Knowledge Fight - #192: August 10, 2018
Episode Date: August 13, 2018Today, Dan tells Jordan about what Alex Jones is up to since he got kicked off of a lot of social media. Is he shook? Yes. Does he have stupid ideas about what's happening to him? Of course he does. H...e's also ranting about China and expressing his fear of seeing Muslim women in public, so it's clear that being off social media hasn't changed him that much.
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Andy and Chanzas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work.
I love you.
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Indeed, we are. Dan?
What up?
Dan?
What?
Uh, where was the last vacation you took?
Last vacation I took was last night, hanging out with you and your girlfriend, drinking Dom Perignon.
It was weird.
It was a vacation to luxury.
It was.
It was.
Other than that, I don't know. Do you count doing comedy on the road a vacation?
Um, sure.
Then I guess I don't know the drop in Indiana.
Yeah.
All right. All right.
That's everybody in Indiana.
Everybody loves vacationing in Indiana.
South Bend.
You've seen so many tourism commercials for Indiana.
Yeah.
I went and did a weekend with the delightful Nick Rowley out there.
Oh, that sounds fun.
It was a super fun time.
Cool.
Do you know a lot about Alex Jones?
I do.
Would you say more so than most people in Indiana?
Yes.
It's my permanent vacation studying Alex Jones.
I'm not sure.
That wasn't so great.
And I know less about Alex Jones than a lot of people in Indiana, I assume.
I would.
I don't know.
There's a lot of, uh, actually I went and did, uh, I was not on the show, but I went
and hung out with a friend of the show, Marty DeRosa in a show he did in the middle of nowhere in Indiana.
Right.
It's one of the few times I've ever seen an Info Wars shirt in the wild.
Really?
Yeah.
And Info Wars hat and a Hillary for Prison shirt.
Oh boy.
And I almost fell out of my, uh, my booth, my bar booth.
I was so taken aback by this weirdo.
So I know less about Alex Jones than him?
That's true.
Or perhaps I know more about Alex Jones than him since he bought his merchandise.
Yeah.
He might, he might, uh, have all the, all the trappings of a mark.
Wrong knowledge.
Yeah.
Uh, but someone who doesn't have the trappings of the mark is our new donor.
Very excited to give a shout out to this person jumping on, coming on board.
We appreciate it so much.
Thank you.
You are now policy wonk.
Dr. Dylan.
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much, Dr. Dylan.
It is, uh, it is lovely to have multiple people with advanced degrees follow our show.
I'm not sure if this is an actual doctor or just the name that's been, uh, he's chosen to take on.
Dr. Dylan is a medical doctor.
I believe that.
And, uh, I can only imagine that he treated me for the rickets once getting the honorific title of, uh,
of policy wonk second only to medical degree.
Um, so Jordan today, we got something very exciting in your lab.
We got a, we got another package.
Got a little something in the mail.
I know actually that this one is from, uh, from listener, uh, Catherine who actually called in on our last episode.
Oh man.
She is a becoming an all star apparently.
This is going to just turn into the Catherine.
Yeah.
Apparently.
Uh, no, it's not, but, uh, there we go.
What do we got?
What do we got here?
Oh,
Super fight a game of absurd arguments.
Oh, oh no.
That could be a very dangerous thing for us to engage in.
Super fight is a game where you argue with your friends over ridiculous fights.
That sounds like what we would do with or without a car.
Yeah.
The game is very simple.
It's fun for all levels and works for all kinds of players.
Why are we running an ad for this?
I don't know.
I don't know.
They deserve a plug because we just got a free copy.
Sure.
Sure.
Sure.
Here you go.
This would have been nice for last night when we were drinking Dom Perignon in your house.
Do you know what that was?
Do you know what that is?
That is the, uh, book by Chris Backelder writ large.
So that's bear versus shark right there.
Yeah.
Basically.
Yeah.
Bear versus shark turned into a game.
Yeah.
Well, thank you so much, Catherine.
That's very nice of you.
We appreciate it.
We will give this a test run the next time we're doing something maybe after the show.
Yeah.
It's entirely possible.
Or maybe we'll just start a branched off podcast now.
I'll just get around.
You don't have to be here.
I don't.
People can call in and I'll have absurd arguments.
I'll play that game with people.
Who cares?
I don't know.
He will do that off air.
Um, he'll just convince you that you are recording and it's just really him like being alone.
Just like, Hey, anybody want to, anybody want to play some, play some game?
Um, but, uh, if you do call in, that is something you can do.
You might end up on our voicemail.
So let's check.
Here we go.
We got segments now, son.
Too many bits up top.
Yeah, but we did get another call.
I'm very excited to hear this a little bit of information from a listener.
Hello, Dan and Jordan.
This is Andrew from Reading, California.
You may not know, but 530 represents many cities and Reading is powered north of Chico.
So if you come all the way to Chico to do a live show,
I expect to see you in Reading.
And also I just wanted to say, I love you.
Oh, Andy in Kansas.
Um, what a, what a fun thing this is turning into now where we're being bullied into a
tour of small town, California.
Hey, I mean, Chico has like 80,000 people in it.
I, that's not a small town.
Shut up.
I wanted, I wanted it to come off as though I knew random population.
Yeah, I just know populations.
No big deal.
Reading has a, you know, 140,000.
I like that.
And I like the idea that this is going to become sort of a thing that people are going to insist
we do and we're making a mistake about it.
We're not.
No, it's not going to happen.
Please, please.
We would love to.
We would love to.
And we appreciate your threats.
Logistics are tough.
Exactly.
Um, but thank you for the call.
We appreciate it.
If you'd like to reach us, you can do so by calling one 530 neon nip.
Just one.
Just one nip.
The other one died tragically in a phone call accident.
Yes, indeed.
You can reach our voicemail and I don't know if I start playing this super fight game on
the phone and you can play that with me on it.
And apparently if you're from the 530 zip code, we're, you're the only ones whose voicemails
are going to get played on the show.
For now.
Yeah.
It is strong.
So, uh, Jordan, today what we've got in front of us is, uh, a current episode.
All right.
Uh, generally like.
How's he doing?
Is he okay?
Has anybody, uh, like has a therapist called on?
71 70.
Yeah.
Yeah.
86 on the 86.
21 12.
Yeah.
Yeah.
9 11.
Yeah.
Uh, no, he's still left to his own devices.
Uh-huh.
Um, so we generally like to start the week out with the 2009 episode, but if I'm being perfectly
honest, I'm making progress through those episodes, listening to them, uh, getting through it.
And he's in a bit of a boring state.
So if I were to come with you with the information that I have from the next few days in 2009,
we'd have kind of a dry episode.
And on top of that, I think that right now we're in a situation where I think everybody
wants to know what the fuck's going on with him.
Absolutely.
And I'll tell you what's going on with him.
Chinese.
Not a whole lot.
For a guy who has been kicked off of everything more or less.
Yeah.
And now is just spinning his wheels in this, this, this weird state that he's found himself
in.
He's a, it's, it's a bad, it's a bad show.
He's reeling.
I don't think so.
He's just saying the same shit over and over again.
It's really, it's profoundly boring.
I mean, you nailed it already with the, he's just blaming China, which I mean, he was already
doing that before for years.
Right.
So that's not anything new.
He's not evolving the narrative at all.
It's all very, very boring.
Hmm.
So I listened to, he's phoning it in.
Yeah.
More or less.
I think he's just waiting for like the guillotine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he can pretend it's a noble death or something like that.
Yeah.
The political guillotine.
Right.
Right.
Because if Twitter goes, then he's in deep, deep trouble.
I don't know.
I read that they're sticking by him pretty hard for no reason anyone can say considering
that no reason anyone could even think of.
No.
And they, they even admitted that whenever they said he didn't violate their terms and
conditions, uh, then people brought up all those tweets and they're like, okay, so yeah,
he did, but we're still not going to kick them off.
Right.
Actually, Alex has a theory about why he hasn't been kicked off Twitter, which we'll get to
in a little bit.
But if he doesn't, like, if he doesn't stay on Twitter, then Periscope is gone and that's
going to be a huge amount of his ability to live stream things on the internet.
Like there are other options.
There's like all those other right wing or even just a lesser things.
I don't mean lesser, but there's less people who watch like daily motion or something like
that.
But there are those, those secondary video streaming services and he could do any of those
things.
Has he been kicked off Google plus yet?
I don't know.
I can't.
No one knows what's going on in Google plus.
He could stream on LinkedIn.
Sure.
Can you?
I don't know.
I've never been on it.
Me neither.
Um, so, I mean, he's, you'd think that he should be a little bit more like fired up.
Yeah, absolutely.
This is a rallying the troops.
He's not.
And, and I'll, I'll say that, uh, I listened to the August 9th episode and it was incredibly
boring and I wouldn't be going over it except for things like this that he says.
But they want to arrest the former mayor of London who's a liberal because he said there's
people, Burke is everywhere.
And that's not good in a Western society.
Where are the feminists?
They're looking at arresting him.
I have the articles at this point.
Alex pulls up an article about how they aren't going to arrest Boris Johnson for his anti
Muslim comments.
All right.
So then he has to scramble.
First, they were saying it was the criminal offense.
Now they're saying it isn't this is their intimidation.
I was in a cheesecake factory and women came in and the beekeeper suits scared the hell
out of me.
I had three daughters.
They were there with me.
They're like, dad, what's that woman was getting food and eating under a deal.
She's a slave under Sharia.
So now we can add whole the weights.
What did he call it?
I did not know what he was talking about until the later contact.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
That's one of his really insulting things that he says.
That's pretty insulting.
Yeah.
Pretty crazy.
But also now we can add cheesecake factory to the pool supply shop at the place where
Alex does not think Muslim women belong.
It's scarce to see them there in any way.
That's pathetic.
That all I hear there is like, that's, that's you, dude.
That's so weird.
In his defense.
I do think a lot of people view the cheesecake factory as the last great white bastion of
freedom.
I don't disagree for white people specifically.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody else can tolerate that sort of bullshit.
No.
It's terrible.
I will say that I live in a neighborhood in Chicago that has a pretty diverse population
and there are a lot of people who walk around in her jobs or even burkas.
And I don't think I don't have a second thought about it.
Yeah.
I walk by and I give the head nod that I give to everybody that I walk past in my social
life.
I can't imagine what, well, actually I can.
It's just bigotry.
But like other than that, I can't imagine a rational reason to be like, I'm scared to
see these people in public.
Boycotting the fabric industry because they, they, they, they're using more fabric than
me.
The Middle East.
I guess.
The Middle East is at the textile market corner for centuries.
Exactly.
For too long.
That's where the whole Berka thing started.
They were just like, we have so much fabric.
Excessive amounts of fabric.
So the issue that it comes down to, and actually I found this awesome article in Vox that
I'll get to a little bit of what, there's a great response to this.
But Boris Johnson was talking about Muslims wearing coverings.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said some racist things and then he refused to take them back.
Well, because there's that, there's that whole attempting to ban burkas or have you,
and his comment was, quote, if you say that it's weird and bullying to expect that,
expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree.
I would go further and say that it's absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go
around looking like letter boxes.
He also said that if, quote, a female student turned up at school or at a university lecture
looking like a bank robber, he would ask her to remove her face covering in order to speak
to him.
He added that humans, quote, must be able to see each other's faces.
So people came to his aid somewhat, people on his side, because this one guy, Ian Martin,
he commented that quote, he put, he tweeted this out, many reasons to dislike the burqa,
but dis, dislike the burqa, but disrespect of the death who often need to see faces to
follow communication always high on the list.
Wow.
So that is a take.
In response.
That is a hot fucking take.
Whoa.
In response.
Do you know why we have to ban burkas cause the death can't read your lips, assholes.
Some good responses to this people just clowning on him after that on Twitter.
This one person wrote, as a deaf person, I kindly ask you not to speak for me.
I do not find it disrespectful and encourage those to wear and be able to wear whatever
they want to choose.
It's their face and their right to cover it.
It's weird how she ended that with also, I don't even like those people, which is like,
wait, I like where you're, I don't know which team I'm on here.
Josh underscore Salisbury came in with, you know, who else covers their face and make
it hard to lip read literally any man with a beard.
I welcome you all to go clean, shave and out of respect for the deaf and hard of hearing
people.
Michael Unaki came in with, I'm a deaf writer.
I've interviewed Muslims and I've asked that very question about the burka.
The response was simple.
We will find a way to help you communicate.
So that's nice.
Yeah.
That's pretty much, I believe the general feel of it.
So this is what Boris Johnson isn't getting in trouble for.
And Alex is responding to, to the point where he has to say, I don't want to see any Muslims
in a cheesecake factory.
Right.
Cool.
You know, the thing about what Boris Johnson said is that it's dumb.
Even if you let go of the bigotry part of it, like the idea that he is saying, I think
it's ridiculous that people should choose to wear this as, is just a farcical thing
to say because look at you, you're ridiculous for all the things you choose to do.
The hair cut choice.
Yeah, exactly.
Look at your dumb fuck face.
You choose to continue having that.
You could get fucking plastic surgery.
Wow.
Look at your goddamn clothes.
You choose to wear those and they're fucking terrible.
What are you talking about?
You idiot.
That Vox article also posted, they have like a really choice, unflattering choice picture
of him hanging from a zipline appears, do they mention that at all?
No, it's, it's that picture of him hanging from a zipline with like a helmet on.
Yeah.
And it's like really bunching up all his clothes and Boris Johnson who is clearly concerned
with not looking ridiculous.
Yeah.
Okay.
There we go.
I was going to say, I was, I was hoping they would just put that there with no comment
at all.
They got a little petty.
You guys, you guys make your own decisions about who looks ridiculous here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Alex, that's just straight up, that's just straight up bigotry.
That's all that is.
And you trying to put it off on, you have daughters that's not, that's not fair.
That's stupid.
You're using them as a, as a, as a prop.
Well, he was trying to teach them to lippery at the time, like in the cheesecake factory.
He don't know if his daughters are deaf.
That's a good point.
That there we go.
Anyway, his son better not grow a beard.
I'm not going to shave mine, but Alex on the night also had some other big, huge news
that actually is like, Hey, info wars is great.
We're doing awesome.
Really?
Imagine where the number one app in news on Android and on Apple.
Nope.
And what is their response?
30 something now in the world.
Now, again, when you keep showing from yesterday, it's just a screenshot of, of trending go
to the actual news.
We're number one on Apple pull it up with that.
Had the crew in there get us together, the new screenshots, please.
I don't want to keep using the old ones, but you can't use new ones cause there aren't
new ones.
You were streaming, you were number one on trending because of the massive growth that
you had.
Yeah, exactly.
Number three or number five on the other charts and that's still good.
But if you go in, if you go and look at them now that dropped considerably because those
algorithms that like iTunes uses in particular, I know this from talking to tons of people
who do podcasts.
If you see a massive spike in growth, you get bumped up the charts because it's something
that they want people to see.
It must be something that's gathering a lot of heat.
Let's put this in front of people's faces.
So the idea that he, he's like, he's at the exact right time to say this sort of shit,
but it, even right now, we're recording this on the 12th, it's dropped off and that's
exactly what any right thinking person would have predicted.
Of course.
There'll be a massive wave of people who were already on board going to it and then you're
going to see diminishing returns from there.
Right.
So, because he has a plateau of actual people who listen, right?
So there are all people who are like, they were all people who for a month, a year.
Years were like, how do I get apps on my rotary phone?
Exactly.
And then they just got it.
Old man house phone.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He does now.
Yeah, he does.
I think that guy's probably dead.
We can only hope.
I feel very sad about that.
He had a great radio voice.
Anyway.
That's true.
You guys do stick together, don't you?
We, you know what?
Birds of a feather.
Birds of a voice.
Me, old man, house phone.
Yeah.
And that homeless guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The three of us get together.
We play.
Yeah.
It's a great time.
Oh boy.
Can you imagine those velvety tones arguing me and that radio guy?
Oh God.
Ah, be amazing.
I would listen to that for days.
So he's trying to get the, you know, he's still aware that people can listen to the
podcast even if they're not listed on iTunes or anything like that.
Yeah.
He's trying to push migrate people towards the podcast and I'm going to say this.
I posted this in our group, go home and tell your mother you're brilliant on Facebook.
I was trying to find his podcast today because I was trying to find these episodes.
Yeah.
And if you go to his podcast page on info wars.com, there are five episodes listed.
All of them are January 1st, 1970, which can't possibly be an episode because he wasn't
born.
He was not alive.
I, you know, with the amount of time travel we've talked about on this show, I do not
rule out him going back in time to it, to, uh, when, when the media, when the media landscape
was unregulated, recorded those podcasts, unfortunately did not realize that the technology
necessary to listen to them would not exist until much later on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But way out of his time.
Brilliant.
Really.
Love it.
People, people talk a lot about Mark Marin and pioneering podcasts.
Fuck that.
No.
AJ all the way.
So I couldn't find the podcast and that's all good and well, because if you just Google,
uh, Alex Jones and then a specific date, look in the video section, you'll find an unmarked
video of the entire episode.
People are just going to keep doing that.
But the real fun of it was, this was a couple of days ago and the episode had a hundred
hits.
So you start to get the sense of like, uh, who is really searching this out in various
places.
It's probably way less than you think, but I still can't find his podcast.
And there's no way I'm going to subscribe or anything like that.
That's absurd.
Then he's just going to clog my phone up with a bunch of Owen shroyer episodes and shit.
War room, David Knight.
No, thanks.
But there's one thing that is a bonus about the podcast.
What's that?
Infowars.com forward slash show.
Go subscribe directly to the podcast.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
Hear what you're not supposed to hear.
And once you download it on Android or app, tell folks about it.
But more importantly, infowars.com forward slash show, David Knight's program, Roger
Stone and Owen shroyer's, uh, war room, my broadcast.
It's all there.
And then finally, the biggest thing at the end of the day that fights the bullies that
fights the tyrants that fights the control freaks is what you do when you support us
financially.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You get great products at the same time.
You can make a straight donation at info wars.com.
The rare double add to the ad pivot.
It's all that man.
It is all that.
It's all ads.
So much.
Please find us and listen to us.
I am not going to put out a great product for you to listen to until you all find us
and listen to us more or less.
I mean, it's a lot of fucking selling.
It's a lot of selling.
It's a lot of blame the Chinese.
Right.
So at this point, he does like a good five minutes of talking about like how great colloidal
silver is, how great B12 is or whatever.
I mean, it gets to the end of the commercial and I keep this in only for what he says after
the end of the commercial.
But do know this is after minutes of talking about his products.
Well, these products are 1995 summer, 995, but DNA forces something special and we buy
a lot more of it.
So we're able to lower the price of it from $140 to normally $99 or right now it is $70
in the store.com or in for his life.com or triple A two, five, three, three, one, three,
nine.
They think America's going now without a fight.
They think they're going to just push us aside easily.
No, we have victory in our blood.
We have destiny in our heart.
We have will in our soul.
And we will never back down and never get it.
In fact, as they could see, the war hammer is ready.
We are energizing towards the main collision.
It's good timing.
It's good timing.
I just hear.
Do we just get the 300 speech and then it ended with because that's the part of the do
host.
But like, dude, all I hear there is fucking artificial excitement.
All I hear is you can't.
Ramp yourself up that quickly from, look, this product $70, but it's really good.
You guys should probably get it.
That's so fake.
It's just so performative.
It's disgusting.
We have so much victory in our blood.
We're silver in there doing a going out of business.
Our products are 50% off.
That means that like all mattress stores, we're going to be in business forever.
I don't know if I have the clip in one of the clips that I have, but there's a part
where he's like, you know, like, uh, you know, most of the store is free shipping.
Fuck it.
Free shipping on everything.
Oh, you're a used car dealer now.
This isn't bad.
This is real bad.
Yep.
Um, but the other thing too is, uh, even in his diminished state and you know, the place
that he's in and how laughable all this is and how naked that is on the phobia is that
he's manifesting when he says stuff like we're ramping up to the final collision.
If you're on board with him, that's the sort of thing that's really going to stick in your
crawl.
Yeah.
That's the sort of thing that's going to be like, I better get my guns ready.
I better be ready whenever, because they've been listening to him forever and he's like,
it's not time for offensive violence or whatever.
They're expecting him to eventually come to him or is like, now it's time.
Yeah.
And so when he says we're ramping up for the final collision, it's almost impossible not
to think that that means we got to take back the Republic.
We've been trying to with the information war, but now the information war is no good
because all these Chinese people are against us.
That's what happens.
It's, uh, it's dangerous.
It's just even, even with much less penetration into the market and stuff like that, that
sort of rhetoric is still fucking gross and dangerous.
Um, all I can say to that is, uh, he actually did play that is intro music one of these
days and he's like, maybe we should call this the final countdown.
I thought he was going to call it the final collision and he was, he just, the final
collision.
He hates that song though, because it's by the band Europe and he's like, that band
is trying to take away other bands, national sovereign.
That sounds right.
Right.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Like tracks.
I don't think he's wrong though.
They have been going after.
Yes.
For 30 years.
You should have said Berlin.
One of those actual, uh, it's not a country, but still air France.
The orchestra.
Baobab.
America.
Oh, of course.
That was obvious.
Yeah.
How did we miss that one?
Europe.
The, the staunch enemies of the human league, they're actually, they're not ready to take
on America.
They're just starting with Kansas.
That's there.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, they could have been starting with Chicago.
Maybe they already got Chicago and they moved up to Kansas.
Yeah.
Chicago, classically globalist band.
No non-globalist band would have that, no Americana band would have that kind of feisty
horn work.
Did you just say feisty horn work?
I did.
Have you ever listened to 25 or 64?
I, I have not, I have not, I have not heard horn work be, uh, described as feisty before.
I like that.
So it's, it's, it's horn work that's looking for a fight.
Feisty.
Yeah.
It's not looking for a fight.
It's more like, uh, it's the wild little, you know, it's a little crazy.
It's just feisty mean looking for a fight.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It has, it has a little bit.
It's taken on a different, it's, it's a broader.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's more of a connotation to it than a definition, I suppose.
I, I, I see the horn work that I'm describing as being more playful and a little, a little,
uh, restless.
Okay.
Anyway, let's get off this.
So I, let's pull up the OED.
Sure.
Yeah.
Let's get this settled once and for all.
These are the only things that I really thought were interesting that I listened to on the
ninth.
And so I'm like, shit, I got to listen to the 10th now.
Cause I got to, I mean, I have to find something.
That's not an episode.
No.
Um, and granted, we could just cover over and over again.
I'm talking about the chai comms and shit like that, but I'm good.
What's the point?
Yeah.
I feel like we nailed that.
So I listened to the 10th as much as I could.
I'll say that.
Oh no.
I didn't end the episode because I was like, you know, in, in, in the same way that a couple
of times in the past I've been like, I can't take this anymore.
Yeah.
This is gross or whatever.
Yeah.
It was more just like, I don't have the time for this.
I just listened to hours and hours of other shit.
I don't have the time to know where you're going with this, Alex.
I don't have the time and it was just so boring.
But there are a couple of things that are worth mentioning and a couple, there's a real
serious trend in this, the period that I listened to that I think, um, it, it worries me in
much the same way that that final collision, uh, outro from, uh, from this episode did.
Um, I think there's stuff to be worried about, uh, but Alex starts, uh, our, our, uh, exploration
of August 10th, 2018 with, uh, talking a little bit about David Hogg.
What?
By the way, there's more dis info out there from CNET news and all of them.
I noticed that seeing it in the web cops, the racketeers that spend all their time trying
to get everybody to be platformed to shut down conservative, renational pro-trunk speech
ahead of the midterms.
Right?
I noticed yesterday they were doing reports on things out of context.
I said out about David Hogg and about Parkland and about other events and I just said, delete
that stuff.
It's not even, they're twisting one I said, but just, just to take the super high road,
delete it.
The super high road.
That turns into Twitter finally took action and took down the evil tweets of Alex Jones.
David Hogg was wearing a literal armband and posing for it's saluting with his fist up
on the air calling for gun confiscation and people were calling that Nazi.
And I said, well, it sure looks like that, but it doesn't matter.
The left calls people Nazis all the time.
Generally when they hang out with Nazis.
Or when they are Nazis.
Yeah, those sort of things.
Right.
So, Alex is starting to present this as a thing where CNN comes out with this article
about all of the times that he did in fact breach Twitter's policies.
Yeah, of course.
And point out, oh, Twitter, you say that you would ban him if he broke your rules.
Here are all the times he broke your rules.
Right.
And so he, his response on his show, instead of dealing with that, what he says is like,
everyone's saying all this David Hogg stuff.
I was like, yeah, look, they're going to misinterpret that.
Just fucking take it down.
I'm going to take the super high road about this.
Like, no, you're not.
You're scared.
You are fucking so scared that they're going to get rid of your Twitter.
Yeah.
If they take him off Twitter, he's, he's been effectively banished.
It's a mess.
I mean, still has his site.
And if, if what his site is doing is good and people want it, you don't need Facebook
and Twitter.
You really don't.
Because if you have an audience of what he pretends is tens and tens of millions of
people.
That's two billion people.
Well, the, that's a whole other thing.
That was just one ad that he cut, but we said it was a 10th of the world.
No, no.
But even if you have millions or tens of millions of listeners, if what you're doing is quality
and people will respond to it, then you don't need anything other than the platform which
you're putting it out on.
Cause word of mouth will naturally spread it and people will be like, Oh my God, this
is really awesome.
And they'll tell their friends about it.
It's a natural growth to things that are decent.
And you don't necessarily need those platforms.
And so he, what he's doing does need those platforms though, because it's based on immediacy.
It's based on deceit.
It's based on getting it.
What he does is the journalistic equivalent of a smash and grab robbery.
Because yeah, by the time the truth is all like sort of discussed, he's already come
up with an inflammatory narrative about it.
And that is just going to resonate with people who are all like, listen to him and the, the
common, common sense, calm down kind of sense.
It's not going to, it's not going to matter.
He needs the immediacy of social networks like Twitter and Facebook in order to get people
riled up with his immediate narrative.
And if he doesn't do that, then people will listen to his show like a day later and his
narratives will already be soiled.
Yeah.
The other thing that he needs is the backlash.
Yes.
And if people aren't paying attention, if his voice isn't amplified enough for, you know,
media matters or CNN or somebody to be like, Alex Jones said, but then he doesn't have
the reactionary elements either.
And that's actually really interesting because I think that a lot of those places are going
to, I don't, I'm not sure if they have already, but they're going to get shutter.
They're going to get to the point where they're like, we don't care about covering Alex anymore.
Too small.
Alex is already preemptively creating a narrative about that.
He's saying now that they've taken me down, what they're going to do is start going after
Steven Crowder.
It was a guy.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Right.
But I don't know who he is, but I'm fine with it.
Right.
But that's the, that's the way of justifying why no one cares to talk about him anymore.
Yeah.
Is like, oh yeah, they, they're done with me.
Now they're moving on to their next hit piece, hit target or whatever.
Man.
That's why they don't talk about us.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I, I don't know.
I lost my train of thought.
We need to start some shit with a conservative blog and then get our own reactionary.
Yes.
That's what we got to do.
Let's try and troll the blaze.
Yeah.
Let's get them.
Let's get Glenn back after us.
We can reach rapprochement afterwards.
I'm sick of, I'm sick of him not getting after us.
He could cry on our show in a sweater.
It would be great.
That would be great.
Yeah.
Would he wear a tie underneath the sweater?
I wear a tie, but I'll tell you what he's not going to wear an arm band.
Cause that's what people like David Hogg wear.
Oh, Nazis.
Who call other people Nazis?
That's what they do.
That's their trick.
So Jordan, did you know that Nazis are not the only people who ever used an arm band as
an accessory or to make a statement?
In fact, it's one of the most common things ever.
Football players commonly wear branded arm bands to fulfill sponsorship deals that they
couldn't otherwise.
Nazis.
They're not allowed to alter their jerseys.
Nazis.
In soccer, they often use arm bands to denote who the team captain is.
Seems Nazi like.
Going back to as far as the late 1700s, the wearing of a black arm band has been a symbol
of mourning, which I think is a very easy leap to make.
And you can make a strong argument that David Hogg and his fellow students were deeply in
mourning.
Hmm.
You know, the Nazis used to mourn.
Oh yeah, they did.
Further, there's a rich history of black arm bands also being used as a sign of protest.
For example, on December 16th, 1965, John Hinker, 15 years old, Mary Beth Hinker, 13 years
old, and Christopher Eckhart, 16 years old, wore black arm bands to school to symbolize
their opposition to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
They got suspended and then sued the school, leading to Tinker versus Des Moines Independent
Community School District 393, which resulted in the Supreme Court deciding that the school
violated the student's free speech by suspending them for wearing their arm bands.
You could also make a really strong argument that David Hogg and the fellow students wearing
arm bands, particularly black arm bands, might be hearkening back to this sort of history,
student activism, mourning, all of those things come into play altogether where a black arm
band is almost the perfect thing for David Hogg to be wearing.
Right.
Now further, there's a famous expression coined by historian Jeffrey Blaney that is, quote,
the black arm band view of history, which refers to a views of history that suggests that, quote,
much of pre-multicultural Australian history had been a disgrace, largely relating to the
horrible treatment of minorities, namely the Aborigines.
I can't think of any parallels.
So I'm just saying that there's a lot of black arm bands throughout history.
Nazis used to have students, too, Dan.
Sure.
Did any of them?
Some probably protested.
Nah.
They didn't get suspended, though.
They probably got killed.
Yeah.
They probably murdered.
The biggest issue I have is all of this makes perfect sense if you just take a little bit
of time to look at it.
Just take a little time.
What is the history of a black arm band?
Is it always the Waffen SS?
It's only the Nazi youth, right?
It's not.
It's really not.
There's a lot of history to black arm bands about student activism in mourning, which are
very relevant.
And then on top of that, Alex, when the other side is calling people Nazis, I do agree that
sometimes it's a little bit too capriciously thrown around, but I don't remember who made
this argument.
Godwin.
It's probably a very famous argument, but if you are hanging out with a Nazi, you're
a Nazi.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That just sort of like, if you are in a group of people and a Nazi is there and they aren't
thrown out, you are now in a group of Nazis.
Pretty much.
If you tolerate Nazis, you are a Nazi, you son of a bitch.
So let's broaden that.
Right.
Right.
What party is totally cool with Nazis and elected one of them to the White House?
Boy, if you are, let's say a member of a certain political party, right?
And you go to a rally put together by, let's call it the leader of the free world, right?
And he espouses Nazi beliefs.
Right.
And his dad is a Nazi and his grandfather is a Nazi.
Right.
It's entirely possible.
And in fact, probable that if you turn and look around one out of every eight people is
going to be a Nazi.
Right.
So that kind of makes all of you Nazis, right?
Right.
So it's almost like we have a Nazi party.
Would you call them the right?
But you could call them the right.
I don't know.
It's yeah.
At least they're not socialists.
Amen, brother.
So in this next clip, Alex has a plan for what he's going to do in order to get his
own version of rapprochement.
I got to start using that word.
You love using that word though.
It's a fun word.
You love it.
He wants you should go back to Dayton.
I would prefer that.
Well, it's different though, because he wants something, you know, Daytona is just sort
of like a calming of yeah.
It's an armistice.
Yes.
Where rapprochement is where you give in.
It's an agreement.
It's an agreement.
Yeah.
It's compromise.
And Alex thinks that he's going to get something out of this next plan.
And the only thing he's going to get out of it is probably me seeing some fucking awesome
shit on C spam.
So I have requested and I'm going to read this statement when we come back from break.
I'm going to read it when we come back from break.
My statement calling for hearings in Congress and I demand respectfully that I be able to
be at those hearings and be able to lay out what's really happened because I've been
demonized and I've been lied about and they've done all these horrible things that I need
to be able to sit there as an American as my birthright and do that.
Is that your birthright?
It's not.
But man, I would love it.
This is never going to happen, but I would love it if they ended up having congressional
hearings and that Alex had to watch TV for C spam.
Can you imagine what you would see?
Like you would have like conservative Republican senators, Congress people who are like, what
do we do?
Because like their default position should probably be like, we got to try and help
him.
Excuse me.
But then they know.
Mr. Jones, could you give at least some differences between you and Nazi propagandist
Goebbels?
I have a beard now.
Okay.
Well, there we go.
I think we can end this hearing, right everybody?
Everybody?
Substantive difference.
Can we end this hearing?
Did Goebbels ever have a victory beard?
Did Goebbels sell supplements?
Good point.
Good point.
Good point.
Goebbels was not necessarily as economically invested in his propaganda as you are.
I'm not sure that I fully articulated what I mean, but I think it would be fascinating
to see if Alex Jones crosses the line that which they will defend, you know, like a lot
of the Republicans in Congress are total shitheads and they've just abdicated any responsibility
in terms of doing their job.
Oh, Devin, Devin Nunez even gave up the game.
It was like the only reason that we need to control the house is because the president
should be impeached and we're the only ones stopping that from happening.
Yeah.
Great.
And then good work, dude.
And then you have people like Jim Jordan, who Alex idolizes and you have people like
Matt Gates who went on Alex's show and then was like, yeah, I shouldn't have done that.
That was a mistake.
I wouldn't go back on that show.
But Alex is still like, you know, trying, he still thinks that's an in for him.
So you have these Republican Congress people like, would they go to bat for him?
Are they that craven?
I want to know that.
So I do want this congressional hearing to happen because I think it would be such a
zoo and we're past the Mendoza line in terms of being a country.
Oh, no, it's not.
Why not do that?
Yeah.
Alex Jones go to Congress.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It could only hurt him.
I want to, I want him to have his Mr. Smith goes to Washington moment.
That's what I want.
I want him to blame the entire system and say that it's entirely broken and really just
go for it thinking that he will never actually be kicked out of it.
Like he's going to be like, well, the rules say that I get to talk as long as I want,
right?
That's my birthright.
He's going to turn into that guy with the Bolo tie, the sovereign citizen.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what he's going to do.
But also if they walk around and they're leaving, he's like, I control Congress now.
They've left.
I have the gavel.
They have abdicated the courtroom.
I run.
I am now vice president.
He, I would bet anything that his opening statement would be the speech from network.
Like it would just be, just glory, glory, speech, and up there, I would love that.
I know that I, my default position is always like, don't give him more attention than he
deserves unless it's in the right proper controlled context.
I believe that I believe Congress is the right proper controlled context.
Well, cause there would be so many times that like all of those people have staff, you know,
like, yeah, and they would, they could do the research required in order to get the
like, gotcha questions where it's like, Alex, you did say this, well, he'll be trapped in
his web of lies and it'd be so embarrassing.
I would love it.
Alex, we're going to, we're going to play some tapes for you.
No.
And then he runs away.
Wait.
That's not allowed there.
Treat me with kid gloves.
I can't wait for the infowars website to like go down, but he's still hosting the domain
for a while and it just has a blank page that says call Larry Nichols on it.
Oh, dude.
That'd be great.
Oh, dude.
So good.
Um, I just recently saw Larry Nichols on another web show.
Like he's, I think, I think Alex thinks that I can't talk to him.
I don't know why.
He's not on his show.
Like I haven't seen him at all, but I saw him on another show and he sounds very different
on another show.
Yeah.
Is he okay now?
No, I don't mean that way.
He still sounds like an old weirdo, but like he's, his rhetoric is very different.
I saw him on another show and he was not nearly the same.
Like they're going to take down Trump.
He was clearly doing the character or acting that way to be supplicating, supplicating to
Alex's rhetoric.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I only know from Alex's world in another context, like someone else's show and see how like,
oh, they get it.
They get it.
Yeah.
They know like, they're playing all, they're all playing the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
But you know, you know, um, you know who the enemy of the American people is.
Uh, Kevin.
CNN.
Oh, okay.
CNN.
And they're forced down your throat.
They are.
They are.
They're everywhere.
With their, with their TV network that they own and broadcast from.
They're forced down your fucking throat and have broadcasts from since the sixties.
Well, Alex might make a decent point here and let's, let's let him speak his piece.
We're number one with a three or three, one week old app and they're a joke and all their
billions of dollars and all the money they get from Gulf state dictators and communist
China and all the things they've done, people can't stand them.
They have to pay to be on an airport and pay to be on in bars.
Just really funny here.
Alex earlier in the show had talked about how he had to pay to be on the app.
So like, all right, whatever, you know, you pay to have your app listed.
Yeah.
So go fuck off with that logic and pay to be on everywhere.
Very offensive.
I was in the Trump hotel, beautiful nice hotel and the old post office there in DC a few
months ago.
And there was CNN on, on the big television over the bar, I was going to throw up.
I just can't get away from it.
It's all force fed, force fed.
You know, what's really fun about that?
There's a look in his face where he brings up the example that he has of seeing CNN somewhere
and it happens to be the Trump hotel.
So he's, he's scrambling in his mind to be like, I can't shit on the Trump hotel, right?
Because I got to love this guy and they don't take money from CNN or I better not.
Insinuate that they do, which he accidentally is doing pretty much exactly.
It's Trump's hotel.
He could play whatever the fuck he wants there.
Pretty much.
Apparently choose to CNN because it's the most palatable news, better than Fox News.
You know, it's far less inflammatory.
Yeah.
If you want some run of the mill shit, that's probably what you're going to choose.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's based on a contract, but if it is, then Trump's making money off
that pretty much.
So I love that.
That's his example that he comes up with, man.
Do better.
Do better.
Also, so bad.
Shit.
Broadcasting, bro.
Think.
Just say the gym.
Just say the gym.
Say anywhere.
You're local.
You could have said the cheesecake factory, could have, could have said a bar you're at,
could say a restaurant, anything you chose, anything, the Trump hotel, anything, the one
thing that came to his mind.
What a fucking idiot.
He's not great on the spot.
I'm not going to lie to you.
One thing where your guy could change that is your example with an email.
Yeah.
It wouldn't even take long.
No.
He could even tweet at his own hotel.
Exactly.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
No more CNN at my hotels.
Hey, stop.
Stop playing CNN at Trump Tower.
All caps.
And they would.
And they would.
And it's done.
Yeah.
Problem solved.
And he said a few months ago, so it's after Trump is already saying that they're the enemy
of the American people.
Yeah, of course.
I'm not a fucking joke.
I'm not an idiot.
People are all fucking jokes.
So one thing that's.
And so are we because of them.
One thing is not a joke, bro.
What's that?
Kevin?
Outrage in the streets.
Okay.
There's antifas out there hitting people with stuff.
Oh, antifa.
They are definitely responsible for the most recent murder of, of, of, uh, no, oh, no.
That's right.
The protests, the murders and the violence were more from the, the Nazis.
Or that, that one guy who just fired a shot into, uh, into the ether, right.
Right.
I don't know where.
Right.
Pretended he didn't.
That guy wasn't antifa.
No, no, no.
Oh, no, he wasn't antifa.
Or based stick man who's only famous because he snuck sticks into protests and hit people
with them.
Right.
Right.
Right.
That wasn't, that wasn't antifa.
Oh, oh, uh, the, the, the guys wearing riot gear who specifically targeted the anti antifa
protesters and left the white supremacists, uh, to their own devices.
They were cops.
Oh, no, they weren't antifa.
No, no, no.
They were the cops.
Oh, or all the people on the right who have now realized that they can make themselves
look like antifa people by covering their faces and stuff and have now used that as
a tactic.
Right.
In order to, of course.
Hit people with impunity.
Right.
They would be blamed upon it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All that stuff is, you know, that's a consideration, but Alex has documents.
Oh, okay.
The US Capitol ramping up security head of white nationalist rallies, one year anniversary
of Charlottesville coming up with the police corraled the alt-right people right into
the antifa.
So the explosion could happen and by Soros funding that, he's partially the blame for
the poor woman that died.
That turned into them spinning it and saying, and I said the CIA staged it and that some
photographer staged it when that's not what I said.
They just twisted that and sued me for that.
Everybody knows that in Portland and in San Francisco and in Charlottesville and in Maryland,
the police have stood down.
We even have the documents in Maryland in Baltimore where the antifa was working with
them and even had designated areas.
They were allowed to protest and engage in violence and even throw things at police as
part of an attempt to escalate the general public into rioting to bring in a civil emergency
for Obama, but the plan failed.
Or that was made up of the cops.com or search engine it 2015 plan to bring in martial law
for Obama, document show 2015 plan to bring in civil emergency and martial law in Maryland.
Read the documents for yourself and that's why they want to shut down.
I've read the documents.
These are the fake ones you found on 4chan.
You are just reporting all of this, that entire last minute and a half is all him just rambling
and expounding and expanding what he's trying to say based on those fake contracts that
we clowned on for about half an hour.
The nonsense idea that anyone would make a contract for that bullshit.
Yeah, no, of course.
Ridiculous.
You want to sign your name to that.
Ridiculous.
No, it makes perfect sense.
So fucking stupid and fake.
It's absurd.
Any right thinking person would look at them and maybe try and figure out where did these
come from?
What's the backstory of these?
Start to smell a little bit.
Oh, that smells like bullshit.
Oh, this is one of those classic internet hoaxes.
Great a bullshit.
Alex is now, I mean, he has for a long time, but he's still reporting it as truth.
He's reporting it as real that there are contracts between Soros connected organizations at Antifa
in order to create martial law.
It's not real.
It's crazy.
I mean, I don't, we've already talked about this and there's no reason to dissect it further,
but it's nice.
It's nice to know this much, you know, hear this and you're like, ah, that's what you're
talking about.
You stupid fuck.
You stupid asshole.
To address one point of what he said, which is that the cops were funneling the white
supremacists.
Right.
That's Millie Weaver's narrative.
Right.
Right.
So they're funneling them to make the explosions happen.
Right.
That then suggests that the cops know that one side is going to murder the other side
and they know which side and they, so even then what he's implying is that his people
are murderers and they were being pushed towards the Antifa specifically to commit
the crimes that they wanted to commit in the first place.
Well now Alex would argue that they would not have committed those murders if Antifa
hadn't been so goddamn annoying or something like that, like agitating them to the point
of committing a murder.
I don't know if that's still okay.
It's not, but it works.
I'm pretty sure that that's not a defense in court is like, oh, they didn't believe the
same thing I do.
It works for him.
I've watched the videos that Millie Weaver's put out and I've seen the arguments that are
made about the police intentionally corralling people.
I mean, I wasn't there, so I don't think that I have the right to make a definitive statement
or anything like that.
It would be foolish of me, but based on the evidence that I've seen, I don't buy it.
I don't buy that narrative.
I know that from everything I know about these groups, somebody would have found the other
one.
Whether it's Antifa finding the fascists and the Nazis or the Nazis finding them, it would
have ended up happening at some point and if they want a brawl, they're going to brawl.
And one side wants to murder and the other side doesn't want to murder.
One wants to stop people from doing that.
One is anti the part that murders people.
But this is where it gets all twisted with Alex and his world is that like they label
themselves as anti fascists, but that's because they're fascists.
And these people are being called fascists like the Nazis and the legitimate Nazi groups
that are there.
They're being labeled that because they're actually anti-fascism.
They're anti the fascism of the anti-fascism groups.
But it's so frustrating because that's what he does all the time.
Right.
It's a mess.
Also, the other thing that you could say, if you were going to say that, is not that
the cops were funneling them towards the Antifa in order to cause an explosion.
It's because the cops as we now know are essentially an arm of the white nationalist movement.
So maybe they were funneling them towards them.
So the cops didn't have to murder anybody and they could get them to do their dirty work
for them.
Because as we know, the cops love murdering people.
Let identity Europa be on the hook for this one instead of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No more video of cops beating up unarmed black people for no reason.
That's going to cut into our overtime.
Let's let this guy with the stupid shield do it for us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't know, in this next clip, Alex does not understand what's happening
to him and he unfortunately sort of conflates it with other issues.
This to me is like real strong evidence of just a dumb-dumb.
This is just very dumb.
Not only a CNN, a propped up, failed, anti-free speech, anti-American engine of lies that
murder the truth.
Sounds right.
They're now out murdering free speech and murdering other people's ideas and engaged
in classic racketeering like the brown shirts in Nazi Germany, working in concert to go
around to private companies and try to have us deplatformed from basic services.
But you better bake that gay cake.
Okay.
I don't get my electricity next, I guess.
Sure.
In that last couple of...
Sure.
That tracks.
In that last couple of minutes, he just disgracefully combined so many different issues like in
terms of what's going on.
The reason with the cake is because of protected classes.
That's a whole different thing.
If you want to argue against the Civil Rights Act, that is in your libertarian right to do.
Sure.
You are very welcome to do that, but you're also going to have to say that black people
should not be allowed places.
Wow.
Because if you want to get rid of protected classes, you are against the Civil Rights
Act, go for it.
That libertarians should be.
But if they want to make that argument...
My religion does not acknowledge that gay people are people.
And as I'm sure you know, there's a difference between gay people and black people because
obviously my religion has never supported the slavery.
Oh, they did, didn't they?
But it also doesn't matter what your religion necessarily believes.
No, of course not.
But the person.
But the person whose rights are either being acknowledged or violated.
So then beyond that, the idea that like, oh, now my electricity is going to be shut off.
And actually you have some liberals to thank for that.
Kind of.
You have a very progressive worldview.
Because the capitalists have shut off electricity and they have murdered people because of it.
Alex, if you get your druthers, your electricity will be shut off.
You will be in a jeopardy situation like that.
And you will freeze to death like multiple old women have in the past.
And as Alex has complained about in the past, while never wrestling with the, why is that
a problem?
Yeah.
So to me, this is so crazy because all it is is he's being punished for his behavior
in a media space and he's comparing it to the gay cake situation, which the cake wasn't
gay, but also...
It just sounds like the one thing that he said that I imagined that one thing up on
the...
By the way, those were my standup chops coming back.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect.
I imagine that being a phrase on like the Great British Bake Off is something like,
Hey, you better make that gay cake.
Well, that just means happy to them.
But the...
In fact, it means cigarette.
That's right.
Yeah.
So that conflating that with his situation and then further conflating it with the idea
of like utility monopolies, it's crazy to me.
Like it's straight up crazy.
And I know that at the beginning of the show, I said that if he gets off Twitter, he's fucked
like in terms of his ability to reach people.
But I don't think that is because he does like there is a monopoly of the public space
on Facebook and Twitter and stuff like that.
Right.
That's relevant to the question at all.
He's fucked because he needs those and he is...
He's not entitled to have them.
He needs them because of what he does.
It's not like...
He's almost making the argument that they're a public utility and they should be regulated.
He does make that argument.
But then what is he doing?
What do you mean?
How is he able to then say that they should be regulated?
His entire position is if it even...
No, we've talked about that before.
He hates monopolies and stuff like that.
So he believes that they have a monopoly over the public space and public discourse.
Sure.
But regulation, he hates regulation in terms of like don't tell farmers what to do or
whatever.
But he doesn't mind regulation in terms of monopoly capitalism.
So it is a weird line to draw, but it does bear mentioning.
The only reason I bring this up is because even that said, which I agree with him, monopolies
are terrible.
I don't think they have a monopoly.
We've had that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've had this discussion over and over again.
And if you do...
We have come to rapprochement with it.
If you do believe that good for you, that's your business.
That means something about you.
That is not about Twitter or Facebook.
You don't have either, really.
No, I got rid of them.
I have...
Like, I'm on Facebook only for the group.
They'll go home and tell your mother, you're brilliant.
And if I disappeared from that, that would still exist and it would beat whatever.
But it doesn't help that much.
I haven't posted on Facebook in...
Maybe a year.
Yeah.
Maybe a year I haven't posted on Facebook.
I haven't looked at anybody else's posts.
What'd you post on Facebook?
I think the last time we had a live show in Chicago, I posted that.
Oh, okay.
The live show in Texas.
So that was a couple of years ago, or a couple of months ago.
I think I might have posted something like, hey, if you're in Texas, but even that, I'm
like, ain't people will see this?
It gives a shit.
I haven't posted on our Twitter or my Twitter in for fucking ever.
We haven't reached anybody with that stuff.
You're like, I don't think you need it necessarily.
You do something and people like it or they don't.
If it works for us, it would work for Alex.
Hard numbers are going very high up.
We're on equal playing field at this point, right?
We have podcasts.
Yeah.
Yes.
We're both tied except we still have YouTube videos up.
That's true.
They're old, but they're up.
It's punching upward still for us to attack Alex.
For a period of time and it's slowly punching on a level playing field.
So all that stuff about regulation aside.
I don't know if we, did we get to the bottom of that?
Well, what was the bottom of that?
Well, the only thing I'm sort of concerned about is I feel like you were a little confused
that Alex would be for utility monopolies.
Yes.
Yeah.
No, we got to the bottom of that.
Okay.
Yeah.
So in this next clip, we enter a period of this show that I think is profoundly fucked
up and dangerous.
I'll just say it.
I think this is dangerous.
Burn down cheesecake factories.
He loves cheesecake factories.
Not if there are Muslims in there.
You don't lose the factory for the muslims.
Don't lose the baby with the bathwater as they say.
No, it's worse than that.
And we'll get into it in this next clip.
And here's the big enchilada.
When we come back, I'm going to say that I should have started the show with this.
This is the big, big, big issue that hit me so hard last week and hit me again this morning
when I was really cogitating and thinking.
Word of a day calendar.
Bees.
Cogitating.
Cogitating.
Thinking deeply about this.
They're going to make their move on Trump the next three months.
They're making their move on free speech now.
This is unprecedented.
They've been making their move on.
Criminality that we're witnessing.
And that signifies that they are getting ready to make their move in a big way.
Now, some of the things you can do to counter them in full wars.com.
Nice.
Nice.
All right.
Nice.
Some of the things you can do to counter them.
Nice.
Nice.
All right.
Nice.
Some of the things you can counter them by our products and then they won't make their
move on Trump.
I'll be honest.
I think, I think that there's still some fun stuff to discuss in this, but like just
like a, my response to Alex, since he's been kicked off the air is like a sleepy jackoff
motion.
Just kind of like, who cares?
I know what you're doing here.
You son of a bitch.
Come on.
This is ridiculous.
Come on.
I know you're just trying to find your way to make people outraged and agitated while
you cogitate ways to agitate minus one.
Let me get away with that.
I was, I was really, I was on the fence for a little bit and then I just pulled the trigger.
It's all just weaving to a plug.
And now like the ad pivots are so much more robust because getting people to info wars.com
is so much more important.
Oh yeah.
When he says that, like they're going to take out the president in the next three months,
that like him just saying info wars.com, that's the equivalent of back in the day when he'd
be like, we got great supplement.
Yeah.
Because he needs people to go to info wars.com.
Absolutely.
They've got nowhere else to go.
Yeah.
You can't go to, can you share, you can share info wars articles on Facebook.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can do that.
He just can't have his own stuff.
Right.
And you can post their videos on YouTube.
If you do it sneaky, there's still tons of stuff you can find.
But man, it is a, it is a huge loss for me.
Not so much the Alex Jones channel, but that Ron Gibson channel is a huge loss for me.
I wonder how he's doing.
I hope he's okay.
But the reason is because he would put out them without the commercials.
Yeah.
It was so much less painful to go through this when the commercials were cut out because
in present day, there's no diamond gusset.
There's no.
No.
I can't remember.
Damn it.
Can't remember who it was.
Someone posted a picture on the Facebook group of somebody actually wearing diamond
gusset jeans.
He saw someone in the wild in a diamond gusset.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
I like that.
Yep.
Pretty cool.
But there weren't, there's no ads like that now.
It's all just like Alex propaganda pieces, like little tiny minute long clips, take
it like.
They're coming for Trump by our stuff.
But also the, they find the times that Trump uses English properly and like really cut
those segments out.
That just takes a lot of editing.
Yeah.
But you can do it if you, if you're that motivated.
And so they do, they do that.
You know, it is what it is, but it's fucking awful.
And then also the special reports are really hard to find now.
Whereas Ron.
Oh yeah.
They must have been the special reports or Alex would post them on his channel.
Right.
Now I don't even know where to the fuck to find any of that.
Because he doesn't put them on info wars.com, which is.
Well, we might, but they're all labeled January 1st, 1970.
So I don't know what the fuck to do with any of that.
I can't find out what happened on January 1st, 1970.
I might have to, I might have to jump into that.
How does he not, how does he not have a guy who knows what a podcast is?
Well, I think Kurt Nemo was like one of his web guys and then he went a couple of years
ago, right?
Of course.
A year and a half ago or so.
So I think he might.
And he can't ask his dad because his dad is head of HR.
That'd be, you can't wear two hats.
Yeah.
No.
But then I think that he probably has a real brain trust problem.
You know, I think that.
I can't imagine why.
Well, I think that even if you're like, if you're talented in a technical field, you
probably wouldn't choose to work for him.
Even if the salary is okay, you probably be like, yeah, I'll go somewhere else.
I can get a little less working somewhere else and not work with you.
And he can't like lean on one of his listeners to be like an intern or something like that.
Cause they don't know how to do any of that shit.
Which is why the podcast is going to fail miserably.
Because again, his listeners are dumb.
They're mostly up to true believers and then hoping some of them are talented and will
accept whatever salary you may pay them.
And that's, I mean, that's a bad business model, but enjoy.
Yeah.
Anyway, good luck.
Earlier, I told you, Jordan, that info wars is on Twitter still for one reason and one
reason only that Alex says.
I'm not sure if this is true, but this is what he says.
You know why info wars is still on Twitter that banned everywhere else by Apple, by Google,
by Facebook, by Spotify, by Stitcher, named some more by webchimp, by discussion, they
even have the Democrats going after our servers trying to file false reports on those to get
our servers taken down.
We can go.
That's fucking hilarious.
He doesn't own his own servers.
This is crazy.
He doesn't own his own servers.
He wouldn't be worried.
He wouldn't be worried.
I think he's trying to say that they're like, are they trying to, oh, he's not saying that
they're trying to hack his servers.
No, he's saying that they want us to be taken down from our servers.
That implies very heavily that he's vulnerable there.
Yeah.
If you don't own your own servers, Alex, you are a fucking idiot.
Who owns the servers?
I don't know.
We got to find out.
Yeah.
I, you know, probably someone's figured it out and sent some emails.
I don't know.
Maybe it is fine.
Go daddy.
Who knows?
That'd be hilarious.
That's what's happening in America right now.
The only reason we're still on Twitter is because of this tweet from the president,
Twitter, shadow banning prominent Republicans.
Not good.
We will look into this discriminatory legal practice at once.
Many complaints.
I have a number of thoughts about this, but it's disappointing that that's the president.
That was one of them.
Yeah.
It was lower on my list, though, than my other thoughts.
What's that?
Is that like, uh, if, like all these other places, Alex says was engaging in the exact
same behavior places like Facebook, and he's kicked off that, uh, there's no consequences
from the president.
That's common sense.
Now, Twitter clearly should get the message that it doesn't really matter that much.
He, Facebook hasn't had some sort of punitive thing from the president happen.
We're probably in the clear.
Then the second thing, which I think is maybe the biggest issue of them all is the idea
that Alex is pitching that the only reason he's still on Twitter is because of the president
of the United States threatened them with a conspiracy theory that he believes in.
Now, the conspiracy part, we'll leave that aside for a second.
What's fascism, Jordan?
Dan, I don't know anymore.
One of the big definitions is a combination of corporate and state power.
So the idea that Twitter is cowtowing to a threat from the president to do something
that they should fucking do, which Alex is almost kind of tacitly admitting there.
It's like, well, otherwise we would fucking be gone for, for giving some sort of weird
threat on the platform about this shadow band conspiracy that's a whole load of horse shit.
Then like that is Alex saying that we are, the case is cool, man.
This is cool.
I love the idea of corporations bending to the will of the executive.
That's not good.
Patriots.
There's no way.
Patriot fascism is fine, Dan.
There's no way to splice that clip that makes it okay.
Nope.
That is so bad.
And it would be bad too if like it was a democratic president.
It would be bad at any circumstance.
Yeah.
It's probably not good.
It's probably not good for the president to make threats to a business and then force
them to do things that he wants.
My theory is that the reason that he is not kicked off Twitter is because of Trump.
But not, not because of like anything that Trump interceding.
No, not because of that, but because if they kick Alex Jones off for violating their whatever
policy, then people are going to be like, okay, so you did that.
You know, the, the president has violated your policies many, many times.
And this is what I've been saying since the jump in terms of like the, I support Alex
staying on things and even stuff he got kicked off of.
I'm not saying I support it.
I'm glad he's gone.
But like in terms of what I would advocate for, I would say it's easier to leave him
on and deal with him a different way than it is to kick him off and then have to abide
by those rules because you're right.
The president is way out of line by the rules just from the threatening world leaders standpoint.
Right.
Yeah.
We're, we're in a better place if Trump gets kicked off Twitter.
Well, maybe not.
Cause that might force his hand and actually hit a button or something.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
You put yourself in a position with as a social media operation where you do this.
Now you have an expectation that you should live up to it.
I think that might be what Jack is doing.
He's doing it terribly.
It's awful.
But I think that might be better.
I don't, I haven't heard this.
What to have rules and then pretend that they, to pretend that you have rules and then never
enforce them.
I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's purely, it's purely like an advertising thing.
No.
Well, you should, they, I mean, that's pretty clear, but you should also maybe just be straight
up about it because you are like, it's a private company.
They'd be totally in their rights to do this.
Yeah.
We will judge based on who matters.
Right.
They could put that into the rules and it would be okay for them to do that.
They could say, Hey, some people, they say fucked up stuff, but we can't kick them off.
That's just part of the rules.
That would be fine.
That's a weird rule.
That's a weird, that is, that is a little bit, that is a little bit like my idea for the
constitution where we add dot, dot, dot, except Nazis to everything though.
Well, but he would be the same thing like everyone's speech.
We will judge it.
Dot, dot, dot, except Nazis.
Yeah, exactly.
But like that to me is that, that I think, I think that there's probably more to this
than I'm even like getting into.
I think a lot of it is cowardly damage control.
You know, like there's a lot of, you see over and over and over again, people who have like
tried to report people for threatening violence against them and like, this is not against
our policies.
And we've seen over and over again, people who made jokes who are kicked off Twitter
for a week.
And generally speaking, it's threats against women aren't taken seriously and women making
jokes get them kicked off.
Yeah.
So strange how that works.
Right.
So that's a whole other issue.
That's a side issue that has nothing to do with Alex, that I would love to talk about
more another day.
Yeah.
But like in terms of this, the real solution is just fucking be straight up about your
rules.
Just make your rules.
If you are making us a lot of money, we don't care what you say.
Right.
If you're someone who's using this service for free, we might have to cut liability.
You know, you might be a danger to our profit margin and we're going to kick you off.
Right.
Which is fine.
Which is of course why they leave Trump and Alex Jones and shit on is because every time
those, those media matters are CNN quote the, the president, they're always like the president
tweeted and Twitter's like, fuck yeah, we get another free advertising marketing every
single time.
The president is tweeting.
That's how he's communicating.
Everybody needs to be on Twitter.
Otherwise they're not going to know that.
You get rid of a lot of those people too, especially Trump, like you diminish the effect to which
Twitter is changing the world too and shaping the world through the platform.
Exactly.
And I don't think that they want to get rid of that.
I think they should.
I think it's dangerous.
I think it's negative, but it's also they're right to keep it.
Right.
They're evil.
They're a corporation, but Monsanto is apparently still allowed to exist.
So there we go.
Right.
You come into this weird place where it's like, if you don't want to like really just
have the conversation about how everything, but not everything, but a lot of shit should
be regulated, then it's pointless.
Yeah.
Why would he, why struggle against it?
And Alex, why struggle in the position you're in?
You're stupid.
He is stupid.
There's really no, there's no bones about it.
This is dumb.
And this isn't even the, this isn't even the right way to go about his, his situation here.
As you were saying, if you put together something that people want to listen to, people will
listen to it.
People will find it.
And they will share it.
I know, I know it's not a magical equation.
He's making bad episodes.
Bad.
Like that's, this is, this is when you've got to step up your game.
This is when you've got to make your show fucking appointment listening.
But I think a lot of his regulars probably don't want to come on anymore because he's
off all the networks and it's not nearly as big a platform for them to go on.
That's true.
So I think that there's some people who might be jumping ship.
It's possible.
I don't know.
I don't know that to be sure, but I know that he has, as one of his guests, a hero
of Benghazi on, and it's not Tonto Speranto.
All right.
It's a different hero of Benghazi.
All right.
All right.
For years, we've only had Tonto as the hero of Benghazi.
So we've got another guy now, I guess, a fill in Tonto Speranto.
But I just think that you can't do appointment television with the, like what he has at his
disposal.
He's got him, though, and he's got to remember that he made this what it is by being him,
man.
He's got, he's had shit guests.
He's got to shave and come to Jesus.
Yeah.
Those are the two things he needs to do.
Exactly.
He needs to have his like Jonah in the whale moment and he needs to shave that beard.
Those are the two things because the beard is terrible.
I don't know if you ever read this article, but there was a back in like maybe 2010,
2011, somewhere around there.
There was a guy who was trying to sell like his tractor.
Sure.
And the tractor deal went bad.
I do wait.
I remember the guy trying to sell his tractor.
What happened to the deal?
Well, the deal deal, I don't remember exactly what happened, but it went bad.
And then these dudes who he was selling tractor to held him down, shaved his beard
and made him eat it.
And I want to, I did not know that.
I want to do that to Alex.
I did not know that I want to make him eat his beard.
You want to make him eat his beard?
Yeah.
All right.
I would never have that thought if it weren't for this tractor deal that went bad years ago.
I want him to make it.
I, okay.
There's a great video of this guy.
He's like, they held me down and made me eat my beard.
I mean, it's terrible.
That's tragedy.
It's awful.
I don't wish that on anybody.
I doubt it is definitely a crime, but as far as crimes go, that was pretty hilarious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I would do that to Alex in a second.
Oh, I would make other people eat other people's beards.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know what I think about that, but I do think beyond that he needs to have
like some sort of, I don't know how you do it.
I mean, where are we?
August.
There's no good holidays coming up.
I mean, maybe we wait till October.
Easter sale.
No, I'm just trying to think of like, if Christmas was coming up, that'd be great.
Cause then he could have the ghost of Alex past come and visit him or something like that.
Oh, you're talking about bits.
No, I'm not saying as a bit, but like he could experience it.
Like maybe he does some mushrooms or something and watches a clip of himself
from 15 years ago or something like that.
It remembers like what he used to do.
It's still, you can keep the bigotry, but you can do it differently.
Yeah.
And you can, you can not be kicked off things.
Like, yeah, the reason you're kicked off stuff is because of slandering people because
of the threats that you've introduced to people's lives with your lies.
You, you walk that line for years, baby, you can do it again.
Get back to it.
So you're, you're asking for the third act of, uh, uh, of his life in the movie of
his life, you're either asking for the beginning of the third act where he has
that moment or the beginning of Mighty Ducks where that's the start of the movie.
This is an Alex Jones.
This is a fire in a barrel.
This is an Alex Jones in a fire in a barrel.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what I'm asking for.
I'm not asking for shit.
I'm just saying that like as far as someone who takes in as much Alex Jones as I do,
I don't see the future going well unless he gets rid of the beard and has a crisis.
And it can't be a crisis of like everyone's trying to kill Trump like he's
pitching here.
That's not good.
No, that's a, that's a current crisis.
It has to be self-realization.
It needs to be existential in nature.
Like he needs to get back to the, the roots to some extent where he was.
I mean, the yelling isn't even fun anymore.
Like the yelling in the past was kind of fun.
Like he'd never do three minutes of Silver Stallion in 2018.
It was, that is why he became the show he became is because of those things where
there's, there's humanizing, there's fun moments, there's yelling, there's lies,
there's bigotry.
There's all of that.
There's conspiracies.
Everything comes together in a bouillabaisse that is appealing, but the individual
ingredients maybe aren't great, but now he just has rotten food that's put into
this stew and he's trying to sell it the same way.
Yeah.
And it just doesn't work.
It is interesting that when we did our, yeah, being sold by a worse waiter.
So the waiter is, the waiter is even worse.
Yeah.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
All right.
It is, it is interesting that we, in our 2015 investigation, fucking nailed it.
Like the, the thing that we continued talking about is why is he hitching his
wagon and it worked out perfectly in the short term and it's ended his career in
the long term, which is pretty much what we said.
Yep.
Like that's what we posited would happen and low and behold, it came to pass.
And I think if we can, we cogitated that it may happen.
Certainly.
Yes.
And I think as we go further into the 2009 stuff, which is, you know, that's
indefinite, we can just keep going over that and digging up the truth there in
perpetuity, but like, I think we're going to find even more like where it went wrong,
wrong.
Yeah.
You know, like I don't think, I don't think that the, I think the Trump is the
like last thing that ruined his career.
Yeah.
I think there's much more before it that we're not taking into consideration.
Right.
If only because for one thing, we don't know when he starts talking about George
Soros and that's not to say talking about George Soros ruins your career.
It's just that that means something in terms of his narratives.
Yes.
They've taken a change.
Yeah.
Secondarily, we don't know when that meeting with the Russians was with the
RT interview.
Those two things, if we can find those, I think we'll find much more of like this
is the definitive story of how he ruined his career over the course of a couple
of decades.
But anyway, currently he wants to talk more about how everyone thinks that he's
fucking a piece of shit because of what he said about Parkland.
He's fucking a piece of shit.
He's a fucking piece of shit about what he said about Parkland.
And the reason that he's doing this is because most of the attacks that are
saying he should be kicked off of Twitter have to do with things he said
about David Hogg Parkland, which he did say he did.
He's getting very defensive about that.
He's he's going to create some straw men.
And then at the same time, he's going to lie.
The problem is, is they let Democrats be as violent and threatening and out of
control as they want.
As long as there's a problem, they take us questioning David Hogg, who's in three
different videos saying I was at home when the shooting started.
I rode my bike and then the shooting was over by then and then him saying he was
in the school while the shooting's happening.
And I've got those videos.
And then he was there when it started.
I mean, I've got all the news reports right here.
I've already moved past that.
I'm not saying the school shooting didn't happen.
Play them play those videos, but you can go to Jamie White's article update
confusion over where David Hogg was during school shooting.
Three different videos of him saying three different things.
Play them down a free country.
I'm allowed to point this out.
If David Hogg thinks that's defamatory, his words, he can sue me.
He can win in court.
So are a lot of other people right now.
Don't give him ideas because he could.
And the reason is this, and Alex is kind of embodying it even in that clip right
there, the videos that he's talking about don't have David Hogg saying, I wasn't
at the school.
They're talking about that evening.
We've talked about this already, this intentional misunderstanding that's
happened because of edited video clips.
Yep.
There's an interview that he gave where he's talking about how in the evening
he went back to his house, got his camera and came back to the school or,
or whatever, he got on his bike and came back to try and get some footage.
That is nothing to do with where he was when the shooting happened.
It doesn't screw up the timeline in any way.
Right.
It is just this is literally intentionally misrepresenting something
because all that information is very publicly available.
If you watch the entire interview that that selected clip is taken from where
it's like, I came back to the school, right?
If you watch the rest of it, it's very clear.
That either means that Alex has never watched the entire clip and has only
seen the short versions that imply that he wasn't at the school or that he has
seen it and he's intentionally lying about it.
Either way, the way he's behaving here probably could get him another lawsuit.
And there's precedent too.
Project Veritas got sued successfully multiple times.
So you, David Hogg, sue him.
Well, I mean, I don't, I don't know what to say, man.
It's just he's, he's embodying why he's a bad journalist.
Like this is, this is why you need to know a modicum of what you're talking about.
I want him to do better than this.
It's bad.
I think it's a weird place to be in.
It's worse though, man.
It gets worse.
Like this show is like, you'll, you'll kind of understand, I think, why I ended
up turning this off because it, like there's so much just, you know, yelling
about the Antifa contracts.
I didn't lie about David Hogg, all this stuff.
It's like, you're getting defensive as shit.
This is boring.
You're a boring person now.
You're shit to look at.
And just like, I don't, I don't want to watch this, but that would all be fine.
I have a massive tolerance for even his most boring of work.
But it just gets to the point where it's like boring plus.
I'm getting ahead of myself.
Let's play this next clip because the last thing he says about David
Hogg, um, and I think it's bad, but it's amazing to see CNN running around
saying shut Alex Jones off down on Twitter.
He says David Hogg is a crisis actor.
He says David Hogg wasn't there during the shooting.
He says no shooting happened.
I said no such thing.
I said, he's in the drama club.
Out of a third, out of 3000 students, four of them get picked who are already
anti gun, who've already given anti gun speeches to be the spokesperson for
all the other kids.
And then all the other young people don't get to go on the news and
sell their point of view.
And then David Hogg leads huge rallies all over the country, calls me a con
artist, says I'm a snake, all salesman, and I politely respond back to him.
And then they say, I'm beating up on some young person.
I'm a bully.
What's your definition of hog is in a man's world out there blaming gun owners
for what happened?
And it's all back again.
See.
And they keep running the headlines.
Jones says nobody died at Parkland.
Joe, you, they cannot find the video.
They cannot find the audio with Sandy Hook because I used to play devil's advocate.
What?
Because I was looking at all the angles, having people on for debates,
looking at anomalies saying I can see how it totally happened.
You know, all these parents are very credible.
I can, I would say the other, they take that out and sue me for that.
Obviously that's protected under the first amendment, but now the Democrats
are all over the news saying we want to get rid of New York times versus
Sullivan, the defense, the free speech.
We want to basically repeal the first amendment.
Snooze, snooze, snooze.
One more time.
How do you repeal an amendment?
You have to, oh man, it's a cumbersome process.
You have to basically get a whole new amendment.
Right.
To the constitution.
So you have to go through, uh, three quarters, the state's ratify it.
Right.
Let's get two thirds in the state houses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a mess.
Yeah.
That's a, that's a tough thing to do.
Congress and, uh, like each house of Congress has to vote it through with
like a three quarters, uh, right.
Yeah.
It's a mess.
We did however agree that if you nuke the first amendment, it will also go away.
That's the only one.
No, that's the only way to kill it.
It won't go away.
Oh, okay.
It won't go away as a ghost.
It'll live on a ghost.
Two amendments live on as ghosts.
It's corporeal form will go away.
Like force ghosts, like, uh, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Indeed.
That's what we're talking about.
Okay.
Which also, by the way, one of Alex's new commercials is Star, uh, Star
Wars based, um, and it is that, uh, seen with, uh, Darth Vader and Obi-Wan Kenobi
and Alex, of course, Obi-Wan doing the, if you strike me down, I'll become so
naturally, of course, of course.
Um, and then so he gets struck down and then you see a shot of the, uh, the
Millennium Falcon and it's like, our app is number one on I do.
It's so fun.
That's great.
It's, that's great.
God, it's stupid.
That's great.
It's so stupid.
But the only thing I want to really say about that last clip is that I, this is
why people who don't really deal with Alex should not talk about it.
Yeah.
And I know everyone wants to talk about them and shit, but if you don't know
much about him, you would probably believe that he said that no one died at
Parkland because he did say that about Sandy Hook.
Yes.
So you would think, yeah, it's believable that he'd say that.
So you might tweet that out or something like that.
You would say these sorts of things that are like, there's nuance to what he
was lying about.
And if you just come in with that sort of like broad haymaker, what you're
doing is allowing him to have something fake to respond to.
Yeah.
And I've definitely seen that with people who should know better.
Yeah, I'll just say that.
Yeah.
There are people who definitely should know better and getting like a lot of
the tweet action off of saying things that aren't true about Alex, but they're
real close.
And if they just knew a little better, knew what he actually has said, they
could do a better job, but in the meantime, they should probably stop.
You can get a lot of points online, I think, from being like, Hey, Alex
Jones is a piece of shit.
He said no one died at blah, blah, blah Parkland.
And good for you.
Enjoy it.
Enjoy those tweets, enjoy those retweets and stuff.
And the, the, you know, more engagement, but all you're doing is helping him.
People do it for the gram though, Dan.
What for the gram Instagram?
Yeah.
Ah, man.
Got to, you got to get those numbers up.
It doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Man.
Doesn't matter if you research.
Got a gram more.
Hmm.
Do we?
No, probably not.
We're not good at any of that.
No.
No, I, I, we are, we are not a brand.
We're bad at branding.
Totally.
No, we're just like a show.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Yeah.
Um, so now we get back to Alex being, uh, really into pushing fear.
Um, and this, this to me seems like what he really wants to talk about.
He already has said that they're going to take out Trump in the next three months.
Right.
Which he has been saying for the past 15, but two years.
Yeah.
Um, but beyond that, uh, he's got some real fear narratives here.
And I think this is where he realizes he can make hay.
And this is the only thing he can do.
So I said, they're going to shut everybody down ahead of the midterms.
They know they're losing their panicking.
But they've also said they're going to have low intensity warfare.
They're not going to just burn trash cans and knocks the windows out.
They have said that they're going to start killing cops.
This is what the antifa internal leaks are.
They're going to start hitting some Republican Congress,
spend like they've already done at the baseball field.
They're going to shoot their Republican neighbors, city council members.
They are all just being told through the ether, like an al-Qaeda type situation.
When there's no cells, they just put out the, the order and then.
People that are adherents out there through the web, they carry it out.
And all of that is being amplified.
All of that is being pushed.
All of that is being hammered.
So that's, I mean, that's pretty harsh.
That's pretty, that's, that's scary as shit.
If you believe he's not lying, which he is.
Um, the idea that antifa is just going to go out now, they're going to shoot cops.
Now they're just going to come around and fucking start, maybe not doing
fires and barrels, but they're going to start shooting people.
Yeah.
So that's the first piece of this.
Now it gets worse on this next clip.
He's going to build this fear up even further.
They're going to try, I believe in October history mirrors itself.
And it generally comes in late September into early mid October.
He's referencing just a couple of stock market crashes, not many of them.
They're going to try a stock market, market crash.
And with civil unrest, with an October, October is a big month for him historically.
October of rage, October of rage.
I just can't believe the globalists are siding with the chai comms in Hollywood
is doing this and that all these crazy people don't want America to come back.
I mean, everybody's been serving the globalist kind of half ass.
You didn't know what you were doing.
You really should be joining the American team right now.
Cause we finally got a real president.
The country's coming back.
And this is crazy what you're doing because if they're able to plunge
the stock market and bring in civil unrest, bad, bad enough to remove Trump,
they're going to go for broke and they're going to activate all sorts of sleeper
cells. They're working with Iran.
We know the left's working with Iran.
They've got real sleeper cells, not like the fake al-Qaeda ones.
They're going to start doing all sorts of nasty stuff.
I would want to be in an apartment building.
I'll tell you that.
So I live in a house plan.
They're going to put up chlorine gas down your airconditioners about eight o'clock
at night.
So when everybody's sitting around to have dinner show, I mean, you imagine
the panic when you got 5,000 people building an hour.
I mean, they are ready.
They are lined up.
They are.
This is a little, this is how wars begin.
And they think they're taking America down right now.
That's pretty fucking extreme.
That's a bit aggressive.
That's pretty, pretty serious in terms of the, I'm trying to scare you.
Hey, guys, I'm really trying to scare you.
They are going to, uh, what?
Stand on top of your place and pour chlorine down your chimney.
Is that kind of what he's suggesting there?
I would assume so because it's not like, I mean, I have a window AC unit.
Out from outside, you could dump something in it.
But like, if there's central air, that's not going to work.
No, you have to get inside.
You have to do the whole day scraper.
Right.
The movie with the rock.
Yeah, that's true.
Which we kind of watched, which we, we watched like 20 minutes of is great.
And Debs, he did not find, it was not on mute.
It just didn't have any sound spoiler alert.
Jordan downloaded a copy of Debs.
Don't, don't incriminate me.
No, it was from a reputable source, but it didn't have audio.
It had only the soundtrack, not the audio.
Yeah.
It's a disaster.
It was a disaster.
It's a great movie.
It was not a great movie.
Fine movie.
Even without sound.
I knew what it would be like with sound.
It's good stuff.
Anyway, and the rock never fought that fucking skyscraper.
No, I left about 40 minutes into the movie because I was, I had to get home.
He didn't even punch the wall one time.
Did he, did he make it?
Uh, yeah, he made it.
Of course he made it.
He's the fucking rock.
Cool.
He even grew his foot back.
I was very, that's how great the rock is in movies.
He lost his foot and then he grew it back at the end of the movie.
Is this stem cell propaganda?
Exactly.
Oh my God.
The globalists.
He actually took part of the skyscraper and made it his way.
Little did you know that skyscraper, the movie was a globalist propaganda.
Oh, for tall buildings or for stem cells.
I got you, I got you.
He was unvaccinated though.
So they're, they're like 50, 50 on the, on the scale.
What do you think about the fear that Alex is pushing right now?
Well, how do you feel it?
Um, like, do you feel like it's more extreme
than general?
Do you feel like it's, uh, on par?
You know, I, I feel like it's, it's too extreme for him.
Kind of.
It's parody.
Yeah.
Because no one, even his people aren't going to believe that they're
going to follow you home and then put chlorine in your air.
Iranian sleeper cells.
At eight.
Why at eight?
Do it when everybody's asleep or do it during the work day before they get home.
Also, if this all is happening in October, most people's AC is going to be off.
Um, that's when their heat kicks in now.
Right.
You can still get them all.
You can get them left and right.
I put it in the furnace, put it in the, yeah, absolutely.
Right.
Or, or again, chimneys.
I, everybody knows Santa situation.
Everybody knows that Iranian sleeper cells operate under chimney sweep laws, uh,
from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Chim Chimini, Chim Chimini, Chim Chim Ch- Chlorine gas.
There you go.
That's a great song.
Dick Van Dyke was trying to tell us something years ago.
So he, I, I'm from Iran.
So there's a lot of fear going on here.
And it's a lot of bullshit, but it gets even worse.
I didn't like, I stopped at this in the middle to enjoy how bad it is.
It gets even worse.
Everybody better get maximum engaged politically, but also spend some of your
time, I'd say 80% engage politically 20% of the time.
They start killing political leaders and.
By the way, he does not say what you should do 20% of the time.
He just gets into his negative.
So 20% of the time when they start killing political leaders, I put, I'm
pulling the clip back a little bit, but just to make it clear that I'm not like
cutting, like chopping a screw in this or anything, but like, he never says what
you should do with that 20% of the time.
It's implied that it's probably get a gun and get ready.
Engage politically 20% of the time they start killing political leaders and
patriots, if you're a political leader or a patriot in your area, and you
don't even think yourself as a leader, you're on a list.
They've got leftists coming to your house to kill you when they, when they,
when they initiate this, this, this, this operation, if they really go for
Trump, everybody else, they're not going to just take Trump out.
They're going to go after Ron Paul, Senator Paul.
They're going to go after me.
They're going to go after you.
They're going to go after judges.
They're going to go out to the Supreme court.
They're going to, let me tell you, they might set a nuke off in Congress.
There is no link.
They won't go.
This is world war four.
The cold war was world war three, according to the CIA.
And I agree with that.
This is world war four.
This is it.
Does everybody better decide which side they're on in 30 seconds of
plugging?
We're running.
Stop the bully's censorship.
Stop the take down of the internet specialist.
Fight the bully.
Save the internet.
Save him for war.
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Wow.
Oh, wow.
I, I, my neck was just broken.
Wow.
New Congress.
It's world war four.
Pick your side.
It's already begun.
You're going to need some iodine.
I'm going to do 30 seconds of plug.
You're going to need some iodine.
So embarrassing.
World war four.
So embarrassing.
And that all, I mean, that's all like from the same segment.
I just cut out parts that were like kind of like him meandering and stuff.
Well, like he starts with this, you know, they're going to kill cops.
Antifa is coming to kill cops and then gets into the stock market.
It's going to crash in October.
It's everything is going to go down.
They're going to put chlorine in your air system.
And then they're going to, leftists are going to show up to fucking murder all
Patriots.
Yep.
They're going to show up at your door to murder you now at 30 seconds of specials.
We do knock politely though.
That is one thing about leftists that will, when we do start murdering all of
the Patriots, I are one of our big rules.
It's in the bylaws of the leftists.
Yeah.
Knock politely.
Absolutely.
And what, what are we?
Are we them?
No, no.
The, the, the, I love the idea that he's doing the stand up to bullies special
or whatever.
And he's like, David, dogs in a man's world.
Now I'm going to lie about him.
Like just fucking stop.
This is so, this is lame, man.
And I don't, I don't feel the same way about like listening to the 2000
episodes, the 2009 episodes that I were not covering yet that are just boring.
Like I don't feel that way about them.
I don't feel like, just go, go to bed, go to bed.
I don't feel that way about it.
I feel like, eh, you'll do better tomorrow.
You know, like you'll do a better job tomorrow to me in the present.
I'm just like, go to bed.
Alex, this is, this is fucking lame.
Yeah.
We, he needs to do, and I've texted you about this.
He needs to just stop and let Paul Joseph Watson be in charge.
He needs to get away from it.
Let Paul Joseph Watson take over info wars and let him be the guy
from behind the scenes, controlling stuff.
Never going to do it.
But that's the way Alex isn't in it.
Alex cannot be behind the scenes.
But he's a narcissist.
He has to have all the attention.
I understand that.
But if he wants to continue the standard of living that he has and the operation,
then he needs to give it to Paul Joseph Watson.
None of these other dudes can handle that.
Owen Schroeder sucks.
David Knight's boring as hell.
Paul sucks also, but he's much more popular.
He could do it.
If Alex wants to survive at the end of the day, based on what I've seen
in the week since he's been kicked off all this stuff, he can't do it himself.
He's too self-involved.
Like all this is so much, it's so petty.
It's personal.
It's too much.
He needs to step away from it.
And unfortunately, that's literally the only thing he can't do.
Yeah.
He, because of what you're saying, he's a narcissist.
He needs to be in control of it.
Yeah.
I mean, and, and think about how easy it is, easy it is for disgraced
white men to have a redemption arc.
Sure.
Look at the hardwicks back on the nerves.
Yeah, exactly.
Louis CK is probably going to have another TV show next year or whatever it is.
Everybody loves.
He's going to have a special.
And how about how funny it is to masturbate at people?
Everybody, everybody loves it.
Whenever a white man says, I'm sorry.
And then continues doing the same shit that he was doing before.
That's, that's 98% of America's story.
Sure.
That's what it is.
So just fucking go away for a little bit.
Lilo.
Wow.
Paul Joseph Watson runs everything.
Right.
Then you're going to make a courageous comeback.
Whenever Paul Joseph Watson wears out his welcome because everybody's like,
this Ponce is bullshit.
Without editing, he stinks.
And Alex shaves his beard.
Yeah, he's got to shave hard to the comeback.
You're really on that beard thing.
It's really bad.
You really don't like that beard.
It just sucks.
It just sucks.
It's an affront to you personally as your beard is magnificent.
Well, it's one of those things like he has good coverage.
It's not like he's missing parts of it or anything.
It's not patchy.
Like some people have like a line on the cheek where it's like, oh,
there's just a line doesn't come in there.
Right.
All right.
He has enough there, but it's just bad.
It just looks bad.
It doesn't fit his face.
Does he need to like style it in some way?
No, because it's not long enough yet.
Like it, it should be.
He's clearly trimming it is the thing.
Oh, he is.
So he's purposefully making it look this bad.
It's been months.
Like if he has that much beard now from like a couple of months of growth,
I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
Yeah.
I then I think that his testosterone boosting supplements may not be working.
I suggest to Alex, if you are listening, there is a brilliant comedian in Chicago,
friend of the show, Mike Wiley, go that route, go that route.
Tiny little Ian Scott anthrax beard.
Do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
That'll be a crazy look on that would be a crazy look.
And I would be in his corner forever.
If he just bought one of the reasons it works so well for Wiley though, too,
is that his body is most like it's pretty svelte.
Yes.
He's a, he's a pretty in shape guy.
Yeah.
And his head is, his head is longer than fatter and Alex has a fat head.
Okay.
I don't think it, I don't think that works on how do you feel about giant sideburns?
Love them.
I would, I would say, let's give them a chop, stash, chop, stash.
Yes.
Exactly.
Burn sideburns into a mustache.
You just shaved the chin.
Yes.
It's aggressive.
It's perfect for Alex.
It goes back to the lineage of Ambrose burn sides.
To whom you love.
Yes.
Uh, be great.
I don't know.
You got to do something though.
Anyway, we have one more clip here and this is me saving you from having
listened, having to listen to Alex's next guest.
Dinesh D'Souza is with us.
He is the number two biggest.
I'm going to start this over because you yelled.
Sorry.
Dinesh D'Souza is with us.
Let's start this over because you yelled again.
Dinesh D'Souza is with us.
He is the number two biggest filmmaker in history.
And that's been Hollywood outsider.
It's also a number one New York Times best selling author of death of a nation.
Oh boy.
I would prefer death of a Dinesh.
He's trying to do this as a like a mirror of birth of a nation.
Yeah.
Just fun.
His whole argument seems to be that like fascist organizations over history are
actually liberals as opposed to having conservative vets.
Yep.
And most of the arguments that I've seen, I'm never going to watch that whole
documentary, but the clips that I've seen have largely had to do with misrepresenting
the party swap that happened in the 60s.
That it's mostly just playing how the civil rights removed any and all Southern
Democrats from the Democratic Party.
It's mostly playing games of that in the same way that Alex does with like the
Democrats with a party of slavery.
It's like, yeah, but you got to, you know, I don't think I don't think any Democrat
anymore that I can, that I've ever spoken to will not acknowledge that the Democratic
Party was the party of slavery.
They can't not.
Yeah.
They have to deny history.
That's part of, that's part of the Democratic Party is we're all like, dude,
for real, it was fucked up shit.
But then we got the civil rights act passed and all of those guys left to you.
So, uh, let's, let's hold off.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, didn't it, like, did all the racists leave from the Democratic
Party? No, fuck.
No, no, I'm sure we've got tons.
Yeah, there's problems.
You guys want slavery again.
That's all I'm saying.
So Dinesh D'Souza is the number two filmmaker of all time.
I had trouble with this.
So I looked up his filmography.
He's, he's, uh, right behind Alan Smithy, right?
Uh, uh, yeah, yeah, as a, uh, fill in name.
No, if I make a bad movie, I am going to change my name to Dinesh D'Souza, but
without the apostrophe and just call it.
I honestly thought when I did my research for this, I thought he said he was the
number two documentary filmmaker of all time.
He said, oh, number two of us.
So behind James Cameron, I guess.
So, but I understood it to be documentary filmmakers.
So that's where I did my research.
Cause I assumed he meant Michael Moore was number one.
Like, and he just didn't want to name him.
Yeah.
So I looked into it and what I found was that the, uh, here are the top
grossing documentary films of all time.
Number one is Fahrenheit 9-11 made $119 million at the box office.
Number two is Alaska spirit of the wild.
100 million directed by George Casey.
Number three, Antarctica, 100 million at the box office.
Can you believe that?
Crazy directed by a guy named John Wiley.
Antarctica?
Yeah.
And at the box office, 100 million and from DVD sales.
All that.
Oh, okay.
Total gross.
Okay.
I got you.
Number four, space station 3D.
Uh, it was $93.3 million directed by someone named Tony Myers.
So I looked into Dinesh D'Souza's filmography.
Here's what we got.
We got, uh, 2016, Obama's America, $33 million.
All right.
That's not terrible.
No, no, that's crazy.
I would, I would hand, I would take that.
How much did it cost him?
It was probably nothing.
Yeah.
It was the top grossing documentary of 2016, which
is unfortunate because tickled came out that year, but
there's other, you know, all of that was kind of a thin
field in terms of documentaries.
I'm like, I had 33 million.
It's pretty good.
Um, America, imagine the world without her 14 million.
Hillary is America made 13 million.
Imagine the world with her death.
Death of a nation just came out, but it's grossed about 3.5
million in the first few weeks, which is great for what is
obviously a no budget document.
Yeah, it costs him $100,000 to make a documentary.
They're not even easily.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But at the same time, all four of these add up to about
$67 million, right?
Which combined for his career second behind James Cameron,
it is so goddamn far from the second, even documentarian or
filmmaker, who's ever existed in the span of his career.
Dinesh D'Souza hasn't even grossed as much as March of the
Penguins or the Justin Bieber concert, Kurt film.
Never say never has the, now the only question never, the
Justin Bieber film, great over $10 million more than all of
Dinesh D'Souza's films combined.
It's eight and it deserves every penny.
Is, is he beating Werner Hertz off?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Errol Morris, probably.
And Errol Morris.
Man, that's disappointing.
It's unfortunate because those guys didn't have good box office
openings.
Like the thin blue line probably only made like $2 million at
the box office.
Yeah, but it's not really a popcorn movie.
No, you know, it's more of a, it's a more of a sit at home in
your apartment alone, watching it at 2am drunk and crying.
And Fitz Corraldo didn't make much.
Who could have guessed why?
But I don't think those movies also came out at times when they,
like I, I wasn't adjusting for inflation.
So like Errol Morris's documentaries that came out in
the like mid 80s and then Herzog's around the same time.
Yeah.
Like it wouldn't be adjusted for, and I, yeah, but Grizzly man.
That did pretty well.
That's a good point.
Let me look that up.
I didn't look that up.
Yeah.
I forgot.
Here's the real comedy of that.
I forgot that Herzog did Grizzly.
Let's see what that gross.
I don't like, well, I'm looking this up.
You go to your phone.
I'm not going to my phone.
The time when I need you to vamp the hardest.
Um, so it probably wasn't actually that great at the three, 3.1 million.
Oh, it wasn't that great.
I mean, that's, that's pretty good for a documentary, but yeah.
And that's why the, the anti-Obama film, uh, getting 33 million is,
is very notable.
Like the fact that he has that in his catalog is not, is not to be ignored
or looked down on, but there might be a different variable there.
Why?
That was so popular.
I can't think of any variable.
I don't know.
It's mysterious.
They could, it may be because there's a certain subsection of the population
that feels underserved by their conspiracy theories, not being constantly
and, uh, aggressively repeated to them by, uh, Hollywood.
And so they, uh, artificially inflate the numbers of anybody.
Like, uh, what's his, uh, Kirk Cameron movies make money, they make money.
They make money.
They don't lose money.
Well, but that goes back to like Jim Baker types.
Right.
Because a lot of that, that a lot of those are like, you'll have it over
inflated gross just because of, uh, church groups that come and see it.
Like I used to work, I used to manage this movie theater and we would
constantly have buses of churches that would come in for movies like Carmen.
Or Carmen.
No.
Carmen was this old, uh, like, uh, I thought you were talking about the opera.
No, no, no.
There was this guy named Carmen who was like a Christian celebrity and he
would make these like super low budget Christian movies, but sometimes they
would show up at our theater.
We were the secondary theater in town.
And so if we got that, they would sell the fuck out because bus loads of
Christians would come, uh, and they would just go see Carmen, the champion.
I remember my, no one else would.
My whole town growing up shut down when the passion of the Christ came out.
Totally.
Every single fucking church was like Sundays are canceled.
Yeah.
When that came out and it wasn't because of like too many people.
It was because it was all groups of 200.
Whereas most organic movie viewing is groups of three, yeah, groups of four,
maybe a date you would have buses come and like fill the parking lot.
And I like, yeah, I get it.
That's fine.
If you guys all want to do this as an outing and, uh, boost your own shift.
Cool.
I am not against it, but I'm still furious.
I never got a hand job during the passion of the Christ.
I furious.
You, you have a girlfriend now.
Yeah.
You have Netflix.
Right.
You can make this happen.
Is it on Netflix?
I don't know.
I haven't looked.
Uh, it seems too late now.
Now it seems almost manufactured.
I want an organic hand job during the passion of the Christ.
Organic orgasm.
Yeah.
You know, it is on Netflix though.
What?
Justin Bieber is done.
Do they include it like the rights that it, like does Netflix, Netflix has to pay
some sort of fee every time somebody views it.
That's generally, I think included in the gross, but I don't imagine that comes
down like what would be considered in the gross is the contract that Netflix is
paying the licensing fee or whatever it is.
I don't think it comes down to view like viewer numbers.
That's how Netflix decides what they keep and get rid of.
Right.
I think that the Netflix just pays whatever.
There's a blanket licensing fee right off the top and then they go from there.
Yeah.
And whoever watches it, watches it.
Right.
And that's why like, there's all these like really shitty things.
They probably paid 50 bucks to put them right.
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:02,720
All right.
Like everybody's special.
What's, what's pulled up.
There's some good comedy on there.
There's some real bad comedy on there too.
Rory Scoville special.
Fantastic.
I've watched it like 10 times.
Good stuff.
Still great.
Good.
Anal, anal.
Who's done anal?
Fantastic.
Perfect.
That is not a good representative sample of Rory Scoville's special.
But it's what you chose.
It's, it's the way it opens.
That's the only point.
Anyway, Jordan, if I need to bring this episode to an end, what I would say is
that the last time we checked in on modern day, Alex, right after the band in
getting kicked off of stuff.
I made my point that, you know, his fate is in his own hands and he can do
whatever he wants now and we'll see what happens.
My point now is he's fucked.
And it's his own fault.
It's his own fault.
He could have done much better.
And instead he's rambling about the Chinese and stuff like that.
And hey, you know what?
If you want to complain about the Chinese, that's fine.
If you want to complain that the Chinese, like, hey, no one can cover
the Chinese doing stuff.
That's fucking stupid.
There's an article right here from the other day out of the Chinese News,
Channel News Asia about China delays mosque demolition after a protest.
Weird Beijing authorities in Northern China delayed the demolition of a
massive mosque on Saturday after thousands of people demonstrated to
stop its destruction.
Local residents said amid a nationwide government drive to tighten restrictions
on religious activities.
Across China, officials have sought to limit religious freedoms for Muslims as
part of a widespread attempt to bring believers in line with the dictates of
the ruling Communist Party.
So if you want to talk about stuff like this, you can.
People are, there are news stories about that.
And there's plenty of news stories you can find from, you know, our outlets in
America about oppressive shit they're doing from CNBC, rudely trampling on
international trade rules.
China, you know, it's not like, it's not like no one is saying China is being
a dick or whatever.
No, that's a pretty regular statement that a lot of people make.
Yeah, because China is being a dick.
Yeah, you can't claim, he can't claim that, which is not to absolve us.
America is being the number one dick right now.
Oh, totally.
We're to share in the blame.
Yeah.
But like that, that, that sort of narrative, Alex would be much better
served if he actually dwelled in some nuance.
So yeah, but it doesn't, it's just, nope, it's all nonsense, man.
It, it, it's just diminished fear and ad pivots.
It's the exact same game we saw him playing for years and years.
And he's so trained like a, like a Pavlovian dog that he is just doing
the same thing and expecting the same result.
And it's not going to work.
He needs his, he needs his Rocky three.
Once he just got his ass kicked by Mr.
T. He needs a bad ass training montage.
Probably some domestic issues with his wife.
He needs to overcome it.
And then he needs to knock Mr.
T. Can those domestic issues be with his ex-wife?
Cause then we might be cooking with gas.
I think we might be cooking with gas there.
And then three installments later, he'll make a good one.
Yeah.
What?
Whoa.
Did you just disparage Rocky for the greatest movie of all time?
Oh my God, Rocky for it's like if America was a movie, here's the time
where I tell you, I've never seen any Rocky movies.
Oh boy.
Guys, if we add another $50 to the Patreon by the end of next month, Dan
and I will do a knowledge fight commentary of all of the Rocky movies in one day.
I'll probably have some thoughts about it.
I mean, please, if you'd like the show, support the show, you know, it's shitty
after we just clown on Alex for his nonsense, but we appreciate everybody.
Also, we are not going to do Rocky movies.
We might.
We might.
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There's not a lot there anymore, but we're working on, I'm working on a lot of
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It's going to take a while.
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That's correct.
We're also on iTunes.
Man, look at all these platforms we're on.
So many.
I think we've criticized the Chinese more coherently than Alex.
And yet here we are.
Oh boy.
It's still online.
Oh, Dan, I think it's my turn.
I think it might be.
So I think the obvious answer to the question of who should go fuck themselves
this week is the number two filmmaker of all time.
No, it's actually a Jack from Twitter.
Go fuck yourself.
You pussy.
And the fans are sure on the air.
Thanks for holding.
So Alex, I'm a first-name caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.