted for or not straight white dudes, just white dudes. Although we can assume if you're a Republican, chances

are you're a straight white dude. I'm hearing from the chat room that a super majority is not possible. Damn it. Yeah. But be that as it may. That would have been nice. It would have been nice to be able to override vetoes. So is that your only prediction? My only prediction is white people are not going to learn. They're not going to be like, Hey, we fixed it. White people are still going to vote Republican. Yeah. That's something I think is going to maintain, which unfortunately means I think we need to commit white genocide. My prediction for 2018 is white genocide. Not on board. We're going to rise up. If you kill our white people, the Republic will rise again. I think that another prediction is no one's going to take anyone's guns.

No, that's definitely not going to happen. That's a prediction I'm willing to make. I think we should personally take people. Oh, I have another prediction. What's that? People will start going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com. Got a plug in there. Infowars.com. No. Yeah. You can go to the website. You can click support the show. Sure. If you'd like to become a policy walk, also you can go to follow us on Twitter, knowledge underscore fight. Did you just say that? No. Okay. We're also on Facebook. We are. We're on iTunes. We're trying to, I'm exploring a couple other podcast distribution things. Yeah. I've gotten, I've gotten a couple emails from people who have like

androids and stuff like that. So you can't, you can't get us on Android. I think, I don't know, man. You have to get a separate podcast app. Yeah. I bet that's the case. So I found something interesting. I loved that. That was a great prediction. On, Infowars on the Alex Jones show on December, or not December, on January 7th, 2013, the day that Alex is in New York for the, to tape what we just listened to. Guess what? Fucking John Rappaport was co-hosting along with a fill-in host. Yeah. Alex had a fill-in host who was a little crazy. I can't remember his name, but he's not around anymore. But John Rappaport, Sons beard in 2013. It was upsetting. It didn't take a long time for him

to grow the weird beard that he has right now. Might be three years running at this point. That's a very quick turnaround for beard. The other thing, I checked it out and this past Thursday, John Rappaport was in the fourth hour. Let's do the fourth hour. All right. Get this. Picture was hung. No. Okay. Unclear. However, he was not talking about HIV denialism. He was not talking about vaccines. Okay. You know what he was talking about? Tom DeLong. What was his take on Tom DeLong? He's saying that UFOs are a false flag. I'm in. Right. Oh, that's right. I forgot about UFOs. They're real. Apparently. Okay. But he's saying that it, all this is nonsense in order to make people scared

of space diseases. In order to sell space vaccine. And there's one thing that I was thrilled to, I was listening to it. I'm like, hot take. But then also I got to hear John Rappaport say, Jim Semi-Van made me pretty happy. There you go. Yes. Semi-Van. The only good thing to happen in 2017. And it's so weird to have this like, you know, there are sort of spiritual connections between project candlelight. I'm sorry. Clean shaven. Like no beard at all. Upsetting. Not setting to look at. Weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's strange. Very much so. Yeah. You know what, without a beard, it's much easier for me just to look at him and say, John Rappaport, go fuck yourself. Happy new year, y'all. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding.

So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.