Knowledge Fight - #172: June 11, 2013

Episode Date: June 22, 2018

Today, Dan takes Jordan on a Time Travelling adventure, as directed by Policy Wonk Ian, who suggested the gents go back to June 2013 to find out how Alex Jones responded on his own show after his disastrous appearance on BBC Sunday Politics. Tune in to find out, and learn about Anti-Monopoly Musical Chairs as a bonus.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes that sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed, we are. Dan. Sup.

Dan. Sup. If you were to wear a jacket, one, perhaps the single-most disrespectful jacket, that you could possibly wear. Right. I would imagine it would be me showing up for our live podcast that we did in Austin last week with a t-shirt or a jacket that says, I don't know anything about Alex Jones. That wouldn't be, that's not even right. That would be the reverse.

This is un-sensitive. This is insensitive to the realities of the world we have. Yeah. This bit is not working out. I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. So that's the theme of the podcast today. Yeah. Jordan, we got a real fun episode to go over. Good.

But before we do that, I would like to spend a tiny video time here just to give away a couple. Thank yous. Giving them away. Giving them away. Absolutely. Come on down. They're just giving them away. I'd like to thank a couple of new donors who have signed up first.

Like to say, thank you so much, George. I'm a policy wonk. We appreciate it. Yes. Thank you very much for signing up with the team, George. Hey. Also, I'd like to thank William for signing up and becoming a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you so much, William. Hey, William. You know what's weird? What's up? My best friend when I was like six years old, his name was William and his older brother's name was George. These are. I assume it's the two of them.

I don't know. I would. I assume they text back and forth and they were like, we got to donate to the show. Never actually listened to the show before. I would suggest the possibility is much higher than it's very common name. That's true. Two of the most common names in fact possible. So Jordan today.

Yeah. Yeah. What we're doing is I started listening to a little bit of modern day stuff and I said, I said, good bye. Boo. Yeah. Oh, hard pass. Nope.

Well, none of that. He had a, he had an interview with a guy named the amazing Jason, I believe. All right. And I was like, Oh my God, is Alex interviewing magicians? Yeah, I know. Is that the amazing Jonathan's brother? It's not. Is that like Gallagher too?

Did he sell his act to his brother? No. It's a former bodybuilder slash a MAGA African American YouTube guy. All right. All right. And I was like, Oh God, this isn't a magician. He's got a, he's got a busy life going on right there. I said, former bodybuilder.

Right. No, that's what I'm saying. There's a lot going on. I don't want none of it. Yeah. So that was really disappointing. But like all the stuff is pretty much exactly what you'd expect. It's just, you know, I don't really, I don't want to do it.

No. No. I don't want to talk about his perspective on the present. And it just so happens that we, because his perspective is killed non-whites. That's it. It's very heavily that. Yeah.

So instead today we will be going in there. Our time travel machine going back and honoring a request of one of our, one of our donors who donated on the time travel level. And again, if you'd like to support the show, you can go to knowledge fight.com, click, support the show. We do appreciate it. Indeed. And today we are fulfilling the, the request.

Prophecy. It is a pro is some prophetic. There's not. Okay. But today we are going back in time on the behest of policy wonk Ian who has told us to go back to June 11th, 2013. Oh, June 11th, 2013. Do you have any idea why we might be going back?

June 11th, 2013. So that's a eight years after Obama was reelected. And wait, wait, hold on. He stopped the Iraq war. That was when he, when he, Did you know that was when he was after he got reelected? Yeah. And that was when he closed Guantanamo Bay, right?

Uh, no, I think I might be living in the alternate reality where life isn't shit. Here's a clue of what we're going to be talking about. I hate myself every minute. I'm on this show. I agree. Good. Yeah.

Good. Good. You nailed it. So actually that's a little prophetic in terms of a public opinion. Not enough. Not enough, Alex. Um, so, uh, let's see. I don't think I want to tell you why, uh, this date was chosen.

You just, you just rather let it, uh, unfold in front of me. I think, uh, I think it'll be pretty clear, pretty quick. Okay. I'm not sure, but this was a good choice. I'll say that. Okay. All right. All right.

Here's where we start. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Tuesday, June 11th, 2013. I am your host, Alex Jones, and we are going to be live here Lord willing for the next three hours. Wow. It is good to be back in studio here in Austin, Texas by the grace of God. I was able to successfully transport over to the UK, uh, and have the biggest victory ever against the Bilderberg group.

He has just scored the biggest, biggest victory ever, ever against everybody or just for him, perhaps a personal record. Perhaps personal, right? Is this like right after? No, cause the interview that he did was like in 2011. That was June 9th, 2013. Okay. There it is.

There it is. There we go. So as a refresher, uh, the request was made to go back to this date because Alex Jones had just gone on BBC Sunday show, uh, and made a complete asshole of himself on June 9th. Yes. And then, uh, Mike Adams filled in for him on the 10th. Uh, and then we have here, uh, the 11th.

Just as a refresher for everyone who doesn't remember this moment in Alex Jones's history, here is a clip of Alex being a fuck, uh, on their show. Yes. I mean, if you talk to Alex for any length of time, you discover all kinds of things that you didn't know about the world. We've blown it wide open. Um, you have, you have absolutely blown it one up, but it leaves me with a huge question for you, Alex, and it's where you have uncovered the new world order,

which is deadly. It's full of what you call people who are criminals. Well, this is what I'm coming to. It's full of criminals, et cetera, who seek to run the world and will kill anybody who gets in their way. And you are almost to have been a lone crusader powering against them. So how come how, how are you still alive? Why am I, which is the explanation?

One, they don't exist. Right. To your part of the concern. No, let me tell you a story. Let me tell you a story. I say the first five years ago when Obama and Hillary, five years ago when Hillary and Obama were at Bilderberg and the secret service was there in helicopters, the New York Times came out and said, I was crazy.

There was no Bilderberg group meeting and my wife got phone calls and so did I threatening to kill us and the people said, and you better take it serious cause you were just talking to your dad that was in the hospital. You better shut your mouth or we're going to cut your head off. But now that note, that's the, they listened to everybody's phone lines. They call up and harass people that expose them and tell them and tell them what they were just talking about. They are going to say there's no spine.

Alex, I'm not Germany. Hold on. Only spy on the bad guys. Huh? You let him speak. I saw one of your ministers say this though. Alex, I'm here. I'm here to testify that your head was not cut off.

So if you, if you miss there at the end, a little shut up for a moment and then immediately, Alex is like info wars.com. I think that's actually like a verbal tick of his. If you tell him to shut up, he just says info wars.com. So of course like kick boss that interview does end with Alex screaming over them as they end the show. Right. And the guy, the host of the show saying you are the worst guest I've ever had.

We have an idiot on the program. Yep. That was a fun one. And then the host of course came out and said that as soon as the show went off the air, Alex went back to normal and started being like, Hey guys, how's it going? Yeah, we just did a great show there. Right?

Yeah. You got what you wanted. I look crazy. I got what I wanted. I look crazy. Yeah. So that is going to come back up Alex's feelings on it. I guess that's his victory over Bilderberg.

Maybe. I don't know. Yep. He did it because there's not a lot more in this episode that relates to that that he could be referencing, but most of this episode is probably you could say about TSA spying sort of. Okay. So TSA or NSA NSA.

Okay. I was like, is the TSA spying the transportation? Are they doing it? No, you know why I got confused. Cause if we're doing it, if they're spying on us, I don't want to take my fucking shoes off to get on a plane, right? You're already spying on me. You're right.

That's insult to injury. He's mad about the NSA spying, but he's also mad about TSA because he's gone from, uh, he had to go through customs on his way back from England. Right. So that's why I'm confusing the two. Cause he complains a lot about both of them. Suffice it to say, he's on board with Snowden. He's pretty thrilled with him.

He's mad that other people aren't. Um, and then, uh, he spends an inordinate amount of time on this episode talking about like ways that you can block the NSA spying on you and like trying to create right problems for them. Got to create rogue problems for the NSA. This doesn't track really well, but he says this a bunch. They've got keyword software. And by the way, the hackers today are countering all this with terrorist

terms online. Ladies and gentlemen, that is not what will jam this up. Okay. You talk about the latest patent you're about to go for. You talk about a medical development. Uh, you talk about how you caught a congressman doing something illegal. That will give them so many headaches. Talk about how you're a whistleblower.

That's going to go public. I've got a big whistleblower coming on today that will expose that, uh, Obama is trying to transfer nuclear weapons to al-Qaeda. Oh boy. That right there. I'll give them headaches for days. Talk about how you're going to try to stop a terror attack. They're running in a drill.

That gets flagged. They're there to make sure the terrorists attack us. So you want to jam it? Talk about making sure we stop terrorist. It's fake laugh. You're fake laugh. That's like, I got two seconds left till break. Got to fill it.

Haha, wait. I'm looking at my haha, okay. We're already committed to laughing a little bit. I keep it going. We're out to break. Human. Humans do this. Humans delight in fun.

That, um, I don't know, I don't know about that strategy. Uh, at what point does he just start saying human laughter instead of fake laughing, human laughing and they'll never catch us. Human laughter. If you're not following what he's saying in that clip, he's basically saying just talk about patents in front of your washing machine or your toaster. Yep. Cause they're listening to you and that'll get you swat team because Alexa,

right? You're just a, I'm going to stop a terrorist attack. Be cherries and berries coming down the block. Oh, you're going to get swat team can't help it. So I don't think that I don't think that happened. So they have like they have keyword trackers. Yes. That is obvious.

Sure. Cause of course they do. Yeah. Uh, but hackers are fighting back by flooding the internet with terrorism words. Well, yeah, I believe, I think I remember this a little bit. People's response seemed to be the like, if you could give enough false leads, it would overwhelm the software. Uh-huh.

So if you could just constantly be writing stuff about bombs or IEDs or something like that, they, there was a belief that you could trick, uh, wild goose chases for the NSA to make it not worth their time or not, uh, like financially viable to use this system. But if I know anything about the system, it's that it was already ridiculous and that it did not work because it was already flooded with too much information when you're, when you're monitoring the domestic communications of the entire country.

Oh, I'm sure there's so much information there that you can't possibly find a, a needle in that haystack. The only reason you have that is so if you want to find something, you know where to look for it. Of course, but like that is a reasonable response for someone to have like a, just a first thought kind of thing. Like this makes sense that this would be a way to, to get around this set off every alarm and then the whole system will be moot.

Right. Uh, but I don't know. Alex's strategy seems more fun. I just picture all of his listeners yelling at toasters about shit. We're going to stop terrorism. You're not that brave. You piece of shit. You and me toaster.

We're going to get to the bottom of this. So Alex's perception there is a little screwy and I think he's doing his listeners a disservice by misrepresenting what had come out about the NSA and what have you, but one of the reasons I believe that he's misrepresenting things is because I don't think he understands reality or as evidenced by this, this next clip. He talks about going through the TSA line and what he's describing. Okay.

I believe is a very positive encounter with somebody. Okay. I hear this. I hear this description and I will say that all I hear is a TSA agent being polite and courteous, maybe even going above and beyond their responsibilities. Okay. Alex feels like he's being attacked.

Okay. And it's super thin soup. Just like our government is caught shipping in the majority of narcotics, but then I fly into the country and went through four checkpoints in Dallas. Now for four checkpoints, getting back into the US and had the customs people with my passport saying, this expires in a year and a half. You need to get a new one. And I said, wow, you're really on a power trip.

Do you know who I am thinking? She was persecuting me and she goes, no. And I, and I said, well, is it illegal to have a passport that expires in a year and a half? Well, I just think you need to get a new one. Is there something wrong with this one? And she just sits there staring at me. It was like, you know, Janet Reno type.

Sure. Sure. She was a Janet Reno type. I hear what does that mean? I don't know. I don't care. All I hear there is essentially someone being like, Hey, this is going to expire soon. You should probably, you know, be vigilant and, you know, get a new one.

Cause I think that's exactly what I heard as well. I think it's a really nice thing to do because passports expire like once every 10 years or something like that. It's very easy to forget. Yeah. Yeah, I would have no idea what my passport expires. Literally saying that was like, Oh, this, uh, this expires in a year. You might want to think about it.

It's probably a smart idea to get a new one. It's easier to get a new one before it expires than the whole process. You're going to have to go through afterwards. Oh man. That is undoubtedly someone just trying to be considered the nicest thing that you could say, but she's sitting up there on a power trip like Janet Reno. You must be power tripping right now. I don't even understand why that is a power trip.

Even, even if she is saying that maliciously or saying that in the most possible way you can be malicious with that, I still don't see how that's a power trip. No. And she clearly let him use this one. So it's not like you can't use this. It expires in a year and a half. Yeah, that's stupid. No, that doesn't make any sense.

Also, none of this makes sense. Also, the way he said it too is like really suspect. And that is that like, uh, she said that you need to get a new one. It expires in a year and a half. And I said, do you know who I am? Because I thought she was persecuting me. Right. That means you're ready to be persecuted wherever you go and you're looking for it.

Now, here's my working thesis on this. Mm hmm. Alex Jones doesn't fly internationally all that much. Of course not. He has very few opportunities to get his own personal story about being harassed by TSA agents and customs people. Right. So he needs to make the most out of it whenever it happens.

Right. And when it's something like this that's super polite, he's got to like, hmm, see what I can do with this. See if I can change your tone just slightly. Now we got to go back and every time Alex has taken an international flight, I imagine the next day there has been a bitching about like it's, it's him. It's his version of being like, really, I have to take my shoes off because one guy put a bomb in there one time 10 years ago.

Like he's just bitching about it. Well, he's jealous of people who actually get singled out, i.e. not white people. Right. And he wants his own claim to victim hood. Right. And he doesn't have one. So he has to say like, oh my God, she was so considerate to me.

But the way I'm presenting it is I was a victim. Yeah. I was such a victim. I had a, the worst TSA experiment or experience I had was coming back from London and I was almost home. I was almost home. I was right to the very last checkpoint at O'Hare. And this fucking guy, it's like eight in the morning.

I've been on the plane for nine hours. I've got my headphones in clearly. I can't see straight. And this guy was just a fucking dick to me the whole time would not fucking. I just wanted to try and hand him the fucking ID and he's like slapping away. He's like headphones. Get your headphones out. Just screaming out to be fair.

It's exactly the worst. Experience. That's, that's what I'm saying. Okay. It wasn't that bad. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:43,700 It was, and it was 50 50 on me, you know, and this was a very polite interaction. Absolutely. I see nothing. Anyway, let's finish this clip. But so far I see zero to be worried about Alex. This is not a totalitarian stomping all over you in terms of what is politeness, but not the totalitarianism of the kind to make a fair point.

And then a pilot walks over and says, I just want to shake your hand. They don't mess with the pilots too much because they'll throw fits and get back in their face. And then I was going through waiting for my reporter to come through. I was just down the hall, you know, towards the next checkpoint and they're like, don't wait. Get out of here. But it was, and I just watched them like just being rude to everybody. And then, and then we had to go back through TSA again. And it was incredible.

That's not, this is weak. Incredible. This is very weak. We had to go back through there again. They were being rude to people, very vague and like, all right, sure. Maybe they would be nice if they were nicer. Yeah. What?

They, they process like a thousand people every hour or something and saying like that. And of course, and some of those people are way bigger assholes than. Absolutely. If you've ever worked in any kind of customer service situation, you know, assholes abound for no reason, let alone one fraught with anxiety over traveling. Tensions are so high. Exactly. And you're even treated like a criminal before even, you know, like that whole thing.

Before 9 11 tensions were high at airports because a lot of people are anxious about flying. Yep. A lot of it is really tight schedules and because of the nature of weather and things that are completely outside of our control, sometimes flights get delayed and become complete disasters for people. Like it's a really stressful experience. Just if there never was a TSA, if there never was terrorism, it would still be a scary or at least stressful experience to have to fly places again.

Yeah. So these people in a vacuum, it makes sense why they would be rude, a little rude. They get far more slack than so many other rude people that you can experience. Tell and tell it gets to a point where it's abusive and then all against them. Yeah. No, they can do. They can go fuck themselves. What I'm here in here is zero.

This is a zero or a, hey, have a great day. Like that's what I'm giving these TSA agents confused about the pilot stereotype. Is that a known thing that pilots do? I feel like we're also, I mean, I don't know, but I also think we're past the point where like pilots being drunk is a stereotype that the youth probably understand. Right. You know, like that used to be the thing in sitcoms that like all the pilots are drunk. Yeah.

But now I think everybody is, I think most pilots aren't drunk. No, I don't, I don't know. Or at least if they, or at least they're better at hiding it. But I don't know if they ever were, but it was that like sitcom stereotype. Yeah. And I think it's gone now for the kids. Well, Denzel did it and now we're, we finished. Was that that man on fire?

Hey, how's it going? Call back. We've only got one Denzel reference. It's the only movie that exists. So, um, it was not all bad. Yeah. For Alex at the airport. He did end up meeting one super woke TSA agent that I don't think, I like it.

I don't think exists. You should get it. And they're like, please just go and they're like, please just go, go. And they got, we can laugh and do the pat down, but just, and the guy's like, I know the NSA spying on us. I know it's all crap. I just need this job. By the way, a lot of us know what's going on.

Don't be so hard on us. And those were all the nice ones. It was the head ones giving orders that were like shoes off photo open to the page. I told you thought up to the page and they were sitting there just obsessive compulsively. The guy looked just like the person we're showing on the TV screen of your prison planet on TV viewer. He's basically, it means shows a screenshot from the South Park episode about the TSA. Gotcha.

And he's basically just describing the plot of that episode. That might be more what he's doing. Yeah. Fascistic people yelling. The guy who's, who's woke. Sounds like he's on meth. Yeah. Also sounds like it doesn't exist.

I know. I know the NSA spying on us. I know that they're doing it. I think what you're doing is great. Alex should be like, bring, bring, bring back the, the, I need a new passport lady. Please, please, please, please. Yeah. Hmm.

Hmm. Scary. I wouldn't want it. I wouldn't want a secret secret. I know. Secret TSA messages. I don't want that guy. I, I would love a conspiratorial wink from a TSA agent.

Just like, Hey, you know, this is all beating was right. Yeah. Come on. Come on. We just want it. We just want to find your news. Oh man. I have stolen so many pairs of shoes.

People forget to take it with them. I don't even care. Finger guns. TSA agent. We're having a good time. See, now that'd be fun. Why don't, why don't more people turn the TSA experience into like like a fun little, what?

Uh, I, what I'm saying is I want TSA to be more like cheers. Oh, sure. Like when you go through the line, everybody should scream norm. Oh, like the TSA line is where everyone knows your name. Exactly. That means you fly too much. Yeah. Um, so in this next clip, we, this is like, this is my kind of fun

right here at this next clip. So, um, in the time that Alex was over in England, I guess, um, a Bloomberg article came out about how he uses conspiracy and fear to sell gold and Alex, yeah, which is, uh, one of those no duh things. Uh, but Alex takes, can't trust them. Bloomberg, Bilderberg, Bloomberg, done. Very similar. Done.

Alex, Alex proved it. Alex has some pretty serious problems with people saying that he's trying to sell gold. Yeah. Look at the Bloomberg headline. Alex Jones sells gold on Sirius with bombing conspiracies and Paul Watson's got an article about it going up on info wars.com the next hour, just just countering some of the perfect time for an iPad.

And again, why are they shooting at me politically? By the way, we hardly sell any gold. Gold is one of the smallest sponsorships we've got. Uh, unfortunately, I wish I could get more money and fund more stuff. We got a good gold sponsor, high quality, good prices started promoting gold, but you know, 300 bucks an ounce or less. Perfect. I spent up to almost 2000, you know, I've never sold any of the gold I've

bought or sell for to promote silver. It was $5. Didn't sell any of the stuff I haven't went to 50. Those down to 30 didn't sell any of it. It's an emergency for collapsing society. So that's that's sort of an ad pivot sort of that is that is that is a as much an ad pivot as you could reasonably do without it literally being like, we're barely, uh, sponsored by Midas resources, Midas resources, which

has the best sales right now. They have gold for $300 an ounce. You couldn't beat that sale. And it's so good that I've always held on to it. And I've, I'll never let it go. How dare they say that all I want to do is sell gold. I don't want to sell gold. I'm giving gold away.

I want to hoard it. Um, the other thing too is that this I think is an FEC or FTC violation because he's presenting, uh, Midas resources as a sponsor, as opposed to the parent company of the, uh, of the info wars. That's right. They own it entirely. Well, not own it entirely, but they own, uh, the company that syndicates him and so they are, their relationship is very different than just being

a sponsor of the show. They are responsible for syndication and for it being on radio stations around the country, which is not ownership, but it's beyond sponsorship. And the, the, uh, the nature of the ads that a lot of Alex Jones's ads are Genesis communications network ads, right? That are run through the network, which is owned by, uh, Midas resources. Yeah. So therefore the Midas resources owns the ads that are paying Alex Jones revenue.

It's very complicated. And the fact that he says that their sponsors is fucked up and then it's fucked up because we know we've seen just how desperately he tries to sell gold. And like the idea that he's saying, we barely sell gold. It's like you exist to sell gold. Have you not heard of our soap? I think I have got a limerick for you about how we never sell gold. Well, but like, I don't know.

Maybe Bob Chapman isn't around as much anymore. And, uh, maybe Alex doesn't remember how shameful he was in 2009. But like that, that to me was like, how dare you? I mean, I understand you want to buck back at Bloomberg, the triple B, but, uh, I still think it's awful. It's awful to hear this sort of thing. Like, dude, just cop to it. You sell gold and silver.

You're fine. Yeah, it's not really a problem. You might be committing a crime in terms of misrepresenting it, but it's not really a crime. And it's not really that big of a deal considering what else does Fox News sell, but like things that are for, you know, for fear and old people. It's mostly old people, gimmicky stuff. Yeah, that's true.

I have seen on TV type nonsense. That's as big of a crime as gold. Yeah. At least gold is useful and doesn't break down after three weeks. Easier to scam people with gold though. That's true. You can manipulate the value and shit like that. Or at least the margins are better as a scam.

Yeah. Then as seen on TV. You can say things are different carrots than they will have you. Um, so in this next clip, Alex Jones gets into another thing. That's going to be a theme throughout this episode. And that is, um, he wants, he wants you to know that he's in danger and, uh, he's been, uh, he's been scared. I mean, Bloomberg is a creepy gangster.

Bloomberg and Silverstein have openly had their people come up to our reporters in New York on video. It's in my film. It's truth rising and said, listen, we're going to say your camera's a bomb. We're going to put you in jail for 30 days, maybe longer. You're not allowed to have this demonstration. And we have the permits. We're here and they said, look with pipes that's going to listen here as a,

you know, guys in suits with pipes talking like worse than good fellas. I mean, if they walked on a Hollywood set, they would have the job as the, as the, as the thugs, but they're worse than good fellas. Yeah. Yeah. They're bad fellas or average fellas. I guess they're worse. Yeah.

Yeah. Good. Or medium. I don't believe that. I'll just, you know, I reject that as a idea of a thing that happened. I'm just a big fan of a, any conversation that begins with, listen, we're going to say your cameras are bombs.

Hey Jordan, Jordan. I'm going to say your phone's a bomb. I mean, at least it's upfront and honest. I don't like people who bounce around the issues. I don't like people who do a little dance trying to get you this way and that way. I love the pre up front and honest. If you're going to say that something I'm bringing with me as a bomb,

I love the pretending that these guys were walking around with pipes too. Like that. Oh yeah. There's other weapons. No, there's regular pipe. There's, there's actually a concealed pipe carry law in New York is going around in New York. Oh yeah.

That's true. I read about that. The NPA is harshly against me. I read about that on Bloomberg. It's really in favor of carrying laws for pipes. Yep. So Alex gets death threats too. You should know that.

Okay. And then people like Luke Radowski, you know, real quick. Luke Radowski, if you don't remember is the guy who's from We Are Change. Oh, who is in for war is adjacent. I don't know if he's an actual employee, but he pops up a lot. And I'm getting death-threaded at home. Family getting death-threaded. The kind of calls where they're listening to your phone on and tell you

what you're talking about. He gets those. I don't know those calls. No one does. Do your family are dead. And by the way, you know, we're listening to you. You just said this earlier. Yeah, that's right.

Of those kind of calls. I mean, this is who runs the government. I mean, they can kill whoever they want all over the world. They love it. It's a mafia. It's their country now. And this is the kind of stuff Luke's been arrested for just asking Bloomberg a question.

I'm sure that's not why. My reporters have been arrested. I mean, these are thugs. These are dirtbag gangsters and I'm going head up against them. So we need your prayers first and foremost. And we need your monetary support because we need to expand in the face of this new world order. This is like watching a baby learn to crawl.

He's really, he's really close to that ad pivot level. I mean, that is, that is an ad pivot. Yeah, but it wasn't talking about fear and how his reporters are being arrested and he's going to die and they're getting these cryptic phone calls that tell you what you've been saying and stuff like that. Yeah, that was new. He's using fear as a way to raise your emotional state.

Right. And then mention we need your money because of these things I'm scaring you about. So it is the primordial ooze from which the ad pivot grew. Yeah, it got, it got good. This is not yet like 2015 ad pivots where they're better. Oftentimes, uh, astonishingly good. Yeah.

I think, I think, uh, 2013, as I recall, is pretty early in his supplement, uh, company. This is when it begins. Well, I don't know what month it started in, but I believe it was 2013 when things got going with a couple of supplements. Yeah. Uh, so he's not, he's not into that mode yet, but I still want your money. You know, those calls that you get all the time, uh, where they're

like, Hey, I've been listening to you. Right. Here's what you were talking about earlier and you're like, right. Uh-huh. You know those. Oh yeah. Haven't you had that experience so many times in the past? Uh, yeah.

Is he talking about like, I think we're talking about like 1950s operator type phone calls where they're actually in somebody listening. Yeah. You're talking about like, uh, like small towns would have. Yeah. Exactly. Like a party line going.

Yeah. No, I don't. What is he talking about? I don't know. I think it's something that, um, I mean, it sounds good in terms of scary, you know, does it? Well, yeah. I mean, if you, if you, uh, if you believe, uh, all of his ideas

about the nature of the spying that's going on, right, it does track that someone would be listening to him and would be like, uh, Hey, I'm going to kill you. And here's what you were talking about earlier. It works. If you're already in, I think, but if you're not and you look at it, you're like, I don't think that happens. That's absurd.

I think that's just silly. I think that's silly. That's not, that's not even effective threat. If somebody did that to me, I'd be like, are you, are you okay? Hey, man, are you bored? What do you, what else can't you be doing something else? The, the, um, how do you feel? About what we just talked about.

The other thing is that the, the, the British guy in the clip we played at the top of the show is the best, uh, logical response to it. It's like, no one would do that. They just kill you. Yeah. What are you talking about? Why would they bother you?

Yeah. Why, why would they do it? You're a fucking loud mouth guy who screams about everything and has no filter on the radio. If we threaten you, you're going to talk about it. Yeah. Why would we do that? And not just serve anyone's interest.

It's so either, so that's the, so either they're not real or he's part of the conspiracy. Our position since day one has been, they're not real. Right. So I think I'm going to stick with that one. But even like the idea that he has of like, they can't kill me. I'm too publicly against them.

00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,800 He's like, no, it really would not be hard to kill you because there are so many alternate explanations for why you could die, but that's why he could die of literally any kind of like, Oh, he had a heart attack and everybody be like, yeah, he totally had a heart attack. That's why he's built into his narrative that the globalists can kill you through giving you a heart attack and like wave weapons and stuff like that.

Right. And you even heard that on our last episode of the Project Camelot guy. His associate Vince was killed. Vinny. They gave him a heart attack. Vinny the caver. Right.

They gave him a heart attack. It's, it's walking around carrying pipes. Vinny. It's consistent throughout these paranoid folk that like the idea is anything that's natural causes probably isn't. It's, it could be suspicious. So no matter how I die, believe the worst. Right.

So yeah, that, I mean, Okay. Well, then just shoot him. Well, we saw what happened with that with Seth Rich, right? You know, in terms of people not believing a shooting could be just something that unfortunately happens. Right. But if nothing, if, if it,

There is no explanation matters. There is no explanation that satisfies the paranoid mind. Exactly. So then it doesn't matter. But they, they don't exist. So they're not going to kill him. I know they don't exist. But I'm second of all, they don't exist.

So they're not making this phone call, but even if they did exist, they wouldn't be making that phone call. Only a child would think that's a good way to go about things. And if this is a organization that's been behind the scenes for hundreds of years since before the invention of the telephone, right? They fucking know they're like, uh, this isn't the best way to go about this.

This guy is, uh, you know, he's not threatenable, but he is viable. So, uh, maybe we invest in his gold company might not be a bad idea. I think that would be the way someone would go about it. I think if, if anyone wanted to corrupt Alex, it would not be through threats or anything like that. It would be through greenbacks or just saying nice things about

him. Sure. Flattery works. Yep. Flattery and money work. Yeah. You can save a lot of money by just saying nice things about Alex.

Yeah. We'll do whatever you want. Um, so, uh, earlier in the show, we did see an example of him trying to explain the best way to try and jam up the NSA spying. Yes. Uh, and then he does by yelling at your toaster. He goes about it.

Uh, uh, here in the show and he makes a, uh, just the way this spins is so funny to me. Jam the networks with messages about terror attack bombing al-Qaeda. That is not what jams it. Uh-uh. Let me tell you what I'm very. Yes, we have photos of the defense intelligence operatives

that were there with the patsies in command of them on April 15th, and we're releasing that data. We're releasing that data today at two o'clock central. Now that will flag all the computers out there. All of them. Now we don't actually have that. Okay. Which is cool.

But cool that part will not flag the computers saying that you do. Yeah. Flags immediately following it up with I was lying does not flag. Uh, I am bluffing quite seriously. I just like his no, no, no, no guys. You're telling the wrong lies.

You're lying wrong. Right. You don't even know how to lie. Yeah. I'm good at this. Yeah. Um, so April 15th is in reference to the Boston bombing. He's talking about the, uh, the Boston bombing because I,

I, I, uh, I've been, I've been looking into this a little bit and I think that, um, as much as he became popular after nine 11, uh, and his stock grew quite a bit. Uh, I think that, uh, the post Boston bombing period for him was probably the most like the modern, uh, most organic growth he's seen because of the, um, it's what, it was one of the early ones I know that I remember the internet conspiracy community going buck wild along with him.

Yeah. Like in terms of like trying to search through pictures to try and find culprits and stuff like that. The internet sleuthing community went crazy. Yeah. And there's a decent chance that there was more of it even before this that I just don't realize, but I know it went pretty crazy in terms of like very irresponsibly pinning the blame

on various people. Yeah. They, they fucked up a few people's lives. Yeah. There were, there were some pretty serious consequences from it and I know that Alex, uh, made a lot of hay out of that. Uh, and so this is right in the, uh, the, the, uh, what would you call it right after that?

It's sort of in the, uh, the evening of the honeymoon period. Yeah. Yeah. Where things are still like, I think he's, he's gaining a lot of momentum and he went over to England, screamed at them for a little bit and always a good idea. Absolutely. If you're from Texas, you have to go to England at least once

and scream at somebody on TV. Yeah. Yeah. And so in that clip, it's their Mecca. He's, he's positing, uh, and bringing up this idea that, uh, he's going to reveal the evidence that he's right. And, uh, these people were patsies and stuff. Now, admittedly, he doesn't have, he doesn't have it.

He also does say it later that like, uh, he's already put it out. I don't think he has. I don't even know he doesn't have it. He doesn't have it. I don't know any, I don't, I've looked, I've looked at his proof and I find it to be weak. Um, but, uh, I do think that he would like to present his

trip to, uh, the UK as a smashing success. First of all, the greatest victory of all time over the Bilderbergs. Absolutely. Um, but I think he's bent out of shape a little bit about the interview. I think he's in a bad headspace, uh, and, uh, that comes out in this next club.

I don't care. I make a break with you now. I see you. I know who you are and I say, attack me all you want. I don't care. Give it all to me. Whatever it is, whatever, whatever happens, I want the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

So help me God almighty. I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal resistance and defiance over every form of tyranny over the mind of humankind. So that clip starts with him saying, I don't care if you make fun of me. And I think it's because a lot of people were making fun of him.

Yeah, I think, I think, I think the, uh, rational minds see that UK interview and you hear the guy being like, I've got an idiot in studio and you're like, you do. Yeah. You do. This is, this was rough. So shut up, please. Yeah.

Sorry, had to go through that. This guy constantly interrupting and we'll have you. And I think that he's probably getting a little bit of blowback about that. And so he's, he's kind of on edge a little bit like, fuck, I don't care if you make fun of me. It's proof that I'm right. Right.

That sort of thing. Right, right, right. Because all I care about is vigilance and God. I like, I'm, I'm always like, I don't know what it is, but there is something programmed and into humankind that Southern Baptist revivalist preacher talk is just like that, that form that, that cadence is just so seductive. Like there's a reason that, uh, there were, there were fucking

kids like, uh, like Marjo in the twenties leading that spiritualist revivalist movement, having 20,000 people at their, at their fucking shows. Yeah. Like it's just such a fun. Oh, and I can see into the heart of God and he tells me that you are lying, sir. There's a lyrical quality to it.

That, uh, it evokes like, uh, uh, oral tradition, cultures of the past. Oh, for sure. Like storytellers and, uh, you know, even to a certain extent rappers, you know, like, uh, there's a, there's a rhythmicness to it, uh, that is infectious. Right. And, uh, yeah.

Well, I'm with so many, with so many comics after, you know, you, you can tell 20 minutes of good jokes and then you can just ride on the rhythm taken care of you. Like your next 20 can be boring, but people are so ensconced in this, in this like reaction to the rhythm that they'll laugh at anything. Or, or even just like your, uh, your rhythm can make your, uh, your style, uh, legendary, even, even like,

uh, not to say the jokes weren't good, but someone like Mitch Hedberg, right, wouldn't be revered as he is or Stephen Wright, you know, like they, they just have perfect, uh, ways of speaking that you get caught up in and you want to, you want to follow their rhythms. Yeah. One of the, one of, one of, one of Mitch Hedberg's later jokes was a, what if the headless horseman had

a headless horse that would be fucking chaos. And you're like, that's, there's nothing, but the way he says it, you're like, that's great. Yeah. That's hilarious. You can take your fantastic. Yeah. And it's the, the rhythm over the content.

Yeah. Um, yeah, there's something, something to that. Um, but this is an interesting next clip. Yeah. Um, because in it, uh, Alex makes a point that I think is weird. Um, and that is, uh, that he believes, uh, this is, this is a particularly tough time for us to hear this

sort of thing. Oh, no. But, uh, no, he wants to make the point that whites know have a real tough time at the border. Nope. I walked over to the intermediate, you know, a border checkpoint flying back in. I walked over nicely and said, hello, handed her

my passport. Hello. Praying that they wouldn't act like power tripping obsessive compulsive mental patients. And tell me that maybe I should get a new passport because mine is going to expire eventually. And you know what? She did because I was watching him dress down, give little

orders, dominate and feed their power ego. And if you, if you look like you were a foreigner, if you look like you didn't, you know, you couldn't speak English. He almost said, you don't belong here. You heard that be there, you know, but if you look like you were. You weren't, you were right through. It was citizens.

It was milk cows. It was good looking women. It was, it was people with kids that need to be dressed down because the message, even in the TSA ads, this was border patrol customs. Even in the TSA ads, it says we want you to be imperious. Imperious. Acting arrogant and imperial.

They want our will broken. They want it broken. Now all of its Pavlovian conditioning. I think he has a word of day calendar and I was going to say I don't even know if he's using that the way that he is. He's not, he's not far off. I don't know. I don't think it always necessarily has a conversation of

imperial, but now I have to, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Erigent dis, sort of displays of power do, do fall under imperiousness. Yeah, I see the reason that that is, is an incorrect usage of that word is because imperious suggests that they're taking power without justification for it. Right.

It does. And in this situation, no, it's kind of their job to do that. Like they have a justification for it. If this is an argument I'm not super interested in because you could, you know, I could see someone on Alex's side or that world easily making the argument that they take too much power and it the ends. Don't justify the means in terms of, you know, the scrutiny

that people are forced to go under. I agree with that argument entirely. Yeah. So the imperiousness is I'm going to give him a pass on the word. I'm not going to give him a pass on the fucking racism. That's, that's my bigger issue. I don't think I'm even going to give him a pass on the word.

Mr. Grammer over here. I'm going to, I'm going to take a step back and say it's really fucked up that he's saying that, Hey, anybody who looks like they're foreign and what have you, they just get sent right on through. But the citizens who milk cows who we don't know what they look like. I think Alex knows what they fucking look like.

Anybody could be a citizen. We know one example of what they look like. And it's Alex. So we know that it's white people is what he's referring to. This is the sort of thing that's like, yes, that doesn't, that doesn't match up in terms of scale with like, if you have Richard Spencer throwing n words around or something like cage the Jews or something like that, right?

It doesn't rank in terms of a sound, sound bite, but boy, howdy, that is as racist as like a thought can be. It absolutely is because he's categorizing people who don't look American as being non whites. Right. And that's, that's a problem, which again, the entire point of America is that anybody here looks American. Sure.

That's kind of who we are. That's what you'd hope for. Yep. You know, that whole melting pot overrated. Yeah, I like to, I like to eat out. I prefer broth. I don't like to cook. Give me, give me milk.

Give me milk cows. Heat it up. So we get back now on this episode. We get back to the BBC situation. Yes. And you might be surprised to hear Alex great band name. The BBC situation. Yeah, that's not bad.

The BBB, the BBC S you might be surprised to hear Alex's take on how everything went down. I'm not, but how he ends this clip is jarring. I was on BBC on their live show, you know, their big meet the press shut up Alex, one of their top rated shows of the week. You're an idiot. You know, the Queen of England and people go on it. And I just shut them down.

I broke the trance. I got in their face. I said, I'm not playing games here. And when the cameras, when they went to break, I stopped yelling over him because we were going to break. And then I turned on my iPhone. I haven't even uploaded this yet because I was so busy and uploaded today and I interviewed them behind the scenes like

I did the Bilderberg group member. They're treasury secretary balls. Balls. And he goes, he goes, this is all fake. This is all an act. And I said, no, it's not. He goes, well, you just stopped yelling. And I said, well, the show's over.

I was yelling over you. I was dominating you. And then he went back on and said that I was a fake and that it was all an act. You know, this is what they want. They want you to believe that there's no one real. Okay. So do they want you to believe that or do they realize you are

not, I would suggest that there's just a difference in definitions. I would say that my definition of someone who's real is not someone who screams over the other person and delights in dominating them by yelling info wars.com over them instead of engaging with the ideas that the other person's putting forth. That's not dominating. That's being a baby. It's being a fucking child on British television and looking

like a crass asshole. And the fact that he stops as soon as the camera is off, it doesn't mean that it's fake, but it just means that like it's a show to him. Yeah. And he's even admitting that in that clip that like when he's saying that like, they think they want you to think that no one's real.

It's like, no, we think you're real, but the reality for you is this is all bullshit. Right. So it's a little, it's a little bit of a mixture. You know, in a certain sense, I can actually respect that argument though. I can't. I mean, no, I mean, in the sense that Alex was really worked

up as he's presenting himself to be on the British show. Yeah. He would not stop saying, you guys, you don't fucking understand what you're a part of. Do you understand that there are people, these are globalists, they're trying to take everybody down. I have all these documents. Let me pull them up on my phone.

He would continue trying to get his point across to them after they got off air, or he would scream at them and say, you're part of the problem. Why? Or he would just leave. Yeah. One of those three. Or he would just check out because his answer isn't like he

would just performatively stop screaming and then hang around. Right. That's not what would happen. Well, I'm just trying to put myself into into that idea of like, if I am going on TV, if I am like, let's say against all odds, somehow fucking Hannity invites me on. I could see it to pretend that he has something to say. I think Tucker might be a better possibility.

I might kill him. But I mean, he might be more in your rent neighborhood. Then I would absolutely because what I'm doing is I'm talking to the people listening to the show. There's no talking to Tucker. Tucker's dead. He has nothing on the inside and he's a joke as well. So when the cameras are off, I'm just going to go.

Like, why would I continue talking to him? He's dead to me. Alex didn't just go. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. So there's hung around and he shook hands. That's a good point. So you would keep screaming at him after that.

Okay. That's good. That's a good point. I would need to be escorted out of the Fox News. It's funny. You should bring that up because Alex does end up getting escorted out, but I don't think more is like a dude. You got to go.

I, I, yeah. Cause I don't, I don't think it was like a getting thrown out of the BBC thing, but I think he just for his own protection or whatever, got some security guards to take him out and here, or even just like, dude, you don't belong here anymore. We don't need you in this life. You're gone. You're, your, your services have been rendered.

There's no after party to hang out at. No. And here is where Alex talks about that, about the security guards and he says something that I do not believe is true. That's all they can do. And then of course they had security running in as well. I knew if I yelled, that would give them the pretext to maybe even arrest me.

But then when I got down to the bottom with the security, they walked over and they said, you know, we're former police here and they said, what you said about the seven, seven bombing and demand as is absolutely right. How did you know that? I said, well, what's right? And they said exactly what you said, what that guy was, you know, that, that was an assassination, the drills, all of

it and these cops, one in them and on the elevator and the one that followed us out literally had tears in his eyes. Again, he goes, you're absolutely right. I was like, because they know folks, they know the government did that. So he's talking about seven, seven bombing. What Alex is probably operating off and I think probably most of his awareness about that event comes from a movie called

seven, seven ripple effect. It's a documentary about the seven, seven bombing. It's basically the British seven, seven bombing equivalent of loose change. Gotcha. It was directed by a guy named Muad Dib. But that, of course, is a fake name. Does not.

It's actually Muad Dib. It's taken from Dune. It's a fake name taken from. I know it's taken from Dune. It's Muad Dib. All right. He is the fucking, it's Paul Atreides, my friend. Now he becomes Muad Dib.

Do you want to go into all this? All right. So you have to go through, he takes the concentrated spice and that kills all men who take it, but it's the same thing that Reverend Mothers take in the Bene Gesserit. All right. So when they take the Bene Gesserit, it's like a ritual and they take this and they have to use their, like biological

powers to process it and that then liquid becomes now. The interesting thing is that Paul Atreides mom wasn't supposed to have a son. She was supposed to have another because the Muad Dib was supposed to be two generations on her. His dad was actually a Harkonnen, like it's crazy. So anyways, what's, what are we talking about? I think you want to talk more about Dune?

I want to talk more about Dune. No, I love Dune. So then was the fake name of the director Paul's son and his daughter. All right. All right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I did it again. The director's real name is John Hill. Turns out he's a British guy who may or may not be crazy. Well, he likes Dune from an article plus one in my book from an article in the BBC quote a document from Muad Dib's website reveals he believes he is the Messiah and that George Lucas wrote Star Wars after being told telepathically what to write by the very force to which the films refer.

So that's part of his worldview. Interesting. So he's living in both Dune and Star Wars. Oh yeah. He's he's out there. Most of his evidence that 777 was fake was it all comes back to the fact that they he he's reporting that there was a drill on the same day that the police were engaging in which if

you'll pay attention to Alex that's pretty much what he says every single time as well. Now you can go case by case on these and I can't speak to every single supposed drill that Alex will talk about but as it relates to the 777 one in this BBC article about it they point out very clearly quote Peter power a former Scotland yard of police officers power. Do we have to do this with every fucking name?

People have weird names. I'm sorry. Where do these people come from? I don't know. Muaddi, Peter power. Let's just get through this. Okay. So PP is a former Scotland yard police officer and he says

that the 777 on 777 the exercise that was run the drill was an office based drill and involved just six people from a publishing company. So it was just an internal office exercise that was run. What would be the response to certain things right and you know it's unfortunate horrible coincidence that act did go down on the same day as this yeah but in the past I've looked into this because it does seem always very suspicious and

one of the things you find is that like you know police departments run fucking drills all the time there's multiple on each day. Yeah, you know there's some like every city in every you know principality every day there's going to be something generally right sort of like let's test our response to X Y and Z and that sort of thing. So it the law of coincidence doesn't bent by this you know

like it's not broken. It's like it's like if you've ever if you've ever like lifted a phone to call somebody right and you find out that at that moment they're called you. Yeah, you know it's like that's the craziest thing that's ever happened but you think about all the calls that are happening all the time every single day. It's inevitable that that happens fairly regularly.

Yeah, to some extent, but there's a it feels meaningful and it feels like this is very suspicious that sort of thing and I get it. I get why people would be very suspicious about that but I don't think that it's like a damning indictment of anything like especially in the case of this where they've talked about it's like it was a tiny thing that was in office that clearly has nothing to do with the running of multiple attacks

right and shit like that right. It's absolute nonsense. So anyway, Alex his belief about 777 being fake largely comes back to this documentary that was written by a guy who believes in the force and thinks he's a messiah and goes by a name from Dune and a lot of his evidence is bogus right so fun. I love that cops came up to you and cried about it. I think you're lying.

Now this is interesting this next clip. Yes, because this is free. The episode we when we talked about Ferguson. Okay. All right. Alex's response was very much people are burning stuff down cop killed a guy. I think it was totally fine.

Right. We hypothesize it's because he wasn't white. But Alex has a very interesting take on riots. So it is not about how Paula Trady's son know I merges with sandfish and actually becomes a sandworm him cell named Peter power and lives for roughly you know a few thousand years and alters the entire course of human evolution which eventually leads to the great scattering.

No, was that the sequel to Highlander? No, that one they go to space for some reason. Right. Very strange movie. So this this is a clip where Alex expresses some very interesting thoughts about riots. I salute the Chinese people seven thousand plus riots on record a year against tyranny cops kill some innocent personally burn

down a city. What? So that's a good thing. Very weird. So that's a good thing. Very weird when the cops kill somebody we should have a riot and burn the city down. Well, that's what he's saluting the Chinese for.

I think that makes perfect sense and you can't say that it's because they have like a authoritarian government because he fucking thinks that Obama was an authoritarian dictator and that we were living under basically a totalitarian state already. Right. So the idea but here's the here. I've gotten a floor on their water.

So there we go. That is why there it is nails it down. See that's why the Chinese can handle it. They land it home. That's why they have the balls and the strength to riot. Right. If a cop kills somebody then you burn a town down because you don't have that fluoride clogging up your brain.

Meanwhile, not six months later or whatever the verdict comes down the Michael Brown case and they were you know they don't burn down a city but you know there's some there's some rioting property damage a little bit of property damage and you know for us to say that you know protests led to that is us minimizing the nature of the situation but Alex's take on that is look at these dumb dumb assholes trust the police and shit like that.

I don't understand where the I don't understand where the line is it makes absolutely no sense and this isn't one that I can really toss away really easily like when we're looking in the past looking at 2009 and the positions that he's had that have changed. I think that there's enough time for something to have happened that flips him. Yeah, I think he's just racist.

Just yeah, there's no other explanation. I think he's just scared of black people. Yep. Having agency and having being mad being justifiably mad about systematic abuses of police. It's it's interesting to me the because like the more we go through this the more Alex's insanity doves to dovetails perfectly with just the the mental gymnastics that so many

white people require in order to justify them not being racist. Do you know what I'm saying like all of this worldview all of this insanity is built around the idea that he believes all people equally are affected by tyranny and yet at the same time he makes all of these rules where it's like yeah we are see overarching we are all underneath tyranny right but it just so happens that all of the rules that I built into it mean that white people are under more tyranny than

everybody else. Well the essential piece of creating the tyranny is destroying the whites exactly in his worldview. So even though it may appear that he doesn't care about all these other groups it's really because once the whites go down you're all next. Yeah they're the bulwark right exactly the same way that he says like the West is the thing that's standing behind hell on

earth standing in front of hell on earth. It's the exact same sort of thing. It's like all right look when bad things happen to Hispanic people when they happen to native people when they happen to black people sure it's bad but I don't really care because they're on the other side of that bull or whatever it's just like that's not going to take down the levy right but the white people are the levy he's not really should all be behind

the white people and make sure that they get there the best treatment and he's not realizing that like the water is it's you're you're a you're Swiss cheese your wall is Swiss cheese everybody's drowning already right and I don't know if I nailed that metaphor but the same the same type of mental gymnastics are required to just be a Republican period now like just like no like if you if you so many people went to that Trump rally in Minnesota how dare you 150 years ago

Republicans were so bad so many so many reporters went there and they asked people like seriously what the fuck yeah and the people were like no we we if if this were happening we would totally be against it we just don't believe any of it's happening I watched a bit of it it was a very troubling and like yeah no it's Nazis it really it really struck me that I I've watched a number of these rallies and at a point there were a few not white people and I don't I don't want

to judge whatever their motivations for being there were everyone gets to make their own choices in life sure there were there were it wasn't all whites right let's say right and then a little bit later down the road it would be like just that one guy with the blacks for Trump signed who may or may not be involved in a cult yeah yeah there's that guy and then like he kept showing up and that was like all right we got we got that guy there this was I was looking I couldn't see

anybody who wasn't white and I don't know cuz you know on the other hand it was Duluth right I don't even know if there are anybody who are are any non whites in Duluth hey come on man Duluth so wonderful town I guess I don't know I've never been I don't know it's just it's just very unnerving to me cuz then they zoomed out and I was like nope still nobody yeah and then everybody's like is Kevin McHale in that picture do you see that he is in that picture I didn't know if it was him or

not but I saw people clowning on Twitter but then that was like a super high resolution picture of Kevin McHale well see I don't know what he looks like these days so I have no idea not great but like I looked I looked around cuz you could blow it up higher higher resolution I was looking around still no fucking white people or still all white people I was like God I wanted to tweet I don't know if this is Kevin McHale but I know it's not Robert Parrish tell you that

right now so anyway yeah it's it's super weird I am I think that all of this could just be distilled down to a sense of like Alex is not really concerned about actions as much as he is context of actions and so like Chinese people rioting is great because in his brain it creates problems for the chai comms that he hates so much so it doesn't really matter that if it were Chinese people rioting here against a similar oppression let's say when the Chinese Exclusion Act was

going on or something like that I can't remember any type of American act like that but so like if that were happening here he would be very against it because it's creating problems for his for him right and for yeah and for his conception of America as a white ethno state right frankly right and so that's why the same action is problematic in a largely African American area if it were white people rioting he probably be totally fine with it especially if they were

like we're against the globalists right or something like or if we're against the Chinese yeah I imagine that might be okay especially if you found some way to work it into like internationalism or some bullshit you know what interests me I don't know at this point right at this point I have not let you I have not let you know Dune Dune for sure Highlander Dune for sure Highlander moderately I love Highlander not as important as dude so people have been suggesting that

you do a spin-off podcast might about Highlander with you because you keep bringing it up it's just it no the the erasure of the line that that is what fascinated me most about the way that they when when they do those stories where it's like you know that people are being torn from their parents in put into concentration camps how can you deal with this how can you support this guy and instead of saying that there's a line where they won't support Trump there's no line

no they just it just doesn't it just doesn't happen line was gone before though I know but it seems like even if you're a Republican you should have thought at least before now is there a line is there a line what will it take for me to stop supporting the Republican Party now see but that's a thought that the Democrats want you to have and that's why they would go there you go it does seem it does seem strange to me that that's a thought that nobody seems to have ever had like

what's the line what is the line for me to change my party have you like I don't I'm I have no allegiance to the Democrats no because they are fucking garbage and they're going to ruin this they're going to they're going to ruin this again but I have no choice but to vote for them because they're because though are the alternative is otherwise and at the same time what's my line to not vote for them like do you have a line

no right because I don't I don't have an allegiance so I don't have a line I have a I will go with the people that I think are best for the positions that are open or that the you know that so there is there I mean what do you want my line is really thin like or it's really early yeah that's true there's a lot of things that are disqualifying in terms of of leaders but I think of changing parties I'm not in a party right yeah I mean either that's true I guess our line

is not something are I'm sorry I'm sorry I mean I mean for the politically unaffiliated the line is ultimately like just leaving right like at what point can you not even support the America yeah yeah yeah that has to be the real line why it's coming like what's that what's that line I feel like it should have been way earlier oh yeah we should be going line should have been crossed a long time ago oh yeah now that I'm not

afraid of planes anymore yeah I'm getting out of here let's leave yeah I'm going to Easter Island finally time to go that might be anyway time to change this up get back on track yeah sorry so at this point in the show Alex decides that he wants to flex on Obama supporters and so he starts taking calls from Obama supporters all right I want you Obama people to come at me all right and then he just gets calls from people who don't really like Obama that much but he presents them as like these

are Obama heads aren't they stupid like no they're your callers they're your fans they're listening to your show people who like Obama aren't listening so Alex went on a trip yes and you know what that means he ran into a globalist wherever it was he was I'm not sure if this person is a globalist but it's very possible what do they have to say about his passport nothing this was on the plane okay then the jury still out this didn't happen I was talking to executive who

was interviewing the head of what is it a Chinese telecom and their big internet provider and he was basically saying this high powered guy actually famous guys on the plane with flying back well-known guys flying back with you know friends and George Bush all that stuff yesterday on American Airlines from Dallas and he was like yeah I know it's true at the top of the pyramid it's the same people were merging with China and they're using regulations to shut down business here to

transfer it there it's a bad thing and it's just like general public has no idea what's going on if your globalist fat cats you use regulations to shut down your competition and then move it to China and then when people say hey don't do that you go what do you want for the communist you traitor okay okay well spelled out I don't think that person exists first of all he's very well known though they will know somehow involved with George Bush famous we know that he's on American Airlines

so he's a very powerful man absolutely very powerful undoubtedly that means Alex is in first class right doesn't he realize that what he's saying right there is that I fly first class absolutely there's no way that the executive is flying in coach not a fucking chance in the world right also this didn't happen but I do think that he is admitting he's in first class that's exactly what he's admitting I think that part is clear but I don't know I just think that this is that stupid

libertarian garbage by trying to reframe what regulation is on businesses and it's like all these super rich people already have all their money so they try and enforce these these regulations to make sure no one else can get in their game yeah that's called trusts and monopolies which we have many that regulations are supposed to break up right right and in the past have because they became a problem they were really good at it too right right good thing we got rid of I don't

understand I sincerely don't understand the difference spiritually between that which would break up a monopoly and that which would regulate an industry you know like I don't understand where you like you can bring a spiritual difference in supporting one and not the other because Alex seems to be very against monopolies he hates the idea of monopoly capitalism and right right but at the same time he's like don't regulate business let business be well he doesn't want

the government to break up monopolies no he does he wants the people to break up no no no he wants government to get involved he absolutely does okay then how what do you mean well don't use the word regulate okay but he does he wants the government to break up Amazon he wants them to break up Google like he doesn't want us to do it he wants the government to step in okay but how without regulation can't use that word um

law relation nope too close um can't even use stipulation how about dance party now that's interesting if an Amazon how about how about okay the entire government has a huge car wash okay all right better idea okay we go back to your dance party idea okay yes this is a better idea we have musical chairs okay everybody pays in with pieces of Amazon's business right I don't know what that even means what even is a piece of Amazon's business well like you get the book part you get the

book part okay okay you get Amazon Prime over here right right right I realize that this isn't going to work because musical chairs is only going to lead to a monopoly one person wins shit oh okay there could be multiple rounds like okay this round is for prime this all right is for the shipping business okay this is for the warehouses all right all right something like that and then each round if you win you're out okay but Bezos has to donate all of it like it has to be like Bezos is

throwing the dance party and let's say I don't know it's 200 million to get in right or something like that right and you're guaranteed to walk away with something but you don't get to choose what it is you get what it's like a white elephant right well you know or like one of those games where you swap whoever grabs it they can swap it at you know because you get whatever musical chairs around you win okay but there's only enough rounds for as many people are there and once you win

around you can't play again the last round is going to be terrible because it's just going to be one person and Jeff Bezos Jeff Bezos and Jeff Bezos will obviously eat that person to gain his strength right he's just there as a dummy because it's not fun to play musical chairs by yourself right here's my plan to break up monopolies all without all my mind wasn't perfect you know what that's a very big position I'm a big enough man

that's a big decision to take yeah here's my plan okay all right firing squads interesting all right so I was hoping to avoid this sort of thing if you are Jeff Bezos right then we have like six people with guns nobody knows who has a live bullet and they all shoot them at you yeah I don't know I don't know man I guess regulation yeah that would also work yeah regulation would also be a great idea that probably work yeah so we have one more clip here and it's just to

reinforce Alex's terrible headspace that he's in about how he wants everyone to know that he's in very severe danger there we haven't covered a whole lot on this episode because there isn't a whole lot right just kind of yells about the NSA stuff but he doesn't really say anything in particular just talks about how he's been right all along and yeah he had I think he's talking about William Benny he's like I had a guy of Benny's beverage depot yep he's like

I had a guy on from the NSA a year ago and no one gave me any credit or whatever he's like no one talked about he's a little bitter about that and overall it's just a lot of zeros a lot of zeros throughout this has been one of the more vague episodes everything is very vague it's always a guy who did a thing where I was at a place where a thing happened there's no there's not a lot of holds on the rock that we're trying to climb up and it leads to it being difficult but the things

that are important are that he thinks that yelling at the guy at the BBC is dominating him and that's an uncomfortable way of describing it he has differing feelings on riots depending on the circumstances it's over there it's not over here and then he's just making up so much shit like he's making up what happened with the TSA agent who was very polite he's making up the cop crying to him in London he's making up he was a former cop right he's making up this fake globalist on

a plane he's just creating it like great Samuel L Jackson movie he probably had a really boring trip that was mostly pleasant outside of getting dunked on on UK television and he's trying to create a mythology out of it because he doesn't get away from the States very often and I can understand that I bet I think you had a great time but got some fish and chips but making a mistake about it his life is in danger. Oh okay, and by the way those guys were part of it in the drill

I believe they were gonna blame it on right wingers and he's talking about the Boston bombing of course and then they changed the story they said it's right wingers we've made the arrest will be made and but we then released the photos by the grace of God the photos that were already out we focused on them in the drill real quick we released the photos that were already out that sentence is troubling by the grace of God right well and they freaked out and now they might kill

me I'm gonna be really honest with you I'll tell you I'm really freaked out folks I know in my gut that they are sitting back and they had there have been discussions undoubtedly about Wacken you're sure I will guarantee you they got their finger on the trigger it's being debated and some other agency or group might just say I'm sick of that God do it well you know what you know what whatever happens happens because I'm in God's hands and I'm not gonna stops

yep you're not could be the NSA could be the FBI any any of these agencies could just be sick of me could be the TSA could be the APA the American Pool Playing Association at the Acolytes Protection Agency of Bradshaw and Farooq could be the MIB the man in black could be the CSC sir could be the CDC could be the TFC could be the TLC could be that's what happened to Lisa left eye could be TCM Turner classic absolutely they might take him out could be

MIA the rapper yeah exactly all right yeah any of these things are possible but five years later Alex Jones alive and well and no one really seems to care about killing him to our great chagrin I'm fine with him not dying but man it's just it's becoming laborious you know you know what I mean yeah it's it's I still live I love doing the show and I still love learning about these things because he's such a perfect conduit into learning about things that I would not have

any access to otherwise right but it is becoming a thing where it's like for years he's just like they're about to kill me yeah and you're like they're not and then you see him now and he's doing the same he's doing the same bits and it's really it's like seeing a comic like seeing Pablo Francisco I don't want to say anything about him particularly because I don't know the man but it is like seeing someone like I don't know you see somebody do a set and then you're like that was

amazing they are so good they're a great comic and then five years later you see them do basically the same set with the same crowd work the same asides to the audience same built in shit and you're like oh it's all you got and that's what Alex is like to some extent like going back in time there is a feeling of like is all you got that's too bad that sucks man you need to you need a new act so that brings us to the end of this episode and he does like to thank Ian for suggesting us

go back I like to also apologize a little bit that there wasn't as much meat there wasn't a ton of meat but the reason that I still stand by it and I think that this was exactly the right episode to do was because it was the reason we got sent back and we found Alex's response to him being on the the BBC so mission accomplished indeed big banner on a ship absolutely thank you again Ian and thank you to everybody who everybody everybody because all of everybody all the people all the

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well I am gonna go I'm just gonna say that there's one small tiny pathetic elf shaped ear having a balding motherfucking is this the character from the cunt of a man who needs to go fucking die Jeff sessions go fuck yourself Andy and Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding so Alex I'm a person color my huge fan I love your work I love you