Knowledge Fight - #151: April 16, 2018

Episode Date: April 17, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how it took Alex Jones approximately two days to walk back most of his "turning on Trump." More importantly the gents notice a trend of Alex looking to turn his audience into a straight-up doomsday cult.

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan Dan. How do you do Dan? Yes, sir. I Beard hair stuck in my mic. This is a disaster. Anyway, sorry go ahead You know a lot about beard hair stuck. I do you don't know much about it Not anymore not since I you smooth five o'clock shadow looking motherfucker not since I sheared it off indeed I also know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex. Hey, how's that? There we go

Guys today. We've got an interesting show for you. We're gonna be going over Monday April 16th in the life of Alex Jones But before we do that, we got to give a shout out to a couple of our new donors. Oh shit. What's going on out there, Ian? I'm a policy wonk Congratulations. I'm becoming a policy wonk I it's amazing to me that you've only won the few Oscars that you have mr. McKellen. Oh, okay I think I think we're gonna ask her. He has to have right got a feel like he has but I bet he hasn't He might not could be one of those massive lifelong snub job. Yeah. Yeah, he'll wind up getting the like What is it a career Oscar or whatever? Whatever Al Pacino got I predict a scent of a woman

I predict in the chat room that people are just like he's one seven You guys are idiots Someone who's not I know Gandalf didn't win him an Oscar certainly didn't but someone who does deserve an Oscar as our other donor There we go. They're Elizabeth. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Elizabeth If you would like to become Elizabeth Hurley, you look amazing for your age You're gorgeous Wonderful woman with a nice little British accent if you'd like to become a policy wonk too You can do so by going to our website knowledge fight calm clicking the sport the show button

I'd like to say there's a number of people who donated since Alex Jones turned on Trump And we appreciate it so much. He assumed they'll be canceling their donations immediately, right? I have no idea why that rallied the troops, but man, I appreciate it. We are shockingly close to like Making this work for me like living wise really yeah We are getting we are getting ever closer and everyone. I appreciate it so much if you would like to donate We would appreciate it. It goes towards survival. Yeah It goes towards food. Yeah more or less and to a lesser extent cigarettes and rent

That's a big one. So last we spoke Jordan. Yes last time We did an emergency episode that came out on Saturday and on that episode We experienced Alex Jones telling Donald Trump that he is shit on his shoe He is not as big a man as Alex Jones not just that but he's got some shit up his dirty hairy asshole, and it's ice I Believe so the other choice quotes were fuck Trump and fuck everybody That's a good one. He was in a fucking piece of shit fucking fuck you. He was in a real bad state on Friday night Let's check in how he's doing on Monday. I still back Trump. I just flipped out. I'm all right. Okay

Fucking boring. This is so frustrating You had Yeah, that's where you jump off How do you go back to somebody with Isis up there dirty asshole man this We were talking before the show and I told you that there was a reason why I've been downed in the dumps Right, and I didn't want to explain it to you until we got on air and this is fucking why this is so lame This is so lame. We had this possibility laying in front of us of like a complete narrative shift Right, we have like oh my god

The world was our oyster after this year and a half of watching him just be a bootlicking jerk Yeah, we could finally see and I don't think that they're I look I don't know I've heard some people on in our Facebook group who are speculating of like a return to the Alex of the past But let me be the first to tell you there is no redemption. There is no no, no, no, absolutely There is no redemption story. I'm holding out hope for but I want something different I mean, he's still a white nationalist at the end of the day Trump is just not his white nationalist anymore or it wasn't yeah, and now he is again It's just pathetic. I wanted something different. I wanted a new flavor to experience instead of this

This shit on a shingle. He's been feeding me for all this time. Such a he had such an opportunity Mm-hmm. It's so disappointing. It's so like I it's weird for me to say to a white nationalist garbage fucking Trump-loving Pila of shit. Mm-hmm that I'm disappointed in you. I'm pretty disappointed But I'm pretty disappointed in you as much fun. I'm not mad Disappointed in you child as much fun as we had with the like him freaking out drunkenly on air I

Still I still thought it was petulant and stupid of course, but at the same time you're like come on dude Hi ride of this moment. I know ride it. It would have been awesome You know what though? I don't know I can't figure out exactly what the situation is because Roger Stone's not on this episode Oh, I don't know. I don't know if he like got a call from them or something money money I mean it could be money backers were like Ah No, I think it's not I think I think that he's still holding out some like you saw what I could do there Right, and I can do that again, right all it takes is a little bit of Jack and I'm gonna be

Because like a lot of the coverage of it was like how stupid is Trump he's lost Alex Jones, right? You know that sort of thing. Yeah, so Trump took a little bit of a hit. I think now he didn't well I think still doesn't know who I think I think in the online world He took a little bit of a hit and he probably I think that there was a possible. I don't know. You're right Yeah, what am I fucking talking about the only person no idea who Alex Jones is the only person who took a hit from that Was Alex because he realized oh shit. No one else likes me anymore except for Trump fans, right? What am I gonna do right? He's the best I've got Rand Paul is not electable Even if you went back to him Ted Cruz is a disaster you can't go back to him

He's the zodiac. There's literally nobody else on the global scene that Alex could shift and be behind All he could do is go solo again like he had for for a long time, right when he was poorer Exactly money exactly money all of that fan base All that fan base would go away with him, but I do think here's what's interesting. Yes He is back more or less being like in the saddle again. Mm-hmm. He's gonna ride I do think that He's he's cucked himself out a little bit by by going back But he's also I think everyone who doesn't actually listen to Alex Jones's show is missing out on the larger narrative

And that is I think Alex Jones is about to lose his goddamn mind and turn this into an actual cult Yeah, like he's he's gone so close to towing the line of Info Wars being a cult and Listen to this first clip. I think it's the introduction of like things are things are not good Most children out there can't even hold conversations. I mean society is collapsing ladies and gentlemen And it's going to get a lot worse We need rehabs from cell phones. We need rehabs from internet. We need rehabs from television. We need rehabs from the culture I'm telling you if I had the money I'd set up resorts With no TV no radio no newspapers

caliphones and With you know, we trade guns frisbee and swimming pools and volleyball and hiking with underage girls biggest hits in the world That's what people need. I know they've got some of these people people for us Bay than one empty It's gotta happen folks we are dying Well, I mean did he get one of the Beach Boys to help him out is he living with one of that guys like legitimately how quick Would that turn dark? Oh? Alex Jones running You're not allowed to watch TV you can't have access to the outside world right phones right all we do is go swim

He's essentially talking about dr. Kellogg. Yeah, like we're gonna go swim you get two enemas a day Yeah, all we eat is this bullshit. Yeah, he might as well be like this is this is like I Think I and this isn't the only time he brings up these sorts of weird fantasies Right now granted in the secret of 2017 episode that we listened to he did start crying and talking about how we all belong on farmhouses Yes, so that sort of thing is inside is like this already But this is a different wrinkle to it because he's saying I don't even think no matter what you do You can make it in this world. I think we got to go to the woods right or whatever and it's gonna get worse And I am the unabomber. They got the wrong guy. It's me. That's why you know bomber

That's why I check out my manifesto That's why Alex thinks that the only thing in that bill joy article why the future doesn't need us is the unabomber quote Yeah Hey, I fucking wrote that no there's no way he could be the unabomber that was eloquently written Yeah, Alex is illiterate. Um, so at this point, you know, we've got this like we've got to go to the woods kind of narrative beginning Which is not great but We got to go to the woods and I I don't disagree. I feel that way sometimes

No, I totally get it. I just don't want to come you and I want to be alone in the woods Could you also get a good could you get a good massage Alex Jones's resort probably let me tell you I've only got one massage in my life and I'll say I'm not for him Yeah, I Rated never gotten one. I had one time I threw out my back and at the time. I was a member of a gym Oh, I had a masseuse there. Okay, and so I went got a massage and it was it was a comedy of errors I was coming in as like a 32 year old dude. I'd never gotten a massage before so I didn't this was last year Like two years ago. Yeah, okay. I didn't know what protocol was or anything like I didn't should I get naked right?

Do I jump in do we do we talk a little bit first? How do I tip? Like all the all the form with the tip. All right. Hey, it was all just so weird Anyway, uh, speaking of weird things the other thing Alex Jones needs to do is like I got to go back to my bread and butter I got to go back to what made me and that is Chimera's Suddenly you can go have a new humanoid made grown in a tank They'll say oh, it's proprietary you can't see it the tank is a Brainless cow and this is classified, but I'm gonna I got this from classified sources Most of this is already public, but they have brainless cows all they have is a brainstem

So that they quote don't go through any pain that's called the tank and it's all in an enclosure And then the tanks grow the humanoids Believe they're called the penny And they harvest the humanoids in case you are a of all their work Herbert fan And and by the way, that's all the literature, but the part about science fiction I think it's huge. Yeah, they admit they're growing them and God ever do the new thing is they're gonna call them tanks So you so don't even tell you that there's a cow in there doing this. Okay. All right, Alex Yeah, that's there. Yeah, that's literally that's literally doing this just describing Dune

He just read Dune. This is one of my like least favorite things about Alex Jones is the like this is classified That sort of things. It's like, huh? Well now now I can't look into this But I can tell you that everything that is on the record about the chimeras and you're like growing organs inside Pigs and stuff like that does not involve brainless animal tanks Well now that part that part is slightly unrealistic. Let me ask you a question. Yeah, is he really just kind of insulting like like women was it his cow like a

Euphemism is a little literal cows literal cow How could you grow a humanoid in a brainless cow? You put him in there That's it, I don't know it's classified just cream them in I can't fucking look into it It's classified now. I just have an image of a guy with like a little egg and he's just like Right the science behind like growing organs and animals and stuff like that that have you know slight human genes and them for the purposes of growing Organs that could be transplanted into other people right is really fascinating, but it's not that It's not that If no it ain't I will say if that is going on that's troubling

Troubling if true. I would like to see that classified information Alex because I'm gonna be honest I would like to see that so Alex is clearly also like like we played in that intro clip He's he's waffling on Trump, but he speaks a little more on it in this this next clip like where are his allegiances? I've wanted to support President Trump in that. I know he's an anti-globalist another globalist hate him Our power structure doesn't like he was he actually wants to be the president Trump literally said I am a globalist Let me ask you a question Dan. Yeah, what also happened today in regards to Trump and Quote-unquote hating the the globalist hating is this the TPP situation. No, oh It is that he paused all the sanctions on Russia. Oh, yeah, there's that

We're definitely gonna be doing that and Trump was like nah, dude We don't we don't mess with Russia for any reason ever Yeah, I read an article in the Hill about that and I'm willing to believe that Nikki Haley might have announced something prematurely I'm willing to believe that possibility, but at the same time Why wouldn't you do that Trump? It's a good question. I don't know. It's It's weird. Anyway, Alex, uh, you know Trump is anti-globalist sure though though all of these things and him saying I'm a globalist. Yeah

But I know he's done some basic things that are good for the economy in the country Like a bitch, but if he starts going sideways to their agenda It's the global awakening to what's happening and nationalism and populism that I am loyal to not Trump and I'm not Thinking Trump's even a bad guy. He's surrounded He's being demonized. He's being persecuted. He's being lied about. He's being pressured And there's the old trap of sir, here's the intelligence. Okay, bomb it my approval rating will go up. That's not good If your guy is That's stupid god damn it Alex. You got it. Yeah, you figured that shit out

How are you so stupid on everything else? It makes perfect sense. That's exactly why he bombed shit He's too busy thinking about these brainless cows. The last time he bombed something Brian Williams sucked his dick Yep. Yep. That's how it works. And now you can get that that You know that going again, you can go for a second ride. Oh, absolutely were and are everybody in government is Always been itching to kind of get some of that get their rocks off with bombs and shit Right, so even even shit Democrats are gonna support it and they're gonna be like he's really tough on Syria and bye Bye-bye while at the mean at the same time doing fuck all but now Let's consider to like what he's talking about there is he says my alloy my allegiances and my loyalty lies with the populist

Nationalist movements around the world. Yeah, those down on one hand. We got Putin. We got Marine Le Pen She's great. We got Geert Wilders in the Netherlands Fantastic, those are the only people he seems to ever bring up as populist nationalist folk Well, he's a big fan of Nigel Farage to true true Brexit. Yep Do we have any of the populist nationalists in Africa? No, do you ever bring those up? No, I mean except for the white ones in South Africa. Sure the sweet landers Yeah, he does bring them up. Does he even know where South America is. Does he know what populism is code for? You know what nationalism is code for. Well, I think he does. I think he knows what nationalism means

I don't think he I nobody should ever use the word populism. It's so infuriating to me because I know that triggers It's a non word that people use to describe anything where it seems like oh, yeah People are angry about this. Yeah fucking stupid. So people are stupid. I don't disagree with you But he's so is Brian Williams. I'm pissed off at Brian. Well, it sucks He's a fucking yeah, but you hear this this my allegiances are to the net this nationalist movement worldwide and it's like well All those people are proto fascists. Yeah, so if that's what you're if that's what you're into worldwide Boy, I'll tell you what proto well or aspiring because most of them lost Their elections you can be a fascist as a civilian and it's fine

Listen Marine you can be anything you want to be when you grow up. I want to be a fascist That's not what her dad would say no, no, no, I was I was doing a she was at school Oh, I was assuming yeah, yeah, she was at a wonderful French private school where they were Absolutely appalled at her behavior, right, right? Yeah Something that is appalling again, I can't do the transitions today We talked you're gonna be okay We started earlier in the show talking about Alex wanting to go to the woods wanting this to be like and this is where he gets back To it and it's it's more troubling than the last clip

But I got to tell you I Don't think you can save your family And I don't think you can save yourself At this point being amongst people that are like this I think I discovered the same thing that the pilgrims figured out and nope England and and and and in the Netherlands No, 450 years ago, whatever you're about to say. I think I'm trying out the same thing Oh, the people figured out when they involve themselves in an exodus super wrong the Israelites out of Egypt you name it what where we going I Don't think you can live in this modern world

And even homeschool your kids and get out of this don't do that in fact There's nowhere to hide actually I it's it's it's absolute cancer and it is the end of humanity And it's already got his tentacles all around our throats. Whoa That's pretty apocalyptic. That's a that's pretty apocalyptic culty right there. That's the the world is ending I'll tell you something talk anymore. Everyone needs to get off electronics. We got to go to Alex Jones branded resorts around the world It's impossible to make Make it through life with these liberals all around you all around even if you homeschool your kids There's no way you can't do it and you shouldn't homeschool your kid. I Alex Jones. I'm like a pilgrim

Which is in an accurate reading of the pilgrims history or actually perhaps very accurate because yeah, that might be a fucking asshole Who is absolutely a religious supremacist as well? Yeah, so of course we want to kick him out and make him go to somewhere else But then you get the Israelites in Egypt and it's like are you enslaved, bro? Um? Hey, bro The liberals did it that metaphor might be lacking a tiny bit it might be wrong. Yeah, wait. We're the Anybody anybody who's done an exodus. That's that's his that's his Uh

What reference I mean, he's what's your favorite exodus? Ah the book. I don't know the book. Yeah, man It was the Israelites. I guess it wasn't that great. It was kind of it's kind of boring. Yeah, they just wandered for 40 years I like that though. It's not about the destination I will say that I think he's probably pretty close to like pitching himself as a modern-day Socrates I think we might be close to that. Oh, can we make him poison himself? Well to be fair if you go and read it. Yeah, no, no, no that yeah Well, and not even that it was more like they were like hey, please leave please leave if you don't leave We have to make you drink poison. We don't want you to right yet

All his buddies come and be like we got a boat for you. Yeah, let's just go man Let's have an exodus. Oh, I'm gonna become one of Alex Jones's favorite exodus He got he got found He got found guilty and then the the boolei was just like hey you can choose your own punishment Right, and he's like I think you guys should feed me for the rest of my life. All right. We're killing you Yeah, that's one of the things that I've always like been fascinated by about Socrates is like people, you know like Thinking he was kind of just a questioner that was like hey I just like to provoke thought or whatever you like. No, he was an asshole. Yeah

He was he was more like they they talk about the Socratic method as being like you ask questions and bring people to their own Understanding and it's more like the guy who's like. Oh, yeah. Well, what do you think about that? Yeah, just oh, yeah Well, what do you think about that that tone hadn't developed? Yeah, exactly that that sarcastic voice So we covered it in Nauseating detail the Friday episode where he turned on Trump. Here's his take on it on Monday And I apologize to some of the audience that saw one of the live feeds It wasn't over the satellites the TV stations, but I did here in studio for for being angry and being a bit vulgar But I he's talking about the like Twitter clips that we heard of him like screaming and stuff like that

He doesn't apologize for the Trump has ISIS up his dirty ass. I was gonna say I feel like he should apologize to Isis or screaming obscenity To the point where Owen Troyer had to remind him we're out of delay Sorry, I try to control myself a lot and It feels good to let yourself have it out burst occasionally It's cathartic. Sure. I had it. Was it fake? Absolutely not. But did I let the dog off the chain? Yes, who who who who who knock because If they can start to turn Trump

One degree they can turn him 180 degrees. That's also not great to say about your guy. Yeah I mean compromise is impossible. Here's here's the here's essentially what he just said If you turn Trump one degree He is weak and pathetic and will go all the way easily. There's no there's no like Trump is going to meet you halfway There's either you get a little bit of a Breaking that armor and then you get all of it. Yeah, there is no there is no possible. Like what he's saying is to a great degree is My boy can't govern. No. No

No, absolutely. He can strong arm. He can be a dictator, but your boy can't govern well Also, he can be very weak-willed and callow. Oh, yeah, chat rooms reminding me He also didn't apologize for screaming about sucking on a ding dong Well, there's nothing to apologize there for oh bad, there's no Insinuating that Roger Stone was a beard. Yeah, well, I mean Roger Stone Roger Stone Fox. Yeah, so The international community is largely of the mind That the gassing that took place in Syria was Done by Assad or Assad's forces. Yeah, I think absolutely was I think our position

I like our position a bit in terms of there might have been oversight on it There might not have been who knows those answers are impossible to know really all kinds of stuff I I feel like a lot of people discount the fact that Everybody is kind of shitty at their jobs sure one day of the week That's why the expression the fog of war. Yeah. Yeah, and they were just probably like frankly It's entirely possible that the people in the helicopter who were dropping those bombs or the the planer Whatever, we're just like oh Shit we labeled these wrong

I think that's too. That's too easy and out but it is to know it's why are they in the plane in the first place? You know that kind of thing but be that as it may there's also story on the other hand The first rule of Syrian Boy Scouts is be prepared to drop chemical weapons Why not? Yeah, there's also a story that's coming out today. I believe I believe it's day. I might have been yesterday I'm not entirely sure but about Russia blocking investigators from going looking at the sites I can't imagine why and that's certainly very confusing Is it because they also helped cover up the the sites themselves? It does look that way I could but Alex in the middle of the show accidentally reads an anti-russian headline about the Syrian situation and here's how he deals with it a

New breaking article. Let's put that on screen because I've been showing what the Russians are saying I want to show what? Syria strike live updates Russia may have tampered with chemical attack sites US Envoy says yeah, they wouldn't let him in the day of the bombing Because the road was closed so now the US Envoy saying the British group trying to go and test for chemicals might have been blocked That's herot saying that okay the road was blocked That's oh That's a that's a stunning dismissal a lot of war-torn countries You're like oh man if this two-lane road is blocked guess we're done seems like that would be a very different story

Because that's really easy to you know sauce out road was blocked right hey that happens very different than being stopped from It's like it's like on the it's like when I'm around the red line And they're like there's gonna be delays because there was a chemical weapons attack at Chicago and state and it's like Again, yeah, I know it's you can't you can't avoid it That's a bit. It's a real pain in the ass in this Chicago commute. I know it's like an extra 12 minutes Yeah, so I mentioned to you up top that Roger Stone is nowhere to be found. I don't know what he's doing. You might be hiding out escaping It's entirely possible. So Alex has got to get some other folks in to fill out the show

And so he has Gerald Salenty on it's kind of boring. It's another it's a continuation of The Joel scousen appearance from Friday. Tell me. I'm a good boy. Yeah, there's there is stuff like we're Gerald Salenty is like you didn't do anything wrong. No if Trump went bad. It's not your fault. Oh, he did that not you Yeah, yeah, you're a big deal. You did good and look I like that you're supporting him again, too You know what you go back. I go back. I think Gerald Salenty is actually 50-50 on it really he doesn't seem to have like He he just wants to talk about trends and money markets and stuff like that, of course He's more interested in that so I don't even think he I want to talk to the Info War staffer who was who watched that video And then the next day was like, oh

Shit, I'm gonna get to do some exciting shit now and then has to go into work on Monday. Just I Don't think even Monday because he put out a video on like Saturday. Oh and his Sunday show also just being like I Have no backbone. I will I will give it into anything. So I am I'm so weak so weak Low energy. Oh, yeah Actually, he's pretty high energy. That's not that criticism I can give him still still sad and pathetic So the other guest that he has on here on Monday's show is a gentleman by the name of Paul Craig Roberts

And Paul Craig Roberts worked in Reagan's Treasury Department, I believe he was an undersecretary in the Treasury Department. Okay And we'll get into some other troubling pieces of his history, but here is a clip So once again to reiterate how bad Reagan's administration was Eventually half of them show up on the Info War show exactly. Yeah, here's a clip of him talking about how Russia is great, I think he's clearly

Under attack or has been from the military security complex because of his original Statement that he would normalize relations with Russia That statement was a huge threat to the budget and the power of the military security complex And that's where Russia gate and all the other false Accusations that have been used against Trump to force him into a militarist position Okay That's something you know that that is that's actually a really good Thought hmm. I mean, it's dumb in the way that he's dumb, but it is it is kind of an interesting thought whenever you

Take in how many hard right Russia Hawks there are right where in there just like We fucking loved the Cold War our National Security Advisor right now Yeah, it seemed it seemed awesome when we were fighting the Cold War all kinds of good shit happened, right? So let's just keep on doing that. Yeah, it's way better than fighting these Middle East Wars. See those cost a shit ton of money This is another piece of the equation that we haven't really discussed Nearly as much and that is that Bolton is also a kind of anti Russia Hawk guy Yeah, so like his introduction into the the fold Probably has to creep out Alex a little bit now

Like he I don't think he was worried before because he had Roger telling him he's an apparatchik Right like that before but now I think he's got to be worried about that and he he does say a couple things about Bolton Being like fuck this guy. He's been in for a week and now we're right now The other take on that is Bolton is actually the janitor from the Looney Tunes cartoons. It's possible if you recall I think that's one of his early. Oh, yeah That was back when his mustache was still a little darker gray So the other thing that we need to take into account I think is important is that Paul Craig Roberts has written for Sputnik and Russia insider since at least 2014

Also tough to find a blogging gig man since 2016. He's written for Alexander Dugan's think tanks website catechon So is it is it is Dugan hiring? I think he's got a full staff. I could use a regular gig He's got a full staff and they all mysteriously pop up on Alex Jones a show. It's really strange giving narratives that all are mysteriously Pro Russia. It's a coincidence. So here's some of the articles that he's written for Sputnik will Putin realize that Russia holds all the cards Washington is destroying the world American government cannot be trusted to tell the truth

Washington is defaming Vladimir Putin Putin calls out Washington privatization is the Atlantisist strategy to attack Russia Just in that headline we have the Atlantis versus You have the Eurasianism narrative coming in or even just in that headline. So he's buying into that divide Just on just based on the headlines. I would give him a 500 batting average for stuff that makes sense. Well, here's some more like hey Dan You can't trust the American government to tell the truth, right? But it's different. That's just a true thing

It's different when you're saying that on a podcast or like apropos of nothing just making a statement And when you're doing it on Sputnik when you're writing an article I'd say it on Sputnik. I'd do it right now. This podcast would be over if you did that Why because I would be there. I'd be very opposed to that. I'd be very opposed if you did that on MSNBC NPR NPR was trying to think of like I feel like if I said you can't trust the American government on PR I would well one not be allowed on NPR. I'm too loud. We get some ratings very loud Yeah, and to they'd be like Hmm. Hmm. I think that there's a difference between

Places that are legit state-run media in places that aren't I think there is although we're fastly approaching a time where it's not Yeah, I was gonna say so also the only real state-run media is Fox News at this point Like in America or or maybe the only government that's run by media is ours because it like NPR Beyond listener funding has grants and endowments from the government and stuff like that You know, there's like a voice of America and shit like right, but the the state clearly isn't using NPR as their mouthpiece. No And it seems it seems like there is a pretty solid Fox News control over the entire government Yeah, when the president watches Fox and friends and is like those are some good policy ideas

We're not in a good place So here's some more headlines the Paul Craig Roberts has written for Russian media Steve do sees great America has no unifying moral culture. It will lose a war with Russia Well, will Russia wake up the West seeks its destruction? Okay, so All right, it seems like he kind of is a Russia guy a lot of apocalyptic people. Yeah, everybody's really apocalyptic lately Yeah, I can't imagine why yeah, also Also, if you believe in the pre-trib rapture, I think now's the time to let it go I think I think Triv is is kind of happening. I think that's a in play

Why don't you go get a timeshare one of Alex's resorts? I might yeah, so, you know, I've heard timeshares are great investments Indeed. I've heard that on timeshare commercials The the thing that I'm taking away from this is that you've got Paul Craig Roberts coming in and telling Alex, you know Like more or less Russia is a good guy. They're the good actors here, which Alex already believes anyway And they talk about they talk more or less just like that's the that's the driving point And then when you look into his past he's written for Russian publications Incredibly anti-American things for a very long time. It's it's weird. It's fucking weird. I mean, it's not it's it's Definitely not a trend. We have not seen

On on info wars, but it's it's it is it is one of those things where somehow it is far more Effective to have a guest on that just echoes the shit that you've already said so you can echo it back to them Right, it's kind of it's kind of almost a it's your pressure kind of situation It's no coincidence that he's here now, right. Oh, no, of course Of course call PCR. We need we need we need some of that good old Russia didn't do it Juju. Yeah, yeah, you can do that or you can call shaggy. Those are those are Russian shaggy But I saw you with the cylinder. It wasn't me trying to try and do that in a Russian accent

I saw you guessing you were on people. It wasn't me In Mike on three people gas you all right. All right. All right. I almost met him one night. Oh, yeah You did our friend. What were you in the user aid Nashville? No, we were in Springfield Our friend Tyler Snodgrass His friends with Yakov like he used to write jokes for him back when he before he moved to Chicago Why did I not know this about Tyler Snodgrass? Boy, I hope that's not He's talked about it But we did a show at the blue room in Springfield, I believe I believe as a name of the place and

Yakov came out to the show because Tyler was of course he did and it was embarrassing Just watching people want to come talk to Yakov Smyrnov. Nothing against him. He's a legend in the game He's a legend, but at the same time. I was like, I don't want to fucking go like getting a crowd to talk to Yakov Smyrnov I felt very weird about like just you know being a fanboy for Yakov the only well. Are you a fanboy for Yakov? I respect him. I don't think I don't like his comedy. I respect him, right? Yeah, I Would I I would like to see you in a picture with Yakov Smyrnov

With his arm around your shoulder giving you the thumbs up if we could go back and do it all over again I would like that to exist, but I'm oh, yeah, I'm glad I didn't betray my principles Oh sure by going over. Yeah, we could never do this show if you've got a Yakov Smyrnov connection. That's that's Russia That's pro Russia all the way. Absolutely. Yeah, where is he from? I don't think it's Russia. Uh, Yakov? Yeah, I think he is. You think he's Russia? I don't know. He certainly acts like it. It's interesting. Interesting. I never thought to look into it. I never cared. I want to say that he was from part of the former Soviet Union, but he wasn't actually from mainland Russia. The timeline matches up. That's entirely possible. Yeah. So at this point in the show, he also brings in the man, the myth, Dr. Steve Pachanik.

Ooh, where's Dr. Steve Landon? He's just like he just wants Alex to shut up kind of I think. All right, I like it. I think he's sort of like, I know you had to have your outburst, but like, stop it. I think at this point, Steve is kind of sick of Alex's shit. Yeah, he kind of I think he wants him back backing Trump, because that's the easiest status quo for him to defend. Right. And it gives Steve a good footing. Because I think Steve realizes that without Alex Jones, his credibility goes away too, because he's not on anyone else's show. No, what does he have then a blog? Yeah, but what else is Steve like? How old is Steve? I would put him at 60 something. Yeah, so this is a healthy 60. This is really Steve's last game. Like if at any point in time, if Info Wars dries up, he's gone. He's got 20 years ahead of him. No, but not in any kind of media form. No. If he's if he's not involved with media, if with Info Wars, and he can't roll with the punches on if Alex changes the narrative, Steve isn't rolling with it.

I think he could. Oh, yeah, I think he could. Yeah, I think he could. But he would be the one he he would work it in such a way that he's leading the horse. You know what I mean? Okay, like he'd be able to manipulate Alex. Okay, whatever Alex's next wrinkle will be probably Steve Pachennik mastermind it. Okay, I mean, we've seen this already. I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying I don't manipulate him so easily. Well, I mean, it's not hard. No. The two of them kind of fight a little bit. Okay, because it's just sort of a like, you know, they're neither of the no one's in a good place post Friday. Right. You know, I'm not Alex isn't it. Pachennik isn't either. It's gonna it's gonna take a week before everybody just let's have before we get back to normal. Yeah, yeah. Pachennik isn't thrilled because it's an embarrassing thing to be associated with. Alex isn't a good place because he realizes can't get that off the internet. Nope. And boy, I

really need to go back into the Trump camp. Oh boy. Howdy. Yep. That's embarrassing. My bread just got less buttered. And so they just sort of talk about that. It's not a very interesting interview. But one thing that I think is incredibly interesting is that Steve has opened up a new finishing school. No, that would be fascinating. That would be fascinating. They're at every single one of Alex's resorts. Yep. Yep. Steve Pachennik school for ladies. I assume you have to balance a book on your head. I think I hear that today. There's Catillion classes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He creates debutantes. Right. No. Who call their mothers regularly? No, that is not. Um, so, uh, what, uh, what we have is that Steve Pachennik is appearing with a painting behind him. And the painting hung up. The painting has. How's our boy?

I don't know. I watched him, uh, a while back and I'm, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Is he okay? Yeah, I am. Oh, okay. I was, I was worrying. I'm seeing people talking about the suffix Tard being attached to words. No, that's not cool. No, I agree with it, but I was worried that we had said something. No, I don't think something in the chat. I got very scared that we had, uh, we had been assholes, but be that as it may. I gotta stop saying that. Yeah. Um, so Steve appears on, uh, with a, with a, with a painting behind him that is, uh, heavily breasted. There's titties. Okay. It is just a slightly pornographic image of a guy coming down, uh, some sort of figure grabbing a woman with her breasts out and it's incredibly weird.

And they don't bring it up for the first segment that Steve is on. I'm guessing Steve had to pose for a long time for them to make that portrait. Steve absolutely did this on purpose. He did this on purpose. He's broadcasting in front of a fucking painting that's square behind him with huge titties on it. He did that on purpose for sure. Absolutely. All right. Was he also broadcasting from an 80s car wash? No. Set up to save the rec center? Nope. This is his office. And so Alex finally brings it up. And I think it's invalidating on a number of levels.

And then they're just always going up to Trump and then there's nothing there. So now it's his lawyer and now it's, uh, some other Republican paid a million and six to some woman who cares, man? It's crazy. It's corruption. But this art, let me analyze it. Uh, last Friday's patronic was on, he doesn't normally have this grotesque Deviant Art up here. And, uh, I couldn't really analyze it. I didn't think to analyze it. I saw it was like military folks that looked like vampire bats, uh, you know, out, you know, doing something or maybe showing how the evil of war has corrupted the human soul.

But this one, this one, I'm going to describe it right now. That's a Lucifer figure, uh, up there at the top that you really can't see that has wings that are satellite, uh, solar panels showing it's like the artificial God in the sky that Lucifer wants to be this technocracy. You've got the US military and people that are patriots trying to lift up, uh, you know, the Mary, uh, earth goddess Christ figure image that's been struck down by Lucifer and this whole system and it shows the struggle between these two, uh, art types there. Uh, so, so I would call this the fruit of Lucifer is the name of this art piece. So the reason that, oh my God, Alex, the art critic,

fuck, I want to go to a museum with Alex. Well, I want to go to a museum with Alex so bad. That would be great. He'd be very angry. Alex, you are invited to the MoMA in Chicago. Please. Oh, that'd be great. We will talk about nothing but art. There's got to be a museum down in Austin. We can invite him to while we're there. Oh, of course. Um, the, the Steve corrects him, uh, tells him what the art is actually about. Yeah. But, uh, the, the thing that I think is more important is that this, uh, presentation from Alex, because you can even hear him say this satanic, deviant art in a joking way. Right. Um, and then he explains what he sees there and he says the end of it,

it's the, uh, the fruit of Satan. Um, you know, cause women, he doesn't care that Steve Pachennik has weird art, but that's what he screams about all the time with John Podesta, that he has weird art. Right. That means some sort of, oh, some, he's sick in the head. He's got this deviant art all around. What is deviant art? It's anything that Alex thinks is weird. I know it when I see it. Yeah, exactly. It's like porno. Yeah. Uh, but like this is key. I think Steve Pachennik broadcasted in front of that painting just to fuck with Alex's head. Yeah. Or not to fuck with his head, but to like that ruins his argument about, uh, John Podesta, that whole thing goes away. Pachennik does not care about Podesta. I think he's subtly trying to undercut a bunch of, uh,

and maybe this is fantasy booking on my part. Yeah. This is, this is you acting as Alex, the art critic, but his behavior, like Steve Pachennik very clearly intentionally broadcasted in front of that picture because he broadcasts in front of a bunch of different things. Right. Like that one day that he broadcast in front of a flowchart of hip hop artists, you know, like he broadcasts in front of things. That's true. It's not like, it does tend to have a little bit of fun. It's not like a riddle, but he has a like, oh, I'm going to broadcast from here with this behind me today. He's doing that. I think here's my theory. And again, I have nothing to back this up. I think the next six months, what we're going to see out of Steve Pachennik is one by one,

providing evidence why everything Alex Jones has stood for has been bullshit. Okay. But you have to pay attention to every single thing. Pachennik is all about Easter eggs. Exactly. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Next episode, he's going to be eating Greek yogurt. That would be fantastic. That's what I think is happening. It's probably not. And I'm just bored sitting here in like a, the satellite of love basically watching this shit. Very nice. I like to believe, I like to believe that Steve Pachennik is doing something interesting. He's probably not. Now, looking at the sculpture, we can see that this woman has large breasts, but no arms. I assume that's a, that's a God removing the arms of women for having breasts. What if Steve Pachennik,

a couple of episodes from now has like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, that, uh, that big, uh, that, uh, that painting of a world coming out of a pussy, or what if he has, uh, that skull covered in semen? Oh man. If he was just holding it the whole time, if he had turned it into a chalice, it was just flavor flaving it the whole time. Or love it. Or yeah, it's just behind him and he never mentions it. That would be pretty amazing. There's a weird sheen. So, you know, there's something fresh on top of it. Yeah. Okay. No, I was talking about the light reflecting off of it. I know, I know. In a very, uh, uh, evocative way. So this next clip, uh, deals with a little bit of, uh, difference. Like, uh, uh, we're in this no man's land of, I love hate, I love hate Trump. You know, there's a, uh,

a Schrodinger's Trump going on. Um, in this clip, Alex is sort of expressing that Trump is good. Trump is good because the globalists legitimately hate him. It's not a fake. It's not a faint. It's not a game. It's not a spoken mirrors and it's not perfect. And I don't expect him to get everything done. That's right. But he knows all about Syria. He knows all about the rebels being sent in by the globalists. He knows he told McMaster, no, we're not toppling Assad. Assad's already agreed to leave. He wants to, he just grew up in England. He doesn't want to be there. He said, stabilize and have elections. I'm gone. They've all, they've almost killed him. Happens all the time with dictator bombs go off within hundreds of yards of him.

Last time I read like over 50 times, that sounds like someone bragging about their dad telling a not true story. Yeah. My dad growing up in London. Once out of there. No. So it's, it's just incredible. We're being sabotaged. And, and you know, when I talk about Hillary and people, here's the thing, the bottom is falling out. I don't know exactly what's going on. You could just stop there. Yeah, that would be a great, that'd be a great sentence to end with a period. And now is the time for Larry Nichols to come back. He's not on the show, but now is the time. You gotta bring back Larry Nix because this narrative is weak. He needs to get away from it. All of this, he needs to do what all of the right wing

media does and be like, nah, if, if things don't look good. Hey, what else do we not said about Hillary? Yeah, let's pretend like that's, that's exactly what Fox news did for Hannity, where they were like, Oh, it appears that Hannity was mentioned in the Cohen. What else is going on? What else is in the news? How you guys feeling about it? Yeah. But the Hillary jump is what they need to do. And who better than Mr. Blackmailing Congress himself? How's that going? Did he win boy? He has not been on since we did that episode. Really? Yeah. I didn't even realize that until the other day. That is fantastic. He has not been on Alex Jones's show to the best of my knowledge. And I listen every day. I'm sure blackmailed

Congress on it. There is a coincidence of some sort. Right. Cause he's making ill. I will be goddamned if that isn't hilarious. It does feel like there might be a connection between that, like, Oh, Hey, you did commit a felony on here. And no one's listening. I would. No one's listening to Dan and Jordan, but they did point it out. I would prefer it. If it was, it was it our episode or was it his episode? What do you mean? Uh, the last time Larry Nichols was both, both. We put our episode out like right after he had blackmailed Congress. Didn't we? Yeah. It was that close? I thought we took a while. No, I thought it was like a few weeks. No, no, it was like right up there. That was a present day thing. Oh, that's true. You're right. That's fantastic.

Oh, did we torpedo Larry Nichols info wars career? That would, that would go on my resume immediately. Hey, step to us. We put Larry Nichols on the bench. Dude, and then now this is a whole new world for us. Let's get the contact info for all of these fucks. Oh, yeah. Oh, let's call Steve. Let's call Steve. Oh, no, I do. I do know what you're saying. I didn't realize that you were asking the episode where we talked to Larry Nichols, right? The episode that we brought up that he had blackmailed Congress. Right. Those were about a week apart. Okay. But yes. Oh, yeah. Okay. I apologize. I did not understand what you mean. Um, yeah, we do need to call these fools. Oh man, we could destroy info wars. Oh shit. It turns out we have more power than we've ever

imagined, Dan. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. If we can torpedo a guy like Larry Nichols career, I mean, that was ascending again. He was at the height again, not necessarily torpedoing, but we put him on the bench. Get out of here with you. Oh man, the moment he comes back on if we're going to call him the next day, right? Well, I mean, the next next time he's on, it's got to be about how like, nah, the caliphate is still being built. Yeah. I know it's been a year and a half and nothing has happened. Now, I know that Linda Bloodworth Thomas is a witch. She is a witch. All right, Larry, which which is so in this next clip, which is the, you know, Trump is good. Globalists are bad. Assad wants to go to London. I mean, I think there's a really easy way

for this to play out. Assad could say anything like that. Yeah. Assad could just go to London. Yeah. He could actually know he fucking couldn't. There's no way that there's no way that the UK is letting Assad in. Just like, oh, your passport is fine. Stamp. Come on in. No. No, no, no. But if this shit is true, there's a way to negotiate all of the stuff that like, oh, and like a week. Yeah. All of this would be very easy to work out for him. Absolutely. He's just like, look, I've just been fighting these bad guys this whole time. I don't want to be a dictator. I'm in a bad situation. I want to get out of it, which is even if it's not London, he could get asylum in some other country. He could just flee and just be like, look, this has gotten out of

control. I don't want to be a part of it anymore. Or he could. I don't know. There's a whole lot of other actions he could take. Right. And that's the whole thing about this, this stupid idea of the like the Russians Assad and our government or our military behind our government's back made this deal. Putin has no reason not to say that that happened. Yeah. Why not? At this point, fucking throw it out there. At this point, if he's already saying the United States is, they don't follow through with their, you know, their word and stuff like that, you're already halfway there. Just come out and validate Alex's argument. That'd be fun. Why not? I mean, I wouldn't believe him. But if that would be, if Putin just came out and was

like, dude, we negotiated the secret deal behind the government's back with the American military to get rid of Assad and now they're backing out, that would be the best news day ever. And if it's true, you know, he has evidence. Oh, yeah. He's a KGB officer. He doesn't enter into a tripartite agreement behind the president of a country's back without some sort of corroborating evidence. There's a recording of everything that Trump has ever said to Putin. No, no, no, because this isn't Trump. This is the heroes in our military. Trump is just following through with it. Fine. There's a recording of everything that Stalin has ever said to anyone, except for, of course, the oligarchs with whom he would prefer recordings not exist. Right. So in this next

clip, we learn about one of the reasons that the globalists are really bad. I know the globalist push depopulation and I know they're doing all sorts of stuff behind the scenes and testing things on us, trying to find cures for diseases for themselves. The best way to do that is hit people with stuff that's lethal. And then you find a very small percentage that are resistant. One quick way to research just one small faction of that or one factor point is immortal cell lines, Lazarus genes, things like that, which are real about the stand. The archetypes zombies, but it's not at that level, but, but it is. Once you can get it to building blocks, there are cells that are zombie. Which ones? They don't need oxygen.

They don't need anything. You have to kill them with a blowtorch cells. It is coming to 1940s with a black lady. Whoa. One week. They can't kill the cells. They're still alive today. You put them on fresh flesh. They start replicating. So the globalists are all obsessed with this while we're watching football and basketball, and I get it. Yep. Yep. It's that boy. I'll tell you what, that's fun. There's zombie cells, buddy. Is he referencing the, uh, the one woman's genetic, uh, material that was, uh, Henrietta Lacks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She died of cancer on October 4th, 1951. Right. And she had

a, uh, very interesting mutation that made her cells immortal. And by that, it does not mean that there's some sort of immortality that can be granted by them. When you talk about cellular immortality, what that means is that it will constantly split. They'll always split more, as opposed to a lot of cells. They have this thing called, uh, senescence, which is a termination point of their splitting. They'll just keep splitting to a point. And that's when they, they, uh, they can no longer go through, uh, meiosis. I believe it's also an evanescence or mitosis. I believe it's, uh, not because it's not a sexual, uh, cell. It's not like a sperm or whatever. But, uh, so yeah, I mean, Alex is talking about a kind of real thing,

but at the same time he's really stupid about it. Explain to me, so, so they can't be killed except for with a blowtorch. Well, that's probably just from the living dad. There's so many other things that replicate a blowtorch. Yeah. Why a blowtorch specifically? Well, I don't, I don't know. I think that's just his fantasy, uh, you know, coming through. The, the thing is that these cells are like, uh, because they don't, uh, and like they don't stop

dividing or they, uh, they can't consistently, uh, be divided, uh, they're perfect for research. Yeah, of course. Uh, and so, uh, hey, spoiler alert, they were why Jonas Salk was able to make the polio vaccine. Right. Uh, you know, there's things like that from this fact that they took them and hid them without ever acknowledging that they were taken from her or giving her any kind of, uh, or her estate or anything like that. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah. That, that is a big issue there. No, it is, it is, but also, uh, they do make a decent, uh, I don't know if it's decent. I don't really, I don't really understand, uh, the rights issues enough. They took them after she was dead and it was like discarded tissue. And so there is an argument that has been made by these researchers and I believe it's held up in court that you don't have, uh, necessarily possession rights after your death of discarded material and it came from a tumor that would have been removed from her.

Yeah. That sort of thing. So it's, it's really, it's murky territory that I don't know how to unpack. I don't like it, but I also get it. All I understand from that is, uh, weird. Yeah. Weird. And Jonas Salk, all of the, all of the elements to that are like, huh.

For Alex's stupid bullshit about like, uh, they just want to create cures for themselves, not for us. Do you have polio asshole? He actually does. No, he doesn't. Yeah, he does. You think he does the show and he runs to an iron log? Oh, absolutely.

He's been in a wheelchair for six years. People don't know that. I've seen him stand up. Well, people saw FDR stand up too, Dan. That's a fair point. Yeah. That's a fair, fair, fair point. Is it a fair point?

Nope. That's why I said it three times. Um, like witches, witches, witches. The reality of these like immortal cells and the Lazarus cells and stuff like that are really interesting because there are, there are a couple of strains of them that they've been able to find, but they're literally nothing like Alex's. 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,960 Cause the telomeres don't break down or whatever it is along those lines.

It's just another, um, uh, brainless cow tanks kind of like, he relies on the. I want brainless cow tanks now. He's, he relies on the fact that his audience is not conversant in science at all and doesn't understand. Because they are absolutely not. No. And to a certain extent, I mean, maybe we're conversant, but not, not smart about it. We are the type of people who are conversant in science in so far as we know just enough

to get ourselves to say something stupid about it. You know, If you gave me a week, I could explain this fully, but I don't care too. We could research it and understand what we were researching to a point, but there would be no reason for us to explain it. No. So on Friday, Alex Jones lost his mind and screamed, but I used to speaking up Trump's dirty asshole.

Yeah. But does he address that? He doesn't. We covered that, but we failed to cover one thing. I believe, I don't think we talked about it, that Art Bell passed away. Yes. Art Bell did pass away. The, the OG from coast to coast AM.

Right. Complete weirdo. Crazy dude. But also made one of the most interesting radio shows ever to exist. I know you don't know much about coast to coast AM, but it was a big part of my love of AM talk radio growing up. Actually it was on FM in Columbia, but I loved the format of talk radio and one of the reasons was because of coast to coast AM.

Now granted, I've always been a more of a Joe Frank weirdo kind of guy. What does that mean? You don't know who Joe Frank is? No. He did a weirdo monologues. No, I'm not into it. He was very fascinated. Not into it.

Check out Joe Frank. I would be shocked by it. See what I liked about coast to coast AM was it had this brilliant, I don't know if it's brilliant, but it was a great structure wherein Art Bell or George Norrie would talk about something really crazy and stupid, often aliens, ghosts, that sort of shit. Right. Sometimes conspiracy stuff and then they just take calls and the callers would be as crazy, but they'd just be like, yep, you bet, you bet, you bet.

Right. Kind of thing. And it was this great. They were Kerry Callahan without the anti-Semitism. Yeah, not overt anyway. I'm not sure. I'm not sure because I mean, I don't, I hate George Norrie's politics and he's good friends with Alex Jones.

He's probably an anti-Semite. But I am sad that he's dead in as much as it's the passing of like a radio legend. Now granted, when we did that episode about that Project Camelot episode about Courtney Brown, the remote viewer. Yes. Art Bell was hosting when he allowed Courtney Brown to come on and precipitate the events that would lead to the, the Heaven's Gate. 9-11.

Belling themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not 9-11. Oh, not 9-11? Not Heaven's Gate. Never mind. And so like he had some fucking problems. Yeah.

He would, there are problems, but he is, he was a great broadcaster and resting piece. Wait a second. Courtney Brown precipitated the Heaven's Gate. We did a whole episode about that. I know, but I really don't understand that still. Courtney Brown remote viewed an object that was trailing the Hale-Bop Comet. And that's where that entire narrative came from. That's right.

Cause that, cause that, no, I forgot that that was whenever what's his face, his wife died and then he got all weird about it. The Heaven's Gate cult. Marshall Applewhite? Yeah. It wasn't his wife. That was his cult partner. All right.

Fine. But that was, whatever. Whatever. He's common law wife. The timing. Anyways, I'm sorry. I'm trying, I'm, I apologize to you for derailing that. So Art Bell, rest in peace.

Also, Harry Anderson died today. We miss him. Yeah. Uh, glad we still got bull. Yeah. Wait, is this bull dead? I was really sorry that Harry and the Henderson's died too. Come on.

Was that it? I'm not making a joke here. I did love Harry Anderson when I was younger. I loved the night court. It was a great show. Wait, Harry Anderson died? Yeah, he died today. From night court?

Yeah. Very sad. The judge. Really? He wasn't that old though, right? 60 something. Yeah. Yeah.

They, I don't know. I didn't look too deeply into it, but the article I read said, no foul play was suspected, probably a heart attack or something like that. Oh man. The night court reunion on, what was it, 30 rock or was it news radio? No, it wasn't on news radio. It wasn't on news radio. It was 30 rock, right?

Must have been. Yeah. So anyway, this has all just been a way of dancing around that Alex Jones brings up Art Bell in this next clip. Art Bell was one of the slickest, best talked show hosts when it came to just really being so focused and so professional. He was just a real talent, one of the greatest ever. And I even saw the media try to tie me to him in some way

to like just get my name in the news and attack him for us. I was never on Art Bell show. This is not the media. You know who tweeted about this? Alex's ex-wife Kelly. Kelly tweeted that Alex got his start or one of his early pushes was from Art Bell. Alex is literally responding to her tweet by pretending that she's the media. No one in the media reported that.

I've not seen any articles about that. I've literally only seen her tweet about that. So Alex, whenever he wants to lash out at things that Kelly's saying publicly about him. Says it's the media. He just says it's the media. Look at the media saying I was on Art Bell. Weird. I believe he actually probably wasn't on Art Bell

because the timeline doesn't quite match up. He was on coast to coast all the, not all the time, but he was on a bunch with George Norrie. Did he call Kelly the media in open court? No, but he called her the media the other day when he- That's true. That's right. When he said the media's reporting that I was on Sinclair stations.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was just Kelly again. And I mean, we see it throughout the rest of this clip. For whatever reason, Art Bell didn't like me. But you know what? I like Art Bell. Can't imagine why! Art Bell, the serious narrator of the American Nightscape is dead at 72.

And I'll cover the other guy for the next segment, but- See, if anything's in the news, the mainstream media attaches it like Sinclair, which is caught in fake news. Oh wow, regional news does that. Jones worked for Sinclair, didn't. Ha! Art Bell dies, tie me to it.

Make it somehow, I mean, it's like, and it's not that it hurts me. It actually makes the show bigger for us. Okay. You're just talking about like your feud with your wife, this, or ex-wife. This makes me very uncomfortable that I know what he's talking about. I can see through this.

This is not the media. These are specifically things that she has tweeted, and he's pretending it's the media. It's very, very fucked up what he's doing on air. Like, he's too much of a coward to just say, my wife, my ex-wife is saying stuff, and it's not true. Here's the truth, because it does seem like it is the truth that Art Bell wouldn't have him on his show.

Of course not. Because he knows, like, I- For whatever reason, every time somebody doesn't like him, he's probably like, for whatever reason, they think I'm a piece of shit. I can't imagine why. Let him have it. You know, that's my position on that. In this episode, we've seen Alex have kind of a weird back and forth with Trump.

You know, like, I'm still supporting him. He's probably corrupted or whatever. In this next clip, Alex says something that is a little bit, I mean, it's slightly familiar to us, but at the same time, it's like, if you think he's corrupted, you shouldn't want him to do this. If Trump doesn't move with the military, and I never want this, we're already under a globalist coup.

If he doesn't move to just remove all those people and have the indictments and have the tribunals, then there's no hope. And because we are overrun by a foreign globalist power, I appreciate your call. And I'm not calling for that at this point. You sound like you are. He'd sound alike if he doesn't do this.

Well, I mean, we're all going to die. I'm not calling for him to do this, but if he doesn't, we're all going to die. I mean, it's just, it's like no big deal if he doesn't, except we're all going to die. So that's tough. I'm not calling for it. That's a tough, weird line that he's walking.

I would never call for it. That's a very, very tough, weird line. The other thing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So, so Trump, Trump orders a military strike. And then Alex loses his fucking mind. And then he's like, well, I mean, obviously if he doesn't agree with what the military wants to do.

No, no, no, no, no. He wants Trump to use the military to take out Obama, Clinton. Like he wants him to use them, the military, to take out his perceived enemies. So his problem is he's just not, he's just not, Trump just didn't utilize the military in the correct direction. He didn't use it for an internal coup and power grab.

Instead, he used it in a way that might piss off my good friends in Russia. And that's what pisses him off. Okay. All right. That's not good. Do you know, generally speaking, when an elected leader decides that it's a good idea to use the military to remove his enemies? Usually. There's a word for that.

I am only taking literally every example of this occurring in the entirety of human history as my reference point. But it doesn't go well for everybody. I would say that I can think of zero examples of like, hey, everything calm down. Say, ah, that's what we needed. Well, Julius Caesar did it and everything worked out fine. Sure.

Let's see. Alex has called Trump a modern day Caesar. He said he's our Caesar. Chavez did it. Everything worked out fine. Great. Brazilian government did it for a long time. Everything worked out fine.

Countless African countries. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. They worked out great. Countless times. I mean, just even throughout Europe. I mean, let's just talk about where the word dynasty originated. Which is when women throw glasses of wine at each other. The more important thing is all of that is just queuing on shit.

Really? Yeah. The idea that Trump is going to have military tribunals. There's sealed indictments on all of these people already. All this stuff. It's all, I mean, we saw this play out with all those other weirdos on Twitter about like, at the beginning of the Mueller investigation. We saw all those bogus ass accounts coming out and saying like,

there is 170 sealed indictments. It's the same game being played just by the other side. Right. The other side ostensibly, but they're not really on any other side. Yeah. The queuing on people are on the side of chaos. Well, it's or nonsense even. It's not even chaos because it's not.

It's tricksterism. Yeah. It's interesting performance. They are on the side of Loki. It's possibly really interesting performance art, but it's doing a lot of damage. Right. Tends to happen from time to time.

So he wants the military to get involved and get some tribunals going because he's heard people talk about that online. Jerome Corsi keeps saying that's what's going to happen. Has a tribunal ever been a good thing? Mmm. Have you ever heard of, oh, that tribunal really worked things out for us? I was thinking of Desmond Tutu, but that was a commission. Yeah.

As a truth and reconciliation commission. No, I don't know about a tribunal. I'm not saying that some sort of larger democratic body is more effective or comes to better outcomes. You're totally wrong. Yeah. The show Survivor. Was there a tribunal?

I thought that's what they called it. Whenever they go to tribal council, they go to the... I thought a tribunal would just meant three. No, no, no. That's tri-partite negotiation. So just tribunal means... Yeah, whole tribe. Oh, yeah.

Somehow that is a massive blind spot in my... Did you think there was going to be a military tribunal? It's just three people? For real? Massive blind spot in my entire history. I think I've always just heard the prefix try and was like, well, I can stop there. There's a B after it.

Yeah, don't like that. Don't like that B. Yeah. So we have one more clip left. I prefer triunals. Alex expresses that Trump is probably still good, but he's been flipped, which doesn't work just from a logic standpoint. And then he says stuff that makes me uncomfortable.

I'll be honest. I'm mad at the American people, but I know they were born into all the Hollywood stuff. I like that. It's a really bad stuff going on on the planet. This country has been so screwed over. And our success that we've got left is so paper. And to see Trump now getting sucked into things that fundamentally he was against,

when just a week before Cohen got raided, he was against it, shows me they flipped him. We'll see if other stuff follows, but I'm really worried because they're not going to even let him limp along. They want to destroy a nationalist. They want to send a message. And there's nationalism and stuff popping up all over the world. That's the big positive. They want to send a message.

And I think they're going to try to take the president down. And just like Hillary and all of them said, once they get him out, they're going to really target everybody. And there's only so much people can take. There's only so much people can take. I mean, I'm not afraid of the globalist. I'm afraid of my response. And I'm not saying that too tough, but we built in force to counter these people.

And let me tell you something, there's only so much people are going to take. So that seems like I'm calling for open rebellion. There's, I mean, it's so close. Open rebellion against who? Also, at this fucking time, now, now, two years into this fucking bullshit, how can you possibly believe that Trump has any beliefs whatsoever? Other than Trump is great. I like Trump.

Trump does not even have thoughts anymore. It's just, hey, that guy said the same thing that I'm thinking, which is that Trump is great. I love Trump. What kind of fucking mental gymnastics does it take to imagine that that fucking guy has a belief system? Why? Why would you believe that?

How could you believe that? Because the entire history of his life was to cry that concept. Roger is very smooth. All right. He is pretty smooth. That's what you got to understand. He is pretty smooth. Alex really wants his approval.

I mean, think about it. Daddy issues, daddy issues. Think about it. Look at this, look at this whole thing. Like you got at the beginning of his presidency, he gets rid of the TPP. Now already he's like, we should probably go back on that. So that goes away. It makes my rich friends happy and my rich friends,

I want them to think I'm cool. Alex is like, hey, he's an anti-globalist. Six months ago, he said, I'm a globalist and a nationalist. But I'm a globalist. Yeah, but he was doing it because he's a nationalist globalist. Alex keeps pretending that he's taking out pedophile networks, but there's no evidence of it. And the stuff that we've gone over in the past is clearly

these sort of annual sting operations that happen. Right. That have existed for years around the month, the slavery and human trafficking awareness month. Yeah. Like it's not, it's opportunistic. Which is such a weird concept that only. I think you should focus on that every month.

Yeah, I know, right? Like why are we, hey, it's February, so we're going to solve human trafficking this month and then let it go for the, it's weird. It's a weird, weird, weird thing. Right, but every single one of his arguments is dismantled just by time existing. Yeah.

And like you go on long enough and Trump himself will invalidate those things. Of course. And now we. That's the only thing he believes in. And now we have this situation where Cohen's, his lawyer's office has been raided. And Alex even himself is like,

fuck, they probably got a lot on him. Oh yeah. Like he even is like, oh, shit. Well, he even said, I mean, yeah, he paid off seven or eight women. Sure. He's mobbed up. You can't run casinos without being mobbed up.

Probably done a shit ton of money. Well, no, no, no, you're missing the point. You're missing the point. So when we did that September, when we started in September of 2015 or August of 2015, we did the investigation and we found that the beginning of Alex Jones's narrative with Trump, the beginning of his ride with him was this guy owns casinos.

He's mobbed up. He is a front man for a consortium on the East coast. Right. If you, if your name is Genevies, you go to prison. If it's Trump, you don't, those sorts of things. Right. Like all of that, he's never not believed that this whole time. He knew that.

Yeah. He pretended that wasn't true because it went counter to all of his other narratives. Right. But the entire time he's known that was true. And the fact that Cohen got his, his office rated and there's obviously proof that's going to come out of a lot of this stuff. And Alex is piss scared about that.

He knows like now I cannot pretend that I didn't know that. I have to be like, I didn't know that, but who cares? It's no big deal. Right. Right. It is a big deal. Is a very big deal. Well, I mean, sure.

Some bad Republican backer paid 1.6 million to somebody, but who cares? Who cares? Sure. 130,000 dollars. Who cares? That's not even that much money. Right. Who cares?

There is a moment, I think it was on Sunday's show where he's like, look, they went after Clinton because of the sex, it related things, because that was relevant. But now this, and as he's saying the sentence, he can't get it out. Yeah. He can't get it out. Like he can't explain why this is somehow like, ah, shit. I just, I just don't understand why he didn't take the game.

Like he had the opportunity. And not only that, because he clearly knows that some shit is going to come out. And the writing is on the fucking wall. Well, here's why. Like imagine Alex coming out. I can't believe you don't get this already. No, I get it. But the point is like, if he came out now, then he's out in front.

And he gets to claim even more credibility because the Fox News fucks are going to get fucked over. Like they've been carrying water so hard for Trump, and Hannity is fucking, like they're all going to fucking be, but no, nothing's going to happen. They're all going to be fine. Fuck. This whole system is fucked. Here, I want to move to the woods.

Well, I always do. Who's got a bunker? Here's what you don't aren't taking into account, whether it's just forgetting about it or negligence or whatever. Russia's not done with Trump yet. And whatever situation exists between those entities, I have no fucking idea. And I think there are a lot of people who are probably making a much bigger deal out of the Russia-Trump connection that may or may not exist.

Right. And we talked about this pre-show, and I think it's really important that we bring this up on the show proper. We are very convinced. We're very clear that Alex Jones, whether it's because of, you know, some sort of compromising material, whether it's money, who knows. Well, it's one of those things. Or just fanboys.

Right. Or he was compromised by flattery, any of those things. He has some sort of allegiance to Russia that pre, it's more important to him than other things. Yes. And it predates Trump. Yes, it does, which we clearly discovered on our 2015 stuff. And I'm discovering from even further back.

Right. But the reason that he can waffle in all this is the same reason that Trump can say, I'm not going to enforce these sanctions on Russia. Right. It's that that is what's important to Alex. And whether it's because he is an intellectual purist and he actually believes that they're a nationalist country and that they're the hope of ending globalism or whatever.

Or if he knows that's bullshit and he knows that he's selling a line, that's what's going on. Yeah. That's why he can go back on it and be like, look, we need to, you know, and Trump might be, Trump might be flipping to the deep state, but we got to, we got to set this out because there's still, there's still, there's still blood to be taken from this stone as it were, you know, for all the parties involved.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. They have to, they have to see some sort of writing on the wall. There's got to be, look, all of the shit that's come out. There's got to be some sort of awareness that this is going to crash. Now, I suppose the only, the only thing that I would say if, if you're Russia and you have this investment going on, regardless of whether or not, and like you said, we talked about this pre-show, regardless of whether or not Trump is

aware of any collusion, collusion happened. Well, whether it's a propaganda collusion or a collusion collusion is an open question. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't, it's not, like I'm not necessarily saying that they all got into a room together and said, we're going to get Trump elected. It's more just a, perhaps just coinciding interests happening simultaneously. That's, that's possible. But it's, it's like the only result of this is that Trump goes down and the only reason

that Russia would still be involved is because they think Trump is going to take America down with him. Sure. That's the only thing that makes sense to me right now. And boy, that gamble is looking good. It's looking real good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

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It was tough to, to summon the energy to do this, but I'm glad we did. I know you did great. I'm glad we made it through. You're having some depression issues, which... A little bummed out. Yeah. I recognize and hope... It'll be fine.

I just need a good night's sleep. Yeah. I'm going to go get a slice of pizza after the show and maybe play a little Zelda and try and get my head right. That's a good idea. All of those things are great ideas. They are great. I feel like I've named the last two people or so.

I think it's your turn to end the show. Yeah. I'm going to have to go with the word tribunal. Go fuck yourself. That's not fair. That's petty. I'm just mad because somehow that has existed as a blind spot for... The word guy.

I love words. I'm a literature major. That's petty. And somehow the word tribunal has escaped my knowledge. That's, that's infuriating to me. I recognize that like... I am going to be pissed off for weeks because of this. I have to honor your wishes, but I do this under protest.

All right. All right. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.