Knowledge Fight - #253: January 15, 2019

Episode Date: January 17, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day of the Alex Jones Show, and what do you know, they find Alex carrying a bunch of water for outright white nationalist Rep. Steve King. A disappointing thing to find, but not too surprising.

Andy and Chanzos, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan. Hi, Jordan. Have you ever bought a sex toy? Yeah, no. I guess I didn't buy it. A friend of the show, Marty DeRosa, one time.

A friend of the show, Marty DeRosa, has spent a lot of time in sex toy shops. He bought me a flashlight on our way back from doing a week of shows in Cleveland. Oh, boy. We did a week in Cleveland. As like an apology? Yeah, because I didn't really get paid for the shows and stuff. I was just sort of along for the fun and the ride. And on the way back, we went through, I think we went through Indiana and the Lion's Den is the notorious sex shop.

And so we went in and Marty was thinking about getting a flashlight and I'm like, I can't afford this. I can't. I can't afford this. This is just too much. That was your that was your response to that? Not like I don't want a flashlight. I was curious at the time I was a younger man. OK, fair, fair. And so like I was like, well, you know, I think it would be fun, whatever. I'd never really dabbled in that world. And so like I was looking at the cheaper ones.

Yeah, the real shitty flashlight knockoff type things. And Marty saw my flashlight, if you will. When Marty was like going to the checkout and what have you, he he saw me sadly looking at these these low rent sex toys. And he's like, you know what? Make it around. So kind of friend, Marty DeRosa is that's the best. Yeah, he's told the story a number of times, so I don't mind putting his business in the streets.

Love you, Marty. I had that flashlight for a little while and it was kind of it wears out its novelty. Yeah, the excitement of, you know, the first time around or whatever is is great. But then over time, it becomes a hassle. You got to like, you got to clean it. You got to do the whole thing. Oh, one time. I Rory Scoville has the best bit about the flashlight. I'm sure I would just end up paraphrasing it with my own compliance

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You know, you can't spend like 10 minutes doing this or else we get into trouble. So, Jordan, today we have got, oh, first of all, sorry about the weird schedule this week as opposed to Monday, Wednesday, Friday, doing Tuesday, Thursday episodes. Things were a little bit hectic and I just couldn't keep up. Quite frankly, I'll take this one. I'll take it. I'll own it. You know, it is just a matter of this is there's a lot to do, especially with

our last episode with all the Soros business and stuff like that. Sometimes it's just the workloads too much. So Tuesday, Thursday, this week, we're back to normal next week. Absolutely. I don't think anyone's mad about it. And I'm not, I'm not defensive about it. I just want to hear a little difference. No, not really.

I know it may seem like it, but I'm not. Okay. I just want to give a little bit of explanation for people. Good. So today, Jordan, we are going to be going over a modern day episode. We're going to be going over the 15th of January, 2019. In, in, in the year of our Lord, that's correct. I'm still writing June on my checks.

That's correct. You got to get out of that habit. And so that would be Tuesday's episode and I chose that because Alex has had this, this big news broke recently. I'm sure you heard something about this and that is that he lost a little legal situation wherein the Sandy Hook families who are suing him will be able to get in discovery, some of his financial documents and internal memos. Yes.

Yeah, yeah. He, there's this, there's this legal situation and everybody is bringing it up to me and I wanted to be able to address it by covering whatever Alex is talking about about it. But because it's something negative in Alex's life, he's not talking about it. So I listened to Monday and a lot of it is just a complaining about that Gillette commercial and that's a zero for me. But that's a non-starter, not interested in that sort of stuff.

Nope. Not, not really caring so much. Yep. Um, and so we're not going to go over that episode, but Tuesday the 15th, uh, there was a bit more stuff that actually interested me and I think Merritt's talking about, uh, and so we will. And here is an out of context drop from today's show. Oh, it's well known.

Trump likes tacos and Obama likes, likes winners. Ha, ha, get it. Get it. Nope. Alex likes to have fun. Refuse. Yeah. Refuse.

I, I blanket refuse that. It's ironic too, because that's a piece of his conversation that he's having where he's defending Trump, getting all those, uh, hamburgers for the, uh, the football team, the Clemson football, right? Right. Right. Uh, and, uh, he brings up tacos. He got hamburgers because he likes pussy.

Get it. And, and Obama got food because he likes dicks. Get it. I don't know. So anyway, we will start the show with what is Alex's main narrative on the show. Yes. And, uh, it should not surprise anyone to hear any of this sort of nonsense. A really important story that illustrates why we can't take this country back.

The GOP has thrown representative King. Overboard Steve King with a out of context quote from the New York Times, who's famous for life. The New York Times is a criminal, anti-American, vicious life factory. He's put a letter out. He said that they removed words out of what he said. Which one? Clear what he was saying.

And none of the media will even clear it out. It is super clear what he said. The headlines are Steve King says he isn't a white supremacist, but he stands by his quote that white supremacists are good when he's got a public statement out the last day and a statement the day before that saying it's not true. I have experienced the New York Times. They are a ship of devils. So you can kind of see there at the end that a lot of the energy that's driving

this is probably about Alex's own personal beef with the New York Times. No, but I think it's kind of interesting. I admit that I haven't listened to every episode of his show in the present day as I do whenever I go back to the past. But I don't remember him talking that much about Steve King in the past. Oh, I wonder why. And it surprises me not to hear him defend Steve King, but that it surprises me to hear it.

If that makes sense. Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's kind of like, oh, I haven't heard you talk much about that guy. That's what's surprising. Yeah, of course I would have expected him to always be talking about him. Of course you defend Steve King. That's obvious, but that you do it publicly is a bad move for you. Not even the public part.

It's that it's not so common in my memory that it strikes a novel chord. No, because this is the first time Steve King has said anything that would associate him with the white nationalist movement. But that's only because the New York Times is taking the context out of this quote and putting him in that box. He's never been a white supremacist or white nationalist. That's why Alex didn't need to talk about him because he's never been attacked for being a white nationalist or white supremacist before because

Dan, of course, he has never said anything. No, he hasn't. And Alex is going to make that point super clear in this next clip. But here's the issue. Then to bolster it, the New York Times gives a history of his white supremacist attitude. Supremacist. And when you read the quotes, it's, he talks about illegal aliens having

double the crime rate. Okay. Uh-oh. He says we should be proud of the accomplishments of Western civilization. Absolutely. Aren't the Chinese proud of themselves? Are the Japanese proud of themselves? Not the same thing.

It's just, it's just a Rosetta stone into everything, how they lie, how they manipulate, and how the weak need chicken neck Republicans desperate to curry favor with the left and race-based leftist constituents through him overboard. So he's mad. Alex is pretty mad about this. So I want to address one thing really quick. The GOP by taking Steve's, uh, uh, King off of these committees, that's

not turning on Steve King because they disagree with his positions or anything like that. The only reason they've stripped him of his committee seats, uh, is because Randy Fiendstra, the chairman of the Iowa State Senate Ways and Means Committee had just announced his candidacy to run against King in the 2020 primary. If they didn't have a very viable replacement waiting in the wings, they would still be dragging their feet and pretending he was just outspoken like

they have for years. Oh, no, come on, because they have a primary challenger who's looks like he can go the distance. The GOP is finally taking a stance against white supremacist Dan. That is why they have gotten rid of 98% of, uh, their constituencies. There's a second reason too. And that is because for years, uh, Steve King served as like sort of a, uh, extremist in terms of immigration policy and that sort of thing.

And so politicians who wanted to curry favor with that side of the Republican party could associate themselves with him in a way that I have seen a couple of reporters describe as like, he was a king maker of like right wing, uh, immigration stuff, but, but now he isn't that anymore. Trump is, so he doesn't even serve that function for the right wing anymore. So he's as useless as he can be. And he's just a liability. That's a good point.

Yeah. So those two things together, the primary candidate, uh, that can unseat him successfully without the baggage. Yeah. And the fact that he doesn't serve what role he used to serve, make him useless. So of course they're going to throw him away now. It is nothing to do with his white supremacy, the comments that he's making. It has nothing to do with this article even.

They would have just ignored this as they have for years. So Steve King has always been on some bullshit, but this current example that he's going through right now is nothing new. Him questioning why what white supremacy is considered a bad thing, uh, then claiming that the New York times made up the quote. Uh, that also isn't a new trick for him to pull back in November, 2018. The weekly standard reported that while speaking with potential voters at a restaurant at a campaign stop, Steve King compared immigrants to dirt.

He was talking about how some local jalapenos were grown in Mexican dirt to which, uh, the conversation turned from literal dirt to how there's metaphorically a lot of dirt on the way to America from Mexico. After the article came out, Steve King denied ever having said such a thing, accused the weekly standard, a notoriously conservative outlet of lying about what he said and demanded that they proved, uh, that he said it, saying, quote, just release the full tape, leftist lies exist without original sources because they're false and manufactured alloc, uh, accusations.

So they did. They released the tape and it said exactly what they had claimed and showed King clearly calling immigrants and asylum seekers dirt. So when he tries to play this game, uh, the same gambit again with the New York Times, I don't feel like I have much interest in giving him the benefit of the doubt. Is it possible that Steve King is such an out of touch bigot and white supremacist that he doesn't realize how overt the things he says are until someone else reports on his comments?

Yes, that might be the case. I don't care because the evidence that Steve King is a real fucked up, racist asshole go far deeper than not liking illegal immigration and being quote unquote proud of the West as Alex is asserting. I had a weird conversation with Steve King one time. You mean the comic who's now writer for as a no, he has a Steve Castillo.

Yeah, yeah. Uh, no, no, no, he was trying to explain to me that it's the hard ER. That's the issue. And so that's why he can throw around the N word all the time. And he's not a racist. You know, you know how those conversations go? I've heard those. Yeah.

I've heard a lot of those. So Steve King served on the Iowa state Senate from 1996 to 2002, then made the jump to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2003, where he has been ever since over that span of time, Representative King has said some real and intensely stupid and bigoted things. And here are some of them. Oh, also, did you know that until at least 2016, Steve King had a Confederate

flag on his office desk? Let me remind you that he's a representative for Iowa, which was in the union during the Civil War. That is absolutely not a reflection of Southern pride or whatever the fuck the people like to say. That's a message. King would go on to remove the flag from his desk after Scott Michael Green murdered two Iowa police officers in an ambush style killing in 2017.

Footage was found of Green being asked by other police officers to leave the Urban Dale High School football game he was attending after he started waving a Confederate flag around a group of black students. Oh, that's oh, come on. Oh, come on. Interestingly, after Dillon Roof murdered nine churchgoers in Charleston, South Carolina, because of his racist ideology, and everybody started talking about how it's fucked up that Confederate flags are flown at state houses.

King gave a speech in support of the Confederate flag, calling it a symbol of heroism for the South and saying, quote, I regret deeply that we're watching this country be divided again over a symbol. Again, he represents Iowa divided over a symbol. The first time we were divided over a different different symbol. No, different thing. I think it's still the same thing that we're kind of divided about right now. Just pretending it's a symbol.

Yeah. And again, Iowa, Iowa, not like it would be better if he was from the South, like one of the actual Confederate states make more sense. It wouldn't. The argument of Southern pride and that sort of thing would make way more sense than to be doing this as the representative for a Union state. I don't know, though. Anyway, in September 2016, he went on a little jag condemning black people

for having abortions because they listened to people in the congressional black caucus saying, quote, they chose to have a congressional black caucus. They chose to have an abortion. I would give you even money that a vast majority of mothers who say they can't afford an abortion have an iPhone, which costs more. I mean, that's a cool comment. Oh, man. Hey, how about welfare queens, Dan?

How about them welfare queens? I bet they're all different races. I bet they're not a dog, whistly term at all. It does feel a little bit subtle there. We're easing our way into this. Although I guess the Confederate flag on the desk as a representative I owe is pretty harsh right out of the game that that does that. If that's a that's a literal red flag, yeah.

Then, of course, there was the time in 2018 when he went to Austria to meet with members of Austria's Freedom Party, a political party that was founded by Anton Reinhaller, a literal member of the Nazi SS. When asked about it, he very presently said of the group, quote, if they were in America pushing the platform they push, they would be Republicans. No argument. Yeah, yeah, you're dead on. Yeah, that's that that doesn't mean what you think it means, Steve King.

Or maybe it does. It probably does. Of course, this was after he'd endorsed Faith Goldie's campaign for the mayorship of Toronto after she had appeared on a podcast run by the Daily Stormer and repeated the 14 words of white supremacy. It should surprise no one that he supported Faith Goldie, as King himself tweeted a paraphrasing of the 14 words saying, quote, we can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.

That tweet, by the way, was retweeted by David Duke, who in all caps said, thank God for Steve King, hashtag truth rising. This guy has never been a white supremacist. No, no, no, no, this is this whole New York Times interview is a first, which I assume is why the GOP is reactive. Totally so out of control right now. Totally. He's never been a white supremacist before.

In a July 2016 appearance on MSNBC right around the Republican National Convention time, Steve King extolled the virtues of white people, saying, quote, I'd ask you to go back through history and figure out where these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you're talking about, where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization? He was later called on it and gave a whoops kind of apology, saying that he'd met Western civilization instead of white people, which is really just a perfect example of giving up the game.

I kind of just telling people what your dog whistles are at that point. Oh, no, when I said white, I meant to speak in code. I accidentally said what I know. I know, I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say Western, which means white, but I instead said white when I meant to say, you know, what an asshole. In July, 2013, he did an interview with Newsmax where he said of immigrants, quote, for every young undocumented immigrant who's a valedictorian,

there's another hundred out there away, 130 pounds. And they got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. Cool, bro. Steve King won his first election in 2002 by whipping up nativist energy with his proposed bill to make English the official language of Iowa, which again is why I just, that would be my response. Why?

I don't know why that's an important issue, unless you're just trying to wedge people a little bit and drum up insecurities and fears about the other. It was, it was weird when he floated that bill to make the Iowa city official sister city Berlin, but only in 1939. Very strange proposal. It was a strange proposal. Like popular with a certain subsection. It doesn't, it doesn't want to be sister cities with Berlin now.

No, no, no, no, no, no. More like 1939. Full of globalists. Yeah. Yeah. In 2006, he publicly declared that every day 12 Americans are killed by quote, murderous illegal aliens and 13 more are killed by quote, drunk driving illegals.

He was just making up statistics, but the rhetoric stuck. And you can hear the same talking point repeated all through conservative propaganda media. I've definitely heard this exact line come out of Alex's mouth at least a dozen times. In November 2009, he skipped his son Mick's wedding to cast a pointless vote against the Affordable Care Act. That one might be less a point about his racism.

More, more just a point about him being a piece of shit. I don't know. Hey, family's a tough man. Yeah, I get it. And in June, 2018, he told Breitbart that he didn't want Muslims working in meat factories saying quote, the rationale is that if infidels are eating this pork, the Muslims are not eating it. So as long as they're preparing this pork for infidels to help send them to

hell and must make a law happy. I don't want people doing my doing that with my pork that won't eat it. Let alone hope they go to hell for eating pork chops convoluted as fuck. I don't understand that reasoning at all. I think what he's trying to express is he's worried that Muslims will taint the pork because they know that other Muslims aren't eating it or something like that. I think that's what he's trying to express.

Right. That would be the logical thing. But I because otherwise, because otherwise it doesn't make sense. Like if you're just saying like they're working there and they won't eat it. So fucking what? I think he's, I think he's couching it in terms of like I'm being culturally sensitive to them. No, no, no, no, no.

Cause he he's saying, um, you know, so as long as they're preparing this pork for infidels, it helps send them to hell and must make a law happy. Infidels are sent to hell. Yeah. And it must make a law happy, which is implying that you're going to taint the meat somehow. Even if you're not tainting the meat, even if his, his, uh, scary Muslims aren't tainting the meat.

What he's saying is that Muslims are joyfully preparing meat for white folk in order to ensure that by their religious code, right? White people go to hell. I don't see a problem with that part, which, which is, I mean, if that's, if that were what he's talking about, like the idea that they're doing a great job because they know when people eat it, they, their enemies will go to hell. Then you get great pork, I guess. I want the best pork to send my enemies to hell.

It heavily implies that he thinks that they're going to taint the meat. Yeah, of course. That's a real pretty fucked up, uh, sort of way to look at things. So that same month in June, 2018, King, uh, retweeted a vowed European neo Nazi Mark Collette's tweet when he posted a Breitbart article and editorialized that quote, 65% of Italians under the age of 35 now oppose mass immigration. Europe is waking up. King retweeted that saying, quote, Europe is waking up.

Will America in time? We, uh, I hate to see our country divided like this, Dan, over a symbol. I hate to see our country divided hate to see it. Oh, it's 2004 when the abuses of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison were revealed. He said that they amounted to basically just hazing. Oh, okay. So he and Alex are on the same page on that one. Well, hey, what are you going to do?

Hey, you know how I say that facetiously, Alex was very against, uh, the torture. That is, that is at the time, at the time. Yeah, good point. Through the years, King's been a supporter of all the far right foreign politicians that Alex also loves. We see, we've seen Steve King strongly support Geert Wilders, Marine Le Pen and Victor Orban. And what do you know when he was being interviewed by those Austrian Nazi

descendants I mentioned, he advocated the position that Soros was behind the great replacement, the theory of white Westerners being replaced culturally and demographically by immigrants. So this guy's, I mean, he's a piece of shit and he has been for his entire career. That's, that's kind of the point. But Steve King has not existed in a bubble. His story is an interesting story that is very demonstrative of the deterioration of the conservative body politic in this country.

And in order to understand a little more about how that's the case, it's important to follow the money. If you look at the information that's public about Steve King and who's donating to him, you see an interesting picture. The first thing that jumps out to you is that in the 2017-2018 cycle, the US Navy tied, tied for first place among his donors, the $10,800 in donations from individuals being sent that his way from within the Navy, which it does not make me feel great.

No, no, no, that's good. It doesn't make me feel great. No, that's good. He also got $10,000 from the John Bolton political action committee, which seems suspicious, but I don't know what to make of also. But if you look at his past fundraising, you also see a very interesting trend, namely that his numbers are pretty normal for most years, then take a massive spike in the 2012 election.

He goes from 1.02 million raised in the 2010 cycle to 3.8 million just two years later. A lot of that money, over 250,000 of it came from an organization called Club for Growth, which sounds like a really fun, nice name for an organization. In reality, the group is a far right fundraising outfit whose activities went into overdrive in 2012, as they funneled at least $10 million to then governor of Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Scott Walker, both to oppose his recall vote and support his initiative to strip collective bargaining protections and cripple unions.

You misunderstand their name. Their name, you think it means a collection of people who are pro-growth. What it is, is a literal cudgel that is for the growth of the white nationalist system. Or to beat back growth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. Peter Thiel is their biggest donor. Uh, not so, that might be of interest. What's not so of interest is in 2012, they were the recipient of tons of money

from Koch Network funds, like Freedom Partners. The NRA gave Steve King $11,300 and the Family Research Council and Koch Industries chipped in $10,000 each, along with tons of other suspiciously named political action committees that clearly aren't fronts. Whites for white growth was a actually very, uh, on the nose one. There's a huge push in the 2012 election to retain what gains had been made in the previous four years by the weirdo Tea Party wing of the Republican Party and to not succumb to dwindling support and enthusiasm that definitely was happening

at that point. Part of this was a massive cash infusion in the coffers of various people who were carrying the banner of what the people funding the Tea Party were into. And Steve King was absolutely one of the main figures. Based on the door, like based on that swelling of his, uh, money, it's really hard to think that that's not the case. The Tea Party was about small government, Dan. It had no reaction to a black president.

I can't see why Steve King would be, that's, that's just a coincidence. So not, but this is the thing. You see that exact same pattern when you look into the money going into other Tea Party candidates. Louis Gohmert is a bit of an exception because he was a Republican running in Texas, so his race was pretty much a sure thing. But Michelle Bachman is another great case. She raised just under 3.5 million in the 2008 election.

Then that number skyrocketed to 13.5 in 2010 and 15 million in 2012. Who's Michelle Bachman's top donor throughout her career? You guessed it, the club for growth. Who's Ted Cruz's all time top donor? Club for growth. Who's Rand Paul's career spanning top donor, the club for growth, with over $100,000 of the total he's received from them coming in the 2012 cycle. There is a concerted effort on the part of very rich conservative interests to

shift the politics of the right to a more extreme version of conservatism in the 2012 election cycle and before, but that was crunch time. But that's not news. It's not even news to say that Steve King was a big part of that, but it's important for our purposes because it demonstrates the sort of thing that they were interested in being part of that shift. The fact that an outright white supremacist was among their top guys should tell you everything that you need to know about what they wanted the

Overton window to move towards at that time. Yeah. When you said the, the, what was it? What was the word you used? I, I suppose it wasn't disintegration. It was descendant or descendants into deterioration, deterioration. That was right. I would view that more as the apotheosis of what the, the Republican

party has wanted to be. So I agree with you, but I think we're talking about the same thing. Just looking at it for different angles. Liz Mayor, a former Republican National Committee spokesperson, described what Steve King has done for the Republican party perfectly. Quote, very, very few grassroots conservatives or elected Republicans actually agree with him on immigration policy. However, he enables elected Republicans who are more restrictionist or otherwise

hardline to strike a pose that reads as moderate. That's the kingmaker piece of this. Yeah. He is the person who people are able to be around and be like, well, I'm not Steve King. He exists as that. Now Donald Trump is that right. You don't have to.

Anyway, he was the, he was the bulwark in the same way that Alex did the interview with David Duke ostensibly trying to distance himself from white nationalists. Steve King was that guy where it's like, this guy says all the stuff that I want to stay, but because I can distance myself from him, I can do all the stuff that results in the things that he wants to be done without ever being associated really. Well, if you're, if you're pretty far right, hard right, and you have a guy

who's an outright fascist white supremacist creep, you look like you're pretty close to the middle in comparison. And that's an important person to have around. Absolutely. Quite frankly. No. So that explains, I think, in some ways, why people would be willing to spend so much money keeping him around, despite his horrible opinions or not despite it.

Yeah, not because of it, entirely because of it. So that's the role that he served. And I think almost everybody who understood politics to an extent knew that that's the role he served and why Republicans would never take target at him. And now we've come to a point where he's no longer needed. He's like a appendix. He's a vestigial organ of the bigotry machine that needed to be put in place.

The machine is in place now. You don't need that appendix. Right. So he's getting removed. And that's that. So all this is to say that Alex is full of shit. Whatever his nonsense about Steve King being above board about stuff. Nonsense.

I think we've dispensed with that idea of the liberal media lying. I don't think anyone who listens to our show needed any of that. I think they all knew that this guy is a giant dick. But I just wanted to I wanted to get into that because we haven't talked about him really. And I think that some of that is pretty important stuff. Well, and it's important again to note that in the 2018 election, all of his white supremacist views were on wide.

Like you could see them super clear. And he's still won reelection by it was pretty close. It was close. It was closer than it should have been. But it was still like six points or whatever it was. But but to be fair, there's still a chance like he was still needed. His challenger was a Democrat. So these moneyed Republicans are still going to defend him until there's another option.

Of course. So we have that other option. Fair the well, Steve King. You will be out of office in 2020. Yep, you'll lose that primary. So now at this point, Alex is defending Steve King. And he says something in this next clip that I think is a brutal slip of the tongue. Not like saying something racist.

But I think he just says n word, n word, n word, n word, n word, n word. That wouldn't be a slip of the tongue for Alex, Steve King. No, no, no, no, no, he says something here that just makes me think, oh, hmm. We've got to oh my gosh, oh my gosh, you've got brown skin. Can I bow down to you when you call me some human? But then the same criminal organization, I mean, it's a criminal organization takes clearly. We're saying white supremacists, you know, Nazis, all this stuff.

You know, they're comparing it to Western civilization. That's the quote. And the New York Times removes that out and just says, you know, has King up there saying that and it's out of context when we all know his talking points. So it's incredible, dumb, f-ing white people making up the internet, marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants. I mean, she is a vicious, anti-white piranha.

So I think your eyes perked up at exactly the point that I was talking about. We all know his talking points. Yeah, that's a weird thing for Alex to say. I think it's a real bad slip up because that implies that ideas that King espouses are talking points. And the fact that Alex seems to be very familiar with them to the point of claiming to know what he meant to say in this interview. And the fact that King's rhetoric matches up with Alex really well seems to imply

that they might be getting talking points from a similar source. I don't know. It seems a very, very strange phrasing. No, so you're so unfair, Dan. If there's one thing I know in all of our episodes together, if there's one thing I know, it's that you've always been so unfair to white supremacists. I may be a little unfair in this point. He might just be talking, but it's a weird thing.

It's a weird thing for him to say. Oh no, I was being super facetious. I understand that you were. I were not being unfair. I could see an argument that I'm making them out and out of a molehill, but at the same time, it's a very strange thing for Alex to say. We all know his talking points. Yeah.

So do every Republican and Democratic Congress and they've always known he never says that people who agree with him have talking points. That's why it's a big slip. That's a fair point. He always talks about how like all of his weirdo patriots and all of them, they're just on the same page naturally. Yeah, like him and Trump agree about everything, but it's not because they coordinate, it's because they just know the truth and they're right about everything.

So for him to be saying something about Steve King that implies that he has talking points, it seems like a little bit of a slip. Well, and it's also like that's a really good point, but it also suggests that he knows that Steve King isn't the one controlling what Steve King says. Yeah, if he has no, that's that's buried in there. Yeah, if he has talking points, that means that they're coming from somewhere. He didn't create these talking points. Exactly.

It doesn't apply to that. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, in this next clip, Alex just talks more about Steve King and is dumb. I'm going to go through every angle of it because it's bigger than Steve King. That's true. It's the anatomy of how the New York Times deceives, how they twist. And then once they put out one big lie and define someone as something, they then attach the false thing to real things.

They said, thus defining saying that illegal aliens have double the crime rate of the average citizen. That's an FBI's own numbers. That becomes the white supremacist statement. And then out of that, they've set the new precedent to have the Republicans grovel and fear and throw them under the bush and go virtue signal. So what Alex is trying to describe there is basically how he does stuff. Yeah, like the idea of attaching things to people and like creating

like complete perceptions out of people based on blurring lines and stuff like that. Yeah, absolutely. And look, this this idea about like immigrants committing two times the crime of of citizens and stuff like that, that is a white supremacist idea. You don't need to latch that on to him. And now we accuse that statistic of being somehow white supremacist. Well, and the the thing that I take such exception to with this bullshit or at least white nationalist, well, just to be specific, go ahead.

Well, just it just like that's that's unfair to a level that is ridiculous. Just the report that came out about the NBC News, like a muzzling of actually calling racist things racist. That some have described this as racist. Yeah, exactly. Like it can't be more overstated how wrong he is in the in the direction that he's taking it like the only people who are going out of their way to try and be, quote, fair and shit like that are liberal.

Well, you know, media outlets that just don't want to call racism racism because they're afraid it'll offend somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. And this this this notion, this thing that he's putting forth, and he keeps he said it a couple of times now, this immigrants commit twice the crimes. I mean, we just have to dispel with this. The Oxford Criminology and Criminal Justice Research Unit did a study on immigration and crime in 2017 that reflected a bunch of different studies

that have been done, compiled into the one that poured over all the data. And here are some excerpts, quote, quantitative research has consistently shown that being foreign born is negatively associated with crime overall and is not significantly associated with committing either violent or property crime. If an undocumented immigrant is arrested for a criminal offense, it tends to be for a misdemeanor. Additionally, immigrants who have access to social services are less likely

to engage in crime than those who live in communities where such access is not available. That last part is completely obvious, given that being charged with the crime might jeopardize their access to essential services, which is entirely against their interests. The study further found that foreign born victims of crimes are much less likely to report crimes against them because of fears of being mistreated by the police or being deported. Some statistics they found for pouring over all the data, between 2005 and 2010,

the incarceration rate rose 16 percent among US citizens, but only 7 percent foreign born non-citizens. They studied Alex's own hometown to see if there was any pattern between newly arriving immigrants in crime and found, quote, using Austin City track level analysis in the city police department's crime records from 2004 to 2006, Mansfield found no relationship between new immigrant immigration and serious property crime rates. They posited that new arrivals might have revitalized neighborhoods by causing

a bottom up growth among Mexican immigrant commercial enterprises in the city. They reviewed violent crime statistics in cities with high drug and homicide issues like Miami and San Diego and found that immigrants were not the people committing these crimes, but in many cases, second generation immigrants were. So they refined the data analysis and found that places with higher rates of financial security, which is to say jobs and access to social services. Yeah, the crime rate was lower than average cities. Oh, really? Yes.

This I wonder why this effective poverty is mitigated by access to social services and employment, those sorts of things being around. It has no relation to immigrant status. What I would find like this would be such an interesting experiment is were the consequences for misdemeanors and and, you know, like nonviolent crimes equal for white people as they are for, you know, undocumented immigrants. Would we see a massive drop in white people crime?

Do you know what I'm saying? Like, imagine if there was a real threat that you would get deported for a for like shop for shoplifting, you know, like just you and I. How how much lower do you think crime would be if the threat? You know, yeah, it's if that disincentivizing aspect were there. As far as I think you're probably as far as the deterrent goes, it's almost it almost seems like that is more of a deterrent than the death penalty. I don't have like, you know, access to statistics on that,

but it makes intuitive sense. It does definitely seem like that. Yeah, no, it's a pure thought experiment. There's no way to ever kind of account for it. But that's that's an interesting idea. So these studies also looked at Chicago. A 2009 study looked at neighborhoods with high poverty rates and low employment. And the researcher found that it quote,

in areas where there were large populations of recent immigrants, the number of homicides decreased. Velez attributed this finding to the reinvigoration of neighborhoods when new immigrants arrived. Huh. Yep. There is there is very good data to suggest that crime goes down when there's an influx of immigrants. So when diversity is not even diversity,

like when like this has always been the case for first generation immigrants has always been like, dude, we're scraping to get by in your fucking country. We know that it's not our home. But goddamn it, we're trying to make it our home. And so we're going to go out of our way to do everything possible to kind of try and fit into this. Like when they talk about the bastardization or like it's it's awful. All of this is diversity and we don't have enough white representation.

Every time the immigrants wind up coming in and making a place infinitely better. And just even in ways that are statistically trackable. Yeah, absolutely. You can find a hundred studies that get into the minutia of exactly how the idea that immigrants commit more crimes than citizens is wrong. But we can leave that here for now. The only study that seems to indicate that immigrants commit more crime comes from the Crime Prevention Research Center and asserts that, quote,

undocumented immigrants are at least 146 percent more likely to be convicted of crime than the control subset that was used. Who pays? It's not about paying necessarily, but I'm going to throw the data out here because it relies on arrest numbers from 1985 to 2017 in Arizona, where we know that Joe Arpaio was busy presiding over the most racially predatory police department in recent memory in Arizona's most populous city. I'm not sure how much that skews the data, but I'm sure it does.

I'm sure it at least is a factor in it. So I'm going to go ahead and say I don't accept that study. Well, I mean, if they just arrested Arpaio for all the crimes he committed, then that that study would be reversed by a million percent. It would definitely make it down. Yeah, for all of the arrests that illegal or that undocumented immigrants had in Arizona, if you just arrested Joe Arpaio each time he committed a crime, it would reverse by a margin of two to one.

Perhaps. All this is just to say that claiming that immigrants have doubled the crime rate in the United States is an expression of white supremacy. It's a talking point of the people out there who seek to spread fear of shifting demographics and baseless paranoia about white genocide. Nice use of italics. Thanks. So that's that's really what's going on there, I believe. Anyway, it should come as no surprise, especially based on all that that we,

you know, you could start to start to put the pieces together. You understand, oh, he's lying about immigrants committing more crimes and stuff like that. It should surprise nobody that Alex immediately decides to start season two of caravan paranoia. Another big caravan is on its way. Now, you know, I know how to translate their lies. This is hundreds of Hondurans. ABC News, News Trust, AP, hundreds of Hondurans set off towards the United States

of New Caravan. And so when you go look up the actual photos in those countries, it's thousands, just like they said, that the tens of thousands that ripped down the gates in Mexico and all the rest of it were were hundreds. And they'll find a little corner group of a couple of women, always a close shot of a woman with a child and say, oh, this is all there is. This is the non-existent threat. You pull back the camera and it's 10,000, 20,000, 30,000, 40,000, 50,000. All you in funded.

A hoard. So that's how this works. And that's how the globalists get this job done. But they know there's free welfare. Everything else up here. Yeah. So they're on the way. But they're smart. They get the paycheck on average and get the welfare.

So that's that's that's that's the trick that the illegal aliens engage in. Cool. You're a fucking piece of shit. Yeah, I don't really feel the need to respond to that. That's just a hey, there's that. That's the yeah. There's Alex. I'm going to say that what surprises me more than anything else is that he didn't double down on that.

Like, yeah, I don't get why it's wrong to say you're a white nationalist. I don't get why it's wrong to say. Well, he does a little bit, but he's just talking about the nationalist part, you know, because that's his that's the way he deflects that sort of stuff. It's easier for him than to like fully own that space. Yeah. Then just to say all they're talking. It's the same confusion that Coach Dave did.

But Alex is being sort of intentionally obtuse about the idea that white nationalist is just white and nationalist, not a compound noun. Like with Coach Dave, you're like, oh, man, you might be too dumb to know that. With Alex, it's like you you fucking you're deflecting. You fucking know, yeah. So there's news that the caravans coming back. It's coming again. And it's all those caravans.

Hondurans. It's bigger than ever. Are we angry at Hondurans? Alex is Alex. Alex, I challenge you without a any primer. Tell me where Honduras is. I know the capital is to Guljagalpa. You love capitals.

I do. You love Funley named. Yeah, that's a fun one. Fun named Burkina Faso's capital is a waga do go. I know that's a good one. Me Madagascar. What's that? Antananarivo. Oh, yeah.

They're a city, state, city, state and civilization. Six. Oh, but wait. Yeah, but not it. I've held many that I can't get on the switch. So many trade routes I've had between not important. OK, so there's news that this is happening. And then there's other news and that is what the leftists are doing about it. Oh, there's a lot of the leftists are now being hired to be drug mules.

Yes, it's it's it's so wonderful. All because they went and saw a machete funded by the federal government. That turned out to be where Don Johnson's wearing a cowboy hat, shooting Hispanic pregnant women in the stomach. And then like little birds imprinting the leftist. Watch all that and believe it. And then they they they go to the border and help smuggle people in. And the coyotes say, thank you.

That makes no sense. So leftists have watched machete, machete, whatever directed by Robert Rodriguez. We'll get back into him in a second. OK, they go see machete and they see Don Johnson being depicted as a white racist. And they realize they like I'm going to be hired as a drug smuggler for the cartels. Yeah, that sounds that sounds right. Cool, man. Cool. So I told you a second ago that we'd get into Robert Rodriguez.

And what do you know? Here it is. Of course. And Robert Rodriguez is a he fits the part of flaming anti-white. Super racist. Some people that know him just has cussing fits at what he was raised by white people that took care of him and funded him and all that. And dates, white women, but just see, Nazi ideology is fun.

Whoa, what? All right. Weird way to end that sentence. Robert Rodriguez hates white people, but he was raised by white bill. They gave him money and he dates white women. Do you know? Do you know what's really important? But he does not say Danny Trejo at all. No. Do you know why? Was that because Danny Trejo is fucking awesome.

Danny Trejo is the coolest. I mean, after all of his, you know, but he's the fucking coolest. He owns it. He did you know that he owns a fucking donut shop? I didn't know that. And it's amazing. It's amazing when I was in L.A. He made he had is incredible. There's great donuts.

There was some bacon on it is fucking fantastic. Danny Trejo's donuts trying to come up with a way to make a pun out of donut tray holes. I think you did it. I think I did, but I'm not satisfied with it. I think you got it. I think you nailed it. I know, but it didn't feel good. You could have just said it in a sentence that it would have been great. So anyway, I think Alex's complaints about Robert Rodriguez's border on a little

bit racist himself. No, I think the part I think the part about him taking issue with Robert Rodriguez dating white women is kind of like that being in his list of complaints, it strikes the ear is strange. It is just the fact that you brought up that he was raised by white people. Suggest that you think he's a race trader or that he owes them he owes the race something. Yeah, exactly. You were raised by us.

That means that you have to be one of us. We would have accepted you. So Alex is manifesting a lot of these sort of white protectionist ideas, whether it's insulting Robert Rodriguez or complaining that leftists are working for these these drug cartels as mules because they saw Machete or spouting these bullshit things about like crime statistics among immigrants. So you got that.

And so that after he gets a little bit of that out of his system, manifesting these white identity ideas, he gets right back to defending Steve King. Of course. So King puts a statement out. He says clearly, I didn't say that. I have prepared remarks about how Western civilization being proud of it is not white supremacy. It kind of is though. And that we shouldn't be proud of it.

You kind of should. The New York Times is a criminal group. They've done this to me and everyone else. They are a lie factory. They remove the word there out of the quote. Now they're removing it and cutting it even down more to one word and two words. Peter King said quotes around it. White supremacist.

Just quotes around it. White nationalist. So now they're even cutting it down to two words, not one of you to have the context of anything. That is pure evil. But the Republican leadership. They want to. Virtue signal.

Love the virtue signaling today. Dude, Steve King even voted for everybody to say Steve King shouldn't say that shit. Uh, well, the House of Representatives is the GOP House of Representatives is garbage because Steve King was like, yeah, I agree with you. We should definitely tell me not to say that shit. And in his speech around that, he made his response. And look, let's just be clear about this. The quote in the New York Times wasn't just one or two words and quotes.

And then just fabricating a quote around it. That's absolutely not the case. And even Steve King admits to that here in a second. Alex is just making that shit up. Yeah. So Steve King got up to the podium on the house floor and swore that he wasn't a racist and made sure everyone knows that there's no tape of him saying these things that the New York Times is claiming.

His case in general is very unconvincing. As he says, quote, so I'm going to tell you that the words are likely what I said. But I want to. But I want to read it to you the way I believe I said it. And that's this white supremacist, white nationalist, Western civilization. How did that language become offensive? First of all, he keeps saying, this is what I believe I said. But his track record on these things is pretty shitty.

And he's not offering anything that is in any way any more convincing than what the New York Times has offered. Secondly, just adding Western civilization in the middle of the quote in no way makes it better. He's still saying exactly the same thing as the original quote. I was going to say, explain to me how that changes things. It doesn't. He's just now making it clear that he believes that Western civilization is analogous to white nationalism and white supremacy.

Right? It's kind of his correction is kind of making it worse. You're saying the quiet part loud in the era of shitty apologies. This one is particularly wild. He even says, quote, it's 13 words, ironically, that caused this. If you if you aren't big into Nazi shit, why is 13 words ironic? In what sense is 13 words an ironic number? Unless it's because the topic at hand was white supremacy. And that's just one word shy of the 14.

In his apology, even on the house floor, he's signaling to white supremacists that he meant exactly what he said. And he isn't sorry about it at all. I think everybody would like white supremacist coding a lot more if it was called the Baker's dozen words instead of the 14 words. That's only 12, though. The Baker's dozen is 13. Yeah, but it's 14 words.

I know, but damn it. Do you need to make a Baker's like they could edit it down? A super ambitious Baker, all because you got to add one more in there. All I'm saying is that the 14 words could be edited down. You could get rid of one of those. I don't know if you could. You could rewrite it. I don't want to, you know, pitch ourselves as sort of editors for the

lying, editing white supremacist models. I hate white supremacists, but I love really well. Well written sentences. I love it more than anything else. So my point is like just to put a fine button on it that even in his apology, he's making clear that what he's saying is exactly what everyone's accusing him of saying and it could not be more clear. So in this next clip, Alex defends Steve

King by kind of using white supremacy to defend him, which is weird. And here's where they do the alchemy. Watch this closely. He didn't say white supremacy is a good thing and he endorses it. He said it's not the same as Western culture and being proud of it. But then they quote real things. He said, now that they've said this is white supremacy and now they start teaching you illegal aliens are breaking the law to get here.

They have double the crime rate of the average citizen, which they don't. Now you're oh, that's white supremacy, too. Which is how they do it. See how they do it. See how he does it. I that's exactly what he's doing. He's just exactly exactly. It's nonsense.

It's alchemy. It's alchemy. Here's how they do it. They take the words that he said. And then they print them and you go. Oh, see what they did. Tricky. Very sneaky.

These New York Times people. They spun, they spun lead into gold, Dan. Yeah, it's that's some wild stuff. I don't know. I don't know what else to say about that other than no, that's that's very dumb. I'm a little bit disappointed he didn't use the word transmutation. I feel like you got it. If you're going to bring up alchemy, yeah, you got to transmute.

I watched Full Metal Alchemist. Hey, we're we're a ways into this episode now and we haven't heard anything about the Chinese, which is weird. If we're in 2018, you better believe Alex is going to complain about the Chinese. We're in 2019. Oh, yeah, so right in June on your chest yet. So in this next clip, Alex finally gets around to complaining about something that the Chinese are not doing.

Because the Chinese are totally ethnocentric, completely maximum racist in the nation itself compared to anybody else on the planet. And they know that Western civilization threatens their hegemony and they're funding through Hollywood on record. All these movies where whites existing is bad. Oh, we're doing that again. Where there's race war in America and divisions between men and women and how you teach your kid how to be gay or be transgendered.

They execute you for that in China. But China owns six of the eight big production houses and they demand that as a talking point on record. It's on your record. It's not on like the real world. It's not real. It's not like real. It's on your record.

China doesn't own six of the eight movie houses and they're not trying to force ever want to be gay. Which ones? Which ones do they own? I mean, we went over this like a year and a half ago when he was starting this talking point. Never named. I want to know. Do they own Universal?

Miramax. Dan, is Disney still American? No, that's Chai-Kong to the top. Way up to the top. I knew it. So in case, you know, I think in our episode, one of the things that I'm really trying to do is highlight how Alex Jones defending Steve King is really him defending himself because the two of them are the same.

Yeah, they're very similar in terms of what they believe, what they stand for, in the same way that Steve King existed in the world of politics to be the guy that you can look less extreme next to. Alex Jones in the world of media existed in the exact same capacity. No. So it's interesting when Alex Jones actually does all my work for me and compares himself to Steve King. Representative Steve King,

a good, decent, honorable, Christian man, very wholesome. I've watched his speeches many times. I've read his writings just right in line with mine. Just good, wholesome Americana, just basic civics that have been taught up until the last 30 years. Oh, the last 30 years, you say? Oh, God, I love it. How much more like how?

Like civics, which we're taught up until they gave that. What happened? Oh, some people were given the right to vote that they didn't previously had. No, come on. I mean, like if you look at this, he probably meant a little further back than 30, but we know what he's talking about. Oh, we know what that's code for. Oh, you don't need to look at the like.

This is where it becomes almost absurd that we're doing this show. When Alex says shit like that on his show, it's like, I love Steve King. I think he's a great man. He's just like me. I've read his writings, wholesome. He's Christian. He's a good wholesome man. Just Americana, basic civics. All right. All right.

Right, Alex. You I don't know what the term is about rope and the amount necessary to hang yourself, but boy, did you give yourself the correct amount? Yeah, so it's just like it's wild to me that I even try to lay things out like information when we have shit like that. We just like do a five minute episode. We just play there like Alex and Steve King are the same dude.

He might as well. This has been a knowledge fight. He might as well have gone on to be like, and I don't like that Martin Luther King, Jr. has a street named after him. And you're like, oh, yeah, not just one. You got not just one. I got it. So then he goes on to give a classic white supremacist white nationalist

talking point, the baker's dozen words. No, no. You know, if whites were so bad, everyone wouldn't be trying to get into white Christian nations. OK, that's a very basic white nationalist talking point. The idea of like, how can we be so bad if everyone wants to be here, which kind of just serves to try to rewrite and undo all the history of how did those countries get to be so great?

Yeah, first of all, there's that. But even after we deal like just on an economic monetary level. But even before we talk about that, you have to unpack his language. And he's saying white Christian nations. Yeah. So it's just taken as red and assumed for Alex that America is a white Christian nation, which is kind of against. Look, if black people didn't want to be here so bad, why did they get on those

boats in the 1700s, Dan? Why did they do it, huh? They must have wanted to come here in shackles and chains. They must have wanted to be thrown off those boats whenever they were caught in a legal slave trade and die miserably drowning underneath the fucking seat. That must be because they love white Christian nations so much. Well, that's one part of that's one piece of it. And then even if you flash forward to the modern day, the exploiting of the world's

resources that we've been able to do over decades and decades and generations that have led us to the affluence and the amount of infrastructure we've been able to afford, the relative security to the rest of the world, the stability, that sort of thing is built on the backs of these other countries that we've pillaged and exploited over the years. So this idea that like if if we're so bad, why do people want to come here? It's because of the things that we've been able to afford based on adventurism. If we're so bad.

Why is it that all these people from all of the nations wherein we stole all of their resources want to come here? Why is it that when we strip behind all of South Africa and destroyed so many it wasn't just us, but yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, it was mostly white Christian countries. Exactly. There you go. Why is it that they would then want to come to where the resources we stole from them are? Right. And this is demonstrative of why this is a white nationalist talking

point and why Alex throwing this out so flippantly is just like, come on, man, you got to try better. And have you heard that Africans want to take land away from white people? What? Yeah. That's a different episode of Alex's show. But yeah, so, you know, here he just says some more whack shit. The globalist know the West has a guilt Christian ethos. That's good. It keeps us from killing each other and makes us nice.

But it's being overused against us now to have everybody stand down. And have this guilt where we're all taught to have this guilt. And then minorities are turned into foaming at the mouth racist against white people at right as they become the majority. It's truly sickening, truly sickening. I find that clip truly, truly sickening. So yeah, white people are being taught to be guilty and stand down while minorities are whipped into a frenzy just as they're taking power.

Gross, pretty gross. Yeah, I mean, you know, there's not much that you need to unpack there even. It's just an expression of these these really messed up racial ideas that Alex expresses. Yeah, I don't feel the need to say anything if you listen to that clip and you disagree with what you already know, I think we're done. Yeah, I mean, if you're good or if you hear that clip and you're like, Alex is on to something, there's no reason to talk. Yeah, goodbye.

Yeah, it's just like you can you can stop. You can stop listening. You're pretty far gone already. Yep. Not going to convince you. Goodbye. So also in much the same way in present day episodes, you don't you don't get through an episode without hearing about a complaint about the Chinese. Similarly, you don't get through an episode without hearing praise for someone else.

France is going to the highest level of martial law under EU dictatorship. But the good news is all over the world, nation states are pulling out, particularly Brazil, where they've got a guy even more well spoken than Trump and who comes off as even more authentic. We're going to be playing those clips next hour. Yes, he doesn't blow away by what's happening in Brazil. This is the this is the real McCoy right here. And just like George Washington, he was a colonel and all the rest of it.

He's the real McCoy. I mean, I don't disagree with most of the things he's saying, except I think they're bad, you know, like he's the real McCoy, yes, of like an authoritarian seizing power and and and shoring up his power. He's more well spoken than Trump. You bet he is. Almost everybody is. Yeah, I suppose I suppose his direct

comparison would be when Trump said you can grab him by the pussy and I moved on or like a bitch, he would prefer to hear Bolsonaro say, I don't want you to get raped because you're not attractive enough for me. Right. I wouldn't rape you. That's what he wished Trump would have said. He wished Trump would have said, no, I wouldn't have raped those girls because they weren't attractive enough for me. I guess it's locker room talk, Dan.

I guess it's kind of debatable, which is more better spoken. But yeah, so I mean, we already went over this last week about the idea that Alex is really showing his cards about really loving authoritarian dictator types. You can see it really manifesting in terms of his coverage of Bolsonaro. And it's it's pretty it's pretty fucked up, but not surprising. Yeah, not surprising. No, it was Alex's. Alex is really coming out in many ways in terms of his like this episode is a

really overt document of his white supremacist leanings, which again, isn't a surprise for us in the same way that last week, the authoritarian dictator bootlicking tendencies came out really to the forefront, which isn't surprising at all. Yeah, we're just seeing that in the present day. He's becoming that which he's always pretended not to be and pretending like it's not against everything he pretends to believe in. Yeah, it's fucked up.

And and it's just it's so important to remember that look, this is all white supremacist as fuck, but it is also misogynist as fuck. True. This is all he is choosing every, every person who has been fucking credibly and in incredibly supported Roy Moore. He didn't accuse him and and proven to have committed sexual assault. Sure, but some form or another. Yeah, I think those patterns of behavior sort of run together a little bit.

They should not necessarily a one to one comparison. And you're right. That is fair. I think that all of that is it's always hard to tell exactly what piece of his identity he's more defensive about, you know, like the whiteness or the masculinity. Yeah. And I think it's just on a day to day basis. Like if we went over Monday when he's complaining about Gillette and all that

stuff, I think that we would have much more of a critique based on his like horrible chauvinist nonsense. Whereas this episode has so much more race and his whiteness being defended. So that just is more prevalent in the conversation. But yeah, yeah, no, it's both just just just a really hammer at home. It's white men that he thinks that is that is a thing that is part of that white nationalist supremacy is absolutely values. Absolutely.

Steve King also thinks women should be subjugated. Sure. Absolutely. Alex thinks women are second class citizens. Absolutely. These guys are so he hangs out with Gavin McGinnis, you know, the proud boys. They have like their their their call to arms or whatever is that they believe that they won't apologize for their chauvinism and living in a world that men

created and stuff. So yeah, of course, I mean, that is yeah, that's that's part and parcel of all of these these dudes that we look at and even some women like Katie Hopkins. Yeah, no, I don't doubt it. So Alex's argument about immigration and that sort of thing seems to have sort of, you know, there is the idea that a sovereign nation can just not let people in that seems to be kind of the big piece of what he he doesn't want open borders.

He wants people to be able to decide. No, you do not come in. Sure. Unfortunately, because he's a shithead, he undercuts his entire argument because he wants to defend Michael Savage about something. Jesus, that's the real kicker. As you can have radical Islamic preachers preaching murder police blow things up and they're protected, but then Michael Savage can't fly into the U.K.

And there's been discussions of banning me and then people inside the U.K. They're talking about not letting them leave the country extra judicially or not let them travel around. I mean, this is real Nazi Germany type stuff. I mean, that's what Nazis did was give you an ID for folks that don't know that said where you could go. Yeah, where are your papers? Exactly. And that became, you know,

somewhat of a joke amongst Western nations post Second World War. But it seems like the lessons haven't been learned. So if I understand correctly, his argument is that nations should have sovereignty and they should be able to enforce their borders, which is why it's OK for America to keep out whatever immigrants we decide are bad. Yeah. But. Other nations should not be allowed to exercise their sovereignty by keeping out

people white that they think are bad. White people that they think are bad. Yeah. Yeah. I think we got that. So so so some nations, maybe, boy, one in particular, a white nation, if you will, should be allowed to keep non white people out.

Yeah. But a nation that is God damn it. Yeah. Does he not know how dumb he is? No, I don't know. I think he just knows that the audience is probably not prone to pick up on those sorts of things and they are just going to cheer lead their team. And their team is his team. But it's so fucking stupid. It is like you should have to say, like, good,

they're a sovereign nation, so we're not allowed to visit there. That is literally what you should have to say. It seems like it. They set their own immigration laws and they say, no, Michael Savage, by your by your principles, you need to support that. Yeah, I don't give a shit. It's just stupid. Who cares? So stupid.

So this is in an interview with the guy who may or may not have stopped recently, but was running Breitbart in Europe. I don't really care. He says a bunch of stupid nonsense. But at the end of the interview, Alex talks about how it's the best interview he's had in a really long time. Guess why? That's one of the best interviews we've had in years.

I mean, I already knew he was smart, but I'm they got smart because it's good like mine knows. He knows what I'm saying. He knows I'm making stuff up. This guy agrees with everything I'm saying and he knows I'm not full of shit. I love it. This guy just went along with everything I said. This interview was great because in no way was it challenging at all.

And I didn't have to even think. Nope, I could just say random shit. And that guy said not only that, but mine, then he said crazy shit. And I went along with it. It was like, yeah, that's great. No, no, we had a great agreement fest and it really nailed it home for me. Yep. This is such a bummer.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I'm bummed out. Yeah. It's it's it's like it's. It's almost too stupid. It's almost it's like we've we've dealt with so much stupid over the over the years. True. So much stupid.

But this is just spectacular. I agree. It is it is incredibly stupid. And there's like there's very little coherence on his show anymore. Like it's listening to it's incredibly frustrating because you can almost get a sense that he doesn't want to do it anymore. Yeah, there is there is a feeling of that and I can't blame him. But no, I agree with him. I don't want him to do it anymore either.

Yeah. So throughout this episode, I think we've seen a lot of real white nationalist white supremacist apologia from Alex. And the trend has been in the past also that he just loves dictators. And we see more of that earlier with him praising Bolsonaro. But in his next clip, I just feel like he can't make it more clear. He just loves a fucking dictator. We are watching.

The rebellions against the globalists very, very closely. Sure. In the Brazilian Emerald Isle in Italy, the Brazilian United Kingdom here in America, Australia. They are quietly for at least five years, taking their government back in many ways. The Irish and we watch that with a very, very pleased eye to say the least.

Do we? The battle is joined, ladies and gentlemen. So, I mean, you know, you've clearly said which side of that battle you're on. It's not a good side. That that evil laugh. You literally made an evil laugh. Yeah, I did.

He literally made an evil laugh in regards to a large group of dictators engaging in a battle against everyone who is non-white. Yeah, yeah, or people with like really dangerous, restrictionist policies and regressive. Also, don't bring my don't bring my Emerald Island into this. They're actually doing better. Like, I don't know what I think that was legalized abortion all across the board.

I think he just was really grasping for words. Yeah, I think he forgot. He forgot the countries clearly that he was going to mention. And so he said the to stretch it out and then Brazilian. And he had to come up with a noun. And I don't know why he came up with Emerald Island, which is weird. So after this, Alex has an interview with this guy, Dan Lyman, who runs news, not news wars, Europe Wars dot com, which is their European info wars.

OK, who gives a shit? That would be that would be a little bit on the nose. If we if we were writing a novel about info wars, one of our characters was named Dan Lyman Lyman. It would be two on the nose. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it would be two on the nose. Yeah, people would give us a like, hey, that was a great novel.

But that character's name was Dan Lyman. What are you guys doing? Yeah, we need a second pass on this transcript. Yeah, so he like Alex started news wars and Europe Wars because he had a keen sense that info wars was, you know, maybe people weren't trusting it so much. Oh, so you keep it on brand with news wars and Europe Wars, but maybe people who see the links won't know that it's info wars. Yeah, and be like, oh, what's this?

Maybe you can trick people again like you used to with present planet and info wars links brand. Exactly. So there's a little bit of that going on. Two of them talk about bullshit that's not important. But they do end up talking about how great Trump is. They talk about this fast food buffet that he gave the Clemson football team. And we just not. We're not going to talk about that.

OK, thank you. But it's just what none of them know it's only it's only brought up as a transition into them talking about why Trump eats so much fast food. And they get a little bit defensive about it. Guys, guys, we get it. You like him. You love the president. We don't need to do this.

You could not. You could. We could all just not give a shit about what he's very. It's so easy to not give a fuck about what he eats. I don't. I don't. Exactly. Right. Why do they I don't know if they do they're only bringing it up because they want to create this idea that Trump is under like an intense amount of danger. And so they rationalize that the reason that he eats fast food is so he doesn't

get poisoned by the globalists, which is interesting. And that is the best angle on that I have heard ever. And that it leads to Alex giving us a revelation about his own life vis-à-vis poisoning. And it has been said that Trump does eat a lot of fast food, especially now at this point, because of the low risk of having his food contaminated, which, you know, I don't think any of us can really accept. Let's be clear. That's why he does it. He will send trusted people out to different restaurants every time to get his food.

Manafort. Yes. I mean, for him, which tells me he's probably been I'm not making a big story, but a couple of times I'm pretty sure at public events, I got poisoned. And then once I got tested and it was arsenic. So it was like 20 years ago, they hit me with some. So yeah, there's a revelation, folks. Yeah, I've been in a war. They must be trying 20 years ago.

I was really tried to poison kings throughout history and every culture. But I'm sure the president, no one's trying to poison him. Right, Dan? No, certainly not. Certainly not. Yeah. Alex got poisoned with arsenic 20 years ago. That happened. Larger question.

Yeah. Why isn't anyone trying to poison the president? I don't know. Maybe some people are. There's so many of these things that just, you know, you never hear about it. Like a lot of the a lot of the attempts and threats against Obama when he was in office were publicized until after much after the fact, right? It's probably a good strategy not to make a lot of those things public. So I think that there's probably, you know, maybe there are some sort of like taste. Like again, a medieval food testers prior to there already is that in place in

the White House for that exists already. You don't need to then add on, OK, I'm going to send a bunch of people out for fast food in order to get around this. Like there's already there's already protocol in place. It's just trying to rationalize away why he eats a ton of fast food. God, if I was, I mean, it's it's insane. And then Alex, if I were ISIS, my first move would be to just like try and like not try and do it, but just say we're we've been trying to poison

the president, we keep doing it because I hope he doesn't freak him out. Yeah, exactly. Just like, oh, you love that fast food. Don't you, Mr. President? Guess what's coming next? Little do you know, we have people in all of your favorite restaurants. Exactly. Restaurants.

So there's, you know, this episode is a lot of just Steve King stuff, you know, it really is. And then towards the end of it, as it goes along, Alex gets more into the sort of defending tyrants and love and authoritarianism. Yeah. And it ends where we're going to end. There's still a little bit of show left in the Paul Joseph Watson comes in, but who gives a shit where we're going to end is this clip. And I don't understand how this isn't Alex just doing brainwashing type language that has I mean, this would fit in in 1984.

Trump equals fighters. Trump equals victory. Info wars equals victory. I don't under like that's insanely. Wow. That's insane. Like Trump equals victory. Trump double plus good. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what he's doing now.

The show has been been relegated to it. So it's just sad. It's sad and pathetic. That's the picture that we see in the present day. And I wish I could get more worked up about it because the things that he's talking about are fucking awful. Like the defense of white supremacy is awful. The apologizing for someone and making really dumb, bad excuses for someone

like Steve King is awful. And I'm just I'm not I'm not super interested in it. Past like looking at it, discussing it, whatever. Because it's what he is, it's what Alex is. Yeah. The act of it isn't really that impressive or interesting. It's just like, well, yep, should have seen that coming. Should have seen that coming from this dick. I know.

And at the same time, it's so important to continue to point it out because. No, that's why we don't that's why I don't stop. Of course. Of course. But I mean, that that is one of the issues is that you get this fatigue and this becomes normalized where your reaction to Alex being an out and out white supremacist and pretending he's not is just like is dismissive. It's just like, yeah, of course, that's what he's going to do when it's so hard to maintain the constant shift to the overton window of interesting.

Exactly. Yeah. That's not good. I'm bored by the fact that a goddamn what? Total 38 percent of this country still wants a white supremacist to be president. I'm bored by it. Yeah, it's a struggle. It's a struggle to maintain the sense of novelty even, you know, it's the Twitter outrage issue where it's like, yes,

we're all mad about it today and then the next day we're mad about something else. Yeah, yeah, to to an extent it's it's seeing things. It's a battle to see things through fresh eyes, like see the same thing anew. Yeah. Whenever you see it. And the present day of Alex Jones's show is a real chore with that. But hey, it's important and it's good. I'm glad we, you know, I'm glad to take a look at it and see, well, yep. Alex is living up to exactly all of the things that we would expect him to do.

Yeah. And well, it would be scarier, actually, I guess, to see growth. Because then I don't know what I don't know what that would pretend, you know, but well, just just imagine, like, put yourself in that headspace of like, this is the first time you've heard Alex Jones say this shit. No, it'd be crazy. It would be insane. Yeah, you'd be amazed that he could get away with it. I would start this podcast if I heard this.

If I wasn't already doing it, this would probably be enough to be like, huh? Somebody's got to do something about that. Where does this come from? Oh, now we know where it comes from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's infuriating. Yeah, it is. It is. Alex sucks.

So anyway, guys, this has been January 15th, 2019. This has been the present day. Yeah, fortunately. So we will see you back on Monday. Absolutely. And I appreciate everyone putting up with a weird schedule this week. But we'll get. Yeah. But yeah, apologies for no wacky Wednesday this week, but you got it.

You know, it's mental health days, man. Sure. Or exhaustion. You've really got to be self care. Yeah, self care. I'm working on it. So other than that, we have a website has nothing to do with self care. Oh, yeah, it's knowledgefight.com. I think it's actively against self care.

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Please do it. Yeah. So Dan, Dan Lyman, the lying man, the incredibly aptly named man. Now, granted, I don't know too much about him. I've never done a deep dive into his history. But so far of all the times I've heard him on the radio, he's never indicated that he's killed a guy. But I know one guy who technically probably has that in his past. Who's that?

That guy is Alex Jones. Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you.