Knowledge Fight - #181: August 16, 2016

Episode Date: July 16, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the August 16, 2016 episode of the Alex Jones Show. They decided to talk about this episode because "king of living The Best Life" Roger Stone was clearly indicted for communicating with Russians the day before. What happened on InfoWars that day? Something normal? Nope.

Andy and Chanz will share on the air. Thanks for holding Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are. Dan, if we had pretty much exhausted this bit beyond reasoning. I think we already did this version of the bit last episode. Oh, did we? Well, you know way too much about Alex Jones. True. And currently I also know way too much about Alex Jones However, we have varying degrees of where our line is. You know a little bit less and I know a little bit more today. Yes. I Have found some very juicy business for us to go over today But before we get into today's episode that really does water down the show is like I know a little bit more about Alex Jones

And he knows a little bit less. Yeah, and therein is the rub like That's not really a we've both made up our minds Who cares? Um, so we do a show about a piece of shit. All right, something that's not a piece of shit is our new donor God, that's some great transitions. It that wasn't my favorite, but something that is my favorite is our new door Two layers great great. I'd like to give a shout out and thank you so much to Christopher You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Christopher What is Robin in theaters in August? I believe he's our new sponsor. Very excited about that That movie is our new sponsor and as I told you the other night when we were hanging out

I played Winnie the Pooh in a fire prevention skit when I was in 7th grade. That's true So me and Christopher Robin go way back. Yeah, although I Wasn't allowed to play Christopher Robin or the more appropriate character Eor because I was a bummed out kid Yeah, I'd play Winnie the Pooh. I said oh bother with the best of them. Anyway Let's get into the pantheon of obo bothers me. Yeah, we did a poo. That's it All right, so today Jordan we have a very interesting episode to go over and I'd like to start things off with an out-of-context drop Excellent Alex Jones in the video. I finger Fingered Soros

So that's fun that is fun in the video I had finger Soros that's and that's edited that's edited Dan Oh, I'm telling you that's not the context Man, you're you're the project Veritas of Alex Jones finger fucking people only for the first few minutes of the show and then we get real serious business Right, so today Jordan what I wanted to do over the weekend and right towards the end of last week We saw our old buddy our good friend Living his best life Roger Stone get named without being named in an indictment of 12 Russians who hacked DNC pretty George Soros

behind the entities the DNC leaks and Goose for 2.0 And Roger Stone was forced to go and embarrass himself on national television is pretty great having Chris Cuomo be like What are you talking about? Earlier today you said I wasn't you and it's clearly you my favorite part You released the the the private messages that are completely a one-to-one match with what's in this indictment Well, yes, now that it now that it's later in the day. I am saying You were saying that Roger was thrown I think he was a little bit

But I've realized that one of the things that threw him the most is that Chris Cuomo used one of him and Alex's big catchphrases Before Roger could to take the power out of it. Okay when Chris Cuomo said I know I know they can indict a ham sandwich But oh there you go. That's one of their big catchphrases nice now Roger can't use it He took that off the table right and I think Roger was like you motherfucker you son of a bitch That's all we have to do. We just have to cook out their sings You just have to use it before they do in an interview and apparently every time every every interview We do the first thing we should say is like and I know you're gonna try and cook me out on this one And then they're gonna be like, I don't know what to do fuck and then before you know it

He's like well actually they can also indict a cheese sandwich You're the slipperiest and as I explained to you what I got to witness in that interview was the evidence that Roger stone Isn't really as good as we think he is like we have a an Elevated version of his trickiness because he's always against Alex Jones, right? He's up in that world or back when he could just yell at people on CNN and stuff like that back when he could call people like You're pretty racially charged things like I think he called Don Lemon a mediocre Negro or something No, that was someone else. Yeah. Yeah, he had It was at least. Oh, no. No, we all know he said some racist shit. Nobody can remember this affirmative action hires

Then he could be slippery in a way that he's baiting you and make it trying to make you angry But now he can't really play that game It doesn't really because he'll get kicked off and he won't be invited back on it. It doesn't really work as well So it's like it's like a it's like Duke playing Kentucky like a whatever whatever it is like a Winamax state or something like that where it's like, all right on Info wars Roger stone is dunking on people, right? No competition whatsoever. Yeah, well, it's it's like a yeah It's like a rock and jock b-ball exactly and then he goes on CNN and he's like, oh shit. This is this is level

I'm I'm out of practice on this. I've been on info wars too long I've been playing with children exactly co-hosting a show with Owen shroy Yeah, I don't know how to can't handle a real question. Yeah, this is I could I could lie in the morning in the evening and nobody would question me on info wars I could lie from one sentence to the next and contradict myself and everybody'd be like, yeah I don't know. That's the smarter thing to do is contradict yourself. I love it And I like I like realizing that maybe his muscles of atrophied more than we realize. Yeah, but so I saw all that stuff And I thought well, this is interesting because

When we started this show was the beginning of 2017 and so we had some current stuff in 2017 And then we largely focused on going back to 2015 to the beginning of Trump's candidacy to track Alex's path and one of the things that we didn't do all that much of a look at is looking at 2016 And that's because it became Fairly pointless once we realized the transition for Alex getting on Trump's wavelength. Yeah Yeah, and that so it just seemed like it wasn't all that important But I realized that if you look at that indictment there dates in there and I thought oh, man I thought maybe it would be interesting to go to the exact day day the day after Roger

Definitely is in contact with Russian hackers. Okay, and see what happened on info wars. See if there's anything interesting That's a smart move now. I'll tell you this Something that is very interesting to me is that there is a YouTube channel that I largely get most of my episodes from It's a guy named Ron Gibson who has a channel on YouTube to be hilarious if it was Ron Goose for that'd be funny So this channel is clearly in league with Alex Jones in terms of like it has permission to yeah Yeah, post these things he posts by the hour update So it's like there's a chunk of Alex's first hour second hour third hour as separate videos Yeah, and then a commercial-free entire show afterwards. Yeah, so like he's

Every day. I don't think it's one guy. I don't I As you're saying this I don't understand how I'd never thought to ask like if he is just Reposting Alex Jones videos. Why aren't they sending DMCA complaints? He's The obvious point is he works. Yeah, it works. It's an infowars operation to begin with because it also reposts All of the special reports Alex does it reposts and posts as one of the only places you can find them like the war room Yeah, and David Knight's show and now we haven't even talked about this But Mike Adams has a Sunday show now. What yeah, who cares it's okay fair enough So I was like, okay, that's where I get most of my episodes from you go into YouTube search for August 16th

2016 Nothing it's one of the only episodes that Ron Gibson does not have on his Page you can find August 15th. You can find August 17th. It's interesting that this episode is not that one specific episode I'll admit that there is a benign explanation that is entirely possible so many but I maybe was sick Maybe you know, I don't know we've had an episode go missing that happens from time to time happens possibly You know, there's a benign explanation that I would accept although it looks very sketchy Now let's is that because August 15th Roger Stone was in contact with Goose for 2.0 All right, but he was probably not in contact by the time Alex was on air

On the 15th, but on the 16th all of that shit is wide open and today. We're going over August 16th 2016 Because I found another version of it not on that channel that's clearly affiliated with Alex Jones Yes, someone else had posted it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a now We will watch that and see if we can find any context clues as to suspicions going around your Your like knowing grin is delightful and can actually be heard through your voice Yeah, probably everyone is like Dan has got something. Hey guys spoiler alert. There's something big coming up But first let's deal with some small stuff, okay, this is how Alex kicks things off As we know it's something he's sort of how he makes his bread and butter. It's mostly a white fears

So he's scared that the UN is gonna do some bad stuff to whites Oh, the video that we shot on Saturday is titled shocker You and it meds migrant crisis plan to overthrow the West and in their own words This isn't accurate. They say basically get rid of white people now. They're selling this to the 90 plus percent of the planet that isn't white and most of which happen to be third world that This is a reverse colonialism conquering the West The third world populations are being used as cannon fodder remember the global government tree that was leaked in

2008 the Copenhagen text and what did it say? Now we were going to ride at double It was right below doubling one point below doubling the taxes on the third world that the West would pay So that's I mean, I don't understand what that means It doesn't mean anything because he's he doesn't remember the details of this because it's years later Who is paying taxes on the third world? That's not that's not at all He's just he's using numbers where they don't belong Okay, so this is about this thing called the Danish text not the Copenhagen text

But in fairness to Alex it was released during the Copenhagen climate summit in 2009 not 2008 The big issue that people had with the text petty fair The text this it wasn't just like a text message like you up. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right, dad It was it did seem to illustrate Basically a public or sorry private arrangement that was being worked out in many ways to subvert the Kyoto protocols There was between the United States the United Kingdom and Denmark at least right probably other actors involved But the issue that people had with it was one it made a distinction between power levels of countries Which was stigmatizing to countries that were deemed vulnerable countries because some of them were over 9,000

What is that what all right? People are gonna get that and the fact that you don't is gonna make them laugh I was really trying to focus on the the facts. You said you said power levels. So it's gonna happen power level 9,000 It's over now. It's a it's a so power man 5000. No, so there's this anime. Oh, this is why Dragon Ball Z now Goku he is he's a Saiyan he's not from this go talk to Hotep Jesus All kinds of stuff going on. All right To be fair the listeners do love your Dragon Ball Z talk. So maybe you should keep going And then Vegeta comes he's an original Saiyan that there's only two left from the planet and they work for Frieza

It's a whole mess. All right, so I'm telling you right now, right? So the second problem was that it's okay. Okay attack It took a lot of the negotiating power away from the UN proper and allowed other entities to have a greater stake in the Implementation concerns of climate change rules and stuff like that And then we get back to the numbers that Alex is talking about is it's not taxes It made an imbalance between rich and poor countries in terms of emission standards that they would have to reach by 2050 for rich countries they could admit 2.67 tons per capita as opposed to poor countries with 1.44 tons So that is about double or so. Yeah, you know, that's probably what he's talking about. Yeah

These numbers. Yeah, the emissions that would be allowed between these countries and this caused a quite a fervor During this climate change conference and led to some some rank disagreements and rightfully so I think I mean I don't think it's right that these so if I understand it Let me try and rephrase this in a way that makes sense if I understand correctly The rich countries are allowed far more leeway with their Emissions than the poor countries and despite the fact that the poor countries Probably rely further upon those emissions to not be poor Right in order to in order to break out of poverty, right?

And I think the guiding principle of that is something we talk about sometimes is just a little bit perhaps idealistic That is building up third world countries in a better way than we did exactly Yeah, and you'd hope that just by virtue of newer technologies we have they would have a lower emission rate Whether or not there was a cap there or at the same time you could view it as like well rich people get to drive in a car Four times a week and poor people get to drive in a car twice You could yeah, and no matter what I think a shadowy background deals and stuff like that I do think that Alex is correct in referencing this as like something that's you know being done clandestinely yeah, but he's still lying about it. Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like man. Nobody wins

Yeah, it's kind of a push But who cares right so now we get into Alex's rambling about how he doesn't like things that are tax exempt Which fair enough, but then he says something really I mean this is a Christian nation though It's true, but there's something he says at the end of this clip that it just really made me wow Just like you see a cop car and it says tax exempt The cop themselves isn't bad person But that idea that the state is tax exempt and can give state powers to private corporations making themselves exempt They then organize higher taxes on everybody else

Bring in third-world populations to be their enforcers and it's game over by the way That's actually in the documents as well. How they're going to use the illegals as the new constabulary That means the enforcers, but first they have to remove the old constabulary. I'm Alex Jones This is the program to defeat globalism All right Is a really bad plan. Oh dude We're gonna get to an even worse plan here in a little bit that he has in his mind But yeah, like I don't know I all I hear there is like wow

And then the this fear of illegals coming in as some sort of like police force get constabulary area Yeah, we're area. Yeah, you know how the government even under Obama deported What almost like a million people. Yeah, they were really planning like in a short order to instead of deport people Give them badges right and then have them fight the regular cops And you know, of course, they would no longer call themselves cops. They would call themselves constables Anything I know about illegal aliens. It's that they really adhere to British customs. There's no doubt. Yeah And I mean the the other thing that you have to take away from this is like when he says the old constabulary Yeah, he's not talking about the cops. He's talking about white people. Yeah, it's all just replacement fear

He's talking about the KKK cops, right? KK cops keystone Cops. Yeah So whatever. I don't care. That's just more like this is the headspace he's in I still think this is more interesting than present day quite frankly Already we're only a couple clips in and I'm already like I I'm more interested. Well, he said something interesting about that Climate change agreement. Well, like that's an interesting thing that I didn't know that you confirmed is true So that's fascinating true true and a lie. It's like two truths and a lie game

Yeah, that's sort of the best case scenario for Alex. Yeah, we're playing a party game We haven't played two truths and a lie on this show in a long time when we talk about the present It's just it's just lies. Well, here comes another lie. Okay, ladies and gentlemen We have to have a little bit of fun with the decline of Civilization We have to have some gallows humor, but this is going to be an incredible transmission today particularly We had a major Stanford Research Institute study confirming

Democratic election fraud on a massive scale to steal the election from Bernie Sanders now, I know you already know that I know we chronicled that you're on air and the Republicans tried the same thing with Donald Trump but because he fought back They failed and that is a lesson to us on every front about fighting back But that is the big news today. That's the big news. I Actually disagree. There's much bigger news, but this is his big news So his big news is there's this Stanford study Stanford Research Institute study

Hmm What do you what's that noise? That's an unfamiliar noise on our Stanford Research Institute. I was just saying what he said very specifically. That's what he said. Okay, but that's not where this came from. Yeah, spoiler alert. Yeah, this wasn't a Stanford study and it was not even a study It was an You don't even get both right? No, you don't even get one right It was an unpeer reviewed paper claiming to show election interfere and citing exit polls

It asserted that Hillary Clinton did better in states where there was no paper trail to Votes that you could follow back up on but even just a cursory glimpse over their data shows that they did an incomplete job with the data They counted states where there were multiple ways of voting like paper votes Yeah, machines with a paper trail or machines without a paper trail Like if you had a state where there were multiple options and one of them was the machines with no paper trail They just counted the entire state as one with no paper trail. Okay. I got you They completely just had incomplete. This would never stand up if there's a 66% paper trail But not a hundred percent paper they counted counting like a 30% no paper trail that counts as a no paper

Yeah, yeah, so the issue that you come to is like if this ever were put in front of a review board or any other researcher They'd be like this data is corrupt. It's not it doesn't it's not indicative of of Reality this is some prudent level David data right here. You guys are so corrupt. Yeah, it's it's nonsense And further it was not put out by the Stanford Research Institute It was written by two college students one named Axel Geysel of Tillsburg University in sounds like somebody I want to trust and Rudolfo Cortez Barragan of Stanford University and then it was disseminated on a website called the burn report and published and pushed on social media Even the authors admit in the paper. They had no time to peer review any of their findings. Yeah

So what this is is something it's classic info wars data Yeah, and you know what if you want to have a conversation about Bernie getting screwed go for it But why let's let it go right? But I mean if there there's a conversation to be had possibly about the unfairness of the Democratic National Convention Oh, do you mean like a Clinton endorsing Cuomo for governor over? There are there are plenty there are a hundred issues There are a lot of examples, but this isn't one of them

No, like that and that is what always strikes me and brings home like how little Alex really cares about the things he's talking about You could bring in something real but instead you go for the much flashier the fast food version That isn't actually beef or whatever. You know the reason McDonald's is over 99 billion served. Well, absolutely. And why Alex has millions of listeners and we have anyways So have you ever trusted anybody named Rudolfo? I don't think I could do it I'm not sure I've ever met anyone named an untrustworthy name to me. I know that there's one. It's too white It's too white. The name Rudolfo is too white. It makes me think of like a Reindeer from the North Pole going on vacation to like Germany can Kuhn and like trying to fit in he's got a moustache fake

Mustache oh, oh, so he's so he's adding some Latin flair to it is what you're thinking. He's trying to lay low during the summer months Down there having some surveys I am Rudolfo My nose glows green the Rojo knows reindeer So how do you say red? Prop I just know French. Yeah, Rouge Anyway, we're getting some more Rudolf a we get some more dumb bullshit here Alex talking about these leaks of

Soros's Emails and memos and stuff like that. Sure. We get into a lot of that He's very into that on this episode because it had only happened a couple days earlier a lot of the days Especially the Soros emails and memos were published mere days before this You know before you continue and again apologies for interrupting and screwing up the throat of the clip But there is something I I think is interesting about his his non-point that he makes We're in because there's a way in he says that The DNC was trying to steal the election from Bernie right right and the and then he says that the RNC

Was trying to steal it from Trump Yeah, but one of them one and one of them lost Which is really interesting to me in a reflection of how politics actually works like the Republican moderate whatever it is have Zero control anymore like it's all lunatics on the right wing side right whereas the Democrats have Republicans in control like Republicans from the 90s in control of actual progressives, right? So of course they have a larger block of like let's hey guys We can't be having these crazy ideas out there of like people's lives getting better stay the course

Status quo all the time. Mm-hmm So it's it's fascinating to me that the Democratic Party is set up in such a way as they will always defeat the crazies and The Republican Party is set up in such a ways as they will never defeat the crazies Yep, that's an interesting thing that he pointed out by accident that he doesn't even really understand Yep Sorry, I found that to be an interesting thing I'm processing. I'm I apologize. No, I'm processing. It's more. It's more indicative of like him explaining why he has a career Yeah

He is kind of indicative of that and other I mean because anybody else wouldn't put up with this kind of nonsense, right? and now they're developing a national police force for each of those countries from Sweden to Germany to France and they admit that they're linking up with Muslim leaders Online to arrest anyone criticizing Islam in any way the London mayor has also announced an initiative to arrest you and your family The new George Soros This is the battle plan. So yeah, we have a hundred percent arrest rate of you and your family That's and I'm scared of what the London mayor is trying to do Chicago

City con wants On sense the con is by all accounts a Delightful man who has progressive no intention of arresting neither you nor your family nor people even broadly related to you No, but this is sort of a foreshadowing of Alex becoming good friends with Tommy Robinson, you know That's where the idea of hate speech being curtailed in in England and the UK is somehow Like if you question Islam, you're going to prison. Yeah sort of thing. Yeah, well, I mean like we have to we have to

Bucking pump the brakes. This is something Alex never does on his show because he lives in this dumb Idealistic bubble that like a child would that imagines that every place is the same Yet. He is a nationalist. You know that idea. Yeah, because he he seems to think that our Constitution applies to every country and so like when there's hate speech laws in the UK that we don't have here first amendment He's furious about first amendment. Exactly first amendment. Why won't they let one of them have his first amendment? Why don't the British even understand the first amendment? Yeah, exactly There's this stupid stupid thing that's like you want universal global laws Yeah, like that yet at the same time you're mad at the idea. It's it's very crazy to me because I don't I don't know

enough like I haven't done copious amounts of research into free speech laws in the UK But from everything I understand their free speech laws are not super Confining they aren't super repressive, but they do have a lot more allowances for Stifling hate speech than we do they've also But that's that's once that's something that's interesting to me, especially recently because they have just recently Curtailed free speech laws in a way that has not been done for a long time to the point where activists are kind of worried about that Sure, so so that is it that is such a point counterpoint to that

You know, do we have to lacks free speech laws versus are we is any free? Is any free speech law going to eventually lead to this is the suppression of speech that should be I don't know or shouldn't be suppressed. I don't know, you know It's just fascinating now as we see the global alliance of nationalists as though like hey Hey, hey, hey, I hate you join up with me Let's let's get together and get rid of all these people who aren't nationalists so we can become nationalists together Let's have a global alliance of nationalists who take out the globalists who are definitely not Jews absolutely That's definitely let's definitely rely on archaic Jewish stereotypes and anti-semitic tropes from history in order to demonize this group

That we don't like while becoming a global entity Which is what we seem to be against in this group that we're demonizing with anti-semitic tropes from history right cool Man right on top of it cool everything makes sense I do think that your your concern is much more interesting and I don't know I don't have an answer for that man I have no idea. I don't know. I don't think I don't believe Because it's something that comes up and stand up a lot this idea that like you Limit any speech and it limits all speech right and I don't really necessarily believe in that Like because we have similar versions of that like I know it's a really hacky sort of thing to say

But like you can get in trouble for yelling fire in a crowded building. Yeah, like you can get in trouble for Threatening someone with violence like they're already limits on free speech. You can't extort people like that sort of shit That's just speech man. That is just speech But you're given the option to be extorted or to not be extorted. You can't make threats You can't do do that sort of thing So like the idea that any limit on speech is a limit to all speech I think is contradicted by the fact that we do have just basic limitations on right on what is just an only and I the only argument against it is

The slippery slope argument right which either comes true or doesn't and it's not an actual argument that you can really make as Something, you know, like and more importantly the slippery slope is a logical foul Exactly. Yeah, that's it. That's what I'm saying if you make an argument based on like what what will become of this Then all you're doing what could become of this. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's all fucking stupid It's all stupid So remember earlier when I told you that Alex had a worse plan than the dumb plan you came up with Yes, listen to this shit. It's crazy. Wait, I came up with that plan. No, no, no, you were who cares Alex has a bad plan

This is really happening First of all, I just want to pause right there just to say any time I hear Alex say that it means to me This ain't happening. This is it was really happening. You wouldn't need to say it was really happening Right, right in the same way as a kid. I would read Dave Berry. I'm not making this up But you're making yeah, you're obviously making this up Stop selling but let's just go over the stack of news today on this subject That's on sex on sex mega banks above the law tax example diplomatic community Going in with education programs to create absolute total

homicidal hatred of anyone with white skin and Teaching them to hate capitalism and teaching them that you must go to the United States or Europe or Australia And you must capture it politically as leftist politically and that you must then take over government and create a utopia Now this is taught in Mexico. This is taught in Nigeria. This is taught in Sudan This is taught in South Africa. This is taught all over places like Venezuela Nicaragua El Salvador, they're all running programs as of this year for all of those countries It's very reasonable to hate white people. Does he not understand why those countries every country? He's named also has like a historical event where you're like, no, you guys should hate white people forever

You put that aside for a second. Okay, you missed the last thing he said there and this club isn't done But the last thing he said there is these programs have been in place as of last year Which to me is like, okay So the way they're indoctrinating kids in school as of last year, which means they're in fourth grade as of last year fifth grade now Hmm, they get a year or two of indoctrination indoctrination. That's all you need So we get 10 year olds who now hate anyone if a homicidal hate of people with white skin All right, finish your thought give them give them 30 more years and they're gonna fit

They're gonna finish the job. Let's finish it. Let's let's Alex finish the job on his stupid thought Officially organized with the UN to bring in people from all over the world That land on airplanes and come in on ships, they're not allowed to stay there and then they are bust All the way to the United States where the board patrol waits for them and loads them on buses to ship them in a Democratic Party Facilities who then they give them ID cards set them up on full welfare Real quick he is going to town with all white fears The real reason that he's saying that and he made a very specific point of saying like they're getting more than a social Security recipient because he fucking knows that most of his audience is old and white. Yeah

They're very scared of this idea that I only get $1,300 a month. I'm on a fixed income. What do you mean? They get two thousand meanwhile They're very clear laws about being able to take any welfare Programs if you are an immigrant who comes legally or illegally now you come illegally. There's no way you can't they've been in Since last year and as we all know Democrats had complete control of the Senate though the house and the White House at the time right in 2015 all of it. It definitely wasn't a an entirely Republican Congress That'd be crazy, right? But you know again this just bears mentioning Alex. It doesn't like those Republicans now

Although he did almost jizz on himself talking about how great it would be if Ted Cruz ran for president Mere years earlier. Yeah, so I bet he votes for Beto. So Alex. Yeah, I bet he does. It's better. It's better for him. It's way better for him. Yeah, yeah that would be interesting but We can't speculate about someone's secret voting habits, but He's about Ted Cruz votes for me. I want to get out. He is way better for this country than me or just I want to get out But I can't quit exactly. Yeah, yeah And then large portions of that money is skimmed and given back to the organized crime combine

So what hold on? The NFL every year runs an organized crime rookie combine. They have to take the the test in order to no No, no, no, no, no, okay So we have kids being indoctrinated in schools as of a year ago Yeah, and now somehow they're being sent in in league with the UN in league in order to come here and Then they are being sent to Democratic centers where they get tons of welfare But some of it gets skimmed off the top and sent back to the Democrats It's already really expensive. Is that their goal to begin with to fly so many people from the world and then bust them

Which seems like a lower in a way Yeah, if you're getting taken across the border and then bust to like Nebraska take a train should get you should get another flight Connecting flights already they've already paid for the international flight what what Southwest isn't flying for like a hundred bucks It's ludicrous. It's ludicrous because here's why because they're like, okay, just the timeline of it makes The timeline is a good place to start it makes absolutely no sense They're busting a lot of 11 year olds in to vote. I just miss it out of hand like that part of it I just say absolutely not. I reject your premise. Good day, sir That sort of thing but then when you talk about like this idea that it's somehow a fraud for two reasons

One is to get people to vote Democrat Yeah, and the other one is to skim money off the top. Yeah skimming money off the top There's better scams. This seems like there'd be way too many cooks in the kitchen Someone would talk like it would be so ineffective. This scam is no good Secondarily, yeah, you want people to vote Democrat Alex is already claiming that they're just voting in dead people's names and stuff like that So you don't need this way Democrats are really doing that then they're just creating votes out of the ether They don't need this elaborate stupid plan It makes no sense

None of this even with the motivations that he is pretending these e-villains have yeah It makes no sense. All it is is to scare old white people what they found out what they found out This is the grave diggers of political radio It costs ten grand to get a dead person to vote it costs eight grand to fly in an illegal immigrant This is just pure mathematics. That's just because you get to skim that two thousand exactly. That's what I'm saying They think dead people are voting, but it's actually a legal immigrant stand The problem that Alex really never never wrestles with is like the second and third stages of the plans that he's Enumerating because the other thing apparently neither do the globalists what the other problem is that like if this scam exists

It's got to exist counter to in with all of the other like in 2016. He's still like fairly pizza. Yeah You have that part in there, too You've also you have to have all of his elaborate scams Being like all true at the same time. Well, they have millions of people work at the globalists are have a global network There are millions millions of people millions of people working for them for a lot of their scams You don't need that many people. You need like 30 or 40 people max Everybody's got to have a job. So they got a lot of scams going in that they got a lot of plates spinning fingers and a lot of pie Look when you have that many people you can come up with these harebrained schemes perhaps and you know what?

You know what they look hey Sometimes companies fuck up, you know, sometimes companies do something like yeah, we we sort of fuck the dog on this right That was bad money that was bad money leading money, you know, like whatever don't worry We've got diplomatic immunity because apparently that is something that the megabanks can have I love the idea though that like this International cabal that's existed for hundreds of years if not thousands that comes down from like the black nobility and Venice and stuff like that Yep, like the idea that they also come up with like Shit, you know like the International House of Pancakes now having to be like hey We were fucking with you with that burger thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're just you guys should have figured out the hole

We're fucking with you with a burger thing. You come on. You should have done better from the jump Yeah, like you should have instead of now being like ha ha we tricked you like no one was tricked We all thought this was a stupid publicity. Yeah. Yeah Like it's that same level of like business activity that he's Fixing into the minds of the globals. I'm like they've been around for thousands of years and secretly run everything They don't make mistakes like I hop Everybody makes mistakes down fair enough the globalists have run so many plans over the thousands of years They got to come up with new shit. Otherwise they get bored. Yeah, that might be they can't just keep running the same plan over and over

I gotta keep it fresh. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, I sometimes you open up that marriage to crazier schemes and I might even be the case with I hop I hate to keep coming back to them, but maybe they were just bored like we've been in a holding pattern Let's embarrass ourselves for real. Yeah more pancakes guys. We got to do something crazy We get it you have waffles. Yeah. Yeah, also great mozzarella sticks a little too big We can't call ourselves the international house of crepes. Nobody's gonna buy that shit We hate French people in America. I used to live near an I hop and me and crepe eating surrender monkeys is what we call They have plenty of crepes

My dear friend Nate burrows and I used to go to I hop for lunch every now and again Yeah, right over by my old apartment not far and we would just be hung over as shit Yeah, it was always just the only reason you go to I hop always about those way too big mozzarella sticks Yeah, all it was about these giant logs of mozzarella. Anyway, enough about this bullshit I hum this next I hums So in this This next clip Jordan. Yes. Um, yeah, have a situation where Alex This is a this is a little longer clip and I actually think it's a Mike down clip because what we see is Alex Jones being a

flagrant racist and Misrepresenting Tim Kaine The some comments that he had made Alex makes the mistake of playing Tim Kaine's comments and it becomes very clear what Tim Kaine means And Alex just he looks like a ding dong on his own show. Oh, it's so embarrassing and so disgusting I love it. I love it. It's so great. All right, Mike down, but at the same time I do I don't like how he never has to live with it. You know what I mean? Oh, of course not this and this clip I'm about to play for you any right thinking person who listened to this would be like, oh, this is a this is a

Racist, yeah, this is yeah, this is a guy who's absolutely trying to turn an innocuous statement And maybe a very nice unifying statement into something that is evil and anti white some sort of white genocide Sort of thing and it's absolutely not any inclusive message is Inherently anti-white. Absolutely. Yeah diversity is code for anti white That's what white supremacists say. Yeah, and here is what Alex Jones who's also a white supremacist says We're gonna skip the network break. It's too important. I mean, I'm serious This is just the end of the country the end of the world We're talking about here and the board petroleum comes out and says we've been ordered to complete the smuggling process

That's how mega massive of all this is So let's continue Hillary's VP we have the video of this coming up Hillary's VP whites must become a minority to a tone for racism Just real quick take a second to take that in as the headline that he's reporting Whites must become a minority in order to make up for racism. That makes sense Again in this is the ultimate racism To experience what other people have gone through because only whites have oppressed anybody in history total life

We must make whites a minority so they can be persecuted is what he's saying And this is a white guy who's gonna lead this and organize all the different racial groups Who they're gonna put your kids in prison and teach them in the prison how according different racial groups how to kill each other He's gonna manage you but he's selling it to you the party of the KKK It's particularly funny considering racial incarceration rates For Alex to be making this sort of stupid argument. Let's let's put white people in prison. Hey as your new time to shine This is incredible Let's just play the clip of the man that would be the vice president probably the president when Hillary

The that brain tumor goes ahead and eats the rest of that melon. Here it is For instance the most segregated hour of the week is 11 o'clock Sunday morning And that was a challenge to me and so I've made my spiritual home in a neighborhood where we're not segregated In fact, we were when we started there one of a few white families in that church It's now a very well-integrated church, but it was important to especially I think the burden is on those of us who are in a majority, you know caucasians here You we got to put ourselves in situations where we're in the more minority Okay, so there are the

The world is officially 90% you're a nationalist anglobe and then if you look at the numbers There's about three percent of that are people that are identifying as anglo that you could argue aren't what three Seven percent of the planet is anglobe. Okay, but you would think what's the end of the world Wait, why don't you even exist? So I apologize for Europe and I apologize for the printing press and I apologize for the science and the medicine and everything else And I just am here to say this guy's absolutely right. No, this is a sick evil race pimp great great great great Wait wait wait, that's amazing wait. That's amazing. Wait wait three percent three percent

Identify as anglo, but aren't so we've got not only is Rachel dola's all a Not a non outlier. She's she's just even crazier for doing it the wrong way because what she should be doing is identifying as white accidentally or incorrectly that Three percent what what is three percent? Who what's the three percent? It's Jews, right? He's talking about Jews. I I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I can't imagine. It's not yeah Okay, I feel I feel like my cuz he's not talking about black people just saying they're white my spidey sense tells me Well, I don't know cuz I what's this? No, that's that's trends and growth. I'm trying to find demographic information

I should have looked that up earlier, but It's just it's just it man. It feels like that's what he's saying It's just 500 million Chinese people saying that they're white. That's all he's talking about He's just talking about the very well publicized 500 million Chinese people who say that they're white I mean the the like I Want to say I mean Even without us being able to say exactly what he's talking about the idea of like now You're not white is the whitest thing ever. Yeah

The idea that he has like an Exclusivity which is what we talk about all the time is the the notion of whiteness is is based on exclusion not on inclusion I don't know, you know, I don't I Don't I man, I don't know. I wish I had those numbers. I think that's what I think that's what I really want to know What is the who he's talking about? Wait, like who does it like swore the Italians the Greeks like what is he talking about? I don't know any white person with a tan. You know what the issue is It's like no matter what the answer is. It's bad. Yeah

No matter what it's like Also, if he's talking about the Irish, you know what go fuck yourself Alex Sure, we've been the whitest for a long time. There's no son where we come from We were grown in whiteness It's disgusting that that's sort of his take on like how I'm I gonna respond after this clip that I maybe should have listened to Before I played because what Tim Kane is saying is an actual a really good message Yeah, which is to say that he's telling a personal anecdote about the idea that he You know church is one of the more segregated places in the world

You have denominations and churches that are primarily black primer primarily white And there's the twain doesn't usually meet and his idea of Going into places that are not where you are the minority is something that is very helpful for everyone Yeah, the idea the idea that that Here's what I want to say I was rambling around a little bit, but the If you hear what Tim Kane said and you are against it what you are against is integration Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the I never want to be around and too many black people or I only wanted on my terms

I only wanted if they come to me. Yeah and come to my white Barbecue doesn't that sound right the idea that him came Tim Kane is espousing in that clip is that like it Behoofs you to put yourself in situations where you get to experience other people's cultures because that is a respectful and Empowering and enlightening thing to do and you know what else you learn by it. What else he's also really talking about is So many white people so many white people have never had the experience that black people have just about every day Where they're going into a situation where it's majority white people creates empathy Yeah, exactly for on that level and on the level of learning about how cultures actually work Absolutely, you learn about something instead of having a caricature of it from dumb right-wing news sites

Well, and it is in in my world and and you know Clearly how many times have you seen like a young white comic go into a primarily black room and and be like I don't know how to act right now like their their jokes get thrown off that way that when I was seen much more examples Like as I generally knew decent comics. Yeah, well many more times I saw them go in and it be no big deal Yeah, I like the it not because people pandered or anything But because when you go into situations where you are the minority you realize that it's not as big a deal as you think It's not a big deal. You create unless you make it a big thing go exactly bingo

You create this image in your head that like everyone there is gonna think I'm the other yeah, or any of that stuff Generally people aren't doing that. That's you. No, it's you thinking that yeah I cherish so much that the ability that I had growing up to be in so many different communities because like I said I talked about this before my dad was a religious studies professor and so he had friends that were like in in mosques from all different faiths and walks of life and we would spend time at the synagogue at the mosques Yeah, and and have you know break bread with all these families and go to their houses for You know whatever the holidays the various faiths and it's such a rewarding thing because sometimes I'll be honest

I'm a picky eater and I didn't like the food all that much All right, but it wasn't you know, it wasn't about that is about I think you just dog whistled your white bona fides I'm a picky eater, but I'm a big chicken strip sky. That's the whitest thing you can say I already said I went to IHOP very frequently I'm not like I Don't I don't have a lot of food cred outside of spiciness, but see I had the complete opposite experience And that's the thing when I was growing up. I Only was around white people. It wasn't until I moved away that it was like

Oh, I am interested in like experiencing other cultures and meeting other people And I feel like if my family if so many families just like gave themselves the opportunity to Go to places where they're Not white all of a sudden a lot of those conservative viewpoints just disappear Well, the untrue parts dude, you know, it's the it's the the fears and the other ring goes away when you recognize quite legitimately Everybody has so much more in common than they have out of common infinitely more in common and for Alex to be fighting back against that and arguing that's a race pimp argument

Yeah, it's crazy and I made a point of stopping the clip early to say like he's are he's Presenting it as like the headline is whites need to become the minority Tim King didn't say that He's saying putting yourself in situations where you aren't the you know, it's not all white people Yeah, very rewarding and it helps it helps everybody. Yeah helps you it helps Everyone else just imagine because we all come together. We have all much more empathy We have much more understanding as opposed to staying in our stupid bubbles and listening to world World net daily

bright Bart and Jerome Corsi and all these these white supremacist narratives think about every single black child who was on The Vanguard of school integration in the 60s. Mm-hmm. You will never experience that No, if you're a white person, how could you ever even consider judging somebody who has been through that? Unless you spend a lot of time being in the minority in a lot of situations You'll never comprehend it and if you judge them for their experience. You're fucking idiot totally you are yep That's all you can be that's the part that's much more difficult for me to talk about but I understand is just as valid and Absolutely more real which is the fact that the other I don't say the other because we're white

Yeah, you know like anyone else who is not in the Caucasian situation right has to deal with that great time the Caucasian I'm sure there's a neo-nazi act called that I'm positive. I Would go the other way. I think there's a black nationalist group called the Caucasian situation I bet there's both. Yeah, just one with has a z and the other doesn't that's what I'm guessing But the one has the white has one has the SS as a z. Yeah, yeah But the yeah, I it's more difficult for me to talk about that because it's an experience I don't have and it's impossible for me to really even relate to necessarily except for my limited version of Being in situations where I was and even even when I was in fucking elementary school

I was in Hawaii like when I for a couple years in elementary school We lived in Honolulu and me and my brother were two of four white kids in the entire school Mm-hmm. So like I so when did you move back to America? Hey, ah, I mean the mainland came back in 94 I think went to Missouri, but like, you know, I came back as well lived in Puerto Rico You're so far from America even even that hillbilly would say Puerto Rico Making it you don't know my hillbillies. I only know them. You only know your hillbillies. Yeah but like yeah, I mean I Had that experience, but it wasn't as as sincere. You know what I mean? It never will. Yeah

There's no way for a white person to ever understand what it's like to be black in America. Nope. I Mean, there's not case closed. Yeah, so Let's move on to this next clip. Yeah Anyway, my point of all that I believe is that Alex is like in real time You can see him just completely lying about Tim Kaine's Comments and it's the only reason to lie about that is to stoke white fear and racial division Yeah, and the idea that he's arguing that he is trying to create racial division is is ludicrous and and very irresponsible Hey, you know what whenever I hear somebody call for empathy. My first thought is you want to kill whites

That's obvious. Well, what else could there be to think if you're what are you asking me to put myself in like Somebody else's walk of life. That is trying to kill white people. You sound and you know what? You sound like you would not be in the minority You know, it's you know, it's strange I Kind of think that that idea of white identity is kind of built around as you said earlier It's built around exclusion not inclusion. So in a certain sense, you could say he's correct The idea of empathy directly counters white people which is why as my campaign statement

soft yes on white genocide All right Let's move forward. Okay, and his next clip Remember how we talked about city con earlier, but he's a monster. No, he's a great. He's a great guy Alex thinks he's a monster even a good mayor like everybody really likes him as a mayor Well, you don't know you don't know some of the stuff Alex knows. Okay Soros hack reveals plot behind Europe's refugee crisis many of a manipulation cash for social justice Call in the groups. I feel like that's a good

Keep them under your control get them on welfare Detonate burn cities and then start banning people's free space to criticize your own program Advertise Europe's open advertise all the free goodies are there. We're getting to that next get ready for it. Boom London mayor to set up police online hate crime hub. This guy is a Muslim. I did not see what's real law He says he will not follow the Brexit and will make London an Islamic State basically they're banning images of women in bathing suits on city owned property billboards and buses Hitting and hitting hard. They're putting Muslim police chiefs in almost everywhere I mean it is on and the reign of terror is on

That's astonishingly racist Mm-hmm. I mean, that's really it's breathtaking really racist Muslims can't be cops Yeah, no, and if they are they can't be like a general of the cops. No, they're They can only they have to report to our police chiefs That's a reign of terror because we just put terrorists in charge of the police and we can't do that We need white terrorists in charge of the police Dan This is fundamentally like like without any deconstruction. That is some flagrantly racist That is really racist and we can that is old guy at a park racist

Let's split this a tiny bit just because the the the rebuttal is always that Muslim isn't a race So it can't be racist by by by by by you mean brown fuck off like fuck off Fuck off. I only brought that up so you could make that rebuttal which I agree with This is crazy. I mean, this is this is this is patent nonsense Yeah, it's it's all just in response to the idea of like trying to do a better job about like systematic Racial and religiously based hatred that's that's it's on line I mean if you don't even if you want to pretend to to entertain his argument

Replace Muslim with black and you clearly see how racist it is. No, you all they have That all of these all of these black people are becoming police chiefs It's clearly a reign of terror like what are you fucking talking about you old fucking racist piece of shit We've experienced that in the past. Yeah, but well actually we've experienced it pretty much word-for-word in the past Yeah, it's all the same shit. I mean you let black people become president and then they're everywhere man I told you I texted you this and like this is something that's so like It's nuts like I had a you know Passing understanding and like I knew a bit about you know, the white nationalist uprisings that happened in the 90s

Some of that shit in the 80s. Yeah, but I didn't I didn't know nearly as like I'd never watched videos of their leaders talk You know, yeah watch this documentary the other day about Oklahoma City and about the roots of it, you know Yeah, the roots were in Ruby Ridge and Waco should have never given you that Netflix password Well, but I'd seen I'd seen similar things in the past, but what really like I And I could have watched this documentary in the past and not gotten as much from it as I did and what I got from it is Watching the like white separatist leaders from the early days talk They use the same language that Alex does now like it's a parallel It's bizarre to watch like if you go back and watch these guys who had like the the

That that compound in northern Idaho. Yeah, you go and listen to those white supremacists give their sermons There's so much talk about sovereignty. Yeah, there's so much talk about the ethnic identities There's so much talk about this replacement fear, right? It's all in there it's every everything is the same and That makes me think that we have been doing nothing for two years because it's like, yeah, you could just look at that and be like Yeah, that's what that's what he's doing. Yeah, who was it? I Think I was me out a little bit. I read very obvious. I read somebody recently who put forth a Solid statistical argument for white supremacy showing up in full strength every 30 years

Yeah, like it may be it may just be correlation But his his main point was like, all right, so we got a shit ton of white supremacy now, right? What was 30 years before this? The neo-nazi movement. Yeah, what was 30 years before that regular? The Nazi movement. What was 30 years before that? That was pre Depression crash when everybody was totally against Jews and blacks and everything 30 years before that is probably when the protocols That was coming around that was the 1890s and 30 years But like it seems and 30 years before that was the Civil War like it's it's a weird weird

It's a weird coincidence that we it's like it's like somebody arguing that they're the full moon changes things where right? You're like, no, it's a blood moon. It's just you can you can see it and you associate it with it But it might just be that we never learned from our mistakes and history ever has a way of Going underground and yeah coming back up. What was it? History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes something along those lines. That was the classic quote. It's a remix. Yeah So the one thing just like our Kelly and is right never mind the one thing that he's not a remix and that is always Consistent through history the original version of ignition Alex Jones makes bad predictions. Here's one of his predictions Okay, I'm always excited for a prediction of 2016 we talked to our

contact we talked to our pipeline to the Secret Service and They added some very important information Dealing with Hillary staging a false flag against herself an assassination attempt That lines up with our other information that comes from another source from another agency sounds all fake to me, baby Hillary's gonna false flag herself cool That seems like a dangerous plan. Oh big time and dumb very dumb. Yeah, very very dumb And now we we know that didn't happen

Oh No, the the accidental headline of like can a woman with permanent brain damage become president I don't think so. Oh, dude. Yeah, I mean you heard that earlier when he's talking about that tumor eats the rest of her Mellon. Yeah. Yeah, he's deep in the like she's she's about to die Oh for sure. Like I didn't I didn't see in those pictures where she has bags under her eyes That's clearly deaf. I didn't leave in most of the times he's talking about that But like I would say a good third of this show is just him being like She's gonna die anyway. She's in a wheelchair secretly that that's what it's like. Oh boy. Okay, so

We know that from that clip that Alex's prediction is bad, but he has sources. Yes Multiple sources one who has the information one who has confirmed the information interesting got two sources Now there's two sources that he cites in this next clip Well, if now admittedly Zach is not on the run yet. No nor is he even in the fold? Yeah, but it could be in play but but but but but all that aside those are credible sources Because they're probably made up these sources are real see if you can figure out what sources he's deriving some of his information from We are unattack. This is the 21st century war. It's economic. It's replacing humans. It's destroying the family It's turning us all against each other. This is a scientific attack and they tell you what they're doing in the movie the Kingsman

They dumb it down that a wavelength being sent out over the cell phones To cause our primitive brains to kick on and make us kill each other That's one of the source. That is a dumbed-down allegory of what's actually going on Working with other billionaires to wipe out the population of the earth 99% to bring in a utopia Now You may have heard of that theme before moon raker second in the life by Ian Fleming Telling you

The allegory of going up into space while you bio weapon the whole earth You could put you only live twice up there the biological pathogen Runs its course like in 12 monkeys phases out is Designed to Mutate until it's no longer harmful like in the earth and repopulate it with your eugenics dream They're telling you the plan like an endromast and jump in a straight You know how many more movies would you like this exact same theme to be it or that even take that out of it?

And just choose another science fiction movie like you could play this game with any movie Like it's like interspace sure. That's how we developed our new Surgery techniques, you know what osmosis jones was a documentary Here's like it just fucking stop it, you know like this We never went to the moon, but journey to the center of the earth was true. Absolutely a remake not the original I Mean this this is just the sort of stuff. That's embarrassing. That's just like I mean, I don't know like If you had a point you wouldn't constantly reference movies, you know what I'm saying which he doesn't like because Hollywood is a liberal

Propaganda machine part of the globalist. Yeah, absolutely, but they have to review movies and that's why he watches every that's why he watches every movie So stupid so stupid, but anyway, so at this point we have we ever actually so you've done a lot of great work Thank you cataloging all of Alex Jones's beliefs not all of them. Have you considered? also cataloging all of his movie references and Kind of developing a unified field theory of what Alex Jones prefers in a movie because I feel like he's a huge science fiction buff Oh, yeah, but that's just the dreams of men right, but I mean like Yeah, and we'll get we'll get into that a little bit later He says something a little bit later. That's like, oh, I get I get everything not just that

Like a fan of David Lynch like he's he's all over the place man No, I think he was a fan of David Lynch because David Lynch agreed to come on his show. I don't think that's true I don't think he's actually a lynching and guy, right? Well, he didn't get the Wait, no, he did get the no he did he didn't get the OJ In Lost Highway. Mm-hmm. Was it lost? No, it was a fuck it whatever you're talking about. I know Yeah, you know what I'm talking about whenever he got it way wrong who cares. Here's the point. All right We we we've been talking for about an hour now about like some of these petty narratives that he brings up

And the reason that you can't ignore them are the things like Tim Kaine That that clip stuff like that but that are just outright. This is so fucking racist. Yeah, the stuff about city cons It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. So when I'm listening to that like I can't ignore that But when I got to this next clip was when I was like, oh, no, I was right to go back to this episode Okay, because he starts with Alex rambling about George Soros and then something happens There's no future under this new world order and I don't care whether it's MI6 or the CIA or the FBI or The Russians Everybody is coming together and realizing this new world order has got to be stopped

I mean, we're gonna let some 87 year old crazy Nazi collaborator Freakazoid Residents and and bring us into world financial ruin because he wants to lord over a bunch of poor people because he's an asshole I'm excuse me using that term. I apologize because because it's not strong enough for him. He is a demonic demon Who wants to run the world And of course, he can't do that because of business He can't do it because a free market. He can't dominate so he has to blow it all up to say he rules it I've got to read this. Hold on one second Okay, Pratt

remember that Thing I said earlier about that particular article like I like I said post it under our byline Entire thing please. Thank you So he got a text in the middle of this show From somebody we all know who that is. Yeah, goose for two point up Roger Stone Okay, he got a text from Roger and I'm certain it's from Roger because he goes on to say this now Let's go ahead and get to this article that Roger Stone wrote For the Hill newspaper. He also sent it to us to post it in full wars.com. Wait, Roger

Can the 2016 election be rigged you bet so Roger Stone Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you might need a while to decompress on that hold on wait Hold on. Yep If you are if you are telling me this correctly This is the day after yep, this is the day after August 16th 2016 the day after He writes an article literally said the election can be rigged. Yep. Oh god. He's fucked He's so fucked. He's establishing a narrative using info wars as the conduit for it to put it out I guess they had a byline on the hill too. I'm not entirely sure I was only able to find the article on info wars

Okay, I could find the article and it's just about how Hillary is going to rig the election Right the evidence that he cites primarily comes from that Stanford article That is not a study right Stanford paper on here reviewed paper He uses that as an extrapolation point and then talks about how a bunch of voting machines can be hacked Which is a very valid concern. It's it uses that and they were but he uses that to create a primary narrative That Trump is going to lose by hacking or something like that, right? Which is sort of the backdoor way of I know you are but what am I right? Exactly creating that foundation. Yep, because it's important to do that when you're doing that. Yeah

That's really smart though. Very like it's it's fun. It's like Every time they said when they go low we go high you look back at that and you're like oh Going low is so much more successful, but also the cheating wins. The other problem too is that like The reality of the conversation the Democrats probably should have been having had all the information been out on the table and known Is that they go low? They're going lower than you think. Yeah, like that's the issue. Yeah, it's like Trump insulting like that gold star family Yeah, that's pretty fucking low. That's low. That's pretty fucking low But behind that was that was actually disguising how much lower they were going at the same time exactly

Yeah, it's the Matador flipping a red cape. Yeah to get you to charge that direction instead of hitting you Yeah, and I mean look there's no way to slice this This is very clear to me what's going on like this is Roger Stone creating this this Essentially straw man. He's doing this because he's in contact with Russian intelligence agents I don't believe for a goddamn second that the emails and the private messages that have been released are the only Messages, of course. No, that's not even a possibility in my mind There's no chance of that and the fact that he's not named in that indictment is damning to him

Oh, no, he's because if he was named in that it would be different They're saving some of that because they have more information Yeah, no, of course if they had named him in the indictment then you would know He was not part of the thing the fact that they kept it out of the indictment suggests that they are going to Indite him or the same or yeah, there's tons more information That's yet to be connected which I would argue is probably further communiques further Information that the probe the Muller probe has that we don't have yeah To me when I see that I'm like Rogers fucked and I want to look at and I still think he's got a deal quite frankly

But when I saw that and I was like, let's look back at this next day in 2016 and I saw that Alex's main Archive YouTube channel doesn't have this episode up and then I listen to it and Alex gets a text while he's on air To publish this article about how Hillary is going to steal the elect is election fraud possible You bet like that sort of thing that to me that to me is fucking clearly indicative of something again, God damn it the Balls on this guy to have a conversation about Rigging the election and then the next day write an article about how they're rigging the election

Like his article should have missed it should have just been like can you rig an election? God damn right? That's what I've been doing my whole years man. Now it gets so much worse Put your mic down. Okay, and there's gonna be more hacks a little bird told me or there were other hacks that have certain parties directing the fraud and Preparing at the general election And organizing the illegals to vote and the dead people to vote. Oh I'm afraid all the emails will be released before you have the election And no amount of false flags

Soros are going to put that genie back in the little bottle You Can run on for a long time creepy man So Alex you just admitted that you have advanced notice of things that are to come and the content of those things You know what you know what that proves though Alex thinks Hills Hillary is gonna win. Yep, like that is the only way that you become the weakest of links because This episode is like like you could just throw this in court and everybody's like oh

Yeah, yeah, he got the text that yeah, he this whole thing happened Yeah, yeah, this is and then he said on air Yeah, the shit that was going down and the only way the only way it would not be Investigated is if Hillary won. Oh, yeah, I mean this this should be played in court Yeah, absolutely this this episode is so clear like the brazenness and the the ha ha ha aspect of him being like oh A little birdie. It's fucking Roger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody knows that there's gonna be more leaks And it's months before the Podesta emails come out Yeah, like before Rogers like your time in the barrel is coming. Yeah, like all of this stuff is still to come Roger

Absolutely has advanced knowledge of the things that are about to be released and Alex is reporting this stuff from DC Leaks, which is another outlet from the GRU. Yeah, as we now know like this is very clear like I don't I Don't know any other way to slice it. I think Alex actually doesn't know like I think he's stupid Yeah, I think I think that he doesn't really he's a useful idiot. This is why we Talk about Alex is because he is the weakest link if he if he has no information to throw away Here's my first piece of evidence about that No one No one who knew the details of this stuff would come on air and laugh about how I've been told

There's more stuff coming and I know what's in it Yeah, and then earlier on the show be like I don't care if it's the Russians or something like that Yeah, like what do you say it earlier? Yeah, there's no way you would do that sort of thing unless you were like I think at this point quite frankly Alex might be This sort of behavior indicates that he's on the outest Most outermost level of the circle. Yeah, that Roger is using him as a a way to disseminate information Yeah, and is going to be sold out. Yeah, there's no way that Roger

Only texted Alex. No, there are we all I mean obviously one of the other people in that indictment was Lee strand hand. Yeah Yeah, I mean he's Boy, no, he's he's mixed up in this pretty hard to know and you have to and got sued along with Alex and is Deeply involved and you have to imagine that a lot of conservative media was given this information as well And they would not talk about it because they were like this is a bad idea Some of us to talk about some of them had the restraint to be like. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and only and that's this is That's fascinating because that's why it wound up in the hill Is because the hill was like well clearly this isn't true

It's coming from Roger Stone and the people that Roger texted at Breitbart or Fox news or whatever are like. Oh shit Roger You're committing all the crimes. We can't talk about this Otherwise, you've got a paper trail. Yeah, and Alex is like fuck. Yeah throw it on the air, baby And I know it's gonna believe this shit I'm Alex Jones and I'll reveal that I know more and yeah, like it's just yeah When I heard that last clip where he's just like laughing about knowing what's coming Yeah, like it's the same thing with that time. He talked about talking to Russian intelligence when he thought it was our team

Yeah, yeah, the same thing that a lot of people would hear that and be like well He's just lying about this and I I get that I understand. He's a liar. Yeah, I understand that Which is what makes him so useful in disseminating that but the plausible deniability of that is what's useful Yes, but I can tell at this point like I can tell sincerity from lying in him I believe yeah from listening to my Malcolm Gladwell level of Alex Jones and insane amount I have a pretty keen sense of like when he's trying to cover something up and when he's being sincere and to me I hear this and I got a I got like my heart was fluttering. Yeah, I was like, why did you say yeah?

And why is this episode not on your channel anymore? Well, because you said that that's a really big deal now The idea of when did Roger know x y or z? That's a huge deal in terms of the indictments and in terms of his testimony that he gave to the house Judicial committee like that's a really fucking serious issue. God damn it. Do are we gonna become material? witnesses Do we email? No, cuz I do we have it do we have a Mueller email address I have a faith. I have Robert Mueller at fbi.gov

I have a I have a certain amount of faith that if we know this then they do too I kind of don't I don't think there's any way that a serious investigator would be like Well, obviously we have to listen to one million hours of info We got a million but go to the dates that are important But I would also argue that if we jumped to this date at a different point in time We absolutely wouldn't have never missed it entirely. Yeah, we would have just been like Alex. You're just being fucking weird with that laugh Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, and I'll tell you what I would say that even more things He says later in this episode make it look even worse for him. Really? Yeah, check out this next clip

Toro season be arrested right now He goes to Russia. He will be okay. Cool. I Don't know if that's an endorsement or an indictment. I mean, it's it's it's Indicative of where Alex's head is that generally speaking if you go to Russia and are arrested? I'm probably on your side. You might be a journalist You might be someone who opposes Putin. Well, hold on if you get it in the opposition party If you get arrested, you're not a journalist if you get killed you're a journalist Well, not all if you get arrested. You're just a political prison hashtag not all journals. Yes

Just most minus one. Um, look dude. Yeah, I mean like who cares that that that's just like I mean When even when we were looking at 2015 he kept being like Putin is the answer. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so hearing like pro-russia shit is not like in any way But that's not that's not pro-russia shit so much as that is no, I mean so much as it is pro Autocrat shit. No, it's pro-russia in as much as he's saying The George Soros should be arrested by our government. Yeah, Russia's government would do it ergo. They're better Right. No, I get that be like Russia. Yeah, it is pro-autocrat, but it's also specifically pro-russia, but it could also be Shit was it is that hungry? Yeah in Ukraine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it could be though

That one fight I know not yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah Erdogan wants him out. Yeah, Turkey for sure. Yeah, there's a bunch of there's a bunch of Horrible states. Yeah, I'm sure he was a huge fan. I know these have been kicked out of yeah, they are personal non grata Generally speaking. They're the places where you have Nationalist uprisings crazy quote crazy. Yeah, it's crazy that he would be Technically speaking or or perhaps by word of mouth against the Cultural revolution that Mao put forth and yet at the same time for What it could be described as the exact same fucking thing that that Erdogan did bad Not important sir good call. I don't know it is important

But there's more important things. Yeah, and that is Jordan this clip Blew my fucking mind and I know that we just played a clip where like it could literally be evidence in a federal trial Yeah, if someone gets their hands on that because I think the timeline is very very very sketchy But I think that this I think that this next clip is even more mind-blowing in some ways Langley has been a donor to our podcast for a long time. You're talking about my old college friend Travis Langley Went out went out did some fire fighting after college is a good man as far as I know I haven't spoken to him like in 89 years But anyway Travis shout out. How's it going? This next clip dude is

Next episode we do is like apologies for shouting him out. He was a convicted of sexual assault two years ago I'm sure not. Yeah. He was one of those fun guys I don't know how much I want to get into he was one of those guys that could drink as much as me in college Then we because of that ended up sort of together a lot because everybody else in Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a good time Somebody is gonna be convicted two years ago and never know don't say such things But my dear friend Langley, I'm sorry anyway on this next clip. Like I said is profoundly fucked up I

Don't believe half of it But the part that you do believe is troubling No, I want it all to be true just because of the fun world that it creates and okay I mean reportedly Hillary talks like a sailor just walks around with her sleeves rolled up Punching Bill Clinton in the face before she was so ill I mean work and just when you know stealing not just the cutlery and plates, but furniture. I mean they're just They are total criminals they are trash their filth Obama doesn't steal stuff out of the White House and he's polite to people

The Clintons, you know, I really thought I think the Clintons are worse than Obama. In fact, I'm sure of it I mean Well, that's an evil energy about him and he's got he he he wants to bring the US down a few pegs and he is an Islamist Well, of course That's just and he said that like it was long. He's a horrible person. He's horrible But it really shows you something that Hillary behind the scenes Isn't ever nice

It's one thing in a high pressure. This is media. I get mad people have arguments that goes on But I'm sorry for it later about folks that are rude to me or sorry. I mean she doesn't give people tips You can't look her in the eyes She loves to get people fired. She loves to fire people. She loves to rub stuff in she loves to gloat over petting Hillary Clinton does not give tips. I Mean I get a good feeling out of being middle-class and having some extra money I'm a middle-class giving them a 20-25% sir bad service I'm not sure they complain, but if somebody's bad enough. I don't give them a tip

I call them over and say you're rude and you need to get ahead in life and not act So, you know have such an attitude problem Well, and then I'll say I mean and my family hates when I do this But I'm all about getting past comfort zones and I'll say real nice and I'll say something wrong Yeah, I'm really having a bad day. Okay. We still have a 15% tip them But probably better attitude you really get you know gave us attitude and everything and make sure you don't want to come This restaurant anymore. I mean, I'm all about really getting past comfort zones to people That's amazing

That's amazing. I read that post-mortem book on Hillary's campaign I can't remember the Yeah, and I was and even even that book which is Insanely critical of her campaign and the way that it was run even that book never says She didn't even tip 15% like you would have known You went to dinner with people but like all that I don't give a shit like all that's just sort of Alex rambling and trying to fill Time, but I love the image of Alex Jones trying to give therapy to a waiter. Hey, what's going on with your buddy? You know what? Do you know what?

For a fucking I genuinely believe and this this hurt me because I genuinely believe weight staff should be a protected class Like if you're an asshole to your weight staff that is borderline a hate crime Well, it's definitely abuse like yeah, like it's targeted abuse. What are you fucking doing? Oh, I'm only gonna give you 15% but I'm gonna give it talking to I would I Guaranteed because he's 95% of any weight staff. I've ever met would be like I would prefer you give me zero dollars but no speech he's then 15% and Talking to well, but this is like this is the perfect example of the like When we talk about being able to suss out live from truth in Alex like the oh yeah is I know about something

That's I have been told I have advanced knowledge of this stuff Yeah, the lie is I'm going to really really play up how empathic I am I'm yeah, I care about people like that is alive because he fleshed it out into an Elaborate scenario where everyone hates when I do this, but I always just tell people what do you have in a bad day? I'm still gonna tip you anyway, but you need to really know that makes me not want to come in here If Alex if Alex gives details, he's lying. Yeah, exactly his his truths are Well, I did this and then a you know, no big deal his lies are like and then I was born from the son of Calel and I went to this restaurant and there were eight old ladies, but two of them were

Like what are you fucking talking? It's not a perfect one-to-one example, but it's on the same episode So it bears like pointing. Yeah, that's a lie. What he said earlier is him representing truth Yeah, now we get back to the hack stuff and Alex says some really fucking unfortunate things that I believe make this episode this August 16th episode like The next level weird listen to this. Oh, we got some big story for you. Notice mainstream media attacks me all the time on stuff Silence about our leak come out and say I'm a liar. Hey, why the secret service dropped by he called it our leak Yeah That's a Freudian slip. No, that's a normal thing. No, it's our leak. No, it's not. No, it's our leak

It's like a no, no, it's like a general leak. It's it's the American People's League. No, really. No. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, it's the missing leak. No bigfoot. No no that's That means that he thinks he's a part of a team Let me ask you a question That means that he thinks that this is something that we are doing now and that's something that someone named Roger Stone has lied to him and told him That's what we're doing with the help of of course Steve Pachena if I remember correctly on August 16 probably Larry Nichols

But he's way more on the side Well, maybe on August 16th. I wasn't ready. He's still around So on August 16th the information though had not actually been Leaked correct most of it had most of it had yeah a couple days earlier, but but a lot Okay, so a couple of days earlier. Yes. Well, the the Soros emails had been leaked The Podesta emails had not yeah, that was the that was the big dump that came in October. So there is there is a There's a beginning of it, but not an end We're in the middle of it at this point and the only reason that this date is relevant to choose is that it's literally the next time

Alex was on air after we know that Roger Stone was in touch with Goose. Yeah 2.0. Yeah Yeah, so that's the only reason that we choose this date. I Bet I bet if we go to the 17th He says some more incriminating shit, but maybe not as incriminating our leak Are we really real? That's a super incriminating statement. Well, it means to me Here's that here's what it means to me and I take this from also this next clip Listen to this next clip and then I'll explain what I mean by what I think about him saying our leak

Joe Beggs is gonna be popping in later in the interview with more info. He got between the words conduit. I'll just Leave it that Pizza gate Joe Biggs has not been fired yet. He's still around. Yeah, and he has information that's come from his conduit We'll leave it at that And then I'm gonna talk to him about how he thinks this whole plan is going How's it going for Soros when we know that intelligence agencies private corporations and other groups are now Hacking the Democratic Party the entire Democratic Party the entire Soros operation the Clintons It's all gonna get data dumped and

Earlier stuff was the Russians the carbon taxes being exposed the high the decline Climategate stuff that is the Russians and the Russians are actively penetrating stuff But this is not the Russians that this is US intelligence agencies leaking right now Risking their lives because they know something we don't know about Hillary that's so bad It's finally turned the basically the whole government against them. So here's what's going on Alex Alex has high-end dudes Like Eric Prince in black water you have people like Steve Pechenik and Roger Stone that are lying to him and confirming details

amongst themselves That are they're trying to tell him that like yeah, yeah, the Russians hacked a bunch of stuff before and they're still trying stuff But this isn't them this one this one is this Specific one that we desperately need you to think isn't them is actually the Patriots US intelligence Patriots within risking their life services because Hillary has gone too far and this is why even though which we now know they have spent Hours upon hours upon hours upon hours upon years Actually disproving that Hillary has committed any crime in the specific way that Alex is describing

Yeah, she's committed crimes, but not these ones. Yeah, it's it's just fucking it's it's insane to me like how Like again, I hate to keep saying a right-thinking person because that becomes so much like a what do you think that is? I think someone who's not infected with brainworm. Let's go with reasonable thinking person Sure Yeah, I've been trying to train myself to not say reasonable so much because it used to be like a trigger for me used to be the Centrist thing. Yeah. Yeah, I got you but like No, it just used to be almost of my Tourette's saying something is reasonable Ah, but like this to me is like actionable if no if you look at this

The only assessment you can really come away from and I would welcome anybody to go listen to this whole three-hour episode You're not gonna get more Context to any of this other than you can listen to Alex interview Doug Hagman for a bit I would not recommend anybody listen to this entire three-hour episode. It's not super relevant It's just gonna be repetition of a bunch of the same shit We talk about a bunch, but like if you listen to this what you I don't think you can come away from is Alex is gloating like crazy About what he knows is coming. He has this information all this stuff And then he says things like this which indicate to me that he has had people like like we say

Roger Stone Steve Cheneck, right? Maybe Eric Prince if the two of them are in contact Alex's sense come out and said that Eric Prince was a big Source of information for god damn it, but you have these people who are telling him I'm guy you had these people who are telling him like no this wasn't the Russians Yeah, and then at the same time you have this indictment that's come out just in the present That is a lot of very specific information about the specific computers the specific emails that these GRU agents were using Which is that matches up perfectly with what he describes the yeah that provided the information that Alex is saying this time It wasn't the Russians. Yeah, which is what?

Roger Steve Cheneck and those dudes are telling him behind the scenes. Yeah, so what you have here. I think is Alex Acting as a pets. Yeah, I and I think that since all of this and since the heat has gotten really hot the reason that Alex is so boring is like There's two things. I think that he realized at some point that like this is the game that's being played I can't play it anymore. Yeah, and so he still supports Trump because of the white nationalist Movements that are still being emboldened and he's he's pushing through the legislation that he would like to be there and things like that Yeah, but he also recognizes that he did things like this on air. Yeah in 2016. Yeah, that are Evidence and that's why his show is boring in 2018. He knows people are listening Like he didn't know that people were listening back then. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mean it like he didn't think anyone was listening

He just thought like hey, this doesn't matter. It's all good. I mean and and you know what it's not all good It's not all good that puts a nail in the coffin of ever Convincing or not just ever convincing ever like Making Alex confront the fact that he has been lied to and taken advantage of well takes away so much of his masculinity Right power because because if he took that episode down Which we can't confirm or blah blah blah blah If he if he was specifically not cool with this episode being out that suggests for knowledge That is intense like if you're or if you're going to create

If you're going to create like a couple days later you realize like oh shit What did I say but that's but that's what I'm saying that suggests that he found out that he was fucking Fucked on this one by them or or later in the day Roger called him and like I was like you got to take that down That's also possible. You just drifted out because what's because it's dangerous and you're gonna hurt my sources or whatever Could have even been six months later. I mean who knows like I have no idea I have no idea whether this never went up or it was taken down Right only know that it's an anomaly in terms of the episodes that I try to find from these years Years that this guy has posted everything which is smoke but not fire

But damn it if it looks like it's smoke from a fire my my point just being like if we To me there's always been a romantic idea of like if we could just Get to him and just like You're bet dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah to look at this Rather or not we agree on policies or anything like that all we can genuinely prove to you is that the people You've surrounded with are trying to fuck you over, but I think he knows he knows that now Yeah, right? I think that means that gets rid of any possibility ever of redemption. Oh, there never was one No, but I'm saying like there's there's so there's there aren't many times where you can point to a concrete example of

Him being actually aware that he was fucked by the people that he supposedly trusts Hmm, you know what I'm saying like so many times We've pointed out that he was fucked by the people he trusts But this is a confirmation the fact that this episode is an up deal when he came on and talked about Mars bases and then Alex Was like this guy is probably deep state He was trying to get on my show and say some dumb shit when he's been on the show multiple times right that not like It's not like it's an anomaly for him to be on or say something weird It's just right the media picked up on the Mars base thing that he said because he's also a project Camelot guest

And so like delightful, but you know like you have that Where he that's someone who he trusted and realized I can't trust him and then had to disavow them Yeah, but Robert Robert Mars base like you can you he doesn't really trust anybody about a Mars base He wasn't as deeply in he trusted him about other things though, right? But okay fairer wasn't as deeply entrenched as someone like Roger Stone is now exactly. He's such a like he's become Woven into the DNA of info wars. Yeah last two years or so like to the point where if he goes down Alex goes down It's inextricable, but it's not actually that that's that's not true There's a way that Alex can dodge like if Roger Stone goes to prison. I

Think Alex can dodge it. I think I think it's I think it's possible, but again. I've talked about this I agree. Yeah, I talked about this for a fucking year like even if these guys go to prison Like right here this episode is the closest I have ever come to being like Alex is going to prison Yeah, like because this is this is damning Well, this is an indication that he had advanced knowledge that he didn't admit to yeah now He hasn't perjured himself like he hasn't gone in for interviews So he's still like on the right side of the law if he comes clean which he can do but it involves selling out Roger Okay, new plan

No longer. Are we going to romanticize the idea of ever convincing him that he's fucked over? Here's what we do we email his lawyer All right, right and his lawyer is like by the way. Yeah, right re we email them All right, and we send that email. We have these clips. They hear it all we do is Get an email back that is just them salivating at the billable hours. Yeah, like that's all that's going on right here If if this if this information is part of Mueller's probe This is so many billable hours like the lawyers if they heard this pre they would go Ape shit, they'd be like, ah, we're gonna be rich

I really think that this sort of thing these these indications are the sort of thing that like you could get Alex to flip Because he is the lead he has a business to protect. He has tons of kids You're like he doesn't want to go to prison like I know oh I know that he believes in what he believes in and all that He's worried he'll be attacked by black people in prison certainly Yeah, and then have his kids taught prison mentality that would be terrible him when they visit him in prison It's been it's a program that's been in place for at least a year Alex goes to prison and pretends that he couldn't have done these radio shows because he was off earth at the time It becomes the new Mark Richards for us

Cycle continues like the last season of the wire. Yeah every 30 years that new Alex Jones gets interviewed by knowledge fight Yeah, I mean look it's just I don't know. I don't know how to put any buttons on this and we have more clips But like it's just It's nonsense to me like I hear this and I'm like the only way out is Bad yeah for him. Yeah, but I don't I still don't think like I Think at the end of the day, he's a white supremacist fuck and I hate him So much his rhetoric is cancerous and it's the worst and all these people who are talking about like should he be allowed on Facebook? Like I don't think that I don't think that's a valid conversation to have. Yeah, I don't give a shit

I think I think that their Facebook should choose and if they don't choose don't like you get off Facebook, you know I don't I don't know. I'm it's not clear to me. I I hate him I hate him, but I don't think that like even all this like even this dammit This is damning stuff Still I still think he's stupid like yeah, I think that he's smart about a lot of the cultural issues He's cancerous about but I would say he's not smart. He's canny No, I like he's got a he's got an instinct No, I think he knows what he's doing on a social front and the racial stuff like when he was yelling about Tim K

Yeah, I think yeah, he's doing and he's in charge of stuff there of being racist But I think with this secret information and all this counter-coup narrative and all this I think he's He's the mark. Yeah, and I think you can see it played out on air. Yeah, and I don't I Think it would be disingenuous to be like he's committed treason because what we're talking about is treason like the the acts that we're talking about are Sedition against America, but I mean you say that But it's like stealing an election. Is that so bad? I mean if it was dukes of hazarding it, you know, like like how are they gonna get away with this one stealing an election?

Oh boy, right? They stole you're in a patent Oswald bit about Bush and Cheney They got a little bit of data and they ran with it. Yeah, you know, like, you know, that's shady But that's not this but this is is no this is crime. This is crime This is crime and you can't hide behind the idea that it was like these wonderful people in the intelligence agencies because It's very clearly forensically been studied and that is not the case so I Still don't think he's committed treason When I have heard him in the past talk about like people are investigating him. I always take that with a grain of salt

I always have heard things from like McClatchy have read those articles. Yeah, it's like they're Investigating social media's presence. Yeah, right wing media's. Yeah. Yeah. Is this intentional? Was their coordination and stuff like that? That was always been the point of that investigation. If that was going on a year and a half ago And Alex is on air talking about advanced knowledge of leaks and hacked documents and stuff like that Then he has to know that like I'm in the fucking hopper. Yeah, so here's my prediction Either Alex needs to flip and change his narrative which I don't think is ever gonna happen or Shit's gonna get real dark

He might he might get indicted too. I Never thought this until I listen to this episode disagree. I think that he might get indicted I really don't think anybody is listening to this. I We said we talked about this off air. I don't think I don't think serious people take this seriously I think that if you have I mean part of the reason that we take it seriously is because we are Not serious. We are decidedly Unserious people. I think that if you are Investigation and you're focusing on Roger Stone and you realize oh

Roger Stone has buddied up with this right wing media network Yeah, you'd probably that one of the easiest forensic things to do is like find out what he said on that show on various days Yeah, so I do think that this stuff is very well known to investigators, right? I think it has to be if it's not then Boy you guys Here's here's why I feel like and this is not to say that it is more valid Here's why I feel like my assessment of this particular situation Regarding what the FBI regards as serious is more valid. I

Listen to way less Alex Jones than you fair enough and generally speaking of the 99.99% of the population we all feel like Alex Jones can be disregarded right and it is never a bad idea to suggest that people Investigating things can disregard details that would help them. Oh sure. I mean, that's that's generally the reality Let me just goes back to that like when you're looking at one thing your peripheral vision is blurred Yeah, you know like if you if you focus on one thing you don't see the very obvious thing on the side Yeah, of course man, and that's this and the obvious thing though is at the same time Info wars, you know and it's damning. Yeah, so in this next clip Alex talks about these these

Soros hacks and these DC leaks and the DNC leaks and he says that they say things that they don't say but It sounds exactly like all of his narratives. They're a bunch of hacks Well, so they're like Have you ever heard about info wars playing food? Yeah, white activists and black activists are different DnC emails are out. There's tens of thousands of them within days of them being out We've already gotten into the emails. They're up on info wars.com Rogerport.com from a daily caller and others have dug them up saying We're gonna bring in the migrants and get a bunch of government money to take care of and then use them as political weapons and

Make it the new normal and merge the Middle East with Europe and take over the u.s And use the new immigrant groups as our political voting block control everything and call everybody races that don't go along with it I mean, this is a criminal conspiracy and we have the diary It's open and shut It's open and shut Go back to mr. Hagman in a moment. We are running a special on one of our top Solid work I just shot a man in the face and also we got an Easter special going on

I watched some of these Netflix documentaries about various crimes and I will admire them for not trying to sell something during them crime and trying to sell something in the same fucking sentence That's kind of heroic. It's amazing on a certain level That is heroic might be the best ad pivot. Oh, yeah, so everyone drink that that might be the that might be the tops. So I'll say There's been a lot of uncertainty about a lot of things for a long time there's been some Impressions of certainty after the clips you played there. There is some less uncertainty and then also with this like I'll admit that an indictment isn't a hundred percent proof of fact

But no, it is it is a claim based on evidence that has been collected, right and and based on everything that our information and our our criminal justice system right our investigative bodies have put out it is very clear that DC leaks and Goose for 2.0 were Entities for Russian hackers to use to disseminate information that they stole. Yes from the DNC and from Soros and from John Podesta later than right now why this can absolutely be confirmed as true is Because for all of Mueller's indictments, these are the ones to say Muller. I've been criticized really Oh, okay. Muller. It's Muller. Sorry. I've got some blowback. You know what?

I never know like there's you know sounds better like if there was a Cubs player named Bill Muller for a while But I didn't know if there's ever I don't want to be a dick, but someone has yelled at me about this agreed. I'm fine with that but I'm Here's why this one I feel like can absolutely be confirmed as true regardless is that this is the first Indictment I feel like that Muller's brought that will mean nothing Because none of the 12 people that he is indicted will ever be extradited to the United States What are you talking about companies? The couple six eight months ago or so he indicted some companies some number that

Which ones some some Russian companies that we're in. Oh, yeah. No, you're right But it's the same thing of like that. It's it's just like guys, we're presenting incontrovertible evidence simply because Nothing can be done about it. No those people are not going to be extradited. Yeah. Yeah, of course not What kind of world would Trump who fucking loves Putin ever be like as we're recording this probably is talking Well talking is a hard word to use. I would say giving him a handy

like what world would he be like, okay, well We got a We got to do this Muller come up with some good shit. Isn't that right? Hey, hey Putin Give me 12 guys from your military so I can Prosecute them in the United States suck. Come on. Yeah, not that never would happen So but I agree with the with the bottom line what you're saying and that is that I think this is absolutely accurate Yeah, these were the people who were involved in the DC hex. Yeah DC leaks Undoubted and goose for it cannot be disputed makes it that much more embarrassing that Alex says this

Oh, no, everybody has to move it once then they can't get us all. Yes, we need to come out We need to come out with this information mass wave information warfare attacks Roger that. Well, hey, I want to salute the folks that hacked the Democrats their criminals I want to salute the folks that hacked Soros. I mean and listen. This is only the beginning There's only the beginning it didn't Salute, I mean, yeah salute to you hackers. Yeah boy He wouldn't say this stuff if he knew Like this is a guy who's being tricked, you know, I'm saying like yeah, yeah, I don't

Well, there is a version that he would like there is a person who would say that if he knew yeah And I don't think that fits Alex Jones's profile. No, I think he is completely hook line and sinker on this stupid narrative at August 16th 2016 who knows what he knows later, but at this point He's being fucking lied to undoubted and he is thrilled about it. And that's why he's so Outward with things that are damning and evidence. Yeah Okay, so here's how we get Alex. All right, both of us move to Texas. We spend to it We first off. I loved it down in Austin. Yeah, no, it was great down. It's nice to be closer to my parents I love the city. There's so much there. There's that great hot sauce shop. Yeah

Yeah, there is not a good hot sauce shop in Chicago incredible. Yeah, so what we do Spend Two to four years in law school pass our LSATs pass the bar go to go to town Right. All right, we spend four years as public defenders Then we parlay that into a private practice. Okay, eventually we run on the campaign Yeah, absolutely, we've got the we've got the whole thing right they have to pretend relatives of yours as partners Then get more names on the side then 15 years from now we run for attorney general. Okay, okay

Finally we have the authority to take the information that we have gathered over this past two years and Defeat Alex Jones and by that point statute of limitations has come. Yeah, but but we don't need to worry About that. I don't know if there's a statute of limitations on trees Well he committed treason about ten years ago, but there's nothing we can do accessory to treason like cuz I don't think I know I Know how bad a propagandist he is but like I Still think that like there are people who are from my My view. Yeah, and admittedly, I don't know everything. I only have the the information that I have I Think that there are people who are actively involved in this and people who are passively involved

Alex is passively involved in the treason aspect of it. Yeah, he's actively involved in the propaganda part of it Yeah, I think that propaganda is not a crime, but should be I Don't think you were necessarily have a crime to hang him on for that. Yeah I think that in terms of his involvement in all this. I think that the He's probably a guy who you know, which is which is both why he is Used for this specific purpose like people tell him way too much or or at least at least for a way too much Strategically way too much. Yeah. Yeah, they tell him way too much for two guys who spend all of our time talking about Alex Jones Yeah, yeah, but in reality

They tell him way more than is necessary in order to get out in front of the narrative and make it seem crazy But I also think that it's possible that like the steves and the the Rogers Who were manipulating him because it's very clear that that's a huge part of it. Oh, yeah, absolutely I also think that he's an idiot from everything I can tell and I might be like I say I might be wrong about everything But like everything I can tell you have Steve and Roger Coordinatingly manipulating him on this side. Yeah, Larry Nichols manipulating him But I don't think it's all involved like I don't think the three of them are involved now I think Larry Nichols is another side thing, but he's yeah, exactly Larry Nichols is not part of the cabal

He's being pulled in a similar direction by Larry too. He's being manipulated in a similar anti-Hillary way Yeah, but Larry is more fun about it. Absolutely. Yeah, I would never yeah, and I don't think Larry Nichols is committing treason I think he's just a crazy old dude. He's just a lunatic. He's just a crazy old liar. Yeah. Yeah, but I Lost my train of thought entirely, but I think that When you have when you have a situation like this, it's The burden of proof of someone actually Doing like something that we're talking about. Yeah, we're talking about treason. We are talking about treason He should be hung by the neck until dead

I believe the burden of evidence is pretty high and When I look at Alex and I look at stuff like this like what's crazy to me Legitimately is that looking at this episode the day after Roger Stone a hundred percent was in touch with Russian intelligence You have Alex saying fucking damning stuff that he knows things and he's been told stuff. I Still think he's on the outside. I still think that there's an innocence There which is hard for me to wrestle with as someone who Studies him and hates him and thinks he should be held accountable for so many things Yeah, I don't know how to deal with this like this this to me

I mean it's such a such a hard thing to wrestle with that. I have I found something Alex You are bragging on air of advanced notice of leaks that are gonna come out Which is a huge part of what you deny is part of your information base in the present Yeah, I Still think the only thing reason he's lying about it now is cuz he's realized he was lied to back then at the very least He is finally aware that he is an accessory. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's an accessory to treason which kind of still is treason Or or maybe even not kind of and it is and the cover-up is crazy And the cover-up is what we see going on right now with all the modern-day Alex, right?

Which is why it's so boring. I think so too. Yeah, so boring because it's just And that's why I wish you would just go back to being weird. I kind of think if he bailed on Trump The Fox News people would follow Yeah, I think you'd be the bellwether. Yeah, I think I think that if I think if he got it Yeah, if he got mass approval From being like holy shit Trump lied to us the whole time like if Trump is a fucking yeah If he somehow was like proof of concept. Yeah, they're like, oh this can work. Yeah, maybe then they would jump on board Maybe yeah, it's entirely possible. He certainly led them down this road

I don't know. I don't know What I come away from more and more is that I don't know I don't know but I know you know I know people have committed treason That's not a That's not a Arguable fact at this point the added information that I get from listening to this episode and talking about it is not like It doesn't invalidate anything that I thought before yeah It adds to it a little bit in terms of like figuring out the picture of stuff

But it doesn't invalidate anything it doesn't you know like our our previous Concept of what happened is very intact just with more like yeah It's more it's it's just evidence that Alex Alex has information that he's not saying yeah and that part is like Something's gonna have to happen with that but at the same time the question is if you're a Muller Whether or not you are aware that you are going to be attacked by a foreign power and Report it or not is a question of like can you actually prosecute for somebody sure you know like Roger stone that's every DA is yeah exactly

Jogging yeah, if you're Roger stone you're aware that as we know now Russia committed a an act of a War a country like but at the same time the at the same time one of the one of the realities We have to admit is that the only way that we could possibly know this is If we hacked into their systems in the same way that they did to ours sure you know like that's it's not possible to know that in any Other way, so if you want to say you know they committed an act of war against us But you're now we you made it an act of war against them in that about ism here And I don't I don't actually think that it's the same thing. I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying it in a like

Moral like we should do I'm saying it in more of a I don't think I don't think us knowing about this is the same as What? like the defense Awareness the knowledge. I don't think it requires the same thing as the spear fishing and hacking right because some of that can just be done by monitoring Suspicious people agreed so and but it has been rightly pointed out that we absolutely helped install Boris Yeltsin So it's that was not the fucking 90. I know but that's not they didn't declare

War on us then like it's it's not I'm not saying that I want to be I'm not saying I'm on the side of anybody I'm just saying that this is something that should be oh that we should be aware of before People start saying that this is an act of war and we should like oh no, I think it's a burn everything down You know what I'm saying it's an act of war. I think it's an act of I Mean it's as well as desperate desperation. It's espionage Yeah, and that's the I mean the end result of it is of course don't fucking go to war with Russia Yeah, it's stupid. Yeah that idea. I know I understand what you're saying

And the the quid pro quo stuff of like we fuck with you So this is okay. I don't agree with that because I'm not saying it's okay. I don't think anybody's okay We should also stop doing that stuff. Yeah, but that's a different conversation now But in terms of like what how do we respond to this? I Think the only thing that you can do is go back to demonize the EU and the Jews Yeah, exactly. No, that makes sense No, what we we already talked about this the idea that Mueller is putting out these indictments that are impossible to ever enact Yeah, because they're not going to be extradited here

Of course, you have to get the evidence out that this is what happens So as much truth as possible and Ken Burns can make a documentary 15 years from now Yeah, get all of that out there and then prosecute as many bad actors here as you can Yeah, and hope to mitigate the damage and then educate You hope to be able to like get people to understand This is the process that happened as the investigative patterns and the like The ways that information was known can be revealed that sort of thing Yeah, you start to understand like these are the things you should look out for online

Right, these are the things you know You should be careful about what you trust because it's very easy to manipulate your opinions Right using algorithms and shit like that because that is a huge part of the story. That's not criminal Yeah, then you take the criminal piece of it and you hopefully put So many of these actors in prison Trump is probably gonna get spared But like you get you get people like Roger Stone to go to prison you get Manafort in prison Hopefully some of these other people I mean Flynn should go to prison

Some of these other folks maybe they flip and become state's evidence state's property Maybe they you know make some deals for themselves and We try and wash this National nightmare out of our hair and then move on in 2020 right hope that that is what we can do but I mean, I don't think it's possible No, as we as we all know as we all know that's what needs to happen Even even if the democrats run the fucking table and win every election They're still giant pussies. So they're never going to actually impeach trump. But what no, I mean, he doesn't need to be impeached

Like I understand that we all want him impeached, but he doesn't need to be He needs to be stopped Yeah, but perhaps perhaps more importantly the republican party needs to be stopped Which would be better served in our interests if he was if trump was just neutralized with an entirely democratic congress Like we want to keep him as president. We just want to make sure that All of the dumb shit that he says which is probably based on At the very least a diminished intellectual capacity But it might be much better optics if he stays as president unable to enact any legislation

Exactly an incompetent who yells all the time in office. Maybe that's a better thing for the democrats than impeach Right, there are there are there are ways around this But I honestly it's like if if Andrew Jackson was never allowed to implement any of the things that he said, right? Like he's allowed to say all that bullshit, but none of it actually happened Like that's that's the better circumstance because Ultimately we kind of want trump as the president In order to make sure that we continue winning elections. I don't think that's not why dumb fuck. That's not why idiot That's not why I don't think I think that that's ugly. I think that's an ugly self-serving

Opportunistic idea. I think that the only good thing about having a president is that there's maybe a teaching opportunity Yeah, like, you know, like as long as he stays in office and is Floundering and so combative and like a child like there is an opportunity for people watching it to learn like Oh, this is that kind of behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can learn like, uh, Oh, we don't like that because here's what I would say. Yeah A lot of european countries are older than us In terms of their existence Uh, that's a I reject that premise

No, I'm just fucking with you. Of course that a lot of stupid a lot of and a lot of them don't necessarily have the same, uh, boundaries because of various world wars and Various kingdoms and stuff like that right rare a lot of them have identities that go much further back than 1776 Absolutely and we're a bit we're a bit childish and we I think that on some level our country Maybe is going through growing pains right now And there's there's one opportunity, uh, in front of us, uh, that is We lean into the combative childishness of trump. Yeah, he's

Yeah, he's giving us the opportunity for and that's a nightmare. That's a that's a disaster Um, and then I hope everyone invades us Right or the other we are due for a regime change or the other opportunities. We have one of these kirk agardian Crises that come with your development like yeah, and we realize like Ah, shit shit Eh That was a mistake and everything comes into sharp focus that like oh that was petulantly acting out and that was childish

It we we need to take everything a much more seriously Yeah, we're before and it felt bad But we need to just we need to get back on the straight and narrow path and rare and maybe we can move forward from that Maybe that's idealistic, but I think that that's a possibility. Well, I mean it's it's interesting because it's not like America hasn't survived a white supremacist senile president before but it's like we've got a lot under our belt It's not the same as now But that's that's the thing we the world hasn't necessarily survived a white nationalist white supremacist

Senile president from america that controls movement exactly. Yeah The world is like like it's unfortunate, but currently The interesting thing is watching the world kind of realize We can't trust america Not even just america the order The international order that we created after world war two right that admittedly a lot of problems with it But at the same time. Yeah, and at the same time this has occurred before like the after world war one Well, I mean no, no, I mean I mean after world war two like in the uh in the 70s and in the 90s

The eu has had a lot of situations where they're on the cusp Of breaking apart like this is a regular thing like europe is fucking nuts. Yeah, but they're not the same as when daddy is drunk You know, yeah, okay. No, that's a great way of putting it. It's not it's not the same as when like and That's even maybe pejorative to our international partners and allies, but like No, I kind of think we're good We've we've created a situation in terms of the international order where the united states has so much power. Yeah, so much like superpower in terms of

Like not control but in terms of like This we're going to we're going to be on the right side of things. Yeah, just a general Hygienomy. Yeah, hegemony. Yeah, and when we indicate we're not going to do that anymore It's terrifying. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. And not because like the world can't do it without us. They can But if we become bad actors The world's fucked right. Well, I mean it's it's kind of built around the concept that has been Uh in place probably for the last 40 years of like America's military is such that

As as far out as anybody wants to go as far out as any war or invasion wants to go If you go too far, America does have all the guns, you know, so many like our guns are You know, oh, oh Russia is building up their military. Oh, China is building up to their military They want to increase it by 10 fold that still puts them at one 1,000th fold of the dumb bullshit that America has. Yeah, so for so long Even even the people who want to act as invaders or who want to Uh, uh annex territory know that there's a point where it's not a world war It's America blowing your ass fucking up, you know

Well, and I think the third world understands that. Yeah And I think that refugees fleeing a lot of those places understand that. Yeah. Well, well, I mean they understand it all too much now and that Is another piece of the puzzle in terms of this anti immigration anti refugee World view. I don't know. I think we're spending way too far if you know, yeah, we're going we're going wild in speculation But I love this sort of conversation. I think that I think I think what we're butting our heads up against is that like both of us are Fucking fatalistic and we think we're doomed. Yeah at the same time. I have a tiny bit of like

Hey, there's a chance And then at the same time like we do a show about alex jones and i'm sitting here with Dead evidence dead to rights that he knew shit that he claims he doesn't know Yeah, I know and I'm still saying that like Um, you know what I think he's still being tricked You know like I so I well, maybe I'm maybe I'm dreamy eyed optimist But right no, no my fatalism isn't born out of america not surviving trump or the white nationalist Like we've it's about climate change like while we're doing this shit

We're fucking up the world. Well, which is why which only creates more refugees Which only creates more nationalist Separatism movements, which only creates more people who are willing to fucking let the world die Which is why in the memo that came from the open societies for soros is uh, They got hacked they were talking about this, uh, refugee influx being the new normal Yeah, and of course it's going to be the new no, absolutely not because of some sort of like Desire for hey, let's fuck up white people with brightening brown people Right, it's just because do you look at the realities of the world and if trends keep going the way they are

There's going to be huge squashes of land that are going to be uninhabitable And people are going to have to be displaced and you better fucking let them in you think about I mean just think about people how people have reacted to Puerto rican refugees Think about they're like, oh, are you a citizen? Yes I live in america think about how our government has dealt with uh the death In, yeah, rica. Yeah, absolutely. No, it was like 10 people

You're like what a what a like 10,000 10 million and don't worry about it. It's you're not mainland. No But that's what you were saying earlier when I said I lived in hawaii. Anyway, I know but that was full circle That was a joke. It was satire. It was satire So I want to leave you with a fun clip Yay, because this episode has been I would say largely evidence that uh, alex jones is a party to treason It's been revelatory more than it has been. Yeah, when I started listening to this I didn't expect to hear the things that I heard

but uh, I didn't also expect to hear this now I have always been a critic of alex jones's uh, uh, childhood literacy Um and listen to this I was like seven years old and I was reading the star wars trilogy and one paperback that my dad You know had gotten episode four five and six So I was reading adult. I think I actually read that same paperback. He loves science fiction I think I talking about I think I actually read that same paper back fine, but hold on. Okay Stuff when I was seven eight years old really good reader

Uh, wasn't good at spelling your math, but I'm been a good reader and I was reading like a you know eighth grade level and I was about five and I sometimes were reading history books and they were just so entertaining And I remember being about 10 years old. My mom's going you're reading nishi. Do you understand that? I'm like not really, but I'm into this she but Did you understand that not really, but I'm into this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he was doing when he was a kid

He was just looking at books so I would say that nichi is not uh, History necessarily Oh Well, I mean the parts of history that he's involved with don't go. Well, not great. No There's a lot of philosophy in there. Certainly a lot of a lot of a lot of ideas

Yeah, and if you're somebody who's into that I'm not into you Also, I could let that go also if you're a kid and you're like, I don't understand this, but I'm into it So, um, so I'm eight years old and I'm reading nichi now Obviously that makes me both an interesting person and I think I should be murdered like that's that's what you say to me if you're an eight-year-old who This just furthers my argument that I've been making this entire goddamn time that alex was reading books that he didn't understand Yeah, and I was now claiming he understood them. He just said he didn't fucking understand them at 10

I wonder if he understood the star wars trilogy. Probably not. Yeah, I'll be out He plays the imperial march all the time on his show. Yeah, that's a good point. That's not great That's a good point. But also I'll say that when I was like eight nine years old I read a bunch of tin tin that my dad had and I didn't understand how fucking racist that shit was Ridiculous. I grew up and I'm like, I like the stories, but holy shit, right? Holy shit. This is some of the most racist shit. I've ever seen in my life. Oh, yeah. This is crazy I don't understand this in the house. I don't understand how everybody who watched song of the south as a child Isn't like wandering around going like what the fuck was the world like

It's crazy. I watched that when I was a child. I'd forgotten about it and then in college. I watched it with a young lady Uh, and I was like Oh, dear god. Yeah. Oh dear god. Oh, oh, oh, oh, no This is almost as racist as a A fucking chitty-chitty bang bang like it's crazy. Also the child catcher not great the child catcher Oh, yeah, that's right. Um, so anyway Well, we come away with I think is no concrete Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I just made this

it's it's it's The problem that we run into is the limits of our Well, when I say our I mean you're uh investigative abilities in so far as we have I think the most circumstantial evidence that you could ever need to convict somebody of committing treason

But we don't have that like eye witness like we don't have that Uh, a dna print. You know what I'm saying his own, uh, eye witness Well, yeah, but if we we couldn't actually get him to I mean, I suppose if he testified he'd just If we could just cross and just be like, hey, why did you say this see again? So We moved to austin become lawyers become lawyers past the bar or spend four years as public defenders that shows that we care about the yeah, or Yeah, his ex-wife is now trying to sue him in unplug info wars, which I think is a stupid idea. What but if we get Called as material witnesses

But you know what even if you're a witness you can't make alex answer something You can just bring things up This isn't gonna work. No, no, no, we gotta do more planning on this. Yeah. Look. Here's the fucking deal Um alex new stuff alex 100 knows. He knows way more You look at the fucking date. You look at the timeline. You look at all this. It's just it's dead to rights It's nonsense I I love this because this to me And I know I said this earlier, but this is the reason why his show sucks now

He knows people are listening and he knows he committed crimes. Yeah, so he just can't do the same things So what he does is he fills time with just screaming about dumb shit Saying the same things he did back before that are less interesting They could go into the fucking chimera stuff much deeper now and that'd be fun Yeah, but then he has people like mike rotondo on and pretends that like oh, this is fun You know, we're gonna you're gonna save you or whatever or scream about those wounds You know like he does that stuff because that's what is okay. What's not okay is recognizing that dude

You are in the barrel. You don't know it You do know it, but you might not be aware of it alex Your time is coming I you know what I feel like this is I I feel like you're wrong Based on like the meg and kelly interview situation where alex Knew no that he said some shit where he should have been dead to rights And then whenever it actually came out there was fucking nothing on it No, like he's the same thing. No because he understood how meg and kelly's show works

They're not going to play the clip where he says this was all fake right They were just going to try and make him feel bad by playing the family members and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And he has a steely upper lip about that. He doesn't he doesn't give a shit. He's a psychopath Yeah, exactly. He doesn't give a shit about that He's just going to say like I want to apologize to them for what the media has said about me I want to make it right. I want look everyone lies about me Yeah, he knows that meg and kelly's show isn't going to dip into like, okay. Well, here's what you did say Comment now

Beyond that because here's what happens when you do that alex will storm out and he won't sign the release Fair enough he didn't sign the release beforehand. He's not a fucking idiot Yeah The way that he was acting about the way that he was afraid Kind of that seemed genuine to me It suggests to me that he signed it beforehand No, like he wouldn't have been afraid if he knew if he had final cut

Alex does not have any fear. He didn't have final cut But he didn't have any like the reason he was afraid or rights of approval or whatever The reason that he's not afraid is because he's not a journalist right He's an entertainer He pretends that he understands how these shows are made and stuff like that But he doesn't really understand it So he he knows that for hours that he probably was on a hot mic

Right, probably said some stupid shit that could be used against. Oh, he said the n word 45 times. No, that's ted new jen But like there like he he knows that he probably like off camera had like He's seen the jinx and is like, well, I probably said something that really was fucked up and they could use that against me Something like that while he's while he's peeing. He was like, oh, I committed treason. How did they guess? I don't know. That's what he's afraid of on some level not realizing that this is a Fucking sacchariney sweet sunday night show Yeah, all they want to do is make him look bad about sandy hook But not too bad. They want to they want to make him look like he was wrong

And that is something that is indicative of a larger issue if he storms off but not like him ruin their fucking show Yeah, absolutely. It ruined the entire proceeding. Yeah, the whole show was about him Squirming right it was not about him being caught as was the pre show that he did it was about him squirming It works for both of them. Anyway, I don't know Let's end this they're on cahoots And some what in some way. Yes. Yeah. No, no, absolutely not like they're in concert with each other like a quid pro quo They all have similar goals. They all kind of know what it is. They're going for a man. They're even making kelly Yeah, oh, well, have you seen her daytime talk show? Do you see her interview putin? Oh, it was brutal

It was brutal I don't know. I don't know how it is. We're supposed to combat this In a way that doesn't involve like actually putting propagandists in jail Like if propagandists never experiences any consequences for their actions Then it's never going to stop Because propaganda is only going to get more sophisticated and it has yeah, it's become information warfare or info wars Ah

But I still think I still think most of it falls under the heading of free speech It's it's everyone's responsibility. Yeah, you know, I don't know everyone's responsibility to be smart and Like because it's not a crime to lie except in the situations where you're lying about a building burning down Right or something like that. They're they're Look dude look propaganda should be illegal But then you're going to open up the can of worms of like what is propaganda? Right, but then that definition but that's ultimately that's ultimately a slippery soap argument

No, I it's not it's a logistics argument It's it's what like where where at what point do you draw the line? That's not the same as a slippery slope The slippery slope would be like I say this is illegal now. This is now this is now this is but that's the That's the argument against what you're saying is that If we are going to start making laws about propaganda Then it matters who is in control of how those laws are prosecuted Like with trump and illegal immigration or or well, you know, all all of these fucking people

Well, it's the conversation we have with the patriot act like this is putting the power Who knows who's going to be president right and obama again Deported a more than gw did you know, it's it's like regardless of who's in power It does matter about how they exercise that power of prosecution. I agree So I so I don't know it's a it's a slippery slope argument in in the way that Who the fuck knows if an autocrat is going to become president? That's not a slippery slope argument That is a concern That's not there are there is a difference between fair enough. I accept that no

That's a voicing of a concern of what what could be possible in the future. That's different than slippery slope That's like that's like I do this and then right before you know it x Well, but at the same time the idea of like the idea of like we make this legal That means that in the future The other person can do this because it's legal. That's not a slippery slope. That's just recognizing the future exists But that's also the creation of ice and the way that we all assumed that obama A lot of people were against it from the jump right and obama was against it from the jump and then he fucking allowed it to go hog wild

And then and then trump gets in power and all of a sudden that hog wild that obama allowed We didn't even know could get worse But it's I mean that's bullshit to some extent because like I think that you even is like Just as a person who was out and about uh, living my life I knew that ice was doing some really fucked up stuff even before the election. Yeah, um, even in chicago Yeah, like they there were um I would go to open mics and I would hear from people that like uh, there were just like Traps set up. Yeah that they were just trying to get any immigrants legal or illegal jaded up

Right, right, and they're like separated right and that that stuff was going on. I quit doing stand-up two years ago Yeah, it's like they were doing that Well in the past Anyway, who gives a shit Not who gives a shit about that but like we we got to end this no and and all i'm saying is that in chicago the There have been a bunch of murders recently to us immigration and customers Enforcement is at 101 west congress parkway chicago, illinois if you feel like uh protesting them Feel free to show up at any point also. Let's be fucking clear about this in the last like week and a half or so there's been

Some murders uh by the police here in chicago. Oh, yeah Yeah, I mean there always are but these ones are are worse the chicago police department is a white supremacist Organization that is willing to murder We have black sites where people are tortured. What was that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no the the chicago police department is something that should be fucking Abolished and replaced with I don't know community policing or something like that, but yeah We're we're overwhelmed by a white supremacist or terrorist organization. Good times. Yay Jordan, uh, yes, I need to get out of here. Our website is knowledge fight doc

It is if you wanted to follow us on twitter add dollars for right We're on facebook. Absolutely. You can go to itunes. You could download an episode You could share an episode. Please you could leave a room. I would say if you've made it this far Please share this episode because I think that the evidence we've uncovered here I think a lot of people need to hear maybe not maybe not some of our ramblings, but the the the stuff where alex is very clearly He has knowledge in advance. Yeah, no, this is this is probably it's damning I not incontrovertible, but goddamn close to It's proof that alex jones was aware of treason and he needs to be asked way more very specific questions

Absolutely. So now we've come to the end of this and it is your turn dickweed Oh Why do I have to be called a dickweed? I don't know. I just don't want I I don't like doing it So I'm I'm telling you something right now. I'm thrilled to make you the The thing that bothers me the most is that uh, or at least you fucking say neil shawn again At least for today. All right. Uh, is that the u.s. ambassador to england? Absolutely lobbied the government to try and get tommy Fucking robinson

released from prison So if I have anybody who should go fuck themselves, I would say 70% of the state department go fuck yourself We can't end on that that didn't come up in the show. Oh, okay Bobby Robinson did come up in the show, but the the 70% of the state department didn't you have to choose someone else I understand and I agree with you. All right, but the whole bit So who came up in the show, but this has been a show entirely about alex That's not true tons of other people have come up. Well, I mean obviously the most important person the fancy boy

That needs to go fuck himself the styler and profiler in chief that will almost certainly Wind up getting fucked by himself Go fuck yourself roger stone Andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you