Knowledge Fight - #207: Bus Station Photography and The Magic of Zoom

Episode Date: September 19, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan take their Wednesday break from talking about Alex Jones to break down a new interview from Project Camelot where Sweary Kerry talks to a guy who claims he has photographed cities on the moon. Also, the gents wrestle with some massive Eddie Page related news and fantasy book the next chapter in his story.

Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages while talking about Alex Jones. Indeed we are, Dan. Yep, what's up?

See, you get fancy at the beginnings, and I always say the same thing. So I wanted to try and get creative with my lilting boys. Yeah, no, you were doing great. My roller coaster of affects. I wouldn't say that it's a good thing to like run with, but as far as the first shot in the dark, I think it's a blue sky thinking. I think there's no bad ideas. Okay.

Maybe try falsetto the entire time. I may do that. Let's take it again from the top. Hello. See, perfect. Thank you. I think we just nailed it. Um, so what's going on, man?

Uh, I don't know. I think that bit preceded my bit, so I'm cool with it. You don't need to ask me a vague question. I think I don't need to ask you a vague question. Although I am starting to like the fact that every vague question I have, uh, it, it results in a like long story from you longer than expected. So you don't want to give it a shot. See if you can, uh, see if you can strike pay dirt.

Let's see. Uh, Dan, Dan. Yeah. There we go. When did you first try hot sauce? First try. Oh, that's an interesting question. I don't thank you, but I don't think I have a good answer for that.

I mean, thank you again. I mean, I did it. I liked salsas growing up and what have you. Sure. Um, not a hot sauce. Remember, uh, my friends had like Dave's insanity sauce. Uh-huh. And I would try that every now and again, but that's just gross.

That's just like really disgusting heat. Never heard of Dave's insanity sauce. It was like an old prank sauce kind of thing. You know, you trick someone to eating it. There's a prank sauce? A lot of hot sauces are basically just for pranks. Oh, okay. They're so bad tasting, but they're super hot.

Uh-huh. There's no way you would want to eat them. So, so they are the, uh, like peanut brittle of, uh, condiments. Sure. Sure. They're always filled with exploding snakes. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely. The can, the next nuts. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. Uh, probably within the last like four or five years or so is when I've gotten interested in like hotter hot sauces, certainly,

but I've always had a taste for the spicy. I just, I just am fascinated by when we were in Austin and you spent God knows near an hour in the hot sauce store. Mm-hmm. Just, just, uh, taste it, just taste in hot sauces. Yeah. I find that, I find that interesting. Swing and a miss in terms of it turning into a story.

I know. But noble effort. I thought it was a great question. It's, it's not bad. And, uh, speaking of all other things that are not bad. In fact, they are good. Great transition. Thanks.

They are good. Uh, like you give a shout out to some new donors to the podcast. Like to say, first of all, thank you, John. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Johnny. Thank you very much, John. Also, I'd like to say thank you to someone else who was joined up

with the team. Very thrilled to have this person on board. Thank you so much, Perla. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you much. Welcome aboard, Perla. Also, one, one last wonk to welcome, welcome aboard on today's, uh,

voyage. Say thank you so much and welcome aboard, Andrew. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you. Thank you very much, Andrew. You have joined our, uh, our, uh, Dakotas as being one of Andrews. Most numbered names that we have.

I don't know about most, but there are, there are some Andrews and we welcome them all and appreciate them all. All Andrews are welcome except for Andrew Wright, who I went to elementary school with. If you're that guy, fuck off. Or Andrew Breitbart, cause you're dead and I know that your credit card doesn't work anymore. I don't know if that's true.

I know he voted in the last election. I'll tell you that right now. 10 million illegals voted in his name. That's absolutely true. Um, so Jordan, today it's wacky Wednesday. What? It's wacky Wednesday. It is.

So that means one thing and one thing only. We are taking a little break from Alex Jones conversation to, uh, dive into one of our other side worlds. Um, and I'm betting we're going into Jim Baker today. We are not. Oh shit. Doing project Camelot. Really?

And here's the reason why. Carrie has been going buck wild, putting out stuff. Oh, okay. Good. She's been putting out a lot of content lately. Whereas before it was a little bit of a dry spell. She wasn't putting out a whole lot. That's what I was saying.

We, we had to only had like, uh, for a stretch there, we'd only done one project Camelot in like three or four weeks. So I just assumed that she didn't put out enough high quality content for us to take it down. She wasn't for a while. And then now she's sort of back to fighting shape. She's back in form in mid season form as it were. Hey, all right.

And she is, she's swinging for the fences and it's great. Also, there's something that's going to come up on this episode that I think is one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. Okay. And, uh, so it necessitates us talking about this, Gotcha. But also at the same time, the reason that we haven't been going back to Jim Baker so much is almost, I think we've dealt with him.

Like we didn't kind of nail it. I've listened to a bunch more episodes and it's so much crass salesmanship. Yeah. It's so pathetic. Yeah. It's like, I've listened to him and I'm like, well, how would we talk about this?

It'd be exactly the same thing as a bunch of the other episodes. Yeah. But he's not always wearing a tuxedo. So that's true. Yeah. But I like a banquet bucket, but sometimes you just need a regular bucket, but a regular bucket, but I do, I do reserve the right to, if he has someone else on like Apollo white cane or something

like that. Oh yeah. No, she should be hit by a car. Then it's worth getting back into and dissecting the sort of intersection of his doomsday faith buckets and politics. Yeah. Like I think that's worthwhile, but he's not doing as much of that in the episodes that I've watched and I don't want to waste

hours and hours of my time like fishing in this dry well of Jim Baker. It's a waste of my time. I think, but everybody wants you to do that. Right. And we, that's fair. People do want me to be pissed off. That's, that is sort of part of the charm of the show.

That is a little bit of the show is everybody wants you to torture yourself so we don't have to. Yeah, I guess so. Then also the other thing too is I want to expand the sort of bullpen the roster of non Alex Jones stuff. And so in the future, one of the things that we are going to do, you and I have discussed this off air. I might as well let people know.

I think we're going to talk a bit more about Joe Rogan in the future. Yeah, I think we're going to dive into a little bit of his catalog and go through some of that stuff. Yeah. But that's pretty intensive. And so I'm not ready to do that today and thus we talk about Project Camelot.

And like I said, one of the funniest fucking things I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. We, we talked about maybe doing an episode with Jordan Peterson on it. Yeah, and I actually think that's not worthwhile as worthwhile. I think a lot of people are doing takedowns of Jordan Peterson and God bless them for it.

Yeah, you know, I don't know if we need to read create other people's work that's already been done. But I think that there's a story going on with Joe Rogan's path towards his alt right Nazi adjacent behavior. Yeah, that is not being told. I think there is a path that is interesting that I found through analyzing his guest list that I think is worth getting into. And I hope we can do that in the very near future.

And look, I'm not saying that it's contingent upon this, but if you want to support the show, it helps a lot towards us making these goals that we have a reality towards making the, the, you know, making the work that needs to be done easier to do. Yeah. So if you would like to support the show like all these policy wonks, we've shouted out today and every day in the

past, you can go to our website, knowledge fight.com, click support the show. We would appreciate it. Perfect. So Jordan, today it is time for Project Camelot. Yes. Here is an out of context drop from today's show. I have remote view the moon actually.

Okay. All right, Carrie. Nope. You can just look up. She's got a remote view that. What, what, what does that even mean? She's gone to bed and dreamt of the moon. And the bed like if you're remote viewing, does that mean

she stood on the moon? She has the experience of her astral body being on the moon, I guess, or something like that. Not that interesting though. I would, I would assume it's not, but turns out it fucking is. Okay. Well, then I'm now I'm in that is going to be a theme on

today's episode. How interesting is the moon? So that is a game show that would last exactly three episodes. So Jordan, today is episode. It starts unlike any other episode of Project Camelot. I've ever heard in that I don't know why Carrie didn't just say I'll start half an hour later.

Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy and it turns out Eddie Page is a giant racist and I apologize. Is that how it starts? Hey everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight. But unfortunately my guest Bruce seized all I think he didn't get my message sort of scheduling him for an agreed

upon time. So I texted him over on his channel where he just posted a video to have this conversation on air. Maybe he'll see my comment under that video reminding him and she commented on a video wires crossed as to the time when he was going to come on the show. All right, so so if I understand correctly, we got a no show if I

understand correctly. Yeah, this guy was supposed to be on the show. Bruce sees all Bruce sees all. Oh, I thought his name was like Bruce see all like I thought it was Bruce see period. All it says if his vision is everything he sees everything he sees all. Yes, Bruce omniscient.

His name is Bruce Swartz. I believe. Okay. Yeah, so she messaged him right through whatever messaging app. He did not respond. Turns out he was live streaming at the time or or uploading a video or something.

She commented on the video. Hey, remember how you're going to do my show at this exact moment right now. Yeah. And so she still went on air. See, that's the part that's confusing to me is like you can just not do it. You just do not do the show like does she have a live streaming

time? Is she like a we live stream at 5 p.m. I don't from from everything I can tell. No, it's pretty it's pretty inconsistent because she's like three or four in a week and then none in a week. Okay. You know, so it's not like same bat time same bat channel. You know, it's not like that.

It's right. Right. But I admire it. She went on air just to cuck him out for not showing up on somewhat and I look I'm confused by you don't why you don't just say, Hey, I didn't show up. I got the night off, but I also like I'm saying I admire the hustle.

I admire the like, No, we are doing the show. He was supposed to be here just because he's not here doesn't mean we're not going to do the fucking show and shit show business. Absolutely. It isn't show hobby show business, not show beeswax. Hey, how you doing? So beeswax sees all actually.

So because this guy is a no show, that means the carry needs to spend the beginning of the show. I don't just basically doing some housekeeping, you know, just like, you know, I'm saying like, Hey, by the way, aliens are real guys. I know we're waiting for our guests, but let me just run down the list of things. Weather weapons totally real.

That's what happened in North Carolina. I don't even know if it's still there raptors. They are actually in the hurricane and that is why people are dying. They are being hit by flying raptor raptor came. Yeah. Oh, that would be a that's the next movie. That's a sci-fi channel movie right there.

Undoubtedly. Damn it. They should hire her. Yeah, totally. Oh, so they she asks for like questions, but of course none come in. And so she just sort of rambles and checks in on some things that are happening around the world of Project Camelot.

Okay. I do want to say that Eddie Page had his Facebook. He has two Facebook pages. If I understand it correctly, both of them have been taken down last night and so does his YouTube channel. So go ahead and say that he's a racist something. He said did not agree with the powers that be racist or want to be or think they are or whatever you want to call him

and so gone. His channel is gone and that's not even getting like strikes. That's not a normal procedure. That is basically the only people to have the control to do that would be the CIA. Wait, what? That sort of people. So obviously Eddie Page is now hitting a nerve.

Okay. So Eddie Page and that nerve is racism is the idea of a society getting along. Yeah. So Eddie Page has been kicked off Facebook and YouTube by the CIA or the USA could be both could be both. That's true. So it's interesting that on the 15th of September, Carrie

Cassidy put a blog up on her website. New info. Are you Eddie Page on an hockey or Pleiadian? Oh, wait, wait, wait. So now Eddie Page's heritage is in question. The worm has turned for Eddie Page. He is. It turns out things have fallen apart between him and

Carrie Cassidy. Wait, wait. So this this is prior to September 15. It has to be. But I think only by a day. Okay. All right. This is from this last week.

Okay. So Eddie Page is taking off of Facebook. Huge NSA CIA conspiracy. Yes. The next day is Eddie Page a giant liar. Okay. All right. I like it.

So now what it turns out is that so I'm going to read this as a quote from from her blog post quote Maggie who works with Eddie and who has been seen on the YouTube videos with him has taken down his YouTube channel as well as both Facebook pages Project Aquarius and Michael Wolf. Those are the two names of his pages on the urging by quote Daniel, one of Eddie's Pleiadian brothers and Michael another brother who has been in contact with Ari from

Shattering the Matrix, which is another online sure. Sure. All right. All right. I'm tracking. So here's why they contacted and told them to take stuff down. He went on someone else's show and he purported to show a photo inside a Pleiadian mother ship.

All right. All right. He showed this picture on this other person's show and it turns out that if you reverse image search this or if you just kind of know it turns Google it. It turns out that this photo is a snapshot from a video game called Secret World Legends God damn it. Eddie, you're being too specific again.

Mmm. God damn it. The Internet will find you also in a previous video. Eddie claims a UFO to be the Pleiadians, but it's a photo taken long ago in the book UFO contact. Oh boy. Yeah. So wait, wait, wait, hold on.

Hold on. There's some important information that we haven't handled then if this is true, is Kerry not a Pleiadian now? Well, I don't think that she ever really went too far with that. I think she was flattered by it, but I don't think that she was like now I'm a Pleiadian. I think that was more of like a aren't you pretty? That kind of thing.

Oh, that's not good. That's how she took it. I think she's like, oh, aren't you as noble as a Pleiadian or something like that? Hmm. I don't like it. So now that should have been your first sign that Eddie Page is full of shit.

This blog post is fucking crazy. Okay. Because it's very clear to any right thinking person that what's going on is that Eddie Page is using pictures of UFOs and being like, oh, yeah, that's my Pleiadian ship or like snapshots from video games. And that's the mother ship. Just like his medals are representative of the real metals.

So are these pictures representative? Not of what they are, but of the idea that they represent. Uh huh. So now they're synecdoche. So here's where Carrie goes with it. Quote, now Eddie has been caught in a few lies recently involving pictures of craft and a control panel on an interview he did with another host called Ari from Shattering the Matrix.

I'm in contact with her and apparently he claimed the photo from a sci-fi game. If I understand what they're saying is the inside of a Pleiadian ship. Either the photo is from a game. There should not be an either or situation. This is not an either or parenthetically assuming the gamers didn't have access to classified photos of real Pleiadian.

There you go. There you that's there. That's your out. And so Eddie is lying or it is possible. Eddie is deceived because the inside of the ship looked so much like his memory. He mistook it for such should have taken the first out. That second one is tough.

Yeah, that second one might be might be a bridge too far. Dan so while this is clear evidence that Eddie is a con man and he's passing off things as like all that's part of my story. Yeah, much like he did in the last episode that we did where he's just using the books of Sitchin as like this is my life story and stuff like that in reality that's not what gets carried to be like oh no what's going on here so from the here here's where she makes her point clear quote I've made very

public statements and revealing my position to Eddie's convoluted claims of future diabolical events that show that there is a problem in his religious overlay that in my view must be from childhood mind control where he believes emphatically in a punishing God to such an extent that he also considers himself to be a punisher judge jury of humanity as well as executioner calling himself Abaddon the conflict where he called himself apparently he has okay the conflict

in his mind over this appears when he claims in the same breath that he loves humanity and that he and his father want to save them so because of his things that he said on the show where he talks about his father and the the wrathful extermination of the Draco yeah stuff like that as opposed to it being some sort of light being like she knows the Pleiadians to be of course she has decided that he must be on a knocky. You can't just break up with somebody Dan you have to have a reason

quote this is key this is key his father is just a Pleiadian ruler slash administrator of a small group of Pleiadian planets not even the large group he claims not all the planets within the Pleiades and his group are working with many other races within the Galactic Federation which by the way according to Ashayana Dean are in violation of the peace treaty with Earth and many of the races are part of the Luciferian Rebellion they are not aligned with the Guardian Alliance which is a

group of races who are defending and safeguarding humanity I've given this info to Eddie about the Guardian Alliance versus the Galactic Federation however to my knowledge he did not bother to read the Voyager books to determine the truth. What an asshole I'm telling you right now this is the only reason to not like Eddie Page if Eddie is a member of the warrior clan known as the Anunnaki and is one of the

hybrid reptilians then so it is likely are all his brothers and sisters that is a classic if then statement yep I can find no faults there Dan the testimony by Eddie on my recent interview about the Pleiadians shooting down our satellites an act of war is perplexing and one would have to figure out if this was an act to disable the secret space programs battle group communications in support of the dark side Illuminati Draco takeover or whether the satellites belong to the dark

side Luciferian rebellion and therefore belong to the enemy of humanity and shooting them down as an active defense of humanity exclamation point exclamation point question mark question mark this is a lot of exclamation points this is an important question this is an important point excuse me so now okay I all right I think you start to see the issue that Gary has backed herself into and that she can no longer say that Eddie is a liar she has to make him evil now but

unfortunately in doing so she now has created a super villain because Eddie Page could now like really lean into that oh yeah no this is going to be great he could lean into like yes in fact I am evil I am Abaddon I will crush you carry come on come on project I want that episode now oh my god I showed out between good and evil yes on project and they're both full of shit and we don't know for sure yet whether or not carry herself is good or evil that's true she is just a

documentary of events I don't know she's like a part of the Galactic Federation or the I guess they would never they would never allow her oh my god this is what happens when you just you have no standards of who you'll talk to just like all right well now my narrative is going down this road Eddie is a fucking huge part of it now oh Eddie is using video game pictures to back up his story what do I do oh shit he's actually on a knocking obviously obviously there's no other

explanation people are so dumb it's so great it really is this is the this is like that no you didn't shoot me I dodged of like a six year old right right that's not lava anymore yeah no no what that is is that's water and now I'm super safe from lava in a world where we spend so much time talking about Alex Jones and things that like really matter this is such a delight this is such a delight to be like any page any pages using fucking Halo that's my life I shoot things on alien

planets all right buddy go to bed go to bed Eddie all right Eddie so you're done good now you're now you're no longer useful so I'm gonna have to call you in an on a knocky he's super useful now as the bad guy right right right but not on the show basically not on the show well I mean maybe I what if they had a reconciliation episode not a showdown episode Kerry in an exorcist yes absolutely perfect oh yeah Kerry Kerry takes get us in the production room Kerry takes him

to see Mark Richards no he has a come to Jesus moment in Vacaville prison because then what would happen is Mark Richards and Eddie Page would wind up switching places they don't they don't have hours of that doesn't matter he my Mark Richards put his mind yeah or or what better what Eddie Page claims he did yes that would be the best I just that would be the best I haven't felt like myself ever since I went to Vacaville I'm starting to have these memories of Raptors

God that'd be so good perfect oh Minerva get on that so many possibilities for this narrative to go in better direction oh yeah it's gonna yeah this this could be a fucking oh that would be oh man because Eddie Page totally has the gifts to pull it off which are a complete lack of shame and flexibility yeah yeah yeah I'll lie about anything man toss me in there I shut down those satellites totally thinking that that would be a fine thing to say me and Kerry I'm ready to play

that's her that's her out her out is on the show he said that he was he shut down these satellites yeah now it turns out he's a liar and full of shit so what I can't she's like well shutting down no of course not then they would point out that she agreed with him on everything she interviewed him so many times yeah short span like like she never does that with guests she's she pushed him to the front of the line and so like the idea that oh it's come out that he's a fucking

definitive bullshit artist that you can't you can't even fucking deny that Kerry's right to shift the goalpost like ah misinformation I like that though I like that she at the very least listen to the most recent episode with Eddie Page on it was like haha I've found you know you're evil she didn't though because she's recording this episode and saying that Eddie got taken off by the CIA and what have you right reality it was the people who work with him we're like

uh-oh we better cut all traces of this we don't want to be involved with this anymore at all it's as the CIA probably CIA yeah so this is how she spends her time where her guest cancels and then she she starts talking a little bit about how she didn't interview with somebody else and wait so her guest is completely canceled we're not not shown up he is not shown up at this point okay I will say that I did an interview with um Ian Trottier is his name and uh and and I I posted

it yesterday the link to his his radio show that I was on and then he tried to post it on YouTube and he got an immediate message saying that that radio show with me was banned in all countries and I get a kick out of that because like how dangerous am I right if uh and then this guy is kind of mainstream ish um so it looks like so it's like that was too much for them they couldn't handle it oh god damn it Dan there's nothing I'm gonna love more than a dog interrupting

a show I don't think that there's a I don't think anyone's banned in all countries I think every country like not every country but a lot of countries are very different standards for what uh it passes for acceptable you know yeah cuz every country has different laws things like that do they yes you know we be sure you know how we go over all the time like the lack of First Amendment in countries not called the United States yeah yeah yeah you know that that's sort of just the

baseline okay go from all right all right I think that what happened here is she didn't interview with this guy and like the tech didn't work out and it glitched or something like that he's trying to be polite or it was a shitty interview and he's trying to be like oh my god I tried to post it got banned yeah you're too dangerous yeah that's something that you would believe as opposed to like look at the tech didn't work out you're like well what can we do it again

yeah that's a good point this is like I can't have you on I'm sorry the law of the world says you can't be on look when even Luxembourg bands you know you gotta stop they don't even I don't even know what they do there it's just such it's just a couple of guys in Luxembourg such shit just garbage so he uploads it to YouTube yep and YouTube says it's been banned in all countries nowhere can anyone see this nowhere

what about SoundCloud no okay what other streaming services that can you twitch it no no um good luck asshole how about Spotify can you put it up on Spotify can put it on gab who gives a shit put it on Mike Adams real dot video whatever fucking bullshit place still exists release it as a podcast why not anyway all that stuff is bullshit so now we find out that Carrie is writing a book who that's not a good but there's trouble in Paradise

and I'm also finding out that apparently my book is like coming in at like 700 pages or something really crazy too long and I don't think that let's see too many subjective clauses okay something just went wrong with my computer there see okay that's not cool okay so anyway I just want to say that let me see if somebody oh it looks like he is showing up he did get my message okay hold on one second so fabulous let's see if we can get him on the show here off air you can

do this off air hello hello hi whoa whoa Terry hi I'm sorry I was waiting for the reply and I wasn't sure if you were going to call her not hi I'm here so it looks like from whatever I can tell Kerry didn't send a reply to him that confirmed this is the time we're doing it right and so he was going about his business and waiting to hear back and she just assumed that she had written inside this is when we're doing it and then went on

air was like I don't know where the fuck he is so he calls in it was mostly it was most likely she sent him a message saying do you want to do it at this time and he was like I mean that would probably work right you say what's best for you I mean you know what all it is is just shoddy lack of confirmation and bad behind the scenes structure which is what you'd expect from this yeah I'm like none of this surprises me in any way but this is definitely one of the things

that she shares with Alex yeah that is for sure Alex like checking his phone on air yeah yeah so now we get to Bruce sees all as he's in he's in the play he's in he's in the mix okay this guy what does he see Dan all okay everything alright I don't even think that he would make that claim I don't want to tell you anything I just want him to tell his story and Kerry is going to give him a little bit of an introduction here that I can distill down to four words

great so it's great to have you here let me just give you like a real brief I've got your introduction here you operate a cellist drawn 1400 HD computerized 14 inch telescope with a 38 inch I don't know if that's a point 38 or 38 inch optical tube with DSLR and adapter at the back 24 megapixel camera 39 10 millimeters of focal length and you've done asteroids planetoids unknown planets meteors planet stars nebulas constellations Orion Andromeda Taurus Virgo Perseus

and boots and many more and you're really wow you're very serious so yeah so he's very serious here's how I would sum up all that you have a telescope dude has a telescope why is he on the show he's got a telescope telescope I've watched some of his videos I've seen the telescope it's a nice looking telescope isn't a good telescope it's not a great telescope it's not a great telescope I mean it's fine it's better than like your your hobbyist might have like it's

bigger than the the one you have as a kid to look up at the stars yeah certainly is it a bigger than that is it a comically oversized telescope like you might find in a cartoon from the 70s no no it's right in the middle I would call it a middle of the road but closer to impressive than not okay it's a fine piece of equipment now I don't know if he has I don't know if he knows exactly what he's doing with it but he's got so so okay so all we've got is a guy who has a telescope that's

not enough to get on project Camelot it is make you know it all right fair enough that is enough to get on project Camelot who created a warp drive twice yeah but he created a warp drive spoiler alert he didn't he says he did did he make a telescope that would actually be a pretty cool thing I would I would actually have listened to an interview where she's like okay cool so how did you make this telescope that would be interesting maybe it would be a how things work or yeah be

great you know like that one of those podcasts not not project Camelot worthy but look Jordan you're right you're right I'm gonna call myself out on it just having a telescope is not enough to get you on the show this guy's got a lot of other things going on the ability to see all he sees all through this telescope you understand more than that that's not all he's gonna break some very serious news in this okay okay so if we're able to bring the small photo keep it the same

way it is but just bring it this wide and exact he's described he's describing zooming enhance the same way you can see it very small without it bending or distorting and then you can see you put it under a microscope more detail you know what I mean so people think that always gonna get close is gonna how come we're not seeing structures we're seeing what we can see as a small photo that I bring bigger zoom and people get concerned they don't understand it's fake and it's

nothing fake it's all real photography and very little filtering night vision colors just to get the green colors because green brings out a lot of the details on celestial objects and I am getting good feedback that people like you other channels that are giving me a good hand but honestly it's really hush hush it's like I don't know it's like I'm not getting out there so that people can see themselves you know what I have it's all raw and it's beautiful what I'm catching

on the moon a whole bunch of movement different UFOs and they're all real oh okay there you don't need to say they're all real if they are all getting because that's really you know a lot of people don't realize that that's actually in my opinion some of the most impressive stuff is when you actually have a craft flying and you're capturing that I've gone to Bruce's YouTube channel and I would say one did you see his telescope yeah it did and then I also watched some of

his videos where he purports to show structures and motion on the moon and I wish I still smoked weed like yeah honestly it would be so fun it would be great because his narration is crazy he's crazy look is he is it good no he doesn't have a terrible voice it's not terrible but no he's like saying that this is a city on the moon and it's just blurry pixels well that's not good it's the same thing we've seen over and over again with like space hucksters let's say you know it's like I

have found proof of X Y and Z thing or like all those UFO guys who you know have this picture and like why is there a string there's like no that's not string like it's that sort of thing yeah he's not cheating it in so much as like those people were creating fake UFOs and like forced perspective and things like that he's cheating in the analysis of it he's showing like a blurry pixel because when you zoom too far yeah of course on a picture that you've taken you you're going to get

like distortion and blurring of pixels right he's like right there you can see which you know city which you know you could solve buddy if you got a better telescope which is why you know that's why those really really big telescopes that we have run by scientists yeah they don't they don't see that stuff no no and anybody who studies astronomy at all would be able to look at his stuff and they have and then like this is this is shit yeah this is what you're doing is just

misinterpreting things that are very well understood by anybody who studied science and studied space yeah but you can't have those people near you now I am saying that anybody who has studied space and science and astronomy would understand these things and I say that because I must I must make clear this guy is not at all what is he do here's his backstory okay this is not this doesn't inspire confidence I was first a janitor that invented a warp drive and now

I've rebranded as Bruce sees all it's close to that but not exactly continue what I want to do is actually get you to talk about how you got into this field and also your background and photography how you kind of got that all happening well I absolutely I started I've always been a fanatic about nature photography and as much animals as the trees and what blending in buildings and certain angles I like I like playing with angles do you so I used to take a lot of shots even did a little

bit of photography taking photos of people even a couple of children and I was getting really good at it you know why like that I don't know even a couple of children are notoriously hard to really don't like the way he said that no it doesn't just not inspire confidence very weird it's a weird way to phrase it yeah it's almost like I am upset at my stomach it's almost level of the time it remained a hobby because of course I live with my son and you know I pay the house pay the

bills so I had to work at the bus station and I'm still working there so it's a regular job but I started taking photos and then I at one point to make a long story short to jump into the astrophotography after about five six seven years of just really did being a hobby taking nature photos really nice photography never sold any really but then I start taking the moon and I got one star all I can say is that it was towards the constellation of Draco because you know people say

where exactly is a star I never give an indication honestly I don't know that's a bad sign that's not good you should really know where a star is also you said it like you don't know where any star is if you're if you're taking pictures where you're purporting to show like life in space and structures and stuff like that it behooves you to be like here's where it is you guys go confirm for yourself yeah it seems like maybe the most important piece also also even

in his backstory he's like I know I would put things in angles to make it look like I like to play with that I like to manipulate photographs so you see what I want you to see which is it's not a I mean that's fine with like artistic photography exactly that's perfect for a photography not great when you're trying to prove aliens no usually bad seems like a weird thing to bring up when you're describing your backstory that's like purportedly supposed to reinforce

that like I have hard evidence of X Y or Z like my backstory involves manipulating angles for artistic benefit blah blah blah I work at a bus station one time I took some pictures of even a few kids what hold on at the at the bus station probably in the quite frankly I would not be surprised what are you doing nothing wrong with working at a bus station dude it leads me to believe that he does not have a degree in astrophysics you don't think so I think he might have brought that up I think

that might have been instead of it being I work at a bus station and as a hobby I started taking pictures of space but I don't know where I was taking pictures I don't fucking idea but I found aliens. I like his description of his life about five six years of doing this and then I had a breakthrough what about the moon no this is this is never ever taking a picture of the moon before on plowed ground here to dig into yeah I mean that's

crazy that's crazy levels of bullshit so I would I mean right there is enough to be like no sir yeah no I will listen I will listen to someone who has studied this because at very least they know where the star is preemptive preemptive question I'm sure that it will be answered by the end of the episode but I want to to get this from you first. Does he believe what he's saying or is he scamming is he on where is he on our stupid evil continuum I would say both

but probably closer to scamming because he has a go fund me page okay trying to get people to buy him more equipment yeah he's raised like eighty five hundred dollars on there or something like that really yeah so damn I mean I don't know how lucrative of a scam that is but I think I think it's probably like the nascent stages of like a scam but I would be I would be hard pressed to say that I don't think he also kind of believes it yeah but it's easy to believe things when

you don't understand things like when you don't understand how space works you don't understand what you're looking at it's really easy to assume oh that blurring of pixels looks a lot like a building it must be a building yeah when there's a really easy explanation if you just talk to anybody who like a you know who study like any astronomer would be like or any photography expert would be able to explain to you the blurring and the warping of pixels that happens when you zoom

too far or just a telescope manufacturer yeah any of these people would be able to explain it away pretty quick right right so Bruce doesn't know where stars are and then it from there it gets a little bit worse in terms of the assumptions that he's making because you know people say where exactly is a star I never give an indication honestly I don't know I'm gonna go with pointing at Orion it doesn't mean the star is in Orion it could be very close to Earth and tiny or it

could be very far away and huge and very small so uh-oh oh no it could be a couple of blocks away it could be two billion light years in the past oh who knows I'll tell you who knows astronomers that's not hard to figure out that's excuse me that is one of the very basic it's probably something you should really know right off the bat yeah yeah they have equations and Bruce sees all explain gravidic lensing if you could he sees all except textbooks it's hard though it's

hard you know they are really boring it's very boring it's really boring to read a bunch of textbooks it's much more fun to be like there's a fucking city up there and I know it I'm the only one who knows and no one's listening to me right me money right it's very easy to do that much more gratifying than say I don't know studying for four years to get a degree and then dedicating your life to working at a like a large telescope and oh my god isn't that beetle juice yeah I don't

fucking know yeah you know that's not the path I went down but many people have it's always it's always fascinating to me these these people who are essentially hard sci-fi geeks but they would bully hard sci-fi exactly exactly but they but they believe it's true yeah and how hard they struggle to avoid learning anything about what it is they're talking about that's why they're soft sci-fi geeks okay they're not into like the the like the strict adherence to rule right right

they're really into just the fanciful I imagine that this is what this is yeah for it is they're not Neil deGrasse Tyson being like well you know in the up that put that house wouldn't have flown like yeah yeah this guy I'll be honest he's really close to the border of the like we won't talk about them on the show you know that that sort of project Camelot line of like is this person okay oh yeah that sort of thing very close to the line but he's on the right side of it for us to talk

about okay good I don't think that he's so mentally unwell it'd be fun if you were just like and he's on the other side of it end of episode no no no no so he he he he he's concerned about saying where a star is because it might be big and close to earth or small and far or vice versa whatever he really did he really did a great job of explaining perspective though yes which is something a photographer would do so now hold on that clip isn't done it gets weirder often I'll just

say I'm pointing there or I'm pointing there and I got something on the start some surface structures I have the video and have to send it to you on a star every week talk about it again I'm sure we will and very different to the moon surface and there is stars yes I'm so on me that it was constructed it does look chiseled and again the ancient structures that we see here on earth the way they talk about the Mayans etc the way the Egyptians could have chiseled in the rock and many

different ancient civilizations intrigues me finding that on another planet something that looks like just chiseled out surface in certain areas it was that I started taking photos of the moon there is literally no way to no matter what kind of zoom this guy's got that you could find something that looks chiseled out unless it was like what you can see well it could be really far away and chiseled out or it could actually be really close and small and chiseled out Jordan Jordan Jordan

wait did he say that there was the idea he said there was a surface structure on a star yes okay that these say a lot of shit that's not a good thing to say the idea that you could see a structure and determine the masonry of it from his satellite or his telescope it's kaka made me bullshit yeah I implore anyone to go watch any of his videos the idea that he could tell about the sort of technique of the building it's all in his imagination he's just making all that he got an

Egyptologist to explain to him about how pyramids were built and there he is his Egyptologist okay fair enough she's a amateur Egyptologist gotcha so dude this this is this is wild stuff he also says that like there's lush vegetation on the moon okay there's a lot of colors all right and one of the things that people need to understand is that like oftentimes when you take pictures from space of the moon they're much grayer but if you take a picture of the moon

from planet Earth oftentimes you'll see a little bit of coloration to it you'll see there's like a little bit more strict whiteness or even some yellowing that sort of phenomenon and the reason for that is Earth's atmosphere I don't understand the same way so are you telling me that taking a picture through Earth's atmosphere looks different than taking a picture from like the Hubble telescope which is outside of her thing go baby I don't understand how that could

affect the photography at all and what if it's just really really close in Earth's atmosphere right but it's actually very small and he's also said that he likes to tint things green because it brings out maybe you just did that and you forgot that's why you think there's vegetation vegetation place where there's no air tinted green there is air all right now there's not a small amount of air not enough to obey I mean not enough for your human based lush vegetation or whatever

his definition is so now I want to say that I don't think that his grasp on astronomy is strong not great I would say that the indication of I don't know how far away this thing is it could be huge and far small and close that leads me to believe that he's not wrestled with the actual work but this next clip leads me to believe that this guy old man he is into cutting corners when it comes to physics. Can you do you have any idea how big the craft are for example

dimension you know the dimensions of the craft and then the structures can you even is there even any way to estimate that sure well I'll tell you how I did it the way I talk about all the information in the sizes maybe seems silly but it seems to me the most silly logical way to confirm something not true the eye like just the naked eye I compared to the size of the craters since I've taken so many shots the UFO itself I'll pick a very small crater in any frame that I will find the

small UFO and compare that size to 30 kilometer crater so if if I can fit four or five UFOs in a 30 kilometer crater right off the bat we know for a fact that it is at least a mile we can know that way what it's at least a mile and that's often what I'll say hold on because some of them do seem to be three to four miles and carry their different size excuse me sir summer cigar shape so so who cares excuse me sir how many kilometers are in a mile well he is in Canada I believe so you

might be on the he's I think he does wrestle through the kilometer to mile conversion to try and help carry out throughout the episode okay now the first problem that I would say with this technique of judging with craters is the exact same thing he's already brought up what if that's how are you judging sizes of the crater by the size of the pixel Dan it's obvious it's obvious that doesn't work no it makes perfect sense perspective is still a problem no pixels same size

doesn't work fits in one crater fits in every crater Dan also I don't trust him to use like to know how big one of these craters is first of all yeah exactly that's a problem exactly how is he estimating the distance of that it just I think he just like it's a fucking three mile spaceship buddy enjoy cool I mean this is this is tragically flawed thinking like even legitimately I bet you could Google how large certain craters on the moon are and people have a good you can yeah

they've measured it and then you could just look and see if that was the crater that you're looking at so now here here's where things get real bad for Bruce is that if he did do that and take those measurements yeah right and we just for fun assume that he does have spaceships on tape sure right you have all of that and he does take that you know whatever measurement he's made of the spaceship and put it into the put it into the crater that he has the measurement of that

perspective problem is still a problem he can't confirm where that spaceship was and there unless it's on the ground unless it's not a spaceship as much as it is a dune buggy you can't do this that you can't do that because even if it's a mile off the ground let's say it's going to completely fuck up your measurements your equations are bunk quite literally it could be in the exact middle distance between where the earth is and where the moon is and it would look to you taking a

picture as though it might have been actually on the moon at the time it's three miles according to that but because it's halfway between the earth and the moon it's actually only I don't know 60 feet like it's a pleasure yacht or something like that. Is it a pleasure yacht? It's a nice little tool in spacecraft. It's like what he was doing in NAMM. I mean look here's the deal I watch these videos and they're shit they're absolute shit I don't need to get into why other

than to say but what's more important is just the thinking that we're seeing demonstrated the lack of him even like realizing huh that could be a problem for my equations the idea that the supposed UFO isn't on the ground shit how am I going to get around that the fact that he's just like oh no it's three miles. Well you saw a structure on the on a star you have to assume everything is grounded sure that makes sense yeah and no one knows where that might have been it could look

I'm not going to point to where a star is it could be anywhere yeah everybody knows that stars are everywhere always. I don't understand I will never I suppose maybe I do I don't understand that that knee-jerk reaction so many people have to anybody who spent their entire life studying stuff like just like with the anti-vaccine people like there are people who started out as like 9 year olds literally fascinated by all this stuff they go through school they're they're brilliant

then they go to college they study all of this stuff they're brilliant and then they spend the next 20 to 30 years of their life building these vaccines in order to save lives and there are a bunch of people who are just like nah fuck you you don't know a goddamn thing like what are you doing yeah it's not like they're doing it for for for fame it's a really boring thing to do like the human instinct that you have to like want to make your mark on shit is not going to be satisfied by by

that it's just like they're trying to do well they love well here's another interesting parallel between the worlds of alex jones and the worlds of project camel because the example that you brought up the vaccines and anti-vax people it's the it is very similar thinking that these people have with space shit in as much as they don't look at it that way they don't look at it as someone has dedicated their life to studying this stuff and they know more than me just because

I am angry and want to you know scam people make a little buck out of this they don't look at it that way they look at it like these people got in with probably good intentions but then they became sucked into the nefarious globalist system so like with the vaccine people it's like oh yeah they became corrupted by big pharma yeah and you know that took over you know what they were about yeah and with this it's like oh NASA is you know being all all shitty with

this and NASA is doing this big cover up and now they're a part of it yeah but that doesn't that just doesn't track if you've ever studied human behavior of any kind that doesn't make sense no no but it does make sense if you're looking for a convenient easy way to explain some the non-explainable right or the non-explainable being why is everyone disagreeing with me yeah something like that you know it's just such a bummer that you can't like these people

cannot experience just a certain level of trust in other human beings unless those like it's not possible unless those people implicitly agree with whatever worldview they're exactly and then that's why Kerry gets sucked in by people like Eddie Page right is because she trusts him because he reinforces the worldview that she's already putting out which Alex gets screwed over by guests all the time Robert David Steele on because he was reinforcing Alex's worldview

until he came on and said that there are children being kept to slaves on a moon base he got burned Bruce has photograph some of those children but it's but even that speaks to the general idea that the only person that they can ever truly trust is themselves because the only people they'll believe are people who are extensions exactly 100% yeah that's such a bummer man you know they'll like engage with the rest of the human race we're we're not bad no we'll have a lot of

shit but yeah we're like we're like we're good guys at the same time even if this guy was putting this stuff out into the world like he had this YouTube channel is like I believe that I found video of bases on the moon I believe that these are structures but at the same time I could be wrong and you know I just want to put this out there and start a conversation or something like that I wouldn't laugh at him no I wouldn't treat him like a dick I would be like well at least you're open

to the possibility that you know this what you're seeing isn't what you think it is this certainty is what makes it funny right because the certainty implies you're trying to pull fast well isn't that something that I mean to a certain extent you and I can only experience very briefly do you know what I mean like you and I are both speak for yourself how dare you I don't I don't know what point you're trying to make so I can't agree with you I mean perhaps the largest difference

that we have with so many of these people is that you and I are a default at the doubt position yeah like our position is like there's no way that my first reaction or even my second reaction is the correct one right I need to make sure and double check and double check and double check case and these people don't have that at all that's why this guy will maybe make eighty five hundred dollars and ago fund me but no one will know who he is in a couple years or whatever his

flash in the pan two years from now we'd be still working at that bus station ouch taking pictures of the moon and children and boy I hope he's not such a weird way of putting it I can't I can't get that out of my head it's very weird and I hope he stops taking pictures of children because this next clip scares me a little bit no what I'm trying to figure out is how much harassment do you get you know in terms of what you're doing as much as I give carry on or do they harass you so far

I'm going to be very honest with you I can tell you I've been harassed by men in black by by so and so it's not true it's actual movie I did get real quick he said I I need to start that back a little bit because I listen to this already and I can't quite figure out if he is actually saying that he's been harassed by the men in black or if he's saying the idea that I've been harassed by the men in black isn't true I can't tell I'd see I heard very closely I heard that he has been harassed

by I think that is what he's a movie men in black sure Vincent D'Onofrio is a little bit upsetting but how dare you Vincent D'Onofrio was the hero of that film listen I want to I want you to track this as closely as I am because I'm not sure what he's alleging okay what you're doing are you do they leave you alone or do they harass you so far I'm going to be very honest with you I can tell you I've been harassed by men in black yeah it's not true I got a lot of trolls I did he's saying I could tell

you that I've been harassed by the men in black but it's not true so that way that's what he's saying yes that's that's what he said there the phrasing of it through me the first time because if you say to be very honest I could tell you that I've been harassed by the men in black it's to suggest to be very honest comma I could tell you exactly yeah yeah yeah the phrasing is a little bit complicated yeah especially for a project Camelot guest yeah okay I'm okay with what he's

saying there because he's saying I could lie to you and say that it was the men in black really I've just had some trolls I could tell you that I'm upset at my stomach but indeed my stomach is just upset right get big death threats but honestly they seemed really more nasty and then victim and try to scare me and honest honestly I always respond to something worse like well if you're gonna break my legs I'm gonna do something worse to you and I'll play with them or

a lot to see how they react you know because honestly people that are doing this for real I've seen some stories and they say six words and they obtain you they they know what to tell you usually they know what to tell you to volcano I don't know what those six words are maybe I'm going to kill you I am going to I am going to kill you that's six right I don't know what the others but the six words and then they obtain you is very weird I don't know what he's talking about freaks me the

fuck out also the idea that he's like a if I think you're threatening me I'm gonna threaten you double what's one of the what's one of the bad impulse what's one of the acrostics for the solar system you know like my very I don't want to say mine the mnemonic device you mean yeah yeah from childhood mine was my very erotic monkey Jack sperm under nasty pillows see there you go yeah now that's why they would cross stick that's a mnemonic right across I don't

think so I believe it is I don't know because you could put them never mind the point being the reason that they know to tell you only six words is because there are really six planets only six planets right but that's why they can tell you those six words in code dude it's like D12 there's only six like D12 there's six members but each has an alter ego making the 12 the dirt okay there you go there's 12 planets including a team on the planet yeah so there's 12 planets

but it's actually that's why not it's only six planets but each has an alter ego planet so Jordan I don't like the idea that he's saying that people threaten me I'm gonna threaten them back because we know from looking at these personality types are very stable and they have no issues later on oftentimes they feel like they're being threatened when they're not right and they may respond to critiques as threats which is why I would like to bring everyone's

attention to a website called flat earth lunacy.com which is a website that takes people who make flat earth arguments and breaks down why it's a load of bullshit yeah there's a lot of other astronomy related stuff on there and they did a little bit of looking into Bruce sees all right and they posted some very critical things about his his his work I really believe that Bruce sees all could be a name it's like I really have a I really have a hard time dealing with Bruce sees all

as a name I want it to be sees all like it's a it's a it's got a flare to it's not though I like it I am Jordan says all from now on. So he got wind of the fact they had made this page that was critiquing his work and he sent them an email that is a little aggressive oh no quote you like posting my stuff huh you'll have this nice little note to add to your childish website. Everyone knows that you're a jealous YouTube period creator

that has no education whatsoever lol l you guys want to be the top and it ain't about being the top it's about exposing what is truth your part of the lie oh by the way every time there's a your it's why oh you are that's petty of me but whatever. Hey you think you're educated your I owe you are you're the lie my next video will send a flood of haters I have more than you 100 views a day here lol l what's a matter the website ain't working for you.

Did you say what's a matter yeah what's a matter yeah what's a matter what's a matter not what's the matter what's a matter with what's a matter with you yeah you should be all over the news but sadly lol l this is a weak w e k and website for your family it appears these posts against me prove to me that I have stirred up a few brainless wonders to the reality of it all the fact that everything you said about me was a lie therefore this post will be taken down my business will

not be attacked by you you will have brought many troubles your way promise I will be watching what you. It's post but it's spelled P open bracket OTS so that's not great P open bracket OTS all right I'm sure it was supposed to be post yeah better take this shit down or you will hear from Mike buddy Mike ain't so friendly. Wait where did Mike come into all of this third act reveal so Mike is an enforcer for this guy probably a co-worker at the

bus station there's this guy named Mike who's gonna fuck people up does his dirty work all right all right yeah I didn't realize he was running that kind of operation so they didn't threaten him and that's the kind of response that he gives out when someone critiques the possibility that he's not doing due diligence with his astronomy assumptions that he's making so when I hear that I hear okay this guy's this guy's a little bit aggressive little aggro people who question the

intelligence of people debunking them using facts often reveal via their questioning yeah that they are not themselves they don't have a good grasp yeah yeah you guys think you're so smart and you misspell everything and throw brackets in there in the wrong place is like guy it's like hey I get it that you're angry but come on do a little double check and a little spell check you're writing an email you got time it's not like you're on the phone but you know what to be

it also is an indication of lack of trust in your own position yeah like that that sort of behavior to me really indicates that like Bruce himself knows that what he's putting out as thin yeah you know and so he's just like better attack this guy right otherwise I'm not going to be able to stand on my merits that oh that is actually just a weird distorted pixel right that that I'm pretending as a city so I don't I'm worried about this guy and I hope he fucking attacks us you know

isn't it weird like in all honesty what is the difference what is the difference between that guy and like the daily caller it's just proofreading yeah like the daily caller has all of those same insults towards people that disagree with them but they can just proofread but for some reason a huge section of the population is fine with it but we also don't know if this guy is really into white shit or anything I don't really probably I don't really know his business in terms of

that and they don't get into it unlike Eddie yeah anyway Eddie will find a way yeah that's that's the one the one lesson welcome Eddie will find a way Eddie will find a way chaos theory so in this next clip Carrie has a very hard-hitting question for Bruce and that is has he ever taken pictures of aliens first of all I want to understand whether you think that you have ever photographed beings

that's an interesting question a very interesting question and I'll tell you yes but I think it could be a possibility but I don't think that people are understanding what I mean by beings I'm not I'm not seeing right now anything with head shoulders and legs like us I'm seeing common ways to say that have movements that seem to be not like the wind that's moving them or that not debris it looks like they're moving themselves and it looks like they're contracting Dan is there

wind on the moon extracting no he is photographed the glow cloud photograph all hail the glow cloud Dan first off that's what he's welcome to Night Vale yeah I got bad news there there is not a wind in the moon but all hail there is an interesting phenomenon of shadows oh yeah that end up being caught in space yeah and also like we talked about with the coloration of things that you see in space often being affected by you

know just the earth's atmosphere one of the things you have to take into consideration is even if you're using a telescope you can't see through clouds you know you can't see no you don't you don't need to worry about it so oftentimes you can look at the telescope you can you can end up seeing footage of something that appears to have clouds on the moon or something like that and it might be just like very high serious crowds like up really high in the I don't know troposphere

or whatever I don't remember the exact the the levels of theirs yeah yeah yeah so like that that sort of thing to me once you get past heaven I don't really remember the the spheres the end like the fact that he's saying what I have what I have ended up taking pictures of is you know clouds that are alive that leads me to believe that he took pictures of clouds he has he's accidentally captured something like high level serious clouds because serious are the wispy ones yeah that sort of

thing yeah he's he's captured that and is misunderstanding the the nature of his telescope that's kind of what I'm guessing he made the classic rookie mistake of a guy with a telescope which is that you can only see the space you can only see see space when it's night right yeah that's their thing to if you watch his video that you'll see like things that appear to be lights and stuff like that it's so like his neighbor's place no but it is like reflections you know it's

not it's not like you're not actually seeing like a luminescent bulb on the moon or something like that which by the way how fucking crazy would that be if that's what you could see from your telescope that would be crazy you're looking at the moon and you see someone like turn on their porch light like that's crazy well they can't tell you where the stars are Dan there's no point towards them it could be his neighbor's place there's no fucking chance of you no matter how powerful a telescope

that you have that you could look at the moon and see a light on it it would have to be the biggest in order for it to be visible to your telescope so the reality is that when he sees like things that appear to be lights it might be a piece of like space dust or something like that that's reflecting light or any number of possible explanations I'm not an astronomer myself so I don't know all of them but I know there are plenty of them like I've seen this be debunked a number of times in

the classic pale blue dot photograph you see a lot of shit up there not not living people though all those lights living oh well obviously but all glow coat all glow clouds are alive also Florence Hurricane Florence yeah glow cloud glow cloud glow cloud I didn't have the that's the problem with North Carolina in South Carolina they never hailed the glow cloud I didn't have the nerve to watch Kerry's two part interview about that hurricane no not gonna guessing it involves weather weapons

yeah or something it is I decided to pass I'm out I'm out on that one hard thanks on that no thanks so a lot of people's lives are really fucked up for a long time because of this as we're recording this still not over no so giant pollution is now running rampant in the Duke energy in this next clip Jordan how do I how do I introduce this clip I don't remember what it says but I know it's dumb he's just that's a good introduction to just about any project Camelot clip I guess

I guess what I would say is he's trying to express that again he seems fascinated by the idea of zoom like that zoom is a thing that happens yeah you can embiggen things the ability to zoom on a camera seems like almost witchcraft to him the more I zoom in yeah the more I zoom in the more I see what people are talking about the hologram I could see that and it's scary the way I like you say ends meet sometimes it looks like you're looking at a corner of a screen or something

angles move and you wonder what that's going on in it unfortunately always passes off that it's the telescope right or people oh there's a bug on your lens or at 3,000 mil at 4,000 millimeters carry you'll never see a mosquito on my lens you will never see a mosquito like this in the window of my lens impossible because the mosquito would be this stretched out and it would be a blur and it would be a blur you wouldn't see you're arguing against the wrong

criticism buddy you know like that's not that's not a legitimate criticism I don't think anyone's giving him it's just because that would be very obvious to tell like you definitely see yeah usually you can see bugs up on the lens yeah yeah yeah so I don't know man yeah the more you zoom the more you do see I'm not sure exactly what point you're trying to make with the hologram business but I do know that some of these other people like a John Lear some of these other weirdos in

the secret space carry Cassidy kind of world they do speculate that there's like a hologram that's going on that doesn't allow you to see what's actually going on on the moon and so okay I think that's what he's sort of hearkening to I thought it was I thought it was more like if you zoom in far enough on any lens you can see that the entire universe is a hologram now that's interesting that might be what he's talking about to I don't know who you just have to you and I are left

here guessing it exactly I can tell you from listening to this episode I don't know I can't I can't answer that question for you like I don't have more prior context that's going to help fair enough but I can't tell you that this at a certain point became an incredibly boring episode oh of course this this was one of the rare times that I almost fell asleep well really yeah I was just like I'm so interested in just the kernel of it yeah but then the fact that the episode is an hour and

a half that seems long long stretches where it's just like that's a long time for an episode interview interviewing a guy with a telescope he does have a telescope though I can confirm that that's sure so you might be asking yourself this dude worked at a bus station does work at a bus station into photography likes to cheat angles and it's like how did he get into this game you know we're not really entirely sure we know that he said he started taking pictures of a star that

he has no idea where it is and a few children and a few children but it's not entirely sure like what's his what's his sort of story in the secret space business yeah so so how long have you been doing this this is my second year completed on August if I'm not mistaken the 16th I think I complete that couldn't even get you an associate's degree he is my second year of research I had never done this before I was very I'm very interested in the new world order oh no

what was going on and how it was involved with the government that was really scary one for me but then the secret projects came afterwards so everything I'm researching now is only from what I'm finding if I find UFOs of course I'm going to research space programs now I did everything backwards so I'm researching in depth a lot of the space programs and it's scary because I'm finding a lot of the stuff of what's in the space programs and maybe there's

some similarities you know maybe it could be it could be that I'm finding some far away evidence of a sign of maybe the space programs that's right that's right yep so I started looking thing looking at things I don't understand and then I went to the people who do understand them and I was like that can't be right so then I went to the people who who don't understand them at all and I decided that the secret secret space program is real but that makes

sense your responses so right on in terms of like when you hear him be like you know this is I started to get into the Illuminati and God all right all right okay we were we were always going to get there sooner or later I appreciate you being forthcoming with that information but so we got one more clip of this dude Bruce sees all and I see is all Bruce is Ali I have that's fun I have indicated a couple things that lead me to believe that this guy is not up and up in terms

of like space science how so well I mean perspective is the biggest provide eight more examples I'll refer you to eight of his videos about that but this next clip is deeply deeply troubling on just like I understanding reality kind of basis this actually may be a Mike down clip just because not because it's so shocking because I really want you to understand what he's saying. Well if there have been some really odd things going on with the moon and I guess it also

has to do with maybe the axis that were we're shifting the axis here on earth because the moon does not appear to be in the same place that it used to be. Exactly and is it one of us shifting not I'm wondering we're both maybe maybe the moon hasn't moved this is just an assumption hypothetically maybe the moon hasn't moved and earth is rocking back and we're going oh look at the moon leaving you know or we're both moving or maybe we're not moving and the universe around

us is going like this it's scary we just know it's very about the unbalancement me I have that in my head. It's like everything's spinning around spinning around spinning around you don't have any and it spins it will spin for almost a minute but just before it stops it starts going really really really fast and I often say to myself that's where at that point in the universe maybe that we're at that fast wobble everything's speeding up and we're just on the tilt everything

is about to go like turn or shift or people ask me is the whole ship going to be in a day I don't think so it's probably maybe 20 years 10 years because we've been seeing it so long me for maybe 1015 years maybe I'm wrong. Oh boy. Oh boy. When did you learn that the universe was moving? When did you learn first the earth was moving second moon was moving around the earth making them both move simultaneously

but at different rates of speed and patterns both of them also orbiting the sun the sun itself which orbits around the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy the galaxy itself which is expanding as part of the universe that is expanding at an exponential exponential rate that we can't really understand that we're explaining away with dark matter which might as well just be saying like magic or whatever it the universe is always moving it's moving why is that a

question that he's asking why is he high as shit being like what if the universe is moving Dan what is going on here to answer your question I think it was sophomore year of college because I had a prerequisite should have been sooner than that and just wasn't something they really should have been sooner than that I had the vague I had the broad strokes I want to say I learned that the universe was just moving and not just chilling out like no seven or eight years ago I was

keenly aware of that in terms of the like sort of the the science of it I got a little bit of the basics in a prerequisite physics class that I had to take with a guy who I think is named Dr. Mushroom but I'm not entirely sure my professor had a name that sounded a lot like Dr. Mushroom Dr. Bruce Mushroom Zall I did not care to find out what his real name is but I'm sure it's like mushroom or something like that right it tickled me to know that it was Dr. Mushroom is teaching me

about space yeah that's that sounds fun so look dude dude dude beyond the reality of stuff but did he just did he really just ask the question maybe the universe is moving you have to ask yourself what is the dichotomy that's being presented by Kerry and Bruce and what it is is Kerry is saying the moon is moved now if that were the case disaster the tides would be completely devastated like we it would be much worse than what we're seeing no it would be far worse if the moon had

not moved oh yeah that would be way worse the moon is absolutely moving time out Jordan time out because the moon not moving is the equivalent of the moon moving because the moon moving in her what she's saying is the moon is moving in a way that is not what we would expect it to be okay you know what I'm saying all right it's not where we would expect it to be based on our calculations and and all that I feel like his response is more similar to the moon is not

moving yes yes yes but that's that's why I'm saying the dichotomy okay the other version is everything but the moon is moving which is equally troubling and would have devastating consequences for the solar system it would be a complete fuck all that everything would be screwed if either of these possibilities that they're suggesting were the case we'd fucking know it by now for sure the confidence that it takes to fly in the face of every brilliant group of people

who have ever studied this ever that's really astonishing especially when you have no education and you work at a bus station yeah yeah like the idea that you have a telescope and you're like I've just proven all scientists yeah like calm down man yeah you you really shouldn't be the equal of like plenty the elder 4000 years after plenty the elder you know it's not it's not a good look yeah so this is where we leave Bruce and he goes and sparks up another bowl or whatever and

gets gets real introspective what if the universe is moving man right what if it's not the weed that's burning but I am the one that all right so he leaves and then we get a fucking unfortunate post script from Kerry because she doesn't end the episode why doesn't she end the episode I don't know exactly I think maybe because she felt good about starting the episode without a guest and maybe she's like hey maybe I'll vamp a little bit here right right right right and

unfortunately she reveals that things are not all is not well in Camelot I am trying to raise money to go see Captain Mark Richards again and do an interview and this is a great time for me to do that interview because so much is happening and I want to run a lot of Eddie's information by him see how he sees it and see what he's up to and what he understands about what's coming I'll tell you what Mark's up to he's in prison down the pike in the future here on Planet

Earth from his perspective from the yeah totally totally totally but only because of the Raptors also please put some money in my commissary Raptors who he's in touch with as well so that's a very worthwhile enterprise if you can donate to Project Camelot you just go to my website project camelot.tv and click on the donate button and then it gives you several ways to donate and if you just want to send money to my email address you can do it that way look I'm not mad at her for

asking for money to support the work that she does it would be very hypocritical of us no totally and I think that that is the new I think that's the model that should be successful and all of us should either that are universal basic income no I think that's another part of it too but I I do think even with universal basic income which should absolutely and everyone should have the right to housing but yeah and we should abolish prisons but yeah all of that aside I do

think that if a successful model for entertainment and that sort of thing is do you like this thing give them a couple bucks in a subscription format that allows them to be able to create the thing that you like which is what they like to do I don't think there's anything wrong with that I sincerely don't and I even though I think Harry is stupid as shit and unfortunately pushing a lot of really dangerous stuff into the world whether it's Eddie Page saying that racism is

totally cool or a lot of these people who are hypothetical aliens being weirdly into Russia also happens or just like sort of dangerous flippancy and anti science views yeah those sorts of things I hate it but I still think I'm not gonna be mad at her for being like if you like what I do please support it I am gonna say hey what is it cost to go visit someone in prison I really was thinking that exact same thing like wait why are you trying to raise money to go hey you can you

have enough money to book a flight it doesn't take it doesn't take a flight she lives in California he's in Vacaville prison she can drive there wait where does she live she lives in California I don't know LA I don't know exactly where but she can drive like a like at most I've driven down the California right at most like four or five hours at most yes yeah maybe it cost something to have a hotel get a fucking motel six sixty bucks for the night or whatever you know

they don't carry is not staying in a motel six they're run by Raptor well then that's on her you know I'm saying no I mean she doesn't want to be a CIA Raptor doubt of existence Dan the way she's framing it is gross because if it is like hey if you want me to go and do this as a bonus you can support that that kind of feels better but the idea of like I need money to do this yeah is gross because it it doesn't cost anything it doesn't cost much cost to tank a gas yeah and

maybe a cheap hotel room yeah it's a guy in prison that's free hey now on the other hand no no no the other hand is this yeah I think that there's a possibility that mark is charging her to do interviews I don't disagree with you there's a chance that she needs money because interviewing him isn't free she needs to put something in his commissary in order for him to agree to do an interview so maybe there is a there is like a fee she's not talking about yeah but that can't be

legal it's absolutely legal I mean it should be legal but it like what could he be charging that would need her to like what do you mean like what is he charged $500 in his commissary or something like that that would be very easy to do if you're in prison it's a it's a kind it's a version of extortion that people in prison can do I did not know that oh absolutely I know you can put it in the commissary I know that I apologize for not having enough friends in prison

dude there's this whole there's like a whole thing in prison have some friends in prison but not ones that I visit there I mean in prison one of the things that people do is extort other other prisoners to get them to get their loved ones to put money in their commissary right with the threat that they will hurt them if they don't do it well of course that that's a thriving economy within prisons well capitalism is great yeah

there's a there's an inner there's a documentary that Louie Thoreau did I believe it was about saying Quinton he went and he was talking to all these yeah there's this one terrifying prisoner that I still think about very frequently very half that documentary it's terrifying there's this guy and he explains that like the prison mentality for him and everyone he knows is God they they call it God boss that's the game ain't based on sympathy

which is the idea that like I will extort you I will do everything I don't give a shit about your humanity sympathy doesn't come into this so I don't necessarily think that Mark Richards is you know shaking down people or anything like that but he's got a fish on the line here yeah carry is his fish in terms of being able to be like I will tell you more about the secret space program if you give me money right because I need that to do all my I need to get toilet paper

whatever you know there's a specific way to at the same time it's also a way to the contraband and cash and all that stuff in prison yeah no I think that that clip to me is indicating that there might be more going on here than than is which somehow makes of all people Mark Richards the only rational actor in this entire situation well yeah I mean it's horrible but yeah yeah he's the only one who whose actions make sense it kind of it kind

of puts things in like a more reasonable frame you know what is he doing oh he's extorting yeah we've we've often said that he was just like he's a bored dude in prison but it makes way more sense for him to be like yeah I'll do an interview where I'll say all kinds of crazy shit to you for a grand yeah yeah I could see that very easily yeah that makes perfect so that clip kind of brought that thought into my mind which is which is interesting yeah it's certainly it's certainly

in line with a lot of these things that were starting to find out about the guests on Jim Baker show they come on with the understanding that they're going to sell Jim Baker 5000 books exactly he's going to sell them yeah and I believe that there's certain arrangements like that with Alex Jones although I can't prove that I do think that there are similar things going on with Alex's like consignment deals that he has with guests yeah so I think that there is a much more

nuanced economy behind these programs than we really realize now unfortunately well the reason that we don't really understand these economies is because we don't do them no like we would be bad at it terrible oh yeah and also all of these people are liars so right right right they all hide what they're actually doing of course for the interest interest of putting on a good public face that would be that would be fun if we did that and then the first thing we say to like

anybody that we interview is just like hey we bought 5000 of this guy's book we hope you guys buy it we're going to mark it up in order to get our cut of the profits sure anyways let's begin the interview and the guy's like you aren't supposed to do that part that's why I had to cut out 10 minutes at the beginning of that Mike Kaplan interview Mike we're going to sell your seat that did not sure yeah so look it gets worse because Kerry goes on to say something else that leads me

to believe that again all is not well in Camelot basically we just you know need money to operate I wasn't able to pay my webmaster last week we've been actually really down and out financially because you know I would I didn't make some the money I was supposed to make over the summer so I laid out a bunch of money on my credit cards to travel and so and so forth so you can help out you know even a little bit helps and that would be appreciated Kerry's falling into debt

Kerry Kerry Kerry do you remember when you got scammed by that guy to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars tens of thousands I think tens of thousands of dollars yeah and then John David Morton then you didn't even blame him no he was he was on the up and up there wasn't a but it wasn't his fault god damn it Kerry this is what you got I don't want to I don't want to be the guy who says you got this coming but you know this coming and you know that money that she

didn't have this summer you know why because you didn't pay her taxes last year of course you didn't do you remember that she was posting about how she needed a bunch of money because she owed back taxes I did not remember that yeah that happened Jesus after tax season what a year so like a lot of I mean it's tragic I feel bad about it but this is this was this all makes sense and now she is advertising a trip to Egypt though she will take people and show them around Egypt

$3,550 for this trip on around Egypt flight not included oh well the tickets to get to Egypt are pretty expensive damn right right that's like I don't know for a flight that you're not in a dog cage under the belly of the plane that's like 7800 bucks flight not included $3,500 at least and you also have to pay for meals other than breakfast but the breakfast is covered because she's assuming that you'll be in a hotel and they'll have a continental breakfast you got

to pay for your other meals it's basically just like you don't cover your hotel I think it's unclear from the like I read the like itinerary and what's covered what's not it's kind of unclear I'm not entirely sure let's just call it amenities not include a four day five star cruise oh that's included that is nice so there's that I like a four day five star cruise right that might be worth $3,500 probably I don't fucking doubt it I don't know anyway this is this is bad I

feel bad for her but I also don't because man it's fascinating where the the people that we regularly cover broke Alex and Kerry now Alex is broke as well as Alex is a multi-level marketing guy Gary is in debt now yeah she said she had to put traveling on her credit card you maxed out her credit cards with going to Egypt right so we have one more clip and this actually makes me feel much less pity for her we've got some other shows coming up I am still inviting Isaac Cappy to come

on the show as hoping to have one tomorrow no don't do that so stay in case that happens no one who is kind of a whistle blower talking about the pedophilia in Hollywood great and and you know all of that so it will be great when he gets around to coming on my show Isaac Cappy wait is that fucking guy the guy who said that it's for real Isaac Cappy the guy who said that Seth Green wanted to talk to him about chicken and that means that he's a pedophile yep the guy who was

on Alex Jones Isaac Cappy going to go on project do they like have a conference do they hang out what do you mean I mean just the producer of project came a lot like that's Kerry cheers no team I apologize oh by the way I forgot to bring this up in that last clip she was talking about her webmaster not being able to pay him the last time we did an episode about Eddie Page on that episode she's talking about how her webmaster disappeared and that she needed to get a

replacement webmaster and she does not talk about it in the context of I couldn't pay him but that's clearly was going right in the middle of the show Eddie Page is like that webmaster disappearing is probably the man trying to come down on you and she was like yeah probably so she was presenting it as a thing where it's like this is an attack from the yeah would be globalists or secret space program or whatever she would call it she couldn't pay him it turns out

there's a very concrete explanation for everything that she didn't want to work for free right there's a concrete explanation for everything that she's claiming is some sort of attack in the same way that she was like there's some sort of weird cyber weapon coming at me you had bells palsy it went away thank God it did but yeah stop it stop with this bullshit I understand that it's tough out there it's tough it is tough it's tough to make money when you're doing

something I get that I'm nothing no you get that I'm nothing but empathetic I absolutely am yeah you gotta stop lying and you cannot have eyes it can't be on your fucking show can't have him on he's just a fucking nothing well he's a conman he's not even that yeah he is well he's a sensationalist dangerous he's minimizing of pedophilia he's an act he's a failed actor fuck you he's a whistleblower yeah that's how bad an actor he is he's not even good at acting like he's a

whistleblower he's a bad he's a bad faith actor he's a bad actor good enough to get on a project Camelot and the Alex Jones show God I swear to is that what it's called now what I wonder if he could rebrand the Alex Jones show yeah and said do like a daytime talk show like Megan Kelly what if he went to the Megan Kelly route he does a daytime talk show he talks to Dr. Phil all the time it'd be great I mean he already called this show the final edition back in the day it would

be nice to have a new flair to it yeah yeah who gives a shit anyway what is up with this pregnant mom who had six kids probably aliens got to talk to Alex now we got a lie detector test to see if it's aliens results are in it's an alien it's an hour goes why so Jordan this brings us to the end of this project Camelot the dalliance yes this this was fun for me on a number of levels because this guy I mean he's not even crazy in like the crazy way you know he's

just bad that he just doesn't know what he's talking about and has managed to trick a couple hundred people and that gives him enough credibility to come on Kerry's program and he doesn't say anything too offensive to her worldview so she goes along with it quite well but I would argue that at the end of this podcast I put him squarely on the stupid end of the stupid slash evil content what about that part where he threatens people that's kind of a function of stupidity yeah

that's a dumb person thing to do yeah rage and anger are kind of dumb yeah expressions yeah I don't know man it's it's hard and he didn't write it like if he wrote a really threatening letter like the unibomber well written yeah it was complete with with a series of steps that he would take that's a different story than a guy who it might as well be tweeting or like really on or like if you found personal information about those people like oh yeah scarier but also indicate higher intelligence

absolutely absolutely yeah yeah I do the smartest thing to do would just be to blow their studio up or whatever without any evidence that it was you I mean we got to it too early I think with like the idea of like he doesn't understand perspective but like that to me is absolutely makes me on your side in terms of stupid oh yeah but I do still think he's a con man for sure but maybe not as robust a career of one yet right who knows what he will blossom and he's got you got work

to do but I think I think you got yeah yeah exactly yeah I was terrible at stand up when I was only two years holy shit yeah you got it takes at least you're gonna have a couple minutes on stage two years I'm still three years away from being good speaking of which tonight as this episode comes out you will be at Zaini's in Rosemont I'll be there from Wednesday or tonight until Sunday if any policy wonks want to come out and check out the show they should find a way to get

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where everyone should go yeah I mean if you want to like the page that's great and if you want to leave a review on the page we would appreciate that quite a bit also because Facebook is a fucking pile of shit they changed everything up we had a bunch of reviews on our Facebook page we had something like 60 something reviews all five stars except for two assholes who sent me threatening messages were clearly info wars fans okay bitterly posted one star but the rest of it was it

was great it was this nice collection of things and now Facebook has changed it to recommendations so you don't leave stars anymore you just would you recommend this to your friends so they've changed the entire thing into a thing where it's like if you know that if you click that it's going to post it on your yeah page yeah yeah so they're trying to make it more intrusive to like a page so never mind fuck it don't even do that just join the group yeah that's what's important

it's fun it's my I don't have I don't have a Facebook anymore so I like to lurk in there just like as a random stranger so it's fun also you need to do a second run through the Pokemon go through the Pokemon go more have been added that I think they'll feel left out they'll feel left out if you don't I was I when the original thread happened I tried to add everybody so I'll keep I'll keep jumping in there I'll keep jumping in there a lot of people want to play Pokemon go with

you which is great it's fun rolls on iTunes indeed we are various places Dan you know there's just one thing that's been in the back of my mind that's a whole episode which is that Bruce sees all should have seen at least one thing well the the set of things that is described by the word all yeah we're here to see all there are a number of things he would see but there's at least one thing that he would have seen certainly that would be really important right there

would be me making eggs this morning you would have seen that are you sure yep that's one of the things you would see another thing is you would have seen that Alex Jones probably killed a dude Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding. Well Alex I'm a person called a huge fan I love your work I love you.