Knowledge Fight - #262: April 14, 2009

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan look back to 2009 as Alex Jones inches closer to America's first Tax Day while the Tea Party is a thing. That doesn't factor into this episode all this much, since Alex has Big Jim Tucker on the show as a guest and he ends up saying a word on the show that is a huge problem.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes. I like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Oh, indeed. We are Dan Jordan Dan Jordan. What was the last time you got stuck in traffic? Uh, yesterday driving around with you I mean, I haven't driven a car since I moved to Chicago, right? That's what I'm saying. I did once Dan Dries was trying to teach me to drive during this short period where I thought I was going to buy an RV So I realized I needed to get a driver's license

Of course And so he was teaching me to drive and uh He didn't need to I remember how to drive But I was really scared about it because at that point it'd been like six seven years since I'd driven I thought I'd be like all over the road. Right. That was fine. Yeah, but no traffic that time But yeah in your car yesterday like what what did when you before you moved to Chicago used to drive around, right? Yeah, yeah, what happened in Missouri while you were driving hit a lot of curbs hit a lot of curbs No, not really. Were you a confident driver?

No, but you don't need to be all that confident in Columbia, Missouri There it's pretty easy going for the most part. You don't need to be all that sober in Columbia. No, you do. Oh, yeah They have pretty serious like you don't have to be sober in Chicago. Right every every comic I've ever known has like driven drunk all over the place and I'm very uncomfortable don't reveal our secrets It's not a secret. It's almost impossible to get a DUI in Chicago. It is really tough. It's really tough if you're white Um, but in Columbia, they take that a little more seriously I never drove drunk after I when I was like 19 I got uh, I got had not a DUI it ended up getting pled down to the civic violation

Yeah, or whatever, but I was so scared in the moment when it happened So I was just like, oh my god. This is it was terrifying. Yeah losing control of a car Of course, thankfully no one got hurt or anything like that But like I was so scared of that that from 19 on I never got in a car driving with any alcohol in me Even one beer. Really? Yeah. Wow. Very very like Terrified yeah from that experience. So anyway, uh, I don't know. I haven't been in traffic a long time Good let's have fun stories. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're in traffic. Nope. Uh, so it's just a gateway into

Communication. Sure. There's a podcast where I don't know much about traffic, but I know a lot about Alex Jones That's true. And I know a lot about traffic and I don't know anything about Alex Jones except what you tell me We are like jack sprat and his wife the bone and the fat and the lick in the plate clean Anyway, uh, we are not like jack sprat and his wife today We got a very interesting show, uh, where we will be back in 2009 and I have some thoughts about that I want to discuss them on the other side of this But first I have some thoughts that are very positive about some of our new donors I'd like to give them a shout out first commons. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk

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Yeah, and also we got some other people posting that they have redirected websites Fantastic to absolutely. I believe that info wars dot wiki now redirects to our wiki page. She the actual wiki I believe so so that's fun um Look, uh, so today what we're doing is we're going back to 2009 and I mentioned that a lot of the main mysteries are kind of They're not that mysterious to us right right about 2009 We have the tea party sort of figured out in terms of the uh oath keepers angle

We have a little glimmering of soros talk Um, and you know, so those main things that were really driving my curiosities Um, you know, aren't that aren't that spectacular to me anymore? Yeah. Yeah, but I realized our last episode ended With coverage of april 13th 2009 and two days later is tax day So we can't leave 2009 without getting to the main day of the tea party Absolutely since at that point they hadn't lost the thread yet. It was still an anti-tax movement right right whatever So like you got to get to at least tax day And so I decided we're gonna stick in 2009 at least for a little bit and I was like, hey

You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get the 14th and the 15th knocked out now We're gonna find out what happened Unfortunately on this episode. I think the most shocking thing I've ever heard on info wars happens and I love taxes. No taxation without representation. That would have been crazy Just from a like a narrative standpoint that would have been nuts But what like I can't even begin to talk about how fucked up the thing that happens on this episode is like it There are not many times that i'm listening to these episodes and like my response to something I hear is Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and then I have to pause the wall to wall and words

wall to wall I have to pause the episode and sit there like for a couple minutes like What what's happening and then listen back to the clip like five times to make sure I heard it correctly That that sort of thing So I don't want to oversell this but we'll get to that as we get to it I started drinking adrenochrome and uh, I gotta be honest. It's pretty good. It's pretty great. It's pretty great So we're going over just the 14th today. We'll have to let tax day wait because this really threw a wrench into my uh My process but we're gonna start here on the 14th

Alex is complaining about taxes and the idea that there are more new taxes And then he discusses a way you can fight back against those taxes And then they're gonna squeeze you every state's passing new taxes new york 80-something new taxes And they're gonna take your property take your home squeeze you swat team you they're gonna send the police And anybody that fights back with the second amendment's gonna be called a terrorist Yeah, and that's what America ish agreed 100% that phrasing is Agreed 100% fight back with the second amendment And anybody who shoots a tax collector is all of a sudden a terrorist. Isn't that kind of what he's saying?

It is exactly what he's saying. You can't say fights back with guns So you paraphrase and say fights back with the second amendment. That's what he's he's saying fight back with guns against taxes Yeah, I was gonna say how can you fight ah ha ha if you do not recall the second amendment provides for no taxes It relieves the burdens of taxation Does that work? Woof. So that's where we start. That's crazy. But Alex is like if you if you murder an irs agent with a gun Then they're gonna be all in a tizzy Call you a murdering terrorist. We start we start it opens with one

The government is going to send the fbi and the cops to your house And they're gonna squeeze you much like alex is going to do as a squid Against Joe rogan, of course for your uh, $4,000 in taxes that you have to pay And uh, if you kill them All the sudden people are gonna say you're a bad dude And especially because it would be necessarily politically motivated. You know, so it would be yeah would be terrorism Anyway, um, alex takes calls early on this episode. I'm not sure why I think he's he's sort of feeling the idea of Getting the temperature of america. Uh, and this caller calls in and he starts talking about how he was listening to my main man

Neil Borts Neil Borts is another conservative radio guy. Sure. He's the proponent main one of the main proponents of the flat tax um, and also a fairly entertaining broadcaster, but He doesn't have alex jones chops I would call the flat tax more like a Give all of the money to the rich Tax, I think that's what I would call it. That's one way to look at it Yeah, so anyway, this guy was listening to neil borts and apparently borts is starting to cover some of these like mayac report things

That alex has been talking about and so this caller wants to ask alex about like What does he think about that and he brings up the way borts is covering it and wants alex's response Oh, well, we'll go ahead sir um Well, anyways, he turned everything to a liberal issue. Why is there no left wing on the document? Why is it just right wing? And everything like that now that you know And everything here locally in that unnatural and everything they're talking about all the big tea parties and stuff like that and Why doesn't left having thing like that? Why aren't they coming up against this stuff about the IRS and stuff like that?

well because the So-called left or all big banker foundation owned and run all these big websites literally attacking me or ford foundation Rockefeller foundation Funded in fact. I'm going to cover that some later in the hour Troubling it's true. So they're there no wanting more taxes. See the average liberal on the street Thinks that oh, it's lovey-dovey and social welfare that and that it's helping the poor to have big government They don't understand big government is for the big corporations through their tax refoundations to steal the working people's money And so the left loves the taxes

That's why they list the tea parties is basically terrorist In a lot of these documents Is because uh the her the hereditary enemy Of the globalist is paleo conservatives Slash classical liberals and the thomas geverson hill. Thanks for the call So the underlying question that he seems to be asking the caller like why don't they have any of these Mayak reports about liberals or people on the left. Why why isn't that? Why is it only us right wing people who are being pointed out for their extremism?

And there's a reason for this That's because alex and his guests like to pretend that all government is ever concerned about his right wing extremism And they just the government just turns a complete blind eye to any terrorism or extremism on the left This perception is created and reinforced by the fact that people like alex or in this caller's case neil portse Only cover stuff like this when they need to get really defensive about reports about right wing extremism So they can you know just basically prop up their own narrative of systemic oppression It should come as no surprise that the this version of reality that the propagandists here present is not accurate in any way In april 2001 dr. Carl seger

Prepared a report for the u.s. Department of Energy entitled left wing extremism the current threat This report in many ways is pretty similar to the mayak report saying things like quote a lot of terrorists on the left are Communists, which may be accurate. I'm not sure but in no way implies that this report is saying that you are a terrorist If you're a communist a lot of left-wing terrorists probably do have communist leanings sure that doesn't mean that they're saying Communists are terrorists anything like that. It's very similar to the mayak report in many ways, but a little bit more exhaustive um I wonder why the report explains that quote the threat to the united states government from leftist extremists has decreased considerably in the past decade

But it is not disappeared It goes on to say that quote the challenge to law enforcement and security is not to interfere with the rights of individuals to express Their beliefs while also providing a means for the early identification of extremists who are planning criminal actions Which is the underlying point of all the quote unquote patriot demonizing documents that alex yells about all the time It's the same thing One of the things i found particularly interesting about this particular report though Was that it pulled information from a study conducted by brent smith Published in the state university of new york press called terrorism in america in the study smith looked at

378 members of identified terrorist groups and compared the demographics of those in right wing groups and left wing ones He found that members of right wing groups were 97 male compared to 73 percent in left wing groups Members of right wing groups were 97 white compared to 29 in left wing groups 36 of the members of right wing groups were over the age of 40 as opposed to 18 percent over the age of 40 in left wing groups Um 12 of the members of right wing groups had college degrees compared to 54 percent of left wing group members None of that really proves anything definitive But the numbers are different enough to be interesting. Yeah, uh from that. I think what you're saying is that women earn only

24 terrors for every 76 terrorists there are I think there is a gender discrepancy I think I think this is an issue. I think this is an issue. Yeah, that's a problem. You are a terrorist jw So also, uh in october 2014 the department Of homeland security released a report titled patterns of terrorism in the united states 1970 to 2013 And it's very clear that uh, you know from the data it presents Mostly what you find is that there was a shit ton of left wing terrorism in the 70s And that shifts hard towards right wing terrorism from that point onward in the 80s and 90s

anti-abortion activists the reports words not mine Were the number one category of terrorists in the united states Comprising 16 percent of attacks in the 80s and 26 percent in the 90s Throughout that entire time the dhs does make note that groups like the animal liberation front and earth liberation front were very active And committing a bunch of terrorist acts But in the 24 years that the alf was active at that point Their attacks had killed no one and the same is true of the earth liberation front Over that same time period you saw a rise in incidents

Involving right-wing groups like the arian republican army the arian liberation front and the world church of the creator At the same time the numbers of left-wing incidents were decreasing Do you see these patterns very clearly the point is that the government and the researchers in these organizations? They don't ignore left-wing terrorism They deal with the reality and that reality is that there's plenty of left-wing terrorism to discuss And simultaneously there's even more right-wing terrorism to discuss if anyone's ignoring anything It's alex and his right-wing ilk ignoring the fact that they do cover all this stuff In order to maintain the illusion that the out-of-control government is targeting conservatives in preparation to put them in camps

Or some shit like that. That's all this is all bullshit. There's plenty of reports You can find about left-wing terrorism There's also plenty of reports you can find about the fbi planting agents with inside Inside left-wing groups in order to incite them to violence in order to discredit them That is a very real example that happens regularly including recently in the How how many different places in charlotte'sville? They had fbi agents in there in so many different places in the fucking black panthers in the 60s and 70s The main reason that they killed fucking fred hampton was because there was an informant inside of the black panthers

Why was there an informant because the fbi was fucking targeting them specifically and ignoring right-wing terrorist groups? There's a there's a line between informant and provocateur Absolutely because in the same way that I understand why there would be an informant at like alohim city, you know Yeah In the 90s I do understand why there would be an informant in the black panthers too. I get it. Yeah, but no for sure But that's very different the the reality of the situations. Yeah, it's quite different now charlotte'sville is a There's the the best example of the fbi

Literally planting agents inside the protesters in order to incite them to violence. Yeah in order to discredit them I recall some of that stuff coming out of ferguson too. It was absolutely coming out of ferguson But uh, you know be that as it may, you know, we got uh, we got just bogus nonsense coming up here We got alex saying use the second amendment to fight taxes and then just crazy bullshit about how the left is Free to roam and no one targets them or anything like that I assume alex doesn't get the irony of him saying that you should kill tax collectors and Also saying that right wing terrorist is almost non-existent. I assure you he doesn't he doesn't get that irony

I assure you or if he does he's very cagey about not Not revealing that he does. Okay. So in this next clip he gets to a narrative against one president barack obama That I think first of all the first part of it is pretty distasteful And i'm not thrilled with the second part is awesome And it's another one of these scandals that I completely forgot it's tan suit level. Okay. Oh boy. I forgot about this one I mean, how can anybody Believe anything barack obama says everything is alive

He's 6.5 percent african 6.5 percent So it's a lie that he's black He didn't get a rescue dog. Like he said he was and that's now in the news. That's a lie. So he didn't get a rescue dog That's right. That is right. I remember that. I completely forgot people were mad about that. Oh my god. Oh my god. No, I'm For real. He was just a black president I am somebody who is strongly in favor of rescuing pets. Absolutely

And I also think that when celebrities get boutique pets and stuff like that It kind of does send a bad message. So I understand that there's some very soft Criticisms to make of the president not getting a rescue dog, but he didn't lie about it So in 2009 president obama adopted bow america's first dog bow was a portuguese water that was america's first dog only you'd never had dogs before socks was the first cat And i'm grateful that uh bill clinton broccats. Yeah, that's wonderful It's always uh, it's always a democrat president who reintroduces animals into the wild. Yeah

My assessment of bow is is pretty cute all things considered In a scandal that we all still remember as being a stain on the presidency Barack obama did not adopt a rescue dog after saying that he absolutely 100% would only accept a rescue dog Except that isn't true at all in a press conference obama said quote We have two criteria that have to be reconciled. One is that melia is allergic So it has to be hypoallergenic. There are a number of breeds that are hyper hypoallergenic On the other hand our preference would be to get a shelter dog But obviously a lot of shelter dogs are muts like me

So so whether we're going to be able to balance those two things I think is a pressing issue on the obama household So actually in that quote he deals with alex's other criticism. Yeah, which is oh boy. Yeah, oh boy Uh, he didn't say that he was going to get a shelter dog or a rescue dog Just that he would prefer to but the requirements they were working with might make it hard By april they'd narrowed down the dog hunt and the family began searching at shelters for a dog that met their needs Ultimately, they didn't find that dog But one of the litter mates of the dog owned by senator ted kennedy did fit their exact needs

So he bought it for them as a gift Though bow was bought from a breeder the dog is also what's known as a second chance pet Meaning that its first owner had returned it to the breeder Which is something that can carry a little bit of a stigma and draw in dog breeding circles obama never claimed uh that this made it a rescue dog, but guess who did Caesar fucking malon did The dog whisperer He said it was a rescue dog. Hey, hey even even wane parcell the chief executive of the humane society called bow a quote

quasi rescue dog After the obamas were criticized for their decision to a level that seems disproportionate They made a donation to the humane society as a gesture Long story short, there's no scandal here and he didn't lie about it. I hate people. I hate him. I hate him I hate him. I hate him. Fuck you. It's crazy. Fuck all of you. Fuck anybody who talked about this The fucking current president started the goddamn office Breaking the emoluments clause. He didn't uh, he should already be gone, but he didn't say he was going to get a rescue dog Literally

Constitutionally, he is not allowed to be president now now Literally he's on the up according to the constitution. He's on the up and up on pets So i'm okay with it. Oh my god. Oh my god and I don't know if you know this alex, but uh black isn't uh A percentage in america black is the color of your skin It doesn't matter if you're one percent black, but your skin is all the way black people are going to treat you Racistly right that is the reality of the situation

Yeah, there's different conversations and you can intentionally blend them if you you know Want to do what alex is doing and I just never like to hear anybody give like racial litmus tests And stuff like that because I they never come out from a good place They never come from a place of like good faith or like saying something positive. It's always to attack And it's always exclusionary and it sucks. I mean it just sucks to hear alex say things like that There are there are so many stories of uh and and probably still going on right now actually almost certainly still going on right now Where somebody of mixed race is both excluded from the uh, their skin color based uh community and also excluded from the other side of their

Heritage simply because of their skin color like that is something that is a massive issue And uh, no, but hey, it's all about percentage right never mind So, uh alex now goes to a guest. He's got a guest and we met this guy in endgame And we caught a little glimpse of him in the obama deception and he's old and a big douche We're gonna get jim tucker God written for some of the largest syndicated columns and newspapers been a newspaper work for almost 50 years Rides for american free press. He is the original guy Who 30 plus years ago began writing about the bilgerberg group

So I have more to say about him than we necessarily covered in the uh, obama deception stuff or in the endgame stuff And it's good for a refresher About this because he works for american free press Yeah, and you you know you hear a name like american free press All those things are things that alex purports love man. How can you be against something that's american that's free? Or is the press that's great All those words are awesome. Yeah, but actually i think alex hates all of those words possibly Also, the american free press is one of those things that's named in a way to intentionally trick people into thinking stuff

Like what I was just saying. Oh, do you mean like americans for prosperity? You bet when in reality? It's a completely fucked up outlet and anyone associated with it deserves a fair amount of suspicion The american free press was set up by willis carto a noted anti-semite and white supremacist in 2001 after his previous publication The spotlight was forced into bankruptcy. They were sued by the institute for historical review Which is a legit outright holocaust denialist publication, which was also founded by willis carto Who had by that time fallen out of their good graces? So he co-found this organization and by this point in time he had uh, he was he was not doing great So it's really called americans

American free press minorities into Small bits. Yeah. Yeah, so in 1996 the institute for historical review successfully sued willis carto for just Just short of 6.5 million dollars because he embezzled 7.5 million dollars That had been left to the ihr in the will of gene edison ferrell the grand niece of thomas edison Who was herself a really big anti-semite? I have bad news also about thomas edison Not a cool guy. Oh Hired a guy back in the day and then fired him the next day because he found out he was jewish

Ah, man, also thomas edison wrote a letter in 1914 blaming the jews for starting world war one Oh, not just did he steal all those patents, but he's also an anti-semite. I'm starting to think he's a bad guy Yeah, it turns out he wasn't great and his grand niece, uh, uh gave 7.5 million dollars wasn't wasn't tesla jewish I don't know actually i could never i never i think he was hungarian, but i don't know if he was jewish I never really knew to check Because I didn't think it mattered, but apparently I was way wrong So willis didn't take his uh his ouster from ihr very well and at one point he staged an occupation of their headquarters to try And remain in control. Ah, that sounds smart. It didn't go well

Embezzled several million dollars and then occupy the business that is suing you perfectly correct I'm not actually sure if that occupation was before the lawsuit or after but it doesn't really matter in my eyes The 2001 case that bankrupted him appears to be a continuation of this case from 1996 But also alleged that willis carto diverted funds from the ihr's parent company to himself We uh after he lost this case he had to declare bankruptcy and the spotlight uh ended up having to fold Uh, but because willis carto is a man dedicated to both the grift and to anti-semitism He immediately started up american free press and most of the people involved in the spotlight just started working there Is kind of just a rebranding. You know, it's it's good that he knew to stay in his lane though

You know, like he's a guy who knows what he does. He accepts it Uh, also, I'm wrong about tesla. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you checked. Yeah, uh, the adl has called uh, Carto quote one of the most influential american anti-semitism Semetic propagandists of the past 50 years, which makes sense considering that he explicitly set up his publications Both the spotlight and american free press as instruments to turn the public sentiment Against and as the adl puts it quote mobilize opinion against the jewish population Right, but how are there beat writers? Like did they have a sport one of them was fucking jim tuckers? Right, but I mean like how did they cover like when was this they didn't have a sport section

They didn't have a sport section. No, it wasn't why would anybody was an anti-semitic political jack rag? That's what it was with carto. There's no gray area He did what he did to swindle money from organizations and to attack the jews who he saw as the biggest threat to the world He literally said quote if satan himself with all of his superhuman genius and diabolical ingenuity at his command Had tried to create a permanent disintegration and force for the destruction of the nations He could have done no better than to invent the jews Huh just blunt that is harsh It's harsh criticism in an interesting connection to alex's intellectual heroes

Willis carto was actively involved in the george wallace 1968 presidential campaign I don't know why he would be involved in that campaign running. He ran the youth for george wallace group in that campaign Uh, do you mean hitler youth when wallace? Uh, uh, his campaign failed Carto continued on with the group and renamed it the national youth alliance The national youth alliance was a hotbed of neo nazis and white supremacists with many of their leading figures being members Of a pseudo secret society called the francis parker yaki society The group was named after this guy yaki an american nazi who collaborated with the american bund during world war two And worked tirelessly to create a resurgence and fascism

Particularly after hitler was defeated. So literally the hitler youth. Yep In 1960 while he was in prison after being caught with falsified passports This, uh, yaki guy he was visited by you guessed it willis carto Who was a near obsessive about his writings and philosophy? It probably wasn't related, but yaki killed himself by ingesting cyanide a week later. Good for him Uh, in his time with the new youth, uh, that's the first thing he's done that I approve of In his time with the national youth alliance carto recruited a promising Promising youngster by the name of william luther pierce into the group

Interestingly pierce would go on to write the turner diaries Which is largely thought of as the white supremacist militia bible Pierce took over the national youth alliance and rebranded it as the national alliance Which is uh, one of the most virulent white nationalist organizations in public operation during the 90s and early 2000s It's still in existence now, but with a slightly Fairly diminished capacity, but they were a really fucked up important group of the neo nazi white supremacist times during that reemergence of militia shit in the 90s So and it all traces back to willis carto and the uh, the george wallis campaign

God damn these people. Mm-hmm. Where do they fucking come from in another interesting parallel? Carto was one of the people who helped launch the populist party best known for uh, probably best known for fielding David duke as their candidate for president in 1988 Whereas the populist party was into some of the stuff that the more mainline conservatives were at the time they were notable for their stances about uh repealing the federal income tax abolishing the federal reserve And cracking down super hard on immigration all things that alex yells about all the time And alex was like 13 14 when they were coming up uh as a political entity Right around what alex claims that he had his clarity moment reading none dare call it conspiracy written by gary allen

Who worked for the wallis campaign right alongside willis carto? Oh, and also carto is a huge fan of ron paul And you know, this is like David duke. David duke loved ron paul too This is like the avengers of white supremacy is what we're talking about right here They they came together. There was one great fight scene where everybody got their little uh Viewpoint on that and then at the end of it it turned into a movie that was shit It could be my point here is that there's a lot of really bad connections that you can see really easily Both literal connections between people and ideological connections

But chiefly here the point is that willis carto is a flagrant anti-semite a nazi sympathizer or white supremacist And his publications were set up Literally inexplicitly to further those worldviews And jim tucker was the editor of the spotlight and he came along to american free press after carto declared bankruptcy in 2001 jim tucker is complicit He knew a kind of outlet he was working for and here he is Presented as some kind of an expert instead of an anti-semite Guesting on alex jones' show. Well, there is one thing that he really was an expert in the builder group

No, uh curling. He really liked curling. I told you there's no sports page I really want there to be a sports page. There's so many other like I wanted to handle only white like like racquetball like only White mostly sports. There's so much other stuff. I'd really like to get into but i'm not really sure how much all of it is super related like The pat Buchanan stuff like the the spotlight and uh Cardo were really big at trying to push Buchanan and so like there's some of those connections but like one of the problems is we don't have Audio of alex from times that those would be relevant. Yeah. Yeah mid 90s and stuff like that if we had those tapes

I almost guarantee he was a Buchanan fan. Yeah, I have no idea. I can't back that up wild speculation but anyway, my point is that jim tucker sucks and uh, this is the only charming moment They had just come back from a commercial break And alex notices that jim tucker's speech is a little bit labored Couple weeks ago or so ago jim you're out of breath. Did you run outside and smoke a cigarette? No, I spoke two cigarettes Hey, hey stay five more minutes with us in the next hour because I want to go

I mean, let's have some levity. Let's have some levity up in here Do you smoke a cigarette? That's pretty good. Excuse me, sir. I'm too fucking cool. Yeah, that's Jesus. That's pretty good like in terms of like it was quick Yeah, a quick response. Not bad pretty witty. Yep. Now. Unfortunately he starts talking about how cigarettes are overpriced Um, and you might get you move to chicago now, man You might get your first indication that this interview isn't going to go well and until The turkeys in congress increased cigarette

Uh taxes by 62 cents a pack jerking food off the tables of starving Negro children and doing so uh They cost a dollar seventy cents a carton or a dollar seventy cents each 17 dollars a carton that came out of his mouth really easy So apparently cigarette taxes so so he's mad about cigarette taxes on behalf of the black Youth. Yes. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha, dad. I don't want to buy it I don't want to break this down too much, but that was just that was the first moment. We're like, oh

Oh boy, that uh, that didn't seem good. I buy it So in this next clip, alex is jim's still there, but he's uh talking about how he hasn't plugged And he wants to plug the people should go get the obama deception Um, and the reason that he's plugging is because he knows that there's going to be Tons and tons of tea parties around the country the next day, of course, and they're a good marketing opportunity for him I just want to salute And thank everyone That has gotten the obama deception and I want to encourage those of you that haven't

To please get it at info wars.com on the secure online video and bookstore Shopping card and make all the copies your heart wants to I mean as many as you can make I know a lot of universities and other groups Of of students are going out and everywhere. Obama goes to speak They're giving out thousands of these and the tea parties that the neocons are trying to co-opt Uh, patriots true patriots

Are going out to these events and and you know really waking up the people that are the tea parties For the full scope of the new world order. So again info wars.com So you can see that it's basically what we've seen all along They had the the dumb dumb conservative the bad conservatives trying to co-opt this tea party But we're the good ones. We're the real ones the real patriots And we're the way we radicalize them is by you guys getting me a ton more fans Yep, get me a ton more fucking fans and then we will swing this thing And for him that like for normal businesses you'd be like this is a bad business strategy telling people to copy your stuff

But in reality for him It's a brilliant business strategy because everybody that's buying his cd is going to give it to somebody who does not have it And would never buy it. It's it's the definition of like market saturation into places You can't get into the corners of Of populations and people who probably will never be exposed to your stuff And so you take a little bit of a bath. You don't actually know you don't because everybody making the copies is the one who's paying for the extra Everybody everybody who would buy it is buying it. Yeah, they're also giving it away Even people who are downloading it or whatever watching it on youtube if they are fans

They're buying it also. Yeah, you know, so yeah, yeah, absolutely Yeah, you you have tapped your potential. You only stand to gain from piracy. Exactly. Yeah, that is that is definitely true Yeah, so Jim Tucker's there and they're talking about Bilderberg and I mean to his credit Bilderberg is like a month away and he knows where it is He he does get the place right. It's in Greece about 14 miles away from Athens and the dates he gets those right Yeah, but to me that doesn't seem like that big a deal Because he's still super vague about what the It's going to be about. He's just saying that they're going to celebrate the financial crisis

Oh, that doesn't seem like that doesn't seem right. Doesn't seem accurate. It sounds fun You go to Athens. You celebrate the financial crisis, you know The best place to celebrate the financial crisis the place hit hardest by now I don't know what like I don't pretend to know where he got the information from or even if it was publicly known Wider than I understand in in april 2009. Yeah, it's possible. I don't know the idea of the place and dates That doesn't that doesn't impress me that much the gym has that because everything else is off and and and nonsensical But so would you say that don't impress you much? All right. I was trying to work a shania twain reference in there Yeah, um, so in this next clip

We find out something that's very big and that is that alex has a new sponsor And this is a new sponsor because I've used this project of this product I believe in nano silver the smaller the particle the better And silver's one of the oldest antibiotics. There's a lot of great silver products out there But I've tested this one out with both roads Uh with other things like that, you know what 15 percent of kids have that thing where they get a few warts on them Uh, you know, my son had that Put silver on it knocked it right out even the doctor office like a bar of silver

so Again, ladies and gentlemen, uh new silver solution silver is one of the oldest natural antibiotics go to Super silver supernatural silver dot com prepare. So that's it supernatural silver is the name of the business Right. All right homeopathy is the name of the business alex has a new sponsor. Uh, this is outfit. Uh called supernatural silver From everything I can tell this is the first instance of alex selling silver based health product Which is something he'd continue to do for years. So that's fun colloidal silver Interestingly, I can't prove that supernatural silver is an actual legit company or at least not You should really be able to prove something as a company. Well, I can't

And I couldn't based on that name Right their website lists a p.o. Box in huntsville, utah is their address Which leads you to believe that they would be filed as a business with the state of utah But if you search the utah business registration website, there is no company called supernatural silver on file Even included businesses who filings have expired It would take uh, it could be that the company is incorporated in a different state But it's not If you search the site in the wayback machine, uh, they're supernatural silver dot com

You can find their terms of service page from like 2010 2011 Uh, and uh, it clearly says that they're operated out of the state of utah It's all we are a scam dot com. It's all very weird. Nothing makes sense about it Their customer facing elements don't make it seem like it's that big of a company For instance, I found their twitter and they only have 70 followers and they haven't tweeted since august 2018 Are they okay? Their website is like It's just a bunch of products like a list of products you can buy that takes you to a checkout screen It's super minimal. So at that point

Going this far through it. I was like, well, I don't know I've been able to establish that based on their terms of service page from You can get on the wayback machine. They are calling themselves supernatural silver That's the business name as described there. That isn't in the utah dot gov registry of business names But there's one place left to look for info They claim that supernatural silver is copyright and they own the copyright to it So if that's the case, then there's a file in the government patents and copyright office So I ran a search on that and found found them and this is where things get a little bit interesting

For one the copyright is lapsed now. So it's wide open if you have a silver business Second the actual name of their business is silver panacea llc They don't have a doing business as name on file for supernatural silver Which is what they're presenting as the business's name. So that's a little bit dicey I'm not sure if that's illegal in utah as it is in texas when we looked into the old fortified supply stuff I don't know about utah's laws. So i'm going to leave that one up in the air However, because we can now find the business information about the company because we have the business's name We can find out more about it like the fact that though they filed the llc paperwork on march 11th

2009 they claim in their copyright application that the first time they did business was april 9th 2009 a mere five days before the episode that we're listening to which is nuts That is very suspicious rest of media blitz right there. That is very weird getting their name out. Come on The business on on info wars the business tracking site buzz file sites an estimate that silver panacea brings in about 73 000 annually So my suspicion that it's not that large of a company seems pretty accurate Manta another business information tracking site estimates the same annual revenue If these estimates are accurate that you have a miniscule business that hasn't even been operating a week Somehow being able to afford advertising on alex jones' show when his rates should have been at least competitive at that time

Which seems legitimately impossible to me none of this makes sense Well, what you got to understand is that it's really just one dude Uh, who had uh, uh, I apologize. I should have said person. You're right Uh, I just assume it's a dude because they're advertising on info wars. You know, uh, so it's just one woman who was Gifted a bunch of silver like a lot of silver just want to chop it down a lot of civil bars silver bars So she doesn't really have any overhead other than mailing shit So she probably makes a good 60 grand a year and if she needs more money, she just sells some of the silver As a bar I'm very suspicious of the sponsorship, but until I can learn more. Uh, I have to leave it at that

It's a suspicion It's entirely possible that the person who started this business was independently wealthy took a huge gamble with the Sponsorship on alex's show hoping for a big return I'm gonna keep my eyes on this one and let you know what comes up And if it turns out that it is just some rich person in utah making a really dumb financial investment I'm ready to accept that possibility. Yeah, but something seems like a good place to do that the although and on the other hand the uh, uh, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints, uh, the third book, um Does explicitly say that if you are do, uh, you know, if you are doing business in a different name

You do have to register that isn't that book. Yeah, that is really in there something is up there I don't know what it is. I'm interested and I'm gonna keep looking into it. See what I can find but for now It's either just someone who's like throwing money away. Yeah, or alex's rates might be nothing You know, he might be you might it could be an indication that some business that literally just started And it hasn't I don't think that they've ever been all that huge Right. I mean like if they're making they're making 73 thousand dollars a year now still in operation. Yeah You know, what were they ever making? What were their tweets like? What would you tweet if you were a health article that has 70? Oh like health?

Got you. Got you. That that was most of it. They're sharing lies in order to spread like by silver. Yeah, got you So, um, jordan at this point, we're gonna get to the clip that almost That destroyed you. Um, this is a mic down clip and you might need to hear it twice to believe what you hear But at this point jim talker proves that he works for willis carto and one of the strongest patriots of the supreme court is uh, Clarence thomas who although he has himself enigmas hated by uh, liberals for opposing Affirmative action there you've amiss them for Racial

preferences All right Well, well jim talker, we appreciate you coming on the show. We appreciate your close to 50 something years covering news I am convinced I listen to that a ton of times I'm sure that's a hard r and word. I am convinced of that You Hear the r in there

There's no way it was just what he said earlier about the cigarette taxes That came out of his mouth so fucking easy. He knows he's on the radio He just called clarence thomas the n word How crazy is that they didn't have an audio delay back then I guess You didn't have five second delay you didn't have a five second delay You didn't have anybody on the board going n word. No No, see that's a giant fucking red button That's a damning indictment of info wars because they didn't even see fit to drop that they were like, oh

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great n word. I I'm not gonna play it again, but you guys can go back and listen if you want to if you want to try and you know Prove to yourself that that is a hard r and word Because it is here's a larger issue. Uh, it doesn't matter either way That is a very racist thing to say. Oh, yeah, that's important. That's important to you. I missed the forest for the trees Oh, he didn't give the hard r. Oh, he was trying to no no I'm gonna go with that super racist either way. Also clarence thomas agrees with you more than anybody else Well, that's why he's a great patriot. Yeah

Yeah, and you are right like no matter what the word there actually is Yeah, what he was expressing was even though clarence thomas is this word He's still against affirmative action and that's great. That's the most he's one of the good ones You could ever hear whatever that word was was a bad word for black people You know what? I would racially say that he was articulate, but he's literally never asked a question in open hearing So go fuck him Jesus christ jim tucker dropped an embalm on info wars. I've never heard that before I've listened to hundreds and hundreds of hours of alex's show. I've never heard a guest so casually say the n word

I've never heard anyone say it period On the show boy boy really threw that one out there, huh? Yeah, just just un unbothered And it was like alex and jim have hung out at all So the casualness with which he used that word. Hey, we want to thank you for being here. You're a great patriot Thank you for your 50 years of service and uh finally dropping the n word on my show because it's been a long time No, because alex gets him off like immediately. Oh, yeah, you saw him be like, uh, jim. Well, I don't know if that's supposed to be the end of their interview But he does still say like hey great. Thanks for joining us. He goes on to plug his book And all that stuff, but you could see his sense of like we don't let I'm not gonna let him talk without guidance

For a bit. But my point is that the two of them have hung out a ton alex looks up to him They got to they go together to build a Berg sometime to bullhorn and shit. They have bull sessions Uh, he's like jim tucker is clearly like a guy who likes his booze He's like he insisted on being interviewed in a bar in endgame. Yeah, he's drinking quite a bit during that interview Like the two of them have drunk together So they they have a knowledge of each other and whatever the case is i'm not saying I know anything But I do know that jim tucker thought it was cool to say the n word on alex's show in front of alex on his show Yeah, he that's the kind of friendship they must have and i'm not saying that's a good friendship

I'm saying that's a type Oh, man alex has done nothing in the time that they've known each other to make it clear to jim that doesn't fly here Oh, no, and he doesn't scold him on air. No, he doesn't say jim. Look, there's some words that are appropriate. There some aren't It's a mess man. I didn't know what to do with that jim. This is why I couldn't make it to the 15th jim Look, i'm a racist on my show all the time I want you to be a racist on my show all the time But we can't do that because then people would know I know you're 70

But come on come on We got to use code, baby What are you an 85 year old woman sitting on her porch in fucking georgia christ? Well, yes, I am Jim Tucker does character now. I prefer you refer to me as mrs. Tucker. Thank you very much so alex gets jim off the show Uh, he plugs his book and then says like we got to set up a time when you're in bilderberg at greece That we can do an interview and stuff like that. They do an on-air off-air meeting on air about because it's safe

He's not gonna say anything fucked up if you're just like, uh, what's the time difference in greece? I don't know but all those n words they're running. They went hold on Did you know they changed from uh, uh the gregorian calendar because all those n words I'm going down to greece with all these heffestus looking motherfuckers running around Yikes I don't know so, uh, he gets him off the air and that this is why I had to make kind of a point about how that was a Hard r n word is because as soon as jim gets off the air alex realizes what's been done

That jim just said the n word on his show So now alex has to pretend that he said a different word And he's got to spin it and the way he does it is not good You know one of my pet peeves is people not knowing what words mean in semantics because I know i'm gonna get emails from ignorant people Um, remember robin page who we had on bbc reporter was in the bbc news Oh, no, he did a report on rural affairs and he gave a speech saying rural communities deserve the same rights as homosexuals and muslims He was arrested When the british police five years ago said the word homosexual is a hate word

Now heterosexual homosexual That's just a scientific name for your sexual preference And it's the same thing with anglo negro And I was watching a documentary about the 50s and 60s civil rights movement and it showed the black folks saying we demand to be called that And then nowadays the public so ignorant somebody uses the old fashioned term And then they all freak out that but see that shows how screwed up the public is Yeah, I don't care if the government funds hiv and black folks vaccines. That's all it's just don't use a scientific term

I just wanted to add that before I get emails. You need to learn not to be so ignorant out there. They're right back folks So so that's the reason I needed to make a point of this because Um, no, no, uh, I think what alex is trying to present is that that's the word that jim said and it's not No, it is not if you I I listen to that so many times just to make it clear justify to not justify to myself But like even if he you're your version of it is totally correct Whatever word he used there was racial intent in it. Yeah, and it is not good. It's a very racist sentence But because of alex's response to it and it'd be like it's so ignorant I'm just gonna get ignorant emails from people who don't understand words and semantics. Yeah, that's us

That's on our that's on our part dan, but that's why it's important for me to delineate. That's not the word he said Still bad no matter what he said, but he did say that alex is trying to get defensive about it hoping There aren't tapes, but there were tapes. Oh, yeah, there's tapes. There's tapes Oh man five second delay alex that would that would make sense why later on we definitely see him pointing out There's a five second delay with uh that one fucking kid. Mm-hmm. Oh christ So even but even if but that's what the point even if that guy says african american You're like, I you're saying the n word. He would pronounce it real hard Yeah, it's a homosexual is not a bad word, but out of your fucking mouth. It's a bad word

Well, we already talked about that british dude too that alex is trying to use his justification and that doesn't even work Based on what he was up to So anyway, that was really crazy and like I did all the looking into and writing up on the like uh american free press And willis cardo before I even got to that part of the episode. Yeah, I'm like, well, I'm glad I wrote that up This dude was their editor you get it now. You get how these people are Yeah, so yeah, anyway in this next clip alex just says something really stupid And it's like in the context of a caller who's calling in and he's presenting like I look I don't know how it happened, but I've got tb. I got or not tb. I have hepatitis

C Okay, he's got hepatitis c and he's like, uh, I don't know I got tattoos But I you know, I thought I got him at all the places that You know or licensed and or have checks from the departments and and what have you I don't know. I got it somehow Should I take my medication for oh god? No, I don't want to hear the answer to that question We're not gonna get to it just yet, but he's like, I don't know. Is it just gonna make me worse Is it just gonna I'm worried that the government is trying to give me things with my hepatitis c medication Right, right, right, right, right, right and so uh cool cool cool

And so alex starts talking about first of all, he's like, I'm not a doctor I can't give medical advice and then he starts talking about a bunch of uh bunch of other diseases We've gone from one case in 2004 Of leprosy and no cases before that for decades to 7,000 in 2005 2006 the next year you can pull these numbers up From and then we haven't seen numbers since then We've gone, I mean Hepatitis everything's off the charts and you can get hepatitis from somebody making your you know your hamburger at a fast food place That doesn't sound right and in mexico they spray the farms with human feces and then people have gotten hepatitis from that

It's third world food third world food. I don't really care about that so much I want to talk about leprosy for just a second according to a 2014 report from the centers for disease control There were 2,300 new cases of leprosy diagnosed in the united states between 1994 and 2011 That 7,000 number cannot possibly be accurate because he's clearly talking about the united states He's talking about things that get brought in and that sort of thing so that number can't he's just making shit up That's not that's not accurate at all. Well, I think and I think what he's trying to say there is that There were no cases Then there was one case then there were 7,000 cases and then there were no cases

So I think his point that he's trying to make is they did this as like a test And then stop doing it. I don't think that's I don't think that's what I mean He's saying something that's supposed to raise suspicions. Yeah, obviously, but I don't think that's the point He's trying to make I think it's that they're bringing it in There's a third world food and stuff like that is supposed to I think it's supposed to anchor in your brain Is the idea of like third world places are bringing all that leprosy in as Along with the tb in the yeah, or whatever and so, I mean, it's just not accurate I mean, even if it were global statistics he was talking about like let's say that 7,000 number is accurate for the entire world

That one number isn't from the year before. Nope So there's no way he can be using consistent numbers Um to to make his point at all the only way that this is uh, the only way to look at the number as he was presenting Is he's either Cheating big time or he's just making it up. And I think it's the latter. I think he's just making it up You know, it's kind of fun though. Uh, that sounds to me like uh, the A little bit like obama's dog isn't a rescue as their scandal for Immigration like instead of they're going to rape everyone, you know, like all right

Oh, we just might get a little bit of leprosy. That's not too bad I mean depends on if you're the person getting that little bit. Well, I mean, hey, so you win some you lose some You just got to throw those dice So now we get to the bad part of alex's response to this guy's call I set up what he was talking about because here alex gets to the end of his response and he Says something super irresponsible Just to finish another question the interferon and all that there's a lot of studies a lot of experts a lot of doctors that say it's the

Drugs that supposedly treat you for HIV and other similar things that actually kill you quicker, but whatever Uh, let's talk to chip in michigan chip. Nope. Nope. You don't get to just say that You don't just and you do you know what else a lot of doctors is not enough doctors You don't get to start your answer by saying i'm not a doctor I can't give medical advice and then end your answer with a lot of doctors a lot of experts A lot of people say medications just make you worse, but whatever that but whatever at the end there is particularly distasteful Because it's supposed to imply dismissal of his own argument in order to highlight that that's the argument He's actually making it's like these these doctors say that this is the case, but whatever go take your medication

Yeah, that's that's the tone that he's trying to evoke in that. Absolutely. That's really dangerous He's telling this person not to take uh, their their their medication they need to maintain a chronic condition Yeah, no, he's literally he's literally saying I I am not a doctor But because I know so many doctors who have said this I am giving you second hand medical advice And that second hand medical advice is if you take your hiv medication you will die In his case it's hep C. But yeah, yeah, but anyone listening could get that negative message Absolutely for any kind of thing they have meds they need to take and it's just I mean it's insane Like yes, there are some medications for chronic conditions that have horrible side effects

But the conditions that they're they take care of also have horrible side effects And just trying to make propaganda out of the idea that like there is a small percentage of people who have terribly negative reactions to things Therefore, no one should take those. It's so bad. It's just so bad. And that's what he's putting it. He's I can't stress he started this show saying that if you don't like taxes You can fight back with the second amendment right have him allowing jib talker to say the n word on his show And now he's telling the dude straight up if you read between the lines of what he's saying don't take your meds Like this is fucked up. That's a really interesting responsible. That's a really interesting argument I would say for free speech

Do you know what i'm saying? Yeah, like if you say something that literally leads to the death of a person Yeah, and that's purely because they believed what you say. That's a really fascinating question Yeah, I know. I don't know. I don't actually know what to do with that. I thought about it a bit But I don't know what line I draw, right? I don't know. Yeah, how could you? Yeah, would would somebody have to die or would just grieve a spotty harm or just the the risk I would say I hope that You know, first of all, I'm never the person who has to decide those sorts of things I'd hope that you'd have a court. Well, everyone expects me to be that. So I'm trying. I'm trying to get your input

Yeah, yeah, of course. I don't know. I don't know. I think I mean If you're like a family member of like, let's say this guy stops taking his hep C medication and dies Yeah, let's just say just as an example Right his family members could have this audio of him literally calling into alex's show and him saying There's a lot of people who think your meds are worse for you than your your condition. Yeah I I don't know. I don't I don't know if that makes him culpable for giving bad advice, right? I don't know. It's dangerous. It's super dangerous It seems worse and more dangerous than yelling fire in a crowded theater, you know

Although that I don't know that could cause a stampede, which yeah, that's a that's a whole I mean, it's the same sort of principle though It's like the the the speech you're making is fine But the consequences of your speech sometimes aren't yeah and as much as like Threatening somebody it's not the words that are the problem. It's the implied threat behind them right that are the words or extorting somebody Yeah, there's nothing wrong with saying getting uh or get uh ready Or to or die But if you say them if you but if you say them all in a in a row, that's a that's a problem Yeah, I don't know. It's a complicated line. I don't think we have an answer on it

But anyway, uh at this point Alex takes another call from a guy, uh, and this guy is uh going to the Orlando tea party the next day And he has some big news for Alex about something he's bringing with him. I'm also going to disneyland I guess with the tea parties that are going on Uh, there's definitely there's going to be a big one here in Orlando tomorrow at uh illa park supposed to be about six thousand people, but we do have A group of about 20 people and a couple of bull horns. We're going to go down there tomorrow We have cheering crushers Probably more by then

To give out with the obama deception and all kind of other stuff This guy gets it and I just I want to encourage uh People who aren't florida who are wanting to get active maybe you know This is the first time you're hearing this and you don't know where to go to You can go to the www.meetup.com backslash Orlando 911 truth. We do a lot of stuff and last thing that I'll let you go. I know you got a lot to do But uh, we're gonna have a special celebrity endorsement tomorrow. We got a uh, life-size baraco obama Cut out. We're taking to the rally with us with a speech bubble that says

new administration Same agenda one world government. Well done. Well done. Good to hear from you So that's not too bad But we do know because we live in 2019 that one of the features of tea parties Moving forward from here in tea party protests burning effigies of obama, right? So I'm not saying that this guy in any way Facilitated that but it's really or it was a inspiration or anything like that. This guy is just doing something. It's a goofy sign Whatever I I'm it. It's just interesting that before this tax day

Largest number of tea parties around the country that that sort of thing was there and it's sort of more innocent phase That would turn super dark pretty quick. And I think it's a function of the fact that at this point I don't think that the tea party really had lost the thread yet At least before tax day. There was a focus it seems mostly on being against taxes That that's yeah, so like it makes sense that this guy would bring a big Obama cut out and it'd just be like he's a new world order or whatever as opposed to what it becomes Which is like, you know hanging dolls of obama and burning them and stuff like that like that's It's interesting to me. It pivots it pivots somewhere alex. We were gonna put in

in that speech bubble New administration same agenda, but then we were listening to your show earlier and bill tucker Jim tucker said something that's gotta go in that speech bubble now Yuck. Oh, and that's another thing too. None of the callers seem to be upset about tucker. No, of course not If I were on hold and I heard that it'd be like alex They don't have a five second delay, but they do have a call screener at this point in time alex You can't let fucking big jim tucker drop n bombs man. Come on And you can't pretend you didn't hear it when you rushed him off the phone like that

You can't respond that way and then be like listen all you dumb dumps. He said a different word. It's scientific Fuck off. Yeah out of here. Yeah. Yeah. If he hadn't of defended it, there would definitely have been more of a Like ambiguous ambiguousness Yeah, because but as opposed to him like jumping in and being like a lot of people are gonna get that word wrong You're like, uh, uh, uh, you know You know, there's no ambiguity for me in terms of what jim said But there would be like a bit of plausible deniability in what alex heard if he hadn't defended it Right because he didn't say anything after that cigarette tax dropping of that word

You know, like it's not like it's not like alex responded and needed to be like, well, look, I know jim You know, it's a scientific word people are gonna get mad or whatever He didn't respond that way. You just let the conversation roll He responded that way because he heard the fucking hard r and word and he's like, I got I gotta save this Yeah, so and his callers just I mean they either Accepted whatever his version of it was or they just didn't care either or they were like Right bout time. I've been waiting 20 years. I know I have been listening to you alex And every show I keep thinking is this gonna be the show where we finally get the n word

Today is the day also today is a fucking red letter day and that red letter is a hard r Jesus also I don't mean to say this as a compliment to alex in any way, but he rolled with it amazingly well like To the point where I actually think I mean this in a negative way. He seemed unfazed. Yeah Yeah, no, that's an absolutely negative thing the way he was able to pivot it to like a gym It's been great to have you on the show plugged his book made sure not to get into a fight with him And then got defensive as soon as he got off the phone on jim's behalf. Yeah, uh, it seemed like it That isn't something he didn't think could happen. Yeah, it was at least a little prepared for on some level

I legitimately can't think of any situation where a friend of mine would just suddenly drop that word and I'd be like And let's keep going. Let's keep going with this little beat. Oh, we're on the rift train. I'm just gonna slide right past that It'd be like it'd be like Nope. Yeah, go fuck yourself Um, so we actually only have one more clip on this episode that we're going over here on the 14th Um, and it's it's an interesting thing that goes on For most of the show, alex is teasing a guest that he's gonna have on and it's this guy that he only identifies as an economist from argentina Okay

And that economist is well, he doesn't say and the guy Lionel messy everybody This guy might be as much of an accountant as messy The greatest soccer player of all time. Have you seen the way he moves? So this dude, uh Is like he's having phone troubles So the the interview gets pushed back a bit and alex takes some more calls and they're all just kind of Inconsequential and boring. It doesn't really matter, but it finally alex gets to him and uh, Well, actually, this is a clip of him having trouble getting him on the phone where he finally reveals who this Argentinian economist is one martin del pochero

Great tennis player. He had so many injuries for a long time after defeating federer at the u.s. Open Tearing apart the big four, but instead no over two. Okay, sorry This is always happening. Uh, adrian salvucci the Economist in argentina documenting what their collapse was like by design with the international monetary fund in the world bank Have a trouble getting connected to him in argentina He doesn't eventually get him on the phone and i'm not going to give him the courtesy of playing anything he says Very nice because it's just i mean you can expect it's just globalist bullshit talking whatever of course Well, here's the thing alex says his name

And so i'm able to tell you who he is adrian salvucci is uh, he's the economist The alex has wanted to discuss the hardships of argentina and you know how the globalists are destroying their economy Of course alex however fails to point out that salvucci is an ultra nationalist and part of a group called project second republic Which aims to bring a new independence to argentina a new independence from whom you might ask I think you already know It's the jews salvucci and his group believe in a conspiracy known as the andinia plan Which took uh, it took some plans, uh regarding jewish immigration to south america in the late 19th century and early 20th century

And exaggerated them into being jewish plans to take over argentina and establish a second jewish state there The theory has been a mainstay of argentinian neo-nazi propaganda for decades and this salvucci guy is all about it salvucci has been denounced in 2014 by the delegation of argentine israelite associations for his anti-semitic comments Which shouldn't be surprising considering that he seems to make a habit of being interviewed by holocaust deniers like this guy james fetzer who he got interviewed by uh, who once wrote quote my research on the holocaust narrative suggests It's not only untrue, but probably false Uh, salvucci also posted a youtube video on his own channel entitled quote the truth about the protocols of the sages of zion Which unsurprisingly was not a debunking video. Oh, yeah, no

I I don't know All of this but it kind of concerns me that anti-semitism flourishes in a place where I May be incorrect in assuming this But I feel like there are not a ton of jews living in argentina No, there were there's a there's a number of uh, it's it's a place that uh, there was in like the 1880s And after there was some jewish emigration there Uh, south america was attractive to a number of jewish folk really. I did not know that I don't understand all of the

Dynamics of that necessarily, but there are there are some communities down there But also you got all you got to consider that a lot of fucking nazis hid there, too The boys from Brazil and what have you that is true. Yeah, so mangalo was out down there in south america That is a good point. I did not consider so a lot of that influence may also linger In some in some national hyper nationalist situations there and so this guy uh, this adrian salvucci is uh, uh, that's that's his flavor He's not an economist who wants to talk about the globalists in alex's

Supposed conception of them, uh coming in and like uh economic takeover and what have you he wants He's a dude who believes that the jews are trying to create another israel there I really feel like you can't be Considered an economist if part of the basis of your worldview of economy is first we got to kick out the jews That kind of run like that's not part of the chicago school of economics austrian I'm pretty sure it is part of the austrian school of economics I don't think thomas pecchetti was adding in like oh and by the way the five jew bankers like i don't I don't think that's on me

That guy I think he was more just about being a dick and uh, salducci a Fucking i don't know if i would call him a neo nazi necessarily, but he's close He has a lot of leaning some sympathies and absolutely anti-semitic Uh things that he's brought into the world and that he stands for So the idea that alex is having him on i i'm gonna give alex a little bit of credit on this one And that is i don't think he knows because he has i don't think he has any idea who this guy is No, he i agree earlier in the episode. He's like i got this economist from argentina coming on

Let me find his bio page Like i think that during the episode when i was when i was saying like he was teasing it a bunch of just saying It was an economist. I think that's because he didn't remember his name Yeah, like i don't think he has any fucking idea who this guy is and unfortunately because he hasn't done any kind of Research or anything like that. He allows someone who believes in the andinia plan right to come on to his show and Probably probably speak in code a bit. I think in retrospect alex would call that a happy accident Not a mistake on research. You know what i'm saying probably like hey, isn't that a surprise? We got an economist that agrees. Well, you know what the problem is too there

It's kind of demonstrative of how like you can have somebody who is like Look the protocols of the elders of zion are real It's a fucking real thing the jews want to come in and take over argentina make another israel here And you know blah blah blah you can have that guy. You can have the editor of willis carto's anti-semitic publications come on the show You you can have them all make arguments that are all compatible like you yeah, you can have and that that says something It really does say something that there aren't red flags that pop up for alex that like uh-oh Maybe i'm hanging out with bad people. Yeah

That's not good. No, it's not good The show not good. Is there is there anywhere where people aren't afraid of the jews coming? That's a really frustrating this household. That's yeah That's a really frustrating thought that you it really does seem like you can't go anywhere without somebody Eventually being like the jews are trying to take over here like Well, there's a lot of places that historically have been under the sway of a lot of that propaganda, you know a lot of places Uh in the the former soviet bloc certainly have uh a lot of that in there in their history There's a and well they started it

Yeah, and you know there's there's some south american influence of nazis and shit So like that makes sense that it would be there. There's plenty of countries that i'm sure have much less historical Uh tendrils of antisemitism in them like i don't know. I would hope australia is a little bit less. No, absolutely not. No, no Not even close. That's a bummer. Uh, uh, it's kind of hoping that maybe they They're so far away Kind of hoping they missed that one just took a knee. I oh boy We I think I think everybody in australia that listens to our shows like dude

I wish we took a knee on a lot of shit. Oh, yeah, and I guess that's sort of revealing that I don't know Uh, uh necessarily about australian antisemitic stuff. Who knows anyway, jordan. This has been our episode This has been april 14th 2009 a little bit of a shorter episode, but uh, there was a there was it took a lot out of me hearing jim tucker There were more n words on this episode Despite it being short than many previous episodes. It's true. I would say almost all of our episodes That have lasted three to four hours So I would say we jam packed a lot into a very short period of time. I would say so. Um, so, um

What do you what? I don't know. Uh, do we have uh, do we have a web website? We do it's info wars dot wiki It's uh knowledge fight dot com. Uh, indeed it is. Uh, we do we have a twitter page? Yep knowledge underscore fight Oh, shit. What about on facebook? Yeah, and we have a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant Okay, where could you find us? Uh on itunes. There's uh options there in terms of leaving a review subscribe All that good stuff. Oh, yeah, you can also use a bunch of different apps. Do you know what I've been using for my Let me uh, let me pull this up. I like it. It's very much like uh adrian salducci You don't remember the name of this app. It's called overcast

I've heard of that. I like it. You're sure that's not an atmosphere album early 2000s. Oh boy. Oh boy. Here we go Boo to me. Um, so I don't know man. I bet jim tucker hasn't physically murdered anybody Uh, he's murdered my innocence. Yeah That's that's not true. I don't know man. I think he probably hasn't killed anybody I got a vibe on him and he just seems like uh, like A guy who sits at a typewriter and had a glass of like a big old glass of whiskey next to him Just like that angry screeds. Yeah, that sounds like minorities and jews, right But he still didn't kill anybody but one guy technically

Probably has killed a guy and that guy is alex jones Andi and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex, i'm a first time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you