Knowledge Fight - #123: March 18, 2008

Episode Date: January 26, 2018

Today, Dan explains to Jordan why the present is no longer worth exploring as it relates to Alex Jones. Thus, the gents dive deep back into the past to see what Alex was doing about a decade ago. Spoiler alert: he was lying and enjoying really good country jams.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I forgot to turn on our mics. Fuck you, Jordan. For the live listeners that will be edited out of the podcast. Let's let it breathe. Hey guys, this is welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drinking novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones for the chat room. We are drinking prophecy wine. My birthright is what we are doing. Absolutely. Well, I believe prophecy wine is actually one of the first wines we drank on the show. I believe the first one was the expedition.

Maybe that sounds right. Then I think we, cause you, cause it was thematically appropriate for the secret of 2017. Right. Right. And then of course, the Bogle in honor of Bogle job, the great. This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about it. I also know a lot about the wines we drank in the past. And apparently so do you. Um, guys, welcome aboard. How are you doing, Jordan? I'm doing all right. That's good. I'm doing all right. This wine is, uh, is very nice. I feel like I'm going to steal some more of your, uh, mystery Oreos eventually. Sure. But the mystery Oreos guys, uh, they're okay.

I feel obligated to do a review, but the review is just they're okay. It's a, it's a Japanese Pepsi flavor where you're like, Oh, this is great for two sips. And then you're like, I never want to, the Japanese green tea cat was a disaster. I don't understand all the words you just put together. Remember, I got very excited about it. And then I was like, Oh, this is terrible, but something that I'm still excited about. God damn it. Dan, that transition is amazing. Um, is our new donors like to give a shout out to Phil. Thanks for joining up with the show. I'm a policy wonk. We appreciate it. So thank you very much.

Thank you very much. Phil Mickelson. Also, I'd like to give a shout out multiple major award anyways. I'd also like to give a shout out to a new globalist. Oh, shit. Uh, big, big shout out going out to you. David R. We appreciate it. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Someone, someone, Sotomayor sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. We appreciate it so much. Thank you. If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click the support the show button and you'll get a audio drop

played for you. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's worth it. And you'll get buttons. We got some buttons going out to people who have requested them already mailed out like a seven or eight buttons. And again, if you'd like a button, send me your email address. We'll send it to you. Yeah. Send me your email address. My girlfriend's mad that they still exist. So let's just send them on out. Also, um, because, uh, we have like some donations and policy wonks stacked up. We, uh, have not made progress since the last time we announced, uh, the, the progress towards the end of the month goal. I don't know. What did you just say?

I was announcing the goal, uh, in terms of, uh, uh, us reaching the end of the month, trying to raise a hundred extra dollars per month. Right. Um, in, uh, in terms of getting the Alex Jones documentary, uh, documentary made, right. Uh, and, uh, then you said a bunch of words in a row that didn't make sense. Those people who I just gave a shout out to, yes, we're already factored into the last, uh, 75% of the way, uh, declaration. Right. So we can't, we can't announce them every single episode or no, we can't announce all of them. No, I just should have done math is what I'm doing. You're not good at that. No, but what I am good at

doing, you are great at doing is listening to Alex Jones. There we go. But unfortunately, Jordan, I've come to a point, um, that I am, I don't, I, I told you a little bit about this before the show and I just don't, I don't think there's value in talking much about Alex Jones in the present day anymore. I think that he is a, an entire entirely a distraction. I think that's all he's doing. He's running interference for something and desperately trying to distract people from and discredit the investigation that Robert Mueller is right. Right. And I'm not entirely joined literally every other Republican and I'm not entirely sure

why he's doing that. I mean, obviously it's team sports and his guy is the one who's being investigated. Yeah. There's, there's some of that, but I don't, I don't feel like that's a satisfying answer as to why, but I can't speculate as to why. I mean, we've, we've uncovered him admitting that he's spoken to Russian intelligence, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's under Russian blackmail. Of course not. Were that to be true. That would explain his desperation. He has been on though before. Absolutely. Yeah. I think that's very, very likely. Yeah. Given the number of times he's done crack. Yeah. 100% likely Alex Jones has been

peed on in the past. Yeah. So I wrote an article about this on the website. Right. And I just want to play some clips because not everybody reads the articles. And so they might not understand some of the frustration that I've come to in terms of Alex Jones in the present on the 23rd of January, earlier this week, Alex Jones got on air and did one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen in my life. And that's considering that I've watched tons of Alex Jones. He married Dennis Rodman. He married himself a lot. Dennis Rodman. What he ended up doing was so to give you some context, Jordan, because you don't keep up with all these

stupid idiots out there in the world. Stupid idiots. Great. You know, though, you know, the ones who am I, Chris Jericho? What's going on? All right. So there is talk on all the conservative and conspiracy boards about a mysterious notorious memo that has been written. Oh, I recall the memo, the one that they have threatened to release and they will release it. Right. And it is absolutely fine for them to release it and they will release it at any moment because the bomb shells within it. It's scary. So terrifying. It's if you read that memo, your eyes would explode out of it. It's like at the end of Raiders of the

Lost Ark. Absolutely. All of the Nazis eyes and brains would melt off. It makes now it makes very strange that this is such an important memo and they've known about it for so long and they still haven't released it. Dan, well, you think there's a reason that they would play up how important it is without ever actually releasing it? Well, experts who've chimed in it on it also have made a note that like it's not an actual intelligence product or anything like that. No. So there's literally nothing standing in the way of them just releasing it. Exactly. Which is the way I described it on the blog was that it's

Schrodinger's memo. It's damning and nothing at the same time until it's revealed. Right. Which you can't do. Just like the text message of the Secret Society. Like the moment they revealed that everybody who was on the fence went fuck you. We're going to get to that in a second. But all this has to be taken in consideration of the stuff we were talking about before. The trends that Alex is experiencing with his fake intelligence source, Zach, not being as cool as QAnon. Right. And then him falling for the Antifa Soros documents that his researcher found on 4chan. Yeah. The embarrassing bullshit. He lives in a

weird world of having to get out in front of the story that is always already out in front of him. He has been left behind by the conspiracy world. And so there's this notorious GOP memo that went around. And so Alex gets on air on the 23rd and this is how he lays it out. Now, I've got a lot of sources, obviously, in Congress. No, I've got sources in the Pentagon. I've got sources in federal law enforcement. I've got sources in academia. Maybe I've got sources in the press. For sure. I've got sources across the board. Heard about And in the last few days, I have basically reverse engineered what is in the

bombshell congressional memo. And then I've checked with my sources without them revealing anything secret. Played a little game of is this accurate. And I should put this with this be what's in it. By the way, I shall write this down and I shall put it in a sealed envelope inside of a lock box in the bank. And when the memo is revealed, so shall they grab that, pull it out and you will know I reverse engineered. By the way, if any of that was true, the sources are still revealing secret information just because you play a game where you're like, am I hot? That doesn't get you around. Doesn't that get you around any

classification? No, this is top secret. Okay, no, you can't say anything. Well, you know how is it? Okay, let's just play 20 questions. You don't have to say yes or no. Jordan, Jordan, I got to play this. Hey, you know how in the house, when they truth or dare, when they have open testimony in the house or in the Senate intelligence committees, and someone will be asked a question about something that is classified, you know how they don't say, Oh my God, you're right on. They say I could not confirm or tonight. I can't comment on that. I never thought that you would ask me that question. Right. So Alex starts the show

off by saying that he has all these sources and he's figured out what's in the document. He's going to after the break, of course, of course, of the hour. Yeah, he's going to tell you what's inside it. Right. A little bit later in the show bees, the narrative turns out it's bees. That's why they haven't released it. You open up that memo bees everywhere. Bees. It's not bees. But I give Alex a bee for what shout out to our beekeeper Matt Drafki. Little bit later, Alex decides to go full hog on this thing. Okay. Okay, folks, I've got to go off air right now. And we've got a very powerful

video that's on drudge report.com. We're leftist, throw fists spit on people. It's a compilation of the women's March. I got to go off air because William Benny former technical head of the National Security Agency, the main technical advisor, obviously on the big film Snowden, who's advised the president and the CIA director Pompeo, he's now advising the president. He's going to be joining us next hour. He just said, Hey, here, why don't you just have the actual memo they're talking about? Now, there's another memo they're writing about this memo. But here it is just sent to counter memo.

I've got to go off air. This is the classified memo right here. I mean, I told you I have sources and that I'd reverse engineered it. But I guess the decision has been made by whoever's telling Benny to send this to us. So there's a lot of problems here. Spoiler alert. It's not the memo. Okay. What he ends up having is this, this foreign intelligence service court memorandum and opinion approving the two 2016 section 702 certifications. It's been public online since at least May 11th, 2017, when it was covered at Nazium, and it's the source of all of Trey Gowdy and all of the like people in

Congress is nonsense about section 702. Because it does bring up some issues that have happened in the past. We've even fucking discussed it on the show. This is not something secret and classified. And it is not what the notorious memo that the GOP has been talking about and playing up. Well, yeah, because it's existed for a long time. This is a big problem. And it's an even bigger problem that Alex is saying that William Benny, the technical head of the NSA, one of his major sources and frequent guests sent it to him saying it was the notorious memo, because that means

William Benny is either a fucking idiot, which is entirely possible. Yeah. Or he's in on it, actively creating propaganda with Alex, which or he is fucking with Alex because now God damn it. If that wouldn't be hilarious. That's possible. But if he is, if you had the chance, if you had the power, fuck you. No, because. All right. Yeah, I can tell you're excited. No, because he's on the hook for this. Alex. How? Because Alex said he gave it to me and said it was the document. So if you're playing games and you want to fuck with Alex, you give it to him and be like, but you can't say you got it

for me. Why? Because it's class. If you're William Benny, who gives a fuck? What? What's going to happen to him? I don't care. One, one, okay. First off, there's nothing. There's no legal ramifications. Because it's already public. It's all nonsense. So you can hand it to him. You can, it's, it's handing anything to Alex and being like, Hey, this is classified. And then watch the fallout happen. Like it's not like he's taken seriously by other media sources that he's no longer going to be invited on. Right. William Benny goes on in Four Wars. Yeah, exactly.

But so just so we can be clear, Alex, a little bit later does specify that this is the memo that everyone's talking about. But, but I still want to keep you want to clown on Benny. No, I think this is brilliant. If he is fucking with Alex, here's, here's the situation, right? No consequences for him. Even if you think that Alex would be mad at him for lying to him, Alex can't say that. Alex has to continue to believe whatever bullshit he believes. Right. He can't go behind the scenes and be like, Benny, fucked me. Well, he could yell it in behind the scenes, maybe, but

so he wouldn't do that. Cause then he couldn't get any more fake memos in the future. So he makes it overly clear that this is the memo that everyone's talking about. It's a lot of memo. So then he does this a little bit later in the show, which is pretty fun. It's not the I'm literally in Kit Daniel's office. While we're trying to post it, they grabbed control of the computer and turned it off and fry it right in front of us. Yeah. And then jumping in. They are inside our computers right now, but they can't stop us. They can't stop us from publishing it because guess what

idiots? Trump already published it. It already got published. We haven't told you yet. You're fools. Six months. So you're not going to stop anything, globalist. Understand that Hillary Clinton and all of you. Well, I tell you, I've never seen something like this live time in Kit Daniel's computer because I'm on there saying post it. Can you believe that? I think it Daniel's probably is looking at porn at work. I absolutely cannot believe it. No, of course not. It's something that's been public and discussed for seven months. There's no way globalists hacked in and fried his computer because he's trying

to post it just from a technical standpoint. That seems silly from a technical director. I think he means, I think he means that that computer just melted down. I'm going. I'm not going to say I'm saying literally from top to bottom. No, I think melted as if it was poured into lava. Kit Daniel's was looking at porn. That's what Daniel's was probably looking at porn. So it all leads to this. And of course, this is the inevitable payoff. They said that Watergate was a constitutional crisis. That was child's play compared to what we're looking at here. Stop there. The whole house of cars. You're going to do

five more minutes for me coming back out of break here. I just need to plug once. This is very expensive around this operation. Fuck. We got Soros back groups coming after says, you know, doesn't surprise. We have great products at infowarslife.com. I even forgot to bring my plug sheet in here, but we've got the combo with the X2 and the secret. So whatever he does along the plug. So the issue is that he's trying love love and Roger Stone right now. He create gotta give it to him. It's not important. That's not that's beyond that's beside the point right now. I know the issue is that Alex Jones is

creating this giant distraction hoax nonsense. Whether he believes or not that he actually has the document, he knows that he has to get in on what's cool on the internet and the conspiracy communities. And he has to do one better. And so he does. It's embarrassing. Wait. So is anybody else pulled this bullshit? What has the internet pulled? Has the internet this specific bullshit internet like I'm with this has has the internet done something with this document? Yeah, I mean, like when you're talking about four channel or anything like anybody pulled this shit out of their ass. But Alex, no, because

everyone on the internet would be like, this isn't going to play. Yeah, that's crazy. Alex got called out on it very quickly. But he doesn't, you know, he doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. He just it's a way to try and get more ears on his commercials till time. So this narrative doesn't follow to the next day on the next day on the 24th, I believe yet 24th. He's talking about the Secret Service texts or the FBI texts about a secret society. So he just jumps to that because that's what everyone's talking about. That's what all the conspiracy world is up in arms with. And I didn't listen to the show

today. But I have to assume he's onto a new thing because that fucking thing got blown up. Yeah, those texts got released and they're nothing. He's just it's it's not worth our time. That's an interesting that's an interesting point. Because that is kind of the quintessential decline of the US media in the first place is that once you start once we started having a media that chased after the internet, it was it was over, right? You know, like because the internet has the shortest attention span in history, once the media starts chasing the internet, they destroy their attention span as well. Right. So Alex is the same way. If he

actually had the memo, how big of a story is that? Well, that's forever a story. Well, but that's a feather in his cap forever. And he's he just moves on the next day. He has to pretend that. And so does everybody else though. He has to pretend that he does though, because he has to pretend that he's the king of that world. Right. He's not. No, he's not. The the internet is much better at this than him. Yeah. And much more creative. And he's like, it's a it's a problem. And I don't really care. I don't have you studied rise on theory. Anyways, keep going. I just there's not much we can do about the present stuff. I really don't

think so. And I think that it for I look, I'm not going to to my own horn. But I think I can do a pretty decent job of investigating a lot of stuff. Yeah. One thing that I can't emotionally handle doing is chasing bullshit threads in the immediate that Alex throws out. Yeah. And so this is sort of a resignation on my part. And that is, I don't care about the present anymore. I'm not interested. I may check back from time to time. But whatever everyone's talking about whatever the newest meme, but Alex Jones is, I probably will have very minimal awareness of it. I'm going back in time. I don't care. I'm only focusing on the

past now. Because I think that is where truth is. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, there's an argument to be made that that's a way of coping with your disgust and hatred of the present. It's not rather than rather than combating it head on. No, it's not. It's it's I can't handle watching his show in the present. It makes me really sad. Yeah, that's true. It's a bummer. It's a desperate man raving about nothing. Yeah. And it's not like I told you before the show. I think it's beneath us. Quite frankly, if you if you started editing out the Alex Jones parts and just left in Roger Stone, having a great old time, I think I'd be fine with it for a

good 25 minutes. He got fooled by the document too. Who cares? Roger Stone doesn't care. Roger Stone is living the best life right now. Maybe maybe maybe for a little while even with that short little clip of him talking. It was like, yeah, they said that Nixon was crazy. Well, Jordan, this is fantastic. This is my way of telling you something. Oh, no. I found some really old episodes. Oh, no. And how old we're talking 2008. No shit. So we're going 10 years back in the past. It's about time. Today we'll be going over March 18 2008. I'll proceed forward from this point through 2008 and see what we can learn. Do you know what excites me the most, Dan? What's that? I'm officially Marty McFly. I honestly

expected a round of applause about that reveal. We're going to be covering 2008. This is very exciting. I mean, we're going to be able to cover Obama's election. There's all sorts of things from the past that we'll be able to get into now. So you found a whole trove of 2008. Holy shit, did I? We're just going to absolutely dismantle 2008. And then maybe the future, you know, even from there, you know, nine, 10. Yeah. Yeah. So we... Oh, I was hoping you would come upon a trove from 2028 as well. We'll be going back 10 years in the past and 10 years into the future. Stay tuned to the knowledge fight time machine.

Very bigoted about aliens. It's like that Mr. Show Gleepglop. Absolutely. So Jordan, let's go back in time to 2008. Don't ever. Don't ever. If you start doing that every single episode, I'm going to kill you. On March 18th, Alex Jones begins his show with a three minute audio piece, a pre-package of, guess what, James O'Keeffe's first project. James O'Keeffe was just... This was the, uh, this was the not, this is the Planned Parenthood one. Yeah. So Alex Jones has a big audio package at the beginning that includes a couple of James O'Keeffe's prank calls to Planned Parenthood, which we will listen to now.

All right. What's your position? Administrative assistant. Okay. When I underwrite abortion, is that applied to minorities too? If you specifically want it to underwrite an abortion for a minority person, you can target it that way. You can, you can specify that that's how you want it spent. Okay. Yeah. Cause there's, there's definitely way too many black people in Ohio, so I'm just trying to do my part.

Okay. Whatever. Well, blacks especially need abortions too. So that's what I'm trying to do. Well, for whatever reason, we'll accept the money. Okay. So that's the first one. Not great. She, That was real? She clearly said whatever to his racism. Yeah.

It's, it's a, it's the sort of thing where you get the sense by listening to them that whenever he proposes this, this idea of like where, you know, I'd like to give money for abortions for black people. Right. The way they interpret that is, you know, there are a lot of people who don't have access to healthcare in minority communities. Right. Sure. Great.

00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:29,800 That's nice of you to want to help. Yeah, absolutely. And then just like any charity that helps anybody who doesn't, who can't afford help on their own. Great. And there are also minorities who can't afford it. Fantastic.

I would posit that these prank calls really reveal more about the people making them than the people receiving them because the positions that they advocate aren't really out of line with their real positions. I know. So it's, it's weird to listen to him talk like a white supremacist and not be like, oh yeah, you're a white supremacist. Well, why don't you like, he's pretending that he's, he's playing a character, but he sounds very sincere.

Well, let's listen to the next one. Yeah. Good afternoon. This is Autumn. Hello, Autumn. I'm, I'm interested in making a donation today. Fantastic. What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups?

Oh, absolutely. We have, in fact, wonderful, fantastic news. We just received a very generous donation to our Women in Need fund. Wonderful. I want to, I want to specify that abortion to help our minority group. Would that be possible? Like the black community, for example? Certainly.

Okay. So, so the abortion could, could be, you know, I could give money specifically for a black baby. That would, that would be the purpose. Yeah. Absolutely. If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help an African American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically.

So, the call's not done. She sounds very nice. The call's not done. She's being very clear about what they are accepting this as. Yeah. And he is, you know, full of racism. At this point, the call could have ended because he has gotten out of her what he wants to get out of it.

He has said something vaguely racist and they've been like, we'll accept your money. Right. However. This is where we find out he should have taken a level one course at Second City. Well, the call goes on another like 35 seconds and this is all unnecessary and probably just, it feels like he's venting. Yeah. Without purpose.

Great. Because I really face trouble with formative action and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged, you know, against black kids. I just had a baby. I want to put it in his name, you know. So that's definitely a possible. Oh, always, always. So I just wanted to, can I put this in the name of my son?

Absolutely. In the name of my son. Great. He's trying to get into colleges and he'll be applying. I thought he said maybe. And he just, we're just really big. Wait, what are you doing? He really, he really faced troubles with formative action.

All right. What is that? I don't know. What is facing troubles with affirmative action? I don't know. It's complete nonsense. It's, it's just, it doesn't, it doesn't prove a goddamn thing. So the idea that, the idea that he's.

This baby is trying to get into college. Well, the baby is applying to colleges already. And he's faced troubles multiple with affirmative action. So that means that everywhere he goes, he gets affirmative action to out. Yes. This baby. But like, that's a lot of affirmative action. You know, like people like Alex and Alex himself are not in favor of affirmative

action. So the idea that James O'Keeffe is using affirmative action as a racist ploy to prank, uh, Planned Parenthood, it falls in line with their beliefs. It's just that he's saying, Oh, I'm really racist about this. Yeah. As opposed to being like, no, it just gives people an unfair leg up and like whatever sanitized version of their complaints about affirmative action, they really have.

Right. This is just the reality. Him on the phone is like, Oh, this is just letting out what my real complaints about affirmative action are. Well, not just, not just, not just that, but it's, it's very much like, okay, you're going to make a racist donation. That's still a donation to Planned Parenthood. And that's like all the donations in Mike Pence's name is just like, yeah, sweet, fine,

whatever. And the further point is these people that he's talking to on the phone, generally their business is making money for Planned Parenthood or their low level functionaries who work there. And they're like, they're not going to tell him to fuck off on the phone. They'll get fired. No. Also, they're, they're just like, they heard him say, I want to make a donation.

And they're like, cool, cool, cool. Move along, come on, come on, come on. Absolutely. Got to get to the next donation. Whatever it is you're saying is great. I don't care. Give me the card number. You even heard in the first one that like the lady's like, whatever.

Yeah. Exactly. Whatever. Yeah. Fine. And obviously believe, believe whatever you want about us killing minority babies. We're still going to take your money and use it to do good. You're an idiot.

Your racism went so far. You're doing good for black communities. Yeah. Which I guess. I mean, that's fine. You're, you're, you're accidentally doing good as a prank. Yeah. Yeah.

But I don't think he actually gave them any money. I think it was, I bet he hung up when it got to that point. Then he's a fucking piece of shit for that. Screw. Screw. All of that. Like if you're going to do that, fucking go all the way. I would say so.

And you have to. Otherwise you don't have receipts. To quote, to quote the great insane clown posse. Let's go all the way. Anyway, in this next clip. That was great quoting. Thank you. In this next clip, Alex Jones sort of talks a little bit about O'Keeffe's

stunt of recording calls with Planned Parenthood, which he got into a bit of trouble for because. Yeah. He didn't have the people's consent to. No, that's against the law. I believe that the person who went into the clinics pretending to be pregnant and recording people. She did time, right?

I don't know if she did time, but she did get into some trouble about like harassment and recording people without their consent. She had to donate to Planned Parenthood specifically for minorities. So here's Alex Jones' assessment and this doesn't look good. They, a student group randomly called seven different out of a list of hundreds. They randomly chose seven different Planned Parenthoods. They all said the same thing. If you believe that he only called seven, you're insane.

Yeah. Giggling, snickering. Oh, absolutely. It's all about killing Blackie. It's so liberal. It's so sweet. And of course you'll never hear Barack Obama criticize it. No, no, there'll be lots of yelling and screaming about Black pride.

But at the end of the day, they know who they work for. We'll cover this in a lot more. Huge transmission today. Stay with me. Okay. He sounds a little lethargic. I think he sounds horny. Oh, it's all about killing Blackie.

Well, he's getting into it. He's getting into it in a way that he doesn't always, you know, like, you can see flickers of the next, the 2015 Planned Parenthood hoax, even here, like there's, there's the misquoting of people acting like they're indulgent in all this. It's, it's, it's fascinating to me. Like to take this document from 10 years ago where he's like, Oh, I see present day in there.

Why? I just like the fact that nobody has bombing Planned Parenthoods in this year. I guess I'm glad nobody is a spray painting swastikas and all of that shit there. In 2008, 2008 was a very, it was a much more innocent type. I think there was at least one shooting at a clinic. That's true. The Tea Party was not a great organization. But at least they weren't out and out Nazis.

Got to give them that. Wow. They were proto Nazis. They were pretty Nazi-ish. No, I agree. So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into discussing the tapes a little bit more. And I don't think he does a good job. They randomly called seven different Planned Parenthoods and got the same response.

Laughing, smacking of lips. Right there. The smacking of lips is literally what he says about those people in the Planned Parenthood tapes from 2015. That's a direct verbatim example that it doesn't accurately depict either instance of the people from Planned Parenthood. It's just a weird hang-up he has about people. I love that he's constantly evolving tapes.

But smacking of lips somehow indicates to him evil. It's weird and it's consistent. Yeah, I do think. But again, the Planned Parenthood tapes, the second ones weren't O'Keeffe. I'm not going to lie. I think it's pretty good imagery because whenever you hear smacking of lips, you think of a very animalistic behavior. I don't.

I think of a child, an annoying child. That's what I think of. Weird. Well, maybe it's because I got yelled at a lot for smacking when I was younger. Yeah, and I still feel a little bit ashamed. Yeah, and you should. Back to the clip. Oh, there's too many blacks.

I want this for blacks. Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. And the people that run these, I've been around them. I've met them. I've protested them. They are literally some type of weird zombie. They are just the sickest, most wicked, cult-like people you can imagine.

Don't believe me. Just go down and go into one of these places and talk to them. One has to experience the matrix before they can really be told about it. It's just better to experience it. I think that his listeners who take him up on that and go down there and talk to them, probably wouldn't go talk to them, probably go yell at them. Yeah, I was going to say, I like him describing. It's just to experience the matrix when you're hostile to the matrix.

I like the idea that the people who are going to work every day are the cult, not the insane people standing outside of the building every day, screaming and holding signs. If you're going to choose which one was the cult, would it be the person getting paid a living wage? Right. No. Well, and the other thing too is that the only real relevant conversation here is, does society overwhelmingly and by and large approve of abortion as a medical

procedure that women are entitled to have? And we've had that conversation and the answer is yes. Should be over. So all of this other side trapping bullshit is really just, it's the same thing. It's just distraction over here to try and chip away at women's right to reproductive health under the name of racism or something else. Okay. So if your argument is that Planned Parenthood is racist.

Well, we can get into that. Isn't that kind of, because that's kind of their argument, isn't it? Yes, because that guy can be a white supremacist and then they'll be like, yes, we'll kill minorities. Well, actually put a pin in that because we're going to get back to it. There's another clip later where Alex talks about Planned Parenthood being racist and then I can dispel all that. Gotcha.

But in this next clip, Alex Jones claims that all black leaders are globalists. That sounds right. Which does not raise us. No. I don't know one black leader. He could have just stopped there. In Austin, Texas. Not now.

I don't know one black leader in Dallas where I grew up. I don't know one black leader in the country. He must be a tired nation. Somebody to media sticks out there. There's plenty of black leaders, but we're either assassinated or never even given any media attention. But the mainline pimps of the New World Order, you know, the minions. So what you have there is already a dichotomy that is unsustainable.

It is untenable because he's basically saying that any black leader that you're aware of is controlled by the globalists. Right. The only good ones are dead. The only good ones are dead. Right. Right, right. Which you could take a look back through history and see a lot of very good black

leaders who have been killed. Yeah. In the Fred Hamptons. Who have been murdered. Right. Exactly. Murdered specifically for being good black leaders. But that does not mean necessarily that all of the black leaders that you do see are

globalist control just because some good ones have been murdered. Now. But you see, you understand what the intention of that argument is. It's to disenfranchise and take legitimacy and power away from any black voices that you do here. I agree. But Al Sharpton is a globalist. That's just a truth. That might be the case.

That might be the case. That's the facts. Also, James David Manning globalist. Yeah, absolutely. Of the New World Order. And they've got every major groups, people under control. But the Judas Coates to control the black community. They'll give fiery speeches about devil, whitey all day.

Let's just talk about Farrakhan. You know, thump their chest and talk about how white's are absolutely wicked and devilish and cunning and hurting the people that are racist. I was talking about Obama's pastor too. When in average, the average white person's a guilty, you know, chicken-necked, limper-isted person running around with a guilt complex, rolling out red carpets for black people in my experience. That's not my experience.

But also, we can tell already in 2008, Alex Jones is deep, deep white identity ideas and guilt narratives firmly in place. I don't want you to make me feel bad for all the bad things that everybody I've ever known has done to black people. Well, to be fair, I don't even think that he's at the point of saying, I don't want to be made to feel bad. Well, yeah. I think he's saying that all white people already unnecessarily feel bad, and he's pointing the finger at them for that.

It's not even, he's not evolved his position, at least in this rant. Into the stop making me feel bad. Yeah, I'm afraid of feeling bad kind of thing. Exactly. Which is what? Is that progress? To be so correct that his denial then has to spiral further down into insanity? I would call it regress. I think it's negative progress.

I mean, I would call it racism. Yes. So speaking of which, now we go to that clip where he gets into Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger. Are we going to do the Sanger thing again? It's a different part of it. It's a different Sanger. We've already discussed the idea that Margaret Sanger was in the KKK. She wasn't.

She wasn't. We've already discussed the idea that she started clinics specifically in black neighborhoods. She didn't. She didn't. The early ones were in African-American neighborhoods and Jewish and immigrant communities. Therefore, women, which may be the largest issue of all for these assholes. The clinics, especially in the early times, were disproportionately in low-income neighborhoods, because those were the populations they were serving, because they needed help.

Because rich people have always been able to get abortions. Even if you make it illegal, rich people will still have it. Right. And that's the reason that they're in poor neighborhoods is because they don't have access to it the way that they should. And that's something that through her writings, she made very clear. The idea that like making it illegal doesn't end abortions. It just makes them kill women.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Basically. Yeah. And so, but Alex Jones has another quote from her. Which may be why they, maybe they hide, like maybe that's a smart idea too. Maybe they hide behind the idea that Planned Parenthood is racist in order to kind of counteract the fact that their hatred of it is more misogynist than anything else.

It's an inability to respect women. There's some of that for sure. Yeah. Like any criticism of Planned Parenthood on that kind of angle is misogynist in nature. Yeah. It's essentially saying women shouldn't be allowed to choose. Men should be allowed to choose for women. Right.

Like that's what it really is. Yeah. So to imagine that it is racist is like even if you think Planned Parenthood is racist, you're still a misogynist. You don't, you don't get a pass on that. Yeah. You don't, you don't win. No, but the argument that they're making is like that the murder of babies,

because that's the way they view it. Right. And the racism, the specific trying to exterminate the black community, because that's what they pretend Planned Parenthood is doing, proceeds. It supersedes my misogyny. This is more important. But that doesn't make any sense. Take the plank out of your eye before you criticize the speck in mind.

You don't understand like, why would you need to escalate it to racism? If your argument is they're murdering babies, why do you even need that additional like, oh, and they're racist? Well, because I think some people are stupid and are tricked by the racism narratives regarding Planned Parenthood. Yeah. But then, but then that's just that they're fine with murdering babies. So long as it's not racist.

I think, oh, that's a good point. I didn't think about that. Anyway, I want to get to this clip because we're coming up on maybe my favorite clip. One of my favorite clips of all time. This one is not that. But it is about Margaret Sanger in a new way that we have discussed that. And the truth about it. It's the Sanger Banger.

It is. And the truth about it is pretty interesting. You have Planned Parenthood predominantly in the minority areas. It's a mission. And these are the official writings and letters of Margaret Sanger and Foundation Minutes saying that the black person is a weed and must be exterminated. And it's big. There's letters to all these robber barons.

She was getting millions of dollars and that was equivalent of billions back then. She was being jailed. I just set up these foundations and how, oh, we've got a higher black front doctors because the blacks only trust other blacks. So that part is the one we've already talked about there at the end. The idea that in a letter that she wrote, she was saying that she wanted to get black doctors. And it wasn't because we can trick them. No, it's probably because they don't have as many jobs.

So many different reasons you could have black doctors. That's probably part of it. But the excuse or the reasoning that she gives in the actual letter is that people are more likely to be trusting with people of their own social set. And so the idea of opening up to a white doctor might be more difficult than a black person opening up to a black doctor. And again, remember, this was like in the 1920s. Now, this is not like...

Furthermore, I don't have any problem with that. I don't either. I don't think any black person should trust a white person ever. Okay. Ever. I thought you were going to go a different direction. No, I should have known. Why would you?

So Alex Jones is talking, he said... It's like a Native American trusting a white person. Don't do it. The part that I wanted to take out of that quote is the thing about black people being weeds that he's quoting Margaret Sanger on saying. Why? Yeah, but okay. So this is interesting.

Is it in the minutes? Well, see, there's a quote that's attributed to her from 1922. They went around in a meme that says... Well, then it must be true. Slavs, Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds. A dead weight of human waste. Black soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race. That's an aggressive quote.

Yeah. So Snopes, they got into it and they did a bit of research into finding out what the truth of this was. And so I'll just read from their breakdown. Was it just the word no with 400 O's and an exclamation point? Tracing the origins of the quote above proved difficult as many primary iterations of it have since been deleted from the web, though some are cached. The earliest versions we were able to locate didn't appear until sometime between 2008 and 2009, right when we're talking about.

Primarily on blogs and message boards. All of these initial iterations cited a now deleted page on a Crisis Pregnancy Center's website. Oh, so you know it's true. A cache of which can be viewed here and they link to it. Right, right, right. The page was titled Racist and Eugenicist Statements by Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. And that iteration of the quote suggested,

via the creative use of bracketed paraphrasing, Sanger's words had been somewhat creatively interpreted. Oh. So... What did she, did she write them in French? What they did, what they had from the website is this quote. Slavs, Latin and Hebrew immigrants are human weeds. A dead weight of human waste.

Black soldiers and Jews are a menace to the race. Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need. We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock. And then it quotes Margaret Sanger, April 1933 birth control review. If she ran as a Republican, she would win. The publication birth control review is available online. And they looked through it that quote doesn't exist in any way where the citation comes from. So this is just a meme.

Alex is just referencing something that was quoted on message boards. He's pretending that he did deep research into this and it's nonsense. He's just believing a hoax. Well, I mean, even then, if it is in the minutes, say that it's true. This was in the minutes. Margaret Sanger said it and it was written down. They're talking about this in 2008. If I was running Planned Parenthood in, say, the 60s and I were looking through

Margaret Sanger our inspiration for existing notes and I saw that I'd be like, now we're going to leave that shit out. So somehow that's supposing then that somebody had a copy of these minutes and pass them down hand to hand to get to 2008. Yeah. That's what we're really saying right here. Is that this is an oral history of bullshit. It sounds wild.

But I mean, let's not be super unfair. Margaret Sanger was into eugenics. But she wasn't. Who is it? But from all her writings, she doesn't seem to be a racial eugenics person. Right. She seems to be a practical. What if we killed all the dumb people?

Well, yeah, unfortunately. Unfortunately for some of that. But that was a prevailing theory in the 20s. Right. It's not, it's not good. And it's certainly something that we hopefully all should have moved past at this point. But any eugenics in the 20s was inextricably tied to race regardless of whatever it was dressed up as.

Likely. Yeah. Likely. But the argument that Alex makes about the Planned Parenthood having eugenics, racial eugenics roots, it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Yeah. That isn't accurate. Anyway.

No. And look, here's the thing about that. All right. No matter how good a person you are, immediately after the election, there was probably a point where you were like, what if we did just get rid of dumb people? Now that's technically eugenics. It's a dangerous precedent. It's an awful thing to think.

And you immediately go, well, that's a bad idea. But at the same time, the thought is there. Jordan, I'm going to skip this next clip because it's not as interesting as I thought when I was cutting clips. Yeah. And all it is is Alex Jones saying that all Nazis are either feds or actually Jewish. And just trying to cause trouble. There we go.

So we'll leave this. I want to get into that. No, you don't. Okay. We'll leave it alone because he said it before in the past. I was just trying to trace that like, that's something he's believed for years. I wonder if he says that now. Oh yeah, he does.

That's crazy. Yeah. But anyway, the reason I'm skipping it is because I need to get to this next clip. This makes me so. I mean, his friends are Nazis. This makes me so happy, Jordan. Yeah. This to a T is why there's still, despite everything I know about him,

horrible a man he is in 2018. You still kind of love him. There is a part of me that I want there to be a way he can be saved. You're rooting for the redemption narrative. It's impossible. No, of course not. But back in 2008, it might have been possible and I know it from this clip. Put your mic down.

This tickles me and charms me to no end. Okay. I was a highway man along the coach roads. I did ride with sword and pistol by my side. Many a soldier should his life blood on my blade. The master taught me in the spring of 25. Wait for this moment. That's coming.

It's so gorgeous. I am still alive. I was a sailor. I was born upon the tide. Chris Christofferson. I wonder what he thinks about 9 11. I went along off the world. The main's a little blow and when the yards broke off, they said that I got killed.

But I'm living still that's part right here. First I got pause for a second. Spoiler alert. He plays the whole song. But also when he air guitar when he just said air guitar when he just said best part right here. That is exactly the point in the song where many times I've drunkenly said best part of the song coming up right here. This is on the show.

Back live ladies and gentlemen. We do have big guests today by the way. I should have told you this at the start of the transmission. Dr. Dina Dell is coming up in the next segment. We'll see if he shows up at this interview. I'm looking forward to that. I'll find a place. Your house.

Yeah. Dr. Dina Dell coming up. Part three of interviews we've been doing with Jeffrey Smith at noon. About 40 minutes into transmission from now. And Bob Chapman today for a full hour. Ooh, Bob Chapman. Getting to the financials. Yeah, cool man. Can't wait to hear some Bob Chapman.

Oh shit. He played the whole Highwaymen song. That's so awesome. That's so awesome. What an alternate reality radio show. Don't you kind of like him? I kind of like that. I swear to God if he was a radio DJ and he just did that for a bunch of classic country songs.

I'd find that okay. Just talking over it a little bit. Even if he occasionally threw in the race and could become a hot. Also, by the way, Planned Parenthood is full of racist monsters. Anyways, and then he goes right back to the song. I'd be like, oh, that wasn't that. That wasn't okay. Like he's.

But I love what you're doing. He's playing Amarillo by morning. And it's like, this song's about the rodeo. Amarillo by morning from Santa Fe. Santa tone. Santa tone. Yeah, but that's the stuff, man, where you see those flickers of like, that's fun. Yeah.

And it's even more surreal. That's a real laugh. He was genuinely having fun. He was so happy. He was genuinely having fun. The worst thing that ever happened to him is he got popular. Oh my God, we should go. He got, he's so thrilled.

Okay. He's so thrilled just to be like, hey, there's Waylon Jennings versus the best part. Okay. So we just figured it out. New way to interview Alex Jones. Don't even bother with asking him questions. Don't bother with trying to gotcha clips. No, no.

Play that stuff and be like, do you remember when you were happy? Yeah. No, no, no, pretend to be Waylon Jennings. Well now. I think he's dead. But, uh, be that as it may, that to me is. Okay. So then.

Or you could, I mean, that was good. In the song, you just say, I'll always be around. He will always be around. Um, I just can't get over it. I can't get over stuff like that. Anybody who watched reruns of the Dukes of Hazard knows. See, you kind of, you kind of get a sense of, of what, what I'm talking about at the beginning of the show.

When I'm talking about the, the present, when he's just on this distraction bullshit, I can go back to the past, find stuff he's lying about, we can have fun. And then I can hear stuff like that. Yeah. No, he's, he's a, he's a huge piece of shit, but that's charming. That's charming. And you got to give him that. And the surreality of him just talking about like, you know, blacks are the real racist group.

It's trying to exterminate black people. All black leaders are globalists. I was a highway man. I can't get enough of it. I love it so much. I had such a weird thing. So in that, at the end of that, during Johnny Cash's verse there at the end of that, I'll fly a starship across the universe divide.

And if I reach the other side, I'll find a place to rest my spirit. If I can, perhaps I'll become a highway man again, or maybe I'll just be a single drop. That listening to you and that song and the way you feel about that song and then listening to Alex and the way he feels about that song, very sweet, gives me such a, like you guys are the Batman and the Joker kind of like, you're, you're the same. You're the same spectrum, just two opposite ends of the pole. Fantastic.

I am the, I'm the darker brother. You are, I'm referencing a poem. No, I know, but be that as it may in the context of the racist, uh, Planned Parenthood stuff. Pretty funny though. That was, I mean, to be fair, a spoiler alert, that's one of my old karaoke jams. Also love, love getting up there and singing, uh, singing that highway man. Anyway, uh, at the end there, uh, Alex is saying that we got some big interviews coming

up. We got Bob Chapman also known as listening to that song. I was like, when is John Bon Jovi's verse? You know what I'm saying? How dare you? He would have made that song. Great. How dare you? Um, he says at the end, he's got a big interviews.

We got Bob Chapman also known as the guy who said that Reagan got butt fucked. Uh, and that we're not going to listen to much of him. Uh, he also has a guy named, he's not, he's not on the butt fuck bullshit. I want to talk about the economy. Oh, bullshit. And he gets usurped by something else, which we'll talk about at the end of the show. He also has an interview with a guy named Jeffrey Smith, who just wants to talk about GMO as a whole bunch.

Right. And we'll get to that in a little bit before he does. He has an interview with Dr. Dean Adele. Dean Adele or something. I'm not sure. I'm not sure who this doctor is entirely. I know he has a radio show. Oh, it's a guy.

Yeah. I haven't, I haven't looked into him too much. I don't, I don't really care to all that much because in the same way that Alex singing the entire song of highway men was endearing and delightful. This is not. No, it's amazing. Okay. In 2008, Alex Jones was still in a place where he would invite people onto his show

who would just own him. Dr. Dell Adele. I don't know, Dean, whatever. Dina. He just keeps smacking the shit out of Alex. Really? In this first clip. I want to hear this so bad.

In the first clip, Alex tries to get into vaccines with, with him and the response should have led Alex to a more intellectual study of the things he talks about. No, no, no, no, no. We know, we know from history that Alex Jones just ignores everything that he hears from this literal real doctor as opposed to his chiropractor friend. The point is, the point, the really isn't the aren't, don't you care whether thimerosal causes diseases or not? So at this point, Alex is making the argument that thimerosal is the chemical that's being

tainting in vaccines. Yes. He has since, I think, changed it a little bit. I'm not sure what the chemical he argues for now is. Trymerosal. Right. You've got to care about that first. You've got to show me evidence that thimerosal is bad.

Okay, okay, Houston Chronicle, here it is. Health officials admit vaccines may have hurt Georgia girl. Federal blue ribbon panel. This is just February 25th. This is just last month. Found and ruled in her favor. This is a blue ribbon panel. Blue ribbon, but you've got to keep reading where it says this does not imply the vaccines

cause autism. This young child, if indeed, this is not a court of law, by the way. He's making reference to something that we've gone over. Yeah. The vaccine court is not a court of law. Yeah. There's different standards of what you have to prove. Right, right, right.

That one case out of millions and millions and millions and millions, this child has a genetic defect that's very unusual. A mitochondrial DNA defect in combination with something having to do with vaccines, not thimerosal, read it carefully, may have played a role in a single case. When an airplane goes down, do you stop flying? No, but it's okay. So we've got to grow up here. It's such a...

Let me finish. We've got to... White, listen, you don't get... We've got to put me in a little bit. Follow you off the face of the earth. Smallpox off the face of the earth. Where is the theory of hooping cough? Tetanus, where are these diseases?

You don't take that technology because there is some flaw and it's not absolutely perfect. Oh, shit. You'd rather talk if you love it and you're willing to take a 1 in 2500 risk of killing yourself this year. Americans have got to grow up and understand that technology is not perfect. You have to be willing to sacrifice. Let me stop you. Let me stop you. There are actually...

And if you'd like, actually about 50 of them here in front of me. So he goes on to say like, you can't... No, it's fun for you to just go up there and say, you know, there aren't studies. I have 50 of them here. Yeah, sure. Like, fuck you. Sure. So then he goes on to be...

My favorite part. My favorite part was just... Grow up. No, no, no. Not that. Just the first thing he said was, you have to keep reading, Alex. Right. That was immediately like, ah, you won.

You won easily. Easily you won. To be fair, it's a point we make a lot. I know, but to say it to his face... It's pretty impressive. So good. So good. So at that point, Alex Jones starts yelling about like, there's so much autism in the world.

Of course. And why are there so much autism? Why are the numbers going up so much? I mean, he's manipulatively using autism numbers. And again, we've gone over this over and over and over again. The numbers don't reflect reality necessarily because... Again, read NeuroTribes. It's a great book.

Well, I'm not sure if this is the argument that's being made in that, but you know, if you want to talk about a less evolved time in our history, we didn't understand various parts of the spectrum. And we didn't understand how to diagnose properly. There were a lot of people who were autistic who weren't presenting it in the same way that... Isn't it crazy how autism diagnoses have rise and yet hysteria diagnoses have fallen? Interesting.

Isn't it strange how many different diseases have disappeared almost entirely? Well, but it's the same thing that you can make these stupid arguments about. Like, I'm sure what he would do. I think he probably believes this. This idea of the feminization of society and all this. And it's like, why are there so many trans people here now? There weren't before. Right.

And what he's not taking into account is how many people were trans before, but either killed themselves or never were comfortable or never comfortable living in public. That sort of thing. Those sorts of things can't be captured by statistics, but they are a part of life. And that's the way he manipulatively uses these statistics and what have you. Anyway, at this point... Um, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, I'm afraid your child has been diagnosed with douchebaggery. That's...

No, no, it's Mr. and Mrs. Jones. David Jones, my dad, I hope he never dies. In this next clip, Alex Jones, because Dr. Dean Adele is saying like, Hey, you've got to... Did you say Dean Adele? Because I keep hearing Dean Adele. I do too. And that's a delightful name, but it's not his name.

The problem is I didn't look into it. Dean Adele. Dean Adele. Of all the things I look into, one of them wasn't, who is this doctor? I just didn't have time. Anyway, Alex at this point tries to go into like, just, you know, Hey, here's a story I can tell you. Yeah.

And like, this will prove my point. I was in a hot tub. More or less. With three different guys. Third try. What is doing in doc? How come there's just suddenly all these autistic kids everywhere? Right, right.

But don't, because it's increased, doesn't mean... But did the tooth fairy do this? Did the tooth fairy do what? Increase autism? I mean, I'm at... No, because... But don't you want to... But listen, I want to find out why and what's going on to waste all this fun.

I don't need to need scientific studies. I've talked to, and I've got them, by the way. Right. I mean, I'll be at a shopping mall. I'll be on vacation. There's a lady there at the pool. She's got an autistic son and I walk over and I say, When did this happen?

Oh, he was 18 months old. Let me guess, he had a convulsion that night. She goes, How do you know? Do you know me? Who are you? He had a convulsion after that and then... And I said, Oh, let me guess. The hospital tried to take your kids saying you shook them.

Real quick, we'll get to the doctor's response. But I just want to point out, this is a story he tells to present day. This is one of his favorite stories. It still goes on. Oh, yeah. He uses this exact same example. This is like one of those road hacks he's been doing. Right, right.

Same hour for 20 years. And it's the same as stand-up comedy where it's like, I was talking to this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you fucking worked. Man, why is it they get the shot and sometimes have a convulsion in the hospital? Listen, it's a common reasoning fallacy. There are so many shots that are given to kids. There is nothing can happen in a child that isn't a week or two after a shot

or a week or two before the shot. And it sure seems like there's a relationship. It sure seems like it. And if there is, we need to find out. But we're just wasting and spinning our wheels, not getting to the bottom of autism by constantly having to put down a theory that kind of came and it kind of went. So let's move on. Why is it that older fathers have autistic kids?

Why is it that women have certain obstetrical problems? Well, obviously they know. So then he just goes off into more of his, you know, the patent bullshit that he always does. I love him. I have fallen in love with Dr. Deena Dell. You're going to love him even more because in this next clip, Alex tries to bring up fluoride.

No. Oh, he's going to get fucked up on fluoride. This is really interesting. His response is, and like, I love the way that the doctor is just like, he's doing kind of what we aspire to do. If he's laughing, kind of saying, well, Alex, come on. He's treating him like a child. Yeah.

Because well, he is a child. Exactly. That's why it's really stinging. You like grow up. Yeah. We've got to grow up. The logical fallacy, once he laid that out, you're like, oh, Alex, what do you got?

Right. That's all you got. You made a noise. Anyway, on to fluoride. Let's take sodium fluoride. I just said to you during the break, if you know that they take the whole waste from the aluminum and of course, fertilizer manufacturer,

and then that's what they call fluoride that they then put in the water. And you said, I've never heard that. I'm going to make sure you get email all the mainstream documentation and the head of epidemiology departments and FDA investigators all saying it. FCC, FBI.

I mean, did you hear about the American Dental Association coming out a year and a half ago and saying, don't give babies fluoride water? Right. Because they're getting plenty of it. They're getting plenty of it as it is. And you've got to be very careful. Now, if you're saying that they use waste material

to produce fluoride, I wouldn't be surprised. But the same token, I can take water from your toilet. After you flush, I can reduce pure water. And you might say, hey, I'm drinking sewage here. No, you drink a pure water. It's just a process manufactured, et cetera. So I like that what they use to make fluoride. And there are people in America that get too much fluoride.

You see the little white spots on kids' front teeth. Rod holes. And that often can come from fluoride. Well, you've got fluorosis. Well, there's this big Harvard situation where the graduate doctor did the report about increased the type of bone cancer. But that's not a new debate.

I've seen a bunch of mainline university studies from China to Japan to England, where it causes massive increases in that type of cancer in boys. Now, wait a second. Massive increases. You've got to be careful with that in terms of implying cause and effect, because it might seem so.

But to my knowledge. Doubling, tripling, depending on the study. Yeah. Well, I doubt it. How's that? But if you have those in front of you, I have them there. But excess amount. Now, listen.

When you start doing studies, here's something. Here's something the pharmaceutical companies do all the time. Let's suppose I have a drug, and I'm putting it on the market. And I do eight studies in a row to find this drug's a piece of crap. And it's causing side effects and killing people.

And then the eighth and the ninth study finds we tweak the study right. Find out, hey, this is a great drug and doesn't cause side effects. What do you think is going to get published? So you've got to be very, very careful in that you look at. And this is what's difficult. The entire body of the literature.

There are people in America today that membership is 650 who still believe the earth is flat. But they do their studies to produce it. I would not offer that as evidence. I would not say it's a controversy. With 99.99% of scientists believe one thing. I want a hug from you, Dr. Dina Dowd. Why is it in America we want to go?

Because we love the underdogging. If we want to go with a 0.01%. Dr. Dean, you're doing what the big, and that's pushing the big governments and banks are doing, pushing for a global carbon tax while ignoring all the real toxic waste and the rest of it. They say every scientist agrees with man-made global warming when that's actually not the truth.

It's the opposite. The vast majority believe it's not man-made. It's the sun cycle. And so you're saying everybody, they all know that. I'll put it to another way. Tell me the last time that you saw in the history of science, because I know the few examples here, when you saw that 0.1% of scientists turn out to be right.

And if they turned out to be right, by the way, they proved their case. But it isn't 0.1% that believe that sodium chloride. Tell me the last time the iconoclast turned out to be right. Wow. Alex has no answer. But you also noticed there he moved the goalposts. When was the last time an iconoclast turned out to be right?

I'm not sure. But you understand like he moved the goalpost there. Right. He was talking about fluoride and all that. Right. You're one of these guys who's pushing carbon tax. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Well, it's like, all right. How do we have a logical conversation when you just keep moving everything around? Right. You're like, well, OK, that's a whole new conversation. What the fuck? Yeah. Man, this guy is killing it.

Anytime you're right. Alex would never do this now. Anytime you're right to somebody who doesn't want to admit you're right, they're going to change the subject. But in the same way, he's still rolling with it really well. He's rolling with the, like, Alex changing the conversation. Yeah.

He's like, well, all right, now we're talking about this. So then, OK, if you want to do that, let's talk about how dumb you are here. The problem is that now, Alex. How many angles of dumb do you want me to describe you as? Do you want me to come at you over here? Because I got you. You're actually stupid, Alex.

And that's why you're losing. Alex is a million-dollar operation now, man. Yeah. He can't do stuff like this. Like, get owned over and over again by a real doctor on his show. It's pretty hilarious. Because at this point, what he should have done,

if he was smart, what he should have done is be like, Eh! Get out! Get out! Go! Go! That, or he should have, like, Well, we lost our connection with his phone.

He should have re- And Rob do beat the shit out of him. We just lost him. I don't know what happened. Rob do curb stomped him in the alley. But, like, the reality is, like, he should have taken some of this to heart. Like, OK, these are really good points

about why my reasoning is flawed. And I'm going to try and do better in the future. That's not how human beings work. If I were him, I would leave this show feeling like shit. I would leave being like, I blew it. I blew it.

But he doesn't. Nope. And that's, but that's in countless study after study. It is always like, Hey, whenever people are shown to be wrong, they just double the fuck down. And they get angry. Yeah.

That's what people do. You want to believe in your own bullshit. Like, it takes constant reflection and constant vigilance to not get eaten up by your own bullshit. Yeah, self-criticism is very important. Yeah. Now it'll get you killed.

And it won't make you happy. Alex is probably happier lying to himself than we are constantly evaluating ourselves. He's happier when he's singing Highwayman. That's true. So are you. Yeah, totally. Again, Batman to your Joker.

We got one more clip of the doctor and Alex having a little conversation about what have you. And this one's good because like this is really just him trying to lay out like simplistic logical concepts to Alex. He's not going to succeed in this front. And I mean, I'm sure you know, you're a medical doctor at Procedure University

that a lot of our modern sciences were dominated by eugenicists up until 30-something states for sterilization here. And then they went underground with crypto eugenics after World War II. Like, were you aware of that? Yeah, of course. But I kind of don't think it's helpful

to take our past mistakes and condemn the future. I agree with you. These things have been horrible black marks on the history of science. And like the horrible black, listen, you can say America is a horrible, horrible country because of all the horrible things we did. And look at our mistakes and go down

all the bad things we've done internationally and with other countries that are in war and violence and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah in our history. Maybe don't blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that. But you know, so I think you got to be very, very careful when you raise these issues in terms of throwing the baby out with a bathwater. But I'm not saying the whole country is bad.

I'm saying these mad scientists who literally, I mean, that guy Watson at the Human Genome Project at Cold Springs Harbor. He was there when it was eugenics. I read books. Oh, no, he said, I've got terrible racist views. It's all of them, though. I'm telling you.

But for what? Now, don't say all of them. Now, come on. OK, 95% of the captains of modern... Well, 5% is not all. You said all. I'm saying the vast majority of the captains. Well, you know what?

I mean, 50 years ago, almost everybody at the highest levels of science in this country in England and Germany was a raving racist. Everybody knows that. Well, I'd say 50 years ago, most people were. But those are views in America, you know? I'm a child of World War II. And I would say we have it.

We had and still have a problem with all this. Yeah. Motherfucking yeah! Yeah. We have found out of our year of doing this, we have finally found a true hero on the Alex Jones show. This man is everything I have ever wanted to be. I'm going to take a step back because I don't know enough

about him. And there might be some really terrible shit that he's done or advocated for. Yeah, he might want to commit white genocide. No, but I mean, he could. Which means he's on my team. There could be some dark history. I have no idea.

And until I look into it, I'm not willing to totally vouch 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,400 I want to live it. Dan, fucking, don't bring this in, don't bring reality into this. Do you know how, how long, how hard I have wanted a true hero on our Info Wars podcast? It's pretty wild.

This is beautiful. It's pretty wild. This man is patient. Right. He is kind. It's funny. He is enjoying himself. And he is constantly slapping Alex down.

Are you shitting me? Boom. Suck it. I have just heard the man I want my father to be. Jesus, that's a lot. But I mean, in that last clip there, what we saw him explain to Alex is what's known as a composition fallacy.

The idea that individual is indicative of the character of the whole. Right. And Alex is not really willing to, he's not willing to do any of this work. He's not willing to deal with the world reasonably. And I love, I love the idea of this guy just coming in. And Alex could have gotten rid of him at any point.

They went multiple commercial breaks with him. Well, but he had to, he had to find a way. It was like, it was like if you're bombing, if you're bombing, you still want to try and go out on a laugh. Like he wants to try and go out on a win. On a gotcha. Yeah, exactly.

And it never comes. Of course not. And he has no chance. You saw while he was singing along to the highway man, and he, Alex was doing his introductions, he made it, he made it seem like, let's see if he shows up. Yeah.

That's sort of like, I'm going to get him. Yeah. And then that is, that's pathetic. He just fucking, and I don't want to, I don't want to treat it like, I don't like treating arguments as though there's a winner and a loser. Right.

Like the whole point, like when you and I argue about things, it's not about trying to win. Well, I feel, I feel, I don't feel great. I do. I like to, I like to learn to, I love being wrong. Like when you're wrong, just like he was saying, when the iconoclast is right. I feel like the loser in our argument

about whether the return to innocence was a good song. Yeah. Well, you, you are, but, but like when he's, what, what he's talking about is when the iconoclast is right. Science, what he didn't get to finish as was science goes batshit and they love it.

01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:00,520 Everything changes. Right. And. Everything changes. And. It's beautiful.

01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,400 That's the one thing about science that's amazing. And the point that he did make also is that when the iconoclast is right, it's because they have proved it. Yeah. Exactly. And you have an obligation to prove these things. And then it's on you to, you have the obligation to be like, I'm wrong.

This guy proved it. Right. That's the difference there. So that's why I don't like arguments as well. Win or lose thing. I like whenever I'm wrong because then I get to learn a new thing. Like that's crazy. It changes the way that I feel about that.

It's the, uh, it's the lose. Well, Chris getherd model of life. The, uh, no, I mean, like how many of our conversations have ended with me saying, you know what, you're right. And I've changed my opinion on. Well, on the show a bunch. On the show a bunch.

In private. In public, I will admit my failings in private. I'll see you in hell. You scream at me about how I should love Kanye and what 01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:02,120 Look, you should love Kanye. Let's not get into this in this next clip. So we're done with the doctor.

And now this guy named Jeffrey Smith comes onto the show. Um, basically all he's doing is talking about the evils of GMO. Yes. And fair enough to some extent. Disagree. Well, I don't think the GMOs are as dangerous as people like Alex make them out to be, but the GMO companies, the Monsanto's of the world are

absolutely problems. Right. And the idea, well, the problem isn't GMO, then the problem is unilateral monopolies. Right. And patenting genes and that sort of thing, all that stuff is, those are, those are issues. I would argue of capitalism.

Exactly. They're not so much scientific problems. No. This guy comes on and he has a laundry list of these specific examples of people who are investigating GMOs that got screwed over and what have you. And I don't believe any of them. And I didn't have the time to research all of them,

but one of them stuck out to me because it's an argument that Alex will continue to use up till present day. This is another example of the genesis of one of his arguments against GMOs. And I've done it. It was Dr. Dina Dell fucking with him while wearing a fake OT. A fake voice and glasses. Yeah.

Okay. All right. No, it's not. It's the Jeffery Smith. He lists out this. Bad GMOs are bad. He gives a specific example of someone who has been destroyed by the GMO lobby or what have you.

All right. And Margaret Sanger. Nope. Now, let's give another example. Irina Irmikova, I interviewed her at the EU Parliament after we gave a presentation there. She had documented a piece of paper. She came back to her office one day

and a piece of paper was burnt on her desk, kind of as a warning. Some of her samples had been stolen. That's apocryphal. She was told by her director to no longer do research on genetically engineered foods. She was attacked viciously in a published peer-reviewed journal that had lied to her telling her that she was going to be

authoring an article about her research. And it turns out they just wanted to set her up. So what was her crime? Well, her crime was discovering that rats that were fed genetically engineered soybeans, that the offspring died at more than 50% compared to the offspring of rats that were fed regular soy, and only died at about 10%. She also found that the size of the offspring

when the mothers were fed GM soy was much smaller and they couldn't reproduce. So this was her crime was simply feeding rats genetically engineered soy that we'd every day and discovering death and problems in the offspring. So this has now been absorbed by Alex Jones as a piece of his narrative about what the globalists want to do to us.

And he uses it to say, studies have shown the GMO, rats who eat GMO die much sooner and are unable to reproduce and they're smaller than normal rats. And that's what the globalists want to do to you. To which I say, okay. He says after three generations that people or rats eating GMO foods are unable to reproduce. That doesn't make sense, nor is it reasonable.

No, and I looked into this a little bit. It's simply not how, it's not possible for that to be a legitimate conclusion of your article or of your study. That means that there are so many other variables that you have absolutely not taken into account. Like, if you do a regression analysis of her study and then any other studies, you would find out

that hers is an anomaly and she's full of shit. Well, actually, there are a bunch of critics. Or you would find out that they're lying about her. Well, a bunch of people, you know, scientists got together and critiqued her study, looked into it and saw if there were any issues. Because she refused to peer review it. Oh, well then fuck her.

She can go fucking fuck herself. She just went around spouting the findings. Irina Ermikova. That's not how that works. Emma Kova, not Irma Kova. So there was an article in natural biotechnology where they tried to get to the bottom of a number of her claims.

Oh, I've read natural biotechnology. So it goes, I gotta, it's at my dentist's office every. You know how popular natural biotechnology is? Very. You can't avoid, every time I go to Walgreens, I'm trying to buy cigarettes. Natural biotechnology, everywhere. It is the most famous magazine I can think of.

There's no magazine, more noticeable. Frankly, it's fucking inescapable how popular natural biotechnics is. Keep going. Anyways, continue. Oh, you got more? Where are we going with? You got more?

I just, I just wanted to say that the thing I read most, more than any book, more than any news source, like have you ever read Google news on every option? Natural biotechnology shows up. There's always an article out. Just gonna play some Candy Crush here. Every single time. I can't even, like the Guardian references

natural biotechnology, the Atlantic, Politico. I got unlimited fish. BBC News, who knows. Very exciting here. Who's gonna reference natural biotechnology? Are we done with this bit? I think we're done. Okay.

I think I've gone as far as I can go. So they interviewed her about her findings in the study. And so they asked her, what was the level of mortality? I read that interview. They asked her, what was the level of mortality of the pups you found in the control and test groups? Her answer. In the first three repeats of the experiments,

up till five times higher mortality was observed in the newly born pups whose mothers had received the GM soy flour supplementation compared with pups from rats receiving GM soy protein isolate, traditional soy and laboratory chow, which are the control groups. Pups from rats that had been fed a GM soy diet died mostly during the three weeks following birth,

blah, blah, blah. She goes on to give a couple examples and there's also tables provided. So the critics looking over this and trying, they looked over all the tables, all the information. And here was the assessment. Because this is groundbreaking stuff. It's true.

Right. And here's the assessment that they came away with. Pup mortality is usually reported at day zero or day one and day 21. The timing and causes of deaths are not reported. The data in tables one and two, which she provided, show that 8.1% of pups died in the control group. The typical mean pups survival observed for with star rats

is greater than 99% plus or minus two at day one and 99.5% plus minus one at day 21. The abnormally high incidence of pup mortality in the controls indicates poor animal stewardship, possibly arising from poor animal husbandry and or dietary deficiencies. No valid scientific conclusions can be based on a study with such poor performance

in the control group. Table one also reports 10% mortality on conventional soy. No conclusions should be drawn from a study in which the conventional soy control mortality is 10 fold higher than normally observed for with star rats. OK. So that's the first problem. So the first criticism of this study

is you killed rats who don't die. Right, right. Or whatever the case is, whatever the conditions were, you had substantially higher death rates in the control group. Yeah, in the control group, which gives a shit about it. So the baseline of your control group is unacceptable for science based on every other control group that died.

If there's 1,000 other control groups with 99% survival rates and you have 80, you're the one who's wrong before we begin. Right, so then they asked her about the claims that she was making about the weight of the GMO ones being lower weight. Yes. And then so she found that the weights of pups

for mothers fed GM soy supplement were lower than those of pups from rats of the positive control group or from the conventional soy flower supplemented group. You found that 33% of pups in the rats fed GM soy had smaller sizes and lower weights than the controls. So the critics said animal weights are normally recorded for individual animals in a litter and then averaged as mean for females

and mean for males to account for gender differences. Table three does not separate the two. Table three fucking stupid. Table three does not segregate animals by gender despite the likelihood of males being approximately 2% larger than females at this age. More importantly, under carefully controlled conditions, 14 day pup weight is approximately 38 grams

plus or minus three grams will vary by no more than plus or minus 10%. The data in table three are presented in an unconventional manner that makes it difficult to determine the exact mean and standard derivation among groups. Table three states that 53% of control pups are below 30 grams, which is abnormally small

for two week old with star rat pups. More than 90% of rat pups fed conventional soy are more than 20% below normal weight. GM soy, 79% below normal weight and GM soy protein isolate fed pup, 78% below normal weight fared somewhat better. The wide variance in data in table three and the high percentage of low weight animals

are clear indicators of malnutrition and or poor environmental conditions. No conclusion can be made about abnormal development unless the controls can form to internationally observed norms. Do you know why there's no greater own than a science own? Because it's.

Because it's unequivocal. Right. Like any time you see a spat in a scientific journal where so many people are like, okay, here's why you're wrong. It's always the most thorough. It's specific. Examination line by line

of why everything you did was wrong. And there's no way around it. Where if you even try and come back with it, you're just gonna be like, yeah, well, I saw the sun that day. Like you've got nothing. Well, they're basically just saying like, okay, this is why your process was wrong.

Right. And so you should probably redo it because you didn't follow the standards that would get rid of different variables that could be affecting the outcome. Exactly. So in Japan, a bunch of people got together and they did a study in 2007, which is the same year.

Oh, they kind of peer reviewed it? Yeah. And this is 2007. So Alex should know this and Jeffrey Smith, his guest should know this. You'd think. This is in the scholarship at the time that he's going on Alex Jones' show

and touting this as an example of groundbreaking studies. He doesn't know about this. They didn't just do a short-term study like she did. They did a 52 week study. They did an entire year. What? And they follow. They have that kind of time in Japan?

And they followed the guidelines of control groups and standardization. Right. I won't bore you with their entire findings, but I'll just read the line number one. That dumb lady is dumb. Gross necropsy findings, hematological and serum, serum biochemical parameters,

organ weights and pathological findings showed no meaningful difference between rats fed the GM and non GM soybeans. These results indicate that long-term intake of genetically modified soybeans at a rate of 30% in a diet has no apparent adverse effects in rats. So, yeah, cause duh. So his guest should fucking know that.

Yeah, but that's not, like I'm not gonna put it on his guest. Oh yeah, he's a propagandist. No, I mean, he's a propagandist. But yes, I mean the non use of that knowledge. Cause it's not like he's alone or unique in that. You know, like his guest is doing what those assholes do. His guest is someone who's business it is

to know about GMO issues. His guest is coming on to discuss these GM issues. His guest is somebody who's business it is to lie about GMOs. That's more the point. Like, but that's like any kind of, you're running game. Look, you're a con man, you're conning. The difference is I'm responding to what I expect.

Right, right. I expect standards. You're expecting an idealistic viewpoint that will never come to pass and these liars are always gonna exist and what we need to do is kill all the dumb people, eugenics forever. That's not the argument I'm making.

Wait, what? Isn't that what? No, that's not what you were saying? No, the argument that I'm making is that even dating back to 2008, it's very clear that the guests that he has on with the exception of Dr. Dina Dell. Who is my new father?

His guests are still propagandists. There's still people who are coming on with an agenda that doesn't match reality. Right. And that's it. I mean, that's interesting to me because one of the most important things I think with going back into the past.

I already told you at this one. I don't care. Just things I've told you. Was it because of the natural biotechnics riff? Was it that one? No, no. Are you sure it wasn't? Someone on the chat room just asked,

are Dan and Jordan friends outside of the podcast? That's a good question. We'll see if we go get a drink after the show. So, Jordan. We spent 90% of our time together. I'd hope we're friends at this point. So, at this point in history, 2008, Alex Jones, as far as I can tell,

isn't selling young Jevity even yet. He hasn't gotten into the game that he plays now with. How about the pants? How about the random pants? I didn't hear a diamond gusset commercial on this episode, but we'll see. I will keep you posted. Disappointing.

But he started selling some supplements, but he's not selling them. He's advertising for them. So, it's still a third party there. They're not his. Yeah. I was actually about to say, what is he selling at this point in time

that these con men would come on? The ads are shockingly all for his documentaries. He has ads for loose change, ads for end game, and stuff like that. Most of the commercials are about his documentaries. $25 for a postcard that'll get you out of jail. Well, and just like soap, soap is good. But the commercials that he plays,

because these aren't episodes with the commercials cut out, most of them are kind of like, this is local radio commercials. We've seen his contract in present day, and we know the breakdown of time that he gets for stuff. I think it's possible that back then, he didn't have much time.

And so, a lot of these commercials that are on there are for GCN affiliates or something like that. So, Genesis Communications has a soap person who's an advertiser and just like fucking throw it on Alex. Right. Because he's not getting massive ratings in 2008. He's big, but he's not huge. So anyway, the reason I brought up the supplement thing

is he says something on this episode that is particularly weird, considering what we know about the future. Okay. Alloys, colon, and body cleans. They don't make any extraordinary claims. It just cleans out your guts and is a detoxifier. And it's very important.

It doesn't make you sprout wings and fly around forever. I want to be clear. I'm not like the other supplement pitchers, and I don't want to be associated with that. Okay, this is just good stuff. Just good stuff. It's just good stuff. He does not want to be associated with his future self.

Yeah, I'm confused. Well, he means like we're not making any wild claims. He sells DNA for us that he says we'll keep your DNA telomeres together in order to make you live longer now. Well, yeah. But I mean, that's just truth. Right, fair enough.

That's just science. Fair enough. You've heard about the telomeres. I have. It is a real thing. No, no, no, I know. I'm specifically, because that's the ends of your DNA that as you age, they continue to degrade.

Yeah, no, no, no, I get what he's saying. But at the same time, he's also right. It's just ironic to me that Alex, in 2008, is like I don't want to be associated with those weird supplement telomeres. Oh, if you only knew, buddy. So at the end of the episode, Bob Chapman comes on, and he's talking a bunch about the economy

and how things are bad. Now, we know from history that things did get pretty bad. This is 2008. Yes. So things got bad. Ah, come on, come on. In this case, it's standard operating procedure for Alex Jones and his guests to say,

house is on fire, shit's about to go down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in this case, they accidentally were right, just because they say it all the time. Right, right, right. But Bob Chapman is on, and I don't care about what he's saying because it's difficult to parse out. Where are we in 2008?

March. We're in March? Okay, so this is pretty much immediately after the massive stimulus package has gone through. As I understand, yes. But the issue is that I don't really care because something more important happens. In the middle of this segment,

where they're talking about the economy being bad and all that. The Berlin Wall fell down? Yes. No, Alex does this. Is that the timeline? Alex does this. Okay, Steve, thank you for the call.

We're gonna come back in the final segment with Bob Chapman, and we're going to take two or three quick final calls. But now, I wanna bring Ted Anderson up. Okay, every economic expert we have on, and then these are all top guys. Heather New York Business School. They had a shadow of stats, and Nobel Prize winners, all of them,

are saying metals, metals, metals. Silver, gold, palladium, platinum. I think you should be diversified. If you've got more money than just for a few coins, get into some of the mining stocks. I'm not gonna advise them. You know, if you want more risk, like Bob was saying, maybe he'll give us some advice.

I know it's in the forecaster. I just support the network that for 12 years has been owned by a little gold company, Ted Anderson. A little gold company. He's been interviewing Bob, I know, for more than a decade. And we're gonna bring Ted up just for a minute or two. Ted, real fast, you've got offers again

that you set the price of this at gold at 1,000 gold. It's been going between 1,005 and 1,013 today. They're trying to suppress it. It's not working. And I know I just got a little bit more silver, a little bit more gold from you. You know, I don't have a lot of money, but I bought a little here, a little there at Bill Job.

Tell folks about the offer you've got today. Of course, Alex. Right now we have the British sovereign coin. It's a real good coin. It's a great coin. So that's a disgraceful ad pivot, but like... Yeah, that one is nowhere near as professional as the shit we say.

Well, I don't know. It's nowhere near as jarring. I guess it's like a regular ad pivot. But because of what we know about Alex and his business model and how he behaves now, we know that what he does is he tries to create an emotional response in people through some narrative and then pivots to an ad.

As if, like, this is what'll make you feel better, that kind of thing. And so having a whole segment with Bob Chapman talking about the economy and it being, you know, there's trouble and all that. And then Ted Anderson swooping in while Alex is vouching for all this idea of like, everyone's saying, metals, metals, metals, all that.

Surprise, we have somebody who sells gold here. Who would've guessed? And also owns oil wells. Yeah. Doesn't talk about that much. That might be important in the future. Here's a bigger question. Uh-huh.

Does Alex hoard gold? Says he buys a little here, a little there. Yeah, but I mean, now I have to ask the question. If Alex... How much gold does Alex have? If Alex doesn't get a discount, he's not buying from Midas Resources. Cause I've done a bunch of research into their markups

and stuff like that. People, like if can, they've constantly taken them to court. And so like, there's a reason beyond what actually ended up getting Ted Anderson's buoyant license stripped. Like he got, he got taken to court a number of times cause people were suing him for overpricing.

Yeah. You go to the ripoff report, there's a, you know, complaints filed there. The Better Business Bureau has a bunch of complaints. And the Better Business Bureau is a lie. They're a scam. I'm not joking. It's a scam.

It's the globalists. The BBB is actually a scam. Look into it. The BBB is a scam. Well, I would also say that Midas Resources is a scam. And I would say, look into it. I agree with you on that front. I am just saying that separate from the BBB,

or separate from the GCN situation, the BBB is also a scam. I'm working on a large piece about Midas Resources and what have you through some, some documents that I've found from, that got foiled. And there's some court documents that are pretty interesting about Ted Anderson's past

and the business model of Midas Resources. And we'll get into that. Which is, hey, hey, hey, fuck bitches every day, right? More or less. Well, that's his operating procedure. Right, right, right. So we have one more clip here and this is what ends up happening with Ted's appearance.

Oh, Ted. And there's a lot more people too, Bob. And we're talking about the same supply that's finite. You're talking about walking liberty haves and they stopped making those in the 1940s. Yeah, let's be clear. The supply is already running out of a lot of this. By running out, the price is exploding.

Getting these in their spot is running out. He's got great deals on gold, silver, 800, 686, 2237. I love doing this. I love plugging something I believe in. I love plugging something that's a good deal. Do you hurt the New World Order folks when you move out of dollars? The whole world's moving out.

That's our boy. They don't take dollars to talk about. That's our boy right there. They don't take them in Brazil. They don't take them in, they're dumping it everywhere. 800, 686, 2237. They don't. 800, 686, 2237.

The brokers are there right now. Get silver, get gold, 800, 686, 2237. Don't wait, 1-800, 686, 2237. It's only going up. Thank you, Ted. Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex. Final segment with Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster.com.

Thanks for having me on, Alex. The guy who I own. Yeah, exactly. Thank you so much for bringing me on contractually, like you have to do all the time. So this kind of brings us full circle to the beginning of things. And that is 10 years ago and today,

Alex Jones in both iterations is an incredibly desperate man. He's a desperate man right now to provide cover and distraction for something. Who knows exactly what? I don't know, probably crimes. Probably. Regarding the investigation with Mueller

and you go back to 2008 and he's not a star back then. He's not big time. He's probably at this point broadcasting out of a very small studio. He's not the glamour puss that he is now. Nope. Roger Stone isn't involved, so we don't even care. He doesn't, I mean, he doesn't get the supplement stuff

with Dr. Group going until like 2013. Yeah. And so at this point, all he is, all he's got. Is a gold shell. Mm-hmm. And he's desperate to appease Ted Anderson. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I would say he's probably more desperate now.

I think he's just a... I'm saying he's desperate in both cases. I'm not saying which one is more. Yeah, I mean, I think he's more obsequious now as opposed to being an aggressive apologist. Fair. Okay. Here's a question that you just raised up in my mind.

Raise up B. Pablo. So he is, we know he's desperately obfuscating and lying and distracting from the Mueller investigation. But I think it's possible that it's not even that that's primarily motivating him. I think that there's a decent chance to some extent that what he's distracting from is how unimportant he is compared to the internet.

Okay. Okay. I think that there's a part of it that is ego driven or at least the maniacalness of it. Well, of course, it's Alex, where we're gonna get to ego driven sooner or later. He's distracting from the fact that he's not as important as QAnon or a Reddit board or 4chan or something like that.

That could be part of it. Maybe it's not the whole thing. But I don't know, I don't know. I mean, more in the general sense of like, Alex doesn't actually know anything, right? Like Alex can't have any kind of insider information on that, except from Roger Stone and as we know, Roger Stone isn't gonna tell him the truth.

Why would he do that? He's living his best life. William Binney is one of his big sources and he said that that was the memo. Right. I mean. So the only reason that he is working so hard is just because he's in the Trump camp.

Like that's really it, right? No. I don't think it's it, but I think it's a part of it. I think there's a holistic thing going on. And that's a part of it. The Trump camp is a part of it. The ego is a part of it. I think that he recognizes on some subconscious level,

whether he's willing to admit it or not, that most of his traffic spike that he experienced at the beginning of 2016 was due to bots. Bullshit, yeah. And he's worried about what. And it's disappeared. He's also worried about what might be uncovered and the connections that he had

that might be implied because of it. And then I think there's probably even a fourth thing. I think there's probably something that we don't even understand. You know, there's probably something that that's hidden from sight a little bit. Right. And who knows what that thing is?

I don't know. We can't speculate. We're not Alex Jones. I don't have fake sources, but I know that it will come to bear eventually. New plan. We fly to Austin. We stand outside of Alex Jones' studio.

Okay. All right. Boom box over our heads. Right. I think that would lure him out. I think it would. I think it's possible. I think it would do it.

Yeah, maybe. And then we just have a good old fashioned sing along with him. Like let's not even fight war. Let's fight peace. Like legitimately. You and me are gonna have a sing along with Alex Jones to the highway man.

If he and I. And then we'll stab him. If he and I were at a bar, let's say, like a rodeo, a honky tonk bar. Okay. And we didn't get into politics or anything like that. There's a decent chance we could get along. Wouldn't you guys explode into each other

the moment you touched like matter and anti-matter? Like you're, you're never. I wouldn't touch him. Like if you guys, if you guys ever got close and just touched fingers, the, like it would be a hundred percent energy explosion. Right? No, I don't think so.

I think, first of all, again, I wouldn't touch him. But then. Second, I don't. What do you think he feels like when you touch him? I think he feels bad. But like I would, I want to, I want to walk my statement back a little bit. I don't think we could get along now,

but 10 years ago. 10 years ago. You think you could chill? I think, I think as long as we avoid, like you know how sometimes when you're with, you know, family or in-laws or whatever, and you got to just not talk about certain things. If we applied those same rules to race,

politics, religion, society. Everything you're interested in. Everything but highway men. We could probably have a pretty good time. Right. So. I don't know. I'd be interested to find out.

Yeah. Well, too bad we don't have a time machine. But we do have a website that people can go to. Glad that wasn't a spittake. No wine spittakes on the show. People can go to our website, Knowledge Fight.com. Absolutely. You've, you've just posted a massive thing about Breitbart and I've posted a far less massive thing

about how depressed the world is. Equally important. Yeah, sure. And it's a, it's a very good website. We both write for it. There's a lot of content up there. A lot of important research. You can also follow us on Twitter

at Knowledge underscore fight. On Facebook. You can do it there. We just got a lovely review from an Australian fan. Cat, I believe. Thank you so much. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much. If you guys want to leave reviews again,

I think it probably helps. Yeah. I got to assume. I don't know. It makes us feel better. Sure. We like feeling good. Yeah, absolutely.

I just wrote a thing about how depressed the world is. No. Yeah, you can do that. You can listen to us on iTunes. You can leave a review there as well. True, true. Also, if you're listening live and you're watching on Twitch, there's an after party stream over on far out channel

at far out rhymes. I believe Nikki gifts and him are going to be doing some shit. Excellent. It'll be a super fun. But hey, In the meantime, Dan, I think it's, I think it's your turn. Like who's, who's getting you?

I mean, there's no, there's no doubt in my mind about this. Yeah. 100% Trey Gowdy. Fuck. Trey Gowdy. Go fucking fuck yourself. Fuck yourself. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. I love you.