Knowledge Fight - #153: More Mark Richards Fun
Episode Date: April 23, 2018Today, Dan needs an "Alex Jones Break," so he decided to go back and see if there were any old Mark Richards interviews on Project Camelot that he hasn't told Jordan about yet. As luck would have it, ...he found a few, and Jordan finally gets to learn the truth about all of America's wars, whether or not AI have souls, and the mysterious "ant beings."
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and speaking of cool things. No, I'm sick and tired of I just I wasn't not in the mood to talk about alex jones today
Uh, you know long weekend. I don't want to talk about alex jones. Tell me about it
And so I decided to go check in
With project camo with our girl kary cast I did we've been long waiting with baited breath
For the new mark richards interview that you did some mark richards today. We didn't
But here's the deal. I listen to the old ones
Okay, I found a bunch of uh interviews that she did with him that we have not talked about
Okay, so we're gonna learn a lot more about mark richards
Aka space command pilot. Uh, also known as guy who uh, the pen dragon the guy who orchestrated a murder
And is doing life in prison. Um, for those of you don't uh, know what we're talking about
I think as best as you probably the secret of 2017 is what we are talking about
Absolutely. Yeah, I think uh, the best thing for you to do is not get an explanation from us right now
I think you should go just find those old episodes
Uh and uh start from the top or just enjoy. Yeah
Oh, that's that's our next that's our next thing. That's our next investigation
Let's start from the beginning of mark richards and then figure out where we go from there
Because we we had done the seventh and eighth interviews, right? Right. And this is the fifth and sixth
Yeah, see well, we got to go all the way back to the beginning. Yeah, indeed
I want to know what the genesis of this was. Well, I think the genesis the first one was the one we did listen to with
Uh, his wife
His wife Joanne Richards. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure. I could get my timeline. That was a delight
Joanne is such a sweet woman inexplicably married to a uh, a murderer
So, uh, here's a adult context drop from today's episode
He said that britain is under the
Kind of control to some degree of the black dragon queen
Very exciting very exciting
I felt like we desperately needed something fun
The black dragon queen the black dragon queen my friend. All right. All right. He also
Uh, he also goes on to explain that when people are in uh, the service of the queen
That's the queen they're talking about. Okay, not the queen of england. The black dragon queen. All right. Absolutely mark
You're spinning some great bullshit. He's absolutely the best
So this report starts out. Are we talking dungeons and dragon style black dragon where uh, the queen spits acid
I have no idea. You know what one of the things that's great about mark richards is he plays real fast and loose with details
He just says something like that and then does not explain it. You'll even have carry be like
He did not elaborate
I'm not surprised
It doesn't need to yeah, so every single time the uh, carry casady goes to interview mark richards at uh,
vacaville prison
Yeah, she comes back and she explains what he's told her
Because she can't get a recording device into the prison right she has to write it all down with pencil
And that is this first clue and I believe her pencil privileges were taken away as well, right not at this point
She's still had pencil
She's still got pencil privileges. All right, and she has to make a fucking point of it every single time that I had to use a pencil
Hi, I'm carry casady from project cam lot. I'm here to talk about my recent interview with captain mark richards of the secret space program
Or captain mark richards of space command in essence
Uh, I was out to see him at vacaville prison with his wife joanne richards
And that was saturday october 22nd
2016
So i'm gonna go through of a lot of notes that i've taken. Uh, I only am allowed a small pencil
Yeah, we know like a golf pencil. Yeah, probably just just in case they're like, well, we know this interview
Absolutely has an end. Yeah. Yeah, once the pencil is gone completely. She does say she goes in for like four hours
That's bananas. That would be so I want I want to get him recorder privileges
Absolutely, because that four hour audio has got to be chock full of things that she's just forgotten. Yeah, what could it possibly
What could you
Of course you could talk to him for four hours if you were just letting him spin his yarns
Yeah, yeah, you know that that would be a delight
But at a certain point, wouldn't you have diminishing returns and just be like
Who you are
Still going I would assume there's a lot of him going
Hmm
Whenever she asks a question or something like that like, uh
Uh, here's the thing. All right, right. It's uh, raptors. There we go. They love chocolate
Um, so you think she ever leads them on with a question? Absolutely. And he just gives a boilerplate answer
He's just like, um, oh, yeah. Well, see there are a lot of car accidents
And there's really no explanation other than human error and she's like
Is there
Okay, no, no, no my bad. My bad. It's it's right. It's right. I
Yeah, no, no, no spiders are why car crashes happen. I would guarantee that almost every question is a leading question
In this relationship between the two of them
One of them is a researcher journalist who believes everything people tell her
Literally everything and the other is a lunatic murderer who's in prison for life
But don't let that perception that I'm painting
Don't let that fool you. All right, which you need to know
He is captain mark richards of space command, right? The sun
What do they call him like the colonel or something something like that the colonel the commander, maybe
Yeah, it's some honorific title. Um, but look, we can make jokes all day about how this guy is a murderer
And he's tricking this poor woman. Yes, we can't I don't believe we can't
But what you should know is that in prison
He has people working for him
And uh, I want to say that mark has another officer
Who reports to him and has reported it to him. He says for over 40 years
Who's in prison with him at back of bill and this present this prisoner was a um
Killed a child molester and is not sorry to have done so and sorry not sorry
Apparently is is in prison with mark and has been reporting to mark for 40 years
His name is bach
And I think that's okay to release
I guess so because it's not true
I guess it's okay to release that his name is bach
He has a guy who he's friends with in prison, which is great
Right, I think that's great to have a you know, a social life within a prison
But uh, man, the fuck his name is bach
Hmm
Johan
Sebastian
Bach
Like the I the balls on this guy. I love it to be like now carry. I do have a guy who's reporting to me
Who has reported to me for 40 years at a certain point?
I mean come on man. You gotta you gotta recommend him for a promotion or something
Is he in the secret space program too? That's unclear. I mean, he's just a guy who reports to him
What are the odds that there would be two murderers? He's a he's more he's more of a confidential informant
Yeah, that's what it really is. He's a jailhouse snitch. Yeah, exactly. Um, so uh, at at this point
He's reported to him for 40. What is he jeeps?
I don't know. What is he? Are you actually his butler? He's his gentleman's gentleman. Exactly
I don't know man. It's very bizarre that idea
But it does create like a really flight of fancy kind of image in my head like I'm I'm picturing
Like a lot of I mean we've we we've covered mark richards on a couple episodes and it's like never enough
It's like this dude is crazy. Yeah, but like this introduces a new level of like kind of crazy
He's got a bureaucracy in prism that he's imagining. Well, it's more of a it's more of a military hierarchy
I believe perhaps that but
We're we're clowning. We're having some fun here. But look
I want you to know that on this report where carry Cassidy has gone to prison to talk to mark richards
It's not devoid of real journalism
Okay at this point carry stumbles into a story that I don't think anyone's ever told
Uh, so mark has uh, as I said
talked a little bit about the um
The work he's doing in the prison and he also talked about
Very briefly race relations in the prison because apparently those are an issue
Uh, apparently whites and legumes
Are, you know separated by gangs
And uh, he's not allowed to be
like friends with um
a black prisoner
For example because the gang leaders don't allow it. Uh, he can be acquaintances with them, but here's a big scoop
Mark richards isn't in a white supremacist
Well, you gotta survive. No, I understand. I understand though, but still still man. That's wild
I love that she's shocked by that. She's like apparently there is a racial issue in prison
She's presenting herself as like a journalist who has like top secret
Intelligence sources and like the highest level of secret government and she and yeah
She's surprised by the idea of like there's segregation in prison. Okay. Have we considered this possibility?
Maybe she's never seen a movie or any tv. Yeah, nothing
She's never seen any televised or or any kind of entertainment. She's never read a boy
It's just all this so of course she believes everything it would be doesn't know people can lie
It would be tough for her to make first of all all the movie references that she makes
If that were the case and that second she just basically rattling off the plot of movies
That her inside sources tell her but again if she hasn't seen them if she's just getting this information
She doesn't realize that people can use creativity right in order to make up falsehood people are just conning. Yeah
Yeah, it's possible. It's possible
um
I'm not entirely sure but what I am sure about is
Something that has never been discussed in any of these other uh, mark richards episodes
Okay looked at or the possibility. I don't I don't know if you've heard about this. I like possibilities
I don't know when it comes to captain mark richards. I like possibilities
I don't know if you heard this jordan if you've ever heard this from any reputable source or
Disreputable source. Okay. I don't know if you've heard this but there is a chance
That there are secret underground android armies
He said regarding a possible army of underground
Androids belonging to the us in china. He doesn't think that they exist because cool me too. His reasoning is that
Had the battle reached ground level. We would already have lost nobody fights and equal. He says you always fight
When you have one step ahead
In terms of an advantage
No sense technologically
Now
Exactly. He said if we can't defend the planet from a ground invasion, it's too late
And uh, most of the battles in the secret space program therefore are are fought in the skies
Uh, some of this seems to be a bit contradictory because we do know
He's also saying that what's going on in the middle east is a battle to
Destroy a lot of underground bases belonging to retorts. Yeah, I don't think about that too much
Is a bombing campaign basically
So I think that I needed to talk more with him about that but
In the in the context of the two or three hour interview that I had
You know, we had a slew of questions and you know as we
Drill down then more questions occur to me. So
It's kind of like an ongoing story
You miss always the wrong question
You missed that last bit that she said it's kind of an ongoing story
It's kind of like he's making it up and telling it to me in these chunks over a long period of time
Because he's lovely. It's almost like he's some sort of serialized
entertainment
That I get like a like a boy's
Adventure mag from the
1920s, he doesn't want her to leave because otherwise he's just got Bach
In prison and that's a 40 year working relationship. That's not yeah, it's not your buddy. No, they still haven't become friends
No, absolutely not. There's probably gotta gotta have a very professional relationship with Bach and strict hierarchy between the two of them
I I think that moment officers can't fraternize with the the enlisted men. No, not a chance
Um, the that moment where she's like, it's kind of like a story that's playing out
Is one of the it's what the first of two times on this episode where Carrie just describes what lying is
Oh, no, it's kind of it's kind of like he's making it up as he's going along and
Obviously, he's not because he has an answer for all of these questions. Absolutely sure sometimes his answers are
Contradictory, right, but that's probably box false information. That's a disinformation campaign
That's purpose is like purposefully being run on her because you can't have you got to have some sort of deniability
Oh, no, it makes perfect sense. What what oh you got very excited
She talks about that all the time like I don't have any clips of it
But she talks about it all the time this idea of like plausible deniability
Oh, yeah
Is like why the secret space program allows mark richards to say these things because everyone already thinks he's a murderer
Right, who cares if he says this crazy stuff. That's all true. Oh, yeah
He's the only person who can get the truth out right, right? Yeah, that sort of article leaves me cold
I'm not charmed by that as as an argument. I think that's very stupid
But hey, I like it
I think also it's fascinating because any of these moments where Carrie like cuts through the clouds a little bit and is like
Hey, that's a contradiction is kind of fascinating because I mean, that's a huge contradiction. He's like massive
He's like if we can't fight them in space, it's all over. It's like well
Well, I mean, of course, we are fighting them on the ground. There's portals everywhere. They keep getting bombed. It's a goddamn
Poor idea
Anyway, so so the United States and China have a joint underground
Android army or they both have their own separate Android. It's a great question. He's never answered
I imagined they were separate and they were going to do battle
I see no that that's the that's the android army defense force against a ground invasion
You're probably right
That's the first instance of really good international cooperation that I can point to in recent times given context clues
I bet you're right, but it's never really specified. So I don't know Jordan. I got a question for you
Look like do they look more like uh, do they look like android like uh, like robot kind of things or do they look more like
Cyber cyborgs. They look like people probably cyborgs. Yeah
Like like that guy from uh mortal combat
Jax jax. Okay. Um, you know, you're you're a student of history. You like you like you like to know things
What was world war two about?
I ask you that question, you know what I think of i'm gonna find out
Yeah, I think everything you know is wrong. I think that might be the case
He said that there are
Again world war two was fought between four et races the nordics the reptoids the dracos and the greys
And then the human beings that's five and uh the battle of fine bar the nordics from al-debaran
Are the ones that helped the nazis, of course
He said the greys are always available to the highest bidder
And in this case the reps and nordics take control over that over them from what I understand
Cool. Cool. The reps she's she's even she's even got a little shorthand for it. Oh boy
Oh man, you get these reps over. Is that almost that's almost like a
Racial slang like the reps. Yeah, that's all that's fine with it
I don't know. I think in world war two that would be equivalent to calling them the jabs
Yeah, but I see that's that's an issue. Ah, that's racist. Ah, ah, they don't exist
That's not the point. I don't appreciate racism even within the false world even hypothetical fantasy racism
Fantasy racism, but you know even if you take the real world piece of it. This is kind of holocaust denial
This is the lightest of holocaust denial the nordics are the ones who are doing it
Right. I think that I think that accepts that white people are evil sort of takes human agency away from it a little bit
They were under the sway of the al-debaran
Goddamn grace. Yeah, absolutely. Oh
Fucking mercenaries. I mean that could be what world war two is about could be. I don't know entirely possible
I dropped out of high school before I finished ap history. So I don't know wait
Did she did she say that's what world war two was about or just who was fighting it?
That's what it was really. It was a power struggle betwixt the four
Uh alien races. We're gonna learn more about some of our wars a little bit later
We got it. We got a laundry list of wars to rewrite. We do pretty much all of them
Yeah, okay, but before we get there
This is like a do and punch up on history. That's what's going on here does make it a little more fun
Before we get to any of that stuff though, Jordan
Yeah
For uh, all the fans of the project camelot mark, uh, richards series
They know that his best friends are the raptors. Oh, yeah
He loves the raptor aliens, uh, which again, I feel like the reptoids may actually be the good right right in this fight
Because he is a murderer and a bad guy exactly his friends with the raptors. They must be bad
You kind of suggest that they have we've learned that they will eat you for a chocolate
You kill you for chocolate. You know what that's just that's acceptable. Right, right? That doesn't necessarily mean evil and
Instinct take over any of us and they might have been in Jurassic world
Yep, yep, and there's another update some background another update
I didn't get I didn't get the clip of this, but it turns out there's like a t-rex
Showcase that goes around and people see the animatronic t-rex. Yeah, I won't have you and is it like six raptors inside?
Of a t-rex? No, no, no, but there are raptors animatronics along with it too. Oh, of course
And uh, uh, mark richards is reporting that some of the real raptors are there and
Carrie is like if your kids, you know, if you guys want to go out and pet a real raptor
Makes me so sad that's I like that I like that a lot makes me so bummed out
Maybe this is just underground buzz marketing for maybe mark richards still has a he still has a
A part ownership stake
How well they I would be too surprised. I mean it is
Listen
We got to learn some more about raptors. Okay. Okay
He said that raptors prefer their food source to be hunted. Sure. So they like deer and elk
uh, and also that they have
um
What they basically did prior to the extinction of the dinosaurs is they took
Herds of dinosaurs off the planet to raise them as cattle on their own planet and
Okay, why would and they regarded?
Humans as a kind of caviar cool at this time as I've said in other interviews
They have decided to work with us. In fact, they fought alongside us. I guess in world war two
You guess or started to and saw that we were very good fighters
That helped to
Change their mind about us to some degree and they also uh, as I said, their queen
Decided the queen the best raptor queen trajectory for their race
In terms of its development into the future was to align itself with humans. So that's what they are doing now
Okay, of course makes sense. That's that's just good long-term planning
I would like to say that there's something that you probably didn't recognize that's implied by that clip
But I think just flies right onto the radar was that that is the dinosaurs are not extinct
They live in space now. Well, but but they're hunting deer and elk. So perhaps they uh, they farmed their own dinosaurs to extinction
Yeah, that's possible. That's that's uh, that's definitely in the in the which dinosaurs did they take? I don't know from which period
I don't know. Do they go with the cretaceous period the triassic? What are we talking about also their raptors?
Well, yeah, but that's that's not the point
It is the point
Also, if they prefer their meals to be hunted, why would you raise anything as cattle?
Well, there's that that's a big problem
But also if you are a raptor and you come from a planet where you know, you're raptors and you're super intelligent and like
Uh, you can you can speak and what have you you've mastered interstellar travel
Right
You hundreds of millions of years ago and yet your technology has not really advanced beyond that point
Well, I'm not I'm I'm not really concerned with that for the time being
Yes, I'm more concerned with the idea that like kerry seems to think that they came up on a planet with one species on it
Like they're they had to come to earth to get dinosaurs because there's no resources or other species on their fucking planet
I prefer to imagine they just stumbled upon the dinosaurs and we're like, holy shit. Look at you guys. You're like, you're like us
Chompa-chompa
It's like it's like we're looking in the mirror. Come on back. Come on. Come on home
So they told us that we're gonna take them out and we're gonna eat them
We're gonna farm them like right but in reality they were like we're gonna make them smarter
Okay, we're going to help them evolve on our planet
Safe from the meddling influence of meteors and humans. Well, yeah, you got to do that. Yeah, that's possible. I don't know
This is such bullshit. This is high level bullshit
But humans are caviar
Um, and do they put them on top of like a dinosaur patay? Like what are we talking about?
Cracker, you get a little patay and then a human. Yeah, I think so. Little dinosaur cracker. Yeah
I don't think the raptors are much bigger than humans. The idea that we're like caviar is absurd
I mean do you put a whole?
Is a whole human caviar? I can't imagine that's the case. Do they like what are we talking about?
Texturally, you don't want the head because that skull is a problem
And I know I know this much about raptors not very agile with their hands. No, no, they would not be good cooks
Uh, uh, you know
Everybody makes do I don't know. I think if you have almost non-functioning hands
It's gonna be tough to cook and if you prefer your meals hunted, right? It seems like cooking is out
Yeah, I also don't think that most
Like predatory animals even care about delicacies or like treats
I don't think they do. I think they like flood. Uh, that's that that is specious, dan
Uh, that is your specious and specious. Yes. So, uh, thank god the raptor queen is cool with us now and everything is good
They don't eat us except when they have chocolate that would we have chocolate they want?
So
If you have chocolate then you are both caviar and chocolate
Yeah, perfect. It's a treat on a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Had on a hat
Yeah, put a little gold leaf on there and you my friend are in business
Jordan, do you believe in teleportation?
Um, I've obviously good. What kind of teleportation? Well, you see that's there we go
You need to know that there's multiple ways to teleport there. I do know that okay
There are multiple ways. What do you think the multiple ways are?
Um, I guarantee you that they're not the same as mark richards
Well, one of them of course is to be broken down at the atomic level and transported instantly wherein you have to ask yourself the question
Am I still me or am I just another collection of particles that doesn't necessarily myself? The other I think is what?
Has to do with quantum tangling maybe something like that quantum entanglement
Yeah, like electrons can connect with each other across great distances. So that might be a thing
Yeah, mark's closer to your first one. Okay
And uh, teleporting and time traveling we talked about again the fact that there are two ways to teleport
One where you take your body
Your the atoms of your body and your soul
And in that case you have to have sort of a what is in essence a warp
uh
Field around the human
He said or you can take the body without the soul and in that case you're a facsimile of yourself. So
and uh
He said for 35 years
We couldn't figure out how to teleport a human with a soul because of that god damn school responds with
Sean david martin's recent release of his third book in his sands of time
books and uh, this was all about um
Sean was Sean has a whistleblower that does he he he turns it into fiction
But oh does he it's a whistleblower from the secret space program who was head of the area 51
And I I think heads of area 51
The the facility in
Uh, new mexico the thing of dulcet under the ground as well
And that person was in essence one of the top people in the secret space program who has also an android passed on his
Information to Sean to release his fiction. It's fiction interesting interesting. See i'm telling you
She's never actually read it or or it's it's all just like you but she's probably read that book
She ends up saying I recommend you read this book, but that's because she's reading it and thinking it's real
She's like, oh, this is all it's like this predictive programming argument is just like uh
I left that clip that clip played too long
But I did it mostly because she has to like deflect the idea that it's fiction twice
Yeah, you know like oh, yeah, he's got a secret source, but it's you know, it's presented as fiction
See now i'm now i'm genuinely curious
I've never considered about the soul when coming into teleportation arguments true
What so you can teleport somebody without the soul?
What's the soul doing then just hanging out? Yeah, I don't know. Is it a ghost?
I mean, well the implication is that the soul has matter
You know, like right it's a physical entity. Yeah, according to this this line of logic
It weighs like seven grams or whatever it is. So whenever you teleport without your soul
It must still be wherever you were
I like to imagine there's tiny little it like you teleport the body and then little dust packets just fall in
Whatever you walk into a spiderweb. That's some soul who got teleported away
Absolutely that wisp goddamn souls are all over the place. Yeah, it's pretty it's a mess
So
Jordan yes, you know eisenhower
Oh man, we're not personally raptor. No, not a raptor raptoid
We like to look back on the eisenhower presidency
We think a number of things most people remember
They don't trust the military industrial complex kind of very very well speech a lot of people remember him
On unfortunately being the beginning of the highway system that ended up destroying a lot of communities a little bit a lot of minority communities
Um, there's a lot of somehow that happened in america
There's a lot of things that people remember his presidency for but one of them that they've missed
What did they miss with the help of ai?
super
Stop it
Stop it with with the help of ai super intelligent ai be like ike's ai
Yep, okay with the help of ai eisenhower saved the world. All right
And he said one of the things that artificial intelligence has done on a positive side
Is they warned eisenhower in 1954 warned that the grays were going to double across the humans and try to take over
He said
As mark phrased it. He said ike was ready to give away the store
When uh, the ai basically warned him
That he was being deceived
So, uh, in essence that that they may have saved humanity at that juncture may maybe
Maybe
Your face. All right. It's so confused. All right just so
So, where's the ai? What are you talking about? Is it is it is there is was it a punch card computer?
Let me see. Let me play this next clip about ai and see if it gives you any information
I'm not sure that it would how did it talk to ike
Look here. Is there a go-between? Let's listen to this next. Let's see if this gives you some clues. Okay
He has an artificially intelligent
Friend no who he believes has a soul and we talked about ai's and souls
And the name of that being is flyer. Okay. He says he looks a lot like the ai in the movie
Battery's not included and he said there he um has a lot of esteem for this ai
And i think he just said he saw the movie battery is not included. That this ai flyer is part of a larger ai
Larger than itself that doesn't reside in this planet. Oh, okay, so it's ai that's on another planet that is mark richards friend
Right, it's his buddy named flyer
With the soul has a soul with a soul. No, no
He believes that it has a soul. You can't well you can't teleport. I mean you can't see if the soul is left behind
So who knows this is a lunatic she's talking to a straight
I mean if this guy wasn't it
She's a lunatic and she's talking to a guy who is bored if she's talking to a sociopath who is just
I need somebody to talk to if this guy wasn't in prison people will be chasing him with butterfly nuts quite frankly
This dude is nuts. I don't know where you're coming from with this trying to let him off the hook for being nuts
I'm not saying he's not nuts. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that from from this banana's nonsense
You can't be this crazy and you can't listen to this like if you're carry you can't
You can't believe this stuff without asking like really probing questions that would reveal like oh, you're just making all this up
You you are a murderer. Why do you call him flyer?
That's that immediately all questions are done because I like planes. I used to fly them for space command
Does he call himself flyer? Does he have a name? Why didn't he tell you his name?
What's his name?
Also, did he tell you that eisenhower was uh saved the world with the help of ai because if so that means that might be ai propaganda
Furthermore, is he the ai that helped ike in the first place could be where was the other ai?
It's should still be around. Is it a different ai?
I think ai is mostly immortal unless you turn it off, right? I don't know
These questions are not answered
Do you have a better grasp on ai than you did before that clip? Nope
Not even a little bit. Well, that is a damn somehow. There's a massive off-planet ai right of which flyer is a part
Which suggests that it's in reality just one kind of like what rhizome?
Theory nonsense going on right there where there's a collective information. It's a hallucination. No
Now I want it. Why do you always do that? Mark richards has screwed me
That's also possible no fresh fruit
I just I don't know all right call me a hater if you want if you bust
I just I just want to believe dad. I know look fox molder
So um this ai this flyer guy. Yep. Mark believes he has a flyer the ai he has a soul
Uh, it turns out there's another thing
There's another thing in uh, mark richard's life that shouldn't have a soul that does believe it has a soul
Is it just nice? Yeah, isn't it really nice? That could be it that would that might be his answer. Yeah, probably
It's always treating me with respect. Yeah
Downright soul-like behavior
Talked about minerva being different than other ai's. Hi minerva that she's created
By a race
a life forms
From a world that has long since been abandoned or died and she got bored and so she left and started exploring
He said she has a soul cool part because the beings that created her have a soul that doesn't make sense
That doesn't track at all his reasoning
His reasoning that's the way she ends that is that's
Long pause his reasoning which means that you probably don't really believe this
You know reason is not a part of this
I don't believe that having a soul, uh, if that is even a real thing, uh, allows you to imbue other things with souls
Also, even in fucking mark richard's fantasy world the reason that his ai spaceship that only he can fly
Is even hanging out with him. It's because she was bored. That's not great. You know what?
That's the first thing that's made any fucking sense this whole time
She's an immortal ai super powerful plane that can travel across
Star systems and his giant her and her race just died, which where'd you guys go? No, no, no, no
It was abandoned. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's probably gone, but it's not like they were all
Super smart chips
Yeah, yeah, no, no the people who built her. Okay. I
I misunderstood you who who built her and then imbued her with the the soul
I
Where was she when they were all?
Dying she was probably uh, so they all die
Assumably all of her other ai buddy planes died too
She's just hanging out kind of like floating because she doesn't need to touch the land
Maybe she was off on a mission or something like that or maybe she was off exploring
Maybe maybe she got bored before the culture went away. Right because I mean, I don't know
Or this is a planet of the ape situation
She flew too fast could very well be and then she came back to find out everybody was dead
It could be a time travel situation. Absolutely. Um, I don't know, but it's nice to hear about my nerve again
I'm glad that she's still in mark richards twisted fantasies
He's having while he spins away and gets crazier and crazier in prison. Yep
In his next clip, he talks about satan and his followers
Satanists, okay
He talked about cern and the death of this woman who is was in the news not long ago
He said that what they are doing at cern again is to open portals for the reptoids to allow them to big
Bring in large equipment. Sure. He said the satanists are working with them
And that this death was orchestrated by the satanists. That makes sense. Do you remember what this is talking about?
I believe this is whenever the higgs boson search was going on and people thought that it would create a black hole
Well, there's that but then there was also like a video that came out of some people doing like a little play acting in a courtyard
Where they uh acted like they were having a sacrifice of somebody
And I believe I don't even know if it was actually at cern or anything like that
But it was reported as like a ritual human sacrifice at cern
Of course, uh, and uh, kerry's really running with that and uh, so it's mark. That sounds right. Yeah
I I could tell you what I do know. I don't think it was a real murderer
Mark richards on the other hand
Anyway, you were taking you were jotting notes. I well, here's here's the first thing I think up
Did the reptoid how did they how did the satanists cern and the reptoids all get uh mixed up together
Where they had a networking event could be uh, do they do they have the same church youth group?
Like what are we talking about here? Uh, are the reptoids themselves satanist?
Because they can't think do they have a reptoid satan? I think they scoff at the very idea
Are you would hope I think that they think it's foolish to have these human gods
Yeah, but you can still you can still jump in with the satanists every now and again
Well, you like how that you like how they swing, you know, I'm saying throw them throw them one human sacrifice
Then you get the cern with portals. I love what exactly is the satanist's job in this whole situation
They are the humans who are running cern on behalf of the reptoid. Wait, so they're running cern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, I thought that they were a completely separate entity and that was just like that was
She made it sound like they were running interference. Like no cern is like we got to build we got to build this portal
We got to get this giant
Machine in for the reptoids those folks are our satanists
And I love the idea that they have to open a portal because there's big old machines. They got to bring that
Now if it was a small machine, you don't need a portal. No need for this transport that had run collider
Oh, absolutely. This is just such a like they're bringing in like kamatsu
Diggers in the end the lake. Yeah, this is such a delightful like way to exploit people's like just intrinsic fear of things
They don't understand, you know, it's just great
um machines
So, uh, we have we've noticed a trend in our studies of alex jones. He is a real soft spot for russia and putin
Uh
In tracking mark richards. Yeah, we've found that he is a lunatic
Right, but somehow mysteriously
He kind of gets some things like he's pro climate change. Yeah, he's he believes in a man-made climate change
Here is what happens when carrey asks him about putin
I then asked him about uh, what he thought about putin because i've had
Many people on the alternative sector often refer to putin as being somebody who is
In theory, um in contact with some nordic beings supposedly working
In a positive way on the planet. You take the nordic beings out of there. You're right at alex
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's secretly doing good stuff. He's he's christian. He's supporting nationalism
He's turned the nordics into a positive force as well since we were fighting against them
They were they were on the german side. So they so the nordics
So frankly putin is working with the people who caused the holocaust. Oh wait. Yeah, that's true
Yeah, that's exactly what she just said. That's not great. No, uh, anyway, let's see what mark says. Okay at this time
And mark felt that uh, the putin is not a good guy
He felt that putin would not even classify himself as such
putin is motivated to work on behalf of russia and himself
And that he is not out to help humanity in mark's view
He says he was being manipulated by the reptoids. Oh, he said that putin is not a reptilian. However, okay, that's good
I like I like the
See now, I like the idea of some
National security advisor who is dead on in interpreting foreign policy. It's just at the end of it. He's like, um, well
You can see that china has manipulated its currency in the past whether or not they're doing so right now is a questionable idea
I don't like I don't like their turn towards
Authoritarianism what with Xi Jinping taking over and becoming dictator for life
And the main reason I don't like that is because of the goddamn reptoids. It's because they're working for the draco
Yeah, exactly
All of his and all of his recommendations are what I mean, it's not like it's not like that's like what mark was doing
That's not even like spot-on analysis. No, it's just
Yes, the prime minister of a country is working for that country's interests or whatever
He's motivated because of the reptoids. Yeah, but he's being manipulated by the reptoids. It's just that that fall off
It's huge. I just I just it now. I just want a a like really really good
advisor who always gets the correct policy like hey, listen, here's why we don't go into iraq
It's going to create instability. It's not going to go. Well, we're just going to get bogged down in a mire for the next 20 years
And that's because there are so many fucking spiders there. Right. It's the goddamn spider queen
Who's going to ruin everything and that's why we shouldn't go into iraq. Absolutely and you're like, yes
Everything you said was right and I'm just going to ignore the last part spider stuff is just going to not be addressed
Yeah, you got it. Vietnam is a quagmire. Let me tell you why
Raptors, Dan. It's absolutely right. That's what it is. You hold that you put a pin in that
That's right. We're rewriting all wars. Yeah, we're going to get to Vietnam here in a little bit. Okay, of course, of course
So right now
In alex jones world. He has his uh, his obviously fake intelligence source zack
Who comes on and tells them things and and recently he made the proclamation that this is a war for mars
That uh, they're trying to get us back on the planet as opposed to going off planet
Which is a little bit of a a slip, you know, that's something that doesn't belong on
Uh, a odd spot odd spot for it and now listen to this clip
And he also wanted to say in all fairness that both the us and russia are being uh
manipulated to to try to keep them apart and also to try to keep them
From uh going into space
We have a literal parallel in a narrative
Just with one uh in the project camelot world
They bring in reptilians and raptors and stuff like that instead of globalist, but it's the oh and kerry does use the word globalist on this episode
That's true. I I don't hear her say that too often, but yeah, she was dropping globalist. All right
So yeah, man, this is so crazy to me. It's like this is so close
It's one to one parallel. Well, yeah trying to keep us from going off planet
Yeah, but even though we are already off planet considering that's where we fight all of our wars
We have space command out there having battles on mark. We have super soldier randy kramer living uh fighting
Alien beings on a martian planet or some and we have been off planet
Before mark richards was even born absolutely. So why why the fuck like what what?
The only thing that could really be saying is like he doesn't they don't want to have space tourism
I guess that's what they're saying. They don't want us to build a highway. Right. That's just what ike did right see
Can't be having that it's very it's very stupid
You gotta keep us off planet. They gotta keep us on planet
The biggest point though is that according to all of their narratives. I mean you perfectly pointed it out
We're way off planet. Yeah already with the secret space program
So uh, hey getting us in russia to fight not going to achieve the goal of keeping us on planet
Didn't seem to work like that. No, especially what's china doing?
They have their underground, uh, android army. Well, yeah, but we got ours to counteract sure sure
So you uh, you might think that mark richards probably spends most of his time in prison hanging out with bach
Uh, given putting him on assignment. Yeah, maybe taking meetings with raptors, uh, you know taking some doing some real serious business
I assume maybe remote viewing gonna have a lunch maybe doing some astral projection
Just high end stuff in vockeville. Yeah, you know sometimes kerry comes to visit
You might be surprised to find out that he has a weekly ritual. Oh, no
Another thing we talked about is that he watches meet the press every sunday. He says the show makes him angry
Um, one of the reasons is the host he feels he's quite obnoxious and I guess in essence trying to
Get people off track. Um instead of reveal the truth
And uh, so that was kind of an interesting aside. No, it's not. It's not
That that just that just turned into and another thing
Meet the press is fucking stupid. I hate that you're getting raptors are all over the place
But before I go any further on that that fucking guy will meet the press
He is a dick
You're getting the sense that maybe the real flavor of it if you had a recording is a rambling. Yeah madman is like
Is like that old man who's pissed off like what why don't you stop watching it then it makes you angry stop watching
What are you doing? Well, I
Okay, all right the raptors are
There's so many before I go any further. I got a digress
Whoopee shouldn't be on the view. I'm telling you this right now. I like bayhar now
But uh, what is her face? Megan mccain. Come on. What are you doing in there? That's already had a hassle back
That's nepotism right there, right
So, uh, I don't know what's happening in this next clip, but I know something he says something weird
I don't know how to set this up enjoy
When he talks about how another planetary system
Would relate to the earth and when they say, you know earth are they talking about
You know humanity in general or or what and he said that they are actually
talking about
Humans, uh, the secret space program the united nations
okay, uh
Governments and our allies which has to do with the raptors the nordics various nordic races
We are holocaust causing lord as well as the reptoids and the ant beings
So he said that we are viewed as as sort of a
A conglomeration of these elements when other
Races are dealing with us from our planet
So that's very interesting
Yeah, it is so so what she just said there is uh people who are dealing with earth when they call it earth what they mean is
Everybody on earth. I think so. I think she just said literally everybody on earth. Jordan. You're bearing the lead ant people are now
But I know that they're ant beings. I think they're still just ants
I don't know ant beings. I think they're still just ants. I don't know if we've encountered ant beings in our uh, in our
There's so many fucking aliens
Are they
It's never pointed out their size right again. I think it's just regular ants. I just think he's talking about ants
He can't just say ants. He can't just be like, oh, you know the reptoids the raptors the nordics
And ants he's got to say
He's got to say ant beings because you can't just
Can't just drop ants in there. You read a time life book about ants. They're crazy. They can lift so much
Oh, yeah, these ant beings. Oh, did you know that ant colonies they can consider some of them to be uh continental now?
Ant colonies are huge there. Yeah, yeah, you definitely have to negotiate with them. Oh coming in
Of course, I would say that ant beings are going to have a tough time with spider leadership
But you know what so have we
Ha ha ha
But just the leadership, I think the spiders as a people are really wonderful. You're a damn fool
It's like a it's like a ayatollah komeini situation. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. Okay. All these spiders are bad news
They're real bad news and it turns out where's the black dragon queen blowing fire
I think that's a metaphor. I don't think she's actually a dragon metaphor. Okay
I don't have that clip in here because other than her saying that britain is under the sway of the black dragon queen
Right, the actual sentence is not fun past that. Oh, but here is where we learn about the truth
of vietnam
Okay, I don't think you're ready for it. I'm not
The war in vietnam was not really what we thought it was
Of course not that there was an et race that we were having dealings with there and that wasn't the main
Reason for the war in vietnam. That's actually what I thought and so we talked about
What is in essence an invasion that happened and that vietnam was not about
So-called the spread of communism
That it was actually about an invading race of spider beings
who
And originally came to our planet
in
war times
And anchor watt is an area of cambodia
Um that has these really amazing temples and structures
Those are still standing but the humans that were part of that civilization
Of which they were apparently over a million
Uh disappeared virtually overnight and there was no trace of them heat by spider. It's always been a mystery and he said that what happened was
These spider beings that are the size of what he says are bw bugs what he says are bw bugs those cars
It uh, basically invaded through the stargates because there's a very
He said a vast system of stargates
And portals in the area of southeast asia then why do you need sir and he said they what they first did with the humans there is to
Mind control them into thinking they were out of water when in reality they had a river that flows through the area
Okay, and then once they were weakened by that mind control
Um and lack of water they then came in and decimated them using a a microwave weapon
And uh after that they basically ate I guess ate them and so he says that uh
This this is what he was telling me. Um
I think some of those steps are basically they
There is no trace of the humans and no trace of of anything at this point. No trace of spiders either
Really happened there. So he said that race of beings is called the troggs
Okay, okay the troggs. Of course gotta get the troggs in there. I was dumb to laugh. It's the troggs. You all know about the troggs
So why
Why are you mind controlling them microwaving them and then eating them? You're the size of a vw
Band it's a very it's a very bizarre thing and this is thousands of years ago
It's a very bizarre thing that if you're able to mind control
An entire population in order to implant the thought in their head while you just have them kill themselves
Yeah, well, but then they're not fresh and then you got a microwave them to go to get you know to cook them a little bit
Fine then mind control them to sit down and then hit them with a microwave weapon
But then they'd still be ready to run. No microwaves come. It doesn't work that way
It's not like they put a microwave next to them and they got tumors or something like that. No a microwave weapon
You can't run from that
Cooks everything
Man, do you know what? Here's my position. Here's my here's my position. This is cowardice
That's what this is as a narrative. This is cowardice. Yeah, that's true
Because it's such an explanation of like trying to pretend that humanity doesn't do horrible things to each other
You know, you're like no it was it was invading spider beings that mind controlled them to think they didn't have water
And then they ate them. I thought you were talking about cowardice on the part of the spiders
Give us a fair fucking fight front until attack or nothing. Don't don't be pulling this mind control shit
Right miraculously no one's ever seen a spider being
Wow
Anybody anybody who has
They got mind controlled not to tell the tale. I forgot actually part of her narrative is and they died of thirst
Part of her narrative is that everybody who was fighting in vietnam has had their brain wiped
And that's how a lot of ptsd is
Checked out. Yeah, happening was because of mind wipes. Yep
And that's why we don't need to fund the va dan, which I think is spiders will mind wipe us
I think that's kind of the plot of men in black two or three
Isn't it where they like you get cancer from having your brain erased too many times or something?
Isn't that part of men in black? Eh, who knows? I saw one. I saw two. That was enough
Yeah, fair enough. So we got two more clips here. This is where kerry really like
You want her you want her to turn face? You know what I'm saying?
You want her to become a hero, but she's just so there's no redemption arc. Huh?
She's so oblivious and so just like
Invested at this point because it's been like five times. She's gone and interviewed him and he said stupid shit
And it's like I I need him to be a source because without him
I don't have a whole lot of of sources that I rely on. Yeah
And she can't just make it up on her own. No, that would be bad journalism
That's you can't do that. No, not like everybody does. Yeah, so here's one clip where it's like you just you want to shake her just wake up
Uh, he again
What I told you before which I said earlier, which is that he is getting written directives on how to answer me
And it's true that he rarely carry your pigeon when I ask him any questions
Obviously his mind works very quickly, but he says sometimes he does struggle to figure out whether or not
he's been told to tell me something or not when I get particularly close to uh
With one of my questions buying time you are describing a lion. Yeah, that's all that is
It's called it's called buying time
It's a very convenient way to not answer questions that you can't figure out how to work into your life by being like
Now there's things I've been told I can't tell you of course and that way it could be like
Nets are you're across the line? I I don't have an answer for that
Or or if you just can't think on the fly quick enough to be like, huh?
Let's see if that violates what I'm supposed to exactly buying fucking time. Right. It's so clear as day. It's it's
Just wake up
I prefer whenever she says
Um, he did not confirm this, but he did give me a little uh side eye to let me know
I think that he is confirming
Exactly what it was that I asked and he's mad about meet the press. That's what the side eye also says
The dutchman the dutch that's who it is. That's the dutchman. The dutchman is his dad. Yes. Yeah
Um, oh man, that's even worse than I imagined. Yeah, so we got this carry is describing lying quite literally
Yeah, uh in her interactions with him and now we get again. She doesn't even understand what lying is
She doesn't get it. No, it's sad
So we get to this last clip and it's another one of those where she's like, you really should you should wise up young lady
I asked mark why he's still in prison
Because it really astounds me with all his abilities and information his his um, he's such a key player
and he in essence said that
His influence and contacts in the universe
Would uh threaten the powers that be that are in charge right now and that he is their enemy
He says that he could probably garner
Enough was uh enough support to take them down and they know that
And this is really the clearest statement he ever made about being in prison
Which is interesting to me. It is interesting
That is interesting
Why are you still in prison? You're a major player in the entire universe and you're a hero and you you have friends
Who are all these powerful space races now and some of them have uh, they they've been the reason
We've had wars that have been horribly traumatic to the united states and the rest of the world as a whole
Why are you in a medium security prison that you can't get out of with the help of raptors or spiders?
Well, let me answer that question
first off by saying
I am their enemy right they want me gone and that is because I am so powerful. I mean frankly
I could probably get enough support to destroy your entire global democracy or whatever it is you guys think you're doing
But I'm in a medium security prison
So even though I talked to literally everyone in the fucking universe right I get orders
from I I mean yes
Of course, I could
Destroy the entire system. Sure. Yeah, but I but I can't I could get the support I need
To save everybody and have a happy ending for the world easy
But I cannot get the support I need to break out of this
Rinky dink prison now that I know
Now I was visited by Minerva an artificially intelligent
Interstellar aircraft right only I can fly and it was somehow defeated by these four walls
If Minerva flew over let's say with a raptor in tow. Yeah raptor comes down
Breaks mark out a prison jumps back up into Minerva. Yeah
It does not seem hard. It's a slam dunk. Yeah, that's so easy
Compared to the other stuff he's describing that would be a cakewalk breaking out of jail. Yes. Okay. Yeah
Uh, it would almost be like, uh
Being a background extra in Jurassic world. It's very very easy. It's very easy
Hard or let's be even more clear like in mark richards world like astral projection is a thing
That's real. Uh-huh. Why he shouldn't it shouldn't even matter that he's in prison. He should be able
I'm out. My body is in here, but I'm out all the time
Why not? He should be able to astrally project and be in studio with carry right
Question it's one of the most powerful people in the world. He's a major player. Of course. Yeah
Maybe he was teleported one time without his soul without his soul. Oh, that's a great point
See, there we go because he was saying that 30 for like for 35 years
If you don't have a soul, you can't break out of prison. No, that's just a scientific fact. That's true
Yeah, you gotta have soul. You gotta be super bad
To get out of prison. Yep. That's what that song was about, right? I think probably
So this brings us to the end of another exploration of mark richards deceitful ass
In curiosity having no idea what to do with it. Dan, what have we learned? Well, we've learned a little bit. I mean
First of all, no war is what we think it is, but I think we had a hunch that was the case already
Nordics caused the holocaust, but Putin's cool with them. Yeah, Eisenhower and AI saved the world in the 50s
That's cool. Still questionable where that AI came from and what it's doing now
The only thing that I'm really super and all you there's artificial intelligence and all you have it doing is running some analysis
Just like grays are bad. I think grays might be where I think they're gonna betray us
Do you mean the thing that you could have just sussed out whenever you found out they were mercenaries to begin with?
That's their whole thing. Yeah. Yeah
They're backstabbers. This could this is their job. This is bad. Like this AI could be like the most rudimentary AI ever
We have no proof from what it said that it's some sort of like, oh, yeah, this is it couldn't be kasparov
It's a chest. I'll tell you that right now
This is not a deep thinking
I think the most important thing that we learned is that there is at least one instance that we found of
the narrative of
Project camalot and mark richards being identical to something that one of alex jones' fake sources
That's true is pitching as his so that's fascinating to me. But anyway, I think the most important thing I learned was that
The people who built ancor watt
Were eaten by spiders after being after being brainwashed and microwaved. Yes
again
Want to know what that microwaving was. I think it's I think it's fast like
Mark richards has so much to give
You know the scholarship
Did they put the microwave weapon on the back of one of the spiders?
Did they have it because I can't imagine where the spider's holding it like a gun. They don't have hands
Do they did they
Create guns. It's like dino riders. They have like a microwave gun on there. Yeah, see there we go spiders barely have heads
Look dude, I don't know I I will say I don't believe it
If that helps, I suppose it sounds like bullshit. Well, uh, but anyway, this has been fun
Oh, those ant beings. Oh, it just ants. They're just ants just ants
Um, we're back. We're back with a new episode about alex jones shortly, but I wanted to take a little break
Because you need to sometimes uh spiders. This has been fun. I don't know why it is
The only narratives that I like the raptors and the reptoids. I'm over it, man
I'm over it. Somehow the spider leadership never fails to get me. Well, now that we know there's such
Like ruthless spiders. Oh, yeah, they're they're take no prisoners and they have mind control technology
Which I don't think the raptors have I think they just evolved with mind control
I think that's an intrinsic characteristic of the giant vw spider
Well, if that was what he was going to do then you should have gone like with those wasps
Because you know, there are those wasps that can like lay eggs in you and control your brain or whatever. Oh, yeah
Or like the uh the fungus that makes ants crawl ant beings crawl up and then it bursts out of their heads or whatever
Yeah, yeah, well, you could have got something like that instead of spiders, but spiders are a much better visual
Yeah, it's far scarier a spider with mind control. That's a scary thing. That's a mess. Yeah. Yeah, something that's not scary
That's a mess. Yeah, that's a whole mess is what that is
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Quite frankly and now that we're at the end of it. I feel comfortable admitting it
We'll be back fresher than ever
Absolutely. Yeah, but in the meantime, let me tell you something. Oh boy. Go fuck yourself nordics
Wait a second. You can't tell an entire race. Hey, if you cause the holocaust
That's fair. I'll give it to you. Yeah
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