Knowledge Fight - #206: March 4-5, 2009

Episode Date: September 17, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan about a couple days back in 2009 and all the nonsense Alex Jones had to say back then. The gents discuss the sudden arrival of Alex talking about George Soros, and the suspicious circumstances surrounding that. Also, Alex lies a whole bunch about a bioweapon outbreak, and Dan explains exactly where he's getting his information from. Hint: it's not "the mainstream news."

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm George. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about that boy. Alex Jones. Indeed. We are. I'm going to phrase it from now on. That boy Alex Jones. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. All right. Yeah. I feel like it's a wrap reference, but I'm not sure what to. I don't think it is. I feel like or it's just a general reference entire for any situation where somebody says that boy, that boy, that boy. Anyway, all right. Alex Jones. We talk about Dan. Yep. What was the first time you went swimming? First

time I went swimming. I actually remember this, I believe. I'm not sure it's like a really young boy, but I have a very distinct memory of, uh, so I used to live in Cambridge, Massachusetts back when my dad was at Harvard. Uh-huh. Um, and I know, dropping names. Yeah. Uh, but I was, I moved, we moved from there when I was about, uh, seven or so. So before that we went to a pool. Um, and I remember I was able to, the first time I was able to dunk my head underwater. It was only notable because my parents were proud and we went to the mass house of pizza afterwards as a little bit of an award because I do so well in my swimming program. Oh, you were in a swimming program. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this had to

have been, I thought it was just like a random situation where you got into a pool and you put your head underwater and your parents were like, yeah, we're going to get pizza. Check this shit out. This kid got dunked. Let's go get food. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I think yeah. So it had to be before seven. Uh, I don't know how much before seven though, because most of my life is kind of a blur except for like weird specific memories like that one. Yeah, I know. Yeah. It's very strange, weird. I mostly only remember that, I think because my parents had a mass house of pizza magnet on our fridge for years and years after that. Uh, and that memory was associated by them telling me that story about that from the

magnet. Uh, but otherwise I have, I don't know, that's why I'm almost choked to death at a pool in Missouri once because I ate a hot dog. I swallowed too much of it. I tried to, I tried to get my friend Matt to recognize that I was choking and sort of laughed at me. So I threw myself on a chair. Oh my God. That's a metaphor for your entire god damn life. It really is more than you know, brutal, brutal. Yeah. I nearly drowned. I was in, uh, Champaign, Illinois, and I didn't know how to swim yet. Uh-huh. And I slipped into the deep end and I was, uh, drowning. Uh, and then I grabbed my brother and climbed on top of him, like, uh, Sylvester Stallone in, uh, over the top. And then he drowned. I was, uh, I was

the winner. Oh, congratulations. Thank you very much. And thus we are able to do this. Where in, I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about it. So on our last episode, Jordan, I'd like to thank everybody for like a lot of great feedback that we got from our last episode where we were in 2018 and we learned that Alex Jones is starting, uh, his new career as a mid-level distributor of, uh, a, uh, multi-level marketing scheme called Juness. Great start. Um, so we're going to, you know, I don't know how much I really want to be in the present, uh, to, to look at that, uh, going forward. Yeah. That's, that's harsh. But I think that today we have just as an important of an episode, uh, from 2009, we are back in the past,

very excited about what we're going to be going over today. But before we get to that, we have to acknowledge that this is like the third time on that episode that I have tried to figure out what the name of legends of the fall was. Is that right? I think it was, I swear to God, we've tried that before and it did not go well. I kind of feel like that's just our rhythm and it feels very familiar where I don't want to talk about whatever movie you're trying to bring up. So I intentionally say the wrong movie and, uh, in this case fight club, but it is possible that you've been trying to pull the name, uh, legend legend for years. It's possible that is a theme in our show. Yeah. Um, but before we talk about legends of the fall, we got to give a shout out

to a couple of new donors. I'm very excited. I think people are responding quite well to the idea of us having goals. Um, and I want to thank everybody who has joined up and say, uh, Hey, now almost 85% of the way to having to do another documentary. Oh no. So no, quit donating, quit donating. He's the one who lives off of it. I don't need this. It may come sooner than we expect. So there's that. Uh, please give us your suggestions of what documentary you'd like us to do. I'd rather not do the Obama deception, but any of the police state documentaries are up for grabs. Uh, any of that stuff. So, um, we'll get to nine hour a day is going to be a rough one. Yeah, it may be nine hour. Uh, but, uh, what is not rough is, uh, my feelings about our new

sponsors, donors, like give a shout out. Thanks to, uh, someone who's just joined up with the team. We thank you so much, Paul. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Paul. Thank you very much, Paul. Also, like, give a shout out to someone who's been around and, uh, been a big, big booster of the show for quite a while. Very thrilled to have them on board. Thank you so much, Lucy. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Thank you very much, Lucy. Uh, we appreciate it. Oh, so very much. And I would like to give a thank you to, uh, everyone who has sent me gifts on Pokemon go. Thank you very much. We are now all good friends. And, uh, I've seen proof that you have a Charizard. I do. Very exciting. I do. It's a fantastic life.

Um, and then finally, I would like to give a shout out and thank you to someone who took their donation, bumped it up a little bit and, uh, is thus a globalist. Thank you so much, Drew. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Thank you, Drew. Thank you very much, Drew. Yeah. So, Jordan, we're back in 2009, like I said. And, uh, today, uh, hey, look, yeah, I want to be perfectly clear. Sure. Our last, uh, 2009 investigation episode, I said that, uh, hey, I got sick and tired of listening to March 4th, uh, 2009 cut off halfway through. And boy, that was a big mistake. That was a big mistake.

I will be the first to admit that, uh, that is a classic knowledge fight. Fuck up. Oh, okay. Perhaps the only time I've ever done that in the history of our show been like, look, I just listened. I listened to the beginning. We'll get back to it. That was that. That's weird that the first time I did that, had I have not gone back and listened to the rest of the episode, we would have missed something massive. That's, yeah. The last time, or the few times you've done it before now, you've just been like, fuck this and we've never gone back. No, but I've still listened to it. Oh, okay. I've still listened to the end of those episodes and like, I was right to just chop it off there. Who gives a shit? This is the first time you've

been wrong. Well, no, yeah. Clock right once every twice a day. We can say that I was wrong, but I am going, I'm here to make amends and make things right by actually getting back to the, the March 4th and getting into what happened at the end of the show, because it's super important to our investigation. Then the rest of the episode will be about March 5th, 2009, where Alex does something wild that I think is going to be a lot of fun for everybody. Oh, yeah. Except for his listeners. Not so fun for them. Not so fun for, super fun for Nick Cannon, though. Yes, absolutely. Okay. So here we're going to start with the March 4th. Alex at the beginning of this episode had referenced that he had a clip of George Soros admitting that he had

crashed the price of oil intentionally. Right. And at that point, I was like, fuck this. I looked into George Soros's comments about oil around this time. When we discussed that, how he's talking about the bubble that was created was largely due to over speculation about the price of oil, and was advising people to work towards that bubble, not bursting. Nothing to do with like intentionally crashing the price of oil or anything like that. So I assumed that that was just going to be him saying, I have this clip. I didn't realize at the end of the episode, he would actually play the clip. Oh, what? Now, he doesn't do that. Does any time he plays the clip, it proves him wrong. And wouldn't you know that this is the exact same thing? Okay. So here

is Alex playing the clip that he purports to say is George Soros admitting that he crashed the price of oil. See if you can get that from this clip. More importantly, see if you can figure out what actually is making Alex mad. Okay. Here's George Soros admitting that oh, it's okay that oil's plunging. This is being used basically as a weapon to bring down the Arab states and other nations. Here it is. At bank efforts going on in the United States, but there's so much else to be discussed here because this is after all the world economic form. Let's talk for a moment about the price of oil. What are the implications of $40 oil in your mind? Well, it's a sudden reversal of fortunes for the oil producing countries. So and in the Gulf states, you have quite a few

bubbles popping in Dubai was one of probably the biggest real estate bubble in the world. And it's now bursting. However, it's not all bad news because the major oil producing countries have been the enemies of the prevailing world order, Venezuela, Iran, Russia. And it's not so easy to finance a Bolivarian revolution with $40 oil. So I think Venezuela is Chavez. Probably his days are numbered. And in Iran, I think that he's not going to last a year. Maybe wrong, but I mean he's under a considerable duress and his influence is going to decline. In Iran, Ahmadinejad is up for elections in 09. And unless he can provoke some incident or I think that he's liable to also be defeated and you may have a more reasonable regime.

Now, Russia is more troubling because there, you see, the Putin has been using oil for a number of reasons to reestablish Russia's geopolitical influence to enrich the rulers, to maintain themselves in power and to bribe the rulers of the neighboring countries to gain control over their gas. But through the success, he was very popular. And now suddenly you have had a financial collapse, inflation, ruble falling, living standards falling. And there's a danger that he will be more adventurous trying to have some foreign adventure, Ukraine, whatever, to divert attention. I'm afraid we have to end it there. George Soros would like to thank you very much. We didn't get to China, but we heard lots about Russia. That is George Soros, live from Davos, the World

Economic Forum. So that's the clip that Alex plays. And to mine ears, that's mostly analysis. You could characterize that as an economic geopolitical analysis based on what the price of oil is, the way that Putin was able to game the system, the way that places that are outside of the sphere of sort of what George Soros would call the world order, which scares Alex. It also gives an editorial bent towards the analysis as well, saying that because oil has whatever it was, it has been regulated, or it's like come back to even normalize. That's the word I was looking for. The countries who were relying on the oil speculation driving up the cost of oil, filling their coffers, had more money to invade and cause havoc. Or to bribe leaders as

he's pointing out as it relates to Russia and Putin, which makes it look to the people like they're doing a good job, which is also something that we've already seen in our 2009 analysis. We were talking about when Russia shot off the gas that was going through Ukraine, and Alex said that that was Ukraine's fault. His analysis is, I don't particularly care to get into whether he's right or wrong or anything like that. That's secondary to any of my interests in this. I think it was two for three. Chavez did go down. Ahmadinejad didn't just yet. A little bit later. Yeah. Not too much longer, but not soon enough. In the time frame that he's predicting. And then Russia totally did some exploratory adventures.

Some adventures in Ukraine, so to speak. So nowhere in that clip is he even indicating in any way that like I crashed the price of oil and he's saying that there are benefits to it that come from these regimes not being able to use the price of oil to their advantage, certainly. But that does not imply in any way that like I did that shit. We did that. Oh, what up? We did it. And also let's remember along with Putin, Venezuela, Iran, Alex's dad lost a lot of money. So you might have something personal going on there as well. I don't know if that's necessarily the piece of it, but it's interesting because he plays that clip and then he comes back to it a little bit later. And let's see what his analysis focuses on. Does it focus on Iran? Does it focus

on Venezuela? Boy, I'm going to go with no. Now remember, Lindsay Williams, months before they snuck attack Russia control territory in Georgia held for since the early nineties, historically part of Russia. He said they're also going to start stuff with Russia. No one was even talking about that. That just came out of the clear blue one morning, but it's right. Oh, it's so good. I played that Lindsay Williams because I wanted to, you know, have you be able to comment before we get into the latest developments on why do you think the elite are now basically admitting everything that you were saying, but you said it before it was even announced or it even happened. Well, Alex, you have to understand, I'm just an ordinary everyday guy. I put on my

purchase just like every other man every morning. I had the privilege of living with the elite of the world for three years. As a result, I've kept in touch with some of them, and they have kept in touch with me sometimes over these past 35 years. They knew in advance, Alex, folks, I plead with you, everybody out in this audience today, I beg of you, please listen and believe every word Alex Jones is saying. He has tried to tell you for years. All right. So this is Lindsay Williams, the guy who is a absolute shill and a liar trying to pitch his DVDs that he sells presenting this idea that he, because he was a chaplain at an oil derrick or something like that. He has inside information. We went over him a couple episodes. Yeah. Yeah.

He is a scam artist that even the info wars community on their message boards like stop having him on. Yeah. Because also in that clip, clearly he has no idea what anybody was talking about and he was just kind of rambling on just like, well, you know, I was around those people and all I can tell you is to listen to what Alex says and believe every word of it because I don't know anything about it. But also that's the that's what we see over and over again with the guests that have staying power. Right. They butter Alex up and really flatter him. So he knows that part of the game and God bless him for it. But really, I don't know. I mean, it's strategically a good move for someone as a guest on his show. Right. No, I'm for that. So Alex's main analysis seems

to be about Russia. It seems to be about how the 8808, the South Ossetian and Abkhazian separatists that attacked Georgia. He's using that as like, hey, that was a sneak attack against Russian held territories. He was ethnic cleansing against native Georgians used to be part of the Soviet Union. Right. Right. So technically it's always will be technically it still is. Right. You know, much like Texas is a part of Mexico. Right. Absolutely. So look, remember the Alamo, his analysis of this and clearly what has set him off about Soros comments because it's not that he's saying that he did this. He crashed the price of oil because that's nowhere in the clip. He's getting defensive about the idea that Soros is against Russia.

Holy shit. Isn't this exactly what we predicted? I don't know. I still don't know if this is enough in terms of like, I'm not satisfied with the investigation of when does he start talking about Soros and shit like that. Just to make a clear cut case that this is it. Right. I still need to listen to a bit more to figure out like the ins and outs of it because he's still not saying George Soros is a demon who runs everything. Right. But this does have the germination of a thought. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. This is pretty big. And the fact that it's connected to Russia very clearly means. And the fact that we know Russia is communicated with Alex Jones not to the level that they would later. Well, we don't know that. We don't know the date. Oh, that's true.

He has been an RT at this point in time. Right. Absolutely. So at the very least we know that somebody is able to contact him. Yes. And perhaps if he were to out of the blue start criticizing George Soros, it's possible somebody may have listened to the show and been like, hey, we like it when you criticize George Soros. That was good stuff. Perhaps you should continue doing so. I mean, that's too speculative on our part, but it is possible. It's plausible, I would argue. Sure. Sure. It has a certain narrative reality to it. Yeah. But we can't say for sure, although it is just fascinating that this is sort of where things. I mean, at least a prologue to him being anti George Soros as a demon and stuff like that.

So we move on now to the fifth. I think it's really important that I need to really just put a button on this. Soros didn't say in any way that they had anything to do with crashing the price of oil. Alex is absolutely saying that that clip proves that. Yeah, if it was on doesn't say that at all, if it was on the fucking mad money, it would be the same analysis, but he would hit something with a bat. It'd be the same shit. And also that was very obvious stuff. Yeah. Like, oh, this country that was previously flush with cash is now in a depression. Yeah. So the leaders who presumably are no longer popular might be kicked out. They're going to have a much more difficult time getting away with the things that they have been getting away with now. They

don't have those oil revenues that came from a hyperinflated price point on oil. Yeah, that's good analysis, but it's not exactly like mind blowing analysis. Also, the secondary aspect of it is the price of oil coming down means it's cheaper for people to buy gas for their cars. Why is Alex so invested in the price of oil being super high and therefore more expensive for Dan Johnny lunch pail Dan Dan. I know he cares about the little man. I know he cares about the middle class. We've got the strongest middle class in the in the place. It's very weird. So we move on to the fifth and man, oh man, Alex is coming in hot, hot on the fifth. Okay. I thought when I listened to the rest of the fourth, I was like, Oh, shit, this is going to be the point

where Alex brings in the already existing 10th Amendment narrative that he's been spreading for the last month. Yeah. Of his of his show. He's going to now have this Soros crashed the gas. It's going to sort of mutate into something. It's going to combine the tea party is going on already. There's, you know, there's a lot of weirdos who are starting to come on Fox News. Glenn Beck is becoming a little bit more ascendant. Yeah, within that right wing community. I thought like, Oh, you think he's going to zig in and said he's odd. I thought I saw like, okay, this is going to start. And so when he says this fool again, dad, maybe not when he says this at the beginning of the show, I think that's where it's going. Usually every five, six months or so,

I will say, prepare yourselves for this information. Fill your hand. It is that important. I don't want this information I'm covering to be lost in the overall chatter of my coverage of the Panoptagon or the Pantheon or the Panacea. Nope. None of us. Corcopia of things happening in the world. It's still, still somehow incorrect on all the stars. Normally it is every six months to a year that I come across something this big, this important, this insane, this out of control, but celebrating like birth pains, getting closer and closer together. The last time we did this was January 27th of this year. 1984. Well, just a month and eight, nine days ago. That was when he had the proof that FEMA camps are being created and they're

trying to shove you in them. Stop traffic. So that was the last time that he got all crazy. Now, the reason that I kept that clip in as long as I did was because he's talking about the birth pains and things are accelerating and stuff like that. Right. That's exactly what you're thinking tea party, but that's the same language that he uses later with Trump. Like about the idea that time is accelerating, things are coming closer together. There's birth pains of this, this new Patriot salvation rise from the ashes of the old Republic. Exactly. So when he uses that language, I'm like, maybe that's compartmentalized and part of his brain that is only for Patriot resurgence is starting to like, maybe, maybe this is it. Maybe white supremacist

resurgence is hold on. I was like, this is the tea party. It's gotta be right. It's gotta be. No, so definitely not. At this point, he, he, he, he moves along and he cucks out his own FEMA camp story in favor of promoting this story that he has for today. Now that said, this story that I said was a red alert a month ago, the FEMA camps is nothing. This story is nothing. Agree. Nothing. Nothing. Agree. I'm gonna say that again. Nothing compared. I'm gonna say it again. Going to come. It's like a truck. This is nothing. When I saw this story last night and then spent hours researching it and confirmed it was accurate, I had trouble sleeping. I basically became upset at my stomach. So first of all, I love that.

I became upset at my stomach. I love that phrase. That is so weird. I am so mad at my stomach. I do not have an upset stomach. Instead, I am upset with the failures of my body. My stomach is out a lot. Oh, that bastard. So much acid was produced. He does anthropomorphize everything. I'm somebody you can have, you know, maybe because I'm stupid. It's not as I'm tough. You're not gonna have some MP threatening me, putting a 45 to my chest and I don't get upset. It's almost like I'm numb to things like that. But, but I eat that spicy chicken. My hands I started sweating last night. My, my palms were sweating. I had sweat in my,

my house was cold. The air conditioner on started. And I was sweating over this. It sounds like you had a cold, man. I mean, the flu. It sounds like you got a bug or food poisoning. Any of those. Cause it's all of those things are symptoms of like a slight bug. Yeah. I was sweating when it was cold inside. I was upset at my stomach. I couldn't sleep. All of that is just like, yeah, you ate some bad chicken. Yeah. How about a night quill? Have you tried night quill? Sure. Or is this a quill? Was that out yet? That one that just helps you sleep? I don't know. That night quill. That night quill that you're supposed to chug to go to bed. I think maybe I misinterpreted it.

I call that whiskey, my friend. Indeed. Indeed. So, at this point, all we know is this is big news. It's huge news. And Alex was it is but the FEMA camp where you're going to be forever, forever when the government comes down to kill your family. They're going to kill your family and put you in the FEMA camp. That story, nothing, nothing. Right. I'm going to say it again. Dumps like a truck. Nothing dies like what, what, what? So what could be more important than you spending the rest of your life in a camp? Well, I'll say the first thing is based on his tone and the fact that he said he couldn't sleep last night. I think he needs a nap. But then, secondarily, he kind of teases what this is

about as he goes out to break. Okay. I'll give you a hint what it is. You know, from all the little pieces of info I've got and knowing the enemy operation. Someone, somewhere. I was able to peg 911. Even the target months before. All right. All right. Well, I'm a child. I'm telling you, it's going to be bio attack. Oh, it's going to be bio attack. Bio attack. Okay. So I mean, was this right around when bio shock two came out? It might have been. Yeah. But you know, in terms of him pegging 911, like, like it was a Reagan, he gets so much mileage out of like the fact that he said that, you know, they're going to attack the Twin Towers. It's going to be Aladdin. But all those pieces were like, he wasn't nearly the only person who said that.

No, I believe that was a very popular prediction. I believe the biggest person who said that was Osama bin Laden. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He did remember when he said that bunch of times. Yeah. It was kind of a thing for him. Yeah. So, but I mean, it's one of those things like I can't take away from Alex that he did say that in advance, but I can take away that it means anything that he said that in advance, right? Or that he has some kind of secret information. So I don't, I don't give him a lot of credit for that. And I'm going to give him a lot less credit as we get into this bio attack thing. So the bio attack is the big news. Bio attack, bio attack. What kind? I don't like disease. Boy, I'm not going to get into it just yet. Because I Alex takes for

fucking ever to get to the story. And I want to recreate that experience for our listeners. You son of a bitch. I want them to I want to torture them the way I was tortured. Not, not so much that I want them to feel the frustration with Alex that like if you're listening to his show, we're already, you know, a couple of commercial breaks in and all he said is this is big news FEMA camps. They got shit on this. And then as he's going out to break, it's bio attack. But you think that when he comes back from break, he'll be like, all right, here's exactly what I'm talking about. Right. Sorry, I scared you by going out to break things. But instead he doesn't because you know what we love to do on our show is make our listeners frustrated. That's

but they know that we will get to it eventually. Whereas you don't know if Alex is that's a good point. That's true. You're a fucking boat in open water. Yeah, he might just say it's a bio attack and then never speak about it again. Right. Like he kind of does listen to this shit. But I'll tell you right now that the news I've got in front of me, I should probably tell you all the guests today and not even get into the economy, cancel the guests in him because he doesn't respect him for this magnitude. He'll respect this news to just mention it and then move on. You know, when we do that, when we focus on something like this, but then just move on, we become acclimated to accept it.

They're acclimating us right now with over 100 mainstream news articles a day. You can go to Google News and type New World Order and there'll be over 100 today stretch stretch. We don't have the power point of thousands now the last few months. World government's good. We'll say you know we're going to America or the American Union is the answer. Wall Street Journal Newsweek Time Magazine, Alex, New York Times, everything. They are in a full court press. You want the economy to get better? A world government run by the bankers. Just the asinine over the topness of it all. And we're all becoming conditioned. You know, now I see 100 articles plus a day. Rothschilds and Rockefeller saying the world government is now here. We're going to carbon

tax everything you do. And I'm so conditioned to it now. So long. It's so long that now that we're been completed. I've been proven completely right. And it's all right out in the open. What about groceries? I'm just sitting here. We're all just sitting here going, okay, there it is. And meanwhile our detractors on radio and TV and on the websites and on the blogs and podcasts. Yep. They just keep calling us tinfoil hat heads and saying there's no global bank. There's no new world order. None of this is happening. Everything's fine. So a lot of them are paid bloggers that's been admitted, but many more aren't. It's just a mentally ill, very, very sick society. Large sectors of our economy and society and socioeconomic development, everything,

spiritually, are just really sick evil people. So the majority aren't, but the majority that is half decent people aren't engaged, aren't informed, aren't involved. What are you talking about? When they tell a story of this magnitude, people don't respect it. And it only takes him 45 minutes to get that very short point out. I'm so great and people lie about me and blogs. Most of them are paid, but most people are good. Some people aren't good. Most people are spiritually unengaged. What the fuck? You said you're going to cancel guests. He said he's going to cancel guests because he's got to get to this news that he does. It does disrespect to the news. Yeah, but you have to preemptively defend against your news dance.

Take that two minutes and plus this goes on quite a while. Oh, I assumed so. Take that time. Give it to a fucking guest. Preferably one who knows about bio attacks. Or do what you said you're going to do and get to the fucking news already. You could because this is getting painful. Dude, four hours of show. Come on. So now in this next clip, there's a lot in four hours. It's a little bit threatening here. Most of you listening right now to this show, if we don't turn this around, are dead. You understand? I'm dead. You're dead. Our children are probably going to die or not have parents. What else? And when it comes and when it happens,

many of you that were laughing and giggling, you're finally going to freak out. That's me. You're going to run off and beg for the vaccine or whatever they've got for you. And the first bio weapon they release, and this is the big news story. What about foxes? The first bio weapon they release in the next phase will be isolated. You know, it'll kill a hundred thousand or so. And then they'll teach you how to go under bio, has in control of how to lock down cities and that they're the boss and they know best. We've all got a thumb scanner to buy and sell to stop it from happening. And then the next one, as they beta test it,

will kill a couple million. And then it'll lock things down even more. And then the next one will kill two billion people. Then they'll totally lock down society level. Unimaginable. You won't care. Every day was being drug off and arrested. All you care about is that, you know, you get these proper vaccines to protect you from the progeny and Zyclon 12. What you say Zyclon? What progeny and mean? Why'd you say Zyclon? And then of course they'll finally kill you too. That's their stated plan. And I thought they already killed your family. When I saw the reports I'm about to cover when we come back from break. Okay. And I read them. It was stunning.

The room almost wheeled around me. Again, I think you got the flu. I think you got a bug, Alex. He's got a slight vertigo. Oh, man, another symptom. This is like when he said he had a six hour dream that lasted forever and he could see the fucking future and everything. And he's like, Oh man, I had this bug, but I'll tell you what, this bug, this bug was information, Dan. I happened to be I had the flu formation. Right. So still no real details about what this story is, but thankfully he's promised he's going to read it on the other side of this commercial break. Of course he is. So he goes to break and he comes back. Oh no, no, I'm sorry. He's still rambling a bit before he

goes to commercial. And this is where he gets caught by a hard out from the commercial. It does not get this. This is frustrating for the balance of this hour. I am going to break down the most important story I have ever covered on this radio show. It is more important than when I went on air and said they're going to blow up the world trade centers and probably blame it on their asset bin Laden. They're going to do it the next two months, call the White House, tell them don't do it. You lied 25th and did it for two months straight till the enemy carried out the operation. This dwarfs that. You see, 9-Eleven was only carried out to set the stage for the police state to suppress the general

population as they financially bankrupt you in preparation to use the bio weapons. Got to go break. So this is the most important story of his career. So this is what? This is 10, 9-Elevens? Probably. Yeah. This is 9,110. In a global 9-Eleven too, like it's a global bioweapon attack that's going to kill billions. But the first one is only going to kill a few thousand, right? Right. So we don't need to worry about the first one. Spoiler alert, this one killed zero. What he's going to talk about. But bird flu. Bingo. Wait, for real? He's talking about bird flu? You betcha. Bird flu. Well, so here's what happened. This is one to one. What happened? He got a flu and you decided that flu was a bio weapon. Well, it's or he was inspired

by having the flu to be like, well, obviously that's how they're going to kill everybody. I had the flu. I could have died last night. There is a decent chance that there's something to that. I don't have medical records on Alex, so we can't prove it. Although his description of his symptoms do lead one to suggest that possibly he's suffering from a bug of some sort. Yeah. But the issue is that there was also a new story that had come out a little bit before this that sort of feeds into Alex's flu fears. And he's going to make a disgraceful propaganda effort out of it. I will be able to, over the course of this, trace where he's getting all this information from. It's not the places he says it's coming from. And this is this is so bad. This

is like this is Alex at his worst. Okay. This we've already seen him build this up. This is the most important story I have ever come on air and told you about. Right. And when we get to the right behind swine flu, that's that's slightly larger. When we get to the bottom of this, it will be a terrible embarrassment. But it's important that he comes back from break and he finally gets to the story. And it's interesting where he's reading it from. Okay, what I'm going to do is I'm just going to read this news article. Then I'm going to come back and go through all the points and why this is so serious. And connect it to other background information to make it crystal clear. This is by Paul Watson. He wrote it this morning. Did a great job. I contacted him and Kurt last

night and they got all this posted this morning. Accidental contamination of vaccines with live avian flu virus virtually impossible. That's what government officials and top vaccine scientists are saying. So who you don't believe in? Well, certainly there's that issue. But put that aside for a second. Okay, because the big news he's reading news. He's reading this article, this news article that was written by Paul Joseph Watson, right on prison planet. And Alex told him to write it. So the nature of like this big story, you're reporting on your own shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, this is not good. That's that's bad. Number one, right now. Well, he also had diarrhea that night. Now we will get to what Paul Joseph Watson is reporting on in a little

bit. But suffice it to say, it's not the news. Anyway, as we get through this, we will see little claims that Alex makes. And they're really, really troubling. I think one of the things that disappoints me so much is every time he introduces a story with Paul Joseph Watson wrote an article about it. Yeah, fucking Christ. Why are we doing this? Yeah, yeah. I don't even want to tertiary here. Paul Joseph Watson, right. So I guess I guess what I should do up top is kind of give you the reality of the story that he's he's telling. Yeah. So there was an issue of what I would describe as gross mismanagement at a Czech plant, where a company called Baxter Pharmaceuticals, Baxter International, right, they farmed out some of their work in terms of flu vaccines to

this Czech plant and a bunch of chick pigeons. No pigeons showed up. They knocked all the vials of flu on the floor, got the flu. And that's where bird flu came from. No, no, okay. This Czech company called Biotest was also involved in H5N1 avian flu research. And it appears that they were responsible for a mix up that happened at this Czech lab, not Baxter International. Well, our company sent a clean flu virus to the Czech company Biotest for research and it was replaced by a bird flu virus, a replacement of the test material, says Baxter's Richard Tishler. But the problem is slightly more complicated, even than that. The origination of the contamination wasn't even necessarily Biotest's fault. As it turns out, it all traces back to an Austrian

company called AVIR Green Hills, who had hired out a Biotest lab, quote, the contamination has only occurred during the process for which this particular research project for AVIR Green Hills in Baxter's laboratory. And this specific process will not be repeated. Oh, so they rented it out for like a staff birthday party? Sure. I mean, if you want to go if you want to go that far with it. Yeah, whatever. This is kind of complicated. So I'm a little up in my head about laying out the exact details. I get it. But suffice it to say, there was this AVIR Green Hills that was running a test that involved avian bird flu at this facility that was overseen by Biotest. Biotest was also doing some work for Baxter International. Baxter International had sent flu vaccine

to this Biotest lab, where AVIR Green Hills was also doing research on the bird flu stuff. Yeah. They had some sort of a mishandling mix up of some sort. It's unclear exactly what happened. The working theory, as I understand it, is that there were some samples of the avian flu, H5N1, that were unlabeled and ended up commingling with the other stuff that was the clean sample that had come. This is like the plot of every 50s movie where something turns giant. Yeah, yeah. It's the plot of every 50s movie where it's like the giant woman. They went to one lab and then she exploded. It has great potential to have gone way worse than it did. Yeah. But fortunately, there are some protocols in place that end up catching things like this, which it did. The

samples that ended up being tainted, they were, so what they do is they test them on ferrets, which is, you know, it makes us feel very uncomfortable, obviously. Yeah. Because it's like, oh man, poor ferrets. But they test it on the ferrets and they're supposed to not have terrible reaction to it. And that's how they know that it's not tainted virus. So if they have a terrible reaction to it, then we can use that as control and it's like, holy shit, something's fucked up. And so that's what happened. They tested it on the ferrets. The ferrets showed a negative reaction and they ended up having to kill the ferrets because they tested the blood of ferrets and found out, oh shit, there's bird flu here. Yeah. And so the samples had already been

shipped out to a couple of locations from this Czech lab. And so they ended up finding it in these places. No one ended up getting sick from it. The employees of the labs got Tampa flu, whatever inoculation they needed, they were quarantined, everything was fine. So it all got resolved. So this was less destructive than when like, a grocery store has to recall lettuce? Yes. Yes. But it has such scary potential. Yeah. Because the idea that the avian flu, which is not really all that harmful to people, largely because from what I understand, the nose, the nose of the human is too cold for it to incubate. And generally speaking, it dies before it ever makes its way into your system. That's interesting. That's from an article I read in

some scientific journal, I don't know entirely, but humans for the most part are not susceptible to avian flu. And it's not airborne. So the idea that it could commingle and mutate with the normal flu, which is airborne, is a really scary possibility because the avian flu is much more dangerous for people at a much higher mortality rate. Were it to mingle with a regular flu virus that can survive in your nose? But it would need to incubate within a person in order for that to happen. Right. So it's the plot of outbreak. Right. But the idea is there, and Alex is able to trade on the fears that that idea causes, but he is not dealing with the reality of the situation that actually happened. I've done way more research into this than I need to, and it's very complicated.

And I pray to God I'm able to explain all of this. Good luck. Because it will firmly demonstrate what a propagandist and liar Alex. And I'll be interrupting you with jokes the whole time. Fair enough. So here's Alex getting into it. He's not, he's not going to get into the actual story just yet, but he's going to, I don't know, try and make you scared. Now this is a strain of bird flu that kills 60 to 90% of humans it comes in contact with. Not true. That is not true. Because where would you get that? Well, because it can kill 60% of the people that get it. But you can come in contact with it and not get it quite easily. He's trying to mix the idea of being exposed to it and having it invade your system or whatever.

You know what I mean? I don't trust you because I think you might have bird flu. I don't. But I do know someone who did. You're doing bird flu propaganda in order to keep me here. I do know someone who had bird flu. Oh, do you? Yep. They survived. But you know, it is very dangerous if you get it, but you can come in contact with it and not get it. Alex is trying to muddy the waters of just how dangerous bird flu is, which seems not great. So now here's his next lie. They gave it to ferrets and it killed all of them that are in the hammer. That is not true. They killed the ferrets. Yeah, they ended up killing the ferrets when they found that they had been exposed to avian flu. The flu itself did not kill them. Would it have killed them?

It's yeah, a lot of them, it would have probably. So, so because we saw that they had the symptoms, we know that they got the bird flu. And because the bird flu has a 60 to 90% death rate on the on the things that get it, they decided to euthanize all of them. Yeah, not one, not least of which to keep them from just suffering and for there's a euthanasia aspect of it. And then beyond that, it's just a situation where you don't want to run the risk. Yeah, and it's a safety precaution and all that stuff. I'm trying to make it less awful. It's awful. They're testing it on ferrets, but it's also in fucking like Eastern Europe. So like, yeah, life is cheap. They tested on it. Especially a ferrets. Yeah. And we're going to get into a

little bit. The reality of what's going on here is an expression of a very lacking state guidelines. There's a there's a very serious lack in the Czech Republic of rules and strict guidelines with which these materials are handled. And that is why I feel like that should be important. That is why the situation happened. It's not because of some nefarious attempt to create a super virus or anything like that. It is a lack of oversight and the lack of regulation that caused this. And I know that because I've read the investigation about this. So it's a comedy of errors to some extent. Yeah, it's less comedic. But yes. Yeah, right. So this is a story that broke in the end of February. And we're now on March 5th.

Alex is going to say how important this is and then get very mad about it. And he's going to lie again. All right, we're back live. Let's get straight into the most important article. And I've never said this before. This is the most important article with pieces of the puzzle. The tumblers falling in place that I've ever covered. This story itself. I'm going to cover many articles. They're not headline accidental contamination of vaccine with live avian flu virus accidentally impossible. Real quick, that accidental is in quotes. And that's the name of Paul Joseph Watson's article. So he's he's not pronouncing the quotes, but hold on. This is in Canadian

papers like the Toronto Sun. It's in British. It's in German. It's in Czech. It's in Russian. It's in Japanese. It's in Chinese. English papers as well. Name four more languages. This story has been out for more than 24 hours. I learned of it last night and nothing in the United States. It's been out way more than 24 hours. And there was an article on February 24 about it in Bloomberg. So it's been out for a couple weeks and Alex is well, maybe a week, but Alex is lying. There's nothing about it in the American press. It's in fucking Bloomberg. I read the article, you can find it. So he's trying to create this idea that people are covering things up. They're not you didn't know about it. You're operating on bad information. So in this

next clip, he starts trying to read the actual article and he doesn't make it far before he starts literally making things up like any time we hear him read. He's just making shit up at the end of this accidental contamination of vaccine with live avian flu virus virtually impossible. And they were shipping this out. But a subcontractor did do diligence because so many times they don't irradiate the regular flu vaccine right and it hurts people that they tested on ferrets. As they're supposed to do. And if they haven't radiated it right, it makes the ferrets sick and they send it back. Well, guess what? It killed the ferrets. And so they tested the vaccine and it had bio weapon in it by a weapon. So the issue here is that like vaccines don't need to

be irradiated necessarily. That is one method of handling them. But it's not it's not some sort of like they weren't irradiated. You can refrigerate virus vaccines. That is one technique that people use. You can heat them or you can use chemicals in order to make them usable as a vaccine. Some processes do involve irradiation, but absolutely, it's not the only way that things are used. I don't see any information from the primary sources that Alex is pretending to get the information from that indicate that this was a lab that specifically used irradiation. Right. So I don't know about that, but he's trying to make a much bigger deal out of this. And the fact that he's saying that it killed all the ferrets leads me to believe that he doesn't have a handle on the

actual information. Right. Because he just keeps going back to that one piece of information. So my advice, if you're going to eat them, you're going to want to definitely freeze dry them before like if you're going to wait a couple of weeks, it's it's just like chicken, you know. Sure. You don't want to you don't want to leave it in the fridge for a couple of weeks. It's going to go bad. Couple days. It'll go bad. Yeah. You vacuum seal it. You put it in the freezer. That's my advice. Irradiate that chicken. I don't know if I would go that far. So now Alex gets to where he's getting his information from, and this is deeply, deeply problematic. them. They're saying there's no way this is on purpose. What on earth is going on?

So mainstream news is saying this and it sounds like Alex wrote it. Yeah. So that makes perfect sense. I went and I found all the Czech news sources. Yeah. The way I was able to find them is by reading Paul Joseph Watson's article and finding where he links to the Czech mainstream news sources. Okay. He doesn't. That seems he claims that seems so odd. That seems so odd for him to not link to them. He claims to he cites his sources. He does cite the sources as these mainstream Czech news places. Yeah. Now the link that he uses takes you to a blog post on a website called 911 blogger. What does he blog about 911? So now 911 blogger purports to have excerpts of the translation

from the Czech news articles. Now I went to the Czech news articles that he's claiming to source, and they don't say what he's saying. I trained. I got these articles translated. I got a pretty good handle on what they're saying, and it does not match what 911 blogger is saying. So it sounds like 911 blogger who could have been written by Alex Jones. More or less. Yeah. So now, but you have an interesting issue that's at play. And I think that this plagues all of Alex Jones's journalism is there are these Czech news articles. They're being interpreted by 911 blogger, right? Right. Who's saying that that's what these articles say. Who we can trust if he's if he's 911 blogger. Bless you. He's coming with some truth into your twin towers of ignorance.

So the 911 blogger purports to translate these Czech articles, and then also editorializes like crazy. Huh. So then Paul Joseph Watson writes an article based on 911 blogger's interpretation of these Czech news stories, and also doesn't make clear when he's quoting the editorializing of 911 blogger and when he's talking about the purported translation from the Czech. Now, a further third step is Alex Jones editorializing about Paul Joseph Watson's interpretation of the editorializing that 911 blogger did of the Czech news sources. This is a crazy game of telephone. If I've ever played a game of telephone, there's one thing I know. Right. It is that it is boring because everybody always hears the same

thing. Exactly. It's never funny at the end when someone is like, that's not at all what I said. So I went to the Czech news sources and what I found is more or less what I laid out at the beginning of this, that Biotest is the company that is most responsible for this fuck up of running this lab where AVIS Green Hills and Baxter International had interest in like, you know, they're farming, Baxter is farming out some of their work to this Biotest lab and AVIS Green Hills is also doing research at this lab and somehow Biotest is mostly responsible for the fuck up. That's what I was able to glean from these Czech news sources. Now, if you read 911 blogger.com, it's very clear that what he, I'm guessing it's a key,

I shouldn't gender, but they are saying it doesn't jive with that. Here's the first problem. 911 blogger states that quote, the Czech company Biotest near from Prague got from Austria a testing batch of the new flu vaccine for 2009 from an American company Baxter. In February, they have found that the vaccine was contaminated by the H5N1 avian flu virus. This is not what the primary sources say. They say very clearly that the Austrian company AVIS Green Hills was running tests on H5N1 in the labs run by Biotest who were also contracted by Baxter. This blogger is trying to imply that the vaccines coming from Baxter were contaminated from the beginning, which is not proven from the sources that he's cited. So that's number one problem.

Number two problem. 911 blogger states that quote, subsequently the same problem of the Baxter vaccines contamination with H5N1 was found in the laboratories in Slovenia, Austria and Germany, which confirms that the source of the contagion was in fact the Baxter vaccine. This is also not true based on the primary sources. The articles clearly say that the samples that ended up in Slovenia, Austria and Germany all originated from that Biotest lab where the AVIS Green Hills were running their tests under way too lax of standards and regulations. You taking notes? Do you want to jump in here? I'm just putting together the pieces. Problem number three. 911 blogger asserts that quote, first the company Baxter was evoking the trade secret as excuse and refused to comment

on how the H5N1 virus got into the vaccines. But then when it was already clear that the source of the contagion was in fact the Baxter vaccine, the representative then confirmed that the contaminated virus was produced by Baxter laboratories for the company AVIR Green Hills. While it is true that Baxter said that they could not comment on how things had happened without giving out proprietary information about their process, their full statement was quote, it was a procedural error that took place in our branch, but I cannot tell you the details as I cannot reveal our business secrets. But I can assure you that we've taken immediate action to prevent such a mistake implying in the future. They were not forced to into commenting because

it's clear that they were the source of the contamination. Yeah. Anything like that. This is complete editorializing and misrepresentation being done by 911 blogger that is then being mirrored and parroted by Paul Joseph Watson. It's so crazy that somebody who is named 911 blogger would spread this kind of information. And be so lax on standards. It's so crazy. So problem number four. He's the AVIR of bloggers. He's the source. No, he's biotest. He's the source of the misunderstanding. I thought, so here's what I'm trying to understand. It's kind of tough to keep everything right. I mean, I'm going to try and simplify it for what I understand the timeline events of events to be. Baxter and AVIR are working out of biotest. Yes. AVIR is working on

more directly. Right. And AVIR is working on the vaccine for avian flu. Or they're at least doing tests. They're studying it, right? Because of the lax standards of Baxter, biotest and AVIR, Baxter's vaccine is contaminated with a flu vaccine. Yes. Baxter is then sending this vaccine out to these other places. From biotest. Because if it weren't contaminated, that would be the correct process. Yes. So it's all just that they were sharing the same lab and nobody is really doing a good job of paying attention. Yes. Because of lax governmental regulation and standards, which we're going to get to in a little bit. Okay. But the other thing that's important is that before it ever became a public health crisis at all, those safeguards with the ferret testing and

stuff like that kicked in and everything was able to be locked down. Yeah. And the source of it was found, which is this biotest line, which is not the same company as Baxter. So it's very easy to make the miss under like they were subcontracting work for Baxter. It's not the same company. Right. So it's important to make those distinctions because Alex won't do it for you. So even with the lax standards, there was still a failsafe of like, Hey, are we murdering these things? Yes. Gotcha. So problem number four, 911 blogger says, quote, check authorities now will hopefully proceed with a prosecution against all companies involved. And of course, the suit for criminal negligence and public menace against Baxter is still on the table. This is not found anywhere

in the primary sources he's claiming to cover. What they do say is that Dana Drabova, chair, chairwoman of the state office for nuclear safety, quote, will begin administrative proceedings in the coming days against biotest. Then if they find culpability, they could face a fine up to 5 million crowns, which is approximately $228,000. This again is a chunk of change. It's an important distinction because that's not the same company as Baxter. He's saying that Baxter is facing prosecution. It's not biotest is right. So problem number five, so biotest is like the middleman. It's like a it's like a place that just has a lab. Yes. It's just like we got a lab. And if you guys want to do some tests, guess what? You can rent out our services. And presumably they have clearance to

do tests on like avian flu things. That makes it a very attractive place for AVIS Green Hill to do their research. So it's almost like a shared office space where you can like rent an office for a day with what you would need far greater controls over. Let's say we work or something like that. But yes, absolutely. We could just rent a lab for a day. Again, we're going to have a staff party. It's staff infection part. There you go. It serves the same purpose in as much as you have this company that needs a place to do work out of. You have a place where you can do work out of. You come together and everybody makes some money. And it's costing effective to have your own laboratory because you're not using it and or you do have your own laboratory, but it's not cleared to do

tests on this particular thing. So you need to do some of your work over there. Exactly. Because it costs way too much to raise all of your standards up to what you need. Exactly. Now, unfortunately, as we know all too well, most people don't follow the standards until they're caught. You know, a lot of people are humans. Dan, Dan, Dan, a lot of people. How dare you suggest that capitalism has a has an inherent grift involved? Well, the people who work at those places are still humans. Everyone cuts corners at the work they do, especially after a while. You work there one day and you fucking stick to all the rules. You work there two years, eventually you find out what's and what's going to get me caught. What's not. And before you know it, things are so lax that you

end up getting bird flu in your in your normal flu vaccines. That's, that's a tale as old as time. Indeed. That happens. You know what? You're, you're just lazing around. You're just googling shit instead of doing your work and then you get bird flu. That's just science. Like anybody who's had a job knows that's kind of the path. You don't like to imagine that that happens in official places, right? But it just might. Everybody's just kind of, it's, it's a gig for these people. You know, it's still a gig. Yeah. Speaking of gigs, 911 bloggers got one. That's making. No, he has a vocation. He has a calling and that is to blog about 911, dad. And other stuff. I don't know why this falls under the aegis of a 911 blogger, but who cares? Problem number five

with 911 bloggers coverage is that they, they close by saying quote, but was this just a criminal negligence or wasn't an attempt to provoke pandemic using a vaccine against flu to spread the disease and then cash in for the vaccines against H5N1, which Baxter develops. This is super irresponsible conjecture. And if he reads the articles that he's basing this post on, he would know that that's not at all what's being reported in the least. He further goes on to ask, quote, don't they follow even basic precautions in the American pharma companies? It turns out this was not the actions of an American pharma company that caused this, but an Austrian company subcontracting a check lab. And it also turns out, no, they don't have the regulations in place that forced

strict compliance to basic precautions. It is not an American pharma company that's behind this. You know, it's great. This is the plot of the BBC series. I don't know if it's BBC, but it's the British series utopia. It's fantastic. It's great. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it. Some parts in the second season lag, but otherwise, absolute dynamite. So that is, that series may be great, but that blog post is fucking irresponsible. Oh yeah, absolutely. That's how they end the blog post. Now, Paul Joseph Watson gets even more irresponsible as he adds his own layers. What? He adds his own- Our boy PJ Dubs! He adds his own layer of propaganda to reporting the 9-11 blogger post and pretends that he's

reporting on stories out of the Czech media. Quote from Paul Joseph Watson's post. According to a compiled translation from Czech, Czech newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic. And he quotes, Was this just a criminal negligence, or was it an attempt to provoke a pandemic by using vaccines or vaccination against flu to spread the disease, and then cash in with the vaccines against H5N1, which Baxter develops? How could on earth a virus as H5N1 come to the ordinary flu vaccines? Don't they follow even basic precautions in the American pharma companies?

States the translation. He's using the last paragraph where 9-11 blogger is editorializing on his purported translation, but Paul Joseph Watson is citing that in his Prison Planet article as something that comes from the translation from Czech media. So he's presenting the idea that the media is asking, the Czech media is asking tough questions. Was this criminal negligence or an attempt to cause a pandemic? Do they even follow basic precautions in American pharma companies? He's saying that that comes from a translation of Czech news sources. It does not. It comes from a 9-11 blogger.

So he's quoting 9-11 blogger who is editorializing about his quotes from the Czech media. His purported translation of these Czech news stories. So it's like a platformer. It's the completely unrelated parallel lines that are connected by Paul Joseph Watson's bullshit. Yeah, and Paul Joseph Watson uses 9-11 bloggers misreporting of the Czech newspaper to draw conclusions like, quote, the fact that Baxter mixed the deadly H5N1 virus with a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses is the smoking gun. Even he goes so far as to assert that, quote, there can be little doubt, therefore, that this was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1

virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne. That sounds right. PJW editorializes like crazy and just throws out his own opinions, masquerading his fact, quote. However, to reiterate, the key aspect of this story is that it's virtually impossible for live avian flu virus to find its way into a vaccine by accident, which I would respond to by saying there are plenty of ways that it can happen if proper protocols aren't in place for handling of hazardous materials. Samples could be unlabeled and get mixed up. Surfaces or

containers could be unproperly sanitized. There's hundreds of different little ways that contaminations could happen. In fact, I find it almost harder to imagine that it could happen on purpose than on accident. It's a much more extreme. If it were to happen on purpose, then people would know that it was happening on purpose. Someone would. A secret would get out. Everyone would kind of be talking about that, whereas the only thing that

makes sense in this circumstance for it to have gotten so far is that it was a fuck-up. And when you look into the sort of check, the check checks and protocols, are those wheat checks or rice checks? Corn. You do see that the conclusion that they came away with is it's way too easy for something like this to happen because of our lack of governmental regulation of things. Just like the way we treat our nuclear stockpile in this country, where it's just kind of fallen apart.

Perry's got that under control. Don't worry about it. Okay, cool. So from here, Paul Joseph Watson fills out his article with a standard template for an info wars article assertions that the vaccine companies are trying to cause a pandemic so they can sell more vaccines, implying that rich globalists stand to gain a lot of money if they sell more vaccines. And of course, the long debunked claim that the globalists want to kill 80% of the population. It's a very standard operation for info wars.

But this specific instance gives us a very valuable opportunity to trace the roots from a check story getting misrepresented by a conspiracy blogger who is in turn misrepresented by Paul Joseph Watson, whose story Alex then reports on his show as if it were actually based on any reality. This is a perfect encapsulation of info wars lack of journalistic standards. Almost like they were bio test. It's it's insane, man. It's it's it's crazy to look at this and see, oh, here's the original story.

Here's the first lie. Here's the second lie. And here's Alex reporting on the second lie as if it were the mainstream news. And he then lies about even that. He editorializes on the second lie, even it's it's fucking crazy. He's stage three cancer. Yeah, it's nuts. So now here's where things get really interesting.

I told you that Bloomberg had reported on this story on February 24th. They wrote that article in check. A good week before Alex is reporting on it and saying that there's nothing in the American media about this. Never. Bloomberg has put out an article about this. I've found this. And it's interesting because in this Bloomberg article, they claim that Baxter was to blame

for the contamination. There's a couple problems that I found with this. The first is that at no point in the source citations do Alex Paul Joseph Watson or 9-11 blogger site Bloomberg. They don't bring that up at all. So if they mainstream media fake news, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but the sources that they're using say the opposite. But Bloomberg is saying what's in line with their conjecture.

So I'm confused why they don't bring that up. Oh, that actually is interesting. It's very confusing because it actually. So they have a mainstream article that does kind of back up their bullshit. Well, they conceivably could. But the second problem is that I could only find that story by searching through the way back machines archive. And thus, I think it's entirely possible that article was based on bad reporting,

which they issued a retraction for, then took down the page. Right. I can't find the retraction for the story, but I have a really strong reason to believe that the Bloomberg story represents bad reporting. Yeah. What's my feeling based on? Well, Jordan, I was able to find a presentation that was put together by Carol Lehmert of the State Office for Nuclear Safety in the Czech Republic,

reflecting the results of their investigation into the incident of, quote, potential human bird flu outbreak. So this presentation makes it abundantly clear what happened and who was to blame. They reviewed communication records, lab documents, conducted interviews with everyone who was involved and the police, and it reflected that biotest was, quote, found to break several paragraphs of the Biological Weapons Prohibition Act, including, quote, illegal handling of GMO with evidence freely given to inspectors. The presentation reflects that biotest was the company at fault in this case,

not Baxter, and even concludes by saying, quote, officially nothing serious happened and called the chain of the incident a result of, quote, a chain of regrettable blunders, which could be remedied with better communications between entities, enhanced cooperation between national agencies, and possibly added legislation. And of course, firing the three stooges. Indeed. They further reflected in this report that, quote, biotest was under hard pressure from AVIR Green Hill to break national legislation and speed up tests of the vaccine.

See now, there is a big problem. I think there we found our biggest issue right there. Indeed. AVIR is just like, hey, hey, hey, get it done. Get it done. I don't care what fucking breaks. Right. But that's an Austrian company that is, is doing this research. Yeah. They're under the laws in place in their own countries, not in America. Right. And even so, what you see is that this fuckup is caused by the AVIR wanting to push through this

at a breakneck speed, getting mixed up with samples that had come from Baxter that were clean, people fucking up because they don't have adequate regulation on the ground. So that's now, hold on. Do Austrians hate the checks? I don't know. I don't, I don't know about that level of European. Okay. All right. It's entirely possible, but I don't know. So what we have here is a very clear case of when I read these check news stories,

they completely are in line with the results of the investigation that the check office of the state office of nuclear safety did. All that matches up. The things that don't match up are the misinterpretations made by 9 11 blogger that Alex Jones is now reporting on and this Bloomberg story that they aren't even talking about that has been taken off the internet. So I'm left with the conclusion that the check primary sources and their investigation that they did are correct and that Baxter was found not to be at fault in this.

Now, the reason that Alex is going to make them at fault is because they're a vaccine company. Oh, no. Mm-hmm. So he's going to use this to turn it into a whole anti-vaxxer thing. You bet. God damn it. But that's what's primarily motivating him now. God damn it.

Now, before we go too far and like make it seem like Baxter is some sort of a great company, they're fucking not. They have been involved in a lot of mess ups in the past. I'm not a fan of anybody in this story period. No, no, no, no. Especially not 9 11 blogger for some reason. No, 9 11 blogger is the worst. Even if 9 11 blogger was a perfectly legitimate journalist who reported on stories

accurately every time. I'm not going to believe anybody who's a 9 11 blogger. Yes. It's it's it's a tough hurdle for you to get over. Yeah. Incredibility. Yeah. But it's so it's so important that like we do make it clear that Baxter can go fuck themselves too.

But in this case, they weren't they weren't in the wrong. It was this biotest lab and the pressure that was being applied on them by AVIR Green Hills. So I. Right. It's like if Blackwater doesn't fuck up one time, you're like shit. You're right. You're not it's not your fault, but you're a fucking evil bunch of shit. You should be sued out of existence for other fuck ups you've had.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this isn't one of them. Yeah, yeah. So anyway. Who's there? Who's there? Oh my god. Dan.

Which one of us is going to play the other character? I don't know. I forgot who is I forgot this bit. I'm not sure whose team is who. 9 11 blogger you busted. Okay. And Paul Joseph Watson, you're busted. Yeah.

And Alex Jones, you're busted. Of course. This is such bullshit. This is this is a disastrous embarrassing propaganda effort that's being played out by multiple parties. And it's really difficult to see how much Alex is even aware. You know, like, I don't know what he's aware of. Does he know that 9 11 blogger is totally wrong?

Does he know that Paul Joseph Watson is reporting editorial statements by 9 11? Absolutely. It's come so he might, he might be getting tricked by this propaganda. Maybe, maybe here's my feeling of his complicity. He was like, Hey, I had the flu. I'm not going to get the flu vaccine. Paul Joseph Watson, write me up an anti flu vaccine thing. Paul Joseph Watson grabs on any story, starts quoting shit.

And then Alex, of course, because he's an idiot, just starts quoting Paul Joseph Watson. Anything is possible. Yeah. I can't say for sure. But now that we know all of the relevant details, the facts, let's enjoy. Alex, try and tell this story on air. Oh boy. Notice all of the points where he's just quoting 9 11 blogger as if it's the mainstream news.

We really don't like 9 11 blogger. The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live live H five in one avian flu viruses reports the Canadian press Toronto sun on and on and on Baxter flu vaccines contaminated with H five in one otherwise known as the human form of avian flu, one of the most deadly biological weapons on earth with a at least 60% kill rate were received by labs in the Czech Republic, Germany and Slovenia. All that's just quoting from 9 11 blogger.

You know, I will say this though. H five in one does have the best live show. It's true. They are great. They sold out the Chicago theater. They open for girl talk. Oh, so good. Um, so, you know, the, you know, the reflection that I'm going to have for almost all the

rest of these clips is he's quoting 9 11 blogger as if it's the news. That's not good. So that's bad. Here's the next one, but this is also where Alex starts to just make shit up. This was seemingly an attempt to quickly change the story and hide the fact that the accidental contamination of a vaccine with a deadly bio agent like avian flu is virtually impossible. And the only way it could have happened was by willful gross criminal negligence and mainstream news is saying that not just me go read the Toronto sun and others or read the checks.

They're going, this is insane. Oh, they're not stopped right there. Go just read the checks. That isn't even the evidence as damning as that is. That is secondary. That is tertiary. That is corollary. That is on the side of the road examples.

What is in the middle of the road? That's the instructions they gave the companies for the mixture of the falsely labeled vaccine was the exact complex preparation to create a mutagen. That's what gave you the 1918 Spanish flu that killed at least 50 million people. Is it? It was combined to mutate between the normal, extremely airborne, extremely contagious strain of flu with the bird flu to make it highly airborne and highly contagious. How could you?

Are you starting to hear what I'm telling you? They don't involve like none of these stories involved instructions to combine these things in order to create a pandemic. He's just making that up. That's not even in the 9 11 blogger stuff. Couldn't you put them in like a the same test tube and that would do the good enough job? Yes. Fuck it.

Fuck if I know just mix them like an old mad scientist thing. No, because the issue is that a lot of they need the incubation of human bodies to mutate and expand and stuff like that. So I bet Dexter's laboratory could have. I think they did a story like this. It's possible. But like, look, okay, so the issue of like instructions is just made up. That's not at all the issue.

Two parts flew. One part avian flew. You got it. So what we have here is this Toronto Sun article that Alex is also referring to. You do want some lemon zest in that though. That's really going to bring out the. Sure. That'll help make a pandemic.

Yeah. But the Toronto Sun article is where Alex is getting a lot of these fears from because this is decent reporting. They're discussing the science behind it and the possibility and the reason why this is a big deal. So they write from the Toronto Sun article, quote, accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences. While H5N1 doesn't easily affect infect people, H3N2 viruses do.

If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people. That mixing process called reassortment is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created. There's no suggestion that happened because of this incident. However, so Alex is taking this possibility that they're, you know, that they're discussing just as yeah, this is how you fill out copy. You know, you discuss the implications of the story.

He's taking that as some sort of a like, there was instructions in order to do this because it's going to be a pandemic. Right. And the next line is there's no suggestion that happened because of this incident. However, because it didn't. Right. It didn't happen because it was never injected into a person with both of those viruses in order to incubate a mutant virus.

And even then, really, you wouldn't know how it would mutate unless you had done this before. Right. Right. You couldn't possibly predict that it would just mutate the way that you like it. You couldn't just predict that it would mutate. Like you just put one in there and the other one in there and then it comes out that way. I think, I think even so, there's a little bit of unpredictability and randomness to it, even if you know what you're doing.

Yeah, exactly. It's not like baking a pie where you have the ingredients in you. Viruses don't like just do what you tell them to do. I don't think they do. Again, I'm not a scientist, so I'm not entirely sure, but I can read. So I can tell you that Alex is just full of shit. Right. And making stuff up to fit the narrative that he wants to be the case.

Right. Because he wants to scare you. See, see, see, if this would have gotten out and may have, we don't know. See, instead of your child just throwing up for two days, they die. They die. They die. You die. I die.

We die. Then they take those FEMA plastic coffins they've got stored all over the country and they come in in biosuits and they stick you in them. So they're putting you like that. 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,160 Remember my film Endgame. Remember Dr. Eric Pionka at UT saying he wants 90% of the American people, people of the world to die.

He can't wait till Ebola becomes airborne and kills 90% of the world population. So he's trying to scare you and then he brings in his other narratives in order to reinforce all of them. Yeah. The FEMA camps, the coffins. And then he brings in, I'll remember, Endgame by Great Movie that has a full bibliography, for sure. Don't look at it though.

It's a very full bibliography. However, do download the archived in CARTA. Sure. That's a good idea. Absolutely. That's the only way you're going to understand any of that film. The only way you're going to understand any of it. Then he brings in Eric Pionka who was in Endgame.

Alex very harshly mischaracterized him. His argument is that humans dying out would be great for the natural world, which is not an extreme statement. No, it's pretty much an accurate one. Yes. We are doing a lot of damage to the natural world. We are destroying the natural world. That's kind of what we do.

And if you are someone who believes that the natural world has more importance than humans, it makes sense that you'd be like, we should die. Or if you watch The Matrix and you are like, hey, that guy is right. Humanity is a virus. And then the other, this is so remnant. Like Alex's thinking is so infantile and so childish that he can't understand what Eric Pionka is saying. He's not advocating for everyone dying.

He's saying it would be good for Earth. Yeah. Now, it's the exact same thing. In this episode, he screams about FEMA camps and FEMA teaching their agents that the founding fathers were terrorists. And if you look at the video that he posts to make that argument, the guy's making a really fine argument. Yeah.

To some extent, you could absolutely say that they were terrorists. If you look at the time, they were insurgents. Yeah. Now, just because you're on their side doesn't make them any less terrorist in the activities that they were engaging in. Yeah, it's almost like they just staged an attack. They overthrew a government. To inspire fear in a larger government because they couldn't attack them directly.

Yeah. That was their recourse. Interesting. Huh. So like the only reason I bring that up is it's so indicative of like this inability to wrestle with ideas and just treat things like black and white concrete thinking. It's legitimately what I'm seeing expressed is like it's really low grade reasoning. It's good guys versus bad guys.

It's something that most people in terms of cognitive development should grow out of in their teens. You would hope. Like if someone were to tell me, let's say I was really into America and I loved it. I was very patriotic. And if someone were to tell me that someone is saying that the founding fathers were terrorists, I would say, what do you mean by that? And then I would hear, oh yeah, according to the British crown, they were.

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That makes total sense. No reason to be worried about that. But Alex doesn't ask the, what do you mean by that? He doesn't wrestle with the, what is the actual thing that's being communicated? He wrestles with concrete, literal fear and just extremes. And it's what, it's what children do. You absolutely cannot get into the mind of the exact person that you described because

the answer to that is no, they would be exactly as angry as Alex is. So even if they purported to be a reasonable, insane patriotic patriot, no, no, they're fucking insane. So in this next clip, Alex again thinks or is saying, it's hard to say whether he, what he knows and what he doesn't know, but he's wrong. And he says that he's quoting mainstream news articles. Again, this is just from 9 11 blogger. Do you understand what I just covered?

No. Well, actually. According to a compiled translation from check newspaper stories, the media over there is asking tough questions about whether the contamination was part of a deliberate attempt to start a pandemic. Mainstream news is saying this. Mainstream news. But not our media.

It's too controlled. Again, Bloomberg had an article about it already. Wait, how is mainstream news both saying this and then also mainstream news? Check mainstream news. So the globalists haven't taken over the check media yet. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't either. But this is how we learned that.

So the check media is the only independent news source in the region. Alex just can define things however he wants whenever he wants. It doesn't really matter. Fair enough. But the mainstream media in America, if he has many times said the Bloomberg is mainstream, even globalist controlled, they'd covered it days before he even touches this story. So that's out the window.

And then when he's saying like everything he's reading from that article, the like the media is asking hard hitting questions, you know, all that. He's just reading Paul Joseph Watson's article quoting bloggers editorializing as if it were from actual check news sources. I know I keep repeating that and I'm sorry to sound like a broken record, but it is so important. It is so important to understand how propaganda works. This is a chai-com nesting doll of lies.

It's a metastasized cancer. And most people listening to Alex would never know what is in the middle of that nesting doll. They would just see the outermost layer. Chocolate. It is chocolate. Yeah. Check chocolate.

The best. That's good chocolate. Propaganda that the Belgians make the best chocolate. The checks. That's true. Checks. Yeah. So yeah, it is important.

You have to open up the doll and see what's behind it. And it turns out, oh, it's a prison planted article. Then what's behind that? Oh, it's a 9-11 blogger. What's behind that? Oh, it's check new sources that say the opposite of what you're reporting. Right. All right.

You're a liar. You are bad at your job. And most people would never know. Most people listening to Alex would never know. This is really sad. Yeah. Very sad. Most people period would never know because nobody's doing the same amount of research

that you are. If you're talking about third removed sources, most people are not going to go that far. You know, nobody goes to the second page of Google. Yeah. You read one prison planet and then the percentage of people who are going to read even 9-11 blogger, the guy that he's quoting, very low. The percentage of people who are going to read both 9-11 blogger and then fact check 9-11 blogger,

insanely low. Translate check articles. Yeah, exactly. 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:20,760 No, that's, that's, like in the, in the same way that the human error is a reasonable thing to expect from a bullshit place like biotest, in the same way it's reasonable to expect that a human error would not triple check that news source. And I wouldn't take it down this far necessarily every time.

Like every time I find a story, it's often much easier to be like, oh, there's where the lie is. Yeah. And the moment you said 9-11 blogger, I was like, oh, there's where the lie is. It turns out it's a little deeper. The reason that I, I did as much looking into this as I did is I could smell this and I know this is going to be a big narrative for him. So I wanted to make sure we had this covered, maybe dead to rights. So as we go on for the next week or so in March, we're almost certainly going to continue.

Don't ever take vaccines because that's the way that they're going to create the global pandemic. And he's going to be saying that this bird flu is being released or something like that. So we'll just be able to say like, hey, he's back on that bullshit. Right, right, right. And then refer back to this episode. So this is one of our classic waystone episodes. I believe so. Yeah.

So in this next clip, Alex thinks that this is a breaking story when again, as I've already said this, the events actually happened at the beginning of February and play. So this all happened a couple of months ago. No, no. Or just a month ago. About a month ago. Okay, gotcha. But it was reported by Bloomberg on February 24th, at least.

So it's not breaking, but Alex thinks like, I'm on the pulse. He's got the scoop. And we're trying to track down where all it went, whether it's been shipped out. We're going to continue to track this as it develops. In fact, guys, keep googling for me during the breaks and printing the articles. Just the new mainstream articles are coming out every hour. No, they're not. Google accidental bird flu contamination.

Just Google that for me. Just keep on googling that. New mainstream news stories coming out every hour. Just hit refresh on the page. The only places that I could imagine we're actually covering this in the same way as Alex were. 9-11 blogger, 9-12 blogger, 9-13 blogger. 9-12 blogger.

That's a Glenn Beck site. Oh, that is Glenn Beck site. But 9-10 blogger is how we felt before 9-11, which was pretty cool. I did see a bird flu 666.blogspot.com. That's a great blog name. That was covering this. And I'm like, I'm not going to click on that. Oh, no, you should have absolutely clicked on that.

The devil is in the bird flu, Dan. I decided there wasn't much I was going to be able to get out of that. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to become the flu. All right. Fair enough. So Jordan, at this point, his coverage of the story is pretty much over. And what he does is he has Paul Joseph, not Paul Joseph. He's still not an on-air talent at this point.

He has Paul Craig Roberts on. Talk about how Obama sucks. Great. Great. Take a nice diversion from here. Your panic story about a pandemic coming and just talk shit on Obama for a bit. Obama for whom you have expressed giving him a chance.

And yet, again, day one to two months later is the worst human being that's ever lived. And Paul Craig Roberts' big claim to fame is that he's like, we got to vote for Obama because we have to repudiate George W. Bush. And a week later, he's like, fuck this guy. Yeah. Well, it's easier. Also, it bears noting we've talked about this a bit.

But it bears noting the Paul Craig Roberts has a dicey, dicey resume. He's written for Sputnik for years. Right. Beyond that, he is also listed on the editorial board since at least 2000 for an organization publication called V Dare, which is named after Virginia Dare, the first white child born in colonial America. Oh, boy.

V Dare is the 9-11 blogger of Colonial America. V Dare is the sort of outfit that likes to spend their time defending cross burnings that were specifically done to threaten black people. No, no, no. You can't defend cross. You can't. There's no defense of cross burnings. They consistently make the argument that diversity and freedom

are inherently contradictory. And also, they spend an inordinate amount of time defending people who deny the Holocaust. It's a real dicey outlet. Can you give me one defense of a burning cross? Like any defense of a burning cross? I mean, if it's cold and you're going to die. Oh, that's actually a great defense of a burning cross.

That's one. You can't defend it if it's a message. Right. Yeah, there's no good message. There's no like, oh, hey, man, happy birthday. There's no good burning cross. Paul Craig Roberts is also listed as a contributing writer for years for the publication Chronicles,

the magazine of American culture. Chronicles is a publication with very close ties to the League of the South, a legitimately neo-Confederate and white supremacist organization. Not good. Additionally, Paul Craig Roberts is a contributor to the American Free Press, a publication put up by Willis Carto,

a man so anti-Semitic that he was asked to leave the John Birch Society. Which is crazy. That's really anti-Semitic. Yeah. You got to be really anti-Semitic to be too anti-Semitic for an anti-Semitic organization. American Free Press is the new name of a paper

that used to be called The Spotlight. The Spotlight and the organization behind it, the Liberty Lobby, were specifically used by Willis Carto to use revisionist history and outright lies to demonize the Jews. That was literally his stated objective. You can't get much more anti-Semitic than this quote from Willis Carto.

Quote, Hitler's defeat was the defeat of Europe. No, man. And of America. Out. How could we have been so blind? Past. The blame, it seems,

must be laid at the door of the international Jews. What? If Satan himself, with all his superhuman genius and diabolical ingenuity at his command, had tried to create a permanent disintegration and force of the destruction of the nations, he could have done no better than to invent the Jews. Wow.

So. That is really direct. So Willis Carto. That is the definition of overt. He created this paper, The Spotlight, which became American Free Press, which Paul Craig Roberts writes for. Right.

He also writes for this, this Chronicles, which is connected to the League of the South. He also writes for Vidaire, which is named after the first white child born in colonial America. It spends a lot of time defending Holocaust. It's a trend.

Hey, man. It's a bit of a trend. It's tough. What do you say? What do you get paid by the word? 9-Eleven Blogger doesn't make any money. You've got to work for a publication, you know? If you're not going to get published in The New Yorker,

you might as well go to Vidaire. I understand you like to have a lot of fun here. You might as well go to Vidaire. Yeah. So Alex spends a bit of time talking to that cat. No. But how bad Obama is. Cool.

Bad. I wonder why he thinks Obama's bad. I wonder. It's mysterious. Yeah. Oh, but also at this point, he's probably also writing for Russian-owned media. Well, of course.

So there's sort of a confluence of his deeply racist and Nazi-adjacent writing and his. Its synergy. Yeah. Yeah. So Alex does that for a bit on the show. Then we get to the end or towards the end of the show where he has promised to do this.

I'm going to get a medical doctor on the last 30 minutes of the show today to talk about the connections to all the vaccines and massive outbreaks like the swine flu epidemic where they admit the vaccine killed tens of thousands and how that ties in with accidental contamination of vaccine with live avian flu virus, virtually impossible. So again, that's the Paul Joseph Watson article's title.

He's going to have a medical doctor in. And man, we're in early 2009. I was like, please be Dina Dell. Please be Dina Dell. Please be Dina Dell. Oh, not going to happen. That would be amazing. He'd just be like, Alex, what are you talking about?

You're not going to happen. Alex, you've got to read. What are you doing? Dina Dell would never do that. I think he's a persona non-gata now at this point. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because I have not heard word one of him in quite a while. Surprise.

The guy who doesn't butter Alex up, but instead points out how dumb he is. So I was like, who could this be? He's getting a doctor. A real medical doctor. So I'm like, is it going to be Rappaport? Is Rappaport going to appear? Is Rappaport a doctor?

Yeah, I think, no, maybe not. Medical journalist. I don't know. He could just say he's a doctor. Who gives a shit? That's entirely possible. Yeah. He's got a lot of like medical woo in his catalog.

Is General Sterberwein a doctor? Dr. Rima Labo is. Oh, OK. That's true. So I was like, maybe, maybe. Yeah? Mike Adams, the health ranger. He pretends he's kind of a doctor.

You know? He's the health ranger. Yeah. You've got to be a doctor. Otherwise, they don't allow you to reign. Who is this doctor going to be? Or is he full of shit? Is there no doctor?

I don't know. What's it going to be? So I could not have been more surprised when it gets to the end of the show. And this is what happens. This is mainstream news. This is deadly bird flu that we're trying to mutate. But let's just go ahead and go to Dr. Rebecca Carly.

Rebecca Carly. Tell us what's happening. Basically, they're trying to cause the pandemic. Whoa. They have already stockpiled at least 150 million doses of the bird flu vaccine. You know, the shelf life of that vaccine has a certain amount of time by which they'll

have to throw in the garbage. So they have to start the pandemic so that they can give the vaccine. Ah, OK. That's a fine monetary explanation. A little conspiratorial, perhaps. Rebecca Carly. Do you know who that is?

I, Carly? Nope. Would you be Marley and me? I, Carly and me? Alex has said he's going to have a medical doctor on to talk about this. Would you be surprised to learn that Rebecca Carly is not a doctor?

What? It turns out that, quote, in 2003, the New York board for professional medical conduct found Rebecca Lee Carly, MD, guilty of, quote, practicing well-impaired by a mental disability, and, quote, having a psychiatric condition which impaired her ability to practice medicine. What?

And suspended her license for five years on the condition that she seek psychiatric help. She did not. And the next year, they determined that it was a matter of protecting the public that she not be allowed to regain her medical license. That is really hard. Yeah.

They do not do that. Oh, but they did. People who are deserving of that are never... She's got to be going hard. Wait till you hear this. During 10 days of hearings, Zev Labans, a psychiatrist who interviewed Carly, gave some pretty damaging testimony.

He found her... She bit the head off a bat while I was interviewing her. He found her to, quote, have a delusional disorder with the presence of narcissistic and borderline personality traits. That's not good. From QuackWatch, a website dedicated to keeping track of dangerous medical practitioners

that's the 9-11 blogger of... It's not. Oh, OK. QuackWatch is actually really good. They do a lot of really good work and everything is cited. Everything has the proper citations. It's very professionally done.

The title... That's not a good name, though. Yeah. I mean, what it is it? It's watching Quacks. What are you going to do? I don't know. It's not like 9-11 blogger at all.

I mean, incompetent Dr. Watch? All right. You know, fair enough. Yeah. QuackWatch just doesn't inspire confidence. QuackWatch, quote. Dr. Laban's also testified that the respondent believes that her husband sodomized their son as a satanic ritual

because she does not vaccinate and because she cures children with autism. Dr. Laban stated that the respondent believes that her husband was fulfilling the government's role in performing anal penetration on their child and that this penetration sends a surge of energy to the child's brain, resulting in the compartmentalization of the brain, which she believes would cause

multiple personality disorder. Dr. Laban's also stated that the respondent believes that the government is interested in pursuing all persons who are opposed to vaccinating children, which is part of the global government plot in collusion with the drug industry. That came out in court. This is like if Alex was a doctor and they caught wind of him.

Yeah. Oh, also they did an investigation into that ex-husband and found that there was nothing to these claims and he got sole custody of their children. Oh, God. That's so good because that was a really fucked up thing that I really hope wasn't true. She just made that up.

Okay, good. That's just her paranoia. That was the satanic panic version of, okay, good. 100%. Okay. She believes that was fucking intense. She believes herself to be the target of a giant conspiracy because she alone can cure pretty much

every medical condition known to man and thus she's compared herself to Joan of Arc and called herself, quote, Gandhi with breasts. She's a little baddie. I mean, that would have been a way to fight the British. Rebecca Carley is a dangerously deluded and mentally ill person.

While I'd never want to judge her solely for that, she's refused to get the help that she needs and is now being used as a prop by the anti-vaccination groups of the world and Alex Jones to create dangerous propaganda and is therefore beyond the limits of my empathy. And she's a willing participant in the propaganda. She's made a living out of it.

I don't feel all that bad for her. I feel bad for her kid. I feel bad for the people in her sphere that are affected by it. But in terms of my empathy for her, just because she's mentally ill, she's had every opportunity to take responsibility and get better.

And she's not. Yeah, but she probably should be... Like, I don't want to ever experience or even advise this, but at her level, it almost seems like she should be committed. Maybe not permanently, but like an inpatient program. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not permanently.

But something that does... She clearly isn't capable of controlling this. And when she's surrounded by this gaggle of enablers who are not only enabling her behavior, but amplifying it to the extent that it only... Monetizing it. It only reinforces her belief that she is the only one to do this.

That is... That is a fucking abuse. You have a vested interest in never getting well. Yeah, that's an abuse of her. It is. Yeah. And it's tragic, but I also don't feel bad for her because she's a part of this.

Hey, you kill a million people, you're a bad person. Right. Yeah. She didn't kill a million people, but... Alex has brought her in as the doctor to verify his fears about this avian flu release, which should tell you that most people probably wouldn't come on. If he's pulling this out and he has...

If he has used the googling that he has asked his staff to do and they just Google her, they would find this 2003 stripping of her license. He would know that she's not a doctor and all she does now is offer holistic advice to people and detox advice and things like that that you can do without a medical license. He would know all that,

yet he's still choosing to present her as a medical doctor with some sort of a credibility in order to further his propaganda that this is a pandemic that the globalists are trying to create. Every piece of this stinks. And just as a little added bonus, in 2012, Rebecca Carly would go on another conspiracy radio show and call out Alex Jones for being a shill for Israel.

All right. Okay. Good. Good. Even he gets stung by this hornet eventually. Good. All right. Fine.

I want to know her story now. I'm really fascinated. I think I told you most of it. No, I mean... She was actually apparently a legitimate surgeon. That's what I'm interested in. How long was she a medical doctor for before... I don't think very long.

Yeah, before this kind of exploded on her. I read... She was probably technically proficient. I read some article and I believe... I don't want to be quoted on this, but as I recall, it was towards the end of graduating from medical school. Is when things started to get weird.

Yeah. So I don't care as much as you if you want to write a biography, go for it. All I care... Well, I mean, it's just like... If you've ever read An Unquiet Mind, like it's a very interesting story to me. Fine.

It could be an interesting story, but what I'm concerned about is she's being used as an expert of some sort here. Oh, yeah. When she's delusional specifically about the things that Alex wants her to be an expert about. I agree. I agree.

All right. So that's the most important thing. Now we have one last clip that I believe is just... Well, we'll call it a punchline to this whole thing. Okay. Because as we've clearly demonstrated, Alex is reporting a story as if it's truth using 9-11 blogger and Paul Joseph Watson's

misrepresentation thereof as if it were mainstream news in order to try and scare people into his worldview and reinforce his beliefs about FEMA camps and all this other bullshit that the globalists are trying to kill you. Right.

In service of this, he brings a medical doctor who six years prior had her license revoked for being delusional and narcissistic and having borderline personality traits that make her a danger to the public to be allowed to practice medicine. It's not good.

Now, here is how he ends this show. People watching, listen, you can't laugh at us anymore. You can't say it isn't happening. Agreed. All right. Agreed. I have proved my case.

Wow. You can't laugh at me anymore. You've done nothing, Alex. This is so stupid. Anyway. That's heartbreaking. No, it's not. No, no, no, no.

I mean, this, I, well, first off. It's pathetic. I'm still, I'm still wrapped up in her story, which is a tragic tale. That's a, that's a classic tale. Sure. And also, like, anytime you are this thorough,

like, I stop with, I don't have the, the, the, the, like, I don't know, certain dance on the grave, so to speak, that you sometimes have because you fucking kicked ass. Right, right. I'm, I'm still on the like, holy shit, you can't be this bad.

Like, because this is bad. I feel exactly the same way, even though I, I guess I'm dancing on the, hey, we got that episode done. Well, because you kicked ass. I appreciate that. But I am still confused too, because there's parts of research that I can do

and parts that I can't. Like I can lay out the facts based on the Czech stories, the Czech investigation, all that stuff. I can do that. But what I can't do is tell you what Alex believes. I can't tell you if this is a manifestation of incompetence or willful deceit.

Now further, I can't tell you what Paul Joseph Watson intended when he wrote that article. I assume lies. I know he doesn't, he's not acting in good faith. Absolutely not. But I don't know if he believes that the 9-11 blogger is accurate. I don't know if his editorial standards are so low

that he's just like, oh fuck, this is absolutely true. Or if he's trying to pull fast one and knows that the source is bad and but it reinforces my worldview. So I'll just go ahead and use it. I don't know. I can't tell you. So it leaves me a little cold too.

Because I would love to sit here and tell you, Alex is fucking brah, brah, brah. I don't know. He might, we're on the stupid evil continuum again. But stupid is still a little evil in this case. Right. No, of course. Evil is incredibly stupid.

No, of course. Absolutely. I agree with you all across the board there. I'm just fascinated by, well first off, does Paul Joseph Watson have a significant other or partner? I think he does. I think he might have gotten married recently. Oh, we should put in a call.

It's not super interesting. Their personal lives aren't really all that interesting to me. But it is not. No, absolutely. I'm just saying that I don't know if I've ever experienced Paul Joseph Watson acting in good faith. Yeah. You know?

Like if your entire life is built around being a bad actor. Right. But you know, this is an extreme example, but a lot of serial killers, they have friends who say they're nice people. That's true. Sometimes you can compartmentalize these really shady parts of yourself.

Right. And then be normal all the rest of the time. But then you kill your wife. I think it's a, I think, I got it. I got to push back on that just because you brought up Paul Joseph Watson's wife. It's irresponsible to assume that they have a bad marriage. Agreed.

Or that he doesn't. No, no, no. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not making a comment. He may be a great guy. I'm not making a commentary on what is or is not. I'm just saying he's probably going to kill his wife. I feel like that's super irresponsible. That might be irresponsible.

I do not stand behind you on that. But I, yeah, it is interesting the idea of like where is sloppiness in reporting and strict evil? Where's the line? I don't know. Where is, where is propaganda versus just being a, being shitty at your job? Yeah.

But secondarily, I don't think it matters all that much because the effect is the effect of propaganda. Right. So even if you're just being sloppy, right, the way you're using that sloppiness is furthering evil propaganda. And so we must judge you based on that. Right.

Now if we're judging you too harshly and you're just bad at your job, sorry, I'm sorry about that. But also you have a track record of being a propagandist. So the benefit of the doubt is not yours. If this existed in a vacuum, we'd be much more conflicted. Yeah, exactly. But since this is episode 200, something in this fucking show,

I think we have a pretty good idea that Alex probably was acting intentionally. And Paul Joseph Watson was probably, he probably knew damn well that this was a bad source. Yeah. If it was like a guardian article making this argument, you'd be like, all right, you guys just, just fucked up this time.

Or that's how I feel about the Bloomberg article that's taken off the web. Yeah, you fucked up this time. It's very possible that you listen to a, like a spokesperson for biotech and assume that that was the reality. Right. Biotech spokespeople obviously are going

to be shifting the blame somewhere else. So if you report based on an interview that you did with the spokesperson for biotech, or I keep saying biotech, biotest. Biotest, yeah. If you're doing that, then yeah, that's bad reporting. And if you're Bloomberg, you don't have a check office or anything.

You're not like, you're not in on check affairs. It's the level of acceptable sloppiness that you can do. Right. And good outlets, respectable outlets, when they behave like that, make every effort to like, whoops. Yeah, not every effort. Hopefully.

Make an effort. And in our, in our idealized world, hopefully they do a better job. Most of the time they still print retractions, even if you don't see them all the time, they do happen. They're very low on those. Yeah. So that's the example I would say of like, just sloppiness.

And Alex is the example of malevolent. Yeah. Bad, bad, bad production, bad stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bad news. Yeah. Bad fake news. Bam.

I'm going to hit Alex with a rolled up newspaper. Bam. Boat. Stop it. So that was, I mean, we're done now. And that brings us to the end. This was, this was kind of tough because I think I, I think I mentioned this before we started recording.

The experience of researching this was, you know, the roller coaster ride of the source trail. And then getting to the check articles and being like, Alex is wrong. They're reporting this wrong. And then a little bit later, finding the Bloomberg article and being like, wait, this is saying that Alex is right. Yeah.

Why didn't they use this article? Yeah. What's going on here? And then finding the check investigation and being like, Oh, the, you know, this is after they've already gone through all of the details. Yeah. So the check articles were right. It makes sense that the Bloomberg article is taken off the internet.

Alex is wrong. But it was really, of the investigation of like the research that I've done, this was the one that's like, it really spiraled around a lot more than other times. Most other ones have been much more linear. Yeah. Of like, Alex is wrong. Here's more evidence that Alex is wrong.

01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:10,760 Here's more evidence that Alex is fucking wrong. I'm always a big fan of when you, you like, don't just research, but almost like you close a case. Right. You know, like you, you followed down the rabbit hole and then you catch the serial killer at the end. I'm always a fan of that.

No, and no one's dead. Alex is just a liar. No, he's just a liar. Anyway, we have a web. Well, all the people died of avian flip. That's true. Yeah. All of them.

All of them. Well, the first, the first, they only got the first batch out though. So like a few thousand people. And by, by the way, like, let's, let's look at this realistically. There has not been a bio weapon release in the 10 years since he, nine years since he did this episode. And Syria there has, but, but well, that's, that's different. And he, Alex denies that.

Oh yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. When a bio weapon was released, Alex said it wasn't true. But again, that's not a pandemic related bio weapon. So that's why it didn't come to mind. I'm thinking of like disease weapons and stuff like that that are contagious. Because that's specifically what Alex is talking about.

But if we look at that Ebola outbreak that happened, what was that a couple years ago? Yeah. There were some deaths from that, but it's amazing how well that was treated. And the fact that it was contained as efficiently as it was, if the globalists were trying to cause some sort of a bio release the way Alex is depicting it, that fucking Ebola outbreak would have been a disaster. Yeah. So to me, to me, these arguments fall so fucking flat.

The idea that there's some sort of nefarious world power that wants to release something. Because if they did, they would have done it. And it seems like if you were going to do it, the extent to which you would do it would have to then be so overwhelming that all of the safeguards that we have in place, all of the people who are acting in good faith, trying to avoid these circumstances would have to be overpowered in some sense. Or you wouldn't create it. But when that Ebola outbreak happened, you would have done little things in your power

to make sure it spread. Yeah, you would have piggybacked it. You would have taken that as an opportunity to do the thing that Alex is saying you desperately want to do. Right, right, right. And that didn't happen. And so to me, all of this seems like bullshit. All of it just seems like fear to sell shit.

Yeah. And to get people more deeply entrenched in Alex's cult, which nine years later, he would use as a multi-level marketing introduction. So all of this, the fact that we know, Oh man, I don't want to live in the president anymore. He's a medium. He's not even a top dog. He's at the medium range.

And it's really funny that sort of we know where this all is going because of that. Like it's kind of funny to look at the things he's doing in 2009 with the framework of like, we know where this leads. This leads to Avon. Yeah. All roads lead to Avon, Dan. It's really weird. We're going to be multi-level marketing scammers here very shortly.

It's so fun that he like, this leads to like legitimate legitimacy in terms of like the election and all that. Like he had his moment in the sun and like Icarus. He flew far too close and now he's fucking selling Mary Kay. The worst. God, we gave him such good advice. Yeah. What an idiot.

People don't listen. No. Anyway, we have a website, KnowledgeFight.com. We'd love it if you'd go check that out. Absolutely. Oh shit. I'm going to do the thing that I always forget to do. I'm at Zamy's in Rosemont.

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I'm featuring, I'm featuring. I'm featuring at Rosemont. Who's headlining? Uh, fuck if I know. Oh boy. It's probably. Oh no, I think it's Uncle Lair. Uncle Lair.

Larry Reeve. Larry Reeve. Uncle Lair. The Chicago legend. The guy who's been around for god damn it if it isn't all of comedy. I think you started in the Catskills. I think so. I don't know.

Yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, that's great. People should go check that out. Yeah. If you want to. Tickets still available. I don't know. Probably.

Try, don't, don't buy them. Find a way together. It's UnJordan the message to put you on the list. Yeah. They'll, they'll, they'll give away, they'll give away tickets to anybody. They need to fill seats. Yeah. Yeah.

To drink minimum is all they need. Yeah. Uh, also we're on Twitter. Oh, we are on Twitter. At Knowledge. Are we on Facebook? We are on Facebook. We're a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.

It's fantastic. If you go to our website, knowledgefight.com. There is a button at the top that says support the show. We would appreciate it if you like what we do to support the program. I am, uh, in the middle of being very, very serious about, uh, preparing the rewards that we have for the, um, our goals and, uh, you know, if people want to support that, even though it's a little mysterious at this point, we would appreciate it. Listen, I love all of the policy wonks and I want there to be more of them.

Totally. Please make sure that we only get to 99% of the goals. So I don't have to do this fucking documentary. Well, see, that's, that's what's fun is like, that is a very attainable goal. The other one that's further, you have to do nothing for it. So you are, you sort of should be conflicted about the, uh, the growth as it were. But, uh, other than that, man, I don't know. We're on iTunes, uh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Indeed. Um, God, I feel like there's just like beyond, beyond the multi-level marketing scheme. There's like something that you should remember about. There is. There is one thing. What is there? So this avian flu shit. Yeah.

It didn't kill anybody. It didn't. But there's one guy who Alex Jones probably did kill. So his death toll might be higher than this conspiracy that he's selling. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan.

I love your work. I love you.