Knowledge Fight - #188: August 1, 2018

Episode Date: August 3, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the various lawsuits that Alex Jones is dealing with at the moment. They deal with that pretty quickly then get on to greener pastures, like pitching an arson based TV show and cataloging yet more instances of Alex being really stupid.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and on this case, celebrate National IPA Day, and talk about Alex Jones. Indeed. We are celebrating National IPA Day. I don't know if it's actually that. I just saw a sponsored post on Twitter.

Sure. Probably. It's a made up bullshit thing, but fine. We'll drink every day is National IPA Day if you're an alcoholic like me. Fair enough. There you go. Fair enough. What are we doing? We're doing a show about Alex Jones here, this podcast that we do. Oh, shit. When did we start doing that?

About two years ago. Too long. We've been doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, so, I mean, frankly, since I've completely blanked out, what is the show about and why am I here? You're here because you are a knowledgeable man. Because you startle easily. That is a very good point. You are. You are the audience surrogate if our audience is very angry about climate change.

That's why you're here. I'm here because I spend way too much time looking into and researching and just just swimming in the pond that is conservative propaganda. And, uh, and, uh, con men. That sounds like a really interesting show. It, uh, it has its moments. The reviews are in though. No one wants to review it because it's too long. I assume that's why probably. Um, anyway, today, Jordan, we have an interesting show.

I'm going to be straight up at the, Straight up. Uh, like, Now tell me, Like I'm Paula Abdul and you're MC scat cat. You really want to love me forever. Oh, I'm going to be straight up and say, I think that our evidence or episode is going to be okay.

But hopefully good. But I am not into this episode that I listened to today. I am not into it. I did not enjoy it. I love so many late night shows that they always start out with, Hey guys, we got a great show for you tonight. Here's who we got coming up. I want you to,

Oh, you would run it and just be like, Dude, these people are mediocre. This is going to be an okay show. I'd be Colbert coming out. I think we're going to be all right tonight. I think it's going to go okay. We have a lot of people that you're really not that excited about. We have a Bill Paxton.

Yeah. Um, so everybody likes Bill Paxton. You know, And somebody who we're all excited about. Oh, there we go. Double transition. Shout out to a new donor. This is very exciting.

Cause I think this gentleman is also from Sweden based on the fact that his last name includes one of those O's with a dash through it. Oh, you can't be having those. I'm going to guess, but also that could be any, any number of languages that aren't necessarily American English. But very excited also because he sent me a message that included, you don't need to respond to this,

which always gets me very excited. If you want Dan to respond, just let him know that there's no pressure. That could, that could help things. There's no pressure. I appreciate everything very, very much. Thanks for supporting the show and becoming a policy wonk. Thank you so much, Christian.

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Yeah. So anyway, Jordan, today we're going to be going over the August 1st, 2018 episode of the Alex Jones show. Wait, that's in reality. Yeah. It's in present day. That's not good. Well, I feel like we owe it to the world because Alex is,

he's going to court this week. He's, he's from what I've heard. He's melting down. A lot of people, a lot of people talking. A lot of people talking. People talking. I don't, I don't, I'm not supposed to know anything about it. And people are talking so much that I know that there's like,

he's, oh boy, that family. They're going to get them. Or they're not going to get them. He's, he's had his trials beginning or I believe, I think if I understand correctly earlier this week, he had a motion to get this thing out of court. This is a motion to dismiss hearing that I don't think is going to work out. The, the lawyers, I've read a bunch of articles about this.

And from what I can tell, the lawyers arguments seem to boil down to like, do you remember when he was last on trial? It's great. It's great that we're talking about a last trial on Alex Jones. The last time he had to present himself as a performance artist. Yeah. In order to have his on air rants not be admissible in court.

Right. In his child custody case. I'm just a joker. Nobody would believe me. Right. And it's important for his lawyers to draw that line because if he's not playing a character and that really is him on air, then it's relevant to how he acts off air.

Right. And so he had to walk that really fine line of like, I'm performing, but I also really mean this. I'm also real, but I'm doing this in a way so that I, but I also believe it, but yeah. He has to walk that incredibly fine line in order to not alienate his audience, but at the same time not put him in the hopper where his videos can be played in court. Right.

So now is that would not go well for a jury. That would be tough. Yeah. So now the, the new struggle and the new line that he's having to walk or his lawyers are is really interesting to me. And it is a thing where he has to still act like he knows things for his audience's sake. Right. But at the same time, his lawyers have to argue that no reasonable person would believe that

he's telling the truth. All right. Well, then you do want him to play as videos in court. Yeah. That would help their case. Yeah. That would help their case immensely screaming nonsense. Yeah.

Like, no, well, this isn't true. It's lawyers debunk him in court. Yeah, exactly. And one of the issues with that is that one of the, the main parts of the Sandy Hook family's argument and their, their claim is that he's put them at risk because of things like that lady who was threatening Posner, Mr. Posner. Yes.

Because she watched Info Wars and believed him to be a crisis actor. Right, right, right. And so in order to get them off the hook for influencing her, they have to paint her as the crazy one. Right. She's crazy because she believed this. Right. But if you make that argument full-throatedly, then you're leaving it so like, oh, no one

should believe anything he says. Yeah. So he has to walk this really fine line. And I think that's fascinating because what all of these cases, I don't think this is intentional, but it's going to build up a body of like weird lines he's had to walk in court. So we already know that he has to walk the line of performance and reality. Yes. Now he's having to walk the line of, you shouldn't believe me.

Why do you believe me? But you should believe me. You should totally believe me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the other case that's pending, and I believe this one also had a hearing at some point this week. It's not the guy's name, but it's the guy who was misidentified as the Parkland shooter. Alex Jones and Kit Daniels, one of Alex's reporters, are being sued because they misrepresented

this guy as the shooter because he had like an Antifa shirt on. Of course. Or like a communism shirt on. And so they used that to try and conflate this guy with the actual Nicholas Cruz, the shooter. Yeah. The due diligence that any journalistic outfit would have done is reverse image search this and find out it's not the same guy.

Never report this. And Alex, an Infowars argument is like, well, we accurately reported on something that was posted on 4chan, which is not journalistic due diligence, which however means that they are the ones who are at fault. And in fact, we were not reporting on the Parkland shooter. We were reporting on the reporting done by 4chan. Which opens up another really troubling possibility that was in one of the articles I was reading. I think it's a really good point.

If that's acceptable, then any Infowars reporter could anonymously post something on 4chan and then report it as if it's news. There's a self-creating mechanism you've established here if you allow that sort of thing. Yeah. So I assume it will be allowed probably. So the reason I bring up that case is the line he's going to have to walk there is like am I really a journalist at all? Do I have the protections of journalism or am I just a dickhole yelling?

Is there any reason for me to have to follow basic standards of what journalists adhere to? And I think that that's going to be the next hurdle that he's going to have to jump over with his lawyers. I don't know how it's going to work out. Here's my quick and dirty. This is the reason why we're doing a modern episode is because we can't be in Alex Jones' podcast and not sort of dive into this a little bit. Yeah, of course.

So I'm sorry, go ahead. Here's my short analysis of this. One, no, no reasonable person would believe what he's saying, which protects him from the consequences of saying that no reasonable person would believe what he's saying because the people who believe what he's saying are unreasonable and therefore are going to make any excuse to continue believing what he's saying. It's kind of an oraboros. So, you know, no reasonable person would believe this.

And that's because the truth is unreasonable. 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 And there you go. 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Solved. 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:17,000 And in the same way that, like, he had to give an apology to Hamdi Ulakaya and James Alathontis, he had to post these videos of him apologizing and being like,

I never meant to imply they did all the things I said they did. 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,000 And then all of his listeners are like, oh, yeah, he just had to do that because they were going to get it. And he's going to have to do this. 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 They're just going to. 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:37,000 So, at the end of the day, I hope that the people who were wronged by him in some way get what they're looking for out of these cases.

But I don't think at the end of the, I really don't see how this is going to really negatively affect him with the people who are already on board. Right. Because what you said, they're unreasonable. Exactly. So, who knows? Oh, man. I hope for the best. What if the prosecution just called a bunch of Alex Jones listeners as witnesses and just started asking them questions?

Oh, man. That would convince anybody that no reasonable person would listen to Alex Jones. Yeah. But then if you, I don't know what that means. God damn it. Why am I running the defense for Alex? But I don't know what that means. Like if you establish in court that he doesn't have any responsibility because no reasonable person would believe him, then where does that leave you?

That leaves him free to say anything he wants at that point. That's not good. Yep. I don't know. I don't know how it's going to play out, but. I don't know. The Seth Rich case that was just defeated against them kind of gives me kind of like a clearer idea of where this is going to go. Not great.

Everybody's like, yeah, we agree. They fucked you over, but surprise, nothing that the justice system can do for you. So, the justice system is inherently incapable of addressing unjust situations. And that's the real nightmare is Alex Jones goes to court against Sandy Hook families and somehow isn't in the wrong. You know, like you never want to open up that possibility as like, this is a potential outcome of this. Right. Because then he has years and years of, haha, I beat the Sandy Hook families in court. Right.

No, it's not a good brag. So what we're going for in our show is if we were ever to be sued, our defense lawyers would say, no unreasonable person would listen. Then we're screwed. No, no, no. That's the trick. That way I can continue to call for violence. However, because our show is so inherently reasonable, they would all reject it. They would all reject it.

Yeah. All of our listeners know full well that I'm not going to actually wish violence on somebody. So we're a listener to perhaps a murder Jeff Bezos in his home and Pia in his throat. No. Then they would say, you know, nothing. They would be like, look, look at how reasonable our listeners are even as, even as Alex Jonesy and parody. I don't like this. So today, Jordan, like I said, August 1st, 2018, here is an out of context drop.

And Trump is about saying you're powerful. You're beautiful. You're an overcomer. You're amazing. That's so Christlike. I mean, my gut, my gut goes Trump, Trump. Trump is Christlike. That's excessive.

I think it's more like he needs to eat better. Yeah. Oh yeah. If his gut is going Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Even if it's even if it's saying another word, just going, oh, then no, you got to try, try fiber, try fiber.

Unless you're like Jay Sherman from the critic. Is it peas? I don't care. I love that show so much. It's a great show. Unlike I will eat your soul. It is a great show. Unlike Alex Jones on August 1st.

This is rough. So the first clip we're going to play here right at the beginning of the Alex's episode, he's complaining about how even Fox News is attacking him. And that's a concerted effort that obviously it's a character assassination job. And we'll see where it goes from there. One of their morning shows viciously lie about me for 10 minutes this morning, America's newsroom trying to outdo MSNBC. I guess the young ladies on the program.

We've got the clip. We may play it later. Are just absolutely living on their own planet. And of course, they'll never actually show what I've said. They'll actually never what I'm doing. What I'm doing. They just sit there and regurgitate the same anti free speech, anti gun garbage. No matter how many times I clarify or how many times I apologize for the media misrepresenting

or how many times I reach out to the families. You see the very people on the news saying he won't stop attacking us. He won't quit. So the issue here is that Alex has in, you know, more recent days said that he believes that the anti hook was real, which is all good and well. But what he doesn't do is ever say, I did say it was fake. He pretends that he never said that. And what people take issue with is the damage that was done because of his actions in the past.

They're not saying, oh, you keep saying it's fake, although he did for a really long time. And just because he says no one ever plays clip. I wonder if we're going to play the clip again. Here's one. Also was Oregon a false flag like new town? Well, there's a, there's one. There's a definite, you know, you're saying it's a false flag. All right, cool, cool, cool.

So the other issue in that clip that I take very, very serious issue with is the way he presents it as like, I've apologized. But what he doesn't say is I've apologized for what I did. He says, I apologize for what the media lies about. I just written that down. I apologize for the media misrepresenting. I was like, ah, no, hold on. He does that all the time. Like in that video that he put out trying to reach out to the Sandy Hook families.

It was all about, I'm sorry that the media has hurt you with lying about me, which is so manipulative, so evil. It's next level irresponsible. And I don't, sure. I think it's great that he no longer gets on air and says, no kids died there. I think that's wonderful. It's not good that it's the end result of a journey. You should probably, you know, have started there. That'd be a good place to start.

Possibly. But it's really, it's just a bummer, man. It's a real serious bummer that he refuses to own up to and accept what he was a part of. That's it. That's the conversation that people are mad about. And the fact that he won't, like it would hurt him not at all to come on air in any of the times that he's done his fake apologies and just say, we fucked up. We fucked up. You know, we thought, we thought we saw something that we didn't see.

We thought Anderson Cooper's nose disappeared because of a green screen, but it turns out it's compression error that's only in one version of the video. It doesn't happen in high res versions of the video. We, we found that stuff out and everything isn't as suspicious as we thought Rob do's dad didn't say the thing or his uncle didn't say the things that we were saying that he said investigating Sandy Hook and how he thinks it's a cover up. All this. Look, we fucked up. People fuck up from time to time. We're sorry. We'll do better in the future.

That's all he ever would have had to say. No one would sue him. He'd be in the clear. I bet he could say that now and make this all go away. Yeah. And he won't. I don't understand. I don't understand why.

What do you mean you don't understand why? Well, I know ego and all that shit. There you go. Problem solved. But I still don't understand. Slice it there. I don't understand why people can't just accept like, eh, we fucked up on that one. Because he can't.

He's not a guy. He's, he's, it is, it is a fundamental issue with hubris that it cannot be defeated by the person experiencing it. Yeah. That's the whole point of that. The word is only used for people who cannot help but fall deathly into their fucking sickness. Yeah. Like it's, it's what's going to happen. Yep.

It's fascinating. But it's on his own. Yeah. So in this next clip, he just sort of repeats the theme of his own self-defense, which is really, really weak. So they tried to ridicule and demonize us and lie about us once they figured out people were listening, but it's way too late. That's true.

And that's why every channel, including Fox News with Bill Hammer is up there just spewing total absolute lies about me and never showing a clip of what I've said. Never showing any proof of what I've done. That's always a little telltale sign for you. In all the fake foe outrage, we got a low res copy. We're going to find a good one. We're good. That's shaking camera to make me nauseous.

Thanks. And it's just illustrative of how these frauds work. So, um, I mean, that was just a little bit of an off air conversation on air. And again, he's complaining that no one plays clips. Whoops. Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors in my view manufactured. I couldn't believe it at first. I knew they had actors there clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids and it

just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors. I mean, they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey. So, yeah, or Pakistan, the sky is now the limit. So if any of you are interested in any of those specific pieces of bullshit that he's spitting, go ahead and look into them. They're all lies. Yeah.

So, Alex, I mean, I know that one of the things that he's really comfortable with is that like that's outside the statute of limitations. That was in January of 2015. He knows he can't be punished for that. So denying that he said any of these things is going to play fine. Like he knows that that can only be used as like circumstantially trying to prove that current statements that he's made is a continuation of him saying that this is fake. That's right.

That's why when we first talked about the lawsuit, that was your big deal is that the issue is that there's a statute of limitations on this. And so all the good stuff they can't use. But they can. But they can't use it the way that it should be used. They can, but only if the court establishes that his statements that fall within the statute of limitations illustrate like an intent to say it was fake. Yeah.

And then these past things, they still can't be like you can't sue him for that clip. Yeah. But they can be used to establish a pattern and intent. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just, it's just bullshit. I mean, it's, it's the most cowardly thing in the world. Like, you know that you said that, Alex, you know that you've said stuff like that over and over again.

It's not, this isn't any, this isn't a surprise. You've had Steve Pachanik on constantly talking about how it was fake. Even this year, Steve Pachanik has been on his show. This year. Yes. Oh, that's right. He has any fucking, he said it again. And he said that Alex has probably like been threatened into saying that it's not fake.

Yeah. Like, so, I mean, I don't know. Look, I, I, And Alex had to do the, the whole like waffle like, well, I mean, there's a lot of, and then he just bailed. He just punted on the whole thing. And then he moved Steve Pachanik down to the, uh, yeah. So, I'm going to get to hang out with David Knight now.

I don't want to talk to you for a bit. You're in the doghouse. So, Or the hurricane house as it were. So that was excessive, but I just wanted to, um, while Alex is complaining that other people don't play clips and don't show these things, I know that we've played those clips before, but in case you haven't heard those episodes, we do. Yeah.

And that is why he will never fuck with us. Because he can't use that argument. Um, a lot of this episode, uh, is him talking about Google being evil and fair enough. Yeah, we're all on that. We're all on board. Yep. Good for you. Not.

Oh, did you just get there? Not going to take too much issue with that. Um, but, uh, here is a clip that goes into some weird places after he, uh, is complaining about Google. Google was set up by the NSA, the CIA and DARPA and was supposedly a utility of American internet to promote freedom worldwide, but America's been captured. So now it is a globalist tool and the president is getting informed and educated about this. And that's the main reason they're on every channel in the country lying about me today

saying I bully children and I do all this and I do all that. And I beat up a transgender kid and they don't show you where or when it's all lies. So that was from the, uh, video that got taken down from YouTube. The one about the, uh, the drag queens and stuff like that. Right. Um, uh, in an article in daily dot, they said that he was attacking children, uh, but they made it very clear that that wasn't talking about the video of the guy who attacks a child that also got taken down from YouTube.

Um, they make it clear that he is attacking these trans children, uh, in the, uh, in that clip. Um, and they don't say that he's physically attacking them or beating them up. He is attacking them in that clip. Like he is, he is coming at kids pretty hard. Once again, in Alex's defense, if they were saying what he was saying, they would be lies. Yeah. Yeah.

Unfortunately they are not saying what he says they're saying. So they're telling the truth. Yep. It's all straw man. It's so boring. Pathetic. They'd been green-lighted with propaganda like you only see before they invade an innocent country.

This is war drum level beating that, that has now reached the level Trump was being attacked during the campaign. I am now as demonized as the president and they want to turn the president against me and my audience and then have you turn against him. I'd be fine with that. Even the president ever needs to throw me under the bus. I say go ahead and do it sir, but I don't think it's smart move and I think you already know that because they'll just keep misrepresenting and keep misrepresenting and the president

and others are being informed about this entire attack profile and how they're going to use it in a major campaign. Not just in 2018, but 2020 they're going to run against Trump on Alex Jones. No shit. I can already see this in the tea leaves. No shit. Some high level folks in the Pentagon, the CIA they concur and are fully aware of this and they're not just going to try to take the president out with this.

They're going to try to take the entire First Amendment out. Now. Okay. Sure. Excessive perhaps. That was the first start. First amendment part. Bull hockey.

I would say. Could be. Could be. But the idea that he needs to consult with CIA agents about whether or not people are going to use Alex Jones against Trump in elections. No fucking shit. They are. You are the clown.

You are. Like if there is somebody who's worse than Trump, I guess maybe not worse. But like. No, I'm going to go with Trump is surprisingly worse than Alex Jones by a large and not just in relative terms to power. I mean like just as a human being. No, I agree. I think Trump.

I think Alex might actually be an okay father and Trump by all. No, I don't think that's the case. Alex is worse at this. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Like Trump is at least a little bit media savvy and would have you like he's able to spin things that are negative about him into positive somehow. And he's transcended it by now just deciding that rather than being media savvy, he's just

going to remove all media but his own. Right. Right. Whereas Alex just is like kind of angry and combative whenever things are not going great and miraculously it seemed to work but he doesn't win these things. No. He just doesn't lose somehow. It's a push.

Yeah. You know, it's this weird, unsatisfying gamble. Like at the poker table and you're like, you both have Ace Jack. Yeah. Whatever and you're splitting the board. It's like you thought you were going to win hundreds of dollars on a hand and then all of a sudden. Yeah.

That's what it is with Alex. He's taking these gambles and screaming about how everyone's coming after him and then he ends up in court and has to do an apology. And then it's a tie. Alex is the perpetual tie. It's just deflation over and over again. It's a balloon. It's a balloon that's being inflated.

It's like, oh my God, this is going to blow up. This is going to be crazy. And then just a slow deflation of the balloon. No tension release at all. Wow. So disappointing. Yeah. Do you know what?

That's a, the, what he said though has kind of made me view something a little bit differently. He is not, what is he doing? What is he doing when he's saying that if Trump needs to throw him under the bus, then he's fine with it. He's saying like, like, does he, does he, has he started to believe his own bullshit on this? Yeah. Like he has to know that Trump is a pile of shit.

Well, he's trying to, I think if I were to get into his head, which is sort of what I've been doing this whole time. I think what he's doing is trying to show honor a little bit and that like, I am such a loyal person that if you need to throw me under the bus, I understand. It's like performative. It's like performative sacrifice. Yeah. Yeah.

Because, but it's also a manipulation in terms of like, he thinks that Trump is going to hear that and be like, fuck yeah, I never have to throw that guy under the bus or something like that. I think that, yes, the short answer, he does believe his own bullshit. Yeah. Cause there's no way, but that's not the Alex that I know. That's not blustery. That's not, I'm the, I'm the last, no, no, I mean, that's not like that.

I'm the last bulwark against this. That, that's not like they're trying to take me down. It's like subservient in a way that I don't find acceptable from Alex. Are you kidding? I don't. He said he would die for Trump. I know, but he also said that he had ISIS up his dirty asshole. I'm, I'm hoping for it.

Where's the, where's the Alex, man? This guy's all over the place. This is pathetic. I, well, this is why I hate modern days because Alex is a, a fucking, a dog with his tail between his legs is pathetic. I will say that there is a moment that is coming up where Alex shows a tiny bit of backbone, but it goes away pretty quickly. And it's actually really pretty funny.

Okay. It's one of the few things in this episode that I was like, oh, oh, oh Nelly. So in the sex clip, Alex talks about, about Google and how they're helping China. Oh, so he actually read the intercept piece. I think he read the headline. Yeah. Well, I'm sure he read the entire article, but fair. Um, I mean, yeah, fair, fair, again, fair play.

Yeah. I don't know. We're all on board, but Google's evil. Good call. But he's like, okay, so China is doing all this evil stuff and Google is helping them. And everybody's eight responses. They're a private company. They can do what they want.

Right. And then he extrapolates from there in a rather unfortunate way. There's the response. Well, they're a private company. You know, if Google wants to go over to China and help find out where fall on Gong are, who are practicing Buddhism secretly and have them taken to facilities and have their organs harvested, that's a good thing. Hell, then why don't you say Hitler was a private company?

What he was, the Nazis were a private corrupt evil company. So it's a private company. You know, Hitler can do what he wants. They'll probably have the New York Times tomorrow. Jones says Hitler can do what he wants. You damn liars. You scum. That's what they do, man.

Most of the stuff you see isn't in quotes or it's like one word quotes, then another word quotes, which they think the public doesn't understand. That means they're taking words like refrigerator, magnet game, different words and putting them together. So we're seeing you do that. Oh, never. Also, the New York Times did not say that Alex says Hitler can do whatever. So we can report on that.

Can we? Yeah, they didn't take the bait on that one. Those damn liars. Now, admittedly, the New York Times has not replied for comment at time of pressing. So we can't be sure. Alex is fucking up that metaphor. Also, didn't he just make a perfect argument against capitalism? Big time.

But also he fucked up the metaphor or the simile, because what it would be is like, okay, so Google is helping China who are doing horrible things that doesn't make Hitler the company. No, that makes Hitler China in that equation and people who helped the Nazis, like George Bush's dad or or Fred, Fred Coke's dad or Fred Coke himself. Yeah, these people who helped the Nazis, they are the ones who you should, you know, reflect with with with Google as opposed to Hitler himself. So it's almost like this is me being an English teacher.

Right. No, I understand. It bothers me when people mess up. No, it was a terrible metaphor that didn't make any sense. It's why Alex couldn't pass the fucking ACT. Although, on the other hand. SAT. Both.

You can't pass or fail either of those. They're just relative benchmarks. You can in my book. Okay, fair enough. But if you do want to say that his metaphor was good and you start talking about governments as private contractors, the because essentially what they're what they're supposed to be is the UN OSHA. It's essentially supposed to be an extrapolation of the public good.

Right. And instead it is acting as its own private contractor, which you could consider our government to be doing at this point in time. Yeah, because they're not really because they're what they're not even for profit. Now they're just funneling things to for profit companies. So you could say that the government has now functionally taken over the part of the middleman between private companies and what we would call human beings. And you would say that if they're acting as a private contractor and they're acting illegally

or perhaps hatefully or propping up, God, I don't know how many regimes like Saudi Arabia funding weapons that they're sending to use in the fight against Yemen. And the Qatar, the Qatar bullshit is beyond reasonable. And you could say that perhaps that is the function of capitalism to disregard human life and instead to fucking maximize profits over every goddamn thing else. So Alex has made a perfect point to why we should abolish the one thing that he says is the best. Ding, ding, ding. God, I hate him.

He's really dumb. And this next one is also pretty dumb. And then they got the young people of China to kill at least 30 million people by hand, including their own parents. And then another 40 million starved death. And then that was just under Mao. And then David Rockefeller. When Mao died, you just type in David Rockefeller editorial praising Mao, click images, it'll come up.

Why are you clicking images? Why are you clicking images? Google's buried it. You can still find it. Pretty sure it's on the first page. And he's like praising somebody that killed. So go to Google right now. Don't click images, though.

No, just just a safe search off because then you get the the nudie version of it. So you Google David Rockefeller. I don't know if you Google like Alex's like clearly he doesn't know the name of the article. Right. The editorial is called From a China Traveler. We know this because we went over it. Because we've gone over this. Yeah, in the end game coverage and what have you.

You Google it. It's the first thing that fucking comes up from a China traveler. Oh, the New York Times even still has it posted. It's the number one response on here. Yeah, but that's the New York Times. Google is suppressing it. Oh my God. There's so many other versions of it that have been posted here on and then also a bunch

of really weird conspiracy theory sites course that that post that. Oh, good for them. Yeah, good on them. Yeah. Yeah. It's all about coverage. It's all about coverage. Yeah.

All publicity is good publicity, Dan. Also, Alex said that it was when Mao died. He wrote that. That article was written in 1973. Mao died in 1976. Patty Patty. I'm not. That's a substantive.

I know. I know. I know. So this might be a little petty. In this next clip, Alex tries to rewrite his own Sandy Hook history. All right. And let's see if this passes. Does he use crisis actors to demonstrate how different he is now?

No. No. Well, let's see. Let's see if he passes any kind of smell test for us as people who have watched his transformation over time. Okay. Okay. I entertain people looking at anomalies and things with Sandy Hook.

And I found out that some of the anomalies were just that anomalies. But I believe that the shooting happened. But we have so much lying in history by government and others. It's totally normal to be able to question something. But it doesn't matter. All these years later, it's then misrepresented what I've said and what I've done in lawsuits and in the news. But before I was ever sued, I said, you know, I can't say that it's fake.

I think people have a right to question anything they want. They can say the moon's made of cheese if they want. True. Can they? But I, no mass shootings happen. And they're a bad thing. They're very rare. And I just don't like them when, you know, people are involved in those type of things.

They then become anti-God and try to tell gun owners that we're to blame. Ah. See, that hasn't really been a good sales job telling gun owners you're to blame for another prozac head with an illegal gun does. Who is also a gun? I'm trying to make it like Alex Jones is saying bad things about the families and the victims of Newtown, which isn't true. And then never show the quotes or never show the statements.

Just say it. You get to recycle the tragedy, the anti-gun tragedy over and over in the media. I'd just like to refer everyone back to that clip we just played where he said they were all actors and no one died. So fuck you. You pile of shit. It's not just that nobody died that he thought some people died, but it was proven that nobody died.

It was convinced that it was all actors. It's even worse than if he had just denied it outright. He implied that he was convinced. We've complained about this and gone on this journey many times. The reason I say fuck you sincerely from that clip is like he's talking about how he later said it did happen, which is fairly accurate. He did come around to that eventually, maybe because shit was getting too hot. That's not the issue.

The issue is you pretend you never did. That is the issue. If you just deal with this in reality, you don't have to lie. That's all. That's all. It's infuriating to me. You know what? What's interesting, by that same logic though, consider this.

If Trump came out and just was like, I didn't know it was happening, that the Russians were talking to my family. I just found out that it was, and you know what? I'm sincerely sorry about that. That was never my intention to collude with the Russian government. I apologize for these people who did it without my knowledge. No, you can't do that. He said that publicly and sincerely.

No. Here's why you can't do that. Why? In Alex's case, there's no one but himself that is in, like, has the finger pointed at them from his admission. If Trump were to say that, he would be throwing his family under the bus. Exactly. And he doesn't actually like any of them.

He's a psychopath. Sure. But that doesn't matter. That would be an admission that would work against these other people that could then flip and be like, he's lying. Right. I have evidence that he's lying. He does have to do the whole cabal thing.

He can't do that. Whereas all Alex needs to do, like to use Game of Thrones terms, he just needs to bend the knee to the truth. That's all he has to do. He just has to be like, I know that I said these things. I fucked up. That's all you have to do. There's no, like, I don't want him to go to prison.

I don't want him to. I do. Well, maybe for other stuff. I don't want him kicked off air. I don't want any of that stuff. I do. I want him to come correct. I want him to be right with the con because you can still lie into fraud people and not

like, like, you don't have to lie this time. As we've proved in our Project Camelot episodes, the problem is that like when we were just talking about our last episode, when the guy's like, why have so many of us gone to jail? And it's like, no, you can fraud people. Yeah. Just, just pull it back. Like Icarus, these people fly too close to the sun. I know.

You get greedy with your con. Yeah. I mean, that's why Jim Baker went to prison. Yeah. That's why Sean David Morton's in prison. That's why Mark Richards is in prison. Greed. Right.

And I mean, I think there's a cautionary tale for all these con men. It's as old as time, if they studied the pantheon of Western culture that they seem to love so much as a lot, a lot in the mythology that could probably help them out with that. There's a lot. You know, it's almost like those were some sort of like a tale about morality and the way that you should use or not use. Sort of. It's so strange.

It's almost like the past is trying to teach you. It's very weird. So I'm going to skip some of these clips because I think we've pretty much beat the dead horse of Alex's self-defense about the Sandy Hook shit. Yeah. Like he doesn't say anything all that like interesting about, like, because he knows he's in court. Like he knows that.

Well, yeah. He can't, he can't go whole hog. Right. So he's just doing this like, hey, you know, what they do is they take one word at a time and quotes to make it look like I said something that I didn't. No one has any clips of me. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All this happens.

Like it's kind of boring. Let's get, let's get past that and get into some juice. So here he's complaining about Xi Jinping being in Davos a couple of years back. Yeah. I'm not worried about that. You should. Davos part I'm fine with. I think it's the stuff that he's doing now.

Alex doesn't bring that up. Oh, he doesn't. He went to Davos. Right. And he says that, like, you know, with Trump being this, uh, there's weirdo ding dong and he's going to abdicate the role of world leader. Um, I'll, we'll help out. That was his sort of, uh, take Davos that will pick up the slack and try and help, uh,

with world unity. Uh, and that sort of thing, uh, which Alex, of course, because world unity is a very negative thing for him. Xi Jinping has a very different idea of world unity under his, uh, under his rule. I don't want that world unity. No, thank you. She backed this one off. Don't even be.

Yeah. I don't want you to be part of China's unity. The way you're treating Taiwan is fucking insane. I don't want none of you. That's fair. Um, but that's not, uh, that's not where Alex is coming from. And I really really keep this in because he's going out to break. And, uh, I would say this boy is shook.

China's z to promote globalization at Davos, not war and poverty. But he go, that was before he went, you can find the quotes where they're declaring war on us and our prosperity and our freedom and have SJW is trained in malice philosophy, which Rockefeller thought was the best. He funded education ready to man all the computers, all the terminals, all the censorship to be the blue city and blue state cops to suppress everybody. And they're rolling out a 21st century. This is world war four folks.

This is it. America's under attack. The globalists are doing it. What? And all I'm trying to do is fight these people. War four. Did we skip one? Look how he's getting attacked.

Was that not looking? We're going to lose everything if people don't stand up and speak out. And now Fox News behind the scenes is threatening to fire Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity for not attacking me. All right. Wait. All right. That was, that was a sting to the end of that.

You guys need to attack Alex Jones in your fire. Yeah, that's Fox News all up and down. Totally. Oh, I've never heard anything more reasonable said about Fox News. Seems very in line with their editorial positions. Listen, you guys, essentially Alex Jones is now we need you to attack Alex Jones. If they were to attack otherwise we'll fire you for being to Alex Jones. If they were to attack Alex Jones legitimately the only position that they could take is

like plagiarism. Yeah. He's too much like us now. Exactly. It would have to be some sort of like step off our toes. Yeah, exactly. They couldn't, they couldn't attack him on merit. Hey, hey, hey, quit being racist over there.

That's my job. We've claimed that space. Yeah. That's ours now. It's very weird. We're the West and you Alex now are the people that you want the West to trample on. Alex, you're very full of displacement, fears and anxieties about whiteness. Tucker Carlson has now done possibly a better job because he doesn't yell all the time.

He's a more palatable face for your racism. Right. You have been outdone. First off, he shaved. It's true. Wait, did Alex shave? No, no. Tucker shaved.

Yeah, Tucker shaved. He shaved the bow tie. That was important. Gotta shave that bow tie, boy. Is that where it went? Yep. You know once you shave a bow tie it doesn't grow back. Yeah, that's right.

I'm a yes and kind of character. I like to play improv games. Fair enough. I said that's right. Didn't negate you. I'm sorry. He just said it real quick. You're just that's right.

Play the tape back. Anyway, so we move along. And in this next clip, Alex is coming back from break after that. Yeah. And he has some words about a gentleman from the UK. Who sucks? No, no, no, no. Good news.

No, Robinson. No, I read about this. It's been ordered released from jail. We're not even sure if that's happened yet. I'm talking to his folks, getting information as it unfolds. Because as we said, others pointed out under common law and under British law and US law. Admiralty. He didn't even have a real hearing.

He was in less than one hour after he was arrested. He was put into prison for saying he covered a trial of Islamic pedophile gangs. But you didn't even cover it. I mean, you're not supposed to go inside and say what you heard. Because there's minors or whatever involved to protect the children. We can't talk about the pedos. Of course. So I have four problems with that, I think.

Yeah. Itemize them. The first coming at the end there, like, yeah, yeah. Protect the fucking children's identities, you asshole. That is absolutely just a standard of like legal and journalistic integrity. Nope. You absolutely put them out there. All that shit under wraps.

Crisis actors. So that's one. Just scoffing about the idea of like protecting children who are victims of something's privacy. How could you? Second thing, I don't know why he's bringing up US law. He's in England. I don't know why he brought that up. Common law, UK law, US law.

US law doesn't come into the equation. Brexit law means they have adopted all of our laws. First amendment. Next. Sweet. Third issue. Next. Two solved.

Crisis actors, US law, Brexit, et cetera. Move on. Second issue is that he's saying that Tommy was put into prison without a hearing, and that's because he had a suspended sentence from another time he was harassing a bunch of Muslims. And the judge was like, if you do this again, we're going to put you in prison. We're going to let you off this time, but you have a suspended sentence. So he did it again.

He got arrested. You get thrown straight in prison. You don't need a hearing at that point. That's basically you've broken parole. You will go to prison until you get another hearing on that. You have waived your right to not be put into a cell. Fourth amendment, Dan. Fair enough.

My fourth problem is the idea that he wasn't covering this stuff. I mean, I guess I agree with that. He was rabble rousing. Covering is such a, the connotation on covering is very different from what he was doing, which is being a giant dick in public. Right. Much like that Logan Robertson character that we met recently. He was going around and just trying to antagonize Muslims, hoping to one attacks him.

And then he gets video of it. And he's like, look at these angry, violent Muslims. And he was doing the lingual version of throwing a brick at somebody's window and then claiming you're the victim whenever they're mad at you. Yeah, beating you up. Yeah. It's like, I mean, I know that Jackass is sort of the touchstone of like prank shows. Even they wouldn't do something like that.

Like even they wouldn't like be like, okay, we're going to fuck with people and then pretend that we weren't fucked with. So it's so ridiculous. So those are my four issues. I think you've beat down three of them, but one stance. One stance. Not much I can do about that. Yeah.

16th Amendment. Is that the one about booze? That was 18th, right? Yeah. I don't remember the numbers. Yeah. So at this point, we've seen a little bit of bullshit, a little bit of nonsense. Mostly he's talked about China for a lot of this.

Right. And not in any substantive way. He's not talking. He does bring up the intercept. Yeah, of course. He does bring up Greenwald, but he doesn't talk about the specifics of things. He just talks about like, of course, I already knew this. I had secret documents.

I had secret documents talking about how they're going to, you know, like China now has control of the entire cloud. So he's bringing in false narratives in order to tie into new revelations that are pressing and from more reputable sources than him. He's trying to combine his past narratives into newer, fresher meat. And so he spends a lot of time on that and then just screaming about the Falun Gong. And fair enough, but why don't you ever talk about the Rohingya? Like why, where do you draw the line?

What's the issue? Like where is... Political expedience. Whose victimhood do you care about, Alex? Well, no, because the Buddhists, the Falun Gong folk are not necessarily... No, no, no. I know. I mean, like at the end of...

That's the whole reason that this is just a throwaway. No, he talks about that a lot. He talks about the Falun Gong a lot. He talks about the Falun Gong a lot? But I asked that rhetorically, essentially. It's because they're in China. He hates China. And so he...

Right. Some victimized group in China gets precedents over some Muslims who are being slaughtered somewhere else in a country that he doesn't have a vested interest in trying to demonize. So anyway. We talked about that intercept, or we texted a little bit about it. And your response I found to be a much more direct and apt, and I would say better than mine, which was your response was like, yeah, duh. Which...

I needed a durr kind of like emoji. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like... Because I read the intercept article and I was like, Jesus, I can't believe they're actually building this app that will be Google, but will censor everything on its own. And then you said like, yeah, of course they are. And I was like, oh yeah, of course they are.

Why would I ever consider that they wouldn't be? Well, because you remember the true version of what Alex lies about in terms of the cloud keys and stuff like that. Yeah. The real version of that is that they have given the Chinese government the cloud keys over Chinese users. Exactly. People within the country of China, and that is an incredibly oppressive tool that could

be used by the government against the citizens. Right. And the fact... Could already. Right. The fact that people came out were like, this is a really messed up thing for them to do. And Google was like, we don't give a shit. That leads me to believe anytime I hear something like this that has some credible backing to

it. Yeah. No shit. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, no shit. Google wants money. A moral outfit that... That's a huge market.

But at the same time, I don't think that that means that they're going to deploy this version of it in China in order to get it back here. No. I don't think that that's reasonable in any way. Not until Xi Jinping unifies the world. Well, yes. In which case we're in trouble. Right.

At that point, you know, you just get some dragons. Right. Takes over all of the rest of the world. Right. I've been brushing back up on Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah? Yeah. How to take a break from this horror and watch the Red Wedding while we were talking.

Something like that. That's what's great about that is that just today... You mean any watching Game of Thrones? No, no, no. Him talking about China. China? China is that just today an 80 year old, not activist, but like fucking critic of the... Jay Sherman?

No, unfortunately. He didn't make it to 80. He died of heart disease at 74. Rest of peace. Yeah, for sure. He did it. No, while he... Do you hear that Duke Phillips became president in 2016?

He did. Yeah. It was based on him. Oh, boy. Where are the bears? That's saying far down. All right. Let's just show this to a critic reference show.

I'm so good. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail you with that. Oh, man. I don't... 80 year old dude in China was giving an interview to a website and was literally arrested during the middle of the interview. They actually went to his place and fucking placed him under house arrest.

His last words to the interview were like, hey, I'm allowed to do this, right? And then it was cut off. That's the situation that we're talking about with Google's search results. Sure. It is absolutely immoral and insane for them to actually do this, but why would we expect anything else? No, totally. Why in God's name would you expect a massive corporation that is global, that has no allegiance

to any nation or anything like that, and is purely about making profit, which is what it is supposed to do? Why would we ever imagine that they would take a fucking stand? There's no piece where morality affects your stocks. Yeah. Why would any business really care all that much about it? Yeah. I mean, my best go is I don't order anything from Amazon.

I don't want Jeff Bezos to have another fucking dime from me. Sure. That means anything. Yeah. But more to the point, what you're saying is, and I agree with this, and I think this is a better thing, is that there are real problems with China and the way they behave and stuff like that. There's a lot of human freedom in terms of the kind of world we would like everyone

to be allowed to live in, and it does a disservice to them when Alex lies about these things, because the serious issue is undercut by the things that he's lying about, and he's just bullshitting and screaming in order to make himself elevated as a truth teller or whatever. That's a theme that's going to play out, and it has played out over this podcast's entire history. Alex Jones does a disservice to real serious issues by lying about them. He pretends he's on the right side of it, and that he's against China because he loves liberty.

Sure. But that conversation could be much better served by people who have nuanced thoughts about it, who don't scream all the time, don't yell that this is World War Four, America is under attack. You know, that sort of thing. What was World War Three, though? Don't worry about it. Probably Cold War.

I don't know. Who knows? I don't know. I kind of want to know, though. You see, I want to know what he thinks World War Three is. I don't want to know what World War Three was. I want to know what he thinks it was. I kind of know, but I can't really articulate it.

Yeah. It's more just like... It's just a general vibe. Like it was just the World War Three vibe. Yeah, it's like a behind the scenes World War that's been going on for, I don't know. And then there was an armistice. It ended with Trump. It ended with Trump.

But then they started World War Four after Trump. Trump reached rapprochement. Uh-huh. I was like saying that word. I know. You've said it quite a bit recently. Yeah. You've found Detente and then war broke out again.

I don't know. It was arbitrage? I don't know. I think I've heard some decently eloquent people who aren't crazy make the point that you could argue that something like the Cold War was a World War that we just weren't actively... You know, because there were the surrogate wars that happened. Well, yeah. Like that.

So like... Wars did occur all across the... Proxy wars. That were proxy wars. So yeah, you could say that. You could take that argument and fair play to them. We're not in World War Four right now. No.

Hopefully we will be soon. Fingers crossed. And if we are, it's because of this, what the globalists are doing. Okay. The globalists have demographically bet on communist China and radical Islam just because of demographic numbers. Demographically. They're not trying to get another earpiece during the break.

This has been doing this for two days. It just keeps popping out. I don't know what's going on. Uh, excuse me. Let's keep forgetting to ask for that. I'm going to ask now. So demographically, they have decided to make this move. It's just, it's been done.

We've been sold out. And then Trump's in there valiantly trying to fix it without getting too extreme because that could tank the stock market if he said, ladies and gentlemen, our entire government database was given to China. All our secrets were wide open. They have way more industrial might than we do. We've been totally sold out. They've got their operatives in charge of almost every university.

The council on fine relations directs it. America is, is basically in a horrible position. Nope. Well, we are now, but that's because of, you know, yeah, you know, it's another horrible position. What trade war? Oh, I thought it was, I thought it was reverse missionary. No, that's a bad, that's a bad position too.

Yeah. He goes on to scream about like, uh, we gave them the, the, uh, the canal Panama canal. We gave him that canal. Look into that. It's private. We gave it to him. Private businesses. No, we gave it to him.

We gave it to him. It's just like all of this stuff. I mean, we already talked about on a past episode, the idea that they run all the universities. There's just a Chinese center that's very sketchy on a lot of, uh, universities. Yeah. That's not, they run the university. Oh, they're implanted and running it. It's not, that's not what's going on.

They, again, it's the same thing. It's like, if you look at the truth of that situation, uh, which I apologize, I don't have all the information in front of me because we went over it before. Yeah. And I was like, oh yeah, this is, this is weird, this is weird. The reason that universities accepted is because they don't have robust Chinese language programs. And so they accept it because it offers them for free as a service to the school. It's great.

And they get, uh, they get hooked into this possibly, uh, the sketchy group. You know, they also have ROTC programs. It's true. Nobody wants to join the fucking military, but you know, they're going to give us some fucking funding so we can do some shit. Maybe we should have better funded public universities. Ah, maybe we wouldn't have this issue, Alex, if we had publicly funded universities, or maybe we wouldn't have this issue if the most, uh, paid public servants in this fucking country

weren't head football coaches at fucking places like that. Maybe you should all fucking die. I did demographic. Anytime he says demographically, and then we, God, that's such the most racist thing you can say demographically, we've been sold out. So demographically, the bad guys have chose the Chinese and the Muslims. Yeah. Yep.

Who's the demographic that they not America? No, cause Chinese people in Americans are, can both be taken away. They, that's a very, uh, compatible. It seems like, Oh, are there Muslim Americans? Yeah. It's also compatible. Yeah. Yeah.

Can't be talking about Americans. Hmm. This is foreign to Alex Jones is rhetoric. It seems so odd. Why would you say demographically? Is he talking about the four quadrants? Is that it? Is that it?

You're talking about Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, four quarters. Oh, sorry. Excuse me. Now, dude, that's all just that displays for your bullshit. God. It's all just, uh, white. God, I want to, I want to, I just want white people to take a break. Yeah.

Can we just take a break? Chill out. Let's say everybody just relax for a moment. Take a drink from the hose. Yeah. As if it was a football practice. Go drink from the hose. Yeah.

Exactly. Just get on over there. Yeah. A lot of football talk recently. Take a knee, white people. Uh, so in this next clip, this is actually really fascinating because I think there's another instance of this later, not the exact same thing, but there's a, there's a fascinating thing that Alex does rhetorically wherein he's describing what people do.

He's claiming to be on the, the business end of it. Okay. But in the clip, he's actually doing the thing he's accusing other people of doing. This is, this is remarkable. Like I listened to this. I'm like, that's high level Jedi fucking judo right there. I really don't think it is. I don't think he even knows he's doing it.

Oh, you don't think he knows. I think it's muscle memory. You think he's just an instinctive judo prodigy. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. We'll see if you agree on the other end of this clip. All right. And the coastal elite, not the people that live there, but the elites that just stay

there and, and control it and suck off everybody freezing suck off everybody. They just have a predatory disdain because we were marked as the enemy. And one thing about war is you demonize your enemy war because most people aren't psychopaths. They're just mercenary follower cowards. So they want to believe what they're destroying is bad. So the universities in Hollywood and the culture is America's bad. America's evil. America sucks.

Get rid of America. Families are bad. Men and women are bad. You know, a teacher, five year old, how to be gay. And I'm not attacking people that aren't heterosexual, but in China, they execute you, give your gay. So you see what he did there? That's pretty amazing.

That's like a gymnastic maneuver that he pulled. That was astonishing. Right. He's even explaining in the clip with this is war. You demonize your enemies. People say things like hate the globalists or liberals are the cause of all of our problems or we should kill people who are different than us or every muslim is a terrorist. Like people say these things all the time and it's just not true.

They're just trying to demonize their enemy. You don't even have to go that far. You can just take what he said in that clip, you know, they hate the mother and father. They think man and women are bad. Just the very pure like, you're demonizing your enemy as we speak and then blaming other people for demonizing their enemy. But it's war. It's war.

War. Now we're going to get into news radio. What is it good for? What is it good for? I don't know. When the super karate monkey death car comes to my hut, absolutely nothing. Your response there is supposed to be say it again. I like doing a prop game.

I like doing it. I would have gone with yes and but I didn't. So the rest of this episode is going to fear fairly into pedophilia in Hollywood, great, which I'm sorry to jump on you here in the middle of the episode. But Alex, he knows that he's got to, you know, not talk too much about his lawsuits and what have you. He's got to do what he does best, which is sensationalize real world issues. And in doing so, he ends up bringing on a guess that I think is probably going to lead

to another lawsuit. I don't, I don't, I don't see any way around like, I don't think this is like, I don't think what he does at the end of this episode is legal in any way. Like I know he keeps prefacing it by saying that like, I don't know if I should have this guy on. I don't know if I should let him say these things like he, he is like at least, you know, being like, this might be really bad. I don't know what the definition of hubris is or whether or not I am flying too close

to the sun. Right. I'm not talking about a parking suit, but what if like, isn't it double jeopardy where you can only be sued one time per day? Like you only get one lawsuit against you in your entire life. Yeah. So he gets into it here and then he's going to jump off the topic for a bit and then get back to it.

But this is where it kind of starts. He wants to brag a bit about his in depth knowledge of Hollywood. All right. If you want the really big role, you got to screw a, you know, 10 year old and you're like, are you joking? They're like, maybe I am. Maybe I'm not. I'm not to kick your ass.

I'm just joking. I'm just joking because I've been in Hollywood at A-list parties, which you think are so cool. There was no oxygen. They were all unhappy and neurotic. Everybody's like mentally ill. You couldn't pay me to be around. That's why I got away from it all.

I thought it was a way to reach out to people. It's not cool. And folks are like, well, you probably want to get out of here before the kids arrive. And I'm like, yeah, you're joking around. I think it's time for us to go. Okay. Okay. And then, you know, you walk into back rooms at restaurants and it's like, these girls

are sure pretty, man, but I think they're about 16 years old, you know? What? And that's just, that's out in the open. What restaurant? My soul's like, get out of here. So, I don't know. You don't know. The back room of the restaurant is very clearly.

Is that like Benihana's? No, but it is a call back to people. Everybody who listens to his show and believes his worldview, that's a call back to the back room of a comet pizza. Yeah. That's the pizza. The whole thing was that back room where they have parties, like where they have like birthday parties and stuff like that.

There was something nefarious about that back room. So him saying the back room of restaurants, well, he may not be talking about that. That is what is evoked in the mind of the listener. Now, what he's describing there as a Hollywood A-list party that he's been to, he tells that story three times on this episode and does not give any more details than what he just said there. And I would argue that it more accurately represents the planes that that one dude and Trump were on.

Oh, Epstein. No, I think that it's some guy wanting Alex to leave a party. If I have to play Occam's razor games, I'm going to say that no one is going to go up to Alex and be like, Hey, there's going to be some kids showing up at this party unless they want him to leave because he's bumming everybody out at this fucking party. Everybody's trying to have a good time, trying to have some cocktails and this guy won't stop yelling about building seven. We got to get him out of here.

Right. This is a bummer. Right. So, and we can't confront him. No, because he's going to fight. Because he's going to freak out. And then he's going to. So we got to creep him out.

His eyes are going to turn red and then he's going to be beating your head into the ground until you're in a coma. Right. He's going to turn off. He calls that goblin mode. He's called it that. He has not called it that. He does on this episode.

On this episode. I don't think I've ever heard him call it that. He calls it goblin mode. He watches a lot of movies for somebody who hates Hollywood. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Are we talking Lord of the Rings goblins?

Like what goblins are we talking about? I don't know any goblins that just beat your head into the ground until you're in a coma and your dad gets sued because Lord of the Rings goblins are very industrious. They're like they, they're, they're like the analog of the dwarves. They live underground and mountains and build goblins like hobgoblins. They're generally just considered like weirder people. That's why they got the hob at the beginning. Exactly.

They're not quite goblins. They're not quite hobgoblin goblins. Exactly. Yeah. I don't know. I don't care. But this. Fine.

I'm sorry. I'm very goblin centric in my thinking. I'm sorry that I don't really have a lot of thoughts. I want to know more about goblins. We'll do that on another episode. Okay. Because I'm sure the project came a lot at some point. It's into goblins.

Sooner or later we're going to have a goblin centric conversation. Undoubtedly. So that clip is foreshadowing for things to come. But before he gets into the meat of this and possibly runs astray of the law, he has to play a little bit more self-defense. Uh-huh. Because recently we didn't cover this on an episode, but you know, it's all, you can find it on Right Wing Watch, Media Matters, all of them covered it.

Alex got real weird and did some finger guns and was threatening Robert Mueller a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Politically. Politically. All that. And everybody's like, look at him threatening Robert Mueller.

Like, hey guys, if you really care about that, go back to the clip that we posted where Larry Nichols literally threatened to blackmail him. Like that's a literal illegal threat that he made on there. As opposed to this where Alex can be like, I'm just using metaphors and stuff like that. So but he realizes he's got to, he's got to talk about that a little bit. He's got to, you know, explain himself. And what he ends up doing is crazy. This is so weird because he takes you inside his mind.

What was his mind doing when he said those things? That's a good question. It's so weird. I would like to know what his mind was doing. This is very, very weird. And then there's criticism of Tucker Carlson and others because they said, well, Alex didn't perfect, but a lot of that's out of context and, you know, my God, look at the stuff, you know, that Bill Maher says, and he says, abort all the babies and he hopes

America implodes and he wants to have a depression, but that's okay. Well, one thing no one likes Bill Maher and no, he's a blowhard douche. Yeah, he sucks. Yeah. And the other thing is he's a comedian and he's not even a good one. He's not, but he, you give him a little bit of a pass, not, not that he deserves much of one, but in terms of those things, he's not saying that literally, he's using an attempt at humor because he's a comedian.

Right. Anyway, like it would be like a, for instance, if you, if you had your, your Cernovich right wing blow up, well, no, no, no, no, no, let me give you a better, let me give you a better example. There's a reason we never talk about like Nick DiPallo on the show or something like that, you know? Oh, oh, is there? Yeah.

He's a comedian. He's terrible. But there's other, he was pretty good for a while though. Yeah. Yeah. He was great on Dr. Katz. He was great on Dr. Katz. There's a, there's a lot of, they're not a ton, but there are a number of like right

wing leaning comedians and there's no reason to ever like be like, oh, look at what they're doing. Cause most of the time they're trying to be funny and they say things that are fucking awful. Yeah. And then there's an attempt at humor there in the same way that like, I don't like Bill Marr. I don't think anyone I know who's on the left likes Bill Marr.

I think the most think he's a shithead. Yeah. But he's trying to be funny. And Islam is, is the lomaphobic master fucking shithead. Yeah. Absolutely. And he's a problem, but you know, the statements that he makes about wanting depopulation so there's less traffic, that's just a hacky joke.

Right. That's just a shitty joke. He doesn't want to depopulate the world. So he has less traffic. Yeah. You're acting in bad faith if you take that literally. Yeah. It's a monologue joke.

Right. Leno probably made that joke 20 years ago. Probably. Yeah. Different delivery. There you go. They can all say kill Trump, kill Trump, kill Trump, kill Trump, kill Trump, kill Trump, kill Trump.

Politically. Politically. I want to have a political shootout with Robert Mueller. The last thing I want is Mueller to get hurt, turn him into a, into a victim, into a martyr. There's a reason that his mind went to, went to victim first. I would, that's the worst offense. That's the worst offense. It's not good.

But the reason- I want to kill him, but I can't because then he would turn into a victim. If I strike him down, he'll become ten times as strong. Yeah, exactly. No, you guys don't get it. I really want to kill him, but I don't want to kill him. Right. It's not worth it for me.

Yeah. But the other thing is the reason that his brain comes up with victim before martyr is because that's what he cherishes. He cherishes his victim status. Right. He doesn't want to become a martyr. Or his artificial victim status as it were. So that's why his mind cooks that up.

Martyr means he doesn't get made. He doesn't make money anymore. Everybody knows I'm against offensive violence. It's not who I am. Nope. Nope. He's for offensive violence. I mean, not offensive violence.

But they're always saying I'm violent, so I said, why don't I, I said a little split second thing. I do this a lot. So it was premeditated, but not really. It's kind of like a spontaneous, like love at first sight, hate at first sight. It was like, it was thought out, but like in 10 seconds, it was like, mother makes me so sick the way he's railroading everybody having fake trials and breaking the constitution and spying on Manafort's phone calls in jail with his lawyers totally illegal.

Gosh, it's so crazy. I think he's doing all of that. He's involved for 10 years with the Alita Express, with all these world leaders on it, having sex with reportedly his kids as young as seven. Like Trump. They whitewashed at the 14, 13 year olds. They're being taken to sex islands. That's whitewashing it.

And sex sheiks. Did he just say sex islands with sex sheiks with sex sheiks? It's like who's not a sex sheik, the iron sheik. I will tell you what you need to do. Say that five times fast. I prefer sex boat, a great song by a rapper friend of mine named FM cat about the Minnesota Viking sex boat scandal. Oh, I remember that one.

Fred, smooth. Oh, Fred, smooth with hair rooms is nightmare stuff in the Middle East and makes me mad. And I said, you know, Mueller rape kids right in front of you, but that's not what he does. He doesn't do it reportedly. He just watches it and uses it to blackmail people, which is confirmed. What? Defined, confirmed. And the media goes, it's crazy.

I confirmed it. He claims that Mueller's in a pizza place. Rampant people never said that. They just mix it all together. And that's crazy. But you know what? That news got out. I mean, getting out there saying, I don't want to do this for real, but I mean, politically,

you know, high noons, spaghetti Western music, we're going to take these globalist out politically. And they turn that into, you're being violent, you're threatening us. So at the end there, you kind of get the sense of what he's really, he's pretending that in his head, what I did is I made up this bit on the spot, although I had some preconceived. I mean, I planned it out in advance, but it was made up. Much like I wrote some lines for this battle rap ahead of time.

Yeah. Then I got into the cipher and I came up with it off the dome. Off the dome. So I don't really care about that. That's just, it's fun that he's trying to deconstruct his mental process, which I think is ludicrous. But then at the end there, he's very clearly lying about what people are complaining about and saying, like saying, oh, this is what you said, no one's saying that stuff.

But then he gets to the meat of it, which is my story got out because I yelled about all that stuff. They covered it because of that. And so whatever fictitious narrative I was trying to push got so much more traction because you all covered it. And why should any, why does anybody fucking care? Right. That's why we didn't cover it.

The president fucking said, I hope second amendment people take care of Hillary. It's the same shit. He threatened violence. Why would anybody give a shit now if Alex Jones did? Yeah. Why? Who gives a shit if Alex Jones does it? The president fucking does it on a daily basis.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders wouldn't even say that the press wasn't the enemy of the free world or whatever. Yeah. What Alex says other than the fact that he is giving up their games, I don't give a shit about his, his violent rhetoric or all of that other bullshit. I give up the, I'm pissed off at the fact that he throws around exactly what you just said. The, and because of that, they gave me more coverage.

He's allowed to say exactly why he's saying it and nobody's covering that. But if he says the shit that you shouldn't cover, everybody fucking. I wish people, I wish the people with larger platforms and the people who are supposed to be the public watchdogs and what have you would understand the game a little bit better. Because he's giving it up. Right. No, it's just like anybody who's kind of too loose lipped will have inevitably like just say like, this is what I'm doing.

Exactly. And he does it all the time. If you just pay attention instead of just going for like the, like the, the chosen clip outrage douche or you'll hear it be just very clearly like you stepped into my trap. Yeah, you kind of did. Yeah, I don't know. Absolutely. Did I don't really know what else you can do.

Cause the other option is do what we do and right wing watch and media matters have way more traction than they're not very interested in that now. I mean, I think it would be interesting to see an article that just said, Alex Jones explains right wing media by saying they are going to say whatever it is I want to say, as long as I make a stupid dumb threat and then people pay attention. Right. I only have X amount of eyes that can go on. They have more.

Yeah. So I say something inflammatory and it tricks them into putting out the thing that I want them to put out, which is an accusation that Robert Mueller was involved with the Lolita Express and Jeffrey Epstein and watched people have sex with kids and then he has blackmail on them. Yep. You accidentally, not accidentally, you inadvertently put that message out into the world through your coverage of his sensational fake stuff, which is I'm going to have a political showdown

with him. Yep. It shows a lot more craftiness on his part in terms of like the times that he breaks down. And I actually think that there's this might be a tiny bit true on his end, like that he's doing that intentionally and part of it is saving face. Because I don't think if you watch like a times that he's said that he was doing this in the past, a lot of times you can just see like utter unhingement on his face. Like he's not thinking at all.

Yeah. Like almost spittling from his mouth and like he's red. So I don't think that I don't know. There's a possibility that he's a much better actor than we think, but I don't know. Boy, I don't know if he's a much better actor. Yeah. Hmm. I think he's a method.

I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, like it's a Stanislavski guy. Sure. Yeah. So in that last clip, like I said, he he went to victim instead of martyr for a reason. And that is relevant because of this next clip. We are back live into hour number two on the most demonized, most maligned, most lied

about, most persecuted radio slash TV transmission in the world. That would actually be friends. Sure. A lot of lies about friends. A lot of lies about friends on the radio. Just the radio version of friends, though. Um, so I mean, like what that, I mean, all you hear there is coming back from break and wearing your false victim hood like a badge.

Yeah. The idea that people supposedly lie about him, the fact that he thinks he's persecuted is what gives him validity in his own mind and what he projects onto the mind of his listeners. So the idea of claiming the space of victimhood is so fucking important to him without ever, you know, really playing that card. You have to it in his world. It's so weak to be a victim that he can never be like, we're the victim of all

this stuff, but he has to say everything, but you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the only way it works for him. You have to project the strong victim. You're the victim simply because everybody else is so weak, right? Everybody else is so much weaker than you. They feel like they have to like gang up on you when you're even, even then, you're so much stronger than them.

You can survive being the victim, but only because you're such a great victim and you're always a victim, but they're the weak ones. It's stupid. No, totally. It's stupid. Absolutely. Um, but it's so important to his, uh, like continued existence. So, uh, earlier, uh, we had that, uh, clip where Alex was talking about the

globalists have chosen demographically, the Chinese and the Islamic Muslim populations of the world, like, huh, that's, that sounds kind of racist. And then he decides to take it to the nth degree in this next clip. The, the africaners and others are Dutch. They're basically like Amish. No, no, don't talk about the movements for the Reformation 300, 400, 500 years ago to get away from all the sectarian wars in Europe and the rest of it.

So people left to Africa. They left all over and you can bet you about them all day, but then everybody wants to get into the countries that Protestant Christian worth ethics set up of don't steal from people, have just courts, that mean we're perfect. But everybody wants to get in the white Protestant countries. Hmm. Hmm. At the end, it might have been a little too overt night a little, a little bit

too overt there at the end. And I would also like to pause it that there's a possible, I don't know. This just seems to me like there's a small chance that the reason people might now want to get into traditionally white Protestant countries is that those countries have a history of colonialism and have spent the last centuries completely decimating and strip mining the other countries for gain and profit. Um, uh, maybe that's the reason that those white Protestant countries are now in the position of being in a much more comfortable, better position than

countries in sub-Saharan Africa and in South America. I don't know. Maybe. Is I, you know, what was interesting to me is that the people who wanted most to get into white Protestant countries really wanted to get into those countries before the white Protestants took it away from them. You know, like the Native Americans, the first nations really wanted to get into that white Protestant country of North America.

And, and then, oh man, somebody stole it. Somebody stole it. Yeah, that is weird. Somebody just fucking murdered all of them and stole it. And now somehow they're like, oh, we want it back. You only want it back because we stole it the first time, Dan. You just triggered a, like a thought that I'm embarrassed. We've not brought up.

Was that Alex always talks about how the Muslims are so evil because of the crusades and like them like spilling into Europe and conquest and stuff like that in the like 700s and what happened with the Western people coming to America, you know, like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'd never really, I'm in no idea what you're talking about. I'm embarrassed that I never put those pieces together because I was too busy, like, you know, looking into like, oh, what was the nature of things in Europe around that time with all those countries flipping, you know, lines of

demarcation everywhere, every five years or so. And they weren't really even countries. They were, you know, a lot of the places were city states at that point. There was no real combined identity of like Italy or any of that shit. Um, and I never even put the pieces together of like, best example of this is really what white people just did with America. Yep. Yep.

That's the exact thing. Yep. Crazy. Yep. But everyone wants to get into white Protestant countries and you can't take that away from Alex. Man, white people really wish history hadn't happened. Well, history is fake news.

Everything that white people do, it seems like is like in defiance of reality. Not true. We might be aliens. Not real. Like, have we considered that we might be the only people that are not of this planet? No, I mean, physiologically, we're all the same. Oh, I don't think that. I don't know.

I don't know. See, there's some sort of evil gland. Do we have a, like, is the pineal gland also evil for white people? Is that like a thing? See, the problem, the line that you're walking down now is that you're going to end up at demons before too long. Maybe you're going to end up in the same territory as Alex. Maybe.

But just about saying white people are demons. We'll never know if white people need to be banished from this earth until we banish white people from this earth. And then maybe we'll find out it was a good or a bad idea. But I think you got to do stuff first. It's better to ask forgiveness from the white people that you've jettisoned into space than it is to ask for permission to jettison white people into space.

Interesting. I think that makes sense. You would fit right in with that New York Times lady, but the right wing is all fake mad. Oh my God, guys, go to bed. Yeah, fucking piss your pants somewhere else. Get a diaper. That's a great way to put it.

Also, New York Times, New York Times leadership. Fucking shut up. Yeah, go home. There are no heroes here. Go home. There's one heroic group in history. Well, I only say this because they're fairly close to my lineage. Oh, yeah, that's the Amish.

I do have to respect a group that is built around the idea. Just leave us alone. Well, for the most part, and they're also built around the idea. Like, you know, the Amish and the Mennonites, who my family comes from at least one side of my family comes from Mennonites. And the like the Hooteraite, they all come from the Anabaptist tradition. And their whole idea was that you don't baptize children because they don't have a choice in accepting Jesus or not.

What? Well, but here's the thing. Personal choice? Disagree. In Europe, in Western tradition at the time, because of the church, adult baptism was illegal. You had to baptize every baby because what if they die, you know, before they're an adult?

Adult baptisms? Adult baptism was illegal? Yes, absolutely. Did not know that. Yep. So at the time, because they refused to baptize children and Baptists, they were slaughtered and run out of countries. And that's why the Mennonites and the Amish ended up being this victimized

class that were killed all over the place. They became nomadic peoples throughout Europe. And a lot of them ended up coming to America and settling in like Pennsylvania. There's a bunch of like hotbeds of Amish Mennonite communities. And my grandpa was actually a Mennonite preacher in, I don't know if it's Southern California, it's in California, like Fresno, who's in Fresno, California, low die before that. But so there's a lot of, you know, there's an interesting history to the

Anabaptist tradition that I think. I did not, I knew the, I knew the history of the Pennsylvania Dutch and the like, but did not know that. Not know the Anabaptist aspect of it. Fantastic. I'm glad to learn that. Yeah, it's very interesting. Like when I hated growing up, growing to Mennonite churches, because they're

mostly a bummer and right, they're school. Well, kind of, we lived in Columbia, Missouri, which was a city. People don't believe me when I say that, but it's a college town. It's okay. It's okay, dad. It's okay. You're preemptively defensive. You're preemptively defensive.

So there was like neighboring cities, like little small towns and what have you. And there was a Mennonite community of all of those, uh, those cities that would meet in Columbia, everyone would commute into Columbia. Like a barbecue. Yeah. And when I was younger, like maybe 10, 11 or so, we went to this Mennonite church and it was just such a goddamn bummer. Like all of the, like the, and this isn't his fault and this isn't even really

necessarily Mennonite, but the preacher was in a wheelchair. He was a quadriplegic and he spoke through like a trach hole. He had a microphone at his trach hole. It was terrifying as a kid. It was just so awful. And then the kids, the kids at the church were so much more evolved than me, but I was supposed to be the city kid cause I lived in Columbia and they all lived in the sticks.

Yeah. They were all fucking like 12. It was horrifying for me in that situation growing up. So I always had a really negative feeling about Mennonite ism and, and a baptism as a whole. But then I looked into it and I'm like, this is a, this, if there is a version of Christianity that's good, it's probably this one. They make great pies.

Yeah. The idea of, uh, you know, child baptism is not the, the way to go. Personal choice. I've risen up on that a little bit, but also you should get rebaptized as an adult, if you, if you mean it, the idea of like rum, springo with the Amish, the ability to go check out the world and personal choice, leave personal choice, all that. And then also there's such an emphasis on service within the Mennonite

community and the Amish community, the idea of like doing things for other people, even if you're not praised for it is really important. Yeah. I love that. Like as an adult, I've come to like, I wish I valued, um, the religious upbringing that I had more during that time. Yeah. Because later we ended up going to like a Baptist make a church and that was a

disaster. Oh, no, that's no good. That I don't look back on well, but the Mennonite stuff, I kind of have like a, a softening in my heart for, and all this is just to say Alex is about to lie about the end of baptism. Well, that's nice. I have no, uh, no, no sentimental feelings about any of my time in the church. Ever, ever.

Your cult was a little different. No, well, not even that, just like even from when we were past the cults and we were in just like regular ass churches, fuck that noise. Fuck those people. I hope they all fucking burn in hell. I don't give a shit. Sure. Well, I'll say that most of my life's experience was, um, with the Mennonites.

Alex is going to talk about the Amish and there are, there are, you know, there are differences. Absolutely. Absolutely. But the way I always answered the question whenever people would ask is I would say Mennonite is like Amish with electricity. There's more flexibility in terms of that. You can have a car.

You can wear buttons. Sure. Buttons are assigned a pride to the Amish. I don't like buttons, but they are allowed to wear like teal shirts now. So that's better. Look, reform Amish stuff is very progressive. Um, so colors are nice. All this is to say that I don't know everything about all of these worlds,

whether it's Mennonite or Amish, I don't know everything. Right. I know a bit. I'm pretty acquainted with it. No, some, I know enough to know that Alex knows nothing. You know, the Amish don't, all I know is that I know nothing. They're not eating gluttony state food. They don't use gluttony state and they don't take vaccines and they live longer

on average 10 years. Their birth defects are way lower, even though they have genetic inbreeding and they do not have autism. That is not true. This is an anti-vax propaganda. Yeah, that is such bullshit. Absolutely. They, uh, Mennonite community, the Amish community, all of them, uh, though

they do largely live separate from, uh, like urban centers and what have you. Uh, they, there have been studies that have been done. There is autism in the Amish community. There is vaccination that is done. All this is cruel, uh, nonsense propaganda, just trying to bank off the idea of otherness, the otherness of the Amish. It's like, Oh, they're a separate community. They don't have this.

It's, it's absolutely been debunked. This is also, why not if you're going to, if you're going to pull this like lifespan shit, talk, talk about Okinawa. Sure. Like they live longer and everybody looks the same until they're like 95. And then they get real old, real fast, but everybody's fine. That's cause they all eat rice. So yeah, sure.

Fine. Whatever. They don't get autism cause they eat rice. Fine. Rice vaccine. Yeah. You should have a rice vaccine. Look, dude, this is something that I've looked into quite deeply.

And the, this one, this is bogus. Not endorsing all the stuff. The Amish do, they have some secret program. People don't really know about that. I know about, well, I talked to some of the people they like to get highly decorated, army and Marine Corps officers who just so happened to be Dutch. To go and they pay them big money to stud out their daughters. So they get new tonight.

One line whole family sits in the room with you and they put a sheet between you, like Orthodox Jews do interesting. But it's just like breeding cattle. When did you see this? They pay them a lot of money. They do genetic testing, whole nine yards and then they stud them out. Little side factoids. Does it really matter?

I think about knowledge though. It's so addicting. Like you want to learn more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more. Cause there's just so much to know. Of course that kind of sounds wild. It's like going to a sperm bank. They just don't trust the sperm banks. No, it's not.

It's not like going to a sperm bank at all. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, it's like paying a stranger to fuck your daughter. That's very different from going to a sperm bank. I'll tell you this. Knowledge is addictive and you just want to learn and learn and learn and learn. That's true. So there's a number of problems with this.

The first, the first is that he's there at numbers. They're just one. Well, one is that the Amish community is like notoriously devout. Yeah. And one of the things that they would not ever allow is out of marriage sex. Oh, do you mean something that's very, they're not big on hiring Dutch soldiers to fuck their children in front of them through sheet with a sheet. Who's the sheet for first of all, who's the sheet for?

Well, do you know what this is? This comes from message boards. This comes from anonymous posts on message boards. Okay. There's a whole like rich tradition online of sort of like Amish fiction that has to do with the idea of how different that world is. Yeah. So people sort of do these slash fit.

Exactly. Yeah, they create these sort of ideas that like are believable enough to people who know nothing. Yeah. And then this one is sort of caught on a little bit in the internet world. Really? Yeah. The idea that they stood out.

Do like that's just a hodgepodge of like the moment he said, you know, like orthodox Jews do, you're like, all right, well, that's somebody who threw in a bullshit thing from what orthodox Jews do. And then just threw it in there. So the that's not even good. It's not even creative. Well, the idea that like, uh, that because there's two problems. One is if this daughter, is there only two?

Well, if this daughter isn't married, the Amish are against premarital sex. Right. So that would be a real big issue. Secondarily, if she is married, they're super against infidelity. So that is an issue. That is an issue. The reason that Alex thinks that this is real is because of again, what it comes back to is this other ring of other populations.

Right. So he and his head thinks, well, there's probably not many people choosing to become Amish. So they must be a completely isolated community and they must all be fucking each other. And at a certain point, you're just going to be fucking your sisters and your brothers, like all country folk do. Right.

So here's the problem. There are tons and tons of separate communities around the country. A lot of them fairly close together. Like the Pennsylvania Dutch is something that is notorious. It's not one group. There's a bunch of different groups. So often people will. It's not called Dave's Pennsylvania Dutch.

Right. The whole, it's not a franchise. You're part of this community over here, community A. And often there'll be a mixer with community B and you'll meet someone and marry someone from community B and then you'll have kids and then the kid that you have with someone from community B might have a kid with community C. It's not going to necessarily end up in direct inbreeding because it's not like community A, B or C is just one family.

It's just one guy. It's not, it's not nearly as small as Alex is presenting it. Like the idea that this is going to, within two generations, it's going to be all inbred babies. Yeah. It's not an emergency like that for the Amish. Well, even if it was, even if it was an emergency, whose idea was the, well, let's hire a Dutch soldier to fuck our daughters.

It's crazy. So who's, who's, who's problem solving skills wind up there? It doesn't seem like a, like a, like a succinct, uh, also the only reason he says Dutch is because they're called Pennsylvania Dutch and they're not Dutch. There is, there is a community that came from, uh, from, right. But the, the, the Pennsylvania Dutch were, were German, if I remember correctly. So, so he's just using, yeah, exactly. He's just using like the, the, a, a colloquial term for as, as, as an expansion.

But it's not like he's talking about Netherlanders. Because the issue is what I talked about earlier, the idea that Anabaptists were driven all around Europe. Right. The, there was a nomadic, uh, character to the people, to the, to the extent that like saying that they're Dutch or German isn't really the full picture of it. Right. There is like a multi, um, nationality, uh, lineage to that population.

Not least of which, because it was a religious thing, not a, uh, well, it's the thing that you can say about like the Romani, you can't say that they all come from X country. They're not, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's people who get forced around, uh, and end up, uh, in nomadic existences, which is much more tends to be that case. Yeah. So, because if you're a nomad, you wind up interbreeding with a

whole host of different people. Someone might come along with you as you pass through. There's, there's all kinds of, so that's because you tricked them with your gypsy wiles. You're not supposed to say that. I don't say it is a, oh, right. Anasazi, why did it right? I like these soft slurs that most people don't think are slurs.

It's crazy. No, I didn't, yeah, okay. So, um, just to put a fine button on this, shout out to my, my, my menos out there and my Amish peeps who are not allowed to wear buttons or listen to this podcast. That's true. But this is one of those things. I know that the only reason I'm driving this home so hard is because I, like,

I have a personal connection. Yeah, yeah. It's so offensive because of how much the narrative invalidates what those people believe, you know what I mean? Like there's no way they would choose this as an option because it would undo their faith to begin with. Right. Secondarily, there's no way that this is true because it comes from a fucking

message board. Right. And it way, but that's such a, that's such a thing. Like we've talked about a, a bunch of times where it's like, of course you assume they would do that because you have no belief in your actual beliefs. So you're like, well, yeah, why wouldn't they sell out everything that they believe I would do it? True.

There's that piece. And then there's also the fetishization of the community. You don't understand. Yeah. And it's very attractive to do that. It's very hard to stop yourself from being like, I believe the weird thing about this group, I think is weird. Yeah.

So, and also you would watch a Dutch soldier. Fuck a Amish lady through a sheet. Yeah, fuck yeah. The other thing too, when are you ever going to get the chance to do that again? Well, the other thing too is there were like those reality shows that came out. There were like that. I don't remember the name of it, but there was that one about like Amish justice where there was a guy with a big stick who would go around and like,

do you remember that? There was a terrible reality show with a big stick. Well, there's a terrible reality show about like how there was a mafia within the Amish communities. Okay. And that like if people fucked with them, then they had this enforcer guy who had a couple goons and like I was like, I watched that show and like this doesn't ring fucking true at all.

So I asked my dad, because my dad's obviously much more plugged in with right, right, right. Community is Amish communities around and he was like, this is one of the most laughable. It's so fake. It's absolutely one of the like, it's. It's literally like believing rock of love is how people date. It's literally that level of stupid and now it's just operating off that world.

And I'm not offended, but isn't that how Red Sonia dates? Are you talking about, uh, uh, that tall, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, those flavor of love. Oh, okay. Sorry, how dare you? Sorry, dare you? Sorry, validated yourself. Rock of love was with Brett Michaels for two seasons. And then there was the rock of love bus.

There was another, right? All right. It's just him. Uh, there's a rock of love bus and he was just banging groupies on a bus. Well, good for him. It was a mess. That's a good day. It was a mess.

All right. So, uh, also a mess this next clip where Alex talks a little bit about pizza gate shit, although he's supposed to not believe this anymore. Because I learned this with pizza gate stuff. You've got admissions and thousands of emails about the kids will be delivered into the hot tub for your pleasure. Talked about this on a fast episode. Hot tub for your pleasure.

I think this, uh, pedestrian email. And then it's the FBI code words for sex with kids off their own Homeland Security manual, and they're talking about $65,000 of succulent hot dogs. Well, are these just good? Oh God, these are good. I had these hot dogs in Hawaii. They were, he's completely editorializing on this hot dog email that he has

turned into something else. Yep. This is all bullshit. He is, he's just a riffing. We're delivered by jet. And let me, it's male prostitutes. And look, Obama's having sex with 10 dudes a day, whatever. The point is, is that that's what's going on on your taxpayer time.

He's not watching sports dinner three hours a day up there. Okay. Okay. And then the report is, you know, he's got, you know, well, I'm not going to get into a family show, but let's just say Amtrak isn't just a train. What? Can we break that down? Amtrak isn't just a train.

Well, before we, what is Amtrak then? Before we deconstruct that, I want to tell the audience that when Alex said Obama's having sex with 10 dudes a day, you didn't, your face didn't change at all. Yeah. No, no problem with that. Stone face. No, fine. Whatever.

The idea, whatever. The very idea. Let's say, let's say, I'm just going to let that one go. Let's say a good sexual experience. I mean, there's going to be diminishing returns because of refractory period. But let's say the first time is 10 minutes, right? Yeah. So let's, let's pretend that each time it takes three minutes more or so.

Okay. So then 10 plus 13 plus 16, right. 19, right. 22 was 25. You're going to, and that's going to take all day. It's a busy day. It's a busy day. Now let's imagine that you're doing all 10 at the same time.

That's going to take even longer because each of those 10 dudes needs attention and you can't give attention to 10 dudes at the same time. You know, this is ludicrous. One. Okay. First off, Dan, he's probably just watching Sports Center. You are selling Obama short. I know he has skills.

That is a man who can toss off 10 dudes in a heartbeat. Please look at just if you were even in his presence, you'd be like, huh. And you would, you would shake with, uh, with orgasmic rage. If you're saying to me that you could not control yourself, all things being equal. If you're saying to me that Obama blows 10 dudes a day, that's different because, because then, oh, look at this asshole is spilling. Because then there's no sock rag. There is, at that point, there's no refractory period to consider because

it's different dicks. You know what I'm saying? Right. But if he's having sex with 10 dudes, that implies that his dick is involved. And if that's the case, he's got a nut 10 times. I'm, I'm saying that it's not even him blowing dudes. I'm saying that there are, he has the aura, mental powers of a, of a power that we cannot imagine.

Well, then what's the pleasure then? If you just walk into a room and 10 dudes come, sex is about power, Dan. That's a good. Everything is about sex. I've heard sex is about power. I've heard that from Janelle Monae. I just, I, I'm, which is actually the worst lyric on her, on her entire album. It's a great album.

Dirty computer is fantastic, but that was the worst lyric. Anyways, continue. No, I have nothing to continue with. I think I beat this dead horse. Just like Obama did with all those 10 dudes, dicks. All right. Dead horse, dicks. I don't know, but I will say that this is what Media Matters and Right

Wing Watch decided to cover from this episode to give you some context of like what he's talking about and has talked about already. We have, uh, people want to get into white Protestant countries. Yeah. We have the ones that white Protestants stole from the people who want to get in there now. We have globalists of demographically chosen Chinese and Islam as their way to go.

Can't be having that. Us. It's almost like they want to get into those white Protestant. Wait, no, don't they want, they don't want to get into those white Protestant countries though, right? I don't know, but we also have, uh, Alex talking shit on the Amish unnecessarily. The right wing watch could cover that. You could do a little dance on his face with that.

If you want, that would be very easy to do. A further thing that they could have covered if they wanted to is Alex explaining why Mark Dice isn't more popular. What? This would be a great thing for them to cover. Wait, wait, wait. Why is he explaining it? Because the answer is obvious.

Lack of skill. So many. Yeah. Doesn't have it. Yeah. Even bad at what he does. Worse at everything that Alex Jones is even worse at. The easiest fucking thing in the world to do is go down to a boardwalk and fuck

with people and he does that poorly. Yeah. Yeah. That's why he's not a lot of different reasons. That's what we would say. Alex, what's his take? We know that intelligence agencies and other groups use this because it's not enough to blackmail somebody you're cheating on their wife or that you're gay.

That doesn't work anymore. So they have to like induct you and the Mexican mafia or in the Aryan nations or whatever group you're in, you know, reportedly you got to go kill somebody to become a main member, Italian mafia, the same way you got to make your bones. Sure. But to get into Hollywood, you got to make your bones with a 13 year old girl. That's the bare minimum. That's Roman Polanski.

You get standing ovations. Well, a good friend of mine is a casting agent and this isn't true. Oh, it's not because I mean, it's come out in the news. It's come out in investigations. I've talked to people. This is what it is. They say at the final level, I've been told by major people and it's happened to Mark Dice.

They said, we want you to pledge the Lucifer before we give you this national show. I know the very production company is involved and I've been involved with it. And in the meeting with the head of it, he said, I just want you to pledge yourself to the Lucifer. And he said, are you messing with me? Cause I'm a Christian. He goes, no, this is serious. I can't work with you unless you do that.

Okay. We work for Lucifer. So we work for Lucifer. That's very direct, bro. Lucifer signs our checks. Yeah. We work for Lucifer. So, uh, let's let this go.

I, I, again, I don't believe this is true. But if it's true, I would assume that it's someone fucking with it. Like it has to be, right? Assuming that story is true. Cause it's second hand coming from Mark Dice to Alex Jones, which is a tenuous link in the game of telephone. Like the idea of him telling Alex this story, he's going to be lying to Alex to embellish it.

Now Alex is telling it to us, embellishing it even further. But if the literal truth of that story is the guy being like, you got to be in with Lucifer, that's more him being like, I don't want your show. Hey, Mark. Um, I don't want you around. Mark, we, uh, we like your show idea, but I'm going to tell you this right now. Um, and you're, listen, I like your show, but I got to go up to my boss and, uh, Lucy is not a huge fan of it.

That means you're working for Lucifer. That's also a possibility. All right. No, it's just, no, she's really nice. She, Lucy, uh, Lucy Goosey. Uh, no, my, uh, my boss, Belle, I don't know if you've met Belle, Belle Lucifer, Belle, Zeebub, Belle Zeebub. Oh, there we go.

It's a common name. All right. All right. I don't know. This is so stupid. Like, I don't know. There, there's a, there's a point at which like us trying to like play with what might actually be talked about.

It's kind of like, what are we even doing? What, what was the point of this? What was the point? Um, so in this next clip, listen, bro, we work for Hades. Right. I mean, that's so fine. Served. Fine.

It's great. It's perhaps the most silly thing you could possibly present as true. And then the second level of it is who wants Mark Dice? The idea, the very idea that Lucifer is recruiting Mark Dice. The idea that Satan, the shoot devil, the literal devil is like this morning star. This guy has it second in command to God himself. I want him, but you've got to get him in the meeting to say he's cool.

Yeah. Much like Alex's like lack of awareness and playing games with what, uh, like Amish do, he's doing the same thing with what Hollywood people do. And now here's the dangerous piece of it. There's absolutely abuse in Hollywood. There's absolutely, uh, child exploitation that happens. Agreed. We're not making fun of that at all.

Never. The idea that we're laughing about, first of all, is that anyone wants Mark Dice. And then the second piece of it is the way that Alex Jones does this and talks about this very real issue that other people are dealing with, like Ronan Farrow is doing much more. Yes, Ronan Farrow is crushing it. Doing much more serious, nuanced work that's based in reality.

Yeah. Alex Jones is doing a disservice to all of that by bringing in so much bullshit into it. So in this next clip, Alex brings up something about what's bad about being in Hollywood, something that's really bad about it in his experience. I was like, I mean, I can't go to Hollywood. Like he'll be in the dressing room or taking a piss and somebody walks over and you know, I can't imagine someone coming up to people in a dressing room.

Like maybe if they're underage girls at a beauty pageant, I can't imagine what kind of temerity it would take to walk in to a dressing room and harass people. I can't even imagine that. No president would ever do that, certainly. Oh, absolutely not. Isn't that burning it down? Yeah, burn it down. Just burn it all down.

Yeah. Burn it all down. Have we considered burning it all down? You're getting real close to Ralphie Mays. Blah, blah, blah. Ralphie in peace. Is he dead? Oh, he is dead.

He's dead. You didn't know you didn't remember he was dead. No, I didn't care. He was really mean to some friends of mine when he came and did stand up in Columbia, Missouri. You know, I've heard, I've heard so many different, like he had so many different stories of like he was alternately the most mean and then certainly the most generous.

Like I know people who've all of a sudden he's been like, yeah, I will pay for your entire life. And he's like, oh, shit. I've heard similar things, but from the people I know closest, they're all negative. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, rest in peace, Ralphie May. Sure, he did have some fucking awful jokes.

Oh, yeah. No, back when I used to work from time to time at that club in Columbia, Missouri, deja vu was the name of it. Yeah, they would have those like, you know, remember when you were hosting at Zany's, you were being like, there's going to be a long video before this. Yeah, yeah, same thing at deja vu, but it would be who's coming up like a month from now, right? Ralphie May was coming in a month and a half or whatever.

And then so he did play the video. And every time you would come and do a set, you have to watch that video. And it was just so bad because the joke that they decided to put in the video was talking about like how he named his daughter, April, June, May. And you know, what do people come up to me and say, what did your wife think about that name? And I said, she couldn't say shit. Her janitor was wrecked.

Like, is that a joke? What is that? Oh, why is that in the sizzle? Oh, why is that? I don't know. That's going to get me to come to the show. Look, look, you hear something like that. You think I got to go see what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Yeah, I don't know. And then his, his opener in the video, like legitimately, he comes to stage in a giant orange suit. Yeah, he's like, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a stand here and let y'all get used to this amount of orange on the stage. Oh boy. So, hey, so, oh, I hate those jokes. So fucking, I hate those jokes so fucking much.

So when we would do sets there, sometimes like me and my friends would be on the same show together doing guest sets. And one time me and very funny, not doing standup anymore, but very funny guy, Daniel Shar, who has a new movie, if you can find it on the internet, you should check it out. It's called scraps. Very funny. I went to the premiere of it.

Very, very fun. Nice. He's a very, very funny dude. When he was still doing standup, we were there. That video played, it's so goddamn long. And he had to go up first. It's when he got up on stage, he's like, nah, I'm gonna stand here and let you get adjusted to the amount of Shar on stage.

Zero. Except me laughing my ass off. Anyway, there's nothing better than a comedian wearing something and then pointing out how crazy it is that he wore it. Yeah, exactly. By choice. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

Isn't it weird? I chose to do this so I could say this. Yeah, it's so crazy. It's almost like I planned on doing this. Yeah. Anyway, I would, I don't have any of those. I don't have any of those jokes because I only read like you got to give it up to those guys for at least writing like eight new hours every year or

whatever the fuck it is. Like I don't have any of those jokes because I write one new joke a year. Like it's terrible. It's a good pace. Yeah. Um, anyway, we got to get back into this. Oh, that's right. That's right.

Now I will say that I know that Ralphie May is from Texas. I'm waiting on a good transition right here. Ralphie May is from Texas. And I know this because one of his specials is called ostentatious. Okay. Austin. I get it. I get it.

But he's brilliant. He spent a lot of his time in LA. Yeah. And we know that one thing from this next clip that is that LA. I was a torturous route, but I like that. Not my best transition. Torturous. It was torturous.

We know that LA is very satanic. Okay. I can't go even to LA to audition and even get paid 10 grand audition because I can't be there. Like I can barely go into beyond Joe Rogan's podcast. I have like man up and I can take anything. I can't go to LA like I'm flying in. I feel like I'm dying.

I mean, it's, it's so satanic. My God. And that's, that's the main enemy attack base. That's, that's what's sucking the soul. I would agree that maybe he had a tough time because how hard he was self-medicating when he was on Rogan's podcast and how fucking wasted he was in acting like a dumb, dumb could have something to do with it. Um, but yeah, I'd also say, I don't know.

Who's paying Alex Jones $10,000 to audition for something. I'm going to go with nobody. Uh, but it's a good cover for why you're not in anything. Be like, I can't go to LA. It's too satanic. Yeah. It's pretty good. Sure.

It's pretty good. Is it? I mean, in this audience, yeah, it plays fair enough, fair enough. Um, so now Jordan, I've been teasing this a little. I didn't get it just for laughs auditions because Montreal is on fire. Bingo. It's, it's that, that, that same sort of mentality. Yep.

Um, so I've been teasing that there's a guest coming up. You have no idea who this dude is. I don't. You, and you also, once the name is said, you'll have no idea who this dude is. All right. That's great. Nor should you. Here's Alex introducing him.

So the globalists are trying to brainwash humanity. Turn off our life force. Turn off our survival instinct. Hollywood is their main weapon. And we're joined by Isaac Cappy, who's a pretty big movie star. He's been a lot of big films, big supporting roles, a lot of starring roles. I'm not going to go over all the films he's been in. I wonder why he's coming out in this whole plethora of sex stuff happening

and pedophile news and, and, and, and James Gunn, you know, worshiping pedophilia. Sure. He's a pedophile booster. You figured that one out and 400,000 signatures or whatever. The same rehiring and he's saying they've tried to induct me into this. So we appreciate him. So we got Isaac Cappy, which I actually kind of suspect is buzz marketing for Super Mario Odyssey, because the new character in it is Cappy, who is the he is

like a spirit that embodies Mario's hat. You can throw him around and he's a new character. Cappy did not know that also reminds me of the movie Chappy. There's a number of reasons. There's a bunch of reasons that I don't, I don't think this guy is sincere. What has he been in? Whoa, boy. So, so I've heard, I've heard he's been in a number of supporting roles and a

number of starring roles and somebody said that they didn't want to even get into what roles he's been in because he's been in so many. Well, I don't want to tell tales out of school about what roles he's been in. So just give me a, give me a sampling of his IMDB page, which I am sure is filled with big blast buster hits. I'll do that on the other side of this clip because I would rather let Isaac Cappy, uh, respond to Alex's allegation that he's a big movie star himself. And I would like to dispel a few things.

You said, I'm not a big movie star. Uh, that's, I've been in a lot of movies, but I'm not a big movie star. Also, I really would like to get in front of this. I never threatened Paris. And in fact, I reached out to her yesterday. We texted back and forth and I said, look, I know you're a good person. I don't want to bring you into this. They are trying to draw you in, uh, cause that's what sociopaths do.

They use other people around them. They don't care who they hurt. They just bring them in. And, uh, I will say there is a lot more to that story. Um, I, it's not relevant though. And, uh, it's not relevant to the conversation. Sure. I mean, I mean, I mean, that's the classic tactic is a

distractionary tactic to like change the subject. But I mean, I don't really follow Hollywood and I know who you were. So I'm just saying you're, you're in a stable stacker. I never threatened Paris Hilton. Jackson, Michael Jackson's daughter, uh, Paris Jackson. Yes, has alleged that, uh, this guy, I was happy, choked her at a party. What? Yeah.

To the point where, um, it's being reported in some, like, you never know how like sincere, uh, like sort of gossipy blogs are gossip websites are. Sure. You know, I, I don't give a fuck about celebrity news, although this is a little bit elevated because this guy is clearly unhinged and mentally ill. Yeah. Um, and the allegation that he choked her, uh, is much more serious than say, Paris Hilton wore a weird shirt at a bar or something like that.

I originally, I was really originally, I was trying to find very, uh, because my first thought was like, wait, did he threaten the city of Paris? No, because if he's in Alex Jones, I guess that's entirely possible. That he could have been like, I was going to, I know people heard me say I was going to bomb Paris, but I'm not going to like, he did threaten the city of Los Angeles though. And he said something to the effect of in a tweet that he has since deleted, um, that if people come after him, like, uh, the globalists or the powers that be,

come after him, he's going to rain 50 cows all over, uh, place. All right. So then shooting spree. So then yeah, he did it. Whatever, whatever it is, so he did that part that he's defending himself from is this allegation from Paris Jackson that he choked her at a party. Uh, I don't know if that's true. I'm going to guess based on his behavior that it's possibly true.

I don't know. I don't really, I don't have any skin in the game, but in terms of him being a big movie star, I do like his lack of ego about it because he's not, he's been in a couple of big movies. Like he was an iron man. He was a Terminator salvation. Well, that's a, that's a thing. Uh, but his roles were like guy at store or something like that.

He's a glorified extra in a couple of movies. Right. And then if he had any starring roles at all, they were like weird short films that are on his IMDB resume. He's done not a whole lot. Right. If you look into it, he hasn't even worked in anything in like the last year and a half, two years.

Neither have I. So good on him. Sure. I'm not shitting on him for that. He's been in something. I was never an iron man. No, you wish you were. You part of the MCU.

If you could only be an extra, if you could only have been an extra in Marvel's cinematic universe. In the MCU. It's, it's turned into a real hot button issue on our Facebook page. But whether or not Howard the duck is part of the MCU. All right. Our buddy Jim pointed out that Howard the duck is part of the MCU and it became an argument of whether that's canonical or not.

Got ugly. I love you. Got ugly. I love everyone. So, um, Alex has already in the introduction said that this guy was going to be inducted into this satanic order in Hollywood. Of course. And he tried to build him up as like a very large movie star, which Isaac himself

has rebuffed and been like, I'm, I've been in some movies. I'm not really a big star or anything. So, or an actor. I mean, he's acted. I'm not going to, I'm, I don't want to, I don't care. I don't want to split hairs. All right. All right.

I'm just, I just want to let Isaac speak his piece and explain why he's on the show. Let's do it. I have a singular mission, uh, when, when the James Gunn stuff came up, like I've been watching these people talk and talk and talk, they're liars. And the root of it is that they're pedophiles. James Gunn is a pedophile and I know because his friends are pedophiles. Seth Green is a pedophile. He told me he was a pedophile.

Okay. Like, and I'm tired of the cult state ripping apart our country and brainwashing people. It's driving me nuts. So that could be legally actionable. Seth Green is a pedophile and he said so. Right. Hold on to that. Cause we're going to get into his explanation here in a few, but I would say that Alex,

even though he Kate like really gave a lot of pretty insistent caveats that like, I don't know if it's a good idea to have this guy on the show. Yeah. That's not going to save you in court when you allow a guy to slander somebody on your program. No, I think that's literally legally, legally actionable, right? Well, it's certainly legally actionable against Isaac Cappy. Now he's already said these things in his live streams and shit. Like he's, he's, he goes on Periscope.

He does some of that bullshit. And he said that Seth Green's a pedophile and all this shit all over and over again. He's accused Steven Spielberg of being a pedophile, Tom Hanks. He's doing all this stuff, but if you not Tom Hanks, but if you keep track of it, a lot of it is stuff that these weird pizza gate dudes have already been making accusations about on the internet. Right, right, right. It's not really anything.

It's not firsthand information. It's, well, it is only in the sense that he does know Seth Green. Okay. He absolutely knows Seth Green. So he got fired by Seth Green. He's at least been at some game nights with Seth Green. Okay. But then you have to also take into consideration other things he says in his streams.

He's accused the Rothschilds of cannibalism. Right. He thinks that pizza gate is proven and documented. True. Those sorts of things that are like, oh, all right. Oh, and the other thing is like, when I was saying that I'm not sure if I believe gossip sites, but you know, you'd take, take this for what you will. Yeah.

They were reporting that based on what he did to Paris Jackson, she has had to move. Like she's had to move because he knows where she lives and he has kept trying to contact her. All right. So he's that sort of thing. If, I mean, I don't know if that's true, but it seems very plausible. I think in the world that we, that we like, uh, weighed around in, you are pretty much guilty until you prove your innocence. Maybe let's let him in our, in our world, in the, in the fucking sewer that we existed.

We're not talking about people. Well, let's let, let's let Isaac Cappy, uh, try and give his story before we judge too harshly, because I know what's coming up. And I think this guy's a shithead, but you don't know that the audience doesn't know that I'm getting a little ahead of myself. I'm just saying that if you're a man on Alex Jones's show, I will believe whatever a woman said about you ever. You are coming.

You're playing from behind. You are definitely like, you know what it is? You're in the night. It's the ninth inning. Uh-huh. It's tied and you have to pitch first. That's what it is.

Top of the night. If someone, no, wait, that's not, no, that doesn't work. That's top of the night. Yeah, I know, because bottom of the ninth is I'm bad at the bottom, because at the bottom, then you get a chance to tie it up. What I'm saying is it's, you're on, you're on thin ice. I'm on thin ice. I don't know.

I'm trying to come up with a sports metaphor. I don't like sports. Put this in goblin terms then, dad. All right. Because you're a goblin. All right. You're with a bunch of other goblins. They're my friends.

You're playing hockey. We're all, why are we playing hockey? Three over times. There's no ice. It's not a shootout. Okay. It's a shootout. It's a goblin shootout.

It's a classic goblin shootout. I don't know sports, but we were talking about goblins. Anyway, let's let Isaac Cappy speak his piece. So this is part of his story that is so crazy. Okay. All right. We'll continue though. When did it get to the point, like Mark Dice,

they didn't ask him to have sex with kids, but they said, we want you to join Lucifer, you know, before you give this to him. Well, I was at a, I was at a party and then this, this child showed up with a man and a woman. Maybe their parents. And he was asking for Seth Green. Maybe Seth Green's friends came over with their kid and,

I don't know, it wasn't specific at all. Who was out of the country at the time. And that's when I was like, oh man, they want some blackmail on me. They want, they want to, they want to pin me down and get me involved in this. Quickly. And I have no, no desire to get into anything like that.

Cool. Cool, cool, cool. God, it sounds like you do that. Well, yeah, I never saw anything illegal, but I wasn't some big parties. And I'm like, why are 15 year old girls at this party with weirdo creepy lawyers? And like, you know, oh, I get a martini.

I'm 15 years old. And I'm like, I'm out of here. Is they're child actors? Yeah, I understand that. I have also been at gatherings where there have been 15 year olds and it's been fine and no one's drinking. And it's just, we're, you know, just hanging out and playing board games.

Sure. I'm not saying, I'm not saying you're not the beach with your family and the 15 year old snakes appear. And it doesn't always mean there's pedophilia. I'm just saying, you're at a Hollywood party and you know, you got scannily clad girls that don't look like they're 18. You know, it's, it's weird.

Uh, yeah, it is, it is weird. What are you guys talking about? What's happening here? Drew Barrymore? So that part at the end there. Are they talking about Drew Barrymore from the 90s? That part at the end there, they're undercutting their own argument.

Yeah. Because he's saying that you be at a party in Hollywood where like you said, child actors might be there. Yeah. And they have their lawyers there because they're child actors. Well, that's a possibility. I don't know what Alex is trying to depict.

But like the idea that there's a 15 year old like who's at the party playing board games with you and nothing happens. That kind of undercuts the, oh, it's always suspicious if a 15 year old is at the party. Little bit. Now the part at the beginning there where he's talking about a kid showing up with a dad

and a mom conceivably. Yeah. Disgusting. Looking for Seth Green when Seth Green is out of the country. I would say that precludes it from being anything suspicious because if it was a child delivery, they would fucking know that he was out of the country. You don't risk that kind of thing.

Wait, wait, wait. You're committing a major crime. Why would you play the kid over? Why wouldn't you even text first? At least, at least send a text. Exactly. Now, maybe you don't want a paper trail, right? Send literally any sort of missive in a way that is something.

What are you talking about? Why is your first thought, okay, parents bring their kid over and Seth Green's out of the country. Obviously, they're trying to get me to fuck a kid. That is the type of thinking of a man who really wants to fuck a kid. See, you're looking at it that way. I think it's just someone who is either grossly opportunistic and is trying to make a buck.

Probably. Or is mentally ill and has insane delusions of paranoia. Almost certainly. Those two things are the most possible. It can be all three. And I will give Alex some credit that, like I said, I've brought this up a couple of times. He had misgivings about the idea of talking to this guy.

Yeah. And I will, I will. He doesn't sound like he has misgivings right now though. It sounds like he's jumping in whole hog. I will tip my hat to him for at least having that kind of, you know, in that sort of awareness that like, this could go really badly. At this point, it's not going really badly. Alex is trying to get him to, you know, do the narrative that he wants.

He's bringing up Mark Dice as he has already, he's trying to weave in like I've been at parties too. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get the, let's get the vague narrative together that I want. Right. I don't like how you keep bringing up Seth Green. That's probably illegal.

Yeah. That's weird. So I think he might be able to sue you. And then I've got to get deposed. Another goddamn lawsuit. He's swearing carrying the narrative here is what he's doing. He's hoping to, I think. And that's another thing that I think as we go along

and get through the rest of these clips, you will see a little bit of him trying to like write the story. Yeah. As the story is being told. Yeah. Yeah. But Alex gets kind of like, just tell me your goddamn information. Like, because I think even he heard that like a kid showed up

and there was a man and a woman and Seth Green wasn't there. That sort of thing. That's weak. That's weak. I think he thinks that's weak. Even for Alex, that's weak. And then on top of that, I think that Alex has been burned in the past by people like Joe Biggs coming in with that pizza gate shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he got in trouble and had to apologize to James Alphontus. He doesn't want to have to film a video where he apologizes to Seth Green. That'd be a fun one. And so he is like, just tell me your information. Would he do it as a robot chicken? He would do a little puppet version. That's going to come back into play.

Okay. Bottom line without getting into all the names. What's the data dump? If you had five minutes on national TV, which this is, millions are tuned in right now. Millions will watch later. It's not. What is the data dump of your experience?

What you saw? What they shared? Sure, sure. Because you were going to break. People just joined us. So go back to that. Real quick. Alex asked him for the information and he started weaving a weird tail

as the outro music played. Now he's like, we're coming back from break. Right, right. He didn't say anything that Alex doesn't recap here before they went to commercial. I was going to keep both clips just for context, but Alex does a pretty decent job of something to get up. To that. You were talking about pizza gate to this girl. You know, this other Hollywood actress.

And then all of a sudden she goes, oh, and then what happens next? That's very close to what he said. Here's the data. Okay. Let's just be really concise about it. Seth Green at his house after a party, we're all kind of drinking, pulled back a secret bookshelf and said to me, this is where we keep the children. All right.

That sounds like someone who's not being sincere. Yeah. Sounds like someone who's like, oh, isn't this a dumb joke? It sounds like somebody who's been a professionally funny for a long time. Right. Uh, they're the top, the top floor in that Malibu house was covered in stuffed animals. Is that a guest room for maybe that couple with their kid that came and didn't know he was out of town? Or just a room for somebody who does a show with puppets.

Oh yeah. It's possible that they with toys and puppets. Oh, that's it. That's an interesting theory. This is his entire job. He's being very unspecific about what these stuffed animals are. Maybe they're collectibles of the nerd culture stuff that Seth Green's entire career is based on. There was a room with a bunch of bunk beds.

Okay. All right. That's different. Fine to you. After that experience, I tried to block it out and just laugh it off because it's hard, you know, because you trust these people. You love, I love them. I love them so much.

I love them. And then you got fired. You know, a month later, Seth tells me at the dinner table, we need to have a talk about chicken. And in case you're not aware, chicken is at a file covert for very young child. Or this show Robot Chicken. He told me he's into kids. So like, I don't know what more data people want. You have already solved the mystery.

It's show Robot Chicken. We need to have a talk about chicken. Do you mean his show Robot Chicken? That has been on the air for 13 years. The show he does called Robot Chicken. It's very much still an active show. Do you mean not the pedophile code word that nobody has ever used? Or maybe it has been used, but come on.

It's allegedly used. If there is a thing that Seth Green might say with the use of the word chicken, I'm going to go with his show Robot Chicken. Right. It's like if you and I were, or like I was trying to- Hey, we're going to, we need to talk about knowledge, Dan. No, no, or, or like if I was out, you know, like maybe we go meet up with a bunch of comics and one of them I want to fill in for you one time.

Yeah. Like we got to go, we talk, we're going to talk about this fight. I'm not talking about fighting. That's what, that's exactly what Fight Club say. Now granted, we don't call this show fight. But on a, on some level, you could, that could be a way I might drunkenly present it to somebody. Sure. You know, and the idea that he's over for a dinner party and he's like, we got to talk about chicken.

That is a hundred percent what he probably saw. There's no, there's- Especially based on the other weak shit that he's presenting in terms of like, he had a secret room. He's like, this is where we hide that kid. And he does the Alex Jones creepy voice even, which is- Yeah, exactly. Like that makes it not real.

Yeah. And then the, oh, there's stuffed animals in a room. And again, the bunk beds part, like you facetiously was like, this proves it. Again, guest room, bitch. I don't, I hate that I said bitch there, but like, it's so stupid. I don't know. Like, you have it, you could easily, like if you have a mansion, the idea is like, I know from some experience.

Mansion-wise. Watching the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Right. Watching cribs. Okay. A lot of people who have mansions have rooms that people can stay in that they know from their life before they were rich. Because they're rich enough to be like, hey, I'm going to build a room for you.

Isn't this great that I can now have a place where you can stay with me in Malibu if you come in vacation? Sure. You don't have to go to a hotel. You have access to my mansion. Do you know how great it is that I have so much disposable income that I can build a room for you to visit once a year? It's wonderful.

Yeah. That's human. Great. So the idea that there's a room with bunk beds, again, comes down to the idea that maybe Seth Green has a lot of friends with kids and they like to stay and like maybe you would want to allow the kids to have their own room if they come and stay. Could be, could be. If I were super rich, that would be in my house.

Yeah. Because I have enough friends that are close to me that are now married or on their way to having kids. Yeah. Like let's say I were to, I don't know, perfect world. Yes. We become super successful with this podcast. Sure.

To the point where I'm super rich. You're super rich too. We don't have to work anymore. Maybe you stay in Chicago. I decide, fuck it, I'm going to France. Sure. I get a big old house in France. That'd be fun.

You and your girlfriend get married, have some kids. We do the show over Skype or something like that to keep things going. Everything is good. But sometimes you like to have a vacation in Europe. We want to go to France. Right. You have kids. I have a room dedicated for when you come and visit in my chateau.

Sure. That is something that like. That makes perfect sense. My brother, like, my brother has a huge house. Yes. There are rooms in that house that are just for other people. Right. Specifically, that don't match his lifestyle at all.

Because he has people who come and stay with him. Yeah. Because he's in a position of his life where he can be like, this is a room for others. Yeah. This is not weird. You don't understand though, in this fantasy scenario, what I would do if I were rich, which is test the limits of the different justice systems.

I would go around committing so many fucking crimes. So many fucking crimes. Or state to state. I would, I would burn down. State to state or country to country. Burn down homes anywhere I could go. Anywhere I could go. Do you know how many crimes rich people get away with?

I would test every single fucking limit of that. Try and put me in jail. Try and put me in jail. I'm so rich. I don't even give a fuck. Burn it down. Making it rain on courts. Burn it down.

I'll pay for all of your lawyers. You know what? I'll pay for the prosecution's lawyers. This has created a really fun mental picture of you like arsoning. It's like setting fire or someone's house and they come out and you just have a checkbook. With $100 bills is how I would start fires on other people's homes. So they come out of the house and it's burning down. You have a checkbook and you're like, let it happen.

Yes. What's it going to take for you to be cool? You have nailed my rich person fantasy scenario. That's horrible. But I do like it. I do like it on one level because maybe they didn't like the house they were living in. And because of the numbers you could write on that check, you could buy a better house. Exactly.

It's a slight inconvenience, but you are helping the working man. I am the worst Robin Hood there's ever been. I'm a joy riding Robin Hood is what I'm doing. You're an upfront abusive Robin Hood. Pays off on the back end. Yeah. Yeah. Shitty.

You're a Robin Hood who's working on spec. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put you up in a hotel for a while. I'm going to burn your house down. You're going to come watch. We're all going to have a great time. I'm going to buy you a new house. I'm a good guy.

And then, oh, here's what you're going to do. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. I like that. 02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:53,400 All right. You put them up in the hotel.

Yeah. What hotel? Are we talking about like a Hilton? I'm three star. Three star? Three star. I feel like I'd be a better rich person than that. Three star.

That's penny pinch and rich person. Penny pinch and rich person behavior. Five, four. Okay. You bring a recorder as you watch the house burn. The podcast is them watching the house burn. So now I'm doing a podcast with them as their house burns. My guest is the guy who's watching his house burn.

How do you feel right now? Any memories you think you're not going to be able to recover from that? Hey guys. Welcome to the new episode of real estate fight. I've got the Smith family over here. We're watching their 30 year old home burn to the ground. It was built by their grandfather by his own hands.

Mr. Smith, I know you're crying right now, but you have to keep in mind that you're going to end in a better place. The other end of this, you're going to have a better house. I think that'd be a great podcast. There's ethical issues with it, but I think there are a few. I think that could be a mini series on. Do I let them keep mementos or do I have to stipulate that they keep it all in there? They can only keep any copies they have of the DVD of memento.

Anything else that's got to burn? All right. No, no, what about Nick next? You've got to go survivor on it. Go survivor on it. So if you've ever watched survivor, one of the things is they get to bring one luxury item. Everyone who comes on the show gets to bring one like razor.

You could bring a razor to shave and stuff like that. I've never watched survivor. Everybody gets to bring that. So every member of the family gets one item, gets one item, sentiment item. And then on the podcast, then we'll talk about their sentimental item and why it was that they chose that. And then there'll be the crackling of well roast marshmallows.

It'll be fantastic. This is the best idea for a podcast. This is right up there with that TV show with the like, I can save the show, the stand up show that we pitched. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. We could be so rich.

We could be. We're ideas man, Dan. We're ideas man. We can't follow through on the show. So good at this. Anyway. What, what were we talking about again? So Isaac, this dude is, this dude is accusing Seth Green of being a pedophile.

Is that how we got on to that? I'm going to burn down homes as a podcast show. Well, we had to talk about something real. So Isaac is basing a lot of this stuff on the fact that Seth Green said we need to talk about chicken and this dinner part. Which eerily resembles the show that he does. And I got to be honest. Alex finally shows somewhere with all as a journalist in this clip.

Here we go. I don't like giving props to Alex. Right, of course not. This is, this is as close as it's going to get to Alex being like, good job, buddy. Maybe they thought you were into pizza gay. They thought you were funny. They knew you. They were teasing you.

Or maybe you know Sasha Burke, hold on. Sasha Burke might have been videoed as a joke. I mean, I mean, how do you know what I'm saying is when did, when did he actually say something? He said it at that conversation. We're already eating dinner. Okay. So ask yourself, why would someone say we need to have a conversation about chicken? How does that make any sense?

Yeah, I hear you, but that isn't proof of him. Okay, Alex, please stop fucking interrupting me, brother. Hit pause. Delete that. Go ahead. We're on radio and TV. We can't say customers. I'm not going to interrupt you.

Fine. I don't know how someone's saying chicken is that. Go ahead. Okay. So while we are already eating dinner, he says we need to have a conversation about chicken. Eating. And I say, well, to be quite honest, when that hit me, I was like, this wave of dread, because like I had, you know, I was like, they might be into this stuff. They might be into this stuff. He confirmed that they are into children.

I asked him if they were into sacrifices and stuff like that. He said they weren't, but, you know, he was already, you know, lying about other stuff. So who knows? Yeah, who knows? He never, he, Alex presses a little bit more about the idea of like, what did he say? Yeah. He's like, well, I don't remember exactly what he's like, go fuck yourself then. Get the fuck out of here.

Yeah. Get the fuck out of here with you trying to recharacterize fake conversations that you had based on this pizza gate fear that you already had that you brought into inform this conversation with someone who is so decent enough to let you as a fucking no name out of work actor into his circle. You're just trying to cash in on Seth Green's celebrity. It's fucking nonsense. And now again, I, do you know what?

A week from now, it could come out that Seth Green's a monster and, uh, Sure. Hey, I still don't believe this guy. No, I'm not defending Seth Green. I'm saying this guy's story is shit. Yeah. That's all. And I love that Alex, like because he's been burned in the past is like, he said chicken.

That's not perfect. Alex, Alex is at a, at a, on a certain level, whenever I'm listening to this, I feel like Alex is getting out a lot of the frustration that he has with himself. No, with his shitty underlings and his audience. Like it's so much like for real. You're going to bring this Mark Dice bullshit at me. Like I already have people who are shitty at their jobs. Have you heard motherfucking these people talk?

You ever talk to David Knight? Yeah. Have you ever talked to David Knight? I have to run this whole operation and you're just coming at me with, he said chicken fuck off. David Knight tried to call his show real news and then we got in trouble because that was copyrighted and can't call a show that. So I said to him, and also it wasn't. So why don't we call the show a living walking quailude?

Why don't we call it human sedative? And then David Knight's like, I just want to call it something else. I don't know. I don't think that's going to market very well. You know what I deal with having to talk to that motherfucker. And now you're coming into my goddamn show. One of my interns found you on Twitter or Reddit. One of your dumbest periscope things.

He said, you've got to interview this guy. I said, oh, I don't think it's a good idea, but now I do. You're fucking naming Seth Green repeatedly on my show. This is going to get us fucking sued. You dick. You do your periscopes. No one's watching. Everyone hates me now.

You understand? I am fucking in the hopper. You come on my show and say that Seth Green's a pedophile. This is going to blow back on me. Now I would love to have this dance and other circumstances. I would love to do it, but it is too hot right now. I have to say chicken doesn't mean shit. Alex is backed into a corner where he has to use the skills that he actually has.

Oh my God, never flexes. This is the problem with this. This is the problem with this not being a live show. If every one of our, every single one of our listeners that heard that rant was like, yeah, and then just started fucking clapping. That was perfect. Nobody understands Alex Jones better than you do. And you should cry.

Yeah, but also if they were watching it live, I'd be super embarrassed. I got the tiniest bit animated. You went fucking, oh, that was beautiful. And I usually have no pause and say it silently. Pause that. We can't swear on this show. Oh yeah, it's true. I love that though.

I very rarely ever hear someone drop a fucking. Yeah, he's true. I almost, I kept finding like I was writing in my head like, oh, he didn't say fucking because you can't say fucking on a show. No, he totally did. Oh yeah. Yep. That's great.

Yep. Alex is the only one who gets to say fucking on this show. I'm not a fucking Russian agent. And fill your hand. Fill your hand. So, by the way, you can go to fillyourhand.com. It will redirect you to knowledgefight.com. Click support the show.

I need the help. So, the other thing, dude, is that like, okay, I've made it very clear. I don't believe this guy. Yeah. I think this is thin, the thinnest soup. It's not good. Of all time. It's not good.

But he comes up with a rebuttal that I think is actually worth examining. So, if what I'm saying is false, why would there be such a concerted effort to shut me down on every platform that the cult state controls? Because it's liable. Because crimes. Because it's illegal. Because crimes exist. Because there are crimes.

Because you're slandering someone. Because sometimes crimes. If you speak it, it's one crime. If you type it, it's another. You know what? If I... You are without any evidence other than he said chicken. Making a horrible claim about somebody.

If I had murdered that guy, why would everybody be trying to prosecute for me for murder? Come on. It doesn't make sense. Come on. If I murdered somebody, why would everybody be trying to say that I murdered him? They need me to shut up because it's so true. Because I've murdered so... This is...

That's the wrong angle. That's not a good angle. You're too good at this. I was hoping to never discuss that Seth Green's show is called Robot Chicken. How could you... How could that not be the first thing you think of? I know. If Seth Green and the word chicken are in the same sentence,

even if it was like Seth Green had chicken for dinner, I'd be like, did he have robot chicken for dinner? Like that's the only thing you could think. Because it's been on air for 13 years. There are so many long years. It premiered in 2005. But the reason that I was hoping to like tease it out is just because they don't bring it up for quite a while.

How do they not bring it up? Until Alex does in this next book, which again, I gotta give him props for. Okay. Let me ask you this question, Cappy. You're really good buddies. We looked it up. We didn't just believe you with Seth Green going back for years. So suddenly your target against him is shows called Robot Chicken.

You make this chicken joke. Is this not the ultimate outdoing Sasha Barrack Cohen stunt right now? I would like to dispel this one more time. This is not a media stunt. Cool. I like Alex's like, I like his fear. You know what I'm saying?

You know, like I like that he's gun shy a little bit because he's wrong. This guy's just crazy. But I like the idea that like because everyone, all these people got tricked by Sasha Barrack Cohen, that now he has to be like really on his guard. Right. Wait a second. Your proof is that he said chicken. His show is Robot Chicken.

Are you just some sort of weird prank that's going on? Is it like, I like that is, that is actually good. He's wrong, but his brain went there. No, I know. Which is at least a nice next step. I know. I appreciate that. I was that's like, that's like a child like watching a child find the wrong,

but interesting solution to a problem. Yeah. All right. So this, this circle doesn't fit into the cube hole, but the cube hole, if I turn it this way, will fit into the diamond hole. That's pretty much the same thing. Or it's like, well, if we make the square hole bigger, the circle will fit. Interesting solution.

Yeah. Wrong. Yeah. Not what we're going for. But you're thinking. I appreciate that. Yeah. That's creativity at least.

That's how low the bar is for Alex. I know. I'm, I, the fact that his brain does that, legitimately, legitimately, shocked, shocked that he actually brought up robot chicken at all. Yeah. Yeah. Because, because for a moment there, I was like, oh, well, of course, of course, he would bring up robot chicken.

And then, and when you said it, I'm surprised that he pushed back at all. I was like, Oh yeah. Of course, because if this Sasha Baron Cohen, if he, if he hadn't been tricked by this in the past, robot chicken would never have come up at all. 02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,840 He would have been all in on the bullshit narrative. No. I don't think, I don't think.

I don't know. I don't know if it's like, I'm not saying it's Sasha Baron Cohen. No, not entirely. I'm saying if he hadn't been burned so many times, this would be such the thing where he's like, yeah, let's jump into it. Let's throw in, let's go, let's go whole, let's go all the way. Well, there's one piece that I didn't bring up is kind of unnecessary. But because it's come up in conversation, it's relevant.

I think one of the biggest reasons that Alex is like with or without Sasha Baron Cohen would be pushing back against this guy a little bit is getting sued. Well, there's that. But also the QAnon world and like the Reddit and 4chan sub, uh, subs about him are largely like, don't trust this guy. Like most of the internet's conspiracy community has red flags on Isaac Cappy. Oh, okay. Because there are stories like about him choking Paris Jackson.

Right. Because there are people from his past who have anonymously posted on these forums about knowing him and him being like an attention kind of horror guy. Yeah. Then also there are, uh, there are stories. These are apocryphal. I can't really sort these out or not. I'm only reporting this in as much as it is why these internet communities don't trust him.

Yeah. They say that he's tried to in private messages, uh, get people who are quote unquote whistleblowers to identify themselves as if it were a doxing operation, like trying to get private information from people. I don't know if that's true, but that's what they're saying on the web about him. So there's a distrust about him as a whole. I think Alex took this on as like a, well, I'm playing. I don't know.

I don't know why I'm using another goddamn poker metaphor, but I'm playing a Jack five suited. Maybe something weird will happen. You know, like he's, he's accepting this interview as like, I'm coming in with a bad hand. I can walk away from, I can fold in the middle of this. There's no big deal. I'm not, I'm not emotionally invested in this, but if it hits, it's going to hit big.

Right. We're in the middle of the interview and it is not hit. Yeah. It is not hit. No. But the weird thing that happens is that like Alex pushes back against him and he's like, chicken doesn't mean shit. And then he's like, he has a show called robot chicken.

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02:31:17,640 --> 02:31:18,120 Yeah. So he gets all, are you fucking with me? Yeah. So he gets that all out of his system. And then after he said it, it's almost like his hot headness cools. And then he's like, yeah, I know they are fucking kids in Hollywood. So, you know, maybe there's some truth to what you're saying. It kind of becomes like, we're cool.

Yeah. He, he's really aggressive to the point where Isaac is like, people fucking say this all the time, you know, use the delay. Right. And then Alex is just like, yeah, all right, you're cool. What? He didn't say anything to prove his point. And he's still Alex.

He's still Alex. He's still Alex. So he interviews him for like, I don't know, probably half an hour. And it's crazy. It's crazy. And he gets this, there's no, there's no more meat here. Yeah. There's no more meat.

Okay. They have already done like everything. We got what we wanted to get. Everything else that Isaac Cappy says is all just like the same shit. And like, well, I think this like no information at all. Yeah. So we've, we've dealt with him having the child delivery. We've heard him say that Seth Green has a.

Chicken. False room in his house and some plush animals. Yeah. And that he talks about chicken. However, this is the most important clip. Okay. Of it all. All right.

There's nothing to do with their, with their talking about it. It has everything to do with two dudes who are both trying to lie to each other. Coming to loggerheads. Okay. It's so good. Here we go. People always ask, why doesn't anyone from Hollywood? Why don't they come out?

Why are there no whistleblowers? Well, I'm right here. Okay. And this is like the best you're going to get for now until someone. With all the blackmail material, like. Well, I'm a whistleblower. I've been at like private super A list deals. And I'm like, those girls are not 16.

Maybe, maybe 16. I mean, I've seen it. You have. Oh, I don't doubt you have, but you haven't been intimate friends with these people like I have. Well, maybe you haven't talked about it yet. I'm assuming there, but I, you know, I, I, I know a lot of people in Hollywood. And the clips not done, the clips not done. But that's the greatest thing ever.

Bet you do. You fucking know, Seth green. What do you think you, what do you owe you? Seth green is your, is Seth green is your A-lister? Come on, man. These two guys are trying to ping pong back. Like I don't, this is just turned into a dick measuring contest about friends. Yeah.

My friends are more important than your friends. I haven't. I know Charlie Sheen. I haven't pointed this out at all. By the way, there's a guy in studio co-hosting with Alex who runs a TV network that plays Alex. Like he has some sort of like maybe a satellite TV channel and he plays info wars shows on it. I haven't played any of him cause his voice is a disaster.

It's just like the, it's like a movie phone guy. He has like a, hey, I'm a broadcaster and he's just an idiot. He doesn't say anything for a while, but he's sitting next to them while sitting there the whole time while they're bickering. First of all, the whole thing about chicken. He's just silently sitting there, but then also while they're bickering here about like, you know, like, you know, hey, you know, hey, I'm sure you've been to the parties, but you're not like good friends with them.

I mean, like, yeah, you don't know. I know, I know a lot of celebrities, but you do. So here's where that goes. See the top people who try to recruit me were the producers and the directors, the lawyers. I skipped right past the actors. You understand the actors are like, they're like the minions, right? Yeah, that's fine. I mean, it should be noted though that Seth Green has a big production company with a bunch of

TV shows under his banner. No one wins. I know the big producers of the doctors. Well, it should be done. Seth Green is the producer. And I love, I love that though, because Alex is trying to cock him by being like, look, you hung out with the actors, the producers tried to get me. And then very correctly, Cappy is like, Seth Green has a giant production company that runs

a show that's been on the air for 13 years and other shows. He's a, he's a massive player in terms of like being able to get things made. And then Alex is like, fair. Then without admitting that he's wrong, moves on to another point. So it's like, what are you guys doing? Wasn't this about the kid victims? Why are you guys, why are you guys pissing contest? Seriously, go to bed.

Come back to it. Yes, go to bed. Go to bed. Just go to bed. You guys aren't doing anything. Go to bed. So at this point, after this pissing contest, the guy who shall not be named, because I've forgotten his name and he's not important, starts talking about how like,

you know what in Hollywood, what it is, is really that all these people who didn't have friends in high school get to rise to prominence. You know, like all these people who are really anti-social and didn't have any friends get to find themselves in a position where they have power over other people. Yeah. And I mentioned this earlier, a friend of mine who I'm not going to name because it's, you know, their business, but I have a friend who is a casting agent. Eddie, I don't know if they're still at the same place, but they were working for

one of the two largest casting agencies in the country. Right. Right. And I've talked to them about the experience and, you know, like what, what they go through and none of this checks out. Oh, it doesn't? The reality of that world or anything odd. And I know them from high school.

I knew what they were like. And I'm using a ambiguous pronoun for a reason. They don't need their business on the street. Right. They were awesome. They had a lot of friends. They were super cool. I was, I was a social.

I was, I had trouble with stuff. And they were super nice to me. They made me feel very welcome and comforted. Like I, I haven't spoken to them in a long time in, in like chronological terms. Right. But I, which is why I don't have a job. It's probably been a couple of years since we've actually had a real conversation. But I care about them very much.

They, they were amazingly social at that point in life, which flies counter to this. A little bit. So that guy is very dumb. But it leads to Alex. All right. Man. All right. Come on.

Let's do it. This is so bad. Let's do it. This is so good. Here we go. And then they go to Hollywood and it's a big giant fly zapper, a big, a big web where they can now be in charge. And the cheerleader that wouldn't date them, they're going to crap all over her

and make them eat their poop. That's what they do. You know, that's one level of it. Like the Pope talks about, he, that's what he likes to do reportedly. I mean, think about that. So Pope Francis likes to make, So Pope Francis, Pope Francis makes people eat poo in general or his poop? It's hard to say based on pronoun reference, but I would assume, I would assume it's his,

right? You think so? Well, because Alex is, I mean, he's the Pope. He hasn't flown in from many different places. Oh, he gets that boutique. Yeah. This is Vatican poo we're talking about.

Artisanal poo. Yeah. Yeah. No, because Alex is saying that they crap all over them, which implies that the agency is on you. Right. You are the crapper and the crappy. Yeah.

But that's metaphorical. Politically. What are we doing? I don't know. What is this? What is going on? God damn it. God damn it, Dan.

What is going on? Are we, are we adults? Are we adults? No. No. Are there adults around? I'm glad this is a Friday. Can someone call an adult?

I'm glad this is a Friday show because it's sort of like, hey, you know what? I'm going to now do this new thing where it's like, on Friday, we let it all hang out. To explain this retroactively. Is anybody fucking paying attention? What are we doing? I also love to, like, if we can just take one second to pump the brakes, he's talking about the Pope making people eat shit. Yes.

Which is confirmed. Earlier, he said that Obama is fucking 10 dudes a day and that the Amtrak means something else, which we cannot have. Which we do not know. I have no idea what that means. I want to know what the, I want to know what Amtrak means. I imagine it's a train up your ass. I have no idea.

I can't, I don't know. I don't know. So the, the, the issue that I come away with it is when Isaac Cappy said, fuck on the show, he's like, it's a family show. No, it's not. That's right. I forgot. I forgot that he uses, it's a family show to describe what

like Scott Uckerman on comedy bang bang as a joke. It's like, it's not that kind of show. Yeah. 02:40:21,480 --> 02:40:26,120 But he's, Alex is legitimately saying like, this is a family show. Hey, hold on. This is for the, You're talking about the Pope making people eat shit?

Don't you know how the family gathers around? Like, what are you doing? It's like the, the, I hate, I hate him in the president because there's nothing really of substance and it's all this nonsense bullshit. Yeah. But I do on some level, I, there's, there's a part of me that likes it on some level just for how like, I don't even, I can't finish the sentence. He kind of thinks that his show is a prairie home companion,

except for sometimes he talks about the Pope making people eat shit. Well, you know what I, you know, if I had to give a, like a broad prediction, I would, I would say that like, The Pope is going to make somebody eat shit first. Abroad. Abroad. No, I think, and I, by that, I mean overseas. Is that what you mean?

Yeah, I'm, the, the thing that I'm going to predict. Two popes, one cup. The, the thing that, well, there are two alive now. The thing that I'm going to predict is that like, from all, You forgot the dark Pope though, there's three. The black Pope and Solomon's temple. There's three at least. The thing that I'm going to predict is that Alex is going to, from these lawsuits,

sort of learn his lesson that like, you can't do this to civilians. People in power aren't going to care. You can yell about Soros being a demon all you want. He's never going to sue you because he's bigger fucking issues. He doesn't care about whatever bullshit you're saying. He knows it's not true and he knows that libel laws are difficult. So whatever, just live your life, you know, enjoy it. He can do this to the Pope because the Pope's not going to sue him for saying

that he makes people eat shit. He doesn't give a shit. The Pope has much bigger things to do. Like recently he said that capital punishment is no good. Right. And he's also said that hell isn't real. Right. Pope Francis has big issues on his plate.

He did that through eating a bowl of shit though. Like that was one of the things that he was doing while he was like, Oh, shit is delicious. Also, by the way, capital punishment cannot do it. And why won't I get, I'm against the death penalty. I'm still going to protect child molesters, but I'm going to eat shit and I'm against the death penalty. I don't understand why the MSM won't report what he had his crudité

while he made these announcements. You know what I'm saying? Nothing cruder than his crudité. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. All the pool reporters were there. They could smell it. They could smell it.

Conspiracy. Flies spinning on Obama. Spinning around his mouth as the Pope says that the death penalty is no longer. Acceptable. So I don't, I don't know what my point was necessarily about like what the value of present day is. I guess it's just that nothing matters. Nothing matters in the present.

You know, like maybe that's the. Nothing matters. But I do like how weird some of this is and who knows. There's this last clip here. I think this is a perfect place to end because it's profoundly weird. Okay. There's nothing that sets this up like legitimately. Okay.

This doesn't come out of like a natural place. This isn't like an organic evolution of the conversation. I tried to go like maybe 15 seconds before to give it some context. But it would actually make it more confusing because the guy who runs that TV network is talking about something completely different and then Alex comes in with this. They send a transmission. It's spiritual. There's a transmission probably emanating out of, you know, one of the black holes,

they think. Sure. I'm sure that's what that spiritual. Like I die, die, die. Kill yourselves. Be scumbags because they just are transmission. Like all these planets, kill yourselves. No, do not listen to the transmission because there's a bigger transmission from God saying,

don't do it. So Alex, uh, he's not saying that they believe that he's arguing that from a black hole, there's a transmission that's trying to say, kill yourself to a bunch of planets that are unoccupied by anybody. But then we are getting this transmission from the black hole saying that we should kill ourselves. And by that, because we know Alex Jones enough, he means give minorities rights and be liberal with, uh, with that sort of thing.

That is what it will end up killing you be accepting of other people. Right. But God comes in and says, no, don't do that. And because we already know from our outer context drop Trump is Christ like do what Christ would do. So, which is be a monster. Explain to me real quick. I can't black holes, which they believe exist.

They do. Right. Send out a spiritual transmission, which would be tough to get out of the event horizon. You know, it would be tough to get a message out of the thing that sucks in. No, no, we've all read Einstein's theory of relativity. We know that the only thing that escapes the event horizon is the spirit and shifty messages. Shifty fucking. So, so black holes spit out a spiritual message willy-nilly at 360 degrees.

Yeah. All over the place. It's like on lost, you know, the black hole is like a Russo's transmission. You saw more dead. All right. All right. It's that it's all right. Give up all hope.

Right. They're dead. Right. Right. So, so then you should kill yourself. Right. Why do black holes do this? Is that a thing?

Are you trying? Are they are you trying to get the motivation? Are they are well is there a motivation behind the black hole or is the black hole doing it? Or is the black does the is the black hole the real victim here? And that it can't do anything but send out this transmission of yawning, cosmic pain? Like what's going on here? Is the black hole okay?

I'm most concerned. Jordan. About the black hole. Jordan, you've got this wrong. There is. I can think of no way that I've got this wrong. There is probably a Muslim who hates western civilization on the other end of that black hole. At the center of every black hole.

Who's just yelling. All right. I was out. Right. Right. Just like at the center of every union, at the center of every galaxy, there is a supermassive black hole at the center of every supermassive black hole. There is a supermassive Muslim.

Right. Or non-western person. Non-western person. Apologies. Right. Apologies. Could be a Chinese. Obviously in Alex's brain, it would present as a Muslim.

It could be a Chinese person as well. That's which you are most afraid of as a white. Yeah. Well, black hole is probably the best way of putting it. I love, I love this because what we've done now is we've accidentally walked ourselves backwards into like what I think would be the perfect Ben Garrison cartoon. Oh, there's a black hole and we name the black all Muslims.

And then there's rays coming out that kill yourself. And then there's planets that are like Peter Schiff. Like all of that shit. Yeah. Throw him in there. Yeah. Why not? Why not?

He's riding a bar of gold off of the distance for no reason. And then Trump is the son. Yeah. Why not? Why the fuck not? Sure. Yeah. Who gives a shit?

I love it though, man. That's nonsense. I love that's bananas. Yeah. And also it's a really fun way to end an episode where Alex is like. No, he's, he's, he's, wow. Like we spent the beginning of this with him defending himself about these very real lawsuits that are happening when we discuss the, the ins and outs of that to the,

the best of our ability as outsiders. We're not involved in his court cases or anything. We probably should be. You should call us to the stand. Maybe great at it. We know what we know and know what we don't, we don't pretend to, but we can discuss that. And that was the beginning of it. And then in the middle of it, he got into some clunky bullshit, some of it about the Amish.

And then at the end of the episode, he had a complete weirdo on to talk about chicken and make, make a legally actionable claim. Like I don't, I don't mean to, I don't mean to like undersell that. No, no, no, no. That's a crime. I know that he's already in the past said the same stuff in like periscopes, but this is different. This is a crime.

This is different. This is a crime. Alex should not have let him on the show. Uh-uh. Because he knew he was going to say this shit. It's kind of what he does. It's, there's every, there's every reason as a show person, as, as someone who's curating a presentation, when you have a guest on, you have a slight responsibility to understand

what they're going to say. Yeah. And if they commit libel, it's a little on you. Libel is usually an issue. It's a little on you. Usually. No, that libel is in print slander is when you say it, right? There's a, there's a difference.

And whatever. Who cares? It's all the same shit. Anyway, there's probably some crimes here. I don't know. Alex is so bogged down in lawsuits that who gives a shit. He's going to be busy for a while. For sure.

Probably just going to let this one slide. Seth Green doesn't seem litigious. Who knows? Hey, he's probably fine. Anyway, I look forward to, uh, seeing the next season of chicken, uh, which is a very different show apparently. And never hearing about this dude ever again. I doubt he's going to be in the new season of robot chicken.

I'll tell you that. He hasn't worked in two years coming in to talk shit on his erstwhile friend. Oh boy. Anyway, Jordan, this has been a lot of fun. This has been a lot of fun. Sorry. Sorry. This went a little longer than expected.

That happens. But, uh, we have a website. Wait. Our show went a little bit longer than expected. I think we called that out at the beginning of the show. Pretty much. Um, we have a website, knowledge fight.com. People can go to, to find, uh, stuff.

Indeed. You could also go to fill your hand.com or you could go to our Twitter page. It's at knowledge underscore fight. Right. Not the best Twitter presence in the world. Uh-uh. But we're especially since I completely deleted my, uh, social media presence entirely. So I am not good at anything social media wise.

But we're on Facebook. Indeed. We are the only place where I actually think that there is consistent activity and regular engagement. And I'd also like to say, um, since we put the word out that, uh, the place to go is the group go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. We've seen a lot of traffic come in. We've seen, uh, some, uh, some wonks, uh, and some listeners come on board, uh, who

were probably just hanging out on the page and not knowing where the action was. And I appreciate it. We're up, uh, we're up over 300, uh, deep in that group now. Hell yeah. Which is great. Maybe it's not that many people total, but it's fucking awesome for our weird community. Hell yeah. For two non-fan having comedians, one who's quit doing stand up in the middle of Chicago

recording in a bedroom. That's pretty fucking good. It's not bad. So thank you all for joining. And if you would like to keep more tabs on what's actually happening, the group is the way to go. Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. Uh, it's a private group, but you can request, uh, you'll get in.

Yeah. Uh, you, oh, it's iTunes. iTunes. Oi tunes. Oi tunes is where you can go. Sure. Uh, we're on Spotify. We're not on Spotify.

I think all it would take is just me clicking a button though. You know what's actually, you know, that's not true. Cause I already submitted us for Spotify. They were super specific in who they chose. They're specific. Hi. Hey, hey, hey. Ooh, nice.

Well, you know, we don't do a great job with that stuff either, but. No, that's true. Anyway. Um, what else do we got? Nothing. I think it's your turn. Is it, is my turn? No, I just say that every time.

Oh, okay. Well, I will tell you this and I don't know why it is, but this entire episode to me, uh, it seems like it's one guy's fault. And, uh, I'm going to go with for being such weak bullshit that Alex had to call in this motherfucker, Mark dice, go fuck yourself. I'm fine with that. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex. I'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.