Knowledge Fight - #171: Loosh and Let Live

Episode Date: June 20, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan about a very bizarre episode of Project Camelot where Kerry Cassidy interviews a real strange weirdo named Steve Kelley about how there is a demonic city under a museum in Los Angeles. This touches on everything, so strap it in.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed. We are Dan. What's Dan? Hey, Dan. Hello. If I was I don't know if I were Use the subjunctive. All right. All right. All right. I apologize. Were I to be were I to be someone utterly unfamiliar with subjunctive podcasts, grammar. Sure. Love. Okay. Um, just just the general sense that life could be better. I would say first of all the passive voice is spectacular

Secondly, I would say that I would say I don't understand that. I don't know anything about grammar can't help you on love I'm a robot. There we go. I can tell you that this is barcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones and this guy over here Doesn't know anything about him and you should listen to it. Give it a shot. Absolutely Perfect. So that bit was executed to perfection. It was not bad before we get going with today's episode just got to address slight elephant in the room We did try and record on Monday night and got to a little bit of a row a little bit of a fight and enough people were Watching and are going to listen to the show that I feel like it's appropriate that we address We should at least talk about it because I do think that I got a couple of messages

They were nice from people like me like hey, don't worry about stuff And I don't think necessarily the people understood that I wasn't mad at you I wasn't mad at you interrupting me. That's kind of our dynamic That's like a little bit to the to the extent of like in the chat room They have a drinking game and one of the things is when I physically have to wait to talk So like it's not that's fair It's not that I'm unfamiliar with that dynamic between us or even that it bothers me, right? But I think a lot of people might have thought like Dan and Jordan are fighting

They're mad at each other. They're not gonna be friends or something like that. And that's oh god No, what was going on is we were having a conversation about the children in concentration camps. Yes Concentration camps use whatever language you prefer that seems fitting, but you were talking about how you aren't sure if This was really that new in terms of atrocities that the United States commits right and of course other countries But you know since we live in the United States is in that and and I was trying to bud in to disagree with you because I Don't necessarily think what we ended up talking about after we turned off the recording was what I was probably trying to get to say which was that

The lack of a justifiable explanation for this the lack of plausible deniability that we have in like when a drone Accidentally and heavy quotes kills a child right when it's trying to aim at a terrorist like there's some sort of Psychological buffer that you can make in your head That allows you to like move on past it, right? Whereas this has no Buffer like that at all. Nope. This is just abject cruelty Well, so you are making your point and I tried to bud in to sort of disagree with it to make that point or to sort of Include that in the conversation and then you steam don't see them ruled right through I do how there should be no government Maybe borders are a bad idea

And shit like that. Yeah, and it just made me so mad because I didn't get to say the thought that I wanted to say I just disagreed with you on your road, right, right? So it was going to paint me in the box like I have explained to you that I was a Centrist on children's freedom and I'm not thrilled right I can take it when someone wants to like levy accusations of Dan being a centrist with like I mean, I'm a big boy I don't care right I could take my lumps and I can I can debate things with people But I really in terms of this situation in this story. I've no interest in that branding Yeah, I have I have no time for it even people who mean it well

And none of this is to say that you were intentionally behaving in a way that would put me in that box, right? Or anything. It's not mad at you. I'm not mad at the hypothetical listeners I was just super frustrated and dealt with it poorly by throwing my headphones on the table Well, that's where it like it when I when I'm trying to think through that thought which is Which was something that I've been thinking about the whole day and I've I could tell you were doing it I I was just I was just trying so hard to get to like this this this this Reconciliation of it. Yeah, because you're absolutely right one of the big reasons that this is so much different is Despite all of the cruel acts that America has

Committed And continues to commit. Yeah. Yeah, kind of a thing this one is just so it isn't different And yet it is so massively different I'm certain if someone like a historian were to sit down and and like really go over examples There's got to be another yeah, few that are just as bad. Yeah, of course But in our lifetime, it doesn't it does feel uniquely shitty, right? I'm not I'm not sure right. I mean I I'm fine saying that and acting on it now I'd probably need to sit with those feelings for a little while to know if I fully support that right

I'm not sure if it matters but you know it It's hard and the other thing that I think is particularly hard about it, too Is that like not to say we called this or anything like that? But I think one of the things that we've gone over over and over again is like a Alex Jones is representative of this tide. He is a voice of white nationalism Yes, what you're seeing is othering of particularly Muslims and immigrants and It's not to say like it feels really terrible because hey, even we couldn't stop this right

Right no, I totally understand where you're coming from there is a marked feeling of impotence around it And that is kind of a bummer Not and I don't I don't know if that has any place of ego in it or anything But it just kind of everything everything really sucks and then the other thing that we talked about when we turn things off was the the feeling of Inability to do anything like even a desperate An awareness that situation is desperate and we need to act right The the ability to make any concrete change feels feels very difficult and there are things we can do

There's a rally. There's protests that will be taking place. There's organizations people can donate Yeah, a couple of organizations that I know continue. Yeah, I just want to say that it feels very desperate And it feels desperate even to do these things that having done these things, right? It doesn't feel like you're really making a difference, but it does matter It doesn't matter to do those things or do something because what Alex Jones would advocate is a feeling of powerlessness in the face of this giant Behemoth evil and that's stupid right direct action is always possible Even if it feels like it does nothing should do something well, that's one of the the organization that I There are a couple that I looked into today that I say nothing about these organizations

I didn't look into them. I will stand by your assessment there are a couple of Organizations that I research that are direct action, you know, they're not like the Red Cross where they have an operating budget or anything like that Like I don't fuck around with that. Sure. The first was the legal aid justice center, which is entirely devoted to getting migrant children Representation great if you because if they've been separated from the parents 70% of them or something like that have nobody so they have no representation. They have nothing or rights necessarily Exactly. Yeah, and then the other one like a attorney at all. Yeah, exactly. And then the other one was I think it's I think it's actually becoming Somewhat popular. It's our AI CES. I've seen yeah, post that on Twitter the big reason that I

liked them a lot is because they are putting it not just towards Legal defense but also towards a permanent bail fund right or a bond fund. That's great. So like if it costs five grand to get out of Prison to see your kid and you don't have five grand Well, then you just stay there with this permanent bond fund because bonds aren't you know It's not like a purchase if everything goes well, you get the money back Yeah, so if the bond fund is set up sufficiently it can operate indefinitely and

That's one of the big things that I I feel like we should do great. The other thing is I think we should all buy guns and What That one was a bit, okay, so anyway, that is the first nine minutes of our episode Now we're we're back. I think that we needed I think we did the right thing by bailing on the episode because As we revealed and I will reveal in a moment here. This is gonna be a project Camelot episode Yeah, there's no reason to have that kind of negative cloud hovering over what's supposed to be a jolly good time Yeah, we are we are absolutely going to enjoy the fuck out of this

Oh, and and you will I can't wait you might actually not because I'm not because of how much I'm gonna enjoy Yeah, well that if you enjoy it that means research and words Oh, man words down much this hits all this passive voice this episode actually is going to hit on to two things that I've done Extensive amounts of research in in the past and it just happens to converge in one person Oh perfect so much stupidity you've fallen in love more or less with the city of Austin there. It is. That's right Thank you so much to everybody in Austin. We were there on Friday the live episode came out on Monday We first of all appreciate all the positive reviews of the live episode Those live the positive reviews would be impossible without the help of the people who helped us set up and

Make that a reality absolutely And so just before we get gone like to instead of thanking any donors today I'd like to give some thank yous to to the folks in Austin who who really facilitated this shit along with yourself You picked the perfect episode, but that's that's not as that's not as much of the work is getting a coordinating. Ah All we had to do is fly down there That's because the people on the ground in Austin John Doug Rory

Max everybody on the ground who made that show possible It was it was the most fun nerve-wracking Insane couple of days. I think of my entire life. It it was spectacular and because of that Quadrum for it quadrum for it. I don't think that's the right word quad Quimber and four musketeers three musketeers plus d'artanian Because of their help it was just a spectacular time and in recognition of that I would like to announce that all four of them are now officially raptor princesses

I'm a policy wonk Someone someone sonamite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser little little titty, baby I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. I Know how to read. I am out of control. I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life I really haven't I bet you money. There are few living black people that have been Abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people at all Hitler Joseph Stalin Both those guys were complete bad asses

Complete Welcome to McDonald. May I help you? I'm Benny Sander. Thank you so much Austinites It's so prophetic, isn't it boy his his admiration for Hitler and Stalin is being complete bad asses And you're like well, he's being facetious and then we get our own and he's oh, yeah, no, no, he loves him No, fair enough Hitler and Stalin were white. That's true. That's why he doesn't say that about Mao. That's true That's true. So I mean, I think that's gotta be a piece of it He would be he would totally be against the immigration policy if Obama was doing it

Yeah, like if Obama was was doing this all this all this Holocaust shit He would be like hey, he's coming after our people that whole thing or if it was like whites coming in from the south or something like that Oh, yeah, it's all totally fine. It's all It's all baby Rooted in white supremacist and ethnic cleansing. Yep. Um, so I want to get I don't want to minimize that stuff And I'm sure Alex is saying some horrible stuff about it. Yeah, I can't deal with that I don't want to listen to it. Uh-huh don't care to hear him defend these policies I don't want to hear anybody defend this. I don't want to hear I

Someone posted in the Facebook group about how he's talking about space force. I don't give a shit I don't want to hear about space force from him because I have other people to tell me about it and and I'll tell you something about our Jedi work Okay, it's not just killing. Oh, no So that is no it is not extra. It is not just so nope, but it is partially killing now Jedi got a kill I kill hey, you they don't want to it's like what I want to Dan But sometimes you gotta it's like what you learn and I see episode one of game of thrones Sometimes you got to kill and when you put a death sentence down you got to kill the person yourself. Oh, that's true

Ned teaches Ned actually was a Jedi. He was yeah Very low tech Jedi so Jordan like I said today is episode of the PC the project Camelot hell Yeah, and every episode of project Camelot begins the exact same way with Carrie Cassidy saying her name So we will never forget Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight I have a very good old friend Haven't heard or seen from him in a long time and I spoke at one of my conferences He's a wonderful researcher an investigator and gonna bring him on the screen here now Stephen Kelly

Stephen say hello to everyone Hi, Carrie Stephen join the club. How's Carrie doing? She's she's really excited. She's feeling it She's good. This means if she's excited which you can tell by the sound of her voice She's a what he's a wonderful researcher. She's thrilled to have him on the show thrilled to have him on in that wonderful Monotone that she has Man, I'll tell you what this guy is like we've bit. Mmm. What do you got? I don't know how to put this into words like because you know what every single time we meet a new person through project Camelot

I'm sure my response is we found a real crazy Like I always think we've outdone ourselves. It's almost like there's a thread. Yeah, but this guy is like a really unique Version of crazy for for this show. All right. I am is he random pants crazy? I think he's crazier than a diamond gusset pair. Okay. He what he is is like this He gives me multiple feelings Whereas like there's other like a like a mark. Richard's doesn't give me multiple feelings He gives me like that guy's a murderer and he's having fun in prison. Yeah, like that. That's all I got It's a very extreme two feelings, but yeah, right, right other guys like a Randy Kramer

He's the other space pilot guy. Yeah, I was like that guy You know, he's just making up a past for himself because he had a Like a do nothing 20s He had a rough go yeah to do nothing a decade in his 20s and now he's like well actually I was in space Of course, but they probably back to my body the exact moment I left crazy I understand you got a reclaim some time. I had some bad years too. I get it like that sort of thing This guy Steven Kelly is like I got so many feelings about him I don't even I don't even know how to tell you ahead of time. All right, there's hilarity. Yes

There's there's so many others. This is this is gonna be a mess But here we're gonna get the full gamut of human emotion today. Yeah, absolutely You might be wondering the why is he on the show? Why is Carrie having a mon and is he a Jedi? Well, we're gonna get to that. Okay, we're gonna get to that much later. All right, but much later much later Well, of course, it takes a while to get up to Jedi and he doesn't want to reveal those sorts of things He's a Padawan at the beginning of the episode. Absolutely. Yes. So we get to Carrie explaining why she's having him on again because he was on way in the past and then She tries to like she tries to distance herself from some of his ideas

Okay, immediately. Okay. Well, I was going through my library and I realized that somehow My audio interviews with you seem to have disappeared and we didn't get hacked. No you did We don't know what happened some of the radio shows they disappeared so I thought I'd bring you back on and we just It may seem like we're going over old business, but it's still current. So it's all good Yeah, well, you know, I think it's been it was November 2012 when you know the whole just 2012 2012 12 whatever 2012 happened is when I really came out with us And I think that's when you we became a you know, you became aware of all that so yeah It's been at least a good one out of six years now

Right actually, I think it was before that that I we were in touch, but it's been a while So cuz I So it turns out it's been a while and there's definitely a Right, which is not a good tone of voice. Well, it's because he kept saying 2012 2012 2012 Because you remember the 2012 1212 this guy is talking about Nabooru coming back and what have you okay? He has not left that tip even though it's still on still on Nabooru Didn't that is that gone he might believe that 2012 did happen didn't it did but the deadline is passed. Oh, it's past He's not redoing the deadline

It's just he's just like no no no you guys were paying attention. It did happen I can't explain to you what he means exactly by this, but the fact that he's doing that dance means either He knows it was wrong But now he has such a good sense of humor about himself that he's like I could make fun of myself for it Or he still believes because a lot of people do that their predictions weren't wrong But there was like a wave of Waking up that happened on December 20. No 25th is Christmas December 21st 2012 Yeah, that was like that awakening. That's the date of the beginning of the awakening that's still happening. Okay, and long awakening, right, right?

also, I I know I've got so much fun the awakening of what the people How does that relate to the end of the world? I don't understand. Did we wake up too much? No, no no no no no 2012 was never about the end of the world That's just Roland Emmerich movies. Oh, okay. That's just nonsense. All right, December 25th Christmas December 21st 2012 the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It's about the end of the back to Right, right. It's the beginning of the new phase in the Mayan calendar and interpreted it as the end of the world But it's actually just a cycling over of a new

It's a rebirth the age of Aquarius if you will or something along those lines That's that's the way a lot of these dudes would try and rationalize it Although they did have a lot of fun with the doom porn around that time with like all the planet X is coming back and pretty good Stuff planet X is going to hit the world. I can't wait. Yeah, so at this point I saw the fifth element. It's gonna be awesome when planet X. It's the world gonna be crazy so this point we get Kerry asking Steve, I'm gonna call him Steve even though he's by Steven

Asking Steve for some of his credits his respectful bastard. Hey, look, I've spent a lot of time with this guy Okay, all right, so she asks for his bona fides and his credits and then we get to hear a pretty familiar thing That's it's real weird So anyway, you are What we what you call yourself is an X Contractor for the NSA in the CIA. Can you explain that in a little more detail for people? all right real quick that means I am not a Agent CIA agent NSA agent I never went through I never worked for Langley or any of these places like that what I did do is I

Was a contractor I worked and built in Was sort of like an employee for these cowboy agencies that they set up on the side out there and and of course the CIA when they do Operations the half the time they're made everything everybody is disposable the whole operation is disposable So I was one of those disposable people and then of course I got involved with the Ali North people of course, right? Of course, then I got involved in Iran Contra. That's a normal progression That's how it works. I was an expendable guy and then Oliver North came along and he was like you get the hard rice All of these guys are mixed up with Ali North

They're all lying It's because there's so many like it's so definite like it definitely happened Enough people have had to go on record and say like this is real But also lie about the exact details of it, right? That you have like this wiggle room of people who will never tell the whole truth But there are enough truth is out there that you can be like I was I was mixed up in that shit Yeah, and no one will ever like no one will ever be able to confirm it But it has so much more credibility than to say I was in a space battle or something like that because right?

I don't believe that space battle happened. I do know that Iran Contra did happen So that's why they play this game. It's the same reason like why you would say I'm a part of the NSA I was an NSA contractor because they're never gonna confirm or deny that instead of saying like I'm a part of X Y or Z program that like you're just making up right you just make up a program Like what are you talking about? No one is any while Carrie would believe them But well in the 80s the Dollar General stores. I don't know if you knew this was a little militia Yeah, they actually had a secret space program that was run by General dollars That's the weird thing about the name. They tricked people by transposing it the Dollar General

General dollars ordered so many of us and I was only You're just born. I was just born at the time but because of the way that the Dollar General works. Mm-hmm. They have I'm out. I'm out. I ran out of Kerry Cassidy lies. Okay. That's all I got. That's fine But that's why I was just really excited about General dollars. That's fun But that's that should give that gives you some reason why all of these people bring up The all the north shit, right? That's why Larry Nichols brings it up. That's why This guy does I think at least two other people I've heard on Project Camelot Lie about being mixed up in fucking Iran country. I listen to it. I'm like

Shouldn't you guys know each other then? Shouldn't like isn't there it was a big operation couldn't have been that there were thousands of people working on it now Steve his business is lasers Right, right, right, right Right, which is why Oliver north is now the head of the NRA. Oh, that's because he needs lasers That's the only laser sights for guns They hired him to take the NRA into the future right and space battles with lasers No, no, no, and they're gonna run illegal lasers next

I don't think these are like war laser like oh, I don't think this is a laser that can hit you The only thing I've seen that that Steve seems to have made are like lasers for gun sights Oh, like like a targeting laser. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right. I know that's interesting I'm not positive that I can find any proof that he even knows anything about about like high-end lasers, right? Well, I mean, it's like it's like the light you you put it like crystal you put it through it's like light It's so like light. It's very whatever you understand about light. It's pretty much the same stuff. It's true. So of course Steve was involved with Holly North. I'm loving you calling him Steve Love it. Now, would you be surprised to learn that he was involved with a bunch of other mysterious groups? I am not

and then of course After dealing with that my I've worked with the CIA again And but I did get involved with a Billy Meyer people and all that his business with the Pleiadians and the UFOs and then Right, that led to even all kinds of more crazy stuff with the secret agencies and eventually got hooked up to Templars Builder burgers and the people under the Getty that I call the cave Which don't really have anything to do with government per se, but first I guess they're closer to the world Come on the new world order those people. Okay Let me check my watch that's everyone

All right, I was originally a contractor working for a cowboy agency blah blah blah and I got mixed up with Oliver North now That somehow that went south. I still don't know the details, right? So then I just go back to the CIA, you know, they always take people back One time I quit my job at a movie theater when I was a nusher Just because I got mad at the boss one night, right? And then like two days later was like, hey look I overreacted. Do you mind if I come back? He's like get in here. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. Oh sure you committed treason or whatever get on back in here National disgrace where you're selling guns. So then by working with the CIA, I of course got hooked up with the Palladians

Pleiadians and pleiadians and The Meyer people. Yes. Yeah, we are not going to not talk about Like I like his life is like him just bouncing around from secret agency all bored about like Yeah, I was with the Space Bansers and I fought them and then I went back to the NSA and they were like came to the Templars Yeah, well the Templars are always gonna swoop in. Yeah, they're swoopy. So What do you know about Billy Meyer? He was also he was an assassin just in the age-old battle between the assassins and the Templars No, Billy Meyer Billy Meyer is a Swiss dude. He's a Swiss dude. Yeah. All right. He's a Swiss con man

All right. Well that I that I could assume and UFO guy. What is a Jedi but not a con man fair enough You know what I'm saying? They wave their hands. They make you believe things. That's con. That's a con. Here is a So he's most famous for his very easy to debunks hoax photos and videos of UFOs and the like you've probably seen a bunch of them Of course The his photos have generally been proven to be just the result of him taking a photo of a photo that NASA had put out And making it look like the exposure was different and the flash was different You know like NASA puts out tons of animations Missions are going to be yeah, he would just take pictures of the animations and say that he took those pictures from a spacecraft

Okay, like that. That's great. Yeah, it's pretty awesome Or that is not a hard con to pull even in one in many cases He would take pictures of sci-fi movies that were playing on his TV and claim that they were aliens Well now I want to know which ones I What's this guy's taste? I saw a couple examples that people found that were like all the points of similarity Right, right, and you wouldn't know what they were. They were old old movies Yeah, how does he feel about the Natalie Portman film Annihilation? I want to talk about that film so much and nobody has taken a bunch of pictures of I believe it

So one picture bear that talks like a person. Oh, so good one picture. He put out claimed It was of Pleiadian women women two of them I turned out it turned out to be a blurry picture of two of the members of the showgirl group the gold diggers From one of their appearances on the Dean Martin show This guy is a huge mess his videos purporting to show UFOs in action or the product of him making little models and using forced perspective Cinematographers have explained how he does it and his ex-wife has even come out and pointed out that in one of his most famous videos She recognized their home's trash can lid as being part of the spaceship So no, no, so he's like Ed Wood this is what we're dealing with

No, we're dealing with a guy who has big dreams See he's got big dreams and everybody is just pulling him down You need you need to pump the brakes on that because that's how it feels right now Things are gonna turn real quick all right So he's also claimed to have been in contact with aliens for decades at least dating back to like the 1940s Most of them that he talks to all dizzy. He is old as shit. Okay, and he's got a giant beard I'm shocked. He's not dead quickly Most of the people he talks to or aliens he talks to are of the Pleiadian persuasion course the website Billy Meyer

UFO research comm has an amazing archive of his transcribed Conversations with these aliens and not surprisingly what you find is a veritable goldmine of fraudulent predictions and prophecies Okay, mixed in with things that never happened or came to pass our predictions He claims were made in like for example 1975 about a thing that was supposed to happen in 1977 but the prediction mysteriously was never printed until 1995 it happens Yeah, so there's just tons of stuff like that Well, what he did was he wrote it on an envelope in invisible ink and then put it in a bank A deposit box that way he wouldn't alter the

The future as it occurred right since he knew what was going to happen. Yeah, the bank lost it Uh as is when they were exchanging one of their balls all the time when they when the bank was like, oh, we got to upgrade this vault they lost this Invisible ink envelope could be and then he found it in 95 when the Pleiadians shit There's that oh, that dude. This is awesome. I got the phase. So what do you think about Billy Meyer so far? He's great Okay, also, I think he's a winner. Also, Billy Meyer claims to be an avatar of the great prophets in the lineage of enok Elijah, isiah, Jeremiah, jesus, muhammad. Yeah, and then Billy Meyer Wait, it's those that's it. That's the one that's the list. That's the ones. Yep

He got he got the he hit the he hit them all He claims that a german guy sent him a fragment of a text He'd bought in the egyptian black market that said quote I am the herald of truth and in this mission I will once again amongst important times be uh by the names of elijah isiah, jeremiah Emanuel, which is jesus. Yes, muhammad billy. It literally says Billy. Yeah, it says billy It says billy. He thinks he bought a thing from the egyptian black market that just says billy on it. It says billy All right. All those names in a row muhammad billy

So I shall serve the people as prophets seven times until their way of thinking changes to that of the heated creation's law and Directives right billy showed this fragment to the pleiadians who were astounded and confirmed it to be accurate at about 8500 years old absolutely Accurate 8500 years old this guy You know, it's crazy as uh, uh, there is sedarta, uh, gotama So many buddhas and then uh, jim jim jim. He's a great buddha jim the buddha They call him even less offensive because billy is so like colloquial. Yeah, that's so familiar. That's true billy

You imagine a papyrus text from 8500 years ago that says billy I don't even think that was a term for goats 8500 years ago Oh, man so You know the next uh, uh, they've already kind of that this is this is on the down low Uh, but the next dalai lama. Um, uh, davy Davy the dalai lama. Aiden. Yeah, um braiden. Aiden braiden is actually his full name

The point of this though, dude is that like behind the ostensibly harmless ufo fund billy mayer is running a doomsday cult Right, he tells his followers that the end times are near and is clearly fake photos and videos of the proof That he is the one that the all powerful aliens have chosen to guide humanity towards survival Good call needless to say he's scared a lot of people and is now super duper rich In his old age in switzerland Why do they always get rich? They get rich because why do they always get rich? Because it's easy when When you're uh scaring people I want to be evil dan. Yeah, I know can we be evil? We could be so rich if we were evil can't do it god

We would be so rich if we were evil So we don't need to talk about who the templars are or uh the hell we don't not in this case Oh, okay, maybe another day. All right, uh, but all that other stuff Leads to him talking about the cavers the cavers, which I don't think you I don't think you've ever heard never heard of the cavers I don't know if I should tell you All of what's going on. So I'll just give you broad strokes broad strokes Steve caves steve

Yeah He believes that there's an underground city Who does underneath the getty museum the way why the getty museum because John jp j paul getty the the guy who created it was knighted. I think that's his big piece of evidence. Sure I I don't know. It's so caves. Well, we'll get to his reasoning a little bit later But he believes I really feel like you just nailed the entire reasoning behind it That's a big piece of it. Okay. There's uh, he believes that there's an underground city of Aliens and demons and what have you underneath the getty museum

And the people who run it are the cavers Of course they are who like the illuminati and all of them actually report to so like the cavers are higher up This is him. This is his way of trying to pull rank right right on all the people who fuck you with your bullshit Illuminati they don't even come close to the top of the food chain right right. Yeah Cavers the illuminati is just the foot soldiers of the cavers. Yeah, absolutely. Gotcha So jordan. Yes, you're probably curious about what some of the stuff that When he went steve was at these cowboy agencies what he was working on you're probably curious about that No, no, I'm more curious. No, no

About why they call themselves. Do they call themselves the cavers? We're gonna learn all of this stuff because I feel like Splunkers would be a better all of this stuff will become clear in due time. Here is what he was working on. Okay I was still involved with the cia again, but this was for another project involving a big giant flashlight. We call the plasma beam And and then eventually of course the At least three at least three times I had people come in a lot of who I don't really know who the hell they were actually two of them turned out to be

Reptoids. Oh boy. Oh no those reptoids. They're trying to invade our giant flashlight work Uh, I was working on a uh, big giant flashlight. This flashlight was huge. You uh, you could stop there, sir Do you ever go away? Do you ever see a flashlight? Yeah, this one's huge. How big so big so big so big that aliens are involved I What could they possibly need that flashlight for because they don't already have why did they come here? They're playing. It's too dark. You need a giant flashlight Aim from earth To light that baby up. Is that really what it's going on? No, I have no idea. He does bring back up

Why do they need a giant flashlight? He brings back up the giant flashlight another time But it like the context of it is never fleshed out. He never explains what it was for Who wanted what could you need a giant flashlight for it seems like in the world of flashlights We've been working towards making them smaller Generally speaking seems like there's more utility in a small A perhaps portable flashlight, especially when you're in caves. Um, but I don't know So there's aliens. Yeah, because you definitely couldn't fit a giant flashlight in your cave You're already wasting so much space. I'll take up most of the opening. Also the the getty

Endowment cannot cover giant flashlights. I'll tell you that right now. I'll tell you this the getty endowment doesn't come up Okay Just the museum and how there's a city under it. Okay, so at this point We get to learn a little bit more about these aliens. He was working with yes Couple of people that I talk about in that book one of them a guy was named was Vince and Vince was like a handler And uh, he died they actually he was a caver. He was like a caver handler

He was the one that that first came up with the word caver and he was he was one of them he was very creative guy that worked underground and all that but He came to me when I was working with the cia doing the big flashlight project there we go again And he acted like he was like a marketing guy He wanted to come and help me market this project that he was a he was a handler. It became very easily Well, actually from day one. I knew or something weird about him because he didn't speak the good of english his english was He used words To the wrong words at the wrong time like you too often and just

You know like this one of the big clues when you you meet these guys that aren't really human or haven't been human for very long Is that they'll do things like they haven't been doing it for very long and and that's the language, of course Is uh is one of the clues they so that could just be for so literally anybody who doesn't speak the best english Yeah, someone who got you anybody who english is their second language or just somebody from the south No You know The language really bad or they'll get really excited about the skin They're not used they're the being in the skin is something new. It's a new experience so that they're all running around

Oh, wow, this is such a great experience. I really like the skin. You know do that again That kind of thing that's usually a giveaway. That's a good sign, but this particular guy vince I hate to go in segues. Anyway They killed him. I think they killed him because he told me too much He talked he's one that came up with the caver stuff and he talked about the undergrounds and things and they didn't kill you New York gave him a heart attack. So they gave him a heart attack. Yeah, so also So basically his criteria for uh alien person is don't speak good english Uh, so that could be there. They just don't speak english very well or maybe they like having skin

I'm thrilled with my skin. I'm feeling pretty good. I think the alternative is not great It's not a bad sign though. If somebody starts running around saying man I love having this skin that is suspicious or we'll give him that or someone might have dosed him with some x That's true. Someone might or they might be a raver. They could be rave people. Here's here's what I need to get Here's what I if I had a question to ask him specifically it would be this You're contending that vince the caver vince who came up with the caver stuff Who was it? He did call him a caver though. Yeah. Yeah. He was okay So he called him vince the super creative guy who came up with calling people who live in caves cavers

Uh came to him. Yes as a caver handler. Yes and first acted like he was coming to this guy With marketing advice for the giant for the big giant flashlight presumably. Yes. What is your marketing plan? For the big giant flashlight. Hey, is your flashlight too small? We can help you. What else can it be? We can help you with that I don't know but Is this you oh, I can't see into space. Here's why this is brilliant though because Because he's laid just enough track to make it like, uh, uh, not believable certainly

Oh, of course not But like for someone like carry she can walk along with this because he's he's laid out like I was working on this This project and then I met this guy And all this and like he's not drawing straight lines between things So he could be saying like I was working on some other project and this guy was helping me market it But I keep bringing up his giant flashlight because there's another thing I was working on or something right? There's enough right. There's enough like confusion as to like Pronoun reference right right that he can just be like that's what that was

I was working on that Yeah, so um Have you ever thought to yourself? Why is it that I can't see venus all day every day? Will you sir need a big giant flashlight right? It with 28 million easy payments of 28 million dollars. Sure You can get a flashlight that spans the entire size of illinois and god damn it If you can't see all the goddamn planets in the sky. So, um, here is uh, here's how

Steve knew something was up beyond the guy loving skin and not speaking all that great english Here is uh, him explaining how he knew like these guys They're for real took his skin off. He had clearance that doesn't make any sense for a normal person. So that was pretty clear to be He's good at making stuff up He has clearance that doesn't make sense for a normal person That just means he's saying stuff like he's pretending to have access to like deep information like all of kary's guests Like anybody who talks to alex jones all of them are there It's that stolen valor for intelligence agencies. It's that thing. They so he's like impressed by this guy's ability to bullshit

Basically, that's what that's how I would read it. See what I hear is somebody who has clearance that no human being should ever experience Which suggests to me Who is giving clearance is all clearance coming from cavers And so human beings do not have any clearance really clearance flows uphill from the cavers. Okay. That's all right. All right But hold on this clip's not done. Okay, maybe that he really was some sort of cia something other something or other But um, he never came out and said that but the first day I met him He said something about silver he didn't even use the word silver. He's used non ferris metal

But I knew he was talking about silver Of course, you know non iron metal means silver. So That's just math. I don't understand how that sets off alarm bells Uh, this guy he never said he was cia, but I know he was because he had clearance that no mortal being should ever experience And he was talking about non ferris metals, which means he's cia and he's talking about silver Of course colloidal silver. Where else would you find silver in alex jones's fucking info wars store? There's a lot of parallels that i'm going to draw between alex and uh, this guy today I'm starting to see the the the science coming. This guy is one of the more info warzy adjacent people in project camo world

And it would do us a lot of benefit to uh, recognize some of the pieces and how similar they are So far what i'm hearing from this guy is that he's a far more like Like usually the the crazies that we get on project camo lot have a Everybody else is is doing all the all the fighting and all that stuff and we're focused on Expanding humanity and it seems like this guy is more interested in being like Oh, i'm about to kill some You know, he does like he's he's like the guy who he's like the the the blood guy Uh, yeah, yeah

I don't want to say too much. Okay. I don't want to say too much I just get the vibe from him that he wants to that he thinks he's the great warrior Not like not like just a guy who's trying to go to space like he's like I'm on the front lines fighting space battles for you. Yes. Yes. He does think that all right. He does think that uh, hard, uh, and it's crazy, but here in this next clip we find out how, uh How did steve wake up? How did he uh snap out of that programming where he's like a happy go lucky guy just working for the cia after Was it all that 2012 12 12 2012 stuff? It's not it's before that and i don't know how the timeline works on this, but uh

I don't know this might be when he was working on that flashlight At what point did you kind of sort of go down the rabbit hole? Uh, you know you and wasn't it your brother? Yeah, the brother was definitely involved, but but when you talk about going down the rabbit hole You know you talk about the getty. Let's just say that uh, the big wake up Which is everybody they think about the wake up the wake up moment Was sitting across the desk from the guy from the nsa guy when they they started telling me about, uh Slaughtering a village of people in in Honduras in the middle of the jungle and that's what I kind of snapped and realized that

I was working for people who weren't that nice and they were capable of Killing everything in a village And and I was really naive at that time because I thought we were one nation under God and we didn't do those things And it was the bad guys that did those things and I didn't and I thought you know my god The children and the and people in the village they were up There's obviously they didn't deserve to have that happen, especially there are animals and everything That's when I really snapped or so they told you about killing all the animals weird Weird weird. That's a strange

Also, I mean that's John wiki and who gives a shit if you kill a bunch of people you killed his dog Man, this guy was fucking alive during Vietnam. Yeah It was uh, that didn't wake him up. But yeah, I mean like also it was the system of a down song I believe that woke him up. No, that was uh disturbed. Yeah, that wakes people up. It's so loud Watch a little bit of Um, I don't know I think that if I were to take that if someone were to say that to me I would say you were living a very blissfully ignorant life before that right, but good

Also, you were working for the cia and the nsa as a subcontractor and this guy was the first time you were like Wait a second. I might be one of the baddies just because some guy was like, haha, we killed pigs and Honduras As he's eating a bacon sandwich. It's like wait, you can't kill pig. Oh But also the flip side of that that's super weird is like he's mad about killing people But seems to be like twice in that clip he mentions killing the animals is like, how could they do that? Like All right, whatever. Amen. Whatever could have joined pita could have joined the nsa could have gone either way So no big deal. So we heard there carry bringing up like wasn't it your brother?

And now yes, where did the brother come in? Does he have a brother? He apparently has a brother. I can't prove it, but That's the thing about these guys is that you have to prove literally everything. Otherwise. I don't believe I don't believe he has a brother Yeah, that's suspicious But in this next clip we find out about his brother a guy named jim. Who's another guy? uh also, uh was mentioned in a uh artifact recovered from egyptian black marketeers Absolutely. Yeah, um, and then like this story just This is so convoluted. Like I don't even know how to describe it But this is where we start to get into like him bringing in the uh the getty story

Uh and what what what the actual beats of it are. Okay, this is just nonsense As I went through the process of learning all these things and getting hooked up to billy mire and all this stuff again, billy mire And get he leaves my brother on everything and what happened is that He has a friend named don who worked with another guy

named jim And jim was a gifted uh account at cpa, but he also his father was a high ranking high level mason and uh mason's need account they killed the father And then when they killed the father they came to jim And they basically handed him the keys to the kingdom Which involved A box of Cuban cigars

Okay, a big a big expensive house. Yep A The job of trust fund manager for the getty museum another box of cigars and a whole bunch of other perks. Yep But uh these things, you know, you gotta understand it's like there's there is magic involved Oh That's a harsh turn that was a the keys to the kingdom seem very small. Yeah in the box of cigars nice house A menial job at the getty museum, right a whole bunch of other perks and also magic Well, we'll get to what he means by the magic stuff here in a second, but

I love first of all don and jim I'm loving the names. They just Don't come back up really. Um His brother does come back up This is brother went on a tour of the getty museum and saw a door that was weird and apparently caused a big uh Big fracas because he's like, why is that bomb door? Well, there's cavers I'm loving the names in the stories of our we got Vince the caver, right? We got don we got jim. We got steve

Like these are all the most mundane white dude names for a secret global conspiracy that has been going on since the dawn of time Yeah, so um, we'll get to this. Uh, I want to tell you a lot about steve But before we get there, uh, just because he brought it up in that last clip Let's uh, let him explain what he means by that magic stuff. Okay. Yeah, I want to know everything is about bloodline Everything is destiny because you got to remember you're talking about people that have uh Looking glass technology white and they know what you're gonna do before you do it They knew these people knew that I was going to invent a three beam laser Before I was even in the business

And they sat and waited it for it And when the day came that I finally actually invented it and designed it was sitting there at the drafting table drawing it They were standing behind me over my shoulder watching me do it And I knew it You should lock your doors You get you know, you can start to you you get good and you learn those things, but this is the other thing you said It's all about this psychic skill. All right, as you know this and sure and didn't you become a remote viewer? We'll get into that here

Thanks, kerry. So thanks kerry put his back on track. So I wanted to learn more about uh, steve And the three beam labor kelly steve and the three beam laser because he created this laser and what have you and I was like I want to find out what I can learn about it Which we know is a lot like light all of the bios that you can find for steve Yes on project cam lot style websites are all exactly the same Okay, and they're all clearly written by him. They just repeat what he says about himself like the cia Right, uh, and I say or whatever However, if you find these bios animal lover, they give you the name of his laser company

Uh-huh, which is sk industries, which gave me the jump-off point. I needed to learn more and now The research so oh shit with this is gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna sit back I'm just gonna let this wash over me. So with this information. I was able to dig up That on august 2nd 2000 Stephen d kelly filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy, which is liquidation. Yes of his company sk industries reflecting assets of 5,750 Dollars and liabilities of 12,661 dollars That is such a low-stakes laser company for a laser company

I don't even know if you could build a hand laser with it like a little a little pen laser with that little buddy Now I'll grant that like 5,750 dollars in assets is reasonable if you're an unsuccessful company But 12,000 dollars in liabilities is very low for any kind of company. Yeah that ends up in chapter 7 You usually end up with much higher amounts than that It sounds like you declared bankruptcy because his dad gave him a loan It's like 12 12th grade like his dad took out a home equity loan and he was like, I can't pay this back pops I I have other suspicions and that is that like I'm just gonna do this without a company That that sort of thing I'm gonna walk away from this and just liquidate it

So through this uh through this uh filing that I was able to find you're able to find the address of his company And I was able to cross-reference that for any information that might come up I was able to find a yelp page with one review on it God, I love you dad What this review is from november 4th 2010 and it reads quote crook exclamation point That's it stay away from this guy. He will take your money in part slash firearm and won't return it either He won't return phone calls or emails. He has a history of ripping off the public. Consider yourself warned So if it turns out

ripping off the public how with what it also why did why did firearm show up in the in the mix there Steve was selling weapons and weapon accessories. That's not good. That's what he was in the business of so so when he says No, no, no, he said when he he's when he said he will take your part slash firearm What he meant was This guy steve was was like, hey, I'm gonna put a laser on your gun Yes, and then he just kept the gun and probably sold the gun Okay, so if you look a little bit deeper you come across a bunch of threads on gun enthusiast message boards One of them

One of them begins quote has anyone done business with the laser manufacturer called sk industries I sent him and then parentheses steve kelly an hk 53 forearm, uh, and it's and 30 uh 350 dollars To mount his laser system three months ago. Now he's dropped off the radar So this person's concerned that he has just uh been bamboozled by steve right, which is what he has done And then so the uh responses are telling the first one. Yeah, I sent him 300 dollars for an ir laser And he never sent it I should have caught on when he was screening his calls, but I wanted the laser so bad I sent him the money anyway. Of course, he never answered another call another one quote

I sent him money for a laser in october after he got the money He stopped replying to emails and uh after a few phone calls. He stopped answering my calls He seems to be a very nice individual to talk to but it would seem he has no intention of supplying the products he advertises Another one. Oh, that's a really nice guy another one. These are all different people too It's a really if if you still get a shout out to how nice you are after you stole a guy's money Yeah, you're a nice guy uh quote seven months no reply unable to get any response from him Then the last one quote steve kelly burned me too I sent an mp5 dual laser info repair plus the surefire four end light assembly and he kept it

I'm out over a thousand dollars on this punk. He would not communicate in any way I sent a buddy over to his business just to get it back and the coward wouldn't even come to the door This s head has a lot of bad karma by or beware So he has a deep history. It appears of uh at least going back To uh, these reviews are all uh, generally from the like 2008 2009 yeah So, uh, he had this sk industries that uh liquidated in 2000 Of course, and then he appeared to be doing some shady dealing some weapons

And what have you and then it sort of caught up to him on some message boards people I'm not gonna lie to you. I uh, I I'm kind of fine with defrauding guys who want gun lasers. I'm I'm I'm I don't I don't I don't think I want these people having gun lasers. Yeah, exactly But at the same time, I'm pretty big on non-scams, you know, like pretty big on when you say you're gonna do something Uh, you do it as a business But the guy who if you're a guy who just randomly googles, who can put a laser on my gun? I'm kind of fine with you losing your gun. I'm super fine with it

But I think that he probably uh gets boosted credibility from I don't know. Hold on. I had a hey I'm not entirely sure if his career is a uh as a truth teller overlaps with his career as a gun scam artist I think that uh, uh, something happened in the late 2000s That led him to adopt a new career as someone who might end up on Carrie Cassidy's show 9 11 this no Okay, this is my working theory that the timeline of his life, uh, is such that, uh, He got in some trouble. Okay. All right. Let's hear this

But then also like I've I've found a bunch of other stuff and I I can't really I don't think it's him But there's another guy named Steve Kelly who owns a company called sk knives And like it's sk industries sk knives, right Kelly, right? But the Steve Kelly who owns sk knives is spelled k e l l y whereas he is spelled k e l l e y Okay, it doesn't appear to be the same person It's so wild that someone would be selling weapons right with this such a similar business name Do all Steve Kelly's sell weapons They must if you are a Steve Kelly who listens to this show, please send us an email

Now let's find it gmail.com and let us know what weapons you sell And do you make lasers for knives? So this is the preliminary stuff. I was able to figure out about him Um, it's sort of like his career Um, and then the other things I was able to find about him, which is this is really super fascinating to me. Um, I found his twitter I was scrolling Of course he has I was scrolling through his twitter stream What you see is essentially a version of all of alex jones's narratives, but without the fear of being sued Uh, instead of vaguely saying the globalists want your kids

Steve will tweet something about how they literally eat your children Of course instead of just saying like making a lie up about that california law about decriminalizing hiv right He just says that governor brown of california wants to give people aides because he's secretly gay Uh parent parent parenthetical in my own notes. He's been married to a woman for 13 years Um, secret also he'll tweet out stuff like a russia insider article with headlines like quote caesarean jews who run us foreign policy are the swamp Whereas alex will just sort of hint at that's what he thinks

Steve is willing to actually come out and say fuck you it's the jews that donald trump is against to get on board Steve isn't famous enough to get fucked over. Yeah. Yeah, or he doesn't have to worry about this right Right, right like 10 followers or whatever. He has more than that, but not many not much more Uh, he says all the same stuff as alex with less filter But what's fascinating is that along with that is a hatred of all of the info wars adjacent people All right, he recently posted an article about how jerome coursey is a massade agent All right, he hates craigsawyer fair and but it seems like he's fine with alex himself That is really weird. This is weird. He seems to be okay with alex. There's a whole story here that I need to know

I'm not entirely sure. Oh Uh, the other thing that I was able to find out is that, um Steve kelly Well, he plays up his cia credentials. Uh-huh Um, he was the one if not the only person He was one of the main people one of the first people to come forward publicly and make the argument that the us created isis I mean even the crazy person nails it every now and again. Well, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay Are you you're not you're not saying you're not saying that he created the power vacuum that led to the creation of isis

You're saying that he actually that he believes that america actually isis is a shadow army for us All right. All right. All right. He would uh, he he did so in interviews on the only only channels that would ever have him on Russia today, of course and press tv the state-owned channel in iran Wait, this guy is going on the state-owned channel in iran. Yep. Absolutely. All right. All right. He made the claim as early as 2014 on press tv and the clip immediately Made the rounds on the right-wing blogosphere even posted on the facebook group of we are change the ron pol adjacent 9 11 group With deep ties to alex jones is past of course There's an almost zero percent chance that i would believe that alex did not get the narrative that the us created isis

Indirectly from steven kelly And the same is probably true about donald trump. Where do these fucking guys come from they come from giant Flashlight works. How is it? How is it? Why oh god damn it dan? We just got to turn heel We got to be evil. I think we got to be evil. All right. Look at how this is fuckers life worked out Yeah, but imagine the day-to-day. I bet it's rough. You got weirdos who want their guns back banking on your door you gotta You got to keep coming up with new eyes. All right. That's true. You know, that's true. I don't know So, um at this point, uh, kerry has asked him. Hey, you're a remote viewer, right? Uh, that's here's yeah, that's right. Why?

Here's his response. Okay, sure. Um, didn't you become a remote viewer? Well, you know, we're all remote viewers. We're all skilled I didn't really study. I just had to do it. Okay, you printed the way just This is how it works If you want to do it, you have to ask to be able to do it Okay, whatever tool that is that you need to do the mission that you're doing You have to ask for the permission first thing you do is ask for permission to do the mission To be part of the mission and then you say thank you and then you say please give me everything

I need to complete the mission including the protection and the tools and the skills and whatever And so if remote viewing It's really not that hard to do. Okay I don't I don't know what do you when he when he explained how to do remote viewing I don't think he did his explanation was well, you just got to ask to do it. Mm-hmm who To whom do you ask? I mean, I don't believe that remote viewing is real So I have trouble with that But I will say that I think that psychologically what he's describing is a really effective tool

Because like I think that a lot of times we have ingrained, uh blockers in terms of productivity in terms of getting anything done So a lot of a lack of shamelessness. Well, no, I don't even mean that I mean like even in terms of like Motivation and stuff like that. So like if you want to get in shape or you want to exercise or something like that Oftentimes it does help to create some sort of like, uh, you know, uh Make the declaration outside of yourself somehow right right like tell people you're gonna do it But like create some sort of like, uh, mystical experience about favors may I you know, please give me the strength to exercise Whether you call it if you want to lose weight you go to the Getty Museum. Well, you lay a uh

An offering at the secret door. So you're talking ask politely to the cavers You're talking shit. And I was just trying to make a positive Out of a negative. I know I know I'm sorry for being a dick again Well, no, there's just like there is a way to to validate your own experience by pretending to externalize it And I think that there's something valuable in that I think you can get a lot out of it Like I've I've experienced it even in the last like a couple Like month or so. Yeah, like the power of uh, like telling yourself that you're going to remember something like for me For me, it's like, uh, I have a very difficult time motivating myself to when I wake up in the morning write down my dreams

Yes, but it's something that I I think is very valuable in terms of Uh, you know the path towards being able to lose a dream again. Like I could when I was younger Yes, it's very difficult to find that motivation But somehow I found that it's much easier if I tell myself and I make this commitment This non-verbal commitment as if it were to some divine authority, right? I'm going to remember my dreams or allow me to remember my dreams Right. I don't think it's someone actually giving me permission to but there's some sort of psychological Um

Jump so this is kind of like the AA's Surrender yourself to a higher power 100 situation even if it is a made up nonsensical 100 percent. There's power in that I don't think that there's any I don't I don't think there's even a mystery about it, right? Like I don't I don't think it's I I don't know There's power and surrender to some extent to some extent. Yeah, I don't know I I understand what I understand what you're coming from. Stop worrying about it, right? Right, right, but I also don't think you can remote view. So that's a problem I think that's all crazy

Um, maybe you just haven't submitted to a power high enough yet. Yeah, that's possibly true. Cavers go to the Getty Museum So now we're gonna get into the Getty Yes, finally gonna get into the Getty. Thank you. Um, but I should tell you that as we get into this Listen to something at the beginning of this clip that is very alex jonesy I'll pause it when it happens The bloodline is kind of a generalization because there's different sorts of um Genetic there's the uh, there's gene memory talking about white race memory. Yeah, there's gene memory. Yep Cellular memory and then there's also reincarnation so you can have different variations of the stuff

But the thing about my brother Is for for quite some time My brother don during this recruitment process with weird briefing gym I mean somewhere into the process where we were briefing Jim. They realized that Jim was getting briefed And it was when So real quick during the process of us briefing Jim. Jimmy they The cavers the cavers realized we were briefing Jim. Yes, we probably might have just told them make no, uh mistake He hasn't explained more of what he means by this. I'm not I'm not throwing you in the deep end. Okay, but so here here

We had the remote viewer the first remote viewer go down there into the getty and see what was down there They they know that they knew that happened because these guys have like One of the first levels that you run into when you go down there is kind of like a Hogwarts if you will it's it's like a university for Uh people super soldiers. Okay. It's a super soldier university sort of Magician black arts or the whole nine yards all that stuff And their job is to go do all these Magical things but at the same time they're also acting as a security They're supposed to prevent people like me or whoever from going down there. Sure and causing trouble

Yep Now they're not always able to do anything. They're certainly able to see you but they uh They alerted. Okay. So in other words when we first made that first excursion down there almost immediately Uh alarm bells went off and they all knew that this happened And we were confronted this this is when things got really serious. No, it didn't. No, they didn't They absolutely didn't I don't I don't understand so that if I understand correctly the timeline is They were briefing jim, right? All right. That means they're just talking to it. They're like hey jim check this shit out Hey jim. I had a weird thought. Yeah. All right. So jim is briefed. Yep, and then they're like shit

We got a remote view this place. Yes. So they go to the first remote viewer which I should say is actually a lady We find out. Oh, that's Gender diversity is great. I found this out because I watched another lecture of his Find out it's a lady who also might be a witch Okay. All right. All right. All right. So the remote viewer gets down into the getty gets only to the first level A university very similar to hogwarts that trains both super soldiers. Well similar to the movie soldier and or black magic witches as well as I should tell you and of course the whole nine yards, which I think essentially means everything

Yeah, everything except for that last yard. Um, so I um, never gonna get a first down at that university I need to be clear. Yes. He's never been to the getty He's never been to the getty. Yeah, they've just had never even been there. They've just had remote viewers go down there and make stuff up So I watched this lecture. Why would he go? He doesn't need to he's already seen it all I watched this lecture that he gave about the getty from 2012 Uh, and from the 2012 1212 it was from a convention. It might have been carries. I don't think it was but uh, I'll say that we had a better audience in austin than this

The turnout was thin at this uh, this convention and here's the things I learned about the getty from that Yeah, the first level down when you go in because you got to get past the security doors and what have you Yeah, it's not a university according to his lecture in uh, 2012. Okay It's uh, the first level is full of nazi remote viewers who are there to stop other remote viewers from getting in quote They're not very good at it though. He says as he laughs to himself and the audience does not join in his laugh He's just sitting there like they're not very good though No, god, it made me so fucking uncomfortable. But there's nazi remote viewers at the first level now. Hold on The second level don't understand the second level is a decadent spa covered in gold

They're They're unimaginable depravity goes on. It's just like of course it's like bacchanalia Do they allow the nazis in on the weekends? I think there's some nazis involved, but not the nazi remote viewers They have to stay on the first level I mean, that's that's unfair. They're employees. Look even even nazi remote viewers deserve labor rights They're employees. You should be allowed to enjoy the bacchanalia. You don't go to the fucking gold spa So after this point

What's the third level after that his details get real murky Turns out the nazi remote viewers are a little bit better at security than you think The next level is full of elevators question mark unclear Elevators question mark. There are condos for the rich down there and he even says this which I find dubious This is a quote. Uh-huh. Uh, half of the gross domestic product of the country goes into building these condos That seems High so that's like that's like what 1.1 trillion dollars something like that's quite a bit That seems like that's a lot for a condo. It seems like literally everything else. Uh, that's done would be

Impossible if that right case. Well, it's weird. You think that medicare Social security medicaid make up Two-thirds of the national budget, but that's not true. Uh-huh. Uh, it's underground Cavour condos. Absolutely. So below the living areas are a bunch of tube trains that go to go to various air force bases Of course research centers and let me check my notes here Catalina island I That's my favorite my favorite part is always the weird detail. They always throw in one very specific

Weird detail no explanation for why one of the trains goes to a popular honeymoon destination resort island There's always one detail. So I was watching this it's crazy like it's a really it's a crazy lecture And they're it's actually kind of worth it if you've ever done stand-up It's kind of fun to watch. Yeah, because you get to watch a guy who's like on his home turf He's in like a fucking ufo magic convention or whatever still bombing. Oh god. He bombed so hard You can feel the audience leave him at about the 15 20 minute mark and you could just see the you could feel the energy Sucked out of the room entirely. Yeah, and just him walking around with his shitty ponytail like oh, no

I gotta I gotta really impress these people He's supposed to talk about the getty He only talks about it for maybe like 10 minutes of his 35 40 minute lecture Most of it's just rambling about how things could be better. Like yeah, okay So he's proof that he gives about the getty Uh, and that he's been there and shit like that. I don't understand why because he says that he hasn't been there He's just remote viewed it. Uh, right. He says that he has a lot of pictures of the place But they can't show any of them because they're copyrighted

But he has them what? That means that he has pictures of the art Maybe that is the weakest of teas sir. Well the getty. Get a museum. I reject your weak tea The getty museum is full of art and stuff like that. So maybe has pictures of paintings and stuff to get to those What? What I can text you a photo of me in front of a fucking painting. Yeah, totally. That's fine. Yeah, it's garbage It's hot garbage, but it's a good. I mean it plays in the room Um, and then so his only do the cavers control copyright laws is my next. They must I thought it was dis I thought it was disney

But apparently that's not the case It actually is a caver right not copyright. Oh, that's that's in that scene Um, so his other piece of physical evidence and I will say this He offers no other physical evidence than pictures. He can't show and then he pulls out of his pocket a parking ticket That sells it that he says comes from some point in 2000 something and that he's claiming is from before The museum is open like during the day Okay, and that it says em and that means employee. I don't know that em means employee I don't know what that I don't give a shit

He also says that it's from 10 30 and that's before the museum opens because he says it opens at 11 According to the internet the getty museum opens at 10 doesn't it open it opens at 10 So I don't know what that means. I just I He so wait it's a parking ticket or like he like a cop like a cop gave him a ticket or like a chunk ticket Oh, okay, okay a parking pass kind of ticket But it's still like a little piece of paper that at that point would have been 10 years old I don't know it doesn't prove anything to me anyway What it proves is he's a weird dude for carrying that around with him all the time

You don't need that to prove that he's a weird no, I was I was I was on I was on board with everything else But up until this point now I'm out So he was sent this lady witch that we've discovered right from other materials Who was the remote viewer down there and then her name is jane the hogwarts nazi level that is before the spa Uh cock her and it set off all sorts of alarms and that you just wrote the greatest fan fiction I've ever heard which is hogwarts nazis and that jordan is where things got serious Yes, that's what it got serious. They feared for their lives, but things went a different way What happened instead of trying to kill us they actually this is when they actually tried to recruit us

um By this time obviously they realized that jim was was dealing with some people on the outside that were Trouble and Should never have briefed in front of him and they said you stop dealing with those people right now and he said No, no, uh, you want me on your team? This is my team these people are my people and if you want me you my people come with me Are you following that so far? I'm not sure isn't jim just being briefed on this No, he okay. No, this is a little bit after all that briefing and what I don't fucking know

Okay, what he's saying is that the cavers they they know jim they're hanging with jim. Why are they hanging with jim? Anyways, I'll skip that part jim. We'll just move on for that may or may not be that accountant who's involved with the cavers Again a talented accountant So he's uh because he also his dad was a mason and he got the keys to the kingdom Which was a box of cigars whatever you who knows nice house magic. Oh, yeah, and job with the getty. Oh, yeah That's exactly he's on the inside. So he does it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm now I'm falling So the get the the cavers are like you're working with some weirdos Yes, it's like it's like yeah, but they're my weirdos you want me you take them and they're like we are

Controlling the Illuminati. What bargaining power do you think you have jim jim? Oh, are you that talented of an accountant? This is like that scene that you have in so many movies where it's like the gang wants one guy And you got to bring my nerdy friend in right you want me or right and that that except the nerdy friend is jim Who's a cpa this doesn't happen in the real world what happens in the real world is they? gang kills your friend and then it's like you're in That was that was the way he approached it. So they said fine So then they went and went into a recruitment

Effort so the first thing they tried to do again They thought my brother was me because they were trying to figure out who it was it was supplying with all this information And they they ran all sorts of tests on psych psychic testing and sort of thing and my brother of course is psychic He's not quite as developed as I am of course. There was enough there for them to think they had something going on And the first thing they do is they offer a military rank They they give you a rank of say like a major or something like that air force air force major they give that a rank and that's the They do that so that they've got you contractually You can't you know develop secrets they can throw you in leavenworth or something after that

But it was some time after that they found out that it was actually me. We were having dinner And they this is when the guy trust fund manager guy at the getting realized it was actually I was the one they were looking for And they told my brother that he was a pale shadow of me, which is something he'll never forgive me for but But anyway, so it's okay. This is the thing. It's like a neo thing. All right. Yeah, he also told me That I would be the one To destroy them and that this would be through an assault on the getty And and when this was actually he told me that I was also in a very militaristic mood

I was in a gun business. I was uh in an advanced weapon development Then and training and I actually was I didn't I'm not gonna say I had a militia But let's just say I had a lot of young guys underneath me who were Of that nature sounds like you got a militia. It was an orgy dad He's got a lot of young guys coming under him. Uh That is fucking scary as shit. So So there's a lot to unpack there psychologically perhaps too much. There is one That dude is so jealous of his brother. Undoubtedly. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's another one of those weird things

They always throw in that weird like there's always the weird detail of like, oh and it goes to the fucking island of catalina Sure, why the fuck not also my brother isn't a psychic is me So I don't know why my parents love him more than they do me I'm trying to I I fucking love you guys too. I look at me. I've been stealing guns That's what I I can bring Psychic powers all over the place. I'm good at it. I'm so good at it. Yeah, and then also Underground cavers who control the Illuminati. Yes, and the entire world all of it. Uh are still offering military rank

In order to avoid Throwing you in leavenworth prison. It seems like it'd be very easy to disappear you Like it wouldn't like you literally are in a cave. Yeah Why would you send somebody all the way back up and be like, all right So they've seen our underground cave that no one has ever seen before and that they can never come back to But we're gonna put them in leavenworth There is definitely an in for a penny in for a pound. Yeah, right. Come on, man, but then also it's really funny I don't have any clips of this but back when he was talking about the

Reptiles that he used to work with he's like they kept trying to lure me to area 51 They kept trying to lure but I've heard lure, but I've heard that if you go there you never come out like fuck off Actually, they they said they have an underground tunnel to leavenworth. They absolutely do There's one to leavenworth one to katalina they go both ways the thing that we don't need to unpack is that steve was running a fucking militia I thought we were gonna unpack the dog whining in the background. Oh, no, that's kerry's dog. Yeah, she keeps saying like i'm sorry Yeah, you know whatever It's a little annoying kerry's dog is like this is bullshit. Stop it. This guy's lying. This guy's full of shit Even the dog knows. Oh, man, uh, that would be a great episode of lassie

I would uh, I would I would like to unpack that more but at the same time. I realized that like what? Project camelot has shitty production values Great Yeah, we nailed it. We got him. So um in this next clip, uh, we get steve uh blowing hard steve and revealing Um, a very alex jonesy mentality about himself Remember in this clip, uh, all the times alex jones has said that I could have been one of them Oh, that's easily easily. They offer it all the time in this clip. We see steve embody that I've given up this whole

elitist underground Masonic where god's on earth thing To try to save the people on the surface because Obviously, we don't deserve to be treated like expendable cattle like that's what they think of us So I've given all up for the for everybody else, but now we're actually winning because as I've said so so many times If we actually can occupy the getting we actually can open that pandora's box I don't even have to tell you what's down there because once that box gets open We will have paradise on earth paradise. We'll have free energy

no pollution green food No more chemtrails vaccines Sure, you name it So all of that is very much like alex especially the last part you name it. Yep, which is one of alex's verbal What else you got that leads me to believe that it's possible that steve even listens to info wars Oh, yeah, the idea that he's like all this you name it. Hey, hey, so that's what's your what's your what's your thing? We don't want vaccines. We don't want chemtrails. What do you got? What's your fear?

I mean, we already have green food toss a little fear in there What do you feel like one but if I didn't name your fear you can tell that it's in the It's in the it's whatever you you name it. It's down there. You name it Yeah, all the vaccines very much in line with the info wars in mentality also He believes that they have tesla technology and they've just hoarded it down there Uh, he proves that in no way like nicola tesla or ilan musk tesla Uh, nicola nicola tesla. No, I don't think he doesn't bring up musk because I don't think anybody really has tesla technology

Including ilan musk if you see your stark power boy. Howdy. I'm out boy. Howdy that fucking guy. What a mess Why would he ruin grimes for me? You know what I'm saying? I don't I feel like you're uh a mess I feel like that's Perhaps the least of The issues you should have with that. No rhymes. All right fair enough Um, so I told you earlier that although there are these shocking similarities to info wars and to alex jones Yes, uh, he hates

Info wars people like the actual people. Yeah, here's what he has to say about craig soyer And then now we've got got so many soyer and these idiots out in the twosan trying to make everybody think that Human trafficking is something that happens Walking across the sand in the desert Wow, wait, is he talking about backyard brawl? He is he's tossing out backyard brawl It turns out that the internet conspiracy community has turned on that And is now pretty 100 behind the idea that that is a diversion From real child trafficking, which I guess happens on boats. I'm not entirely sure

But they uh, they but they've turned on sawman Uh, they because it came up in his bio, uh that he has worked uh as like protection detail For like hillary clinton Right a couple other suspect people right right right and so everyone's like, oh, he must be fucking cointel pro And so now he is Sure sure he is a persona nongrata. I guess that's okay. I don't know. I don't know how to feel about that It's one of those can't they all go away? It's one of those things that I take I take no pleasure in the like

The rats eating each other because the ones that survive are tougher than yeah, or whatever. Yeah Yeah, and the no, I know exactly what you mean when two con artists go up against each other and one prevails They get a boosted false sense of credibility for having vanquished a con man Right when it just is like I am a more reinforced con man. I just I don't I don't know. I I wish they'd all shut up, but that's not an option. It's the it's the highlander theory of con men some when you when you Kill another con man you gain their power. Yeah, and eventually there can be only one who experiences the quickening And then I don't remember the actual end of that show or movie

Well in highlander, do they win come back to life other ones? I don't know who cares. Um, I do I don't know. I was just reflecting on like the uh Highlighter no I'm just like how like he's from Egypt, but he has a Scottish accent that doesn't make sense at all And why is he using I don't think he's egyptian No, no, no the the highlander is scottish connery, but connery is supposed to be from egypt I don't think he's supposed to be from he's supposed to be from egypt dude. Look it up. It's bananas That'll be our next episode, but for now

We get a very rare Yes on project camelot. Uh, kary saying that's dumb the guest and kary casady getting into a disagreement Oh, I'm just going to say that because I know you titled this thing alien base. It's not an alien base It's definitely a human made base. However However When you consider All right, then there's this Um, I you know, I actually made to differ it is an alien base them, but

Well, it may be a joint uh base with uh with humans. All right. This is what's important Is that there's a satanic Aspect to all of this stuff Right, that's that and people right this is where people get confused because it's just like I did an interview earlier today And it's they said well, what's the deal with the aliens and the demons? All right, here's the conspiracy theorists and cars getting coffee I I what I want to hear

These so Oh give it to me or if they just let them be guests on like Tonight show. Oh man. Oh watch fallon try and deal with this amazing Fallon would crush these interviews because fallon if fallon is essentially the mainstream carry Cassidy That's really all he is. He is there to smile and make you feel like you're the greatest He's the low rent carry. Exactly. He can't hold a candle to carry. Cassidy. No, he probably doesn't even believe there's alien bases I'm not sure carry does at this point. She's uh, no, she does. Yeah, she absolutely does. She doesn't believe they're human She's the one she will act that it is she will admit that perhaps they are indeed satanic

But i'll be god damned if you say that they're not alien. No, but now we get into uh, as this clip goes on Uh, a very familiar idea that we've debunked a number of times Uh, that has its roots in blood libel and archaic anti-semitism. Uh, we will get into it. Uh, it actually, um Steve is not only into it. He takes it a step beyond uh, it uses a really funny word A connection Loosh Human human negative human emotional psychic energy Right, right. All right. This is wait. I might have to go back a little bit loose. I think I say loose

I think I accidentally jump forward. I might have to go back. Hold on a second Humans. All right. This is what's important Is that there's a satanic Aspect to all of this stuff. Right. That's that and people this is where people get confused because it's just like I did an interview earlier today and they said well, what's the deal with the aliens and the demons? All right, here's the connection Loosh Loose human

Loose Oh What is the connection dad? Loose in the aliens and the demons loose. It's loose. Shut your stupid mouth. It's loose. Yeah, come on. Everyone. Are you sure it's not loose? They both enjoy uh, they both enjoy a little they hate skeleton, but they love loose. Everyone knows it's loose. It's loose negative human emotional psychic energy Right, that's best. This is what it's all about. Well, the people they talk about, you know, they're they're collecting these babies And they're stealing these humans and all this so they can collect dorina chrome and torch rum and drink their blood and everything else

Well, yeah, yeah, they do all that There is something else that they collect which is not of this Level loose third level that we're on. It's actually of a higher level. Of course and it is the Product that is being collected from us by the higher level entities these aliens if you will And they require that is nutrition blood. They use the AI which people like to recall the black goo There's a uh, this was a device actually which is used for transitioning this third dimensional Or this this product this fourth density product from a fourth density person into this

Realm of the 4d where it is stored and collected Uh, this is the sort of thing people are having a hard time understanding Obviously, most people are not quite there. They're starting to understand their understanding things like a dorina chrome But they're certainly far from understanding luce It's tough to understand luce dude You know on these on these project camelot episodes. I love entertaining And and like trying to follow follow the the thread on that to an extent that was a man Shitting words out of his mouth and it was pathetic and he should be ashamed of himself

You like to humor stuff to an extent that's wildly frustrating for me Uh, because it's like I I like I like it. I like it to a point then it's like You got it. You got it. You're like a hound dog for faking agreement with these guys Um, but this is too far. That's but no, it's not it's not that it's too far It's that he sucks at it. That was shit. That was bad. He was clearly scrambling and he was just making bullshit up That's why you lost the crowd 20 minutes into his lecture six years ago. That's bad. He has no showmanship Because that's something they don't teach apparently in the caver world They don't need to it's in the caves, but um, so what do you know about? Are we all do I know about luce?

I don't know anything about luce. Well, I know everything. There you go. I don't know much about luce It comes from a novel uh a fictional book uh by a guy named robert monroe called far journeys Okay, and it it's just it's lived on and is retained as an idea of negative human emotions. It's the same thing alex talks about like uh Psychic vampires and stuff like that. Uh, they would oh this is monsters ink. Yes It's monsters ink. That's what he's describing luce. They got luce. Okay. They're looking for luce. Got it Little do they know they could just make people laugh didn't they didn't they you see that movie? Yeah What is wrong with the cavers would have saved uh saved us a lot of trouble soon the illuminati knew about the

All the monsters ink although to be fair this guy is creating a lot of laughs Um, so I mean we've gone over the adrenochrome stuff before uh about how people have done tests on it How high it can get you I'm bored. I'm bored with adrenochrome right and how that all dates back to blood libel All that shit now. I'm excited about luce. I want to try some of that We can't it's in the fourth dimension. Oh god damn it density as it were What is that? What does that even mean? We're gonna get back to that in a minute. Uh, okay And we'll talk about that a lot Because I know exactly where that's coming from. Okay, uh, but it's it's uh, it's interesting because

Like you just have all this non non falsifiable non verifiable stuff It's like there's black goo that works as a transmitter between our world and the fourth density And of course it takes all this negative stuff and brings it over there the stockpile and need to eat Why wouldn't it right? It's just like that makes perfect sense. All right, man. I watched I watched x files too whatever Um, so then we get we get uh, we we'll move on because we'll get back to the densities Here in a bit. Yes. I would like to know which density is which we're in the third But we'll get back to it here in a second because we got to talk about demons. Okay, but it is also Something that is associated with what we would call demons

And this goes back to lileth Which is essentially what we would refer to as the mother of demons who was uh, according to Oh History is adam's first wife Now believe it or not People think they attribute all sorts of activity on earth to lucifer. Well, it's not really lucifer per se. It's actually lileth So real quick, right? Everybody knows that the reason that lileth is seen as evil

Uh, it is because she has control over her own sexuality. She was not subservient to adam Yeah, they were pretty pissed off about that in the uh in the apocrypha So it tracks that uh, this guy would be like she's actually the devil Because uh, she would not be subservient. It's just like it's just like when women tell uh, me what to do Or do what they do without asking me or don't do what I tell them to do. It's like What could that be but the devil super cool. There's no other explanation spoiler alert I did a little bit of looking into I got down a wormhole Looking at the line-ups from the lileth fair. I knew you would because of this you would and uh, 1997 the first lileth fair

Uh, uh, a couple of a couple people I really like I got their start on the like winning local Contests and getting to be on the side stage Dido was on the side stage there you go of the 1997 lileth fair before like white flag All right, thank you or any of those songs came of course also lauren hoffman great Super awesome singer-songwriter lady. Uh, yeah, anyway, who cares? There's a bunch. There's so many people that like uh, awesome Female musicians. Yeah that just pop lileth fair is great. No, I understand But you have those like big name folks and then a ton of people who like you had no idea were involved with it Before they were big. Yeah crazy. Yeah, also little trivia

Little fair trivia 1997. Yes for the tour Yeah, it was the only act to perform on every date other than uh, sarah mclochland Wait on the lileth fair tour. Yes Um, all of them were tours. I I didn't realize that I'm gonna go with jim the cpa Incorrect. No, okay. Yeah, it was all ladies bros. I was all Suzanne vega I did not know that the singer of tom's diner Don't do that don't do that that song gets inside everybody's head forever and then also luka

She lives on the seventh floor. She's the one up luka bras the one you try to ignore. Oh, okay, uh, man, that's a brutal song Back to the So when you talk about these underground basses This is the thing that I really wanted to get to is that the getty when we go down under the getty, you don't There's a point where we stop Okay, then we don't go any farther. It's called the bottom And then and maybe the day will come when we can go farther, but we're not I don't know anybody that's gone past this point yet And this is a really awful point. This is the point where

They're doing the really nasty shit Yeah So I don't know what the hell's down there, but when you talk about aliens. Yes, that's probably where they are They're probably down there below that level but we don't really so So wait the cavers aren't aliens It's unclear

There's a mix demons. I don't know look What he's saying there just because we got to parse it out a little bit is I can't bring myself to imagine the next level Right, I know that I would have to say some who am I Dante come on I have to come up with some really fucked up specifics and I don't really want to do that Yeah See now this is where you call in alex because alex can come up with your your horrible fucking nightmare scenarios Your own alex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, too bad. Jim can't be that or uh, let go and do it Jim was a great cpa though. You got to give him that is true

He was really talented hard to come by It's you just don't see that kind of talent in the cpa game. So again just to reinforce this so in terms of You you you do a lot of this by remote viewing if you want to call it that But you as far as going there in person. Did you go there exactly once or did you go there more than once? When you say go there are you talking about going underground and just visiting the art No I mean going underground, uh, you know, you guys didn't you sneak in underground?

One time Am I mistaken or no, no, no, that was a tour. That was actually a tour. That was my brother went on a tour with uh okay Who does not have the same psychic powers that I do is a pale shadow of me not even close to that He'll never forgive me for saying that but I just got to let you know my brother went on a tour I Don't I'm struggling. I don't know that's it. So yeah, that that just to reinforce he's never been there That's my that is the closest we will get to a full-on carry Cassidy dig

No later later wait wait wait. Oh, okay. Are we gonna get a better one? He makes a cardinal sin No her her saying So when you're remote viewing or if you want to call it that is such a like it's such a slight like You don't know what I know. You know what you are not doing what I know Other people are doing. I'm noticing you're full of shit noticing a slight trend where kary doesn't quite trust remote viewers Because she's kind of being shitty to him and then that episode with kourtney brown that we did She was she clearly had had enough of his bullshit right right She was done with that noise

There is a sense that like she doesn't think that everybody who remote views is telling the truth or knows what they're doing It's it's like it's like it's a strange line to draw one thing that she is You don't even have physical fake proof right right, you know like you're just you you might just be making this up You didn't even bother to take a photo of your tv and redo it. You are pathetic, but he's in with billy Ah Belly's a remote viewer. Anyway, um in this next clip we find out that these cavers They've been planning forever. Maybe thousands of years all of their plans. Yep And they know

The the day will come that they might get found out of course um, and they have a plan for that and uh, this makes me believe Steve's story way less and You see this the thing is that they've been planning for this For hundreds of years. This is obviously this What we're dealing with is a and I don't want to use the word conspiracy But the people that we're dealing with here call it a conspiracy have been working on this for thousands of years and the

planning and the building of the undergrounds uh Are also equally equally ancient and they've been planning for for Since day one that when the day comes that we rise up and confront them that they will destroy everything and try to Well, not destroy the bunker the bunker but destroy the entrances and take us out with them and interesting shit plan um, why from day one

Which first off which day one? We talking thousands of years ago, but like Like biblical day one likes like eight thousand years. Like what are we talking about day one? Are we talking about a big bang day one? Are we talking about when they were created or or when they evolved or or i'm just gonna let you work this out Or or like i just want to know more about this day one which day one and if your plan Includes we're building this thing to fucking chill and have a good time But we at the same time know old covered spa

No, yeah, then eventually the day will come when they will come knocking on our door And we'll have to burn all the entrances if you can see that far in the future Why can't you see a future where you don't have them knock on your door? Maybe don't even fucking bother Well, I can tell you because I watched his lecture about this. I have a little bit more context. Okay Uh, here's a quote from that lecture about this I'm lying. There's a book written about a hundred years ago very very controversial book You're not even allowed to talk about it or they'll practically throw you in jail just for mentioning it in public

None dare call it book and in that book there's a chapter with a line and that line essentially says quote What fear do we have of the blank? None if we have an awesome weapon the undergrounds the metropolitans He goes on to poorly quote giant flashlights. He goes on to quote a passage and this passage It's from the protocols of the elders of zion No, yes, no, he can't be a pest dispenser. Oh, he's a big one God dammit God dammit his whole idea comes from protocols. Why does it come back to being a pest?

Always god dammit So this is the product. This is protocol number nine. Uh, this is from that that he's working off of And when he says blank, he's just he doesn't want to in the room say say juice No gollum gollum because that's the word he's clearly blanking out gotcha because he doesn't want to make it Clear what he's talking about right in the lecture, right? But the the quote from protocols it quote You may say that the gollum will rise upon us arms in hand if they guess what is going on before the time comes But in the west we have against this maneuver of such an appalling terror that the very stoutest hearts quail

The undergrounds metropolitans those subterranean corridors, which before the time comes Will be driven under all the capitals and from whence those capitals will be blown into the air with their organizations and archives The fact that he says the undergrounds metropolitans He references at the end the organizations and archives like it's very clear. This is directly the quote That's a pest dispenser. So a little bit later in the uh, in the lecture Such a bummer dan and no it it gets so much worse a little bit later in the lecture He says this quote that passage is from the protocols of the elder's eye on there. I said it I'm not an anti-semite. I have a lot of jewish friends. Yeah, you are this book was written over 100 years ago

And it's totally accurate. Sorry for going off on a tangent like that Yeah Yeah, wow. So he believes Without any proof except for uh, dubious remote viewing and uh, Passages from the protocols of the elders of zion and also never having gone to the getty museum, which I have been to Fantastic. Yeah, it's great. It's great. Man. The history of the getty museum is fucking crazy. So good Just a super rich dude who's like i'm gonna start amassing art and then he's like Well, I need a bigger space to put all this fucking art and then he died and they turned it into a giant museum

Fantastic, and then his fucking grandkids kidnapped or some shit Eh, fuck they made that movie with kevin spacey and then had to get kevin spacey out of it and put christopher plumber in it Yikes, uh, that's now. That's what the jews were playing Could be could be The protocols what's weird about the pez is that people don't know is that it's all about taking down the spacey That's what it's always been about kevin Spacey fourth dimension freak out densities

Freak out all in there. I promise you will get back to densities um So the idea is that once Humanity finds out right then they will blow it up And then it'll kill all the people who are trying to get in along with the people down there Which again if I had thousands of years of planning and magical abilities I think I could probably come up with a better plan. You could pull it off teleportation. Let's throw that in there make things invisible Uh brain control that would happen. I don't know any of these things magic. Yeah, you could just use magic

Right really the thing about magic is that the only constraint is your imagination and the people who talk the most about Magic and it being real tend to have zero imagination when it comes to planning. You know it'd be so easy You magic you wouldn't need to blow anything up just release gas or something like that That would work. So anyway, why are we so much better at being evil than evil people Dan because I'm telling you Because the like he's not evil. He's a manipulative liar like the evil people in this situation are made up He's imagining fake evil people that he's working against right We can do better than the shadows in his mind That's true because he's crazy and is a guy who rips people off who want lasers on their guns

And because we're not as jealous of our brothers And I am my brother's got an awesome ice cream shop. Go check it out. It's called betty rays If you're ever in kids of city make the best ice cream this side of the mississippi second location opening soon But i'll tell you what psychic powers Can't compare to yours. Oh, absolutely not even close. I don't think david can uh, I don't know if he'll ever forgive you for saying I don't think he's ever lucid dreamed. Maybe yes. We haven't seen there. We go. Anyway, I don't think that's a psychic ability I think it's just a function of memory and uh, Anyway, yeah, the idea is they're gonna blow it up

But if they're gonna blow it up, they need an excuse do they well hear me out Because I feel like they own it you can't just blow up something in los angeles without an excuse This is where trump comes in Hold on This is the thing this is i'm gonna get into the real life drama right now the uh Donald trump is meeting in indonesia with kim And obviously they want to end the nuclear episode, but what's really going on behind the scenes is that The cia was using kim jong-un and north korea as an excuse

The whole time or a scapegoat for when the time came to blow up the getty They were going to blame it on north korea and north korean submarine So donald trump is basically removing that And uh, what what else is happening right now is that not only is he making peace with north korea so that they can't use that excuse as a Right, you know Precipitation of some sort of event. Of course at the same time I'm getting through channels coming from coming down from the white house actually that uh They're actually talking about the getty right now and they're talking about the nuclear trap door at the getty

So right so I suspect that the reason why we don't have the marines crashing down the door And the reason why we don't have don trump out there saying okay What's up with the getty is that they are aware of the nuclear bomb and they're aware of the politics and the uh You know the you know You know the whole thing they're aware of it So his conception is that there's a nuclear blast door and also a nuke down there right that they're going to set off right if and when uh Steve and his militia get together and storm the doors

They're going to set off a nuke in order to I don't know get rid of all the evidence of satanic temples grounds below this It would yeah, it wouldn't work even that wouldn't work like in terms of like do you know what it Well, that's the thing that's what maga actually means mutually assured getty assassination That's what it really stands for annihilation. Yeah, that's way better. It is I fucked up So god damn it now. I'm gonna think about that all night now that we've had a little bit of time to talk about it I don't think there's any That is a bad plan well It's kind of a deep mixture between like watchmen a little bit

Okay, I can see some watchmen and then you have a little bit of lost in there too You haven't made it to that point and lost right, right? I've only watched the first three episodes. You're right There's uh, the uh, the the swan station. No the hatch Sure, it has a uh, it has a nuclear uh thermonuclear bomb underneath it There's a failsafe in case things go wrong course So there's that kind of uh, which actually works with his timeline lost would have been out at the time of He's coming up with his philosophies, right? So it's possible that some of that is uh, influencing him Yeah, there's just so much bullshit. Yeah, it's crazy and it's drawn from so many terrible places too. Yeah, but at all

You know, it's it's like it's like how so many right-wing pundits are Failed comedians, right like they just don't have a sense of humor. They don't get they don't get anything Uh, as far as humor or creativity goes so they wind up proud boys Yeah, so they wind up showing up in these like racist bullshit tirades because they think that what they're doing is being like Provocative or funny. Yeah, like this is I'm a comic who succeeded To an extent and then realized I've probably hit my ceiling I'm gonna do something else. I'm still like having fun. Uh, but I was never I was never like a complete failure. I was funny, right, right exactly

You could but you could make the argument uh in some definition. I'm a failed stand-up But I I I am a failed stand-up who has already Exceeded his limit. Yeah. Yeah, like that's that's as good. This is as good as I get I'm a fail stand-up to the world, but I'm not to my own expectations and my own experience Those people and percentage wise, right was a failure. He was never funny on stage Dave Rubin. I've seen clips of him do stand-up. He's a disaster He's the only person who well, we saw alex do stand-up. So there we go The only person who's even close to that world who is

Like genuinely pretty funny as a stand-up is rogan, right? He's not even fully in that world. He's just He's too. He's he's descending quickly into uh caver hell Not really. I mean, he's uh, he's a mess and he needs to be much more critical of the people he allows on Or he needs to be better about calling them out But there have been a couple episodes like he had Dave Rubin on recently And kandace owens and on both of those there were in like he shouldn't have had them on period But I don't need to tell someone what they should or shouldn't do. It's right, right At least there were good instances on each of those episodes where he was like, what are you talking about?

Right sort of like they you that doesn't make sense, right? I appreciate that So if he wants to have these people on And embarrass them god bless you Yeah, but if you want to just have fucking jordan peterson on again and be like, oh, you're hilarious Oh, yeah, instead of stabbing him. There's no time for that But but these guys are like that except they're failed fan fiction writers Like it's it's even that far back like fan fiction is awesome And if you write good fan fiction great for you

These guys are like people who tried to write fan fiction in and failed at that no one came Yeah, not even not even trying to write fiction like trying to write fan fiction about somebody else's stuff because they can't come up with their own ideas And they realized that they couldn't even come up with their own ideas based off of other people's ideas So they just pull this bullshit, which is just like a random ass And then the guy has powers and like you know what i'm glad it's fucking pathetic. I'm still glad they do Yeah, it helps me get by Yeah, gives us a break from alex jones every day fair enough fair enough. So um, we get now to uh, carry saying something stupid about donald trump Okay, what about the notion that

Donald trump has been going around supposedly uh arresting at least some pedophiles Uh, supposedly talking about them and interrogating them Maybe doing military trials offshore In navy vessels as As i'm heard hearing vessels and i'm hearing this from more than one witness back channel as well So it's not just a rumor kind of is yeah, just because multiple people are telling you it doesn't mean it's not a rumor In fact, that's actually how rumors work multiple people spread them also um

Even if you had military tribunals for these people right on boats like in in international waters presumably Yeah, yeah, you still got to put them in prison Like there's still got to be a record of leavenworth dan There's still got to be a record of them somewhere. It's not like you can just disappear them or kill them Not even the cavers can disappear people. They send them to leavenworth. There's no due process Uh, you could be enacting where there's a pedophile to take them out in a boat You give them a fucking trial and then kill them There's no there's not like a death penalty for that like I I know that we all feel like maybe there should be

But there's that that's right. This argument doesn't work. No, it only works. No, it doesn't it only works if like Uh, you believe like carry and steve do they're eating these people right these children and shit like that now that makes sense Though which you've got to prove I'm kind of fine with that which you've got to prove even if you're on a fucking boat You still got to prove it It's not like the burden of proof is any less in the water If it's in international waters, it's probably even more severe because now you're under like un eegis You know, you're under the auspices. We just withdrew from the un human rights council We can eat whomever we want wherever we want. Congratulations on that. Yeah, great great job guys. Um, so now jordan we get to

how does has carry ever like expressed her opinion on the the the old dt the the the the guy who should be executed Yeah, I think she's for him. She's for him. I think so that's such a bummer Well, she believes a lot in this other stupid shit, you know, right? But come on if you have dreams like her When she says in there, I'm sorry to do the uh finger swirl. No, it's fine when she says in that clip What about this? I hear she's not asking a question. She's bringing that up Right. She doesn't like at the end of that. She's not waiting for an answer

She's bringing it up and then launches into another thing that dropped like she's in favor of okay So there there's a lot because of like the overlap between The stolen valour in the intelligence community. Yeah thing that's going on. Yeah Mixed with the secret space program bullshit and the heavy overlap between the two Right. I think that a lot of the things that alex is being lied about lied to About she's being lied to too. Right like, uh, robert david steele has been on her show a bit He's the one if you don't remember. Yeah

Talked about the mars basis. Yeah where children are being held right He's been on project camalot and told her a bunch of stuff about how trump is working towards uh, blah blah blah So whatever behind the scenes back channels, there are uh, it exists in both worlds Of course, and I don't know if they're all the same people, but there's probably similar people um, so Boy, I'll tell you what boy. I tell you what in this next clip I told you earlier that before the night before the cock crowed three times. Yes. Yeah Before paul denies our lord. It's actually very much, uh, appropriate because uh, uh, steve

Uh, makes a big faux paul in this next clip. Okay, and that is carrie brings up mark richards Oh, no, and steve and steve is like that dude's a murderer. No, just he's not impressed You know, I guess you might know about my interviews with captain mark richards The secret space program and he I have interviewed him now eight times And I go up to To interview him in prison And he's talking about uh, these, you know, they are Going to try to arrest pedophiles and take them and on in offshore

And so on but they're never going to get the the highest level So do you want do you want to know what I have to say about that? What sure and there's uh, you know, there's drako involved Uh, as well because this is a big war I want to play that 300 more times Uh drako vault too. Sure. Yeah, I I love it. That's perfect. I noticed that but I fucking forgot it That's That's a go fuck yourself moment drako vault drako vault. Yeah, yeah, drako if I can get back to that drako sure drako Do you want to know what I have to say about that? Oh, yes

Sure, and there's uh, you know, there's drako involved, uh, as well because this is a big war Not just uh, we have billions or one level but drako or another level And and yeah, and and I was just gonna say I know but let me finish just so I can paint the picture a little bit more So, uh, mark richards and his father were famous for having gone in with the military uh into dulce And rescuing they did rescue a number of the abductees And what they said happened was the next night they were abducted again by the graves. They could be lying I mean, it's it's hideous shit, but um, you know, I you know, he invested interest in lying about this I have to say so, you know, how do you look at this?

You know, you're you're a smart guy Most people are not even close to being to this level let alone because you know, this is the thing I like the petition when you talk about the effectiveness of the petition. Yes, it's Just to just be clear on that. He has a petition to get the military to storm, uh, getty And kary takes issue with the idea of like, why do you have a petition? What's that gonna do? And so that's sort of a little uh in the background argument they've been having so he's got a petition Yeah, but hold on we're gonna talk more about that. We're gonna talk more about that. All right All I'm the petition is a finger

Pointing at the latch on pandora's box. That's all right. I understand. Sure. Now as far as the secret space program And and all of this is concerned and its relationship to what's going on underground Uh, it's the same people. Okay. It's the third rite. The third rite is very much involved We have the we have everything that's going on in agartha and all that people people don't have any Clues to that we can't even begin to talk about that because most people this is way over their head Oh, shit. You said too many specifics. Oh, no, dan. Did you research this? No, it's just stuff. I already knew about I know I know what he's talking about. It's the third rite. Right, which is nazis right, but I mean Haven't we can't we get past that aren't we at the fourth rite? At least now

Well, the problem is because the third rite failed The problem is that he uses the word agartha Uh, and he did use the word agartha. So in in a number of contexts that word can mean number of different things Right, uh, generally, uh, it could be used as a fill-in term for like the garden of eden in some weird, uh, internet conspiracy worlds Did not know that um, but it it something along the lines of like a mythical city like, uh, el dorado or shangra Sure. Sure. Sure. Agartha is sort of in the same vein in in some worlds However, sounds real mythical because steve mentioned the third rite and agartha I unfortunately know that a hundred percent he believes in hollow earth theory

Because that is very specifically Uh, a belief that they have uh that where do these fucking guys come from they come from uh, so he's got all of these balls in the air How do you have the time to believe in all of this bullshit? Can't you also just believe that like he's integrated a lot of it. It's it's nice There's a five hour video you guys can watch online if you want to about the hidden history of humanity Don't I've watched it because I used to work at group on and you got to kill the time That's a good point. Uh, and it's also it has a nice soundtrack to it and uh, some of these people have funny voices Brown out. No, no, no, no

Wait, did you just watch Um, so according Not even that that was literally the first soundtrack that popped in my head. That's a 70s corn soundtrack I know for sure. By the way, not not vaguely one that is 100 100 percent one for one. Yeah. Yeah. No, I guarantee it I don't know which one but it's there So according to people who believe in this theory Uh way back in the day, atlantis and lemuria existed and they were highly technologically advanced civilizations Wonderful depending on who tells the story

It could be that the two got into a war or it could be that they started experimenting with things They weren't supposed to experiment with and they blew themselves up That is the plot to disney's atlantis, right? It's also a lot of the mythology that comes down from like the edgar casies and the uh, Hellenibal vatsky's theosophist movement. I think that might be michael j fox's best film I'm not gonna lie to you interesting loved the frighteners huge fan of back to the future but man Michael j fox's work in atlantis was incredible

I mean time has shown that Back to the future is certainly more beloved, but I'm not gonna get into that argument now So as the theory goes the survivors of atlantis being highly evolved beings fled to the interior of the earth In order to I guess help humanity continue to evolve Although it's unclear that that was what they were doing up to all that point So the remainders of atlantis the people uh, the highly evolved beings now live in the middle of the earth like jim CPA they now live in the middle of the earth which is either like, uh, uh, it's generally

The terms of it are very weird, uh, but they've split into two falsely warring factions I don't want to continue once you start saying they split into Why what sure fine? Continue well, but actually I'm going to bring this back to ala. Okay promise. So, okay Um, so they have these two falsely warring factions. There's shambhala and arghartha Which are the uh, the the two groups that through that like one of them's the Templars and one is uh, Hat fields the macaws. You know, like sure sure sure these two schools That are faking to be at war with each other through Athens versus sparta. Sure. Why not?

Sauce it all in there. So through through their false warring, uh, they have influenced the entire history of all human history It doesn't seem hard They're rooted in the same group but use the appearance of disagreement to sway everyone Kind of exactly what alex thinks the globalists do Agartha was on the side of the nazis, which is uh, I know that this is what steve is referring to right according to this entire mythology There's like, uh, there's all but look here's the thing What you have to realize is a lot of this comes down From people who have channeled aliens and stuff like that. Right a lot of it comes down from like very discredited scholars

Uh, in the same way that alex misrepresents primary sources. They do some of the same. Yeah, but There's no solid evidence of any of this. You know, I Sometimes both admire your Knowledge of this stuff and pity you I love it. Like that's that's brilliant. I'm not even Dan. I'm not I'm not I'm not joking. I'm I'm literally I am at a place now where I am like

Astonished by how much you know about this. I have so much more at the same time. God damn it dan You don't need to know this stuff life goes on. No, this is all I need to know about fair enough So, um, there's no evidence of this at all like, uh, in terms of real things Oh, yeah, but the biggest proponent behind the theory And one of the main talking heads Jim in that five hour. No, he's Jim doesn't come into play. Okay, but it's Eric von Daniken He is the there are always vans. Well, you know, we're Eric von Daniken's big ancient aliens guy I loved this. I found this Carl Sagan quote about Eric von Daniken von Daniken that guy von Daniken's big book is called chariots of the gods

And a lot of it is mistranslations of like somerian and stuff like that He had no uh knowledge of and right he's making giant assumptions I don't even think most people it's like not even experts in somerian can translate it perfectly, right? It's I don't know. It's difficult. It's definitely difficult. There are very few people who you can trust. Yeah, there's like five Perhaps but Carl Sagan had this to say about his book That quote that right, uh, that writing as careless as von Daniken's those principal, uh, whose principal thesis is that our ancestors were dummies Should be uh, should be so popular as a sober commentary on the credulousness and despair of our times I also hope for the continuing popularity of books like chariots of the gods in high school and college logic courses

As object lessons in sloppy thinking I know no recent books so riddled with logical and factual errors as the works of Eric von Daniken In past works von Daniken has referred to the quote book of dzian dzy an which does not exist Yeah, that seems like a big sticking point for sagan. He's referenced sagan. It's sagan is not a big fan of nonexistent We're outside the quote now. This is another note. Okay. Um, that book the book of dzian does not exist It's a figment of Helena Blavatsky's imagination and only exists in quote her astral realm Kind of how the necronomicon of the mad arab abdul al-hasrid only exists in lovecraft's fiction or el ron hubbard's Excalibur sure

But von Daniken pretends it's real and brings it in as a piece of evidence in a lot of his work Ashford's is the evil dead. So now one of the things He was involved in that right? I want to talk about von Daniken a little bit more Just because he is like very central to this uh, this world this uh, this this ancient alien specifically the right In the hollow earth version of right right, um, and you need to really like there's a lot of other guys We could get into uh, like uh, who are equally like discredible Uh, but von Daniken is really like almost patient zero. He's like he's the pappy of them all That's the big one. So I want to I took a little bit of time to look at he's the he's this pez dispenser

Uh, but I don't whatever whatever his pez is. He's the dispenser of this Yeah, perhaps I don't I don't know like that's the thing about him is I i'm not entirely sure that he necessarily Has the same like anti-jews stuff going on. I'm not I'm not saying that he's a literal pez dispenser I mean in the sense that uh, the protocols of the elders of Zion dispense all of this bullshit From that source right in the same way. He is that source that all of this bullshit flows from yes. Yeah Yeah, um, so a whole lot of the ancient alien stuff and von Daniken's work in particular seems to be rooted around a Disbelief that non-white people could have created anything in the past great So instead of research the reality of these tribal cultures people like eric von Daniken just cry aliens whenever they see something that seems surprising

Right. Um, one of the critiques of him, uh, was that he just uh, he's said to just quote ignore the real achievements of our ancestors And constitute the ultimate in racism. He belittles the abilities and ingenuity of the human species as a whole Before writing chariots of the gods von Daniken had done time in an egyptian prison for fraud and embezzlement Of course when he finished the manuscript, he had a hard time selling it because people were like, no Then he found a publishing house that was willing to put it out provided he allowed an actual writer to completely rewrite the book Okay So okay, so they are this is the producer meeting right here. This is the Listen, i'm your literary agent. I have got you this amazing deal

It is going to be we're gonna give you 60% of the proceeds of this book spoiler rule and actually know what he got you got seven But go ahead seven percent. All right, uh, we love it It's great. You are amazing. Can we have somebody rewrite all of it? Sure Millionaire it actually was a much bigger success than it deserved to be but of course So he had to have it rewritten and his book was rewritten by a guy named utz uterman under the pseudonym Wilhelm rugger's door short now. You might ask why the pseudonym?

No, uh, I wasn't going to ask that. I thought it was obvious It's because they don't want anybody's name anywhere near that bullshit No, it's probably because uterman was a nazi writer slash filmmaker, which is code for propagandist great He was a nazi who did not get punished. It always comes back to it's always comes back to hating jews and nazis But I don't know what is wrong with people see I don't know if his theories were actually like hating jews necessarily It certainly invalidates a lot of tribal people and what I do But it is certainly interesting that the guy who rewrote it was a nazi propagandist always comes down. Yeah

So, uh, the same year that the book was published eric van denken was arrested for fraud Having falsified hotel records and credit references to scam 130 thousand dollars over a period of 12 years He unsuccessfully hot man's got a con He unsuccessfully entered a plea of nullity On the grounds that his intentions were not malicious and that the credit institutions were at fault for failing to adequately research his references That's a good argument. Yeah, that's a good argument. Come on, man. I'm a liar Why didn't you know they should have caught me? It's on you Um, so and then on the 13th of february 1970 who sentenced to three and a half years imprisonment

During which time he wrote his second book gods from outer space. Of course, of course Also, I have one more thing I want to read and I hate to do this. I hate to read straight from wikipedia lies There's a lot of love it. There's no, I don't I don't respect them generally as a source because people just edit stuff Yeah, but there's a lot of citations you can find the the backing evidence of this right and the way it's written I didn't want to rewrite it because it's just Dead on it's fantastic. Okay. So this is another damning indictment of uh of eric von daniken Uh, but but but here we go. So in gold of the gods, which is another one of his gold of the gods

He has a lot of things of the gods. That's a sequel to uh, uh, what's it called? Um, what was the first book put out by ted anderson? Chariots of the gods was the first one chariots of the gods from outer space as I believe his uh, his follow-up And now we're at golds of the gods. I'm not sure. I'm not even sure that's his third one. There might have been more Um, but also there's tons of instances of a lot of the gods that he got way wrong and then they're just like, hey What about that? He's like, yeah I'll I'll deal with that in my upcoming book blank of the gods So in gold of the gods von daniken describes an expedition that he undertook through man-made tunnels within cueva de los tallos

The natural cave system in ecuador guided by a local man named wan moritz He reported seeing mounds of gold strange statues in a library containing metal tablets All of which he considered to be uh evidence of ancient extra extra terrestrial visitation No other explanation a local priest father krespi stewarded, uh a collection of gold Extra terrestrial relics he said with special permission from the vatican Love it moritz told der spiegel uh there spiegel that there had been no expedition von daniken's descriptions came from a quote long conversation and the photos in the book had been quote fiddled During the night fiddled during the 1974 interview von daniken asserted that he had indeed seen the library and the artifacts in the tunnels

But he embellished some aspects of the story to make it more interesting I May be made a couple of things different quote. It's not a big deal though. I'm doing it for Look, you gotta you gotta fucking make it Amazing you gotta get people that you gotta give a little bit of a that like that juana vive that you know that I don't know what you gotta put a little bit it in there You gotta sell it quote in german We say a writer if he's not writing pure science is allowed to use some dramaturgic effect

See now that's german words That's just lies some theatrical effects some lies and that's what I have done Four years later. He admitted he had never been inside quave a day like right well I was never there and had fabricated the entire cave adventure. Look. I mean I made it up But that's german for dramaturgic A geologist found no evidence of artificial tunnels in the area father kresby's gold artifacts according to an archaeologist Consulted by der spiegel were mostly brass imitation sold locally as tourist souvenirs. Love it. Love it Love it. That's what we're dealing with. I'm such a huge fan of every story that begins with a local priest found and I'm like

Oh, give me give me more. Give me more. It's a local priest. Fuck. Yes. So fuck. Yes I know we probably have gone too far down a uh, eric von danakin hole But whenever I hear him say agartha that is like that is a big red flag to me Especially in the context of nazis because I know he means hollow earth and I know that he means This version of it Right, there are there are certain words much like and we're gonna get back to it the density stuff Yeah, there are those words that like I know what that means in this world because I've spent time on these message boards Yeah, and I've studied this stupidity so much that I know like

Whereas it would just roll off your back or you might be confused by it. I had no I I had no idea It's code it would never have occurred to me that there was a whole Like that's the that's the interesting thing about this This world that we we live in and why it's it's awesome that you Have spent way too much time used myself murdered yourself Through uh through this is that like so many of these asides So many of these little like tossed off factoids, right are like me like in my world. I would just go

Well, that's more bullshit But in with the knowledge that you have it's like no, that's not more bullshit That's bullshit that points to the Points to this bullshit and that bullshit In capsulates an entire white super it always comes back to white supremacy It does at least tertiary really. Yeah, it always winds up being like one word Next to the other word and I'm like, oh he just said agartha. That's probably some other made up bullshit like reptoids It's another tunnel and some other made up bullshit like reptoids and instead it's like no

I can point that back to him being a fucking nazi and you're like damn it Well, it's it's it's like what I would like in a two and actually I could talk for another hour Yeah, we about that hollow worth stuff But like uh, there's a it's like the privilege knowledge of the crazy Yeah, uh is how I would put it. I don't mean to say that I I'll let me take crazy away from it Right the privilege knowledge of like a weird set in humanity Because most people don't get to know those things because they never put the time in like watching a five hour fucking video Or reading all of these things that I've read that are clearly lies, but I was just interested in them

Right and you generally don't find someone who uh, isn't uh out of their mind who knows these things Right and so that's that's kind of fun. This guy's out of his mind. You are you are a sherpa of bullshit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'll take you up bullshit mountain. You take all of us up bullshit mountain and you show us why It smells bad and why it seems like it's an outpost of info wars llc along the way No kidding. So now at this point in this they're all the same fucking mountain and this next clip already Steve has made a faux pas and that he has said reveal. He's a nazi. No drago's are involved too. Mm-hmm drago's

Yeah, that he's made that faux pas in sort of shitting on uh, uh Mark richards a little bit of course and I I don't want to I I here's what I have to say I hate that i'm saying this because I feel like it might come off as misogynistic And I don't mean it to be but I think kary casady is in love with mark richards Because the way the way no She is so defensive of him. No I can totally see that now to a level that I don't think uh people generally are unless there is like You know, it doesn't they could just no it doesn't have to be a romantic thing. No, no

I totally get what you're saying. You can still be in love with something. No, no She clearly cares about him in a way that is beyond a professional relationship. Yes because there's so many times when you could just be like Hold on. What is he saying? Yeah? So many opportunities for that and she never takes those opportunities and any but anytime anyone else challenges His thoughts she gets very defensive like like if he In in their interviews if he is like well, this guy said some dumb shit She is like he said this guy said some dumb shit. So I believe him. Yeah, but if anybody that she is interviewing Says bad words about mark. She goes apeshit or contradicts his narrative. It just becomes. Yeah

No, no, no, no, I totally see that now and now we're gonna see that play out in real time Okay, and and this is why would I say This is like your mark richards doesn't understand. Yes, they're not going to give up They will blow everything up before they give up And uh, well actually I would say he understands more than almost any human I've met on the planet By virtue of what of the fact that he's dealt face to face with these beings And for many years and so did his father But aside from that, uh, you know, I appreciate your approach

I I will say that uh, there is another level. I don't So already we'll get back to it in a second But already it's like uh, look you don't you are disrespecting my main guy That's such a brush off you can hear the tone change From what was before this like an interview to now like I respect your position It's it's that that is the that is the uh, uh, what that's the movie pitch meeting That's uh, I respect what you're trying to do right right, which Means goodbye. There is which means you're done. Yeah, there is yet done

There's a feeling of like Kerry's emotionally checked out of this interview. Yeah, yeah for sure for sure I don't know if you've heard of this guy named eddie page Who is got documented evidence Showing that he's a group of 33 pleiadians that were brought here And um met with the president worked for the cia were guarded by the cia right for their entire upbringing and I interviewed him just a couple days ago. He said there's a pleiadianship That has just entered our um, I don't know if you call it our atmosphere, but very close to us somewhere from the space station

On in and that it's a mothership. So it's gigantic and uh, I think I don't can't remember the exact measurements, but I something like 18 miles On in one direction. I think he said uh, and that sort of thing So he said there's more on the way and his it's interesting because I'm having him on the show Uh, I think it's yeah tomorrow afternoon I'm having him back and I'm just giving you this heads up because it's interesting We're dealing with a war of worlds as you know And the question is is that he's saying that the pleiadians are saying that his

You know contacts in the pleiades are basically Are sort of they are, you know brought jesus. They were they brought jesus the original genome human human genome Right, uh, whether this is all completely correct or not is another matter We delve into that on another, you know software metheus ridley scott not his best film I still think it's a lot more interesting than people gave it credit for idris elba fantastic anyways Reality go ahead and shoot Clips not done, but I do think there's a remarkable moment there where she's like whether this is real or not

We could talk about another time which like yeah, I think that's the only thing we should be talking about I think that's pretty much the only thing you should ever be talking about right Yeah, I looked into eddie page a little bit. We don't have time for it because it was a whole other interview that uh, she did and man Boy, he is he gives me some red flags too Uh, but all of jimmy page's brother. Yep all of his information comes from like a psychologist set him down and did like these Regressions like hypnotized him. No, oh boy. Some of the stuff he said Crazy that sure did not uh, uh get disproven in that satanic panic era whenever so many children were Pulled out and had their regressed memories get uh, people fucking locked up with anyways

He supposedly was in vietnam and uh, then got taken by aliens when he was a Uh, no, he was he was in the shit in vietnam. Oh, he was in the shit. Yeah, he was in the shit All right, um, he got taken by aliens and he thought it was like five minutes later But it was 11 days that he'd spent on an alien ship that makes it and then they had to regress him He got found in like a rice paddy Uh miles off rice or hard rice the way from where he was like miles away in a different uniform or some shit Right, right. I don't know. You might just been doing drugs in vietnam uniform of the gods. I don't know. I don't that was his next book That's true. No, that's no different guy different guy

sort of conversation, but The question is is that they're saying there's no way that we can fight the draco and the raclians and win wait and win what and uh without sort of their help and mark richards is saying I I know this is that you know, I talk to a lot of people steven and uh, mark richards is saying he deals with what are called the raptors who uh, Originally came from the dinosaurs in the draco line, but split off back when uh, 65 million years or more ago And went their own way and now are working with our our military And uh, this is that he goes into a great detail about this and so

He's saying that they are offering their help in other words. We're in a situation where yes, we have some tools to fight these beings But earth is been a playground for these beings now for quite a number of And uh, and humans have also been their prey for uh for a very long time So, you know, it's it's kind of I think it you know, I appreciate your approach, but I think you know, let's not be simplistic about it Um, there's a lot to this picture. There's not that many of them out there There's not that many. There's a lot more of us. Okay. This is why they want to kill us off so so badly Because this this whole idea of seven billion humans is really dangerous

You know, it only takes like four thousand humans to equal the power of a hydrogen bomb Doesn't quite work. That doesn't make sense at all. I don't know what that means. What does that even mean? Uh, there's like hypothetical. What if you blow four thousand people up? What does that mean? There's like potential and kinetic energy That's uh, like from all of our blood vessels and all of the uh, I mean if you have that's within each four thousand people made of Anti-matter that then suddenly touch four thousand people made of regular matter. Then yeah, I suppose But isn't that the case if you have like an atom of matter versus anti-matter? It's a hundred percent energy exchange, dan Right, but there's

Right Exactly exactly exactly exactly what density are we talking about 17th? Okay, we're gonna get into that. All right But like dude that that's just Carrie is shutting down. She's sick of it. You don't respect mark richards. Right. I don't want to talk to you Right, and I think that steve feels it and now just wants to get his punches in right just wants to get his points in Right. He is also kind of checked out um, and now we get into Uh, something that really scares me

Uh, we are going to remember when I told you earlier in this episode that I have a lot of feelings Yes, about this guy. We've gone through a lot of different feelings about this one of them should have been made clear when I was Laying out that he likes to rip people off with guns. Yeah But I'm actually the next couple clips Illustrate that I'm actually scared of this guy. Okay of the people who are on project camelot Like I know mark richards killed a guy and all that. I'm not scared of him. He's in vaca vil prison I'm not really scared. Right. I don't think he'd do it again Right. I think he killed the guy under or was an accessory of the murder on a certain circumstance. Yes. I don't think necessarily

He's a uh, really scary dude, right Steve kelly. I think is a fucking scary dude um, the beginning of this clip and the next clip will lay that out, but uh I mean, we already know that he may or may not have been running a militia Here's what he's right. Here's what he's doing now. Okay We're and we're waking up. That's the thing. It's like the stuff that we're doing Yeah, I have a little jedi army. Okay right now. No, I don't know how many there are no But the stuff that we do with just a little tiny group of people gosh

You know, I'm thinking about what's going to happen when I've got 200 million jedi. You won't there. I don't give a damn about You know what? This is the thing For 25 million years The draco the anunnaki and the gray have been running them up and destroying everything and screwing it up for everybody else in the Universe and that's over and we're us humans that may be the hybrids that were created by all these guys I don't care if you're a gray hybrid anunnaki hybrid or or a reptile hybrid We're still all humans And we're brothers and we're we're going to work together and guess what the creator put us here to kill off

Those masters the slaves are rising up. This is like 80 all over again This is how it's gonna go down. It's all the first thing Exactly like all the reptoids on earth Then all the grays on the moon and then when the next time nibburu rolls around and we get a visit by the anunnaki We're going to take them out And we have a lot of help out there I'll tell you you talk about pleidians my god the pleidians couldn't even get into the getty until we open the door So I don't know what I'm not sure where you're getting that information. Yeah from real from being there

What does that mean? What it means is when you go down there into the getty and you're getting ready to open the door You got all these entities that have been there for a hundred million years sitting there waiting behind you Sure Yes, there's a lot of help out there We have a big old cheering section and there's a lot of you see this is the thing all these densities They don't work together until they work together And it wasn't until our reality merged with the reality of these higher levels that it even became

Reality for them to even get involved in the fourth density fifth density types like the pleidians are sitting out there on the outskirts They couldn't even get involved in this stuff until we simple third density humans Let it allowed it to come into our brains and make it reality because it's not it wasn't even part of the matrix until That's not the information I have I appreciate your what they're telling you that's what I'm telling you Yeah, okay. Well, I you know what resonates is what resonates and I'm sorry You have to go back in history a lot farther than that and I appreciate your approach By the way, the pleidians are uh six dimensional So and they may be more than that

Let's say density dimension isn't even a word dimension is a function of time Density is what we use density is a well there's densities and dimensions So you have to deal with both one's vertical and one's horizontal if you want to look at it like I don't They just start to say squabble. This is this is too This is this is like two nerds arguing whether or not star wars and

Uh lord of the rings happened in the same timeline. Yeah, like this is bananas. Both of you are talking about made-up shit It didn't it none of this happened. Right. Why are you pulling out six? Oh? No, no, no the jedi didn't speak elvish. What are you fucking talking about? Yeah, you're insane It's pretty crazy density versus it. What are you fucking talking about now? It's time to talk about densities All right, what do you know about densities? I don't know shit about densities. There's like, uh, you know, there's like, uh, put it in water, you know, it's uh, it's uh It's a it's a measurement density like a how dense is something No, no, no, I understand what density means. I don't understand what it means in your world

Uh, so it's hard to say definitively that this is the exact place that steve is drawing his concept of densities from But I would bet almost everything That this is where he's drawing it from on october In october 2008 a user on the message board above top secrets started posting under the screen name hidden hand This person claimed to be a part of the illuminati whose personal responsibility was to make himself available to answer questions That people have in order to fulfill the requirement that people have free will This is exactly the same as alex's idea of the globalists using lesser magic that they have to tell you what they're doing Before they do it to you, right? So you have this person who came on to this message board and was like you're welcome to

Ask me any question. I'm not going to tell you things But you're you can ask me any question and it is my responsibility to answer it for you It's something that the illuminati bloodlines have to do from time to time in order to fulfill our obligation No, no, no, that's just that's just fact. So hidden hand proceeds to take tons of questions Um, and it's honestly a really satisfying read as far as instances of very clear role playing goes He sets up rules ahead of time like quote I will decide whether or not I'm willing to to or permitted to answer your question If your question is not answered

It is either because I cannot disclose it or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following Respect courtesy intelligence Decency or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response Those rules could preclude pretty much answering any question that was posed if they just didn't want to seems like it Everything is cryptic enough as to be meaningless That is answered like uh, quote We are 13 super bloodlines and we control everything like that sort of thing right that's meaningless right However, at one point the poster who goes by hidden hand did get specific when asked to give

Specific predictions and the predictions are not good quote. There will be a new currency by the end of 2008 early 2009 Along with a new union of nations totally true. January has been spoken of in some circles as the latest nailed it The other prediction that they made specifically that's a real shit Quote san francisco and damascus will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010 possibly even sooner pen dragon So this person was super way off But I bring this up because the entire thing was largely based around the idea of beings from different densities And how there's a great harvest coming up which spoiler alert was december 21st 2012

Tends to happen that quote Yes, the noonday winter solstice son of december 21st 2012 is the time when the lord of the harvest shall return You might know him as naburu So gotta know him as naburu this hidden hand uh larper this role player Yeah, uh was doing this in preparation Of the hoax and uh nonsense of 2012 stuff, of course, which is also a bust from the prediction standpoint The way densities work is this I had to write this down because I could explain this to you, but it would probably take me way no, no, no

I'm out. Okay. I'm already past. So they're basically dimensions But the idea is pretty heavily derived from gnostic ideas where there's the infinite one That's the root of everything, right? Sure Do that from that which from everything flows? I'm I'm gonna accept that all right and then tension is introduced in terms of the infinite Experiencing itself as with free will it would necessarily desire to experience itself externally and thus division must be made Oh, of course to make this wildly simplified a ton of illusions are created wherein different thought forms of different levels can experience Different aspects of the infinite one that makes perfect sense

It doesn't but I I think it's the simplest way to explain that sure So these differently leveled illusions are called densities a term the poster ends up using 117 times Throughout the dialogue that happens on the message board Of course We are said to be in the third density with the first density being just achieving consciousness period just whatever consciousness You're you're alive and conscious right first density the second density being a state of consciousness where you're conscious of being Sure, and then that evolves to the third when the consciousness becomes aware of its separateness from the whole Which is to say the infinite one

Sure when you reach the eighth density you absorb back into the perfect unity of the infinite one sure however When you reach the sixth density Yeah, you're about to go into the seventh You have the option to either progress or to descend to help the lower levels evolve. I am going to pass You just want to use all I'm just gonna pass or back. I'm just gonna pass fine hard pass All of this hard pass Even on me explaining it. Yes I I have to the more you talk about it the less I'm interested in I have to get through this

Okay, so details about what the densities are are a little thin But the fourth density is referred to as the density of love the fifth is density of wisdom and light and the sixth The density of unity as for what that means you just get to make up whatever you want to be sure um, so the the thing is I'm positive that he's getting uh the these ideas from this Because of all the heavy overlap right and because uh in his lecture that he gives that I referenced He literally says that we need a 51 percent grade in the service to others side of things in order to pass

To the next level. No, which is taken exactly 51 percent in order to get to the next density You need a d in order in order to get to the next density You have to be in service to others and then you go to a positive level sure if you're service to self You go to a negative level it's the selfishness versus the entire thing sure the entire lark is basically about this uh, this uh Rationalization of the idea of the illuminati being uh, the these people who need to make very seriously evil decisions in order to make sure That they go to the fourth density under the negative version So they have to be super evil

In order to go to the next level which is good for everyone else because it helps them work off their karmic debt Right, it's a loaded right, right, so i've gone blind It's a hundred all of the things that you've said have made me go blind. It's a hundred percent what he's talking about Okay, it is insane. All right like to the I I understand that we're at a point now where you're like, why would I even uh, you're you're going blind and you're mad that I I when I i'm not i'm not mad at you about that when i'm when i'm responding to is like That is such a complex ridiculous load of nonsense thrown together as though it made any sense at all

It's bananas. I'm not here arguing that it makes sense, but i'm arguing that that's where he's taking this from yeah A hundred percent. I know this but like in the same way that you were like charmed by the eric von danakin version I was having fun now. It's the same thing. I can tell you he's getting that from this. Yeah But he's making it suck also spoiler alert hidden hand was asked if the earth is hollow and the response was yes Definitely, well, yeah, but that's true now granted It's important for me to point out That this notorious internet hoax is almost certainly ripped from what's known as the raw material or the law of one This is basically another in a long line of channeled documents where humans had aliens speaking through them

Like the yarancha book that we talked about on a past episode Yeah, the reason I discount this being like the raw material is being where he gets it from is because uh, Steve got his eye That book came out the raw stuff came out in the 80s the 1980s Yeah, hidden hand popped up in 2008 that timing seems interesting because on one of the gun sites that I went to There's this review from 2009. Yeah quote though. I eventually got what I ordered I had already written it off as lost

Because I took it took close to six months if I remember correctly He wouldn't return calls and I filed reports everywhere local cops even knocked on his door and spoke with him And I was talking with atf about him as well when he didn't when he did send me When he did send it to me he enclosed the business card of the cop that he spoke to And made some comment about me being a whiner So I think in about 2009 he got reported to the atf As being a fraudulent gun sale guy, right? And then he needed to diversify his portfolio and became a illuminati

Insider and he just ripped off stuff that he had found on message boards and the internet and turned it into an entire world view Of course my thesis about him is complete That is what I believe about him based on the things that I know Now here is why you need to be super afraid of him You know you talk about beings. Okay. This is the thing. Okay, you know, you know about all the super soldier stuff And I know you people know about that everything And I have this entity That we refer to as Rambo

and Rambo is uh On Rambo's been getting very active lately. Okay, and um He pretty much will do anything I want But uh Rambo is one of the reasons why these guys won't touch me. I think I can get away with these things and um I don't know if you've met Rambo, you'll know what I'm talking about. I'm sure there's people listening right now that have met Rambo Yeah, gosh. Oh Carrie. I don't know you ever you ever meet Rambo Uh, no not to my knowledge. This sounds like a you know a discarnate entity Yeah, he said and he's um, he's my alter

Okay, okay But yeah, I don't know what he is exactly. He's another dense to the entity. He's a higher level dense to the entity but he's very active on this plane and uh He's kind of like my bodyguard. I guess something like that. I don't know what you call him But uh, he's been very active lately. So That to me sounds like I dissociate and hurt people

Yeah, and then I blame a Rambo for it That's a multiple personality kind of bullshit right there and multiple personalities doesn't exist Well, not not not as that. Uh, that's a psychotic break. That's a dissociative Sort of thing and the fact that he's aware of it leads me to believe it's not sincere And he just likes hurting people exactly and then blaming it on this other alter that he has named Rambo That's fucking scary. The fact that he's involved in illegal gun Operations is fucking scary the idea that he used to have a militia and now calls it a jedi group Is fucking scary. That's a little bit charming though

Oh, this is so god It's so it's such a mess because I know I know how people work I mean, look if if Gavin hadn't called it the proud boys and instead call it the jedi's That might be that might make me feel differently. But if they did the same Proud boys if they did the same thing. I'm not into it. No. Yeah, I agree Same time. What if ice called themselves jedi's now see there we go. Now we have a question Now we have a conversation. That's what we're talking about now. We're in an interesting situation. So, um You know, he loved to sell guns. Yeah, but it turns out there's one weapon

That's greater than any other weapon I take issue. I think that he's not correct in this but let's uh, let's see you speak his piece And and I'll tell you and you talk to any of these Super soldiers if they're the real deal and they'll tell you the same damn thing It doesn't matter what you go up against all you got to do is say jesus christ and they're dead That it's so easy sounds right. I do that time and time again. That's it You go up against some monster and they think they're so tough real quick the power of christ compels you The power of christ compels you at this point kary is so checked out that he's just rambling to her like trying to end the show

Yeah You're not coming past me. You're nothing. You're nothing and then all you guys I don't even have to say it all I have to do is think it and they're so they're gone just like that sad They don't know what hit them. This is the saddest thing I've ever heard. We all do it. We all do it So this is not religion, but that's what we do. Sure. That's how it's done. Sure. Okay All right, okay She's so checked out. She's like trying this is maybe five minutes into her like trying to end this like let's do some plugs And so I have one last clip and it's where kary is trying to do some plugs. She plugs his twitter

Uh, and it's like where can people find you and we now get to the petition that he okay? Yes, I know you had some questions about the petition here is where we get into uh, this petition not going so good You have a petition And I I want to make sure people know do they need to to go to a special link to find it or had it What's the simple way to find this stuff? Well That's the thing about the white house petition page It won't even really show up on the page until we've got at least 250 signatures So the best way to find it of course is to is just to do a google search with my name. Not great

Under 250 signatures for this save Oh Destroy the getty. Oh, he just demon. He just sadded me. I just got sad. Do you want to get even sadder? He just may be sad. He has a he has a uh, uh radio show called truth cat radio He can't have a radio show as a is a radio show How can you have a radio show if you can't even get 250 signatures? Well, they have a patreon They have three donors. Okay. Anyway guys. Thank you for donating I guess maybe we shouldn't be evil

no It seems fun in terms of what you can lie about But if you actually get down to brass tacks, you see like he's got this fundraising site He has three people who have signed up for you. He spits all this vitriolic shit on twitter He probably has as many followers as us, right? It's not like it's not like he's doing much better on that front You see like that guy that guy who was on info wars. This is the example. I always use like he was starting the info wagon Yeah, he was getting Info wagon sitting at like 300 dollars and donations for months, you know like all all this stuff like

Everything is so artificially inflated. It's it's easy to some extent to get Tons of views on your videos if you name them salacious things like space proof of Right, right. See right shit like that and you know how to do some mild seo You're able to drive traffic so you can have 20,000 people watch your video But what does that translate to it doesn't translate to shit? Maybe it's that we should still be good But get better at seo. That's the real I think that might be what we're risked that we're right What we're trying to tell people is that unfortunately Evil people are just better at seo than we are. Well, no, you know what it is

It's they're better at the manipulation stuff right and unfortunately some of the like uh, just Like real uh, keystone aspects of creating Yeah, yeah, yeah It's based on manipulation. Yeah, and so we're not good at that. No, we're trying terrible. I did that instagram shit over You did great. You we we did things for the gram. Maybe that helped for sure Anyway, this brings us to the end of our uh time with uh, steven kelly on uh project boy What a ride if you had if you could put a laser on a knife You would have sk industries as well. I sincerely wish that uh, you had been more present

Well, I was talking about density stuff because I feel like you left me out to dry I don't know what to tell you about density that bummed me out Density stuff bummed me out it like when you start talking about levels of density I get angry. I don't know. I'm pissed off. I don't know because if you pull out dimensions That's fine. We can have a fun talk about it's more or less the same thing. We can have yeah, but that's the issue That's the issue you take science out take science out like dimensions to me can be thrown in with all science fiction Where it's like oh length with time sixth dimension like sure fine It doesn't actually mean anything, but when you start talking about like fifth density

That doesn't that doesn't make any goddamn sense at all. Well, that's that's bullshit. That's nonsense wisdom. That's fucking nonsense It doesn't have a thousand year uh science fiction history behind it No, but it is a at least 20 year bullshit history behind it. Hey, how's it going? That's fair Um, oh, oh, I I delight in uh this stuff Especially this episode just because it hit on these like these hollow earth shit Right hidden. No, this hit every part of your your wheelhouse. I could have gone like I could have gone another couple hours Honestly, I know just rambling and I kept it tight in terms of

six hours later Just all the shit I know about this. I know I tease on atlantis. I know but I know the moment we got into atlantis stuff I was like shit dan's going to talk for a year. I kept that tight You did you did an amazing job keeping your time. Yes If there was a project camp a lot episode that I can find where someone is like, uh, hey, uh Uh, the uh, atlantis is in bimini or something like that. Yeah, then we're then we're yeah Then I got to lock off a hole. I got to take a time off work I got to do a whole thing. I got you and we got to get a handle

But be that as a mate this brings us to the end. Uh, we'll be back to alex jones related stuff soon. Also, uh, gotten Uh, man, we got a we got to do a hard reset On some stuff and one of those things is we've done a very terrible job of getting back to these time travel episodes Yes, so I'm going to make that a priority. Yes moving forward. Uh, put very public apology to uh, jim And ian in particular two dudes who uh, have had uh, uh, we've owed them. Yeah The time travel episodes those will be coming soon. Yeah. Um, and uh, yeah, we're you know, we're back Everything is uh, moving forward and wonderful if you want to check out our website. It is knowledge fight dot com

Uh, you can follow us on twitter at knowledge underscore fights And go to facebook That's right. You can do that that we got a we got a facebook group called go home and tell your brother you're brilliant Uh, you can find us on itunes. Uh, google just released a new podcast app I bet you could probably find us there. I bet can you know, I don't know how to do that. Yeah, that sounds right Not on stitcher. I have no idea. Nope. Uh, definitely not on spotify. They have no interest in us No, but we are on the howl app We're not

Uh, anyways dan, I believe it's oh, we're also a nerdist No cut that out cut that out. No They're not related to chris hardwick anymore. I know. I know i'm just all right. You can go fuck himself. All right He can absolutely go. That's a minor one. Um, what do you got dan? No, no, no, it's your turn eric von danakin For all of your massive lies some of them still fun. I appreciate some of them the scope of them But you can still go fuck yourself Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

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