Knowledge Fight - #214: Cruel Parallels

Episode Date: October 10, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss some curious thematic similarities between the broadcasts Alex Jones did during the Kavanaugh confirmation vote and during the 2016 election. While both were ostensibly a...bout a major political event, each was really about celebrating cruelty and spouting closed-minded nonsense.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding Alex. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed. We are Dan. Yeah, Dan. Yes. What was the last time you went outside? Well, last time on outside earlier today, I went down to the store, tried to get some vape cartridges, got my card declined, had a great time. Life is wonderful. It's a good day. Yep. You every man. I don't even want to come here from work on the fucking train. Everything sucks. It's not great. Going to work sucks. Everything sucks. But hopefully
Starting point is 00:00:45 this won't. Hey, everybody out there. Hello. Welcome back to the show. This is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones. Exactly. So hey, sorry, we didn't have an episode on Monday. There were some technical issues, some personnel issues. Is that what we would call them? Okay. So we had an episode for Monday, but we did not record. Well, we recorded it on Saturday immediately following Brett Kavanaugh's sham existence and revealing that the Supreme Court is non existent anymore as a check on any sort of executive power. And we split a bottle of whiskey. We may have gotten a little bit too fucked up. We had a great first 45 minutes, I would say. Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:01:33 But then even beyond that too, there were technical issues that I just was not keeping track of because of right. Right. It was also dropping the ball as an engineer. Yeah. But when I listened back to it, I thought about like the possibility of like, maybe we can put this out, but there was something that wasn't quite right. So we were on that episode, we covered Kavanaugh's Alex's live stream of Kavanaugh's confirmation hearing, not the hearing, I guess the vote as it were. And there was something that just wasn't quite right. There was an element that was missing. And so today what we're going to be doing is going over what I believe is the element that was missing of that while covering the important points of Alex's
Starting point is 00:02:13 live stream of Kavanaugh's vote, as it were. I know that's a little bit complicated, a little convoluted, maybe to understand off the top, I promise things will make sense as we go along. And you will see what that was missing from our original. But it's one of those things that on our show, it's kind of difficult to cover like immediate news because of just the time constraints and the contextualization that needs to be done, the pulling pieces from us. If we rush things, sometimes I think that we miss elements. And that's something I hope to correct. Yeah, that's why we don't do a new show. Right. Right. It's hard. And we have nothing but respect for those that do. I have nothing but respect for a couple of new donors.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Hey, that's a great transition, Dan. Yeah. So today, Jordan, I'd like to say thank you to a couple of new people who have signed up with the team. First of all, I'd like to say thank you so much, Stella. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you, Stella. Thank you very much, Stella. And for anyone else who would like to see a groove return, please donate to the show. Yeah, that's how you get your groove back. Indeed. Angela Bassett also supports the show. Does she? Nope. Morris Chestnut. Morris Day and the Time Do. Forrest Whitaker does. I believe it. No, he directed Waiting to Exhale. So actually, it's the last king of Scotland who does. Yes. Idiomeme. Yeah. Less fun than Forrest Whitaker. Also, let's say thank you so much to Erin. Thank
Starting point is 00:03:48 you. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much, Erin. Also, one last person to give a shout out to, someone who took their donation and bumped it up. We appreciate it also very much. Ian, you are now a technocrat. I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go honky and Stella, you're brilliant. Someone, someone, Sotomight sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Shark. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little, little kitty baby. I don't want to hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you, Ian. Thank you very much, Ian. And thank you to everybody who supports the show. If you're listening and you'd like to support the show, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking that support the show button. And we
Starting point is 00:04:31 would appreciate it. And also, you know what? If you can't support the show, find the nearest person with disposable income. Don't even tell them about the show. Just tell them to click the support the show button. We don't need listeners. Actually, we do a lot. So tell people about the show. Sure. Yeah. All the above. Yeah. We appreciate it. So Jordan, today I'm going to walk you through this. It's going to be confusing, probably. It's going to be slightly nonlinear, but it all makes sense when the bow is wrapped towards the end. I think hopefully we'll find out. We'll see. Anyway, here's an out of context drop from some of the stuff we're going to be going over today. In what world do you want what someone else has got unless it's a gorgeous broad?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Yeah. All right. Now, this is why we can't release our drunk episode. All right. Listen to that shit. Well, we don't want a Monday episode from us that sounds like a whatever episode from him. I'll tell you, we did not sound like that. And we weren't talking about, Hey, isn't it cool to steal someone's very attractive broad? I don't know. I don't remember. We could have been. We were okay. We were not good. So Jordan, today what we're going to be doing primarily is looking at some of the harsh parallels between the day that Alex Jones celebrated on air on his live stream, the confirmation of Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court and some of his celebration from the 2016 election night. So I went back and I tried to find the entire video of Alex Jones on
Starting point is 00:06:03 election night. So he did a 52 hour live stream. Sure. Great. Which of course is too long. That's like three hours of Alex and 49 hours of his underlings filling in and being terrible. Yeah. But I couldn't find some of the like really, really toxic stuff because Alex's YouTube channel is gone. So Oh, yeah, that is an issue. So most of the videos that he had uploaded have all disappeared. And a lot of the people who have posted in four Wars coverage of election night ends right after Trump gives his victory speech. But that's not when the show ended, right? The show kept going. And everyone was celebrating. And a lot of the stuff that I've discussed about the idea of them watching videos of Hillary supporters crying and stuff like that is from that. So thankfully,
Starting point is 00:06:49 I didn't have to rewatch that stuff necessarily. That stuff towards the end of the night where it became clear what the game was. But going back and listening to a lot of that election night stuff, I realized that's the missing piece of this. Seeing the parallels between these two very major celebrations that Alex has had, I think give us the key that we need to unlock what he's really talking about in some circumstances. That's interesting that people who would keep those clips would end it at the election, like would end it at the announcement, right? Because that is like, we're ending it at the end of America, but they forgot to watch the beginning of a cruel, cruel, cruel replacement. Right. It's far more important to see the world that we are going to
Starting point is 00:07:42 become within 10 minutes of the world we were ending. The only thing that remains is a video that you can find on Paul Joseph Watson's YouTube channel, because that one didn't get taken down. I don't know why. How is that possible? Not sure. But there is a video that he has about like, oh, look at these crybaby Hillary fans. And so there is a lot of video on there of, you know, the same video that they were mocking in studio on election night with like way sound effects of it interspersed with pictures of crying babies and stuff like that. So you get the sense of it and I rewatch that and I'm like, oh, okay, this is bringing back some of that. But it's not good for our purposes, because it's not the same audio of them in the studio. It's just a Paul Joseph Watson report.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So where I start here with from this clip is from the Kavanaugh confirmation stream where Alex sort of lays out my thesis for you. So infowars listeners to the screen please. They're almost done. This is your victory, America. It's just like election night 20 months ago, the Democrats are crapping their drawers. Mr. Schumer, this is the first trigger. The next is when we win in a landslide with a red wave in 30 days. Unless their election fraud defeats us, we are going to win. This is a political realignment against real tyranny. So he made the comparison for us. This is like election night. Now one of the things that's really interesting in that clip is that he is making the preemptive
Starting point is 00:09:17 excuse for the midterms that if they're cheating works, then it'll stop our next phase of this great triggering or whatever he wants to call it. Now that's interesting, because I went back and at the beginning of Alex's stream, he didn't think Trump was going to win. Even on election day, he didn't think Trump was going to win. Listen to this shit. But I look at how Christians in the West ended slavery, tried to end sexism and tried to build everybody up and the very people we tried to build up just roll reversed with the Christians who tried to end all the tyranny and they reversed and said, you're the slave now. You're the subhuman. You're the reason there's problems. You're the white male. You're the Christian. Oh boy. And
Starting point is 00:10:09 we're just standing here going, I just wanted freedom. They say it's over. I'll hit learn and blow you away as they destroy the way out of the fucking gate, Dan. It's like a right out of the fucking gate on the planet that creates the science, the technology, the wealth that cares about people that wants to build. No one else does. It's all barbarism and be for yourself and it's all gone. And I, I'm not going to pray on you, but I've got to, I've got to pull back. I've got to, I've got to isolate myself and just let you kill yourself. I've got to, okay, you want squalor and death. I, I'm sorry, the vampires will now have you. I'm sorry. So you see there at the end, I'm sorry, the vampires are now going to have you because
Starting point is 00:10:52 he's preemptively, emotionally preparing the narrative to be Clinton is going to win. And at the beginning, I should have prepared you for that in some way. Nah, nah, Dan. Nah, Dan, go ahead and email me that clip so I can play it during my fucking hanging of myself Christ. If anybody, anybody fucking tells me that white Christian males are the ones who wanted to free us. Absolutely. I want to fucking kill myself. They only wanted freedom for everybody's murder, suicide, a crime. Yeah. Uh, they, yeah, not for me. It's two of them. Uh, they wanted freedom. And so they, they worked to, uh, you know, help women be equal and they got rid of slavery because they are. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:38 Christians, Christians did it, but then the people that they tried to uplift, which Alex is talking specifically about minorities and women that support Hillary Clinton have turned around and are now trying to, uh, they flipped the script on the great Christian men who are a spaceship in society. All the rest of the world is barbarism. Only white Christian men are really the, the people who, eh, you know, they want to go around and create society. They want to build things. This is nuts. There isn't, there's no, there's no way to, to be like, well, actually, and then read a history book to that. That is a man who that's, that's life, life is meaningless. Life is meaningless to him beyond being white Christian male. And I, I, I, I, what do you,
Starting point is 00:12:24 why, why are we bothering with these people? Well, now you even see in that clip, like how important the victim-ness is to that identity that he has of the white Christian male. He, he has to package it within the idea of like, we tried to help you so much and now you've turned on us. Why would you do that? Really? I really, I really, really have changed. And from the beginning of this podcast to now, to go the last five minutes to go. No, no, no, from, from, from where we were. This is what I'm saying. I'm not saying why are we bothering with these people. I'm saying, why are we, why are we reading? Oh, here's what Trump people think. You know what Trump people think. Being white is great. Every profile of a Trump voter should just be like, Hey, you know
Starting point is 00:13:09 how great being white is? These people think it is. So Alex isn't making a lot of sense there. Pretty dumb about white Christian males and what have you. But he goes on to say a few more things. This is still from his, his live stream on the election day. And he has some more really stupid things to say within the context again of him believing that Trump isn't going to win. I'm sorry. The vampires will now have you. I'm sorry. It's what you wanted. I'm sorry. You won't get tax cuts. You won't get prosperity, but you'll get CNN and NPR telling you how you're in charge and you'll drive around your car in a fantasy that you're in charge. So you're about 40 as a woman. And then you'll try to find a man and men won't want to be with you because they're scared and
Starting point is 00:13:57 then they were never made to be men. They don't want a commitment. Plus you don't want either. So you'll just be all alone. It won't matter that you'll become old and worship the state. And your body will be put into liquid acid and dissolved for fertilizer to grow the elite crops. And you never existed. Your entire genetic line, all your ancestors will die with you. But you weren't the villain. You were just the species women being killed. So this grave marker for your death and the xenocide of the planet will be your victory as you die full of morphine worshiping Satan. And so it's kind of true perception's reality for the slave
Starting point is 00:14:46 that you never existed. And you took the Renaissance and you threw it away and you attacked your own species and you joined with the corporate state and the lies. You worship al-Qaeda. You worship ISIS. You worship burqas. You worship anything destructive of the West because the West is such a beautiful goddess. You were ashamed of yourself beholden. Okay, that's a little silly. Does he know what xenocide means? I got distracted by all of that. Look, whatever he said. Right, right. Whiteness is great. Sure, sure, sure. No, no, that's more male. No, no, no. You have more like, hey, you women are stupid. You should be breeding absolutely. You should be getting, you should be prioritizing getting with a good
Starting point is 00:15:39 Western man. Oh, because when you're 40, they're not going to want to be with you. That makes sense. No, and then you'll be so haggard and all the men who will be around who will be available for you cucks anyway. So then you'll get into serving the state and then they'll dip you in acid. And that's, and that's when the Muslims take over the West. Done. But like for real, does he know what xenocide means? I'm not sure I do. Look, I mean, it, I mean, it literally means the genocide of aliens, the Zeno side. Oh, Xenomorph. That makes sense. There you go. Yeah. So, so even, so even while he's saying like the xenocide of earth, that either suggests that we're working with aliens to get rid of humans, or we're fighting against aliens, or maybe all
Starting point is 00:16:23 people who aren't white people are aliens. All non white people are aliens. I think he believes the globalists are working with aliens for sure. And he sees himself as fighting against aliens. So that word might actually be appropriate. I think, I think white males maybe are aliens. Like maybe we're not from here. Maybe we're not even supposed to be here. Okay. Maybe we're not. Let's get a, let's get a summer home. Let's all get a summer home on Venus. No, we can't live on Venus. Mars. Can't live on Mars. Where, where else you got? I think that's a great place for white males to be. Inside the moon. Yeah. Hollow it out. Hollow it out. Put them all in there. Keep them safe and warm. Okay. That's one, that's one possibility. Put a little glass cage over it so we can go and
Starting point is 00:17:11 visit every now and again and be like, Hey, look at you guys. How you doing down there? Oh, how's your renaissance going? You guys are doing great. You're so cute. I think another possibility it wouldn't involve space colonies. I want a space colony, dad. Might just involve empathy and people growing up a little bit, but when they learn that, when they learn that they can come back. All right. All right. Fair enough. As long as there's an escape clause to the, yeah. Oh, no, absolutely. It's a rehabilitation colony. Okay. You know, you know how when you have a certain group of people that you need to take to a place where they're separated from and you, it's like a, oh no, now I know what it is. Never mind. It sounds like you're drifting so far
Starting point is 00:17:58 left. You're ending up in another fashion. Now I'm, now I'm getting what that kind of sounds like and I don't think it's a good thing. I mean, it's not all bad. It's not all bad. It's not a good thing. All right. All right. There are degrees, dad. So it's interesting here to hear that on the election day in 2016, Alex was pretty, you know, emotionally prepared for Trump to lose. And in preparation for that, he's doing all this like, oh, you idiots, you've destroyed the West because you women are harpies and all you blacks that we wrote us white Christians rose out of slavery. Yeah, you've turned on us. You've turned on us. How do you not realize that we ended slavery? Right. Come on. Right. Yeah. Give us credit for that at least. So Alex is in that place and it's
Starting point is 00:18:51 super weird that as the, as the day goes on and it becomes more clear that Trump is going to win, he changes over the course of it a little bit. But something that I find supremely interesting is that there are a couple of direct parallels, linguistically and stylistically between the Kavanaugh confirmation stream and the election 2016 stream. Here's the first of them. This is from the Kavanaugh hearing. This will be a day long remembered. We've seen the end. Hillary Clinton will soon see the end of George Soros. I apologize. That was from 2016, the election day. This is from the Kavanaugh. This will be a day long remembered. We've seen the end of Hillary. We'll soon see the end of Soros.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You need a writer, dude. You can hear a pen drop. We've paid a lot for this though, folks, and it didn't perfect, but at least they won't take the guns and force our kids to change their sexual gender because that's their mission is total human domination of biological operations. So the only difference is it gets a little bit more specific. I mean, you're right. The Cokes have probably paid at least $1.2 billion on this. So it was pretty expensive. Right. But I don't think that they're fighting back against Soros wanting to make your kids trans or something like that. We don't know. When was the last time the Koch brothers gave an interview? That's a good question. I don't know. It's been a long time, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:24 See, there we go. I don't know what they're imagining they're fighting back against, but I'm talking about what more is the real world thing they're fighting back against is women's rights, climate change, unions, those sorts of things. You know, you really got to fight back against climate change. I mean, you got to fight back against doing anything about climate change. You got to make sure that, I don't know, a decade from now, only you and your rich pals will have sources of fresh water. I think that's a smart idea. Sure. Because it's going to happen anyways. Right. You know, you might as well consolidate your water now. All that is is a preemptive economic maneuver.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Oh, yeah. No, it's a great idea. Very smart. Yeah. So that is super interesting to me that we hear in both cases him doing his Vader voice and he's saying the exact same thing. We've seen the end of Clinton. We'll soon see the end of George Soros. That's wild. That alone is kind of like, huh, because I don't hear him say that a lot. He does the Lord like the Vader voice a lot or the Emperor Palpatine, the like, you have done well Lord Vader. Yeah, he does that a lot, but I don't hear him say those specific words that often. It's interesting that Wait, isn't that supposed to be Churchill? I don't think so. I think that's that's Star Wars. That's Star Wars shit, man. No, the today is a day that will be long remembered.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Uh, maybe, maybe it is, but it's way too close to his Palpatine for me to think it's I well, because I've also heard his Churchill and that's not close. Okay, fair enough. Sorry, they all just kind of blend together. He does mix metaphors and characters. So I mean, who knows. So that's one linguistic similarity. And then here's another one that he uses that's very, very specific. I want to salute you all. I drug my ass up 25 years ago as a high school graduate. They were trying to ban guns in Texas, send me on hose and I, I decided I'd kick their ass because I looked at my enemy and they were bug-eyed pussies and we've stomped them forever because big jackass crews of whems get together and they think they can piss on people.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So what he seems to be offended by, are you sure it's not the bug-eyed pussies who want to pee on people? That makes, that makes more sense. Big old groups of you get the, you get the, you rethra right in the bug-eyed nose. That's where you go. It's a, it's possible, but he uses that what he seems to be so offended by or put off by is the idea that these groups go around and they want to piss all over everybody. So that was from the 2016 election stream. Here is him on the Kavanaugh vote day. The Democrats remember the last 100 years when America was asleep and they just keep thinking, God, we had them dominated. We were beating the hell out of them. We were asleep. We weren't awake. You weren't intimidating us. Now that we're awake and you're
Starting point is 00:23:32 like slapping us and pissing on our face and trying to destroy our families. All you've got us doing is 24 hours a day thinking about how we get politically our arms around your neck. So he's again constantly obsessed with the idea that people are peeing on him. He seems to think that is the way he expresses people doing them wrong. They pee on him. Well, I mean, yeah, but that's, that's a taboo that I'm sure he can enjoy. You know, you, you get, you, that's how a lot of people get out some of the things that they're afraid of, you know, you turn it into a sexual pleasure thing. I've seen documentaries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Oh man. Is that the theory you're going with? Yeah, I'm going to go with Alex Jones likes to get peed on
Starting point is 00:24:19 and that's why he's so unhappy with, that's why he's got that. This is not a kink-shaming podcast, right? Exactly. No, I'm just saying that what, I don't think we should be cruel or mean. I think you should very joyfully, if you see Alex Jones in the street, ask him politely if he would like, if you, if he would like you to pee on him. I think that that's probably a good resolution. I think that's a good idea. I think all of our New Year's resolutions should be offered to pee on Alex. If Alex Jones is anywhere new, you just be like, Hey man, I know what's up. Do you want me to pee on you? We're having a good night. Maybe everybody's having fun here. Let's, you want me to be on your leg? Yeah. Let me just pee on
Starting point is 00:24:56 you a little bit. So with your consent, of course, of course. So that, that aside, one of the, one of the interesting things I think is to look at stakes and look at like what Alex is presenting to the world as what is going to happen in various circumstances. So here is a clip from the 2016 election day where he's talking about, so you know how, if you recall that day, it appeared the Trump was going to win and Hillary didn't immediately concede. A little bit later in the night, she called Trump and conceded and Trump gave his speech. She didn't give a speech until the morning, but Alex in the, in the intervening period is convinced that she's not going to concede and it's war. So he, he comes up with this theory
Starting point is 00:25:50 that Trump needs to immediately come out and give a speech declaring himself the winner, because possession is nine tenths of the law, which he says twice, which doesn't make any sense. But he has this idea that if he can get Trump to give this speech announcing that he's won, Hillary can't undo that or something like that. Yeah. No, that's, that's in the law. Don't you remember that? Sure. It's a, it's the law of a dibs. I believe that's the dibs law. Yeah. Yeah. Not at all. Something that an unelected ruler might do as a trick. Hey, and frankly, I'm sure there's a power grab ploy. I'm sure there's a case right now being litigated in the lower courts that's going to make it all the way up to the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh is
Starting point is 00:26:32 going to be the deciding vote on dibs are real. And as long as you say you're president, you're president seat back is going to be like that's going in the constitution. Dude, no backsies. That is going to be a crime. Absolutely. Absolutely. Baxies is totally going to be a crime. So it's kind of, it's kind of weird and very stupid. And Alex keeps trying to get Roger Stone to call Steve Bannon and tell him to give a speech, give the speech already. Like that sort of thing. It's very weird. But here is Alex expressing some of his fears about what could happen if Trump doesn't declare himself the winner. I don't mean to interrupt you, but CNN's reporting continue. Clinton will not speak tonight. This is officially from a democratic
Starting point is 00:27:10 operative axle rod on the Clinton news network. So the Clinton news network has said they will not concede. Trump must now immediately come out and say he is the winner or she will have Obama launch a nuclear war tomorrow. And by the way, I've got a bad feeling. I'm not saying that for effect. People know I don't play games. Okay. There's one thing I don't play games. People better get that through their heads. He only plays games. But you have there, if he doesn't give his speech, he she is going to have Obama go nuke somebody in order to make sure that he doesn't become president, I guess, or something along those lines. He's going to nuke. I don't know. It's unclear. I think he I think at another point he says that she's going to nuke
Starting point is 00:27:55 Russia, probably. But who cares? So now if you were to nuke somebody, that would be a lot of deaths, certainly. It'd be a ton. That's a great song title, though. What? If you're going to nuke somebody, that's going to be a lot of death. Yeah, exactly. Especially with it. No, but we make it a slow. We make it like a slow jam. We make it like a dire straight song. You know what I'm saying? We like spread it out. There's some nice guitar licks in there. Sure. Sure. Like the Sultans of Swing. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You get it going. Sure. I'm into it. Let's do that. End this podcast and write that song. Let's write that song. So that would cause a lot of deaths. Undoubtedly. It would be a bunch, be a whole bunch. That's his
Starting point is 00:28:41 real negative view of what the globalists are going to do. So that makes it really weird to hear Alex say something like this on the day that Kavanaugh gets into the Supreme Court, describing his best case scenario of what is going to happen now that the Patriots are in charge of everything. So there is a path. If we take it, because God gives us free will, that has limited problems. Still some big wars, billions dead, but limited. Believe me, compared to the other futures. Space time continuum. Which I have seen swimming. Because again, I am a psychic and I have said that multiple times. There is a vision towards a real victory in a future. And it's limited, but it's like taking a rifle and not thinking about it
Starting point is 00:29:28 and shooting bulls-eye 200 yards. Open sights. It's like you didn't think about it. Come on out. You shot three rounds of bulls-eye. Try it again for a year. You can't do it. You've got to just decide you want it spiritually. We'll have it. Or there's other paths. And I wanted to moralize the enemy by telling him the truth right now, giving him a big secret, which they don't have next level vision. That's why they're so pissed at me and others. In about 95% of possible futures, we win. Now, there's the horror of realizing how many people get lost in a way to that. And if they do succeed, what would be like? So his nightmare scenario on election night is Hillary is going to nuke someone to make
Starting point is 00:30:16 sure Trump doesn't become president. That would be less deaths than multiple billions of people dying, which he's then describing in a more present day as being the best case scenario for his movement surviving and winning. That's what a fascist thinks. Sure. That's exactly what a fascist thinks. It's going to be a lot of deaths. Listen, we're going to win. 95% chance of all futures. And the only way, look, the best way for you to do that, the way that, you know, results in the least these violence is if you just let us win now. Otherwise, we're going to have to, we're going to have to do some of those other 95% futures wherein I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:31:01 if you're dissenting, I mean, we're going to win. And maybe if you're in the way, you know, I mean, a few billion people are going to die, but we're going to win. Boy, it's like that, isn't it? Yeah, it's really like that. It's like, if we are to win, it is going to require us, the team who is going to win, to inflict harm. At least, at least two billion people dying, like, what is that, about a third of the world's populations got to die right around there in his, in his best case scenario, that's incredibly fucked up. And we like, he doesn't believe in climate change. So he doesn't believe it. Like that could be a
Starting point is 00:31:42 ostensible argument or something he's trying to talk about, but he doesn't believe that shit. So he thinks that there's going to be two billion people dead just from like, we're going to have to kill all the Muslims. That's probably what he thinks. Yep. Well, they're going to get in the way of our side winning. I have very little doubt that that's at least a large piece of what he's imagining. The best case scenario is that he's describing there, which I think is profoundly scarier than his very baseless idea that Hillary Clinton was going to have Barack Obama nuke somebody. Does it, does he, does he have like a vision for after the billions of people die?
Starting point is 00:32:23 Like he's his vision. So far, his state is libertarian utopia of some sort where everyone has guns. Everyone has their own money slave. Well, that too. Everyone. Yeah. I mean, sure. Slavery is just sort of like, that's just an economic agreement that anyone could enter into. You know, duress isn't a real thing. You've got a choice. Yeah. And every God gave us free will. Everybody would have their own competing currencies that you'd have to spend almost your entire time trying to figure out how to transfer among each other. You couldn't usually, I mean, if you're in like, let's say Illinois, you couldn't use Missouri dollars in Illinois. Or if you do, they'd probably be worth less than they are in Missouri. So I mean, that
Starting point is 00:33:04 would be a fun utopia to live in. I bet Missouri dollars would be worth less in Illinois than Illinois dollars. Depends on the part of Illinois. All I'm saying is I'm just, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that Missouri's economy is not going to be backed up by the Fed or the Missouri Fed or the Missouri state. It's interesting. You brought that into it because that will also be a part of it. There will be rogue banks and rogue courts where if you, you know, if you have a dispute with someone, you have your favorite court, you go and appeal your case in front of they probably have their own court. Yeah. But that's the same thing as it is now. It's a little more central. It's a little bit, it's slightly on paper. It's better. Hey, you know, the justice
Starting point is 00:33:47 system is a check on it. If we end up in like some sort of a libertarian fantasy world where there's a bunch of competing currencies that screw up all sorts of transactions, everybody's hostily antagonistic towards each other. You know, if we end up in that sort of thing, if only a couple billion people have to die to get us there, hooray. That's fantastic. It sounds like the worst. I mean, a lot of people are going to die in the visa versus mastercard wars in order to figure out who becomes the dominant credit card holder. Oh sure. I mean, why wouldn't a credit agency get an army? Yeah, no, absolutely. I'm, I'm a little shocked. Visa doesn't already have a bit of an army tucked away somewhere. Yeah. So like that, that's all
Starting point is 00:34:31 incredibly insane. The idea that is like good scenario involves that much death is that leads me to believe. I think, I think you probably got it perfect. That's almost a threat. It is exactly a threat. It feels a lot like a threat. It's exactly a threat. So now we get to another like real direct similarity between the Kavanaugh swearing in vote day and the 2016 election day. There's something that Alex brings up about the people who are against his side is very, very similar. Here is him talking about the stuff on the, the Kavanaugh vote day. This isn't great. So about an hour to go tonight, Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed and defense of free speech, defense of due process, defense of statute of limitations is in place. You have seen a
Starting point is 00:35:29 collection of Democratic Party operatives try to block the nomination of a good man to Supreme Court, but really here is a referendum on the intimidation and the bullying of the left. That's what's exciting. You've got all these admittedly George Soros and Democratic Party and Chinese government funded. That's even in mainstream news groups where they kill gays and enslaved women and forcibly abort little girls and kill little baby girls. You've got these women out here on a high horse that believing they're fighting the evil that is men, their father, their brother, their son. It's insane. We're all one species. Some women are good. Some women are bad. Some men are good. Some men are bad. So he invalidates criticism by sort of implying first of all that
Starting point is 00:36:21 everybody's on everybody, like all these payrolls, which is all great. That's just sort of standard stuff. But the thing that's really specific there is the idea that these women are just mad at their dads. That idea is so insulting, so offensive. I'm a big fan of him immediately invalidating what he's saying in the middle of it. Like, why are these women angry? Like, yeah, because you just said with absolute disdain, you just said just these women as though you're like there. Why are these? I mean, I have to call them people, I suppose. If I must, why are these so species? I mean, we're all the same species. And they're good women and bad women. You know, the good women are the ones who do whatever I tell them to do. And the bad women are the one I yell, lock her up at.
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's crazy. Yeah. Why don't these women like us? They must be mad at their dads. Like, can't possibly be I'm an asshole. That kind of rhetoric that he's putting out, it's like, I think anybody hearing that sort of shit, it's like, Hey, I have a valid complaint, you're just mad at your dad. Now I have two valid complaints. Exactly. So in that clip, he's expressing that these women are just mad at their dads, which is offensive and a horrible position to take. But it's interesting because around the time of the election, there are also some women who were pretty mad. And yet these things to say about the Democrats. And then Mike down, because you will not believe how this clip ends. And the Democrats are running around thumbing at the mouth, as they always do. That's their
Starting point is 00:37:56 culture. Most of them don't have parents. I feel sorry for them. They think it mistakes their mommy. That's a little baby duck that thinks an 18 wheeler is his daddy. It's, it's, you know, they've, they've had self identified with it as it runs them over on I 35. And they've, they've, they've, they've imprinted on a fiery furnace. Donald Trump elected president, even AP saying it, but at 136 central, 236 Eastern, we're not hearing it. They'll probably announce that Russians, new New York and Hillary wasn't there and Donald was. And that's the end of it. All I know is we're going to continue on and
Starting point is 00:38:41 we're going to fight the new world order because we believe in prosperity and we don't want to rape you and your family. And that's why we have free shipping running for the next few days. Bunch of big discounts, 30 to 40%. That's why we have free shipping. That's why that's why we have free shipping. We have free shipping because we don't want to rape your kids. You know, Sephora charges for shipping. Oh my God. That's why they charge for shipping. Anybody who charges for shipping rape it. That was so wild to me. Like that hearing that I was like, that no ad pivot can ever touch that. That's crazy. We don't want to rape your kids. That's why we have free shipping. It's the that's obvious. It's the that's why that's specifically.
Starting point is 00:39:30 There's only one reason. Maybe there's another reason the use of those words in that like hinge that pivot hinge is so crazy because you could just, you could disconnect the thoughts and have the same effect. You could be like, we're going to keep fighting because we know that they want to rape your family and we're not into that. By the way, by the way, would have been nice. Completely unrelated. We have free shipping. I even would have gone with just an also and also would have been fantastic too. Not if that's why by the by we have free shipping going on right now. Exactly. 10 amount of nothing. We have any who's all that we got. We got free shipping. That's why that's why gross. We believe in prosperity and not raping children.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That's why it's 20% off on our weird supplements. Jesus. So in there that you hear that like, you know, these, these Democrats who are protesting against Trump, they just don't have dads. They don't have a, they don't have parents and it's so sad. They're like ducks. All right, man. It's, it's a good way to sort of empathy, dehumanize your, your opponents or people who believe other things than you. It's a good way for me to no longer have empathy for him. Yeah. Yeah. That is, it really takes the empathy out of you when somebody's just like, ah, the only reason you're mad is because you're, you don't have parents and definitely not because we're going to steal, steal your rights. Yeah. Yeah. So here is another, uh, couple of clips
Starting point is 00:41:02 where Alex is saying almost identical things during the Kavanaugh stream and the election stream. This one here is from the Kavanaugh stream. Those of us that know real power know that we could rule the planet if we only submitted to the Lucifer. We don't do that. We build a challenging system to that countervailing system of God. So he could have more power if he was down with Satan. Now here's what he said on the, uh, election stream. I can't bring myself to feed on the public. If I did, I'd be 20 times more powerful. I mean, being a good guy, we're, we're changing the world and our contenders with the globalists, but I, I mean, if I didn't give a damn to screw it, everybody had played in all their BS, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:47 I'd be around the show. No doubt, around the show. But I don't do that. Okay. Um, so yeah, I mean, it's just sort of like a preoccupation that he has. You can see very clearly that the idea of like, I am good. I must be good because I'd be more successful if I was bad. Which suggests all of my success is because I am good. Right. As opposed to I have done bad things along the way, or even, exactly. All you have is in spite of you being good. Exactly. You are so good that you are still successful even though being evil would be more successful. Which is ironic considering that a multi-level marketing scheme is literally feeding on people. Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's a literal one-to-one thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or getting
Starting point is 00:42:42 people tricked on auto ship or something like that. All of, all of this shit or trying to convince people that they need your iodine in order to be healthy. Like just trying to convince people that they're somehow deficient because of what the quote globalists have done to them. That's feeding off them. Putting these ideas into their head in order for you to monetize their response to those ideas is the definition of feeding off people. That's all he does. That's just like earlier when he said he doesn't play games. He plays so many games. Yep. He's a gamesman. He's a parasite. Yes. He is a, he is a fucking parasite sucking the life out of, out of the rest of us. Or something to that. So, I mentioned that I wasn't able to find the, the full videos
Starting point is 00:43:27 of the, the display of cruelty that goes on at the end of the 2016 election stream, which I'm, I'm happy for. I'm glad that, you know, to not necessarily watch that all over again. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not in the mood. But I will say that there's a couple of very stark parallels that relate to that in terms of my, my firm conviction is that Alex Jones on election night made a, and all of his staff, everyone involved made, they went out of their way in order to victimize the people on the other side. The people who were crying showed videos of them, laughed at them, just made sport out of the idea of like, ha ha, look at these losers. Aren't we great? We're not them. They're losers. And in order to do that, they have to sort of
Starting point is 00:44:16 build up this idea that those, you know, I don't know, 20 year old, 22 year old girls, women who were crying were somehow oppressing them. But be that as it may, that, that was the demonstration on the election night. It was what the show was largely about outside of Alex getting a little bit weird and saying a bunch of stupid bullshit. The visual that remains as evidenced by the next day, Paul Joseph Watson putting out that compilation of people crying and him putting way sound effects under it. What they wanted to drive home is like, look at these, these stupid losers crying because we beat them. When the Kavanaugh stream happened, Alex was trying desperately to recreate that. So he kept going out to Millie Weaver on the street
Starting point is 00:45:02 trying to get video of her finding people crying and it was unsuccessful. So he kept trying to make it happen. The only way he was able to successfully get that feeling back at all was by having Darren McBreen come into the studio is one of his employees, video producer Darren McBreen. So the two of them could get super cruel about the idea that Kavanaugh going on to the Supreme Court was going to cause liberals to cry. Hey, I saw you're up here. I didn't know you're up here. What do you think of all this? Come here. I mean, sirs, I consider him pontificate all day, but are we not breaking these assholes will that wanted to break our will? All the shit they've done to us and finally we're winning. What's better than the confirmation is going to be the aftermath.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Just all the butt hurt and seeing the crying and the total liberal meltdown. I'm going to just bask in the liberal tears. So wouldn't you know that on the stream of the election night, uh, 2016, here's Darren McBreen. We get to see the triggering now. I mean, they're, they're going to have videos. I've already got, I just want to say this. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. I was going to move from New York to Ottawa or something, right? I like Baldwin to see you later. You take your two-minute acting up. So there's a young lady who is no longer with the company trying to get a word in edgewise while Joe Biggs, uh, Darren McBreen and David Knight make some, uh, some goofs because Alex had to take a break and so they went to that in the
Starting point is 00:46:38 stream. She was even trying to say something awful and they wouldn't let her speak. God. Yep. Hey, wonder where she is now. Yeah. Probably saying something awful to somebody else. Probably. Yeah. So interesting. Darren McBreen's coming in with the exact same energy on both of these streams. Wild. Almost like that's kind of what it's about. You know, if these guys were soldiers and they had that attitude, uh, they would commit war crimes. Oh, big time. That's the attitude of somebody who is a fucking war. What is the rapist? But what if they're soldiers in the information war? Would they commit war crimes in that space? Pretty much. Oh my God. I'm 100% sure they would as long as it triggers the libs. As long as we get to see them cry. Why do you want
Starting point is 00:47:25 that? Because it's funny. Because it's fucking funny. Is it? To them. It can't be. You can't feel like it's fun to watch another human being experience pain, right? I mean, that's, that's profoundly fucked up. It is. It is pretty fucked up, but it is what they're all about. Here, from election 2016, uh, stream, here's Joe Biggs. Let's look at the trending things on Twitter right now. United States of Anxiety. America is over party. Come on, really. America has now been vindicated. The American people have now been heard. We have taken over everything using social media. We have completely transformed the narrative. We were told for so many years, you know, that what to do, what to think. What, what were you told to think? What were you told to do? Respect
Starting point is 00:48:23 people? What were you told to do? What was the oppression? I can't, I can't do whatever I want anymore. But you took it back. I have to, I have to think about what somebody else thinks. And if I start doing that, then I have to wrestle with the fact that it's hard. I make other people feel bad. And if I make other people feel bad, doesn't that suggest that maybe I'm the one who's doing something wrong? No, I can't allow myself to think that for even a second. What they're doing is they're faking feeling bad in order to make me feel bad. They're victimizing me with their feelings. It's even worse. Soros is paying them to act like they feel bad. See, now that now I know who the real enemy is, it's definitely not that I'm a fucking, I don't, a monster, like a literal monster.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So Joe Biggs is mocking the idea that people are tweeting about anxiety, which I imagine, as we've discussed, ad nauseam. There's a lot of people who obviously felt like, uh-oh, on election night in terms of their safety, and their continued right to exist, ability to exist. All of their anxiety has been vindicated, or vindicated. Yep. Yeah. And so here is Joe Biggs being even worse. Judge is already calling it for Trump. And also, I just tweeted out pictures from inside Hillary Clinton's celebration area. And it's nothing but people filled with tears. As she literally hit the glass ceiling of the Javits Center, which is all the campaign workers crying, just so sad. It's called Shadenfreude. Is it? So that is a small version of what I've
Starting point is 00:50:05 been talking about. The actual thing that I remember is not just Joe Biggs, David Knight, and Darren McBreen sitting around laughing at pictures of these people crying. It went viral in the studio later. But that's exactly what was going on. You see that, and that's a dark picture. That's a dark picture of a news operation. He just said she was hitting the literal glass ceiling. He did say that. So that means that he knows that the glass ceiling does exist, and he enjoys and appreciates that it does. But I think he said of the Javits Center or something like that, whatever the building she was in it. So he was using it as sort of a nice turn of phrase to be a dick. But yeah, I mean, that's pretty awful. So later in the night, the part that I
Starting point is 00:50:58 can't find the video of, because Alex's YouTube channel is gone, they sit around and watch the footage of people at Hillary Raleigh's crying and make fun of it. A bunch of white dudes and whoever that lady is, and Leanne McAdoo sitting around. I wrongly have said that Jakari Jackson was there. He'd quit by this point. I'd forgotten that. I think it's all white people. I don't see a single non white face except I believe Dinesh D'Souza shows up. Of course. Why not? Why wouldn't he? So when it came time for the Kavanaugh stream, Alex, like I said, was going out to Millie Weaver trying to get her to have footage of people crying, trying to get protesters that they can do this exact same thing with. Talk about, ha ha, look at all you stupid triggered liberals. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But it didn't happen. There weren't people crying. There were people out chanting. There were people with their fists raised in the air and what have you. That's what Millie Weaver was capturing as video. And Alex wasn't getting what he wanted out of it during the Kavanaugh stream. So what he did is this. I want to see some of those videos. Can we pull up on YouTube reaction to Trump's inauguration or election night? You know, the trailer for Get Me Roger Stone is really good. It shows the leftist on election night. And there's another video we did called This Is Why The Left Hates Info Wars. And then we show them panicking. So because he couldn't get what he needed during the Kavanaugh stream that he was putting on, but that was the presentation he wanted,
Starting point is 00:52:32 he needed to harken back to the original night where he was super cruel in order to feel it again. So that's gross. I don't want to win, Dan. Winning is boring. I want to feel them crushed under my boot. I want to feel them. I want them to, it's almost like I want them to know what it is I'm about to do to them before I can do it. I want them to feel the pain of what's going to occur to them because that's the only way I can get off. It does seem that way. And also considering that Alex's stream during the Kavanaugh vote and afterwards, there's no content to it. There's not really any conversation about like what this means for the court or anything like that outside of like ha ha we won and Alex drawing a lighthouse on a piece of paper and trying to shoot his own camera with
Starting point is 00:53:27 the cork of a champagne bottle twice. That's about all that goes on except for him desperately trying to get this footage from Millie or wherever he can get it from. He tries to get it from let's go back to election night. Let's get that. And then later in the show, they do this. All right, we're gonna feed here. Yep. Final statement. Did you guys play my video? Oh yeah. All right, good, good, good. Yeah. We played your video and what they got roaring, roaring laughs out in the crowd. All right. Played again. Are we going to Jones? Are we going to Jones's video now? A prediction? A prediction? Are we, we do have a five minute video of protesters crying for Millie Weaver on on computer 12? Just just happened. They
Starting point is 00:54:12 shot it about five minutes ago. So let's go to that. Let's go to that. So they believe that they have a five minute video that Millie has shot of protesters crying, which they don't have. They end up playing a video where it's Millie Weaver wandering around a protest and just seeing a bunch of people locked arms, a bunch of people chanting, bunch of people with signs. No one's crying. No one is doing what they need them to do in order to exercise this cruel spirit that lives within them. So they don't, they don't really get what they want, but they pretend it's there anyway. Your defiance isn't making this fun for us. Stop it. Stop. There is, there is a little bit of that in there. Yeah. No, absolutely. There it's, it's, you can, you can see, and like Alex ends up ending
Starting point is 00:54:59 his stream, the Kavanaugh one, um, he gives a really long meandering toast about how this, this champagne is 1776. Then he goes off air, realizes that he didn't do a good enough job, and he needs to be a little angrier. So he does another toast and then slams down the glass of champagne on the table, breaking the glass and stares into the camera like a madman after he breaks the glass. So there is that feeling of he's not getting what he needs out of this and it's not good to him. So he has to keep going. So he does, he does like two hours in that Kavanaugh stream because he's not getting what he needs out of it, which is this visual that he got on election night of people crying, people victimized by his quote unquote success. That is what he
Starting point is 00:55:45 needs. He needs women's tears. He needs minorities feeling scared. Yeah. Or else what's the point of this operation anymore? Oh, now I'm going to have to hit a homeless person on my way home so I can get hard. Why are you making this suck? Bah. Yeah. And I mean, this calls back to what he was talking about earlier. In that clip from the 2016 election thing, where he's talking about the idea of white Christians, we got you out of slavery, we try to empower women and now you guys have turned on us. That is why he feels so desperate in order to get those tears. That's why he's so desperate to get that victimization from them, because he feels that they've wronged him by demanding to be treated like equals. He feels that they have wronged his whiteness and
Starting point is 00:56:36 his maleness by asking for equality. And that's really, really hard to look at. That's hard to deal with. Because, first of all, it's so, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. Not least of which it utterly defies his narrative of, look, white people raised you up. We brought you out of this whole thing. And I mean, sure, we in, I mean, yeah, sure, we enjoy making you feel miserable and crushing you under our boots. That's because we love raising you up so much. But you have to be raised up to exactly where I want you to be if you're anywhere in order for me to knock you the fuck down. Well, you won't get knocked down if you stay below my bat. It's that sort of thing. Yeah, I'm gonna be swinging. And if you get, you know, out of your station or whatever, you know, the terms that
Starting point is 00:57:28 would have been used before, I don't care to utter, but like, you know, it's that sort of thing. Stay in your place and you're not going to get hit. And then you won't have to cry and make me feel bad for hitting you. And frankly, it's your fault that you got hit. You should have known. You should have known. Look at me. I'm a crazy white man swinging a bat. You shouldn't have come anywhere near me. I mean, sure, I stole you from your country and sold you into slavery. But why did you, you were the ones, look, in a libertarian world, you were the ones who said hi. True. You should never have done that. And you live in a country where, you know, white people have always loved swinging bats. It's part of our cultural heritage. Yeah, come on. That's such a,
Starting point is 00:58:07 that's such a like, see, now you guys know what we would have done if you guys came to our country. We would have separated from you, you from your families. We're not getting sold into slavery. We learned from your mistakes in saying hi and offering us food. Look how dumb you are to be kind. So in this next clip, this one's from the 2016 election. We jump off the cruelty thing, although I think that that is probably the biggest piece of this. I really do. I think that what they tried to do is essentially, I don't, I don't know if it was 100% intentional on election night, that that was what they ended up doing. I think that was where their instincts took them and they loved it. I think that that cruelty display that they had of laughing at
Starting point is 00:58:51 people crying, because they feared for their safety. I think that that was sort of an improvisational move. And then because it was so good, and they made so much hay out of it, made so many quote, unquote viral pieces out of it, like Paul Watson's from the next day, they tried to do that again, in the Kavanaugh stream, that was the pageant that they tried to put on. That was the entire point of it. So I don't want to undersell that. That's the big piece. But Alex has a couple more really fucked up things that I don't work. I didn't remember from the 2016 stream that I think I might have might have buried away somewhere in my subconscious. But boy, I don't remember him saying shit like this. This one, this next one, listen to the language he uses here, listen to
Starting point is 00:59:37 these specific syntax, because if you follow pronoun reference, you're going to hear something supremely fucked up. The evil has been shown how they hate you, how they want to bankrupt you, how they think you're dumb, how they think you're scum. Here's the problem though, our forebears thought you were something. They set up a system where you could vote. And now in an abomination, you use that power to turn us into your slaves. Well, here's the news, jackass. We're not going to be Hillary slaves and the ruling classes slaves. And we're not going to be the slaves of you either. Those of you above, those of you below are all the same damn thing. You will go into where you're leaving, not us.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I understand you hate strength and muting because you're ugly. So our forebears gave you the right to vote. And now you're using that against us. I'll talk to you about votes for a second. I only want to hear three-fifths of what you have to say, dad. Originally only white males who own property were given the right to vote in this country. That constituted 6% of the population even having a hypothetical say in voting. It wasn't until 1856 that the last state did away with the whole owning property stipulation to allow people to vote. But even at that point, it was still just white male renters who were now allowed to have their voice heard at the ballot box a good 80 years after this country was founded.
Starting point is 01:01:08 In 1870, the 15th amendment was passed, which prevents states from making laws to prevent voting on the basis of, quote, race, color, or previous condition of servitude. Naturally, most southern states immediately put into place tons of restrictions meant to disenfranchise the new black voters. And thus, Jim Crow laws came into play. Fun fact, the Supreme Court pretty regularly upheld those disenfranchising laws. So really, even though there was a constitutional amendment saying otherwise in practice, still, it was mostly just white dudes who were able to freely vote. In 1887, Native Americans were granted citizenship and thus the ability to vote on the condition that they break their association with their tribes. They're like, oh, you can vote,
Starting point is 01:01:49 but you got to get out of that tribe. Yeah, you got to get rid of your entire heritage and sort of walk away from your past and everything that connects you to your ancestors, your lineage, all of that stuff, your culture, everything. Just get rid of it. You can vote. You can vote if you want to act white. Sure. Sure. So I would consider that not freely being able to vote. That's demanding a massive sacrifice of people for the privilege of voting. 37 years later, the US government would finally just say, all right, fine, you don't have to leave your tribe, you're cool. But it took them 37 more fucking years. Yeah. In 1920, the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote, but let's not pretend for a second they were given that right easily,
Starting point is 01:02:30 nor that the passage of this amendment meant all was well. For one, the same disenfranchising forces that were used against non-white men, particularly in the South, were now being applied to help diminish the voting power of non-white women. So that all was still in play. And though it was founded in 1790, residents of Washington DC weren't allowed to vote in general elections until 1965. And to this day, though they are US citizens, residents of Guam, the Virgin Islands, Northern Mariana Island in Puerto Rico can't vote in general elections, nor can people in American Samoa, though they're not citizens, they're American nationals. Oh, also fun little fact I found, ethnically Chinese US citizens in many states were denied the right to own property until
Starting point is 01:03:14 1965 as a lingering effect of the Chinese Exclusion Act. Can't imagine they were allowed to vote while they weren't allowed to own shit. I mean, hey, if you, if you want to own shit, you got to vote us out. Now, admittedly, that's abusing the power that we gave you to hurt us by you being able to participate in America or whatever it is, whatever it is you're talking about. So at what point is that your forebearer is giving you the right to vote? Because some of this stuff is shockingly current. You know, like, first of all, for those like US people, US citizens in like Puerto Rico, Guam, that's current. That's happening now. Yep. In Washington DC, it was 1965. That's not our forebears. That's the last generation. Nope. That's like Alex does 10 years before he was born.
Starting point is 01:04:02 1920 when the 19th Amendment passed. That's not your forebears. That's your grandpa. When he says your forebears, he's talking about the founding of this country. Yeah, he's talking about, he's shaming white people. No, listen to this again. No, listen to this again. No, the evil has been shown how they hate you, how they want to bankrupt you, how they think you're dumb, how they think you're scum. Here's the problem though, our forebears thought you were something. They set up a system where you can vote. And now in an abomination, you use that power to turn us into your slaves. Well, here's the news, Jackass. He's talking to white people who don't fall into his plan, don't fall into his program.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's not talking about people who got the right to vote later. I don't think anyway. So you're, you're saying right now that he is, he is not even pretending to use this as like a general, like our fair, our forebears gave all of you the right to vote. Instead, he is saying our fair, our forebears, why can't I say that right now? It's a, it's a mess of a word. It's a dumb word. Our ancestors gave you white men the right to vote. And some of you have used that to become traders. You race traders, you were given the right to vote. You weren't, you weren't a subject of the king anymore. And then you turned that and you used it to remove white people's hegemony. Bullshit. Well, that's one possibility. I think it's the most likely. Yeah. The other
Starting point is 01:05:40 possibility is he is talking about other groups that were, were, won the right to vote over the course of history, which is first of all, dumb to say that your forebears gave it to you and they fought for those rights and were beaten and killed in the process in order to get those rights. Right. I think he might literally think that everybody was allowed to vote. He might. He's that dumb. He does believe in lore. Yeah. Let's not forget how dumb he is. But if you go that angle, if you go that direction, then what are you saying is, so let's say you blacks and women, you were given the right to vote. And how dare you vote in ways that are in your best interests. Yeah. So even that doesn't make sense. Well, because even that is, is shockingly white supremacists.
Starting point is 01:06:25 But for white supremacists, it's a non zero sum game. Or I mean, it's a zero sum game. It's, if you, if you are, if you vote for what's in your best interests, then naturally that means that you're not voting for what's in my best interest. And if you're voting against my best interest, then you're abusing me with the right I gave you. You should be voting in my best interest as a, as a, an act of grace. You should be voting in my best interest in order to make sure that I continue giving you good things. Yeah. Yeah. It all, you know, like how a slave would do it. It all doesn't make sense. Like from a, like a logic, like a sensible standpoint, but it does make sense when you look at it through the
Starting point is 01:07:08 prism of white supremacists, a rambling bigot talking on air. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this, go to bed grandpa. This next clip is from the Kavanaugh stream. And it's one of the other things that Alex has to do throughout the entire 2016 election stream and the Kavanaugh stream. He has to present this idea that the left is out of control and they're rioting. This is a narrative that he needs to use for a very specific reason, which we'll see in the clip right after, but spice it to say he's making all of it up. Here we are just 25 minutes ago. They confirmed Kavanaugh and the left is just rioting and freaking out in DC. We have live feeds on info wars.com. This is just insane. This is total
Starting point is 01:07:56 insanity that we're witnessing. But you look at Trump's remarkable week. So the streams that he's playing from info wars.com and Millie and all of them out on the street don't show liberals rioting at all unless, no, unless people standing with signs and chanting is rioting to you. And if that's the case, then you want to take away people's right to demonstrate or to freely congregate or any of those things. If you do come out and say it, let's have that argument because you'll lose. I think I hope God, I hope. Yeah, but not in the supreme court. Alex and the people on the right are very desperately and have been for a long time trying to present the idea of all the liberal protesters and things like that are completely
Starting point is 01:08:34 out of control. We've seen it come to fruition recently at one of Trump's rallies. He was talking about how the left and Democrats have become ungovernable. It's the rule of the mob and all this. This is that language coming into its final form. Alex is the one Alex is one of the first people who was really going out there and pushing it real hard has been for a very long time. And the function of it is to now try to delegitimize an entire side of the debate and it's working. There is no other side. There's only good and evil debt. Sure. That's it. We're good. You're evil. Sure. What do you mean? There's another side. What? You think you have a good point? When? You're evil. It's evil. You can't possibly have a good point. Evil doesn't have
Starting point is 01:09:22 good points. Good only has good points. That's what's in the name. You have evil points. I mean, sure, they're right. But that's because being right is evil. That's that. Like that. Like that history you just read off. I don't want to hear that. That makes white people feel bad. That's evil. That is evil. That is an evil thing to say, Dan. Don't don't tell me what happened. Look, this is going to be a very dangerous thing and hopefully society is able to reel this in before it goes too far. They will not be able to. It's already way too far. But the idea that you have the president of the United States going to some weird, unnecessary cult of personality rally and delegitimizing an entire opposition party as being ungovernable, you have now entered into
Starting point is 01:10:09 like this is this is what history warns us about. This is this is that. Not if you don't know it. This is why this is why I'm mad at you for reading the history. Right. Yeah. Look, you're telling me that this has happened before and that when people do this bad things happen. That doesn't sound right. It would be much more pleasant to blissfully just have this creep up on you. But here are the signs in there. There are signposts along the way. And that's a big one in my history. All I'm saying is that, look, Hitler did give Jews the right to vote. Wait, no, he didn't. Did he? I'm not sure that. No, he did not. But in my history, he did. Oh, yeah, in your history. Yeah. See now, it's good history, not evil. Not evil history. So the reason
Starting point is 01:10:57 that this rhetoric is really important and the reason that Alex was able to spread it so far and wide within the rights, the right wing world. And I'm not saying he was the first or the only, but he was one of the very strong voices of it is that it leads somewhere. And in this clip, from how his head was feeling on the night of the 2016 election, we hear where that rhetoric is intended to go. And we'll go on stomping them forever. Because big jackass crews of wimps get together and they think they can piss on people. They take some nice man or woman who's just a hardworking good person. And they think we're wimps because we don't want to break their necks. And so they attack us and piss on us and do things until we finally stand up against them. And they,
Starting point is 01:11:46 they fight us. We decide to break their legs. But like the night in the Monty Python movie, who keeps saying I'm the night that goes neat. No, that's the black arms and legs off. They just continue coming on. And then you realize that you just can't give these people court. They won't be happy till you've metaphysically stopped their eye sockets in and bashed their brains out. So we understand you can't coexist with us because we're altruistic. We're strong. We don't want to hurt you. We want to build you. You want to hurt people like a little Tasmanian devil piranha. And so as quickly as we can, we're just going to stomp your head in and kick you in the ditch. And it's no hard feelings. But it has to be done. You can go around and fund radical
Starting point is 01:12:45 Muslims. You can fund abortions all day. You can, you can be a wimp and lie about what you really did. But we're going to man up to it. And in the final equation, you will belong to the Ash Heap of History. No one wants to be around you or with you. I take no pleasure in that. But you tried to better better men. You may have shot humanity in the chest. But to call it Willie Nelson. Or was it Merle Hagger? Or was it Johnny Cash? You'll never get the best of better men. So that's supremely ugly. Do you know what that reminds me the most of? In the Sandman comics, there is a, there's a huge storyline where this, this woman goes to a, accidentally goes to a convention for serial killers. And all these serial killers are living
Starting point is 01:13:53 under this delusion that they're, they're the hunters. They're making humanity stronger. They're the good guys. They're there for a reason. And at the end of it, Morpheus shows up and he gives the greatest curse in history, which is he just shows them, he just shows them who they really are. Like they see themselves as they really are. And every, like that is what Alex, like I'm waiting for Republicans to outlaw mirrors. Like that's what Alex is, that's what he's actually doing. Like all of the things that he just described that they are doing there, they, they want to kill you. They want to tear you down. They want to do all this stuff. You hate us because we're altruistic. Like all of this stuff is like, we can't coexist because we're altruistic. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Like that is, that is a complete, like if he, if he was forced by some Twilight Zone curse to see himself for who he really is, like that's, that's the only way to truly punish Alex. Yeah, if you had like a, like a on the road to like the Saul on the road moment, you know, like that's, that would be the only, that's the only fitting punishment. Exactly. Because what he's saying in there is all of this, like he keeps saying, oh, they pissed on us and they did this stuff. And the only examples that he can come up with are you fund radical Islam and you fund abortions. The abortions thing, I don't even give a shit about like that's, you know, Alex, I know, I know where you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. And then with the radical Islam,
Starting point is 01:15:25 I don't trust Alex to decide what is radical and what is not. He's afraid of every single Muslim that exists. So the idea that those are his two examples are like, Hey, you support Muslims and you support women's right to get healthcare. That's what pissing on you is. Yeah, that's what you can't coexist with. Yeah, that's what requires you to stomp someone's skull in. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. That to me is like, I don't even know how to put it into words, but it's one of the most pathetic, tragic things that's come out of his mouth. Because when he's not talking specifically, you have this idea of like, maybe he's talking about some actual wrong that's been done. Nope, when it's just Oh, people having rights bothers you. Yep. And, and that
Starting point is 01:16:18 rhetoric is so uncomfortable. Because I, I, I don't know how to deal with the truth of it, I suppose, because the truth of what he's saying is this, no matter how hard, no matter how hard we try and stomp on these people, whether we remove their arms and legs, they will keep coming. So the only way to stop them from coming is to kill them. And that's how we end up with that two billion dead. Right. Exactly. Now, his fantasy scenario. Now, the, the, the frustrating part of that is, how do you defeat Nazis? Like, what, what did we, what, what do you do? Like, how do we do that? Like, beyond a metaphorical mirror that shows them for who they really are? Like, how do we stop this? Because look, we had a good run.
Starting point is 01:17:15 There were, there were tons of liberal policies and they just fucking keep coming. I think in the aftermath of World War II, there was denazification efforts that happened that were pretty successful in the same way that after apartheid, there was a truth and reconciliation committees, those sorts of things. I don't know, you would need something fairly extreme in terms of levels of understanding and something that would be very uncomfortable for everyone to go through. But it probably would be the only way to do it without, without what, you know, is the scarier option, which is people actually hurting each other. Yeah. I mean, for all the, for all of the things that I say, like, when it, when it comes down to it, like the people who most embody the
Starting point is 01:18:04 things that I hate are my parents are my family, you know, like, I don't want, yeah, I don't want there to be a civil war because I'm not on their team. I'm, I'm, I'm out, you know, like that's gone. So, so how do we, how do we, because change in their mind sure didn't work or doesn't work or isn't working? No, there's no communication because again, we're, we're ungovernable. We're demons. We're evil for, for doing all of this stuff. We're slandering a good man, Dan. We're, we're tearing him down. It's a witch hunt. We're hunting witches. How can you trust people who hunt witches, Dan? How can you communicate? How can you talk to these people? That, and that's not us saying it to them. That's them saying it to us. So what do we fucking do? How do you talk to them?
Starting point is 01:18:59 I don't know. How do we do, how do we do this? I'm not certain that people who have their minds made up about stuff or are under the sway of very powerful propaganda would be able to get outside of it without some moment that really, whether it's what you're describing, some sort of metaphysical mirror where they're able to see the reality or some sort of world event that brings things into sharp focus and makes them realize, oh God, yeah, that's really what I was a part of. I thought it was something else because there's a very small fraction of the people who are on the right who actually support Nazi-ish mentality. Yeah. There is a larger portion that have fallen under the sway of the illusion of populism, the idea of what they're going along
Starting point is 01:19:49 with. And those people, I think there is something that would open their eyes. I don't know what it would be. Right? It's not, it's not, the New York Times put out a story where a two-year-old went in front of a judge. Right. And not just one story. No. It was a train of children going in front of a fucking judge, children under the age of six. Shouldn't that have been a flashpoint? Thank God, jurisprudence was saved by Kavanaugh getting on to the Supreme Court. Shouldn't, like, in my parents' situation, the only reason my family got out of the cult was because they killed a kid. Right. You know, like, that's the flashpoint that we're talking about. And you would think that a Nazi rally where a guy murders a woman, that would be a flashpoint. And it's not. Nope.
Starting point is 01:20:35 If the inertia of this movement continues along this line of cruelty, and it's only accelerating, it's only getting stronger, they're not losing people. You know, people aren't jumping ship aside from a couple of asshole columnists who can go fucking fuck themselves. Right. You know, like, the reaction that's going to break that inertia is only going to become stronger, or is only going to need to be stronger. And like, what's going to stop this is not going to be good for anybody. I mean, what's going to stop that? Well, obviously, the way that we're going, what's going to stop this is climate change. Radical displays of love and caring and empathy possibly could have a very strong effect. Maybe I'm idealistic. Sure. Yeah. No, I see what
Starting point is 01:21:32 you're saying. Maybe, maybe I'm idealistic. Maybe. I don't know. But I also think that, you know, if we look at the history of that being attempted, generally speaking, it's not so much the radical empathy and love. It's the people expressing radical empathy and love and then getting the shit kicked out of them. I mean, we're the Jesus. You know, we're talking about somebody is going to have to fucking take one in the chin for us. Like that kind of situation. Well, and it seems like a lot of people already are. Well, a lot of people on the right do imagine that the second coming is around the corner. Yeah. So maybe something like that will happen. Yeah. Yep. Some artificial version of the second coming could fix things.
Starting point is 01:22:14 They just need that they need to see who they really are. And I don't know what can shake it. Yeah. But I think that I think that one of the problems for us fixing everything is something that we've sort of touched on a little bit over the course of these shows that we do. And that is that the things that Alex Jones and people like him, especially people who are cruel propagandists, they seek to, whether it's intentional or not, is really fucking difficult to figure out. But I feel like it is. They seek to get rid of the avenues by which people can have that waking up experience. Yeah. In the same way that cults try and limit access to outside world information like the internet that could disprove them. Oh, absolutely. Don't go to the
Starting point is 01:23:03 Clinton News Network. Go to Fox News. One of the prime focuses of people who are trying to bring us into the negative place is to discredit the idea of any actual truth, anything in the media being accurate. No, you can only trust the people like me, Tucker Carlson and Ducey. The only people who are legit. And if you hear it from Trump, it's fucking true. Don't worry about it. Yep. Those sorts of things really serve to limit the ability of people to save themselves. And then it also hurts the ability of you to talk anybody out of it because you'll use primary sources or talk about, Hey, Chinese people couldn't own property until 1965 in a lot of states. Oh, Hey, states rights. Hey, you could bring those things up, but they don't, you know, it'd be
Starting point is 01:23:51 like, I don't trust that. I don't believe that. It's just, it's just belief. So I don't know. I don't know, man. All I'm going for is I want you and I to get big enough where we get invited onto one of those Fox News shows because here's my dream scenario. All right. I don't want to do it. You be Tucker Carlson and I'll be made. Do you like my bowtie, sir? I love your bowtie. Thank you. Do you have any questions for me? No. Okay. Just wanted to bring you here so I could insult your shitty beard. All I want to go on Fox News to do is just say, actually, Jordan, listen to some of your shows. I hear you're a soft yes on white genocide. Tucker. I am. And I just want to say this. You're a giant piece of shit. Thank you for
Starting point is 01:24:38 having me on. I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to get out of here. No, don't you want to have an argument? Nah, dude. You're a piece of shit. I'm out. Oh yeah. I just want that moment. I want one moment. The problem is I want to see Tucker Carlson cry is what I'm saying. He wouldn't. No, of course not. I don't want to see him cry. The problem is their shows are live. So never air. Oh, you'd have to have someone there with a video camera capturing. I need, I need a live show. Yeah. Yeah. You need to find Fox and friends. Fox and friends is live, right? Yeah, but they have a delay. I'm sure those sort of, well, then I'd have to really stretch it out. Right. Right. You have to be what's the, what's the five second? Is it a five second delay? Depends.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Station by station. I imagine a TV one would have like maybe a minute. Oh, I can, I can roll for a minute. I can roll for a minute, Dan. Well, maybe you'll be able to overcome their delay and get your message. Go fuck yourself. They're holding on to me trying to rip me out of there. I'm just going to keep going. I have to say, I don't think that would be the flashpoint that saves the world. No, but it would be a great one for me. It's probably delusional of us to actually think that there is some sort of flashpoint possible, but it's something that you think about because, you know, that would be the real world version of the metaphorical mirror. Some sort of world crisis event or something like that that would shock people into realizing,
Starting point is 01:25:51 oh, what have we become? Well, you would think again, that the climate change deniers would see all of the hurricanes. We're getting hit with another hurricane right now. The, the, the, so many shit like climate change. They even said we've got 12 years left. They sound more like me. Those alarmists have always been saying scientists are finally skipping the like, we got to solve this by 2100. Otherwise people, and they're on my side where they're like, we're fucked. Right. But they just want to try and get carbon taxes going. So George Soros can make more money. Why don't you understand that? But that's when that's the mirror, isn't it? Whatever it finally comes home and, and like fucking swaths of the coastline are just gone.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I think that so much of that can be like, I think that even though it's actually Soros's weather weapons, that's what's going to do it. See, that will be the new argument. There we go. There's always something. There's always something. I fucking know. Anyway, Jordan, I don't know if I achieved exactly what I hope to achieve with this episode, but I, I noticed those stark parallels between the Kavanaugh stream and the election stream. And I felt they were worth pointing out. I don't know. The audience can decide whether it's worthwhile or not. But I knew that there was, there was that cruelty in the Kavanaugh stream that I really felt it was important for us to discuss, even if we didn't go over the entire stream. Trust us,
Starting point is 01:27:16 there wasn't all that much outside of the cruelty that was worthwhile. Right. Alex just rambles about a drawing of a lighthouse that he made for about five minutes. That's kind of fun. But the thing that I do, the parallel that you have made, and I think you've nailed it, the one thing about it though, is strangely hopeful. What the parallel that you have made on election night, we are all crying. We are all watching the doom of America. And on Kavanaugh's inauguration, on Kavanaugh's confirmation, there was no crying. There was none of that. Everyone was ready. Everyone was raising their fist up. Everybody was saying, not this time, we're not crying. This isn't a mournful situation. This is a fight. That's hopeful. The would-be victims of
Starting point is 01:28:08 Alex's propaganda pageant that he wanted to put on weren't playing the same game. They had evolved to the point now where people had organized and were getting more active, whereas the glimpse of Alex as a propaganda outlet had not evolved. He was trying to do the exact same thing. So yes, I think that is slightly optimistic. We just got to get the Democratic National Committee to figure that shit out now. Even now, people are like, I don't know if we should run Warren. She's too angry. She's too shrill for the Democratic voters. Good work, dudes. Yeah. And all this is to say that times are ugly ahead. And let's hope, I don't know, I have nothing to say. Hey, man, let's do Clinton in 2020. Let's do Bill this time. Let's throw
Starting point is 01:28:57 another Clinton in there. Sure. Who gives a shit? Triangulation, Dan. That's how we win. Centrism. That's probably going to be the mirror that wakes everyone up. I don't know, Jordan. I have nothing really to sum up other than to say, I mean, everybody knows where we stand on things and the world can go fuck itself. Yep. We have a website, knowledgefight.com. Indeed, we do, Dan. Where else could you find us? Twitter. We're at knowledge underscore fight. Could you find us in another place? Yes, Facebook. What about another social media, like a smaller social media group on Facebook? I'll go home and tell your mother you're going. All right. All right. What if you went to iTunes and you saw our show and you subscribed to it and you liked it? Sure.
Starting point is 01:29:38 What if you left a review? That'd be nice. That would be great. Any of those things would be great things to do. Now on Kavanaugh's day, on Kavanaugh day and on election day 2016, we saw Alex being very similar. And there's one thing that's also similar between those two days, and that is he is aware that he probably killed a dude. Andy and Chance will share on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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