Knowledge Fight - #127: February 8, 2018

Episode Date: February 9, 2018

Today, Dan walks Jordan through the painful episode of The Alex Jones Show from Feb. 8, 2018. The pain mostly comes from Alex being in a very weird headspace, and lashing out aggressively at the trans... community. There is pain, but there's also pleasure, in the form of Alex not knowing anything about Bitcoin and clearly having a conman as his guest to talk about it.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed it is, Dan.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Dan, why would somebody stay up until this late on a school night, Dan? Well, on a school night. First of all, it's your Friday. It is my Friday. One of our dear listeners is possibly getting furloughed from the government. So that's a good reason to stay up. That is a good reason to stay up. Beyond that, I don't know. A lot of people are listening to this tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Fair. No, no, no. That's a good point. You dick. That is a good point. I'm not sullying our other listeners. I'm just saying that there are plenty of people. True. A larger amount of people than we have any right to expect. Right. Which we appreciate. Listening to us live tonight at 1030 on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And you know why? Because I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know what God damn thing about Alex Jones. Tonight's novelty beverage is burnt city brewery face melter hibiscus IPA. Very sorry about that. We shall be melting faces. Tastes pretty good. Yeah, it actually does.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I don't know if it's what a hibiscus tastes like. I've never eaten a hibiscus. I actually don't know what a hibiscus is. So it's a flower. It's like a tropical flower. Oh, okay. Now I know what it is. So Jordan, today I want to. I don't know what I wanted to start with, but I had something. I really did.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I really had something. Fuck. Do you know what? Do you know what? I got so distracted by the burnt city hibiscus. I have a terrible pun that I refuse to say. Oh, no, you know what it was? What?
Starting point is 00:01:43 The reason we're doing this so late is because you're too successful at stand-up comedy. Sure. Yes. Making in the tens of dollars. Indeed. Yeah. I don't know. That wasn't worth going back to.
Starting point is 00:01:54 No. So Jordan, today we're going to be going over the February 8th, 2018 episode of the Alex Jones show. That's Thursday of this week. And I will say this, I'm going to tell you this right now. Yeah. This is going to be a lot of fun until it's not. Great.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Look, just, just roll. Don't give me, don't give me intros. Now I'm dreading what's going to happen. No, that's why we're drinking. You decreased my fun. That's why we're having some booze because by the time the booze kicks in, we'll be at the point where we need to be drunk to handle it. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But to give you some sense of where we're going here. You know you have neighbors, right? No. That's why you can't scream. Yeah. You should have front loaded the rage part. I don't know if it's rage. I think it's a lot of unpacking.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Just bummer. Well, it's a bummer and it's a lot of like trying to get to the bottom of what he's even trying to say. Okay. But here is an out of context drop from today's episode. We're not lying to you. Sounds. Sounds believable.
Starting point is 00:02:53 If you are not lying to people, you don't have to scream. We're not lying at you. Yeah. Generally when someone yells at you about what they're doing or not doing, it's best to take that with a very large salt lick. I'm not mad at you. I'm just, look, I don't know about body language so well. I've got questions about that.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So today there's a lot to go over. I mean, the show is dog shit. It's very stupid. But there are a couple of things that I'm going to have to point out that like, I just don't have clips from them cause boys got to prioritize and I've had a fucking full day. Quite frankly. Yeah. Cause you fucking wrecked Alex Jones with a shout out to our policy.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Oh, for sure. Yeah. Absolutely, John. We got to the bottom of some stuff about Alex Jones's new website fortified supply.com and actually we should put a pin in that just cause it's going to come up. It's going to come up later. We can discuss the details of that at that point, but I have probably put in a 16 hour day at this point doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'm pretty much at what I'm at 14 right now. So let's fucking roll, man. That's why we need these, these beers. Yeah. But that's, that's to say that I've been working on a ton of Alex Jones stuff between that, that write up the end game documentary that we'll be putting out in the very near future. Yep. And this episode and some of these narratives are worth just mentioning in passing, but
Starting point is 00:04:18 at the same time, like who gives a shit? After I read your, uh, after I read your thing, I've just been Googling how to make a citizen's arrest all day. I don't think it qualifies for it. I don't think we have standing to sue him either. It's like, I don't know. I don't even know the legal process of what to do. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:37 We're very confused. We're mad. Yeah. That sounds like standing. So here's the first. You know what else bums me out? Oh, nice transition. Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Who? If you're nasty, Mr. Trump, if you're nasty, he has come up with this idea that he's going to, he's going to have this military parade. I know it is hilarious to me. Um, there's some problems with it. No, I love it. Uh, but here's one of the problems that I didn't foresee. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Alex Jones knows where he got the idea. He might say North Korean regimes. Um, just a little spoiler alert. The last time America had a full on military parade 1943. No, it was the end of the Gulf War in 1991. Really? Yeah. But beyond that seems too soon beyond that there are showings of military pageantry on
Starting point is 00:05:27 like veterans day and stuff like that that are just yearly holidays. Right. But the last one was in 1991 when we pulled out of the Gulf War. So to give some context, it's been what, 27 years? Also, that's not the time to have a military parade. No. Um, so anyway, where did he go? We failed.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Hooray. We're going to pretend this was a W. Yeah. Uh, so, uh, mission accomplished. That wasn't a parade. But, uh, here's where it just is pathetic. My dude, here's anyways, I'm sorry to keep interrupting you. Here's where I will not interrupt you any further.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Here's where we got never. Okay. Two days ago, President Trump came out and announced that he was going to call for a military parade. That's why they really hate Trump because Matt Drudge had that idea last year pushed it. What? And I know for a fact, that's what made Trump even think of it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 For a fact. And, and see, it's, it's the access that the people have. If you get a letter to Trump, or if he reads something on drugs or info wars, he's it makes sense. He'll look into it. Then he'll do it. Just like he learned from info wars that Sheriff Joe was. Our pilot.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Don't, don't, don't. Was going to present. He made some phone calls. Couldn't believe it. He said, why hasn't that been on Fox? He found out it was true and he did it. And the White House admitted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:50 They got the information from Dr. Jerome Corsi who hand delivered the wine house and got it through to the president. They hate that type of access. You see. They hate that kind of access. I think that if I had a perfect world, we would remove Joe Arpio's feet tomorrow. He would just have no feet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 There would be no, there would be no wheelchairs anywhere near him. No prosthetics. He is just a man with no feet. Just a little waddly. Just that's what I want. I feel like I want him to be a shittier pirate. That would probably be a very generous result for him. I just want him to be punished slowly for a long time until he dies.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It would be inconvenienced. I don't believe that torture is a good way to get information out of people because we're not trying to get information. It's been proven that it's a terrible idea. My friend, we've got the information. Exactly. We know. We don't get to torture him for a reason other than to punish him for his crimes against humanity.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Yeah. Yeah. I think the idea that Drudge is for a fact responsible for this military parade, I don't care to unpack that. I don't care if it's true because if it is, that's fucked up. If it's not still fucked up, why would you say it? Yeah. Why if it's not true?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Why does Drudge want that on his record? Realistically, the only like, I don't, I don't know. It's tough to war games things when people are kind of crazy, but like, I don't really see like a reasonable motive for having a millet, like a huge military parade with tanks. Absolutely. Like a best steel day style French. Of course not. I don't like that the French do it quite frankly.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You know what? You win some, you lose some. But it's also their country. It's France. Yeah. I'm going to tell their country what to do. Yeah, you guys figure it out. It's their business.
Starting point is 00:08:41 You want to get a new Napoleon fucking fine. I don't give a shit. Right. And Alex goes on to talk about how like Russia has victory day and that's like a really big thing. And like they have military demonstrations and it's cool because they're celebrating the end of World War Two. And that is true.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I and the Russians, the USSR, Soviet Union was incredibly important in the end of World War Two. Right. They took on heavy fucking losses. 11 million. Yeah. It's insane compared to other countries. All other, all other casualties combined, I think is the statistic.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah. Russians, Russians took the hit. I believe that that is probably accurate. The all others combined. Something along those lines. But I mean, not counting Japan and China in which case, then you get into the whole thing. Anyways. So them having a militaristic victory day parade is totally on in line with like, yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:09:32 that's a piece of history that makes sense to celebrate in that way in the same way we do Veterans Day and stuff like that. But I think one of the chief complaints that people are making when I looked into it and read some articles on it, the people who are complaining about Putin's victory day celebrations, it's that in the last few years, it's been getting very Soviet. Really? Who could have guessed? A lot of Soviet imagery is creeping back up in terms of like Soviet uniforms being worn
Starting point is 00:10:00 by some of the soldiers, a little bit of Stalin revisionism. That's not good. There's a little bit of that stuff going on and far wait. So is Stalin now taken out of his own pictures as well? All right. That's a solid history joke. And fuck you. I'm not saying it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I just went over my head. Oh, no, the whole thing, whenever Stalin would kill one of his buddies, if he was, if this buddy was in a picture with him, he would then be removed from the picture. It's like one of those creeps who takes out the eyes. Exactly. Yeah, I see. Yeah, I was unaware of that little bit of history. It's a nice little piece of history.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's why knowledge fight is about education. But you know what else it's about? Removing Joe Arpiospeed? No. Well, one day. Yeah. But for now, it's about making fun of Alex Jones' craven attempts to make money. And so it is in that spirit that I'm going to play you this next clip, which is a commercial
Starting point is 00:10:53 that Alex Jones has just released. That's very exciting. It's pre-taped. Yes, yes. This isn't alive. There's no, there's no pivot to this end. No, no, no. This is a pre-taped commercial.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And also is the voiceover talent is not Alex. It is one. Owen. No. He's so bad at it. Owen, the Cuck Slayer shroyer. Oh, boy. Enjoy.
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Starting point is 00:11:46 Why don't you just fucking say it's a boner pill already? Just say it's a boner pill. We know. We know it's a boner pill. What are you doing? You guys have already taken care of Valentine's Day. Now let us help you with Valentine's night. Unless you are unless you are a senior citizen, I can't imagine any point in a relationship
Starting point is 00:12:04 where you're like, look, we had a great Valentine's Day. I love you. I'm attracted to you. I am very excited for this. Let's both take eyedroplets of zero to get us to fuck each other. All right. So very weird. Now, this is this is again where Info Wars is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:12:21 All right. Because the this is well, go ahead, add it to the list. Because obviously, if you're going to run a Valentine's Day special, right? You put the male and female vitality into chocolates like, uh, like one of those, you know, with the filled chocolates, we have, we have historical evidence that super male vitality pairs only with burgers. Yeah. So you can't actually have it with sweets.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Well, Alex likes to take a little bit of the super female vitality. He likes it better. He likes it better. He does want to tell you. He says it all the fucking time. He feels guilty about it. So, okay. So in between, uh, race baiting, right?
Starting point is 00:13:04 Muslim hating, uh, just white nationalism, right? They're also like, guys, you want Info Wars to teach you how to fuck. That's what you need. It's not like the Kamasutra. It's just, I mean, it's just to put the Kundalini into your balls, you know, penis rising kind of stuff. It's not teaching you the how of it. It's giving you the why.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Right. These guys are such, such bros like you halfway expect the commercial to fill, end with like, Hey, you need to lay some, some pipe plumber like it, like that kind of bullshit fucking kind of terrible read. Yeah. Fuck you. Or it's end up being a commercial for like Spanish fly. I don't, or a funky cold Medina.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Oh, now there we go. What's, uh, what's tone low cup to these days? I don't know. I bet he could, I bet he could be got for Info Wars. He could. He was shit. I bet he could be gut for us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:03 We should call tone low. Oh, for sure. He's in a great couple episodes of news radio. He was. He's awesome. Uh, but also a funky cold Medina is a very problematic song. I don't want to talk. He's very clearly about it right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I don't want to go back and look in to funky cold Medina. Let's just want to remember surf ninjas. The greatest movie of all time. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Schneider. I'm trying to think of another star. Can't.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Um, so what are you talking about? Leslie Nielsen. He wasn't one of the principles. He was the bad guy. Right. He was the main villain, man. He's like four on the call sheet. And then there was that one guy and then probably that kid from three ninjas, but oh, who is
Starting point is 00:14:41 also a surf ninja? I don't know. I always get surf ninjas and three ninjas confused. Yeah. Same thing. Anyway, in this next clip, Alex has a deceitful complaint. He wants to make about the left. It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words
Starting point is 00:14:59 like the N word literature. All right. You cool? All right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Should we start this over?
Starting point is 00:15:11 You know what? You know what? I'm going to take that win. I'm going to take that one on the left as an ambassador for the left. Yes. We're proud to have banned the N word that you guys still somehow say and we don't stop you from saying because we never fucking banned it. No one banned anything.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You can't. No. Anyway, let's start this from the top. All right. It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words like the N word. Just really quick. I know that that's exact same as what I paused before, but it bears like mentioning that
Starting point is 00:15:46 he's saying that in almost like a negative way. Yeah. No. Like first of all, they didn't ban the N word. I went to college and a lot of people threw that around. No. Well, you went to college in Missouri. Hey now.
Starting point is 00:15:56 But like at the same time, he's saying it and I understand that comes from this weird libertarian place of race marriage and being against the Civil Rights Act, but saying you're not racist. You're just like, I don't want to restrict business. Sure. That sort of stuff. It's kind of in that same parcel, but it's very weird. It's obviously racist.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's very weird for someone to be like, I'm against efforts to get white people to not say the N word so much. It's very weird. Furthermore, you lead up to that one. If you're coming out the gate with the left band, the N word as a bad thing, nowhere to go. Well, also you're already wrong in a monster. Well, I mean, look, quite frankly, like Michael Richards can't have a career anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah. He doesn't work, but he's still a fucking millionaire, still a multi-millionaire. He didn't have anything destroyed for him. Like what fucking work was he doing after Seinfeld? Well, he was in like two movies. He did that. See the Seinfeld reunion season of curb. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But that's fucking the same thing. I know. Anyway, back to the clip. I'm going to start it from the top in honor of Alex. God damn it. In honor of Alex starting. It is the left at college campuses across this country that first started banning words like the N word out of literature that was actually against racism and then moved
Starting point is 00:17:20 on now to Martin Luther King because he said all God's children, black, white, yellow, red and brown. They said, well, where's the trans? Where's the, you've got to remove Martin Luther King's speech off the wall. So I looked into this and actually what it's about is a college. I can't remember the name of the college now. I don't have it in front of me, but it's a college. It's a college and there's a student group that got together and there's a mural, a painted
Starting point is 00:17:48 mural on the wall of one of the buildings that has a Martin Luther King speech on it. And they were arguing that they should replace it with a new mural, not to say fuck you to Martin Luther King, but to reflect the fact that the civil rights movement has come a long way. Race is still incredibly important and a big piece of it, but it's expanded from there into all sorts of maligned groups and disenfranchised populations. And so it was more like an update more than anything else. And if you look into it, this college has had that, this mural of Martin Luther King
Starting point is 00:18:18 since like 1982 or something like that. But before that it had another mural that was Woodrow Wilson saying the N word. So it was, it was a good change, a liberal's band, it was a smart change. No, it was, it was the guy who founded the university and it was something that at the time seemed good. And then as time went on, they're like, ooh, we don't know if this is good anymore. So they covered it up with this mural that had the Martin Luther King quote on it. And then now they're like, well, maybe we should update that.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They're not even demanding that they do it. They're just having a conversation about it. It's not banning Martin Luther King. It is, it is an essential part of conservatism and oftentimes probably the least offensive. Like maybe often, like maybe the most justifiable is fear of change. Right. Like there's a lot of fear. That's why, that's why all of Alex's narrative harken back to a bygone time of picket fences
Starting point is 00:19:18 and, you know, two and a half kids. It's a good idea to have that voice because if you are, if you are just like innovation for innovation, let's change everything, then you, you may wind up throwing away what should be built upon instead of what should be tossed aside. But Alex, the N word should not be built upon. It should be banned. It's a tough place to start an argument, which is where he started it. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I'm getting, I'm getting from the chat room that trans isn't a race and yes, of course not. No, we agree. We're looking past that for now because it's going to get way worse. But also the, the reason that it sort of like slips through in terms of what Alex is saying is because the trans community is a part of the modern civil rights picture as opposed to, I guess it still was in the sixties, but it wasn't nearly as big of a piece. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:15 It wasn't, it wasn't accepted, you know, like, like even, even at the time, most, you know, if you want to go anywhere, the, any black church, any white church, any church anywhere in the sixties, trans people, gay people, all of that shit was punishable by, you know, whatever it is you want to do, you know, there was no, there was no acceptance. To me, the civil rights movement now should expand to everybody who's not straight and white because that's everybody who's being oppressed and the poor. Everybody who's not straight and white and rich and then we prioritize black women the most.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Okay. I don't know why. I don't know why. You know what? I'm just going to lit, litigate the civil rights movement. Yeah. I have nothing to do with it. I was about to, I was about to say, hey, hey guy, how about you shut up, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:21:05 And that's exactly what I'm saying to me as well. Right. Because we got to deprioritize your voice. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, but, but, but my only point about that is that like it makes sense in the context of what Alex was saying, just he's stupid.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Right. So anyway, in this next clip, Alex has stumbled onto something. He's had a revelation throughout the first like 15 minutes or so of the show. He's rambling about the Tiananmen Square and talking because there's a military parade coming up. And now's the time. And there's a liberal professor who went out and said that he's going to stand in front of the tanks.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Don't do that. It's a little grandstandy, maybe a little, maybe a little tacky. But at the same time, Alex is super pissed off about this and he has developed a theory where in the left liberals, they're the Chinese in the tanks. That makes. And the patriots are the guy standing, the guy standing there. Sure. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:22:06 If you just let him explain. Okay. Just no, no, no. Let the man talk. You're right. I was thinking about the hypocrisy of leftists in this country with antifa hitting people on the head with bike locks, stabbing people, bombing things, attacking their cars, spitting on my reporters, dumping coffee on my head, CNN having him on saying violence is good
Starting point is 00:22:27 against the right wing. That that guy he's referencing was a troll who got on CNN. It just hit me that they are like the communist Chinese at Tiananmen Square in 1989. And they go out and engage in violence to stop our free speech. Anytime libertarians, conservatives, Trump supporters, you name it. So I want to say one thing really quick because this is part of the, you know, things, clips that couldn't quite make it in terms of timing. He does this fucking rant like five times on the show.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And one of them, he's listing off grievances that has happened and they yell at our reporters. And one of them is like, it's totally fine to fart into a mic. I'm like, that is fun. Wait, what? This is a video of this guy. It's like a, maybe a guy in his 50s, 60s, him and his wife at a rally and they're talking like Millie, I think is trying to interview them and Millie Weaver grabs the microphone to do it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 And honestly, I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. It's as funny. It's as funny as that little girl flipping off Ointreuer. Yeah. So funny. See, that's an old man farting in their mic. That's where, look, that's, that's something that you shouldn't even mention if you're Alex, you should just let that one go because that's objectively hilarious.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It's adolescent as hell, but man, so funny. If Alex himself walked in here and farted into one of our mics, all would be forgotten for the 30 seconds that we would laugh and then we, then we would hate on him again, or that would be fucking hilarious. Or let's say that there's an Antifa version of info wars, right? And they're out at some Republican rally and the, like a Anthony Scaramucci farts into their mic. Alex would love it.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It would be hilarious. He would call it a classic move. And if you're, if you're Antifa chances are you'd be like, all right, I would still think it was funny. I would still think it's hilarious. Yeah. Anyway, try to have an event Antifa even comes out with AK 47s in Austin and won't let my reporters on the Capitol grounds to be able to cover a woman who was killed by an illegal
Starting point is 00:24:39 alien and the illegal alien gets off. We go to a vigil and they are attacking men, women and children and pushing them and hitting them and not letting them get into the event and the police stand there and look on while the left intimidate and Antifa calls for killing cops and cops are getting shot in the back. All this weatherman style tactic. And then they've got the nerve to have professors and leftist activists on CNN, MSNBC. We played clips of some of them earlier saying Trump's a fascist lay in front of the tanks if he has a military parade.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So again, I think that liberal professor that he played, I have no idea who this guy is. I've never heard of him before, but at the same time, I don't really necessarily think that I think that he might be a little Charlie, no, I think he's sincere, but I think he's a little more dramatic than maybe is required. I just can't. I mean, that is one of the most line by line examples of I know you are, but what am I? I think we've heard in a long time. To an extent.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Like think about just go just go fucking word for word what it is he is saying that let that the left has done and then just go to Charlottesville. Well there's that line by line. That is exactly what the Nazis did. Well, there's that. How many white supremacists have been interviewed on CNN or New York Times do? Yeah, exactly. Or the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:26:04 How many times are we going to listen to what white supremacists have to say? And then at the same, and then he's like, well, they let leftists on here saying that white supremacy is bad. Well, he's radical leftists. There's an even greater irony that you're not quite capturing and that is that he's saying that any time the Trump people and the Patriots want to get together, Antifa won't let him do it. And the only example he comes up with is an explicitly white supremacist rally.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Like I watched the video of Owen Schroyer trying to get into that rally and the rally is not like it's not a vigil for Katie Steinle, the girl who was accidentally killed by a stray bullet that ricocheted off the ground that misfired from a yes, undocumented immigrants gun. All those facts are absolutely fair, exhaustively discussed absolutely, but the rally wasn't a vigil for her as much as it was a collection and sounding off a gathering of people who were really mad about immigrants. And it was, it was an anti-immigration, anti, I mean, who knows, who knows the depths of
Starting point is 00:27:12 what the, you know, what was really in the heart of it. But that's what it was. It was, I watched, I watched the entire video. They weren't threatening with an AK 47 than any more than anybody is threatening everybody at open carry rallies. It's the exact same thing. You can't have it both ways, but again, it's fucking stupid and pointless for us to bring up hypocrisy.
Starting point is 00:27:32 So exactly. So we share. Exactly. Now, this is fun. Okay. It's next clip. All right. Alex Jones gets into symbology a little bit.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Oh, yes. So enjoy this very weird, very pseudo spiritual kind of wishy business. Okay. The pentagram is an upside down pentacle. A pentacle symbolizes humans ahead two arms and two legs to powerful, powerful symbol inverting it is about it upside down and them siphoning the energy off of the inversion because it creates major dark energy, major destruction, major, the universe is not in order. So these weak people go in and go, let me flip this upside down because they're so weak,
Starting point is 00:28:22 even though they only get a tiny bit of the evil power that's created by it. They still kind of go warming their hands to the fire of evil down briefly. No, we have launched a new site supply.com and it's in full or site. They censored us off Google ads and everything. So I thought, you know, let's create a site that we say is a sponsor, but it's really us and I thought, you know, I'm not going to do that. Even though it's, it's, it's true that it'd be a sponsor if it's our sub company that helps fund the operation.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's info wars. So they want to try to censor that when I try to run ads with it again. That's fine. It's a super fancy high tech shopping cart. So Alex made a very crucial error in that last bit there and that's what launched my investigation in earnest today. Yeah. We got into fortified supply.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Exactly. Yeah. This is the first time I've heard him plug it since he unveiled the fortified supply on December 5th of 2017. That's what got my brain thinking again. And one of the things that he said in there is very damning and that is he's giggling around about how it's us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It's us. Yeah. And that's going to be a problem for him. It should be to get into whether or not it will be is to be determined to get into exactly why I recommend all of you listening to go to knowledge fight dot com. I have an extensive write up about this full of documentation screenshots of Alex Jones's various contracts and legal documents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:47 He is operating what I believe and I think I think it's pretty clear although I don't want to say this you know as an accusation because if I'm wrong and some weird technicality I don't want to be charged with libel or slander or something like that. But it very much appears that he's operating fortified supply as an illegal alias for his company. Yeah. And that is a class A misdemeanor in Texas. And if he is doing this as it all evidence appears he is he could face up to a year in
Starting point is 00:30:19 prison. God wouldn't that be great. At least that threat would be awesome. You know what you know it's to me it's like it's like it comes down to things like that that he said on the show right like him admitting this is us. Yeah. That is our website. We could pretend it's someone else but it's us getting Al Capone on tax evasion charges.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Exactly. That's exactly what we you know for all the crimes that we have seen him commit borderline crime. This one's this one's kind of a big deal. Crimes of decency versus like right literal crimes right this I mean if I were just like talking about any other human I'd be like who cares. That's kind of a small thing and I kind of still think that about Alex but I also hate him.
Starting point is 00:31:09 So let's prosecute to the full extent of the law. Yeah. I guess that's kind of selective and philosophically problematic for us but at the same time we don't run a business really. Fuck Alex. Yeah. Fuck Alex. And by the end of this episode you're going to be feeling that even more.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Great. Yeah. One exactly to the jewel. How much power do the does the left get from the pentagram. Spelled jewel. J.O.U.L.E. It's a measurement of force. I was trying to think of what a reasonable number would be.
Starting point is 00:31:47 What's an unreasonable number. 75,000. It's a lot of jewels. That seems like too many jewels. Do you think there are any scientists who like try to start a cover band called run the jewels but J.O.U.L.E.S. Probably they did. No.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I'm going to go with the big no on that one. That's a hot Halloween costume. All right. No. I'm going to go with another big no on that one. I'm going to go with two straight no's. All right. Second.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Clearly what he just said was that the reason that he set up the fortified supply situation Yeah. And probably the reason that we're in the situation where we are with his lack of registration and the like. Yes. Is to get around Google's block. Google is not allowing his advertisements because of course they're not. Well I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And so if you don't have it associated with the Infowars brand you can put it up through Google and it won't give them the alerts. I don't know if the the it's a little bit complicated in terms of how you file a doing business as alias and that sort of thing. And us having this conversation right now would be a little bit difficult for me to explain all of that. No. No.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Start from the beginning and then six hours from now we'll get into end game. If you have a business that is like LLC or any other sort of business a corporation or anything like that you file your corporation and it has a certain name. If I started a corporation it would be Knowledge Fight LLC or whatever. Now if I wanted to start another show called Frees and Point Goods or something like that I sell something at Frees and Point Goods or whatever. What would you sell? Probably I don't know art.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'd sell drawings. Draw rings. I don't know. I got nothing to sell. So this is all very abstract and stupid. But if I were to do that I couldn't sell things as Frees and Point Goods or whatever with the company that I've started without creating a doing business as name. And to do that you have to file with the Secretary of State and the county clerk of the counties
Starting point is 00:33:52 that you're doing business in wherever you have an office. So I would need to do that and then these businesses would be exactly the same. Now in doing that, in filing that paperwork, I don't know if it would trigger Google or anything like that. I'm not certain that that is a way to get around the Google block. So that part of it is not explained by the explanation he gives there. No, no, no. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:34:17 But I'm not saying concretely that that is the case. I'm saying that that's what he's implying is the case. Well, but at the last time he talked about it in December he implied that the reason was to get around map agreements, minimum advertising prices, agreements that he signed with his suppliers. So his story is even changing in terms of what his motivation for doing this is. So I don't know. It's one of the most suspicious things I think I've encountered in terms of, and he's done
Starting point is 00:34:48 a lot of suspicious stuff. But this one's really big and I really hope people will pay attention and get the word out about this. Did Daria set up Fortified Supply? She may have. Is it a money laundering website? Well, see, that's where it comes into like we're in the realm of rampant speculation at that point.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I know. That's what I'm here for. It does have the potential to be that. That's one of the big reasons why it set off pretty serious red flags when I started looking into the nature of it. And that is the potential for taking in dark money under the table, the money laundering capabilities, or just hiding assets, hiding money. That sort of thing could be done very easily with a non-existent business that you're running
Starting point is 00:35:39 that has no tax identification, it has no attachment to your normal LLC. And to me, that's either sloppiness or a really desperate move. And I don't know which it is, and it might be a third option. I don't know. I mean, how many... Someone has to find out though. How much dark money has been run through your boys like a Manafort and those kinds of guys? It's not necessarily a desperation move.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It could be just a massive revenue stream. No, but see, the reason I label it as a desperation thing is because the history that Alex Jones has of being on the up and up with this sort of paperwork. Oh, that's true. Because you do see over and over again, like the various business names that he uses like Prison Planet, Info Wars, the Jones report he even filed one for. That's not even really a thing. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Anymore, that was a while back. So he has all that history of knowing what to do and doing the right thing. And I think now it might just be, I don't know. So I would narrow it down to three things that we would be looking at, either laziness or just lack of oversight. Sloppiness. Yeah. Could be desperation.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Could be. That, you know, whatever it is he's trying to avoid. Or it could be greed. And he's got somebody who's going to really throw a lot of money towards him. Or even let's add a fourth. It could be avarice. I'm not entirely sure the capabilities of it, but it's possible that through this sort of thing he could hide money from his ex-wife.
Starting point is 00:37:08 That's true. He does owe a massive amount in spousal support. Oh, that's a good point. It could be the sort of thing where he's trying to create a workaround. I don't know. Oh, shit. If he has standing, his ex-wife, she actually does to some extent. I don't exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I don't think with this, but with some of her other businesses, I believe she is listed as a, but she might have like, um, she might have like relinquished that in the divorce. I'm not entirely sure. I don't know. It's like the, it's like the Midas gold situation all over again where they're like, Hey, fuck this guy. He was trying to hide it from his wife, you know, like that kind of, you know, the other thing too that was weird that I came up with when I was looking over these records, like
Starting point is 00:37:51 just searching for various, you know, Alex Jones related records on, you found a lot of dead bees in your room. Well, in the like county clerk's office, there's tons of stuff that you can find. Like I found his marriage license from his first marriage to Kelly. Like I found that marriage license public from 2007. And the weird thing is he's married again. I couldn't find that. I don't know if that means that they're not legally married or what, or maybe they got
Starting point is 00:38:20 a license somewhere else. Yeah, they could have gone to Vegas or whatever. Yeah. I think you'd still have to have the license in where you habitat. I don't think so. I don't know how it works, but it's weird. I don't even believe in marriage, frankly, and either to see common law, common law marriage. Anyway, in this next clip, as long as the sheriff says that you're okay with marriage,
Starting point is 00:38:41 you're fine. We've rambled a little bit on this, but just because it's something that I've been, you know, really looking into a bit and extensively today, I think it's important. But the bottom line is something is up. Something is up with Alex's businesses and someone smarter with more access than us really needs to look at this. No, this is early smarter, but more access. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:04 More, more reach. Good call, only sponsored posts. Chances are he was married in international waters. That's probably, probably would happen. Anything goes. Admiralty. We'd come back to Admiralty law. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So in this next clip, Alex, you know, at the beginning of this show, he was pretty staunchly in favor of this military parade. Yes. At this point, he gets a little wishy-washy. All right. And you know why? Because at this point in the day. Tiananmen Square?
Starting point is 00:39:30 No. Rand Paul had come out and said that, hey, this is a dumb idea. Well, I will, I think Rand Paul's statement was that he'll support the military parade if Trump brings everyone home from Afghanistan. He ends the war in Afghanistan. Nice. So Alex now is like, oh, shit. That's a little bit, that's a little bit like the liberal professor with like, come
Starting point is 00:39:50 on, you're a little grandstanding there. A little bit, but at the same time it's in line with Rand Paul's principles and what he supposedly is for. And it's a good point. Yeah. And so Alex, I think is, it's much like the ghost of Christmas past is reminded of the principles he once had before he became a bootlicker for aspiring authoritarian. And he's like, ah, shit.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I gotta get wishy washy about this parade now. So he listened to this shit. I'm all for military parade, but he really needs to bring a bunch of troops home from these useless bases around the world that are bankrupting our country that have been serving the globalist. But we need to bring a lot of troops home and cut the military budget for stuff that is purely empire building. And Rand Paul has come out and said that as well, bring us troops home from Afghanistan
Starting point is 00:40:35 then throw the parade. But I just know what Trump's doing, triggering the leftist and making them come out and say they're going to attack the parade to show people the internal enemy and who they really are. Also, no one's going to attack the parade. No. Well, one, it's a military parade. That's a dumb idea.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Anyway, hold on. So I'm just saying he should bring some troops home from Iraq, like they're coming over my rack now. It's been announced almost all of them. So I guess that's probably what Trump's got in mind. You know, we always think, hey, Trump, I'll do this. He's five steps ahead. That's already been planned.
Starting point is 00:41:05 In fact, I bet that's what happens. But a great idea. Matt Drudge had a year ago now manifesting before going any further, I want to introduce you to our newest product. Got it. It's Icarin liver and kidney cleanse. It's got the strongest. Did you hear what the name of his new product is?
Starting point is 00:41:21 Icarin clan Icarin Icarin. You know what that is evocative of? Icar. Icarus. Oh, Icarus, son of Daedalus, creator of the labyrinth of where thesius slayed the Minotaur. See, I was thinking more like Icar or Icar, which is like the blood of a goblin or that kind of thing in Dungeons and Dragons. Boy, that is not appealing for a pill.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Fantasy nerd. Fine. No, I think that extends past just Dungeons and Dragons stuff because I've heard that too. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:56 It's a trope of fantasy literature. But still not appealing for a pill. No. It definitely gives the image in my mind of Icarus. That's the thing that comes chiefly to mind. And of course Icarus, son of Daedalus, Daedalus created wax wings in order to fly and he told his son Icarus. Which is Alex's next product, wax wings.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Wax wings. Oh, what if he came out with wax lips? For Valentine's Day, your wife's lips are too small. Got to be honest. Only sponsored post is killing it tonight. Also Ipacac. Oh, there you go. That's nice.
Starting point is 00:42:31 The point is, this is a terribly named product. Icarin. Not good. Very terrible. Very terrible. So what I want to do now is I want to make a rundown of before we get into the rest of the episode of some of the narratives that we will be missing. Just because.
Starting point is 00:42:47 A nice little what got cut segment. Yeah, more or less. I've already discussed the Victory Day celebration and stuff. Joseph McCarthy was right. We learned that on this episode. Sure. It was based on Russian files that have come out. Russian files.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah. The Russians. Love that show. Joseph McCarthy was right. And Alex is like, yeah, that makes sense. He gets really defensive because the Dow Jones went down another thousand points today. Bad day. And he's like, yeah, well, it's still got to go 7,000 more down to undo Trump.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Sure. Great. Sure. Great. That's fun. He gets really mad about Elon Musk shooting that car into space. I mean, I that's a legitimate grievance because it's a stunt and bullshit. What have you?
Starting point is 00:43:33 I mean, I think a Gil Scott Herron whenever, whenever Ellen Musk did that, I immediately went Whitey's on the moon immediately, a rat done bit my sister now and Elon Musk sent a fucking car into space. That's fair. But that's not as good a poem though. Not as good. But Alex, his take on it is like all these. This is a ritual.
Starting point is 00:43:57 This is evocative of that short. This is evocative of that movie, heavy metal. And so they do like this. He and Rob do created like a little special report where they, they point out that there's references to heavy metal. And as they're discussing that the car turns and you see on the dashboard, don't panic, which is a reference to. It's like Alex, you guys do not understand what you are doing.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Come on, man. That's a different reference. And so it's really dumb. That's pretty stupid. Just one thing, one thing to say on the parade and I wrote about this today, but I am all for it. I am so for this parade and I don't want anybody to say anything. I just want everybody to watch this parade because in America, we will all be like, oh,
Starting point is 00:44:51 this is sad. Well, do you remember? This is pathetic. I mean, at the inauguration, the, the, like parade that they had with all the empty bleachers and shit, like, imagine having a military parade like that. Like imagine, imagine the turnout being really terrible to a pomp and circumstance. Cause of course it would be. Well, you might get some jingoistic people.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You might get some of the people who are just like, I don't support him, but support the troops. You get those, you get those little girl singers and the American flag stuff. No, I think they're out. I think they're out. Yeah. They got screwed. Um, and so last leaf, uh, to get a surprise, somebody didn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Um, so some, uh, this one guy, I can't remember his name, it doesn't matter. I looked into it. It's nonsense. Uh, this guy, uh, testified, uh, not under oath, uh, and, uh, without a transcript. Great. Uh, that, uh, Hillary and the uranium one deal real serious. Oh, I saw that on like, uh, Fox news and the daily caller and all that shit. And also George Soros is doing shit all up in the.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah. Business again. Yeah. Um, and so like, I looked into it and like, this is not great. Uh, Adam Schiff and, uh, uh, I can't remember who the other, the other senator was, but they, they said that they talked to the department of justice and like this guy is not credible. He's lied to us in the past. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That sort of stuff. So, uh, it's suffice it to say like ice man from the, uh, Iraq war lead up. Oh, I thought you were talking about top gun. No, no, no. Also not trustworthy. Nor was I talking about, uh, the X man or the serial killer Kiklinski. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:29 A lot of ice. A lot of ice. Um, what I'm saying, there's your comic book right now. What I'm saying is I'm reserving judgment on this guy who gave testimony because he did show up. Now granted, it's not under oath. So there's no penalty for lying. It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Hey, who said it, but 90, 90% of success is just showing up. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, uh, it looks. Like, uh, our, uh, bud, uh, best Oswald donkey you, uh, he's just, he's just, uh, put into the chat room. I'm getting paid right now. It looks like the furlough is happening.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yay. Uh, so let's, uh, cheers. So there's going to be a, is that a, is that a government shutdown? What are we talking about here? I don't know. That's what I'm taking it to mean. Yeah. That sounds right.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Anyway, let's get to this next clip, uh, because this is fun. Yeah. Alex Jones does not know anything about Bitcoin. True. And he has consistently been like, I don't want to fucking get into this because he, he thinks that the, the secretive people behind Bitcoin or globalists or something like that. He has a lot of weird ideas about what's going on with Bitcoin because he's never really
Starting point is 00:47:39 looked into it or he doesn't understand the process of mining for Bitcoin or anything like that. So he, I would say he should just leave it alone. That would be a smart idea. I think he shouldn't touch it because the last time he talked about Bitcoin on the show, he had a Bitcoin expert on the show who was expert, a pizza gate weirdo named Dave Seaman expert rebranded himself, uh, and is now a Bitcoin expert. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So on today's show on, uh, he has max coins, February 8th. No, he has had max coin on before a lot and Max Kaiser is also really into Bitcoin, but be that as it may. He has this guy named Roger Ver on where do these people come from? Now I want to tell you something about Roger Ver. His name is dumb. It's very dumb. V E R. Um, he comes on to talk about, uh, Bitcoin and his own thing that's called Bitcoin
Starting point is 00:48:29 cash. God damn it. Right. Why do they always have their own version of this dumb shit? Because you got to make your own thing, man. I don't know. I respect that, but entrepreneurs. One thing that you should know about this dude is that he renounced his citizenship
Starting point is 00:48:46 a while back and now lives in Japan. Well, good for him. Yeah. Good on him. It's a great place to live. That's one thing you need to know. And that's why the Skype doesn't work. And so I can't play almost any of this interview.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Right. Right. It's terrible. Right. It's glitching out all over the place, but they get him back after they go to break, fix up some Skype issues and they come back with some calls and these calls are not good. And Alex, because he knows nothing about Bitcoin, can't handle any of it and it delights me to no end.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Okay. Again, this is very complex. I understand the basic generalities and how these systems work, but I don't, I can't vouch for you or the other groups want to be clear about that just because I'm not usually flying somewhat blind. Stay safe. I would disagree. It's up front.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Add some balance to this. Garrett in California, you're on the year worldwide with Roger Ver. Hey, Alex, big fan, love your supplement. Just want to say that the cash is just a fork at the original Bitcoin and it's a scam. It's a Chinese scam coin that this guy, Roger, has been arrested for some explosives and all this other crap is trying to push his own agenda and actually take down Bitcoin. Okay. I said arrested for what he was arrested for what he was arrested for selling explosives.
Starting point is 00:50:04 His B cash is basically just a fork of the original Bitcoin. I heard that part. Okay. Okay. We'll come back to you in a minute, Garrett. So that's this guy very well could be a paid operative trying to disrupt Bitcoin cash. It's very simple. The name is Bitcoin cash, not be cash be cash is a completely separate project, not related
Starting point is 00:50:22 at all to BCH, which is in reference to Bitcoin cash in reference to me selling explosives on the internet. That's absolutely true. Oh boy. That is a sentence I hope to say one day in reference to me selling explosives on the internet. That is absolutely true. Now this guy's probably a paid operative trying to spread trouble, but I did fucking
Starting point is 00:50:56 sell explosives on the internet. Where else are you going to sell them? You did 11 months in prison for selling explosives on the internet. He did 11 months in prison. Now what it turns out is it turns out that they were like illegal fireworks. And so I have a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of I immediately saw like cartoon bombs with a circle and the like giant fuse sticking out of it and the big skull on the front.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Yeah. I mean, I cut off this clip, but it goes on so much longer of him just being like, look, this is back when eBay used to sell guns and everybody, you know, like, look, I ran for office as a libertarian and I was against the gun lobby, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they just, of course they decide I'm against the police, you know, they decided to come against me and railroad me on the only person who got convicted. It's all victim shit. It's all like, it's all in that victim narrative, but I just love that it's, I love, I love
Starting point is 00:51:54 that this Bitcoin expert is like, yes, I did sell explosives on the internet, but you can trust me with this fake currency that I've invented. Right. And the other part that I love is Alex's, I did not know that he did time. I didn't Google my guest. I didn't do any research into this guy. So how does it go from there? Does that's even on his Wikipedia page? It should be.
Starting point is 00:52:22 It should be basic knowledge of this guy before, if you do any vetting of your guest, any of it, any, what is it? The third sentence on his Wikipedia page did 11 months in the pokey for selling bombs. So Alex doesn't know what to do at this point because he doesn't know anything about Bitcoin. This caller has made a point that, you know, Roger isn't really disputing that no one is prepared to deal with. And so here's Alex's take on it. He gives me a headache, Roger, because he seems like a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:52:54 He seems like a nice guy. I don't know what to believe. Okay. No, he just said it. What do you mean? You don't know what to believe. Both of them agreed that he did time. No, I think that's more in reference to the, like you being a scammer.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Oh, okay. Your Bitcoin operation being a scam. Right. I don't know what to believe. I don't look, you seem nice. He seems nice. You both sound white. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:53:15 That sort of thing. Like, oh, Jesus. You both sound white. So Alex fucks up and takes a second call. Oh, no. Drew in Indiana. You're on the air. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Hey, thanks, Alex. Uh, first I want to say it's well known in the Bitcoin community that Roger there is a scammer and this is his latest scam. Um, just hours before this interview, he manipulated the price of Bitcoin cash up 25% just to push his narrative. And I do have a question for him. He's been telling everyone that Craig Wright is the Toshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin.
Starting point is 00:53:48 But it can be easily proven through cryptography by signing the Genesis block. So real quick, um, I've cut out his, uh, Roger Ver's response to this cause it's pointless. Cause why he just says, I've never said that in public. And he's got nothing to say, which is weird defense. I've never said that in public. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Very weird. Say it in private all the time. It's more interesting what Alex Jones does. Cause he's out of his depth. He has no idea what this, the Genesis block means. He has no idea what a Bitcoin even is. Right. He has no idea why it was up at 17 grand and now it's down at eight.
Starting point is 00:54:21 He doesn't even know that Roger Ver did time. He doesn't know who Roger Ver is. He doesn't know any of this shit. So this response is really funny, which means proving that he minded the first to Bitcoin. Um, he cannot do that, but Roger continues telling people that this guy is the Toshi Nakamoto, which, which is a lie. He must release the core of Cybertron, the heart of our world.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Will you release the core? Why haven't you traded a single? Will you release the cube? Trust the cube. Are you Megatron? Roger Ver, are you Megatron? If so, prepare for battle. So that's the radio version of saying, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah, check out. Nah, nah, dude. You said words, you said words, I'm out. Yeah, you guys both seem to understand what you're talking about. And I'm, I'm the host of the show and I'm not in for it. So guess what? Fuck you guys. Megatron, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Are you Megatron? Yeah, spoiler alert. Roger Ver's answer to that is I am not Megatron. Now that's, that's beautiful. There's a certain joy. There's a certain joy coming from my heart. Right. And that's, that's great that we could have this time.
Starting point is 00:55:38 God damn you, Dan. Are you about to take that? Are you taking, are you about to take it away from me? I'm not. It's just that what we're about to get into is like a very weird last hour and a half of his program. Okay. It's very weird.
Starting point is 00:55:54 He's in a very strange place and it's not entirely clear like what's going on in his head, but it's something that's unhealthy. I'm not entirely sure what it is. We'll discuss it. Uh, but one more thing that I want to bring up is that Alex Jones is very dismissive of the charges, uh, that, uh, the ex-wives of, uh, this porter guy. Oh no, I don't, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't want to hear him talk about this at all. I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We're not listening to it. Okay. I just wanted it to be on the record. I just wanted everyone to know that on the show, Alex is saying it's just minor stuff. Yeah. But that could be assumed. The, oh, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 No, that Alex, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you not know? I get you. No, I get what you're saying. Do not take that out of context. I get what you're saying. I mean, that Alex would say that can be assumed. I get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I just misunderstood you for a second. Yeah. Please don't, please don't. This next clip, Jordan, is incredibly bizarre, totally bizarre, but still not terrible. The last like 16 minutes of this episode are going to be terrible. All right. So just know that right now enjoy this while you can. 16 minutes of our episode.
Starting point is 00:57:08 No, God damn it. 16 minutes of Alex, so 48 minutes of our episode, it's entirely possible. This is going to be a seven and a half hour, maybe two hours. We probably get an hour left probably halfway through this baby. So this, this clip, first of all, the beginning of it makes me laugh a lot. And then the second that we get sad. No, the second part just makes me understand how Alex Jones, uh, interfaces with the world and it's super fascinating.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And it's just, I mean, it just reinforces stuff that, uh, I mean, we've been saying for a fucking year, but Alex lays it out in ways that he thinks he's bragging, but he's actually revealing that he's dumb. Anyway, I'm going to split this in half. Let's enjoy the beginning. Okay. You know, there's some subjects that are so big that I have a tendency to say I'm going to cover them and then I just don't cover it because.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Agreed. So much breaks. So much breaks during the show that by the time I'm three hours in, I'm not really tired. I'm more relaxed and then I remember the topic I was going to cover and don't feel the same outrage. And then I feel like it's not a proper time to cover it. So real quick, that's the first part of this.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Alex is straight up admitting that like, by the time I was on the show, I was kind of lazy. I'm in a groove. I was feeling relaxed and I just can't fake the anger that I can at the beginning of the show. So I want to scream about these topics, but by the time it gets to this point in the show, kind of the want to nap. I was like, I did an interview with this Bitcoin guy.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I was eating a sandwich while he was talking and like, I just, I'm sleepy. I had this shit I wanted to talk about and look, I'm mad about it. Don't get me wrong. I've been talking about it for a long time, I've been talking about it for a long long time I was like, we've never talked about it. We've never talked about it? I said, I just can't talk about it. Well, I'm mad about it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Don't get me wrong. I'm fucking mad about it, but I just can't get it up. I just can't fake it. That's what he's saying. Yeah, that's a hundred percent what he's saying. Yeah, I agree. He's saying, his anger is performative. He's saying that all of this is like shit.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It's tough late in the show, which actually, I strongly disagree with. I find that most of the time when he's faking it, the hardest, it's in the third and feel it. That's when he's like crying. That's when the spirit gets good to him. Right. So anyway, the rest of this clip, Nellie. Oh, Nellie. No, so much fun. Don't. This is really fun.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I'm trying to explain why I do some of these things that I can't stand. And also, I know what the media's response is going to be. And it's not that the media attacks me and lies about me when I cover these topics. It's that it's not that I'm being attacked against me. It's that I know this is the key. Some of these certain areas. None of this is going to make sense. And that's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It'll all he's speaking. Only time you could. This show is the only time you can say that. And I'm like, cool. He's speaking in tremendous vagaries, and it's not really going to come together for a while, but you'll get it. You'll get it eventually. All right. There's a lot of keys, but there's compared to all the rest of the information
Starting point is 01:00:23 in the world. It's very rare. And we have the keys. We have the absolute keys. We know the enemy program. We understand it. We're not that smart. I read the books written by them. I read the books.
Starting point is 01:00:41 No spoiler alert. You know, you have it. I have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them. And I would have a totally different person. If I hadn't. Stopped reading. Children's books when I was about seven years old and. Started reading.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Adult books. That's not good. Not the way to go about it. So seven years old is probably first grade, maybe round about second grade. Yeah. There's no way that. I mean, 95% of humans have the, I would say, even, even higher than that. 98% of humans.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Dan at that age, genetic learning, race memory, race memory. No, I don't Dan four ways to learn the ability, like the cognitive development that it that's required to even really understand full sentences and, you know, complex dialogue, complex narratives are, it's almost impossible at age seven. I was just about to start reading Brian Jax's red wall series. Right. He was, he was reading the lesser works of Joyce. Now, see, you shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:01:57 No, I'm, I'm not saying that Dubliners is a huge, a hugely difficult thing to read. It's a, but yes, it is. And he will never understand Dubliners. Dubliners is a hit with the elementary set. Yeah, the problem is you can. Although actually elementary kids might understand Finnegan's wake a lot better than some of the English majors I knew in college, but that's more about them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 The problem is that like you can physically read anything at any age. You just can't understand it. You can't understand the, like the textural deepnesses of things. You can't understand subtext. You can't understand rhetoric, those sorts of things. You, and you really can't until, you know, I would say like for a lot of this complicated stuff, probably into your teens. Oh, I mean, well, a lot of people still don't understand the first
Starting point is 01:02:48 sentence of a pride and prejudice. I don't know if I do. Yeah. Anyway, let's, let's keep this going. And it was all because my dad loved encyclopedias and he would, they would not buy me very few toys and have to go, your bow lawns to get a new bike. It was good. It taught me how to work, but my dad would buy me any books I wanted.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And so I'd say I'd get home from school or after practice or whatever. They'd have time life books, the wall, wall, wester. Time life books, the occult or time life books, world war two, time life books, Vietnam, time. Those are largely just like magazines. Time life books. Yeah. I mean, they're like magazine books.
Starting point is 01:03:28 You know what I'm saying? Are they like, they're like serialized books. I remember my dad had some of those in my house when I, I think I saw like an infomercial for those one time or like a commercial, but I don't know. I don't know what they are. Yeah. But you kind of do, even though you don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'm like books, you know, the Manhattan project and other super science, you know, projects or whatever. And I would, those things would come so many that there was just, because my dad's a big book guy, the whole house was just bookshelves that. Funny kind of the age of TV. It's not with computers in his house now. It's got a lot of bookshelves, but other like the old house in Dallas. And it was just walls of them.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And it was like, I mean, I read 20 volume set world war two by the time I was eight years old. That's not a bad idea. And that was just an encyclopedia on world war two. Well, how many world war two historians actually read that? You see, and that's kind of entry level. By 11, I was reading order of the death set. Fifth grade, 1100 pages or whatever that 900 pages and shears rise and fall.
Starting point is 01:04:28 The third, right? Then one was just one study in world war two. I've probably read 200 books on world war two. And I'm not bragging about it. I just get around historians and people they don't know half of what I know. And it's all embedded in there. And then I studied everything else. And then my dad said, you want to read this?
Starting point is 01:04:47 Is it written? Technotronic era. So this gets to the heart of the matter and that is that Alex Jones read all of these things that he cites before he had cognition to understand them and that created a framework in his brain when he was seven, eight, 10 years old. If he, if he did, isn't mature. If he is telling the truth. No, I believe that he skimmed through those books or the process of reading them.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Right. But to be honest, like the technotronic era is it's a difficult book to read. It's engageable as a 30 year old or if you're in college or something like that. It's about, it's about right. If you're a 10 year old, even reading that, it's going to take you a couple months probably because every sentence you're going to have to be like, what does this mean? Or you won't.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Right. I mean, if you like, and I, I mean, if you are reading World War Two books at eight years old, if you're reading books about World War Two at eight years old, I think it's entirely reasonable for an eight year old to be like, Hitler was a strong dude. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah, like in that case, in that case, at that time period, it's not real. And that time period, you're, you're, you're reading comic books.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Well, because you lack context. Exactly. So you lack any framework of the world or anything like that. Yeah, totally. I get that. It's like, it's like somebody saying that the Joker is a great character, you know, like that kind of thing. He's a great character.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He's the monster though. Right. You know, like when you're, when you go back and read that shit in reality, you go, Oh, look at all of this other stuff. That's what a fucking monster is. And if you are from that very young age, inclined to believe that the strongest or the most ruthless is admirable, then you get your Alex Jones. And if you're reading, like all of these World War two, he's read 200 books.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I mean, he's, you know, presenting that as being over the course of his life. Right. But if you, I don't think he's read hundreds of books. I don't think he's ever read hundreds of books. But if you, if you're, if you're like reading a lion's share of that, a bulk of it, when you're younger than 11, right, I just, I just don't think that you're going to be able to critically analyze the viewpoint of the writer.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I think that that's, it's, it's a decent chance that he might have read some like even possibly pro Nazi. Well, if his dad's a CIA dentist, or at least dubiously authored books, I mean, the best, the best evidence for his inability to, if again, if this is true, which I have a healthy suspicion about, right? You can, you can see from his vocabulary that he is unable to comprehend that. Like if he had read Calvin and Hobbes when he was a child, he would have a better vocabulary than if he had read a World War two books that he doesn't
Starting point is 01:08:06 understand. I'm not certain I understand all of Calvin and Hobbes. It's, there's very complicated issues that are built into it. It's a great, great comic. I recommend it for children. But I think that this that and Zabignu Brzezinski books, I also do. But I think that, um, I think that this issue has plagued him throughout his life and that he functions in the world with that childhood cognition in an
Starting point is 01:08:27 adult, angry body, right? He exists as this really furious, I've read all these books. And it's like, you don't understand the books. Like, cause I can go to all of them and I have, I mean, I haven't read everything that he claims to have read, but I've read so many of the things that he's cited specifically and they don't say what he's saying, right? Like a lot of times he pretends that they're prescriptive, like they're saying this should happen or something like that when they're just descriptive.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yeah, they're just explaining the situation or they're explaining the world as it is and not offering a solution. And because he's a child in his brain, he's like, Oh, what they're secretly saying is that this is the hellscape we should live in. And this is a reasonable thing if you aren't capable of growing out of it. Like a separate piece, like that shitty book. When I was like 13, I read that and I thought it was a shitty book. And then I reread it later on in life and I understood the depth and the
Starting point is 01:09:32 point of views that are built into it. It's a shitty book, but it's still, it's much more meaningful now that I'm capable of understanding what that guy was fucking talking about. Totally. Because I don't, at 13, I didn't really understand the mindset of children going to war. I love how could you do that before I could drink. No, there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that you should age through.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Right. Or you should, that's one of the interesting things about, or you should absolutely revisit as your perception changes. Right. You'll find that the book itself changes. Abs a fucking loot. Yeah. The only thing that doesn't is Steppenwolf, the best book of all time.
Starting point is 01:10:12 All right. All right. But it actually has changed even in my life, but I still love it each time. Ooh. Are you okay? No, I was just thinking about the other book I was going to do an audio book. No, no, no, no journey to the end of the night is a more deeply problematic. LFC lean is a.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Ah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. So anyway, in this next clip for any listener who wants to look into it. That book is so good, but the man is so terrible. Yeah. But in this next clip, Alex makes a weird claim about Hollywood. Sounds right. That's good enough of an intro. I've gotten to know people at the highest levels of Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And since the whole. Cause I collapsed of it. I've gotten to know people that are in this conservative secret society, big producers, some of the biggest and none of them live in Hollywood. None of them want to be anywhere near it. And they try to just do decent stuff. And strangely enough, everything they do is a hit. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 01:11:21 01:11:21,980 --> 01:11:22,500 Yes. The most successful people long range in Hollywood are the libertarian, Christian conservative Patriots. Cause you know what? That's what America wants anyway. See, that's the crazy thing about this. That's very convenient.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That's super convenient. You know, for somebody who loves to give examples, he does not give any examples. No, of course not. Cause it's a, it's a vague nonsense thing. Like give, give an example. Like what, like what are we talking about? I don't know. I mean, when I think of like secret Hollywood Patriots that he talks about,
Starting point is 01:11:54 there's always a, there's always Jay Leno, Tim Allen, Tim Allen. Well, he's not so secret. Uh, Clint Eastwood, he brings up, but he's not secret either. Nope. Um, I don't know. There's all this talk of like, there's a large group of secret conservatives in Hollywood and I don't really fucking care about that. Cause I don't, I don't necessarily think it's real and I don't care.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Cause there's a lot of very powerful conservatives who are out and it doesn't really seem to be that much of a stigma. We've talked about the rock already. Yeah. Uh, which is such a disappointing revelation, revelation, not realization. Yeah. But even just on a, on a very specific level, it doesn't change how I think about the rock now.
Starting point is 01:12:37 I don't think anyone cares unless you are, let's say a white supremacist, you know, well, hey, Schwarzenegger was a shitty governor, but Terminator two is still great. Right. Right. You know, so, but, but like, I don't, I don't believe that this, this, uh, this mythic secret society of conservatives in Hollywood exists.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I don't believe that Alex has talked to them, but it's so fun. It's this game. He gets to play where he's like, I have this secret knowledge of these secret conservatives and guess what? They're the most successful. Who would guess don't have to prove anything. That's why the left behind series is bigger than Harry Potter. Everybody knows this totally.
Starting point is 01:13:18 That's what, that's what Americans want. It's what they want. Um, so they don't want this fucking wizard bullshit. You know that the Lord has said that you should burn witches. Totally. Yeah. Um, so, I mean, he does actually have one pivot point or like hinge to his, uh, Hollywood ramblings, uh, in this episode that I agree with him on and I'm not
Starting point is 01:13:42 going to dispute. Um, and that is that one guy is a piece of shit. Uh, I'm not going to reveal who that person is because it's more fun because it's not going to be who it should be. No, this clip is going to lay out who it is, but it's going to take Alex forever to get to it and it's one of the creepier things I've ever heard. Okay. I don't know what Alex is talking about in this clip and we're going to have
Starting point is 01:14:07 to analyze this a bit, but the conclusion, I will be taking extensive notes. The conclusion of who he doesn't like. I agree. They don't just want to abuse women or men or anybody. They want power. They want to mess with people. They want to kick your pregnant wife down the stairs and have her have a miscarriage and have it done in your place with your people so that everybody
Starting point is 01:14:30 can say that Alex shows did it, but I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person. I move forward, but I decided just right in my heart now to come after you. So hold on, hold on. What was 16 years ago? Well, did he kick his wife downstairs? I think he's accusing someone of kicking his wife down the stairs. I think he's revealing that he kicked his wife downstairs.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I don't know what's going on. That's one of the most terrifying things that why did he say 16 years ago? That'd be 2002. I don't like that at all. That'd be. Well, when I first heard this, I was like, well, I mean, it was right after we're nine 11, right? It was a tough time for everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:15 It was a tough time for everybody. I thought because he ends up getting threatening towards somebody at the end of this clip and I thought like 2002 is probably right around when he might have still been working with Link later. He's like, Link later, a fucking asshole. That's possible. So later kick his wife downstairs. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It's not link later, but that's the fucking thing. Is he literally talking about someone kicking his wife down the stairs and causing a miscarriage to try and frame him? Right. What the fuck is he talking about? Cause he didn't say, cause Burroughs was dead by then, so we know it wasn't him. I want you to scroll back. I want to scroll back a tiny bit so you can hear that again.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Cause that's so weird. Alex shows did it, but I made a decision that even though that was 16 years ago, I'm not normally a vengeful person. I move forward, but I decided just right in my heart now to come after you. And so I am starting next week. Oh yeah, people like me tell you, we're coming and we walk into traps. So that's what this is all about. You operate the dark, I operate the light.
Starting point is 01:16:20 We'll see how you do when I drag your ass out in the light because you're never going to get away with what you've done, all the things you've engaged in. And I think the fall of that piece of crap where he has worshiped in Hollywood, not because his films, the very worst produced ever. They're just soft, fisted crap. Way bold, but because he's a degenerate, filthy scumbag. And I think it's time we have people on. To talk about Clinton Tarantino.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Oh yeah. So actually, I guessed that one. You did. Yeah, yeah, the notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, because Quentin Tarantino was just just came out. Or the audio was revealed of him being like, eh, that girl that Roman Polanski
Starting point is 01:17:14 raped, she, she wanted it, like that kind of thing. And among other things, he's a fucking pile of shit. Yeah, he's a pile of shit. Yeah. The Uma Thurma shit, the Uma Thurma shit, like that whole thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't think anybody is surprised by that either, right?
Starting point is 01:17:30 No, like we're, we're all like, oh, we didn't know, but yeah, that sounds right, there's a difference for us and people who work in the business. Right. You know what I mean? Like for us, we'll never do that. Well, no, not, not that. It's, it's like, we didn't know, but you hear and you're like, yep, yep. Yeah, I smelled that.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Yeah. But like, we have no idea what people's personal lives are. Right. There are people who are monstrous people in character, you know, but who are actually awesome. Right. You could take a long list of like professional wrestlers who were the classic heels who behind the scenes were the sweetest people in the world.
Starting point is 01:18:12 You know, their whole public percept persona is like, I cheat and brutalize people and beat them to beat them down. Yeah. And they're super nice. And the, the opposite is true, like traveling around doing, doing enough shows with clean comics who do all Christian shows. Totally. And you're like, ooh, you're a fucking monster in real life all the time.
Starting point is 01:18:33 And so there's, there is that like, that sense of like, you don't really know from the outside, right? But when you hear, you're like, yep, makes sense. Yeah. Cool. That's how I felt about Quentin Tarantino for a long time. And I'd heard some things really been thrilled with him. Like, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah, I like some of his movies. I think some of them are sophisticated garbage. I think Alex is like, like film criticism is even not too far off there. It's, it's, it's within the realm of okay, um, we agree with Alex, bring back the troops and some of Quentin Tarantino's films are sophisticated garbage. I'm more concerned about the idea that Quentin Tarantino kicked his wife down a flight of stairs. I thought, I wait, Quentin Tarantino kicked Alex's wife down the flight of stairs.
Starting point is 01:19:20 That's what that fucking clip kind of sounds like it says that. Yeah. And if that's the case, I want to know way, I want to know way more about that. Yeah. But we learn nothing about it. How, why would you say 16 years ago? If you weren't referencing a specific time, your wife was kicked down the stairs, you know, I think most likely, I mean, if it's the case, the Quentin
Starting point is 01:19:46 Tarantino kicked Alex Jones's wife down a flight of stairs, which ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first. By the way, I told you earlier in the show, I found their marriage license. They were my married in 2007, which is five years after 16 years ago. But be that as it may, was he common law married? Was he married Admiralty law? No, that was his first wife. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Uh, but like, was it though? If that's the case, then I feel very sad for Alex and his, uh, ex ex-wife. Um, yeah, that's awful. I need to know more about it. But realistically, realistically, let's look Occam's razor. He was riffing on globalists and what they want to do to you. Right. And then he was like, Oh, wait, I was wrong by somebody.
Starting point is 01:20:32 And he's probably referencing 16 years ago, human Quentin Tarantino. Like got into a fight. They got into an argument because Quentin Tarantino has roots in Austin in Texas. Yeah. And so I, I, or, or Alex was with, uh, link later at the time. He got invited to a party, Quentin Tarantino or Mike judge even, or Mike judge. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:52 There's no doubt that like Alex is an asshole and another asshole mixes in with an asshole cause Quentin Tarantino is an asshole. The two of them just become assholes together. And then they have a fight and no one wins. Right. That's probably the most collateral damage of, uh, innocent person getting that's probably over. Well, not the kick down to stairs.
Starting point is 01:21:12 That's probably just riffing. Okay. Probably 16 years. Oh God, I don't know. I'm so God to know why he said 16 years. This begs so many questions. And this is why I want to be friends with Alex, even though I want to destroy him. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:26 So I can call him back. What were you talking about? I want us to be like, jocular enemies to an extent. So I can never cease. Right. So I can like, hit him up on Twitter and be like, Alex, you were getting weird. Yeah. What the fuck were you talking about?
Starting point is 01:21:41 And he's like, Oh no, that was just riffing, man. I look right, right. Me and Mike judge were pretty liquored up. You want to, you want to know the, the Alex without the trappings. Or we can wait till next week and see what comes out. Cause he said next week he's going to start taking down. That's a good point. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:22:00 Quite frankly, if he just takes Quentin D'Arandino down on the merits. I'm all for it. I'm not really going to fight that. Do what you do, baby. Right. As long as you're not lying and exaggerating for no reason. I'm cool. It's, it's so strange that Alex assumes that many of his critics have a dog in
Starting point is 01:22:21 the fight. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. Like he's like, Oh, you guys are going to defend Quentin Tarantino. We're like, we're like, yeah, no, no, no, fuck him too. I don't, I don't give a shit. Let's watch, watch you both light each other on fire.
Starting point is 01:22:33 It's hilarious. Like he loves the idea of, uh, like uniformity of, uh, what he's opposed to. Yeah. Without realizing there's gradients within it. Cause he's super mad about feminism, but there's a large portion of feminism that's trans exclusionary. Right. You know, like, so there's that, like he would kind of be into that to some
Starting point is 01:22:54 extent or, or whatever, you know, like there are, there are different segments of the groups that he's against. It's not unipolar. Right. Like let's even look at our podcast. We're not unipolar. No, you and I have different, like, uh, philosophical or principled beliefs. Like if Alex was just like knowledge fight is one thing that's against me.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Like, hey, realistically me and Jordan both hate you, but, but there's nuance to it. There's differences. See that's, that's the thing about people with black and white worldviews is that they will always project that onto everybody else. Definitely. So if you have a dichotomy, you all, you will always project that everyone else has a dichotomy as well. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:39 You will never be capable of understanding that fuck that guy. Fuck you for whatever reason. Like it has nothing to do with, with whatever it is I'm criticizing certain things about. Fuck you on the merits. Uh, and, uh, oh, unfortunately that works both ways. It's a two edged sword. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Who gives a, who gives a shit? I like, I love kill Bill, but I'm not going to defend Quentin Tarantino. I like glorious bastards. Right. I mean, I like. Jordan now is not the time to get into divorcing the art from the artist. I feel like that's a long conversation. No, and there's people who are way worse than him and, uh, people who are worse
Starting point is 01:24:19 artists also, I who cares, who cares? It's not important, not our, not our, not our litigation. We, we, uh, we must do now. We have one, uh, uh, segment left to do of the good one. Nope. We're done with the good. Oh, now we're going to the 16 minutes of, uh, we're getting, we're going to get into the blitz, but before we do, I must take a quick intermission.
Starting point is 01:24:42 I apologize because this is a late night show, but, uh, Chaboy got a P and I got to be focused for the rest of this. We're going to edit this out for the, uh, I'll be back in about two minutes. All right, we'll be back. Sorry about that, guys. All right, we're back. All right, we're back. Uh, I apologize.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Sorry about that. But, uh, the reality is we have, uh, you know, we got this home stretch to get through and wanted to keep my, uh, keep my focus on point. You didn't want to, you didn't want a third hour like Alex Jones. You didn't want to bring up the, uh, the fake energy. Well, and also I didn't want to be like, uh, sometimes when, uh, the, the body is, uh, doing things, you end up rushing through something and you lose track of the mission at hand, which is discussing things, uh, in the proper context as they
Starting point is 01:25:29 should be discussed and I don't want to do that. So, Or you could say you had to pee. I had to pee. Yeah. Uh, so let's get into this, Jordan. Yeah. The last hour or so of Alex Jones's show turns into, like it, it started with
Starting point is 01:25:47 that clip where he's like, I faked most of my anger and started bad. It's going to get worse. Well, that's where everything got weird. Cause he was like, run out of guests that Bitcoin guest did not go well. No. Uh, and he's just like, I sometimes can't. Yes. I did go to jail for selling explosives.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Fair enough. Yeah. He's like, I can't fake it sometimes when it gets to this late in the show. Blah, blah, blah. Right. Um, and so that's where it kind of started. And then he's like, I've read lots of books. Don't fucking come to me and say, I haven't got a little defensive about that.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Right. I'm not bragging, but historians are stupid compared to me. Don't step, um, all that come at the king. Best not miss. And if you, if you remember when he was getting into that, he was talking about like, this is the key, but he never got to it. They do have the keys, which in my notes, I wrote keys to question mark. And what do they have the keys to?
Starting point is 01:26:40 Well, and I told you, this isn't going to make sense. And don't worry about it. I know here's where it is a frustrating thing to say. Well, and here's where we get to it. Um, we got a long, we got long clips. So we're just going to be pausing throughout. Okay. There's really no edit points throughout these.
Starting point is 01:26:57 They're, boy, this is, uh, this is, this is a lot of trouble. So let's jump in. This is where this, this clip starts with Alex Jones. I think he thinks he's Paul Revere. Um, it's weird. It's very weird, but it's also self-reflective in a way. Let's just, you know what? That's a really salient comparison to make because Paul Revere historically is
Starting point is 01:27:22 far more celebrated than the female counterpart of Paul Revere, who is far more effective. And so whose name you don't even remember, Alex Jones. Yeah, I know that trivia, but you don't know, I know, I don't remember her fucking name cause I'm a piece of shit. God damn it. I hate myself. I called you out on it, but I don't really know.
Starting point is 01:27:38 No, no, I, I, I think it's a valid criticism and I apologize. I should know that. I do too. I have a tendency to get into the forest instead of just describing it as a forest. I have a tendency to start getting into long historical diatribes and. Well, no, you are supposed to say the trees somewhere. That's what he was looking for. Yeah, but then he's like, I just get into these historical diatribes.
Starting point is 01:28:04 I tend to get into the forest and I forget to talk about the forest. Hmm, that's not how that goes, but continue. Giving evidence, Sherry, information out. Nope. Instead of just being Paul Revere, one is by land to it by sea. And here come the red coats. So he starts riding down the road saying the red coats are he didn't say I was there and I saw him landing and they were on their horses and they had
Starting point is 01:28:30 trips marching with weapons and they had red uniforms with gold buttons. And I saw the general behind him at least 10,000. He said to arms to arms. The red coats have landed the British are here. Why can't I just say that? Well, a lot of reasons because they will then take what I say and twist it. I'm going to say this up front and they're going to ignore it and they're going to lie about what I'm saying because they don't want you to see it.
Starting point is 01:29:06 So I just want to be clear. I am keeping everything in, including Alex saying that people who are going to cover this are going to take it out of context and twist it. Right. I promise you, Alex. I hate you and I respect you enough not to do that. So to begin, here is what he has said. Instead of giving specifics, historical evidence, I should shout
Starting point is 01:29:35 unverifiable nonsense. Well, that's actually kind of the, I mean, that's exactly what he said. But yeah, but in terms of that is like a self assessment. If this was therapy, I'd be like, well, yeah, the problem is solved. You do just you do that exactly. Yeah, which he's going to continue to do. But in a very ugly, ugly way, this is very ugly. I can't stress this enough.
Starting point is 01:29:57 We'll have some fun with it. I don't. But this is so ugly. Don't trust you anymore. And I know you as an audience see it, but I'm talking about the general public. It's in the white papers. It's in the text. Now they're saying it in the news that in the fifties and sixties, the
Starting point is 01:30:17 decision was made that there was overpopulation. They were going to adopt eugenics based ideas of chemicals in the food, in the water to lower fertility, the lower IQ to make the general public more manageable. And that's an eco science written by the White House science are Obama Holdren in 1974. He wrote that science are decades later. Alex has not read this whole book. I have read most of it and I've read the relevant passages that he is talking
Starting point is 01:30:44 about in great detail. I've read the surrounding text, the contextual pieces of it. This is a textbook about eco science. They don't advocate for putting anything in the water. They don't talk about, they don't advocate for eugenics. Not really. Not, not in any extreme way, especially, right? You know, 1974 style, right?
Starting point is 01:31:09 Which eugenics wasn't really even all that popular in 1974. Well, because when you look. No, I mean, if you, if he's describing the fifties and sixties, eugenics was pretty popular or even before that. And if he was going to talk about the thirties, dude, eugenics was the deal. Right. It was a little bit different than our understanding of eugenics. Still not great, but much, much different than the hit Larry inversion.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Yeah. Eugenics. I mean, there's a difference between racial eugenics and like strictly scientific eugenics. Neither is great, but there's a thin line. There's a, there's a conversation to be had. But yeah, it's important to note again that Hitler's eugenics was begun and uh, derived from American eugenics.
Starting point is 01:31:53 There's a lot of that. Yeah. But I have read most of John P. Holdren's eco science textbook. It's like a thousand something pages long. And I, I fucking love it. I think it's great. It taught me a lot about geology.
Starting point is 01:32:06 It taught me a lot about water distribution patterns. Okay. There's, there's a ton of really great things to learn it because it's a fucking textbook. It's not a white paper in some way. It was a textbook about ecological science and the parts that paper it was written on was beige. Alex is taking so much of this out of context.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Yeah. We'll get into much greater detail about this, uh, in the end game, uh, documentary because he brings that up and we'll get into it, but just suffice it to say he's, he's completely lying about that. This idea of like depopulation even is based on a whole bunch of misrepresented things that like, uh, Kissinger wrote back in the seventies, uh, which are, again, it comes back to this difference between prescriptive and descriptive language.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Yeah. Talking like there's this, also it's hard to out evil Kissinger. Right. You know, like, it comes back to this side Kissinger on his own merits. You don't need to, uh, you don't need to put him, uh, uh, in a, in a weird, uh, situation beyond what the bullshit he wrote. Well, it comes back to that whole thing where I'm like, I don't want to be defending George Soros.
Starting point is 01:33:18 He's a fucking billionaire window. Right. I don't want to do that, but he is not a Nazi collaborator in the sense that you are describing him, Alex. That is unfair in the same way, uh, fucking Kissinger is a monster, but the way Alex describes him in terms of like advocating for 80% of the population to be killed is absolutely not true. It's a misreading of things that he wrote because Alex is still reading on a
Starting point is 01:33:41 seventh grade or seven year old level, which is weird because you might actually be able to make a good argument for Kissinger being a Nazi collaborator. Like that's a better than Soros. Oh, way better than Soros. Anyway, the number of genocides that Kissinger had his hands in anyways. Yeah. See, I'm already getting into the evidence instead of just giving you the
Starting point is 01:34:07 general announcement, then I can get into the evidence and you can research the evidence for yourself because don't you want to research the evidence, which is bigger than I can even describe. I have better than I even know you don't always endless reams of evidence. It's, it's so gargantuan that it's like standing on Kona, the big island in Hawaii, beautiful island chain. Hawaii is the big island. Ain't most remote in the world to say.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Kona is a city. I grew up in Hawaii. I lived on Oahu, the city of Honolulu. Spent a lot of time on the islands. It was a good time. How you doing? How you doing, Dave? Hawaii is called the big island.
Starting point is 01:34:52 That's its nickname. This entire episode has been you waiting to say that. No, actually, when I was editing clips, I didn't even, you didn't even recognize that. Oh man, but, but it's fun because this is an example of Alex. Like he started the clip about being like, I get into like, I just get into the weeds about stuff. I talk about like historical evidence and all the minutiae instead of just
Starting point is 01:35:14 being John Paul Revere yelling, the British are coming and now he's getting into the weeds, but it's not historical evidence or any factual truth. It's just him rambling. It's just him saying things. Yeah. Also that aren't like Paul Revere. Wait, best, best Oswald donkey.
Starting point is 01:35:31 You grew up in Honolulu too. What the fuck? Oh, shit. Did you, did you go to Ali Elani High School, elementary school? Also, how old are you? I'm 33. Did we go to elementary school together? It's getting weird.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Let's get back to the clip. Okay. And proved to me there's a Pacific Ocean. And I just look at you and I say, well, I was brought up in the 20th century and the 21st century and we have satellites and I flew here and it's real and exist. And they call it Pacific Ocean. Here's the history of it. And it's the largest ocean of 76% of our landmass covered by saltwater, 1%
Starting point is 01:36:05 fresh water, not counting aquifers, 2% below ground and aggregate scans may have 55% water and geographical coverage on the surface landmass. But if you actually look at it like the skin of an apple, it's, it's, it's, it's the whole atmosphere systems only. It's rambling on saying shut up and he's just listing off numbers and shit like that. But like, uh, also, uh, I don't know what red hill elementary is. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:36:31 I went to elite U Lani fighting a lion. I know the lion is Illinois. I don't. A Lee ease. Anyway, who cares? Um, the, um, he said that 80% 80 something percent of, uh, is, uh, water. The service of the 78% 71. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Anyway, who cares? Yeah. That, but the larger, the larger point of this none, anyone can ramble off numbers and like disconnected facts. It is the essential truth of any school that yes, you can memorize facts. Yeah. That does not matter. Anywhere near as much, you know, it's comprehending the meaning.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Do you understand when in your life it's most important scholastically to rattle off facts? Ooh boy. Second, third grade, second and third grade. Yeah. That's around when that's most important. Yeah. A very thin, small area that we cohabitate upon on this, uh, third rock
Starting point is 01:37:29 out from the standard yellow sun, two thirds of the way out on the spiral arm and the standard yellow sun in deep space. I mean, again, knowledge is just endless. You can always blast out from any point and have unbelievable compendiums and reams of information. But here's the bottom line. There is a biological, cultural, mathematical, systematic attack to make having children and to make having families and to make building human
Starting point is 01:37:59 societies and cultures impossible. From the taxes, the regulations, to the work weeks, to the travel, to the chemicals and the biologicals, to the propaganda, to the medicalized tyranny, to the brainwashing, to start out with. He's just saying words. But he knows that his audience is going to be triggered by various words. So you have the medical tyranny. And everybody's picking their own word to be triggered by it.
Starting point is 01:38:29 And then he gets to just jump on whatever people give the most response. The medical tyranny becomes vaccines. The propaganda becomes feminism. You know, whatever. It's, it's all just like. But before we dig into that, shout out to John Lithgow. Choose your, what? Third rock from the sun.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Oh, sure. From the standard yellow sun. Oh, yeah. It's a, yeah, it's choose standard yellow sun as if that, what? But no. Refuse. You refuse? Refuse.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Standard, standard, standard yellow sun. Give me a scientist that says standard yellow sun. Maybe that doesn't even make any fucking sense. Yeah. It's not like the yellow sun is the most common type of star. No, but you know, that's not a thing. You know why he says that? Cause he's a fucking moron.
Starting point is 01:39:19 What color is the sun on Krypton? Uh, I have no idea. Isn't it red? The red son of Krypton? Oh, is it a Superman? Is it a red giant? The whole thing with the Krypton is. Oh, that sounds like, yeah, that sounds right.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I think that Alex, I'm not a Superman guy. I don't like, but I don't like overpowered anyways. Listen, the reason I'm bringing this up is I think that Alex is basing that sort of idea of the standard yellow sun on the idea of comic books. Okay. And stuff like that. That makes sense. I mean, who fucking knows?
Starting point is 01:39:46 Yeah. Anyway, like you're right though. The bigger point is that he's just rattling off the, like all of these reasons why having a family is like it's impossible. It's a smorgasbord. It's a buffet. He is, he is the old town buffet of bullshit. But even when some of those examples that he's giving are literal, like counter
Starting point is 01:40:11 examples to his point, like taxes, there's breaks for having children. Right. So like it's not, it doesn't work. Like some of the examples along the way are vague and clearly trying to spec. I gotcha. And some of the other ones are like, nope. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Got confirmation. The sun on Krypton's red. I can move on now. Hey, the n-word. With your life. So totally reasonable. I don't say it. What's wrong about the saying?
Starting point is 01:40:37 I'm going to scroll this back because I don't think you heard the context there. Yeah, I miss that a little bit. End up to the medicalized tyranny to the brainwashing to start out with, don't say the n-word sounds totally reasonable. I don't say it was brought about to say it. Don't believe it because I'm a good guy to look down on somebody to feel big. You're not. Well, I don't suppose you're looking down on her better than you at many things.
Starting point is 01:41:03 So why would I join that culture? Hmm. And then it's we're going to ban Nazis. Well, I don't. Yes. Neighbors. Well, now you're a Nazi. Oh, I'm banned now.
Starting point is 01:41:13 You just called me one. It didn't matter. You are a Nazi. So the FCC has seven, eight words you're not supposed to say on radio. Carlin. What fuck shit, piss, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits. Classic bit. I think that's the, I think that's the one.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Did you know that Alex once interviewed George Carlin? That's that. Tell me. Do you not remember? We've told me that you have audio. We've covered this on the show. We have not. He didn't, he didn't interview him.
Starting point is 01:41:41 One of his reporters went to a book signing and tried to try to ask him a question at the book. So you, you, you, you, you did not frame it the correct way. No, he says that he interviewed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Now, now I get it. So there's those seven words.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I mean, you're not supposed to say the N word. That's true. And then now Nazis are banned, which apparently they're not there. They're apparently not banned. Yeah, just turn. They're frustratingly not banned. It just turns out that like most people are really cool with you punching them. That's, that's really all it is.
Starting point is 01:42:16 Yeah. Anyway, the TV was broadcast. Ooh, always. Then the word training, which was created 20 something years ago by people in that community that want to identify as women and like men, like women, you name it and want to do that. Do I hate those people? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Did I ever say I hated them? No. And it's not like they beat me up with a head till I said I wasn't against it. A lot of us destructive lifestyle, heavy suicide, big problems, but I'm not even just might as well just take a break there. Wow, you can press that. Nope. Um, I mean, oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:55 No, it's their fault for their lifestyle. Well, yeah, definitely has nothing to fuck you. Well, I mean, it's the same rhetoric that was used against the gay community in the early days of that. It's your fault. Um, I mean, look, if you want to say like, Hey, you can't say this word. They came up with that word. I mean, the list is long of words created by communities that have been co-opted
Starting point is 01:43:22 and used as slurs. Exactly. And who's fault is that? Yeah. Probably very open-minded people like Alex. Sure. Hmm. Judging those people who are human beings.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I don't hate them. I don't need to feel like they're bad and they have problems and I'm this big moral guy when I certainly am not perfect. Let me tell you, you call them globalists. I'm probably more wicked than they are in some respects. Indeed. You see that as wicked. But you look at that word.
Starting point is 01:43:51 We got a call last year and we recorded the vice president and must be Facebook. So Alex is claiming here that the vice president, you're sort of right there. The vice president of Facebook called him and he recorded the call and the guy said, he's going to explain what he said. And he's talked about this a bunch of times. So it's not like totally new news. It's like, you can't say that T word. You can say anything else, baby, but we'll ban you if you say that T word.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Don't do it. That doesn't sound true at all. I don't believe it for a second. It's absolutely untrue. I have left Facebook for nigh on a year now and it has been a delight seeing a lot of people post that word. But yeah, and I've seen a lot of people post a lot worse before I was gone. That was definitely there.
Starting point is 01:44:40 Yeah, it's it's a lot of people weren't banned for that word. It's categorical nonsense. And frankly, you know what? But you know what? Here's Ru Paul uses that word on her Facebook page. Like, right? Like, it doesn't matter. Right.
Starting point is 01:44:51 That's a different conversation. It's a whole different conversation. It's super complicated, but the one that you and I do not have standing on. No, it's the best way of putting that. The other thing that I want to take out of this too, though, is that, like, I have a standing position that whenever Alex says he has footage of something and he doesn't produce it, I don't believe it. Well, yeah, because he does this all the time.
Starting point is 01:45:16 He said he had hours of footage of Megan Kelly sucking up to him and all this and proof that she's a liar. And then as soon as the interview came out and it wasn't that damaging. Well, never going to have never release all that footage. Never needed to talk about it again. He has, he constantly talks about how he has hours and hours of footage of Antifa beating up women at these Trump rallies. And all that he plays are these wildly innocuous videos of someone maybe pushing
Starting point is 01:45:45 a mic out of their face. You're like, Hey, you know, you didn't need to hit that mic, but you did. Certainly not an assault. Certainly not extreme, but he's like, we've got hours and hours of this footage never produced. So the fact, the idea that the vice president of Facebook called him, he recorded the call. It's not true.
Starting point is 01:46:06 It's not absolutely not true until proven otherwise. Well, I think that is indicative of one of my largest issues with so much of media attention, like is that well, it's not object proven consistent liars, right? It's not that they shouldn't exist or that they like it's that we should be able to learn from that. Like once you become, once you become an untrustworthy source, you should not be consulted and your opinion should be devalued.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Right. And that goes, that goes for people in the mainstream too. Right. Absolutely. Anytime, anytime Paul Ryan speaks, everybody should just be like, no, you're not trustworthy. Or Peter Jennings. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Is that Peter Jennings? Is that one thing? No. Who's that guy who's on 30 Rock? That guy who's real fun on 30 Rock, that news anchor who lied a bunch. Oh, yeah, yeah, Brian, Brian, Brian Williams, Brian Williams. Yeah, he's boring ass names. Peter Jennings.
Starting point is 01:47:15 No, I think you're thinking of Ken Jennings, the Jeopardy champion. I'm not. Because he does not lie, sir. His credibility is still intact as far as I know. No, I feel like why there's so many times where we keep seeing people who have been documented lying to us and they're still allowed to go on like Jordan. If you're a fucking liar that we have proved to have lied multiple times, then you're done.
Starting point is 01:47:45 No one should listen to you anymore. Let me inject one more variable into this. I believe it comes down to faith. If you are a good faith liar, like someone who has lied in good faith, like you accidentally reported a story that wasn't true, like you're an anchor and there's a story that comes up and you report it. Turns out it's not true. And then there's a correction that's released and all of that.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I'm talking about consistent behavior. Right, right. That's bad faith lying. Yeah, that is intent. That that is really what it comes down to. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like that's and that's what Alex does. That's what Cernovich does.
Starting point is 01:48:24 That's what all these assholes do. It's bad faith. It comes down to this Kantian idea of the only thing that's good in life is a good will and they have a bad will. They wish they wish bad. Any time, any time if, if you see an oil lobbyist show up on a fucking show to talk about climate change, it's like, no, you're not allowed here. Right.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Because you're a liar. It's been proven you're done. There's no both sides. There's no opinion. Spoiler alert. God damn it. I've just done a bunch of research into Alex Jones's climate science guide. No.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Lord Moncton. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, but that one was not hard. It turns out he works for an organization that's got tons of money from Exxon. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Real fun. No, a cursory Google search should prove that.
Starting point is 01:49:14 It took me three Google searches to be fair. Had to find the organization. The think tank he works for. And you wanted to be thorough. Yeah, exactly. I mean, like what it really comes down to, and this is something that we talk about sort of vaguely all the time. I think it's really spiritually what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:49:33 And that is that like a lot of people are going to lie to you or lie to you accidentally and it's your civic responsibility to understand what you're hearing. Right. Like it's we unfortunately live in an era now where there's enough people with bad will and bad faith who are operating, running around and pretending. Like, because the internet is such that you can create a real good official looking website and lie all day on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Or you can be someone who has enough like juice on Twitter or something like that. And you can get invited on CNN or some shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk and it's no longer a place where you can trust the public discourse has a rooting in reality. You have to you have to look. I don't have to check. I don't think that that is a new phenomena.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I think it is. I disagree. I think the the echo chamber is much larger now. And it's got a farther reach. But if you go back through history, like Liars abound, Liars abounded, but generally speaking, I think, I think things were a little stricter before. Disagree. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:50:45 But also back then there were other problems with like, you know, we'll just never tell certain Malaria or yeah, we'll never tell certain stories. Right. So you have like three news channels and none of them would cover something very important, right? Or or you have your like, we won't allow the like when LBJ refused to because of political reasons, what was the quote? Like, we can't put this out because it would undermine people's faith in the
Starting point is 01:51:18 government so much that it would be destructive. Like all of these different lies or, you know, Nixon kept the Vietnam war going by fucking negotiating secret anti peace treaties in order to make sure that he could be reelected and Iran Contra happened. Thousands upon thousands of people died just so Nixon could get reelected. Speaking of which, Larry Nichols hasn't been on the show lately. I haven't heard from him in a really long time. I wonder if he's dead.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Oh, but he doesn't really have cancer. That's I know, but he's still fucking old as shit. That's true. He certainly doesn't seem healthy, even if he doesn't have cancer. Is this is still, he's still my answer. Is this our Abe Vagoda situation? Like, do we need a timer of like, is Abe Vagoda dead? If there is a fish, if there's the fish of a knowledge fight, it's fucking Larry
Starting point is 01:52:14 Nichols. We should call him. I mean, not now. It's pretty late now. Call him. No. We've had four beers. Now's the time to call Larry Nichols. Larry.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Hey, let's get back to this clip. Look, Twitter and they said, listen, you can stay on. But there's one thing we're going to put this report out soon. There's one thing you can't say. And that's tranny. Now, there's so much to that. And I said, well, that's a term created by that community. Well, Facebook and Twitter judged in 2017 that it's a hate word.
Starting point is 01:52:51 So it's gone. See, and once you accept that you can't say the new N word, the N word is still another word. But why did they choose that word? So here's the here's the problem that I have with that logic. What do you mean? Why did they choose that word? I don't care.
Starting point is 01:53:09 That that to me is less interesting than the flaw in Alex's logic of like, Alex, just start shouting the N word. Just why not? Yeah, you pussy. If you if you are like, no, it's a free speech issue. Why are you even saying, quote, the N word? Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Exactly. What is your fucking problem? Right. You say, say the T, right? Because you know, you don't get your audience doesn't give a shit about that. It's like, it's the genre. Your audience isn't going to be offended by that. They think they're weird.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah. But he's going to get a lot of press from saying that. But yeah, there was there was an article in right wing watch. Yeah. But it only covered a slight portion of this entire right, right? It only covered the part where we'll get to it. But yeah, no, I mean, it's the old John Mulaney joke of writing for an award show and they're like, OK, you can't say midget.
Starting point is 01:54:05 It's the N word. And he's like, well, one word we're saying and the other word we're not. Right. So it's not as bad, you know, like that kind of thing. And it's not like I'm not endorsing their N word. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:22 It's like, I'm not I'm not saying that these these words are acceptable or or good labels. Let me throw this out. Yeah. All of them aren't good. It's not good. Maybe don't be a dick about it. I really, really like I don't understand where it comes into like this is this is this becomes such a problem for me.
Starting point is 01:54:43 And it's not just because I'm a supporter of trans rights. And that that that's secondary to just the idea of like this is a free speech issue. Why can't I say things that people don't want to be called? Yeah. And I was like, well, I mean, like, you know, like if you if I didn't know you and I just screamed shit head at you on the street or something like that. Right. You probably generally don't like being called a shit head.
Starting point is 01:55:12 I pray I'd be an asshole for saying that to you. Yes. They take any of the identifiers out of it and it's all just it's just stop. So much just so much of it is so much of these conversations can be boiled down to don't be a dick. Yeah. You know, which is apparently it was apparently according to Cali Girl 90 in the chat room, a real big fish song, which I'm a huge fan of.
Starting point is 01:55:40 All right, all right. Stop out. All right. No, but totally it is. No, it is. It is just like be a fucking courteous human being right who's hearing what people say and I know Alex that you are hearing it because you say the N word and don't drop a hard R on the show.
Starting point is 01:55:57 Yeah, you know that your funding and all that isn't going to dry up if you drop an N bomb on the show, you know that, right? You know that your funding doesn't depend on that. If you really gave a shit, you'd just be throwing the N word around like crazy. Yeah. And that to me means that your principle is flawed and your idea is stupid. Yeah, but keep digging because it's trans. It has nothing to do with men that want to be women or women that want to be men
Starting point is 01:56:27 and all the rest of it. It's once they get you. Yeah, they called the police on people to set training on the radio. That's that's daily caller. This is an article about student radio thing where there were some students on the radio and they were offended and called the police on it. I don't really, I don't think that's necessarily the appropriate response, but also I think that student radio, especially in college is a is a murky
Starting point is 01:56:55 territory in terms of FCC laws. I don't know. Don't have a dog in that fight. Don't care. But anyway, hold on. No, no, no, here's here's the big thing that he just said that I think is one of the most important things to tackle in regards to exciting in regards to this conversation. Things.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Yeah. Yeah. The idea of trans people want to be a man, right? Want to be a woman, right? That is not the case. That is like saying that gay people want to be gay and it is not. It is not a want. Want gives you such a connotation of like, I am choosing this because I desire
Starting point is 01:57:40 it and not because this is part of my identity. This is part of who I am. Right. Just like, it's like saying like, I want to be straight. Yeah. I have no desire towards that. That is just part of your orientation. I've never considered it.
Starting point is 01:57:59 I mean, I've considered. I was waiting. I was waiting for that shoot. Yeah. Of course. Of course. But that's a different conversation. That might have been the funniest thing that's ever happened in this podcast.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I think I lost a cigarette because of it. It's right next to your Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Stupid foot. It's down right there. Oh boy. Well, man, great podcast.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Good pod. Good pod. Yeah. No, totally, totally. The idea of your desires and your orientation being equivalent are very, very different because I mean, you, I mean, history has shown studies have shown that the idea of trying to change your orientation is a road of peril. It's a road that never really does anything but create more shame.
Starting point is 01:58:48 Right. And usually more internal anguish. And the idea that, because we always, if you want to take this, because Alex is going to eventually, I don't think he does in this episode, but he always does do the dumb. I think he actually does. I'm going to hold off on this. Okay. Because I think he gets into the biological stuff later.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Oh, no. We can, we can deal with that. I just, to me, it is, it is the fundamental issue with that kind of acceptance of different ideas of, of life is you are like me. So if you are not acting like me, then you are desiring something that I find to be morally objectionable or questionable. Yeah. And so it is not something that you can accept as you are not like me.
Starting point is 01:59:44 And so you are you. It's a very, it's a projection that I is, is such at the heart of all of this prejudice and all of this hate. Well, there's all this stupid idea. This is some of the bombs. It's like, it's like, it's like saying, you know what, these black people just don't want to be white. They want to be black instead of it being something that is part of, of who you are.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Right. Like it is like, you can desire yourself out of something that you are, which I think is bullshit. Totally. And there's, there's a secondary aspect to this that Alex is really, I think it really the core of what he's talking about is this idea of like, they're trying to shut down the language, they're trying to shut down the ability of men and women to exist, all this.
Starting point is 02:00:36 And that's what he's, he's going to dig into that a little bit. And one of the things that has never charmed me about that argument is that like, if you look at the reality of stuff, no one is ever really shutting down language. They're expanding language. Right. The, the, the reality of, of, you know, back in the day when America was great. Nope. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Don't even say those words in the fifties. Don't even like it. You had straight people in the queers, right? In the fifties. Right. I don't, I don't, America was great. I'm, I'm going to let you continue. I'm being satirical.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I get it. But satire. Yeah. You had, you had that dichotomy back then. Yeah. And there were a bunch of people who didn't fit into that dichotomy and they were limited. But the major prevailing people in society, most people didn't give a shit. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:30 And eventually those people forced a conversation and the language got expanded and it didn't hurt the larger portion of population that our heterosexual cisgender, any of those sorts of designations, it doesn't hurt them at all. All it does is expand what people's identification are because back then there was heterosexual and the negative everybody else. Right. Yeah. And it was, it was not a straight dichotomy because back then there were people who were
Starting point is 02:02:05 like, well, I'm not really what these people think I am, but the queer I'm, I'm bisexual or I'm, you know, there's, there's a whole spectrum of things and as time went on, the language expanded. And so Alex's arguments about this idea of like it closes off language and all this stuff. I think exactly the opposite. Of course not. I think all it does is expand language and it expands our understanding of how people experience life.
Starting point is 02:02:35 And I think that's a fucking amazing, beautiful thing. The word makes me so mad. The word diversity does not shut down language. It expands it. Yeah. That's exactly the point. It's a tragedy that like, that he has a feeling. Well, I mean, you know, so much of him is a tragedy, but the tragedy is that like he believes
Starting point is 02:02:59 a thing that's so counter to what the people on the other side that he's against are actually saying, right, and actually believe, but in order to hate something that is eminently reasonable, you have to take an illogical and stupid approach to it. Right. Or you have to have a vested interest in that. Yes. And I mean, who knows what that might be, but be that as it may, let's go back to the clip, find some more fucking stupid.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Fortified racist supply. Oh God. They arrest you in California. Have you say that? Once they say that now. So real quick, what he's talking about there, they arrest you in California. There's a law that's on the books and it is about consistent misgendering of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Yeah. And we've talked about that before. We have, but just to bring it back, it's just, it's more about harassment in the workplace is not about like, Hey, you accidentally call someone by the wrong pronoun, you're going to the clink or anything like that. It's nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Now, transhumanism, if you study eugenics in 1949, they voted at the World
Starting point is 02:04:13 Eugenics Society to call themselves transhumanist because Hitler and their funding of Hitler had made it look bad. So Julian Husley, brother of all is actually all that great new world stuff right about the early thirties. This is, this is a rampant misrepresentation of all this. A lot of this will also, I hate to keep saying this, a lot of this will be covered in the endgame documentary in much fuller detail. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:36 What he suffices to say for now, he's fucking lying. Although there is a connection between the early eugenics movement. It was not necessarily a racist eugenics movement that became a transhumanist movement, and that is not at all involved in transgender issues. But because the prefix is the same, Alex gets very confused, literally everything transport. That's what, that's, oh, we got to walk everywhere. Dude, that's what they got to walk everywhere.
Starting point is 02:05:08 That's what they do. They said, how did you know this? Well, it's the plan. Now you see it happen. His brother said, we've been embarrassed. So now we're going to be transhumanists. We're going to improve humans. Well, that's your right.
Starting point is 02:05:19 If you think it's improvement, but what it means is take control governmentally of human development through chemicals, through biologicals, through culture, through brainwashing, through media, through education. Okay. This is all their own examples. This isn't my opinion. This is them. Remember saying all this.
Starting point is 02:05:35 No, it's not, but also what Alex did right there is like, this triggers me to no extent, but I don't show anger really much at all. Right. Uh, I mostly laugh at things that make me mad. But, uh, I've noticed that assholes, when they're talking in the middle of their sentences, they say, okay, they do that. They say, okay, in the middle of things, as if to say like, Oh my God, do I say that?
Starting point is 02:06:02 No, now I'm terrified. No, I would have terrified of all of my tics. I would have punched you by now. So many, so many tics now that I'm trying to go back through and like, oh, shit, does that one mean like, I know I'm an asshole. I just don't want any of, oh, you're a total asshole. No, no, the, the, the, the standard like that. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Is like a rhetorical thing that people who have nothing do in the middle of sentences in order to be like, get on the fucking board, get on board. Yeah. Idiot. Yeah. You don't know what I'm talking about. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Okay. I'm making a point here. And, uh, if you're not, okay, it's just, it's, it's one of the weakest things in the world, the one of the best examples of it. We talked about this, uh, um, press conference on our live show, the, uh, the Larry Sinclair press conference. It's full of him saying, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Okay. Like trying to explain away his crimes in the past. Well, look, I, it was 10 years in the past. Okay. Oh shit. Now that I, now that I, now that I made that connection, like Sarah, Huckabee Sanders does that shit all the time. It's a, it's a, it's a condescension trip.
Starting point is 02:07:11 Yeah. It's a rhetorical condescension. Right. Also spoiler alert. After we did that live show, did a little more looking into Larry Sinclair. Turns out one of his big donations came anonymously from, uh, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, someone she wasn't alive, someone in Minnesota. In gold, you know, who sells gold, Jesse Ventura, no, Ted Anderson.
Starting point is 02:07:41 Yeah, I know. And he's based in Minnesota. Yeah. There's a decent chance that Ted Anderson, same guy. Yep. Ted Anderson and Reverend Manning might have been, anyway, that's the, who cares? Holy shit. Fuck Larry Nichols.
Starting point is 02:07:56 We got to find Ted Anderson. Yeah. I don't think he'd ever talk to us. Oh, I bet he would. He's probably bored. He's a rich man. All right. Next episode, we'll give him a call.
Starting point is 02:08:04 Okay. You're a radio listener. The cruise is randomly searching when I say it, just finding articles that say it. But again, that's great news sourcing. It's not true. They just, the crew is randomly Googling after I say bullshit. It's not true. They're just showing like whatever flashes up on the document cam is just
Starting point is 02:08:24 like a Wikipedia article or some like, eventually he's going to get into the Tavistock Institute and it'll just be their home page. It doesn't prove anything. It just is like, oh, look at this. Ah, because it's them saying. So once they get you to say, hey, don't even say a word that has to be with transitional, don't even discuss human evolution, whether it's self-directed, that's a very human trait, is to self-direct what you want to be your
Starting point is 02:08:54 environment, who you want to be, how long you want to live, what you want to do. It is a very human thing to be a man and to say, I want to be a woman or to be a woman and say, I want to be a man. I wish, I wish that that was all he said. I'm not saying that's the the human thing or a good human thing. I'm saying it's very human to say, I want to be something different. I want to build something. I want to change myself.
Starting point is 02:09:19 I want to, that's, that's what we do. We, we control our environment with only species that does. And whatever we envision, we can, at all, beavers make dams. Like that's like fucking ants. Like just let's, ants. Rats make a rat king changes their environment. That's true. They turn into a bundle of rats.
Starting point is 02:09:42 If there's one thing I know about rats, it's rat kings. This is sad. Like this is, this is like, it's so, it's such tunnel vision about like the, the totality of human experience and animal experience. You know, even like gophers make holes and stuff. There's a lot of, there's a lot of animals that now that I'm thinking about it, change their environment drastically. Pretty much a lot of them.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Yeah. But once they get you to accept that, that they can go into the schools, they can tell your children, you confuse their sex, they can brainwash. For an agenda where they want to be 50 different things. And I made the point, there's these shows on history and discovery. I didn't watch much TV and I see people who love their cars and marry them. This woman loves her blender. And I'm like, that's just crazy.
Starting point is 02:10:39 It's a fetish. It's weird, whatever. I don't hate that person. Sure. And I'm spreading disease, having sex with the VFW tailpipe. And the headline is Alex Jones says gay men are. All over the niche. Didn't say that.
Starting point is 02:10:54 But see, once they say, don't criticize gay men, don't criticize trans, then they can say, don't criticize people that have four parents and aren't really people because they're not, they're something new. Don't say you're a person. See, there's another key to understand all this. Take zoological experiments. Take humans have rights, animals have rights, but all these transhuman zoological experiments they have classified, they've done for 40 years.
Starting point is 02:11:19 They classified it 20 years ago, that they've done it 20 years before. So 40 years of human, animal, hybrids, human, human hybrids, you know, five genetics of men, women, all of it, it's been artificially made called children. Right. Artificially made. And now if you discuss that it's artificially made or what is it or does it have rights, you're done, you're gone, you're bad, you're a hate monger. And that's why this is a critical area.
Starting point is 02:11:48 They said, how do we get them to accept men becoming women, men become women becoming men, because once they do that, they'll accept the brain chips, all of it, splicing with animals, people that really are humanoid. And then that's it. This is it. This is the total main lining of in the humanities. We know it and it's being forced directed at our children. It's not a choice to become something new.
Starting point is 02:12:11 It's being forced. So here's being forced directed at our children here. Here's where my issue comes in with Alex's rhetoric about like, I don't hate, I don't hate these people, but do you mean specifically talking about trans people? Yeah, I don't hate them. Not granted. They're very similar to Chimeras, right? And it's destroying the human race.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Yeah. Oh, there's like, you can't use this rhetoric. You can't use this rhetoric and this analogy. You can't use this level of analogy game and just be like, now, well, I'm not comparing them, but I'm fucking comparing them. It's not okay. I think the thing that like that I expected, I think the thing that triggered me most from my brow a little bit from Alex, from Alex, hold, hold on.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Come on, it's not that come on now. Well, to be fair, again, his feelings regarding trans people, we have documented exhaustively, to be fair, only sponsored posts, killing it in the chat tonight with a, in quotes, V F W's tailpipe. Yeah, well, that's the thing that made me so angry is how the veteran of foreign wars, tailpipe, dare, you say that people are spreading disease. How dare you by fucking? Zero disease is spread by fucking a car.
Starting point is 02:13:41 No, that's what all the disease is spread by not taking not taking vaccines or by not using a condom when you, well, yeah, yeah. I mean, always use, always use a condom if that tailpipe is rusted. That's not where tetanus comes from. That's what I heard. Is that right? I have no idea. There could be some tetanus truthers out there.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Probably. But look, like I just, it, it bums me out and I know what's to come. And so I don't want to, all right, let's get into it. Then we're, we're at like two and a half hours. No, we're not. We're like a two 10. Okay. But also, unfortunately, I've taken another intermission.
Starting point is 02:14:18 Dude. It will be quick. Uh, and I promise you things are going to about to get really bad. All right. Hey, we're back. Sorry about that. I, uh, you know what happened? I, uh, turned on, uh, interstitial, uh, hold music, uh, and forgot to plug my
Starting point is 02:14:34 phone back in. So there was no, uh, no beats going for the people in the chat room. I apologize. Oh, no, anyone is stuck on, uh, stuck along. We appreciate it so much. Uh, we have two clips left and the second clip is I promise you Jordan. Yes. Uh, literally a punchline, uh, but unfortunately we got this, uh, this next clip.
Starting point is 02:14:56 So at the end of that last clip, uh, we went to, we went to commercial without saying that, uh, all this is manufactured. It's all nonsense. Um, and, and like the transphobia is strong. Uh, it's very strong, uh, right. And we've like Anakin Skywalker. He's force. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:15 We've pointed out a number of things that are like some of the problems at the thinking, um, and it gets, it gets, uh, a bit uglier in this, uh, as he comes back from commercial break. Right. Uh, so this will be a little bit more difficult to deal with, but, uh, here we go. Alex Jones here back live. There is a blitzkrieg taking place against the human condition. We're being put into an artificial construct for control for reverse
Starting point is 02:15:45 engineering and then for an extermination. That is the admissions of the globalist. Elon Musk has warned you that they worship AI gods. They believe are about to show up on the scene. Not true. Elon Musk just, uh, tweeted about some guy who, uh, said he was going to try and create an ill, uh, AI God. And he's like, you're the last person who should do that.
Starting point is 02:16:06 Right. Just a dishy comment between, uh, people who kind of know each other and probably don't like each other. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. It has nothing to do with the reality of AI gods. Right. Again, whitey's on the moon.
Starting point is 02:16:17 Who demands humanity be exterminated first. Now that said, let me quantify this. Quantify. Do it. The whole trans movement has nothing to do with homosexual men. It has nothing to do with trans people. It has to do with attacking language. So you will not call someone heterosexual or homosexual.
Starting point is 02:16:43 No, the very debate about someone's chromosomes and biological preset is illegal. That's not how it works. So now he was a gay lad. It was a gay day. That language is expropriated from homosexual. It's not. To gay, just like no one will say, haka zoid. Caucus mountains.
Starting point is 02:17:09 No, that's true. No one will say haka zoid. Alex seems to have like, uh, what I would describe as a warped understanding of like words, well, like, and appropriate language. I don't think that there's anything like, I don't think anyone's offended by homosexual, like, I don't think that's a pejorative term or heterosexual. He talks about that, like being like, Oh, I'm going to say homosexual. I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Like, yeah, I don't think anyone cares. I mean, but I don't think even gay, it depends on how you say it. I don't like how he says it. Right. Right. But I don't like it. I don't like him talking about anything. But I don't think even gay is bad unless you use it in like your gay kind of way.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Like I don't think gay is it's just very, it's not specific enough. That's all. It's very, it's very similar to, uh, to Jew, you know, like you are a Jew, but you can also say Jew in a way that is like, are you doing a, do not doing a bit from, uh, it's always sunny. It's somebody's bid. Isn't it from that always sunny episode, the hard J. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:13 Yeah. Okay. But I feel like it was somebody's bit before that, but anyways, intent does come down into it, you know, like, right. But also I want to say this, which is a patent Oswald bid about many different. Anyways, Oh, I want to say this quite, uh, quite clearly in terms of my perspective, uh, trans movement is not about gay men. Yeah, I was, I was totally on board with him.
Starting point is 02:18:33 The first part trans movement is not about, uh, constricting language. It's about fucking people, which is the second part of what he said. He said the trans movement is not about gay people. And I was like, yes, you nailed it. Right. That's a different thing. Yeah. And then he said the trans movement is not about trans people.
Starting point is 02:18:51 And I was like, you do not understand the trans movement. It's kind of about people. Again, he thinks it's about this confining language thing. And it's so baffling to me. It just comes down to, I think this same libertarian idea about like, I hate the civil rights act because I can't say no blacks in my establishment or something like that. It's like, but I'm not racist.
Starting point is 02:19:14 I just can't say it. Well, I don't want to run that business, but someone should be able to. It's, it's, they're right. You know, it's this hiding behind. If you look at the language of like de-segregationists and de-integration people, people who are against integration, they use the same language of like, I don't hate the people, but I don't like the effect that it has on business or something like that.
Starting point is 02:19:36 It's always people couching these beliefs of like, look, I love the people. They're fine. They're great. They should be able to do whatever they want. But it can never be said enough how unpopular Martin Luther King Jr. was. Totally. People hated him. They killed him.
Starting point is 02:19:53 They hated him. They killed him. The FBI allowed them to kill him. Well, and, and that's a whole. Tons of people would have sooner. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it's, it's just one of those things where it's like the revision of your
Starting point is 02:20:06 history is always going to be. We're, no, he was a hero. He was the best. And it was like, at the time, even people in the civil rights movement were like, you're moving too fast. Yeah. Like it's always going to be the thing. Realistically, I think that we have probably a more evolved populace right now
Starting point is 02:20:26 than we did back then. Like if you look at the numbers in terms of the people who were active in the civil rights movement then and people who are on board with a lot of progressive causes now, I think we probably, probably have a better bulk, better percentage of. Oh, I absolutely agree. Which is kind of scary to think of, because we're not getting that work done. Supports my argument that everyone over the age of 45 should be killed immediately. What?
Starting point is 02:20:58 Is that a bad idea? It is. I had a weird thought about that, but I don't remember what it was. So I'm not going to speak on it. I don't like you saying I had a weird thought about that. I had a kernel of something. It's for the show, but I can't remember what it was. So let's get back to the clip.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Has nothing to do. With saying bad things about white people, or they want to change the name of Negro Madelo means black beer. Madeleine nobody, nobody wants to do that. Madeleine means model. You can't use the scientific name for black people. Has nothing to do with saying their vats. Not a scientific name.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Oh, also don't say the scientific name for black people. Hold on, hold on. How about that? Wait, is Negro the scientific name for black people? Well, like it would be, I guess, Homo Negrois or something like that. If he wants to do that. I don't feel like that's a scientific name. Homo sapiensapien negrilis.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I don't know what it would be in Latin. Here's what I think it would be. Uh, folks. Sure. Just people. People. In on the front of it. Or me.
Starting point is 02:22:06 Once you can't use the N word, now you can't use in. Yeah. I remember in middle school, people get upset because they were doing geography and saying, this is Niger. He said the N word sounds like the N word. You see the mental illness? Well, that's what children do. They think that Niger sounds like the N word.
Starting point is 02:22:28 The adults don't. The adults aren't confused because they're trying to teach geography. Right. And they know geography and they know all the countries. The children are the ones who are like, that looks like the N word. Right. Cause I remember I was a kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Uh, and so Alex is like, he's projecting that onto adults. And that's not the case. All of this is children. It's child thoughts. Alex is a fucking child. Agreed. Everything in his brain has not evolved since he was seven or eight. It's fucking fascinating how this is such a clear line through this episode.
Starting point is 02:23:13 Yeah. Even through all this bigotry, all this stupid shit he's saying, it all goes back to the key, the key is the keys to right that they have the key is all of him. His bullshit about reading when he was younger and not understanding the key is he still doesn't actually know how to read. I don't think he does. I agree. And the globalist psychologists are running this and they want to reduce world
Starting point is 02:23:39 population. Sure. Who does it? So the Tabistock Institute in the sixties. Again, he's confusing the Tabistock Institute and the Tabistock. Still doing stab it, Tabistock. This is public. We're very proud of it.
Starting point is 02:23:52 Develop the plan for trans nation, trans world. And once you say to children in the fifth grade starting, but now in the first grade, you're a girl. You could be a boy, you're a boy. You could be a girl and it's you can't say boy or girl because someone else might not be that it hurts them. I'm out. I don't even care.
Starting point is 02:24:16 You know, I'm past this. Yeah. This is it. Look, this is, this is purple penguins. Let's move on. I mean, the reality is like, uh, if people are giving this sort of influence to children, uh, it's not, Hey, boy, you want to be a girl. Hey, you want to be a boy.
Starting point is 02:24:33 It's more like, Hey, he makes it sound like kids are walking home from school and there's a guy in a trench coat and he opens up his trench coat and instead it's like, it's penises. Like you want, you want one of these slug worth. Yeah, exactly changing your gender fucking slug worth. Yeah, it's nonsense. Yeah, it's nonsense. I know a number of people who, uh, have come up trans.
Starting point is 02:24:57 I don't even like that's how I said it, but I know a number of trans people and like their experience is, uh, very different to this idea of, uh, the idea that people made it okay. Which is perhaps the best rebuttal to Alex Jones's argument about language. The two of us are, we both want very much to be as inclusive as possible. We want our language to be as close as inclusive as possible. And we still fuck up because both of us come from such ingrained backgrounds that a lot of our instinctive language that we're not hard, like we're not
Starting point is 02:25:42 constantly evaluating that whenever we're doing a show like this, you know, we don't have, you know, we're, we're just talking. That is, that is not to say that we are not conscious of it or aware of it. It is something that we're constantly trying to learn more about. Well, it's, it's, and so, and so if you do say something like that, I don't like the way I said, come up trans, right? It is not because you are, uh, which is how it came out of my mouth. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:26:11 It's like, it's like, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to, to accommodate with my language as well as I can, because I think it's important and I'm not going to be good at it. As I'm framing sentences, you know, it's a situation where like, I think, I don't know, I have trans friends and, and my experience is that like no one cares if you fuck up, right? Exactly. Cause it comes because they're like, no, no, no, we get it.
Starting point is 02:26:39 Cause it's not a, you're not a dick. Good faith. Again, it comes down to the difference between good faith and bad faith. Right. People only really get mad if you have bad faith. Yeah. It's comes down to the exact same thing we're talking about earlier with the hard J with your, your stolen.
Starting point is 02:26:55 It's always sunny. Oh, okay. All right. All right. All right. Well, like Jew and are we keeping track now of stolen bits? Is that what we're doing? Like you and Jew.
Starting point is 02:27:06 Yeah. That's good faith and bad faith. Yeah. Gay and gay. All right. Good faith and bad faith. And there is a, there is a market difference between the way you're using the exact same language and Alex is, I mean, he's a seven year old.
Starting point is 02:27:20 He doesn't understand the new ones. He's always bad faith. He doesn't always bad faith. But he doesn't understand the nuances of it and he doesn't understand that he's on the bad faith side. See this is very easy to change. It could be very easy for him. I disagree.
Starting point is 02:27:35 Well, I do not think it's very easy to change in function. It's very easy in mindset. It might be difficult for him. It would be a very simple action, right? But it would take unlearning a lot of things, right? He has learned. Well, I grew up in such a repressive and cult. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:59 So, so it is, it is something that I am still learning. Sure. Like I'm, I'm 30 years old and I have spent 20 of it trying not to be the asshole that my family has raised me to be and I'm still not great at it. I'm trying. I honestly think that if you hadn't have been raised in a cult, you'd still be struggling with that. Like, yeah, it's just a, it's, it's a product of our times.
Starting point is 02:28:26 It's a product of our evolving understanding of humanity. It's a evolution of empathy. Right. It's a, it's, it's something where we're, we're realizing that the human experience is much deeper and much more. Wired. Wired. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:46 Diverse. Then we thought, yeah, in the good old days, back when America was great. Fuck you. We thought it was much more unipolar or bipolar back then. And then we realized that it's thousands, thousands of poles. I grew up in a town with five guys, like that was, that was it. Burgers and fries? Pretty much.
Starting point is 02:29:08 No, sounds like a good town. I don't know why I said that. Now that I say that, I realized that it's, no, I grew up in a very, very small town and the experience was very limited. And so even, even now, after, you know, escaping that it's still like, I'm still learning new things that I am fucking up. Not because I knew I was fucking those things up. It's because I just existed in a place where those things didn't even exist.
Starting point is 02:29:36 And God, like it's one of those weird curses. You know, those like, may you be like that curse of like, may you live an interesting life, that kind of thing. Like it's that same sort of curse. Like, may you have to learn the whole time of your life. It's like, it's kind of a curse, but like it's a good curse. Like it's always going to be uncomfortable. But a good curse is called a blessing.
Starting point is 02:29:58 You're always going to be learning. And that's fine. That's fucking fine. We're humans are malleable. We're not like, it's not like you have to be stuck in your ways. Like, if the reality was that, like. There were, oh, this movement was really trying to end reproduction. Right.
Starting point is 02:30:19 Like, if there was some actual evidence of that in the references, Alex cited, I'd be pretty, pretty freaked out about that. Right. I would be like, I'd be like, we got it. We got it. We got to stop this, dude. Trans identity is awesome. I'm into it. I'm into it, but we need to discuss the ending of reproduction. Right. Whatever.
Starting point is 02:30:40 You know, like, right? Anyway, let's let's get through this. I'm sorry. Come on. Let's finish this. Let's do it. So what is the key? This whole trans movement is about outlying science. It's about outlying male and female chromosomes
Starting point is 02:30:58 that is absolute scientific fact. And then he's mixing up sex and gender. Scientists come out like Jordan Peterson in Canada and says, listen, I don't hate you if you want to be something else, but you biologically were born as this irrelevant. And now Google executives, it's come out in lawsuits and they admit this get in front of a whole amphitheater of people last year and say, I am a golden dragon, it's a female dragon.
Starting point is 02:31:30 What he's talking about. Isn't that a child? Isn't that a child dragon? I don't care. Maybe it's a dragon at like a female drag. I don't. Well, the dragon is different from a dragon at, which is not a word. Well, certainly.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Anyways, if you would like to learn more about dragons and dragonets, Reed and McCaffrey. People have tweeted of me to get into Jordan Peterson and debunk some of his shit. Yeah, I don't have time, but he's a fucking dick. He's a fucking idiot, but be that as it may. This is not compelling. I don't care what people might have said at a retreat.
Starting point is 02:32:10 Yeah, where they're like, I'm a dragon. I don't I don't really give a shit. Oh, hold on a second. Are you saying that billionaires are fucking assholes who should deserve to die? I'm on board. Well, but even like I've been to who not should deserve to who do deserve. I've been to weird like work functions and retreats or who said weird shit. Oh, so many like I don't care.
Starting point is 02:32:33 I'm just here. I'm just going to get through this. Yeah, just so happens that this one might have been Google. Right. I'm an expensive building. I have yellow scales. Everyone goes, you are a dragon. You have expensive building.
Starting point is 02:32:50 He's just talking about trust falls, basically. You know, they said, I'm God. They say you're a cult leader. But if you chant, I am a golden dragon, it they are making you say two plus two equals five. They are making you with all these articles. Like they'll have hundreds of articles a week like Jones is insane. He claims there's only two sexes. He claims it's chromosomal.
Starting point is 02:33:10 He claims families existed and they just attack you. He's insane. He's crazy. They're nuts. They're nuts. It's a it's a gaslighting of you, not of me, not of me. So that you give into that and then the sky is the limit. And then there's scientific, psychological warfare technicians who are going to go in when people in the trans community have the highest level of suicide of any group in the world. Well, who do we know who is a psych warfare guy?
Starting point is 02:33:45 I know one dude. Do we know a guy who is a psych warfare guy? There's one guy who's even too much of a liar for Alex to allow on his show. There's somebody who is really into psych warfare. Well, but this guy promises that he's not going to use his psych warfare on Alex. So it's he got to dismiss him. In that case, Dan, I'm going to give you five stars. Steve Pachanick is a psych warfare guy.
Starting point is 02:34:10 Go home and call your mother. Go get your shine box. You might as well set that quite frankly. That would have been more fun. This is nonsense. Also, the the idea, the very fucking idea of using trans suicide statistics to in the line of the trans community is. And when it's backwards, it's backwards.
Starting point is 02:34:32 Yeah, there's no more studies have been done very clearly on this. There's no. Like more perfect indictment of the opposite than trans suicide statistics. And the way Alex is doing it and the way he's about to do it is like the definition of blaming the victim. No. Don't. Worse than veterans, farmers, gay men, any.
Starting point is 02:34:59 No, no. They have been captured. They have been confused. They are being abused. They are being hurt and they're sucked into a very dangerous underworld of people that want to abuse them. Almost every quote, trans person is a escort who has to have sex with dozens of people a day and they end up killing themselves.
Starting point is 02:35:24 That's a fact. Hoof. Hoof. Hoof. You know, it's. That's that's terrible. That's so terrible. Terrible.
Starting point is 02:35:37 It's it's kind of amazing to me that for the most part, we, his, his monstrosity and his language towards so many different people is horrific. Yeah. But every time he brings up the trans community, it is. Unwieldy. Well, you know, you know, you know, you know, every time we have every time we have ever heard him talk about trans people, he has said the most offensive things.
Starting point is 02:36:11 Yeah, because he can. Yeah, because that's the vanguard now in terms of like, it's not, it's not like socially totally unacceptable to say these things. It's not the n-word. Right. Exactly. That's what he's doing. That's why he says the n-word.
Starting point is 02:36:28 That's why he's doing it. Instead of the n-word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's, it's, he still feels like it's okay to say tranny, but not the n-word. And so this is an example of this is a pathetic document of something that like 15 years from now, even the Alex Jones of 15 years from now will be like sign on off on when Alex Jones said that word. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:52 And if you really want to get into the reality of the trans experience, which I don't think I'm fully aware of, but I have done some research in and looked into to some extent, there are, there is a high incidence of escorting and prostitution for communities. And, and, and that is probably not about. Probably it's, it's, it is not. Well, it's, it's, there's no probably about it. It's, it's probably totally more about runaway kids.
Starting point is 02:37:33 It's almost a hundred percent about people who have been kicked out of their home because their parents don't accept them. Yeah. There's a much higher incidence of homelessness with trans youth, which is one of the reasons why we support the charity we support. Absolutely. And the, the, the issue comes down to like in, in homeless communities, prostitution is, is really rampant and that just is part and parcel with that
Starting point is 02:38:00 experience. Now, if you want to talk that about the totality of the trans community, uh, it's not a giant percentage of them who are prostitutes. No, that's an embarrassing and disgusting thing to say. And then to lump in the high rate of suicide in that is like a causal kind of thing where it's like, you're all prostitutes and you fuck a bunch of people every day and then you kill yourself. That's, that to me is one of like, that's, that's a terrible sense.
Starting point is 02:38:29 It's such, it's such a bad sentence. It's such an easy line to draw between how the people who don't belong to the dominant social stratus are, uh, exist with a higher suicide rate than the people who do. Isn't it such a simple, it's such a simple line to draw of like, Oh, are you constantly excluded? Surprise. Your suicide rate is higher.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Well, I mean, like it's that simple. Take even like the trans piece out of it. Just go back to another time in history, like go back to feudal times, like the death rate suicide rate for the surfs was higher than, uh, the rich people homes odd, odd. It turns out that historically people who are pushed to the side and, uh, treated like the other, uh, end up with, uh, all of the bad stuff. Right. And, uh, and the people who do have all the stuff, look it down and they're like,
Starting point is 02:39:33 Hey, fuck's wrong with them. Exactly. It's, it's a pathetic game. Right. Fucking stupid. Yeah, it's fucking stupid. And then even like, we're not even unpacking the idea that Alex seems to just think, I mean, he waffles back and forth in his language, but I think he really only
Starting point is 02:39:50 thinks that trans people are people who were born male, uh, who are actually, you know, who are women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think he has any idea about the other side of it, women who are men. Right. Uh, anyway, it's not important. I just wanted to point that out because it seems absent in the conversation. No, you're a real community.
Starting point is 02:40:12 You're absolutely correct. It seems totally lost in his, because it seems like, you know how, like whenever he talks about like the cuckolding of Western civilization, it's all just like, Oh, you got that from porn. I think his understanding of the trans community, probably a lot of it might come from porn. Well, I, I, here's, here's my, uh, analysis of it. And it's pretty simple.
Starting point is 02:40:37 Uh, when it comes to guys like Alex, uh, it is ultimately like a fear of, is this lady, I'm trying to have sex with actually a dude. So if it's a woman who, uh, identifies as a man and lives her life that way, he's not trying to have sex with her. Yeah. If it's a man who identifies with her, yeah, exactly. If it's a man who identifies as a woman, then he is terrified of the possibility that he'll, we take, we take trans issues out of it entirely.
Starting point is 02:41:11 And now it just becomes a transactional, it becomes transactional. Exactly. About sexuality. Agreed. It becomes a thing where it's like, I can't, I can't barter with you. You are not even, it's, you have no purchase in my landscape. It's the modern gay panic of like, Oh no, what if I actually want to fuck a dude? Like it's not even, it's not even modern.
Starting point is 02:41:33 No, it's, it's, uh, it's the very classic gay panic. You're right. That was on that, uh, that, uh, it was dealt horribly, uh, in that one. What was that one fucking nip tuck that show? Watched one episode about it and watched one episode of that show. It happened to be one where it was very, it was very terrifying. Oh boy. I don't know any of the characters names on that show.
Starting point is 02:41:56 Don't know any of the plots. Anyway, let's get through this. Let's do it. And then the left covers that up. Doesn't want to discuss that because they're using these people just like Hollywood does. Just like Quentin Tarantino says sex with children is a bad thing. If it's consensual. He defends Roman Polanski because they're pigs and they want to lower barriers of
Starting point is 02:42:17 families and any definition because now people that have been, can, you know, pled guilty to raping little eight year olds, six year old girls in Illinois. Just a few weeks ago said, I identify as a child and the court's looking at it saying maybe it's legal. Can children have sex with each other? Not at all. And so if you're a 40-something-year-old man, you know, the only thing the courts are possibly debating is, do we put him in prison for
Starting point is 02:42:47 life or a hospital for right? Is it a thing where he can be trusted to be in prison? Right. Is this going to be a thing where he kills himself the first day in prison? I don't, I don't know about that debate, but yeah, whatever. It's not like, it's not like, it's not like courts are debating, huh? This guy thinks he's a child. We should let him fuck kids.
Starting point is 02:43:09 No one is having that conversation, except Alex. He's the only person who's having that conversation. Exactly. You know, raping a six year old girl, just say you're a little boy and it's okay. You see, it's all semantical games. And then once you let them play games and tell a professor that he can't take the students, let them shit. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:43:28 I'm not against homosexuals or heterosexuals. You are. But using the heterosexual or homosexuals is science. Fuck you. You're a male, you're with a male, you're a woman, you're with a woman. He's right. Fuck you. No, he's right in terms of the definition of terms.
Starting point is 02:43:45 He's wrong in terms of the interpretation of like, no one's mad about the word homosexual. You're projecting this onto yourself because it's a safe thing to complain about. Right. It's fake, but it's safe for you to complain about this because you're fucking dumbass listeners in the sticks. Don't have any idea of what the real conversations people are having are. It's infuriating.
Starting point is 02:44:06 You'll never have someone on your show, Alex, who actually has a grasp of the issues. Yeah. They'll just be more Russian propagandists and what have you. Anyway. It has nothing to do with a judgment, but it becomes this whole idea to make people victims and now you must accept every form of trans, including I want to put Drano in my eyes.
Starting point is 02:44:27 I'm blind and the national health service says, yes, hundreds of people year it's growing to thousands or blinded these stats are way off. And the psychologist pours the Drano in lovingly. It's not abuse. So you're not abusing a mentally ill person. You're loving them and now the state pays and they're blind because they identify as a purple penguin. Oh, bingo.
Starting point is 02:44:48 Everybody put it up on the board. Purple penguin came back. There we are. Make this up. Sounds like a science fiction book. Who would go to a science fiction book? Who would come up with something like this to convince us to commit suicide? And I've got the articles I haven't gotten to yet where they say, oh,
Starting point is 02:45:07 trans is good lower population. Actually, oh, who would have thought of that? Oh, who would have? Oh, it's so good. You can't say you're a mother or father or a boy or girl because that hurts someone. Your identity as male or female, you're okay. Don't drain on your eyes.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Okay. Chop your genitals off. I'm paying for it. That's hate. And are you done? To that level of insanity. You'll capitulate to anything. Anything?
Starting point is 02:45:34 I am a golden dragon. You're a golden dragon. You imagine a cult movie like that? I am a beautiful ornate building. You're a beautiful ornate building. And that's their whole plan admitted to Indar species. As you know it, using these poor people as the victims. Fuck you.
Starting point is 02:45:52 And you've got whole communities of abusers who are heterosexual and homosexual feeding on these desperate mentally ill people and enjoying it. Let's go out to break. The whole thing there, the last 16 minutes of audio that we played over whatever fucking time it took was a drastically transphobic rant. Wherein he pretends that I like the people, but they're going to destroy the species. And they're fucking stupid and everyone is just enabling them and abusing them. Listen.
Starting point is 02:46:28 Oh boy. God loves gay people, but he hates their lifestyle. Right, right. God loves them. God loves them. We've heard this fucking line so many times. It's so sad. Now Jordan, do you want to end this with a smile on your face?
Starting point is 02:46:46 Because I have one more clip that Alex gets into after this. How do you? Okay. After all of this. That is just vintage. I'm glad, I'm glad he closes strong. At least that's great. No, actually he closes with talking about how Donald Trump is, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:47:05 there's hate him because he wants us to succeed. He's no, no, he's like, he's like a dog. Make me smile. Make me smile, Dan. I don't want to hear what he has to say. He's like a dog. And I say that in a good way. Like one of those dogs that would, would die trying to bring you water.
Starting point is 02:47:19 What's that? Bernard, I say dog in a good way. I don't know. That's how he closes. Nope. But this is how he gets to that close. Okay. And it is vintage.
Starting point is 02:47:30 Go fuck yourself, Alex Jones. Because here's the thing. I wrote a bicycle and I've been around a block. And I could have had sex with the most beautiful women in Hollywood. And I never did it. You know why? Every time they didn't have a soul, I couldn't get attracted to him because it was all fake and all the rest of it.
Starting point is 02:47:55 And let me tell you something. These people have no souls. They're not happy unless they're doing bad stuff. Great. Great. So fucking you is bad stuff. No, apparently it's not because they would have been thrilled to do that because they have no souls.
Starting point is 02:48:09 So fucking him would be good stuff. Wait. So the reason they didn't fuck him was because they don't have souls. Yeah. No, that's why he wouldn't fuck them. What? So I'm Alex Jones. You're Angelina Jolie.
Starting point is 02:48:21 Yeah. Hey. How's it going? Pretty good. You want to have sex? Ooh, you don't have a soul. Shit. No, I don't want to have sex with you.
Starting point is 02:48:34 Oh, thanks for offering. I'm going to talk about this on my radio show in the future. Where do I get a soul? And why wasn't I born with one? And why don't I have? You gave yours up by signing with the globalist. Souls real? Maybe we should have a larger conversation.
Starting point is 02:48:49 No, it's just sex with you. OK, well, then how about you? Stab, stab, stab. How about you go fuck yourself? Yeah, exactly. I would say that judging someone is having no soul, especially judging an entire population of people who is having no soul, probably indicates more about you than the people you're judging.
Starting point is 02:49:07 Anyway, Alex, go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself, Alex. What a piece of shit. So if you want to, this is the end of the show. If you like more of our show, we are at KnowledgeFight.com. And again, we talked about this hours ago, but there is a great article. Everyone needs to put that out if they can.
Starting point is 02:49:25 If you're Dan, if you are on Facebook or Twitter and you can push this out to more people, it is important that more people understand that Alex Jones is probably committing a crime. Dan fucking did some real investigative journalism and it's incredible. And I am hiccuping. So there we go.
Starting point is 02:49:47 Do I need to scare you? Edit this out. Do I need to scare you? Edit this out. Edit this whole thing out. Let me scare you. You do the plugs. I'll not hiccup until I have to tell somebody to go fuck.
Starting point is 02:49:59 Let me scare you. Let me scare the hiccup time. Okay. I think Alex Jones is right. No! You hiccuped in the middle of the night. I know. We are on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
Starting point is 02:50:14 We're on Facebook. You can find us on iTunes. You're back. You can go to knowledgefight.com. Yes. And also just in honor of our good friend, John, policy wonk, John, I'd like to end the show by playing a little clip for him.
Starting point is 02:50:30 I don't know what level he is in terms of, you know, the donations and stuff. I do know. After his research. He's a technocrat. Oh yeah. And so I'd like to give him that honorary designation here at the end of the show.
Starting point is 02:50:42 Agreed. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little titty baby.
Starting point is 02:51:00 I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much, John, for all your help and everything. You're a great dude. Agreed. We are ending this show, but I will say, knowing very little about the man, I'll throw a hand to the ring for someone who can fuck themselves.
Starting point is 02:51:15 I mean, obviously it should be Alex after the show. Of course. But it seems implied. Let's make it larger. I would say Jordan Peterson can go fuck himself. Absolutely. I don't know much about him, but the more I learn about him, the more I think he needs to go fuck himself.
Starting point is 02:51:29 Agreed. Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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