Knowledge Fight - #24: March 23, 2017

Episode Date: March 27, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the happenings of the March 23rd episode of The Alex Jones Show.  Topics include: Alex's clearly forced Pizzagate apology Alex Jones possibly losing a friend Is Alex Jones a Time Traveling Documentarian? Does Alex understand children's Bible stories?

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. This is a podcast where we sit around and drink some red wine and have a little conversation about info wars But plot twist What's the plot twist? I know a lot about Alex Jones and info wars and I listen to his show every day. You do. Uh-huh, okay I'm gonna tell you something. I do not I don't think I know anything about Alex Jones. You know, he's a man. He is a man a man He's a really it's really important to him that he's a man. He's a man emphasis on man

It's really important to him that he's a white man. He lives in occupied, Texas. You know that's true Uh, and that's about it. That's all you really need to know about. That's all I need to know Uh guys today We are going to be going over the day in the life of Alex Jones. We're going to be going over thursday March 23rd on the Alex Jones program where a lot of really fucked up stuff happens And Alex Jones may or may not have lost a friend No He has an interview that we're going to be breaking down in detail that I think might have fallout consequences

That's that's our next project is a child uh children's book called Alex loses a friend Because of the fucking globalists There's no doubt the globalists are interwoven in this lack of a friendship Yep, uh, but I want before we get to the episode before we get to the uh clips that we're going to play and discuss I wanted to just take a second to reflect and bask in some Alex Jones related news That we're not going to be going over excellent first thing the classic what got cut It's not even what got cut because it's just news that if we didn't talk about

Everyone would be like this is not a legit Alex Jones podcast. That's Yeah, it would be terrible if people thought that of us. Yeah, absolutely The twitter sphere would be a flutter Oh The buzz so on friday Of last week on the 24th. Alex Jones released a in-depth apology to james alefantis owner of comet ping pong pizza about his involvement in pizza gate an

unprecedented Apology he still is he has the tone of like hey, we were just reporting Stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's still oh as we all know They're just really focused on getting uh getting good reporting out there. We love the truth And hey other people were saying this it was viral. We're just commenting on it Why you guys being such bitches about it, right? That's kind of his tone But at the same time the language of his apology I texted you about this before the show I'm certain he's getting sued. Oh, absolutely the way he keeps bringing up james alefantis

the way he keeps saying like We were we heard these things The the reporters who were talking about it aren't even here anymore, right? We are so sorry. We fired those people. Yeah Yeah, no, he's not unprompted at the very least got a strongly worded letter 100 percent Oh, absolutely But also the other thing I wanted to unpack is that a couple months ago He put out a video on youtube called the final word on sandy hook

Oh He's already got the final word out Yeah, which boy I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that Well, he he realized that people were attacking him for being a sandy hook truther and all this stuff for being a pile of shit Yeah, and so he wanted to put out a video that once and for all spoke his piece About sandy hook. Was it just him shitting on uh the concept of grief?

I wish it was just just a piece of paper with grief written on it as he shits on the dust If he just had like a patchwork quilt done and all of the pieces of it were people who had lost loved ones And he just shit on it That's what the video should have been That's the image in my head from now on. Yeah. Yeah In reality what it was was him playing a bunch of circumstantial Bullshit pieces of evidence that sandy hook might have been fake

And then him at the end being like This investigation is gonna be ongoing. No, it's not the final word there. How do you what? Yeah, it's not. He lied even in a lie. Yeah, god damn it But it's this trend. It's a chinese nesting doll of lies the chai-com nesting doll. Yep I'm starting to recognize that there are pieces of things that he Has said that he's starting to walk back really hard Like the pizza gate one is is one of them the sandy hook thing He did a bad job of it in that video

But what he's trying to do is like distance and starting to be like, yeah We were just we're just asking questions over here. Right that sort of thing and that means trouble Yeah, that when you don't have any clips of him ever apologizing for anything And even the ones where he is saying, you know, I may have gotten something wrong before he's also always said But really I got it right too. Yeah. Yeah I look I was more right than wrong. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm not a perfect man But I will say that 99% of the time what we report on is right and frankly that's probably a hundred percent We round up here his his great clip that uh, isn't one of our past episodes where he's like

I'm so plugged into the zeitgeist that even when I try to lie. I'm yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's an insane person You fucking douche. Anyway, let's get to the 23rd. This is gonna be a roller coaster ride There's going to be a sort of uh, all over the place beginning Then this interview that I mentioned and then esoteric malaise I have never heard those two words back to back before that's esoteric malaise. Yeah. Yeah He's in an unpleasant state, but he's also getting real heady with it He's finding ways to be malaise to have malaise in a very weird and unusual type way. Yes, absolutely

It's great. It's it's wonderful. But that's just sort of a syllabus for what we're about to experience Let's get to this first clip that involves Uh, some of these leaks that are going on. I'm not talking onions my friend And it's even in the vault seven leaks that they're targeting president trump trying to plant Russian software that they've stolen and are using it's not the claim he's working with the russians You just you you don't think some little hacker in his basement released vault seven two weeks ago That was right out of the white house. You can bet your bottom dollar was it

Or let's just say allies of the return of the republic Oh So the jedi Is that who released it? Uh Wait, no, he can't no he's that's bad. That's bad what he just said, right? Yeah, especially if it turns out that it is russia who's releasing these things I think it's even worse if it turns out. It's the white house who's releasing these things Well, wait state you because how did how did they won? How did they get it?

Probably illegally right. Yeah, so done. We're done. We're done right there. That's why it's really bad. They're patriots No, it's it's but he's also already said the russians are are helping us out here That's why he had to stipulate friends Who support the return of the republic, right? You have these weird hacker collectives and stuff like that like the gucifer 2.0, which I don't know if it's true, but our intelligence zone is already. Yeah Our intelligence community does believe that that is a cut out personality for russian hackers Yeah to use as an intermediary to get the information to wiki leaks and have plausible deniability

Now if alex jones is saying that these people are like friends of the return of our republic He's basically just saying that like Putin Putin's helping us restore our republic. Yeah, that's fucked up friends of the return of the treason That's treason, right? That's treason. Yeah, if you're if you're working with A a non-allied power to Perform what is essentially a coup that's

By the definition of words treason we keep coming back to this thing Where you're so hung up on the idea that words of meaning. I that's a really good point Yeah, I it's I've been meaning to bring this up in our review sessions. I keep yeah, whatever Yeah, hr is really pissed at me for believing in the meaning of words after every episode We sit down and I give you an employee review and you give me an employee review Yeah, yours is what are you even doing here and mine is you do all the work. Thanks yours is also dan you have a problem You should talk to more people. That's you Yeah, well, I didn't want to air our dirty laundry. That's fine. Anyway, uh alex jones

Is in this episode and throughout this last week has been pretty Uh Certain is the right word. I think that he's being oppressed He's got a real victim complex. Sure. Sure. Sure. He's being oppressed. All right, and this next clip He explores a little bit of his thoughts about that and they're openly in the news saying shut down alex jones I was told by high level sources that again just a few months ago nancy poloses Had met with the outgoing head of the justice department royal relinch and demanded either be sued

Or demanded I somehow be arrested And then she said I can't do it. So they started developing other plans that will be obviously seeing emerge soon I'm never to talk about those yet, but No, she didn't Yeah, no, also, why would you why would you talk to the outgoing? Uh head of the justice department. Well because at that point why would you say to her because she was already leaving Why would you say to her like now that you have zero power? It's time to really go after alex jones. It's go time. Yeah

Uh, well, I think we were we our master plan was to get you as far away from power as humanly possible That way what is she gonna infiltrate? Yeah, no one suspects the former attorney general Yep, there's two things no one expects spanish acquisition former attorney generals everybody knows this this is why janet reno Is the greatest trojan horse is currently working for info wars. You don't know it. She's not on camera. It's true. It's true Yeah, uh, she's a secret mole. I believe the premise as uh as established by alex here Is that loretta lynch wouldn't have stopped being attorney general had hillary won? Yeah, well, that's obvious and that's when they were making these plans

Before alex jones was really that important to anybody. He was important back then Okay, I apologize. No, you're right. You're right. He got trump elected Boy, I wish I wish there was less truth in that. Yeah. Anyway, this clip's not done understand I Officially already in dc have obama and hillary clinton out of that command bunker they've got down the street They do not have a command bunker the command bunker that doesn't exist. Yeah, okay Where is it? It doesn't? It's always down the street. Yeah, it's just round the block

You pass the mcdonalds. It's right over there Exactly. He you know where it exists inside his uh, little fantasy brain world. That's where that's the address alex jones's weird fantasy brain world. Did a hillbilly caller give him directions? Now boy, how do I tell you that the dc dojo uh department of transportation is out there and they tell me that uh bunkers There's bunkers bunkers. Mm-hmm. Excuse me, sir. I don't know when you turned into a southern gentleman. No, I do declare I'll do declare obama got a bunker now They are they are coming after us and they don't even hide this up there They want us to know

We're coming after you with lawyers get ready And they're in the federal elections commission already outside of law Just racketeering sending letters to google and letters other companies saying you kick off Everybody that I mean every libertarian or patriotic or nationalistic news site That I talked to was kicked off ad roll last month on the same day No See, oh, we're not allowed to advertise supplements on the internet or or t-shirts because the federal elections commission said so where are the hearings?

You don't get a hearing. Where are the hearings? You don't get a hearing Because it's not uh, it's not a legal thing Yeah, it's a business capitalism. It's a business that you violated their terms of service. Yeah, y'all y'all ever capitalism It's not a good. It's not necessarily the best system. But it is the one that we exist in now, alex It's well within especially what libertarians should believe in yeah, we've been over this a hundred times is all ad roll Uh or a being I was kicked off because of the fec narrative is it's complete nonsense But I that's like what he just said is the best kind of evidence for him being currently Issued papers by a lawyer. Uh-huh. It has to be like he is telling the truth

Somebody is issuing him papers. Yes, but it can't just be a pizza joint. No, right? They're just the front They're just the the first wave, you know, that's their Pelosi is operating secretly behind him Yeah, because if it's just a pizza joint all he warrants is a pizza joint And that does not give him the inflated self importance that he needs no, but it is like let's just say it is Just james elefantis and comet ping pong because that's the truth. Well, we don't know that's the truth It seems like the most likely scenario right occum's razor it if that is the case He's fucked like he deserves to be sued And like that's a good case. Yeah that it what what would the case be?

It wouldn't be you can't it can't be libel Can it? Yeah. Oh, is it libel hard? That's how does that work? What? It's defamatory statements that were made Uh through through speculation see, but it wasn't them insulting the pizza joint It was them just insisting that the pizza joint was a front for hillary clinton to rape children That's not insulting. That's not insulting at all. That's actually implying that they're very Exactly. They've got a second business running right? You need more revenue streams in this day and age

You got to diversify. Oh, of course And if you're the pizza joint that hillary clinton picked man, you must be a great pizza joint, right? Clinton only rapes in the finest Jesus if you if you go back and look at some of the stuff and some of the statements that were made by Employees of comet ping-pong and james olefantis back when this was first starting up There's a bunch of threats that they got to their business, right? Their employees were threatened. They had their lives threatened They had a situation where you know it became hostile to ever come to work, right? Of course, that's actionable

Yeah, I agree. But who who like Now now we're actually just discussing a full on legal briefing and this has become an episode of handle on the law um Boston legal um, so But but wouldn't it be the originator of the claim like Alex jones has never Alex jones has never originated an idea Other than the ones that he's just making up. Yeah, so maybe he did make this one. I don't know I'm not I'm not sure how that would work. But I know that he is incredibly guilty of perpetuating. Oh, yeah

He gave it the biggest platform you could he had uh, like there's this guy named jack possobiak Who's a complete monster made up name from star wars. He spent like An entire evening videotaping himself going to comet ping-pong and comet or what's the other one besta pizza There are two pizza places on the same block and he was going competing rape dungeons. Yep. Absolutely Well, they're all in the mix. They're all together So they had like he went and weird business model weird business model He videotaped himself going into besta pizza and nothing happened right nothing happened There was nothing weird and then as soon as he left he's like oh so fucking weird in there

Oh my god You can just feel it like a like a ghost hunter show like yeah, oh I can feel it got it just got colder I can feel the readers were off the charts. Yeah, exactly So then he goes to comet ping-pong and he tries to order some food everyone's treating him real nice He goes in he he's trying to live stream it and one of the waiters realizes what's going on that this guy Is videotaping himself eating at their place? That's not a coincidence. Yeah, especially while all this pizza gate stuff is going on So the waiter comes over and explains my employees have been threatened

Do you understand that you're helping perpetuate something that is really damaging to? People right just people who are trying to live their lives and not just my business, but the lives of people Yeah, absolutely. So once once a guy starts bringing guns places. Well, that's a different guy physical threat. This is before that Oh, well, I mean it's the same. That's why I'm I think it helps build the case that alex is going to get sued Okay, uh, it's a jack for so be it goes in this guy explains to him that people have been threatened and it's no joke It's not a laughing matter. And he's like, I'm just trying to you know, I always tape everything I do I'm trying to eat a dinner and he's like Come on. Yeah, it's not what's going on the guy

There's an off-duty cop there and they just escorted him out right and he's like everything was fucking weird in there I'm surprised he didn't claim him to be a cop himself, right? That's your move. So be it. Yeah, that's your move You go in there and you're like, uh, uh, actually under cover actually. I am a cop. I'm serpa. Go Yeah, I'm trying to figure this shit out man. Well, he didn't pull that he left and then he was like Everything was demonic in there. You can just get a feeling. There's a back room. There were kids running in and out of it What's going on here? Didn't show any of that in his video Probably just making shit up kids running in and out of it

I watched the entire like two hour long live stream that he posted because you're an insane person nuts You're a lunatic. There's nothing in it. And then like the next day He's on info wars great being interviewed about what he experienced and what he found at the pizza place He's lying his tits off There's and he says a bunch of stuff that didn't happen in the videos, but they know no one's gonna go watch the whole videos It's two hours long. Yeah, absolutely You're the only person who watched the whole video probably So they interview him on that alex does say that someone should go check it out

Someone should go investigate it right flash forward a very short time Guy shows up with a gun drove from out of state to go investigate this pizza place Shoots uh shoots a bullet in the place. He whoa He did yeah, he fired. I didn't know that I didn't know he fired he fired the gun It didn't he didn't I don't think he shot it at anybody, but I think he like he shot it at the ground Wow, yeah So yosemite sam came from oklahoma to bother a pizza joint Yeah, I mean alex isn't alex isn't wholly responsible for all this turn of events

But he had his hand in playing yeah a part of it He should be sued Dave seaman should be sued Uh Bunch of other of these ding dong assholes. They really should be sued. They've caused a lot of damage to people's lives Well, I mean you got lots of revenue. You got uh, you know threats on people's lives I believe in free speech wholeheartedly, but I don't believe in uh libel and I don't believe in threats Those things are you don't believe either of those things are real. No, I believe they're real, but I don't think they're protected

I don't I don't believe that you can get away with those. Well. Yeah neither neither does the law That's why they that's why those words exist So I believe that this what I've just laid out for you is the reason that alex is probably going to get sued Yes, I also believe that the reason That he's being investigated as he puts it in that last clip Yeah, is not because people think he's a russian spy No, it's because there are russian russian bots that are

specifically promoting his content Okay, and the question that the fbi is apparently asking according to the articles that I've read is Is there coordination? Is there a a collaborative thing going on where these russian bots promote info wars content? And then secondarily, is there any influence from russian sources into alex's reporting? And you would say like I would say normally there's no way there's collusion or a collaboration just because Who would you wouldn't even need to talk to alex if you gave if you gave him more attention? He'd just be like hooray and never ask questions. Yeah, but he did go on rt

He did and he did go on rt And he went on alexander dugans show and alexander dugans been on his show right like there isn't nothing there You know see and I would say it's probably more alex just having both naked self-interest And just needing his father's love. That's really what that all is too busy with the teeth that dentist needs his father's love He's got great teeth, but he doesn't have his dad's love. I don't think that alex himself is being investigated for anything He's done. I believe that he is a piece of the investigation Because his propaganda is being pushed by russian bonds. Yeah, and I believe from everything I've read that that is what the articles are about and about what the fbi investigation is about

alex has turned this into I am being called a russian agent right and they're trying to attack me Well, and that's that's a great narrative for him to push because that's that's turned into also the The argument from even people on the left where it's like well, I don't support them shutting down any kind of news Or anything like that and you're like well one Not the story no two. He's not he's propaganda. Yeah, and I don't think he should be shut down No, I just think we should roundly mock him until he quits and sue him for libel until he's broke Yeah, if he does do those things he should be sued for them

But anyway, these are the reasons that I think people are attacking alex. Yes alex has other ideas about why people are attacking So many so many possibilities Why do they want to shut in full wars down? We told you 18 years ago They've got cameras and microphones hidden in major devices and are watching and listening to you for uh controlling Thought content and knowing what you're doing and selling data to advertising agencies to then control the hopes and dreams of society More we told you that they were spying on the president and they tried to lie about it And now it's been exposed

We told you they're preparing a civil emergency and martial law and a civil war now They're all over the news openly calling for the cities to begin to burn And for the president to be murdered or the president to be you know drag out and chains That's not political speech. That's calls for military Insurrection and warfare against the republic and they've got the former deputy head of the defense department running around in policy papers like foreign affairs And foreign policy and all these other globalist publications and going to the Pentagon and saying we You can pull it up former deputy head of the defense department calling for military coup against trump

I that that person should be arrested and then indicted the next day for organized In the country outside of law to foment a military Mutiny and rebellion against the taxpayers citizens of this country, but wait, uh-huh, but But didn't he say earlier that that was okay? Didn't he as long as they were as long as they were For trump. Yeah, then doesn't he didn't he just said didn't he just condemn the very thing that he said was perfectly fine He's in time like the last months of his show have been about how

The rogue forces within the cia have performed a counter coup Against liberals right, but I thought we already had the counter counter coup. So this is the third coup We're in the middle of the counter counter coup We're in the middle of the counter counter man. I cannot keep track of all these coups We might find out find out later that there's we need a we need a coup tracker. Yeah, we do. Let's get a nap. Yeah Can you code? No, we're fucked all I can do we'll just send out a mask test Mask text every time there's a counter coup. Yeah, so also, uh, I

Because alex keeps talking about globalist publications. I've subscribed to foreign policy And I've started reading it you're losing your mind I'm a walk you're a walk now. I started reading foreign policy all the time. Okay, uh, and I check in on it every day This narrative he's spinning is not in there But what I did read is a very fascinating article about sebastian gorka. Oh, yeah, he's a bad dude He's he's a nazi theoretically a swore nazi. He's a nazi Uh, but this article was we don't want to take a stance on whether or not he is a nazi But what I can do is review his dissertation

Oh So the one where he probably espouses nazi ideas. No, it's uh, you know, it's it's about terrorism Counterterrorism stuff and the guy who is a doctoral advisor So he's used to reviewing people's dissertations was just going on and on just Fucking taken the piss out of him for how Unscholarly it was he only cites like four sources Clearly didn't read many books wonderful. Then it goes on to explain that like he is one of trump's counterterrorism advisors

He's pretty high up there and he has no experience and almost no published work outside of his dissertation About counterterrorism. It's like that's bad That's bad, right? That's the kind of stuff that's in foreign policy. Very interesting. Don't you want like Now I look I'm listening I could be crazy Wouldn't you wouldn't you want like an expert? I think for an advisor position You'd want an expert especially for like a counterterrorism When that seems to be a pretty hot topic. Yeah, why would you hire just a random dude?

Weirdo weirdo nazi gorka. What's your counterterrorism idea kill the jews. Ah, you're a nazi There it is. You're a nazi. I knew it. Damn. My aunt. I caught you nazi my anti-semitic Tourette's got the best of me I'm always trying not to nazi. Uh, so this next clip is what I would describe as a tease for our next episode A tease for cheese if you guys want to get excited about what our next episode is going to be about It's a lot of this the good news is new nazi comes out And just says look, I mean I've had a lot of people come to me in the intelligence agencies and then trump was being spied on This is this is a huge narrative that alex spun for the entirety of the last week really

And I none of it's true. I can prove it And I'm going to on our next episode you can prove that he spun the narrative the whole week No, I can prove that it's all lies. Oh, well, it is all and I found out where it came from. Oh, shit Yep, this is this is big Big stuff. So anyway get excited for our next episode, but also enjoy the rest of this one. You ding dong Why did you just get passive aggressive? I don't know. We have because we've been sick. We haven't done this in a week That's true. It's that we're we're we're a half hour in we're figuring our legs back again Take a sip of this wine. Let's just cheers. You're just being mean about it. I'm not being mean

You know what it is. I'm getting insecure that people are going to turn this off because the next episode is going to be so great Yeah, that sounds about right also because the beginning of this episode is so fucking disjointed Like the stuff he's talking about doesn't track from a to b There's just so much like all over the place stuff. Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't have the uh, kind of more or maybe Maybe he's just not capable of doing the longer narrative right now Well, we'll hit it because he's being attacked on so many different angles, right? Well, we'll hit we'll hit a coherent narrative probably around an hour and a half into the spot. Excellent I'm glad to hear it. But until then I uh want which is now a tease now

You're now people are gonna just press pause and then fast forward to the hour and a half mark Have you ever watched any of alex jones's documentaries? I have not I have watched a lot of them. How are you still alive? I look I I used to be I used to oh Now I see it. There are four locks on the door You haven't gone outside in months in days Uh, I was outside yesterday. I went to work your beard has a bone in it. That's true. I was just as bam bam stuff Okay, so the new fashion pebbles. I can't remember. Anyway, uh, I've watched the obama deception. Okay

Uh, I've watched a number of other ones. That's my favorite born movie. That's great Uh, I should have brought back mad damon in blackface. Hey, what are you gonna do? Oh? Oh address elbow was bad cast Uh, that's my racist james bond. There it is character. Uh, so he had a documentary in quotes called end end game Road to tyranny. Oh Now is that a chess documentary? Yeah, I wish it was and he'd like get casper off and Boris Boris foskey is in there Yeah, uh, so alex has some uh He says something in this next clip

that like Is undefensible enjoy So again, we've told you right down the line because we actually studied this and I don't say this to brag I say it because I've read the end of the book No, you haven't I know where they want to take us. I know what their end game is They even had a project called in game. That's a martial law takeover plan That they declassified

two years after it was created and Three years after my film in game came out Wait Strangely enough strangely enough He made a documentary about this program a year before it was created. Wait, what? What did he just say? He's he's an it was declassified two years after they created the program after they created the program And then three years after his documentary. Yes, so

What using math what alex jones is saying? Is that maybe The entire program was his fault in the first place alex jones says sooth Yeah, he just gave them an idea. He did the whole end game like this is what they're doing and they're like Maybe That doesn't sound like a bad idea also buried within that complete impossibility The heat time machine

All right, 12th dimensional beings him and andrew basiago. There is no there is no Impossibilities in our world fine. So unlikely eddy bravo is coming back Unlikely that he created this documentary a year before that program I'll give you that also unlikely The government creates an end game for global enslavement program right then declassifies it two years later Why wouldn't you declassify it? There's no damaging information there You want that out in the public sphere? It's like all right. You want them you want them to know the bullet they dodge Oh man, we could have totally end game to you, but we didn't bro

We started we'll even give we'll even give it to you. We put it in foreign policy. Who cares? Nobody reads that shit stupid as dan except He's mostly distracted by articles about gorka. They're gonna start Just talking directly to you in foreign policy articles, right? They're gonna be like dan. I'm telling you you're gonna love researching this Real talk. I think that's what alex thinks is going on So I mean, I hope it doesn't happen to me because otherwise I got to move to texas. Yeah, that's true. I don't want to do that So yeah, I think that the the idea that the government would be like, all right, we're gonna shut everything down We're gonna enslave everybody. All right two years is enough of a head start

We got everything pretty much in place. Let's just fucking declassify this nothing they can do about it now What was the meeting like? All right. So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna declare martial law And then we're gonna take over all the cities burn them down because that's not where the patriots live No, they're in their liberal bubbles. We got to kill them. Mm-hmm patriots are out in the sticks. Exactly We all know patriots only live one to an entire estate. They live in bfe Exactly say Okay, this is a great plan. Mm-hmm and then two years later. They're like, you know what? I don't think this was a great plan guys guys. I think we I think we fucked the dog on this one, but

How about we just tell everyone ever that this was our bad plan? Yeah. Oh, that's a great idea. That's a great idea, right? Yeah, we want to be honest and transparent like we all know the intelligence community always is that narrative You just spun right there is more entertaining than Endgame path for global deception enslavement whatever Alex's stupid documentary. Yeah Oh, man, we how long is the documentary? Oh fucking long. You know, we need you know, what if people are we talking? How many titanics long is it? I say is it two titanics long six six titanics long? No, that's exaggeration

That's a long titanic. I think that if people donate to the show One of the things we should do is you are turning into alex so we should do like if you Subscribe now to our man pills. No, no, no pills But if people were to subscribe and donate we would do a wasted commentary of alex jones Oh, shit a full on mst3k alex jones. That'd be good. I think that might be fun. This is here's an idea. Anyway Look, it's time for a news flash. I don't know if you're ready for it news flash Ladies and gentlemen, let me give you a little news flash I don't like how deep I am into this at a certain level. Okay, I'm not gonna power

But let me just tell you something I've seen stuff hardly anybody else has seen I've seen stuff barely anybody's ever seen I I don't even like Having the responsibility of being the only truth teller in the world. Well, it's a calling. I don't like it I'd like this isn't to brag. No, no brag I'd like to fully say that I believe that he's seen stuff that almost nobody's seen But that's because I think it's been in entirely in his head though. But no, I think he's seen very specific like forgeries I think he's seen frauds that have

Specifically targeted him because they know he just believes anything and not just that uh, he has seen the future As we can tell right now. Yeah, he has he has worked it out. He's he's just reverse engineered it That's what he did with the endgame thing man. He reversed engine. He knew inevitably the government would both create this program That has the same name as the documentary. Yeah, well, where else where that's why he named it what it is What an asshole. I mean you now. Oh fair enough. I'm just kidding Fair enough. He's not done

I'm not just here on air talking about this stuff They've got displays and systems that are AI run where the computer itself you just target the person There's a whole map of everything they do every device they've got and that machine tries to hammer in and break into everything You've got it's normally already broken in and then they've got Microscopic capacitors in the chips for at least six years that are microscopic microphones and that's been in the news What That data transferred over cable And over wireless and over power lines is just scooping it all up

He does not know what any of this and that's stuff. I knew about 15 years ago He's known for 15 years stuff that they would start doing nine years later Again, but he's that they can't do now. He's known for 15 years the stuff that they're not doing No, no, but this goes back to that like Like you can't even it's not stupid to think that someone's microwave is listening to them because there's chips inside them with little micro Microphones why why why would you do that? We've got microphones everywhere. Also. Hey, bro. Hey, bro. Hey, bro That would be cost prohibitive that would be cost prohibitive the idea of putting how many where like what is it tiny? Bacteria how are they how are they spreading?

Do they have guys just running in with with fucking power washers of microphones on everything? No, it goes in the factories They put these chips in and then whenever they want to the government can remotely turn them on and start listening into you through Your toaster and shit, but they can remotely turn on your phone and start listening to you through that Right, but this was six years ago before cell phones. My argument is falling apart that does not make any sense Why would you build a microscopic microphone? That makes no sense Also, how would you build a microscopic microphone? Also that has a transmitter that can send things to you also and a power source

Also problematic in the idea that like let's say it's in your microwave Let's let's start From the microphone being in your microwave when you turn on your microwave. It makes a lot of don't Do that It makes a lot of noise don't even bother. It just goes nobody turns their microphone their microwave on you can't spy on me when i'm cooking How about that government what now? but then Classic classic knowledge fight you can't spy on me when i'm cooking you're only gonna get to hear what i say in the kitchen

You know they got microscopic microphones in your tv. Okay in your microwave in your uh toaster In your blender. Okay in your uh old timey type blender with the the crank I think that this is just your bottle opener. This is just alex trying to force us back to the farmhouse that he wishes we all lived in No electronics Oh, that might be that might be that's the only way for us to survive the only way will be safe Hey, you wouldn't even know that the endgame is coming because you couldn't see his Documentary though. There's the problem. Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. You're gonna get killed either way. Yep. Anyway, you know You and I are millennials

You know that right? I've heard yeah, we're millennials turns out the globalists have a plan for us You know what a lot of people in other generations don't like us. No, it's very true. It's strange alex is one of them I'm sure that it's never happened to any other generation in the history that other generations haven't like certainly not I guarantee that you have never heard the same things people said about us Applied to any other generation before I will say this I don't think that other generations have had this specific charge levied at them. Let's see what it is Their language is small All right, they're they're they're they're restricted

Bro, they're like, you know kids trying to act cool in junior high And and and you know, you're getting little clicks I mean, I'm just imagine that times 10 and that's the elitist system They're building in the type of minions they want to be one of the last generations and wipe almost everybody out They're just getting the containment grids up getting us in cities getting the police forces in place Getting the robots in place and and getting us totally domesticated before they hammered down and then Boom The agreements have been made. They're going to wipe out 90 of the chinese 90 percent of the folks in africa

Latin america And the west is going to have big death too, but these are race specific and china's agreed to all of us by the way And then they're going to start that's a bad deal releasing the bio weapons After they killed 90 percent of the people then they really smile. Yeah, I say to mutants. That's white people People say, oh, yeah, you're a mutant. That's what the black man will say. Yeah, so are you everybody mutates everybody's different Say you have all the different groups and variations and the rest of it, but but that's what's going on Through that mutation point he made there at the end. He's kind of supporting theory of evolution But uh, or eugenics or or just he's making an argument

Against an argument that no one has made which I like how he's already got like, oh White people are ice age mutants. We all know this and he's like, uh-huh Well, you're a mutant. Like what is he talking about? I'll be let's be fair There is a group called the five percent nation the nations of nation of gods and earths, which is a shoot-off of Uh africa afro centric islam They were a branch out of malcom x's church because they didn't think he was extreme enough There's a guy named clarence 13 x like I like him a lot also known as pudding because his words were so smooth Okay, we're now seriously. I am a huge fan of his the wu-tang. You have you have gotten me on board

The wu-tang clan are adherents of the nation of gods and earths five percent nation You can hear it. Yeah, you can hear it in a lot of their raps. They talk about like This is like a fear for the 85 that don't have a clue. There's just references to the the That religious group throughout all of their their history Okay, the 85 is the five percent nation is based on the idea that there's five percent of the population that knows the truth And actively tries to wake up the population That is 85 of the population that is deaf dumb and blind and doesn't know the truth Then there's 10 of the population that knows the truth and actively seeks to try and keep the 85 down

That's bad numbers. It's bad. We're out number two to one. Yeah, are we are we one of them or no? No, we're bad We're bad. We're probably bad. Okay, because it is kind of wait. We're we're part of the bad 10 percent Well, or the 85 percent it depends We could be like that's that's not a good answer We could be either depending on what we're doing. Okay in the original conception of the five percent nation their belief the truth that the 85 percent is deaf dumb and blind to is that the black man is god And that a law means arm leg leg arm head the composition of the black man

Wait, which is also the composition of white man, but be that as a wait wait arm leg leg arm head Yeah, a la that's what a la means It's a it's a representation for your body, but But why would they use that word? What do you mean? Well, isn't that a Isn't that a well, it's a repurposing of like islamic beliefs Well, yeah, but aren't those really old? Yeah, they are they are so so they just figured this out No, listen, I'm good. I don't know. I'm sorry. I have a lot of questions I've done a lot of research into the five percent nation because I think they're fascinating right and actually

As it well, I'm fascinated as uh time has gone on They've gotten a lot There's a lot more liberalism to it and it's not so racist But in its original conception it was racist and one of their beliefs that they held Was that white people were created in a lab by an evil scientist named yaku. Oh that one I know Yeah, that one I know because that one uh While not being plausible

Uh, it does kind of explain why anytime you read a history book and you get to the statement And then the white man came you're like, oh no Well, that's this is bad foreshadowing, but that kind of is the black nationalist Bent that alex is talking about when he talks about like white people being ice age mutants Okay, and stuff like that. That's the from the wait. Yaku made us in the ice age. Yeah. Yeah way back way back All right. Well, I'm on board, but I'm saying that this sounds as reasonable as anything else. We've heard so far today That's one of the examples of the type of stuff that alex is arguing against So I'm just saying that it's not a non argument that he's arguing against. It's just a very

It's a it's a it's a magnificent argument. He's arguing against. Yeah. So anyway A lot of people are gonna die and then we're gonna release bio weapons. Gotcha. Sweet. I'm in So we're gonna get to this interview kill 90 percent Then we release the bio weapons. Yes Why would you do that after the 90 percent? Uh, maybe the bio weapons wouldn't be effective enough I don't know. I don't know I don't believe him Stop looking at me

Stop staring at me like that. I'm sorry. I just want I just want any kind of any kind of thing to hang on to there With such a look from you that scared the shit out of me I just I want any kind of handhold because that makes Not just no sense. That makes the chinese have agreed to it opposite sense and who which all the chinese agree to it all of them all of them. Okay, we got the chai comms are on board We got that signed. We got that in documentation because we're gonna need it in the eventual court case of the History of humanity sure, uh, so we're gonna get to this interview But first before we do alex wants to do a deep dive into analysis about the attack on london's parliament

Uh that happened at the middle of last week. I bet it totally has nothing with his hatred of islam We're gonna find out so see this is what i'm getting it for you They think you're so dumb that they have a jihadi Run over a bunch of people and stab a bunch of people and our news will barely even say it's islamic and in england They're going around saying it's hate. Don't do it and i was watching footage this morning online of just thousands of muslim men Yesterday today Out celebrating and with so much hate in their eyes and their mouths open and their teeth showing Like a murderous horde of zombies and i'm supposed to go. Oh, I love you come on in. Oh, I don't want to be mean

Sure, kill me. I'm guessing that what he saw was a bunch of like b-roll It did can we find any footage? I can't no, but also it's it's fascinating this open teeth showing Oh, like he has like a like a primate thing going on there like they showed their teeth. That's a sign of aggression Yeah, he's a he's a yeah, that makes sense in his worldview insane But uh, this is fascinating because as we all know posties never show their teeth. No except for that movie except That one movie where the pussy had the vagina dentata. Yeah, that's it. Yep Uh, so I think it's interesting that alex is so bent out of shape about this compared to

How people in london are dealing with it, which was this sucks. It's tragedy, but let's go about our lives Right, you know, it sucks that this guy died or you know, a couple people died But uh, you know, we move on the the classic, uh, the classic whoville solution Something bad happens. You know what? Let's all come together. Yeah, let's not let this terrorist apart No, whereas alex is uh, super into let's call them jihadis and uh, really demonize islam By saying that all of these other muslims were celebrating it kind of making it seem like it's a big All of them are happy about it. Right. They're lying to you when they say that they're not terrorists Well, as we all know if you see a thousand people doing something that's representative of two billion people doing everything

We all know that and at press time alex has still not apologized or recognized That that uh guy who shot up a mosque in kebek was a white dude He reported it that it was a muslim and will not, uh, correct himself How? Okay, so this this gets this gets back to our uh, our general flin situation where That now there's blood in the water. Hold on. Is it a general flin situation or is it a general flin situation? We have a generalized flin. It's actually a general fin situation. It's all about the finnish people and what they've done Okay, uh, no the the blood in the water thing, right?

So once we once we got one, uh, trump person down now We're going after more and more and more right? Yeah, once we get one alex jones apology. Pizza gate. Oh, it's all coming down He's gonna have to apologize for tons of shit. I'm hoping that would be amazing every episode a new apology Oh man, I don't think we have what a brave new world we live in I think if he apologized for everything he should apologize for we would be long dead before we covered it all It would be a it would be a lot of episodes. He's been on air for 23 years He's got a lot. He's gotta go. Hey, you know what we fucked up on that one Anyway, he has some more knowledge fight. We're doing we're doing april 24th episode

It is just a long series of apologies. I would love that. That's my birthday That'd be a great present if alex jones just apologized for an entire show. That would be fun Uh, so he goes he has some more thoughts about this london attack and he cites What I can only describe is like a super scientific approach to you know statistics Figuring out what's going on. I don't trust you on aljazeera's official feed On facebook as opposed to there thousands of emojis

Celebrating a screenshot in live time For every frowny face There are like 10 smiley faces and it went on for hours And for every thumbs down there's not even one thumbs down on that page. Look at that Not one thumbs down thumbs up, baby Thumbs up, baby For every frowny face There is 10 smiley faces. So you know how when you're broadcasting live on facebook

It shows the like uh responses cascading across the screen He has a screenshot of a lot of like happy faces covering the london attack. Now One of the things that alex doesn't take into account is that things like 4chan exist Can we play that one more time? No, I want to I want to hear that we're gonna have to wait for the episode So many times you have to wait to listen back but for every frowny face There's 10 smiles. There's 10 smiley faces if morgan freeman did that it'd be amazing He does not recognize that there are internet brigades That troll things. Yes, and I would not be super surprised

I have no evidence of this but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a bunch of people Who put on a message board? Let's all go brigade this aljazeera report and make it look like everyone's happy about this You can't make brigade a verb I refuse I refuse all right the motion passes, but anyway, they brigade it Son of a bitch So I don't I don't know like I can't prove that that's true And I'm not going to pour over message board histories to find any evidence of that Well, what you're doing is predicting the eventual book charge of the internet brigade

Oh, uh, fantastic book brigading the internet brigading That's right out for you But so I mean basically what you have there is a plausible Explanation for why that might be the case outside of Alex's argument, which is all muslims are super thrilled about this attack Yeah, I don't think that's true and I don't think you can prove that those smiley faces were coming from muslim people you dumb fuck Not yet is there oh, I was talking to is there any is there any what could you imagine any way to prove that

Like any possible Not within alex jones is a sort of investigative journalism techniques No, other than tracking every single one of those likes down And putting together a full personal history of each of those people you would almost need an nsa style Uh database and yeah, you would have to gather a lot of metadata to figure that shit out You definitely would Ah, I know I know he's muslim because I know he goes to temple five times a day to pray And I know that because I've been following all of his uh, who cares listen

It's time to get to this interview. It's time to get serious or everything takes a turn This is an interview with one dr. Steve pacenic Dr. Pacenic who as we have documented in the past, uh, does not really believe in sandy hook Nope, which is a big strike against him. He's a bad person He is the guy who's responsible for the counter coup narrative that alex has been pitching for about the last year right? I got a lot of red flags on steve pacenic A lot of them more than more than those two. Yeah, but I want to say do you need more than those two? No, okay today

I'm into him All right, his interview today He's trying to make two points And alex won't let him and it's an hour-long interview basically gotcha here. Oh, that's that's classic alex Uh, just to indicate where alex's head was at when the interview was about to start I'm going to play his introduction Where he gives steve pacenic's credits and then tries to introduce the topics he'd like to talk about And we'll see how that goes

All right He co-wrote books to tom clancy when hollywood producer also one of the founders of delta forest involved the state department and other agencies Encounter terrorism and regime change Everybody knows who he is dr. Steve pacenic steve pacenic dot com joins us to the bottom of the hour Then I promise I'm getting to all these clips Uh on this confirmation hearings going on When I got to say uh, this judge that uh, he's been nominated by by trump's just destroying him We've got new nez admitting in the intelligence committee

Of course, they're spying on him. We have all these forces are doing it I can't believe they're playing dumb with all this. They were all of the news saying they were Uh, and so much more and then the latest islamic attack Which they're saying isn't his inlamic attack Uh, so we'll see where all that's going. We have michael more Again calling for martial law and national emergency. I remember the former deputy head of the defense department Uh, this is in the washington post going around again trying to organize a coup against trump. Here's the deal I'm mr. Anti-police state. He is

The police state means if I'm not he's mr. Anti-police state. He's mr. Anti-police state. We're meanwhile. Oh and shroyer is mr. Steal your girl And i'm mr. Boombastic they call me a space cowboy Just some people call you morris. Uh, some people call me Doing something wrong i'm getting messed with i'm getting surveilled i'm getting bothered not out here producing stuff being a good american When you run around saying kill the president. Let's burn everything down. Let's shut alex jones up. He's a russian agent They're actually saying i'm in a criminal investigation And this this thing he set up the state department for obama left

That's gonna ferret things out that they're looking at a vibe in connection to the russians and actually getting orders from them So at this point he's tried to do the introduction He's not going well. He's listed a couple topics that he wants to get to right michael moore's a slug right The gorsuch is cool the former head of the dod being all what they are. Yeah, but running around Calling for the uh murder trump He's just started ranting now and he's lost control of the fact that he's doing an introduction Which I think is fascinating because steve pacanik is on skype He's he's sitting there just just staring at confusion. He's like I am a doctor

I assume I assume you if you're if you're a regular alex jones guest You just kind of get used to saying one word every four or five minutes, right? Yeah, you're you you have to you know What you're getting into if you're mad at him. This is on you you have to let down your expectations of dignity Kind of a little bit if you go on his show a lot there are a few like Counter examples and actually steve pacanik is one of them Which is why this interview is fascinating. Okay, because usually steve pacanik is someone who alex gives a lot of deference A lot of ass kissing got a lot of

As opposed to someone like an ad bravo, right? Who just gets them just get some ass tonguing or jesse james has a cars cars good cars good The idea that nationalism came from the russians is crazy And now we have the federal elections commission saying we're looking at trying to go after the drudge report They're acting like trump didn't get elected now. I've talked a lot about this with dr pacanik And yes, this was regime change against the globalists. It's happening all over the world But they don't seem to care and they're just moving forward It is a big crack in their brainwashing that they're you know newness comes out says of course they're spying but

They were in hundreds of articles in the new york times of washington post saying they were spying two months ago But there was nothing in the spying so trump said you shouldn't have licked you were spying so then they go We weren't spying. We're going to impeach you You know our guest is also harvard educated a psychiatrist a lot more And now we got it now. I remember Oh shit. Yeah, there he is. Oh steve's on the sky. I got him. Hey steve Uh, so he actually still doesn't introduce him at that point. Okay ramble some more wonderful He that that at the end there is what alex thinks happened

Uh with the intelligence stuff. Yeah, the none of that is anywhere near reality But that's the way he can twist it in his head to make trump look and feel smart right where he's like Oh, yeah, trump trump was just trolling them the whole time. I like I like the I like his narrative of It is a regime change that's happening all over the world And they're acting like it didn't like they don't care. Mm-hmm so So what is it? Is it really a regime change if nobody cares? Well, if you're still just acting like everything's Not a regime change like like I mean in in egypt

Whenever mubarak was kicked out and they were just like, okay, you know what we'll do we'll kick out this military dictator Who cares we'll put in a new military dictator. That's not a regime change. No Not really no Well, like what his idea of a regime change is like against the globalists in reality what it is is a Very dangerous strain of nationalism That is popping up in a lot of countries. Yeah, and is largely being Seated and helped grow by cyber efforts taken on by the russians

By putin, right? That's what's going on, right? He interprets it as a fight against the globalists who? Well, I wouldn't say that it's entirely Like there's there's a whole lot of factors that have gone into the rise of horrible nationalist No, I know but what that's what i'm saying is right being assisted by yes Yeah, everywhere that it's popping up. You do see the fingerprints of russian involvement. Yeah That's why you see marina pan meeting with putin openly the other day. Yeah, it's fucked up. That is fucked up, right? Yeah, she's just that's so weird Yeah, like isn't that bad it's real bad like there's no way you can interpret that in a positive like oh

Thank god this far-right candidate who hates muslims and wants to end the e.u Uh and as a fascist goes to meet with punt with putin who is uh, oh, that's bad It's real bad. I don't like it. It's real bad, but i don't like it alex interprets it as a fight against globalism and as i've made clear Globalization is a real thing globalists aren't right. So he's fighting against or his idea is Against a non-existent force and what he's actually doing is holding water and Giving cover essentially to this rise of dangerous nationalism So, I mean if he gets his way, we're going to live in a nightmarescape. Yeah, uh, but hey the globalist Which is way different from what we live in now

We it's just comparatively. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. Shit sucks now, but it could be way worse It could be way worse. We did get one on the board But here's the thing even if that nightmarescape does come to pass this horrible future That could be down the road the good news is The globalists will not be in charge Because they're not now So that is a good point. It's super there will be a counter counter counter coup Or I mean at that point we're probably looking at our sixth or seventh coup. Oh, yeah, maybe eighth. Yeah, but I mean

You know, we're playing we're playing chess here All it is is just like hating the idea of liberalism and uh, and sort of liberal democracies. That's all that's all it is I mean Why why does he hate it so much? It's untraditional. Is there is there any have we ever gotten to a root? Like why well one of the things is that he thinks that liberals want to take your guns That's definitely he's big in the second amendment. Okay, so we're we're basically coming from a straight texan Like this is all about personal liberty. That's a big part of it. Gotcha He believes that agenda 21 is real and that liberals want to enforce it

Which is bullshit agenda 21 is real and liberals probably would be cool with it, right? Other than it being a terrible plan that nobody would do if agenda 21 if if we're talking about the actual un Suggestion sheet. Oh, yeah, we are talking about that one. I don't think that a lot of those suggestions are bad No, they're not they're talking about agenda 21 the version that's in alex's head the order to kill all the jedi I don't want that. Okay. We need the jedi No, I mean like it's it's all by degrees. Who cares let's get one out for quaggot Let's get into this Interview with steve pacenic

I will say ahead of time just because I had to cut out some stuff It's too long for us to listen to all of it His big points were that neil gorsuch is a neocon and should never be put on the supreme court. That's good Yep, that's good. I like that a lot. See that's what i'm talking about. That's really good Pacenic is coming in with some good stuff today. Yeah, his second point. He's bringing hot fire his second point is that uh The five percent nation should be allowed to take over the yakuub created white people exactly That's the second point of course his second point is that

It also has to do with the neocons and what have you but they are Uh, trying to get us in uh to go to war with north korea and that's fucking stupid Yes, I also agree with them on that count. Wow. So anyway, here's the introduction This is a big day for us. Here's the introduction of steve pacenic's premise While you and I are talking about other issues I'm still monitoring the rise and fall of the neocons as you know We were successful in stopping john bolton for coming in as a key player in state department Yet today he went into the white house newly found whether trump realizes this or not

Or he understands what i'm saying or a group of us who are saying we're not dilettons We're not somebody who has an axe to grind but there will be no neocons in the white house Or in the state department. Let me repeat it again. So trump and his team understands this Nobody understands this. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're the CEO of a 500 billion dollar corporation like mogulord You do not threaten north korea under any condition because you have a moron Like john bolton who's never been in military who was afraid to join our military and publicly said I was scared to get killed in the rice paddies of vietnam Sure. So breaking this down though. What do you make of the democrats? That's my question

You get to what you want in a minute, but i'm asking I get it's a distraction, but they're literally running around saying kill the president and they're not getting in trouble Alex they're not relevant Right now the democrats are not relevant. The only thing that's relevant to do and i'm going back to this point They cannot have neoconservatives coming in you can't have because not you're saying the neocons are the dangerous group And trump can't appease them Diane feinstein is not dangerous nancy polosi is not dangerous michael moore is not dangerous They've all been neutralized

What happened is thanks to you and the group and those of us who kept the revolution going the neocons who've been cowards And deprecated you me and trump snuck back in like a bunch of rats and they're back in the white house And instead of focusing on the neoconservative rise which leads with gorsuch bolton abrams All of whom have no right to come back into the administration. They were cowards They were people. Well, let me ask you this. I mean, I understand that what do the neocons want No, you don't and then looking at what's happening with korea. What's going on with china and the south china sea Alex listen to me. I know you don't like it right now. We're not on the same wavelength The neocons want america to go to war. No, I don't want to go to war. It's not that i disagree with you

I'm trying to get you to on the subject. I'm asking go ahead. Oh, shit somebody's challenging north korea Has 2.2 million men on the dmz on the the militarized zone We are 30 miles away from Seoul If john bolton has his way he had no problem of taking preemptive action Whatever that means because he's never been in the military has no strategy tactics and 2.2 million north koreans Will swarm over the dmz and literally go an hour's right into so sure So the only action is so they try to load the tomics on the missiles If you want to go to war is you got to preemptively nuke and north korea their capital

You got to hit that whole dmz line and then tell china everybody else ultimate him If you try something trump's got to deal with rusher. We're going to joint nuke china And then I guess they pop up the submarines and nuke the west coast Alex remember i've been in the business of nuclear deterrence. We took it down. We have the soviet No, I know but I mean that's the public attack plan. I mean, do you think north korea will actually take that bluff? You know what just happened there steve pochanic said you're an idiot. Yeah, that was him saying you're a fucking idiot Yeah, you wouldn't what I you know, you know, I've been in the business of nuclear deterrence The big part of nuclear deterrence is

Don't kill millions of people. Yeah, so When alex was starting this he introduced these premises that he wanted to get to one of them The democrats being evil and judge gorsuch is go is awesome. He's gonna get confirmed. Yeah one of god One of pochanic's main points is the exact opposite of that. Yeah And because alex has built up steve pochanic as this hero And this great source of information you heard in his voice you hear it in his voice when he kind of resigns himself Where he's like I mean, what do you think about north korea? He can't fight him on stuff

So all he can do is try and interrupt him and steer the conversation in a different direction Right. It's fascinating and pochanic is not having shit. No, he heard that alex. I'm sorry. We're not on the same wavelength Yeah, that was so uh, we've never heard it. We've never heard a quote like that on the show This keeps going And it ends so fucked up. Oh my god. So I listen I'm not gonna carry any water for steve pochanic, but I happen to agree with the points he's making in this episode We got one good day. We got one good day. Let's fly with it I think built into some of the reasons that he believes

Bad things bad things some of his like Arguments for the right conclusion. I disagree with but let's not split hands. The enemy of my enemy is my friend Let's do this and currently he's alex jones his enemy in that studio So he alex has just said is north korea going to take that bluff. Are they going to bluff? Here's steve's answer But with this guy running it I don't north korea is not interested in a bluff north korea couldn't care less about a sanction What north korea will do is what's best for north korea Our preparation has to do with the tactical and strategic issues of how to deal with north korea with other countries

That's what bold don't understand you you like trump. You're glad he's in you're upset to see neocons coming Not what he said and you don't think you don't think the neocons have learned any lessons It's they've been destructive to the country. What have we done? No, I'm not defending them. I can't stand the neocons You don't know Bullshit bullshit So I don't like the neocons. You don't like the neocons. Nobody likes the neocons to to be clear throughout this entire interview You can see steve pacenic continuing to talk and they cut his mic off. No Yeah, so whenever alex interrupts him they like cut his mic

They cut off steve's mic and you can see a sense of like Like almost a frustration a look of like What like that you can see in his face that he is not on board with what's going on He's trying to make the best of it right and I don't think I'm reading too much into this I don't think he's gonna be a guest for a while. Oh, yeah I don't I think alex might have like offended him. Wow. We're really getting into like some some solid schisms in between alex jones and literally everybody who likes alex jones Well, I think that for the last like year and a half or so steve pacenic has been

This source of information for alex and there's been a guru Menti kind of relationship between them. So the student Is not become a teacher He is not but I think that I think that there is a part of this where steve is trying to make some points That he wants to get through to alex and he realizes that alex is off the reservation Yeah, like I think he realizes no alex. Oh, you have your own points now. You don't just believe the things I want you to believe Yeah, it's this is crazy. So they go on to talk more about the neocons and this clip

Really illustrates and the neocons are just to come to just to you know remind everybody The reason that we fucking went into iraq and all that bullshit. Yeah, it's all those dudes We got a preemptively fucking fuck everybody over so we can get money right the project for a new american century Shit, but uh, they uh, yeah, yeah, they're awful. I agree with it. I agree with that. No, they're terrible Yep, john bolton is a we're gonna get us all killed. Yeah, very that's their goal The neocons goal is to wipe out 90 percent of chinese people. We all know this we heard it earlier We saw it. We heard it earlier in this episode, but he's playing on the globalists. It's in foreign policy All right

So anyway, this this clip illustrates that alex jones is fucking out of his league in this conversation He's out of his element. He's out of his depth And he is not a good interviewer. Gotcha because he well, we already knew half of those things right all of them actually Yes, we did they're able to co-op the conservative party They're funded by shelly adelson or they're funded by the mercers or whatever it is What they do is they tell trump agreed with him again weaker people Will be nice just as soon as trump lets us run things But then every time he lets them in they leak information that they are a group of rats

Perlman and and and and all these people are just like crazy I mean like you know about perlman prince of darkness He like showed up at cocktail parties in the news and said I kill lots of people I'm manly and the women run from him as if women want a guy to walk up and go. I'm a murderer. I kill people That's not what women want I mean, it's it's like he is totally How did a little pasty guy looks like a raccoon? I mean Ted Bundy was getting in control of things I mean, how does bolton with that big ridiculous

Mustache you're like i'm defending the neocons. I hate the neocons. So he's muted right now. Yeah So alex jones is saying all of this nonsense about Perlman. Yeah, are we still back on ron perlman because I don't think ron perlman said that stuff I don't know who perlman usually goes up and says i'm hellboy and that's good enough right and i'm willing to fight alex jones No, but but like steve pochanic wants to talk policy and alex can't no alex can't do that He can talk gossip. Yeah, and john bolton's mustache and wonk Can't talk policy. No, he's a gossip. He can talk wonk. Yeah, not policy He's a paul ryan school of policy meaning a fucking idiot. Yeah, so steve gets back in here

Looks like it's like, you know, like a big brush at the They basically they scurry away when it comes for time to come forth and do something that's morally right They didn't support you. They didn't go after their own president. They weren't able to resign What are you talking about? They came after me with all their publications and tried to stop trump I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about their publications I'm talking about that didn't go after the president of the united no, I agree Why is he gonna let people in that were his enemies in the campaign? Because he has no other alternative. I don't know why he's choosing them. I thought he's an idiot at every level

No one will appoint who he says everyone ignores his orders and says yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir And he can't get anybody in There's a total mutiny. That's what i'm telling you. He's got that state department office Running operations against him saying everybody's a russian agent. Well, what do you think of this claim that i'm getting directed by the gd russians Well, it's absurd. You and I know that russians could care less although they like you very much and they happen to like me or fear me It's not relevant. Oh shit I kind of oh shit your mama's so fat the russians wouldn't fuck her

Goddamn i'm kind of fine with that answer though from him. It is exactly it's probably the True answer. I don't think that the russians are feeding alex jones things to say I just think that they they like him incidentally It seems like he's an ally that they don't even have to Cultivate anyway, not at all like other people you got to convince and they're a compliment on them Yeah, they just smiled at alex and he's like, oh, i'm so happy that people are paying attention Alex is a like a lucky idiot. Yeah, basically. Yeah, but uh, so Yeah, I mean which is why we're getting into the circumstances we are now because before alex had any

Real world relevancy He could get away with saying any bullshit that he wanted to oh, yeah Now that people are actually paying attention, which is On its own insane. Yeah Now he's getting into trouble because he's been saying illegal shit or at the very least libelous shit Oh, yeah for so long that this is the first time that people are like, oh, oh, we better we better go after this Yeah, yeah, that's why he's so confused and angry all the time. Mm-hmm. He's like i've been doing this forever Yeah, why why are you mad at me now mommy changed? Yeah, exactly

Well, we just decided it was time for to swat you down exactly like what happened with cosby. All right Hey now. All right. Hey now. Hey So this next clip is uh, they get they get off track a little bit They've been talking a ton about the neocons They get off track because alex keeps against during the conversation in different directions Right, he keeps trying to not deal with substance. He just wants to you know, so here's a here's a I was watching the video Okay, and I can tell you that what steve pochanic ends up saying is not what he meant to say

Gotcha He meant to say something far worse. Oh, and I wish he had oh boy In fact, what's happening is a repetition of the failures that occurred from 9 11 onward And trump now will be involved with that very issue. I don't care about jarrett kushner. He doesn't know what he's doing I don't I know i'm another kushner. He's a good looking guy everything His own family gave the money What is this young guy in these meetings with trump and every different meeting like he's the boss? well

The problem is trump has to have somebody around him with whom he feels secure whether it's avonka or jarrett kushner He likes his family. Wow That's his family. That's not my problem. My problem is that jarrett Because it's like kithers. What does that say about trump? He always wants family around Let's say On the nicer edge, I can say he loves his family on on the on a more sophisticated level I would say he needs those who he feels comfortable with in order to give himself a kind of psychological barrier to deal with strangers

I think that if we I think if we parse that pochennec is dropping some insecurity bullshits But I think that the reality is that he's actually, you know, fairly senile and he has those people around as caretakers Um, I I you know, I hear this senility argument. Uh, I get why people would think that it I mean, I think he's just generally an idiot. It's not like he's ever been more than what he is now Fine. He's you can go back and he's what he is now either. He's Uh, you know been senile for 30 goddamn years It's not true though

If you go back and you watch interviews with him from like 20 years ago He he can track thoughts much easier. Uh, like he he had much more mental cognition even 10 15 years ago. Oh, really? Yeah, I haven't I the only thing I remember from more than uh However many months I've had to pay attention to him now is that he was in home alone too Okay, great. He was pretty great in home alone too. He was articulate. Oh man He said all those words. Nobody asked him to read a book once. Well, here's the thing I think that steve pacenek was being diplomatic as hell

And yeah, he's saying that trump is fucking stupid. You could see it in his face. Uh, like You could see like a smile and like uh My professional So anyway, uh, this clip isn't done, but I love that. I think that's great steve pacenek. Like you said killing it He's he's on fire right now He's an unusual jam version of steve pacenek. Boom shaka laka No, it's funny to say that you know the background on trump That's that's actually the thing is that uh,

John F. Kennedy had it with rfk Uh, you know, I don't want to get into the psychiatry of the man. I understand the man The problem is an understanding and the problem is the action that's initiated. Well, he's overcome is I don't get into it. Uh, you know, you know what he's overcome is. What he's overcome is. What what did he overcome? He doesn't want to get into it. What did he overcome? I don't know gonorrhea. He's overcome his fear of strangers He's overcome his And what who knows? Alex jones knows something that donald trump has recently gotten over. Yeah. Oh my god. I want to know

I want to know I would like to know what alex thinks but i also clap gonorrhea No aids Yeah, I mean it could be syphilis is trump are for it could be syphilis. That does make you go insane syphilis makes you crazy. That's why you need family around. Oh because they are Also syphilis busters. Oh, they're also syphiletic. So they uh double down on your syphilis logic Whatever dumb shit you're saying because they also have syphilis. It makes sense to them This is the greatest conspiracy theory i've ever heard. Absolutely instead of instead of pedophiles

We've just got everybody with syphilis everywhere. I'm okay with that if you are one of the globalists They have to give you syphilis or if you're one of the anti globalists We're recording this on saturday and they're cabals We're recording this on saturday. Did you see on twitter the pictures of the pizza gate rallies? Uh, there was a pizza gate rally in washington dc and it was the Oh man, the pictures are not to be believed there were there were Ones of people there were a couple dozen as I as I understand. Okay, this guy

Had did some great reporting on it. It's it's amazing. Okay. I fuck. I wish I remembered his name. This is stupid I'm not even giving a plug right Uh, so this next clip steve pacenic transitions to his other prong of his his thesis against the neocons Uh, which is about neogorsuch good. I'm not arguing you today. I just look I just know hillary would destroy the country I know trump's not perfect. I see him kind of sliding back a little bit And which I expected him to do he's already gotten a lot of stuff done, but I agree with you Uh, you know all these neocons that want to start all these wars. It's just insane Let's start with one at the time

Borsig cannot be nominated for supreme court just but he seems like a pretty conservative guy No, he's not a conservative. All right. Let's come back. I got a bunch of clips. I gotta get to but do a few On why you think the new supreme court guy's bad You can see you can hear in his voice and I don't want to hear this. He doesn't want to hear it. He doesn't want to hear why gorsuch is bad Well, listen to how he says steve pacenic's name as he goes out to break. Okay I'm gonna move the clips in more ahead of the next house that joins us We'll be right back ladies and gentlemen with the steve pacenic. Oh

Oh Resigned we have to be back with steve pacenic steve pacenic isn't making me feel good right now Well, we'll be right back with steve pacenic So they go to commercial break. He's it's like he's it's like he's throwing a tantrum. Yeah Like he's talking to his dad like I don't like it. I don't like the way you're talking You don't say enough good things about I'm an adult I know that neocons are bad, but I love I know that neocons Does he know what a neocon is he thinks they're trotskyites, which I guess there's some historical

I guess that's not terrible. No, but they come back from break Alex starts by spinning philosophical about a little bit of stuff. Okay, and then he gets back to uh, pacenic Who does a really I would say a pretty decent job of explaining why exactly he is against gorsuch. Awesome People ask why I like having a country Well, it's a culture. It's ideas. It's some rules. That means they always get followed. That means it's perfect We're going with the the police squad But also I guarantee no one's coming to me like alex. Why do you like having a country? People ask why I like having people ask me all the time alex people come up to me and say alex

I say what why why why alex? Do you like having a country don't you think it'd be better if we just had city states? Don't you think it would be better if we just had you? If everyone was alex if everyone was just alex and they lived exactly 24 hectares away from each other You know, it's fucked up because of the idea of infinity and infinite infinite worlds Yes, one world is that is everybody in everyone is alex jones and they all live a hectare away from each other That does exist that well in the multiverse. Yeah all things are and have happened. Yep, and unfortunately this is happening now Excellent globalism bunch of multinational

Mark zuckerbergs and eric schmitz running around playing god That's a nightmare But when you talk about the neocons almost none of them wherever in the military, they always want wars They're always talking about nuclear war will be survivable. Let's have it It really is a crazy That you have said should happen multiple times. Yep The thing that alex jones has advocated for he is now condemning In the neocons

Because daddy told him to All right, I get what dr. Steve pacanics talking about here No, you don't and I see this new supreme court justice. I think about if hillary was in who we'll be getting So so so just because why are you saying these issues with this guy? Let me put it this way For many of the people in in the audience I would love them to see a film called judgment at normberg But the normberg trials were exactly about judge gorsuch The question was asked by our

Prosecutors after the war. Why were german, nazi judges who were very sane and normal and had huge degrees from america, britain, and germany? Able to initiate laws that were against the jews gays Whatever and and they were suppressed And why would these decent people and and this judge is an extremely decent individual but during a 14 month period He cracked his decency and literally began to go into the fascist state He thought it was good to initiate a suppression of freedom or surveillance of what our our normal Freedoms are increased enhanced torture. He justified it went to gontanamo said this was the best thing he could have had

He wrote to the council on foreign relations and remember I was there and then I left That we should have a policy discussion on the need for torture And so what happened during these 14 months was to reveal the underlying nature of this so-called decent american Who was not unlike many of the german judges who were decent german judges? But they followed orders and the orders were to suppress american freedoms. He should have said no He called gorsuch a nazi Well, no, he made the he called gorsuch a nazi He made the nuremberg claim and you're like that's a little extreme, but then he laid it out really well

Yeah, you laid it out really well now the problem I have there is that's what fucking scalia was you goddamn piece of Shit pochetic. Why aren't you why aren't you against scalia? You pile of fucking garbage? Let's not litigate the dead fair enough. You know, let's just kill him again. Let's bring him back Take another illuminati Have him murdered again fucking murder him again, but like who cares we're not dealing with scalia right now That's true. We're dealing with scalia 2.0. We're dealing with the reality in front of us and I agree again with steve pochetic on this I mean, it's he's it's nuts. He's right I never liked every with people on alex's show every single thing that he just said made perfect sense

Yeah, he was working Helped put through the patriot act the fact that he went to guantanamo bay and was like this is sweet Yeah, just he's a sociopath, right? There's no other way that you can go to watch people being tortured on a daily basis and say This is good unless you have zero empathy Well, I mean that doesn't make you necessarily a sociopath makes you like a situational sociopath, right? A nazi because you just believe that they these other people don't have rights But other people who are like you do right like the jews and nazis sort of like that. Yeah, so he's a nazi

Absolutely. I'm a big fan of saying the word nazi on this show. Yeah, you are I'm not gonna go quite as far as you but You know, I Nazi ish. Yeah, I'm gonna go nazi awful awful nazi ish He goes a little bit farther in this next clip as to say that neil gorsuch Supports fascism, which is fascinating and Alex can't handle this shit. Alex can't do it At least with cheney. I knew what cheney was he was a rat He was a rat from day one and he was a rat from day five, but he never changed his stripes

This guy gorsuch was changing his stripes right and left and then stood on a self-righteous Step and said what me? I haven't done anything. I was just a lawyer No, you were more than a lawyer. You were the perpetrator and the instigator in the Facilitator of suppression of the state. That's called fascism If it's fascism for a day a week or a year that's still fascism for that reason alone He does not deserve to be supreme court justice Yeah, wow. Get him. Wow Get him

Man, I am jerking off to pechenic right now. He had a good set. That's what it was. He had a good set That's right. Yeah, so let's get through these last two. There's two more clips of pechenic before it gets to like uh The esoteric ramblings of a madman, which is obviously in response to how poorly this interview is going Yeah, yeah, no this this sent him into an existential crisis This is what your is the is the angle we're taking on this right the last two clips Pechenic has talked for a bit of a stretch and you can see alex kind of like sitting there like There's like a sense of that's the well, he's gotten more words Not working than I've ever heard a guest yet

Right like he's thrown alex jones into a full-on Shockly well because at the beginning of this in the first few clips of the pechenic interview alex was constantly trying to Reshift the argument. He even said i'm trying to get you to talk about what I want you to talk about right and he realized I can't do it. No, steve is too forceful. So he's given up more or less So as we've once again discovered alex is a bully and a pussy and when he's not allowed to bully he Sulk's he sulk's he's sulking. Yeah, but he alex jones is sulking right now like any real man would Uh-huh

He makes one last effort to sort of distract uh and change the narratives that are going on here in this next clip Right, his last one is going to get confirmed. I mean, look, I understand this but under bush the guy followed orders whatever I mean, I get what you're saying my issue is She got in with these judges. I'm worried about hillary. We're not talking about hillary. He likes to up on another plan No, I understand. We're moving forward. We can't look at the pass and judge things right up Forward I can't put back in there the people who created the problems to begin with you and I started Let me shift yours back to noon as You know, he's standing up and saying yeah, they're spying on trump. That's a good thing

It's not a quake. Of course he's there. I told you 10 years ago No, we know we know so what does it mean that the media would run this whole hoax that trump's not being spied on It's again a distraction. I i'm going back to you a hundred. Yeah, here's the thing You're a smart guy. Don't blind yourself just because you know this that the public needs to know when they're up They're saying we're liars. There's no surveillance right now. We're getting in. Well, I just said it We have surveillance but the key issue is the public doesn't know We've got 500 marines being put into Syria in a war that can't be won in a battle That was not even planned out correctly in raqqa. We have another but I mean trump promised to knock him out

You don't think they can kill those guys. No, he can't kill them You don't you don't kill so-called terrorists. No, I get it. You turn off their command and control It's you're saying the command and control is still inside the u.s. Government and then you and so much So what is trump doing 60 seconds? I'm sorry, Alex. What's going on? No, I mean I just asked a question No, he just didn't understand what the fuck alex told it. What is trump doing 60 seconds? Yeah, he didn't understand he's like what how many cars can he steal in 60 seconds How many angels can fit on the head of a pin is niggas cage there?

The mom is the doctor is oh is trump nicolas cage I can't prove he's not that's a good point So this next clip is the end of the interview and I don't want to spoil how it ends but just listen for it it's It made me It ends with a review of beauty and the beast, right? Yeah, and they're like man

I wish she had done more of the original song. Emma stone is getting not wait. Emma Watson is getting nominated I can't keep track of anybody in hollywood all the emas the end of this is Interesting. Okay. Enjoy and uh, just know that when I heard this I got a shiver. Yeah, I got a shiver in my spine The basic premise of all wars is you win it by using the head not by using guns Guns on the on the ground particularly with the marines. You've got kind and fodder I've got boys. You just came back from africa. They don't know what they were doing in africa They don't know why they were shooting at certain people They don't know why we have troops in eastern africa. I know I understand so so you don't it is literally this is a defense contractor

Uh, industrial complex again. We don't need 58 billion dollars more and in a budget that's already bloated to 600 billion I have 888 generals and admirals twice the amount I had in world war two Yet in world war two, I won two wars with george marshall and eisenhower and we never had as many generals All right, dr. Dotter machining always great talk to you see machining dot com. Thank you All right, there we go Oh, man That is not how you ended interview. That is not how you end a marital fight. That's what that was So abrupt that was a husband and wife fight right there. They need to go to couples counseling

You know why they shut it off though is because he was He was saying that you shouldn't have the the military industrial complex get more money Well, he was arguing against trump's budget basically and uh, You can't do that. Alex can't stand that you can't do that can't have that No, so he just shut down his hero steve pochennec pochennec just fucking Went to town now. You might think That he cut him off that abruptly for time pochennec just made the same arguments that I could have made probably yeah War is bad. Don't war bad. Korea. We don't need that much of a budget

I think he made a better argument against gorsuch than I could have yeah. No, absolutely That was perfect. Uh, yeah the the budget for the military is out of control doesn't need more money doesn't Should have reduced money. I cut out some parts where he was talking about how isis is controlled by the cia and stuff All right. Well, there we go. Disagree with that. There we go. All right But uh, the bigger and the thing that he talked about with uh with syria is amazing because I mean, we're we're so distracted by all the shit that trump is doing We're forgetting that trump has now killed more civilians in syria in the first two months than fucking obama did in

Years like this what we're doing in syria is insane and we can't we can't add that to our list of calamities That we're trying to deal with right now. There's so much shit going on that we are murdering people Yeah, we are murdering people and nobody can pay attention to it. Nope. That's fucking nuts The world is spiraling out of control. Absolutely can't like if you grab ahold of one thing to focus on you lose 20 others. Yeah, uh, but anyway, you might think that it's because of time that he was just like we don't have time I do not think it's because of time But I think that tone of voice in both of them says it is not because of time I think he might want to say that it was because of time, of course

But the way he fills the next half hour Before I think david knight takes over for the fourth hour Proves he could have talked to pechenic much longer because he's got nothing. Oh, no, this is nothing This is nothing, but it is I love I love it when he's got nothing it starts by him misinterpreting something from the bible And so house intel chair confirms obama administration surveilled trump. That's a longer clip from c-span Didn't do that. The first clip noon is walked it back incidental collection unmasking widely Bullshit, he got it from the white house. See their argument is trump wasn't the target

It was his building and his phone numbers and his staff wasn't that's playing the lawyer games again folks And pechenics, right? It's a distraction But if we tell you they're gonna call for overthrowing trump in a civil emergency and martial law and three months later It comes true We have to point it out because they're saying we're the fake news But it hasn't nope And it won't no if we point out trump was being surveilled. We told you exactly how studying the law And then it again comes out. We're right. We have to do it because it's not just about the regular audience

That's already awake. God love you. You're the key at everything We're trying to reach the people it's the particle sun story in the bible The the the the the younger son says I want my inheritance And the father says hey, everything's great here at our ranch or farm He goes, I want it. He goes, okay. Here's your he runs off for like five years drunk partying prostitutes blows it all Comes back the older brothers like I've been a good steward. Uh, what the hell you're having a party? That the prodigal son just came back The father looks at me goes

This is your brother You imagine what it would be like if it was you you're strong. I don't expect you to do that. This is still our family And and you know, that's what I'm coming at this Yeah, that's what he thinks the prodigal son was about. Yep Has he uh, are we sure he's ever read the bible? No, but he's read the headlines his yeah Ha ha That's it like he doesn't know how to read The texas public schools failed him. He has no reading comprehension skills. Wow

That's what he thinks the prodigal son was about as I understand it I love that conversation that he thinks The dad's like dude, you're fine. Look at this idiot. We got to be cool with him Like what's what's happening? Well, like okay, so there's a couple problems with his interpretation of the prodigal son The first is the idea in the book Or in the in the parable in the bible right that the son goes away Right and then realizes the error of his ways learns his lesson works and works with pigs willingly covered in shit comes back Uh and is welcomed back by the father and the brother is confused by it

This is your brother who was dead and is now alive. Yes, that is a celebration. Right now the problem for alex is In order for his sort of Analogy to make sense all of us at some point would have had to be info warriors who strayed And we got sort of tricked by the mainstream media And then now he wants us to come back. Is that what he's saying? Kind of yes I didn't understand the point of the prodigal son in his analogy or his using of it is these people who aren't Red pilled as it were no the people who don't who don't see the truth that info warriors

No, okay, those are the prodigal sons that he wants to come back, but they were never Sons, right? Okay, right. All right. Now the second problem is in The prodigal son the father doesn't scream at the son to come back He does He's not he's not like son your brain washed you dumb fuck the globalist son got you The globalist don't got you boy So the idea of it is a lesson learned brings you back to where you were supposed to be Not that being screamed at

Uh gets you in line. Oh man, alex is really dumb as it turns out really dumb But he still has to throw in scripture every now and again because if he does otherwise he won't get the the cred He loses his christian bona fides, right? So he goes on from here to get even weirder This clip starts with him I mean this is a perfect example of how he's just vamping. He starts with some false modesty He gets into an impression And then tells a fucked up analogy. I love his impressions I'm a big fan of his analogies. Do we get any personal history? No personal history in this episode

You know, I've become obsessed with finding out more about him. I am too while at the same time Never looking it up or doing any research of my own this analogy that he makes has some implied history Okay, and you might be able to glee that he has done the thing he discusses at the end Okay, but I don't want to say he definitely has because it's really fucked up Okay, I want to request that you don't say anything over at least the end of this clip done because you need to hear him Say this okay, because otherwise if you don't get all the words it might you might think Oh, it's not as fucked up as it is. It's super fucked up I don't expect attention to me. I'm you call to say how great I am to listen

Our country's got its legs cut off blade to death. Great. I get I'm great because I don't want to die Just let's let's and I'm not bitching that you thank me. It's just like I don't deserve it This is self-preservance Reservations The prodigal son is who we want. We want the people who aren't totally turned over to lie We want to reach out to them. So we have to point out see the government says you don't have a memory Jonathan Gruber says you're dumb. I don't think you're dumb if you start using your memory and

Get connected to god you can live I don't talk slow to be mean. That's how I've got to talk to you like mpr It's not how mpr talks trump talks to people like it's Real slow And it's not because he doesn't know that you don't already know that He's not going after you He's doing the end. He's going after the people that are on gunges and are in a sleep state sleep

sleep Come out of the sleep And I've never been scientific about all this now that i'm 40 years See what's been effective telling the truth. I understand more now So botanics all frustrated because he's all up there knowing how stuff works and involves something You know, he's a real deal. He's been involved a lot of things. He's all pissed because He's wanting to communicate with the government structuring at them to stop and that's fine. I communicate with them too I'm communicating with the people because at the end of the day, that's where their power comes from

I mean, I'm not saying botanics wrong about stuff But you know six seven years he was like we need a revolution now violent. Let's do it. I'm like, no You watch it's cultural. We're gonna win they want a violent Overthrow because they think they can defeat that we're gonna be peaceful until they attack us and then I don't take any pleasure if it's physical people like killing dumbasses that are work for the globalist, but that's That's like some dumb dog running off its back porch trying to bite you because you're walking down the alley, you know You gotta kick the dog upside the head it keeps coming at you just kind of go. I'm sorry and

Pick up an old pole or something on the side of the Alley and beat his brains out. You're kind of there's a dog all bleeding death right there. And you're just like, yeah, that sucks, man I wouldn't do that That's the same deal. I don't want to kill anybody What the fuck was that? So I told you you had to put the put the mic down. What the goddamn fuck was that? What was that? What was that? I don't understand what any of that means

All I know is that he's killed a fucking dog before and he said it came off someone's back porch. So it's someone's dog That's a super specific It's not made up analogy. That is that's why I implied that maybe he maybe killed a dog. He might have Uh, yeah, he beat a dog to death. I think that the analogy he was trying to make and failed What the fuck was that? Well, I think what he wanted to say was make me feel better I think it's like I take no pleasure in like you see a dog with rabies that's hurting and dying on the street You got a mercy kill it or something like that except he said dumb dog He did just like a dumb dog, you know like like, uh, you know, I mean if you can't wake up

You're like a dumb dog that I got a murder I gotta hit in the head with a pole. I take no pleasure in murdering dumb people But sometimes you got to murder dumbasses, you know, that's no big deal. You just murder him like a dog If you you murder dogs if you use the metaphor that he's making he is saying sometimes you got to kill people Sometimes you got to kill I take no pleasure in it, but dumb people must die. He just That's fucking nuts. He's losing it. That's wackadoo shit. That's leon wackadoo level And you you see how like lazily he's delivering this too He's so fucking spun out of control because of this interview with pechenic

Like it's all the other stuff that's going on in the world this clear lawsuit about pizza gate That's in the in the works his ad roll money going away The fact that they're looking into the bots that are promoting his website, which even if there's no involvement with russia He's going to have to realize that that means all this newfound Audience is fake. It's not real. He doesn't actually have the popularity that he thinks he has a lot of it is automated traffic And shit like that. So all of this is spinning in his head Now he's got steve pechenic on his show where he's like, all right, this is safe harbor This guy likes me

We're going to just spin some conspiracy yarns together and scare some people and fucking even steve pechenic won't play ball And now he's like Fuck, what do I do? Imagine murdering people. Yeah That's that's Like like that interview with pechenic has taken him to a violent bunch Like that's what is going on right there. Mm-hmm that whole thing is now He's responding to that the only way he knows how to with his ultra male

We got to murder people shit. Yeah, it'll turn esoteric here in a second. But before it does It was fucking nuts. He's got to start that was nuts even for alex jones I'm blown away by that nonsense Yeah, but you know, he's he's kind of like a bow to drift at this point and he's got to find something to hold on to Well, and do you remember the story of the prodigal son? I do right the son goes out After getting all of his inheritance before he deserves it. Mm-hmm and then he loses all of it just partying And then his dad murders him like a dog, right? You remember that part of the product son There's it's important and dad didn't take pleasure in it. No, no, no, he doesn't like it

And his brother's like what the fuck you're murdering my brother and he's like dude He was prodigal. He was prodigal as fuck. Yeah, I don't know PAF So like I said, he's a bow to drift and he has to anchor on to something And the only thing that he's been talking about that he It doesn't really relate back to things that he got slapped down by pecanic about Yeah, is nuñez and the wiretapping stuff. Yeah, so now he calls nuñez. Yeah, so he takes devon nuñez He uses him now as like, okay, I'm gonna use him to to steady myself

Right. So this next clip is about uh, nuñez Nuñez knows everything about this and I don't know enough about nuñez He's got some good voting records some bad voting records. I just out of all the people. He's not a coward He also was on trump's transition team. Yo So he also did not brief the house intelligence committee about his New information he instead went directly to the white house had his talking points given to him by the trump white house Not trump steve bannon, of course, which again trump as we've already established Uh, doesn't have avanka or cushioner there

Which he's starting to lose his shit because he can't communicate with people. That's why evan needs an office. Yeah, exactly exactly Speaking away. I mean like not about that, but again to the nuñez Information stuff that press conference that he did to use alex's terminology. I've reverse engineered it. Yes in the next episode It's going to be laid back. Oh, we're getting to yeah, man You are teasing the fuck out of the next episode. It's worth it. But here we go Because they're now threatening to try to remove him. They're saying he's a russian agent They're coming after him because he's the one guy In that whole

Pantheon of cowards other than rand paul coming out and saying it's ridiculous and he was called a agent of putin You work for putin You'll get people like a lot of comings. I mean, you know, give me a break, man The democratic party has been so controlled by the russians during the cold war that it's a joke And then you've got the nerve to look at people like nuñez Who's just telling the truth and say he's an evil person So i'm not in some butt kissing event for nuñez. I just recognize courage Give me a break. Give me a break. Break me off a piece of that propaganda

Yeah, uh, i'm not and i'm not it's the same thing he does with trump. I'm not kissing trump's ass He's just not great and I don't want to take credit for not kissing trump's ass I just I just don't need to yeah, so in this next clip. Uh, he cucks out steve pochanic a little bit I don't know if he realizes he's doing it, but then of course not It's the only thing he can do he does our third favorite thing which is tell a story about going to dinner I don't like seeing anybody fall to this brainwashing. I don't like seeing anybody buying of this stuff I don't feel powerful looking at michael more a total piece of crap traitor to humanity a total lying slug In this full ball what he's doing. I feel bad and i'm not lecturing pochanic

I just you talked to these guys not just him. I tell these guys on off air. You name it I am not higher up and see I had a pochanic There was the cucking. I am not lecturing steve pochanic Uh, I mean I talked to people higher up than steve pochanic on off air. You name it steve pochanic is You know, he's like a mid tier guy that I don't need to lecture the mid level guys Uh-uh steve pochanic just doesn't know all this stuff I know and I think a lot of the like a lot of this sort of response indicates to me Well, if steve listens to this show, he can't be happy with where alex went after the interview

There's no way steve listens to the show If I were him I would maybe maybe he got the maybe he got the just later on from like an intern somebody. Yeah All right, who cares And they just you're like don't worry about that. It's the big stuff the big narratives, you know, the government worry about that I fundamentally believe in broadcasting the truth everywhere. Nope and that inform the public in general about liberty and that Tyrants will disappear like phantoms at dawn to quote thomas jefferson or paraphrase him And it's not that I'm here saying I have all the answers

I just instinctively Have to try to sit there And and I mean I walked into a place yesterday for dinner And I had a couple of young attractive ladies Giggle and go oh it's alex shone's the guy that says your tv's watching you and then I realized that their lawyer Husbands or boyfriends came over to the table right after that. What oh alex shone's we we watch you We're just talking about you today and I'm oh, yeah, I'm sure you were

See the fact that I'm right Is what makes me even funnier Because they have to make it a joke that I'm so right because see then they might have to do something that their tv's watching them alex alex alex alex baby. What? Do you being right you you being right does not make you funny? No, that's not what we're laughing at Too young attractive ladies. Hell yeah, young attractive ladies came up to him not as an unusual occurrence Too young attractive women always come up to me And then their lawyer boyfriends or husbands or husbands which as we all know you can tell them

By their their muslim head scarves. Oh sure. That's what all lawyers wear No, that's what trendies do trendies wearing the muslim head scarves. Yeah. Yeah, and it so So in in that they were making fun of them, right? Yeah in that story If they were been mocking him if that happened. Yes. Yeah, that did not happen I think that maybe someone's like hey, look it's alex jones And that's it. That's probably it. Yeah, by the way, not a story No, no, it was there a point to that. Yes. He's he's funnier when he's right. He's so right that people have to make him into a joke He's not right

He is he's wrong about that. Yeah Just he's so he's so wrong about being right that he's a joke It's insane. He's a joke. He's been wrong about countless things just today I can't say whether or not he's wrong about this next thing But I do think that maybe the the lsd. He took kicked in right before this player boyfriends They're lawyer boyfriends. So, you know, they're high class I love the weird little details that he throws into this that just kind of Let's tell you know, it's a good restaurant. He's going to yeah

There's this whole like cycle like anytime you're lying you wind up putting a lot more details in there than you need to But also there's all these like little psychological things that go into there where it's like I would never speak to somebody who wasn't of a higher class Only the higher class people come up to me. Well, I go to these places where the higher class people live Like he's such a star fucker. Yeah, I mean it begs the question like how Does he know that these are lawyers, right? What did and he doesn't he very much implies that that was the end of the conversation Yeah, like there's no there's no content like if he had a conversation with them

He would have told us all about that probably and instead it seemed like they kind of just laughed at him a little bit And then left. Yeah, and they said and there's the lawyers the lawyers told me they watched we watch your show We watch your show and then they laughed at him Look, do you understand the crushing pressure that exists to be alex jones right now? I don't it's got to be fucking difficult I can't imagine the crushing pressure that because all the 23 years he went ignored is coming back to haunt him Yeah, like before no one gave a shit. That's what we talked about earlier. Now people are starting to pay attention They're like, oh, hey, fuck you. Unfortunately. He spent 20 years building a case against him Yeah, and building up a very respectable but not all that huge

audience of real Fringe weirdos. Yeah, this is this is the thing that I think He had no idea Well, this is one of the things we've talked about is that he doesn't know how to win No, and he had no idea that he would he was hitching himself to the wagon of somebody who would win Like that's the thing that really took him down because if we are giving him even that base cunning Then he had to have latched on to trump because trump was a joke

So so he pulls out this guy who is a man after his own heart pulling out nonsense left and right saying bullshit He hitches his wagon to him assuming that we can dovetail together We can lose together Exactly and that will give us both that will give us both like more of a platform To say the dumber shit that we have to say Now that he's won now people have to engage with him Well, I mean it's the same thing with what a lot of people have come out and said about the Failed obama care repealing right where there were senators that came out or excuse me house members who came out and said

We pushed for this when obama was in office because we knew he would veto Yeah, exactly. We knew it would never work now. We have a president who we know will pass it We can't posture like that. Well, one of the most brutal things. Uh, one of the uh, uh, republicans said something absolutely Uh, like the it was like a one moment of clarity where he goes, you know In the past eight years, I don't think we've ever done anything positive I don't think we've ever done anything that advances forward our ideas. We've just hearing things down We've just been the party who is trying to say no And if we don't do something positive, what are we here for?

That was the thing that a we've all been saying. Yeah And it seems like that's the first time he's ever even considered the possibility that he's a giant pile of garbage It's tough to look in the mirror. Yeah, right But my point is that alex I think is like those senators, but they accidentally like in the case house members But in this case, they accidentally passed the obama care repealing Yeah, like he joined up with trump because it's like trump is gonna lose I'm going to say that he could destroy the globalists But when he loses I can say that he was cheated out of it

Right and then we can keep that narrative going In perpetuity. Yeah, exactly. And as long as trump isn't the president He'll come on my show and say the exact same things that I say or if trump had done his whole news network Like what the idea or the the thing floated after that was then alex jones would have had a syndicated. He might have been in charge of it. He might have been on that network But unfortunately his metaphorical obama care repealing passed and now he's like oh shit He is not taking out the globalist. It is it is fascinating because the more we live in this the more it seems like trump being elected Was bad for everyone. Yeah

Trump included trump included No one on the planet. It turns out pootin actually well except for pootin pootin's probably the only person probably the Oh and white well and the pen and white supremacist and of course Yeah, but even then the other than other than like a tacit a Encouragement to commit more violence white supremacists aren't getting any of the shit that they want either No, but they're getting marketing opportunities and they're probably getting They're probably getting the most American thing you can get well, but I think they're also probably getting increased recruitment

I would assume I would say so or at least uh a like The ability to be more free with your idiotic nonsense sure and even if it's in the negative even if it is against The media talking more and more about people who have bigoted positions Only emboldens people to be like oh wait. I feel that way too. Yeah It's it's almost like they are finally realizing what it feels like to be gay and or trans and come out of the closet Dude like do you know how do you know how more comfortable you are in your own skin when you don't have to hide who you are Okay, so oan shroyer and leon macadoo Didn't interview with I can't remember her name, but she used to be in the pussycat dolls

OT in the wax as I like to call them sure They they did an interview with this gal who was in the pussycat dolls and left and is a trump supporter Great and so they're talking they're talking to her and she's describing the experience of realizing that she's conservative Exactly like yeah people talk about right and it's it's like I I mean can't you just make that one Small connection. Well in her case to be fair. She does talk about how she supports the lbgbt community Oh good for her. So she I mean that's she's a yeah, that's dumb It's a bigger issue for other people, but like in her case. That's not you can't do both now

What do you I you can't be conservative and yeah, you can't do both now If there's a full acceptance Then maybe we can go back if there's a full acceptance of the lgbt community Maybe you can go back and say well. I am a fiscal conservative And also a person who accepts that but for right now All you are saying is that I am willing to Marginalize millions and millions of people. I am willing to watch them kill themselves So I can get tax breaks. Yep. That's what you're saying

Later on Later on after all of this All the bigotry in the world Has gone away. Yeah, then we can get back to how conservatism is fine. So never but exactly Jordan we got a couple more we got a couple more clips and you got a show tonight. So let's do it This is where shit gets esoteric. This is a riddle And it's just answer me these questions three alex jones I mean, this is where he turns internal and is just really discovers himself

I don't know what's going on, but he's struggling. Okay And then everyone tries to climb that staircase to heaven So they can be over other people. What the hell is that? Because anybody that's been down in a valley at night with the stars out and the trees around you And a bonfire knows the valley is the stars You're already in the stars You're already in the universe. You're on a planet beautiful and rich and beautiful beyond imagining and Down in the valley is the highest point

There's some poetry for it. What is happening? Let's see people keep thinking they can Go up up up really all they're doing is like down down down Does that mean you don't become successful or have wealth wealth is to protect yourself and take care of those you love And to build it's not so you can sit there like a peacock. I can't live in a rich area Can't live around those people Because on average, they're so soulless. There's some people that are nice But you can't live anywhere. He's a little bit of blue collar area. They're all freaked out But who's got more money or whatever as if that's some symbol of who's got a bigger soul

Who's got more will who's got more strength What are you talking about alex? What was that? You're in the valley and you realize the valley is the stars. This is this is did our That might that might be part of the you like the uh, here's what I say Dionysian I see church. I see a junior high Uh camp a junior high summer camp Everybody's sitting everybody's sleeping in the dorm all of a sudden one kid wakes up and goes Guys, do you do you believe in god? Do you believe there's a higher power? And that's when this shit goes down, right?

I don't know if that kid's gonna talk about not being able to live in rich neighborhoods I think that's exactly what that kid that kid because it's the one it's the one poor kid at the rich summer camp That's what's going on. That is alex jones alex jones He got the poor kid. He got like a waiver to go to camp canna cook and he showed up there It's like camp fuck the poor. Yeah, I mean I went to a like really rich Christian camp and I'm not from money. I grew up poor I worked at a god camp for a month. Oh, Jesus. Let's not get into that brutal. That's for another day Uh, this is fucked up and it starts out fucked up and uh,

Oh, oh boy If I could slit my throat Oh boy and pour my will out into humanity and die right now that made us the things people I would do it. Here's the secret. I'm not even that strong I have Awareness of my will though in history and that's why I have effect on them and if the people Ever realize this and the bushfires of liberty ignite. They're going to be Charging out of the mist

Individuals that will be a hundred times more effective than I've been right now. I'm still waiting for them That I know it's coming And so the globalists should know this Trump is only the first level of this event It's going to get bigger. It's going to get quicker. It's going to get stronger We are the humans that built all this the elite believe because we built this they're god and they're going to cut us off You will then see what humans really do under stress once we have a platform to build on You can't just manifest with your mind magically in a cave 10 000 years ago

You could envision though and those dreams became what we have now. We're now On a launch deck looks like he knows the secret That's unlimited and the elites know that and they're so jealous. They're so angry. They're so upset They don't know what to do because they're sitting around not even knowing how to use what they've got Because they didn't develop They're falling even further than we are And that's why everything they use we develop Turns into some nightmare because we've got bad people in control of those systems

This is why he had to cut off steve pacenic This is what he needed to fill his fucking time. I showed you on my notes I have just written in the largest possible letters Please go to therapy. Yeah, please go to this is a therapy session. Alex. You need analysis. This is not good This is he just he is he is considering suicide right now That's really what he's doing. I mean, it's it's sort of an artful expression of it at least It is like if I could if I could give of my life essence to create The energy that's needed

To stop the globalists my sworn enemy, then I would do that That's not really a threat of suicide But it is violent language right after talking about murdering a dog. I swear to god. This is emily dickinson He is emily dickensinning right now. You think so? Oh, yeah This is crazy. I mean the the part about like This is only going to get worse and it's going to keep happening faster and faster I agree with that's not emily dickinson But no, but I agree with him on that in terms of like, uh, you know the propaganda and the way the internet is radicalizing people

And stuff like that. It's only what he's doing. Yeah, it's only gonna get worse What he's doing is only going to get more insidious, but that's what he's saying. He's threatening the globalist That's what's going to happen. He just doesn't realize that he is the problem It's not this make-believe group of globalists. Yeah, I mean everybody thinks they're the hero of their own story I don't I think I'm a piece of shit fair enough. Yeah, I don't I think I'm a side character in my own story This story is about I don't even know what it's about my cat. Maybe I don't know Uh, this is a story about uh, you growing up in south philly, right? Okay, I don't know the rest of the words

I never watched fresh print fresh prints fresh prints Anyway, this next and last clip is sort of where he ends off Uh, before handing the baton to the fourth hour host And he's back tonight. I think it's david night. I'm not sure. I can't remember. Oh, no this on thursday It was uh, our boy batman. Oh, okay, john rapaport. Just talking more about vaccines being bad Great. He is the worst. He is the worst. He's talking about how like the nih is getting unfunded. He's like, of course it is great Fuck you. I hate it. Fuck you rapaport. Yeah, no kidding. Uh, but anyway, go back Go back to your fucking bushes batman. Also

Picture is still not hung up. I can confirm that. I uh, I was thrilled to see that picture still on the ground What do we need to do? I think we could find him on twitter. I think we could find him on twitter, right? I'm gonna find him on twitter He doesn't have twitter. Uh, I bet he does. I'll find him. I'll tweet at him and we'll let you know We need we need to we need that pic That is now my only goal like eventually if we get beyond the picture, that's fine. Sure. I want that picture hung up You know, uh, people in productivity circles like to talk about, uh, having actionable goals You know, we can't we can't we can't solve the alex jones problem and we can't get that picture fucking hung up

We can't sit around and say we want to have a great podcast. That's not an actionable goal What you can say is i'm going to tweet at john rapaport and ask him why he doesn't hang up that picture So I will do that. Anyway, let's get to this last clip. This is again He's now fallen back to nunez, but it still has some of this esoteric language in it and uh, boy, he's wrong and now nunez Transcends from the realm of the normal man into the arena of the real man. Wow This is fucking and that's the arena that donald trump and many others are in And that's the arena that other people need to aspire to be part of

Because when men start trying to be men again and actually stand up for what's good and honorable and women start trying to be men again No, then we'll have a civilization Only when men start acting like real men again, will we have a civilization? I feel like historically that's not how it works Generally when men start trying to be real men again, they tear down civilization civilizations fall. Yeah, isn't that how that works? Yeah But pretty sure roam happened be that as it may I mean it is it's good that that's where we're going to jump off Because that's a perfect encapsulation of a lot of alex's life philosophy. That really is. Yeah, you must be real men

Dudes Let's all be dudes, bro. Bro. His masculinity is so threatened by this hypothetical fake group of globalists Uh, and he has to fight back against it I don't I don't know what's going on in alex jones's world, but you're right. He needs to get therapy He needs to get therapy. There's so much. There's there's so much going on like there's In the world, but like you you nailed this. This was such a strange like up and down of His emotional state Where he's going in life like this is crazy the interview falling apart and him turning really dark and fucked up

Yeah, is it is it's connected. Oh, absolutely. You're watching a psychodrama. No, there's no doubt those two are connected It is a psychodrama in radio show form at least this episode Uh, and it's fascinating, but when I was saying there's so much going on what I was talking about right now There's a prairie home companion right and then there's info wars in the two greatest what the fuck is happening shows right now Yeah, uh, but like the in terms of info wars. There's so much going on It's insane. It's never been like this. No, this is crazy There are they're part of an investigation into russia espionage They're apologizing for pizza gate

they're Lost their funding It's crazy. This is I read unsubstantiated reports that they just had to fire some people Really? I don't know if that's true or not, but it seems to fit. I mean it does. Yeah, that that is kind of what would make sense There's talk that like within the next week. They could be Shuddering business. No, I don't think that's not possible. That's wild internet speculation But with all of the chaos that's going on Things are going to get so exciting alex jones would

And I'm I'm being 100 serious right now alex jones would kill himself if info wars ended I'm being 100 serious and I'm quoting dito here because I love dito along with kink. We learned so much about you He would go down with the ship. Yeah, absolutely. He won't put his hands up in surrender No, there will be no white flag above his door Oh, no, no, even if it well the next time that song is i'm in love and always will be it doesn't quite match up But the other three lines work. I will say that in my experience. He's a lot like a bird who will never fly away That's not or who only flies away. Um, that's I know he doesn't know where his home is

Uh I don't I I No, you know, you know what? I'm wrong. Here's here's more what I would say. Okay Whether or not info wars itself as we know it dies He will do a For our youtube video every day. He might just have to go back to his roots Yeah, in his in his home. He will set up an iphone He can't and he will do a youtube show

I can't imagine how expensive it is for him to do what he does now But he could do the exact same thing pretty much for what we could pay Which is minimal he might just do a podcast if info wars ends he might do a podcast and right now I am putting out the call alex jones. You could join us when info wars ends Come on our podcast join the knowledge fight join the knowledge fight network. We're gonna. Oh also speaking of which we gotta get out of here But one piece of big news Uh, you know how alex has been talking about wanting to create more programming. Uh-huh. There is a new program

Oh, no, is it a music show? Nope. That uh, fuck k blaze is still out in the cold Fuck but it is the rob and owens show It's rob do and owens shroyer co-hosting a show Wow and that sounds Horrific it's one of the most unlistenable things i've ever heard that sounds truly horrific. I listened to one episode and it was They have no chemistry. Of course not owens shroyer seems to not want to be there. Rob do is terrible on the camera Yeah, it's oof if that's your first volley of new programming buddy Hire us you gotta get it together

Anyway, we've got a we've got a rapport if you want to hire us alex you can find us at knowledge fight dot com Oh Shit You can also follow us on uh at knowledge underscore fight correct and at knowledge fight dot com I want to give a little plug to this we have uh living biography of alex jones in progress Yep, we're putting up little pieces of his personal life. That sounds worse than this We are stealing little pieces of his personal life and putting it on the internet We're taking clips of him talking about his childhood and his life and creating a biography

In real time also, uh, there's there's a lot of content over there. Go check it out And uh, thanks to at future slot for uh giving us a little bit of a shout out on the av club That's pretty cool. Uh, that is that is very nice also Here we go. Let's give a little shout out to uh underscore oz underscore underscore underscore underscore who may or may not be listening to this now That is a solid twitter handle right now. I can't tell if you were making fun of us on twitter or not, but uh, feel free to continue You said you were going to follow us on uh itunes If you have thank you very much if not go suck a lemon

Old school you are very defensive. I don't know man. I have a very complicated relationship with with having fans um Also, if you want to email us you can reach us out. I like you guys at uh knowledge fight at gmail dot com You got it. Thank you guys so much for listening. We'll see you soon for that episode that I've uh built up really Really hard. It's gonna be a huge disappointment. But in the meantime, let me ask you dan What are we just uh, I don't know like a policy walk. We're a couple of policy walks Andy and kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alexa my first name color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you