Knowledge Fight - #125: Project Camelot's War In Heaven

Episode Date: January 31, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan need to take a break from talking about Alex Jones, so they descend into the deep, murky waters of Project Camelot. In this installment, they break down an interview between Kerr...y Cassidy and a remote viewer named Courtney Brown about a war in heaven. Also, the gents learn about Courtney's incredibly troubling past.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. That is indeed what we do, Dan.
Starting point is 00:00:17 How are you today, sir? Oh, I'm doing just fantastic. We are drinking Goats on... Goats Do Rome tonight. Which is a very interesting and accidentally fitting wine for us to be drinking this evening as we record this podcast. It's my favorite porn movie from the 80s. That's for sure. So generally speaking, this podcast is about how I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And that's generally how we do things. Today, before we get going, I would like to start things off by being all business and give a couple of shout-outs to our new donors. Nice. Nicely done. Thank you. I'd like to give a shout-out to Rice, who has joined up with the show. We really appreciate it. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much, Rice.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Thank you very much, Rice. I don't know if it's pronounced Rice. I've never actually... R-H-Y-S. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's the New Zealander Rice Darby, who is a very, very funny comedian and actor and writer and all that stuff. We have so many celebrities giving to the show. I don't know. I don't know. All of these great celebrities. We appreciate it. Also, like, give a shout-out to our buddy Jeff Wood.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Bumped it up, became a foreign policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home, give them a hug, and tell it you're brilliant. Thank you so much. Fantastic. We appreciate it. Guys, guess what? What? We're in a situation where I need to give a little bit of an update.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Oh, no. So, at the beginning of January, I made an announcement that if we bumped up the donations, $100 within the month, you know, bumping it up on a regular basis, you know, it's $100 of recurring donations. Right, right. Monthly sponsorship, as it were, that we would begin doing a breakdown of Alex Jones' film Endgame,
Starting point is 00:01:55 and that we would put out the episode starting in February. Yeah, we're going to do a 36-hour live stream, right? This is a money bomb. Basically, yes. This is what this is. It's going to end up in that problem. So, the report that we have now, because this is going to be our last episode in January, probably.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Can we inevitably become what we hate, Dan? No, no. Can we get into it before you continue? Can we get into the larger philosophical issue? No. Okay. So, at this point, this is going to be our last episode in January. And we've made it 85% of the way to the goal.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And here's where I'm at. There's no damn way that we can make that kind of progress and then be like, yeah, we're $15 short. Of course. That's an asshole thing to do. Dude, if we, guys, as much as I love you, and thank you so much for donating. Yeah. Chances are, if we had gotten like $15, Dan would have been like,
Starting point is 00:02:46 yeah, we're fucking doing it, man. We can't disappoint the listeners. Of course not. So, even though we- We have a responsibility to those who gave that $15 to do a fucking good job. That's what I believe in. And so, in celebration of the people who have been so nice to donate and all that, and with the understanding that people will continue to donate as things go along and all that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Or they'll all cancel it. And hey, man, that shit happens. Then I'm gonna be bummed out. Yeah, that would be a bummer. It would be a j- We would take those episodes off the internet. I think that's what we would have to do, right? It would be such a dick move for me to say like, nah, didn't make the goal, fuck y'all.
Starting point is 00:03:21 So, we will be doing that anyway. Of course. Of course. And we have to figure out exactly what the structure is going to be. And because we didn't hit that goal, we might end up putting the first one out in the middle of February. But it will be- So, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:37 We get to play by our own rules. We're gonna do it, kids. But there is going to be a punishment for not making it all the way to- Not a punishment, but just means we get to play by our own rules. So, those are coming, and I appreciate it. Anyway, Jordan, in recognition of the fact that, you know, we're back in the past in 2008, listening to Alex Jones' episodes, and now I've got a whole bunch of end game. I've got to be breaking down.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You're gonna have to work very hard, and thankfully- Well, I- Thankfully, none of that will be on my shoulders. None. Zero percent of watching that move. And I realized that like, you know, before we jump into that deep water, I realized that I need a break, and that the audience needs a break from Alex Jones. So, here's a clip of what we're going to be covering today.
Starting point is 00:04:22 No! It's really easy to blow off a planet. For example, Earth. Did you hear what he just said? Did you hear what that man just said? I don't care! I don't need to know. Play it again.
Starting point is 00:04:34 It's really easy to blow off a planet. For example, Earth. For example, Earth. Yes. We are, ladies and gentlemen, doing a Project Camelot episode today. I mean, turn it up. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah, you're- Okay, guys, so you know, pre-show, Jordan said, turn my headphones down. That's because the music was insanely loud. It wasn't that loud. But now that I know we're Project Camelotting, I want it blaring in my ears. You want to fully hear this shit. I want it all over the place.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So, I was- I've been- I keep my finger on the pulse of Project Camelot. I- Of course. I check in from time to time to see if there's- If Mark Richards has a repeat of this- Repeat of periods.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Who doesn't keep a pulse on Project Camelot? That's a great- That's a great question. Yeah. So, I generally find stuff that's like, who gives a shit? Right. You know, like- Rare.
Starting point is 00:05:23 There'll be weird interviews and like, I don't care. I'm not even going to listen to this two hours of nonsense, but I saw one that I was like, oh, we got to get into this. There is a gentleman by the name of Courtney Brown, and he comes on the show and they talk about the war in heaven. Yes! Yes! So, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:05:44 Is there a literal heaven? Okay, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. I want to know. I want to know. Let's start off as the interview starts out with Kerry Cassidy, our friend. Our beautiful Kerry Callahan. Probably more anti-Semitic than we want to think.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Don't talk about it. Giving an introduction to the show. Hi, everyone. I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I'm here tonight with Courtney Brown, and we're going to be talking about his team's remote viewing of a phrase from the Bible called War in Heaven, and this should be a really fascinating show.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm going to bring Courtney on the screen here with me, and Courtney, say hello to everyone. Hi, everyone. I'm glad to be here. Thanks for having me here. You're welcome. So, Jordan, you have a- Did she just say remote viewing?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And coupled that with the phrase a war in heaven. Yes. So, these guys are going to be remote viewing. Like, they're going to any where office in. They're going to do a conference call with the war in heaven. What do you know about remote viewing?
Starting point is 00:06:52 I know nothing about remote viewing. I do not know everything about it, but I do know that it's not real. Okay. All right, all right. No, no, you're right. I should have caveatted that. I know that much.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We'll get into that a little bit more as the episode goes along, because he gets into some of the specifics of it and what have you. And I can't stress enough. You have no idea where this is going. This is going to be one of the more fucked up episodes that we've ever gone over. Okay. And unintentionally so.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Carrie Cassidy has no idea either what she's doing. Okay. As she never does. Right. But I don't want to give away too much too early. So let's get into this next clip where Courtney Brown gives a explanation of what he does. He face times heaven. Basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So he introduces his whole shit in this next clip. What I'd like to do in this case, I do think a lot of people will know who you are, but give yourself a brief introduction. And then we'll just launch into the premise of your remote viewing of the war in heaven and perhaps introduce the various of viewers that were involved. Also, he's going to make reference to people who are the remote viewers. One of them is named Aziz. One of them, I can't remember her name, but it's a normal name.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And then another one is named Princess. So don't be distracted by him referencing Princess when it comes up because he will. So is the premise to remote viewing a two fireman or butt fucking in a smoke filled room? What does that mean? That's an old John Fox joke. Oh, I thought that was. It's one of my favorites. It's such an awful joke.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I thought it was like the lazy dog jumps over the sleeping fox typing test. Two firefighters are butt fucking. No, that's that's my warm. That's my vocal warm up before I do. That's your domain. Joe Raimi fossil. Lots of fucking. So anyway, back to back to Courtney.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Okay, sure. Well, I'm Courtney Brown, as you know, and I'm the director of the Farsight Institute. And the Farsight Institute is a nonprofit. And we are the largest, biggest venue of public, fully, you know, fully open public projects for remote viewing in anywhere. And so what we do is we use remote viewing, which is a mental procedure that was developed originally by the United States intelligence services, the US Army military to use for espionage purposes.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And we're civilian and we use procedures that are derivative of those original military procedures and we use them for exploration and scientific experiments. We have a huge number of projects that we've done on our end available to see on our website, farsight.org, F-A-R-S-I-G-H-T, like seeing far.org or G. And most of everything that we have up there is for free. Some premium projects are sold as movies. But what are they about? Well, I went to Farsight.org and if you go, you can find a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like and like this guy has done. I mean, if if what he was doing was real, he's doing the Lord's work. Oh, yeah. Is he working really hard? He remote viewed back into Hitler's mind back when he was giving speeches. That's a great fucking idea. He figured out 9-11. He's figured out what happened with the JFK assassination. He solved the mystery of Martin Luther King, Roswell, Area 51, the Tunguska explosion,
Starting point is 00:10:31 the Giza pyramids. He's solved the mysteries of multiple universes. He's figured out climate change, Atlantis also. He's done that. Throw that one in there. Yeah, all those. We got real problems. We got fake problems.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Toss them all in there. It's very, very impressive stuff. Were it real? He's figured out 9-11. Absolutely. Can you give me an idea of what he's doing? That one's behind the paywall. Of course it is.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Of course it is. I watched a bunch. It's released as a movie. I watched a bunch of the videos that are free and they're the most ridiculous things ever. Okay. It's someone standing at a dry erase board usually in front of a green screen. Perfect. And so the green screen will have some cool image behind it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm already sold. And there's someone at a dry erase board being like, I see sand. Lots of sand. Like, oh, that. Trust it. Trust it. Ding, ding, ding. Nailed it.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So in that clip there, you heard him say, though, that we use government CIA approved techniques. Right. Or whatever. In another interview I heard with him, he was complaining that the CIA and the government weren't using this remote viewing technology correctly. That's right. Exactly. If he's figured out all of that shit with only civilian funds behind a paywall,
Starting point is 00:11:45 then imagine what DARPA could do with this groundbreaking revolutionary technology that allows you to see inside the mind of Hitler while giving a speech. In the past, no less. In the past. It's basically time travel. Yes, it's time travel. So what he's referring to is this thing called Project Stargate, sometimes referred to as Operation Stargate.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Kurt Russell was in that, right? Absolutely. Yeah. It's the umbrella name of a series of secret projects back from the 70s and 80s that the government was doing to look into remote viewing and psychics. That crazy government. And the reason they were doing that is because there were rumors flying around that Russia was doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And they needed to keep up, lest the Russians have a remote viewing leg up. Lest the Russians figure out psychics. Right. And they have a psychic advantage over us. How? Okay. And so the project ended up being discontinued in the 90s because of like. On account of dumbness?
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yes. 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Because we're not getting any goddamn results out of this. This is absurd. Why do we keep doing this? So that's the government aspect that he's talking about. Is that the John Ronson, they stare at goats? The men who stare at goats.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yes. A movie was made about that. Well, he wrote a book first. It wasn't. Right. Right. Yeah. And so the other piece of it is like people have tried constantly to provide empirical
Starting point is 00:13:04 evidence that remote viewing is possible. And every time they do so, the remote viewer will give incredibly vague suggestions of like I see a tree, stuff like that. And then if you want to believe it, you'll go ahead and be like, oh, that's proof. That's proof enough for me. But it's the thinnest shit ever. It's not a real thing that people can control. It's a psychic.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's the psychic going, I'm seeing somebody with the letter M in your life. You know, that kind of thing. And then you just fill in the blanks. But I am painting a picture intentionally. Yes. Where these people are just like sort of making it up. They're goofy. They're goofy cats.
Starting point is 00:13:42 They're just standing in front of a dry erase board making shit up. Basically doing an improv game. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what you should be saying. But Courtney Brown wants to tell you something else. What's that?
Starting point is 00:13:53 He wants to tell you about the rigorous training that his remote viewers go through. Listen to this. All right. Typically the training for people who do training at Farsight, the training just the beginning training takes nine months. And that's twice a week all day for nine months without a break. So you're talking about between 16 and 20 hours of work every week for nine months straight and asking for anybody in the world.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Well, real quick, while you're screaming, no, no, no, hold on. Hold the fuck. No, hold on. While you're screaming about crazy and like that's nonsense and who would do this? You would. No, I would. You specifically. No, I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:33 You do what you do. Yeah, that's a fair point. All right, I'm going to do it. There was a place in Columbia, Missouri where I spent a large portion of my life called the School of Metaphysics. And it was this non-accredited school that someone had set up. And you'd have to do really rigorous training. I know this because a friend of mine got duped by them and spent tons and tons of money
Starting point is 00:14:56 trying to come up the ranks, Scientology style. And they would have similar things where you'd have these long sessions where you'd need to like go through, go over all this stuff. And it's a classical technique of breaking people's will. Yeah. But it's a, it's not. It's cult behavior. It's cult program.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's not an aggressive technique in terms of like sleep deprivation and playing loud music and sicking dogs on you. But it is a way of like letting your guard down in a slightly friendly or supposed academic way in order to rebuild you in the mold that they want you to be in. It's just like base camp or base camp, a boot camp. Sure. Yeah. It's just like, it's just like that.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So when he's describing this, it's like, okay. It's the school of hard knocks to the mind. Well, the first time that I heard this, like when he's describing this, Mike, first of all, that's a lot. But then my second thought immediately was like, oh, all you're doing is pre-selecting that the people who come out of that training are going to be the people who are crazy enough to have gone through it in the first place. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And that way your organization will never be infiltrated with naysayers. You'll never have people who are involved who are like, Hey, maybe I'm not actually doing anything. Says who? Me. No. Anyway, back to, back to. New, new knowledge fight goal for 2018.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Infiltrate VZ. The Farsight Academy. Of course. Also get them to change the name too close to. I originally thought it was called Farside. And I was like, okay. We spelled it the pH. That's, that's perfectly fine.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Booty Brown is one of the professors. If you want to study that, that's fine. Trey and Booty Brown are the adjunct professors. All of their classes are just single panel. Fat lip got kicked out of the university. Oh, that poor bastard. Yeah. Anyway, back to the clip.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We learned more about the, the rigorous training. Well, even though they exist. So, and then they start appearing in our time cross project, which is a predictive news show that comes out once a month. I hate it when they do that. So the next. I hate it when they appear in their predictive television show. The next step that they make is they end up in this time.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Chronicle or whatever. I forgot the name that he literally just said, but I can just look at the website. I fucking forget. Oh, here it is. The time cross project. I watched a couple episodes of this as well. What it's supposed to be is that.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It takes, you have to, you get, you really get into it in the fifth episode. Like you got to get through the first four, where they're just kind of establishing. Yeah. They're just establishing the characters. And then it's an episode five. It really takes off.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's like what I was describing lost to you. Yes. It was almost exactly like what that was. So what they do at the Farsight Academy or Institute or whatever the fuck. They have a TV show that they put out on YouTube. Where they tell you what next month's news is going to be. This is my favorite thing in the history of the world.
Starting point is 00:17:41 And I watched an episode of it. And it was like one of the predictions was basically there's going to be trouble in a state building or something like that. Right. And then they're like, it's supposed to be in November. And then so they end up.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Do they do? It'd be great if they just have a new show where they're like, uh, yeah, there's going to be a thing. Right. It's going to happen next month. Oh boy. No, it is that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That is what it is. Just off the dome. Yeah. Like it's an improv show. Basically. Yeah. Fantastic. And so, uh, what they do is they do like,
Starting point is 00:18:14 okay, here's what's coming next month. And then when they put out the next month's video, the beginning is this guy, Courtney Brown, having a discussion of the predictions they made the last month. I love this. And interpreting them to be like, oh, this is what they were talking about.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I love this. Yeah, it's crazy. I want it all the time. It's, there's so much you can go watch if you want to. That's fantastic. It's amazing. I'm going to mainline this. So I watched one and like I said,
Starting point is 00:18:37 that prediction of there's trouble in a state house building, some formal thing. It was supposed to be a prediction in November. And so when Courtney Brown, the next month, is giving a explanation, he's like, so I easily figured out what this was because they had such a great drawing. And the lady who was doing the prediction did a drawing
Starting point is 00:18:55 is like, this is clearly Milo Unopolis. And so his, his thing is like, she was predicting Milo Unopolis's trouble on one of those University of California campuses. So we're playing time traveling, Pictionary. Exactly. Fantastic. And so he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:10 that's clearly what they were talking about. Now that event happened on October 31st. And we were looking at November, but what we do is we cover the news. It was reported in the news November 1st. So that's why we covered it. Perfect. It's like, you fucking nailed it.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Too many rules, too many technicalities. Anyway, he has a psychic news show. Fucking love it. And he claims they have a great banning average. They have a great banning average. Almost a thousand by my record. Oh man. So anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:40 The end of the month, that tells what the news will be. And the next month. So rather than watching a normal news show, where you find out what already happened, this is a new show where you find out what's going to happen. Love it. And we're doing the statistical analysis for that now. It's been extremely successful since we started in May of 19, 2016.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And after they do almost a year or about a year of that, then they start working on our mysteries projects, which are big projects that turn into movies. And we have a few mysteries projects, such as the Great Pyramid of Giza and Atlantis, that are available for free. That turned into the Disney movie Atlantis. I'm a guy who loves watching stuff about Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And I will say that this video that I watched of him and his remote viewers talking about Atlantis. Amazing. Perfect. Is one of the worst things I've ever watched about Atlantis. Very lame. Oh, did they get it right though? No.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Oh, by the way, there is no right. And it was a whole bunch of other projects that we've had that are available for free. And then we have some premium projects that we offer as regular movies through Vimeo and Amazon and DVDs and things like that. And the War in Heaven is one of those that just came out. And it's a three hour unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:20:50 They boot like movies for the future. Unbelievable. It's very believable when you see it. And you watch it. No, it's just conceptually. It's so amazing. You think it's just impossible, but it is very possible that we were able to pursue what this is all about.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Sure. Also, it costs 12 bucks to watch. So I wasn't going to pay that. Wait, just to watch it. You don't even get a DVD copy? DVD copies are coming soon. On the website, it says the Amazon link will be updated when they're available.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I swear to God, guys, if you need anybody, Nick Cage will do that movie for 20 bucks in a sandwich. I guarantee that. He did left behind. Of course, he'll do Farsight. So like I said, I'm not paying 12 bucks to watch this thing. Or even if I got to own it,
Starting point is 00:21:40 I still probably wouldn't pay 12 bucks for it. Could you get a signed copy? Yeah, probably. This guy seems like he would do just about anything. So you might be asking yourself at this point, even though we can't watch it, because I'm not, again, not giving this guy any money. Because it's too good.
Starting point is 00:21:53 But we're still wondering what is this war in heaven about? What's going on with that? Oh, I had completely forgotten about that. I was back on why is it that we can time travel? No, don't worry about that. Okay. Can you describe the target, so to speak, how they were given the target,
Starting point is 00:22:10 and what I'm not sure what the objective was, why you chose that particular target? Well, in many cultures, many religions, there are, there's talk, there's written in ancient texts about this big battle that happened among the gods and things like that in heaven. And you get that in the Vedic texts, you get that in the Ramayana and Hindu texts,
Starting point is 00:22:35 you get that in Azillian texts, the Saryan texts that Zechariah Sitchin has looked at. Bring back the Sitch! So Zechariah Sitchin is the ancient aliens. He's the ancient aliens guy. I've read a couple of his books. And he's roundly criticized for not being able to translate the languages.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He's translating like Sumerian. No, he's amazing. And what have you. He's a real bad scholar. No, amazing. But also, to the question of why, why does this warring gods theme seem to run consistently throughout so many cultures,
Starting point is 00:23:08 I would give a much simpler explanation than what he's going to give here in a minute. And that is that, you know, cultures needed an explanation for phenomenon that they couldn't understand. Science, nature, that sort of things. They didn't have ways to do that, so they created gods.
Starting point is 00:23:26 And then they had to come up with a reason why bad things happen. Obviously, it's because these gods aren't working in sync. That is consistent throughout all cultures. The reason that there's trouble is because some gods have petty differences with other gods, and we are pawns that get killed in the mix
Starting point is 00:23:44 as they play out their struggles. That's why. Because you have to explain famine. You have to explain natural disasters. You have to explain those sorts of things. With counter theory. Okay. They're actually right.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Everybody has always known that the gods have been fighting. Right. And we have to figure out a way to stop them from fighting. So what we're going to do, we're going to go back in time to before the gods were fighting.
Starting point is 00:24:07 We need to dry it. We're going to remote view that. Jordan, we need a dry erase board. All right. You've got one right over there. That's true. We're going to remote view it. We're going to, also, Hitler was there.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So we're going to remote view into Hitler before the gods start fighting. I'm assuming it's Hitler's fault. He did something crazy. You know what's crazy about this? Because he worshiped a goddess. Here's the weirdest thing. The Greek pantheon?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Hated the Jews. It's such a weird thing. And I'll tell you why. Hitler. Did you remote view that? Hitler is. Okay. So anyway, back to this.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He was pulled from Athena's ear while Zeus was pulling Athena from his ear. Let's get back to the war in heaven stuff. Where we get too far afield. Into being correct. Yes. We've written an old bunch of books about, you get this idea about the war,
Starting point is 00:24:52 the war, the war, the big war in heaven. And in the Judeo-Christian tradition, you have it both in the Old Testament as well as the New. And the New Testament, the big mention, of course, is in Revelation. And so the book of Revelation, chapter 12 verse 7 says,
Starting point is 00:25:07 And there was a war in heaven. And Michael and his angels fought, and the dragon and his angels fought. So the real question is, first of all, why are all of these different cultures, different religions, different prophets, different everything, separated by hundreds, sometimes thousands of years?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Go ask a religious studies professor. I don't know. They've got nothing to say. Why are they all talking about this? They shouldn't even know each other stuff. Why is everybody talking about this big war in heaven? So the real question was, let's do a remote viewing project.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Where we... That was the real question. That query, that phrase in chapter 12 verse 7 in Revelation, what is this? So that was target Q. So the target Q was whatever the perceptions were of the original prophet who was perceiving this thing
Starting point is 00:25:58 that he later called the war in heaven and wrote the book of Revelation about. And we wanted to find out what that being was... What that prophet was perceiving. And so we got it. So they got it. They got it. They got it.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They wanted to go back and figure out what was going on with John of Patmos as he was trying to write Revelation. All right. So they're going to start a remote viewing query, which I love because that makes it sound like there's a big bureaucracy of like, like there was a pitch meeting where these two low level guys are like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 hold on, pitch. We're going to see what happened with the war on heaven. Blue sky thinking. Yeah. Just throwing that one out there. And they're like, okay, well, we're going to take that up the chain to whether or not heaven is fighting.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Now, if we are going to solve this, what we need is really need to talk to John of Patmos. Oh, shit. He's dead. Whether or not it's the prophet. Right. We're just going to go back and see what that prophet was seeing. We're going to go back and find out, John,
Starting point is 00:26:57 what's your deal? Hey, what's, what's, what's, what's got your crawl? Yeah. So he's going to get into John of Patmos here in a minute. But before he does, he's going to explain some of the results of what they found here. Wait, do they have physical results?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Do they do? It's a whiteboard, isn't it? Well, it's a whiteboard. It's a physical whiteboard. It's a whiteboard. I knew it. Um, and so, but before he does, he makes the claim here at the beginning here
Starting point is 00:27:25 that the viewers, the, the remote viewers didn't communicate with each other and all came up with the same thing. And I don't care that he's saying that because I don't necessarily believe it. No, that sounds true. And further, I'll lay out one of my big critiques at the end of this here real quick.
Starting point is 00:27:42 But let's listen to this clip first. There was no communication between them. And they all got the same thing, this huge space battle between basically two planets. And basically two different species, although there was a couple of other species involved, but there was two primary species in these two planets. And one of the planets blew up.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And it was really like a Star Wars type thing. They got the falling rocks, the lava rocks coming down. Everybody got the same thing. These two opposing, these two opposing forces with spaceships and everything. Yup. And one was an aggressor species that looks sort of reptilian. And the other was more humanoid.
Starting point is 00:28:22 They looked different than us, but very similar, different, but similar to humans. And, and they were battling it out. And the human humanoid species was the underdog. They were the ones getting the bad, they were getting the, they were getting their teeth kicked in. And the aggressor species was the reptilians. And they were nuking the place.
Starting point is 00:28:44 They were, they were nuking the place. They were, they wanted to control the resources. They wanted to control the planet. And it looks like that other, the other planet would have the humanoid types. It looked like us as a last resort, desperate resort. Desperate resort just shot a bomb towards the bigger planet that the reptilians came from.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And they basically destroyed the entire planet. It was a, you know, it was a doomsday, a doomsday Hail Mary type of a situation. So, okay, I'm sorry to interrupt you here, but I'm wondering is, you know, it became clear, I guess partway through the sessions, I think, at least to the viewers that we're talking about Mars. They didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 They had no idea what this project was about. They thought it was the craziest thing that. Yeah, it was pretty crazy. So now we're in Mars. Oh yeah, we're on Mars. All right. Yeah, that's, that's a reveal that is forthcoming. But yes.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Here's the thing that bothers me most about this. Yeah. I think he is just fucking specious. Like he just, he just fucking identifies with the humanoids because they look like us. That's bullshit. The humanoids committed genocide on a planetary scale. They're the bad guys.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Fuck this dude. No, this is an extension. What a goddamn piece of shit. This is an extension of Alex Jones excusing all white terrorism. Yeah, this is fucking insane. Yeah. How dare he?
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yeah, it's pretty crazy how this overlaps a little bit. Oh man. Yeah, this is gonna, it's gonna get worse and more overlaps. But the thing that I want to point out here is that this is all just basically ancient aliens. Like this is the stuff right out of Zachariah Sitchin's books about the planet. I believe it's also Ender's Game if I remember correctly.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I think this is dead on Ender's Game. Yeah. And so the reason that like this idea that the people didn't talk beforehand about what they're gonna say in this, that doesn't charm me because I would gamble everything I own. The people who go through his rigorous nine month process of basically having their brainwashed to some extent
Starting point is 00:30:51 to become one of these remote viewers, I think there's probably an incredibly high incident of people who go through that, who are really into ancient aliens. I think that they might self-select in some ways for people who already know this mythology. Are you saying perhaps the scientific sample isn't sound? In this case, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Are you saying that? I have a hunch. I think they were published in, oh fuck, now I can't remember the name. Foresight? No, the magazine that I rammed the reference from. Natural biotechnology? Natural biotechnology.
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's right. Don't bring that back up. I want to bring it back up because you know me, Dad. So there's a giant. I love natural. Don't do this again. So there's a giant space battle, my friend. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And this planet, which he's going to later call Marduk, is the one that got. Marduk. Marduk. Wow. Also possibly known as Tiamat. Yeah, I was gonna say, do you want to make any more references
Starting point is 00:31:50 to old timey religions? No, I mean, this is 100% out of Sitchin. This is all just, I mean, I've read, like I said, two or three of his books and this is just exactly what Sitchin believes. This is repurposed nonsense from mythology. Right, but now we're gonna get to John of Patmos.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Okay. We're gonna get to some explanations of our religions that we have on earth. Where do they come from? Revelation was pretty weird. What happened? It was pretty weird. What happened?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Let's find out. Fucking Courtney knows. And allegory for the fall of the Roman Empire? No. Oh, okay. You're a fool. You're a fool. I am a fool.
Starting point is 00:32:26 The first target was the original prophet, his perceptions when he was when he was perceiving the so-called war of heaven. What was happening to him? What was he looking at? What was he perceiving when he was getting that? The second target was the actual prophet himself at the time that, not his perceptions,
Starting point is 00:32:46 but at the time that he was receiving this vision, what was going on with him at that time? That was a second target. So we could see like, how was he getting this? Was he just like closing his eyes and imagining this thing? And it turned out to be an alien abduction type thing. So extraterrestrials, this is John of Patmos we're talking about, the author of the book of Revelation.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Patmos is an island and the Aegean. And he basically had extraterrestrials around him and there was one in particular, a big guy, who was force-feeding this stuff into his head and he was doing the best he could. He was not in control of himself. He was doing the best he could to try to sort it out. And when he got it, when the whole experience was over,
Starting point is 00:33:29 he wrote a book of Revelation and that's how we got it. And apparently that's how it got into all these other cultures. Apparently these extraterrestrials wanted humans to know about this thing that happened millions and millions and millions of years ago. So that we would be able to process it. Okay, why? So we could process it. But we wouldn't need to process it if we didn't know about it.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Also that these aliens fucked up, because we're at the brink of nuclear war as it is, even with whatever warning they may have coded into Revelation or some nonsense. Well they fucking sent it to Hawaii and they didn't pay attention. All right, all right, that's my topical reference for the month. All right. I get one.
Starting point is 00:34:12 So I don't know, man. I enjoy this stuff to an extent. Like it's funny because we're not idiots. I love it. You know, like there is an aspect of this that is like, oh man, this is fun storytelling. If you just look at it as that. But like, how am I going to refute that John of Patmos was kidnapped by aliens?
Starting point is 00:34:37 How could you? How's he going to verify it? Do you know why you can't refute it? Because it's true. Yeah, that might be. Because all of the evidence points to alien abduction. I love the way that he hits that, I love the way that he hits that turn too.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Is it like, because it starts with that, with your, you know, like, oh, was he closing his eyes and just imagining? Was he getting a vision? So what you're saying? Nope, turns out it was alien abduction. So what you're saying is he like, sort of rhetorically knocks down the obvious answers
Starting point is 00:35:06 and they're like, nah, nah, nah, nah. Oh yeah. Nah. And he goes, he goes, oh, it's, it's a, it's a, it's not even a zag. It's a Zog. He's Zogs. He goes so far because you're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Well, he's gonna, yeah, yeah. He's gonna, he's gonna slide of hand me. No, all the way. Right. All the fucking way. Speaking of slide of hand stuff, some of this, I don't even, there's a whole long story about this thing called Project Alpha that Randy, the amazing Randy, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:36 the guy who set out to debunk people who were making pseudo scientific claims. From way back when? Yeah. Yeah. He, there was a government program that was trying to get into like using psychics and that shit. And the amazing Randy planted two people within the,
Starting point is 00:35:54 the, the ranks of it who were magicians that he knew. Right. And they went through and completely tricked all of these researchers and then they had a big press conference about like, we are just using tricks. We cheat and it's all nonsense, all of this stuff. And remote viewing was involved in that as well. It's another reason that people should be very skeptical
Starting point is 00:36:15 about these ideas without any. No, there, there's always been those, there's always been those magicians. Yeah. Who, who are amazing magicians and then they're like, okay guys, you're dumb. Yeah. For you, look, you've made me a lot of money, but we gotta stop
Starting point is 00:36:32 this. Also the, one of the cool things is that the, the Randy foundation, I believe that's the name of it. They give out awards. That's not a great name for a foundation because it sounds like they're really horny. They're ready to fuck. So they have a foundation where they give out awards for
Starting point is 00:36:48 people who are, you know, in skeptic communities and make a lot of headway. Right. And they have a special award called the flying pegasus award. Uh-huh. And that's ironic for people who have flown a pegasus. No, it's not fly. It's Pegasus.
Starting point is 00:37:01 It's a flying pig. I get it. And the, the premise of it is, uh, it's an ironic award that's given out for people who are the exact opposite of what they embody. Right, right. It's the, it's the raspberry or the razzies. And Alex Jones won it in 2003.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Of course he did. So there's a fun wrap around there with Alex Jones. Just got to bring him up whenever we can. But Alex was not present during the space battle and we need to learn more about it. Who was? Well, we're going to find out a little bit more about this in the next clip.
Starting point is 00:37:29 So this war in heaven was a war between two species. One was dominantly living on Mars and the other was living, there were a billion group was living on this other planet that often meet with people called Maltec. And that was the planet that is now the asteroid belt that was totally destroyed in the war. And that's the war that the extraterrestrials have apparently wanted us to know about.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And so they seeded the information into our collective consciousness by putting it into our religions. And that was pretty easy to do. You just abduct these prophets and feed them the information. And then they write about it in their checks. And lo and behold, we're, we become slowly aware of it. I still don't understand this plan.
Starting point is 00:38:20 What do you mean? The aliens? Yeah. Simple. What's the, but what's the plan? You're so dumb. It's so simple. But what's the goal?
Starting point is 00:38:26 So you're an alien, right? Yes. You find a prophet that you know is going to write a book that magically is going to make it through the, like the council of Nicaea. It's going to make it into the Bible, into the canonical Bible, as opposed to all the other books that were written contemporaneously and were not put into the Bible.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Well, that's because they were too obvious with the one where Jesus fought raptors. Right. Or the one they called them dragons back then. Or the book of Enoch where they're like, you know, probable actual aliens in them. Right, right, right. But, you know, so you find this guy,
Starting point is 00:38:58 and you know ahead of times you're a fucking alien, that it's going to get into the main book. Yeah. And so what you do. I like the way, because you're a fucking alien. Yeah. So you walk up to him and you're like, wham, wham, wham, wham, wham.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Put your thoughts into his head, like it's a Dana Gould special. No, you gotta, you gotta abduct him. Nah. No, that's what he's saying. He's saying they got abducted. Where did they go? Not though.
Starting point is 00:39:19 We're going to get to it. It's not really an abduction. It's an abduction like scenario where. It's abduction adjacent. He's standing on Patmos and an alien comes over and is like, wha. He's just putting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Putting the thoughts into his head and forcing him. He's going to explain it a little bit more later, but before he does. Okay. We got to get to this next clip, where Courtney Brown makes a weird. Great name, by the way. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Great name. He makes a weird point about the remote viewers. One more thing, Kerry. I really want to, I really want to mention it. For me, it's really important. These are millennials. These are young people. These are not old people that came out of the military
Starting point is 00:39:59 that were, you know, getting ready to retire or die or whatever. At least believe a little part of this. So having young people do these things and having a level of training that is at this level, this huge level is just, it's revolutionary. And it's really, really important for the future of humanity. What did you just say? I love him.
Starting point is 00:40:23 You're going to go on such a roller coaster. I love him. Come on. Listen to him talk about that. Look, I'm just happy that somebody's recognizing, like this is, this is way better than a New York Times article where it's like millennials are killing the wine industry. This dude's writing an article that's like,
Starting point is 00:40:39 millennials are resurrecting the crazy industry. There's two reasons why he's more interested in millennials and why he's saying the things that he's saying. That's why they can't afford wine. They're too busy training to see the past. One of the reasons that he's making this point of millennials, this is the reason he wouldn't say publicly, and that is that they're easier to trick
Starting point is 00:40:59 because they don't have a lot of life experience. Oh, do you mean young people are easier to trick? Younger people are much more impressionable speaking, largely speaking. It's not a one to one ratio, but specifically if you're trying to start a cult, you probably are going to start with young people. Manson didn't start with elderly women, I'll just say that.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But the other thing he's bringing up is he's casting aspersions on people who are in the military and that sort of thing. And this is going to play out because you know who Cary Cassidy's sources generally are. Military. Oh yeah. Ex-military. Fake ex-military. But still respectful of the real military.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Right. So him bringing this up is kind of- Cary's going to push back? It's kind of something that I don't think Cary is thrilled with. So Cary is going to push back. We're going to see Cary push back. Well, let's listen to this next one. I want to see this. This is going to be bananas.
Starting point is 00:41:49 The race on Mars, you know, it is interesting because Project Camelot, one of our most famous interviews is with Bariska, who is a young boy from Russia who had total past life recall of his life as a soldier on Mars. Sounds like a creative boy. And then was in essence ceded back here on Earth after that. The planet was, I guess, decimated.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So the surface of Mars. And this was in a war situation, as he describes. And this was as, you know, he started talking about this when he was very, very young to his mother. And then she, I guess, some journalist heard about it in the community. And then, of course, at least this is how the story goes. And the scientists then started to notice him. And of course, now we can't get ahold of Bariska
Starting point is 00:42:41 because he's probably working for the Russian government. But nonetheless, this is parallel to the information he was giving. Another thing that he came across was they were, they actually were trying to turn Jupiter into a second sun is something he said. That makes sense. Yeah, sure. Whatever. I like the way she said. Granted, generally speaking, stars can become bigger stars.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I don't know about planets becoming stars. Gas giants turn into stars all the time. Is that true? No. Of course not. I don't know enough about the world as a whole. Do you mean the galaxy as a whole? Right. I don't know enough.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I'm not an astrophysicist, but I do know that the sun isn't a planet. I know that. The sun is not a planet. I know that it seems like it would be a weird transition for Jupiter, a planet to make into a star. I don't know, man. I was in a class called Astrology. It was like, I don't think this is the name of it because I think it's a comedian's bit.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Like astrology for poets. Yeah, it's Patton's bit. Yeah, physics for poets. It's exactly that though. It was like astrology for idiots. Is the red planet Mars like the crimson eye of cerebels? I had to take it in college and it was, I still don't know what the professor's name was,
Starting point is 00:44:01 but it sounded like a professor mushroom. That's all I remember about it. It was a wild time. I don't know a lot, but I know that Jupiter is not going to become a sun. No, it's not going to become a sun. I'm confident about that. No matter what you do, Jupiter could not become a sun. That in the universe we inhabit, that's not a possible thing.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Oh, another thing. When I was like nine, I used to tell this friend of mine who I had from the neighborhood. I used to tell him that I was an alien. That you had perfect recall from your past life on Mars as a soldier. Yes. Well, not as a soldier, but I was an alien that I came from another place. Were you a raptor? I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It was a, it was a humanoid planet that I came from. Well, then I'm out. And as a young boy, I accidentally stumbled on to the basic tenets of communism in trying to tell stories to my friend of this planet that I came from, where everything was equal. And that sort of thing, where everyone was taken care of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was making it up.
Starting point is 00:44:57 You wrote your friend Animal Farm. Mostly. Yeah. And I was making it up and a couple years later, I grew out of it and I was like, I should probably stop doing this shit. And that's probably never told your friend. Right. I know he still believes.
Starting point is 00:45:09 No, probably not. But he did move away. So he might never got a chance to be like, I was making that up. He always knew that. I'm doing it now. He knows that alien friend. Sorry. I love the way that she said, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
Starting point is 00:45:22 What I'm saying about all that is that's probably what happened with Bariska. As opposed to he's now working for the Russian government. No, it's definitely what I'm giving a more simple real world, Occam's razor explanation for that. Now, please go ahead. He is working for the Russian government. That is totally possible. And that's how they got into the election of 2016.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He was the only one who saw that people would not shut up about Hillary's emails. There you go. That's why they talked to Robert David Steele. No, Stephanopoulos. Not Stephanopoulos. Stefan Molyneux. No, George Papadopoulos. That's the one.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Okay. Now I feel racist towards Greeks. I don't know. Make your point. Anyways, no, I just love the way that she said, that's how the story goes. As like when describing Bariska's origin story of like, well, he started out as this small boy and he told these stories to his mother
Starting point is 00:46:14 and then a journalist, or that's how the story goes. Like that's the part that she's skeptical of. Right, right. Like, oh, well, this part is apocryphal. The mom's actions. Who knows. Yeah, who knows whether or not this is how the story goes. The parts that are actually probably confirmable.
Starting point is 00:46:29 What we do know, there was a giant space battle on Mars and this kid fucking knew it. Yeah, he was a part of it. Probably fighting alongside Randy Kramer. Of course. Space warrior Randy Kramer. The only question that I have to ask is, he's a reptoid or is he humanoid? We don't get into raptors in this episode, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Bariska sounds very reptoid to me. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds almost, oh, nevermind. I keep forgetting which side is the good one. That's because there are no good side stats. In that clip, you start to see Carrie be like, well, here's what I know. These are the things that I have figured out.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And she's starting to grow a little bit possibly resentful. And it boils over a little bit in this next clip where we got our, it's easy to blow up a planet drop. Okay. There are lots of places on the planet where you have literally hundreds of high-powered nuclear weapons stored in one spot. And if you took an enemy's nuclear weapon with a bunker-busting capability. Just real quick, actually, this clip is a little bit longer,
Starting point is 00:47:32 but I want it to play out as a whole just to hear them bickering. So this might be a good mic down opportunity just because it's caddy as hell. I just love the, it happened the same way with Elron Hubbard where it's like, they have these space weapons and everything's cool. But we're going to put that, it's a B-52 bomber. Right. Right. Yeah. In the past, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:51 These are bunker-busting nuclear weapons because they, of course, build them the same way that we do. That just makes perfect sense. If you're a group of reptoid species, of course you're going to, of course, why wouldn't you build a bunker buster? You know bunkers, they're everywhere. So his perception is that you have a bunker buster missile type thing that goes and blows up a stockade of nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Of course. Right. And so why wouldn't you? That's why we keep all of our nuclear weapons in a big pile. Right. Everyone does that. Everybody does this. And shot it into one of those places and detonated it. You very likely ignite all of them.
Starting point is 00:48:26 They all go up at once. And if they all go up at once, you blow up the planet. It's really easy to blow up a planet. For example, Earth. This is how you blow up Earth. Earth is an 8,000 mile ball of liquid molten lava. It's just, it's just, just liquid. And it's got an 8 mile thin crust on top of it, like a grape seed.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And to blow up the planet, all you need to do is puncture the, puncture the balloon. To this, I would like to remind him of volcanoes. What? If you want to blow up Earth, you poke a hole in it. That's his idea. That's his big plan. Earth is a lot like a balloon.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Right. A grape seed. And you just poke it. Yeah. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. So hold on. It just goes on.
Starting point is 00:49:16 All right. You just need to pop a big hole in the balloon and you'll whole thing will pop. Because the lava's under such tremendous, such tremendous pressure. So if you took one of those repositories of hundreds of nuclear weapons and shot one weapon into it and detonated it, not on the surface, but making one of those bunker busting goes deep in and boom. Ah. Okay. Well, I appreciate your.
Starting point is 00:49:40 You would, you would destroy the entire planet. You know, conjecture. But I have to say that is your personal conjecture. That's not, that's not what we scientifically know for a fact. And it happens. And we also don't know. It's pretty easy to put two and two together. Well, I think that that would be, you know, I think there's a lot of ways that they may be
Starting point is 00:50:01 using to destroy planets. In fact, I have some information from one of my secret witnesses about that. And it does involve other things such as shooting a neutron star through a worm hole. So, you know, I think I'm just saying that this is a very easy way to blow up a planet. Even so. I'm not saying, I'm not saying this is the way that that planet was destroyed. Right. I'm just saying it is not hard to blow up a planet.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And this is the one way it could be done using current technology that we have. Okay. But that's also what you know as a surface human. That's not necessarily what Black projects in the secret space program are aware of and utilizing even to this day. So we have to jump. At the point that I'm trying to say is that most people would say, blowing a planet, you can't do that. Planets, you can't blow up a planet.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It's just, it's just reaching for the idea to explain to people, it's not that hard to blow up a planet. Has this ever been you trying to blow up a planet? I don't know how to do this. My hands keep slipping off of the nuclear weapon. You, an idiot. It's hard to blow up a planet. Me, a genius.
Starting point is 00:51:15 No, it's not. Fuck you. It's so easy. Right. But it's not easy to blow up a planet. I don't even know about this shooting a neutron star through a wormhole thing. That's what, that doesn't make any sense. It's less important.
Starting point is 00:51:30 What makes the neutron star would just collapse into a wormhole of its own. It's, it's less important. What makes sense and what doesn't as what is more important is this friction that we're seeing. I've never seen Carrie Cassidy be like, look, I am more legit than you. You're saying things that don't go in line with the Project Camelot line. And I got to be polite, but also shut you down on some stuff. It's fantastic. Because everything we've ever heard from Carrie is like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:02 let's throw that in my narrative. Sure. Sure. Yeah. No, ethereal is awesome. More seasoning for the broth. Yeah. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Mars fights. Fuck yeah. Spider leadership wormholes on board. Yeah. Wait a second. What did you just say about fucking Mars? You're saying that they used a bunker busting bomb to blow up a nuclear. What a moron.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Everyone knows it's a fucking neutron star. And where else would the giant Beatles have come from when we were fighting in Vietnam idiots? Now, Courtney, what you don't understand is I've, I've talked to other crazy people before you and they've assured me that their crazy shit is real. And therefore I can't go along with your crazy shit. They're having a dominant struggle about crazy shit. Well, I mean, of course the old saying is there's more than one way to blow up a planet. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Of course, Carrie. Yeah, that's an aphorism. Look, I'm just saying this is how you could do it if you were to do it. Right. So I'm essentially the OJ of blowing up planets. So that, that sort of mentality of like sort of got to push back a little bit leads us to Carrie Cassidy accidentally asking the most salient question of all time that Courtney does not enjoy having asked.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Okay. Was there any detail, you know, because there's this thing called actionable intelligence. And sometimes I wonder if these remote viewings avoid even on purpose giving us what, what might be termed actionable, actionable intelligence, things that could be checked out really that are very, very hard and fast. Now you say there are some in some of these things that were involved here that to some degree have shown up in our cultures. And so in a certain sense, that's information that's validated simply because it's been
Starting point is 00:53:52 around for so long that something of that nature might have happened. But do you understand what my question is here? Not really. Okay. So the question is, do you feel that these remote viewing sessions are giving you actionable intelligence? I'm not sure what I'm, what do you mean by actionable intelligence? Well, it's a military term.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I thought maybe you would be familiar with it. Oh, shit. I've heard it, but I'm not sure of how you're using it. So maybe you could explain. Well, it actually, it means that you can follow it up and find hard, fast evidence in essence. Well, our whole project is based on that, on that definition of what you just said, actionable intelligence. No, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:54:35 No, it is not. Oh, man. Oh, man. Kerry asks the one question that you are not allowed to ask on Project Camelot, which is, Are you fucking around? Can you prove it? Right. It's like, it's, it, the question at its core is, I noticed from looking at a lot of
Starting point is 00:54:53 remote viewing stuff that it seems like it's almost intentionally vague. Yeah. And unverifiable. I feel like you don't do that. Quick question from me, Kerry Cassidy. Okay. Is any of this real? You fucking with me?
Starting point is 00:55:08 Let me tell you. Are you fucking with me? Our entire operation is based solely on real things. That's what somebody would say if they were fucking with me. They were scamming people. So in this next clip. I love poor Kerry. Kerry is being for, and look, here's the real victim.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Kerry is being forced into the one place that she has spent her entire life avoiding, which is the skeptics place. Exactly. She hates this. Right. She doesn't want to have to say, she wants to believe you, Dan. She wants to believe in you. She wants to know that your heart, despite being filled with Martian history, is still pure and good.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Whatever paranoid narrative you have about the world being some sort of bizarre, I don't even know how to describe it. That's what she wants to perpetuate. And she's going out of her way because this guy is like, I think she hates him. Yeah. Why did she bring this guy on? I don't know. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:56:06 But anyway, in this next clip, she asks another question. Because it's not like he's famous. She asks another question that's actually really salient to you. And that is that as he's been presenting it, the humans, the humanoid, separate, those pitiable surface humans, similar, but different humans on Mars. Yes. Back in the day. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:27 They blew up Malduk or whatever. Malbec. Maldeck. Maldeck. Yeah. Which means bad dick. And so that is the. It's about skateboards.
Starting point is 00:56:36 That was the end of this war, right? Well, there was a mass genocide. Right. They killed all the reptoids or reptiles or raptors. So she has a question about that though. It's an interesting question. How would that be the end of the war necessarily? And I don't think that Courtney has a good answer.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Was the nuclear decimation on the surface of Mars a result in a payback by the reptilians? That apparently was happening before the planet was destroyed. The destruction of the planet when it blew up, that apparently was the end of the war. But that was also the end of a good day. Why? I mean, I know this may not be answerable. I'm just going down these roads. Why if they, you know, if you have a fleet of army or whatever it is, I'm not army, but,
Starting point is 00:57:36 you know, above your head and it is attacking you and their home planet is blown up, it doesn't automatically therefore follow that the fleet suddenly abandons their war. And they can't go back to the planet. I'm certain you're correct. I'm certain you're correct and that everybody just didn't stop. Right. But, you know, for all intents and purposes, you can imagine that after that, people were just trying to find some place to go.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I mean, Mars really wasn't a very habitable, easily habitable place after that either. Well, that's when reptilian ISIS started. Wow. Do you remember when reptilian ISIS started? Dude, we don't even talk about the analysis of that clip because you just said ISIS. I got some news about ISIS. And we also know that there are many different races of reptilians and certainly destroying one planet doesn't, that didn't do away with them.
Starting point is 00:58:28 We know that for a fact because we have monuments, you know, with reptilians on, you know, carved onto them all over the planet. In fact, ISIS was tasked according to one of my witnesses with destroying a lot of the evidence in the Middle East of just that. The reptilian domination of humans here. So, so now we bring ISIS into the fold. Oh, ISIS. ISIS.
Starting point is 00:58:53 What will you not destroy? ISIS in her position or her conception was created to destroy proof of reptilian domination of Earth. Okay. So if I understand correctly, ISIS, not G-dubs' fault. Nope. Reptilians' fault or perhaps humanoid's fault for committing a mass genocide of the reptilians. Right. And the way that this, while it sounds more fun as an explanation and fanciful,
Starting point is 00:59:22 it, at its core, it's really still just trying to ignore the real reasons for terrorism that we discussed at the end of the last episode. Right. Well, that's bad. Yeah. The destruction that we have laid on people and the desperateness of oppressed populations. I love that Kerry's wargaming it too. Kerry's doing, Kerry's doing our job.
Starting point is 00:59:42 This is, this is a little disappointing now. I know that Kerry can wargames. Now, now the whole thing is in question. So now we realize that she's been holding back all the time. Yeah. It only brings this out whenever she's like, I'm done with this. Yeah. But it is, I mean, it is a good question.
Starting point is 00:59:56 They're like, okay, so they blew up the planet. There's a fucking whole bunch of ships out there still with these reptilians. Right. They're gonna fucking attack. I saw the reboot of Star Wars. That's what that guy was doing. And his answer is like. That's why he blew up Spock's home planet.
Starting point is 01:00:09 His answer is like, everyone just wants somewhere to go. And then also that answers your question is to like, what about Mars? Why can't you live on it? It's cause the fallout of this. Cause of the fallout of that? Yeah. So Mars wasn't inhabitable after that. And again, this all goes back to ancient aliens.
Starting point is 01:00:22 His, his answer of like, well, you know, Mars wasn't really a great place to live anyways. So if everybody's dead, you might as well just fuck off into a different planet. So at this point, Kerry decides to get up on a soap box and pontificate about how we're going to have to fight these reptilians again. Oh, of course we are. And so the question becomes, did, you know, and this is just for the purposes of my audience and for people to probe into possibilities as to what this could mean. So it's not just an idle thing where, oh, somewhere in the far distant past,
Starting point is 01:00:57 some earthlings were attacked on Mars. And that was how it, you know, ended up looking like it does. And, and basically they went to earth after that. Well, the reptilians did follow. We know they followed. And we know they're here now. And we also know that they have been here in the past because we have the carvings, et cetera, to show in the various societies, which includes South America, all over Sumer,
Starting point is 01:01:21 in Egypt, you know, Iraq, Iran, you know, Syria, et cetera, et cetera. So what I'm saying is, may we look forward to another battle with reptilians sometime in our future. These are just questions. Obviously you can't answer them. You raise a lot of interesting questions of which I don't have answers. Okay, fair enough. That was a Carrie Callahan diss right there. Obviously you can't answer it.
Starting point is 01:01:50 She's Carrie Callahan to me. We've already, she's cucking him out. We've already, yeah. Obviously you can't answer these questions. All of my other guests can answer them, but you, all of my real sources, you poor, fool with your remote viewing. How dare you surface? Sure. You have psychic abilities.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And I'm going to allow that to be translated to my fucking audience. But what you don't have, what you don't have is you don't know about the secret space program. She's picking and choosing what she doesn't believe. She's like, well, obviously remote viewing is real. But all of your other information is silly. And if you believe the rational, like the remote viewing stuff is real, you have to believe he has extra human abilities. Right. And so does his team.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah. What are you doing, Carrie? This isn't no regular surface human. Right. This is a psychic surface human. Just because your other fake guests have read fake documents doesn't mean that they have some sort of grasp on truth that this psychic doesn't have. This is, this has been the, like, since we've started doing Project Camelot episodes, this has been what I've always wanted is, because I've always wanted to know,
Starting point is 01:02:53 what does it take for Carrie to go over to the other side? She's not on the other side. No, no, no. She just doesn't like this guy. No, no, no. I mean, like, she has pushed so hard through the conspiracy theory window that now she's gone all the way to the other side of being skeptical of conspiracy theories. She's too deep, man. She's gone native.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, exactly. Who's the other step. So in this next clip, Courtney Brown, he's just dumb. Yeah, yeah. Jesse Ventura. So he was in a, I saw one episode where he was just sort of harassing people and saying, go where are the reptiles? Where are the reptiles? I don't see any reptiles. Well, it's, you know, that's sort of a decent answer. And we always wondered about that as well until we finished the Area 51 project.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And now we know exactly where they are. There's a whole large group of them in living facilities that are very deep under Area 51. This is about the Dulce base kind of stuff. Yeah. The idea that there's connected tunnels underneath like a bunch of military installations. Right. Area 51, the Dulce base. And I did, I researched this in depth and it all comes.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Ah, but did you remote view it? I didn't, but it all comes from a schizophrenic dude who killed himself. It's a very tragic story. If you look into the reality of the Dulce base stuff, it's not real and very, very sad that this guy through his fake remote viewing is perpetuating the same stories. Isn't it fascinating that kind of how, how that brain virus meme kind of works? Like with John Patmos, uh, John of Patmos.
Starting point is 01:04:30 No, no, no, no. He was on, no, I'm talking about the guy from Full House. Oh, uh, Uncle Johnny. I'm sorry. Uh, no, well, like there's no way that he could ever have imagined that his dumb allegory was going to last for 2000 years and people were going to think it's real. No, no.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Like there's no way that was possible. Like this guy who, uh, invented the Dulce tunnels. Yeah. Uh, there's no way he would have expected his. He was just trying to make a living. Yeah. He was just trying to make a living going around to UFO conventions and selling fake little scraps of metal and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 That's all he was doing. Instead it turns into this brain virus that infects so many people. 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,760 It's a fascinating thing. No, and it's, uh, once we wrap up this episode, you'll, you'll see an even more fascinating aspect of like the nature of this stuff. Does he take off his, uh, surface human max again, reveal that he was a reptilian the whole time?
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah. Why do we even finish the episode now? All right. And the deeper you go, the larger the collection of those people are. According to Cam lot witnesses for the last 12 years, we've been talked to about reptilians by military witnesses and people that have worked in black lives. That's not what I do. So I can't sort of.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Yeah, I know. I just want people to know that you might not know of that evidence, but I do. Yeah. Well, I, I don't know that though, man. I can just say what we have done. Sure. And what we have done is we did investigate, uh, area 51 and we did find what we can
Starting point is 01:05:58 describe as reptilians there. Of course. And they were not particularly friendly. Because the humanoids committed genocide on their planet, dude. Well, why would they be friendly? Well, I mean, yeah, if you believe that, then yeah, I mean, why, yeah, why would they be friendly? That's, that's.
Starting point is 01:06:16 This guy's story has holes in it, man. Swiss cheese. Ridiculous. I'm telling you. So here's where, um, we get to like, I'm starting to not believe him. We get to, in this next clip, I think what I would describe is like the breaking point, the point of no return for Kerry for the two of them as being like broadcasting partners. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And then they can take the information that we have with the war in heaven, which is a ton of information way more than you get from any other one single source. Oh shit. And add that to discussions. So I think this is going to eventually change the tone of all of these discussions. We don't need to speculate so much and guess we can say, okay, at least we know this much. And based on this much, we can start asking people that do know more governmental sources, things like that for more information.
Starting point is 01:07:04 You're not going to get this information out of the military. The military works for the government. They don't run the government. So you have to, the military is not going to have a revolution. We might disagree on whether they run the government or not. And whether our president is actually president because there was a military coup. So I'm not going to go there at the moment, since that's not the purposes of this interview. But I do appreciate, you know, what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:07:32 And I certainly agree that this, I do think that the viewings do are, it adds to a sort of a litany of information that I certainly have gotten from witnesses who did work for the military as it happens. Oh boy. That's so uncomfortable. Oh shit. That's so fucking uncomfortable. I mean, in a land of liars, you know, it's really interesting when two liars butt up
Starting point is 01:07:57 against each other like this. It's really fascinating because it does go down to like, who's asserting dominance? And the two of them are both trying to assert a passive lazy version of dominance over each other. And it's Carrie's fucking show. She's going to win every time. And so she's right.
Starting point is 01:08:15 This is a Fox News interview. All like, this is whenever Fox News brought out whatever silly liberal voice that would go on there. Combs. Yeah. Yeah. Who would be, who would represent liberals so poorly. Alan Combs.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing. Like Hannity would treat him as a punching bag. Carrie's doing the same thing here. I like it. I like it as a strategy. She's going to get huge ratings.
Starting point is 01:08:38 But it was like the first 40 minutes or so. The interview was fine and then it took a turn somewhere. And I'm not entirely sure why. I think it was when he said- It's the military sources. Yeah. Because when he was talking about the millennials that he has working for him, I think that was the-
Starting point is 01:08:51 She hates millennials? No, because he, in the, in talking about the millennials, he disparaged the idea of all military sources. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, at that point in the interview, she's kind of like, I'm over this. Yeah, you go against the Penn Dragon. You're going to get Carrie's, Carrie's wrath.
Starting point is 01:09:05 So she's, I think that guy wasn't actually in the military. Of course he wasn't. But he was in space military, Dan. That's right. So at this point, she just starts asking questions from the message board. Because there's a lot of extreme going. Of course. And here is one of the questions that I thought was particularly telling.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Okay. So one last question. Someone wants to know if you have information on what Ed Dames calls the kill shot. That's the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard in my life. I don't even want to talk about it. All right. Fair enough. So you don't know?
Starting point is 01:09:42 Okay. Well, it's been great again to talk to you. So that's- Answer the question! No, it's not that he doesn't know about it. He doesn't want to talk about this. So Ed Dames was another famous remote viewer. That made a bunch of nonsense claims.
Starting point is 01:09:58 I'll just list off some of these questions. Are we talking about JFK? No. He said that Martians would be caught stealing fertilizer from U.S. companies. He said that the existence of Satan would be proven by science. Monsanto covers both of those. He said that Bill Clinton would be killed in April 1998 on a golf course by lightning. He claimed to know-
Starting point is 01:10:15 He was replaced by a changeling. He claimed to know the exact location of Amelia Earhart's plane. It is Madagascar. He claimed that a cylindrical object containing deadly fungus spores released by an alien intelligence was heading towards Earth in 1998. That was a satellite, actually. He claimed that Africa would be hit by a major famine due to a wheat fungus that would spread to the Americas.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It came from my toes. And then he predicted the kill shot. Yes. So this was in the late 90s. He predicted that a series of powerful deadly solar flares he termed the kill shot would impact the Earth and wipe out civilization between 2011 and 2013. So it didn't happen. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah. It didn't happen. Okay. So it's one of those things that really is used as an invalidation of remote viewing because- Because it didn't happen? Because- While a lot of these claims were like they didn't come true- Didn't happen in our universe.
Starting point is 01:11:10 But Ed Dames was still seen as like a legitimate part of the remote viewing community. Right. And so- I trust him. This person bringing that up is a hey go fuck yourself sort of question. Right. And Courtney Brown sees through that and is like I'm not going to dignify that with an answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Even though back in the day I'm sure that the two of them- Hung. Yeah. Yeah, they were chill. They were contemporaries. For sure. So- You don't get the largest remote viewing facility on Earth if you don't know Ed Dames.
Starting point is 01:11:40 No, you certainly don't. So that brings us to the end of the Project Camelot episode. But it doesn't bring us to the end of our episode. Oh no. So I've been withholding a certain piece of information from you. Uh-huh. Wait, did Kerry go on Alex Jones' show? No.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Okay. Did this guy go on Alex's show? No. This is all still in Project Camelot World. Okay. So I went to the Farsight website. I went to farsight.org and I mentioned some- Saw a lot of single panel comics.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I mentioned some of the things that he was involved in. This Courtney Brown was involved in remote viewing. You know, you have the Hitler thing. You have Martin Luther King. You have Area 51, 9-11. All of these are listed on his website as the project you can view. Climate change, Giza Pyramid, JFK in the afterlife, Atlantis. Reptilians.
Starting point is 01:12:29 There's one thing that he doesn't list on his website that is a very big piece of his history. And to discuss it, I had to go back and find an episode of Coast to Coast AM from 1996. What? Yeah. All right. Please. In November of 1996, Courtney Brown went on with Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM to talk about the Halebop Comet.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yes. Here is the first clip. So obviously there's something to this. This object is four times, approximately four times. Let me be clear. He's talking about the object trailing Halebop. And this is based on a fraudulent image that had come out in the day of this episode in November of 1996.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Wait. The object's trailing Halebop? We're going to get to it. Hold on. The size of the planet Earth, and it's headed our way. And it's basically it. But now, I don't know how your commercial break is, but I'll start right now. All right.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. Wherever there are beings, they organize themselves. And we now know that in the galaxy out there, there is something called a galactic federation, a council. And this remote viewer went on to describe this.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I'm going into the middle of the session. There's a lot of preparatory stuff that I'm just simply going to omit because of time. Fine. And this person perceived that this galactic council or some higher order was watching very interested. Like they were watching a hologram unfold. It's like watching an election return or something. They are all seated around a table in a subspace.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I'm looking at a 4D or something like that. They're very serious about this event, which may be happening. Going in a direction, which is not that this event may go in a direction, which is not evolutionary, but only time will tell. And time is of the essence. And many things are happening. By the way, the person did, of course, the stuff I'm omitting is accurate descriptions that the person did of this object and so on like that.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Now, I'm not sure I want to omit that. They're coming. They're more accurate as they're coming. I'm on page 11 and at the 40 page session. So I want to make sure I cover the most important stuff. All right. Okay. And I won't omit anything that's really important.
Starting point is 01:14:56 He immediately perceived immediately that there was a vortex, something spinning. And then he perceived that there were people on the ground here that were looking up and there was some structure. And the idea of astronomers and others looking up in the sky, looking at some structure. Up there. And there was also something going on in subspace. There was an attempt to communicate. This is fundamental.
Starting point is 01:15:20 There is a message being sent to someone who is listening, but not hearing. It is essential that this person or persons wake up and listen now. Help will be there when he does. So somebody here is being sent a message. Us. The interpretation of it. Is us, collectively, us? The interpretation of this session so far is that the message is being sent to us.
Starting point is 01:15:46 We're listening, but not understanding. Professor, is this message coming from this object? Yes. And it's also been coordinated by the larger galactic council. When was the fifth element released? I don't know that. But I do know that in March of 1997. We're going to need to cross-reference this because he just described the plot of the fifth element.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He didn't describe it. His remote viewer did. Okay, fine. Let me take a look here. 1997. Holy shit. So he predicted the plot of the fifth element. Call fucking no.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I'm out. Gary Oldman is no longer my favorite actor. Jordan, you're missing the forest for the trees. Courtney Brown is the reason that. The fifth element happened. No. He's the reason that the idea went around that a spaceship was following the Hale-Bopp comet. I thought he said it was an object the size of Earth. It's a huge spaceship.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Let's go to the next clip. There is a large object out there. It apparently is both has tunnels in it. It is both technological, artificial, and natural in the sense that it has rock as well as metal in it. It's humongous. It's absolutely large. And it is apparently moving in an artificial, in artificial means. It's not moving like a normal celestial body means.
Starting point is 01:17:11 It's under control. It's a vehicle. It's moving. And it's four times the size of the planet Earth. This is a big ET thing. One thing you must say about the ET is that when they decide to put on a show, oh boy, they know theater. They know theater is better than anything on Broadway.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Yeah. It works for me. Works for me. Thanks, Art. So you understand what I'm getting at here. Courtney Brown that he's been right the whole time about everything. Courtney Brown, the guy that we've been going over on this episode of Project Camelot in 2018. Wait, this was now.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Well, the episode of Project Camelot was no shit in 1996. He went on Art Bell and basically through his remote viewing bullshit created the idea that a spaceship was following the Hale-Bop Comet. This was picked up by the Heaven's Gate cult and led to the deaths of 39 people. What? Yeah. He was the one who killed the Heaven's Gate people? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:15 You know why? You know why it happened? You know why it happened? It's not all his fault, although he's playing with fire when he plays games like this. Yeah. But the entire idea of Heaven's Gate with the next level and that there's going to be, like we're learning lessons here and there's messages from space that we need to listen to. The way he's presenting it on this episode of Art Bell, it just so happens, it specifically
Starting point is 01:18:39 falls in line with the teachings that Marshall Applewhite was putting forward to his flock. This idea that like when he says in this episode of Art Bell's shit, he's like, oh did you, like this space item, this space object, the message is we aren't hearing them, but there's an individual who needs to listen. How could Marshall Applewhite not end up, like this is so clear that he got all of this from this episode of Art Bell. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Yep. Nobody knows this. Yep. That's, that can't be true. When did Heaven's Gate happen? Well, I mean, I know when they killed themselves. Do you? Well, because it was right around when the Halebop comic was flying around.
Starting point is 01:19:23 It was March, I believe, 24 through 26 of 1997. Yeah, because they did it in shifts. And the idea that you needed to, like the idea of Halebop being part of it and the object floating behind Halebop and the suicide stuff was not a part of their cult for the preceding 20 years. No shit. Heaven's Gate existed for a really long time before they ended up becoming a suicidal doomsday cult. No shit. Well, yeah, they were a great internet company for a while.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Sure. Weirdly enough. They did do tech help. They did a lot of great tech help. 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,240 They were for all, for all that I've heard. I think it was higher source or something like that was the name of their company. Apparently they were great at it.
Starting point is 01:20:04 But you understand, like the reason that I'm bringing all this up, there's literally no way to get around the idea that there happened to be a crazy dude who was a cult leader and his teachings matched up entirely with what this guy went around and spit on Art Bell's show. There's an obvious one to one connection that he listened to this episode of Art Bell. And that's where he started to come up with the ideas that led to the, I mean- This is the biggest scoop of our career. No, it's not. This is-
Starting point is 01:20:36 Did everybody know this? Well, I mean, there was- I've never heard this before. They made reference to it on that podcast about Heaven's Gate. I believe Heaven's Gate was the name of it. It's really good podcast. Oh, they did reference that? People should listen to it.
Starting point is 01:20:48 But even as I was listening to this episode of Project Camelot, I didn't put the pieces together that this Courtney Brown was the guy in that episode of Art Bell from 1996 who created the entire mythology around the idea of a spaceship coming behind Halebop. That's fucking bananas. And he just made this up. Yeah. Like there's no other recorded situation before this other than of course the guy who- None that I know of.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Well, other than the guy who wrote the fifth element who happened to be working for him at the time as a remote viewer- There were like those fraudulent pictures that were sort of doctored up. And there was actually even a scandal about that involving Courtney Brown because he sent Art Bell some pictures that he had gotten from a anonymous astrophysicist telescope guy source. Right. And it turned out that they were doctored pictures from the University of Hawaii.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Of course. And he's like, no, no, they absolutely weren't and I can prove it. Did he prove it? Nope, he didn't. Oh, okay. And to this day, he refuses to say who that anonymous source for these pictures were. Right. He's caught up in an elaborate fucking hoax that ended up being really, really fucking dangerous.
Starting point is 01:22:04 That's crazy. Now, granted, we can take a step back and we can really realize that the situations, if you look into what was going on in the Heaven's Gate cult, were dangerous already. Oh, yeah? No matter what, there is a chance that they were going to end up committing suicide anyway. Right. But this obviously at 100% fed into it. And the reason that I'm-
Starting point is 01:22:29 Cults don't end until they kill a lot of people. But also, cults generally don't end until there's a satisfying narrative for the leader to play out. Like, the only reason that Jonestown ended the way it did is because we fucking shot a senator. We got to pull it. Whereas the story he would have probably rather lived out with the mass suicide would have been slightly different and less forced and rushed than it was. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 21:53:00 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,160 With Jim Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that this episode of Coast to Coast, 100% gave Marshall Applewhite the narrative and gave the idea of like, oh shit, this entirely, for 20 years we've been saying that aliens are going to bring us to the next level. And now we know. Now we have the story. This is a professor.
Starting point is 01:23:16 This is a professor who's going on this show. He has a doctorate. He's no slouch. What's his doctorate in? I don't remember. It's not, it's not in anything relevant. Silliness? It's a political science or something like that.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Okay, of course, of course. But we have one more, one more clip here from back in 1999 that really drives home. And like this was the sort of stuff I was listening to earlier and got nauseous listening to. The main guy needs to listen or too many people will not be allowed. Actually, we'll be disturbed by something. There are many people being interested. Some type of a partnership is underway with regard to the subspace column. The structures may be discovered or utilized before the entire decoding process is handled.
Starting point is 01:24:02 And then he goes on into a lot about this decoding process. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What does that mean? The structures may be utilized. Meaning the structure is the structure we're looking at up in space. Yes. And it's got some information. It's trying to, its whole purpose is to convey to us some information.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And we have to decode it. It's our process, our educational process to understand what it's trying to say. And most of what it's trying to say has to deal with not just the physical, but the subspace realm of life. So. What's the subspace realm of life, Dan? It's open to interpretation to the point where a cult leader who was very frequently and very, like one of the biggest teachings of the Heaven's Gate shit was that like,
Starting point is 01:24:45 you know, we, like our bodies aren't really, that's not who we are. There's a sub level or souls. That's sort of shit. Right, right, right. I don't know how to put a button on this. But like, when we talk about like the Project Camelot stuff, it's super fun because it's fucking stupid. But at the same time, the episodes about Mark Richards and the Raptors and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:25:11 he's a murderer. He is a fucking murderer. You understand? Yeah. And so we have this episode that's super fun about Courtney Brown coming on and talking about how he has figured out the war in Heaven. And we can laugh and have a lot of fun with that. You look at his past, he's responsible, not responsible, but he had his hand in the deaths
Starting point is 01:25:31 of 39 people and the end of the Heaven's Gate cult. I know and I get, I get that. This is serious stuff. In a, no, no, no, I do, I do understand what you're saying and I get it. My problem is it is a micro version of religion. Like my problem is it's a micro version of the worship of guns in this country that keeps us from stopping any kind of school. Like what?
Starting point is 01:25:59 That's why we cover this stuff on the podcast. I know, but that's, but that's why I'm not, I'm, I'm struggling to feel, I'm struggling to feel any kind of disgust or any kind of emotional connection to this, because it's relatively speaking in the grand scheme of all of the reasons people murder a shit ton of people, hilarious, objectively hilarious. Well, I guess, and if you're, if you're in the Heaven's Gate club, uh, club, uh, if you're, if you're in the Heaven's Gate and what my favorite, okay, so I have a great pool. I had the model UN club and I had the Heaven's Gate club where we acted it out as great.
Starting point is 01:26:35 Um, we would debate things. No, I have limited sympathy for Heaven's Gate people. Like it seemed like they were, I'm not, I'm not interested in sympathy. That's not the game I'm playing. Okay. That's not the conversation I'm having. The conversation that I'm trying to bring to you is there are very serious consequences for people who play these sorts of crazy games.
Starting point is 01:26:58 You know what I'm saying? They're all, it's, there's a real world piece of the fantasy game that Kerry Cassidy is playing on project Camelot, that if you scrape beneath the surface a little bit with a bunch of the people that she has on, you find their involvement in very dangerous things. Whether it be a murder or whether it be a hoax that he perpetrated on coast to coast AM that fed into a ritual, uh, mass suicide. Right. So the, so if we take from that and extrapolate it out, Jerusalem isn't that big a deal guys.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I didn't say that. I'm just saying Jerusalem, you heard it here first. Not that big a deal. My point is that whole Jesus thing. He was a lot like Courtney Brown. Jesus was the Courtney Brown of the Bible. That's what I'm going to say. All right, fine.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Let that be the answer. The other point that I wanted to make is that you can have stuff like this in your past and, you know, people can know about it and, um, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't seem to. His behavior in 1996 should legitimately disqualify him from anybody listening to him ever again. He has a website and an institute where he tricks people into getting training and remote viewing, which costs them a lot of money for the training. How much does it cost?
Starting point is 01:28:19 I don't know. I didn't get an exact figure on it, but then he also sells his bullshit, channeled movies and people buy it because people are into this fucking ding dong world. And I look, I'm not coming down on people being interested in, uh, these sorts of topics and stuff like that. I'm coming down on the idea of con artists using it so easily and there being no consequences. Like most of the people who watch Project Camelot probably don't know this part of Cameron Brown or Courtney Brown's history.
Starting point is 01:28:52 They probably don't know. Mark, Mark Richards was the pen dragon. They don't know these things. Well, the millennials didn't grow up with him saying dumb shit on coast to coast. So of course it's millennia. Right. And everyone just assumes this guy has a doctorate. He probably knows some stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I've heard of remote viewing before. It's probably real. And therefore he gets to play out his cycle again. Right. And whatever comes of a lot of this remote viewing stuff, you could end up, I mean, you just got to be careful because you're making stuff up and some crazy person might hear that stuff that you're making up and run with it. And that's exactly the same as Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Right. Because the crazy stuff he makes up, people run with and they end up harassing victims' families and shooting up a pizza place. It comes back to, again, one of the things that I feel like is, justifies our, and of course I have to have some sort of rationalization for it. But one of the things that justifies the way that we attack Alex Jones and Project Camelot is because these guys are the weakest link in that con artist game. And very popular.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah, exactly. You know, like, Alex Jones is the weakest link of the conservative propaganda wing. He's so clearly and obviously stupid that you can see through. There's worse on like log talk radio, probably. Right, right, right. But when you see through it, all of a sudden now you have the tools to see through all of the other dumb conservative propaganda. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Because you can tell they're using the same tricks. Exactly. They're just less obvious about it. Yeah. Like the Project Camelot shit, the Courtney Brown shit, like that is just a less obvious version of the game that so many religions are playing. Sure. Like that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:30:27 And anytime you hear stuff like this from people, consider for a moment that they might have an incredibly checkered past of hoaxes behind them. Right. But Joel Austin, you can trust. Right. You can trust. Also shout out to Dr. Poodle Papa in the chat room called it early that it was a Heavens Gate thing.
Starting point is 01:30:44 All right. God damn it. Not super early in the episode, but before before the Heavens Gate started. A bit. Yeah. And then also use bringing up the podcast that I mentioned. The Heavens Gate podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:58 And recommending it. And I also recommend it. It's a good listen with the caveat that the host of it is a two-bit jazz weirdo. Yeah. I listened to it. It was. Jazz talk weirdo. It was not.
Starting point is 01:31:11 It was not compelling, audially orally. I think the story and the research in it is amazing and really interesting. 01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,560 But the voiceover is very difficult. Tough to listen to. So much hip cat kind of. Yeah. It wasn't bad.
Starting point is 01:31:25 It was like if you listen to NPR for more than an hour, you start to lose your mind. Yeah. But anyway, it's good. I enjoyed. I recommend it. And look, dude, this is the end. We made our point. Be careful.
Starting point is 01:31:37 All religions are wrong. Wasn't that our point? Was that what that was our point? Right? Just be careful. You know, like when you hear things, be careful. Like especially nowadays, but like just be thoughtful. Just think.
Starting point is 01:31:52 So I will. I will name someone to fuck themselves. I think it's obvious this week. Art Bell. No, that's every week. You sure? So no, not Art Bell. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:32:04 No, go ahead. I was going to say Art Bell. Really? Yeah. You were going to say Art Bell. What allowed that to happen? Art Bell was on Coast to Coast AM. What else?
Starting point is 01:32:13 George Norrie wouldn't do that. Well, of course George Norrie would. He would totally do that. Yeah. But yeah, go ahead. I think the obvious person to say go fuck yourself too. Oh, wait. We didn't even do any plugs.
Starting point is 01:32:23 We have a website called. Oh, yeah. And now it's fight.com. Yeah. Also Twitter. Twitter. And now it's underscore fight. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:29 On Facebook. Facebook? Yep. We are on iTunes. Yep. Anyway, who? What? Well, I think Marshall Applewhite, you can go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah, I guess so. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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