Knowledge Fight - #211: March 10, 2009

Episode Date: September 28, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the March 10, 2009 episode of The Alex Jones Show.  On this episode, Alex is really, really trying to make his audience excited about the upcoming release of the Obama Deception. Alex also lies a bunch about Canada, and responds surprisingly well to a caller who wants to deny the Holocaust on air.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan. Yeah, Dan. Yep. It was the last time you were in court. Last time I was in court No, I feel like the DMV is court-like No, it is not. It has the same. No, it is not. I felt like I was on trial Okay, well, you probably had to get a new ID and that was really frustrating. So that was like dealing with the state Yeah, so that's when I was

19 I got a DUI kind of thing. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I drank at a party And then as I was driving home from the party, I feel pretty bad about this But yeah, what are you gonna do? Yeah, no one got hurt, right? I was driving home and I'd left my coat at the party And you know, it's central, Missouri. Everybody drives drunk. It's it's I've you don't you don't need to preemptively defend your behavior unfortunate reality of like That sort of world that I was living in right and it's horrible. I look back on it like I'm glad Everyone survived for the most part. Well, the old joke is like we don't all have DUIs But we've all been eligible for one at one point or in our lives, you know when you're young and stupid

Yeah, exactly drank at this party. I left my coat there It was really cold outside and as I was driving home There was an area that's pretty far away from anything like any businesses or any any of that sort of stuff Uh-huh, and I hit some black ice on the road and I my car slid off the road into a ditch Yeah, and I tried to get the car out of the ditch. I tried to like reverse and all that I didn't have my coat. It was before I ever had a cell phone. And so I'm like shit. I need to get out of here What do I do? It's super cold. I looked around there was nowhere I could walk and so I was just like fuck it I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet on this. So I put my flashers on and signaled down a cop

Oh, man cop came and I was like, uh, look, I've had a few drinks You you are not good at a preemptive defense if that's your your opening line I knew that he was gonna give me some kind of sobriety test and odds are it might turn combative like I might Like I wasn't afraid of the cop or anything like that But I was like why what's the use of going through this right? So I just told him I've had I've had some drinks Let's let's take care of this He's like all right. So it took me down to the station I got you know got in trouble stayed there a couple hours

My dad came picked me up ended up having to go to court and the the cop who arrested me actually wrote a letter to the judge About how cooperative I was oh, that's so it actually worked to my advantage Everything and also it was a cop in Missouri. So he's like well, everybody drives drunk here He had maybe a little bit of that in him Yeah, but so he'd he'd written the judge on my behalf and it ended up becoming a civic infraction It wasn't even a misdemeanor charge Uh-huh because of the leniency of the court sure and what have you so I just ended up having to pay a bunch of money Take a DUI class and what have you yeah, and it was it was a horrible

Wake-up call some extent ever and never got behind the wheel of a car with any alcohol in my system after that really Yeah, I have not ever done that still not sense Well because the moment when my car slid off the road and I know it was because I hit this ice But it was so terrifying that moment of feeling like completely out of control It came so like viscerally imprinted on me because when I hit that ice I knew the ice was the problem. Yeah, but also I knew I'm too drunk to handle this right right So it was it was really eye-opening and terrifying and fun end to this story the cop who ended up arrested me Arresting me he ended up being the security guard at the movie theater that that's not real

Yeah, that's not real what a couple of years down wait what he was the security guard at the theater you manage later Right right. No, I got that it wasn't like Managing this movie theater and have off-duty cops as a security guard. Yeah, who should walk in but this cop who arrested me and We said hello shook. Yeah, he's like I remember you. I you know just it was really it was a treat to rest I Super cool nice. Yeah, my story of that ilk was I was actually in Like some some small town doing a show and it was only 25 minutes away from where I grew up middle of nowhere and I'm comedian drunk it's like 130 and

Driving drunk could be a bunch of different comedian comedian drunk to me on on like a road gig is that's buzzed or blackout Yeah, yeah, it's one or the other. Yeah, exactly. I'm I'm drunker than normal human being should be but it doesn't affect me as much right So I'm driving home ticket drunk. I'm exactly that's that's exactly. I ran out of drink tickets That's how drunk I was and I am driving home on the highway get off at the stop on my hometown It's and I I'm like looking around. It's two o'clock in the morning There is no cars for a million miles so I'm just like fuck this red light and I just take a left and start going and

Turns out directly behind me was a cop. He pulls me over immediately He pulls me over a meeting. He's like, what are you doing now? This is where being white was fantastic I would also like to say that I recognize the whiteness and oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, my story I'm very aware of how lucky I am and in that circumstance. Oh, yeah. No, this is far worse Here's what happened. He goes I Watched you just do that and I was like, does he not know there's a cop behind him? What's going on here? And I'm like You know, it's like 2 a.m. There's nobody driving and I really got a pee and he's like well Don't do that anymore. Let's me go ever again. Let's me go immediately like that was it

Yeah, so so in case you were wondering if white privilege was the thing. Yeah in both our cases Yeah, a little bit played a part tiny bit So that's not what this shows about it's about Alex Jones How I know a lot about him and I only know what you tell me about him that is correct Today we got an interesting bit of business to go over but before we get to today's episode I would like to take a step back from Alex Jones and from our stories of Run-ins with the police. Yeah, and to say thank you to a couple of new donors Jordan today first of all, I would like to say thank you to someone who has just joined up and supported the show

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We are still back in 2009 because I emotionally cannot handle the prospect of Listening to Alex Jones in the present now. I know I could tell you what he's saying I'm sure that these women who are accusing Kavanaugh or liars it's deep state operatives or some bullshit like that. That's a brand new take on it And I don't know how cool how we could not say how could we not top tackle that? Hot of a take that unique of a point of view on this particular circumstance I don't foresee anything that he's saying not coming back to some sort of dumb-ass deep state bullshit Yeah, the chai comms or something or it's just a conspiracy that the Clintons are putting together

I mean hell that's on Fox news or whatever Totally possible by the way So but the the the reason that I don't want to go into any of that is because I just don't feel like it's fertile territory I don't think what he's going to bring to the table is going to be in any way interesting And then we already know that his modus operandi now is being a multi-level marketing guy Who's on the brink of possible self-destruction? Yeah, and it feels ugly to look at it I don't I don't think that even though we are being critical. I still don't think that it's Good to look at that. I do. It's not good to give it attention

Is it would like to know what his ad pivots for the multi-level marketing scheme are though? Maybe we'll check in eventually and I'll try and sort that out. Yeah, I want to get a how do you? How do you even add pivot into the like all the everybody's coming to rape your children and easy if you want to become a Distributor of do nests products. You don't go with that They're coming for your children angle instead. You start to we you know how back in the 2008-2009 times so where we are so much of his stuff involves like they're going to crash the dollar Oh, here's Bob Chapman to help me sell right Anderson's gold. All right All right, so what you do is they're going to crash the economy. Yeah, you're gonna be unemployed

Yeah, here's one way you're not working for the man, right? You're working for you the globalists want to destroy the middle class. This is your ticket to the middle class Yeah, no, that's a good angle So he could do an ad pivot like that, which is why which is why I almost 100% guarantee he has not done that They wouldn't I Wouldn't come to it So on our last episode Boy, I did not expect for Ozzy mandamus to overtake

Life is very fragile in terms of the audience response, but man people loved the Ozzy mandamus life's very fragile So that was really fun that watchman review Really hit a lot of people close to home family a lot of graphic novel fans in our audience can't imagine why surprising Cloud did not kill air. So today. Yeah, we we jump in on March 10th 2009 and next day after He endorses the Tony Olamo sex cult where they're marrying kids Let's never speak of that and keep saying Ozzy mandamus. Okay, so we're on the next day now And I'll be honest with you when I started this episode. I fully expected him to come on air and be like

I didn't know about the Tony Olamo situation. I am so sorry. I Just went off half cocked without the information and I will say this Jordan He does make one retraction on this episode, but I will not tell you whether it has to do with Tony Olamo or not So let's start the episode somehow I feel like that's the most important one Endorsing the child rapist is bad. Yeah, but I mean Amos come on to grievous Linguistically So here we go. We're gonna start where Alex starts the episode. Is he gonna be talking about?

You know the tea party is he gonna be talking about the flu avian flu stuff that he's building up to is at the 10th amendment What is it going to be? We've been getting a lot of threats and a lot of Chicanery going on the enemy knows this is gonna be powerful and I will tell them now This film is going out. We trust in God and we know it's gonna make it out. We know it's gonna get it out I'm tempted to slam it in high gear and release it right now do it So this is 19 20 minutes into his broadcast and so far all he's been doing is promoting the Obama deception Oh, that's what he's that's which film he's talking. Oh, yeah, and there's chicanery going on

There's behind the scenes chicanery In what direction towards whom towards Alex, but he's very unspecific about it We're gonna we're gonna see where his head is at. He's saying he's tempted to release it now In fact, I may just release it do it release it right now do it Because this sucker is gonna blast the new world order Big time Is it gonna put them on blast and I want you when it goes up on google and youtube I want you to get it and I want you to put it on every myspace account every facebook account

I want every email list over and over again. I want it to be posted on every message board and forum out there I want it to immediately go mega viral supernova for free for me And then when these zombies come to your door, I want you to add deluxe copies ready for them And I want you to tell them this is the red pill, you know the matrix All I'm offering is the truth nothing more You've been betrayed bush and obama are evil Do you truly want to fix things? Do you truly want real change? Here's the red pill and then just shut the door

Countdown countdown In fact, that's it. We're launching early. Whoa. I can't control what happened I can't see you know what I mean in a way There's two schools of thought building up the momentum and then launching it on that date. I'll have to think about it Wait, what? I thought you just read you just dropped it. I had to think about it. What now? It's just uh, so much is going on so much is happening. The enemy is moving so quick. I want to drop now Like seven tracks right now. Yeah Should we release it now bombs away on the info war?

Or should we wait? Building up the momentum building up the big dynamos the servos the reactor core as the huge generators power up to fire A devastating blow against the globalist. This is still going. Oh, yeah. Wow all the way out to break

So 20 minutes feel like he pays sex workers to have To tape a copy of the od mama deception to their face while he says exactly that I could see them while he fucks That's disgusting. I could that was gross. Uh, so he's spent 19 to 20 minutes of the beginning of his show just pimping his documentary then announces We're going to run a fucking do this now because there's so much trouble behind this Well, maybe not there's something to be said for doing an ad campaign I don't know. What are we gonna do? But who knows? I'm right though. We know that much So that's a cool headspace

Not really discussing any news per se in the beginning news is hard Well, but this is 20 minutes of a four hour show I know that that's that's a whole lot of show that he has to do But still that's a big chunk of it just to dedicate to My dvd is coming out his dvd is coming out though and it might be coming out right now And my knobby and not only my knobby not only that but you better share it It better go mega viral mega mega viral. That's why he doesn't want people to take vaccines Then it won't go mega viral. Absolutely

So, uh, this next clip is one of the instances of like when I was listening to this episode It made me realize that I kind of like a lot of songs that I didn't realize I liked And it might just be because the juxtaposition with alex is like he sucks so much that I actually kind of like the police What do you mean you kind of like the police? How dare you? This is an s.o.s. The republic's been seized by offshore banks England Australia, new zealand, canada, the united states are falling to classic military tyranny

The coup d'etat has been launched a corporate takeover is near completion The people must be alerted to this fraud immediately or they're going to go into the next phase Total depression total implosion by design to cause worldwide rioting and bring in a world government They'll then turn the economy on for a time to sell everybody that globalism is the answer And then they will clamp down even stronger after that ladies and gentlemen Fight back against the banker onslaught with the obama deception order your dvds now At info wars.com and get ready so is it out release coming up this sunday evening at 6 p.m. Oh, now it's sunday. Yeah, apparently

Well, what day is it now? Friday I will tell you that right now Okay, so we're we're all over the map in terms of when this thing is going to come out But it's your best way to fight the bankers and the criminals who have taken over Also, I'd like to point out to the audience That jordan in the middle of that clip wrote down on his notepad steward copeland. Yeah with an exclamation exclamation point

Are you kidding me? I think the his drumming was fucking revolutionary. That's fine. It was spectacular I take that walking on the moon his hi-hat work Set the the gold standard. I think it's a little soft Not the drumming but their music as a whole. I never really liked it much I'm willing to believe that they're a better band than I realize or care to know But uh, I always compartmentalize them in real easy listening soft rock I'm right there with you if it weren't for stewart copeland. I'm I'm genuinely serious like anytime I listen to the police I'm always listening for what's steward for what steward to do because he wasn't a flashy drummer

He wasn't like doing fills left and right. The man was just fucking on point there enough on point. All right Technical superiority. So what we learned so far stewart copeland revolutionized drumming. Alex may put out the obama deception Immediately or it could be sunday or maybe friday or it could be friday. Who fucking knows There's a lot of production meetings going on on air right now But there's so much going on behind the scenes where he's being attacked He knows that he's got to get this out because it's the death blow to the global. It's gonna take him down Yeah, so that all is the first like anything going on in the real world though Well, we're about to get to it. Okay, but this is the first like 40 minutes of the show or something like that

It's it's interminable. He's talking about the obama deception 40 minutes and having seen the obama deception and knowing that Hey, boy, that did not take down the globalist and it was also interminable. Yeah, there's a little irony to that But now alex gets into a story. It's out of the the great white north Canada Okay, alex. Well, we can't have them on alex makes a number of really deeply problematic Errors in reporting this story Uh, and this is going to be avian flu all over again. Uh, but without 9 11 blogger. Canada was invaded by the chinese Look at this story

this is from prison Planet dot com and it is never linked to all the mainstream news backing up the claims we make here In fact, most this article is simply quotes from the mainstream news. Now listen to this carefully. It's not really good Is it and glenn beck says he doesn't know if the fema camps are real. Listen to this canadian military units to undertake domestic security Duties would include mass internment of citizens after terrorist attack mirroring militarization of law enforcement in u.s

And britain the canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit a post 9 11 world By creating reservists units for each area of the country that would be tasked with providing domestic security That's a quote and involves such roles as the mass internment of citizens in the event of a terrorist attack So that is a very aggressively worded measure if true. Well, we've got um, You know in another instance of alex just reading a paul joseph watson article right from prison planet And there are some quotes in this but there this is from maple leaf 9 11 blogger Might as well be so they're deeply there's a there's there's some very deep problems with this

The first of all is one thing I want to get into Is just a foundational problem with this line of thought The reason that american troops in the military can't serve domestic operations except for at the whim of the governor of Estate is because of the posse comatotus act which is american law not canadian now It applies to canadian the idea like the first amendment the idea that canada has the same laws as us is another hurdle That we're going to have to just get over from the jump Have they never heard of roam because they're pretending that we do have the same laws and that's that's a problem for their argument

so Canada does not have the same laws as america So their rules regarding troops operating domestically are a little different than ours In 1922 canada passed their national defense act which lays out the rules under which their military could operate According to section six of the national wait 1922. Yeah, so this is a little bit too recent for alex to know about it Well, I don't know. I mean Canada has such a super like a really interesting history in terms of when they broke away from the uk and when Yeah, which is never crown. Yeah, and there's so many gradients to like how autonomous are you? Yeah throughout history

But what did you guys do to the akkadians 1922 is when they passed this national defense act and according to section six of the national defense act and I quote The canadian forces any unit or other element thereof and any officer or non-commissioned member with material Are liable to be called out for service in aid of the civil power in any case In which a riot or disturbance of the peace beyond the powers of the civil authorities to suppress They're pretty clear that the civil powers can utilize commission persons for things that they feel that they can't handle on their own Section six even goes further to say the following quote Nothing in this part shall be deemed to impose liability to serve in aid of civil power without his consent on an officer or

Non-commissioned member of the reserve force who is by virtue of the terms of his enrollment liable to perform duty on active service Only people who are opposed to being used to assist with the request of civil authorities Have the right to refuse to take part if they want to they really yeah They don't even have to if it's like something really if it's like helping out after a flood or something like that They can just say I don't feel that's appropriate And they are not required to do that or if it's like a we need to shut down this riot and they're like no I think the riot is probably a good idea. They're like they're no they're not compulsed to do that under the national defense act of Canada I'm gonna say that they do not have the same laws that we do and it's very clear just from that

basic Foundation document of the canadian military that they Can be called out If the civil authorities deem a situation beyond their control, right? So now about this actual article that paul joseph watson wrote as is always the case Alex is just reading this post by paul joseph watson who's sensationalized an existing story to the point where alex can use it as fuel to scare his audience In this case, it's a story about some reorganizations going on in the canadian military The story comes out of the national post which is a conservative leaning paper out of toronto

If you pay close attention, you find the very specific points where paul joseph watson Intentionally blurs truth and lies in order to make uh his angle super nefarious The first is in his opening paragraph quote the canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit a post 9 11 world By creating reservist units for each area of the country that would be tasked with providing domestic security And involves roles such as the mass internment of citizens in the event of a terrorist attack That is what alex just read on the air and it is the first paragraph of paul joseph watson's article Yeah, but i feel like if that even if that were the case You wouldn't write it down

It'd be tough to do that because because i mean anybody who read that would be like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Interning citizens is usually the sign of a dictatorship or fascist government if you will well That's the thing nowhere in the article He's purporting to cover does the canadian military discuss mass internment of civilians This is just paul joseph watson's own assertion being passed off as reporting The closest the article comes to supporting that idea at all is quote the units will include perimeter security teams Prepared to cordon off an area if there was an atomic detonation Nuclear accident or similar source of wide contamination and arctic response groups that are trained and equipped to live and operate in the far north

There's a big big difference between mass internment and units trained to cordon off a dangerous area to contain fallout or an outbreak Right, right, right, which is what is being described in this article It's a very basic thing where you're is getting specialized teams of people in the places They need to be in case something like that were to happen right when he talks about the post 9 11 world paul joseph watson referenced in his In his opening paragraph, there is a guy who said the like Yeah, after that after 9 11 we all sort of realized that we need to pay more attention to domestic security And I don't think that that's some nefarious code or anything like that. I think that's just oh shit that could happen here

Hey, uh, we do think that it's a good idea for the military to be involved We're there to be some sort of Uh nuclear attack that resulted in the genetic mutations of zombies And so we would allow them to cordon off the area make sure that everybody was safe Shoot some zombies in the head even require even take zombies out of the equation. It's still just like yeah Why wouldn't you cordon off an area? Now I just got a mental picture of a bunch of mounies with like police tape do not cross and a giant atomic crater Dudley do right

Trying to cordon off an area so we can get snidely whiplash Yeah, I I mean, yeah, that's terrible So the way paul joseph watson deals with this problem that the text itself doesn't say anything about mass Incarcerations of civilians and does just talk about cordoning off an area We're there to be a disaster the way he deals with it is by filling his article with his own spin This isn't based on anything other than his own perception and as we've seen so many times in the past Paul joseph watson does not have a good internal compass He's a psychopath from his article quote

Of course the necessity of the change is dressed up by using the notion of troops helping people in the event of earthquakes floods and nuclear Accidents, but we also learned that one of the duties that the reservists would potentially undertake would be mass internment of civilians in camps Or quarantine zones after a biological terror attack That is completely of his own design. That's his own Interpretation he's making that up right that is not in the article the idea of the quarantine zones is something you could extrapolate from The article but the mass internment camps for citizens is just completely his own invention So we see this again like the last time with the avian flu release He was lying based on lies of 9 11 blogger in this case

He's just taking an article and making stuff up about it. Yeah, and then alex is reading it on air What does he fucking do like this like now i'm like he does alex a really important no, but i mean like like what is he What is he doing? like On a day-to-day basis like this dude wakes up in the morning reads bullshit Or reality and then just sits around being like well, how can i write 500 words of that are evil about this? Fairly innocuous thing. Yes

No 100% he gets up He gets up scans the news and probably tries to find a few things that fit in with alex's narratives Yeah, repackages them as posts on prison planet because alex can't do that work on his own He can barely read no, of course So he does that for alex alex can then take the prison planet article and read it because it's Pre-sensationalized yeah, and now he has content for his show whereas if alex had to read this article out of the national post He'd have a much more difficult time with it because there are explanations For the things that they're trying to right exactly. Does he work for alex?

PJ dubs. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Really? Yeah. Yeah, has he quit yet? In present day. Yeah. No because that would be a smarter move. No. No. He's bail. He's bail You've got your own brand now fucking bail on it. We've talked about this a hundred times unless alex owns prison planet In which case he does. Oh, okay. Well, then he's fucked. Yeah alex had prison planet going And paul joseph watson was the editor-in-chief of it and then he took it on as his moniker and got you twitter handle and all that But I believe alex if he's you know what alex is very dumb But if he's not the biggest idiot in the world, he would have retained rights to yeah, no, no, absolutely That's a big giveaway. Yeah, you want to make sure that pj dubs goes down with you

Yeah, so the pj dubs goes on to use a quote from the article to jump to an unrelated conclusion um, so this is from uh, His his article Oh, i'm sorry This is a quote from the actual article and then he follows it up with some analysis Gotcha quote the remodel quotes heavy. Yeah scare quotes heavy under analysis The remodeling of the reserves will see the development of specialist units in four of the military's regional divisions atlantic, kebek Ontario and the west now his analysis

This is an open announcement. The canada has been subdivided into military units and will be And will be policed by military reservists That's a joke. This is not an open announcement of anything of the sort if you pay close attention to the language in the actual quote This is a development of specialist units units in Four of the military's regional divisions. These regional divisions already exist This is just an implementation of teams specifically trained in dealing with catastrophes that did not seem likely before But have entered people's minds now in 2009. Hey, so you know these guys who are trained to go do this one thing Right. Well, there's this new thing. Maybe we should train specific guys who are doing that new thing

And then the guys who are doing that old thing, you know, that way the guys who are just used to doing one thing Don't just do that one thing to the people suffering from the new thing. Yeah. Yeah So that's pretty simple. That's most of what's wrong with this prison planet article and alex jones Take on it and his his fear mongering that he's trying to do with it Um, but he's not done alex isn't done talking about it yet. But now you know the facts. Yeah We are trying to establish a perimeter said brigadier general john collin I do like a do i see a scenario and we might Be obliged

To keep people in probably Oh probably Let me read what the brigadier general said do I see a scenario? Well, we might be obliged to keep people in probably Plus quote you need to be trained to be able to make sure that you don't become a casualty in the process of doing security That's another quote They don't want to be a casualty when they're dealing with the canadian people So that

Quote that he's using is in the original article, but it's not really even in context in the original article Yeah, but if I were to read that sentence, he's like this brigadier general is saying Do I see a situation when we might need to keep people in somewhere possibly? I would respond. So do I yeah, so do I all right? So somebody set off a smallpox bomb right and instead of just letting people run all willy-nilly giving everybody smallpox not even smallpox bomb accident Yeah, absolutely accident. There's a contagion that you need to contain We got to quarantine people because you know, everybody's gonna die. This is like a serious situation

Yeah, so we want to train people to not them themselves get the smallpox right which would cause the that would Render the whole point moot, right? Yeah, so that quote he's trying to make it sound so nefarious, but it's not really It's basically just the idea of Containment. Yeah, you know, I don't see any way around this like I don't I don't trust the powers that be in the world or anything like that But you need better than this giving people smallpox is a first amendment, right, dan You need better than this if you're gonna make these arguments about this proving prison internment camps and shit like that Yeah, I need I need more from you. Yeah, that that would never be allowed in our constitution

No Anyway, in this we would never have internment camps and this next clip alex talks more about the canadiens and how they have a horrible plight And then he gets back to what he really wants to be doing on this show, which is lazily promoting the obama deception Meanwhile, canadian military units prepare To put their citizens in FEMA camps and for the military to patrol the streets of canada Openly being announced as it's openly being announced in every other western nation Being overtaken by the private banking syndicate the criminals You know I began plugging the obama deception explosive release coming up

This weekend you got bored in the middle of your own story even give out the toll free number I believe I hope everybody will call and order the dvd now At 8882533139 make sure to share it on my face 8882533139 And I want you to get the dvd and I think like rob do just hit him with a blow dart with some ether Something like that because he is like listen to this listen to the tone of this voice So it's what 888 wants to make copies of it and get it out to everyone, you know, don't call it And when these obama zombies come to your door promoting their new world Oh, is it okay launching them to do

You can give them the obama deception, which is a red pill to get them out of the matrix It is a rope a ladder to help them get out of the muck of mind control And bondage that they're in Oh boy long exhale That like when he's starting to yell there about rope and bondage and stuff like that That's the equivalent of like a guy who's in like a fight and like his arm has gone numb And so he punches his own arm to try and get the feeling back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on. Come on. That's sort of come on You still got this. He's got this in you. He's yelling to try and excite himself. It's just not working

It's just oh bad. Wow. Yeah It's it's it's a bummer when alex is bored by his own propaganda and his own sales Yeah, he's bored by both of them. He clearly recognizes one how weak his bullshit is and then because it's so weak He's like, I mean, I I guess well The obama deception is coming out and then call our toll free number My favorite thing there is that we're not even an hour into the episode the alex's episode And you now have the second time that he's insinuated that obama zombies are going to show up at your door And you need to have obama deception dvd is ready to give them

He he's going to say it even more you missed an opportunity to say obama's and i'm out. No, he says obama noids Oh, he says obama noids. That's his phrase. I prefer obama's. It's not bad, but I think it's too vague It's not specific enough. I wouldn't I wouldn't hear that and then be like, oh, that's a zombie obama Oh baraco bombies Still not good. Okay, fine. You need the z in there for zombies Omby's doesn't that doesn't make me think of zombies. What does it make you think of? Uh bar bombs kind of yeah, um, I can see that so now what's interesting about this sex. Oh, bar bombs There we go. Is that a tom jones reference? No, it's a scott pilgrim versus the world reference sex bomb sex bomb

Oh sex bomb is a tom jones song sex bomb is a tom jones song That's why I sex bomb. Stop it. All right I'm sorry now when alex gets bored I start going crazy his hell So, um in his next clip we realize that this canada story isn't really quite done And that's because a couple days earlier paul joseph watson had written another story about the military in canada And he references it in his new article the one that alex was just going over So alex brings that up by virtue of covering this story and that one's actually even more interesting Finishing up with this article

The story dovetails of the report out of ontario where authorities are Considering using trips and then it admits in the article. They're already doing it The local army base patrol bar areas on weekends. You're for stopping drunks. Are you see same thing being done in the u.s The Marines are here at the checkpoint to stop drunks. You're not for drunks. Are you we got to do something about the drunks? Meanwhile, they admit. Oh and by the way, we'll put you in fema camps. We're just getting you ready Using trips from the local army base patrol bar areas on weekends and supposed attempt To prevent rowdiness So

This is really interesting because after going on a bunch having a bunch more glaring reporting errors paul joseph watson then links uh back to this story that alex is now referencing from six days prior But the militarization of the canadian police and he is a hundred percent wrong about this. What alex is Alex is woefully misunderstanding this story The version he's telling is that these troops from a nearby army base are being used in the city of barry Because the drinking spots in that town are out of control and they need the military to come in and police them In reality, if you review the toronto star article that paul joseph watson is basing this post on the story is very different According to the star quote city police and camp boarding officers are discussing using joint street patrols to help keep the peace

And barry's busy entertainment district on peak weekends The military police would deal only with their own personnel and not civilians in barry barry police chief Wayne frichette said quote. I think soldiers would be less inclined to cause trouble if they knew would come up with their bosses on monday morning Oh That actually makes a lot of sense. It's like, uh, I don't know say there is an american army in some sort of country and instead of being allowed to uh, I don't know Rape and pillage to their hearts content. They were, uh, supervised by some sort of uh, uh, over

Yeah, yeah, that might have that might have helped so in many many many many historical situations One of the things that i'm super excited about and really interested in is deconstructing how paul joseph watson is lying Back in 2009 because it's really interesting how he misuses sources Like what we found with the avian flu thing with the 9 11 blogger the sort of game of telephone He's using with sources. Yeah, um, it's really interesting to see how like there's no way He's not doing this intentionally right there. There's absolutely no chance And one of the things that makes me realize that is that he does take a quote from this toronto, uh, star article I can't remember if it's sun or star these papers. Just call yourself the pick of you

Wait, every paper is called the pick of you. It's fun. It's better. It is fun. I'm not gonna get it Make confused with anything else. I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you Um, so he uses the first half of a quote and doesn't use the second half Which invalidates the first half. Oh, listen to this. Oh, god So this is the part that paul joseph watson does include quote in addition Joshua abel a berry bartender told the star that he'd not heard any reports of military personnel starting trouble However, the part that paul joseph watson neglects to include is the end of abel's comment quote on the other hand If they are in civilian clothes, how would you know whether or not they're in the military? Oh my god

How do you leave that part out because you're trying to make the other point? You're trying to trick people, right? So of course you don't leave the part of the quote That's like I wouldn't know if they were military to begin with right He's trying to present the idea that there is no military Rowdy-ness problem that military police could help keep in line It's all just about the fascist state coming in and tyranny and fema in canada Yeah, I was I was I wrote down like does canada even have fema? I can't it's a federal Emergency management. Uh, that's so so that that puts us squarely in the belief that

uh pjdubs Does not have some sort of paranoid schizophrenia. He might also he is a direct liar. It might be both It could be both. I don't know why you can't have six one half a dozen for the other That's possible. That's possible. You're not wrong. I think you could have a latent uh paranoia that you choose to use You know how a lot of uh Stand-up comics are super mentally unhealthy and they use that as their advantage. No, what? Huh? Yeah, damn How dare you? I think there might be something something like psychiatrists would disagree with you because I think at this point after So many years, uh, and so much damage done if paul joseph watson wasn't slightly crazy

Yeah, I think he would recognize like I gotta stop this But that might just be me painting him with a little more humanity Yeah, we all thought the same avan song seemed so suki. So so that's a concrete example of him taking this Story and completely lying to in order to make his own point Yeah, and then it needs to be further reinforced that That is totally on that's fine under canadian law If the like the police in berry decide that like we could use some help from these troops Yeah, it is well within the law for them to just do that

That's not a problem So all of this is a hot load of nothing, but The reason that alex is kind of like He's pretend I I feigned a little bit of ignorance when you're like, what is he talking about fema in canada? Yeah, it's because he kind of thinks that mexico canada and america are already the north american union And oh, okay, and also he kind of thinks that we all are subject to the queen of england Oh, I do not know that at least in 2009. I believe he does think that based on this next clip And we are under the queen's control

Well, I can see why you think that An unprecedented act by a u.s president They're publicly nighting the last gaggle of crooks that left the bush administration The move is upon us military And financial dictatorship over our beloved republic. Oh, man We are in trouble that happened quick. We are in trouble because the queen is in charge Obama is gonna kneel before her which is an unprecedented sort of thing. I mean you might have uh president bush kissing a saudi prince hand and

I would guess that I would guess that other presidents have knelt before the queen before I I don't know that to be true I also don't care if they do. Yeah I I I don't give a shit. So So this whole queen character. Yeah, she controls everything that everything she controls everything Oh, so I have bad news. What's that? Uh, unless the bush people that alex is referring to were british citizens. Technically, they can't be knighted That's he's saying that all these bush. No, I think he was talking about the people from australia From the bush. They still they're still under

They could totally be knighted can't they? Yeah, I think australians can't be knighted I think that well from what I understand is that if you're not a british citizen So I guess if you lived in australia and you were a british citizen, I don't know how that works I don't know how that works either. I'm not an expert on that. Fuck that part Don't don't hold that against me if I pass But if you're not a british citizen, you can just get an honorary title Which allows you to put the suffix kbe after your name But you aren't knighted and you cannot call yourself sir

In 2009 ted canady and john warner were giving the honorific title at kbe The latter might be seen as a bush guy, but calling ted kennedy that is pretty much a big stretch Before that it was five years since an american and politics was named kbe and that was uh robert wooster In 2002 from birdie and wooster. Yep birdie, of course short for robert In 2002 allen greenspan and rudy juliani got the honors of being named kbe Really? Well, he was america's mayor. Yeah, I think he was he was he was really shiny Can they take that back interestingly they can can they they haven't from rudy juliani

But it turns out the awarding of these honorary titles has not always gone great For example in 1923 they awarded one to bonito musilini That's probably not great. Then they annulled that title in 1940 or uh one time they gave a nicolai chuchescu Uh one chuchescu got one in 1978 Yeah, chuchescu got god damn it. They annulled that one in 1989. This is why we can't have the queen Running things dan or that one time they gave an honorific title to robert mugabi I was actually going to say did they give it to mugabi? That was gonna be my joke that was gonna be my joke answer to that. Jesus christ 1994 they gave mugabi the same

kbe title they annulled that one in 2008 Uh no real evidence that any new bush players have been awarded these titles and uh to present day even Even obama administration people haven't been given them Yeah, i'm fine with all of that. We got bono We got angelina joe lee. We got steven spielberg. Oh, that's right. Bono isn't a british citizen. No, gotcha That's the cool. That was foolish of me And uh, I I it took me a second That's the cool thing about these titles though, too

If you aren't a british citizen and you get one and then later you become a british citizen You're automatically a knight Oh, really? Is that how that works? You become a sir if you become a citizen later. No shit a bunch of people have done it God damn it. Giuliani get on that shit. You got to go. Nobody wants you here. Yeah, you got to get out become a knight Uh, that's a really good excuse to become a british citizen. I bet if you fucked around and tried that they would probably Annull it. Yeah, or or you would get a triple double. Yeah, so, uh, this is all great. Oh, Has ice cube gotten a kbe? No, but uh, kevin spacey did in 2015 I

Assume is just That one's going to be taken away pretty quick. You got to assume Christ the thing though is like specifics of the people who are given them are people who have some sort of a relationship to Britain, right? You know, they have they have some sort of like i'm sure with kevin spacey It was through some sort of acting uh, shakespearian sure fine, you know and humanitarian things with like angeline a joey and bono Right, so right, you know, you have you have And of course the willingness to wear sunglasses at all hours of the day

They have well if that was the case, kory heart would be a kory heart is a knight Uh, so look they they've misfired a number of times to say the least wait. Hold on the british monarchy is misfired How could you imagine such a situation? I mean moosalini chachasco in mcgabbit is a murderous row That is a literal murderous row. It's bad But at the same time each of them had a moment when it didn't look like they were going to be as bad as they were Right like on song suki, right? Yeah. Yeah, she got a Nobel Peace Prize And a lot of people's point of Of history before they break terribly, you know, they go way in the wrong direction

Right, there's that glimmer of hope and that look of like this might work out Maybe if we give somebody the peace prize, they won't commit a genocide and that's just not Been the case That's just not been the case. So Now we get to about the hour point in the show. I only know that because Alex comes back from break right at about an hour and he's got the doctor Ron paul. Oh wait, Ron paul is on this one? Ron paul for real Ron paul. Why are you surprised by that? I don't know. I haven't seen

I don't think we've ever done an episode where Ron paul is on you bet we have Okay, fair enough. It's been a long time since we've done an episode where Ron paul is There have been a number of times too. I think when he's been on and I've just been like, who gives a shit? Because it's just his standard, uh, sort of fair a lot of the time when he's on He does this like Sort of a steve pacenic role here in 2009 in some ways steve pacenic is not back on the scene until I think 2012 I think he's laying low in So like in at this point too many hurricanes around at this point

Alex has got narratives that he wants reinforced and he wants someone who has some sort of external authority and credibility To get his back So he'll have Ron paul on and he'll just be like, what about this x y or z thing is like, well, yes, absolutely That's something we need to be concerned about but let's run at the fed Yeah, okay, back to auditing the fed Basically, didn't they do that? They do they do uh regularly they do a pretty way that they want them to pretty sure bernie was uh Instrumental and getting the fed audited right now. Interesting. You should but he's he's definitely a bad guy

Interesting. You should bring that up. Ron paul has an interesting take on bernie sanders in 2009 It's a good issue. So like so many of our issues we bring different factions together liberal and conservative under the constitution Because if you're a good honest liberal like uh, bernie sanders, uh, he he's an honest person But he's very very liberal and calls himself a socialist So alex even is like, yeah, he's an honest person But he's very liberal as if those two things are shocking to have next week. That's that. Yeah, sorry I just couldn't help but notice that according to alex's

John birch society. None dare call it conspiracy roots Socialism is a trick to get you into communism, which is authoritarianism So the very idea that he has ron paul on his show saying he's great, you know, he's a good kind of liberal He's a socialist, but he's a good good kind of guy is an invalidation of the idea that socialism is a trick to get you into communism Because even if he agrees with you on auditing the fed you can't fucking sign up with this guy Who's trying to trick everyone into authoritarianism? Absolutely not. No, so It's all Bumpus the enemy of my enemy is still a fucking monster trying to get us into communism right and alex is

Uh, this saint he's on the same page as ron paul. He's very pro bernie sanders in 2009 Because he's uh working for transparency with the fed in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis so it takes a Really strong propaganda effort to get you to not be on board with bernie sanders like his his message is Really kind of universal unless you're a billionaire. Like there's no there's no if you're just like a regular person. There's no like Oh, I hate him because he wants health care for me And he he wants to be he wants the rich to pay more taxes than me and there's a he's a oh I hate him. He's the kind of guy too though that there's a lot of possibilities for people to like

Misinterpret him and that's why the propaganda of the right is so is fairly effective against him Yeah, and yet at the same time. He's still the most popular Politician in america, right? Um, so anyway, I want to take the piss out of uh ron paul a little bit But we've already talked about how he was probably involved in taking over the dominica that island nation He's probably involved with that white supremacist takeover a little bit He very clearly was involved in the writing of his racist ass newsletter for years He might have been who knows he's also got some fucking dumb ideas about the economy

Although I do appreciate him wanting to legalize weed and being non interventionist. I do appreciate those things good work ron But your standard dickhole who comes on alex jones' show basically wants to spread fear about how the dollar is going to collapse And that you should buy gold that's pretty much the standard operating procedure for most of his guests back in 2009 Let's see if dr. Ron paul is any different We all have to be prepared. I think we should prepare our families and uh, I think financially Ultimately, they're going to destroy the dollar. I don't I don't see anything wrong with people Believing in the constitution and following what they thought should be legal tender and owning a few gold coins and few silver coins And on how to defend themselves. That's what that's what the founders talked about but with a folksy voice

So the founders if I understand correctly the founders mission was like Own a couple gold coins on some silver coins know how to defend yourself. No big deal. That's a constitution write it up Hey All right, good work founders. So I mean ron paul just with the sort of old man All shucks voice is the exact same as bob Chapman coming on his show Yep, he's he's spitting out some of the very similar uh, sort of uh messages Ah, it's okay. If you're a god fearing american, maybe you can go to south africa and rape their lands But you know, you own a couple gold coins

You get a few you get a few blood diamonds you move on you go on So um now ron paul has left and alex is left to his own devices And what do you know? He gets back to promoting the obama deception He is still obsessed with the idea of giving out these dvds when obama zombies come to your door But he takes it a step further that stinks of desperation And so what we need to do is every time they come to your door You need to counter it with the obama deception But more than that go out go to by the way before we get to this that really sounds like a final fantasy situation

Yes, the obama zombies come to your door and then you counter them with the obama deception dvd All right, you use the counter material, which of course you've developed enough ap points to get you better. All right Well, if you pay, I mean if you have a master counter material, you're gonna counter almost 80 percent of the time You've got to buy those ap points though from the info wars store You don't buy ap points dan you earn them from the info wars store But more than that go out go to usaservice.org Every small town every big city has obama noid zombie meetings This is like the early nazi party, but they mean well. They think they're a few dating bush. I don't know. It's the same agenda on steroids

You need to reach out to them You need to go to their meetings And say oh, yeah, you know i'm against bush. Oh all the secret arrests and the wars But what about obama check out this film tell me what you think about it And they're real cult like the leaders will try to kick you out But some will notice and say hey that's wrong and say okay Well, come outside if you want me to give you dvds and then have a camera with you and it'll you know the

No, and i mean you they might start calling the cops get out of here get out of the library Get out you're like i'm allowed to be here I just came to your meeting because like like you're a terrorist or something out there And he's wanting to stop obama lord and then you can show that video of them flipping out Alex is completely imagining this scenario Yeah, but but he does want is for people to go agitate in places with his dvds get video of it And then that's buzz marketing if Alex from a very early point Understood the value of that sort of sensational. Yeah, absolutely video content. Yeah, and so that's kind of impressive

That's why jack's like jack posobic and all and all of those fucking guys That's why they are his children to some extent is because the I'm it's not to say that other people weren't making prank videos back then right but possibly not to the extent of Like harnessing that as a marketing. Yeah, yeah, Alex is very savvy about that and you can hear it in this what he's Telling his audience to do he's telling them to go out and bait people into yelling at you Which he can then use for marketing right as like oh look they're so scared of this Inocuous dvd the obama deception I'm not saying that if you have a copy of the obama deception, you shouldn't be allowed in the library

I can't believe anyone ever bought one What i'm saying is that every library should have like a metal detector But it only detects copies of the obama deception and if you have one you have to leave it at the door It's comical to me that anyone ever would buy This dvd isn't it just on youtube like it's free everywhere. Yeah, it's insane to me. But anyway Then obama click on the support will see that online And then they'll go watch the obama deception It's going to be everywhere for free

But you get it in high quality at prism planet dot tv on the dvd at info wars dot com folks. We're launching this sucker I want you to go to info wars dot com if you've got a bookstore or a church or a school or You know a convenience store a gas station everything obama sells know that An incredible hype out there and so you got the stack of them sitting there and they're like what are those? Oh, that's the obama deception That gets into how he's really working with bush and others really. I want to see that That's another imagine to direction

Anything obama sells so please buy my shit in bulk. You'll be able to move and I promise you everyone's gonna want to buy this Buy a bunch. You got a gas station buy a ton of them We all know how those dvd racks are full of quality programming at gas stations All the times that we've gone and done road shows ended up at like some Fucking gas station with a shower in it. You yeah, come on killing a little bit of time at that truck stop You watch the obama deception. What's this fake iron man movie? Oh good. Oh, that one's actually good Oh, alex jones is in this fucking wreck. It's called ferris man. Right. It's pretty good I told you up top at the beginning of this episode that uh alex jones had a retraction to make yes

And I said, you know, I fucking hoped it would be about tonia lamo because that was pretty disgraceful at the end I still got my fingers crossed for azi mandamus All right, i'm gonna spend five minutes with jason mermas for a quick retraction and then a beef up It's a retraction and then a beef up So it's a retraction and then a doubling down. It would be followed by a beef up a beef up We all know what's a beef up. We've all had we've all witnessed a classic beef up What is a beef up? You've never been to a beef up? I've never been to a beef up Oh bad. That's when you take a bad argument. Is it one word or is it two words?

It's hyphenated. It's hyphenated compound word. Okay. You go you take a bad argument and then you're like Well, I was really actually right. That's basically what you do. Okay. That's what a beef up is. That's a beef up. All right, okay Now now I made it clear on air yesterday that Mr. Moore who wrote the Watchman novel that I'm not a comic book reader and so I just got the book sunday stand through it after I'd seen the film saturday The film was the Illuminati the pyramid corporation is staging terror attacks for your own good It's a wonderful thing single attack to bring in an age of love and peace and the new godman that will develop and travel the stars

Nope, and then mermas said. Oh, yeah, he was also involved in that Look really missed the point on that. Dr. Manhattan was not a god man that developed like Yeah, wait. Does he think that humanity will become dr. Manhattan. No, that was one character. Yeah on an arc and he was Fucked up. Yeah, he was the career. He was the result of an accident Yeah, even the character himself was like isn't it fucked up that this is me. I don't want to do this. Yeah fucked up my life This is gross. Yeah, I was just a dude. I was gonna have sex and my lady doesn't love me anymore No, and neither can I love anyone. No Sandman thing so I mentioned that and then people emailed me and drove saying no, he's not man

Mermas to clarify there was a collaboration between the sandman and another novel That's why Ellen Moore is always getting mad because they twist his stuff, but he did pull up Um Some of the and and since then we've done research the guy openly is a mason. He openly says he's into the occult He openly says he does all this regardless. You see the film that they staged terror attacks to bring in world peace I mean, that's the whole point we're making about the watchman Then we're gonna briefly talk about burning made off. All right, whatever. All right The burning made off stuff is again the same like he's not going to prison

So his retraction is that neil gayman didn't write No, no his retraction is like I said he did sandman. He didn't really but there's some crossover Which apparently there is, you know, like there is like, uh, I don't remember what uh, I'm not worried about it. Yeah, it's not important But there is like a like a spiritual connection between allen moore's work and neil gaymans But there's also a spiritual connection between allen moore's work and lovecraft There's a spiritual connection. Yeah, I think I remember rorschach showing up in good omen's the terry pratchett and neil gayman novel

Well, this is like this is just an interesting instance of like alex misinterpreted the hell out of watchman kept saying ozzy mandamus and then said that Allen moore did sandman which he did. He retracted one of these things. Yes, the most important one to be fair was the most factual It's interesting as opposed to pronunciation base. It's so interesting to me. Why did you need to do that? There's no reason to do that It's crazy Somebody who works there who made a stink about it probably there was just might have been bermas. Yeah. No bermas himself was probably like

Hey, look Everything was cool. It's ozzy mandius, but i'm not gonna fight you on that one But seriously sandman is maybe the greatest not a graphic novel ever written And if you're not gonna respect that it was neil gayman, I got it. I'm gonna quit This is a resignation level offense alex and you'll notice You won't notice because we're not listening to all of this uh sort of chat that they have alex doesn't say ozzy mandius's name At all, uh, he doesn't like there's no indication that he's realized he was wrong But also he doesn't say it which means by the absence of it

It's most likely he knows it's conspicuous. Yeah. Yeah pronunciation. So now that is the retraction Are you interested in the beef up? I am interested in the beef up now This is a mic down neil gayman actually wrote the watchman. No, this is this is a mic down situation because Jason bermus is about to come in with some allen more wisdom that is so crazy And goes all over the place. You have to hear all of it So you have you there's nuance. So as a pre-emptive is it a wisdom about allen more allen more's wisdom or is it wisdom with an allen more flair? It's supposed wisdom about allen more gotcha that actually uh uh betrays uh

How little wisdom he has and a pretty misogynistic Uh, what element of from somebody in the info wars. Yeah, it's weird Didn't be for vendetta too, but he's also a practicing magician And he actually worships a roman snake deity names. Uh, I think it's pronounced a gai clan Which he acknowledges to be a hoax, but real quick I just want to stop there because if you hear that he's like well He's a practicing magician and he worships a roman snake god named gai clan, but he said that's a hoax Like yeah, probably was probably was a bunch of dumb bullshit

So so even in his like insinuation of like he worships this god I mean admittedly he said that was all bullshit that he was making up to make people like me say dumb shit Like what I just said exactly gotcha. Yeah, that's what we good work. Good work. Bermas That's what the kids now call a cell phone. Yes, it is But he says magic is synonymous synonymous with art and his understanding is it it's the use of words images and Actions to affect people and the way they think yeah, that's what that's what their real religion is Is that numbers symbols to manipulate our subconscious? Yeah, so he's into that openly I mean, he's got you know a wife a girlfriend

Just see how the guy looks and dresses you can tell right away that he's into this, you know supernatural realm The fact that alan more can get laid is evidence of the supernatural Oh Look at how the guy dresses beef up He believes that magic is the ability to use words to make changes in the physical world Magic magic is essentially art. Yeah, which is what kind of monster would believe that? Oh my god That's a philosophically very interesting perspective wherein I put down my thoughts and I create something that I believe is evocative of

Some thing I want to express and people read it and their minds are changed. Isn't that somehow magical? I think that's a very interesting perspective to have on the art of like just the act of creation And the act of taking in a creation. Yeah, which is Essentially the theme behind neil stevensson snow crash, which is again fantastic book and it's highly recommend It's something that is not it's a little bogged down at the end, but don't worry about it That's not the most like a high level like doctoral thesis version of Like understanding how art affects people But like they're stupid shit about like it's archetypal. They're just trying to manipulate us

It just it falls on deaf ears and then the part about like you look at how this guy looks He's married or has a or has a girlfriend if he's getting fucked, you know, there's magic involved You know, there's magic involved. It's just like I don't know if that's a joke Like I really don't because they don't laugh afterwards That's true. I don't know if that's supposed to be a burn Dude, have they ever heard of alan parsons because they have no idea what's actually in store for them I think uh, I think the next break he comes in with the alan parsons project. Oh, does he? Oh, no, not alan parsons jack jack parsons. Yeah, yeah jack. He does know about jack parsons

He's complaining about his demonicness How is it that I miss? Oh god, that's terrible very similar names. Yeah Um, so jordan, uh, that was the retraction and the beef up The beef up now was the only way more gets fucked is if magic is real and he's a magician and he worships a snake god But it was a hoax and also magic is art So now we get into a portion of the show if I was if I was grading that paper From like a english 101 as a freshman. Yeah, I'd be like hey, you know There's only one criminal sin and that's using

Uh, he paints a picture with words as a legitimate phrase The other sin is Whatever the fuck you just said go away forever third is using more than five exclamation points in the course of your career Oh, you cannot do that. What? Oh, that's dirty pool So jordan now we enter this portion of the show that is probably one I think one of the most interesting things i've heard in a long time on alex's show He has to fill time he's got a couple guests coming up towards the end of the show

But he's got like this gap as he decides to take calls and he gets some fucking really bad calls Yeah, but it's super interesting to me that alex handles those calls very well This is a really hallmark of our show is when alex does a good job. We're not afraid. We gotta call it out We're not afraid to admit it He has a couple callers who are like the depths of how stupid his fucking audience is Yeah, and he does not handle them terribly now I will admit that when he does do something good it is evidence that magic is real. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah So, uh, this first one, um, is a poet

Larry in california you're on the air worldwide Uh Yeah, hey alex. Yes, sir. Yo, yeah Are you with me? Yeah, I sure got you on the line right now, bro. You're on the air, man I want to say this man. I do not support the troops in iraq I I fact I wrote a little poem can I uh I I'm gonna I'm making a song out of it. It's called uh If you are an american with a gun in iraq, I hope you come back in a body fact

If you're an american with a gun in the middle east, I hope you get devoured by the beast If you're an american with a gun in pakistan, I hope you die when you're stand sir sir Listen, I happen to have family over in iraq in afghanistan and they joined for reasons they believe were good They bought the propaganda and we it doesn't hurt the new world order for the troops that you had killed You know, I really don't want to sit here hoping that I hope iraqis don't die. I hope the troops don't die I hope the troops don't die and combat with the american people. I want to avert this, you know I understand you're angry and upset

There is over a million three hundred thousand iraqis dead many of them children But uh, you know You know, I don't hope people die that have had abortions I just hope they wake up to what they've been part of and repent I mean, I just you know what? I appreciate your call and you can hate me if you want larry But i'm just not gonna let that go any further. Okay, like take holy shit Take the abortion part out because we know what we know about alex. Yeah Like everything else that is professional handling of that call

Now granted he has the ability to just hit the mute button. So like yeah, I can't keep yelling. Yeah That's a really good response to that guy. You know, yeah, that's really good. Yeah I don't think in the moment. I would be able to do that well with that guy. I would probably be like, what's the next stanza? Holy shit. Yeah, pretty holy shit, man I mean, yeah, that would I would like to know what the next stanza is. Yeah, also that last one was a slight rhyme You know what you do? What is it with you and slam rhymes? I think it's an impure version of poetry. All right impure That's that's a That's limiting. That's limiting. What are you? What are you?

Shakespearean, what are you doing here? It's not a close to a In a rhyme scheme. It's a a Jordan. Yeah, this next call that alex receives is worse Very much worse. Yeah, but also I gotta give alex some props for how he handles it Really? Because this could go terribly. So would you say that hope is a thing with feathers? Is that a poem? I'm an eight-year subscriber I've been distributing your material since 2000 with the beginning with America Destroyed by Design on VHS tape back then awesome Over that well over 6,000. I got a big Xerox

We've only had present planet dot tv though for five years, but I appreciate you being a subscriber No, no, I've been distributing your stuff. Oh awesome. Awesome. Starting with America Destroyed by Design Awesome. I cry often concerning the event in 9 11 as I have lost Three friends two of whom were blown to smithereens by controlled demolition incorporated Jordan, you don't know where this is going. I I beg you to I know we just had a mic down clip recently No, no, I'm just writing shit down. I'm not talking right now I'm just afraid you're going to yell over this and you need to experience the power. All right. All right I'm gonna put the mic down again. You need to you need to again. You need to experience the turn

This is unprecedented. How many mic down clips we have only two so far. I know it comes very fast though Okay, and you'll get whiplash. All right, so he's talking about 9 11 And I know people who've lost over a dozen loved ones that faithful day Uh, I just like to view a few grievances briefly and it's a synced g-rated manner. I'm extremely peed off Uh, I wish you'd put up a Fred Tobin banner linked to the book Um, did six million really die? And talk about the persecution of Earl Sundell Question the hola hoax

You'll get arrested when you enter canada england or germany Now I notice you sometimes hang up quickly on articulate people who legitimately criticize you and then spend five or ten or more Minutes in the defensive tower rating So real quick in case anyone didn't pick up on what you just uh responded to by screaming this guy's a holocaust denier So and he's promoting asking alex to promote other holocaust deniers Two or three people. He knows died in 9 11. Yeah, which of course reinforces his belief that the holocaust was a hoax Yes, the hola hoax So all all of this is to say that this guy

I mean we we're getting a nice cross section of alex's listeners by the way because this guy's been promoting alex's shit for years Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's just like why don't you come out and say that the holocaust was a bullshit thing There's a there's a weird uh poet and then immediately followed by a holocaust denier who's been a fan of his for years Yeah, also Shocked that hola hoax is not already an alex jones documentary, right? Didn't well alex would never touch that that's too That's he knows better. Yeah, he's got time but like uh You I think you can appreciate what I was saying that turn came out of nowhere fast So now we get to him he keeps talking for a little bit and then 9 11 bad holocaust not real

That's true. There should be a middle There should be an a to b to c not an a to f y and x on fire So I don't think alex's response is perfect But it's pretty good. Okay. You've just connected them uh Seems you found a lucrative career in the Patriot business making poor people run around facing their tails offing no real solutions

It's getting on the radio every day. Let's stop right there. Let's let's stop right there We're moving to try to get the states to declare sovereignty We are moving to have the bankers arrested and had a congressman on saying it 30 minutes ago. That was ron paul Real quick. It's not great that his first uh initial reaction to rebut is the idea that he doesn't offer solutions Because that's what he's doing here. He's saying he's responding to the guy saying like you don't offer solutions You're just trying to scare people So alex is like we have all these tenth amendment resolution guys on ron paul is on talking about the Arresting the bankers and like well, you should probably deal with the most pressing issue first

But I understand that you got to spin your wheels a little bit and get your bearings 35 minutes go to be technical We are moving to have an audit of the private federal reserve. We are moving to have the american people Say no to martial law. You know, I have you on the show. We don't screen your call You come on here And you sit here and you insult and you attack me And you say all these terrible things About me and you say that i'm giving those solutions

I am I make a film that has cost me probably 80 000 or more to make And I am going to release it for free on the internet high quality at prisonplanet.tv And you call in and you say i'm bad You call in and you say i'm evil You know, here's the issue I don't like the things israel does and I criticize israel But I also don't want to be associated with the type of scum That make it their lives to simply hate jews and everybody else

Do you understand? I don't like what israel's doing and I don't like you either It's very very simple and I hope you realize that you could have had your say, sir Which had to spew lies so find another show I respect that That's not that's not a terrible answer that when you have someone who's coming on your show I mean, it's not great that he let him get as far as to like actually promote these people who are holocaust deniers That he thinks alex should promote right, you know, it's not great that the call made it that far But on another level because alex has this like ethos of i'm not going to screen my calls

You guys can come in like on the last episode He's talking about how people used to sell tractors on his show like yeah, I got a tractor in missouri for sale right I kind of respect that in terms of letting people speak their piece and in this instance We have such a stark contrast in 2009 and the present when he was in that drunk hotel interview And he refused to engage with the idea that nazis Like he has people who are nazis who are really into him right here We have an instance where a nazi who's really into him is calling into the show in 2009 talking about how the holocaust isn't real

And alex goes so far as to say I don't care for what israel's doing But you people who are anti-semitic. I don't want to be associated with you I don't like israel and I don't like you see that's what I that's my favorite part Which is which is a line that I think I'm going to start using from now on Anytime somebody makes me mad. I'm just gonna be like listen I don't like what israel's doing and I don't like you either I like that that's like that's a solid line in the middle of this episode where he's lying about The canadian military and desperately trying to sell his stupid documentary

I can't say that I don't respect that. You know, I do think that's a good response There is a there's another way he could have answered that call and I think he would have answered it differently now So though it pains me, I'll tip my cap to alex for that response. Yeah, could have done way way worse So now, uh, we come back to the show. He's gotten through these calls Still isn't at the point when his guest is supposed to call in and it's kind of spinning his wheels a little bit So he decides to sell the obama deception a little bit more quick question in 2018 where we are now. Yeah, does he still take calls now that he's not he always says he's gonna take calls Yeah, and then pretty much never gets to them. Yeah, but he's like there are still people who can call in though, right?

Yeah, but they almost never get through people like he'll end up saying we're gonna take calls and then he'll start rambling about bullshit He'll take one call And then I'm out of time. So people do like there are still calls though I'm just I'm just interested to know if I would say that like Because if he if he's like on terrestrial radio and podcast It's hard to imagine that people would know exactly when he records if they weren't already well because he broadcasts live They know when he's on air, but then the way he doesn't say we're gonna take calls on every episode Yeah, and many times when he says we're gonna get to calls. He never does not get to calls

So it's it's a crapshoot. Gotcha. It's much less a part of his show than it used to be Right, but that's for sure. Okay. He still pretends that it is a part of his show. Yeah, that's a fair way to go Okay, cool. Um, so in this next clip, alex gets back to selling the obama deception and boy Things take a turn I was a highway man along the coast where they turn It's to a couple about drums You know, I can't talk about what's going on Behind the scenes right now here, but I'll tell you this ladies and gentlemen

They do not want the obama deception to come out I'm gonna tell you right now look for launch in the next 12 hours So let me tell you this stuff surreal So that's the intimidation The things we go through here They confirm everything we know about the enemy It doesn't matter You're only alive once ladies and gentlemen

Are you the enemy knows the sleeping giant that is liberating and freedom is rising They know you have power That's why they're trying to block us every way they have So I will tell everybody right now the obama deception is going to drop It's probably dropping today get ready at prisonplanet.tv. I'm being forced to do this Because we may not have a chance if we wait and I'm showing my hand of the enemies listening right now Launch the operation launch it launch it at all sites Just go ahead and launch it launch it right now. I just made that decision launch the operation right now

I only have two or three versions of it up there for everybody I wish the public knew how real this was Terry Bressy you're on the air What just happened What is going on right now? Yes, um Oh, okay. What just happened right? So alex just what the fuck was that alex just launched the operation That was crazy. So now the obama deception is out. It's coming in the next 12 hours actually fucking it's happening now Hit that big button that says deploy the operation. Does he have a big button?

I must yeah, it's probably like jim kramer's crazy big button that that that would be a fun button for alex to have Yeah, the release the documentary button So release like 90s conan whenever you had the the walker texas ranger button Yeah, he said we're releasing it. I've made the decision put it out on all platforms and then the long pauses terry bressy you're on the air So I I should tell you that terry bressy is a guy who runs a website called checkpoint usa Um, and uh, he's all about how like these checkpoints around the country whether they be for uh immigration checkpoints Or sobriety checkpoints or whatever you don't have to talk to those people

You can just go and say like am I being detained if you just keep saying it they'll eventually let you go Oh, I remember those uh those videos that people used to put up on youtube all the time where they're like Am I am I in fourth amendment? I'm a dick and he's one of the biggest uh youtube guys Which is not to say i'm super pro checkpoint or whatever. It's like those you're just being a dick. Yeah, yeah He was actually even interviewed on an episode of this american life about uh his actions and his behaviors All right coming up next we have a terry bressy. We have terry bressy. He is an avowed Public asshole and he has uh been doing it for a long time terry

We're gonna give you the floor go ahead and talk for us I don't want to get too into his appearance on alex's show because Like you said i'm not super into checkpoints either whatever. I think the case by case There's a reason for them to exist and a reason why some of them might be too much Whatever but they're often deployed in a very racist manner. Yeah, yeah, but that's not terry's concern And also it of course it appears that he's a sovereign citizen But I can't really prove it. I can just Get some of the code from his words like he keeps talking about how we're free to travel

Which is a really big. Oh, that's a huge sovereign term in the sovereign citizen World and he keeps using like really sovereign adjacent language about stuff He doesn't go so far as to say like admiralty law or any of those right dead to rights Oh, that's what you're about right, but it's pretty clear that he's uh, he's kind of in that in that world um, so we uh He gets done with this terry bressy interview and uh alex is going through some things He's going through some things Okay, um

It's hard to continue on here I'm here right now And uh Just a sick of the new world order. I'm sick of all their crap But we know who they are. We know what they are. We know it has to be done Okay, I just wish people valued how serious and how real this information is I know a lot of you do but sometimes I think I don't value it because you know, I live it I breathe it. I'm I'm in this fight constantly

And for other people it's like some social thing or it's like fun It's fun to fight and defeat evil, but it's It's not fun working this hard. It's not fun looking at these horrors all day It's not fun knowing you're right and just seeing the evil continue and grow and just get worse and all the people it hurts Kind of sounds like how I feel about his present day show Um ouch. I don't know what is is he describing a moment where he's like Am I the bad guy here? No, I don't think so. I don't think he's having that kind of introspection, but much like Fucking wcw viewer in 1998. He is sick of the new world order

Nicely done. My year might be off there. The world order might still have been cool in 98 I can't remember exactly but there was a day when they weren't and that is the day we are describing. Yeah, exactly I mean, this is just Get it together. Alex. You are not being threatened behind the scenes So what do you what is he what do you think he is describing behind the scenes though? Maybe some trolling That's possible. You think so. I think that's maybe some like distribution issues where his tech guy is like We haven't finished editing it or his lawyer is saying we haven't cleared some of this stuff You can't put it out for real. Yeah, you can't use that highwayman song

I know you want to isn't cleared music or hasn't gotten All the signatures for the interviews or right there's some claim He's making that they haven't figured out like is this you've got to get those signatures immediately after doing I would assume that's part of it. Like but he's decided that he's going to release it He released it on air. It's done. But he's kind of yeah, he is he waffling again. Well, let's see You know, I got a bunch of trailers coming out for the obama deceptions some promos some sneak peeks and things that We're supposed to start coming out in the next two days You know for the film to have its full effect. It needs to do that. But um

You know the establishment The fbi has a lot of dirty tricks and they under their patriot act Where they're sneaking peek things They can tell you under the wall that His dad's like, don't do this yet. You're not even supposed to tell people what's going on. What? That's what this country has turned into is a soviet dirt pit Which I love by the way blacklist for the communists. That's nothing compared to what patriots go through. We there are congressional hearings Where they show architects and engineers for 9 11 true next gal kind of training videos and say the web has to be shut down

They're having big pentagon cyber security takeovers of the entire web and the former head Of homeland security cyber security has resigned saying it's a total takeover They admit north com and the pentagon and everything else is for the american people So, you know, you got this you got this sort of uh, we're the most repressed group Fuck the blacklist. This is the oh, yeah, it's the patriots are the one who you get this sneak and peek The fbi is up in my shit. Oh those guys This is such wow with their fbi But you know what this is this is part of you know, how traditionally the fbi has definitely been against

Patriots in that very clip what you see is the truth and the falsity about his Uh campaign that he's putting on this this sort of advertising campaign about his uh, obama deception at the beginning Is exactly why he's not Launching it as he just screamed on air It's because there's a bunch of trailers that he needs to put out in order to get public interest Right in order for the release to actually work the way he wants it to right The lie is the idea that there's enemies and the fbi with the patriot act and sneak and peek is coming in

And there they don't want you to put the information out that i'm about to put out right No, he sounds like a petulant child. That's the reason that he sounds like a pro No, I I I hear I hear this is very this is pretty well done No, the reason that I the reason that I I thought I was like, oh, it's his dad is because There's very much this like his dad wasn't the hr director at this point I meant a metaphorical dad daddy Uh, just like this idea of him being like I want to drop it now and somebody is in his ear Somebody's in his ear just going like no, we need to develop a

Advertising campaign in that way you can do that and he's like buckly But I want to do it now Buckly has given him some like calm down advice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And but look, I I think that that's probably true on like a psychological level But I don't think for a second that alex planned on releasing it at any point during this show Right I think that is part of the anticipation game that he's playing and it also creates this illusion of immediacy and danger That's what he's really trying to develop about the movie like on this episode. This might as well be entirely a

Sort of infomercial for the obama deception Yeah, there's a couple of narrative pieces and a couple of interviews that he doesn't have fucking holocaust denying collar But along the way Most of the meat that's on the bones is him like Going on this arc of should I release it? Should I not fuck it? I'm gonna do it and then with never walking it back Coming back from break and being like it's coming out later. I need to put some ads out in order to make it He's doing this back and forth thing as A way to create the image that it's a hard decision for him when it's not

He just needs people to think it is because then they'll assume that the globalists are trying to threaten him behind the scenes Right, which will bolster the actual release when it right right if that makes sense. I know that I get it It's so transparent, but I also think it's fucking awesome Like as well as a marketing ploy. I think it's pretty good. It's not terrible I think he tricked a lot of people So I think that I think that I've made my point pretty clear that I think this is a transparent very see-through uh Ad pitch

Yeah extended ad pitch that has ups and downs peaks and valleys of i'm doing it now. I gotta hold back I'm gonna do it now There's just this this this he's trying to get the listeners Excitement and and make them feel like this could happen at any time. How exciting is this right? And and when I say that I think it's well done I think at the moment it's well done. Yeah, even two weeks later. This stinks You know like two weeks later if you went back and listened to this episode you'd be like Oh, he was clearly fucking around right right if you were listening live

You'd probably be and you already liked him. Do we like this is exciting Do we have the date when he actually does drop it? He dropped I think he dropped it on the day he you meant to the entire time I think that never changed it was still sunday. I believe so. Yeah, god. What an idiot. Let me actually confirm that. All right While dan goes about confirming that I am uh going to Go into an in-depth Discussion of final fantasy 7 and how it relates to the current situation that we're in right now now If you recall president shinra in the first disc of the game is of course murdered by sephroth Whether or not sephroth is at the time however a ghost is never really

Addressed because sephroth had actually died years before this event in question. So how is it that sephroth can Essentially force project himself into a place where he can kill somebody with a physical katana that is roughly What what is it like 12 feet long dan? It's a 12 foot long katana You're not answering my question fine. Okay, so we have that and then we have president rufus who takes over Now why would the son of the current president then become president? Unless we were living in some sort of weird dystopian Fucking technocratic future the release date is just listed as 2009 on pretty much any source I can find I have no idea But I'm certain it was the exact date that he intended to from the jump probably that sunday

Yeah, most likely um, but uh this next clip just This is so wild because that that transparency that he is clearly showing of uh like I'm there's attacks against me, but they're kind of fucking bullshit Yeah, it's very very obvious and then at the end of this clip He says something that if I were alex jones, I would talk about for the next two years Okay, and fortune favors the bold ladies and gentlemen does it But I am sick and tired of the new world order

I told you that when I took on Obama this was serious So I was going up against their biggest baddest gladiator and all of the throngs of soulless minions he's got And those that do have souls but are deceived And the threats my wife gets the threats I get is nothing compared to the snake itself Snooping around and trying to shut down what we are doing here not happening Yeah, they know the obama deception is the truth. They know that we understand their agenda We know how to shatter the left right paradigm. We know how to beat these people Our information is going super total nova right now, and I'm going to tell the enemy

You picked the wrong side with the new world order And we're going to take this country back and the tyrants and the treasonous lecherous people will be brought to justice through courts of law know that Just like hitler's germany this tyranny will fall probably before it ever gets launched to the level that hitler was able to carry out The globalists just do their killing in third world nations with our troops fair I mean, yeah sure The obama deception ladies and gentlemen

You need to see it you need to have it you need to get it out to everyone and you need to remember that the enemy is scared of it Remember the tonio lamo that obama has an enemy's list and you can better believe i'm on it And most of all everybody needs to pray for what we do here pray for this ministry It is a ministry of truth to the people of the world a light a lighthouse in these stormy times If I were someone who had the mentality of alex jones, I would hear the end of that and he's like He just called himself the ministry of truth. That's from 1984 He's clearly making an allusion to the propaganda outlet The ministry of propaganda the ministry of truth from 1984. He's revealing the method. No, no

It's just like watchman. No, he totally gets the reference. He doesn't get he doesn't get no he understands the reference dan He doesn't get to he he can't he can't allow himself to do propaganda unless he tells his audience That's what he's doing. So when he compares himself to the ministry of truth, that's externalization of the method Look, you can't blame him for that. He just scanned it right That's so fucking stupid because when he complains about like George hw bush saying new world order when he's discussing a new Like confluence of world powers and stuff like that new arrangements in the world He just said infowars is a ministry of truth. Yeah, come on. Yes. Sometimes you call yourself a mini history. That's very specific language

It's very specific. It's not I were a shithead. I would talk about that forever Yeah, but I'm not because I understand that he's just grass. No, you got to understand that his his operation is is just this Uh, it's just this like process. It's it's like, uh, it's like an animal farm. That's what you would describe as uh His operation as dan. There's no bad connotations to that In terms of jason bermas two legs bad I will say that So I don't I just I like that because again in that entire clip you could very easily see how like this is what you're doing is just trying to Sell your fucking movie. You're doing a you're doing a set piece. You're doing a play an audit like a radio theater kind of thing

Yeah, but then at the end orson wells would be so proud He would shit himself and then murder you alex But then at the end there the calling yourself the ministry of truth like I know that we're clowning on a little bit But like He would never let anybody else get away with that if obama said that oh no Yeah, if he if obama it was ever like and we're the ministry of truth. He'd be like And pr is uh, they're on a ministry for truth in the world. Yeah, alex would talk about that for a decade Yeah, so this is just to demonstrate how sensible we are in comparison that we can just be like

You're fucking stupid dick. Yeah. Yeah, and then the answer is he's fucking stupid. It's not like there's any There's no further nefarious game other than his complete inability to understand the written word Yeah, it's tough So at this point we get an interview with someone who took me a fucking hour to find out who he was Because his name is chez kane Chez kane, you know how many fucking ways there are to spell that? Uh, that's a good fucking name and chez if you spell it with a z. That's just the french word for house Shea, which is also the word that is the beginning of most restaurants, right? Like shea

Blanc like whatever right other words that's often like the house of blank um And so I just got really self-conscious because mason is also house But look the the the point is and it's also the name of the group of people who are secretly controlling the world We're adorable with their aprons. They uh stone mason's So chez kane Yes is on the show and i'll just i'll just lay this out ahead of time He's on there because he sells an am transmitter and so alex

I Love the low stakes I love the lower stakes of 2009 I believe that you can I don't know which ones he's selling because the uh, what I was able to find on the way back machine From his website, which is no longer on the internet, right? Uh, I couldn't find the actual like sales pages So I don't know which models he was selling or how much they were but like really good AM transmitters are going to run you in the thousands of dollars

Okay, but you could get one for about 80 dollars Used like there there is like a version of it that's in the like 100 ish range So the am transmitter if I understand like are we talking about like an actual Radio transmitter my man. This is pirate radio. That's what I was that's what i'm yeah, okay Just wanted to be sure there now on his website, which was am true or truth am So on a radio show he's selling a pirate radio show. Yeah. All right. I love it alex back in alex's this alex guy I like him alex is trying to get all of his listeners to create pirate radio stations to play his show I love it, which is evidence of

Most people aren't knocking down your door to syndicate your show if you are a policy walk I want you to start your own podcast and just play our podcast. No absolutely not So it's it's it's an interesting thing because if you go to this guy's website, uh, it was truth am dot com It's no longer on the air, but you can find it on the way back machine One of the things that you find is that like even on his website It's like you got to get this transmitter, but you're also who can need an antenna and you need all these cords It's a fucking elaborate system

You still need to set up if you want to broadcast anything other than a feed right now alex's feed You could conceivably plug in or if you had a cd of an alex jones show you could easily play it Through a plug, but if you wanted to like actually do your own show It would require a bunch of other equipment. Yeah So that would cost you a whole bunch more But it's so fun that he's having them on because it is this like you get a glimpse into like All right. All right krock's not knocking down your door to put your radio show on I'm gonna guess a lot of fm stations aren't interested a lot of am stations are already playing rush

They're still playing that alternative rock too. Well, then the other people at the time When was the last time you heard the highway man on fm dan? But like If you're Fucking hanity if you're glen back You don't spend a half hour of your show talking to a guy who sells am transmitters in order for people to bootleg Your show into the airwaves probably because you have 500 fucking stations playing your show in major markets Yeah, so alex and you know what here's the thing

I think it's pathetic and it indicates that he's not doing well, but I still respect the hell out of it I like the hustle the man's on a hustle I think that if he was like If he was coming to the audience and he was like look we're not doing great the globalists don't want me on stations I need you to buy these am transmitters because that's the way we're gonna do this I would respect that more than it in presenting it as like a toss aside thing Right, you know what I mean? Right right right like if he was more honest about wanting his audience to be the radio station for him. Yeah

I would be into it But as it is he's kind of presenting it as like uh, we're so fucking successful You know anytime that could all go away. So you guys oh come on. Yeah, it's a bummer. That's a bummer So uh ches By the way, it's ches cane. It's c uh ches It took me a very long time to figure that out ches. Yes. That's not how you say ches I think it is. All right. You could throw a z on there, but I think ches is what's the one where it's a couch But it's also a shays lounge a shays lounge. Are you sure it's not a shays cane?

I don't know I've got nothing So, um This next this clip is the beginning of the ches Cain interview that he has which again is about selling a m transmitters to his audience so that they can play Uh alex's show, uh The way they set up this interview is telling So that's why there's a little banner on info wars, but this is not a paid interview right now

I have a mom because I believe in it Do you? Ches cane good to have you on with us sir in the dark days of the republic. Uh, this transmitter is what people need, isn't it? It sure is and uh, thanks for having me on alex. Uh, I actually grew up across the other side of uh, the lake from you over there in Dallas Ches It's not a paid interview The reason that that's interesting to me is because why would you bring that up if a bunch of your other interviews aren't paid?

I'm not sure what this means. I have no idea what to take away from it But the idea that he's having this guy on who's selling a m transmitters and like this isn't a paid interview It does lead me to believe that a lot of his interviews are paid In some force some version or some form or another. I'm not entirely sure what that is, but Anyway, this isn't my only complaint with ches cane. Uh, the other one is this next clip That red beckman interview you had a while back It got me to get his book the walls in our minds and it tells the difference between politicians and statesmen and I decided, you know, I want to be a statesman

And and that's why I did this so Uh, the inspiration from that in your waco video most people probably haven't seen that one But it does show what one man can do and it and it taught me that we I was I was involved in the neocon side I was going to school at DeVry when that happened And uh, and I finally woke up to it and I said if they can do waco anything's possible Uh Sure I was actually going to trump university at the time and all I thought was if they can do waco

They can do anything Reach for the stars if they can do waco. We can do anything I guess Um, the other problem that I have there is that red beckman is the one who woke him up If you'll recall red beckman was one of those weirdo tax protesters. We talked about yeah It was also the one that said that the holocaust wasn't a holocaust. It was a judgment Because the jews worship satan. Look, we've had a holocaust denier. We've had a holocaust Uh, a

Apologist no dude like you understand like this is what makes this so difficult not even apologies like supporter Alex's response to that caller who's recommending holocaust denier people be promoted on his show being good is Jarring to some extent and then you get a little bit later in the show in this ches cane is saying I got woken up by your interview with red beckman someone who believes that the holocaust was deserved because jews are of satan Right like that's how dare you deny the holocaust. It was one of our greatest achievements That's fucking hard to wrestle with. Yeah, don't know what to do with that I think it's essentially the because one of alex's like content people red beckman because he's you know

He loves that he's anti tax and what have you sure he doesn't deal with the fact that oh no, he's also a holocaust denier Uh, cool. Let's just pretend that's not there and then this guy reads some of his books and gets woken up Do you think that's not in some of those other books? Wait, so no red beckman wasn't a denier He was a supporter. Oh, that's fair. Yeah, do you know like that's what that's what i'm saying Like it makes more it makes more sense for him to be against the guy who's a holocaust denier And love the guy who's a holocaust supporter. Yeah, he's a pes dispenser at the end of the day But even in that like when that guy was saying, uh, the holocaust denial stuff Alex's response was very clearly. I don't want to be lumped in with dicks like you

I'm against israel, but I hate people who hate jews So even his response should be like, hey, man What about red beckman now that this is coming back up it you you start to see this difference in how he treats different like Who is too toxic right red beckman is somehow like Plausibly like ah, he's really just against the 16th amendment He just like he's he's concerned about the legality of taxes. Maybe he's quirky Maybe he's quirky. Maybe he's quirky about the jews or something like that Alex can like he can sort of hide behind that. Was that why the chow chesky got that is because he was quirky

Quirky is that look look he's still a sir. I mean, he's a bit quirky. No, that was an old Oh For a number of years. He was a sir. No, he wasn't because he wasn't a citizen. He's kbe. He's kbe Uh, but yeah, man, but he had some quirks. It's very it's very difficult to wrestle with this like distinction that Alex refuses to make And this is I think part of why in present day he refuses to engage at all I think you see the kernels of it here, but it's discreet. It's discreet like This bringing up of red beckman never gets into the fact that he is super into the holocaust Which seems like a thing you shouldn't even be allowed to say, right?

I don't know. It's just this 2009 is is is wild stuff. It's just it's crazy Yeah, so uh in this next clip. Alex sells the obama deception some more shocking. Uh-huh We are back live ladies and gentlemen and defense of the republic you have found at the tip of the spear in the info war We're here money through friday from 11 a.m. The 3 p.m. By the grace of god We have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but that truth Except for all the luck the obama deception I'm very very tempted to go ahead and release it and not wait till sunday because time is short I thought you already released it's right going on against us our legion

And that tells me that we are very close to victory. I smell victory so close to victory Just release the fucking thing then if that's all it takes for you to get victory then do it Just do it, but he's not gonna do it because he knows he already said it earlier We need to have these ads come out in order to get interest bubbling up. Yeah That's all he's doing here. It is an intensely self contradictory idea to say that releasing this Will be the death blow right to the new world order, right? And yet at the same time to hold on to it for buzz, right like that's like that's transparently the game a little bit. Yeah

That's you know, they're like, oh the buzz is really more what you oh, yeah That's impossible to reconcile the part about it being dangerous to the new world order. It might be a part of the buzz Secondary to the buzz part or might be a part of the buzz It might be an essential piece of what you know, you need to sell this. Yeah So now george, this is my favorite thing in the world. Sure We've heard alex sing a lot on this show do karaoke One time I don't know how much we've heard him sing. We've heard him sing talk, right?

We haven't we haven't really heard his heard his range You know, he is like is he even is he a perfect pitch? Is he a bass? Is he a tenor? Like I don't even really know his perfect pitch a little higher than you'd expect Okay, always on point now. We've heard him sing along with songs talk sing if you prefer Only a couple times have we heard him rap Oh god, no, we've heard him. No End of this episode. Hey guys, we have a website. This is me walking out So we've heard him do the move bitch get out the way the ludicrous song

Oh, shit. I remember how great that was now here is remember when somebody put that together in a Nice little remix. Where is that? That was kind now here is alex spitting what I would call the hottest 16 bars on the street I got a message of the government like every day They're telling me about a summer over there. No, no, no, dad. No I really can't do this God we've got criminals in control hot 16 bars Oh, just him just him saying summer instead of summer infuriates me somehow calm down I got a message of the government

I hate you so much. I hate you so much for that. I hate you so much for that He's so dare you he like that song that he's uh, like he it is the same thing as the highwayman Where he's like just saying things that are about to be said by the actual musician And it's kind of like slightly off that that that's close to like some of the lines from that song It's so much more racist. God. It's terrible. It's so weird. It's terrible So now alex gets back to content. He wants to talk a little bit about more news, uh, perhaps And uh, he drops this in i'll say at this point. He's talking to webster tarpley Who has come in as for an interview? Yeah, he's a weirdo anti-democrat guy

But who cares his interview isn't that great? He mostly wants to talk about how like they're obama vills Popping up obama vills like hoover vills Right except for ten cities of homeless people But yeah, but these aren't like back then these are good families who are being put into tent cities and Wait, no, then it's exactly like back then sure, but then also obama office for nine on a month at this point obama vills. Yeah, let's blame. Yeah, it's his fault. Let's go ahead and do that dance You remember how hoover vills popped up immediately when hoover became president?

Yeah, you definitely didn't exacerbate a situation that was already demolished. Uh, yeah, sure Webster tarpley doesn't want to talk about that, but I also think the webster actually has some pretty good points So I don't want to clown on him too much. Uh-huh, but he's here and alex makes a terrible point Wait, so his name is webster tarpley webster tarpley. Are you sure he's not a character in a children's detective novel? I'm positive about that. I'm sure he has a show on the genesis communications network. Okay. Well, that makes sense Uh, you know, it's good to see obama's approval rating dropping between 15 and 20 points His first couple hundred days trying to ram everything through it looks like uh, things are going well We're still in dire situation. Wait a couple hundred days. We're still in march, right? Yeah march 10th, right?

He was Since the election, but Do you remember the date that a guy becomes president january 20th? Yeah, somehow I feel like that's Less than a couple hundred a month in two weeks. Maybe a month and a week So alex says that obama's approval ratings are down 15 to 20 points 15 to 20 points But that's in no way true According to gallup because they keep track of all this you could find all of it who just google it This is only true if you only factor in republicans

41 of republicans approved of obama on inauguration day as opposed to 26 percent on march 10th 2009 so that's a drop of 15 percent so republicans so 41 of republicans of those 41 15 percent were Hiding The fact that they don't like that. It's a black president for that day or maybe so that they will feel better about themselves for not being racist For not voting for obama. I mean who knows what the reason is but yeah 15 percent of republicans dropped since inauguration day How is his overall approval rating down? Well, it's not really all that important because now it does also isn't talking about the time frame of this drop

He's imagining it being like if he says obama's numbers are down 15 to 20 percent 20 percent's impossible It's 15 if you look at it. He's just embellishing that part but You wouldn't think that the time frame he's talking about is since inauguration day unless he explicitly said that but that is the only Metric that actually matches that 15 right it comes from the inauguration day to march 10th Or I think it's march 9th or something. It's you know, it's right in there. Sure. Sure. Sure. Um But then you have to look at approval ratings among democrats Went from inauguration day was 88 percent and it was 91 percent on march 10th among democrats

Sure among fine among independence, which is a gross lower number of people. Yeah, it went down 3 percent Sure. So all of it like no matter what if democrats stayed the same Republicans went down 15 percent and independence went down 3 percent You'd only have a drop of like in the gross probably 6 percent or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right So the but look this really Is important to me because I think that this feels a lot like how trump and his rambling press conference the other day Dude, I don't even want to he repeatedly said that he got 52 of the female vote in the 2016 election But that figure is just the percentage of white women that he got that voted for him. How did women of a

Non-white persuasion. It was less. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I don't think that this warped use of statistics is accidental People like alex and donald trump do not think that they're misrepresenting anything They just don't consider that people unlike themselves count. So when trump says that he got 52 percent of the female vote He's using the statistic of white women because that's all he cares about And when alex says that obama's numbers went down 15 percent He's pretending it's among everybody right among republicans, right? Because he just thinks that the only people that matter are people on the right He doesn't even think the rest of the world is relevant to the conversation of statistics

Consciously or unconsciously. It's hard to say. It's definitely true. It's hard to say which but no exactly. No, no, no You make an absolutely perfect point. Yeah regardless of whether or not they're thinking about it that way That's exactly what they're thinking whether it's conscious or not. It's a fucking huge problem so Jordan in this next clip we one of the big things that we've been trying to look into with this investigation is Primarily alex jones's journey towards soros being a demon Yes, and so far the only thing that we found is alex doesn't know who soros is for a very long time Then he's brought up by bob Chapman. Uh-huh, and then there's a clip from davos where he's talking about the

Um ramifications of the price of oil going down And alex believes this for no reason right to be evidence that george soros is admitting That he tanked oil in order to attack russia right venezuela Uh the when in actuality that was the dolex But also that wasn't anything that he said in that clip right we've been over that so now alex brings that back up with webster tarpley and Not going to get over his name being webster tarp. I understand that's a ridiculous name But he brings this back up and it leads me to believe based on the fact that we've been listening to these episodes

The only thing alex has ever said really about soros is in reference to this clip And again, he brings soros up, but it's only about this clip Well expanding on that george soros at the davis forum three weeks ago You may have seen the video admits they're lowering oil prices as a weapon against russia venezuela the middle east to to to accelerate the world depression Yes, i'm i'm sure that that he would he would say that That he didn't say that that's not in that clip This is i don't want to go gerbils on your ass, but this is the big lie

This is the strategy of the big lie He's played the clip on the show before and we've heard it. We understand what is being said Soros is not in any way saying That We did this we lowered the price of oil He's only saying here are there if the effects some of which are advantageous About the fact right that the price of oil has lowered right alex constantly repeating Soros admits that he lowered the price of gas in order to attack russia

Venezuela and these other countries That is the strategy of the big lie because eventually he's not going to play that clip anymore He didn't play the clip on this show. He hasn't played it since the last time we listened to it He's going to let that be the interpretation of the clip And i think he's going to build on that later in the same way that he does in 2018 with He's a nazi collaborator. Yeah, that's his big lie in the present. This is a small big lie If you if you repeat it long enough and loud enough People believe it's and confidently enough webster tarpoli. I believe has no idea what alex is talking about

He says i believe he would say that right He's just going along with it based on alex's confidence alex's confidence wins the day of letting webster tarpoli be uh All webster tarpoli knows about is words and protecting yourself against rain That's all he knows and uh spider Leadership spider leadership web stir. Oh, okay. All right Yeah How do you feel about that do you want to give yourself a minus one for that one? No, I feel

You feel fine. I feel like it's like all right push. All right. We'll call it a push though dealer got black Okay, all right. No one wins. No one wins. Okay. Um, so we got a couple clips left here Okay, uh, would you believe that in this next clip alex is going to try and sell his documentary? What? I will tell everybody out there listening that we may launch the obama deception early today or tomorrow Because it's too vital to wait at prisonplanet.tv He just keeps changing every the goalposts are Fluid, I mean we're over this we've talked about this a fucking hundred times on this episode already

But he keeps changing it. He's saying immediately. We're releasing it now. We gotta give ads out. Maybe friday. Maybe sunday who knows So when is he gonna release it though? 2009 like does he know? Yes, he does He knows this entire time. Yeah, he knows this entire time. I believe that to be the case I kind of man. I don't know. He's so Like especially during this time period. There's a part of me that is willing to be convinced by his

Absolute commitment to the lie. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I understand where like he's there's no Especially with this kind of situation is that there's no transparent bullshit because it does kind of Seem like there's an actual internal struggle going on between him And like this there's like good and evil like I want to release it now But at the same time I want to make the most money I can so I'll release it later and I'll sell it like this But I'm a good person and being a good person means taking down the new world order as soon as I can You know like that kind of that's interesting. That's a that's a sort of angle. I hadn't really considered Uh, mostly because

It's probably bullshit. Oh, yeah He wouldn't make the movie if he had some sort of like good angel on his shoulder Right. Oh, no, of course, of course Like it's only the possibility of two demons on his shoulders One of them is like wait and the other one's like do it now right The the self sabotaging demon versus the two voices self-interested demon the two voices of like You have principles. I want money like those two voices are that that dichotomy is

Ludicrous to me. Yeah, that's not possible. No, I agree But one of them could be like you make money more by waiting you make more money by jumping on people That's possible. Right. Those two voices Right, right. If he's at odds with those two Strategies, I believe that that's right. Right. That's possible. So we've got the goldman sacks demon on his arm And then we've got the It's 10 cents now, but one day it'll be a thousand dollars. Oh, it could be It's I mean, who knows

So you like to make fun of webster tarpley's name and I understand why I can't imagine how you what why would I I want to make fun of that name webster funny name Tarpley weird What are you someone who helps tents stay dry? Tarpley no, he's somebody who carries the characteristics of a tarp one. He is a very tarply. Yeah, so I think that most of his interview is pretty terrible like this obamaville is is wack as hell, uh, but Towards the end of this they're talking about the uh, the financial crisis that is upon america And webster has two things that he says

That are anathema to alex's worldview alex does not push back on either of them And I kind of agree with webster tarpley. Okay Think a lot of people are looking at apocalyptic scenarios, right that that's going to come to some kind of civil strife I don't think we're there yet. I think it's time to try politics and when we see the globalist are hyping that Well, you've got to have your own program to get out of the depression. I have one right wipe out derivatives These the fed issue zero credit production Uh credit for production have emergency federal leave relief and set up a new world monetary system four points

You get out of the depression. That's the big prize He said at the end of that set up a new world monetary system How can alex let someone say that on his fucking show? Well, I mean the new world monetary system is gold Well, no, it's not based on even what he's saying. He's talking about government regulation Well, yeah, he's I mean, that's the way to get out of a depression now. You bust the fed and all that sure But who does that federal government? Hey, the fed gets busted by the patriots dam. So then you have the federal government come in and bring in all this zero interest Money that it's got to come from somewhere. Don't want to talk about that

Push towards the people that which is fine. I mean we could talk about that But alex would fucking hate that and then the idea that he's saying at the end a new world financial order Or financial system. Yeah Monetary monetary system Webster tarpoli just seems to be saying things that alex should not agree with But because he respects him and he's already built him up as like a credible source He can't push back on him legit saying new world monetary system on his fucking show That's crazy. Right. That's crazy and it gets worse. Listen to this next clip that webster has to uh

Get put in your ears Well, you you don't get out of the depression unless you make these changes Uh, there is no automatic exit from the depression. There is no business cycle It's going to lift you out of the depression and i'm also afraid there is no free market Solution to the depression if you call for the free market under these circumstances basically, uh, Making everything much worse. Uh, you know think of the food stamps right there three million people in texas Who are living thanks to food stamps and if you say free market take that away well That's going to be the end of a lot of them

So I think that the question is uh, how long will it take for people to throw off the chains of ideology and all the Illusions and all the claptrap of the past 40 years Wow, holy shit webster tarpoli against all odds Making good points dunks of basketball making good points Yeah, a man named webster tarpoli should not be allowed to dunk a basketball I don't know like I don't know enough. That's a man who played basketball in the 20s I've I've heard a number of like uh appearances by uh tarpoli on alex's show and most of the time it's just sort of been like

I don't believe your sources. I don't care about what you're talking about. This is like a less interesting larry nickles or something Yeah, yeah, and and so to have this instance where it's like absolutely the idea that he has someone on Who's a expert of sorts who's saying first of all new world? uh monetary system and then advocating for social benefit uh systems and say Government intervention and saying that there is no free market solution to the financial crisis that we find ourselves a stimulus package and saying uh earlier, um Just that that you need regulation the idea that like you got to get rid of these derivatives You got to figure out how the market can operate. Right. He's advocating for bigger government

uh monetary system globally and uh Government handouts. Here's what's the most amazing social safety net. What's most amazing to me alex doesn't fight back at all Is that what webster tarpoli? Uh, just God, I can't believe i'm saying that name in a serious rolled off your tongue What he is advocating for is something that is far to the left of what the actual stimulus package Fucking did yeah, it was far to the left of the fucking bailout What he is saying is literally we need to keep the banks from being allowed to operate the way that they are

As opposed to giving them a giant fucking bailout So that they could continue operating that the way they always have been. Yeah, that is far to the left of the liberal president We ostensibly or I apologize tyrannical overlord. We ostensibly elected in 2008 It's an asshole on alex jones's show Fucking nailed it. So jordan. We got one. Yes. We got one more clip left dan jordan Dan i'm gonna play you this last clip Jordan. Yeah Dan

Dan What was the last time we went to court dan We're back to the beginning. Am I in a time paradigm? I think we might be so we get one more last clip That's what happens when you get a guy named webster tarpoli on our show It's it's almost like we said it three times He has bewitched us So they have one we have one more clip and what do you know it's kind of selling the obama You're the worst ladies and gentlemen. You're the worst dan

If i'm able to in the future i'll tell you the top of dirty tricks that are going on I can't get into that right now on air, but know this the obama deception will go out Now will come hell or high water as they say later they could be out today could be out tomorrow I might be out today wait till sunday because I really want to put out some more of the trailers and build The excitement because that's what will have a bigger effect. The raptor's coming too dan, but that's that's that's it. That's it That that last 30 seconds is like it just articulates exactly It's coming hell or high water. It's coming eventually. Maybe it'll be soon But also I fucking want to get those trailers out because that's going to make the release even through a

glass darkly It could come at any moment Man this episode is Like looking through my notes. It's literally like chicanery is going on the obama deception is going to be out The obama deception is going to be out. It is out. It is out. It's not out. It was out, but now it's out Uh canada is going to control you the queen runs everything Uh fred toben holocaust denier or holocaust supporter Uh red beckhamon red

Jesus tyrants treason obamas Enemies list. Oh, actually. I was wondering who is on obama's enemies list Do you actually not know about that who we talked about that on our live show in chicago? No, no, no I know we I was right. Bart was on there right right. No, no, no I wasn't talking about obama's enemies list as a alexis it. I was like obama probably has an enemies list, right? I would assume everybody has an enemies list

I don't have an enemies list. I don't either, but it's in my head I only have one enemy that is on a list and I don't know if I want to say his name. His name is dan brennan and He has some great impressions No, it is not how dare you that's a good point His wife makes him do family guy No, it is not his wife. It is him. He sells his wife out on stage. I know it's so terrible. It's brutal. Anyway guys, we have a website Knowledge right.com. Indeed. You can you can follow us on twitter at that knowledge underscore fight

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It's got an arslan. Do you know arslan? Oh, I know arslan. Here's what I say about our podcast. He's on my enemy's list No, no, of course not arslan Crazy, I agree with that completely. But also he had a thing that he always said on stage Yeah, and when he was too drunk to communicate and you just be talking to him You're like if you get it, you get it. If you don't get it, forget it And that's what I would say is our principle with our podcast If you get it, you get it. If you don't get it, forget it Shout out arslan. Here's what's great about arslan. What?

He probably didn't kill a guy. That's probably true. But alex jones probably did Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you