Knowledge Fight - #144: March 25-31, Part 2

Episode Date: April 2, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan deal with what Alex Jones was up to last week, while Jordan was on vacation. Tune in for the part where Alex talks about how he's been a part of 10 abortions in his life, stay fo...r the hosts arguing about how much respect a guest should get.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. Welcome to part two of the week that was last week while Jordan was on vacation. This is part two of the week of March 25th. Right. You listened to part one and we needed to separate it into two parts. You understand now?
Starting point is 00:00:27 Yeah. No, I completely understand now. Listen to part one, wash the taste out of your mouth. Right. If you are listening to this immediately after listening to part one, let me tell you something. Go, go get a drink. Go do, go do something. Take a bath. Just, just let that one go. And now Dan is, is promising me this will be the most fun I've ever had in my entire life. This is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I don't know anything about Alex Jones. There we got that covered. There we go. So before we get going, should I reiterate my feelings on California or are we good there? We're good. Okay. Before we get going and I fully explain that we're recording this immediately after we recorded the first part, I would like to give a shout out to a new donor. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:01:13 What's going on out there? Kirk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much for joining out. Kirk. Absolutely. If you are Kirk Cameron, weird that you listen to this show. Super weird. Very disappointed. Super weird. Very disappointed.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I thought you were going to go with Captain Kirk. Why would I go with Captain Kirk? He's a fictional character. His name is James, but I was hoping you would go with Captain Kirk because then I was going to pivot that. Don't, don't pre-plan bits. I was going to pivot that into how there was a Master P song on the Get O D album. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:44 All right. An album cut called Captain Kirk featuring Fiend and I can't remember who the other feature is. It might have been Big Ed the assassin. Okay. Okay. But it's about how Master P is Captain Kirk and he's, uh, he's, uh, down here and he has to put up with these hoes that that will happen.
Starting point is 00:02:02 The chorus of it, if you are Master P, you will have to put up with hoes. That's just a truth. The chorus of it. I don't know who it was. It might have been me, X. It might have been one of the other ladies who didn't really have album deals. You're, you're, you're explaining this bit to a level that is, uh, uh, unconscionable. The chorus of it is a lady singing, Captain Kirk, can you save me?
Starting point is 00:02:24 Captain Kirk, I want to have your baby. That's a good, that's a good rhyme. The whole thing is an elaborate metaphor for how Master P, now that he has, uh, record industry success, yes, can beam women out of the ghetto. Right. And it is an unfortunately misogynistic take on it, but that's not great. At the same time, but at the same time, I enjoyed the creativity of the metaphor because on the level of no limit records, that was unheard of the level of extended
Starting point is 00:02:53 metaphor. I feel like this is way better than if I had led you into the bit. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Anyway. Anyways, Kirk Cameron, you really shouldn't have made the left behind series. That's all I'm saying. We thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And if you'd like to become a policy one, you can by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, click the support the show button or going to Amazon and buying left behind. I don't know. I don't know. Or get OD or available on compact disc. Yep. There you go in stores all over the wherever record store still exists.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. Still better than the last dawn, his follow up double CD by Master P. It was a terrible effort. Although there were a couple of songs on there that was pretty decent. I miss my homies was a good song. Was that on good OD? I think that was on the last dawn. Anyway, the best I'm just going to let you go.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But let's let's just see how far this goes. Unfortunately, the best album of no limits entire catalog was by C murder, who had been murdering somebody. Which was like the definition of not irony. Yeah. He has a lyric literally that is you take the sea out my name and you're left with a homicide, which is followed up by the ghetto made me crazy. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:08 His lawyer, his argue, lawyer, his lawyer argued in court that he was incapable of the crime of homicide. Right. My name is C murder. But be that as it may, his album, Vaseline, I think is probably the best album of no limits entire catalog. If you disagree, please send an email to knowledge fight at gmail.com. We can discuss it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Don't, don't do it. Don't you don't want to, you don't want to open that can of worms with Dan. Also, Mr. Servans. The next level is a great album. Also, as long as you think Dan's articles may be the email that you will get about no limit records will be 400 pages long. Roughly silk. The shocker has some respectable work.
Starting point is 00:04:51 The game is to be sold, not to be told by. You say the shocker. Yeah. But no, I think it's a, I think it's, I don't remember how it's still the shocker who cares. I do. You know what? Apparently you don't, despite your everlasting knowledge of a no limit records.
Starting point is 00:05:07 In terms of that misspeaking, I would like to say it ain't my fault. Did I do that? It ain't my fault. All right. What do we had? Did we already say that you know a lot about Alex Jones? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Also, spoiler alert. Silk, the shocker and mystical did silk. Duh. Thank you very much. They did two versions of it. Ain't my fault because they wanted to put one out on each of their albums. Right. But unlike, unlike a lot of these assholes, I'm talking about Michael McDonald
Starting point is 00:05:35 and Kenny Loggins. How dare you? They would make, you are not even allowed to put those names in your mouth, sir. Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins would do versions of like taking it to the streets, uh, and like, uh, this is it. Like they would write them together and then they would put them on the same. Like one, it would be, they'd be on both of their albums, but it would be the same song.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So if you just finished part one, this is exactly the pallet cleanser you need to get into part two. That's why I'm doing this. You can see that. My point is that it's a shocker and mystical when they did. It ain't my fault. You're still saying it wrong. Silk the shocker who cares.
Starting point is 00:06:17 All right. Uh, when they did, it ain't my fault. And it ain't my fault. Part two. Yep. Totally different songs just like this, uh, part one and part two of, uh, Monday's podcast episode and as for part one, it ain't my fault. It is Alex's fault entirely, entirely his fault.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Um, so we talked on the last episode about the Sunday episode. I wanted you to come up with a better transition than so we talked. Come on, Dan. I expect more of you. Speaking of expecting more. There you go. That was forced. I know a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Um, so, uh, we talked about the Sunday episode where, um, Owen Troyer introduced the idea of like, we need our own David Hogg. Right. Right. Right. Basically that garbage pile of shit being wrong and Alex loving it. And there wasn't really anything else, all that interesting that happened. So that would be left off of today's episode.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Well, Owen Troyer was there. Also left off of that, uh, today's episode is Monday, uh, the 26th. There's really nothing all that much that we need to talk about, except that, um, uh, Mike Sernovich shows up and, uh, Mike Sernovich accidentally reveals. I assume he has thoughts on the infinity war trailer. No, he, he's actually straight up being like, he's doing the, the move that I'm going to call the pro, uh, Paul Joseph Watson, which is, or just call it the Mike Sernovich from six months ago.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Okay. I'm done with Trump kind of thing. Right. Right. Right. Right. He's giving a lot of like Trump doesn't care about us. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Duh, you stupid motherfuckers. Yeah. You guys got, you guys got played by a pro. So he, uh, ends up, uh, expressing on this episode, something that I think is very fucked up. And that is, uh, uh, a mentality that really reveals that he kind of only cares about money. And so we'll listen to that really quick.
Starting point is 00:08:01 If I go on one little Christian station in Alabama and plug my videos, I would sell a thousand copies. I'd go on CNN and plug it and sell none that there's zombies watching. It's background noise. It's elevator music. People are not listening. Well, yeah. And actually NBC wanted to do a big interview with me and I told the guy who
Starting point is 00:08:23 seemed like a nice guy said, I go look me in no offense, but I'm just bored with people coming in and trying to bring up irrelevant stuff because it doesn't move the needle for me. Being on NBC for me just doesn't move the needle at all. Sixty minutes. I didn't sell any books. Alex, 15 million people watched. I sold zero books, not at all.
Starting point is 00:08:44 So I'm thinking my guy, I went on HBO vice. They spent 13 hours with me, 13 hours. I didn't sell one book of gorilla mindset from that video, but when I come on your show and I talk about how gorilla mindset has over a thousand reviews on Amazon and also a hundred and just like that, people go, oh, wow, over a thousand reviews on Amazon. Yeah, almost because we have an awake, active audience. That's one theory.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Another theory is that your viewers are dumber. Well, infowars is essentially the QVC for unemployable paranoid con men. Right. Uh, and so they just come on and do basically sales pitches. Yeah. And that's what he's doing there. We're, we're extending this sale for exactly one hour. To be fair, you are never going to, we're recording this on Easter.
Starting point is 00:09:30 The Easter sales, the Easter sales in effect for the, for the first time in a year, that joke is probably relevant. Um, so I mean, it's the, the rest of it, it's relevant. It's been the same sale since last year, more or less. Uh, so the rest of the show is just a lot of nonsense. A lot of him yelling about, uh, uh, David Hogg being, uh, like a globalist plant, David Hogg, they won our guns. It's all very, it's Gerald Slenty on.
Starting point is 00:10:02 It's not really all that interesting. So, uh, we do not, uh, need to discuss it. It's kind of, it is kind of fascinating to me that none of these people recognize how sad they are in attacking David Hogg. Like they, like Laura, that's fun. Like it's like more ingram and all of these people, like they're so ingrained in this concept of viciously attacking anyone who disagrees with them, that the moment, like they don't get that this is a child and this is a child who has
Starting point is 00:10:34 survived trauma that they will never understand that will never even be able to comprehend. And that might be a part of why, that's might be a part of why Trump appeals to them so much is that he has that complete sociopathy. Yeah. That same, just attack people, fuck the consequences, uh, kind of thing. Regardless of what or who those people are, like they, it is, it is kind of an interesting thing to realize that their defense, you know what, Alex Jones is
Starting point is 00:11:01 like his motto should just be fuck the context, you know, because that kind of behavior is that it's just eliminating the context and just being like, fuck, fuck it, always have the same mode of operation and that is attack. Slash lie. No, if there was a nine year old that was like, oh, no, if, if there was like a five year old baby with a YouTube video where their parents were like, Hey, how do you feel about Alex Jones? And the baby was like, fuck Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:11:31 He would be like, that baby's a fucking globalist and we need to kill that baby. He would start getting into like, some people are shockingly advanced at young ages. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's totally fine for me to call them pencil necks. He's probably an indigo child. Start flipping into a project Camelot. Why not?
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, by the way, I have two things I need to tell you. Yes. It was my sincere intention to surprise you with a Project Camelot episode for your first episode. Yeah, I know you. I, I, I'm disappointed in you. Well, here's why. I listened to an episode where she talked to a lady who talks to aliens.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And she mentioned that she had just gotten back from talking to Mark Richards. She went to Vacaville. No. Yeah. Okay. But we got part nine. Well, it's coming, but it hasn't come out yet. So I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 All right. We got it. Yeah, we got it. But it didn't come. And then the two episodes that she did do since then, one of them is about Parkland being a false flag. Nope. Definitely not doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And it reveals how much worse she is than we thought. No, we can't. She's, I wish you hadn't even told me that. That's gonna bum me out. And then she did an episode about the guy. I think you delight in ruining the world for me. Somewhat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:53 She also did an episode with these two guys who wrote a book about the real cowboys and aliens. Remember that movie? Yes, I do remember that movie. Harrison Ford and Craig, Daniel Craig, Daniel Craig. They wrote a book. Our two greatest smirkers. They wrote a book about it and it's so boring.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It's such a boring interview, except for one point where the one of the guys who she's interviewing was like, well, I can't lie. Me and this guy, we met each other in federal prison. Excellent. Excellent. One was in for distribution of methamphetamine. The other was in for fraud. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:36 All right. Insofar as he was selling fake methamphetamines. No, it was two different guys. They just found a share. No, that's what I'm saying. They're two different guys. They loved, they loved meth. So anyway, we get into Tuesday, the 27th.
Starting point is 00:13:55 This, this is where we get actual Alex Jones narratives finally popping back up, getting back into it. And here's the first one. Well, former Supreme court justice, John Paul Stevens is joined a chorus of other globalist calling for the repeal of the second amendment and nationwide gun confiscation. We've got his editorial for the New York times linked up on info wars.com. Now here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:14:24 John Paul Stevens wrote an editorial for the New York times called with a headline repeal the second amendment. Yes. Now, there's the problem. It's a big issue. That's the headline. Yeah. And Alex doesn't read stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No. And so if you actually read the argument that he's making, I did. It's a good argument. I'll lay it out for those who have not read it. The argument that he's making is that until 2008, there was not really an understanding that the second amendment provided for protection of individual ownership of guns. At that point, there was the district of Columbia versus Heller decision.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah. And that created the idea that the second amendment wasn't about a well ordered militia, and it was about your right to carry guns. Everybody. Yeah. Before that, the, and by the way, that was a five four decision with a very contentious Supreme court that stole an election. Who would have guessed that they would pull this bullshit?
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. It was not like a. Oh, yeah, across the board, the Supreme court, everyone agrees. But yeah. And before that, the second amendment was more or less understood in the historical context as being that the states had a right to keep a militia in case one of the other states attacked them or the federal government attacked them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You know, there's a real, there's a lot of, there's a lot of debate about intent. The thing that he did was he wrote a, an editorial that was based in legalese, essentially, he wasn't making an impassioned, like ideological argument. He was making a historical legal argument. Right. And admittedly, he's a piece of shit, but. Well, it was a good, it was a good argument. Well, but I think my favorite part of the article was when he quotes Chief
Starting point is 00:16:18 Justice Berger talking about the NRA, he said that in, in pushing the narrative that the second amendment means that everyone has the right to own and carry guns, that the NRA was perpetuating quote, one of the greatest pieces of fraud. I repeat the word fraud on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime, which is incorrect. He's a very old man. He's seen way worse fraud. Well, probably.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. But, but it doesn't take away from the fact that the, the, the, the thrust of what he means is this is bullshit. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's weird to come down on the side of John Paul Stevens whenever his many of his decisions and his votes have been so regressive towards racial injustice. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's been, it's been an issue for me how, how many of these people who come out and are suddenly like, here's what we should do. And this is awful in their lifetime prior to being retired or quitting, right? Have been truly horrific. Yep. Like it's, it's, it's so strange or, or like, it's like Sean Penn writing a novel that let's not talk about that. I can't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Well, all of it is just like sit down, man. Yeah. Just stop. Yeah. You think you're helping, but you're not. It's going to be what Alex Jones ends up doing once he turns on Trump. He'll be like, I can help take him down. Stop.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Right. Stop. Well, it's, it's like, um, the thing that, the thing that got me about when Hillary Clinton was asked about, uh, how people have told her, like, go away. Right. And her response was, well, none of the other presidents, none of these other males were told to go away. They were tacitly allowed to do all of this bullshit that they've done.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I think, I think Michael Dukakis was told to go away. He was, he was, and he did. He went away so fast. Yeah. And, and it was like, yes, you totally have a reasonable argument about sexism and how it has destroyed you. Sure. However, you have an unreasonable argument insofar as those fuckers should have
Starting point is 00:18:26 gone away too. Yeah. Like, unfortunately, you're right. You're right. They should have been told to go away in the same way that we're telling you now. Like that is, that is absolutely true. And the only, and one of the big reasons that you were told to go away and, and not allowed to do that is undoubtedly due to sexism, but also go away.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's, it's more, they should go away too. It's more Obama's actions immediately after his presidency. So many of those speaking engagements, so many of those lobbying issues where he's being paid obscene amounts of money to just be like, Hey, guess what? I'm the president. You guys ever, you guys ever hear me talk? It's pretty great. Like I, I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Obama should go away. Like, I get it. More of the fault is that we never told other people to go away and we should have been doing this all along. Exactly. But also I would argue that that is kind of a measure of sexism because no one got up in arms about how like, Hey, how, why haven't we told these people to shut up before?
Starting point is 00:19:29 Right. So even you were being a little bit. No, no, no, I agree. Yeah. I am totally, I totally recognize my own sexism involved with this, this situation. However, I have also said that Bill Clinton is a rapist. So there's that. Info wars, Ozu money.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I know, I don't know what to, I don't know what to say. Like maybe the only president who should continue talking is Jimmy Carter. But at the same time, when he was president, he was a pile of garbage. But I don't know, I don't know what to say. He doesn't have time to talk. He's too busy building houses for the homeless, which we appreciate. He's too busy atoning for his miserable mistakes. So I want to talk a little bit more about this John Paul Stevens thing because
Starting point is 00:20:10 it's sorry for derailing you into a weird, uh, it was fun. Both, both, uh, uh, admission of sexism and yet reinforcement of it. Yeah, it's very strange. Well, but here's, here's, I have bad opinions. Here's the issue with the, the John Paul Stevens article, because he's talking about DC versus Heller being the issue where we come into like people having the right to own guns as the interpretation of the second amendment. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It's all meaningless because if you actually read DC versus Heller, it, the second amendment they ruled is compatible with gun control. Yep. I'm going to read to you from the second page of DC versus Heller. They're the Supreme court decision quote, like many rights, the second amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.
Starting point is 00:21:01 For example, concealed weapon prohibitions have been upheld under the amendment or state analogs. The court's opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill or laws prohibiting, uh, prohibiting, uh, prohibiting the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. All of that, everything that Alex Jones complains about, everything
Starting point is 00:21:31 that all these gun right people are super afraid of, even in the decision that interprets the second amendment as being you have a right to carry guns. It ends, that's passage ends with it's compatible with laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms, which is registration, which is harder background checks, which is legitimately all that the rational minded people are asking for. Yeah. The only people who are asking for like no guns is basically me or Alex's
Starting point is 00:22:04 boogeyman. You know, here's my, here's my compromise. I would accept guns if they were regulated the same way as roller coasters. Like that kind of thing. Oh, you're not allowed to build a commercial roller coaster unless you're like, I read an interesting article about this. Like recently a kid died on a water slide, like a huge elaborate water slide, yes, and the guy who does fucking bad and the guy who designed
Starting point is 00:22:30 it is getting sued. Yeah. Alex isn't talking about that. No, it's, it's, it's the same thing. Like I'm fine. Look, people like to shoot guns and I respect that it's probably super fun. I should probably go shoot a gun. I should learn how to shoot a gun.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Eventually in order to obtain water, I will probably need one. I think one of our listeners is actually jacking off right now about the idea of taking your shooting. I someone posted about that in the group. That would be, that would be super cool. I think I did read that. That would be super cool. But if that was the only place where you were allowed to shoot guns as a
Starting point is 00:23:03 private citizen, that would be awesome. Like it would be great if guns were part of an amusement park. Sure. Not like a larger amusement park where people were nearby. I would imagine that you would have to get a permit to build a water slide in your backyard. Yeah. I would imagine that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I'm not entirely sure, but I don't, I think, I think you were allowed to build a water park in your backyard. I think you have to get a permit to have a pool in your backyard. That's a good point. So I think you probably would have to be some way licensed to like, you can take care of this and you're not going to hurt people. That'd be, that'd be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You shouldn't be allowed to just walk around with guns. Frankly, at this point, I don't think law enforcement should be allowed to walk around with guns. They're very irresponsible. Yeah. Based on them shooting that gun. Well, I mean, at this point, they shouldn't be allowed to drive. Like they, they hit that woman.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Like you and I texted, you literally said law enforcement is now is or perhaps always has been a, an inherently white supremacist organization. No, the goal of it is the defense of a white supremacist state. Yeah. You see that through the way that ICE operates. You see that through the way that cares if they kill black people all the time. No. Anyway, it's not to say all police officers are white supremacists, but it
Starting point is 00:24:25 is to say that the system that you participate in is white. It's the reverse of a composition fallacy. A composition fallacy is assuming that you are a part of a group. Therefore, the group is the same as you. And the reverse of it is to say, this is the character of the group. Therefore, you are exactly like exactly. Yes. And it is the, it is the same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:46 It's the, just because law enforcement seems to be about defending white rights and white property and all that and seems like that's the history of it. That doesn't mean that every cop is a white supremacist, but the system needs to be drastically changed. Here's, here's why I want to take this, I want to take this to a fun place. Okay. Sorry, I'm sorry. I want to just want to say one thing, which is that if you are, if you do want
Starting point is 00:25:13 to run for president, you should first submit to the death penalty preemptively. Like if you become president, if you do make it eight years, or whenever your term ends, you should willingly submit to being killed. Oh, like that's the only way to accept the responsibility for what you're doing. Interesting. Yeah. I think, I think that's a dystopian view, but I also dig it a little or, or life in prison, like, like the, the choices that you make, exile, whatever you do.
Starting point is 00:25:46 It's the same thing with like Solon. I talk about it way too much. Yeah, well, he's, he's kind of a big deal. But the idea of like, you make your changes, you rule as a statesman, and then you're fucking gone. Yeah, but he did that to himself. That was self-imposed. But also he did it strategically so no one could undo the laws he made.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Exactly. If, if I were to be, uh, um, like I, I kind of think, and this is something that I might, uh, wind up, uh, elucidating further through, uh, through writing, uh, is that I think I could, if I were elected supreme leader, uh, with complete autocratic powers, eyebrows up, I think I could fix everything, but before I would ever do that, I would submit to, I am going to be murdered at the end of my term. We are, because that's the only way you do, that's the only way to avoid becoming that autocratic dictator that so many communists and socialist, uh, countries
Starting point is 00:26:46 have wound up having. Like that's, that's how you get the Fidel Castro's. If Fidel had been like, we're going to complete this revolution, I'm going to do whatever it is I need to do, and then you guys get to murder me. That would wind up have, that would wound up have probably created a maybe stable democracy, maybe, or who knows, or it wouldn't have, but yeah, but you'd be dead. So are you exactly. And then another, uh, Tim pot dictator would, uh, show up and take over most
Starting point is 00:27:14 likely dead and then not submit themselves to, uh, almost certainly. So no, humanity is garbage and we should be, uh, removed to let the ants take over speaking of garbage. Humanity, there you go on the 27th. Alex Jones, uh, one of his guests, yes, uh, is Jack Pasoba. Who sucks? And we won't talk about it because he went down to the march for our lives and he saw a bunch of down to Georgia.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He saw a bunch of bosses and that's proof that Soros is in play. Great. So who's paying for these buses? I don't know. A bunch of disparate organizations. Yeah, or, or just, uh, one guy, you know, who knows, just a charter bus company. So who cares about that stuff? Everybody might have just bought a ticket.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Alex has another guest and it's a guest that he hasn't had on before. And I'm thrilled that he's showed up. Okay. This is a gentleman by the name of Ben Garrison. Do you know about Ben Garrison? I do not know anything about Ben Garrison. Ben Garrison is the, uh, favored political cartoonist of the alt right. No, I'm going to, uh, put your head, reject, put your head over here.
Starting point is 00:28:22 This is one of his political cartoons right here. This is one you can find on his website. It's about, uh, California being in a shootoff with Jeff sessions. Uh, if you look around here, you'll see, uh, the golden bear saloon here that welcomes immigrants. Uh, if you want to see this picture, it's also on knowledge fight.com. We have it. If you look in the saloon, no ice, no ice.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I get it. And if you zoom in, that guy right there, he has a gang written on his head. Great. Uh, also we have sessions labeled sanctuary labeled, uh, governor labeled California. I, I'm, I'm going to go on a limb here and I'm going to say, if you are going to be a political cartoonist, perhaps the cartoon itself should be, uh, uh, representative of what it is you're trying to say, as opposed to you just
Starting point is 00:29:07 writing it, like if he drew, that's his style, if he drew stick figures and just wrote there, that would be more than enough for what he's saying. His style is. Over-labeling. And if you look at his cartoons, it's almost comical. The extent he has to go, like he has to do so much work to make it, make sense by like, this is, right, exactly. Which means he's a bad cartoonist.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I argue that it is a sign of lack of craft, right? Uh, but I will say this. He shows up on in fours with a cowboy hat, which is pretty fun. All right. There we go. And he's substantial. Does the cowboy hat have his name on it? Because that is essentially what he does as a cartoonist.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Posted in the Facebook group, this is not a drill. Ben Garrison is on info wars because people clowned on him in the group before, uh, and immediately, I believe it was a policy wonk. Jim chimed in is the hat labeled. There we go. All right, Jim, you and I are on the same page. Uh, so Alex just keeps talking to him about like your work is perfect and all this.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Sure. It's very clearly cause he wants to sell, uh, coffee table books of his cartoons on the website. He makes it clear. And it's a very boring interview, except for one thing. You know what the best part of graphic novels are? Is that they never let the images speak for themselves. Never.
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's the best part of graphic novels that they always overlabel every panel. I would say that like the far side often left you up to you to, there would be the caption and not like. Bear. It wouldn't be like, there wouldn't be somebody holding a basketball and then a label saying basketball player sport. Yeah, exactly. Sportist.
Starting point is 00:30:55 The only thing that's interesting about this entire interview is that Alex Jones, uh, has a breakdown of equipment. Uh, and so as he's trying to go to the interview with Ben Garrison, his earpiece breaks, oh, this is my favorite. My favorite is whenever you can't hear somebody talk, even though they're trying to talk or whenever Alex can't hear anything. So here's how it plays out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I don't need to impress on listeners and viewers that I've got a broken headpiece and I can't hear it all now. So when I get another one, we'll get Ben Garrison on. So, so when he gets another earpiece and he doesn't need to impress this on the listeners, so he does that. And then maybe 20 seconds later, he's like, Ben, I'll say you. And then just has Ben Garrison vamp. He just has him vamp.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Okay. Like Ben Garrison just starts talking about stuff and Alex can't respond to it. And, uh, it's funny cause in the middle of one of Ben Garrison's rants, uh, Alex accidentally turned his mic on and you can hear him yelling at the staff about his earpiece. No shit. So here's that. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And Carl Marx says a democracy. I'll do two hours of good things if it's on the road. I do two hours of the broken head. Well, this dumb asshole. This dumb asshole is trying to talk about Carl Marx. Alex suddenly pops his mic up. It's crazy. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Such amateur hour. I'm, I'm a big fan of every time. And like whenever he's like, Oh, I don't use a teleprompter. And it's like, Oh, that's because you're a shit broadcaster and you don't fucking have any professionalism whatsoever. Zero. So also at the, uh, that's fine because you're not broadcast on any actual radio stations and you can plug in.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, yeah. Uh, on this episode also he, uh, starts doing a lot of Star Wars talk. All right. Now I'm in that he feels a disturbance in the force. Uh, I was hoping for a more nuanced look at, uh, the last Jedi, which is a fantastic film I recommended to everybody. I haven't seen it. It's, uh, so good.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Let me tell you something that Luke Skywalker character. Pretty interesting. Interesting. Yeah. I'm, uh, as excited to see this as, uh, the new Jurassic world. God damn. No, you can't fuck the Jurassic world movie. This is Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The last Jedi. I prefer dinosaurs. Anyway, uh, dare you. Alex is doing a lot of like, uh, the war is coming kind of stuff. Like rare, I know something's coming right here's when the first order, like when the first order attacks the, uh, leftover rebellion. We just started the war to take this country back and it's not going to be a cakewalk.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It's not a joke. This isn't a game. They're not libtards folks. They're hardcore criminals on top with a bunch of dumbed down, mindless, alone people that are scared and desperate, who think they're going to become successful as soon as they get your guns and run your life. Now, as I said earlier, this is so important for fun in the operation. Plus you've never tried it.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I think once you try it, you're going to love it because we went out and studied the top new tropics in the country. At pivot, baby. Hey, there you go. There's a war coming, but I need money. Please give me money. Always. So that's, uh, that's about the 27th.
Starting point is 00:34:14 He talks to Jack Pasobak talks to Ben Garrison, but again, Ben Garrison, I wish it was more interesting than it was. It just revealed to me that Ben Garrison is fucking stupid. And he's bad. That's all I got. That's all I got. So we move on to the 28th now it's Wednesday. He's no more Saul.
Starting point is 00:34:28 I'll tell you that right now or, um, what else you got? Who did Dunesbury, Burke Brefford? No, he did Bloom County. Yeah. Yeah. Who did Dunesbury? Gary, Gary, Gary Trudeau. Gary Trudeau did that.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I'll be goddamn. Yeah. All right. I loved Bloom County. That was so great. Bloom County is very good. Have you been reading? It's a great graphic novel.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It's fantastic. It's a horror comic. I've loved it. So good. So good. Steve Dallas. Welcome to the tangent episode of Knowledge Fight. Steve Dallas was the best.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So cool. So cool, but such a flawed, terrible character. All right. Anyway, now we move on to the 28th, which is Wednesday. And Alex has some, some other narratives he's pitching. So we're going to have a look at some of the great things and Alex has some, some other narratives he's pitching. The first one is about China.
Starting point is 00:35:26 He mostly talks about China for about the first hour. All right. Here's a. What could he, what would it be like? Is he mad that they've descended into a dictatorship? Because I feel like he's on board with dictatorships now. And it's not like this is a unnatural path they're going down. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It's very similar to how they have been for a while. Much like Russia, autocracy is kind of a jam of theirs. Well, but that's. It's like playing the hits. So that's the thing is Alex complains about China, not because he cares about China, but because he's providing cover for what's going on in Russia. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:57 It's always like, oh, everyone says that everyone says that Putin's a dictator, but what about the chai comms? It's just his. No, I'm pretty sure we're all on board with the dictators becoming dictators. Yeah, you better point that shit out. Yeah, it's both. It's not one or the other.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Anyway, here's some dumb shit. China is in control of our telecommunications control grid. It controls all the numbers. EMS, everything. I told you about that years ago. It's finally in the news only because we have Trump in there. That's the problem. If the Russians were in control of our telecom switching keys,
Starting point is 00:36:33 I'd be going crazy. They have given their code keys last month to communist China. Reuters. Right. That top experts on. They suggest it's the keys to the kingdom. You know, the movie Elysium when they get the roof keys for the space station, he goes, he's got the keys to the
Starting point is 00:36:54 kingdom. That's what it is. This is insane. No, it's not. Yeah, sounds insane. We've talked about this already. Sounds like that's what it is. In reality, what it is is that Google gave the encryption keys
Starting point is 00:37:06 to China of Chinese iCloud customers. Now, let me tell you something. Yeah. If his listeners have seen the movie Elysium, I would be surprised. Just by going off box office receipts, not a hugely popular film. They've heard his review.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah. That's all just a lie. That's all just him projecting whatever he learned from that movie onto his version of reality. Because the encryption keys that they gave to China, and they didn't give it to China, but they basically did. They gave it to a local company in China. Right, which is essentially the same.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Considering that it is owned by the government. And they shouldn't have done that. Google should not have done that. But it's not giving encryption keys to the entire world. They're very different things. It's just the Chinese iCloud customers. Furthermore, China has not hacked into our telecom system. Russia has.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Interesting. But it's just a way of Alex not really giving information. But what he does do on this episode is something we love. It's some solid whataboutism. Right, exactly. I mean, that's what the game is at the end of the day. In this next clip, Alex Jones does what we love best. And that is do an impression of Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yay! Bernie Sanders. I won a vacation in China. And I had my honeymoon in Russia in 1971. Ah! Ah! Ah! These are demons.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Big selfish pig creatures. Oh, my God, help me from these people. I smell an ad pivot. No, no ad pivot. No, God damn it. Just exasperation. Because he got wind of doing that. Is Bernie Sanders also a siren?
Starting point is 00:38:55 Is that? Must. Weird. Guys, the flood's coming. Yeah, that's very strange. So one of the other narratives that he's pitching is actually a new one here on the 28th of March on Wednesday. And that has to do with...
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's been a while since we've gotten a new narrative. Not really, because we've got the John Paul Stevens narrative. Yeah, but that just ties into the old narratives. We've got bad news. This one does too. Oh, God damn it. But it's a new wrinkle on it, and I actually have some really interesting information on the other side.
Starting point is 00:39:26 All right. This one. Is it about Black Panther? This one is about Muslims and Sweden. Oh, all right. Muslims and Swedes. Go to the officialswedesgovernment.com. The officialswedesgovernment has put out handbooks for Muslims to explain how to have sex with
Starting point is 00:39:41 their children. Because, I guess they're just saying we accept that you have child brides, Mohammed married a nine-year-old, and so you can actually read the manual being put out nationwide. Tweeters government releases brochure for migrants legitimizing child marriage. You just can't make this up. Yes, you can. So I can't find this brochure because- It doesn't sound like the Swedish government. The only thing I can find on this is an article on Infowars written by Paul Joseph Watson
Starting point is 00:40:11 that they only have a, their only citation is tweets from a guy who's talking about it. Infowars, we bring you the latest tweets from a guy. And what it appears to be is that the brochure talks about people who have married underage folks in other countries and then immigrate about how they recognize the marriage. But also recommend that people don't, adults don't live with or marry anyone under the age of 15 because that's fucked up. It's, yeah, that's a weird place for Sweden to be because they are trying so much to understand
Starting point is 00:40:54 and respect everybody, almost to a, to a, to a, an overdone extent that of course they're going to be like, we are trying to include everyone. And yes, we get that your culture is weird in that way, but also please don't do that. But I would also posit, what are you going to do if someone was married at a different age than you deem acceptable in a different country, do you say? You can't invalidate that, right? Or could you? You could, but there would be implications.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Like I don't, I don't know. Statecraft is very interesting and international relations. I don't know if you want to broach that subject. Right. Because if you are doing that, what you, like if you do say, if you come to this country, right, if we invalidate what you have done in your other country, that is another way of saying you're not allowed to come here. I do think that marrying people who are minors is wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Super wrong. And Ted Nugent did it. So that's fun. Right. Ted Nugent married a girl who was 17 in order for her parents not to complain when he was trying to have sex with her. Weird. Also.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't marry her. He adopted her. Yeah. That's one of the weird things. Not married. Ted Nugent says that she blew him when she was 12. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:21 So who among us? Also spoiler alert. Ted Nugent is a guest on Thursday. Yeah. Kiss my ass. That's a song of his. It's, it's strange that he often takes the moral high ground. Weird.
Starting point is 00:42:32 It's strange that so many of these people who have committed so many sex crimes often take the moral high ground and appear as pundits on Alex Jones's show where they talk about Muslims want to have sex with your kid. Hey, fuck it. At this point, they're starting to appear on CNN as pundits. It's nuts. Yeah. Someone made a really good point.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I regret that I don't remember who it was and I can't pull it up now. But on the Facebook group, someone made a really good point about Ted Nugent, but everyone just, the right just buying into the mythology of him and ignoring the reality of who he is as a person. I can't imagine the right ever doing anything like that. Like he dodged the draft and bangs kids who would like, like the right would never accept somebody like that. They would never elect multiple people like that as president.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Back to this Sweden issue. I want to ask you who you know about this. Did you know that girls as young as 12 can be married in Uruguay? 14 in Venezuela, 14 in Belarus, 14 in Bolivia, 12 in Colombia, 14 in Cuba, 12 in Ecuador, 14 in El Salvador, 14 in Guatemala, 15 in Lithuania, 14 in Mexico, 14 in Nicaragua, 14 in Panama, 14 in Tanzania, 12 in Trinidad and Tobago. None of these are Muslim countries. These are just countries that have different cultural values than us.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And I'm not saying it's right. I think there's developmental problems that exist there, but when you play the game that Alex is playing and he tries to present it as a Muslim issue of child bribing and what have you, what if someone immigrates to Sweden from Colombia and they married someone who was 12 or so that's not a Muslim issue. That is a patriarchy and male-female issue. That's more to the point. When you get down to it, as I've said before or as we've said before, it's dudes.
Starting point is 00:44:23 It's not religion. It's not all of this other shit. It's dudes. It's men. Any time you have a patriarchal system, fucked up shit is going to happen. And Alex scapegoats Muslims for it because he decides. Because he definitely can't scapegoat men. So now I'd like to talk to you about this.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Also in the United States, I quote, most states allow marriages at 16 and 17 with parental consent. And some states also make exceptions subject to judicial improvement or cases of pregnancy. When all exceptions are taken into account, 25 United States have no minimum age requirement for marriage. That's not okay. Quote, in Florida, 16,400 children, some as young as 13, have been married since 2000, which is the second highest incidence of child marriage after Texas.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Well not just that, but it's also one of those things where many of these cultures groom children for marriage. Even if there is no sexual contact, there is still like, you're 12, we have promised you. And so even if you're 14, you're married to this guy, you're not living with this guy. But you are married to him. And now your dad is telling you how to treat your husband, like all of that shit. And it's important to point out these aren't all Muslims.
Starting point is 00:45:44 No, they're mostly Christians. You do find that often. So many of them. Like everyone likes to point the finger at, like I had a buddy who, when I was growing up, he was an Indian. I guess his parents were Hindu, but he wasn't. He was just sort of a cool dude. Kind of a dude.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, he's a good dude. And his parents were very insistent that he wanted, they wanted to arrange a marriage. Right. And he bucked back against that and it was a little bit of an issue for them. But then now he's married to someone on choice and what have you. Weird. Yeah. Shouldn't have done that.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And everything is fine. Everything is great. He went over and actually had the marriage in India. Right. And everything is awesome. But there are cases like that. That's not a Muslim issue. Well, recently, recently in the news was somebody who, it was a,
Starting point is 00:46:32 It was a young woman, it was a young woman who rejected her parents arranged marriage and they threw hot oil at her and they abused her in so many different ways. And it's like, that is the actions of insane people. That's why it's news. It's not the actions of the religion as a whole or the people as a whole or the culture as a whole. Right. Most of the people in that culture would be like, Hey, we get that arranged marriage
Starting point is 00:47:01 is part of our culture, but that's still fucked up. Totally. And on this episode, Alex gets a bit into, he has a guest on who wants to talk a ton about female genital mutilation and about how the Muslims are doing too much of it. And any is too much of it. Agree. Any is too much. But if you actually, if you look into it and you look into what the Quran says.
Starting point is 00:47:20 But again, you get down to dudes. Right. But if you look at what the Quran says and interpreters of Islamic law, they don't support that. It's not that the Orthodox Islam does support that. Right. There is a verse about circumcision, but it's very specific about how you should not do harm to people.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Right. And, and so it's crazy, but I want to talk about this further because I need to drive home the point. You really acted like I was about to interrupt you. No, I just want to drive home that point that 16,400 children in Florida, central accents, 2000 have been married, which is the second highest incidence. The highest is Texas. You know, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Occupied Texas. You know, it's weird. That seems low to me. Yeah. Those people are fucked up. The data shows that often a girl age 15 or younger who cannot legally consent to sex in Florida was pregnant or had a baby and then married an adult man. In each of these instances, the girl's rapist were handled, handed a marriage license rather
Starting point is 00:48:28 than a prison sentence. In most cases, the exploitative practice takes place inside families or hidden from public view. The few brave women who have spoken out about being pushed into marriage as children have shared horror stories. Notably, Sherry Johnson from Tampa tells of being pushed to marry her rapist by her parents, when she was only 11 years old, and then being trapped in an abusive marriage for many years. Who would have guessed?
Starting point is 00:48:51 There are situations like this and it has nothing to do, often it has nothing to do with religion. It has nothing to do with the culture. It has nothing to do with the idea of not bringing shame to the family. That's not a Muslim idea. That's just people ideas that's based in ego. It goes back to that idea of looking at your children as an extension of yourself as opposed to an individual.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So many laws allow for a man to rape a woman and if she gets pregnant, he is given custody. He is given visitation rights. Yeah, it's crazy. You're forced to now have the rapist who fucking destroyed your life regardless of whether or not you can rebuild it. He destroyed everything and he is now a part of your life forever. Yeah. Oh, here's the answer.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Insane. So, Alex also has an interview with someone named Shazia Hobbs and she is a former Muslim who was forced to have an arranged marriage when she was 18. This is not going to go away. And she talks a bit about the female genital mutilation and I support her. In terms of that, in terms of her campaign of that, I do support her. What I don't support is she's from the United Kingdom and is working with Tommy Robinson. That's not good.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It appears that there's more going on there. But you know what's weird is that I've started, oh, here's the quote I wanted to read. Yes, yeah. From this Islamic law scholar, Dr. Abd al-Rahman Hassan al-Nifsa, nafsah, quote, in Islamic law, preservation of the person, the life and bodily soundness of the person is a legal necessity. Anything that compromises this legal necessity by bringing harm to a person is unlawful. This is an interpretation of something that the Prophet Muhammad said, and I quote, trim
Starting point is 00:50:48 but do not cut into it, for this is brighter for the face and more flavorable for the husband, which is still misogynistic. I still don't like any of that. No, I don't like it either. But also, I don't like, I don't, I just don't like the concept of meeting a scholar of religious bullshit law. That's bullshit. Like we've done that with Christianity.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. We're already in the wrong just by requiring somebody who studies it constantly to more accurately be wrong. Yeah. Let's move on. Yeah. Because I don't think we're going to. Yeah, we're not going to solve this.
Starting point is 00:51:27 We're not going to solve it. No. Anyways, organized religion is bullshit. Justifies it to say that Alex Jones is wrong. Child marriage happens under his very nose in Texas in white families all over the place, and it is an issue that has to do with patriarchal systems to do general, but I mean, moms are guilty of it too. It's not, it's not just, and maybe they're responding to pressure from their husbands.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it's safe to, I don't know if it's safe. I don't know if it's fair to say that it's necessarily all dudes in it is it is it traceable to do it comes historically from the male. Obsession of purity. Yeah. You know, that sort of idea, certainly.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Which is a weird idea in and of itself. I think it's traceable to that, but I think the current manifestation, you could find a like, let's say a single mom household where she behaves this way towards her daughter right without a male influence. Right. I think it's possible, but I do agree with you historically. Anyway, who cares? What I want to talk to you about is how agro Alex is getting on this episode.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Great. He's getting fucking furious. Here's the first clip where he gets really, really messed up. Amazing silver products. It's all there. And when you fund us, you absolutely let Soros and see it in all the anti free speech authoritarian lion scum. No, they'll never break America's will.
Starting point is 00:52:52 They'll never break humanity and they'll never eradicate Christianity. And we're just now waking up and you're in the dustbin of history and we hate your stinking criminal, slimy, filthy guts, maggots. So that's the first one. That's a hard way to get out of an ad. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's one of the weirder ad pivots in generally speaking, we get the screaming
Starting point is 00:53:14 about nonsense so loudly. And then the ad pivot. This one is the ad pivot turning into screaming about nonsense. Yeah. And it's kind of the mood he's in on this episode here on the 28th. He's in a violent fucking mood. Here's here's my question to you that I think only you have a I love questions point of view that especially ones that derail the situation.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I think this one actually is relevant. I'm listening. We have, if not conclusively proven proven to a very solid extent that the larger portion of his funding has to come from dark money, not his listeners. Yeah. Well, or listeners that only listen to him online. I think that's entirely possible. But even that, but why reference back to the idea that he's not on many radio stations.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yeah. Well, not just that, but there's no, there's no way to reconcile. If you look on his proper YouTube channels, what you'll see in terms of like his actual long form shows, those aren't posted on the real Alex Jones channel. They're posted on another channel, the one Gibson channel, which clearly is affiliated with Alex naturally and that posts all of the long form videos and you see that like maybe, maybe 10,000, 20,000 people watch the actual show. Now the numbers that Alex gets for his three minute clips are higher and you might have
Starting point is 00:54:41 like 50,000 people who are watching these clips, maybe a hundred thousand if it's something like really salacious, but that doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't add up to the millions of dollars he needs to run the operation. Yeah. So why is it that he's so, is he so aggressive as a cover tactic? Or is it because it's not, it's not fiscally possible for him to obtain the amount of money he has with the listenership or the viewership that we see. I would pause it.
Starting point is 00:55:12 So why is it that he's so like, does he have to be aggressive? Here's what I would suggest. Yeah. I think that he's getting money from somebody to bolster the operation. Yeah. I don't know who that is. Probably the Mercers. That's an attractive option.
Starting point is 00:55:26 The Koch brothers in the past are a very attractive option. Of course. Sheldon Adelson is an attractive option. Yep. Any of these. All billionaires who should be beheaded. Any of these Koch related think tanks, the Center for American Prosperity, Freedom Works, those sorts of things are, are attractive possibilities, but since we can't prove any
Starting point is 00:55:45 of that, I don't know, but I am certain based on what he needs to pay to make this happen. Yeah. Rent, he must be paying on that studio space, which we found and figured out round about what he's paying. And rent, there's no way he's doing it with the audience that he has. Yeah. So why is it then that he is so, well, this guy, why is he such an aggressive salesman when clearly his sales, here's what I'm getting to.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Here's what I was getting to. Yeah. Building up to this. It's possible that he has an allowance or whatever from whoever's bolstering him. Okay. And the money that comes in from all this other stuff, fun bucks, boat money, you know, or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Okay. If you're accustomed to a certain lifestyle and shit and you're like sugar daddy is like, we're going to give you, we're going to keep you afloat. All right. So he's, he's got an endowment and then his viewers provide him with a six flags money. That's what I'm guessing that's the best way I can sort of contextualize it. But again, I can't prove any of this. This is just what the, it's just mathematically impossible for it not to be true.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Well, it's just what the facts on the ground lead me to believe. Yeah. And I'm, I'm looking into stuff. I'm, I hopefully will be able to figure some of this out eventually, but because of the way that these think tanks and foundations operate, they don't have to report who they give money to and shit like that. So a lot of that public is not publicly available. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Hey, sit in the United. You're great. Absolutely. A fantastic thing that happened to our country. So in this next clip, Alex Jones continues being fucking aggro. There's a spirit and the average leftist has now fully downloaded it. They are the average leftist is a dumb, stupid, empty zombie. Sounds right.
Starting point is 00:57:41 And they will suck your soul so fast because what's the zombie one? It wants brains because it ain't got it. It's metaphysical. All right. Cool, cool, cool. That's not violent at all. I don't think a zombie wants brains because they don't have them. No, that's the, I think it's more sustenance.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That's scarecrow, baby. Like we, we don't eat haunches because we don't have our own. You know what I'm saying? I'm not sure I have good haunches. Yeah, but I would eat them. I still haven't. I mean, it's all just horse shit, you know, it's all just, it's all violent, rhetoric, the average leftist is the enemy.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Right. That sort of thing. The average one. That's the thing. Yep. Like whenever, not, not, not your high level globalist, whenever we talk about the enemy, it is not the average person. No, the average person is usually at the end of the day, like a good person.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I go way out of my way to make that clear. Yeah. Yeah. The average, uh, conservative is just, you know, uh, easily influenced and, and kind of dumb and all those things. Usually well-meaning and doesn't realize how far, uh, the mainstream of the right has gone, right, uh, towards this shit. It is the, it is the Cambridge Analytica's.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's the Mercer's. It's the Koch brothers. It's all of these people, not the average conservative. It's a fucking billionaire. Yeah. Now this next clip is even worse. This is violent as shit. Great.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I realized this injustice is going on and I realized the only reason I grew up somewhat free was because my forebears were tough and didn't get pushed around and stood up for decency and veterans, all the Michael Moore's and all the glorious times everybody else has been covering up all this crap. You better know this. I know your trash. I know your filth. I know you're totally fake psychopathic people that have written off humanity
Starting point is 00:59:33 and think this is all cute and funny. And I'm sick of you moralizing and grandstanding about how you care about everybody when everything you do is pure stinking garbage. I just want you to know Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, the globalist, Michael Moore, Lord Rothschild, the Rockefellers, all of them, listen up. You hate everybody because you hate yourself, your filth, your garbage. So you want us to all exterminate ourselves and depopulate? I got an idea.
Starting point is 01:00:01 How about you slit your own throat or jam some ice picks in your own eyes? How about you hang yourself tonight? If you want us to die, I say you need to die first. I curse you. Boy, that is the most aggressive projection I think I've ever heard. Yeah, it's pretty projecty. I mean, I don't know how else to describe it. I mean, it's just sort of talking about yourself.
Starting point is 01:00:23 That is Alex avoiding dealing with the fact that he wants to kill himself a little bit. I mean, he's talked about wanting to kill himself before. Exactly. The other day, like a week and a half ago, I wish I had the clip of this. He's just like, I'm miserable. Oh my God, is my kids in this fight. This supports this supports every argument we've made about his transition over time. Yeah, this is not.
Starting point is 01:00:44 This is this is Alex, man, like wishing that he could go back to the highwaymen. This is why don't you slit your own throats? Because God, oh, I don't think I'm a good person. I think I might be evil. If tomorrow when I'm listening to the show, he comes in from break with Eddie money, I want to go back, go back and do it. I can't go back. I know who if he comes back, then I'll know like, oh, that'll be, it'll be, uh, you
Starting point is 01:01:17 know, it's already telling enough that he comes back from break with Tarzan boy. Oh, no. Anyway, in this next clip, um, Alex Jones has, uh, uh, he takes a bunch of calls, uh, on this here 28th, March 28th episode. And one of them is of note. The rest of them are boring as hell. This one is Debbie and Nebraska calls in. Have we heard, I feel like we've heard from Debbie.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I'm not sure. I don't, I don't, I don't recognize her voice, but, uh, I'm really only on the radar for, uh, the guy was the house phone in Wyoming. I only know his voice for sure. Um, but, uh, Debbie and Nebraska makes some really fucked up points, uh, about women needing to carry guns. And here's the first of them. I mean, I had one conversation with a woman and she was just curious.
Starting point is 01:02:02 She said, well, why don't you conceal that? Why don't you have it under your coat? And I said, well, let me ask you this. I said, if you and I were to walk out in the parking lot right now, and there was a psycho nut job in the parking lot that was looking for a woman to kidnap and rape, like out of the two of us, who do you think he's going to pick? And there was this long pause and you could almost hear the click in her brain. And she said, well, it's not going to be you.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And I said, exactly. I only need to be a harder target than one other person. No, I was actually kind of on board until the end. That's so fucked up. I was, I was like, maybe if women all carried guns and, you know, we would have a whole different circumstance. I mean, my women are generally speaking on the tail end of all of the violence. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So maybe that's a different story. And then she ends it with that old like, I only have to outrun the person that's next to me while we're being chased by a bear. It's lion gazelle type. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're wounded because you don't have a gun. So I'm going to get away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Why not? Why not be like, I don't understand. Like I'm not judging her too harshly, but I don't understand why her line isn't. I have a gun so I can protect you too. It doesn't seem like she's interested in whether or not her friend lives or dies. It seems like it's, it's the same argument. Yeah. It's just as easy to say that.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And the fact that she isn't means maybe she doesn't give a fuck. Maybe she doesn't give a fuck. Now, what's interesting about this call is that Alex pivots and does this. Maybe she's more like a, like a Jesus character, you know, like teach a woman to murder, you know, murders once. No, no, give a woman a murder weapon. She's going to murder all the time. There you go.
Starting point is 01:03:51 But Alex gets fucking horny. He gets hard as shit. I don't like that during this call and here's what ends up happening. I had talked to one girl. She came up to me and she goes, well, I have a restraining order. I'm like, baby, that, that just piece of paper. It is not going to stop a gunner knife. You need to get a gun.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I said, do you have a gun? And she goes, no, I'm like, wow, two have a gun. She goes, well, I don't know how to get one. So I spent 30 minutes explaining to her how you get your purchase permit. Here's how you get a concealed care. Here's where you can take classes. You know, you need to protect yourself because the police are not going to get there.
Starting point is 01:04:25 And I'm not hitting on you, Deborah, but this is really sexy. A woman going to teach other women how to use guns. Gross. No, gross. No, gross. No, gross. Also, you could just spend five minutes going like, look, you can get all that permit shit, but you go to a gun show.
Starting point is 01:04:46 They'll just fucking give you one, but also so gross, so gross. Any time anyone is like, I'm not hitting on you, but they're hitting on you. Yeah. And Alex, that's the I'm not a racist, but of sexual assault. Exactly. And the way he's sexualizing this call is just like she she didn't call for that. And then grant it a fetish. It's women teaching other women how to use guns seems to be there.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Are there are there porn hub videos of that? Probably not porn hub, but alt-right porn hub. Yeah. Second amendment hub. Something like that. Yeah, probably. I mean, it's gross though, just like the way that they like that call was not sexual in any way and the way that he introduces that it was well,
Starting point is 01:05:30 he wouldn't do that if she was a male disagree, disagree. That was violent, which to Alex is sexy. But at the same time, if it was a guy saying like, I want to teach other dudes how to shoot, he wouldn't say it was sexy. He would say that's admirable. That's noble. That's patriotic or something like that. He's only doing that because she's a woman.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Yeah. I mean, he can only ultimately sexualize women in the same way that, you know, he has to describe them as women are being put on a pedestal. Right. Because that's the same concept. It's a power thing. And I'm glad you brought that up because here's something else he says on this show.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Oh, no. The West worships women. Oh, no. And in many other ancient cultures, that was the case. But in the West, women are worshiped as the Holy Grail. And so that's that's why women got empowered in the West because they're worshiped in the West. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:06:25 What's a fun? Oh, boy. Dan, Dan. That's a fun. Let me ask you a question. Did women get, did women get the right to vote because they were worshiped? Took a feel like it wasn't that. Took 144 years after America was founded for that to happen.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Something fucking different. Maybe it wasn't fucking worship. Maybe it was women all coming together and being like, this is fucking bullshit and not even all women, like a smaller percentage of women. Hey, George, then any of us would really fucking expect. Hey, George, it's fucking. Oh, it's because they were worshiped worshiped because of worshiped men gave them the right to vote.
Starting point is 01:07:03 It's not because they fought for the right to vote. No, men gave it to them because of their worship of women. So you're just talking about the right to vote. I want to talk about a couple of more really fun things that people don't talk about all that much. Oh, yeah. Did you know that until 1922 women lost their citizenship if they married a foreigner, because it was just assumed that they would take on the foreign status
Starting point is 01:07:26 of their husband because they were subservient. Also women. Wait, that's real women. They lost it. That's not even a thing. And that's not even a thing. That was until 1922. And then get this, they continued until 1931 if the man was Asian, because we
Starting point is 01:07:43 hated Asians. Oh, well, that makes sense, though. Also, did you know that it was completely legal to not allow women to practice law in the United States until 1971? It was just, you could just bar women from getting their, their bar exam because they're women until 1971. The Supreme Court is that because the law would hurt their brain? They're too emotional.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I feel like John Paul Stevens actually voted for that. It's possible, but, but he might, but he might have voted on the right side of it. Doubt it. That's crazy. That's crazy levels of like, uh, if that's worshiping, that's not good. It doesn't get more worshiping than not allowing women to know the law. No, they could know it. They just can't practice it.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Ugh, fucking Christ. And did you know that until after 170 1971? 1971. And also, did you know that, uh, so America was founded in 1776 and then 172 years later, right? The Supreme Court heard a case and they decided that women could be barred from being bartenders at bars that weren't owned by male relatives because quote, the profession of bartending could potentially lead to
Starting point is 01:08:58 moral and social problems for women. Oh, well, I mean, hey, you can't, you can't argue with that. It took 172 years to get to a bad decision. Also, uh, until 1970, it was legal for airlines not to hire stewardesses if they were married until 1975. It was completely legal to exclude women from juries just because they were women. I really think 40% of men should be dead tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:09:26 It's insane. All of these weird, like things like inter whenever people talk about women's rights, they only talk about the basic things. Yeah, like abortion, yeah, isn't even basic. Yeah, to some extent. But, uh, they talk about the right to vote, suffrage and stuff like that. So you don't talk about like the ability to work in various professions. The right to abortion was guaranteed before the right to work on a plane.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Well, unless you weren't married because they wanted single people who could be flirty and fun. I, it's pretty crazy, man. I mean, but that's the same thing as, uh, I mean, that's still going on now. Aren't there, uh, aren't there restaurants that can, uh, reject women who aren't attractive anymore because, uh, they're, they're, they're classifying their waitresses or, or, uh, waitstaff as performers. I believe that you risk, uh, getting in trouble for that.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I think, I think that there are laws on the books from my understanding, uh, that you can, you can run afoul with the law. Everywhere though, but, but I think a lot of those instances, you might be talking about like strip clubs and stuff like that. Yeah, but that's the thing is that they're independent contractors. They're not employees, but like, uh, well, exactly. Like, uh, what is it? Uh, your, your tilted kilts or, or whatever, like those bullshit, like
Starting point is 01:10:46 your Hooters or whatever, they, they classify their employees as such and such in order to get away with, well, then we might, if you don't lose five pounds, you get fired. Well, we're talking about a secondary issue. I'm talking about, I'm just, I'm just saying like that's, it's not like that is entirely gone. No, totally not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:05 And, and, uh, but I'm more interested in the broad strokes of like women were disallowed from all this shit for so long in the interest of protecting them. Wow. So if that's what Alex is talking about in terms of the West worshiping women, I want none of it. And I don't think anybody does and it's a bullshit. I think, I think a lot of people do. I think it's just that the, the type of person we are down.
Starting point is 01:11:34 So now we move on to the 29th. Alex has sexually harassed a, uh, caller and then yelled about how the West worships women, which is great. God, that's brutal. And now we get onto the, the, uh, the 29th screaming mostly about how, uh, Islam wants to fuck kids. Unfortunately, his two guests on the show is three guests, but two of them are Ted Nugent, who, uh, became a 17 year old girl's legal guardian.
Starting point is 01:12:00 So he could have sex with her and may or may not have gotten a blow job from Courtney Love when she was 12. Isn't that also, and he was 29. He was 29 when Courtney Love allegedly blew him. But isn't it also illegal to adopt someone in order to have sex with them? I think it's a murky gray area, especially since he was 17. I feel like that's also an issue. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:12:20 The fact that it is a murky area seems very difficult for me to deal with. His other guest is Tommy Robinson, uh, Tyler Garbage, and, uh, he has, uh, famously tried to pick up on a, uh, a couple of 15 year old girls on Twitter. Yeah, great. So great. Hey, great team, man. Well, but I mean, if Alex wants to do this whole like, uh, ad campaign, basically about Muslims wanting to fuck your kids, choose better guests.
Starting point is 01:12:49 So that's most of the show. And then he has a guy on named Mark Moreno. You can't choose better guests, though, because the only people who support what it is you're bullshit saying are the people you're talking about. Exactly. But that's the thing. They're the only ones who are going to come out and say that the thing that you're talking about makes any fucking sense.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Maybe. So he has another guest on named Mark Moreno, and it's about climate change being bullshit. It's a climate change denier. Do you know about Mark Moreno? I've heard the name before. He runs a site, a website called climate depot. Here's what you need to know about climate depot.
Starting point is 01:13:22 You can, uh, do they do free shipping if you spend over $500? Probably. Okay. It's a project that's funded and created exclusively by the think tank committee for a constructive tomorrow, which believe it or not. They're always named something like that. Yeah. They received, believe it or not, $500,000 in funding from ExxonMobil.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Great. This is always the case for climate change deniers. You can always trace their funding back to oil companies or Coke related foundations, which is also the case for committee for a constructive tomorrow. They received a bunch of money from the donor's fund and the Charles Coke foundation. I think that's a big reason why if I was elected supreme leader for six years and then assassinated or subjected myself to, uh, execution, I would really
Starting point is 01:14:08 probably just execute all of the ExxonMobil people. Like I would just start from like the Coke brother or, oh man, the Coke family would be gone. Like everybody who is even remotely related to the Coke family, you don't need to murder, seize all of their finances. And I would just, you don't, you don't need to murder. You don't need to seize finances. All you have to do is correct the future.
Starting point is 01:14:31 All you have to do is put in place sensible regulations, sensible oversight. The things that they, the way that they get away with all this stuff is loopholes in terms of like, I don't have to report that I'm, uh, giving hundreds of thousands of dollars through shadow and, uh, secondary foundations towards these goals that would be very easily debunked. If you just knew that I was paying for all of that, right? But the issue there is that there is that, and that's what we've been dealing with for so long is that it's really hard to write laws, but also don't
Starting point is 01:15:09 allow for those loopholes. So if you just kill everyone involved with the Koch brothers, maybe we do a good job. I think bringing back Citizens United would be, uh, or, uh, getting rid of it would be a good first stab. So we kill Neil Gorsuch. Sure. Yeah. Um, also, also Mark Moreno was one of the first people to publish about, uh,
Starting point is 01:15:28 John Kerry and the Swift boating. Of course, of course. Because he used to work for Rush Limbaugh back in those days. Great, great. They hope to sway the 2004 election. You know, he's a winner. Yeah, he's a, he's a hatchet man, uh, for, for hire. Um, it's a really boring episode and this guy named Doug Hagman, who's super
Starting point is 01:15:47 boring, hosts the fourth hour, and I was going to turn it off. And I'm glad I didn't, uh, because Doug Hagman. Yeah. He's just this. Where do these find these people filled suit? He's a boring ass, dude. He's fucking, but where do these people, uh, when Alex and Doug Hagman were having their little overlap before Doug took over the entire fourth hour, Alex,
Starting point is 01:16:07 Jones slipped up. He was talking about Maria Brahmovich and how much he does and doesn't believe in pizza gate, uh, and accidentally said that he's having a debate. Like they, they think this woman will conquer America. They think this high priestess of, of, of admitted Alistair Crowley magic will crush us, my friend. Yeah. And, and thanks, Alex.
Starting point is 01:16:33 You know what? She's got the, uh, I guess a better way to state that. Would be, she's got the elixir that will empower the people behind the, behind the veils, of course, the power brokers to, uh, provide them with the necessary spiritual and I use that near quotes, uh, uh, stuff to, uh, to, to take them to new heights. And, and of course the adrenaline in the blood, there you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Um, that, uh, you busted, you busted. You are so busted, Alex. You fucking literally believe it. Yep. What a idiot. And Doug Hagman is like, yep, yeah, he is on the same fucking page every time, every time they, that's amazing. It's so, it's so incredible to me that every time they bring up those, what
Starting point is 01:17:20 you would expect is a metaphor. The elixir that's going to take us to the next level, then they wind up making it clear that they believe there is an elixir. It's literal. It's a literal elixir. Yeah. And it's something that's very clear. Like we've gone over this in exhaustive detail.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Like even a million times, even going into trip reports that people have done from taking Adrenaline Chrome and, uh, how, uh, it's a very bad high, not a bad high, but just a weak high and no one would really, no one would seek after it, right? Overdosing on adrenaline isn't really a fun buzz. Um, even, even if their worldview was like this adren, that we got to scare children to put adrenaline to their blood that we can then drink. Um, even if that was true, the end result of it is the elites, like a bad buzz.
Starting point is 01:18:14 That's worse than just weed. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, it's less than weed. So go fuck yourself. Alex, you so what we're saying is if we get an extra hundred dollars in donation by the end of April, we will do an episode where we're high on Adrenaline Chrome and we're high. We can order it.
Starting point is 01:18:34 What? Yeah. There are sites you can order it from. That can't be. It's pretty easy to synthesize. You don't even need kids to do it. Okay. You don't need blood to do it.
Starting point is 01:18:43 And we've been over this too. The amount that you could get out of, uh, like all of the blood of a child, maximum, uh, adrenaline production would be not enough to even mildly get you high. That's crazy. It's insane. But you can get like, uh, the ex, because the chemical can be synthesized well without human bodies. You can get higher doses of it.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And that's what a lot of these trip reports are. Let's just do an episode on LSD. I'll do it. Um, so you're going to need LSD for this next clip. Nice. So, um, now we're moving on to the 30th, which is Friday. If you're nasty. Um, I hate you.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Suck it. Suck it. Jordan. Yeah. This is a Mike down clip. Here we go. Cause this one is, uh, on France, say it is tray fucked up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:36 This is very fucked up. Great French. And I'm not here judging people who've had abortions. That's how they get you in the trap is, you know, you've had abortions. You've been involved in abortions. I have the media then goes, Jones is a hypocrite. He admits he's been involved in abortions and he's against them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:52 It's called the space time continuum. What? It's called when I was a teenager, I did bad things and I pledged to never do it again and I haven't. I got four children and I think my lucky stars every time they're healthy and they're born and then I just, I have nightmares about it. I, I, I have serious guilt. Anytime I think about the globalist killing me or something bad happening.
Starting point is 01:20:14 I just think about the children and I have no fear. Just zero. When I think about what I've done, I mean, if someday I've been some globalist prison and they're torturing me, I deserve it because of what I did to my children. I'm a murder. I've paid money. I've, I've killed 10 of my children that I know of murdered them.
Starting point is 01:20:45 The difference is I'm sorry and I know I'm wrong and I repent. And I was young and stupid and I believe the propaganda and most of the girls wanted to have their abortions, but a couple of them didn't. And I think about those magic children I'd had today, but you know what? I wouldn't have the children I had today if I hadn't had children back then. It's all part of life. So I don't judge you. God judges you.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Holy shit. Holy shit. What the fuck was that? Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:22 He's paid for 10 abortions. At least. At least that he knows about. So I did some research into this. Just fucking pull out, man. Well, the rhythm method is not, that's not reliable. Look, who doesn't love unprotected sex, but fucking pull out. It's 96% effective.
Starting point is 01:21:44 What you're doing is hitting on, I think, what is one of the more important points and that is that like people make mistakes and things happen. Yeah, but not 10 mistakes. That's a behavior. That's a bad deal. That's not, that's a pattern of behavior. I have known a couple of people who have been open. You know, I probably know a ton of people who've had abortions that haven't talked about it.
Starting point is 01:22:12 But I know a couple of people who have and have spoken about it. And generally it's a wake up call. It's generally like, oh shit, OK. Yeah, change the way I'm behaving. Absolutely. The idea that he had 10 abortions. That's crazy. So I did some research into this.
Starting point is 01:22:28 This is an insane person. In 2014, there were 650,000 or so right around there reported abortions in the United States. Yeah, there were about 151 million male citizens in the United States, assuming that all of those people just spread the abortions out evenly. You have a point four percent chance of being a male who's involved in an abortion in any given year.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Alex Jones was that 10 times, which is crazy. Like it's like none of this is just none of this is to judge and that he knows about. Well, none of this is a lot. But none of this is to judge and none of this is to say that it's wrong or it's bad to terminate a pregnancy, if that's the decision you have. But that's a huge. That's a high number. That's a fucking huge number.
Starting point is 01:23:23 That's an almost intentional number. Now, the other problem that I think is even more important is when he says that some of them didn't want it. That's not great. That's severely fucked up. That's not great. Because that's Alex Jones pressuring people into getting abortions. That's. Wow.
Starting point is 01:23:43 And him pretending like he's just this guy who didn't know any better. He was a sucker to the propaganda of abortions. It seems like he does know it. He has to know better if he was reading adult text books and super mature, reading 10,000 books about World War Two when he was 10. The idea that like, oh, I was such a naive person who didn't know any better when I got 10 women pregnant when I was. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I don't even know how to deal with that. Like I don't like in ideological terms. It's a mess. I'm 100 percent fine with that. Right. Totally. Like I support it completely at the same time. I think what that says is Alex Jones was almost intentionally trying to do that. No, like that's it's hard for me to reconcile because I would argue. I would argue intention might be you might want to take that away. I don't know if I can.
Starting point is 01:24:44 I would say compulsive. I would say that the more likely explanation is that he was engaging in a compulsive behavior that he really enjoyed. Yeah, he was able to get away with. Yeah. In as much as sometimes they wanted to get abortions. And the other times you could pressure him into it. And you just avoiding consequences.
Starting point is 01:25:05 I hate so fucked up. That's so fucked up because also the idea that like I learned my lesson and I repented and I'm so sorry. After 10 times. Yeah, that's nuts. Why didn't you learn it the first time? Yeah. Why the scientific method says that after three, you now have a pattern of behavior. Well, sometimes the first time isn't as real.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Maybe I would give him a saying. I give him till a third until you're like, I really got to change. Three is a pattern of behavior. I don't. It's amazing. I don't know how to reconcile. Like I I couldn't be more pro-choice. And at the same time, I think everybody who's pro-choice is not up for 10 different women having forcing to have abortions.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Well, I don't know. I think I don't know what to say about. I think what it comes down to is generally when you're pro-choice, one of the most important elements of it is the women's health. The choice. The choice part. Yeah, exactly. Instead of the force port part. What we're seeing here is Alex having 10 abortions,
Starting point is 01:26:13 which probably was 10 different women. And that's more him being. At least like nine. Him being wildly irresponsible. And I'm not judging him for that either. He was young and stupid and what have you. But I don't know. I think I am.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I think I am going to judge him for that. I'm going to judge him for the parts of it where he's like some of them didn't want to have it. That's pretty fucked up. And then I'm going to also judge him for like legitimately when we when we hear him talk about like pro-choice people being satanic and wanting to kill their babies. All it is is that clip that you just heard being projected on them.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Yeah. He's guilty about his past behavior. And he wanted to I don't know. And he's just I don't know how to deal with. I don't know how to deal with 10 abortions. I don't think I don't. I don't think I've ever wild. I don't think I've ever heard of anybody involved in 10.
Starting point is 01:27:09 I imagine 10 is a lot. It's a lot. That's so many. It's a lot. That's so many. Statistically. That's an insane amount. It's an insane amount.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Not saying you shouldn't have it. Not judging you to do. But it's a lot. I know. I don't know. I don't know how to reconcile. Like, man, that is a fucking conundrum. Well, let's cleanse our palate by checking out this next clip
Starting point is 01:27:32 where Alex Jones gives his thoughts on Depeche Mode. OK. All right. That I'm interested in. John Revolator putting in an elevator, sending him up to the highest floor. Alex Jones and the GCN radio network. John Revolator putting in an elevator,
Starting point is 01:27:55 taking him up to the highest side. Taking him up to the top where the mountains stop. Let him sense the good eyes. John Revolator putting in an elevator, incredible band. Love them. St. McConsert three times. A horribly politically dumb.
Starting point is 01:28:14 I was going to say, he absolutely cannot possibly like their most recent album. Because that was very anti-Alex Jones' bullshit. Well, he screams about how like some of the later verses in this song that he's playing, he chose to play on his own program. Right. It's a great song, though.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Involved Christianity taking cues from Islam. And he screams about how like, hey, it was 600 years later. Not recognizing that Paul, when he wrote all his letters and stuff, lived in the five to 600. Don't worry about it. Which is pretty contemporary with the beginnings of Islam. Hey, don't think about the timelines. Which, and Paul created the modern church.
Starting point is 01:28:57 But be that as it may, that debate of like the genesis of various religions is very important. Very organized religion is bullshit. The song is a banger, though. Anyway. It's a banger. In the next. The mesh mode is great.
Starting point is 01:29:09 So now we get to Alex having a guest. OK. It's a new guest by the name of Katie Hopkins. Do you know Katie Hopkins? I have heard that name before. She's from England. She's a former reality star from the UK. That is why I know that name.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Now I immediately regret knowing that name. She's most notable for being a brutal Islamophobe. Great. After a terrorist attack, she got on Twitter and called for a quote, final solution. That's not great. After the Manchester bombings in 2017. Great.
Starting point is 01:29:41 She's promoted hoax narratives about the Muslim no-go zones. She refers constantly to Muslims and immigrants as cockroaches and rats. I don't like this. She wrote an anti-immigration column in The Sun that was titled Rescue Boats. I'd use gunships to stop migrants. In June 2017, she appeared on Fox and Friends
Starting point is 01:30:02 and advocated for internment camps being set up for suspected Islamic terrorists. At a UKIP conference, the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, people who were into Brexit, Hopkins suggested that it would be OK if the House of Lords was, quote, sealed up and gassed. The people who always criticized their enemies, like whenever Alex Jones says David Hogg is clicking
Starting point is 01:30:34 his heels together and doing the Nazi salute. God damn it, if they don't love Nazi tactics, they're huge fans of genocide. They just don't like the uniform, I guess. Like, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with these people. Do they not ever hear themselves talk? Probably not.
Starting point is 01:30:54 It's insane to me. They got to keep moving. You keep distracting. Then you get back to, again, you get back to the Israeli government and the way that they're treating as like, look, genocide is fine if it's not happening to us. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Duh. So Katie Hopkins has advocated for a final solution about Islamic terrorism. Great. And I keep that in mind as Alex says this. I guess Katie Hopkins is back on Twitter now. I just always read about her band here, band there. Now they say, look what this woman said, get her off.
Starting point is 01:31:28 And then I go here, which she said, it makes total sense. Because the left is going into total censorship mode. All right. So you agree with all that stuff. Congratulations. Here's the next clip where Katie Hopkins talks about conservative media. Oh, I don't like this.
Starting point is 01:31:45 If you watch Tucker Carlson or watch you or anybody that's on Fox, it all makes perfect sense. Why? And then that's why people are watching. I think Tucker is this kind of ray of light. He's kind of my hope in that all of the media landscape that we have. Tucker is my kind of inspiration for the sort of show
Starting point is 01:32:02 that we know Americans want. And the British people would love a show like Tucker. White. White. White. So now earlier. White. On March 28, Alex, out of nowhere,
Starting point is 01:32:15 turned the conversation sexy with someone who called into the show. Oh, no. Now see where this goes with Katie Hopkins, who he clearly is into. He's got a boner. Conservative women aren't voting conservative because their husbands told them to.
Starting point is 01:32:32 They're doing it because they like guns and property and their executives and they own things and they're in charge. They're the powerful women. The leftist women are a bunch of chicken-neck idiots in my experience, just like the men. Katie, I'm sorry, but it's true. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Conservative women are awesome. I want women to be powerful and in charge. That's sexy. Do you like that? How is that? Go ahead. And then immediately started screaming that like, I find. I want to hear what you have to say,
Starting point is 01:32:58 but first I want to tell you exactly why I enjoy what you have to say, which has nothing to do with the content of what you're saying. Also, because you agreeing with me turns me on. Exactly. And now we get to this next clip, which is fucking a disaster. And they want you dead because you're powerful, you're vibrant, and I'm married.
Starting point is 01:33:17 I got to say, this is pretty, you are pretty sexy. I mean, I like women like, I don't know how to describe it, who are like, like the feminists want to be tough, but they don't get like the women I group around or my grandmas or anybody, you know, like kind of stomping around in charge, but not in charge, they wanted to be in charge. They were in charge because they were alive
Starting point is 01:33:34 and they were awesome. Yeah. Well, if you think I'm sexy, I will say, I think you need your eyes tested, but I do think strong women are really fun to be around. And the reason my government is sponsoring a play. Well, that's what I'm saying. Look, I don't think you look bad.
Starting point is 01:33:46 My point is it's attitudes. What matters is you have a light in your eye. There's so many layers to that. There's so many layers to that. The first is that, like, first of all, fuck Katie Hopkins. Her opinions are terrible, but she is appearing on this show. Once again, a majority of white women voted for Trump. In case you were wondering, it's whiteness.
Starting point is 01:34:08 But she's from Britain. She is appearing on this show. She voted for Brexit. She voted for Nigel Farage. It's the same fucking shit. UKIP actually is even like, we're not, we are not. Yeah. She's not a part of us.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah. But she does still speak at their events. It's weird. Who would have guessed? But be that as it may, she is a person. And she's appearing on this show in a professional capacity. Now, I disagree with literally everything she's saying, but she's not there for Alex Jones to be like, fuck,
Starting point is 01:34:42 it turns me on. I'm married, but you're sexy. I don't know. I kind of disagree with you. No, because do you see how we responded to it? I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. She responds.
Starting point is 01:34:52 She supports an ideology that makes that a completely fine thing to do. Fuck you. I don't give a shit. Strongly disagree with you. Like at a certain point, at a certain point, if you're supporting an ideology that is entirely built upon your subjugation, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Nope. I don't give a shit. Strongly disagree with you. I don't give a shit. Strongly disagree with you. What are you saying? Like at what point do you become complicit? And in fact, what?
Starting point is 01:35:22 The cause of your own subjugation as an object? I adhere to principles. I try to, at least. Yes. I fail at times. But I adhere to principles, or at least believe principles, that are universal. And they are just, this must be true.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Otherwise, I don't know. All right. And one of them is that kind of behavior towards someone is inappropriate. I don't care. I don't care what she advocates for. That does not mean that she deserves to be treated that way. OK.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I respect that concept. I don't. I understand where you're coming from as well, that she is propping up the system that allows men to, out of nowhere, in a professional capacity, or a professional interview, just be like, I'm going to give you a sexual compliment out of nowhere. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:36:15 But at the same time, that doesn't matter to me. It matters to me that that is an inappropriate way for a man to behave towards a woman. And you can tell from listening to that clip that what she tried to do is deflect into a self-deprecating comment, where she says, if you think I'm sexy, you need to check your eyes. And Alex immediately responds to that
Starting point is 01:36:35 by interrupting her and saying, I don't think you look bad, or whatever. She's trying to deal with the thing that clearly is inappropriate, because she wouldn't have said, if you think I'm sexy, you need to check your eyes. If she didn't kind of think, this isn't what I'm here for. This isn't what the conversation is about. She tried to deflect it with a powerful position, which
Starting point is 01:36:56 is that self-deprecating, humorous position. And it didn't work. She does not deserve to be subjected to that. Just because her positions are horrible, I do not believe. Here is my, OK. I agree with what you are saying in a vacuum. And in a world that we don't fucking live in, I agree with you entirely.
Starting point is 01:37:26 At the same time. That's where my principles live. At the same time, fuck her. She is, I don't know. I don't know. Dan, I genuinely don't know. Because I am entirely on your side. And at the same time, I think she fucking does deserve it.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Well, let's go back to it. I think that is something that she is actively courted and it actively accepts and actively says is the right way for things to be. She doesn't. So if she's going to pretend that this is something that she is not an active participant in, it bothers me. She clearly doesn't accept it on some level,
Starting point is 01:38:04 because otherwise. Yeah, well, then fucking don't do the shit you're doing. I mean, but at the same time, I get that the problem I have with that is that it reminds me of that argument of, well, don't dress the way you're dressing. Well, that's what you sound like to some extent. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:38:23 That's what I'm saying. It concerns me that it seems like a similar argument. It's the same thing. But at the same time, it's not a don't dress the way you're dressing. It's a don't say that rapists should be allowed to rape. Right. As though that's an entirely OK thing to do.
Starting point is 01:38:41 It's the same thing that befell the alt-right community when Lauren Southern came out and said that she didn't want to have kids. Yeah. And everyone got on her and everyone started being like, what the fuck? Everyone turned on her. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:54 This idea that you are white. You should breed. Yeah. That sort of thing. Yeah. And I don't believe that just based on Lauren Southern's other awful positions, she deserves to be treated like that by the terrible community
Starting point is 01:39:10 that she's courted. I know. And I agree with you. I don't believe that Katie Hopkins, who I hate for her positions, deserves to be treated like that by a guy who invited her on the show to talk about admittedly white genocide. I know. Which sucks.
Starting point is 01:39:27 But I can't. I cannot agree with you more. Like, I genuinely agree with you. What? I really do. What this comes down to, I think, is I think you and I are on the same page on a lot of stuff. But I don't know if we're 100% on the same page
Starting point is 01:39:46 in terms of my philosophy about this world. And that is that I lost my train of thought. I know. I mean, that's the issue that I am coming up against here. I 100% agree with you. Oh, no, no, no. As a woman, as a human being, as a human being, no one deserves that. I found the train of thought.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And if you are, and I agree with you, I don't think she does deserve that. At the same time, if you are saying this is the world that should be, the one where I am treated like this, my sympathy for you, my empathy for you disappears. Well, her behavior underlies that that's not what she believes. Yeah, well, then don't fucking make it a reality. Well, she's not. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:37 I don't know. Dan, I don't fucking know. Here's what I was trying to get to a second ago when I lost my train of thought. I believe, and I don't think we've ever really had a full conversation about this, but I believe that in order to counter this propaganda stuff and this entire world, sometimes what's required of you is doing the thing that feels unnatural. You know, like it's very natural to go back to our last episode, yell at Rex. Right.
Starting point is 01:41:03 Because he's saying stupid shit. Of course. And it feels unnatural to give a pass to it because you understand the context of it that he is a victim and he is being exploited by Alex to push these narratives. Respect. In the same way on a different scale, and certainly it's not a one-to-one comparison, it feels very natural to say, fuck you, you brought this on yourself. Of course, you behave this way.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Alex is going to sexually harass you in an interview or turn a sexual compliment out of nowhere. Whether you want to call that harassment or not is your business. That's not for me to decide. It feels natural to dismiss that and to say like, ah, fuck it, who cares? But I don't think that's right. I think that the unnatural thing is looking at it just as it is and realizing that she did not ask for that.
Starting point is 01:41:52 She's there in a professional capacity. And imagine a world where she's on a different news show and out of nowhere, the guy is like, that's fucking sexy. Or imagine Alex saying that to Gerald Salenti or something like that. Like imagine that and you start to get a picture of like, this is inappropriate behavior, whether or not the person is a vile monster. It's not, that part isn't important. It feels like you should say, fuck you to all these people.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Right. Now, let me kind of like, the more I think about it, here's the reality. I 100% agree with you. She absolutely does not deserve that shit. I think my issue comes from the world that we live in now, wherein this minority of human beings is somehow the strongest overarching dominant philosophy of our time. So exactly, so here's, here's where I'm coming from. And I think this is my ultimate point.
Starting point is 01:43:00 I'm listening. How less, less what, what does anybody deserve? What is what is good? What is the correct way to be? And more, how do we stamp out this bullshit? I am coming from a place of- I think you stamp it out by resisting the easy road. I think you stamp it out-
Starting point is 01:43:26 Yeah, how did that work? How did that work for, how did that work for Hillary Clinton? You know, when they go low, we go high. She went- How did that go? But that's just a catchphrase. That's, that's, I mean, I'm not, well that I, that I respect as well. It's a bad example.
Starting point is 01:43:41 She didn't do the actual work. I entirely respect that as well. Yeah. I don't know. I, I, that's what I'm saying. It's doing the actual work. It's actually wrestling with the issues and dealing with reality on realities terms. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:55 And in reality, Katie Hopkins is a fucking monster. Yeah. But she's a human and she doesn't deserve to appear or, or anything that she's done in the past or any positions that she has. Yes. When she married, her coming on Alex Jones' show to talk about how bad Islam is, which she shouldn't be doing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:16 And then we treated like a sexual object for Alex to flirt with. Yes. That is, that is more my point and it's fucking, it's fucking tough because I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to put anyone on blast because everyone has their, their positions and I respect all of them. Yes. But in the, in the Facebook group, go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. We had some conversations, particularly about Rex.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah. And there were people who were on the side of fuck this kid and stuff like that. And, and, and I, I understand where that voice comes from. And in the same way you saying, yeah, she, she brought this on herself. The, I'm not, I'm not, I don't want to put words in your mouth. That's where I am trying to avoid that. I'm not trying to say that she brought it on herself. If you entails this behavior, yes.
Starting point is 01:45:07 That's what you're saying. Yes. And that may be the case, but if I believe, if she had this worldview that was beckoning this sort of behavior on her response would be different than a self deprecating deflection that she clearly did. Exactly. It was clearly trying to get back on track, which is what she wanted to talk about is how there is a play that's being put up called the assassination of Katie Hopkins.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Right. And Alex has to interrupt her in order to compliment her again. Yes. I think that her worldview, while abhorrent and stupid, it doesn't, it does not imply that she should or is cool with that sort of behavior. Because I'm sure I, I don't think you could ever talk to her and have her say this, but I imagine in like, I just, now I'm fantasy booking this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:05 I hear this in your brain. I imagine afterwards you talk to her friends and you're like, it was fucking weird. Alex told me I was sexy. It's fucking weird. Okay. And then you put that. Then here's what I'm, okay. Let me try and get it to it this way.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I think that my position on this is becoming, the reason that we are who we are is because empathy is paramount. Right. Empathy and understanding and the recognition that everyone is human. That is part of our belief system. It is. And I think I'm, I'm wrestling with the fact that, or not fact, I'm wrestling with the concept of maybe that's why we're losing.
Starting point is 01:46:52 We're not losing. We are losing. Well, we are. We are losing. Income inequality has ever lost as hard as we are losing right now. Knowledge fight. The losing fight. I mean that.
Starting point is 01:47:04 I think you need to adjust your definition of losing. Climate change is out of control. Income inequality has never been higher. Civil rights are being destroyed at every possible fucking opportunity. No, no, no, no. There's no possible way that we see an end to this that is just purely let's all be empathetic towards each other. The big picture is terrible, but I'm, well, that's the problem, but I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:47:34 our world, our world. The only things that we have control over are this show, our perceptions, our principles, those sorts of things. Right. And I think that no matter what happens in the bigger world, you have an opportunity to speak out against it or accept it. Those are the two ways you can live, and it's your decision whether you want to engage in either of those.
Starting point is 01:48:00 It's not a moral decision or anything like that. Sometimes it is when it's slavery or something like that. But be that as it may, but bring that up. But the reality of the world is not our choosing. We are mere actors on the stage as it were. We don't get to choose the play we exist in. And we have to just figure out how to get through it. You and I, there is not much we can do other than express our opinions and try and put
Starting point is 01:48:33 out the best we can do in this context. We can vote, we can go protest also, we can encourage people to get active and all that. We can do all those things. But beyond that, it is not our fault, it is not our listener's fault. It's not even our non-listeners fault that the world as it is exists as it is. But it does, and we have to exist within it. And I would argue that just because all of the big picture stuff is real bad, just because doesn't necessarily mean that we're losing or that everything is terrible, but doesn't
Starting point is 01:49:20 mean we're losing. You only really lose when you give up your principles. You only really lose when you are not fighting for what that which you believe is right. Because all of this stuff could get turned back. All of it could be fixed. It would be a fight and it will take a while. But all of this stuff that is really terrible is not undoable. It will just take rationality, calmer heads and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:49:49 And a beating down of all right voices and Nazis to put them back into the corner of the internet where they belong. But then the question becomes, and this is something that was wrestled with during the civil rights movement intensely, is the effectiveness of total pacifism versus violent action. I mean, at a certain point you have to ask yourself, slavery wasn't ended by pacifism. Slavery wasn't ended by protests. Slavery wasn't ended by all of those things. Slavery was ended by a fucking war.
Starting point is 01:50:33 And Martin Luther King wouldn't have existed without Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael. Exactly. He wouldn't have survived as long as he did. And he wouldn't have been killed if it wasn't for the complete psychopathy of the people that we're fighting against. And spoiler alert, we are none of those parties. That's a very good point as well. This is not related to this conversation at all.
Starting point is 01:51:00 And I agree with you. I have to give up that idea that I... In the bigger world, there are the forces that are fighting and clashing. And some of them are pacifist and philosophical. Let's just use a maybe imperfect example. But you have David Hogg in the March for Our Life people. And then you also have Antifa, who will go around, which again is not an organized group as much as it is.
Starting point is 01:51:29 A bunch of people who realize that fascism ain't great. Right, so you have that sort of continuum that exists. And so like, I don't know. I don't know how it's going to play out. I don't know anything. But the only reason this conversation has gone on this long is I'm going out of my way to defend someone I hate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:52 And I think you're a better person for it. Thank you. And I mean... Now let's undo all of that goodwill with this next clip. Let me close real quick. I agree with you. Thanks. That's the end of that set.
Starting point is 01:52:07 Let me steal a cigarette. I have another pack, but it's in my pocket. This was an aggressive conversation, and I think you are right. Yeah, we just fucked. Now we need a cigarette. Yeah, exactly. And now let's, as we smoke the cigarette, enjoy this clip that will undo all goodwill towards Katie Hopkins.
Starting point is 01:52:27 At one point, Alex Jones, I guess he needs to take a call or something. He just lets her host an entire segment. Great. And here's what the kind of shit she's pushing. You know, I've often said the white farmer in South Africa is up there with the white rhino. You know, they both faced extinction. The white rhino, we just lost the last one. And the only difference is that because it's a white farmer, the world doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:52:51 We've been over this a hundred goddamn times. The white farmer murder narrative is very clearly about something else entirely. 01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:04,920 Because if you look at murder rates, especially even in just South Africa, what you find is young black men being murdered way more. Always. And no one gives a shit about that. Always.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Anyway. Who's kidnapped? Who's disappeared more? Young black women or young white women? Who winds up on TV? White. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:23 So after this, she disappears. And Alex Jones gets back to that aggro shit he was doing on the other show. This is gross. American leftist. You name it. All the world went to Russia to be part of the special units where they could just rape and murder Christians. I mean, you know, that's what the left wants to do here.
Starting point is 01:53:42 And that's what they do. They always do it. They just want to get your wife and children in a room and rape them and blow their heads off. I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do. Yeah. So the leftists did. No response.
Starting point is 01:53:54 No response other than fuck off. That's bullshit. Go fuck yourself. I know at a certain point we're going to end up with like so many clips like that that is like noted. Yeah. Fuck you. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:05 You're wrong and you're lying and you're lying. So at the end of the third. And I don't give a shit. Fuck you. At the end of the 30th, the March 30th episode, Alex Jones is real, real Soros heavy. He's really into talking about Soros. And he does a bunch of shit about how like he helped the Nazis all this.
Starting point is 01:54:25 It's in his memoirs. Absolutely. I started reading his memoirs and Alex is misrepresenting a whole bunch of shit from that just because I was like, oh, I didn't know about his memoirs. Just I'd read him might as well. Turns out it just reinforces the position that he had nothing to do even with his godparents itemization of the things that were taken away from Jews and Nazi Germany. Of course.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Turns out most of the time he was playing in a field. Anyway, this next clip, Alex, this is really funny to me. He is insisting that Soros keeps trying to reach out to him. And this is the, this is almost the equivalent of Alex being like the TV is talking to me. Kind of. Okay. It's nuts. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:11 In a bunch of the lawsuits they filed, they'll always have a quote about Ann Jones claims George Soros was a Nazi collaborator. They just put the lawsuits Georgetown and two others as a message. Hey, George, I know. I know you're coming after me because I keep saying you're a Nazi collaborator. These guys don't get it. See, if the Nazis told me go round up your fellow Jews, we're going to kill you.
Starting point is 01:55:38 I'd kill them. No, you won't. That's why the Nazis don't run Texas, boy. Just don't go over like you. I've had high level Hollywood folks years ago go, we really want to put your movie in theaters. No, you can make like $5 million out of chance. You know, George Soros had to do what he did. He's really not a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:56:00 And, and, and, you know, I talked to somebody close to him and would you ever want to talk to George Soros? Sure. He seems like an interesting guy. And I'm sitting there. And I go, is that an offer? No. And they're like, do you want to be? No.
Starting point is 01:56:19 And then I had another TV movie star on one time. Charlie Sheen. And he just brought that up during a break. He said, you know what? You know, Soros is just, I know his sons are not that bad. You know, you ought to stop calling the Nazi collaborator. You know, he did what he had to do. Tori Speller.
Starting point is 01:56:39 So, I mean, I get it. Soros has reached out. Well, but, you know, hey, here's this option, Alex. Or there's this option. Hey, Soros, fill your hand, buddy. Fill your hands. Fill it, fill it, fill it. Fill your hand.com.
Starting point is 01:56:54 I will never sell the truth out. Got it? Ever. And they won't buy fill your hand.com. They still haven't figured out that I haven't gotten the message. I got the message. It's refused. Return to Cinder.
Starting point is 01:57:10 No such number. I'm not ever selling anybody out. And it's not because I'm a hero. No, it's not. It's because I know God's real. Or because you're a coward. And you sell people out all the goddamn time. All the time.
Starting point is 01:57:26 All the time. Your career is all selling out. Brutal. In this next clip, Alex is, he's operating under that like, that dumb assumption that he has that like, whenever there is a mass shooting that people are talking about.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Right. All crisis actors. All gun owners are blamed. Crisis actors. Which is a dumb, dumb thing that he believes. Every time. It's like, oh, why do you blame us? Gun owners?
Starting point is 01:57:56 We don't really blame you. Furthermore, once again, the majority of guns is owned by 1%. Yeah, it's a very small. It is the tiniest amount of people who we are blaming. Gun owners, generally speaking, are fine. That's the reality of it. I hate guns more than anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:18 As has been proven by all of the things that I've said. Yeah. But most gun owners are totally fine. Yeah. Anyway, this next clip, Alex is projecting a lot of guilt onto himself. And then he spins it into one of the stupidest ideas he's ever had. All right. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:58:37 So David Hogg is the cause celeb that we must fire Lord Ingram. We must give up the First Amendment. We must give up the Second Amendment. We must Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in. Or you are a child killer. Turn in your guns, killers. Turn in your guns. It's time to repeal the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Turn in your gun. Child killer. Turn in your gun. Boy, that's not authoritarian. That's not outrageous. That shouldn't make you mad. People looking at you and telling you because you have a right. It's your fault.
Starting point is 01:59:09 Yes. You didn't know that when somebody stabs somebody with a knife, every knife owner is to blame. You didn't know when somebody poisoned someone with antifreeze. If you had antifreeze in your car, you're a murderer. You didn't know that if a jihadi runs over somebody with a truck, and it happens to be a Ford or Chevy? You got a Ford or Chevy?
Starting point is 01:59:31 How dare American Ford and Chevy owners? I'm going to do a man on street. 30,000 people die a year. Parking lots. And I'm going to approach people like CNN bullies people, and I'm going to say, sir, ma'am, what in the hell are you doing? You are driving a Mercedes car.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Did you know a Mercedes truck was used just last year in Berlin to run over a bunch of people? And again, months before that at a Christmas event, what are you doing driving this killing machine? And they'll be like, well, I didn't associate it with that. I didn't do that with the truck. Does it matter? You have this deadly assault vehicle
Starting point is 02:00:09 that killed hundreds of people in Nice. That find out the model of the truck in Nice. Hundreds. Maybe some U.S. obsidian. And I'm going to go around and I'm going to get in people's faces. I'm going to say, what in the world are you doing driving a brand vehicle that was associated with running over 270-something people and killing over 180?
Starting point is 02:00:29 So real quick, in Nice, 434 people were injured. So it's actually way more than you said. And 87 people died, including the driver of the car. So it's way lower than what he was saying. He has no grasp on actually the real world of what he's talking about. That's still... It's a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:48 No, don't get me wrong. I'm not minimizing it. I'm just saying he doesn't know what he's talking about. Right. But further, I would posit that if there was going to be like this field piece and let's say... Like let's make it like sort of an analog of the gun control argument that's going on. Let's imagine that there's a car that's specifically designed only for killing people.
Starting point is 02:01:11 Right? Let's say... Right. Like the DeLorean. Or the Pinto. Or a monster truck. Right. And Alex was going out and being like,
Starting point is 02:01:19 hey, should the destroyer 5,000 be allowed on roads? And people were like, no, and it's not. You know, like the version of... Like this logic is so fucking stupid because on one level, everyone who drives a car is licensed. And if they're not, they are committing a crime that they can get in trouble for. Right. Which is kind of part of what people would like to see for guns.
Starting point is 02:01:45 And secondarily, the restrictions that people want to see on guns are things that are like, oh, this gun has no legitimate real purpose outside of killing people. And if there was a car that was like that, you even humorously brought up the Pinto. Yeah. They got rid of that. Yeah. So... Got rid of it real quick.
Starting point is 02:02:05 So that logic doesn't even track. Oh, and even then, the companies themselves tried to suppress the information that it was designed in such a way as that people would die immediately. Because all business does that. Yeah. So anyway, Alex is just like, that's... No, that's nonsense. But that's a hilarious idea.
Starting point is 02:02:24 It's a, it's a, it's one of those... I can't wait for that. I can't wait for that field piece though. It's one of those arguments that makes sense if you never think, if you never think critically about it. Totally. In the same way that earlier we were talking about the, or maybe it was on the last episode, where we were talking about the study that's like 18% of millennials go to church,
Starting point is 02:02:44 41% of generations Z go to church. Makes perfect sense if you never think about it critically for a moment. If you don't ask any questions about like, why is that the case? Oh, it's pretty obvious why that's the case. Right. And the same thing is true of this. Like just, just go to the second step and you realize like this logic does not work. Like if, if, if, yes, if the conversation that people were having, which I understand why
Starting point is 02:03:11 they might have it, but I don't think it's what's going on. The idea that like people should not be allowed to have guns period, if that was the conversation that was going on, I'd be much more sympathetic to Alex's view in the, in the sense of like, I get it in terms of gun ownership for like a rifle that you want to hunt with or a handgun that you deal with responsibly and have locked up in a case and what have you. Like those sorts of things, if people were saying no one can own any of these, I'd get it.
Starting point is 02:03:43 I'd kill, I'd kind of still be on the side of shouldn't have them, but I would be sympathetic and much more like engaged with the argument. But because the argument is about semi automatic weapons, that it is about assault rifles. It is about modifications that can be made with very simple adjustments you can do on your own to guns and things like that, or little modifications you can buy at stores. Because that's what people are talking about. I am, I'm less sympathetic to his logic.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Well, and I, and I, I have called, I have called for complete disarmament period. But if, if we classified, if we class at good point, all right, all right, dad. No, that would work perfectly in a utopian world. I would love that. I'm saying, I'm saying more like, okay, if guns were only recreational. Yeah. If guns were, if guns were for hunting, if guns were only recreation, like when we talked about, like you could go to this place and shoot and they have their guns
Starting point is 02:04:47 and you get to have your equipment there or some sort of like a wildlife refuge that has animals for hunting. Yeah. And the like, like controlled fishing or bowling where there's balls there for you to use. Exactly. You know, yeah, yeah. I'm totally fine with that granted. Even that analogy doesn't quite work.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Cause a lot of people have their own ball, but, but yeah, but you, you can't murder people with a ball, you know, like that. Yeah, you could. Okay. That's a good point. It'd be harder. But if you get murdered with a bowling ball, you're a little bit at fault as well. Or you're living in a cartoon.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Someone has dropped it from the sixth floor. Yeah. Yeah. You weren't correctly Mr. Magooing it through all of this, uh, this madness. So anyway, all this is to say that, that I love that Alex is like, I have got an idea. I am going to put, make this video and it's going to dispel all of this shit. And like, yeah, you have like four or five different logical problems with what you're, what you're trying to espouse.
Starting point is 02:05:46 But like, we've gotten to the end of this. You just explained conservatism. You have four or five different logical problems with which you spouse. So, so we've gotten to the end of this. We have one more clip. Okay. And, uh, this is from. So I assume podcast is going to last another 45 minutes.
Starting point is 02:06:01 Give or take. And we're going to discuss whether or not reality is valid. I would like to talk about the Gambino family. I want to talk about, I want to talk about Skull Dugger. All right. I want to talk about Carlton Fisk. Other rappers. All right.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Here we go. Other no limit rappers that I remember from. I want to talk about the 504 boys. I want to talk about TRU. Let's bring in nails. Why not? Let's just throw it all in there. I want to talk about the hot boys.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Okay. Let's bring in cash money. I want to talk about Chopper city in the ghetto. One of the best albums by a BG had the song bling bling on it that everyone seemed to love back in 1997. Your taste for hip hop really stuck in a specific type. These aren't my tastes. It's just things I know from that time.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Listen, I subscribed to the holy triumvirate of Dirty South, especially Louisiana and Memphis style hip hop stuff that was really famous back when I was 12 and disappeared for almost immediately. For no reason. No one can think of any reason. Cash money survived. Yes, he did. And no limit survived on very bad legs. See 45 more minutes of this.
Starting point is 02:07:22 But it's the two of them in hypnotized minds. Yes. Included like three, six mafia, little white, those assholes. Right. Project Pat. Those guys, that was like, that's what I came up on. Like there was a lot of, I did like other stuff like a tribe called quest and brand newbie. And I liked a lot of other stuff too.
Starting point is 02:07:43 But the stuff. So query and movement, of course. Sure. Yeah. Who doesn't love that? There was a lot of, like I got deep into no limit and cash money and hypnotized minds. All right. And I will not apologize for it.
Starting point is 02:07:54 Nobody's asking you to apologize for it. It sounded like you were trying to. I wasn't trying to. You always take such a defensive stance whenever you say that you love this music. If like any response to you being like, no limit was the best. I didn't say that. Oh, you kind of, you kind of making that feel. If you want to take my Mr. Servant CD, you will cry it from my cold dead hands.
Starting point is 02:08:18 All right. All right. Anyway, back on track. Alex is like on the 30th here. We heard him. Yes. The only podcast that will get you a sober and serious gun control debate directly to is no limit as good as Dan thinks it is.
Starting point is 02:08:36 See, even that, I've got to push back on. I see. See, this is what I'm saying. You're misrepresenting my feelings on it. I don't think it's good. I don't think it's good. I just listened to it when I was 12. I just know it.
Starting point is 02:08:53 I don't like it. Although there are a few songs that are pretty good. God damn it. Yes. See, murder is talented as well. All right. Anyway, that's the, that's the Alex Jones ad pivot of hip hop for you. If see murder hadn't committed murder, he'd be, he'd be, he'd probably still be relevant.
Starting point is 02:09:10 He, he was very talented. No. He's very talented. I'm going to go with, no. If you go listen to life and death or bossa lini, some of those early albums, he's very, very talented. He has a smooth flow that also can pick up. All right.
Starting point is 02:09:26 He's also very creative. Go fuck yourself. Anyway, on the 30th of March. Fuck you. On the 30th. Yes. Alex Jones. By the way, good to be back.
Starting point is 02:09:43 Good to have you. I love you so much. I love you so much. I love you too. On the 30th. Alex started the show by talking about how many abortions he's had. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:52 For us it's twice. 02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:53,800 Talking to Luke. And it's astonishing about. And I didn't even bring this up. He immediately fakes a phone call and plays like three special reports. Like the show just is like, brr. He, I don't know, maybe it was a real phone call.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Who knows. But he gets off air and they just play a bunch of anti-abortion. His lawyer just called and said, you fucked. They play a bunch of anti-abortion, uh, special reports for like the next 20 minutes of the show. And then he has white supremacist, uh, and white nationalist Katie Hopkins on. Right. And all of this. And, uh.
Starting point is 02:10:24 Well, he shall never discuss again. No. And then, uh, towards the end of the show, he's like, I had a lot of clips I meant to get to. Of course. Of course. Of course. And. He didn't get to any of them.
Starting point is 02:10:35 None of them. None of them. And so he says this, this, like this just tickles me. I don't want to say I dropped the ball today because I got distracted by a bunch of stuff going on behind the scenes, but man, I should have got to all these clips. Yeah. That's what it was like. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:52 You kind of dropped the ball. Yeah. You pretty much dropped the ball. So Alex Jones is a big old pile of bullshit. Yep. A bunch of asshole nonsense. Anyway, uh, you can find us at knowledgefight.com. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:06 You can follow us on Twitter. It's at knowledge underscore fight. You can also find us at bossaliniwasunderrated.com. All right. All right. I'm going to buy it. Go to fillyourhand.com. You'll be right at knowledgefight as well.
Starting point is 02:11:17 That's right. You can also find us on Facebook. Yes. You can go to iTunes, leave a review, do the whole goddamn shebang. If you know any advertisers, send them our way. We will do it for less than your nearest competitor. Also, if no limit record still exists and I'm unaware of it, we're ready to do an ad. We will.
Starting point is 02:11:36 We'll do an ad. God damn if Dan won't do a lot of ads for four, five bucks. Hold your N-O-L-I-M-I-T-S-E-R-N-V. Respect the Colonel. Yep. Yep. Uh, man, you know what I loved about No Limit? The fact that they wrapped up a show really well.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Well, I'll say this before we close this out. I loved that they had a fake military hierarchy. Yes. That they all for no reason subscribe to. That was strange. Well, because the tank was their, their logo. All of a sudden everyone just decided here's my rank. Groupthink.
Starting point is 02:12:15 Like Mr. Servant always referred to himself as a colonel. Yeah. Across the board. Yeah. Always referred to him as a colonel. Cult, cult ideology often involves groupthink wherein everybody just buys into the same concept and nobody's entirely sure why other than this weird peer pressure. Dude, that's bullshit.
Starting point is 02:12:35 They weren't, they weren't culty at all. A little bit. No, they weren't because after. Everybody who's got a rank has a little bit of cult in after a couple of albums. Fucking fiend, Mr. Servant, Snoop. They all left. They all left and did albums on other record labels. Silk the shocker.
Starting point is 02:12:52 I'm not sure what he's up to these days. Really mad that you keep calling himself the shocker. It's an honorific. I respect him as a man. Really wish you didn't do that. He grew up. He also did a great song with Trina. I don't know if you remember Trina, the baddest bitch from slip and slide records.
Starting point is 02:13:07 A little bit further south. Now we're getting crazy. Now we're in the flow. Now we're getting wild. We're talking about trick daddy. Look, I'm following you very well, but this is too much. Slip and slide. Take it to the house.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Take it to the house. Take it to the house. Anyway, guys, this has been fun. Jordan, I'd like you to choose someone from our cadre of weirdos today to tell to fuck themselves. You know, you know, I know, you know, I know, you know what I'd, all right. If it's Master P, I'm going to throw this microphone at you. 02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:38,040 It's too easy.
Starting point is 02:13:38 I was going to say it. I mean, it's too easy. It's too easy. This show be over. Actually, Master P is probably a really exploitative dude. It like, if you look at his business model from like when he started, there were a bunch of really talented dudes like back in 93. So I'll tell you who should go fuck themselves.
Starting point is 02:13:55 I'm trying to rationalize that maybe Master P deserves. I realize you're trying to rationalize. I'm trying to wrap it up. There were a bunch of guys who probably deserved a lot more money than they got from the album sales. And I think Master P might have been hoarding some of that. In the same way that Slim and Baby did. Is this a mic down moment? Is that what's going on right here?
Starting point is 02:14:14 Just choose somebody. If it's Master P, I accept it. All I'm saying is that Katie Hopkins can go fuck herself. Amen. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-name caller.
Starting point is 02:14:27 I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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