Knowledge Fight - #141: March 20-22, 2018

Episode Date: March 23, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the events of the last week on The Alex Jones Show. The topics covered range from Laura Loomer lying about her own reporting, Alex being dumb about the McCarthyism, and Alex saying something so racist it is baffling.

Andy and Chanzos you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I am Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages get tangled up in some dumb-ass chords and talk About Alex Jones. That is right Dan. Dan if you were trying to sell this show, right? And you were not talking to a tangled chord enthusiast. Okay What would you describe it as you should get into tangled chords. Okay, that's a great idea You're not I would be like hold on. Hold on. What it what even is a podcast, but I do know tangled chords Yeah, what world do we live in where someone anybody is not a tangled chord enthusiast?

Sir, sir. Have you heard about Christmas lights? Indeed I would say that this show is about Alex Jones, and I know a lot about him I don't know anything about Alex Jones and that twist makes things fun. Absolutely. So it's a twist like a tangled chord indeed So Jordan, I told you I didn't tell you I told the Internet You didn't tell me anything I told the Internet earlier that this will be our last live episode for a while For a week. I thought you were leaving for a month Where even could I go for a month? I told you before the show I got confused because you're doing a month at Zany's In the future. Yes. Yeah in May and you're going on vacation now and I combined the two into a month

I Don't listen well. I it is it is only because of Zany's month coming up that I'll be able to afford the vacation I'm going on now right, so there's no way that a month anywhere is in my in my future So the point is also because my girlfriend is richer than me This is our last live episode for one or two live Possibly yes. Yeah, I'll get Kevin Hogan or a druff key to come sit in it'll be a delightful time So before we get going I'd like to give a shout out to something of that else that is delightful Oh, and that is a new donor

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You can go to our website knowledge fight calm click the support the show button and You know be a part of the team. We would appreciate it. I mean a lot absolutely So Jordan, I had this thought that I wanted to do like on our these we record these as a live stream on Thursdays And then our broadcast on Friday These yes week episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah one of the things I want to do last for the first time last week We figured out that we should do a wrap up exactly episode. So we did the week that was last time Yeah, that took us about three hours. That does happen. That was a disaster. So what I wasn't a bad Episode it was a disaster for my life. I

Was up until five or six in the morning editing. Oh, yeah, that's right I do remember that so I was kind of hoping to avoid something like that But I still wanted to do a week recap. Oh, so what I decided to do is do a top 10 things You missed this week on Alex Jones. Nope. I quit but I'm glad I'm going on vacation, but I fucked up Yeah, I'm Completely I wasn't keeping track of anything I just have an episode. You don't know. You don't know what 10 is. No unlike Kendrick. You are not on 10 yet No, sir, nor like god damn it

No, I can't remember his name. There's a pro wrestler His family's whole gimmick is the number 10. Oh, I am deeply ashamed I'm gonna get you in 20 seconds. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, so Jordan I'm gonna walk you through this week a little bit and Some of it is less interesting Than other things Some of some of it is very exciting and we're gonna start with Tuesday, March 20th. Okay We don't have any clips of this so you don't have to worry about it

But Alex Jones had an interview with a guy named Mark Meechin on the show sounds like a trustworthy man He's a guy from the United Kingdom who got in trouble with the law because he made a video of himself teaching his dog How to Zeke Heil? Oh, that's right. I heard about that from the internet and I immediately didn't care Didn't care so hard the dog was trained to Heil whenever he said Zeke Heil or gas the Jews Right. I think it's the second one that bothers me more. I think that's what bothered a lot of people Especially the Jewish organizations, right? So the the thing is he goes on Alex Jones a show and they try and cry all this First Amendment nonsense and Here's the thing first amendment doesn't exist in the UK

That's part of the American Constitution So that argument is flawed if that said in the 60s, he would have been on Johnny Carson so fast Come on. He always had an animal segment. That's true. That guy's gonna get up crazy animal tree Oh, yeah, Alex is a crazy animal Alex's argument. I wish I had this clip I now regret it because it's the craziest thing. He's like this guy is doing comedy. He's better than John Cleese I Mean now that's when we get into what period John Cleese are we talking about fair because if you come at faulty towers I'm gonna murder you Alex Jones. I shan't he also says that he's funnier than chaplain

Because chaplain did the great dictator bit And funnier than chaplain. I don't think that the great dictator was necessarily Straight-up comedy. I I'm pretty sure that was actually incisive satire if I recall correctly So I think chaplain was going hard at him. Yeah, so Alex is starting to use a lot of that nonsense it doesn't really work and So the other thing that marks defense of himself relies on is either I did this to annoy my girlfriend Because she doesn't like Nazis and so I sit back and I think what I think that there first of all This isn't a great relationship, and I think second right. You should definitely break up with him

I think secondly like Well, I don't like Nazis, but I am okay if my boyfriend teaches his dog How does she was he was teaching the dog this as a prank on the girlfriend to which I respond How is that ever going to pay off? Yeah, when are you going to just casually say gas the Jews? It's like when you walk in the door and the the you know the thing of water falls on your head It's just like that like she walks on the door, and he's like gas the Jews and the dog zig-hyles and she's like I Need to leave you now now you've turned this into but look that's abuse. That's abuse Not on the dog

Maybe on the dog. I don't know on the girlfriend. It's weird on humanity. It's a way I think it's just abuse. It's a waste of time certainly I what the point that I'm trying to make is if I trained my cat Let's say to see Kyle every time Seaman said gas the Jews right and you and I were sitting around and I was just waiting It would never happen. It would literally If we were waiting for it to accidentally for it for it to coincidentally come up like where we're doing We're doing this show and we're talking about Alex Jones's anti-semitism, and I just go Oh, that's that'd be like if he said gas the Jews and then just raises the pop

Yeah, that would be not a prank that would be the most terrifying moment of my life It would be more benign than this and I like wait hold on Dan Did you train your cat to do that or did you accidentally get a Nazi cat you train cats? Um, I train Nazis. Here's my other problem. Yes, Mark Meachan's defense of himself It's terrible and stupid. He's appearing from the UK, and there's someone else in the room and that guy's name is Tommy Robinson Yeah, so So I say a fuck you. Oh Tommy Robinson most of your defenses of not being a racist go flying out the window

Yeah, so Alex had another guest on his show that is a little bit more interesting from a geopolitical perspective Uh-huh, and that is a gentleman by the name of Alexander Nick Rassov This guy is a former and I put this former in quotes possibly with a heavy question mark Kremlin political advisor That's not a great thing you generally don't get to be a former one of those like a lot of former anything Near the Kremlin's are dead and he has experience working with the Russian government for approximately 20 years or so great It goes back to you like before just like with the mob. They just let you go, you know They just let you retire. They're like, hey, look, I get it. You don't want to do this anymore

Sure, you know a lot of secrets that other people could find out if they talk to you But no big deal I found tons of articles about that he's written for places like Al Jazeera and other publications That just tow the Russian line like he has one article about how Marine Le Pen is awesome And how it's no big deal that the Russian Bank gave her like 40 million dollars, you know, it's weird in the Lego movie That's who that song was about. Is that right? Yeah, every pen is awesome That's it was about it was written by Alexander Necreso. Yep. So Alex has him on Pharrell has a lot of weird friends Alex has him on the show and this is the sort of hard-hating journalism that Alex Jones does

So why do Russians love Putin so much? Great great great great I mean, I you know what's interesting. That's actually a very complicated question because Putin strangely enough does enjoy a Largely favorable view amongst Russians. Yeah, that is something that is true Like if the weirdest part about that election that they had that was clearly fucking rigged, right? We'll get to that a little later. I think if it wasn't rigged, he still would have won It's possible. I mean, it's I don't know

I think there's a high likelihood that it would happen. It's possible. Um, but what what I think is more interesting is a Little bit down the line in this interview Alexander Necresov explains what just what he used to do for the Russian government. Mm-hmm And this should this should set off hard rice and soft rice This should set off alarm bells in everyone but Alex Jones for some reason. I must accept this as well Alex that Putin and his crowd sometimes do and say things that are not great You know as a public relations exercise

I would say and I think there has to be more cooperation in the sense that I was a trouble shooter for the Kremlin I don't like that word. My job was to fix things. I don't like that was to go behind the scenes and Basically resolve the problems before the big boys were meeting. That's a murder No, he's talking about being a public relations foreign media fixer. He would go in and sneakily work behind the scenes He's a propagandist. Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, he just admitted on Alex Jones No, I would be to go and deal with issues in the media, right visa v propaganda He was like Putin and his associates would do things that the international community frowns upon He was like Peter Capaldi and the thick of it or in the loop

Yeah, he was a he was a media dark arts master if you will it's yet another just like embarrassing example of Alex Either just being completely oblivious of the people he surrounds himself with or just Publicly revealing what his game is and I mean, I don't think I don't think in any way that he works for Russia or anything like that But these pro-Putin tendencies are insane I I am just a big fan of how little respect this guy gives Alex's show in so far as he's just like I'm gonna lay it all out there. Yeah, I would go and lie to people Especially that's what I would do. Yeah, media people people who asked me questions Don't worry. I'm right lie to them retired media people people who work in me like it's let's say you were a radio host

Mm-hmm, and Putin did something that you didn't like what I would do is Before you ever even got close to talking about Putin I would go to you and I would assuage your fears so you would be more pro-Putin Alex I would never do that to you though. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna tell you the straight truth Yeah, absolutely fucking bullshit So beyond that the only other narratives that happened on this show are Alex gets a little bit into the Cambridge Analytica situation I assume he does so very hard with a lot of data behind it a lot of facts It just really gets into I just screams about how Facebook's really the bad guy in the camera. That's not terribly wrong

Well, it is wrong in perspective, but it's it's correct To a point yeah, you're not good But that's your you shouldn't be defending Cambridge Analytica to get to face You're muddying the conversation You should be hating Cambridge Analytica and then adding in Facebook sucks also on the 20th The day before or I believe in the early morning hours and I'm entirely sure exactly when it happened But that bomb went off at the San Antonio FedEx Center Yes, and Alex tries to pretend that this doesn't undo all of his narratives about his secret sources about the Austin

Right because all that stuff about like it's built on the porch It takes 20 minutes for the guy to cook the bomb on the porch. Well, it was a FedEx worker who did it? Oh, it must have been yeah, so all that stuff is you know the famous FedEx porch the FedEx porch Yeah, whatever you whenever you go to FedEx before you drop the package off you you hang out on the porch You sit on a rocking chair next to the other FedEx porch guys indeed. It's all good Alex continues a little bit of like we got to use covert action against the globalists I have you got a kind of actually advocating for Trump like working behind the scenes to like take people out I'm a little upsetting, but again. He's still just using that that shit language that he uses to avoid responsibility

Politically yeah, so now now that we've moved on from the 20th. We're about to get to the 21st Which would be Wednesday if you're nasty, but before we get to that we need what would you call it if you aren't nasty Wednesday Wednesday Before we wet nieces day before we get there we got to hear an out of context drop from the 21st Well, you can be sure that you're gonna be getting that Attorney general job as you go on not just the interim and you're gonna be sure maybe a Supreme Court seat if you'd like it How's that sound my little baby? I'm a policy walk Oh, no, I

Dude started fucking up there. Is that a is that is Ruth Bader Ginsburg impression indeed it is that is that Bernie Sanders? That's Bernie, baby. All right. No, that's um, that's Bill Clinton, right? Of course, yeah, that's not actually all that interesting, but I always like it when he does an impression that you got to throw it in You know, you can't you can't miss an opportunity for his SNL real Yeah At least I would pay a million dollars to see that audition tape at least that's closer to the acceptable impression like if Alex if Alex spent a couple of years in the ground links and Lauren just kind of was like we're just gonna give everybody a shot and I oh I would watch that audition tape so fast

Jesus, that would be amazing. Oh, so good. Um, so on the 21st also piece of advice Alex Take a class at ground links. Oh, oh, it'd be a good idea. Oh, oh, it'd be a great idea to the chat room It's wine. We got a red wine. Yeah, so on the 21st, uh-huh, uh-huh. I Gotta say I did a lot of talking and explaining over the 20th because it's not that great Yeah, the 21st and 22nd feature some high-end bullshit Like who like some of the stuff spoke bullshit indeed. Okay indeed. This was tailored for Alex Okay, this stuff is like it's kind of in the league of stuff that I've like I wait for

Bullshit like this because it's okay. It it's just it's the kind of bullshit You can sink your teeth into it's the bullshit you can laugh at like why are you doing this right and it's the kind It made you read six different books. Yes. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, there we go That's your bullshit right there It's the kind of stuff where you can you can look at it and you can know that he knows he's lying Uh-huh, and then you can look at it and be like, okay Now why are you lying which is a much more interesting conversation or interesting like Train of thought then just is he lying? Oh, no, he's exactly. No, that's that's what's really been lacking in the present for us

For so long. It's just like he's just pathetic. He's just sad, you know Well, it's pathetic lies about like straw man versions of his lawsuits and stuff like that and it's just like yeah Of course, you're doing this. This is too transparent self-protection and shit like that now We get into the now we get into the good shit So Alex has found a story that's a couple days old and he's shocked that he hasn't heard about it yet And he delivers it with the most immediacy anyone has ever Playing cat died. No, it's not that it's not that one. No, it's not that I assumed it would be you know what I want to do You know what I want to do at some point maybe we don't do this episode, but like you rattle off

Like things that you think Alex should cover and I'm like it's coming up or Because there's a lot of you will do a we'll do a classic like a Yay or nay segment. Mm-hmm. Okay. There's a lot of news and a lot of it doesn't get covered coming or going this one is going It just gets crazier look at this daily caller. It's a footnote in the Washington Post the top investigator Into the Seth Rich murder was shot I Want to hold off there really quick because I I wonder what that means. I'm already In wondering what top it like the best investigator the guy who's leading the team right like what are we talking about top investigator wise?

I don't know. It's never really spelled out. Okay, Washington post the top investigator Into the Seth Rich murder was shot twice in the back once in the but actually he got away with his doxen Badger hound in his arms. Yeah, and then the person began trying to run him over a marine With the Department of Energy Yeah, when the hitman comes that's that's what they are a marine with the Department of Energy and so It's just next level. I don't want to get this individual on he's been the prominent lawyer Putting out the rewards investigating doing all this back with the family wanted that it's still an unsolved murder

And evidence mounts that there were laptops and the DNC real quick. We'll get back to all that is We'll get back not mounted. We'll get back to all this But real quick Alex is trying to conflate a number of things because Seth Rich and his parents I guess that rich didn't his parents did because he was dead at the time But his parents put out a reward for information about people who killed him Yeah, and so did this guy and Alex is conflating the two trying to pretend that they're the same reward Whereas they're different. But anyway, he and cover ups and all this stuff going on the family suing Fox news They are questioning not for Alex Jones Fox News sued for conspiracy theories New York Daily News

Translate that asking questions why Jones will probably think it's a big deal. That's lawyer got shot twice in the back once in the ass He thought he was at a document tick up And when he went under the orange cone To get the documents He got shot twice in the back he ran with his dog in his arms Don't the feller coming after him who's been arrested Didn't stop sort of running over him, but he jumped between cars after being rammed twice and lived So Alex screams about this narrative for pretty much the entirety of the show

It just keeps coming up and he's like that's all the information he gives on it Uh-huh that you basically heard all of it, but just imagine him screaming late for a while. Yeah Yes, he has dr. Groupon later and he screams at him about it. It's like, why are you telling your chiropractor? Oh, this is this nonsense. Well, if you get shot in the ass, you're gonna need a you're gonna need an adjustment Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, so what do you think about this narrative? What do you think about this story? Is it scary? Well? If I understand it correctly The top investigator right which is a nebulous idea to begin with right he was shot twice Also, let's put investigator in quotes

No, does he even work for the police? No, good God. No No, he's a crazy dude You couldn't even call him it does he have his private investigators license? I don't think so Period he's a lobbyist. He's a hobbyist. He's a lobbyist and a hobbyist. He's wait. He's a lobbyist back to that in a minute What do you mean? We're gonna get back to that that seems like the most important part of this It's not well, maybe it is but I can't prove it. His name is Jack Berkman And Alex is trying to pretend that he's working in an official capacity as an investigator, right? Clearly not. He's not. He's just someone who

Decided to take it upon himself to start an investigation into the Seth Richie's murder that the problem therein is that now We go from it's a conspiracy to you getting shot twice in the back, too Like hey, dude, you're probably fucking pissing people off and maybe you have getting shot in the back coming at you Well, hold on. Oh boy. So now the guy who shot him and tried to run him down with a car a marine from the Department of Energy I don't I didn't look into that because I don't really care. I think that I Don't Marine LePen from the Department of Energy. I don't know man. All right. I don't care I think I know that he's not involved in that. He's a crazy dude In I know that because he's a guy named Kevin Doherty

And Alex is trying to pretend that he's an assassin who was sent to kill him I'm a run from the Department of Energy Yeah, he's trying to pretend he's an assassin sent to kill Jack Berkman because he wouldn't stop investigating the case However, if you actually read the articles about this, it's not a political hit job But it's a case of one crazy person attacking another crazy person Here is the here's the quote about this Jack Berkman told the Washington Post that he had hired Kevin Doherty to help him build a psychological Profile of riches killer Berkman fired Doherty in July 2017. Oh god and moved on to investigating the FBI

This can't be real in February Berkman was contacted by a man who claimed to have information on then deputy director of the FBI Andrew McCabe now we'll get back to out of the quote spoiler alert that guy didn't have information Oh, it was Doherty planning to kill him. What? Yeah, this is Awesome, so I am now a fuck fuck everything but this story. This is my favorite Yeah, wait, so okay. All right, so now instead of the Top investigator getting shot twice in the back and running away with his doxin. Yes now we have random as dude who

Was hired to look up information on Seth Rich And then he was fired from doing that and then later he was given a contact Who said if you meet with me, I'll give you information on Andrew McCabe Yes, but it turns out that the guy who fired him in the first place was the guy who is sending him that in order to murder him clandestinely I think you have some of your pronoun reference wrong, but That's kind of the circumstance Jack Berkman decided to investigate Seth Rich's murder. Yes, and he Might have had a reason to do so which we'll get into in a minute Okay, he hired Kevin Doherty who probably was an ex-Marine and might have worked for the Department of Energy at some point

But is now a crazy person worked with Rick Perry is beyond all that. He's not employed by those people anymore They get into a little bit of a beef while they're working together Because Jack Berkman thinks that Kevin Doherty is trying to turn the project into being about himself He thinks that he's grandiose and in interviews and stuff like that is taking over the project So he's see now that's something that he completely not grandiose in paranoid person would think well paranoid people would never investigate You know Of course not and they definitely wouldn't get sidetracked because they thought the other guy was getting too much attention, right? Yeah, that's that's a normal thing to do. So that comes to head in July 2017 and

Berkman fires Doherty at which point because there's not much to the Seth Rich Conspiracy nonsense. You mean nothing, right? He ends up moving on to investigating the FBI a little bit down the road Yeah, cuz if you're gonna go crazy might as well take it all the way to the top a little bit down the road He gets contacted by an anonymous source who spoiler alert is Doherty trying to lure him to a location so he can kill it That's what's going on it's the it's Jordan what we call this is the cost of doing business in the conspiracy world You're gonna end up working with dangerous crazy people who might want to kill you at some point that is Spectacular, I don't I don't know if a story has made me feel quite so look I get it

I'm against people getting shot, but it's pretty hilarious because he lives seeing them cannibalize each other That's kind of funny to me. He lived. He only has like a broken wrist or something like that. It's not even a big deal And so I mean if you die to be you know broken wrist from getting his ass shot You know what all the stories I could find don't even really confirm that he was shot They just say he says he was shot which we can confirm means he was not shot But it could mean that it was like a BB gun or something like that or like a pellet gun or something I don't know I don't it may not even been it may not even have been a murder plan It was more just like I'm gonna beat the shit out of this guy might have been a blow dart

I don't know that'd be fun. There's all sorts of eat now. That's cartoon and I love it There's all sorts of unknowns about it But what I do know is this has nothing to do with Seth Rich It has to do with a petty squabble between two crazy dudes. How do you get named a top investigator? Just into the Seth Rich just be in the news. Alex Jones will call you that you know, okay? All right, so I told you he was a lobbyist. Yes. Now here's where this is important Alex Jones doesn't bring this up. Okay, but it turns out that Jack Berkman is a Trump connected lobbyist who in the past has Raised money for Rick Gates and if you don't remember who that is Rick Gates is Paul Manafort's associate and Trump campaign manager

who recently pled guilty to lying to the FBI and conspiracy against the United States So, oh boy. Yeah, so we've got the most trustworthy people involved with this story I don't know. I don't know a hundred percent if that's connected or anything like that, but it's certainly interesting So that is very interesting at this point. Why isn't that it see now that seems like a Like if you've how many stories did you read about this where they went into how insane and ludicrous? This is detail by detail almost none. I had to piece it together from a bunch of stories now That seems like a crazy awesome story. It's like if Wapo Which is how I abbreviate Washington Post. I know them. Yeah, your friends

If Washington Post did a story that was like crazy people doing crazy shit like that. I'm fucking reading that all day They got to figure out how to do clickbait if they're gonna do it, right? Yeah, come on, man So I agree with you this story on its merits bananas juicy. Yes, but unfortunately Alex doesn't really know how to make this suspicious Because he can't even look I mean You can't you don't need to fit it in your narrative if you've got this story He does throw down. No, he does because the reality of the situation points fingers at Trump at Rick Gates Why is this Trump connected lobbyist being a top Seth rich investigator in the first place rare What is going on here if you really look into the craziness between the two?

You kind of come to a damning indictment of the mindset that drives you down that road to begin with see now Here we go. Let's go reverse Reverse engineering this let's rewrite the narrative for Alex Jones False flag. All right, the guy who is associated oxen's fault if you think of well, of course it was The docks and killed nonk right the the the guy who is associated with Rick Gates Clearly being set up in order to discredit anybody who has ever hired Anybody who's ever worked for Trump in the past, right? So now you got a whole new narrative to go down. This is a fascinating story

You might you can what you can wind this in with your other narratives And you can still tell the truth which is juicy and interesting You might be close to what he thinks as is but he just he just can't really figure out how to work this Okay, so you you had your version. Here's his WikiLeaks not good. All right come out Julien Assange and said we don't give away sources, but yes, you should look at him as a source We are offering a reward for his Hunter doesn't sound like WikiLeaks. Oh, he didn't say you should treat him as a source or that, you know, he

Julie Massange did try to you know pretend that he was the source In a way just to cause political trouble, right? There's an article that came out Literally just before we started recording where the it's very clear now that Guccifer 2.0 was a GRU Russian intelligence really cut out. Yeah, all because they went over all of the time like clear Well, you're cut. No, no, there's an article and bona fides about there's an article in the Daily Beast about this That just came out like right before we started recording and they were going over all of the times that emails were sent Or any IP addresses were logged. Uh-huh and every time it went to a VPN server that was lodged in France

To get around IP address stuff, but one time when he logged in he forgot to use the VPN settings And that IP address linked directly back to GRU So fuck yes, so it is now entirely on you daily beast. That's some fucking great journalism shit Well as long as that story is accurate, which right it seems like it is I don't know we'll see how the reporting goes in the next couple days and what have you but if that story is true Then Guccifer 2.0 is a Russian intelligence cut out. Yep persona Roger stone has interacted with Very clear about it

it if that's true the crimes have all been committed and Guccifer 2.0 has said that he sent the emails directly to WikiLeaks a tweet that WikiLeaks Themselves retweeted. Yeah, and if that's the case then Russian intelligence gave the emails that they hacked from the DNC Directly to WikiLeaks, which does kind of complicate things for Julian Assange nah I mean, okay, so when the when the fish people write the history is of our time Uh This is like and I've said this I've said this before but unqualified

Russia did a great job Well, I mean should have signed into that VPN. So oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely But but it's because of that discovery that we can realize how great a job they did at pulling all of this shit off Like this is crazy. This is movie level spy bullshit that you don't expect to be this trilogy level This isn't one movie exactly. This is fucking solid shit. Like I I mean, of course they committed So many treasons and and so forth and and we're like we're at Like like the more you learn about it. We're kind of at hot war level Uh

Crimes that they well, thankfully we got john bolton and yeah, I know so we'll never have to worry about it Yeah, um someone someone someone who has actively said that the united nations doesn't exist Yeah, except uh in as much as we want them to oh, yeah By the way, uh that tease that you gave that this might be our last live episode for a while It's now going to be on every single episode because we're all going to die Bolton is a fucking insane person without exaggeration. This is one of the more fucked up staff decisions He could have possibly made. Oh, yeah, and I'm really excited to see because I I can't imagine Steve Pachanik won't be on the show tomorrow

And Steve Pachanik is going to be furious. Oh, yeah hates john bolton And from conversations that I've had with uh with folk, uh, you know, just you know friends not sources or anything towns people Um, uh, we we believe that this will have to be a breaking point for Steve Pachanik Like he thinks so turn on trump if trump is in bed with bolton. He hates john bolton Okay, so this could be we shall see this could lead if there's one thing that I've learned In these past few years it is that nobody on the right believes in anything. Steve Pachanik isn't on the right He's chaotic. That's true. He is chaotic evil. He is above all that in a way that alex wishes He could be right. I believe I believe that pretty wholeheartedly

Okay, and I I've been convinced that Steve Pachanik's guiding principles are being um violated By the behavior that trump is using and he'll have to steve will have to turn on alex I can't wait if he's not on tomorrow. I'm going to be furious. Okay, uh, but anyway Uh, the alex is trying to weave this seth rich narrative. He's brought the wiki leaks part and now we've discussed why that's pretty stupid Right, and he's also just lying. Yeah Well murders Being discovered spinning a yarn and what happens seth rich shot multiple times in the back

Once in the body nothing taken The family came out. I saw him on the news held up pictures uh said We want to find out who killed our son Very suspicious behavior for a family. Oh, yeah You bought the article from this week headline fox news alex jones sued Newark daily news

It's a photo. He's so mad. He didn't get top belly with The Reward that she's Handing out That's him rate staccato so bad, but he's trying to uh compare and again conflate the two rewards that were offered the family's one and then this uh Parkman berkman whatever his fucking name who gives a shit berkman jack berkman's uh nonsense He's trying to conflate the two and it's just stupid

The reward flyers is that so people start investigating one So there he's saying i'm just loving his rhythm of speech right now. It's rough if They see He's like a beat poet like that's what he's doing right now. No, it's someone who doesn't No, he has no idea. No, he's got Nothing he's trying to figure out a way to go on. He's trying to weave this into a coherent sentences. It's hard. It's not working to Talk like this all The time it'd be very annoying and I hope you stop right now

I don't uh, but what he did right there No, if I get what he did right there is he's saying that like they came out and offered this reward And so people started investigating. Yes, and I would argue the top Investigators started investigating. I would argue that that's not why people give rewards They give rewards for information that is already had by people not as a call for investigative vigilantism Uh, I believe actually they hired the pinkertons. It's not what they did. It's not like um You know, it's not a call for uh amateur sleuths, right? Hey, any of you guys want to make your name in the game? We want to make a big scoop

It's an ad in the back of an adventure comic book in the 1940s. That's the way he's presented Yeah, yeah, the family came out and gave a reward. Of course, they're gonna be fake investigators coming out Do you like the hearty boys? Have you ever wanted to be one? So ridiculous People start looking into this And then they get sued Investigators you see on tv That the family said they're working whether that they say Say they're finding evidence of dnc connections. Then suddenly those people change their stories

Well, that's interesting because who you're talking about is rod wheeler Who was a guy who freelanced for uh, fox news who has since sued fox news, right? And well, he changed the story ed batowski and melia zimmerman He sued them for using quotes that were not from him That he they he they falsely attributed information as to coming from him and that's why his story changed Right because fox news lied the first time it tends to change whenever you you've got legal action coming at you Right. So he's like, hey, um, why are all these people who are finding evidence of the clinton's being involved in this changing their stories? Well, because the first story was a fucking lie

Right and now and then the law the law is involved, right and you're not allowed to lie to the law And no one's getting that's considered also a crime. No one's getting sued for investigating. Seth rich are looking into this There's thousands and thousands of fucking people on the internet who are digging in deep, right? Who are completely within their legal right the people who are getting sued are ed batowski melia zimmerman and executives at fox news for a conspiracy that they clearly engaged him, you know Based on emails that are in the lawsuit here that are dammit If you are one of these republicans, right? uh, shouldn't the

Staggering number of lawsuits being filed against you kind of like like when you take a step back And look at all of the people you support and how many lawsuits have been filed against them recently Shouldn't you start to think oh Maybe nah You're an idiot. Okay fair enough because what you that is a good defense What you should do is you should see that is proof that you're in the right direction And that the globalists are attacking you for being of course, of course. They're trying to take you down That's alex's cosmology. I mean he talks about it all the time. He's like he uses like the analogy of world war

One bombers that didn't have radar and they would only know that they were above the target whenever they're getting shot at You know, it's like I sure I know it's time to drop the payload whenever i'm getting shot at He says this in so many different ways like whenever people are attacking me That's where I know i'm doing the right thing right right people might be attacking you sometimes because you're way out of line interesting factoid, uh, do you know why uh, the uh, the whole carrots improve your vision thing came about Conspiracy of rabbits. No, it was propaganda put out by the british government to hide the fact that they had discovered Or that they had started using radar So in or it's like in order to make sure that people or no in order to kind of sow doubt into people about whether or not

Radar actually existed for planes. They said that their best pilots were eating a lot of carrots and that's why their vision was better It's fascinating. It is fascinating. I had no idea about it. It's a fascinating factoid. Thank you very much, dan I appreciate when you move on. I appreciate what you bring to the show I I'm such an asshole. I'm sorry. I'm gonna be on vacation here, sir. So there you are. Yeah, that's your farewell You're not gonna you're not gonna get that from other people, dad. Oh hogan's Ain't no co-hosts gonna come me over down that shit, especially with that sort of weird That was a like a person from the bayou who's yelling

Um, so at this point, uh, we're sort of done with uh, alex's seth rich bullshit narrative It goes on throughout the show, but you know, we just took care of it up top Right. Um at this point alex gets into a narrative that he has They gotta stick with that Like there's so many of those narratives that just won't go away because they genuinely have nothing Like they literally have nothing to go on like they they have so much nothing They can't even come up with a new fake narrative because every narrative points back to the reality of because it's we got fucked There were spies everything is fucked. It's gerome coursey style, baby. They made a mem

They're running with the mem mem. So at this point alex jumps to another mem Mem, uh, and if you've ever listened to our show or ever listen to alex jones' show and you have a memory Then you'll hear You will hear a lot of familiar stuff in this Yeah, pretty much every other week or so alex jones will start screaming about how the globalists are fleeing to their armored redoubts Of course somebody has to uh today on the here in this 21st of uh march 2018. No exception. Ah Here's the deal What my own instincts say

I should be in montana or something and digging in with a transmission system there He's uh gone on a rant about how if you can't afford to get to new zealand or kawai then people are going to montana utah alex You should not be in america if you are if you are at all worried Go to a place where there's poor extradition laws. No because his conception is that the globalists are going to kick off like, uh,

urban chaos and contra like Weaponized diseases and stuff like that. That sounds fun. He has dr. Group on uh Dr. Group on that's fun. There we go. Um, and they talk They talk about uh weapon x or not weapon x that's that's wolverine Jesus They talk about disease x nicked nicked my friend dad. Do you know about disease x? I don't know what disease x so they talk about disease x and uh, is that the disease x y axis? Like what are we talking about here? No, uh, it's something that the world health organization is warning about

Um, uh, they're wondering about the breakout of disease x Dr. Group says he's done a lot of research under this And the sure sure and the two of them are famed chirobeactic chiropractic naturopath Yeah, the two of them does a lot of research into disease x They have a bunch of conversation that sort of leads you to believe that uh, they think it's a thing Okay, uh, when it's not it's a designation for everything that's not on the world health organization's radar That could be a deadly right. All right. They put out a list every year of like the unknown unknowns. Exactly. Yeah It's playing the field basically which by the way that fucking

I hate that that's a uh, whatever. What? Oh, yeah, yeah unknown unknowns. Yeah, like that fucking guy Uh rumsfeld fucking god. He's such a he's one of the most Evil psychopaths. I think in the history of the world. So I agree, but back to disease x Yeah, sorry about that. John arne rottingen, uh chief executive of the research council of norway and scientific advisor to the world health organization committee explains disease x thus Quote history tells us that it is likely that the next big outbreak will be something we have not seen before right It may seem strange that adding an x, uh, but the point is to make sure we prepare and plan flexibly in terms of vaccines and diagnostic tests We want to we want to see plug-and-play platforms Developed which will work for any or a wide number of diseases systems that allow us to create countermeasures at speed

Yeah, so what they're just talking about is the ability plan for the best prepare for the worst. Yes 100 very simple And uh, so they get it. Why do they keep fucking made these people are so bad at naming shit No disease x this is this is this goes right back to agenda 21 when it's like god damn it Stop naming it shit. We're conspiracy theorists are gonna be like, holy fuck It's they're clearly talking about a disease. They're trying to create. I know just just be like This is we're planning for shit. We don't know because historically humans don't know everything So we don't know everything. Well, and alex also talks about how like clearly there's like vaccines and like they're trying to create a super bug That's gonna kill us. That's what this is right when in the article that talks about it

They clearly say that quote as the ecosystem and human habitats change There's always the risk of disease jumping from animals to humans It's a natural process and it is vital that we're aware and prepare. It's probably the greatest risk Yeah, of course They go on to explain that like because of the way the climate's changing and because the way the things are becoming more compact Uh, uh that we run the risk of being much more in contact with animals And have diseases that we haven't experienced before I mean Ebola is an example of it There's a hundred examples of terrible diseases that have jumped over from animals the the story that I think about most

Uh, currently is the one of the uh, the there was a doctor Um, I can't remember when and I can't remember his name because I am shitty at this But he was the first doctor who kind of started doing research into why it is Uh doctors were killing so many people And what he found was that so many doctors were going legitimately directly from an autopsy to Uh, uh birth going directly from all of these autopsies to other shit and his his solution was like hey guys Wash your fucking hands

now, uh That of course destroyed his career because doctors were insisting that no you don't need to do that And you never need to worry about it because doctors are the best people in the world And so they spent their entire fucking like his entire life was destroyed for coming up with the single best idea Any doctor maybe has ever come up with in history. So when you talk about something like disease x that's that guy going to be like, hey We know We fuck up We know that there's something that we need to do because something is coming around the corner because it's always coming around the corner

So maybe plan ahead for once and guys like alex jones are the same guys who are like No, no, no, no, don't worry about it. Put all your bodies in the same thing and then poop next to where you live Well, well said same shit. I think that's perfectly put now back to the part about how the global sorry sorry for that I'm I'm off on a weird tangent. No, I'm off on carrots and wash your fucking hands That's weird. I think that made total sense But uh, we had that sort of sidetrack started with talking about dr. Groupon disease x That's right And it was just my way of explaining that alex jones is pretty convinced that the globalists are planning to flee

and we'll go back to this clip and Alternately going in between because when the hammer drops a war could trigger it stop market collapse We're talking weeks Till the ebt cards don't work everything blows sky high and I can go over hours describing this the globalists are going to shoot out Transformers all over the country. Yeah, they're going to then foment um Antifa and communists pouring out burning down buildings attacking police stations show

Civilization breaks down. They're going to have package bombs going off just every day in every major city We've told you this is all coming I don't know. This is a sigh up by the globalist here with some Who knows? Holy shit, but I know this here's the article up on info wars.com dc officials flocked to doomsday camps What do they know that we don't so this links? This links back to an article in the washington examiner and it's just a rough piece. Yeah

It's just one of these you see these articles all the time if you follow such a huge fan of the what do they know that? We don't know article. That's that's probably the info wars headline But like be that as it may like all that I read over this and it's just basically um, I would describe it as a buzz marketing piece for this guy's uh Um What's it called? I can't remember the name of his his place But it's some it's some place where they sell studio 54. They sell bug out shit. You know like or like a oh, yeah

Bunker spots. Yeah, you see this over and over doomsday preppers Yeah, you see this over and over again if you follow the conspiracy community Something will happen the world will get pretty anxious about it Then stories will pop up about hey all the elites are buying uh bungalows under the ground You saw it with the uh, you don't even know where to hide your guns. We're way back there now Right, you saw that in the Mayan apocalypse. You saw alex pushing these narratives over and over and over again through the years I read the article. It's the exact same thing the idea that dc officials are leaving Is based on a quote from the guy in the article that says that unnamed who may

Have a vested interest in inflating the importance of the business could be could be and he says that uh people from unnamed Three letter organizations Are coming in uh the fbi the cia the nsa SVU. Yes, that's all of them Um and and like in the absence of any real information. I'm gonna take this one as a oh, I've seen this article before I've seen alex say these things before I don't give a shit. Did somebody copy and paste this Yeah, basically. Yeah, but But this time

It's real something is different what and the timing is just too suspicious. Okay So that's just one article, but let me give you the real article This is today. I wonder where he has it guess where obama is with no fanfare Obama is in new zealand For meetings golf, but no public talks And who's he meeting with? I wonder who the lord of the rings tour guys associated press reports Over president barack obama arrived wednesday for a three-day visit new zealand where he'll speak with community leaders meet the prime minister and play golf

The seasons the sections will be closed to the public and media except for an official welcome ceremony thursday obama does not plan to answer questions from reporters He's a citizen. Why would and then it just goes on to what he's going to be doing there meeting with community leaders business leaders and the prime minister And to work with the obama foundation That means the obama foundation building him an armored fortress as an escape. That sounds right. Okay, that sounds right That sounds right. That's not a huge leap. That is not a huge leap at all He's working with the obama obama foundation, right Who is building him a huge why a scapegoat or in new zealand?

Um, this is really popular in the conspiracy world. Would you build your escape? Here's the thing peter teal Bought a ton of land in new zealand, uh, as I should have pinned him in my uh, who you should murder if you're a mass murderer article I put out today. Um, peter teal should also be I shouldn't have re i shouldn't have retweeted that Oh, yeah, no, you absolutely should have read that first. You should not have done that It is a very damning article Um, I will not be allowed to run for any kind of office not even alderman Uh, uh dog catcher. Do they still like that? No So peter teal owns a huge plot of land in new zealand

And he said that it's as a sort of backup last resort kind of thing Right to run away from when society collapses, right? And this is of course This has become sort of a mem in the conspiracy world that everybody is making these fortresses uh in foreign places and it's I find very little uh compelling evidence behind it other than this one story about peter teal Uh, and Well, and rank paranoia that we all feel right in all honesty, I have

I have asked myself the question of like Knowing that the massive disaster is coming Uh, regardless regardless of what you think it is. It might not be so bad Like no, no, no climate change is going to massively restructure the world Like regardless of how bad you think it is going to be but we're flexible, right? So what I'm what I'm saying is I would want to figure out where it is that I would put my, uh, redoubt So to speak and you want you want fresh water, right? Uh, you want, uh, Good pizza delivery. Absolutely. That's um, no not anymore. You know how to make pizza at home

Oh, that's true. You don't need that. Well, then I need a grocery store I need a whole foods near me, but I can't use that because amazon and owns that now. Well, that's fine though I gotta where am I gonna find an alde in new zealand doesn't matter amazon has drones that can deliver Oh, that's a good point. But I still want jeff bezos to die And the drones don't have to go with him. Can I reprogram a drone to like deliver me the pizza and then The pizza ingredients. Yeah. Well, yeah Look, um, my my position on all that stuff is I don't know. I don't want to get too deep into this but

Um, as all that stuff comes it becomes more and more important that people who are Um, not shitheads be around and don't run away. Yeah, and so I don't care about all that Sort of conversation about where are we gonna hide? Right? We hide in the shit of it and try and help people That's kind of my perspective on it. Yeah, and I hope when things get bad Uh, I can walk the walk that I'm very casually talking. Yeah, I don't know. That's the case No, of course not. I might run away like a coward. You never know how you're gonna act in a crisis until a crisis I might hang myself in a closet There's no fucking way for me to know what my reaction will be

But I pray and hope that it is Help people that I can help And build community now. See that's where I am I'm out because every time somebody's like, what would you do in a zombie apocalypse? I'd be like shoot myself in the head. Fuck that shit. Well, I don't need any of that noise. That's different I don't need that bullshit zombie apocalypse is incredibly different than uh, uh galvanizing and unifying uh struggle of humanity That's that's a good point because climate change is not so much a like

It's not like if you get hit by a rogue wave like an errant wave You become a wave You know, it's not like that Or is it dad? I don't think so. Have you considered a giant rogue wave of people? I've been hit in an undertow before. Oh, it's scary. Isn't it? It's very scary, but I did come an undertow So on this episode the 21st a lot of a lot of alex jones listeners would disagree. Jordan this episode is gonna be three hours I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm having fun. No, it is fun. I enjoy this Um on the 21st dr. Group. I like how you say that reluctantly. I didn't say it's fun. I enjoy this

I only threw that later because I wasn't saying it reluctantly and it made me mad. They were insinuating such is dramatic effect I get it. Uh, uh, so dr. Group is on our boy eddie. Yes eddie group Um, and one of the things that he's spinning is some crazy shit Not hot fire. He's he's on there talking about how your pineal gland has a crystal in it Boy and vaccines. Oh, no and fluoride. No And the air dan and your phone that's not good and everything around you pretty much hurts that crystal It hurts that crystal, but you know what can help

I'm gonna go with fake bullshit pills. I had iron. Oh, yeah Ha ha ha ha ha colloidal iodine Now why he says that iodine is the only thing that can help the pineal gland and I Why well because it's non-sides, but here's the thing. All right fair enough I've spent a lot of time in the trenches of the new age world Yeah, a lot of that that sort of stuff a lot of crystals. I know from going to all of these websites and researching all this stuff

No one says that iodine is the thing we use. It's turmeric turmeric is the thing Yes, turmeric. All right, dad turmeric is supposed to decalcify your pineal. I recognize your fake correction of his fake bullshit I just want to be above board about all right. All right. All right. I get it. I get it Anyway, we're not gonna listen to dr. Group talk about this. Thank god because it's more important that later in dr. Group's appearance They start taking calls and they get this call which is buck wild. This is a mic down moment. Okay Let me see. Alexander says this is an attorney in california Uh, he wants to talk about the pineal gland. So since we were talking about that, let's talk to alexander in california here on the air

Hello alex and congratulations doctor for revealing to the public The fact that the pineal gland does have a crystal in it and that is our unique ability I wanted to hear that these cell phones Let's let's see if his phone comes back If we had if we had finally tuned our pineal gland, we could be communicating telepathically We are spiritual beings. We are very powerful beings And the one percent is trying to deny that ability to us. We have to have faith We have to develop that and you're helping us do that. I want to congratulate you for that

It's excellent work that you do alex and one thing I would like more stories about the sandy hook hoax Oh boy. Oh boy Oh boy, that was a harsh change in direction That was a very harsh change in direction That was a really hard turn I'm an attorney. I want to talk about the pineal gland that has a crystal inside of it. We are Sandy hook was fake. Wait, wait, wait. No, even before that we're capable of telepathy. Well, yeah The globalists don't want us to tell like of telepathy sandy hook was fake. Look

Nobody right hates the one percent as much as I do I have yet to accuse them of inhibiting our pineal crystal gland crystals Right, because I mean like just which by the way, I'm starting a new line of crystal called the pineal brand crystal Well, I mean like let's just Blue sky this this idea. Okay. Let's just sort of spitball on this If it is the case I'm hearing an if then statement being said. Well, I'm just look. This is how blue sky thinking works All right, there we go. If we're talking no bad idea if we're talking about edward group the noted chiropractors ideas

And he's saying that your cell phone and modern technology and fluoride in the water And vaccines are the things that are inhibiting your pineal gland Then what we should see is telepathy in humans in the 1600 We should see telepathy Dan your your logic is flawed Of course it is. Didn't you see the the pictures of the phone where the guy was in the 1700s that was time traveler. He had the phone. I said I retract my argument and that was not from the 1700s. That was from like the 1910s. Who cares? Who cares?

It's all made up bullshit. It was an earphone. Yeah, it was an earhorn. No, no, I don't uh, that sort of argument falls flat for me because for one reason Maybe because I've gone down so many of these stupid New age roads and I've found so much Huxterism in it I've found so much con man behavior in the same way that you do with alex jones and his entire world There are so many people who are trying to sell you on these like superhuman capabilities that you're able to achieve If only you weren't being held down and I believe in human potential

I think our consciousness is way more powerful than we think it is But I don't think that if we D uh, if we just washed off our pineal gland crystal by not drinking water Not being around electronics not having a cell phone not taking vaccines, right, uh, etc There's even more things of course then somehow we'd be able to telepathically communicate Well, it's horse shit. It is money in the water of like of of Fun new age stuff with new age bullshit But what it's connected to is the the bodhisattva like ultimately when you get down to all of this shit

It winds up being a rehashing of The buddha went to the fucking mountain and meditated for six months and or or like my my favorite I got distracted because when you said bodhisattva, I just thought of that steely dance on see now I immediately thought of a point break But for for so much of this shit It just all goes down to that that guy who goes into the middle of nowhere and cleanses himself of humanity Reaches enlightenment and then so on and so forth goes to aesthetic Lifestyle. Yeah, now if that's what you want to do fucking fine

But if you're somebody who is doing that and then coming back to other people There's no explanation for why you would come back to other people, right? Like that's the thing that always breaks it down. Mm-hmm That's that's why my favorite my favorite My favorite buddha my favorite bodhisattva my favorite guy who ever reached enlightenment was a ikkyu sojin who famously Reached enlightenment whenever a crow dropped a rock in the middle of a lake

And then was given the head of a buddhist monastery And after nine days, he said fuck you guys. You're all corrupt. You can find me at the brothel You can find me in the woods with a brilliant poet. That's that's wonderful. That is my man Yeah, that is my conception of a bodhisattva as a guy who comes back and is like dude, you guys fucking suck I'm gonna fuck horse. That's my guy. Yeah, that is my jesus christ right there. That's why you're a stand-up. That's could be So jordan now things are gonna get murky or uh, who would guess the 21st does not end well For alex, uh, because in one of the commercial breaks towards the end of the show He reads an article where he's being called a racist for some of his statements that he's made about

how Boy, we've covered a lot of it in the past But what it boils down to is a lot of his ideas about how whites should flee south africa and let the blacks destroy themselves Of course, he has that idea in his head and naturally often he weeks work, uh, especially lately He's been weaving in imagery about black panther about like this great movie this idea of wakanda Very good. This idea of a black utopia. Uh, that should have been what happened without the whites there It's very dumb. Um, but love it. But some, uh Publications have been taking him a little bit out of context, but also

Again, it's what we deal with all the time is when people take him out of context. They're too generous to what he's saying Yeah, uh, they don't actually deal with the reality of what he's saying and thankfully in responding to this article That slightly takes him out of context He says one of the worst fucking things i've ever heard him say this might also be a mic down clip. Sorry I was just reading during a break Atlanta black star Alex jones says africa should have been like wakanda once evil colonists were kicked out And i'm saying according to the leftist

And then they don't tell you that at the same rent I was playing clips of the communist leader who's number three in the government the defense minister and the current president south africa saying We're going to take the whites land and we're going to kill you He didn't say that and no whites should be allowed in government. I'm just saying that's racist. That's crazy. That's stupid Whites are being exterminated in zimbabwe Rhodesia you name it The countries are collapsing once that happens And they don't show that I showed people saying kill the white farmers

Jones says whites better get out because races blacks are going to kill you. Yeah, and I played the clip you didn't So this goes back to a clip that he's misrepresenting you played a clip from from black star where it was like one two Three most effing talent quality. Uh, no, it's a clip of south african Julius malema who's the leader of the radical marxist opposition party the economic freedom fighters In the clip we've talked about this already in the past when we covered it when he played it He uh malema says specifically he's not calling for the slaughter of white people at least for now I was gonna say yeah, that was the clip that he's talking about. It's not talking about slaughtering white People there. It's talking about because he hasn't even caught up to me yet, right? And he's the marxist opposition. I know, right?

Yeah, but they're talking about an equitable redistribution of land that didn't happen after the apartheid state was ended in south africa We've been over this a hundred fucking times Now the reason that this clip to me is the most fucked up thing I've ever heard alex say is that he said quote whites are being exterminated in zimbabwe Rhodesia you name it you name it you name it you name it There's so many fucking problems name a place rhodesia whites are being exterminated there Name another place. So do you persia? Do you know still definitely not a place? Do you know rhodesia is? I like

No, you don't I I I know But I don't know if what I know is then going to be revealed to be fucking stupid Okay, I'll just I'm gonna I'm gonna keep my mouth shut before I reveal myself to be fucking stupid. I'll tell you a little story Yeah, um, so rhodesia is most recently come into the public's consciousness in 2015 Uh, because dylan roof after he shot up the black church Uh, and killed nine people Pictures of him came out

burning an american flag and also with Flags of the apartheid government in south africa and rhodesia's flag on his shirt, right? That's one of the reasons that it's been, you know, sort of brought to the public consciousness But a lot of people don't know what rhodesia actually is Rhodesia is an internationally unrecognized state that hasn't existed since 1979 It's a literal symbol of the white supremacist white nationalist movement that exists to this day Okay, and there's a reason for that. Okay. Thank god because I I was legit terrified that like when you started when you started saying like, do you know what rhodesia really is?

I was like I thought it was about white supremacist, but I yeah, is it is it a real place? Like I don't I don't know It's what is now modern days in baboi. No, that's what makes the him say whites are being slaughtered in zebois by rhodesia You name it even worse. Yeah. No, that's why I got scared, right? I was like, I thought I thought it was a very simple and straightforward concept So in 1965 rhodesia broke away from its existing status as part of the united kingdom because the uk would not recognize their apartheid government Where three to four percent it's unclear exactly where the number was in there But the white population was about three to four percent of the population, right?

And they controlled the entire apparatus of controls the government sounds correct Wars with black liberation groups have broke out all over the place and the regime Who knows why the apartheid regime employed incredibly horrific means to stay in power I can't imagine white people doing that. I found an article from The 60s in the new york times describing some of the torture that they employed electrophy I bet it was all tickling electrocuting people Heating their limbs to extremes They also engaged in rampant incarceration to black leaders never heard of white people doing that in

The government collapsed, but the racist myth of this white supremacist utopian state of rhodesia remains to this day The idea that they have is that these communist forces The black people who are like why are three percent of the population oppressively governing over us? That's a bad question. Uh, they they create this idea that if only those black assholes hadn't have been like We need rights. I know they were ruining. Uh, then they could have had a white supremacist Uh, you right utopia And then I mean for white people. Well, I mean for those white people It's unfortunate because uh, you know, you do end up with mugabi coming into the picture

um And that's that's but that's how it always winds up working and This is this is something that I've put a lot of thought into Um, because that's kind of what we need to happen here Uh, when you have an oppressive government The people it's it's the french revolution over and over and over again that we see Historically of you have this oppressive Bullshit fucking government and people are finally like we can't handle this shit anymore

And then they wind up making the same mistake that everybody else does where they go Well, this guy will help And then they get fucked over right like like that's that's our issue well-meaning leader who becomes a dictator Exactly. Yeah, you get your you get your castro out of uh, your fucking It's your it's fucking bullshit I would pause it first of all that mugabi wasn't all that terrible to begin with though he got terrible None of them are right, but I would also say that he unfortunately serves as a tool of the white supremacist propaganda about rodigia Of course because they're like if he hadn't come along with his communist asshole buddies and overthrown the white

Great government they could have been doing great there and because he did so terribly It props up their argument and you can apply that to the fucking terror right after the french revolution It's a lot of apply that to the the fucking uh, bolshevik revolution It's a lot of bull to it to so many of these fucking revolutions You fucked up and eventually people are like we need to fucking solve this problem And a charismatic leader shows up who lies to you and then discovers that power is really fucking great Now the big big problem Is that alex jones drops rodigia?

Like it's a real thing Yeah, it is not. Oh, it's not it only exists To white supremacists and white nationalists the idea that he is bringing it up as a way of saying Whites are being exterminated in rodigia Yeah, is one of the most damning possible sentences a person can make because Like even if you thought that whites were being exterminated in africa in some place You wouldn't say that no you would never say rodigia mainly because I think they should be exterminating Well, but let's put you in the position of somebody who um, isn't a hard yes on white genocide

Right, let's put you in the position of somebody who's actually an evolution I've made over the course of this show the reason that it's fucked up is that rodigia was never It was literally never accepted as a country It existed from 1965 to 1979 and the entire time was basically Just a small white minority beating the shit out of and torturing black people who demanded rights And then stopped existing The only reason to ever have it in your head is because you identify with that white supremacists

You are a fucking white supremacist if you bring up rodigia in a conversation Yeah, if it's a thing. Yeah, alex jones played himself so fucking hard there It's embarrassing and you know what's even more embarrassing media matters right wing watch all of those fucking places They don't talk about this. They don't talk about the how he brought up rodigia I got no response. You're dead on I don't either. You're right. Anyway, alex alex jones as I don't think we've ever said before Is a confirmed white supremacist. Absolutely and he's talking a lot of shit about how he's going to sue tom broke off for calling him a racist Right. Hey tom hit up your boy

Yeah I'll get you right out of that lawsuit Um, so at this point alex gets really defensive because people are calling him a racist right because these are racist I was just reading there in a break Notice that we're all under attack. We're all under attack and they're but i'm the one with black genocide dot com on and all the other groups And and and all the reverends trying to follow the black kids getting aborted. You don't see that out of the cool trendy liberal black sites led by muslims Actually, it's it's documented that blacks are attacked much more with

The syphilis vaccination all the different vaccinations blacks have been used for multiple top secret testing projects which we exposed real no you real quick All all dr. Group is rambling about there and alex is saying we exposed you exposed the tiskey Did you expose the tiskey experiment? Are you kidding me alex? Are you kidding me? How dare you? You're gonna go with that one, huh? But i'm not virtue signaling to a bunch of racist black people Any time you say you're not you are Just because a bunch of you black people out there act like you're in black kkk doesn't mean i'm gonna stoop down the level you are

You got that? But I will run my mouth against black races of south africa murdering whites in mass. Give it. I will Go ahead. Sorry Just more the reason why we need to control our stress levels and do All right, that's great. Yeah What a dick. I always love I always love those comparisons Okay, so Two white people. What is the black kkk?

Farrakhan, maybe it's the black panthers, right? Oh, like that's what they that's what the new black panthers are or whatever Nowadays, I would assume it's farrakhan. So the kkk historically Uh hung lynched murdered a Did everything that they possibly could to destroy Black people or or run them out, right, bro. The black panthers created a program to give Breakfasts to people who couldn't afford them. That's some fucked up stuff. So there we go. Now we now we have our equivalency But how is the caloric balance on that breakfast? It was actually very good

They got they got scrambled the eggs. They got a piece of toast. They fucking nailed it. It's it's the um All I'm saying hard. Yes. It's the provenance problem. Uh, like not provenance, but like it's provenance It's like where where do this like what is in response to what? You know, so like the idea of these like black kkk groups or he does this about Mexicans with like la raza and mecha. Yeah, which again are not Separatist uh racist organizations. Yeah, he's mistranslating a lot of their uh their shit But like like and he does the same thing with like historically black

fraternities and stuff like that It's like what what you're what you're not looking at is that these organizations only exist Because of the history of violent exclusion by the whites only organizations Those things would not exist if we had a history that didn't have Violent and a murderous uh segregation in it. Yeah, so We're not saying that Every white person should be punished for that history, but everyone I kind of am well You're not really you're that's that's for comedic effect. I a lot of the time

Alex should be but like uh Everyone should be aware of it and if you salute and if you're willfully obtuse to that and fight against it That means that you have some sort of underlying belief that is much more than just I want the truth out I want everyone to be fair. It's more that you're like I cannot deal with the fact that someone that looked like me Was so awful to people who didn't look like me exactly created The situation where people who didn't look like me had to create their own resources in order to protect themselves the the

the situation there is that by Defending it and denying it. You are tacitly admitting that yes, it did happen. Yeah, and you are guilty of it essentially, yeah, um, so Let's jump off this because I think we've I think we've nailed that. He's a white supremacist. Oh, yeah, I think he has Yeah, exactly. Um, so nobody incriminates alex better than alex. Yeah, he plays himself like a fiddle Um, we have one more clip here from the 21st and it's really funny in consideration that the day before he'd had this Uh, russian fixer on his show is this media fixer on his show Yeah, uh, because at the end of the show roger stone comes on and even roger god damn stone living the best life

He can possibly live knows that flatter mere pootin stole that goddamn election And alex cannot handle it. Okay Trump has no illusions about pootin. He doesn't think he's a great guy He's been briefed by the the uh, spooks who've told him how uh, how, uh, Putin rigged the election which he most certainly did. It's a socialitarian Single party system. Of course you rigged it. We're having this debate here It's a parliamentary system with like nine or ten different parties. Putin is really popular. I've read the international studies So you and david knight. I'm not disagreeing with you because I respect you guys, but but I mean I do disagree. I'm not saying

I'm sure you're wrong How is it me groveling to russia to say he won by 76 percent? I guess what i'm saying alex is that uh, you're right He certainly has his faction and it's very large police by the government But he really what he does is he oppresses the candidates trying to run against him throws them in jail Has their supporters petition carriers beaten so this point alex alex tries to pretend that like oh, it's like hillary like hey hillary didn't do any of that No, no, no, no, this is really fun. Got it. Got it. Got it again

He's just he's just fucking Loki. He's just sewing discord wherever he fucking can there is absolutely a piece of it that is like He does not give a single fuck. He just doesn't care It is it is amazing to me on many levels. I I He just comes out and he's like everybody knows this is a this election is rigged. Yeah What the fuck how dare why would you think otherwise? That's so great too. That's so great because uh God I I if if roger stone was never allowed anywhere near power and was just allowed to give interviews He would be the best

No, because he got kicked off of like fox and cnn and all that for like using a bunch of racist Terms to describe people. No, no, no, I get that call them uh equal opportunity hires and you're right. You're right I agree. I I tend to gloss over uh, the worst of roger stone because he's fucking He's a terrible monster when he when he is working Against what his when he's biting the hand that feeds He's the funniest fucking human or when he's cutting through the bullshit because he's not an idiot. Exactly. He's he knows Damn well, what's going on? Oh, yeah. No, so this brings us jordan to the end of the 21st Right, and we will get into the 22nd here in a second

But I need to yeah to reinforce my belief to anybody who isn't sure roger stone should be fucking beheaded That's fair. He is a true He deserves the death penalty almost as much as joe arpaio. Maybe 25 years in the past even yeah, exactly But we gotta take a quick intermission intermission because I gotta open up that window because it's a little hot There you go here, and I gotta go to the bathroom really quick. We'll be right back I'm gonna open up that urinary truck. We'll be back in about uh, three minutes The memory of oppressed people is one thing that cannot be taken away And for such people with such memories

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But I laugh Tomorrow I'll be at the table Hey or back. Hey, everybody. Sorry about that. Uh, you know a lot of business on that break. Uh, hey A lot of business on that break. Well, we took some bathrooms and there you go. There you go. So Jordan, like I told you We're getting into the 22nd now. Yes, and this is thursday if you're nasty thursday if you're not Because I know you need both. Nope. Nope. All right. Uh, uh rejection the 22nd is uh, uh delightful day in alex jones' uh, uh week uh this day Boy

He said a lot of stuff that's not true and a lot of stuff that uh, is very easy to poke holes in But Unusual for him, but he also ends up spending about uh, an hour of the maybe even more than that more than an hour possibly Of the show just talking to his gun buddies And so a lot of what yeah, we'll talk about it here in a second. We'll get to it here in a second I don't like gun buddies. Um, they have a lot of not even like the idea of gun buddies. I have some gun buddies I got some buddies back in missouri like shootoff guns. I mean, I'm fine with like bowling buddies I don't know about gun buddies. You've just never been to the range man. You've never been out there

I've never been to the range. You should get out there and shoot some guns. It's fun I should because i'm gonna need that skill eventually I I I don't like this uncomfortable position that I have to live in where it's like I get I get all of it I get all of it. And you know what the right answer is gun control I get all of it though too like And I'll I you know what I think that gives me a unique position to be in where I think I can call out bullshit Uh more capable regardless of its direction or more fairly. No, I can call out bullshit in a news story whenever it's like Is this actually trying to uh be oppressive or is this trying to

You know, is this benign or whatever like because you you're you're very much on the side of Hemant whereas I am like I get that a lot of people like to shoot off guns and it's fun recreationally and that's that's the Why are we already doing this? I don't need to do this right now. A couple of my friends might have even had illegal guns Anyway Unnamed people that's gonna say that's a that's a good place. That's a good place to stop right there Anyway, the reason we're talking about uh-huh, uh-huh the reason we got into guns here a little bit Is because you've been filing the serial numbers off of yours the I don't have any the main I have a vacuum cleaner over there that I could turn into one though because i'm crafty like my geiver

Okay, like richard dean anderson up in this bed All right, um, so the reason we're talking about it is because the uh varsity narrative of alex jones' show on the 22nd Is him misrepresenting a new rule that youtube has put out about gun video Yes, and we will hear his take on it and then i'll tell you what the truth is In just a moment Thanks, dan now We're gonna be getting more into all that as we go along, but the big news today and i've got

Two of the organizations banned by youtube coming on with us In the second hour today. Here's bloomberg YouTube bans firearms demo videos Entering the gun control debate. You mean entering the first amendment debate No, because they're gonna let hollywood run their trailers with all the shoot them ups. Wait, what? They're gonna put out All of their video games shoot them up All their video games shoot them up even major sports organizations are signing top video game players

On to be sponsors And to be funded because billions of people a week watch folks play violent video games on youtube alone. Sure Also on twitch. Hi guys. If you bring about that minute. Okay Sites like twitch That's us. So you think about that massive incredible A front to the first amendment that twitch is coming to espn People playing video games people playing doom and all these other games Do which is fine

Shooting people up Playing some street Death wish remakes come out and have those be youtube Your trailers with youtube getting tons of money can't allow charles bronson on the military arm not bronson It's the remake it sucks. Okay arms channel doesn't even sell guns Hold on. He just said the military arms channel. They don't sell guns They don't even sell guns. He has an interview with the guy who runs that channel later He's like he sells guns. He's like I have a gun store. Yeah

But they just show people and review them they're banned and then spikes tactical disband Because they're showing firearms all selective attacks on the first amendment all discriminatory And all part of a massive salvo launched to silence defense of the second amendment to kill gun culture To then kill the second amendment. This is the main assault and everybody better wake up and realize This is the war. It's the war baby. You're scrawling like crazy over there What's up? I'm I'm just taking a lot of notes. I know well I'm just I'm just thinking about how alex jones's conception of what the first amendment is Is inherently antithetical to his conception of what free market capitalism is

interesting Okay, so first amendment is the government cannot control speech Yes, free market capitalism part of the first amendment. There's a bunch of other stuff I mean, well to him he doesn't understand the rest of it uh, especially the journalism part and really the You're allowed to gather together no matter what no, uh, it does not understand that those parts It seems to think all the people who gather are paid to gather the ones who are paid together by the government actually Yeah, uh, and then his idea of free market capitalism, which allows you to regulate speech

In exactly the way that he is against. Yeah Those to him are antithetical and he doesn't understand that they are They are the reason that he's angry Well, one of the things like if you just want to take it to a dumb fucking way to resolve this argument There's no porn on youtube There you go. Porn is legal. Well, I know it when I see it Right, but there's no there's no porn on youtube. You like porn is legal They've decided we don't want that on our platform. Right. Do you want to take up that free speech battle?

Well, what he certainly haven't what he's mad about is that gun porn is uh being taken off right? That's essentially what it is, right? No, it's not gun videos are still cool They're still totally cool, right? I'll read to you from bloomberg. The problem is the title of this fucking article Oh, no, the headline god damn it guys name things better Think ahead the headline of the article is youtube band's firearm demo videos Entering the gun control debate and that is an absolutely unfair title based on the reality of what youtube has done Um, so here we go. I'll just read to you from this article because alex jones didn't make it to the second paragraph YouTube will ban videos that promote or link to websites selling firearms and accessories including bump stocks

Which allows semi-automatic rifles to fire faster Additionally youtube said it will prohibit videos with instructions on how to assemble firearms The video site owned by alphabets google has faced intense criticism for hosting videos about guns bombs and other deadly weapons basically what the New rules that they've come up with are if you sell guns You cannot have videos where you uh advertise those guns on our platform, right? Or if you don't sell guns, but you're supported by someone who does sell guns and link to them for direct sales You can't post those videos, right?

Also, if you are putting up videos where you show how to create a silencer Or how to create a higher capacity magazine You can't put up those videos. My personal take on this is good This is going to be impossible to enforce Of course, but good that is a that is a good rule to have you should have had that fucking a long time ago Who would a guest um, but I don't I don't know what realistic steps you can take Now alex has two guests on the internet the internet is p in a pool Right once it's in there. It's in there. Yeah, you're not gonna you're you're never going to be able to

Plug it let it Once once a leak starts you're never going to be able to plug all of the leaks and pretending that you can is A lip service at best So I get I like I support the idea that they're trying to do it But they're never going to do it the first amendment argument is absolutely out the window because they're not being arrested No, you know like that that piece of it the first amendment can control what the government Can do to you Not what a private organization can control which he should have a boner for you would think again

The first amendment is antithetical to free market capitalism and somehow he believes he supports both Um, so he has two guests on to talk about this and these are the gun buddies I was talking about they end up talking to him for about an hour worth of the show Who is it's a it's a dave and uh murder buck skeeter No, they um, they're two guys skeeter one of them. Uh, my notes were uh, not pulling up there for a second. I apologize Um, one of them is a guy by the name of tim harmason Who runs the youtube channel military arms channel who I mentioned? It's in the interview that he runs a gun store a lot of guns

So that kind of puts him afoul of the selling guns provision of youtube's new rules Where's the terms and conditions argument on that? Also? He goes into a pretty big argument about uh, how the southern poverty law center is a radical far left organization Oh those people with their law and boy do you hate to see that can't handle it Uh, and then the other guest he has is kit cope. This guy runs. That's the most Southwestern villain name I've ever heard my entire life kit cope. Well, this guy runs hit cope Is a 14 year old that can quick draw better than anybody else. I bet he can Uh, he runs a gun and uh, he got a gun maker and seller business

I don't like that out of florida called spikes tactical that that's even worse than kit cope That alex just referenced them as having their youtube channel taken down good during the day while this episode was going on I went and googled it. I found their youtube channel. It was a lot. It was up. There's god damn it These fucking ass also, uh, the military arms channel was not taken down either. I went and found that and people come from right so The issue that's bigger is that spikes tactical is an advertiser on alex jones's show Yeah for fuck's sakes the whole thing just turns into a commercial basically are you shitting me? No, it's just to So they That's shouldn't shouldn't there be a law there probably is that if you're making up a law that's

Restricting the advertiser. Well, no, you're advertising for and they come on your show saying that they're restricting Even though there's not a restriction You know what I think they're not allowed to say that there's a restriction on it I think that there's not a FCC violation because he doesn't Hide the fact that they're a sponsor Like he even plays a commercial for them in the middle of their hour-long argument about be real No, absolutely it is it's it's uh, it's a hot load of nonsense But what makes it even worse is that in the middle of cope's interview he expresses flames flames

Behind my eyes dan. He flames burning in fires in the middle. I'm gonna make it worse I'm gonna throw kerosene on you No, because in the middle of his interview, uh kit cope, uh expresses that he believes that most mass shootings are false flags And he specifically says that they use crisis actors. No Yeah The thing that alex is pretending that he doesn't support, uh, one of his sponsors comes on air and says I think you know what it's not even the shootings that we know of it. It's even more of them That sort of shit. It's fucking nonsense. It's crazy

Oh my fucking god. Also, this is somebody. Please shoot these people. This is really fun. I I'm beyond the I'm beyond the like. Oh, you shouldn't advocate that Fuck these guys on on knowledge fight. I hope they get shot on knowledge fight.com We have a link up to this you can find it there But kit cope kip cope kip cope. It's a kip cope kip kip kip. I thought it was kip for a second It's kit kip coat or kit cope kit cope. Okay Um, uh, uh a box. I need you to get that right for when you fucking shoot that piece of shit I will never do that a box of things that allow you to deal

That's uh that allow you to with like with your issues a kit of coping That's how I'll remember that first, but now I'm on board. Um, so also he got into some hot water a little while back because he created this, um Uh, let's say advertisement for his business. I don't like let's say advertisement He was like, uh, he presented it as standing up to antifa. That's already bad. The slogan was not today antifa and uh today fu The picture was four white dudes with fucking big phones. No with their backs to the camera It's not it's not a picture, but like uh, they're backs to the uh, uh, whatever the lens

And then a sea of guys in masks like we're going to shoot you down We're standing up against you and then in the corner that has boston Uh, I can't remember the other ones, but one of them that stands out charlotte'sville No, no, why is that one of your four in the list because you're a fucking white supremacist Oh, no. Oh, no, you they didn't even shoot people. Uh, fucking No, fucking christ. Oh these people No, what are they? What are they?

I I kind of a lot of shit I want to know like there's a genuine part of me that wants to be able to experience a level of empathy like not not sympathy or or understanding but like an and literal empathy of Can I see through their eyes? Yeah, and I have no ability to see the world through the way that they see it Well, it what they've created is Like for for for alex jones being like, oh, it's the video game They're the video game violence or anything like that. These people have created a literal

We didn't even get into that virtual reality that they exist in that no one else does and I want to be able to see it I promise you time. I just kind of want to stamp it out with a giant fucking boot I promise you I'm gonna explain some of it at the end of this episode in a way You will never expect and you won't all right. All right, uh, but I think that it's actually created by Nintendo well, I think I think part of the reason that you can't uh empathize is because I can't well No, I mean and I pride myself on the ability to empathize. It's difficult to because What you're trying to empathize empathize with is a completely scared And completely externalized world view like everything is a threat and all these threats are connected that that sort of world

is very difficult Um, right like if you didn't understand robocop with satire Oh, that would be yeah, that's yeah, sure or any of the movies that alex references, right? right or fair enough the The thing is if you don't fall under the sway I actually think you should empathize a little bit. I think you need to look inside yourself a little bit deeper Because what we're looking at with a lot of these people are people who have fallen under the sway of very charismatic con men They use politics as opposed to the people who have abused us in the past necessarily with religion. Yeah

And it's the same game and I feel like you should be able to take a step It might be difficult, but look at it from that prism and see how um gun protectionism white supremacy Uh, a lot of those things are their religion that they've been abused with. Yeah, and they just haven't escaped the church Because that's it doesn't it doesn't come born in you know, that's your You're right. I see where you're coming from. I think the reason I still rather laugh The reason that I can't empathize is because I didn't come from a death cult

I just came from a regular cult. You know, like that kind of situation Because what what ultimately what you're lacking in translation is they don't think they're a death cult Well, right, but death cults never think they're a death cult right and then they kill themselves right Or others so you and and or others I I would like to explore this more, but I'm not entirely sure that's gonna be a very long episode. Yeah, we're gonna into four hour territory Yeah, eventually we're gonna do a nine hour long episode of just you and I figuring out cults Turns out based on the facebook group. That's what they want They want us to do episodes not about alex jones, which to that I say

Uh, don't aid enough that jordan doesn't have to have a job and then we will and then we'll go right on into it And then we'll have a daily radio show. Yeah, but jordan I want to I want to get back to this idea that alex was spitting about the uh, like video game stuff And yeah wayish and yeah things like that He really tries to make hay out of the idea that like all we do is show people using guns Responsibly, and we're getting censored and then hollywood has people using guns Irresponsibly and video games just blasting people away. I'm not trying to say we should censor them And I agree you shouldn't try and censor them

But the problem with the comparison is he's responding to a fake version of youtube's rules and then comparing it to Fiction, uh, which makes it all meaningless. You know what I'm saying? And so I don't know it's a bummer It gets worse in this next clip where alex jones talks a little bit more about video game violence It's like it's like he's creating a straw man and comparing it to a virtual man made of straw Well, no neither of them are real. No. No. No. Well, yes I agree neither of them are real one is a straw man One is art

But what else is a virtual man made of straw fair enough Anyway in this next clip alex has some weird fucking ideas about the history of video games. Oh, no Well, now i'm not saying man video games Aren't you but they've been connected to mass shooters. They've been connected to desensitization Shoot them up games were created in the 60s during vietnam Because a lot of the soldiers wouldn't shoot somebody up close Sounds wrong. So they would have simulated targets and things that popped up and then they moved Do you have any idea talking about a shooting range? Is he does he think that a shooting range is a video game?

He has to because do you know what kind of games were around in the 60s? Like they were inaccessible to people. Yeah, there wasn't even fucking Pong. Yeah, that wasn't even there. Yeah It's absurd. Yeah Move to projections in rooms where you'd go through buildings shooting He's talking about in cop. That is where video games began doom That's one of the most popular shoot them up was developed in what the 70s and 80s Uh for the military wasn't developed. So that's a fact developed for the military. So these are in the 70s and 80s

instinctive shooting training aids A lot of punch guards to make you not have a strong killer instinct. You will be dead marine all of that All of that that's uh, that's uh That's the dumbest. That's that's dumb. That's dumb. That's a like When I hear that I hear like I just think like I wish I was in sketch comedy because like that character Well, because that character right there is a good like professor who's about to get fired character, you know, like

Like all of that is so off base in terms of just like demonstrable facts about the history of video games That's just not even When when does he even think computers were made? What is he when what does he think of computer? Ultimately, this brings me back to like What does he even think a computer is? Well, he thinks that computers were created by thomas watson in order to help the nazis All right. Well, that's that he has that in his head. He's not a big fan of touring then Also, by the way, doom came out in 1993 not the 70s or 80s

Yeah, so that's uh, that's uh, the bless you. That's a little bit of a problem with his uh, His timeline. Yeah, maybe a little bit. And niru. I played donkey kong country because I like to jump on heads I like cartoon violence when like even then the first video game was no in 1962 They had video games. Yeah, but it was like it took a giant Hyper computer it took the room that we're in to make a video game where you go No, I actually looked into it. There was a game called like space wars. I believe was the ambibious space with an exclamation point Yes, yeah, yeah Those were the days in the early 60s and it was this thing that he had a giant computer any like circular

Um, uh screen sign a little tube screen. Yeah Yeah, and it was just a blip and then you move things and like trying I guess I guess it's sort of a precursor to like space invaders Uh, right in the arcade days, but right. Yeah, I mean the Sure, that is to dehumanize you okay Good good stuff. Alex. I mean, it's it's a great. It's a great thing though If you are playing towards alex's clearly older and rural audience

Where and you all you're uh, what you're what you're doing any any to any time somebody's like video games cause violence What they're really doing is just another version of the like Millennials millennials are ruining this. That's all it is. We saw it in Columbine Yeah, I'm blaming Marilyn Manson and video games every time every time It's a fun game to play and alex is smart enough to know that like I can't play this game I have to play the I'm not playing this game and then play the game right so Good good work because because if he was if he was telling the truth and like I played uh call of duty black ops Do you remember that where you where you killed all the nazi zombies? Yeah

Oh man, I would kill so many nazi zombies. Maybe he's right. Maybe you got desensitized. Maybe I got desensitized to nazi zombie violence I can't speak to this from my own experience because most of my gaming Life has been uh like nintendo stuff and that's all yeah, but you play you play skyrim You've you've killed your fair share of uh elves and vampires Uh, pretty much you killed some elves. Oh, jeez. Tell me you didn't kill some elves, but I wasn't thinking of them as elves What were you thinking of the best because the nazi zombies? No, they had those shitty ears. Those uh, Jesus You're those underground elf races. No, I like some of the elves those underground elves elves

What were they called the the dwaymer? No, I like the dwarfs. Yeah, they don't exist The people who are all around it though those shitty assholes who are all around it. What were they called? Uh, I look I have stopped playing uh skyrim. I had my fill of it. All right, uh, but be that as it may Um, jordan, we're gonna get to this next clip We can't stick on uh skyrim for the next if you could come up with that race of uh elves that I liked killing I think I might be right. I think they were called. I think their name started with an m Uh, oh boy, we're we got to quit this show if we're gonna keep going with this. So in this next clip, alex jones

drastically over exaggerates his audience. Okay It was three percent the volunteer of the revolutionary war But if you look at the info war's audience, it's maybe 10 of the united states 30 million another 10 percent or so worldwide. That's exactly that's a conservative estimate That's a that's a conservative estimate. That's a conservative estimate 10 of the world. So 700 million people Roughly, roughly seven hundred and seventy million people. Is that what are you talking about? Conservatively conservative conservative. So that means that like Roughly a billion people. Mm-hmm. All right. That's crazy. That's

Exactly right. I think I I agree with them. That's literal lunacy And you heard that soft guitar playing in the background because this is part of I'm a big fan of the After yeah the revolutionary war. Oh, yeah Also, uh, it it bears mentioning that his uh reference to the three percent of the population was involved in the revolutionary war Is a specific reference to a group called the three percent boy. I bet it's got ties to white supremacy It might not not So on the oh god on the 20s, what are we doing on the 22nd? Alex spent a lot of the time on his show talking about

Um, how trump is putting these tariffs on uh, uh, china That's a very good thing to talk about. Well, that's a really important thing to talk about And he doesn't how that's going to affect and and all of that stuff. That's a really that's like that's a Important thing to talk about economically. He doesn't talk whether or not a trade war is really going to happen I mean when you think about it, uh As as has been reported, uh, whenever china says that they're going to put a tariff on our pork sales china owns Most of the pork market in the united states. So really what their response is is a non response

So ask yourself when you talk about tariffs if they are responding in such a way as they know that It's not really going to affect their own sales What does that mean in response to trump's saying that he's going to Put tariffs on theirs. Does he know that there isn't really a tariff there? I'm sure alex has an incisive and important commentary to make upon this Fact that we're not sure what this really means. I actually think that you I mean generally speaking I think you're you're right on but in this case. I think we're dealing with a entirely different situation. Oh, okay Um, uh, he plays a bunch of clips, uh, and streams live trump's speech about this

That's not a good idea putting these tariffs on china. Why does he do that? I would say has to know that anything trump says live is going to Is going to disavow his own actual beliefs, right? I would say From what I've been able to read uh and glean, uh, this is probably going to cause a trade war You wouldn't expect it. Uh, and and that's going to hurt the lower classes and middle class of america incredibly hard Who would have guessed it's going to be a disaster. Um, I can't imagine anything This government is doing that would hurt the middle class and the lower class one of the reasons that I I based this on is uh When it was coming up to the point of making this announcement

It was kind of like people were talking about maybe trump is going to do this Um, uh, the chinese state newspaper china daily warned quote History has shown the pinpricks of protectionism can ultimately lead to the shots of war somewhere down the line Great, that's not subtle. That's definitely something that you want a state-owned newspaper to say yeah Yeah, as a war awesome awesome. Also, jordan. Thanks guys. We need to keep into Uh consideration. This is so goddamn important Less than a month ago Xi Jinping declared himself supreme leader for life. I don't understand

That is a big move And as such anybody declaring themselves dictator for life That's just a regular. That's the course of human events dan. That's no big deal as such He can't afford to look weak. Oh no, of course not. So in in a moment where trump is uh levying these tariffs You have to assume that he's going to respond harshly Of course and now the fun part about this is that china has uh So many options of how to fuck with us without doing anything They can just slow down customs for no reason. They can increase security inspections slow down trade that way

They can levy export taxes just randomly. They can do that one of the benefits of having a An autocratic dictatorship. Yeah, they can delay paperwork Screw up boats. Oh, it's crazy. We need for we lost it. Yeah, we lost that paperwork. Where did it go? These sort of like little tiny things they can do and aren't illegal and only fuck with us Are the reasons that we are completely outgunned in terms of a trade war with china and other reasons that are much bigger But I believe some of them being the fact that we've sold most of our business to them over time Yeah, but I would also unregulated capitalism I would argue

That most likely what trump is doing is posturing to show strength and in a negotiation that will eventually end up leading us back to Exactly where we started. Yeah, he's doing that to use alex jones' terms to virtue signal To his base that he's hard on china, right? So he's doing all of these things knowing at the end it all comes back to the beginning And I think that's probably what's going on because the other possibility is a disaster. Well and the same is uh true of We don't have a leg to stand the same is true of ji zheng peng in so far as he has to Appear to be the same strong man to his dumb ass base. Absolutely. Trump has to be to his dumb ass base That's what i'm talking about with you. I just called myself supreme leader for life

Yeah, he has to present himself strong the two of them both do and and I don't I i'm not going to go down the alex jones' root of saying like they got together and figured out this was the best way to both look strong But I I would say it's more like they I don't think it well, it's it's one of those things where you talk about the difference between collusion and just Working at mutual similar purposes. Yeah, like i'm sure they talked to each other and they were like Hey, I have to do this and he was like I have to do this in response to that and they're both like Okay, cool. Well, then we're gonna do that and that was it So we've had some thoughts about the tariff that uh, trump has laid

Varyingly reported as 50 billion and 60 billion. It's it's unclear But alex has a different take on it that I find Way more troubling than any ideas about china period That they were involved in deindustrialization post industrial era. He's talking about the globalist. Sure Agenda 21 agenda 2030. It's a plan. It's public trump has wrecked it Trump knew all this before I was ever on air Trump's dad was a huge donor to john burt society. No his lawyer Roy cone was the head of the house and the senate. He ran both of them

On american activities. He was mccarthy trump's best friend was mccarthy's Power behind the throne. What does that tell you the globalists are crapping themselves? He's the opposite of a russian agent. That's why they're so scared Everything he does is for the country Everything he does is the classic default of what you do It is just mind blowing right now So before you that I I agree. I agree before you it's just mind blowing right now before you respond I just want you to keep in mind what alex jones screamed

He's the opposite of a russian agent now. Where are you at? Um All of the stuff he said is the most damning stuff you can say about trump's dad Well, I mean trump's dad like that's not a great way. Look, okay. Trump's dad was a fucking bullshit con artist Yes, trump's dad's dad was a fucking bullshit con artist like that is where they fucking come from That's their entire existence Trump's dad uh in that time frame being a large donor to the john burt society is a really troubling thing because the john burt society Was founded by fred coke Who has discussed in the past built the third largest oil refinery in the third rite?

Yeah, it was a literal nazi collaborator and also did business with stallin. Yep He is a mess and then his children the coke brothers Have created the tea party movement Yeah, if you know a school shooter or a possible school shooter point them towards wichita, kansas That's where the coke brothers live now The idea about the house on american activities committee. Oh, no, no, I've heard nothing but great things about them Jordan, I heard they did the best work. They got rid of all the unamericans Do you know don't you remember how the house on american?

Uh committee went down in history as being the most Uh great committee ever Do you know how the the mccarthy version of the house american on activities committee started? Oh, yeah, I mean it was under it was under the best intentions dies It wasn't uh mccarthy didn't run it. He just sort of ran it because he was a strong arm. Yeah, I figure He was the biggest swing and dick in the in the room Joseph mccarthy in the house on american activities committee grew out of the mccormick dickstein special committee of unac on american activities Which spent most of its time harassing left-wing organizations unions in particular

But also trying to drum out nazi influence in america. So there's a little bit of uh good stuff in there possibly McCormick dickstein got started in 1934 according to records released by the russian nkvd the precursor to the kgb As early as 1937 samuel dickstein was literally a russian spy Taking in monthly payments, uh that by 1940 had totaled about 12 000 dollars. Oh In present day 133 000 dollars adjusted for inflation The russians had a code for dickstein. It was crook. It was actually just dickstein It was crook that sounds very crooky from the enki nkvd files quote We are fully aware of who we are dealing with crook is completely justifying his codename

This is an unscrupulous type greedy for money Consented to work because of money a very cunning swindler Look, hey, hey, if your codename is crook, that's bad if the people who codenamed you crook is like This guy is a crook. He's a swindler for real That's really bad. So the special committee on unamerican activities Grew into the house unamerican activities. Have you so much decency, sir? The mccormick remember that quote right? Grew into the martin dies joseph mccarthy committee and it came out of a person who was Legitimately literally a russian spy, right when the house unamerican activities committee landed under the leadership of right-wing martin dies with

Sam dickstein on the outside. He was no longer useful to the russians So they cut off payments though. He served five more years in congress and then later served as a judge in new york Really? Yeah Really from an article and god damn it american history is filled with shit from an article in the guardian hard Yes from uh, uh, this is a quote the committee itself stumbled on until 1976 when congress finally killed it off The damage it had done to american society is still visible today For example in the almost where in the almost i can't think of any place

The almost physical horror of socialism and social democracy After all these years, it's somehow fitting to discover that it was the brainchild of a traitor It is All of the roots of the house and senate unamerican activities committee comes back to A literal traitor. Oh, and so that's why it makes it funny that alex is like this guy was McCarthy's best friend and you think he's a russian. Well, I mean the literally permitted literally 16 was a white literally Took a hundred thirty three thousand dollars from the russian Literally in the sense that we use it now to mean figuratively

No, literally in the sense that the word literally means literally he was a russian fucking agent And as far as I can tell uh barring whatever might come out about dana roerbacher uh Dikstein is Legitimately the only congress person who is it's proved was on a foreign government's payroll That's unreal like is acting as a foreign spy Unreal so now as for the house unamerican activities committee and roi kohn The history is a bit problematic

Quote in the book uh harvey Matta sow, uh, he wrote this book called false witness He claimed that he was an fbi agent who'd been paid to lie about his former friends and some of the people That he knew he used to work at a communist bookstore back in the uh, uh back in those days Oh, yeah, sea books. I remember that and some of those people were in prison because of his testimony Whereas others were black everybody gave Uh What books they could and in return received what books they needed it was a communist book hangout more than anything

Uh, um, so some of the people that he had testified against were in prison and some of them were blacklisted because of his lies He also named joseph mccarthy and roi kohn as people who had persuaded him to give false testimony Matta sow was a paid informant who'd go on to recant all of his testimony Mostly because it was all bullshit He claimed to know 126 communists who worked for the sunday new york times Although, uh, they only employed a hundred employees at that time His false testimony led to union workers being wrongly imprisoned and the black listing of many people Including folk singer pete seager

Guantanamera Waheeda guantanamera Guantanamera Waheeda guantanamera So, uh, roi kohn's involvement in that's the that's the worst betrayal To hear that seager to hear that seager was a traitor. He wasn't Um, uh, the trader heartbreaking the trader was dick steen and dick steen created the committees It became uh, the witch hunt committees of mccarthy

under the tutelage of Complete monstrous asshole ray kohn, right? Uh, and roi kohn. Uh, yeah, he is uh, trump associate Oh, that is not good for any of them. No, you know, it's not great. Also. Hey, but at least nobody knows about this Oh, yeah, a lot of people do no just ignore it. Yep. It's easy to ignore It's it's so it's the easiest the the reason it's so easy to ignore is because We want to believe stuff. Yeah Like it's heartbreaking and and the things that Alex wants to believe are more heartbreaking because well, I mean ultimately when you get down to it The history of america is the history of the worst

And and you don't want to believe that just like just like with white people and uh, you're your concept of whiteness or Or reparations or whatever it is you believe You don't want to believe that every part of who you are and where you came from led to you dominating and being Uh privy to the murder of millions upon millions of people And that's ultimately what it is, right? Like isn't that isn't that what? Being a white dude is Isn't isn't being a white dude every morning you wake up

If not conscious at least beneficiary of the fact that you have destroyed Millions upon millions upon millions of lives Like I I like how do you how do you say to yourself in the morning? I deserve what I got because or I've earned anything because collective responsibility is bullshit That's fair fair. That's nonsense Like you didn't do anything. You are not responsible for that. But at the same time i'm the beneficiary of it, right? So

You can work on that by killing all white people. Nope. That's the wrong approach. Is that the wrong approach? I feel like that's at least number two you can work on it by recognizing the arguments that People in underprivileged positions are making by listening by understanding by trying to help As best you can elevate their voices, right? Do those sorts of things that I think is the best you can do and recognize the places where you're in a social advantage because of coincidence The other stuff the guilt the like I should kill myself because I'm white That's what all these minorities want those sorts of things are all just the It's the equivalent of taking an argument to the wrongest possible conclusion

You just take it down the road way too far and you end up in in stupidville, right? I don't know Anyway, I brought up. I've never done that Never I brought up stupidville for a reason Because this sounds like a great transition about to happen our next guest We're in the middle of a great transition happening, dan We have one last guest jordan to talk about. All right, and she is Uh, an absolute resident of stupidville This person

Sucks All right, here we go. Uh, we're talking about laura lumar. She's a oh, she's a guest. She's not a caller She's a she's a guest. Oh, yeah, she's on to talk about a thing. That's not a good sign. So laura lumar, um is uh Boy, she's a problematic figure no matter where you go Even in the alt right. What about the west the alt right doesn't even like her. Oh, that's All right, so now Kind of hoping to see what she's got to say. I found a bunch of articles That I don't laura lumar. I know her name. She's been on before

She's talked about how all muslims are terrorists. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. I know her name as the the more boring type of Monster we deal with she was stalking hillary clinton for a little bit to gong dollar book signings and trying to fuck with her Being like, yeah, where's huma? All right. All right. Um, but also I think david letterman had stalkers It's fine. I found a bunch of articles that like I don't fucking know how to even deal with this But like apparently kassandra fairbanks and lauren southern We're accusing laura lumar of raping a dude I have no idea how to engage with this because everything is too like I don't I don't know words I don't know what's going on and not because it's a woman being accused of raping a man

That's absolutely does happen, but it's just because those characters into that like I don't know what to do with there's a there's a strange triangle going on there In fact, and I it moves beyond triangle and starts going into like trapezoid territory and and quite frankly I care not to engage whatever the reality of that stuff is Is absolutely outside of the scope of our uh, right right right what we were interested in is that she is a monstrous islamophobe she sucks So hard right truck hitter. She's been spending she's been spending a lot of time

Trying to research the uh, las vegas shooting Uh, and you used a lot of words like research and those are bad words when it comes to these people No, no, I gotta give her one tip of the cap. Uh, like legitimately She's said a bunch of bullshit. That's absolutely not true But she did make a video that demonstrated that she could get into the freight elevator at that hotel And great. No it it it is good work No, it is it is telling on some level because the people at the hotel had said that no one could get access to the elevator that would lead From the ground floor the employee elevator to the 32nd floor where uh, the shooting took place

Okay, and she demonstrated that you could that could be okay beyond that fair enough the other conclusions that she makes And a lot of other stuff is wild bullshit conspiracy nonsense. All right unfortunate. That's an unfortunate development But that meh. All right You showed that all right, great should send that to uh the hotel Tell them to beef it up

Beef up that secure give them give them a call. So anyway go through the proper channel I've always wanted to do this So I'm gonna do this as if I was do like writing a tweet. Okay. I've never been able to wait You're gonna write a tweet on air. I've never been able to do like meme stuff. So I'm gonna I'm gonna play out a meme I I don't like the way you pronounce that word. So today it's pronounced So today um, laura lumar comes on uh, alex jones' show to Talk about uh covert investigation. She did into Gotta check my notes here

hmm To to our listeners who are not watching the live stream Dan looked at his hand the parkland ironically No No In the next segment but tell folks about this Yeah, so I conducted a hidden audio staying on the parkland and uh, well the park real quick

Laura lumar used to work for james o' keith uh for project uh Fucking course she did and so I think she got some of her tricks from him and we'll see that here in a second Parkland organizers here in blarda Because as you know today, they're departing for dc for their really big march for our lives, which is going to be a three or four day uh, you know palooza of Liberals just gathering together in dc to protest trump and protest the nra and rally to take away our guns And so they held this meeting and uh a representative for the gifords foundation who is also a teacher and rarer

Real quick the gifords foundation is uh a foundation That's run by gabriell giford. No gabriell gifords gabriell gifords. What? Uh, the formerly gavilly. No gabriell Different. Oh, no gabriell gifords the gifords. Uh, that uh, the lady who was shot in the fucking head Oh, yeah in 2011 in arizona. Yeah, she's a christie guy Christie's a crisis actor. Oh, yeah, probably. Okay, probably. All right, sounds right. She got shot in the head And then what other people seem to forget about that event is that the guy just kept shooting Um, can't remember that the federal judge don't understand a nine year old kid

What are you talking about killed uh four other people beyond that six people total No, i'm i'm not sure what you're talking about straight up tried to assassinate gabriell gifords Shot her straight in the head Someone miraculously survived. Oh, and then since then has uh dedicated her life to trying to uh figure out a way that we can Have more sensible gun control measures Yeah, good fucking crazy good fucking craziness that the gifords foundation would be involved With these parkland kids sounds crisisy sounds insane Also, it bears mentioning that the guy who did the uh the killing in uh in arizona in 2001

He was a guy whose name, uh, is uh, excuse me a second Uh, but but but jared lee lachner Lachner i'm giving him a bro. Yeah, you are. I don't understand why that's happening. Um, he's a guy who also unfortunately left a Bunch of blog posts in his wake after he died Unfortunately that carry a bunch of info wars kind of rhetoric Uh, he says stuff like quote the government is brainwashing people by controlling language Sounds right. Sounds a lot like alex sumerian Anyway, it's not weird at all that uh, the gifords foundation is being involved and trying to help out provide ground support for

Children that don't know how to organize Interstate rallies of their own Uh, it's fucking nonsense, but this gets worse county was caught on camera saying Uh, well an audio saying a lot of really disturbing things telling the students to make sure they have their talking points ready So that they get as much media coverage as possible and influence politicians I want to just talk about that really quick I think that's more an issue of

Uh, them preparing students Who are 16 17 years old to know There's going to be people fucking with you. Yeah Here are the talking points You don't want to go on tv and act like an asshole and then become a laughing stock This wasn't a concern that people needed to have 20 years ago 15 years ago, but now there's such a manipulative Uh, like, you know, you that sort of stuff with the sandy hook people who are like this guy was laughing right before he came on and gave his speech

That's proof that he's fake Like you don't want to have those bad optics moments and I don't think it's suspicious at all that this lady Uh debbie miller is her name. She's a teacher. Um, it doesn't matter It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't it doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter. Jordan. You're not ready for what's going on I'm not ready. I'm not ready. It just doesn't it doesn't matter You're responding like this if you prepare them. It doesn't fucking matter. They're gonna go after you It doesn't matter what reality is it doesn't matter if every single fucking thing you say is right on target because they're going to lie about it And even if you say everything perfectly, they're gonna pretend that you didn't say it perfectly

They're just going to create a whole Separate fucking reality Where and they pretend that whatever it is that the fuck you said wasn't the same thing It's it's insane. We don't live in a world where reality fucking matters Matter Reality is gone. Jordan the concept and like I don't even fucking care. Why would you even teach these kids? PR fucking skills whenever they don't even They don't even realistically matter. It's for the best. It doesn't matter

They could come out and poop in their fucking hands and then eat it and they'd be like, well, that's fucking bullshit Like it doesn't matter. That's a sign. They're uh, it doesn't matter It doesn't matter what we it's not going to change anything Like why are we putting it on these children to actually fucking know a goddamn thing? Whenever adults should fucking show up. Why aren't adults showing up? Everybody is wondering. Everybody is wondering I'm sorry, Dan. I'm doing a time out hand gesture because What you're screaming about why aren't parents and adults showing up? Is the giford's foundation?

They are showing up to try to help because she got shot in the fucking head I know and is trying to help. I know it's just it's just it I don't understand. I'm not I'm not trying to I'm not trying to quell your passion. No. No, I know. I know I know I know I'm saying the the giford's organization And this lady who laura loomer has caught on video Are manifestations of adults who are trying to help these kids? Express themselves

Accurately right sincerely and in a way that's not going to hurt them for the rest of their lives, right? Here is the only thing that I feel about what's going on with especially in regards to Parkland all of these kids are saying very Very reasonable things And it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter if they said unreasonable thing

It doesn't matter if they said reasonable things. No my point continues to be Why are we preparing For what these people are going to say I mean the what the right the weird uh these weird ding dongs. Why why bother? Why bother acting like we need to have a pr strategy for when they attack us No, no, no matter What you say here's why it matters. Okay, because they're kids Who cares no, no, no because they have the rest of their lives in front of them. Who cares they don't

No, no, no, I mean let's face it Jordan. None of us do Jordan This meeting Uh ostensibly is a teacher in Broward County talking to students Right, uh that are going to go on this what I would assume is a field trip slash protest rally They have a responsibility as adults to be like I don't think that when they're talking about talking points. It's like

You say this you piece of shit, right? It's more like Stay on message Right. Do you agree with this? If not, you don't have to do this. Keep in the pocket When people are when people are throwing punches keep your keep your uh gloves up Know that we live in a media landscape now that they're going to be people who are going to and the She doesn't even play it on the show, but in one of her undercover videos She's like uh the the Broward County teacher debbie miller says uh There should not be any kids

alone And I would say even if it wasn't where you're going there shouldn't even be any fucking adults alone Well, but like even if it wasn't that it's a field trip basically there's a bunch of people going with the Hey, she might as well have said use the buddy system. Don't be unshaperone. Yeah, there's some 16 17 year old kids who are going to dc They're hopefully trying to make the point that they want to make As supported by the gifards organization run by a woman who has shot in the fucking head Here is here is my argument against that which is that

Who Fuck i'm sorry. I'm sorry. My argument against that is just Who fucking cares it doesn't it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. There's no right There's no longer a conversation. That is not a thing that is possible So if you want to if you want to say we should get rid of all guns everywhere in the history of ever We should go back in time and get rid of the guns that they had during the american civil war Or the american revolution. It doesn't matter. No one gives a shit because the people the people who care about guns Are going to twist and turn

Anything. Oh, shit. You say it does not matter. They need to be gone I forgot to tell you one of the most fun things about this. Yeah, that uh, that whole youtube band that was going on Uh, for the like the the gun the gun videos. Oh, there's the gun videos There's this guy who makes really fun slingshot videos out of germany. All right, uh, like I like Slingshots are fine. I'm I'm all for slingshots. And so he constructs guns and he's concerned that like his rights are going to be encroached and like I'm constructing guns Could you say this in a german accent? That would make me feel better. No, uh, I'm not alex. I don't do shitty accents Uh, he but his response. How would bernie say it though?

No, uh Is uh, his name was jorge something and uh, his response to it was We should unionize Yeah, which is jesus, which is a reasonable or like idea Oh, that's two worlds colliding that alex could never deal with a guy who makes gun construction videos on youtube Could never conceive of dealing with we are creators for youtube. We should unionize We should make a union because they're encroaching our ability to make gun videos on youtube now think about this The only arguments that alex and his ilk have at all in terms of remedying this is either

unionizing or putting regulations on a business They have to go against themselves in order to anyway, we were yes. All right. We're off topic. We're off topic. We need to get back I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm furious. Laura loomer sucks. Uh, and it will cause us to get off track surprise Jordan is furious. I hate her so much. Yeah She told the students that uh, the jews control the politicians in washington's. They also have anti-semitism

Along with uh left-leaning bias and then she uh, she said, oh, this is super off the record You guys who don't repeat this and then told the press who are in the room not to listen But uh, they don't even have the proper permits to have a march You have to have permits in order to have a march on capitol hill and the gifords foundation Which is tied to gabby gifords, you know the congresswoman who was shot in the head in arizona and now uh, you know promotes gun control Failed to acquire proper permitting. So they're having a rally and this teacher literally

Try on audio encourage the students to break the law and storm the white house and march to the white house and raise hell So, um the permits permits permits dan permits are really important Permits are really important to the people who are fighting against getting shot in the head But the people who shoot people in the head aren't really concerned about fucking permits. Now are they She just messed to the being shot in the head a little bit being shot in the head part Who doesn't get shot in the head a little bit of a toss. Hey, this is 20 This is 2018. Who doesn't give a shot in that fucking head. So, uh, god

Damn it. I watched all this. You can't you can find it on laura lumars youtube channel if you want. Um, it's Very boring. Uh, it also is very selectively edited in the same way that james o' keith's Uh project veritas videos are strange But that I will give laura credit in as much as she allows full sentences to happen I won't just sometimes they end up, uh, leading into other sentences that are unrelated I don't I don't give her a god damn bit of credit. So the I want to address first of all the permit situation Oh, you gotta have permits to you know, like if you listen, if you've ever read the first amendment Permits are huge. That's part of the first. Oh huge in the first huge in the first bed. We have a we have a

Like understanding of civil order and if you want to organize somewhere and you're gonna right it is for the best Oh, and I I'm not I'm not coming down on that What uh debbie miller in this video is saying is that they were unable to acquire a permit not that they failed to acquire attempt to a permit. Yeah, they failed to be given one strange which is different It's slightly slightly different can't understand why but they have a permit to have a rally So what they're going to do is have a rally And then she says with a kind of winking voice If we all leave the same direction

Yeah That sort of thing But I would argue fucking people but I would argue I've been to A hundred goddamn rallies in my life. That's how they all go Pretty much everyone kind of just uh, are we going this way? All right. There we go. Yep. Yep Uh, that's not and that happens on the right too. That's not like a left-right thing if you like Permitting is such a stupid piece of uh, this uh, right this argument I I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that like in some kind of uh, like flippant defending this protest not defending other

ways like I mean when the kkk has a permit to have a rally All right, good luck. I I I'm the I think I'm fine with that I think it comes about well, it's one of the things that I'm not fine with it, but my my girlfriend who is a teacher in the cps when she was talking about the Uh walkout that the students were going to have for the parkland shooting where they were like

Everybody needs to fucking do something about this shit. The administration of the school then said Okay, awesome. It's our idea. We're all gonna have a walk out. We're gonna do 17 minutes of silence We're gonna do the whole thing and trying to own it at that point. You're like, well, then what the fuck is this for? Okay, great. So the people who are complicit in this shooting happening are going to lead a Pointless meaningless protest and then everybody's gonna go back to school the next day. Yeah Like who fucking cared and I think that's the grander conversation Yeah, the shit conversation is the like. Oh, you didn't have a fucking permit your student or or Your uh school is sorrows operated right because they were fine with the right, right, right

No, no the the the grander conversation is like the the real conversation is Why is anybody going to school? There you go period Why are you look every day you go to school your school gets money every day your school gets money Your school is more susceptible to getting fucking shot up Everybody should fucking shut this Shit down period I like frankly like I don't even want to go to work like it's it's a real thing where it's like if we all

Could just fucking pause and we can't do it. We can't do it because we all have to fucking eat Well, we could and that's the system that we live with it. Well, that's called. That's called aggressive capitalism That's called aggressive. It's called the free market. We can't live in a world where a union a Real union is fucking Everybody well and that's not a world that we can ever that comes back to the dicksteen shit All right, and there you go. The the consequences that have come from that. Oh god damn russian spy trader Created this uh visceral disgust that we have

In the name of patriotism and protecting america he created unintentionally or intentionally a complete disgust about the idea of social uh Democratic like socialist democratic shit and uh lingers to this day And we just got to fucking find a way to deal with it. Anyway, all right, dan The worst part about that clip. Oh, we got another clip. No the clip. Oh, we just listened to Was her saying that this teacher debbie miller claimed The jews run the politicians. Well, yeah, but who hasn't claimed did you forget that? Do we need to listen to it again? No a bit again dan

That shit just Flows off me at this point. Like at this point. I'm like, oh well Who doesn't claim that the jews run the politicians? Let me see if I can cut back to and find it here real quick The jews control the politicians in washington's he also right. I I did that amazingly That was I'm that was perfectly. I'm thrilled. You fucking nailed that So I went and pulled the clip that she's actually talking about right when she says that the jews run the politicians This is from laura lumers own youtube video when she clearly proves that she said that the jews run the politicians Now this is a mic down moment. Okay

It's not gonna rain on saturday, so yay I wouldn't say something about the politicians that the jews were in charge of weather so But that's not right That's what debbie miller said You heard that I would say something but they say the jews are in charge of the weather, but that's clearly not true No, that's not what she said. That's a legit joke. That's not a good joke. That's not even what she said It's not a good joke. That's not even what she said She said I would say something about that politician

That said the jews ride ride ride ride This is a reference to tray on white a dc councilman who recently said and I quote It started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man Y'all better pay attention to this climate control man this climate manipulation That's a model based off the ross child's controlling the climate to create natural disasters They can pay for their own in these cities man. Be careful She's making a joke about this guy who said this A week ago. Yeah, this isn't it's not a great joke

Still a good joke. It's a solid. It's a solid bit. She's playing to the crowd This is why this is a great joke. Why is it a great joke when debbie miller made that joke at that meeting? It was a joke. Yeah, it's like there was like you could hear laughs because people had read that story She got a medium response. There's there people who had read that story and they understood what she was talking about and like, ah, that's funny Yeah, uh, it's funnier Because lora loomer was there. She was not fucking there. She she was at the meeting secretly recording it That's how she has this audio. She was secretly recording all this So she secretly recorded all of this then

took it Then misrepresented it on alex jones' show Where they accused debbie miller of making anti-semitic remarks about how the jews run politicians Which isn't even close to what she said on a show Where alex jones has absolutely accused the roth childs of heaven weather weapons But that's that's my fucking point. It doesn't matter. Why coach them? No, this guy tray on white absolutely was inspired by info wars Like I know he's I know whether it's info wars period or a info wars

Like surrogate site. It's he's inspired by that Let me make clear what my point is is that Why bother? Why bother pretending that there's a world where you can coach any pr person Into saying something that the right wing won't turn into lunacy right right like she's no in a perfect world She nailed it. That was a solid bit in a perfect world There's no explanation for why you would give a fuck about these people. These people need to be left behind Nobody should ever ever ever think like that's that's what I get

That's what infuriates me about the idea of a centrist democrat. Let everybody go They are gone if you are somebody who is concerned about what somebody might Misconstru what you said into thinking if you're somebody who's like, oh well the southern poverty law center said this and so Who cares they need to go put forth an actual progressive fucking idea and let it go Say it say it real say it loud People should not be ashamed people should not pretend that there's a third way People should not pretend that you need to say things in the middle. There's no middle There's these people who are fucking trying to murder us all and then there is the fucking rest of us

It is the middle is trying to live The middle is trying to survive the coming fucking apocalypse. I don't want to sign in the middle I don't want a fucking spending bill that is a compromise between the it's they're gone. They're dead They're fucking dead to us The idea that we should find a middle ground the compromise doesn't exist when the other side wants your debt The compromise does exist With the very very rare people who are just conservative That compromise does exist, but unfortunately we live in a world where

You know we talk about the overton window so much and it's pulled so goddamn far to the right that I mean, you know, like it's basically compromising with the center. Yeah to some extent That's the that's the battle that you have is compromising with the center Whereas people who actually identify as on the right are they're fascists at this point. Yeah, like it's and you know what I imagine that There's a hypothetical world that exists where Things went a different way And that maybe things went too far into socialism or something like that in our country got too far down some road and we had a

We had a uh, yeah, there's a lobbyist Like leader who had taken us down that dark path. There's tons of Alternate realities where anti fascism goes too wrong. Well, no, we're we're too far against fascism I'm not saying that Always fighting fascism is great. But like always punch nazis, right? But like there is a way There is a way that liberalism and leftism is exploited also Like uh, right with communist governments in the past and like right if we want to go back to the uh,

Alex jones's shitty rhodesia metaphor like when mugabi went bad Like there is a point where like things are going that way And then I imagine there are people who are on the right who are like I am only able to compromise with the center. I can't compromise with the right the actual left that exists now But unfortunately that is not our reality. That is a hypothetical reality. Well, that's and that's that's my Uh, I have a long-standing beef Uh with anybody who uses the word populist Right because the king populist is not an

It like the the word populist is always associated with that fascist leader that shows up Man with your mugabi not always fascist to begin with but becomes it exactly That's what your populist is associated with it always always winds up being that like it's like it's it's the I It's the conception. No populist is shorthand for cult of personality. It's all it's all just uh, it's it's that nonsense It's it's the I care about you, but it's the I in that sentence. That's the most important right I care about you Oh, man. They don't care. You're getting real close to knowing what's up. Yeah. No, I mean that's no, I know that's but that's Like when we talk about

Those those concepts and those ideas the destruction of them always winds up being in the misassociation uh, or Might be a word the the association with populist to the dictator that arises from it Right like they the idea that if Bernie Sanders had won the democratic nomination and become a the president He would have then become mugabi right like that's the idea of populism that people associated with And it is always it always comes back to that People done fucked up so bad that they're willing to do anything other than what's going on right now

Yeah, and that's where where do we get trump? Like the idea of a populist trump is not a populist. Oh trump is a fucking con man. Yeah Fucking Exactly exactly like our entire show is a demonstration of him being a victim of a con man It is a constant It is a constant reinforcement of The idea that we should let these people fucking Go no we we shouldn't we shouldn't I don't know I kind of think we should

I kind of think we should I don't know I think we should drag them because there's They're not there aren't all right. All right. Never mind. I'm gonna let this go. All right. I just I don't I don't even think I don't I don't think I can inclusion. We're gonna come to you know what? I really don't even think I can coherently make my point right now. Let's let's so I apologize Let's scream each other off air because we're done with the urious and I'm not nailing it We're done with the clips and lauren southern who is not on this episode can go fuck herself But all I can say is that she can go fuck herself, but also laura loomer Uh, they have the same first name for the first like five letters

But you can check out our show uh Oh my god, are we done? I feel like I I did not dismount well I feel like I dismounted like well now's your chance. Be better. Do it quick. Is it your boy got a power. All right. All right Here's my dismount. Um Well Kill the rich so that's my wait that I did it Um, if you want to kill the rich go to our website knowledge fight dot com We're also on twitter knowledge at knowledge underscore fight where you can also kill the rich you can follow us

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