Knowledge Fight - #136: March 30-31, 2008

Episode Date: March 12, 2018

Today, Dan begins to tell Jordan about his investigation into Alex Jones and the beginning of the Tea Party movement. Unfortunately, he way overshot the start date, so this episode is mostly about how Alex is afraid of science and takes it personally when anyone suggests white people may be bad. 

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed that is what we do Dan Dan Dan Dan Dan Jordan Jordan Dan Jordan why in God's name would you listen to this podcast? Maybe you're disenchanted with meaningless talk I couldn't keep that up. You have come to the wrong place. Yeah, this is all a hot load of bullshit I don't know. I think Are we gonna

I don't know anything about Alex Jones. I know a lot about him We've got to change that from why would anyone listen to this show to like what is the like? I don't know how to fix this. You're giving me notes. No, because I didn't finish I thought we got a good bit out of it. I thought we got a good joke next bit is going to be us having a A meeting about our introduction Jordan today we have I hate it when my boss comes down on me. Oh, it's going to be a horrible meeting You don't need to sit down. Okay. It's one of the I've had a lot of those meetings in my life pack up your pack up your things and leave my room. Yeah

The studio Um, so uh, Jordan today, we got an interesting show. Uh, but before we get to it I would like to give a shout out to a couple of new donors. Hey We're thrilled about it. Thank you so much. First of all going out to uh, Dan G I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much, Dan great name Love it strong name Congratulations on becoming a policy wonk. Yes, and you will be uh, uh joining Dan for his next podcast How great is Dan Dan's Dan's a Dan of all Dan of the people a Dan for all seasons

Any of these could be the name of my Dan I'm a big fan of uh, Dan on fire starring. Uh, yeah, first episode of the podcast Dan Cortez. Oh, yeah, there you go second episode Wilford brimley. Yes. Okay. Um, also like to give a shout out to another new donor. What's going on out there fred I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much fred. Thank you very much fred. I'm a policy Jesus my itunes is real glitchy. Uh, but thank you. We appreciate it. Congratulations on becoming a policy wonk If you would like to become a policy wonk all you folks out there listening You can go to our website knowledge fight.com click the support the show button and uh, it will be a done deal You'll be a policy. Is that how you become a policy wonk that Dan? It sounds too easy. It sounds too good to be

How could you? Um, have you ever tried to donate to a podcast or you're like, I don't know what's going on We'll try the click the support the show button. Yep. That's the best way. Um, so jordan I've teased this and today we are beginning the next investigation into alex jones's past Famously over the course of most of last year We dug deep into what happened to get alex jones to join up with team trump Right and we came away with a pretty solid consensus that it was artificial inflation of his traffic via dummies and bots Uh, because he admitted on air that his traffic had tripled and his sails were flat. Yep

Mysteriously no one buying anything, but uh, three times the uh traffic. It's very suspicious Also the insidious influences of roger stone and steve pechenick showing up Uh with their uh 45 group right around the same time right right So we've got a pretty good handle on that There's there's other intricacies that you can go back and listen to hundreds of hours of recording about Yes, yes, perhaps laboriously covered it is maybe the most exhaustive Exhaustive coverage of the oh, yeah, you knew why yeah

It's the it's one of the most in-depth and long, uh Investigations that no one asked for no and it turns out i'm doing another I am interested to figure out uh alex jones presents himself as the person who's most responsible for the tea party Right, he believes himself to be a leader of the tea party from the jump Uh, and I want to explore The realities or lies Therein also along the way because of the timeline we'll be covering uh barack obama's first election We'll be covering the primary where barack obama and hillary clinton. We're going for the democratic domination right

We'll see where his uh his head is at along that road There's gonna be a lot of interesting stuff because the tea party in urnist came to the forefront of the Uh national consciousness in the beginning of 2009 Yeah, immediately after a black man was elected mysteriously quick. Yeah after that. However, odd Odd how quick it happened. However, if you actually look into the history of it, it had been something that had been uh sort of roiling under the surface Uh, uh Thanks to the coke brothers. Yeah. Oh, yeah for a while before that

But we will get into a lot of that and try and figure out what is what exactly along the way And in doing so I hope we'll be able to learn more about alex jones's true center Like exactly what is bullshit and what is Actually important to him like we know guns are super important to him absurdly so and we know that chimeras are strangely important to him But beyond that there's so much of these trappings that we see In his day to day especially currently then like it doesn't seem sincere. It just seems like he's a trump apologist Right, I think and it's more interesting

I think to go back to 2008 just because He is still relatively under the radar back then. It's true Compared to now where he's he's showing up in in all kinds of places that he wishes he weren't uh back then in 2008 It was like Oh, yeah, there's a yeah that crazy guy. I've heard so I've heard some crazy shit about him There weren't tons of blogs covering him. He wasn't getting sued by everybody Um people he could just slander and ever want to be like who right? He was happily married to his first wife didn't make as much money

Yeah, and therein lies perhaps where he sold his soul and also as we covered in another episode from 2008 Previously he seemed much happier Much happier going just singing the highway man. Oh, yeah For half of an episode So, uh, jordan, he never woke up in the morning and said, oh god, why did I fucking Hitched my wagon to this fucking insane lunatic. I thought I was supposed to be crazy He just had ron paul uh that he's hitched his way into because that seems to be consistent through all of this history Um, but we will get in game recognized game dan

We'll get into all of the intricacies and uh nonsense along the way and I'm just gonna admit it up front I started this investigation too early I didn't know so so we're gonna have an even more exhaustive Investigation I didn't I didn't know when the primary season started in earnest And so I started on march 30th of uh 2008 so today we're covering march 30th and 31st 2008 and at this point Nothing about the primary really at one point. Uh, uh, never mind. That's a spoiler for another episode He's not anti obama at this point. No, he's not at all Okay, in fact, he has an interview with someone that we'll talk about on a future episode where he's too anti hillaried

Uh, and he's saying he's saying stuff like obama is gonna get killed because he's an outsider That sort of stuff right that's where his mind is at at this point But still no like talk about the primaries. No real talk about Um, the election at all so strange because if you like this election that we just had lasted Eight years it twisted my mind into thinking of course, they'll be talking about this right? Yeah, it makes you think that that's a reasonable thing for an election to take three years Now turns out it was not a hot topic back then but what was Let's start on march 30th and see what alex is obsessed about. Okay spoiler alert

It's uh, he's freaked out about cern and they shoot different uh different particles of lead and uranium and plutonium and gold and other uh Heavy elements at the speed of light into other elements or they accelerate them towards each other And and these things cost hundreds of billions of dollars to build the european union built the biggest one They've got a whole bunch of them here in the u.s And i'm gonna get a bunch of top scientists and physicists on about this every time i mention this people email me and say man

You're like a bushel. Uh, you have about seven. I don't rip over. Yeah, you know stuff that isn't documented And all I know is the head of the british Royal society the most procedures in the world who's a physicist Wrote a book 20 years ago saying this could easily destroy the planet or the solar system Uh, there's a bunch of physicists that are now suing to block this new collider That the equations show that there is a another possibility of uh Basically any matter explosions is the simplest way to put it

Is the simplest way to put it. I mean sometime this week someday on the weekday show or Maybe even tomorrow In fact trade my producer's in there yesterday. I dug up One of these physicists who's suing that's where trick I came from. I sent that to you It all makes it a trench. It's a bunch of them on And these are not quacks. These are And they're saying you Are telling all sorts. Yeah, that's a tell

That's what we call a tell have to say. Yeah. Hey and listen, you can trust these guys. They're not quacks Why did you say that I wouldn't have thought they were quacks because I'm used to non quacks being on shows He must have had general stubblebind on recently and everyone's like hold on alex. We don't know about this Yeah, we don't know about your quackery perhaps to the point of detriment you kind of think well if they're on cnn They're not a quack. I can assume they're not a quack So I don't need so you get kind of comfortable with assuming that they're not quacks Well, it's now then you start looking at it now And you see the guests that some of these people have on or or the new yorker or the new york times who they're hiring

And you're kind of like oh shit. Maybe all of these people are quacks There's a matter of vetting that alex doesn't do and we're starting to realize that Other places don't do as good a job as they do. No kidding. We had made a lot of assumptions And it turns out some of these people. Oh boy. They belong on info wars Right. Um, so it's uh, it's trouble. It's trouble. Um, alex is pretty obsessed about this And he says that he's going to get uh, these physicists on who aren't quacks, right? And uh, we will be dealing with that a little bit later suffice it to say I mean not today. We'll be dealing with it on the next episode doing too much. I I have

I have some knowledge of the next couple episodes. So I This is a difficult place for me to begin. So they're so they're getting a physicist who graduated from the homeopathy University or what kind of what kind of physicists are we getting from what I can tell this guy's actually pretty Legit in terms of his credentials. Uh, but at the same time, he's a guy who in 1999 Said that colliding Particles against each other will create huge black holes and destroy the universe and right it didn't Uh, and then here in 2008, he's trying to sue to stop CERN from being

Opened and it doesn't work out because the judge says that he's failed to prove in any way that there's Uh, you know, uh, the potential threat that would merit it. Oh, and also u.s. courts don't have jurisdiction over European scientific experiments odd odd wait, so why did the judge even bother? He was just having it He was like, well, this is better than some of my other cases. I've taken recently might not might as well rule on this I'm bored. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly the process wherein you decide what gets on the docket and what doesn't Because you you you would just toss it out. You don't have like you you don't have standing Yeah, I mean unless you you really believe it in which case of course you do

The entire world is going to be turned into a black hole. See I in that sense. I think you do have standing Well, exactly but in terms of jurisdiction Yeah, you do not The sheriff is the highest law that is true in the land speaking to someone whose name sounds like a sheriff All right, that was a perfect transition especially since I did a finger you did do a finger gun Um on this episode pretty early on uh, alex jones has a visit from one jim mars I don't know if you know who jim mars is now. He's a gentleman who is notoriously Notoriously isn't the right word. He's pretty roundly

Looked at is one of the world's premier conspiracy theorists. Okay. Like he's a big guy How do you become a premier conspiracy? Are your conspiracies better than everybody else's he wrote a bunch of books about jfk And sort of he's seen as on the forefront of the jfk Conspiracy, I don't know what that means. Uh, he also taught like an accredited college class on conspiracies And I think that elevates him out of the muck Into academia to some extent. Um, so he's a professor of the conspiracy theories that he makes up Yeah, but but but also It's important to know that he also wrote two books about ancient aliens. So all right

I don't like the more we learn about ancient aliens and the more they are still from there and not Here the these stuff like the conversations that you want to have about jfk. I'm all yours for you know, like I'm I'm open to hearing arguments about uh, the anti-castro cubans the cia The the mafia I'm open to hearing any of these because that is a really fucked up Thing that happened right and I'm willing to believe that there was some sort of uh conspiracy involved there And you know what frankly? It's just a more fun world So if it wasn't just one, uh, lunatic who killed him, you know, I don't know if it's fun It's a more fun world. It's a more. It's a more fantastical world. It's a more movie like world

Whatever the case may be. I might or might not agree with you I think it was actually sir hand sir hand who did it. They did both of them did both. Oh boy Who's a double tap? Um, I I don't know if it's more fun. Um, but I don't think you're crazy If you believe in jfk conspiracies. Yes, I think we can have a certain Jfk conspiracy. Yeah, I'll listen to all of them. But yeah, you're right. There is a lot. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah I do like the sir hands or hands, right? Yes. I do think you're crazy if you believe in ancient aliens All right, that's the line I want to make and Jim Mars is on both sides So I consider him to be someone who has credibility problems

Uh, but also research is if you say he's one of the Foremost conspiracy theorists that's the end of credibility to me So he's on the show to talk about uh, rfk. Uh, he's here to talk about the rfk assassination And so here's a little clip of that Well, uh, of course, this is actually nothing new Uh, it may and many other people, uh, almost since the time of the robert kennedy assassination Have uh, loudly tried to shout out that uh, he was not killed by Sir hand sir hand who cannot remember anything that happened. So says sir hands sir

But what makes any story significant is that after all these years and after all the Further evidence including scientific evidence comes out More and more people are waking up and beginning to realize that the so-called conspiracy theories Were actually right all along the conspiracy theorists are right all along and people are realizing every conspiracy Theorist says that though. Yeah, it is it is sort of like White noise at this point to have conspiracy theorists tell you they're right. Yeah, and that you need to wake up Um, so a couple things. I mean the sir hand sir hand and the assassination of rfk There are some interesting elements of it that I think are not being told in terms of there is pretty

um Compelling circumstantial evidence that there were other people involved. Oh, yeah It it looks like there was at least one woman who was involved Uh, and they may or may not have been stalking rfk previous to the assassination um, but to me rfk is uh, the the one thing that I Like this is the one thing where I do not need any evidence I am just going to come out and say that I swear to god. I think the fbi killed rfk Really? I really do well. I I really do mainly because rfk was

Perhaps becoming the most Compassionate and progressive candidate in the history of the united states right the speech that he gave Uh on the day that martin lucer king jr. Died who by the way was also murdered by the fbi On the day that martin lucer king jr. Died he came out and gave an off-the-cuff speech that was one of the more I mean a lot of people credit it with the fact that the city he was in Uh, didn't riot uh-huh because they heard that speech right right like that's how serious he was He spent so much time going overseas and seeing all of this starvation firsthand Yeah, and he had really made this change and he was

Going to win like he was crushing uh the other candidate at the time who was what walter mondale or whatever Humphrey Humphrey God in the primary. Yeah, Humphrey lost to nixon. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah Yeah, look, I this is again a conversation that i'm fine having right. I don't think you're super crazy if you believe this but also The idea that sir hand sir hand did it Also, isn't crazy. Oh, yeah. No, no, absolutely. I'm gonna read to you from the court transcript Of sir hand sir hands trial sir hand sir hand Quote

Oh, I totally did that shit. He's he's asked. So then there was a time the love To the love turned to hate because he had previously to this said that he liked rfk Yes, uh, was that at a time when senator kennedy was a candidate for the president of the united states, right? His answer. Yes, it was during the time He was but not exactly specifically when it turned into hate not only that hate really because I still loved him But when he came out with his support for the state of israel and when he said he would give them 50 phantom jet bombers to israel And then the questioning resumes at that time He was the president candidate for president of the united states answer. Yes question

You say it wasn't until all of that that uh that you hate him hate then and then he's cut off No, but it was enough for me sir that anything that has to do with israel or the zionists or support of israel That is enough cause for me sir to hate him question But not all of that answer. Well enough sir to have an impression only question enough to kill him answer I don't know about that sir question. Well, did you uh, Didn't you just tell us here a few days ago that if you had him right there you would have blasted him? The answer uh at the time he came out and said he would send those 50 jet bombers I would have done that question. You would have done that answer. Yes. I'm a very impulsive person

I Whatever my objective would be this is a great conversation. Whatever my objective would be. It's just uh good for that time only so This is That's like that's like an interrogation in the drunk tech. Mm-hmm. Just like yeah, I mean I might have Yeah, I mean I could have I certainly would have at that point I mean it's possible like when it happened. Maybe I would have I don't know if I did I don't remember but I was there and I was shooting

I don't know all the stuff about All the stuff about like brain control and stuff like that is also murky because He wrote in a like they found his diary Yeah, and there was an entry that said my determination to eliminate rfk is becoming more and more of an unshakable obsession Rfk must die rfk must be killed. Robert f. Kennedy must be assassinated So these guys always keep a diary, don't they that's because they're fucking mentally ill. I know that's what I'm saying There's a compulsion. Well. Yeah. I mean if you write rfk must die twice Like a teenage girl writing that she loves somebody. Yeah, you're gonna kill that person most likely and uh, you know

Psychiatrists and psychologists have gone on record and say that he's like A manipulative person and also of dual natures and fairly schizophrenic And that falls in line with someone who would probably want to tell you that I don't remember that murder never heard of it Right, I mean and if you believe a murderer who says I don't remember that murder that's on you Because as we went over on that project camelot episode about mark richards He says he was off-planet during the murder. He was involved. Well, he was sorry. You're gonna take him at his word I would I would assume so. I don't know. I'm going to look at a preponderance of the evidence and I'm going to say The fbi did it fine. You can have that you can have that I'm I'm not as convinced of that and uh

Jim Mars would have more credibility if he hadn't written two books about engine aliens And if he didn't say this, uh, they get into talking about uh, americans who supported, uh, the nazis Uh, yeah, the names of the names of prominent americans who supported hitler is is pretty amazing You've got uh, watson of ibm. You've got henry ford of ford motor company. You've got chase bank and john say mccloy Chase bank is a dullest brothers. Nope. Alex brings up the bushes, but conspicuous in their absence from that list is fred coke Never heard of him the coke brothers father fred coke in world no idea in world war two He partnered with uh partnered with an american nazi sympathizer named william roads davis to help build the third largest oil refinery in the third rike He also made a ton of money selling cracking stills uh to stallen

Uh, and then after that he would go on to create the anti-communist and anti-semitic john birch society Yeah mysterious in his absence though in that list There's all there's a lot of people that they list And fred coke is a big one among those names. I mean I sure he may have had an outsize impact Uh, sure he may be perhaps personally responsible for at least 40 percent of uh, a lot of the war crimes um, I mean the but you know It

He doesn't remember it. He said that he didn't know what was going on He was like he felt like he might have done it at the time, but he wasn't sure Oh, you're going with a sir hand that exactly sir hand defense the sir hand defense is my favorite uh chest opening gambit What's super interesting if you look at the history of fred coke too is that uh when he went over and worked with stallen Uh, he came back uh as an anti-communist. He was really anti What he saw over there, right? This was not the case with fascism Oh, no, he did not become like an anti-fascist dude And still him and his sons have trafficked with uh, nazi sympathizers and holocaust deniers

For a large part of their careers and lives. So that's interesting to me. I don't know I don't know if it's like intentional leaving them off the list Because you do have those people when we talked about watson. He definitely had some Inclination towards ford. Absolutely. He also was responsible for disseminating the protocols of the elders of zion at one point You know, there are there is a lot of troubling history of us business interests and uh, the nazis I mean if you run your business like a fascist dictator, you have to assume that you're going to be A big fan of fascism. Yeah, I mean like ford had a morality code and you had to do all of this shit And there was a whole like lifestyle that you had to live by

Just to work for him like he controlled every aspect of your life. Right that guy is going to be like Dictators are pretty cool. Yeah, I do it well, I uh, I I get the mentality that you're describing, but I'm just talking about like why isn't this on the list Oh, why aren't you and to be fair? This isn't the strongest, uh, sentiment that I have But it's it's curious. Oh, because alex does talk about these americans who work with nazis all the time Yeah, and fred coke never comes up. Well, of course not and so that might be a little reason to be suspicious Also, it turns out. I don't think that they think hitler was that bad

Well, they put hitler in power and then shut him up. I mean, I mean, you know, but that's all mainstream history I can't wait. I'm gonna carry the book I like now history is also mainstream mainstream history history. Can't we just have the can't we just have history? Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be nice because history is you think it's predicated on facts. Yeah, you would think not no Um, so it you know why? It all changed whenever the fbi murdered rfk. I'll tell you that right now. So at this point, we have um, you know a very weird Uh, hitler was set up uh declaration by alex and now Was he set up who knows but now they set him up for one crime or all of them probably all of them

Yeah, probably all of them hitler was just a dude who was trying to have a like he was just a Dumb and Dumber situation where he's just bumbling throughout the holocaust like well, I'll sign off on this paper like yeah Yeah, was he mr. Magoo? Yeah, you married a coat wreck Everyone thought it was Eva brawn. No, no blonde wig on a coat right? That's why she survived in that bunker Yeah, so uh, it's now as good a time as any to go to two very weird commercials that alex plays on this episode that I don't know what to make of and uh

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Bible becomes Faced in an entirely deeper and richer way because you have been where it happened You'll never be the same when you visit israel to start planning your trip to israel today Visit www.goisrael.com That's crazy he plays two commercials about going to israel I want to know who wrote that jingle. I don't I can tell you what business wrote it No I can tell you if that business it was Larry Nichols. Yeah, it was he was a jingle writer

Um that uh, those uh, our ads for go israel And I looked into it you go to their website go israel.com and you scroll down g o is r a e l Go to israel Uh, if you scroll down all the way down the page, uh, you will see that the site is owned and operated by the ministry Of tourism of the israeli government. Well, yeah, it had to be right It's not like those two people were tour were travel agents. No, this is from the israeli government tourism board and he was the Ahead of the four square church. I don't care. I'm not I do

I want to know exactly what kind of four scare four square. They're playing no cherry bombs. Well, you got to have cherry bombs No cherry bombs. You can't not have cherry bombs. Look You're glossing over something that I find incredibly weird Because I want to make it totally clear off the top. I don't think this in any way proves That alex jones is an agent of israel like so many of his critics claim. No, of course not, but it is proof Like indisputable proof The genesis communications network was making ad revenue off the israeli government in 2008. Well, yeah

And that's wild because I don't hear any other commercials for go to guatemala Other countries. I don't know why I don't know why the israeli government was like info wars Is where we're going to get some great tourists, right? That's bananas to me. There's that I like they must have just been blanket, you know, let's put ads out on everything and not really paying attention to what they're doing See, I don't think it was info wars. I think it was genesis communications network I think it's a network thing. So it's it's just this is before alex had his own 24 hour Well, I mean most of the commercials that play are for uh end game the documentary

And other documentaries most of it is in-house commercials for his documentaries and books and stuff and then Every now and again something like this And I gotta be honest it threw me for a crazy loop Yeah, I don't know what to make of it so you're after Going to go to israel.com. You were never the same. I'm I'm still the same, but I'm confused You'll never Be the same that's almost as good as diamond gusset

But it's crazy man. It is nuts I don't like Again, I don't why is that so nuts to you? because Look, I don't agree with their conclusion But one of the pieces of argument that his anti alex's anti-semitic critics make against him is absolutely true Genesis communications was making money directly from the government of israel. Yeah, but that's just like it was the tourism board Right, like the tourism board, you know, there's so much of the government so many

You see billboards and shit for like go to go to mexico like all this is a royal caribbean cruise ad I understand that you see like go to wyoming on the cta buses, right? It's like that is paid for by the wyoming tourism board Which is actually where you'll see where the bible happened, but it would be different You're trying to get through that it would be different if all cta bus drivers were anti wyomingites Their worldview was based on lies about wyoming And Everyone how do you know that's not true and everybody who criticized ventra said that they secretly worked for wyoming

That's what would make it. That's what makes it very difficult for me Like if I were alex jones and I were ted anderson I would say thank you tourism board of israel. We appreciate the offer But we don't want to accept this because we were afraid it would give the appearance The thing that we are inaccurately criticized about all the time. It seems like bad optics for us Thank you very much, but we have to pass right. That's what I But again like this goes back to my argument about his antisemitic critics in that they give him cover So he can be as antisemitic as he wants and they are like you're you're not an antisemite

So he's running this commercial to bait them exactly that way He's not that way he can play the victim if you call him antisemitic He's like look these guys are antisemitic and they hate me. So I clearly am not yeah, it's possible that that's probably like if you If you want like to me, that's a smart move If he was doing it on purpose, which he probably wasn't but there's there's so many layers of intention there It's very it's very confusing to me. I don't know. I don't know what it means I have zero idea I don't think that it's proof that he works for israel or anything like that. I'm not changing my position on that

I think your position is the most sensible because it at least accounts for the psychology of the individuals, right? but I don't I Well, and then there's the other psychology, which is ted anderson really likes money But they were offering to give it to him. But also at the time ted anderson was running a show called Um, uh, what really happened with don't go to israel.com He was running a show called what really happened with mike revero at the time And he was a fucking super anti israel. He was a aggressively anti israel guy, right? But business is business, man I don't know. I it's very confusing to me. I don't know the ins and outs

Anyway in this next clip I don't think we have a conclusion there. No, I don't think there's anything concrete to draw from that at all Weird. Um, and in this next clip alex jones lists a bunch of people who have spoken out about 9 11 Uh, and then comes in with a little bit of scare tactic at the end But now we have just everybody all these physicists all these scientists, uh, you know, italian presidents cia section chiefs uh willy nelson, I mean

All these top actors Best actress this year Bruce will is uh, no longer being a neocon saying they killed kennedy and the same group that did that basically did 9 11 I mean, they're losing all their own people. What are they gonna do? Well, unfortunately, they'll probably go to the tactic of desperation new to launch another war or to set off a nuke or some terrible Too soon for that move weapon in this country And then of course blame it on foreign terrorists and take more power. Meanwhile the very same elite with the admitted

Superconducting super colliders and other similar facilities are doing things their own equations say good chance of blowing the entire planet Good chance is strong. Good chance. Good chance is strong. What is a good chance? What would you would you put that at like 35 percent or are we going with a really good chance of like 65 percent neither? Much lower, um Sue willy nelson is on par with scientists And the italian president Multiple I guess because this is back when sylvio burlesconi was running wild Did burlesconi say 9 11 was an inside job? He probably did. He was drunk. He was crazy

Yeah, he was fuck. He was in the middle of fucking eight prostitutes at the time Right 9 11 was an inside job. Get over here. Apologies. Get over here. Yeah So, yeah, um, I mean I kept that clip in because that uh transition between italian presidents and willy nelson is really funny So good, uh, but then also just to illustrate that 10 years ago. Alex was still doing the exact same scare tactics That like the next thing they're gonna do is nuke right that same because he did he did that around the election There's so many other moves to make before nuke right it seems like you've got it He's not you got like a protocol of like okay if they do this we do this like nuke is at the very bottom He's not concerned with that. He just wants to scare people because then you can

Right make those ducats which seems it seems crazy And this is probably my own prejudice But anytime I hear somebody who is supposed to be an expert with a southern accent. I'm always gonna be like Are you Yeah, that is a bias you need to get over it. I'm sorry The southern accent really kind of invalidates a lot for me There's a lot of dumb people who speak like that and it hurts logically. No logically It doesn't track right no if a then b if b then c it doesn't mean anything

Well, it's just the media perception that's been given to people with southern twangs right the gentleman's twang Well, I mean they haven't really done a great job of representing I I think I would say there's a good chance that all southern people Have never graduated. I don't know what I don't know what the I don't know where I was going with that I'm trying to think of famously smart people who speak How's it going? It's tough Did steven hawking before he got the al s we can't prove he doesn't have a southern accent. No, that's possible

It's not good that the only person I could come up with is jim ross wwe announcer jim ross. Yeah, that's not great. He's pretty smart though So, uh, this is a sunday show. So it's a it's a shorter, uh, affair And alex has one more interview on the show and it is an interview with a, uh What's this guy's name? I don't remember his first name, but he's a Japanese politician by the name of fujita and I just threw it out with the bathwater because it's nonsense. Uh, they just talk 9 11 truth But if you look into it

All like this guy this Japanese guy Only is into 9 11 truth because he watched loose change which was produced by alex jones So alex jones's film gave this guy questions about 9 11, right? And then they made them public And now he's a guest on alex jones repeating the same shit back to creating the feedback loop that they uh thrive on so much It's not even a feedback loop It's an elevation loop because now you have a foreign politician Who's regurgitating your narratives back to you which elevates them from your standard rabble Now I just want a japanese translated version of loose change. I bet you could find one

I bet it'd be great. It'd probably be riveting. It'd be so good So it was kind of a bore like whenever jimmy james's book was translated into japanese as a super karate death card. Oh, yeah kill killed war um war So, uh, I threw that out. We don't need to listen to it. Who cares? But at the end of the show, there's a couple callers that I think are worth listening to and here's the first one It's a guy named nick spelled n i k which is a good sign Uh, let's go ahead and take another ring a dingy

Ring a dingy. Let's go ahead and talk to you. He's so much happening in i k Nick in arizona. You're on the air Hey, you're out good I just want to thank you for your inspiration. Absolutely. I mean my brother I started this website called lookupandwakeup.org here in the Dean's valley. We're starting to cover the chem trails and the uh surveillance I just want to give you a quick example of what happened to me the other night No

At 12 30 in the morning So I can't chop up my house indeed about 20 minutes later I go outside to have a cigarette and I see the chopper in a distance and as soon as I step outside you go towards me And then all of a sudden you have to get to it down different houses or so good. You're all kind of I also can't have that chopper on the board. It's got to be on you Yeah, and then I first started coming towards me and then He's fucking working out a quick flash that he turned around my house and it was a full mean bad night

Well drink fluoride everything's okay Calm down. Drink fluoride. Drink fluoride. It's gonna be all right. Submit to him. He's good So I got out and all of a sudden I'm looking around and I'm hearing the chopper and then all of a sudden This guy's flying over my house like stop mode didn't have his light on and I turn around and then bam The freaking light is shining down on me like for no reason I don't understand Well, you're out sir. You're evil. Okay You need to be tracked and traced and there's no more warrants. No more free speech. You're bad. Okay Submit to it. It doesn't exist

Trans-Texas corridor doesn't exist. The billboard doesn't exist. CNN says there's no toll roads on the roads Sentry isn't spanish on the Austin Chronicle says everything's fine. Go to sleep. Shut up submit to government Love them. Drink your fluoride. Take your mercury filled injections. Love them. Love them Just please learn to submit to them Oh, it's so simple it is So the only thing I want to say there is kind of a bummer at the end. Well, I his sarcasm is bad I don't think that's sarcasm. I think he's phoning it in but I think It's irresponsible if someone calls you and is like

There is a helicopter following me because I write a chem trail blog. That's essentially what that guy was getting to Well, yeah, I'm a target of helicopter surveillance the moment I started writing about Chemtrails now helicopters are coming over my house without their lights on exactly one to one I think if someone calls you and says that it's your responsibility as an adult to say This is paranoia You need to look into this Not and stop living with your brother not scream at them drink fluoride submit to this and further their paranoia Right, but alex jones makes money off paranoia. So he's fine inflicting these poor people

And indulging their bizarre paranoid fantasies Because look look the other day There was a fucking helicopter flying over my house for like almost the entire day Well, yeah, but that didn't happen until we started doing this podcast right a year and a half after But there's like there's helicopters of all the fucking time and you know why I'm not too far from the like lakeshore drive Right, there's traffic helicopters all the time over it or uh, hey There's crime around and sometimes there are helicopters that are Looking for crime. Exactly. And so it's easy to interpret those things

Incorrectly, I just got the image of the police helicopter pilots just being like, oh, it's four o'clock boys Let's go looking for some crime and then everybody just let's go find dan Yeah, let's go when you see a helicopter closely over your house, for example It's easy to think. Oh, this is suspicious Because you don't have all the information in the same way. I get a lot of uh calls when I answer them No, one's there Right, and I if I wanted to I could play the game of People are fucking stalking me over the phone

And if I were to express those things to you you would very likely say That is an unhealthy way to look at it, right? If you did that you'd be being a bad person I would definitely be being a bad friend. Yes, and uh, but you although maybe it would be bad Or for the show dan maybe have you considered that but it's this it's the same level of paranoia or the same style of paranoia Which is taking an innocuous thing That has an explanation and giving it the explanation that you want. Yeah, the reality is that whoever used to have my phone number Uh has bounty hunters looking for you. Well, of course, and that's the I've been there's no other explanation

Well, it's the it's it's definitely the explanation that is uh, I have to deal with It's a bummer You know what it turns out with bounty hunters. You can't get on the don't call list like telemarketers No, turns out they can just keep calling right you can request. Hey, take me off your list. They don't respect that Also, hey take me off your bounty hunting list, please Also, it turns out they don't believe you when you say I've never met that person. That's kind of their job though Yeah, it's annoying for me Anyway, uh, alex gets another caller. Uh, and this one I think is actually this this one illustrates alex jones' lack of commitment to the cause

Uh, let's go ahead now and uh, take another call steve in denver Colorado you're on the air. Hey alex good show again today I was going to suggest what if we had something like a woodstock 9 11 Big concert where we had one day where we had all these musicians and all these actors and famous people come together and we just Spent one day wait hold on Did he just say woodstock 9 11 concert? Yeah, like a 9 11 woodstock Like a woodstock all about 9 11 What do you what do you what's your problem? Sorry? I I heard that and then my brain was like

No, and then and I like that was very strange for me I let the clip keep going and then in my head I all of a sudden I was just like wait Woodstock 9 11 concert you're mixing like is that a 9 11 themed concert? Yes Should we have a 9 11 themed party? No Is that in poor taste? Yes. It is. I Like a pool party And then we'd all jump into they we would have like, you know how you have towers We would have we would have two people standing on top of each other in the water

And then we'd throw you at them when I was in college and then the third plane would actually hit The house when I was in college and I had uh much Uh Worst taste let's say and I had less decorum. Um, I was full of piss and vinegar I had an idea for a 9 11 party where I had twin bongs Uh, and the uh lighters would be dressed up as planes very nice And I would make a 9 and 11 layer dip two different dips There were some uh, oh also these are some great party ideas also this one I did do okay, uh, we had dressed as a Nazi

No, we had uh, I think we did freedom 40s Uh, which was uh, you have to drink a 40 in nine minutes and 11 seconds or else the terrorists win That's that was a part of my 9 11 party idea that we actually did a couple times and man, it's really hard Yeah, I do not recommend anyone do it The terrorists usually will And so to answer your question, no, so that's a great metaphor really. Mm-hmm. That's a great metaphor for foreign policy Sure terrorists usually win Usually because you can't drink a 40 fast enough. Yeah. Yeah, you end up throwing up. It's too much because they hate our freedoms

It's too much liquid to drink 40s. Anyway, let's finish this clip and to answer your question No, we shouldn't have a 9 11 would start. Okay Uh, kind of helping the people with our uh architects and engineers for 9 11 truth right now We've suggested that as a media event and we could just have one major big event That we could videotape sell and try to show everybody how many people there are from the show. Here's the problem You know, and it's like that. I bet it's not the right problem It would take a lot of groups getting involved and the groups would never agree Yeah, that's and and also no one group

I'm probably the only person that could actually pull it off could go out and get the celebrities Because the celebrities don't know or don't trust because they don't know these other groups They haven't been around as long as I am, you know, the celebrities just call me up. You know, the phone rings and they're on Uh, and that's because they know I've been around a long time. They're aware of what I've been doing a long time That's been found around by people, but I haven't really actively gone out and pushed it Uh, just because I couldn't imagine the headache of it all Sure So I so the issue with a 9 11 woodstock is

infrastructure booking These are all big problems. I agree sponsors I agree with his premise that no one would agree on stuff. Yes. I definitely agree with that premise But then yeah, it's like the only person who could pull it off is me and I don't need that aggravation. It's like, dude You're not really contesting the claim that that would be huge for 9 11 truth movement Well, you're just saying I wouldn't want to put that kind of work into I mean something that I Patently saying would be effective. I miss it. Well, yeah

It would be huge for the 9 11 truth or movement if there was a real legitimate 9 11 woodstock I would I would watch that. I probably would. Do you think they would get to play? Well, you would have uh, willy nelson, of course. Absolutely. He's gonna have the italian president. He's gonna mc. Yep Um, and they have a they have like a cover group of the four tenors. Oh, do they? Yeah Can't think of any other italian president off the top of my head Are there other italians? There's a part of me that's like hologram hologram musselini So

Kid rock kid rock would play as one of the four tenors the newge the newge would definitely be the newge is in Yeah, uh, sarah paleon would probably show up Danzig mic show up. That'd be fun. He would just throw his own obviously as we've learned recently jonathan davis from corn Oh, yeah, corn would play. Oh, yeah, I bet you get a lot of new metal guys They would call it corn 11. It would be very similar to the woodstock Then So this brings us to the end of uh, march 30th Yes 2008 right, uh, the sunday show has ended and now we go to march 31st

And alex has a whole new set of fears. He is no longer obsessed with cern Although that will come back up in the very near future Today he's pissed off because the media is reporting that there are uh, white people who might be in al qaeda And uh, well, that's clearly not possible. He is uh, he's he's taking he's taking that news tough. Uh, let's say I think because he feels a little bit of personal responsibility for the white race You know what you're not far off. I kind of think that might be true Let's play let's play a couple clips, uh, and we'll get into uh, what his feelings are that are very weird There is no al qaeda. There is no real. Wow. That's a good start and so right up the gate now

And by the way, here it is in the associated press move kc attorney general terrorist behind copyright violations copyright violations terrorism See all white collars civil stuff is now terrorist Forget misdemeanor civil just a terrorist everywhere So this I believe if I were to uh, you know, if I were to Analyze what's going on here. This is a perfect case of alex jones twisting a narrative He has a story about attorney general michael mckasey who is saying things about copyright violations and terrorism

And alex has changed the story into being mckasey saying that copyright violations are terrorism Which is absolutely not the case If you read the story here, uh, what he is saying is that, uh The continuing worldwide escalation of counterfeiting and piracy poses a threat to both our economy and public safety He said that the mission of the department of justice is clear whether it's a complex international narcotics ring A corrupt public official abusing his office or some scam artists selling counterfeit software Our job is to enforce the law and bring to justice those who perpetrate these crimes He said quote the counterfeiting of products like pharmaceuticals and medical devices auto and airplane parts or electronics that go into our nation's

Critical infrastructure can present a real and direct danger to the public. This is an uh a speech that he gave And the point that he was trying to drive at is uh That uh one of the larger points was that the theft of inventions Points, uh poses a threat to the nation's health and safety and can foster terrorism And that a lot of intellectual property theft is being done by Criminal networks and the money that is made off of them can be funneled into those things right Which doesn't mean that all counterfeiting or copyright infringement is terrorism

Just that this is a source of some funding. Yeah, I would say that's a little bit scaremongering on his part Uh, there is there is a certain kind of like a alex Conflates them far too much, but he is also being a little bit uh irresponsible with the way that he is uh Combining the two. Uh, I don't particularly enjoy that kind of like If you're gonna bring in terrorism, it better be terrorism And not sure copyright infringement. It would be nice if we lived in that world. That would be nice. Yeah, unfortunately We're looking at 2008

And bush is still president. So everything is so let's consider that just for a second right um Yeah, that is one of the problems though with with this show in 2008 Is that whenever that guy was like, oh, well, they're gonna call it terrorism and they're gonna use it to take more power It's like god damn it. You are correct about that. You're just fucking wrong. Yeah. Why aren't you doing this? You're on the right Like that's what they're doing, but they're Not doing it that way and you're you're not helping us fight what they're doing because you're like Well, the problem isn't what they're doing. The problem is this magical thinking over here And it's like no, no, no, they aren't

Join us. Well, and also get on the right team And also the end result of all this stuff is just rationalizing the uh, you know surveillance. Yeah, exactly. And so It doesn't charm me, you know, like in terms of uh, in terms of what mccasey was doing and what bush was up to I I agree spiritually with like being against it, but it doesn't help to lie about it. Yeah Well, exactly, which I think is what you're saying. Yeah Anyway in this next clip Talk go get back into the idea that white people are joining al-qaeda And this is based on a report that came out

that al-qaeda was trying to enlist white people And that's a reasonable thing to think because I mean most famously we had john walkerland Right back in the early 2000s who was a white guy who had signed up with the taliban, right? You have adam. Uh, yeah, hey, he got in You have you have you have a number of people over the years who have been white Westerners who have joined al-qaeda. Yeah, and in a clip That we're gonna hear in just a minute We will get

The obvious rationalization for this and then we'll get alex's Taking a kind of personal Weird. Yeah, weird just as I told you they would do they get they're building this giant mechanism To track everything you do trace everything you do Micro manage you turn your national ID card off Your pharmacist your doctor your lawyer school teachers everyone spying publicly truck drivers. What neighbors Neighborhood tabletail squads recruiting the high schoolers. I mean it's massive Truck manufacturers hiring the former head of the stasi to train the feds how to do this fire trucks

I want to be I want to just pause that just for a second dumps like a truck It's alex is saying that the former head of the stasi is being Involved in teaching people how to do this right a couple years later He would make the exact same claim about social media He would say that the head of the stasi is involved in facebook and stuff like this is just something busy In the same way he's got a lot of irons in the fire the head of the stasi Isn't just going to focus on one thing in the same way that a couple clips back We heard him do the like the globalists are desperate. They're going to probably nuke or false flag

Shit that he does all the fucking time It turns out another one that he's done for at least 10 years now has been say the head of the stasi is involved in some Shit, he'll get in there Unspecifically enough that it's almost impossible to I mean it's not like he's personally involved. He delegates responsibility But he's the one who comes up with the projects perhaps No Hiring the former head of the kgb. I mean they're really doing it Going for broke

and always Afghanistan great foley work It's to kill the middle easterners don't tell them that they're not middle easterners that get into the middle east boys No, I don't think it's all for you saying that It's all for you. So when they take your ranch and you say no, they can bring the swat team up and burn your house down with you in it And you know what they're gonna say you know what they're gonna do You know what they're gonna push You're trying to make up something now

They're just gonna come improv right in there and burn your house down burn your farm down And they're gonna announce on the news that they were fighting al qaeda But it's all about you are al qaeda You are the terrorist So that's his takeaway from This idea that uh the al qaeda may be trying to recruit westerners particularly white people Is that it's actually the globalists trying to make it so everybody suspects everybody else Thus we are all terrorists right and specifically so they can get the patriots

And when they wakeo them, uh if we want to use that as a verb Burn down their farms exactly then they can just say They were al qaeda We already established it with a new story about how al qaeda is trying to recruit white people exactly right This is so desperate. This is so sad This is him. It sounded like he just made it up on the spot with those long gaps Yeah, exactly indicate that he's uh his little gray cells There's uh, they're gonna burn something down burn something down. What do what do what do people burn down?

Farms farms. That's all I got I mean the farm should just be an indication that he's trying to speak to a specific community because he says Yeah, your homes your farms. Yeah, exactly Um, so who are your listeners alex in this next clip, uh, we get a little bit from fox news About this story, uh, and then alex again I think he thinks they're talking about him and that's very weird to me Because when I we'll get to it on the other end of this clip stop saying i'm in al qaeda

Most agency officers most, uh, uh officers from other liaison services don't blend into al qaeda So we're looking for people who we can fit into there as penetrations al qaeda on the other side of the fence They're doing the same thing. I mean, obviously if they could recruit a scandinavian That's the holy grail for them. They need people who can move around freely We just do their bidding and converted people who convert is um, sometimes are more militant than those who were born that way Correct. Well, yeah, you tend to go to prisons too to get there to get the recruits Right, you can argue the converts are always a little bit more zealous in terms of their religious fervor, but um The fox news with al qaeda been garbage the whole time right this we need to listen

We can map the changes in alex But fox news has been a pile of shit since it started pretty much consistently suck We need to listen to this because you need the context to see what alex is freaking out about because he didn't read those reports I don't have you but This what they're doing is just trying to extend the fear They're trying to make the fear bigger of muslims in general But but alex alex has a completely different take on it

Is that to go into a prison and try to recruit individuals that person's already tainted what they really need or they need people who haven't You know run afoul of law enforcement in the past All right, so in a sense and then it goes on and on that it is just like the fbi training manual say White male who walks his desk? A lot of times it says we're in management positions It says we're quiet we're keep to ourselves ourselves They're evil white males and they're al qaeda. They're everywhere ladies and gentlemen The guy pumping your gas al qaeda

That school teacher al qaeda In fact, uh, the fbi manual says that priest al qaeda It says the caucasian woman pushing the baby carriage al qaeda. That's a quote Al qaeda Everywhere, they're just they're everywhere take all my rights away government Take all my freedoms Put a bracelet around me with a tazer keep me safe everywhere Are that I'm guessing what he's talking about is fbi manuals that talk about the ascendancy of white terrorism

Yeah, and like uh, you know the ones that white people do what we've seen the results of ten years later Yeah, he's to me. I think what he's trying to do there is Invalidate any possibility of you calling white male domestic terrorism terrorism. Yes So he's he's trying to preemptively excuse so whenever your timothy mcvay does all of that stuff He's going to conflate the idea of them being terrorists with the government calling them al qaeda, right? So it's like no no no no these guys aren't terrorists. They're mentally ill or it's a false flag Yeah, because if they were terrorists, they would have joined al qaeda Well in the same way that the globalists are preparing

The ground for you to have your farm burned down and then they say that it was that they were fighting al qaeda in Alex's conception, right? They're doing this so someone like timothy mcvay could blow up the murrow building and then alex can say Uh, they just you know, it's all it's all a setup. Yeah, they're they're gonna call him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah It's uh it again like What we're finding I believe is pretty decent evidence That the excusing of white terrorism and things uh that encroach upon alex's white identity Uh, that's a very consistent thing. Oh, yeah, this is 10 years ago that he recorded this

Right, and it's a very essential piece of his world philosophy. There's there may be nothing more I mean the guns might even be secondary to white mailman whiteness. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's very weird It's not that weird makes total sense. Yeah, but a lot of those guys have it Have it really like I mean, I would say probably as a terrorist force white people are historically strong the

They're the front runners. I would say competent. I would say I would say white people have really been doing some terrorism for a long time Well, when I hear uh like a report that says that al qaeda is looking for people who can blend in I hear that and I don't take it personally. I think that makes sense. Yeah, exactly I would do that. That's probably what I would do if I were al qaeda. That's a smart idea. Yeah, exactly. You're not gonna You're not gonna get past customs as a Looking like you're an al qaeda like that's that's kind of the thing if you're a cartoon of a terrorist You're not going exactly not that everyone is but you know, of course you would look for people who can blend in that

That's a that's just that seems like a good strategy. Yeah, that's spy craft alex hears it and takes it very personally as a white person and that to me means He he is somebody who has said In in private I because I don't know if he said it on the show But he has said race trader a lot. I I would imagine I would imagine if not literally Yes, that idea in not so many words and it's it's I don't know if he's taking it personally so much as More on the lines of like to me what I can hear there is him being like

They're saying that all white people aren't on the same side. Yeah, which boggles which boggles his mind There's some of him. It's every white person is in it together There's some of that in there, but he would call it the west probably. Yeah, like that. Yeah some code Anyway, in this next clip, we get to deal with uh the fact that uh recently when this episode aired George W. Bush threw out the first pitch at the uh the christening of the washington nationals. Yes, uh stadium. Yeah and uh apparently They were playing the braves and the braves tried to get him to wear a braves jersey and he said he didn't want to be booed Uh and then alex's contention is that he was mercilessly booed anyway

Okay, he plays the audio later. It's a mix. It seems like he had that coming It's a I feel like he should have been mercilessly booed You can he plays the audio of it and alex claims that he's getting like booed and they just piped in some applause Oh, they sweetened it. You you can tell that it's just a mixed reaction. Yeah, it's a strongly mixed reaction They uh, mitch headberged the sound right there's a lot there are booze for sure But there are also people who are clearly applauding like it's just a mixed reaction Which is what you would expect at a fucking baseball stadium, especially in dc. Yeah with the president there So that's a different thing. Uh, this is him with the shitty shitty shitty president there

Yes, this is uh, and this is right before the massive Collapse of 2008 So people weren't even really on uh on the boo the fuck out of g-dubs yet not quite yet Um, but he talks a little bit about that and then he says something That's really ironic in hindsight considering what he says about how Trump is uh going to save america. Trump is basically america's last stand. He's a bulwark Against these globalists and what have you? It's it's just very ironic 10 years later

I was reading the ap headline here and it says that the washington braves tried to get him to wear A brave jacket and he said, oh no, they like booming braves That's a quote and then he went out wearing a nationals jacket and they boo him couldn't be hilarious if you were an expose jacket An announcer just kisses up and just says, oh, that's the best throw by any president ever. He's god Didn't say that We ought to dig up that fox news when we hear the bully and they just fade it down and then fade up cheering and they go They love him It's like in marshal law. I have that clip from his second inauguration

Where they're saying cheer for him. Let him know that you love america Do you see the propaganda on that it's saying bush is america you love america, don't you? Cheer for him as hundreds of thousands booed and screamed and spit But the national news cut back to wide shot and said they love him. I have that marshal law It's like something out of a dystopic science fiction movie made 50 years ago Where the emperor is driving through and everyone's booing and then and then the announcers going they

love him Now pretty sure they made a lot of those in 2000 and well every time from the 1950s Now consider yes on the inauguration parade Where you have all those shots of empty bleachers With the cavalcade going down the road And alex jones screaming the people love him You get a complete mirror consider the upcoming military parade In which case alex will of course say look

Look at how everybody loves the president. Who is america our glorious leader our glorious leader It's fascinating. You know what i'm convinced of actually i'm gonna make a prediction here as we're in the past Uh-huh. Um, I think that are you gonna make a prediction about the past no about the future Okay, um, I think that what's going to happen is because we keep having these things happen where Trump says he's a globalist and alex is like he didn't mean it Trump says I like taking the guns first and then due process later alex is like I think it's a machiavellian move Yeah, whatever and he keeps saying like I'll turn on him I'll turn on him harder than anybody all this stuff right

I think eventually it's going to become clear that everyone but alex has been right the whole time And eventually alex will catch up and something will happen that'll be too much for him to handle And he'll be like I want to I want to go against him And it'll be like the child who thinks that they know what to do and they make a huge mess And then the adults have to be like don't help Don't help you're making it worse when the kid's trying to clean up and making more of a mess alex jones is the embodiment of that child who made the mess Thinks they can help clean up but can't and we just have to be like shut the fuck up stay on your state go over there

Yeah, you're in time out. That's a great analysis and he won't listen to that and it'll just be No, he's going to probably go to prison. Yeah, but we can only hope. Yeah I don't know. That's so confusing to me. I don't I don't know how that Hey, I mean prison or the destitute Uh getting sued out of uh, oh Homeless alex would be a fun alex to listen to yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, he starts up a podcast I mean it clearly we're living evidence that it doesn't cost much He could do it even if he was broke. Yeah, that'd be great. Hey, you have to get some studio equipment

Go back to your roots alex So speaking of alex's roots in this next clip. He rips off someone's intellectual property Hear these little sandal wearing uh, take all the guns. I love government. Oh my and bier clinton I'm I'm I'm bad wedding right now. I love you Just just just red diaper doper babies Red diaper doper babies that is specifically a michael savage catchphrase Oh Michael savage screams that all these leftists are red diaper doper babies. I don't know the children of communists

I don't I don't like that. I don't think that makes sense Eh, it makes sense. It's got a good little it's got a good little rhythm to it children of communists who smoke a lot of weed red diaper doper babies It's fun. Anyway, it was it's a bit. It's very much a savage. I'm a hard out It that that term may exist previous to him But in terms of like radio personalities and media folk uh, savages that's that's a fucking savagesm Right and a caller called in and asked about michael savage and alex was very wishy washy on whether he supports him at this point But he clearly listens to him. So he's ripping off his phrases

I would watch a show called red diaper doper babies. That wasn't the name of the show. It's the savage nation No, i'm just saying if there was a show named red diaper doper babies like a cartoon Yeah, oh, I would watch that like shorties watching shorties more like muppet babies I would watch it. I would watch muppet babies, but babies your dreams can't come true Or rug rats if rug rats was actually communist propaganda. That would be fantastic back to muppet babies The two legs that you always see. Yes, it's Stalin He was actually very short. Yeah You would see most of his uh mustache in the frame not compared to the muppet babies. They're tiny

How do you know they're babies? Stalin was a short man. So at this point, alex jones has a gaston By the name of twyla brace And they talk alex wants to talk all about how the government's stealing your blood twyla brace Yes, where do these people come from? I will tell you exactly where she comes from in a minute But alex their interview is uh all about how the government's stealing your blood And this is something we covered on uh show in the past. So I don't want to labor it too much Yes, I recall that narrative. But the reason is that there are diseases that need to be screened for and also

they uh You know, it comes down to Another one of these like you're not that crazy kind of arguments about privacy But uh in almost every state they uh take any identifiers off the blood. Yeah, it's not like they're uh coding all of your genomes into everything Trying to create a uh database out of it At well not not a personal uh human database out of it so much as a Database of dna and the like wherein you can find trends correlations between uh genetic markers for things exactly

And the more data you have the more accurate you can be about you're able to uh save people from lifetimes of pain Right and suffering uh generally speaking there are countless success stories from this and uh Anyway, the thing that I find interesting about it is that throughout this interview They're very reluctant to say the name of the organization that twyla brace works for Uh miss brace, uh, why don't you in a nutshell tell us about yourself and your credentials and how you got into this And what your organization does and then we'll get into the blood Sure. Thanks so much

Um, we'll get into the our organization has been around for about 12 years and We both refer to it as your organization That the newborn or they that privacy really allows you to give control So anyway, she just says some boring shit Um, like like I said, we've gone over this entire narrative and nothing that she says Uh, when I was listening was like, oh, that's new. It's all the same shit. Yeah, this is actually almost Undoubtedly where he gets this narrative from this interview. What organization? Well, I don't know. Let's see if they say I mean overall your organization goes with a lot of privacy issues, but give us

The skinny on what they're doing with the blood Alex wants to talk about the blood They won't they don't say the name of the organization until a little like a ways down the road When it's time to like make plugs and what have you she's that because they assume Everybody knows who she's who she works for no I don't know You think it's you think it's purposeful that they're avoiding the no I don't necessarily think that that would be paranoid of me to think

I think alex might have skimmed her bio or something like that or has forgotten the name or something like that Occam's razor tells me it's bad broadcasting. Yeah, that sounds reasonable But it's weird that she doesn't say upfront until much later in the interview And the organization the organization that she works for is called the citizens council for health care Okay, good because if it was the NAACP, I would have been very shocked. No. No, no That is not what she works for. She is a tea partier from minnesota, uh, which is already out interesting already All I need to know to say no, no, thank you Interesting to note that another tea party or from minnesota goes by the name of ted anderson and runs the genesis communications network

Uh, probably probably a coincidence. I have nothing to tie the two of them together, but it's interesting Uh, but the citizens council for health care. I should tell you is a member of the state policy network They are a member organization of the spn Which has received significant money from the coke brothers as well as from the claude our lamb foundation and the charles g Coke foundation, which are both coke family foundations God, they're so evil and they're everywhere. It's gets they're just fucking everywhere. There's more. There's more to this story The donations, uh, that uh, the cokes have made through these foundations are generally not disclosed But in 2007 it was accidentally revealed that david coke gave 125 thousand dollars to pioneer institute for public policy research

A massachusetts-based spn think tank further. It was accidentally revealed in 2010 that coke industries gave 159 834 dollars directly to the texas public policy foundation and an additional 69 788 dollars and 61 cents from the claude our lamb foundation Again, another family. Yes a foundation of the cokes extrapolating weirdly specific amount Yeah, I don't know what I don't know how to explain that Extrapolating this out. It's mark of the beast probably It's pretty safe to assume that they funneled a ton more money into these spn outlets directly insane amounts of money in secret Yes, also the spn the state policy network received 10 million dollars between 2007 and 2010 from an organization called

There's two organizations the donors trust and the donors capital fund These are what are called donor advised funds Which means that the fund creates separate accounts for individual donors and the donors then recommend Dispersed from the accounts to different nonprofits It cloaks the identity of the original mystery donors because the funds are then distributed in the name of Donors trust or donors capital fund a coke family foundation called knowledge and progress fund gave 4.5 million dollars to donors trust between 2007 and 2010 but because of the setup it's impossible to know where those funds went Cloaked money from these two funds were funneled to at least 51 spn member organizations between 2007 and 2011 according to the center for public integrity

twyla is also Of course twyla brace is also a member of the heartland found of course Which is an organization specifically created to spread doubt about causes that would involve government regulations Such as climate change health care tobacco those sorts of things the heartland institute is basically an organization That's just there to sow doubts heartland also has received significant donations from the coax And their foundations for instance the donors trust and donors capital fund gave 13.5 million dollars to heartland between 2007 and 2011 the the

The lamb foundation we mentioned earlier contributed at least 4.8 million dollars to heritage between 1998 and 2012 Further twyla brace is a writer for cns news Mostly writing anti-obamacare articles This is a conservative news site that is owned by the media research center One of the media research centers main funders is exxon mobile Also the richard and helen devos foundation the parents of betsy devos and eric prince founder of black water May they be burnt in hell and the lynd and harry bradley foundation another major conservative

It's up there with like the melonscape Foundation they're way up there in terms of like these weirdo dark money things also Twyla brace was a tea party activist Where do they fucking get these people real early? She was a tea party activist and campaigned aggressively against obamacare going so far as to distribute flyers telling people not to enroll And that if you don't enroll then it'll never happen. We can all fight this by just not doing it Uh, the coke brothers americans for prosperity spent millions of dollars fighting obamacare

The tea party was almost entirely bankrolled by the coax through the americans for prosperity and freedom works foundation Which used to be the same organization that was called the citizens for a sound economy which was started by the coke brothers in 1984 so All roads lead back to the coax these fucking monsters This is something that we're going to experience very frequently with alex jones's guests back in 2008 everywhere Do they I don't know like I want to Meet these guys And I want to just find out what it is. They actually believe

Because it I I don't know if they believe in any of this bullshit or if they're just like such sociopathic monsters that they're like we will give any amount of money To completely dismantle anything that isn't us. Well, it seems like they're just into deregulation Super heavily right because they're in their their main business as they were coming to prominence was in oil and it seems like well continuing that Involves government deregulation or making higher profits what I see from all of their stuff though is like

Secondarily, I think it's business decisions. You know, they just want Any possibility of you are you gonna pitch that they're jokers? No, no just sowing chaos. No, no No, I think it's I think it's much more insidious than that in that they are Less interested in the business and more interested in just like this vague concept of impunity. Mm-hmm like I want to be able to do Control and whatever I want whenever. Yeah, like it is a complete Desire for autonomy in all things No one can say I can't do this. I think that is their only ideology to me

I think that's an interesting thought and I think as we go along we'll learn more and as we go along there'll be more opportunities for us to get into What what indications we can find here and there right but at this point we can say it's uh suspicious That uh when listing americans who were deeply involved with the nazis somehow fred coke is not involved in that list And habitually isn't for alex jones, right? It's interesting that alex jones And this isn't the only example of it. This is going to come up multiple multiple times Alex jones has a guest on who's essentially just works for a uh, coke front group think tank

So I think we're going to see a ton of that. I think we're going to see a lot of these people that are People who are on alex's show who are just funneled from coke think tanks to spread misinformation So that's exciting We're never gonna we're never gonna win but at this point they're too big and too evil at this point I don't think that there is a strong Uh parallel or anything like that. Yeah, there's just like little kernels of stuff, right? Just like there's a a there seems to be a lot of uh, coke connections a lot of So I don't know but but see that's another thing that to me bolsters my argument is the the

The most common idea behind this like dark money is They know that they're doing something Evil right and they are hiding it because That's how you get away with doing evil shit Exactly, but to me for them. It's again this idea of like because i'm anonymous. I can do whatever I want Because I we're hiding behind because we're hiding behind different organizations million different things I'm doing whatever the fuck it is. I want and these people are are carrying it out for me I I and I don't have to put my name on it. I I agree with because I'm a giant fucking coward

I agree with you that that does seem to be the modus operandi But I I I wanted I want to be clear just because we're you know, we're we're being pretty speculative and uh, I don't in the same way that I don't think that that uh commercial about uh, Israeli tourism proves that alex jones works for israel right. It's just weird right right right in the same vein the fact that alex is You know on on some coke tips right? I don't think that that necessarily means he works for them It's just weird right and again, that's not even a one-to-one comparison between those two examples. I'm making I'm just saying this doesn't prove anything. It's just

It's it got my ears up right right anyway in this next clip We learned that twyla is a very paranoid person and probably belongs on info wars Well, this whole program is not just about the screening of the child. It's not just about the infant and the parent It's about cost containment and prevention And I think you know, it's good for your listeners to let that roll around in their brains a little bit because cost containment and prevention Um likely means that we don't want any child That's not perfect and we worry about the day where the genes of a child Are fished into to find the imperfections

And it will be part of whether or not you can be married whether or not you should have children So gattaca. Well, they're just describing gattaca. That's they all saw gattaca and they were like well This is obviously what they're trying to do. That's despite the Absurdity of that plan, but that's one way to look at it another way. I might look at it is the cost prevention Is indicative of hey if we catch this disease Free birth or very early. We're able to treat it. There are therapies that we can use But if we don't you will have a handicapped person for the rest of their life

Right that will require extensive medical bills or like with the homeless population If they have homes, they're far more likely to wind up in a hospital emergency room Bringing up shit tons of bills that you eventually wind up having to pay for There are there are there are ways to preventative measures are more effective Yes, always and there there are ways to interpret cost prevention or something like that in a really Evil eugenicsy way right and there's a way to look at it in the way that people mean it Right and they're not the same. No, so anyway, it just seems to me like she's

She's perfect. She's a good fit for this show. Yeah, but also boring But that's on par for alex jones in 2008. This show is pretty boring at this point. Yeah, it's I'm not enjoying listening to it He doesn't scream that much. Oh, well, he was just more nonchalantly Sarcastic in most of the calls. Yeah, so far. Anyway, we got one more clip from twyla here and uh Alex jones pulls out his favorite subsection to try and impress her. Yes Have you looked at us code title 50 chapter 32 subsection 1,520 a paragraph b Yes

I can tell that I have missed something in all my research. Sure have so is alex. Uh, he's missed a paragraph c Again, we've discussed this over and over again That's the yes, that's the subsection that he uses to justify his belief in chemtrails, right? But paragraph c which is right after paragraph b that he cites Uh, it says that informed consent is required for right all of those things. Yeah, and uh, so it doesn't Make a justification for this blood stuff. It's not a justification for chemtrails stuff. It's nothing He's just talking shit because he memorized something that he can say fast and confuse people. It's it's very much the The the balance between the two like like I see two big things of uh, two buckets

Of how much water you're putting into each one is how much more important you think one is than the other and to him the The paragraph b has all of the water in it. Yeah, and the uh, you know the requires informed Consent to him that's just like oh, they have to put that in there and then they'll manufacture your informed consent later on Like that's that's always his idea is so stupid They have any kind of if you have any kind of thing and then you have a regulation on it The regulation is a lie, right? Even if it's like like just as such a not fun game Just as the regulations on oil companies for climate change and all that stuff are manufactured to destroy

Uh, the very thing that they're supposed to protect. So is the regulation on the evil shit that they say Really something that's there for them to destroy whatever it is that they're stupid. Yeah, it's not it's stupid Any qualifying clause is too complicated for alex ignore it. Yeah, it's probably there. It's a ball shape. Exactly So anyway, um earlier we heard that alex jones is advertising for tourism to israel, which is fun. Yes. What else is he advertising? spyville.com is your choice for everything spy related stealth cameras cleverly disguised as items commonly found around the home night vision cameras covert phone and voice recorders powerful binoculars security systems and more interesting spyville Interesting spyville for someone who's very concerned about the surveillance state the surveillance state is everywhere join the surveillance state at spyville

Get your own cottage industry of spying going very weird for who's watching the watchman spyville Very very weird. I heard that commercial. I'm like This is all this is off and on brand simultaneously. I don't know what to think about this But then he came back from commercial jordan and listen to this shit. Yeah, and then then before I forget I keep forgetting to do this There is going to be the biggest announcement this radio show has ever made The biggest announcement in the history of this particular manifestation of my radio show It's been here to be big I don't know I've been doing this show since 98 so 10 years the syndicated show

Oh, it's gotta be the biggest announcement in the history of this radio show Coming up next monday You piece of shit You will see a huge announcement here very very important announcement So important coming up. Oh next monday This is the julienne assange of interviews right now. So now consider or uh or teases at this point Alex jones had announced on his show that the government did 9 11 Yes, he has announced on his show that he predicted that the government would do 9 11, right?

He is announced proven. He is an oath of those proven true earlier Around let's say new year's eve 2000. He announced that missiles were being launched And there's a concentration camp at the austin airport both of which happen huge announcements What the fuck is this announcement? It's got to be the biggest announcement in the history of info Would you care to speculate on what it might be? uh Boy because the after it's tough to raise it up from 9 11 That's a big one. Yeah, uh

The government did pearl harbour. Um, uh, they Never dropped atomic bombs on naga sake interesting. Yeah, um, that was a false flag. That was a false flag Japan did it to themselves. I knew it Stalin actually was just a cool bro. And uh, you know what there was a famine no big deal So, um, what else we got? What else we got burlesconi virgin. Oh boy. Yeah, that's the biggest announcement in the history of info He's actually a eunuch. Yep. He's overcompensating. Yep Um, so I listened to this and I was like, there's no fucking way we can do this episode and I can allow that teaser to go on Our show alex can play that game

Yeah, no, we can't do that. So I skipped a week into the future Of course to find out what the moment you heard that teaser. You're like, well, fuck the rest of this I gotta hear this shit. So the big announcement Yes, is that alex is adding the fourth hour So In all right in 2008 he adds the fourth hour Which at some point fails and then we've heard the reintroduction of it in 2015. Yeah, so now we've heard him announce the fourth hour twice But we'll get to that once we get to April 7th because that's coming up in the future

But spoiler alert, he's bringing back the fourth hour with authority Um, so that's great. Uh, this next clip is a mic down moment. Okay, uh, because we get another endearing alex jones loves country music moment Wonderful We say We're back live ladies and gentlemen It's still going well, it's hard to cut off junior, isn't it? Also right there, that's where alex jones gets his skin a buck run a trot line Oh, okay, you know, he's talks about what it means to be country. I did not know that from this song. I did not know that

A black hole chained the action No, he said they can't oh, okay We've his narratives in here to this song I thought he was throwing that in country boys can survive a black hole They can they can survive a lot but not one thing one thing the country boys Look old old stereotype of country boys. Mm-hmm always survive black holes. There's this is this isn't done And neither can the friend in new york city We've called junior hillbilly

I'd like to spit some beach nut and that dude's eye and shoot him with my old 45 All right, that's enough torture torture of the audience. I'd rather just have fun and play music here on the show You'd have your hard rock music with your country and your classical All mixed in with Okay Now here's gary hard Okay

Now here's this asshole here's gary hard this fucking That's that's it right there. I mean that's a hundred percent. That's beautiful. He's he even says what we keep saying I wish I could just play music You'd have a great selection of music here Play some jams I would I think the world would be better if you would have just gotten on a different format Imagine if he was like a morning like a uh an evening dj

And he was just playing like the old country hits and on the side He just threw in some bat shit stuff, you know with like it's it's 45 minutes a non-stop hits With some stuff in and then his inch is that his like intercut is that just like oh, that was a that was a great song from Waylon Jennings the government dead 9 11 next up. We've got some uh wonderful wonderful willy nelson I think you guys are gonna love this after the break. I think you're not in government 9 11 You're not gonna get 45 minutes uninterrupted and you shouldn't no I think a great radio format would be him listening to music and screaming over it

Getting real into it like a joe franklin situation. He's having a great time joe frank. Yeah, I think it would be amazing I would really enjoy that and then yeah, he can throw like I met a woman at a bar He could have revolutionized dj quite frankly like at a time when you needed djs Like in the 90s when he was coming to prominence as a talk radio guy Is right when clear channel was taking over all these like it was consolidating What you're saying is that alex jones for a short moment there could have been the next cool herk That's what he's never gonna play urban music But he could have been a wolf. It could revolutionize dj though. It could have been a wolf man alex

Like he could have done like with the like obviously We can't take away from him his creativity the bullshit that he spins. Oh, wow Yeah, if he could direct that creativity towards a more benign format You could get something fascinating. Yeah, if he was just an anti-semit in private Yeah, like an anti-semite in private where he doesn't really have a reach. The wolf man jack probably hated jews. Of course We have no idea who didn't. Yeah, they was the 70s. Yeah. Oh man All the game show hosts bob barker. Come on. Yep. Hated him. Um, who who was the center square? Do you remember shadow steven? No, no

Shadow the center square in the whoopee goldberg was the new one. Oh, not the new one Uh, uh, the the uh, the effeminate, uh, confirmed bachelors No, god damn it. What's his name now? I'm fucked richard. It's over now. He wasn't ever in the center square I'm just thinking of people from the match game now God damn it. Are you sure it wasn't charles nelson-reilly? No, it wasn't charles nelson-reilly. Okay. God damn it Ah, that's gonna kill me. I'm gonna look it up. Anyway, I have to look at alex jones Had a better life in front of him any blue. Oh, by not just becoming a dj He had a beautiful. Anyway, beautiful possibility. Alex jones is done with like sort of content on this episode

But this next clip is really interesting considering that alex in present day has said that he had sex with 200 women by the time he was 16 or something like that. Yep. Yep. Doesn't matter all of them Hear this clip in uh context with that I mean, I remember being like 18 years old and looking at women and lusting after them and like a Unhappily wishing I could have them all You know that feeling that anxiousness Man, she's gorgeous. Man. I just want her

To Now I've developed to the point where I don't even desire Women, I mean I do but but that's a smaller part of my psyche. I just admire their beauty I I share in it and it's not even sexual. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like I've grown Pull up out. I realize that very few people. I don't even think ever even get to this level And it's so

much fun It's so great to be able to appreciate beauty all around you and see it everywhere But I'm already digressing and I said I'd get into Things the elite are doing it in the whole planet, but I need to get into this news first here What the fuck I appreciate women on a different level than any of you can ever understand I was going to get into what the elites are doing to destroy the world Of course, but I've got to get in guys. I share women's beauty. I don't experience it or just appreciate it

I share in it and delight in it. I think what he's trying to say is I have low tea I don't know what he's trying to say. I think that was him putting up the bat signal for someone to create super male vitality Because what he's expressing there, I mean, I think I think uh, I don't uh, I don't fuck as much anymore And I I think it's uh, I think there's a I think there's just not as interested Maybe there's not enough variety married life is diff difficult diff Now it could be cool her now it could be hold I think that there is uh, I think there's a way that a smart person could express similar things to what he's saying And that there is a when you're younger you have a

Like just all encompassing lost for women and as you get older you start to settle into an understanding of people's humanity A little bit more than you had when puberty was going on I think that there's possibly Something in there, but this is completely contradictory to his story of having sex with 250 women before he was 16 Well, I mean that was before he could share in their beauty. Well No, it just doesn't work. No, of course it doesn't fucking work if that none of what he's saying works No, what he just said was the ravings of a fucking serial killer. Totally. That's what somebody writes in their diary Before they strangle and rape women. He's a fucking that's an insane person. No, no, no, no, no, no

I I I don't I I I don't think it's as crazy. I mean it is coming from alex Yeah, but it's not like the actual content of it. I don't think is that crazy now That's a being able to appreciate women's beauty in a non-lost full way Is I think what he's trying to express and is it though? I again i'm give i'm Reading context clues and I think that's what he's trying to say Look, look, nobody nobody on this planet right now. I feel Is more in tune with the way alex's brain works probably so i'm gonna lean on you for this although

2008 alex is a different alex and i'm still getting accustomed to it Right. I still have to get my sea legs. Yeah as it were about this crazy ding dong Because what I hear is there's somebody in his trunk right now No, no, no, no, no No, we're the more also by the way This is a great time to cut in and say the person I was thinking of was paul lind Oh paul lind center square. Come on man. I thought shadow stevens was a center square for longer. Anyway, it doesn't matter I i'm most interested in the fact that this is funny

In conflict with alex's claims of uh First of all being way too attractive when he was younger right and having sex with 250 women by all of those 16 Because all of them because he wouldn't express things that way if it was also like He would be like when I was 18. I felt this This this unrequited lost towards women thinking I wishing I could be with them, but I couldn't he would be like Well, that's because he had already been with them. No, it's not see No, none of this fucking makes sense. I'm confused. Yes. I don't know what he's trying to it like that is though

like I see psychopath behavior in that in so far as It is always a manipulation of his past to support his present narrative, right? So whenever he wants to be like, I'm the manly man. You can respect me because I fuck Then he's like I I already had sex with everybody so much everybody that you've ever wanted to have sex with I already did don't bother. I got it already, but when But when the narrative is You know, I am I actually don't even know why he's saying that is there a reason no There's no reason for that, right? There's no prior context

Oh, that makes sense. He had a fight with his wife or something and he just needed to get that off his chest Like what what was fucking going on in his mind? Well, the intro to that what came right before it was his talking he was talking about Like having money isn't bad, but having money be all you care about Is bad and so he equates that then towards the lust for women Right, but it still doesn't help. It doesn't like me telling you that doesn't give this proper context No, it's like what did he did? He talked to the vicar recently like what happened here And between that talking about money and him getting into the clip that we just played long pause where he's clearly thinking

But yeah, so I don't know man. I again I like he does he does have sometimes that feel of like all of a sudden all of his previous Lies and and bullshit just like catch up to him for a moment And he's just this very open and honest person telling Way more than he wants to well I imagine once it all collapses He'll be one of the most interesting people in the world to talk to because I think he has a perspective that no one can possibly imagine Right like the idea of lying for 20 years

Like even if he actually believes that the globalists exist He has to know that he's lying about a lot of other stuff in order to reinforce that narrative Yeah, absolutely probably has convinced himself and has the cognitive dissonance involved to be like well I'm lying about this tiny detail, but it's only because it reinforces the bigger thing that I believe is true Right, right, and so that's fine anything in service to the larger truth small A lie a lie to solve the larger problem is fine And I think once that's just good tactics and I think once it all collapses I think he probably will have a

Incredibly interesting perspective that I will go to prison and interview him For my forthcoming novel Where he and I try the two dans Exactly Or I try and make peace with my uh, uh, evil twin Yes, anyway in this next clip, uh, this is our last clip, uh, Alex Jones Like you said earlier, this is before the bank's entirely collapse Yeah, and what have you before we have the like full-on financial crisis, uh, that comes in the end of 2008

Which hey guys You thought you were excited for avengers 3 Let me tell you something the sequel to the 2008 financial crash is going to be Huge and hearing alex black panther just made over a billion dollars. Yeah, we're gonna lose over 2 trillion Well, but it's gonna be incredible and I'm super excited to hear alex's rhetoric as that's happening To right because it's going to coincide with the rise of the no, this is actually the Yeah, this is this is obama's fault. He's running for president. That's why it all fell apart So but he in this last clip is talking about, uh, uh, the banks and what have you but then he gets weird

And they're getting total notchy like power over all the other banking and lending and brokerage and stock institutions That was fucking globalist. See now you're just gonna have a few people with it all And then there'll be another crisis And then they'll offer the next solution as the tourniquet It's kind of like one of those traps the more you struggle the tighter it gets and they're just always there Going i'm your friend never mind my hands around your neck. There you go. There you go. Yes I love you so much Don't don't struggle. I'm just just helping your neck. Just wiping some sand off

Don't you mind that? No, you're passing out now. I'm your friend I'm the governor So they like like he's not Like this alex I feel like I could go out to a bar with and have a conversation with and we would kind of alex Yes, yes, because that like like with the coke brothers. They have the center for freedom progress Which is like americans for whatever Who gives it it's it's all this shit that's built under this name of like we're helping you And what they're doing is fucking you right, you know, like

There's a there's a point there that he he gets it But if I could just like twist the reason for it Just like no, no, no, no, it's not globalist. It's these guys and they are doing. No, no, you're right That's what they're doing. You're just wrong about how and who and why they're doing it But he's too dumb and entrenched to listen to you because but that's why I would go back in time to 2008 I feel like we would have more common ground No, because again, this is an example of the broken clock being right twice a day Right, you have like we know because of history that the financial crash is coming

Right and alex jones is doing what he does all the time because he works for a guy who sells gold Which is warning people and saying everything is going to fucking collapse right So i'm it's not like this is the only time he said it and he's fucking right that this is what's coming right It's just it it's just what he does all the time and it just so happens It just so happened. Yeah, uh a bit after this it did happen And if you're playing the like everything is going to crash eventually If you just say it over and over and over again, it's coming when it does crash You're gonna seem like a g that's that's what's so weird about now

Where he's saying that everything is going to turn around and it's going to crash Like well, he is saying it's gonna crash He's saying it's gonna crash, but it's gonna because of the globalist right right right trump prosperity movement Right, he does have us coming and going on that one. Yeah. Yeah. He has it both ways Yeah, the only reason that I wanted to keep that clip in uh, not it is not because I think he Said sooth about the banks or anything like that But because it's a good demonstration that even 10 years ago. Alex was still really creepy He's still really gross. He is still really getting deep into those weird fantasies where he's playing it out like

I'm gonna kill you and that stuff But you can even know because he has somebody in his trunk Hold on but even back in 2008 though. He's not as severe about it like the the current version of it is much more animated and much Scarier. Yeah, this is just sort of like he's not even committing. Yeah, he would have gone Like if he had done that speech now, he would go into like Details of how they're taking you through the back door Right and going through the and now you're being torn down to the basement and they have a gurney down there Why wouldn't they have a gurney down there? They're the globalists they keep gurneys in their basements

And in the basement and gurney they're gonna have a gurney on top of that gurney and they got your kid's blood Oh, well, yeah And they're gonna and they're gonna like pour it on you in order to gain your blood's adrenochrome They're gonna make you get high on your children's blood Because that'll make you have even more adrenochrome in your blood. Exactly. Uh, yeah, that's that sort of shit Yeah, so I mean look we've come to the end of the first episode of the 2008 investigation and we've learned a lot Look, I don't think we have I'll be perfectly honest with you like I I have mentioned this along the way a little bit and I think it bears repeating

2008 alex is much more boring than current day. Yeah, uh, mostly because he wasn't uh, Constantly in a state of being pressed against a wall and being a a caged animal Right, like he is a wolverine who's like has the back to the wall. He at this point He is fucking screaming about anything and everything in 2018 and in 2008 he had a much easier row to hoe He has uh, you know, he's got money coming in from the israeli tourism board People are donating because of his dumb, uh, documentaries that we've thoroughly debunked. Yep Uh, and he has a comfortable existence. Like I said, he's still married to kelly at this point Uh info wars is a small operation with only a few employees. He doesn't have a ton of overhead

But it's an independent business that he runs. Yeah, he doesn't have to worry about a boss He doesn't have to worry about there's there's so much going on about his life that he gets to sit around and listen to country boys Can't survive right and have a great time with it and then get into whatever he wants to get into Whatever narratives he wants to spin and he's he's he's living it, right? but I you know, you do hear some of that like I'm sure he feels like he's getting complacent. He's not Uh, fulfilling his ambition in the same way. Like with the way that for bigger things

Like the way that he feels uh, the the way that he takes those calls of just like Yeah, sure. There's a fucking helicopter He does that to stuff Submit no, he yeah, that's not fair fair enough. He's dismissive of his fucking collars all the time. Okay fair fair Because they're boring and clearly lying to it. Well, yeah, even he knows that. Yeah, that's a good point but The only thing that's important about that fucking collar is not his uh, there's Snipe dismissal. Yeah, it's that he is irresponsible and like not helping that right that guy needs help

that's yeah, that's uh What's going on with that or he needs friends So I I think that uh, you know in in time the uh, there's no helicopter find a singles group Right, you need a meetup. Yeah go bowling Uh, listen, uh, tinder doesn't exist yet, but one day it will Okay, cupid Uh, chemtrials, I think e harmony was around back then It was a chemtrail blogger. Wouldn't he bring up the subsection with him? That's a good question. Interesting

Anyway, I don't know. I think I think in time we're going to discover things that are uh, much more concrete but at this point we have uh, the beginnings of some indications, uh, of I don't know what I don't know what's gonna get weird. Well, you know, you know what Here's the here's the thing With the 2015 investigation, we had a concrete thing in mind and that was Trump What about trump? We started on the day that trump announced his candidacy. Yeah and saw what happened from there Here this is so much more open-ended

because The tea party doesn't quite exist yet. The primaries aren't hot yet. We're laying a lot of context We're getting indications of who he was back then and what the lay of the land is and as that's the case I think this investigation is going to be Uh, we're we don't I don't know what we're gonna find I don't know we're gonna indict a lot of people who might not be uh, the the main targets here like with with alex Back back in this time what i'm hearing is we're gonna get all of these kind of different waypoints starting to generate

Yeah, uh, and and so what we're gonna find well, we've already found on this episode The government is trying to take your children's blood. Of course clearly comes from twyla brace who works for a coke funded But that's what i'm saying. That's what we're going to find here is all of these Sources and and how it is that they are affecting his worldview now. Yeah, that's what I that's what i'm really interested in This investigation is like how is it that this guy who is uh, just like again Right in the wrong way

A few times right. How does this guy turn into the weird fucking monster? That is just uh an unhinged As as you said rabid wolverine. Yeah, like where does this guy come from? Where do we go from? Sinking fucking the highway men right to and the country boys exactly. Oh, yeah, and wishing he was doing fucking radio Yeah, it's it's it's weird. I think I think those are the two things that we're going to find My intention in starting this is figuring out stuff about the tea party And the rise of the tea party through the lens of alex and I think And ultimately it's gonna lead back to the coke brothers probably

But I think the accidental thing that we're going to find is the beginnings of all of his narratives Like you mentioned and it's that's probably much more valuable. Yeah, so uh This is going to be probably the worst time of my life. Uh, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be long It's gonna be boring for you and everybody else is gonna have a good time You know try and make the best out of it and make a show out of it But uh, thank you all so much for supporting us And all if you want to find us you could find us at our website Knowledgefight.com just renewed for another year

We got it. That's another year. That's very uh, confident of you. It's cheaper that way. Um, and uh What you can follow us on twitter at knowledge underscore fight correct. We're also on facebook Uh, you can go to itunes. You can go to the libson. You can find our podcast on places You can't basically those two those two places Um beyond that. I don't know man It's all I mean, I think the obvious way to start Um, as far as the evil that we're gonna deal with that's gonna keep popping up again

So we might as well get it out now. Um, uh, go fuck yourself the coke brothers. What about daddy? Fred Oh, yeah, he can go fuck himself too. Amen Andy and chanzos you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you You