Knowledge Fight - #205: September 13, 2018

Episode Date: September 14, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on what Alex Jones is up to in the present day and find both very expected and very surprising things. On the very expected side, Alex gets super bigoted, then spends a ...disproportionate amount of his show talking about how he should be more cocky about how good his body is. On the more surprising end, Alex Jones announces that he just sold out his audience to what is embarrassingly probably the highest bidder.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about that That boy Alex Jones indeed. We are Dan. Yep Dan. Oh boy What was the last time you played Pokemon last time? Oh boy. I'll tell you what never never Even play the the original Game Boy red or no sir. No never nope never really had a Game Boy to speak of I know this is now becoming the theme for the openings is video game talk. And this is two times in a row It's not that bad, but it's a trend two times. It's a two times. It's not a trend
Starting point is 00:00:42 Sure coincidence not even a pattern coincidence or trend requires three to be a trend never played Pokemon wasn't super interested in it Thought it was for nerds. I thought about getting into Pokemon go for one second Yeah came out and I said nah, it's not for me, dude I'd rather read on the bus or something like that. Oh for me. It's so much for me. I love Pokemon go That's fine. I'm level 35 Dan. I don't even know how many more I can be how many have you caught? Too many to all of them too many because you have to catch them. I have only caught. I have not caught a Mewtwo Okay, which is what about a Charmander? Oh hell. Yeah, I started with a Charmander Dan I'm sorry Charmander's been my opening Pokemon since fucking red in
Starting point is 00:01:25 1990 I didn't mean to set you off. I only know about three. I know I know I'm just kidding What about a Bulbasaur the other one? I know of course anyway guys This is a podcast where Jordan knows a lot about Pokemon and I don't know anything about Pokemon except for Charizard Bulbasaur that's not bad. Also. I know a lot about Alex Jones and I don't only know what you tell me about Alex that is correct before we get into today's episode which I teased to Jordan before we started that it's Probably one of my favorite episodes of Alex's show that I've ever heard It's a big ask to believe that after how many episodes have you listened to and then collectively we listen to I mean We're over 200 episodes of our show right and some of those represent like four episodes of Alex's show. That's right
Starting point is 00:02:11 I would say I'm over a thousand episodes probably of listening to a show, you know, I believe you I would I would absolutely say that because of all the ones I've listened to we haven't talked about exactly like you got to consider All the time all the times that you've listened to three episodes seven eight hundred That's a conservative safe estimate All right, and you got to consider the ones that I listened to before we ever started this show Well, that does count. I didn't listen to him a lot before but I listened to him plenty I did I I was aware of him. I just wasn't paying attention. All right. I was like listen this fucking yeah Look at this fucking asshole. Haha. This guy. Yeah, he's a clown. Hurray dance. Yeah, dance white supremacist clown
Starting point is 00:02:50 So even the KKK needs clowns Dan. That's true. Send them in We will see if this lives up to the expectation that I have set. I hope it does I think it will but no matter what, you know, it does live up to our expectations I don't know great transitions and our listeners who have seen fit to donate to the show. We appreciate it. Oh, so very much Look Who you are we're working towards right, you know, and we really appreciate people Helping support the content that they like being put out into the world and they enjoy That's the business model that we have no one is ever probably going to sponsor our show
Starting point is 00:03:27 Probably we will sink or swim by the very generous contributions that people make to supporting us and we appreciate it And so today I'd like to give a shout out to a couple of the new folks who have joined up with the team Like to say first of all, thank you so much nilock. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much Also like to say thank you to someone else who's just joined up and decided to support the team. We thank you so much crystal You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Thank you very much crystal also Finally finally get down to business. I'd like to say thank you to someone who took their pledge their existing pledge and bumped it up a bit Thank you very much Mulan for helping us get down to business. We appreciate it Is this a Mulan reference I don't understand let's get down to business. Oh, I'd much rather go with
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Starting point is 00:05:01 We would appreciate it very much if you feel the the stirring in your loins go for it Uh, there's I don't know. I don't know what that means at all. There's a button on our website Knowledgefight.com up at the top says support the show just click it join up We have an advance copy of the live action Mulan even if it's an unedited unedited version I will watch the shit out of that. I'll do it. I know you will I absolutely. This is not an idle threat. No So Jordan it is Friday and so, you know, well, we do sometimes On Fridays as we check in what the fuck's going on with Alex in 2018 Last we checked he'd been kicked off everything. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, Apple app
Starting point is 00:05:44 Apple to app black eyed peas have kicked him off. Oh Oh boy This is what happens when I have a little coffee. Will you aren't? Yeah, so he's off the the iTunes store his app is gone. He got kicked off a Twitter and You know, I think the last time we checked in was just after he went to Washington and acted like a dick hole to everybody right when he was a dick hole to everybody and so, you know, we kind of assumed this is just going to be a Diminishing return situation for him. He's gonna paint himself as a Lenny Bruce type free speech warrior
Starting point is 00:06:17 And whatever. Yeah, but I slowly lose his mind as his quality declines, you know, like Lenny Bruce Sure, sure. I felt like, you know, the week's ending. We got a check back in we gotta see what's going on in the world of Alex And what I found is bar none the best proof that he is fucking done Okay Like I know he's going to keep going but like he is straight horse fucking himself The worst I like that. I'm teasing this a little bit. We're shot and fraying today is what we're doing by the end Well, only because what he's doing is massively unethical, but like
Starting point is 00:06:57 I don't mind only because what he's doing is massively. Okay, I don't mind taking pleasure in this level of Awful because he's be he's gonna hurt other people by doing what he's doing I don't want to spoil what this is but by the end of this episode you guys will understand fully what I'm talking about And you'll laugh too. No, this is a lot like if Scott Pruitt was lit on fire right next to me I'd be like, hey, this is hilarious. Maybe. Yeah, you might. Yeah. I might I don't walk away. You'd walk away Oh man, somebody should help this guy. I'm gonna get out of here though. Someone just tweeted at me I gotta download
Starting point is 00:07:38 There's a Charmander over there. I'm gonna see you later today. I see what you did So now let's see what Alex did in an outer context drop from today's show My neck is freakishly large. Okay Yeah, I like a guy who can look into the mirror and evaluate himself appropriately. Absolutely. That's good I will also say unrelated to why this is one of my favorite episodes There's a stretch of this show where Alex is trying to work out some body image issues It is fucked up Okay, so we're gonna start where Alex starts which hey guys guess what now that Alex isn't having to worry about
Starting point is 00:08:18 Most of the things he had to worry about before turns out he takes a real hard trip back into blood libel territory. Oh boy the stress level You can cut with a knife right now. I Could almost not go on air today Because of the magnitude and the stress and just how serious things are not for me People keep asking how I can handle all these unprecedented attacks only Trump's been attacked more than I it's now official How's it official? How's it official?
Starting point is 00:08:49 NASA did a survey of all the attacks On I mean if Alex wants to use the social media stuff as like his big case for it Then he's been attacked more than Trump. Yeah, so he's been attacked almost as much as any woman on Twitter saying things But he should he should up his up his claim here like I'm attacked more than Trump I'm banned from stuff. Yeah, that's true. I mean, why not? Well, because I jump as his god king. Yeah, he can't you know, he can't over which would be that would be blasphemy He has to put himself in a subservient position right like a fucking coward. We haven't gotten to the blood libel yet Because the globalists are evil and they're taking our country in our world over it's the only chance we've got
Starting point is 00:09:40 And I've used this analogy many times there've been famous cases people weren't even good swimmers But a big ship had tumped over and they had to swim, you know, fifty a hundred yards in total darkness to get out And people are able to do it just like those, you know kids had never been scuba diving and in the mind collapse that happened a few months ago And they got a crash course in it. They they made it out It's not Desperately trying to not be a slave I Would not be fighting tooth and nail at my own personal risk if we were just being taken over by some superior capitalist system Would simply try to be part of that
Starting point is 00:10:15 Hmm that's a spoiler for later, but hold on what did he just say you would try and be a part of it What I would do is I would give up on all of my principles and try and be part of the winning team I would sell out if we were being taken over by a superior Almost like something happened in 2015 and I did exactly that now he's gonna do it again. Okay at the end of this episode I'm all about adopting things. I'm all about things that are better Marrying them. That's what you do. I Don't want to be at war with everybody, but the globalist are really nasty Devil worshipping blood drinking pedophiles and you know, you should all the news. Oh, sure as blood goes for $18,000
Starting point is 00:10:55 Court you see that all in the news It's in the medical literature, I know Rich people here in town that told me it's 10 years ago. I ought to go get children's blood Well, I say that all the time So don't don't tell me I Know and that's why they hate me because the globalist tune in and they go this guy has got our number. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, that's it. Yeah, $18,000 a quart I don't I don't know what the retail or wholesale prices on children. Yeah, what's the MSRP?
Starting point is 00:11:31 I don't know But I will tell you what he's talking about is that there's sort of a fad among rich people of like blood transfusions from like youth Younger people. Yeah, that is something that is real, but it's like people who would go to oxygen bars and shit like that It's it's it's just some sort of thing that rich people the idle rich needs something weird to sort of get that It's just it's just proof that there's no reason that these people are richer than us other than weird Sociopathy and a confluence of luck and events circumstance. Yeah, all these are all really stupid piece Really stupid people. Yeah, I mean if you see I'm not not all of them They're there, you know, there's as wide a spectrum as there is in any other walk of life
Starting point is 00:12:11 Yeah, right, but like you if you watch a lot of celebrities with on unlike What would you call it unshepherded speech you listen to some of them talk for long periods unfiltered uncurated. Yes You know that sort of thing they reveal like oh, you don't know all that much unabridged. Yeah. Yeah So like yeah, and you know when you're rich some like really expensive thing comes along They're like, I'm gonna fucking do that. How many rich people do you think own? $10,000 crystals, you know like it's got prove it It's the same sort of thing like when you're really rich You run out of things to spend your money on that you actually need and you start investigating getting youth below, right?
Starting point is 00:12:50 And like if you were like a human you might say well, I'm never going to be able to spend all of this money I have right so why not instead of buy a dumb bullshit $10,000 crystal I could just give it away now ironically then you end up being a globalist and Alex's eyes like Hamdi Oolokia Buffet the people have signed to the pledge right away most of their money before they right exactly But then you become a demon you're drinking children's blood Which is where we get into the blood libel aspect that is very literally anti-semitic canards from history pretty much that is an expression of Alex's directly using historical anti-semitism to paint the globalists as demonic pedophiles who drink children's blood
Starting point is 00:13:36 Which we don't need to get into it again. It's just bears mentioning that's overt Yeah, that is you can't there's no other way to describe that because that's not what they're doing No one's drinking blood Transfusions and it's stupid novelty bullshit for rich people. Have you ever drank blood only my own But yeah, you know like that's like if you yeah, if you have a cut you do that I don't imagine that it would be something that's easy to get through. No Like I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't want to take a just just a glass out of it, you know I don't even fucking want tomato soup
Starting point is 00:14:12 Probably less delicious than tomato soup. That's my point. That's your point. Yes. I don't want club motto What other red liquids do you will not want a motto club motto? I already said it. Yeah, beat you to it What about what about Barry is okay cranberries okay? Yeah beet juice. No, have you ever had beet juice? That might be the Pokemon I don't think I've had beat Wouldn't you see now we've got a real sponsorship right there beat anybody who sells beet juice Hook us up now for your new slogan beet juice the Pokemon of juices and that and imagine the the victory of them winning me over Oh, yeah, you know just like I never had beat you. Oh my god. This is the best. We would never we would never advertise a
Starting point is 00:14:59 Product that we don't believe in oh, Dan. I'm guaranteeing if we get a beet juice Prevair Then we got it done right so this is not Alex's main narrative This is just him rambling about bullshit, but almost immediately after that clip He does get into what would be his varsity narrative For this episode and boy, it's thin So the ultramassiveness straight ahead. I haven't even told you what it is yet. There's a hurricane It's not getting attention deserves. It's on info wars calm
Starting point is 00:15:32 And it is thousands of armed men and camouflage coming across the US on horseback. This is an invasion Okay, okay Okay now hold on hold on and I mean I don't mean to poke a hole in this right away because I'm sure there's more to it All right, we're doing this I'm just saying that maybe if you're riding on horseback the Camouflage isn't in that big of a deal sure the horse You know camouflage at that point too and also a silent horse It would have to be a stealth horse or a silver stallion like the highway men
Starting point is 00:16:24 Even better doesn't have a mark on its silky hide that but it reflects moonlight at least Yeah sure Look, we're gonna get into what he's talking about and suffice it to say just up top This is a load of bullshit Thousands of he's being rushed to break and that's why he's got to describe it so like very dramatically and very shortly Yeah, thousands of men across America with guns on horseback Yeah, yeah, and look here. Yeah, there's no way to deal with the threat of this magnitude Dan
Starting point is 00:16:56 I'm laughing about this because it's so stupid and we'll get into why but like Legitimately if that's what he's selling to his audience the only solution is kill all those people, right? I mean like because he says this is an invasion if it's an invasion is being invaded All of his rhetoric would lead to the only conclusion being find these people and kill them And now you don't need to kill them because as I imagine is the case Alex has screamed over and over again We will give them no quarter, right? I mean kill them, but I mean you don't need to I there It's pretty easy to capture a lot of dudes on horseback what with the whole modern world
Starting point is 00:17:34 We live in sure like I imagine if we had if we had just one of our one battalion Go back in time. They could win every war like by themselves with guns though. Well. Yeah, but I mean throw rocks at it Basically gingus con but with guns, you know what? You go back into the old west and shoot at their horses legs and make them dance or put out And then they can't run so fast and then you catch them put out a strip of road spikes Pop the tires on those horses. Yeah, absolutely Can't oh it threw a shoe can't compete with that So so I also are they using roads what I like these men on horseback. They're not using roads where they're going
Starting point is 00:18:12 You don't need roads. There you go. So uh, look, this is This is some bullshit, I'll get into exactly what he's talking about I believe in a couple of clips, but alex has got to percolate on this. He's got to really ruminate about how This is just like the movie the road warrior in mexico because he's talking about people coming across the border spoiler alert okay, but Even in the movie the road warrior they had cars though Hmm Look, it's kind of a big deal in the movie the road warrior that they did have cars, but but he's talking spiritually
Starting point is 00:18:46 Uh, you know, oh, he isn't describing them as literally coming over on horseback. No, no, no that part is literal that part's Why is that part the literal part? Look, okay, fuck it. I'll get into No, no, no, let's just move on go to the next clip. I need to give an explanation of just the broad strokes Okay, the daily caller put out a video that alex is reporting on that Proports to show people crossing the border uh from mexico and there were a couple horses in the video That is why alex is expressing thousands are on horseback He didn't mention in that clip going out to break that it's people coming across the border. He's just saying they're coming across america They're coming across america in horses. So i'll explain in greater detail why this is bullshit in a second, but that
Starting point is 00:19:28 I realized that it's only fair that I explained that much right anyway back to the road warrior thing Thousands of illegal immigrants are being born after being hit inside of horses and walking across the border That's the easiest way to do it. Yeah, like ton ton. Yeah, anyway Here's where we get to the road warrior metaphor and it gets bad before it gets better It is literally road warrior type type in uh cartels building their own war wagons and tanks And there is footage that comes out of mexico youtube takes it down though because they don't want you seeing That's what it's even violent. It is violent, but it's not this graphics. What's on tv
Starting point is 00:20:05 Okay, and it's giant war wagon shooting at each other attacking blowing up running over people And you'll see like 15 war wagons and 50 cow machine guns and stuff exploding and people just running And Seven incredible narco tanks built by mexican cartels beyond mad max says business insider See beyond exactly what i told you It is Warrior Except it's not a guy named humongous going just give us the guys. We spell your lives
Starting point is 00:20:38 No, he's not wearing a jason mask It's not a bunch of gay punk rock dudes that are doing a killing. You know that sci-fi fiction Yeah It is mexicans with huge satanic tattoos that worship satan and the grim reaper That's pretty gay and punk rock tortures children to get demonic power Imagine a road warrior like that. That's also pretty uh blood bible adjacent quite frankly, but he's talking about mexican So it's really still bad. That's really bad. Yeah, it's real bad We're pretty much the most racist thing you can do. Oh boy. I mean, it's like he's saying it's like road war
Starting point is 00:21:16 But it's worse because it's mexican exactly and they're demonic mexican. Oh, yeah They're not they're not gay punk rockers. No They're demonic gay punk rockers. Alex has really lost any kind of credibility when he calls people demonic So it's just kind of like a fill-in. Yeah insult epithet here You can use to misalign these uh these mexicans. They do listen to a lot of moracy though, right now It gets worse in this next clip because he gets back to the road warrior thing a little bit later And he also combines it with another movie reference that is I've never seen footage this powerful. It's up on info wars.com. We can't tweet it out
Starting point is 00:21:55 But you can heavily armed individuals caught on camera entering country illegally through arizona ranch And it goes on to say Shows thousands of illegal aliens marching in the united states uninterrupted because there is no border wall No border patrol to stop them Yeah, and they have assault sure rifles And they have horses So it's like
Starting point is 00:22:24 road warrior meets planet of the apes Where you got people on horseback. Wow This is insane. Oh boy. Nice save. Oh boy because they're on horses. It's like uh plan to the apes Oh Alex careful. Oh boy. So, uh, it's like this subspecies of human that survived the apocalypse has been combined with this other subspecies of ape and the it's not that I'm describing all mexicans As a subspecies boy, it's easy for me to do it. It sure seems like I am but like multiple subspecies at the same time So I uh, I found this video. It's a 25 minute video and actually if you read the daily caller article
Starting point is 00:23:06 This is from like, uh clips that this guy has had hidden cameras up at his house since 2016 So it's over the course of what could be two two years and nine months now Of footage, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I watched it. Alex is saying it's thousands of Immigrants who are coming in first of all, there's no way to know if these are illegal immigrants Or just people who are wandering around in the in the wilderness. Well, he's got a hidden camera There's no timestamps on any of this stuff a number of the people appear to be caucasian Uh, so there's a lot of like very imprecise stuff going on caucasians can illegally immigrate. No totally totally That's you know what?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Totally opportunity fair enough So I I set out to watch this entire video and count literally every person that's in it because I'm like thousands I don't think so. So I watched it. I got to the 10 minute mark before I saw literally repeated footage It's the same footage. No shit. And also if you watch it, it's like these are you see the same people from different cameras Like it's the same group of people at different points along the way No, shit But even assuming that every single person that you see in all of these videos are a unique person within 10 minutes I counted 374 people. So extrapolate that out multiply that by two and a half. You got what?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Maybe 800 people. Yeah, probably that like I'm saying there's repeated people It's nonsense. This is all bullshit. And some of them do have guns, but the vast majority don't You know what I'm saying? Like most of them just have big packs on their back and like Alex is saying that's all drugs But it's equally likely that it's rations. It's equally likely that a lot of these people have supplies in order to get Uh through this journey through central america. Yeah up to uh up to the united states There's nothing in this in these videos that really leads me to believe that first of all This is an invading army on horseback and second like I said, there's only like maybe three or four horses in the entire thing And no one's riding them
Starting point is 00:25:06 Well, people are standing next to the horses You gotta you can't ride them on your way to the fight. You got to fight while riding them So you want to keep them well rested fair enough. Yeah, that's just good tactics, Dan There's incredible. I've studied Hannibal. There's incredible exaggeration going on here There's incredible unclearness of what the video even is capturing It's very irresponsible the way Alex is presenting this because like I said in that first clip The only reasonable conclusion to come to that Alex is advocating for is kill these people They're an invading army on horseback with heavy weapons
Starting point is 00:25:38 So this is so this is a this is just white supremacist propaganda that's being put out now I mean sure who edited the so this is the daily caller which is run by tucker carlson Or at least was started by tucker carlson. No if I understand. Sorry, I I I'm not sure if I caught the the whole first part. It's just some guy's house some rancher He has hidden cameras around the article, but I don't really yeah I don't really care who so he sends in the raw footage and they edit it Or do you think he edited himself 76 years old? Okay, he definitely did not edit it. Maybe a son right like that. I would assume that daily caller did it
Starting point is 00:26:12 Right, so they so we're in a so that's why I was a little bit confused because I I was just imagining this dude Who has a bunch of hidden cameras right who is editing this footage? And that's just a guy who's filled with so much hate that he can't even get past the fact that It's not a big deal and his own footage proves it Well, I mean he has a 50,000 square acre ranch. I believe right. I believe that was the um That was the total given just huge That's massive and so if he has cameras around that place and what he's capturing over the course of almost three years Is maybe 800 people assuming that they aren't the same people at different locations
Starting point is 00:26:52 That's not impressive to me. Nothing. That's really weak I'm surprised it's not more and some of them do have guns. Yes, but again, so does the fucking rancher Well, sure. And but like i'm saying too is that You don't have proof that these people are illegal Undocumented immigrants coming in all you have is a video of people walking around And so if they do have guns you need to do better to prove That what you're saying is the reality before i'm gonna get mad about a couple of them having guns I would I would have actually been like if he had just said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:26 I think there might be some people hunting on my land. I'd be like, yeah, fuck. Yeah, they you've got a thing there I mean, it's but illegal immigrants carrying guns through that you got a large you got a larger florida You you want to you want to file a complaint about trespass? Yeah, i'm on your side. I'm with you They shouldn't be people shouldn't be on your land right and then to the other issue They're all like most of them are wearing camouflage, but like I don't give a shit about that either like People who are coming across You know trying to get up to america, of course, they're gonna wear camouflage. That doesn't prove they're an army Or something like that like alex is trying to present. It's all just a load of bullshit
Starting point is 00:28:01 So anyway, now if they were wearing sniper suits and moving very very slowly like if all of this hidden camera footage showed Was like a whole bunch of hay bales just slow like over the course of two and a half years They go from one edge to the other The longest now that's perfect. Yeah, i'm on your team. That's an invading army is what that is that's footage I could get behind and publicize. Oh, yeah, I will help you with that So that's a load of bullshit and that's his sort of varsity narrative throughout most of the show Which is disgraceful and really ugly But uh, it leads to this next clip where alex spins a conspiracy about what he thinks is going on with immigration
Starting point is 00:28:42 and then at the end of this he makes A very bold very bold claim. Okay, and the un Now stages in guatemala All right, we're up to good start and i'll salvatore three giant migrant centers for all over the world To give them several thousand dollars a piece A bag of of food and other necessities clothing you name it and then staging zones And the mexicans let them go up the railways. They say don't go into mexico And then they hit the us with the democratic groups waiting to snatch them up
Starting point is 00:29:18 To be a client group They control for illegal voting political activities and now ms 13 has been confirmed to be carrying out assassinations for the democratic party That's why 13 is now a murder arm Bacon lovers we ship free Completely forgot that I left in that clip of the commercial Uh Is what makes it perfect jarring juxtaposition ms 13 is now a hired kill group for the democrats bacon lovers unite we now ship free
Starting point is 00:29:57 All right, man. First off u.n. I got a guy who can hook you up with some buckets. You don't need. Oh, that's true I know that guy too. Oh, yeah, very reputable. We can get some buckets all over this place. Absolutely Hell, yeah Now to the point of like whether or not people are helping immigrants on their way up through Central america or anything like that. I would say that that's a right christianly thing to do the idea that without some sort What christianity are you talking about? I mean without some sort of like, uh water or anything like that I mean, it's the same thing. You're not going to stop people from trying to seek refuge In america. You're not going to do that. No, you're gonna stop them
Starting point is 00:30:32 And when it's venezuela's job to make sure that immigrants don't get into america That's just true. But you you're as long as The world operates in the way that it does you're never going to be able to stop people from trying to save their own lives By getting out of bad situations. Yeah, they're going to try and come to america And if you crack down and you're like you're evil for giving them water along the way All you're gonna do is make sure that more of them die That's you aren't you aren't going to stop the impetus to come Uh to america. Yeah, you're not gonna solve the problem you want to solve
Starting point is 00:31:04 You're just going to be cruel to the people who are desperate and fleeing a bad situation That's never happened before everybody knows that when you ban abortion, right good things always happen, right? It's a no babies ever get aborted. It's a perfect analog. Yeah, you get rid of legal abortion. All you do is kill women That's all you do. Yeah, and just as jesus said the way you treat the least of these is Fucking dope and keep on doing it. Sure. Yeah, you remember when jesus said that? Yeah, you know remember when jesus said bacon lovers Jesus ships bacon for free. See now that it was a really that's why he got crucified right the jews could not be having somebody Shipping free bacon. I'm into this conspiracy. That is just crazy. It's better than alex's version of this stupid They just want democratic voters. But I mean, that's just you know, white nationalist rhetoric
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's du regour for them to just be like all the democrats want is People to come vote and they can't vote but they still vote and they vote in dead people's names and Yeah, whites only Anyway, yep, jordan. Yep. It's interesting because for years alex has been I don't know. I think that back in the day Maybe I might be a little bit wrong about this But at my sense from listening to the a lot of stuff in 2008 2009 alex is pretty against racial profiling Because at least on some baseline level he understands that group culpability is not a way to proceed with life
Starting point is 00:32:32 You would hope no, I I believe that to be now I don't know if he is perfectly consistent in that back then But I get I get a strong sense from him that like, you know, you don't commit a composition fallacy and assume the group Is represented by bad examples of individuals Unfortunately in 2018. He is really into racial profiling, of course They haven't stopped one terror attack with all that tsa crud. They need to profile islamic extremist period Problem solved problem solved. Okay Oh, they they profile conservatives facebook and all these systems discriminate against us
Starting point is 00:33:08 You're part of a radical sect of islam. You're connected to these groups It goes to that database and flags your butt. You're gonna get pulled out and you're gonna get questioned You're gonna get extra screening. That's what you do I don't think that first of all, I don't I don't trust alex's assessment of what constitutes a radical islamic group So I think that conversation could get awful murky awful quick I think it's a very simple all of them anybody who appears to be at all of middle eastern descent Right, exactly. Just like if you were to uh, I don't know Say that everybody who it looks like a member of a radical militant white supremacist group
Starting point is 00:33:45 Should be profiled problem solved. We don't have to deal with radical white Uh supremacist groups anymore, right? Well, you're using his uh logic to prove that it's stupid Ah, yes, I am dad. Uh, and this is stupid. This is very disgraceful. I mean, I'm gonna use that word a lot today, but like That's so Terrible even for alex. It's bad. It's embarrassing for alex too because I mean He's not but there was a time he was better than that I think and to hear him advocate for out and out Racial profiling because he's afraid of muslims. Yeah is just pathetic. It's it's It
Starting point is 00:34:22 For someone who wants to act like he has principles and he's standing up for america and what it stands for and all this To hear this kind of drivel come out of his mouth is just like just go home, man You're you're done. Go to bed. You're go to bed. Yeah, you're out of the game, man Yeah, you're like an old dude yelling about music today. Yeah, that's what you do You have outlived your usefulness even to Your world and that's bad. Yeah, that's rough. That's bad because like people These old assholes like Jerome Corsi are still useful. You know what I'm saying? It's nuts Anyway, uh for mule muler. Yeah, certainly useful for that
Starting point is 00:34:59 Anyway, um, look, I suppose I suppose he does have a he does have one point Which is that careful the easy way to keep immigrants from Escaping their terrible situations to come to america is to turn america into a shithole. They don't want to come to And it seems like they're doing a pretty great job of that right now Sure, or just say none of them. Just like yeah make it illegal to be different Yeah, that's that does seem like different in heavy quotes. That's that that seems like that's their goal Nobody hates america more than people who call themselves patriots So I might be a little bit wrong. Um in terms of you know, giving alex this sort of pass or credibility for his past self
Starting point is 00:35:41 Of being against racial profiling. Yeah, but this next clip is absolutely Anathema to what he would have ever believed in uh mere years ago. In fact, I'll say it Apprehensions of illegals are up 240 percent according to ice. It isn't enough Trump is in dereliction of duty Two years in he's not good enough. I want that it's in the constitution full military. I want the army I want the marine corps. I want 200 000 troops on that border I want it shut down One million percent
Starting point is 00:36:17 So in the past alex has called for the national guard being used to police the border Right, and everyone called him a hypocrite and I said no He's not because that is something that can be done under the direction of the governor of the state Right, so if the governor of texas wanted to call in the national guard to do that It would not be against alex's principles Him saying that the federal fucking government should do it is very much against What are you talking about federalized troops would be operating within the state No, maybe the governor wouldn't be okay with it. Come on that is directly against everything that we've heard him talk about
Starting point is 00:36:54 When we're looking at 2009 all of these 10th amendment resolutions and shit like that all of them This is completely counter to it. He doesn't even bring up the idea of a governor's support or anything like that This is him advocating for Federalization it's him arguing for tyranny. Don't you remember how much he loved jade helm loved it Don't you remember how many times the federal government has mobilized troops to do something very innocuous exercise Yeah, some training bullshit. He loved it. He loved it. This is Bring federal troops into my state says alex jones Now I don't know all the governorships along the mexican border
Starting point is 00:37:34 But we just need to imagine a scenario wherein one of them is democrat Right. Yeah, and is against the idea of bringing in the federal troop or even a republican who's like no, absolutely not Then what you have is a crisis that alex should be on the side of the governors But now will not be absolutely lost his way entirely. Yeah, this is this Is where people should be calling him a hypocrite like before there were articles and all the publications right wing watch Was putting out stuff about how alex is calling for the national guard to come in to stop that train Of immigrants that were coming up even though that train of immigrants is something that happens every year. It's a symbolic Uh, sort of protest thing
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's not even like some sort of threatening group of immigrants coming up through central america But they wrote about how alex was saying bring in the national guard when if they understood what alex stood for They would know this isn't the problem for him. This fucking is It bothers me. Yes. No one's going to talk about it Well, the only other way that it could make sense for his principles is if he wants the federal army on the other side of the border Which would be declaring war on mexico I think his anti interventionist stuff would be against that too. Oh, that's a good point because ron paul boner would be uh, uh Well, it would be quelled by that idea. Yeah, you could say that you don't want to get in foreign entanglements
Starting point is 00:38:53 That would be so costly. It is fine though. If you are on horseback That is true or if anyone is near a horse in a video that's on the daily caller And then it fucking is very reasonable to go to war. Absolutely. So, um, we know From looking back at 2008 2009 that alex jones did not know who george soros was With his globalists that he would talk about where the rock of fellers the fort foundation Uh, those were the people who were roth's child Absolutely, they were in play back then those were the people that were his big enemies and he Uh, most recently on an episode the episodes that we've done. We've seen george soros be brought up
Starting point is 00:39:31 But alex is almost confused by it. He's not someone who's in uh play So that makes me think that this next clip is bullshit You let one of these third world countries collapse into you you go bankrupt. Oh, I forgot Did you What's george soros want? Dogs before he spent tens of billions of dollars buying up the media in the us and buying pr for himself When I was a young man when I was a kid and when I was in high school My mom always had pbs on cooking dinner
Starting point is 00:40:04 Whenever I came home or whatever she was always there at five six o'clock for like an hour and a half cooking a Huge, you know six dish meal gourmet food So I showed up for dinner a lot of times bring my girlfriend over And It was always on pbs and and and and abc and everywhere that george soros is a criminal He overthrows countries all he wants to do is collapse things and he's an insider trader Not anymore
Starting point is 00:40:36 He's the sweet little nazi collaborator. We almost kiss his little wart covered booty I don't believe anything about that. First of all, I said no I do soros was or his importance in the world until at least sometime in 2009 And I don't believe that pbs spent all of their time in the 80s talking about how it was a big deal in the 80s pbs You don't remember when pbs pbs went on that soros jag. I remember when he was uh, uh subject of investigation on three two one contact Oh pbs
Starting point is 00:41:10 Where where did you lose your way? You were once the vanguard against the in the fight against soros. Come on man I don't believe this for a fucking oh that fight against soros was supported by viewers like you and the letter l for I should have chose a different letter. Yeah Anyway, uh in this next clip alex is uh He's going on a bit of a rant about china and how they're evil and they like to kill gays Uh, yeah, that's way different. I only keep from I only keep republicans
Starting point is 00:41:43 I only I only keep this clip in because I think alex is relishing talking about this a little too much And it's gonna lead to him having a little bit of a breakdown later. So it's good for context They there was one photo of two lesbians two 16 year old girls that got caught In their dorm area having sex And they took them out and they blew their brains all over the walls You want to see those photos type it in But tim cooks gay so it's okay It's so liberal to blow women's brains all over the wall if you're liberal and you're gay then it's good
Starting point is 00:42:20 And the homophobe alex jones hates gay people because he doesn't blow their brains all over the wall And he's not a nazi collaborator like george soros They got sick that ish. They got evil that ish So, uh, I I mean look all all I want to say about that is that he's that voice is Disgusting and and what he's expressing is disgusting because as we've covered At nauseam. He's very much a homophobe. Oh, yeah, he is whether or not he thinks that I'm I'm cool I'm cool with that. I'm a libertarian. Hey, he's viscerally Whatever you do in your own home is fine with me
Starting point is 00:42:57 He's viscerally angry at the lgbt community and likens them to pedophiles all the time Well, yeah, but that's because they don't like him And there's no reason that they wouldn't like him other than if they were What he purports them to be definitely not that he purports them to be such right? So when he's talking about that like Putting it shooting their brains on the wall So it's just you're getting too into it. That's gross and it leads to this I just don't know how I get called homophobic and all this make up rap
Starting point is 00:43:29 When I say you should not have people sexualizing kids period and they have the lgbt groups saying I'm a homophobe when it's Apple working with china that literally murders gay people and I'm not saying that because our next guest is gay What about russia gets a fact they murder gay people It drives me crazy. Sorry, we go to our guest here in a moment I'm getting mad Yeah, you should be because you're you're caught. You're caught in a little web of your own uh Lack of ability to wiggle around this stuff. Yeah, you're screaming. What about russia? Yeah, absolutely If I can talk about that then alex you dumb twat. Yeah, if you hate if you yeah, if you hate it whenever
Starting point is 00:44:09 governments and people's Find it acceptable to kill gay people boy You got a lot of options there, dude Or like you even uh sort of referenced earlier the You know if the right wing really does become ascendant and you know that that sort of religious conservative wing comes in They want it to happen. Absolutely. And and the absolutely and the things the policies that they would try and put forth in terms of making lgbt youth feel more weird Uh conversion therapy becoming more uh
Starting point is 00:44:42 Recommended and that sort of thing all it's gonna do is lead to those people killing themselves. Yeah youth I mean, that's that's the end result. Yeah drastically homophobic No, the right wing in this country has accepted that it's not okay to just murder gay people Yeah, but they like with abortion they will do everything possible to Make sure they die. Yeah, like like it's hey. Hey, we're not killing gay people We're just creating all of this circumstances necessary for gay people to die. It's not like we're doing it We believe in self determination, right? We want you to determine to fucking kill yourself Because we determine that you should right so fucking horrific deal with that alex
Starting point is 00:45:27 Uh, but look so he his next guest is gay. Cool. Great. So He has Skype problems and they're not able to get a hold of him and so alex is trying to vamp That's a metaphor. This is so funny. Let me tell you something that's very important while we're getting our guest on And it's this Just like our information here on air is world changing Words words words words words words words words words I'm saying words. Just like our information is
Starting point is 00:46:02 Powerful stretch stretch it out stretch it. We're having technical issues stretch Our products are the same Good work, you know, I don't just sit here and tell you That Keep going we've still got issues. Come on. Keep it rolling. They're my cup. Excuse me a lot of stuff going on here before on the scenes Just like our information. Yeah start over. Yeah stretch it a little bit longer Our products are game changing If you don't have oxygen you die. I know they'll say that's a conspiracy theory if you don't have water
Starting point is 00:46:48 In a week generally water is three days if you don't have Iodine you die you finally got there There you go. Wow Clearly having someone talking his ear about like we we can't get this guy on the show There's an issue. Come on stretch. You got a And we are Oh boy product our products are
Starting point is 00:47:14 What's that? Hold on. I'm hearing something about they're good. They're good. Also, it's it's you know fun Not fun for him to talk about like you need oxygen to live you need water to live considering His boy trump just said that uh only six to 18 people died in uh in uh maria in hurricane maria in portorico When in reality a lot of people died because they ran out of oxygen because there was no electricity and a lot of people died Because they didn't have water so I Don't understand how Just denying the death toll. It's weird. It's not enough to get you removed from office. You should go to the haig
Starting point is 00:47:51 Shouldn't that yeah, that should be the biggest story President denies earth That you you should be removed then that's a 25th. Look, that's all you need the 20th The president doesn't believe in reality. We have to let him go. You gotta let you go, man trump You're cool. You gotta go. You gotta go It would be like uh tj lavin on that season of the real world road rules challenge Sure, it'd be like that and uh ct punch davis and then passed out drunk
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, and uh tj lavin had to come in and wake up uh wake up ct. He's like hey ct Sorry, man, but you gotta go. You gotta go. You gotta go. You know what the real world road rules challenge is my uh Is my pokebop. He's drunkenly like in a stupor in his bed. He's like, what do I do? He's like you punch davis, man You gotta go and he's like who who's that that gay kid? You gotta go Anyway, that's what trump is like. You gotta gotta go. You just gotta go. Yeah How is he not gone? I don't know. It's crazy. It seems like there should be something going on. It's crazy
Starting point is 00:48:58 Wow power people want power God Wow, it's nuts Anyway, uh, they finally get their tech difficulties worked out after alex vamps for what seems like a political season It seems like an entire four years Coast to coast that he's doing there, but he finally gets him on the phone And I don't want to listen to this guy too much. I don't even remember what his name is But he's the guy who started that hashtag walk away trend on twitter. Um, it's the idea of it is that like, um
Starting point is 00:49:29 He's a democrat and he's trying to get people to walk away from the democratic party because they don't they don't represent him anymore They've done. I mean, that's a that's a depending on his reasons. I'm willing to entertain that notion not to say he has any, um Nefarious intent or anything like that But if you want to look into it, there's a great salon article about how they did some research into the uh, The accounts that were promoting that hashtag after it was put out and there is a very Very high incidence of russian bots, huh that we're promoting that walk away campaign. So strange how that tends to happen Yeah, it's probably a coincidence. It's almost like somebody pays them. Yeah to do it nuts Almost like there's they're they're not even a government arm and more like a four hire service that if you have billions of dollars
Starting point is 00:50:15 And want to spread an idea you can just hire them special and they'll they'll give it a visibility Yep, it seems that way. But anyway, um, he put on facebook that he was going to go on alex jones' show It was something to the effect of patriots. I'm going on info wars. All right. Well, then now now i'm not i'm not uh, uh If you if you say patriots, i'm i'm kind of out. So after that his facebook got locked and he could call um He was understandably mad about it. And so he you know send an email or whatever to the powers that be at facebook They uh looked at it and like oh, this was a mistake. Uh, here is your account back He got it unlocked. This all happened before thursday. This is the thursday I didn't even mention this. This is the thursday september 13th episode. Oh, okay by the morning of thursday
Starting point is 00:51:08 He's had his account back open for Since the night before it was tuesday night or uh wednesday night whenever he got all of his access back Oh, so it was really quickly resolved. Yeah, because it was actually a pretty good solid customer services. That's way better than comcast sure, so he uh Unfortunately is still going around everywhere and showing up on alex's show on thursday Trying to pitch the idea that he just said info wars and he got banned for 30 days When in reality by this point he has his account back. They apologized for the mistake that they made and everything should be fine But because alex wants to try and pitch the idea that if you say info wars, you're banned from everything
Starting point is 00:51:50 He's having him on and letting him spout his bullshit Which is really about him trying to raise money for a walk away march that he's trying to run If anybody would like to contribute they can go to walkway march.com and please click Fundraising that'll take you to our fund me. Of course. We're always looking for any kind of Sponsors or donations from people who are at a larger level level if they're able to but i'm telling you i was devastated yesterday alex I mean i was ready to shut the march down entirely because i thought You still can't pull this off if i can't communicate with my people Like i said my team and i've kind of worked on a workaround. We think it's gonna be okay
Starting point is 00:52:24 Emailing facebook they're trying to get people like me who are trying to have a voice and make a difference To cower and say you know what i'm not as they're bigger than me. They're stronger than me I might as well quit. I might as well give up because how can I fight against them? I think you should you can fight against them by writing an email getting your fucking account back you dick It's not hard. This is such bullshit. They're trying to present this image of like i'm Oh, i've been because i have i'm so enterprising. It's like david versus goliath I found a workaround to get my account and be able to access and talk to people when it's like no Facebook recognized that they made a mistake
Starting point is 00:52:59 Uh, and whatever it was whether it's some capricious employee who like uh put his account on a suspension Or if it was some sort of automated thing that it got caught somehow They said oh, sorry fucked up here. Here's your account. Sorry. We unlocked it our bad Not hard to do and he's trying to present it is like we're these fucking oppressed people They're like no, you're not stop it. Stop it. I do like the I do like any time any time somebody uses workaround Like you're gonna need to give me specifics on your quote-unquote workaround because it makes it seem like oh, we outsmarted them That's not what a workaround is. Yeah, he's acting like he like is a hacker. Yeah Yeah, we we broke into their code and we coded stuff like in the movie swordfish
Starting point is 00:53:46 Nope Facebook said me a culpa and acted appropriately so I don't care about the rest of the shit he's talking about because it's nonsense and quite frankly We we we got a bit to get through Of the best stuff ever. Okay, uh, but before we get there Alex has a little prediction about what's gonna happen to president Donald john trump. Oh, I hope he gets killed a little bit from George straight right now. I watch this video
Starting point is 00:54:10 You Now you buy that I got some motion from property You know, I got a signal from high level folks You are going to have oceanfront property in arizona shortly They know what's going on And not from steve patenek. It was from people at fort bragg and they said sounds like it's from steve patenek They said Alex we believe march is when they're gonna try to kill the president March
Starting point is 00:54:41 And they said we're ready And just you need to be ready and I said should I relay that info and they said well The enemy may change their operations But it's definitely being directed from china. Oh and they plan to kill trump in march I thought I would just let people know that fort bragg's preparing for that. They think something's in march of next year but Who knows the enemy could change their plan
Starting point is 00:55:05 I don't know when it's thousands of armed men on horseback with giant drug packages coming across one ranch All confirmed info wars.com daily caller Whoop-de-shit all conferred all confirmed all conferred you see in there how he plays his games He's like saying that fort bragg it's not steve patenek telling me this which leads me to believe that first of all Totally steve patenek either that or he recognizes that steve patenek has been burned and been wrong way too many times on his show And he knows that everyone's going to assume that steve patenek saying that right like no no no wasn't it wasn't it? Yeah, so then he comes in with this they think it's going to be in march. They're going to kill trump but Everything can change they can change their all we know is that china's behind it
Starting point is 00:55:46 But when it doesn't happen just know that I said things can change the goblets change their plans all the time Right, so i'm saying this but it doesn't really fucking mean anything now the other thing is I think he is trying to evoke the aides of march I think he is I think that makes sense because in the past he has referred to trump as our caesar He has he has used caesar as a analog for trump. That's a really bad thing You know, it's even worse than you think Because alex's big book that he basically because he just said that the government should bring their fucking military Across our goddamn nation and he described him as caesar. Do you think there might be some sort of?
Starting point is 00:56:23 I Don't know reference there I don't yeah, but I don't care about that because okay for my for me What it goes to is that in a none dare call it conspiracy the book that alex jones is based most of his career on Caesar is used as an example of what happens when a psychopath is born super rich, huh in the book Gary allen is describing the idea of like hey, there are these people who go out and murder You know because they they're born crazy. There's just these vicious psychopaths out there serial killers exist Exactly, but they are only able to kill like one or two three four five people because they were born into humble circumstances
Starting point is 00:57:05 But what happens when a psychopath is born into the lap of luxury and power? That's what happens with caesar. I can't imagine is used as an example of that So when alex compares caesar to trump He well, it's a good he's indicating that either he hasn't read the book that he's basing his life on or he's completely lost Track of anything it's it's a good thing that this is purely a hypothetical It's a good thing that we have no real world concrete examples of psychopaths being born into wealth There's there's that's a laughable situation dan right. How dare you even bring it up to me? It is so beyond the realm of understanding. I I understand but like, uh, gary allen's assessment is a little bit
Starting point is 00:57:52 Baseline real surface, but at the same time, you know, yeah, sure psychopaths are born into rich places oftentimes though what you end up with is Well, no they do the similar shit the poor psychopath. Yeah, but a lot of times they can sublimate it into like, um You know getting their jollies off of crushing competition and stuff like that As opposed to actually murdering. Yeah. Yeah, which is something that isn't accessible to or they can do both If you're william randolph-hurst Sure, and there are other examples too, but be that as it may alex is fucking stupid. That is crazy nonsense Trump isn't going to be killed in march, but alex already knows that and he's laid track for it
Starting point is 00:58:29 Plans can change now march is also a good time to say now because then you've got a long wait And people will forget that you even yeah, you people forget you even said it and anybody who did bring it up Then you could then you've got the hedge you got at least three months of pretending It's going to happen and then four months of time To get it out of people's memory exactly and in that time you can raise a bunch of money with the panic of what's coming The summer of rage the summer of rage. Oh, yeah It's all bullshit the winter of our mal content. Yeah, so alex now Wants to talk about the immigrants that are in europe as opposed to the immigrants that he hates here
Starting point is 00:59:06 Don't think what he's saying here is true And that's it. That's why 80 plus percent of the islamic Middle-eastern north african invaders who were brought in the last five years to europe now. It's 12 million of them 80 plus percent never get a job and you know who they deport Anyone that converts to christianity this is the news What one gets a job? So you're out of north africa the middle east you go i want to be a christian and i want a job and i like this I don't like that your ass is shipped out. I don't like that at all
Starting point is 00:59:41 You're like you you want to walk around your nightgown all day and wipe your ass with your hand and do all the rest of it You are Staying you are golden, baby All right All right, this is this is the most uh, this is non-stop racism. I've heard from uh from our show Like we've we've covered a lot of non-stop racism, but man This is like heavy hitting like but haymakers left and right of racism and just the wide spectrum Oh, yeah, he's going after me. Oh, mexicans get out of there north africans get out of there. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:00:15 He's going to the lgbt community. He's he's calling everybody. Oh, yeah So on some level I do think that our prediction of like he's gonna have no reason to hold back anymore It seems like it's fairly accurate. Yeah He can just call immigrants invaders. I mean he does that anyway. That's right new But he seems to be relishing it a lot more. He does it. He does seem to enjoy his newfound A lack of consequences. Yeah, yeah But look he has a theory here in this next clip about what happens if you are against info wars And as someone who is against info wars and has been putting out, uh, two to three
Starting point is 01:00:52 Long podcasts about that very thing every week for two years I will say that what what he's about to say happens when you are against info wars Not true. Are you sure not true? Well, I will withhold judgment because I am also against it But I don't know what he's about to say. So maybe he's right Sorry, two false starts there. Here we go If you lie about info wars or or a property body else, they push your video the big thing about Ah
Starting point is 01:01:26 I mean Alex would suggest that we're lying about him And no one is pushing. No one's pushing our shit, man. No, no, sir Now so that's funny. But what he says next is even funnier The big thing about killing on the no is they never get demonetized. They just got banned from red Because it's literal delusional garbage. I mean I talked to folks Trump hates sessions He hates mohler, you know, it's a real death battle. It's it's not oh mohler is good and alex is bad He'll sue me and get no alex's alex was actually the bad guy
Starting point is 01:01:58 You said all we all go down the rabbit hole. We all go together this cult talk I'll get to that later. But this whole situation Alex says all the time we hang together or we hang separate How is that in any way different than what he's saying q anon is saying that's cult shit Now beyond that this is so fucking funny to me because he's been vaguely anti q anon for the entire time It's been going on but only because he wants zack to be more important Yeah, he wants his version of q anon to be the one that goes viral and it fucking didn't so he's been petty and jealous about that But at the same time
Starting point is 01:02:32 Jerome corsi has been on his payroll Jerome corsi was writing a goddamn book about decoding the truths of q anon god damn it So this whole time he's been paying Jerome corsi to write Also, I'm not gonna lie to you. What very simple explanation alex. Um Here's why q anon is more popular Uh It's anon and your dude is named zack. That's a pr- yeah q anon Fun to say very exciting much. You don't know who that guy is
Starting point is 01:03:04 Zack he was on saved by the bell man Yeah, nobody's gonna fourth wall break this bullshit And also I think that one of the things that appealed to people about q anon is the idea that you have to put the pieces together yourself You know, there is an element of like a nice little mystery I think you said it on a recent episode like make make me feel like i'm smart for figuring this out Yeah, and I think that q anon appealed to people's desire to pretend their detectives and like figure out Oh, what does this cryptic nonsense mean and alex doesn't provide them with that because he's just like I'm talking about china trying to kill crump and these immigrants that are coming in with their battle system
Starting point is 01:03:39 And they're on horseback and they have guns too specific too specific back off back off and our products are Game changing It's like you don't have any subtext There's nothing there's no mystery to figure out here And that's why whenever we go back and listen to episodes to try and trace his path on stuff It's not that hard it takes a long time because you have to listen to the episodes and you have to digest what he's saying Yeah, but in terms of solving a mystery he just tells you everything
Starting point is 01:04:13 Yeah, pretty much you just the which is comforting for the people who listen to him I assume maybe but I don't think they're paying attention The only thing that you really have to do is be able to suss out when he's telling the truth And when he's lying and bragging and stuff like that, which I think if you listen to it enough You can kind of get the tone in his voice. There's there's There's there's tricks about yeah at this point I feel like even without any of your research I would be able to just by ear be like that part's bullshit. Yeah. Oh
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you know, it sounds like it might be plausible But guess what I heard the I heard the lilt. Uh-huh. That's a lie. Yeah, that's the plot of uh early hg wells Yeah, exactly. That is not uh, yeah Listen up more lock. Fuck off So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's not really all that important It's just alex saying that he thinks that the border patrol is nice now. Oh, they're nice. Are they too nice now? I don't think he said too nice, but he's saying they're like they're cool Oh, are they not sure are there are there more children in detention now than there were
Starting point is 01:05:14 Uh, just a few short weeks ago whenever the government whenever the justice system said that that shouldn't fucking be happening period He denies that that's the case That doesn't read that's not real the children who are Being held. It's good that they are And then also the aclu is somehow to blame. I don't care. I don't want to get into it. All right. All right The aclu set up the system. What which is not what the aclu does, but I don't really give a shit I mean I give a shit about the people who are being you know mistreated and stuff like that But I don't really care about alex's version of it because it's not really that much of the episode
Starting point is 01:05:48 No, it's just sort of in passing. Yeah, and it's so much more important that at this point. Oh, and shroyer joins the proceedings Why is oh and shroyer there because alex is having some fucking issues about his masculinity And he needs to sit down with oh and shroyer and get to the bottom Okay, okay this This is a mic down this the rest of the episode is mic down for me, huh? No, no, no, this is only going to cover a little bit and then we will have the The coup de gras at the end. All right, uh, but this clip
Starting point is 01:06:19 This made me laugh so fucking hard when I was listening to this Nothing like some good old country on the open road, huh? Absolutely, you know, you ever see these guys that strut around Try to act big and tough and it you look at them. It seems annoying Like you're you know trying to act like an alpha male. Yeah, but you know, maybe I was the person that was cowed Because it's up to us that our alpha males actually care about society to not let the weird little twisted beta males Uh, who crave power dominate us and they know that we have a conscience so they manipulate it
Starting point is 01:06:51 So so here's an example I've got and I'm not bragging about it. It's actually freakish. Yes, you are my neck is freakishly large 20 inches and it's not fat and my chest is freakishly large I mean my chest is almost as big as Arnold Schwarzenegger's. Oh, yeah Okay, then I got a big belly too, but the whole point is is that ever since high school Like big tough guys would say oh, you're a punk. You want to fight when you walk around with your chest stuck out I was like, no, I'm just standing up straight might have to stand up straight. I'm not standing up straight. It looks ridiculous And so the point is is that my so since I was a teenager
Starting point is 01:07:21 I kind of like act like I'm a little wizard, you know, I walk around I kind of just do like this so people don't recognize me or mess with me But you know what now that people attack me for the first time in my life. It's not an arrogance. It's a pride Now I went walking into a grocery store this morning I actually walked like a man supposed to walk and everybody was looking at me and they were like damn that guy looks like a badass And the whole point was All of that now is the fact they're attacking me and I'm more proud than I've ever been And I don't say like I was ashamed of myself before I wasn't trying to stand out before
Starting point is 01:07:49 Because I was already confident But now that they want to come boo at me at tables and boo at me on the street and and take that down and like You know just me like 18 try to make me ashamed of myself Now because they're doing that Now now I'm going to actually hold my head. I so now I walked into hotel the other night to this interview And I walked right in there and I walked through my head up chest out everything else Every woman basically came running and again, it's not bragging about
Starting point is 01:08:20 I'm handsome. It's it's not that it's it's confidence It's that america has the will has the spirit has the destiny has the future But those of us that are strong We are reserved because we were almost embarrassed by our power. Okay By the way, hey dan hold on one second that whole time. Owen shroyer is sitting there silently like daddy Could you could you please play the first? Uh, I don't know 30 seconds of that clip one more time. Sure Nothing like some good old country on the open road. That's all you need right now. You ever see these guys just strut around. There we go
Starting point is 01:08:54 Keep going. Okay See these guys strut around you look at them. It seems annoying Seems annoying trying to act like an alpha male trying to act like an alpha male maybe I was the person that was called Okay, now you can stop right there. Okay, you ever see these guys dan. Yeah, who walk around the chest out annoying chest out Looking annoying trying to act like an alpha male trying to flex Uh, have you ever heard the second fucking half of that clip where he describes exactly that goddamn behavior?
Starting point is 01:09:23 I got a big old neck. I walk into the store with uh, my Chest out and ladies come around Yes, you you I'd like to remind you that like That's the most projecty projection i've ever heard projected Earlier in the episode alex said that there's an invading army coming from mexico and uh, by the way The eastern seaboard is about to be hit by a giant hurricane that he never mentions once in this entire episode But he does have to spend time talking about how big his chest is to oan
Starting point is 01:09:54 He has to impress oan because oan represents youth. It's what he's lost oan represents god What if he drinks oan's blood you might what if he spends 18 000? Why would he know the exact price of a quart of a child's blood if he did not? Buy children's blood dan seems like he might have an Into the market i think he knows but you know oan really i think i touched on something there He represents that thing that alex cannot get back And i think you like the two of them have this weird uh paternal Child relationship going on like oan really wants to impress alex and alex really wants to impress oan
Starting point is 01:10:32 Like there is of it's not a employee employer relationship. They've got going on. It's a weird dudes or gross relationship Well, there's a point. I don't have the clip of it, but there's a point where oan is like alex alex alex. You are a bad ass Calm down He has to like reassure him He's a badass There's nothing less badass than somebody being like hey, no You are a badass. You're such as the bad boy. Who's a badass as you that's who you are So ostensibly the reason that oan's supposed to be on is because that video that was in the daily caller came out
Starting point is 01:11:09 And oan went to a uh, I guess liberal Meeting of some sort. I don't know sure um, and he asked the speaker about it about the uh, like what about all these Armored men coming across the border and also What about abortion and the speaker is like uh, oh looks like info wars is here And they're like anybody else got a question What's really funny is that after that oan is like i've got a stack of news here He's literally he said he has a stack of news in the video they play from him going to this meeting Oh, i've never been proud of the meeting. He has a stack never been prouder. You could almost see a gleam and alex is
Starting point is 01:11:46 Of course so proud of his local of course using his own expressions when he goes and invades people Also, the other thing that I thought was really fucked up I don't have a clip of this because again, I got it. We got a lot to get through Um oan says if you kick us off facebook, we'll come into 3d reality where god isn't charged Which leaves me to believe that he thinks god isn't in charge on facebook. What what what somehow facebook has usurped god What is what which is troubling Man now I really want to find out more about oan shroyer's very clear daddy issues I I would say that there's something going on. Oh, yeah, but let's not drift on the wrong side of the goldwater rule
Starting point is 01:12:24 We don't know him. I do know that he hero worships alex in a very unhealthy way Yeah, and alex likes it man. It's gonna be it's gonna be oan shroyer is cruising for like the worst decade of his life In like two years fucking at least five year info wars hangover. Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna do the the brad pit and Fuck now. I can't remember the name of the movie. It's fight club. No, it's not supposed to talk about it It's the one where he uh, he goes on the ship seven years in to bet. No was the other one He's on a ship. He was smoking uh opium and he grew his hair real long His wife was a native american for a while fight club. Okay, you're right. That was fight club
Starting point is 01:13:04 So we have another clip here from oan and alex just having a bull session This is like they both really need to talk to somebody about their bodies Like and unfortunately, they're doing it on air to each other But it really is something that you should probably talk to a therapist about I think there's some dysmorphia going on here I don't want to judge them for it But I do because it's on air on a show where you're saying that Immigrants are invaders and shit like that. So go fuck off. You don't really get much sympathy for me And look and it's kind of embarrassing, you know like walk around like you're trying to be one of those big guys
Starting point is 01:13:35 But I am a big guy. So I shouldn't be embarrassed of it. I'm just saying I'm not gonna hunt you But they've actually made me come out of my shop. Actually, this is this is an interesting Paths to go down alex because there's this whole trend right now happening about body shaming, right? And so it's like if you're overweight and obese like they want you to show off your body like like I mean women are wearing like yoga pants now that I mean it should almost be illegal But like if you're actually in shape like a fit guy like sometimes alex It's like weird like I feel bad like if I go out in a muscle shirt walking because you're in great shape And there's like a bunch of what do you like three percent body fat?
Starting point is 01:14:10 Probably something like that maybe if you're five already on the day but It's like If you walk around in a muscle shirt and you're a big tough guy or whatever like you're kind of like like oh Yeah, thanks for rubbing it in you know I'm saying but if you're someone overweight That chooses to be overweight and then chooses to you know Scoot around on the store on your scooter instead of walking and stuff like that like oh, it's like going to the antifa meetings These women go I love satan. I kill my babies and I stink Real quick. He's saying antifa meetings, but that's the exact same thing he claimed about when he would protest abortion rallies
Starting point is 01:14:41 He's just reusing material. This is hacky. This is like if This is like if uh, there was a sketch where woody allen war and arnold swartz and eggersuit Like this is exactly the kind of neuroses that would come out. It's weird man. It's super weird Gross and then also the idea that oh and it's like if you're too hot people hate you It's like god just fuck off everyone. We've what are you talking about? We've heard this line before and it's stupid Yeah, it was dumb then it's dumb now. You're not getting any smarter. Why do you find? Why are you coming to this like it's brand new? Well, because that's what all of these people are the Ben Shapiro's of the world the jordan petersons the sam harris is
Starting point is 01:15:21 The staphon molla news all of the intellectual dark web all of their stock and trade is really just Rephrasing conversations. We've already had yeah as a society and we've rejected out of hand. Yeah. Oh, that's stupid Yeah, in the same way that that's that's what owens do in here. It's just what if toxic masculinity Acted like it was smart. What if women really are fucking stupid? Oh, ha ha ha. What if tim allen was right all along? What if there are actual qualitative differences between races hold on now that that's an interesting conversation now. What if You know like really who everyone is is judging is people who are too hot Oh, aren't they the real victims here dan? Aren't they the real victims if we just don't call people fat and say that
Starting point is 01:16:07 They're ugly and stupid and Pretend that there's a morality based to people's physical appearance the next thing you know We're gonna be in Harrison Bergeron and I'm gonna have to wear glasses that make me blind because my vision's too good Oh, no, oh, no Fucking baby. Oh, you know what? I feel so bad that we should outlaw People that I find unattractive wearing tight clothes a fucking baby. What a baby So Owen has one more thing to say here that I think is really funny and actually it changed some of my political beliefs Yeah, not in the way. Owen would hope
Starting point is 01:16:42 You know, uh, Beto O'Rourke a fake name They put Beto in his name to you know make him, you know, uh, voteable They think Hispanics will just oh vote a vote of vote. It's like Sylvia Garcia. Is that your real name? I mean, I don't know these democrats. They always manipulate any way to get votes But Beto O'Rourke plays a concert with Willie Nelson. So Willie Nelson is now promoting Beto O'Rourke to defeat Ted Cruz Which is bad. Ted Cruz is a great voting record Beto O'Rourke is an anti conservative anti trump liberal nut job phony democrat So what am I gonna do? I can't compete with Willie Nelson. Wait a second. Maybe I can you can't no, you can't Uh, so hey, man, excuse me, Owen. I know you got a inflated view of yourself
Starting point is 01:17:21 Still not gonna still not gonna touch Willie Nelson, my friend now I will say that absent any other information saying that is that her real name. I don't know is an expression of racism That is absolutely because you're not okay. You know what? It's very easy to find out if something is someone's real name. You guys look that up. Can you? Yeah, you can How you can't especially public figures and people who are sitting in office name one way but google it So you can do that. I don't care. I'm not even gonna look into that person. Uh, Sylvia Garcia. I don't give a shit I believe that's her name And unless Owen's going to present me with some sort of evidence that it's not
Starting point is 01:17:59 I just see that as an expression of him questioning somebody's a minority bona fide or something Yeah, now Beto O'Rourke is an interesting case because Beto is not his real name His birth name is Robert Francis O'Rourke But he started going by Beto in his primary school days because Beto is a Spanish nickname for Robert He's probably had something to do with the fact that he grew up in El Paso Which i'm not sure if you know this is literally on the border of mexico and 80.7 of the population of El Paso has some Sort of hispanic heritage. He went to Carlos Rivera elementary school in El Paso high school That school by the way El Paso high school is a school that the clan tried to rename Sam Houston high school in 1922
Starting point is 01:18:37 Great. Good work guys. Beto has you guys are doing it Beto is grown up surrounded by an immersed in latinx heritage and the idea that most of his friends growing up were probably hispanic Uh makes it makes a complete sense that he would end up with a Spanish inspired nickname that stuck I think Beto is a fun name. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Yeah, I'm fine with it Also, I was a bit wishy-washy about Beto until Alex and Owen made me look into him a little bit No, he's pretty fucking great. I'm all in. I know he's great though I would support a sack of potatoes on the ballot against Ted Cruz Beto pushed me over the line when I learned that he used to be the bassist in a band called fos
Starting point is 01:19:12 Oh, yeah, which featured sedric bixler's avala from at the drive-in. Oh, he did. Oh, he was What do you mean? You didn't know that that's the only thing to know about Beto. All right. Yeah. Yeah, he's progressive or whatever But he was in a band with the guy from at the drive-in Come on, dude. That's nuts. Yeah And the mars volta this dude fucking beto president for life Actually, no scratch that Uh at the drive-in as a concept president for life. I don't know about that. A lot of that doesn't hold up
Starting point is 01:19:46 Okay, a lot of it does. Anyway, uh A lot of mars volta doesn't a lot of mars volta doesn't little bit indulgent there. Hey, man. Uh The oh shit. What's the name of it? What rats in the cemetery sanitarium? No shit that album combatorium. Yeah, that one's a great album. Yeah, great album It's good later albums Little self-indulgent. I will say from the jump a little self-indulgent a little bit. It worked better earlier, but Great great drumming all still better than really great drummer. Anyway, let's move along Can't get too bogged down in the world of uh of uh old old timey yelling rock. I don't know what to call it
Starting point is 01:20:27 Don't worry about it. Um, hey, by the way, that's not my genre at all But my friends were super into at the drive-in and thank I am glad they were because I enjoyed the hell out of that Hey, man, I love I love a band that could put together three concept albums I'm always going to go with the look whether they're good or not Love Dan the automator. I do love Dan the automator. Nothing Exactly. Um, so Jordan Yes, Dan Have we come to it? We have come to the point where your life became great. No, not my life became great, but we have
Starting point is 01:21:00 Definitely the strongest indication that alex jones's life is not great Which makes me giggle because he's a pile of shit. Yeah, fuck off This starts with what I would describe as an absolute indication that he listens to our show Okay, and then by the end of this clip We see where the future of info wars lies and my friend it ain't a good place From the front lines of the information war it's alex jones Boys tell how about your friend and left his living in cheap hotel The desert's quiet cleveland's cold alex if you want to donate and become a policy walk
Starting point is 01:21:53 There's a there's a link visit alexmyne.com But save a few for lefty two god we could do at this a karaoke. How what about the bridging of worlds? No, no, no, yeah, i'm out He only did what he had to do And now he's grown old Hardly moral haggard died this year last year Last year Don rad Padilla is here. I'm really impressed with how smart he is and i'm doing him here because we're doing a business venture together But he doesn't want to get into that and that's fine. He wants to get into the college conspiracy
Starting point is 01:22:33 This is an example is but i want to get into info wars. Yes. Dot com info wars. Yes info wars. Yes. Dot com Now i'm not going to tell you what this is just yet. All right, but just know It's bad news. Okay. Uh, also I believe that moral haggard died. Does anybody know Who owns info wars? No. Dot com. I think someone did buy it. I think I saw a tweet I I I think maybe his ex-wife bought it. I think kelly might have bought info wars. No Which is that's pretty funny. It's crazy that alex wouldn't buy that That's pretty funny
Starting point is 01:23:05 But to not like I mean he didn't own info wars.com when he started info wars Right, like someone else was sitting on that for a really long time So the idea that he wouldn't cover his bases and get info wars. No is like, yeah, that's that's alex I mean if I if it was me and I was going to come up with a knowledge fight. Yes. Dot com We would also own knowledge fight. No knowledge fight. Maybe knowledge fight possibly Knowledge fight indetermined. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's just good planning So in this next clip alex explains that he's going to invade europe, which is cool By himself and then gets back to this idea. How many horses does he have many?
Starting point is 01:23:41 But then he gets back to this idea of the college conspiracy that conrad pedia wants to talk about also by the way I had a really tough time with figuring out who conrad pedia is because there's also an mma fighter named conrad pedia It's not him. It's not him different cat different cat. Yeah, okay So I just want the listeners to know Obviously, this is something good to get it on the ground level of info wars. Yes. Dot com I just like I told you trump was good and to get into the beginning of it and they're also not Sponsors and supporters. So we like that but I already heard about them for years And then we we're doing a lot of stuff in europe. That's where they're in the top
Starting point is 01:24:17 Recompanies in england and germany in places. So that's perfect for our european invasion. We're about to launch I mean, you'll never know. We launched it I mean the enemy listens to my phones. They know what we're doing But I let's just leave it at that the european invasion will begin get the british invasion Well, you know with the with the beetles and stuff. We'll get ready for the american invasion with the info war And i'm just going to stop right there probably not gonna be just enjoy it Uh, uh, you know listeners real breadcrumbs. You know as one of us goes we all know But uh conrad padilla, thank you for joining us. You got the floor for the rest of the hour get into the college conspiracy
Starting point is 01:24:51 So he's going to invade europe. There's world leaders involved. You're just fucking talking about nigel farage Who gives a fuck? Yeah, and if you want to go with like the beetles analogy now, it's not the right time Uh, the big news about the beetles is that john lennon and paul mccartney jacked off together So I imagine he's just saying that him and nigel farage did a little bit of mutual masturbation You know, that's what i'm guessing I I don't know if you're in the biggest band in the world. Oh, totally right at the time Totally and you've had sex with literally everybody there is to have sex with The only thing left for you is to jerk off next to the guy who's who's also fucked everybody too
Starting point is 01:25:23 I don't I don't find anything wrong with that. I don't even think that's a fun story I don't think that's great all the puns that people are working out like a billion people I really didn't I really didn't know that that was is that real. Oh, yeah, really? That was a story that came out Yeah, oh But that sounds great. Like that's like david bowie and mcjagger. How did you not see the billion people because i'm off I'm off twitter. I'm off facebook. I'm off all of it, man I think billion people tweeted come together. Of course, of course. That's the simplest way to go. Yeah, so that's fun Anyway, he's now i'm so i'm happy for them
Starting point is 01:25:58 Just like i'm happy for david bowie and mcjagger when they fucked good for you guys have a great old time or richard prior and uh Was it who was that? Oh, shit. Now. I can't remember Ernest Hemingway Wasn't Ernest Hemingway. I don't think it was. Why was that your poll? I don't know Because it was uh, uh bogart humphrey bogart. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. No. No, it wasn't it was some actor Wait, why would it? Why would it be humphrey bogart? I just i don't know if humphrey bogart thinking murl haggard now And getting murl haggard out of my head. I somehow jumped to um, uh, who cares? Dan, I hate to break it to you, but humphrey bogart two is dead. It was marlon brando That's who it was that sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. Quincy jones was talking about it
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah, oh, that's right on that on that fantastic interview that quincy jones gave that was such a fucking delight. Yeah Yeah, I don't all these kids don't understand music also, uh Humphrey bogart used to fuck richard prior. I don't know. Whatever. Hey, hey You gotta you gotta much like uh, like rich people infusing Uh young blood as a novelty sometimes, you know, if you're not gay you still gotta You're rich you're famous gonna go give swing a little bit. You get high as fuck one night. You just figure Hey, what do we what are we doing not doing this? You know wrong with experiment? Yeah Anyway, uh the college conspiracy keeps coming up and you might think that that has something to do with student loans being abusive
Starting point is 01:27:23 You might think it has something to do with people not being necessarily prepared for the world outside By the educational system as it is and that second one is kind of close to what uh, padilla wants to talk about But i'll let him lay out his his version of the college. All right, here we go Well, that our whole system alex teaches, uh, why do they all go to school get your higher education? And somehow you're gonna go out there and get this This job that's gonna pay you a whole bunch of money Well, what's happening right now is you got kids right now who have master's degree That are working at starbucks and they're working in Minnesota
Starting point is 01:27:57 And they can't find by the way starbucks has great benefits The the job's a doctor because everybody's doing the same thing now There's a there's an even the huffing post it meant it should be abolished at 90 percent. You never get your money back That's right. Well, the biggest problem we have right now is people don't realize the debt that's being abolished I think college should be the college debt that's happening right now That in most cases doesn't even have to be paid back. Well, somebody's gonna have to pay it back. Why so our system is teaching Yeah, no, it's actually a hard to get a bunch of debt. They made it a lot And by the way, you can't buy a house
Starting point is 01:28:27 You can't declare bankruptcy the way that you can actually work, you know, I know effectively running your life So they're literally putting a ball and chain on them. Yes. It's a dentured servitude, right? Yes And that's I think that's what the whole point is is that our system's not teaching one of the most important things Which is entrepreneurship You know, all right. Now that's not the problem I look at entrepreneurship as you know, people some people have an issue with trump being in the office Well, Trump's an entrepreneur. Cool. No, he's not. He's a He's the fucking beneficiary of nepotism on a grand scale and on top of that fucking white nationalism
Starting point is 01:28:59 He is a product purely of white nationalism This is a man born Raised and supported by a kkk member who was then elected to office Purely based on how racist he was that is Trump is emblematic of white supremacy. Trump is the dumbest Least fucking valuable human being on the goddamn planet Supported by this goddamn bullshit world that we live in that is fucking Unsettling to describe him as an entrepreneur
Starting point is 01:29:36 Jordan Look, I agree. You said you wanted to get out of here before I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's inf, uh, that just listening to that It's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. So the college conspiracy as I hear him laying it out is that They don't teach entrepreneurship, right? Which is you know, I mean, I don't think that that's necessarily the main problem But none dare graduate a conspiracy, right? I would be willing to have that conversation with someone if they were to bring it up You know, like that to me isn't isn't like how dare you or anything like that
Starting point is 01:30:08 I don't I don't find that position to be that wild That's don't they don't they have like the specific degrees Are there specific schools specifically for entrepreneurs? Yeah, sure But also, I mean, I think you could make an argument that you know You got to have a biology credit in most undergraduate degrees You got to have a chemistry credit in most universities and you I know from going to college I didn't need to have a business class or anything like that No, I could see an argument being made that like in terms of preparing people for the life outside of pr, uh, prison
Starting point is 01:30:43 Outside of college floating slip Outside of college it would be beneficial for them to prepare and have some sort of an understanding of economics business that sort of thing I really feel like that's high school. Shit. Like you should sure freshman year. You should have like a then you're passing the Here's how fucking credit cards work But but a lot of times home economics and that sort of stuff or like civics classes in high school Are prerequisites and they are required and they don't do a good job All you're doing is pushing the back the buck back further
Starting point is 01:31:13 Wherever you do it people should be prepared in some way. Yeah now whether you want to make the argument It's in high school or it's in college. I'm listening both sides. I'm fine again with that conversation Now It's unfortunate. Here we go. This is a self-serving argument. Oh surprise Now would he perhaps have some sort of I don't know hold on some some like maybe he's putting together If he thinks that the colleges aren't doing it Are you saying that he might think that there's an opening
Starting point is 01:31:46 For someone to step in and do it to teach entrepreneurship. Yeah, you might be way too lost I'm sorry, is he instead selling a vhs tape where he gives advice you're not far off Of course, so there's a pamphlet you can buy for 25 dollars Conrad Padilla was like a trader Like in stocks and what have you he was unhappy with his life And that is where in this next clip dude, this is a mic down very seriously Because this is where everything is going to change for alex remember he brought up info wars. Yes We're going to find out a little bit about it. We're going to all say info wars. Yes, dude I'm going to say info wars. Oh, no
Starting point is 01:32:31 So what I started realizing was this is not what I want to do for the rest of my life So This profession came around, you know network marketing and melam as you know, sometimes people have a stigma of it with realities Most people don't really actually know that it's been around for over a hundred years And what they and what what a lot of people don't actually realize is that This profession is so proven around the world that's helped millions of people out there Be able to go into entrepreneurship. Well mainstream media demonizes it. There's some good companies some bad But it's a model built around good products. That's why I've been offered hundreds of these deals
Starting point is 01:33:03 I've only done two yeah when it's a great product line It's already been successful and then it just gives people a position to get other folks Under them also outselling It's it's it's and with products like We should get rid of the products because it also funds the show now and it's a win-win I mean these are some of the best products out there Well, they are see the the the reason that I was when I became an independent Distributor for genus
Starting point is 01:33:28 The the the biggest thing that I liked about the company is that the owners of the company Were were successful business people before genus. They already they were really successful people So if you are not putting the pieces together, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait So alex Has become a mid-level multi-level marketing scam guy For genus You bet you so he's not even running his own
Starting point is 01:33:56 mlm anymore He is just an independent contractor for a multi-level marketing scheme and that's what info wars. Yes is It's a funnel to get people to sign up to be distributors for that can't be real That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. It's pretty remarkable. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. I'm genuinely sad Yeah, I mean it's pretty it's pretty wild stuff. I mean at the bottom of info wars. Yes page Like if you go to info wars, yes dot com and you scroll all the way to the bottom There's a disclaimer quote this site is owned and operated by an independent junez contra distributor In other words alex jones is now a junez distributor. That's not all that's going on
Starting point is 01:34:37 He's trying to recruit people to sell junez products. Well, yeah, but that's how the multi-level marketing works exactly What the shit? You know what I I have Twice in my life twice in my life and these are two Generative formative experiences for me. All right. All right first when my when I was like nine my dad bought a timeshare And somehow even then when he was explaining it to me, I was like This is a bad idea. Hey, this is this is not valuable
Starting point is 01:35:09 You're dumb right and then again when I was like 22 my dad started telling me about this. Oh, so there's this thing. Okay. So what you do right is they It's not like they sell anything right is that they give you a membership and it with through this membership You get discounts, you know and if you tell other people about this membership and they get this membership They have to pay a small fee You know, I have to pay a small fee But the more people you tell the better discounts you get and then actually you get like a kickback for every person who signs up Using your information. I can't imagine how your dad ended up in a cult. I know right. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy
Starting point is 01:35:49 It's weird. Yeah, it's weird how he doesn't understand when he's being conned when I was 18 years old I went to a cutco meeting, you know cutco. Oh, I've heard of yeah I remember cutco. So at the time I was working at a movie theater making five five fifteen an hour At this movie theater sweeping up popcorn Working the concession stand and what have you I would later go on to manage that theater As a hero of the formate theater, right who cares selling knives all the way at that point I walked out to my car and someone had put a flyer for cutco in there It was on all the cars and I was like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'll go check out this seminar or whatever
Starting point is 01:36:28 Now at the same time my then roommate was trying to make a reality show about my life because I was completely out of control And we had a handy camp. We had a little digital video camera So we decided wouldn't it be fun if I got really drunk and went to this cutco meeting? Yes, it would be because it's a cattle call It's just tons. Yeah, no anybody. We knew that was going to be the case So I got fucking wasted and then we went he drove we were safe good We brought the video camera Yeah, we get to the door and they're like you cannot videotape of course not So he had to wait in the car and I just just fucking wasted and now like there's not even going to be video of this
Starting point is 01:37:04 Well, what am I? What am I doing? Why did I stay? Yeah? So it's just a sales pitch where they're like cutting pennies and stuff like that. Yeah It's exactly and it's very rah rah and there's always the guy who's like now you might you might say to yourself There's no way. This is too good to be true I'm going to bring up mr. And mrs. Derrickson And they are going to tell you exactly how it changed their life They went from having some sort of regular real estate job where you sell real estate to making $38,000 per month. Does everybody here want to make $38,000 per month?
Starting point is 01:37:38 There wasn't any there wasn't anyone like that, but the guy who was running it that was his story Yeah, it's me myself. Yeah, I don't trust you. Yeah, but then there was obviously one person in the audience who was playing It was just like, oh my god, that's amazing Stuff like that And so I'm drunk and I like I can't make eye contact with the guy or anything. I'm like Like I probably had like 13 beers before I went like that's wasted and this was a day job This was a day game. This was in the evening the meeting. Yeah, but like what five six It might have been closer. Yeah, it might have been around seven eight something like that
Starting point is 01:38:15 That's not terrible 13 beers before eight is fine. I remember it being dark out and I had the day off from the theater And I was I was a champ at the time. Yeah. Yeah, you start drinking at noon. If you're not at 13 beers by eight I'm disappointed in you. I am not buzzed. I am drunk Okay, and I'm like slouching in my chair and like probably I probably burped a bit or whatever Absolutely, and I'm just sitting there thinking like I gotta this is gotta end. I gotta get out of here It went on for like an hour. Yeah, and then after the hour What he did was the guy who was running the seminar who was clearly just like he was the one who put the flyers around He's trying to recruit more people so he can make money off them
Starting point is 01:38:52 So what he does is he bring he brought everyone into his office two at a time And he gave the speech that he obviously gave to every single group of two I was like, I wanted to bring you guys in here because you are uh, you know, I could tell you you have it or whatever Oh my god, you transparent bullshitter I was in there with a girl who was like very chipper and like clearly kind of interested She was a go-getter a little bit. Yeah, and I'm drunk And so he was like he was pointing at her and was like you seem to have the go-getter spirit
Starting point is 01:39:23 I think you have a good future in this and he looked over at me He was like you you make great eye contact I Can't say for sure whether or not I laughed in his face, but I'm like you do how dare first of all I'm drunk second. I have a cross-eye like what are you doing? That's the one thing you thought of Like so he offered us both positions and of course sure it's a thing where it's like, you know You have to pay a bunch of money to get your set of knives that you can then walk around
Starting point is 01:39:54 It's crazy how you have to buy the knives first and then you oh it's that standard setup I went in there and it's like you're a newsie in the 1910s right right So they they tried to get me to you know They would constantly contact me after that and we're like we don't want to set up this thing Get your package together and this is before spam filter in your email or even like calling me You know really yeah, yeah gross and so I was I always ignored them and all that and I had a buddy who It was maybe a year later. I'd moved and I was living with another guy guy I knew from high school who's kind of um He's a little impressionable and all that so he got a cutco meeting and he thought it was no
Starting point is 01:40:32 He thought it was big stuff Oh that poor kid the potential to make so much money was in front of him All it takes is me working hard. It's it's all about you and so I told him I was like man I went to one of those meetings and I told him the story that I just told and like they're con artists This is a scam. Yeah, he's like no, but I know someone who did it and they made a ton of money I'm like but also consider how alienated they are from everybody who used to be their friends Because I knew the guy too. Yeah, you know that like that's the path. You're gonna have to go down You're gonna piss off your family
Starting point is 01:41:02 You might get some pity purchases and then you're gonna get fucked with all of these expensive knives that you have to buy As showcase knives and he wouldn't listen to me. He ended up sinking like a thousand two thousand dollars And just getting screwed by this pyramid scheme. So now this is what alex is doing Whoa, I don't like you saying pyramid scheme damn. Fine. Pyramid scheme has a really negative connotation I prefer multi-level marketing scheme fine So in the end of that last clip pedia, none dare call it a scam None dare call it a pyramid Yeah, so in that last clip at the end there what uh, pedia was saying is that like what made me attracted to this company
Starting point is 01:41:38 Was that the the founders of it came in with such success in business? You know, like they were very successful people now, jordan I'd like to tell you that junez is a multi-level marketing scheme started by wendy lewis and randy ray Previous to starting this health supplement scam company. The two operated another multi-level marketing uh business Called fuel freedom international Where they sold a product called mpg caps, which allegedly helped your oh, you gotta have an mpg cap It would help your car. I've got eight mpg caps. See that's great because it helps your car use gas more efficiently That's what I've always wanted. Ultimately. This was shown to be complete bullshit. What from truth and advertising quote in february
Starting point is 01:42:19 2009 ray as ceo and co-owner of this fuel freedom Signed an assurance of voluntary compliance with florida's office of attorney general and the company paid a hundred thousand dollars And promised uh, or prohibit they were prohibited from making false claims in their business Since they could no longer legally make false claims of fuel fuel freedom They closed down shop and started junez because regulation of the supplement industry is nearly non-existent Yeah, it's almost like you can just start selling bullshit and call it something that's got health benefits because there are billion dollar companies that have lobbied congress to Ensure that they're not covered by the fda. So these people uh, wendy lewis and randy ray who started a multi-level marketing company
Starting point is 01:43:03 That sold a fraudulent product which got them a hundred thousand dollar fine by the attorney general of florida And they had to cease operations because the jig was up They they brought that kind of success into junez when they started it. You know what i'm gonna be honest Uh, that's a brilliant move on their part. I'm gonna give them credit for that If you get caught if you get caught it's like but here's the problem nobody gets scammed quite like a scammer Totally, that's what's happening to alex. That's what's happening right now. He is getting scammed So hard and he doesn't even know it and it's it's beautiful to watch and it's so much worse than you can even imagine Like right now
Starting point is 01:43:41 This show info wars at this point on this episode turns into a junez infomercial. No The point is is that this is a great sponsor for us. It's a great business for you. It's not a sponsor I have my own supplements. I have my own products that are excellent as well And I go out and find out whatever the best is. Well, this is something that comes up to the info wars life Standard real quick all the products in the info wars store are now on harsh discounts And some of that is pretty normal. The easter sale might still be in effect Yeah, they're really easter sale from six years ago. They're they're really Marked down a lot of stuff is and alex earlier in this episode got on air and said that the situation with his
Starting point is 01:44:22 Is what is it the iodine? This x2 the survival shield x2 sure the the crystal iodine the deep earth iodine earth iodine He said that this is he has on the website if you go it says this is the last shipment of this No shit now. I know we've heard him say that before Yeah, that's true based on the fact that he is now bringing in this junez Multilevel marketing scheme and he's saying this is going to fund the operation I think that he's not working with dr. Group anymore I think that probably a lot of the old product you think dr. Group has bailed
Starting point is 01:44:53 Well, I would if I were him his oh, yeah, I know you would absolutely menacing like crazy He's a toxic brand. Yeah, and dr. Group sells detoxes. So he doesn't want to get involved with the toxic brand pass So alex probably minus one well alex has a situation here where dr. Group was very happy to be in this arrangement with him where He would rename products and let alex sell them and take his cut of it Yeah, but now that alex's reach is so gone. He's not able to promote his products on youtube He's not able to promote his products on facebook and twitter and all these other places What good is it for him to private label all this stuff? When was the last time to be able to sell? When was the last time dr. Group was on? I have no idea. I don't think I don't think it's been a while
Starting point is 01:45:34 I think it's been a little while, but I don't know. I I wonder if dr. Group ever comes back Let me say that this is just a theory of mine. I have nothing to back this up But the fact that alex is again doing the this is the last x2 thing Yeah, and he's not doing that in some way like in the past. We've heard him say that to scare people Yeah, he's not saying it like that on this episode. He's saying that this is probably the last run of x2 And you know get it if you want it that sort of thing like we got some in the warehouse We had to move it because we got to get that junez product. Yeah, it's taking up space So I'm I'm and he was already running a multi multi layer
Starting point is 01:46:09 Yeah, infowars life or infowars team or whatever. Yeah, but that was sort of the secondary aspect to his His operation you'd never really sell that all that hard like he would just mention that you could get discounts if you Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he wouldn't he wouldn't sit there and be like now It would be great if you did that he was more interested in getting people on auto ship So they would get to cancel auto ship make that money auto ship is the good stuff That was his scam before now. It's junez, baby. Anyway And is a powerful ally for us You know to be another
Starting point is 01:46:41 Hydra head, you know as they attack us. We're growing another head and it's junez Not the team you want to align yourself red. Padilla, please take over Hydra's really bad when you look at all the products Alex I mean the basically you the the it's called the youth enhancement system and basically what it means is that Every product here has solutions. It's like drinking children's blood if you look at p.m. Right here this product here Okay, 70 70 percent of americans have sleep issues 70 percent. So no, come on People who have sleep issues. I will tell you this is probably my favorite product only because it's hard for me to unwind
Starting point is 01:47:17 I'm one of those people that just goes goes goes And then of course the a.m. What it does is already sell knock out his clarity But one of the products that you had talked about even was which is called mine In fact, a lot of the guys in here are using mind I mean we live in a society right now or who doesn't have a cell phone It's not exposed to technology on a I mean literally all day long I mean You know always last time you were with somebody and they're they're looking at their phone all the time
Starting point is 01:47:40 And we live in a society where attention to death the attention deficit disorder is like all over the place, right? So the mind product what it really does is it really helps with doing this and it helps with me I mean, I don't know about you. I'll expect sometimes what happens to just quit. I mean, I sometimes I forget things Take your money and go my phone all the time Well, they've got studies they give you so many false choices that aren't real choices You can only make so many decisions in a day before you degrade any executive does that And so just like shan parker or facebook said he goes we give you all these fake choices That release all your dopamine that don't matter
Starting point is 01:48:14 We're stealing your time when you should not be making all those decisions this quick So there's too many decisions We're being given and something like this boost the cognitive ability to make more decisions, right? Well, and then if you like it reserve, okay, what a pile of shit. Wow, that's ridiculous. This is heartbreaking. Yeah I mean even really heartbreak. This is depressing. Yeah, you should just just go away. Yeah, this is just let this one go This is the look you lost. This is the sort of thing that will like kill his legacy Yeah, he's gonna fuck over all of his listeners absolutely if they go along with this they are going to blame him for it Yeah, no quit just just right off into the sunset
Starting point is 01:48:52 This is not the action of somebody who intends to be around for very long prudently invest because this will catch up with you Yeah, absolutely. This is the sort of thing where like customers will sign his listeners will sign up And they will end up losing a bunch of money or making none and losing it because they've had to pay into the system Yep, and then they're going to blame alex and they're going to be why did you steer us this direction? You son of a bitch. This is this is a really bad thing But alex, you know, like The one of the big reasons that I think he stopped working with dr. Group or intends to in the future Is that list of products? They're all duplicates of products. Yeah, they're the same shit. It's all the exact same
Starting point is 01:49:31 Solutions that alex already offers with the Global healing center products that he sells. Yeah, so I don't see a reason that he should have duplicate products They're only going to cannibalize each other if you want to sell something that will help with sleep you sell pm or knockout Now a little bit later in this infomercial alex talks about how pm is better than knockout really that leads me to believe For sure. He's jumping ship on his old. Yeah. Yeah, which is probably a smart thing to do because you don't need the r&d You don't need the production capabilities. You can cut costs on that end of it Right, whatever he was chipping in to dr. Group to develop the products and whatever he was paying him for You know branding and licensing and stuff like that. Maybe some of that goes away
Starting point is 01:50:17 I don't know. I don't know what kind of deal he's worked out with junez But it's probably a sweetheart deal But also junez is the only kind of company that will probably get in bed with alex now That speaks volumes about both companies. Yeah So all this is bad. I mean it looks real bad, but alex it's bad on a lot of levels But alex wants you to know that this is not like it's not a multi-level marketing thing. There's great products But unfortunately within a minute the same clip He then explains that it is a multi-level marketing. Okay, he contradicts himself within the course of a minute trying to sell this business
Starting point is 01:50:52 Our listeners need to know you guys are already one of the top companies worldwide You're not doing your big push into the us And I think people need to get fundamentally involved in this you guys are so successful And I was reading in the different perspectives online in wall street That you're doing something because you're not an mlm company. You're a skincare product energy company supplement Lifestyle high energy with medical doctors designing it, but you use mlm as the model So folks get word of mouth the most powerful thing in the universe Especially in the censorship paradigm
Starting point is 01:51:25 And so you guys are set to dominate in the united states. I'm just telling listeners I told you america was about to be great again. I told you trump was about to get novice I mean, that's why they hate us folks We know what's going on and people need to go to info wars. Yes.com to be part of this get great products a great business model You don't have to be a business person You don't have to be a distributor to get the products. You can buy them straight up or get this council get them But you guys have some deals Where where where if people show real interest involvement, you're doing something
Starting point is 01:51:57 No direct marketing company right off into the sunset So we're talking about the products, but also the major money go is really the big product independence freedom everything So he's saying that the big product is the business the business model Now I want to talk to you a little bit about junez and why this is a big trouble So we already talked about how the owners and the founders of junez Also got in trouble for running a fraudulent mlm company before this But also according to truth and advertising quote to date close to 50 complaints have been filed with the florida attorney general's office
Starting point is 01:52:32 And the federal trade commission regarding junez The vast majority of complaints concern problems with obtaining refunds and claims that junez is a pyramid and or panzi scheme junez is or has been involved in at least 16 lawsuits since its inception Including two class action lawsuits that allege the company is operating a pyramid scheme and engaging in racketeering activities This to my assessment is very very clearly set up like a pyramid scheme Quote new junez distributors are required to purchase a mandatory starter kit for 49 95 flag Next they're encouraged in the strongest possible way to jump start their business by purchasing a product package
Starting point is 01:53:09 Which ranges in price from about 200 dollars to 1800 dollars flag Not surprisingly many distributors are encouraged to buy the most expensive 1800 dollar package As one of their very successful operators kim hui Explains it's a no-brainer flag because it temp. Uh, it temporarily catapults newbies four levels up the compensation structure Super flag to the rank of sapphire the most flag if there's ranks if there's ranks based on like gems Then you're fucking flagged unless it's steven universe in addition to this There's a 1995 uh fee that is charged annually to keep you on the roster flag as well as a minimum of 85 dollars a month
Starting point is 01:53:49 You have to buy in product in order to be eligible for commissions or distributor discounts. Oh my god flag That's almost a thousand dollars a year not including the introductory packages that you have to pay for the privilege of annoying your friends And here's the issue as is pretty much always the case with businesses that are set up as multi-level marketing operations Their products are very expensive So buying them yourself doesn't really make sense But it starts to look more appealing when you consider the discount you'd be making if you were a distributor Agreeing to sell the products to your friends and family makes the products that were once too expensive for you come within your price range This is a very intentional strategy because businesses like junez are not looking for customers to buy their products
Starting point is 01:54:28 They're looking for people to become distributors because whether they succeed or fail as distributors junez makes money as that very successful Business owner through junez kim hui says Quote it's not about one person selling all the time because that's linear income, you know trading time for money But this business model Wait, did he even do she he is she I apologize. She even used the word linear So what she is then suggesting that somebody doing something is in a straight line However, if you have somebody at the top
Starting point is 01:55:04 With multiple lines going down That is almost some sort of triangle or or if you were if you were to take it into a three dimensional Form, what would you describe it as dan? I don't know if I could legally But so uh, look, yeah, it's also trading time for money is kind of The basis of labor anyway But this business model is about building distribution and about creating wealth And then the third thing we do is teach people how to teach other people and so that's when true duplication happens
Starting point is 01:55:41 That's the problem with colleges. They don't have entrepreneurship classes damn a quote from her Now another another quote of hers makes things even more clear quote You know we as distributor, uh, you know we as distributors We get product at wholesale and then when people buy it they buy at retail. So we get a So So we get a little retail commission Now that will be the smallest pay you ever get. Okay
Starting point is 01:56:13 Because when somebody else buys it at retail, I forget about retail commissions for me I'm not in this to sell product. I'm here to build a global distribution So It's very clear what the business is about Why are you interviewing somebody who's giving up the game like that because I think I think that was from those quotes I think are from like her giving a junez Uh pep talk election. Yeah, of course. So god. Here's where it gets really dangerous in 2014 19.6 percent of distributors had an income of zero dollars
Starting point is 01:56:48 66 earned under a thousand dollars an average of two hundred thirteen dollars and ninety two cents Only 1.1 of percent of all distributors made more than five thousand dollars on the whole year And when you consider that 85, uh dollar, uh monthly minimum that you have to buy to keep that keep on board Which is almost a thousand dollars a year Even that 66 who earned under a thousand dollars a year are basically breaking even or still losing money And the 19.6 of people who had an income of zero from there are losing several thousand dollars Most likely, you know, it's sad That is maybe the exact income structure of stand-up coming
Starting point is 01:57:29 In 2017 they disclosed their commission information from canada, but other information since 2014 isn't publicly available Which is not a good sign, but this uh from canada in 2017 We find that 83 percent of distributors made under a thousand dollars with 36.45 percent making nothing And again, none of those figures taken to account the money that people are spending to get the product Yeah, of course So also distributors get paid bonuses depending on what they sell their recruits and their first purchase If the new recruit buys the 200 dollar basic package, the distributor gets 25 dollars If they buy the 500 dollar supreme package, they get a hundred dollars
Starting point is 01:58:10 If they buy the 1150 dollar ambassador package, you get 250 dollars If you think about that for a second, you'll realize that you would always want to get your recruits to sign up for the bigger package Makes the most sense and you probably try and sway them to do it even possibly using manipulative Honest practices because you have an agenda. You have a benefit from them buying the package Yeah, that's the highest you could make much more money now Obviously whoever recruited you into becoming a distributor had that exact same agenda Strange and now alex does too Unreal
Starting point is 01:58:50 Unreal, you know, I for the longest time I used to uh, do you think that his fucking listeners are going to have a better chance than these people who Oh, good god, go Absolutely, not nothing Absolutely not just get screwed or I mean the other side of it is you don't become a distributor and then a lot of these fucking products are Over 140 dollars for some sort of like skincare cream or something like that Yep, you could get something as good for almost nothing comparatively just go to fucking wall Walgreens. Yep, something like that. Yep, or even go buy a boutique one for like 40 bucks save a hundred Easy go to town. Yeah, this is ridiculous. It's very disgraceful and I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:59:30 Like I hate alex jones. I've spent two years of my life talking about how he's an asshole. I feel bad I know I feel bad for him now. Like not pity. It's not pity. No, no, no, no It's it's discussed. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely at least In the neighborhood of disgust like I know I've always been disgusted by his racial rhetoric and stuff like that But in terms of the business stuff always we kind of charmed by it Like he seems like a rapscallion in many ways. Yeah with his like like all the ad pivots that we laugh at all the time Like it's it's embarrassing. It's desperate, but there's kind of an art to it The grift the grift is an art the multi is a pyramid scheme. This is a is a is a just
Starting point is 02:00:11 It's just a bummer. It's like it's like debasing oneself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's and it's subservient I'm willing I'm willing to sell out all of my friends and family So that the guy who sold me on this makes more money And then the guy that sold him on that makes more money. Yeah, but at the end of the day I am giving up everything. Yeah, and let's and let's not wait less than I should for alex It's not your friends and family. It's your audience Right. He's not selling this to like right his wife's Tupperware party friends or whatever
Starting point is 02:00:47 Which by the way, we are about to launch our new knowledge fight Tupperware line I was gonna wait till the end of the episode. It's really great What you do is you open up one side of it you burp it and then it I don't know how Tupperware works. Does it work? Well, I don't know. Is Tupperware good? I'm very distracted because one of like half of one of my eyes is going blurry Not sure why that is not sure if I should be afraid of this just just talking about Tupperware I'll do that to a lot of people perhaps So we're gonna we're gonna just we also have a line of makeup You can drive around in a pink corvette
Starting point is 02:01:21 Sell makeup We're gonna dismount on this here in a little bit But before we do we have two more clips that are just a bummer and disheartening But actually the last one is this one isn't this one is alex revealing a little bit too much And I think uh raises a bunch of very serious questions. My neck is actually 22 inches wide Folks have been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to support to support cryptocurrencies And and I and I get they're real and I get that they're just like the you know Our government has a fiat currency
Starting point is 02:01:48 I've never taken any sponsorship from it because I can't figure it out and I can't guarantee there's not a pumping dump Like you see cryptocurrencies down to 80 percent this month So I could have financed everything off of cryptocurrencies and literally defeated sorrows in the globalist, but I couldn't Be sure You were gonna get a good product. These are rated these. I know we're good So bare minimum you become a distributor you get discounts You sign up a few family members it pays for what you get each month Then you sign up 100 members and you you know you make a million dollars a year
Starting point is 02:02:20 The point is is that I feel good at a gut level promoting janez at info wars. Yes.com Damn it. That's sad Oh my god, dan we can never do Present day we can never do present day again. No, he's a multi-level marketing scheme guy now. Yep And it that's crazy. I don't know if I've ever heard of a A pyramid scheme that had like a radio like you've never heard a radio host who's personally selling avon You know, I imagine it might have happened, but yeah, I can't think of I can't think of an example This is bananas. It's pretty wild. This is this is a guy who's literally at the lowest
Starting point is 02:03:00 He could possibly be but your alex in 2009 was not making anywhere near as much no And even that alex would have been like for real Pyramid scheme there's got to be a better way you want me to jump into pyramid scheme I'm selling genes that might be the right size. Right. Right. I'm fine with that I'm fine with that dan if we sold genes that could be the right size Sometimes I think that's better for me than if we were part of a pyramid scheme. I think I would probably veto that I know you would I I'm talking comparatively. This is weird. This is actually now both of my eyes
Starting point is 02:03:36 I'm very concerned about no, you've been dead for six weeks. I might be going blind No, you are pray that I'm not because I don't know how to read braille Well, that would really slow down this podcast because that would really screw up our multi-level marketing scheme Definitely So I think that you're missing one of the big points in that clip and that is that alex has been offered hundreds of millions of dollars to Promote cryptocurrencies, which I don't think is true. I think he's exaggerating but also who's offering you that money alex who Don't worry about who's offering you that money alex
Starting point is 02:04:06 And you're he's even recognizing in there. They're like, ah, a lot of these are pump and dump schemes. Yes. Yes alex Yes, and you know Who's running them based on who is trying to get you to promote them because alex jones promoting It would be the pump part of the dump. Yeah the pump that leads to the dump and the if alex were to promote those He would be the one who would get dumped upon no his listeners would well Yeah, because he would be let in on when to sell Do you think he would I think that's why he's I think that's why he's more susceptible to the Maybe he thinks that they would maybe he thinks that those people would like screw him over in the last minute or no
Starting point is 02:04:45 It's the weirdest part of this of this scam the scam being scammed on the scammer Is that because he doesn't actually understand? Uh a bitcoin cryptocurrency. He wasn't willing to jump in on the ground full of the scam But this scam is supplements. Yeah, he's like this is my scam Right, right. You're just giving me a new way to scam my scam Right, and he doesn't understand that he's the one who's part of the scam now Or he's the one who's being scammed in the scam. Yeah, there's I said scam a lot in a very short period of time It's multi-level scam, you know, there's people are getting different degrees
Starting point is 02:05:20 Yeah, now we the jones folks must be like jerking off over the fact that they they look we're it's got a warehouse Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, exactly. So we have one more clip and in this clip I I agree with you. I don't think we can talk about the present day much anymore I think this is going to be too much of a bummer and alex is just a pathetic shell of a man Yeah, between his going back on like federal troops at the border. Yeah, that's sort of shit the just Flagrant racism that's throughout this episode is brutal then the end reveal of now. We're doing multi-level marketing Please sign up all this stuff. Right. I think this next clip really is the um The evolution of him as a pokemon if you will into uh, his his true form now into a venosaur
Starting point is 02:06:02 Which is like legitimately this clip represents alex jones literally selling his audience to junez And the way you sell this is to other trump supporters people that want the economy to grow People that are on the bandwagon of renaissance. You say hey alex jones is a patriot his info is great. These are high rated Uh Cosmetics and high rated supplements You should get this to support m4s and see how great they are and just buy it once and then they're going to be hooked Because it's so good Now you're making money the show is making money. We're defeating the globalists
Starting point is 02:06:35 They're getting good products and then you go. Oh become a distributor under me Well, think about it. How many of us right now, you know, like there's a new apple phone coming out, right? There's a new apple phone coming out and everything that was a coffee apple to make it'll be $1400 Yeah, okay, so people are going to go out and say hey, look at my new phone How much are you getting paid from apple? You know, we we live in a society where people are calling Tell folks about the new deal So right now what they have going right now is if you become a a preferred customer
Starting point is 02:07:01 You can get up to 25 off the product. This is dumb, right? You get 25 off of the oh my god I'm a perfect customer if you want to get up to 40 off Then you pay a one-time membership fee, which is 49 49 95 or something like that and you get you can You can get all the products for up to 40 off. So and that's like Costco. You save the money one time That's right. That's right. But what's great about this is you pay it cost go you got to pay every year You pay this is one time you pay this one time. So and then you anything with sam's, right? It's it's every year Yeah, it's yeah, you pay it every year. So most people that are out there
Starting point is 02:07:34 They want to you know, they want the most discount, which is 40 off of these products I mean why and again walmart does that because they want your commitment They're going to give you the best deal They want you to like putting a ring on they want the commitment. Well, I want your commitment I wanted to feed sorrows and if you just my god, these are great products are the best out there Keep going. Yeah, so so if you look at the products for example with all of them Every single product on average that you're going to be able to use here Some of them work right away. Like if you look at instantly ages for bags underneath the eyes
Starting point is 02:08:02 Who in the world wants bags under the eyes male or female? I mean this works within a couple of minutes In fact, I in fact we're going to get alex. I think to to uh to do I've just been too busy. No, here's the thing I know all this stuff works. I've tried it. I seem to do it. Oh my god Goodbye, alex Oh my god Goodbye. This is heartbreaking. That's curtains. This is really heartbreaking for me Oh, I mean the way he's selling his audience up the river basically like what you have here
Starting point is 02:08:28 Like I said already in the episode his audience is going to fare exactly as well as the Average junez distributor does and they're going they're going to fare way worse than that I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say as well because it's a terrible average already, right? Let's do you don't have to assume they're going to do worse for it to be bad for them They're going to blame alex and he deserves it because he just sold them to junez Well, what he's going to try and do is get them to blame They're globalists for it. All he did is transmute All of his audience's attention that he has left whatever hasn't been chipped away
Starting point is 02:09:05 He just took that and said junez. Will you buy this? Will you buy the credibility that I have left with my audience? Yeah, in order to get them to try and maybe sign up for your thing through a website that is called info wars Yes, so they'll still you know, they'll still think it has the alex jones credibility that they Believe to it and once you do that I don't know I don't know how you can get it back once it goes bad for so many people because it's going to like I don't know what you can do. I you know what I've I've resisted saying like this is the end for alex so many times But I can see this going down a direction where he can't recover from that
Starting point is 02:09:40 See now, but this is what I think is fascinating about the multi-level marketing scheme being applied to alex is that He's for the first time that I again I don't know a radio hoster like Tucker Carlson isn't fucking part of avon or whatever it is Right, like I've never seen this before wherein the blame can be shifted So easily to the fucking globe to the fucking globalists or whatever. I don't see I don't see that I don't see it. I don't see it being possible either, but his listeners are fucking stupid Generally, but I don't think once once they start losing the scant amounts of money that they all Have that they put into this. I don't see a way that they can't think hey alex
Starting point is 02:10:26 Why did you and then they start researching? They start looking into other reviews of the company if you're if you're If you're a alex jones listener, you're not researching a goddamn thing generally not but if some company You lose a bunch of money and you realize you got caught up in a basically Exploitative business relationship. I think you might look and see if did this happen to a bunch of other people And then when you see that yes, it does and alex has every reason to know The exact same percentages that I read to you that are real that are from disclosures from jones themselves alex has to know that and the fact that he's still Trying to get his customers his listeners who are customers. Yeah
Starting point is 02:11:07 He's still trying to get them on board with it means that he's fine with the idea that 80% of them are gonna get fucked by this Yeah, but but I've never seen a pyramid scheme applied to a cause That's the fascinating thing about this. I think there has been no, I'm sure I'm sure but it's never it's never like If you don't buy these knives, then the globalist win Like I've never heard that sales pitch for a pyramid scheme that sales like this is kind of brilliant in a certain way It's not because that sales pitch is going to work on alex's audience And it's not going to work the next step, which is the audience trying to sell it to other people Oh, no, of course not the audience the audience can't no it's going to be a disaster for them
Starting point is 02:11:49 The audience can't get their friends and family to listen to alex's show and believe that he's right There's no way they're going to be able to use alex's rhetoric to sell them products. They don't need It's going to be a disaster for them. But that's who gives a shit about them. I mean, I I mean obviously Obviously human beings do but alex doesn't eventually there's going to be blowback There's going to eventually be But that's the insulation that alex has that other pyramid schemes don't have is that The blowback has to go towards someone else. It doesn't go back to info wars. It goes back to the globalist It goes back to I think the liberals
Starting point is 02:12:25 The liberals are the reason that you're not selling enough dan I think because of the economic consequences that are going to come to his listeners They are going to treat it differently than the obfuscating that alex can do in general cases I don't think that he's going to be able to weasel out of this, but who knows I don't know the republicans consistently weasel out of a two million two trillion dollar tax cut for the rich I understand that and I don't know my predictions are generally off. So who fucking knows who fucking knows the point is My eye is really starting to freak me out. So we gotta end this. All right. He did because I think i'm going blind All right. Anyway, uh, we have a website. We do have a website that uh, other people can view but dan cannot right now
Starting point is 02:13:07 Well, I can for now, but we'll see when I wake up tomorrow. This is going on when I wake up tomorrow I don't know what i'm gonna. We got it. We got some trouble. Yeah, but probably won't be you probably sleep at all You're gonna be fine, but it's fucking really weird right now You've had a lot of caffeine and you just drank a kickstart and all that shit. I 100 percent believe that's what's But it's still fucking with my head. Yeah, we also have a twitter account. It's at knowledge underscore I go to facebook. Yep. We have a group there called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant That's where you should go. It's really it's really great I I jump in and out of the group every now and again and of my they're like
Starting point is 02:13:43 The most amazing thing to me is whenever somebody just shows up and is like I just found the show and i'm part of the group now Or people are like hey everybody's so nice here. It feels good to be a part of it Exactly and for all of you I just say that if you sign up for the High membership package Then you don't have to pay the normal fees that most people do to get into the group or you can just uh You know subscribe on itunes check us out leave you can do that if you if you sign up 15 other subscribers
Starting point is 02:14:14 Right, uh, then you get a discount on your own podcast. I think my eye is getting better It's starting to wear off Dan we're good as somebody who is oh my god as somebody I've been blind my entire fucking life I've been wearing contacts since I was six years old. I've been goddamn blind I work for you for having for having like a little bit of blurry vision if I take my contacts out I can't walk down the street and you don't know what this was it looked like a dragon in the corner of my eye It was okay. No, that I didn't want to talk about it while it was still that's some eddy page shit right I didn't want to talk about it while it was still there because it's like
Starting point is 02:14:53 Oh that red dragon is coming around but now it's got oh Wait, it's back red dragon No sort of This is really troubling. I shouldn't have brought it up. You just have floaters. Yeah, I know but it's really it's it's more severe than Generally, okay, and it was sort of getting worse. That was really freaking. I'm sorry. We need to talk more about all right Um, but yeah, leave a review on itunes. Check us out on facebook on twitter Do it but alex is there something important we should know about this pyramid scheme loving motherfucker
Starting point is 02:15:24 I almost feel like this is worse But something else that he's done that might not be as bad as selling out his audience is uh alex probably killed a dude Andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first-name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you

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