Knowledge Fight - #159: Mantids and Chakra Attacks

Episode Date: May 9, 2018

It's a Wednesday in May, so that means it's time for Dan and Jordan to dip their toes into the murky waters of Project Camelot. Today, the two discuss an interview with a guy who is well-acquainted wi...th Mantis aliens, as they learn about the much-debated "Mantis Agenda" 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-name caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. I'm Jordan! We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are, Dan. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Dan, these intros are becoming very tortured in the length that they are taking. And I, for one, feel like the intro should be short, should be tight. You get in, you get out, you make sure that everybody knows you do that. I don't know, Dan. Frankly, I don't know. Let's have right now a 15-minute symposium on how to shorten the intros of the show. Absolutely. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I think it's a good idea. That's good use of R in our listeners' time. Yeah, absolutely. So I say that brevity is the soul of wit. How say you? Uh, sure. Okay. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Anyway, this is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. And today, it doesn't fucking matter because we're talking about Project Camelot. So, uh, well, then that means the Elysian space dust that we are drinking today is right on target fairly appropriate. Um, uh, and that should be not too much of a surprise to anybody. As I told you, I believe this was on air. Uh, we did, you did say that last week that you had a couple of Project Camelot
Starting point is 00:01:21 episodes to go and it just keeps going. Okay. She is Monday becomes a Camelot day. She is making up for lost time when she was in Egypt dumping a lot of shit on our plates. All right. I love it. Um, and so yeah, uh, in the foreseeable future, while you have your Zany's, uh, month here in May, at least we will be, uh, doing Project Camelot on, uh, our Monday live streams.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Fantastic. So that's what we're doing today. Very exciting. Uh, thrilled to be doing it. Vamping. Well, I get our headphones right. 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:53,700 Perfect.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Um, so before we get to it though, uh, I'd like to give a couple of shout outs to a couple of new donors. Hey, first of all, I'd like to say thank you so much to Josephine. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Thank you very much. Josephine. Thanks for joining the, the, the club.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I call it a team. The team. All right. All right. We appreciate it. You're now policy wonk. Absolutely. Uh, also like to thank somebody who took their, uh, donation, bumped it up.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Hell yeah. Now a globalist. Thank you so much, Doug. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And very exciting. Uh, there's a lot of confusion. Uh, there are multiple dogs who donate to the show. Okay. And I'm doing a terrible job differentiating between them. There's a number of people with the same name. We got a number of mics. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Uh-huh. Um, I'm not doing a good job, but if you hear your name, we appreciate it. So even if it's not your name, even if it's not you, we're still representing the dugs and the mics in the world. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, so Jordan, you know what? Actually, uh, I did check our iTunes statistics.
Starting point is 00:03:02 We are fairly low in the overall, uh, rankings. You don't say we're not in the top 20 yet. You don't say, but in dugs and mics, number one, number one, all dugs, all mics listen to the show. Huge. Absolutely. I'm glad that itunes keeps that kind of it's really crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 That really helps us out. It's maybe a little bit not good. Are you a dog? Do you like audio? Check this out. He recommended podcasts and most dugs like this show. Yeah. Nine out of 10.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Dugs agree. Knowledge fight. Pretty good. So today, like I said, we are talking project Camelot. Let's do it for everybody out there who doesn't know, who doesn't listen to our show on a totally regular basis every now and again. We have to go and dip our toes into the murky waters of the secret space program, uh, and Carrie Cassidy's show that she does on YouTube called Project Camelot, where she talks to
Starting point is 00:03:58 crazy people. It's interesting that, uh, we, uh, like the world is so insane. The only way to relieve ourselves of the insanity is to raise the bar a lot higher. Yeah. Take it to the, uh, the fun level. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I gotta say, I think I, from some of the research that I've done, it seems like
Starting point is 00:04:22 the guy we're going to be talking about today likes to sue people. Okay. I'm liking that. I could handle a lawsuit. We might have to be careful. We're going to represent ourselves in court, Dan. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So, uh, here is the introduction where Carrie gets going with her interview and I'm not going to tell you anything about what's going on, uh, until we get to it. That's my way of saying no setup. Gotcha. Okay. Simon, um, it's lovely to have you on my show. Uh, this is completely bizarre, but YouTube seems to have, have stopped working, uh, at least for the moment.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And we're going to check back in on that during this conversation, but we figured we'd bring you on live here just cause, uh, we shouldn't let anything stop us. Right. Well done. I love that. Well done. Well done. So they're live.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Nothing going to stop us now, Dan. They're live on Facebook because Carrie believes YouTube has just stopped working. That's one theory. Right. And her other theory is that she's being hacked slash attack. Could be. Uh, there's attacks going on. You know how people DDoS YouTube channels all the time?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Absolutely. That's absolutely the way it is. They don't want the information to get out there. No, no, no, no. So just for fun, I'm going to drop some knowledge on you about her guest before we get into anything. Uh-huh. Her guest is a guy named Simon Parks.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Simon Parks. Not to be confused with another Simon Parks. The one who likes to do drawings? No. There's a guy who got arrested for like tying a pig's head to a mosque in London and spray painting racial slurs. And that was not him. That wasn't him.
Starting point is 00:05:53 No. Same name. Not him. Provable. Yes. I've seen pictures of both of them. Okay. It's not the same.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Have you ever seen them in the same room? No. But I've never been to you. Classic surgery is still a thing. That's true. It's not him. It could be a mission impossible style mask. It's not him.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I just wanted to make sure in case like some of our listeners Google or anything get the wrong idea. They're like why didn't you talk about this? It's not him. There's also another. There was an adventurer who went missing Simon Parks. This is not that guy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Well, if he did go missing and then wound up on Project Camelot that would make the most sense. Check out. Yeah. I'm just I'm imagining she's about to have Amelia Earhart on next. I'm going to read to you from a Huffington Post article in 2013 about Simon Parks. Okay. Quote, a labor counselor has claimed he has fathered a child with an alien and that the
Starting point is 00:06:42 regular sex he has with an extraterrestrial is causing tension in his human marriage. It would. So far, everything tracks logically. He's in an elected office. Wait, what? He's a he's a what? He's an MP. No, he's a counselor.
Starting point is 00:06:59 He's like a counselor. I think it's like a mayor of a small town or something like that. All right. Or like a council person. I like it. I think council person is the equivalent. You love it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Simon Parks, who represents stakes beyond Whitby Town Council. Great. Great. Is that the name of the city? Stakes beyond Whitby. Yes. All right. Good.
Starting point is 00:07:17 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,700 He represents their town council told the Northern Echo. He has had a child called Zarka with an alien. He refers to as the cat queen, not the Black Panther Beast being. Okay. Okay. She's just her name is the cat queen. That's what he refers to her as.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You know, that's not a very intimate relationship. Certainly not. No, no, no, no. You're going to learn why. If you're using honorifics with the person who is the mother of your child or, or person of your child's birth. I don't know. I swear every single sentence like makes this weirder.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Okay. Check this sentence. Okay. The driving instructor. All right. Already done. Who has three children with his human wife. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:08:00 He's a driving instructor by career. Yes. That shouldn't be allowed. Driving instructor who's also on the town council of Stakesby on Whitby. Yeah. You know, I got my driver's license from a guy who fucked an alien. So he has three children with his human wife. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Right. Right. Said that the intercourse. Important distinction to make. He says that the intercourse that the alien happens about four times a year. Quote, what will happen is that we will hold hands and I will say I'm ready. And then the technology.
Starting point is 00:00:00 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,200 All right. And then. At least she's getting consent. I think that's really important. Yeah. And then the technology I don't understand will take us up to a craft orbiting the earth, he said. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:42 The labor politician has also claimed he was abducted by extraterrestrials as a child and that his real mother is a nine foot tall alien with eight fingers. All right. All right. He said. A total or per hand? I think it's total. How many hands does she have?
Starting point is 00:08:55 That's a great question. He does not specify. Okay. He said, quote, it's a personal matter and doesn't affect my work. It is a personal matter. It is a personal matter. It's against the law to fire him for mental illness. That's for true.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm more interested in fixing someone's leaking roof or potholes. People don't want me to talk about aliens. Agreed. I get more common sense out of the aliens than out of Scarborough town hall. Okay. All right. All right. Cool.
Starting point is 00:09:29 All right. The fellow counselor Terry Jenison told the fellow counselors who are just okay. All right. He told the Yorkshire Post quote, I'm completely in the dark about this. Well, it is a personal matter. They're coworkers. You keep your personal and your professional life separate. That's just good politics.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But that quote on background is amazing. It's perfect. I'm in the dark. Whoa. Don't ask me. Nope. No comment. No comment.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So then I found another article from the Daily Star in 2015 and it says quote, the article starts opponents of Simon Parks accused the 53 year old of turning Whitby town council in North York's into a laughing stock with us outlandish beliefs and conspiracy theories about government cover ups, UFOs, nonhumans and the Illuminati. Earlier this year, he claimed that the armed separatist conflict in Ukraine had been sparked by an alien race called the Nordics advising Russian President Vladimir Putin. Close enough. It might as well be true, but at the same time, that's not keeping the separate from
Starting point is 00:10:31 your work. Now, hold on. Let me ask you a question. What are his policy positions? Because frankly, if he's just a really good counselor who believes in same shit, isn't that better than a normal guy who is trying to pass a tax cut? Maybe I'm all for this shit. I would say I would take this guy over Paul Ryan any fucking day of the week and then
Starting point is 00:10:55 you can quote me on that alien newspaper. I would say that like there's not a lot of Nordic related issues in the stakes be on Whitby community. Right. Right. So maybe he could keep it separated. I mean, if he is all about fixing potholes and trying to bring jobs to to Whitby, then fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah, I'm all for it. So let me finish this article here. It's still going. Well, this is the one from 2015. This is when he's stepping down from office. Okay. Driving instructor, Mr. Parker. That's not the way to start that sentence.
Starting point is 00:11:31 He announced yesterday he was resigning as a labor counselor for states be ward because his workload left no time for his civic duties. Well, I need more time to teach people to drive. Hey, business is good. Fair enough. Former Whitby mayor and leading local Tory Scarborough counselor, Dorothy Clegg said, quote, I don't think my real opinion of this is printable. Mainly because her real opinion is just this fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Exactly. Come on. Yeah. What is this fucking guy? But once again, she's a Tory mayor, which makes her a worse person on the whole. I mean, possibly, but I just love the idea that these articles reached out to other people and their answers are like, I'm in the dark, no, you couldn't print what I have to say about this.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah. But a hard pass guys. So that gives you a little bit of the flavor of Simon Parks, and I really want to take a look at his voting record, because I bet it's fucking astonishingly good. Like I bet this dude is a huge Corbin supporter. Like this guy is all about income inequality being an issue. And I don't think it matters if what he really thinks is that income inequality is an issue. Because the Nordics are calling it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I think it's, I think it's good. I'm all about it. So Tories are worse than people who believe in aliens. So we had, I had intended for the series of episodes, believe in aliens every year, whatever, you understand. I had intended for our project Camelot series to be the new Mark Richards episode, which was last week. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And then this week we were going to find out about the people Mark Richards episode. No. The most viewed, uh, the Moses. Oh, right. I can't wait to talk about that. Yeah, of course. But then this came out and it kind of relates to Mark Richards. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So I've got it. I've got to get this in immediately off the heels. Oh, does he know Minerva? No, but he does know some of the aliens. Okay. Wait, like the same aliens. Well, you'll remember in that last Mark Richards episode, they talked about some, uh, concerns that Kerry had about things he was saying about the Mantis beings.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Right. Because. The agreement on the Mantis beings. Well, we, we got, we got issues. We got issues. Right. Here's where we start to get into it. So, uh, why don't you go ahead and, and we were going to talk about the Mantid agenda.
Starting point is 00:14:00 That's one of the big subjects here. And that was because Brett Stewart, uh, had done a remote viewing and he. Real quick. I watched a good bit of Brett Stewart's remote viewing. And man, it looks good. I mean, not viewing the video itself. Oh, okay. It's shot really well.
Starting point is 00:14:19 There's a lot of. He has a nice video and he's a good looking dude and he has a lot of views and he also has a Patreon and this is petty. We have five times the amount of donors you don't want to donate to that, but you do want to watch the fuck out of it. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:14:37 The reason his remote viewing even matters is that Brett Stewart and his team got excellent results when they viewed the Nazca aliens. And so that's why we really, uh, want to be able to, uh, talk about that because they were dead on before Gaia TV and their investigative team came up with answers, uh, Brett Stewart and his team, which was a very small team, just him and one other person on that particular story. It's not even really a team, more of a partnership bullseye. Everything checked out in terms of the real world.
Starting point is 00:15:15 How I, what do you mean? Love this. What do you mean? Also, my, my perhaps absolute favorite part of this is all the stuff that I am just like, of course, like all of the stuff that I just ignore, like, oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, of course, you know, fuck the gay agenda. What is the mantid agenda? I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm fine with this. What's the mantid agenda? Just, just, just wash over all of this stuff. We saw that his remote viewing got great results. I don't even know what good to great results would be, let alone bad results. He nailed the fucking Nazca lines before anybody else. Right. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I don't know what it means that it checks out with the real world, checks out with the real world. It, it, it matches a hallucination. Another crazy person had, right? That's basic. Do they ever have a bad remote viewings where like the connection isn't good and they, they like hold on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Cause that might be what we're dealing with in the case of this remote viewing. All right. I don't want to tip my hat too early, but Simon, not a fan of this remote viewing. Anyway, here we go. So that's kind of a unique situation in which a remote viewer has gotten, you know, real evidence that their remote viewing is accurate. So when he remote viewed recently, what, what in essence was their Urantia book, the author of Urantia book was the, was the target as well.
Starting point is 00:16:47 He ended up with the mantids and then he ended up with information about the mantid agenda. Ooh, the mantid agenda. Oh yeah. What is their agenda? We're going to find out. I promise. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:02 All right. Urantia book. Urantia book. Urantia book. Sorry. Do you know, I kind of mixed that in Sriracha, I think it's a, it's a spicy book. Always have it on hand. Always.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Um, do you know what the Urantia book is? No clue. Um, so it's a book. You rancher. I rancher. All right. I just prefer L ranch. Let's call the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's a Mexican restaurant. Columbia, Missouri. Delicious. Love the queso. Oh yeah. L rancher. The ranch made of gold. Oh, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Um, look, it's a book. I keep it in a nook. All right. All right. All right. Um, it has Christianity shook. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Nope. It's, it's a box. I was, I was fine with the second or the second pun minus one. I hate that. For the Christian shook. So it's a bunch of like channeled material that has to do with like the, the true nature of the universe. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Like, uh, we were in a different solar system and we perceive ourselves to be in and there's lots of aliens around. Okay. And then the final part of it is like a complete reinterpretation of Jesus Christ. Okay. I like that. I'm down. There's something we'll get into some of it here.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The current one kind of sucks. So let's just jump into it. We'll get into some of that here in a little bit, but, uh, the idea that this guy, Brett, I can't remember his last name, who cares, but Brett, uh, set out to remote view the author of the Orantia book and he found Mantis beings. Wait, behind him while he was offering it or just like around him or the inspiration. They were the inspiration for it or whatever, but like, so he was given high fives while writing the book.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I did a lot of looking into the Orantia book. That's a good idea because I was like, what the fuck is this? Okay. So I started looking into it and, uh, so here's the story of the Orantia book. Okay. Perhaps one of the weirdest things that we're ever going to have to have accidentally stumbled into. So this, it was written by this guy named Dr. William Sadler.
Starting point is 00:19:06 All right. I do not trust the doctor in front of his name. He did study with Freud for a year. Well then I really don't trust the doctor in front of his name. So he claimed that he wrote the Orantia book with the help of a mysterious individual, another man. Mantid. No.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Sadler was a Devout Seventh Day Adventist and he was married to Lena Celestia Kellogg, niece of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of corn flakes, founder of the Race Betterment Foundation and all around lunatic. Yeah. Yeah. He was a crazy dude. Man of the three enemas per day is a great way to live your life. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah. Never touch your dick. Oh man. Never. Never. It'll steal your energy. A lot better breakdowns of the Kellogg's have been done and the past is a great dollop about it if you want to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Right. So we're not going to get- Short version. Wackadoo crazy. Nuts. And a lot of it came from here. And a brother with great business acumen who turned corn flakes into something amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 The asshole who is like, clean your butt. Not great. And a lot of it, man, a lot of it had roots in Seventh Day Adventist beliefs. Right. And it had to do with like eugenics, he believes too. Of course. They had a deep interest in- It was really popular at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh yeah. You can't really fault him for that. That's why he started the Race Betterment Foundation. Well, he got a betterment races. So in 19- Have you ever- The Derby was just a few days ago. Those sucked.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah. You need the better horse races. Yeah. So in 1906, John Kellogg's Battle Creek Sanitation, where Sadler had previously been an employee, was becoming really profitable and popular. There's a bunch of celebrities were coming. And the Seventh Day Adventists were all about it because they owned the property where the Sanitarium was.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Right. They were thrilled. However- Is there any more ominous name than Battle Creek Sanitary? That's in Battle Creek, Michigan. So I mean- No, no, no. I get it.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I get it. But Battle Creek Sanatorium is not where I would want to be. Doesn't sound great. No. It's not like, I don't trust their pillows. Even their pillows sound aggressive. So they were thrilled with it at this point because there's a lot of money coming in and everything.
Starting point is 00:21:17 But in 1907, Kellogg took the Sanitarium from Seventh Day Adventist ownership and they defellowshipped him. Because he took his Sanitarium that was super profitable the way they're like, you're out. Basically got excommunicated. And when Kellogg got kicked out of the church- Well, religion is, of course, about money. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And so when Kellogg got kicked out of the church, Sadler left with him. His, I guess, uncle-in-law, it would be, he left with him. Sometime in between 1906 and 1911, Sadler'd become a psychologist and he ended up with a patient with a- Eh. Well, he studied the Troy tree here. Eh. So he ended up with a patient who had a sleep-
Starting point is 00:21:54 That was at the time where he could just be like, I'm a psychologist today. Yeah, no one cared. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he ended up with a patient with a weird sleeping condition. All right. His wife apparently came over and was like, hey, this guy needs, my husband needs your help. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Automatic writing. That might come into it eventually. Okay. So when he slept, he spoke to Sadler and claimed to be an alien. Naturally, being a man of science, Sadler ran some tests on the dude, determined him to be completely sane, and that he was actually channeling aliens in his sleep. What tests could you run to prove that? That little mallet on the knee, the little rubber mallet.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I don't know. What is he, what does he have an EKG at this time? A primitive like, oh, well, clearly he's telling the truth. He ends up observing him for years. So I assume it's just like- Well, yeah, if it's a real alien, of course you're going to get a- I assume the tests are just wait and see. Is he going to show like real manifest signs of Christmas?
Starting point is 00:22:48 So for years, he would converse with his sleeping man and write down what he said often. And that work would eventually become the Urancha book. There's other pieces that end up coming into it. Why is it called the Urancha book? Because Urancha is the name that these aliens say is the actual name of Earth, that other aliens call Earth. That's the official name of Earth. Well, wouldn't our own name for- that's like calling America America instead of whatever
Starting point is 00:23:16 name the native- Les Etatsunis. Yeah, yeah. French calls. No, no, no, no. The First Nations. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, it's our world.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Fuck you. I don't disagree. Call it Earth or Gaia or whatever the fuck you want. It's our world. I would love to scream that at this sleeping man. No, you alien. Earth is for Earthicans. So Sadler would keep this man's identity secret, allegedly because he didn't want any ill repute
Starting point is 00:23:45 to come to him in the case things go bad. But multiple researchers who have looked into it and suggested they believe it was his brother in law, Wilfred Kellogg. So they were running a scam. This is an elaborate scam. So beginning in 1923, Sadler began hosting religious discussion groups in his home, attended by friends, colleagues, and suspiciously, former patients, odd, odd, odd, odd. It's probably just a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:24:14 They're believers. Right. Right. Yeah. Like you cured me. I want to keep up with you. For sure. So in the fourth such meeting, the topic, Eckhart Tolle, all over again, man.
Starting point is 00:24:22 He doesn't have discussion groups with his ex patients. Even he's more ethical than that. Everyone's an ex patient to Eckhart Tolle. It's true. So in the fourth such meeting, the topic of this guy came up that who was talking in his sleep and everyone was interested, Sadler would later report to the group that they had been given permission to discuss what the sleeping man had said and try and come up with workshop.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Good questions to ask next time he goes and talks to him. Now, frankly, all right. That's just a good organization. What do you mean? I mean, that's that's solid planning like we who doesn't want a very solid plan. If you if you know you have a resource to really dig into things, you can't just go in there half cocked. You got to get everybody together.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You get the whiteboard up there or I suppose it would be a chalkboard back and you do the whole thing and you're like, Hey, first question, the fuck. Next question for real, third question. How do you feel about all of this? Right. Right. Do you think it should be called earth? We all do.
Starting point is 00:25:24 So that group would go on to become they become known as the your rancher book forum. And in 1925, they became a formal group. And sworn to secrecy throughout the entire history of the forum. Only five people ever knew who the sleeping man was, including the sleeping man himself. Did he hit the sleeping man's wife, prove it Sadler and his wife. So that's four. Right. There's only one other person unaccounted for who actually knows who the sleeping man
Starting point is 00:25:49 is Kellogg. No. Kellogg is the brother-in-law. No. That's what I'm saying. Sleeping man. That's what I'm saying. No.
Starting point is 00:25:57 The dad. The dad. Yeah. John, John Harvey Kellogg. Who else would know? So in 2016, thousands of pages of actually, you're right. It was FDR is probably he was interested in the spirits president has to know. So in 2016, thousands of pages of diaries kept by forum members, Harold and Martha Sherman
Starting point is 00:26:16 were released. Uh-huh. They paint a portrait of Sadler as a con man, which should surprise no one in them. He describes the papers. Harold describes the papers about the life of Jesus that ended up being channeled as being golden tablets. He describes them as, quote, fictitious, unnatural, hackneyed, uninspired, distasteful, offensive, inconsistent and peppered with cliches and time-worn phrases.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They are poorly written hodgepodge and rotten to the core. That is thorough. He was triggered. That is thorough. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of adjectives. Sure.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I would say shorten it down, but you know what? I'm all for it. Sherman. Actually, just like the golden tablets. I think he nailed it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it became convinced that Sadler himself revised the Jesus papers, perhaps even wrote
Starting point is 00:27:04 portions of them. He constantly lashes Sadler for burning the original manuscripts, making it impossible for future scholars to learn how radically they may have been altered. This is literally Mormonism. Yep. This is literally the same story. Exactly. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yep. Absolutely. I love it. Analysis has suggested that a great deal of the content in the book itself is outright plagiarism. For instance, on page three of the book, there's a long passage on seven ways to define absolutely absolute perfection. The passage is taken...
Starting point is 00:27:32 Greatest memory. The passage is taken almost word for word from philosopher Charles Hart-Shorne's 1941 book, Man's Vision of God. It is a flagrant, shameful plagiarism that could have been the basis for legal action if Hart-Shorne had known about it and wanted to sue for copyright violation. Sure. That is a passage that is read there from noted skeptic Martin Gardner, who wrote a book about the book's history called Yarancha, The Great Cult Mystery.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It lays out numerous additional plagiarisms and also notes the curious presence of very specifically seventh-day Adventist beliefs in the material supposedly channeled from aliens, such as the doctrine of soul sleep and... The what now? They do what now? Soul sleep is the belief that in between lives, like before you come back or anything, your soul is just like nothing. Your soul is resting in between any reincarnations you may have.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That sounds fine. Yeah. Either being a time when like after death or before you were born where your soul was alive. You just keep jumping in and jumping out. Yeah. There's like a rest period. And then the other specifically Adventist belief that they include in there weirdly
Starting point is 00:28:36 is annihilationism, which is the at the end of, I don't know, whenever God wins. Yeah, whatever. A lot of people and fallen angels and shit will just not exist anymore. Their souls will be completely destroyed, whereas... Because they have no purpose left. And a lot of normal Christian doctrine, that's not the case. So it's suspicious. Sure.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Whatever. It's suspicious. All of this is dumb. Christianity, name it. But it is interesting that you have very specifically Seventh-day Adventist beliefs coming through channeled miraculously by this fallen Seventh-day Adventist who left when his weirdo Kellogg uncle gets kicked out of the church and then another relative who's probably the guy who's faking being asleep while they concoct this elaborate narrative.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Also a fallen Seventh-day Adventist. So it seems like maybe those beliefs were just sort of in their heads and came out on the page. Whereas they... Write what you know. They tweaked a number of things. So it's not like it's a direct one-to-one, it's all Seventh-day Adventist shit. But that makes sense too, because they had been years removed from actually being a part
Starting point is 00:29:43 of the church. It just indicates probably whoever wrote it was... Someone off the dome trying to remember it, couldn't find the book? Yeah. And aware of some of the doctrines. So anyway... What are the Seventh-day Adventist texts? Do they Bible it up or do they just like flow?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Let it fly. I think they're into that Bible. But they're into that Bible. The Orantia book was published in 1955 and that's a long time after this group started meeting. One of the reasons that people believe that it took that long and Sadler when it got published was like, I have finally gotten permission that we can publish these from the aliens that they're channeling it from.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Suspicious. The reason that this gardener, he believes, the reason is because a lot of the people in the group were his ex-patients and he was using this as a way of sort of having a cult-like environment where he's the leader and one of the only people with access to information and he didn't want to lose that control by publishing all of this. And so he waited until 1955 to publish it. No, you gotta do that. Now, look, if you're going to lead a cult, you gotta make sure you live it up as long
Starting point is 00:30:58 as you can. Now, Jordan, what? You know where they did this? Battle Creek, Michigan? On the 500 block of diversity here in Chicago. So this is hometown shit? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I love it. We could go to that building. Chicago represent. Yeah, of course. You gotta take a pilgrimage to where the Urantia book happened. I've been outside that building. Yeah, of course. It's not far from my old place.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I don't know. I think like, I don't know. You'd know the building from outside if you saw a picture. It'd be coincidental if it was the Trump Tower. That would be pretty hilarious. That's not on diversity. That would be pretty. And that's not the point, Dan.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I'm trying. I'm making a hypothetical way too far north. I know. Damn it, Dan. But dude, it's like, that's an area. It's like probably over there by, um, don't worry about it. What's that basement? We're not doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:52 What's that base? Don't worry about it. We're not doing this. All right. Which basement bar? The basement bar. Let's do an intro again where it lasts another 10 minutes and we try and forget. Fine.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Whatever. Anyway, I have some problems with the Urantia book based on what are you talking about Galway Bay? Yeah, that's it. There we go. It's over by Galway Bay. Yeah, that's it. You couldn't come up with it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 You could. I was thinking it was Galway Bay. You're being an asshole by vamping and I don't appreciate that. So I have a problem with the Urantia book based on everything I can, uh, I can glean from it. Uh-huh. You have a sociopathic dude who was running a elaborate con and good on him. Never heard of a sociopathic dude doing that before.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Good on him. I respect the hustle, but in, in hindsight, come on now. Oh, also I read a bunch of passages from it and they're all just like they belong on an inspirational word a day calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A day calendar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, it's at that level.
Starting point is 00:32:46 So that's what an alien's bringing. Yeah. Crazy. Turns out, look, frankly, it kind of makes more sense for aliens to be just as vapid as human beings as it does for anything else. Yeah, somewhat. Why would they have a game face on? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So we have, we have my problems with the Urantia book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This transition is painful to me because I've tried it three times now. Not your fault. I've blown it each time. So I, fourth time, fifth time, I have a problem with it. All right. Simon Parks has a different problem with it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Okay. I want to talk about the Urantia book. I have grave concerns regarding this remote viewing and I want to tell you what those grave concerns are. Please do. The Urantia book was actually published in 1955 by the Urantia Foundation, and it's called the Urantia book. In one of the sections, it talks about, I'm going to do it word for word, it says your
Starting point is 00:33:43 world is called Urantia and you are in the planetary system of Satania. That's S-A-T-A-N, Satan, I-A, Satania. Well, there you go. In another section, it says, the grand universe number of your world is 5 trillion, 342 billion, 482 million, 337,666,666. Any book that gives a number of 666 and the word- I'm going to call that true Pentagon investigation, so he's got two things wrong. It's a book that I wouldn't want to use, and I fully understand what that book is about.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And this is all documented, people who go and look this up and they'll see that what I'm saying is truthful. So I have grave concerns about the Aranju book, that's my first point. Fair enough, that's a good point, so that's a good point, we're off to a great start. He thinks it's over the devil. See now, again, again, if he comes to the conclusion that this is a dumb fuck thing to do, what does it really matter why he does? No, no, no, no, you know what I'm saying? Because he does believe, or at least it appears he believes that it was legitimately like channeled.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And the backstory of it is true, it's just that whoever was channeling it got tricked into thinking that it wasn't satanic in nature. That's what he's saying. That's his point? Yes. That's his point? Yes. He got, he got false flagged? Is that what he's saying?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Basically, yes, yes, it's a false flagged channel. Yep, yep, love it. I love it when conmen are like, you got conned. You should listen to my con. Meanwhile, you didn't get conned. No, no, no, no, no. So now we get into his critique of this remote viewing that Brett, whatever, did. Too many adjectives.
Starting point is 00:35:45 So here's, here's his take on it. And again, if the end result is like, yes, this guy is full of shit, then we can agree on that. But boy, the substance is, is different. Here we go. My second point is that half an hour before we went on, one of our listeners sent me a video, which is readily available on YouTube, and it's called the Mantis extraterrestrial everything you need to know. I'm going to repeat that Mantis extraterrestrial everything you need to know.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I have great concerns. First of all, let's take a moment to enjoy Carrie's laugh about like, haha, as if they could put that in one video. Yeah. Also, you didn't need to repeat that. No, it's a very simple title. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again.
Starting point is 00:36:34 There appears to be in the presentation of Brett Stewart that would appear to be lifting directly from this YouTube video, and I'm going to give evidence of that. At the 1.56 minute mark on the video, there is a drawing extremely similar to the drawing that Brett Stewart uses in his presentation, and at the 9.30 mark, he uses word for word the presentation, which is along the words that they wish to conquer rather than see human ascension. So I have great concerns because there appears to be lifting directly from this video. Also, it talks about Mantis having oily skin.
Starting point is 00:37:24 He said that extra joints on their necks and their arms. He said that. That's hardcore rule of threes right there. I'm not. That is exactly. I have this problem with it. I have this problem with it, and let me tell you something, Mantis don't have oily skin under.
Starting point is 00:37:54 No, sir. I like I have to I have to tell you how delighted I was when at the end he's like I am shocked shocked. So basically what he's saying is sir. I will meet you for pistols at dawn. He's saying that Brett Stewart is I mean a hundred percent. What he's saying is that he's plagiarized his remote viewing from this YouTube video. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And he's not talking about Mantis. No, sir. He is not. But we'll get to that in a second. We need to deal with the plagiarism a little more in this next because I want to be clear about this. I believe when you accuse someone of plagiarism, you're invalidating not only the work, you're invalidating their process.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Anyway, here's here's a till you're expelled from this show. You're fine. Here's here is. I can't remember his name. Simon. Here. That's not good. No, I am sleepy.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Here is Simon on the plagiarism issue. So Simon, can I just break in here asking you which came first, Brett's viewing or this so-called website? Great question. 2017. Okay. So it was a year before that's very, very interesting. And you know, just let me say for the viewers that Brett is very well aware that we're
Starting point is 00:39:20 doing this discussion today and he is going to come on my show to discuss his viewing. He's traveling at the moment, but in probably all these weeks and he is an admirer of yours by the way. I guess you know that. Right. Let me make it clear. I've actually gone on public records saying that his work is good. I've said that.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Well, now you're not. I've said that he's very accurate and this is not. What is that? Anybody who knows me knows that I don't do that. That's not what I'm doing. What I'm saying is that I have issues with this particular piece of work. I have issues with this particular remote viewing. I don't have issues with Brett Stewart.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I have issues with this and I'm giving evidence as to where those issues are. That's a weird line to draw. Also, what you asked there, what is that clunkiness? Yeah. I don't have any clips about this because it actually made me kind of sad. You know how like almost you don't know this because you don't watch the actual full videos? Of course. But Carrie always has tech troubles.
Starting point is 00:40:26 There's always long periods where they can't hear each other and they're working out their Skype. Of course. What you need to do is mute your mic when I'm talking and they do that on air and she just releases them. So, in this case, because she couldn't get. We can't give judgment. We have tech issues.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Absolutely. We have one episode lost in a year and a half. When she's doing this episode, she, I don't know why, but maybe because she couldn't use YouTube and she was using Facebook, she couldn't get the picture in a picture going. So instead, she has a laptop that she's holding up that has, no, no, and she's holding it towards the camera. Yes. Away from her.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yes. This is my favorite thing that's ever happened. So you can see assignment. That is the cutest fucking thing. Yeah. That's adorable. It's, it's enterprising. That's like a six year old.
Starting point is 00:41:14 That's what a six year old would do. No, I, I'll, I mean, real talk, well, a six year old in the eighties, like not a six year old. Now they're far more technically capable than she is. I don't, I don't like, I don't like you impugning her for that because I think in a pinch, that's a pretty creative solution. It looks bad. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:32 It's a pretty creative way to do it as opposed to like, we just got audio. We're going live, but I'm going to set my laptop over here with the picture. It, it, oh, I thought she was holding it. She is for part of it. There might be a stand. If you, if you've got it on a table or something, that's fine. But if you're holding it, if you're holding it with your, with your little hand, oh, it's cute.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That's cute. I believe that both happen, but anyway, she has tech difficulties and it's because she's being attacked. It happens. She's being hacked and attacked. YouTube DDoS. So Brett Stewart has clearly plagiarized this based on the evidence they've presented. Obvious.
Starting point is 00:42:09 The other video came out a year before his remote viewing and has certain thematic and verbal, uh, literal verbal similarities in terms of terms of phrase, uses of, uh, of sentences. Well, he remote viewed, uh, into the past, could have remote viewed the video a few days before the video came out. Could be. It's original material. The video actually plagiarized him.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's only that he couldn't write it until after the video was made. Right. He plagiarized it. Yeah. Obviously. Obviously. There's no doubt about that. And Simon is literally saying, um, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:48 And then Carrie says, you know, he's listening and he's a fan and he's like, well, in the past, I have said, I think he's amazing. I think he's a wonderful man. I am talking about this specific, this one time, went off the rails and I wouldn't be a good friend if I weren't calling him out for this, but the implication of this video existed a year before very clearly is instead of remote viewing, what Brett Stewart did is watch this video and then pretend he remote viewed something that is the implication. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:22 I mean, and it looks bad. Oh, it does. It looks bad. All this looks bad, but is there a, but I feel like that's a full stop. So there is a, there is a, but there is a, but there is a, but Brett should not have fucking talked about the mantards. That's a good point. Here's why.
Starting point is 00:43:38 So many reasons. Brett showed, he showed this creature. Can you see that? I've just drawn. Yes. Drawing. Yes. It's not.
Starting point is 00:43:48 In case you didn't hear that, what he said is this isn't the actual drawing. I've drawn a drawing of the one that's in his video, which is so, so, so now if I understand correctly, what is happening in the video is Kerry Cassidy looking at camera. This dude, Simon in the laptop, looking at camera, Simon holding up a drawing. Yes. And it's a drawing of a drawing. This is fantastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:21 This is fantastic. This is an Ouroboros of lunacy. Not the drawing. It's my representation of what I saw. Now, Brett does use the word mantis like, and occasionally he uses the word mantis. This is what the mantis actually looked like. Here's another drawing. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Okay. That's the mantis. This is not a mantis. This is called by the United States military and insectoid. No. They're very different. They're very different. They're very different.
Starting point is 00:44:55 No. Refuse. Refuse. Refuse is my conspiracy alien bullshit to split hairs. I don't like it. We've already dealt with the reptilians and the reptoids. Why not deal with the mantis and the insectoid? No.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't like it. I don't like it. This isn't Starship Troopers. You're doing a baby. Much like on our last episode, Obama told us it's time to put away childish things. Fair enough. Fair enough. This pretty squabble that you have needs to go to bed.
Starting point is 00:45:21 All right. I apologize. You're right. You're right, dad. This is that Brett has seen it's insectoids. Which calls everything into question. Absolutely. Everything into question.
Starting point is 00:45:33 How can you trust this man? It is a whole new ball game. Yeah. And so he believes, look, dude, it's just, he goes on forever about this. It's just, you know, like, hey, the mantis, you know, that, hey, well, how are the mantises good or bad? Are the insectoids good or bad? Are the insectoids more, is insectoid, insectoid more of a general term?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Are we talking like kingdom phylum kind of shit? There's a, there's a, we're going to get to all of it. Don't worry about it. You're getting ahead of the horse. All right. I just have questions. I understand. And these questions would be dealt with, but like, I don't know, I don't know what to
Starting point is 00:46:10 say without giving it stuff away, but it's, but insectoids are not mantises. That's very important. He goes on. I feel like mantises are insectoids though. But all mantises are, no, not all insectoids are mantises. All mantises are insectoids. Right. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:25 That makes sense. Yeah. I don't know if that's the case. If A, then B, if B, then C, but whatever. It's not spelled out like that. So I don't know. And I'm not one to make assumptions about alien phylums and race. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:39 No, of course not. But we don't have the research. Something happened on this episode that straight up blew my mind. Yes. It's taken us a while and having Carrie have bullshit said to her. Yes. That she's just been like, oh, yes. Finally we get one moment where Carrie is like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I don't know about that. Okay. All right. I myself have doubts about the Yirancha book, actually. And that doesn't mean the whole thing is bogus. It just means that there may be some issues there. So that's, I mean, it's, it's jarring for her to have a problem with something. I don't know how I feel.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I don't know how I feel about that. I feel like the equivocating is a little bit like, it doesn't mean it's all bogus. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Come on. If any part of that book is not gospel, none of that book is gospel. If you're in for a penny or in for a pound, exactly, I'm concerned with these sorts of
Starting point is 00:47:37 elaborate. Yeah. So you asked about the mantid agenda and I'm sorry I couldn't ask you answer your question right in a timely fashion. I believe it's about adopting. Yes. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It is about international adoptions. Which I say, like, there are 300,000 kids who are in our orphanage system, I'm fine with mantids adopting. I think we need, I think we need good homes for all of these children, regardless of your insect toy. It's actually part of the Magnitzi Act. Is that what it is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The mantids came to that. Look, man, mantids, you know how Mark Richard says the raptors are cool and that makes us suspicious of him? Right. And the raptors makes it seem like maybe the raptors aren't cool. Right. Apparently the mantids are pretty cool too. So in terms of let to wrap up this mantid agenda, could you wrap it up?
Starting point is 00:48:38 By the way, hasn't started. I'm not. The mantid agenda is assumed, Dan. Absolutely. Everybody already knows. Take it as red. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:52 If you're coming into Project Camelot, you're not. You already know. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Understanding. Tell me what you think the mantid agenda is at this time and then we'll move on to these other subjects.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Sure. The man in the true sense, not the insectoids, the mantids actually want humanity to ascend unlike the grays and the reptilians and AI, which actually want humanity to be bottled up and held in the position for slavery. The reason that the mantis want humanity to survive is that real true mantids come from this earth. They were not brought here and they didn't travel here. They actually are indigenous, something like 144 million years ago when they first evolved.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Was that the cretaceous bird? They are connected to humanity and there's a lot in Brett's presentation, which is, I believe, accurate. I mean, if humanity evolves and goes to the fifth dimension, so will the mantis. Which one is that? Unlike the reptilians, which will be trapped in the fourth and the grays, which will be stuck in the fourth. The mantis have every reason to see humanity evolve.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They do not win if we are stuck in the third dimension. They don't get anything out of it. That's a good point. Quibono! That's a good point. Quibono! Our interests align. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:20 How can you not trust them? So you're asking about the dimensions and this is a part of Illuminati theory that's been going on for a really long time. Is this like transcending outside of time? Yes. It's often called densities. You reach a new density. A new density.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You become... I feel like this is a lot about people who don't understand dimensions. Now, I did a lot of reading on this years ago and so some of it's going to be a little bit spotty. But a lot of this comes from this idea of the Illuminati and what they are is sort of the dark side of whatever. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:51:00 There's a coming point and every time there's something that happens, people online get boners about how this is it, like 2012 was that for a long time. Of course. It's whatever coming point there is, is that is the point when we will either ascend to the next level or stay on the third dimension or fourth dimension depending on whatever definitions you have. Or staying in the third dimension, that makes as little sense as anything. And so the idea essentially is that life and your time in this density or this dimension
Starting point is 00:51:39 is to teach you certain lessons and get you to elevate to the next level specifically in the context of putting yourself before or putting others before yourself. Yeah, I remember that was in a brief history of time, I believe. That was Hawking's main thesis. Was it? You're snickering. Or perhaps the special theory of relativity. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:06 How far back does it go, Dan? It goes at least to Carl Sagan's demon haunted world. Fair. That was about the internet. Yeah. But look, dude, I don't even know how to spell it out. But the point is, there's this belief that we are faced with a crisis that's coming soon and what we need to do is get ourselves elevated, you know, it's all the same.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Talk. Raise your vibration. Yeah. That sort of thing. And so you elevate to the next level as opposed to getting left here. Yeah. And the mantises, the mantids, they're our boys, right? And they come along with us wherever we go because they're from Earth 144 million years.
Starting point is 00:52:46 They came up with spacecrafts or whatever left. I don't know. Why not? Why not? They're not busy. No. I do. I do always find it interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I would pause it. Now, this might be stupid on my part. Could be. I would say that if mantids, and I saw the drawing that he made, they look like bugs. They look like big bugs. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. That's why you call them mantids.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Exactly. They look like the prime mantis. Yeah. So. Is that be great if they didn't? Yeah. If they just look like beetles and he's like, this is what a mantid is, and everybody's looking.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yeah. Hey. It's actually Gary. Hey, guys, turns out raptors look like raptors. Mantises look like mantises. Who would have guessed? Yeah. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It's odd how we give them literal names. It's almost like these are children personifying characters, anthropomorphizing things. It could be. That don't have consciousness. Could be. Could be. So I would say it's difficult for me to imagine that 144 million years ago or so there were mantises that it would have taken them millions of years to evolve into the form of mantis
Starting point is 00:53:57 that would be able to initiate space travel. It was an oxygen rich environment at that time. That's why everybody grew so much bigger back then. Why do we see literally no evidence of any other earth bound sort of coming close to race? They cleaned up after themselves just like God planted the dinosaur bones. No, no, no, no. That was the Jews.
Starting point is 00:54:28 We all know that was the Jews. Yeah. That's what some people believe. Is that what an argument is? Yeah. Jews planted dinosaur bones. Absolutely. I've heard people make that argument.
Starting point is 00:54:37 All right. Fair enough. Yeah. I think that mantises based on their arms being not opposable thumbs and all that. I think they'd have a challenging time cleaning up the earth and leaving behind no sign of them being here. I think also they'd have better at digging though. They got those diggers.
Starting point is 00:54:55 You're not wrong. They got those diggers, man. Come on. And I think that mantis beings are also somehow wrapped up into the hollow earth stuff. So there might be. Of course. When he's saying that they're indigenous to earth, I think there might be some of that wrapped up in there.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Sure. But be that as it may, all this stuff is stupid, but I'm thrilled they're on our side. What I always find fascinating about all of these bullshit theories is that they are always obsessed with the fundamental concept that I think everything, every religion, every belief system is obsessed with, which is the idea of ascension versus slavery. It is a very fascinating thing to me that regardless of what it is you believe, everybody has a general core concept of we're currently at this medium level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 We're in the muck that we could be worse. We could be better. Right. We could be always in the medium. It could be a rock or we could be a light be exactly right. Yeah. It's fascinating to me. And you know, it's even more fascinating when you put it that way.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It becomes really troubling that like a lot of especially western oriented religions, the good ending, you know, like if you play the game right, you get the good, good video game and yeah, that ending is your individuality is absorbed into like God or right those who right get to witness God or whatever your individuality is completely gone. If you succeed or whatever that that to me is, that to me is kind of weird. I don't like that. Why not? I like my individuality.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I like my autonomy. You know, I'm kind of into it. Well, but don't you feel like maybe a lot of your a lot of your third dimension challenge that could be. I have to I have to rise above it. I mean, ultimately, so many of your problems are based in the fact that you have have complete autonomy. You don't like so much or so much of the fair enough fair enough to apologize, even though
Starting point is 00:57:04 we've talked about your problems for countless hours until the first one. I like bad bitches. That's my fucking problem. Yeah, I like to fuck. I got to fuck. Yeah, right. Fair enough, fair enough. Great song.
Starting point is 00:57:15 It's it is it is kind of interesting to me how we all, regardless of where your belief system comes from, we all have this yearning for better. Yeah, but overwriting that is our fear of worse. Yeah, like it's it's ultimately that that risk aversion that everybody has, you know, you would you would rather you would rather avoid losing $5 than win $10. Like it's it's a really interesting thing to me because so much of this. Yeah, yeah, so much of this comes from just this evolutionary need to not get fucked.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Interesting too, though, in that is that all of these, even if you go this crazy route and you're talking about Mantis beings or you go Christianity, even other religions, earthbound religions, right? You know, you know, you go across the gamut, one of the connective tissues and one of the threads through almost all of it is this is meat. Yeah, like this flesh body, right, is an inconsequential and doesn't matter. Right. It seems like that is a through line through everything.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Like the that's the prison. Yeah, the prison is the flesh. Right. That seems to trans that goes through new age thinking that goes through old time thing that's Gnostic, like all of it, every single, but you have to do that because visceral impulses are really powerful. Yeah. And if you want to get people to fall into your line of thinking, you have to convince
Starting point is 00:58:49 them that like, oh, yeah, your base or impulses. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely. It is it is the the through line to all of these religions that ultimately invalidates all of them equally. Yeah. Like if you if you believe in Christianity, your end goal is the exact same as the guy who believes in mantids. Yeah, it doesn't matter because there's there is a fundamental conflict between
Starting point is 00:59:19 consciousness and instinct, and we're not capable of processing those things. That may be the case. Yeah, I'm still not hanging out with Simon Parks. No, OK, he seems fun. I would love to get a driving test from him. Oh, that'd be amazing. But he'd be teaching you to drive on the wrong side of the road because he Oh, that guy's that's his real craziness.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I cut out a bunch of stuff to drive in the fifth dimension, man. That's the right side of the road, left side of the road. So I cut out a bunch of this stuff because they end up talking politics a bunch. And why? Simon knows a lot. I don't know. Right. Well, he was a council member.
Starting point is 01:00:01 What are his political beliefs? He believes that the Syrian stuff was a false flag. That's not great. No, not off to a good start. But I only bring that up. It's really it's really boring, but I bring it up because it's like, oh, this is the same as Alex, you know, it's yeah, it's one of those points where like I think a lot of people who listen, not a lot of people, but I'm sure
Starting point is 01:00:21 there is a small minority, at least, that's like, why do you cover Project Camelot? And because you've got to recognize that a lot of the time, they believe the same thing. Yeah, it's just Kerry talks about this other Mantis and Mark Richard ship. Ultimately, we get to the same conclusion right on these guys. So there's, there's that Syria against tech is a false flag stuff. Also, I don't think anybody has asked us the question. Why do you cover this stuff?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Right? No, I ask it in my head though. Yeah, you're you're just you're preemptively being like, everybody's asking me this question. Not everyone's asking me, but like I do, I do feel it like it's weird. It's weird that we're in Alex Jones podcast and then for some reason, we just fucking talk about because it's the same shit. It is.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It's all it's the same. Everyone's a con man. Look, we could, we could talk about mega churches. It'd be the same shit. Yeah, yeah, what we have. Yeah, that's true. We talked about that one. You talk about that homophobic preacher.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah, you talk about the prosperity gospel. It's the same fucking shit as Mantis. Who gives that to a certain degree? It's the same fucking bullshit. So they also talk about just there's a bunch of them. Like they there's pro Russia leanings. There's pro Putin leanings, even though Simon has come out and said that the Nordics are advising Putin.
Starting point is 01:01:36 There there is, but he's still he's saying things negative about Putin. But based on reality, it's like you're letting him off the hook for things. You know, like the well, the Nordics were the reason that the Holocaust happened. Well, it wasn't it wasn't nationalist Germany. It was it was Nordics and the Greys, who are mercenaries. They don't even yeah, they don't even give a fuck. They they they the particular thing that they talk about is the gassing of that spy in London.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Uh-huh. And it's another Simon, I'm sure, has a lot of thoughts about that. Well, it's like it was an agent of some sort, but it wasn't Putin. He wouldn't have done something like that. But I was brain man. It sure fits in with everything Putin's ever done. Yeah, and that's what he kind of is. That's what he says.
Starting point is 01:02:21 That's what he says. That's what he says. And that is why it has to be a false flag. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It's too obvious to obvious to obvious. They knew that Putin has a history of gassing people.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And so they gasped people in order to make it look like him. Right. Right. Right. Uh, I don't like the idea of states being copycat killers. That doesn't that doesn't amuse me. The other thing, although that might as well be true. The other thing that I forgot to bring up is in the conversation
Starting point is 01:02:52 of the Syria being a false flag stuff, what they were getting to at the end was that the cabalist cabal, the Zionist cabal in Israel, okay, really behind it behind it. So there is a always comes back to anti semitism. Well, but here's the problem. It's like, yeah, Israel is doing a lot of fucked up shit. But the way I know Israel is run by Nazis now, which is fascinating. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 But if you want to talk about the lovely, if you want to talk about the real stuff, talk about it. But if you want to talk about like these bizarre conspiracy theories and then throw Israel in it, I'm going to guess that you have a different angle on it than I do. Like me. It feels very weird. And I don't think Israel should colonize the West Bank because
Starting point is 01:03:36 they're run by the goddamn reptoids. We need to bring in the rafters. Yeah. So it's just weird. Uh, so they did all this politics stuff. And I'm sorry, there's been a lot of talking, but it gets to probably my favorite thing that's ever happened on Project Camelot. There is a fucking, this is so weird.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I don't even know how to set this up. And there's no fucking need to just enjoy this shit. President Trump actually stood up to the North and said, I've had it. I've had it with you. He's talking about North and South Korea. He's, uh, he's saying that Trump finally put pressure on it. That's what's going to solve it. Sure.
Starting point is 01:04:14 It's not important to what happens. I just wanted to give you context. Okay. I'm going to blow you to pieces. And China and Russia actually said to America, go ahead and do it. And the reason why did this change of face was because North Korea had developed nuclear weapons and a missile that could reach not American real estate, but anything to do with China and Russia.
Starting point is 01:04:42 So what we had was for the first time in many, many years, an agreement that North Korea had gone too far. Now there's also, uh, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds who both financially controlled the North and the South. And they then came to an arrangement that they would withdraw. So President Trump, ah, we have, uh, we have Kerry. Got a lot of coffin. You got a lot of coffin.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Love it. Um, and then at the end there, we have the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Of course they control North and South Korea. Absolutely. They control everything. Are they just one control the North and one control the South? Is it a proxy war between the Rockefellers? Simon Parks is caught back in the 2009 era of where Alex Jones's conspiracy
Starting point is 01:05:27 mindset is now granted. I think I have heard Kerry talk about Soros too. Like I've heard her bring him up, right? But this guy isn't. Simon's not bringing him up, but we should see again, another parallel there to those two worlds, bringing up the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds as big villains. My, my general operating theory now on North Korea is that, uh, they realized
Starting point is 01:05:54 that their nuclear program wasn't actually going to work. Um, and they're, if you, the more, the more I read about the whole situation, the, uh, the, uh, nuclear testing site that they have that was a underground or whatever essentially collapsed. That's one of them. Yeah. There's other tunnels. No, I understand that, but I, I'm, I'm fairly certain at this point, they're
Starting point is 01:06:18 kind of like, Oh, they figured it out. I'm 50, we're bluffing. I'm 50, 50 on it. That, that is one possibility. Another possibility is that, um, negotiations are being done under sort of like differing pretexts. Like the idea that he's offering some sort of denuclearization. Um, if you look at his statements, they do seem to imply that we have to also
Starting point is 01:06:42 like the expectation is like, we can have an agreement, but everyone gets rid of nukes. Oh, that's good. That's actually a good negotiating position for them. It's a great, I, I like the world. The problem is I'm kind of on the side now of everybody should have nukes. Yeah. Like, like realistically what America and Russia should do is give our nuclear
Starting point is 01:07:03 stockpile. Like everybody gets 10 now. You know what I'm saying? Like that way you're not, we're not invading Iran. Iran's got 10 nukes. We've got 10 nukes and now it's an equal distribution of mutually assured destruction, Jordan. Now I don't, I like why you can't trust America with anything.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Jordan, we are fucking insane. Let me introduce you to my dear friend, Ali North, the new head of the NRI. I think, I think you two now have a lot in common because you have just described their position on gun rights. I know. No, I mean more. Well, the problem is, uh, uh, gun rights are slightly different in so far. As, uh, Oh, tell me, tell me how this is an equal position.
Starting point is 01:07:47 What do you mean? I mean, uh, compare these two having nukes in order so no one can aggress upon each other is everyone has guns. So no one can be violent with each other. That does it. That's not the same thing. It is on a macro scale on a macro scale. It's a very different situation.
Starting point is 01:08:03 No, just think of one of the, one of the states as people, but that's a ridiculous concept. That's like whenever people say ridiculous. That's when people say, uh, uh, the, the country should be run like a household. Everybody, if we need to tighten our belts, that's not how that actually fucking works. Everything we're discussing. Well, all right, but this is where we got to get into it.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I don't like that. Cause that is a false equivalence. No, it's not. I disagree entirely because of your position. Well, because killing is killing, you know, I understand killing is killing. I get that, but what, what are you, what are you talking about? The threat, uh, uh, at its core is death, whether it's mass death or your death, your individual, I would massively prefer nobody had nukes.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Don't, don't disagree. Don't, uh, don't misunderstand my position. I don't, I didn't accuse you of having that position. Number one position is no guns, no military, no fucking nukes. That's why number one position, but if you have, if you have two massively nuclear powers who are capable of, uh, uh, threatening everybody else at this point in time in a, uh, a fucking international concept, the only way to avoid being invaded is to have that nuclear strength.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Like you look at the, you look at the shirt, but look at it this way. Yeah. You have two powers that have tons of guns, gangs and cops. How are you going to protect yourself from both of those? Got to have a gun. It's not a good metaphor. No, it's not. Who cares?
Starting point is 01:09:34 All right, let's move on. Fine. I'm, I'm mad at you. Let's agree to disagree. Uh, um, so remember how Carrie was coughing? She was soul coughing actually. That doesn't stop. She does.
Starting point is 01:09:47 She runs around in circles. Round in circles, round in circles. Great. Sorry. Sorry. It's a, it's, um, actually it's pro pro energy attack against you. Right. So, um, anyway, um,
Starting point is 01:10:05 So, Carrie's like, sure, Simon, sure, it's an energy attack against me. Thanks, Simon. I could just have a dry throat. That's what you think? Wait, she's going to jump back. Wait, no, wait, no. I don't know, you know, how much you pay attention or hear anything about my work. But, uh, recently, Mark Richards actually leaked something that was very, very
Starting point is 01:10:38 interesting and, uh, it is about North Korea and maybe this is why, um, what's happening there, attacking, attacking my, my throat chakra is being. Yeah, that, that is, that is, that is a satanic attack on you. Okay. I want you to, to really just protect yourself now. You've got a lot of love from all of your audience and me. Um, and this, this attack just has got to stop. It has just got to stop.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Okay. Thank you. Wow. Wow. Ah, wow. I, I just got taken back. I just got taken back to when I was, when I was growing up, my, my mom was really, really sick one night in the middle of the night.
Starting point is 01:11:23 She was so sick, like she was like screaming out in pain, woke up the whole family, even in the basement. And we're all just running into the, into my parents' bedroom. And we're like, for real, this, what's, what the fuck is going on? And my dad's like, it's fine. I'm laying hands on her and praying. And I was like, 911 immediately. Like, get there, get this, no, no, no, no, fuck your, fuck your laying hands on bullshit.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Oh wow. 911, please, excuse me, yeah. This is, this is the same fucking, oh, we're going to give your, we're going to give you energy where there's a lot of love to protect you against this satanic energy, fuck off. Spoiler alert. She does fuck off. She coughs later.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah, of course she fucking does. Cause she didn't take a drink of water, but like, she didn't take a drink of water. Not on camera. That's not hard. No, but maybe she didn't have a bottle handy anyway. All right. Look, I just love, I love bullshit. This is the first thing that I'm real mad about.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I love the idea that you thought that she was dismissive of his idea that it's an energy attack. I for real thought that. Of we're talking about, no, but I was really, I was really hoping Dan was really hoping no such luck, no such luck. So at this point, I want to play a couple clips of just like pretty close similarities between Simon Project Camelot and Alex Jones in his first one. He talks about Brexit.
Starting point is 01:12:51 One of the primary reasons that Great Britain voted to leave the European Union, because night after night after night, Premier Television showed hundreds of thousands of people streaming across borders. And that made Great Britain's majority of people vote to leave Europe. So that's one very important, mustn't be underestimated effect of that. If you take a country and you try to change its value based system by introducing people who are not of your country, you will cause riots and revolution.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And I believe in many cases, that's exactly what they intended. You spoke about France. So cultural replacement is behind the fears and they are doing that intentionally. That's exactly what Alex says. Yeah. That's a hundred percent his whole idea about the globalists and how they're trying to have no borders and flood us with people with different cultures. And we're all going to have our white people replaced.
Starting point is 01:13:54 They're false flagging us. That's really ridiculous. Yep. That's ridiculous. I mean, in a certain sense, whether his assessment is accurate or not, I don't want to talk about that. In a certain sense, it kind of is. Like essentially what he was saying is that propaganda made people afraid.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Propaganda about cultural displacement is effective. Yeah. Yes. 01:14:13,580 --> 01:14:14,180 Yes. I'll agree with that. Yeah. He was like, he was, he was so, he was like, and again, in a certain sense, if
Starting point is 01:14:21 he had said Cambridge Analytica instead of Raptors, I'd have been like, you're pretty close to the. To be fair, Simon doesn't talk much about the Raptors or whatever. He talks about the Mantis, but this is just the global. Well, the Mantises are the good ones. So they're not the ones orchestrating this. He's talking about the Insectoids, right? No, no, this is just about the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers and stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Well, fair enough, the human powers, as it were, as it were. But they're being advised by the Nordics. There's no doubt about that or the Greys. Yeah. So also another thing that Alex has been really talking about a lot is 5G technology. Right. Doesn't seem to really understand that the G just stands for generation. And we've done this a bunch of times in terms of upgrades and technology that we're
Starting point is 01:15:07 we're able to have. And every time there's been lunatic fringe groups that have been like, no, fight the future, fight the idea of everyone having access to the internet. Well, yeah. It's terrifying. Yeah. And so that's why we should deregulate what? So anyway, Alex hates 5G and turns out Simon, of course, Simon.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Simon hates 5G, his argument a little different. Mark Richards talks about the AI. The problem we've got is that there is one faction attempting 5G, or as they say in other countries, G5, which is a very high frequency form of Wi-Fi, which will allow a fourth dimensional entity to exist in that and will infect humans and will try to mass brain wipe or brain control large numbers of the population. And the reason that Mark Richards is probably not allowed to go public is
Starting point is 01:16:10 because there is, as we speak, a battle being fought between the Cabal group and the good guys as to what is the outcome of. So that could be the reason. A fourth dimensional entity is going to come in. The idea that AI is attempting 5G and then and then the classic con man move of this is something you understand. So I'm going to rename it into something that I only understand. It's G5.
Starting point is 01:16:44 You know, like that kind of that kind of bullshit always always so always so fucking childish me. That's what it is. Yeah, perhaps that's what it is. So yeah, I only played that clip and played the last two to specifically point out that like there's thematic correlations between the things that they're afraid of in project Camelot world and an info wars world. Change more or less.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I don't like it. Neighbors, so the other thing is that last month, Simon Parks got fired from a radio show that he did. He's doing a radio show on top of teaching driving. Yeah, he was he was doing a radio show of some sort and he got into a little bit of we could never get a radio show. Yeah, we could. No, we could not.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Yeah, we could. We just have to go to like a really low rent like operation. All right, there's literally, but it wouldn't help us. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that in our world there are. Look, when I say radio show, no, no, no, I'm okay. Nevermind. Clarify.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I mean like an online hub of places where they just put out content or whatever feel like they still wouldn't allow us. Someone would, but like, you know, wait, what did that guy say about white genocide? No, no, no, no, no, no. Raptors, please see soft. Yes. Podcast network. So he had a show.
Starting point is 01:18:16 We are going to have eventually we will branch out into a five percent nation only podcasts. So we get ghost face on that'll be fun. Hell yeah. So he got he got in trouble got kicked off this this this radio network. And one of the, because he got into a fight with another YouTuber who talks to aliens and she was making love the world I get to live in because of you. She was making some accusations and like, I don't think a lot of them are true.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Probably I don't know what the deal is. I don't know what the deal is, but some of them were pretty fucking rough. Like to the point where I don't even want to repeat them on air. Like they are like they're things that you think your opinions wouldn't be printable. Well, if not true, he should sue. You know what I'm saying? Okay, it's that level.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Okay. So many things, but one of the accusations that was made was that he defrauds old women of money and I don't know if it's specifically old women. Yeah. What are we talking about a Larry Nichols here? Come on. I went to his, I went to his website, simonparks.org spelled P a R K E S and he provides some services.
Starting point is 01:19:27 So British 50 pounds for 30 minutes. 100 pounds for an hour. He'll give you a soul reading. Those are sex line prices. No, sir. No soul reading allows Simon to connect with the client's soul and thus determine their star family heritage star family. Like, uh, like, like Beetlejuice.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Like what are we talking about the Beetleguides? Yeah. Oh, is that? Oh, I don't know. I don't get his Beetlejuice spell like that. All right. Um, also he'll just do a general consultation where you can just talk about whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Also still a hundred pounds for an hour. All right. Uh, also he does deep programming and mind healing. Wouldn't it be amazing if he was actually a really great therapist? He fixes demonic possession. You could call a lot of my mental illnesses, demonic possession. A number of clients are afflicted by dark energy beings. The gin being one of them.
Starting point is 01:20:20 The gin, the gin. Where did it? Where did it? When did, uh, Arabic mythology get jumped into this play? All right. In those cases where the client wishes to expel slash be free of such entities, Simon is also able to bring this about in the meantime, you can go. I just want to expel them.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I don't want to be free of them. You just want him to hang out. I just want to, I just want to get him out and just like, I just want to have a ghost friend on my shoulder. Um, so yeah, he, uh, he does all this for over Skype or over the phone for a hundred dollars an hour, which a hundred pounds an hour. Yeah. Which is more than a hundred dollars an hour.
Starting point is 01:20:53 That's like what, what's the exchange rate now? That's like a hundred and twenty bucks an hour. I can't afford that. And so it's not great. I don't know if he's defrauding people, but boy, it smells like it. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway,
Starting point is 01:21:04 what's the, what's the ad they do for, uh, like talktherapy.com or whatever it is, talk space. That's it. I'm sure the rates on that are great. 01:21:13,220 --> 01:21:13,300 Yeah. Yeah. Let's see if we can get him to buy ads on like the dollop has talk space and we
Starting point is 01:21:19 get this fucking guy. I would not take that ad. I'll tell you that right now. No, I don't think so. Yeah. I don't think I would take a talk space ad either. I think they're probably a borderline scam. 50 50 on it.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yeah. No idea, but I just, I haven't looked into it. Don't want to comment. Um, I have one last clip. This is the short. This is the punchline. Boy. Boy.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Howdy. Uh, I've met Mark Richards's wife. Um, and as far as I'm concerned, they're incredibly genuine. I've never met the man that I met his wife and I followed the work. Absolutely convinced that he should, he should not be jailed. He should be released immediately. No, no, he was involved in a fucking murder. I believe that Joanne Richards is genuine.
Starting point is 01:22:08 That's not what I've ever taken issue with. I've taken issue with the fact that she's, uh, uh, being defrauded, right? Is actively participating in that fraud. Right. All right. Um, so that's how many, I don't, don't like, uh, shit ton of serial killers wind up getting like, uh, let love letters and naked pictures from random ass women.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yeah, absolutely. Like that's, that's what's going on here, except it's just aliens. Yeah. Yeah. It's slightly more fun because it's, uh, at least shows a bone of creativity. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Uh, but I assume for Mark Richards, it's less fun. Nothing's that fun. I think you would prefer life in prison. I think you would prefer, uh, nudie mags or nudie pics or whatever it is. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So anyway, uh, Simon Parks has a baby, uh, with an alien called the cat goddess. And where's his baby?
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yeah. No, she's in space. Probably, I don't know. He doesn't seem too concerned with it. Why is a driving instructor? Why do they meet four times a year? Like specifically, so it's, so it's all the solstices. All right.
Starting point is 01:23:10 All right. If they didn't fuck the seasons wouldn't, that's, that's a good point. That's what I like to say. That makes perfect sense. Oh, I'm exhausted to talk about this specificity of four times a year. Yeah. It's very, he doesn't even say about four times a year. He's like four times a year, specifically four times.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Yep. Yep. Jordan, we got to shut this down. All right. All right. I am exhausted of talking about this, uh, this guy who, well, as we all know, I aliens live in the temperate zone. So they prefer four seasons as opposed to two.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Absolutely. They definitely can't go to, uh, uh, an article that. No, like, uh, China or, or the, you know, they don't, they don't allow like monsoon season. How dare they can't live in Hawaii? No, no, no, no, of course not. Um, brutal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Never go to volcanoes. So we have a website called knowledge fight.com. We do. That was my way of not trying to, yeah, yeah, five, five, five dad. Uh, we're on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight. We're on Facebook. We are on Facebook. You can go to the, the iTunes.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Make sure you recommend us to all the dugs and all the mics. We need them. We need, we need them desperately. Yeah. Um, what else do we got? Space. Space. You can find us in space.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah. Uh, yeah. We're hanging out with the mantids. We, uh, currently we are only, uh, capable of existing in the fourth dimension, but perhaps someday knowledge fight will ascend. Yes. We're working on it. We and the mantids are trying to make it work.
Starting point is 01:24:40 And I think there's only one, uh, possible way to, uh, to end this. Uh, I think you have to say, go fuck yourself. Insectoids. Andy and chance us. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Well, Alex, I'm a person in color. I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I love your work. I love you.

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