Knowledge Fight - #221: October 24, 2018

Episode Date: October 26, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan follow up on the last episode and discuss how Alex Jones' narrative about all of his enemies receiving bombs has evolved, and not in a positive way. It's now a false flag the Democrats are doing to themselves, so the gents discuss how dangerous an idea this is, and how troubling it is that so much of the right wing media is on board with him about it.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed. We are Dan. Yeah, Jordan What the fuck is going on? I can't answer that question for you I just want to know what the fuck is going on bad interview question I just want to know what the fuck is going on. I don't know man. I'll say that I don't feel great about our last episode But it's not our fault. I

Don't feel good about it because we were operating under the context because when we recorded it that the guy who left a bomb in Soros's mailbox was a isolated incident. Yeah, that would have been fun I kind of was operating under that assumption certainly because why would you assume something other than the facts that are in front of you? And so when I posted that episode I was up until about 1 30 or so on Tuesday night Putting the episode up went to bed woke up in the morning Boot up the old computer. See how the world is doing That's the first headline I saw watch out. There's a bomb next to you right now It's crazy because like I as I talked about on the Tuesday episode like on Monday night

I had trouble sleeping barely slept. I'm like, ah, finally. I'll get some sleep in I sleep I wake up more bombs. I'm like never sleeping again It's actually your fault every time we've gone to sleep in the past three days, Dan Yeah, every time we have gone to sleep We have woken up to finding out another bomb has been sent somewhere. I refuse to make that connection But yeah, so there are far wilder accusations being thrown around then the very act of sleep is causing bombings It's one of those weird things about covering Alex Jones in the present because he's so Full of shit and the world is so crazy right now

Our episodes of the present are almost instantly dated. I know they're almost instantly not inaccurate But don't have the full picture just by virtue of how everything changes on a dime on an instant So we I don't you know, I stand by the things I said I still believe the stuff I said but also now add in all these other people who have received bombs as opposed to source And I mean you look at the list of the people it's still all people that Alex Jones screams about all the time Come on I don't think that it's unique that these are all people that Alex yells about because the right-wing world has become so Alex Jones-ified yeah, so

Jones-ified that I'm just gonna let that sit. I was intentionally did that while you were taking a sip It's become so much that that all the people are attacking all of these people So it almost becomes such a blur as to like what could motivate this to the point We're honestly if the only way I would be convinced that this is Alex Jones Motivated not Trump Tucker Carlson all that just the whole world of the right motivated is if Brian Stelter got one Because that is Alex is probably the only person who screams about Brian Stelter all the time really mad at Brian So yeah, you need some sort of control group situation my new theory. Mm-hmm

Scorsese oh see why else would De Niro get a Bomb along with everybody else I'll tell you why this whole thing is just to mask that Scorsese is pissed off that De Niro spent those 20 years in the wilderness Sure, and fucking meet the clumps movies or whatever it is. He did meet the fuckers. Yeah, exactly look who's fucking now Look who is fucking now De Niro yeah, yeah suck it De Niro. Yeah, but also someone I don't want to say suck it too Is our new donors amazing? Thank you very thrilled to have a couple of new people sign it up with the team We appreciate it also very much first of all like to say hey Jeff. Thank you so much for becoming a policy wonk

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That is driving me crazy, but for now Jordan. I said at the top of the show That we didn't have all the information at our disposal when we did our last episode on Wednesday And unfortunately, I thought well the only responsible thing to do is now that there's more of the story available As much as it sucks to talk about a present-day episode I feel like it's our responsibility to jump in and do another present-day episode To go over what Alex Jones is talking about now. Oh, no, so I tuned in and this is going to be the October 24th episode So from Wednesday in this first clip. We're gonna be listening to here Alex is talking to Owen shroyer about the situation

That is unfolded all around us. Oh, no. Yes, they did do a sweep of other houses Stay there. Let's come back and talk about this live exclusive coverage from the site of what's probably commie bombings Oh, you know, oh nice that we got out the gate hard. Nice. We've got Owen shroyer on the scene. Oh shit I fucked up my clips. I actually that was from March 12th of this year during the Austin. Oh That was those were commie bombings. Oh, I'm sorry. I think everything I totally mixed up with all my clips I thought that was one of the present-day ones. No, I got it. Okay. I'm sorry. All right Here we go. This is actually the first clip that we're gonna listen to here from October 24th, 2018 Here we go

And since the globalists are getting ready to carry out. Okay, C2. There's no doubt about it They're playing the exact same propaganda that led up to what they did. It's not just Alex Jones noticing this today It is People in Congress. It's Rush Limbaugh. It's Michael Savage It's countless other bloggers and talk show hosts and that's the good news The feds did this in 93. They cooked the bomb train the driver I'm sorry. I fucked up again. Oh, no, that was from April 20th, 2010. I'm sorry. I completely fucked up again All right now that's two in a row and I'm I you know what that could be a coincidence

I need three to form a pattern and then I will know whether or not this is going in any direction Honestly, it was my intention to just do that the entire episode Like that would be a way that we could escape actually talking about the present, but unfortunately My archives of clips are much more difficult to go through than I would like to Like to think so those are just the two that I pulled there to demonstrate like alright whenever he talks about bombings It kind of goes the same way. It's always false flag stuff. I don't know if I can trust you would you say that now? So here's the first clip from today. I don't know if I can trust you. This is from October 24th 2018 and it's a little bit of a pre-taped thing that he did with Roger Stone and

You'll see you'll see this sort of vibe. He's putting out here So I'm sure now that this is one of their big October surprises in the next month or two to stage something or provocateur Something and blame it on me and Roger Stone concurs. We do not want any violence. We decry it. We stand against it We're winning politically. It's the left calling for violence of shootings police and beating up Rand Paul everything else But the fact that they're saying I'm calling for this when I ever said it is chillings This is an emergency alert to get out ahead of this Roger Let's be as clear as we possibly can Alex Jones and if the wars do not advocate violence Against the media or anyone else if there is an attack on any media outlet or any

Reporter it is not countenance by us does not advocate it, but it has to not done by us It is a false flag with the goal of blaming Alex Jones How do we get out ahead of this stuff because this is pure scripting what you're about to literally invade a country We just did I think we just we just did we ate mission accomplice raise that banner up We did it because you you can hear nothing to worry about you can hear in Roger Stone that he's like a little bit more He's using legal language. Yeah, he's like we didn't countenance. Yeah Yeah, I think that might be because he's getting he's getting a lot of Mueller heat It might be a little bit of the mind of legal actions

Any resemblance to characters living or dead who have previously called for violence towards the media the specific people who were Bombed right they do not Represent Alex Jones or Roger Stone despite the fact that on countless Numbers of times they have called for direct violence towards these people Well, I mean dot dot dot politically Alex doesn't want violence at all and he never has that's always been his position That he is just a peaceful man. So let's go back to January 5th 2018 disingenuous fake false broke back

twisted a defiler a betrayer a backstabber a devil You will pay. Yeah, you think I don't see your face come You don't think I don't see you stelta. I see you. You understand me I know what you think of me and my family. I see you right back. You understand that you understand that stelta Stelter

You will fall So, I mean that's a little bit advocating of violence No, no, it's just claiming that he is a demon and that means that you as a moral person have No choice, but to uh end the demon. That's not violent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no It's like in the exorcist where the exorcist saw The demon was like All right, we need to negotiate calmly and peacefully with you all as you do with demons Yeah, of course. So that's why I mean that's a little that's a little vague and stuff like that

But I mean here's a clip from march 20th of this year And that somehow it's bad if he controls the executive in cleans house talk about drop anything He's in dereliction of duty letting this Clinton cabal run while the justice department. He needs to move on their ass and I mean Like they're calling for extra judicial. That's illegal once they call The president can do that with covert action. That's the best thing for the country So the president should take covert action against his supposed enemies just because I believe that they're saying they're gonna do that to him It's extra judicial, which is illegal. He should wait until it's legal for him to kill these people. Come on, Dan Right fair enough, but you get what I'm saying. It's like there's this there's a nonsensical aspect to alex's like I love I

I don't love I never never I am I'm totally against violence and you can never Say that I have ever encouraged anything of the sort Hey, Dan anybody who says that I encourage violence. I encourage you to fill your hand And we'll solve this. I'll beat your ass So that pre-clap uh pre-taped clip uh with roger stone is very clearly uh preemptive Damage control because I think that they probably got the sense of like, uh, oh We better put out a video that we can play in court where we literally say if somebody does something It is not something we encourage

Yeah, they should really have opened every show with that video since oh, yeah, 1999. Yeah, probably Yeah, so the other thing too that's really fun here is that uh in that clip that the alex plays right before his show There's a little bit that he forgot to cut out of it All right folks, we're gonna be covering all of this people worse than you guys in america right now Uh, no you you know, I think cnn and the Newark council brought it back more Yeah, but that's all they want. He don't want a response classical fascist fake leftist coward keep moving You notice that these cowards all they can do is misrepresent and then they didn't want the answer He wanted to get a little token for his friends and his miserable eyes and then and then lie about us

That's what they do. Why did you keep that in? Why didn't he cut that out? So guy just goes over and tells him that he sucks and he's like, yeah, you know Who I think sucks cnn 15 years ago. I prefer roger stone's response which was chicken shit was no his first response He's moving are there are there any two people worse than you right now and roger's first response is yeah, you I think that was I thought that was alex. No, that was roger. I like to keep moving and that was like first off I'm only one guy, right? So You gotta you gotta come up with more than two. Yeah, you gotta work a little harder. Yeah, we come back you chicken shit right i'm i'm just

What how would you how would you literally and then? Oh, is there anybody worse than you the very people who got bomb sent to them? You you reinstigated the very violence that you tried to decry a moment before You bet and that is not going to not be a theme on this show. Oh god. So here's where alex gets to talking about stuff Actually in studio not in this pre-tape thing Ladies and gentlemen, we are live broadcasting worldwide with only 13 days out to the 2018 historic elections bombs sent to clinton obama CNN evacuated george soros and more

Right on time so they can play the victim We saw the pr rollout that i was saying use battle rifles and bombs and things on the media None of it was true. Why would they push that because they were preparing The ground ladies and gentlemen And they've got their giant migrant caravans now over 50 000 people being shipped in on un and us funded vehicles From usaid Nice pivot and it's in mainstream news what i told you last week that george soros doesn't pay for it The us taxpayer through the un pays for it. Uh-huh is that what foundations run the operations

Yeah, mainstream news. Yeah, that's all coming up and they're being trucked up Just like we predicted to slam into the border two days before the election They'll be more than 200 000 people when they hit that escalated really quick. Yeah, did he say more than 20,000 and then he went with 200,000. I'm saying it's at 50 000 now. Oh, isn't it closer to seven? The report that I was reading the other day was around there yet. I think I mean is I've made this point many times alex isn't good with numbers No, everything is an exaggeration. Everything is more severe than it needs to be a lot of that is really boring that clip is Yeah, but it's exactly what I expected to find on tuesday's show

And it's interesting to me that it takes him until wednesday to come out with this narrative because it's the obvious narrative It's exactly what yeah, it's the fox news narrative. It's his knee-jerk reaction That's what you should have done on tuesday. This story was already rolling on tuesday. Oh, yeah And if he had come on his show on tuesday and been like, oh someone sent a bomb to soros It's a false flag. I bet you next they're gonna say that it was clinton clinton's gonna get a bomb too Then the next day he'd be like, I said this yesterday. I knew yeah, you get even more day out of it But instead he's lame. Yeah, I don't know what it is like I know that on our last episode I said that there's no universe

I believe exists that alex didn't know about soros getting a bomb Did he maybe not know I wonder if maybe maybe he didn't know I think it might be possible What? Well, I mean, why how is that possible? Why would he do this show on wednesday instead of tuesday? I don't know. It makes no sense. It doesn't make any sense No, unless all of his shows are heavily scripted. They do dress rehearsals It couldn't like break the script If that's the case, then I understand why it's like that that show is scheduled for wednesday

We have tuesday script memorized. He's more professional than uh, jimmy foulin then we did. He doesn't break. We did all the blocking You're doing tuesday's show tuesday. No matter what I don't care about breaking news hit your lines. Yeah, absolutely. It's possible Um, so in this next clip he uh talks more about why it's a false flag Ladies and gentlemen, we are live broadcasting worldwide. I am your host alex jones And we're 13 days out from the mid-term elections and all hell is breaking loose Obviously coming up. I'm gonna wait To the second hour, but we've got it all ready and prepared for you Dozens and dozens of clips and i'm gonna show you the news articles for yourself here in a moment

We're in the last few months. You know, see it for yourself You have advocated violence exactly and precisely How they are preparing the public for the idea that trump and the conservative pro america media aren't just nazis They are but that they are terrorist Who are going to attack the media and attack universities and attack the democratic party Jerry's out on that one to say that our political actions are illegitimate and that we are going to cause all of this violence

So we need to be shut down I wouldn't say the last one is true This is a situation where like you just get into this stupid game that he plays that there's really no way out of without just saying like I'm out. Yeah, I reject this because What he's describing is the media covering trump's rhetoric Alex's rhetoric in such a way that they're saying. Hey, you know in history a lot of times when people acted this way And demonized a certain population that population ended up getting Attacked. Yeah, they ended up getting killed or beaten up or marginalized even further than they already were as we have seen them do

Whether it be a minority group or in this case journalists You know in countries that have slipped away from democratic principles Largely the first step down that road is demonizing the the media You saw it with Hugo Chavez. You've seen it throughout eastern europe in tons of countries The idea of a free press is one of the most dangerous things to autocrats So like when you have that the media covers it in such a way that says hey everyone be careful about this This is really not good. Um, and they're saying we're all terrorists. Exactly great, dude All right fucking fine the stimulus

There's literally no difference between the reality of the media warning about something and alex saying Oh, they're trying to demonize us the the middle like what makes What makes both sides do what they do is the same It's just that one side's reaction is super defensive and full of shit And there's really nothing you can do about that. No, there's nothing you could do about it because me saying this alex is be like Oh, you're a fool. Yeah, something like that. You can't see through you get read between the lines Here's the most obvious reason that these guys know their rhetoric is violent and is Causing violence. They are defending this. Yep before we know anything about who sent the bombs

You texted me that and I thought that was like such a good distillation of this like all you need to know Yeah, they know they're at fault. They they didn't even wait for five seconds And they they might not be at fault for this one. Right. That's the thing. They might be fine They don't it all part is like it's a minuscule chance, but this might be a false flag And they're not even giving it a chance. I think the odds I agree minuscule, but I would even Shrink it from there. Yeah microscopic But the but the very like the nature of whoever is doing this is certainly not determined at this point No, like we don't know anything. No, absolutely. It's so like what no right-wing media outlet is at all saying like

Let none of them are even saying let's hold on and find out who's done this before we preemptively defend our own Terrorism. Yeah, they're say they're admitting by defending it before we know anything that they know they are causing violence Yeah, yeah, and that it like on our last episode I said that alex is responsible for this in a spiritual sense Right, and I still do believe that no matter who the person is no matter what they are Right, I still I still think that alex has helped us get to the point in society in terms of the rhetoric That's acceptable that sort of thing that that that we can now be where we are But that is not to say that like I didn't I don't think it would be appropriate for us to be like this Was a right-wing guy for sure. No, we can we can have like

Hmm looks like it. Yeah, but for us to report that or to advocate for that would be stupid absolutely and The fact that the entire right-wing media sphere all the people even people who were like Formerly had the pretense of like I'm not alex jones. Yeah people like rush limbaugh's people like uh, yeah Blue Dobbs false flag false flag. Everybody is saying false flag One person is even entertaining them None of them have even come out and been like it could just be alone crazy sure None of them have even given any other

Possibility and I think you're I think you're totally right that that does indicate A sense of awareness that they must have that's like we got to get in front of this thing Yeah, because otherwise when the truth comes out, we're fucked. Yeah, and that's a strategy that I think a lot of these people have learned from Propagandists like alex jones. Yeah, so That's not good. Now in his next clip alex has been he's made his thesis clear that the the bombings Or the the attempted bombings of all of these democrats robert deniro Debbie waserman schultz. Yep, uh, you know, it's just it's it's ballooned From where it was eric holder a lot of a lot of people getting bombs

Yeah, and and he's he's said that it's it's fake and it is clearly them doing it to themselves because they need sympathy in the The midterms. Yeah, and he's going to be blamed for and demonized. That's his sort of baseline narrative and he'll develop it a little bit more later But in order to make his point, he needs to link it to another bomb attempted bombing of of recent day And this is this isn't good. This is a bad connection He's not going to do the boston one. Obviously the big story at info wars dot com and news wars dot com

is that A pipe bomb got mailed yesterday a very small little pipe bomb Just a little pipe bomb to one of his palatial mansions in new york and they could barely even destroy half of it Then another similar pipe bomb reportedly got mailed to cnn One to obama and one of course to the clinton's Of all there in new york Not all remember if you go back About a month ago a gentleman was busted in new york cooking up a he he's put guilty a 200 pound bomb

In his basement to bomb the republicans to cancel the election He was going to detonate it inside the washington monument mall on the morning of election day To try to cancel the election because the republicans are going to try to steal the election or cancel it Now that doesn't make sense. He's a crazy leftist. He's pled guilty. So that's really bad And here's why alex is juxtaposing the stories of all of his enemies receiving mail bombs with a story about this guy out of new york Who had worked on a building a 200 pound bomb to blow up the national mall on election day He's doing this and claiming that the man was a deranged leftist because doesn't know anything

But this false narrative serves his purposes to present the idea that the soros clinton obama bombs are false flags by the left The problem is that paul rosenfeld the man who built that bomb was not a leftist Nor is it any mystery as to what his intentions were in planning to blow up dc He wasn't he wasn't angry at the republicans as alex is reporting At least he was no more angry with them than he was at all government from the fbi press release In august and september 2018 rosenfeld sent letters and text messages to an individual in pennsylvania These letters and text messages stated that rosenfeld planned to build an explosive device and detonated on november 6th 2018 in the national mall in washington dc

Rosenfeld's stated reason for these acts was to draw attention to his political belief in Sortition a political theory that advocates for the random selection of government officials. All right. All right Um, um now we're getting closer to me. You're not interested. I'm getting there. He's not like It's crazy to build a bomb to do this But I read some of his like his writing and it's it doesn't come off as crazy as a lot of the manifestos You end up reading really. I'm very glad that they caught him. How good was he with the bomb? I have no idea I don't I don't know too much about that. It seems like it'd be hard to build a home brood 200 pound bomb That's big. That's big. It's hard to build a loaded in a van and you're already texting people your plans

That's not how you loan bombs. It's hard to bake. Why am I giving advice? It's hard to bake like a 200 pound cake let alone a bomb, you know, it's uh Stuff But I mean the cake if I mean obviously you don't want the cake to to kind of sink in the middle No, no, no, so that's that's far more dangerous. There's a lot of difficulties. Yeah Yeah, yeah, then the the parts of a bomb So rosenfeld wasn't a leftist though He did think the country was going in the wrong direction

The thing is he felt like that for a long time before trump came on the scene He'd written blog posts years ago called things like the extinction of politics And others insisting sortition was the only way to go He opposed the democratic process as a whole and voting Which is why he chose election day for his planned suicide. He was going to kill himself with the bomb Yeah, how are you going to what is he got a timer? No, he just got hit that thing with a hammer. Yeah He wrote quote the logical end of majority rule is monarchy the constant political maneuvering of individuals and factions must inevitably trend towards a winner Takes all conclusion even today despite all our democratic pretensions in the u.s

One might easily imagine a scenario in which president jeb bush following an act of nuclear terrorism suspends the electoral process Under the pretext that terrorists have infiltrated the democratic party A perpetual dynasty of bush leaders would be a plausible outcome Most people imagine that democracy and monarchy are different animals, but they are actually cousins He wrote that before it appeared that trump was going to be the next president He wrote that before jeb asked people to clap and got cucked out of the election I'm sorry. Did you mean jeb? Yes, okay, but the thing is that sounds exactly like what alex was saying about jeb bush in the 2016 election

Yeah, pretty much but with slightly better grammar and more developed ideas. Yeah Also, sortition is a philosophy that is not largely associated with the left. They're far more I don't think it's associated with many people other than well, you know who it is sort of associated with the famous socialists No, the anarcho capitalists who are generally now like They like to hang out with libertarians. Yeah, classical liberals So, I mean like I'm not saying that sortition is the The like sole possession of the right or anything like that But it does have a heavy overlap with people who are anarcho capitalists who aren't left who are not

Liberals and when your philosophy involves the like erosion intentional erosion or getting rid of the democratic process You're on a whole different spectrum. Yeah, there's really no left or right on that one Right, right that there's there isn't even really a vend diagram that includes like what if the short story the lottery But instead of getting killed they become leader. All right So alex trying to say that this guy was mad at republicans And that's why he was going to blow up the national mall is foolish and stupid He doesn't know anything about the story

But he needs it in order to connect to this other story Of course to try and reinforce the idea that all of these bombs are clearly Some sort of a democratic false flag and it super doesn't matter if it's true or not But I that's one of the things that I don't even matter if it's a real story He's not going to talk about it again. That's what he does. He talks about it like three times on this episode That's that's one of the things I care about like if he if he was if he wants to present the idea that all All these are false flags shouldn't

Bring up a story to reinforce that belief that he doesn't know anything about and doesn't actually prove his point at all I want him to do better is what I'm saying. Yeah, and this is just super disappointing. It's it's always It's always a tell What bombings are false flags and what bombings are not false flags. I think we'll get into that a little bit A little bit later. It just seems like statistically Your right wing bombers can't all be false flags Don't tell alex that they like I mean He would start yelling even if there were a ton of left-wing bombers that were false flags

By the right, I still be like, yeah, some of them had to be like for real left-wing bombers Sure, can't all be false flags. I promise you we'll get into bombing statistics here in a little bit Okay, all right, but before we do alex has to take umbrage with the media Oh, somebody should bomb him for painting him in an unfair light. Oh Let's go back now to just a few Weeks ago and a few months ago. Here's two weeks ago Brett Kavanaugh and the information terrorist trying to reshape america first person they attack is you're truly saying i am a terrorist

That's wired magazine in a huge 30 page article of pure bull So I found that article What alex seems to now want to point out is that the headline is actually brett kavanaugh and the information Terrorists plural It's about people like jack posobic mike cernovich and all those assholes who are weaponizing information, especially uh in the brett kavanaugh confirmation process I was going to say that's a weird article for wired to write if it doesn't have anything to do with uh technology at all Well, here's a thing from the article quote information terrorism is not a term

I apply lightly But if you accept the core definition of terrorism as quote the unlawful use of violence and intimidation Especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims Then there are a few few terms more apt to describe what this group has unleashed against their fellow americans alex has brass balls complaining about wired calling him an information terrorist when his website is called info wars Oh So Information wars hold on so what what are we just going to use the definitions of all words to determine what they mean now dan?

He plays dirty in the information war Ergo, he's an information terrorist. Oh, do you mean because in the information war? He intentionally stokes fear in order to get a political result. Oh, yeah some sort of terrorist What what else is a terrorist now? So stupid. Are you sure so stupid? They don't call him a terrorist. They discuss this idea of uh information terrorism It's an interesting concept, but I don't I don't I don't know I don't know how helpful it is because in that even in that uh that part of the article Terrorism is defined as the unlawful use of violence

And if you are using that as your definition of terrorism, it's not illegal most of the things alex is doing, you know So it would need to he's only a sometimes information terrorist Sure sure sure, but a lot of the stuff that he's doing that's particularly distasteful often doesn't fall under illegal Uh things, but that's maybe that's a minor squabble, but that's the only thing That's the only leg alex would have to stand on if he wanted to argue why this article is unfair Because the rest of it's totally fair And also it is nowhere near 30 pages. I was about to say there's no way that a wired article is 30 pages long alex probably no chance alex probably just scrolled down like four times. He's like, oh man

A million pages he gets to the picture of himself. He's like, oh, it's getting good scrolls down a little more Uh, okay. No more pictures of me carol quickly. Keep writing shut up. Yeah, but Here's a question um So now all of the right wing media is united in calling this a false flag Maybe not all but all the essentially mostly. Yeah. Yeah. Um, if we apply this to I don't know A while back

This would be very similar to all of the right wing media saying las vegas was a false flag Exactly sandy hook was a false flag exactly the heather hayers death and charlotte spell is a false flag So all of these things I ask you this question. That's where we're going Is it legally actionable? I mean if it's if it's if legally you can say we're gonna sue alex jones for calling sandy hook a false flag Right, and it turns out that this is not a false flag I think that the only people who would have uh, like uh, standing to sue him are the people who receive the bombs And I think that they have better things to do

I really don't if it means they can take down the right wing media But now that now that the target is not alex jones the target is Fox news Yeah, but I also think that you'd have to you'd have to realize like how big of a court case that would be That would be the next 10 years of your life probably What else is obama doing? I don't think he wants that money. I don't think he wants that to be his legacy You know what what the guy who took down the worst propaganda outlet in the american history now? We see it that way, but you know how ugly it would get you know how ugly it would get so ugly lots of people would die

One of them barack obama I think I think a lot of them know that um It would be it would be such an uphill battle You'd also be end up having to it would end up redefining so many things about uh, about like no downside Except for if you are one of those people like I wouldn't want to do it. Mm-hmm because I'm broke But sure other reasons probably I think it would be a real headache. It would be a bummer Yeah, it would be a bummer. So um, it's next clip alex just reinforces his idea that this is a big old false flag Now it's not rocket science

That when they start saying jones wants violence against the clintons you do and jones wants violence against soros And he's gonna get sure he said saying he was a nazi collaborator. Yep. He said that on 60 minutes He didn't and mpr Yes, you did me didn't say that clearly they're saying trump's gonna cause violence on the media when they're the ones calling for violence against him 100 to 1 I know you are but what am I calls for violence and carries out violence versus the right I know you are but what am I? So I know you are but what am I he's saying there that the left carries out violence against uh, Folks a hundred to one hundred to one and and so I looked into this a little bit

And I'm gonna read you this here quote an analysis of the global terrorism database by researchers at the university of mariland published In 2017 shows a sharp increase in the share of attacks by right-wing extremists from six percent in the 2000s to 35 percent in 2010s Hard to imagine what's caused that wait Thirty five percent it went that high up. Yep of all domestic terrorist acts are done by right-wing extremists It's probably the left and our language probably our rhetoric. It's our rhetoric. Also. By the way, what about the left wing? What do they find in that study? Yeah about that. Let's let's get the numbers. I'm assuming that it has to be 3500 percent quote

Meanwhile the share of attacks by left-wing terrorists and environmental extremists dropped from 64 percent in the 2000s to 12 percent in the 2010s and a lot of that is because of Like the 64 percent in the 2000s is a lot of eco terrorism. Yeah, and uh animal rights activism So there those were the 2016 that study was in 2016 and so they wanted to look into it a little bit further So with a quote an analysis by courts of the same global terrorism database confirmed that the trend persisted in 2017 where most attacks in the u.s. Were committed by right-wing extremists out of 65 incidents that year 37 were tied to racist anti-muslim homophobic anti-semitic fascist anti-government or xenophobic motivations in that same set of data

11 were left-leaning actors from 2017 of the 65 11 were left-leaning actors And a closer review of the data shows that six of these left-leaning terror attacks were done by animal liberation groups So that leaves five and then there you know, there's also an environmental one here and there It's almost nothing right by left-wing groups and that That is a very narrow picture of the courts as opposed to the rampant increase of just Spray in the swastika on a synagogue stuff like that You know like that kind of thing things that things that could be considered terrorism If you want to go by the legal definition of terrorism, right, right

I I agree and when you expand that picture out, I think you'd find very similar things, but in this case because we're Dealing with a person leaving bombs all over the place and alex is defensive about it and talking about how the right-wing doesn't do that Stuff, it's always the left and shit like that. Yeah, I feel like it's important to Look at this reality The only way for the right wing to discuss this element of reality is to present all the terrorism that is being done by their side Is false flags? There's literally no other way to avoid looking in the mirror and realizing that the statistics are terrifying They've actually outlawed mirrors globally the number of terrorist attacks has been on a healthy decline since 2014

17 000 or so attacks in 2014 as compared to 11 000 or so in 2017 There's a drop-off going that is very considerable But in this country that trend is reversed in 2015 there were less than 40 such incidents in 2016 and 2017 The years when trump's rhetoric has shifted the overton window that dictates what sort of things are acceptable public speech We see that number jump to 64 and 65 in those years respectively So while the rest of the world is uh, even the middle east the numbers are going down We see ours going way up and the share of them being right-wing extremists going way up with it Yeah

So I mean the reality of what alex wants to talk about just isn't true and that's why he has to call all of this false He has to call all of this fake or else you have to wrestle with the idea that like maybe we're doing this Maybe this is something that uh, we are responsible for but if you do that if alex and fox news and Fucking loo dobs or whoever if they ever actually say maybe what we're doing is Insighting violence. Mm-hmm. Their ratings are going to go down, right? Isn't that their big issue? Like the biggest problem they have is not are we are we Causing the needless deaths of people. It's

Well, look at how popular we are now that we're calling for violence. Yeah, there's a lot of ass covering There's a lot of like, uh, this is what we do. This is my job. Yeah, and so yeah, of course, of course I mean, yeah, naturally it's I mean, it's It's dehumanization on a mass scale because I mean you look at you look at the numbers and not all of those attacks Or fatal or anything like that. That's good. Yeah, but there are a number that are and When when you look at that and you realize the human toll that those numbers represent and you realize like oh Huh

Maybe maybe we have a hand in that maybe we're not a public good Yeah, I mean it's tough, but you know the dollars I'm so glad that I'm not in the place Because this is something that I would I imagine that every like Human fox news employee has to wrestle with on a daily basis of like I'm part of the evil here. Yeah, I wonder how many of those are left. Yeah, exactly

Should I like can I in good conscience keep working? I make I make enough money to survive And if I just quit this job with nothing lined up, I might go broke and have nothing To fall back on. Yeah, but at the same time, it's probably a moral imperative not to work for fox news Yeah, it's tough. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how that would work Or I don't know what that would be like. I don't know what I would do. I do know what I would do I'd move back to Missouri or something. Yeah. Yeah, I would move in with my parents and kill myself. I guess sure So, um, Alex has been saying that like I've been predicting this and he has he's been touting that he has Tons of proof tons of articles to make his own proof. Um, and here is uh, that

show Alex jones says platform bands are first step in globalist plot to carry out violent false flags. That's august 6th When we had red alerts about that Now it's beginning august 4th protest false flag warning a perfect storm for stage deaths to demonize conservatives It's also a perfect storm for conservatives to bob censorship purge points to imminent false flag violence Before midterm elections bigger than 9 11 to be blamed on trump and alex jones. That's a mike adams article Emergency deep state democrats preparing false flag attacks against media big tech to steal election The next stage of media censorship again is about to be launched august 16

Emergency alert media false flag imminent alex jones and roger stone issue an emergency warning about the latest media attacks and to cry violence Media false flag imminent millie weaver august 17th alex jones warns the deep state will bomb federal buildings and blame info wars We've got that video coming up And here we are two months later immediately after i put those out Emergency report trump must take action now to stop false flags If not, he could fall victim to globalist trick that i predicted they would launch two weeks before the election We have the clip where i call

Specifically two weeks before they would launch the bomb false flags Do you have all those clips where you predicted the summer of rage alex? Do you have all those clips where you predicted that the dollar was about to be Completely devalued and everyone should buy gold if you say things repeatedly and keep varying up what you're predicting Eventually something you're gonna have a clip where you're like, haha. I was right. Yeah So, I mean, yes, he probably did say in like two weeks before the election But I also guarantee there's a clip there. He says a month before the election Oh, yeah, I guarantee there's another clip where he says the day of I guarantee there's a clip last year where he says

It's coming. I guarantee there's a clip before 2016 100 where he says there's a false flag coming now 2015 in 2014 are you getting a pattern now the further thing that's really important here is all of those headlines are info wars articles Oh, they are this isn't proving anything except that he keeps saying this None of it depicts reality at all None of it like at no point in any of those articles or in anything that he says does he actually prove In any way that the media is planning to false flag themselves He just keeps saying it and then uses those articles that he and his team himself have produced As evidence that I got it right. I got it right because this happened

right so The way that he likes to try and present this the argument that he tries to make about this Is that he the reason that he's able to make these predictions throughout august and and all this is because it's like when you see commercials for the mcrib You know that the mcrib is coming back Okay, because the commercials are telling you that the mcrib is coming back Right, so he sees the media say that his rhetoric is dangerous and that means to him I know that that means they're going to false flag themselves to blame me

So he writes all these articles And then you know when an attack happens Bing So, I mean sooner or later a death cult is going to get the end of the world, right? Well, hold on because that's a little too extreme in this case His version of it is this idea of like advertising. It's like, you know McDonald's wants you to buy this thing in the future. So they prepare you to know that it's coming right or whatever, right? And that's great. That's great. I'm not going to take away from his argument. That's that's super fun

But what I would rather relate it to I would like to talk about alex's actions as opposed to the media Because personally, I believe the media is pretty accurately warning people about the consequences of dehumanizing and violent dangerous rhetoric So when I look at alex's behavior of him consistently saying The media is going to false flag themselves writing article after article about it It's less like an advertisement And what it is is it seems more like the pr department at a company that knows they're about to get caught for something Yeah, you know, it's like we know we've been littering and polluting for a long time

Right, we're pretty worried that uh, somebody's about to put out a report about it Right. So what we're going to do is preemptively put a report out about how the watchdog group isn't uh, they're they're not credible They uh, they have been taking money from uh, interests that want to take us down Yeah, because then when that report comes out about the polluting that they were actually doing You have that to fall back on that that that groundwork has been laid before the story comes out and you'd be like Oh, no, look, we're not responding to this story We're responding to like we know that they're they're dirty it's uh, it's a

It's a dad who's who's like killed three people and the cops are getting on to him But he's like a month out and he's just talking to his kids and he's like They're gonna say a lot of bad things about your daddy, but let me tell you something. None of it's true I mean, I did kill those three people, but none of what they say is true You're gonna hear a lot of things, but you don't believe any of their evidence You don't believe anything anybody tells you but what daddy says and daddy says i'm innocent And that's it. Yeah Whichever example you want to use my my business that's polluting or the murderous dad either way that you want to go with it

One of those is very well, but what it all comes down to and comes back to is exactly what you're saying at the beginning of this That they know the end result of their actions as well They know like alex jones wouldn't make all of these posts and make such a big deal Of talking about how the media is gonna false flag themselves if he didn't have a keen awareness that Trump's saying that uh the media is the enemy of the american people and me doing demon voices about brian stelter And talking about how he needs to fall and he wants to kill and rape your family Yep He has to know that the natural end result of that when a unhinged person hears those sorts of rhetoric

The natural end result is quite possibly Someone hurting these people. This is pre-emptive damage control for that. It is not It's not predictive No, except for the fact that he's predicting that this will happen. It is also something I would say akin to like Trying to make it happen by bringing it into the world like maybe maybe maybe maybe but that That wants it to happen too. Maybe I don't know. I don't know about that I'm only halting you a little bit because I think that's too close to alex's predictive program. No, no, no, no

That's not what I meant. I mean more like he knows that it is so I'm throwing in this thing of like Regardless, you know, it is it is damage control pre-emptive pr, right? But at the same time while he's writing those stories There has got to be a little part of him that's like and I hope this happens. So I'm right Oh, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe there's a kernel of that in the back of his head I mean, I know from listening to as much of him as I do. He's never happier than when he gets to say he's right

Yep So yeah, I think there's probably a psychological piece of it that's like that But I would stop short of saying like he hopes someone gets hurt. No, no, no, but I think he probably doesn't care if someone gets hurt Absolutely to make him right. Exactly. So there is something like that Especially if it's two birds with one stone Or you know one roger stone 10 birds with one stone so to speak two birds with one roger stone. That's our new shirt. So Like are there are there any two worse shirts than those? So I think that we're kind of getting the idea here that

You know, we it's pretty easy to smell through what alex's rhetoric is serving You know, it's pretty easy and this next clip is even more overt and now the last piece 13 days out We'll be finding out that it's a right-wing extremist and blaming on us And saying he visited info wars. He visited drudge report. He visited Tucker Carlson. He watched fox news You can you can see the scripting and boy, we told you jones need to be taken off the air and now why

Why he mailed the bombs or or his his somebody he influenced mail the bombs And this is just to gauge And create anxiety that it's the right wing and that hillary and Soros and obama and cnn are good guys that are just trying to talk about the news and help america And so we've been resisting them and saying they're globalists and so We've been saying dirty words like nationalists and other evil stuff. And so now With the election 13 days away You know, they're planning bigger events now now that they've named themselves as the victims

And have created the hype of the fear Now there can be the big event and then they can bust the group or individuals or the or the blown wolf That's behind it and properly blame all of us. Remember So you see there that's the that's the next step of the laying the track He named like tons and tons of things that are I wouldn't say that I know that this person or persons Who's responsible was inspired by tucker carlson You know saying alex is spiritually responsible isn't even saying that the person was Influenced by alex directly necessarily

And but he's he's doing all that because he needs to say all of that in case any of those things are true Yeah, because then he's like look i told you beforehand. That's what they were gonna say. Yeah, it's all the same shit. It's very boring Also, there's such a there's such a thing that he he has to do uh, which is that like uh right-wing like soy boy This this part of like and the media is trying to portray them all as these good guys who are just trying to report and it's like

No, it doesn't matter if they're good guys not at all. It doesn't matter at all. No, don't bomb people Yeah, yeah, you know like why can't you just start there? That's a bit that that would be a great You could just start there like hey, it's a bad idea to bomb people not the media says It's a bad idea to bomb these guys because they're good I don't even think in listening to this episode that I heard him say it's bad. You know Of course, I didn't even realize that. No, no, no, you're right. You're right. He he does they do the disclaimer But that doesn't say that they think it's a bad idea to bomb people. No, they say that they're they're saying it's not on us It's not our fault that people get bomb. It's not on us

Jesus, yeah He's fucking idiots. So but what he's doing is trying to like do play this game where he's like, uh, you know They're trying to get sympathy for themselves trying to make themselves seem like victims and demonizing Demonizing us. That's the false flag. You know, you got this false flag And then the next stage of it is when they're going to reveal the person that did it and it's going to be like us Oh, they're gonna bring out somebody who's wearing an Locker-up shirt who's who's got a long history of posting on the internet about how all of these Liberals should die. Which is all fake. Who's who's just so easy to fake that stuff who has a history of domestic abuse

who all all of these things that We know is just so scripted because they've happened before sure a lot of times and it's a script always, right? It's a script. That's how we know that it's scripted is because it happens so frequently It has to be scripted. Otherwise it wouldn't happen frequently, Dan It's not like similar offenders have similar psychological profiles and patterns. No that people with statistics can track Yeah, that's all false flags So I was thinking about this the nature of the false flag stuff and the false flag Accusations that get made when they get made and one of the things I realized is that there's a real general trend among people to claim

That things that would tend to make them be seen in a realistic way are actually elaborate plots against them And there's no better example of this than the fallout that happened after the unite the right rally in Charlottesville Initially the hard-right media figures were totally fine with the rally and supported it as they saw it as an extension of their mission to Quote protect and stand up for the west sure Gavin McGinnis had the organizer of the rally Jason Kessler on his show to promote the rally Alex was firmly in support of the rally Absolutely people on both sides But then the reality of the worlds that they helped facilitate became publicly visible

Nazis white supremacists and weird fascists were there sporting their uniforms unashamed in the light of day Wholeheartedly on Alex and Gavin McGinnis' side Then Heather Hayer got murdered Then videos of a group of white men beating the shit out of deandre harris with metal pipes and boards came out The optics were too obvious To anyone who was looking at the situation what the reality was except for the president Things didn't get better when it came out that the rally organizer Jason Kessler was at least a second-degree member of McGinnis' proud boys street gang Immediately McGinnis went into damage control mode and alleged that Kessler wasn't really a proud boy

And they'd be coming to proud boy meetings under false pretenses false flag Kessler being a proud boy was a false flag to associate his definitely not white nationalist street gang with street gang style Violence perpetrated by a group of real white nationalists Alex would do the same thing having Kessler on his show to try and get him to confess that the whole rally was a setup And that Kessler was actually a democrat It didn't work But Alex got the pivot that he needed to still claim that Kessler wasn't on the up and up with the patriot movement And thus he too branded the charlottesville tragedy a globalist false flag

The appropriate response to a situation like the one in charlottesville is deep reflection and empathy Unfortunately for people like Alex and Gavin empathy is weakness and deep reflection leads people to realize that they are the problem So that's out. So but you realize galease was shot. Yeah Did did any left-wing media say that it was a false flag perpetrated by Didn't you see rachel maddow going out and screaming about the No, no they didn't no they said it was awful Did they interview that guy and say that he was actually a plant by the republicans? No, but they did interview. Uh, I believe like uh, the guy who committed the offense

Uh, he interviewed his neighbor and he said, uh, you know, you just you know, seem like a nice guy the standard interview that you Have with a serial killer's neighbor and Alex has latched onto that is like See yeah, that's trying to say that he was a good guy great that sort of thing. So there's that version of it No, no, they didn't end up talking to the the shooter at that that ballpark and uh being like, uh, hey You're really working for the coke brothers trying to make liberals look bad. Yeah. Yeah Anyway, it's all nonsense But I it is interesting to me that I started to realize and I think I've always kind of known this but the false flag accusation really only comes out

Uh, at least these days because I don't think this was necessarily the motivation behind him being like 9 11 was fake I think that was just a good business opportunity But like these days and it's true these days Well, not his version, but yeah These days it comes out so much when it's like, okay, this can't be part of what people think about us Therefore it's a false flag. Yep, because if they believe this about us We can't continue to operate the way we have been Yep, we will not be allowed to or we'll be so obviously monsters that we have to deny the reality

And by denying it they reveal themselves to be obviously monsters. No doubt. No doubt So on the episode that we did, uh about tuesday's episode We heard alex saying that uh, he is uh death to george soros The grim reaper come to his door. Yep. Uh, I am death. I am death And he named several of the people who then the next day would receive bombs Which was upsetting when I woke up in the morning It's it's a little bit on the nose a little bit and to the point where I've been looking uh online Because he also named lord roth child. Yeah, we're checking to see if lord roth child had a bomb

Did this fly onto the radar? Because that would have been like, oh my god, he's batting a thousand still for Proudly claiming that he was right about that too. What do you mean? No that he predicted. No He's pretending. He didn't say that because the optics of I am death. I am death. And then the people no, that's not good No, good. He's just pretending. He didn't say it. He's not he shouldn't he be crowing about no, no, no, no No, he predicted it. It was too much Oh, yeah, it was relishing it too much in a way that would I think

I think he would feel that it would uh take away from his Uh credibility. Oh, you think so? Maybe I don't know. All right now This is crazy to ask you. Are we hanging on to that clip? Maybe You think that one might be uh, I think that one might be there for a while. It might be an evergreen. Yeah so But on this episode now we're which are covering this is the wednesday episode And now he's actually talking about the situation and man, he's still not being like, uh, cool about it to these people The articles on info wars dot com steve watson trump is hitler

Excuse me. It's worse than that unhinged democrats and leftist media call potis fascist dictator For saying america even exists and that's really all he's saying. No, that's not what he's saying Was that the headliner? Was he editorialized? That's the upside down And they're saying we're gonna cause violence and then a pipe bomb shows up at george soros the kingpin To make him the poor baby and the headline is in all these papers last night today the same headline Holocaust survivor He survived the nazis the poor thing

And now he's facing pipe bombs He worked for the nazis and said it was the best time of his life. Not true Uh, not true. I'm done with soros. I can't I can't imagine this level of being a shithead like I get alex needing to constantly say that soros is a nazi collaborator by taking that 60 minutes interview and other interviews that he's done Completely and wildly out of context and assert that he uh, you know, he has steve pecanic ontoculum a uden rat and shit like that You know, of course you got to do these things. It makes sense when you're demonizing your philanthropist enemy Uh, this is this is a good good strategy. Yeah, I understand that you've got to say, uh, these sorts of things are false flags as like preemptive

Uh damage control for yourself But I can't understand the level of shithead you have to be to combine the two Like the day after because on some level alex fucking knows this isn't a false flag Yeah, he knows damn well. He knows damn well that these people's lives were, uh, at very least threatened You know, like whether or not these bombs a message was sent a terrorist message Right, right and you know, I don't know if you've ever had your life threatened If you ever had someone say they were gonna kill you. Yeah I I have as well and I knew that it wasn't credible

You know, like I well back when I used to write for my campus paper I'd have death threats all the time and those were just like I'd be like, yeah Fuck yourself. Yeah, that's all that sort of thing I'd write back and try and antagonize them because it was I smoked a lot of weed and I thought it was funny back then Yeah, but when I worked at a movie theater was a little bit younger Some guy came in and I had to kick him out because he was acting up like crazy He said he was gonna come back and kill me And I knew that he wasn't going to do it

But it shook me on an unbelievable level that I had to leave I had I like I was like I have to I can't stay and do the rest of my shift Just pretty unlike me and I you know, I went home And then I was like peeking out my windows and stuff. It did a real number on me Now granted that one is that was when I was like 16 17 years old And these are adults who are much better adjusted than than I was at the time probably right But anytime a bomb shows up where you are Not gonna not leave a impression on you now

So when alex gets on air and he's like first of all, this is fake And it's great because it makes Soros look like a sweet little baby. He's a Nazi Hitler collaborator It's a good day. It's it's inhuman. It's like it's just it's unfeeling levels of callous cruelty that um It's pretty it's pretty surprising. I mean, it's not but it's it feels it feels real Nasty my life was threatened. Uh, I was 18 and uh, I was Broke so I was hustling but I was actually a really good pool player for a while All right, so I was hustling pool for a bit to to make money on the side. Sure. Uh, and one night I got my ass beat

to the tune of like 100 200 bucks And the way that I was hustling was that I was always playing with a House cue, right? You'd never bring your own cue if you're actually gonna hustle. Okay. Uh, I didn't know that was the rule Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this dude I was like, I don't have this much money on me Uh, I got to go to my car. Uh, and he was like, okay, man, that's fine. But leave your cue here So I skipped out on it because of course I'm gonna do that. Right. What are you talking about? What are you gonna sue me? Fuck off. We're playing pool and I'm not gonna pay you, right? Okay. Um

Dishonorable. Yeah, exactly. I was broke broke back backstabber demon Um, so then like maybe two years later. I wound up going back to uh, not the same place But back to the city where I was doing it. I hadn't been there for forever and uh, I was just walking by this this, uh Like pool table area and this dude fucking was like Hey, wait a second. Mm-hmm. And I was like, uh, yeah Uh, because I recognized him immediately And he was like, uh

Wait, did you I think I know you and I Was like, no, you can't and he was like, can I see your ID? And I was like, holy shit. And then he went full on like, I'm gonna fucking kill you when you leave this place Oh, uh, yeah. I live here now. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so I wound up sneaking out the back and uh, telling a one of the managers I was like, hey that guy he just said he was gonna try and fucking kill me So he snuck me out the back and I immediately bailed as fast as I could Yeah

It's a rough life. Yeah The the life of a pool hustler. Sure. Sure I was I was living like tom cruise in the color of money. So that I mean it shakes you You know, it's never it's never not a good feeling. Uh, wait, it's never a good feeling. Um And so, you know, I know that Soros doesn't listen to info wars But the idea of being this cruel to somebody who has just, uh, received a bomb I find it I find it, uh Deplorable. Yeah, quite frankly. It's it's not good. Yeah, it's horrible. So anyway, he talks more about Soros

And then he's quarterbacking all this stuff. So he gets a pipe bomb And then it's like, oh, you don't get a pipe bomb. You get a pipe bomb. You get a pipe bomb. You get a pipe bomb That one coming for a mile away poor babies poor babies That helped fund the arab spring and the overthrow of ukraine. What the fuck are you doing? And now Bombs are there. They're such victims There are hundreds of cases of declassified false flags. It's the oldest trick in the book Everybody knows you about movies like and tv shows like house of cards That's a tv show where they're throwing bricks through each other's window. That's where the oldest tricks in the book

Sure. And so I've predicted it all. It isn't hard to predict The issue that I have is yes, there are false flags that have happened in history Saying that doesn't prove that any individual thing is one No, it proves all of them are just because x does exist doesn't mean all things are x That is horrible thinking and he doesn't go much further than that in terms of trying to prove this His arguments are essentially false flags do exist. It's the oldest trick in the book. Therefore. This is a false flag Right. I saw it coming. I predicted this based on all of these articles that I wrote about this Which are really just preemptive damage control because I know that someone's gonna fucking attack them eventually

And I don't want the heat That's all he's got. That's all the evidence that he gives it's It's super thin Um, so I want to talk to you a little bit about bombings Because there's another talking point that alex jones doesn't bring up But I've seen posted a lot by these shitheads on twitter About like, of course, it's fake. None of them went off Of course that like obviously if there was a bombing they would have blown up

And I need to address this because I whether or not alex brings it up in what we're covering I'm sure he'll bring it up eventually because it's caught fire with the the twitter sphere and this needs to be addressed There are a few super important points, uh, that you need to know about making bombs One super easy. They're very very regularly. Don't work. It's very consistent The process of successfully bombing someone involves so many variables along with factors completely outside of the perpetrator's control That they're nearly impossible to pull off Two since the 1970s, there are virtually no left-wing bombings in the united states Now granted there were a bunch in the 70s. Yeah. Well, again, there's the 70s, Dan

It's a different time but since the hippies had just died and it was the beginning of the rain now since then It uh, specifically has not been the behavior of the left again If you exclude environmental terrorism and animal rights activist groups, which I don't believe are necessarily appropriate to fit under the umbrella of Left-wing terrorism as alex would like to present. Right. I think that would be disingenuous and unfair Yeah, it's not like they're bombing to get A health care, right, you know like they're bombing to bring attention to an issue that nobody is talking about That would be the equivalent of left-wing terrorism for alex's right-wing terrorism

You can find plenty of lists of bombings and terrorist acts and you'll find that the lists are littered with disrupted plots And people who made their bombs wrong so they didn't end up detonating It's the exception not the rule that a bomb actually goes off when someone plans to bomb people One of the very few large-scale bombings that were successful was the boston bombing Another was the string of bombings in new york and new jersey between september 17th and 19th 2016 Which left 35 people injured the perpetrator have said bombings was a gun enthusiast who had previously been arrested for stabbing His brother in the leg after quote the victim and another brother attempted to stop him from assaulting their mother and sister Left-wing terrorist he spent a few months in jail and later became radicalized by online jihadi materials

Which is said to have been inspirational in his planning of his bombing Then what you're saying in his past. He has some sort of violence against women right and online radicalization Then we have the austin situation which terrorized austin for 19 days In march of this year, I believe And led to the deaths of three it was done by a 23 year old man whose motivations are still not totally clear But he was absolutely not a liberal. It wasn't a leftist motivated thing at all And that was another one that alex had all of his predictions wrong about which was fun You can go back and listen to those episodes on the list of bombings since 9 11

You'll find a few that are bombings of mosques and specifically targeting muslims One of them was a man in spokane who intended to bomb the path of a martin luther king day parade One of them targeted the new york mexican consulate left wing one of them was a bizarre homage to fight club Zero of them have been carried out by leftists again with the exception of environmental extremists and animal rights extremists Almost all modern bombing behavior is attributable to isis related terrorism and far right terrorism This is just how the facts break down But I think there's a more important thing that you see here and that's the overwhelming majority of bombings do not go As the bomber planned

It's incredibly hard to make bombs Then it's even more difficult to deliver them where you want them to be and make them detonate when you want without someone finding them First exactly. This is why you see so many failed bomb plots through history And why we so clearly remember the ones that did reach completion because they're the exception to the rule And they're deeply emotionally scarring to everybody. It's hard to build a bomb. It is that's why it's the it's like Not the way we do mass killings in america We do it with guns. Yep. When you look at those statistics, it's even darker. Yeah, which we don't need to get into today necessarily But yeah, man, it's it's one of those things and it's like so

The idea that none of these things went off is so Foolish as an argument as to the reality of it because a number of these people had secret service details They're going to find that sort of thing immediately or george soros is a goddamn billionaire He has people who are working working there and are going to find these things And even the play the ones that were left at people's offices They have security guards who are trained in these sorts of things So if you if you leave a bomb somewhere where you want it to explode It's so hard for someone not to find it and for you to get the timing right so it hurts the person that you want

Exactly. It's very difficult. That argument is meaningless. It's surprising More not that none of the bombs went off Or yeah, it's surprising more that not like one of the bombs went off and just killed some staffer Right like that's they none of the people who got bombs were ever really in danger It was it's the people who work for them which furthers your argument that it's more about a message than anything else Yeah, um, but we should know that the media chose alex jones preemptively in order to do this Uh to blame him and make him the patsy and he knows that because Of one of the anchors at cnn who is not named brian stelter. Okay, they don't go through every news channel

Of the fake news in the country and all say in unison alex jones. I've got chills lester holt said Yeah, i'm really scared when he said kill us with bombs or kill us with guns and battle rifles And jack dorsi goes, I know I know it's terrible, but we're not gonna ban him yet To make it act like they're not censoring. Oh, they held back so he could go around and do that whole tour of disinformation A sigh op you know when they're on every channel saying you're saying kill the media And you and you didn't say it And they don't have proof you said it that something bad is about to happen. They don't go for broke like that

They don't tell lies that big you say they do all the time unless they're getting ready You say to attack themselves with bombs and guns And poison oh and poison. Oh, there's poison now. Oh, yeah, when did poison come into this? I think he realized ah shit someone might send up an envelope or something. We gotta you know do damage toss some Rice in they're saying rice in is coming. Oh That way whenever somebody does send it I don't particularly care to parse through lester holt's take on alex jones's battle rifle comment

I initially was more on alex's side about it And that the context of it wasn't about an offensive sort of thing That was sort of my angle on it But I got some emails from listeners informing me that the term battle rifle has a bit of a different connotation than I know about So i'm gonna leave that alone and respect that I may not understand the whole context as a non gun non military serving person Right, I don't know. I can't speak to that But I so I don't want to get mixed up too much. It's someone who does not have a battle rifle Not gonna not gonna dip my toes. Yeah, i'm gonna i'm gonna pass and allow a listen to others and

Yeah Listen to their perspective. I don't so I don't I don't really have a take on lester holt's comments But I'll fine right but what I can tell you is that lester holt's discussion of alex jones's comments came after a number of things One of them was alex jones and mike sernovich getting on air and starting a contest where they were going to pay people to go on live tv And yell cnn is isis It was a formal contest that alex launched promising thousands of dollars to people to equate a news network with a terrorist organization That we're presumably at war with A little bit after that brandon greesmer was arrested this january after he made four calls to cnn on january 9th and 10th

In which he made terrorist threats and talked shit about the jews and black people in one call He said quote. I'm coming to gun you all down. I'm on my way right now to gun the fucking cnn cast down I'm coming to kill you He referred to them as fake news and dropped a couple n words for good measure The president of this country had previously called the fake news media the enemy of the people He'd frequently attacked cnn at rallies press conferences and on twitter It's no surprise that lester holt would take something appearing to be a threat seriously seeing as That's something that's happened quite a bit to him recently. Yeah

So alex refusing to accept that sort of context just saying like oh out of nowhere Lester holt was like i'm threatening him because i talked about get your battle rifles ready. Yeah, it seems I mean The weakest critique we can always have for alex is like being a little unfair But it's a little unfair to attack uh and say like oh, this is all media scripting of this same thing It's like you you're not taking into context the things that came before that Because they make your argument look like shit I mean it you could describe it as media scripting, but it's the script that the right wing media has written

Yeah, like they've written this whole they've created this whole situation where this is Going to be a result, but when you say scripting in that sense I think what you're talking about is inadvertent consequences. Yeah, it's not like because no no It's not like they wrote the script where at the end of it. They know exactly what's going to happen It's more like it's more like they have created a sandbox Where all of these elements are in place And the only logical endpoint to this sandbox is where we are now So in this next clip alex brags about how insightful he is

But at the same time the worst thing that he could brag about we have to consider that that lives In the atmosphere of him being literally wrong about almost everything And just like I said, how do you know when a new coca-cola flavor is coming out? Because you see billboards everywhere and there's ads on radio and tv and you go Oh, there's a new coke coming out or when does mcribb come back? You don't go to mcdonald's i'm gonna don't you see the stupid mcribb ads mcribb is back for a limited time You go to mcdonald's When they come out and they say alex jones says blow up and shoot the media and trump says kill the media

And it's not true And they've got a history of staging crap and there are a pack of criminals that works with radical islam You name it and say ms 13 or god's children You better believe these scumbags in the deep state haven't given up and they don't want america to return And they don't want our republic back so they're crapping their filthy breaches and they're gonna pull anything And if we can't see the giant setup to this we're crazy You are crazy You are crazy because you see this as a giant setup as opposed to seeing the trends that have been pushed forward by your side

the the the worst part of all of that is He's essentially saying it's okay to bomb your enemies Oh, no, that's another thing that I was going to get into is that like what we're seeing is a normalization of bombing Yeah, we are seeing literally in front of our eyes a normalization of domestic terrorism. Yeah, that is so crazy that's but How how evil is it for you to watch people get?

Terrorized and then say one it's a false flag that they're perpetrating And that makes them so evil and such scumbags that it's like what dot dot dot fine to bomb Cool. It's cool. They have it coming. We're right, right Like let's imagine a scenario where I know that we're not that important So it doesn't really matter But like let's imagine a scenario where someone bombs me and I die something like that. That's how I would oh man There'd be an internal bomb. Oh, I'd blow you up. So let's imagine something like that happens. All right, sure I get killed in a bombing. Yeah, let's say. Yeah

Alex Jones Knows that I demonize him all the time on this show, right, right? So it would be an easy argument to make that like He attacked himself to make it look like one of my fans attacked him something like that. Sure Well, I mean, it's I mean, that's exactly what he's doing. Yeah, right. I'm I'm I'm putting this in like a local personal human level like The only difference between that and what we're seeing now is I'm Discussing a bomb that did go off. Yeah, if any of these let's say

All but one of these bombs didn't go off But one of them did and killed Debbie Wasserman Schultz Could he still make this argument? You bet he would You fucking bet he would and if you would do it with one of them going off He'd do it with all of them going off. Yep this is Like I know that we have talked about for two years on this show All he does is normalize and excuse white violence

and pretend that white Violence and terrorism don't exist But the level that he's going to here is profoundly dangerous and what it implies for the future is so fucked up Right. It's so scary and To hammer this point home Two years ago when we started this podcast, Alex Jones was a crazy person. Right and now Every single fucking right wing media outlet is saying it's a false flag like Alex is Thereby normalizing bombing the same way Alex does too. We thought we were out on the middle of the fringe then

We were we were way out there. We were we thought there's no way We were gonna have to talk about the real world now and it turns out we're is this our fault No, is this our fault for doing this podcast Maybe we normalize this language based based on our audience. We literally can't be once Fox news Listen to our podcast. They were like, hey, see Alex gets away with it I don't know about that. But yeah, you're right though. Two years ago It was a very different landscape where Alex was seen as like, whoa Yeah, he was out there and now he's right in line now. We're all in there. Right. That's absolutely right

It's not it's not that uh, Alex has changed into the g.o.p. Although He's become much more of a quote basic bitch. Yeah of the right. Yeah It's that the right has come to him in terms of the craziness right and the uh the overton window shifted to him I don't think anyone even us could have predicted that never but what in a million years What it implies is the like literally the most dangerous mentality that is possible because Anytime now that any attack happens on people on the left This is going to be the narrative that all of these shitheads on twitter and Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs

That is going to be something that's going to be a card they can play Yeah, and when and now that they've now that they've played that card It seems like they can't go back. Well, it means right can't so it it turns out that it is a right wing bomber, right? They've already called it a false flag, right? So they're going to have to continue calling it a false flag Otherwise, they're going to have to stop what they're doing and that person will have to be a patsy. They'll have to be innocent Yeah, uh, yeah, the whole thing the entire right wing media now has tied themselves to the false flag narrative And it's not going backward. Well, but you you understand. I mean like this is the sort of next progression from

Accepting a lot of the conspiracy theory stuff that propped up As trump was running became much more normal And then as it got closer to the election it became even more normal than after it just went crazy But on a on a smaller level you have The normalization in the right wing media, especially fox news of this idea that antifa and the proud boys Let's say are the same thing. Yeah, you have this idea where and they're pretending that antifa is some sort of organized Group that uh with meetings right and a leader and all they want to do is go and beat up christians Yeah, right. They have that perspective as opposed to it being a loose knit group of unorganized

small groups of people who go and counter demonstrate against fascists. Yep fascist Anti fascist and are willing to fight with them as opposed to a lot of other groups who would demonstrate Against these people So you have that on that side and then with the proud boys you have a shithead Cult leader like gavin mcginnis who screams all the time about how he wants violence and thinks that society is too weak We should kick the shit out of each other And has a group with a regimented structure where the fourth level of it is you have to beat somebody up or get arrested

For the cause he incentivizes this idea of going and wait, that's really on there That's the fourth level of the proud boys. It's the fourth uh fourth tier. That's real. Yeah, you have to get into a Is that illegal? I guess not Can't you not do that? No, because he pretends in the same way alex always does it pretends. It's a defensive Yeah, sure. It's defensive fighting off But of course what that's going to do is incentivize people picking fights with folks as opposed to there is nothing like that On the left there isn't a group of people who are like, all right, you get a cool badge if you go pick a fight with these people

What are they? It's crazy. Holy shit, but because that language of equivalence of the uh, the proud boys and Antifa are exactly the same and in fact antifa is worse and they're funded by george soros that sort of language about What the the broader picture of street fights? Yeah, or whatever. Yeah is the first step that leads us to make this okay Nick terrorism, okay And you know charlottesville president coming out and saying good people on both sides

That really helps that too. It muddies the water of what we're actually talking about And that even goes back to alex's saying that soros is a nazi collaborator Yep, because he never defines what nazi collaborator means which makes it so Evil Because if he said he is a nazi collaborator and by that I mean when he was a very young boy He was a part of the jewish council, which was an organization that oh, oh, I should also tell you this Back then they didn't let jewish kids go to school. And so they had to become a part of this It wasn't really something he chose to do

Oh, okay, but he was a part of this group and they would go deliver messages to jews around town And then if the you know, it was the summons and if they uh, you know, they'd give this message to the person They would end up getting taken away So young george soros told his dad about these messages He was told to deliver and his dad said deliver those messages But you tell everybody that you give that message to that if you show up to that meeting They are never going to come back you warned them that this is something that is not what it appears to be so soros as a young boy went around and he delivered those messages and

Warned people as his father did as well saved a number of people from the holocaust from being taken away to camps And then uh as a boy After he made that run was like i am not doing this anymore And so he disappeared and stopped uh stopped going into the jewish council Meetings that he was made to do because jews weren't allowed to go to school in those days My favorite part of the paul revere mythology is that he was called a british collaborator the entire time Remember how when you learned in high school that the person right who tells you that the the evil is coming right to destroy you That person is actually collaborating with that evil

How could they not be but but you want you understand like if he wanted to have that conversation about like what does collaborator mean Is that what you mean? Then that would be the weak like it would take all the power out of his declaration Like he's a naughty collaborator and by that i have the broadest definition for it. Yeah because you could say that Yeah as a kid he did make one run of these things but ended up subverting uh the process that he was Supposed to be a part of so like there's all this stuff and that is the essence of what's going wrong There's this like deterioration of definition. There's a deterioration of of truth of context of all this stuff just serving I don't even know defense people playing defense

chaos chaos Because i mean if you look at that if there's a lot of shitheads on twitter who are super popular who wouldn't be In any way if they weren't saying the shittiest things So for them there has to be some sort of a financial Incentive in having hundreds of thousands of followers, right? No, they don't have a gig otherwise And neither does alex at this point. I mean with what he said there too is like Even if it was a false flag His his argument is that cnn is trying to paint him as a

Oh poor little baby getting bombed right that guy's a nazi collaborator Which you put those two things together and what he's actually saying is Why would you care if he got bombed? Oh, no, he's a nazi. Oh, no totally. That's he's a nazi That should be bombed. That's definitely a piece of it. Yeah, he's a look. He's a nazi collaborator Why are you even trying to stop him from getting bombed? Why aren't you bombing him yourself? Why aren't you doing it right? There is a piece of that. Yeah, so um I have a couple more clips, but that's when you apply logic to it, which we can't we're not legally allowed to do anymore on this show It's it's uh

Trump outlawed reason and logic along with mirrors. Yeah. Yeah. I um, I We have a couple more clips, but before we do that. I want to talk a little bit about how um When I was preparing the episode for today There were a number of like I didn't want to talk about the present day, of course I don't want to put people through that And I think that a lot of the uh, very like I think a lot of the conversation we've been having is is fairly basic Uh, and I don't think that I'm not saying we're being stupid or anything, but it doesn't really charm me all that much to reiterate

Um, hey, uh, this is why he talks about false flags all the time. Yeah, this is uh, this is his way of Like you very eloquently put Admitting without admitting that he knows something is really bad Coming and he needs to not be on the hook for it So I started to wreck my brain and think about like what are other times that we could draw analogs to And one of them was the boston bombing and listening to that That was just a waste of an hour unless we did a dedicated episode about that. Yeah. Yeah. It just wasn't yeah, it wasn't right and so

It's it's hard for me to experience the things we're experiencing together as a country right now without thinking back to april 2010 That month was a month that was full of right-wing insanity and thus when I was planning out this episode I wanted to go back and see what alex was saying about a couple incidents that stuck out Imagine my surprise when I didn't find him saying anything and mostly just talking about how oklahoma city was a false flag a bunch Because april is the anniversary of the bombing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah so Some things I did learn though and one of them is that in april 2010

I can confirm for you that alex was pro tea party So he does end up getting on board with the tea party by april 2010 He was also pro oath keepers who were very closely aligned with the rising tide in the tea party And that's where april 2010 went in a wild direction On april 15th 2010 president of the cleveland chapter of the oath keepers. Matthew fairfield was arrested and indicted on 28 explosives charges 25 counts of receiving stolen property and one count of possessing criminal tools when the police searched his home They found a literal napalm bomb that he had constructed as well as child pornography From an article on cleveland.com quote a tough

To hander Jesus yeah quote a retired atf agent said that the discovery of the homemade bomb was particularly troubling because napalm is designed to target people Of course, uh, this wasn't any kind of isolated event Quote fairfield was previously convicted and sentenced to two years probation in february for carrying concealed weapons He strapped a loaded gun to his ankle while attending an event at a country fairgrounds The napalm bomb is obviously a huge red flag, but this guy also had a bit of an armory going Quote officers seized a detonator car detonators two m4 assault rifles a 12 gauge pump action shotgun A 22 caliber bolt action rifle and two semi automatic handguns from the home

He was hunting right this guy. This was a guy who was arrested on 28 explosives charges And he built a napalm bomb among other bombs generally speaking you do not build bombs for recreation They're intended to be used a bomb just sitting around is a bomb that is not serving its only purpose So I went back and listened to episodes around the time of fairfield's arrest and uh, uh, there was an article that came out a couple days After his arrest so I checked that day too to see if like maybe alex missed the news when it happened And I expected alex to say it was a false flag and there was attempt to besmirch the good name of the oath keepers But what I found instead was him not bringing up the story at all radio silence radio silence And what's difficult for me about that is I had to listen to all of that. Yeah, and I can't prove to you a negative

I can't sit here and play a clip of him not saying that right I would have to just say go ahead and waste four hours in your life to see that he doesn't and that's Unsatisfying and I knew that couldn't be an episode but I still want to fucking talk about this Yeah, I get it So here was the president of the oath keepers chapter in a city of a population over two million people Being arrested for building a bomb that was meant to target people with napalm And alex doesn't talk about it at all Doesn't come up in the least

That sucks because I kind of wish that alex had claimed it was a false flag mate meant to make the oath keepers look bad Because then I could have told you all about darin huff the tennessee oath keeper who got arrested on april 30th 2010 for planning an armed takeover of madisonville tennessee's courthouse where he would assert control then put everyone under citizen's arrest I could tell you about how he had 300 rounds of ammo and an ak-47 as well as a handgun because quote I've got my 45 because ain't no government official gonna go peacefully I could tell you about how huff only went to take over that town because they were hosting a trial for a sovereign citizen Weirdo named walter francis fitz patrick who's being tried for trying to make a citizen's arrest on the foreman of a grand jury That he had nothing to do with which led to him being charged with inciting a riot and disrupting an official public meeting

I could tell you that huff was under surveillance the entire time He was traveling from his home in georgia to madisonville because he bragged to a bank employee that he and some militia buddies Were gonna take over madisonville. I could tell you about how the city of thank god these people are so fucking stupid I could tell you about how the city of madisonville Surreptitiously rescheduled fitz patrick's hearing and told courthouse employees to stay home that day So huff and his militia buddies ended up showing up to an empty courthouse under total surveillance Jesus and how he got four years in prison. He only got four years in prison And no one ended up getting hurt. They all you know you get to all you can get him for at that point is like intent

You know what i'm saying? Yeah, we should really take over a small town We should really be working on those laws of like hey if you're trying to Take over a town we're gonna you're can you It seems like the stakes should be higher and we might see a lot of that in the future. So It might be good to have a town meeting. Yeah, we might as well We might start want to start writing some stuff down I could tell you about countless other very serious, but sometimes a little bit goofy like that last one

Lots that have been planned or carried out by right wing groups in this country Just because something doesn't go off as planned doesn't mean that it's fake Which is an important distinction and secondarily there is a ton of oath keeper related right wing violence And terrorism that alex just doesn't even talk about he doesn't want doesn't even doesn't even make the effort to say It's a false flag So earlier when you were bringing up this idea of like what does he call a false flag and you were suggesting All of the things that you could pin on the right or false flags often

He just doesn't talk about it And this one like this dude this initial dude here This guy, uh, matthew fairfield Is a one to one parallel here. He was a guy who was making multiple bombs one of them a napalm bomb I mean This is the sort of thing that you see So the I how long is he in prison for Uh, I don't remember. It's I think it was 16 years

I get it that should be so much longer I get it mixed up because there was another story about another guy from the oath keepers who may or may not have had a stolen A grenade launcher that he claimed. I didn't know it was a grenade launcher. What? And uh, yeah, he ended up going to prison for uh, raping a seven-year-old Twist plot twist God damn these fucking guys. Yeah, what do we got to do? I don't know. I don't know but alex doesn't talk about it

What happened? It's so you you so that remember that island in hawaii, right? Molokai. Yeah, the one there's a leper colony. No, no, no the one that was that's underwater now Oh, can we put them on that the one that's underwater now? Yeah, I feel like housing would be difficult No, let's just but let it was an island it can be an island again Because climate change isn't real so we don't need to worry about it. It's very optimistic. Yeah There we go, I would rather send them to molokai get them on that leper colony That'd be fine with me because you can't send no one goes there anymore You can't send them to prison

They're just going to teach other people how to make fucking bombs when I lived in hawaii It was always so weird to me that there's two islands you can't go to there's molokai You can't go because it used to be a leper colony, right? And then you can't go to lanai because it's entirely owned by dole What? Yep. One of them just owns an island of hawaii. Yep. They just it's all fruit. That's not okay. It's all fruit. Yep I don't know if or maybe that's okay. Maybe we should have islands that are just fruit I don't know. I don't know if that's a hundred percent accurate But that was what like the understanding was growing up there. It's like no one goes to lanai. You can't go there

Don't buy dole Anyway, yeah, very weird. So all that is to say I kind of wanted to talk about that stuff even though it's not it's relevant to this episode but not a hundred percent Alex doesn't talk about things that are real world damaging to him He does predictively prepare people for

These narratives that are going to be dangerous to him or real world events that he knows are coming That he can't avoid he could avoid that thing with the oath keeper guy. This one. He can't avoid No, he knows that the guy that he is the biggest fan of is acting in such a way that it jeopardizes the safety of journalists And in order to protect himself from the inevitable outcome of this he has to create the false flag narrative. So The issue is that it's not just this It's not just about saying that these bombs are fake There's something much deeper at hand here and this is why everyone needs to be very worried But when we do the second hour, i'm going to play mike adams predicting it all i'm predicting it all but understand

Here's the big emergency These are only probing attacks to shut it up and attest the public. Will they buy that soros and hillary and bill and obama and cnr Poor victims This is introducing them as the targets. They can whine and moan and predict if trump doesn't stop. You're gonna get us all killed and then Enrolls that big-ass truck bomb into cnn center, atlanta boom All the execs will be off on a special meeting that day most of cn crew would have never expected they'll get hit

They'll even take out a large group of their top people. Yeah, they're getting ready to hit themselves to hit themselves hard msnbc abc They're gonna hit themselves So it's exactly what you said alex is articulating exactly what you said about the idea of now If something does happen That will be what you know, it doesn't matter like he's saying that they're gonna blow up a cnn which If that does happen alex now is ready to be like who cares

It's not real. It's all fake. Who gives a shit. This is the globalists So now all terrorism is on the table man fucking time. I say there's no bottom I still think there is one and there really isn't no there really isn't there's nowhere else for them to go But lower than whatever you think the floor is alex is gonna keep going down He's essentially convinced or seduced all of the right-wing media To his way of being which is to normalize white violence and white terrorism To the point now where we have an entire political party and their propaganda organs that are in service of Man, if any white guys do anything, it's fake

Yeah, so Yeah, i'm starting to think that the election was about economic issues dammit. Oh, yeah, anxieties economic anxieties Yeah, I think it was the the midwestern folks just felt like they were left behind it's hard to It's hard to say what the motivations were but we can certainly see the effects and I don't know. I don't want people. I don't want to leave people feeling like a We're about to see a giant bombing because alex. No because alex has been wrong about so many things in the past So I don't I don't I don't think I don't think that anybody should take him saying that to be

Like evidence that it's gonna happen But I would say that alex thinks it's gonna happen You can clearly see that from that clip. He thinks that Shit, this is gonna escalate and he knows that because he he knows what his fans are like That's why he runs away from them on the street. That's why he's He knows He doesn't he doesn't want to go into the trump rally because there's too many trump people in there Yeah, he knows that that's why he yells at a piece of shit and calls it beta outside instead of actually

Engaging and being a part of the thing that he's created He knows he knows that there are dangerous people on that side and statistics back that up And that that there's no reason why he would he would make that prediction and say it's going to be a false flag If he didn't have some reason to believe this is probably gonna happen and we need damage control. Yeah Well, I don't think I don't know Does anybody think that this is where it stops? No, of course not but Nobody thinks that 10 bombs that don't go off or

Where it ends and especially like I know that we're recording this here on thursday evening Yeah, christ, we're gonna wake up tomorrow and there's gonna be another fucking bomb Probably and at press time we can have the the perspective of like no one's been caught Um, but someone will I mean eventually this case will be solved. It's a sloppy situation. Like the the I'm sure this isn't a criminal mastermind that we're dealing with. I'm sure there are fingerprints somewhere And this investigation is going to happen. It's going to like more facts will come out and we'll be able to discuss them more accurately as that happens but At the same time if you're the person who did it and you see an entire political party working their ass off in order to present it

As if you weren't doing the thing that you did I don't know what other message that sends to would be bombers. Yeah, it sends a message of a if you do this We're going to bat for you Even if you don't get caught we're gonna do our best to make sure that people think it was this shadowy cabal of definitely not jews So, I mean the the world that we're entering is super fucked up and dangerous if we don't step up And the media doesn't step up. I I know Some people are doing a good job about it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying everybody sucks But people need to step up and talk about it in these terms. They're normalizing terrorism

Yep, it's not a situation of hey, what's this quirky false flag hashtag that's going around It's not that it is this is intentionally or not the right wing seeking to normalize and make okay White terrorism now granted. I'm saying that with no idea if the person who's doing this is white We don't know anything about it. It doesn't matter though Because if the person is white because they're defending it as though the person was well There's that but the reasons that I'm putting that piece into the equation is because Look at the mo and past history of the people who are doing this who are like in the media There are people like alex jones like tucker carlson like lou dobs like russia limbaugh

These are people who have made careers out of justifying white crimes and minimizing the effect on their victims These are the people who I mean tucker carlson did fine for himself on crossfire But he wasn't making nearly the amount of money He is now being just a lap dog who is justifying white supremacy on a nightly basis So like I'm saying that they're doing this in an effort to normalize white terrorism Because of the people in the media who are doing it their behavior is in line with Past instances of white terrorism. Yeah, not necessarily that the Perpetrator once they're caught is white right. I just needed to make that clear

Lest it seem like I'm saying that right when I accept there's an entire world out there of possibilities of who this person or persons are And it's it's I just imagine like we don't get the opportunity to imagine this because Alex does not have a writer's room or a plan. No, I already told you it's deeply scripted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah But I imagine being in that like production meeting before tucker carlson show And there are a bunch of producers in there all talking about what it is we should say And the consensus was there even anybody who was like Maybe we're not

Doing this. Maybe we shouldn't say it's a false plan. I mean it goes back to like what we're talking about employees at fox news Like I I'm not saying that I'm not saying that's unimaginably cruel I'm not saying that they all suck and they're all awful or anything like that But I find it difficult to imagine people there who haven't Haven't quit already. It's hard for me to imagine that right there. I don't know that's true But it's very hard to imagine there's a graphic designer who worked on the the pop-ups the on the chai run on the on the whole thing Like there is somebody doing that shit tucker carlson doesn't record his show live like alex does on a smaller scale Production meeting on a smaller scale though too alex does has a have a staff

Yeah, and the people who would have maybe been like I don't know about this by natural selection. They're gone Yeah already like You know jacari jackson didn't like the trend of things that were going on and he quit Yeah, I don't know look the the I don't know man. I'm not I'm not trying to be too Fatalistic or too like hey everyone freak out But like if we are not more careful about how we allow stories to be told how we allow The media to behave and I'm not saying like let's put stringent rules on the media But like people who are writing these stories people who are writing the headlines of these articles need to be

Essentially more careful. They need to be more aware of what's actually going on and what the intention and effect of this right-wing propaganda is It's incredibly difficult and I do not I am not in any way jealous of their position. I couldn't do it So I'm not saying I'm not wagging the finger uh like I could do your job or anything like that I couldn't but I also didn't go get a journalism degree So you guys put yourself in this position Because you studied journalism and now we've made a career out of being journalists So we the public trust you to know how to do journalism

And we trust you to adapt to the times that we're in and not fall into the traps of these right-wing propagandists That will lead us all down the road to hell where any attack on anybody on the left is seen as fake Because that's where we're going Without I think that's where we are Well, it'll be much worse. Yeah soon. But that that's where we're going if we don't get the help we need and I say we I don't mean the left. I mean people Because it's easy for it to swing the other way too. And I don't think we want that Anyway, sorry, this is a bummer

Hopefully there will hopefully That's fair. Can we just boo boo Terrorism boo. I thought you were booing me. No, I'm not booing you. It might be dessert But I look I don't have anything I don't have anything to take the sting off this at all or anything at all But hopefully there won't be any more bombs and next week the show will be more fun Dan everyone listens to this show expecting optimism about the future We have put together a long track record of being very positive about the direction we're going and

respecting everybody's uh, right to an opinion and uh, What else welcome to everything is good looking on the bright side pot I am uh, dany frieze over here. We're gonna jb and dany frieze on happy good times. Everything's all right. Welcome to knowledge hug Yeah So I don't know it sucks, but next week. Hopefully it'll be better. Anyway, uh, we have a website Knowledgefight.com we do you can find us on twitter at knowledge underscore fight. That's right. We're on facebook We are on facebook. We have a small group Uh getting bigger call go home and tell your mother bro. Yeah, that's right. We're also on itunes. We will check that out subscribe

Please tell your friends review all that good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and then yeah, look dude socks socks I will tell you this uh, I it's really really good It's a really positive thing that the bomber didn't kill anybody I know that it's how I ended the last one when there was only one bomb in play It's now that there's like 10 plus. Yeah, it's great that no one's yet didn't kill anybody and I'll tell you what? Alex didn't bomb anybody either. No, that's true. No, I'll tell you what he did though. What's that? He probably technically killed a guy Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding

So Alex I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you