Knowledge Fight - #152: April 18, 2018

Episode Date: April 20, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the events of April 18, 2018 on the Alex Jones Show. Most people were rightly very caught up in paying attention to how Alex was being sued by Sandy Hook families, bu...t they may have caught a couple of very important things, like a street artist accidentally admitting on air that he was a part of a smear campaign against a senator. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are Dan. Dan. What up player? Dan. What up player? What up player? Hey, this happened. How you doing? When did this happen? How you doing money? I'm somebody who lives in the present with my slang and Dan is somebody who knows a lot about not talking right. Oh, look, look, this podcast today, it's going to be off the chain. It's going to be off. It's going to be on fleek. No, it's going to be cool beans. You're getting worse. I know. Actually, I like cool beans. Um, so, uh, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't
Starting point is 00:00:48 know anything about Alex Jones and that's pretty much what's going on. We got some business to take care of before we get to the show. What's that? First of all, I think it, uh, is only right that we, uh, reannounced that we were going to be in Austin, Texas at beer land doing a live episode on June 15th. Do we know the time? Uh, probably between seven and 12. I would assume somewhere around there. Yeah. So, uh, I never asked. We could be, we could be going on at midnight. I have no idea. We will figure that out. Who knows for now. TBD. Yeah. Um, we'll be there. Uh, tickets. I don't think are available yet, but we will let you know as more details and, uh, all that stuff becomes available. But absolutely. It's a bit, it's a bit early. We're still in
Starting point is 00:01:31 April, but, uh, we booked it. We look forward to meeting all of our Texas peeps, uh, living down there in occupied Texas. Oh, of course. Um, also boy, I can't thank everybody enough who's donated to the show. And so we have to do a prolonged, uh, no, it's going long. Uh, we got it. We had a number of policy wonks to give a shout out to, uh, otherwise it's going to get way too backed up. Um, is it shouts out or is it shout out? I think it's shouts out. Like, uh, I think you might be right. And it was in chief. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Attorneys general. Exactly. Yes. There you go. Um, so first I'll give a shout out to a new, uh, policy wonk, someone who's been, uh, with the team for a long time. Very excited. Uh,
Starting point is 00:02:11 see them donating. Very excited. Thank you so much, Julia. I'm a policy wonk. Oh, thank you very much. Julia styles. We have loved you ever since the first born. Absolutely. I loved you in, um, uh, uh, save the last dance. That was great. Loved you in the born. Supremacy. No identity. She was in the identity and then she came back later in the supremacy. Okay. I don't remember which movies were which they were all the same. They all kind of, they all kind of blend together. Also like to give a shout out and a thank you to Andy. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much, Andy. Andy, where do you live? Andy, where are you from? Andy? Tell me right now. Okay. I also like to give a shout out to,
Starting point is 00:02:55 I apologize about this because it could be Nikki or Nishi. I'm not entirely sure it's N I C H I either way. No matter how you pronounce it, we appreciate you. You know how I pronounce your name? Policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Boo. Don't boo over the policy. I'm sorry. I've got to redo it now. You are hurt. Okay. Anyway, this is for you. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. What's wrong with you? I don't know. You said Polly. I, you're, uh, it's terrible. Some would argue that was smooth. I would, I would not. Um, we have a couple other people to give a shout out to donated, uh, and are now globalists. Oh shit. So I'd like to give a, another shout out to, and a thank you to you out there, Sam. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Sam Levine. I loved you. Sam the ma'am? Sam the ma'am Levine. Uh, little Logan. Very combative and angry, but at the same time, very generous. And we appreciate you joining up with the teams. Speaking of which, I found out that, uh, I'm working with Doug Benson on May 6th. He's going to be in downtown, uh, Zany. So that'll be fun. Super fun. We'll talk after the show. Give another shout out to one more globalist before we, uh, move along to the episode. Thank you so much, Michelle. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomight sent me
Starting point is 00:04:24 a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Anyway, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Michelle Williams. I love every single movie that you've ever been in. It's amazing. She's amazing. She's so good. So good. What was that one with? Was she in that one with Julia Stiles and Heath Ledger? What? That one, 10 things I hate about you. Is she in that one? I don't know. I don't remember. I feel like she's not. I don't remember. She's like a really good actress. She is great. I don't know a lot of movies. She was in a, uh, in a like, uh, dystopia film with, uh, Andrew Garfield, where they are, no, that's pretty dystopian though. Sure. Actually that's just our world being dystopian where a spider man is rebooted every other week. There's a grim, grim present.
Starting point is 00:05:06 No, it's, uh, it, they, they are, uh, uh, uh, like organ farms. Sure. So like a bunch of clones and shit gets, uh, birthed and their entire lives, they're just there to give away their organs. It's brutal. Okay. It's, it's kind of a bad movie, but I loved it. Great. It's very good. Thrilled to hear it. Tell duck about it. I hear he loved it. All right. All right, dad. I'm trying to relate to you on a human level. This isn't the way Well, you know what I'd name you asshole. Well, one of the ways to relate to me on a human level is if you'd like to donate to the show. Now that was smooth. You could do so by going to our website knowledge fight.com and clicking support the show. We really appreciate it so much. The chat room is
Starting point is 00:05:51 saying that movie was called the island. No, that's not that movie. Okay. It's like, uh, it's like, it's some long ass fucking name. Let's not deal with it. Not important. Sorry. I re-broad it up. Yeah. Um, you can donate. If you'd like to, we really appreciate it. And I can't thank everybody who's donated enough. Uh, we're really making strides. We're almost at the point where this is a viable life, uh, for me in terms of the nine to five job. And I'm starting to realize that I hate to do so much business up top before we get to the actual show, but I realized that we just crossed our original goal that we set back when we started accepting donations, a goal that I thought we would never reach. Yeah. Uh, because I thought no one
Starting point is 00:06:29 was ever going to donate to this show. I thought it was absurd. Exactly. But we set that goal and the reward for reaching that goal was that we were going to do a breakdown of one of Alex's documentaries, which we've already done. Right. So we can't do that to reward people because we already did it. No, you could finish the fucking bracket. Oh boy, I could do that. Yeah. All right, we'll work on that. Okay. But the other thing is if we, um, we're very close to reaching another goal or like, uh, you know, maybe 75% of the way to another goal and the reward for that goal was we would do a live show in Chicago, which we've already done. And now we're doing one in Austin also. We are really bad at rewarding people based on, uh, hard limits. We just do the things that
Starting point is 00:07:14 we say we're going to hold off on. Yeah. And don't tell you that it didn't like, we did not tell you that we reached the goal. No. So we need to come up with some new things. If you have any ideas, any suggestions of things you'd like to see as rewards for us reaching milestones and stuff like that. Um, I would, I'd be very open to input. So please, if you'd like to tweet those at us or reach out to us at our group, uh, go home and tell your mother you're brilliant right in, uh, in on Facebook. If we reach another, what, I would say another $2,000 in donations. We will totally do a show in Sweden. We're nowhere near that. We will totally do a show for you. We're nowhere near that nowhere near that. Um, yeah, we'd go to Sweden. Sure. Fuck it. Yeah. For that kind of money,
Starting point is 00:07:57 I'd go to Sweden tomorrow or our Finland listeners. Oh yeah. Um, we'd go to, uh, all of Lapland, but only there. Yes. Yeah. We won't go to any of those other countries. Yeah. Um, I don't know. Uh, I don't know. Let us know. All right. On to today's show. So Jordan, we're recording this on Thursday, April 19th. Um, and today, Owen Schreyer hosted the show. So nothing to do with that show. So, uh, we're going to be going over Thursday or I'm sorry, Wednesday's show April 18th. Um, and this is the day after the news breaks that Alex Jones, uh, has been sued by Sandy Hook families. Of course. Um, so he's in a strange mood. I don't want to talk too much about that, although it will come up at the end of the episode. So don't think we're ignoring that.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Uh-huh. He teases that he's going to give a statement on it and he's going to talk about it. He said he's going to give up the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Does not say so. In, in classic Alex fashion, he will not. Does not say so help me God though. Note that. Well, he doesn't need God's help to give the truth, Dan. Certainly not. Um, but he teases it real hard and only gets to it at the end of the episode. So we'll deal with that along the way. Uh, when we get there, there's a lot of stuff going on in this episode that everyone just sort of glossed over because they wanted to, uh, you know, do a little dance about, uh, about, uh, the Sandy Hook stuff. There's, there's some shocking revelations,
Starting point is 00:09:22 that have been missed and we will be discussing a number of them. Who would have guessed shocking revelations were missed because people do not listen to the entire show, Dan. Nope. No one understands why you do, but thank God. I don't even. Um, so in this, in this first clip where we're going to start, Alex Jones has some choice words to say about James Comey. Almost. No. Former director of the FBI. Gotcha. James. I keep trying to come up with a middle name. I don't know what his middle name is. Captain of Battlestar Galactica. Super thrilled to see those pictures of him hanging out with Method Man and Ghostface on, uh, on Twitter. Weird. Weird. And then I was very weird. Makes me uncomfortable in so many ways.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Very disappointed to find out who was backstage at a talk show. Yeah. I was hoping it was just the two, they just hang out like in coffee and cigarettes with Bill Murray just shows up and the RZA and the jizz are hanging out. 100%. Okay. That's what I was hoping for. And I was very, very hurt. Ghost busting Bill Murray. Well, the, the, like the idea of like, if you went back to like the early nineties and you're like, you know, the 36 chambers had just come out and you're like, you know what? In about 25, 27 years, you were going to be hanging out backstage at a talk show with the former director of the federal bureau of investigations. And it's going to be cool. Yeah. They're going to be no reason. They're going to be smiling. Truly we are in the darkest
Starting point is 00:10:41 timeline. Yeah. It's so weird. So anyway, Alex talks some shit about Jim Comey, but there's something really interesting that you need to, you need to track in here. And that is that he is aware that like, boy, people keep suing me. I mean, he just radiates. I'm a criminal. He radiates. I'm disingenuous. He radiates. I'm a pervert. In my view, Comey looks like a child molester. Okay. All right. Go ahead and sue me. I didn't say you're a child molester. I said, you look like a child molester to me. I wouldn't let you near my kids. Okay. Now you say Trump. You don't know. Maybe Trump's gets pissed on by women. I say Trump. He's no proof. He said, maybe he does.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So now here's the difference between those two things. I just think it's very important to point out. First of all, I love the like, the being like super self aware about like, now I am watching every single thing I say for whether or not I will be sued, but I'm going to pretend like I don't even care about it. I have to be very clear that I said that I think you look like this thing. Right. Right. Right. I know the law. But then the other thing, the reason that I paused here is that he's like, you come out and you say maybe Trump got pissed on. Maybe he didn't or whatever. When he, when Comey was being interviewed and talking about that, like the reason he said that is because he did an investigation. It was inconclusive and he was
Starting point is 00:12:02 asked about it. Yeah. No, no, it's like, I mean, Hey, I worked with Trump totally could have happened, but he couldn't prove it though. If he's asked by a late night talk show host or George Stephanopoulos about it, he can't say, of course he did. He can't say, no, he also probably can't do the like, I can neither confirm or deny that sort of boilerplate language bullshit though. Everybody would be disappointed and pissed off about that. Exactly. You wish everybody, look, I want him to go away period. This is, he is the worst. Fuck the head of the FBI. Fuck the former head of the FBI. Fuck the FBI period. Fine. But that's not, that's not the point here. I'm sorry. The point is that he answered a question in the way that's appropriate for him to answer because he did an investigation
Starting point is 00:12:49 into whether or not this tape was real and he said, I don't know. Right. I don't know. He doesn't know. Alex has not done an investigation into whether James Comey does or does not look like a pedophile. No one asked him his thoughts on the matter. It's just a complete, it's a very bad equivalence that he's making. A little bit. So, Comey, maybe you have sex with little kids. I'm not saying you do. It's not defamation. I'm saying maybe you do. Maybe you're a Martian from Pluto. You say this, you say what? The media wants to take your gloves off. Let's do it. Let's get in the arena, Jack. I'm here to ram heads with you. I'm here to take you down. Liberty or death. Victory or death. No surrender. We all can remember back in April of last year when he was being sued
Starting point is 00:13:38 by Hamdi Ulakaya of Chobani Yoga. Victory or death. I will fight this till my dying days. On this, I will stand. This is the hill I shall die on. I apologize, by the way. Two days later, public apology. Legally, I apologize. 100%. It turns out they wanted a lot of money and I'm totally gonna apologize. Oh, it turns out I forgot what I said. Oh, Jesus. I committed defamation. Whoa. Also, I think you're pushing the envelope of like what you should do when you're in Alex Jones in that last bit of it when he's like, maybe you have sex with children. Like, who knows? Who knows? I mean, that is defensible in so far as maybe everybody does or does not have sex with children, but they don't. Also, Komi is like 6'6". He's super tall. His reach
Starting point is 00:14:36 is too far for Alex. There's no way. Alex is out of shape. Komi probably exercises no chance. I bet Method Man and Ghost Hates are trying to enlist him for a pickup basketball game. I do not think they would. You need a big man in the center. He's huge. No, you don't. Basketball has changed. Now it's all about wings, man. It's all about 3 and D, you guys. You gotta raise up your 3%. I'm living back in the 90s. Yeah, I know. Back when I watched. Basketball has grown from there. Now, right. It's all about analytics now, Dan. Appearing from the chat room, he's 6'8", which is not that big for a basketball player. That's crazy tall. It's not big for a basketball player. Yeah, well, you know. My premise is out
Starting point is 00:15:13 the window. What's his wisdom? I get it. You guys come from a bunch of cowardly scum. I don't. To me, it's not even courage. It's my genetics. Victory or death. Victory or death. You understand? I get it. Victory or death. So, the left is all on their ramming speed right now. Ramming speed. They're going all out. Well, good. You're finally gonna man up a little bit. We stood up to you finally and you ran a terrorist coming to an end, and you're finally gonna have to get out in the open and lose some skin in the game. I've already lost a lot of skin, Jack. I'm ready to lose all my skin and all my treasure and the whole thing because my house, house Jones doesn't have a future if we don't beat you.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So, my whole house is in. You should ask your house. And your houses are in now too, and you know it, don't you? So, we'll see whose houses House Soros or House Jones has victory at the end of this because I know how history works. Do you? My destruction is the seeds of your sure destruction. Fools. Fools. I think he's talking about Star Wars. Is he doing Star Wars? Yeah. I feel like he's doing Star Wars. That's not history. No. No. No. I'm afraid not. You strike me down. I become a symbol. Yeah, you don't, Alex. If you, if you get struck down, everybody's like one, everybody like us is like, eh, well, I guess we got to move on or two. Everybody's like, who? Why? I mean, what an asshole. But you know what? Like, I mean, if he does,
Starting point is 00:16:54 like, let's say someone kills him or something like that, which I think would be terrible. But like, if, if someone, yeah, I would, it would, it would always be bad. But I think that if it did happen, I'd be like, boy, I kind of get why that happened. I think it's a shame. I certainly am not for it, but I would look at it and be like, these are kind of the consequences of this incredibly bigoted, violent rhetoric that he puts out into the world. You're going to end up getting people so activated in a certain way, in a negative way that I see how that happens. Yeah. If you want to go, if you want to go with the house metaphor, Alex, the, the house of Jones getting taken down is not the red wedding. The house of Jones getting taken down as the Lannisters
Starting point is 00:17:37 getting murdered. It's interesting. Everybody's kind of cool with that. It's interesting that you bring that up because in this episode, Alex Jones straight up steals the Game of Thrones theme song and uses it for a clip video. Okay. Listen to this. It is a big idea, a new world order. How is it that this organization is so well funded, so organized? Lannix state linked militants have gained a stronger foothold in Libya. So that goes on for like, whether watch Game of Thrones. I don't know that goes on like two and a half, three minutes. It's the entire Game of Thrones theme song. I don't think that falls under fair use. I think that that probably is illegal. Yeah. No, I'm probably going to go with that. Did they secure the rights for that? If any of
Starting point is 00:18:19 our listeners want to tweet at the composer of that Game of Thrones theme and see if he is interested in. Oh, he's totally got to sell a cease and desist order there. Yeah. Telling him to stop. Go ahead and do that. He seems like a cool guy. He also worked on the Blade Trinity soundtrack. With the RZA. It's full circle, man. It is. It's all around that. I forget that no one was listening to our pre-show conversation about Blade Trinity. Anyway, this next clip, Alex talks about how fucking, how cool he is. Also, if you are listening, just kind of imagine our pre-show conversations always being about Blade Trinity. That's basically what we talked about. There's a lot of ground to cover. There's a lot. There's a lot going on. Anyway, this next clip, Alex Jones,
Starting point is 00:19:04 first of all, he's a thrifty dude. And second of all, he has integrity with money. We have record all-time highest traffic to infowars.com and newswars.com right now. And yes, it takes a lot to fight these lawsuits, but I'm not selling a wide-body $50 million jet like Glenn Beck is. I fly a lot of the time in coach. What? A lot of the time? When it's some long trip or something, I'm not spending $6,000, $7,000 to fly first class to places like Europe. I'm in coach, baby. Now, I'm sure I could pay and be in first class, but then I wouldn't have the money to build this operation. I mean, I am interested. I wouldn't have the money to fight the globalist attacks. I am a war machine against the globalist. I am here
Starting point is 00:19:48 committed to go all the way to the end. I want to make that clear. Don't let them make you think I'm losing by all these attacks. We're winning and they know it and they're pissed. Nope. I really don't think so. Also, also wasn't the reign of terror almost over and at the same time, he's never mind. Also, guys are terrible. He's not, he's not good at this. When you think of war machine, you think about that ultimate fighter who beat the shit out of his girlfriend because he thought he was cheating on her that, uh, that, uh, that, uh, porn actress left her just completely brutalized. I was thinking, I was thinking of the Avengers, but Oh, I guess yours is way more years is way worse. Well, I think that's the most recent. I don't
Starting point is 00:20:29 think war machine is relevant in the MCU. Is he? Yeah. Absolutely. In, in a civil war, he got paralyzed for like 20, 25 seconds and then immediately he was saved by Stark technology or whatever. I don't watch nerd movies. They're very, they're very low stakes in the MCU nerd. Anyway, uh, the other thing, the other thing is, uh, Alex, how many boats do you own? How much of that money is coming from the operation? How much could you save? Well, he, he flies with those boats and coach. Come on, man. He's not going to, he's not going to fly first class for his boats. Can you imagine how bad that would be if you're just trying to take a flight? Here comes Alex with one of his boats
Starting point is 00:21:08 coming down the aisle. Oh, you don't even have the windows. Not fitting that in the overhead compartment. Ridiculous. So can you imagine sitting right next to Alex Jones on like a united flight? Yeah, I can. Especially. Oh, no. If you're on Southwest where everybody lines up, there's no way he's lining up at his right ticket number. No, he's fucking going right ahead. Yeah. He's going to claim that he's a paraplegic. If I was sitting next to him on a flight, I'd pretend I was a globalist. I would do, I'd fuck with him because we've seen how susceptible he is. You know, we're coming for you. Alex, so glad you're here. Yeah, I gotta tell you something. I'm half sheet. Alex, Alex, I was born in one of the proto-cow tanks. You know what,
Starting point is 00:21:53 though? I actually could fuck with him because I've talked about this before on the air. He's an easy lay. Well, maybe, not like that. All right. My dad has an interesting like parallel to Barack Obama throughout some of his education and early life. Insofar as he wasn't an American citizen when he got elected. No, not that part. Call Larry Nichols about that. Okay. My dad was at Harvard at the same time that Barack Obama was there. Cool. And then my dad was at the East West Center, which is a research organization that he went to right after he got his doctorate. He went, it's in Honolulu, Hawaii. Which, by the way, pick a side. What do you mean? I mean, are you gonna, are you East or you West? Oh, no, it's about merging the East and West in terms
Starting point is 00:22:43 of study and cultural study and stuff like that. But anyway, Obama was associated with East West Center and Alex brings that up as a conspiracy. I've been there many times in my early life. I could just get on a plane and be like, look, my dad is deeply involved on this level. Yeah, you could fucking crush it. He knew Obama back in college. Look at the records. I could do something like that. It would be fun. It would be really fun if I was stuck on a plane. I could really fuck with his head. Yeah. But if you were just a guy, fuck that. He would suck to be on a plane with. I gotta be. Well, not if you know how to play the game. Right. But that's what I'm saying. Have sheep or new conspiracy. That's the only way you play it on that plane.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Have sheep or new conspiracies. A lot of people say that in a lot of different situations in life. Yeah. I'm getting tired of hearing it. That's ever green. If I had a dollar for every time. Oh, every time it's like half sheep or I don't even know anymore. So in this next clip, we deal with some of recent events that have made people a little bit mad and rightfully so. Oh, Hungary. In the West, in the U S and in Europe, they then get all the big corporate CEOs to a man and woman who almost pay no taxes or multinational international diplomatic community to further create white guilt and exacerbate tensions. And then if it happens that you have obviously a black activist, leftist activists come in, they won't buy anything. They want to use
Starting point is 00:24:07 the bathroom. They sit there in the restaurant. You have a policy that you can't do that. What restaurant wouldn't throw you out of? He just came and said, I'm gonna sit here. No, I don't want to be seated. I just want to sit here. They said, what are yours? You have a flat tire or something or somebody coming to get you? No, I'm just going to sit here. Well, sorry, policy. You can't you least got to buy some coffee. You know, you got to do something to be in here. Like somebody walks in your tire shop and says, I'm just gonna sit here and drink your coffee. You're like, no, get out. No loitering. No loitering. Sure. So Alex earlier in the show, I did the official position of info wars is bathrooms are for customers only. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Buy a pack of gum. There's a clip earlier in the show that I didn't cut because it was sort of it got muddy and he started yelling a bunch about Charlton Heston being on the right side of civil rights. I was like, I don't want to deal with this. Never happened. But he thinks that those two gentlemen who got arrested at Starbucks, yeah, publicity stunt. Yeah, I'll read to you from this article. Rashaan Nelson initially brushed it off when a Starbucks manager told him he couldn't use the restroom because he wasn't a paying customer. He thought nothing of it when he and his childhood friend and business partner Dante Robinson were approached at their table and were asked if they needed help. The 23 year old entrepreneurs declined explaining that they
Starting point is 00:25:20 were just waiting for a business meeting. A few minutes later, they started noticing. They hardly noticed when the police came into the coffee shop and tell official officers started walking in their direction. Quote, that's when we knew she called the police on us. Nelson told the Associated Press in their first interview by the two black men since video of their April 12th trespassing arrest touched off a furor in the United States over racial profiling or it has been dubbed retail racism or shopping well black. Nelson and Robinson were led away in handcuffs from the shop in the city's well to do written house square neighborhood in an incident recorded on white customer cell phones. In the week since the men have met with the Starbucks apologetic CEO and have started
Starting point is 00:25:57 pushing for lasting change in the coffee shop chain, including new policies on discrimination and ejecting customers. Quote, we do want to make sure it doesn't happen to anybody again, Robinson said. What if it wasn't us sitting there? What if it was a kid that didn't know somebody that knew somebody? Do they make it to jail? Do they die? What happens? On Thursday, they also got an apology from the Philadelphia police commissioner, Richard Ross, a black man who at first staunchly defended his officers handling of the encounter. Quote, I should have said that the officers acted within the scope of the law and not that they didn't do anything wrong, Ross said. Words are very important. At a press conference a so all right. Well, no, at the press conference,
Starting point is 00:26:37 a somber Ross said he quote failed miserably in addressing the arrests. He said that the issue of race was not lost on him and he shouldn't be the shouldn't be the person making things worse. Shame on me. If in any way I've done that, he said that you got to realize is I guess contrition is nice. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I don't know, man. But what you got to understand is this isn't a publicity stunt. These two dudes ended up spending about 12 hours in prison. What? They didn't get out until midnight. Wait, what? They did. They were held in prison until midnight, and they only got out because the district attorney declined to prosecute them. Like this is a it's all right. This is all right. This is a really fucked up thing. They were doing
Starting point is 00:27:17 great America. They made this work guys. They made them sit in a cell to the point where one of them was specifically went on record and said, I don't think I'm going to make it out. I don't think I'm going to survive this holding. It's incredibly fucked up. And the idea that Alex is just dismissing it is like, Oh, these are just black activists. You know, by publicity stunt. What? Yeah, what's crazy? I mean, fucking come on. If you were white, they would have said, Hey, go away. Even if the cops were called, the cops would have been like, Okay, now you have left Starbucks. So go home. I can't use something else. I can't count the number of times that I've gone into Starbucks use the bathroom and left. I can't count the number of times I've been to my therapist's
Starting point is 00:28:06 office too early. There's a Starbucks down the street. I sit there for like 15 minutes. No one bothers me. I don't buy anything on my phone. Use the Wi Fi doesn't fucking matter. I also should tell you I used to manage a Starbucks right now about their corporate policies. Right. So that comes into play a little bit into this next clip. Do you have a card or something that allows you to be part of any like any Starbucks you ever want to go to you just flash this little like I can always use the bathroom card. No, I quit unceremoniously. If anything, they should be barring me. They should call the police when I show up based on the can't come in to manage the store tomorrow. Got a better job. Gotta go. So one of the reasons Alex is talking about Starbucks is in
Starting point is 00:28:54 response to this uproar about this incident that is legitimately fucked up. No, it's gigantic racism on a mass scale that is just right in the public eye. What we're in 2018. Imagine how long we've been going through this shit. Yeah. And the it's all it's all of the time. It's all of the time in America. Two black men cannot do anything without being at a 60% risk of having the cops called on it. Well, but it's insane. What we come down to and Alex is manifesting it in that last clip is this trend that dumb people have. It's not dumb. It's people with unexamined bigotry and bias in them. And even otherwise known as bigotry and bias. Well, but I think we all have some sort of bigotry that we try and work against. The problem is when it's unexamined and when you just allow it
Starting point is 00:29:53 to exist unchecked. And that's what Alex is manifesting. And what it does is it criminalizes black behavior that you would forgive and look the other way when white people do it. And a lot of people, I would say, don't recognize that that is something they do. It's very threatening to your identity to think that you do it. And it's a mess. It's a complete mess. It's disgraceful. Yeah. Well, no other comment. What is it? 60% of white people support Trump. So fuck off. That's it. No, I think it's actually I think it's actually closer to like 80%. No, it's not. I think it's not that high. You're talking about that stat that just came out about evangelical Christians. Oh, yeah, that was that was like every evangelical Christian alive now. I think it was like mid 70s
Starting point is 00:30:40 support for him in evangelical communities and like 30s for the general public. It's a fucking unreal. So that event happened at Starbucks and Starbucks announced that they were going to do some clothes every store for you, which is good. I don't know if it'll work, but God bless them for trying something. Are they going to then research some way to give those guys 12 hours of their life back? I think from what I've seen, I'm very glad that it ended as decently as it did. Yeah. It's entirely possible. They could have been murdered by the cops. That's a totally legitimate fear. That's a totally legitimate fear. I went to Starbucks to have a business meeting and then I was murdered by the fucking cops. There was a
Starting point is 00:31:35 fucking 6040 chance that that was going to happen. 6040 seems high, but it's a real possibility. It's fucked up. Yeah. It's a mess. So it is good to address these issues. I don't know if corporations are best. No, answer is no. No, of course not. Because you've had jobs before and they've had the videos you have to watch about harassment and stuff like that. No one really takes it seriously and all that shit. So, you know, I don't know if it's going to be effective, but be that as it may. That happened. There was an uproar about it and then some guy made a video. I don't like the some guy made a video comment coming from you. I think it's actually kind of funny. There's this guy and he made a video of him going into Starbucks and I haven't watched
Starting point is 00:32:22 the rest of his videos. He might be a total asshole. I have no idea. But it seems to me, this guy, because I watched the video in question and it's him and he's like, I'm about to go into this Starbucks and get my reparations coffee. I'm going to go get my free coffee. I like it. And so he goes in. I'm a big fan. So he goes in and he's like, Hey, I heard y'all are racists. I want a free coffee. And the person behind the counter is like, Oh, I heard that story. That is really fucked up. Yeah. I'll give you a coffee. So that is all right now. I just, I will that's the video. Alex is going to set it up. And then again, as someone who has managed a Starbucks, I have some things to say on the other end of this game. Okay. Okay. So this fellow,
Starting point is 00:33:04 it's up on info wars.com. It's there. There it is. Ho-Tep Jesus at vibe high to get him on the show. Natural ally of those into the Starbucks. Bob was in response to the news that Starbucks is set to close 8,000 stores for an afternoon for race based training. And also have an article here that the type of race based training they're doing implicit association test. The professors that developed it said it's a fraud and doesn't work. So again, it's all about creating white guilt. And so he walks in and talks to this young woman working, going to college at the same time. And she says, Oh, I heard about that about the racism Starbucks. Yes. Here's your free coffee. So let's go ahead and roll that video.
Starting point is 00:34:05 He's mugging to the camera and like having a great time. Of course. And the two, why wouldn't you? He goes in and he gets the coffee and the two of them, like him and the person who's working there have a really nice conversation and it ends up being like, Yeah, you know, this is actually my last shift before I end up going back to school. We've got finals and stuff. He's like, Oh, I hope you have a good time with that. Best of luck with that. You're very nice because the stunt didn't quite work because I don't think that I honestly think that that guy was trying to make a comedy video and the person behind the counter was super nice. And he's like, I'm not going to beat her up. I think that I think the plan was, was actually to,
Starting point is 00:34:41 to make a whole mess of things and be like, I deserve it. You know, that whole thing and then when it comes back, it's unclear exactly. But here's what I know based on being someone who used to manage a Starbucks. If Starbucks had set, okay, change the game. We're not closing 8,000 stores for race bias training. Every black person gets free coffee for a day. That's a whole weirder situation. I think I prefer that. It's like, when it's like, when Taco Bell gives you a free taco for Taco Tuesday or whatever, whatever. It's a little different taco day. I mean, it's a little bit different, but I'd be fine with it. Well, see, here's the thing. Starbucks, they make their coffee and then every about two hours,
Starting point is 00:35:27 you got to flip it. And so they end up with tons of coffee that they don't end up selling. The company is keenly aware of that and wants to nurture the image of being a friendly establishment. So generally speaking, managers are trained and to, to encourage customers or their, their employees to give coffee to homeless people that come in, because they know it's just going down the drain anyway. And if you can create this sort of place where people feel safe, feel cared for, that sort of thing, you get much more mileage out of that than the coffee you're going to throw away, because it's not fresh anymore. You would always be giving coffee to people who come in, but that doesn't address this piece. The other pieces, they know they're throwing away the coffee
Starting point is 00:36:13 and they know that these people are close to minimum wage, low play, low paid employees. They don't want to fight. So if anyone comes in and is like, I demand X, Y or Z, you just give it to them. Right. Because that's how it works in the service industry. Generally speaking, when there's no loss for the company and, oh, what do you want your employee to get into a fight with this guy who's clearly videotaping? Right. Whatever. It's, it's absolutely protocol for you to just be like, here you go. Wow. It's like how now if you shoplift employees are trained to be like, get on out of here. Let them go. Yeah. It's not worth it. What are we doing? It's not worth it to argue. It's not worth it to try and chase down somebody trying to steal something that's insured
Starting point is 00:36:55 anyway or isn't a loss to the business. Right. Unless you're Orlando Jones in the replacements. Sure. I don't remember that movie. It's great. So anyway, I watch it at least three times a year. There's a few, there's a few things that I can take away from this clip. Really anti-union movie, which is strange. Yeah. Is it? Yeah. It's super anti-union. If you analyze what's going on inside that movie, it's purely anti-union and pro ownership. It's bananas. It's like every, it's every argument that you've ever heard somebody make where it's like, oh, these baseball players are overpaying. You're like, no, if, if, if they didn't get the money, it's going more towards billionaires. Yeah. There's all that money. Give them the money. They're the
Starting point is 00:37:38 ones who are making all the good stuff. Sure. Anyways, there's a, there's a, I'm sorry. I don't need that. I could talk about replace the replacements for so long. It's insane. That will replace Blade Trinity in the next pre-show. So the thing, the thing here too is that a little bit later, Alex does say something to the effect of if black people aren't happy here, they should go to Africa. No, no. A lot of people, a lot of people. But the people that we know in Africa are like where white people should leave. Yeah. That is a murky territory for him. Very strange. Yeah. A lot of people have been posting clips about that and I've seen it posted and like, oh, this is super racist and like Alex Jones has tons of racist things. I think that this one is,
Starting point is 00:38:21 I don't think we've ever documented any hundreds of them, but I think this one is actually slightly unfair because I think people are taking him a little bit out of context because he's not saying go back to Africa or anything like that. What are you saying? Isn't okay, but what he means by it and what isn't being captured by the people who are critiquing it is what he's saying is you should look at what's going on over there and be like, oh, it's good over here. It's still bad. Which is an even worse non-argument. It's still bad. It's not worse. It's still bad, but it's not the same thing as like you don't like it here, get out. I don't know. I think it might be worse. How? I think that argument is fucking insane because you can use that for literally
Starting point is 00:39:06 anything. Like, oh, you care about human trafficking? Look at human trafficking elsewhere. Be happy with the status quo wherever you're at. That is a really offensive argument to any human being. It is offensive and it only leans in towards complacency to a certain extent, but I don't think it's as bad as... It's like whenever people are like, oh, you think there's no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans, the Democrats say that we should be incrementally better in some respects and then support the status quo in every other way and then capitulate on every other thing. You may be right. You may be right. I don't know. It's interesting. The outright white nationalism of you don't like it, get out versus the stop your complaining
Starting point is 00:39:58 is worse elsewhere. I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting point. I don't know how to unpack that really. They're both bad. I guess that's the bottom line. I think that's where we land. Yeah. So don't say either of those things, dumbass. They're not great. Speaking of not great, we got a new guest in the house. Great transition. We have a new guest. Okay. This guy is a street artist. Are you excited? Hotap Jesus? No. All right. He's a guy named Sebo. Sebo. That's it. Yep. All right. I like the one word name. Alex fancies him a conservative Banksy. That doesn't happen. So makes sense. Anything. What you really have going on here is a guy who used to and still does post a bunch of like pro Trump street art and he on I went to his website
Starting point is 00:40:50 and I checked it out. What does that even look like? Just weird photoshopped things of like Trump being awesome and giving them bird to people and weird like Hillary Clinton with a bunch of prison tats and saggy boobs. I really feel like that's more ironic than anything else. That is only funnier when you realize that he means it. It's straight up propaganda just in a different medium. It's all just Trump. But it's a complete backfire. Like if you saw a Trump if you saw a street art with Trump giving you the finger you'd be like yeah fuck that guy. You wouldn't be like no look at how great he is. I'm not sure I'd be like that. I wouldn't be like fuck that guy. I'd be like this feels familiar. But did he put that up? Yeah. The thing that I think is really fucking funny
Starting point is 00:41:40 is that this guy's sort of motto or ethos is conservatism is the new punk and he's very clear that what he means by conservatism is this new Trump know nothingy nativist white nationalism. Yes it's that sort of version of conservatism and yeah what is this the 80s again? And it's all backing up Trump right? So I would say the conservatism it's backing up Trump poorly. Conservatism being punk would make sense if back in the late 70s okay the sex pistols all of their songs were just about the DuPont family. Okay now awesome they were. Either that or like why did we get rid of Nixon? He was great. We all remember all of those great classics by the Ramones about Howard Hughes how he should be president. You know what was amazing about the Velvet
Starting point is 00:42:35 Underground love the war on Iraq. Yeah crazy. So this guy is a mess but you should expect that here in this first clip we hear of him we find out some of the company he keeps. Okay. You know I was recently in Austin with the Proud Boys and three bars asked us to leave. They said we don't want your type here and I couldn't help but wonder what the hell type of you talking about. The left has gone into it just a hysterical authoritarianism. Yeah. Sure. Sure. You don't want the Proud Boys in your bar. I know by the way the corporate CEO thing that he mentioned earlier like he what he was talking about was the tax repatriation I assume maybe that is entirely facilitated by Trump's tax plan. Yeah. That's his entire goal there to imagine that it's
Starting point is 00:43:30 some sort of globalist plot is insane. It's ridiculous. It's out and out trying to change reality into something that fits within your narrative. Now I know this is an unusual for Alex Jones. I know this is an unusual for what we're talking about here. No. But within the context of this clip it's even more egregious. This is fucking stupid. I think the Proud Boys should be banned from every fucking business that there's ever been. There should be look if Starbucks closes 8000 stores for racial bias training they should also close 8000 stores to teach people about the Proud Boys and how to throw them out to get rid of them. Yeah. Yeah. Just keep yelling serial names at them. They'll get really excited. They'll be impressed that you
Starting point is 00:44:17 can name serials. That's it. Well everybody is. Yeah. Here from the chat room that the dead Kennedys wrote California Uber Alice about Jerry Brown being eventually. What's this being. Who cares. All right. I shouldn't read the chat room. Good work. I was going to try and pivot that into something about your transition skills failed you Dan. Yeah. I was going to try and work that into another punk band writing a song about Lee Iacocca just because his name came to me randomly. All right. But be that. Nope. Not saying be that as it may not going to do it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure priests didn't write a song about how great Trump was. There you go. Yeah. So Sebo throughout this entire thing Alex is like street art. Love it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Love story does. He's like we got to get an info wars art thing going. You Ben Garrison let's do this. So he's trying to now make a info. Not going to lie. I would go to an info wars street gallery. It's not going to happen. This is going to go down much like the Patriot music record label. Alex was going to start years ago. So he but Alex has to walk this. He has to walk this weird line because vandalism is illegal. You know like doing these street art things that these installations that Sebo does it's technically illegal. Now I'm no narc. I don't give a shit what he does. I'm fine with it. I think he's stupid. But I don't care on the legal aspect. But Alex and probably working at cross purposes to what he's he's saying that he should be possibly it might just remind
Starting point is 00:45:50 people about how much they don't like Trump. Exactly. But and it kind of makes Hillary look cool as fuck. No you should see that picture. It doesn't look great. All right. But the thing is Alex has to walk this really weird line where he can't encourage his audience to commit acts of vandalism because that's like he knows that it's illegal. It's very weird. So he has to he has to he has to sort of figure it out and do the best he can. In this next clip Sebo talks about the difference between his school of conservatives and these dumb dumb liberals. The thing is Republicans they just want to have barbecues and raise their kids and have a job. Everyone on the left is politically active. But we need to learn to do the same. I know it sucks politics isn't sexy but unfortunately
Starting point is 00:46:43 if we don't do it man they're just going to run us over. It's survival and I want all the listeners to learn from you about street art. Yeah that's gonna work. What would they learn. I think Alex thinks that his Hail Mary is street art because he's talking to a street artist. That's why that happens. Yeah he's a chameleon. He's very susceptible to literally anything anyone says on his show. Whatever you're talking about is the most important part of the info war. Absolutely. So that thing that's by pants that you know might not fit. No that's ages. That's old school information warfare. Random pants. What Sebo's saying I think I kind of actually agree with for a different reason. I think that these Republican conservatives that
Starting point is 00:47:28 he's talking about they do just want to have a barbecue and they want to ignore that the comfort that they're enjoying is built on the back of exploitation that's usually racist and sexist in nature. Right. And to confront that is a nightmare to them. Which is what the liberals that they're angry about not all liberals certainly but the liberals that they're particularly mad at are the people who have gotten to the point where they have realized oh shit our comfort is based on basically a whipping boy a metaphorical whipping boy in terms of underprivileged classes and for us to just sit back and enjoy a barbecue while we know that that's the case is the moral equivalent of actively supporting that system. And therefore they are very politically motivated. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:13 So I agree with you support. I agree with support policies that are essentially white supremacist in action. Whether or not they are white supremacists in what expression. Right. You are still a white nationalist. Yes. Like that is what you are doing. You are condoning it by your inaction. Reminds me of that. That old thought experiment. You know the ones who walk away from a Malleus. I believe is how you pronounce that. Would you rather fight a duck size horse or a lot of horse size ducks. No that's a that's a theoretical question. That's a would you rather. Would you rather. Would you fight yourself or fuck yourself if there was a clone. I believe that's the classic thought experiment. Yeah. I just remember that was Plato I believe. I just remember this from
Starting point is 00:49:03 ethics class I took in college just this idea of like a society that's perfectly comfortable and utopian and a certain point everybody when they get to a certain age it's revealed to them that the reason that their society is so comfortable and utopian is that one kid is being beaten like a dog. Like a dog that gets beaten. You know just. All right. It's a savage thing that kid lives a miserable existence but because of that everyone else gets to be super happy. Okay. And the idea is the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Right. The idea is would you walk away from that idyllic community and that society knowing that it's built on the back of brutal abuse of an innocent person. Right. And Alex wouldn't. Of course not. No.
Starting point is 00:49:49 No. And conservatism right now. Absolutely would. Is that a thought experiment or just like an elucidation of what it's like to be black in this country. That might be what's behind it but that's that's it's an old school thought experiment that I think every philosophy student ends up running into. Right. But I remember it from an ethics class and. Would you would you that's that's basically the would you save five people by purposefully killing one or would you through inaction wind up killing five people. Somewhat. It's not as it's not as cut and dry as those just like simple utilitarian arguments. Yeah. But who cares. I have bigger things to talk about about. Good point. Sabo accidentally slipped. Sabo fucked up. Okay. In this next clip
Starting point is 00:50:38 he talks about a billboard that he defaced which is fine. I'm not. I'm not a narc like I told you. I don't give a shit. You want to deface billboards. Have that. Well so long as he doesn't deface Sabba the great Chicago rapper who put out a wonderful new album. Sabba versus Sabo. Yeah. We need him to go against Sabba. The noodles. Yes. So what you've got here is he's talking about this billboard that he defaced and what he did is there was a woman on it. I believe a figure skater. I can't remember the exact visual but it's a picture. Carrigan. It's that picture of Al Franken who looks like he's groping that lady. Remember that whole whole thing. Yeah. It's that it's Al Franken from that picture blown up and put on that billboard. Now here's where he fucks up.
Starting point is 00:51:32 He says that someone contacted him and told him to make that billboard. Sabo is admitting that he had advanced notice that this story was coming out which is incredibly fucked up. Listen to this clip. I have people that call me up and say hey I have someone in the State Department that's going to go speak against who's the one groper guy. Well anyways well most of them are gropers. I'm at Weinstein. No the comedian Al Franken. Yeah. I get phone calls saying hey man I have someone in the State Department. She's going to come out pretty soon. So we coordinate. I did that Al Franken billboard with them and it's like and we affected some change. How much change I had a part of. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I just know that that went viral. It went national and and that took that took a lot of balls man. I was laying in bed going oh my god someone's going to die tomorrow morning. I told my crew if you don't want to do this tell me now and they said nope let's do this and we practice this over and over and over again until it became a dance and we got that thing up there like 15 minutes. It was the most beautiful thing in the world. He had very short notice like the Lombada. He had very short notice from somebody in the State Department that might have that seems a little bit a little bit self aggrandizing but that might have just been seen because how there's nobody in the State Department because Tillerson didn't hire anybody but that might have
Starting point is 00:53:05 been just someone bluffing or like trying to make the thing seem more important than it was. Yeah that sounds right. Here is a probable coincidence quote from this CBS News article. Hours before the allegations against Senator Al Franken became public Thursday Trump ally Roger Stone seemed to know they were coming. God damn it. A Twitter account linked to the former Trump advisor posted a quote from Stone in the early hours Thursday morning that suggested he expected allegations involving the Minnesota Democrat to go public quote Roger Stone says it's Al Franken's time in the barrel. Franken next in a long list of Democrats to be accused of grabby behavior. Later in the morning that story came out Leanne Tweeden who went on to
Starting point is 00:53:51 accept Franken's apology and say an investigation doesn't need to happen. It's all very suspicious stuff. I have very little doubt that the person who contacted him and told him hey overnight we need to get this billboard up was one Roger Stone and because Sabo is so he's an asset casualty. He's like a 50 year old dude or so. Yeah I was going to say he does not sound like somebody on the cutting edge of street art. Well I mean say what you want about his art. I don't really I can't critique art. I don't have that skill set but what I can do is draw weird parallels between someone who is not media savvy accidentally saying on Alex Jones's show that someone contacted him and paid him to make this billboard on short notice. Clearly basically overnight Roger Stone
Starting point is 00:54:42 tweeted 12 hours before the allegations came out. It seems like there's probably maybe Roger Stone everywhere. It might be. Where is he not. It's probably. Why is it that we find Roger Stone behind so many different bullshit things. It's probably a coincidence. No I don't think so. You know what though. I think Roger Stone might actually control everything. When he said someone in the State Department it made me think of Steve Pachennick but I don't think that Steve Pachennick and Roger would have been collaborating on that. I don't think that's the case. I think it's Roger throwing around State Department references. Yeah why not. Or whatever. He's Roger Stone. He'll throw anything around. This is a massive massive slip on their part. Like the idea that street artist Sabo
Starting point is 00:55:28 knew about the Al Franken stuff before and Roger Stone info wars narrative specialist. I don't know. I don't know. Trickster God. Executive producer and dirty trickster. Yeah. Knew about it in the same time frame. Roger Loki Stone. Roger propagandist Stone. Yeah. Getting a street artist to make propaganda for him about a story that he knows he's gonna is gonna come out. It just seems too likely. It's crazy. Man is. Yeah. Is there any way that we could turn Roger Stone's powers for good. No. I feel like there's some sort of last 30 years streak. There's some year streak. There's some kind of Darth Vader narrative that we could pull Roger Stone into right. No. Like he has to die in a tragically heroic way. The redeeming of the anti hero. No.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Come on man. Now you're going Star Wars on him. No. Anyway we have one more clip of Sabo real quick before we get to take a break. And here he advocates that everyone get into street art. They're coming at everybody. We are fighting for our lives. We must get out of cyberspace and get onto the street and then fire back from the third dimension into cyberspace. I don't know who did that here in Austin. But it's terrible. You know it is. And you know what all you have to do is get your butt up on one billboard and you'll realize what to do and what not to do. The first one's always scary. The second one's kind of scary. But you're right. Jack Dorsey the CEO of Twitter. He wants nothing less than a civil war and he wants to destroy
Starting point is 00:57:01 us. He said that straight out pretty much. And you know what he's not going to destroy us. Twitter is going to go the way of my space. Probably not. But I do like this idea of like hey all your listeners just get up on billboards. Your first one's going to be weird but then I go better. You might fall. Who knows. So we've now had Sabo make a very startling admission. What's up. Third dimension back into cyberspace. Right. I was getting ready. Got to do it. Right. So we had to take a quick break. So you use the restroom. But let me tell you when we get back we have one of the lamest propaganda piece special reports from Millie Weaver to discuss. All right. We generally don't talk about her all that much on this show. I'm a big fan of any time
Starting point is 00:57:48 Rainbow Snatch shows up. We need to discuss this one because it's next level stupid. OK. And we will be dealing with that in just about two minutes. We will be right back. Thank you folks. There we are back. All right. There we are. Here we are. So Jordan as I mentioned it's time for us to take a look at a special report from Millie Weaver. Uh huh. Now what happened. I guess actually I don't need to explain anything. I think Alex will set it up perfectly in this next clip. Joining us is Millie Weaver our intrepid reporter who loves to work on the road with her great cameraman and editor Gavin Wince. And last night she called me very excited. Video is now on infowars.com. Me too movement assault conservative woman for asking questions
Starting point is 00:58:34 about the Clintons and their history of sexual assault. Oh my. What a what a scoop. What a scoop. So what do you think about that so far. I don't know. I think it's a valuable thing to ask about. I think for too long they have been protected by so many influential powers that that is an issue that should be brought up and challenged. Like the fact that it is a men thing. It's a dudes thing not a party thing not a an ideological thing. It's something that men should be fucking regulated about. So yes I support this now. I assume it's not going to go well. Man well man. Oh it's not going to go well. This is not go well. No boy. So what ends up happening. I don't remember exactly how these clips go. But I think I think in this first clip of Millie's actual report we get to
Starting point is 00:59:38 hear the question that she asks. I'm not entirely sure. This might I don't know. This might be just Alex talking. I need to label clips better. Okay. Okay. Basically Tarana Burke got really upset when I asked about the possibility of the hashtag me too movement becoming too partisan and being used as a political weapon. And if you know essentially that was going to take away from the mission which is to help victims of sexual assault which immediately then she turned nasty was like oh well I wonder who you voted for and just suck her mob audience on me with this mob like mentality that all started cheering her on and you know supporting her in trying to bully and intimidate me into silence. So I would I would say a couple of important things. First I think is
Starting point is 01:00:31 the most important and what she is accusing because it's not a question what she's accusing this hashtag me to meeting of being is too partisan or that it's being you're turning it into a partisan thing. That is what Millie is intending to do by going there and asking this question. Don't point that out. She's literally doing the thing that she's accusing them. She has no concept of that. It's it's bananas impossible for her to understand philosophically is mind blowing the like because it's not inability to realize this. I disagree. I think they are legitimately too dumb to examine their own actions. No no no because this is a setup like this isn't it. We talk about good and bad faith all the time. This is the definition of evil. Well no not even that because I think those
Starting point is 01:01:22 words are too loaded to even I think good and bad faith is much more relevant and important because she didn't go there with a video camera to act like she doesn't live in fucking Akron. She flew to Akron to go to this fucking speech and she did so specifically in order to hopefully antagonize a response that she can get on video that will feed into the narrative that she wants to push. Well it's just like James O'Keeffe all he wanted to do is find out the truth Dan. It wasn't about any kind of partisan agenda. Time out. Can you imagine a scenario where she goes to Akron and she's like here's my question and Tarana Burke is like that's a very good point and I think there's a conversation that needs to be had and we are having it and I think that you might just
Starting point is 01:02:13 be missing some pieces of it and it's actually just like not great video and then she goes on Alex's show the next day and it's like hey it's really amazing actually I went there and they were really they were willing to have a dialogue and it's like there's you know I got free coffee from Starbucks for being a conservative. There's no way that that works that doesn't fly for Alex. It doesn't fly for what she gets paid to do. No. She went there in bad faith in order to ask a question that was meant to antagonize and meant to accuse. Yeah. It was not meant to be like hey I care about Juanita Broderick. I care about Kathleen Willey. I care about these people that Bill Clinton has allegedly sexually assaulted. I care about that. It was what the fuck's wrong with you.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Why don't you care about Democrat assaults and stuff like that and I think that's intellectually dishonest because I think yeah I think like not just that not just that but it is it is just like Alex whenever he pulls that bullshit where immediately after some sort of tragedy happens he has no concept of like I feel empathy for the victims. None of that. No. It is purely I am going to aggressively make this worse. Yeah. That's my entire goal here is to give I could not give less of a shit about who he hurts. All I want to do is hurt him. It has nothing to do with and it's not even retribution. It's not even I want to I want to hurt him in response to the damage that he's caused. It's just I am irrationally driven by Larry Nichols' bullshit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And we'll hear a bit of her actual presentation of the question in a little bit and we'll we'll see what what's what. I assume that it is very fair minded and she's got an she's willing to listen to opposing viewpoints. If I know anything about Millie Weaver it's that she is about sincerity. She's about the new sincerity. Great wigs hugely into great ways. She should have a podcast on maximum fun. She's so into the new sincerity. Yep. Yep. Sounds right. So yep. She is all about just the truth and vulnerability and is not at all creating a complete bullshit version of things in order to serve her purposes. So in this next clip she talks more about what she had to endure at this. Oh man. At this place. Just so much. In the name of journalism. Tragedy.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And a mob of protesters came out. I wasn't even sure what it was about because their banner said take a little bit of research real quick. What she wasn't sure what it was about. Right. Do I go to the Facebook group what she's describing here and it's going to come back and play out later. What she's describing is she's setting up a narrative because she's edited her video and she wants to make it seem like she asked this question got kicked out and she walked out and all of a sudden there was a protest going on that wasn't going on before. Oh. It's a mystery protest. Never. Where did it come from. Right. So as I'm approaching it I start getting flipped off and having women yelling at me and that's when I realized wait a second this is the hashtag me to
Starting point is 01:05:41 movement and they were probably observing in a separate room because they were streaming the video to other rooms and that's when I realized oh my gosh you know these are these women are irate they're very mad at me. Essentially Tarana Burke gave them her mission because they had all established rapport with her. What she did a really good job throughout the the meeting the the speech to make everyone established rapport with her and seeming like she's just trying to help everyone and she's just this woman. I can say this Tyranus Burke a Tarana Burke nice and these women we haven't played the video yet. Tyranus. They're just so vicious they're so hateful and you're a woman I guess you went in there without your camera person by yourself and then they've obviously been been trained and
Starting point is 01:06:27 ready for somebody to try to come in and this is how they act like vicious entitled arrogant piranhas the universities have turned into these anti-free speech bullying dens. So that's that's sort of like they've built the narrative of what happened um but we should really be like we we we should not make bones about what this is about. This is what this is about. If you support free speech then you need to support info wars. If you support Millie and our crew valiantly going into these den of aggressive authoritarian cult members and being assaulted and yelled at and hissed at and I am our camera they attempted to take I guess I guess steal. If you stand with us and we need your financial support we've got products you need. Yeah so he uses he uses all of this bullshit that
Starting point is 01:07:16 Millie is spinning out of this story. Do you know why the cameraman wasn't there? We couldn't afford to pay him because you haven't bought enough. Millie's weirdo husband Gavin couldn't come along. If you had signed up for auto ship we would have gotten all of this good shit on video but because you didn't we're going to conjecture about it in a way that maybe supports exactly what we already wanted to say. Maybe so I believe this is the clip of the actual question being asked. Pay very close attention. Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderick all came out with sexual allegations against Bill Clinton decades ago. They originated this idea of coming out against someone who's powerful but they came out before these other women came out against
Starting point is 01:08:05 Harvey Weinstein. Now why were they excluded from the hashtag me to movement? They weren't so very quick important they weren't fucking yeah her response was who said they were excluded right which is a fair question. Here's Millie's response. They were not included in the Time Magazine article. I would say ask Time Magazine about that. That's an editorial issue. Seems like the me to movement wasn't in control of what the Time Magazine people are not the editors of Time. Yeah. This is a misdirected question. You're angry about something and you're clear like it's clear what you're doing. This isn't about a sincere question. Article none of the women were interviewed. Do you are you worried at all that the hashtag me to movement may become to partisan
Starting point is 01:09:00 and be used as a political weapon? Back in a minute. They're saying who did you vote for? So the whole point is they're making it partisan. The woman marches over starts trying to take the microphone. I want to point out you went up you asked the question. They gave you the microphone. You did this the proper way. So this is where that like accusing your enemy of doing what you're doing. Yeah. Is happening in real time. And this is why it's so easy is because it's so murky. And it's really easy to bait someone into a situation like this. It's very easy for this collection of people who are just having a meeting about sexual assault to be painted as liberal or pro left leaning by someone who is there specifically antagonizing for the right in order to push them
Starting point is 01:09:55 in that direction. Oh it's so partisan. Are you worried that the me to movement is becoming too partisan Dan. What if the me to movement doesn't vote for the guy who is relaxing protections that are that women need even more. Why would you think that they aren't as valuable in the me to movement. Is there any reason why the me to movement might be against the guy who is making the me to movement his enemy. Is there any possible reason it's partisanship. It's clearly partisanship. It's not part of the very stated fucking objective of the group to fight against assholes who commit sexual assault. Well she works for info wars and she's coming in to ask a clearly partisan question in order to paint partisanship on the group. And I mean if I were to war game
Starting point is 01:10:51 this I know the reason is because some of the most valid criticisms and very sincere issues about Trump are related to sexual assault stuff. Yeah. Some of the most. Do you mean all the sexually assaulting that he did. The fact that he raped his wife. Yeah. Might have something to do with that. Yeah. The fact that our president is a fucking rapist. No but but doing this is deflection of that. It's in service of that. They don't care about this for any other reason than that. This is just a set piece in order to work towards that sort of defense. Right. All all this is out of control. It's rampant liberalism run amok. Of course. He's a university. So the Tarana Burke when she's interacting with Millie it goes on and she's like well I mean if you want to talk
Starting point is 01:11:42 about even earlier stuff we got to talk about Anita Hill and the crowd claps and Alex in the studio is like like what he just asked her out. Yeah. Great. Great. And then he's like if you want to talk about this stuff what about Roy Moore. You know and he was a patriot. Yeah. Oh what about the governor of Missouri. Don't worry about that. But so what Alex Patriot how Alex response to that is like all they can do is throw back Republican examples. I'm like yeah. No but who cares about that. That is what your bit was. Yeah. Millie pointing out examples where it was Democrats who did it. When you came in the accusation that you made was about people from a specific party and that you can't be mad that that is the rebuttal. Why is it. Why isn't that. Why can't you put it
Starting point is 01:12:41 fucking together that it has nothing to do with party. And anytime you give a dude power he's going to fucking abuse it. Right. That is what's going. Not every. I'm sure. No I don't even care. I'm sure if you give a dude power there's a super huge chance he's going to abuse it directed towards women because he's going to get away with that. I'm sure Louis C. K. was a very liberal dude. He seemed to be pretty liberal. I'm sure I'm sure he voted for every liberal position. He called Donald Rumsfeld the lizard on the opiate Anthony show. Well Donald Rumsfeld actually is a lizard. It's possible. That is a non partisan issue. But you know what I mean. Politics has nothing to do with it. No. And this is just disgraceful. It's a nonsense. It's an abuse of
Starting point is 01:13:28 power. No. No. No. I'm talking about Millie's behavior. Oh yeah. I mean it's all disgraceful. Yeah. Yeah. But we're not. We're not. We're not. There's no winner. I'm talking about the propaganda. Yeah. Also prop dude tweeted or put in the chat room. Mark Dice was skulking in the bushes with a petition. First of all that's super funny for the image but then secondarily really funny because I haven't seen Mark Dice in a while. Oh I wonder what he's doing. What's the Mark Dice man up real bad street man pieces. Too many dice dice. We're going to have to let you go. Anybody. It turns out you're really bad at this job. Anybody who has not listened to tons of episodes of this podcast I must restate. Go on YouTube and just type in Mark Dice bloopers. It is not to be believed.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's the craziest stuff you've ever seen in your life. It's the least funny shit in the world. So at this point Millie brings it. She's doing her. We've heard her ask her question and she gets thrown out and someone it's unclear because the camera work is really bad. She's just has a phone doing it. It's either someone grabs the phone or it's made to look like she's being pushed. She probably just shakes it really hard. I don't know. I don't know because I've seen so many of those like second like external views of Mike Cernovich acting like he's being assaulted and it's just three people standing behind him and being like she was she was flopping like the Champions League. Right. She's like she was going she was going to town. She's like the rock taking
Starting point is 01:15:10 a stunner. Right. She's just flopping all over the place. So here's where she but I think I think that's that is kind of a crystallization of my philosophy on on how you should respond to these people is don't don't bother like there shouldn't have been a response to that. There shouldn't have been like well what about Roy Moore. There's there doesn't need to be a what about there needs to be a buy. Now I know that was a lot but that's the that's the in front of a live crowd kind of thing. You know you know that as a comedian of course you don't want to show ass in front of a crowd. No of course when someone's asking a question sometimes your mind will go to just like oh this is a good point when the the best case thing you're talking about like my philosophy with
Starting point is 01:15:58 Heckler like I don't want a Jordan comedian destroys Heckler. I want like Jordan. Jordan is like come to a wonderful agreement with the heckler about how life should be and then he moves on with the show. Like that's that's my that's my situation there. I'm not a headline video. Jordan builds up heckler. Yeah. Jordan helps heckler actualize. I would not get as many clicks. No probably not. So at this point. So I've cut out a bit of stuff but there's a point where Millie is like hey sorry the feed cut out because someone grabbed the phone. Oh that feed which is a convenient way for her to edit and so here's where she runs into the protest. They want to get really rude and nasty when I ask them questions about the women that came out against Bill Clinton for rape
Starting point is 01:16:52 that's Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones. We've all heard the stories. They don't want to hear about that. They don't want to hear about how you know these women that that came out against Bill Clinton were accosted and oppressed by Hillary Clinton. What is this? I'm literally walking out here guys and all of a sudden there's a protest. However we dress wherever we go. So here's what seems like you can't really disagree with that. Here's what happened. After the speech there was a march. She has edited it selectively to make it seem like she gets thrown out. She walked out and then what's this? It's a surprise protest. I guarantee there's like an hour of her sitting around waiting for the march to get going so she could create this. She's
Starting point is 01:17:45 got a lawn chair waiting for the parade. Exactly. And so when the march comes I bet that I bet that march threw candy out. When the march comes by her people start flipping her off which is, I mean, that's the cost you play. That's the cost to play the game. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And a couple of people who are marching did fuck up because they engaged in the same way you were saying. Just let it be. Just let it be. Fuck you. Go away. That's what you should do. But they came over and were telling her like why can't we just have a peaceful thing. Right. And the way that Millie plays it with the video is that the girl who's telling her why can't we have a peaceful thing is about the march which would be crazy. Yeah. Because the way she
Starting point is 01:18:36 presents it is this march just happened out of nowhere and all of a sudden they come up to her and are like hey we're defensive about our march. When Millie hasn't said anything. No. When clearly it's referring to earlier maybe an hour earlier when all those people who are marching were inside at the speech and they saw her antagonistically ask a question that wasn't a question. It was an accusation. Right. And then leave while people were like what the fuck? Why are you asking? Come on. It's such a disappointment. It's so disappointing. It's not a disappointment. It's delightful for me because the propaganda is so fucking thin. It's weak. It's so obvious to see through. Right. But people get tricked by this. But they can't see through it. It's a foregone
Starting point is 01:19:26 conclusion which is the whole point that I make is that to Millie Weaver if you can't recognize that these people are trying to not make just their lives better but your life better as well. Why did 57% of white women vote for Trump? Like that kind of bullshit. Like if you're doing this, if you can't recognize, if you're living in a right to work state and you're against unions, they're actively making your life better. But those do's man. Those do's. Oh those do's. Boo. You know what the problem with union labor is they don't work hard. Yeah. Sure. Fuck off. Yeah. Oh, speaking of which, really exciting. That last episode of the dollop this week got into something we covered. Oh yeah? I think this is one of the first times we've beat them to half a
Starting point is 01:20:20 story because it got into the Chinese Exclusion Act. Oh, that's right. That's right. Talked about in the end game coverage. Yeah. Suck it, Dave Anthony. Oh no. But the reason that I thought about that was because of the obviously union stuff. I don't know. Who cares? Anyway, we beat them to the Chinese Exclusion. I don't know why I'm petty about that. I think there's a lot of reasons why you're petty about that. No, I'm not. Great show. So it is. Love it. Listen to every episode. In this next clip, Alex implies that the protest that Millie Weaver walked into happened just because Millie was there. Of course. Ladies and gentlemen, it's always the same leftist tactic. She's 20 feet away
Starting point is 01:21:03 videotaping a protest coming by that was there in case there was a counter protest. They call in the Pretorian Guard right on cue. They start marching up. You're going to see that they know Millie's there. They've been activated to come out of the parking garage. And then they come over and say, why can't we just be peaceful? And then the assault start. Why can't you be peaceful? Why don't you get out of here? And that's what they'll link arms how to run you over. They do the same training. These are authoritarians. Let's continue. Let's. So I like the idea that people have protests just in case there's a counter protest. Oh, no, no, no. He was. I mean, the way he kept talking was troubling because he's like, they got activated from a garage.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Oh, that's to say that all of these people were waiting in a garage and because Millie Weaver was there, they're like, oh, fuck. Millie got a flight to Ohio. We thought that she. Yeah. She fucking lives in Austin. We have been preparing for Millie Weaver to come to Ohio for so long. Right. But the moment she does, we're ready for it. They never saw it coming. But because they're so scared, they had them waiting in the garage. Oh, every single time there is a speech anywhere around the country, they're just waiting in that garage for Soros to get on the, he's got a sidekick. He chirps them on the sidekick. Hey, get out of the garage. Get out of the garage. We got a Millie Weaver siding. Naturally, he starts it with what?
Starting point is 01:22:33 Because of course, or he has code like just gets on the sidekick. Then it's time to go. Right. Right. Out of the fucking garage. Of course. Of course. That makes sense. This is like, this is desperate. This is so sad because it's very clear. Like if you watch it, the whole video, you can't, it's there. It's very pass. Here's something that I keep struggling with. Like I'm dismissive of this stuff because I did watch it and like, I know that this is edited and very fake. But at the same time, I don't want us to get into the same position that we get into or that Alex gets into where it's like, hey, you can check it out yourself. You know, like I don't want to discourage people from actually checking. Right. You can. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I don't I respect that. It's a weird line to walk. I will tell you, it's boring in the same way that like reading a lot of these books that he references. It's boring. Right. You can read. Right. I don't know. Right. It's a tough position for me to be in. Well, I mean, the hard part is we are coming from a place of please, please go read this stuff because you should absolutely cross check. Like we're going to be wrong eventually. Yep. We have been wrong. We've made apologies. Yeah. Well, of course. And it's very much like a situation of please, please cross check us because we want to know when we're wrong. That's something that's really important to us. Also, thank you, Mary Jaler. We appreciate it very much. You gave a little cheer. I don't know how this Twitch
Starting point is 01:24:12 shit works in terms of like, but it seems like it seems like it seems like it seems very nice. And I appreciate it. I don't know. We are old, but young. What are you doing? You snapchatting on the Twitch? What's happening? What's happening? We should do the show on Snapchat. I don't know if that's a thing. Can you do that? I don't have snapchat. It just seems like a place where people solicit nudes. I really don't know what's going on there. As much as I love nudes, I should know about it. Anyway, that's a great sentence. That's a great sentence. As much as I love nudes, I should know about Snapchat, but technology has left me behind. You poor bastard. Anyway, you'll never get those nudes. In summation with the Millie stuff, we have a situation where it's
Starting point is 01:25:06 very clear that you have an actor in the part of Millie. I don't mean actor like she's a crisis actor or anything like that. One who acts. Yeah, she's hamming it up. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying she is the antagonist of this. She is the one who is doing the acting in the action. She goes and she has bad faith. She's the antagonist. Yes. She goes specifically in order to create some sort of response in this meeting that was existing totally fine without her being there. And knows that what you need to do is you need to get some footage. Alex needs to fucking buffer the show. The Sandy Hook shit is going on. He needs help. He needs to fill time. Doesn't want to talk about that for half an hour. And so she does by accusing me of being too
Starting point is 01:25:57 political by bringing politics into it and then staging this idea that there's a protest that materializes out of nowhere because she's there. And to me, that's an invalidation. It's like in the movie Inception, whenever you start to threaten the dream, all of the dream people start to attack you. But that's a rhetorical invalidation of the right to congregate and the right to protest. They don't have the right to protest if you disagree with conservative positions, Dan. That's fucking autocracy. That's authoritarian. I'm looking over at the chat room and Sharks wants to know our view on the gays. Big fans. What? I don't know. That's a weird way of putting that, Dan. I don't know. Big fans. Yeah, they're great. All for it. Everyone's great. So
Starting point is 01:26:52 my point about Millie, that would be, look, if, if we, if we, if we, I gotta not look at the chat, if we maintain so many liberal positions and yet somehow we're against gay marriage, that would be bananas or even like not even gay marriage, just be like, I think it's unnatural against God. Ask me. Okay. How do you feel about homosexuals? I don't believe it exists. We're the most liberal Saudi Arabians there are. Not a thing. Look, socialism is correct. I think trans people should have absolute protection and most hate crimes. Oh, that bullshit about the bathroom bill. Also no gays, but that bullshit about the bathroom bill. No gays, but for real, you should be allowed to identify as whatever it is you want. Also skin color says something about
Starting point is 01:27:46 your character. That's a, you know what? Phrenology, not debunked. You know what? We might have accidentally stumbled into a really good sketch pit that would never work because we can't write like good characters. Right. Super progressive on the news stuff. Super progressive. Way behind on the old stuff. Like all the stuff that has already, like all those battles have already been fought. Right. Uh, just like, no, no, I think racism is a real thing. I think, uh, I think, I think that's, I think that stuff's real. I think, but at the same time, I, I think like that's the trans rights for it. The inverse of that drew Michael bit about conservatives going so far conservative with their hatred of Jews that they wind up advocating for
Starting point is 01:28:34 progressive policies. Yeah. Uh, I, I, I fear that we've gone too far based on this, uh, fair enough. Uh, this, uh, let's move on. Twitch comment. I, uh, I need to stop looking at the chair. Yeah. Um, so Millie Weaver shit's done. It's embarrassing as bad, uh, but as is her want at, uh, at this point, Alex gets a call from, uh, his boy, Zach, his fake intelligence source. Okay. We space command. He very clearly has to say, you know, what the me too movement is against space space hate it hate Mars. Um, so last we heard from Zach was on the Friday show where Alex turned on Trump and Zach was backing him up on that saying it was fucked up. Right. And also saying that, uh, this was a war for Mars. Uh-huh. They're trying to get us back onto
Starting point is 01:29:24 the planet. They're not trying to, uh, let us, uh, go to the space. This is everyone's trying to fight for Mars and the moon. Yeah. And what have you. So I assume he's taking his principled stance and he is bringing it back another week later in order to make sure that Alex Jones is held accountable. See, your bit is good and I appreciate that, but you jumped the gun because I wanted to say other shitty things about that. Also the last time we, also the last time we saw him on that Friday, he did not know who the joint chief of staff was. Not a good idea. He thought that McMaster had not been fired. Still thought it was rum spelt. Possibly McMaster was the joint chief of staff when he was the national security advisor. Right. All of those things
Starting point is 01:30:05 should be something that it, the high level intelligence source, right? Should know it's kind of invalidating that he doesn't know those things. It kind of seems like it would be his literal job to know. Yeah. So here's the other reason I know that Zach is fake as folk. Yeah. Besides all the stuff he says. Right. Um, Alex ends the interview with Millie Weaver by saying like, I'm going to get to Zach. He's only got a couple of minutes. He's in a rush. Um, and then in the middle of Zach's interview, he goes to commercial. He blows hard for about two minutes about things he's mad about while Zach's waiting on hold. And then he does it. He does a read for a product while Zach is waiting on hold. Okay. So the idea that your high level intelligence
Starting point is 01:30:49 source is coming in and he's got information that you got to get to on a short timeframe. Oh man. You've done three things to kill time while he's waiting on hold. It leads me to believe you don't take him all that seriously. He's got to jump on Mark Rich's plane. We actually do find out where he's got to go. Oh yeah. And uh, all the dude, it's so fucked up because it's like, I don't, I don't believe any of this. He ends the call with like, I know you're on your lunch break. It's like, I don't know. By federal law, you do have to give people a 30 minute lunch break. But I feel like high level intelligence people probably work on a little bit more of a swing in schedule than people who are like, if you're not back at your desk, you're getting written up.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I would assume maybe high level intelligence people get a little bit of leeway. You put in late nights if you're in high level intelligence. Yeah, you got to, but that's so fucking stupid. That leads me to believe that like, okay, so what? All right, who cares? Where are you going? I was about to make a lost reference. Okay. Anyway, all right. In an early season, Locke is I was about to do it. And now I'm going to do it. Locke role plays as a general. And there's a whole situation where he works at an office and like a Dungeons and Dragons. He works at a low level situation in an office. And anyway, guys are so reluctant. And yet you still want to get it out. Here's a great idea. One of the new possible rewards is we'll just
Starting point is 01:32:32 do a podcast about lost for a week. Yes. No, not for a week. We do the whole series. No, once a week, there's already plenty of podcasts that do that, but not done by us. That doesn't make sense. I know a lot about lost. I don't want to know anything about lost. And there is the fun. Fair. That's a good point. I'm in at our Facebook group. Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. If you want us to do that, horrible idea. Go home and tell Locke you're brilliant. Anyway. Yeah. I feel like what we have here is a situation where Zach works a day job of some sort. And he did need to get back to his desk. And he had this time that he could make a call to Alex. And here we go. Yeah. So the only thing that he wants to do is sort of reinforce
Starting point is 01:33:24 Alex's narratives. He's already doubled back in the same way that Alex has doubled back from the Trump is fucking us over into like, Oh, no, new narrative. Secret super patriot. It's mysterious how this high level intelligence guy seems to blow in the wind the exact same way that Alex does. It's a lovely coincidence for Alex. Probably just because Alex is so in touch with things. Anyway, here's what he wants to say. And the plan is this is it folks. I don't know if anybody's looking into this, but this is definitely the plan. Nikki Haley is looking to run in 2020 with Mike Pence. They're hoping that you are in this raid and they have probable they have probable cause here if they go after this witch hunt to actually impeach Donald Trump if they could if they could
Starting point is 01:34:04 pull it off and their their planning internally for Donald Trump to be impeached and Nikki Haley and Mike Pence to run on that 2020 ticket. You keep caring and notice Saturday Night Live and all of them for months are acting like Pence is perfect. He's the guy and the headlines are today that Haley and Pence are trying to line it up behind the scenes. Very, very wicked behavior. If true. Absolutely. And very, very dangerous behavior. I mean, listen, we'll notice how the media always says Pence is perfect and Pence could do a wrong and he navigated it perfectly. They're notoriously anti gay monster Trump. He better not be stupid. Um, notoriously pro gay conversion conversion therapy. Mike Pence, the media gives him such
Starting point is 01:34:46 a pass. Alex to your question of whether I've noticed the media saying that Pence can do no wrong. Hard no. Yeah. Hard no. Yeah. Have not have not experienced that. Also, I don't. Well, one, we've never had a vice president for a sitting president campaign with a challenger in the primary for that president. That would be weird. That would be bananas. No, because what the way they're presenting it is that Trump would get impeached. Yeah. So, but then Nikki Haley would become president, vice president, I guess, because Pence would become president. It kind of seems like 2020. It would be, it would be Haley Pence. Pence Haley. They'd be, I think I think he kind of is implying that Haley is running for president with Pence as her
Starting point is 01:35:37 vice president, but he's also saying they're going to get Trump impeached. And that would mean that Pence would already be president. There's no fucking way, regardless of what you think about any of these people, there's no fucking way that you end up with an impeached president. So the vice president becomes president. Right. Then two years later, there's an election and the president, the, who has been the president for two years because of the impeached president is like, I gotta go back to vice president. I like, I gotta go back. Yeah. Well, to be honest, I bet he would like it better. Sure. But that has such a cushy gig right now. Right. But that doesn't play. No, it makes no sense. It would be, look in the, in the chaotic dark timeline that we
Starting point is 01:36:21 live in, that would be the best. That's the only logical outcome to our weird ass world we live in. I am currently the president and I am campaigning for a lesser role. So it doesn't count as a term for me. So I'm going to campaign with Nikki Haley as her vice president. She's going to serve two terms. Then I'm going to campaign with Paul Ryan as his vice president. How, okay. Here's a good question. How many terms can you be vice president? I think, I don't know. Is that, is that a thing? I don't know. That's a really interesting question that I've never considered. Yeah. I don't think it's ever come up. Can you just be vice president forever? I think everyone's kind of like, man, who cares? Yeah, right? Yeah. I'm super interested in that.
Starting point is 01:37:09 I want, I want that now. Look, vice president for life. But yeah, Grover Cleveland serving two non-consecutive terms. That's fantastic. But Mike Pence being vice president for life. I don't even know how to deal with that. Well, now is the time that you get to do some research. I can take a seat. All right. So at this point, I know a lot about vice presidencies. I don't know anything about it. There you go. So at this point, Zach leaves. Because of course he does. He's got to, he's done with his lunch break and he's got to get back to the data entry that he does for a living. Right. And so Alex finally is left without any more guests. Milly Weaver is gone. Doesn't have Sabo, the great street artist anymore. And so he's finally got to get to Sandy
Starting point is 01:37:54 Hook. He's got to talk about it. Oh, no. And so here is his position. Oh boy. I learned that they know I'm so truthful and the globalists respect me so much. And I'm not saying that as a power trip. I've only learned this recently that they believe everything I say. Sure. Great. And I'm right most of the time. I'm wrong sometimes. All the time. The whole Sandy Hook secret is this. 2017. And I'll go ahead and say it all on air. The whole truth, nothing but the truth. They thought because I backed off saying I didn't think all of Sandy Hook was real. All. I never said they were all crisis actors. I never said nobody, you know, died. I said I could see how people believe that and 70 30 because people have been lied to so
Starting point is 01:38:39 much, but they edited those tapes together. But if I thought really it was all stage, nobody died, I'd say it. You did. You did. So we have you on tape a lot. 2015. I can pull up the entire list here if you give me just a second. So I was caught with my pants down a little unawares. So all that's bullshit. Everything he's saying is bullshit. Everything he's saying is bullshit. I feel like he needs to have a disclaimer of like, now I'm going to tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth. My lawyers strongly advised me not to do this. Right. Or they didn't because they love the billable hours. So on January 13, 2015, if you go to knowledge fight.com, we do have a link up to this. You could find the entire episode of his show on video. But again,
Starting point is 01:39:28 we've played this clip a number of times, but this is just, it just bears repeating. You got a call. This is on January 13, 2015. This is what he said. But what I'm curious about is, do you think that there's a new level of sophistication with a lot of these false flags where they plant a couple of pieces of, you know, flimsy evidence that get everybody talking and steer them in the wrong direction. So like, to make it, to make. Yeah, when you're trying to, I mean, decipher cloaking dagger, dirty tricks, it's pretty hard to do. It's just that when you, then you learn that they were funded by Western funding, the, then you learn that it was the same Amarillo
Starting point is 01:40:09 Locky connection, underwear bomber, then those are big red flags that they were patchy provocateurs. The classic MO has been followed. And then yeah, it kind of becomes a red herring, you know, to say the whole thing was staged because they have staged events before, but then you learn the school had been closed and reopened and you got video of the kids going in circles in and out of the building and they don't call the rescue choppers for two hours. And then they tear the building down and seal it. And they get caught using blue screens and a email by Bloomberg comes out in the lawsuit where he's telling his people get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on the shooting. Uh, yeah. So Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors in my view
Starting point is 01:40:56 manufactured. I couldn't believe it at first. I knew they had actors there clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids and it just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors. I mean, so that's clear. That is what you said. Excuse me. And that was your done. That was your position consistently for a very long time. And I'm sorry about the audio being much higher on that. I still is just refuses to say it as directly. Right. So I went when it first came out that he got sued by Sandy Hook families. I thought, well, this is tough because of the time frame of it. He did most of his brutal work long ago. And a lot of the stuff that he's done in the last year or two, which is within the statute of limitations for defamation claims is not,
Starting point is 01:41:51 is much more insinuation based. And I've come to the position where I don't really understand the law. So I don't know. Fair enough. I don't know. Yeah. This could go either way, but it is really sad. The situation for everyone. Um, and it's real sad. The narrative that he's spinning because it's all lies. Yeah. There in that clip, he said he didn't say that there was actors. If he believed that he would say it, right, did say it consistently. You said it over and over again. And now in this next clip, uh, from, uh, the 18th, uh, in present day says this. So about a year after I started saying, you know, I can see how you think nobody died. But you know what? I think it happened. And I'm not going to sit there and look at parents and
Starting point is 01:42:34 say it, you know, that it did. So that he's saying a year after the shooting shooting happened in December of 2012. So that would have been 2013. Yeah. That's at least a year in a couple months, uh, uh, uh, after, I'm sorry, before, uh, the clip that we just played, right? School shootings happen. Are the Democrats seizing on it, blaming the Second Amendment? You bet. And everybody's heard me that's been listening since a lot of you've been listening for five years, some of you 20 years, but mostly have been listening, you know, just for a year or so. You've heard me what every week, they got articles saying, I say nobody died and they've always got new ones. Jones just said nobody died last week and they'll show some edited
Starting point is 01:43:14 three year old clip or four year old clip from 2015. What happened? They saw me kind of entertain it. Didn't. It was viral all over the internet. Hundreds of millions of views, just on our videos discussing it. Nah. YouTube deleted them. And then I started saying, you know, I, I think people died there because I was getting threatened by people that said nobody died and being saying I was involved. And I went, this is a little bit schizophrenic. And so Paul, who I really trust and who's just as smart as I am or smarter, he said, you got to get away from this, don't even entertain it. They're nuts. Don't even have debates. I went and told my crew. I said, I don't tell you what to do most of the
Starting point is 01:43:54 time, but I still have the Sandy Hook. This is like four years ago. My lawyer strongly advised me and the media saw that they went, he's weak. They think I'm like a sociopath like them that I tell the truth. And so they went, oh, we got him. Jones is saying it happened and stopped saying it didn't. He backed off. We got him. He admits he's wrong. So he's saying that four years ago, he went to his staff and told them to stop looking into Sandy Hook. What was the last time Mr. Pachennic said that it was like two weeks ago. Yeah, I was going to say, I know he's done that over and over again, but like four years ago, we're looking at April 2018. Now as that would be April 2014. This was, this to me was a complete, like that to me was an affront to honesty. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:45 because we did a long investigation of 2015 and we saw a bunch of stuff like there was a school shooting at a college in Oregon. And on the October 20th, 2015 show, Alex said this, also was Oregon a false flag like Newtown? He's saying specifically that Newtown was a false flag in order to bolster his narrative about Oregon being a false flag. Do you know what? So he also here. No, no, no, no, wait for this. So he told his staff to not look into Newtown and not look into Sandy Hook four years ago, which makes it very difficult to understand how this happened. But now your uncle John do Navy SEAL retired FBI agent works for a successful security company. I had missed this episode of the nightly news back on June 4th. And then again, last week,
Starting point is 01:45:42 when you did an update, and then I heard you talking about it yesterday, I knew that we'd send our reporter Dan Badandi there for days to cover the city council hearings about it. He had sent a reporter to Newtown in July of 2015 in order to cover hearings about it in order to juice up it being a false flag. If he had told his staff not to cover it in 2014, why is he sending someone in 2015? And at that event, or when Dan Badandi was out there, he ran into Rob Do's uncle, which we covered back in the 2015 investigation. And Rob Do's uncle didn't say anything that was suspicious. He just said, I've never seen anything like this. This is weird. That sort of thing. But that doesn't stop Alex from trying to get Rob Do to
Starting point is 01:46:31 manufacture a quote about it. He wasn't saying a lot, but he's like, you know, Robert, this is strange. I've never seen anything like it. Never seen anything like it. And he's been in court cases. It's not like his first. But you said he also said it doesn't add up. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, nothing adds up. It adds up. What was his exact quote? Because I want to put up an article. I would say take that from there. I would even explain something. You're a reporter, right? You're a news director. This is your uncle. It's incredible for you to quote somebody. Go back to the memory. What did he say? I'll think about the exact words, but from what I'm getting from what I remember, because I was in the car driving while I was talking to him. I had
Starting point is 01:47:06 a earpiece. I understand talking to him because I wanted to get something out of him before we did because we did the show that night on the four that day on the fourth. And I wanted to talk about it. And I said, Hey, I've got this short interview with you. You know, and you're saying it's strange. It doesn't add up. He's like, I've never been in a court proceeding like that ever where people don't know anything. That quote that he's given could very easily be rationalized as being like, I've never been in a court proceeding that was about 20 murdered elementary school kids. This is, I mean, this is embarrassing. Like this level of lying about what you have done in the past as a journalist in quotes, as a newsman, it indicates that you're
Starting point is 01:47:54 covering something up. You know, it's brutal. What's brutal is that that wouldn't be admissible in court. Now, I mean, based on the defamation, based on the yeah, from what I understand, but again, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not entirely sure if the camp is his background. I'm not entirely sure. But like, when you lie to this level, you're lying for a reason. You're covering something up and it's that you know, you did this shit. Yeah. So anyway, we should be prepared for this emotionally already. But you know what this is about. This is how he closes it. This is how he closes his discussion about his Sandy Hook position. So it's a whole thing by the Justice Department, by the Clintons, by the globalist to kind of re kick all this off. Okay, this is in
Starting point is 01:48:39 present day. This is from 2018 episode. And that's what this all is, is we can't call Alex racist. That doesn't work. Can't call him a Russian. That thing's falling apart. Nope. We'll just say he's mean to the victims of mass shooting. He is. And they said that you saw him a few months ago about what happened in Florida. And they tried to get me kicked off the air with that didn't work as it wasn't true. To be fair, you had Mike Adams on repeatedly a guy who created a website specifically to bully a victim of that shooting because you disagreed with his politics. Also, you lied a whole bunch about his timeline, pretended that you had evidence that he wasn't at the school because you were misrepresenting comments that he made about getting on his bike after school in
Starting point is 01:49:20 the evening to go back to the school. So to fuck you, you have any leg to stand on here? So they're back again, now recycling what I didn't really say from five years ago, because they think you're stupid. But AP got it right. No, you think they actually quoted me saying, you know, that Jones for years, it says he did think it happened. And that he'd love to have the parents on to discuss and have a real discussion about guns, blah, blah, blah. So blah, AP got it right. I'm going to go to this AP article right about now. So this is an AP article, Sandy Hook parents family file suit against Alex Jones. What he's referencing is Jones responded to the allegations in a YouTube video saying the families are being used by the Democratic Party
Starting point is 01:50:04 and the news media and he believes Sandy Hook quote really happened. Jones invited parents who lost their children onto the show to have a real discussion about guns. He said he believes the lawsuits will be thrown out. That's not them saying that you actually are right. They're just reporting what you said. Yeah, they didn't get it right. They're just just reporting on your response. Yeah, because it's a news organization. And then it goes into what AP said that the lawyers said I said, which isn't even in the suit, which isn't even what I did. So that's what this is. It's trying to try me in the court of public opinion, but here's the deal. I'm going to go on to the end as Churchill said, whatever the cost may be. And we've got record
Starting point is 01:50:45 traffic. We have got people buying a lot of product. So I'm going to square us up and looks, we're going to be able to beat these suits, get them thrown out. They're just we're just having to get a war room together in house council. So I don't have to worry about it. And we just move on. And we got to counter sue all the people obviously for the anti slapback provisions. And we're already filed one of those last week in DC. I'm doing what I said I do because we got to let people know when they do these, we got to hit them back so that you obviously we stop it. And then there's going to be more coming. And if they can get us, they're going to use it as the precedent. All these other media cowards that, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:21 want to stay out of this, you're going to destroy yourselves by staying out of it. I want to thank everybody that has stood with us. And I appreciate the audience, drugs report, my family, the great crew we've got. Thank you all. Speaking of that, we've got some of the biggest sales. The real red pill 50% of the power coming. I legitimately did not see that one coming. I even said it up that we should all be emotionally prepared. I wasn't, I was emotionally prepared for him to lie. I wasn't emotionally prepared for him to pivot into an ad. Oh yeah. God damn it. That's what it's all about. Maybe still gets me.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Still fucking gets me. It's pretty impressive. Yeah. So Alex, you're a liar. You might not be able to be punished for it, but go fuck yourself. So this brings us to the end of the episode. I really think that the most important thing that we covered on this, which is not as glamorous or interesting as a lot of this other stuff is that Sabo admitted on air that he had advanced notice of the Al Franken situation, which matches up perfectly with the timeline that Roger Stone had. And they both have connections stand for wars. So anyway, I got to pee again. So we got to wrap this up. All right. If you want to check out us, we are at knowledgefight.com. You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. Correct. We are on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:52:41 We are on Facebook. Dan, you could follow us or find us or subscribe to us on the iTunes. That's true. You can do that. Also, we have a group called go home until your mother, you're brilliant on Facebook, right? Where you can tell us what you think our next incentive should be. We appreciate any suggestions and all your donations. You make this possible and we really appreciate it. Absolutely. Dan, I got the last one and it was according to you very petty. So I suppose that means that it is your turn today. I shall say Hey, Millie Weaver, go fuck yourself. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Starting point is 01:53:23 Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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