Knowledge Fight - #202: September 4-6, 2018

Episode Date: September 7, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the incredibly chaotic couple of days that Alex Jones has lived through. He thought he was going to DC to have some fun, he ended up getting kicked off Twitter, and Dan and Jordan end up arguing about journalism.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Well, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed. We are Dan. Dan. Yeah, what's up? What did you do last Sunday? What did I do last Sunday? Is this uh, Are you interrogating me? I'm asking. Where were you on the date of August? 30th 9th No, no idea. No idea. No idea zero idea What are you getting at? No, I have no idea

I just your questions are really starting to fall. No, they're getting wild. Is it real? I understand that you're sort of like I'm searching for an opening bit Dan. We had one for a long time. That was terrible. Now. I'm searching for the questions We've had a good question. Yeah. I know we've had a good one I know and that's why you kind of have to ask these sort of random questions because who knows what they're gonna Exactly. I don't know what I was doing last Sunday. All right. Sorry. Anyway, this is a show where I know a lot about And I only know what you tell me about and today I think we might be drinking a little bit different of a novelty beverage today, right? Oh my what is this? Oh, no Foley work. Oh

Oh, shit. Oh, shit Oh boy popping corks Ladies and gentlemen as is Jordan's want, uh, whenever alex jones gets kicked off of something he decides to bring champagne over Which I don't mind. I'm not mad at you. Champagne is a generous way of describing a nine dollars bottle of bubbly water Well, that's all that's all the champagne is and all that ever will be as far as I'm concerned It's well, I'll tell you this right now. Dan. It is not from the champagne region. Oh, no, say say malls No, no, shit. It's shit. Uh, but that is fine. Um, so

I'm happy to be able to afford nine dollars As everyone now knows alex jones and info wars account itself have been permanently banned from twitter Uh, and David knight doing david knight probably still on Twitter presence is boring as hell Um, and this is coming off the heels of on Wednesday of this week alex jones did a one day trip to washington dc to go harass people during the uh, senate intelligence hearings about Uh, social media about how he's a dick more. Oh, I don't know if that's really what the hearings were about. No, I think they were

Um, but We got a lot a lot a lot to talk about. This is a interesting episode that we're going to have Breaking down some of the ins the outs some of the uh, I don't know some of my just random feelings about things Right, but one thing that is not a random feeling is what I feel for our listeners Nice transition day and our new donors. There we go. I'd like to give a shout out to a couple people who've Signed up to support the show. Uh, first of all darin. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk. Thanks darin. Also like to give a big shout out to chase. Thank you so much chase. You are now a policy wonk

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you chase bank. This still isn't enough. You owe dan 40 30 dollars. God damn it Still by the way going through it with them. Yeah, yeah, it's so frustrating because they know they're gonna give me the money They're just inconveniencing me. Yeah. Well, they get bad assholes They get a small amount of interest the longer they avoid paying you 30 dollars They they are making like three or four cents off of you right now. It's gotta be the scam. Yeah Anyway, also like to give a thank you to uh, dakota. You are now a policy wonk I'm a policy wonk like I told you before we have so many dakota This is a different dakota different dakota or or our

Is our one dakota just making a bunch of different accounts in order to maintain policy wonk status And here dakota over and over and over again without ever getting to globalist status I discount no possibilities as being uh, when it comes to dakota anything the wily dakotas of the world We appreciate the most so very much. Thank you very much dakota If you'd like to support the show you can go to our website. It's knowledge fight dot com We click that button that says support the show. We would appreciate it. Also, um I keep us in nine dollar champagne I set up the patreon to be like send an automatic message to people that when they donated

That gave them the password to our bonus section on the website. Yeah, I think it might end up in some people's spam filters There are some bonus episodes not of our podcast, but of the conspiracy podcast that that's what you want That's what they want you to think exactly and I know a lot of there have been a couple people on the facebook group Who have asked about that and so just as a broad uh message If you did not get the password to that and you would like it Please send me a message. I will send it right to you and they probably won't even check if you donated to the show So if you just want it, I'll probably give it to you. You're really busy and I'm bad at this You are but you know what?

Fine. I don't like to I don't like to withhold. Uh, let's say yeah, uh things from people just because I want money or something Yeah, I don't think I don't think it feels shitty. I don't think the uh, the password is really going to make or break your uh, No, your finances. No, I don't think so. Yeah, um, we'll have to go with six dollar, uh, champagne next time Ooh get some andre. Yeah Get some cold duck. Uh, what's the what's the vodka that you can get for like like wolf schmidt? Oh, yeah, the the the standard for like, uh, you know street vodka in my uh, in my younger years was congress Congress congress vodka was the cheapest. How much was that two bucks for a pint? Maybe two bucks for a pint is bad Yeah, what we'll do. We'll get some frescas. We'll get some wolf schmidt

Mix them together. That's cheap champagne is what that is one time I drank an entire pint of congress vodka in one tug No, it was a half pint. No, you would have been dead. It was a half pint. You would have died Uh, I I me and my buddies were gonna go bowling and uh, so me and the only way to deal with the boredom of bowling Is to get shitfaced before you go. I did not so much want to go Yeah, uh, and so they they were going and like a lot of my other friends are busy I'll go fucking tag along with you and so me and my uh, one of my buddies, josh, uh, he he and I decided Don't know why let's see what happens if we chug half pints of vodka before we go

So you just go took the whole thing to the head in one in one chug Bad night of bowling. Yeah bad night of bowling very drunk very fast Was your was your bowling bad or was the night bad bowl? You of course not couldn't bowl. We just kept drinking Anyway, oh, that's nice speaking of which i'm gonna get into this champagne Jordan, how do you feel? Man, I wish I had asked a question up atop that would have led to that story as opposed to some dumb shit about Uh, fucking what'd you do last sunday? See if I can cheaply edit it all together. Yeah. Yeah. I know what you did last summer I'll tell you that right now. Right. So jordan what I was what I was going to do

Um, I sat down to get this episode together and because of the events of the last two days Alex going to washington alex getting banned from twitter I knew that what we would have to do is do a present day episode as much as it pains My my heart and soul I'd rather be looking at the past But you know, you got to do what you got to do duty calls So I I I thought about it and i'm like, okay. Well, I know oan shroyer was hosting on wednesday when alex was in dc So I I thought that alex would be in dc for longer So I thought for sure thursday's show would also be oan shroyer hosting. Yeah, so my move was all right

Let's go check out tuesday's show the last time alex was around before all of this nonsense. Let's see what we can learn from that Yeah Now halfway through that. I realized based on twitter action alex is in studio here on thursday So I had to jump he is he went to dc for a day just to do that And then came back in time to do his show on thursday

So, oh, that's that's professional. I suppose so So I have a few clips that I want to play from Tuesday's show because I think they're important and then most of this episode will be going over thursday's show Where alex is sort of basking in the afterglow of having gone to dc and fucked with marco rubio So and it's kind of fun because we all know that a couple hours later He gets kicked off twitter and he doesn't know it at all. So there's kind of a fun thing there But here is an out of context drop from what we'll be going over today No

My favorite dj calls if you're a white supremacist you should should not be allowed to play james brownstone Like there should be a there should be a police force specifically for that. We got my man roger stone in the booth On the wheels of steel so great Oh god, um, so we'll start here on tuesday, which is the fourth. I believe if i'm not. Yeah, I'm not much mistaken um and Most of the show is about alex being mad that everyone is saying that he doesn't have a lot of fans right It's really petulant. It's really petty. Uh, and it takes up

A very large portion of the episode that sounds right for a malignant narcissist So he's rambling about how the media is weaponized and they're trying to destroy your will Trying to break your back. I kind of wish they were weaponized because right now they are doing a shit job It's it's tough. It's very tough right now. We got to weaponize them But alex uses this as his example of how the media is so evil. Okay And so they have fake news everywhere that we're being shut down that it's all over And to demoralize you just like a fine military is what the global star. They're basically chi-com operatives. That sounds great Saying alex jones said bands would strengthen him. He was wrong. Let's find out

Well And it was about 45 minutes ago So I think it should be over here on the computer because I just went or I'll walk across street And I'll go live again. That's I tweeted it out at real alex jones the proof that we put that tweet up I tweeted it out. Can't anymore On the interface in tim verge one of the manager's offices because it wasn't in yet And I walked in and I said pull up google analytics boom highest traffic ever in the last month

Showed you a two year three year graph Even back towards the election Now there it is Now this is what we're talking about here And of course periscope doesn't show you a full shot. So you guys have to click on the video. I won't show it Yeah, there it is highest traffic ever that peak right there. It's right now So this is what we're talking about here And they know this and I told the new york times this and I told them all that but they don't care

They want to lie to you. It's what they do All right, so is what is he pointing to what are you talking about? I mean, he's he's saying that there's a graph that says it's his highest traffic ever. Yeah, so What graph says that it's I mean, it's fair I mean, but he's just not telling the whole story, right? No, that's what I'm saying That's what I'm asking because if you look on alexa you can look this up Like he had a massive spike in traffic around like into august Yeah, when he got kicked off all that stuff everyone was like googling him back. What's up with this alex jones guy

Right, right. So the four wars got a ton of traffic and they did spike And then you see an immediate drop off. What a surprise So it's immediate drop off back to about where he was before or around about So he is he is telling the truth, but he's just using a sort of cheating graph. Yeah. Yeah, so Great. I mean the the new york times whenever they're talking about this. They're talking about what happened after he got kicked off stuff Yeah, he's using the immediate thing as like that's the truth forever In the same way that whenever uh, he got kicked off everything his app shot up the ranks Of course and he's like, we're the number one app and like, yeah, you slid way down after that immediate push

Oh, yeah, yeah, because there there is like that. Oh, where are we gonna get this from? That's all my great and then you see diminishing returns because you're not getting penetration You're not getting more people coming around Well, not least of which nobody has any fucking attention span. So any kind of cause a love becomes Non-existent two days later. Anyway, sure once the rage has set off. Yeah, or it's decim dissipated Yeah, you know, it's like, uh, you know, how great we uh, you know, how we fixed flint when everybody you Spent a good a good couple of days tweeting about it And then it was fixed, right? I think it's a bummer. We did it a lot of people didn't stop tweeting about it

And it still didn't help. Yeah. So, uh, alex is not done talking about this He wants to tell you more about how his traffic is better than everyone says I mean the new york times pans out Pulitzer prize is Again, it's all concerted with that stupid committee. That's that would be like being given an award, you know for jeffrey dommer Uh for for his culinary wisdom Or again hitler giving someone an iron cross. I would never take a Pulitzer prize Your buddy mylo has an iron cross. Take a Nobel peace prize because you only give them to war criminals and murderers and scum It's like giving nambla an award for child care. Get a north american man boy love association

This is a group of organized criminals that we have allowed to run rampant paid off by foreign banks and the child Milo is a member of religion of hating this country And who think that they have defeated you They think they've broken your will I tweeted video video google analytics an hour ago It's on real alex jones right now. We're gonna shoot hd later and put it up on screen for you But this is off twitter of us having the highest

Visitors to info wars dot com in the month of august. We've ever had So, I mean he's talking about like they want to take you down and he's immediately just talking about his own traffic yeah, it's like Well, if they take him down they take you down such as he's the bulwark dan. He's the first there So minor what award would you give jeffrey dommer though? uh I probably I probably wouldn't I don't I can't think you wouldn't I feel like he has done something superlative I don't know. Maybe he was a good soccer player at some point in his life. Maybe he gets uh, like a trophy of some sort

Uh participation award defensive player of the year. I don't know I don't know enough. I haven't read any of his uh, like uh biographies to know about his uh Extracurricular skills all right the stuff that I do know about him not award worthy not award worthy not in my books I mean, you know, there's a relative Actually, you know what even in the realm of cannibals. He's really not in the top 10 No, he's way down there. Not a chance. He got caught too soon. There's a trifling ass cannibal. Yeah, exactly A lot of people have cannibal better than him, you know, it goes above him on the rankings the fine young cannibal I

I don't know if they ever actually anybody that's driving me crazy. Oh, okay. All right. All right Um, so in this next one do that one more time No, you get half So in this next clip alex, uh, uh, I mean he just continues with the theme Alex jones said bands would strengthen him. He was wrong. They give something called Tubal woobal or something. I never heard of tubal pain. They say jones is down 50 percent To send a message to you to demoralize you and to make you shut up and think the resistance is losing All of this is done military style

What that's like doggy style You know, let me just give everybody a little bit of a news flash really we're bringing in record amounts of money Really, but the enemy's ratcheted up record expenses. So I need a lot more And I've been honest about that All they had to do was tune in to hear that hurt thing that we've doubled over my head hardcore daily audience But we're killing us on reaching new people, which is what they really want to do I told you weeks ago. What was going on? Do you want rtj one analytics? Did you tell us on rtj too the truth

My religion is respecting you What that means telling you what I really think about you when you're wrong And I feel disgraced in the human species that they can find so much traitorous trash That's been brought up in this country to man the fake news media to destroy the truth and engage in fraud and try to bring in Dark age level authoritarianism So here it is right here Alex jones we talk like her Alex jones said bands would strengthen him. He was wrong So a woman talks like her soul was shut down

No idea what he's talking about there. No clue. Um, so yeah, I mean most of what we would have ended up I mean, I'm kind of glad that this all happened because otherwise most of our episode would have been like Jesus Why is he he's spending most of his episode talking about his traffic and how everyone says it's worse than it is So I needed to I needed to put all that in just because You know, it's fairly it's relevant and I listened to it. So we might as well hear some of it It's kind of funny, especially the thing of like we're making more money His ability to brag and yet still give you the insinuation that he needs more money is insane We're making record numbers of money, but they're also causing record expenses and we're gonna need more

Right, like how did you do that? It's that we're six. We're winning, but also it's a tie ball game Yeah, it's that it's that spirit that he needs to project to his audience Or else the game is up. He's a master of fiscal judo I'll tell you that right now because if he just project projects, we're winning then no one is motivated to Needlessly give him money But if it's uh, if it's also a tied ball game, then he can't brag and be like we're destroying them He has to walk the fine line with both of them or else his business and rhetoric model don't match and they don't work together He is a tightrope walker

Extraordinaire, I'll tell you that because he's been running this game for a long time. Yeah until just about now So now we get to thursday and uh, we got a bit of an adventure to go through here Um, we're going to start with alex talking about How he wasn't being disruptive when he went to washington For everyone, I can't imagine that there are too many people who listen to our show who don't know what happened when he went to washington I'm the only one who doesn't know what happened Legitimately. I'm the only one who doesn't have any details I couldn't avoid hearing that he and marco rubio got into a fight or whatever

But beyond that, I don't know a goddamn thing and I feel really stupid now. Okay. Well, I'll just give you a little bit of a breakdown Thank you Alex jones went to washington All right, good work. Well, thanks dan while he was there. He was also joined by uh, laura lumar Cassandra fairbanks and of course charles johnson chuck johnson if you're nasty, right? Chuck johnson most notable recently for trying to push those fake uh, doctored Documents about chuck schumer having sexually harassed a staffer with along with mike sernovich who?

I don't know if it's been proven or disproven that they may have made those fake documents So they were trying to work in a propaganda campaign in order to dis unseat chuck schumer Right, right. And so now he got the suicide squad up and ready. Yeah, so they're in effect and mike sernovich also This was really fun. He is tweeting. Wow. All this is going down. I've never been more thrilled to have gotten out of public life and left dc nice You're like sort of that's fun. This is a fucking that's fun I don't think that he was shitting on them, but kind of like uh, i'm glad i'm not there Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. Hey, you guys you guys do that work. I'm uh, I'm pretty stoked. I'm not

I'll tell you that right now So laura lumergo, uh, she went into the hearing and she started trying to disrupt and scream about how she's being censored Uh, and then I can't remember who it was, but uh, some senator started doing auctioneer calls like Yeah, I heard I heard about that and then she got taken out and kicked out surprise Alex jones doesn't make a scene in the actual courtroom or in the hearing room because he knows that he would also just get Taken out and yeah, there's not a lot of sympathy for him So what he does is he waited in the hall and when marco rubio is getting interviewed He just started butting in and yelling questions at him

And it's that it's the general strategy of conspiracy theorists where they have 30 points They yell at you right and then expect you to respond to all of them or one of them And if you respond to one, then they'll be like, well, what about the other 29? If you respond to none of them, but you can't you can't handle my questions, right? It's a trap and he was trying to set a trap for marco rubio and as much as I hate marco rubio He did the best he could there's nothing you can do in that situation It's like he's alex is coming in to try and initiate a situation where he gets to make a video that you look stupid in Or alex looks like a big man. Yeah. Um, and so marco rubio just kind of laughed and was like, who are you?

That sort of thing and nicely done. That's as good as you can kind of do in that situation Didn't didn't he tweet something in support of conservatives being censored immediately after alex jones was kicked off facebook though I don't I don't know like he he fucking knows who alex is. I'm sure he does but maybe didn't recognize him with the beard Like that's possible Like there's a hundred possibilities Who's who shitty beard is talking to me right now? Is there a man attached to that beard or is it just a monstrosity, sir? Is this a walking version of that weird magnet game where you have little metal shavings and you make a shitty beard on a little Plastic thing. Uh, so look, uh at the end towards the end of it alex sort of

Jovially pats marco rubio on the shoulder, which is inappropriate. You shouldn't touch people Uh, probably not, uh, especially senators. Don't touch them I'm gonna go with remove the especially from that sentence dan Well, it's because the senators are no better than the rest of us and that is probably an issue that we should talk about Um, I agree with you But I also think that they are in a class that is more likely to be attacked than a normal citizen generally Like there are more assassinations or attempts of politicians I don't know if you consider just assaults and murders then normal people are just on par. Yeah

Look, it's it's humans. Don't fucking touch people. Don't touch humans unless they want to be equally across the spectrum So he consent always he pats alex on the or alex pats him on the shoulder And he says don't touch me Like don't like not like a terse mean thing, but like don't touch me right and alex's A completely reasonable thing to say alex's responses. What are you going to have me arrested and marco rubio's responses? I you wouldn't get arrested. I can take care of myself alex immediately. It was like, oh, you're gonna take care of me Oh, you gotta fight Right, which is another trap funny

He touched him intentionally in order to trigger some sort of thing like that where they get into a macho posture fest So he does that propaganda piece and good on him Is that like the sequel to lila fair the macho posture fest? Yes, absolutely. Okay much Very different very different not as culturally relevant So he does that and it works people bite and talk about him a whole bunch and congratulations on your uh, sort of uh You know publicity stunt. Yeah, he did what he got publicity He he executed a perfect publicity stunt and I assumed and there were no consequences whatsoever for his actions well, then he also

ran into oliver darcy reporter for cnn in the hall and for nine minutes held a camera on his face and told him that he had evil eyes And that he was a monster and he was trying to destroy families and history would remember him as a horrible monster and to Because he just because he just worked for cnn. Well, no, I as I understand He was one of the people who was pointing out when twitter came out and said that alex would be kicked off If he did the things that he has done in the past in the present

Yeah, like he hasn't violated that our current terms of service or whatever I believe he was pushing the like, uh, actually here's the one who said here's a list of all of the shit that he's done That you should have done. He may have had some involvement in that and that's why he's a big target for alex Gotcha. So alex is like telling him that he looks like, uh, uh, a possum that came out of a cow's ass He calls him boy at a point. You should know that's not good. He's not white. That's not good. So Yeah, no, I know. I know darcy's not white. Um, so there's there's a tone to it And it's really funny because oliver darcy is just kind of like Yeah, anything else you want to say alex and he's like got his camera up taping him to yeah. Yeah

What else you got buddy? He's just more exasperated than and kind of amused. He's laughing at some points Well, it's it's pretty funny. Yeah And I think this probably was the bigger problem You know between this and then also straight up just yelling at jack dorsi when you walk by him until like that I think those are really the the issues the marco rubio thing. I think you can present that is a publicity stunt The thing with oliver darcy is racially tinged targeted harassment We there is nothing there is no other purpose for him to have been there for nine minutes yelling shit at him

Yeah with not getting anything back not having a debate not having an interview of any kind It's it's just harassment. Yeah And no, it's like a it's like a Isn't that like a crime? Then there's some sort of crime. I mean, it's yeah, I I I don't at least there should be a fine for it Right, maybe a misdemeanor. Yeah No, we talked about this off air when it was like right your your contention is that jack dorsi was on the up and up When he said that the reason that he got kicked off was for how dare you what?

No, I don't put those words in my mouth fair enough fair enough You then you tell me open up. No, okay fine. I apologize. That's that's my interpretation Obviously based on a negative way on based on alex's behavior should have been thrown off long ago Right, I don't think that like alex harassing jack dorsi in public I don't think that jack would be like. Oh my god. He's come close to my space or something like that Yeah, and then been like ban. Yeah, I I do believe Based on the statement that twitter put out it does make sense to me that the nine minutes of him straight up harassing a

Individual who didn't deserve any of that kind of treatment to and broadcasting it over twitter's service periscope Racistly, right? Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, it's not racist, but boy. It's racist. Yeah, that's the sort of thing Yeah, and then you call him boy. You're a racist. Yes And then on top of that you have the idea that he's using this platform that twitter owns In order to broadcast that harassment and the people listening and watching it are using the same platform To then turn around and send mean messages to oliver darcy. Yeah, you have a situation where it's like Okay, this is absolute abuse of the platform. This is cut and dry, right? I don't say i'm not here to say the jack dorsi is on the up and up

I don't trust his motives at all, right? But They say that that is the straw that broke the camel's back and i'm willing to accept that as a reasoning With the caveat that he should have been thrown off long ago Right, we can just sort of let that be let that sit on the table. Yeah or whatever my my personal reaction to it is based on the reports of jack Uh personally intervening to make sure that alex stays on the platform Uh, I i'm gonna lean more towards they found an excuse after jack was personally accosted That's why that's my opinion. Uh, and you know what? I can totally see and uh, absolutely recognize yours

It's it's too too obvious Like if they didn't if he hadn't have confronted jack and he still did that I would probably be far more likely to agree with you whole clock. That's fair The reason that my feeling is my feeling on it is that I would assume that there was a robust conversation going on Within twitter's world. Yeah, and jack was being like spear if you will he was being like, well You know, let's not kick him off. You know, he was personally Vetoing the the kicking off of alex. Yeah, and then after that interaction with darcy I would not be surprised if that was enough to be like he'd be like, all right, you guys are right. Fuck this

Let's just do it. I agree with you 100% No matter what the reality is alex had way too many chances and he blew all of them Yeah, and it has nothing to do with any of the things that he suspects that it is some sort of silencing of conservatives or anything like that This is all the very natural consequences of his actions Now be back to the further problem that I bring up every time something like this happens twitter has entered a dangerous territory Because now what you have to do is you have to enforce these sorts of rules uniformly and you can't do that Yeah, so you're opening up the world for the alt right alex jones's fans

The people who the hangers on the lingerers of the of his fan base You're opening up an opportunity for them to cry hypocrisy every time Someone does something similar to him and they don't get kicked off pretty much But that's exactly what we saw after milo got kicked off of twitter pretty much You had the free milo campaign where everyone was posting similar things that uh to to his racist harassment of leslie jones Yeah, uh, and they were like hey, they got away with it. Why did you get punishing milo right that sort of thing? So we have that to look forward to but if milo's case study is any indication It doesn't matter and it'll blow over and then he'll just be a sad man ranting somewhere in the wilderness about how he doesn't have

Money anymore. Well, I just assume that now We have this precedent set that uh the next time trump goes off on a twitter rant that is almost certainly going to be racist I i'm imagining that he's gonna be kicked off twitter I I believe in twitter wholeheartedly that they will yeah, we'll see fuck off. So now there's no chance Yeah, a bunch of cowards. Yeah, yeah, the the other the other thing I lost my train of thought. I'm not sure. Sorry for interrupting you. No, it's all right. It's all right So that's most of what happened in dc when alex is there obviously there's you know extraneous other things of like alex Being a jackass

Just with his cameraman and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know saying he's a victim of shit. Who's his cameraman? I don't know I do remember the name, but it's not someone who we've ever talked about Oh, okay, and actually I don't remember the name, but I remember hearing the name. Yeah, it's just like Brent or something It's just like a jobber. Well, it's the whitest guy they could find. Yeah Brent So alex is convinced that he did nothing wrong and he wasn't being disruptive and that's fair You know, yeah, you're right to do whatever you want Everyone else has the right to kick you out of places for doing things that aren't appropriate there

but The way he starts his narrative is by comparing himself to the people who are protesting at Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings also I would not be too surprised by the way if a lot of this is to distract from the Kavanaugh hearings. Yeah, also This look i'm not going to spin a conspiracy theory about this. Let's hear it This is exactly the outcome alex wanted

The reason alex behaved the way he did in dc was to either push the limits to show that I can show up Wherever I want do whatever the fuck I want. They're not going to do anything or get kicked off to further his persecution narrative Yeah, like this is exactly the outcome He would have preferred because the other one's no fun because then you've pushed the envelope to an extent where All of your cries of like censorship and i'm being you know forced out like they don't Doesn't hold water. Yeah, that's true. So he got exactly what he wanted out of this whole thing It just seemed you know I I agree with you. I agree with you

I would normally not agree with you if we were talking about any rational human being I would not agree with you because twitter's Ability to spread his message is absolutely central to his ability To make money So a smart person would say do not do that But he's got to do that because he has no other He just can't process as of right now Who knows if this is going to change paul joseph watson is still on twitter great at the same time the the way that twitter works

There's so many sock puppet accounts. There's so many dummy accounts and shit like that who actually I mean they get lots of traffic Yeah, it's very easy to disseminate things artificially on twitter through false accounts So I don't think that his reach will necessarily be all that diminished by him not being there It'll just add martyr status to him You know in a way fair enough in a way that people still talk about stuff that mylo does on twitter and shit like that He still gets access to twitter through other people using it on his behalf Yeah, that's true and the difference is that mylo didn't also then put out four hours of radio a day So that's true. Alex already has an uh operation in place

That will feed the content then all these other accounts on twitter will then push these are very but these are very good points So I do not disagree with you on any one of them so far the timing of it is very suspicious considering that Kavanaugh is uh having his hearings that are going very poorly It doesn't matter. He's still gonna get confirmed, but yeah, that's great We're doing great guys going very poorly to the point where like all the stuff that's coming out about his previous Opinions and stuff like that are very scary to the point where we've pretty much proven two things That he has stolen documents and lied about it. Yes

That he is going to overturn roby wade at his first opportunity and doesn't believe in uh equal opportunity type things Yeah, he's a complete racist civil rights for uh, the koayans and the only reason That he was appointed the only reason that he is the choice as we talked about Earlier today is because he will do everything in his power to keep Trump from being indicted or he believes in like presidential immunity exactly and and it's very very What was the quote? We should not bother the presidency with a Frivolous all of that stuff. Yeah Frivolous crimes that they've committed

The issue the issue comes down to that of course that's why he was picked And of course, he knows that's why he was picked. Yep So that's troubling and that's the only reason that I have even the kernel of like a conspiracy theory about this Like I can't prove this and I'm not going to stand by it necessarily But him becoming supreme court is one uh Supreme court justice is one of the most important things to trump surviving all of this. Oh, yeah, absolutely and By extension alex surviving a lot of this stuff roger stone surviving all of this stuff So it makes some sense that the propaganda outlet that completely behold into donald trump and have mutual survival interest

Yeah, would then create a huge stunt in order to get a ton of media attention away from how poorly The hearings are going right, so I don't know if that's the case, but from a strategic viewpoint. I could see it kind of being and I mean Like it like it does make sense It sounds like roger stone, but it doesn't make sense because he's a rat fucker Because roger doesn't get yet that trump is not going to help him. I think he does You think so that's why he's doing all these gofundmes and shit for uh, is legal fees Yeah, but then why would you bother with cavanaugh cavanaugh is there so trump doesn't get hurt right and

Trump isn't going to pardon you I I think because he doesn't give a fuck I think that they still see that as the last hope for status quo Because if trump stays in he'll he'll end the muller investigation Oh, of course and if the muller investigation ends then I mean gerome course It was just subpoenaed the other day Yeah, so the like all of this looking into roger's connections and stuff like that is going to go away too Well, I mean as we all know there's no way that they catch roger with a crime

Roger would you never commit a crime roger crime? Dan if you how dare you insinuate that this A fine upstanding gentleman I don't think it comes down to roger believing trump will get his back and pardon him or anything although that may be the case The truth is that if the investigation goes away the possibility of them going to prison for the crimes being investigated goes away So yeah, one sessions is gone alex Being so worried about that, but he's worried about it for roger who opens up the door to info wars business model over the last three years So well the whole plan is once sessions is gone. Trump is going to

Find somebody who's going to end the muller investigation almost that's the there's no other way of looking at it And if cavanaugh's in then you got all the votes you need to make it so you can't get in trouble for that exactly sweet Yep Anyways guys, it was a nice Having a republic that was good stuff for a while And if you have people like chris kobos doing that, you know, all the election studies about Shirting and stuff like that. Good work. You have every reason to you know, try and really cheat You know that you know that guy who uh

Refused to recuse himself from his own recount. Isn't that weird that that guy Would want to uh, you got all you got all sorts of indications of really undemocratic behavior going on that You know, who knows if they are going to come to fruition It would be very irresponsible of us to say like this is what's happening But you got boy, you got a lot of indications of real possible trouble ahead. Well unlike alex Uh, I do not believe it is a tie ball game Uh, essentially I believe that the nazis are on the cusp of taking over america And it's really probably going to happen like I would put it at an anybody and and we need money and we don't talk about it

We're leaving off So we're the anti alex. We need we need money. We need supporters. We need you to spread the word We need you to tweet about us. No, we're just we're just fatalists. We're gonna lose I sell my I sell my blood to buy rice and uh, hey, we're gonna lose. Yeah, exactly That's our take on it. That's our take on it. So anyway, let's stop this bullshit and get back to business alex doesn't believe you as being disruptive Of course not and he compares himself to the people who were protesting The cavanaugh hearings and it's important because he does have a kernel of something

As a conspiracy in this clip, but I can explain it away very easily The swamp was absolutely horrified in dc They've had 11 hearings that I don't know with annoyed where they lie about yours truly in the first amendment And then call for the banning of conservatives nationalists and patriots across the board How about nazi so I went and spoke at the press conference. I went where the press goes to Speak to the different senators So I can face my accusers And the corporate media spun it like I was being disruptive

Meanwhile, we have video and photos on info wars.com Of george soros groups People that weren't for soros all right paying the disruptors cash In the parking lot and then video and photos of the disruptors smoking gun I caught a leftist soros bloomberg funded group 17 years ago. No, you didn't you didn't know about him 17 years ago. We know that from the 2009 alex pretty uh pretty extensively so um The issue that I have is that I looked into this on uh alex's uh alex's little website

Yeah, and they do have pictures of the people who were uh Protesting the cavanaugh hearing getting money from someone in a parking lot. Well, there you go But proof the issue is that the connections are super tenuous The reality of the situation is that there are people who had money that they were giving to these people to pay their legal fees Because they knew that these people were going to get in trouble for this And sort of a support network type of thing right, you know, hey sucks. We believe in what you believe in we want to help you Take care of the fees that you're incurring by your civil disobedience It's not a thing where they were getting thousands of dollars paid protester type shit

It was it was a thing like that now the guy uh who he's saying is soros connected is some guy who works Uh foreign organization that at one point got some funds from soros. Sure, which is the the weakest tenuous connection Like you can just you can just dance on that uh ballroom floor all day long Yeah, you know, this is a soros group giving paid protesters money But the kernel of truth is there that someone was getting money, but I think that's a du regour I think that's pretty normal in terms of like co-ops and activism I think I think that the idea of like people helping out with people's legal fees Very very normal. Yeah, that's kind of one of those big things that the civil rights movement did you remember?

Whatever stone is doing a go fund to me for his legal fees He's trying to get paid for doing Yeah, but not not but not from soros dan for you from you the viewers right or listeners or or whomever Let's not look into how if uh trump has ever gotten money from hey, hey hold on now dan dan hold on How dare you because it never happened never happened never happened. What kind of crazy person would say that dan look into that don't look into that So sleeper use a sleeper patriot alex is being disruptive for sure and he wasn't behaving in the way that journalists behave He was being uh aggressive. He was not asking questions

He was bullying and bad during marco rubio and again no sympathy to marco rubio But also he touched him like journalists don't do that. He was being a dick to a huge dick He was fuck him. He was sweaty as fuck too like that. I mean, I you know, I hate to critique people's appearances who aren't named Jerome Corsi But Alex looked wet He looked he had just run well for alex 12 feet Well, he was he was playing in the u.s. Open a short while before that they just don't they just don't aerate that building too much Arthur ash arthur ash is not well aerated dam. They need air conditioning. I beat serena williams

no chance so This next clip i'm gonna say I give I think it's bullshit But at the same time I think there's a kernel of alex having a fine point in it. So I'll give A preemptive meh meh right meh So I show up Do you when I was in the front of the usa today? Concerning jack dorsi making the personal decision not to ban me and dorsi denying it

I'm the main topic of the hearings quote fake news Hey, you just called yourself fake news, baby ship Quotes the media act like I'm weird even showing up. That's the level of their deception Now the big news obviously is trump says snakes are everywhere So I I love snakes are everywhere. I mean he's talking metaphorical, but I love the image that's in your head Everywhere, there's snakes snakes are everywhere snakes. You ever been to the white house full of snakes get these motherfucking snakes Off the white house motherfucking lawn, man So the point that I think is fair is that alex is everyone's acting like it's weird that I was there

I do think that's kind of fair like of a criticism. It doesn't make sense that he would go Yeah, so it makes perfect sense that he would go. Yeah, I don't think anybody I think it's Dalman obviously a publicity stunt and the way he behaved is unbecoming of an adult But at the same time I do get like hey, they're talking about stuff that I yell about all the time I'm gonna go. Yeah, it makes fine. It makes perfect just like him being at the inauguration Of course, he's gonna fucking be there now the part that you if you had asked us before like I didn't even Really pay attention to when this hearing was going to happen But if you'd ask me beforehand would alex be there I'd be like you bet. Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't he?

Absolutely, so the other the part that's bullshit about it though. What's that part? There's a part where it's like these hearings are mostly about me They're not no, I don't think anybody talked about him at all. I think maybe he might have come up Possibly maybe after Laura Loomer screamed in court I think it was I guess it's not court in the hearing It was really interesting for me to listen to those hearings and have them be like All the republicans after he explains algorithms. They're all like I don't know what algorithms are

And then somehow all of them were like hey, you know how people are harassing women and you're like, whoa Whoa, what are you what are you guys doing? You do not give a shit about women at all. What is going on right now? Nice try. Yeah. Come on, man. Come on, man. Do better. Yeah So um, now we get into a little bit of a portion of the show where alex is a bit Super weird He's he's laying some groundwork for a narrative that he hopes is going to blossom like uh, some sort of wonderful Tulip at dawn

Okay, uh, but he never really was gonna go with death lily, but okay He never gets to what exactly he wants to say he keep he's he's gonna tease this throughout most of the show Uh, but then he just sort of falls off in the middle of this the train goes off the rails I had stuff happen in dc and this is The big takeaway. What's the big take away that is directly out of a spy novel And i'm i'm talking to lawyers a bunch of other people about what i'm gonna do They'll either be to dare tomorrow. I talk about it for my own safety, but it is next level But muller is planning to try to frame me

Indite me and then I believe kill me ahead of Them being able uh to you actually have their kangaroo trial. That's their plan They've already tried to kill stone twice. So this is this is a big league It doesn't get any more big league than this and when they saw okay That they're totally blind politically that I could show up anywhere I want and take over When they saw how they'd taken me and built me into godzilla To frighten the left with that now when I show up, I am godzilla Hammer's about to fall my friend interesting him comparing himself to godzilla because in many ways

I think that's an apt analogy godzilla originally was a cautionary tale Uh, do you mean the result of over use of nuclear weapons and their Resulting destruction of japan that has altered and changed every part of japanese pop culture ever since then uh-huh And further just so he's kind of like a metaphor for like the wrong parts of america That sort of thing like godzilla is sort of a living embodiment of the crushing Disaster that happens to the rest of the world when america is left unchecked almost alex is kind of exactly like that Almost like the nuclear fallout of giving these people so much attention and power creates a monster that we have no control over

That then rampantly destroys everything in its path and by we it's not like I want to control alex I don't think any individual should but society should on so on some level You should just we we need to go back to a time like I'm not saying I'm not saying shut down right or anything like that. I am I know But what I am saying is we need to get to a point where like We just have no time for arguments that we've already had in the past and society has decided or distasteful We have to get to the point where it's not like just We need to I hate to say this because i'm a guy who has a dirty fucking room

Uh, I can barely afford to pay my bills. All right, but everyone needs to grow the fuck up Right, like that's that's we need to get to that point in society because Until we do we're going to be living in this like alex is godzilla and he's right Well, because he can't he can't show up anywhere and cause a huge disturbance. Right, but that's what I Know That's what I but that's what I'm saying is that I think part of this goes back to our 2009 investigation whenever The coke brothers created the tea party whole cloth That's another Godzilla

They thought that they were going to be able to control this movement and then tamp it down Whenever they were able to get their fucking tax cuts and Degradulation and everything and on all of a sudden it's gone wild and the coke brothers still don't even understand that It is their fault right that trump is there and they're like no we're against trump. You're fucking stupid And now they're probably you rich motherfucking assholes die but like I don't know alex alex this whole thing is where he's talking about like I'm living in a spy movie What happened to me when I was in dc?

I fucked an assassin He he does sort of spell out what happened, but he doesn't get into specifics and he's threatening to spill the beans Uh-oh, uh-oh, um, but he basically I think someone accused him of being a russian agent maybe but that's not boo That's not new boring. That's a narrative that he's used so many times And we have a clip of him basically admitting to be debriefed by russian intelligence So like I don't get it. He's not a russian agent. He's a patsy. Come on guys Right. He's a fucking idiot. So in this next clip alex, uh comes back from break and uh, he does what I would describe as a Decent but not good pro wrestling promo. Okay about the midterms. All right. Here we go

Also, he can't stop playing the final countdown It's a great song Which is actually a really interesting further wrinkle to this idea that he's going back to his roots and having to be forced back to His past because his original show when he was on on radio way back in the day Was called the final edition because the premise of it was this might be the last time they allow me on Nice, which was that's actually a pretty fun premise for him back then. Yes, that's great So now he's having to play the final countdown like two or three times every episode to ram this home I'm not gonna lie to you when I was in uh when I was in high school

I was a Drummer in the pet band. We fucking rocked out to the final countdown. I used to play that like a goddamn Like look, have you listened to the drums on that track? Yeah, you haven't listened to me do it, buddy Because I fucking go wild I'm more into the synth I don't even I don't even know if anybody else was playing during that song because I went wild So I it is fun though because on this specific instance This is the final edition Much like our live show in austin we went over the last time he was broadcast on kjfk

This is the last time he's broadcast on twitter k lbj Yeah, k lbj. Yeah, kjfk was the old station that he was on and that was the one that killed jfk well k lbj came in and killed kjfk Put him out of business perfect So, uh, you know in the same way that like this this episode is kind of an analog to that because unknowingly This is the last time he's going to be able to ever broadcast on periscope. Yeah, so It is fun. This is the final countdown alex and you you're finally appropriate in playing this song. Bye. Bye, bitch Now only 61 days for the most important election in world history

And I look at trump that bull at life Surrounded by all the hyenas and all the liars and all the scum like hillary clinton And robert moeller dishonorable evil wicked people with so many crimes so many wars So many child kidnapping rings so much narcotics trafficking under their belt And you see trump out there with all his morals and all his strength

Things like a north star to bring this country back and they put out all these Lies and all this propaganda to try to turn you against him as they push for the 25th amendment to be implemented To remove him now before the midterms because kavanaugh is going to get confirmed And there's going to be a huge red wave despite the election fraud and all the people voting in the names of dead people And they're now in full panic mode That red wave is going to be women's blood on the streets Who die trying to get illegal abortions. Yeah. No, don't worry about it. Yeah, it's not like

Reconstitutive policy will wind up getting women killed dan That's a crazy thing to think to just go down the line of conservative policies and think holy cow Every single one of these will get more women killed. That would be ridiculous an entire party can't be based entirely Upon fucking hurting and killing women dan that would never fly It's also immigrants and uh, you know minorities that them too that also their blood will also be a part of the red wave That alex is envisioning. Of course. That's dark as hell and i'm sorry. I took us there, but I I mean it gets you charged a little bit, you know, like that final countdown the drums kick in And i'm gonna tell you this is where I switched it up, man

This is when you use the bell on the ride symbol you do a syncopated rhythm with ever with a bunch of 16th notes You add in a little bit of a Drum roll on your left hand. It's fucking great stuff quote young jeezy produced by manny fresh. I love it There you go. I'm a ride till I die. All right And everyone tells me to get a job. I already got a job. Let's stay in alive I love young jeezy Anyway, young jeezy's better than manny fresh all those things he was talking about are all hot bullshit. Yeah, there it's it's it's you know Hmm

There's a there's a weird sort of wrestling metaphor here all of those Things that he said in that last one like minute long clip Where all the things that he's built to throughout the last, you know year six months Certainly ramping a lot of some of the particular things up over the last couple months Which he what he's doing he's building towards the midterms, which is essentially his pay-per-view. You know, yeah So all of this are like they're they're the the feuds Between between wrestlers right like each one like dead people voting. That's one of the feuds that he's built up

Yeah, sold it to his audience and the payoff is going to be whenever he claims that That had a factor in the midterms, which funny enough a republican politician was caught Signing up dead people to vote for yeah, never mind. Look into that. No, don't look into it That was also by the way me trying way too hard to make a wrestling analogy. I'd like to apologize for it So, uh, you're okay. He claimed in that last clip that uh, robber mewler is a criminal Yep A lot of crimes in his past got some crimes up there and I I don't want to not have that conversation But I'd like to have it on better terms than uh, alex saying this about him

And it shows that they are going for broke. They are mad dog I mean that guy on screen if you're a tv viewer delivered re uranium To the russians for hillary to do the rain transfers of 25 percent of our And then he tells us that trump's a russian agent I understand the barking but also what he's doing there is he's conflating two of his narratives two of his propaganda narratives And it's like, hey man, even a good conspiracy theorist needs to know that these aren't connected. Yeah, robert mewler brought uranium to russian Authorities on the request of both governments. It was uranium that was confiscated from people who got caught with it. Yep, and it was a

What do you call it a mutual investigation on the russian intelligence and the united states intelligence's behalf So it was a diplomatic agreement to Do the best and work together not fucking around. Yeah in a very serious circumstance. Yeah find somebody who has uranium It's it's very relevant. So the idea that he went and was on a tarmac with uranium That's the context of it. He was in the context in the auspices of a very legitimate international investigation The uranium one thing we talked about ad nauseam with clinton. That's bullshit, but it's not even related to this So when he's bringing in like he went there with the uranium on the tarmac for clinton to give the 25 percent of the uranium to the russians It's like this isn't those are you got to separate them to quote the offspring keep them separated. Sorry

But you know what you know i'm saying? Yes, you have to do better even if your goal is to be a propagandist in the conspiracy theories. That's not good enough No, that he might as well toss in literally every uranium narrative that he's got and say that it was all done Like if you just look yeah, if you just if you just start saying that uh, he was near uranium one time So now everything that i've ever said about being near uranium is involving him right? You're you're undercutting your own conspiracy theory in a way that other conspiracy theorists would be like Dude, you're you're making us look bad. It's clunky. It's real real clunky. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I don't know I just think that you know who killed jfk uranium 9 11

That's who did it and who also worked in the government at the time of 9 11 Eric holder bob moeller. Oh no, and Eric holder probably You know what I learned the other day I learned that jim comey was the prosecutor in the case against martha stewart Really? I don't know if that's true That can't possibly be true. He's never worked as a lawyer. Yes. He does has he yeah as a prosecutor. Yeah. Yeah as a state prosecutor For new york. Yeah, let me look this up Why would you say that because I read it?

Why would you say that ever if that wasn't true? That's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory I've ever heard I think it is true. I mean if it's not true I read it in so I found bob chapman. Is that why trump fired him? I I found bob chapman's uh Newsletter and I've been reading over them. I've learned a lot of very interesting things about his feelings about different races Not great for everybody who's non-white. I'll tell you that it is true It is true. It is true james comey prosecuted martha stewart back in the day So he was the he was the lead prosecutor federal prosecutor. He's the lead prosecutor and well then you know what?

I'm kind of glad he got fired. Yeah, absolutely How dare you how dare you she did a little bit of insider trading. Is that a crime leave her alone? Oh, we know it is a crime. He also Bob chapman is like this is bullshit. She's gonna we predict that she's gonna get off and then like a couple months later obstruction of justice Yeah, it is interesting though that jim comey was the prosecutor on that's very wild. That's such a weird Like in in 10 years whenever our history books are burned and then in 100 years whenever the fish people rewrite our history books It's gonna be a nice little factoid that the guy who

Trump legitimately Obstructed justice with right was also the one who prosecuted martha stewart. Is that obstruction of justice? Yeah, like in a in a textbook they have those like here's the main story and then there's that tiny little box with like a did you know That's fun. That's a fun fact. It is it is fun also fun in that same newsletter bob chapman is defending roi moore about About his uh, uh, his crusade to keep the 10 commandments up at the uh kill him Kill him. It's very weird to hear these like, uh, these like very current players in different contexts in his newsletter How is how is joe arpaio not dead yet? I don't know, but he didn't lose that race, which is great

So he didn't lose the white race. I'll tell you that right now. He seemed to win that So, um, I told you earlier that alex, uh, when he was talking about this thing that happened to him Dc I tilted my cards a little bit too early because I forgot that there's this clip of him sort of describing it This isn't gonna make it any clearer. Okay They've had 11 hearings that I know of I'm always finding new ones in the last year and a half saying I'm a russian agent I'm a racist

Yep, I'm fake news That I say nobody died at uh parkland in florida never said that You know, they can out of context twist that on on the sandy hook Nope, so what are they gonna do? They're gonna frame you up twitter And that's what they're planning to do 100 confirmed They tried to do it to me yesterday And I was just

Polaxed Polaxed, I mean, I couldn't believe the nature of a word a day calendar And the folks that did this they don't think I'm not gonna go public. I mean, oh, yeah Let that fuse be lit Politically, you don't know when that's gonna go sky. I do you Politically probably the next three hours So like I said, I don't know how this all gonna end but you want to fight You better believe you got one. All right, alex

This is so lame. Cool, dude. Yeah, I swear. I bet polaxed polaxed. That is somehow I know I know it's not but at the same time my first thought is like Do you also hate polish people? Are you calling them polax? You know, they're polaxed polaxed. They have some good inventions Those those polish the polax It's it's that that was theirs I'm looking I'm looking this up here Polax, you don't know what a polax is. Do you? Yeah, it's a it's a very long. It's the verb Oh, it just means that he got stabbed with a polax

Yeah, that is it. Yeah, what do you mean? What else would it be? I kind of thought that it might be some sort of like archaic language for like I was flummoxed or something like that No, yeah, it means to be with a polax as as you as you well know to be flummoxed is to experience flummox Or to be hit with a flum A flum axe, please absolutely What did you think polaxed? I thought you know the the word parallax came into my mind

I thought it was some like not connected word But I was like right that sounds like it could be some sort of old-time word that no one uses anymore No, I get that like like non-plussed or something. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get that There's some there It may be some sort of like word that he knows that no one else uses right Or he has a lot of those in his in his catalog. That's true in the same way in his calendar more like yeah In the same way that like Lovecraft always use uses eldritch. Yeah eldritch is a great word though Right, but it could I felt like alex might have that like just pulled out polax

And he's ever played d&d knows well what eldritch means dan right But Lovecraft used it too much We can all agree on that not true disagree Anyway, uh that aside um I would say that this idea that someone came up to and was like, hey, I'm gonna Let loose that you're a russian agent or something like that. Uh-huh. I don't think that's a big story He's gonna let loose with an eldritch polax. Right, right

I don't think that that's like I don't believe first of all I don't I don't believe his telling of this and the second I don't believe his his version of like I'm going to reveal something about someone accusing me of being a russian agent Right because he's already revealed about that all the time like we said already on this on this same episode He's yelled about that forever people accuse me of being a russian agent all the time Yeah, yeah, it's very much one of his uh like main narratives. So Well, what could you reveal? What could you reveal about somebody? Already feel I know

The interview that he did on rt where he got tricked into talking to russian intelligence No, I mean to reveal I mean about a person who is Saying that you're a russian agent Oh, I like that they're a russian agent maybe Maybe or or some sort of like blackmail or something like that Yeah, maybe that that comes to mind possibly but I don't think anyone in any legitimate position would do that Yeah, why would you blackmail? He's a really bad blackmail target. Yeah, he's so oppositional defiant

He's so narcissistic and he can't keep his mouth shut. Yeah, you make any kind of threat against him He's just kidding yell about it. This guy thinks he's gonna blackmail me by saying that I fucked three women During the time that I've been married to my wife while she's pregnant. You think that bothers me She knows you guys don't know we haven't understand Didn't you realize that I called trump a bull? Do you know what that means in the swinger community? I watch him fuck my wife He's a bull That's what I do

Cuck He is a cuck so Oh, man Are you all right? You're all right. Yeah, I'm all right This was that wasn't even the the cheap champagne. That was uh, the the the beer No, the issue was I took a small drink right about when you started on your ramp. I got a little laugh in my my uh My throat you shouldn't make me laugh. That's good. I enjoy. I enjoy my Still diminished cap capability to make you laugh. Yeah, do strongly

So, um I already I already mentioned that it's my standing position and and I'm not just taking uh twitter at its word I watched the entire video of his attack on uh, oliver darcy, which is what it must be classified as I think it was it was very hard to watch You know like just first of all because of the length 10 minutes is too long And then second because he had nowhere to go with it. So we just kept insulting his appearance and kept being Like a little baby. Did he call him cupcake too? No, because he's not a woman. Yeah, so um It was tough and I do believe that that's one of the reasons he's in trouble now

Now I don't think this next clip is going to make things better because this is the next day after he's already back in the safe home of austin Uh in his studio And they have total The stain for you and your family, it's like the oliver darcy guy who has someone's evil But not evil in a powerful way like the most pathetic dishonest eyes just they just ooze betrayal and weakness and and and and just just a little bit a very effeminate type of people But it's not effeminate. It has that twistedness when it's in a man's eyes

what and Just someone totally turned over To to deception going I never said take you off. No one ever took you off. You've not been taken off anything Just that that enjoyment like Marco Rubio said you don't exist. I don't know who you are As if denying I exist gives him some power. That's what they do Alex you might be insane Have you considered that? Only other person that looks more evil is Brian Stelter

And then you ask why do they hire these guys because that's who they are the executives like it So you can already I mean you You responded almost entirely accurately that like hey, maybe you're nuts And the reason that you should have that response is that like when he talks about his interaction with Marco Rubio All he wants to talk about is how like He said he didn't know who I am. He's trying to pretend. I don't exist. Yeah, it's all this like Insecurity that he's manifesting and projecting into the world Whereas like I I think that Marco Rubio probably does know who Alex Jones is might not have recognized him

Right and the way Alex Jones was acting certainly deserved to who are you? That's absolutely a deserved response, right? Alex Jones interpreted as an Unpersoning of himself like I don't exist like I don't exist to you You think that you can just make me not exist by not knowing who I am Well, no Alex you're misinterpreting the way people interact, but that's kind of I I I believe him That's that's why I think he's insane because I believe don't don't don't don't worry about it. No, there's he's insane No, no, no, I mean I believe that he believes that those guys said those things Yeah, I believe that he hear he heard those things in what they said even though they didn't say it like he is

He's a person he's got auditory hallucinations. No, I don't think it's that I think that he has no ability to differentiate between subjective and objective experiences You know, like there's a lot of the times I feel slighted by people I had to wrestle with this a whole bunch when I was doing stand-up like back in the years I did stand up. I thought people didn't like me because they weren't booking me Or because they didn't treat me the way I would like people to treat me, right? And it took a while in the being a part of this world for me to recognize like They are just doing their own thing. They're they're responding to me exactly how they should right they didn't book me because I didn't ask to get

Booked I'm not on their radar because I don't hang out with them. Yeah, it makes total sense But I'm projecting my subjective experience and pretending it's an objective experience So when alex has this run in with marco rubio His subjective experience of it is he's trying to pretend I don't exist and all this shit and the reality is the objective experiences marco's just trying to do his interview and alex is bullying and trying to make it about himself Yeah, and marco rubio is trying to bring it back to stand up Treat it like a heckler and he's not good at dealing with hecklers. No, so he lets alex jones kind of win and get his

yeah Anti steve hofstetter clip ladies and gentlemen. I it looks like my dad came to the show. All right guys Let's continue this interview. That might have been better. That would have been hilarious. Oh my god If he just turned into a hack comedian for two seconds, man, that's been great I mean if it was me first of all, I wouldn't be marco rubio, but secondly if I was in that situation I mean the first thing I I'm I'm a very strong supporter of this Like you need if alex jones comes in and fucks with you like let's say we ever have a live show or anything like that

You have to be welcoming to him because that's the worst thing that you can possibly do to him He can't handle the idea of people actually accepting him. Yeah, especially people who he wants to attack So you accept him. You just like yay. Hey, how's it going? That sort of thing. Yeah, that throws him off his uh his game So that's your first strategy. My my strategy. Yeah. Yeah. No continue your second strategy is whenever he brings up something You maybe don't know about or anything like that. But oh, that's interesting. Tell me more about that Get him to talk more about the headlines that he knows and eventually you'll get to the point where he sounds like a fucking idiot Let him take himself thirdly that doesn't work Go to the fucking the way is to put him on the defensive which are super simple

There are very There's a ton of things that we found over the course of doing this podcast that I wish everyone knew about that You could just throw at him things like hey, Alex when you were six. Did your mom throw you off her knee and say you don't get Could you talk more about that? That would be that would be a more fun version of stand-up if you thoroughly researched everyone who heckled you Well, because you could be You could present the face of empathy and be like that sounds really awful How did you experience that and he would have no idea how to deal with that. Tell me about you, Alex

Are you okay? Do you feel comfortable with your life? Right? And it you know, I think that those are the ways you could deal with him, uh, but I don't know. I don't know why I don't know where we jumped off onto this this, uh, this road, but Let's get back on track. Okay. Uh, I guess my bigger point is that I don't know my bigger point is I've never I've never been a fan of the comedian destroys heckler videos Like my my dream has always been to have a video where it's like Comedian comes to terms with heckler and they both leave his friends That was always my strategy

Yeah Like to the point where I even like I put up with so much from hecklers that no one should like I don't know how to tell this story without using horrible language I might not might not want to tell this story Okay, I I'll try okay, so I got on stage one time I don't know if I've told you this story, but the audience certainly doesn't know it. Yeah, absolutely. No I got on stage. Uh, I was I don't know maybe featuring on some terrible bar show You were a baby comic. No, I was I was I was great. You were well established at this fairly established

No one no one really in my world except you were considered an unstoppable comedic force I was on the come. I was uh, you know, I was one of those uh on the rise kind of that's an expression So trump trump was your bull, right? So I uh, I'm I'm brought on stage Everyone has had a bad set up till this point. Yeah room is not doing so great I get on stage and this guy just says uh, it throws uh, you're an f the gasler Yes, I hadn't said anything right on stage good start. I just got on stage This guy had not yelled at anybody else. So now I'm completely confused interesting and he I had a big beard and he's like Are you a lead singer of mastodon?

Like that's a weirdly specific heckle. All right Um, I'm like, I'm not but I you know, I got some you know, I'm tell some jokes up here if you know If you want to hear them and he's like You're an f he does it again I'm like, all right. So at that point I'm like Everything's over. This is now the show Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, how are you doing like because I'm like, I gotta I gotta diffuse this It's oh, yeah, there's no there's no way to escape it. Yeah. So I'm like, how are you doing the guy's like, hey, you're an f

You want to see my dick? And without missing a beat I say yes, absolutely I think everyone in this bar would love to see your dick because I thought maybe that would be like Ah, shit. He called my bluff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah guy pulls his dick out. What he stands up starts doing the helicopter with his At me. All right. And so I'm like, sir that is I give your dick a C Something along those lines I'm not sure exactly. Yeah, something that was like not a super burn But at the same time not a compliment

And then everything got kind of hazy because the bartender came out and like sort of grabbed him and threw him out of the bar Oh, yeah, because he committed a crime But I got so because he's now on the sex offender registry. I got so bummed out because I was like, well I mean, where do I go from here? My jokes? No, the guy just pulled his fucking dick out and did the helicopter move in the middle of this Bar yeah, it was gonna happen. He was probably gonna get on stage with his dick out and then he'd get arrested That would have at least had fun with that. We could have had fun with that. Yeah, so that's what I wish Marco ruby Hey Alex I want to see your dick. I mean, I you know that that is the the best

Maybe not the best way, but that's the best way that would have been a good way to deal It's a good way to deal with him like an abrasive heckler because like what are you gonna do? At the very least would have been a more fun headline Marco Rubio wants to see Alex Jones's dick Well, Alex Jones is the metaphorical guy who's pulling out his dick. He's an aggressive heckler in that situation Yeah, the only thing you can do is kind of seed the floor to them and work with it from there the idea of like You know, who are you is is is fine, right? If you don't have chops, but it's not gonna get you where you want to go If you are a comedian listening to this Don't take our advice. We're not successful. Maybe try doing one of those comedians

Yeah, maybe try doing one of those key comedian destroys heckler videos. Those seem to be popular So in this next clip because he's a fucking lunatic. He's crazy. Yeah, so in this next clip Alex talks a little bit about donald trump, right and he says something that is absolutely not true I let him fuck my wife in front of me Fortune favors the bold So That's the song right I am so honored to stand with president from

Stamina the energy smarty is gross and then you read the news and it's he's weak. He's stupid. He's racist He is all of those things southerners I don't know that's no tapes of any of it all complete garbage All right I mean the southerners part is just based on that book that's coming out. Yeah by woodward, which I mean he's uh

Well, we'd call credible Yeah, uh sort of as a career. He's probably got some benefit of the doubt coming to him. Yeah I would say just at least a little bit He's one of those people hasn't really destroyed their own reputation like sci-hersh has right Alex seems to love him. He's got a few black marks on his reputation But the body of work suggests that he should be given a Gold star for credibility and I'm not saying that the things that he's reporting are actually true. I have no fucking idea But it does sound

Kind of like the guy I know. Yeah Right. Yeah, and all that other stuff and the guy's surrounding trump all that other stuff like that. He's dumb and racist like we can prove that Oh, yeah, no, that's not hard. You don't need the new stuff to prove that I mean you just go back to his central park five comments Yeah, oh, you're a racist and then you just listen to him talk. You're like, oh, you're dumb. Oh, this is very very dumb Yeah, so or like the criminal case against him Obstructing justice should should just be like a cardboard cutout of his tweets Like, oh, yeah. No, he did that but Jordan his stamina his stamina. You know what? I'm not gonna lie to you

I would give him credit for stamina. I don't care No, of course not go fuck and he can go fuck himself and die But I you know what anybody who can wake up at 4 a.m. And go to bed at like one old people have weird schedules They have They've weird circadian rhythms. I You know, he's uh, he should die of uh, uh all kinds of diseases that are fucked directly into his face by a biker But that's fine. It is cholesterol. Yeah but like, uh

The the thing is like when you are coming up with like this guy's stamina is off the charts That's like saying he's a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. Is he funny? He's a good guy Hey, hey, no, no, no, no. He killed eight people. But let me tell you something He won the boston marathon. He really did. He's really nice. Can't argue with that. Really nice. Oh, he's such a good guy to me That's the equivalent when you're like you're digging so deep to be like that's stamina. Yeah I don't give a fuck about it. Sure. That's what I wanted a president dan stamina staying power. Yeah Ability to stay on a treadmill. I don't believe that at all. I want him to be able to fuck my wife for a while He's a bull. I need it. I need a bull dan

So jordan in this next clip alex explains why he's the target of the globalists And i'd say i mean he's got it nailed Yeah, yeah, he's right. Okay hollywood elite moving into zealand info wars.com Or james cameron moves to new zealand Uh to avoid info wars.net a weapon release That's the real reason See, there's a leftist global plan that once they collapse the third world and scare the first world enough

They're gonna let it enough to create political division Sure About a hundred million in europe a hundred million in the u.s. Then they're gonna build giant walls. Trump isn't part of this He likes to build a wall. They're gonna build the walls later What bringing total biometric so we gotta build the wall first counter the collapsing third world And then they're gonna release a bio weapon That's gonna wipe out The first round two or three billion people

First round and then once they get a real hyper police stayed in after that Then they'll uh Deliver the true super weapons sure and then when we get to the round of 16 retired to their Labyrinthine palaces that's the semi-finals kill each other, but they've got to have automated Military forces and drone forces to carry out suppression and mop ups for some computer models they've got That uh human directed forces

And by that people directed for a pro human future I would be able to basically understand the plan even once it was launched and then run a countervailing system that would then Remove the planetary cleansing operation that they are preparing So the real reason i'm verboten Is because there is a planetary cleansing operation prepared to reduce world population by 99 Hey, alex. It's getting late. I want to go to bed. Can you leave? I know I know you're real comfortable on that couch, but Man that feels a lot like Bad conversations. I've had in the past. I really don't know what the fuck he's talking about

I don't even know what his words mean in the context that he's being countervailing What what are you talking about? Well, that's like there's fucking stupid. There's one side that's pushing this way You need a countervailing force in order to push back in the other way Sure, that's what that's that's what that means sure walk me through what you don't understand I'd love to clear this up for you because he makes total sense all of it and start from the beginning James Cameron That's enough. That's that's where we jump off right there. That's where i'm out James Cameron leads to 99 of the world's population being destroyed. Yeah, it's quick a to b to see what's that? What's that leave?

7 million 70 70 million people. I'm not sure exactly on the math, but I will still a lot But it's not not nearly enough for like a world to work. You know what i'm saying? It's plenty so if that were to be the case then every elite Yeah, who survives right would then need a pilot Yeah, or or they'd have to be pilots themselves. Yeah, oh they all have to be pilots also They'd need ways to find food Not gonna lie to you if I were rich, I think I would become a pilot that sounds fucking dope

You know what that you know what the real issue is what the world that alex jones Pretends that the globalists want is so Worse for the globalists than the current state affairs pretty much You know what I mean like the idea of how difficult it would be to just eat and for the globalists in that scenario Right because they could hoard a ton of food, but then what happens when that food runs out Well, jim baker is there to fill the hole Globalists aren't eating that shit It's garbage the world we live in now let jiff bezos gain

150 billion dollar whatever fucking amount whatever unreal amount of money he has Why would he want the world to be different right? That's insane all this works incredibly well what he's describing Is what climate change is going to do to humanity? That's interesting. It's he's literally just his his version of what the globalists want to do is actually what the globalists Are doing that is going to happen because everyone is ignoring the reality of climate change It's bananas. Yeah, there may be something we're fucked. Yep I don't even know why we're worried about fascism in america I would be fine with fascism in america if it actually addressed climate change because then we would at least have a fucking time to

Solve the fucking issue. You better not be okay. Of course. I'm not okay with it But it did look look if it got if it came to it, right? If we were going to write a history book if trump Completely took over the united states and turned it into a fascist fucking state But then but then he fucking went hog wild and solved climate change at least 100 years from now We would be able to solve and we'd be able to stop fascism and he would be remembered as a weird ass fucking monster hero It'd be crazy. He's not gonna do it He's only gonna he's only going to succeed in creating fascism

Which after climate change fucking destroys all of the world's population By forcing so many people to move out of their goddamn home Crazy creating an even larger refugee crisis, which will then of course lead to more fucking Nazi fascist rising or it's gonna be fucked I kind of look at it the opposite way and maybe just because we're a glass half full glass half empty kind of We're we're mostly a glass. We're we're guffas and galant. You know, you know me wait Uh, I'm go I'm guffas aren't I no you're galant. No, you know, I'm guffas. I'm kind of both both dare you

But I kind of look at it with sort of a positive way that like at this point I think climate change is probably inevitable and we should work towards ways to mitigate the damage But I honestly think that there's a decent chance that it might save us Climate change. Well, a lot of people are going to die definitely and that's not good But we're we're not going to go extinct, you know, and and no, I don't know the rising tide of right-wing fascism that we see around the world and nationalistic Real awful very scary stuff going on. No, no, it's fine But a lot of that stuff I think will be nipped in the bud by the global emergency that comes from

What climate change brings there's a decent possibility that you see it as like that will exacerbate the The troubles of the uh, the well nazis I think that there's a decent chance that humanity will say stand up and say like Enough is enough people are struggling. Let's fucking get to business. That's the that's and i'm wrong. That's the uh manufactured alien Invasion is going to bring humanity together of climate change, but except it's but it's not manufactured No, I I I know I'm just saying that it's carbon texas like it like anytime we talk about

Uh, how people ultimately help each other in any kind of crisis, right? I'm banking on a little bit of that And I know in that argument it makes a lot of sense, but when you start seeing large populations move We all go fucking shit apes shit and we don't you and I don't of course, of course, we don't go Don't Yeah, but they didn't just perform a coup and Control all three facets of american government, right, right But a lot of which we should we should really how have we not fucking just started the the the

Leaching is that with the way I would put it without a violent overtones. I don't know what you're trying to express I'm just saying that maybe one of the ways to solve the disease of nazis is with a little bloodletting Maybe get a little better You're dangerously close to territory. We can't abide by I would never say anything like that. Anyway, politically Politically, I say it in reality. I would like to just say also that my argument about climate change is probably wrong and and You know what but blue sky think it is blue sky thinking and it may be like anytime we've seen It's definitely how I would respond to things but again, I I'm not everybody But there are enough people who have empathy that guides them. I think I know but I just feel like empathy is what makes us lose

Yep anyway This is a clip that I considered sending to alex's ex-wife Yeah, because in the middle of this show here on this thursday episode after he had gone to Uh, Washington DC. We should send it to martha stewart. He says something really really fucked up about how he interacts with his kids Oh, no, that's not good. And I I don't you know, it's not my business I'm not gonna send it to her because anyone wants to let her know You know, you know how our our

Wonderful beautiful listeners would never do that. She deserves to know this I guess but she probably already knows You get to the point where you got to tell your kids I got to go to school this morning Someday your daddy's not gonna be here. You just need to be good people and be strong and stick up for each other Do what's right Okay, dad come to that point You got to pick me up at 3 30. You're already starting to say bye to your kids You know how close we are to midnight folks But you know what it makes you want to do it even more because we're facing true

unadulterated pure evil Is that why you didn't make us a sack lunch? He's terrorizing his kids with his Yeah, pretty wasted worldview. Yeah the idea that he's dropping them off at school and like insinuating that he's going to die Hey kids Listen, I hope you have a good day at school. Uh, I know your math teacher has been riding you pretty hard lately But that's really immaterial compared to the fact that you're about to lose your father Anyways, the next time your math teacher is like, oh, you didn't do well on this test Just be like Robert Mueller is going to murder my dad

Should probably get you a pass. Isn't that the plot of a movie? That's a really really insane thing. Yeah, that's probably not It's insane the idea that he's saying that to his kids And it's insane that he's saying it on air as if it somehow gives him a boost of like This is real. Look at how great I am Don't I tell my kids that I'm going to die every day or at least heavily imply it to the point where it's going to Fuck with them for the rest of their lives Sylvia Plats kids turned out. All right, right? Don't think so So earlier alex called trump a bowl said he was super glad that he's hanging out with him

This is when somebody posts in the group that sylvia plats kids have Amazing lives right one of them turned out to be martha steward who got talking prosecuted by jim comey The other one turned out to be jim comey. That'd be a great. That would be a great fun fact Um, so here alex talks more about how thrilled he is that he's with trump roger and I have never been more alive Trump's never been more alive Look at him. That's a lion right there on your screen. I am so Thankful to god and my ancestors

And then I knew in my gut to line up with that guy right there. You didn't it took you forever It took you months in your gut You thought he was a con man and a front man for consortiums on the east coast you dumb prick. What are you talking about? Anyway And I tell you wherever this train's going. I'm on it I'm going on this train to george everybody knows it and trump's gaining in the polls Even the fake ones. We're breaking their corrupt will right now. You're about to see their maximum push But I think if the democrats and deeps take it their hands on a nuke they're gonna try to nuke trump Or crash the stock market you could just shoot him because they want to crash it before they kill him or a movie or drug him

They could give him something to make him, you know have a heart attack too I just pray for president trump pray for info wars pray for roger stone And don't great products you need. I need you to go I need you to sign up for auto ship on fish oil and Ship that fish oil you son of a bitch auto ship that fish oil. They're about to nuke trump. We're all gonna die They're gonna russ nuke pray for us pray for the wait. They're gonna nuke him. How do you nuke a person? I mean, this isn't new. That's something you said before. I know but that's a small nuke. It's so stupid

Is that a bunker buster? Is that what they want to call? They're gonna nuke him also. Oh, man. I need money How do you nuke trump? I mean it would involve not just him be it A shit ton of people. Well, what is are there any targeted nukes that only have the capability to kill one guy? No, are you sure? Yeah. Okay by virtue of the fact they're nukes. Okay. I think you could poison someone with like nuclear material Certainly, Alex is pretending. There you go. Alex has pretended that roger stone had plowed a lady in poison. That's what they're gonna do So, I mean, there's that that's not new lady. Um, yeah Anyway, speaking of the devil

The tricky devil roger stone roger stone is gonna show up He can't be here. Um, so in this clip They're talking about that op-ed that was published anonymously the uh, i'm inside the campaign or the the you know the administration, but i'm cool No time for that. Uh, that kind of op-ed I understand why the new york times would publish it, but hey not interested got a lot of clicks, didn't it new york times? Yep. Hey, did it do anything? Are you providing any fucking value? No, you're just providing a fucking bullshit source To lie in fucking. I don't even care if it's 100 percent true That's a self-serving piece of shit trying to assuage his conference is conscious in a way that you should not allow

They should have received that and been like, fuck you put your name on this or go home and cry like a little bitch Oh, you're trying to save the country. Well at the same time you're letting everyone fucking die Oh, fuck yourself. No time for it. Anyways, great job new york times. But it's doing great work This might roger stone shows up and he uh speculates wildly about who he thinks uh wrote that Uh, and it's possible if this new york times editorial isn't a total fraud That it was written by a lane shall for example the red chinese operative who was married to the Majority leader, uh, and who was the longest serving member of the george w bush cabinet Why you would appoint such a person is an odd question or maybe it's john huntsman

Who could really trashed donald trump uh during the presidential campaign god roger wrote it To you guess rush up. No, I think that the the soft coup is in full gear now Uh, this is why they're going after you. It's why they're going after me But we're not important is donald trump. They're going after and this bullet is aimed at his head I say god. I wish retorically. Yeah god. I wish so um my my bigger issue is like you don't know shit roger You're just talking shit. Yep. This is just nonsense. He's like maybe it's a lane chow. Maybe it's huntsman I bet it's holder could be anybody could be anybody So it's just like hey anybody who I think might not be cool with trump. Let's cast a little bit of uh

Suspicion their way alex is uh his narrative on it is even more crazy Yeah, I don't have a clip of this but his version of it is that it's a professional writer for the new york times Okay using a composite Of leakers so like nick masters Like all the old leakers rates previous. Do you know what's crazy? I would actually buy that more than No, like I if if I wanted couldn't do that. No, of course not, but if I was a fiction writer Yeah, I would write

Essentially the same thing but like there's no difference between fiction reality at this point. Why not the issue comes down to like The new york times knows who that person is. Do they yes Well, then what the fuck are they doing? You don't they're betraying our entire fucking country by doing this. No Fuck off. They're holding up journalistic standards. If someone has a journalistic anonymity as a source You protect that. I think that's a very important thing. You don't publish that bullshit is what you don't do You don't publish it if you don't know who the person is. Yeah, you don't publish it You don't publish it if you do know who the person is and they refuse to put their name on it I'm not going to I kind of agree with you there

But once it's published, they can't tell you who it is I stand by that cowardly. That's that's no no no journalism works. No, I understand that but we don't live in a journalism works time Journalism doesn't work now The only reason I brought it up is because I do know That the new york times knows who wrote that Yeah, op-ed. It's anonymous to the public. It's not anonymous to them. Uh-huh. So now The only reason I'm re-bringing that up is because roger stone

Likes to play with the idea of anonymity. Okay, and he does so in this next year. Here we go So now we have the phony new york times anonymous editorial. By the way, I have an editorial phony coming up at stone cold truth It's anonymous, but it's from a senior official at the clinton foundation Who says that hillary held the women down while bill rape them. It's just as credible as the new york times It's anonymous, of course, but we stand by it Cool, man. That's that's actually pretty funny. He fucking knows that he knows all this shit, too That's a solid. That's a solid move on his part. Yeah, I'm gonna give him credit for that Just trying to dance on the dance floor. I wrote an anonymous op-ed about how

Uh Everything I've ever said is true is true. It's an anonymous lead But it's as true as any anonymous thing that's ever been written. Yeah, it's not how it works No, I I know but that's not a terrible move right But you understand that all the things that you're expressing about journalistic integrity may be being moot now He's abusing people who feel that way. He's abusing that mentality that more or less you were expressing in that last clip Or there wasn't a clip. It was our conversation Hmm

That's the reason why it's important for journalism outlets who hold themselves to a certain standard To follow that standard because people don't like roger stone. Now. He's just he's just talking shit He's he doesn't have some sort of op-ed that he's actually going to publish. That's just him talking shit having fun But alex does do stuff like that right all the time. He has his uh, uh, zack who comes on right and and spills bullshit I really don't I don't know if I concur with your evaluation of my stance on that

my stance on that was Fuck whoever wrote that anonymous op-ed. No, no, no, and then publish their name I don't understand what it is. You think that I was saying there It's oh, do you do you mean the equal and opposite reaction being that me Saying that we should do what they're doing there Time out. Okay. Sorry You just said Uh that I did not understand you and then you elaborated

Fuck the person who wrote it and publish their name. Yeah, I agree with the first part. I don't agree with the second part Okay And that's what I keep coming back to I keep trying to argue that they made an agreement not to they The other option is don't agree to it And then don't print it which I would also be fine with But they chose to go that direction as we know Because it got them tons of clicks and it got a ton of traffic and all that stuff and god bless them

I apologize if my if my uh, uh position wasn't made clear My position was my position was double cross the double the double crosser No, but they're that's that's my position that guy is writing an anonymous op-ed saying that I apologize. Don't gender. I'm not gonna gender specific again. I think it's mike pence, but the My it's not him. I don't give a fuck uh It is not like We should make up bullshit or or anything like that

It is that if you are working with a known bad faith operator Then and he says oh, I agree to anon it. I'm gonna write this op-ed As long as you print it anonymously that guy's a fucking double crosser double cross the shit out of him He's writing it in bad faith. Then you act in bad faith. You don't know that guy. You don't know that I don't care fine You will never be a journalist then I'm not trying to be a journalist. No, I I'm trying to stop this Actually, I'm not I'm just doing this show with yelling. I'm just a piece of shit too. That's fine. No, fuck me. I get it No, I agree. No, like your position is trash though. I mean like I don't

I get the emotional part of it and I agree with that. But the position is garbage. Like yes, okay, absolutely The like fuck the person who wrote it. Yeah, we can agree on that. We don't need to talk about it anymore, right? Double cross them. Absolutely. No. Oh, absolutely. No Why not? Because you do irreparable damage to yourself as a journalist. How? Because you now I've burned a source And that source is in the trump administration. Who gives a fuck so fucking what it doesn't mean it doesn't The thing that I would I would say is that Where it

At what point you're gonna draw the line of like, okay, this person deserves me to Disrespect the agreement that we have made with them. Where are you going to draw that line? Um and for what reason right no, I I and that's that's an argument that I completely accept But then that's the whole that's the whole agreement though. That's that's the whole conversation However, here's my here's my argument against that, right? Uh, so you burn the source in the white house you reveal that you have no compunction on Taking down this motherfucker and what if it was pens so then now pens is gone

What are you gonna what who gives a fuck right now your argument your argument then is now Sources within the white house can no longer trust the new york times Who gives a fuck or your argument is that sources in the future from other places now have to be concerned With whether or not the new york times is gonna burn them based upon a moral decision that they make And that's bullshit because it's the new york fucking times What are they gonna do? What are you saying? I'm saying that what are what are you what are you talking about the new york times burns a source of This magnitude of this level and then people in the future are gonna not talk to the new york times

Maybe not Then why what the new york times has a 100 year history of not doing Exactly what it is. We're talking about right and the one time that they take a stand Means it matters so much more Means it is a real thing means that it is not a capricious act. It is not a An act that is taken lightly means that this is a national fucking crisis And they're treating it like once this is hypocritical of you to be drawing this line for someone who loves whistleblowers Like this is crazy the the very idea that you think that institutions should be able to

Go back on agreements that they make with people to protect their anonymity goes so against just the baseline of journalism it goes Against the baseline of honor if you're not really does honor if you're not willing If you're not willing to accept that there's a difference between an edwards noden and a reality winner compared to a hypothetical Mike Pence As a whistleblower you just chose and that's it's mike penns fine fine

It's the the reason is he the the writer uses a word that mike penns is used in speeches multiple times The but the the point being this If you don't accept that there's a difference in a whistleblower who needs to be protected and a whistleblower Who is pretending that they're doing the right thing while at the same time facilitating the very thing that they're pretending to be against I I don't see how that makes sense. I don't see how that's hypocritical Well, because I don't think that the principles of journalism and the principles of source protection Have to do with whether you think the person's an asshole or not What is it? What an asshole an asshole?

That's it. You have no idea who this person is. I don't care all your complaints are that they're an asshole That's all it boils down. What are you talking about? Did you read that part of the administration? And they're like, oh, I want to not be blamed for this exactly. They're an asshole. That's all you're saying No, I'm saying that they're what they're the ones who are saying we're taking the the bills that were we're keeping him from Uh ending the trade agreement with south korea. We're not stopping him from his immigration policy We're the ones who are avoiding war with iran. We're not stopping him from fucking Sending the biggest bomb over there. We're we're the ones who are doing all of this shit But we're not stopping the actual harm that he's really doing. We're stopping the apocalyptic harm that he's doing right

I'm not defending the non actions that maybe should be made But I am saying that outing that person doesn't help at all I don't understand how it doesn't help. How would it? What do you mean? How would it help? You take one down that person's okay. You take one down. Great. Then you get another person in it'll do the exact same thing Fair enough. That's a that's a fair. That's a fair counter argument. That doesn't matter. However, imagine imagine the difference in impact imagine the difference in impact between an anonymous op-ed written by a nebulous

Trump administration versus an actual op-ed naming a person in the administration Who is admitting that they are actively sabotaging the democratic process? All right. Now, let's imagine the field day that the already violently threatening to murder journalists, all right, alex jones jack pasobic mike syrnovich world of propaganda Imagine the field day they would have when the new york times doesn't honor their agreement to keep Confidentiality of this person who works in the trooper. How different is it from what they're doing now? It would be they would be right. Oh, so they kill a guy

So they'd be so they'd be right. Okay. How are how are they not their argument would be right that the How is it not doing something that is outside of their ethics but their argument outside of their mandate But their argument is always that the media is doing something outside of their ethics right and they're wrong You can't let them be right. So what is that? What is the difference between them saying that they're doing something and them actually doing something principles For for what and that's why we lose fine All right, that's a fair argument

What do you I I'm not I'm not this guy who's gonna sit here and say like Hey, let's let everything burn while we stand by we did everything right. I'm not I'm not that there is there are people who Have that like let's uphold all of our norms and punch a Nazi in the face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not on that tip But I do think that there are Like pieces of just integrity and the way things are done correctly That cannot be Impugned and when you do all you do Is allow people who have bad faith and bad will to win

In that circumstance if the new york times were to name this person After there was an agreement that it was anonymous All you would do is verify every single narrative of the new york times is their chai calm globalist Weapon systems against the american people. Trump has said they're the enemy of the people Look at them not allow and they went back on their deal. This is dishonorable Right you allow so much of that stuff. So that's a negative consequence That's one piece of it But then the other piece of it is you don't allow yourself to continue to do the work the way you need to do

I so I respect that 100 percent I really do but really all you've said that you gain by burning this person is one of them is down I think that I think that changes the game though. It doesn't I really do it doesn't at all I really do how because once you show Look if you have somebody if you name the new york times and you show we don't give a fuck about the agreements that we've Offered then anytime in the future someone is like talking to you like maybe we'll maybe we'll get named Yeah, no, I I get that I get that is that the benefit you're talking about because that's not no No, I mean the benefit of people not being able to escape it anymore

But that doesn't achieve that I I feel like you changed the conversation on me in a way that I don't like I'm following the thread that you're making and trying to defend my Maybe centrist position, but okay. Here's here's Let me let me try because let me try and start back But let me let me from from where we from from where I felt like you skipped off I will allow you to do that But before you do let me just say really quick the idea of they can't get away with this anymore

Is not Is not at all a goal you would achieve through that action not not the I'm sorry. I I reacted too quick. That's not the point that I was looking for fair enough Go ahead the the point to start with your contention. We can't let the alt right be right About journalists and journalistic integrity, right? I mean it's a small point, but yeah, right? We don't exist in a world where that matters because we do to the people who are alt right they are Regardless of reality the people who are right are alt right

Who are nazis already believe that they're right? It doesn't matter if they actually are or not I have to stop you already how so because you have now allowed the uh people like mike sarnovich to Contextualize the world for you. You've allowed them to define things Because you're saying that they're right no matter what anybody does and no, that's not what i'm saying That's not I feel like you're cutting me off in an unfair way, but that's fine. That may be true to the people who follow them I'm not talking about perception. I'm who are the people who are fucking killing us. I'm talking about the reality of it We don't live in their reality Their perception of stuff will always be that these institutions are evil and they do evil stuff

Yeah, it is not true, but it is true to the people who follow them Yeah, when you behave the way they accuse the world of behaving Yeah, you make it true Yeah, and then you validate other arguments that they make that you probably don't want validated I don't track that fine. I don't track that Look that's your point then that's that's the when they go low we go high It's not and we lost it's not that at all how so How does that not track?

I don't know. I don't know if we're even talking about our show anymore I feel like we're getting into a little bit of a personal spat. We're not Go back to your main point my my main point being this When the new york times takes a real stand like this where they say This is a guy who is saying Exactly what we all kind of knew was going on and he wanted to say it anonymously because he's a fucking

Apologize. I apologize. Although hold on. Let's stop one second. How many she's are in the fucking few? Yeah, exactly Uh, although that makes it even more likely that it is a she could be betsy devils. Yeah having a moment priority Oh, man, let's kill her politically If they were to finally take an actual stand that is a symbolic moment more than it is a

representative moment of their entire track record It is a point of saying enough is enough We're going to finally do this That does not mean that they're going to burn every source going forward gives every source concern that they might does it Yeah, it gives every source Every single source like the new york times has never kept conch confidentiality before this one time where an administration is fucking

performing what is essentially a right-wing coup on a Formerly republic nation right and they are they're finally burning a source That is going to invalidate every single thing going forward The new york times doesn't have a track record that suggests. Maybe it's fine until you're a nazi I agree with the end goal of it and I I made a like Fuck all this shit, but yeah, I don't know. It's not the path. It's not the right path I know

It doesn't achieve the thing that you want it to achieve. I don't I don't disagree with you It does but it doesn't I don't disagree with you. All it does is invalidate their process and confirm Uh, vague conspiracy theories that people with bad faith have It's not I'm sorry like I don't I'm not mad at you and I don't think that you're dumb or anything like that But like I think that this line is not it's not productive. It's not it's it doesn't help There are other things certainly That like there are other norms that can be broken and be helpful But this one

It's one we need It's important If they hadn't made an agreement which they clearly did Because that's how this works, of course if they hadn't then yeah I mean like if someone just sent them to it with a request that this is off the record And that's that doesn't constitute an agreement that it's off the record and then they could burn them Yeah, that would be no I get in the same way like we already mentioned with buzzfeed and elon musk But the fact that it came out the way that it did means that there was a proffer and a deal that was made

so you can't It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You don't I I get I get the the The outcome that you imagine And like I say I kind of agree with it to some extent like it would be better if people weren't allowed to pull bullshit It would be great but The real outcome is that people like alex's worldview. They're

They're confirmed. They're reinforced And I don't think that's worth knowing who wrote a stupid op-ed I Am going to fundamentally disagree with you and I am going to accept that That is not a we may never get to the bottom of this. So no, we're not we're not gonna agree on this. So jordan God I love our show dan. It's so good. I love our show so much I know that we disagree a whole ton and I love you I love you too. And I don't I don't I don't discount your opinions

Though we may disagree. I I'd like for us to try and find some middle ground But if we can't then we can't that's fine. There's a lot of stuff We don't there's a lot of times that you call for violence and I'm a pussy about it or Don't say it that way. Yep. No, you're you're reasonable and correct about it And I am a reactionary asshole Who is trying to get everybody fucking killed you're a hothead and I'm milk toast and that's a dynamic No, me calling for violence is the worst thing that anybody can do You're right, but I mean, I'm emotionally right

That's kind of yeah, that's kind of the intellectually you are fucking right on it and emotionally I make I feel good. So before we got too deeply entrenched in an argument about journalistic integrity Yes, we were listening to roger stone appear on alex's show the day after he's been in dc, right and uh Roger has some thoughts about how uh, marco rubio Comported himself when alex accosted him You know, I think a serious question here would be is marco rubio literally the only person on planet earth Who doesn't know who alex jones is? I mean, I know you were very upset about this almost

He doesn't know who you is you are alex roger saying that but I Kind of jokingly, but I think alex really was kind of despondent about the idea that he didn't know who he was Oh, absolutely. I mean, what cave do this guy live in? To not recognize what's going on to conservative and republican voices on the internet marco rubio rubio is allegedly a conservative He seemed oblivious to the entire issue of internet censorship And obsessed only with how the russians and the chinese may be censoring Wait, isn't that alex's whole narrative that the chinese are censoring stuff? Wait, so rubio was aware of what? Cool, man. Cool. Cool. Oh, this guy's actually

In in congress and doing the work that you want him to talking about the chinese censorship But he doesn't know who you are. So you're fucking pissed off. So it's yeah Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense now jordan. Yes, I told you earlier in this show that alex keeps playing the uh final countdown right, uh Which I have speculated is kind of a harkening back to his past in the same way that we've heard him sing along to country in the Last like a couple weeks. Yeah, sort of again like some of his getting into it coming back Um, and I think in this next clip we get to hear another Much more very legitimate returning to his roots. We get to hear the offsprings cover of the final countdown. No, but no

No, no, I think we see In terms of alex jones's future trajectory. I see two roads Yeah, and this one sort of describes the more preferable version I almost can't have fun here because yeah, we had a big victory lap as you called me last night I said, well, great job by nipsey hustle my accusers And they couldn't believe it looked horrified And now they're even more horrified that they don't get as they kick us off cyberspace We just go take over the third dimension like the infowars army. We've launched. Um, it's totally peaceful

Saying get information out wake people up. Uh, they're really starting to get scared. I think roger Well, and that's why elwin schreuer and I're gonna set up a go fund me for our new bullhorn fund In other words, we want members of the infowars army To be armed with Make sure their voices are heard yep, tyranny crusher alex is going back to his bullhorn roots tyranny crusher's three through 485 go fund me baby. There's like like legitimately at this point with him being kicked off of twitter

He now has like gab and mike mike adams has his Real dot video or something like that. Sure. So but I mean like I went and watched a video on there Like a thousand hits or something like that. Yes, one of his late latest shows. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there is no There's no like market penetration. There's no encroachment or anything like that Which it should have if he has the audience that he says he has So like there's only really two ways for him to go one is like a very violent Coming to god moment Like him realizing like I've been holding back. I'm just gonna start throwing n words around

I'm gonna just be a white national might as well toss it in there. I have been holding that back I'm going to pander to these nazis that I've already been loving Yeah, yeah, and then the other side of it is just diminishing returns forever. Like it's just going to be him You know way way doing the same shit. He always does And how many how many viewers does stormfront have or whatever way more than alex probably well Yeah, then why not just migrate to that after he's been kicked off everything else might not need supplements though They might have that covered White supremacists are genetically superior. They don't need a super male vitality at the same time

There's no reason to migrate like like there's no reason to not lose the supplement stuff Right like at a certain point he has enough of an audience that he could just like milk them for money Yeah, and do a small scale version of what he's doing But the unfortunate thing about that is that like, okay, then you lose that big old studio You become basically what you were in 2007, which is still great still fun Now you're still now you gotta have ted is your boss again Now you're gonna be a little bit later More down the ladder a little bit further and you're back on the street with a bullhorn

That's the ideal situation. I think that's the most fun situation for him. It's the most. He just doesn't know it It's the most natural course for his career to have gone right like icarus. He flew too close to the sun He behaved in such inappropriate ways Uh and he blew all of the things they had created Yeah, like he did a lot of work in terms of creating his show Creating the fan base that he had in social media. I mean granted. He didn't do all of that But he was a part of creating all of that and then he fucked it all up I mean, there were there were choices he made and it wasn't trump. It was the other choices. Yeah, yeah, yeah

and I would love to see him Come back to his bullhorn roots because He couldn't afford his mortgage if he did though Yeah, probably not. That's kind of to me. That's kind of where we're at right now is Alex has so much more fun being the underdog who doesn't have anybody Uh listening to him who is constantly Uh scrambling with with gold ads and with racist ass jib bob Chapman throwing everything around

But he died in 2012 by the way Which who fucking knows he might come back. Sure. Uh, but man, he's got a mortgage, dude It's different for us to be in this position where we're like, yeah, come back, baby. Come back to this low rung Yeah, yeah, and then for someone to have tasted gold, you know, like right tasted truffles, right? And then come back to like, oh man, I could just do my bullshit and live in an apartment. This is great Right. No, it's great. No, if we got a show on msnbc For five years. I don't know if we'd be super cool going back into this apartment recording again I would because I think we both would I think we would be pissed off every time. What are we doing a show? Fuck off

Throwing microphones across the room We'd be terrible on tv madhouse coming up Fuck it What are we? Who advertises on this fucking show? Get him out of here Jordan we're doing it live I would have a bill o'reilly clip for sure No, I don't there would be a lot of tears on our on our tv show. There's no doubt. Yeah, that would be great to see on television

God, we'd be amazing. But there's no there's no like, uh, there is a big difference between like, uh Being cool with a certain position and falling to a certain position. Yeah I was gonna have a much he'd have much more of like a I used to have caviar and now no one loves me Right, right that sort of thing which would be bitter and be tough But I it's still preferable to me than him Unleashing the demon that's within him. Yeah, like the the outright white nationalism and outright horrible bigotry that that is there like I don't want it to become like

All right, this is what we're doing. Yeah. Fuck it I censored myself because I was on all these uh these streams and if you kid yourself If you fucking kid yourself for a second and think that genesis communications network will kick him off If he starts throwing n words around or it just becomes an outright white supremacist Don't kid yourself. I mean ted anderson for years released bob anderson's A bob chat bob chatman's yeah, uh newsletter the international forecaster, which I've read a bunch of lately Dan could you could you read me? a nice little excerpt from one of bob chatman's

Journals dan let me see if I can pull this up. Let's see if you can pull up something that maybe expresses some sort of And I'm gonna go out on a limb here Uh white nationalist viewpoint. This is from the august 2003 issue. He puts out like four issues a month or so This is this is one of the he's complaining. We should just to be clear Bob chatman if you guys have not heard the show before uh is someone who made all of his money by stealing gold from apartheid south africa And you know like a good guy and then once apartheid started falling apart He fled the country, you know like a good guy and then told people you shouldn't get into uh south african gold because they Have aids there and the entire social system is a bust like a good guy

So in this issue of his uh his journal, he uh advises people Against south african gold because he's against the mining unions that are starting to exist there unions. They just destroy labor He argues that the national mine workers union is uh run by marxists And he goes on to say that quote black empowerment is only another way of saying communist takeover Yeah, that sounds right. Oh boy. You know how when black people want to be alive. They're communists. Mm-hmm That's that makes sense. Mm-hmm. You know that makes sense So in september 2003 he put out uh

A journal where he was talking about immigrants dan with receipts is my favorite dan quote Unfortunately, the republican agenda of mr. Bush is returning to pre 9 11 an amnesty for illegal mexicans As we reported earlier that under the guise of controlling or regulating illegal immigration Arizona senator john mccain and his house colleagues representative jim colby and Jeff flake would grant permanent resident residency status over a period of years to illegal aliens already in the country That is 1986 all over again only this time We're looking at making 10 million felons citizens Most most illegals have a third grade education and don't speak english

We are told by sources in washington that as soon as this is passed the republicans are coming after your gun I cannot believe that trump became president dan. So also bob wants to talk about uh We know that he lived in apartheid south africa, but he also lived in rodigia The white supremacist state that became uh zimbabwe. Oh, yeah A lot of uh trouble. Huh a lot of a lot of growth pains, uh and getting rid of that white supremacist state Bob Chapman, uh kind of thinks that rodigia was pretty cool I don't know why in 1970 to 1973 the zimbabwe dollar which at that time was called the rodigian dollar was 1.25 to the us dollar

A few years ago was 8 to 1 and last week it was 6000 to 1 You can accomplish this when you have a dictatorial marxist tribal government You may choose to disagree, but we see america heading in that same direction. Did he say tribal? Yeah, I really don't think he meant like governed by tribes. No, he's talking about I think he means more like That's racist. You know what? I'm gonna you know what? I'll stop right there I can't presume to judge somebody else based on their words. I mean I would say that You know

Rodigian government was dictatorial. Oh the white supremacist rodigian. There's so much more of this, but it doesn't matter Just to say that like it doesn't matter Alex could just start expressing the most overt White nationalist white supremacist rhetoric in the world and but uh, uh, ted anderson would to be like Let's do this doesn't make money. Yep, because he put out that newsletter for years He's totally fine with it. All this all this world is totally fine with it They just want to not have any consequences for it. Yep, not the not the exact consequences. It's like they own nfl teams We're gonna get to that in a second

We're gonna get to it. There's no way that this strikes to that It does. All right, of course. Actually, you know what? Of course it does. I brought up the connection Why would ice be silly enough to think that that's beyond the pale? You're a soothsayer Oh, anyway, um, so alex is in trouble basically because of his harassing of oliver darcy Which we've already talked about a little bit. Yep turns out roger is not a fan of that dude either Of course not. Yeah, it's kufka. Ask that Darcy guy did not do well Yesterday, I thought that you exposed him as the fraud that he really is you did great It was a total mr. Jones goes to washington moment and I gotta congratulate me because you got the courage to go

Right there in the lion's den and confront the the face of evil. I mean so roger is right on board with the things that got alex in trouble weird weird So alex called, uh Oliver Darcy a possum coming out of a cow's rear end as I recall I believe that's how he phrased. Have you ever seen that? I haven't but alex has is that a thing though? alex has seen it He has and of course talking to the man that looks like a possum

That just climbed out of the carcass of a dead cow when I said that to him. He said, oh, you already said that before like Oh, you were watching That's what you look like I mean the possum coming out of the end of a dead cow. I've seen it before they have a look on their face Like they've done something wrong We'll be right back. You got some evil eyes boy. What? And then he just what and then he just wait you just go to break after that And then he also as he's going to break re says exactly the thing that's probably the most like

Like the most dog wistly of it all you got some evil eyes boy. No, I get no i'm uh, you know what? That's some white supremacist talk. I've accepted that. He's a white supremacist I can let that go right what I can't let go is that he's seen a possum climb out of a dead cow's ass before And that's not explained and there needs to be a story behind that. They always know that they've done something wrong I don't know what that means. No one does he's what possums don't know the the morality of climbing out of assholes Of course not. He's making this up. It's all bullshit Just down home Kind of shit now you have not heard the video of uh, alex

Uh, like confronting and harassing Darcy. No, of course not. So now we're gonna listen to a tiny clip of it I'm you get a small taste of it. I think i'm actually contractually obligated not to watch that video Well, now you're gonna get a taste of it. Okay, you're seeing it with no viewers. No followers Everyone can't stand you and no matter you just shut everyone down on earth. No one will like you You understand that you'll never have billions of billions of fans of followers. You'll never have people that love you Do you have anything else you'd like to tell us? You know if you are a dishonorable liar who would never even dare have me on your little tiny shows When you instilled or called me a virus you

Are a virus to america and freedom you are authoritarianism Just look in those eyes The hunger to silence america the hunger to extinguish the first amendment the hunger to the scene But he can't do it because the possible liberty is not going to be knocked out I want you to know i'm starting to come up here a lot. We've been seeing a lot of each other. That's good I'll see you now. Oh, it's good to see you. Yeah I mean that is I understand that that's 45 seconds of their interaction, but it's indicative of the entire nine minutes

It's alex haranguing this person who's just like cool, man. Always nice to see alex Cool, dude. Got anything else you want to say? Yeah, I don't know what to do here. Hey, man, buddy I'm not doing an interview with you. I don't like I don't I didn't agree. How's the wife He doesn't even do that. Do you do an all right? That would be a micro aggression to alex Although uh, if a leftist got offended by that he's called them triggered. Oh, no, you got triggered So that I just wanted to play that just to give some sort of an idea of like That's the vibe of that entire thing where it's like this is a guy being harassed. Yeah harangued. It's not it's not like Ha ha finally. I've got the villain in my clutches and I get to give him what for rare. It's just

Look at those eyes. You suck Look at those eyes. What are you talking about? There are a number of times too that alex like sort of runs out of steam and you're just standing there silently and all over dorsi is like You got anything else? alex is like hey, and you know what? Have you ever have you ever heard about demons and you smell like sulfur and Yep, it's it's it's that it's that. Oh, i'm so sleepy. He's running on fumes I'm so sleepy with his own yelling for

If you have the demons are coming for the children and the I'm so exhausted. So have you ever taken a red eye flight? To wash to that somehow I have jet lag I've never taken a red eye to do red eye with great guts held. I don't know He won't book me. How many hours? I'm funny. Am I I saw charade small? Am I in the central time zone or the western or am I in mountain time? He'll book duck benson. Why can't I get on red? I am hilarious Who is duck benson? Can I get him on my show?

Oh getting alex with high would be a great show. Oh my god That's just the times he shows up on rogan. There you go. So we got two more clips. Yeah And then I think I want to do something weird, which you've never done on the show before Kill a human it's kind of in four wars roulette Okay, I have the video of alex's response to him being kicked off twitter. Okay. I haven't watched it. All right. All right Now i'm in now i'm in That's a nine minute video That we are going to watch after these last two clips

So we're are we gonna jump in and jump out? Yeah, probably and I bet we watch like three minutes of it and be like fuck this I I guarantee it'll be less but before that we're still on thursday's show and Like I can't stress this enough. I don't have any clips of this because it's mostly embedded in like really boring long patches of Shit, but alex does express a couple times admiration for jack dorsi He expresses this idea that like he's not as bad as facebook. He hasn't kicked me off yet He doesn't realize a couple hours from then he's going to be kicked off there. That's pretty shodden fruity

It's only interesting to me in as much as like he would later probably say like we knew was coming Yeah, of course coming at all. You got blindsided by this like crazy No, and it seemed to suggest earlier in the episode or the episodes before that that he knew he was going to be kicked off Eventually, well, I mean he has to know that as a whole like he knows he's he's skating on thin ice Right, but he thinks that the ice is much thinner a thicker than it is because he is keeps testing the ice keeps stomping on It doesn't break. I'm like, I'm I'm safe. Yeah, and it turns out no you hit the wrong patch and you fell fucking straight through And I right you're gonna freeze He's like the ice in futuristic violence and fancy suits

The reason that I am certain that he has no idea what's going on is because most of this show has been Basically a victory lap of him talking about like all these people suck again off of nippy hustles most recent album I'm god zeal. Great album hustle and motivate serious banger of attraction. I'm god zilla Marco rubio sucks Fair fuck what they're saying. I'm saying this Darcy Sucks. I clowned him. I made him look like a cock. Fuck living basic. I'm taste. I'm taking risks

So that's a lot of the stuff and then dude listen to this. This is a mic down thing because I think this is gonna make you really mad Oh dan Have I been really mad this episode? I can't imagine more than normal Okay, but I I'm putting my mic down preemptively. I think that like first of all this this is wild That he's he's coming in with this but then second. It's also fun to see him Consistently misrepresent mispronounced the name of a brand Here's something that's really central To all of this and understanding. It's a kit daniel's article. That's at news wars dot com

It's a kit daniel's article that is at info wars dot com Who cares nike popularity drops 34 percent Nike As generation z rejects cappernick ad campaign Now Why is this the key to everything? I'll tell you why

Tell me why because You've seen the nfl lose almost half its viewers the last three years You've seen hollywood lose about 38 percent of its viewers the last three four years You've seen every major corporate media outlook real quick. I mean that isn't true. Keep your mic down, but the the part Thanks, dan. No problem the part the part of it that is true in terms of like diminishing Stats is because of like cord cutting and because of like different ways to find the content that you want to watch So like it's just a like a modern technology issue in the same way that album sales went down when napster Came around it's not because people just didn't want music anymore

It was because there was you know, we fucked cable and all that shit So your argument's bogus, but this is going to get so much worse Let's lose 25 of its audience year after year Except for a few shows on msnbc and fox and abc, but in general they've all declined massively But nike popularity drops 34 percent As jin z rejects cappernick ad camping. Why is that so important? Their stop dropped 3.7 million dollars

Then it dropped even more And why Through time-masking Because the idea that he sacrificed everything is not true He was having a bad football season He'd become scared of contact He had become what they call A little bitch

and No, he couldn't take it anymore. So he got basically hired by soros and others to be this pr person To go out for racial strife and division in this country and start kneeling during the national anthem Which is your first amendment? If you're not on the team what cool cool How does that fucking work that doesn't fucking work? That doesn't fucking work. You can pick up your mic again. That doesn't fucking work For everyone. This is an audio podcast. Jordan just stood up for most of that and was pacing

I've not seen you that like furious for that which i'm glad i told you to put the mic down I stopped watching football two years ago on account of the fucking it's murder, but Fucking come on. I watched Colin Kaepernick destroy the bears Destroy the bears like it wasn't even a fucking game like that was what I cared about football I've been a huge bears fan for a long time. Colin Kaepernick is one of the more talented quarterbacks So many fucking NFL teams would be incredible if they had just fucking signed Colin Kaepernick He has a fucking backup. He would still be better than fucking Whomever you want to toss in there like a fucking there's so many people still have a job

We shouldn't fucking have a job and Colin Kaepernick was good. He's actually good at what he does. Do you know why? He was Kept out of a job tan. Yeah, and and that's what his lawsuit is about. Yeah, because he's right on It is an entire there's evidence that the it's a labor issue. Yep Oh my fucking god. Here's his original complaint. Uh, not complaint, but his original, uh, Speech was about, uh, race issues, which is very valid. It wasn't about race issues. No, it was about murder police Murdering people and somehow that's based on not supporting through. Yeah. No, exactly. Exactly. That's the point Somehow it turned into like you don't support the troops or any bullshit like that

Colin Kaepernick was literally kneeling as he stated Because police were murdering black people and then it's a really simple protest. It's very interesting It should be the support of everyone on the fucking planet. I agree. I agree Oh, you wish you hadn't had police murdering black people. Why is that a controversy? And it's even it's so fascinating because I mean even like what we've like you've touched on already like It is it is a protest that that started with that and then Very quickly became about labor like it it's it has all of that wrapped up inside All of those things alex is against and that's why he gets so like I fucking hate this

I hate the idea of people having the right to work Yep, you know the I hate the idea that they have power over their bosses And then I also fucking hate the idea that uh, this uppity dude, uh, is Coming in and trying to speak up in his position. Quick question. Dan. How many NFL owners are black I honestly don't know. I would assume not many, but I don't know. I would be surprised if it was like five I don't know. Hey, guess lower Oh, yeah

Oh, yeah, Dan. You're the Kool-Aid man. Oh, yeah I just burst in through the wall with Colin Kaepernick facts at you I don't I don't know that that that stuff because it's not like, you know, the sports is very Unfamiliar world, right? All right, but I hear let me let me put it to you in wrestling terms You know, vince mcman. He's very black. Yeah, imagine he owned every nfl team Do you remember when he was the ecw champion and he wore a durag? Don't It was as close as he got to wait. He did what he wore a durag. He's a very racist man

That's vince. What he wore a durag. Yeah I'm not okay with it was a dark time. Yeah dark time in his own Do you mean like all of his company's history? He's not been good with race stuff What no What it's been pretty bad. I'm sure he's been good with labor stuff. There's that tag team crime time No, I'm sure everybody has health benefits because it's clearly a union company and it's really important to take care of your Your talent because now that's another labor issue

You wouldn't have a show if it weren't for your talent, you know Just like the nfl wouldn't have a league if it weren't for the talent that was playing the game So you want to make sure that they're taken care of right? You want to make sure that if they get an injury Their careers aren't over and all their money is for for that would be crazy travel between shows Look, they're independent contractors and that's oh, yeah. No, that makes that makes sense. That makes perfect sense. Yeah No one seems to care because everyone thinks wrestling is stupid, but it's a huge labor issue that needs to be resolved It sure seems like it horribly abusive also granted whole foods Fucking hurry it up and and fucking unionize

Everyone unionize everyone unionize Every time I try and bring it up at the office people laugh it off and I'm like fucking come on guys for real unionize frustrating Damn I think it's also frustrating that I work in an office because comedians can't unionize But anyways, that's a whole different story. They could very easily. No way comedians could never you know our scab labor would destroy us

Yeah, because nobody knows what's funny. No, that's true And you could always hire scab labor. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So we have one more clip before we get into this no man's land of uh, alex's response Who the fuck knows what might happen and here's what I want to say Earlier in the show alex was talking about how when he went to washington dc He got accosted by somebody he expelled it out later that someone fucked a russian spy Being a russian, you know all that stuff and here is why

Him being kicked off twitter the next day is fucking super dangerous I don't think it's wrong that they did it. I understand why you need to do it You should have done it earlier But the timing is really fucked up because on on his show today. He said something that will become his narrative This will Validate him for the next I don't know at least six months on tuesday I told you you'll want to tune in on wednesday

Because we're gonna have some big news big news It's a big news brisket and folks know. I don't hype. I just give you the facts sure You're gonna want to tune into the show tomorrow sure Because I've decided come heller high water I'm gonna release the information on air do it Do it That will not be national news. They will power this down. They believe me the order's gonna go out. Do not cover this

But They're making their move on this country. There's no doubt now. Oh, yeah The stuff they've been pulling is so over the top Trump has to remove that special office that the clinton's left behind with obama At the justice department So this did he mean that trump has to remove the justice department? Sure, whatever But it doesn't matter. This is just what he does all the time like we can look back to our podcast history and we can see the time He's like Jerome course. He's gonna be killed for the information that he has he does gonna be honest

I've never listened to our show. He does this all the time that that's sort of like weird teas of like I'm gonna do this soon. We're gonna. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but unfortunately if Jerome course He isn't killed by next week. You'll know that it's because we stopped the globalists, right? Yeah, but he does this stuff all the time and because it unfortunately the timeline happens That like he's saying tomorrow I'm gonna fucking do this Right as if he hadn't done that a hundred times before right because he said it on this show I think that he's going to be able to use that as like a But alex is going to be able to use that as like, uh, I was right. That's why they kicked me off

It's going to be a foundation of his his narrative, which is it's cool, man. It's it's good But it's like it's like if all of the times he said Uh terrorist attack is going to happen in the next three months, right? It happened The summer of rage is coming. Yeah, if it happened the next day, he'd be like look at how right I was like unfortunately Coincidentally, yeah, he fucking nailed it. Well, but he didn't nail it because The the well it happened That day instead of tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It happened 45 minutes after he said it was going to happen tomorrow

If his prediction was they're going to kick me off of twitter Because i'm going to reveal this then he would have been accidentally right. Yeah, but he's just saying i'm going to reveal this tomorrow Right, right. I'm going to retcon it and be like that's why they did it. No, of course I assume tomorrow we're going to have to do an emergency episode where we fight against the devil. Yeah, but for now Jordan, this is the exclusive exclamation point. Here we go. alex jones responds to twitter bang. Let's do it I have the video in front of me Do you I do I do i'll give you as much updates as I can But here we go

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Uh-oh crazy. Here we go I Welcome back to the war room I have to tell you I'm actually getting probably the best exclusive in the world right now. Oh my god. You're the worst to alex jones You're so boring world And he's been now officially terminated from twitter the last Terminated. I gotta pause terminated. I gotta pause real quick. Come on oan

Fucking suck it up and say he's been banned. I've not watched a bit of uh, oh and shroyer. I haven't seen him in a long time He's growing a sympathy beard He's growing a sympathy. He also has a big he has a beard going Yeah, and I'll say it's a better beard than alex's. You know, I I started growing my beard again, and now I feel like I need to shave it off. Yeah Bastion he had to go live on one of the mainstream social media networks. Alex. You've now been banned So what do you god damn right? Why do you think you got banned and what does this mean for free speech in america? It's sure. It's sure. It's so funny. He's pretending. He's not interviewing his boss

You know like oh, what does this mean for your future? That would be that would be fun if he if he actually knows like If he if he has the sense of like hey alex I'm interviewing you because you aren't gonna be by my my boss that much longer Also, what does this mean for the future? Is like, uh, should I make my alex uh What's my cv look like? Do you think I could be hired on at another organization? I hate to say this, but his beard doesn't look terrible. Hmm. Bumps me out. That happens. Oh, and there's a good coverage

How's my beard look terrible fair enough. That's fine. Well, I was taken down not because we live because we tell the truth And because we were popular and because we dared go to that committee hearing And stand up to rubio and stand up to the lives of mainstream media But speak the truth and then we ran into Oh for darcy Who is the secret police captain who admits he goes around and gets people like info was taken off other Platforms because we confronted that monster

That has abused us and lied about us and taken our speech You know because of that they took us down and because the group of hispanic racist women Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what just happened there people came up and said your mother married her brother Whites are monkeys and I said you're a racist. Well, they hit us for that as well And because I dared speak to lord rubio that happened But they had paid democrats yelling and screaming up and down the halls taking over the live events But to me you're a crazy person. I was bullying the press I showed up and all the cameras were on me because I was a big

He pulled his ear issue. Oh, there it is. And there was big stories pressuring the company pressuring their stock Soros was pressuring their stock Shorting their stock reportedly that if they didn't take me off they'd do this Shorting the stock reporter. Yeah. All right. Come on. Come on. Suck it up. Oh, uh, darcy Or jack dorsi finally had Darcy reason to do it. We knew it was coming. So a liver all over jack dorsi dot com It's top story bigger than that. Let's put up a screen place bigger than that

Making air traffic I like that. He's on somebody else's show. He's like pull up that screen compound. I'm your boss You do what I tell you do now he got last week kicked off facebook and off of twitter They're banning everyone and they use me as the cover story. They first demonize who I am build a straw man That's what they do and then they attack that straw man and remove it. So thank god drudgereport.com has been so Interculling this drudge is the only Now more traffic than any other news site in the world number two website period Thank god really fresh covering it. Obviously he has to link to cnbc right now because he doesn't have our analysis

Of what happened, but A lot of it was on twitter a lot of it's from other servers, but a lot of it now is on our own Website as we knew the censorship was coming. You can see me say thank you Jack Dorsey for saying you support free speech. Thank you but I did not say as you said when I was banned for seven days a few weeks ago get your battle rifles ready for the media I said antifa says they're coming to our houses members of congress members of ice get ready with your Battle rifles to protect yourself there. So they're

Doesn't it seem like he just admitted he said what he said he didn't say On what count? Well when he said I didn't say get your battle rifles ready. Yeah, I said Get your battle rifles ready No, no totally I when we talked about this already like that that whole thing was Alex was right about that Like that's I mean he always calls for violence, but but it's always he always couches it Like in sort of defensiveness and and and shit like that

He's he said much more things that were like Outwardly like these are demons. We must crush them. Yeah that sort of thing But because of that instance he talked about have your battle rifles ready by your bed because they're coming Yeah, that sort of thing the way he talked about it. Yeah, it is like you need to kill them when they come in your house Oh, well, of course, but it's no that makes sense. It's still if they come in your house, you know, it's it the The the media did treat him unfairly on that. It's one of the rare things that I'll defend him on. Yeah, okay fair enough. It it it's The way he did it was kind of a trap too. Like I'll I'm not gonna say that like Like he's clean on this

You know, like he was trying to fuck with people Yeah, and use this violent imagery in the yeah, of course language in order to get people to respond to it Of course, you know what it is. I'm gonna I'm done with this response. This response is stupid. It really sucks It's boring. I'm bummed out by it and also because I have the video in front of me I hate looking at oan shroyer because that beard is okay What it does bum me out. Okay, but he's got a sympathy beard. Here's here here. Ah, jordan I think I found yeah, I think I found the final point that I want to let's do it. Let's do it. I think really brings all this home okay

Alex jones and the people who are against alex jones quote unquote. Yeah, they exist And and alex jones more than the other side. I believe exist only because of centrifugal force They only exist and they're only able to continue being what they are because they keep moving forward But they don't realize that the moving forward is just spiraling It's just a tornado and they're counterbalanced by the other person getting mad at them So alex jones baits the other side into getting mad at them. They both move forward And they spin around and the force created by moving forward keeps them clutched together Right, and that's how luke skywalker created a force ghost

To fight against what I feel like you're goofing on what I think was a Pretty decent path. No, it was a it was a very good point. I'm I'm sick of this shit. I don't think it's interesting I think it's fair enough fair enough. I think it's nonsense. Um, I think that uh His uh his response to being kicked off twitter is Exactly the same as everything he says all the time It's it's uh, it's bullshit. And you know what here's the thing He has nothing else left to rebound against. Yeah, like he has no, um, uh Person holding him back now, you know, he's free. Yeah, he's absolutely free

There is no jack dorsi telling him. Hey, you can't do x y or z Now he is just his own media operation Infowars.com they have their ability to don't forget news wars news wars.com Let's forget that also. I don't know if we can forget it. He has no he has nothing holding him back Now he can be the purest alex that has ever been And I will guarantee that that's not gonna be fun. So I don't know. Here's my point Fuck him. I don't give a shit that he got kicked off twitter. It's a long time coming

Uh jack should have done it long ago. Yep. Uh, this isn't interesting to me at all I've been nope trying so hard to care And I just don't it's been a struggle. It's been a struggle. I just don't I don't care He did things that he should not have done Not on a like political level on a human level He did things that were abusive to other people and he has for years. He was not punished for it Now he is should have done earlier didn't Now it's happening great

so now Do you know where you can't find alex? I'll tell you a number of places Our website you can't find him at our website knowledge fight.com. Can you find him on twitter in him? Can't No, you can't but you can't find us at knowledge underscore fight. Can you uh, Where else could where else could you find us dan? Well, I mean you can't find alex on facebook You can't uh, could you find alex on ith itunes? No? Well, I think you can but only if you have the rss speed can you find him on my

Hiccup level. Jesus. You are going. Yeah, I'm hiccuping like wild. We got to shut this down. Um, this has been fun It's not been fun. I don't give a shit. I you know, it's been amazing It's been very fun, but I just don't give a shit about this This modern stuff like yeah the the end goal of this not the end goal But the end result of this is either Diminishment of alex as a force which I don't find all that interesting or also It's a good thing or him becoming an outright Uh avatar of neo nazism and white supremacy

Not like ang which ang was an amazing avatar. He was wait what? Not as good as kora. Kora was an amazing avatar. She existed anyways continue race bender How dare you talk Oh my god race bender. Oh, that's that's a trouble Let's brian kinesko. Let's get this shit solved right now. Can you have a race bender? That's not okay. How dare you? I made a great joke. No, I apologize. I stepped all over. What was an amazing joke? I apologize Maybe one of the three I've had how dare you that is I am I am absolutely A

Fucking supplicating towards your incredible So look all this all this is to say I don't find any of this interesting and The the end result one Blah and the other we should be scared of that but we'll keep an eye on it We'll see what happens in the future. Hope that's not the case But probably will be because it's where the more money is probably yeah, but no matter what happens It really doesn't matter because we need to remember What do we need to remember dan? Is there something specific about alex jones?

That maybe we should always have in our consciousness. He probably killed a dude Andi and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex and my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you