Knowledge Fight - #142: March 23, 2018

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

Today, Dan is joined by "Fill-In Jordan" Matt Riggs to discuss the March 23rd episode of the Alex Jones Show. Today we learn that Roger Stone has convinced Alex that Trump hiring John Bolton is totally cool, that Alex is worried about getting bullied by a high school student, and that Silicon Valley is a conspiracy.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan sitting in as a replacement. Jordan today. Well, Jordan is off in California on vacation. Matt Riggs. Hello. Welcome back to the show, Matt. Thank you. It's been a while. It has. Good to have you back. Let me ask you, have you learned anything about Alex Jones since you've been on last? Just stuff that's been in the news. I haven't been watching the show as much lately. So it's safe to say that I know a lot about Alex Jones and you still know very little about him. Yeah. I don't know if I've told you this. I've

told other people this. Every time that I have been here, I usually leave sad. Yeah. And this time might be no different. That is something that is one of the, and I get this from listeners sometimes too. Like, I like the show, but this is depressing. Yeah. Yeah, it's sad. Yeah. I know. Sorry. It's not so much him because I know that he's just in the vein of like a Rush Limbaugh or whatever. He's just a character spouting nonsense so he can make money more or less. But it's the people that are out there that believe it. Like I knew a guy that believed that he's no longer with us and it's, there's no conspiracy. He just died as far as I know. But he would like fluoride. He'd put up like info wars, like stickers and stuff and had one on his car and whatnot because there's a

war on for your mind. Okay. You can have it. Yeah. I don't, that does bump me out too. It's something that I struggle with, but you know, you got to keep moving forward and it's, you know, I think that there's plenty of stuff that's at least, I can't make an argument that this is fun at all. Yeah. Well, you do it a lot. The older I get, the more I'm kind of like, I don't really care what happens. I'll just find my little pillow and whatever is going on and just until I die. Sure. Yeah. So whenever, whenever the shit comes, you'll just take a nap and go out with the world. Whoever I'll put a hand up, whatever it's fine. Yeah, I don't care. Yeah. Anyway, what am I going to change? Well, I mean, I think you can, I don't know what you can change. I hope, I hope you can,

I mean, look, here's the deal. It's the children's job now. I will say that I had a thought and I lost it. Cool. It's always good. All right. Well, I have a thought that I'm not going to lose and that is I'd like to give a shout out to a new donor. A new policy wonk joined up with the team and we very much appreciate. Thank you. Thank you so much out there. Mike C. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. We appreciate it very much. If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself, you can go to our website, knowledge fight.com, click the support the show button and then you'll be a policy wonk. Do it. It's a simple deal. It's that easy. I know I've got a lot of friends that support the show. It's great financially. Is that right? I don't

know if you do. No, I just guessed I had some. I don't think so. None of the people that know. No, maybe, maybe a couple, but it's mostly, uh, mostly people we've never met. Well, you're my friend now. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Uh, something that's not very cool is Alex Jones's behavior on this episode. We're going to be talking about today. What? You're kidding me. I thought it was maybe you took a day off and just showed YouTube clips. Nope. Uh, we're going over, uh, today, uh, Friday's episode March 23rd, 2018. Yeah. And, uh, you know, it's the end of last week and, uh, I usually try and move on to the, you know, this week as we, because this, this episode's coming out on Monday and I don't want to dwell in the past of last week. Uh, but there's enough

important news that had come out that I think it's relevant. Can I ask you this? Cause I, I don't keep up with Alex Jones, but I do keep up with the news. How much is he still talking about? Yeah. People are people in the chat room like to know what the novelty beverage is. It's a sparkling ice mountain black cherry. I don't like it. I hope to like it by the end of the bottle. You and Jordan are anti ice mountain and I do not like it. First of all, I enjoy their regular water. I just, I'm not a fan of the fizzy water. Let's find anyway, how much is he still like a big shill for Trump? Oh, a hundred percent. So this whole stormy Daniels and all this other stuff for just stormy Daniels will not come up, but yes, that is his position that it's the globalist

attacking him and what have you. Um, uh, he did make a video that came out on Saturday over the weekend, uh, where he pretends that he's turning on Trump because he signed the omnibus spending bill. Everybody hates it now, but it's just Alex being like, Oh, let's turn on Trump instead of the globalist to a really respond. I'm like, all right. Oh, so he's mocking more of like the Fox news and altars then. Yes. Okay. He's sort of given them a little bit of the business. I appreciate any glimpse of reality that those people want to show. Like when Tucker Carlson was like, when Trump was like, well, let's just take their guns and then deal with it later. And he's like, if Obama said that, uh, we'd all be really mad. I'm like, what? Have you not heard

every person say that for the last year and a half? Yeah. Alex, uh, his take on that was that it's a Machiavellian move trying to lure people into the open in order to shut down gun registration and gun laws. I've been in writer's rooms. These guys are good. They're pretty good. Yeah. The, uh, the sort of ability to do backflips, uh, with reality. Uh, but you know what? In a writer's room, you might also have someone pitching impressions. Like if it's a comedy show, and here's an out of context drop from today's show that shows some of that. And all the games they play, Bernie Sanders, me like Venezuela. I said, I got your calls. I apologize. I'm

kind of the beginning and end we're good. The weird. Oh, it was weird. Uh, yeah. That's we, we just like to catalog every time he breaks out his Bernie Sanders impression. It's very important. So today, uh, like I said, there's big news that happened on Thursday and that's why the Friday show is sort of important to cover. There's no booze in this, right? No, no, it's just water. It has an aftertaste of booze. Uh, nope. That's, uh, that might be just your perceptions. Uh, you will be stone cold sober, uh, at the end of this. Uh, so, uh, what happened on Thursday, I think that is most important is that they announced, uh, that HR McMaster was going to be out as national security advisor. He was going to be replaced with John Bolton and this

should be a big red flag for Alex. Yeah. This should be a very like I'm out kind of moment because John Bolton is a, uh, notorious war monger. He is someone who was very in favor of the Iraq war. He is someone who, uh, helped push that through fake intelligence. He's also still in favor of the Iraq war and is kind of very publicly made the argument that, um, the problem was we didn't stay there long enough. We weren't aggressive enough. Yeah. His, his president said the opposite while he was running for president. You mean Donald Trump? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's very, uh, counter. And the other thing that's, uh, uh, alarming is that, uh, there's an article in the intercept

that just came out on Friday as well, after the, this news started to break. Um, and it's, it's discussing how, uh, the John Bolton eight months ago gave a speech to a group of Iranian exile, uh, people, uh, called the people's Mujahideen, uh, who, uh, they, they, a lot of some people, namely John Bolton, believe that they're a viable alternative to the regime that is in power in Iran. And he basically told them that, uh, the Iranian revolution, uh, Ayatollah Khamenei's revolution in 1979 will not last till its 40th birthday, which would be the beginning of 2019. Yeah. So that is sort of him telling this Iranian separatist group, uh, that, uh, we're gonna topple them by the end of 2018. So Alex shouldn't be thrilled with any of this. You know, he should

be very against, cause he's, he always talks about, I don't like nation building. I think we should stay out of other people's business. Um, and now we have someone, uh, going in as a national security advisor who's clearly in favor of war with Iran, among other places. I like SimCity. SimCity's great, but I don't like nation building. No, no city building or a roller coaster park. Do you have a tycoon? Sure. I'll do that. Are you an Iranian regime tycoon? I'd love to send them that over there. Sure. Um, so you might be surprised to hear Alex Jones's take on, uh, John Bolton. I'm not surprised by anything because they're all just bullshit artists. Of course. Of course. We got Roger Stone popping in, uh, to give us his take on Donald Trump's new national security

advisor, Mr. Bolton, who a lot of people really don't like, including myself, good start, because he still pushes the failed Iraq war and other things like that. But the word is on Bolton, he knows all the connections. He knows all the players in the state department, in the UN, in the Pentagon, and that he will be an apparatchik or a tool, a, you know, effective munchkin to use his words to carry out the policies that the president wants carried out, and then he won't sit there and leak information. Cool, cool, cool. So this is just Roger Stone telling Alex what, like, all right, here's the talking point and Alex running with it. That's basically what's going on. When will people realize that the person leaking the information is the guy that some of

the country elected as president? He's the one that he can't stop telling his friends everything, and that's how the information is getting out. Yeah, it seems like that might, that might be part of the game. Yeah. Uh, you know, hey, why don't you tell people this? I'll complain about somebody telling people this. And then we can change the news cycle instead of things that are legit. Exactly. There'll be, there'll be sort of palace intrigue and who's snitching on who games being played instead of important issues. So that you'll notice Alex uses the word apparatchik in there. I did, I don't know what that means. Basically, it's just a function area tool, like I use you as an instrument of my will. Okay. And it's only interesting because

it's a word that's very specific. And Alex uses it later when talking with Roger Stone, it's clear that that's a Roger Stone word. He's just repeating. Yeah. But be that as it may. I don't mind that. I feel like the president should use people that way, like bring people that have strengths to use them in their apparatchik ways. Sure. But that's not what's going to go on. That's that's not what's going to happen. It's going to be a disaster because Halliburton needs more money. But that also might be what Trump's agenda is. And Alex might be blissfully obtuse about that. He might be willingly obtuse about the idea that like, Oh, wait, he's bringing he's bringing this guy in to, to, you know, get his thing done. If you're bringing in John Bolton, it's pretty

clear what your thing is. Uh huh. But you know, hey, McMaster is a leaker. He's leaking stuff. Sure. And in his next clip, Alex explains how McMaster sealed his own fate. The fact that the word is he's the leaker on Chief of Staff Kelly saying, don't congratulate Putin. And then Trump being president again, going into what he wants to, Obama congratulated Putin on his election. You can argue he keeps himself in state power, immediate power, that political power. So people believe in him and vote for him. But it's, it's, they don't call the communist Chinese dictator a dictator when he is appointed by the communist party. And now for life, for life, he had them make him a dictator

and even strip their powers. So the media won't call him a dictator. Cover of all the pay, all the papers this weekend when his vice president became co-dictator, they said, Oh, he was elected. And you'd read the whole article and never tell you by the Politburo, by the central committee. So little things like that get in my head. It's not about defending Putin or saying he's perfect. I'm just tired of the lies. Vladimir Putin is not a dictator. A strong man, yes. A loved strong man. Oh, wow. Had to throw that in at the end just for fun. Would he have been saying this two years ago? What do you mean? About Putin?

Yeah, two years ago. Yeah. Cause he was still super pro-Putin. Maybe five years ago. No. Yeah. I do not believe so. But pre-Trump, he was pro-Putin. Well, in our 2015 investigation into why Alex joined team Trump, we found concurrent, very strong pro-Putin sentiments. And I'm not sure where they came from because he was pretty Russophobic for quite a while. And I'm saying that Obama congratulated Putin. He did privately. Yes. But also that was in 2012. That was a very different time. Yeah, I agree with that. The world was a little bit different. There wasn't the whole Crimean crisis happening yet. There wasn't very clear evidence of hacking elections and what have you.

So that kind of falls flat. And the game of like, hey, why doesn't anyone call the Chinese guy a dictator? Why you got to point the finger at both? We can do that. We can say that. Sure. I got no problem. I'll do it right now. Point. Hope you're watching both of you. Yeah, that's right. Putin and Xi. Xi Jinping. Look at that. I'm not that informed. So in this next clip, we can get to something that you are a little bit informed. Should I start yelling? I feel like I should start yelling. You could yell at any point you like, but what am I doing? Oh, no. Now Jordan's going to think that's an impression. Yeah, it is. Oh boy. Of you.

Um, we'll get, we're now we're going to get to something that was a little more familiar to you. And that is Alex is mad about some comedy figures. No, no, because he thinks that they're coming at him inappropriately. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see what you think about it. There's been a new sickening attack by Stephen Colbert and the main star stupid Hollywood term of Silicon Valley misrepresenting what I said about Silicon Valley. What I said, I think I even went shooting with that guy once with Mike judge. I think I think I met that guy as if I was attacking him personally. I thought he meant Thomas Middleditch. Thomas Middleditch. That's even a real name. It is. I was pointing out that the cover of the magazine

talking about the triumph of beta males was globalist propaganda. So again, they always just turn everything around that. Oh, I'm attacking the poor actor. No, I was attacking the push of beta males. Okay. So there was a magazine cover with the cast of Silicon Valley on it. And it's a real stuck up in his craw because he believes that it has to do with making it cool that dudes are becoming pussies. As he would say. And Thomas Middleditch went on Colbert and they kind of made fun of that idea. He's going to talk more about this so we can leave that aside for now. Unless you have any immediate responses. Well, I just know he's very anti Jordan Klepper. I heard some of that.

He doesn't like being made fun of, sounds like. He's a little bit of, he's a little sensitive. Yeah, there's no doubt about that. But what's interesting to me that I find the most fascinating is that whenever he gets made fun of, he creates a fake version of what people are making fun of and then gets mad about that. No, instead of like just being like, you hurt my feelings, which is really what he's manifesting. Sure. There's, there's just a, a childish wham to it. But I don't know. Do you think Thomas Middleditch is a fake name? No, no, I don't. I don't know why you would pick that if that's your name. I checked his IMDB page, his Wikipedia page. It says his name is Thomas Middleditch. Yeah. I know that he came up in

Chicago and that was his name when he was here. Yeah. Before he was on TV. I don't know. I got a strong feeling that that may be his real name. It seems like all indications are that his name is actually, but what is it with Chicago people making fun of Alex Jones? You got Klepper came out of Chicago. I didn't know that. Eric came out of Chicago. You got Middleditch, Dan Friesen, Jordan Holmes. I think we have an aversion to bullshit. Yeah. And Alex is a pretty, pretty, he's one of the larger voices of bullshit. We just can't take it. I've been meaning to ask you what your take was on the opposition with Jordan Klepper because he's not doing exactly what you're doing, but he's, I mean, he's sort of mocking some of the people

that you're mocking and whatnot. Yeah. I think that they, it's hit and miss as any of those types of shows are, you know, with the satire that they're doing. Some of it's been really, Tim Baltz is very funny. I haven't seen much of him on there, but I do love his work. So I think that there's, I think that there's some pieces that hit and some that kind of missed the point. But I think generally, I don't know if there's enough to make a show out of yeah, necessarily without getting a little stale because some of the, a lot of the desk pieces that I've seen that have been posted as YouTube videos, I'm like, eh, right. I get the game that's going on. You can make fun of him yelling a bit. I think too, that you open up the possibility

of like playing into his hands a tiny bit, because when you have a dedicated show on Comedy Central that's about him, he's got to be like, they're dedicating millions of dollars to attacking me. I must be right. Sure. That sort of thing. Oh, I didn't think about that one. There's a complicated, there's a weird way that Alex's brain works that I think a lot of people don't understand. And I think the most scathing attack that can come from him, like at him, is from a bedroom, frankly. I think that that's because we don't have any, we don't have Comedy Central money behind us. No Soros money or anything like that. This is just, wait, hold on. I was told I was getting a check from George Soros to be on this show.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're getting a George Foreman check. Oh, that's fun. You're getting a Foreman grill. It's signed to his son. We get a care package from George Foreman Oaks. That would be really fun. Yeah. I'd take a grill to get all the juices out of my meat. Yeah. So we get in this next clip, we get a little bit more insight into the Bolton narrative. And we see clearly that it's coming from Roger Stone. And then we also get a little bit of insight into Roger Stone's relationship with John Bolton. Well, what about Roger? Do you think Roger Stone's going down? We'll get to that in a minute. Okay, very good. Roger Stone, who's friends with the new National Security Advisor, good friends with him. They

drink whiskey and play poker together for 30 years. So he'll be giving us his take on him. He likes Bolton. And he says Bolton is an apparatchik. And that means he will follow Trump's orders and will not leak in his doglike in his loyalty. So that's the case, even though I disagree with some of Boyle's views, then I trust the president. So he mentions Boyle there. That's another guy he has on. They spell apparatchik, right? Not even close, I don't believe. No. He has a guy on Francis Boyle, who's a professor who's anti Bolton. Okay. And they talk about Bolton for a little bit. But then Alex sort of just keeps repeating Roger Stone's kind of line. Okay. And then they decide like, Yeah, fuck it. Let's just

talk about how we both don't like Hillary Clinton. Oh, yeah. It's kind of in the table. Yeah. It's kind of a disaster. But then you have, you have this, Roger says he's an apparatchik. Just gets back to like, Oh, this is where the narrative is coming from. And tea. What's up? Apparachit. Oh, interesting. I guess so. Sorry. All right. Well, that's news to all of us. And then where does the narrative come from? Roger Stone, who drinks whiskey and plays poker with John Bolton for the last 30 years. He's an honest guy. Yeah. It seems like he'd be a very unbiased source of like a character reference for, for this crazy warmonger. Anytime anyone thinks something bad about Dan, just come talk to me and I'll probably agree with you. Well,

no, come talk to you in 20 years. If we're still friends and still, well, I guess we haven't played poker in a while, but it's been, I don't enjoy your style of poker playing. It's fun. That might be why we haven't played poker in a while. I'm chaotic. I play every hand. I don't play every hand. I'm just playing most hands. I mostly play bad hands. I don't have any interest in like the goddamn Joker out there playing hands. I don't have any interest in like a queen 10, but you give me a two five. We're talking, we're talking a sneak attack, baby. I hate it. I hate anyone that goes all in on the first hand of a $10 game. I don't think I do that. Burrows does. Okay. That's a, that's a complaint directed to Nate Burrows. If you're watching Nate Burrows,

fucking stop it. Yeah, sure. I'm sure he's watching. So in this next clip, this weekend, they had to march for our lives. They did a very successful march around the country. Tons and tons of people came out to protest for gun regulations and what have you. To be fair, I should let everyone know I am an NRA member and no, Oh boy. You know, if, if that guy would have had a gun, no one would know who's kids are. Did you hear that? Yeah, I heard that argument, which is kind of callous, a little bit, a little bit rough to hear. I think like, I think that the gun question is becoming a little bit muddied. I'm in, I'm strongly in favor of what these kids are pushing for and what have you,

but I think it's very easy to get the perception that everybody wants all guns destroyed or all guns confiscated. And I don't believe that that's necessarily the conversation that's happening. Who wants that? I think that people on, some people on Twitter think that that's the conversation that's happening. That's their way of pushing instead of actually having a conversation. That's their way of pushing back on it. Right. Right. Cause just last year, when you, the Democrats had their, all their debates, no one ever said, let's get rid of all guns. They're like, uh, gun reforms, fine. No, no, still honor the second amendment. Right. And the thing is like interpretations that have been done by the, even the Supreme court about the

second amendment have said clearly that second amendment does allow for some regulation that could happen, um, you know, regulating what appropriate sales of guns are and stuff like that. Let's put Warren G on this. He knows how to regulate. Oh yeah. He does get Nate dog. Wait, can't, uh, recipes. Sorry, bud. So anyway, Alex is really mad at David Hogg, in particular in this episode. And here's a really funny, uh, clip where he complains about David Hogg and then, uh, where it goes is fun. Uh, David Hogg doesn't get attention anymore. So he's running around and tie raids, cussing all of this, saying horrible things about me, you name it. We've got those clips coming up. And I think he's just a wonderful person and a hero

which I'm not going to say anything bad about him because CNN says I'll have my, my, my free speech taken. I'm not allowed to criticize grown young men in a man's world, cussing at people and shooting their mouths off, but we're going to play those clips coming up. And I, and I think he has his free speech. I don't, I agree with him. And I want to thank him for teaching me in America how we should behave. Thank you, David. Now, before we go any further, we have a huge sale on SuperMail. It's so funny to me that he pivots to an ad for SuperMail after complaining about how a high schooler is treating him. If that's what your fucking stuff does, if that's what your supplements do for you, that's the level of strength you can get to, then sign me up.

Yeah. That's a, that is a mess. Also, I love the presentation at the beginning of that. That's like, uh, he's not getting attention anymore. So he's got to lash out at me. It's like legitimately that March was overflowing streets. Yes. And, and that's not just him. No. Uh, that's, uh, and he's going to keep getting attention while we do nothing. It's just, they're not going away. Yeah. That girl's going to have long hair by the time she gets done. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing too that's really funny is he's like, why is David Hogg swearing? Like we've had these clips at Alex's dot where he just, you goddamn motherfuckers. He apologizes afterwards. He understands that it's not appropriate to cuss. He plays a clip of David Hogg being interviewed like at a dinner

table. Like it's not a, not a professional operation at all. And he's just saying like, these people don't give a shit. You know, it's, it's conversational swearing as opposed to Alex's like eight year old who just learned about the word fuck. He's screaming it over the, you, you fuck it. He fuck fucks and stuff like that. If David Hogg had been doing that, I kind of, I'd get some criticism, but he's just swearing like a human swears. I don't understand. I feel like that's the thing that I don't want to put Christians on blast or like moral, the people that think they're the morality police. They're like, Oh, I can't believe you would talk that way. I can't believe you would do this. Yet you allow other people to get away with the worst things

in the world who I'm just talking to Trump basically with the prostitutes and all that kind of stuff. I'm like weirdly enough, I'm not that bothered by the fact that if, you know, he got it, he got it or whatever, but don't come at me like you're a great person and you're a moral person and yet you're cool with that going down. So I don't even think there's a moral aspect to it. I think that, you know, paying people off do not, you know, and then lying about that. That's more of, but why is he paying them off? Because he didn't want the evangelicals or whatever to think different of them or, but now there seem to be cool with it, right? Which makes no sense as a person that was grew up in that kind of a church. No, things have changed. Yes. But earlier,

I apologize for derailing the show. No, no, that was on the rails. That was still on the rails. I was just trying to weave back onto the, the clip train. So this next clip, we get back to the Thomas Middleditch beta male narrative. Okay. And Alex is going to try and explain what he's actually talking about. Does he also get the joke that computer stuff comes out in beta beforehand? No. I mean, that's Kumail Nagyani put an album out called beta male like years ago. He doesn't get that stuff at all. That's a joke. Yeah. If you understand Brave New World, you understand why I talked about the cover of the Hollywood Reporter magazine, The Triumph of Beta Males a few weeks ago, and they made fun of that

with the main star of Silicon Valley. And it's amazing that I didn't attack him personally. I know my judge. In fact, I've met that guy South by Southwest four years ago. I've been shooting with basically the whole cast that goes back to the beginning. I've told you that there's videos and photos of it. The point is, is that, and we're going to Roger Stone here in one minute, the point I'm getting in here is that's how they turn this whole thing around of their pushing beta male, they're pushing the end of the family, they're pushing soy boys, the sperm counts dropping, the testosterone's dropping, everybody's getting cancer, women are getting cancer,

women are hyper feminized, men are feminized. It's an agenda. And then instead of me going, oh look, Hollywood Reporter, instead of them saying, oh, Jones criticized the push by the government for beta males and by the UN and UNESCO. Oh, that's what it is. They turned around and say, oh, he attacked you as a person saying you're a beta male so that men that feel like beta males think I'm attacking them. And they point out on the show, we're not beta males. Oh, no, I know that. I said they have alpha males, poses beta males to make that cool. So they again, misrepresent everything I said. Can you guys pull up the actual cover? I just type in Hollywood Reporter, the triumph of the beta male. And we had articles at infowars.com. Just type in infowars.com

after it and then put triumph of the beta male. Watson's headline was Hollywood Reporter celebrates the triumph of the beta male if radio listeners want to see it. There it is. Good job. Thank you. New Hollywood Reporter covers celebrities triumph of the beta male. And then it is a not even subliminal of gay men. That's the image of it. I'm not saying they're gay men. Stacking where they're all putting their hand in their pocket behind each other. Is they have a, what's the name of that Hollywood bombards you with so much of this stuff? I even know the fact twid name of it. It's called the, well, I'm not going to say it on here. So it's all in your face. Okay. All right. Stacking. Interesting analysis. Yeah. I think what he's

trying to come up with is either a daisy chain or a human centipede situation. Oh boy. But I don't think it's the latter. I want to see Camille Nonjani eating out Martin Starr, Zach Woods eats his butt out. That's interesting. That's interesting. Gay panic. Yeah, that came out of nowhere. I think it's just because their hands are in each other, like the person in front of them's pocket in the stacking of the setup of the, I don't think that that's necessarily, by the way guys, if you're watching this live, check out Silicon Valley tonight on HBO 10 o'clock. Do you think this is Buzz marketing Alex is doing? I don't know. Maybe he's getting a little bit under the table from HBO or to Buzz market. Has he been talking about Barry at all?

Don't believe so. Is it another show? Yeah. It's, what's his name? He's from SNL. Did Stefan Bill Hader? Oh yeah. He's been on every TV show. I'm surprised he's not been on the doors talking about he's everywhere. There have been some very strange guests in the past. It wouldn't, it wouldn't surprise me too terribly. I don't understand. Like, what don't you understand? None of those guys, if you watch the show, the whole show is they're all just kind of fucking geeks and dorks. Yeah. So it totally fits the whole profile. But why would he ever watch the show other than his good friend that he went shooting one time four years ago? With the whole cast. He apparently is friends with Mike judge or he's met Mike judge. No,

I think they are friends. Yeah. Yeah. As I understand, they are actually friends. So he said he went shooting with the whole cast. Yeah. I can see a TJ Miller doing that. I think TJ has talked about it in the past. So I, there are kernels of truth mixed in here. I don't know if middle ditch went along. Yeah, I can see that. The idea of Camille going along is fascinating to me. No way in hell. There was Zach Woods. Yeah. Zach Woods shooting with Alex Jones would be, Oh God, to be a fly on the wall for that. But definitely TJ Miller got rest his professional soul. Right. I'm sure he did that. Yeah. That checks out. But look, I mean, the government's trying to push beta males because they want to destroy the family.

They're trying to feminize everybody and give everyone cancer. What was that all about? We'll get back to that. It has to do with gay frog stuff, which we're going to discuss towards the end of this episode. But Alex Jones doesn't understand science too well. No. He just reads headlines of things and then decides to extrapolate them to irresponsible degrees. And that's what he's done more or less in this case. Yeah. So the government's pushing beta males and they're trying to make them cool. Thomas Middle Ditch, Thomas Middle Ditch and Stephen Colbert who are actually alphas pretending to be beta males on the show in order to make fun of Alex Jones for talking about the government's plan to push beta males through this article and headline.

It makes no sense. I feel like Alex Jones should be a cop. Like the way he can just twist things around and whatnot, he's just going to get a lot of convictions. He jam people up so hard. Yeah. So many false convictions. Speaking of something that's not false, Roger Stone has spoken to some people he probably shouldn't have in the past. Goose for two? Well, certainly that article just came out. We talked about it on our last episode that out of the Daily Beast, where they've demonstrated that Goose for 2.0 apparently does track back to Russian intelligence. Yeah. One of the times that he signed on, he didn't mask his server and IP address and it appears that it is actually Russian intelligence. In the past, Roger has been like, hey, I talked to him. Who

gives a shit? He's a hacker. He's now Russian intelligence. His tune is a little different on his appearance this day because he's going to jail, baby. His position is slightly less defensible now. Getting serious, you always have a lot of stuff on your radar. What else are you looking at right now? Well, there's a big move today because the Daily Beast, which is one of the least credible news organizations in the country, believes that they have proved that Goose for 2.0 is a Russian hacker, which allows them to revive the headline Trump associate Roger Stone was in touch with Russian hacker. Anybody who will look at that exchange between Goose for 2.0 will realize it is perfunctory. It is innocuous. No, no, it's if you want to message board as a journalist

We were reaching out as well. We reach out to all the hackers. We want the scoops. It's a smear. So the point is my conversation with him anyway was ex post facto. It happened long after the DNC material had been published by WikiLeaks. This is meaningless, but it gives the left an opportunity to recycle that headline. Trump associate Roger Stone communicated with Russian hacker. It's fake news, Alex. Well, I mean, it's not, it's not fake news strictly speaking because you mean if the reporting about Goose for 2.0 is correct, Roger Stone did have contact with him. Yes, that is not fake news. That is a real headline. Now what that means doesn't necessarily mean there was coordination between the two of them. That's not that's not necessarily proven.

But the fact that he was in contact with them and some of the messages between them did imply that there was some sort of a there was one message that Goose for sent him that was like paying you back or something like that. For what? Exactly. There's a lot of questions that definitely need answers now that this development has come to pass. And the fact that Roger's using terms like that's ex post facto. Now he's trying to use legal terms about it. He knows he's got to protect himself a bit. Well, they're asking about him in the specials counsel's office. What's, I don't know the guy's name, the guy that went crazy on TV. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He admitted that they asked him questions about Roger Stone.

Oh, of course. Yeah. But that's been, I mean, Roger's been a part of the investigation for a long time because he's, I mean, he, I'm not pointing necessarily like a specific finger, but I'm saying that there's something going on. I mean, I can think of two instances where he came out the night before being like, Oh, here we go. That's going to happen. Wasn't the night before. But yeah, it is. Well, Al Franken was the night before. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And that's not the Russian thing, but that's still kind of like a fucking setup. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. But in this next clip, we get some fun. So during Al Franken during Friday's episode during the show, Donald Trump is going to give a speech. Oh, about the omnibus spending bill. Sure. And at the

beginning of the day, Alex is convinced that Trump is going to veto it as demonstrated in this clip. When President Trump starts his press conference, we'll give you the excerpts of that or go to it live. But I predict he's going to say there's some good things in the omnibus spending bill, some bad things, but that he is not going to sign it because it doesn't have the border wall and because it has too much frivolous spending. And the swamp is delivering a giant stinking mess. So that's his take. And here's his take as Trump starts speaking. And then we're going to get on to this ridiculous situation that took place over the last week. So bingo, he's going to shoot it down. Okay. So he's he's still going with he's going to shoot it

down. And as Trump keeps talking, Alex realizes, uh oh, and submarines, we have again, it pause being built, the likes of which there's nothing anywhere in the world. We were just switching from the Fox News feed through the White House feed because there's this better. And again, he's signaling that it's a bad bill with a bunch of pork. So he's going to shoot it down, calling it crap. But he's also signaling he might sign it because it's got so much good stuff in it, which I don't like that too much. And Rand Paul doesn't. We're about to find out. Keep going. But we're going to go to break. We're going to break and come back with this. So he's like, I need time. I need to, I got to figure out where to land on this thing.

He's not going to veto it. Like I thought, Oh God, I got bad information. I was not ready to do this live. It's like, why would he need to go to break? You don't have to go to break, right? He's not on a station. But he is on radio stations, but he skips breaks all the time. Okay. I don't know. I don't think I feel like he he showed some cards there in terms of like, he was expecting a veto and it didn't happen. And he's like, Oh, I got to figure out where to land on this. And then when he comes back, he starts playing the press conference again. And Trump says something that Alex should be very not into. And I don't know why he allowed this to not like, whenever something inconvenient to Alex's narratives happens, he usually just

starts yelling over it and hopes people don't hear it. Like whenever they do the debates, he'd just yell over Hillary. Yeah. Look at this witch, witch, witch, witch. So people couldn't hear what she said. He should have yelled over this. Our military equipment is the best equipment in the world. And one of the things you saw two days ago with Saudi Arabia and with other countries, Saudi Arabia as an example is buying hundreds of billions of dollars worth of our equipment. And we're getting very fast approvals on that. Therefore, as a matter of national security, I've signed this omnibus budget bill. He is literally saying one of the considerations of signing this bill was that we're selling millions and millions of dollars of arms.

Billions, it's tough to tell. I thought it was a billion dollar deal. It sounded like he said billions and I gotta be honest with you. I don't think he's that smart. Well, but to be fair, that should be a real red flag for Alex. Yeah. That one of the considerations is billions of dollars of arms sales to Saudi Arabia, who Alex is not in favor of. Sure. They took down the towers. He doesn't think that he does, but he also thinks it's our government and the deep state and what have you. So Alex, I don't know why he played that, that he doesn't address it. He doesn't know, but he realizes that like, shit, he is signing the bill. And so Trump keeps talking. And the Senate must end.

They must end the filibuster rule and get down to work. We have to get a lot of great legislation approved. And without the filibuster rule, it'll happen just like magic. All right. There you go. And the president is right. He then went and signed it. This is just minutes ago or a few minutes behind here is the brakes. And I see what he's doing is pragmatic. He's saying fix it because I have no way I'm not a dictator. Now, if I have a line item veto, like many governors have, like Rick Perry had in Texas, you can go through and kill the pork. And I think that's something the president really should have. Okay. So, so he's just like, all right, I'm on board. Yeah. He's going to veto it. Bingo. He's going to shut it down.

Oh, he's for it. Oh, I see what he's doing. It's actually really smart. That makes total sense. Yeah. That's not good. Yeah. So what's even worse? Would you have rather Alice Jones come out again? I'm against him. I don't know. I on one level in terms of like, I'm always not pulling for a redemption because I think it's impossible at this point, but I'm always pulling for like that voice that's got to be in the back of his head that remembers who he used to be to like, Hey, Hey, stay up, stand up. Yeah. Stop putting up with this shit. I'm always pulling for that to happen, but I know it's never going to. So I'm actually now more interested to see how much of his past he can retcon as he

keeps accepting whatever Trump does. Yeah. Like once Trump, I don't know, suspends the midterm elections, that's not going to happen. But let's use that as an example. Yeah. That's absolutely not going to happen. But if he did, Alex would be like, of course, the Democrats are trying to steal all of these elections. He's just trying to protect America. He that's the level of nonsense that he's capable of now. It'd be a lot less commercials on TV. I'd appreciate that. Yeah. That's one consideration. I'm tired of seeing what JB Pritzker has to do for me. Oh boy. Yeah. We're all sick of that. So in this next clip, Alex Jones gets back to the David Hogg situation. How much stuff, like how much interaction do he and Trump have now?

Like, I know there was a little bit during the campaign because Trump was trying to use him to get his people to vote for him. I'm guessing none. I'm guessing it's all through Roger Stone. Do you think Trump rolls around every four years? Like he'll come around if he runs in 2020? 100%. Yes. I think he'll show up if he's running again and, you know, we're still there. Just be there like a happy little dog. Yeah. But I think most of the interaction, if any, is through Roger now. And I even have questions how much Roger is necessarily speaking to Trump. But I don't know. That's all speculation because we can't possibly know the truth about that. But what I do know the truth about is that Alex is about to lie about David Hogg.

About a child? We can't, we can't have it both ways. You know, like, I don't know if I don't... How old is he? I don't know. I think he's 17 or 18. He's a child. I don't know about the idea of like, you know, labeling him a child when it's convenient and treating him like an adult when it's not. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, the truth is, Alex kind of thinks he's a child and also he has some other thoughts. I want to air that. What we'll do is we'll take calls and at the bottom of the hour I'm going to air the profanity-laced piece by the high school senior who's a public figure who calls me a piece of SH. You know what? Because you are. And who calls me a scammer and a liar and a fraud and then says he wants to debate me and then says he's scared to and then goes on

TV and says we're we're scared to debate him and then we can dish it out but we can't take it. And he's just bullying me. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. For Alex. Alex is getting bullied. You hate to hear that. I hate to hear it. You just, I mean, it is, what do you do to him there? Just jaw on a person. Okay. I'm a very pretty person. All right. I don't know. I think that the scale of bullying, it's not very high, not very high on the scale of bullying. I think you also got to consider people's, you know, position. Alex Jones being in charge of a quite large media operation. I think he should probably not complain about high schoolers, friends got murdered, saying he's a scam artist when he is. Yeah. And don't complain about

him using profanity when you called Adam Schiff a cocksucker and beat his ass when you were drunk on air. Don't fucking play those games. Yeah. So in his next clip, Alex wants to refine his statements that he's made about David Hogg to try and make them a little more palatable. But in doing so, he kind of, it doesn't really work. David Hogg, the poster child out of 3,000 students at Parkland where the mass shooting happened, where there were not crisis actors. We never said that. That's a huge media line. We said they picked four students out of 3,000 who are all in the drama club and all anti gun and all interning and wanting to work with CNN with Democrat parents. They picked them as the PR people to go out with anti gun classic talking

points. And that's a fact that it's come out that CNN is banning conservative students and giving people stage questions and all that. So what are they going to do when they're getting caught doing that? Misrepresent what we said in the straw man. Hogg has now blown up in a just vicious tyrant cussing and yelling at gun owners, frothing, attacking me, you name it. It's all coming up at the bottom of the hour. Tease it up, baby. Keep watching. It's coming up at the end of the hour. Just a couple more of my pill commercials before we get to it. And then you'll be disappointed because it's not what I say. But the thing is, like when he's saying, people are saying that I said they were crisis actors. I didn't say that. All I said is that

these kids are in the drama club and they're actors and they were clearly chosen with talking points that they're being given by the powers that be who are clearly paid by Soros. It's like you're just describing basically what people think crisis actors are and not using the term. So I don't find that argument super compelling. Come on, Dan. You know what? Every time this happens, Alex is turning me. Yeah. You're getting flipped. You can tell by this lady. I just drew because she thinks info wars is cool. Yay. That's the most info wars positive thing that's ever happened on this podcast. So he's Alex is getting bullied. One day I'm gonna date this girl. You can set your sights high. I'm married, but I'll take it off for you. Drawing. I just made

a, so Alex is getting bullied by a high schooler. That sentence alone should end the show. Right. How old is he in his 40s? Alex is 44. Okay. Not much older than me. We would have written the same school bus as a child. Getting bullied by a fucking 17 year old. That's crazy. And then it gets worse. He has another complaint that is about how media operations are treating him. It's pretty hilarious. How does he treat them? This is my question earlier. I mentioned David Hogg through the mainstream media has continually misrepresented the facts about they have continued in three MPR pieces this week on CNN this week again on MSNBC. So many clips that get sent to me. I can't even look at them all.

I asked some of the crews to give me transcripts saying that I said no one died and I said they were actors and I said he was from California and 24 years old. I didn't say that. My crew didn't say that. No one said that. Then CNN who he works with who he wants to work for who he's visited before the shooting ever happened lobbies to have info or shut down lobbies to have us taken off YouTube. A competing media organization that that's interference. That's that's super uncivil in the courts. When big organizations get involved it can even be criminal. Interesting. Yeah. That's uncivil of CNN. Oh no. A couple of months back Alex Jones had Mike Cernovich on and they started a contest where they were going to pay people thousands of dollars

to go on CNN with CNN is Isis signs and CNN is Isis shirts. Okay. Talking about how we got out. We got to take them down. I mean uncivil was that part of that guy who called and made the death threats. Was that related to that? Oh no. It preceded that. Okay. You know it's not necessarily one to one connected. Yeah. But you know inquiring minds are very fascinated by the connections. Yeah. Yeah. He had an entire contest who was going to give out like like a hundred thousand dollars to people who would soy bomb CNN yelling CNN is Isis. Yeah. They're complaining about allegedly George Soros paying people to do stuff. It is kind of interesting isn't it. Yeah. Well they didn't they're not about to do that. They have been doing that.

Has people have people gotten checks. I think so. Yeah. I mean he did a contest where he paid people to go on TV and interrupt Clinton rallies yelling Bill Clinton's a rapist. Yeah. And stuff like that. He does this from time to time. So when you talk about uncivil. What's the paycheck for that. What's how much am I getting paid to do that. I think it's either a thousand or 2500 depending on what you get on TV. I could take a couple of days off from work if I got $2,500. Yeah. It'd be pretty nice. Yeah. You just got to go find live television and I get arrested. You think you might. Yeah. I mean it depends. Depends on what you do. Okay. I don't think you could get arrested for just yelling that on TV. I wonder how many people actually got the money.

I feel like no they don't have to pay anyone. I know he's had people who have called in who said they got the money but I don't know how much I trust of that. How much of that is like I don't know if you know this but there's around the United States a lot of these radio programs. Sure. The calls are fake. We've talked about that a bit. I think most of Alex's calls are real. Just because they're so dumb. I don't think you could specify like an improv sketch actor to be this dumb and right in line with Alex's beliefs. I think most of his calls are real if only because well first of all you hear the same people call pretty repeatedly and then they just mirror him back to him in a way that would be difficult to make up on the fly.

Have you ever taken calls on this show? Not on this one. No. I think you should do a call on episode. I need to get the I need to get that cord that hooks up the phone. My old one broke. But I'd be willing to do that. I'd especially be willing to do that with like people who like Alex. Yeah. I'd like to discuss stuff with them. Talk it up in the chat guys. Make this happen. I'm only here once every maybe once a year but it's up to you guys. Do you want to talk to Dan and Jordan? Make it happen. I don't need them calling. I'd rather debate people who like him. You know you want to talk to them. Make it a Patreon exclusive $500 donations. Now you're talking. I want to do a fundraiser. So Alex uses all of everything as an opportunity for a fundraiser.

Yeah. My smooth transition. Look at that. So we're not going to play the idea or we're not going to play the profanity laced tirade that David Hogg goes on. You just say shit. Well, you just a couple of times he swears like these politicians don't give a fuck about us and stuff like that. He's not lying. No. And it's not. I mean, I guess it is technically profanity laced but it just sounds like a person expressing themselves. And it actually to me is evidence that he is not a crisis actor because if he was people would teach him like don't swear. You don't want people to attack you for that. You'd have a much more polished media appearance. Is he the guy that got saved by a lifeguard and happened to be on the news or something?

Is that that? I don't know what you're talking about. There was one of the people in Parkland were on TV before because they got saved by a lifeguard. I have no idea. Okay. I don't know this. I'm resistant to all of those stories because I've looked into them in the past. Like this version of stuff from tragedies in the past. Yeah. And it's always such a stupid rabbit hole to go down. I just don't want to waste my time. Anyway, we are going to hear a little bit of David Hogg on CNN on C-Span because I think it's important and he brings up Alex's claim to fame. Okay. So let's go ahead and go to David Hogg on C-Span 2 with the editor of Axios. That's because Politico knows they're discredited now so they've changed the name to Axios to make

a song they're independent and he's interviewing him asking a question and then he gets into the gay frogs. Here it is. You're 17. You'll be 18 next month. You online were the victim of a conspiracy video attacked by this sort of infowars crowd. What was that like? It was wonderful. It was great advertising. It's charming. I want to mention his name. When individuals say these things to us, I think it's important for their viewing audience to realize they're simply trying to make money off them. For example, one of the main people in this situation that I don't want to name the name of, but as you said, it's from Infowars. He shouts a lot. I'll just give you that hint. He looks red. He's advertising many of these things and the power lies in these advertisers to pull out of

these fear-mongering, hate-loving people that just want to spread hate and division in America. For example, on Infowars, one of the main things that he spoke, one of his famous things, is saying that one of his most famous statements is saying that Topwater is turning the frogs gay and will turn you gay too. First off, gay people are awesome. I don't think that's a problem at all. And secondly, if you notice at the end of that video, he advertises water filters. Interesting. Hey, the water's poison, bro. Now, we can play all the sign-divot reports. We're putting one together with all the scientists about the frogs becoming gays, the term scientists use, going after males, trying to fertilize eggs that don't exist, and then the species dies.

Okay. He goes on from there to do about a five-minute commercial about his water filters. So it sort of proves David Hogg's point to begin with. Wouldn't scientists use the term like heterosexual or hetero something? You might think that they would. So Alex has one citation that he always uses for this. He brings it up a couple of times. There's an article out of Berkeley that he references. He flashes it up on screen so I can tell that it's the exact article that he's talking about. And in this article, they found that frogs that are highly exposed to high levels of atrazine, that's the chemical, atrazine, which is mostly a byproduct of like plastics production and pharmacological, not pharmacological, farm use.

Like it's used as a weed killer, a very good weed killer. 75% of the frogs that were exposed to high levels of atrazine end up chemically castrated. 10% were shown to become females. Quote, the 10% or more that turn from males into females can successfully mate with male frogs, but because these females are genetically male, all their offspring are male. So that's interesting. It's a pretty wild thing. It's horrifying yet also kind of cool. Yeah. And so in relation to this guy from vice decided to look into it and talk to some scientists about what the ramifications of this are. If there's any reason for humans to be concerned. Was it a hipster guy that just kind of shows up in town? Probably. So Matt Young, a neuroscientist from

the University of Nottingham told this reporter from vice quote, frogs and many species of fish, namely the Nemo fish, the clown fish, can spontaneously change their sex anyway. Fish are not humans and humans don't spend their lives living in and breathing water. Due to their natural sex swapping characteristics, it's likely some fish and frogs are very susceptible to the actions of these pollutants, but there's still no evidence they can influence the development of sexuality. They all talk about it doesn't really affect humans. So I looked into it a little bit more. I wanted to know about atrazine. And so I read this bit from the Centers for Disease Control quote, one of the primary ways that atrazine can affect your health is by altering the way your

reproductive system works. Studies of couples living on farms that use atrazine for weed control find an increase in the risk of preterm delivery. These studies are difficult to interpret because most of the farmers were men who may have been exposed to several types of pesticides. So it's inconclusive that you can you can draw some sort of a slight connection, but you can't really even do that. Atrazine has been shown to cause changes in blood hormone levels in animals that affected the ability to reproduce. Some of the specific effects observed in animals are not likely to occur in humans because of biological differences between humans and these types of animals. Atrazine also caused liver, kidney and heart damage in animals.

It's possible that atrazine could cause these effects in humans, although this has not been examined. So there's a but there's some other studies that you can find that are kind of interesting because we were like, what about this cancer thing that Alex brought up earlier? There's a study, there's a 2008 study, Lopano is the name of the person who led the research. And they found that atrazine stimulates aromatase activity in human ovarian cancer cells. Aromatase is an enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen and is produced by the adrenal glands and by some cancer cells. Cancer patients with estrogen promoted cancers, primarily breast prostate and ovarian cancers are treated with aromatase inhibitors, a class of drugs designed

specifically to block the production of aromatase, thereby decreasing the levels of estrogen in patients. So Alex is trying to make the argument that aromatase, you know, that activity is stimulated by atrazine and therefore will boost the estrogen levels in people that end up taking it. The problem with this is if you go and try and find that study, the first thing you find is that the people who made that study have retracted the study over concerns that they have that they didn't do a good enough job with the study. So you have a retracted study, you have another study that was done on people who lived on the farms that showed premature delivery that's inconclusive because they're exposed to too many other things.

So you don't have a good control group there. All you have is this strange study of frogs that definitely doesn't relate to humans one to one because frogs and fish do have some gender changing. Sure. And this isn't to say that like it's good that there should be stuff in the water and stuff like that. But so why would it mean that the frogs are turning gay? They just they turn they change sexes. Right. They can reproduce. Well, I think I think it's because they are they end up changing into males and then end up breeding with males. And that triggers Alex a little bit. Oh, okay. Well, because they're females internally, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. The article doesn't say that the frogs are gay. It says that

they change. Yeah. I guess it would be sex. Yeah. So also from the Centers for Disease Control, just in case you're worried that this is in all of our tap water. Well, I grew up on the farm. I had well water. I want to see what's going to happen to myself. Interesting. I was a month early, by the way. Oh, could have been the atrazine. Could have been. So from the Centers for Disease Control, quote, the Environmental Protection Agency identifies the most serious hazardous waste sites in the nation. These sites make up the national priorities list and are the sites targeted for long term federal cleanup activities. Atrazine has been founded at least 20 of the 1636 current or former NPL sites. So that's not a very high number. Atrazine is taken up by all plants,

but in plants not affected by the atrazine, which would be ones that aren't the weeds that it targets, it is broken down before it can have any effect on their photosynthesis. And therefore, it's not in the foods that come from atrazine treated plants. So the food supply isn't a natural concern that you could be exposed to it. Most people are not exposed to atrazine on a regular basis. People living near areas where the atrazine was applied to crops may be exposed through contaminated drinking water. Atrazine has been founded at about 20 superfund sites. Those are the NPL sites in the United States. People living near those sites may be exposed to higher levels of atrazine. If you're a factory worker who works with atrazine, you may be exposed to higher amounts.

That makes sense. The government has estimated that approximately 1,000 people may be exposed this way. So the numbers of people who are actually damagingly or dangerously exposed to atrazine are massively over exaggerated by Alex. Sure. And then, you know, which is weird because overall usually tells the truth. And then the other thing that's even more fucked up is if you really want to talk about what, you know, the problem, the solution to it, you know, if there are these couple of farms, not a couple of farms, there's some farms. 20? Well, 20 sites, 20 hazardous sites, but there could be more farms that aren't nearly as polluted, but the atrazine could still affect the groundwater somehow. You know what would solve that? What's this? Regulation. Oh, no,

that's not good. That's the end solution to that problem. So anyway, this has been a long way of saying that there are some interesting things that have been documented happening to frogs because of pesticide and groundwater contamination. But this is not at all applicable to humans and studies that have shown that have been retracted by the people who have done them because they don't think it's good science. Yeah, it does make me wonder what I drank as a child because I did drink well water in a farming community. So I could have been putting pesticides and stuff in there. Could be mercury, could be lead. I'm crazy about that mercury. Could be any of these things. So anyway, earlier, Alex said that David Hogg is bullying him. Yeah. It's interesting

because what happens next on the show? Because they've told him, Jones is getting ready to sue. The law firms are lined up in DC. He's trying to say that like, whenever he's like, I don't want to say his name. That's because he's trying to protect himself from a lawsuit. When in reality, it's just like, let's not fucking give him. He also mentioned info wars. It's not like he stays completely away. No, but also when the interviewer is asking him and says like, you were the target of info wars like groups, that's because it spiraled far beyond just info wars. Yeah. And a lot of the people who were sending him death threats weren't like Alex and Owen Troyer. It was people inspired by their world. Anyway,

which they are, I got to go to DC in a couple of weeks. So everybody'll get what they want. We'll start rolling. Yeah, lawsuit's coming. Well, let's just say it in there. Like, yeah, don't don't say the name, dude. We're going to say, Oh, it's info wars, things like that. And then say things they didn't say, you understand, we're going to teach you, David, how you murder the truth. Axios will teach you, CNN will teach you. So we have now transferred him, you know, as a joke, fun, you know, to protect his identity, he is no longer David Hogg. He is now David frog. Here it is. You're 17. You'll be 18 next month. You online for the victim of a conspiracy video

attacked by the sort of info wars crowd. What was that like? It was wonderful. So he just replays the CNN thing with his face blurred and that voice modulation should have put a peppy the frog there. That's the perfect. No, because he's getting sued by Matt Fury, the guy who created peppy the frog. I also, I thought it was just going to be like ribbit, ribbit, ribbit, ribbit. You're doing the David frog. Yeah. Go the fucking at least half mile. Go to the halfway there. Yeah. Yeah. Go to an encyclopedia online and get that sound clip. And I love that he's saying that this is to be funny. That is not funny. It's not offensive either. It's just nothing. So he plays the entire thing with the voice

modulator and it gets to the end. Then Alex says something real stupid. He advertises water filters. Interesting. Oh, interesting. Yeah, beer commercial show, girls and bikinis, and you're going to get girls and bikinis if you, if you drink Bud Light. We're going to find the woman of your dreams, you fly to Cancun with sandals commercials. We have the highest rated spectrum for different companies of high quality filters. And we're saying every major tap water, almost all well water has atracine. It has mercury. It has a roundup. So do you get what he's saying there? I have a feeling that you need to buy a filter. Well, he's accidentally pointing a finger at himself. Yeah. Because he's comparing his ads to

beer commercials that depict a false reality to entice you into buying beer, leading you to believe, Hey, maybe if I buy this beer, this hot girl will like me. He's doing the same thing with, Hey, maybe if I buy all of these products, I'll be safe from the onslaught of globalist attacks that are trying to get me through the water and air. He's, I mean, this is very dumb. Yeah. It was very stupid. They sell gift cards to the info war store. I have to assume. Because I know somebody's got a birthday coming up. Come on, man. Don't give me a don't give me super male vitality. I don't, that's the last thing I need is to be like, I'm hooked. What if it works? I'm sure it would work. Yeah. In as much as like it would make me feel something. Yeah. It would

fuck with my, my, my levels. Um, so anyway, we talked about the atracine and stuff. Here's Alex just lying a little more about that. Cool. And my baby gets filtered water. So yes, I'm saying our tap waters highly contaminated. Can we put the Berkeley study up about making frogs, okay, please? Cause it actually makes them want males. They go and try to fertilize other males. There it is. Test aside atracine can turn male frogs into females. Okay. So there you go, ladies and gentlemen. And then, and then we have the scientists saying it literally makes them gay. And atracine does the same thing to male humans. Now that is a fact. It's not. No, it's not. In all he has is that Berkeley study. And it's a, it doesn't, doesn't say that. Um, so anyway, no one

digs deep, Dan. No, you gotta do is read a tweet from the president and be like, well, he said it. It's gotta be just read a headline and you're golden. You're good to go. Um, so we have one more, one more clip here. Uh, it's a little bit longer, uh, cause it's Alex getting mad about comedy again. He gets back to middle ditch at the end here. Um, and I want to, I want you to watch for how, um, he selectively edits the appearance of middle ditch on Colbert show. Uh, Alex gets very mad when the media edits his clips and makes it seem like he's saying something he didn't say and watch him do the exact same thing, uh, to this Colbert show clip. Uh, we have a clip where he had the main guy from Silicon Valley on

and they're implying that I'm attacking him as being a beta male when he was on the cover of a magazine celebrating the triumph of the beta male. And I wasn't even saying the cast was bad or he was bad or that might judge my good friend is bad. I know a lot of the cast has been shooting with them and out with them. He brings that up a lot. Mike's invited me out when they're in Austin. I think that guy shot with us. I recognize him. The point is why he says, Oh, I know Alex Jones, Thomas Middle Ditch. That's a nice fake name. Responds to beta male criticism. No, they're pushing beta male. They're saying toxic masculinity is bad. The family is bad. Trudeau in Canada wants to ban the word mother. I should have let the show of that. He doesn't want to ban the word

mother. No, no, this is just a bad for dancing fans. Oh man, that song is never going to play again. He, uh, Trudeau, I don't even know if it came directly from him, but, uh, the Canadian government was trying to get people to use gender neutral words whenever, uh, whenever it would be appropriate. Okay. Uh, you know, parent instead of mother or father, just to be nonspecific about it. And, uh, who cares? Yeah. Either telling government agencies don't use the word mother. Someone else might not have a mother. So it's hurtful. That's not why. So let's go ahead and play just a few excerpts of the, uh, show with Stephen Colbert last night. Here it is.

It's, it's ruffled some feathers. I know. I've heard. I've heard the legends. Yeah, that the beta males are taken over. You know who Alex Jones is, right? Of course. Alex Jones said this. He, the alt-right feels threatened. He says, Alex Jones said, the globalists are teaching us to turn off our life force. It's a camouflage so the alpha males that are still left don't notice they're being taken control of and being enslaved. Yeah. Is this true? Is this true? Bob Townsend, are you enslaving the alpha males? Because you know, I consider myself a bit of an alpha male time. Oh, really? Oh, so do I, Stephen. Oh, do you really? Yeah. I go to bed in full plaid, uh, eating a cheeseburger and shooting a gun. Oh, really? Yeah. I can go to bed in camo. You can't even find me. I mean, I remember when, well, I guess they didn't, uh, maybe they announced her when I heard Google was...

Right there, they cut. Yeah. Because after that, he says, uh, actually I'm a theta male. I'm cucking the cucks. He has even more on that riff and he just jumps, uh, Alex just cut it so it went to a completely different conversation. So it sounds like it makes no sense, listen. Essentially catering your searches based on algorithms, like we would say, we would search the same thing and we would potentially get different results based on our previous searches, right? It's all the aggregation of the internet. It's like the worst thing to have happened. Twitter, it's like, how can you control elections with bots and minions to, like, create trends when they don't even exist? That didn't surprise me, although to be honest, I'm happy it's out there.

So maybe people can take the red pill and get woke. It's documented. We got aliens. You're an alien. I'm an alien because I'm part of the Illuminati by my protein powder. I'm in. I'll buy it. I'll buy it. Well, Thomas, thanks for being here. Nice to see you again. So that's a nightly basis. And notice Hogg this morning, Jones claims there's chemicals in the water and not making us masculine on C-span. They are so worried about that because it's a fact. No, it's because of the terrifying underlying assumptions. There's things underneath the statements. Especially about the idea of, you know, this thing that they are putting in the water. That's the first thing.

When in reality it's from runoff of farms and industrial waste and that sort of thing. That's really the place where it comes in. It's not like there's a massive globalist who are just trying to poison the groundwater. Like it's Batman Begins or some shit. Then the second part is if we go along for the ride of this assumption, it is that they're inducing homosexuality in people. And Alex seems to be saying my products will help fight back against that to some extent. And there's a very bad, there's an uncomfortable underlying piece there, I believe. Yeah. If I stop using my Brita, I'm going to start sucking dick. Is that what that means? That's a possible thing you could

take away from. Actually, I don't think he endorses Brita. No. You need a, I don't even remember Aqua Pure or whatever his brand is because you need the double distilled. I don't even. I will put this out there. I've said it before. I'll say it again. I am more than happy to suck a dick if I love the person. And I'm talking romantically, not as like friends. I like that you're doing that to the camera. Yeah, doing a take. I don't want him to think that I'm homophobic. I would easily suck a dick if I was romantically in love with spectacular. So you got, you got that. He edited that clip. Yeah. In order to make it look like it just jumps to nonsense about trends and but if you're watching, if you're watching the video, you could tell it was edited,

probably. Yeah. I think that most people maybe don't pay attention to it. Yeah. So in his last clip, Alex ruminates on, on their, their interview and ends the show the way he always does. They just think they can laugh about it all and then celebrate that men are these effeminate, cowardly chicken neck creatures and then make them love it. And when I'm warning mills, this is happening. Make the choice whether you want to be like this or not. They want to make themselves victims and say that I'm just attacking them because they look like a beta male. But no, those two guys are not beta males. They're alpha males that sold out at the globalist. Clearly. Now in forestore.com, in foreslip.com, huge discounts on water filtration, air filtration,

just so happens running this week. Oh, what a coincidence. Yeah. So anyway, that brings us to the end of February the 23rd of March. I feel like based on your doodling throughout, you didn't, you didn't enjoy this all that much. I disagree. Okay. Just because I do mean that I wasn't listening. I know I didn't, I wasn't suggesting you weren't listening, but I, I'm just self conscious. I, I always feel bad when I have to bring someone else into this world of unpleasantness. Alexa Jones. Sure. I was thinking, I don't know if people would want to buy this. Yeah, sure. I think either we should put it on a t-shirt. Okay. Or we sell the original prints. I think that's the best way to go about it. $500 Patreon. Okay. Half of it goes to this podcast. Half of it goes to the artist, me.

Be happy to sign it. I'd be happy to record a podcast about why I drew it. Oh, that'd be good. Yeah. Don't, don't screenshot it. Let's just have it. No, that's dirty pool. Pay your $500 like a good American person would. Amen. I am not, I want to say this. I told you before we went to Aaron, I might have said it on the podcast. I normally leave here sad. I'm not sad today. No, because it was all just stupid. Yeah. And that's fine. That's that's somewhat tolerable. Yeah. But anyway, people can follow you as the Matt Riggs. I'm at the Matt Riggs on Twitter. Also, I have a fun podcast called 30 Characters comes out once a month, but we'll be doing more of them. That's the Matt Riggs show.com. No, that podcast, that's no longer around. I thought that was just

your go to website. No, the Matt Riggs.com is now my website. Oh, take the show off 30 characters. You can get it at the bad news content. It's very convoluted. Okay. Just follow me on Twitter at the Matt Riggs. Find everything you need. If you're from the Chicago land area, we do a show at the Laugh Factory once a month, actual murders. Yeah. It's at seven o'clock. If you want to come email actual murders at gmail.com. We'll get you in for free. Nice comps. Just got to buy two drinks. We're not buying your drinks. We are at knowledge fight.com. That's our website. You can check us out there. We are also follow us at knowledge underscore fight. We're on Facebook. You can find us there. Knowledge fight was already taken. No. Yeah,

yeah, it was actually. Okay. And then knowledge fight 69 is too many characters. Sure. So also, we're on itunes. What have you? Good times. Riggs, this has been fun. It's been a lot of fun. Generally, at the end of this, these episodes, we tell someone to go fuck themselves. That's what we do on my podcast. Really? Yeah. It seems like a national. We've been telling the whole crew to fuck you. You ripped us off. That's actually on bad news. Good timing, which we don't do anymore. To be fair, it grew out of us telling one specific guy to fuck himself at the end of every episode. And then now we've decided to give him a break and now we switch it. And as the fill in, Jordan, I feel like I should give you the honors of who from today's conversation would you like to tell

to fuck themselves? Before I do that, I do want to point out I don't like the red socks. I just got this shirt for cheap. Fair enough. People won't hold it against you. I do like this hat. Anyway, I got it. I'm sure he's been told many times before. David Hogg. No. Whoa. I got to go with our boy. That's going to go to jail soon. Roger Stone. Roger Stone. You can go fuck yourself. Off Roger Stone. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.