Knowledge Fight - #229: Mars Germans and Moon Leases

Episode Date: November 14, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan take a break from talking about Alex Jones to check in with the wacky world of Project Camelot, to learn about some high class Space Weirdos. On this installment, the gents meet two men who claim to have spent 20 years each working in space. Their stories are interesting, but their revelations about space laws are game changers.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan when was the last time you went to a museum a museum? I believe the last time might have been over it is an aquarium count. No, that's no an aquarium It's a fish museum fish museum. I went to shed aquarium not too long ago I went to that big museum downtown maybe like three years ago or so which the Chicago features a surprising number of

Museums. Oh the Field Museum. Yeah, I went they went there because they had like a free day or something Yeah, my brother was in town. Did you touch something a real depressed to be what because there was a whole big display about the Extinctions that have happened over the years. Oh, yeah, we're in one. Yeah Kind of bum me out a little bit like hey, thanks museum Did they have like a shit out of me? Did they have like a next door where you walk in and it's like and humans in 23 years will be gone The end of the the whole thing was kind of implying that yeah There was like a real like are we going to be a part of this one? Yeah, great

Yeah, what was the I think the there was a recent report on biodiversity that said even if climate change doesn't kill us the fact That we're destroying all of the species of the world means we're inevitably going to be dying Alex Jones would tell you that any biodiversity assessment is really just code for eugenics about how they want to kill off all the humans And I know that because I know a lot about Never been smooth. Oh, that's a miracle. You don't know anything. I don't know anything about Alex and that's the show guys today It's wacky Wednesday So it is time for us to take a pay-a-visit to the wacky wacky world of the secret space program Oh my god, I need a wacky Wednesday

We have our end game coverage coming not end game Sorry, the Obama deception coverage coming up next week and that is a whole lot of Alex So we want to give you guys a little break a little reprieve From talking about Alex Jones to talk about the wonderful world of project Camelot where Carrie Cassidy our intrepid Investigative reporter sits down with space weirdos and asks them pointed questions about their time in space Yeah, it's a perfect show format. It really is it's it's pretty great until you get a racist pleiadia Yeah, then he gets into trouble then it gets into trouble then it's a little ill advised But before we get going on today's show, I'd like to take a little moment to say

Thank you to somebody who has joined up with the team and has donated to the show, which we very much appreciate So I'd like to say thank you so much to Molly wobbles. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk Thank you. Thank you very much Molly So if you would like to support the show what we do you can go to our website click that little button That says support the show over on knowledge fight calm. We would appreciate it and that's that indeed you can yes, and we would That's true. It's Molly Molly wobble. Is it one word or two? It's Molly wobble. So it's it's not it's not Molly It's Molly wobble. Yeah, that's both Said the whole thing. I don't generally use people's last names

If people want me to use their last name, so I'm using I use the default of maybe a last initial sometimes right right right Privacy, I think people would prefer you left their names out of it and just Said their addresses or just came up with fun nicknames for everybody So no one knows who I'm actually right or social security numbers Identify people great nickname my social security number is my So Jordan today what we've got is an episode where the title of it is Secret space program recruits. Okay, so we got multiple Okay, all right. All right

So Carrie Cassidy sits down with a couple of dudes one guy's name is Jason Rice and the other guy I believe is Tony Rodriguez. All right There are two gentlemen who have been a part of the secret space program and may or may not be super soldiers Okay. All right, so that's very exciting. It also sounds like they could be the lead actors in a reboot of chips That's all I'm saying Poncho rally. Yeah, Tony Rodriguez It's possible, but here is an out-of-context drop from today's show, and I know you have said you're a You sort of started out as an Illuminati sex slave

Tough way to start out If that were true, yeah, that would be the wrong reaction I would say that's a tough like entry-level position. You know like yeah Well, I started out as an Illuminati sex slave now. I'm gonna count. I worked my way up The American dream is possible for anyone. Yes, so that was in reference to Tony Tony and Jason have different stories. They weren't in space together or anything like that, right? Right, but there are overlaps to their story Which is why they're on together and I believe that they met each other through some internet forum

And have become friends or something like that. That's nice. Sure. That's nice. I'm for you. I'll use a friend I'm I'm all about friendship. So here is Carrie Cassidy beginning the interview and starting it out Hi, everyone. I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I I carry today with two very interesting individuals and we're going to be talking about the secret space program Mars the moon and These experiences that these guys have been having In their past and I'm not sure whether they're it's ongoing or not. So we're going to find that out So we're just calling them secret space program recruits

Kind of for a lack of another kind of designation And they will both sort of share their titles, etc. Why don't you have a designation? Um, I don't know But isn't Alec to against a SSPR inhibitors SSRI and Come on, I think he thinks they're hallucinogen class They are I think that these people might be suffering from some hallucinations to be perfectly honest maybe a little bit So I feel like in the years that Carrie Cassidy has been doing this She should have a designation for these people like whatever level they're on she shouldn't just randomly be like We're gonna fucking call them recruits who knows I mean you could call them non-commissioned officers wouldn't that count sure they're

Contractors that's nice. I like that. I'm not entirely sure but here is the gentleman coming in chiming in saying hello So you can get used to their their relative voices So I'd like to welcome Jason Rice and Tony Rodriguez and I'm gonna switch the screen over To them here and just bear with me if we do have some bandwidth issues So we have two guys on at once and sometimes that can be an issue. All right, so go ahead I'm got real quick. That's important to consider. Is it an issue remember that as things go I feel like that means it's gonna come back into play. Hello to the audience Well, certainly, yeah, hello everybody, thank you for having me on the show today, Kerry

I certainly appreciate the opportunity. This is Jason. Yeah, hi everybody It's good to be here and it's great to be on meet you Kerry for the first time and I'm glad to do this It's my first time really with Jason live. We've been in contact with each other through Gaia for a while now So it's a it's good. I'm still learning about his story. I'm happy to be here. What continue Guy I believe I believe that's the internet message board that they oh, okay Look It is entirely possible that there is a sentient over Spirit that guides them to each other. We got hooked up together by the personification of Mother Earth and we've been friends ever since

All right, man. You talk to a tree Ah rise home theory Dan, I would say that this interview is Probably like it starts out real hot and then it Disappoints for a bit and then gets all right Oh, it's an interesting experience listening to it because someone like Eddie Page or Mark Richards Whenever we have those people and it's kind of like the hits just keep coming. Oh, yeah This is ridiculous. This is ridiculous. They're fast. That's what they are They're just going for the lowest common denominator. Yeah. Yeah, and you can hear from Jason Rice's voice already

He's kind of like a drab dull no-nonsense kind of he has a real boring voice Yeah, that's what I'm saying, right? So he's not coming in with like a lot of the entertainment value that you would hope from a space weirdo So that's tough. But like I said which supports his argument that perhaps he's telling was telling the truth It's possible. They always go for boring people to be Illuminati sex slaves He wasn't the Illuminati sex. That's that's Tony But I told you this starts out hot and here is the where Carrie starts reading their bios And I was like this is so promising

So it looks like at age to Jason befriended a human appearing visitor named Stean or Stein how do you say? Stine or Stean? Stean I was to observe and learn about Earth's cultures and people this friendship marked a pivotal time He's also a lawyer, which is He explained why he was an escaped artist and those that have listened to each other Also

This doesn't come back up at all It never comes back up at all that he befriended Stean at the age of two doesn't know that doesn't come back up And secondly, it doesn't come back up that that is why he is an escape artist No idea what that means. That's why he's an escape artist I would have loved to know so much more about him being the Houdini of secret space programs But it goes on Jimmy church His show we will have heard some of that story. I'm sure of course and ultimately He got involved in a military my lab

Situation and he was in identified as an intuitive empath, of course Enrolled in experimental behavior studies. That's what you do with them in 1977 and I guess in 1986 is the end of a seven plus year my lab training 1977 this this guy would have been under ten years old in 1977 So just consider that you get him young break in regime And most of his time in active duty Pertains to a program

that he was involved in and I and I gonna kind of skim through this quickly and We'll just jump over that's a little rude Okay, so Tony he just she just jumps over to Tony now. I'm like hey, hey carry this guy was friends with an alien Like what in her world that he's friend. Oh, you're just friends with an alien sure I know a guy with a telescope Dan. He works at a bus station. I guess that is kind of blasé It's du regour Wait, wait, hold on, you know one alien, right? I know cocktail parties full of aliens It's

Let's see he says he's 46 years of married father and I love first of all hold on the phrasing of that is amazing wait He's for you don't understand. There's a whole he is. He's 46 years. It's his child 46 Is it what does it start from when he got married? Is he 46 years old? That's the problem with the language, but no, he's 46 years old. Okay, so he's 46 years old married Father so that she couldn't have come up with a worse way to know that's at the most confusing possible way to say something That's very simple to say. Yeah, and From a name I can't pronounce Michigan

Calls himself a working-class man. No, it's pronounced Michigan normal is kind of a question mark there. Let's see I Was involved he calls himself a human I think you're calling yourself sort of a slave or a sex slave Involved with satanic worshiping and hell. Yeah, I am being used in this way I'm assuming this wasn't your with your permission that we're gonna that wouldn't be a slave then Well, yeah, Dan Dan we need to start getting into the Dom sub relationships fair that exists That'll be part of our Obama

We're gonna find that out and Later sold off to secret space programs where he served on Mars for a short time as a support server I'm as a support soldier for the matter waiter. Wait, you go directly from sex slave to soldier And that's that's involved in the series Colony Corp where he lived for over a decade And was working on German ships as a repairman and eventually in cargo engineer on interstellar trade missions See now part of his story is that they are able to digitally train people, you know, like in like in the Matrix, so all of this stuff about like he doesn't have the qualifications to do that It's taken care of by like I just downloaded kung-fu not an issue for me main issue

So wait, he just Like the people the Illuminati right who owned him right as a sex slave We'll learn a little bit more about that They just gave up his papers like they they sold him off They I don't think I have this clip because it was in a particularly boring stretch of the show But I believe the tone as Tony explains that they were drugging their sex slaves and stuff like that Oh, they changed to do a different drug to drug them sure he was allergic to that drug So they sold him off. I believe that that is how he explained. I'm gonna be honest

That is the most reasonable explanation I have ever heard on Project Kamala, are you kidding me? He's allergic to their sex drug. You can't use him anymore Tony's not terrible at war games like he is pretty decent that like all right. That's plausible. All right Also cuts through any of this conspiracy bullshit. It's not like oh, I was not I mean it doesn't but I mean in terms of this one Exact moment. Yeah, I'm just like pure like no, I didn't have to fight off anybody. I didn't have to Make an argument for my freedom. I wasn't saved by anybody. I was allergic to this new drug So right what I got kicked off the study, you know, sorry. Yeah bummer It it's like they gave me a nice recommendation

Whatever I became a soldier that if you're already in for a penny that'll help you get in for a pound. Yeah, basically That's that's the sort of answer. It's like I tip my cap to you. You have decent job. He's allergic. Yeah You're a decent storyteller Tony So in this next clip Oh, one of the other reasons that that also matches up that idea of like he got sold to the the secret space program Yeah, yeah, is you can hear it there that he worked on the Mars Colony Corporation Yeah, and then ended up in the Cirrus Colony Corporation And that's because people like him at his side of Kerry Cassidy's whistleblower team

They're very big into the idea that these are corporate entities. These are like businesses. Yeah in space like an alien Sure. Yeah, yeah, the corporation that owns the yeah, yeah, it always goes back to a movie It always goes back to a movie. There's something that he's the dreams of men Dan sure science fiction is just the dreams of men William Shakespeare There's something he's going to say later that I don't think is from a movie that fucking I listen to this Twice and missed it both times and I'm so glad that I ended up finding it because he says something that I think is the pinnacle of Ludacris, okay, but we'll get there as we get there for now We have to find out how did Tony end up getting into this whole situation because I don't think you sign up to be an illuminati sex slave

I think that that's a situation probably where it's You're not you're not thrilled with the the situation wouldn't it be funny if it was actually Steen who sold him It and then they don't know and he but Tony or but totally possible Rice knew this the whole time and he's becoming his friend is kind of a way to like make up for the Corporation that and he's keeping tabs on him too. Oh, this is entirely possible But in this clip we find out that it was absolutely not something that he found on I don't know zip recruiter Something like that. Hey, hey, they do not advertise with us Dan

I also don't think that if they did they would like me implying that illuminati sex slave openings might be posted Why wouldn't you though? Well, I didn't go through I Wasn't groomed for the space program. I was I was kind of more of a victim of it Like in the early years I had made somebody mad that had access to it and they put me in that in that program The score and back or whatever however you want to call whatever we call it nowadays And he where I was taken at night and did 20 years and put back and during that time

I was a slave so it was done as a punishment to me. It wasn't because I was the best man for the job So my my particular situation is much different than other people you've heard in that regard But why me and Jason are working together is what I've found is that you know, since I've done my first I've done over 40 interviews now and since the first ones with dr. Salah people have reached out to me and most people don't remember as much and people that remember quite a bit Don't want to talk about it. What I've found is that the absolute best therapy is to speak to other people that experience it and me and Jason have been able to do that I

Can respect that a little I love the last part. I'm not a big fan of the first part right right Well, so he made somebody who had access to the secret space program angry Yeah, one time well, and then spent the next 20 years of sex life It's also kind of important to consider that he's 46 years old and he will later say that this happened in 1982 So he was married for 46 years on top of that You would have to have been 10 years old when this happened So he pissed off someone in the secret space program when he was 10 and his punishment He was taken off the world for 20 years and then put back into his body the exact moment that he was taken from oh

Oh, that's his that's all of their thing. I thought he was physically taken good No, this is all this is all in his head or no, this is all metaphysical No, it actually happened, but he got put back Who cares? It's the same thing with We'll get into it It's the same thing with when we heard that interview with Randy Kramer He had the same situation where he got taken and then right right right. I got that one I believe his version of it was that he got cloned or something like that

They made a younger clone to put back into Who cares it's all nonsense and what will I trust you? I promise please don't trust me I promise you that how dare you say that this will come back everything will come back So now we got to learn a little bit more for a steam steam doesn't come back nor does escape artist It should so we learn here more about Jason and in this clip It's only a minute long, but he drops a couple of bombshell pieces of information The carry does not follow up on until later in the interview The the name of the program that I was a part of was called career return and

Essentially was earth providing 24,000 approximately 24,000 ground forces For use by the Mars German breakaway civilization Mars German what Mars German initially? What it was going to be used for border patrol What that what it was what it amounted to was a false flag operation in which we were helping Mars German Defend their planet. There weren't enough of us to fight for them. So our mission was to help train help them build up their defenses help them to

Create their are you being so boring about that? you just said Mars German false flag attack and That the 20 years that I spent in that program I made it up through the rank-up major So they always they're always 20. Yeah, it's all but both of them are 20 years now It's a nice round number. I first of all Mars German is something that should set off alarm That should be the first thing that you think I believe that we will learn by the time This is over that we have Nazis in space and that is unfortunate

Certainly, I don't want to be the one to bring you that news dude I already assumed that I take no pleasure in reporting that there are Nazis in space and they're very much in play Yeah, but the other part is the only thing worse than a regular nazi is a space nazi dan when I hear that clip I can't not think about the iraq war. You know. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely I feel like that is entirely a poetic way of describing what happened with iraq Because if you want to talk about false flags and things like that everyone not everyone But a lot of people believe that 9-11 was done as a false flag in order to Precipitate involvement in iraq to get Saddam Hussein out of power that that sort of thing

So you take that piece that's there Him being like we weren't there to fight. We were there to try and train these These martians or aliens in order to figure out border border control We were out there winning the hearts and minds of the martian nazis and we were trying to make it so iraq could protect itself That's all I hear is a thinly veiled metaphor for our failed foreign policy over the last Or war policy over the last decade. Yeah And and we don't need the the 9-11 false flag the regular lies that were told to get us into iraq are should be like more than enough for you for everybody to be like

Hey, that's evil awful shit. They lie. They literally lied on purpose And we're dying like did you hear that george w bush got a fucking medal? I saw that he just got a fucking medal dan Look, I'm not gonna say anything other than that man should be prosecuted for war crimes Send him to the haig but at the very least he shouldn't get a medal right right that seems like the reverse Yeah, the the bare minimum is don't give him any medals It's like if you set a building on fire and then you put out the fire and you get an award for putting out the fire It's very weird. Yeah, you don't even successfully put out the fire My metaphor doesn't you set a fire and then we're like, oh

Next guy's problem and then we got a medal for the fire. Very weird. Yeah Um, so in this next clip we hear that jason himself. Uh, he already hinted at this He was there for 20 years over in space uh working with the space germans And of course he gets back just minutes after he left And you went up through the ranks and how many years do you consider yourself having served in the secret space program? um, my term of service in iDARF was iDARF just

Does iDARF eat cats too iDARF stands for like Interplanetary defense and readiness forces. I believe is what iDARF stands for but yeah, that's Secret space program can do better Can do better than iDARF Oh, man Okay, but in real time Were you gone for like, you know, three hours or were you gone for, you know, longer period of time?

How did how does that work in earth years? Um, it worked out that the amount of equal time Was 20 years and two months But my reinsertion back to the initial departure point happened within a couple of hours of my receiving my change of orders why

Okay, so Well, the why a couple of hours because that can be explained by a night's sleep or something like that A couple hours is very easy for you to be like that's the amount of time that I wasn't here No one would have noticed if it was overnight But someone would fucking notice if you were gone for 20 years and then came back This is important because I know but why if you can do it in a couple of if you can do it within a couple of hours Why can't you do it within 20 minutes or instantly? That makes no sense. Why a couple hours totally? You're preaching to the fucking quiet

I I empathize with your complaints. I'm furious. I don't have an answer for that, but there must be a secret space reason I don't know There's got to be some sort of like, you know what they still have to do the paperwork on earth or something like that To do the paper. I don't know. I don't know Instantaneous, I understand maybe because then there could be some sort of a time paradox where two of you exist in the same place I suppose I suppose who knows anyway It always is the same with these people because they need there to be like, oh, there's proof But it's no there's no proof. You know, that's sort of thing like oh, yeah

I was gone for a couple hours. You can ask my parents like no great No, no, and it's not even the reverse where it's like a like in contact where it's like Oh, she was gone for no time at all. But then you have 24 hours of The static on the screen or whatever it is like they don't they don't even have that It's just like it was a couple hours. No, there's nothing and in this next clip We get like is another attempt on Jason's part to imply that there was hard evidence But there's not really hard evidence anymore the enhancements that we received were

Nanite driven and course all of those nanites were cleaned from my system All of the evidence that I had during the time were gone So any of the when you say nanites, uh, just sorry, but you say nanites you're talking about nano Nanotechnology, okay Right now So I doubt that it's actually cleared out of your system completely because we've all got it, but yeah You have a iDAR provided

We're cleaned out. So any of the other iDAR enhancements were those others present in the atmosphere. There's a short course. There's a chance that uh, we're breathing every day So he had nanotechnology super soldier enhancements that were put into his body But they flushed them all out of his system once he left so that we can't prove that one either When what when did they flush them all of it out of his body right before they put him back a couple hours after he left Oh, okay. So he was physically disappeared I thought because I thought with uh with our our other boy. Yeah, he was like A mentally taken away. I don't think so. I think that was another physical

Abduction I think all of them I don't know man. They play fast and loose with details. I can't really look I don't know what iDAR's policy is on this in terms of like physical kidnapping or just taking someone's consciousness I'm not sure. Yeah, but it's my it's my Um, interpretation that they're talking about physically their bodies going so they like grabbed him abducted him Put him in a spaceship right send him to mars to fight space nazis right to train space nazis work with space nazis No, no the space nazis were higher up in the chain of command than him right Okay, they aren't even the ones who you're training or helping at all. They're you're working for space nazis. Gotcha

moon germans Mars germans, excuse me So the the the thing that is I understand it is they physically take the person away And then they serve for 20 years But then whoops, it's a problem because now you're 30 fucking years old can't put you back in your bunk bed Right, so what they do is they take the consciousness Out of the person and put it in a 10 year old clone of the the person and then put that back In the bed. All right, but also here is but also but also they take the consciousness but have to repress the memories

If you can transfer consciousness you could wipe memories Yeah, yeah like to the point where you would never remember these things also that technology is like There is no reason for them to not improve it to the point where these people can't remember further more Number one point of order. All right. This is a shadowy group of interstellar traveling space nazis that can handle all kinds of shit that are abducting children And spending and sending them to act as their slaves or soldiers respectively um

You just kill them You wouldn't spend all of your time and money like rebuilding them and putting them back into a different body You just disappear up because it's part of the iDARF contract Is it part of the iDARF contract? I feel like that's not legally binding. You're totally right. They would just disappear you Yeah, because people disappear. Yeah, you know like like regularly if you were a child I mean, it's very sad, but it does happen that kids disappear from their homes in the middle of the night Whether it's running away from home or you know, it wasn't it wasn't elizabeth smart taken from her house. Yeah Maybe most often by most often by somebody you know, right

Or the secret space program or in freak instances like someone breaks in through your window or something like that You know like that does happen. So like let's say Uh jason rice, uh, you know in the middle of the night the secret space program takes them up to mars to be a Major or something Yeah, why would they bring him back? It makes no sense. It would the moral high ground It wouldn't cause any waves. They're enslaving him. They have no moral high ground exactly There's a fundamental problem with the way these moon nazis do business. They are polite

Dan, all right If you're gonna steal somebody abduct them and put them to work put them to work for you for 20 years It is an implicit agreement that politeness dictates you bring them back There's some to the campfire. Yeah, leave it better than when you found it Sure, except for get rid of all those nanites first for also also true of the campfire But if they took his consciousness and put it in a 10 year old clone body They wouldn't have the nanites in there in the body. Right. So if you're just like displacing the consciousness back This makes no sense

I guess what they would say I don't think I believe these guys I guess what they would say in that case then is like it's not that they put the consciousness in a clone They age regrets you What they have a magic machine that makes you a 10 year old again What are you doing wasting it on slaves and soldiers? I don't know man. These space nazis Very weird. They they they have a lot of Contradicting positions on things. So we jump away from jason for a little bit. Yeah back to tony Here a little bit of the the person who is actually interesting to hear speak

He has a little bit more Verve in him, let's say And man, this is like he's got everything going on in this next clip. He is he did everything Basically, it was a 20 year term that I was taken and in the beginning I wasn't The very beginning wasn't a sex slave service seems I was privately owned Um, and I went through a program a CIA remote viewing program where we were Classified as clones and trained to do what?

Psychic work like an intuitive work and I ended up living in porto to want to see you'll prove and Oh, that's nice. I was a psychic that they were drugging and they could put me under and I was um being used as a security measure for an airplane that shipped cocaine From porto to one in suio to santa marta colombia. Hold on what? I was like 1200 miles. Okay Could you could you give me all of the details on that? He was a psychic involved in a ron contra Yeah, that's what i'm saying. I would like all of the details there. Carrie does not ask any questions She doesn't ask any questions about that. I don't believe so. What?

So he was taken and trained in remote viewing for the CIA. Yes, which makes sense And classified as a clone which I don't understand and was being drugged Sure Was he a clone? Maybe I don't know how could you know you would never especially not if they if he was him And he knew that clones existed and he was being drugged during aisle this time And he was classified as a clone wouldn't you have to then suspect that you yourself are the clone of a real person?

Who died or was it seems to me or may still be out there? It seems to me that he is certain that clones exist. Yeah, so that part check that box Otherwise, why would you classify people as clones? Well, he has a theory here at the end of this clone. Okay Call yourself. Uh, just wait one second. Sorry. You called yourself a clone. Was that purposeful or is that a misunderstanding? Well, I think it was a misunderstanding But the doctors that worked on me how could you know on the earth? That pulled me through that program, which I've traced back through project grill flame with the cia Uh considered me a clone. So I don't know if they were told that so that they they were disconnected from us

But Where I was cloned and there was a consciousness transfer, which The more I look at it adds up from what I went through. I think yeah, I think you know Adds up 20 years and putting them back. There's more than one technology that can do it I think there's many different technologies and certainly the et's have different technologies and do the same thing Of course, uh, I don't think there's one technology No, they don't know the et's have plenty. We've got a few so but you get earth doctors confirmed it Do you get a sense there that tony like just the same as earlier?

He's got a good answer like the idea if I was allergic to a medication So they sold me off that all right cool, dude And then there again, he he's like, you know, I was classified as a clone But it was probably so they dehumanized me like I like that feel like Loved that explanation understanding. I'm not really a clone But they did that so the doctors wouldn't feel like they were fucking right. I loved it I love that explanation as to why I am once again on his side. It's good enough. It adds up. It's good enough So also here in this next clip this is just because you know

You want to hear it from the the horse's mouth as it were He also was only gone from earth for a couple minutes Were you taken off planet for a few hours that amounted to 20 years or how would you clap? You know kind of the same night. I was taken at night after we went to bed. I had a We had the ufo experience I had grazed and reptiles in my bedroom that carried me off and they put me back the very same night and I woke up And had breakfast with my family the next morning. This is the plot of where the wild things are Okay, okay interesting. And what year was that that you lived those 20 years in?

It was I In my original interviews it was the school year of 81 So I thought 81 but the more I look back on it It was it was around april of 82 that I was taken So he would have been 10 he would have been in fourth grade that based on his age It's a fucking liar. This is the original interviews. He said it's 81 now. It's 82. I understand I don't trust him now. That part's fine with me Because I look back on my life and I was if I'm trying to pinpoint something

There's a little bit of like I might I might be a little bit wrong about some dates, you know I think that's normal. I suppose especially if you're maybe a clone That is a good point now I can't argue with that. Although at the same time it seems like a massively traumatic event like being Kidnapped by aliens would kind of cement the date in your mind. Now, jordan. Here's another issue He's a fucking trained remote viewer. He should be able to put his brain into the past and see exactly when that happened That'd be too painful for him. I understand. I don't want to I don't want to ask him to open up old Yeah, come on man. He goes back and he just sees himself sleeping

Oh Wait, so then how am I able to do the remote viewing thing if that part was a lie? Well, that part's true That part has to be true. It's just a natural remote viewer Uh, but yeah, he goes back to sees himself. Uh, having a vivid dream and that's like, oh, the rest of my life Is just going to be a response to this fucking dream or something. It's not a dream Yeah, because here in this next clip tony explains. Uh, what precipitated he's coming out and talking about being a secret soldier super soldier When I came back I had no memory of the 20 years and I had my memories back of my life

So it certainly seems logical that I was taking my whatever my spark of life consciousness was taken out of one And put it into another blank slated body and then Put back and so that way those years weren't remembered. So and again after the 20 years You know, I always had brief memories But after the 20 right after the 20 year mark right after, um, you know 2000 Then I had an MRI done and that's what triggered the memories Also at that same time was when I discovered randy kramer's first interviews that explained about 20 years and how they could do

Time dilation and put people back in the same night and I and that's when it all came And I was in denial of everything I had remembered. I was in complete denial When could I have had time to stand and look out the window of the starship over the planet series? And look at look down when could I have done that? I I had chronological memory of my whole entire life Maybe when you're asleep Who has the time though? Yeah, at the end of the day at the end of the day Who has the time to like stand out on the bridge of a spaceship and stare into the black abyss? Come on But like you hear there man

He had all this stuff that came to him and he's like, oh it all makes sense now that I've heard randy kramer Tell the exact same story on project camelot. This is like this is a clone. Yeah My my second generational Super soldier stories my favorite phrase in all of project camelot is it certainly seems logical That's my favorite one. That's my favorite one. It certainly seems logical that uh, They removed my consciousness and put it into a younger body. Now the only conclusion I could come to That shit crazy Now occum's razor dictates that the most complicated explanation is always true

Yeah, it's a little it's a little much. It's actually called macos razor. Right, right. Yeah Um, so in this next clip we we've learned a little bit more about mars germans And man, I know we've already talked about it, but it is bad Festidious it is that is that the worst thing that you can say about mars germans. They're very clean It's bad news efficient. It's bad news my man that they are nazis in space. That is not good for anybody So you were dealing with germans the same as jason was dealing with germans The series colony was a german breakaway colony It's a german breakaway colony and you knew they were german because why they spoke german or what german there were everywhere you were every every

Where you went there was an eagle with a different symbol under it Whoa, there was the rounded swastika in some places and there were other symbols in other words nazis Yes Okay, did they have the nazi after the was the society ran was it run in in essence by Column fascists, uh, was this a fascist colony on series? Yes, it was a military. It was ran by the military But they were german military Yes, and they reported to the antarctica

Uh, the what the high command hold up series ran series and had absolute power there But they reported to the high command on antarctica. Yes, I believe that the high command on antarctica reported to Reptilians around jupiter. I believe that's so antarctica has nazis now too. What about, uh, phobos What about demos? I'm not familiar with any operations out phobos. Okay. That's too bad. Um, got you So a couple things I want to say really quick on our last episode about project camelot when we were listening to her music Uh, there is that line of like all

Planets are yours except europa and we were all like what the fuck is she talking about? It turns out that that's a reference to Uh, 2010 the the sequel to 2001 a space odyssey. Yeah, I didn't realize that. Oh, okay That's why I immediately referenced the space baby. Oh, I just I didn't that all went over my head I completely thought that she was saying something about like her information not like gotcha gotcha gotcha So someone corrected that on our facebook group and I appreciate that. I felt I felt a little stupid But I've never seen 2010 a space odyssey. Not many people have yeah, who cares? So, um, the other thing there is I want to know what's going on on phobos. We never find out How do we not find out? I don't know. Carrie doesn't have time

So what we do know is that cirrus is run by mars He has not he has not proven to me that they are german They speak german and have nazi regalia. Yeah Do you know who else I would describe? Doing that like 10 percent of america right now Spiritually, yes, but most of them can't speak german. That's true. Most of them are unilingual Um, the the thing is that you know, they're run by mars germans

They're in cirrus who report to antarctica, which means that this guy believes in hollow earth because that's that's the Lynch pin to so much hollow earth stuff is that there are underground nazis You're going inside antarctica. Yeah, now. I remember that whole thing from one of our other project came a lot There's like new berlin inside the center of the earth and that's where the fourth rike is formed Of course like that. So he believes in hollow earth, but also apparently this is news to me the antarctica nazis report to Reptilians outside of jupiter, which is exciting He also says that he's never seen a reptilian So that's a problem, but that is an event that they're in the mix. Okay, which I now that I respect way more than if he was like

Yeah, I saw one once Yeah, yeah, it is It's difficult for me, but it is it's not the answer you would expect from an outright con person Exactly that makes me think that he's dealing with some stuff. Yeah, he's yeah Yeah, no metaphorically describing like Vivid hallucinations or dreams he's had stuff like that either that like this sounds to me like there's some sort of Trauma that he is dealing with somewhere. You know what I'm saying? And it doesn't have to be anything I I can't speculate as to what it is, but it seems like this it's possible this story is like not a

Not a lie. Not I'm trying to get something out of somebody. This is one of our classic project came a lot episodes where it's like Something went down Maybe and I'm reacting to it. I think that that's entirely possible The reason I'm still comfortable talking about it is like we're not making fun of that And also I'm not convinced that necessarily that is the case because he's not really like there's a lack of emotion behind it There's not like he doesn't seem like really troubled by any of this stuff And I think it's equally likely that he saw a bunch of movies that maybe he was too young to see when he was a kid Gave him some vivid dreams. He had some sort of like really serious dreams

Maybe he got into drugs a little bit later in life Had some like maybe had a bad trip or something like that He read the book a few dare call it a conspiracy Sure Any of these things are possible that would plant the seeds for him later to hear randy kramer's interview and be like that explains everything Yeah, create this mythology about himself dating back to when he was 10 and uh, you know went off planet for 20 years It's entirely I mean all that stuff is possible I'm not convinced like when we hear when you hear stuff like the guy in vietnam who is fighting beetle beings who right?

That's ptsd. He's right. Right. That's a different animal than this. Oh, absolutely. This to me is still like we're we're cool on this I suppose I suppose I I suppose I went too far in saying trauma So much as I mean more like inciting events. No, it's but but drama is possible. Yeah. No, I'm not ruling out trauma Yeah, I don't think you're unfair to suggest that that is a possibility But we have no idea of knowing any anything beyond that right So it just I still I still feel okay laughing about this. Yeah. No, I'm way it it still feels Far more real his responses are because in between all of the crazy I think he's a clever guy like I think the the sense that I get from listening to this is like

He's someone who actually asks like what's the problem with this idea? Yeah, what would someone's critique of my? My narrative be and you're like, oh, well, I was allergic to that medication. That's why I you know went over it every day Yeah, so I wonder I would like to know what other medications. He is allergic I would like a detailed medical history Sure before I will believe any of this nonsense about being allergic to a sex slave drug I want you to submit yourself to an allergy panel. Let's see if you got yeah, what happens if I throw a peanut at you How do you feel about spiders? Let's just start there your allergic spiders. What about spider leadership? I was hanging out with the spider leadership, but I couldn't stop sneezing

That's why I got fired from so many other jobs True true all these damn spiders that look like humans spiders So stealing our jobs at the borders. So Jordan He Tony was deeply involved in a command and control structure where the Mars Germans were in play Yeah, well, it surprised you it won't to learn that Jason also had run-ins with the the space Germans They are fucking everywhere and he has the fucking funniest take on this Okay, it's his his explanation for their speaking German is so funny

How did you know they were Germans and did they speak German German? Uh, yes, that's a great question. I knew there were Germans because the other Officers that I first encountered that were from Mars, Germany Um, they indicated and self Self-identified themselves as such Perfect nougat speaking the German language was something that was reserved among the leadership of the Mars German military If any of the earth

Soldiers knew how to speak German and that was Uh turned off if you will what they reserved that language specifically so that they had a means to communicate Among their own citizens without others being able to determine what it was that they were saying Now here's the problem with that German is a pretty easy language to learn It's really not hard and especially if you come from a Germanic language Like ours it's something you can pick up fairly easily Uh, especially like if you're not 10 when they take you up into space Like there's a decent chance. Maybe you took German in high school

There's something like that if you are these soldiers that are up there We'd not all of them were taken out of their beds at 10. That would be you would hope not that would be prohibitive That would be a bad strategy for them. It would be tough. Yeah So considerably some of these people would just have to know German. Maybe they come from a german family You know any of these entirely possible. Yeah, so that would be and it's like I said, it's super easy to pick up Like languages that are very closely connected to english Now what they could do is a space language You know what and see now that I think is I think that's unreasonable. Fuck you

I think that I think a space language is unreasonable That flies in the face of what I know about human beings in the way that we create community space Yeah, but they're they're mars germans. They hold a strong nationalistic perspective. Should they be nazis? Sure So what would mean more to them than? Maintaining a connection to the the Vaterland. I see that is being fine Now what I would suggest and they're nazis, so they love excluding excluding people. That's true It would be almost impossible to stop people from learning German

But it would be very tough that being said like, you know, you can invent a language like they tried to do that with esperanto I mean, there's there's what like a pigeon speak and that kind of stuff That many people use I used to speak pigeon back when I was when I lived in hawaii Did you yeah, I don't remember any of it now But I used to be able to understand people and that's the one that's like a giddy-piggity It's wild stuff. Yeah, that one. I can't remember much of it, but I have very Much like these guys have memories of space I have memories of being like a 10 year old boy and like speaking pigeon Germans teaching you pigeon

Space Germans teaching me space I would say that if your plan is to make it so that there's a language that no one else can understand There's a very easy way to do that. Make your own fucking language. Don't use German Now the connection to the germany is that is a good point. Right. I take that as a good point Thank you However, I do think that it undermines their goal of using german because like I said, it's too easy See, I don't I I didn't get that they were there. I didn't get that they were doing it for

No, no, no, I mean I didn't get that they were doing it as anything other than like an exclusive Thing where only the only the officers are allowed to communicate in german Not because they don't want other people to understand so much But because it it gives them a sense of class He said that if you learn german or if you know german it gets they turned it off They turn it off. I don't know what that means. They gotta switch. They turn off the babble fish. Yeah, exactly Oh, that's that's rude. Um, yeah, I'm not I'm not positive. What's going on with that turning off thing But no, he very specifically says there that it's an idea like so they can talk and you won't understand what they're saying

Oh fair. So for that like there's fucking words That we've taken from german like if someone's talking in german, you'll be like, uh, hold on. What was that? Do you see a waffle? What's going on here? Hold on. There's plenty of them. Is there a cognate somewhere around here? Yeah, there's so many of those Um, so that's a bad plan on the part of the mars germans. They don't respect their planning on that, uh, and but whatever I don't I don't believe any of this is true. So that's I'm telling you I'm telling you the nazis tend to overreach Sooner or later, you're gonna find a situation where they just think their authority goes too far and then they fuck it up This might be where they played the role of icarus and flew too close to the linguistic son

Um by getting further away from it And going to mars and the moon. Yeah. Um, so in this next clip, uh Jason talks about his time up there and he says some things that are like, oh man, this is so close to alex jones Now you claim that you were going, uh off planet off out Interstellar going to other civilizations and you called it a false flag and i'm not sure why you're calling it false flags Me neither went as a part of an expeditionary force that would be uh going and in essence It sort of sounds like colonizing

Other planets giving offering our services as a military colonizing is offering services This may be an issue with white people But are you there's some deceptive layer in there? It sounds like if you're using the word false flag You're trying to say that we weren't really fighting for them You know let colonizing people's do Well, the those that were pulling the strings the the draco were also responsible for the organization and the invasion creating the hybrids

to create the circumstance where We were invited in to help Because that way they create the problem and the solution at the same time They get their foot in the door and they're able to franchise these you know This control mechanism out to other planets space globalists god damn the space globalist what he's describing

And i'm sitting here just like spit it out rice Get it out of your goddamn mouth. No kidding. Yeah, he's describing exactly what alex says the globalists do to third world country Yep, this is exactly the same uh sort of storyline But now we have it's it's like third world planets like warcraft becoming starcraft. Yeah playing the same game But now there's moons. Yeah, it's just the same thing. This is all just anti globalist rhetoric Yeah, pretty much wild. Yeah, this is so stupid I it makes sense that there's such a consistency in this because it does tap into one of those big fears

Uh, especially among white people, which is like They're gonna do it to us, you know, like look at all the colonize the all the colonializing that Or all the colonizing that we did and how we did exactly what That we're blaming these fictional people of doing right because there's that there's that underlying fear of like Oh, we've got it coming You know, we just have to fight really hard to make sure it doesn't happen Even though we deserve it 100 but at no point in any of Either of these guys telling of it. Do we on earth run any kind of risk from these space nazis? That's true

There's even there's sort of an implied cooperation between our secret space program and the mars germans So like go along to get along dad. It which whatever I am just fascinated by how almost no matter what where you go these disparate places You think that they're talking about different things But you scratch underneath the surface a little bit and you find the exact same ideology being promoted So you see this guy who's trying to talk about his time being a super soldier on uh, Mars or whatever and he's just saying the same things With different adjectives that alex jones is saying you look at jim baker and you think he's a christian preacher

Right, you know, you just see the same republican Um, outright talking points about the the migrant caravan and stuff like that You just like all of these worlds are so blended together with just different clothing on yeah They're doing the same thing which is the sort of rhetoric that leads towards The fascist uprising. Yeah, it seems it seems like the reason that makes sense that that happens though Is because they all hang out in like the same corner of the internet where it's like Uh, each of these were individual and then somebody had an interest in both Christianity and

Alex jones and so they kind of cross pollinated into different message boards and people just kept going from each place to each place That's true But also what they do is like all of these three worlds beyond them being like based in con the con at job You know beyond that what they do their primary purpose like kary cassidy She's been doing this for years and hasn't found shit out about space Kind of amazing. She still doesn't know a goddamn dick about space. Yeah, yeah Then with alex jones, he's been going 20 something years on the radio hasn't proven one thing about the globalists He hasn't had any victories against the globalists except what he pretends about the 2016 election, right?

You know, so you got jim baker. He's not he hasn't achieved anything except selling his stupid buckets, right? But what they do behind the scenes and their actual effect on society is to so distrust Of like mainstream sources. They what they do is they try and put a sliver into your brain A kernel into your brain of a distrust of a shared reality What they do is they try and Force you not force you but they try and encourage you To use their worldview to see the world as opposed to the reality that we all share And by doing that you weaken the ability of society to work as a cohesive unit. So what they are is they're really actually super

Super like profoundly damaging Um influences on the world, right and they're playing the same game just from different angles It's fascinating to me that all these people should really I mean you can't take them to prison for this But like we should we we I don't know what you do, but they they need to be they need to have some sort of consequence Yeah, their behavior absolutely unless you can prove anything you say Like if Kerry Cassidy came to me tomorrow with a reptilian and it was like hey, Dan. This is my friend glee or but I'd be like I want to meet stein. I'll be like, I'll be I'll be goddamn Kerry How about you high five we're gonna move on we'll do another wacky wednesday episode where I'm like, hey guys

We've met a globalist. Yeah Now mark richards is still a murderer, but there are aliens and they're in play Maybe we should believe some of the stuff she's saying I I also think prove anything Well, I I also think that it makes perfect sense that the these worlds dovetail into the right wing because as The right wing has found objective reality to be their main enemy So they get they get pulled in poorly in reality. Yeah, exactly. So they have to create exactly But some of that I think I don't know it's sort of a chicken and the egg thing

It's difficult to say whether or not the right wing picked up that strategy from You know these sorts of communities and seeing the success that they have with indoctrinating people or if it's um I think it's more of a feedback loop, you know, they just keep pinging it back and forth to each other And it only gets stronger as it goes along, you know It's no surprise that we see the fervent Radicalism in the conspiracy theory community being echoed by the fervent radicalism in the right wing Because they just keep pinging back and forth on each other. Right, right. They take each other down You know, they pull each other down further

I don't know if we're gonna come to any large truth I don't know if we I don't know if we're doing anything other than just saying things strongly without any backing up on it Well, I think it's important to like when these things come up to trace these lines between these worlds I think that that that's something that needs to be brought up because right it it's important They're all working to undermine shared reality and like That's fine. If the shared reality is evil and wrong But if it's not then you are

That's my point. Yeah. So anyway, but bringing that point up to people who believe that their reality is right Only makes them angrier. Well, that's why I don't talk to them. Yeah, exactly, right? It's why I tell them to hit the bricks. Yeah, get out of here. You need to be more like Nancy Pelosi, Dan We need to reach across the aisle. No, that's what we got to do. So in this next clip I told you that there was a clip that I found that I had missed when I was going over the episode originally I'm still glad I found Is this made me laugh so fucking hard. I need you to put your mic down for this This is Jason explaining how it all got started. Okay

And this all right. I'm in this explanation is unlike anything. I've ever heard on project camelot. It is lunacy The the dracos were behind the scenes pulling the strings because the original formation of idar goes back to The mars germans getting out of their original moon base lease In order to In order to get out of that lease they had to do a couple of things They had to provide some some troops to the draco for use square and when they needed them Which was what the idar fleets were And they also had to find another tenant

That other tenant that they found where the was the cabal for the rest of earth's ssp programs They're the ones who took over the mars germans original moon base So jordan if I know you followed that because of your laughter It turns out this was a sublease situation That broke bad. It was a sublease Okay, all right, how long was the original lease for forever

So yeah, it has to be otherwise. Why would you give why would you be willing to give up troops? No, see that is not a standard part of a lease. No finding a new tenant that i'm fine with that i'm fine with Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. If you how are we ever gonna find a new tenant on the moon? Dude That would make renting real weird if every time you needed to get out of your lease You had to bring troops into it right right on the off chance that the uh, the landlord needs group Also, I love the idea of like i'm i'm looking i'm looking for a new place. I'm on pad mapper I'm checking out what's going on around chicago. What's this moon base?

I'm in Wait, it's furnished. You do have to sign an infinite lease though and join iDARF Can we change that acronym? I don't know if I could do that That's awesome. I love that Give it it's it's contract law. So we're we're flying through space. We're living on the moon. We're not mars germans are Germans are working with the draco. You bet leasing the moon from them the draco are behind the scenes Is it the whole moon or is it just some part of the moon? It's just the moon base the big moon base that the mars germans had on that for just a moon base

But at that point I guess they would have been moon germans. I'm not entirely sure All right, how that works or maybe they're mars germans who are on the moon. I don't know. Anyway Oh, also another really funny part about this is like, uh, uh, Tony says that he's been to the moon Or like going by and seeing it and stuff like that and so kerry brings up the stuff that the guy with the telescope Who works at the bus station told okay? All right, there's just like do you see any buildings on the moon? He's like, nope Because of course the base that they're talking about is underground. So oh, it's an underground base, of course. Oh, okay, obviously You sound foolish

How could you not assume it's underground? What do you mean? How could I not assume it's underground? All bets are off if everybody would see it Everything's on the table the guy with a telescope who works at a bus station would see it if it was above ground Yeah, but if the draco are involved they can probably uh, they can probably Camouflage it in some way or it's on the moon. Maybe it just looks like the moon sure any of these things are possible So it's a lease That's why who wrote that contract. I want to know who signed it in the first place. Where's the courts? Yeah, exactly Ridiculous

It's a lease. That's how the sequence program got into the into the space I am taking you to civil court unless you give me troops and a new tenant So crazy We want to get out of this moon this moon base, but we have to find somebody. Let's get the globalist. You could just go into space There's no word. What are they? What are they gonna do? Hey? Hey if you break this lease, we're gonna murder everybody Why do you want to get out of the lease? Oh, I mean, have you ever been to the moon? It's draft. It's not that good They got sick of putting plastic up on the windows

Look, I have survived in a lot of bad apartments in Chicago You gotta if you're putting plastic up on the way to maybe start looking for a new place It's a little bit drafting. I don't know. I always put a plastic on the windows. That's that's my steeze Um, I don't know man. I think that if you were uh, you know moon Germans, you might want to keep a foothold on the moon So it doesn't imply that they went they can't afford it But would it imply that they that's why they had to get out of the lease. They went to another moon base. Is that possible? They were trying to they went to a more affordable moon base a little bit down the way They went from a one bedroom to a studio

basically This this made me so happy when I heard that I was like, how the fuck did I miss that? Oh, it's because Jason's voice is so Fucking yeah, exactly, right? It's a lease issue. So let me explain how this whole thing started. All right, so It turns out. Yeah, the original Germans. They were not yet moon earth Germans They were on their way to becoming moon uh, moon Germans right not yet though, right could not read drago So they just trusted these drago Oh to to write up this lease for them and they're like, hey, listen, you guys seem cool We're german nazis. Uh-huh. Let's do this if there's one thing I learned from the midterm elections

It's that there isn't rent control in most places. No, that's true. The moon doesn't have Rent control. So they're probably boosting that rent up. You know, like, oh, absolutely. What are they paying? And with what what's the currency? Do they use chase quick pay? Do do do do do drago's. No, we know that they like to feast on humans. So they probably pay them with blood Oh, well, then why give them troops? Is it monthly? This is right monthly. What are months like on the moon? What are drago months on the moon? Well, we could find out what moon months are sure that's that's reasonable We can't find out what drago months are drago's don't use the gregorian calendar

Exactly. So what's their schedule allegedly from this interview? They're based in jupiter. That's where the head command that's So their months are infinite That might be why rent so high. Yeah, that could be why rent is so long Maybe the issue is they Were trying to avoid paying rent at all. Sure. Have you considered that possible? So they sign they sign a doesn't apply a contract Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely. So they sign a a year lease sure right, but they don't understand how long jupiter works Right, right. How long jupiter how long the orbit of jupiter is right? What what length of time is going on, right? So they're like, oh shit. We won't have to pay this for 10 20

30 years, right then everyone high fives everybody's doing great They realized they didn't save enough money to pay for the rent. So they're in a crunch, right? Finally, they're like, okay, we'll break the lease. We'll give you iDARF And then we'll get the ssp in here because if there's one thing I know about space nazis They love Fooling americans that that is that's just true. Take great joy take pride in it So apparently a jupiter year is 11.8 earth years. Okay, so it's not that much longer Right, so it would be like a year is a month more or less a little less than that. But yeah, so

I can see this. I don't know man The other thing that really tickles me is the idea like because there has to be a contract if there's a piece There's a contract. Yeah, what responsibilities do the draco have for upkeep? Like oh, that's a good question. Do they have to come fix the door or whatever? I hope so. Don't worry, it's faulty. Is there code? Is there like building codes on the moon? What kind of regulation? Is there a regulatory environment for is there a? renters bill of rights on the moon, right? I want to know all about who do they get to mediate in some kind of dispute like this

You can't have a draco mediator. It clearly can't have a space nazi mediator clearly. It doesn't come up because they were able to reach Rapparoshmont when they gave some troops. Yeah, they should have they should have got all to move in They should have had a few attorneys on hand. I bet they could have got a better deal This is my favorite thing ever and it pisses me off the carry doesn't ask a follow-up question because this Is like excuse space lease what hey carry do your whole show on this Because this means like I understand the idea that there's like You know

War-based space law sure like I understand like you can't bomb some other civilization or something like that I'm willing to go with you that far, but there's so those conventions There's civil law in space. Uh-huh. He's crazy to me and carry needs to dig into that Come on pissed off. She didn't what kind of what kind of universe doesn't exist without civil law. Are there space elections? Oh, that's a good question. They're like I think that's assuming that uh They're all tiered. I mean, I yeah You're you're you're tossing out a lot of

Democratic ideals that can't be applied to interstellar travel. Anyway, no matter what Mark Richards has ever brought to our lives Whether it's raptors love chocolate and they'll kill a baby for it any of that stuff nothing to me tops space lease space leaves that's The best fucking thing I've ever heard from one of these space Oh my god, give me a tnt show with a an attorney who litigates civil space law And I will watch the shit out of that. I'm just a small country phobos lawyer

I don't know. I don't know about your big moon codes How you guys have a thriving entertainment district here on the moon Yeah, it would be great. Uh your honor, uh, we would like to Oh, no, there's chocolate in the courtroom Great God damn it. I love it so much So that has to do with space law And it turns out the tony has some other things he wants to bring up about space law that I find

preposterous But this made me oh god this this The space lease there's nothing that will ever be better than that because it's such a boring Live. Yeah. Yeah, it's so great. I love jason rice if only for that But here tony comes in with some other weird space laws that he might have been involved in breaking So can't have diary in the pool even in space was doing something illegal. What illegal thing were were they doing for example? We routinely stole cargo from other colonies within the space pirates He thinks he's Han Solo. He thinks he's a space pirate

And they there were combat actions that happened There was there's a law that says between the solar system in our solar system That all the colonies are not allowed to attack each other that there's a there's some sort of treaty about that And that was in the case there were times when when there were we would steal and There's a lot, you know, I wasn't really prepared to think through every every infraction, but oh do you regret it? There was a lot that they did wrong. There was bootleg things from earth That's one of the one of the hardest things that researchers have had with my testimony is that we used to listen to earth music That we used to do

Cargo runs to diego garcia is where we picked up military hardware or any kind of military cargo We went to diego garcia in the middle of the night And only a few personnel handful of personnel knew we were there And we would take cargo on and one of the officers gave a music player to a girl in communication A music player Music You know and nobody believes us because that's a huge no-no That's not why take anything from earth

But there were guys in the main cargo bay that were getting books and movies from earth. What's wrong? I don't understand. What's wrong? What about hooch? There's a law against it. There's a law against it. There are um, are the media from earth as I guess Mind control signals in it and as a result We were only we were only able to listen to one song at a time like at the end of the day On the way back to the base we would listen to one song And they only went on for what song they started fighting over what song what kind of music to play So the captain nixed it, but it did happen

It's been the hardest thing for the real the real hardcore researchers to to believe from my from my testimony Because it's so illegal. It's an illegal thing to do out there Okay, well, I I I think that's interesting that you think that now So Interesting phrasing interesting that you think that I think it's interesting that you think that kerry. Do you have a book of space laws? I am really sorry if I uh, if you feel that way about something I said Earth music is illegal in space. Yeah, because it has mind control messages in it Of course, but they could listen to one song

Which I'm guessing is eastbounded down if they're on eastbounded down. Well, he says that they're on like cargo runs or something like that That's absolutely be less or either that or cw mccall convoy. Yeah going a great big convoy. This is a rubber duck Yeah, why not? Absolutely you're listening to it. You're listening to you're listening to something from the era of trucking songs I got I got way worse. I went all the way back into prohibition era gangs like they're they're Bringing space hooch across uh stellar lines or whatever it is. If you wanted to really guilt the lily, that's what he would have said Yeah, yeah, um, I see we're bringing this american music to y'all if I were him what I would have done it What I would have chosen is uh rush I would have played you would have chosen rush. Yeah, the 2112 overture because that's like 20 minutes long or something like that

It is a long song and it's like four songs in one man. Wow beat those space laws on a technicality Is that how that works? Listen to prog rock up in space. How much how perfect is prog rock in space? Hmm. That's a good. That's a good point. We are the priests of the tampons I see rinks as you're driving around in space now. I would want to go with something with a Spacey time signature. I would want to go with like a take five I would want to go with some dave brew back in there get a five four maybe get a seven four Let's see how it goes space age bachelor I would go with

Honestly, what I would end up doing is probably trying to annoy and piss off the people I'm in space with So I would you I would choose like the duke of url Stop saying duke them damn stop it Oh Space lease. Oh man, I've got a new space lease on life now dad I Love that there's there is like real estate law in space. Yep. Can't bootleg. It is amazing. It seems like a repressive It's amazing how mundane their space lives are their space lives are so mundane, but so restricted

Oh, yeah, isn't the music you can't have books no movies But or that does imply that there's space music There's like mars music that the mars germans make right doesn't have mind control messages in it. By the way, yes, it does They're fucking nazis If their technology exists, they're the ones using it. It's actually all husker do that's all husker do in uh, mars germany space vagner I adjust like No, the right choice is that uh, every you all you can listen to in space

Is every cover of the spake zahra thruster Also sprach zahra thruster. Yeah Now i'm gonna go with the many covers of that Also done over the years. Shit. What's the what's the metal band with a very meticulous timing dream theater? Oh, go with dream theater. Yeah, it's kind of like metal prog. Yeah, exactly. You're back on prog rock. I'm back on prog rock Maybe some jethro toll. Ah, I can't do jethro flute can't do jethro tell now I don't think anybody they stole a grammy dan can't allow that. I don't think anybody who's listening knows who this is But there's a comedian named jason earl folks

Uh, and if you know him go watch some videos of jethro toll because he looks almost exactly like young eon anderson And it freaks me though. Fuck out. It's like, why is jason earl folks running around with a flute? The fuck is going on? I think the bigger question though is why isn't jason earl folks running around with a flute? I would be i would be eon anderson every fucking halloween if i were him for sure I'll just go around. I would learn how to play the flute. I would be screaming aqualong at people Just not even the song just aqualong. No, I just see anybody like hey aqualong Really annoying people turns out that's sort of what i'm but I it does seem kind of like what you're into. It's like a trend Yeah, I wonder why especially when it comes to music wonder why I do a podcast about alex jones

High tolerance. Anyway, there's a lot of space laws. Yes, and that's an interesting thing to find out Here we get to our last clip. We need space tort reform. That's what I think I would love to run For space office. Yeah, I think that the what i'm hearing here is an untenable system of space regulation I want to be the populist of space Come in and be like we're deregulating the entire real estate market. We are deregulating music laws Freedom of speech the first amendment for space. All right. I wouldn't start with deregulating real estate Dan, I don't know if you've they don't heard about they don't know about that

I don't know if you've heard about the history of deregulating real estate law They don't know about that up there. We'll get super rich off this and oh what's gonna happen The economy of mars is gonna collapse. What do we give a shit? Here's what i'm doing Here's what i'm saying. I want to nominate zephyr teach out as space attorney general honestly that name It fits it right see that's what i'm saying. She should have been space attorney general the whole time Not to take anything away. We need a real progressive voice Advocating for renters rights sure in space. Absolutely. So we reach our last clip here and uh tragedy befalls the broadcast

Oh, no, um after kary asks them to just hey, why don't you guys freestyle for a little bit? Tell me anything that we might have missed Trouble strikes. Oh, no, um is just for you know, you know five or ten minutes or whatever Whatever you'd like to cover if you think we haven't dealt with it Sure. Well, kary first thing i'm reading the chat here and it looks like we're not online Okay No apologies to my audience don't know what happened. Oh, no this thing was recording looking like it was recording. Um I'm it's a mystery as to what happened so Stop the broadcast and we're gonna have to invite you guys back

Maybe you can come back next week or as soon as you have time And let's do it again If you don't mind Uh, it'd be my pleasure. All right. Thank you really appreciate it No idea what the hell is going on. You said it at the beginning of the broadcast. What's going on? We can talk about some things that are pretty far out there. So I think uh having some technology High strangeness is part for the course There's a real good chance even the way he said that was so boring like he is implying that there's some sort of

High strangeness. Yeah. Yeah, there's some sort of means alien interference. Yeah, exactly, right? Yeah, he's saying that the dracos or moon nazis have uh, Yeah, we are being interfered with by aliens. Anyways, I guess we'll see you next week. Here is my Uh, awkums razor answer for what happened. Yeah kary was super distracted by the idea of having two people on skype simultaneously and forgot to hit fucking record That's what happened Yeah She put like a thing at the beginning of the episode where she's trying to make it seem nefarious that the video didn't record

But she has the audio of it. Uh, you fucking just forgot. Oh, so this is all audio I thought you I thought you had still found this anyways like maybe it wasn't streaming No, no, no, she found the uh, she had recorded the audio But the video she was recording through uh, youtube She was streaming it live on youtube and recording it that way not through like the way we do it through recording software So she clearly has a bad process that she follows and she look she's done a lot of shows Sure, but that doesn't mean that she didn't forget to hit record once it happens We've done a couple shows where it's we've lost a couple shows

And those are not usually instances of me not hitting record that would be crazy and very few of those times We have been too drunk to record none There there have been a couple of instances where I had like almost no space remaining on my computer Because I just didn't know how to erase temporary files. Yeah. Yeah, that was it. That was an interesting day for us So we end up with like five minutes of an episode recorded and the rest is mute, you know It's like, yeah, you know, technical issues do happen Especially when you're kind of dumb like me or Carrie. She just fucking forgot to hit record

Or you just have a fucking lot of shit going on man. Mm-hmm. Look, she's trying a lot going on exactly She's trying to record right. She's trying to stream. She's thinking about a second album She's she well, look she's hasn't announced anything yet. No, let's thinking about let's not let's not you know, okay I'm thinking about it. I'm hoping for it. Um, Look, here's the deal. What's the deal? This episode is ridiculous. I am suddenly wondering about my lease I know I have a handshake agreement. I need a lease to protect myself From situations like this, right? What if it turns out your girlfriend? What if it turns out she's a draco?

It's possible. Then there's no way to get out of the lease. She has weirdly colored hair Signature of the tree. Oh, that's true. Oh, yeah She has killed a man for chocolate before too. That is true. So she might be a raptor. Yeah entirely possible Um, I will say that uh, yeah, look dude, this is just like I know I'm deep at work in the obama deception stuff And it's really hard to peel myself away from it at all. But this but when you get a space lease, this is so like I'm not gonna say that it recharged my batteries because that would be deeply dishonest. No, no, no But man, I needed something like that. Yeah, something like fucking weirdos talking about space germans and leases

This is like a this is like a break for tea. Yeah, this is like a french lunch that lasts two hours This is nice. It's almost that much better that the episode ends with like, I forgot. Oh, we forgot to record It's common Somebody needed to have she should have added it. I know she wouldn't have liked it, but she should have added the Uh, price is right Or just like a slide whistle Um, yeah, so congratulations Congratulations, kerry. You have proved everything and uh, man, it's just I have such a weird relationship with project camelot

Now like I always feel like we've plumbed the depths with like eddie page and i'm surprised that we're still doing I Legitimately thought that project camelot was gonna be like, oh, we're gonna do a couple of fun episodes Maybe if mark richards shows up again, we'll do another one of those But I I legit thought we were kind of done with it In the same way that we're kind of done with jim baker. You're it's like we don't need to go back I I I felt largely emotionally done with it. I was like, what are we ever going to learn that's like more than This these people like no, it turns out every now and again

You'll just fuck around and there'll be a guy who works at a bus station with a telescope or two guys who disappeared for 20 years into space Illuminati sex slaves and majors in the secret space program who only exist in space because of a lease dispute Right crazy. This is so great. Like this is God, I love it. I love it of all the of all of the project camelots Everybody seems like they have always been trying to outdo themselves like with mark richard not this time Not these guys these guys are like trying to make it as grounded It is possible more more tony than jason. Yeah jason is absolute I mean, he's the one who came in with he came in with space lease. So like he's still on that tip. Yeah, it's

Yeah, I love it. It's the You know, like how do the space plebes live, you know, we've we've had mark richards. He's uh, he's flying around solving problems Got an ai But how does just like a regular sex slave joe live dan to be that's what I want to be fair sex slave Tony elevated himself to become basically han solo. That's like he has his own heroic arc That is that is mixed in there. So yeah, he's not he's not a space plebe Neither none of these like he's like a he's like a He's like a sex worker in the old west who eventually owns her own brothel

Every single motherfucker who comes on here who's in space is the equivalent of someone who's like in a past life I was cleopatra. Oh, yeah, exactly. It none of them were like I was in space It sucked. Yeah, even this guy was enslaved and there's still a heroic arc to his story Like that no one's just like man. I had a rough go of it. I was just like shoveling shit Like three hots and a cot. Yeah, basically Yeah present on spit. It's which is statistically what you are going to be if their story is true. Yes. Yeah, exactly Yeah, because they're all making it up and there's so like there's ego behind it Right, but yeah, the difference here with this which is why it's so refreshing is that like groundedness

There is like the the minutiae of modern life and just day to day life that is now being mirrored in space Yeah, which is great because it's like what like really good improvisers do they don't go for jokes Right, they don't go for like big grand uh, like broad characters They go for like the quirks of stuff that you understand and you relate to Humor is in specificity. I have a lease. Exactly. I fucking understand what that's all about. Yeah, yeah, absolutely So anyway, congratulations Jason Rice and Tony also congratulations to the space germans for getting out of that lease That was tough to do. I'm proud of you guys. Yeah. Yeah, that took a lot of a lot of doing. Yeah Congratulations to the uh, the drako for being so understanding about the

I do not think they were understanding at all. They could have said no, they could have said fuck you You get a new person in here. I don't give a shit. You're stuck in that lease Yeah, but when I when I lived it like when my house burned down uh years back, uh, we had some terrible landlords And uh, our apartment was completely destroyed. So like it was condemned by the fire department Yeah, like you can't live here So they let us out of the lease and that was the case with a number of people who lived in the building How many troops did you have to give them though? Oh like 35? It's crazy. All right But there were a bunch of other

Units in the building that weren't that damaged but had extensive like smoke damage or water damage for when the Firefighters and they refused to fix it. Yep. Jesus. Well, no, they had to do some fixing of stuff But they refused to let the people out of the lease because the fire department didn't say you had to Jesus so they kept people stuck in their leases in Slightly destroyed apartments. It was horrible. Like I remember learning about that and thinking like that kind of behavior That's what I would expect out of the dracos is what I'm saying. Yeah, that sort of thing and congratulations that you didn't act like that You know what? That's that's that's very specious of you

Look, all I'm saying is maybe the draco as a species are better people than humans dude The draco run nazis in the hollow earth. They are not good They are very bad Very bad. How dare you? They're better landlords. You know what? You're you're on this creeping moral I'm on this creeping moral relativism thing Space nazis have a point the fuck out of here with that Hey, they're not on my backyard. Mr. Mr.

I have to deal with the regular nazis every day a day and I don't need to be getting involved in an interplanetary dispute See, that's that's the cowardice That's the cowardice. That's the cowardice. That's the cowardice that allows injustice elsewhere to exist To justice everywhere. Okay. All right. All right. Fine, dad Anyway I guess I'm saying let's not intervene in world war two. Is that what you're is that what you're arguing? Yeah, you're you might as well be an appeaser. You're an appeaser of space nazis. All right. All right. You're a draco You

So, um, that brings us to the end of this here, uh, yes space venture. Yeah, uh, thank you for project camp Thanks for like at least coming with something project Camelot. Yeah, you you helped us out of great. It's been a it's been uh My faith was flickering in the the world of space weirdos. Yeah, I'm glad to know that there's still something There's still gas in that tank. Oh, yeah That's great. Um, we have a website. We do have a website Knowledgefight.com. Uh, you can even access it from the moon. Mm-hmm As long as you smuggle in a computer Although Peru although internet isn't included in that lease. Oh, that's true. That's you have to get it. You have to get

What about heat you have to get Comcast? They have a space monopoly. Yeah, they do The service is shitty, but uh, and it drops out all the time But rcn isn't plugged into the uh, no space outlets. Uh, uh, and time warner isn't even allowed to operate in space No, not at all. Um, because of fucking never mind space regulation It's crazy. That's why we need to deregulate So I am running Um, so also we got uh coming up next week. We are not going to have an episode on friday

Yes, because uh, we will be recording on friday and I need to get all my ducks in a row as it were So we won't have time to put out an episode this friday But next week all week every day throughout the week We'll be new episodes of our exhaustive and extensive breakdown of alex jones' very stupid documentary the obama deception Oh, yeah, so thank you to all our donors who have supported us and put us in the Unenviable position. Yeah of uh doing that, but uh, thank you. Thank you all. Uh, you were getting what you want I like the way you put that. Yeah You said to do this. Hey, hey

We could have done a different documentary, but it was voted on in our facebook group go home and tell your mother Uh, you're brilliant. Well done. Your transitions are fucking tight tonight. Not bad. Absolutely very tired. Uh, you left out twitter though That's true. We're at knowledge underscore fight. Uh, and then we didn't have a poll on there. That's why I had to transition That is truly you can call us on twitter. We would appreciate it. Absolutely. We're on itunes. You can subscribe download Indeed, uh, leave a review all that good stuff. We would appreciate it. It helps. I want to tell you something jordan Um, because I don't believe it exists. What's that? Uh, I don't believe that mars germans have killed anybody in their career Even if they don't exist. I still kind of think they've killed a guy. Uh

There's space nazis dance. That's a fucking weird. They will find a way. That's a fucking weird line to drop because they don't exist Huh, this really scary thing that doesn't exist probably is still killed people I didn't even say it was scary again. Not bothering me. They're on mars. It's implied, I think It's like saying, uh, uh, uh, freddy kruger has killed people. I bet freddy kruger probably has. He doesn't exist. Okay Nor do goddamn mars germans. They haven't killed anybody by virtue of the fact that they don't exist. Stop I wasn't going to say anything. It was preemptive. I wasn't going to say anything But there is a guy who probably technically has killed a guy and that's alexander emmerich jones

Andy in kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you