Knowledge Fight - #182: Pay-To-Play Satan Fears

Episode Date: July 18, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about an episode of The Jim Bakker show that he found that demonstrates the very overt correlations between the world of religious con-men and political con-men like Alex Jones, and how many who preach about the "end times" really just yearn for a Christian theocracy.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan up Jordan. We're a couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan Dan sir Uh, were we not doing this bit anymore? No, I feel like we quit this bit. No, uh, how do we explain the podcast now? Someone we're asking us what a bit that is run its courses I would tell them they'd be us rambling around a bunch and then Getting to the point that I know a lot about Alex Jones and I know less than you about Alex Jones. Correct. There we go

Um, so now we're doing it. Here we are in the in the world. I don't know how to start this episode Oh boy, I just feel weird. I ate I ate some McDonald's just a minute ago and it's making me feel. Oh, yeah No, that's very strange. That's a terrible idea. I was running late getting home from uh from an appointment To do this show and I needed some food because I was in a rush and I didn't have anything to cook in the house I was feeling weak from not eating and then I go get this uh McDonald's and I feel worse Yeah, no, that was a terrible. I feel destroyed. I don't know. I don't know how to get the ball Moving in the right direction. Yeah trying to say moving and rolling at the same time. You gotta you gotta sweat it out We gotta we gotta get you to do some wind sprints. You gotta get that you gotta get that uh salt out of your belly

That's why I haven't even eaten yet today. I'm always that's why I'm hungry for For the good show Dan indeed. Well, I hope I can provide that for you My fingers are crossed that that will be the end result of this Um greasy mcdonald's covered fingers are crossed something i'm less concerned about being great as one of our new donors Wonderful not a new donor per se someone is taking their donation bumped it up a little bit. Oh, shit We appreciate it so much. Uh, so jason c. Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat I'm a policy wonk Someone someone sotomite sent me a bucket of poop daddy shark

Jar Jar banks has a caribbean black action He's a loser little little titty, baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce jesus christ Thank you so much jason. Thank you very much jason If you would like to support the show yourself you can do that by going to our website knowledge fight.com and click The support the show button And it's great. We haven't heard uh, we haven't heard a technocrat level clip in a long time Been a lot of wonks. It's been a while. We've had some we've had some great wonks, but the technocrat man That is hot nice to have it make a resurgence. Yeah. Um, so during our last episode we talked about

Yeah hard to distill exactly what that was of uh, you know, uh, almost clear evidence of Um advanced notice on alex jones' part. Yeah, I know it's pretty funny, right pretty clear notice or You know indications that roger stone knows a lot more than he's uh being forthright about it was great timing especially since immediately after that we got the single greatest example of uh, president being like These guys are great. He don't even worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Good stuff Yeah, the wrong word on the page is the wrong word just didn't met the would be wouldn't be it's a mistake anybody could make Very easy to make right right. All right. Don't be the grammar police come down. Oh, yeah. That's rude. Yeah, that's rude That's that's classic. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. No, no, no

He's he's probably committed a bunch of crimes. The world is not fun. Yeah Um, and so today I thought what we would do is take a little diversion down to one of our favorite side paths and unfortunately, it's not project Camelot because Carrie uh sweary carry Cassidy was just recently in uh, london, I believe or in england indicted for meeting uh, What tommy robinson or something that would be fucked up that would be fucked up. Um, no, she uh, she was doing her awake and aware conference Uh, which okay, no one needs to know this but if you knew it, you'd know that that was just a conference of weirdos Uh, that may or may not be lying about being in the secret space program or even awake Here's the fun part

On our last episode with project Camelot. We talked about how eddie page was clearly a racist alien. Oh, yeah, absolutely guess what? He showed up with a waking aware conference. What she confronted him about his racism on air and he's like, yeah But you know what you know what? Reality is sometimes racist sometimes realities racist and then a week later. She has him on her conference Perfect perfect nothing matters. Nothing means anything So I listened to a bit of that and I was like god damn it eddie page. This is so boring So I just decided now we're not gonna do that but thankfully I found something very interesting in the world of jim baker

Uh, that deserves going over so today. We're taking a little trip down to pleasant valley or whatever the fuck He calls his uh, his commune down in the ozarks. Sure. Sure. Uh, and we we start the show That's something very big Welcome to the jim baker show coming to you from the village of morningside snuggled in the beautiful ozark mountains Today jim's very special is the founder and president of what you get fired and host of the television broadcast End of the age dr. Urban baxter I'm your co-host ricky baker and now here the host of the jim baker show and my parents jim and lori bakers Thank you ricky baker. Yeah, what they all take shifts

What is this shit? Yeah, so why you they're all there? Why are you coming down on tammy sue baker not being there? This is the the brothers turn What are you talking about? No, that blew my mind. How old are these people? Uh, they're adults They're adults hard to say with these evangelical christians That's a good point because I could put jim baker at 60 as well as I could put him at 85 He could be a 104. There's a there's a lot of wiggle room there. Yeah, absolutely Um, so the uh, the fun the fun thing there. I thought tammy sue did a better job I don't want to start any kind of sibling rivalry or anything like that. Tammy sue crushed it

She had a little more charisma. I would say she had some verb. She had some uh, she had some fire behind her Yeah, um, I just like how uh, jim bakers response is thank you ricky baker Like he says his kids. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That's fucked up. Well, they don't really have a relationship very unfamiliar How could you have a relationship with jim baker? It would be tough. It would be tough It's it has to be so transactional like everything that they do for jim has to be like a Dad play catch with me. How's this gonna help me sell buckets? Right, right, right? It's gonna cost you one year's worth of food to get one game's worth of catch very very wild stuff So what do you know about irvin baxter? I know that if you are an actual doctor, you should not be anywhere near this show

I've got some thoughts about him being a doctor. Yes, and they are all no Well, um, I mean, I don't know how much I want to give away just right off the top But I will say that irvin baxter has no formal education That usually that usually hurts your chances of being a real doctor from an article about him in the dallas observer He's largely self-taught. He finished high school, but never attended college or seminary But since age 20 or so he's been developing and preaching his particular version of the end times In which this massive war will kill a third of humanity and jesus christ will return to whisk his followers heavenward After vanquishing the antichrist

So did he get a did he get a phd in that? I think he's write a few books I think it is is he like a What's a doctor of theology like there are plenty of different ways to go down to get the doctor Do the doctor group path you can do the doctor group He should just mail sri lanka his plans for the end times and then they'd send him a diploma But you know like being a doctor of theology is like a that's like you have to go to school for years for that I know that's what i'm saying granted. You could just get it from like a Like a diploma mill. Well, I didn't do enough. Let's let's face it

If you believe in this shit, you but you're every mill is a diploma. I didn't do I didn't do enough Like I didn't do a background check on this guy or anything But I will say that this article I bet there's some domestic abuse in there Hey, man, don't don't don't say such things. You're just guessing I'm just saying these guys had these guys have a pattern of behavior. That's all I'm saying He's got a pattern of behavior, but I'm not sure that's what it is. Okay. He definitely fits a very important pattern Spoiler alert. He's a con man, but also there's other things that are are like, oh man spoiler alert It's eddie page in a mess. It might as well be no, I don't know if this guy's racist at least he controls it

Well, he's there. He's there. Um, so like I said, he is a uh, he's an end times guy Yeah, so let's uh, let's just jump in the two of them should hit it off famously We are in the end time. Yes. Is that right? Dr. Baxter not a doctor Say we're Maybe the end time or the end time is coming. The end time has arrived We are in the middle of it right now. Oh, let's let's thank god. It's wait. That's just what jim said Go through the end times to get to the wrap. Let's say whoa all the great stuff that's coming. It's excitable

And we're there, right? We are there. Wow You you you know what you know that you know and you know and you don't get changed very often, right? Is that how we became a doctor? We find out. Well, that's a little different slant, but when you know from the word You know when you base what you're teaching on the bible, you know, it's right fair I I'm gonna pause you right there. Uh-huh. Uh, I I'm in to use your Now famous catchphrase I reject your premise, sir That's uh, well, I mean the first thing we could take away beyond your rejection of premise is they these are both two post-trib rapture guys

Yeah, very clearly from what they're saying. Oh, yeah If they weren't then they would have to then admit that they should have been raptured and weren't and are now Oh, that would be a possibility or there's mid-trib rapture and we just haven't gotten to the halfway point yet Sure, people who believe that sure. There's mid-trab. So, um, also here again This is from that article in the Dallas Observer. Uh, it's c This is me editorializing before I get to the quote. Okay seems like this guy's a little nutty Okay, quote when he was 19 He said he heard a sermon that left him with such a hunger for knowledge that he read the book of revelation 19 times in 30 days

He quit his job as an internal auditor to become an evangel evangelist He studied and prayed all day and preached at night delivering a sermon almost daily for eight years He said he was able to identify three modern nations represented by biblical beasts in the book of daniel England was the lion the united states the eagle and russia the bear But the fourth eluded him for a time quote. I woke up one monday morning and god said go buy a newspaper Mr. Back's Hold on He's evangelical travels found him in a small town in louisiana and a paper wasn't easy to find

But when he read the headline sure, but when he read the headline, he knew he had solved the mystery quote on the front page It said germany sells leopard tanks to the netherlands Germany was the leopard Where where is he getting this from? He's making it up. I mean just like I don't recall the bible I don't recall the book of daniel specifically pointing out four beasts lions Bears, oh my eagles and then leopards. That's a real odd one Especially especially since i'm gonna go by just the geography. I know and how biology works

uh In the book of daniel, they would not have had any idea what a leopard was probably not but also Interesting that germany is not widely associated with leopards It is just one non sequitur that he saw in a newspaper headline So if this is the case then the writer of the book of daniel would have had to know that one day Uh, I almost called him eddie page One day urban baxter would be proselytizing in a small town in louisiana and see a headline that Involves germany and leopards and prophesied that and put it into the canonical bible dan

Dan it's possible. Did you not hear what jim just said? When you know, you know that you know that you know and when that when when you're basing your teachers on the bible which clearly he is And that is Correct now. Mm-hmm daniel Uh prophesied about leopard tanks sure must that makes sense. You must have Um, so but he when he's saying you know, you know, you know, and you know, you know, you know when you know What what jim is saying there is like you don't change your predictions much

And it's fun because urban baxter fancies himself a bit of a profit. Uh, of course in many ways No, that I don't think so. I don't think he's specifically using that to describe urban baxter Yes, he is that is no that is a an evangelical like bulwark No, I understand that everybody that believes this bullshit always comes down to if you start to confront them with like reality I've had my mom and my dad both say, you know, the the lord says, you know When you know when you know, I understand that, you know, but he's also talking about baxter's predictions In that context, so he's using that and also bridging it over to his predictions. Yes. Yeah, i'm just saying that it's not specific And it's not like he invented it into use now

But I want to talk about baxter's predictions. Okay, so let's hear some good ones This is from an article in the religion news blog quote leopards everywhere Urban baxter took a deep breath and surveyed the more than 2,500 faithful then citing biblical text and current events He voiced a dire prediction a raging war will soon incinerate a third of the world's population To quote two billion people will die said mr. Baxter who's fiery oration sunday at garland connected A homeland security measure the real id act with satan's plan to enslave humanity quote We have either just entered or we are just before the beginning of the seven-year period that will end in armageddon. He said This article came out

In 2006 we have either just entered it is or we're in the middle But it could be over The end times that article came out 12 years ago I am going to give you a very specific prediction that it could be and is Anytime that it is and when you know you know when you know you know that you know So at that sermon that he was giving in garland in texas uh baxter complained that the government was collecting data on citizens But uh, uh, then at the same time he was trying to give people to fill out the contact cards He left on their seats. He explained that away by saying quote

I mean if we find out the rapture is gonna happen in three days, wouldn't you like us to send you a letter? Good good one that That's pretty smooth. I'm actually gonna go with that surprisingly reasonable. That's pretty smooth I think I would like a letter. I would prefer an email but of course Because but god only does snail mail because these guys are always con men and they don't stop conning It should be pointed out that the contact information cards. He was asking people to fill out We're also subscription cards to his magazine

This guy's good How much I think it's one of those like we get you for free and then then you then you got a recurring bill or something So, um, it's weird that it's a uh 30 dollar a month subscription for a four page magazine So he's just I think it's bi-monthly. So he's a traveling itinerant preacher. I don't think anymore Okay, I think he's too old for that shit right but but back in these days. He is just randomly going around Who gets out of town before you realize what's happened, right? He's selling monorails. Yes. That's what he's doing So I want to go a little bit further uh in the past and talk about what he uh had to say about the iraq war His predictions quote. This is from an article in the washington post leopards everywhere

Quote backster a lifelong student of old and new testament prophecies said casualties will be tremendous Not only of combatants in iraq but people in neighboring countries hit by retaliatory missiles of mass destruction And americans who fall victim to terrorists armed with portable nuclear weapons in other and other countries will take the opportunity to pursue Their own interests china trying to retake taiwan or india making an all-out assault on kajmir leading to world war three He said the result back to backster concludes could be nuclear holocaust that takes the lives of two billion people The one third of mankind stated in revelation. He's constantly trying to work that one third It's in the book and no, yeah, it's in the book. You got to put you got to put it in there You can't say that he's wrong

Also, that is not technically a third. So I don't think I don't think I count it that article from was from 2003 so far He is incorrect Also in his march april 2013 end time magazine Backster reported that quote iran's nuclear bomb program is complete citing a quote source in the revolutionary guards intelligence unit I don't think Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Hold on. Yeah, how did he get a hold of this source? I need to know that I don't know I need I need way more information about that claim

I unfortunately can't provide that for you. I was traveling around Preaching the lord's word telling people about the end times as the bible tells me to do And I woke up one morning and god said to me fly to Tehran see what happens So I did and I bought a newspaper first off leopards lot of leopards The second I met a member of the uh royal uh revolutionary guard and we just got to talk and we hit it off I explained to him how the end times work and he was like dude You have no idea how great the end times is going to be we're going to start it Perfect. I have two two possible options one. He's making it up. Yes. It's the most likely most likely or he's citing

Without citing some sort of republican Real crazy right wing. Yeah, something like that. That's my guess and they're making it up and he is poorly reporting it So but anyway, look, dude, I mean so his predictions aren't good We can we can say that with just a cursory glance at some of his history, right? We can see that yes, his prediction doesn't change, but it changes You know like it's always a third of humanity Yeah, but if the context seems to change and he's wrong about almost everything you got to update it

You can't do the same material for more than three years if you're going to be an itinerant preacher He's really just changing the setup though the punchline is the same. Well, yeah, but the setup is a bad showmanship It's still okay. So, um, you might be thinking that he's calling The this is going to be the end of the world because he says end times Yeah, but you'd be wrong in that and this is actually I think a really important Reveal that they kind of tip their hand here a little bit. Yeah, doesn't it start the thousand year reign of God and so on and so forth And we can discuss that on the other end of this clip because I think they make it clear what they're interested in

Much more in this What is in time industry? Well, a lot of people think in time. When's the world going to end? I have people when I they ask me What do you do? I say, well, I'm the founder and president of in time ministries They back up three steps and say when's the world going And I said no, it's not that No, they say in time

We do not mean the end of the world because there's another thousand years left according to scripture called it We mean the end of the time of human government And the beginning of the kingdom of god because the bible is explicit That all the present governments are coming down. The bible says in daniel Seven nine. I beheld to the thrones were cast down And the ancient days did sit before long good politicians bad politicians We're going to get rid of them all and jesus christ is going to be crowned king of kings and lord

Blurg I mean what all the time on all they're talking about is a theocracy come on guys That's really all they're talking about. Come on guys. Don't be like. Yeah We come on. Yeah, what are you doing? That's hacky But like it is it is important to point this out because like the idea of this thousand-year reign of christ on earth They're they're fine with starting that without christ showing up. Oh, yeah, what i'm saying Well, he's a isn't he in all of us though. Absolutely. That's the only way you know So if if you want a thousand-year reign of christ, you have to have the people

With whom christ is inside it's within all of us and then you kill the rest And that's how the end times works or you subordinate the rest And who no no no god would never allow that they have a little bit of a crusade action He's a little bit more of a Straight-up murder town guy in the in the book of revelations at least and the old testament And everywhere that's not jesus saying please don't murder people or jesus is like hey guys be cool Hey, quit it. Hey cut it out. I I think that's I think that's kind of interesting. You know, I think that's I don't know. I I don't really think I never really thought about it too much what the end times as a

Like a convenient excuse for a theocracy. Yeah Yeah, I'd never really considered it until I heard him phrase it that way Yeah, because I know that this guy's a con man I know that I and you know what maybe that's a failing on my part that I don't consider like by default religious Uh messaging as like an attempt at conning. Yeah when not all of it is but a lot of it is And when you hear these very obvious con people expressing these sorts of ideas It brings into sharp focus. They're like like I said, I think I can't put it better than to say They're fine starting without god. Yeah, they're fine starting without

Actual jesus appearing they don't need that part. They'll they'll make they'll make late He would ruin it It would hurt Jesus would ruin the theocracy that they are interested in I think I think you'd have trouble selling those buckets I don't think jesus would be thrilled with them buckets. Uh, I think you'd be really uh offended by the codification The commodification of uh, this sort of ministry. Yeah, traditionally. He was bummed by that. Yeah So speaking of which, you know what before you continue and I'm sorry for It's gonna be smooth transition buddy again. I'm so sorry

The one the one thing that I really hear now that I I haven't for a while is like The because most people when they're doing the end times ministry don't do the let the second part the thousand year reign of christ Right, uh, and I think that's mainly because now we know how long time is And that's not that long You know, it's a while like back then no, it is a while But back then a thousand years is all of the time that they're aware of sure and now we're like Earth is three billion years old a thousand years is not that long And even if you want to go with the the the earth being only six thousand years old

A thousand years is still not that long. You can still what's gonna happen after the thousand years is over You could still get a bit done I don't know you could get some done, but i'm just saying yeah God is only fine with a sixth of the the length of time that the the planet that the people have been around I think what you're putting your finger on and that's something that's interesting is the human aspect of these supposedly divinely inspired ideas Yeah, the limits of their imagination at the time anthropology and history to help

but In the present day, we don't worry about those things. We don't we sell We sell ships sell buckets. So give me that bucket of jesus lord instead of buckets. We get another commercial for those water bottles Now when you fly on an airplane Do not drink the water. No good call. Don't go into the bathroom and turn on that fire. In fact, it's a sign right there They said do not drink though. That's right. The water is not drinkable. They provide water. This is the life saver bottle And it's the sail is going off on so real quick We'll get into the second part of this commercial

But it's really fascinating that their sales pitch is basically if you find yourself on a plane this bottle is going to be helpful It's it's great Fine You know fine anywhere else. You can buy a breaks down immediately. You can buy a bottle of water at the airport for a couple bucks Nope. No, you need this $80 bottle of water. Yes, this bottle with a filter It only works in high altitudes. Yeah, that's the problem No, because you know, he uh, he used it on river water. He was flying at the time though He could have been flying over the river

Exactly gotten his long arm down like mr. Fantastic and scooped up. Um, so anyway We're having three of these for just my birthday. Uh, the price is amazing three for 78 dollars plus Free shipping. I mean, oh Oh, you're it's a 205 dollar value. That's right for 78 dollars And that's my birthday special special But I don't get any of that that is all goes to keep this ministry on the air But this is the king of all bottles You can take water out of a mud puddle and filter it and drink it

We drank water out of the mississippi when it was flooding over you did out of this bottle He's obsessed with this river water loves that he goes to every river and drinks out of it with this water bottle Drink out of the river. So it's jim bakers birthday special, but don't worry. He's not getting any of it Go fuck yourself Goal To sell those have a manufacturer price of 205 dollars for three water bottles The sheer Fucking gall of it almost makes me want to buy one just like the latency of that scam is so

Uh bald-faced. It's hard to imagine me not being like listen. You got me on this one. I love it I love it. Good call. I love obscenely overpriced dumb shit. Sure. Yeah, that you can't beat that kind of savings I mean 205 bucks for 70. What are you gonna do? I don't know So one of the things you should know is much like all of these sort of very into the end times doomsday folk Um baxter is super pro israel. He's real into israel Um, and of course is very celebratory of trump Changing the the embassy recognizing the embers embassy in jerusalem

Um, and so they talk about it here. Uh, and then I just have a weird thought That occurred to me while I was listening to this episode that we'll discuss on the other end of this clip The big thing happened on december the 6th. I'm sure you know what i'm referring to That's when dylan trump decided he was going to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel And my sister right there Is going to be there Can you believe it? My sister who's so quiet is Doesn't run around the world

She's going to israel and they're going to literally be there on the 7th anniversary And be there when they open up the embassy super. Is that insane? They said it can't be done No, I didn't I think something speedy done was going to do it A lot of people have said they were going to do it. Yeah, they get into that Reagan said he was going to do it they get into that here in a little bit But uh, just the thought that I have two thoughts first jim baker's sister hasn't stopped talking to him, which is crazy Yeah, I know right that kind of familial bond. I have no idea what that's like transaction Everything is transactional. It's crazy to me like when you have somebody who has had such a career of like

manipulation and lie based crimes That like you still are like, yeah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to hang out at morning view I'm gonna I'm gonna still associate with him. I mean, you gotta you gotta at some point say that scamming scammers don't exist in a Vacuum, you know, that's divine. Uh, I love that's that is unconditional love I admire on one level. Is it a promise of a lot of buckets of food when the end times come? That could be it too What I admire a little bit less is the knowledge that uh, she was there when snipers were shooting guys people on the The palestinian. Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah

Her her going down there for a nice, uh, you know, maybe cracking a champagne bottle on the embassy Which is what they're sort of presenting this as she was actually there when uh, the murders were continuing The devil went down to israel looking for a palestine to kill I thought you were gonna weave buckets in there. So no no that was the best I could do so short notice There are a lot of there's a lot of ideas about You know the exact nature of the israeli palestinian conflict And that's something that people who are much smarter than us can do a much better job of But I will tell you we could do a better job than irving bekster. Okay

At the dedication of the first temple God said I will put my name in Jerusalem And that's the reason there's been more wars followed with that city than any other city on earth Because satan heard god say that said well, really you want your name there? Yes, where I want mine. So the wars began and the final war armageddon so I don't

the the big issue that I have there is I don't like the idea of like just Petulant siblings as god and the devil like I really don't I don't I'm not a fan of that The idea that like you have a ball and your brother wants it. Yeah, so you fight. Yeah, I don't Yeah, that's who I want to be the creator of the universe tan. I'm not into it. Yeah, absolutely. I find it also to be a profound

Failing an intellectual like level. I don't understand people like people like this would be like making that argument With a straight face, you know like oh, of course Jesus wanted to put his name here And the devil is like I want my name there. Yeah, then therefore thousands of years of war and people dying all over the place I don't I buy it. I find that to be Stupid you can you can correct me if I'm wrong here But what I do appreciate about this that is very different from Greek theology Is with the the pantheon that the Greeks had there was also like especially when you read The iliad and the like there's a lot of shame for the gods that he has where he's like

These fucking asshole gods Keep pulling this shit. They're so human. Yeah, exactly. That was part of the idea of the Greek myth Ethological structure and these guys are the exact opposite They create really really human gods and then they're like look at how great these guys are You know like they create these two petulant pissy ass little brothers. I preferred the Greek version Yeah, I know me too Because there was a lot more uh turning into a swan and fucking people back then sure Lido

That's what that boss gag song was about really the Lido shuffle was about Lida different names Sound very close So, um I like it whenever your uh Knowledge of certain songs and your knowledge of Greek theology line up in a perfect way and and the only thing I can say just off the only thing I can say is that's the sign of the end times down Oh, man, there's this great. What's the name of that band? There's this horn rock band. I think they're called cronus That's really good. They have like oh man. I gotta find that. Okay. I'm talking out of my ass. There you go

It's good stuff though. Look up cronus anyway Speaking of good stuff I earlier said very recently that uh, I think that urban backster is a dumb dumb and he's presenting something very stupid Uh, but this clip this next clip might uh, you know, it it it's indicative that he has some kind of knowledge that we don't have And he's very confident about it. Okay You know, Jim, I go to Israel twice a year and

Christmas Easter, I keep saying I won't do this but I do it every time. I'm standing in the Mount of Olives And it's like I know the Lord's gonna come and land there. Right. I'm always looking around saying, okay. Jesus, where are we gonna land? I love reserving my spot. But uh, yeah, yeah Anyway, it's that's where the Lord's coming back to and something will be very long It's not going to be very long people. We're in the last stage. We really are. Yes, we are I mean, you just heard so much junk over the years and I mean a lot of it was junk Just people surmising this and that and everything from I only bring people here that are teaching you what the bible says

and This week you don't want to miss a day, but if you want to stay on the air, I have to pay the bills Yes boom boom My guest knows where Jesus is coming back and he's been staking it out for uh, get some like nice nice, uh, You know, uh festival seating get a get a nice blanket down. Maybe you have a brunch. Oh, yeah You have a little uh, little picnic. No, I don't know. It's like the it's like the pit in an outdoor show

You gotta it's that's general admission. You got to be in there quick. Otherwise, you're gonna be in the back Yeah, absolutely Then boom, I had pivot on your oh man. That was alex jones level right there That was the end of the world is happening And hey guys in order for us to continue scaring you about the end of the world Right, you're gonna have to give us your money in order to continue this feedback cycle that we've trapped you in Uh, we need your money Um, how many that's only one thing that's very similar to alex jones that we're gonna experience right but uh,

How many thousands of years of the end times are happening? Now are christians gonna accept before they're like maybe the end times aren't happening right now It seems infinite. It does kind of seem infinite right even in the just the time There's the years that i've been an adult uh and aware of stuff, you know, like I we've gone through this dance So many times over and over again the book of revelations was like The end times is gonna happen in like a week, right, you know, like everybody for Thousands of years has said we are living through the end times But some of that might just have to do with like a lot of these

these profits and speculators and con men Being unwilling or unable to wrestle with metaphor and context like historical context and these books were written Like they'll bring together books that were written hundreds of years apart Uh in history and be like well, this is clearly talking about the same No, the the socio-political climate was different. This is a you know, there's It's it's lunacy. Well one day god told him to turn his tv on to national geographic Right and he saw a hawk and as we all know hawks are representative of iran That's everybody knows that those two are inextricably linked together sure and that hawk that hawk is just coming

for our national basketball teams That's what's going down So the end times the end times are here dan Oh, I feel it we are either in the beginning or the middle or maybe just past it or maybe it's a ways off But look when you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know um, so that That last clip was a pretty harsh ad pivot But nothing could have like prepared me for

Jim baker accidentally saying something that I think is profound on air about his money stuff Just shortly after okay, and I think this also relates to alex jones I have to pay the bills. You say oh You're on all these tv stations and network that don't they just give you that time No No Some cost me 17 thousand dollars for one hour And so I have to pay millions of dollars

But we do it I don't even know we've been back on tv for about 15 years and I've stayed on every day. Can you believe that? It's a miracle People prophesied over me that capitalism again that I would never be on tv again. Don't listen to false prophets You know how you know a prophet is a prophet, you know Their prophecies come true And we make prophets The idea that like people said I'd never be back on air is like yeah, but you're do you're paying for brokered programming

You're paying to be on of course anybody could be on air if they pay for it This is very different than the idea of like I'm on all these stations and stuff like that But also I don't think alex jones is nearly um as Guilty of that, but I think some of his time slots are probably brokered programming on radio stations. Yeah, but I mean that's essentially That's essentially buying an ad, you know like that's all that really like buying all the yeah, well exactly That's that's what he's doing which is again the right wing talk radio structure Yeah, this is what like freedom works and americans for prosperity Uh and the heritage foundation did to boost the careers of like a rush limbaugh of shan hannity

And uh glenn beck in particular mark levin all of these people they would do Embedded commercials and stuff like that for the heritage foundation They'd always talk about how positive their their information that was coming out was and it was because they were buying all their ad space They were bolstering them they were buying their books in bulk to make it look like they were bestsellers This is the scam that goes on. It's what it's in clear media is built upon This is the next level of the media scam. This is the scam behind the scam Like he jim baker is on air scamming grannies Uh to sell them water bottles and shit like that that they'll never need

Uh, they're selling unless they go to the rivers selling these food buckets and stuff like that That's the consumer level scam and then the business scam behind it Which i think jim baker's been left out in the cold on so he probably does have to you know, pony up and buy everything himself Which is why he's so desperate and sells like a motherfucker. Yeah, still he's making money off this You can't afford 17 000 for an hour unless you are making a shit ton of money a lot of money Is the the the idea of like I I have to pay for all this and I break even no not a fucking chance not a chance Um the the the other side of it is the people like the rushes and like the the hannities Who you know, whatever their career is now like, you know 10 15 years ago

They were only in the position they were in because of those benefactors. Yeah, shit like that. It's uh, You know, it's a good system. There's no there is a good system. There isn't that on the left Let's tell you that no no, we don't have that uh, we don't have that kind of candy evil about us No, but everyone wants to pretend that that's what uh soros is doing Of course everyone wants to pretend that that's what's happening, but it's not I know you are but what am I? It's it will never it will never end the The brilliance of the the right-wing scam To do the most evil shit and then simultaneously accuse their enemies of doing exactly what they're doing

As a way to preempt you from criticizing them for doing what they're doing see roger stone in august 2016 It's brilliant. It is awful and that's that's why we lose. Well, it's hard. That's why we lose It's hard to fight back against in a like In a strong coherent way, right? I'm not even positive how you do it necessarily. I mean we can't really always pitchforks Might it might be uh socialism Maybe I don't know Those sorts of things are certainly beyond our capabilities as broadcasters. We don't fucking know what the answer is We just know what the problem is. Yeah, here it is. Look at it

That's the other name of this show. Here it is. Look at look at this. God damn it Why isn't everybody looking at this? They're all con men and look at it. Yeah, look at it stare into the abyss So I told you that there were similarities Beyond the ad pivot that make this episode in particular very relevant to the alex jones that we know And the topics that we cover and I don't know the pay-for-play structure that jim bakers expressing I don't think that's like maybe not the biggest parallel I think there's some overlap but nothing I can prove in terms of alex's world I think he probably has you know, like I said, I think he's probably dishing out for some of those channels

Uh, but that doesn't make sense because if he was you'd have the fucking war room on more than one station But be that as it may this to me is uh, like this As a businessman alex keeps his overhead lower. That's not a terrible idea Uh We don't know that Fair we don't know that fair but we do know that this next clip. Uh, well, I know that and you will soon Is like this is like you might as well have alex jones on the jim bakers show. Oh boy The jerusalem embassy act passed in 1995 by our congress, which says they have to move the embassy

But they They put an out in there. They put a little clause in there that said but if it would endanger national security The president can sign a waiver So guess what 44 times the presidents have signed waivers since 1995 And then when donald trump he said why why why are they are they're just afraid of the enemies of jerusalem, right? They're afraid of offending un because most of them believe the un is destined to be a wonderful world government And so they were going to go straight directly against the un but what's your opinion of the un? Uh, well, we'll get into that a little later because that's serious the one world government

I'll just tell you one world government is is up safety Sure, so sure that is I mean that's just a not yelling alex and that's why we need a strong nationalist movement that aligns itself with other nations In order to make sure everybody's nationalist together in a global unified front. Yep. Yeah, that makes sense Mm-hmm. Could it also be now? I'm gonna posit you this could it also be that the reason that the waivers have been signed 44 times is because they were aware of the mass murders

and Instability of the region that would result From this kind of situation here. I mean, that's an interesting theory I'm just saying it's possible. It's possible I'm just saying that it might be that our government has known israel would be willing to murder any and everybody They have good they have good reason to think that. Yeah, I'm less interested in that. I want to focus more on urban backster Um, so of course he believes in a satanic one world government We'll get we'll get some even further parallels with alex here in a little bit revelations

I want to talk about something very specific. This guy has been making money off the israeli palestine conflict That's kind of what he does. That's one of the ways he stokes up fear So what do you think? I'm gonna read to you here. What do you think about this? Quote the signing of an arab-israeli peace treaty will be the most important prophetic fulfillment since the crucifixion of jesus According to the bible the signing of this treaty will begin the last seven years before the final battle of armageddon In the middle of the seven-year period the great tribulation begins That's something he wrote Okay, now does that sound a little less sincere when you realize that he wrote that in 1992

He's still got time to be right dad. He's still got time. No because the seven years. Yeah He's not he's talking about the Oslo Accord seven years is a lot longer in god's time Oh a day to god is a thousand years exactly So quote mid-east peace talks are in progress right now. It appears the treaty will be signed in 1993 Is it coincidental that 1993 is seven years from the year 2000? Yes It's not coincidence. That's math Okay, but of course as always this is part of a con

The article that he wrote goes on to say quote We want to send out one million magazines in america this month as the treaty is signed People will not respond to that which they do not know this special emergency edition of end time will explain the arab-israeli treaty And its role in prophecy the cost of printing and mailing a million magazines is 400 thousand dollars We're opening a mid-east emergency fund savings account All who would like to help awaken america may contribute to this emergency fund after four issues of end time We will have 10,000 subscriptions if 10,000 people give 40 dollars a piece. We could awaken america Right, right, right. I'm sure all of the money in that fund is going to go to uh

Awakening america is it going to go to that? I'm sure but I mean I guarantee that all of the money that he takes Yeah, this is just going to go right back out into the world. Right. I mean, you just you see you see what the game is here It's very it's very easy to see through game Um, so like I said, this gets much more similar to alex and it starts in this next clip and it made me shudder We often refer to international community New world order World community. We have the the world bank. We have the world court. We have the world trade organization We have the world health organization satan is right now hurting this whole world

Into a one world government because once he gets there then he gets control of it Then he can control every person on earth and he intends to control every person on earth You know what he wants to do he wants you to worship him That's his whole goal instead of you and me worshiping god He wants us to worship him And he's got a plan to herd the whole human race. It's through this one world government They call it globalism or globalization. Uh, oh boy Oh boy

Boy, this is the same thing Oh man, how fun is that? You know, I have a question. Okay, uh So satan wants everybody to worship him, right? He wants the ball that jesus has been playing with Uh, has has has he ever put forth a good reason why that's bad? Do you mean has as god or jesus put forth a reason? Yeah, that or or even erven bekster like if satan wants everybody on the planet to worship him Well, because he's old scratch. He's a liar. He's a liar. Yeah, but I feel like if everybody agreed

He wants to burn you forever with pitchforks So poke you in your butt. So how is it different if the one world government see her? I just want to yell old scratch again. The one world government is run by god or run by satan It's still two supernatural beings with nigh infinite power Who can do whatever it is they want and we're just pawns in their game. Why would you want to be part of that period? Well, I think uh, if you want to look at it from a humanistic standpoint and take a lot of the Window dressing away. I think the argument that they would make would have something to do with like god has your best interests in heart Uh, and he has I've read the bible. I don't think he does. It's I think he kind of doesn't like me

It's case by case. It's easy But the argument that they would make is that god respects man and old scratch just wants to trick man I mean, but if he gets what he wants, why would he continue to trick people? Because just caprice. Why do you think like jim baker went to prison for fraud and he got out and he's still doing fraud Right, but he's I mean, so wait what I don't understand what that argument is for or against I'm saying that uh Jim going to prison is the equivalent of the devil getting his way in some ways because it's the logical fruition of the scam He was pulling. Okay. It's the natural end to it. So why would he keep doing it after he'd already played it out?

Right, I would argue him going to prison is not a failure necessarily Okay, he still has more money than me. He had more money than me the day he got out of prison True Yeah, so no arguments for me Yeah, so go fuck fuck yourself with the idea that that's a failure And the idea that he can't keep doing it again like he can't just like say oh I was wrong, but here now i'm right Like that's that to me is the devil getting his way

I'm probably wrong about this really not following it. I'm not either You really don't know what you're trying to say. There's a kernel of truth in what i'm saying Okay, I can't quite get to it. Okay. I don't know man. I guess this it would be I don't know. Why does alex keep lying now that trump's president? There's more games to be played That's true So maybe it's that maybe the devil gets in charge of everything and then he's like Now I could get real interesting Oh, that's that's possible and then he would pretend that uh, jesus was trying to

Destroy things from behind the scenes. Oh, of course the deep state the deep Yeah, yeah, um, you know it would be something like that The the games that can be played with lies. Yeah never ending the game never ends. No, but I oh, that's depressing But I thought it was real fucked up to hear like uh the globalism and globalists. Oh, yeah This is like which suggests he's very aware of the uh people who are in alignment with him without Pulling the whole end times dressing on it Right and no alex pulls some of that but not nearly as overt as this right

But yeah, he not not to say that he definitely listens to info wars, but I wouldn't be surprised Or at least is like in that community like that that weird, um If you're an end times preacher info wars makes perfect sense for you I would think or at least your your info wars. Yeah, your info wars adjacent So the people that you know No info war the idea is made popular by info wars are something that urban backster Clearly is into yeah, and that's not good So, um in this next clip also because a lot of these ideas are based on archaic

Antisemitism and the protocols of the elders of zion course, so that's not great course But uh in this next clip we get to hear another similarity with alex jones And when I when I was listening to that debate of 17 republicans all of a sudden I didn't know who donald trump was frankly all of a sudden he starts speaking against globalism. I thought wait a minute Good, I heard a politician speak against globalism in a long time He must know something and then he spoke against a few weeks ago Well, I knew about the establishment I knew that for 50 years the same powers control both republican and democratic party

And I hadn't heard of that because I knew That there was a private club in america and 50 percent of our cabinet members come out of that private club Whether the republicans are in power or the democrats are in power You know, I wondered why when I voted I felt like I was voting for tweedly d or tweedly dumb and then I found out So Hilarious, then when he starts speaking against the establishment. I says does donald trump understand this no Whoa a politician speaking against the establishment. I can't imagine a time when that would happen someone might call him on bavarian Whoa somebody who's willing to upend the swamp or perhaps the corruption in

Dude dude Dude, I think every three weeks. We have a politician running on Upending the establishment. I think this is a good story For a person to tell because it buries the lead of like I heard him saying really fucked up stuff and I was like I dig this. Yeah, I dig this. He's gonna be repressive to uh people who aren't like me when I heard donald say that all mexicans were rapists I was like, whoa, I have never heard a politician say that before you don't want to say that on board with this guy

You don't want to be the guy going on jim baker show and saying that yeah, you want to say Hey, he was against the establishment. Oh my god when I heard him say that you can grab them by the pussy I was like, holy cow. This guy is really gonna upend the establishment. Absolutely. Yeah, so when I read about him raping his wife That so like I don't know. I don't know what to do with it. But there you go You know, you have you have this guest on jim baker's shows super into Uh Real inaccurate end times prophecies and it turns out he also believes the same shit as alex jones about politics

Yeah, so that's super fun. Hey Also, this is super fun. Uh, I don't think that uh, I think that here's a good example of urban baxter talking shit The bible actually tells us That there is a great harvest coming because we've got these two witnesses, you know Satan has his two agents anichrist and false prophet. They're alive somewhere today. They're alive. Sure. We don't know yet Because we're in the end times or at the beginning the false prophet He knows who the false prophet is when the anichrist arrives But these two are on the earth right now

But i'm not gonna tell you God's not sitting idly by because at the same time the anichrist is revealed the bible says he will send his two witnesses They called them the two witnesses or the two prophets and they're going to prophesy for 1260 days and these two These two preachers are going to be powerful. They're going to be have the option to turn off nations rain If those nations rebel against god, sometimes the water will be turned in blood You can read all about it in revelation chapter number 11 pass Hard pass on that hard pass on the prophets who turn off water

Hey, you know what? Hey, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? That's what happened to flint michigan So we hated god for a little bit too long waters oil now So we got the false prophet and the antichrist the antichrist is the one who impersonates christ Right, um, and then the false prophet bolsters Uh this antichrist. Yep. Yeah, and then on the other side you got two guys who can preach for a long time And one of them can turn off rain. Yeah, I don't know. I don't like this like superhero matchup. I don't like it Yeah, yeah, this is the worst avengers movie. I don't know who to root for here Right these guys both suck on the quote-on-quote good side. What does the other guy do?

Oh, he's like can they both turn off rain? No, no, no the other guy is like check this shit out the other guy Look, this is run dmc. That's who we're that's what we're talking about here. All right. All right. We got your uh, yeah Yeah, this is this is over with this is uh run the jewels. You got your killer mic You got your lp one of the guys spinning beats not the best rapper the other guy spits hot fire It's the way it goes. I I Now now you're gonna disagree with me about lp. I'm not I'm not I was going to I just think that I think what he thinks is that Pope is the anti or is the false is the false prophet I think that's what he thinks the cool pope. Well, that's what a lot of people like in these circles believe

Yeah, and they were that's why they were making the argument that like obama was the antichrist He was being bolstered by right the pope right the evil cool pope Uh This pope is telling us that the earth should survive and we shouldn't destroy it He is saying that it's okay to be a human being and accept other people and there's only one thing that can mean False prophet devil done. Um sold as opposed to the other pope who was a nazi Well, that was a great pope Loved that pope the pope who covered up sexual abuse. That wasn't the false prophet. That's most that was a great pope

The um the thing that I love about this is that it's so I was most of them Yeah, it's so urban baxter style to be like, I know this I'm gonna tell you yeah in the same way. He's very careful not to make these specific predictions about doomsday's Which is why it's fun that we were able to very easily come up with a couple that he said from over the last 30 years But uh, the he would never be dumb enough to be like, I know who the antichrist Is messenger is the false prophet is blank on air Because then like yeah, you don't get any cachet out of that. It's not fun. It's not sexy when you're wrong all the time Anyway, I love this level of psychopath

Like because serial killers are are you know, they're such a bummer Uh, they're fascinating, but they're a bummer like this level of psychopath is you know, this guy goes home and sleeps so well Probably like he is just like, oh another day in the factory scamming people out of money I am good. He probably has less concern of like people hurting him Uh and more like the irs looking into it. Yeah, like and that that fear is kind of like, well I'll know when I'm in trouble. So until I know Well, yeah, but this psychopath these psychopaths always think that they're gonna be one step ahead They always think they're gonna outsmart whoever is coming after them. So, you know, I mean Jim Baker probably only

Had that reinforced after getting out of prison and jumping back into this game He was like, look all they did to me was put me away for a few years and now I'm still rich I just hang out in a cell with Lyndon LaRouche What do you got on me? Come on. Yeah, I can do this again. You just taught me the parameters of what's not acceptable Exactly. I know my limits now. Yeah, this is blow all over again. I came I went in with a Marijuana and I came out with a bachelor's and cocaine or whatever. Right. Yeah so all this is Is to say that this is just I mean again, it's us banging the same gong over and over again

These are goddamn con men Just trying to scam grannies out of money and poor poor people who have been caught up in the fear cycle But yeah, more importantly What they're espousing has real world consequences. Yeah, and it's often Easy to say they don't really care about the consequences. They just want the money But sometimes they accidentally say things like this next clip that leads you to uh I think make the reasonable assumption that they kind of want to hurt the people that they end up hurting So they're like, uh, they're like, uh

First money, right close second. Fuck those guys. Uh, yeah, and it might it might be a tie I don't even know but here we go And then with the next video is the first steps to arm again, which we probably have already started, haven't we? Yes, we have we have started and I'll just tip the hat just a little bit And that is on I believe it was november the 29th of 2012 the general assembly of the un voted to recognize the palestinians as A non-member state well once they recognize them as a

Recognized state that qualified them to join the world court the international criminal court And once they become a member of the international criminal court, which they now have done They have the right to file charges against israel so that the international criminal court an arm of the united nations Can put the leaders of israel on trial So this was the first step and I tell all about it in hawaii. It's so significant in this particular dvd It's another aspect of the understanding that we all need right now Wow, you need to know because the king is coming back. Yes, and you know all hell is going to break loose So he is super afraid of the idea of palestinians having rights. Yeah

That's that's terrible. That's a sign of the end times all hell could break loose having the right of recourse Dude, you start giving people rights. We've seen this time and time again throughout history You start giving people rights and then they want to use them And that's the end times that is true. That's the end times dan It's the only it's only the end times for one thing Hey, you're gonna say but I don't need to hear it You're gonna say I don't need to but it's not even it's not even the one thing I think we're probably talking about like white supremacy

But it's more than that. It's because it's not just about white. It's also about trench power It is. Yeah, it's about it's about minority majority rule. You know, it's whenever it's about repression It's like continuing a system of repression It's about south africa being owned by 10 percent of by 10 percent white people and then being really pissed when 90 percent of the population It's like, hey, aren't we human beings too and having no Like no interest and the status quo being equitable. Yeah, no interest in uh, the idea that people who have been wronged can have Recourse other than protesting and getting shot outside a wall. Well, yeah, so Cool, we let them have their protest and I didn't do shit. I didn't let anybody do anything

I say they can do whatever they want Do with that wilt see now that now I kind of want satan to rule the world He's got a good. He's got a good policy. Alistair Crowley was Aldi version satan. It's a three liter bottle of cola of satan Anyway, we have one more clip and again, it's another parallel because the other day when we we were doing an alex jones episode We heard um him have that guy stan dayo on who was a christian fundamentalist Yeah, who is talking about the caldera yellowstone was gonna blow But then also saying a bunch of uh flagrantly racist stuff Um, and it's interesting because that's on uh, jim bakers mind too

Today a new headline about yellowstone It says yellowstone volcano eruption world not ready the red dragon in the news Really the world's not ready for major blasts experts say millions may die They're saying yellowstone volcano Eruption could kill scores of people actually millions Rock economies disrupt air travel even threaten peace as the world's unprepared for the next major volcanic blast Scientists say so this would be terrible says this next major eruption could very well happen in your lifetime Death toll could reach millions. It said this is brand new story just out today

Millions of hungry people do not stay quiet for a long time. It says so there's going to be a bad pivot coming people Fighting people killing people doing all kinds of crazy thing. You're gonna want to bucket of food Bible because the people who know the bible They're the ones who are going to be prepared and they're going to be soul winners They're going to take advantage of here comes time knowing that the time is is short. And so we're we're sending these and We're You sent a gift of 60 dollars. Mm-hmm. We're sending you

Four sets of teaching. Yeah, then you have the america's god given Destiny most people think america doesn't have much of a destiny in the way. We've been mocking god and killing children I'm I'm really I haven't seen this one yet. I mean it'd be like it'd be like israel killing children That'd be terrible. The true comedy is at the end there. He's like I haven't seen this one No, I don't read any of this shit. This is so profound and so important. I haven't seen that No, I haven't read it. I just assume it is because i'm selling it and you guys better send me 60 bucks I'll send you four of them skimmed it gotta do it. Oh gotta do it You know, I don't like I don't like how clear it was to you that that was uh, oh that was such an ad money

Oh, yeah, right around the corner that was one You knew it's bullshit because if I understand the volcano under yellowstone correctly That is an extinction level event if it if it erupts It's going to kill the planet Man, maybe a third of it like oh, there we go like that's gonna fuck everything up I think some estimates say that I don't know if that's a definite thing or sort of a worst and uh Next to worst case scenario. I mean, it's it's just I think I think regardless

It's like a bad add that to climate change in your fucked, you know Sure Like and all the stuff that he's talking about climate change is already doing as we speak like people are Absolutely Displacement. Yeah famine. Yeah, and that's leading to Increased nationalism which winds up leading to wars. Why can you only see this? And respect the outcomes when it's presented to you as a science fiction movie premise Yeah, like yellowstone blowing up. Well, because that's real Dan

But you can't see it really happening in the world climate change is alive perpetrated by the devil Whatever to bring about the end times Whatever. Yeah, this is bums me out Anyway, the thing the thing that I notice um most as far as a parallel between baker and jones is uh

When you go down to the lowest levels of this stuff It's so transparent and what bums me out about that is so many christians are like Well, we would never be taken in by that con man. You mean like alex jones. Yeah, we would never The so many so many republicans would be like we would never be taken in by that con man And you just go up a level and it's the same fucking scam man. They're just better at it Go down all the way to the bottom and then you can extrapolate backwards and you're like Oh, this whole thing is a fucking scam these guys that we're looking at all the time are the desperate con men And that's why you can see their tricks very easily so simply but it's all it's all done the same way on higher levels

Absolutely. That's that's a contention that I hold very strongly. Oh and uh, bums me out man It's brutal bums me out and and there's to me. What's fascinating is that there and I was thinking this the whole time. I was like I think I would be Way Better off with myself if I was taken in by like a really good con man, you know, like the best con man There's no shame in that You know, you get taken in by the best. Oh the best con man is gonna get you see. I miss he's so good at

I miss heard what you were saying. I thought you meant right now your life would be better if a good. Oh, no No, no, no, no, I mean if I would you were taken in by one it would be better that it be a good one Exactly you would want it you would want it to be the mic trout of con men. You'd be like look, man I got nothing against this. You got me. I'm an ace pitcher. He's still gonna hit a dog He's still gonna hit it. Yeah, it's gonna happen. Yeah, but when you're taken in by a con man That's what so many Christians are are pissed off about and that's why they can't get past it Is because they can't they get to look down on people taken in by these con men Because it makes them feel better about being taken in by a better con man

They're like, well, hey, man, at least I got taken in by a better one than that guy Those people are stupid and there's something to be said for the comfort of the con too Because when you're the mark the con man isn't just offering you a way to get rid of money They're offering you a presentation of the world. Yeah, so for like Jim Baker's minions Minions, maybe not his supporters and people who send him money His minions are his children. They get fake food out of it But then at the same time they get the comfort of checking that off the list, right? In reality, there's probably no need for those buckets ever. They're gross and you don't want them

But the fact that you have them in your home gets rid of some sort of insecurity that Jim Baker has created in you In the same way that alex jones because the world is so scary and so confusing He is able to contextualize the world in an adolescent way that people are really like it gives you a comfort If you if you think that all the world is this one group of people who are messing things up and then trying to Trying to get us all to fight with each other or whatever because they want a one world government much like this backstress Oh, thanks. That's much easier than being like no, man. There's rogue agents all over the place. People are selfish Um, people often miscommunicate things sometimes things happen by accident Um, you know, there is that's hard to deal with because the chaos of it leaves you with an

Relievable anxiety because you're never going to be able to know all of it. Right. So if you just are like, hey, it's the globalists They're evil Blah blah blah it offers you the same thing that having a food bucket in your house offers you And that's that's the part of me that I think or but not part of me But that's the part of this that I find the most um Gross is that they know that like they know that right they know that they're creating those anxieties in order to relieve them The hegelian dialect if you will yes problem reaction solution on a on a psychological level

They are offering that to their listeners and the solution is always money Yeah, always that you need to get my give us money And we'll either give you a thing or we'll fight the globalists for you And that will solve your problems and you can go about your life Comfortable right knowing that you are taken care of but still be afraid of not white Well, you gotta still be afraid of that still be afraid of them because they're usually up to something in sorrows Is paying them to be mad at you? I I am who knows I am

So fascinated by The fears that they have of the imaginary like the the devil like all of those things like It it is interesting to me because The reality is so much of this shit is actually just psychopaths Like so much like trump does not have the ability to feel emotions for other human beings Like he is a true psychopath. Yeah, he wants to fuck his daughter It's just like I want everything And I will do and say anything without shame like so many, you know, they do the they do the surveys and all that

Like what is the highest possibility of finding a psychopath go to a ceo? What is the highest place where you can find psychopaths go to dc? Like all of these places of power where psychopaths congregate in order to fuck you over And yet they can't believe like see but now it's hard to it's hard to wrap your head around a human being Who's just a human being that is a psychopath as opposed to an actual malicious devil Taking over and imbuing them with this psychopathy But that's the that that kernel of truth is one of the other things that's extrapolated by these people like alex in order to

Create this vision of a team of uh psychopaths right like this idea that yes power is a place where psychopaths congregate alex takes it to the next step which I mean it does make some sense if you don't Really understand how things work that like if there are a ton of psychopaths they'd get together and psychopaths together Right, but generally they can't really work together all that well Generally, there's going you don't usually see serial killers working as a team. You know what I mean? That's very very rare. Ah, but there are plenty of actual examples of that You have the hillside stranglers you have but there was way there's way more. Oh, yeah

Yeah, there's way more lone lone gunman right right and the reason for that is generally people of that mental Frame, yeah don't work well with others So they can be type a and and focused and driven enough to get to the top of a business world where it's like Crushing other people to get up and stuff like that. Yeah, you can do that just fine But then the idea of all banding together to fleece The rest of the world which alex would say is what they're doing is just that's not how Psychology works no and what I would really prefer is I would really prefer that if it came down to it There would be two psychopaths who were evil

Who are fighting against two psychopaths who were good and some of them could turn off the rain? Exactly and then we could finally answer that there we go water revival Song's question who will stop the rain? I'll tell you who one of god's missioners You're welcome Fogarty in a purely punitive way for no reason for not respecting god enough. Yeah, if there's and I I I Really really that's one of the things that I really wish is that

People could get past that like primitive reactionary idea of the way to solve things is through punishment like The even if god god's messengers Their plan is to fucking punish people who don't like them. That is the same That is what is built into the the hard right Evangelical bullshit is like of course poor people shouldn't have money They need to be punished for being poor to get over the porous. That makes perfect sense That's the same fucking idea. Oh, of course these people aren't acting the way god wants them to So we kill them

Duh That way they'll learn or we don't kill them, but we're we celebrate that they got killed Yeah, exactly We don't want to have the agency of it, but we're thrilled with the result and that's kind of what you can see being expressed here Yeah, palestinians and that's gross It's fucking gross uh in regard regarding palestinians not by palestinians, right? I think that's what I said If not, that's what I meant. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I in regards to them like what backsters opinions Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the fuck about them having any

rights, right? Anyway, I mean well apartheid it's always been great Dan everybody knows it a lot of people got rich. Yeah um Like uh, bb net and yahoo's wife and him and uh, all of those bobby chaps. Yeah those guys It's crazy how much they hated it whenever people had rights. It's almost like they had a financial incentive to make sure they didn't So anyway, uh, we should wrap this up. Yeah out of clips. Yeah, and uh I don't know. I don't want to name a person. I don't uh, because I it's too obvious Oh, there's there's only one ricky baker

That fucking kid No, I'm gonna go with jim baker's sister. What are you doing lady? Oh, oh, okay. Oh, I forgot she was in this. Yeah. Yeah, right. She was in israel Go fuck yourself jim baker's sister jim baker's unknown sister Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you