Knowledge Fight - #186: February 17-18, 2009

Episode Date: July 30, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about some of Alex Jones' past deeds. In this episode, the gents learn about so many lies about European Satanism and meet a possibly disappointing (but definitely very crazy) guest.

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan. What up, Dan? What did you do today? What did I do? Well, I prepared this episode, right? I made an omelette What'd you have in that omelette? Just a couple of couple sorts of cheeses couple sorts of cheeses. So is it cheese omelette? Yeah, it's a cheese omelette. I was gonna put some green pepper up in there Also, I was thinking about throwing in a habanero, but my habaneros had gone bad. Oh turn. That's bad

So yeah, just just a pepper jack Colby Excellent. I'm a lot. Well, I've learned a lot about your day today. That is very similar to the now. This is a terrible Rough day watching really hard. I watched the keepers the keepers is fucking brutal But you in a weird mood yelling at me before the show Yeah, we do it's a corrupt evil institution that needs to be destroyed. It's a decent theory Needs to be taken down. So Jordan. This is a show where we now know about each other's days I know a bit about Alex Jones. I only know what you tell me about Alex. That is correct That is how we play our little game. Yeah, our little game

You know, it was fun when we had the bit the bit was comforting to me. Now. I feel adrift somewhat Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm being thrown off a tiny bit because I'm happy. I Read it. I read I unplugged and plugged back in everything on our soundboard in preparation for something We're about to unveil here in a little bit and it's causing severe problems In terms of our headphones. Oh, yeah, so I'm being thrown off a little bit by like my headphones dropping out Yeah, so this is gonna be this is gonna be an adventure as we go along, but I think everything will be fine I have prayed for peace and guidance. All right. Well, not not in not in the Catholic Church I'll tell you that right now sir. We are officially enemies of the Catholic Church, but something that's not our enemy is a new donor

Thank you Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard as a policy wonk. Thank you so very much. Carrie. I'm a policy wonk I'm staring at you. I know You and I both know what I know and you know is what I want to say, but I know I know you're a bit I can't say it. Can't I can't do it. Nope. It's against the law now It is not where he carried it. I promise you that much It is not but thank you so much, Carrie If you would like to support the show you can do so by going to knowledge fight calm clicking the sport the show button

It would be appreciated and you get to tell people at cocktail parties that your policy won't yeah They people love that people love hearing at cocktail parties about one podcast sure you just being a cocktail parties I was just at the home association Man, they had so many fun conversations so many about like how much does your condo cost? Mm-hmm great conversation That's a great podcast. How much does your condo? Oh now? That's a great game show is it is even better people put people behind the screen the price is right for this condo exactly Yeah, there's a guy who's climbing up a mountain and yodeling or some shit. I don't remember at parties

Podcast talk. Yeah, is this it? So Jordan today what we're doing what we in the past, baby. Yeah back in 2009 going over February 17th and 18, 2009. Cool. Man. I found some fun stuff. Okay. I found some You know what? It's it's a thing when we go back into the past where It's one of the good opportunities for me to really sink my teeth into some weirdos And I think I found a championship weirdo today. Okay, he's no Daryl Hamamoto, but there's the guy one of the guys for you No one will ever be Daryl Hamamoto. No, you are you are some in some sort of infatuated love with that man

And I will never understand it. I also think he's gettable. You know what I mean? You think he's gettable? I mean he's been fired by UC Davis now, so I think he has been fired Yeah, it's been it's come up in the go-home and tell your mother you're brilliant Facebook group some posts He's made on Facebook clearly indicating that he's been fired Which can't imagine why they got him. Yeah, I think everybody at that school Like every administrator the moment they figured it out. They were like we got him this time Yeah, you found a tenure loophole. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, good work guys So Jordan today here is an out-of-context drop from this episode before we end up talking about a championship weirdo, okay?

Somebody comes after me. They're gonna get a ball peen hammer upside their head repeatedly. All right. All right All right, fair enough. That was I would think only one shot would be necessary But apparently apparently somebody comes after him He's going to mercilessly and brutally beat them to death with a ball peen hammer. I'm not sure a ball peen hammers In the hammer world I go claw hammer as far as as far as pain goes. I'm telling you ball peen is the way to go Not I don't know. I still think claw hammer would be worse But that's it. That was in the middle of a conversation about like you don't even need a gun You have a hammer you can have a hammer leave some nails in your car. It's plausible deniability that you might be building something

Here's your alibi right exactly Something always carry hammer with you you always building things if you happen to murder somebody with it We're they can't prove shit. Yeah, you have nails. Yeah a little later He gets a call a call from a guy and he's like hey Alex. I heard you're talking about hammers earlier I'll tell you the best thing road flair What was he hoping what happened? I don't like you could scare someone with a road flair Oh, I think he was I was hoping Alex would be like you bet That's my prediction and did not go I

Was hoping that he would just be like talking about things you should have in your car. Just like hey Alex Blankets, what if it's cold your car breaks down? You're gonna need some blank jumper cables for sure spare tire water water couldn't hurt don't need it Get a salt some of it You know, it's even better than that for drinking though What's that road flares? Absolutely a lot of stuff in there to your thirst. Oh, yeah with a nice road flair Uh-huh, so Jordan we're gonna start today on You're like Alex Jones tried to try to trademark a name about road fliers now. I'm I'm certain it's

I bet he I'm certain he sold some at some point Anyway, we start here on the 17th and Alex is talking geo politics And I'm going to I don't really want to talk too deeply about this, but it's very interesting because It is yet another example of fundamental changes that have happened in Alex since 2009 and the Wahhabi is to based out of Saudi Arabia Supposedly the group al-qaeda comes from For Wahhabi is groups and then another curd group but four of them Wahhabi is including the number three in al-qaeda launching terror attacks against dams police stations military installations

Sabotage of factories. I mean the list goes on and on listen and Iran sabotage has laid back and taken it. I Ran has gone along with it all They have taken These probes to stir them up and get them to have more intense rhetoric or to launch some type of military attack in Iraq Poking them in the nose hitting him over the head of the baseball bat trying to get the bull to go hog wild So at this point Alex knows that people have a vested interest in trying to rile up Iran Yeah, which is interesting because that's not quite his tale that I don't understand what you're saying He does think that they're bad now. Oh, he does. Well, I mean the same thing

We've already documented him talking about how the Iran nuclear program was peaceful Yep, when he talks about it in 2009 and in the present day, he's like they've always been trying to make a bomb It's a bad idea to start a war with Iran and then cut to his boy He's starting a war with Iran and he's like hey, we've always we should have started a war with Iran Whenever I didn't want to start a war with Iran the parallels are going to become even starker in the next few clips It's really weird how close this is to the present day And That even though it's so far away

Chronologically so here Alex talks a little bit more about the situation in Iran And this is one of the reasons here clips like this are one of the reasons that unfortunately I'm not able to do that time travel episode for Jim where he talks about Netanyahu coming to America I just think that there's a there's a path. We're on here. Oh, do you mean the sequel to coming to America with Eddie Murphy? Yes, yes, absolutely. That would that would be a great one He's not quite a prince, but he is the Prime Minister. He starts working at McDonald's turns it into a fascistic Apartheid state you can reuse a lot of gags You could so this this is sort of indicative

I believe of how we need there needs to be a journey as opposed to us just jumping to the destination It's a false flag attack bottom line Drink we got a false flag So this is outrageous And Israel boldly is admitting That they are staging terror attacks In Iran this is nothing new. I mean imagine they're publicly admitting they have

Hit men sabotage groups front companies and double agents to disrupt the regime's Illicit weapons project the experts say and Israel's openly announcing this so it'll be in Iranian TV and news and So there is public pressure of the Iranian people to fight back So it's very clear in 2009 as we've already documented This just reinforces it even that Alex is pretty critical of the Israeli government He's already been clear in the past that he is pro-Palestinian. He believes in what they're They're up to right to a certain extent and he's critical of Israelis Pointing out that they're fucking with Iran. Yeah, you know, that's very very different than currently

That's very different than even I would say a few years after this right what's interesting though is that Israel's still doing it pretty much They've been pretty much playing by the same playbook for a long time Right just trying to start shit with Iran where Alex would now say like Iran Israel isn't perfect, but they're Christian They're they're Western Yeah, they're fighting off there We're just throwing off globalist rule and the problem with the globalist is they're against apartheid and we got to get rid of those guys

As you've already seen I am pro apartheid Love love me selling some gold from war criminals. Love it. Love it. So that's super weird That's why I don't want to jump to the end Like I don't want to read the end of this choose-your-own-adventure book I want to I want to follow the path that the book is taking me through where how does Alex get from Because if we were to go and listen to the episode that yeah, we could make assumptions of what changed I think I have a pretty good idea. Oh, yeah with money. Oh There there and you're so cynical. Maybe maybe Alex has made me that way

Repeated listening this asshole read cynicism, but like there could be something along the way that Acts as a as a pivot point or a fulcrum sort of thing and we would be remiss to not have that in the conversation So we need to find the crux exactly exactly so I told you this is going to become Much more relevant to present day as it relates to Iran pretty quick And here is where that happens So Israel launches covert war against Iran Israel has launched a covert war against Iran is an alternative to direct military strikes Against Tehran's nuclear program US intelligence sources have revealed The most dramatic element of the

Decapitation program is the planned assassination of top figures involved in Iran's top operations The assassination of leaders oh We're in your country. We're gonna kill your leaders Huh, how are you doing that and then Ahmed energy will take the bait and say If you do that we'll wipe your state off the map and then the media will say for no reason Ahmed energy said he'd blow them up. How dare him We're only blowing up their dams and shooting their police chiefs Isn't that weird? God damn it. Isn't that weird?

I hate it whenever he does have an understanding of how things would go if what he thought was real sure like if if so he's he's He's putting out a prediction of exactly what's going on right now Which is insane at this point in time because it doesn't make any sense But if you're an insane person creating conspiracy theories, you know exactly how people would react to an actual Conspiracy so he's nailing it on the head in this fake world right and then unable to see it whenever it's part of the real world Perhaps the fascinating or he's very very aware of it and he's just too far up a Trump's asshole to escape now That's probably more likely probably some dirty rocks up Trump's dirty asshole right now probably yeah

But the thing that I find more interesting is that Alex really clearly understands that like when Ahmadinejad comes out and is like blustery Rhetoric it's in response to threats that are being made to him Yeah, and in the same thing in the present day with you know Trump's now famous all caps We're gonna fucking murk you dude. Yep tweet to Iran that only happened because Mike Pompeo said that Iran is being run as a mafia Yeah, and then they responded the peace with Iran is the greatest piece Yeah war with Iran is the greatest war right which is I would say a measured threat You know, it's not even really a threat. It's not because the peace part is in there, too

Yeah, it's more like come on. Let's do this because neither of us want the worst war Worst war is bad for everybody. Absolutely. Yeah, and it's just saying that like if we go whatever direction we're going It's gonna be extreme, you know like peace or war right either one is going to be towards the end of that spectrum because of I mean, we're in extreme days. Yeah, that movie You know, Christian extreme sports movie that I brought up I don't know why That I don't know why leaders do that kind of blustery bullshit. I think they would be much more Successful if they just threw shade, you know, I'm saying like if the ayatollah comes out

And it's just like no, it's just like man You guys really want to start a ground war and invade Iran. That's a great idea Look at what Iraq did to you guys like if you just throw some shade Just throw some shade and everybody be like ooh America got burned and then we'd go away. No, not these days to that would probably start a war Trump would be like I don't give a shit. I don't get owned on Twitter. Yeah, that would be the response to that I just think it's fascinating because it's the exact same scenario that played out

What was it last week in present day and Alex in 2009 had a clear awareness of like this is being done Not in a vacuum and you're yeah, he does the stupid voice to indicate disdain for the people who think it comes from no I know and now he's fine with like Trump like hitting the volley back of violence That's what I'm saying. Yeah, if you're crazy crazy things make sense to you except while crazy things are happening In which case you're too crazy to accept that this crazy is the correct crazy But when you were crazy in a way that was normal back then you understand how crazy people would act if everything's crazy now It's possible. It's he's the Hannibal Lecter of conspiracy theories is what I'm saying So in this next clip we get a little break from the starting off on the Iran-Israel issues

And we get into a caller Who's crazy, which is just fun But I was just wondering if you noticed during the inauguration We know that that they they always announce what they're gonna do and sometimes they do that symbolism and double-speak And when Robert delivered the inauguration oath They messed it up on purpose. They messed it up on purpose. He would he didn't miss he didn't stutter or

He was very purposeful and he was so determined that he actually repeated the oath The wrong way and I went ahead and looked up some of the words in the dictionary to see what Maybe they were trying to say and another definition for execute, which is one of the words that was misplaced In the sentence which changes the meaning of it to execute office of president also means to end off President and it may be that they're announcing that Obama will be the last president and he will bring in the New World Order North American Union and end the office of the presidency No, I agree. He repeatedly said execute the office of the president

And then they gave the oath quote in secret no media but But it was reported that he then didn't even swear in on the Bible the next time so this is all symbolism very important to these people Well done Good job. Look at that guy. I just called because he had some amazing information I have and that is did you know that? Execute has more than one meaning don't don't don. All right now you think Of course you do because you've never even looked at a dictionary You think that the word execute in this speech only means one thing sure sure, but if you look it up in the dictionary

Uh-huh, it can mean more than one thing So if it if a word can mean more than one thing and you think it means one thing They might think you think it means one thing, but you mean the other thing double-speak. That's how you do it That's how you signal to the Illuminati as opposed to a letter or an email the or a phone call The problem is that most people are monolingual Then or mono definition well Alex's listeners and Alex the bilingual they know how to speak globalist Ah, that's true. They ought to get those little words that have multiple meanings and use the wrong ones Dude do not tell them about your your and your no they will lose their shit

Yeah, be nuts. That's maybe that's why they can never spell it right is because there's only one definition for them Yeah, they've never looked it up in the dictionary and if they did oh my god be a conspiracy wild I don't know about possessives all right So when he said it's my job to execute your office of the presidency You don't realize that he meant you are the presidency and that is why he's Executing you and we need to find out who our is because he is gonna kill our no one fucking tell info warriors about like Latin and Greek like the declension of nouns

tell them about Level of language is they're gonna all Fucking study circles around us the first person to diagram a sentence for an info warriors is is gone We got to get that's a trade. They're still doing that's a traitor. They're still doing it right now. They started That is an ad We are looking for the object of the sentence Not the direct object God damn it. Well, I gave you the object directly. What do you say? Hold up now did you know did you know that the word direct can mean straight to and it can also mean to

Control so you guys are trying to direct my sentences and I don't need this bullshit. Well, let's double speak So that's that's all good and well, but I found this next clip and it's in the middle of what I'd describe as a panicky but Overall not all that far out version of a discussion of the situation with GM GM's in trouble Yeah, at this point 2009 and so Alex is talking about that. That's not important Of course not because why would I imagine that it was when I was listening to this episode? I had to play it back a couple times. I had to like Scroll back. I think this might be an embedded Chrysler commercial But I'm not positive no I need you to listen to this

Tell me what you think okay because this is really weird put put the mic down for this because it's it's it's subtle Shares of General Motors fell 12% to this day as the automaker prepared to Submit a new survival plan to the US officials later in the day under the terms of the 13.4 billion government bailout GM and smaller rival Chrysler have been seeking concessions from the United Auto Workers Union and their creditors to show How they can be made viable under the 17.4 billion federal loan package approved in December You know, I got to say Chrysler's really putting out some great cars the last few years too bad They're probably going under or to become some new globalist company, but Really some great cars and side issue

both automakers face a Tuesday deadline Yeah, I drive a Charger love it side issue, but automakers great value to the car Very weird The first time I said it like Great company Chrysler's been put down some great cars past two years. That's weird, but I know he does like That's not that weird He cuts off in the middle of a sentence to be like I drive a

Charger great side issue great car side issue anyways some great value there No, the world is any you're gonna want to value based shop at this point. It's we're in a recession I have to ask you. Do you think there's any chance that's an embedded commercial? No, I think he Is just he does say that he thinks they might go out of business. Yeah, that's probably not what the copy They'd want you to Probably outside of Chrysler's best interests for advertising, but then no I think he does say he does say like they're gonna go out of business or become a globalist company Which is a weird thing to say, but that's what Chrysler would want his audience to be afraid of there because then they would

They would need to buy Chrysler cars in order to keep in order to keep them from going to the globalist exactly Yeah, okay, so it's a third stage all right I'm bad at that. That's crazy sounds bad a little bit up front But the reality is now all these wingdings are gonna go buy Chrysler's boom They're safe. So you're saying that Alex saved Chrysler in the single-handedly with one very weird accidental commercial in the middle of the February 17th I think it's more like he just really loves cars and he was really bored by what he was about to talk about So he's just talking about so he doesn't want to read anymore. No, he's also

I should tell you that this overnight this 17th to 18th overnight Is this is really weird? Because he had just I believe on the evening of the 17th He does coast to coast a.m. Uh-huh and so he's working all day and trying to finish the Obama deception Then he does this show that's on at midnight Yeah, and so he basically is running on no sleep for a lot of this Yeah, and then something really fucked up happens the night of the 17th, which we'll get to later So he's just like I would not be surprised if he's running on no fumes. Yeah at this point

He doesn't he doesn't even have super male vitality yet to give him that boost no No, he just has he can't put that on any burgers. He says beyond tangy tangerine to boost him Boost him up made by Joel Wallach a veterinarian put on some of them diamond gusset jeans Hoping for the best a little bit too tight. I think diamond gusset might have stopped advertising with them by now I've not heard any diamond gusset commercials. Okay. It makes me very sad It's just survival. Yeah, those were those were the days man soap. Yeah, that's soap Although I haven't heard anything from Marty Schachter in a while. He's limericks coming. Yeah, I know he's been he's sort of been Yeah, so it is hard to write original limericks these days though all of those were not originally all of those

I know but he's writing them on his own He's writing limericks that he it turns out are exactly street jokes that he heard like by accident Parallel thinking. Yeah. Oh, well, no like like I forgot that I heard that and then you write it and you're like I'm a genius. He's reading them straight out of like Milton Burl's dirty joke book. That's what he's doing We all we all know this is what's going on So now Jordan we get to a chunk in this episode. Yes, that makes me so fucking happy Okay, this isn't the crazy dude That's gonna be at the end of this episode

But this is the other like what I would call marquee excitement for Dan Okay in this episode right and that is a caller calls in and wants to talk about how there are a bunch of occult people Running the world so a bunch of world leaders are deeply into the occult and they are Satanists Does he think he is coming up with an original idea for this show? He wants Alex to provide citations Not like real ones not in a confrontational way It's more like I had an argument with my buddy about this and I need to be reminded of who are you talking about right? And so Alex comes in and man all this stuff is so fucking fun. All of it is so wrong It's so easily traced back to what he's talking about

This is like this is where it's like this is gonna be like 30 minutes of this podcast that is all you're busted What are you talking about Alex? Okay, so here's the first one where we begin our journey You've got a great memory for things like this. You've mentioned some of these bizarre Occult the antics that some of the world leaders like Blair and others have Engaged in can can you cite a couple of those? I hate to put you on the spot, but I was I wonder Yeah, it's been in the London Telegraph and a bunch of other publications that

Tony Blair You know guys Google this during the break I Tony Blair's wife Engages in occult activities Tony Blair does ritual stay there I'll think about the headlines during the break and try to pull them up from memory My computer is working working working working. All right So you brought up Tony my internet connection is bad bad bad not great. Nope

So Tony Blair's wife got brought up there and we'll talk about it a little bit sherry Blair Do I think about her? Do you remember any of this shit? No, she's evil though I actually think that she might not be as evil as you think She's she's had to apologize a couple times for statements that make a whole lot of sense Oh, yeah, one of them about like a Palestinian suicide bomber. I believe it might have been a suicide bombing I forget these specific details, but she had to apologize because she made a statement that was You know, not like a not like a curated public statement or anything, but a response was I think Intel We live in a world where young people don't think that blowing themselves up is a good solution

I don't know what we're talking about something along those lines. Oh, so she's right. Well, I don't know if she had to apologize for I don't know if she's always right, but she's made statements like that. They're like, all right I kind of dig this now. I don't know too much about sherry Blair. I'm not gonna tell you that I've I've read all of her auto biog She's married to Tony Blair. She's evil enough sure But it does appear it appears that she does have a little bit of a spiritualist streak in her Okay, all right, Alex isn't like totally Making things up here like what kind of spiritualist are we talking like 1920s revival kind of like seances and that kind of stuff a little There's some say on there's some say that's okay

There's some other other stuff that we'll get into some of the specifics in the next clip But so sherry Blair has a couple of friends a mother and daughter pair named Sylvia and Carol Kaplan Carol Kaplan was a woman who was a style guide or a style advisor Okay for for Tony and sherry Blair So they had a long-standing relationship and it turns out that Sylvia Kaplan Was she claimed that she could speak to the spirit world and it seems that sherry Blair believed her I feel like if you're a style guide you have to also believe that you can speak to the other mom Oh, okay style guides mom

Okay, it was like a ex ballet dancer. All right, she was in like he was in the late 60s when she was doing this medium ship shit Uh-huh. Um, so it turns out that it you know that the two of them were in contact and there's with the other side Sure, there's some credible Citations and evidence that they might have talked about ghosts But I don't really care That's not I mean everybody's talked about ghosts that doesn't charm me at all It's just sort of like on the level of who cares. Yeah, and also she has like a Crystal necklace that she thinks is magical, but like half the sherry Blair does half of the people we know have fucking rocks

Yeah, I was gonna say like yeah, that's not You you scratch a comic hard enough sooner or later. You're gonna find crystals. You're gonna hear about them crystals Half of the artistic world is like we're really desperate the world sucks right now. Oh wait about crystals quartz. Yeah Yeah, that'll fit. I had a little phase. I Still actually do think that there's something to it But it's not about the rock being magical at all It's just something you can sort of project on to having a little totem of something right right sort of a psychosomatic benefit I think right from it. I see what you say

I don't critique anyone for it, but it also is like this isn't this isn't worshiping the devil so interestingly Carol Kaplan the style advisor the younger one her boyfriend was a man named Peter Foster Whose main claim to fame as having been arrested for fraud in at least six countries Ranging from medical fraud to do Stuff to do it's tough to get all six He also had horse horse racing related cons that he had pulled in the past. Well, yeah, but that's innocent stuff We we've seen Ocean's 11. He was deported from Ireland for trying to sell franchise rights for 200,000 euros to sell fake slimming pills I was in like 2002

Like any crime that actually gets you deported from a country like Ireland right like it's not it's not even like you're not from here It's just like God. You're such a dick. We need you gone from the entire country. Right. No prison time Just go you've been arrested in countries for Nigh on 20 years now. Yeah for frauds. You're doing it here now. You gotta leave. Yeah, we've had enough If you get arrested for fraud if you get deported for fraud from one country Shouldn't you be immediately suspect in all other countries? Turns out you can use aliases. I think okay I think that might have been some of it. Okay So Foster worked his way into Carol Kaplan's life because she was already friends with the Blair's and once he was there

He worked on some sort of a con and he got an outrageously good deal for the Blair's on a pair of flats and Bristol This was a scandal. Yes, because they got a Weirdly cheap couple of slots flats And it was all worked out through this Peter Foster guy, okay Who was the boyfriend right of their style advisor if you know the cost of property in London? You know that a pair of weirdly cheap flats is worth Ungodly amounts of money right and so it came out that he was the one who was behind this deal And it also then came out that he has a 20-year history of fraud

That became a problem that should be a bigger problem than I think it was right so as the This sort of but before the public aspect of it set in he began a began a publicity campaign designed to make himself appear Like he was much closer friends to the Blair's right He actually was in order to extract publicity for himself. Yeah in order to shield himself from investigations Right like that right and because he was dating their style advisor He had done things like go to their house for Christmas And so he used that as a way to be like they had me over for Christmas as opposed to I went with my girlfriend Who was their style advisor? I know why he's been such a both successful and strongly

Unsuccessful con man over the years also he dated Samantha Fox Of course, why wouldn't he have holy shit crazy that was his first con. I read it. Yeah, I read a Comment from her that was like I would never fall for him ever again like fall for his tricks ever again But I was in my early 20s. I was vulnerable. I came from a bad home. Yeah, and he was able to manipulate me Yeah, fuck this guy that is his life So the issue here is not with any kind of spiritualism that sherry Blair may or may not believe in the issue Is that we have in front of us is a bunch of really gullible people? Carol Kaplan fell under Peter Foster's sway to the point of becoming pregnant by him

Players accepted a very clearly shady real estate deal at his direction stands to reason that they're falling for this guy's shit It's well within the character to fall for Kaplan's mother's mediumship, too Yeah, that's the real conversation that anyone should have yeah about this situation Why are our world leaders that dumb right so further the angle that yeah exactly That's the angle that Alex should be taking these people are fucking stupid They fall for obvious con man That would be a valid line to make because as it stands now the only thing he could really be outraged by It only makes sense if he believes that Kaplan's mother really is communicating with spirits

Your biggest issue his biggest issue is how come I don't get to communicate with the spirits That's one complaint could be made that might be veiled in there But like if he doesn't believe that it's possible to have seances and talk to the spirits right then I Do I don't it doesn't matter if he believes it they believe it Dan no that doesn't matter Oh, no, you're right. It doesn't matter that doesn't none of this matters And if you don't believe it, but they believe it then your real complaint is they're Again, do you want your world leaders being people who talk to ghosts? Then we could talk then we'd have a like huh good point now. I was a fan of the

Labor mayor who could speak to aliens or not mayor. He was a he was a councilman, right Simon Park Yeah, I'm a fan aliens. He's that's true. That's true. Well a few times a year, which I think is a fine number Right, so the only manifest aspects of the spiritualism of sherry Blair is that one time in 2001 on vacation in Mexico The Blair's went to a steam bath smeared each other with melons and papaya and did some primal screaming in a rebirth ceremony But why are our world leaders? That's dumb. No, I would love to do that. I think that would be awesome I know and you shouldn't be a world leader. Nope. That's true Also primal scream therapy was incredibly popular for a long time. Yeah, that's true Also, they consulted a Feng Shui expert about 10 Downing Street and about civic planning in terms of streets and that sort of thing

It's all really super benign stuff It's might be a waste of time you could make that argument, but otherwise super benign The and the only ultimate policy result that this had is something that Alex should be a hundred percent excited about In 2002 quote the government announced that for the first time since the creation of the NHS Alternative remedies could be granted the same status as conventional treatments despite the absence of evidence that they might cure the sick The switch quote is thought to have been influenced by sherry Blair's interest in alternative therapy Alex theoretically is able to sell his pills much easier in the UK because of sherry Blair's spiritualism God damn it. Right. Why are our world leaders so dumb, right?

So this all is very fascinating to me and most of it most of the information that is out there is either not true or gossip or Strong embellishments. Yeah of this sort of thing So now Alex went out to break while his computer boot boot boot boot it up, and he comes back from break with this about Tony Blair Google Tony Blair occult and thousands of hits came up. It's a bunch of means first of all Why didn't he just tell that one guy to Google it? That'd be great I would I would say that also this is while we have our board of differences up there If we are having a board of similarities one of the other ones is not understanding how Google searches work Right, just because you type in Tony Blair occult and like a hundred thousand results show that's true

That means it's true if there were if there were a hundred thousand of yeah, not about whether it's true or not That does not mean there's a hundred thousand articles. Oh about this. Okay, that means that Google found Possibilities, but if you get to page three or four, it's gonna be something completely different. Yeah, you have maybe six Articles about this and they're not articles. They're from blogs. Right anyway stream articles I remember the fact that he goes to all these different occult excites around the world and That does these different rituals. He did an Aztec rebirthing ritual British papers have reported literally hundreds of times that I remember

That every morning he is possessed by a spirit. He calls the spirit of light and Sometimes it makes him flop around the floor So he has epilepsy so does Tony Blair have epilepsy. Is that what he just revealed? Well, I mean the ultimate truth may be that but I think more likely we're dealing with bullshit Yeah, so the only reference I can find to this story about the light Possessing Tony I'm very interested in this story This is on a 2007 blog that without a link or citation claims that the Times of London was reporting that Tony Blair sought the advice of the spirits The blog which is called boys from Bohemia claims that in an article from Vanity Fair quote when Blair has had clashes with Gordon Brown

He sought the advice from Kaplan the style advisor Yeah, who got her mother Sylvia to do a new age reading involving a hidden force called the light Foster said Tony would call and Carol would say I'll ask mum to channel on this and ring you back Did you hear that at the end? Foster said This is all information coming from Peter The years decades long con man god damn it way into their life all of this information comes from him trying to Smear the blairs after he I mean this is sad unfortunately

The Carol Kaplan the pregnancy ended in a miscarriage Oh, that is the two of them ended up separated and since then he's gone a on a fucking tear Trying to say that she was having an affair with Tony Blair Tony Blair got you come out with all sorts of smear campaigns against them guess what this is another one. Yeah, this is amazing. So The London Times article that Alex and this blog are citing they don't directly cite it They don't put a link to it and there's a reason Because the title of it is quote con man foster

Yeah, I can't imagine why they wouldn't put a link to that Why they wouldn't put a link to that full title con man foster kicks p.m. In pants the article begins quote the Australian con man at the center of the Sherry gate affair has made a fresh series of claims about the prime minister as he Tries to promote a book covering his relations with the blairs Foster who has called himself the human headline has produced no evidence for his latest allegations Yeah, so all of this comes from another con man Peter Foster trying to make a bigger name for himself and create a bigger story Alex knows that if he's ever looked into any of the sources if he's gone down to the bottom of page one in Google Or if he's just read the headline

No, cuz he if he read the boys from bohemia blog or something like that They say it comes from Times of London. Yeah vanity fair article or whatever and he doesn't know who Peter Foster is He doesn't know that because he didn't look into it. He could just assume like oh my god It says Times of London. This is true, right? He acts like his listeners And but I think he does it intentionally. Yeah knows more. It's harder for him to lie. Yeah, that's true I think that's possible deniability. Yeah, if you never learn anything, you're always right. Yeah, so as To the charge of Tony Blair and Carol Sherry Blair being a super into the occult. I'm gonna give that a soft ya busted

Because she really isn't to the right that stuff right, right? So, you know, you're embellishing off something that's benign and actually real But the other stuff is a complete lie and Alex you're being tricked by a con man I also kind of think that having a style advisor is in its own way a con, right? Well, no, that's a con being done by the style Advice. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah There's no way just what wear suit, but I'll tell you go buy a suit and have the guy say this is a good suit And then you're good. I need one. I Definitely need a style advisor. So if anyone wants to con me, feel free to give me some style advice. All right

So that's that's the UK. Uh-huh. What do you think about the world? Le Monde Francophone, I Don't think about it much. What do you think about the world of the spirits l'esprit en français? the French spirits may we What do you think about this speak English? What do you think there are any French leaders? Are there any French style advisors? There are no style advisors in this story in France not here yet Not in this story. Are they outlawed in France though? Yes, okay? It's

So in this next clip we learned about how this insidiousness yes of spiritual Satanism Oh, it's everywhere. There's also infested Le Monde Francophone, which I've already said I should just said France Yeah, I was trying to remember in specifically who it was that you reported as going on hauling at the moon. Was it a Frenchman? It was actually yes, that was a Francois Mitterrand Okay, and he See, I mean this is memories you bring them up It's on record that the architect the Japanese architect. Ah, who's the Japanese architect? He's actually Chinese born American

Who built the Louve? Pink gold pyramid France one Mitterrand in a ritual in there. There's a black pyramid inside inverted I imagine that was just an opening ceremony or something like that I don't think it was a ritual build a pyramid you put an upside down black pyramid inside of it I've played Final Fantasy 7 trip So above you know as below as above right, you know so below And then Mitterrand because it was so important went to a

Yes to a mountaintop did a ritual and then howled and then they have it's been in the news that a lot of the liberal famous Liberal feminist in Austin go out and that's even in the news new rituals. I know it's so cute But then we talk about it and they call us kooks when they're even admitting it. Yes Francois Mitterrand A bunch of them how all right a bunch of how I would like to take us back to that episode where he was talking to The 30 year old who wouldn't leave his house It's a great idea to go out and howl at the moon remember when he was telling him Hey, have you ever taken off your shirt and run around on a mountaintop in a full moon? Yeah, howling. Yeah Well, he's a guy who won't leave his house these this is Francois Mitterrand. I mean a wrong everybody knows that Francois Mitterrand has

What what who is this guy? What what's he do? What are you talking about? What's he do Francois Mitterrand? Yeah, we'll get back to it. You're president of France. He was the president of France. He was oh man I need a little more information from Alex though before we get into because I need some specifics I know we mentioned the Louvre made Howling at the moon sure howling at the moon wrong song. He's gonna get into Ozzy Osbourne's bark at the moon. Ah, but that it's not as not as perfect as the phantagram. So true type in François Mitterrand Mitterrand

Louvre pyramid 666 With 666 pieces of glass and him doing rituals when it was completed right before he left the presidency before uh Jacques Chirac Okay, interesting So Are there 666 panes of glass in the Louvre? That's what most of Alex's claims come back to he's saying that that's an homage to the great beast Right, he ties this to france. Well Mitterrand just because Mitterrand was president of France at the time and how's it the moon sure And he'd been at the the pyramid was part of his uh Goran Projet's uh initiative

Where he was trying to create a bunch of modern uh tourist destinations somewhat He was trying to upgrade the city into being more of like, uh, a lot of people didn't like it and fair enough Yeah, because the pyramid does not match the old feel of the louvre. You know, you have the this giant, uh But anyway, it doesn't matter the louvre pyramid was designed by chinese born american architect ian pay And official schematics shows 603 diamond shaped panes of glass used as well as 70 triangular panes David Shugart's a guy who wrote three books about how the da Vinci code is real tried to disprove this number But he came away with counting six hundred eighty nine pieces of glass

Okay, so even the conspiracy guy didn't land on 666 right So wait, so the real number is 673 and he came away with six hundred and eighty nine Yeah, it's probably double counted. Yeah, it's weird to end up with more than what is official Well, it's really if you look at the uh, there's even a picture of the pyramid. It's really easy just to do math Yeah, you can just count them and uh, just add. Oh by uh by using geometry. Absolutely. You can just do that So you so it's it's it's pretty much how you would build one Unless there's like hidden there's like some hidden paint. It would have to be some are combined because all the numbers are over How could you hide any? I don't know

They'll never find these glass panes These ones you can see through So the 666 number is based on a mistake that was made in a tourism brochure That was put out while the pyramid was being constructed that did claim that the number of glass panes was 666 Unfortunately, the brochure also claimed that the number of glass panes was 672 at another point So it's really all over the place. Who really knows The reason that alex knows about this is not because an intern was drunk one morning Nope, it's not because of misprinted brochure or because france. Wah meter on is a well known satanist

Which he's not but because of the da Vinci code on page 21 of dan brown's fiction novel Robert Langdon the tom hanks roll says to himself quote this pyramid at france. Wah's meter on's explicit demand has been constructed with Exactly 666 panes of glass a bizarre request that had always been a really hot topic among conspiracy buffs who claimed 666 Was the number of satan this comes from the da Vinci code. God damn it. He thinks everything fake You know what? It makes sense because we're essentially being run by somebody who thinks that the world is national treasure So why not? I wish the world was national treasure Probably not the second one though cages cages top top 10 roll. Oh, I would say top 10 Top five. Oh, I don't know also

I need to air an apology that time that I was explaining that movie where the kids end up on another planet Yeah, and I thought it was 2012 or saying that yeah, it was knowing someone corrected me. I apologize about that I was deeply ashamed. I didn't know that I was gonna say I really don't think that they end up on a different planet on 2012 There was six episodes back that we uh correction from that one. Yeah So alex really just hates france. Wah meter on because he was the first socialist president of france And in his time in office he pushed things quite strongly to the left and made the left a legitimate workable political force in the country He pushed for the abolition of the death penalty and supported the 39 hour work week He welcomed the communist party of france into his cabinet, which is super taboo at the time

And he ushered in a very serious rise in the popularity of the french socialist party Which interestingly came almost directly at the expense of the communist party communist party's number is one way down socialist party went way up Right, they've gone down since then but you know, whatever the two french presidents after him were both literal criminals Jacques Charac was found guilty in 2011 of diverting public funds and abusing public confidence In march 2018 just very recently Nicholas Sarkozy was charged with bribery and accepting illegal campaign contributions Stemming from allegations that momar qaddafi gave him 50 million euros for his campaign in exchange for access and favors qaddafi's son saif islam qaddafi said quote we funded it and we have all the details and are ready to reveal everything

The first thing we want is this clown The first thing we want this clown to do is give the money back to the libyan people He was given assistance so that he could help them But he's disappointed us give us our money back after that france elected another socialist france was haland Who has at this point not been arrested so of the nor is he really that much of a socialist? But whatever you got four presidents there two of them are socialists two aren't the two socialists not in prison Two aren'ts. Let's be fair. Jacques Charac wasn't in prison either. You got a two year like uh Uh the amended sentence or whatever man, you get a 50 million euro loan or gift from the qaddafi's

And you don't stop and think I wonder if they have receipts on this I wonder if they're gonna blackmail me that seems so obvious right and that's even like not talking into Why are our leaders so dumb? Well, that's not even taking into account the other fucked up stuff in sarkozy's Yeah, yeah, you said that africa had not entered history yet and stuff like that. Whoa, it's coming. It's coming When when they get there. We'll put them in the box. He said a lot of really horrible stuff that people deem to be like, uh, Dude, you know that mic's on. Yeah Well, he's really short. So that doesn't count. So anyway, I he doesn't know microphones are always usually held above Where his head would be so he never knows if he's speaking into the microphone or not

I searched info wars. I searched prison planet. Yeah, I searched the internet high and low Trying to find evidence that france wa meter on Screamed at the moon held at the moon yelled at the moon right at the moon Any variation of this france wa meter on moon anything? I can find nothing. I also don't care if you yelled at the moon at some point You know, they don't even have one where he was being sarcastic at the moon. Oh, you're so big up there You think you're so great No, I think that counts as yelling at the moon. Yeah. Yeah. God damn it. Lumiere is the sun, right? No, that's just

character Fridge candlestick. Yes. Anyway Wait, so here's another question I have for you. Is it about Beauty and the Beast? Because if it's not, we gotta move on Why is his name also equivalent to his eventual Transformed state Like his name is Lumiere and he gets turned into a candlestick. That seems a little bit on the nose I would argue that those nicknames Came where they nicknames though. I can't imagine his given name is Lumiere

But that's what I think is going on. I don't know. I don't think either of us have done enough research to like that Will be our next episode go through all the names In Disney movies. Here's why Beauty and the Beast Pre-saged and predicted the era that we're living in now. All right. What is the witch? But not somebody who's asking our help. Immigrants. What are we but the Prince and we are turned into a beast by our treatment of the ignorance. This makes perfect sense That is why Trump is elected Beauty and the Beast is the greatest most

Uh prescient movie of our time and I don't know where it came from Must have been an original story that was written in the 90s for Disney. I assume that's correct, Dan Lumiere which translates from french as light is a man who was turned into a candelabra Featured as a supporting character in 1991's Beauty and the Beast Lumiere is a servant in the french. Yeah, it looks like it's his name Lumiere Son of a bitch it might as well be like they they named the one guy just clock But you don't know if his his name isn't just clock in friend. Yeah, well exactly I mean the only one that makes sense for me is chip because he was wait. He was chipped was chip born

Oh, no as a teacup. Oh, no chip is not old enough to have been alive at that time So we got miss pots. Yeah, she was the the pot again. She got turned into a teapot. Wow Yeah, this is too convenient Nominative determinism my friend very suspicious. A lot of people are like the clock was named Cogsworth. Yeah, exactly. There it is. There it is All right We gotta move along. Yeah. Yeah, this needs to I unfortunately don't know any german so I can't uh I can't really hot dog on this one turns out that this also Uh has to do uh, this is at the satanism streak. Yeah gets into germany, too

Oh, yeah, and the point is they're obsessed with all this. I mean, look the one of some of the best evidence is helman schmitt German chancellor not helman cole helman schmitt wrote men and powers A political retrospective or and then there he admits as a world government the belterberg group and trilateral commission run it But where a lot of stuff gets done. He says is In northern california to beheming grove where he said he loves to travel every year even before he was the german German chancellor And he says in there that they have their own ritualistic groves in germany in austria But it's favorite place to quote do the rituals. This is in my bohemian grove film dark secrets of bohemian grove

We show the book we zoom in on the text his favorite place to do rituals in northern california, mike Okay, great that that's very helpful. Those are the those are the instances. I was trying to think of All right, absolutely. Hey guys, go ahead and crank it up on here Hey He plays two minutes of bark of the moon does not comment over it is just please bark of the moon Crazy crazy, so do you know about helmhut schmitt? Um, I don't know anything. I know his name Probably does not mean helmet Uh, I know that schmitt is a very common name

So let's go with his name is helmhut schmitt That is what I know about helmhut schmitt Looks like you know a little more german than me I don't know So helmhut schmitt was the chancellor of the federal republic of germany from 1974 to 1982 in case those dates are confusing The federal republic of germany was west germany also known as non-soviet germany Oh, yeah, because that was before the berlin wall fell. You bet it was He was a member of the social democratic party. So another socialist leaning uh, uh

Person that alex can be mad at um, which is you know, you could that's suspicious kind of since the germ The nazis called themselves the national socialist also like in australia the the democratic party is actually the conservative So is you can never trust it whenever somebody co-ops the name socialist or social democrat That's true for the nazis. Yeah in this case. It's uh, super not. Uh, there's no connection because uh hitler outlawed the social democratic party in 1933 Leading to the deaths imprisonment and exile of their party leaders granted schmitt was a part a member of the hitler youth Okay, although he was thrown out for having anti-nazi views

So it's kind of that's it's a roller coaster there. Yeah, I don't know. Um Where are we? I'm gonna go with i'm neutral on this guy so far. Yeah, it's did he have what were his policies? Well, um, he wasn't terrible. Did he talk to any aliens? I don't think I don't know I can't speak to that. That's now a big part of my support for politicians My research did not dig up any of that but from everything I can read about him He seemed like kind of a decent guy. Well meaning dude, especially towards like the later years of his life It's really hard to say what you would have done in world war two if you were brought up in

Uh, nazi germany. No, I think it's pretty easy now. We know exactly what people were doing. We're living in nazi germany right now It's pretty easy. Well, sure sure I guess But his history is kind of hard to square with a saying like he's a great dude Because he did fight for nazi germany in world war two, right? I really don't have any interest in defending him necessarily for that He's very easy to attack on those merits like he was a nazi and he was a mason for sure Like if alex wants to dance on those things he could do it But none of the stuff that's like

Relative in his history that we would deem problematic None of that really matches up with any of alex's complaints. Yeah that he's he's trying to make when you look into Um helmut schmidt's connection with bohemian grove You'll inevitably turn up a washington post article from 1982 That very clearly lists tons of prominent business and political figures that vacation and congregate there long before alex quote exposed it Further it offers a this glimpse into what goes on the grove, which seems pretty upfront to me quote Today's grove schedule according to camp insiders has included a lakeside talk by fbi director william h webster followed by kissinger's talk An organ concert uh and a stage performance

Saturday offers ski shooting a hike to the river a band concert and low jinx review in which leading politicians and executives often sing and dance and drag Right, even that sort of aspect of it is all very clear and it's in the washington post in 1982 I don't like how our world leaders go to summer fantasy camp though. I'm not a fan of that You can not be a fan of it, but it's not like no it's not bad Or I mean it's bad, but it's not like sinister. Yeah, exactly. They just want to they just want to Skeet shoot and then later on have a weird gay orgy that they're not allowed to have You know, it might be bad in terms of the health of the Like the body world, you know, sure. Yeah, but it's not the actual activities. It's the secrecy and weirdness

Yeah, yeah, and the activities seem very benign for the most part if if not just sort of like Like how john ronson describes it. Yeah, like this is silly. Yeah, there's what are the you guys are adults Is doing yeah, and then just kind of laughable that people would spend their vacation that way but You know, whatever it it's it's what we see from alex over and over again We go back to that thing about tony blair if he had read the article and actually cited the article that's titled con man Attacks prime minister, you know, basically right on man right prime minister. It takes away a lot of his cachet So he takes his blurb from that article and pretends that it says a different thing than it does Yeah, does the same thing with bohemian grove you take this kernel of weirdness that arouses suspicion and takes it out of context

And now it's demons so Um When alex says the stuff about the grove He says the stuff about helmut schmidt talking about the groves in germany and how schmidt's favorite grove was bohemian What he's talking about there what he says there is literally quoting from his own script from his movie the dark secrets of It's not quoting some like primary source or anything like that. He's quoting his own documentary I didn't have the time or the money to order his book I didn't have time for this episode to read a 400 page book

But I did find some people who had read it And what they say is that they explained that schmidt did love coming to bohemian grove But the reason given is not because they do the ritual is great there It's because of the curious behavior of people like they're wearing polka dot pants instead of suits and stuff like that They're weird. That's not that's not in line with how west germans are having fun in the 80s That is such the german sense of humor is there like Oh, look, he's wearing crazy pants. Ah hilarious. These people are weird. I love it. No nazi jokes And then he very clearly also makes uh a point of

In the book of how why he loved it there so much as the natural beauty of the forest right and stuff like that Which is very easy to understand. He probably did howl at the moon though if he was going to bark at the moon Yeah, okay. Now. All right. All right. Also another thing that's very important to point out in the review that I uh found The guy who's talking about it says that he doesn't mention doing rituals there But I'm not positive about that because I like I said I haven't read the text but I would pause it That in the stand-up scene and like talking to people who are kind of more blowhardy They'll refer to going to open mics as a ritual or the really I've heard I've heard that that sucks, but you you've heard

I'm sure you've heard people not necessarily that specific example But you talk about like going out for a night of drinking like doing the old ritual or having a shot is the old ritual There's ways that people use the term ritual that isn't like some sort of satanic ritual Some people refer to cooking as a ritual. Yeah, you know, there's a ritualistic Action to it that the Japanese tea ceremony. Exactly. That's a ritual Exactly. There's hundreds and hundreds of things in life And so the idea of him being like if he described it as a ritual going to this Vacation spot right and also in the washington post article, which is really fucked up because it's really just about how helmut schmitt likes to vacation

But if you read it one of the things that he talks about in that article is that when he goes on vacation He doesn't want to go to places where people are Politicking and stuff like that right and so that feeds into what the original intent of bohemian grove was their their whole motto back when it was just artists and writers And bohemian was weaving spiders come not here the idea that like leave your business outside Yeah, and to some we're gonna fuck. So shut up. No ladies Only rules no women no reporters we're gonna fuck That's the implied third rule of the first two. Don't swing get out the fucker here. No snitch

No ladies So, I mean all this stuff to me is just like you've chosen these great like kernels of something that you can build fear off of But a closer analysis of them like I would much rather alex talk about the fact that Helmut schmitt was a nazi in world war two right because if he brought that up then he'd have to talk about his later career Why was he the chancellor of west germany instead of east germany? Why was he you know? Why did he not have any nazi inclinations in his later years? Yeah, why did he have a very documented history within the nazis of being

Not fully on board. Right. It's the same thing with france was meter on like if he wanted to talk about france Wa meter on about how he was part of the vishi government for a little while He could do that But if he talked about that then he'd have to talk about how That was only for a little while after he was a p.o.w. Yeah cop captured by the nazis He was a part of the vishi government and then became a rebel against the vishi government Right, so like you'd have to talk about like oh the end result There's a lot of nuance and he can't do that. Exactly. Yeah, I

Was looking into it. I'm like, man, there's a lot of meat here. I wish he was a good host Like I wish he was a good show because you could do a really interesting Deep dive probably into like the politics of meter on yeah, that would be have a pretty interesting talk or even helmut schmitt You know, that's an interesting question. We can't do that. No, no, no. I'm not talking about that I'm talking about uh helmut schmitt being in the nazi party, right? I don't know if he was in the party. Well, he's a soldier in the army, right? I think that's different Could you I know I think it's different too because would you think in like historically, you know, like uh 100 years from now if we still are uh capable of writing

Um Do you think people who fought in the american army would be considered just as evil as people who fought in the nazi army? Like what what is the war on iraq, but a concentrated murder, you know, I think that uh So I I mean we killed how many civilians in iraq like the tally is close to What like 30 million 300 million some crazy I don't know how you have that conversation imagining what the insight of the future will be Even though we're far away enough from the beginning of the iraq war to have a good bit of context Contexted insight. I don't know. I still think you err on the side of uh, not nazi

Well, no, I yeah, I think you err on the side of lenience towards the enlisted people Yeah, partially because and this was true A from classical times till now a lot of times the people who are enlisted are people who have no choice Yeah, not because they're forced to be in the army, but because economic circumstances the promise of free college All sorts of things lead people to join up and then when they're in you sign a contract that you're going to be In and if you're in country, it's not like you can be like guys. Can you fly me home? Yeah, or something like that. Yeah trapped in a situation where like you might die if you don't kill people Wrongly right, right, you know, right?

So I think you err on the side of not being able to fully understand the position that they're in Um until you can yeah when you do know like officers in the the nazi party People hire up who are like you fucking knew better right then you can make that claim And I I don't know exactly where the line is but there is a line There is a certain amount of the enlisted man is the gun not the guy firing it. Yes the the guy firing it is the colonel or Fucking cheney or whomever you want to go with you know The only thing that's wrong with that analogy is that there are some of your metaphorical guns that like to go

Exactly. No, I absolutely agree, but you err on the side. I think of of trust and faith That the individual is not bad. Yeah, you hope that Again until there's evidence of the contrary and from everything I can tell about helmut schmidt. He didn't end up like Being a nazi later in life or anything like that, right? It wasn't like he retained his nazi ideology It's just tough. It's just it'd be weird to be like a super progressive politician But in the in secret you're like, oh, I still hate the jews I'm gonna benefit them through policy action. I'm gonna make sure everybody has health care, but oh, I hate those jews So weird

I'm gonna become chancellor of west germany um Running for a party that was outlawed by hitler Killed all the officials. I'm gonna join that party Doesn't make sense for someone who's a nazi. Anyway No, this was this brings us to the end of our alex is stupid about spiritualist stuff chunk Right, that was really fun for me looking up that stuff I believe you it's also just fun to say france. Wah meet her on. Oh meet her on

Very good So, uh, where we last left off Like I can't tell you how crazy this is like he plays bark at the moon After this caller, right? Yeah, so he's talking to this caller and he's like does he play it again? No, he's like, hey turn that up. So they play bark at the Yeah, yeah Yeah, and it plays for like a minute And then it just abruptly goes to break and it's just like it's it goes from the feed cut off to hey

You need seeds like it just goes to a commercial like alex doesn't even throw it to commercial It's just bark at the moon until commercial and then it comes back Wait So the commercial is playing but in the background like alex's show They cut to commercial But alex's broadcast they were playing at the whole time. No. Oh, okay They broadcast the commercials and then after the commercials they come back with bark at the moon

Okay, but it's impossible. It was playing the whole time. It's not long. It's not long enough Okay, so I was really hoping that it was just playing the whole time and they just let it ride. Nope He restarts it. Uh, and we come back to him commercial break Oh, Tony Blair and the rest of them worship the devil But then people see things like Ozzy Osbourne that all turns into a big Joke and they love to claim they rise from the dead They love to claim that they live forever. They love to try to duplicate what christ did But it's all a counterfeit

And a fraud. No, you only live one life and all you satanists are going to die. Your bodies are going to fail And you will be judged Hey alex, what's baptism? Boy Well, I'll tell you right now. It's not a ritual Uh-huh rituals are evil. What is the ritual of baptism? What is it? I don't like you using that word What does it represent? I don't understand what you said. We birthed Dan it is a literal

Dunking and undunking of a person into water and that is it. It has no greater meaning It's definitely not a ritual of any kind Nobody does rituals in the christian faith. There are no rituals. I'll tell you right now when you eat that fucking cracker That's a goddamn cracker. We jinx that wine. You know what? It's not even wine anymore. It's fucking grape juice. It's blood Blood blood Look, I'm an enemy of the catholic church. Okay. That's I don't believe in transubstantiation. That's fair Um, so that's stupid. Uh, now let's move along to something else that's stupid Alex is now going to jump in and give a prediction about the dire economic straits that the world was in and then he plays

Some dire straits And it's all part of just the bad attitude the twisted mindset the loser Mindset that poisons and permeates so many layers of society So let's get focused and be men and women out there and realize we got the fight of our lives ahead This depression is going to get worse and worse and worse and it didn't And riots are going to break out in many areas and society is going to degenerate and the globalists are going to try to use that crisis To bring in a hardcore perfected tyranny that makes Stalinist russia and nazi germany Look tame in comparison and I know and I'm not just saying that I mean that

Okay So get your head screwed on in the right direction Okay All right, so alex's prediction about the uh, the financial situation as we know now From being in the present, uh, is flawed stupid. He's wrong slightly slightly. He's wrong. Uh, he's just he's just trying to sell gold A bit, uh, but it turns out his thoughts are also really terrible The congress has an 11 percent approval rating The only person that has a high approval rating is barack obama because he's seen as an outsider because the color of his skin

It's a branding bait and switch Very cruel hoax established when it's played I mean if we had the will That's not great I don't like the sound of that the only reason people like that president is because he's black moving on bait and switch I love how alex says stuff like uh, hey, you know, if you're against obama care, they say you're racist But no you said things like that. Yeah, you said things like that like oh

They only think he's an outsider and like him because of the color of his skin like That's invalidating everything that obama did that's invalidating every other reason the people liked him every other Like it's crazy I can't think of any other he takes all of the projections that people have of positive feelings and puts like no He's just black. He's like he's black. Yeah, that's Profoundly racist. Yeah, but that's well. I mean in a certain way He is making a perfect straw man argument The they say you're racist if you don't like obama's policies

Is the best straw man argument that you could possibly make no because it's great. It's fantastic. It's a great way to cover Uh, not engaging with obama's politics right also racism. Yeah, it's a good way to cover both of you get to dodge both Yeah, it's cool. Oh, it's good stuff. It's real cool People say you're racist for this and and the the part of the sentence that he mutters under his breath is When they should be saying i'm racist for this, right? Oh, I mean, uh, I cut that out cut that out No one has any clips of me being racist Um, so in this next clip we this is the last one from february 17th. We continue Alex is a really stupid brain saying really stupid things

I mean if we had the will to actually go up against the military We would trash them from one end to the other. We're not iraqis who historically aren't the best shots in the in the in the You know, uh field. I don't want that. I don't have some Cajones need to I can't wait to get a shooting war going but just like the patriot Which is based on a composite of true stories and real things that happen burning folks up in churches You all of it. What fuck people the government's going to kill people's children. They're going to kill the wrong people's children Okay, and then people are just going to go off and then the feds are going to go into bunker mentality and the local police You're not going to see them on the road. This is cowardice. The new world order's people are cowards. You want to comment on that?

Yeah, I do. I want to comment on your belief that you could beat the military the wrong people's children Yeah, that's a coded phrase. They're wrong people. They're going to hit I mean you have no idea how awful this thing is that i'm predicting they're going to hurt Your children and I know you're saying to yourself, but but but but but wait I'm white Right, this goes back to that revelation that I had much too much too delayed that all of his fears are they're going to do the thing I'm afraid of to white people. Yeah, that's exactly what he's saying. That's literally exactly what people's children Yeah, that's the coded message. He's giving to his audience. It's crazy. Yeah, that is an unfortunate thing though that

He thinks we can go up against the military. That's crazy the Literally strongest fighting force in the history of the world Capable of traversing the entire world Any time in a very short period the other thing I want to I want to drop in here real quick Um, I was having a little conversation the other day about how like why doesn't alex advocate violence? You know like it doesn't make sense You well, I mean he has Whenever he's it's indicative too drunk. Well, it's yeah, but then he mumbles

Yeah, yeah, but he uh, there's no reason for him not to If he really believes the things that he says Oh, yeah, violence is the answer. Yeah, there's no if you believe that abortion is murdered then the only option is Violence against people. I'm not even talking about that. He thinks they're demons Running the world right and somehow you having a radio show is going to stop these Demons literal deal that have supernatural powers right and shit like that. Do they also smell like sulfur? The only answer is kill these people, right? I mean that's crazy to me. Well, they're not human So they don't get the same protections, right? Silver bullets. Yeah

Well, that's the way you defeat our military. I don't know if you knew that or not That's the only way to defeat the united states. I don't know if you know this dead anderson as a new supply of silver bullets That uh, they're for sale Very exciting shipment just came in at mitis resources You have to hell at the moon first though, of course It just doesn't fucking make sense to me like I was really wrestling with this like if one believed the things that alex believes Literally, there's no reason for restraint. There's there's your life is worthless Your life is meaningless if there are demons running the world

And they are about to consolidate power and create a perfect tyranny dystopia. The only answer is make Terrorist cells make militias that will then become super violent. That's the only like logical outcome of this It's not an information war. You can't have an information war against the chute devil The literal devil does not care if you're lying about him Yes, it doesn't matter. But I mean there's a difference between Things that you say you believe in things that you actually believe like I I genuinely believe that climate change is going to fucking wreck the world In a lot shorter period of time like within the next 15 to 20 years

But you also know that killing a scientist isn't going to do anything. No, but but what I'm saying is Based on that belief I should be doing more to prepare Right, but I'm not really doing that. So maybe that's not maybe I don't actually believe it. Do you know what I'm saying? That's not true. I don't believe that at all. I think you're resigned to some extent. All right. That's a good point That's not that's a fair point like the you not getting water or living somewhere that's safe from flooding And is because my plan is to kill myself whenever it gets bad exactly me too That's why we don't have food in the home What would you do in a zombie apocalypse fucking blow my brains out? What are you talking about and we're broke?

Yeah, and I don't live for that. You know, I can't afford a gun now. What do you mean in the post apocalypse? I'm going to be able to afford one. I don't particularly live for the excitement of uh post apocalyptic scenarios Yeah, not really my things not really. I like podcasting. I I like indoor plumbing a lot. So good. So good Um, so no that is not the same thing at all. I think that your firmly held beliefs Are rational in terms of the climate change stuff and it's further rational to know that any lashing out Against some human is not going to do anything in order to help the goal that you're looking for right Whereas in terms of alex with his rhetoric that he puts forth like I don't know. I mean, he's not alive anymore. But like zabrigniew brzezinski is a monster is a demon

Who's controlling world politics if you kill him then he can't do that anymore. Yeah, so like there are rational Justifications based on alex's rhetoric for violence and the only explanation to be like don't do this Is because he knows he's full of shit and because he knows that he will be arrested. Yeah if people do that Yeah, I mean he doesn't literally yeah Yeah, so we're done with the 17th Now uh 17th has come and gone. Yeah, um, and now we go to the 18th and alex comes back with a bold claim And an absolute lie. Okay

So we're playing two treats in a lot And all the real money men they took all the money out We got word of this year before imploded and said in ron's of a money laundering operation on our cotex operation. It's gonna implode and then they Grabbed ken lay and then he had a heart attack right before he was about to go to prison Sure, he did And I've got confirmed sources that guy is still alive. He's done a pair away right now All right

So ken lay is in paraguay I did not know ken lay was in paraguay. Didn't know he faked his death. I there's a limerick there. It is There once was a lay in paraguay Who had uh, I don't know how to do I don't know how to make a limerick on the fly My friend did not have much to say he went down there Uh, he lost all his hair and now I hope he gets his blade I hope he ends up on showdown with bobby flay That's a miserable time trying to

Throw down with bobby flay. Not it is not okay to make jokes that are gay That's a limerick. No, um, so uh, no ken lay did not fake his death But the reason that people think that is really because he's such a con man Yeah, it's really unsatisfying that he didn't cheat death. Yeah, that's sort of like one of these things That's like is you want a better end to the story than right a heart attack right before Going to prison because you also want him to be punished for what he did It's just it's unsatisfying on every end But in America there are there is a sort of con man as folk hero kind of situation where you want him to get away

That last time you know what maybe No, no, you don't no, no, no, no, of course But that but if you're if you're doing the the con man as folk hero He's gotta he's got to have that last trick up asleep and then he and then he retires, you know The um, the thing is in his autopsy they found that he had evidence of a prior heart attack that had been unreported So his heart condition was bad to begin with. Yeah Um, it's the same thing with uh, france. Well meter on when he left office He ended up dying pretty shortly after from a cancer that he successfully hid

While he was in power because he didn't want it to be a part of anything Of course in terms of like public affairs and stuff like that which actually I think is really cool I think that's a great of him Uh, very selfless tough to do. I don't think you could pull that off now No, you probably could in the 80s, but not now Um, so no ken lay did not fake his death and further alex did not report a year before that enron Was a narcotics money laundering operation. Also, they weren't either of those, right? They were just Evil like they were just a a money moving scam. I wouldn't be surprised if like a they had a wing

I wouldn't be surprised in the old brick and mortar. There's a big money laundering Or they had some junior exec who was in narcotics Or they were so incompetent that they were just putting money into laundering machines They were yeah, they were one of the more corrupt things in the history of uh, american business and that's saying a lot There are a few things you could tell me about them. That's negative. Um, and connie that I would be like absolutely not. Yeah, that's unbelievable That's true. So I'll go ahead and give him You know what based on nothing I'll be like, all right, you can say that it's a narcotics Money laundering operation not gonna even care. Yeah, take it. I will stipulate that for your argument

But what I won't allow is you to pretend that you reported it a year before All right, I don't know if hitler kicked dogs, but judging by his track record. I'll let you say he kicked dogs Why not that stipulate? He's a dog. Yeah, he's he's already got a lot of crimes on his plate We don't need to worry about adding too many boys. That's the other um, sort of argument Hack that I'd like to give to people along with being able to just say I reject your premise We don't need to talk about this. The other one is fine. We'll stipulate that Let's move on like I don't want to talk about that I don't want to get into an argument about whether or not and ron did narcotics. They might have I don't know

I don't have a shit doesn't affect my opinion either way Accepted we'll put it on the board But that's that's one strike in a many strike column. So sure sure sure right It's just like yeah, he has pointless piece of information Let's pretend it's true. Sure. I use that trick so often with alex just like so often. I'm listening to it. I'm like cool I can't do a seven hour episode about this about the times you fly I'm gonna pretend you're not lying this time

Let's move along So earlier in the last episode alex made a claim about uh, people only like barack obama Because he is uh black and I don't think anybody really perceived him as an outsider, right? Um, I think that uh, I think that some people Well, there's a certain amount of like he came up from community organizing that kind of thing I suppose and I also think that the there is a fair amount of outsider-ness to him and not just based on his skin color. Yeah, that's uh, that's absurd and his relative lack of public

Uh, uh, his relative lack of public Entrenchment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know years in uh years in government Yeah, he was a state senator and then a senator and then the president But there wasn't really like a long track record of sort of an inside outsider. Yeah Insider whatever, you know, like whatever version of it you want. Yeah, if you want to say that he's a I don't I don't think anyone was making the argument that he's some sort of a rogue Who's gonna come in who has nothing to do with government, right? Alex would like to pretend that that's what the left believed right. I don't think people did right

I think I think that everyone had a pretty even handle on it that He's in the system, but he's also Um, he's certainly embodying fresher ideas. Yeah. Well, it's like you think, you know, bernie sanders You think of him as like a Coming he's like an outsider, but he's held public office for like 40 years. So, you know, he's a consummate insider Yeah, but also someone who seems to not care about being an insider And so he's not an insider in the same way that like a paul ryan is right, right? Anyway, who gives a shit a kowtow toady little bitch. Anyway, alex says some more bad stuff about obama here in this next

What? Obama isn't gonna have any lobbyist in there. You watch out. Just give the guy a chance. Just give the guy a chance He's right on that one. Sure. Gonna give him that one. Yeah, that one goes up on the board Oh, no, no, absolutely. But yeah, you're gonna have to chalk up every president for that. Yeah, including trump So yeah, it's sort of a weak argument. Yeah, we would love people to stand by their promises to not have any lobbyists around Probably not gonna happen unless you get money out of politics We're getting closer with a lot of these democratic socialists. They're doing a good job not taking uh dark money Right, but once they get in they're gonna have to enact rules that make it so other people

Can't do that because otherwise they'll just get voted out Next cycle or whatever whenever right comes in with uh mammoth amounts of money against them. Yeah And i'm going he's already appointing them. He's already saying who's gonna appoint before he's even sworn in Just give him a chance you racist It's you out there saying that though the races. I'm sick of all this race stuff. I'm so sick of it makes me head spin People the ones saying that was the chip on the shoulders most of them are white yuppies who are in this guilt religion anybody that didn't fall down and worship Barack Obama who by the way is Arab He's Arab. I'm not bashing Arabs. The point is the guys you are

10% african So we've got our first Arab president sure fine point is the new Arab president's a liar Sure. Yeah, his daddy's uh Was 80% uh north african You know from arabia muslim Arab Same thing sure sure

First Arab president dan the one whose dad is from north africa also at in 2009 I'm not sure what dad he's talking about. You know because he's had different. Oh, that's a good point because there's frank marshall davis He's thrown around a lot of fake debt rock obama senior. There's there's a bunch of other there's a bunch of options for dad So then he's accidentally saying that obama's dad is his dad. I don't know what he's saying But I do know that when he says his daddy that does not that's coded. Yeah, that's not something he would say about Paul ryan his daddy. Yeah is part swedish or something like that. Yeah, you would never say that about a white person That's uh, no, of course. He does. He says that about a white president all the time Trump's you know like trump's daddy was a

Trump's daddy and trump trump's daddy daddy was a member of the nazi party You know trump's daddy and his daddy's daddy are both really into eugenics. Yeah weird and so is trump So dude, that's just I mean, I don't I don't care to comment on that past just the playing of it That's gross. Yeah, and and whenever you get into like percentages of people to score points That usually means you care. Yeah, and I don't uh, I don't It's hard for me to hear that and listen to someone say i'm not being racist You know, it's hard for me to hear someone talk about percentages and be like, oh, yeah, you're a real chill You're real cool. Well, it's impossible for somebody to say

I'm not bashing Arabs, but there you have it. You have your first Arab president Who's a liar who's a liar like all Arabs are but i'm not bashing Arabs Muslims most Arabs same thing I mean if you get 23 and me back and you want to tell me percentages, that's not racist. That's just kind of fun But anyone else telling me percentages probably gonna be suspicious. You know what i'm saying? You know i'm saying you're digging me I've never asked and I don't care. I don't care about what percentages I am. I just don't care Who cares? I don't understand caring about it So, uh, this this next flip we get to a guest, but this is not the crazy guest Okay, this is a guest we've seen before I was gonna say you were teasing that crazy guest real hard and uh, I'm not seeing him

I fucking hope it pays off It's at the end of the episode it's the last thing we're gonna end up talking about for the most part But uh, this is a guy named glenn spencer. He showed up before he's a guy who Is really against immigration who he's very angry on alex's show. Yep. Yep He's a guy who's set up shop down by the border And he flies drones trying to take pictures of people crossing the border And then sends them to uh authorities and then they do nothing with that information because how could you? What an asshole? Yeah, that's just an asshole move. That's not even like that's just a dick move. He's a big old asshole

Yeah, yeah, he's uh, we talked about him in depth on a past episode. So we don't need to get into his whole bio I'd love to be able to tell you which episode that was. Yeah, no idea I think I think it was titled glenser. No, he is a glenser on the uh, the population though So one thing that's really interesting is to take these people and you realize that they're nothing without someone like alex Yeah, like they are doing their weirdo thing where they've like remote controlled drones around to try and harass Refugees and immigrants but without alex They don't have any real market penetration and it becomes very clear in this clip Yeah, because the people around them it look even if you agree with like

Ah illegals are coming into our country You're still gonna be like the guy who's flying drones is an asshole. He might feel it too much. Yeah. Yeah Um, so without without alex They're nothing isn't this Now look at my my site. I had 75 people online. Now. I got 217 You have a popular show We'll get a lot of that. We have millions of listeners great folks. You're too. Wow

so Multiple times he went from 70 people to 200 on the internet Have you ever heard of 200 people following you? Well, no, no, it's people who are on his website I guess he's looking at the live analytics or something like that. Okay, so like 130 people from alex's show have Checked over that's the presumption. He's made. Yeah Um, and alex there is also begrudgingly like you'll get a lot more than that. We have a lot of listeners Don't try and say we have a hundred listeners. Don't don't tell don't tell people don't use specific numbers Tell people that was only 130. Come on. I know you think it's exciting that you tripled your audience

But that's four guys act like you've been there. Yeah Like it's crazy because like it's revealing the limited grasp of alex's Reach because we all you also like so many times I've tracked like Things he's promoted like go fund me's and stuff like that. Like oh, they got 35 bucks and nine hours You know, like there's that there he doesn't really have as much of a galvanized active audience as he presents But people like Glenn Spencer have nobody and so they see this jump from alex and they're like Fuck. Yes. Three times throughout this interview. He's like you got a big audience And it's not like the normal buttering alex up and flattering him. It's very hazy. It's genuine excitement

It's almost surprised. They're like, oh, I'm talking to you. You have people who actually do things Which I think is almost cute if it wasn't a border race. It is kind of cute. Yeah On a human level, it's kind of like, uh, oh shucks So he talks about I have 200 followers on twitter. I don't even know 200 people in my life Oh, I had it So I don't want to talk too much about what they're I don't care They they have an interview mostly about how, um, they're lying about building a border fence and stuff like that That's mostly what the the meat of the interview is about

But I think other things that come up are much more important like this where glenn spencer accidentally Shows too many cards about what his actual game is And I can't get arrested We've been flying the border for over two years and posting our results and and challenging the dhs I held a press conference in the national press club on january 15 Spent almost 10,000 dollars setting this all up. You know how many people showed up in the media? Nobody Fuck you asshole Suck it

You rent it out the press club and no one came Yay Who cares go fuck yourself. Um, but also like what he said there at the beginning. I can't get arrested It's because he's trying to get punished All of these people are trying to get punished to validate their victim status. Oh, he's trying to get arrested I thought he was trying to get arrested I don't think like I thought that's what he meant where it's like I've been giving out all of this information and they're not actioning on it

No, I think he's talking about agitating and flying around the border And like proving them wrong and coming at them and no one will arrest him for whatever Okay, sure for his uh for his activities Sure, that makes as much sense as anything else from the context from listening to the episode what I took away from it Although I would say that you're From other his last interview and what he's about big picture. I can't get arrests also make sense Yeah, I think what he's talking about is no one will fuck with me Right

I keep trying to fuck with them in order to get a response out of them to validate my fucking with them And no one will fuck with me. Everyone just keeps ignoring me. I think that's what he's saying Yeah, that's what I took from more of the context clues Well, that does make more sense in the context of him being like, well now 300 people Well, 200 people are listening to me. Well, and it's the same thing with on our last episode from the present day Where you had that Logan Robertson preacher who decided to not Challenge his own deportation. Yeah, because he loves the idea idea of being attacked Yeah, all of these people desperately need to be attacked or else they have nothing right and I know it's I know it's

The wrong thing to say like you got proud boys coming out or like you got fascists marching go give them a hug Yeah, I'm not fucking saying that but if everyone did they'd be screwed I'm not I'm not I don't think you should do that There are many other ways to screw them that would be far more satisfying No, totally and I don't think the reality of the world lends itself to a point especially now where It's in any way reasonable to not respond to people's rhetoric It's time But in a perfect world you could just end up being like

Man, you do you yeah, you do you Whatever like like in the blues brothers world of the cops protecting the nazis and everybody's just kind of like Everybody's yelling him and everybody else is like a fucking come on nazis What are you guys doing in a perfect world? All of this could be destroyed by everyone just being like hey, am I cute? But but the problem is it's never just words and it's never just rhetoric. Oh, you guys are racist Go fuck yourselves. Yep. The problem is that other people people get hurt as you as you hug nazis Other people get hurt and charlotte's filled their driving cars into you. Oh man. Can't wait for that next to unite the right rally

Yeah, no good Yeah, it's gonna be like 10 people there. That's my prediction Still want to light them up. It's gonna be boston all over again. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, so look I think that this glen spencer is presenting himself as a very desperate thirsty fuck So far in this episode and it would be like if that was it I would have just ignored this Yeah, I always been like fuck this. It's uh, it's a waste of a guest Who cares but then they get into this and this is like this is just gross

And if if there is a complete upheaval in mexico and I wouldn't be surprised if it was being orchestrated by their government Then they're going to push millions of people across the border And we down here are going to be in a world at trouble A lot of people but that's not going to stop here It's going to come north And you've got a lot of very vicious people Who wouldn't think twice about blowing your head off?

Well, that's the other issue is that they can use any name they want the mexican consulates They'll give them as many fake ideas as they want that the u.s. government accepts that for welfare I mean this Literally every criminal that lives in mexico is on their way here I can't even fathom the number of lies and racist Images that were just spelled out there. I mean the biggest crazy one is

The mexican consulate will just give out as many fake ideas as you want like you're you're some guy who lives in mexico You wander the boat the consulate like I want seven fake IDs Give me seven different names Sir, it's only two at a time Unless you have somebody else with a fake ID on them already and then three and then you can get another one Yeah, you can only double fist beers or if you have a coupon, sir It is not 10 cent ID night. All right, that's crazy. If you have a coupon That's crazy, man

The the level that alex like spreads this distrust of like all these other countries that aren't america Their governments are all uh jukuki backwards land as if they aren't Well, also governments what I don't like if if mexico and their consulates behaved that way Yeah, there's no way they would be a country right now There's no way that like mexico city is one of the biggest cities in the fucking world Yeah, it's not like it is not a hovel. It's not like some sort like we have alex is trying to present this image That like all mexico is burning basically it's not they all live in huts Like what are you talking about you go from your hut to the consulate which is just a bigger hut

Yeah, and there's a guy with a hut with two rooms and one of the rooms has an id machine And they just make you up a hundred IDs you can cross the but the the machine is made out of straw Across the border and then you get all the welfare you want which is also the next lie which is complete bullshit You can't get welfare which we've documented if you immigrate legally if you come illegally you can't at all Then the next lie is Well, I mean it's more just the fear that glenn spencer is putting forth like they won't think to blow your fucking head off And hey, it's not just down here. They're coming north again You midwestern whites get scared now. Yeah, because later it's going to be too late

There's vicious people who are coming to blow your head off. What bothers me. It's crazy forever about these people Especially that he is even if he's saying Even if what he's saying is true, right the government is orchestrating it So these people hate living in mexico to and make them leave, right? Right like he's they're causing unrest That is part of this theory, right? So That means the people who are leaving are trying to escape From unrest and go to a place. They're not trying to cause unrest or be part of it They're escaping from it. You are not getting the people who are

Trying to murder people. You're getting people who are fucked over and they're trying to escape Oh, we can't accept syrian refugees. They're being murdered They're not running away from their homes because they're trying to fuck up somebody else's home They're running away from their homes because their home is now a pile of rubble because their government is murdering them We should accept people who are escaping from murderous governments Generally speaking the people who like doing the murdering and all that when murdering becomes in vogue They love sticking around because they get to still murder or they create like a gang and get like a segment of town that's now their property

Yeah, exactly when shit gets illegal criminals go pro, you know, like that's Right, they don't generally flee. Why would they come to america? It's harder to commit the murders you want to commit here right stick where it's cool to commit all your murders So that's a failing of their logic. Yeah, but again, it doesn't matter. It's all about cruelty. It's not about yeah It is about cruelty. Anyway, um now and who better to be cruel to than people who have nowhere else to turn Exactly. Yeah, it's like the shooting fish in a barrel of cruelty. Yeah, and that's what these Razors do all the time. Yeah, so goodbye glenn spencer. I hope you don't come back I know you're dead now and I don't feel bad about it. Nope in this next clip. Alex is stupid

Every video game every tv show, you know spongebob everything now It's in viral cops. It's you know go out and kill co2 monsters Uh, it's just total brainwashing You cannot let your children watch tv or go to public school or they will be taken away from you psychologically or maybe physically wow Don't go to school. Don't watch tv or your kids are gone. Don't engage with the outside world at all Just listen to my show. Also. There's some like one of my one of the

Super nintendo games. I really liked was zombies eight my neighbors I remember that I think there were some toxic waste monsters in that. I don't think this is anything new I don't I don't think this is now. Well, then again, we've known about climate change since the 70s, so Or or at least exxon mobile has hey, everybody. We're we're doing great. Hey capitalism is a great system Um, yeah, so that's a lot of I mean that that sort of fear is so scary to me the idea of like You can't trust anything anyone your family. They don't respect you the tv It's lying to you if you go to school. They're gonna take your kids away and they're gonna indoctrinate. Yeah, exactly And then they're gonna come home to you saying words like diversity

Diversity dan, do you even know what that word means white genocide? It has two meanings white genocide and we cannot have words That have more than one meaning. That's the one truth of the post a What inclusive world? I guess yeah, so in this next rep alex makes um a bold scary claim Um, and it's something he said before but I didn't properly explain it the last time he did But now I can Now they've militarized the police. They've shut up north com and there's they have taken over Congress was threatened with martial law if they didn't pass the banker bailout bill

I don't think that's just the thing though. It's not because there's always people people are always going to be the problem That's when population control is going to come into play and I haven't heard you talk too much on that Really? I'm covering up population control Didn't I didn't know that No, they They want to kill most of us. It's not all of us. I didn't know that I I had you know, I'm actually covering that up I mean you say you I mean are you really a listener? You haven't heard me talk about that every hour every day

That's a fair point alex nice alex that color's an idiot. Yeah that color is a I'm on alex's tie down here. I don't like being on alex's side But I'm gonna get I'm gonna give it to him this time this takes him into a very weird mood I just like I kept that last part in because it's always fun when there's a real rank idiot Yeah, um, but it's a weird mood because he just realized that even his listeners don't listen to him Well, that's a that's a that's a late motif of his show where you have just like Frustration with the audience where you assume that they're either like fucking with you or Or they're working for the globalists. Right. It's like no, you've trained a dumb audience

Yeah, you have you've created non-critical thinkers and uh The thing that I wanted to point out though is this um, martial law in congress It came up before and I was like, I don't this is fucking stupid I don't know what he's talking about and I I looked into it more after the fact because I was I was very curious about it And what I what I was able to find out is a very clear explanation of this And in congress martial law does not mean the same thing as martial law when alex talks about it He knows this it means they let third good martial run things for a while That would be that would be fun. That would be a fun martial law different spelling of martial law

That would have been a great tv show while he was a supreme court justice But alex knows better and he's acting super irresponsibly whenever he on his show where he talks about the fear of martial law Saying congress is under martial law is uh, that's a huge lie by omission not explaining what that means So there's a process that happens not so infrequently in congress called martial law As described by the hill quote the use of martial law refers to bypassing the typical procedure that requires the house To wait a day after the rules committee produces a rule establishing floor debate parameters before voting It's often enacted when there's a congressional break that's imminent and legislation is time sensitive So congress people don't miss their vacations

It's a very regular thing that happens quite a bit in september 2015 The house invoked martial law twice in that same month in attempts to avert a government shutdown over a spending bill In march 2017 martial law was invoked by the gop hoping to dismantle the affordable care act That one was less about vacation and more about the fact that if they didn't force a vote where the reps Didn't have a chance to read the legislation They'd likely not improve from where they were initially with 32 no votes on the republican side of the aisle Martial law is a procedure in the house and in the senate that is done from time to time for strategic reasons It just has the same name as alex jones's biggest fear. I did not know that I didn't know until I looked into it either

It's that's really interesting. I would have named it different if I were up if it were up to me Why do people always name things badly because alex jones can say that congress is threatened with martial law And it sounds like then there's going to be armed guards everywhere putting a gun to the head of all the senators Oh, yeah like that. That's the image that comes up in your head or just sort of like Um, you know, whatever dictatorial control right over the senate and the reality It's just um people trying to be like we're not gonna wait to vote on this See, this is another situation where words can mean two different things at the same time and this blows their fucking mind It's interesting that the one abusing it in this case is him

Seems to be all the times they complained about some x y or z thing the person on the wrong side of it is them Yeah, so I don't I don't I don't sit here and pretend to say that the democrats or the left hasn't misused the idea of martial law and congress in the past Of course, they fucking have yeah, everybody has and I think it's even abusing it to say, uh, you know Like we want to go on vacation, but this bill's got to pass. Let's push it Yeah, like that sort of thing But that is what martial law in the house and in the senate means gotcha It's abusive that alex is using it as some sort of a buzzword On his show he needs to explain every time what it means

Because martial law is such a piece of the property that he's yanked out Yeah, it's such a part of the paranoia and the propaganda that he puts out He's made multiple documentaries about martial law being on the streets Yeah, and stuff like that to the point where anytime he brings it up on the show It's code the audience knows what he's talking about from police state right documentaries and stuff like that So to me, this is one of the most unfair things he does. It's it's so abusive to his audience Yeah, I I just dismissed it out of hand because that's stupid the idea that congress was threatened with martial law Now that I know it's actually a thing

I'm like, oh Okay, that's that's fine. Yeah, I think I think the first time we went over it when he brought it up That's our take on it was we were operating off believing like he was talking about martial law Martial law as opposed to the house rule. Yeah, so whatever man, you guys we got to get better at naming shit Yeah, conspiracy theorists are always we're just making it too easy make them work hard for it Yeah, they're able to just do a layup Yeah, don't call your fucking telescope the lucifer god damn it guys again. I understand that that just that's just good fun It is good fun

But you just got to think for two seconds like oh people are gonna be stupid about this because guess what people are Fucking stupid. It's the problem people have that like when you don't have ill will and you're just trying to live your life It it seems unnecessary to war games things. Yeah Think that's true. What are crazy people going to think if I do this? Yeah, you know It's not it's not a fun way to go about your life Not only playing defense against crazies and uh, you know at the same time There's no way to plan for irrational actors if you're a rational person. It's true So it doesn't matter what you do. They're gonna be crazy no matter what feelings of game theory. Yeah, one of the failings of alex

Nice transition. Thanks is that his listeners are stupid as evidenced by that last caller where this next clip is going to start Up where he's lashing out at that last caller. Yeah, um, and alex revealed something that is incredibly fucked up You know, I only got about three hours sleep and I'm four less and I got home last night. I went to bed right at 10 And then somebody comes knocking on the door want to talk to alex jones don't come to my house anybody When I'm there with my family or I'm sleeping And then that was upsetting and I had trouble getting to sleep and I am literally Dizzy right now with fatigue When I work this much

For several months straight My vision starts getting blurred. I'm working so hard that my vision blurs sometimes and then you call me You lazy little creature and you tell me I think he needs a nap alex needs a nap alex are you a little cranky alex a little cranky at the same time He's responding to that caller who's like you never bring up population control. Yeah fair. Yeah that guy. Yeah off alex Enjoy, I don't mind him yelling at that dude

But it's super fucked up that he's like I didn't sleep the night before because I was on coast to coast And then I tried to go to bed and some fucking listeners showed up at my house Like that's fucked up. Yeah, that is really really fucked up. Yeah, you should not show up at anybody's house You should know of course. Yeah, but alex creates the sort of atmosphere where it's like, yeah, let's go fucking find him Right, you know, like he's a urban legend that that sort of thing is like he's the sasquatch Let's go knock on sasquatch's door. That would be fun though. I mean, I don't like I get it We drove past in for our studios on that same sort of like Yeah, like we were ever gonna knock on the door, but it was that sort of same like almost pilgrimagey aspect of like

Let's go get into his space. I am a little disappointed. We didn't leave a flaming back of dog shit or something like that We didn't have any dog. No, that's true Um, so I don't not with us. I don't mean it's fucked up. It's fucked up that your audience would do that It's fucked up that you had to go through that and I kind of empathize a little bit because like Even if you are the person who is creating that vibe I still as a human I'm like, man, that's gotta suck. That's gotta suck. Yeah, I agree. But at the same time I'm you know Scott Pruitt's door should always be knocked on the moment. He's about to sleep. He should be driven insane

By one single not every time his eyes close just enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I don't I don't disagree in terms of what one deserves But I'm just saying as a human I look at that and like I agree sucks my empathy goes out the window when you remember like on our last 2009 episode him telling people that like Your family doesn't respect you. Yeah, so like I my so who else do they have to go to trust me? My empathy is thin But it scares me the idea of like anybody showing up at someone's door Just because of the potential for something to go wrong Some misunderstanding his wife and kids are there, you know, like there's just too much that's like that that to me

I get really like that's a horror movie. Yeah, what he's describing Yeah, I'm alex jones. Someone who likes me knocks on my door. Yeah, that's a fucking horror movie Right, right because you've cultivated people who are going to murder you. Well, you I mean, that's a baseline. Yeah, exactly That's a good okay How Legally actionable is this we get a team of people roughly 24 everybody every hour

Knocks on Scott Pruitt's door everybody gets their own hour Everybody has to knock like two or three times. I think then they run away I think it's not a terrible plan, but because we're talking about it on air. It's a problem, right? No, I know But i'm just saying like is is that illegal? I guess that's like a nuisance, but it's illegal individually for them because of like private property probably Okay, and then it's illegal for us because then it would be like conspiracy harassment It would be like targeted harassment Okay, because we're organizing right. That's our problem. Right. We should we should not be doing this publicly

What we should do is go to this or go to our facebook where alex jones Brings in The arch weirdo. Okay, the guest now. I'm excited guests. We've all been waiting for now. I'm excited. Uh, very exciting to hear about this guy We're about to go to lindsay. I just want to preface all of this Lindsay comes on here when oil is 147 plus dollars a barrel and he says within six months It'll be below 50 All right now except no one could have imagined that but it came directly from top oil exec

And it's on record. It's like they were manipulating it now Right after the time lindsay told me this I have family in east texas and in houston who are all in oil And daddy We've been waiting with bated breath with some family land We got because the gas wells and oil wells never get built down towards where our properties that were always wow That'd be great if that ever happened to us and it stopped Now they're you know back running around but the whole point is is that the inside scoop from oil companies was And I even had dinner one time at my dad's house

Uh, and there was a oil company owner But one of the thousands of small ones who was there and he was saying and this is about six months ago That yeah, they're planning to drop the price So this is after lindsay tells me this I start putting feelers out in the kind of mid-level Because I mean oil is the biggest industry here in texas bigger than telecommunications bigger than computers Okay, so the guest who is the complete weirdo all of which are Uh Connected to ross perot strangely enough weird. Um, there's a guest who's named

Pastor lindsay williams who is going to be on the show I don't like it when you say pastor and they are on info wars. That's not gonna bode well Always indicative that their faith is secondary to something else. Oh, yeah So we'll get into his weird predictions and his stupidity here in a few but I want to say Um, I was able to find a website that Is a catalog of people's mineral rights because all of that's very public information Yeah, you can find this information david jones owns a number of different oil

Plots well, of course david bowie owns a lot of oil not david bowie. Oh not david bowie david jones alex's dad Oh, okay. That's so a different david jones. He owns a number of oil claims in uh, throughout, uh, The area of texas that alex is describing. Huh, so one of the things is that uh on those Uh areas like whenever you have something like this, you don't necessarily own the land you own a claim To what's under the land right and people share those like it's all split up between. Yeah x y and z people And uh, one of the things that I want to point out very clearly is that um, I drink your milkshake Someone's drinking somebody's milkshake, but uh in in 2008 In 2009 there's an artificial inflation of oil prices right a lot of this is done because of uh panics

That have happened around the world strikes, uh in uh, uh in ireland right you discussed in the past Uh fear of things collapsing in the middle east. There's venezuela. Yep There's all sorts of reasons that uh all sort of came together at exactly the same time and led to a hyperinflation of the price of oil It lasted throughout a bit like almost the year of 2008 and then the bottom fell out So in uh the beginning of 2008 the oil holdings Estimated revenue on a monthly basis that alex's dad would have been taking in from the uh, the plots of land that he had a claim on Were 55,242 dollars monthly monthly gotcha monthly

55,000 dollars Just from the ownership of the oil right not he doesn't have to extract it at all Someone else does all that just he just gets 600 grand for free every year. Yep. There's the contracts Uh, that that's who he's getting it from is from the people who are taking it out Yes to begin with. Yeah, exactly. Probably that small oil company owner who's coming to dinner that alex is describing Right, so now if you go a little bit further and you get into where we are in 2009 end of uh 2008 you see that alex jones's dad's holdings are Probably only worth about 10,000 a month. Oh

So you go from 55,000 down to around 10,000 and like as it goes on it's even worse But the reality is that was the hit that comes from the price of oil Yeah normalizing. Yeah back down to and great did when it fell it fell to a lower level than it was before But they're pretending this $140 a barrel oil is normal. That's the hyper way up level because of all the geopolitical fears It came down to like 30 something and then rebounded to you know, right more normal level, right? Um It before that wasn't it was only at like 60, you know, like if you're talking about 60 to 30, that's still You know a 50 drop. Yeah, that could be what you want to talk about

But instead they use the 140 hyper and course number from only six nine months earlier But it's super interesting to me that that discretionary income In the jones family disappears right around the time. It's very mysterious He might need money. It's very mysterious and i'm only bringing somebody who has a lot of money might need a propagandist I'm only bringing this up because Uh, he brought this up, you know He brought up his dad's involvement and all that shit. So, uh, that's the only it's

It's relevant this information that I found It's weird. I mean like I don't know what, uh, you know I don't know what it means necessarily but I don't know. I think the dude like I don't get I don't like I don't have a radio studio that my parents are providing or anything like that, right? But I do think that Your family's life would change if you lost $40,000 a month Yeah in in just random income, right, you know, like I don't think that that's irrelevant at all

Like that's huge. Yeah, that because his dad is still a dentist Because dad has his job job like his life job and then just because of the shit he owns He's getting $55,000 a month. Yeah, I mean at the same time though. It was a One time it was like a massive windfall that you couldn't really budget for so unless they went wild on spending for a year Which is entirely possible if you have a half a million dollars that you weren't expecting showing right around when alex change studios Oh boy, um, that's not good But also like that says overhead got a little bit harder to afford very quickly But they're also like if you look at what happened before that huge spike in oil prices

They were still under $20,000 a month that was coming in like it went up in 2006 to peak just over the $20,000 a month mark for his holdings And then it was sort of leveling around there, you know, it was leveling around there in the high tens Just south of 20,000 then you bump it up to 55,000 you all of a sudden have 30,000 35,000 extra dollars a month. Yeah So either you budget that and plan for it to drop down again, which it would you have to assume it would Or you go apeshit crazy and buy yourself a new studio, right? And I don't know if his dad is necessarily budgeted all of this and become like, uh Super thrifty. I'm gonna live out the rest of my days considering he's now the hr representative for yeah fair enough

You know, like I think his dad might be so much more invested in this company than Yeah, anyone is really dealing with. Yeah, I think he might be a part of it. Yeah, so I don't know Huh, I don't know. I think that huh. I think that is uh, he's accidentally revealed Well, he didn't reveal it. I looked that up. Yeah, but he's accidentally opened that can of worms To look at like oh interesting interesting that you for a year had a Giant amount of money coming into your family that wasn't there before and then after that You're

Getting into a position where maybe some of your narratives change. Yeah curious. Yeah, not saying I'm just saying yeah Anyway, Lindsay Williams. Yes He is a pastor. He comes in and is he though I think he is I don't know that this isn't one of those that I decided I was gonna like call the baptist church and find out Okay, okay. I don't care because he's apparently been a like a preacher for decades. Okay, so I don't I don't know I'm more concerned with him being just a like outright liar Um, but he's good at one thing Flattering Alex

This is all planned by the elite Let me assure everyone out there in alex jones audience in info wars folks Everything you are hearing alex jones say is true Believe every word you hear every day. It may sound That is bad advice. It's very bad. That is bad advice. Right, but just just even if you're not talking about info wars Right, but he would never say to anybody believe every single thing every single day. He knows the scam It's very it's very clear that's a good scam. He knows how to get alex jones to like not question his shit Just flatter a bunch

So lindsay williams, uh, i'm just gonna flesh this out as best I can because I don't think he spells this out in any Of these clips, uh, he claims that he went to alaska in 1971 Three years later the transit laska trans alaska pipeline was beginning construction and quote out of concern for the spiritual welfare of the Pipeliners he volunteered to be the chaplain of the pipeline He claims that because of being a volunteer chaplain, he was granted quote executive status with the oil company Welcome to secret meetings Gained access to all sorts of information. They were keeping secret from the world. Hold on. Yeah, exactly wait That's red flags. Stop. Stop your story before you begin. Yeah, what do you want to know?

What are you questioning? Is this standard practice To bring the chaplain into hey, we're fucking over the world meetings. Yes. I feel like it's a bad move I feel like I feel like you're if you're a shady executive you probably be like hey that guy likes god He's probably gonna have a higher power than money. Let's not bring him into our fucking secret meetings now Other side of that question If you are an executive chances are you looked at that guy and you were like Oh, i'm scamming like you maybe you should join my scam and then we'll all scam together

Who knows if he had that same energy in 71? Oh, that's true. That's true so That to me like I know your response was 100 right that story doesn't pass the smell test in any way The first of all, I don't know why you're like, oh, there's a pipeline. They need a chaplain Okay, all right Well, you know what's strange enough that one makes the most sense at least it does make the most sense But preachers love to chaplain shit only because the rest of it is such bullshit It only makes sense because the rest of it like what?

Like that that's like, all right. There's people there you want to preach Okay, great. Now you're the chaplain because nobody said it's not an elected position if you're the volunteer chaplain No, and I don't know how the volunteer chaplain gets executive status. He's a he's a man of god You got to have a man of god in there whenever you're building pipelines dan so I watched a Hour and a half dvd that he put out where he was telling his story And it's swiss cheese, baby. There is just holes everywhere like this. There's just like, what are you what? Why why okay, so

Your chaplain they let you into the secret meeting. I don't believe that right no number two. That's 1974 that you're doing that What did they let you in on and why the 70s they let everybody into those secret executive meetings at the time They didn't wear shoes. It was a whole thing. So that was for a little while Right. Do you was doing that? Yeah, that certainly didn't continue until present day. So where's your information coming from? Right, it's not from those people in the 70s that let you into the boardroom All all that could have possibly happened back then as you heard about scams that they were doing and you didn't tell anybody So that's on you. That's on you. That is kind of on him, right? So all you can do unless they left a detailed plan

Okay, all he can do at this point From that time Is say all the things that did happen and say that he knew about it ahead of time There we go. The the sort of post x post facto propaganda. Has it worked? Yeah You're like, oh, I knew about that at the time this guy at that meeting told me about it And as we go along that's all this guy's got that is all he has It's just talking about things that have already happened and been like, oh, yeah, someone told me about that I knew about that. I had a high level insider source. Love it. Yeah. So in this next clip, uh, he's going to talk

Uh, I believe about the predictions for america They have planned this thing worldwide in order to do what they wish to accomplish now Let me tell you what's going to happen in america. I do want to out what is happening right today Now folks watch this. I hope you have pencil and paper and you're taking notes. This man said to me This person who knows everything 82 years of age three globalist everything the elite are doing He said to me after I've been threatened and and and I agreed to go along with what he said And there's certain things I couldn't even say on alex jones show today in order to keep the sanity of my household Soft rice and hard rice baby and keep myself

In keeping their word. He said to me. He said lindsay I'll they call me chaplain. He said america will see a financial collapse It will be so great that it will take years to come out of it at that time. We didn't have the bank crisis We didn't have the real estate crisis. We didn't have the big bailout packages We've got right now. He told it all to me ahead of time because they had it planned Exactly as you've been hearing alex jones say on his program day after day after day folks I wish I could shout it into everyone of your homes today Believe everything you are hearing alex jones say even if you have trouble believing if you believe it anyway

That's a man of god right there Hey, even if you don't even if you do even if it doesn't pass the spell test believe it just believe it I know that I know that I know baby. Just believe it. So I mean you're here you're here in this So he takes some notes. He's hearing this plan in 71 no to 74 No, that's when he would know 71 is when he showed up in alaska 74 is when he started chaplining at this Pipeline, okay, and that went on for a couple years. Okay, so he was out by 80 right, okay So he knows though. It's because of that information. Nope Oh, so he's got different information. He knows a guy. He knows a guy

He said he's 82 years old some guy who's 82 years old He has an inside elite source Uh-huh that he talked to another chaplet So he claims that he has a secret of insider source who told him about the 2008 2009 crash that it was gonna happen before it Did the problem with his prediction is the same with all of his and all of alex's prognosticators All of his guests which is that they are doing what they're doing is seeing something happen Then claiming they were told it was going to happen by an inside source before it did It's the easiest fucking con in the game and honestly

It's embarrassing and only made worse by the fact that almost all of this guy is not so vague They become meaningless predictions like there's going to be trouble in the middle east That's a good one though those sort of predictions. Everything else has been utter shit He claimed that the devil's messiah was supposed to show up in 2012 The dollar was supposed to have collapsed a number of times by now or what he has called a quote global currency reset So many bad currency they they turned it off and on again. Yeah, yeah Modem that's a smart move is so many bad predictions about silver and gold prices, which he also is pushing As well as oil prices

He's just been wrong about almost every specific that he's ever thrown out But he's talking about this because he's got it from this inside source It's fun when they start to believe their own bullshit and they make specific predictions Like that's my favorite part whenever they reveal how stupid they are where it's like Oh, shit. I am getting all of these things right forgetting that they're saying it after it's already happened So they're like, well now I can throw around predictions willy-nilly. That's where the problem comes Yeah, because also the issue is that Based on his narrative

He was you know with the elites and the oil company and that shit in the 70s And then now he has this insider source who's telling him things that are going to happen. Yeah, they should never be wrong He's not guessing You know based on his narrative. He's not guessing right It's not really a prediction so much as it is revelation. Yes, he's whistleblowing. Yeah Yeah whistleblowing is a great way of putting it. That's what he pretends. He's doing So there there's trouble there his whole I mean even So the the idea that he was the chaplain there and he became an executive and then was in meetings and stuff bullshit

That's crazy. Then you have this insider. Isn't that the plateau of michael j fox movie the secret to my success? Probably. Yeah, then the other part. I've got this insider source who's telling me all this stuff. That's bullshit All of this is bullshit. Right anybody who's not like Using him for their own goals, right like alex probably is would be like dude Stop it. This is crazy. So he gives it to this next clip and this I think is hilarious The average american didn't have the slightest idea now jot down two words for me number one is tax structure That's two words off the price of crude oil going from 147 dollars a barrel to

30 Let's say 33 dollars made a sense of barrel yesterday morning at the gas pump It went down from four to five dollars a gallon to a dollar and 50 cents a gallon in some states went down as low as a dollar 30 cents a gallon So he's gonna ramble but just keep in mind so keep in mind write down these two words tax structure one Tax structure. He doesn't get to the second one. I think it's I think it's probably just those two Okay, but like the the thing is like it's not like gas has been 140 dollars a barrel for More than a like a few months. Yeah. It's been it's been months that it's been that it's not like

Oh, no, what do we ever do now that it's down? Yeah not Anyway, and then one east coast state as a result of that the federal government the states And others have lost three fourths 75 percent or more of their tax base Now that he's pretending that all taxes come from oil which is not Accurate at all. So he's saying that because oil specifically. Yes went from 130 dollars a barrel down to 40 That means that the entire tax system lost 75 75 percent of its tax base, which is ludicrous. All right Yes

Now that doesn't show up for two to three months now They come out with a stimulus package on yesterday to listen to this I was just reading over all of the money that would be given away in Denver. They're going to Uh, the college the university in Denver They're going to improve for instance a ramp coming off of the interstate They're going to improve bridges. They're going to build this and build that Do you realize that when I read the amount that they're giving to each of those things that it was profit approximately Only 40 percent now mark this folks if they gave you say

10 million dollars and you were supposed to build a new ramp off of such and such you can interstate with this and improve The parking lot in the college. Do you realize that they only gave you approximately 60 percent of what it would take to do that? That's right in the stimulus package They have intentionally planned it and it's all not a single congressman read the stimulus package And I can see why because now how how a state's going to be able to Fund the additional 40 percent of all of these items that are listed in the stimulus package Other taxes next year. Did he just make an argument for why the stimulus package didn't go far enough? Which is the progressive argument at the time. He accidentally did in trying to impugn it

But yeah, um, so like you got stimulus who stopped it from being that Why aren't you yelling at the g.o.p. That's that that would that doesn't serve his argument Okay, but the the thing is like uh individual people got stimulus checks for like a couple hundred dollars You know that that sort of thing good stuff, right? But how are they supposed to live for the rest of their lives? Look a stimulus give a manifest a stimulus doesn't cover everything like the idea it gets you going that sort of thing It's a it's a stimulant. It's a stimulates It's it motion push it's a it's a Where's the rest of money going to come from it's going to come from the money that comes later

What's fun is that stimulus does not have multiple meanings. No, it's just that one It like the idea of like oh so this big Like load of money that they gave is going to pay for 60 of this very needed project where the rest is going to come from Regular budget next year's taxes. Yeah, all of that makes perfect sense. Have you this argument is so stupid Have you read this bill? Do you know what it does? I just looked it up in denver. It improves their infrastructure Which they need And it does it at a really high percentage And since more people are going to be there that tax money is going to be

This is evil. It's part of their plan Dan I would say even a 60 improvement on like infrastructure issues is pretty good. It's massive So I don't know this is just this is ludicrous Like the idea that he's sort of presenting the idea that all taxes come from oil Well, granted a lot a lot of tax does come from oil, but it's not all of it But it's not even most necessarily. No, so that's stupid on one hand. And then the other is the I mean, I like your angle on it better than mine the idea of like You're actually arguing it should have been more. Yeah, that's kind of a better take on it

That's what he's it's it's like when it's like when fox news is showing all of the Policy principles that alexandria is pushing and they're like she wants you to have health care That's evil. She wants you to have food. She wants you to eat bullshit monster Look at all the things that you should be afraid of health care education uh roads, uh Modern life and food for your family. You don't want that. Right. That's evil So lindsay williams is uh full of shit, dude. Like it's crazy. He's uh, he's one of the worst guests. I've ever seen on this show Um, and like I said, I watched a bunch of his other stuff

I was going to get clips from that, but it's too boring. It's just it's it's nonsense but the the thing I really want to drive home is like He's not saying shit these predictions are all Like after the fact they're just validating his nonsense story But the reason he's able to pull it off is because he knows the game Uh, yes A number of time of different people have said lindsay. Why don't you please call this man back and get some more latest information? I'm going to admit to you alex. I'm afraid to

So that is in reference to this source that he has people keep asking him to call him back Hey, find out what else is up And then he's like i'm too scared to call that guy back Brr brr brr brr when you've you have now made yourself a public persona that's dependent on this guy's information You call that asshole back No matter what if you're him you don't call that asshole back You say you call that asshole back and you make up whatever it is you want You didn't even call the asshole in the first place spoiler alert

That's what he starts doing a couple years after 2009. All right. All right. Sounds right Uh, I I'm I'm frightened to even think of what he might tell me now What do I make of this the fact that they have accelerated that here it is So just to give you some context the the question that alex asked is like What do you think about the idea that oil has gone down so far? Like it's gone down so far so quickly. So that that's what he's referring to there Alex the reason they have done this in my mind's thinking is because they realize That programs like yours people like alex jones have awakened so many people

That the american people are beginning to rebel over 20 states now have said no We are sending a message to washington that we're no longer going to be under your control Uh, uh, this is another subject within itself now. Let's go back to why they're doing this Alex when I lived with these people I found that there was only one thing they were afraid of The dollar didn't bother them. They had control of that congress didn't concern them the president They didn't mind him at all. He's just a little puppet sitting up there Uh, what is the one thing that I found that these people are scared to get up? They are afraid of the american public the masses of people waking up and that's where alex jones show comes in

That's where info wars comes in. That's where info wars.com comes in every bit of this That's a good plug it frightens them more than anything else in this world Is because when the masses of people wake up, they don't have a chance There's a handful of them and there's millions of us and I believe alex the reason that they have What should I say accelerated their program worldwide? Not just in america, but worldwide and going below 50 dollars a barrel The reason I believe they've done it is because so many such masses of americans are waking up just because of people like you alex Amazing that is that's amazing bootlicking of the highest order. Yeah. Wow

Yep, that's a solid move right there. He did a little bit of research He listened to the show he figured out what talking points were hot right now He barreled him back at him and now dan. I'm gonna say he's gonna get to the cell No, I mean he does plot. I don't think at this point he has like his dvd empire that he does later He ends up coming back on in four words a bunch and like he gets much more of his own cottage industry Yeah, his followers go from a hundred to three hundred. Yeah. Yeah much like glens So the basic conspiracy that he's pitching But never really spells out on the show is that the globalists are trying to crash the oil

The price of oil in order to buy up the assets of oil companies Of course Then they're gonna ferment revolutions all over the world in order to push the price of oil back up to about 200 300 dollars a barrel that's high at which point They're going to reveal all the secret oil reserves that they control that they've pretended didn't exist until that moment Which he knows about from back when he was in the 70s Okay, working with these oil executives as a volunteer chaplain But wouldn't that lower the price of oil then?

No, because they get 200 300 dollars a barrel for all this oil Yeah, but if they reveal that they have more oil Then that would drive down the price. No, because commodities are based on scarcity, right? I know shushing is real bit It would ruin the entire scam Yep It's kind of a big problem. They're gonna commit this scam, right? And then invalidate that scam after a couple of years and go ha ha They're gonna pull off a 40 years long con in order to

Bring the price of oil up really high sell off some of it at that price But then by revealing all the oil that they have Normalize the price back down so they could just make what they could make now So the globalist the globalists are Trying to pull a 40 year long punked episode more or less. Yeah, it seems that way So william's record with predictions is so bad that even alex's fans How bad is it so bad that even alex's fans have turned against him The conspiracy theory world hates him from a post on real truth online with the headline

It's practically unanimous at prison planet oil insider. Lindsay williams is full of shit The article is about a mini rebellion that's taking place in the info wars forums against lindsay williams quote The outrage seems to stem from the fact that williams tends to pop up and make appearances on the alex jones show every time There's a world crisis that affects the price of crude oil as to claims Williams is made about being in danger For his whistleblowing quote right williams claims that he's received threats in the past begs the obvious question Why does he keep risking his life every three to four months to bring us his startling revelations? It's a good question. Why wouldn't he and not anonymously send jones this information if it's so earth shattering after all

That's what you really do because if you're a whistleblower secret information Uh, and you want it to remain alive. Yeah, i'll tell you why because williams cannot make a goddamn penny if he's giving up His information anonymously. It's all about the all-mighty dollar Uh, so dan that is so cynical. So he is trying to save us because the only way to stop the Globalist is if the american people wake up. This is an altruistic effort Some comments from the info wars for Now a bit now of it. This is something we've not really Give me give me some cock. Give me some cock. I want to hear some cock bullshit

It's time to actually hear from the info warriors themselves Oh, no, quote I know jones ain't the sharpest tool in the shed, but even my granny could recognize williams for what he is a bullshitting Opportunist all right. I like it. Here's another one strict and to the point quote. There's a clear script and formula It's not at all improvised. I think many are coming to the inclusion. He's just trying to sell dvds. What is another one quote I've been a huge fan of alex jones for the past eight years, but sadly today I just can't stand listening to this kind of bullshit Lindsay williams

Lindsay williams is alex jones in five to eight years from now Sadly today I just realized that alex is just in it for the money and I have nothing against him for making a living But this is too much. Thank god It seems like a waste of my time when it's just so transparent that he and lindsay are mostly cut from the same cloth God damn it. I was about to say with that last comment They're like he's clearly just in it for the money. It's like go the next step Yeah, so is your boy alex and they do and then we finally get the guy

Quote dead air would be more informative than this guy nice And then the last one quote the main question needs to be asked if he's getting passed along information from others Why would he ever be wrong even once? So it's nice to have this glimpse into the world of info warriors according to the art of war Disinformation is important for both enemies and allies sure and alex is So, I mean we got this guy and I guess I might have oversold it a little bit based on the content that he's bringing to the table But like it is really fascinating to me like how Clear he knows the game that is flatter alex and you'll be one of his go-to guys

Oh, yeah, and alex is Falling for it like he's absolutely falling for it to the point where there's a rebellion Like this is only six months after the episode. We're listening to oh shit rebellion in the info wars chat room That was fast. Well, it's because he comes back later Okay, we'll get to down the road in our investigation. Okay, okay moving forward right where he comes in and he has now introduced His line of dvds. Yeah, he's starting to sell things Uh much like john ram report right right right sell these dvds He's not doing much plugging on this episode because he's laying the ground right right right. He's not in the rotation yet

He's laying the seeds if we're gonna prosperity gospel. Absolutely. This is a seed for later growth. Yes, so The reason that I think it's interesting is you see the You see like a brilliant con man who whose actual con is terrible But his game is good. His game is solid. His game is good in terms of like knowing This guy will help me move You oh, yeah, absolutely But the actual con is so thin that the listeners see through it in terms of like you're wrong about all these predictions consistently Which is a fucking

Heavy con to pull on alex jones's listeners when even they can see through it You're you're bringing some weak sauce. Let's get into get into a rewrite. Why do these guys never get into like just get into a writer's room Right just get in there and be like what's the what's the best con for here? Why am I fucking up? Let's do some uh, how about how about this have a couple focus groups See what we see what cons they're gonna go with if you can afford a ten thousand dollar press room That nobody goes to invite a couple of your friends put them down get a survey going figure out what con's gonna work best for them I agree. I um If I can tell you that's what I would if I was gonna become a con man, right? I would do that first get a basic

Uh business plan set up take it to the bank say look, I'm gonna be conning Here's my scam the bank is gonna be like we're amoral so it doesn't matter Let's lend you twenty thousand dollars Go con to your heart's con to your heart's content. Come on man. It's brilliant Yeah, you also have a good community in front of you like real diverse crowd within stand-up comedy Absolutely get some friends who are also very creative for sure. Oh, man. You find the holes. We could all con Why are why are we comics? Open mics need to turn into like scam operations. I know there's so many people waiting to go on stage, right?

There's no reason to be sitting there watching someone do their fucking You don't care. You're just thinking about your own. Everyone needs to be at the back of the room coming up with elaborate scam Why not everyone else is just like Smoking weed in the like bite in the alley and being like that guy's joke sucks. You're wasting time Open mic 11. That's what we're gonna be pitching the last like years that I didn't stand up instead of Sitting at the back of the room doing nothing and slamming shots If I was actually sitting there talking with somebody like, all right, here's what we're gonna fucking do All right, I would be a millionaire right now instead of doing this podcast

Here's what you need to know bank of america has one week spot and it's a lovely teller. Her name is danica Wrong kind of danica. Danica is the one who's gonna get us into the manager's office the manager He's fucking garbage. You're gonna hate jordan. Yeah, this isn't a con. That's a caper. Oh You need to be playing the right game, you're right. What cons are we doing? It would be sitting around and figuring out a way to come up with like a bullshit Diet product or something like that. Oh, yeah, that would work. That would make much more money And it wouldn't be illegal immediately. That's true. That's true. It would it would take a while to get illegal You can make millions of dollars before it actually like right back on and then as an open mic or you can just bail

Yeah, exactly. Ah Um, you just be like, hey, I got another con to get to I'm sorry. I can't stick around for the rest of the show I want to I want to tell you about what's going on in my heart right now And that is that I feel like uh, I oversold the Guest I think I think that he's crazy to me But on paper maybe like in presentation. Maybe he's not as crazy I think I think that there's some Obviously fun things about how he's a clear liar and he's a brown noser and all that stuff

Yeah, I I think that I think I might I think I might be more into him than he deserves to be The problem is that crazy does not necessarily mean wacky I think a lot of people when we when you say like this this guest on alex jones is crazy Most people are thinking oh, he's a wacky guest. He's gonna say some wild shit This guy's crazy in like a a canny like idiotic way. It doesn't always read necessarily But then also I think that any any critic that I'm imagining in my head can't fucking take away the fact that uh I've not seen any guests that there's been an insurrection on info wars forums about so that's pretty crazy I think it was worth it just for the comments. Absolutely. I I think it was worth it to listen

Was worth it to listen to this guy Just because he was so Transparently bad at this somebody stopped listening to the show Well, and now we know as we move forward when we hear him like we know the game He's going to be playing yeah, and how he's going to be pissing off the info warriors. Oh for sure. Yeah So that'll happen in 2009, but we have one more clip here. Um, and that is uh from a caller And uh, you know This guy's dumb

Hello. Yes, sir Hi dom. I speak to you too. Uh, I don't know if this has any bearing on anything But july 24 24th after barack obama's speech in berlin I watched him come out the rear of the building and him and one reporter and one cameraman only and uh He stated what was the purpose of your speech and he said so christians jews and muslims can work as they choose together Because i'm a muslim. He said he repeated that question two times Do you think that that will have any effect on how he governs arc? So hold on

Let's pause for a second and imagine Imagine that interview Why did you give that speech? Well, so muslims christians and uh, so people can all get along goddamn so That the very idea of that is so hilarious Also, it doesn't even play into their fears. Nope Like that if that's that concept is like no that concept is him being like i want to bring the world together So we stop killing each other because i'm a muslim

And you're like, oh So are so is that so that's a good thing. Aren't you guys still complaining that he's a member of reverend rites church? But it's because it's are you guys still on that narrative. It's because he's a muslim reverend rite church christian monster with uh, oh and he's got weather underground But man, it's so funny just the idea like in my mind i'm picturing it and it's like behind this venue sometimes like i'm a muslim The idea that he's just like

I don't I don't know how to play it out in words, but the picture in my head is so fucking hilarious I see now. Here's what I imagine. All right, uh, obama walking out the back door. He's got his body guard There is a row of children all wanting autographs right now the reporter comes up to him and he's like What did you do? Why did you give that speech? He's in the middle of signing an autograph? He's signing it. He kind of stops for a minute. He goes because I want Jews muslims and christians all to get along together Grabs the autograph note tears it up throws it in the crowd. It's a girl's throw because i'm a muslim Booyah, oh i'm out of here mic drop

So stupid country He's already having effect look at the bill he signed yesterday And he made the statement. He said I was elected president. I will draw up the bill the way I want it Well, I've never said that it's disgusting for him to the very next day Run a reporter down to ask him to admit that he was a muslim man and also one last point About how to prepare I'll call by a gunstore owner that people need to start backing selling ammunition And if you can get it

Yeah, you can get it sold out even by if you can buy a gun right now You're fortunate man if you buy him buy ammunition you you go look for it You try to find it gold is selling out silver Ted's almost sold out right now. Thank you for the call Kind of an ad pivot. Wow. Did we get there kind of an ad pivot there? So do you know do you know what happened with uh bullets? Around this time So Alex likes to know Alex likes to pretend that I don't really keep a tab on bullets Alex likes to pretend that the government was just buying up all the ammunition

I do remember him talking about that the 2008 election of barack obama triggered increased sales in both firearms and ammunition USA Today reported that in wyoming the run-on bullets and reloading components reached such a frenzy that a shayan dealer Began rationing sales and said she was selling She was selling also selling semi automatic rifles as fast as she could put them on the shelves The issue was not ever that the government was buying up stuff It was that these people these propagandists were creating such a fervor of they're going to take your guns That everyone bought out the stock so fucking fast that there was a legitimate Years long ammunition shortage. So that was the 1929 stock market crash of bullets

Yeah, essentially. I mean you can look into it. There was a almost five year long just run-on bullets That was happening because of all this fear of like you can't get it. Damn it You can't get guns you go to a gun show at any fucking point and find anything you want, you know, it's bananas Uh, I went to gun shows around right time and I I could find guns see now That seems like the obvious answer because at the time we got so many like Is america ready for a black president when you see that ammunition sales are Stocks are disappearing The answer is no guys the answer is no and if people are buying more semi automatic weapons

America is not ready for a black president not just guns or not just ammo also guns all of it Yeah, it was because of the fear that these these right wing propagandists pushed forth and that that's the that's To me. I think this is a good place to end the episode because it's so The perfect narrative for them because they are the cause of it And they also are benefiting from the the lack of product, you know Like their rhetoric about they're becoming a they're being a black president is what caused the run-on ammunition Right the run-on ammunition is something that they then get to use as like the government's buying up all the ammunition Right because there's a black president be scared of that. It's a perfect circle. You can't find any ammunition

It's the evergreen tree of propaganda. Yeah, that's fucking gorgeous And you see this sort of thing and you're like I don't think there's any hope But this is no hope this again to me is what's fascinating about white people because I do kind of think we might be aliens Because we're we're way wrong. Here's what they're really saying the entire propaganda is Oh, shit. There's a black president now black people are going to do to us what we did to them So we need to buy guns, but they wouldn't say it that way Right, they wouldn't say it that way But that's the real heart of all of their fears is they're aware like the more they get bitchy about

I don't want to feel guilty for being white right what they really mean is I don't want to be punished for all the Shit that I know we did I don't want to I don't want it brought up how much I've been In advantage because yeah, exactly and if If they if we give them power, which is the way they view it then they'll figure out our game And then we're going to be the ones who are enslaved and you know what we already talked about I think being a slave is wrong for me Other people it was a different story, but for me I mean we already talked about this in the last episode and we're talking about that guy's uh that pastor's

Muslim fears about if there's more of them. Yeah, then they'll destroy all of us right what he's all What he's really saying is a fear of like I want to do that I think they would do that if they had one more. It's like um, that's why that's why I can't I can't get my head I like I can't stop talking about that is because on some intrinsic level that suggests They are well aware that white people have committed the worst crimes I 100% know that they are well aware of that they have to be and so it's it's It boggles my mind. It really does. It's crazy. You can you can either accept that reality and Move forward with it or you can do the white thing

Which is create your own alternative reality where you're always the best and apparently that's super profitable. Yeah, super good Yeah, so that brings us to the end of this 2009 investigation We are getting dangerously close to the beginning of the the public tea party very excited to see what happens with that Um, we'll be there shortly. Um, but for now What we've learned Not a lot. No, mostly stuff. We already knew. Yeah, um, just with some along. Uh, it was a fun way Well, we learned about uh, france wami to roll. I liked france wami to roll Um, so I mean who cares. Yep. I hope you all enjoyed this. We'll be back real shortly and

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I've done shows with him or something like that. Hey, Derek. This is dan freezing. You know who I am You should check out our show. Yeah, but I can't but I still appreciate people doing that yeah, I've uh So I uh, I did a show in the suburbs And afterwards a dude came up to me who had been living in LA for a while and he was like, oh, man You did a great job. I want to follow. What's your facebook? What's your twitter? What's your instagram? I was like, uh, I don't have instagram I left facebook

I kind of have a twitter and he's like no you got a branch out. You're a brand and all of that So that's when I immediately deactivated twitter and like I'm on zero faith. I'm zero social networks right now And uh, it is exciting Also, my brand is really suffering. Yeah, we need to do better. Yeah Anyway, uh, like thank you all for listening. Uh, I guess we've come to the end of this. Yeah, uh, I believe it's on you today, sir Who are we gonna go with boy? This is tough. Yeah, there's a murderers row. Oh, there's not there's not a whole lot I don't know. I think the last guy with the accent No, the guy with the the collar with the accent the collar can't do it. It's tough to

Just to throw him under the bus. I'm fine with throwing him under the bus. Ah, I've got it. Okay. Um sir you have completely lied About a couple people who probably don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Oh, no, not him. You know, he's a folk hero. Look The players are not To be deified or thought of as heroes But they're part of the iraq war situation

But because you are such a flagrant conman You invalidate a lot of criticism against them that is very real. Good point. So I will say robert foster Please do the world a favor and please go fuck yourself Andy and chan's us. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you