Knowledge Fight - #210: March 9, 2009

Episode Date: September 26, 2018

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about how, on March 9, 2009, Alex Jones decided to take a break from spreading fear about the "Globalists" trying to unleash a bioweapon in order to give his review of the Watchmen movie and to give his support to an abusive cult.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed, we are Dan. Yeah, Dan. Yeah. When was the last time you were sick? It's been a long time actually. I've not had many bouts of illness Lately I can't actually even remember. I mean, there have been hangovers and stuff that have made me sick in the last year or so But in terms of like I like that self-inflicted sickness, right? I'm talking like a bug. You know what I mean? It's been a long time Yeah, yeah, I've had like

Mild food stuff a lot. Okay. My diet's terrible. Yeah, okay So I've had indigestion from food way more than any normal person should right but no in terms of actual sickness I can't even remember the last time. I think that's probably because you limit your exposure to Traditionally sick populations. Would you say no? Oh, okay. I don't know. I don't think that's I don't think that's why I'm out and about I see people. Well, I'll tell you something. I was sick. I get it. I was never no, no I was I was just like that. I was never ever sick, but my girlfriend is a Teacher works in school. So she gets a hundred thousand kids touching her in bullshit every day. Yeah, and so now I'm I'm dealing with it and now you got the the the cold right now exactly and I appreciate you coming in and fighting through it as we

Get this this here adventure where I know a lot about Alex Jones And I don't know anything but what you tell me about Alex and we we make our fun You know being sick sucks, but you know, what does it all I knew that transition was coming That was that was a fucking ad pivot if I ever heard what indeed it was What doesn't suck is our new donors like to give a shout out to a couple folks who have signed up and are supporting the team We really appreciate it first. I'd like to say thank you for joining up and becoming a policy wonk is a bell I'm a policy wonk. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Isabelle. We really appreciate it Also, I'd like to say thank you so much to Joshua. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

Very much Joshua, and then one more for today before we get down to the old brass tacks Like to say thank you to someone else who has joined up David. You are now a policy wonk oops I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, David You were you weren't but then after he corrected it you were right and are it was on a razor's edge Thank you very much, David. So Jordan today. We have a nice episode in front of us It's Wednesday, so everyone's probably expecting it to be wacky Wednesday. It's not okay Every week literally I forget because we don't record on Wednesday, so I'm never like oh well

This is the wacky Wednesday episode every week. I completely forget. Um, I went and I watched a little bit of project Camelot Carrie Cassidy put out a video that had the heading Don't shoot the messenger. I thought she might be talking to us through the screen Who belongs on project Camelot now do you have me probably But it was this weird thing where she was talking about how like you what you have to understand is that most of my whistleblowers Have been mind controlled at some point So obviously they're going to lie a bunch of the time and you know what if they tell me a lie Does that mean everything they say is a lie? I'm like, uh, baby

Oh That's that's a good non-argument. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it makes sense in her world It's not an actual defense No, it just made me feel really bad and I was like I don't want to talk about them for a while Yeah, I'm gonna let them be until Mark Richards or Eddie Page comes back and then we'll reevaluate Man if Eddie Page comes back that's gonna be a that's gonna be a pay-per-view episode for us But for now, it's like she interviewed a super soldier

I'm like, I don't know if I have it in my heart to meet a new player Right page has taken a lot out of me. There's only one super soldier and that's Kurt Russell my friend indeed Once you meet a racist alien, it's tough for anyone else to compare quite frankly. So we'll see what happens I think we've met a few. Yeah, but for now Jordan instead of wacky Wednesday We're sticking back in the past. Okay, because we didn't do a 2009 episode for Monday We did that interview which thank you to everybody who had such positive feedback. I really appreciated everyone enjoying that Today we're back in 2009. I wanted so desperately to cover a lot of ground Yeah, a couple days take it all get it all moved on, but I couldn't oh, of course today

We are just doing March 9th 2009 just one day just one day. Oh my god We're gonna be in 2009 for forever. Are we maybe but who cares if that's the case and that's the case I'm just I mean, yeah, there's a lot to learn. I'm there's a happier time There's so much to learn back then every day brings us a new huge lie that he's telling it's very exciting for someone like me Yeah, those were exciting times whenever all lies were new We were just emerging into Barack Obama's presidency when the lie became the truth. We were wee babes. Yeah, that was nice so To fill everybody in who hasn't listened to all of the 2009 stuff recently

We found Alex Jones going pretty much whole hog for about a month in 10th Amendment resolutions Absolutely that various state houses were putting forth all he had all of these weird state reps on who all seemed to have Bizarrely racist pasts who would guess all very problematic people so strange and they all come on about how the states are Reasserting their sovereignty and all this. Oh, yeah But then in the middle of it Alex seems to have dropped the ball a little bit and he wants to juggle a couple more narratives So he brings in this false story about the avian flu release In the Czech Republic and so we're all over the place We're trying to find out when he talks about starts talking about Soros and when he

Decides I get the tea party is pretty cool and so far we've seen absolutely no indications of either of those really coming into focus Speaking of which quick question that I probably should have answered or asked on our previous episode sure But maybe I did it's not 11 blogger still going strong. I don't know. I didn't look at any of the like front page of it Okay, I only saw the post that you saw the relevant post you didn't go to the site It's still up. So there's that yeah, somebody's still renewing the the domain registration So I don't I don't know I can't answer that but I can't say you can still find archived content at least So we're in a place where it's like it's super weird You know I and I opened up this episode really strongly expecting it to continue down the avian flu path

Right because it seems like that's the narrative. He's trying to build up So nothing in the world could have prepared me for this being the beginning of the episode In the third hour today, I'm gonna do a detailed review of The blockbuster film that was released nationwide on Friday The Watchman We'll go over the characters night owl the comedian Rorschach, dr. Manhattan Oh I have never seen such a

Propaganda It was off the charts and yes spoiler alert. I Am going to you know lay out what the film covers in detail including the ending Oh spoilers He said spoilers. It's hard to mention it right now and then not get into it. What did we say spoilers? It's just unspeakable unspeakable Unspeakable well, you're gonna try you know what is unspeakable Ozzymandias

Apparently is unspeakable to Alex because he keeps calling him Ozzy mandamus The entire show he calls him it like 20 30 time Which is hilarious to me first of all because no one calls him Ozzy mandamus in the movie No, they call him Ozzymandias or you know what else could have called him Adrian He didn't want it or Viet if he didn't want to call him on if he has trouble pronouncing Ozzymandias by all means Go for Adrian. All right. There is no other way they're played by Matthew good There is no other way to take that then that is exactly what Bill and Ted would have called Ozzymandias if he was in Bill

And Ted's excellent adventure. I mean, it's possible But here here's the really funny thing about the fact that Alex keeps mispronouncing Ozzymandias It really highlights why because it's an ironic Absolutely apropos thing for him to mispronounce considering his current position Well, it would be one thing if like it was just a random name But it's not no, it's a reference to a reference On the nose name for Alex today. Well, see here's the thing is it's like another name for Ramses the second But then more importantly, it's the it's the name. It's an allusion to two poems from 1818 by English the English poet Percy Shelley and

the theme of those poems in Inform the understanding of Ozzymandias or Ozzymandias as character So the idea that Alex thinks that his name is Ozzymandias Doesn't recognize that the name is a literary illusion. It leads me to believe he doesn't really have that much of an in-depth Review coming absolutely. I guess absolutely. No clue. Just my guess I bet he doesn't even know who Percy by Shelley was married to probably not so Which is also an apropos Thing for

Reference to Alex Jones considering sure what could be more Frankenstein's monster than Alex Jones in the context of the current situation We're in seems seems that way. Oh man, the Shelly's fucking new Alex Jones was coming. It was all in a little whole family. Yeah, so excuse me, so I Was expecting hard science and like flu shit So when I jumped in and he comes out of the gate being like I'm gonna tell you all about the watchmen Finally somebody answered the question who watches the watchmen. It's Alex the info warrior nation So here we go

Here's ears where Alex goes because he can't stop himself from not reviewing the movie But then he's not really gonna review it just yet, but he wants you to know this The watchmen film Number one at the box office a vicious threat to the people of the world Sounds right complete Illuminati religion revealed to everyone perfect and I am in the in the crash course on the watchmen as I said yesterday spent a few hours researching it Several people are fans of the comic and had been telling me that I had to read it and had to look at it You hadn't yet and then I googled reviews of it and most reviews for the watchmen are saying we don't understand it

You know the New York Times and CNN we don't get the ending of the movie. We don't understand it. I Don't believe that for a minute. They understand it all too. Well, how could someone not understand this film? Okay? What are we doing dad? I this is wacky Wednesday, Dan It kind of is this might as well be a project Camelot episode of he's gonna Extrapolate the entire future of the human race through the watchmen Well because it's Alex Jones. It can never be truly wacky There's going to be this wacky element and then the craziest fucking thing This show ends in a way that like I can't believe Alex didn't scrub this from the internet. Let's say really yeah

It's it's crazy. Does he disintegrate at the end destroyed by Ozzy mandamus That Alex's show is a threat to humanity So Alex I'm gonna skip this clip because it's stupid But Alex predicts that Bernie Madoff is gonna walk which hey that did not work out that way I'll well for him although Alex I think nowadays does think the Bernie Madoff faked his death and is living on an island or something like that So that's a good idea for Bernie. Yes. I don't know either way. He's like they're never gonna charge him with anything

All right, kind of did then he killed himself. Yep. So This this next clip We like to catalog the times when Alex sings along with music and does karaoke. It's fun this instance of it I don't want to catalog. This is a very angry version of him doing karaoke Nothing that dude's eyes and shooting with my old forty five cause the country boy can survive Country folks can survive Cuz you can't starve us out and you can't make us run Yeah

Please don't shut guns look at my big fucking truck Oh We are back live your calls are coming up in the next segment with a ton of other news Are they I just start thinking about all we've been through all we've put up with and the enemy is so desperate to Try to discredit us because they know that this radio show info wars comm what we do is assemble to others to be leaders and To be bold and to stand up and to resist and they're afraid that you're gonna get that fighting spirit They're afraid that you're gonna commit a hundred and ten percent in defense of the Republic and they know that if you commit and

Realize who our enemy is and what their tactics are and if we get the word out about this that we're gonna defeat these people And they're gonna end up going to prison So I only kept that in first of all because it starts with country folk can survive Always a nice nice time Yeah, but then that I want you to hold on to that little that little ramble there at the end where You know they they're afraid of us because we inspire people They're afraid because they know that we're gonna rise up and they're going to prison hold on to that I know it's a very standard Alex right thing

But by the end of this episode the fact that he's getting into that sort of mode is going to be fucking hilarious so Where you at? Are you wishing that he got to his a watchman review already? No, he's just he's just teased it for you. I mean like So so what is he what is he planning on doing for the first two hours? Well, he rambles about Madoff and then he talks about how mark Cuban the globalist threatened to murder his kids The globalist threatened to murder mark Cuban's kids. Well, you see mark Cuban put up some of the money behind loose change

And then really yeah I didn't know this. Yeah, how did I not know this? I don't know how what it was this Oh, was this an episode of shark tank? I fucking miss. Yep. Yep Yep, Jason Burmese showed up on shark tap Mark Cuban's like I'm buying it. All right. Um, and he was going to make tens of dollars through one of his companies he was going to distribute it and then also Unrelated circumstances he got busted for insider trading and Alex has conflated the two and to being right. It's a consequence of him

Okay, all right. My film right and so he's built up this entire thing where mark Cuban's been threatened and they're gonna kill his family Yeah, shit strangely enough somebody that Alex defense has also recently been embroiled in a situation where people were abusing women pretty much Constantly crazy isn't that odd hold on to that thought till the end of this episode too great. I Can't even to begin to tell you how bad this thing It may be one of the work. I mean you're teasing me like Alex is teasing me about the watchman I want you to be on edge, baby. I want to know what exactly is going on with Rorschach does is does is a Sock face actually move with the black dots. We don't know absolutely Okay, so in that last clip Alex said he was going to take some calls and I'll give him

He does take a few calls Yeah, and here's one of them that I thought was particularly telling about Alex's interests and his business Back in 2009. Let's talk to Bob in Connecticut Bobby here. Hey Bob. Oh, yes, sir Yes, um, hopefully I don't have that one. Oh, I just got a cure just a minute ago I'm trying to find out if I can I know I can but I'm first of all, there's one person a Bible that said and know this also then last day's Parallels time shall come get to it. I'm referring to this time or it could have been back in a Depression or so on Nero, but we are gonna be facing perilous times according to everything you've been reporting

But I'm I like to be able to help some people if that's possible if I can give a phone number and It'll be my personal phone number Well, you know, we don't really like to do that because what we've had years ago was setups Where somebody will call in and say they're one person and it's really somebody else's phone number And there's some liability associated with that And I don't really know you Bob. I mean you're saying you want to help people specifically. How do you want to help people? But I give a website then Sure, go ahead Bob. Okay

www.zmo. That's x i m o health h e a l t h dot com so you have a product that's gonna help somebody Well, it's it gives you Like I'm kind of gives you like a some energy gives endurance people work out and I got you Hey, I appreciate the plug. It's just no other talk radio would allow that I try to let everybody have their say but if I let you do that I actually about ten years ago that anybody say whatever they wanted people call up saying I got a tractor for sale in Missouri Okay, and I you know what if you want to plug something you got to bring some content to the show first and then work it in

nice interesting Do you do you mean you've got a real Fucking reveal the whole game. You mean you got to tell some limericks on air before you get a plug in is that what you're saying Alex? That is so overt You got to bring some content to the show before I'm gonna allow that and guess what a little bit later in the show Here's what he does so I wanted to have Tyler Palmer the

Founder of the company and a guy that designed this unit. It's the best atmospheric system We found Tyler are great to have you on with us. Well, thanks, Alex Thanks for having me on again and hello to all the listeners. I Mean we're about to break but just explain to people that yes, you really can grab water out of the air cool He has his E. Cola blue water filtration CEO Sponsor on as a guest he says to a caller earlier You have to bring some content to the show if you're gonna be plugging and then he has

Someone who he's plugging come in do embedded content on his show So very clear what's going on here? This is a little ridiculous Shows nuts. Yeah, I I like it It has a far more ramshackle appeal than it used to I mean then it does now then it does now Of course like the idea that some dude can just be like I want to help people Okay, what are you talking about? How do you feel about helping people? How are you gonna help people go to my website? www

Dot dude, we we've all been around the internet. It's still 2009 like the internet's been around a while Tp that to dot thing colon to colon. All right. All right. I apologize. We don't call it that Yeah, man, it's crazy. It's it's it there's a fun to it that is certainly absent. What do you what do you got? There once was a man from Connecticut, okay He broke Alex's rules on etiquette. Ooh He didn't think you were gonna pull that out. He gave his website Chances our money is tight nice and now he is gonna get rid of it. Oh

Damn it. I almost nailed it and a little and it can't land it. Can't end a limerick on a slant run. Yeah What do you got? What do you got? Huh etiquette? That was I feel like I should get points for etiquette at least It's not bad. I was a pretty good one. You should never end a sentence in a predicate Done Write it down that goes down to knowledge my history our only limerick So you've been craving it and you didn't have to wait too long We now get to the point where Alex begins his review of the watch. All right, and now let's see

Let's see what kind of work he's put in here I'm now gonna do my review of the film Watchman now. Let's be clear here, please I'm not a big comic fan because I've always Studying history and government documents in the way the world actually works, but Are the mimics life life image and of course mimics art itself. So that goes vice versa. I Did go see the movie Saturday night because listeners kept telling me I had to see it Then on Sunday, I bought the Watchman novel itself and scan through it and it's very very similar to the film itself I've done some basic research

Scanned the graphic novel that is that is perhaps The most revealing thing Alex has ever said. Yeah, I scan through it Yeah, it should be his his like I read a lot of history books should be replaced with like I gave it a good scan I read the headlines of the graphic Scan through it. There's some bad stuff. It's a big new Brazinski is in the Watchman. I assume Desperately wanted to understand of this thing that I'm labeling as a grave threat to humanity So I so I stand it. No, I know it's a longer graphic novel. It's like what 400 pages or something like that It's a graphic fucking novel. It's a long one

But it's still it doesn't take more than like two hours to read that thing There are a couple patches where there are like full pages of like documents and stuff about the keen act and the minute But it's not like it's you could get you get through it even if you have the reading skills of Alex It's a fucking graphic novel. You know, that's that's the weird thing about graphic novels though Is that what like with a book? There's a there's a standardized way of Alex probably got to the first part about the dark freighter And he's just like through. Oh, yeah, absolutely a fuck is this shit that wasn't in the movie Alex probably saw the the doomsday prophet on the street and was like too close to me I hate this book. I was really worried you're gonna say the black kid reading the comic on the street and be like

I don't like this representation. Yeah. Well, that's possible, too I don't know why he wouldn't just go ahead and read it if he thinks it's like the Illuminati Bible It's hard to read. It's not hard to read a graphic. No, I mean for Alex It's it's just physically hard for him to must be it must hurt him in some way Otherwise, I don't see why he's so averse to doing it and frankly He could just look at the pictures pretty well and still kind of get the gist of it. Yeah It's a pretty solid But I think he might have done that and came away with some of the wrong messages

And maybe some wrong messages about the movie, too And one of the first ones is illustrated Alex. You cannot breathe on Mars. I don't care who's taking you No, but here's the first of what I would describe as his massive misunderstandings of Watchman I've done some basic research on the creator of Watchman Alan Moore who is a Mason and into all of this Who cares? Okay, also Alex in 2018 you're saying that the Illuminati isn't real It's a fanciful term that people when you're drunk doing an interview in a hotel room. So

Tied stuff. Oh also that I forgot that that's the reason I brought that up is that in order for his like narrative to be consistent It's some point between 2009 and 2018 in that nine years the Illuminati had to have literally been defeated at some point Oh, yeah, which I don't remember him announcing. Oh the great Illuminati is now just a fanciful idea The Illuminati war. Yeah But if you look on the cover of the novel itself you see Ozzy Mandamus the leader of the superheroes The coach smartest man in the world and he has the all-seeing eye of Horace on His breastplate

That's never gonna get old for me. No, it's not He has the eye of Horace because his name is derived from Ramsey the second. Yeah, but The other thing the massive miss misrepresentation or the misunderstanding that Alex seems to be having is That Ozzy Mandius is the leader of the heroes. No, he's the villain. He's the villain That's literally the entire point of the book. Yes Straight up He's a complicated villain much like Rorschach is a complicated hero, right? But there is no way to look at those books the book or the movie and think that he is the leader of the heroes

Like he is somehow he's not in the in the graphic novel that he skimmed Ozzy Mandius is presented as a much more human flawed figure Right, whereas because I think the acting is so terrible the Matthew good I don't think was able to get those notes and in the movie by cutting out the entire Part about the dark freighter you lose a lot of the context for Ozzy Mandius's character That gives him the humanity of being the villain but also a sacrificial villain Did you just recently read the book or are you actually a fan of the watchman? I love watchmen I read it in college. I don't not a huge graphic novel guy, but I really like Alan Moore

Yeah, I love swamp thing to like a swamp thing is fucking great. Yeah, and even leave extraordinary gentlemen I haven't read all of his work or anything, but yeah, a number of my buddies were into Some of his stuff and I worked at a movie theater in high school We have the Dark Knight and stuff like that killing joke is really good one, too Yeah, he he does a really good job of like crafting complicated stories as opposed to like the hero stories That maybe you're more used to of good and bad. There's blurring of lines right shit like that He's also a dick like I'm not gonna defend him. He's a piece of more. I'm sure I know he's a piece of shit I'm sure he is and also he did be for vendetta, too. Didn't yeah

Yeah, I never read that comic that and from hell. I never read the comics of those but did you watch the movies of those? I know I watched V for vendetta I might have watched from hell because that came out when I worked at the theater and I don't have a full catalog of everything Right in theater Stephen Fry Absolutely killed it in V for Veneta. Yeah, everybody else. Hey, you know you you win or lose some but Stephen Fry was fucking dope I don't like that movie because it's just it's like an aesthetic masquerading as a movie. Yeah Oh, no, no, no, I absolutely agree I didn't enjoy watching it in the same way with watchmen when I watched watchmen

I didn't think it was terrible like when I watched the movie. I thought like I did I really didn't like how People like the comedian and Rorschach were made into superhuman strength. Yeah guys and stuff Yeah, and I fucking didn't like how Night Owl was presented as like Confident I really hate I really hated that guy. I liked the guy who played a night ale a night owl I hate Wilson in literally everything. He's ever been in. I hate that guy about his face. That's not like wrong Yeah, I think there were a lot of problems with the movie but watching it I still had a positive experience of like it still got me amped a little bit

All right, a lot of the visuals were really great Jackie Earl Haley was perfectly cast Fucking nails it. Yeah, I can't remember who played dr. Manhattan, but he was great, too Shit from Yeah, Billy Crudup. Yeah, I think there's a lot in there that's salvageable Despite it being like it's not as good as the grab no, absolutely not But the Billy Crudup also crushed it in Princess Mononoke in case you were wondering. I haven't seen that but amazing I don't care. I'm not a nerd I

Says the guy who can pull the watchman Fucking from memory from college reading it. I've read it a bunch time since oh, yeah, I've bought it like six times It's been stolen every time. Oh, yeah Well, I went it to somebody and then it's never come back. So nobody is watching your copy of the watchman Yeah, no one time I wouldn't my house burned down. I lost a copy Oh, yeah, five of them have been stolen from me and then I But uh look, I think it's great I think Elmore does great work, but it's a crazy massive

misunderstanding of the text and of the film in any way to think that Ozzy mandamus You could you couldn't make that back-to-back fucking great Ozzy mandamus is walking down the street to quote Ozzy mandamus rifle rifle I Could make an argument that Ozzy mandamus was trying to put like Present himself and position himself as the leader of all these dudes, right? But he wasn't the leader of the heroes. He wasn't even the leader I think because he wins in the end. That's why Alex thinks he's the hero

Maybe because he just assumes that the hero wins which is which is another child Understanding of the narrative. Yeah So let's let's see if he has any more to say about that, but I think that's a that's a glaring huge Sign of his what kind of depth he's taken into the text. Yeah, and it's it's He's so dumb and so I want to do a basic breakdown of this film It is an Illuminati new world or threat. Yeah all of humanity It is the psychopaths love to let the public know what they're planning what they're doing They believe that it gives them magical powers. That's why they made a movie 30 years later

Advertise what they're doing and how they operate to the public In all fairness to Ellen Moore He did not want to be involved in the film because they changed some of the things that are in his official comic written back in the 1980s, but he himself again is an admitted Mason and promotes the whole Illuminati ideology and They reveal the Illuminati mindset in their system and what they believe in in the film So let's go ahead and go to part of the trailer. He plays the trailer

Which is great Of course he plays the trailer and it's so great for an audio medium Yeah, like a like a radio show because it's just that slowed-down version of that smashing pumpkin song and like No sound effects of like night owls jet coming out of the water and then Rorschach out of context saying Masses will look up to me and say help and I will say no Then the smashing pumpkins kicks back in Alex come on man. So

the This concept of like the lesser magic and stuff like that is just it's so crazy so He keeps saying that Alan Moore is a Mason and I don't know if that's true And I don't really care, but I started watching a documentary series on Netflix about the masons Okay, all right, and I'm not gonna watch the rest of it, but good call. So cute That's a great conspiracy theory review, I love that anytime there's any times is oh the Templars Are the ones who are really you are?

Such a cutie. I don't you're so cute I do not like the idea of it being so much Anti-woman and no women allowed and all that stuff. Yeah, whatever. That's not my battle to fight necessarily with the masons this documentary it they get like here to for Unbelievable access to the temple the the Masonic temple in in London Yeah, which is like the biggest of them all cool I'm there talking to all these dudes and they are fucking straight-up dorks

They're they're all dorks who are really into ritual and they show them like like Rehearsing doing a dress rehearsal of the ritual Yeah, and you can see the grandmaster of the lodge and he's he's got the script of the ritual And he's like looking over it while the new acolyte is like rehearsing. Oh, it's like these are theater dorks No, it's awesome when I was growing up my friend my best friend at the time when I was like seven or eight Yeah, was a Mason his dad was a Mason and here's my memory of the Masonic temple There was a magic the gathering tournament there. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of shit exactly It's so great. It's a fun magic the gathering tournament. I lost my friend one

He's really really good at it's these people getting together for the most part to have a social club And to do these little mini plays that sort of give you that same charge that you might have if you did plays There's a real thrill to that and then also there's like singing gospel in Baptist church And then there's also the regalia of the fun aprons. They wear they're all geeking out about everybody loves them It's so fun and then the other thing too that they talk about a bunch is the idea of like The masons they reason that they you know stone mason roots and all that what they do is they try and help people become better People through the metaphor of building like the idea of building a house you put a brick down and then you put another brick down

Yeah, put another brick down eventually you got a good house, right? That's the way you can long as one of those bricks is Peter Sure, that's the way you can live your life. You can make yourself a better life by laying brick after brick after brick It's not it doesn't feel as satisfying But if you do that that's the great wisdom of the universe. Yeah, so anyway, Alex is like really invested in saying that Alan Moore is Mason and I don't I don't he's a mason. I don't admit it I don't particularly care about that but this clip is fun because it means that Alex didn't actually do that much research And Alan Moore after all and the man that wrote

Watchman Alan Alan Moore is an admitted mason admitted tire He writes other comics like the Sandman and others. It's all about the New World Order How dare you that's Neil Gaiman. No shit dare you how dare you sir? Exactly. How dare you any number of things he could have pulled in there and he pulled exactly the wrong The exact wrong one, right? Jesus so all the Sandman is maybe the best graphic novel of all time It might be why he pulled it because he doesn't have a lot of references

Yeah, that's fair, but so like what you have here is you have a guy who's calling them one of the main characters Aussie man Damus he has an inability to understand that that's a reference to a poem about the hubris of rulers And how their temples crumble and shit like that Wink wink. Well, do you remember Neil Gaiman's famous character? Sandy man Morpheus. Do you remember that? Totally? Yeah, that was a great one Illuminati shit through and through so then he's saying the Sandman is written by Alan Moore He doesn't know what he's talking about. These are just basic facts that he's getting no clue It's really crazy. So here he's gonna talk more about how he's gonna review the film

Doesn't really review it all that much just talks about reviewing it I'm gonna take my time doing this review because it's very very important of Watchman Now the number one movie in theaters and with all these different Reviewers saying they don't understand the ending that understand it. Well, it's real simple Rorschach and also the comedian Yeah want to stop These are the two, you know sub superheroes they want to stop

The planned the false flag terror attack that they know is being planned by somebody Now the comedian knows who it's being planned by so he's torn. He's the guy that assassinated Kennedy from behind the grassy Noel He's a new world order special forces hit man. He's that aren't tight So he has to be killed you're crushing it Rorschach is then finally killed because he's going to expose at the end who staged the false flag attack And we'll break that down Coming up here in just a few minutes, but you better breaking that happening here You have to first understand how the globalist operate how they believe that they must reveal

Their plans to the public before they do it So he's rants about that for a little while but Alex before you understand any of this you need to realize that this is a fictional universe Shh There's a big blue magic man Art imitates life Dan, which means life imitates art. That's a simple syllogism Here's the other problem with his sort of like this idea of the false flag stuff and all that is like in the book And in the movie presumably they're living in a universe where there is going to be a nuclear war Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah

Ozimandius's plan is awful and horrific and that's why he's the villain, but in that universe it worked Right, right exactly. That's the thing. Yeah, there was going to be a nuclear war Yeah, the entire point of it was like the idea of essentially like would you Pull the lever. All right, you got one person on the train you got five people over there That's would you pull the lever to save five people and kill one person or would you not that is the exact? That's the whole plot of the put all the watchmen is when you really boil it down and take away all of the narrative

Flourishes and the interesting characters is Utilitarianism exactly debate. Yeah, that's all it is. Yeah, it's a Like And that's not why Rorschach is killed at the end No, Rorschach is killed at the end because he knows that he is incapable of stopping himself From telling these people so regardless a slight difference Right so regardless of how he actually feels about whether or not it will work which by the end you kind of suspect He thinks yes, that is the thing that's going to work

But if I'm going to stick to my ideals, which is the entire point of my character to begin with right I have to not do that. So I would rather you destroy me than me fuck your plan Yeah, he basically accepts his own destruction Towards the end. Yeah, which is I don't know man, I love it when Alex gets into literature I Love it So we have one more clip of him breaking down the watchmen because he doesn't really get into it too much

Wait, I thought we were only doing March 9th. We are But I thought the watchman was his big flagship story for March 9th. It is we're like 20 minutes into this episode It's already over 40 minutes into the episode. All right, but I don't understand how time works. Whatever. We're talking The thing is that he doesn't really get all that deep on it He plays the trailer says it's the Illuminati Bible. Yeah, what have you and then just sort of repeats that keeps going to break Coming back and being like it's the number one movie at the box It almost feels like buzz marketing quite frankly. Oh, yeah, it does kind of feel like that doesn't it saying it's the number one movie in America that that's sort of shit and then he keeps trying to relate it to other things like he brings in that TV show that

X-files spin off the lone gunman and plays a clip from that where never saw that is that any good Alex is but one of his favorite things to talk about is how Dean Haglund one of the lone gunman Was on his show and said that the CIA told them to make a 9-eleven plot on one of their episodes I think Alex just likes anybody who describes themselves as a lone gunman. Yeah regardless of the consequences Those characters were so cool on the X-files when I was 10 I Come on Walker, Texas ranger I did watch the lone gunman when I was younger

But I have very little memory of it just because I love the X-files man Yeah, not one of my things. No never got into the X-files. I feel like it's too late now I don't know. I think you could enjoy it on Netflix like a nice binge kind of thing David DeCovney's a lot of fun Jillian Anderson's great. No, no, no, I love him both Hmm, so Jillian Anderson has been great and everything she's ever done. She's amazing. Yeah. Oh, yeah What was that British show she was in that was amazing? Yeah, that one was really good The name of the night is really good. She was great and she was great in American gods Another thing based on more you'll game it. God damn it was Alan Moore

So all this is to say that his analysis does not run deep it doesn't but this next clip I think really sums up. So the first misunderstanding. I believe is that Ozymandias is a good guy I thought it was that his name was Ozzy mandamus. That's the two is a fork. It's a double pronged Misunderstanding. Well, his best friend was so great. That's true. Yeah, so that is the first like Essential misunderstanding that he's making. Yeah, and then this this next clip brings into sharp focus his second semi-related critical misunderstanding Ozzy mandamus does

The World Trade Center and then it cuts to the wound in the earth that looks identical to the wound in the earth after They had dug it all out It shows all the banners of we'll never forget in American flags and things and he says to Dr. Manhattan Ozzy mandamus who's basically Lucifer says to his Twin brother God Lucifer was actually in say don't you see why I did this now this stopped nuclear war by me staging these terror attacks Worldwide now the Soviets in the United States are friends and working together And the bad guy they believe is the bad guy Rorschach who? Has been saying no to all of us. He says that's it. I'm in the war in the world. I'm gonna tell everybody and

Dr. Manhattan kills him blows him into bits good aerosolizes him and That is the message the world is saved There's a new kingdom being set up by the pyramid corporation a world government and Lucifer Ozzy mandamus is gonna stay on the earth Never I'm not gonna enjoy that The new man is going to travel the stars as a god and says I'm leaving to go explore the universe And that's how the movie ends and the earth has been saved the bad guy has been killed

Rorschach who's against child molestation and against tyranny and against police brutality. He's the bad guy He is killed everyone is saved because the evil sociopath Rorschach has been defeated Alex thinks he's Rorschach Wow Wow, he really does think he's Rorschach Rorschach Rorschach. Yeah, Alex Deeply identifies with Rorschach. He's yeah, of course. He does of course. He does look why why they're making the guy Who's most like me the bad guy because they're not he is the most verbose? a Asshole in in maybe comics in history. Yeah, he is he is really on to his own dick

Mm-hmm that that Rorschach character. Yeah, and Alex thinks he could fight his way out of a prison cell There's all sorts of reasons he Alex Alex Alex could not identify more with the like you think I'm in here with you. Yeah, you're in here with me Yeah, yeah Yeah, I I mean there's no other way to slice it then this entire thing is based on the misunderstanding of Alignments first of all good versus evil right or good guy versus bad guy narratively right and then further the misunderstanding of Alex you You think you're Rorschach and in this story you think you're the bad guy This speaks volumes about your psychology

Even when ostensibly the character you most identify with is presented as a complicated hero Yeah, you still find a way to be the victim. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah insane. It's fascinating. Ah Fascinating. He's got some sort of paranoid schizophrenia. There's no doubt. Yeah And it goes through so many different like for so many years different tendrils different ways of expressing itself It's just in it's it's fascinating to me a movie review can't be done without getting into some sort of This is about me, right, right at the globalists Ozzy mandamus and Dr. Manhattan The globalists right are coming together against me Rorschach. I

Guess Jason Burmese is night owl. I Don't know who else is around Rob do is oh dude. This is the funniest fucking thing in the world So he goes to commercial and he comes back and Rob Jacobson comes into studio to talk about Watchman Yeah, to get his there's no extra analysis really, but you can tell so they're just talking Watchman at this point for quite a bit Yeah, okay, so Rob comes in and He refuses to say Ozzymandias his name because he knows He just he keeps saying

You know that guy the character is presented as the one you're describing Egyptian oh Man Ozzymandias That's fantastic. So that brings us to the end of the Watchman portion of the show and Alex's Affiliate familiarity with poetry. Yes. I mean, it's just it's it's crazy. It's absolute nonsense that You know that he gets everything so wrong He got everything wrong about the Watchman and if you want to say it's hard to get everything wrong

It takes a lot of work to be wrong about everything because the Watchman has a lot of themes that Everybody can really kind of understand no matter where like even if you're even if you don't agree with like the overarching themes Or anything like that you can find one or two like why doesn't Alex just go like that character the comedian He really knew what the fuck was up, you know, like that's kind of what he is. That's that's his region. You know What some problems problems that character. Yeah, exactly That's why Alex would like him fair enough. So let's move along I don't think he got to the bottom of anything except to just you know Say what he wanted to say all along which you could have done in like five minutes, which is I am Rorschach

They are bad They they made a movie trying to say I'm bad. That was all about me. How does the movie end? What ends with was it because the dr. Manhattan is blamed for the attack on New York, right? There's a and so dr. Manhattan decides. He's going to live in the stars or whatever And then he realizes he has to be the bad guy in order for humanity together as opposed to I thought that was how the Psychic squid that comes into Manhattan yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dr. Manhattan isn't blamed And made the bad guy in the book right which I think is a better ending

I think the movie is worse than the the book But I think the dr. Manhattan because in the movie if dr. Manhattan is blamed at the end Then what that really says is that God is the ultimate enemy that we have to face in order to fight in order to like Break ourselves from the constant cycle of violence between each other interesting perhaps perhaps because what is dr. Manhattan other than a Physical representation of God sure sure. Oh, he also says that the symbol on his head is like a Illuminati But it's a hydrogen atom. Yeah, no, it's just a regular like it's just like if an atom is the symbol of the Illuminati then that kind of

Boy, everybody's an Illuminati. Yep. So it's been fun talking about this because it's always fun So, you know whenever Alex brings up something we can actually enjoy. It's fun Such a such an impossibly bad reader or interpreter. Yeah, like it's just it's fascinating to me the level of missing the point on so much like I Don't know. I don't know. He's he's got a Like if you a combative freshman in high school lit kind of Ability to understand things. So yeah, where it's like it's like some dude who just Has all of this pent up rage and inability to process his puberty and that's where Alex got stuck

But if you if you live like if you're If you're reviewing a piece of narrative fiction. Yeah, it behooves you mean a predictive programming It behooves you to live within the parameters that that universe sets You know what I'm saying like because otherwise the story is different Yeah, if you try and say that this is real and like one to one applicable to real life You're you're depriving the the work of its context I'm gonna try to get of its actual meaning. How many terms was Nixon in

during the the Watchman No, he came out in 86. Yeah, I think in the book. Yeah Yeah, he was he was president for there's so much a little bit longer than you're supposed to be and the key Especially as long as he was and masked superheroes don't exist in our time stream or whatever like our reality Is not depicted by Watchman Alex is stupid Alex is dumb. So here. He's stupid again. He has another guest on on this episode He moves along no longer sees fit to just talk to his water filter sponsor. He has another guest For this single segment we have representative Dennis Richardson of Oregon

Who has introduced the bill? Hjm 17 In Oregon declare 10th Amendment sovereignty which the states already have but it's important to restate that oh shit Alex is back on his bullshit. Is it important to restate it? The 10th Amendment is back my friend Couldn't you just like sue we missed it. We missed these little short dalliances into learning about shitty state representatives So so tell me Dan I assume that you I Looked into

Denison Dennis Richardson. Well, I'll say that the interview is the exact if you've seen one you've seen them all They're all the same interviews about these 10th Amendment resolutions Well, it's definitely not cuz the president's black anyways We have made up reasons that are just there to hide the fact that we're angry that the president's black Here's a few choice hits from Dennis Richardson's past. Yeah in 2007 He gave a speech from the House of Representatives floor saying that gay men are more likely to abuse children a widely debunked statistics Sure, two years later He characterized same-sex marriage as being different than quote normal marriage during a speech at the city club of Portland youth pastors are more

likely to abuse boys in also in April 20 2007 he sent out an email that started thusly quote this past week has been like no other on Monday the world witnessed the Tragedy at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia on Tuesday, Oregon witnessed the passage of domestic benefits for same-sex couple Those are not the same fucking day Oh, yeah, he got in the little Well, it's a fundraising email Of course, that's the way his brain thinks though. It's a piece of tragedies Right, so he's a big old homophobe boy kill him. He's a pile of shit. Yeah, so

It's just to say hey, man all of these dudes that you're having on for these 10th Amendment things Seem like they all are either racists or homophobes Really seems like they're all stuck in a very white dude portion of history interesting interesting, and you know what It is like Statistically impossible that all of the people Alex would have on have that in common If you just took a random sample set of Even people who are state senators it would be impossible that all of them have bigotry in their past

I kind of disagree with you. Yeah, I might have gone down the wrong path. Yeah, I'm gonna go with it wasn't it like I Think the fun thing about Obama being president is that it gave all of those Right-wing racists or or what you know, you and I would call Republicans. I Like a common boogeyman. Yeah that allowed them to keep their other hatreds at bay You know they were like oh, we can't have a black black president But now that they've got their guy in now they get to go towards everybody like we hate immigrants We gay people we like they're just shooting the hate left and right like so many teenagers masturbating It smoked them out of their holes a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. It's frustrating. Mm-hmm. This is also gonna be frustrating this next clip

We're not gonna listen to any of Dennis Richardson's appearance because like I said, they're all the same fuck that guy This is a very weird way that Alex comes back from break in the middle of the show You know a point I don't make enough on air that I think about constantly you do Is the United States is 4% of the world's population? But we had more than Half the world's wealth now most that's been stolen why a small amount of the land geographically in the world a small amount of people And we weren't perfect But we did follow biblical systems that cut back on corruption that allowed free market to flourish

And we were the apple of the world's eye So the globalists came here took over the nation set up shop use the United States to set up their world government now They're done with us. They're gonna make us just one more bankrupt third-world country South Africa's got roughly twice the resources we have in every level But they're in total squalor and it's all falling apart wonder wonder why wonder why Alex is it possible? There's some variables. You're not taking into consideration here. It's possible that you're telling a Version of history that's on par with your understanding of watchmen in terms of accuracy You know what? Here's what I'm gonna do from now on out

I'm gonna try and pull a Corollary to a graphic novel and what he just described there that is the graphic novel 100 bullets Dan, okay? Yeah, nerd. Yeah, the the idea that like it's so fucking funny We have a great vertigo title along with the Sandman We used to have half of the world's wealth, but it's all been stolen So fucking funny so crazy wait. Is that what he said cuz I thought he meant we have half the world's wealth And it's all because we stole it Yeah, cuz that makes sense. No, no, no

He was saying since the time that we used to have half the world's wealth What it has all been stolen from us, but that doesn't make sense sure does because we kind of stole half the world's wealth Mm-hmm, right. Mm-hmm. Didn't we interesting. I'm pretty sure we did That's why it makes it even more tragic that he's bringing up South Africa I'm gonna be honest we at by which I mean white dudes had a good run. Yeah Yep So Jordan now we come to the last guest of the show the Alex has He's done his he said his piece. He's given his breakdown of the Watchman

He's told a caller that if they want to plug things they got to bring content Table bring a limerick. All of this is totally cool And now we get to this last gas for some reason the name of the last guest Just from a guess that popped into my mind, and I don't know why Danny Bonaducci Is he gonna have Danny Bonaducci? I don't know if he's ever been on no It's a guy named Greg pound and who he is is less important than what he brings up By Greg pound it does great work at free our kids dot com and free our children calls up

Every week talking to the producer and he told me today and everything he's always told me turned out to be documented They wanted to come on about CPS grabbing people's children for not being vaccinated and I mean my extreme articles about that And I wanted to talk about that I was ready for that and then he said no, I've got Guessed on from the Tony a llama or Alamo ministries, and I'm familiar with how they've been persecuted and I studied the case Because listeners have sent me the news clips and articles for about a year I've been researching and even thought about getting Tony Alamo on that's been quite a witch hunt against this guy Because people don't like politically what he's covering and what he's doing. So Tony a llama was being persecuted We got this Greg pound who's coming on to talk about it. Let's see where he goes with this. Why is this Tony a llama?

Let's go to Pound town Greg There's always so much going on because you had your children kidnapped and the lay and this it said I got the mainstream articles Well, did it lost her CPS lies is because she admittedly false they don't care You don't get your children back now. Your wife had another baby She's in hiding so they can't get the baby haven't seen the baby in a while. Yeah, it's just recapping for list I told my producer you were Kidnapping children for not being vaccinated. Is that specifically what we're talking about right now?

Well, the thing is is this alamo ministries calm is basically They I mean they do their studying and we know as parents that these these immunizations aren't the best thing for our children Okay, specifically then I hadn't found out which group this was I remember reading that they were going after him for not Immunizing when there's no rules. No, they tried to take Charlie Sheen's children That was in the LA Times because he doesn't vaccinate Okay, so Tony Alamo's ministry is being persecuted because he doesn't want to vaccinate the children that are in his church Alamo Alamo. Yes, and that I guess that's the narrative that we're putting forth. Okay, fine I mean, look, you know, you do have a right to put your children in danger that way

I guess if the parents decide I don't know I mean this and we should give them smallpox sure. I mean look No, is that is that the story where we're gonna be going with it? I mean, I don't know is this gonna change at all Well, I mean, I've seen the cases With the Alamo case wasn't it that some parents spanked lightly one of their children and that's why they're grabbing I mean, let's talk about lightly some of the things that happened in this case Angela Yes, one of the things is is they they did say that they had spanked their children. It was a parent's

You know But there's no law against that there's no law, but they but they still take children because it's not real courts So they're not real courts and they're taking these children because Tony Alamo is not Vaccinating and then they're spanking. Hey as somebody whose family members were an occult that killed a kid via All the things that they just described it. How about go fuck yourself the mean that this all just seems so minor though You know, I mean this guy is clearly persecuted by the out of control government There's no law against murdering your own children. Hey Jordan. I want to tell you a little bit about Tony Alamo Let's hear about Tony Alamo. You don't know about this guy. Uh-huh

Born in 1934 under the under the name Bernie Lazar Hoffman. That's not a good sign. Why does it? Okay, Tony Alamo and his wife Susan began their ministry and mission for God in 1969 They formed Alamo Christian ministries and set out to build a congregation If there's anything I know about people who formed their ministry in 1969, no sinister elements at all They did so they built their church largely by going to inner city areas and preaching to the destitute and drug addicted promising them food and shelter at their church Of course their church was located in rural Crawford County, Arkansas So once the folks got out there they would realize they were kind of stuck and often decided to stay and ended up working for one of Alamo's Businesses or at his farm for no pay other than room and board

I hear a Jim Baker going on right now some might call that slavery But in this case Tony Alamo demands that anyone who joins his church take a vow of poverty So really it would be impossible for them to be a member of his church and simultaneously take a salary So he's really just cutting out the middle step of them having to give it back to the church after he paid them You know, you could say the same thing about Jesus and uh, christianity. So for years this appeared to be that was kind of his thing Yeah, for years this appeared to be a very basic exploitative religiously based community Tony was taking advantage of the people he recruited into his church But he was also offering them drug treatment services and there did appear to be some good work that he was doing

Uh by them, you know, it people were able to get clean. Sure. I'm not saying that they were doing this necessarily by choice There's some fucked up aspects hammers about to be dropped, isn't it then in 1982 Here comes the hammer his wife Susan died of cancer and by all accounts Tony went off the deep end Oh, so this is a fucking Heaven's gate situation for six months He kept Susan's body on display in their church because he believed that he was capable of bringing her back to life All right, that's not good according to alicia frankowitz who escaped the alamo compound at the age of 15 Quote she and other compound children were told if they prayed hard enough

Alamo's wife Susan who died from cancer after the compound moved to arkansas would rise from the dead Each day she did not awaken the children were beaten Whoa For every day. Yep though Though he is said to have lost it after his wife died That does not mean the Tony wasn't a total lunatic cult leader before then Tony employed a process of breaking down initiates and stripping them of their identity as survivor diane bach told oregon live

Quote you slept on the floor in a sister's room You didn't have beds a few of the chosen ones had beds, but you didn't His control relied on an insidious level of social shaming that kept people in line Never heard that one before again from diane bach quote They were told what to wear what to say what to think all meals were served in a cafeteria with no choices She said anyone could be publicly rebuked without warning and most of the followers lived in constant fear One day bach said she petted a llama on the grounds Soon an announcement came over the loudspeaker during a church service from susan the lamo who said there was quote

Something mentally wrong with bach for petting the llama Quote that was the message There was no explanation the rest of the prayer meeting was a blur The rebukement that others in the compound refused to interact with in any fashion with bach for several months That is brand new behavior for a cult. Yeah As time went on naturally, tony got more abusive in september two in september 2008 federal he didn't mellow No, no and september 2008 federal and state police raided a lamo's compound after receiving some complaints Uh, uh, uh and engaging in a two-year investigation

Remember the lamo accused of physically and sexually abusing children tony claimed that it was quote a hoax and when asked why he was being targeted he replied quote Why were they after jesus? It's the same reason jesus is living within me When the dust settled a lamo was arrested and convicted of 10 counts in a federal indictment accusing them of transporting minors across state lines For the purpose of sex he received 175 years in prison and died behind bars in 2017 somehow not long enough. No can we Put his body on display for six months and beat anybody near him pray. He doesn't come back Yeah, no shit the stories that came out in the investigation in the trial are the sickest of the sort of shit You always hear about cult leaders

tony a lamo is running an abuse factory where he would bring in young girls between the ages of eight and 16 and make them his Brides jesus christ in court his attorney appealed for mercy asking the court consider a lamo's good works to which one of his victims Jane doe number two said quote I can't believe you have the audacity to ask for mercy. What mercy did you ever show us? One day less on a fast maybe or 139 strikes with a board instead of 140. Did you ever once have mercy on an eight-year-old body? It's a quote from trial For one of his victims cool cool cool, man Thankfully us district judge harry barns was not interested in granting any leniency and he said quote

This court believes you should be incarcerated in federal prison for the rest of your natural life Someday you will meet a judge with higher authority than me may have mercy on your soul Earlier this year in 2018 two of the lamo's child brides came forward to share their stories And it's as bad as you would expect Amy eddy was 14 when she was forced to marry tony and pebbles rodriguez was 12 They lived as his brides for around a decade and were regularly beaten starved and raped Amy described her time in the court quote I was terrified that if I didn't do what I was supposed to do when he told me to do it no matter what it was

I'm going to hell Amy and pebbles were two of the young girls who were freed during the 2008 raid Which alex and his guests here on this show are trying to present to some instance of the government coming and stealing innocent people's children Because they refuse to get vaccines or were spanked by their parents So that's the way that he is presenting This serial child rapist. Yep As somebody who lightly spanks people I almost think

That alex doesn't really care about the victims now. Here's where here's where things get real messy alex repeatedly already in the shit that we've listened to has said he's looked into this He said he's studied it because people have been telling him for a year to look into this He's claiming that if if he's looked into it at all he would find like the the arrest and the raid was in 2008 We're in 2009. We're in march 2009 here. A lot of this information has come out Now granted he hasn't he's not sentenced until september of 2009 But a lot of this information has come out and the children who were taken out were fucking rescued These are people like if you listen to amy and pebbles

They're telling of it. It was a being saved If you listen that you hear the accounts from other even adult members of the church who managed to escape It's the sort of thing that has lasted the the rest of their lives They're like 50 year old people who still can't make choices Because of the brainwashing and the abuse that they suffered at jonia lamo's hands It's an entire it's all this church was about it was about him stealing all of their money And mentally fucking over and abusing all of these people. Yeah, you had a harem of child brides. That's fucked up Totally fucked up. Yeah, like I hate to continue saying that like i'm against the death penalty

But some guys just gotta fucking go You got it. You can't you can't no You just just know like you're not a member of the human race. Goodbye And if you're a truth teller if you're someone who's doing a radio show where you purport to have like all the best information You can't you cannot allow some guest to blindside you and make you endorse the alamo church No, because you know what he's endorsing child fucking rape. Yes all the shit all the pedophile rings all of that shit He's actually supporting a guy who runs a fucking pedophile ring. Yep Alex jones. Alex jones straight up is endorsing tonia lamo

Yeah, man, I told you it was going to be one of the worst things that fucking christ now to make it even worse Jesus, I want to go back to find the cult leader that my parents lived with fucking murder that I thought you were gonna say I want to go back to the watchman. No, well, I kind of want to go back to the watchman I have a lot of thoughts. So jordan uh during a lamo's trial self-indulgent at times dan During a lamo's trial quote across the street antavia mages a former follower held a sign which read you reaped what you sewed No mercy Meg's three children ages four five and six were last seen in the custody of john and jennifer colbeck John colbeck is a fugitive who's wanted for allegedly beating kids and adults at a lamo's bidding

He one of the former members of the church kidnapped three of this lady's children And then just she's not seen them since he's a fugitive on the run So alex's entire story that he's telling about the idea that the government came and kidnapped these people's children When they were rescuing child brides of a cult leader it actually when you dig a little bit deeper into the story You find that that cult Did kidnap people's children He's on the exact wrong side of this Did he get caught

Tony a lamo no no the guys. I don't have a I don't have a follow-up on that. I'm sorry. I just I hope you can't wait to fucking hope he did our our fucking our our posse's still allowed Can we get a posse together? Is that what we do what you need to do is you need to go out and do we get fucking horses? You need to go out in public with a big boombox like your radio raheem Uh and just play uh beer for my horses, but oh that'll do it. That'll do it really nelson And they'll all come running posse shows up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got all the rope in texas find a tall oak tree Hang a ball in bad boys for the people to see Hey, you just

In your daily life, you just don't believe that these monsters are real totally and these monsters are fucking real Totally. This is a real Totally it's it's it's very fucked up to like realize that these people exist And then it's further fucked up for me to go about my business doing this show and learning so many horrible things Yeah, about alex jones and then stumble into on the show where he's fucking hilariously say say ozzy bandamist a bunch And then at the end how do you how do you do both? How how do we do both dad on the same episode? I'm waiting for you to sue me for ptsd in three years like this is my fault. This is fucking It you can't

You can't how do you do this? I just don't understand like isn't that why we're so fascinated by serial killers and call leaders and by alex jones is like What what happened that broke a human brain to the point where now it is completely divorced from any concept of empathy or or even sympathy just just mentally Non-existent just a pure creature of of self interest I don't understand it now. It's even more fucked up is I don't think that's a fair assessment of what alex is doing Like I really don't I don't think at the end of this episode him

um talking to this guy And accidentally or intentionally endorsing tonia lomo I don't think he's acting in self interest I think he's trying to cover his lack of awareness about anything I think he's trying to spackle over how stupid he is by pretending that he knows about this actual case Yeah, he doesn't know shit about this If he actually did know anything about it, he would absolutely not be on board with this I don't know

I don't know You know what I want to I want to say I want to believe you I genuinely do I want to believe that That what you're saying makes sense, but the more we learn about alex the more it's like he'll defend anybody who owns the Who like I can't exist outside of what the liberals want you to believe And even if that includes fucking child, it's fine I find it so impossible to believe that that uh societal taboo would be something that he would be okay with like I

and then maybe that's Just my my feeling that there's that sliver of humanity left in him, but I might be wrong too. I don't know I don't know I think it's more likely that he's just fucking stupid and he expected to talk about just vaccine bullshit with this guy And he brings in the alamo stuff and alex can't show ass on air and be like I have no idea what you're talking about Right, or just be like let's rebook. I have more thoughts about ozzy mandamus. Yeah, let's just go with that or something Yeah, I I think I don't remember when he bit the head off of a bat. Yeah I think he's I think it's probably

Mostly posturing I think yeah, but that might be the most optimistic reading that's possible So we now know about once again the stupid evil continuum becomes a uh fucking fraught conversation Yeah, so uh in this next clip i'm gonna skip this one It just makes it clear that this greg pound guy is a part of the alamo ministries Oh, he is yeah, so this greg pound guy is actually in the game on it appears. So yeah I can't say a hundred percent, but based I'll play this clip I'll let you see what I mean the way he's phrasing things There's a lot of inclusive language when he talks about the group which he never directly says i'm a part of this group

But it it feels like he's expressing um communion Alice I want to thank you for being there because every time I've called you have opened this Your your program up in order for us to cry out as parents I mean, I haven't seen my kids now for over a year. This has gone on for four years for three years We could only see him one hour a month. You should never see your fucking kids again A ministry's dot com and look at they put on their website

The stipulations when they go to visit their kids what they can and can't say they can't whisper to their children They can't and this is what they're doing They're isolating the parents from the children and if they destroy our families. We have no nations You should be smoking in jail. There's no nothing and they're clearly targeting christians everywhere, particularly this is persecution So I don't know what to do with this greg guy I hate him, but I don't know what to do with him. I don't know what box to put him in um in terms of him being like a facilitator between alamo and alex or

actually Dan i'm gonna go with coffin on this one. I'll tell you what box to put him in dan I can't find any information about greg pound on the internet either. So I tried to look into who is this guy I can't find shit about him. That's probably a pseudonym. He was born What uh bernie Whatever uh hoffman. Yeah, so in this next clip alex. I think that he should have started the interview with this and then not Continued the interview ever and then also not said what he says at the end of this clip Greg, you know a lot of times

When you call us it's it's such short notice. We need to really you know make sure that next time you come on I specifically know Everything we're going to be covering. Uh, but give us the alamo ministries a side again and recap anything else you want to cover Well, if alamo ministries dot com and if you just go there and study this ministry It's hard to believe that they can take 37 children out there and then have a pickup order for 120 more It's not it's not hard to believe at all. It's very gracious It's the best thing they could do for these poor fucking kids So here's the last here's the last clip we're probably but the thing is like alex saying when you come on

You gotta let me know what we're gonna talk about. Hey, that's good. You should go with that. Yeah go with that Yeah, stick on that and it wow you're sort of tacitly admitting that you don't know what you're talking about Don't then allow this guy to plug a lamo ministries Don't don't do that. You don't know what you're letting this guy plug And then alex says this Come your masters of wall Stalin Hitler Mal they all go after the children The state always tries to take over the future

Angela and others, uh, what i'm gonna do is Greg bringing you up. What I need to do is Get like an hour and a half with you and pastor tony alamo Of alamo ministries on i've been meaning to cover this There's just so many cases of them grabbing children or harassing churches and it's been proven that they've made Almost everything up and now they're saying they're taking the children over vaccines I want to do justice to this instead of it just being all over the map. So, um You know, um, I mean, I would guess you've talked to pastor alamo

Alex the church is like a sleeping giant and if the church doesn't wake up in america I mean if you could tap into the church and get the church woken up I mean, I mean this battle will be no, I understand that we don't have a lot of time left I'm saying can we set up a longer interview with you guys? Yeah, yeah, that'll work. That's that sure Are we uh, we still doing this nope I mean that speaks for itself man. That's the that's disgraceful. It's awful Um, I don't know what else to say other than uh, alex through uh, whether intentional or just through his own stupidity is Running a propaganda, uh, pr front for

a guy who marries kids Oh, also, you're not gonna get that hour-long interview with him because that guy is in jail So well, you could always go visit him with a fucking pencil or crayon. Yeah crayon Yep, christ. Yeah, I know that's a real bummer deflating that is thing to end this episode with How do you how do you do that? This is why the show is still like how do you fucking do it? This is why the show in 2009 for me is so Interesting as opposed to in the present in the present. We're seeing the self-destruction of someone who I do think is kind of dangerous to himself And it's not really fun. It's harder to laugh at him and it's still hard to laugh at him like promoting a sex cult

Uh, that's that's abusing children. I'm fine with the sex cult It's the the abusing children part. That's the issue. Agreed. Agreed any kind of swing and sex called Hey, hey Um, it's it's tough, but call that Tuesdays at the same time. This is a fascinating show You know, archeologically Anthropologically looking back at this. This is incredibly fascinating the way he can set out to Deconstruct watchmen get everything wrong with it Come up with a bunch of other bullshit along the way

Try and sell some water filters and then stumble like mr. Magoo ass backwards into endorsing A child things that he is ostensibly most against. This is a fascinating Time for him. I don't I don't know how else to put it. This is crazy. I mean that that is It is interesting to watch him be wrong about everything always Like this episode is maybe is maybe the most wrong He's been for a contiguous period of time. Well, the most with no with no redeeming

Anytime we've talked about him. There's been one month. There's been like one moment where you're like, yep You know what? You're not wrong about that. Why you're not wrong about it is wrong But you're not wrong about it. And then this episode is like he's an unrepentant piece of shit ignorant bastard And it's so fun because it's so many different kinds of wrong, you know, like it's It's like he's trying to bat for the cycle within an episode like trying to get a single double Run is wrong trying to be wrong on every on every count. It's crazy. It's it's I mean, you know, it it hurts it hurts your humanity to some extent to hear this sort of thing But at the same time like just from my end

I would do this all day As opposed to talking about him in the present. So so but but uh, Greg pound. Yeah has been on before Yeah, but I've not heard it So he hasn't been on in the 2008 or 2009 episodes that I've listened to right so so that means that Alex was aware of alamo ministries, right? He has to have been on some level But I don't know we can't say for sure if Greg pounds other appearances have had to do with uh, alamo or not Yeah, I'm convinced it's a lamo. I've read that the uh,

The emphasis on the second syllable But a lamo. Yeah, but I think I know but it's hard not to say alamo Alex is also being tricked by his love of colonel travis. Yeah, of course and the alamo. He's like, oh, they named it Tony alamo. Tony alamo. Well, I gotta defend this fucking guy. You can't be wrong. Yeah That's just science So, yeah, I mean, I think other times he's been on he's probably talked about more Like cps has taken kids kind of narratives Vaccines are being forced on people. Yeah stuff. That's more germane to alex's bread and butter whereas this

I mean the way that alex said even in that clip like you gotta let me know what we're gonna talk about ahead of time Yeah, that indicates to me that that's even a departure a little bit from what the two of them usually talk about It indicates to me that alex is a little bit uncomfortable, but not I think the uncomfortableness is he he recognized he's being taken off guard. He's slightly out of his depth He can't speak with authority about Um, alamo ministries. Right. All right. Use his normal platitudes. Right. He can't bring up like document 501 Be right or nine or pdd 50. Yeah. Yeah. I know about this church and I'm going to stand on Yeah, you can't grandstand at all. He has to sort of play passive

Um, he's like he's out of position to use poker terminology You know, it's just it's weird to me. It's weird and it's super weird on this level of like You look at this 2009 stuff He's not playing good defense, but he has the instinct to play defense. Yeah, you know a little bit. Yeah. Yeah And that's fascinating. The psychology is very I don't know. It's just uh I don't know what I don't know what to say because I feel like I feel like anything bless you I feel like anything I say is too close to like

Intellectualizing this horror That is the end of this episode. I don't want to do that. I think that is that is part of the the uh, the pitfall of the The detachment of 10 years or whatever. Yeah, you know, like we're not talking about if alex was doing this in present day Right, it'd be I don't I don't know. I don't know how right like I'm already fucking furious. Yeah, you know like but but With a distance of 10 years, you're like, well, I mean, of course he defended a child rapist like what that doesn't make sense at all But yeah It's it's a rational detachment. Oh

Yeah, not not not it's not a one-to-one parallel, but yeah might as well be it's uh, I mean Jesus these fucking guys man. Yeah, it's wild. These fucking guys. It's fucking wild. They're everywhere All right, jordan. Let's end this. Uh, oh, yeah. Yeah, this is uh, this has been Fun and not fun as is the case with all of our episodes We leave both simultaneously and separate. Yeah. Our brand is hilarious. No No No, no, no, no, no, no There's not a lot of shows that can go from ozzy mandamus to

Child rapists are good. Like that's that's hard to do right. Hey this guy who uh, Mary's children is being persecuted because some parents spanked a kid hard to do Charles Manson had some good ideas. That sounds like me. Uh, he was an environmentalist Our website is knowledge fight.com. Do you guys want to check that out? We have some stuff there more coming in the future There's there's a lot that will be there soon Are there places where you could find us that you could not perhaps find alex jones? Twitter you could that knowledge underscore fight. Yep. Facebook Facebook. You were there. There's a group Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. Indeed. Uh, you can go to iTunes. We're on the store

If you would like to support the show too, you can go to website knowledge fight.com click that support the show button We'd appreciate it. I'm sick and tired of selling my blood. I'll still do it until like I don't have to you know, but uh, I was in there today and I texted you about this jordan. There was a Real aggressive conversation going on about the bill cosby sentencing that I did not appreciate There were just people yelling about how he's innocent. Oh boy And uh, I believe the choice quote was they're never going to lock up Weinstein because that guy's a jew I don't know. I don't know if this is a reverse pes dispenser. I don't know what's going on here It was just wild. It was very aggressive and anti-women the uh conversation that was going on over there at the blood center

Can't imagine a group of dudes being anti-willed. Damn it. It was very uncomfortable. Um, but if you want to support the show, please do If you want to support the show you're going to need to because that's the only way we're going to get Weinstein locked up Apparently, sure. Also, you know, it's hard to say what's worse about alex. Is it uh, sort of being a public relations guy for a Child marrying cult or is it the fact that we always need to remind people that he probably technically killed a dude Andy and chan's us. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex, I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you