Knowledge Fight - #230A: Obama Deception, Part 1

Episode Date: November 19, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan begin an adventure of breaking down Alex Jones' 2009 "documentary" The Obama Deception. In this installment, we get the lay of the land, meet some of the main players in the documentary, and find so many problems that this episode only covers the first 12 minutes of the film.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Indeed we are. Dan.

Hi, Jordan. Dan, what's the last documentary you watched? The last documentary I watched was The Obama Decision. Yeah, that's a loaded question, you ask. I mean, before that, I guess some documentary series on Netflix. Yeah. That criminal mastermind one or whatever. I don't remember that one.

Is that one about the guy who showed up at a bank with a bomb around his neck? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard of that. Yeah, that one was crazy. I think I watched the one where the Irish... The nun? Yeah. No, no, not the nun. The nun's a horror movie.

No, no, no. I mean, the one about the nun. The one about the nun. The sister, oh boy. Yeah, that shit was fucked up. Yeah, that was crazy. God damn it, Irish. Good work, Netflix, doing some decent stuff. I tried to watch that one about the staircase, the lady who fell down the staircase.

Couldn't do it. I watched two episodes and I'm like, there are so many more of these episodes. Couldn't do it. I can't do this. Nope, I was out. That's coming from me, a guy who has spent the last, oh, very long time watching The Obama Deception for this episode. Today, guys, this is very exciting.

I know a lot about Alex Jones. I don't know anything about Alex Jones. And we carry that into what we're here to do today. In the spirit of, you know, thanking our donors and the people who make this show possible, we have been tasked with breaking down the entirety of Alex Jones's 2009 documentary in heavy quotes, documentary, The Obama Deception. I like to think of this as the spiritual end of a season somewhat on our show. The last one we did was Endgame probably about six months ago or so.

Something along those lines. And now we've come to another sort of, I don't think there was anything groundbreaking that happened right before we did Endgame. But like, I feel like we're entering a new era of covering Alex Jones with us finding that clip from the 90s where he's talking about the leaderless resistance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's going to take my research into a whole different ballpark where I'm pretty convinced he's been interested in white supremacist groups for the entirety of his career.

I think that changes a lot for me. Maybe even in life. Maybe. So that changes a lot for me, especially the context in which I look at him. And so it's only fitting that we end this season with an exhaustive breakdown of one of his documentaries. And our listeners chose this. I wouldn't have chosen this.

I probably would have gone with- You've made your feelings clear on how you feel about The Obama Deception. I probably would have gone with something else. But I honor the wishes of the people who are so wonderful and support us. And so here we are. Have you ever seen The Obama Deception? Good God, no. What?

Why would I even consider seeing The Obama Deception? I don't know. He has a catchy title. Is that all? That is kind of all you need at the end of the day. Yeah, kind of. I don't know. I watched it when I was younger and smoked a lot of weed.

And I don't think I was convinced of anything better than we watched it. But we were like, oh, that's wild. I think that was probably my response to it. Is that the conclusion of all of your research today? Good God, no. Oh, that's wild. No. I spent a lot of my time when I was younger and stupider and smoked a lot of weed, watching

really long things on YouTube. It was kind of a habit of mine, like a little past time. And so, I mean, The Obama Deception was just one of many really stupid, long conspiracy videos that I watched and discarded out of hand. I didn't realize anything about it. And now, having gone through it, I realize that this documentary is wall-to-wall one of the stupidest things. Like, it's so much worse than Endgame.

Okay. Endgame was a nightmare. Endgame was awful. We talked about Endgame for nine hours when we did our last documentary coverage. And that was all about a fucking road. It was mostly about a road and then FEMA camps and a lot of that stuff. And I think there will probably come in maybe about the same on this. You think so?

But the experience of going over, and I don't want to complain up top or anything like that, but the experience of going over this and watching this documentary with a critical eye was brutal. Yeah. It sucked. And not because I love Obama or something like that. I'm so grateful for the setup of this show. Yeah.

All of the research that I had to do was none. You had to show up with a six-pack. That's what you had to do. Which I appreciate too. And do my best to avoid starting drinking it now at 11 o'clock in the morning or whatever it is. As is the tradition on our documentary coverage, we will try not to drink quick. Well, we might.

We'll probably fail. It depends on how awful the first 15 minutes in. That was the situation with the last documentary. I warned you. We are going to have to pause probably 20 times in the first minute. Okay. So get ready. Because this is a lot of bullshit.

All right. Are you ready to get going, George? Yeah. And also to all of the new listeners who are joining up with the team. Very weird timing, but thank you so much to Robert Evans. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Our episode came out last week, and we've seen a lot of influx of people checking us

out from there. We have a lot of episodes that aren't as very singularly focused as these ones will be. So if you'd like more of our regular show, please check out the back catalog, but also enjoy this. Yeah. My advice, start at the beginning, and then over the next six months you might catch up to where we are right now. We've made a lot of episodes, haven't we?

And don't binge too hard. Oh, yeah. No, no. Because even though, and I've heard this from listeners, and I agree, even though we're making fun of Alex and talking about what he's lying about and stuff like that, there's still a corrosive toxic effect of listening to tons of Alex Jones. Oh, for sure. And I wouldn't wish that on anybody who's not named me.

Hell, my psychic powers have been eroded beyond measure. Please be careful even with our show, which is probably not the best thing for me to say as someone who hopes for our show to succeed. We want to grow, and we want to be at the best possible place. But it is our strident position that you should not listen to this show. Too much. Now, run. Run now.

Don't even bother. So any final thoughts, Jordan, before we jump in here? Any wishes, any hopes? Dan, if this is the last time we see each other alive. Tell everybody they were decent. Good luck. Yeah. All right, here we go.

Let's begin. So we start with a shot of the inauguration. Yeah. The crowds at the National Mall. So much smaller those crowds than Trump's crowds, right? Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sea of people happy.

There's Michelle looking great. There's John Boehner hoping for his death. Contrary to the rumors that you've heard, I was not born in a manger. Dude, that is fucking great. And sent here to save the planet Earth. So this, I already got to stop because Alex is playing that clip as some sort of like means of being like he's full of himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Some sort of like, I am Superman. Yeah. I've come here to save the world, but he fails to recognize or point out in any way that this is a clip that was taken from Obama's appearance at the Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation dinner. That dinner is a traditional stop on the campaign trail where candidates from both parties give speeches and are encouraged to poke fun at each other and themselves. Since the dinner's founding in 1954, every candidate who would go on to win the election,

with the exception of Harry Truman and Bill Clinton, have appeared in given humorous speeches. It's a big ticket fundraiser and it's a high-end Catholic charity. And other than their clear discomfort with supporters of abortion, talking about Bill Clinton there, the foundation tries to keep the event non-political and convivial. Some of the other jokes Obama made that night. Quote, I feel right at home here because it's been said that I share the politics of Alfred E. Smith and the ears of Alfred E. Newman.

Good joke. Kills. Another one. Quote, Al Smith, I never knew your great-grandfather, but from everything Senator McCain has told me, the two of them had a great time together before prohibition. Boom, got him. This is like one of the old roasts where they're just fucking drunk telling terrible jokes at each other.

And Obama's delivery is amazing. Yeah, no, he's got a good delivery. I would recommend everybody go watch that entire speech because it is genuinely funny. Here's another one of the jokes. I mean, those jokes, you're not pulling hot fire, Dan. Here's another one of his jokes, which may be a little bit controversial nowadays. Quote, I have never put lipstick on a pig because that's something he was accused of before. I've never put lipstick on a pig or a dog or myself.

That's one for Rudy Giuliani. Who would have thought the cross-dressing mayor of New York would have a hard time winning the Republican nomination? Oh, shit! And he looks over at John McCain. That was a real tough primary you had there, John. All right, that's not bad. That's not bad.

I'll give him that one. Here's the last one of the jokes that I chose. Quote, some of the rumors out there are getting a bit crazy. Fox News actually accused me of having fathered two African American children in wedlock. Okay. All right. Anyway, Obama's speech at the Alfred Smith dinner was a masterpiece from my perspective and he took accusations that were thrown at him and commented on them with humor and grace.

By the time of the dinner on October 16th, 2008, the birther's conspiracies were already running wild. Jerome Corsi was already appearing all over Fox News to claim that the short form birth certificate that had been released was a fake. Alex opening his clip with this clip of Barack Obama clearly telling a joke about malicious accusations people who were associates of Alex were making should give you a sense of where this documentary is on a spiritual level. Even more, like, so he's playing that clip over Obama's inauguration. Right, people. And he's even got Obama giving his inaugural speech. Yeah. So I clearly what he's trying to do is make it look like Obama said this even at his inauguration.

And while that's going on, I'm like, I don't remember him being fucking hilarious at his inauguration speech. It's that term that Alex uses all the time. I'd say he's trying to anchor these ideas in your head. The idea of the inauguration and the idea of like, I'm Superman. I've come here to save the world. Right. And it's incongruous and it was clearly in a humorous speech. And even then, it makes sense as a joke.

It does. Like, even if you're trying to paint him as some sort of like, I'm so full of myself. I'm so full of myself. It's so deprecating. It's clearly hilarious. Yeah. And why did he leave in the laughter? I don't know about that.

He might not have edited this. Yeah. So that's on the editor. Anyway. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. So that's from a speech Obama gave on July 2, 2008 in Colorado Springs. And Alex deprives that quote of any context. Around that clip that he just played, Obama said, quote,

We're going to grow our foreign service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We know from listening to Alex's show in 2009 that he's trying to imply that Obama wants to create a civilian army that would patrol America as his jackbooted thugs. Of course. And he's trying to use this very selectively edited clip to demonstrate that. From knowing the sentence that came right before the one Alex used, however, you can clearly see that what he's talking about is not using military might as the sole avenue towards reaching our goals, but reestablishing a focus on diplomacy, which I would think Alex would be super into given his anti-foreign wars position. But oh well.

Let me just stress that through the entire speech, Obama keeps saying that service to others in the community are really important, that he intends to ask people to embrace service, not that he intends to force anyone to. So that's an important clarification. Here's what I am already predicting for this entire documentary. Me reading a lot. Well, yeah. We are 41 seconds in and you have paused it three times. No.

My prediction is that regardless of how evil he is trying to paint Obama and regardless of my feelings on Obama's presidency, which are at best mixed. Right. At best mixed. I am going to miss Obama so hard. I'm going to miss Obama. I already miss Obama. Listen to him talk. Right.

Listen to him talk. That was the president. He sounds so smart and good and he's funny. Well, I'll say that this ends up being a lot less about Obama than you might expect in the title of the documentary. It seems like it should be all about Obama. It seems like it should be. Or at least his deception. It's not really.

Okay. Anyway. Everybody somewhere between the ages of 18 and 25 will serve three months of basic training. So. All right. God damn it. The clip of Rahm Emanuel that he just played there is taken from an appearance Rahm made in 2006 on C-Span 2's Afterwords program to promote a book he co-wrote called The Plan Big Ideas for America. Honestly, a lot of the interview is about how he wants to help families pay for their kids college because the investment in human capital pays off for the larger society at a higher rate than any other kind of investment.

He also spends a lot of time talking about working to get rid of corporate welfare. So we're in a long struggle against terrorism in America as a target and therefore one of the best ways to prepare America is to bring citizens forward in understanding what their role is going to be. Everything from if the levies break to if there's a chemical attack in this country or some other type of attack, what role they have and training the citizens. Everybody between the ages of 18 to 25 will serve three months of basic training in understanding a kind of civil defense. The important thing to remember here is this is just an idea that Rahm and his co-author had, not something that ever got put into legislation. He wrote this book and that appearance was in 2006. Right, well before. Until right around when Obama won, he backed Hillary.

So this is nonsense. I am already furious with Alex because I do not ever, ever, ever want to defend Rahm Emanuel from anything. That guy can go fucking die. Don't give a shit. Why are you making me defend Rahm Emanuel? As citizens of Chicago, we have a particular dislike of the man. And yeah, I think all kinds of criticisms of him are very valid. And this just isn't one of them.

If you want to say that the idea that he was expressing in that book is dumb, you could have that argument if you want. It's a dumb idea. Sure, I think there's some utility to it possibly, but I think it probably would be a system that would be cumbersome and impossible to implement. I mean, you can't even get everyone to go to school. How are you going to get them to then do community service through school? You're not going to be able to do it. Yeah. Anyway, it's high-minded, but misguided.

And everything he said that you just described there, he completely did not do when he was given any opportunity for power. Right, you betcha. Also, we pause it right in the middle here, but this clip that Obama is saying is that we need a civilian force equivalent to the army. He's talking about the Peace Corps. Yeah. In context, he's just talking about the Peace Corps. Yeah. Alex is pretending that it's some sort of nefarious group.

Great. The National Security Force. That's just as powerful, just as strong. Youth Brigade. Youth Brigades. Youth Brigades. Youth Brigades. Obamacare plan will include coverage of Washington Medical Service.

Youth Brigade. So, Alex is there. What the fuck was that? Alex played a clip of a bunch of African-American children in sort of stepping routine, like step dancing. Yeah. Routine talking about Obama's plan and chanting, yes we can. This, to me, is without a doubt a visual dog whistle. Oh, no.

Are you saying that Alex is trying to make you feel afraid of any large group of black children getting together and moving in unison? You bet. Oh, odd. Even if they're just children? Hey, dude, Alex just opened his film with multiple lies and distortions about the idea of Obama creating his own personal army. And then the next clip he plays is of black youth chanting in support of Obama. There's no question what image he wanted to put in the audience's head with that. It's very obvious.

An army of black people coming to take their guns. You bet. Yep. That video was taken from a YouTube video that an anonymous uploader posted on October 2, 2008. The full video shows children one by one expressing what career path they intended to pursue because they were inspired by Obama. After that procession. I want to commit white genocide. Mostly being an architect.

Oh, mostly being an architect. What could be a better job than the architect of a white genocide? Yeah. After the procession, the children recite facts about Obama's health care plan. Immediately after this video got posted, people got real pissed. And kind of understandably, I guess, it does appear to be indoctrination of children. But the boys were students at the Urban Community Leadership Academy in Kansas City, Missouri. Joyce McGuffa, the superintendent of the school, noted that they were not going to release the name of the teacher of the students because they were likely going to pursue legal action.

It issue was the fact that the teacher was having the students study Obama's health care plan, but not also McCain's. Not that they ended up doing the chanting. That would be totally fine. Probably more important as an aspect of the story is that the Urban Community Leadership Academy was a charter school, which was described as a failed experiment by the 2014 report by the network of public education due to endemic patterns of fraud and scamming. Systematic within charter schools used to make a profit off educating children. No. The Urban Community Leadership Academy is likely one such school, or I should say it was.

It closed in 2012 and by the Missouri State Auditor found after the school had been notified by their sponsor, the University of Central Missouri, that they were intending to allow their sponsorship to lapse, that $117,980 in school funds was unaccounted for. Even under subpoena, the school's business manager could not find receipts to justify the claim purchases. You kind of have to assume that this wasn't the only incident of conveniently sloppy record keeping they ever got up to. That's the bigger issue that I see here than this YouTube video. It's a corrupt organization, like most charter schools. That's what I care about more here than these kids chanting about Obama. Also come on man, you can study Obama's health care plan because it's in depth and it's complicated.

McCain's plan was super simple. For one night every year, all crime is legal. Right. And 999 was where McCain. Also, they're just assuming that the teacher didn't teach them both plans and the kids were like, I like Obama's more. Yeah. I don't know if that's the case. I'm not saying it is.

I have no idea. But you know, the thing that I really feel bad about here is that there is an element of abuse within this. And that's based on the fact that these kids were put into this situation. And they're the faces that appear in this documentary specifically to spread fear of militant black youths. Not the teacher who is presumably the adult in the situation. So I just feel like this is it's wrong of Alex to do this because those kids don't deserve to be put into this documentary as a source of fear for Alex's viewers. That's not true. They got points on the back end.

Oh, did they? Yeah. Of the documentary Alex is putting out for free on YouTube. They got points on the back end. Great. That's for sure. For all the licensing. Great.

Let me tell you something. Their action figures could not keep them on the shelves. So now at this point, we meet one of the main scholars of this documentary, a gentleman by the name of Webster Tarpley. Who looks exactly like the fat crypt keeper. And we'll get into him a little bit down the road, but here is his introduction to the fray. Obama is a cruel hoax. He works for Wall Street. He's an agent of finance capital.

Where did you come up with the number? $700 billion. Here's the treasury spokeswoman's quote. It's not based on any particular data point. We just really wanted to come up with a really big number to Democrats and Republicans who've opposed this plan. I say, step up to the plate. A few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no. So goddamn right there will be real quick.

That is California Representative Brad Sherman speaking on the floor in 2008 about the initial bailout bill, which is before Obama was elected. Alex was playing fast and loose with that quote about being threatened with martial law. It's not so much that anyone in Congress was threatened with martial law. It's more a situation where the consequences of not acting were so severe that some people felt that things could get bad enough that our entire economy would go belly up. That's what Representative Sherman is saying. And I know this. You know how I know this? Jordan, do you know how I know this?

How do you know it? Because on October 14th, 2008, Brad Sherman went on Alex Jones' show. God damn it! And this exchange occurred. Alex quote, specifically, sir, we need to know names. Who told you that they were told that martial law and blood in the streets, as you say, would happen? Brad, private conversations between members on the floor. You really can't reveal that without the permission of the other party.

Alex, I understand, but were there arm twisters coming up or were they scared? I mean, how is it said specifically? Brad, I think these were people who really believed what they were saying. I don't think these people who got called by Goldman Sachs and said, go say this or go say that. The panic takes a life of its own. One person says the market will drop 2,000 points. Somebody else says 2,500. Somebody else says 3,000.

Somebody else says unemployment will immediately jump to 9%. Alex, it spreads. It gets worse and worse. Brad, I don't think there was, or at least I'm not aware of this being carefully orchestrated. So he made an appearance on Alex's show and contradicted the version that Alex presents. This idea that they were threatened with martial law. Alex got what he wants. More or less, but he never mentions that on October 14th, 2008, the very guy was on his show.

It was more people saying that there could be bad consequences of this, but no one had their arm twisted and threatened by Goldman Sachs representatives. It's fucking bullshit. Here is my new plan. I don't think we've ever read transcripts of the show before. I wanted to print them out so we could do it as a duo. See, now I'm thinking we need to do a live stage reading of one of his shows. I wouldn't be against it.

I think that's a great idea. I think the blocking would be real easy to get down. Just sitting here flailing. And one of us doesn't get to have a shirt. That's definitely, I think I would have to play Alex, right? Yeah, no one wants to see me without a shirt. Very hairy. Come on.

That's not kind. You look like Robin Williams. That's not, ooh, never mind. So the punchline of this is that once Brad Sherman gets off the phone with Alex on that appearance, Alex starts to mischaracterize the conversation immediately saying, quote, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, there were people on the floor saying they were told there would be martial law and literal blood in the streets if it didn't happen. They were told this, but I can't tell you who told me.

Now he's trying to already spin this into the narrative that he wants. Fun fact, Brad Sherman is a gun grabbing LGBT supporting abortion defending dude with 100% rating from the National Organization of Women, 100% rating from the ACLU, and in July 12th, 2017, he introduced articles of impeachment against Donald Trump. Wait, what? Yeah. That's Brad Sherman? Yeah. What?

Yeah. So Alex has some kind of documentary, which is kind of funny to me a little bit. That is weird. Yeah, there's a number of people who- A 100% rating from the NOW? Yep. Motherfucker. No, Brad Sherman was dope.

There's a number of people who are in this documentary who have really funny codas to their career. Yeah. Now, where we're about to go with this next clip is one of the, like, on this, in preparation of this documentary, I, like, sincerely went down some weird rabbit holes that may have nothing to do with this documentary. Of course, of course. But some of the stories are so absurd that they must be told, and this is one of them. Here we have Louis Gohmert on the floor talking shit about Henry Paulson, and then we have a picture of, like, Ben Bernanke and-

All of whom can go die. Sure. Yeah. Secretary Henry Paulson is no George Washington. Now, that is an- That's actually true. Sure. That is the first true thing we have heard so far in this documentary.

Now, that- And Alex did not say it. Now, that is a stray quote and certainly doesn't deserve us to talk about it. Something Louis Gohmert doesn't come back up in this documentary. But I got so, like, I was like, who cares? What's up with Louis Gohmert? So, I'm not here to defend Henry Paulson, but I will say that Louis Gohmert also is no George Washington. Okay.

If anyone wants some real good fun, Google Louis Gohmert Terror Babies and watch the clip of Gohmert freaking out for, like, seven minutes because Anderson Cooper doesn't believe a conspiracy that Louis Gohmert is pushing, that terrorists are having anchor babies here so they can stay and do terrorism years down the line. Anderson Cooper has such a hard time not laughing. It is one of the funniest things I've ever watched. And this is before the Americans came out. Mm-hmm. In 2013, the advocate awarded Louis Gohmert a phobia award for being one of the biggest homophobes of the year.

This was the result of him defending his position that you shouldn't be able to regulate guns because gay marriage is the same thing as bestiality, I think. His quote. Okay. And the problem is once you draw a limit in terms of, like, capacity magazine size, it's kind of like marriage. When you say it's not a man and a woman anymore, then why not have three men and a woman or four women and a man, or why not someone who has a lover for an animal?

Cool. Okay. Good thinking. So somehow, his argument is you can't regulate guns because you're regulating marriage. But he's angling it so he thinks you're deregulating marriage. And so deregulating guns is better. Something like that. It's worse.

But he was just trying. I don't understand how that tracks at all. It doesn't. All he was doing was trying to bridge a gap to bestiality somehow. Yeah. So he could make a stupid point. Also, in 2013, Gohmert argued the terrorists were sneaking into the country by pretending to be Mexican immigrants because, quote,

we don't have any fear of Hispanics coming into the country. Boy, you ain't seen nothing yet. He went on to clarify that he doesn't want to stop Mexican labor from coming into the country saying, quote, I'd like to keep having fruit. I'm a big fruit fan. I'd like to keep having. I just now thought of a great idea for a TV show. Okay.

Take this pitch. I love it. It's been a while since we've had a good show. It's been a while since we've had a good show pitch. Here we go. It's been a great TV show. Listening. Based on the redacted pages from the 9-11 report, we'll call it Terror Muppet Babies.

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So I want to tell you all about determinism in Washington City, the erstwhile president arrested. Protests ensued from Morsy supporters, and not surprisingly, in the wake of the coup, headed up by, a general. Some killings of civilians started. No. Come on. That never happened.

On August 14, 2013, LCC's forces raided two camps of protesters in Cairo after they'd been engaging in a six-week-long sit-in. Human rights watch describe what ensued. As quote, one of the world's largest killings of demonstrators in a single day in recent history, and put the death toll at at least 817, but likely more than a thousand people. Jesus. Less than a month later, Louis Gohmert visited to give LCC congratulations on performing the coup.

Good work. For reasons I can't explain other than just to shrug and say tea party, he was joined on the trip by noted weirdo, Michelle Bachman, and outright Nazi representative, Steve King. What a weird convoy. What is going on? Why? All right. New road movie.

We're going to be doing a lot of road movies if this is the case right here. So Michelle Bachman, Steve King, and Louis Gohmert, get in a plane, fly over to congratulate a military dictator committing a coup, which ostensibly America is for our guts. This is after he killed all those demonstrators. And this is, wait, this is 2013. So this is way after the square. Mm-hmm. Jesus.

So that's fucked up. Because many of the pro-Morsi protesters who were massacred were members of the Muslim Brotherhood, Bachman took it upon herself to blame the Muslim Brotherhood for doing 9-11. Right. This is hard to grasp, for one, because it's not true, and two, because the Muslim Brotherhood publicly and strongly condemned the attacks of 9-11. Anyway, the reason I bring all this up is that on that trip, Louis Gohmert said this,

quote, George Washington, doing what no one had ever done before him, led a military in revolution, won the revolution, and then resigned and went home. And we met, in general, LCC, a man who is a leader of the military, who might have a shot at being elected president, but is more concerned about giving his life to help his country, Egypt. Henry Poulsen is no George Washington, but apparently LCC is, according to Louis Gohmert. How was LCC's record following this, Dan? I seem to recall he was a benevolent god-king.

I will tell you this. He would go on to win the presidency in overwhelming fashion, bringing in 96% of the vote. That is definitely not a suspicious amount. He was also not running on a post, so it wasn't just like... It is super odd how many dictators win by 95% plus of the vote. He's still a president today in Egypt, and Human Rights Watch has described his government as having, quote, worked to eradicate independent civil society in the country. Congratulations, Louis Gohmert.

If anyone questions Mr. Kashkari that you're working hard, our question is who you're working for. Obama pledged that he would resume the security and prosperity partnership talks between Mexico and Canada that President Bush is in. Now we're back to the road. Yeah. It's gonna work a lot like the new boss. Watch out for that road.

It's gonna remain on the job as Defense Secretary for at least a year. At this point, I'm just kind of letting it go. I don't know. When he first knew about this meeting, told us and others that it was at Hillary Clinton's house, but clearly... Just because we've said a precedent now of pausing so frequently, let me just say a lot of this stuff is going to be stuff that comes up later. Gotcha.

I'm not ignoring this as much as... Real quick. When was this... This was released in 2009. I believe March, early March, 2009. Right. Yeah. Obama became president in January.

That's a fundamental problem that we're gonna have to deal with as this goes along. Yes. So, as far as... Did he include anything post inauguration other than like video of the inauguration? I know for a fact that some of these interviews were taped after Obama was inaugurated because they... Okay. KRS-1 is about to pop up and we know from...

We know KRS-1 is about to go off. And we know from our podcast episodes that we've listened to in 2009 when Alex met KRS-1. Yeah. So, we know that that was after the election. So, he shot that stuff. It's a huge, huge problem that he rushed this to market as it were. Yeah, that's not good. That's not good.

You should like... You know, give him a couple of weeks, you know? Yeah. No big deal. Also, I wish... It's crazy. That would be great. That would be great.

We do have a second rapper who shows up. Oh, yeah? Let that be a mystery for now. Okay. God damn it. It's not big daddy came. Talib Kuali? No.

It wasn't. We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to see. We see you causing a depression so you can blow out the economy and consolidate it and bankrupt it. We know that you're enemies of free humanity. We hear... All right.

Hold on one second. You know, while he was talking, there was a big audible cheer. Yeah. Yeah, he was not talking to a rally. That was edited in there. Oh, yeah. He was talking by himself. Yes, almost.

With no one cheering at all. And we're just showing B-roll over this of like army troops and maps of the world. Yeah. Well, actually here, what we have here is like a weird animation from this documentary. It looks like an animation. And I think Alex blew his budget on it and refused to take it out because I have one piece of information that is really crucial to this. And you'll see here as the camera pans out, we see that this isn't just an animation of

Barack Obama. It's a group shot. So here we have Tim Geithner. We have Robert Gates over here. Fuck that guy. We have Rahm Emanuel. Fuck that guy. Importantly here is Tom Daschle.

I have fucked that guy too, but yeah. Tom Daschle was nominated for secretary of health and human services, but by the time this documentary came out, he had already withdrawn his name from consideration because of tax problems. So I think that Alex blew his budget on this shoddy, awful animation and just refused to change it by the time it came out because fuck it, throw Tom Daschle in there. Why not? It's embarrassing.

This is embarrassing. Title card. We finally got a title, baby. The Obama deception. The truth strikes back. The truth strikes back. Got a turntable going. K.R.S.1 rocking it.

Alex is actually going to kiss his sister in this sequel. All presidents are including Bush. It's like this, when your fries are cold, if your burger is not done right, you go back to Burger King, America, or your government, and you say, my burger's cold. I want new fries. First, you go to the cashier. That's the courts. This is an extended simile.

The courts, if you can't get no justice with the cashier, you say, let me see the manager. I want to go to the Supreme Court. I want to see the president. That's not the way that goes, but okay. What can I do for you? Now the manager can override the decisions of the cashier, but you never get to see the president. I am just hungry now, K.R.S.

If you really have a problem with your burger, you need to go see the franchise owner. We need to go to the top or to the bottom. We need to go to where the real architecture of government is. See, I like to let people speak their peace. That's why I didn't interrupt that convoluted load of bullshit. That was, I don't know who actually is what in that analogy. That metaphor doesn't work for so many different reasons. First of all is the idea that, okay, so the cashier is the courts.

Your burger's cold, metaphorically, you go to them. If your burger's cold, you ask for new fries. I'll leave that part alone. That I'll allow. That part is like whatever. Something's cold. You have a complaint. You go to the courts.

They're like, nah. So then you go to the president. Like even if it gets escalated to the Supreme Court, you don't go then to the president. That's not how it works. That makes absolutely no sense. That's a fundamental lack of understanding of civics and how things go. Now the second problem that I have with this is if your burger's cold, the cashier can help you.

The store manager can help you if the cashier isn't helpful. The franchise owner doesn't have time for that shit. That's not the problem for the franchise owner. Yeah. What is the franchise owner in this? It's the president? No. That would be the globalists.

Oh, it's the globalists. And the international bankers are the franchise owner. And then the president is the store manager, the cashiers, the courts. It's all ridiculous. I'm not going to lie to you. One of my favorite things is hip hop artists' conspiracy theories and how the government works. If you listen to the RZA talk about the government, it is the funniest fucking thing you've ever

heard. Well, because it sounds good. Yeah. And tell you think about it a little bit. For one second. No. No. And look, I'm fine.

It introduced crack to the black community. That's obvious. Everybody knows that. No doubt. Yeah. But this, I mean, I want to like, I don't want to not like him, but like, if he's displaying this level of like, first of all, lack of awareness of how our government works while making substantive complaints about said government, right?

And then also demonstrates this kind of like inability to wrestle with inference. Like the metaphor that he's making is so shoddy. They're like, if I were him, I'd be like, don't put that in the documentary. That doesn't make no sense coming out of my mouth. If you are making a metaphor, a good one, you don't need to then explain which part each individual thing is, you know, you don't have to be like, and then you go to the cashier, the courts, like a good metaphor, it kind of explains itself. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you'd hope. Yeah. You'd hope that the, whatever the analogy you're making is like, oh, that's clear. I want some new fries. I've always admired K.R.S. One. I still think a lot of his music is great, but when you hear someone make this kind of bad analogy to explain their political philosophy, you really need to take a step

back and assess whether they're not so they are someone or someone who you shouldn't listen to like in not in terms of their music, but in terms of their opinions. This is ludicrous. This it's not ludicrous ludicrous is great in the Fast and Furious movies. Also it's important. Yeah, but you haven't heard his politics. That's true. It's fair.

I'll hold off on that. So it's important to point out that five months after this interview with Alex that he's doing right now, K.R.S. One released a 600 page book called quote, the gospel of hip hop, the first instrument in promoting the book. He said, quote, I'm suggesting that in a hundred years, this book will be the new religion on earth. I respect Christianity, the Islam, the Judaism, but their time is up.

He certainly has every right to start his own music based religion, so I'm not going to knock that. I fucking love that. I just prefer more music based religion. Well, yeah, I just think it's really funny that Alex Jones, the guy who can't stop yelling about how Christians are under attack, is perfectly fine promoting this guy who's actively trying to start a religion because, quote, Christianity's time is up. It should be.

It's crazy. All of these people, Alex has no idea who the people he associates with are. No. It's hilarious. He's such a user like he gets what he wants out of people and then he discards them whole cloth. Yeah. It's disappointing.

It's not in a president. It's in a global scheme. Politics in America today is identical to pro wrestling. Got Jesse Ventura here. And what I mean by that is in front of the cameras and the public, we all hate each other. I'm going to kick my opponent. Why is Willie Nelson here? Why isn't Willie Nelson everywhere and beat the crap out of him yet behind the scenes?

We have our friends going out to dinner. We're going out to dinner together. What? And it's on a little call in a married children's showbiz and that's what you have to do. Politics, the Democrats and Republicans aren't really opposed to each other. So I like, I like, first of all, it's hilarious that Willie Nelson is just sitting there and just like, yeah, yeah. Going to dinner.

Nope. They go to dinner. Yeah. Just like, and Willie Nelson doesn't come back in this document at all. Jesse Ventura barely does. It's just like he's there sitting in the tour bus and what he's expressing is like politics is like a Burger King franchise. If your fries are cold, it would be so great if everybody gave the same metaphor.

Every single person is just like, have you heard KRS one's opinion on this? Now I was talking to a hip hopper the other day and he told me about this great metaphor about fast food while we were at a Burger King. So now the other thing I want to point out is that like saying that Republicans and Democrats act like opposing forces, but behind the scenes, they get along. That's how I want the fucking government to work. This isn't show business. It's just humans disagreeing civilly.

Yeah. There's the way that I would like things to work. The idea that one side believes position X, the other side believes position Y, but they're both good people and can share a stake and talk about their families or golf scores or whatever the fuck. That's how the world should operate. Right. This is painting this as not what Jesse is saying, which is like, hey, everybody in

public hates each other, but then we hang out in private. He's trying to paint it. He's talking about pro wrestling. Exactly. But Alex is trying to paint it as in private, we all believe the same shit. Right, right, right. Not we're civil and we're hanging out like a, what, Ginsburg and Scalia before he absolutely not tragically passed.

He was murdered by the Illuminati. Thank God. But the first good thing the Illuminati's ever done. The other thing that this simplistic look at things does is it discounts and takes away the entire idea that like you and I could disagree on one, maybe even fairly major position, but have a lot of other common ground. Oh yeah. And we could get together on like policy A, B and C, but disagree on F, G and H.

Right. You don't have to be ideologues all the time, like on everything, at least in a perfect world. It would make more sense. Yeah. Yeah. It would make more sense if everybody was like, we understand that climate change is the biggest issue right now, but I still disagree on taxes, you know, that'd be great

if everybody could figure out where they come together instead of, our side says you suck so everything you do sucks. Yeah. It's, it's trouble. Left and right mean nothing. The only thing that counts is, are you working for Wall Street or are you trying to defend the people against the financiers? Got Joe Rogan, ladies and gentlemen.

Hey. It's obvious that there's some gigantic financial institutions that have been pulling the strings of politicians in this country for a long time. Hey, there's Arch Barker's name. We have it set up where they can donate millions of dollars to these guys' funds, these guys' campaigns. I mean, how do we not expect it all to go bad? This is two things, back when Joe Rogan had hair and whenever he wasn't fucking insane.

Well, he was still fucking insane, but that makes sense. This is also the only appearance that Rogan makes in this documentary because I suspect that in 2009, Alex didn't know that he would soon be one of the most popular people in the world. Yeah. Otherwise he would have begged him to be all over this documentary. And also what Joe's expressing there is right on. Excessive money flooding into politics is a recipe for disaster.

But Jordan, the logical conclusion to that is not to adopt any of Alex's stupid positions. It's to initiate and institute public funding for campaigns and make accepting any donations illegal. Yeah. Strangely, that's not the topic of this documentary. It's Alex's dumb, dumb, Patriot nonsense. Anyway. America in 2009 was desperate for change.

It's still 2009. Eight years had been a disaster. Those weapons of mass destruction got to be somewhere. Fair, fair enough. Fuck you. Fuck you, George Bush. Yeah, I mean, point well taken. George W. Bush, who had claimed to be a conservative, had tripled the size of the federal government.

Shredded the Constitution. I was trying to figure out, I was trying to figure out what Alex meant by tripled the size of the federal government and went down a bunch of paths, couldn't figure out what he was saying. Oh, that's another thing. I forgot to mention this up top. During Endgame, I found Alex's bibliography for Endgame, which was mostly in Carta pages. Yeah, it was on the, it was on a CD that you could mail order.

It was in Carta pages and then citation needed a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even put out a bibliography. No bibliography for this one? There is nothing I can find in terms of sources. So when he makes the claim that Bush tripled the size of the government, in order for me to talk about that, I first have to know what he means by that. Is it government spending?

Is it government debt? Is it government employees? What is he talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It becomes incredibly frustrating to be like, right, do I have to guess for you? And that's going to happen so many fucking times anyway. Yep. No weapons over there.

That's probably fair. No, that's absolutely true. Endless wars, over a million dead Iraqis, and more than 5,000 dead U.S. troops. The Patriot Act, warrants a domestic wiretap inspired. The Patriot Act. Just a list. The end of Posse Commentatus. Give five more examples.

The road. The road. God damn it, that fucking road. A deepening recession, sliding towards total economic collapse. So which some president would then create some sort of a some sort of like relief. Save your thoughts on that. That's going to come up later. Of course.

But like here we have the Patriot Act. Yeah, bad. Not as bad as Alex says. He over exaggerates all sorts of things about like all misdemeanors will be terrorism under the Patriot Act. Right. Right. Patriot tapping is bad, but Alex also embellishes exaggerates and lies about that.

Posse Commentatus is still the law, and troops don't operate outside of federal property. And if they do, like is the case that we went over on the show recently, they get in trouble for it. No, they get in trouble. No. Well, in 2018. Yeah, in 2018. But back in 2009, when there were cases of that, the people in the military who were

responsible got in trouble for it. Right. Because it's the law. North American Union doesn't exist, nor is there any sign that it ever will. We have this recession that was happening, but it's irresponsible to talk like this in like February 2009, when Obama hasn't had a chance to do anything about it. Yeah. So the thing that is particularly jarring now that we live in the future, and it's still

fucking going on is the equivalence he has putting one million dead Iraqis, 5,000 dead American soldiers. And he does not like, he just leaves that there, puts them right next to each other, like they're the same problem. And it's like, yeah, yeah, dude, one of these is not like the other. That's that's a fair as a fair criticism. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck off. Yeah. God, America's bad, right? Seem seems that way. Yeah. Had the American people in a state of panic or their future and the very existence of the United States. The elite were in trouble.

The people were beginning to see through their facade past their front man to the ruling elite behind the throne for the first time in US history. Both parties were universally hated. Congress had a 9% approval rating. The globalist agenda had stalled. So I think he's playing a little bit fast and loose with these these poll numbers. So if you consult the Gallup polls historical approval ratings for Congress, you see this can't be where Alex is getting his information from as their approval rating during July

10th to 13th, 2008, the number hit 14%, which is the lowest during this span at all. But it rebounded up from there. And after the inauguration on January 2009, the numbers were back up in the 30s, which still isn't great, but it's not nearly what Alex is saying. According to Gallup's numbers, the congressional approval rating would never get down to 9% until November 2013. It's not hard to remember why their approval rating was so bad back then. You may recall that this crisis was the result of there being a Democratic majority Senate

in a Republican House. The Affordable Care Act had passed and this was a real problem for the folks on the right, many of whom were fully beholden to Koch Brothers money through Tea Party organizations like Tea Party Patriots and Heritage Action. It was an existential issue for them to see the ACA gone since it would make its so insurance companies would actually have to cover people and not treat health like unregulated gambling. In September 2013, there was an appropriations bill that needed to be passed to ensure that the government was funded.

Republicans, very notably Ted Cruz, used this as a bargaining chip to try and force the dismantling of the Affordable Care Act. They offered to pass the funding bill, but only if they could defund the Affordable Care Act. This strategy was literally coming from the Koch Brothers-founded Think Tank Freedom Works, which suggested that since the funding bill, quote, must be renewed in order for the doors to stay open in Washington, the continuing resolution is the best chance we will get to withdraw funds from Obamacare.

This can be done by attaching bills by Senator Ted Cruz or Congressman Tom Graves or to the continuing resolution, which will totally defund Obamacare. Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Mark Meadows are leading the charge to get their colleagues to commit to this approach by putting their signatures to a letter affirming that they will refuse to vote for the concurrent resolution that contains Obamacare funding. And guess what happened? The exact Republicans named in that release from Freedom Works led the charge not to approve the spending bill unless it dismantled the Affordable Care Act.

I bet they had no financial incentive to do that. No, no. Now, come on. The Democratic Senate didn't agree to those terms, and Obama had already said that he would veto any bill that passed with this strategy. So bada-bing, we ended up with a 16-day shutdown of the federal government. 800,000 employees were furloughed and 1.3 million had to go to work not knowing when they'd be paid.

The damage that was caused by this petulant shutdown that had nothing to do with actually achieving the goal of defunding the Affordable Care Act is pretty hard to put into words. Countless non-governmental organizations that relied on federal funding were completely cut off, including domestic violence shelters and homeless outreach programs. As many as 19,000 children lost their access to the Head Start program, which provides education, food and health care to underprivileged children. The national parks estimated that they lost approximately $76 million a day in tourism income during the shutdown, 2.7 million a day alone from the Grand Canyon, which has

a reciprocal effect on the small businesses that exist around the national parks that rely on them to bring in business in the form of tourists. That's when Congress had a 9% approval rating, but of course Alex was in favor of the government shutdown and supports Ted Cruz. I'm not sure what that means other than Alex Jones is a real shithead. So I'm sure the Koch brothers too lost money in this, right? Oh, they probably made a whole bunch. Oh, they didn't.

So, hold on. So you're saying that there were no negative effects to the billionaires for this political stunt that never had any chance of success at all. But there were real world effects for like regular people and just like humans and Americans and Johnny lunch pail, proud small business owner in America, right? So Alex is against money being in government, hates it, but he's super for good, good, good. Everybody makes sense. Dan, I love it.

Whenever there is a clear track between your ideology and your supporting positions. You betcha. Yeah. That's the time that polls showed an actual approval rating of 9% for Congress. But it should be pointed out that Rasmussen put out a poll in July 2008 saying that 9% of the 1000 likely voters they polled thought that Congress was doing a good or excellent job. That's all good and well, but that's not a 9% approval rating.

For contrast, Gallup's poll was just a poll of citizens 18 or older, not necessarily likely voters. And they specifically asked the question, quote, do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job? The way that they framed the question in the Rasmussen poll is not the way you get an approval rating. Right. So it's irresponsible to say they had a 9% approval rating when that wasn't what the

poll looked at. Also when was the last time Congress had a positive approval rating? I don't know. I don't know that offhand. 1958? No, I don't think so. I think it's been more recently than that. Also a minor point, but both parties, Alex is saying that they were universally hated.

That absolutely wasn't the case. The Democrats were winning on generic ballots by 12 points nationally, which makes sense because in the 2008 elections, Democrats gained eight seats in the Senate and 21 in the House, hence the need for the mainstream GOP to embrace the emerging Tea Party in a desperate attempt to write the ship. Just for context, the last time one party had 57 senators as the Democrats did after the 2008 election was in 1992, and that was the Democrats too. The last time the Republicans had a majority that large was in the election of 1920 when

Warren G. Harding was elected president and 11 states fielded socialist party candidates for the Senate that won over 1.7% of their state's votes. So I'm just giving you that as like that's the world we lived in the last time Republicans had the majority the Democrats enjoyed in 2008. It's crazy. How did it go the last time the Republicans had that massive majority? Oh, nine years after that the Great Depression happened. Oh, is that so since that so it's almost like there's a pattern of when the Republicans

are in power, they destroy fucking everything. But billionaires do all right. I suggest you not think about that. I'm just I'm just pointing that out. I don't know if anybody is used history for the scene came a man who promised change change. We could all believe it. Go fuck yourself. He's saying he came on to the scene and this is a myth that's perpetuated by the right

wing of this idea that he came out of nowhere. It's used to in service of the idea that he was a creation of the Illuminati. Yeah. A lot of people use it when they try and make arguments that he wasn't born in America or maybe even a demon. All these sorts of things. The problem is it's complete bullshit. Prior to running for president Obama ran for and served as the senator in Illinois.

That alone pretty much gets rid of the he came out of nowhere kind of gambit, but it's a legit way worse than that. Before being senator Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate winning his first election in 1996. Being part of the state Senate that puts Obama right on the same level as all these weirdo state senators that Alex constantly has on his program to talk about reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and all that shit. He's been in he was in state Senate since 1997.

That's almost as long as Alex has been on the radio Obama has been in an elected state position. He came out of nowhere. Nobody knew who he was. What it what it what even is a state Senate then well Alex is thrilled about them all the time. Our state Senate in Kenya. Alex believes in states rights being supreme.

He should be more interested in the state legislature. No, no, it's definitely not because he's black. It's not because he's black. It's not. Okay. It's because he's black. What Alex is really saying here and what all these people are really saying is that he appeared when they say he appeared out of nowhere is he wasn't on my radar.

That's all they're really saying and it's fairly easy to see why in his time in Congress. One term basically Obama was the primary sponsor for four bills that were enacted. In comparison outright Nazi Steve King of Iowa has been in the house since 2003 and at press time he's only got one bill passed and it was to name a post office. Obama was an active member of the state Senate in Illinois. Post office was named the n word. That would deface. Yeah, I mean he you know he was a member of the state Senate then in the US Senate and

in 2004 he gave a super important speech at the Democratic National Convention which boosted the stature even further. It was it was the like it was the first time the world was like holy shit this guy can fucking talk. Right. So like the idea that he came out of nowhere even if he wasn't in the state house and state Senate and all that before in 2004 he gave that like sort of groundbreaking speech at the Democratic Convention.

Alex, it's all stupid just like Trump was a sleeper patriot Obama was a sleeper Kenyan state senator. Yeah. Who also was a community organizer. Did a lot of good for a lot of people. Yeah. You know that that you know how Kenya does that. Blah.

Yeah. Barack H. Obama promised in the war and bring our troops home fast. Yeah, he did. To uphold the Constitution and to stop the federal government from spying on the American people. He did all right with that. We'll get into like some of the issues of these specifics later as Alex gets into them. But like you've already brought up it's so important to remember this is less than two

months into Obama's term. So him insinuating that he hasn't kept these problems like he hasn't ended the war yet implies that what he wants is a dictator. He wants executive that will act unilaterally without concern for the consequences which kind of makes sense now considering in present day which you which you can do while at the same time upholding the Constitution right Dan? Can't you in America you can act unilaterally with no regard for the other branches of government while still maintaining the Constitution right?

If you believe that all the amendments don't really exist and most of the Constitution doesn't exist. Right. Because we're all sovereign beings and all that shit. Yeah. Admiralty. Yeah. I guess you can.

I don't think you can. Yeah. No. I don't think so. He didn't. And he's already breaking those promises. Two months in. In this film we will prove that Obama says one thing and does another.

He's still just moving in. The elite interests that Bush served. The very interest engineering the financial collapse and formation of a dictatorial world government. This film is not about left or right. It is nonpartisan. Don't fuck yourself. You don't need to say that if that's the truth.

Yeah. Seriously. Real quick. You like hearing that violin come back? Oh is that Endgame a blueprint for global enslavement? You like hearing that violin come back? Oh shit. If humanity has any hope.

Buckley dropped the base. It will not come from the Madison Avenue false reality makers. What? Who have cast Barack Obama as the savior of the world. Madman. Sorry. To alter our course from tyranny to liberty, to defeat the corrupt elite, we must get past the puppets and confront the real power structure.

No puppet. New puppet. Using it. Using the same. Now we can see a new world coming into view. Bill! A world in which there is the very best prospect of a new world order. Webster Griffin tarpollies an accomplice.

Notice the Christmas decorations here. You're not allowed to. That's why this documentary isn't allowed in Starbucks. But it kind of dates it. It dates when he was videotaping Webster Tarpollies. So that's kind of interesting to note that this is before Obama properly even was inaugurated. Oh come on. He was inaugurated in January when you always leave at 21 days of Christmas.

Sure. Geopolitical analyst in his story. Which still wouldn't cover January 20. Are the unauthorized biographies of George Herbert Walker Bush and Barack Hussein Obama. The postmodern coup. Of course, the elder made his speech at the United Nations back in September of 1990 talking about the new world order. I think it's become confused about what's actually going on in the world.

The new world order is a more palatable name for the Anglo-American world empire. So real quick, he's basically just laid his cards on the table and said what? Yeah, Anglo-American. Well, it's just an Anglo-American establishment. This is clearly just, okay, all of your information comes from people who have twisted the work of Carol Quigley. Yep. I got the book, The Anglo-American Establishment, that has been misrepresented by the likes

of W. Cleon Scousen in The Naked Capitalist and Gary Allen in Nundare College Conspiracy. These are, you know, when you use terms like that, it's like, ah, that's what you're talking about. Yeah. I'll still evaluate your claims based on what they're merit, but I know that that's where you come from now. Now, I want to tell you about Webster Griffin-Tarpley. Let's hear about him.

This guy. I do want to tell you one thing about Webster Griffin-Tarpley. Okay. Pretty fantastic name. It's pretty good. They're the... Webster. I don't, I don't...

Tarpley. I do not judge people's appearance the same way that Alex does. Right, right. He looks exactly like, do you remember in the big... He looks angry. Do you remember the big Lebowski? Do you remember the billionaire or the rich dude? The big Lebowski?

Yeah. Lebowski. The big Lebow. Yes. Yeah. The character. The character. Yes.

The billionaire one. He does... Do you know why that guy was chosen to play that part? Because he looks evil as shit. There's... Yeah. Yeah. There is a nefariousness to him.

Now, I want to tell you this. As I was doing the research, I wanted to drop doing this documentary and call Webster Tarpley. Can we call him? No, I don't know his phone number. Is he dead? No, I think he's still alive. Okay. But I wanted to, I wanted to like say, fuck it.

Let's just do a documentary about Webster Tarpley because he is... Let's just do a documentary about him. Because now I am completely fascinated with this guy. What's going on? I think you'll see why by the time I finish this bio on him. Okay. So, Webster Tarpley here in the documentary is credited as an author and a historian. He's notably not also credited as a guy who has a radio show on the Genesis Communications

Network. Oh, God dammit! The show is called World Crisis Radio and it's a bit of a conflict of interest to not point that out. One of the main sources of this documentary is also someone who's on the payroll of the guy who distributes Alex's radio show. That's a little bit, you know, immoral. Does Tony Anderson show up halfway in and they have a little sit down where the leg...

Okay. Now, we're going to break it. We're going to get back into the Obama deception. But guys, the only way to get past this North American union shit, buy my gold! Ted does not show up, but I don't want to tip my hand on any possible evidence. Okay, okay. So, Webster Tarpley is a protege of Lyndon LaRouche, who comes up on our normal show every now and again, most interestingly as being Jim Baker's cellmate when the two were

in prison. LaRouche is only tangentially related to the matters at hand, so we're going to have to save getting deep into him for another day. But suffice it to say, in 1979 he filed a libel lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League for calling him anti-Semitic. The suit was thrown out and Justice Michael Dotson of the New York Supreme Court ruled that it was a fair comment, and the facts... The facts, quote, reasonably give rise to the description of him as anti-Semitic.

That's the Marine Le Pen. You are legally a fascist, you dumb idiot. Whoops! Yeah. Lyndon LaRouche accidentally made a New York Supreme Court judge rule on the record that his actions could be fairly called anti-Semitic. By law, you are an anti-Semitic. And that's someone who's Webster Tarpley's mentor and a sort of ideological predecessor.

I decided to check into Tarpley's credentials, and I suppose it's fair that he describes himself as an author and a historian. Most of his books are unauthorized biographies, like George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography, Obama, The Postmodern Coup, Making of a Manchurian Candidate, two subtitles. That is a lot of subtitles. Little ambitious. Also, funny note, the book was called Obama, Dangerous Geometry, when it was released in Japan.

I like that. That is Jimmy James, Monkey, Monkey, or what, Donkey, Super Karate, Monkey Death Car? No, no, no. The name of the book was mistranslated as like Donkey Wrestler, something along those lines. And now the Super Karate Monkey Death Car will come to my hut. He also wrote a book called Barack H. Obama, The Unauthorized Biography. That came out four months after the other Barack Obama book.

He wrote two biographies of Obama in the same year. And also... And you're going to argue he came out of nowhere? Right. Also, in 2012, if you wrote a book, it was titled Just Too Weird, Bishop Romney and the Mormon Takeover of America, Polygamy, Theocracy, and Subversion, two subtitles. Subtitle number three, she's just not that into you. I don't have any interest in reading these books, but reviews that I've read have described

his work as, quote, a melange of fact and distortion written in a highly suppositional style that makes numerous leaps of logic and asserts connections where there is no evidence to support it, and at other times omits exculpatory or contrarian information that reveals a more complex picture, which sounds like exactly the sort of guy Alex would love to be an expert. So if he were to go in front of the New York State Supreme Court, they would legally say you are not a historian. Well, actually, that's crazy because he is kind of a historian. It is true that he is a PhD in early modern history, which is to say the Middle Ages.

However, that degree is from the Catholic University of America. That degree from the Catholic University of America in early modern history is like early modern history is still Noah to them. Well, Catholic University of America is a good school, according to the Princeton Review. I still am going to raise my eyebrows concerning what a school literally founded by the Vatican might be teaching about the Middle Ages. Seems like they might have a skewed version of events from that period. I have no idea if that's true.

The Pope never fucked anybody and definitely not a lot of people at the same time a bunch of times, and it was multiple popes. Yeah. All I can go on is that I have an ingrained distrust of organized religion, especially as an educational tool, and the fact that the American Association of College Professors has censured the Catholic University of America for academic freedom violations. All that being said, the school is 62.8% white and 0.0% gay. There's no abortions there ever.

Right. But that is... That's not even true. It's not even 0.0% gay. Of course. There's no possible way. Of course not. Yeah.

That's not the most interesting thing about Tarpley's credentials. After receiving his bachelor's in the languages from Princeton, he studied as a Fulbright scholar at the University of... He did what? ...of Turin in Italy. The reason this is interesting is that the Fulbright program is funded entirely by the Bureau of Education and Cultural Affairs of the United States State Department. How did he get a Fulbright scholarship?

He's a really smart guy. He is not! Yeah, we'll see. It was created, the Fulbright program was created, with the goal of sending students abroad and bringing foreign students here with the hope of improving intercultural relations and bringing said nations together. You see, the Fulbright program was named after the guy who came up with it, Senator J. William Fulbright.

The thing about J. William Fulbright is, he is a bit of a globalist. Oh, yeah? Yeah. From his book, The Arrogance of Power, quote, insofar as international law is observed, it provides... Does he have a subtitle for that too? Nope. No subtitle.

Well, see, now that's a smart man. Yeah. Insofar as international law is observed, it provides us with stability and order and with a means of predicting the behavior of those with whom we have reciprocal legal obligations. He wholeheartedly supported the creation of the UN, and after he retired from the Senate, he practiced international law. So what we have here is Webster Tarpley accepting government money in a globalist program created by an arch-globalist so he could go study in Italy.

Yeah, you have to use their own powers against them. I guess. Yeah. And thus, it should make no one all that surprised to find out that, in the lead up to the 2016 election, Webster Tarpley came out strongly in favor of Hillary Clinton. He accurately figured out that the collapse of any kind of a principled libertarianism in America was leaving an opening that Trump could exploit to bring in fascism. He wrote on March 25, 2016, quote, if we look for the roots of the Trump phenomenon, and

in particular the savage immorality of a candidate whose supporters applaud when he calls for expanding the use and severity of torture, mass deportations, and mass killings of the families of his targets, we should not forget about the tremendous degradation included by a figure like Ron Paul. Paul wanted to abolish all U.S. emergency food aid, meaning that about 60% of the emergency nourishment usually available worldwide in a given year would have disappeared, leading once again to genocide. He literally argues that libertarianism is the front door, the natural introduction

to fascism, and that Ron Paul is complicit in it. In this blog post, he's clearly also talking about Alex Jones, quote, between 2008 and early 2015, the libertarian bloggers and broadcasters were in a state of accelerating decline, especially in terms of the moral honesty and ideological quality of their output. We're watching the astounding ease with which veteran doctrinaire libertarians blithely throw their doctrine and principles overboard and rush like lemmings to join the bandwagon of the fascist Trump, whose dictatorial and authoritarian tendencies could hardly be more blatant.

Does he call himself out in this? I don't know. No. Does he at any point say, also, I totally helped him out? Also sorry I was in the Obama discussion. My bad, guys, for giving you the push, for giving you a bullshit veneer of intellectualism to what is clearly something I regret. Yeah, so after he put out that blog, everyone at the Prison Planet Forum started theorizing

that he was a secret globalist all along. Of course, the whole time! Good thing Alex made him the centerpiece of this documentary. I have no idea what to think about Webster Charpley, like as a whole. He's going to be factually and spiritually wrong about almost everything in this documentary, but at the same time, he at least had the good sense to see Trump for what he was and had the wherewithal to speak out about it, which is kind of crazy considering the other people in this world.

I think the most likely conclusion here, and this is what I'm going to stick by, because it's the easiest, simplest explanation that explains all of the things, is that Webster Charpley is a charlatan and a con man, that even a con man generally knows better than to support the rise of something overtly fascist. Because generally, then you have to pay them for your con, or they shut down your con. Also just so no one thinks I'm being unfair, I do need to point out that J. William Fulbright was a huge piece of shit. He supported multiculturalism abroad, however he protested the Brown versus the Board of

Education Decision. God damn it! He filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and ironically voted against the Voting Rights Act. Oh, he's part of the great Republican exodus then. Also it's fun to note this, in August 2016, Webster Charpley reported that Melania Trump was a high end prostitute before meeting Donald Trump, which quickly led to a libel suit from Melania.

Oh yeah? In February 2017, Webster Charpley settled that lawsuit, the terms of which were private, but included him making a public apology and paying a substantial sum. So he, yeah, he's off the wagon. You know what? He's off the... You know what? I'm going to say this spiritually?

I think he's right. Don't get yourself into libel territory. No, no, no. I mean, I'm just saying that if you marry Trump... I hear you. You're probably... It's funny. You may not have worked as a sex worker, but you are now a sex worker.

It's funny that we're nine minutes into this documentary and already we have two people. One an incidental figure and the other literally the main person in the documentary who have since gone entirely against Alex Jones and what he's up to. And one of them has tried to get Trump impeached and the other got sued for libel for calling Melania Hayan prostitute and wrote blogs before the election calling him aspiring fascist authoritarian. But Joe Rogan's still cool with them. Sure.

Planetary domination of London, New York, Washington, over the rest of the world. It's hard to get people to join that or think they have a part in it if you call it the Anglo-American world empire. If you call it the New World Order, then people in India or someplace like that or the European Union might think... Or Hulk Hogan. There's nothing in that for us too. I just want to stop.

I don't have anything to say about that, except that's fucking stupid. Yeah, that's not what it is. It's the Anglo-American New World Order. It's really the old world order. It's the British Empire morphing into the American Empire, the U.S. British World Empire is his... Doesn't Alex talk all the time about how he wants the West to take over? Somewhat.

Or at least the West to be what everybody else does. The reason that's stupid is what he's talking about is the idea that they call it the New World Order instead of the Anglo-American establishment world order or whatever, so they can convince people in India to go along with it. I don't know what that means to the people in charge in India, like the powers that be there. Because he's not talking about getting Indian citizens to go along with it, he's talking about the would-be oligarchs in India to go along with it.

I don't think they would care too much if it was called the Anglo-American... Whatever the name of it is, if they're involved in it in a power position, it doesn't fucking matter. Right? Because now it's the Anglo-American Indian order. Right. If they get in. Yeah.

So he's arguing that all globalists then have to be from Anglo-American. Well, secretly. There can't be any global globalists, there can only be white globalists. There's fundamental problems like this that come up, and I don't know how to square it. We need to get Xi Jinping on board with the Anglo-American New World Order. Bingo. What you're going to get? Combines of powerful men have always battled with each other over the levers of power.

That may be true as an isolated sentence. Gerald Selinty is recognized as one of the world's almost trans forecast. Your buddies. And as the founder of the Trans-Porsche Institute. People that are knowledgeable know that the fight that this country has been waging since its inception is for the central bankers not to take over the country. This is so funny, because if you're not watching the video of this, or haven't seen the video, Gerald Selinty can't figure out what camera to talk to.

So he's just shifting. It's the one with the red light, dude. The one with the red light. Gerald. Both cameras that they're showing just involve him moving his head back and forth. He is not looking at the camera. It's awesome. So we've run into Selinty a number of times on our coverage of Alex Jones' show, but

we've never really done a dive into his history, like who he is, or that of his business, the Trends Research Institute. And now, since he's the other main protagonist of this documentary, a lot of questions are bleak. Protagonist is strong. In heavy quotes. Yeah. It seems like a good time to go ahead and look into him a little bit.

First thing that's really funny about Gerald Selinty being one of Alex's go-to guys. He's been dead for 25 years. He's a ghost. He's a ghost. Ghost old Selinty. So the thing that's funny about him being one of Alex's main dudes comes right from his own bio. Quote, while Selinty holds a U.S. passport, he considers himself a citizen of the world.

Sounds mighty globalist to me. So we know Gerald Selinty is a guy who'll appear in Linda Alex's show, a little dramatic flair with his expert delivery and cranky old man energy. We also know that he existed on the show almost exclusively to help Ted Anderson sell gold as he would constantly warn the audience that the dollar was about to completely be devalued and anyone expecting to survive needed to buy gold. Also Rubik's cubes are coming back. It's a new trend.

Trend forecast. He constantly warned every year that the upcoming summer would be the summer of rage. He'd do that every year. We've seen it over and over again on Alex's show. In his trend journal in June 2015, he speculated that it was possible that gold would soon be trading at $20,000 an ounce and would definitely be above $2,000 in the very near future. At the time of his writing, gold is trading around $1,200 an ounce and would never reach higher than $1,300 an ounce all the way up to present day where it's trading again right

around $1,200 an ounce. But Selinty hasn't just been wrong consistently about gold prices and the dollar. That's the only trend he's right about being wrong all the time. Yeah, if he predicted, I'm going to be fucking right off all the time. Then I'd be like, you were right on about it. He was also wrong about the dollar's imminent demise for over a decade. But he's also been wrong about some more fun things. Researching this topic in particular was really difficult because Selinty or his employees

edit his website constantly to remove failed predictions. And I love that. And beyond that, I love that. And beyond that, he constantly puts out, quote, revised trend forecasts in the middle of the year in order to fudge what he said in January if he needs to. And then beyond that, I'm not going to pay him like, I think it's $100 a year to get access to his journal. Right.

I'm not going to pay that for a quarterly fucking journal of wrong things. That is like a weatherman giving yesterday's news. Oh, the revised trend forecast. Or like Courtney Brown at the Remote Viewing Institute. Whenever he like, they make predictions and then the next month, they're like, oh, that's what that prediction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's kind of cheating. All right, dude.

But even though it was really difficult, I was man, I was able to find a couple really fun predictions that Gerald Selenty has made over the years that were fucking so far off. In 1999, he told the San Francisco Chronicle, quote, unless you're going to have some kind of mystical ancient Chinese power from drinking it, bubble tea is not going anywhere. Mildly racist, a little bit, but in 2016, the bubble tea market was valued at $1.9 billion with projections that it'll grow to approximately 3.2 billion by 2023. Of course.

The U.S. bubble tea market represents over half of that. So he was pretty far off on bubble tea. Yep. Yep. As the year 2000, how about Greek yogurt? How did he, how did he fare there? Hates it. Unless you're going to get some Zeus powers from this yogurt's out.

Just pick any regional food and then throw a borderline offensive comment in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As the year 2000 rang in, he told Psychology Today, quote, voluntary simplicity. Once merely a counterculture ideal will finally become a reality in the 21st century. Moderation, self-discipline and spiritual growth will be the personal goals of the future, not material accumulation. That is the worst trend forecast I have ever heard in my entire fucking life. That was in 2000.

And like, I just like to remind everyone how huge reality TV got in the immediate ensuing few years. Materialism became like, like that song grills came out. Anyway, somebody's ride, somebody's ride got pimped. Yeah. But oh, and some people's trucks got tricked. Hell yeah, they did. So that was another one that's not, not so great.

Also from that Psychology Today article, quote, somewhere around the year 2000, the revelation and revolution will come. The lawn exclamation point. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? What? Hold on. What? The lawn?

Yeah, your lawn. The lawn. Yeah, your front lawn. Your front lawn. What about it? Lawns are everywhere. I wrote this out and I didn't even, I wasn't even ready to say that. That's hilarious.

Lawns are. Lawns are everywhere. Millions of costly, intensively cared for suburban lawns have been doing nothing but growing grass. But a lawn that's turned into a vegetable patch can produce fresh fruit. The trend to convert lawns into gardens will have a significant impact not only on the way we eat, but also the way we live and feel. My comment on that, ah, yes, we all know how many of us have lawns.

You drive around the city or the suburbs. You see, you can't see anything but lawns. Nothing but mini farms. So many mini farms. Front yard. And everybody's trying to shut down your community garden, though. Oh, dude, when you're in a suburb, you know, you're driving around and everybody's like, oh my God, look at that great tomato patch.

Doesn't, that prediction. I call this section of your notes the salenty deception. The salenty, the salenty misconception. So he goes on in this article to demonstrate just how out of touch he is with, let's call it trends. Quote, just as rock and roll replace swing and ragtime music. This is, this is a dude looking out his window or watching TV, being like, oh, I've seen a lawn before.

Let me make a trend prediction on that. I want to hear him say these things because they sound so cranky. And I know his voice is so awesome that I just want to hear him talk about fucking rock and roll, replacing lawns. They're everywhere. I miss the good old days of ragtime. So. Joplin, Scott Joplin, he had it.

Doesn't mean a thing. If it ain't got that swing, so quote, just as rock and roll replace swing and ragtime music, a new genre of millennial millennium music will emerge. Yes, it will be upbeat without the anger and despair of today's cutting edge, rock and rap. Oh boy, man. Gerald, Gerald, Gerald, Gerald. How old was he when he was making these predictions 18 years ago?

I think he's 70 something now. So I mean, it would have been in his fifties. So he's, he's a mid fifties white dude being like, eh, I know what music is going to turn into. Yeah, I got my finger on the pulse. Ah, yeah. So pretty much all of Salenty's trend predictions are little more than vague pronouncements, which are often wrong and ultimately based on little more than

his guesses. Deer are in forests for now. In the book, invest in yourself. The authors asked Salenty how he makes his predictions, to which he replied that basically what he does is every day he reads two newspapers and then finds connections between stories that may or may not actually exist. That's how he makes his predictions. He said that in a book.

So he throws darts at a newspaper, just reads the newspaper. It's like, ah, he holds a newspaper up on his wall, throws a dart, reads the article, reads the other article in the newspaper. And he's like, music's going to be different. Yeah. So he's a terrible predictor of stuff. Um, he's made a couple of correct predictions that if you really look at what he said, we're like, that's, that's right.

But boy, that's vague. You didn't mean you didn't mean, yeah. He's gotten a lot of traffic, uh, and, and, uh, sort of credibility out of like one prediction he made in like 1987. Um, it's not great. But what month of May, a child will be born named Jordan. He might have been the one who prophesied my birth. He's not good with trends and predictions.

But what he is good at doing is being dramatic and adding like that sort of flair and sheepdogging people into buying gold because he creates panics all the time. He tries to create and instill fear, which is why he's perfect as someone to have around for someone who works for a guy who sells gold. Right. He's perfect. Yeah. Anyway, Gerald.

And that's why people like Andrew Jackson were elected. And that's why people revere people like Thomas Jefferson and others. In case anybody is wondering right now, purchase a DVD copy of the Obama deception at info wars.com is running along the bottom of the screen. Attempted to assassinate President Andrew Jackson on multiple occasions. Yeah. Cause he needed to be assassinated against a private central bank being shot up in the United States.

No, cause he was a fucking lunatic. Well, there's a lot to go into here talking about Andrew Jackson. Oh, that's right. You were, you told me before we did this that you were going to teach me some things about Andrew Jackson. At least one thing. I'm excited. So it's a commonly held myth among the.

Add it to the bit. Among the anti-tax, anti-government crowd. They all believe that Andrew Jackson is a hero who is working hard to wrestle control over America away from the evil central bank. Also a hero to the giant cheese wheel crowd. That's true. He was a huge, huge hero there. I think it's really important though, to take a look back and actually look at

the influence that Andrew Jackson had with visa v central banking, because it's not the story that Alex Jones and his community tell at all. The biggest thing that Jackson did is he ended the charter for the second bank of the United States after he was elected in 19, sorry, 1832. He did establish the charter for the fifth third bank though. That's true. And it's a, I was about to quote Matt Riggs's bit about how we need to start a movement to reduce that fraction.

So in 1932, that's what he did. He ended the charter for the second bank of the United States. That's technically ending a central bank, but it's not like he conquered the bank. The second bank was established after the war of 1812 left the United States in a precarious financial situation. Inflation was through the roof as the myriad private banks printed up tons of money that made all of the money increasingly worthless. Like you just had all of these banks producing their own currency that was

different than each other. And you ended up in a situation where they needed to create this centralized bank in order to fight back this inflationary effect. It's almost like everything that Alex has ever advocated for has a historical precedent that went terribly wrong. Sure. So in 1812, President Madison founded the central, the second bank of the United States, specifically with a charter for it to last 20 years.

When Jackson was elected, it was the end of the bank's charter. And all he did was not renew the charter, despite overwhelming public support and support of the Congress for the bank. After he did this, Jackson pushed for the removal of government funds from the second bank, which he succeeded in carrying out. These funds were specifically placed in his favored quote, pet banks, state banks that were known to be loyal to the Jackson administration. In 1836, the federal bank ceased to exist and became the state bank of Pennsylvania.

Historian James Scholar noted, quote, by 1834, there were some 500 or more local banks in the United States whose aggregate circuit circulation was several times greater than that of the monster bank, which Jackson's pack was running down. And as clear observers noted, the coexistence of half a thousand distinct currencies in this country was a great deficit or defect of its financial system. The Jackson administration was deeply opposed to regulation. So did little in any way to manage the economy, which was what those in favor of

the second bank were advocating him do. And in his deregulatory laissez-faire attitude towards everything, all of these competing currencies came up and created a mass chaos. And, uh, you know, these people who said that he should be working on controlling the economy weren't doing that just for their health. Historian HW Brands explains the situation that rose out in terms of monetary issues. Quote, it got worse, primarily as a result of Jackson's war against the bank of the United States freed from the restraints of Biddle's bank.

That's a guy who ran the second bank, the United States free from the restraints. Biddle's bank had imposed the state banks issued notes by the basket full. These fueled the rampant speculation in every kind of commodity. Jackson couldn't do much about the speculation overall, except worry that it jeopardized the stability of the economy and threatened the welfare of millions of ordinary people on July 11th, 1836. Jackson put out a decree to halt rampant land speculation, declaring that land could only be bought by using gold or silver.

Historian Major L Wilson said, quote, all that did was to make cash poor farmers more dependent on capital rich speculators. It magnified the fraud the president meant to expunge and obliged his loyalists to fight little bank wars in every state of the union. Banks ran low on gold and silver reserves as millions of dollars worth were taken out to be used in land speculation or just privately hoarded, leaving banks vulnerable to calls on deposits. All this led directly to the panic of 1837, where the country was plunged

into a deep recession that lasted until the mid 1840s, during which time unemployment reached over 20% in many areas. Andrew Jackson was a really stupid president and his actions destroyed the economy for years. Also a really dumb point. Alex yells all the time about the Democrats being the party of the KKK and how Lincoln was a Republican and all this stuff. So they're the ones who are really the cool ones of the racial tip by that same

logic and ignoring how parties have completely changed. You could make the argument that Democrats are the party that broke up banks. That's Andrew Jackson was a Democrat. Yeah. Anyway, he almost destroyed the entire economy through his stupid and short-sighted and petty actions against the second bank. Yeah, he is he is one of if not the worst. I mean, Andrew Johnson was it's Andrews. It's two Andrews in the running for a worst president in history.

I will tell you that right now. But the cool thing about Andrew Jackson, a giant cheese wheel. Sure. Giant cheese. We can't take that away. Left it out in the swamp for weeks. Giant cheese wheel on the White House. Hell yeah. So in terms of like the idea that he worked against the banks or the centralized

bank, I mean, that's true in as much as he was opposed to renewing the charter of the bank that would expire when he came into office. Right. But the consequences of his actions are clearly born out through history. And in many ways, you could say that nobody proves the need for those banks more than the guy who tried to destroy them. Oh, sure. And the history before the 1913 creation of the Federal Reserve and the history

after. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, Alex is also saying that there were multiple bank agents that tried to assassinate Andrew Jackson because of this. Yeah, that isn't true. No, a bunch of people tried to kill him, though, for very good reasons. One guy did. Yeah, but he beat the shit out of it.

There's one guy who attempted to assassinate Andrew Jackson in a legitimate way. It's my favorite story. I love that story. I'm about to tell it. It's so good to tell that story. The other instance was a minor fight that Jackson got into and he declined to press charges over after the fact that said the legitimate assassination attempt was 100% not done by agents of the central bank.

It was done by a very interesting crazy dude named Richard Lawrence, who would go on to kill John Lennon. Lawrence was born in England, which I guess must be proved that he's an agent of the Crown. Yeah, he moved to Virginia at age 12. And as he grew up, he found work as a house painter. A lot of people have researched Lawrence theorized that the lead and other chemicals in the paints of the day probably contributed to his mental

decline as he reached the age of 30 and on in 1932 to 33. He started to tell his family that he was going back to England only to return a month later, generally with a fanciful story, but how he couldn't go. The first time he complained, it was too cold to sail to England. So he just came back. The second time the story was much more troubling. He'd been in Philadelphia for a bit. And when he returned, he claimed that the U.S.

government didn't approve of him going to England and that he had read several articles in the Philadelphia newspaper that were, quote, critical of his travel plans and character. Richard quit his job. And when his family asked how he was going to afford to live, he told them that he was Richard III, the King of England, who had died 380 years earlier. Oh boy, not great. But it turns out that when you're the long dead King of England, money ain't an

issue. That is true. You just got buckets full of cash. I don't understand how that would not make money an issue still. No, man. You got, you got estates. You got the states that you own. Right. But you're long dead.

No, but you still own it. Oh, okay. I didn't know that you can just send a letter. Here's where things get interesting. Because Richard Lawrence believed he was Richard III, he also believed that he owned multiple estates in England. Right. For reasons that aren't entirely clear.

He also came to believe that Andrew Jackson's vetoing of the second bank of the United States made it impossible for him to collect monies. He was owed on the estates. He reasoned that if he killed Jackson, Martin Van Buren would become president. He'd set up a central bank and just like that, he gets all of his English estate money. Boom. So that's the reasoning that he used.

And that's what Alex is going off with. I am finding with that. He's an agent of the central banks. At this point, Richard started dressing up like British royalty. At times he would fall into severe laughing or cursing fits. And the trend of him verbally and physically assaulting his sisters began to appear, which is always there. Always there.

The assassination attempt itself is a story that people are much more familiar with. Richard approached Jackson at the US Capitol. He pulled out his pistol. It didn't fire. Pulled out his back backup pistol. It also didn't fire as he didn't have a third pistol. This gave way to Andrew Jackson beating Richard III with his cane. Richard was then tackled by the crowd, which included Davey Crockett.

That's right. It did include Davey Crockett. I always forget about that. Man of the wild frontier. I always forget that Davey Crockett was somehow there. Yeah, he would go on to face trial. Crockett was like the forest gump of that era. Like he's just fucking everywhere.

He would go on to face trial where the prosecuting attorney was none other than Francis Scott Key, who mere years earlier had written the Star Spangled Banner. Richard was found innocent by virtue of insanity and locked up in an asylum till his death 26 years later. In the aftermath of the assassination attempt with people trying desperately to find a reason for it, rumors spread that he was working for the proponents of the second bank of the United States, a theory that

literally had no proof, no backing in evidence at all. In a move that would be mirrored by at least one president I can think of, Andrew Jackson encouraged these conspiracy theories as it helped make him look heroic and demonized his enemies. So it was a crazy dude, not an agent of the bank. And you're actually talking about Andrew Jackson. Yeah, he's a crazy dude. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that fucking guy. I'm sorry to tell you a story that you already know. I feel like no, that's my favorite story. It's a great story. I could hear that story a million times. I felt like, you know what it is on this show, your reactions are so

like sincere and in the moment that you weren't surprised by any of that information and it disappointed me. I mean, it's a bummer because you weren't responding to new information or novelty, so you weren't as delighted. Do you know what frustrates me? I think it was like at least a couple of years ago, a friend of the show, Matt Drafki, sent me this video of somebody who had done, essentially, my Andrew Jackson bit on his album.

Oh, no. And yeah, yeah, yeah. That's terrible. We hadn't met. I think it was, I don't think he stole it from me or anything like that. But he does the final line he does is line for line what I say, which is that for once, the Secret Service didn't keep the president from being assassinated.

They kept the president from assassinating a man. Right. And I was so mad because that was a good line and that dude stole and he put it on an album. He didn't steal it, but he's, he's got it. Yeah, he put it on an album. I can't even say that line anymore. It's frustrating.

Need a new X. It's bullshit. So is. I'm going to get a puppet. Oh, that's my plan. Oh, Gerald Salanti puppet. Oh, yeah. And it was something that Abraham Lincoln was music is going to be played by

Mike's why I believe he was assassinated. Okay. This is the Lincoln quote. The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and Abraham buyer against it in times of adversity is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. I see in the near future, a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.

Corporations have been enthroned. An era of corruption will follow and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign. Picture Tim Geithner who can also go fuck himself and Greenspan and Greenspan who can also go fuck himself. Aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. Wall Street has killed Main Street. So that's definitely didn't have anything to do with slavery.

Salanti. Well, that's that's Salanti's argument for why Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. Yeah, it definitely didn't have anything to do with that quote. Yeah, led to his assassination. Yeah, that's a fake quote. No shit. God damn it.

Totally fake quote. Fuck you, Salanti. In all of Abraham's collected, Abraham Lincoln's collected works and writings, you can't find that quote because it's fake. It didn't appear until 20 years after Lincoln's death during the 1896 presidential election. So why did someone release a bogus letter about nefarious forces trying to meddle in the economy during the 1896 election?

It's hard to say for sure. But one pretty strong guess is that the gold standard was one of the top issues in that election and Williams Jenning Bryan was running as the Democratic nominee and it just delivered his cross of gold speech at the Democratic National Convention. It makes sense that this would be an issue that would come back up in terms of and everybody likes to try and take historical heroes and pretend they said things that were predicted or supported their cause or historical

villains. Hitler said that, but in the past, we've seen Alex Jones and his crew use completely fabricated quotes on a regular basis. Almost everything in endgame was fake quotes. Yeah, like it was nonsense. That's definitely not according to in Carter. That's definitely in their repertoire, but in this case, they might have a slightly better argument than in past cases.

They just don't know. Well, yeah, because in 1950, Archer H. Shaw released the Lincoln encyclopedia, which purported to be a one stop shop for all things Lincoln. Yeah, the problem is that he didn't do his due diligence in terms of authenticating things he put in the encyclopedia. He includes the letter that this quote comes from in that encyclopedia, a letter supposedly to Colonel William F. Elkins, but historians and researchers have clearly determined that that letter was a forgery.

It was far from the only example of the lack of completionism in his book. And thus it's not seen as a well put together resource for information. But I could see Gerald Salento or Alex seeing that book called the Lincoln encyclopedia and assuming everything in it was unquestionably true and not taking any further steps of research. So I think that that's what they did here. And I would say that you get half credit for that. You're still wrong.

Yeah, but a lot of people still think the Bible is true. Sure, sure. Whatever. I get where you're coming from. You're not, you're not active. You're not an active participant in making this up, but you've been fooled by a fake quote. Yeah.

So congratulations. Congratulations. You're not evil. You've just been taken in. And I'm not a trans forecaster. No, but I predict that's not going to be the first time I use a quote in this documentary. I think it's going to happen a bit.

So I know how unpopular it is to be seen as helping banks right now. We just had a shot of Joe Lieberman chewing. That is a good shot, though, suffering in part from their bad decisions. I promise you, I get it. Up until about I don't think he did. That's one thing I don't think he did get. The United States is a very seemed to get for world progress. It's the assassinations, the Kennedy assassination, and the others in the 1960s,

the beginning of the Vietnam War. Yeah, we're going to mention the Kennedy one, not the others. Other ones, you know, the whatever assassinations happened, except the Wall Street Money Masters. That has now made the United States into no longer a force for progress, but something very different, often a force for destruction in the world. The military industrial complex has taken over the country along with the Wall Street gang.

If you look also at the people that Obama has put on his appointments list, it's all Wall Street. It's government of Wall Street by Wall Street and for Wall Street. Not wrong. Nobody from not wrong is wrong. Well, I mean, he's not. Look, nobody from Silicon Valley, nobody from big oil, okay? Well, yeah, defense, no labor, no, no retirees, no small business, nothing.

It's pure Wall Street. The only people who have a voice in Obama's councils are Wall Street finance oligarchs. That's all there is. Nobody else counts for anything under Obama. It's the most extreme Wall Street administration we've ever had. Oh, that's not true. So sorry, I spoke too soon.

Yeah, I spoke too soon. He added a whole lot of other bullshit in there. It's important to recognize like I'm only when I did a lot of this research, I specifically use the information that would be available to them at this point. Right. With the exception of the isn't it funny that he got sued by Melania Trump in the future? That is, you know, stuff like that.

That is, but when they're making substantive claims, I tried to limit myself to what would have been available before March 2000 in order to give them a fair shake, which they do not deserve. I think it just gives us better context. So Webster Tarpley here is saying that, you know, all of these things about there's no labor, no automotive or any of that stuff, it's all Wall Street. Right. Right.

So I decided to take each of these claims one by one and look into them and see what there, if there was any truth to it. Cool. So his first claim there in that laundry list was there's nobody from heavy industry. Heavy industry is a pretty rangy term that usually means steel mills, that sort of thing. Yeah. Businesses that are in heavy industries are also often involved in defense contracts and aerospace work.

Right. In February 2009, Obama appointed Ron Bloom as the senior advisor to the secretary of the treasury. Previously, Ron Bloom had been in both the arenas of labor relations and steel business because he was the special assistant to the president of United Steel Workers. So that one doesn't seem to be true. He seems to have a representative of heavy industry in there, at least one.

So I know that that claim is substantively not true. He said to that there's nobody from the auto sector. That one might be accurate, but it does seem like Obama didn't, you know, it doesn't seem like I can't find any auto executives in his cabinet or important advisors early on. Which considering where they were at the time, probably a good idea. Yeah, I mean, he was probably a smart move when he was coming into office. General Motors and Chrysler were both facing bankruptcy and needed to be

bailed out by the government. So maybe it wasn't the time to have auto executives being given advisory position. You know what I need? Bad ideas. I mean, I get that. I don't know that one. I'm going to give him like with, you know, this. You got a kernel.

You got a kernel. Yeah, yeah, so three, there's nobody from big oil. This one makes no sense just on a basic level. Also, we don't want anybody from big oil. Alex's whole thing is that oil companies are secretly owned by the Rockefellers and the Queens of England and Denmark. So I have no idea why he would someone in an Alex Jones documentary be complaining that big oil doesn't have a seat at Obama's table.

It honestly feels like it would be something Alex would brag about if it wasn't Obama, you know, but anyway, I'm not sure what the line is for what counts as big oil, but Defense Secretary Robert Gates formerly worked for Parker drilling, which is a company involved in offshore oil rigs. So one doesn't really seem true. Also, National Security Advisor James L. Jones is on the board of directors for Chevron before he was in the administration. So boom, there's nobody from defense.

That's his other claim. His next one, that's ludicrous. The aforementioned Robert Gates was the secretary of defense under George W. Bush, whether you agree with him or not about how he does his job, which I don't. It's flat out dishonest to say that there's nobody with experience in defense. You know, they claim about Gates a lot in this documentary, but here's tarply pretending Obama doesn't have anyone from defense in his cabinet. By the way, he specifically allowed Gates to stay on in order to give

that appearance of continuity within that situation because the things that Gates was involved in weren't, didn't come to fruition. Exactly. Yeah. So then he says that there's nobody from labor. The aforementioned Ron Bloom at a previous career in labor unions at United Steel Workers. Obama's secretary of labor, Hilda Solis, had a career in the house of representatives that was full of sponsoring and supporting labor-friendly legislation.

She was the only member of Congress on the board of the American Rights to Work, a pro-union organization that she'd been involved in for years. From her time in the house, she received a consistent 100% rating from pro-labor groups. So that one's bullshit too. He said, there's no women. That's flagrantly false. To wit, there was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, EPA Director Lisa Jackson,

Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, UN Ambassador Susan Rice, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, and that's not even a complete list. This is just another example of Webster Tarply talking shit. This is nothing. There's no retirees. I'm going to punt on this one. There shouldn't be.

They're retired. I don't think it's necessarily one of the trademark signs of a healthy administration that there's a guy who came out of retirement. I don't know. Also, I don't want anyone who, I don't want those people there. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't want anybody who's not invested in the future there. Yeah.

So, um, he also said there's no small business. I don't know exactly what your definition of small business is. This, again, is something that I'm not sure I can really nail down. So I'm kind of going to leave. I think it means like somebody who, like an entrepreneur who built their own business. But there's tons of lawyers in his cabinet and a lot of them preconceivably had to go through the process of setting up their own private practice. And that's kind of the same thing as running a small business.

Maybe not always exactly the same. No, if you've seen billboards, it's pretty similar. So I'm going to go ahead and go with that. Also, Trump's small business administrator is Linda McMahon, owner of the WWE, who just got paid millions of dollars to put on a show for the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia after he was implicated in the murder and dismemberment of a Washington Post journalist critical of the Saudi government. So I'm implicated, implicated is a nice, nice word there.

I'm not sure anyone's small business record is spotless is what I'm saying here. Yeah. Um, and says there's no Silicon Valley. Obama's deputy chief technology officer, Andrew McLaughlin was a former executive at Google Obama's director of the office of social innovation and civic participation. So, uh, Sonal Shah was formerly the head of global development initiatives. The philanthropy section of, uh, Google, there's almost certainly other examples,

but that should be proof enough that this claim is also not true. Yeah. So his claim that Obama's administration is pure wall street and that no one else has a voice that's not even close to true. He's really just talking about Geithner. And also the people who actually have involvement in wall street, or there weren't that many, there are only like three or four people that you can make an argument out of the 22 cabinet positions that are the official cabinet, right?

That have any real, uh, history in, uh, in, in wall street, strange how many of them would go on to have history in wall street? Well, sure, sure. Um, so I'm not, I'm not disputing you. I'm just being a dick. Right. Right. But I mean, you look at, you look at other other administrations, you look at

like Trump's administration, you had, you know, Steve Mnuchin, Gary Cohn and James Donovan, who are all Goldman Sachs executives who had positions that were specifically in areas that had to do with, uh, you know, the financial sector. You look at, uh, George W, uh, W Bush, he had people from wall street in his, this is not really, I mean, sure, we could all be idealistic and say like, Oh, it'd be great if there wasn't anybody in there. Yeah. But to say that that's some sort of a, the most aggressively wall street cabinet

ever is, is ludicrous. Yeah. But anyway, Webster Tarpoli doesn't know shit. No, Webster Tarpoli. He's just making stuff up. Anyway, go ahead. He knows when fascism is coming. Sure.

Apparently. That's nice. He knows whenever he's, uh, had a part in the onslaught of fascism. And now I will play Eminem song, Guilty Conscience. Hell yeah. Yeah. I think it might be a more part of it. So anyway, that's a nonsense.

So we are 12 minutes and 54 seconds in. Let's roll. Before his death, President Woodrow Wilson apologized to the public, regretting that he had been deceived by a group of international bankers and the country's financial system had fallen into their iron grip. He had so much more to apologize for. Woodrow Wilson was one of the biggest piece of shit presidents there's ever been.

That's also not true. Uh, he didn't, he didn't apologize. Yeah. I can't imagine. I can't imagine him apologizing for fucking anything. The quote that Alex and all of his anti federal reserve propagandists, uh, point to justify that sort of a claim in that narrative is as follows. Quote, our great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.

Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men who, if their actions be honest and intended for the public interest, are necessarily concentrated upon the great undertakings in which their own money is involved and who necessarily by reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy the genuine economic freedom. We've come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world, no longer a government

by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction in the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small group of dominant men. That's the quote that Alex is using to justify this argument that Woodrow Wilson apologized just before his death about what he had done to create the federal reserve. Problem with this is that this is a mishmash of two paragraphs of Woodrow Wilson's writing combined to give the impression that this was what he was

saying. The first paragraph comes from a speech that he gave at the Democratic Club in Harrisburg, PA on June 15th, 1911. And the other was from a book he wrote called The New Freedom, which is published in 1913. Both of these passages were written before the Federal Reserve was created in December 1913 and have nothing to do with the effects of the Fed. The way Alex Jones is presenting this information is demonstrably fraudulent.

Anyway, the deceitful interpretation of Wilson's words began making the rounds in the 1950s as the Cold War got moving in anti-communist propagandists like Alex Jones' spiritual godfathers, what have you, became a sentiment. So the philoshlafflies of the world, you know, the John Burt society were coming into form and this narrative was crafted as part of their story that Woodrow Wilson regretted creating the Federal Reserve when it couldn't have been since he said the things before the Federal Reserve existed. Jesus.

Also, also Woodrow Wilson forced everybody who was black, who worked in the White House to hide whenever he walked by. Yeah, he was not a good dude. Woodrow Wilson was a giant piece of shit, a giant piece of shit. He wasn't as bad a president as Andrew Johnson or Andrew Jackson, but as far as a personal human being, he was a giant piece of shit. He's no Andrew. He's no Andrew.

Yeah. He's a Woodrow. You've got to give him that. Yeah. So I would say that just in terms of this is, is, is bullshit. There's a lot of that's all, that's all I'm interested in. I know I know he's the most racist president since the Civil War. You mean Lincoln?

Yeah, I don't, I think that those are all important points. I think they're very worth pointing the finger at that, that dickhole for. Yeah. But in terms of Alex's claims, all that's important is that Alex is just regurgitating two passages Frankenstein monster together by 1950s anti communist propagandists. Yeah. It doesn't reflect reality has nothing to do with the Federal Reserve.

Good work, dude. Thanks. Oh, you weren't saying that to me. No, I was saying that to Alex. I know a good work to you. I'm sorry. Now I feel like an asshole. I do think you did good work.

Who are you? Woodrow Wilson? Oh, God damn it. I'm going to hide it. Okay. I expect all white people to hide from me whenever I walk by. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist to white the Eisenhower.

Oh, I want to hear you lie about him that the military industrial complex was taking over the country. Only three years after leaving office, President Eisenhower's prophetic warning concerning the threat posed to our system of government by the military industrial complex came to pass. What happened to John F. Kennedy had enraged the entire elite network. Uh-oh.

Now, what happened in as somebody who was expected to be a puppet? It was thought that you pop it. Me. Pop pro-Nazi, you know, Joseph P. Kennedy, he was actually one of the meat puppets speculator would guarantee that Kennedy would be obedient to the establishment. They thought that Kennedy was a sex maniac who could be manipulated through all of this.

He was a sex maniac. You just like to fuck. Who doesn't know he had a bad back, which went beyond just being a maniac. Think about the economic recovery, world peace, having a space program, making deals. Space programs started before him. What about the secret space program? It doesn't exist.

And the whole series about the things. Executive order number 1110, signed by President Kennedy, began the process of abolishing the private Federal Reserve. What's that mean in binary? He was also pushing for real civil rights reform and had begun the process of pulling the trips out of Vietnam. So real quick, Alex is trying to imply that the reason that Kennedy was assassinated was because he signed this executive order 11110 that would begin

the process of eliminating the Federal Reserve. Now, that executive order wouldn't have abolished the Federal Reserve. And in fact, it's a fantastic example of how stupid Alex Jones is, even about the topic he's made, his bread and butter. Frankly, this is just another example of Alex parroting conspiracy theories that others have promulgated and pretending he knows what he's talking about. In this case, he's just repeating things that were written in Jim Marr's conspiracy theory book, Crossfire.

To explain executive order 11110, I first need to explain to you public law 88-36, which is what the executive order exists to be a compliment to. In 1961, President Kennedy realized that the demand for silver to be used as an industrial as an industrial metal was increasing at a rate that made its value far greater than the price it enjoyed as a currency. Emerging markets like microchips, nuclear reactors, medical applications and semiconductors were all boosting silver, which led to an approximately 80% drop in the United States excess silver reserves.

Noticing that this could be a problem, Kennedy called on Congress to act. Quote, I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function. I recommend authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations of $1 so as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and the use of silver. Thus, released from coinage purposes, I urge the Congress to take prompt

action on these recommended changes. So what do you think about that? What do you think about that quote? So that's the quote they used to say that he was trying to destroy the Fred? That's the quote that he used to urge Congress to enact public law 8836, which was passed. So if you, if you shut down silver as a currency, then the Federal Reserve disappears?

No, no, Alex is just making shit up. This is just a coincidence, to some extent. And it actually is so much worse for his argument than he actually thinks. Yeah, I was going to say, no one to look into this, isn't he? Isn't that, isn't that only reinforcing the, the, the power of paper currency? Yeah. So in response, Congress passed HR 5389 in 1963 with large majorities in the House and Senate.

This will go on to become public law 8836, the main effect of which was repealing the Silver Purchase Act of 1934. After public law 8836, the government signaled a shift away from silver and towards Federal Reserve notes. One of the elements of this whole thing was granting the Federal Reserve the authority to issue one and two dollar bills. One dollar bills were originally released in 1928 as silver certificates, hence the silver dollar.

But after JFK passed this public law and the ensuing executive order, the Federal Reserve actually expanded its responsibilities as far as issuing currency is concerned. All the executive order did was allow the Treasury Department to issue silver certificates in the interim period while the transition was happening. Alex's theory relies on the idea that executive order 11110 was an attempt by JFK to take the power to print money away from the Federal Reserve and give that power to the Treasury, but a closer look at the order itself,

as well as the context surrounding it, make it clear that that's the opposite of what it did. There's no way these acts could justify an argument that the Federal Reserve was mad at JFK about this. It's nonsense. That's crazy. It's complete bullshit. Now, I have had a great idea and this is going to free us from having to deal

with Alex quoting subsections as though he knows what he's talking about. I like that. All right. And it's all because of 11110. We have to name all bills in binary. I, okay. So you could just say the name or whatever it translates to. No.

So you have to say it in binary. So HR like HR 896 would then be like HR 11111001001001001001. Resolution. I am a robot. Yeah, exactly. And that way Alex, anytime Alex is like, well, have you heard about HR 1100? You can just be like, ah, you can stop. I don't give a fuck.

That would be really hard to like track down. You know, you just get really confused with all the, you know what you do? What? Barcodes. So Alex also said there that JFK was, uh, you know, trying to remove the troops from Vietnam. Yeah, he was not, he did make overtures towards, uh, intending to remove troops from Vietnam, but the time he was in office off 500% increase in troops that

were in Vietnam, he did take some people, you know, he did withdraw some troops, but the, uh, the overall number expanded greatly during his time in office. So I mean, I don't see that as a good argument. And then also he says there that he was trying to make real civil rights change. And I don't know what that means. Yeah, what's he? Somewhat, but I don't know what real civil rights means. Real civil rights.

I don't know what that means. Real civil rights. I honestly don't know what that means. Real civil rights change. It's a problem. No, but like real civil rights. I don't understand what that means. No, but like real one.

Real. Yeah. Like real. What is Alex Define as real civil rights change? Not just this laziness, like, oh, let's give black people the right to vote or whatever it is. Very lazy. Yeah.

That, not this bullshit, like, oh, let's protect them under the equal rights cost. Right, right, right. No, no, no. What it is real civil rights change is making sure white people are good forever. Right, right, right. That's real civil rights.

Real civil change is allowing states to not be a part of it. So you can have fundamentally, systematically racist states bordering states that treat everyone like people. Exactly. Love that idea. Real civil rights change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome.

Anyway. The last time you had an actual president was Kennedy. The oligarch took swift and decisive action. The fuck is he talking about? Later, Alex and his voiceover will say that the last, or every president since FDR has been controlled by these globalists. So if you use those two things, like. Also, what's a real president?

I mean, does he mean like not controlled by? Not controlled by the definitely not Jews bankers. Yeah, that's what he's saying. All right. The international finance. Now I'm back on the students and idiot again. Well, he walks the line. I think he's a charlatan and but very smart.

I think he is very smart. I mean, you don't get a fucking degree from Princeton, get a Fulbright scholarship to study in Italy and then get a PhD just without some sort of fortitude, right? But maybe he went crazy. That's possible. That's why I want to call him. Next thing you know, everyone's going to be posting messages.

Call Webster Tarpley instead of Larry Nichols. Goddamn it. Excuse me, Mr. Tarpley, Mr. Tarpley, you fucking nuts. Yeah. Okay, cool. You bet.

Click. Try me. That's sort of thing. Anyway, I just think there's an interesting dynamic going on where Webster Tarpley is saying that Kennedy was the last real president. And in Alex's own words later, I guess Coolidge was the last real president. Man, I don't know these. Oh, no, I guess it would be what Hoover Hoover was right before FDR.

I don't know how to make this like there should be some sort of like. I don't know how to get people to talk or think about presidential history without thinking that it centers on one president. Right. You know what I mean? It's so it's so unifocus. Yeah, yeah, like the idea of the solitary executive who's right. Yeah, that doesn't make any fucking sense at all.

And it doesn't even make sense if you take the entire picture of his presidency, which has to take into context the presidency before and then the presidency after like you shouldn't be allowed to to cherry pick history. Like I don't I don't mean it. I don't mean it like this, but some people should have restricted access to history. Maybe. You know what I mean? Like you shouldn't be allowed to say bullshit like this.

Well, you should be you should take responsibility for it when you're wrong and you're just peddling bullshit. Yeah, and if you're going to talk about JFK, like fucking Nixon extended the Vietnam War through a back channel in order to get reelected. He got hundreds of thousands upon thousands of people killed just so he could get reelected. Why aren't you talking about that? Well, this is all fucking insane.

I'm not sure what Tarpley's take on it is, but a lot of people in the like sort of Alex Jones, the intellectual sphere of his like his influences and those people, most of them didn't like Nixon at all either. Right. So like at least there's that they're not Nixon supported. But unfortunately, most of them supported George Wallace. So it's not better. But so at least they didn't like Nixon.

But they wanted segregation. So all right, it's good work, guys. It's good news, bad news. That's what I think. Yeah, I agree. I think I think that there is there is an irresponsibility that people like this do and what the way that they get away with it is they are so nonspecific about what they're talking about that it called to a task for like

saying like the last real president was Kennedy. Like what do you mean? What does that mean? He was real. What does that mean? No, it means like he was he kept it a hundred. Well, sure, because that lack of specificity. It's the same thing with saying that Bush tripled the federal government.

Right. Right. You just you skate by on these these sort of vague notions like that sounds good. And you trick a lot of people. Yeah, that's and in doing so, they accept fraudulent narratives about the past. Yeah. What's the logical fallacy appeal to authority there? I guess that's something along those lines.

That's what you do when you call Webster Tarpley an author in history. Yeah, no kidding. And anyway, here's Jeff Hagen shot. Enjoy it. Also, apparently. So here's here's my favorite part of this. All right. So this is the Zapruder film, right?

But it has prisonplanet.com on the bottom of it. Like they bought like they were the ones who got it. Like they bought the rights. Yeah, exactly. Abraham Zabruder now works for employers. Exactly. Why do you have like, oh, we're licensing this footage from prisonplanet.com. You can only find this one place.

Right. Message to future U.S. presidents and back across the world and to the left. Do as you're told right back and to the left. John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the last thanks for using his full middle name, states, and until the globalist to remove from power, we will never have another real one. Huh. The other thing about the American presidency, you've got to remember,

OK, this is a puppet post puppet. It's automatically going to be me puppet. You pop it. The idea that Obama is somebody who's going to come in and exercise real authority when he's obviously been chosen and given everything that he's got proven, prove it now a little more than corporate take all the first fucking black president. America's history has been given everything.

You know how they do icon. KRS one is not just known for selling millions of albums. He has led a tireless crusade again. It's so funny. Hold on. It's so funny that Alex, you can't go. You can't do that. That's whiplash.

That hurts me. That hurts me. You can't go from Webster Tarpley saying that Obama has been given everything to being like international hip hop star. KRS one. Like, no, no, no, no. You got to ease me into that. And I think it's so funny that like we listened to the episode with KRS one

and Alex keeps calling him KSR one. I like that he at least got his way over together for this. He had to do about six or seven takes on this. Yeah. And youth violence has been a strong voice for human rights. If they controlled it before, what are you? Why don't what makes you think they're not controlling it now? It means nothing.

The country was on a verge of revolution. Shit. They threw a black man up. Now we like this. When he's saying like this, he's got his arms crossed. He's leaning back, crossing his arms. What do you mean we were on the brink of revolution? What does that mean?

You know what? I, I suppose there is something of an argument to be made that had. I would argue there isn't. No, no, no. I mean, had the financial crisis been allowed to grow into the full bone, full blown great depression that it could have become. Right. Had we not passed the stimulus package, which somehow they're against as well.

Right. We'll get into that later. That would have, that would have led to. Maybe. You could, you could say, you could make an argument that that could have led to the revolution. We could imagine a scenario where John McCain gets elected and passes the same bill, not as unlikely as that is.

Right. Amat, if they're all puppets, then he would have done that. Right. You know, like if all puppets of the finance oligarchs and whatever. Yeah, but he's a maverick, Dan. But if they had chosen John McCain and Palin to win, then he would have passed the stimulus bill because that's what the globalists want them to do. The argument is so fucking stupid.

It is nothing. Yeah. Yeah. It's so frustrating because there's no way out of it. There's no way out of the argument. And it's purely speculative. It's like, oh, if this could have happened, then maybe this would have happened. Yeah.

Two months into his presence. Although, although I do like his point. If you, no, no, no, I mean, not, hold on. Got to raise my. Let me, let me, let me continue. By his, you mean KRS one. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. KRS one with the, uh, the election of Obama and everybody kind of leaning back

and just saying, okay, cool. Now we're in good hands. Right. That did lead to the Republicans taking over literally every state government. It did lead to being on the brink of a revolution. Yeah. Well, that's true. So I don't know if you're, um, I don't, maybe KRS one's a better trends forecaster

KRS one's a pretty great trans forecast. He's a bad analogy forecaster. Oh, he's a great, he's a great trend. You would think he'd have better analogies after decades of writing songs. He's really good at writing songs. But that takes a while. He's not just going off the, oh, no, he is a freestyle. Yeah.

And, huh. They give him the money. They give him the bundling. They give him vote fraud. They give him kindling the media whores. They give him goons. They even have elected officials making threats to put people in jail if they criticize Obama in public.

All of this is the mother give him corgis. And that means that he is a puppet. Actually more of a puppet than anybody else. More of a puppet than Mrs. Clinton would have been even more of a puppet than than McCain. He's the maximum puppet that we've had. Max puppet. Since Jimmy Carter.

They put a black face on the new Jimmy Carter was a puppet. I don't care. Can't rest ain't buying it. What kind of historian says Jimmy Carter was a puppet? I honestly don't give a shit. What are we doing? I don't give a shit. What is that?

That should disqualify you from being a historian. Done. Hey. Jimmy Carter was a puppet. Move on. Peanut puppet. Peanut sounds like puppet. Terror puppet babies.

Mr. Puppet would be a wonderful Marionette. You know what I'm saying. Full silence. The president serves the military industrial complex. It's cell phone by the international bankers. This is a very triangle heavy graphic right now. The prime minister or president. The elite stays.

We don't have a prime minister because the public is never aware of who the real enemy is. In France in 1991, standing before the Bilderberg group, the apex of the world government power structure. Sure. David Rockefeller defined the new world order as a system of world government. Pyramid serving the international banking elite.

Globe pyramid around the globe. So Alex is reporting that in a hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Right. You paused it on the perfect graphic. It's a business name because if you if you look at this, this is a perfect snapshot in time. There is a graphic for when the amp.

Oh, sure. And map quest for TV, some Netscape right there. Oh, yeah. It was big to AOL was big. Oh, yeah. Comp you serve. Loving it. So before this graphic came up, Alex was saying and reporting

that it is a secret meeting. David Rockefeller defined the new world order as serving the international banking elite. Sure. It's naturally raises the question of how he's getting this information. If it was said in a secret meeting, I don't know. It should come as no surprise.

Abraham Lincoln wrote it down. Information doesn't come from a recording or an official transcript, right? Even a whistleblower. Right. It comes from Daniel Estolin, who claims that someone told him that Rockefeller said these things. We got deep into Daniel Estolin's sourcing problems back

when we covered endgame. And we learned how one of the people he quotes as an expert on Bilderberg in his book claims to be a space commander with the interplanetary order. So it should be it's be repetitive to go over all that those problems now all over again. Suffice it to say Daniel Estolin is full of shit. And unless this quote can be in any way substantiated, it's

not worth thinking about. Much less building a career on like Alex has now to add himself to injury in that clip. Alex said that it was the 1991 Bilderberg conference in Avion France. The 1991 Bilderberg conference was in Baden-Baden, Germany. The 1992 conference was an Avion Liban. Seems like he should know that.

Yeah, yeah, you know, seems like that's an important detail on a normal documentary. I'd be like, okay, you fucked up. That happens. You should know you should apologize for that. On this documentary, fuck off. What are you doing? Totally, what are you fucking doing?

You're going to make an argument entirely based around the globalist and Bilderberg being the most horrible thing that's ever been and you're going to get your fucking dates wrong. Fuck off. I have specific information about this Bilderberg conference, yet I can't get basic facts right. The secret Bilderberg conference was in 91 though. Fair enough.

Yeah, the secret conference is always where it was last year or where it's going to be the next year. Exactly. Right. But the real conference, they switch off. It's like, it's like the Montreal, Tennessee, never mind. The ATP. I will gladly never mind.

So the ATP and the WTA, they switch locations for the... They're all immediately over the crack anyone, and they're the warning of public, that the dictatorial world government was being constructed right under the line. I love this show. And the national sovereignty was being deliberately destroyed. And now, after years of denial, the media and the elite themselves

are proudly announcing that not only is world government real, but it is the answer to the financial crisis that they carefully engineered. Hey, everybody is Dan. That is where we're going to just have to leave off for today. Today's first episode here. Yeah, I mean, hey, we got a cliffhanger here. Did the media come out and say that the new world order was here?

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Thank you all so much. Since I'm just doing a little bumper here, I don't have anybody to reference who hasn't killed anybody. I'm the only person sitting in this room. I haven't killed anybody, but I know one guy who has. Technically, theoretically has killed someone. And that's a guy who goes by the name of Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.