Knowledge Fight - #165: Rotondo, Round 2

Episode Date: May 30, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan about how Alex Jones completely lost his mind in a live video he streamed on May 25th, 2018 when he took another stab at trying to be a father figure for Michael Rotondo, the 30 year old who got kicked out of his parents' house. It may seem like this is too much Rotondo for this podcast, but please believe that this is not about him. This is all about Alex Jones being a complete lunatic.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. And indeed, we are Dan. Dan. What up? Dan. Playboy. Say we were, uh, it was, it's a hot summer's day. It's pretty, it's pretty warm here in the shy. I'll tell you there is a, there is a, a classic Chicago guy, the guy who leaves his house wearing a button-up

short sleeve shirt with no undershirt beneath it. Classic guy. Starts drinking around one PM, leaves the bar around six, begins walking, notices there's a nice breeze, unbuttons his shirt entirely. Are you talking about yourself? With his gut hanging out. Have you been day drinking and hiding your gut? You saw this man. Oh, okay. This is sort of like the guy who I saw the other day, tiptoe, chasing people around. I would tell him my, Hey, everybody, uh, I call him everybody. You would call him everybody. I'd say, Hey, I got a podcast about Alex Jones.

I know about a lot about him. My friend doesn't. And then I'd slap his belly for good luck. That's a good idea. Happy memorial day. Exactly. Uh, to the chat room. This is not a hipster shirt. This is designed as a peps shirt, but it's like a Lovecraft shirt. Yes. So it's, you have a theme. I just, my brother, every, every birthday or Christmas, he tends to give me a Cthulhu themed gift. Um, and that ends up being a bit of my wardrobe because I never buy clothes. So I end up having a couple of Lovecraft shirts and that's why, but I guess that is actually even more hipster. There you go. I will accept my fate.

Hold on, sir. I'm not a hipster. I'm one of the elder ones. Right. I celebrate the, yeah, it's more nerdy than anything else. And new Jordan, we got a fun episode to go over today. Uh, but before we get to it, I'd like to say thank you to a new donor. Uh, someone donating to the show. Very excited. This is someone who's been down to clown for a while. All right. Someone from, uh, who's been listening since back in the, uh, freezing point days. Okay. I know that because he has the best name in the world. What's going on out there, Scrump. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you so much, Scrump. Thanks for joining up with the team. Calm down, Jordan. Don't laugh at my boy, Scrump. Anyway, what? Okay. We can just move along. Uh, so, Scrump. Yeah. People have names. All right. Uh, so speaking of names, I'd like to also give a new name in title form, a new automatic name. All right. Uh, to someone who's, uh, certainly, uh, you know, merits this title, we're giving out the, uh, the next in the raptor princess. Oh, okay. All right. All right. There we go. Someone who's, uh, been super supportive. Uh, it is a big help. I really appreciate everything

he does. Uh, congratulations, prop do. You are now a raptor princess. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy shark. Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. I know how to read. I am out of control. I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.

I really haven't. I bet you money, there are a few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people at all. Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses, complete studs. Welcome to McDonald's. May I help you? I'm Benny Sanders. Yeah. Hell yeah. Shout out. All right. All right. That, uh, that, that, that is maybe now too long. I think way too long. If we, if we incorporate another level, we're forward. No, it's over with.

Anyway, if you're using the, uh, Apple podcast app, just hit the 15 seconds, about six times, and then you're done with that club. Yeah. So Jordan, I got, I got a couple pieces of business to take care of before we get to today's episode. Sure. Sure. First order of business. I, um, I did announce this on one of our live streams, but I ended up cutting it out of the episode that we released because I thought that the way I framed it was poor. Okay. Shitty. All right. So you've had some time to think about it. Well, yeah. You've written in your dream journal. I would like to, uh, propose a new, uh, goal. I do. Uh, thank you. No, I've already married to Penny in Stardew Valley. I'm sorry.

I cannot marry you, Jordan. Um, I'd like to suggest a couple months back, we, uh, had a little bit of a drive, uh, towards the raising, uh, a certain amount of donations that would trigger us, uh, launching into our end game coverage, which ended up, uh, being nine hours long and, uh, exhaustively, uh, defeating. Yeah. Defeating. Yeah. Um, describing and breaking down what the kind of bullshit he was throwing around there. I, uh, would like to do a similar thing with Alex Jones's, uh, spiritual Bible, the book that woke him up. None dare call it conspiracy. Right. However, I've been going through it and I realized we can't do it as a podcast. It would be 30 hours long. Right. So I have begun essentially writing a book

about why this book sucks. Okay. Because I'm going line by line through this fucking thing. All right. And deconstructing so much of why it's wrong, all of the context they're getting off, how many, uh, let's say Nazi apologist propagandists are quoted as primary sources, uh, mysteriously, things like that. Um, and I'm realizing like, this is just going to be a disaster. We can't do it as a podcast. Okay. So from what I understand correctly, your next marathon reward that will be, uh, uh, given out as we reach some sort of goal, uh, is going to not feature me at all. Yes. Less work for you. Yeah. I mean, you could, off the hook. You could help proofread. I'll tighten up your language a little bit. Oh no. Cause you always tell me to stop using

the past. I've been, I'm telling you, dad, just, just let me go. Let me run over it with a red pen. Passive voice for life. No. Uh, so this isn't going to come out as a book necessarily, but it will probably be book length. Um, as we get to the end of it, uh, it'll be up on knowledge fight.com. It'll be a series of blog posts that'll all, uh, just be deconstructing all of this. Um, and I will begin to release it. What I, the incentive that I am going to propose, and maybe people think this is stupid, but I don't want people who already donate to the show to feel like they need to, uh, give more and be feel like they have to like maybe donate more than they're comfortable with or, or anything like that. I hate any kind of, because people would

want this to be released. And I don't want that. I think some people would. And I don't want them to feel like I'm going to give more money and make this happen. So what I'm going to like a lot of Kickstarter rewards are things that are positive, right? Instead of, Hey, I am going to, uh, punish you with a book report. Yeah. Um, so why I, I propose and whatever we'll see, uh, is, uh, 15 new donors, new donors from the time that we're recording this, which is Memorial Day, 2018 until the end of June. Right. So throughout the month of June, if we can get 15 new donors, we will have our Easter sale. Yes. And then 30% off to donate. And I will begin releasing the posts, uh, about what's wrong with non-dare colleague conspiracy and why only a

stupid person would ever fall for the bullshit that's listed with it, or that's written about within it on, uh, starting on July 1st. All right. So that is the next incentive goal we have. And if anybody would like to donate, you can go to knowledge fight.com, click sport the show. Sorry. July 1st will be our new independence day when we declare independence from non-dare colleague conspiracy lizard folk. The lizard folks. Yes. I thought they were part of the good guys. No, raptors, reptoids, whatever. Okay. Um, so, uh, the other thing, um, is I am nothing if not, uh, full of, uh, desire to correct myself. Yeah. Um, and so I needed to, I need to call myself out about this on the last episode. I ended up cutting out something at the beginning

after we released it. So some people heard the version that has this in it, and some people would have heard the version that doesn't. And just because I'm, uh, I like to smite myself, um, I was operating on a little bit of lack of information about the 1500 children who, uh, I've gone missing from the, uh, right, right, right. Immigrant children. Yes. I conflated a couple of things and I, I, I spoke of that in an irresponsible way. Okay. And I felt bad about that. So I cut it out of the episode and I would like to call myself out on it in case people heard it, uh, before I had taken it out and talk about that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the, the, the splitting up families and the children who are unaccounted for are completely different, uh, stories and

conflating them is possibly not the right thing to do. I don't, I don't know enough about it. Right. On the, on the other hand, both are staggering evil. So I mean, it's six, six and one hand, half a dozen in the other kind of situation because I read an interesting why is either of those fucking things happen? Well, because I looked more into that 1500 children thing. I read an interesting perspective on it where a lot of the people who are reported as in, uh, in town hall, they said, do we like kids? It's not that it's that they're released from custody to people like who might be family members or might be a friend of the family or something like that. So when they're checked up on to see where their whereabouts are,

it's possible that they're like the person who's taken care of them and is their guardian doesn't want to answer questions. Yeah. No, run, run, run. So, run. So then being on, go hide them being unaccounted for doesn't necessarily mean they're in a negative situation. They might just be with guardians who don't want to deal with the government, rightfully so, considering what they're up to now. No, we live in a, we live in a world where like a hundred years from now, if we found a thriving civilization in a forest somewhere, then their legend was like, well, the white man came to take us away. We'd be like, oh, yeah, no, that was ice. Sorry about that. That was America. My bad. My bad for creating a whole secret society or whatever. But yeah,

I just felt like a bit of a dumbass. When I looked more into it, I was like, I feel like we should have, you know, be completely above board and apologize, you know, for speaking a little bit too flippantly. Now granted, some of those people could be in negative situations. I hope that's not the case. But we don't know, I don't know enough. And I don't think we know enough. Pretty sure the crushing daily fear of a horrific government changing the rules on you at any given moment and destroying your life. Even if you're with a good home, that's usually a fucked up way to feel about yourself. That other stuff, I stand by what we said, the nice fuck themselves. Yeah, they go fuck themselves. Yeah. So anyway, the other thing is I need, I need to give another

correction. Right. On our last episode, we talked about Michael Rotondo, the 30 year old guy who's getting evicted from his parents' house. Yeah. And he was on Alex's show. And I need to issue a correction. They did another episode. What? Here's an out of context drop. We're going to be going over today. What? But in closing, I just want to say that I don't think you're a loser. Thank you. Yeah. They after in closing, in closing, I don't think you're a loser. Wait, thank you. But they kept going. I thought we figured out how to be a surrogate father pretty quick there and how he was failing at it miserably. Yeah. So this is him trying to correct his own mistakes. Part two, the never ending story. What ended up happening is he had him as a guest on the show. Yeah,

they talk for a good hour and a half. They do that infowars employee roulette where everyone's trying to cut them out. Creepy as fuck. It's insane. Then the war room comes on or whatever. Why? Alex and Michael Rotondo, the 30 year old whose parents took him to court to kick him out of the house who also has a conviction for stalking. They sit down across a table from each other and have a bull session because Alex realizes he you hit the nail on the head. He realized he didn't do a good enough job of being this guy's daddy. Right. And so he's got to try again. Wait, so he goes on a different show? No, no. Isn't the war room supposed to be a different show? This isn't on that show. This is, I think it's recorded while that show is happening, but it's in a side

studio. Like they're in the back. They're behind them. Yeah. Yeah. Might as well be. So they're in a side studio. Hey guys, could you knock it down? We're trying to record a show in here. No, no, no. We're trying to record a show in here. Just oh and knocking on the wall, hitting the wall with a broom. So I normally would say, all right, we fucked up, man. We talked about the episode already. We can't go back to the well. And we've never really done this necessarily. Been like, okay, here's part two of this. I don't, I don't think we've done that a lot, but I listened to this. There's not more. Oh, there's not more. There's so much more. It's a weird guy, weird situation. No, no, no, no. Weird shit's happening. Alex is weird trying to save white

people from themselves. Take the weird guy completely out of the equation. This is all about Alex. Oh, we understand that. Yeah. And this goes so deep into Alex. He says he gets so esoteric. He gets, he's talking in riddles. He seems slightly dusted. All right. Okay. All right. He's this close to being like, there's two of me. One only tells the truth. One can only lie. He's back. He's so close to it. This goes so far off the rails. There's no way around it. Okay. We have to play it. We have to go over it. All right. But then the other thing is, there's one more correction I need to make before we get onto the show. And this is something that I meant to say on the last episode, and I didn't make it clear enough. And I really regret it.

And I was thinking about editing into the episode, just a little bit of my voice being like, so here. And then pretend that you just didn't respond to it. Yeah. Yeah, that would have sounded really natural. That's cheap. Yeah. So the thing that I didn't make clear enough is that and then Pucci went back to his home planet. Michael Rotondo is 30 years old, right? How long is he? How long did he say he's been living with his parents? At least since alien Gonzalez said eight years. He's been living with his parents. Okay. How old was Michael Rotondo when he got arrested for stalking a woman? 22 22. Hmm. The reason he probably moved back in with his parents was because he got arrested for stalking a lady. Hmm.

So that is not really prove those timelines. Yeah. You can make a pretty strong argument. I don't know. I withhold judgment. Oh, hey, also get this. He has a different address when he was arrested. So he's clearly living on his own. Right. So he was living on his own when he got arrested for stalking a lady. Yeah. Yeah. And then oh, and seriously, at some point a little bit later that year, he moved back in with his parents. No, I respect where you're coming from here. I get that. Coincidences can happen. Fuck you. It's possible. Who knows? Also to the chat room before we get into this. Yes. Still not smoking over a week now, baby. Now let's do this. Yeah. Jordan. What are we doing? This is so fucked up. What is happening? So the the episode. So Alex is if I

let me let me make a prediction here. I love I love a prediction. Alex is gonna be wrong no matter what Alex is going to attempt to channel the ghost of his father's parenting through this child and speak to it in the past as though it is something that he wishes had been happened to him. My friend, there will be ghosts. Okay. Anyway, yeah, the episode starts or the video starts the live stream. It's an hour long and it starts with, I don't know, at least like 10 seconds of Alex not there. Mike Rotondo sitting alone at a table fiddling with the mic. Okay, kind of. All right. Like there's an innocence to it. All right. And like this is awful. So then Alex walks into frame and he has with him some bottles of supermail and what have you which wait we said that was

going to happen. Hold on. Okay. Hold on. Okay. It's Chekov's supermail because it comes in at the beginning. Right. You know sooner or later somebody's getting some supermail. You're sitting there the whole time and you're like, yeah, he's got supplements on the table. They're there for a reason. And we'll get to that later. But here's where we start. See you. I've only got about 25, 30 minutes with you until you gotta go catch your plane. Right. Appreciate you coming into the info wars. Michael Rotondo also known as the man of the week. Nope. Later of the week. They are what was saying the 30 year old perp man that was just evicted by his parents in New York. You know, I appreciate your courage coming down here to Texas. Sure thing. Sure thing.

He's buttering him up. So again, this is almost just recapping the stuff from the last episode. Again, he brings up how at least you're not on welfare. Yeah, I just want to say on a scale of one to 10 people that have drug problems or people that are mentally ill or people that are criminals. You're also a criminal. Yeah, you are not even on that scale. Great. Right. That's nice to hear. I bet he was all three at the same time. The media made you the ultimate demon in the world, both liberal and conservative media, even the left that pushes dependency and paying for people's anchor babies and sex changes. I should not pay for somebody sex change or their nose job. And so I was kind of jumping on you a few days ago a little bit, but still saying, wait a minute,

but he's not one tent as bad as all these other people. I'm not saying I disagree. With your parents, your parents want you out of the house at 30. What I am saying is that this whole millennial thing we see of people being obsessed with their phones, being obsessed with television, not going out, not getting jobs, being afraid of change, I think you are indicative of that are actually very, very common. I don't mean that in the mean way. Okay. What is your world perspective on that? Well, I think that I've just been doing the best I can. And I've been setting forth a reasonable effort. And I don't think there's really anything wrong with the things that I've done or I say, I say many things that I've done.

I think there's some wrong things that stand by the things that I've done. Yeah. Like what? Like didn't on the earlier episode, he say that he can't think of anything. He's proud of his raised a son who's smarter than him is what he said. The kids eight years old. Yeah. Well, that's probably true. Man, there's a lot of eights flying around here. That was a bad year for this dude. His son was, wait, his son was born in the same year he was stalking a lady. What if the, what if the person who, I don't know who the person he was stalking was because I think victims names are confidential, right? What if he was stalking his baby's mother? That would make the most sense. That would also explain why he's not allowed to, but he had visitation rights

for some of the time, I believe, because it said the 2017 was when he had a case that made it so he couldn't talk to his kid anymore. He hasn't, he's not allowed to have contact. If he was stalking her back then, I would assume that no contact from the jump. Right. Because he would use, yeah, but there are all those fucked up laws in America where it's like your rapist can still have visitation rights, you know, like that kind of thing. Yeah, I don't know. Like America is a fucked up place. I don't know what the Syracuse laws are like. Then it also introduces the idea if it wasn't her eight years ago, he has a baby with one lady. Right. He stalks another lady, another lady gets arrested.

May or may not have lost a job. That would create the situation where his baby's mama is like, fuck off, get out of here, move in with your parents. But that would also still leave him in a situation where like, that's not enough to not have rights to see your child. Right. Although I kind of think it should be. I'm not like, if you get arrested for stalking, it's probably like a, hey, you know what, take, take a day, take a while off. Listen, bro, this is all a mess. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know how to parse it other than to say I'm not for any of this. No, but I don't think we have a hero in any of this, this episode right here. No, no, no,

there's a Chekhov's gun, but there's no heroes redemption. The hero. No, never mind. There is a third character we're going to talk about, but he's not a hero either. I keep waiting. I have way think that it's like, like Roger Stone should just swoop in and put him on a backpack and then he, they fucking climbed Mount Everest together and he's like, I have given you all I know. And then he becomes the next Roger X Machina. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Roger teaches him the ways and he becomes the next evil. Like this is the wire, you know, like at the end of the fifth season, you see everybody settling into their new roles. Like that's a deal. So, but or, uh, Owen are the new Rogers. Oh, okay. He's clearly training them. Yeah, but they're, they're

shit. Yeah, they're pretty bad. That's why I think he's, this kid's got some serious potential. He's got it. He's got that ineffable quality to say no to everything. Yeah. Or say, huh, to everything. So, uh, he was unable to deal with, uh, the question, what's your greatest achievement on the show yesterday? Uh, but Alex does not have such a difficulty answering that question. Although he fames a little bit of humility, uh, while trying to be like, well, that's very difficult. You know, when I talk about my accomplishments, I don't do it to talk about how I'm big or how I'm great. Uh, I don't go to red carpet events. I'll try to be in movies, even though I could be. I don't, I don't try to do that regular hierarchical stuff, but I should talk about

my accomplishments sometimes because then it gives other people confidence. What would you say your, your biggest accomplishment is? Well, you would ask me that, you would ask me that off air earlier and I actually know why you got taken back by Druze. It's, it's a big question. And I, and I don't really think I can answer that honestly. I think I was just about to try to say, it's not an easy question. I've done some big things politically changing things in the world, but I think the most important thing in my life was studying history early on and, and, and not know the false paradigms and then helping launch really a large vein of the global awakening we're seeing right now.

Rebooting 1776 worldwide, Americana, the Renaissance, you know, I'm going to talk to you, but Nigel Farage, the founder of UKIP that had the whole Brexit that's now spreading all the worlds, people pull out of globalism. You've probably heard of Brexit, right? I have. He, he's accredited on the air that UKIP was around for about 15 years before I ever had him on, but he said as soon as he came on info wars, there was no media would have him on in the UK that about half the constituents he would go knock on the door spreading the UK independence party were listeners of ours and that that was the ignited awakened group that then triggered into that. So you say you, you're, you set forth some, some significant change and you're well according to

him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so my proudest achievement is creating a movement that would help support ruining multiple countries. Well, beyond I love that I read history when I was nine so that and now I've toppled fucking Britain, you know, normal shit. I don't want to brag. I don't do things to brag. I'm just saying that if it weren't for me, Britain would still be a country. Hey, I don't want to brag, but I misread a really stupid book when I was 12. And now I have become the Johnny Apple seed founding father of fascist movements around the United, not the United States around the world. Yeah. Yeah. I seem to have a global boner for strong men and authority autocrats. What's my proudest achievement? First, being dumb.

Second, being super confident. Third, being evil. That mixture has led to a lot of good things, but honestly, if I were Alex Jones, I would say that my humility is my greatest attribute. That's what I'm most proud of. I've cultivated this amazing humility, even though he doesn't need to be. No, but listen to this. Listen to how humble this man is. You never know. Even when I was on Access TV, I got to be friends with Mike Judge named and he would show me some of the notes. You couldn't find the VHS tape. I had no idea that King of the Hill was it was a the idea came from my show. And I'm not bragging. I was on Access TV in 1995, 96. Okay. All right. Oh my god. Hold on. And the weirdness, one of the top TV shows ever, you later become friends with Mike

Judge. He's like, no, no, actually, here's the notes, the three dales and look at Alex Jones. And then the idea of like, I can kind of split the character of Hank Hill and the other guy that's conspiracy terrorist with me. But when is so, so he is both Hank Hill and the other guy. Yeah. Dale, I think. Yeah. And and if it weren't, he is King of the Hill. So the so Mike Judge here to for unbeknownst to everyone who's ever talked to Mike Judge ever about King of the Hill through the copious numbers of interviews. He's done millions of interviews. He's also the people who are involved in the show because it wasn't a one man operation. No, it was just Mike Judge. Okay. Hey, just, just Alex Jones. Turns out it was all Alex Jones, huh? Yeah. And he's not

saying it to brag. No, he he's saying that Hank Hill and this other character are based on him and the entire show is based on his show. Right. Right. But he's not saying it to brag. Now, also saying that way, you know, you can do great things even when you're on Access TV. I would say that that show, I don't, I don't know if my dates are totally right here, but I would say it was on probably premiered 20 years ago, 22 years ago. Probably Alex Jones is 44 right now. Yep. So when he was 22, he was King of the Hill, Hank Hill, King of the Hill. Yep. Everybody knows that that balding 50 year old father of two based on Alex Jones, 22 year old lunatic. Well, we all know that before Alex Jones got into public access TV and dumb conservative, pretending to be

libertarian radio, he was an oil man. He sold propane. So stupid. Such an idiot. So he actually thinks that he's the reason that King of the Hill exists. Oh yeah. Big time. All right. So he spends a long time going over, you know, this like back in those days, I was such a badass and the neighborhood I had to drive through to do the it was bad. It was violent. I got car jacked. Someone was dead on the street. I don't know about that. Yep. But I don't care to check into it. It's way too much effort. So I'm just like, fuck you. I'll let you have it. Right. We went to a bad neighborhood to do a show. We've all done that doing stand up. But be that as it may at any rate. Alex talks about how he made his first film America destroyed by design. And he did it on bad equipment. And he

ended up flipping it and making a cool half mill off it. Not to brag. Not to brag. Not to brag. He made half a million dollars on that. And then he turned it around and put it back into the business. And that's something millennials could never do. Never. So here is him talking about this. And then he accidentally slips and talks a little bit too much about the money. And Mike has an interesting question for him. Now that half million dollars. I didn't go get a house. I didn't go get a new car. I put it all back into computers and equipment and employees. And I heard four or five people and spent all that money that year and paid my taxes. And the next year I brought in two million dollars until I brought in like, you know, 40 million dollars. But again, you sell product for

50% off. You bring in 20 million dollars and you pay everybody and all of them. I spend most of the money. But see, that's just like Amazon. It's an evil company. Always never takes profit. All they do is dump it back in to be dominant. And now they're going profitable. You know how they're going to be the most profitable company in the world. Does that make sense? It does. Don't they pay dividends? Doesn't their stock pay dividends though? Yes. And the way they manipulate it, they don't want to pay taxes. So they say there's no profit. Right. When did you get a good accountant? You what?

When did you get a professional accountant? I'm not. My goal, you have to get to the globalist level where you don't have to pay taxes. And then they have special accountants that are political. I pay a lot of taxes because I'm just a regular guy. When I use those numbers like 20 million dollars, that's to run this. I'm not doing this to make money. Yeah, you are. Okay. You understand? If I was doing it to make money, this is ideological. It'd be set up different than what you're saying. Well, yeah. You do things. And then he just does that and then he checks it out. When did you get a professional accountant? I pay lots in taxes. Why did you just say you pay

lots in taxes? It makes me think you don't pay any taxes. It makes you think you specifically pointed out, but why did you say that? Alex, you're weird. You're acting weird. You're acting very suspicious about something that is, there's no reason to be suspicious. Well, the thing is it was such a, this is how I would talk to you if we weren't on camera. I'm starting to tell about all these accomplishments. I made, I look half a million dollars next time, two million dollars. Now it's 20. Now it's 40. I mean, we are a shoe string operation. Oh boy. But I put it all into the, just like Amazon. Amazon doesn't have profit. That makes sense. If he's ever like legitimately,

if he's ever brought in $40 million through his sales in a year, last year he went on record and said that it costs 13 million dollars. It was during making Kelly's stuff. He said it costs $13 million in order to run his operation. That is a profit of $27 million. Where is that money going? If not to Alex Jones and Buckley and the HR department, Alex Jones is dead. Well, I'm sure it's all going to taxes. 40 million is probably pretty exaggerated. That's the, that's the, that's how much taxes cost, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen it. Like I saw taxes at Target once. Talks, it taxes expensive. So expensive. You buy one of those little cards and it runs out

immediately. So he just goes on and on here about how like a lot of radio shows, it's just the host and then they have all their advertisers and then they got like two employees that they pay $50,000 a year to run stuff and then they take, why is he getting so much into finances? Just because he's trying to deflect from talking about his own. Yeah. He's just talking about like, ah, this is how rush would do it or something like that. Right. All right. He's trying to present itself like he is some sort of elevate. It's not that important. Trust me. Where we're going, we don't need taxes. All right. All right. All right. That is a minus one to Dan. Turns out nicotine helped my fun work. So in this next clip, Alex just lies a bit

and then Mike Rotundo is confused. I'm not looking at my watch because I don't want to talk to you. I wish I wouldn't have gotten hurt like it's only got 20 minutes left, 25 minutes left. And I didn't mean to get in here and start going off on Jack. I'm up myself. I just wanted you to know that it's easy to call you a bomb like the media's calls you. It is. But they're the ones promoting that I pay for people to have their genitals cut off. You know, there have been over, there have been millions of sex changes in this country that taxpayers paid for. Now I don't have to pay for you getting a nose job, do I? I don't think so. Should I? So he's really confused. He's confused by this, but it's really fun to look at the

reality of what insurance does cover. Because if you get rhinoplasty, you can convince doctors that it's not cosmetic. It's medically necessary. If there's a medical reason that you need it, and then Medicare or Medicaid would cover it, you know, like there are the insurances would end up covering it. So there are a lot of nose jobs that do end up getting conned into being covered by, by healthcare. So Alex, you are paying for those nose jobs. All right. Now if he wants to talk about for one for yourself, you know what I mean? All right, there's not a nose. That's a banana. Maurice Chevalier. Is that right? You can say it anyway. So the, the other thing too is like gender correcting surgeries are very uncommon. Yeah. There have not been millions. I would,

I would hazard a guess saying that there haven't been millions performed in the world. Well, I don't know because we're only talking about the United States because we don't take taxes from, you know, the Philippines or whatever. No, I mean, I mean, period. Right. I would, I would be very surprised to discover that worldwide there have been millions of these performed period. Well, I don't know. And the number, the specific numbers are kind of iffy. I was reading this one article about how the gender confirmation surgery is up 19% in 2016, which makes it seem like that is a lot. But no, that's a tiny amount. But if you read the article, less than 0.5% of those procedures involved any kind of genital surgeries. There are, you know, large numbers of, you know, chest

surgeries that that are done, whether increasing or decreasing size and what have you. But according to this article here in NBC News, and I, I will, I will concede that the beginning of this article does say that the the American Society of Plastic Surgeons have some questions about the data or the data was supplied by them. And there are some questions about it. So it's not the best data, but in terms of specifics, it's about, but it is able to find and it didn't delete it, didn't delete the articles. That means something. But anyway, it's saying that only 15 total operations in 2016 were genital correction surgeries. So the idea of millions of them, the taxpayers are paying for, and we have no idea if those 15 were paid for by out of pocket

or any event. So no clue. Yeah, it's complete nonsense. Alex is just making shit up to be mad at because he hates marginalized groups. Right. We're not done with nose jobs though, because Alex wants to talk more about that. No, I like my nose the way it is. No, no, I'm saying give a nice nose. Give a noble nose. People say, look at my wife and she's got a big nose and they go, oh, look, she's Jewish, all these damn racists. And I go, well, she's not Jewish. She's actually German, but I like my wife's noble nose. I like it. I don't want a little bit, a little Barbie nose. So that's how that works. But anyways, that's a side issue. That's how that word is in the eye of the holder,

but my wife's a little sweetheart. She's like, should I get a nose job? When she read these comments and I said, no, baby, we're going to divorce your nose job. I like her nose. And she says, everything is the is some people want the helicopter. They want the jet. They want the biggest mansion. What do I want? You want to spread what you're, you want to make some change. You want to, you know, shake up some things you want to, which is human empowerment. And so what is human empowerment? I would say encouragement. That's a big part of it. But you also have to go through some pain to get that game. Alex is who is Alex talking to Alex. There's somebody behind this kid who is

like, I, is he fighting for his life against some sort of vicious demon against the wall? No, what is happening? Alex took a couple shots right when he got off air in between this, you know, to put a couple pulls, pulls of the whiskey. And now he's just yelling at a wall about his problems that I was wife wants to get a nose job and the divorce or if she does, and then he's trying to, at the same time, walk this guy down a path because he's trying to indoctrinate him to a certain extent. Right. But I, I, why do you got to go into the, well, some people say my wife has a big nose. She's a damn racist. That's the part she's actually German is like, wait, but why have you said she was Jewish in the past? Why, why did she do that? That's Kelly. That's

his ex-wife. This is new wife. This is a new wife. Okay. He's talked about that before in the past too. All right. This, that, that part of it is him talking to the wall. That's doing, I was gonna say, who is he fucking talking to? That's him doing his material to the wall. He's just like doing bits. He's checked out the, all the rest of it is him just being like, eh, you know, what is it? What is human empowerment? Yeah, but don't ask a question like that. Encouragement? You fucking asshole. It's that, but it's much more. That's a, that's such a fucking, fuck you. No, because it's, he's trying to, he's trying to, I don't, I think it's a question that has an answer that only the asker of the question can possibly know. And you will never get that question right because the

answer is whatever it is you didn't say. Wait, wait until this plays out. I'm telling you, this is the beginnings of him attempting to be like, now what do you think about this? Oh no, that's great. But really, it's him trying to butter him up. And so like, look, there's two things at play beyond him just complaining about his wife's nose to the wall, which is one piece of this that is definitely present. The other part is him trying to indoctrinate him because he thinks it would be a good get. It would be a big get for info wars for publicity's sake. If they get this guy and fix him up, get him a haircut, get him on a workout routine, gets big and swole, you know, like this would be huge for him. Right. Right. That'd be great propaganda.

But then the other side of it info wars version of the biggest loser. Yeah. I don't remember what the other side of it is, but there's a second piece that's at play. I don't know. Anyway, we'll get to it as it goes along, but here's more talking to the wall because Alex, as he's trying to do this dialectical thing where he's like, what is human empowerment? Well, that's encouraging people. Ah, there's more. There is also working for it. Then he sure then he gets lost in thought. And this is again, you have a PowerPoint presentation to go along with this. Does he at least have a whiteboard where he's writing down ideas like what, and you, you're good at electronics. We, we're going to

write electronics on the board. What jobs have electronics on the board? I remember what the other piece of it was. What? I couldn't come up with it because it's just so basic and crass. It seemed just trying to steal a little bit of this guy's shine. Yeah. Because he's famous right now in heavy air quotes. Right. Um, it's, that's the other piece, but here this just, and he's stealth shitting on him the whole time. This is Alex. A lot of people say you're a piece of shit. There's more of that coming up too. This is Alex was talking to the wall though. I went and saw Deadpool and Josh Brolin looks like he is, you know, at 3% body fat. Now you got to believe he probably went through some real pain to get that game or loss.

My wife has a crush on Josh Brolin. Anyways, side issue. I met Josh Brolin once and he, uh, didn't care. Anyways, he said, I'd like to log off on that side issue if I can tell the story. All right. He was with Sean Penn. It was like a complete cock. But anyways, my point is, is that we can all pretty much get something we want. We can't get everything we want. That was your point? That was your point. That was your point. My wife has a crush on Josh Brolin, which is not great because I hate Josh Brolin because I saw him once and Sean Penn was a dick. They were dicks to me. That's, I mean, this is great. This is, this is alcoholic divorce dad taking you fishing. No,

totally. This is totally what that is. That's why I said at the beginning of this, it's clear that he's only doing it because he didn't get a good run at this the first time. Yeah. He's like, I did not come off as daddy. Oh man. I need to fix that. This is bad. So here, he talks more about himself and by he, of course, I mean Alex. Yeah. I'm just simply saying there's the adventure of getting out of your parents' nest. Yep. So I was trying to tell you the story of me, you know, uh, fucking when I was 11. When I first started making America's World by Design, I had a job at a golf course and I had a job selling memberships at a, at a gym. So those are two jobs that are pretty appropriate for Alex Jones. One of them is a con man job

in terms of selling gym memberships. No, they're very good people. No, they usually try and trap you in contracts. No, they're great people. Then the other one is, they have quotas to reach. The other one is working in the place that formerly very not too distant past did not allow Blacks, Jews, uh, Irish or women. Right. Uh, so that's a, but then he was in Texas. So I'm sure it was very open minded, very open minded golf course country club, all kinds of, I mean, no women, but no, no, no, no. Uh huh. And I was working, was working both jobs about 20 hours a week as a golf course was part time. So was the gym. None of them wanted to have you as a full-time employee. It's contractors that you get benefits. Right. It's fine. So I got up, like I said,

with the golf course job at like five a.m. to go do that. So the times I was in the golf course a few days a week, I couldn't, I couldn't stay up late doing video editing. It took me about a year to make the film. Yep. Oh, it's a long story. Anyways, I'm just telling you, it wasn't easy. It, everything wasn't done the way I wanted it to be. But when I finally did it, I had this radio show. I had the platform. I thought, why to talk show hosts just have a coffee mug and a newsletter. Right. Gonna make a film proving what I say about the UN taking over the national parks of education in America. And I'm going to show them the proof and the listeners responded. Does that make sense? Yeah. So do it. It's, it's because of what you were talking about before

about how you're, you're not doing your production. You're doing an ideology. Oh, so now here is where I think as much of a shithead as Michael Rotondo is and the fact that he stalked a woman is unforgivable and he's not an empathetic figure. He's still not an idiot because he has some sort of presence on the spectrum and has some sort of an inability to understand the social cues. Yep. He is a good way to be a portal into things. Alex said off air that he doesn't realize he's not supposed to say back on. So I think that was one of them. Yeah, I'm pushing an ideology here. This isn't really about the production. It's an ideology about an operation. I mean, I just push out my ideology. Alex would totally be fine if you called him on

it is like, yes, that, uh, that, uh, ideology is 1776 reborn or whatever. But the way he, the way Rotondo is saying that is clearly like, that's the way you phrased it here. Like we are ideological, which to me, I mean, like, that's a problem means that the things that you say probably come through a filter. Um, anyway, here's where things turn. And I'm going to say that a couple times, but here's where one of them turn, one of the big turns comes and I think it's Alex trying to be like, I can save you. Michael, here's the thing. You came off as autistic on television. Okay. And you were telling me that in court, they, when they took your son away from you, not for anything bad, you did. You, they were saying that you were basically, um,

incompetent. That's what you've, yeah, that's how you described it before. Rude. But you were saying that's what they said. That, that's a very reasonable characterization of what happened. Do you mean they said that? I don't think you're incompetent. And I've seen people like you that if they're given a chance to actually go out and have a mission and build on that, then the confidence of having their own apartment, their own car, then their own house, their own thing is, is, is infectious. And then they turn into a whole other person. Instead, there's a lot of people like you who don't just stay in their parents' house. They get recruited by the globalist. They get filled with a hateful

ideology and then turn against us. And then they unthinkingly beaver away to attacking, because you're a smart guy. You set a ton of witty stuff live on air there. He didn't. Yeah. You did not. Alex was miserable having him on air. Uh, this was amazing. Uh, this So here's, here's Alex's prescription. Uh, get out of your parents' house. Get a job. Yeah. Become a completely different person. Yes. Absolutely. The right. All of the, all of the stuff you are, stop being that person. Right. Right. What this is. Everybody else is describing as a pile of shit. This is bad. This you, what I'm seeing here. Everybody is, I'm not saying that you're incompetent. Everybody else did and the judge did. So legally, I, I, I would say that

what makes this funny is Alex, but what makes it not funny is the reality that like succeed or fail. Alex is hurting this guy. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. You know, like, absolutely. Whether he gets a house or not, it's like, you're not dealing with the underlying issue that he's, he has a mental illness. He needs to be, he needs help. It takes a village to raise a 30 year old. But as long as that village does not have Alex anywhere near it. Yeah. That's fucked up. I'm being told from the chat room by our, by garbage dick that this is very reminiscent of Jordan Peterson style advice. Oh yeah. Saving white males and what have you. Yep. I've not, I've not engaged too much with Peterson. So I don't, I don't know a lot of his, his, his particular quirks.

Easy piece of shit. But it does see, it does, that does sound right from what I've, what I've heard. Now, Jordan, on the last episode, we learned that Mike Rotondo, I'm calling him Mike because we're buddies now. This is the second episode we've been about him. I feel like we're close. We learned that he's running a business. Yes. We never knew. We saw that he had a business. We don't know what the other business was law, law, certainly. We don't know what that business is. He never made it clear. And luckily on this episode, we find out. So what do you want to do with your life? Well, I kind of want to, I kind of want to remember my business. I want to. And here, what is your business? I'm not that I don't want to connect the two things. I don't want to bring

but see if you're on air with somebody, you don't have to get into your specifics. Yeah. I don't have the infrastructure to support the kind of thing that if, you know, if I mentioned it on there, I describe it on air. So then you have to, then you have to build another company that is in reality to then take the money to the experimental thing. You can't always go to the, you can't. Can I be clear? I didn't cut there. That's a, that is a sentence that he said. That doesn't make any sense. I think what he's trying to say is, if this is your, your passion project, right, then you've got to make another business to pay for this passion project. I think that's what he's saying.

If that's what he's trying to say, I get it, but he's not saying that well. No, he's not doing that well. So anyway, let's see where this goes. Can't go to 12th grade in the first grade. But that's why I don't want to mention it. That's why I don't want to talk about it. Well, no, but you kind of had it. It's like legal advice. No. We were saying you're like working on legal stuff. It's my own legal stuff. It takes hours. Listen, you have to say what your ideas are. Nobody's trying to steal them. I'm trying to

understand this. What, what is the, just go past the fear. We'll pass the never getting here. What is the thing? What is the business just in a generality? Tech. Information technology. Okay. Okay. And there are a lot of guys like you who aren't stupid, but are kind of quirky. Who have tech ideas. So, well, I mean, in general, what's the tech idea? It's not really an idea. It's just an, it's an ideology. Sure. And so what is the ideology? That the stuff that you, that you get from me works.

Oh, really? Yep. It's like, like apps or what do you mean? What is it? Whatever, whatever it is that I, that I offer, that if you come to me and I can offer to you and we go through with it, that it'll work. I know, but, but sometimes you have to work with the tools you've got. This, this is a bad business model. This is bad. This isn't the business.

I mean, he doesn't want, no, no, no, he doesn't want to say what the business is. No, no. Maybe, but I think he's been worn down enough to like be like, I, there's nothing. I just, I just, whatever it is I'm doing, I'll do it well. Yeah. I'll help you with technology and I'll do it well. I think that's what he's saying. Cause the IT stuff is like, I'll fix stuff. I'll fix your machines and your tech issues, but I'll do this. I don't know. But whatever it is, is like, if I were on Shark Tank, I'd be like,

bro, go, I'm not buying in based on that. What are you going to do? That's not a solid pitch. You're Mark Cuban. It's not a solid pitch. You're Mark Cuban. You hear that it's not so much an IT thing. It's an ideology. Uh-huh. If you get it from me, it's going to work.

Right. What do you say? Um, you, sir, are dead on. I want you to run my department of dreams and wishes. What's your five year plan, bro? To give people what they want. Wait, now I'm asking Mark Cuban, what his five year plan is? This is no good.

So Alex, uh, uh, at this point gets into a metaphor that he's misusing. That's what I'm telling you is you got to, you got to, you got to play with the cards you're dealt and right. And if you win at the lower cards, then you get the bigger cards, right? You say, you don't go here automatically. That's not what that metaphor means. So in poker, the expression you have to play with the cards you're dealt means that you have to accept the situation in front of you as it is.

So if you've dealt like a two, six or something like that, that's a shitty hand. You can't build much off that unless you get super lucky and three sixes pop out on the board. Then you've got the best hand ever, but you can't control that. So what you do is you play with the cards you're dealt and you decide, am I going to sit this one out and wait for a better opportunity? Or are you going to bluff it and pretend that you have pocket aces? You know what I'm saying? That's what the metaphor means.

That's what that aphorism means. It's not like you got to play with bad cards, then do well and you'll get aces. Like that's not what it means. That's a lunatic. No, no, he's framing poker as the classic American dream. All right. It's about, it's about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Everybody knows that when you go to a casino, if they see that you've got bad cards and you

win, they're like, hold on, we got to get you out of here. We got to get you into the card of the casino where you get the good cards. Now we're, everybody gets aces over here. I know that, uh, I know that Kings and aces and Queens, they're all, uh, gated behind, uh, experience barriers. You have to earn the right to an ace. It's ridiculous. I know that's a little tiny thing.

No, if you can't understand or use a, a fucking metaphor, stop using them. No, I understand that. Like, this is the thing that blows my mind is like, we can, most of this episode is largely going to be us listening to Mike Rotondo and being confused, right? Like not understanding what Alex is trying to sit down on the table. Right. And it's fun to be like, now hold on. There's a bunch of times when Alex is in the wrong too.

He might not understand him cause Alex is talking shit. He's insane. Yeah. So, uh, boy, here's a, here's where everything turns in life. You've got to choose basic steps and then you've got to try those steps. And if you fail, it doesn't matter because you're going to learn in the process. And just cause you meet bad people on the way, it doesn't mean everybody's bad. Right.

The bad people, that's how racism happens. Like if you're a black person, you run into some racist white people, you think you're a whole lot of everybody who's white racist. Or if you're a man like me, I grew up in Dallas. So I had black friends when I was younger. We're nice. Then I ran to black racists that attacked me. I didn't blame all black people because I thought it was just people, good people, bad people.

But see other people, if they don't have enough experiences, if, if, if, if they don't have the good experience versus the bad experience, they don't understand there's different things out there. You know what I've encountered? I've encountered black people who will not discuss racism because they do not believe that people who are not black can understand it. And that's, and it's fine if people who aren't black can't understand it. But I think that not sharing it is the wrong approach.

And that's what I've encountered. I've asked you, I've asked African American people. That's true too. But listen, the thing is real, but it's projected. We have the government documents to make it worse. It's amplified to just divert everybody from everything else that's happening. In like the media or, or just 5g is going to kill a billion people in the next 20 years of cancer.

Now tell me how the goddamn racism is important. What? Wow. What? Wow. Hmm. I don't, because we have listened to Alex Jones for the past year and a half, I understand what he's saying and where it fits in with his brain.

If I did not, if I had no context for this, I know this guy is a mad man. This is a fucking mad man. Shout it out. Also, he's, and even then, like, if you were around white races all the time, you'd think all white people are racists. And if you were around black races, I had black friends, I had white friends, and then I met black races and I didn't think all black people were better, which means by extension, I am better than everybody else who thinks about white racists.

And I can't possibly be one of them. Yeah. So then also it's- God, what a fucking idiot. It's, it's- He's, he's, that's some shit that he's convinced himself. Oh, undoubtedly. That is some shit that he really believes is true,

even though it doesn't make a goddamn bit of sense. No, and so I looked into the, I wanted to, I don't understand exactly where there's billions of people who are going to be killed by 5G. Three billion. Three billion. And that's why racism isn't important. So there's a couple of things that I found that were particularly interesting to me. And one of them is that whenever he talks about this story, he mentions an article,

or he flashes up on the screen, an article from Wired Magazine. And the headline from this Wired Magazine article that they always flash up and he never reads. Right. And they never go over much is in big bold letters, 5G smartphones cause cancer, big wireless doesn't want you to know. Of course not. Now, if you read down the, the actual article, it starts, quote, I've been waiting and waiting for this particular form of popular fear to surface again.

Oh no. Okay. All right. So we're already done. Yep. Already done. Yep. Okay.

From the first sentence, the first sentence is everybody who thinks this is fucking stupid. Well, it's just like we've seen this before. It happens every time. It happens every time. There's technological. We've got our first one. We got, let's put a little mark on the board. So then there's another, there's a study, a study that was written up in the LA Times

about slight increase in cancers and rats that were exposed to 5G radiation. And it's a very slight increase. Sure. And the, what I would take away from this article is this quote, I don't think it's clear that there are health risks, but it's also not clear that there are no health risks. Says Leica Keefitz, an epidemiology professor at UCLA's Fielding School on Public Health, who has studied the health effects of cell phone use.

So I don't. Noted expert says, shrug maybe? Right. So who cares about racism? Could be, could not be. Who cares about racism? So let's not worry about racism. Who cares about the goddamn racism?

Well, it's, we could be cancer. Right. So there might, Or it could not be. There might be slight. There could be other variables. There might be slight increases in cancer, but if you're Alex, barbecues, get rid of them.

Get rid of every barbecue in America. Because they, How dare you? They're carcinogenic. How dare you? Burning charcoal briquettes is carcinogenic. Like regulate on that level. If you want, they could bring the coal bag job.

You don't understand like what is really like at stake, not at stake, but the advantages that could be had with. Not at a barbecue. At strip state. You don't understand what's at strip state with 5g. Because it's not just things getting much faster and like being like the, you know, wi-fi speeds increasing or what have you. Right.

It's like processing speeds would go up too. And the ability to do all these things that are impossible to do now with battery lives and shit like that. It wouldn't strain your devices so heavily. There's all kinds of applications for the ability to work anywhere and stuff like that. And that's why you shouldn't worry about climate change. And that's,

Because it's already given you cancer. And that's even with like my small minded approach to it. I don't even understand all of the applications, but the few that I can come up with are super exciting. And I don't know. Maybe there's studies that show a slight increase in cancers. I'm fine with that. I think that there also need to do more studies.

I'm fine with that. Get definitive on it. Anyway, now at this point. Somebody did a study that said maybe or maybe not good enough for me cancel the whole thing. Well, Alex is, I mean, like what we're at. Put the kibosh on it, Dan. What we're at right.

Let's get back to focusing on racism. All right. We can't have 5G until we fix racism, Dan. Well, Alex just would love any excuse not to work on racism. Well, that's because he's because he's had experiences on both sides. So he's better than everybody else who believes in racism. So at this point, Alex tries to scare Mike a little bit.

It's really funny because Mike isn't that worried about 5G. 5G is going to kill a billion people. It's estimated. Okay. Cool. Does it matter what color your skin is? It's not that the race crap isn't going on. It's in the WikiLeaks that they project all the race stuff

because that's how we're designed. We see each other what color we are. We don't see radiation blasting through things, man. Right. But the globalists do. Do you understand? Right. Do you understand there is a scientific consciousness

that is completely cold-blooded beyond anything you can imagine that is preying on you. And so as a man, you need to gut up and learn what that is and take the threat that's there and stop thinking by protecting yourself in a bubble and being real slow about everything. You're going to do anything. You're not.

You're dying. You're dying. You're dying. I would, personally, I think that the racism is more important than the 5G thing because if we die sooner from cancer, does it matter if we die sooner? Does it matter that we let good lives without Patreon? See, this is the scrambled spiritualism I'm talking about.

This is the scrambled spiritualism. Oh, yeah, lived good lives, whatever. Right. You were good to other people. You aspired for a humanistic existence. This has such the ring of, like, Alex saw his son in the bathroom one time and he's like, oh my god, I think my son might be gay. So he's taking it all out on this kid right here.

There's some of that. This is such a, I don't know if he's going to be gay. I don't know if he's gay. I don't know what I'm going to do. Hold on to those thoughts for a little bit. No, no. Because gayness does come up. Of course it does.

Of course it does. But like that, I want to say that clip right there gives a little bit of a, like, Amu's bouche of things to come. Just a little taste of some of the stuff that Alex is going to try and drop on him because he's not buying into this. No, of course not. He probably does want a job, but he doesn't understand Alex's worldview. And he's like, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know, but I don't think that's all that. And later, I believe he even says like, I don't think it's going to kill people. I don't, I don't, I don't believe that. No, Alex, Alex is really getting mad because it's like, can't you see I'm trying to be your dad? And Alex has already established that like, either I'm going to save you or the globalists are going to get you. Right. Right.

Sticks are high. Sticks are high. Sticks are high. If Alex doesn't succeed, then the globalist to win in Alex's mind. Right. So, boy, here's that. This is the, this is the worst Scientology auditing session that they have ever done. Like the, like L Ron Hubbard is sitting there like, how do we crack this kid?

Now hear me out on this. Yeah. It's a damn good thing that racism isn't important. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. And thank God, because otherwise this clip would suck. Do you understand? That they're killing millions of Buddhists every year and Christians have sung their

organs. Talk about the Chinese. I don't, I did not know that. But see, there's not the psychological fun because it's Asians killing Asians. So it's not as sexy as Oprah Winfrey and roots. Okay. Some dumbass white guy going, a little bullwhip beaten by people. Do you understand that the industrial level human cloning is going on?

I did not understand that. Oh, it's admitted. Oh boy. Asians killing Asians is not sexy. Wow. Like Oprah Winfrey being in roots, which features a dumb black guy with a bullwhip. Yeah. Also, did you know that there's industrial scale human cloning that

What brilliant mind could come up with three so unbelievably disconnected things. And somehow weave them together in a basket of bullshit. He has a pretty spectacular skill that is gotta give him that. That's unusable in any other context. No, none. None. It's amazing. If Alex didn't do this, what would he do?

Poetry readings? I don't know. Get kicked out of his parents' house at 30. That might be it. That might be it. No shit. That might be it. No shit.

I just, I didn't want to make it too clear, but I just did. I know. I fucked up. Come on, man. Oh, well. You'd never make the subtext text. God damn it, Dan. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, I blew our own game. So in this next clip, we get back, talking, still in the same conversation, a little bit more about 5G. Could I have some water, Maria? Yeah, we'll get you some water. We'll get you some water. Let's go to the shot over. I'm not belittling.

Let's go to the watch. Yeah, I'm not here, brother. I'm not belittling anybody's problems. But if 5G is killing us, we should ban it. Instead of saying, what does it matter if we've had good lives? Or it's 5G like a new life form to you, a new thing. You have to think it was a girl. Like, it's a friend.

Like, 5G is already massively increasing brain tumors and already killing people in every lab study. Personally. So when I'm at, so, so, wait, wait, wait. Go ahead. If it kills us, it doesn't matter as long as we're loving. I don't, you could say, I would, yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying, but it's a little. No, no, I'm saying what you're saying.

It's very ethereal. Yeah. Just something neutral that kills us doesn't matter. But the human passion of people disliking each other for what color they are, that's paramount. I don't think it's going to kill us as, I don't think we need it either, the 5G, because realistically, the infrastructure that we have available to us. Okay, well, they're putting it in ubiquitously. Let me ask you this.

What do you eat today? Okay. All right. Interesting. Good, good change. Interesting. Good change. This guy has.

Hard right turn. This guy like is in there and he's like, I don't think it's going to kill us. What do you eat? And honestly, I don't think. But what do you eat? Would you believe what are you eating, Dan? Would you believe that that question is really not so much about finding out what he eats? Oh, no.

Also, also, hold on real quick. By the way, if 5G is killing us, then we should ban it. Cigarettes, guns, alcohol, cars. What else you got? I mean, cars aren't killing us necessarily, but cigarettes certainly are. 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:27,680 Alcohol. Oil, sure.

Fracking. Fracking. All of the fucking everything they're doing in Flint. Lightning. Chemicals, putting them in the water. Oh, sure. You should regulate businesses.

01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,880 The EPA, they're doing all right now. Right. So, if Alex believes that if Blank is killing us, then Blank. No, that's a fundamental problem of his philosophy because it's a counter example to everything. Yep. It's if the standard to ban something is that it kills people, then I mean, he would probably make the argument that this is going to kill everybody. Sure.

It's not like. So, climate change? With cigarettes, you have a choice whether or not to engage with them. Right. Whereas with this, it's just going to be in the air. And again, there's climate change. Yep. Also, there is just air pollution.

Yep. You know, standards that should be in place in terms of breathable air. Businesses putting things in the water. Right. So, again, it all does come down to. Yeah. Alex is accidentally arguing for regulation. Yep.

But here's what he wants to know about. No, he's not accidentally arguing for regulation. He is for regulation so long as it isn't real or getting his way. That's true. And yeah, it doesn't help. Yeah. And it doesn't help anybody else. Yeah.

But he doesn't really care about Mike's diet. I regret to inform you. Oh. What do you eat? I eat a lot of beef. Okay. I like beef. So.

Take vitamins. I don't. I try to eat vegetables and I do. Well, you don't look unhealthy. I do a lot of unhealthy things. I'm going to give you some things. There's also a plug here. I'm going to give you.

Yeah. Is it alpha? Is it also a plug? Which I had them set out for the body and mind. Formula. The strongest endocrine, you know, type booster that we come up with safely. So I'm going to, I want you to man up here. Without a prescription.

Safety without a prescription. Well, yeah. Well, when I call a drug, when I call a drug. Right. I guess this is Mother Nature. Okay. So this is two bowls of alpha power. Okay.

And four store.com. Go ahead and take them. Thank you. They couldn't find a new bottle around here. This one I was taking in my office. I'm only taking a few doses. This is X2. Okay.

This is deep earth crystal iodine. Okay. The good halogen. So he gives him a half used bottle of X2 because they couldn't find any more around the office. X2, it's one of those that's liquid that comes with a dropper. And Alex has on many occasions on his show just dropped it into his mouth. So we know that's kind of his behavior. He's given this dude a bottle of X2 that he's been using.

He's probably licked that goddamn thing. Crazy. This is gross. It's real gross. This is really gross. But this is where Schrodinger- This is gross on so many, there's so many gross things happening right now. This is where-

There are philosophically gross things. There are emotionally gross things. Now there are physically gross things. I think that's the last physically gross thing. Although accidentally Alex admits something that he's denied a whole bunch in the past. I'm serious, I want to have you back on after you've taken these. I want your real response. I saw some remunerar stuff.

They said, his super mel didn't grow my hair back. We don't say it does that. In fact, it might make it fall out. So anyways, that's what testosterone does, I tell you. Might make your hair fall out. But did you catch what he said there at the end? That's what testosterone does. He's basically admitting this is a testosterone.

It's just pure testosterone. Or at very least is something that's synthetically designed in order to make you release more testosterone, which is the same fucking thing as it being a testosterone supplement. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. That is great. So he's plugging his products.

He's not doing a good job of it. No. Hey, you want to be bald? Hey, it didn't grow my hair back. Well, yeah, of course it didn't. We don't say it does. Also probably made it fall out more. How's your newly small dick going too?

How them balls? So he's getting his supplement push in in the form of like this will help you. But then he, boy, I'll tell you what, I don't know if it's right or wrong, but he treats this dude like a child. And the natural conclusion of that is he has to assign him a book report. Okay. The killing of Uncle Sam. This is one of the best history books currently written that is working

with some top guys from the CIA and Pastor Rodney Howard Brown. So, you know, it's going to read to understand how the world really works. This is ultra accurate. Okay. So we sell it at m4store.com, but I want to challenge you. Will you read this book and come on and tell me what you thought? How long do I have to read it? Well, it's not YouTube.

It's not the internet. It doesn't flicker beautifully. You got to actually turn the pages yourself. But if you do it by candlelight, you can have that effect. I'm asking you, will you read this book? I will read it if you give me enough time to read it. Well, how long does that take? How many pages is it?

Well, I mean, I read it in about a week and a half, only reading like 20 minutes a night. So, you know, 300, 400 pages. And three weeks? Absolutely. We'll have you back on the show. All right. All right.

Now, I want to say, I know that this is already way too late in terms of our discussion in our episode. I am going to allow a possibility that this is all trolling. You know what I'm saying? Right. This is a guy doing a character or something like that. Right. He got some actors to play his parents and sue him or something.

I don't know. I don't know how it would work and how they'd trick the courts and how there would be a eight-year-old stalking conviction. But like I'm allowing some possibility that this guy is just deep fucking Alex. Just fucking with him so hard because the way he is like, how long do I have to read it? That's brilliant comedic timing. Or it is somebody who is on this spectrum in some way.

Yeah. It's one of the two and we don't want to deal with the reality, probably, that he is a man in deep, deep pain. Put that. Oh, the timing on that. Gorgeous. Will you come back? How long do I have to read it?

All of it. It's deflated. So I want to tell you about this guy who wrote this book, Rodney Howard Brown. Rodney Howard Brown, the priest. Wrote the killing of Uncle Sam. This guy. Oh, man. Oh, man.

All right. He is a mess. He's a hero. Oh, no. He is not the hero of this story. He's the third guy who is not one of the heroes. Oh, okay. So he has a doctorate in ministry from a correspondent school

called the School of Bible Theology. Correspondent school, religious correspondence. School is a diploma mill. You just pay for a degree and get a piece of paper. Rodney and his wife, Adonica, were top-level ranked distributors for an acai berry juice multi-level marketing scam called Manavi. Until they went belly up in 2014. He was so involved in Manavi that he was named in a lawsuit against the company

for fraudulently claiming their products contained a proprietary fatty acid called seledrin. Manavi got sued by Oprah and Dr. Oz for fraudulently claiming that they endorsed their acai product. They got sued a whole bunch, then ended up going out of business in 2014 when they defaulted on a $182 million loan note that was to secure their assets, which is pretty much how most pyramid schemes and multi-level marketing scams go belly up.

Everyone down on the ground floor gets nothing. Everyone at the top has already secured whatever they've stolen somewhere else in a Swiss bank account or some shit. So that's what happens here. He was a top-level distributor, probably using his religious flocks to help move some of his acai berries. Could be a little bit. So in June, I'm sorry, in July 2017, Rodney was one of the preachers

who visited the White House to pray and lay hands on Trump. What did you just say? This guy, he got really crazy about this. Like he went nuts. Wait, what did you just say? He went and prayed on Trump. And remember that picture that came out? There's a bunch of ministers laying hands on him.

Yeah, but how did we go from the acai multi-level marketing scam to there? Because it's all related. How did we get from one debate? People who are involved in one con aren't involved in just one. It's the same thing with, like, Alex Jones has his political con and then he's got his deep earth iodine con. That's true. So he went to the, he prayed over Trump.

Sure. And then I watched this video. I watched the video of him talking about it. He got really nuts. Quote, there is a planned attack on our president. And that's all I can tell you about right now. I know what I'm talking about. I've spoken to high-ranking people in the government.

And this is being planned by people that hate God, hate America, hate our president. And we have to stop this in Jesus' name. Some of you might not understand. Some of you might not understand that. You might think we're crazy. But I'll tell you, if you knew what I knew, then you'd understand the urgency of the hour. There's a fight for the soul of the Republic.

And God had raised President Donald Trump to be the trumpet that's going to sound in this hour. That sounds like Alex. Sounds exactly like Alex. Now. This guy is Reverend Alex. I am a very tolerant man. People have widely discussed my ability to deal with things that I find important. But were we to cement some sort of actual Democratic Republic in the United States?

Sometime in the future. Perhaps it will happen. Has not happened yet. Before we do that, like right before, can we behead people like this, dude? I don't know. Like right before, like after the revolution, we're about to set up the government. We take a break. We take like a six-month, let's clear the queue break.

Let's just get everybody along, get a big line. I can't believe you. Like these aren't involved. You know, just a long line of white people. Just a long line of white people. I can't believe you're here now. All we know so far is that he's involved with an acai scam. He prayed with Trump.

Done. He's lying about some sort of a conspiracy against Trump. Three for three. Okay. So anyway, also, the queue is going to be a long one, dude. He also believes in blood libel and pizza gates. All right. From a sermon that he delivered on October 15th, 2017.

Should be allowed to talk about pizza during sermons. Quote. They sacrifice children at the highest levels in Hollywood. They drink blood of young kids. This is a fact. You remember when all the spirit cooking thing came out? That's commonplace, ladies and gentlemen. Most of the Hollywood actors you go see on screen,

what you don't know, they bring a witch. They get a witch. Personal witch or communal witch or family style witch. They get a witch. An old country buffet style witch. They get a witch. Yep. They do a big seance right there on set.

And then they worship devils. And they allow devils to come into them before they take the part of what they're going to act. It's a fact. It's a fact. Wait, what? He just doesn't even see it acting? Yeah.

That's it? It's a fact. That's the whole thing? It's a fact what I'm telling you. That's a quote. Now, I'm reading this and it's hilarious. But what I should tell you is I watched the sermon. This is from a sermon.

He is walking around in front of a congregation. Now granted, it's like, you know, some sort of Nouveau mega church type setting. Why? Well, that many people? It's more than you'd want there. But it's not giant. It's not like Crestlow Dollar or Joel Austin.

It's not that big. Oh, he's in the queue too. Oh, yeah. It's big. It's big. But like it's crazy that like this is being said in the context of a Sunday sermon. It makes me very uncomfortable.

Like, and I don't, I don't, I hate this rhetoric wherever it exists. The idea of they, my enemies drink children's blood. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. That's fucking absurd. I hate, I hate hearing it.

But man, it's jarring to see it in a church. It's fucked up. It's not great. It's really a place where that shit should not be happening. I mean, the thing is, this is, that's nothing to me. Like when my family, when I was coming up, But you were in a cult. When I was coming up, man, my family went,

no, this is after the cult. This is after my family left the cult. But you were in a family that was in a cult. And they were all about, they kept trying to find their cult. You're going to gravitate towards other fucked up places. They kept going to, they went to so many basement churches with the, the chairs that are made of, oh man. But I never heard anything like,

They drink children's blood. Weird shit. So anyway, let me get through the rest of this about Howard Brown, or Rodney Brown. You know, you know, Alex is like weird paranoid fantasies where he's like, they take you down to the basement. Yeah. Cover you up.

That was what I was raised on. That's your church. Like six years old. That is, I got a main line of that kind of shit. So it makes sense why you can put up with this show now. Yeah. So Rodney Howard Brown has also been an info wars guest. He was on on March 19th, 2018.

And when he was on, he described his and Trump's enemies as quote, globalist gremlins. So he's on like the alliteration. He's on board. I like it. Also side note. That's, that's got some dirty dossier to it right there. Globalist gremlins.

Yeah. Yeah. Rodney is from South Africa. White. Yeah. Oh yeah. Why? Oh yeah.

He moved to America in 1987. No. That's not the time to be a white person running away from South Africa without me thinking you're a white person. It's suspicious. Running away from South Africa. It's probably a coincidence seeing as around 1986. Oh, I can't be as racist as I used to be here.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I, I'll go back to America where it's better. You know, in 1986, 1987, the ANC was committing, I believe it's something to the tune of like it's 200, 400, 200 to 400. It's in, it's a lot. It's a lot. Anti-apartheid attacks in those two years.

There's massive global support growing for the free Nelson Mandela movement. Like anti-apartheid is, is taking over in terms of the country. Yeah. It's becoming clear in around 87. A little bit later. It's going to win.

That it's not going to work for these white people. Right. And the apartheid was on its way out. Right. The idea that this guy who's clearly a con man based on his Asahi and religion related behaviors was a preacher in South Africa who left in 1987 with his family to flee to America.

Right. Makes me think that. I can't see any reason. Makes me think he was up to some shit. The timeline doesn't match up. Yeah. You keep doing that. I don't believe in time.

Yeah. Apparently. Oh, hold on to that. Alex doesn't either. Alex doesn't either. Okay. So that's one of the books that Alex wants him to read. Here's the other one.

I gotta read that one too. It's, you know, it's not got to. In the three weeks. It's get to. No, no, no. This, this, this book. This is a very important book. I don't want to come back and not have done my homework.

You're not coming back. Let's do three weeks. You come on about this book. Yeah. Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam. And then you heard of this guy, Roger Stone. I, the name's familiar. Oh boy.

He doesn't know Roger Stone is Alex. At that moment is personally offended. You don't know who Roger Stone is. You don't know. I've thrown my life away for this guy. And you don't even know who he is. You son of a bitch. So Alex has to explain who Roger Stone is.

Right. And this explanation is not good. I, the name's familiar. Well, he's Trump's former wingman. Okay. Do you want to wingman this? Yeah. What's a wingman?

Kind of like, um, has your, has like a, like a tactical support type thing. Yeah. There's no, there's no Russians or just women. I would still describe it as a tactical support, but okay. Well, no, no. Gay guys have beards. Have you heard of that? No, I haven't.

A lot of gay guys that are, you know, they'll have a, they'll have a woman. They, they're married to that they're really gay. Oh, okay. Trump's not gay. Okay. But Roger Stone has been his wingman for 47 years off and on. What's a wingman? Yeah.

Well, you, uh, you described as having, um, someone who helps you with women. That's right. Okay. So you might want to read what Donald Trump's wingman has to say. Okay. Now there's that for you right there. Whoa, that was so uncomfortable because that's like, that's like, hey, look, Donald Trump isn't gay.

What's a wingman? Say it. Say it. Say he's not gay. There is that tone that's like, say it, you son of a bitch. You say it and you, you don't tell anyone what you saw here. I think we just got cornered in the locker room shower. Is that what just happened right there?

It felt so dirty. What's that? What the fuck? Does he not know he's broadcasting this? You know what though? He's saying, hey, hey, hey, hold on. Roger, look, Roger Stone is his wingman. There wasn't anything to do with Russia.

He was just having extramarital fares all the time that Roger gave him cover for. Come on. He said that. What's a wingman? It's a guy who helps you cheat on your wife. Alex has said that Trump didn't do that. He said that stuff before about him being his wingman and the old, there's only two ways you can really interpret that.

One is that Roger's a pimp or something like that. Oh, that's possible. And that he's just. Oh, Roger is definitely a pimp. No, no, we knew he was a pimp. He's a swinger. Look at the way he dresses. He's got a cane.

Man's got a cane. The other alternative is that he's cheating on his wife and the way he gets around it is that the woman is like, she pretends to be with Roger. Right. And then it makes sense why he's hanging out with Roger or why we hang out with this woman. But be that as it may, the way that. And it's also clear that Roger Stone explained to Alex what it meant, because Alex keeps bringing up the beard analogy, which does not make sense.

No, it doesn't. It's not, it's not a correlation at all. Roger, Roger's like, nah, nah, nah. You know what a beard is, you know, like that kind of thing. Right. Yeah. The other thing that I need to really make clear is that when we started this, there were two people in this room, not you and I in that room.

One of them is a mentally ill person who stalked a lady and is on the show as a novelty. The other guy wants to be his daddy. And now as we've gotten through it, I believe. I still have a hard time believing that this isn't like a terrible as a del sketch. Hold on. 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,160 This is a terrible long form as a del sketch. I need to make my point.

As we've gotten to this point now, I think that clip represents the point at which who's crazy in this room shifts. Michael Rotonda still needs help. He still is a person who's in trouble. But now Alex is more crazy than him. Yeah, yeah. And it's going to continue for the rest of this. How is this still going on?

We're about halfway done. What? This is so tragic. What are you talking about? We're more than halfway done. Jesus Christ, man. There's a lot here. I will say this.

Don't get scared. The last clip, I couldn't make a cut in it. It's five minutes long. Jesus Christ, Dan. It's worth it. You're an insane person. So in this next clip, I think we've seen the biggest shift in this next clip.

Alex discusses more wingman stuff. Right. And then he gets a little bit conflicted about whether or not he cares about Roger. Because see, you want to get in that world where there's wingman. Can you imagine being part of that? Don't you want to be a wingman? Don't you want to fuck that guy that's your wingman? I would say that common interests can come and go as the concerns come and go.

You can have long lasting support from people who have common interests in you. Sure. I'm just frustrated that everybody thinks that Roger Stone knows stuff about Russians. There's nothing for the Rogers. They're trying to indict him for financial stuff that's made up. And then the whole entire thing. I thought we were talking about everybody. Because they're so freaking stupid.

What Roger Stone is not just a political advisor to Trump. What he is. I already knew some other sources and I went and looked the New York Times knew 30 years ago who Roger Stone was to Trump. So I'm not giving out anything secret or any confidence. I'm just saying you might want to read. The book should read Donald Trump's wingman. Then it would be a bestseller.

It doesn't really get into that. But it is how to win it. Politics, business and style. Roger Stone at forestore.com. But you'll probably buy it at Amazon since it's a dollar cheaper. He gets a dollar 50 for every order you do a taxpayer money. So screw yourself. Go to Amazon and buy it.

I don't care where you buy it because it supports Roger. But brother, here's the deal. Yes, please tell me what the deal is. All right. Please get to the deal. I need to know what the fuck the deal is. All right. I have no idea what's going on.

Trying to call me brother. So yeah, I am a real man. I think that there's a little bit of weird conflicted anger that Roger isn't selling the book exclusively on info. Yeah, what the fuck. He's pissed off about that. And then also I don't know about this using the second person there. He's clearly in a conversation with this guy who's sitting across the table from him.

He's giving him a copy of the book and he's like you're probably going to go buy it on Amazon because it's a dollar cheaper. Go fuck yourself. Yep. Like what? 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:36,400 Why are you doing that? It's a simultaneous plug and love.

So Alex is like a tough love, tough plug. So Alex is like, hey brother, here's the point. Yes. And you want to know what the point is. I do want to know what the point is because it seems like there's not one. There's not much of a point. There's a point but that point keeps kind of moving whenever he rejects. Like this dude is staying right here in the pocket and Alex is trying to find a weakness.

Like don't you want to fuck? That'll turn you into a man. No. Don't you want a job? That'll turn you into a man. Money? Money? Huh?

You want money? Nope. Okay. We'll learn at the end of this that Mike has very clearly taken the job offer to heart. 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,400 And I think he thinks he's already an employee. But here we go. What's your takeaway from the talk we've had?

The UNI share a lot of common, we share common ideology and personally it's not, it's a unique thing to have the ideology that you and I both have. We'll quantify that ideology, define that ideology. He did not want to do the grassroots type goal. Like grassroots, things built on grassroots. Here's what you need to know. Yes, please. Here is what I need to know.

Here is where everything turns. Here is what you need to know. Okay. Is the sentence you fucking wish Alex Jones would say to you? Yeah. You know, you never want to hear him say, you never want to be a woman around him. That's one thing.

No, never. You never want to not be white around him. Those are certainly caveats. But you want to hear him say, this is what you need to know. Because you know things are about to get fucked up. And of course they do. Here's what you need to know. Your greatest accomplishment.

Is the fact that your ancestors went through so many crises and threats and disease and war and that you are their genetic expression. Okay. So you are your ancestors in that great space time continuum. The fact that you exist is an ultra massive success in this universe. Whitely. The fact that you are white is the greatest thing that's ever happened to you. Oh my God.

Or it's the greatest thing you've ever done. Do you know what the name of this clip is on my computer? White breeding for generations has led to you. Yep. That is exactly what he is saying. Exactly. But now the idea and the talk of the like, you know, your ancestors are through you and stuff like that.

That's not too new to us. No. But trust me, he spells it out more here and it's deeply disturbed. Okay. Where I would imagine biological life, compared to the some spectrum of the universe's measurements is in the Googleplex level sub point calculation. Sure.

So the fact that you exist and are made in the image of God, a sentient being and the space time continuum Sentient being. Makes you a super creature in the entire vortex of this dimension. Of existence. Or existence. Okay. Okay.

So there's that. There's that. Hey, Alex, true of everybody. That's literally true of everybody, except black people. Yeah, there you go. Non-white people. Non-whites. But I mean, I don't, the way he's presenting it, that isn't,

I mean, he wouldn't say this to a black guy. No, no, this is this is unless Kanye West came on. This is pure whiteness. It does feel that way. Yeah. It feels very much because of all the like, breeding and the ancestry that he's calling back to and stuff like that. Oh yeah.

It really, really feels like that's a piece of this. This is, this is definitely he was raised to believe that white people are chosen. Yep. He was raised to believe that white people are superior. Which makes it so fucked up in some way that. In that he's trying to raise a 30 year old now to believe that white people are superior. There's that. And that he's obsessed with false versions of eugenics.

Yeah. And lying to people about eugenics. Yeah. Well, that's the problem. They're lying to people about the real eugenics. Oh yeah. So, look, yeah, you're great. Here's what this is about.

Your greatest success is being born white. Everything that's happened in the past that you had nothing to do with. But also there's more to it. And this is Mike down clip. I think this is one of the most profoundly fucked up things I've ever heard Alex Jones say. Okay. And it goes on for a while. Okay.

Not, not just this clip, but I mean like what he's about to start talking about is like, this is why we're talking about Mike Rotondo. Okay. All right. Because he says this shit. Okay. Then there's the fact that you procreated, even though you ended up breaking up with your fiance or whatever and then ended up losing your son.

We had great, we had a great relationship for a long time. I understand. No judgment on you. That's a real thing. You went out, you found a woman, you had a child, you were fertile, you did that magic thing. That's the second thing you did. So you're part of this, of the, of the genetic and the spacetime electrochemical manifestation and genetic teleportation, time traveling system, it's life.

What? It seems like a long time to us, but it's no milliseconds. It's like the universe and how it's all like, I mean, I'm all my ancestors. This is a time, the genetics of that before me is hyper warping through time. So this is, this is just my, my ancestors and the energy all saw a big threat to us coming up to this point. So they built in momentum and then manifested what was needed in their energy and this time space to put me in the cohesion of like existence and exactly to take us, all of us next level.

So I'm, I'm a lot of people here. You understand? We're from, we're all from each other. Exactly. But I mean, they're really, they're good people. They're not aggressive and hateful and I just got to take on some bad people. So it's like in my mother's womb, all of it was decided with the mitochondrial DNA and everything to weaponize for me to come out and understand, but everybody has it to a

lesser degree degree. You have to decide to manifest that in your genetics, but it's sort of expressing your brain. So it might not have been done in the womb, but you can do it later. So, oh boy. Do you, what do you think about that? Okay. So if I understand correctly what he is trying to get across here is that

a pre-human existence, the very concept of life, recognize that eventually a threat would come to life. And so it put in forth a plan of action that led to Alex Jones being born in the right time to defeat the threats against earth. The globalists. Against life. You're thinking of this a little too. I think Alex Jones thinks he is Lelou from the fifth element.

There's undoubtedly like some sort of savior complex that he's discussing right there. That's gross. This is Jesus level. This is gross. I know. I know. This is weird. No, no, no.

This is severe mental illness. Yeah. Like when we, we talk about like, Mike Rotondo is, he needs to be off the streets, probably needs to go to a hospital, but like. Alex Jones needs to remain in a hospital forever. He needs to go to one of the hospitals from like the 50s. Yeah. He needs to go somewhere with padded walls, bro.

That, that idea that he's espousing there, that when I was in my mother's womb, see. Maybe he did. Maybe he's a ghost. Maybe this is an asylum story where he was killed in an 1800s mental asylum and now he's come back to haunt us. No. Through the radio. No.

Are we even sure that Mike Rotondo is there? I don't know that I'm alive. There we go. Anyway, I know that my ancestors are pissed off about it because I was supposed to do all kinds of shit. I was white. They're not thrilled. Like you were looking at it too broadly.

You're talking about all of history knew that there was going to be a threat and then created Alex Jones. Not just his lineage. Now granted, that would be most of the people in the world consider he thinks he's related to the tutors and he's confederate royalty and all this shit. Yep. Holy shit, man. So, okay.

In the womb. Yes. He was downloaded through the mitochondrial. The tribunal of Alex's ancestors got together and they're like, oh boy. Like in the movie Mulan. They're like, oh, and the mitochondrial DNA is Eddie Murphy as a moosh. I don't know. I don't understand.

It's a great metaphor. Okay. A hub. So they are similarly. They're like, there's trouble. Yeah. Shit's bad. Globalists.

They got everywhere. They got a footing, you know. Thank God Alex Jones's ancestors were on the job. Right. Right. Yeah. And they've been fighting globalism since before, like back when we thought there wasn't actually a globe.

No, because they already knew that globalism would emerge, which is why they had to set motion the plan. They probably know everything in the future. This is God Emperor of Dune type shit right here. This is the Atreides line. It's a lot. It's a hot load of nonsense. Yeah.

And it also, but I like the idea that they were like, yeah, let's fiddle with this. Let's make him, let's make him angry. Let's look a little dial. Let's make him angry. A little Westworld dial. Make him a guy who screams a lot, takes a shirt off. That'll defeat the globalists. Yeah.

We got him. Let's weaponize this baby. Yeah. Which is also a bad way to view your life as, as your genetics weaponized. Also, like a lot of this is cribbed from various message board posts about the Illuminati. Yeah. So this is, this is all stuff that he's taking as being like really important. This is like, you know how Kerry Cassidy will talk to a murderer.

Yeah. And act like he knows stuff about secret space programs. It's becoming very clear to me, especially as I look into 2009 stuff, read Alex's primary sources and stuff like that. He's the exact same in terms of not being like, not caring about where he's getting information from. Except he doesn't talk to Mark Richards. He just reads blogs. Yeah.

He reads blogs and message boards and then pretends that they're like, this is the truth. Like that. It's, it's insane. Now, this next clip I've just titled, I'm deeply concerned about Alex's wellbeing. That's a good thing to be moving forward. Your ancestors had will and existed and were amazing at every different level. You now are here. You have now continued the bridge and created another level of that genetic

electrochemical expression in the space warp you're making. So you've already executed the next level of the space warp. I want to be clear. He's talking gobbledygook, but I understand everything he's saying. Yeah. You know, it's not like he's talking above my head. I just, he's using unnecessarily stupid words. No, it's in the space warp.

Right. It's a space warp. Okay. Space warp. You want to execute the next level. So like my son's a function of me is what you're saying. A function of all of that. Everybody is physically and electrochemically connected all the way back to where we came from.

Back and back and back. It is a, it is like a power line. It's history. It's power lines. Yep. It's power lines. You know, you are back, whether it was billions of years, trillions of years or 6,000 years like misinterpretations of the Bible.

You are a continual line of all those people. Right. Their juice, their guts, their sweat, what they saw went through those genes all the way through to what you are right now. Pretty big. Alex doesn't understand epigenetics, but anyway. That's a nice life. So exciting.

And now you've taken the next step. You had a child. Doesn't mean you're perfect and not everybody lives in this thing. That, I don't mean that metaphysically or physically could be both. Now the next thing is the world has decided to create a buffered nanny state so that more powerful individuals don't manifest towards the next jump, which is going to be even harder. And so there's a, there's a conflict going on to kill this experiment of consciousness

before it goes the next level, because it's a particularly powerful experiment in consciousness by the mastermind. This is all from message board stuff. This is Harrison Bergeron. Yeah. Well, there's that too. There's flickers of Harrison Bergeron for sure through a lot of his like, they want to make you dumber.

Yeah. All that stuff. Like a lot of this stuff about the idea that like there's an upcoming, you know, they want us to fail. They want to sabotage humanity at this next time. It's going to be much harder for us to get up to the next level. Yeah. This is all shit I read on like above top secret and like all of these jackhole blogs

that I used to read when I was younger and smoked a lot of weed. All right. So I mean, when he's just, he's just relaying all kinds of stupid or shit. They're like, you should have known better. I read that I was high and I was like, oh my God, this is scary. And then I would come down for me and I'm like, yeah, that was fun. Yeah. This is all stupid.

This is all good. It is going to be high. Yeah, it was, it was, it's like watching a scary movie or something like that. Right, right, right. That's what the experience was like. And Alex lives in that scary movie. He's like, did you know that I live near Leatherface? He was my great grandfather.

Alex, come on in the space warp. It's just fiction. It's just online immersive fiction. That's all that you're engaging in now. Oh, space warp. But he thinks it's real because his ancestors created him in the womb in order to engage with this fucking internet immersive fiction. It's deeply tragic.

So this again, this next clip is just labeled deeply upset. I really need to do a better job with these clips, but I know that it's accurate. You have to build the stairway to the rocket by doing the petty things our ancestors did thousands of years ago. They dreamed of gods and wars and all these sophisticated things and world governments and mark of the beast thousands of years ago and pillars of fire. They could already see the future, but they had to have sailing ships and mathematics and teach people and slowly build the steps, build the steps.

And now we're at the door into the next level. But people that already got to the door looked back and decided, if all of them go through the door, they're going to challenge us on the other side. We need to cut them off so they don't go through the door. They don't know that that's the secret. You cut people off from the door. You don't actually go through the door. There's a trap door.

Yeah, I do. Where do you think that comes from? We're going to get back to this. But first of all, I love We fooled you. Everybody, we got another one in the trap door. This fucking idiot.

Now trying to close the door of the people behind him and he fell in the trap door. The door just opened up anyways. God damn, what an idiot. Something that I find deeply upsetting about that is Alex is describing this sort of metaphysical stuff with such concrete terms. Like they're standing at a physical door and they don't know there's a trap door. If you try and stop people from going through the door, they don't know there's a trap door. It's like, this is sad.

This makes me really sad. And again, it is. I'm just a big fan of the sudden appearance of a trap door. He might as well have been like, oh yeah. And you know what's underneath that trap door? Quicksand. Quicksand. The more you struggle, the more you keep going down.

You know what's in there? Quicksand. Crocodiles. Oh no. But they're really chill crocodiles so they don't drown. And if you treat the crocodiles nicely, you get to go right back to the bottom of the steps. As they give you a gum drop. I really thought of gum drops.

I don't know why you did either. I like it. It's good. So the thing is too, like a lot of this is really, it harkens, this harkens to again, themes that are just like these, these ideas are discussed on these NWO Illuminati message boards online. Also trap doors unlimited. This is all that horse shit.

Where do you buy a trap door? Well, you got to build it. You got to build it? Right. You can't just buy one? You know about the money pit? Not the movie. Not the movie starring Tom Hanks.

So who was it? Big Ryan knows the money trap. What is that? That is that island where they have a bunch of successive floors and if you care, I don't want to talk about this. I want to get back to the universe and good and evil. Yeah. So that the trick.

Oh, real quick. The trick. The thing that I love is the idea that Alex is going on this long thing about like there's a door and these guys are trying to stop you from going to that door. But they got a trap door. Trap door. And then he's like surprise the periods of the trap door. My favorite thing so far.

And then he's like, you understand what I'm saying? I'm like, it's like, you bet. He's like, yeah, I get it. Now he said, he gave a little pushback. He said, uh, where do you think this all comes from? Right. Right. But after saying, yeah, right.

Well then, yeah. Because I mean, he wants to know where evil comes from. Who doesn't know why, you know, because I asked you, he said, do you believe it's inherent that people pursue their dreams? What is it that is or is not inherent about the origin of these other things that are? Well, there's the, there's the knowledge of good. Oh, four ways to learn. If you want to be out more of animals.

David, where does the bad stuff come from? Is what I'm asking you. Well, if you're perfect and you understand the universe works and you've got an unlimited energy supply, you don't need to engage in manipulative systems. But in the knowledge of evil is knowledge of distortion and knowledge of manipulation. Okay. And so we have the knowledge of good and evil and the modern church teaches us, oh, don't have the knowledge of evil be a sheep.

That's another distortion. No, the knowledge of evil now that we're in this paradigm is the, is good because we have the knowledge of how the enemy's operating with the knowledge of evil. Are you following this? Yes. He's saying that because we know good and evil, it's okay for us to manipulate and distort things. Right. Well, because if you don't use the knowledge of evil, then you're a sheep.

Right. Because these other people are manipulating and distorting things. So why shouldn't I do it? I need to be able to use the tools of evil because I'm so good. And you don't want to be a sheep. Like that's like, what, there was an asshole who was like, you should be sheep in a flock. Do you remember that asshole?

Who was that guy? That fucking dude, he was like, you should all be sheep. It was Ben Hur. No, come on. It was Spartacus. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. The mainline Christian argument is you don't want to engage the knowledge of evil

because it's so seductive that if you knew that, you would get ahead with that knowledge of evil. What if you just chose not to be evil? But then the definition is broad. You shouldn't try. We're going to end this in a minute. Just got to stop. You got to be like, I don't want to pursue this line any further. Because I just basically said on air that because I'm so good, it's okay for me to manipulate

and distort things. Right. That's the power of evil. You got to use the power of evil. It's seductive. Alex, you just basically admitted that you're a propagandist, which is not news. But man, you were getting, he's getting so into that space where he's like, I want to talk so big. I want to try and use my flowery language to hypnotize this boy.

Don't you want to be like me? I'm a million. I mean, I'm struggling to get by by these pills. I'm not a cost so much to run the operation. Roger Stone has been Trump's wingman for 30 years, but also he doesn't cheat. No Russians. No, no, no, no, no. You can trust him.

This is a funny. I mean, with Roger Stone, he deliberately chooses not to use the knowledge of evil. Right. Totally. This is a funny moment where we've gotten out of esoteric stuff now. Right. There's a couple of really funny things that happen. And then there's this last clip where they're having two different conversations at each other.

And it's so fucking mind blowing. Okay. But before we get to that, Mike comes in with a, it seems like it's going to be a critique of Trump. And then it turns, it turns very weird. Do you remember when Donald Trump, but how much time do we have left? About five minutes. Go ahead.

Do you remember when Donald Trump tried to make his personal doctor in charge of the VA? Yes. So doesn't that seem like it's going to end up being like, why would he do that? Yeah. It doesn't end up that way. Yeah. Remember when they got turned down because he didn't have the experience running the VA? Yeah, that was why.

But he didn't have the experience. But that's how they defined it. Right. So you don't support that? You think that, because he chose that person to do that based on that person? No. I think that Mike started this question in a critical way. And then once Alex pushed back on it, he's like, oh yeah, of course he should have been allowed to.

He's trying to keep Alex calm. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. This is a guy who's dealt with rage before. I think there's a decent chance. Yeah. And I, from everything I can tell, I would understand why he's making me like, because I don't have to sit in the same room with him.

01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:52,240 It's hilarious. I'm grossed out. I would be furious if I was like, just say anything. Anyway, it just goes, we don't need to hear the rest of that quote. All right, all right. It's just that. And also, by the way, it wasn't just that Trump tried to appoint his personal presidential doctor.

He said he fired the other guy too. Yeah. So anyway, in order to put in his own. And also his personal doctor may have committed a bunch of crimes. Possibly. It's certainly possible. And the ones that he denied was just the one. And it was like, I wasn't driving like that.

So now Alex decides, I got to fix this kid. And I thought giving him a job was going to work. Didn't do it. I can't be around him. He's miserable. He's awful. He's miserable talking to this kid. Ruining it.

And so he's like, I got to find a new way. And here's his first volley. You should be when media calls you up wanting to fly you as I've seen you on national TV. You should say, yeah, I need $1,000 to take off. You probably would have made $20,000 all interviews you did. I wanted to give you $3,000 to pay for your flight to show you. Not because, see, a globalist would look at you and say, oh, this guy, nobody's doing, let me take advantage of him.

There's 7 billion people. Most of them are retarded. This has been done by design. Right now, Alex is pretending to like sort of put his hand over the mic. And it's almost like he's talking to him like, hey, you know that camera, it's not really on right now. There's 7 million people in the world. Most of them are retarded.

Not like you and me, buddy. It's like that moment when the knife salesman breaks character. And it's like, oh, look, I'm hustling all them, but not you. Right. This is crazy. But also I do like the idea of like, hey, charge $1,000 to 20 interviews. You got 20 grand. Anyway, I'm going to go back to the part where he's whispering,

because you need to experience this as a whole. This is so fucked up. See, a globalist would look at you and say, oh, this guy, nobody's doing, let me take advantage of him. There's 7 billion people. Most of them are retarded. This has been done by design. This is Alex Jones's jinx moment.

It's as if he's in the bathroom saying this. Let me go back to the beginning. There's 7 billion people. Most of them are retarded. This has been done by design. They're getting ready to call everybody. They got the race specific bio weapons ready, everything. I really don't want to be part of this process.

I've been offered to be part of it. I really don't want to do it. So I don't want to kill you. You understand? Okay. Yeah. Good. That's good to hear.

I'm not checking around, brother. All right. I'm not going to kill you. I'm saying, but I do. You repeating it makes me question that. On the good side, the brainiac consciousness, the way I'm talking is standard operating procedure at the highest levels.

Okay. This is the language. And you're like humanity over there, caught in a lullaby, caught in this trance with the computers and the entertainment and the choices. And so choices is not a great thing to throw the entertainment and the choices. All of the, hey, guy, Alex, what you're saying isn't brainiac consciousness. What are you saying?

Isn't smart. He's just using words that he knows don't make sense to most people. It's the brainiac consciousness. He's using words that will confuse people most of the time. Exactly. It's the space war. Exactly. That sort of shit.

It's the, it's the cosmic. It's a Google Plex on a decimal point basis. Yeah. Or whatever. Sub, sub. Sub, decimals. Sub, yeah. Section below the sub.

It's just like, it's not, I'm not confused by what he's saying. I'm confused by how he's parsing his ideas and putting like things that are unrelated together. I'm uncomfortable with the way he's doing all of these things. But when he's like, this is how the people at the top top, the top talk. Right. And when I'm just manifesting this brainiac consciousness,

he's trying to impress him. Right after saying, hey, everybody else is stupid. I'm not, you and I aren't like that. And look, they, they, they're all going to use race specific bio weapons and kill everybody, which isn't true. And then he's like, Hey, you know what? I don't want to kill you. That's the guy being like, I wouldn't screw you up.

Yeah. I'm not going to kill you. You know, I wouldn't. I don't want to be involved with these assholes anyway. You're not going to die. It's totally fine. I'm a brainiac. This is Alex is playing out his own thing here.

Yeah. Mike doesn't have to be here. No, this is all about Alex. Oh yeah. And his severe mental illness. Oh yeah. This is like, I mean, I know we're not professionals in the, the goldwater rule does exist, but his dude's crazy.

Yeah. So in this next clip, Alex asks about drugs. The boys that kind of buzz out and go into their own little world, they leave alone the ones that stand up. They put on riddling. I'm familiar with that. Leave on riddling. No.

They, they stopped doing riddling a long time. We go over and gets abused. Well, now they call it's Adderall, whatever. Adderall. Are you on any drugs now? No. When I said you actually have a little bit of what they call autism, that's just their own term for it.

The point is you, you need to realize that you're eccentric. Uh huh. And have you ever done oil painting? So he is trying to, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't be doing that. What are you doing? Alex, you cannot be doing that. What are you doing?

That is not good. What are you doing? Do you know what he's just doing? What do you think he's doing? He is, he is trying to find something to pin autism on. What, oil painting? Yeah. Why do you think that?

He's doing the whole thing. What drugs are you on? Oh, you know, people would say you're something called autistic. Right, right. You ever been around oil painting? Oh, no, no, no, no. You ever been under power lines? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's trying to, no, no, no, I hear it. He is trying to find a way to blame this guy's autism on something that the globalists have done. And then he'll be able to say, no, no, no, no. The globalist did oil painting. Yes, they put their shit in the oil paints. It's totally what he's doing. Jordan, you're right on a bunch of these things. With oil painting, you are not.

Okay. Here's the next clip. All right. This is Mike down. This is one of the, look, I understand where you're coming from and I admire that level of thought because it does seem like that's what Alex would be saying. It turns out what he's saying is a complete non sequitur question that leads to one of the craziest suggestions I've ever heard a human being make for another human being.

And then when that suggestion is rejected, Alex gets really mad and rejected. He feels very, very sad. Okay. Have you ever done oil painting? Oil painting? No. You have enough of a name right now. If you struck while the iron was hot and started a website about yourself and started a Twitter

and just said things you thought about the world and then you're a little late, but it's not like me promoting a little bit. You would then be able to make a living selling oil paintings and making statements. I mean, I could see, here's a, if you listen to me, I'm not an artist like that though. Oh, exactly. You couldn't do that. Exactly.

If you listen to me, I can see 50 pass for you. And if you listen to one path, I could just not control what you did, but just give you a path because you're just an example of humanity right here right now. Millennial caught in the mind wash. And so you won't, you're just, you're just, well, I couldn't do that. I couldn't do this. I couldn't do that. But you could get on an airplane and get paid $3,000 to come here.

And that's why I did this. You understand that, don't you? I do. That check will clear the bank when you cash it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't have. I, right up until the point where you said it, I never questioned it. But now Buckley check eight three zero nine four cancel.

Man, that was a mess. That was a mess. So his suggestion is because he doesn't want him to work there anymore. No, he's got to never wanted him to work there. So he's got the first suggestion, which is charge the media a thousand dollars to go on their shows, which is probably too late for that. And now his other suggestion is, do you do oil painting? I do not.

Well, if you had a website, you could just sell oil paintings and get paid to make statements on Twitter. Yep. What the fuck? Yeah. He's like, I think Alex is like, I could come up with 50 different things for you to do. You know, it's crazy, but you, you're a stupid fucking millennial. So you wouldn't listen to any of them.

You wouldn't listen to me saying you should sell oil paintings with your stupid response that I'm not an artist. What's, what's fascinating about that is I think what he just described is a social media influencer, which is a job wholly created by millennials. Yeah. So, but, but it's oil paintings. Yeah. Okay.

That's right. That's old people shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The millennials could never have thought of oil paintings. It's the mixture of the old and the new, which comes together to form the beautiful time traveling power lines.

Yep. Yep. Yep. I don't think it's someone being not willing to do a, put in effort when you say you should do something you can't do. And they say, I don't have a skill for that. Yeah. I think that would be scamming people by selling them shitty oil paintings.

I think you just described a con. Did you just describe a con? I got 50 different cons. Yeah. You know, you know how you don't make things that people want. 02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,120 Well, now that you're famous, people want those things. And you can just sell it to them, but you don't know any better.

You don't make those things. You got to start making them. Yeah. Now that you're famous, you got to do it. Now that you quantifiably have no skills. Such an asshole. But the reason he's doing this is because he accidentally opened the line of communication earlier in the day about giving him a job.

And he's like, you know how lame this guy would be around like Owen and Rob do like to sexually harass people. It's fun. No one complains except for that time that I accidentally hired a black girl. And then God that just blew up in my face, I'm going to hire this guy. He's going to be a buzzkill. My dad is going to have to deal with HR complaints. He's out on a boat.

He's not even at the office ever. What are we going to do? He's just pissed off. So he's like, you should sell oil paintings. Yeah. It's a good idea. Yeah. What was he thinking about George W at that exact moment?

It might have been. Was he just like, hey, George W, he was a war criminal and now he just sells oil paintings. That might be a part of it. You could be that. So here is the next piece where Alex asks for his final thoughts. And this is where I think Mike thinks he already has a job. Okay. Well, listen, Michael, we got 30 seconds left, a minute left.

Any final statements you want to make? Thank you for having me on the show. I really, it means you and I are going to be dealing with each other and working together for a while. But not if you don't start taking steps. We'll get there. No, we're not going to get there. The getting there is going up the steps. If you don't step on the first step and then step on the second step

and step on the third step, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it, which is step on step, which is I'm laying some steps for you to get to stepping. You take some steps out the fucking door to get to your plane. So now, Jordan, we have hit the last clip.

Yeah. And I apologize in advance that this is five minutes long. You got to give me a high sign when you want me to pause it or something like that. All right. Because this is two men having conversation with each other where neither of them understands what the other is saying. One of them is in a high status position. In this case, it's Alex.

It doesn't want to put up with the other guy's bullshit. God damn it. This is so crazy and also a rest in peace knock. Okay. I'm not comparing you to a dog, but I had a Labrador retriever German Shepard mix named Max when I was about six years old and we lived by the highway and somebody dumped him off. He was a sweet dog. But every time we tried to go, he lived down.

He was 15 years old. The hip dysplasia. I was there. He put him in the bed with me. I moved out of my parents' house strangely enough. He died the week before I moved out. I was like 18 when I was like five years old, six years old. And we're putting the dog in the bed with me and sleeping with him.

And I woke up, he was cold and dead in the morning, but he had a heart attack. Jesus. Or it was murder. We thought the point was every time I tried to load him up in my truck or my dad's land cruiser, he would get scared and pissed everywhere because he thought we were going to dump him. How much time do we have left? We're almost over. The point I'm telling you is listen.

So real quick, just because, I mean, it's very obvious what he's talking about. Like the metaphor is super clear. You're the dog. You're the dog. I'm trying to put it in the car. I'm trying to help you. You're pissing on me. And you're pissing all over.

I don't want to call you a dog, but look, there was a dog I had that, you know, it. Yeah. Yeah. He couldn't get over that trauma. I never beat the dog. Right. I love that dog. I buried that dog myself.

That was a dog of my childhood, but he couldn't get past the trauma and he couldn't trust me to get in the car. So now Alex is feeling this about Mike, but he's talking about himself. Yeah. There is no doubt in my mind that Alex is talking about his own pain and his own trauma. Yep. But using Mike as a surrogate to get it out and deal with it. I hated that dog.

No, I have been hurt. I have pain from the past that I'm unable to get over and he's putting that on Mike very clearly because Mike hasn't said anything to indicate any of this. Because he thought I was whoever it was. We got him. He's probably about seven months old who does nice to him and sweet to him, but then dumped him on the side of the road. My, I grew up with a, my grandmother's dog, Sandy, and she was my friend for years.

And I remember Mike. And your father brought your dog to you to die with you. My father came into my bedroom one day and told me that Sandy was dead. Well, she was about to die. That's honestly, we only died, right? She brought her and killed her. He brought her to the pound or to not the pound. Well, he was, he thought you were emotionally weak.

Good to handle it. Really? He was, he thought that he thought I was emotionally weak and couldn't handle. 02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:46,880 Well, I was still, I was, I was 18 and still living there and the dog fell over and clearly and my dad checked and said, yeah, his heart's palpitating. They're not going to save him. He was 15, you know, everything.

So I got the dog and stuck in the belly of me and went to sleep. But he was dead in the morning. So you did that? Well, I lived there and it was almost like an art double sign. My dog's dead time to go. Because a week later, I moved out. That was the whole point was childhoods end. Real quick, uh, the day before, uh, or on the, uh, earlier on the show,

Alex said that his mom kicked him out of the house because he was, uh, dating a woman who liked to yell at his mom. So the idea that his dog died and he realized it's time to get out of the house, childhoods and, uh, that doesn't match up with a story he told, uh, an hour earlier. Also this dog story that the competition is. I had my first dog when I was around, uh, 11. I don't want to hear it. And then, uh, later it died.

So from this point, from this point forward, there are two conversations that are happening. Yeah. The one is Alex still trying to make this very easy to understand point about, you don't want to go along with me trying to help you. Right. And then Mike now trying to be like, why did you think my dad thought I couldn't handle that? Yep.

So that will now be the flavor for the next couple of minutes. This is our playground. Yeah. But, but, but what I'm telling you about the dead dog is. Is that people get trauma and they live by that trauma. Their whole life because the dog, the story about the dog on its death, the dog pissed itself and moaned and ran every time we tried to take it on a road trip. Right.

Even though we took it on probably 50 to 100 road trips, it, and it still had the trauma. This is where you should be pointing. The most important part is the question. You are the dog. Dude, at the beginning of the clip, he said, I don't want to call you a dog, which means I'm about to give a metaphor. Where you're the dog. Yeah.

You are very specifically the dog. Yeah. Is it your speculation that my father handled Sandy that way because he thought that I was emotionally weak or is it? No, the story was about the dog's trauma. I'm asking you how you, where you're getting that information? No, no, no, I'm saying, where am I getting it from? I'm telling you, I've seen this before.

Where are you getting that particular people have to get? The dog was an animal. It was good, but it would not. Because I don't have available, that imprint was available to me. It would not get passed that it was traumatized no matter how nice I was to it for 15 years or 14 years. That it would not go to the vet. It would not go to the park.

It would not go on a road trip with me. Even though the road trips, it would always jump out of the car happily. It thought it was being taken to be dumped and would beg me and plead like a person every time I took it, even though I did nothing to it, because somebody else did something bad to it. Right. And that's what the globalists do is they pump out all this abuse to then blame on other people. Right. And I'm telling you, you can't be like that dog just because you've had a bad experience

in the world. You got to get back up on the horse and roll the dice again. Like the dog did. No, it's always different. It's not the same thing. The definition of insanity is believing it's the same thing. Like the dog, the story is about the dog always being traumatized and me having to traumatize it to take it to the vet or to the park or to go anywhere.

Having to pick it up while it pissed on me until the day it died, begging me not to take it away because of whoever it was taken away from. I didn't betray the dog, but every time I took it somewhere, I had to metaphysically experience the betrayal of the dog. Cycling again, because dogs are very psychic. Right. It's what we have around with psychic buffers. I'm going to leave you alone about these issues.

The point is I can't talk to you unless you start taking steps because you are patient zero in extracting the millennials out of the transfer end. Just like dogs that have been abused by the technology and the system and the neglect and the latchkey crap and all of it. You have to stop following the same thing. You're not, I'm not, you're not that dog. You're not that same person. I'm not that dog.

You're not reliving the same thing over and over again. It's a whole new world out there. You got to go. Your plane's in like an hour. Oh jeez. We're an hour and 20 minutes. You're right down the road. All right.

Hey, we'll talk to you soon. Yeah. I can come on. I don't have to come down here. I mean, if we can do something quick over the phone, we can do that too. All right. You'll come on. Michael Rotondo, take your stuff with you.

God bless you. 10 for the live transmit. That's the end. That's a fucking bad end. That's awful. So I want to say one thing really clear and maybe we should have said this at the beginning. The fun thing that was occurring in that dynamic there was him almost existing within the trauma that Alex is saying that the dog was in, like Mike sitting there going like,

so you're saying that my father didn't think I was emotionally strong enough? Of course not. Of course not. Of course not. Of course not. Of course not. I want to talk about my dog. No, but where did you get that information?

Listen, my dog died in my bed. Is that just speculation or did my dad talk to you about this in advance? Now see here. Because that's the trauma right there. Well, it is traumatic. That is the daddy issue we've been looking for. That's the smoking gun right there. And the way Alex Jones is interacting with him.

I think that borders on abusive, him saying something. Oh yeah, absolutely. Well, he just called him a dog. Well, not that part. He just called him a coward dog that's been traumatized and now is an incapable of moving beyond that while at the same time incapable of saying that he himself is also the traumatized dog, incapable of moving on past the traumas that he's existed in. I just understood what you're getting at.

I was looking at two separate pieces. Oh yeah, no. I did not understand that what you meant is that if one were tracking this conversation that Alex is having with him was obviously he's talking about inability to get over the trauma is what made the dog piss on him and not be able to go along with stuff. Exactly. So if Rotondo, if Mike were to, the way he latched on to Alex saying that your dad thought you were too weak, that could fill the gap of explaining what the metaphorical getting thrown out of a

car was and that's why he glommed onto it so much as opposed to it just being like, hey, the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, no. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. That makes the dual conversations not as curious. And I mean, if I were in his shoes and someone who's not, as Alex put it, quirky, I would still be like, the fuck's your problem? Why did you say that to me?

Right. That would halt the interview. Alex himself gives the Freudian slip whenever he's like, you're also the dog. Alex, you're a broken person. The same way that, and you're not going to, you're trying to fix you. Well, at the same time, you're trying to push you away. And it's all, this is such a psychodrama of bananas. And that's why we did a second one.

If this was a play, you would watch this and be like, this is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard before in your life. But watching this happen in real life, you're like, this is the dumbest fucking shit I've ever heard before in my life. Yeah, but especially because it's like, we cover the info wars world and there's only like six varieties of episodes or things that can usually happen. Right. The fact that this is a seventh now is like, who boy?

Alex trying to fix himself through daddying someone is an interesting late motif for info wars to take on. It seems so weird that it's so easy to jump into this, but the idea that we're doing a show about a crazy person trying to fix his own life through this on air. And probably trying to distract from the fact that like, he's not going to prison, but he's got to be worried that like, I got to answer some questions soon. Like there's going to be a coming to Jesus moment, whether I like it or not. So he's probably pretty stressed out about that.

Now I want to, I wanted to say this, I tried to jump into this right at the end that like I said, I think we probably should have said this at the beginning of the episode and fuck us for not kind of. Look, Michael Rotondo is someone who has a bad history with him stalking a lady. Now I don't know enough of the details of that to say that maybe his mental illness contributed to that. Most likely probably did. That doesn't excuse the behavior.

Nope. That is still bad. What I'm trying to get at is the reason that this is funny and the reason we're laughing at it is not because Mike and whatever mental illness he has or wherever he lands on the spectrum, we're laughing because of Alex's stupidity and complete obliviousness to the situation and the complete indecency with which he treats this guy. That's what's funny. It's not laughing at Mike, although certainly not letting him off the hook for anything.

Like this reminds you so much of like fucking 70s movies where the kid is growing up in the 70s and his dad was raised in the 50s and he's doing the whole distant parenting thing, getting drunk and yelling at this kid, not able to understand why he likes the rock music or whatever it is. Why do you like Italians? Why are you biking? Why aren't you going to the factory and getting yourself a job, you son of a... You'll never understand he did.

Like it's the whole fucking thing. Like breaking away. Yeah, except it's two adults. But there's no... Living in both parts at the same time. And there's no third act where the dad comes around and realizes, hey, my son's into some quirky stuff, but he's really cool or whatever. Even when the dad goes to the bike race at the end of breaking away and he's like,

hey, he's great. He did great. None of that. No, it's just going to be Alex. This is just two grown men with daddy issues being daddy issue to add each other. That's the really difficult, troubling part is that like you do sometimes as you listen to this, forget like that's a 30 year old dude. Yeah, I know, right?

He's being infantilized to a really disgusting extent. And that's coming from Alex. If the conversation was being done completely differently, I think that Mike would be able to handle himself quite decently. Like he made a couple points that were counter to things that Alex believes, and he didn't do a terrible job. In the same way, the last episode when he said, I don't think that it's great to have people not having food that need food or shelter on

the streets. That's going to cause crime. That's fine to raise taxes. It's going to get rid of crime. That and then what was the one on this? Oh, the 5g isn't really that scary. It's not going to kill us. I think we should probably worry about racism.

Like he's not an idiot. He's kind of an idiot in the sense like not idiots, not the right word. There's something that is, he's unable to understand what's appropriate to a certain degree. But I don't know if it's to a clinical level, but he's not stupid. If someone wasn't screaming at him saying complete bullshit and trying to be like, take my pills. That's unfair.

Brendan Dasey wouldn't have given a confession to all that bullshit if it wasn't for five straight hours of weird guys. Yeah. If Alex was there, Brendan Dasey would have become an info warrior and would have said it was a good idea or whatever. Also, that other dude still might have done it. Who fucking cares? I don't know.

Anyway. Injustice. Look, do you know 5g is coming? Who gives a shit about the justice system? 5g stands for five justice. So this, this brings us to plus one. Thank you. Back to even.

Back to even. This brings us to the end of our Michael Rotondo saga. In less three weeks from now, he comes back with a book report. I guess we have to do it. I feel like we don't. I think we don't know if we can. I think we got to the bottom of this because again, like we said repeatedly, it's not about him.

This is about Alex. This is entirely about Alex. And what kind of headspace he's in. And so we wish everyone the best. Say, I guess. Reconcile with your father's. Actually, Alex does say that in this episode. What?

Reconcile with your father? Well, in that, in that section where he's talking about how like, uh, genetically, it's a power line going down. He's like, whatever your dad did, you should go and reconcile. Tell him you're sorry. Yeah. Thank him for being white. You don't know what is dead.

I don't know either, but like, you know, abuse exists. I don't want, I don't want no part of that. No, neither do I. Just like, just like we said at the beginning of the last episode, hard pass on this story. Yeah. This is only fun because of Alex. Yeah, absolutely. So what else is fun is our website, knowledge fight.com.

Nice transition. Uh, I'm doing a lot of work on knowledge fight.com right now. It's not apparent, but when it is, once it becomes apparent, it will be. And then it'll have race memory because it's apparent. And it's got a white background. So we're good. It's kind of great. Uh, but there's a lot of fun stuff to enjoy on there.

Uh, and if you want to check it out, it's there. Knowledgefight.com. Yeah. Uh, if I was on Twitter at knowledge, I'd just go fight the website, uh, on Facebook. Whoa. That Facebook there. We're on Facebook. We're on Facebook.

There you go. We have a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. Uh, we are also doing a live show in Austin, June 15th. Beer land. It's got, the doors are opening at nine. Is that what we, is that for sure? Yes. Okay.

The show is starting at 10. Uh, we have, we have, I, I, I'm cool with it. But that's late. I don't know. I'm just hoping anybody shows up late night podcast. It's going to be great. It's going to be a lot of fun. All right.

So I believe it's you. I guess it is. Well, the really the only choice here. I certainly not going to tell Mike Rotondo to fuck himself. Alex is a bad choice. So I will go with Reverend Rodney Howard Brown. Go fuck yourself. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.