Knowledge Fight - #251: January 8, 2019

Episode Date: January 11, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how Alex Jones decided to cover the idea that Donald Trump was threatening to declare a national emergency in order to get his wall made. In a turn of events that will surprise no one, it all turns out being a very racist affair, where Alex makes it way too obvious that he really, really wants to serve a dictator.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a person color. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones Indeed we are Dan. Yes, sir. Hi You ever play Super Mario The RPG Seven stars. I don't wait. I know I played Paper Mario. No, not the same way the original one

Is the SNES one didn't play that but I played the shit out of the thousand-year door Uh-huh and that next one after that Super Paper Mario, maybe I don't remember. I never played the paper Mario You I don't know. Are those are those RPGs? Yeah. Yeah. Oh really? They're fun as hell But then the the Fell apart the Paper Mario series fell the fuck apart. Oh, no, what happened the Wii U one Involved like it got torn in half. Yes. There we go. All right Crumpled up and thrown in the garbage It was just not all that fun. Uh-huh as I recall the Paper Mario one about the paint

You have a hammer and you go around and it has paint in it and you hit things and you recolor the world It just was not not fun. It got very tedious. Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all But the thousand-year door was super fun. It was really good. Mm-hmm liked it a lot. I don't know what else to tell you I liked it a lot. I have heard good things about the seven stars That was I've probably played that game like 15 times and I There's the awesome games done quick marathon going on right now. Interesting, which is a It's like a massive speed run kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and all the it's all about donations to a Non-profit in the you know, that's that does all the cancer research and shit like that

Mm-hmm, and I love that game so much and I found out that somebody was speed running it on ADGQ and I was like, oh fuck so I've been watching I've been I've literally been watching a guy play Super Mario for the past two hours. Oh, yeah, fucking amazing. I love it He's so good at a game that I was okay at and it's an RPG. There's something gratifying about watching people play something You've played very fast. Yeah, I don't know why but it is weird Well, I mean, that's a good game. It's nice to reflect on that I told you before the show. I've started playing Hollow Knight. Yes. I'm super into thank you to my buddy Matt Crane for the recommendation on that one I like it. I'm not good at it, but I like it

End up wandering around places for a good two hours. Oh fuck am I supposed to go? Still the art in the music of it. It's just delightful gameplay is fun Fanta. This is now a video game. I might as well be this is about we were on Twitch for a while I know a lot about Alex Jones and I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones. That's correct it's been an interesting week here on the podcast with Bill Cooper episode on Monday and then a wacky Wednesday John Waterman not Dr. Waterman not a Dr. John Waterman on Wednesday, but now it is time for us to come back to Alex Jones and the world of info wars and today what we're going to be going over is a little bit of a

A snapshot of the life of Alex Jones in 2018 or sorry 2019. Hey checks. There we go We're gonna be going over January 8th 2019 yeah, his show and then his live broadcast that he did that evening when Trump was giving his speech from the Oval Office Okay, now historically when we've gone over a show Mm-hmm, and then there's a live broadcast immediately after that that live broadcast is Drunken and angry. He's a he seems a little drunk, but don't get your hopes too far up on that It doesn't go four ways to learn okay. All right, but he is a little bit unhinged and it'll be interesting to look at But first we have to give a shout out don't have to we would like to give a shout out to a couple people who've signed up and are

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Hey, I'd like to support this show and what these gents do you can do that by going to our website knowledgeflight.com Clicking that button that says support the show We would appreciate it. Please do it. It'd be very helpful now We get to our business at hand and one of the reasons why I was a little bit reluctant to do any Alex Jones content this week Well, it's because I think I told you off-air the 2009 stuff hit a little bit of a snag There's a little bit of boredom on Alex's part back then right in our chronology And so I didn't want to get into that and then at the same time there was all this talk on

Trump's part and in that world that's fear about the idea of Trump declaring a national Emergency in order to get the wall made right and I knew that that was gonna play out in a particular way But I didn't know exactly how it was gonna play out I kind of got the sense that all of this was much due about nothing and people were getting all worked up and and it was Going to be you know kind of disappointing. It's gonna be a dud That was kind of the sense I got but I didn't want to cover it until we actually had content to go over And so January 8th is Tuesday's show. There's no way we could have done that before this episode Of course and so when I checked in on the second I found Alex in a very fucked up mood

This mood is I mean it's vintage Alex Jones But it's pretty fucked up to be to be seeing this and we'll get to all that but first here's an out-of-context drop from today's show Gavin Newsom ladies and gentlemen, you better believe he is it He is The devil, okay Oh So it is bad in this situation. Yeah, okay. He is it. He's the the great Satan the Gavin Newsom, I wouldn't bet on that. I would not have bet on him a little bit of a surprise

You know what? But that's a good bet now that I think about it in retrospect You never would have guessed that it was the devil his reasoning is that he's slick And that sort of thing in an up-and-comer in the democratic world and he thinks he's gonna be the one who they try and unseat Trump with And so that's why he's labeling the devil Gavin Newsom is the one that is a weird pick strange bet But we'll see how we'll handicap all that I'll give that 15 to one odds So like I said, Alex is in a weird mood He knows that Trump is going to be giving a speech that night and Alex in this first clip. He starts his show

Very clearly indicating that he knows what Trump is gonna do Quite a time to be alive my friends Trump's gonna declare a national emergency tonight It's already been declared privately and The globalist are crapping themselves both publicly, but also the looks on their faces if they're being led up before a firing squad There's an important break now and we come back from break. I'm gonna lay out tomorrow's news today

Stay with us ladies and gentlemen. So he is making it very clear That Trump is going to declare a state of emergency. He knows it. It's going on behind the scenes already fucking knows It's gonna be made official tonight. All the globalists are crapping themselves and Alex is pumped Now there's some contradictions and Alex's historic rhetoric that I want you think of what I want us to put a pin in that until we get through this because I think there's a greater Conversation we can have about that later That I think we'd be doing a disservice if we jump the gun on it, but anyone listening. We are not not noticing It's weird for Alex Jones to be excited about a president declaring a national emergency. So you're saying that Alex Jones is

Super excited about the president of the United States declaring a national Emergency in order to circumvent the other branches of government taking unilateral action it to achieve a goal It seems weird. It seems odd. It seems like it's counter to a lot of his stated Beliefs about the power of the executive and what have you low bet But you should understand that it's coming from a deep place in Alex's heart And I think it's a place where he thinks the end is coming The end of his personal struggles the end of his turmoil his battles in many ways I believe listening to this episode that Alex thinks that once Trump declares the state of emergency

It's game over for the globalists and finally Alex Jones walk not have to do this So here is a clip that really leads me towards that and the joy is a Godfair in person To feel the Holy Spirit smiling over what you do Closer to God's and ever and that makes the globalist get so upset. Oh, he's gonna commit suicide. He's close to God He's crazy. No, we just think you're weird Increase whatever my cells my genetics who I am my ancestral memories. Oh boy intellectually what I understand is just Little my cells to none everything or hmm. This is what we're supposed to do. Good job hired Nikite

Because there's been a total shift in just the last month across the planet he's talking about Bolsonaro and Now everything we've talked about and everything we've done He's going to now just become mainstream So that humanity has a choice of what decision they want to make to be seduced by the globalist And by the high-tech gadgetry of the Antichrist Or God, I didn't know the Antichrist was famous for a high-tech gadget in to the plunge down the road This is the preparation for that get some air before you get sucked under But then we're gonna pop back up on the other side and that's the victory like a golfer and it's all proceeding according to God's plan

So this is pretty fucked up. It feels a little apocalyptic in many ways. It feels very apocalyptic It feels like he's saying we're getting our bearings together For what will be the grand final battle between us and the globalist? Yes, and the people who are on our side or people like Bolsonaro in Brazil, right? It's it's weird. It's a little weird for me quite frankly to To come to this place now Having as much of an understanding of Alex's path through like it all makes total sense But it's also so weird that this is how it it's shaken out. It's disappointing

It's it's really really bad, especially with Bolsonaro Having as much power as he does right now like it's it's really Something that everybody should be aware of Right now Bolsonaro is going to do more damage to the climate than I think any single person could possibly do It'll be a disaster. No, I mean if he well once he Declares open season on the Brazilian rainforests being cut down totally. We're fucked like that's that's a we're never going back It's a very undoable. Yeah sort of thing Yeah, that's that's one of the major concerns and the human rights questions are deeply important. It's it's it's wild

It's just wild to me man But hey final battles coming at least final battle. I mean that it's the time for the angels and demons the globalists and I guess us or them or who so What you failing to recognize it when you look at the conception of this final battle that Alex is envisioning is that no matter What happens Trump wins really? Let me tell you what Trump's up to what if he loses? He's already declared a national emergency He's going to officially do it Tonight and there's a bargaining chip of where oh if you just capitulate to what I want and build the wall It'll be such a sting defeat for the Democrats Trump won't openly announce the emergency

so there's a little bit of nuance in the parlance of The nomenclature word salad and the symbolism but Either way Trump wins by taking action and The enemy came and sued for peace two years ago 21 and then lied the whole time and said we'll work with you just don't destroy us And then he just can't believe like you won't be destroyed your criminals You'll still have your wealth and you still want to screw the country over because you've got some spiritual hard on to defeat it Trump's Trump's not aligned with the devil folks. All right, Trump's not aligned with the devil not aligned with the devil. No, I

Don't understand Exactly what effect declaring a national emergency privately has Well, I declare a national emergency privately between you and me It's already been declared the power of the executive If yeah, but you have to then use that power in order for it You can't privately declare it like Trump can't privately be like taxes are free now. Yeah Yeah, it doesn't mean anything right right. It's sort of in the same bundle as the Q and on secret indictments and stuff But what he what Alex is trying to convey is the idea that privately he's been like we're gonna do this

Yeah, in order to try and bring the Democrats to heal or whatever and then when they don't he's going to tonight on January 8th Openly declare the state of emergency be like I tried to let you guys just do this on your own That's what he's that's what Alex is bringing to the table. Okay, and because the Democrats won't go along with him and build that wall Oh god, he's going to declare this national emergency in order to build the wall and Alex is fucking pumped about it He loves it. Is is Alex super pumped about the years-long legal challenges that are going to come from this national emergency No, I'll tell you what he's pumped about the eminent domain that's gonna be involved Private citizens having the government sees their property. That's great. Alex doesn't have a long history of being against eminent domain

Look, this is all this is all whack. It's all very whack But what I have to insist is at this point on this episode so much of this is not about politics at all And yeah, what he's bringing to the table. There's a deeply religious feel to it Whether it's talking about this sort of Armageddon-esque battle We're getting air in our lungs to prepare for or this next clip where he just can't like he can't stop quoting Country songs in order to demonstrate how right he is with God the mentally ill narcissistic Fruit loops

Are being told to fill their hand politically But and they can't stand the fact that they can't scare us and they can't make us run It's like the old Redneck anthem country boy can't survive because they can't starve us out and they can't make us run Because these old boys were raised with shotguns We say grace we say amen And if you ain't into that, we don't give a damn

Which is saying we're not hypocrite Pharisees We'll take the lord's name in vain when we get angry, but we'll die for god. Wait, isn't that hypocritical? Because we're not perfect, but we're aligned with god not anyone who breaks my commandments. Are we sure as hell know the devil? Shall be put to death I fought with the devil got down his level But I never gave in so he gave up on me another song. That's why I know the devil. I know the devil well Save a horse. So ride a cowboy Beer for my horses Yeah, I just it's a weird mental state and i'm playing some of these clips that seem like a little bit dumb

A little bit to demonstrate this mindset that he's in he's in a very Sincere mindset that is tonight. It's going down. I got to talk about the end of the road I got to talk about how right we are with god and granted he does touch on those topics quite a bit It's not out of the ordinary, but the amount of it the extent that he's being very apocalyptic. Yeah very Religious like the first half hour or so this show even goes went by and I was like There he's nothing here, but preaching like this is almost a televangelist kind of thing Did he did he just start me? Did he start the episode with just like and the seventh seal shall be broken

Once trump speaks from the oval office. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it has that feel to it Yeah, and it makes it all the more scary that it also includes him saying shit like this In fact, I'm not scared of the globalist. Uh-oh I'm scared of overheating and getting too aggressive and just being as wise as a serpent and peaceful as a dove Until god executes vengeance through us Through us And the time for vengeance is not yet Thank god

What but the time of vengeance will come And vengeance is right Vengeance is good Say it the lord against the evil. It's mine And they know already know they're gonna feel that's why they're wearing a claw as many of our children as they can Because children don't know and they're weak. There's no way to defend them. So these weak demons can just drag our children But you know god spares their children souls That's good

Is I guess I don't like his god I'm gonna go to break then when we come back i'm gonna try to get to the news and break down what's about to happen Good luck. What is he doing? This is fucked up. He is weird. I mean on the one hand I'm super glad that the time for vengeance isn't now that is a relief But it does imply that the time is fast approaching and it comes through and it will come through us Out of his righteous vessel of vengeance that the lord is going to demonstrate against his perceived enemies Not even they're not even real enemies quite frankly Hillary Clinton mentioned him once in a speech

I Really wish somebody would get him a bible with like large prints So maybe he can read it because he seems very uninterested in what the bible says I would love it if there was a bible that was rewritten Uh to sound like a country lyrics Then maybe he might start to get some of the lessons That are uh contained therein yet But it does go back to like alex has a very like weird

Version of christianity that he subscribes to that. I don't think it's fair to call mainstream I also don't think it's fair to call it any sort of sect that i'm really even aware of Like it's there there are touches of gnosticism in there. There's touches of like over emphasis of the old testament Uh, which isn't bad. It's not wrong to you know, uh subscribe to the old testament It's just weird if you're a christian because of the new testament The the the entire point of the christian in your in your moniker. So it's it's strange I don't I don't understand but it's it's a bad place Um, so at this point in the episode alex announces that he's going to uh cover trump's speech live

Which at this point had been sort of unclear Um, and he makes it clear also that he knows what's going to happen How many the decision yesterday afternoon? Obviously, we're going to cover president trumps Live oval office speech at 8 p.m. Central 9 p.m. Eastern 7 p.m. Mountain 6 p.m. Pacific Trump declares national emergency to save america So there'll be an hour break from the war room and then you just go to info wars.com port slash show or the main page

you'll see live coverage of that and I'm asking all listeners to go to info wars.com and news wars.com. I'm gonna ask uh paul And I'm gonna ask uh millie weaver and others some band on twitter to tweet this image out so you can retweet it So that people know that is coming up tonight because we did predict it. We did lay it out. We it's going to happen You thought that was going to be an ad pivot probably. I really did. Yeah The way he's playing with the paper and talking about go to a website and stuff now

It was just I'm banned on twitter so other people got to do this for me And also it's clear. He's saying it repeatedly. We know this is going to happen. We predicted it all that stuff Yeah, as somebody who lives in tomorrow's news today, you're gonna be real disappointed at it's uh knowing what we know We know it didn't happen. No, but it's interesting. It is important to focus on this This is alex's editorial position entirely. This is going to happen tonight. Yeah, we have predicted it Absolutely going to happen tonight and we're going to be there covering it So he starts yelling about some dumb shit. Uh, and then he says this You hate america. It's who you are about the god bless. The night circuit ruled american flags or hate symbols. It can't be in schools

That's an old one. Uh, san francisco doesn't like the american flag You know the enemy doesn't like your flag. It's pretty damn obvious Couldn't be more obvious. It's more obvious than the nose on our faces And we just try to debate him or oh, let's not say anything or the media the media's enemy Operations, you better be attacked by these trash or you're not doing your damn job They literally they don't just lie they organize the line They put out the talking points and they regurgitate lie upon lie upon lie Briefly to find out where you're talking to alex. There it is. We have three products

That in the new year are 50 off. Oh my god. What a sale almost like technical to your old sale Oh, is the is the christ is the christmas sale still going on? Yeah, I think under a different name We have the 1000 days of christmas sale going on well into the next three years Still just trying to clear out that warehouse of his old product so we can shift entirely to jenesse stuff Um, but look the the thing here is that the ninth circuit. That's an old lie. It's fun to see that come back up Yeah, for anyone who hasn't heard the episode we recovered that in depth the situation was about sinco de mayo and people White kids at that school intentionally wearing american flags in order to wasn't sinco de mayo, was it?

um, I don't recall exactly, but it was the the story was White kids were being racist as fuck right in the guise of antagonize mexican students Yeah, yeah, it's evidenced by fights that they antagonize exactly instigated And so the court case went that the school has the right to not allow Uh, people to wear certain like any kind of flags on days like that. Yeah, they have the right to it doesn't Uh, it doesn't inhibit the students free speech or, uh, whatever other rights they have No, it's exactly like saying you can't wear gang colors Like when you when you're co-opting the american flag to be a group of people

Who want to commit violence right that's a gang symbol now to an extent It's not an outright ban of the american flag or anything like that, but alex is using it as that So that's the first thing from that clip that's important The second thing is what you hear there is alex demonizing the ninth circuit with a lie Which is him Complaining about the judiciary complaining about the courts and how they're really bad Then he talks about the media and how the media is really bad. Yeah, hold on to those thoughts. Oh boy. They might come back up Okay, so at this point alex starts complaining about how mark dice has been thrown off facebook

We we we were fighting the apocalypse. Yeah, it seems like a petty little move there Just step down way down way down the uh the ladder of importance in hierarchy of importance The final battle between good and evil between the angels the demons between the globalists and the patriots has come upon us and by the way What why aren't you letting mark dice back on facebook? Honestly, I think that what happened is that this falls in one of the every hour He has like five minutes that don't go out on the radio remember we talked about this Yeah, yeah, yeah because of like station identification on on uh like some tuscalusa channel or whatever

So he has that no man's land where it doesn't matter what he plays. It's not going out on the radio Yeah, yeah, so I think he buries like john bounds reports there And he plays this report by mark dice in one of those no man's lands But it's really important and what's going on here. There's an interesting story behind it and Mark dice is being a a complete jackass and he deserves everything that came to him So alex is saying that he got thrown off facebook because of something that was deemed racist Now here's a little taste of mark dice's report Facebook locked me out of my account for seven days and censored this post

Because I simply stated the fact that the only reason that the story about the seven-year-old girl Who was tragically shot and killed in houston went viral is because the suspect initially was white So every black lives matter activist on social media started tweeting about this terrible white terrorist who killed this poor innocent girl Only it turns out that the murderer was actually a black man By now they've all forgotten her name and don't even remember that the name is in toya brown. No jasmine. Oh, that's right That was a different dad. Damn it. That's a different kid. Toy was out. Fuck. It's actually jasmine barns. Yes Yeah, I was talking about it. Oh, fuck. I'm an idiot So, uh, look dude, here's the thing first of all, I've not watched much of mark dice's reports

Yeah, uh, because why would I why would you and I accidentally watched some of this and it's crazy, man His delivery isn't sane. He looks like a lunatic and he's like constantly not twitching but doing like weird movements While he's delivering these lines like just listening to the audio doesn't really do its service He seems like a lunatic while he's doing this. Yeah, and I don't know what it is There's some sort of aesthetic style that he's going for maybe he knows that him just sitting Like still isn't good for youtube or something like that. No one's gonna be entertained by his dumb face And so he moves around a lot in like a spasmatic way and it's very distracting But anyway, I watched mark dice's video and suffice it to say it deserves every label it's getting it is racist

It's inflammatory and it's just a pile of shit from a quality standpoint Alex is playing this report saying that he's been kicked off facebook But in the video as we just heard mark just says that he got suspended for a short time That you just get a little time out So what I want to say is that these fucking snowflakes need to stop exaggerating their oppression number one And here's the real point I want to make mark's chief complaint seems to be that these black lives matter sjw's We're only interested in this story because they thought it was a chance to attack white people But the same is true of mark dice

He's only interested in the story because it gives him an opportunity to defend white people and attack black people You understand that I I don't are you saying there's some sort of irony to it His only point is exactly what he's complaining about in these supposed other people Which is weird. It seems like a bad starting point for your editorial position, but whatever Also an added problem is he has no idea what he's talking about Seven-year-old jasmine barns was killed in a drive-by shooting and the family initially said the suspect was a white man in a red truck This turned out not to be accurate as firsthand accounts often are And officials from the sheriff's department have gone on record saying that they believe that there was a red truck at the scene

And this was a case of sincere mistaken identity and it was nothing suspicious Also two men were arrested for the killing not one as mark is suggesting Also black lives matter activists didn't just blindly blame white people and then forget the story when the narrative didn't fit That's what info wars does In reality shan king one of the leading figures of the black lives matter movement Is literally responsible for tipping off the police that the shooters were larry woodruff and eric black jr Not a white guy in a red truck Do you understand what i'm saying because what i'm saying is that a prominent figure in the black lives matter movement

Went out of his way in order to help police find the actual killers because he cared about the truth Not just scoring points making white people look bad. I don't understand It's very interesting. No, he stopped caring once they found once he So if i understand the story correctly shan king received a tip from one of his confidential sources And because of that tip he found out that it was two black men And so he of course sat on it and never told anybody and instead Yeah, yeah, right? That's what he did now the case is a little complicated because after a mug shot was released of the original suspect shan king posted a picture of a man who looked almost identically like the mug shot

And asked followers for more information on him if they had any this absolutely led to some unmerited attention to probable harassment Definite harassment being placed upon this man being directed towards him But it also literally led to the tip that solved the case as shan put it quote as strange as it is I'm not sure we ever would have found the man who killed jasmine barns had the initial conclusion not been so wrong I was brought into the case to track a potential hate crime what I found was something altogether different But I don't know that anyone would have ever come forward without the outrage I don't quite know what that means or how I feel about it But the initial outrage misguided as it was is what eventually helped us find the killers

So if you're a white supremacist outlet like info wars mark dice or the daily caller You can focus on the part where shan initially posted a picture of the wrong person And made a mistake in good faith and just ignored the later part where he followed through Righted the wrong and acknowledged that the initial assumption of the case was inaccurate It's all a game these assholes are playing. They simply don't give a fuck about what's true And people didn't forget about the story or that this happened jasmine's funeral is on wednesday and from all reports It was packed to the rafters Plus no one who is upset about this when the suspect was white is now okay with it because the suspect is black

The people who organized justice for jasmine the rally in houston They aren't just calling it off now that there isn't a race angle to it What's going on here and what alex is putting forth in his defensive mark is deeply troubling Because later in the video mark starts throwing around some statistics about shootings and how it's all black people do right right alex starts doing some more of that too in defensive mark the statistics version of saying the n word essentially some what Yeah, they're just throwing out statistics with no context that are solely meant to create a fear of black people We've gone over the murder stats and the manipulations people like alex can do to make them Show whatever he wants to fit his worldview. So I think it would be redundant to rehash that now

But just a small example of it in 2017 the fbi's data shows that only 61 of murders were even cleared with an arrest So whenever you talk about these numbers of the people that they do have in custody You kind of have to also ask yourself the question of is it possible that Tarsher targeted policing towards african-americans and black people are responsible for them being overrepresented in the arrests When 39 of murders aren't even cleared in a given year. So what you're saying. I'm just saying there's there's other issues Is that it's entirely possible that they Catch so many black people Because they're only looking for black people

I'm not saying that that's the case but it is a piece of the conversation that is necessary to Have and there's even more that we don't need to get into of course When you want to I'm not making that generalization as all of them, but that is absolutely a play as a factor Yeah, yeah for sure And when you have when you want to have a conversation about these things Those are important pieces to bring into it as opposed to just being like Blacks kill so many more people and all this stuff like come on So that being said, I have some murder statistics

I'd like to share with you that alex and mark dice have no interest in covering As of january 6th of this year, there have been six mass shootings in the united states leaving seven people dead and 23 injured In less than a week. That does not feel good Also, according to fbi's on data I think there's a more meaningful number to look at in terms of comparisons among groups And that's between men and women in terms of committing these acts of violence because there's a large gap Between different races and ethnicities in terms of representation just in sheer bulk numbers in the population Whereas it's fairly close. It's not it's not 51 percent 49 percent or whatever it is

And the fbi isn't cool enough to have breakdowns in terms of different gender identities Of course, you know and all that stuff. Yeah, the numbers that we have are but it's closer than these other Barometers in terms of a one-to-one division a representative sample that can be used to Make conclusions in 2017. There were 1932 women who are the victims of homicide of them 1733 were killed by men. That's 90 percent approximately Conversely of the 4862 men who were the victims of homicide Only 515 were killed by women, which is about 10 percent. This is a statistically very important piece of information That's very relevant

Again, this loops back to the six mass shootings already in 2019 While most of them are still being investigated and information hasn't been made public At least one of them is definitively a domestic violence situation where a man killed his wife and 12 year old child then himself Which is unfortunately a tragic pattern that we see play out over and over again And that in turn loops back to leary woodruff the man arrested for shooting jasmine barns who had prior arrests for assaulting a family member And pled guilty in 2017 to trying to choke a woman. He was dating The more pressing conversation to have about murders in this country are there about errant masculinity and access to guns The rest of it is irrelevant shadow puppetry people like mark dice and alex jones used to justify their deep-seated racism

Slam the book shut. I am I am so grateful I was because we've we've had that Conversation in the past where they're pulling out some race bullshit. And so what winds up happening is we're like, okay Well, fine. If you want to play the race bullshit game great Here's all the bud that goes against your but but the this isn't that no, that's not what this is You have absolutely fucking nailed it and it's it has nothing to do with their bullshit. It's fucking dudes Well, you know, yeah, it's a it's a certain subset of dudes But if you look at it just from a statistical point of view, right have to you have to wrestle with the fact that

Almost all murders of women are done by men and a very slim number of murders of men are done by women So what we need to do is convince women to start killing more men or we need to go, uh, like that, uh, Bennett girl and uh carry an ak 40s get women to carry ak 40s Hey, you know what if only women get guns, I think that would be okay for a while I don't know. It's stupid. My whole point about this is that they're having the wrong conversation intentionally and It's on a very surface level funny to point out that mark dice is complaining about these supposed people only caring about this Because they can demonize white people while he's trying to demonize black people Of course, then when you get behind it a little bit, you see that every piece of it is hypocritical

Every single piece of it is just fucking stupid. They're not reporting the facts They're basing wild assertions Um and misrepresenting statistics and that's the game that info wars plays because they are a white supremacist outlet Yes, and that that is what they're trying to reinforce. Of course now We're done with mark dice May he rest in peace? Oh, also got an update david night. Uh, head heart still dead. Nope. Oh, no, dream. He's getting much better. So Oh, good for him. Yeah, I guess but he has a mandatory suspension from alex

He says he won't let him come back to work for a month because uh, he doesn't want him being overstressed or something like that That's actually the best That's the best hr movie. You know what we gotta give it up to his dad We gotta give it up to his dad on that one. Don't give alex too much credit there But it is cool like it is like uh, at least of all the things You know, we want to talk shit on him about the idea of him be like you can't come back to work He'll yeah, that's pretty that's pretty great solid move. We appreciate that as a way to treat your workers We stand with labor even if that labor is fucking racist as shit and boring

Exactly. So speaking of boring seemingly fairly Not cool with race people Alex then brings in mike adams of a night natural news dot com. Uh-huh. He is a real dick And it seems to me if I had to guess Most of alex jones is Let's be really interested in trump declaring a national emergency thing I think a lot of it relies on articles that mike adams has written

I think he's done the legwork on a lot of this and alex is just thrilled that he doesn't have to do too much work And he can push mike adams ideas to the forefront and i'm taking that mostly uh from this appearance where mike adams says some profoundly dumb shit and uh is Not only in favor of a national emergency being called he outright is calling for an authoritarian coup okay I I'm gonna go. I'm really gonna take a hard. This is a hot take

I think that's a bad idea and we should not do that. I'm with you on that I have reasons for it, but I really don't feel like I should need to Give any reasons for that. I'm with you on that. But what you should know What should I know is that mike adams isn't just coming to this half cocked He's not coming in here and just saying trump is great. Therefore. He should be our uh dictator Oh, does he have a really good reason for it? It turns out. Yeah, he doesn't But he tries to make a just justification and rationalization in this next clip President trump he has to use every power of the executive in order to defeat the deep state or we lose america

You know those people who said well, he shouldn't invoke a national emergency. He shouldn't declare martial law all these all these criticisms I'm not saying he should declare martial law But he should use the powers of the national emergency to defend America against those who are attempting to destroy us into lawless martial law and rebellion That then now we're here. Let's stop denying it. So this is going to be sort of the way that they get around the Complaints that we were making at the beginning of the episode is being hypocritical. Yeah, they're going to now introduce the idea We are already in martial law. We are already in this state Therefore trump needs to declare this national emergency start kicking people's asses in order to undo all of the stuff that's been done already

Right, right. All right. So if I understand, which is great. It's a good line Their argument is We've already been in martial law, baby So he better declare martial law now they're they're sort of reluctant to point out where martial law started Or explain why they haven't been saying that every day since it started It seems like that would be really important to that if they knew that martial law had been going on already for a long time They should have talked about it a lot by now instead They just sort of have been in that state where it's like they're gonna do it. Yeah

Um, so it's weird now to retcon all that and be like, well, no, it's actually always been going on But here's the thing mike tries mike adams tries to pinpoint the beginning of this It's not good It is not a good argument iraq. Uh, also this clip starts out really fucking funny Mike Adams does his research Obama the most draconian executive order ever that under the defense authorization act He funded that executive order with billions to take down trump and info wars and and and tucker carlson and and everybody And it's hiding in plain view the executive order that trump must declare his new emergency to override it explain to people

Crucially alice. Let me repeat it again. It's march 16th 2012 I've linked to it in the article that I just posted a few minutes ago. It's called the national defense resources preparedness order It's on whitehouse.gov. You can read it and importantly alex in that order in the opening paragraph barack obama invokes himself as the commander in chief of the armed forces of the united states of america Indicating that he had planned to use military force to seize control over all resources in the country It's already on the books. It's there. I thought he just was a month later The chairman of the joint chiefs went to the white house and said we're gonna remove you if you don't back off of this And backing al-qaeda. Mike Adams has done his research. This is you're getting the absolute truth right now folks

absolute so obama Wrote down his literal title. Mm-hmm So, you know, he's gonna That's interesting and we'll get to that here in a second But first things first. Mike Adams doesn't do his research He spends most of his time doing things like lying about science on natural news dot com and setting up hog watch dot com To harass david hog and the other survivors of the parkland shooting

Mike Adams is a no nothing piece of shit of the highest order and I can't say that strongly enough This guy is the worst Now as for that executive order, it's number one three six zero three We can dispense with the idea that obama released it in order to declare marshal law by declaring an emergency or whatever the fuck They're trying to sell because it's nonsense. All we need to do to understand what this Executive order is about is to realize that it was just an updating of bill clinton's executive order one two nine One nine from 1994 and even that was really just a refinement of the defense production act of 1950 Which harry truman pushed in order to help assure that the united states had access to necessary materials for defense

Like aluminum and steel as the korean war was getting started But even that was really just an extension of executive order eight two four eight signed in 1939 by f dr This all this is all just stuff that is is fine tuned and refined over the years So we've been in marshal law since the thirties. That's the wrong way to look at it That is exactly what you just said right there dan That is exactly what you just said right there. The fucking executive branch is now seizing the means of production Jordan does his research That's what I would say to that

Acts of government are almost always either building upon something that a Predecessor did or tearing down something that a predecessor did there are very few things that are like the american government Sure, there are very things that a few things that are just outright introductions of wild new ideas This is all obama's executive order was it was a necessary update of bill clinton's executive order And it's really easy to understand why the old executive order needed an update The department of homeland security did not exist in 1994 and fema existed as an independent agency at the time Due to reorganizations Some of the language needed to be fixed in order to reflect the changes in government bureaucracy

That's almost all of the changes that were made by obama's executive order It was just clarifying these things that were very different than they were Uh, what would it have been? Uh 20 years no 18 years earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so of course no Nope 18 years earlier. Yeah, then 2012. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in response 20 years earlier. Nope in response to that In response to the updating of language to include these organizations that were previously not included Uh, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, of course went to obama and said we will overthrow you Unless you do this and then he just didn't and they didn't yeah, that's all nonsense

It's patriot lore. Gotcha. Mike's dumb bullshit about obama evoking that he's the commander-in-chief It's proof that he's going to bring the military into this is complete nonsense First of all, the order actually begins by saying quote by the authority vested in me as the uh, president By the constitution and the laws of the united states of america including the defense production act of 1950 And as commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the united states, it's hereby ordered as follows So mike clearly read the paragraph to see the commander-in-chief part But how did he miss the constitution and the laws part? How do you miss the part where explains that this is in relation to the defense production act of 1950?

Is he really skimming that poorly or is he? Oh, no, it's because obama's black. It's obvious that this is intentional. Oh, yeah Like this isn't he's intentionally misleading people if they understood. Oh, well, this is just really uh an extension of the Oh, let's go read the defense production act of 1950 so we can understand where all this comes from Obama's black I had So in reality this executive order and its predecessors serve an important role in making sure that the various departments within the government Are conscious of what may be required in an emergency and are empowered by the act and these executive orders To enter contracts to make sure that the country has access to those materials that are needed

Beyond that because of the sum of the language in the bill that's about spending It's been used consistently since the 1980s to fund research into emerging technology Technologies and independent research that has led to some very important breakthroughs Oh and just because alex and mike are complete fucking idiots It should be pointed out that on june 13th 2017 trump already evoked the defense production act in order to shift funding towards strengthening The quote space industrial base a year before Announcing space force is that because he declared marshal law in the 30s and then trump Finally seizing upon marshal law decided that we needed a space force

I really don't understand. What is the fuck that they're doing all the stuff that they're talking about like trump has already used this act That is the foundational underpinning of this executive order that really just changes a couple pieces of language Because the goddamn homeland security department didn't exist in 1994 other fuckers So even trump knows more about this than these two fucking clowns. It's nonsense So that is the Executive order that they're talking about as being evidence of obama Like setting all this up and putting us into a state of emergency and yeah in the marshal law that trump needs to declare His emergency in order to undo

I don't know what good that would do, but it sounds good to patriots this national emergency I hereby declare in order to stop The declaration of a national emergency and if nobody's gonna do it. I'm gonna do it my fucking self Because as everybody knows when an executive uses A truly insane amount of power He often does so in order to give the power back to the people dan Historically that's always been the case, right? We've seen a lot of it. Oh so many times so much the executive like with with so many kings I remember them like dissolving parliaments. Do you remember when they dissolve parliaments? It's almost always like voluntary. Yeah

I can't think of a single instance of someone sort of trying to create that Appearance of that being what they're gonna do and then going bad Hmm. I think I can cover with a few examples of that. I think that's what populism is I think I just defined populism So look it's a lot of bullshit, but this is what alex believes and what he's putting forth and bringing it to the table And so then they talk a little bit more about this and you should Make a real good note of this. They don't have more to talk about. They really don't they insinuate that they do But they were specific about that executive order now. Watch how vaguely they talk about everything else

Ladies and gentlemen, obama signed a group of executive orders in 2012 2013 1415 16, which ones? Setting up one two a national emergency and having the pentagon over america Globalist in control of the pentagon in 17 intelligence agencies Those actions are still in place and operating and only under law Action one another executive order or national emergency erase those how that's why you've seen action one belligerence And mike adams who's been on top of this and myself calling For this whole to be exposed. It's here with us executive order national defense resources preparing this march 16 2012 Here's the statement

obama put the united states under marshal law in 2012 that statement is written by mike adams That's not a statement that should carry any other weight than this is the guy i'm talking to he implies that it's some sort of a actual statement from the think tank or some sort of like Researcher it's mike fucking adams. He ran hog watch dot com mike adams is a researcher I know because alex jones said that he's a researcher, which is why alex jones Uh cites him as a researcher little little circular, but I get you yeah makes perfect sense It's a bummer like it's just uh, it's just madness because in that clip that we just played you can even hear alex expressing

A mentality that you really don't like to hear that seems to imply in order to fight back against A dictatorship we must create a dictator. Oh, of course. It is what he that's is the best he's got right now And that to me is thin everybody knows that in order to fight against a dictatorship one That of course is imaginary right you need to create a real dictatorship Because that way you can defeat the imaginary one and we know which dictatorship is better the real one Remember how great dictatorships are as compared to fake dictatorships real dictatorships are really awesome If they're doing the horrible things you want done it seems like a lot of people like that though So there is that so uh in this next clip mike explains that we were put under this martial law

In 2012 but it was done for a specific reason And they didn't think that history was going to go the way it does and then pay close attention To what mike is describing as what he wants to happen because I can't tell you how fucked up it is to hear an adult say this All of these powers that obama invoked and laid out in executive orders were intended to be handed to president Hillary clinton this was the plan and hillary clinton Let's recall had a plan in place and a list of people to arrest which includes you and myself as well And what is wrong with you and 90 percent I would say higher than that of this country have no fucking idea who mike adam

Oh, no, I would say 99.99 snowflakes really need to stop exaggerating their oppression Yeah, we were also supposed to be arrested and shut down when trump won the presidency it threw that entire plan Uh, uh into total chaos, but also it inadvertently handed these powers to president trump Who has been reluctant to use these powers that obama had intended for hillary clinton to use So understand the deep state under obama accidentally gave president trump the power to destroy the deep state This is why they are so terrified. This is what it's all about Trump only needs to invoke these powers that are already on the books He can root out the deep state. He can arrest and indict the traders who are operating inside government

Inside universities that have become terrorist recruitment centers The traders that the mayors the governors who are running these illegal sanctuary cities They need to be investigated. Um, trump has the power to do this And he must invoke this power in order to defeat the deep state and then restore true liberty and national security To our country. That's what we are demanding and I think that's that's the path that trump is following now That is a perfect description of uh a pogrom I mean, what it's so insane that people would uh, especially people who have made a cottage industry out of being like The paranoid guys. Yeah be like what we need is a strong

Executive evoking emergency powers in order to root out ideas. We don't like in universities, right traders in the military, right? It's just this he's describing authoritarianism, right? He's so describing a creation of a fascist state. So that was a great idea though when chairman Mao did it. Uh, it was an awesome idea when What's this fuck from turf Erdogan did it? Uh, that was awesome. We're gonna get to that. No, that was great. Um How many other times has this happened and it's always worked out really well for everybody involved, right? Oh, you know who else did a great job of doing it? Uh, that's stalling cat. Um Uh Hitler your points made is it made? Yeah, would you like me to give 300 more fucking examples to mic fucking the child idiot Adams?

It's nuts to hear something like that. I heard that Especially after all this like apocalyptic nonsense from alex earlier and saying like the time Prevengence is coming like these things being juxtaposed and you know being put forth on this show are really fucking scary Because it's not like it's this isn't kid stuff You know, like this is an adult who has a platform Legitimately being like they're openly encouraging An authoritarian coup at this point. Yeah, and they're expressing that they are going to be wildly disappointed if that doesn't happen Right, they're demanding it and that uh is not a good sign

Up to this point. All I've heard is it's okay If we get the go ahead to kill all of our political enemies and we'll know that because trump will be speaking Like god will be speaking through him when he tells us to of course, which makes it okay according to the bible So so that that is the start And then the finish is We're going to do this in order to set up an authoritarian fascist rule But that'll go away and we'll have a utopia afterwards after we get all the browns out I really don't think that's how it works. It's not but it's not like they're not even being that explicit

But that's what's behind this. Oh, absolutely. I mean it's all a crisis that they're manufacturing about this idea of illegal immigrants coming in Like this is all that's what's behind all of this. That's what's making them justify this stuff Which is another really important piece But before we get into that we need to really take a look into the abyss and see how bad these ideas Mike Adams is espousing on the show really are because in this next clip he says something that's insanely bad It's the appropriate role of the military. It's a constitutional role for the military to defend the borders and also by the way, alex You know posicomitatus

It prevents the military from acting as police on the streets of america But it does not prevent military police from pursuing Enemy combatants and domestic enemies of america who are on american soil Military police can be dispatched to arrest and seek out treasonous traitors You know war criminals enemy combatants who are on us soil that there is no restriction against that Let's just keep all of this in mind because america is under attack So it's under attack man military police operating on us soil and domestic law enforcement would 100 percent be against the posicomitatus Act no two ways about that unless there's a coast guard and it was a maritime crime

There's a small loophole for that what mike is advocating for is literally how dictators show up power We've seen it a hundred times simple example that you brought up earlier after his staged coup in january 2016 turkish president Erdogan called in the military police to round up his perceived enemies within nine months 110,000 people had been detained and approximately 50,000 of them were arrested Well, that totally wasn't a fake coup dan that totally wasn't a fake Manufactured coup that he created that was a real coup and of course it just so happened that hundreds of thousands of people Who were his political enemies got caught up of that 110,000 people 7463 of them were members of the military over 10,000 were police officers 2,575 were prosecutors or judges who Erdogan disagreed with some even reportedly members of the supreme court

2,708 were journalists 179 media outlets were shut down between the staged coup in the end of 2016 The reason this is important is that these people who were the targets of Erdogan's crackdown are precisely the people Alex and mike are saying trump needs to go after the entrenched globalists and the military and police forces The globalist judges and the ninth circuit who won't let you have a flag all the mainstream media figures who are enemies of the american people In a very real sense. I mean this with no exaggeration irony or humor Alex jones and his cohorts have now embraced calling for an outright authoritarian coup under the stewardship of their hero Donald trump

This is a very different and much more severe situation than we saw even a few weeks ago And the massive escalation of this does not make me feel great about what's to come now That being said, I don't think that this necessarily Translates to the real world. I think that there's a very small section of alex jones's audience that will be Like severely negatively affected by this right and just because alex is advocating for this and mike adams is advocating for this It doesn't mean the trump is going to do that. I don't want anyone to get that idea in their head But because we're a show that follows alex jones and and you know, we we track this sort of thing We know that this has been something that he's into for a bit

Yeah, but the way they're overtly talking about it is a very market change It is very scary to me the idea that they feel comfortable enough Because they believe that tonight trump is going to declare this natural national emergency That they can wear it openly that they can say it is a good idea for the military police to round up potential Political enemies and stuff like that That is really fucking scary because that means that if shit ever goes that way They're going to be the first people cheerleading and and and trying to rationalize They're going to be the people who are on on the radio, uh in rwanda. Yeah, like that. That's who they're going to be

It's going to be in disaster. Oh no, they're they're They're they're they're exactly they're exactly saying right now Oh my god now that we know trump's going to do it. I'm so glad it's finally okay for us to say that we need to Uh have a racial cleansing and that includes taking the race traders out too. Look Hey, if you're a white person, but you support those races that we don't like guess what you're a race trader You're one of them cleansing away, baby I mean it is it is a like gentlemen speak freely kind of moment You know like where the the the mask drops a little bit and you see

Oh, this is what you've been meaning for a long time. Yeah, and it it's just um I can't I can't I legitimately can't imagine a scenario where in um like Even if someone had like left politics that I agreed with they were advocating for military police rounding up conservatives Or even the alt right even nazis. Yeah necessarily, you know, like Depends on what those nazis did But you know what I'm saying like even if I heard that there's no way that I would be like Triumphedly cheering for it. Yeah, like if it's the if it's the state Doing it. I can't I can't imagine getting to this place

And what you realize when you see moments like this is they don't need to get to that place That's their place. Yep There there are so many times with so many of the rules and the norms that Existed within congress prior to Mitch mcconnell's dumb fuck face existing God I want a time machine to Um, but so many of these rules are in place because Everybody kind of implicitly got that if we change these rules for us

There will be a pendulum swing back And those rule changes that we change to benefit us can then be used for to our detriment It's a pick your spots kind of there's a there's a democracy in republics. Exactly. That's kind of the the game and with these guys there is something that is uh That is now explicit, which is that When you talk about one side or the other uh, only one side is

Literally using these rule changes in bad faith to harm people It does seem that way and so so they kind of don't care about the pendulum swing Because why would they they know that if the pendulum swings backward They're not going to do to us what we want to do to them Well, and they also kind of understand if you know, you swing a pendulum hard enough It just gets lodged in the wall or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is that kind of idea Even if you use that pendulum metaphor, right you can break a pendulum. Yeah, well fair enough. So you go too hard one direction Uh, you end up with a broken political system that doesn't fix itself

It doesn't swing back the other way you end up in tyranny the exact same thing that alex has been warning about and screaming about Making millions of dollars talking about for years, right? I think that what we're seeing here Is essentially the same thing that is the dichotomy between john waterman The uh, wednesday guy on carrie cassidy's show and on his own blog On carrie cassidy's show. That's alex A year ago. Yeah Not bringing up that he hates the jews just being like certain groups certain groups certain groups

And now uh, when he has on his own blog He talks about how it's the jews and all of them are fucking awful and they're trying to exterminate white people in germany Blah blah blah. Yeah, i'm not saying that the alex is an anti-semite directly in that metaphor But what i'm saying is a year ago. There was this couchedness to it. There was this there was more of uh, like It wasn't this overt. Yeah, this overt, uh thing right now is directly calling for What brings tyranny and he has every reason to know that and he doesn't give a fuck Because he never gave a fuck. It's it's i mean the mask was caring. Yeah, the mask was caring about the consequences And it has fallen. He does not care about any of this stuff and

We could talk about how like You know earlier in the year we had like him saying that rex 84, uh, is cool now It's totally fine. Now the trump gets to do it. Come on. Tossy comma. Tottis doesn't matter send the military to the border all this stuff we could talk about all that stuff, but Most people look at that and they wanted clown on alex for being a hypocrite, right? And i'm not interested in that necessarily and i don't think we have been super interested in that although Maybe pointed out from time to time. It's a lesser issue I think that people miss the point and what it is is those were always performative aspects of what he was doing

and what he was doing and is still doing is defending whiteness defending the status quo of a White centric chauvinist Cisnormative world. Yeah, those are the institution and uh, uh, weirdly christian. Yeah Whatever Vaguely religious so long as it justifies whatever

Yeah, yeah, yeah What he's always done with all of these narratives is prop up and and apologize for white terrorism All that sort of stuff and now he's abandoned the pretense the mask of caring about tyranny Right because the guy who's going to bring in the tyranny that he wants is in favor of all of those things Yeah, he's a fucking chauvinist. He's a racist. He doesn't like trans people and he's a rapist hates gays You know like who knows if he hates gays, but he doesn't want him to have rights Doesn't want him in the military or whatever Especially the people he surrounds himself don't yeah, who cares about like litigating his personal beliefs

It's about the effect that would be had and So he knows that he knows It's a small revelation that we've already made repeatedly that is He is comfortable now because his guy is going to protect the groups he wants protected But it's just crazy to see that it is not just about these little things. It's about everything Yeah, no career is based on a lie We talked about it uh on a previous episode where We were discussing that kind of hypocrisy angle and it really isn't hypocrisy because what it always has been is

I'm afraid they're gonna do what what we do To them are going to do we hope to do I I'm afraid they're gonna do that to us That's why I'm afraid of tyranny not because tyranny is bad No, but because we're gonna get our literal comeuppance The right kind of tyranny is great is is bad and the or it's good and the wrong kind is bad Exactly. Yeah, it's uh, it's a trite thing But it's I think it's worth it that we spent this little period here having that discussion Because I think it's a one way that people who aren't as uh in touch with and understanding what alex does

Misunderstand him and they make the wrong attack on him in many ways, you know Like this idea of like oh, look at this. You're a hypocrite because now you believe this when you said that It's a much more salient attack in a much more salient way to look at things to say Oh, what this does is it reveals that you never cared about that But what you did care about and what was motivating your rhetoric then is the same thing that's motivating it now I think it's a more holistic more reasonable Way to look at things and I think

I don't know. I don't I don't know if it helps anything But it's the it's reality and it's it's so important Over and over over again to make this point is that alex is the weakest link in this right wing propaganda chain So many people in this right wing propaganda world so many people in fucking congress Pretty much support. Milo was a weaker link Oh, well fair enough got it got excessed and fair enough But but found out his uh, nazi-ness pretty easily right but in terms of saying the quiet part loud So many people in the right wing propaganda so many people on fox news. Well bad would say

Not in the same words, but in a far like in a far better couched language Essentially the same thing like tucker carlson wouldn't let mike adams come on and say the military police has the Constitutional role to hunt down trump's potential enemies right stuff like that It's it is directly antithetical to So many of the very ideas of freedom and it's the sort of thing that has always led down the path towards centralized control oppression Uh and all that shit. Yeah, and it tucker carlson wouldn't have mike adams on to say that you wouldn't have him on period period

of course not but If trump did do that Tucker carlson would defend it probably and say things like well Constitutionally, they're not allowed to do this But they are allowed to do this you do something weak But I don't think it would be as weak as this uh, obama's executive order put us under martial law So trump is just getting them back. Yeah, that's too late. That's that's real weak That's real bad, especially when you can go read that executive order

You can understand the language in it. You can understand the history of it Like all that stuff is so easy to track down. It's not it's not even alex's normal stuff Where it's like you got to go read john p. Holdren's entire eco science textbook. It's so easy. Yeah Anyway, look, we've gone down a little bit of a road. I think it's important and i'm not mad about that But the important thing to remember is that alex is certain that he knows what's happening tonight on june, uh, june january I A mike Seven o'clock central for coverage of trump's epic declaration of emergency as he says we're in an emergency

I'm made to declare an emergency Oh, he's gonna declare Mike, thank you. We'll be right back stay with us. So you keep hearing this. Oh, he's gonna do it You know, like we know we know he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it's constant throughout the episode So earlier you were sort of bucking at mike adams talking about like who is the america you're talking about Yeah, this next clip white You know, he just kind of makes it a little more meh We reach real america and real america supports trump supports a declaration of a national emergency

If that's what it takes whatever it takes to build this world. That's what the new president of brazil just did Of course, he's got to declare an emergency to remove these people Exactly, I think Trump should declare a war on the globalist. Oh, the major media is the enemy They're trying to get him killed. They're trying to kill us. I mean, it's the truth. These people are waging war on us We didn't start it. That's the thing. I mean, we're they are so scared. We're gonna fight back We we are in a war. It's time to declare it It's time to rise up and identify the enemies within who are waging this war to Disassemble and obliterate america and this war on america has been going on since 2008 and let's be a trillion percent clear

They started it. They won't back down their fair game period They drew first blood period period period period period our nation So there is nothing in there that makes me feel better about alex saying the time Prevengence isn't now because in this clip a mere hour after that He's saying the globalists have drawn first blood their fair game. Yeah, which I think you could interpret as in being like Let's get now. It's time. It does kind of feel that way. It's really fucked up and then mike adams Uh alex talked over him a little bit. He's like this country's been in crisis since 2008. Why is that? I thought the I thought the executive order was in 2012. You dumb fuck. Is it just because of obama? Yeah, he was black

Dan, I think I don't know if you know did you notice that it might be a subtle piece of that could be part of it subtle Also, if you want to pull this bullshit of like, oh, we're in a war now and they've drawn first blood because they're oppressing us dude Your uh, I don't frame. I don't know. I don't know what you want to I don't know what you want to call it if not side I let's call it white christian male Colonialists white identity people. They have been fighting a war in this country since it started And it has been it has been those more about women having property. It's been against women. It's been against people of color

It's been against every possible minority that isn't white. It's been against fucking catholics for god's sakes You guys have always been fighting this war and the only fight back that anybody has ever had is been like Guess what we're making your lives better too. You dumb fucks There's been a shifting of alliances and there's been people who have not been on like it's not like a consistent one Group throughout the entire time. No, but you're right. I mean, it's not a party. I'm not saying it's a party It's a white identity the X the there's been like More or less a history of exclusion and inclusion

It's kind of been that struggle throughout the entire time because you you can kind of boil stuff down I don't know that sounds like it's minimizing like real serious like chattel slavery and stuff like that But to an extent that was driven by exclusion like there's always been that and that heading allows you to include Catholics and the irish and stuff like that because that was also an attempt to exclude From the group that's allowed to have access to power Exactly that sort of thing power access influence money capital all that sort of stuff And so and it even allows you to talk about like workers and yeah So inclusion versus exclusion has always been sort of the defining lines of what thisism is

And alex is squarely on the side of exclusion And I don't know I don't understand how anybody looking at the path through history Can can honestly think that that's a good gamble like I don't understand why people think that that would work out well It always is wrong exclusion is always wrong Even though it sometimes feels right. I mean we go back to that Ebola episode that we did It feels right to quarantine something, but it's always going to be the wrong thing to do It it's just a a sort of knee jerk reaction That if you've ever studied anything you should know is

It's the wrong thing. It'll be looked poorly upon and alex It I mean We're fucking apes that have destroyed the one place that allowed us to exist Yeah So of course, we're going to continue to destroy it because we have these fucking apes continuing to do it. Yeah, they're not good apes Nope, but alex like I said is certain that trump is going to declare an emergency. Of course Mike Adams. God bless you. Great job. You're joining tonight seven o'clock central 8 p.m. Eastern 4 The coverage of trump declaring a national emergency

I don't know how all this is gonna end, but are the globalists want to fight? They better believe they've got one Yes Oh, man, he's he's so excited though. Yeah, but he's so excited because he thinks he's on the verge of this Authoritarian regime. He's in favor of being implemented. It's crazy to me. Like it's very obvious Like what mental state he's in that's why the apocalyptic piece is in here That's why that that's why that explains all of this. Yeah So now it's funny that he takes the side tour for the last Hour of his show and talks to this guy who runs a site called blackpilled.com

Um Apparently this guy's got some complaints about that movie bird box I don't know if uh, have you seen it? I haven't seen it. I don't see movies all that much. Yeah, I saw it It's not good. Well, here's his review and we'll see if you uh, agree with him The left has ruined a particular form of fiction that I I used to be really fond of Did the left fiction where the theme the genre Is societal collapse not just because I think it's

relevant today But also because I think it's just interesting to imagine how Different people from different walks of life would react to the existing social structure Collapsing suddenly So just real quick. I don't mean to be dismissive of this complaint although I am I think also that genre kind of fucked itself out I think that's why you see remakes of all of the like day of the dawn of the dead movies, right? Like you just see all these remakes of the people who explored those ideas

Really well, I know that there are probably examples of newer movies that uh, like take on an interesting twist on stuff Yeah, yeah, but you also have like kevin smith making that red state movie, right? That wasn't that red state wasn't terrible. Like yeah, you also have compared to his compared to post red state But I also Who who does he think started that genre? Like who does he think conservatives? He really do you really think the conservatives? Do you think do you think the the post apocalyptic nuclear bomb movies of the 1950s were started by conservatives? Do you think fucking god zilla was started by conservatives?

How about beneath the planet of the ape stand the greatest the world has fucked up movie there's ever been This is a minor point. I just I would I would bring my Rebuttal to him be like I don't think there's much more interesting territory to cover. I think we've done the Society falling apart are people gonna get along are they gonna fight? That's why survivor you can only watch like three or four seasons of it It's kind of like I'm amazed you can watch that many seasons of it Well, I have more tolerance for people on the beach and that theme song than you maybe and I also kind of enjoyed jeff probst A certain charm to him. Okay. I don't know if I've ever told you this But my buddy nicky gifts had the best idea in the world for like getting on survivor

Kidnapped jeff probst make him the author authoritarian dictator. That'd be a good plan. Yeah Now his plan was uh, we would always sit around and you'd be like what I want to do is I want to get on survivor We go to tribal council, right? Yeah, and what we do is we all vote for jeff probst See what happens Because the votes are all in there So he's pulling out the first vote. He's like jeff probst. All right guys. All right. That's pretty funny. Okay Jeff bro. Come on guys. Hey. Hey, we're still doing a show. Can we get can we get the producer in here? Would they redo it? Who knows? Oh, of course they would but it's a fun idea

Show they might show it for like five seconds though. My point is that nicky gift is a funny guy and uh, this criticism so far Is soft and it's bullshit bird box A popular tv show that they kind of started out like this Was the walking dead, but it's now just become a soap opera where every character is now engaged in either an interracial or lbgtq What's your problem there? The show is no longer anything about survival Or how society would deal with a zombie invasion Just like everything else coming out of hollywood pretty much exactly how left this it's exactly and uh

And that's why I was skeptical when someone told me that I would like this new movie by netflix You know the the company that's been hard at work Normalizing pedophilia This new movie by netflix called bird box So real quick two things first is that he's saying that this is liberal Propaganda cleftrap and his two examples are people who identify as lgbt and interracial relationships Yes, which is like whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa those are those are things you think are like liberal Intrusions into a genre. That's it. Wow. What what what what's what's next? What's next dan? Look?

I love a nice, you know, I look uh, I don't even I can't come up with a genre I like science fiction, but what I don't need to see is miscegenation. Hell. No What what hold on? Hold on. Are you telling me? Are you telling me that these liberals convinced captain kirk to kiss a black woman on television? It's such propaganda liberal intrusion That's crazy to me. That's fucking if you want if you want to make a point I'd encourage you not to make that one because it makes you sound like you don't want races dating It really sounds like it's it look

I like the old movies where you weren't going to see any kind of interracial touching or or or talking unless it's violent And and there were only there were only white men and white women kissing both of them within their perfect gender roles And I don't understand the guy'll hit her. I don't understand. Oh, he will hit her like have you seen the quiet man? And and I just don't understand why these liberals have to turn this culture into something that has more ideas and and more flavor and more Everything I just want white people Full stop. Mm-hmm. So from that criticism I gathered like just from a genre perspective I don't think this is a great review and then second from a oh boy

You're apparently against interracial relationships and lgbt people being represented cool, man from from a genre perspective his take on sci-fi is uh No gays so, um, he'll he goes on to talk about how like all the bad guys are white in it and that is like a Clear anti-white message and stuff like that. Yeah, of course. I just did the jack-off motion. Yep. Whatever. Yeah, go fuck yourself So I went to this guy's website. His name is devon stack. Uh, it's blackpilled.com not blackpilled.com That site is still available. You go buy that if you want. Don't know why he didn't but he went to blackpilled dot com

Yeah, it took me a while to find the page But when I did I found his homepage, uh, and if you look at it, there's problems. This guy doesn't seem cool He has articles and videos he's made with titles like quote no white guilt for blackface Or quote why they want to replace you which literally argues that people in countries with more oppressive governments like argentina Have lower IQs and thus the powers that be you're trying to make everyone closer to that in order to install a more oppressive government Beyond that You spent a bunch of time covering how pizza gate is totally real and of course the seth rich conspiracy He was all into that naturally

He's a good fit for alex as a fellow nut Unless you want to bring up one of the posts from about a year ago that he made that's particularly funny Which is just titled quote bill cooper warned about deep state 20 years ago Did alex see that before he had him on his I hope so he didn't because he loves this guy because he's uh, Encouraging racial othering and creating white oppression narratives throughout his work. That's what he's doing. That's the entire purpose of this Anyway, I don't have much respect for this guy. I think he kind of sucks But his interview is actually really boring But

Sandra bullock is in bird box I didn't know that because I haven't seen it Do you know, uh Something about Sandra bull. I don't know anything about her. Uh, let's tell you this. What's that? She's a nazi. Come on So alex takes this for all of our new new listeners. That's a running joke that we uh, we that we let go for a while. Yeah Um, and we delivered poorly because it hasn't it's been so long It's been so long, but I only bring it up because alex takes this opportunity to really just uh, just

Take us some swings at Sandra bullock And I have to add anything Sandra bullock involved in is a globalist operation I have total inside knowledge of all of it. I'm not a liberty to tell you but she is a monstrous pig Total pr. Well stabbing the back is a psychopathic monster How do you know that that Sandra bullock is a soulless pig period Just like her film Pig box

He knows that nice came out with the neo nazi jesse james who she divorced Oh, that's right And then also it probably has something to do with the fact that she like adopted minority children Like I don't know it it seems like redundant and kind of overly simplistic to assume that's part of it But it seems like it might be and I know that he's friends with jesse james and jesse james is 100 percent At least pretty cool with nazis And alex the two of them are friends. This is all just information that jesse james has told him He's like if you know enough about alex, you know that what he's reporting on is in fact

It's like hey the guy that she divorced was talking a lot of shit to me and I know secret shit I know secret stuff from this jilted lover Although that's not good if that if that isn't sourced That kind of suggests that jesse james said that the only reason she divorced him because it's bad pr to be with a nazi It does suggest that Which You know what and stick around after he was cheating with a nazi stripper. Yeah fair. Look that is bad pr I don't want to get into it. I don't really care

It just seems like what alex is doing there is like trying to pretend He has like real deep inside knowledge and it's just it's kind of like tmz Without any information. It's the suggestion of information that he's it's just gossip. He's offering Whatever. Oh a few a few episodes when we a few episodes back a few modern day episodes back I literally said this just turned into a gossip talk show Now it's a apocalyptic uh Authority and white nationalist authoritarian apocalyptic gossip show

Yeah, it's a it's a weird thing for an episode to have so much within it the multitudes You know, you have all this really scary stuff then this clear Uh, uh, I don't know what even want to call him a big itty movie reviewer. Yeah. Yeah Like richard roper, but hates Yeah, it is kind of like a it is kind of like a meg and kelly took it I can't imagine if kebert's review of a movie was too many too many interracial Don't like sea and race mixing What the fuck man this liberal

nonsense Yeah, yikes, so this is brings us to the end of the episode on the eighth Then alex jones takes a powder. He lets oan shroyer take over on the war room Gets his bearings about him and comes back with a live report for the live coverage of trump Obviously Declaring a state of emergency on broadcast tv. He's everybody knows that that's what he's gonna do. He's made that clear Repeatedly throughout the show. It's what's gonna happen. So now uh the beginning of this uh episode or this uh live thing was Very boring. Yeah, very boring. Yeah, but about uh, maybe

Let's call it 10 minutes in or so alex frames. What's going to happen this evening Coming up in t-minus 50 minutes. We're gonna have the president his first oval office address Now yesterday I said they said oh, there's a special address tomorrow. We don't know if it'll be the oval office or not He'll be in the oval office The prediction one came true and that means that's time of war national crisis. You name it and trump has already correctly said We are in a national crisis We are in a national crisis

Do we declare it a crisis? So I've said is it a bargaining chip? Is that what this is? Is this a bargaining chip? So the democrats stop holding it up and creating the crisis of the shutdown government to show them I've got the power anyways to build the wall if you don't do it Well, if he announces some deal tonight by Pelosi and schumer, they'll probably double back on it But that could be the only way he doesn't declare an emergency But he needs to clear the emergency because again, I want to be clear obama Signed not just executive order in 2012, but at least a dozen more which one executive orders name after that one two

That gave marshal law Dictatorial power To whatever agency and group which one working group he put in under the executive order name them groups one two three four five So he's made it clear the only way trump isn't Saying it's a national emergency is he comes out and announces a deal that exactly because he threw his dick on the table And said i'm going to do that and then yeah, pelosi and schumer cowered in fear Yeah, so and you know that they would if he did announce that they were probably back out because you know They have a history of backing out of deals unlike the very person who had a deal in place to continue funding the government

And then because of dick wads like alex jones and sean hannity then went back on that fucking deal You know, you can't trust pelosi and schumer. There's also that great little clip Although you can't trust pelosi and schumer their giant piles of shit too There's also that great clip you couldn't find of trump talking to them being like i'm going to shut down the government I won't blame you Yeah, no, no, he literally said it is going to be my fault. I'm going to do this. I will accept the blame Yeah, but it's not his fault. No They're the ones who are dragging their feet and that's what alex is bringing into the table and

I just need to stress because we know after the fact that trump didn't declare a national emergency He just spouted a bunch of racist bullshit But how do you know that he I didn't watch it because because fuck off. I'm not watching that No chance it was all just a manipulation of the the reality of the situation of the border Trying to make it seem so awful. He was listing people who have been killed by immigrants Yeah, and stuff like that. It was just a white nationalist display. Yeah, frankly. I don't mean that flippantly It was absolutely just a like we need to be afraid of these people flooding into our country Of course and it is a crisis of the heart the crisis of the soul

He was appealing on like a pathetically moral level like trying to use a moral argument In terms of like we need to do this. He appealed to the opiate crisis and it's like dude. Fuck off This would that wall wouldn't help with that at all. Oh, no, no, it would it wouldn't help It sounds like it sounds like uh, I know who wrote that speech, uh, Stephen the fucking white nationalist racist some guy with a weird hairline. Yeah. Yeah, some guy who draws in his hair So, uh, and not carlos boozer surprisingly enough. Yeah. Yeah, it does feel that way man. That's an old reference So, um alex gets to this and this next clip I legitimately feel Is so disqualifying alex has no idea what he's talking about and he demonstrates it fully in this next clip

No one has ever used a national emergency except ronald reagan We did a limited one to use national emergency to order the air traffic controllers To not let planes crash and fall the sky and he said I order you back to work under emergency order He did that national emergency. It was all 50 states air traffic controllers said increase our pay or we're gone He said no you get back to work. I'll have your ass arrested Now if congress the people didn't agree with that he would get impeached. He didn't his approval writing went up my wife Or more or more So, uh, here's the deal alex is 100% wrong about this story and it really illustrates a deep lack of understanding on his part on the topics

He's covering in august 1981 the professional air traffic controllers organization found themselves on strike demanding across the board pay raises And more lenience in the hours of their work weeks given the 24 7 nature of their job 13 000 controllers walked out of negotiations on august 3rd when it became clear that the faa wasn't going to give them what they Were looking for and the strike continued Reagan deemed the strike to be illegal and threatened to fire anyone who didn't go back to work within 48 hours 11 000 controllers didn't cave and reagan stood to his word and fired them even going so far as to put lifetime bans on them being Rehired unfortunately the scabs who didn't stand with the union and their fellow workers Were enough to maintain approximately 80 of commercial towers and the freight industry ran at full levels

And just like that a dickhead president dealt a crippling blow to labor rights in the country On full display in front of the national media everyone saw exactly what would happen to organize labor who went against the power of the government They would be threatened and those who didn't fall in line would be fired find and potentially banned for life from their profession Reagan's argument was that federal employees don't have the right to strike So if they did he should just fire them based on the taft-heartly act of 1947 This hadn't been done previously and most people believed that if circumstances ever came up a modern president wouldn't be so shitty As to actually summarily fire federal employees for demanding better working conditions But those people had never met reagan

Many consider the event to be one of the most important in the history of union busting And a moment that had ripple effects through tons of industries and the lives of just those fired workers alone But at no point did reagan declare a national emergency alex is trying to conflate the idea of the Of a strike and this government shutdown and this national emergency narrative that's going on which all of them are in no way related But in doing so what he's saying is that no other president has declared a state of emergency except reagan Which is absolutely not true That is the three people voted on the federal reserve of our emergency declaring arguments

Reagan didn't declare a national emergency and other people fucking did nobody Reagan did declare national emergency. It's just not that one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're currently 28 national emergencies in effect Dating back to 1979 the oldest one from the carter administration Nearly all of them 25 out of the 28 have to do with putting freezes on the property of people involved in various regimes We've not liked or people who are working to disrupt peace processes in countries We did like like Belarus in 2006 Zimbabwe in 2003 or the western Balkans in 2001 The rest are exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to see there's one from 1994 about the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction There's one from night from 9 11 about terrorism

You can make whatever argument you want about these national emergencies for or against them I'm ready to talk about that. I'm willing to hear both sides of it Yeah, some of them are probably very unnecessary. Some of them may be hard. There might be a good Hey, I'm not against the national emergency about the idea of the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction I also think we should be subject to it. But you know, there's new wants to the conversation you can have but You can't make a coherent argument that they're secret or that somehow by declaring them any president has gained the ability to Declare martial law and crown themselves king

I'm not saying this to be a dick That is literally what alex jones and larry nickles were arguing in the run up to the 2016 election That obama was going to declare a state of emergency and the fema provisional government would kick in and then he'd become king And just so no one thinks i'm making that up. Here's them saying it Why is it when obama was elected? We were told oh, thank god race is finally over and he's done everything in his power and then some to make race Hotter issue now than the day the man came in

And if you don't believe he is working hard to get these riots activated and when the the riots get activated alex Here's the part people don't understand when these black mobs start running wild and shooting wildly into the neighborhood You know what people are doing this country They'll call up and say please send the government and stop it protect us We will call for the federal government to come in and protect us. We will call for the civil emergency We will we'll be the ones asking for it because you know what we'll be scared Ha ha here's them talking about it again We know bad stuff's coming. What do you see happening?

Well, it's exactly what you and i had talked about years ago. Thankfully. Thanks to you and other programs We stopped it You know bill was using if you'll recall alex gessie jackson remember gessie jackson was to spoke supposed to start riots in five major cities And then bill clinton would of course have to declare martial law and once they get the provisional government rule in then they get to be king forever We stopped it by making it public well now We've got problems The folks all of this that's going on is about power

power And the clinton's absorbed power Like we take in sunshine like goku now The thing that's going on today You have to be so careful so very careful because at any time You know They're gonna start tit for tat where you kill some black guys somebody kill some black guys

Black guys kill some more black guys And then you end up in this total chaos and when that happens all bets are off and whoever is sitting folks whoever is In power when this thing collapses. They become king or queen. I forgot to mention that larry nickles is also a huge racist Yeah, yeah, there's that so look dude. This is nonsensical This has been their editorial position forever the idea that a president introduces a national emergency

Whether it's in this conception back then of like these manufactured race riots that they're they're worried about Whatever the situation is it's created in order for them to create this national emergency Which means that they can then become king like that is that is deep-seated alex jones. Shit. Yep. It's nuts It is nuts. I hate being gaslit It's not so hard It's nuts that he has no idea that there are all of these national emergencies that have been in place forever Or he seems not to he literally said that reagan's the only president to use one. Yep. That's crazy Look, here's the thing

We talked about this already the idea that this is not an invalidation of alex jones' rhetoric This is a confirmation of what it's always been about. This is the logical end point of this rhetoric, right? You just see a glimpse through the the the curtain or whatever and you see the wizard of oz is a racist. Yeah More or less the idea of anything else was just window dressing. Yeah, it really was. Yep. So please understand this This episode that we're listening to right now Is a direct mirror of the night alex stayed up all night to watch wiki leeks anniversary live stream That he thought was going to be the night of hillary's downfall On that evening alex thought that his magical

deos ex machina was going to arrive and whisk him away to a post globalist world and in that blissful state He said things that indicated that he and roger both had advanced knowledge of what was in those leaked emails Unlike medea his chariot did not arrive that night In exactly the same way you can easily sense alex is expecting this deos ex machina moment from trump on january 8th He thinks this press conference is going to happen and after that trump is going to be In charge of the u.s in a state of emergency and then it's genocide time And in the same way that he let too much slip that night when we were he was watching assange Him and roger stone let too much slip while they're preparing for trump's speech on january 8th

roger stone, what do you predict tonight here in about 15 minutes? Well, first of all, I think the president's going to stand tall. I do think he is going to exercise his executive power I do think he's going to appropriately declare an emergency This is going to make the deep state shift into high gear There will be mass hysteria tonight because the president accurately recognizes that this flood of illegals Is bringing crime is bringing drugs is bringing disease And the democrats really I think oh and hit it right on the head They favor a remix of the electorate. They flavor

Flooding the american electorate with illegals in order to change the voting quotient I see the president going for broke tonight. It's his signature issue. It is the issue that elected him Let's face it. It is it was the single most important issue in his upset election the most improbable election in american history And I think he understands this is the single most important night of his presidency Roger, that's what my gut tells me and my gut's never wrong So what in the same way that mike adams earlier just really defined authoritarianism and what dictators do to shore up power Roger stone just directly described white nationalism

The idea of these outsiders coming in bring crime and disease The same way that don trump jr. With his tweet talking about the zoo walls keep you safe from the animals stuff like that It's these dehumanizing ideas all they bring is this horrible disease when the statistics don't match that at all no Uh, like reputable science backs that up. No Nothing nothing. This is all the editorial position of info wars, which is of white nationalism Him describing the shifting of the electorate all that sort of thing the voting quotient All that stuff is all the fear of the loss of white power And that is what's important. They believe

That trump is going to declare the state of emergency That will create the thing that they imagine in their head and it's like bond villains to a certain extent Yep, it's a speak freely moment and roger stone Directly describes white nationalism white supremacy Um, he's a little slicker than to just say it the same way that mike adams did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's still like He's even slicker than saying i don't like miscegenation in movies, right? He's slicker than blackpilled guy But he he's still that's a little that's a little blunt. Yep a little blunt the idea of we're going to protect the electorate That sort of thing but not too far off from fox news in general

But they think that this moment is coming and we know that it's not And the interesting thing that I take away from that is that they don't know shit You know what i'm saying? Yeah, like it's interesting that they're so ramped up None of them have any inside information They are all caught way off guard by the idea that trump is just going to be a dick He's just going to do a speech being a dick. He's not going to change anything They think he is and that means that alex jones knows nothing That means roger stone doesn't have any inside information

Everything is posturing, but it's posturing trying to reinforce the possibility and the hope for uh, White nationalist authoritarian state. Yeah, she is not great We're living in a time where old white people are trying to I mean in I guess in the metaphor of their conception of what they think they're doing They're trying to take their ball and go home like everybody's playing Everybody's having a good time and they think they're doing it on behalf of their kids who don't care Yeah, a lot of them probably don't want them to do that. No, absolutely not. Yeah

They sort of use the later generations as a prop in their their argument in their argument, of course Will lead to the deaths of their children Like if you continue with this authoritarian white nationalist fascist state It's only going to accelerate our impending deaths by climate change. Like everything they're doing Everything they're doing is like It's going to be awesome to live in an authoritarian dictatorship because I'll be dead in 20 years And only my children will have to deal with the real fallout of that. No, that's about carbon taxes. Yeah, you're right. So, um Roger goes on he wants to talk about how russia is a bunch of nonsense, which is really fun like the russia investigation

It's fun because also that day paul manafort's lawyers They posted that document that was poorly redacted. They're so bad And because of the poor redacted redaction people were able to find out what was under those black bars And it turns out that he had given internal polling data to russian spies Allegedly No, he admitted to it. I know

Which is a crime. So like there's that stuff and it's like, hey, roger for years You guys ran a business together and he took over for you when you left the campaign It's not good. It doesn't look great. So Roger really wants to muddy the waters about the idea of this trump tower meeting that uh, that lawyer vessel in its sky ahead With manafort don jr. Uh, that other russian spy Vessel in its sky, uh, no, she was the lawyer. Oh, uh, the she was also, uh, apparently a spy. Yeah, yeah, of course She was a spy. So roger wants to talk about that and to say like she had connections with fusion gps Right and what have you? Oh, of course. Um, and that's all good and well

That's just a normal info wars deflection But then alex jones makes it fucking weird by bringing some personal stuff into it And then showing that he doesn't actually understand what they're talking about This indictment today of the woman russian lawyer is a precursor. You can see the setup Obviously, no one raises the question of why she was meeting with Fusion gps before and after the trump tower meeting They're laying the groundwork to try to say that the trump tower meeting was somehow treasonous or illegal and that donald trump jr. Uh, has legal liability. I don't see it. Let's be clear

You advised me to go public. I haven't yet. I have told the fbi. I have told others Fusion gps is actually a central intelligence agency fine Interfacing with the russians to trick russians into engaging in espionage to get defense department funding and i'm a foreign military I'm for our government, but not the traders within them. They have officially tried to set me up really via These groups are as opposed to privately said and they know that and they're crapping bricks right now So so the fact they're doing this they use this Fake just like they're trying to open through a russia and they spend billions of years with sorrows

They're using russian networks. They've gotten the us that really work for the left to try to set patriots up To just talk to them or take money from them to then claim this whole fake russia thing is real Well, the truth is this the clinton's and others that sold us out Uh, to russia. So the fact that this poor russian woman who quite frankly is an idiotic tart She was running around trying to get the on our way to hire the republicans to hire They wouldn't do it. She sent emails the russians saying hey, i'm having sex with all these republicans Well, you hire me and the russians obviously didn't talk to her thinking she was an agent So this is all they've got

I mean the russian is quite shameful the russian intelligence network quite frankly if all they've got's a woman that didn't even work For the fsb my friend. So that's I mean there's a little bit of chauvinism misogyny in there But alex doesn't realize that roger is talking about vessel nitskaya He alex starts yelling about maria butina. Yeah, so these are two different people in very different situations alex doesn't have a grasp on the facts which shouldn't surprise us No, but also no one's trying to set you up Although it would be interesting if he tried to repurpose that rt interview where he got talked to by russian intelligence Yeah as an attempt to set him up or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now that'd be fun. That would be interesting

I don't think he's doing that. I like his Like this is a this is a good russian Like not to not to be like that part of that that russophobic Kind of russian But this is something that the russian intelligence agencies often do which is say We don't even have the capabilities of doing that people are trying to say that we're doing that We couldn't even we couldn't do that if we wanted to and alex does that all the time We talked about how low their gdp is

Yeah, yeah, that's sort of dismissal of like we don't have the potential right right, which is what? You know low people into a false sense of security. It's a strategy. It's very it's a very powerful strategy But again, it doesn't prove anything. No, no, no, absolutely not alex is fucking stupid Can't handle a simple deflective conversation about this lawyer who had just been indicted Because he wants to he thinks he's talking about the other one He needed to deflect from not knowing anything about the deflection that he's ostensibly supposed to be Meanwhile lying about gps setting him up fusion gps. Yeah, we'll see what happens with that so then trump gives his speech and it's

It's just a bunch of nonsense. It's complete nonsense And so immediately afterwards alex realizes That he was wrong and he starts trying to rationalize They threatened a bunch of stuff behind the scenes economic implosion you name it if he did this And uh, I know how trump works. I kind of predicted this before the show I kind of figured he was going to do it things changed and he says, okay I'll see if they do the right thing give them the chance if they won't he'll do the executive order But the border the existential threat to sovereignty that's real

But it's the excuse for the emergency under law Because the media will spin it to get rid of all the globalist executive orders and obama crap No, so I'm not going to give trump a total pass give in 30 days from now This hasn't worked out or he hasn't reversed the executive orders I'm going to think that they have a compromise trump He does this all the time these like fake, uh, announcements of uh, I'll give him this time Yeah, whatever knowing full well that his listeners will not remember 30 days prior to whenever the date is Or he'll just conveniently forget to cover the usmca getting ratified

That's weird forget that that was a line in the sand for him. Oh that's stuff. Yeah, absolutely It's uh, it's bullshit, but that's a slick rationalization saying like trump was uh, One that uh, they crashed the economy if he did it. Yeah that sort of thing get the fuck out of here with that shit It's just so lame. He spent the entire day saying I know this is gonna happen It's going to happen. We're gonna be covering it when it happens Like letting their lust for authoritarianism show in preparation for it happening and then They said they're gonna, you know, I had a sense it was gonna happen But uh, you know what things happen and uh, they got trump got threatened to be

So sad. Yeah sad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in this next clip alex admits he was wrong But also doesn't really admit he's wrong I believe he said just a few moments ago that his gut says that Trump is going to declare a national emergency and his gut is never wrong I think yeah earlier in the episode he did say that And we predicted this was all coming. We've not been discredited. I don't spend things if I'm wrong about something every once in a while I'll say it always I want to be wrong. Believe me. I wish I wasn't right This is what needs to be done. We're not fetishizing

Civil emergency. We're not fetishizing the power of executive. That's literally what you're doing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa That's all you're doing look look he didn't declare a national emergency and of course we never said we wanted him to and like We're not saying that we wanted a authoritarian government Especially now that he is not instituted one and that kind of suggests that we're still Not gonna be okay if we keep out now asking for an authoritarian coup We can only ask for an authoritarian coup after it's already happened. So we're gonna or we assume it's already yeah We're gonna we're gonna pull back and we're gonna say, you know what actually no, we don't think the executive power We're glad for a compromise mealy mouthed about it

I He also is drunker. He's not drunk in the same way that we've seen him so many times But there's a bit of it. Yeah, this is the only clip I think that really demonstrates it where oan shroyer has been there this whole time Oh, he has yeah, how many words has he gotten to say not too many Alex keeps trying to prompt him to say things and then Alex just keeps talking But oan comes in and he starts trying to make the point that now is the time that we need to make our support of trump Really public he's trying to make that point. Alex doesn't understand what he's saying and then starts bragging

We need to be able to go out in public and wear our colors with pride Because there's a big con right now There's a big sigh up on the american people that trump supporters are in the minority trump supporters don't exist We're all you know toothless. Oh, no, they exist the other thing the only way you are in the minority narrative is to physically counter it Oh, I worked out this morning and my trainer showed up in a trump shirt wearing shirts He never does that and then I went to a coffee shop on my way here And there were two people wearing trump shirts I think people get now now is the time to say no to the bullies

Alex, I can't even go to the gym anymore without uh, you know high school and college students recognizing me and just saying how much they love Info wars, so it's weird. I think that the propaganda Anti I'm not bragging my my my my oldest daughter. I've got three daughters and a son. I got four children Daughters, you know 14 down to 20 months my daughter Like says will you come pick me up at this house? So I go to some house party with the parents at a birthday party. They'll be like 20 girls there and their parents and They're all listeners and they all want pictures with me

And then she had three girls over saturday And they were I was like, yeah, I've been I got home late. I'm gonna go watch tv show my wife go to bed They're like, no dad Come take photos and shoot videos for their parents. They're such a fan. I'm not bragging. Oh, I'm famous. The point is yes People are away So like that was oh and trying to introduce this idea of like we need to counter the idea that no one likes trump by wearing trump shirts around and then he he did sort of introduce the idea of popularity by talking about

I go to the gym and people know me and that sort of thing But alex couldn't handle that and had to one up him with this weird story about 14 year old girls Taking pictures. Oh, oh, oh people know you own Troyer. Guess what everybody knows me. It is that way It is one upping. It's not like a it's not helping the conversation at all. It's it's focusing on himself Which is also what he does all the time Yeah, it's very much that drunk conversation that you've had with somebody in a bar before I've been on the wrong side of that conversation a hundred times where it's like they say something and you're like, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. That's just like this completely unrelated thing

That's gonna exactly change the topic 1 million percent from whatever the fuck it was you were talking about I wasn't listening to you. I think it was what you were talking about. Yeah but Yeah, so that's all fun there's one more clip from the uh the night of of uh, january 8th, uh, and it's alex kind of freaking out because You know the it didn't go the way he expected it to clearly he doesn't have any Like he's expressing in this clip. He won't say it out loud probably

But he's expressing that he has no idea where to go now Like I have just shot my load more or less in this uh the earlier show and the the ramp up to trump's speech And then trump's speech disappointed it didn't do what I said it was going to do Everyone's going to know that and the only place he can turn is roger stone And so he tells him this he begs him Yeah, but let's talk about it You told me two years ago banning was bad and wanted to go after him and I said no so you didn't so I feel guilty You said that you said the generals were globalist cock suckers. Excuse my french

So tell us how not how you knew but who's the new enemy? What do we mean? Break it down Well, again, I think general kelly didn't leave until yesterday as I understand it He was impeding progress on a number of fronts right up until the last minute He is now physically out of that. You put you were the first to say it. So who does he work for? Oh, I think he is uh his job was to be a minder for donald trump for the deep state as was rex tillerson As as was uh hr mcmaster one of the greatest disasters of all time So he doesn't give him an answer at all. Alex is begging like tell me what to hate Yep, I need you to focus me in a direction because this has been a fucking disaster

And that to me kind of implies that rogers to blame For alex think no no this and there's very much a this disaster is your fault So you better fucking pick up the pieces. You told me he was definitely going to declare a national emergency Now i'm going to give you credit for being right about uh banning back then In order to present my righteous anger at you to tell me where to go because I can't figure this out Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's sad. That's pretty bad way to end the uh the the evening It is it is shot and fried being what it is that is that is very much a man who immediately recognized

I'm in over my head and I don't know anything. I yeah, there is a moment of like, uh, shit Roger doesn't know anything either. Yep. I thought he had an inside pipeline. He doesn't know shit He doesn't know a goddamn thing and he also was talking earlier in the day I didn't have any clips of this from his episode But there's an article in zero hedge about how trump wasn't going to declare a national emergency And he kept talking about it like I like zero hedge, but I think they're wrong that sort of thing And that has to be weighing on his mind too. It's like other news sources in his world Had it right he had it wrong. Yeah, and he's best friends with trump's supposed best friend

Yeah, or the way that alex builds that up. So he's got to have some sort of insecurity So that's how he ends the broadcast on the eighth In the evening. There's some more rambling, but it's not worth talking about so then He sleeps it off and comes back to work on january night on uh thursday Wednesday and uh here is how He comes to the table and this is super weird There's a couple problems with it and you'll see pretty quickly what those problems are

Now now i was going to come back in this segment and i was going to get to this later But everybody knows my habit of mentioning something coming up and getting right into it But when we come back Constitutional lawyer really smart cookie founder of oath cook uh keepers. Oh, no, it's going to be joining us Stuart Rhodes But here's the bottom line and he's a constitutional lawyer won awards Yale for his writings and of course worked for ron paul smart guy. He concurs with him with what i've said Trump essentially is no longer the president

He has advocated his responsibility. He's he's signing it away. He's letting group of people around him Tell him that he can't fire the head of the fellow reserve what you can do in the code. No, he can't Uh, that is a pretty crazy declaration that he's making there that trump is no longer president He's giving up this uh this power now still later in the episode He does talk about how like he's going to give him some time and what have you but this is i mean that's 29 days now That's as strong of languages I've seen come out of him on that kind of front the idea that like trump is no longer president He's bowing to the globalists not since isis has been up his dirty asshole, but this is during the morning

But this is during the beginning of the show and he's not wasted after a bombing Right, right. So like it's it's wild to see like I think that there is some sort of actual Narrative progression here. I've been wrong in the past and he's just walked things back entirely But I think that there is a kernel of sincere resentment and disappointment because I think When you fly too close to the sun Uh, you end up Realizing I think what your wings are made of that that sort of idea that you know like yeah

Icarus had wax wings they melted when he flew too close to the sun Alex has white nationalist wings But also fascist authoritarian leanings And he flew too close to the sun by encouraging and endorsing and supporting The hypothetical enactment of those things And he did that because of the bad information that roger stone was giving him and I think he's fucking pissed off about it I think that On some level he recognizes he showed s and he's got to reclaim it somehow and what does he do?

He starts hanging out with the fucking oath keepers again I haven't heard them a ton on the show. I haven't heard stewart-roads a ton on the show I don't remember hearing him even in any of the episodes from 2015 that we were listening to yeah in the ramp up to the election The only time I know him from and alex jones' rhetoric is 2009 when we did that episode. Yeah, yeah I mean he shows up throughout that I'm sure like he pops up during the tea party time when alex is trying to reclaim that From glenn beck's 912 stuff. Yeah, but To me this is so fascinating Because what do you do?

When that all goes bad you go back to as best as you can tell A similar spiritual version of it that you had before it's like going back to an x It's it's like he represents the militant very close to violence White supremacist version of ron paul support. Yeah, which is as close as alex can get back to home Yeah And that is what he yearns for in the day after this

Disasterous livestream where he ramped up the trump is gonna announce a national emergency And then the only way he can really deal with it when it doesn't happen is to join a militia Blame the globalists for threatening to collapse the economy. Yep great But then also saying like well, we loved trump, but he has failed us That's the only move he can make and that's the only narrative I can see moving forward And he probably would love to do that with his old riding partners The fucking

Do you think that that kind of signals a getting away from roger stones like I think court how Like, you know palace entry to tell but possibly yeah, right, right, but but I like it too But like that failure of roger stone seems to be a pretty big one It's big So is it but it's also the it's a big one in a long line of them Like roger's been wrong about a lot of stuff lately, right and I yeah, I think I think I hope so. I don't know. I'm never one who likes to make predictions I'm I'm fine with analyzing what's being said and stuff like that, but

When when it comes to that sort of stuff, I always feel like I I think it's going this way and then it ends up going the other I'm always right rare. So far be it for me to say that but it does feel like that would be That feels appropriate. It feels appropriate right now Yeah, Alex is trying to get away from whatever roger is brought into his life and it's this I'm going to stop doing this back channel bullshit and I'm going to get back to my roots, which is White people getting together and murdering it was better back then for his business It was better for all that's no kicked him off fucking youtube and facebook for that shit Yeah, that's true. So I don't know that I feel like there might be a uh, this might be the signaling of that

part of the behind the music episode or it's like And that was the beginning of the turn back to the yeah Alex Jones entered a studio with an acoustic guitar and decided to sing some hate songs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So we have one more clip and this is just uh Can't can't imagine anything more clear than this And the truth is you're a white person in germany. That's not allowed. See I see how people love to race war So they're just flipping it now

Perfect for the germans where now it's get the white people and I see on twitter and stuff they're saying ban the german language People now believe that's nazi. Yeah There's an article right there That's exactly What john waterman is talking about on his blog from a week ago about the jews and germany being the second israel There's no Difference between their rhetoric He's saying that white people in germany are to be extinguished or vanished to be gotten rid of

There's nothing There's nothing different between him and the people who are more overt and save the different words It's no different. So Insummation I don't know how i'm gonna do this Yeah, let's let's fucking fly this plane home dan Uh, look the landing gear is stuck. Oh, no, alex jones tried to do something ambitious

In this two-day span, but what he tried to do was a reveal of what's to come the apocalypse the the revolution Armageddon, yeah, these war the war literal war Direct vengeance filled war between the globalists and his nationalist armies It was going to be set off by trump coming on air in the oval office as alex jones pointed out The place for war in the place for national emergency and security

He was going to come on. He's gonna announce that the globalists are gonna have a backlash But the patriots were right and so they were going to end up vanquishing them killing them trump's military police We're gonna clear out all the bad people and the the judiciary and the media was going to be reclaimed and all that stuff We are not fucking stupid. So we see through that and we see what he's talking about is An authoritarian power grab. Yeah, alex is super excited about that. He doesn't go his way And I think he realizes he has to pivot I think he has to Because this isn't the same as the syria bombing

It's not the same because in the sober morning light. He is sticking to it. Well, there's that I think that's that's the big That's the big difference that i'm taking away from that is certainly a difference. Yeah, or well I I mean to to me when we when you play the clip from the next morning and it is A continuation Or no, no, it's worse escalation. Yeah of his previous night's shit Whereas after the syria bombing that was a man drunkenly getting angry and screaming about shit and crying and then in the next morning He's like, well, you know I got talked down exactly this morning is a

You know last night I was like, I'll give him some time I'll say all this stuff and this morning I'm thinking about it and I continue thinking about it And I don't think he's gonna come back my way and that what that Means to me what I can suss from that those differences of of response to these events Is that in the prior event with the bombing of syria What got him off that ledge and got him back in pocket was the exact advice that he no longer trusts Exactly, whatever it was that got him back into the fold before is the thing that he's like

That is what got me to say that there was going to be a fucking national emergency. Yeah was wrong Uh publicly and that's roger stone. Exactly. Yeah, and I mean it has to be so I don't know. I don't know what this pretends But I would love it to be a pivot because I think there's much more interesting fertile territory for alex outside of trump now Although I don't know how much it matters Because his true colors have shown like the mask has fallen off. Yep. He wants Someone like trump an authoritarian white nationalist to create a state of emergency wherein

Uh unlimited executive power can be Expressed in order to get rid of the people he politically disagrees with in various Media judiciary mayors governors that sort of shit. So I mean it doesn't matter what he pivots to that's in his heart Yep, you know in the same way that when we went back and heard that clip from like the 90s when he's talking about the leaderless resistance It was clearly a reference to louis beam. Yeah, like it's You this is in his heart White nationalist white supremacist ideology has always been a part of his rhetoric No matter how much he's masked it and now we also know

That a strong desire for that to be brought in through Authoritarianism fascism strong arm tactics that is also probably always been in his heart. Yeah So I don't care what he does really although just from a Performance standpoint it would be more interesting It wouldn't change my feelings on him, but I guess it would be more interesting to to disentangle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I see so much of because because of all the stuff we've gone over so much of that couching of his real authoritarian white nationalist bent is

Similar to so many people who are less engaged their talking points come from all of these different places and these people who are less engaged probably Don't have an intellectual understanding of the underpinnings of their Talking points, which are of course white nationalist Giving them the benefit of the doubt what they're doing is they're they're picking teams You know, this is my team. That's your team. I'm gonna go with my team no matter what and it is really important It in response to his rhetoric and this is gonna come from left field from me

uh You should talk to the people who are not engaged who say things like this bullshit very anti-jordan very anti-jordan because you know my family They are saying things so eerily and fucking consistently similar to alex And they don't realize that they're white nationalists like they just don't know Yeah, they they think they're republicans and it's it's turned into the same thing and they didn't They didn't know that it was the same thing It's a um, it's a frog in a pot kind of situation the gradually raising the temperature makes you not realize

What has become of yeah the thing you uh felt comfortable in for a time And it is now boiling and it's gonna it's gonna be a shit conversation, but It's it's gotta be something that we have to actually communicate is that if you are a disengaged republican You are inexplicably uh, no, you're very explicitly now a white nationalist and you got to figure out How you got there you have someone like steve king who's in office and you just you can't square that with When did white nationalism become a bad term dam? You can't square that with complacency. There's no way to do that you like it's it's not it's not okay and Yeah, I think you're right. You could should have those conversations with people and it's possible to have those conversations with people

It's not it's not appropriate to like just go and beat some people up for your Siding on the wrong side Pick the right people though because you might get your ass kicked if you pick the wrong people It's it is still conducive to uh conversation to try and explain to people that what they are doing is tacitly Supporting violence. They're tacitly supporting violence against minorities people with different gender expressions people in people with medical conditions that people look down on people who are You know gain lesbians bisexuals all of it. They you it's tacit violence against them and it's not okay. Yep

Anyway, oh Dan this was a fucking journey. It was and I think it's an important episode in terms of our coverage of alex jones I think it's really a Illustrative I wanted to write like a fucking long speech to give at the end of this that really ties a bunch of Strings together, but I think but trump already wrote it. So, you know, yeah Yeah, you didn't have a chance and they also think that a lot of it is pretty clear, you know I think I think what you see here is the mask falling off and it's not It's not forced. It's an unforced error

It's it it is absolutely alex showing his cards and it's embarrassing and pretty fucked up But it's also not news. We already knew this stuff about him. He's just demonstrating it publicly So we'll be back next week On monday, but until then yeah, we'll be back with probably a less Incredibly scary not sure about that. Oh you son of a bitch We'll be back though and we will then we have a website knowledge fight.com. We do We also have a twittering account. That's right. We're in we twitter. It's a knowledge underscore authoritarianism is great Yep, and we're on facebook. Exactly. Go home and tell your mother. You're a fascist. That's right

That's a great group that you can join. We're also on iTunes we are on iTunes the name of our podcast on iTunes is knowledge fascism. That's correct. Uh guys has been a lot of fun Fuck god all these people We do we have anybody who probably hasn't killed a guy Mike Adams bad medical advice has probably killed someone Look that guy from black pill seems like a real shithead, but I bet he hasn't killed anybody That's true. Seems like he just has some bad film criticism and bad ideas about race relations That's probably not killed anybody, but one guy who technically probably has

That guy is alex johns. Andy and chan's us. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex i'm a first name caller i'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you