Knowledge Fight - #17: February 7, 2017

Episode Date: March 1, 2017

Today, Dan tells "Replacement Jordan," comedian Justin Golak, all about what happened on the Alex Jones Show on Feb 7, 2017. Topics include: Do Globalists plan to kill us all off in our 90s? What is the gayest instrument? How much coverage of terrorism is "enough" coverage of terrorism? Is there a "Shadow Library?"

I'm a policy wonk. Hey everybody, Dan here. It's sitting in to give you a little bit of an introduction before we get into this episode. Tell you what's going on here. What's going on is Jordan is busy this week, real busy. He is way too successful at stand-up comedy and I have therapy one night this week

so we could not find a time to record. Luckily for you and for all of us, I have this episode that I'm gonna release today that I recorded a week or two back with my friend, the very funny comedian, Justin Golek and I'm excited to be able to release it for you. To give you a little bit of context, we recorded this episode a little while back

and I did not have the time to edit and release the episode and in the meantime, like right after Justin and I recorded this episode, when I was about to release it, we needed to, me and Jordan needed to get back into the studio. There were emergency episodes that had to be done and you know how it is.

There's a forward momentum and a natural narrative that's sort of taking shape with Alex Jones' life and you know, as progress marches forward, sometimes things get caught by the wayside but I'm glad we have this opportunity now to double back a little bit and listen to this because I think this episode is great and I think you're gonna really enjoy it

and Justin is hilarious and fantastic. But before I get to this episode, I have a couple things I wanted to get off my chest first. Is a very exciting announcement that I'm not going to make now. Once Jordan does get back, we have a very exciting announcement to give you and I look forward to telling you about that

and I don't know why I'm teasing it now, but who cares? Second thing, I wanted to take a moment to acknowledge that I may have been a little bit off in my interpretation of the last clip from the February 24th show. I've listened back to it a number of times, mostly out of insecurity and fear that I had misinterpreted it.

I think I might have. I think it's entirely possible that my analysis was off, literally off, but spiritually I was not wrong. What he says is still horrible. What he says is absolutely indefensible. You should never ever encourage people on Twitter to harass anybody, but especially about someone else's children.

So no matter what the context of that is, absolutely unacceptable, inexcusable behavior, but I am a big enough man to recognize and publicly admit that I might have gotten some of the particulars about what he was saying slightly off, but to my credit, he does swallow some syllables in there. So I'm on pretty solid ground, I think. Anyway, I don't feel better

now that I've got that off my chest, but oh well, who cares? I am gonna feel better here in a moment because I've got this episode to share with you. I hope you do enjoy it. Again, just thank you to everybody who's been getting on board. We really appreciate everybody listening, tweeting out.

I'm sitting here on a dark and stormy night here in Chicago and I've been waiting to do laundry all night and someone's been hogging the laundry machine. Only thing that makes me feel better about the fact that I have to go to work tomorrow in dirty clothes is the fact that I know that you guys are gonna be out there enjoying this episode and that means a lot.

So anyway, here we go. Let's get to the episode, but you know, until Jordan gets back and we meet again, I'm just a fucking policy walk, man. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I am Dan, sitting here in the studio with the replacement Jordan, a very funny comedian, Justin Golak.

Hey, how's it going, everybody? How you doing today, sir? Oh, I'm doing good. How about yourself? Excellent. Very much ready to take a journey through a day in the life of Alex Jones, where I have listened to a bunch of Infowars

and you have not listened to this particular episode. I have not. But you were telling me before we started recording, you have dabbled in the world. Oh, yeah. I've taken many trips to the battlefield of the Infowars. I think I got into him in college.

Sure. I was in college during the W years, which was a great time to be radicalized left because you're young, you have feelings, you think you can make a difference. You're definitely right. Yes, you're so right. You know everything and you're not balanced at all

by jadedness or self-consciousness of your ideas. You're young enough that Vietnam wasn't real to you. Right. It's perfect. Yeah. None of my roommates or friends really cared either way. And then I had one buddy who was very into liberal politics and he was always reading Al Franken's book.

Do you remember when Al Franken had all those books? Yeah, that one book about him running for president. Al Franken? It was called Why Not Me. Yes, that one. And then. It was really funny. Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot or whatever.

Lies and the lying liars. Yes, that one. Yeah. Yeah, so I dabbled in some of those, listened to Air America when that's the thing. Back when Marin was working with Sam Cedar. Yeah. Oh, those were the glory days.

Yeah, and then yeah, I just like, that was about where he took me. And then I always had like an appetite for like more fringy stuff. And then that was like YouTube was becoming new. And I just remember getting into like the 9-11 conspiracies. And then of course you're gonna find Alex Jones soon after that.

So you watch Loose Change and you're like, you produced this. I don't even know if I watched that one. I think I watched like two off Loose Chains, like worst Loose Chains things. And then someone was like, oh, you've seen those, you used to watch Loose Change. Yeah, you watched The Obama Deception.

The Obama Deception, so good. 9-11 Road to Tyranny. Yep. So that was Alex Jones' great documentary work. Yep, I've seen it all. So you've listened a little bit, but it's been a while? Yeah, I don't keep up with it really much anymore. I strongly recommend that you don't.

And everyone out there listening, don't. Like I think I told you the last time I really got into him big was like in a recent way. It was like yesterday I listened to his Joe Rogan experience podcast. He was on like sometime this week. That's kind of like required listening. Yeah, I was listening to Joe Rogan's podcast anyways.

And like I have that history with Alex Jones. I'm like, this will at least be a fun listen. Yeah, I go guest by guest with Rogan. But yeah, if you see Alex Jones is on Rogan, you gotta listen. Gotta. We did a huge breakdown of that about how much of a drunk idiot Alex was on that show.

He got so hot. Did you watch the video? I did. Like he's just, he kept being like, can I take these headphones off? And he's like slicking his hair back. He's so hot. Well, one of the things you don't know

is actually Alex, no matter what the temperature is in the studio has a crazy ear tick. He pulls his ear in a really weird way compulsively. So a lot of the headphones stuff I think was actually his ear itching. Okay. I've done some research into what causes ear itching. And?

Nothing definitive yet. I was gonna say it doesn't sound like a symptom of anything. It has to be. It's gotta be all psychological. It's a side effect of taking too much super male vitality. His signature product that we are almost certain is a boner pill. What is this other thing?

Is it DNA force? Well, what's the metal? Isn't there some metal? He takes like colloidal iodine. Iodine. I think I was thinking iron. Yeah. Colloidal silver.

He has, we're gonna hear a couple of advertisements for his products here as we go along. Oh hell yeah. But let's just jump into it today. We're going over the events of Tuesday, February 7th on the Alex Jones program. He starts the show out with a little bit of a showing of his humanity.

Okay. There's been a death in the family. Oh no. And he takes a little moment on the show to honor that. And then quickly take it into a weird, weird place. Crashing through the lies and disinformation. It's Alex Jones. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday,

February 7th, 2017. We've got stunning information and documentation today to break down as we give you the latest analysis of the global war taking place against the huge mega corporations and their attempt to establish a out of control oppressive technocracy. Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.

Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm going to get into all the news. And I mean, all of it coming up in the next segment. But first off, I want to talk about something that affects us all. And that's life and death. A lot of people I talk to never even get to meet any of their grandparents, much less all four of them.

And my grandmother was almost 93 years old when she died this morning at about 130. And she was still cogent a few days ago when I went and visited with her. I want to pause for a second to, you know, I would never make fun of someone for giving it up for their relative. And I feel very sad for his loss.

I mean that very sincerely. I'm not making a joke of this at all. RIP, Grandma Jones. Yeah, that's very difficult. And sorry for your loss, Alex. But. But she'd had breast cancer for about six years. That's not the butt.

That was like, sounds reasonable. No, that was just bad timing on my stop and start. She had breast cancer before and they'd removed part of her breast. She got breast cancer six, seven years ago and decided to not be operated on. And that she would just go home when God was ready for. And at almost 93 years of age last night,

she went home to be with her Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. But the reason it's important is I don't really cry for the 93 year old woman who I knew my whole life and loved so much and who taught me so much. I cry for the 30 year old woman who went and got the second round of polio shots when my mother was four years old

and her brother was nine years old that paralyzed her and almost killed her and took her years to be able to walk again. And she was a beauty queen. And then I think about the SV 40 cancer viruses that were admittedly in that vaccine as well. And to think about how they soft killed my grandmother way back in the.

Yep, it's a vaccine message. I did not see that coming. You didn't see the eulogy turning into an anti-vaxxer message? No, not at all. Oh man. That's a little weird, huh? I mean, that's a fool.

I mean, if their plan is to kill everyone in their early 90s. 60 years after taking a vaccine. Yeah, go for it, globalists. I'm fine living. I'm fine dying at 93. I'm kind of more planning on 63 myself. So if I go 93, I'm fine with that.

30 bonus years from the globalists. 30 bonus years. Thanks, globalists. Again, I don't want to mock the death of Alex Jones' grandma, because again, and that's sad, the cancer is very, that sucks. But I don't know what vaccine is going to paralyze you for a couple of years and then you're fine.

And then give you cancer decades after. I don't know. I don't think that's, I think that he's, I think that he's possibly attributing coincidence or something, he's attributing nefariousness to coincidence. You know, something that just happened. Oh, I mean, like a hundred percent.

Well, it's like everyone's going to die. Sure. So you could literally just be like, you could just take someone's death, which is a guarantee to any past thing and be like, well, that's why they died. If again, if your evidence is that they're dying in their 90s, like, and then you,

yeah, the cause is just being alive then, so. I would like, I wish I'd done some research on this. I'd love to have the number in front of me of how many people live till they're 90. I'm sure it's a shockingly low percentage of the population. No, I think cause like the average is one, like 76 or 76 to 78. But then like after that average,

it's like a huge decline. Like it zips down very quickly. And then think about how many people who have been soft killed. Soft killed is like, that's genius vernacular acrobatic. He's perfect at that sort of thing. He talks about the dirty dossier thing that they put out on Trump.

Is that the P one? Yeah, yeah, the dirty dossier. He comes, they come up with these names that are so amazing, soft kill. Soft kill is just like, cause again, it's just one of those things where it's like, you know, like you could say, you'd be like, well, people are getting vaccines and not dying.

That's not what they're doing. It's a soft kill. You die in your 90s of breast cancer. You don't even know. It's like, I guess I can't disprove that. I know it's wrong. That's the thing though. Everything is undisprovable,

which is what makes it fun. When you're high and sitting around and being like, oh man, what it could be. Yeah. But do you think that he can take this, this eulogy for his grandma that turns into an anti-vaccination message? Do you think he can pull the triple Lindy

and somehow involve his products? The Oklahoma city bombing being fake. What? Yes. And near death experiences. Do you think he can work both of those in? I'm hoping that he does because I don't want to be right

because to me then it's just fancfulness. I don't want it to turn ugly into commercialism, him selling iodine. So I hope it's the thing she said. I'm excited. Let's find out. The early 1950s. So they got her way back in the early 1950s

when she was 30 years old. Everybody should really think about that and think about what vaccines are doing to people today, especially our military, that are shot up with so many experimental ones as well. And I just think about how magic it is to have all these great ancestors and to know that I'll have progeny into the future

and I'll be one of their ancestors. I just want to deliver for humanity and really build something beautiful and great. And so did my grandmother. And all four of my grandparents were great, interesting people in different ways. I really can't say who my favorite was of any of them, but it's just...

No one asked you to. That would be weird. It would be weird if you did. Especially on your political anti-globalist program, which of your grandparents was your favorite? Well, you know what? I like Nana, but I'd have to say Papa. Because he wasn't soft killed.

Great that I knew him. And I hope spiritually that I can resonate to the plane that they're going to be on with God and transcend this fallen plane we're on and be with her again. She was very, very a few days ago. She'd be conscious, talking about things, be completely there, and then just suddenly

be somewhere completely else, talking to her dead brother and talking to other members of her family. So she believed she was already in heaven. And I think about Colonel Craig Roberts, who was a Marine Corps sniper and veteran helicopter pilot, investigator, and best-selling author, sniper, one-shot, one-kill,

who exposed Oklahoma City as an inside job and so much more in the murder of police officers by the Clinton mafia to cover it up. And he died for about 10 minutes on the operating table for colon cancer. Nope. And was there at the portal with the angel? The decision was made to send him back.

They'd already walked off and he came back to life. And atheists, people that don't believe in God and people that are in other cultures, they have that same near-death or death experience. So just know this, there's a lot going on in this world, but I just want my grandmother to know that I love her and I appreciate her and I can still feel her presence now so I can feel my first grandparents that went Jerry Jones,

my dad's dad back when I was only six years old. And it's just good that I will carry them forward with me. I hope my children will carry forth my energy and my spirit with them just as they carry my genetics. And so let's just all think about our fallen grandparents. And of course, our parents and everyone we love, but you know, the most important thing to do is to reach out for the young today

that are under all the GMO and all the chemical attack and all the cultural attack and defend them because that's who really matters, is the young. So I think that would be a great opening segment if he cut out about two minutes in the middle and that last part. Yeah. If you wanted to just jump on the show

and talk about his grandma, great. But do you know, like... Can't get on board if you politicizing the death of a 93-year-old. Just can't do it. It's so much. Yeah. It's dense.

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, we can't really... I made a mistake opening the show with this. In the same way that he made a mistake opening the show with it, I did as well. Well, you can only open how he opens. We can't make fun of that really.

We can't without attacking his grandma and we'd never want to do that. So let's get to some like real politic. Okay, let's bring it on. This is... He doesn't bring up his grandma again for the rest of the show. So we're fine.

This is a little clip about some people being sneaky in government and the media trying to be full of shit. Basically, he's mad at the media through most of this episode. Makes sense. First off, there's a tactic that the mainstream media is using where they pretend that info wars is discredited and not cutting edge.

And then they connect that to Trump and pretend that he's discredited, hoping to split Trump off from his base. Now, Trump knows they're doing this, but they every day say, Alex Jones is Trump's brain. Trump gets everything from Alex Jones. No, Trump has agreed with me on a few things

that are overwhelmingly documented. Trump is his own person. I don't say that because I don't want to sit here and make the president mad. I say that because it's true. But clearly they're trying to hurt Trump by driving him away from his base. It's not working.

He's delivering in spades. But every day I see scores of these articles. Info wars is behind President Trump's idea that the media is covering up terrorist attacks, the Washington Post. Then they show headlines where myself, Paul Watson, and countless others, but they only show with screenshots.

You can't go see it for yourself. It's a screenshot. Where we go show where police chiefs, the FBI, you name it, are told to cover up the fact that Islamists are carrying out attacks. It's like San Bernardino. Now, the truth is Trump has trolled the media when he spoke at Central Command in Florida yesterday

at their headquarters, because he knows they'll bring all this out now and lose this debate. Also, I want to tell you this. You can have me pause at any point. Oh, okay. If you have any thoughts, feel free to jump in. This is insane, because, I mean,

the argument could be made that the headline Info Wars is behind the stuff he's saying. Could just mean that they kind of, that they support the same thing that Trump does. Not necessarily that Trump got it from them. The word could be interpreted either way. So that's one thing. The other is that that list of unreported terrorist attacks,

that was some shameful shit. Did you get a chance to go over that list? No. They misspelled San Bernardino. Oh, no. They misspelled the word attacker like 27 times. No. Throughout it, when they were listing the attackers.

And then a bunch of the, almost all of it was covered by the mainstream media. And the ones that are dubious, maybe undercovered, were non-fatality knife attacks in foreign countries. Yeah, those aren't gonna grab headlines. No. Who's gonna fucking read that? I don't know, man.

Yeah, that's, I don't know, man. That's weird. It's like, yeah, it's like you said, it's, I don't know. It just, I mean, he's just like the normal media in terms of like the 24 hour news cycle, right? You mean Alex? Yeah, like even if there is shady shit going on in the government, like there's not enough

for you to have hours of programming a day on it. No, that's true. So you're gonna have to be like grasping for straws. He's gotta fill four hours a day. But he hits everything with the same intensity. That's why it's like so fucking obvious when it's like, all right, my grandma died. How is this about Oklahoma City?

Because like, I get time to fill. Everything that happens has to be about something in the narrative. I honestly, this comes up, like he has so much time to fill. This comes up over and over again. But like, I honestly think that you and everybody else who has suggested that is being way too generous. I don't think he blocks out time at all.

I think the entire show is essentially a riff. Yeah, all that, that's for sure. He's got time to kill, but he doesn't have like, all right, I've gotta fill 15 minutes here. He's like, fuck, I gotta fill four hours every day. Every single day he's like, fuck. But I mean, I guess this is like the future of information and whether we turn the corner or not, right?

Cause it's like, I mean, that's his issue, right? Is it's like, if someone was genuinely like, hey, I want to give a voice to independent media, right? It's like, all right, great. But those things like hardly ever exist. Cause for them to exist, they'd have to be like, well yeah, sometimes, if not most of the time, the media is right.

What they cover is accurate. What they're covering is important, blah, blah, blah. Sure. You could argue that like, maybe they don't cover A, B and C because of like corporate interests or because of some other interests that's like, somewhere between dubious or just money related.

But it's like, that's what he positions himself as. It's like, I'm just being honest, but it's like, but you're not, your message is conspiracy. And so you have to fit everything into that box. And it's globalists. So everything has to be about globalists. And also he's not telling the truth. We've documented at least like,

totally tons of lies throughout just the 10 episodes of the show we've done so far. Well, I think like the thing I always bring up, like the one story that really like, just encapsulates it for me was from something from back in my Jones watching days. Even though I was not a regular watcher or a regular like believer, like I always was like,

okay, but still fun. So it's not like I was ever like, it's not like I escaped the church or anything. Like I always was skeptical. You didn't go native. But it was interesting. It was always interesting. And mostly like just like now is always entertaining.

But it was this story about like dump. It was basically, it's the gay shrimp story. Do you remember the gay shrimp story? This I do not remember. They were dumping chemicals into this river and it was turning the shrimp gay. And it was turning the actual shrimp. It's turning the shrimp in this river.

How would they know? Well, here's the thing is it's based off real science that pesticides run off into these streams. They have, what do you want to call it? Estrogenic qualities and they, and so much so that these small species, something like a shrimp, it can actually flip their species female.

So now all the shrimp are female so they can't reproduce so they die off. So now there's a genuine story that I remember hearing about in like biology classes in college about pesticides getting under, like unreported their damages and it's causing these problems and it could be causing to an uptick in breast cancer

in the human population. So he brings in a real kind of issue that is alarming and in undercovered, but he turns it into, it's turning the shrimp gay, of course, and they're doing this because they want it, they're experimenting to turn us gay. Yes. So then we don't reproduce and it's a form of eugenics

that the globalists are going to use to keep population down and kind of trim population to like whatever their number, what there's always that number, right? Like they want to get population down to 100,000 people. Yeah, yeah. We're all slaves, they rule over us. On Georgia guide stones.

Yeah, so that's like when it just like, why are you blowing this? First of all, you're so, that's what makes him worse to me almost. I want to get back to this thought. I don't want to interrupt you, but I have to. No, no, no, go ahead, please. He has a clip about this on today's show.

About the gay shrimp? Kind of. How do you kill fire ants? How do you kill a bee colony? But you put a pheromone into in reproduction. And so again, whether you're gay, straight, you know, into, into whatever, I don't care. Everybody knows that.

I'm not hating you for who you are. But the media calls me a homophobe and a transphobe and all that stuff because I say, what is this being force fed to five year old kids about? Well, they're not even thinking about sex. The point is, is that there's an anti-human agenda. So yeah, he, even just in passing on this show, he brings up this idea that there's something being

introduced to trying to turn us gay. Yeah, it's weird too. And like, that's the other thing that's like, not troubling, but just like a shame because like he doesn't seem hateful per se. Like, we hate globalists. Yeah, that's true. He's hateful towards them.

But I guess like, I've like, I've read articles too about like, about like the media elites pushing trans issues because they want to like, destroy gender lines again to like confuse the working class population. When you say articles. Oh, well, I mean, online periodicals. These are blogs.

Not peer reviews or Reddit posts basically. The vigilant citizen. Yeah, exactly. But my point is, they always take a whole paragraph to be like, if you are trans, that's fine. There's nothing wrong with you. I recognize that as a real like identity. I'm just saying that they're using that.

They're exploiting that real identity that deserves to be protected to like her. So like you, it's just, it's nice to see that their craziness is at least coming from a place where they seem kind, right? No, no, cause see, I think that that's even being way too generous. I didn't read these articles on the vigilant citizen

that you have, but I have. And I just, like I said, I'm not like, I'm not like taking it in as fact. I read it as entertainment, but it's, it's, anyway, sorry, go ahead though. I just wanted to stress that that's taken as implied, at least for me, but like with, with, with this clip, Alex is, and what his whole thing is, is there's this stuff

that's being introduced. It's turning people gay. It's an anti human end of the species. It's an agenda basically, but hey, I don't care if you're gay, that's totally cool. I mean, you are a victim. I mean, your, your identity is because you, you had something done to you and I, I pity you

because of your, your, your flaw, but I'm not homophobic. It's like, oh, okay. Dude, it's not, it's such a thin line. It's not even, it's a thin line. It's like, I agree. It's not good. It's just like in the world we live in, it's just like, you know, it could be worse.

You know, like that there's politicians, like, like people that make the laws that are much more openly hateful than him. So that's why it's like, when they say awful shit like that, it's nice to know that like they're better than even some of the people we've elected in terms of at least taking the time to be like, look, you're just a victim. I don't hate you.

Which is like, yes, it's like hateful in a way, but it's, it's a kinder hate. It's softer. It's a softer hate. He also says that he's not transphobic in that clip and he spent a great deal of time accusing Michelle Obama of being a transgendered person, but he doesn't use those terms.

I didn't know he was on that fucking conspiracy. I did not know that. That's bananas. Sometimes he pretends he's just joking about it. Other times he's very serious. But like, for what reason? Like what? Like again, this is part of the homosexual agenda.

But what, it'd be different if she came out as trans than it would be. It's a Psyop. They've degraded the presidency and the office of the first lady by secretly having a trans woman be in there. That's a man. That's a first man. So basically his idea is like, she doesn't have to say it.

We just, we understand it. And so the agenda gets out without it being like explicit. Eventually we'll know and then the joke's on us. We've been tricked this whole time. It's insane. And ha ha man. It is transphobic. Let's be honest.

Yeah. I mean, it's transphobic and it's homophobic. It's all that. It's just like, it's just these people, these people are so, you know, in a world of such, I don't know, anger is even maybe simplifying, but this heightened emotional state that I think would be easy for them to be outwardly hateful.

So it's nice when they always at least take a half step back, even though I think it's outwardly. Okay. That's maybe that's a fair way to do it. I maybe I'm trying to be too optimistic. I have a touch. No, I don't. I was going to say I have more respect for Michael Savage,

but I don't. Who's that? I don't know who that is. He's a, he's a even more hateful radio personality. He has a show called the savage nation. He's awful, but he is just outwardly hateful. And just, So does he, does he just hate like gays and trans?

Or does he think that they're part of an agenda? I think what he would say is they're mentally ill and or degenerate and that sort of guys. Is he, oh, is he, but at least like an older guy with like white hair? Kind of. Like a Mike Pensish looking. No, no, no, no, no, no.

He looks haggard. Yeah, maybe I'm not. Cause he looks like he spent at least a decade in a bottle. Let's get back into Alex. This clip is going to start with him touching base on his favorite super villain, George Soros. And then he has some more stuff to say about how Trump is really cool.

I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. And when you stop somebody, you can't ask what even where they're coming from or if they're a Wahhabist or look on their cell phones. I want to stop really quick. I don't think that it's true that you can't ask people where they're coming from.

I think that that's an exaggeration. Okay. But also I don't think it's as nefarious as Alex thinks when he says that people were told not to say that things are Islamic terror. I think that's probably due diligence. I think that you've got to know the facts before you make pronouncements.

That's true. First of all, and then second of all, I don't think we gain anything by attaching Islam to terrorism. But didn't they even say that explicitly? I thought they said that explicitly, like that they weren't saying Islamic anymore because they didn't want to like destroy possible allies

they could have in the Middle East by like condemning a religion. Yeah, because once they were trying to like, that was like their olive branch to that area is like, all right, if you help us, we won't say that word anymore. Well, when you start using Islamic terror as a compound word, the adjective Islamic

gets connected to the terror that is the noun. And at a certain point, it becomes like a soft kill. It becomes a term that gets stuck in your head. And yeah, it's counterproductive. If you use that term aggressively to label everything, then you're going to end up with at least the appearances of a holy war. Yeah.

You're going to end up, to people who want to see it, they're going to see like, oh, they hate Islam. Right. And that's really bad. That's very bad. The only people whose interests that serve are people who actually want a holy war. Right.

And that ain't us. No. I don't think, I don't think Alex would either, but. No, I don't think so. Do you think, does he not, does he like Islam or no? Does he ever touch on that at all? Funny you should ask. I have a clip about what he thinks about Islam.

It's just turned into comics unleashed. But like. I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. And when. Wait, wait. Okay, it's all right. I thought I had the wrong clip.

I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. And when you stop somebody, you can't ask what, even where they're coming from, or if they're a Wahhabist, or look on their cell phones. So you're coming from Yemen. You're coming from Saudi Arabia. You're coming from Sudan.

You're coming from places that are war zones, like Somalia, a totally failed state. And you can't even ask when it comes up in a data sheet that you're al-Qaeda. Are you with al-Qaeda? They can ask me if I'm part of a criminal group. They can ask me if I've got drugs. They can ask me if I've got fruits and vegetables.

But you can't ask the Islamists this. They're actually in the news saying, oh, Trump may lose his appeal now, because he mentioned Islam. Congress shall make no law respecting establishment of religion, or whatever this exercise thereof. But you can bar someone that's part of a religious group

that its tenet is to bomb and kill innocents. That's a cult. Comprende, not a violation of the First Amendment. When you've sworn allegiance to a murderous military death cult, you don't have a right to come here. So he doesn't necessarily, he's not necessarily saying those things

about Islam as a whole. Yeah. But I don't think he's doing a nearly good enough job of being specific about what he's talking about. Also, so if you're not paying attention and you're listening to that, and maybe you're dumb, that's kind of one of the messages you're gonna take away from it,

that Islam is a military death cult. I guess I just, I never really heard him talk about Jesus as much as I have in this episode, when he was talking about his grandma. Like, you see, like I knew he was Christian, but I thought he was a little more secular. But- Oh no. So- He prays on air.

I didn't know that. Like I said, I'm a little out of touch with current AG. He's gone so far off this weird deep end. Like he's super, he prays on air, he talks about Jesus all the time, but he also has this weird version of Christianity that he's into. Like the first clip he was talking about

how that guy who exposed Oklahoma City, he got up to the pearly gates and someone said, hey, let's get him back. Right. Like he has like this idea that there's like weird mystical elements to his version of Christianity. But again, it's like, I said it's like, it's like we're talking about with the gay and trans thing,

where it's like in that same clip, the old lady clip and the dying on the operating table clip. I don't know why I said old lady. I mean his grandma. She was old. She was old. So, but basically like the way he talked about like, well, other people in other cultures have the same vision.

So it must mean something. But so it made it seem like he's somewhat inclusive of other faiths or beliefs in a universal truth that can be kind of expressed or interpreted culturally in a different way. Again, I probably am. A lot of credit. I'm just, I guess, I'm not even gonna have credit.

I'm just wondering, is that what it is or is he? Cause like most people that are that Christian or any religion to be fair, don't really like other religions. Yeah. Cause there's a predisposition like I'm right, so they're wrong. It's team sports.

That's why I was wondering if he is one of those Christians or if he's more just like, I think he feels the same way about other religions that he does about the gays. And the terms of like, hey, you're wrong. It's cool. You're fine. It's cool.

Everybody be cool. It's cool. Yeah. That sort of thing. But he has underlying horribly bigoted opinions. The demonic occult leaders have gotten into Islam. It's not your fault. That you believe in this devilish, evil, violent religion.

It's not your fault. Yeah. And he has on a number of occasions said much more inflammatory things about Islam that weren't in this episode, so we won't listen to it. But he has said some, I just wondered, some kind of disparaging things about how it's, you know, religion that is one of the tenets

is killing other people. Gotcha. Like, all right, cool. Let's not wrestle with the Old Testament at all. Yeah. Let's just, you know. And the other thing, it bears repeating. And I don't think I have a clip of this, but to this day,

he still is not recognizing that the shooter in Quebec, the guy who shot up the mosque, he's not recognizing that it wasn't a Muslim who shot up that mosque. Oh, okay. He refuses to acknowledge that. It was like a blonde-haired white guy, wasn't it? I don't know if they ever arrested him.

Yeah, I lost track of that story, but that was the only suspect they had was a guy who. Wait, so did they arrest that suspect, or did they not? No, they didn't look into this. I thought they arrested that guy. I did. You know what?

It's so funny what you believe when your brain kind of just goes on autopilot. Cause I was like, yeah, I thought they arrested that guy, and that was definitely the guy. But then as we talked about it, I'm like, you know what? I also did tune out of that story and didn't really see how it concluded. Suspect charged with murder in Quebec's Quebec mosque

terror attack. Yeah, so he was arrested. I think that's probably why we tuned out. It's cause we heard he was arrested. It seemed like it was over, right? And it's Canada, so fuck it. The lone suspect accused of opening fire in a Quebec city mosque was formally charged

with six counts of first degree murder on Monday evening, one day after the massacre that killed six men. So it was even one day later. Yeah, that was pretty quick. The suspect was identified as 27 year old Alexandra Bissonnette, a student at nearby Laval University. Bissonnette was also charged

with five counts of attempted murder. Yep. So yeah. I think I probably did it. Yeah, he looks good for it. But they hardly pick up the wrong guy for those things. It seems like, I don't know, Alex would tell you that they got the wrong guy all the time.

Right. Patsy's. Well, why does he think that a Muslim did it? Or does he think it's a full on false flag? Well, that day on the show, he and his guest were talking about how it was a failed false flag. Oh. It was a false flag that went wrong.

Oh, okay. Because whenever you have shooters like this, usually they kill themselves. Yeah. And the fact that he didn't kill himself meant it went wrong. So he chickened out. Something like that. I don't know.

You know, I was telling you earlier that I'm getting into their headspace. Yeah. I'm not that deep yet. Good. That's good though. Because you were worried about it. So it's good to know.

Yeah. It's good. My interrogation has made you feel better about yourself. Yeah. All right. And we got to get back. Yes, let's go. This is some more shit about the media

and has to do with old press secretary Spicer. Okay. And Alex telling a story that is not true. So info wars is my President Trump's idea that the media is covering up terrorist attacks. That was on CNN last night. This morning it's everywhere. And sure, it gives us a little bit of traffic

but they have dwindling audiences of idiots. This is mainly a Psyop. So that Spicer and people read this and go, look, Mr. President, more about how Alex Jones is your boss. Don't listen to him. Go with the mainline Republicans. Listen to previous.

That's, that's, that goes on by the way behind the scenes. Word for word. That does not go on behind the scenes. Or at least I prayed a God that doesn't go behind the scenes. You know what? I think that might go on behind the scenes to be perfectly honest with you. Yeah, I'm going to have to back Alex on this one

with this current administration. I have no doubt that that's a very high possibility that that happens. Sean Spicer straight up coming out and being like, Oh, Mr. Trump, don't believe Alex. And him going like, I don't know, seems right. Check's out. Check's out.

Ah, he is a Psyop. He's got this whole thing going on where he believes that there's a split in the Trump camp between the Trump loyalists, which are Bannon, General Flynn and Trump basically. And then you got Sean Spicer. You got Kellyanne Conway. And you got Reince Priebus who are like,

they're just fucking coming along for the ride, but they're establishment Republicans, which is fucked up because you already have enemy friends. It's amazing that this narrative has come about this quickly. It's so fast. Dude, like something like a Trump presidency

is just so interesting. Like there's no better time to listen to Alex Jones than now. Oh yeah. Because the world is turning almost Alex Jonesy in, sure, in reality. And then he ups it with his, then he always takes it to the next level. But usually we're out the ground floor

when he takes it to the next level. Now we're a few levels up and he's next level on it. It's like, it's a really great slash worst time to be alive. There's gotta be moments, like quiet moments for him where he's like, I don't know how I'm gonna do this. I don't know how I'm gonna up the ante. I don't know. He's gonna just start reporting the news.

He can't. He doesn't know how. I've listened to Info Wars legitimately every day for the last two months, at least. It hurts. But like I have never once heard them do a piece of legitimate journalism. They have never made a call to anybody.

They've never checked a fact. Documents. Yeah, they've got white papers. Okay, all right. They have all these documents that they cite and then you go read them and they don't say what they said they said. So it's like, okay, you're not reading the things

that you're saying you're reading. You all you have is fake sources. It's all you got. That's all they have. It's insane to me. So the premise that you had of him having to, I know it was a joke, but the only way he can be crazier

is just report the news straight. He doesn't have the chops. Yeah, I mean, that's fair. He's an interesting dude, man. I don't know. I just, so did you guys already say, did you talk about on the podcast about the Joe Rogan interview you said?

We did. We talked about it for three and a half hours. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, I mean, you'd have to. It was like a four hour fucking interview. Yeah, yeah. And I fact checked a number of the things that he talked about that were just complete bullshit.

But that's what's interesting, right? Cause it's like the first hour he's talking about how like Trump's not a globalist. That's why I support him, but I'm not saying he's perfect. The first whole hour was about pizza gate. That too. But I guess like he said some,

I don't want to say reasonable things. He said some things in a reasonable tone that weren't the most awful things I've ever heard. That was in the first hour. Yeah. But then he started drinking. I can't blame it on the drinking because I've heard him doing that on his show

unless he's a chronic alcoholic. That's a possible theory. I'm starting that theory. It's very possible. I would buy into that theory because it's like, by the end of the podcast, he's talking about like vampires sucking the lifeblood out of these children.

12 dimensional beings. Yeah. Interdimensional beings. And I'm just like what? He's wasted. How do you have even the capacity to sound reasonable? Even for a second. If you also have those views.

No, absolutely. Well, but the thing is he masks those beliefs really well generally, but clearly that's underlying a lot of his beliefs. All that stuff about psychic vampires and extra dimensional beings and how that's what the Illuminati believes. And there's these second dimensional beings

that want to get up into the third dimension. Basically that's his demon narrative that he has. He literally believes that stuff. It's fucked up. Can you believe that and also believe in Jesus though? Cause none of that's in the Bible. Well, that's what I was talking about earlier. His version of Christianity is really weird.

We're getting to like overtime, we'll figure it out. We'll get a better assessment of like what his Christianity really is. Cause it's not really Gnosticism either. It's something though. And we can't quite get our finger on it, but we're getting little pieces every week or so. Trying to piece it together.

I don't know. I guess like that's the last thing I'll say is like, I guess that's the thing I'll be the last thing. No, I just mean we can move on and stuff. I don't want to keep like hijacking things, but like just the idea of like, that's to me what's always, what I've always wrestled with with, with Alex Jones.

Cause he's, he's never been someone I ever thought could ever be something important to me in terms of an information source. But I am always like, I can't pretend that I'm not attracted to things outside the mainstream as, as, as a, as a, you know, to kind of bolster what I get from the mainstream. And I like a good fucking psycho, but I like my psycho on like a two or below.

Yeah. And he, and it's so if one is like a, like kind of psycho and 10s like interdimensional beings, like it's just weird that he can act one to 10 and all the numbers in between. So it's just, it's, it's, it's just, it's just with frustrating when I see him do some ones and twos and I'm like, this is a psycho I can get behind.

And then literally like an hour later, he's on full 10. Well, it's because it's like just staying the ones and twos baby. It's because he's, he's a 10 who who's just like trying his best to be a one, but it doesn't have it in him. Well, he's a really good showman. Yeah. And he's a con artist.

So he pretends to be a two that is a, you know, you're able to get people to sort of think you're not as crazy as you are. Then you go on Rogan, you get high and drunk and the 10 comes out. That's basically how I would look at it. That's a very cynical view, but I think it's probably a hundred percent correct.

And even like seven on that scale bleeds through on his own show when he starts screaming a whole bunch, I'm going to play this next clip and it's probably about four minutes long or so. It's what I would describe as him attempting to do some media criticism about CNN. And in the middle of it, I think he accidentally leaks, not leaks, but he lets slip,

something that I don't believe is true, but if it is indicates that Trump might have committed treason. So that's fucked up. And then also it just, he gets mad at Anderson Cooper a whole bunch. Tell me if you want more deposit at any point to make a comment. Okay, okay.

And then they go, oh my gosh, info wars is insane. It says we're covering up and Trump's insane for saying it. No, Trump just trolled you. You are the ones that are now talking about, we don't cover up this, you cover up black on white crime statistics, reporters all over the country have been told. You cover up Islamic rapes and murders in Europe.

More police unions are coming out and saying, in Sweden, in Germany, they've been ordered to cover it up. And you've got the nerve to shake your finger at us and say, we're covering. Oh, kind of like we said the polls were fake and Trump was going to win, kind of like that. Kind of like I said that George Soros was directing the Democrats to send out people

to rough folks up at Trump events and then blame it on Trump. And exactly what I said came out because I have major sources in the secret service and in the Chicago PD. I mean, I don't want to tell you too much here, but let's just say we've got all the intel and we know exactly who's doing what.

My problem is I'm so busy, I can't even go through all this stuff. But let's go to this first video, Trump trolls seeing in into covering Islamic terror that they say doesn't exist. And when he says they're covering it up, they say, oh, ha, ha, ha. Of course we cover Islamic terror.

Ooh. I'm not sure what the victory is here that he's celebrating. Yeah. I legitimately have no idea. So is he saying, so he's saying that Trump said, hey, CNN, there's terror events happening that you're not covering because you're covering it up.

And then they say, no, we did cover it. And then because they're saying that they covered it, they're now covering it. But they're obviously just bringing up stuff for the past that they covered. Yeah. Alex is not good at like considering options outside of what he already believes.

Right. There's not like an alternative possibility. It's all just like this is the truth. Globalists bad, Trump good. Anyway, he's gonna play this clip and interrupt it a whole bunch. Okay. He's gonna yell, he's gonna threaten.

It's classic Alex Jones and it is, it's weird. And like I said, he has an alternative narrative of how Trump ended up running for president that I'm dubious of it. I am not, I don't think it's real. Okay. We'll see what you think. Okay.

Ha ha, got you dummy. Here it is. At least this list of terror attacks, the president said the media is downplaying or not reporting on, right? Oh, that's right, Anderson. Right here, 78 attacks since September of 2014. And the White House is careful to say

that most of these attacks were not reported on adequately enough. But Anderson, just going through the list, there's no scoring system or grade system here to say, okay, these attacks. It's come out that the FBI and others are told to stand down and not call Islamic terror. I mean, we've had authors on that worked inside

Homeland Security as senior analysts who were at the meetings where they were told seven, eight years ago, you will no longer say the word Islamic terror, it does not exist. And Anderson Cooper is CIA, the whole foundation left his arm of it. He went to Cairo and celebrated the Arab Spring that overthrew the country

and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. He might've been celebrating or he might've been a journalist. He might've been reporting. He might've, might've been. I'm not sure. Might've been. Anyway.

I mean, we're gonna go over all those names and all those documents in a moment. But Cooper and this other dingbat about to sit there and look shocked by this. Everybody knows you're con men, okay? Everybody knows you're frauds. You have a tiny audience. So get a bigger teleprompter, get a bigger studio, bro,

cause you aren't getting your job done. Yeah, the other dingbat is Jim Acosta. Here it is. We're covered adequately. These attacks were not, and most puzzling of all Anderson, inside this list, you see mentions of the Paris attacks. Where 129 people died,

the San Bernardino terrorist attack, the Nice truck attack, and so on. And as you know, Anderson, these are all terrorist attacks that we covered days on end, not only here at CNN, but other international news outlets around the world. This is perfect.

Cause the default is say Trump's a liar. So they come out and say, Trump's a liar. We cover all the 70 plus Islamic attacks. Of course we covered all these Islamic attacks. And under it, if you're a radio listener, it says breaking White House releases list of uncovered, under covered attacks. Again, White House releases list of under covered attacks.

And then they put in parentheses, we covered many. So they're admitting they didn't even cover them all. And what we're saying is they under report them. I mean, when a black guy kills a white guy, newspapers all over the country know, you don't put a picture of who did it, and you don't say who they are. And whenever they're looking for someone,

most of the time they won't even say a Hispanic male or a black male. That's just not true. Yeah, that's not true at all. That's not true to all points bulletins. Absolutely. That's a very white genocidal narrative. Yeah.

That's a talking point of white victimization that just, the facts don't bear out. Dude, all there is is pictures of black guys on the news saying this guy did bad things. I would say it's either, it's almost, it's either not true or the opposite of what is happening. Yeah, but if your audience base, as we've broken down, like it is.

No black people listen now. It's like 3% of his audience is black or something like that. It's overwhelmingly over 50 years old male and white. So you have these people who are easy to scare and maybe aren't really good at researching things on the internet. So you just tell them, yeah, of course, you know. Well, they're listening.

They think they are researching it by the internet by watching his internet show. And they trust him that he has done the research on these things and he has not. No, I mean, sure. You want to say that some things aren't covered? Can't cover everything. Like I said, if you go down this list,

I have the list of all the terror attacks here that the government put out. And there are the big ones that got obscene amounts of coverage, but some might say too much coverage. And then there are just ones where like a foreign citizen was cut by a potential Islamic person in another country. List not coming up right now. Damn it.

Anyway, it's an embarrassing list in terms of, but that's, it's supposed to be. Alex is totally right about one thing. It's trolling. Yeah. It is Trump trolling the meeting. Did they kind of fall for it even by now? I mean, that's what's kind of,

that's what's kind of tear to me. That's what's kind of terrifying about a Trump presidency, right? Sure. Is that you can't ignore it, even though that's really the best move because it's the president saying it. You can't ignore it.

Cause if you ignore it, we're going to have, everything is going to be deregulated. Everything is going to be privatized. We're going to live in a bizarre dystopia. Yeah. If you just ignore it, but then if you fight back against it, you get caught up in these weird,

labyrinthian lies. You're also covering it enough that, I mean, Alex Jones is right that they're putting it, they're putting it on their own scroll, White House releases list of uncovered, you know, terrorist attacks. So how do most people watch CNN? Like at the airport, at the doctor's office.

So you're just looking and you're like, ah, guess the media is covering up terrorist attacks. All right, gate B now. That's why they had to put in parentheses, we covered many. I know, but it's still, and not good. It's still, because to be perfectly honest, they can't say we covered all of them.

Because again, they don't need to cover a knifing in a foreign country. Right. It is just. No one died. It's not, it's, it's, if we are expected to have wall to wall coverage of every, again, it's not good that someone got stabbed

or it's not good that someone was sexually assaulted. It's not necessarily global news. Right. It's not something, if it was probably covered in that local paper or to wherever that. I would definitely assume so. I don't know how foreign media works, but I would assume so.

Anyway, this gets weirder. Just saying if it's a white male, everybody knows about this. This has been admitted. So again, Trump is a total genius, how he is annihilating our enemy that is the foreign owned, globalist corporate press. Let's go back to these two jokers.

This appears to be a talking point that is in search of a set of facts that just doesn't exist. The other thing we did not get an answer for is why the president made this claim today that the news media are not reporting on these attacks. He said, I think you know why to those military commanders today,

but no explanation was given as to why the news media. Oh, let's pause again. Let's back that up 10 seconds. No one knows why he's saying the military, I think you know why. Because Sintkham told him and General Flynn told him and General Mattis told him and all the generals told him, sir,

there's been a deal made with Saudi Arabia and al-Qaeda to take over more than 50 countries. They've already invaded 16 of them. That was back at the time four years ago. And we've got to stop them. They're now in 30 plus countries on that list, sir. We've been double crossed, sir. They overthrew our ally, Egypt.

They overthrew Qaddafi who'd made a deal with us. They're trying to overthrow Syria. They're trying to overrun Iraq. Sir, it's a major threat. We've got to stop it. They've been telling Trump that, Trump's had General Flynn and people telling him behind the scenes for three years.

A year before he ever announced running for president. Four and a half years ago, General Dempsey, the head of the Joint Chiefs went to the White House and told Obama, we're not going to be the Air Force for al-Qaeda. Remember all that in the news at the time? So, oh, we don't know what Trump's talking about when he says the military.

I think you know why. You know what, President Trump? Keep taking the gloves off. Say, you know why Hillary and Obama are the founders of ISIS and the Saudi Arabian Caliphate expansion. And you are the ones that came to me and asked me to run for office to stop this. What the fuck?

Whoa. So, so the generals came to Trump to tell him to run for office to stop the, to stop ISIS, which was the creation of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Only one man. I don't know if that's treason, if it's true, but it's, why would you pick him?

That part is bizarre. If you're a general. That part we can't answer. It might have something to do with bizarre Russian connections that were in the dirty dossier. Yeah. Possibly. So does he think the dirty dossier is true?

No, he thinks it's a terrible hatchet job. One of the most evil things that's ever happened. That makes sense, but this was wondering. No, he's totally opposed to everything that was in it. He thinks it's a propaganda put out by the communist Chinese and Hillary Clinton and George Soros and Saudi Arabia. But back to this clip, the reason that I said that,

like it's fairly treasonous, I believe, is that you have these generals allegedly. Yes. And again, I don't believe Alex's story. But it seems a little far-fetched. If it were true, there would be these dudes who have security clearances and have top-secret information

and are coming to private citizen and all-around insane person, Donald Trump, and telling him these things outside the system. But they're telling him these things that they should not be telling him. Okay, that is weird. You know what? I didn't think about that part.

And then, that's clearly classified. They planned some sort of a revolution. A coup. Yeah. And use, and this is the other thing. Other things that Alex talks about was like, the insider people in the information agencies are the ones who leaked stuff to WikiLeaks

in order to help Trump. And if that's the case, added into what he was just talking about here, that is straight-up treason. Yeah. That is like, we had, again, I don't believe that's true. Right. But if that were true,

then we would have essentially an insurrection within our government happening that is way scarier than a Donald Trump presidency. If that's possible. Yeah. So then this clip ends with Anderson Cooper talking. And just while he's talking, know that there's a video montage of him reporting

from all of these locations. Okay, okay. So all of these terrorist attacks that happened, they just show footage of him at all of them. Okay. Because they were important enough that they flew him out to report. So now here we are, man.

The gloves are off, no limits. We're taking them out. You really want the rest of the story? Cooper, hoping you and your idiot audience don't know what's happening. Hoping there's still some dwindling group of morons that are low information and will still buy all of your posturing.

We don't know what he's talking about. Cooper was a cheerleader in the Middle East for Al Qaeda. Cooper is a monster. A total bloodsucking, robber baron, great, great grandson, nobody. I agree that the show, the mole, wasn't very good. That was fair. An enemy of the Republic,

every single one of these people who knows what they're doing consciously is undermining this country, trying to crash the stock market, trying to cause race wars, trying to get illegal aliens to vote. That's in the news today. Not once out of their mouth.

We're organizing illegals to vote. Letty legals vote, but there's no illegals voting. Trump's insane. Every single one of them is now an enemy of the Republic. Back to him. You know why to those military commanders today, but no explanation was given as to why the news media would not report terrorist attacks

given all of our coverage. It's just not true. Jim, if I can say anything much, I'm keeping him honest. As Jim said, not only did we cover many of the attacks on that list the White House has released, we covered them heavily. I know because I was there on the ground

reporting a number of them. 360 was in Ottawa, Canada, October, 2014. That's on the list. Where gunmen killed a reservist at the National War Memorial where he was on duty at the tomb of the unknown soldier. I was also in Orlando last June. That was on the list. Also after 49 people were gunned down

at the Pulse Nightclub, I know. But we can go back and show how you first reported for days that it wasn't Islamic. I would never say it's San Bernardino. So he's saying that the news media didn't cover the Pulse Nightclub shooting? That's on the list of underreported terrorist attacks. What?

Yeah. That's insane. They're still talking about that. I'm reading news about their charging his wife with aiding and abetting. That's like ongoing coverage. They're covering the fuck out of that. They're covering it now.

Well that goes back to what I was saying. Some of them they cover too much. I didn't think it was that crazy where they said something like the Pulse thing was under covered. Oh absolutely. All of everything that could possibly be called. Is 9-11 on the list?

I wish it was. I think it only goes back to 2014. Okay. But yeah, like I said, the list is embarrassing. It's tons of stuff that we all got an ass full of. We heard tons about it. And Anderson Cooper is CIA, he's evil, blah blah blah. I'm gonna skip over this next clip.

It's where Alex explains that there's fight clubs being organized at Berkeley and other universities and faculty are involved. The universities are starting fight clubs. So they're university sanctioned for leftists to learn how to fight so they can take out these conservatives when they come to town. To be young again.

My college didn't offer a fight club. No, and no one does. I read the article that he posted and it's just some people who are concerned that there's going to be attacks on minorities and on LGBT people. Oh, so they teach on like self-defense? Basically.

And they're calling it fight club because it's fun. It also sounds like a fight club. And also the university has been like, we're not involved in this. We don't want anything to do with this. Yeah, yeah. It's just a clear cut case of him lying. I wanna get to though.

He has an interview at the end of this episode. Okay. He has an interview with a guy named Daryl Hamamoto. Okay. Who's a, is a professor. And he's really against liberal bullshit. And I wanna play this cause I wanna give the listeners and I wanna give you an idea of how interviews go

on his show. Cause there, it's really bizarre. If you've ever watched someone be interviewed on a news show, it's unlike that in any way. I've seen a couple of them. I'm excited to see this one. Well, I wanna start with the introduction that he gives. The reason I wanna start with this is because

we're both, you know, have our, have spent a lot of time doing standup. Yep. We know what a good intro is. Yeah. We know what a bad intro is. Yep. This is a bad intro. Okay.

Cause it's like, if someone is introducing you as a performer and they spend like five minutes listing credits, then how are you gonna get up there? Yeah. It's bad. So it's a bad intro. And then how a professor Hamamoto starts is bizarre. Okay.

So this, this Alex Jones, not a good host. I'm just gonna let this play. But to be fair, Alex is thrown by what ends up happening once Hamamoto starts talking. I'm excited. This is. Excuse real quick for us.

How, what's he bringing him on for? Or does that, will we find out? It's like, was he supposed to be an expert in or talk about or? He, for what I understand, he's an expert in like Illuminati stuff and Asian American studies, but then also he's. So one fake thing, one real thing.

Yeah. He's, he's on the show to discuss how there's like riots in Berkeley and like other stupid liberal campuses and stuff like that. Gotcha. Anyway, listen to this fucking introduction. And our guest joining us the rest of the hour, Professor Darrell Hamamoto has taught the university

of California for most of his career. He holds a undergraduate degree in political science, popular culture studies, comparative culture. Hamamoto is a senior ranking professor at the Department of Asian Studies. He's recognized authority on US media, popular culture and sexuality, having published extensively in the areas Hamamoto's recipient of the Rockefeller Foundation,

research fellowship at UCLA and the Fulbright Scholarship, Japan. His current project is a volume that outlines the principles of the new world, the new world order theory that is directed to the current generation college and university and undergraduates in search of alternatives to the dominant foundation guided corporate as curriculum.

Trynday.com where you can find his, his book. So I've been ranting here, but I got to tell you, this has gotten so crazy that I don't even know what to call it now, but it's good to have you back with us. Thank you very much, Alex for inviting me. Before we begin though, I wanted to compliment one of your frequent contributors, Roger Stone, with this excellent book here,

The Making of the President 2016. I've gotten my two copies ordered through InfoWars. And this is the first draft of history. This is the book that academic historians, for what that's worth, that academic historians will refer to when they write about this ethical moment, not just in American political history, but in world history in general.

This is a truly... He goes on like another minute talking about the book that you can order on infowars.com. So he has this long fucking ramp up of like way too many credits. And then as soon as the guy starts talking, he's like, Alex, before we get going, I got to tell you about a book you sell.

Yeah, and he's got two, why do you buy two copies? I don't know, probably one's a gift or maybe one's a display copy. Stocking stuffers. Yeah, yeah. So he gets on and he does eventually get down to some business. Brass tax.

And this, this clip is super bizarre. It has to do with, you know, the protesters and how, you know, just what they're really like. We're having this complex talk. Our audience is getting it. Compare this to Nancy Pelosi. Also, when he says we were having this complex talk, that's immediately after them just talking

about this book for like three minutes. Gotcha. Pelosi not knowing who's president or Maxine Waters thinking Russia attacked Korea. He played this clip of Nancy Pelosi slipping up and saying President Bush, you know, you have a slip of the tongue sometimes. Yeah.

And then he also played this clip of Maxine Waters saying that Putin invaded Korea. And look, she's an old lady. I get that maybe she's not the best representative in the world or whatever, but she's not an idiot. She just meant to say Crimea and said Korea. Gotcha. They're pretty fucking close.

I mean, I'm not saying that that's great. I would prefer she say Crimea, but she said Korea, she didn't mean Korea, you dumbass. Yeah, yeah. But he has to make a fucking, I mean, I don't say this to be in the latest position. I think of myself as an average person. I am frightened by the Republican

and Democratic establishment's arrogance and fossilized brain structure. Oh, absolutely. But I'm not going to stoop so low as just to dismiss them as being a moronic. No, no, I mean, they're in control. That's what I'm asking. How did this dominate us?

Well, they're very much in control, but it's from sources which hopefully I can get to later today that are very similar to the mechanisms that students and the professional rioters are under control. It has a lot to do with frequencies, EMF, and pharmaceuticals, which I've spoken to before on your show previously. I think most of these people who are in positions of power

need to be vetted so far as their health, their mental health, and their physical health is the cause. Exactly. There are people behind this who use basically mentally ill, adult, front people. So you didn't catch that there. He's saying that people need to be checked for mental health and what have you.

Immediately after saying that there are essentially waves going through the air that are controlling people. Cool, man. All right. Way to go A to B on that one. We need to check your mental health out. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so he has more to say about protesters, though,

for you. Yeah, they are insane clowns. Well, we got three minutes to break. Let's roll through your open salvo, Professor Hamamoto, on what we're seeing at Berkeley, what we're seeing the attack of women and the media praising it, the bizarre behavior. Well, it's already been declared that future transhumanist or post-humanist society

will be female led. I was just reading the Chronicle of Higher Education and the latest wrinkle on that is the elite institutions such as Yale. It's the same old story going back to Skull and Bones. They're promoting polyamory, which is multiple husbands by a singular mom. He meant polyandry, but he said polyamory,

which is a much broader thing. Polyamory just meant he had multiple partners. Yeah, polyandry is more multiple men with one woman, but I mean, it's not like he's a professor of sexuality or anything. A seat who runs over, who controls that family. So this is their declared intention and how we proceed on that level remains to be seen.

I have some concrete proposals that hopefully we can get to. Well, I remember you were on like three years ago or longer saying that they're gonna have the men walk behind the women, all this. I witnessed that at the women's march and the men all did, it was like a cult. So stop breaking that down.

Absolutely, you're following the queen bee. And by the way, one of the strategies that we're gonna use here is trolling these people and pranking them. You recall the so-called women's march on Washington that was Soros funded and you heard, you saw the so-called pussycap. Well, here is one of our solutions.

At this point, he pulls out a guitar that he has sitting next to him. Okay. It's a normal guitar. It just happens to be pink. That's it. There's nothing special about this guitar. Okay.

It doesn't have anything drawn on it. It's just a pink guitar. You know what? That's awesome because when he said that we have an answer to the pussy hat, I thought for sure he was gonna pull out some giant dick hat. Yeah, like a dick hat, mushroom head hat. Like remember those cat and the hat hats

that were big for like a day in the 90s? Oh man, that was a mess. Like one of those but flesh colored. Yeah, yeah. And I gotta say, I gotta respect Professor Hamamoto for coming with props. Cause like as soon as the interview started, he pulls out the book.

He's going on a Jag here. He pulls out his guitar. Yeah. Later, he pulls out some toothpaste that he had ordered from Alex. But does he have one of those suitcases like the road prop comic? He might as well.

They used to pack every day. Just as a glove box. Oh, okay. We're pulling everything out of. Here's what he has to say about this guitar. Okay. We're gonna use the phallic guitars. In pudenda pink, right?

This happens to be a pure Americana offender Esquire guitar. I took it to one of the social justice warrior rallies with my little fender champ amp. And I asked to sit in. I watched them on YouTube and I figured out what they were trying to do. They were trying to propagandize undergraduates with rap and hip hop and funk.

So I took my, I said, what will it be the gayest instrument in my collection that I could take to this event? It was my pink Esquire, my pudenda pink Esquire. And they wouldn't let me sit in. They said, I'm sorry, brother. We just can't let it happen. And they were hired.

This is part of the cultural takeover. What do you think about that? Dude, like, oh, so much to unpack. I mean, that's like, what? Now keep in mind, this is the guy who's saying that people need to be screened for mental health. Like, here's the thing is like, all right. Like, let's just try to go point by point.

It's just, it's almost an overload. It's like, if you think the guitar is phallic, I do not want to know what your cock looks like. Well, I mean, there's a stem to it. Yeah, but it's like oversized balls. If the, the like, or just the body of the guitar, or just like a lot of warts or something. True. Weird malformation.

But all right, you'd have nice ridges where the frets would be. Fair. Good for a lady. For her pleasure. Yeah. But then wait, what is, why is rap and hip hop? There's a conspiracy.

Or funk and hip hop? There's a conspiracy to get undergraduates into these urban jungle rhythms of hip hop and funk. Racist. And the voice he does. Sorry, my brother. Yeah. That adds into like, wait, get what you're saying.

So wait, is his idea that these guys are homophobic? So he's proving that by taking his quote unquote gay instrument to try to play with them. And they say, no, your instruments too gay. Honestly, I don't know. You don't know. He doesn't make it, he doesn't elaborate on that at all. And Alex's interview style is not one

to ask follow-up questions. That's just insane. Like I didn't get that where it's like, look, I'm going to call, I'm going to prove these guys who they really are. I'm going to take my gay instrument. Uh-huh. And they're going to say it's too gay.

And then I've proved my point. You are trapped with my super gay instrument. I think, I think he was saying that I have the gayest instrument I could possibly find. And of course they love gay instruments. So of course they would accept it. Oh, so he was trying to blend. Yeah.

I think that's what he was saying. Oh, that is all of, there's no way to take that. That makes it like less hilarious. Yeah. And both of our, both of our theories are equally like insane and possible and possible. It could be what he's saying. I've listened to the entire interview and I don't know.

How is the pink guitar gay? It's pink. I could even, I could see as far as if you called it feminine. I mean, it's still a weird that you're genderizing your instruments, but I could see, you have a pink guitar. It's a slightly more feminine. Culture has that pink versus blue thing. But, you know, it's a little childish.

A gay guitar. And then he looked through all his instruments to find his gayest instrument. Why is he ranking his instruments least gay to most gay? Meanwhile, he's broadcasting on to Alex's show from like a laptop or whatever in his living room that opens into his kitchen.

So like, I don't know what kind, how many instruments he's got. How does he have so many degrees? Look, I think, is this a failure of this? Like, like this, the higher education system? He might ironically be that which he is critiquing. Let's see. That's the other part to unpack is like,

I mean, he does teach it to UC Davis. That's not like a, That's a real school. Yeah. That's, it's not so real as fuck school. Yeah. You know, it could be a thing where he has like a sitting room next to his kitchen or something like that. I might be, I might be pretending it's a studio apartment

when it's not. It might be. Or he might have like some divorces and have alimony payments or something like that. You never know what people's lives are like. Yamamoto. A lot of people, like Dave Foley has to live in a one bedroom apartment.

Yeah. I've heard his stories and it sounds very sad. Yeah. So I mean, it could be a situation like that. Hamamoto. Hamamoto. So that was crazy. That was nuts. Dude, that last part was just like, wow. I seemed really hurt too

that they wouldn't let him sit in. That's not, there's no way that's the whole story. No. He definitely sat down. It's not even any of the story. Well, yeah, it's probably just straight up made up. But if it's not made up, he definitely probably said, hey, bros, can I sit in with my gay instrument?

And they were like, dude, that's all of that's weird. You need to leave. And he was like, oh, guess there's some real hate going on here. He's a gray haired Asian dude too. Like an old Japanese man coming in with a pink guitar with his own amp. Yeah.

Like, and by the way, it's at a protest. It's not a concert. Like, I don't, I don't know if at every protest there's music. Like I go, I've gone to a number of protests in my life. Often it's just people sitting around or walking. There's motion involved. There's not enough time for you to sit down and plug in your

amp. I've never been to a protest. Is that weird? Nah, it's fine. It's a choice. I think they're, I don't like them. It's a little bit much. There's a lot of people around and we'll have you,

but sometimes is it fun to like meet people? I've never met anybody at a protest. What was your age range of protests? Current to college age. I've gone to a lot. Even in college? Yeah. Never like, well, I was in college in the bush.

Cool sign. Let's like go grab a drink. Not saying like hitting on women, like guys or girls, like friend, you know. I think I would have go to protests with friends. So there wasn't as much like external socializing. I guess I did get pamphlets from people and stuff like that, but not like, no, it was never, you know what?

The fantasy was that, that it was like a social thing and you'd meet somebody, they'd pass you some grass. And all of a sudden you're off into a whole new world of revolution. It was never like that. That's disappointing. And especially now that I'm like in my 30s, I go and did you go to the women's March?

I didn't. I wasn't able to that day. I was busy, but I did go to a number of ones around the election, okay, after the election. Yeah. How did it make you feel better? It did. It did.

It made me feel like I was a part of something more than and it was really great to see so many different caused people. You know, like a lot of, a lot of diverse causes being represented all in one. There's a lot of solidarity. It's bad or good though. I think it's good. You don't think it's like splintering?

I don't think so because they're all merging as one to be like, all right, look, we all have our sort of pet cause, but a big picture. We know all of us are fucked if we, if we let this guy do his stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.

Anyways, it's fairly interesting. You know, it's more interesting. The next thing, the next thing that Hamamoto has to say. There's more Hamamoto. There is. I thought that it was Mrs. Kudugra, his big finale. Oh no. He goes, he goes deeper.

He has some thoughts about who these protesters are and who these radicals are. And I don't know how to put too fine a point on this. I don't agree with him. I'll just say that right up top. We'll see what you think. Okay. It's because, and this is so much speculative.

You know, we can do this. We can kind of put off these hypotheses based on what we already know about decades and decades of mind control systems and programs. Much of which, by the way, as I stated before, we're concentrated in the East Bay. But she and others of a certain subset within the Asian American community, most specifically, I'll say it, even though the

majority are great, nice, hardworking, intelligent and upright Christian people. And I'm talking about Filipino Americans. I think they're coming out of the Alameda Naval Base. They are the products of what colloquially is known as the Super Soldier Program. And what's happened is that they're, they come out of a total Navy family of totally administered life from me.

He's not done yet, but I want to point out that Justin, when he said the Super Soldier Program, you raised your eyebrows and just gave a nod. Of course they are. But no way it's not going this way. There's no way it wasn't headed this way. You weren't, your look on your face was not incredulous. It wasn't like, what the fuck are you talking about?

It was like, oh yeah, oh yeah. You had to look like I was like, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Super Soldier Program, totally. There's more to say about the Asian Super Soldiers. Heals to healthcare, to education. And there's this new generation of immigrant naval personnel, of Filipino-American heritage who, who got to the United

States through their military service, who are now at the core of, of this so-called street actions that we're seeing in the East Bay and the Northern California. So what you're saying is you're identifying leaders that you know have a Navy background, which just means a government background. Exactly, yeah. It's, it's the, it's the deep Navy.

It's not the, the ordinary Navy that, that we know and love. And that's defending American sovereignty. But there's a subset. The shadow Navy. Yes, exactly. As you know, that, that within any institution, there's always a shadow entity with them at the very top. So they're coming out of Alameda, I think.

I think. Yeah, probably. We all know what the shadow library is. Shadow post office. That's why your packages are late sometimes because they're, they're being transferred by the shadow post office. Every institution has shadow up top. It's got a shadow organization.

I'm going to be on the shadow version of this podcast next week. I love the, I love that though, that, that he's like, you know, it's not the Navy that we know. And Alex is like, Oh, shadow Navy. Well, you know what, dude, to go to your again, like more cynical, but goddamn, if it's not more probably spot on view of these types of people in terms of like, when we're talking about like, I don't feel like I was defending, but just more kind of just

speaking on the fact that like, you know, like, Oh, they're turning the shrimps gay, but if you're gay, that's okay. Like, I don't hate you. It's also like, it's weird how they keep doing that all the time where it's like, well, you know, it's not the Navy that protects us. I love those guys. Those are great. Those are great guys. It's the shadow Navy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It is weird how they always like separate and then retract, but it's still like, do you are still calling out the Navy? Well, it's, it's like, here's my cynical take on it. It's one way of creating a narrative about the world and never having to take responsibility for things that exist in the real world. Right. Because you can be like, Oh, no, no, no, no. My narrative involves these other things.

Right. It's no, no, no, it's not that. It's, it's like, and it's also like a way of like, if, if someone from the Navy were to like, you know, call in or whatever hypothetical way they reach these people and go like, look, I've been part of the Navy for 30 years. I'm a, this person, I've been on these many ships and all this is crazy. But well, sir, thank you for your service, but you're not in the shadow Navy. So you wouldn't know.

But that is compartmentalized. Yeah. You don't know what goes on. This is way above your pay grade. And I know because someone called me and told me the documents are right here. Yeah, absolutely. It's like, okay, what the fuck? It's just interesting.

It's just, I just can't believe this guy is to me. Well, just, it's just interesting psychologically. Not interesting. Like the facts are interesting. You know what it comes down to to me. And I, I hate, I hate that it sort of boils down to this in many ways to me. I think so much of it comes down to misplaced masculinity and like weird versions of masculinity. Elaborate.

I'm interested in this. Well, this guy, a lot of his research is on the desexualization of Asian men. Okay. In popular culture, in American culture. That's like a real thing though, right? Sure. Yeah. I think it's an interesting, I'd love to read a book on it.

Steve Harvey just got in trouble for that, right? Did he? Saying that women don't want to date Asian men. He said that on his daytime show and he got some real shit for it. He's not the first comic. He probably shouldn't say it on his daytime. Yes. Keep that for the stage.

Keep that for the untapped events. The one on like one or two seven. Yeah. No, I was never up that early, but I was as you, I don't know if you do know or not. I'm a huge Steve Harvey fan. So I knew it existed. I was just never up that early. I've heard it in cabs and make sense.

It's one of the greatest offenders of fake phone calls I've ever heard. Oh, they do like pre-tape. All of their call ins are fake. It's just all actors. God, so embarrassing. But then also he is the only radio personality who's more Christian outwardly than Alex Jones. I want to get back to you. I don't want to let myself jump off that topic.

Sorry. Yeah. So he has all these interesting research topics about the desexualization of Asian men. Yeah. Then he has, of course, he believes that there's an Asian super soldier program, which is, you know, a good way to undo that in your mind. Yeah. You know, so there's that.

And then on top of that, all of this narrative about these protests and about the idea that the coming future is going to be ruled over by women is just an incredibly, it indicates a massive fear of women having any control over things. Right. I think that's what a lot of this boils down to. I can't believe he's a teacher, like a professor. Okay. Here's what I would say.

When you're in college, you're still developing as an adult in many ways. And I don't think it's right to someone who's in college. You shouldn't treat them necessarily like they're a full grown adult because they're still figuring a lot of stuff out, developing that sort of thing. But they're not so impressionable that having a challenging teacher is dangerous. So if you have a teacher, even if they are a little bit wacky, like even this guy, yeah, I could take a class of his when I was in college and be like, I got to get through this thing.

It wouldn't make any damage me. Based on what I told you about me in college over would have probably been like, dude, I'm taking all this guy's classes. Yeah. Maybe that's super soldier program is real as fuck. Yeah. I'm going to ruin every party talking about it. Yeah.

There's a decent chance. That's the flip side of it. You'd be like, oh, dang, this weapon here, man. Anyway, yeah, brings us to the end of our clips. Okay. That's that's that's this day in Alex Jones. Man, that was that was a hell of a ride. I'll be honest.

I don't like I didn't like today's episode that much in one way. This was fine. But like, I'm like, I'm sorry. This was a disappointing performance from Alex. I guess they didn't go off the deep end enough. Yeah. And the stuff he was it just wasn't it wasn't Alexi enough. You know, there's just the thing you can feel it.

You can feel it when he's on and when he's not. And it just felt like he wasn't really on his grandma. Just admin it could be part of it. And now that we've come to the end of this, I feel guilty that I played that. No, it was fine. I understand why you did it made total sense because I did. It was like, oh, this is a nice moment to start things.

And then it ended in Oklahoma City. Yeah. That's just it's a it's a it's a nice little snippet of what to be expected from the rest of the show. And that's kind of what he does. Yeah. It was interesting. Soft kill.

Soft kill of grandma. Anyway, Justin, this has been fun. Thank you so much for having me, man. I did it. I had a great time as well. Sweet. All right, guys, we'll be back soon. But until then, I have been a policy wonk.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.