Knowledge Fight - #154: April 23, 2018
Episode Date: April 24, 2018Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the April 23rd episode of The Alex Jones Show, and about how sick he is getting of how boring the show is in present day. The gents talk a little bit about Alex's new...found love of Kanye West, they find two instances of Alex admitting he often has no idea what he's talking about, and someone may do a spit-take.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages,
and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are, Dan.
Yes, hello.
Dan.
Yes, sir.
If, say, you had never seen this show before or heard this show before.
Right.
And you were just walking down the street.
Suddenly, you will cost you yourself, Dan.
Hey, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro.
Yeah. Yeah. What's your show about?
I would say that I know a lot about Alex Jones, and I have this friend who's a
very nice man. And that's not true.
He's cool. We have a good time together, but he knows nothing about Alex Jones.
Is that a positive or a negative?
I think it's a positive.
And so I sit around and explain it to him, and that's the show.
And there, and we find...
Fun?
Existentialism?
Exactly. So today, we're going to be going over the April 23rd, 2018,
episode of the Alex Jones Show.
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But more than that, we're going to be talking about how I'm sick of the
bullshit, and I'm frustrated with Alex Jones in the present.
All right.
And I don't want to do this anymore.
Oh, no.
Not the show.
Oh, no.
Not the show, but we get to this point over and over and over.
We got a cliffhanger right now, ladies and gentlemen.
No, we're going to continue doing the show.
I get to this point over and over and over again in the last year and a half,
we've been doing this, where it's like, I just hate him in the present,
and I can't deal with it anymore.
And we are right about there.
Yeah.
So I don't know...
I think you're on about a three month cycle.
Yeah. I think I'm bipolar in terms of Alex Jones's present.
A little bit.
I still can enjoy him in the past, but the present, fuck, man, it's bad.
But something that's not bad is a couple of new donors.
I got to give a shout out to you.
Silky transition.
I still got that game down, baby.
Yep. Yep.
So first, I'd like to give a shout out to new donor, George.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you so much, George.
George Stephanopoulos.
We got some things to talk about.
He's a newsman.
Your interview style is wanting.
We appreciate Stephanopoulos getting on board.
Also give a shout out to new policy wonk, Robert.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you so much, Robert.
Robert, uh...
Gerst from the Jinx.
I was going to go with Blake.
Somehow we both picked murderers.
So there's that.
The most...
One of the most common names.
We both chose murderers.
I don't think we're doing great at this life thing.
No, not at all.
That says bad things about us.
I also like to give a shout out to a new globalist.
What's going on out there, Rebecca?
I'm a policy wonk.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much, Rebecca Romain.
Are you still a Stamoser?
I do not think so.
I don't think we're Stamos anymore.
No more hyping?
I think she lost the Stamos.
See, this is why...
She's like the Beach Boys of models.
Yeah, there you go.
She lost the Stamos.
Kicked out.
Actually, I don't know if that's true, but I assume it is.
I don't know if it's true either.
Stamos could still be an active member of the Beach Boys,
for all I know.
That's entirely possible.
Yeah, it's possible.
It might just be on the injured reserve, something like that.
Is that a band thing that they have?
Yeah, absolutely.
When you...
They put you on the 10-day DL?
When you twist your bongo hand.
Uh-huh, your bongo hand.
Yeah, exactly.
So you have one more...
I can only play the bongos with one hand.
We have one more person to give a shout out to,
one more new donor, someone who took their donation,
bumped it up to technocrat level,
and we appreciate it.
Oh, sir, very much.
Thank you very much, Cody.
I'm a policy wonk.
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone...
Someone, Sotomize, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser little, little titty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much, Cody.
Thank you so much, Cody.
Nothing makes me happier than here in the full clip.
What do we got?
What do we got for Cody?
That's your bit.
I don't got nothing for Cody.
Cody Rhodes, the great wrestler and brother of gold dust.
Why would I remember Cody Rhodes?
Cody Rhodes taken over the independent circuit
after leaving the WWE because they made him
be a character called Stardust.
It was not very interesting and a ripoff
of his brother's character.
No, no, no, no.
And son of the American dream, Dusty Rhodes.
So Cody Rhodes was Stardust and his brother was Gold Dust.
Well, his brother was Gold Dust for like 20 years
and then he made his Cody's character Stardust.
And it was terrible.
That was much later down the road.
That's a bad idea.
But his dad was the American dream, Dusty Rhodes,
who is one of the most quotable, very chubby wrestlers.
And he's the best.
He's delightful.
I don't want to hear any stories about how
he's a terrible man because it's very, very possible.
Please, no.
Yeah.
Chances are he was a terrible man.
In that era, the idea of a pro wrestler who wasn't,
that's why I have not heard any news
about Chris Benoit since 1997.
Don't anybody tell me anything.
You don't want to hear any bad news?
I don't want to hear any bad news.
I have some good news he cared about his dog.
I don't know.
I might be referencing something I don't even understand.
But be that as it is.
All right.
Jordan, today we're going to get to this episode.
And I am, like I said, I am sick of the shit.
Yeah.
I am just tired of it.
Right.
I got no time for him blowing hard forever about his oppression.
You're doing your second tour in NAMM.
Basically.
That's what you're feeling right now.
I got stopped.
You're just, you're just, yeah, it's terrible.
I thought I was coming home when he fucking turned on Trump.
I thought I was going to get back to my wife's stateside.
And then they said, no, sir, get back on the C-130.
You're going back in country.
No good.
And I just, oh, I'm just sick of it because now he's doing,
he's back to the exact same sycophantic,
like Trump is a great man kind of stuff already.
That's sad.
Yeah.
It's a disgrace.
That's disappointing.
It is.
But then beyond that.
I think that's a big issue.
It's just the massive letdown.
Like I think we would have been a lot, it's like,
it's like we were, we were at this level of just like,
nothing is going too far in either direction.
And then you throw that like, that tremor in there.
And all of a sudden, for the high we had whenever he was gone,
there must be an equal and opposite low where he jumps
right back on the fucking train.
Well, I mean, I think, I think part of it,
I have to wrestle with my own, like it's me.
It's my fault.
No, it is.
Because my brain wants a narrative, you know,
like all of our brains are trained to hope for storylines.
This is the reason we reference like a hero's redemption
or any of these Joseph Campbell type things.
And I'm like, I want there to at least be a third act,
you know, and not just a repeat of the second act.
You know, there is a crisis that has come through.
There's a moment, there's a coming to Jesus moment
where he's drunk on air telling us
that Donald Trump puts ISIS up his dirty asshole.
And we think, still so good.
We think that there's going to,
now there's going to be a certainly no redemption
is available, but you at least think it's going to change.
Fucking doesn't.
It drives me nuts.
And that's a very avant garde play.
Well, and then the other thing is that
half the goddamn show is him just complaining
about getting sued.
And like, I know that I complained about this
and predicted it months ago,
when he was just going to go with like a boring,
angry Lenny Bruce mode.
And that's saying angry Lenny Bruce mode is, you know, yeah.
And it's just, it is this like...
Late career Lenny Bruce angry.
It's just fucking nonsense.
It's so much I'm oppressed.
These people who are suing me
are going to undo the First Amendment.
It's just talking points over and over and over again.
And it's like, dude, you don't understand,
these are the consequences of your actions.
Now, whether these suits are misguided or not,
they do come from a place of like,
you do probably deserve to have some sort of a consequence
for your behavior.
They might be...
Legally, maybe you can get off it in technicality.
Spiritually, you deserve all the worst things
that these could bring.
Yeah, exactly.
And so I'm just, I'm like, it's like,
it's the stationary version of banging my head against a wall
because I'm just sitting here watching this shit and like,
don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
And it's even tough for me to get it up for new stuff.
You know, like, we're going to get into it here in a minute,
but like, he talks about Kanye West.
That should be fun.
I can't get excited about it.
Oh, no.
So anyway, let's just jump into some of these clips.
I'm so sorry, Dan.
This isn't to say that this show is going to suck
or anything like that.
We have some fun things to talk about,
but like, you might, hey, you might find me back in 2008,
2009 for a bit.
Yeah.
I think that's a smart idea.
You might not find me in the present.
I think that's a smart idea.
I might have to take a little break.
Right now, you're, you're mirroring his energy.
You're, you're even bitching about how boring he is.
I'm sure he's feeling the same thing.
He's just going off on the same boring nonsense that he has.
He, this is a man who thrives in chaos.
Yeah.
And instead he's pinned down against the wall and he hates it.
And tomorrow's my birthday.
And so my gift to myself is ignoring Alex Jones in the present.
That is wonderful.
Or at least sort of trying to ignore him in the present.
I apologize to the chair.
I do not have an out of context drop from today's episode,
but there is some fun stuff.
So let's just do this.
Here is the first clip.
This is how Alex Jones decides to start off the show.
Ladies and gentlemen, the new counterculture is Renaissance.
The Renaissance has started more than 500 years ago with the Gutenberg press in Europe.
What?
Is now back.
Oh, shit.
And where did it go?
Jordan Klepper and the opposition, I'm told, I talked to Paul Watson this morning,
attacked Paul for saying that conservatism is the new counterculture.
Well, probably because that's dumb.
And they said, that's ridiculous.
The Republicans control the house, the Senate, the executive and the judicial.
Yeah.
That's a good point.
But they don't control any of Hollywood, any of the mainstream media.
They don't control the colleges that almost to a college
are globalist and socialist and anti-human, anti-family, anti-Christian.
They don't control a single of the giant tech companies.
Really?
Media and money and power on this planet is globalist.
That Amazon is authoritarian, masquerading as leftist and neoliberal.
That is a incontrovertible.
I do not like that someone taught him the word neoliberal.
I don't like somebody taught him the word incontrovertible.
Here's an example, Newsweek.
Why hasn't Melania Trump been on the cover of any magazines
since becoming First Lady?
They asked last week.
She's been dead for 12 years.
It's because she hasn't been approached because she's seen as a polarizing figure.
As if Michael Obama wasn't a polarizing figure.
What?
I'm just joking.
So, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Do you like that?
Just joking.
Just joking.
He realized that he-
Why does everybody have to be mean to me?
He kicked into one of his old bits about Michelle being a man.
And man's like, I'm just joking.
I don't want to do another lawsuit.
Yeah.
I understand it's the season of the lawsuit.
And I could probably, I don't know.
I think that one might have more legs than a lot of these other ones.
That could at least be something.
I don't know.
Again, it's just lame.
You're struggling.
It's just lame.
But the other thing too is-
This is so much like the comic who is-
This is like Tim Allen going to an underground show now
where he's like, why don't my old bits work?
So, I've looked into a little bit of like the reason why Melania isn't on a bunch
of covers and why Michelle Obama was.
And here's a couple of the reasons-
Because Michelle Obama radiates joy and elegance and is an amazing figure
who is working hard to make the world a better place.
And Melania is a trapped woman held inside of an ivory tower waiting to be pushed over
and then she will fall and crumble before our very eyes.
That's an interesting theory.
I can't prove that one way or the other, but there's probably some spiritual truth there.
It turns out like she used to be a model and there's some talk that she might not have great
relationships remaining with a lot of the people who are in the fashion industry
who are involved in dressing people for covers of magazines.
So, it's entirely possible that there's some sort of inner workings of the fashion world?
She was a dick to fashion people?
I don't know if that's true, but I have seen that speculated by-
It sounds right.
Sure. And there's also the issue of right after the election she was on the cover of Vanity Fair
and the picture that they ended up using was of her with a string of diamonds in a spoon
and her treating it like it was spaghetti.
And I think that turned some people the fuck off.
It might have a little- that might be a bit of a let them eat cake moment.
Now again, that might not be her fault.
She might not have created that cover, but whatever bad will that gained
certainly still lingers.
Then beyond that, Michelle Obama was incredibly active with a bunch of causes
that she was in these magazines to help promote.
So, she's on the cover of women's health and stuff like that because
she is interested in talking about dietary issues.
And so like that-
In order to make the world better.
And she is interested in that.
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Meanwhile, Melania Trump has chosen cyber bullying and bullying as her main campaign.
Did she?
Yeah, that's one of the things that she said that she's-
Is she really doing anything though?
Like, I feel like her only goal right now is to not spend any time with Trump at all.
No, true, but that's the issue that she has spoken of.
Like, this is an issue I want to work on.
It's like, you're doing nothing and your husband is a big old cyber bully.
Yeah, I know.
That is projection on a level that I am behind by.
So, a lot of the-
Hey, you know what?
If you want to start with the big cause, start in your own home.
That's all I'm saying.
If you want to stop cyber bullying and bullying,
you're getting cyber bullied and bullied by your husband.
Stop that shit.
Divorce him.
I want a divorce of a sitting president.
That'd be weird.
That would be bananas.
I would love it.
But I think that a lot of the magazines-
President loses half of his shit in a no fault divorce state.
Love it.
And because of that, all those documents become public.
Yeah, that's right.
We learn not to have anything.
Oh, yeah.
But I think that a lot of the goodwill in the magazine covers
that Michelle Obama was on does trace back to advocacy.
And it does trace back to being involved in things that people wanted to talk about.
Right.
And I don't really know if Melania's involved in all that much,
that people will find that interesting.
Well, and she's a very interesting person to talk to and be around.
Michelle is brilliant.
She's a brilliant woman.
And that's not to say that Melania isn't.
I don't know.
It is.
You don't know that.
You don't know her.
I do.
You don't know where she's probably at the light.
She's not.
You don't know that.
I know that.
You don't know that.
Come on.
You don't know that.
What are the odds?
She is a blank canvas upon which all can paint their own perceptions.
She married Trump for money.
That's what you paint on her with her blank canvas.
No, that's called science.
That's math.
Anyway, in this next clip, we learn that Alex Jones-
I may not have gotten a degree in one of the STEM fields,
but my humanities training teaches me that she is married to him for what would you call it?
Comfort.
Sure.
Not affection.
Perhaps.
So I'm guessing, since your gentleman likes hip hop,
that you've been keeping up with the affairs in the world of one Kanye West.
Nope.
No.
No.
Good God, no.
I don't want anything to do with Kanye West in real life.
I want his albums.
I want his good shit.
He's been tweeting a lot of vague pseudo-spiritual self-help.
I know.
I have been trying to avoid it studiously.
A lot of it is very specifically,
if you spend any time in theosophist circles or parapsychology-type worlds,
or even human potential-type groups or anything like that,
you'll recognize a lot of these sentences that don't mean anything but sound profound.
There's a lot of stuff like that.
And I question everything was one of this.
It's that platitude of-
In order to grab things, you need to let them go.
And dancing is only stepping while walking, that's what that is.
The appearance of depth without doing any work to get there.
And that's sort of shit.
And then he also tweeted at this young lady named Candice Owens.
Sure.
That makes sense.
He loves how she thinks.
And she's a big old Trump supporter.
And she's been on In For Wars a number of times.
And I don't like how she thinks.
I don't understand.
Who gives a fuck?
Kanye is insane.
Yes.
That's why he's a genius.
I've been saying this, I think everyone's been saying this for years.
Yeah.
He is a lunatic.
Why are we doing this?
Yeah.
Why would you take it?
I've read it.
I've read a couple of these articles that are like, uh-oh, Kanye is supporting that.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Right.
His, what his brain does is irrelevant.
Yeah.
Whenever he's talking, don't.
If you don't want to, if you're just supporting him.
Even having this music, don't.
Also, Beyonce absolutely should have won that.
Taylor Swift can go fuck yourself.
She's best album of all time.
Yeah.
So anyway, here's Alex saying-
So he's right on one thing.
Here's-
And George Bush does not care about black people.
So he's got two under his belt.
Alex might agree with that also.
He seems to have forgotten about that though.
But here's him talking a little bit about his newfound feelings about Kanye on the 23rd.
Kanye West.
I don't like him saying those words.
I really like the Kardashians and all that stuff.
So I just said I didn't like him years ago because I didn't follow him.
Now that I've actually followed him the last few years and what he does with Trump and
now he's standing up for different journalists and activist, embraces,
black Trump supporter that we've had in the broadcast many times.
And I'm going to try to get on today.
So he just said, yeah, now that I see him doing this, I'm going to do it.
But you'll notice in that specific clip, he said,
all I knew about was the Kardashians.
I didn't really know anything about him.
So I just hated him.
I didn't really look into it.
I just thought he was a shithead because I didn't know.
That's a cultural shorthand.
I think a lot of us indulge in it from time to time.
Yeah, I think a nice little look.
If it's to do with the Kardashians, I'm out.
Guilt.
Just a big out.
But it's also like you're supposedly a guy who's like deep into truth.
And you're admitting on air that you engaged in a game of guilt by association
without knowing anything about the person.
Now, also, I guarantee he would not like Jesus.
No, also, he does.
He does say that.
Like I've listened to his music.
It's great music.
Yeah, come on.
Kanye has a song called I am a God.
Man, the blood on the leaves.
Like, come on, he samples blood on the leaves, dude.
You can't even, you can't be a white nationalist and even hear that song.
It just comes across like the parents and rug rats or whatever.
Or no, Muppet babies.
It's complete lunacy.
The idea that he like is like, I listen to it.
I love his music.
Like, go fuck yourself.
So anyway, just for fun, because a lot of, I've seen a lot of people.
Yeah, what's your favorite album?
What's your favorite album?
What do you think?
No, no, no.
What do you think Alex Jones' favorite album would be?
I bet he maybe heard Jesus Walks.
Maybe.
Right.
Right.
Because it's like, oh, Jesus in the title.
Let's check this out.
Yeah.
That's on brand for me.
I don't know.
That's on brand.
I would guess it probably hasn't.
Now I think Alex only listens to music that's on brand to him.
Probably.
Just always have Jesus in the title or old fucking country.
Yeah, that's not, you could, you could do worse.
Yeah, so a lot of people on Twitter have posted, and I've seen like reposts of,
like there's an article that Alex did about Kanye being in the Illuminati a while back.
Kanye was in the Illuminati for a time.
But that's something that he's pretty consistently said.
And I don't think that's very interesting as a receipt on him.
Right.
And so here's a clip of Alex talking about Kanye West in June 2016.
There's a special place in hell for these people.
And I don't care if it's Jay-Z or Kanye West or Bono or any of them.
I'm sick of them.
So before we get into what he's actually going to say about Kanye West,
it's really funny because right before this, he was in a big rant about U2,
about how their album got put on everybody's phones.
That's right.
That's right.
I remember that.
Everybody loved that.
That was a very popular thing that they did.
He was pretending that everyone got charged for the album.
He's like, God damn, U2 is robbing a million people.
I don't even have $9.99 to give to these assholes.
Not that it was a free album that they put on everyone's phone,
which in itself is weird and I'm not for it.
It is weird.
But they didn't charge everybody for that album.
Anyway, here's what he says about Kanye West.
They didn't charge anybody for that album.
Also, special place in hell for these people.
Right.
Look at Kanye West trick fans into subscribing to title lawsuit claims.
Well, of course they do.
I mean, it's all about, send me $25 million.
I'm going broke when he wasn't going broke.
It's all about pimping his fans, getting it over on them.
That's what a man does.
No, a man builds civilization and technology and advances people
and produces art and literature and culture and lifts everything up and is strong.
They don't sit there and feed on the weak.
You stupid slave master.
He's just like the black Africans that sold their own people into slavery.
He's a slave master.
He's a pimp selling them there at the top.
What?
Yep.
Yep.
So I didn't look into Kanye.
I was just watching, you know, I saw him with the Kardashians.
I just didn't like him.
Now, of course, I did think he was a slave master who was selling out
fellow Africans to be owned by white people.
Just as bad.
But that was just because he was close to Kim Kardashian.
That makes sense.
That tracks.
He's such a fucking idiot.
It's just, this is why it's so frustrating is because there's a hunt.
We could do this all day.
We could dance.
We could do this dance all day, but it comes back to all the time as it doesn't matter.
No, no one cares.
No one remembers this.
And if Alex wants to like even address the fact that he's, you know,
I think the most important piece of it is him admitting I never looked into him.
And then he's saying that kind of extreme thing against him.
That means that you need to work harder and look into people before you talk
shit about them.
You would think.
But the part about it, like he said negative things about Kanye in the past,
but now he's saying good things.
He can easily get around that by being like, oh, he's no longer in the Illuminati
because Trump helped him or something like that.
He can do, he can play that game.
And then we're like, all right, fine.
It's just, it's just fun to see it.
Like the thing about this and the thing about the way that everybody reacts to
Kanye's bullshit is fascinating to me in terms of celebrity culture of just
so many people just blow in the wind immediately.
Just like, oh, Kanye said something I didn't like.
So he's an asshole now forever.
Right.
Oh, he said something I do like.
So he's the nicest guy in the world forever.
And I'm like, oh, who gives a shit?
Yeah.
Like I just, I agree.
I don't, I don't care what he says.
I agree.
And you know, it's like, it's like, it's like, drop another life of Pablo on me and I'm fine.
It's like Alex complains about people like being involved in celebrity worship and
celebrity culture all the time.
Right.
And now you just see him engaging in it because the guy said he likes Trump.
Right.
Or something or it behaved in such a way as to make it appear that he likes Trump.
Sure.
Who, and again, I agree with you.
Who gives a shit?
Yeah.
Well, then on the other hand, I don't necessarily want to support an artist who is
a black, white supremacist.
You know, if you're supporting Trump as, as I've previously stated at this point, chances
are you're a 95% white, white supremacist.
Right.
So now we have to see what the hell it is.
Or sympathize or at least at least white supremacist.
I don't know, man.
See now actually he might be more like the 2016 version that Alex complained about.
I don't know.
Anyway.
This all makes sense.
So a little bit later in the episode, Alex spends a large portion of his time doing what
I predicted.
I think, I think he might listen to the show because I don't think he does.
But I, why doesn't he take any of our good ideas when we, when we first saw him like
sort of tiptoeing back to Trump, like a little scary boy.
What we were like, I think my take on it was just give back to shitting on Hillary.
That's what you do all the time.
You don't even need to talk about Trump.
Just go back to that.
And so he spends a large portion of the show going over a speech that Hillary gave
at what he thought was Penn State.
That's going to be important later.
He spends most of his time talking about how Penn State is a hotbed of demon activity
because of Jerry Sandusky.
I mean, yeah.
Sure.
There is a, there's a, I got it.
There's a huge mess there for sure.
But that does not mean that there is a hotbed of demons.
It just means that there was a institutional problem where they did not address things
appropriately at all because they cared too much about the football program.
I believe it was actually because they were too liberal, Dan.
Liberal.
They were too liberal.
Too liberal.
They were controlled.
That's what liberals do.
They control the speech of people who are trying to point out that you hired a child molester.
If by liberal you mean protecting financial interests in the form of the football team.
The most liberal thing you can do.
Then I would say liberal.
Yeah.
For sure.
But Alex thinks there's demons there.
And so he says this.
They told me the sources, multiple sources.
They said, Alex, it's not just pedophilia.
It's devil worship.
Penn State is heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy devil worship.
A lot of heavies.
All the ties the Clinton family has to Penn State.
Big articles.
Go, go look it up and put it on screen for TV viewers.
So he spends so much time imputing Penn State and linking them to Clinton and Hillary Clinton
because he's giving the speech there.
And here's the punchline to that, which comes about an hour later in the show.
One correction here I need to make that I just noticed.
I was watching this Hillary video this morning on infowars.com.
Steve Watts, an article about it, and it had like what looked like Independence Hall
when they showed the side shot.
Wasn't that was it?
You can find that on the video for TV viewers.
There's a shot where it's a side shot on the video.
I know I watched it this morning.
Interesting shot.
Not the frontal shot in the video.
It's a side shot.
No.
It's like Independence Hall.
It looks like Independence Hall and it says Penn and all that.
And I know she was a big buddy with Penn State and speaks there a lot.
So I said, look at her speaking at Penn State where they had all the big problems and the compromise
and the president and arrest for covering up the pedophilia and Sandusky and all of it.
And then I realized, I said, let me look into that where she was speaking.
It's Penn America, not associated with that.
Penn America, a journal for writers and readers is an annual journal that features fiction,
poetry, conversation, criticism, memoir.
So no affiliation with Penn State.
You stupid asshole.
Do that before you get on air and talk about it.
Like I appreciate that at least there's a correction because he never fucking does that.
Yeah, that's weird.
That is at least like, but that might be again a function of he knows he's getting sued.
Yeah.
Now he's coming correct.
Yeah.
So at least there's that.
That's very out of character.
But man, just like, don't assume things when like, when 15, 20 minutes of your content
is going to be linking Hillary to the demons that you see at Penn State because she's giving
a speech at Penn State.
Make sure she's fucking giving a speech at Penn State, not Penn America.
Find out what you're talking about.
It's so sloppy.
I hate this.
I hate him.
I don't want it.
Just I just, I just always get lost in the hyperbole.
Whatever, whatever you say, they're into heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy devil worship.
I think you might have missed a heavy.
I always, I always want to be like, okay, how much is that though?
What's like, what's the most?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Where do you differentiate?
Is that like a Christmas and Easter devil worship?
Is that what we're talking about?
That's where you go to the coven once or twice a year.
Yeah, you do the major holidays.
Yeah, of course, of course.
They have a great pageant though.
You got your kid in there.
It's wonderful.
Sure, sure.
But heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy devil worship.
What is that?
I don't know.
Probably drinking blood, adrenochrome.
That seems like three heavies at most.
You're a man who's eating a six-tie hot.
I mean, I hate to keep going back to Andy daily references, but then you're Chip Gardner.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
You're trying to conjure Satan.
Like here's the other thing.
Everything we're talking about is not real.
You know what I mean?
That's the other piece of this that gets really frustrating.
I suppose that's an issue with our varying positions because I always want to make it real.
Like when we're talking about our girl, Carrie Callahan,
I am always in the place of like, no, let's jump in.
I want to see what it would be like if this made any sense.
I want to get inside your mind and figure out how it is that you can put all these pieces together.
Well, at the same time, ignoring the glaring plot holes.
In your entire life with this.
It's fascinating to me.
Well, I mean, look, I don't have to listen to it all day every day though.
Look at look what we've gone over so far.
Melania Trump isn't on magazine covers and that is proof that the Patriots don't have any.
It's all everything.
The media is globalists.
Right.
That's not real.
That works.
Alex loves Kanye West now because he said something that indicates support of Trump.
That's not even that's not real.
That's that's a zero.
Alex in the past has said that Kanye West is a slave master.
That's not real.
Alex Penn State is super into devil worship.
That's not real.
Alex make a correction in the place where Alex has to make a correction about pen America.
That's real, but still what he's talking about isn't real.
And he could have jumped in there.
He could have been like, oh, I just got the name wrong.
Like what else is pen America doing?
Maybe in the future, suing him.
I would hope they were doing that.
But I mean, before you sue Alex, you definitely want to get in a prayer to Satan.
Absolutely.
I'll tell you that right now.
Lights him incense at the Satan altar.
So now that Alex is being sued about a lot of the stuff that he has, he's been stupid about in the past.
Yeah.
I think he might be starting to feel a little bit like I had to cover some of my bases, maybe.
And I've got to at least bring up my narratives about what I did in certain circumstances in the past.
Yeah.
And we know from covering it that he got a letter from James Aliphontus who owns Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
Yeah.
Which was the center of Pizza Gate and that Bruhaha.
And Alex was threatened with a lawsuit.
And he made a very embarrassing on air apology about it.
Which had no effect.
Nope.
And so he brings that up.
He brings up Pizza Gate here on this episode.
And I want to talk.
That's a good idea.
I want to talk about that a little bit.
The Guardian reported on it.
And so what were they going to do?
What were they going to do when all of the Aleister Crowley stuff came out?
And all the devil worship and the WikiLeaks, they just had the media focus in on DC,
focus in on a pizzeria where none of that was going on.
So that they could scapegoat all that and pull us all the way on to what was really going on.
That sentence doesn't even make sense.
Nope.
That doesn't track as like a grammar.
But we've already gone over that John Bowne report that Alex did.
We already gone over him saying, you've got to go check it out.
That stuff.
But let's.
Which I assume he still has the video up.
No, it's not.
No, he did.
You can find it on YouTube.
You can find it.
But I wanted to go even further into this.
I found some more times that he was saying Pizza Gate is real.
So this is a clip from November 26, 2016.
And so we're one of the first groups to cover it.
I just said, could this be code for drug dealing?
Could this be code for something else?
I don't know.
It's so horrible that I just said, what is this?
It's like photos of kids at parties with images of people bleeding to death.
How did I get you?
Women in satanic outfits drinking blood.
All right.
So we have already from this, this clip being weird.
It's the reason that he's responding this way is because in November of 2016,
he didn't have anything to fear really about being sued.
What he was afraid of is the internet being like, you didn't cover this.
You missed the boat on this.
Much like we're experiencing him do with QAnon.
So he didn't want that perception to be out there.
And so he's bragging, we were the first to cover it.
Now I said, I said, is this drug stuff?
But even in the way he's saying that, he's saying, I then learned it is not.
It is about drinking blood and what have you.
So in this next clip from that,
I like that maybe it's about drugs.
Nah, dude, turns out it's blood drinking.
So which is worse?
Well, I mean, to be fair, Alex thinks that the drinking blood is a drug.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
So in the, in this next clip, Alex very specifically links the FBI symbols for pedophile stuff
to the logos of the pizza places, which is one of the big cornerstones of the online
furor about a pizza gate that linked to Comet Ping Pong and Besta Pizza in Washington, DC.
I'm just like, I don't see how you see anything else watching this.
For radio listeners, you'll hear it and say, okay, that sounds pretty bad.
But when you look at the logos from law enforcement manuals,
on how pedophiles, traffic kids, the codes they use, and you see the very images
on businesses connected to Podesta.
Well, there you go.
You know, I don't see how anybody can see it differently.
I don't, I don't see how, first of all, I don't see how anyone could get a different
conclusion that I'm coming to when you see pedophile symbols mirrored in the logos for
these businesses that I have arbitrarily connected to Podesta.
It would be bananas.
Well, I mean, to be fair, John Podesta did have like a fundraiser at Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
So Alex isn't making up that there's a connection or whatever.
But he's making up all the rest of the stuff.
But, but again, yeah, I mean, this is very specifically talking about
Pizza Gate as being a part of these, these restaurants.
Now hold on, before you, before you get to this, okay, one more clip where Alex,
like he can't, he can't undo this.
Like he can't walk this back.
I couldn't sleep last night and
you know, people want me to look at it.
I may as well take off a week and just only research this and actually go to where these
places are and stuff.
In fact, I'm looking at it on a plane.
I just, just like Bohemian Grove and stuff.
I can't just say something and not see it for myself.
They go to these pizza places.
There's like satanic art everywhere.
That's the wrong order.
There's, there's art of these people where they're shoving
children into women's vaginas.
I can't even say this stuff on air.
I mean, you know, something's going, and then they have rock bands that come play there.
You were talking over to tiny bit, but you missed like saying something's going on there
and stopping himself.
Yeah.
But in that clip, you're saying, I'm going to go to Washington, D.C. to these pizza
places and research it like it's Bohemian Grove, which we already know Bohemian Grove
was him just doing a fucking bullshit publicity stunt, lying about everything he did.
But like,
That's it.
That is a kind of a revelatory way of looking at that phrase though, is if you say something,
try and see something.
Like it's, it's going the wrong way.
Right.
Right.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
It's the Alex Jones School of Non-Journalism.
Right.
I just, I just can't handle why he thinks that he is doing a good job now in the present,
in the way that he said that, where he's like, the media was just trying to lead us on.
What you really said is we are the easiest to lead on people in the history of ever.
Well, do you remember his, we are dumb.
Well, but do you remember his version of what happened with Obama's birth certificate?
Like, do you remember what he was saying?
He was saying that like, they put out the version that said he was born in Kenya because they knew
that we couldn't resist the idea of invalidating the American-ness of a black president.
Right.
But in reality, that Kenyan birth certificate was just to cover up that his dad is Frank Marshall
Davis, a communist pornographer.
Right, right, right.
So it's like a-
See again, but your argument there is, we're dumb.
We get tricked a lot.
We are so easy to trick because we want things to be real so bad.
Especially these racist ones, or in this case, I don't even know what this is.
I don't even know what to call this, but it's just giving people a fucking blueprint for how
to trick you.
Well, it's the same-
It's not hard.
No.
You're saying you want to be true.
If somebody says it's true, we will believe it immediately.
But that's happened over and over and over and over again.
You can find constant examples of them just getting tricked and trolled and shit.
Right, but you're not supposed to say we got tricked.
Because then you reveal you're easy to trick.
But you know someone who got tricked real hard, famously.
Nice transition.
Thank you, was Paul Joseph Watson.
He got that DM from a guy who told him a bunch of bullshit about the private tapes of Trump
from the scenes at the Apprentice.
Right.
Got a few nudes too.
And how it was going to come out imminently.
And Paul Joseph Watson, without vetting anything, rushed to print and told Alex,
and Alex did a special report about how, hey, look, Donald Trump, he likes to have a good time,
likes to say jokes.
Sometimes he might say some dirty words, like all this, responding to some stranger who DM'd
him from a fake account.
And then later told the press about it, like, I didn't realize that they were actually going
to report on this.
I just made all that up.
Of course.
Screenshots and everything.
So Paul Joseph Watson gets tricked a lot.
Easy to trick.
They're stupid people.
So there is an article that just came out in The Daily Beast about Paul Joseph Watson.
And the headline of it is Paul Joseph Watson is going to steal Alex Jones' crackpot crown
or something along those lines.
So I assume he's been murdered by Alex.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Wow.
Here's the thing.
Okay.
Alex's perspective on it is, I think on one level, kind of right.
Maybe he's like, they're just trying to sow dissension in the ranks.
Okay.
All right.
And possibly, possibly that's true.
That's kind of giving away your hand there, Alex.
But that's possibly like someone's motivation of like trying to build up Paul Joseph Watson
to make Alex jealous.
It's possible.
I don't know.
I don't think that's the editorial position of The Daily Beast.
I mean, that's a very mocky.
I didn't know that The Daily Beast was a Machiavellian run organization.
Listen, I don't take anything for granted anymore.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
But so I read that article and it's really interesting because they went to...
Oh, that makes sense though.
Daily Beast, who is called The Beast?
Satan.
Alistair Crowley.
Oh, Crowley.
There we go.
Crowley started The Daily Beast.
Crowley was a beast on The Daily.
There's no doubt.
So I read the article.
Plus one points for that.
Thank you.
Yep.
So I went to the article, I read it and most of it is very even-handed.
There's quotes from Alex's ex-wife talking about how Paul Joseph Watson got paid a ton
early on and Alex is like, I don't know if I paid him a ton.
Do you think $5,000 a month is a ton?
I'm like, yeah.
Yeah.
For writing fake articles?
Yeah.
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,600
$60,000 a year?
Yeah, I think so.
That's a good gig.
Yeah.
And so he even...
That's not bad.
He has a comfortable life lying.
He immediately was like, oh, wait, I said a number.
Got weird about it.
So but the rest of the article is like this person went to Sheffield and went...
I don't even know what that is in pounds.
This reporter went to Sheffield and was trying to talk to people who knew him and most of the
actual interviews that they got from people were like, yeah, you know, he was a nice guy.
I don't know.
They were really boring statements.
And one of the only things that they were able to like really refute is that in an interview,
Paul Joseph Watson said that he grew up on a council estate, which is like shared government
housing. And they found where he grew up.
And that's absolutely not true.
No.
So that's the only thing.
But the rest of...
Upper middle class probably.
More...
Yeah, you get that sense.
Yeah.
But the rest of it isn't like it's not a hit piece at all, except for the fact that it's like
he works with Alex Jones.
Right.
That's the only part of it that's negative.
Well, that's interesting because that begs the question.
When did he turn into what he is now?
If he was a nice guy when they were growing up...
When he started watching David Ike videos, because he does say he knew that the story
was going to come out and that the reporter was asking people about him.
And so he took to Twitter and started revealing stuff that does not come out in the article,
except from his Twitter.
And so like one of the things he said was like, don't tell Alex, but David Ike was the one who
actually woke me up.
And so he started watching David Ike videos and looking into his reptilian worldview.
And that eventually led him to Alex.
And it's actually really fucked up because he says that he watched a John Ronson documentary
about Alex.
Okay.
And that's what made him want to get in touch with Alex.
And they interviewed Ronson about it.
And he's like, I don't...
My bad guys.
No, he doesn't say that because he's like, I don't understand how anybody could watch
that documentary.
Right.
And then want to go talk to Alex.
Of course.
I think we presented very clearly that he's lying.
Yeah.
And I think he's like, I don't understand how someone would watch that and think,
oh, that's the team I want to be on.
But apparently Paul Joseph Watson did.
So what?
Sociopaths flock together?
Is that what you want to say?
Like if you watch that documentary and you're like, oh, that guy lies real good,
better get on that train.
I don't know.
I'm good at lying too.
I can't understand the motivation.
Also, he's probably not a reptile.
John Ronson on the other hand, you've heard him talk.
Reptilian.
That's a reptilian voice.
That's not a...
I'll tell you that right now.
There's no raptor.
Oh, no.
Uh-uh.
That's a reptoid all the way.
So the other thing that I think is really fun is that Paul Joseph Watson,
in anticipation of this article coming out, uh, he got on Twitter and announced, uh,
hey, it's probably going to come out, uh, but I got kicked out of school
because I was drunk and high all the time.
I'm like, all right, PJ doves.
All right.
All right, buddy.
It did not come out in the article, except for from his own reportage.
So it's like...
I like, I like it.
Whatever the subject of an interview doesn't know what's going to happen.
And clearly in the interview, like when Alex got interviewed by, uh, uh,
Megan Kelly, where he's like, I told her a lot of shit.
Yeah.
I do not know what she's going to use.
There's just that weird, like, get ahead of the story.
Yeah, yeah.
And then when the story is a zero, you're like, oh, I,
I should not have told everybody I killed six people that other.
Oh, yeah.
So, uh, the thing is, the reason we're talking about this is because Alex
is mad about this daily B story for one thing, because Kelly talked to them,
his ex-wife Kelly talked to them.
Right.
And he does not like...
She's the media now though.
Yeah, that's true.
He does not like, uh, the idea that she was talking about the inner workings of
Infowars, uh, back when she was involved.
And he's kind of mad about that.
Is she still a part owner though?
Not anymore, I don't believe.
And, and you know what they like, the way the shell companies work,
it's hard to tell like where the money is.
Because she was, as I, as I recall the last time I was looking into the corporate structure,
she was a owner of free speech systems.
Yeah.
But then there's the branching off from that, like Infowars, Infowars health, Infowars life.
So there's, there, there's a bunch of different places and it's entirely pop.
I don't know that I'm not a business attorney.
I have no idea.
Fair enough.
And they're, and they've been divorced for like three years.
The only reason I bring that up is because it seems to me if you are part owner or we're a part
owner, you didn't get hit with the same NDA contracts there.
So who knows?
Alex is infuriated because he literally can't control what it is she's saying.
She doesn't have the same NDA that so many of his former employees have.
But that might have been a part of the divorce, you know, it's entire, I like, I,
we're spitballing wildly.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's not, it's not really constructive for us to guess.
Of course not.
But it's possible that it's possible that like a condition of alimony or something like that
was you don't reveal inside information about the business.
So I don't know.
That's a bad, that's a bad contract.
Get a new divorce lawyer.
That's what I'm saying.
Look, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know anything.
That's what I'm saying.
And I don't want to be like Alex talking about Kanye West in 2016.
Fair enough.
And just randomly make stuff up.
Right.
And so anyway, they would be started.
Well, she is associated with the Kardashians now.
So there you go.
The Daily Beast article super pissed off about it for that reason.
Crowley.
But then there's another reason.
I'm looking for men better than me.
I'm looking for women better than me.
I'm looking for people to put on in the field.
And after somebody comes along way better than I am at all the skills I've got,
like finding Paul Watson, like finding Owen Schreuer.
You know, no credit in the little stupid articles to that.
No, Jones is this knuckle-dragging buffoon who can't even tie his own shoelaces.
That's why all these governments listen and intelligence agencies listen and all the rest of it.
My skill on the air, my oratory repertoire is not one-tenth of my main intellect.
Do your birdie.
I'm not bragging.
Just a fact.
But I don't enjoy watching the sycophantic manipulations they put out that I know has an
effect on some weak minds.
You know, he just started.
I, and then he went to an ad pivot after that, but it was really boring, so I didn't keep it in.
Of course, of course.
But yay.
Yeah, man.
His big problem seems to be that the article didn't compliment him enough.
Yeah, it's like, okay, this article about someone else didn't say great things about you.
If you are going to do an article about Paul Joseph Watson eventually taking over Alex Jones'
crown, you have to spend the first, I would say, three quarters of it saying about how
great Alex Jones was for discovering the man who would supplant him.
This is a King David situation if I ever did see one.
This is so...
That's the story right here.
Story, man after God's own heart discovers replacement, probably kills his wife and has
sex with her.
I don't know.
This is, I don't know.
This is tremendously petty.
Yeah.
Like this is, this is next level petty.
Also, can you imagine?
Also, he wants credit for finding Owen Schreuer.
We know how he found Owen Schreuer.
He wants credit for it though.
Owen called into the show.
He wants credit for it.
Owen found him and Owen's not great.
And you should not want the credit for finding Owen Schreuer.
Right.
You did not, you did not find the next Edward R. Murrow in Owen Schreuer.
Stupid, stupid fucking petty bullshit.
So now there's another thing that's going on.
You know what else?
My car is bigger than his.
How about that?
Huh?
You didn't talk about that.
His car drives on the wrong side of the road.
Yeah.
What, what is he even doing?
He's, he's, he's a feat.
You never talk about manly men, huh?
He always looks like he's going to cry.
Like he's a Rococo baby.
A little French painting baby.
He smells too nice.
But at least he is sort of understanding his own impulses.
And that is that like, so when I, when I was saying,
you rightly criticized that the Daily Beast is not a Machiavellian outfit.
Yeah.
But that's how Alex Jones' brain works.
Of course.
So he's accusing them of trying to make that happen in recognition of,
that is what I would think.
Right, right, right.
If there's a subordinate.
I believe every negative thing it said about me is part of a larger scheme to take me down.
Or a positive about a subordinate is a negative against me.
Right, of course.
Which is, holy shit.
Which is one of the, I mean, it's not a terrible plan,
because clearly Alex only hires people who aren't capable or talented enough to shoot for the crown.
I don't think he has a choice.
That's a fair point.
So speaking of incompetence.
There have to be other lunatics like Alex.
Speaking of other lunatics.
There we go.
So a while back we covered Zach, Alex's fake intelligence source.
When he pretended that the FBI had picked him up and then he had to go to Morocco.
Right.
And he was,
That was a long fourth wall break.
Alex was,
He had to get on that flight.
He had to talk to the audience the whole time.
Alex was saying that he went to Morocco to get out of the States because it was too hot.
And then when he interviewed Zach from Morocco, he was like,
No, I'm just visiting family.
And then Zach, since then, has said a bunch of crazy,
I mean, hiding out with family.
Zach said a bunch of crazy bullshit about how they were shooting from helicopters in the
Las Vegas.
Shit.
He said that this is a war for Mars between the United States and America.
He didn't know.
Starring ice cube, I believe.
He didn't know who the joint chief of staff was when Alex was talking about him.
David Rockefeller.
He thought that HR McMaster was still involved in the administration,
though he'd been fired at least a week or two previous.
Right.
There's a bunch of indications that this guy is not legit.
I believe he's actually running a hardware store McMaster and Sons probably now.
That sounds right.
So on this episode on the 23rd, they do it again.
I don't know how else to put it.
They just do it again.
They just do it all over again.
Yeah.
So Zach, Zach, now can we, can we play the audio side by side?
Is there some way to overlay the audio to see if they break it all?
No, because he's become too much of a character that Alex is playing it out in real time.
Uh-huh.
And so he's like, Zach, he's about to go fly to Abu Dhabi.
And, you know, he's texted me and he's been taken in by Homeland Security at the San Francisco
Airport and they want his cell phone and they want his external hard drives.
And we'll try and get him on the phone.
Where does Zach live in, where does Zach live?
He, Alex says he's based out of Florida.
He's based out of Florida.
But that doesn't make sense either.
No.
None of it makes sense.
Nothing, nothing makes sense.
But I believe, I believe that Space Command is in Florida.
Space Command's in Colorado.
I thought that was in Colorado.
It's in Colorado Springs.
See, I get the feel from Zach that he is in a very, very independent improv troop.
Yeah.
And he's just trying to get by.
Well, the last time he was on, like that we listened to, he had to finish the, like,
the interviews like, I gotta go off my lunch break.
I'm getting on stage here in the, oh, I gotta do, I gotta go do a zip-zap-zap.
Sorry, Alex.
This has been good warmup tricking your audience.
He's doing vocal exercises on the show.
Might as well be.
But so he's a red leather, yellowed leather.
That's what the Mars is about.
Red leather, yellowed leather.
So I'm not going to play any of him because I, at this point, it's not,
it, if he'd said something like really, really fun, we'd play it, but it's so boring and so much
like I'm very, very convinced that it's all not real.
And I don't care necessarily to play boring, not real things on the show.
So there's no actual clips of him, but the context of it all is really funny.
And that's why I'm bringing it up to discuss.
Zach is allegedly being held at San Francisco airport by Homeland Security,
who have called in the FBI who want to look through his phone, his external hard drives
and what have you, still able to text Alex Jones and tell him.
Well, you get one phone call.
One text.
You get one text, you get one phone call.
So the premise was that he was supposed to be on in the third hour.
He was going to have an interview and called in in the third hour,
but now that he's been detained by Homeland Security and all this,
he might not be able to make that interview.
Oh no.
But then he gets out from Homeland Security.
That was fast.
Impound, I guess, or whatever.
And he's somehow able to call Alex Jones,
who apparently why they held him is because he keeps talking to Alex Jones,
which also is stretching credulity.
Immediately afterwards though, he is given,
he's got the First Amendment right to call Alex Jones.
He's on the phone just in the airport, give him the bird.
Yeah.
And so in the middle of the second hour,
he is now on the phone with Alex Jones and he's like,
Hey, look, I got to go.
I'm going to get on this flight.
It's like, you would have been on the flight
during the third hour interview.
If you hadn't gotten, what are you talking about?
He caught a red eye.
Come on, man.
No matter that you always, there's always another play.
No matter what happened, whether he got quote unquote,
stopped by Homeland Security or not,
he would have been on the plane during the third hour
when Alex was supposed to be interviewing him.
So it makes no sense if I understand his timeline correctly.
He's flagged by Homeland Security.
Talking too much to Alex Jones.
We've got your picture up.
Most wanted early 1800s, Wild West style.
Right.
Bring in.
We got to take a look at your phone.
But you, sir, you are a government agent.
So you know to lock your phone and we can't get in there.
So we got to bring the FBI in that notoriously,
the FBI is only 15 minutes away.
Always.
Always.
So the FBI comes in, the G men come in,
wear a 1950 suits with the fedoras.
They try and unlock the phone.
They can't.
All of this takes about two hours.
Surprisingly enough.
Good thing we got to the airport three hours earlier.
It takes about an hour.
It takes about an hour.
Well, good thing got there three hours early.
The FBI recognizes that he is a flagged individual
and then says, you know what?
We can't get it.
Get on in there.
Come on, you scamp.
Get on on that plane.
I don't know how the inner workings of intelligence
agencies were generally not that,
but I would say if one were concerned that you were giving
privileged information to a blow hard talk show host,
right, they probably wouldn't let you text said
blow hard talk show host to tell him in the midst of
tell him, Hey, I'm being detained by Homeland Security
and the FBI.
It seems like that would only be something that occurs to
again, a shitty improv actor.
Sir, sir, we're going to need to bring you.
Look, we hate to do this.
We understand.
We're going to need to bring you in the back room.
We got to call the FBI.
You're clearly a, you're above our pay grade.
And he's like, okay, cool.
Can I have my phone to text whomever I want
with no oversight whatsoever?
Oh, sure.
Come on.
Yeah.
We're good guys.
I get that most sort of law enforcement and shit
is pretty incompetent, but this just seems
like a fantasy novel.
It's a little bit high level to quote Carrie Cassidy.
This seems like a story being played out in real time.
Have you ever seen the movie red?
All right.
So there's one more thing I want to bring up before we
get to, we have one more clip left, but there's one more
to sort of talky piece.
And that is that Alex is screaming about how the
globalist can mind control everybody.
Like the spiders.
From like cell phone towers.
And he's like, I've been saying it for years.
It's now in popular mechanics.
Okay.
And so I looked at that.
I looked that up.
All right.
I looked that up.
That would be a groundbreaking article for popular
mechanics to have.
I mean, it's a real article from the 19th.
And there was a journalist, Curtis Waltman is the name
of the journalist.
He was doing a FOIA request about like white supremacist
groups, right?
Federal law enforcement.
Right.
And there was stumbled upon mind control.
The response that he got accidentally contained a zip
file that was called EM effects on the human body.
What?
And how can you accidentally attach that to your email?
I don't know.
Are they using Gmail and he was just kind of dragging
and pasting wherever like a fool?
Does he have like three drafts up at the same time?
What's happening here?
I have no idea.
But so you can find the images of this from the files.
And it's supposedly depicting psycho-electronic weapons.
All right.
I'm interested.
These are not convincing in terms of?
Viability.
Viability number one.
Yeah.
And then also just it seems like these are either ideas or
they are files about someone else's ideas like as a write-up
of them or something like that.
And even this article in popular mechanics says the
federal government has absolutely experimented with
mind control in a variety of methods.
But the documents here do not appear to be official.
So even the citation that Alex Jones.
Then who are you talking to?
Yeah.
Even the citation Alex is making is like, all right.
It's probably just something that got put on there accidentally
or it could be something they did on purpose in order to limited hangout.
Right.
All right.
If you put it out on popular mechanics nobody's going to take it seriously.
No.
No, of course not.
And of course if you have mind control you could just make them not take it seriously.
Sure.
That also I feel like the moment you have mind control over cell towers it's already over man.
You know like there's no there's no resistance.
They can control your mind.
Everybody has a cell phone you're fucked.
Oh, I mean we could go over.
I mean look at the Verizon coverage map.
What are we talking about?
Everybody's fucked if they have mind control over cell towers.
I mean we could go over we could go over some of this stuff that like what they this the images
claim that you can it will do to you.
It's literally everything.
What do you got?
Forced orgasm.
That'll happen.
That'll hit you in the genitals.
Hard to reach itch sight on your foot.
This is comedy bag bag, isn't it?
This is what's his name?
Reading and broadcasting thoughts.
This is not a duke.
Right.
This is Bob Duca.
This is Bob Duca.
Controlled dreams.
Rubber baby buggy bumper.
Artificial not organic.
Right.
Tinnitus.
Artificial tinnitus.
Okay.
That's just a high pitch noise.
They're just playing a high pitch noise.
Wildly racing heart rate without cause.
I would argue there is very specifically a cause.
It is this microwave weapon.
What do you mean with that?
Yeah, I was going to say.
What do you mean without cause?
Yeah, exactly.
I don't know what this means and there's a weird star next to it,
but it says microwave hearing.
There's a star?
There's a star?
Microwave hearing?
Also this one's in quotes.
Is that mean you can hear microwaves?
Maybe.
This one's in quotes.
So it's even ironic before it begins.
Could be.
I don't know.
Transparent eyelids.
So, okay.
No, no, no.
So if you're my controlling, that means you think your eyes are closed
when you learn that you can see.
Forced caffeine field.
I don't know what that means.
I'm afraid of that one.
Yeah.
So I mean, you know, whatever.
Forced caffeine field.
I'm not super, I'm not super charmed by this.
All right.
I want, I want all of those to be real.
Transparent eyelids.
I especially want a hard to.
Microwave hearing.
Hard to reach itch.
That is the most terrifying power a government can have over me.
Yeah, we've all experienced difficult to reach itches.
So I believe at the top of the show and throughout I've expressed that I'm sick
of Alex's bullshit and most of it does have to do with the lack of story progression.
And the hard to reach itch that you've had for the past couple of days.
Spiritual itch.
Yeah, for sure.
Spiritual, yeah.
But in this last clip that we have, it's a little long.
So we'll probably stop in the middle here and there.
But this last clip, Alex is discussing his blow up against Trump.
That Friday, last Friday, blow up that he had.
There's a couple problems.
Timeline doesn't work out.
No.
The thing he blames.
He seems to be calling booze food.
And so that's interesting.
But it's just your standard Alex Jones cowering out and being a little baby about something
because he knows like I can't follow through with turning on daddy.
You know, I blew up at Trump about eight, nine days ago, not last Friday, but the
Friday before last, because I've been real emotional about war with Russia and the whole
thing in Syria and knowing that if Trump did that, we'd be on the wrong side of history.
And then I thought that he backed off and said, no, there's no evidence that they did the chemical
attack.
That's not true.
And so I went home pretty happy at like seven o'clock, six, 30, got home, had dinner with
the kids, swam in the pool.
We're going to sit down and, you know, watch an old movie or something.
Drank.
They'd never seen Old Yeller.
We were actually queuing.
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, so, so really what this is is a reaction
to the death scene in Old Yeller.
No, fuck you.
That is not what you were watching.
You stupid folksy asshole.
He's like, oh, what's the most wholesome thing I could come up with?
Old Yeller.
Old Yeller.
That's what they were like.
You could have gone with the buttercream gang.
Sure.
Come on, man.
Old Yeller.
We know Old Yeller up at like eight, 30 at night.
Where's the...
I don't usually want to stay up past 10, but I wasn't allowed to do that.
Nope.
I'm a good dad.
My son's older.
He didn't want to watch Old Yeller, but my daughter's.
Drank.
Had a couple of drinks.
My daughters are sitting there in my lap and everything, and I go in the bathroom.
Daddy, why are you drinking so much?
And pull up my phone.
Well, my wife's making brownies and getting ice cream ready.
What is this?
Well, I'm sitting there taking a piss, looking at the phone.
Already I got red flags.
What family is this?
Is this a commercial from the 1950s?
It's not.
Is she wearing a fucking apron in fucking black and white?
This is ludicrous.
Is this all pastels and there are flowers everywhere?
What is fucking happening?
The only similarity to the...
Like Alex Jones' family in the 1950s is daddy's drunk.
That's the old...
Oh, shit.
For spit take.
Oh, god damn it, Jordan.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
That was a solid move.
That was a solid move.
God damn wine all over me.
I'm sorry.
You got me.
I'm sorry.
Man.
I'm sorry.
It was going to happen sooner or later.
Oh, Jesus.
A year and a half in.
Wine spit take.
We...
There is not a lot of wine, by the way.
Oh, boy.
So yeah, that's the only...
I'm sorry.
I don't know what happened.
That one hit me hard.
Well, daddy was drunk.
And here's the other problem that I have with that clip.
Alex is presenting it as,
hey, I was in the bathroom taking a piss and I looked at my phone.
Yep.
You know, look at your phone when you're taking a piss.
I do sometimes.
That's bullshit.
No one does that.
All right.
I'm going to use one of these dirty socks to clean the wine off my keyboard.
Jordan, you're going to be paying for the repairs to my laptop.
If you would like to donate to Knowledge Fight,
so Dan can afford paper towels.
I got paper towels just in the other room.
So let's bring it back to the clip.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I lost it on that one.
I see Trump's striking area.
And I just eating a bunch of food and I was tired.
Sure.
And I'm like, oh.
Oh, the elder is just dying.
You know, and then Rex wanted to go to my dad's house.
He was, I just want to stay with my grandparents tonight.
Can I go with you?
Because they're lived by the studio.
That's his way of like trying to get around.
That's him trying to get to...
That's why it happened.
So, you know, he wasn't going to the studio.
He didn't force Rex and all of these people to go to the studio.
It was on the way.
No.
That's his way of trying to get around his ex-wife's criticism
that he was drunk driving with his son in the car.
Yeah.
No, he was doing that.
Yeah.
That's his way of trying to get around that.
Like a half mile.
So I, you know, I drive.
So even if I was drunk, it's not that bad.
I just get in here and then the crew does a great job.
And I don't just say a great job.
They do an amazing job.
And Rob do runs up here and everything from his family.
And he teaches basketball and other sports and he runs up here.
And he's got three cameras because I wanted to go live on those cameras
before I went live.
And then in here, I'm just telling you what happened.
And I say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we're going to go live in here.
And then we're going to go live in there.
And I was mumbling.
Just, you know, you're tired, whatever.
All of a sudden he's like thumbs up and I realized I'm on air.
While I'm venting, which I don't do a lot.
So there's that.
You were aware of the Twitter stream.
Were you not?
Were you, were you self-aware enough to say, don't put this out there?
Let's start again.
Yeah.
Start again implies that you knew you were starting.
You knew there was a beginning and an end.
But I mean, this also does sort of match with the awareness that he had
recent delete this.
Yeah.
Like this is, this looks real bad.
Yeah.
Of the things I do that are bad, this looks pretty bad.
I am just interested to know.
I am a drunk, furious man right now.
I am fascinated by the idea of being on Rob do's basketball team.
Well, it's probably with kids, you know.
Right. No, but that sounds like a 90s SNL sketch.
I don't think, I don't know, man.
Maybe I'm, maybe I'm biased.
I don't think Rob do is probably like as a person that bad a dude.
Like, I bet, I bet he'd be a great basketball.
Yeah, but we have speculated like a dorky dude.
We have speculated that he is perhaps the puppet master behind this whole thing.
Well, that's us getting conspiratorial and like,
that's our version of Illuminati talk.
Yeah. That's good.
You know, that's, that's probably not true.
He seems like he's just a family guy.
He's got a bunch of kids and just also happens to work for a
vicious white nationalist propaganda.
It happens.
Yeah.
Who amongst us?
Maybe like every couple of weeks,
then a little of it today.
Cause I forgot to eat breakfast this morning and worked out hard by noon.
I like a headache was getting grumpy.
I went, Oh, I forgot to eat better eat something.
But I'm just explaining the psychology for listeners to understand
that we, well, this isn't an act here on air.
Sure.
Okay. This is what we're really doing.
We really believe in this.
And I'm in control most of the time, but the emotion got to me and I was already going,
man, I'm sick of Trump.
This is BS.
He better not be going sideways.
F this, F that.
And I'm saying F.
I meant to say Dumford because I've heard he's, he's somewhat pro war.
And I can't say that because it's all very, very opaque.
But I'm saying F.
Mattis, Mattis is the one trying to stop it.
That's confirmed.
That's what I mean.
It was just kind of an incoherent train wreck.
If you're talking about your presentation and what you did being an incoherent train wreck.
Absolutely.
Agreed.
That that is not fake news.
That is top level analysis of what that is.
That is a moment of insight.
Oh yeah.
So where are you at?
Um, boy, this, you know what?
This satisfies all of my curiosity.
You got, you kind of got the full spectrum.
Everything makes sense.
I accept this as the timeline of events that is not at all made up two hours before the show.
I was sitting around with my wife and my loving family trying to watch old yellow and enjoy a
brownie with some ice cream because someone had said that Syria was a false flag and I
agreed with it and it was great.
Then I mysteriously took a piss and looked at my phone and saw Trump is bombing.
And I had eaten a whole lot of food and was emotional.
And so I got on air and twice started screaming obscenities.
Well, Rob do videotaped me and I told him to delete it, but he fucking didn't delete it.
And then I got on air for three hours and man, I just kept eating because I kept getting more
emotional.
Yeah.
Like, I mean, the food just really, I got, you know what?
I don't know.
I was angry.
Have you seen those Snickers commercials?
That'll happen.
I ate that'll happen.
I ate a meal that I was really full.
But then, but then somehow I kept getting more full to the point where I ended up crying on
air and saying that Trump shoves ISIS up his dirty asshole.
That's food for you.
That's food.
We've all been there.
It's food for you.
We've all been there.
You know, you know, you have a, you have a pizza.
All of a sudden you want breadsticks.
You have some breadsticks.
All of a sudden you want to sell it.
You have a salad.
All of a sudden you want to tell people that ISIS has shoved up dirty assholes.
Like that.
It also wasn't the world's supposed to end today.
Wasn't that one of those, wasn't that good?
It's always supposed to come on.
Come on.
Let's finish this.
Come on.
It's always supposed to end.
Let's finish this clip up.
And then dudes like doing thumbs up, looking at me and I'm like, I'm looking for men better
than me.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
What'd you do?
My spit take ruined the show.
The wine has affected my laptop in a way that is no good.
Oh, no.
Oh, man.
What happened?
Did I break this down?
Yeah, you did.
Is this not recording anymore?
No, it's still recording, but my mouse doesn't work.
Oh, shit.
Oh, no.
Oh, boy.
So it's still recording, but now I don't know if I can stop it from recording
or if I can play the end of this clip.
Because now the iTunes, oh, there we go.
I have control again.
Wow.
That was weird.
I didn't do anything and it fixed itself.
If there's a layer of moisture on top of it, sometimes the signal won't connect correctly.
All right.
So I'm going to jump back to this clip around about where we were.
All right.
You know, I'm not going to spit take again.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
That are LED, which are so good.
You know, these lights, not a part of the others.
And we were up here until six or seven, putting the lights in and I get home and Sunday morning,
there's like a 30 second video where they just had a live feed cameras in here.
Somebody took them down and then they did a live feed.
I'm not mad about it.
I didn't show anything or something to show.
So I'm talking about fixing lights.
But then it creates the whole other story is Jones faking this.
You know, he really ran and say, wait a minute, that's live.
That's what made me get even more pissed because I wasn't ready to go live.
And but it's my fault not being clear.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, go live there before here and then go live there.
Go live.
And then he sees me start ranting.
He thinks, well, he's going live.
I thought he messed up.
And then I'm like, I just screwed up.
So then I'm even more mad and the explosion about Trump and walking back.
I was mad, but I didn't feel like I hate Trump now and he's evil and he's bad.
It's just that it hurt my feelings and upset me.
And I was honest.
Fuck your feelings.
So let me quote the old right.
Let me quote the old right.
Fuck your feelings.
So if I understand correctly, let me quote Stefan Malinu.
Feelings aren't facts.
His main issue with Trump striking Syria was that it hurt his feelings.
Well, you do notice that there's literally nothing about that in that entire four minute clip.
Not at all the principle of it.
Nothing about like, I'm still super against this.
You know how, you know, when you're ate too much and Rob do pissed me off.
You know how when you're lying, you don't add a million details that are not important to the
story.
Yeah.
You know how that always works out when you're lying, you're always like,
I'm going to stay quick and to the point and I'm going to get the story across.
That's what liars do.
They definitely don't talk and ramble for four minutes, creating a false family.
No, family is real.
But the image of this thing, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
So, but like that four minutes is infuriating to me.
It's the dumbest four minutes.
It's where I had to shut it off.
I had to shut off the show because I was like, I'm so sick of this bullshit.
Just own it that you are mad at Trump about this.
You still should be.
Yeah.
You still should be.
Even if you support him on all of his other positions, you should still have the balls to
be like, this guy's not perfect.
He fucked up.
I stand behind the things that I said because they came from a place of me being very anti-war
and I don't want to trigger things and make things even worse.
You can still give a, the good outweighs the bad argument.
You could.
Yeah.
And you could, you could get around the embarrassing stuff, the stuff where he's crying on air.
Right.
I gave up everything for Trump and that sort of stuff.
You could get around that by doing the emotional.
I mean, I still don't buy the, I ate a meal argument.
That's fucking stupid.
What did he eat?
Sure.
Fried chicken makes me feel a little wild.
We know that his excuse about his custody hearing was he had a big bowl of chili.
That'll happen.
Yeah.
So maybe.
So it could be five alarm.
Yeah.
Could be five alarm chili.
That's what's going on.
I just, I mean, like you could get around, like I'm saying, you get around the embarrassing
stuff with your stupid excuses.
You could do that, but then you wouldn't have to like, you know, that three hour presentation
was so stupid and so embarrassing, but it doesn't have to be now for him.
He could still, like this is the third act that could exist that we could still be like,
maybe engaged with where he brings nuance to his, his situation where he's like,
I do still have those principles that I believe in.
I don't trust Trump implicitly.
I don't want to just scream, but he's a great man.
Kanye West indicating that he's coming this direction or whatever doesn't,
that's not enough for me to go back on everything I've said about him over the years.
Sure.
There is a version of it that could like, it could be interesting and this is not interesting.
I think if you say the word nuance in Alex's presence, he starts barking.
Like he just, I don't think he has the energy to bark.
Unless he's just eaten all of his dogs that he has ever mentioned have been sickly though.
I don't know if he's ever seen a healthy dog.
He has Munchhausen's dog by proxy.
That's probably true.
So this brings us to the end of April 23rd, 2018.
Absolutely.
And how do we do?
We make it through.
Yeah.
Are you going to be okay, Dan?
That's a bit, it took a lot out of me, but I will say that I took a lot out of me too.
Literally, I enjoy the, I enjoy the ability to like pull back these like clips of him,
like being like, Kanye is pretty cool.
Like his music and then be like, well, you made a song called I am God.
I am a God, which is, you shouldn't like that.
You said he was a slave master in 2016.
I like being able to point out this pizza gate stuff, but it's just, it's, it's,
it's not that the, that kind of like that is that was all our show was.
I don't think that that would be an echo chamber, but it's not satisfying enough for me.
There needs to be more and he's not giving us more in the present.
Like we were talking about this before we got on air and this is mostly distractions.
He's mostly doing distraction shit right now.
And it's just not as much as it's attention grabbing and headline grabbing with all the
lawsuits and all the bullshit.
It doesn't, it doesn't give him a dick hard.
And so I would, I would have very much appreciated a far more in depth, uh,
conversation about Jesus, which is a very interesting album.
Oh, and I think Alex would love his version of it.
Oh, exactly.
I don't want to have that conversation, but I don't want to hear that so bad.
I want him and Owen Schreuer to really get into Kanye's catalog.
That would be a delight for me.
Halfway through that, they'd just put on that ludicrous move bitch.
I don't know, man.
So peace out.
I will be, you can find your boy in the past.
I'll be, I'll be looking into 2009.
Are you the guy in that old timey picture who's holding the cell phone?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that you?
Yeah.
You can find me in the past, but this has been fun.
Yeah.
Sure.
All right.
I've had fun.
Yeah.
I liked it.
But if you want more at the show, you're so forlorn.
I just, it's the eve of my birthday.
Yeah.
You know, I'm going to turn 34 in like three hours.
Well, happy birthday.
Thanks.
Yeah, you're welcome.
All right.
How do you feel about 34?
Jesus died at 34.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Interesting.
You got, you got a little bit of the Catholic Jesus in you.
Maybe.
Anyway,
Looking a little Catholic Jesus-y right now.
You want to find more about Catholic Jesus?
Go to our website.
KnowledgeFight.com.
There you go.
Right there.
We also,
I'll repost all of my, uh, uh, Kanye based articles from the past.
I've written a lot about,
I don't want you to repost those please.
Oh man.
I've probably written at least 10 or 11,000 words about Kanye.
As the webmaster of KnowledgeFight.com,
I'm going to ask you to not.
I have a lot of important things to say.
I do not control your content.
You know, I'm not like, uh,
I'm not an authoritarian about this.
I let you say some horrible things in your blog,
but please don't turn it into a Kanye West review.
I might.
Oh God.
I'll do it.
Oh boy.
Um, also we're on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
Uh, you can find us on iTunes.
Also on Facebook.
Yeah.
Um, what's, uh, you, uh, uh, June 15th.
We're in Austin.
We're in Austin.
Yep.
We're going to, if we do this every show,
it's going to be a lot between now and then.
What do you mean?
Let's, I mean, let's not plug it until like late May.
No, it's nice to keep reminding people.
I don't think we should tell people until.
Oh, let's let them try.
Very close.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
All right.
Let's see if that works.
We're bad at advertising.
Yeah.
Terrible.
Perhaps the worst.
Yeah.
No, I think it's on you.
I think it's on you tonight.
Hmm.
If you say Kanye West, I will murder you after this show.
No, cause I don't care.
It's the same thing we've been talking about.
I don't care.
True.
I mean,
here's what, I, this is what I'm talking about.
I can't get it up for any of this.
Oh, you know what I mean?
Oh, I hate to keep using boner metaphors, but like.
Do it a lot.
Who do we have in our periphery from this episode?
We got, I don't care.
No.
We got Alex.
That's gauche.
That's, that's old hat to tell him to fuck himself.
Right.
We got Zach.
I don't give a fuck about Zach.
Nah, Zach, Zach seems like an all right guy.
Seems like he's doing the best he can.
Yeah.
Other than, I mean, even then, I don't even think it's a bad thing to lie to Alex that
brazenly.
I kind of, I kind of appreciate it on some, on some level.
Ah, I will say this.
Everybody in Sheffield who refused to say negative things about Paul Joseph Watson
for that Daily Beast article can go fuck themselves.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Well, Alex, I'm a first time caller and caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.