Knowledge Fight - #166: February 2-3, 2009

Episode Date: June 4, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the February 2nd and 3rd episodes of the Alex Jones Show. A lot of it has to do with Alex revealing his anti-government positions, but the gents also get to meet a weirdo/liar with the best fake name ever: Colonel Donn de Grand Pre. 

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are Dan Dan. Dan, if you had never heard this podcast.

Ever. But had instead just read a 10-page long review about Kanye's new EP. That never speaks about the music at all. At all. Just. The review of Kanye's album is just about our podcast. Just about our podcast. If you were an superfluous, over-wordy pitchfork reviewer who maybe has never actually heard music before. Jordan Holmes doesn't care about black people.

Exactly. 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,200 This is the Kanye West reviewer. I'd say that the review would be, I know a lot about Alex Jones. See, now that's a perfect music reviewer right there. 7.3. Sounds good. Yeah, I'll take it.

Pitchfork reviewed our podcast for a 7.3. Hey, it's not best new music level, but it's still pretty good. No, it's very serviceable. I bet we'll get best reissue about 30 years from now when everybody re-evaluates everything. Speaking of reissues. There we go. Today, we are back in the past. We're going over 2009. Perfect.

But I do want to say this really quick before we jump into business. Are you going to start talking about Redondo again? He was on again. Redondo. Redondo. Redondo is the beach in California. That's right. Yeah.

Mike Redondo. He was on again and people were posting in the Facebook group about him being on again. I think it's time for us to wave goodbye to cover this bullshit any further. I was done halfway through our second episode. I watched it. I watched his third appearance and he is there with a guy who has mysteriously come out of the woodwork and found out that he is a distant cousin of Mike's who is sure this guy. Sure.

This guy is also an infowars listener. Why not? And he's decided to let Mike live with him. And he really wants to be an infowars reporter. Okay. So the distant cousin. Yes. Okay.

So they're going to tag team it. Well, there's a big to do remote pieces. There's a bit of a negotiation about that because Mike doesn't want to be an infowars reporter. Of course not. And Alex does. And the guy, the cousin Tony keeps being like, well, I would like to do it. And Alex is really clearly like, I want Mike because he's sort of famous. Internet famous.

Yeah. I want to do something with him. Yeah. You're not as good to me. You're a distant cousin. What are you talking about? Yeah. And so there's just.

What are you fucking talking about? I'm a distant. I'm your distant cousin Tony is the thing that somebody says before they rob you. Tony. Hey, I'm Tony. You don't remember me. I'll be your mother's grandmothers on my mother's side. They were Skyping in from Tony's sister's child's bedroom too.

All right. Maybe more like. No, that's great. Oh, that's good stuff. That's good stuff is ridiculous. But if you were writing a parody of this, you would just write this. I would write that. Yeah.

You would just write that down. Like, well, that's the third act. Yeah, exactly. The other thing too is that Alex sets up the interview by saying like, well, Mike, you know, I paid you $3,000 to come down here and still hilarious. And you now see the millions of dollars of free press that I've gotten out of this. You understand how capitalism works now. And I'm like, Alex, you are straight up on air saying to this guy's face.

I exploited you, but I paid you a little bit. I used you as a prop. Do you understand how publicity stunts? Do you understand how I am embodying the worst impulses of late capitalism and how I myself need to be taken down because I have taken advantage of you a boy. Yeah. Boy, you understand how I don't give a fuck about whether or not you ever see your kid again. I don't give a shit if you're homeless.

I made so much free press out of this and think about how much more free press I can get if you turn your goddamn life around and get a haircut. Mike, Mike, I'm a sociopath. Basically, that might as well have been what he said. So we're not going to cover that. And I don't think we'll cover anything else that happens vis-à-vis Mike Rotondo unless there's a major break in the story. Man, if he becomes the new rainbow snatch, I'm in because that's, that's a character.

This is just a dude. The other thing I want to say is that I hear people's responses and I, my immediate reaction whenever someone, you say that I take criticism too personally and I say I just reflect upon things that people say and I process them and try to be, and I think there is a fair criticism that was made of our last episode and I don't think we did anything wrong, but I do think that we weren't clear enough about the different pieces of the story that we were talking about, wherein we kind of were coming from a perspective of we believe that Mike is on the spectrum, it's on the autism spectrum and we also think he's dangerous and

mentally ill. Not simultaneously, those things are unrelated to each other. And I think we did a shitty job of being clear in our language about that and made it seem like they were connected and I apologize for that perception. Yeah, by no means. I don't think that's fair. Probably the best reason that you can take it that we don't mean that is we didn't consider it in the moment because it's so obvious that those two things are unrelated to each other.

And I would hope the previous 700 episodes or however many we've done should give you some sense of where we're at and also. No, it actually turns out we're the only pro, like the most progressive, most equal rights based podcast, but you still got to exclude somebody and it turns out all Asperger's people got to go. It's just, it turns out it's a weird, it's a weird thing we do, but what you're going to do? And the other, one of the other reasons I think, because I've been reflecting on this a little bit, not taking it personally and not like beating myself up about it, but I wanted to

sort of, I don't believe either of those two things. I've been having a great week. Okay. Taking a lot of walks. Looking off into the middle distance in the rain. I've been walking. I've been getting up in the morning and taking walks. There's a short, super nice.

There's a short distance between reflect and dwell, dad. Man, I've been taking, taking these walks the other day. The other day I was taking a walk, right? Walked down the street. Yep. Walking right down the street. 630 in the morning, something like that. Just early morning.

Wrong, wrong hour. Early morning walk. Having a great time. No, thank you. Right. Walking down the street. Minding my own business. What do I see out of the side of my eye?

I see a moped with a sidecar. How does that not set your day off in the right direction? That is awesome. A moped with a sidecar. Not five blocks from my house. All right. Miracles do happen. Then I heard a squirrel hit the ground from a tree.

It was terrifying. It was like, it sounded like a textbook being dropped. Did it fall? Painfully? It walked away fine. But it gave me a look that seemed to imply it wasn't happening. It was embarrassed. Yeah, a little bit.

It was that moment where you trip going up the stairs and you're like, oh, and then you see and there's one guy and you're like, you and me die with this secret. You and me fucking die. You never talk about this. The squirrel gave me that look. Yeah, OK. So I've been taking a lot of walks and there's some reflection involved.

And I was thinking about it. So anyway, that's all to say, hey, sorry we weren't more precise in our language. We'll try to be better in the future. You know, it's just one of those things. Sometimes you just don't realize that there are people listening. You know? Fair enough.

Fair enough. Why would they? It's our default position. That's the best point. It's kind of like it's shocking that anybody listens to anyone cares. But we do appreciate it. As we appreciate. There we go.

That was the transition I was waiting for, Dan. I'd like to give a shout out to a new donor who's joined up. Thank you so much, Dylan. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, Dylan. I'm not doing it. There's no Highlander named Dylan.

Nope. All right. I was a look. The first name that came to mind was not the one that I want to say. OK, but here's a name I want to say. Yeah. I'd like to give a shout out to someone who has bumped things up and become themselves a raptor princess.

What? I'd like to thank you so much, Scott. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser little, little titty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. I know how to read. I am out of control. I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life. I really haven't. I bet you money.

There are few living black people that have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin. Both those guys were complete badasses. Complete studs. Hi, what did you say? Welcome to McDonald's.

May I help you? I'm Betty Sanders. So thank you so much, Scott. Man, you know what's crazy about that drop? What's up? It has actually gotten progressively darker as we go along. Yeah, yeah. It is.

It starts out real fun and like, ah, bah, bah, bah, bah. And then racism, real hard racism and an expressing of admiration for Hitler. Least, like a doff of a cap particular. Yeah. Yeah. But like to really thank you. And we know that he at least is consistent

because does not mention Mao. He hates the chai comms. Absolutely. Hates the chai comms. But thank you so much, Scott. Scott's been around a long time. Old time listener. We appreciate it.

Thank you so much. Yes, thank you very much. There have been a couple of people who have jumped on board since we put out the word that I will be breaking down none dare call a conspiracy if we have 15 new donors by the end of June. I'm having a great time. Yeah.

Taking those walks. I've written about 25 pages about the first 10 pages of the book. Jesus Christ, Dad. It's going to be a disaster. How long is this book? I don't know. But I'm dunking on this guy. It's like I have written so much

and it started with a really clinical tone where I'm like, this isn't true, blah, blah, blah. And Mao is just like, look at this asshole. It's just become like I have now pissed off of him. So you've graduated to do in the thing where somebody actually dunks on a dude and then stands over him and flexes on top of him. That's what you're doing now.

I'm you're for real dunking on him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's very fun. You are posterizing the none dare call a conspiracy. Gary Allen is posterized. Yeah. Yeah. If you would like to support that or help that come to pass,

you could go to our website, knowledgefight.com, click support the show and that will be coming out. I don't know if anybody. If we get 15 by June 1st, I'm sorry, the end of June, then it'll start July 1st. Perfect. And if not, then I guess whenever we get to 15, I guess. We'll see.

Anyway, we're very loose rules. Anyway, enough of this bullshit. Let's get down to business. Today, Jordan, we're going over. To defeat the Huns. Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons? All right. I think I'm going to let it go.

I could do the whole thing. Keep going, baby. Stop. The saddest bunch I've ever met. And you can bet before we're through. Somehow I'll make a man out of you. So we're going over February 2nd and 3rd today. Boy, I wanted to try and get three days crammed in.

But it just wasn't going to happen. And there's a natural distinction. But. Well, next week, we start with back at the regular schedule again. So we're fucking right on it. 2009 stuff is we're about to hit some pay dirt. Some of the unified field theory of Alex Jones is going to come into much sharper focus really soon.

Because if we recall, February 27th. You just pointed to the board, which I loved. February 27th is one of the first Tea Party rallies. Yes. The first major ones. Yes. And so what we're seeing right now is the building towards that. Whether or not Alex has any awareness of the forces

behind the scenes or not. The amount of coke money he's about to get. We will find out. But first, before we get into today's episode, a couple of out of context drops. I'm just average intelligence. Yep. I agree.

Maybe. No, I would say below. I would say below. But then he steps it up a little. I'm brain damaged. Yep. Yeah.

00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,080 You know. Yep. You're stuck under that house. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. I have chemical lobotomy. OK.

Probably. Sure. Yeah. Sure. All right. All right. Our first moment of silence. That broke it.

I thought there was another drop coming. No. Just the three. All right. Why did you turn and look at me then? I don't know. I don't have a response. I did.

It was. So, Jordan, last we discussed, I believe we left off on January 29th. If that's, if I recall correctly, let me confirm that. Bop, bop, bop. Last time on Knowledge Fight. Yes. Past 2009. We had the 29th of January is where we left off last time.

And on the 29th, we had a show. I said 29th again. On the 30th, a guy named Bob Dasey sits in. He's another Austin weirdo. Related to Brendan Dasey? I don't think so. Oh, OK. I think unrelated.

Although he does speak with a gentleman's twang. All right. Country twang to his voice. He fills in, so I didn't listen to it again. Who gives the show? Yeah, yeah. Right. So then February 1st is a Sunday.

And I listened to it. And Alex is just in repeats. He has, he just replays his interview with David Ike. And I'm like, what's going on here? This is super weird. And then we get to February 2nd. And Alex explains where he was. My way was paid.

So I went to the Ultimate Fighting Championship. Joe Rogan. I figured it would be good to network with Bokes and see how many of the Hollywood folks I didn't know were aware of the work we're doing. And we ran into quite a few prominent people that are certainly aware of the New World Order. That was interesting.

I'll, I'll get into some of what happened there. And just the soullessness of Las Vegas. I haven't been in that place in 10 years. He doesn't end up getting into the soullessness. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. But big news. What's that?

Big news. I flew in from Las Vegas last night. Boy, my arms tired. I hate you. Later in the week of not today, I'll make it one. Just right. I walked into the MGM Grand. And it was like everybody had their souls sucked out of them.

People that were actually there for the casino. And then the next day, all the UFC champions showed up. They were a different crowd. They were all in shape and crazed looks in their eyes. But certainly was Babylon. It was, it was interesting. But I don't think I'll be going back. I have too much important work to do here.

But I met Eddie Bravo, who's a huge fan of the show. What a, what a nice guy. Jiu-Jitsu guru of the 10th planet. Jiu-Jitsu. Nope. That was interesting. Even laughs. That was a real laugh too.

Put it in the books February 2nd. That was when we began our Eddie Bravo romance. February 2nd, 2009. The day that Alex Jones admits he's met Eddie Bravo that weekend. So at that UFC event, whatever that weekend was, Alex Jones and Eddie Bravo's worlds intersected and nothing would ever be the same again. Oh, it's weird how Alex doesn't talk about how the UFC fighters all have to have day jobs because they don't get paid enough for these fights and they also don't have insurance.

Even though that fucking asshole who runs the UFC thing is like a billionaire or whatever, fucking shit like that. It's just, it's all of that shit. Like it's all of that. It's all of that. Like there's that lawsuit going on right now. Is it? Yeah. There's a lawsuit about the classification of USC fighters as employees.

I can't remember the name of the lady, the woman fighter who was bringing the suit. I literally just read an article about it. It was an article. That's great. It was an article about the implications that pro wrestling will have if the suit is successful. Yeah. If they win that one, pro wrestling is going to get health insurance for the first time. It's going to be a lot of dominoes falling over. Oh yeah.

The exploitation of these workers is unbelievable. Especially for their short careers and the damage that's done to them and you're not even going to take care of them. You make millions of dollars off them for one night and then they die two years later. Like fuck you. Most people seem to have little sympathy about it because of the high amount they make for the work that they do. Not considering that like the training is work too.

Right. And in terms of the WWE like travel is, you have to pay for your own travel. And you have to have a, you have to have somebody who trains with you. You have to have somebody who handles your stuff. Like you have to, you're running a small business. You need a body man. Yeah. You need a Farnsworth Bentley.

Absolutely. Of your own. So anyway, this is all to say that you guys better, I mean, you got to be employees. You got to unionize. Come on, man. We all got to unionize. One of these days. National union.

So like I said, the Tea Party is starting to kick into gear. And you know, as this time goes on, we will see the effects of that. But here's where Alex's head is at, which I think might be related. That's right. We're down here in Austin, Texas. And the main mothership is up in Minneapolis, Minnesota. But we are growing the Info Wars Command Center and have some big announcements coming up in the next week, week and a half.

I'm just going to leave it at that. Big announcements coming up. Big revolutionary developments with this radio show and more. So stay tuned for that in the next week, week and a half. I might even announce it the next few days, but I'm nailing down a few other things before we do that. Huh. Revolutionary changes are afoot at Info Wars and Alex Jones LLC right around the time that there is a giant coke cash influx into organizations like Glenn Beck,

organizations like Sean Hannity. Huh. Yeah. It's curious. It's interesting timing. Alex. It's interesting timing. We just had a huge opportunity roll along and something's going to happen in the next couple

of weeks or whatever. I have to nail a few things down still. Got to negotiate my contract for hating Obama. Alex is talking a bunch about on this episode about how he's going to hire more people and about how we're going to push through and expand even though the economy is getting worse. That kind of hubris is pretty amazing. Right. It indicates to me some sort of an awareness.

Now, will you match that with the fact that he's been saying that a money bomb is coming up? You start to get a sense and we've seen this a couple times throughout his history. These money bombs happen at convenient and weird points. In 2015, it happened a couple months before he joined Team Trump and it happened a couple, maybe a couple of weeks after Ted Anderson, who is what he was talking about, the headquarters in Minnesota, Ted Anderson lost his license to sell gold bouillon. Midas resources completely collapsed. A couple of weeks later, Alex Jones does a money bomb.

Right now in 2009, he's pimping a money bomb right around the beginning of the Tea Party. It's very interesting. These timing things are super bizarre. It's crazy that he bought three car washes, which are conspicuously cash-only businesses at the same time. It's so weird. It's so weird. Bookkeeping is hard to do, Dan.

I understand that we can't make a case in court off this. No. But I think as time goes on and some of these dates getting more nailed down, the circumstantial case is going to be damn it. Yeah. It already is in my head. Yeah. There's, I, when we started this podcast, I had a lot of questions about Alex Jones.

They're all getting answered pretty harsh. I have answers for most questions that I used to have about him. I'm pretty clear that he's full of shit. Yep. Pretty clear that he's been sold out for years. Write that down. Anyway, some, someone I do have questions about though. Any Bravo?

No, I'm pretty clear on him too. He's just dumb. Yeah. Flat Earther. Sweet, but dumb. Sweet, but dumb. This guy used to be the president. All right.

Which guy? This guy. He had a peanut farm. You know that guy? He had a peanut, Jimmy Carter. That's the one. Yeah. The guy who had to give up his peanut farm because he was worried about impropriety and

perhaps people would view it as a way for him to be corrupt. Right. And he thought that the office of the presidency must be above the appearance, even the appearance of corruption, Dan, above it. Right. Let alone actually being fucking corrupt. Now. What kind of president would ever ruin the office of the presidency by being the most

corrupt person in the fucking world? See, now that sort of thing would lead me to believe that Jimmy Carter reasonable ass cat. Yeah. But this clip makes me think otherwise. By the way, Jimmy Carter came out and said that 9-11 should be investigated as a cover-up and that we don't know exactly what the truth is that happened with that. So that's good for Jimmy Carter. That story is up on prisonplanet.com right now as well.

Do you believe this? At this point in time, isn't he in another country building homes for people? He's not. He's on a book tour. He's on a book tour. Okay. And I know this because what Alex is basing this off of is a guy from We Are Change, which is an organization that we're going to have to talk about a lot in the near future,

but not today. They are a bunch of weirdos that are vaguely related to Ron Paul, vaguely related to 9-11 truth, vaguely related to Alex Jones. There's a lot of, it's a mess. They're a huge mess. They're a little bit in every Venn diagram. Yes, of this weird world that's forming in 2009 and has formed. And so one of the guys from We Are Change went out and cornered, not cornered,

he just got a book signed at a Costco when Jimmy Carter was on his book tour signing books at a Costco. Here's the audio. I was just wondering if you'd support the victim's family members at one of their investigations at 9-11. Considering now we're at 9-11, would you support it? Your books are down there. Yeah, I don't have anything to do with it, but it would be nice, folks.

Thank you. Thank you for your presence. That was it? That was it? That's damning of it. That is damning of it. A man saying yes to get you to go away? That's clearly a 9-11 truth.

They're right there. A former president at a Costco being polite to someone who wants his book signed. He said he wants an investigator as a cover-up. Oh, Jimmy Carter. His response was, yeah, sure, I don't have anything to do with that. It's not me, but I think it'd be nice, I guess, if they want it and they're victims, then I suppose.

00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:01,920 All right. So one of the... Now, here's the only thing about that is given all the shit that went down during Jimmy Carter's presidency, I could totally see him being a little bit on the side of like, we had another Bush in there. So who knows? He might have done it. I know Dick Cheney personally.

That dude would bomb anything. But Kat's not going to say that at Costco. That's true. That's true. To a rampant leader. I mean, well, unless he's got a membership, then he's contractually obligated. That's true. You can't lie to a Costco member.

It isn't the Bible. It's in the Bible. It's in the rules. It's in the Constitution. Terms and conditions may apply. Right. The 10th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. So at this point, Alex takes a pivot and he doesn't have much going on on the show on the

second. He has one guest. His name is Dan Hamburg. He's a state member of the state Congress. There's a... He was on... He was in Congress for like a really short period of time. Yeah.

Representative. He's like a state representative. That's the word I was looking for. All right. All right. In the legislature. Yes. He was in for like one term and then he left and got involved with the Green Party and also a guru.

Okay. It's sort of a swami. So I'm guessing that ignominy could be applied to the way that he left. I don't know. I don't know all the details. I didn't look into it much past the fact that he started hanging out with a swami. Hey, man. Hey, man.

How dare you? Have you ever read The Autobiography of a Yogi? 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,960 Those dudes can float. Whenever... Those dudes can float. Whenever I hear somebody who's involved in politics who then gets involved with like a charismatic spiritual leader, I'm like... Speaking of which, I want to give a preemptive go fuck yourself.

Okay. To this new podcast. Let's start first. Go fuck yourself. All right. This is to a... Preemptive go fuck yourself. This is to a new podcast that's out on the Howl app from Ear Wolf.

It's called The Gateway. And it's about Teal Scott, or I'm sorry, Teal Swan, that do you know who she is? No. She puts out YouTube videos where she stares into the camera and like speaks in a lilting voice using neuro-linguistic programming type little tricks to tell you about like your past lives and your soul and stuff like that. She's been around forever. I used to watch videos of her back when I was fucking stupid and smoke a weed all the time. Right. Mostly because she's incredibly gorgeous.

Of course. And she sometimes would talk about Atlantis and it's kind of interesting. That's fun. Now, here's why I say fuck you to this show. I know already that this podcast is just going to be another one in the long line of these fucking serial knockoff podcasts that end up covering a topic that's kind of interesting. And then in the last episode, it'll be like, well, I don't know. Like that was that one about Franklin, that cult leader guy at the end equivocated in the last episode. Yeah.

It was the one about Heaven's Gate and the guy in the last fucking episode was like, maybe they were all happy. Yeah. Go fuck yourself. You did an entire series about how Marshall Applewhite was a fucking crazy dude and he led to these people's deaths. And then in the last episode, you're like, you know what? They might have felt like they belonged. But maybe there's Heaven's Gate in all of us. Oh, fuck out.

Fuck, come on. So I know at the end of this one already, they're going to be like, yeah, but maybe Teal Swan helps her, the people who follow her. Like, no, she's a con woman. All of these people are con people. All these cult leaders. Maybe she's just like an MSR one. Is she ASMR? Yeah, yeah, yeah, ASMR.

Was I talking about meningitis? I don't know what MSR. Uh, yeah, she could just be talking real soft and people just like to hear that. No, no, there's, there's, there's cult aspects to it. We just like to watch some of her videos. They're, they're, they're absolutely cult aspects. All right. So she's a con woman. Yeah. But at the same time, like I get the impulse to make those episodes, like those shows like that,

like have at the end, like, oh, maybe people got something out of it, like that sort of thing. But can you imagine after we're done with this podcast? Can you put it up on the board that that is exactly what we're going to say at the end of this podcast? We're going to, because they're going to do like 20 episodes and then they're going to end it. And we're going to do roughly all the episodes up until the point where climate change destroys this entire country. And then we'll be like, but you know what? Alex Jones did make a lot of info warriors, very happy. He made them feel secure in their fear.

Yeah. And maybe that's all we really need after all. You know what? It's just like when you watch a horror movie, sometimes you like to be scared, Dan. It's like, you son of a bitch, how dare you? How dare you do a podcast where you investigate some subject and the entire thing is about how like, here's the evidence that they're fucking with people. And then at the end, just like double back to be like, wow, we're not saying anything.

I hate it. Take a position. Anyway, I will still listen to it, but of course you will. But just because I want to be right, you want to get to the end so you can be like, haha, I told you so. Exactly. All right. So anyway, we're going to get a great right up at the end of that podcast.

Considering that podcast is put out by gizmodo. Oh, no, we're not, we're not getting anywhere. Yeah. So this next- It's put out by gizmodo? God damn it, guys. Come on. This next clip, Alex takes a call from a listener who's very clearly a sovereign citizen.

Okay. You can tell by his language and this sovereign citizen. It's a weird problem that he wants to talk to Alex about at the end of this. It's about his free speech. Oh, I was hoping for- Roy in Michigan, you're on the air. Roy. Alex, you know, every time that they come against my neighbors, freedom of speech or

come against his right to travel without a license, every time that they come against any of the constitutional rights, it's done through the courts. And what needs to be done is these courts need to have a number of the neighborhood get together around that individual and take him to file a waiver of tort against the judge. And enough judges get this file against them, and they will back off. Well, you're right that- What? The courts are becoming so corrupt it's comical that it wasn't so serious.

And because communities don't stick together, because we've been taught to watch our TV sets, to not go talk to our neighbors, people don't sit on their front porches anymore, people don't go barbecue in their backyards, maybe once a year for the Super Bowl. We need to, we, first off, we need to file a waiver of tort, which sure, if enough, like, if enough judges get it, like, this dude's, this dude's idea is that- This is foundational sovereign citizenship. This dude's idea is that if enough judges get these, they're going to be like, whoa, we better change the law.

Everyone knows that they're sovereign citizens, we can't fuck with them anymore. That, oh. Too many tort waivers. Love it, love it. A waiver of tort? Whenever my neighbor is not allowed to travel without a license. How dare they? Two DUIs, and now he's not allowed to travel without a license?

Awful. Although rhetorically, I'll say it's an amazing pivot for Alex from, we've got to have these waivers of torts against boys and being like, no one barbecues anymore. All right. That was good. I do not want to talk about that thing. But hold on, we have not gotten to this guy's problem yet. We are just looking at the glowing mind control box and not living while the organized government picks us off one at a time.

Go. And they're trying to pick me up right now for my freedom of speech. And of course, I'm going to fight this battle by myself, but I shouldn't be fighting it by myself. What are they doing to you? What's happening? Well, I have a billboard in my front yard, which is, it's a 12-foot high and 61-foot long. And it lays out the night one word and lays out the wake hold that lays it all out. And it has even has it for worse as one of the sources for getting the documentation of what I'm saying.

Hey, buddy. Hey, buddy. If I got to trim my fucking hedge, you got to take that billboard. The fuck that is killing property values of the movement. You asshole. His voice to delivery. I have a billboard in my front yard. And you're like, well, there's clearly not a real billboard.

It's 61 feet. Wait, what? It's in your feet by 65. By what? Oh, so you have you have a billboard in your front yard. Also, I rent. I mean, I understand. I get it.

I do. I really do get it. I get it. I don't. I want to know about the logistics of this billboard. I don't think it's a billboard. What did he hire people? Did he?

I think when you think billboard, you're not thinking the right thing. I think you got a foot by 60 foot seems billboarding to me 60. No, no. Wait, wait, did he say 60 foot? I feel like he's I may have I may have heard maybe it's 12 by six feet. No, he did say 60. I think he said six 12 by six would be nothing. Yeah, exactly.

He said billboard 12 by 60 seems billboard 60 feet is so big. It's so big. It's 10 of me that. Yeah, that's that's six basketball hoops. Let's just let's just think of other things that will eventually lead to 60 20 yards. Oh, man. That's bananas. That is one fifth of a football field.

That is a if you get a holding penalty, then you have first and 20 to go. You got a you got a penalty. Yeah, size of this bill. No, you got to have two penalties to get to the size of the billboard. So I feel his pain in terms of free speech. I don't I don't. This is a no empathy situation for me in a vacuum. I get it.

I get it. I get it. You should be able to put up a billboard if you want to. You should not. But the reason you can't is because of like neighborhood associations because of agreements with your your fucking over your neighbors because of the social contract. And because like if you're put if you're living in a place where you can put up a billboard conceivably, the people will see who can see it also are in a residential neighborhood

who own their houses. Yeah, you're not going to get too many new people seeing that billboard. Seems like it would be not not super effective. Um, guys, I didn't expect you were going to talk about this billboard this much. Let me let me tell you something. You have no idea the kind of morning sunlight you are going to get out of these windows. Now your evening sunlight is going to be blocked by a giant fucking billboard. Yeah, one that says info wars on it also morning sunlight.

Oh, the windows also good luck reselling your house. 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,320 So in this next clip, excuse me. You want me to take down this billboard? Um, free speech infringement. I have a waiver of a tort waiver. I will. I will take you to court.

Oh, no, I waive tort. I can't take you to court. So in this next clip, Alex talks about how there's a lot of people from the Trilateral Commission. Oh, yeah. Involved in Obama's weak old presidency. He's already got to keep that in mind. Already doing it about a week.

We're still only a week, but a week and a half. This has evolved very quickly for one week. They've set them all up on paper. American Union is openly operating. I was watching Davos Switzerland meeting economic form. They were admitting all this. I mean, but then the public isn't watching that. They've been told it doesn't exist.

The pre-election attention is reminiscent of Brzezinski's. Real big new Brzezinski's. Yeah, but real quick right there. He went from talking extemporaneously to reading something without saying what he's quoting without saying that he's reading something a source tutoring of Jimmy Carter prior to Carter's landslide election in 76. For anyone who doubts the commission's continuing influence on Obama, consider that he has already appointed no less than nine members of the commission

to top level and key positions in his administration. According to official Trilateral Commission membership list, there are only 78, 87 members from the United States. The other 337 members are from other regions. That's in less than two weeks since his inauguration, Obama's appointments encompass more than 10% of the commission's entire US membership. There's a really easy explanation for that. What's that?

It's a really elite group with very competent people. I mean, I don't know. I think that there are. I don't believe in competence anymore. There are simpler explanations than one world cabals. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Is this a mere coincidence or is it a continuation of dominance over the executive branch

since 76? Well, look at the former read the policy reports put out about all these characters and they're all calling for world currency, world tax, world army, world regulation, gun confiscation, and they come in and what are they doing? For information, read the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty. So right there. Where is the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty? You see, he says that the Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty right after he's talking

about platform papers, if there's policy papers and stuff like that, which is made to make you think he's trying to anchor in your brain policy papers and Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty as if to imply that Trilateral Commission put out a paper called usurping sovereignty where they're like, fuck, we're going to usurp sovereignty or somebody else wrote a thing about how it revealing how the Trilateral Commission is usurping sovereignty. It was a blog post by a guy named Patrick Wood called Trilateral Commission usurping sovereignty and nailed it. The sequel to it is what Alex is literally reading off on air.

He just, he spent, like he does no real analysis of it and he just reads off verbatim from this blog post that was originally on a website called newswithviews.com. I like it. We're going to get to that. I'm going to, I'm not going to lie. I think that's a good.com. We're going to get to news with views here in a second. Can we, can we get a, is that domain expired?

No, it's still there. It is. And we're going to talk about it in a second. We're going to have to buy it. So Patrick Wood is a guy who now runs a website called technocracy.com. I believe he's warning people about the coming technocracy. Not as good as news with views. He is also one of the main speakers for the red pill expo that I desperately want to go to

coming up in Spokane in like June. Uh-uh. No, I can't do it. I can't go. That's where the cult I was born in. Spokane. Yeah. Spokane Washington, right? Yep. I'm sure there's some connection.

That's where they were. So he's one of the headline speakers of this expo. The other speakers. And I'm still just emceeing at Zany. I'm telling you, this is terrible. Bullshit. Yeah. The other speakers.

It's not a meritocracy, dad. The other speakers are G Edward Griffin, who's the guy who wrote The Beast from Jekyll Island, which is about the creation of the Federal Reserve. Right. Bunch of nonsense. Lord Moncton, one of Alex Jones' buddies. He's the man. The climate change denier who was paid by ExxonMobil and got thrown out of the U.N.

No, not important. Larry Pratt. He's the guy who runs Gun Owners for America and he is constantly on Alex Jones' show. If you don't know, Gun Owners for America is the more extreme version of the NRA. Great. Jesse Lee Peterson, who's a guy who I recommend, no one Google. All right. He is a guy who is, he's a preacher, maybe former preacher.

That's not good. Nope. Don't like it. He's also a conservative radio host. Really don't like that. But he's someone who we will never talk about probably on this show because I worry that he suffers from cognition issues. I've listened to a couple of interviews that he's done. And he's got some Alzheimer's?

I don't know if it's Alzheimer's, but there's something that's not firing in his head. There's an inability to, and not, I don't know how to describe it, but watching him interview, I watched an interview he did with David Pakman, the progressive YouTube talk show host. Okay. And watching the way his brain worked and the responses, it was terrifying. Okay. I hated him, but I also was like, you should, you should be in a home. Oh no.

It was like one of those things. Like I don't, I don't know how you dress yourself. Oh boy. That kind of thing. I feel like there might be, might be Alzheimer's. You don't think it's an act? No, no. No, it's definitely not.

It's for real genuine. It made me terrified. Oh, okay. It may, it made me shudder. Anyway, he's going to be at the red pill accident. Hey. Also, Twyla Brace, who we've encountered on the show. Hey, it's somebody who's not a straight white dude.

That's nice. We got a lady. That's nice. Who works for a number of Coke funded organizations. Less nice. Less nice. We've seen her. She came up on the show in 2008.

That's right. We ran into her. LaVoy Finnecombe's wife, who's the guy who died at the Oregon standoff with the Bundy people. He's the guy who got murdered by the police. All right. When he was screaming at them, kill me. Yep. Yep.

She's still calling for a sheriff to investigate that? Not entirely. Not entirely. But she's speaking at the red pill expo. Hey. And Cynthia McKinney. Also, the event appears to be entirely sponsored by Freedom Force International, which is a group whose website does not appear to have been updated since late 2016.

All right. I like it. It's very weird. So I was looking at the news with views because I'm like, I don't know. Because it's a great fucking name. Sure. And I don't know the organization. I don't know their editorial standards or anything.

You just know they got news. They got views. I don't know what Patrick, like I can sense from Patrick Wood and like some of his writings that, oh, he's an Alex Jonesy kind of guy. Yeah. And so, but I was like, I don't know if maybe this is a legit blog and it's just something that isn't in my sphere or anything like that. Okay.

So now we're going to get Patrick Wood's views on the news. No. Because he doesn't run this. It was just published on there. There's a bunch of writers. 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,480 Okay. And one of the, so one of the articles from the last couple of days,

headline, British government jails. What? Wait, today. It's still like the last couple of days. Like 2018. Oh, it's still operating. It's still operating 10 years past. Oh yeah.

Well, I mean, it's just shitty blogs. All right. I mean, I, yeah, it's not hard, but here's one of the headlines. British government jails journalist for exposing Muslim pedophile ring. This is a story about Tommy Robinson and that headline does not at all convey what Tommy got arrested for. What did he get arrested for? He got arrested for, uh, well, a couple of months ago,

he got arrested for disturbing the peace and, uh, precipitating, like agitating and trying to start a riot outside of a courthouse where a Muslim was on trial. Great. And, uh, so he got arrested for that. And then the judge got arrested for being a weirdo in the 1700s. Agitating white shithead. Yeah.

Exactly. And I only bring the white part in because that's part of his agitation. Of course. So he got arrested for that. And then the, uh, the judge said, I'm not going to send you to jail, but you're a bad judge, but I'm going to give you a sentence. And if you get arrested again, you're going to jail for that sentence. And so he did it again.

He got arrested. Hey, good. So he got his suspended. Put him in jail. His suspended sentence got, uh, put on him. How long was he in there? I don't know. I don't care.

I don't really particularly, I have no interest in following. I just, I just feel like, I feel like there should be, look, if there's mandatory minimum sentences for, uh, crack, I feel like there should be mandatory life sentences for these assholes. Just like, just like, and not even, not even, uh, like a jail, not even like a prison that is tough, just like a, just like a, you're over there in this little, like a playground, like you go to a playground and that's where you stay forever. Couple points.

First, it's the UK. I don't know how their legal system works. Second of all, you have got to go to your show. So we got to get through some of this stuff. I'm sorry. We've been having too many dalliances. All right. I'm as guilty as you are.

I know. Uh, okay. It's just been so long since we've met. No. It's been a week. Yeah. Um, I love talking to my friends. It's fun.

Yeah. So the other, the other headline that I was attracted to, uh, from news with use is, uh, Twyla Davis. Twyla Brace. Okay. Whatever. But no, she, I don't know if she writes for them, but this headline was, you would be racist if dot, dot, dot.

All right. Now that's, that's gold right there. That's the most clickbaity thing I've ever seen. 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,000 You've got to click on it. That is the most. So this is by a guy named Frosty. Wildridge.

Nope. Nope. No. No. Refuse. Frosty. Refuse. He stays frosty throughout this.

I'll tell you that. No, no, I, I'm against all of this. So it includes such passages as this quote in the last 48 hours, the entire casting crew of ABC's hit comedy, Roseanne suffered immediate job displacement for the single tweet by the show star Roseanne Barr that made the comparison of Valerie Jarrett, a Muslim. M-O-S-L-E-M-O. Yeah, of course. Aid to former Barack Hussein Obama to a character.

Got to put the Hussein in there. And doesn't even say former president. She says former Barack Hussein Obama. This is terribly written stuff. So then that, that's one sentence and then it starts another sentence, which as you know equates to the biggest oxymoron on this planet, Muslims prove themselves to be the most racist religious economic political organization in the world. Still not an oxymoron.

When satirists compared former president George W. Bush to a monkey with a chimp that bore very similar resemblance, not a word of racism from the CNN and like-minded media outlets. Yeah. On Facebook, black women give lectures on whites. White. I've not put that way. You added that. Come on.

You can read it. Frosty. Frosty. I read it too. Yeah. When you said whites, I was like, you nailed it. But I'm still, I've still got to point it out. It's somehow on the page.

So black women- It's H-W-H-I-T-E. On Facebook, black women give lectures on whites being racist because of the color of their white skin. Is white a color? It's the absence of color? Double Iran. No, that's black.

I always got that confused myself. White is the combination of all colors. Black is the absence of colors. I could have swore it's the opposite. It seems like it should be, but it's not. It should be the opposite. All right, all right. Double ironically, black rappers use the-

Double ironically? Black rappers use the N-word in their songs with such a vulgarity as to think they hate themselves, distrust themselves, and totally negate themselves as human beings. Never a word from the mainstream media. Exclamation point. You only get one exclamation point. He uses a bunch. All right, then he's discounted as a writer.

You are a racist in America if you don't support Ms. Black America, which is racist in itself. The same holds true for black entertainment television that features only black actors exclamation point. You would be racist if you don't support the United Negro College Fund, which again supports all black colleges, which again is racist in itself. The NAACP represents only black people, which makes it racist. More than 50 all black organizations operate with blacks only. Never a word from the racist, or from the mainstream media exclamation point.

You would be racist if you don't support the TV sitcom Black-ish. Now you would be a racist. You would be racist if you don't support the sitcom Black-ish, which produces and features only black people. Ironically, if whites choose to have Ms. White America, the mainstream media would attack. Same with all white National Basketball League, or White-ish, or white entertainment television, or all white college fund, or all white colleges. In fact, whites could form exactly the white version of every black organization in America,

and those whites would become racist. Editorial note, that was called the past. All of the things he just described. Yeah, it's almost as if, look, if you had a sport that wouldn't allow black people in it, and was existing for like 70 years, like let's say there were nine people on the field. One of them throws a ball and the other one tries to hit it. Like no big deal. And you wouldn't allow black players to do it, and you had an all black league.

Those, it was the black league that was racist. That's who was really causing it. Old satchel page. He was just a racist. Totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, it was his fault.

But like the idea of all white scholarships, all white colleges, all white sports leagues, Ms. White America, all that stuff. It's like, hey bro, what are you doing? Yeah. What is this article, really? I don't know. So then hold on. This is where, the end of this, this dismount is breathtaking.

Okay. It's so shocking. Let's hear it. Look at the racism of Muslims in America. All right. It's horrible, dirty, barbaric, and growing. We see Muslims pushing for Sharia law, which presents the most racist organization in the world.

Muslim conquest in America will dwarf all racism charges to a fraction of our current problems. Not a word from mainstream media exclamation points. In the end, races don't naturally get along with one another. What? Whoa. Whoa. Damn.

Holy shit. He just nailed it. Frosty. What the fuck? Frosty. What do you say? In the end, America should be for whites and Africa should be for blacks. That's fine.

That is, no, that's not even, that's not even the end. That's not the end? No. All right. In the end, races don't naturally get along with one another. People prefer to be among their own. I don't see it changing. On a personal level, all I can do is respect all races, colors, and ethnic groups.

Whoa, all right, all right, all right, all right. Every person does the best he or she can to make it down the road of life. Sure, sure, sure. All right. Frosty, you nailed it. So that's crazy and very racist. That's the publication. That's news with views.

Those are the kind of views on the news. Yeah, I got you. I got you. All right. Alex is just reading from that blog. Great, great. If they'll publish that, it seriously calls into question like what else, you know, what else are they publishing?

What are their standards? Yeah. Anyway, that guy just did a white America for whites, black Africa for blacks. Totally. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. That's what's underneath it the whole time. And especially the mausoleums. Oh, yeah.

Get them the vote. And my biggest issue with him as a representative of the white race, apparently, figure out what the fucking oxymoron is, figure out what irony is, and then figure out what you're fucking talking about because you're goddamn stupid. Oh, if that was embedded satire. That's true. But that is true. It's not.

It's so poorly written. Anyway, at this point, Alex Jones gets a caller on the show on this February second episode. Caller asks him a troubling question. And third question. Oh, real quick. The first two questions. The fact that there were two questions is the troubling part. They're not important.

They're like, basically, why would anyone deflate currency? Sure, sure, sure. Has to do with the people who are responsible for what we're in. When considering the history of Bolshevism and the Communist Manifesto, when considering the protocols of the elders of Zion, when considering her Harold Rosenthal's interview and many other documents, what do you think the relationship between Zionism and the world and the New World Order is? Do you think Zionism is a genuine racist movement?

And really, that's about all I have. OK, that's three huge questions. So he goes on to answer the questions, the first two questions, and he sort of fumbles around a little bit to get to the third question, and here's his answer. And on the subject of Zionism, we have guests on here to talk about what Zionism is. Zionism isn't a criticism of Jews themselves. Zionism is a political ideology very similar to what Hitler said, or the white supremacists say, or what the black Israel movement says.

I mean, every group, Japan has a group that says that the master race and everybody else has come. And it says that everybody else are basically animals who can be killed and destroyed, it will. And it's a horrible political system, certainly for the Palestinians and around Israel. And so I am in opposition to that apartheid type system. I think it's very hypocritical that Israel can do things that's way worse than what South Africa did, and it's OK with the media, but then what South Africa did was bad. No, it's both equally bad. Who is this? Jordan hosting info wars?

Straight up, Alex Jones just called Israel's system an apartheid system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something that very clearly, I mean. Yeah, because that's what it is. Weird, so weird. Weird. And they just snipered a medic. They just deliberately, deliberately murdered somebody who devoted her life to doing good.

Guys, Israel is great. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's, I mean, we've already encountered this in terms of like this being something that's different about him in the past and in the present, but it's this crazy. It's good to like just remind. I've I've come to a point where I believe earlier in the episode, I told you that there are less and less questions about Alex. Yeah.

Now, a lot of answers. Yeah. And one of them, one of the. Or at least more like a lot of signs pointing directly to Bugs Bunny's rabbit hole. Right, right. For, yeah. This is what's up. Yeah.

And one of them is here in this, in this next clip. This is one of the clips that I would say in 2009 has been a really shocking, like a surprising clue for me that Alex would be this overt about things. This, this was a pretty, pretty sizable, like, look here, look here. That's why I'm saying we need local currencies competing with regional currencies, competing with national currencies, competing with international currencies. That way elites can't corner the market. It's a separation of powers within the entire monetary scheme.

It is a liberalization of the symbols of credit. That's really dumb. Wow. That's like, I understand where that thought comes from in terms of like, hey, if there was only one currency in the world, if someone could control that currency, they would control all sales. They would control the world. Yeah.

And then if you take that on a smaller level, it's like if there's one currency in our country, and someone could control that currency. Then they control the country. Exactly. You have that sort of mentality and I understand where that comes from. But, boy, we've done this experiment. Like, we have. How did it go?

It didn't go great. It didn't? No. How did Jackson feel about it though? I don't, I don't remember exactly how he felt about it. He was a big fan. But we, we had, like, we had competing. I was talking about Michael Jackson.

Oh, yeah. He was bad. That guy, he was a, he was a thriller. The thing is, like, in the, like, early 1900s, we had, like, in late 1800s, we had states that just had their own currencies and stuff. Like, there was no rules against that. Banks would put out their own currency. Right.

We had tons and tons of currencies. And one of the issues that you run into that with is interstate acceptance of other currencies. Here's how stupid this is. Do you have Illinois bucks? Do they work in Missouri? Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no. This is the concept of Disney bucks competing with Six Flags bucks.

Yes. It's stupid. Or Disney bucks competing with dollars. Yeah, exactly. It's fucking stupid. Well, because Disney bucks and dollars both work in Disney, but Disney bucks don't work outside of Disney. Unless we allow for the free and fair competition between currencies that we've all desired. Right.

And the only way for all of that to really ever happen in any meaningful way, first of all, you need coordination between all of these people who put out these various currencies. And they'd all need to be tied to a commodity or something. Gold standard. Well, basically, it wouldn't have to be gold. It could be silver or copper or whatever. You might as well make the, you might as well make coins from Egypt and like, yeah, it's stupid.

Beef coins. Yeah, beef coins. I would, I would eat a beef coin. Uh, how much is one beef coin? 75 cents. 75 cents? Yeah. The, see, I don't believe that because that's a nationalized currency.

So I've been doing, like, I've been doing a ton of research into the Nundare College conspiracy stuff. And a lot of it has to do with the beginning of the Federal Reserve. And a lot of it has to do about jacking off to the gold standard. Right. We'll have you, a lot of it. And so I've been reading like hundreds of pages of the congressional record from 1920s. Like, I've been, I've been looking into this stuff to figure out exactly like, what was going on? What are they lying about?

Where are the specific lies? And when I hear Alex Jones come on the show and say, we need local currencies, we need state currencies, we need like, it's to me, it's like, you didn't, you, you don't know why we have a Federal Reserve. You don't, you don't understand why we have a national currency. You don't understand why the gold standard was abandoned to begin with. Like it's because all that stuff created so many problems. And those problems have largely gone away since then. Well, it's one of those, it's one of those things outside of like legitimately outside of the Great Depression.

We have not had an instance of a severe bank run since the Federal Reserve was founded. We would have, we would have in 2008 if the stimulus package wasn't right. We would have been fucked. But again, the Federal Reserve came about in like what, 1914? And that's the 2008, the Great Depression. And I can't remember what the third one was. There were three instances of collapse, like close to collapse since then. Like before that, in the 15 years prior to, or the 25 years or so prior to the foundation

of the Federal Reserve, it three giant panics. Like it happened all the time back then. So like this, this whole shit is nonsense. And the fact that Alex is espousing that means like, I don't think you've thought about this, Alex. I think what you want is secession. But that's the thing about conservatives in general is they don't want a real, they don't want a solution.

They want the problem to be what they think it is. They want a micro problem. Just like when my, and my dad said this, he was like, when the government doesn't have as much money, it's just like when the family doesn't have as much money, and you tighten your belt, and you cut down the deficit. And you're like, okay, I get why you think that makes sense. Conceptually, that makes sense.

Practically, in practice, that's the fucking dumbest idea that you can possibly say. That's generally how you make things worse. They just don't want a, they just don't want to accept that there are evidence-based solutions. They can't handle that. It needs to be an ideologically based solution for them. Also, it sucks when whatever you are advocating has been done before, and like, nah, it didn't work. Sorry, dude.

Oh, do you mean a million times? Over and fucking over again? But I don't know. I know what you mean. Oh, you know what? We can't have, we can't have the new deal because it'll never work, even though it kept it, yeah, it did work, but that was because of the conservatives did the-

And so has, so has getting rid of the gold standard and the federal reserve. Yeah, but we need to go back to it, because I didn't, I wasn't alive when the consequences were around. Right. So I don't have to pretend that they're real. And I believe a bunch of fucking liars who wrote weird books that seem to be working together back in the 70s. But anyway, we'll get to that later.

I don't want you to think that I just had a, I was just speaking glibly and straily when I said that I think Alex really all he wants, when he wants local currencies and he wants local state currencies and stuff like that, he doesn't, he's not saying that because he wants a unified whole with competing currencies, it's because he wants those entities to be separate from each other. He wants a session. He doesn't want the United States to exist. Right.

It's all happening. They're coming with armed force against us. Oh, I should be clear. This is the beginning of February 3rd. So now we jump to the next day. Gotcha. For your land, your property, your children, they are usurpers. They are pirates.

Tyranny is when pirates get control of government. Oh boy. They are a gang with a flag. And they have these big official sounding titles, but as the Declaration of Independence reads, when they become destructive of the aims of liberty and freedom in the people, it is the people's right. It is their duty to abolish that form of government and set up a new one. Oh, I want our old form.

These are revolutionaries. I'm a counter-revolutionary. They've come in. Actually, you're a counter-revolutionary. All of our government overthrown it. And now they're really getting ready to do a Soviet job. And I don't joke when I say this. If they win, they're going to kill 100 million of us.

They're going to kill most of us listening right now. They want to murder you and your family. Cool boy. So there's shades of present day. Alex, in terms of going out to break with a murder threat. Yeah. But he doesn't do an ad pivot beforehand. He doesn't have products yet.

That's nice. 2009, he doesn't have products. All he has is his prisonplanet.tv membership and his documentaries. He hasn't even put out the Obama deception yet. He's still editing it. So we're probably three years away from him having supplements. Damn. Yeah.

He's not... Now, the thing that that does make me think up is in a... Like with the quote from the Declaration of Independence. Uh-huh. Something that I am kind of interested in right now is, what happens after Trump is... Like, what happens after we prove that he cheated? Right?

Like, shouldn't... Like, all of his things should be invalidated, right? Like, isn't that the only thing that makes sense is, if he is impeached and gotten rid of, also we should be able to kill him for treason, right? Yeah, I think so. Like, that's the rule. Well, I mean, we don't have access to the information and the evidence.

But if... Yeah, but he committed treason. If that is the case, then that is the prescribed punishment. Right, right. So I mean, I don't... So why... I'm not saying kill him, but I'm saying... No, if he's committed treason, he gets killed.

You know, like, that's the rule. So then, shouldn't that invalidate fucking everything? It's tough to be president after you've been hung. Right. Or whatever. And your actions as president should be vacated because you cheated. You're wrong. Like, Gorsuch should be gone.

Like, that's the rule. You'd think, but I don't... But it's gonna stick around, right? There's no way to really do it beyond... You could have like a... Fucking revolution. You could have a revote or something like that on everything. Revote in Congress.

Yeah, but it's... Stuff, I mean, I don't know. Has anybody really considered what happens afterwards? That's why it's called the crisis. You know, it's a constitutional crisis for that reason. Yeah. Because all those questions will have to be answered. I mean, it's the same thing with, like, the continuity of government.

There was a point where no one knew what was gonna happen if the president died. Right. You know, that would have caused a crisis. Right. At this point, we're at that state where there is no plan for continuity of government. Yeah. Except it's not if the person dies, it's if we find... Is we find out that...

Nefarious hijacks. Isn't that bananas? It is. Isn't that the concept of us, like, trying to continue being a country after we find out that our country was stolen? Well, I think what you'll end up with is... I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea how to...

Right? I was gonna try and say something, but I have no idea. Who the fuck knows? It's bananas. Like, my suspicion is everybody's going to try and to pretend that it's like, no, this is normal. Like, we just...

We just... We just... But a lot of people are doing that. We just impeach him. We just impeach him. And then he's gone. And then Mike Pence is president. No, Pence will pardon him.

Be a lame duck until 2020. Oh, but shouldn't Pence be hung, too? I don't know. God, so many people should be hung. These aren't decisions I can make. These aren't... I don't know. I think...

I mean, my gut says yes. Right? I don't know. You know, I don't know how to do that. I don't know. I feel like it's so irresponsible for us to assume that we know the capital T truth about stuff. No, no, no. We don't.

You can look at stuff and you can see how everyone is behaving like runaway conmen. Yeah. Runaway scam artists. I mean, just the very fact that Trump's lawyers are like, don't testify because you're going to commit perjury. That's a bad song. Oh, you're going to try and fight the guy asking you a question. Yeah.

It's not good. It's not good. Trump can pardon himself is my favorite. Is my favorite legal bullshit right now. I love it. I thought that's not true. No, it's absolutely not true. But he's saying it is.

Oh, yeah, sure. He's like, I can pardon anybody, even me. That's not corruption. Who cares? Yeah. We got too much to get through. We got to shut this line of thought down. All right.

Because so I just want to bring back into sharp focus that clip. He's very clearly saying that we got to overthrow the government because they're coming after us. They're going to kill your family. Right. We have to overthrow the government because they become abusive. We have to. Now, I want to say that that clip makes it not that impressive that I've sussed out that

he's not really into the idea of the United States existing. Right. But he says something later that brings it into a little bit more focus. OK. And we'll talk about it when we get there. But for now, I found another really giant thing that's different between modern day Alex Jones in 2009. And that is his support or non support of a certain organization.

So the 68 gun control act that the NRA promoted and pushed and got passed. Oh, you didn't know that on record. Oh, you thought they were your friends. How are they going to disarm 150 million gun owners? They're going to do it by controlling the group that supposedly is there to protect you. Uh-oh. Alex hates the NRA in 2009. Alex doesn't like the NRA in 2009.

He hates the NRA. That is bananas. He's fans of Larry Pratt's group, Gun Owners for America. And I can't remember the exact name of the group. But there's a group called like Jews for the Preservation of Gun Owners. Sure. Something like that. Fine.

One of the episodes we're going to be covering on like the next episode it's in like, it's in February. He has the guy from that on and that guy is fucking nuts. Yeah. He is aggressive. What? Yeah. That guy's nuts.

Yeah. Oh man. He is, he is rude and. Total crude. Crude and oh, he's a bad dude. So, but I mean, this is, this is interesting on one level because I think this is actually one of the, one of the differences between present day and past that could be, I would be willing to be like, all right, I got you, Alex.

Yeah. You're not that big of a hypocrite for this one. Right. Because I don't think in 2009 that the NRA was as crazy as it is now. It's not. They still were a bunch of shitheads and Alex is wrong to say that they want to help take away your guns. 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:37,040 But they weren't like the Ted Nugent, Oliver North, Dana Lash.

Boy, still hard to believe that Oliver North is allowed to live. Like that. It wasn't that wing of crazy gunship. Right. You know, like it wasn't, it wasn't like these people probably want to shoot me. Yeah. Oh, they totally do. Yeah.

And so there's a chance that Alex could like without giving up his principles be against them back then and before them now. I kind of could, I could accept that, but it also tracks with all the different changes. Right. Like all the other stuff that we have up on the board. Right. It also tracks with like what are the policies that the Koch brothers would probably ask him to switch if he was to take their money.

It's, they support the NRA. Like this Alex Jones has a paranoia towards almost any organization. He still loves guns. Don't get that. No, no, no. Of course he still loves guns, but it's the organization. Yes. It's a, he just has a blanket paranoia right now.

Anything that, like it's almost, it's almost a thought that tracks that anything that has as much power as these organizations should not exist. Like that's kind of his, his concept. Any group that could possibly sway you, could sway you towards non-liberty. Yeah. Or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not taking into account that that also includes him.

Yeah. There's a really funny point where he talks about how like more than an hour of television a day has been proven to give you Alzheimer's. That sounds right. Alex, your show is on for more than an hour a day. It's not TV. It's not TV. It is at this point.

Oh, three hours long. That's not TV. It's YouTube. Absolutely. It's YouTube. Not TV. It's prisonplanet.tv. Yeah.

Don't worry about it. So in this next clip, Alex gets, tries to get scary. Imagine these control freak nobodies who've never had a business, never done anything in their lives. They just go get a uniform. They get a little tattletail phone. A lot of them will get guns, tasers, just running around and they want your houses. They want your property. They're greedy, low down, little scumbag bastards.

They hate the middle class. They're going to turn loose the bureaucrat bloodsucker parasite class on the people. Armored trucks pulling up led by little commie brigades. Oh, that makes me sick. And folks, everything I've told you has come through so far. I mean, are you ready for the rest to come through? Or are we going to just go absolutely aping the info war and defeat these bastards? Because what they're doing is so over the top.

If we just point out what these bastards are doing, there's no way they're going to get away with it. So the only reason I kept that in is because some fun imagery. But at the same time, I think it's, I think it's demonstrating like a really, really nascent version of his ad pivots because he's getting this, getting this stuff that's really scary. And then he's like, are we going to go ape in the info war? Which is kind of a buried plug for himself, you know, in terms of this is the info war. I run the info war. Are you going to support?

Oh yeah. Yeah. So there is sort of that spiritual plug that's going on there after the scare, which is the mode now, which has been, that's how he sells his products. So I think that it's really interesting to see like, this is the kernel. This is the seed that will germinate and grow into that eventually. What's fun about that is that it has now been proven super wrong. Like if we just point it out, it'll go like, no, that's not true at all.

Betsy Devos, we just pointed out that she stopped thinking about fucking diversity or like, yeah, yeah, like she, she just stopped doing all of the things that protect minorities. Here's what you don't just stop doing it. And we pointed it out and nothing is going to happen. Here's what you don't get. You point out what the globalists are doing and they say, they scamper into the corners. Right.

You call out and point out what racist patriots are doing. And they're like, no, I'm going to do more. Yeah. Pretty much. So that's kind of how that works. Yeah. We gotta, we gotta get rid of Scott Pruitt. Like don't we, don't we have enough on Scott Pruitt now to just like,

like the very least kneecap him for the rest of his life. I agree. But we, we can't do the show like this. 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:54,160 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We can't do the show like this if your schedule is like this. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. The future will be better. This is the last time that we have Jordan has a show right after we record, but I agree. I agree. Yeah. The issue is also that none of that stuff that Alex is talking about ever ended up happening. Right. The idea of commie brigades.

No, he's always been. Fans and, and you know why it didn't happen? Info warriors pointed it out. Exactly. Pointed it out. They got ape in the info war. They went ape in the info war. So at this point, Alex gets a little visit from his buddy, Mike Rivera, who if you recall

is the guy who has that show, what really happened also on the Genesis communications network. He's also the guy just as a fun reminder who has since hated Alex Jones. He got kicked off the network. I believe in 2010 after the two of them had a bit of a fight about whether or not Alex was a shill for Israel. Right. Because Mike Rivera is very anti-Israel and believes that Alex, uh, it now works for them.

Man, I just wish your show was still around so we could tell us what really happened. Oh, it is still on. Oh, it is not on Genesis, but it's still around. It's on the internet. Well, now I don't want it. No, I don't either. So anyway, Mike Rivera shows up and again a week and a half into Obama's presidency. This is how he's doing.

I'm already calling him the token president, not because of his skin color, but because everything he does in line with his campaign promises, it's a token amount. He was going to cut defense spending. It was a token amount. He was going to end torture. He did the token measure of closing Guantanamo, but those prisoners are still other places and still being abused. All right.

I mean, you bring up some fair complaints, but you choose a different word. Yeah. If you're choosing the word token, it's because he's black. And you're doing it just to bait people. You're just trying to be antagonistic. Calm down, Mike. Anyway, at this point, the two of them are having a conversation. Guess what comes back up?

Knucklegate 2009. It was in the New York Times that Rahm Emanuel, he was cracking his knuckles in a congressional meeting with Congressional leadership with Obama there. And he said, please, Rahm, that's distracting. Please, Rahm. He's got this decorum. He is a gentleman, has a lot of dignity that he projects. And Rahm got up in Barack's ear in front of the leaders of Congress and popped his knuckles

in his ear and said, I'll do whatever I want. And then they put that in the New York Times. And you'll notice that the story has evolved a little bit. Quotations have been added. Yeah. Anyway, before he just continued to do it, right nearby, he did not stand up and then go right into the president's ear and crack his knuckles. It said, I'll do whatever I want, son of a bitch.

You president, you president. Oh, you just became president like that means anything. I'm Rahm Emanuel. I'm future terrible mayor of Chicago. I heard he was quoted in the New York Times as cracking his knuckles and saying, I'll do what I want. I'm a ballerina. I'm a pretty, pretty ballerina crack knuckle, crack knuckle.

I actually heard that he was just quoted as cracking his knuckles. I don't know, man. They wrote down asterisk crack, asterisk crack in quotation marks. He's also quoting like, I don't know if this was in the New York Times, but Alex is just going based off what Wayne Madsen told him. Yeah. Anyway, this, this gets even funnier. Man, funny debate, debatable.

He was in Giggle about it with the headline, the second most powerful man in America. I mean, he did that to let Congress know I run things. Yeah, that was definitely a very defiant thing. If I had been Barack Obama in that situation, Rahm would have been fired right there on the spot. And if Barack Obama does not move to establish or assert his control over the White House process, then he's basically, he's already crippled for the rest of his administration. For any business owner, imagine you got 10 employees around you at a conference table, one of them's popping their knuckles.

You say, please stop that. And they get up in your ear and pop it in your ear. You'd be like, you're fired. And any other president, the whole staff kisses up to him, not happening. It's in the news that Rahm bosses Barack Obama around in front of everybody. He's doing that. Let everybody know he is the president and he's not even an American. Ladies and gentlemen, he's an IDF soldier, his father, one of the founders of Masah.

We're on the march. The empire's on the run. Okay. Way to go. That was quick. That was quick. Hey, spoiler alert. His dad did not start Masah.

Not true. Not true. Not true. Also, he is an American. He was born in Chicago. He is not true. He is an American. Not true.

IDF. He did volunteer, uh, de-rusting automobiles, uh, for Israel. That fucking traitor. Right. That, oh, god damn it. He was a civilian volunteer with, uh, the Israeli government. And I mean, you know, you could say like, yeah, it's kind of weird that, uh, an American citizen volunteered for a foreign government's service.

Everybody goes to a kebut sooner or later. But also, I'm fine with that. But also it's part of his heritage, like his family is, and if you look at his dad, Benjamin, uh, Benjamin Emmanuel, I believe, uh, he changed his name. To Netanyahu. Yeah. He changed his name because his brother got killed, uh, by Arab, uh, like in a skirmish with Arabs is the way it always is described in print.

Sure. And so he, his brother's name was Emmanuel and he took on Emmanuel as his last name in honor of his brother. Oh, that's fine. So I can't remember what his original, uh, his birth last name was. I'm, I'm out. He sucks. But his dad was a pretty hyper, uh, Zionist kind of guy.

He's a really, uh, real, uh, Israel, Israeli, right, uh, kind of guy. And so the idea that Ron would go over there and volunteer, like that makes perfect sense to me. That doesn't seem that weird at all. To say that he's an IDF soldier is fucking insane. The stretch of the truth. And then to say that he's not American is crazy. He was born in fucking Chicago.

And they say, and they say Obama was born in Hawaii. His mom is an American too. And she, she was just a Jewish. And they say she was a dissent Jewish. It's crazy. So it was like that, but to, to Alex, the argument against that is like, we should abolish birthright citizenship, like that kind of a thing. Uh, well, I mean, I don't think he's willing to say that in 2009, but it might be feeling it.

He believes, but I think all of this is just, um, further proof that back then Alex hated the state of Israel. Like, and he's willing to have people on who are like scoring potshots against it. Like the only reason you would critique Ram this harshly and throw out his dad created Mossad and he's not an American. He's an IDF soldier are like, I hate the state of Israel. Like that is just, Ram is a proxy for Israel in terms of someone to punch. Or if not, if not the entirety of Israel, he is using Israel as the prop.

Yes. By which to discredit this guy, knowing full well that a lot of infill warriors are anti-Semite. It's very hard to say it's a chicken and egg thing, but I think it's one of those things. It's like, who do you hate more, the chicken or the egg? Yeah. Hate them both. So it's not quite the same as the way we understand that. Both delicious. Burn them.

I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just a caller saying that he doesn't believe that Obama can prove he's a citizen. Sounds right. The reason I'm skipping it is because this next caller is fucking amazing. Okay. He's going to introduce a character into the world of infill wars. Okay. That I'd never heard about before.

And I'm trade magnifique. Now, besides that, I have a very important question years ago in 2004. Is this Jeff Sessions? On your show, his name was retired Colonel Don D. Grand Prix. Yes. And I listened to that interview and I was highly impressed even that he had the transcript. I want to say real quick, when I was first listening to this episode, I blurt laughed when he said Don de Grand Prix.

Yeah. Like, that's the biggest fucking name I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Anyway. He was in the Grand Prix. He printed that out. And he said, wasn't he a member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at one time? He was assigned to it.

Okay. No. He said that 70% that he was in communication on a weekly basis with friends of his that worked in the Pentagon. And he said that 70, I believe it was 70% of the highest It was 1776% people were on our side. Patriots. And he believed that they were going to

have like a counter coup d'etat is how he put it. But it did look like, listen, I appreciate your call. Is that your question? Yes. I'm wondering what happened to that. And another thing is it just blows my mind that there is no, it seems to me like there is some people in the military higher ups with some integrity. No, I hear you.

Let me, let me, let me comment because we've got to get to other callers and you're a great caller, but I've got to move on here. It's a very important point. Great. I tried to get Colonel Donna Grand Prix back on. He'd had major heart problems. I don't want to get into his things he told me privately. Too many race guys.

He didn't say don't tell people, but I don't like it in people's medical problems. He was in serious medical trouble four or five years ago and couldn't come back on, uh, then I talked to his wife and I'm not even sure if he, well, we need to call and try to find out. Man, I don't even know if this dude's still alive. That's, that's his answer to this guy. Like, I don't know. I don't know where Donna Grand Prix is.

Fucking asshole with a fake name. I never knew where Donna Grand Prix is. Also this fucking guy, your accent makes me uncomfortable. I got it. I get it. So even Alex Jones is like, whoa, that's too south to south to south. Get north of the Mason Dixon line, sir. No, um, man, you are about to drop the N word, sir, and I can't have that.

Now boy, howdy whenever I, I swear to God, I can't listen to an episode from 2009 and stretch my arms without hitting a weirdo. It's like, it's just this show is lousy with weirdos. All right. 2009 like I'm sitting there listening. It's like, here's a call. It's the Donna Grand Prix isn't even a guest on the show. He just gets brought up and now I get to learn about Donna Grand Prix.

So I went and found the transcript of this. All right. Of course you did. Of course you did. I found the audio of it too, but I wasn't able to cut clips of it because you have to, it's a mess how I was able to find it. I couldn't pull it up on my phone. All right.

But Donna Grand Prix. All right. Claims throw it on me. It's spelled D-O-N-N space, D-E space. Grand Prix. G-R-A-N-D space, P-R-E. So it's not I-X at least, at least it's not, it's not that. Donna Grand Prix?

The Grand Prix. So Donna Grand Prix, he claims to have had a 72 hour non-stop symposium with military, commercial and recreational pilots right after 9-11. Not even Dave Chappelle could do that long. 72 hours. Couldn't do it. Non-stop. Non-stop.

Symposium. Uh-uh. Just hanging out. Can't stop, won't stop. Three days. No sleeping. Just a bunch of pilots doing coke, screaming at each other. Yep.

And they unanimously agreed that the planes on 9-11 were not controlled by human pilots and had to have been remote controlled. They wrote up a 24 page report. Uh, these pilots are anonymous and will never be, their identities ever be, uh, being known. But John, Don de Grand Prix wrote up a 24 page report and he sent it to the government. Don de Grand Prix attests that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, whose name he had a very difficult time coming up with and may not have, uh, sent out 500 copies of it. I believe it was actually Ron de Grand Prix.

I believe it was General Shelton at the time, but, uh, he can't come up with the name at all. It's, it's pretty funny, uh, in hindsight, because none of these assholes who claim to be involved like Zach can't come up with a name. Yeah, yeah. Isn't it, uh, isn't it Dave? It's not Dave. All these weird, mysterious, deep military sources you have don't know who's in charge of shit.

Just seems to be a problem. Do you know why? Because they're not really in charge of shit. They know the names of the people who are really in charge of shit. So Don de Grand Prix set up 500 copies. Could you say his name like 300 more times? I am going to have to. I believe you.

So he sent it to Joint Chiefs, the staff who sent out 500 copies of it to everyone, so everyone in the government, uh, at the time had to have been aware of it. Alex asks how he knew that these copies got out in the original interview from 2004. Quote, I got a telephone call and I think the date was the 5th of March, 2002, stating at the time, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment, but he used the Marine Corps lingo semper fi, semper fidelity, always faithful. And so that to him, to Don de Grand Prix, tells you indication that like, ah, in code, I know that I got your message.

Right. All right. Well, that's because his name, though, was Steve Indy 500. Right. General Shelton has since gone on the record. Quote, General Shelton, who is now retired, also refutes Grand Prix's claim. Quote, I don't know this individual. Shelton tells popular mechanics.

Quote, the name doesn't ring a bell and I certainly never saw a report. He rendered alleging there was some type of conspiracy or that the national guard pilots shot down flight 93. Oh, that's another piece of his. That's another piece of the national guard shot down flight 93. Yep. And he claims to know who they are and they're part of the, uh, the North Dakota Airborne. All right.

We'll get to that in a moment. Uh, oh, with, uh, Lenny to Kentucky Derby. Interestingly, his symposium, the 72 hours symposium and the report that came out of it have only ever been reported by info wars and an unnamed newspaper in Portugal. All right. An unnamed newspaper in Portugal. They referenced it a bunch news with views. Didn't even tackle this job.

They referenced it a bunch in the interview interview on info wars that Alex did, but they never give the name of the newspaper. They just call it the news in Portugal. I'm like, I'm just can't work. The news in Portugal. I can't work with this. All right. Um, so this, uh, also come on, Portugal.

What the fuck's happening? So listen to this exchange that the two of them had, uh, in that 2004 interview and see if you can get shades of, uh, the future. Okay. Uh, in terms of Alex's narratives. So this is Grand Prix. He says, you see, as I outline in book one, he wrote a three part book, which we'll get to in a second.

As I outline in book one and carry that on, I call it the fellowship of the rings. I carry that on in book two, as well as in book three, right? We were on the verge of a military coup d'etat two towers in return of the king, respectively. And this was long in the planning. And even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical that we're close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th.

Only it was at administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat. Or Alex would call now a soft coup. The story of which was, uh, called the Silmarillion. Alex's response or a reverse coup d'etat. Grand Prix. Yes. In fact, Alex, a counter-revolutionary junta. A counter-counter-revolutionary junta.

You're getting, you're picking up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This sort of mentality of a counter coup has been a piece of Alex's like his world view for 14 years. This is an interview from 2004 where he's pitching that narrative as being like, oh,

there, there are good people in the military who are fighting against the coup that was launched on the morning of September 11th by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, all these guys. There are people on the inside who are fighting. He's been doing this over and over and over again. Yeah. I just, I, I don't think anyone realized this. I don't see this ever talked about like in terms of Alex Jones' reportage being like, oh yeah, this counter coup shit.

He's just been failing to make that argument for like the life of a, like a junior in high school, you know, like that entire time. He watched Gundam Wing and was like, oh, that's, that's the life. That's the reality right there. Oh, so also the fun part about this weird poll, Gundam Wing. All right. The, the fun part about this interview is that Don DeGronpre's solution is a goddamn military insurrection.

That'll do it. Here's Alex quote. I mean, it's ongoing. They're federalizing everything. They're militarizing everything. They're engaging in the classic takeover. Are they not DeGronpre? Yes, they are.

And from this, Alex, and I bring this out very clearly in book three. The only way we can stop it is with the classic counter coup data where the military steps. A classic counter coup data. Classic. The, the, the classic coup data, coup data, boy. We bring the military in and under the aegis of the military itself, disengaging and disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and give, taking over and rerunning or reorganizing the federal government. I like that he can use the word aegis correctly.

That's nice. Also point me to a classic counter coup, Dan. I think it probably, I think it only exists in propaganda. I don't want the new coke counter a coup. That's some bullshit right there. Bring me back to classic coca-cola. I think it only exists in propaganda because it's always a narrative that's used to justify fucked up actions by being like, we were just fighting against something more fucked up.

It's the, it's the Iraq war preemptive strike. Right. That's what it is. Also in this interview, Don DeGronpre accuses Israel of using miniature nuclear weapons in 1991 against a Baghdad. Like really tiny ones. Don DeGronpre makes a wild claim quote, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff himself. Can you please just call him DDGP?

Yeah. Okay. DDGP makes this claim quote, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff himself has agreed there were no hijackers on 9 11. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew were unconscious within eight to 18 minutes after takeoff and you can take it from there. Eight to 18 minutes.

That's a weirdly specific and yet at the same time, stupid time frame. Yeah. Also, he gives out his phone number 10 to 20. He gives out his phone number, which we would call right now, except he's dead. So God damn it. Yeah, I know. But he does. It's another Larry Nichols moment.

It's like, why are you giving out your phone number on the air? Alex. What is his phone number? FIBO. I don't know. Cause someone might have it now. Someone moves. Oh, that's true.

So yeah. I don't want to get it. I still kind of want to call it. Yeah, I do too. We can. Alex reveals his amazing lack of concern for details and confirmation in the interview when he says this quote, we're about to go back to the colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that had been moved to Langley, Virginia a few months

before 9 11 and then went in there and shot down that flight 93 over Pennsylvania. He says he's talked to the pilot. His info checks out. Checks out how I love the, the tossed off. Oh, it checks out. I've thoroughly vetted it. In one of his books, Don DeGrompey reveals that the pilot he knows who shot down United 93 was a guy named Major Rick Gibney.

However, the air national guard has pointed out that Gibney is a lieutenant colonel, not a major. So that doesn't work. And they can confirm he was nowhere near United 93 on 9 11. Quote, he took off from Fargo, North Dakota and flew to Bozeman, Montana to pick up Ed Jacoby, Jr., the director of the New York state emergency management office. Gibney then flew Jacoby from Montana to Albany, New York. So Jacoby could coordinate 17,000 rescue workers engaged in the state's response to 9 11. Jacoby confirms the day's events.

Quote, I was in big sky for an emergency managers meeting. Someone called to say that at F 16 was landing in Bozeman. From there, we flew to Albany. Jacoby is outraged by the claim that Gibney shot down flight 93. Quote, I summarily dismissed that because Lieutenant Colonel Gibney was with me at the time. It disgusts me to see this because the public is being misled. More than anything else, it disgusts me because it brings up fears. It brings up hopes.

It brings up all sorts of feelings, not only to the victim's families, but to all the individuals throughout the country and the world for that matter. I get angry at the misinformation out there. So it seems like he was probably lying about that. A little bit, uh, because there's also electronic records of where these planes were, where Gibney was. Also, there's some problems when you look into Colonel John DeGronpreet. The first of them is that he's always referenced as a colonel,

but there's no consistency in terms of what he claims to be a colonel of. The bio that Alex reads on his show says that he's a retired army colonel, but Gronpreet refers to himself as both an air force and marine colonel and various blurbs he's posted about himself online at various different times. Yeah, those two things, they notoriously are interchangeable. Also the three. Don't you know how the Marines in the air force fucking love each other? Also the three books that he's written do not refer to him as a colonel.

They just say Don DeGronpreet on the cover. DDGP. Also in his bio on Amazon, it doesn't say that he's a colonel at all. His meant, his rank has never mentioned, probably because if he did put that into print, uh, in official places. Somebody might. Could be Stolen Valor. He could get sued for that.

Yeah. Uh, the second problem is that in his book, Barbarians Inside the Gates, he asserts that the Holocaust was a hoax and was planned in 1919 in order to create the state of Israel. Pretty much all of his arguments and writings of history, uh, go back to an argument that the Jews did it. Uh, yeah. He's a big old anti-Semitic dispenser.

Yep. Basically. Yep. But, uh, but man, it's fun that his name is Don DeGronpreet. It's too good. It's real fun. It's too good. So he's a big old liar and a lot of the, uh, a lot of the information

that Alex Jones has about 9 11, some of it definitely comes from him. And, uh, he is just a fucking creepy anti-Semitic weirdo. Anyway, uh, in this next clip, Alex gets back to secession. There is real discussion out there about secession. We have an independent movement here in Hawaii, um, which is founded on the fact that Hawaii statehood is not legal to begin with. And so I would think that as we saw with the fall of Rome, as the central government bankrupts itself,

the outlying provinces or in this case states start to break away and assert their independence. And I think ultimately that's what we're going to see happen. That's Mike Rivera. I want to be clear. I'm for the union, but it isn't a union. We have to break apart first to come back together. Got to go in and come back.

So choose because the globalist, as they did in China 150 years ago, the same system here, starting with phony drugs, they, you know, shipped in to then break down the society. That's mainline history. They weren't phony. They're going to break. That's why they were globalism is they merge larger units in the continental unions to then break up and destroy the sovereignty

of the original units into smaller parts through Balkanization. So we've got to break apart ourselves if we're ever going to reconstitute the Republic. And I can't see why you couldn't break away. So this I think is what Alex's like real mentality is, is the breakup. Colonialism is good, but it's also fake. Break up the United States is what he really wants. And then he is like, well, maybe we'll come back together in a non-globalist government, but that's foolish.

Well, that was actually, that's actually kind of the thing that I was talking to you about a while back, like every 10 years we should have a re-up vote where it's like every state is like, do you want to stay in the United States or no? It's different. I mean, yeah, it's different, but it's, there's, there's a certain part of that where it's like the reason that he thinks we're going to come back together is because he doesn't know. Of course not.

He doesn't think that. But what he's selling you on is the idea that we will right out of choice. Right. And it's a big difference between us hanging together now as almost like tradition. Yeah. Is that if we break up, everybody's going to be like, oh, well, I guess America was good. But Alex isn't fucking stupid. He understands that if the union breaks up,

don't you say that? Well, he is stupid, but he's not that stupid. He knows that if the union breaks up, Texas, let's say, for example, is never going to join another union that has gay rights. Texas is never going to join another union that allows women access to abortions. Texas is never going to join some place that's not basically a Christian reconstructionist government. And I'm a theocracy.

Really fine with that. I'm not. I'm not because think about all the out on Texas. Let's let them go. You're not looking at this right. So let's say that it's not even our land. Give them back to Mexico. Let's say that the entire like all the states become dissolved in terms of the federal government.

Right. Every state for themselves. Right. What you would end up with if you were trying to reconstitute a government, you would have most of that middle that doesn't vote with progressive values. Right. Let's say. Yes.

You'd end up with a giant chunk in the middle that becomes a white Christian ethno state. Yes. And then you would have the fucking Pacific Coast, which would be there as a sliver. Right. You'd have New England. Right. And that's about it. Yeah.

That's not good. But everybody lives in those places. Right. No, I mean, no, of course it's not good. Dan, come on. But you understand. It's fucking stupid. But you understand that he understands that.

Yeah. Well, you would know he doesn't understand that. Yes, he does. He does not understand that at all. He absolutely does. No, no, no. He doesn't understand that. He absolutely does.

You can't, he does not have the capability to extrapolate consequences to his bullshit. No, no, no, no. I think, I think on some. I mean, at best you, at best you're right when he knows that Texas won't come back. That he knows that a lot of the country won't come back. That he knows that he has the idea that a huge swath of the country, which it would be even weirder because Chicago would be with the coasts and then it'd be garbage everywhere else. I think he knows that Texas in particular and a lot of other states, the probably border

Texas that could create a confederacy with Texas, Florida, Oklahoma, Arizona. I think he knows that those places would have the votes needed to create a dystopic state where women and minorities have a really fucking tough time. All right. Look, here's the situation. Alex is in favor of secession. He's in favor. I believe that he understands the end game that he's advocating for.

You disagree. We can agree to disagree on that. Okay. And we'll see if we can get any clues in the near future about this. I stand firm in my position that I think he understands that should the union dissolve, some of these states, perhaps the one that he lives in, would be able to create the kind of version of the United States that could never possibly exist as long as progressive people are involved.

Right. Right. But then they would be economically destroyed. Right. And that's sort of the compromise that makes the United States work. Yeah, doesn't it? Yeah. It's kind of the big deal.

So you got your, we're recording this on Sunday. This is your last night at Zaini's. Congratulations. Making it through the month. Oh God, it's been a long one. I will give you one last gift for your term here of this month. And that will be, I'm going to go ahead and cut the all of the clips where Alex Jones breaks down a music video by three doors.

God damn it. What? What? I fucked around at the first hour and my punishment is I don't get to hear the deconstruction of a three doors down video. Yeah. God damn it, Dan. This is the worst thing that I've ever done to myself.

The song is called Citizen Soldier and it's a- Never heard it. It's thank God. It's a, well it was actually a jingoistic propaganda tool of the National Guard. Sounds right for three doors down. It does. It's a song about how people are citizens and soldiers. Alex is really mad about it.

I will say, sure, it's propaganda for sure. But at the same time, it came out in 2007 originally and then was really- At the height of three doors down is popularity. It was really- I think everybody knows that 2007 was owned by three doors down. And then re-released in 2008 at the end of 2008 and now we're in February 2009. So like, I don't know why you're so mad about this. This is old news.

It's like a year and a half old song, three or four months old in the re-release. Anyway, we'll cut all that out. Alex spends the last hour or so of his show really, really pissed off about the Superbowl commercials because the Superbowl had just happened. God damn it. And so one of the big commercials was- I love this 2009 bullshit. It's great.

So much better than reality. So one of the big commercials was Hulu had that commercial with Alec Baldwin, where they're like, Hulu is sucking people's brains out. Remember that? No. It was a big commercial. No. But I think-

Why would I remember it? Okay. There were aliens and they were sucking out your brain because you were watching too much Hulu. But it was- Sure. It was based on the idea that Alec Baldwin has a nefarious voice and then also, I believe, if I recall correctly, the aliens were the aliens from The Simpsons. And it was like, The Simpsons were on Hulu and it was like, it was sort of a tie-in.

Right. They're trying to discredit David Ike. That sounds right. Yeah. That is the underlying- Look, Alex, never make the subtext text. Come on, man. So that, I'm like, we don't need to listen to that.

That's just crazy. This we do need to listen to. Alex is super mad about a commercial for high fructose corn syrup. All right. And at the time in 2009, I remember these commercials. There were commercials that were like, hey, I heard high fructose corn syrup is like poison. And then someone would be like, it's not as bad as you think.

And that's the commercial. The commercial is, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's not like- Hey, I heard the pipeline is going to destroy the Native American's homeland. Look, it's only leaked five times. It's not that bad. It's real bad, but it's not that bad.

So what is it? The Juan Valdez? Come on, man. Get out of here. The commercial is not saying the corn syrup is good. No. It's just saying, hey. Temper it.

Hey, not going to kill you. Step it back. Step it back. You eat chips. Those are probably as bad. Calm down. It's basically calm down. So here's Alex's fucking take on the commercial.

It's some of the best analysis I've ever heard in my life. Okay. Okay. So there's add after add after add after add after add after add after add after add all over TV, the Super Bowl. That's the one I've seen on the Super Bowl. And it's the same thing. That's corn syrup.

I heard that's not good. Oh, really? You heard it's not good? What's your facts? And always, he's the guy wanting the girl. Have you seen the ad with a hold up a beer? And it's a hot chick. Real quick, I saw a couple of these.

I know for a fact that a couple of these corn syrup commercials were just women. No dudes involved at all. But be that as it may. And you're really wanting her. But the association is the Kurdish Light or the Budweiser or whatever. With the woman. Basic psychology. Basic advertising 101.

Well, here it's the good looking girl. Beautiful day. The popsicles in a sunny day. Under the shade. Perfect. Giggling background noises because it's primitive, you know, creatures. We like the sound of giggling children, happy people. And there's a sound of rustling wind.

You know, that was a target men who want to mate. And associating at the primitive level, you will get the mate. And the red lollipop symbolizes sex. The red popsicle. Red is the symbol of sex. Folks, I took advertising. This is like Warfaro. Okay.

All right. You took advertising. He took advertising. He took advertising. When? When? He took advertising. He took advertising.

When? Don't you remember when he took advertising? When? When you got sent to a farm for your last year in high school because you fought too much? He took it. Or was it at junior college before you dropped out? When did you take the advertising year? Trust me, the right popsicle is sex.

I took advertising at some warfare. That's too bad because he could have had a field day. Do you remember that commercial with Britney Spears and Bob Dole? Where the fireworks went up? Yeah, yeah. Bob Dole was looking and then Britney Spears starts dancing and then the fireworks go off and you're like, that's a man coming. I got it.

Hold on. This isn't done. He has more analysis. Okay. Okay. And they're sitting there with it. So it's a tasty looking popsicle. It symbolizes sex in the Freudian school.

They have several other schools in there. There's the giggling children, the happiness. This is a garden of Eden. And in the middle of the garden of Eden is this fruit growing, this red fruit. It is the red popsicle. And then at the electoral level, he's an idiot. He shot his mouth off, but she showed him the woman. Now for the woman, she sees this and the girls giggling up above him like the goddess.

I just covered how it affects the man. The psych warfare on his angle for the woman. She's up above him in the garden. She's happy to sound of giggling children. She has the popsicle. It's the center of everything and she shows that she's more knowledgeable and lovingly giggles at the fool. Now there's other layers to this, but I just covered it.

There are other layers. This is what they're doing everywhere. What other layers are there, Dan? I want to stress, he doesn't say. I also want to stress that's the end of the analysis popsicle. That's a two minute clip. That's a, that's a two minute clip, bro. And that's it popsicle.

That's crazy sex. Sex. Also fruit red. The woman red is slightly higher with giggles nailed it. Children running around leaves rustling. Everybody likes that psychology. Everybody likes it. Everyone.

It's the garden of Eden. Now there are a lot of other layers to that, right? You know, like the popsicle stick that's got a joke on there. Everybody likes jokes. So when you're, when you're licking the popsicle stick thinking about your own dick, then you think about jokes and jokes are funny and everybody likes those. And there are kids around. There are always kids around and Alex Jones's story.

There are always kids around. There's always a metaphor for sex and there are also always kids around. Humor. There's always kids around, Dan. Humor is sex. Yes. I took advertising. It's psych warfare.

I mean, like, look, the thing that's really fun about this is like, yes, Alex is making a decent point in that like, Kinda. Well, no, no. The beer commercial. Yes. Analogy that he's making. Yeah.

It's like, Hey, you know, they're trying to couple the idea of like, Hey, I got this cool, nice, awesome beer. It'll get me chicks. That is like a very basic piece of advertising. Beer has been doing it for a long time. Right, right. We're on like 60 years of beer selling like that. But it's like, it's like taking that like school of analysis and going the exact wrong

direction with it. Like trying to apply that to like, oh yeah, the corn syrup people are trying to make you a warning. Here's, here's what I think. I've seen these commercials. They are not at all like. If Alex Jones murdered somebody. Yeah. And they were like, we got to find out if he's fit to stand trial.

And we played that for a psychiatrist. They'd be like, I don't think so. I think his IQ is way too low. Here's what I would do. Yeah. Alex Jones is, uh, he's probably killed somebody. Yeah. I would trick him into thinking that he is innocent and he is like the fugitive.

You know, like he's looking for the one-armed man. Right. Right. And he has to then describe how the person was killed. But I don't have a lineup lineup. It'll be all humans and Mr. Peanut. That would be my test to see if this guy is crazy. Okay.

It would just be a drawing of Mr. Peanut and four humans. I guarantee he's choosing Mr. Peanut. It's what, it was probably Mr. Peanut though. I'm not going to lie to you. That's how I would prove he's crazy. 01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:29,360 I don't know why I thought of that. I don't know where that came from either, but I love it.

Anyway, so Jordan, you got to get out here. You get your show. Yep. But something that does not need to get out of here is our website. Nicely done. Thanks. Great transition. Collegehite.com.

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Beer land. 10 PM. Well, we got seats too, apparently. We do have seats now. Fuck yeah. Some seats are going to be brought. Absolutely. So it won't be standing up, watching a podcast.

And then it is actually my turn tonight. It is for cutting this episode short. Jordan, go fuck yourself. I don't think you get to do that. I think I do. I'm going to, I'm, the president can pardon himself. I was actually scrolling through the rest of this, like trying to find somebody and it's like,

we've made, we've said Don de Grand Prix too many times. Yeah. Who else are we going to say? Jimmy Carter. All right. You can tell yourself to fuck off. Yeah. Thank you.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.