Knowledge Fight - #281: April 4, 2019

Episode Date: April 8, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at some modern day Alex Jones to see what they can learn from it. It turns out, they learn that Alex may be basing a lot of his worldview on a specific sci-fi novel, and that his lawyers don't seem to trust him much.

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello, Alex. I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan. Dan? Jordan. Who's your favorite in the Greek pantheon? Who's your god? Hephaestus. Hephaestus is your god? I think we've talked about this before.

Have we? Yeah. God damn it. He's the only god that has a physical deformity, and thus is the one that relates the most to humanity and the irony of him being married to Aphrodite. The goddess of love is Mary. I didn't know he was married to Aphrodite.

I think she got around. But the goddess of love is married to the one crippled god. Okay. There's a great rich irony in the Greek mythology that goes with that. How about Norwegian? How about the Norse gods? Don't know much. Who do you got on the Norse gods?

I don't fucking know. All right, fine. You got a famous Norwegian, a favorite Norwegian guy? I don't know. I'm pretty stoked about Woden. He seems pretty cool. Okay. He's pretty woke.

That's the closest to woke that you can get in God's form. Just because of the words already? Pretty much. Okay. He likes Wednesday? All right. Garfield put a couple days later. I like it.

Wait. No, Garfield hates Wednesdays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is a podcast where I don't know all that much about the Norwegian pantheon, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones. That's the fun. So, Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.

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You can do that by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com. Clicking that button says support the show. We would appreciate it. They would be very kind. So, Jordan, today what we're doing is we're getting back into business, I would say. You know, like the last couple episodes since we came back from our, our We Break have been the Deposition episode and then Mark Richards project came a lot of episode. So there hasn't been like, like media Alex, I would say since we've come back.

And so today we're jumping back into the present day of Alex Jones. And today we got this episode here. We're going to be doing is we're going to be going over April 4th, 2019. Something that I wanted to do or I kind of thought about doing was the idea of like going back through some of the stuff that happened while we were on break and stuff. Just to catch up to present day as it were. Do you like a compilation of the past week? Greatest hits.

Greatest hits. Worst times. Greatest bad stuff. Yeah. The albums that you might see at 3 a.m. on an infomercial. Yeah, yeah. The great, yeah. But those would be good songs.

These would be trash. Right, right, right. This is now that's what I call Music 44. Yeah, but I was sort of looking through some of it and I was like, well, this is just we're going to get mired down in a bog if we do that. We're never going to get back to present day. Yeah. If we just constantly are like looking back in the rear view at something that might have been kind of fucked up that

happened like Alexa blaming the people at the chicken restaurant for him yelling at them. That sort of thing. Yeah. Well, all right. And Joe Rogan came on Alex's show and that's all good and well. That's that's totally fun. But I think one of the things that makes that not something I necessarily think we need to talk about all that much. There's two things.

First is that when Joe comes on Alex's show, what's really going on is Joe is being fucked up and I don't. We're not a Joe Rogan show. Yeah. So we don't really need to deconstruct Joe being fucked up. Oh, yeah. You know, when Alex goes on Joe's show, that's interesting for our purposes because that's about Alex. Right, right, right. Joe coming on Alex's shows kind of about Alex, but Alex is just saying the same shit he usually does and Joe's like, wow.

So who gives a shit? Joe plays the shroyer role on this one to some extent. And then the second thing is that I went back and I listened to the March 25th episode, the part where Rogan was on. And it's just a 20 minute segment of the one hour interview that he did with Rogan and it's entirely just based on the like you want to see the rest. It's on info wars.com. Nice. It's kind of nice. It's kind of a teaser.

It's a teaser for it. It's a trailer. Yeah. Yeah. Put that out on his radio show in order to lure people to his website. And so it's just like, I don't care. I just don't want to get into it. I'd rather jump to closer to the present since this is coming out on Monday and this will be last Thursday's episode.

And honestly, I wanted to do Thursday and Friday. I wanted to do April 4th and 5th, but there's there's too much on the 4th that I had to look into. And I think it's very important for our purposes. And so, unfortunately, 5th had to take a backseat on this might get to it eventually. Oh, shit. I forgot my mom's birthday. Oh, my birthday, Jordan's mom. That was.

What a fucking asshole I am. That completely forgot. That response was not the I forgot my mom's birthday was not what I thought was coming after that. Oh, shit. Well, I'm glad that we're going over this episode. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to give everybody a call.

You owe someone a phone call. It's both my brother and my mom's birthday. You may not have to give them a phone call because as we learned in this first clip, we might not be here too long. It's Thursday, April 4th, 2019 under host Alex Jones. Well, I just walked in there about two minutes ago before I went live and I wrote the headline for the page we post every day that has the show in it so that people can share the audio and video link and the headline states the facts. The planet is only six months away from total civilizational collapse. That is fast.

Right. So you think you can put off this call for six months. It won't really matter. It won't really matter. Birthdays will be a concept that we do not have time for anymore. I agree. Civilization collapses. Yeah.

I hope he expands on that. Not sure he will. But certainly something to be afraid of. In his next clip, Alex introduces into the proceedings of this April 4th episode demons. Okay. Vis-a-vis Kanye West who, if you recall, not a couple months ago, Alex was trying to get Kanye on his show desperately. And really trying to get, he's like, he's going to free all the black people from the Democratic Plantation. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

Alex's tune has changed a little bit. Kanye is just doing what the universe told him to do. See, there's not just good in the universe. There's evil. And some people are doing what the dark side is telling them. Some people are being given very twisted evil ideas by entities sworn to destroy all human life on this planet. That's what all the ancient cultures said. It's what the Bible says.

It's what Judaism says. It's even when Islam says. So demons are telling Kanye West to do something. I don't know. You're the guy who knows the pop culture a little bit more than me. Did Kanye do something recently that Alex is mad about? Not that I'm really aware of. No idea.

Although I do believe that Kanye has at least talked to demons. That's certainly there. He has a dark twisted fantasy that came to him from demonic sources. Nicely done. Thanks. So I think that this is just about the idea that Kanye was like saying that like slavery wasn't a big deal before. And then he's like, that was fucked up. I shouldn't have said that.

And Alex is I think he's trying to say that like Kanye not saying those things anymore for a bit. Now there's demons demons that that sounds right. Yeah, that's just it's just a big giant on off switch for Alex. It's like Kanye does something good. Kanye is the greatest human being that's ever ever been. Kanye does something he doesn't like. Kanye is controlled by demons two weeks from now. Kanye could call Trump up and be like, hey, give me a give me a shout out for 808s and heartbreaks.

Right. And he'll be like, fuck yeah. Kanye is the greatest. He's the best. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's weird. I don't know exactly what's going on here. And in terms of all the stuff that I like to look into this isn't one of them.

So I just decided to leave that alone. But it is it's very important. The Kanye part isn't but the people listening to demons part is very important. Right. Because it informs some of the stuff that's coming up on this episode. In this next clip, Alex talks about Plato, not the kids toy. Right. The philosopher and indicates that he knows nothing about Plato.

By the way, everything Plato wrote about almost all of it. They've dug up or found now just like the Bible. They keep digging up cities and fighting tombs and improving all of it. There's one part he wrote about that they never found and that was Atlantis in the Atlantic Ocean, an island that had flying machines and an energy source that glowed white light that was its power that exploded and then for years it was freezing cold and the sky was dark because of all the dust in the air. How would someone know what really happens like that?

Great movie. I think he knew a little bit more. Don't you think? Fantastic. Old Plato might have been talking to somebody. He fixes boilers. He keeps little horns and little teeth hidden so you don't get scared. And so you see that's what this all comes down to and everybody knows

the devil's real and the globalists have made a deal with the devil. Period. Period. So some important pieces of this. You're right. That is Disney's Atlantis. That is not Plato's Atlantis. The Plato only talked about Atlantis a couple times in Timaeus and Critias

is two dialogues and none of that stuff is in fact the destruction of Atlantis by Plato's telling of it has to do with the fact that they got into a war the Atlanteans they got a little bit too big for the britches that'll happen and the people of Athens had to put them down and so they went in and the Atlanteans although they were a smaller city state were able to take out the Atlanteans and then the gods punished them with earthquakes of course stuff like that. It wasn't a white glowing power source that exploded and flying machines

and all that bullshit that's not so it's totally Disney also. I love the idea of him just saying like and they've dug up all that he's written like what are you what archaeologists like all the cities that are mentioned in Plato and stuff like that. Oh they dug up all the cities that Plato is the locations. Okay. I think that's what he's saying. I thought he was talking about everything that everything that Plato's ever

written. They were like we got it like the idea of an archaeologist being like yep that was the last one check it off our list we're good. Yeah there's a it's like a video game with a missions list all the Plato's writings you have to find. Yeah that's crazy but then also the other thing too is Alex is like you think Plato might have been talking to somebody and it's like if you read to me I think pretty is you'd know why he knows this information it's very

clear in there and that is that so long the legendary ruler in ancient Greece he went and spoke with the Egyptians he went over to Egypt and spoke to the Egyptians he got the story of Atlantis from the Egyptians came back and told Plato's grandfather I believe and that's how it got passed down to Plato that's it's clear the lineage of information in Plato's writings is clear he's not talking to demons though it is very important again to mention that Alex is saying that they hide their teeth and wings so they don't scare you that is an important thing for them to do that is

important yeah so hold on to that thought as we jump in with Alex is stupid he doesn't he's never read Plato that's what I'm saying hold on quick question yeah are you hiding your teeth and wings from me I'm not but we will get into where he gets that idea from okay in this next clip the veneer of civilization is almost gone the purposeful takedown of the planet right as we prepare to go to jump point not just to the stars but to other dimensions jump point also the establishments obsessed with the technology they've got they're obsessed with the breakaway civilization

though they've got life extension they've already got everything for all intents and purposes they found forms of immortality and they're able to push off-deaf so far they believe they'll have true immortality within 50 years and so we're just an afterthought you see globalism was always meant to fail but for the acolytes the sub-level not the actual elite but the sub-oids that the professors the technicians they believe they're taking over the earth to save the planet and it's their right to rule and organize society that's why they're going to reduce population if you're just a kind of a mid-level person you're

told 80% if you're higher level you're told 90% if you're really high level you're told 99% of humans will be taken out and if you're in that maybe 2,000 people that have been given the whole ball of wax the whole picture you're told humans are an abomination course and our God says he will give us the codes to merge with silicon and truly live forever with him that sounds fun and be uploaded to the consciousness and then move on to the next planet you're like wait a minute I read an Arthur C. Clarke book called childhoods in that whole media pushed and loved and it was so good and the whole wonderful

Arthur C. Clarke was in the real Illuminati he was in the real crowd crowdy type groups that they just use Crowley to put out some of their info of course naturally he was in MI6 OSS before that total highest level so see you read those books you watch those movies and let me explain something to you they're telling you how the cow ate the cabbage you understand with his mouth they're telling you how the cow ate the cabbage Alex loves that expression so Jordan that clip made me feel like a fool in a way that few Alex Jones clips ever have simply because it made me remember something I'd forgotten and

that I really should have remembered I read childhoods and the 1953 sci-fi novel by Arthur C. Clarke back in junior high but unfortunately the details are a little bit murky in my mind I remembered that it was about an alien invasion that was benevolent that led to the destruction of the planet but past that it was kind of a little bit gray so when Alex brought up the book in that clip I decided that maybe I needed to revisit the text and when I did I realized that Alex very well may be basing most of his worldview and his conception of the power behind the globalists on childhoods and have you

ever read it no I have not read it okay good because I'm a big I wasn't a big Arthur C. Clarke guy I wasn't a huge fan either but I also I wasn't totally huge on sci-fi as like as I got into like late junior high into high school that wasn't sort of my cup of tea but I had read I was a vociferous reader when I was younger but unfortunately because I read a lot of things before I was probably old enough to really internalize a lot of them I've lost my memory of a ton of shit I read and childhoods and was one of them but I just read it yesterday because I was like I need to get into this I need to see

what Alex is talking about so if you haven't read it and spoiler alert here for childhoods and the book is about it the intense childhood it does yeah so also there was a sci-fi network series based on it that was apparently disappointing a couple years back but the book is about a future where the countries of earth are at the brink of nuclear war by way of militarizing a space race which promises to destroy the planet before the trigger could be pulled alien ships appear and nuclear war gets put on the back burner these aliens say that they're going to be supervising earth to make sure that we

don't bring extinction upon ourselves and since there are a ton of spaceships over major cities humanity goes along with the plan the aliens called the overlords are in charge of the major issues of the world but they're not enslaving humanity at all the only direct interference that they have are in international relations issues and other than that outside of the sphere of international relations they only interfere twice in humanities affairs wants to outlaw bullfighting because it's a barbaric practice and wants to relieve the persecution of the white minority in post-apartheid South

Africa because at the time that he wrote this this book there was the perception of apartheid is going to end and then it's all going to be flipped in the white minority there is going to be brutally repressed oh if only and so he imagined that being the state of it and these aliens the overlords that he'd Arthur C. Clarke had conceived of would think that that was such an inhumane situation that he would try they would try and rectify things so and unsurprising that the alien race known as the overlords would be supporting the swedelanders a little bit on the nose there I think but that's a future he

didn't know I know I know it's just it's just fun so the overlord supervisor Karelian only speaks directly to the secretary general of the United Nations which is where we get one of our first connections to Alex's worldview Alex believes that the globalists among whom the leadership of the UN are bigwigs they take their orders from an off-world race an idea that is a very basic piece of childhoods end and the storyline thereof though Karelian speaks to the secretary general he won't allow him to see his physical form the secretary general presses on the issue saying that humanity won't be horrified of them

and likely won't fully trust the overlords if they can't see them Karelian discusses the idea with his superiors and decides to promise to show their true form to humanity after 50 years a point at which humans will have gotten used to the overlords being around and won't be so shocking for them to see their true form those naive overlords when the time comes the overlords appear to man and they look exactly like the traditional image of demons this is the second direct mirror to Alex's worldview he believes that off-world entities that are giving orders to the globalists are actually demons who don't want you to

think that they're demons we heard it earlier in that clip where he said they're hiding their teeth and wings so you don't see and you don't get afraid that tension the concept of masking the image of looking like a demon to gain people's trust is an idea that he almost certainly lifted whole sale from this book almost entirely that's fascinating yeah and it gets it gets weirder do you know it's a weird coincidence I remember this now the secretary general in childhood childhoods end is Ban Ki Moon isn't that crazy it was he got that one right it was so weird it's Ricky storm

bane or something like that yeah all right can't remember exactly his last name storm bringer yeah that's very close yeah yeah so the overlords guide humanity through a number of years of prosperity and peace but ultimately mankind feels uninspired and like they're losing something that makes them vibrant so an artist's colony is established in opposition to the overlords although the overlords don't really care that people are doing it on an island called New Athens the colony is supposed to be a utopian place where humanity can thrive but ultimately the inhabitants there blow themselves up with a nuclear bomb

which I think is where Alex is getting his ideas about what happened to Atlantis from that we heard earlier in this episode oh boy yeah if only he was really into beneath the planet of the games that would be more fun I'm not saying he's not yeah it might be I mean if he had an unexploded nuclear bomb underneath his house that he worshiped that would make just as much sense as anything else he says it could be yeah so I'm skipping over a lot of stuff here but it ends up being the case that the overlords aren't necessarily here to help humanity as much as they are here to usher us into the next phase of our

evolution they serve the orders of something called the overmind which is a godlike entity that's made up of ascended elements of other species from throughout the planet uh sorry throughout the universe all kinds of other planets the overlords mission was to facilitate the inevitable ascension of humanity into the overmind they're the cosmic midwives unable to ascend into the overmind themselves only able to experience the divine process vicariously this also mirrors Alex's ideas about the globalists lacking some spark that humanity has

something that they envy it's not so clear from the the text uh that the globe or the uh the overlords are particularly mad or jealous of humanity's ability to become one with the overmind but knowing Alex's psychology it's easy to see how he would project that onto these characters in the book yeah of course that they're somehow bitter about the uh fact that they can't become one with the overmind they just have to serve the overmind right right and help us become one with the overmind and it's not a it's not like a manipulation that was

something that was gonna happen that was that that ascendance was happening one way or the other they were just there to help the process go smoothly um they're not doing it to us or something like that but Alex as a suspicious guy could easily read the book and be like they did that shit they knew it they made the kids psychic i think that's one of the reasons that i was never a big arthur c clark fan is uh the lack of creative naming like eight eight the over the overlords the overmind yeah what what day is it you're asking me

the overtime you also took it's all gonna be there but you also cribbed a lot of these ideas from like another book from like the 1930s that someone else wrote or expanded on the ideas that he had read other places it's not like outright theft or anything like that no no no no i think the book was good i enjoyed it and everything but i also thought it had some structural problems uh it's not the best book ever even best sci-fi book but some of the ideas i think are really interesting and worth uh exploring so anyway the becoming one with the

overmind happens because the children of earth begin to express psychic abilities that evolve pretty quickly and they become more and more of a unified entity all of these individual children become one the sort of metaphor that they use is the idea of like islands while the ocean is there appear to be separate things but if the ocean disappears you see them as connected uh through the uh the bottom of the ocean yeah you see that all the islands are actually the same land mass that's what happens to these children they all become one uh and become

completely a different thing than the rest of humanity well that's fun the overlords are not doing this to the children they are just there to usher through the process that's happening with or without them however the misrepresentation that they're somehow affecting the children of earth is completely in line with alex's beliefs but how the globalists are targeting the children and trying to change them through the water through hormones these sorts of things the the uh all the all the attacks on the children and the family very clearly mirrored

in a misreading of childhood zen yeah in the end the earth is destroyed uh not by the uh the overlords by the way uh but the earth is destroyed and the children mature enough to ascend into oneness with the overmind the overlords move on to await their next mission from the overmind uh the next species uh that they'll be tasked with aiding in their ascension the the last human jan rodericks escapes the chaos on earth by stowing away in a supply ship that goes back to the overlords planet

there he has a conversation with some of the aliens about what's going on and realizes there's nothing left for him at all he has no hope of ascending with the evolved children there are no more humans left and he can't very well become an overlord or what kind of an existence would he have if he just went along with them to the next uh planet that they go uh again they're functioning functionally immortal like the overlords live forever he wouldn't even make it to the next planet probably so he has nothing left so he decides to witness the end of earth uh the end of the planet and report

back to the overlords about the experience as it happens because they have like cameras watching the planet but they don't know experientially what it's like for the end of the planet to happen so he's staying on the planet in order to experience the the destruction of the planet and because he realizes that the overlords weren't some sort of nefarious force he's giving them whatever information could be helpful to them yeah sure so that's the that's how he decides to die everybody has a purpose but before that happens

he has this exchange with rashivaric another one of the overlords quote tell me this then jan said here's something else you've never explained when your race first came to earth back in the distant past what went wrong why uh had you become the symbol of fear and evil to us rashivaric smiled he didn't do this as well as karellen could but it was a fair imitation quote no one ever guessed and you see now why we could never tell you there was only one event that could have made such an impact upon humanity and that event was not at the dawn of

history but at the very end quote what do you mean ask jan quote uh when our ships entered your skies a century and a half ago that was the first meeting of our two races though of course we had studied you from a distance and yet you feared and recognized us as we knew that you would it wasn't precisely a memory you've already you have already the had proof that time is more complex than your science ever imagined for that for that over time for that memory was not of the past

but of the future of those closing years when your race would know everything was finished we did what we could but it wasn't an easy end and because we were there we became identified with your race's death yes even while it was 10 000 years in the future it's as if a distorted echo had reverberated around the closed circle of time from the future to the past call it call it not a memory but a premonition the idea was hard to grasp and for a moment jan wrestled with it in silence yet he should have been

prepared he had already received proof enough that cause and effect could reverse in their normal sequence there must be such a thing as racial memory and that memory is somehow independent of time to it the future and the past are one that is why thousands of years ago men had already glimpsed a distorted image of the overlords through a mist of fear and terror alex's idea of race memory don't make sense when you think about it being an expression of epigenetics and he always talks about the ideas being something much more complicated and

grander than just instincts what he believes doesn't line up with anything real but it lines up perfectly with the concept expressed in childhood's end i think that alex just believes that science fiction books are real and childhood's end is a giant piece that explains so much of what alex believes about the entities that are behind the globalists that he's against and i feel really stupid um not stupid but i wish i had remembered that book better went like months and months ago when as we were going through this because i

think a lot of our confusion could have been dismissed with like he's just talking about fucking arthur c clark he just thinks that's real but i think it's reasonable for you to have missed that and let me tell you why because i was like 13 when i read it no because this adds another book to the list of books that alex has read and that is a shock every time that go we went from four to five that's a 25 increase i think he was probably super literate when he was younger like i don't think i think that it uh his inability to read or his

unwillingness to read is probably a more recent feature of his life i think probably in junior high and high school he was probably uh like a really huge science fiction fan like i think that i think that he was a satanist as well it's true satanism science fiction one in the same pretty much the dreams of men what that's all satanism is that's true i think that if we were a little bit more critical of him i think we would end up finding almost everything that he thinks is real that sounds stupid

is in a sci-fi book from the 70s yeah or 50s 60s like it's just all old science fiction all right we got a new book club dan i think we do figure out what the hell it is alex thinks right start with azimov and move on from there i think azimov might have been too hard for it might have been that's possible i think uh i think he probably sticks to the more pop pulp uh kind of uh serialized authors yeah that's fair so i think that this is crazy i think it's incredibly stupid and reading that uh book was just like ah there's that

oh my god i can't believe they talk about racial memory in this book that clearly like if it was just a book that talked about racial memory i wouldn't be like i'd be like all right that's one thing but the fact that it's the same book where you have an alien race that communicates with the un it involves messing with it quote unquote messing with the children the demise of the planet the races and uh the idea of them hiding their appearance because they look like what we think of as demons yeah like all of that is so much alex in one

um concentrated burst yeah absolutely it was nuts there's a real revelation for me yeah the uh the the hodor twist that's uh that's nice i like that at the end sure yeah so anyway this leads alex saying that you gotta follow god which i mean this might as well just be an overzealous uh religious program at this point that's something that the overlords did all the time that is not they did a lot of overzealous things i'm not sure they did they were very restrained as alex is not in this clip now you can say this is some psychotic group that just has these visions

and created these entities in their minds as an alter ego that they communicate with in their giant psychosis to carry out these operations against us but one way or the other the heads of the major intelligence agencies and all these other groups believe they're following the orders of a eternal being that they believe is god you'll remind now there are more and more groups are saying we don't want to go with that god and kill everybody they're trying to override it let's go with jesus that's the real god

not lucifer not the devil that others he's the globalist the eugenicist cut off by a commercial break he's a little over the top it's not this fake god that arthur c clark what do you like bacon god damn yeah so i mean i guess what alex believes the opposite forces in the world are are jesus and science fiction entities that are real great i don't understand like i can't imagine like i can't imagine anybody taking this shit seriously

like it's it's pretty embarrassing like his actual beliefs that he's espousing i i get embarrassed that we do this show to a certain extent when i hear stuff like that yeah but then i remind myself that what's important isn't it like debunking his worldview because it's it's an embarrassing act to do i still enjoy doing it sometimes because you get to learn little things you'd never read childhoods and i'm sure i haven't i'm sure some people listening hadn't either but the the important thing is cutting through the effect that he has on the

world as opposed to how stupid this bullshit is right and so that's why i'm glad that this next clip leads us into that territory when alex comes back he starts talking about the idea that uh you know there's an essential difference between christians and non-christians even if you are genetically the same so like a genetically similar christian and non-christian there's a fundamental difference between the two of them and this is uh this is going to lead me to

something i'm pretty pretty mad about you can have the exact same africans in rwanda there's many other cases all over the world you have exact same people same genetics why'd you pick africans people all you're very similar genetics why'd you pick rwanda and you'll have one tribe that's animus or islamic or anything else and they just can't get to act together and then you'll have a tribe that's christian and they always produce on average 20 times the prosperity of any other group 20 times he says 20 times uh more uh and so like at the end there alex is like

framing this commentary as being about how christians are more productive than animists or muslims even if the groups are genetically similar i would suspect that he's just making that up because i he goes on to say that he's not even talking about mainline glitterbug christians he's talking about quote real christians which is something that's only vaguely defined even by him if at all so i have no idea how anyone would be able to study that in order to produce productivity statistics for real christians first genetically similar animus is is prager you picking out the real christians and

then they're they're doing a a gdp basis on that it's a bizarre idea for uh like a pew research study i don't understand how that would work like one of those one of those buzzfeed quizzes what what kind of christian are you not real or real how productive are you let's go from there it's ludicrous and i'm pretty sure he's making it up and i don't really have any interest in discussing it my sense of it because i've listened to a ton of him is he's using productivity there as kind of a placeholder

uh to talk about relative value of people yeah there's that and i want to take a moment to discuss it because it like i said it falls in line with this thing that alex does all the time where he likes to create the perception that if there's a group of christians living next to a group of muslims or animists i guess in this case invariably the christian group will be upright great citizens and the muslims will try to fuck with them and then try and collapse civilization as alex has informed us is six months away that sounds right

so that is something that pervades a ton of his rhetoric not just this clip it's something that is is a piece of his worldview that he's expressing in the auspices of discussing productivity there but that's not what this is about and what makes this sentiment that he expresses in this clip particularly fucked up is like you responded to he uses the example of rwanda the reason this is a problem is there was that whole genocide thing in rwanda back in 1994 which was perpetrated by the hutu against the tutsi well it's true that some tutsi were christian

and some were muslim the hutu were a mostly christian group but the real issue here is not that and the real issue is this the religious aspect of that had very little to do with what happened the campaign of genocide against the tutsi people was a direct result of belgian colonialization in central africa when the belgian took control of rwanda from germany after world war one they found a unified culture that was made up of three distinct groups the tutsi hutu and toa people they had differences in physical characteristics and traditional

occupations but they existed as a single group in the days of like let's say 400 years back the tutsi and hutu lived in a symbiotic state the tutsi herders raised cattle on the land that couldn't be used for crops and the manure from the cattle would multiply the yields of the crops that were raised by the hutu farmers the belgians saw the differences between the groups as evidence of prevailing theories of the time about ethnic superiority this is to say that the majority hutu were mostly a peasant class while the tutsi were mostly cattle

herders and thus had more property and had physical characteristics more attractive to the colonizers thus the belgians believed that the tutsi were better people they provided education for the tutsi and established indirect rule over the country through them though they were a minority of the population making up only approximately 15 of the country in 1926 the belgians passed the more uh more to hand law which made it so only tutsi could be appointed to positions of power

and granted them authority over things like taxation the elite among the tutsi saw the benefits that came from going along with this system that the belgians had set up where they were the superior group who wielded all of the political power in the country and thus the ethnic status quo was reinforced internally by the 1950s hutu empowerment groups began to get organized such as the association for social promotion of the masses and the hutu social movement two groups that would combine in 1959

into the party du mouvement de la masse patiente hutu the party of the movement for the emancipation of the hutu naturally this made the tutsi elites a little bit nervous so they started their own group the new union nationale rwandese which would begin clashing with the hutu groups inevitably of course the clashes became violent and many tutsi went to exile whereupon largely hutu rwanda voted for its independence in 1962 from this point onward the tutsi that remained in rwanda were a harshly

repressed minority and those who fled before independence viewed themselves as refugees from their homeland and began launching guerrilla attacks from across the borders of zaire uganda and tanzania part of this was probably motivated by the fact that many of the tutsi weren't trusted in the countries that they fled to where they found themselves unable to successfully start a new life and wanted to go back the ugandan governments of both milton obote and established rules that made the rwandan refugees second-class citizens

they were subject to arbitrary detention by the police and were scapegoated for domestic problems which only exacerbated their desire to go back home between 1987 and 1990 the tutsi group called the rwandese patriotic front the rpf attempted to negotiate a quote unconditional return of all rwandan refugees and to accord all rwandese equal rights the the hutu president habari mani said that the country was full and would accept no more people so the rpf took up arms interestingly when trump visited the border this past

friday he said of immigrants and refugees quote we can't take any more of you our country is full very similar rhetoric that does never it never seems to exist in good places the fighting went on for three years and the rpf was on the verge of victory when foreign forces intervened to save the habari mani government these forces ironically included the belgians who 60 years prior had set up a brutally protutsi social structure only now to be militarily aiding the hutu government

and repulsing the tutsi from returning to the country they don't give a fuck these people do not care at all colonialism isn't great on april 6th 1994 president habiri mani his private jet was shot down near kagali airport the hutu blamed the rpf the tutsi claimed that the hutu extremists themselves shot down the plane as a false flag against the tutsi of course to this day it still remains an open question although there's pretty strong indications that as is so often the case the

arguments about something being a false flag seem like bullshit and the rpf probably did it almost certainly regardless what happened next is much less an open question to history in the next 100 days between 800 000 and 1 million tutsi were slaughtered by the rwandese army as well as the government-backed civilian militia the interhamway some estimates claim that seven out of 10 tutsi citizens were murdered in the genocide of 1994 and that doesn't even count the 10 000 toa people who were murdered

which made up approximately one third of their population after propaganda started circulating that the toa were aiding and abetting the rpf of course of course they did this piece of history is unspeakably horrible and the consequences of what transpired are the direct result and indirect result of colonialist systems that were put in place by the belgians alex can talk about how a christian african is great but an animist or muslim african is barbaric all he wants but that's a cowardly and idiotic way to look at the world that doesn't match up with history at all

also the belgians were christians of course they were now we also got to take into consideration about what the belgians did to the congo where king leopold II established a country-sized labor camp where he enslaved the natives to harvest natural resources like rubber and killed millions who didn't go along with his plans or just failed to do a good enough job officers in his army weren't allowed to waste ammunition because it was really expensive back then so they needed to prove that each bullet they used was used appropriately

to prove that each bullet did kill a person the practice of cutting off the right hand of the deceased was implemented of course enterprising soldiers started to realize that if they just cut off people's hands they could use the bullets for whatever they wanted like recreational shooting and thus the scourge of bodily mutilation of congolese citizens began the practice got pretty out of control and a lot of innocent people were subjected to arbitrary bodily mutilation at the hands of the ostensibly christian colonialist forces

this is in addition to the slavery the use of rape as a method of terror the floggings and torture the burnings of village the kidnappings of children the starvation all of that stuff because of the unspeakable horror he subjected the congolese people to king leopold amassed a staggering fortune of between one hundred and five hundred million dollars which has reportedly made him which did reportedly make him at one point the richest person in the world so i guess the argument the christians being pretty productive in africa might

they might have had a kernel of truth to it oh boy in 1908 word had gotten out about what leopold was up to and he was forced to relinquish control over the colony to the belgian government ultimately however the legacy of the butcher of the congo has lived on ten weeks after congo declared its independence from belgium in 1960 general mabutu cc cico led a coup d'etat and took over the country staying in power until a few months before his death in 1997 cico presided over one of the worst human rights records ever

routinely torturing and murdering political dissidents reportedly even feeding detractors to crocodiles at his palace it would be hard to draw parallel to the colonial days from the colonial day as to cico's rule but it's worth noting that he did have a habit of disfiguring the bodies of dissidents that he killed uh you know what i said that it would be hard to draw that parallel but what i meant is i don't know if that i can draw it i'll let the chicago tribune do that quote mabutu's critics say that his system of repression sprang from the

colonial history that set an awful example among other atrocities the rulers of the former belgian congo used to slice the hands of rubber workers off if they were caught misbehaving king leopold the butcher of the congo was a catholic so was mabutu cc cico or at least he was until some years into his rule when the vatican started to criticize his murderous habits and he decided fuck this i'm not a catholic anymore so also you may remember that paul maniforte and roger stone to profess christians made a whole lot of money lobbying for and

representing cico and his interests so this idea is a bunch of illusion alex wants to portray a world where there is a clear distinction between the behavior of christians as being civilized and good and the behavior of muslims as being barbaric brutal and destructive and this is purely an expression of bigotry sure there's plenty of examples of muslims doing horrible things in the history of africa and elsewhere but those horrible acts are no more a condemnation of the religion of islam and its adherents as the acts of king leopold are a condemnation of christianity

and the vast majority of christians who don't behave that way and don't think that's okay what's behind these atrocities is the lingering untreated consequences of a brutal racist dehumanizing history of colonialism and imperialism the west that alex fetishizes committed a horrendous crime against the native peoples of africa and plenty of other places and now he's blaming the victims progeny for the aftermath it's a pathetic and childish way to view the world and it's so incredibly important to

respect and understand the complexity of things like this the propagandists wish to make simple it's hard to discuss the lingering damages of the past that are still killing people in the third world today and the lingering benefits of those damages that the west has enjoyed it's far easier to say fuck it we're good they're bad that's because of islam but you don't get anywhere with that and it's absolutely mirrored in the way that so many of these people treat black people in

america now is like well you're not wealthy because you're not working hard enough not because we absolutely destroyed any possibility of your family ever accruing wealth and then forced you to stay in that situation and the fact that he's using that it's it is immensely suspicious to me even though i can't i obviously i can't make this statement 100% factually i can't see into why he did everything in his own mind but it is very important for me that he

specifically went out of his way to choose african nations and rwanda to make that comparison between christians and muslims because he's trying to take uh his his own racism out of it because if you're going to go to africa but accidentally keeps all of it exactly on full display exactly and he can't he can't say oh well you know in in america christian versus muslim because when he's he's going to wind up doing is saying white versus brown so he goes to he pulls this example of white

colonialism making black people good or bad essentially like black people in africa didn't have or africans didn't have christianity until it was brought to them right so i guess the it would be uh those who got along got in the program with us were good and those who didn't are bad exactly those who submitted to the colonialist missionary agenda foray they're productive right and those who yeah it's uh it's gross it's gross it's a good thing we don't see examples of that literally across the entire world where colonialists went

in redrew their borders and just fucking bailed on it until they felt they needed something and then just you know i'm just saying that indian pakistan were made by perfectly normal it's good stuff bullshit yeah it's all over the place all over the fucking place so um we know uh that alex is a uh you know he's an individualist and he hates the globalists because they are this they're collectivists they're you know he has an and randy and kind of a bend there loves trains but the thing that's interesting

is that alex we've heard him express similar things before he's like i am actually a collectivist i believe in the collective sure but their collective is a bad collective whereas my collective is a good collective course um and he talks about that in this next clip and then it goes pretty far off course i am the ultimate collectivist you will not find a bigger collectivist on this planet than alex jones and that's why i'm a total individualist because each of us is a cell and i've got to be strong and not be cancerous and i've got to stand against

the cancer and stand against the evil and be as strong as i can in what i do to try to lift up the entire system that's what christ does do words mean anything dan i don't think so do we do we even need them anymore i'm not sure but those last words really made it feel like alex thinks he is a christ i think so i think you might think he's an avatar of the christ i is he thinking that right now he's spending his 40 days in the desert not being on uh not being on social media jack why have you forsaken me

let my people go back on twitter you could really basically co-opt all like bible stories that to alex's struggle to get back to the promised land of social media i think that he does think that there is some of that whether or not he would ever put it that way i do think that he thinks uh he's a messiah moses trying to get back to twitter and i listen to the great burning wall and it keeps me from going on the internet the 40 they're like the lobes and fishes that's uh all the downloads of joe rogan's podcast

i turned nothing into millions of downloads yeah that's a possibility it's pretty fucked up i mean i guess i get i get what he's trying to express with the like i'm a collectivist but also an individualist i think i think that he's murky with definitions certainly but i'm gonna let that slide i was more interested in the idea that he's he's sort of comparing himself to christ yeah we just got to figure out who in his inner circle is going to betray him harrison smith harrison smith you think it's gonna be it's gonna be a

so in this next clip alex talks more about some demons and uh now that we know the plot of childhood's end let's see if we can't uh guess where this is coming from spoiler alert it's childhood this one's actually from howard's end right yes okay i has not seen or has not heard what god has in store just seconds in history's time frame we're just almost the finish line and the devil and all his minions are no you're not gonna have it you're not gonna have it you're not gonna have live extension you're not gonna have all the

dimensions no no no because they're all the failures the interdimensional scum the trash because they can't attach to the overmind they are the failures they're the scum that's that's the demons that he's referring to the viruses the program for us to kill ourselves that was actually windows every culture demons want you to hurt kids and burn down buildings and kill crops and have famine and starving people and death because it's a weapon it's a weapon fired into our psyche to make us destroy ourselves

it's a torpedo and we have to just say no we don't accept the torpedo we don't accept the operating system of the crazed demoniac garbage it's too bad top petty top petty is dead he said damn the torpedo yeah it's too you know if if only he was around when the the untersea boats were uh causing all kinds of problems damn you all they needed to do is just refuse to accept them no no it's like you stop it's like you're shaming a dog yeah hey do a torpedo hey germans so knock it off the other stuff

they're like the idea that they are the these demons are fallen and you know they can't connect to the overmind that's in there and that's from childhood zen yeah but even before that when he's talking about where at the cost of you're going to the stars and stuff like that and then these demons show up that is also directly from childhood zen the idea that we were having this weaponized space race and that's when the aliens stepped in because we were going to destroy ourselves

alex could read that and be like no no no we were about to invade their area we were about to become as great as them and so they stopped us from it as opposed to what's actually in the text they were going we were going to destroy ourselves and we were important to the overmind that we not destroy ourselves and so the midwives came in to assure that we don't destroy ourselves so alex is again just misreading science fiction and using it to make an argument about the real world which is fucked up although there is a part in childhood zen

where karellen tells the people that they humanity is not destined for the stars and that sort of thing like the idea that we aren't going to be making spaceships and traveling through space is our race is that's not our in our future our future is to become one with the overmind did you see what you guys did to the congo we're not going to let you fucking get out into space you guys are insane that would be an interesting way for it to go in the book children they're going to get to the overmind the rest of you are

fucked yeah i i think that i think that alex is kind of mad that karellen said that and that's weird because that's in a book yeah um so you know we have six months left until societal collapse he really tossed that off like it wasn't that big a deal i feel like that that would be a lot of your show you've been moving forward he doesn't really expand on it too much but i think he touches on it a bit in this next clip because the whole universe is like a giant spectrum

radio transmission you can dial in anything you want jeff free will how about you dial into god they are trying to collapse the planet right now to take everybody out works is that a nip and touch here everybody's got to be more involved than ever praying being involved in standing against globalism and the un and open borders and their entire plan whatever they're pushing it's death and destruction all the proofs there to oppose everything the un and cnn says and you'll do great the reason i kept that clip in is because again he's saying that like they're

going to collapse the planet i guess there's not really any more information about the six month time frame whatever um but well in that clip uh the episode we did about the deposition i was very uh specific to like defend alex against all these these psychosis uh headlines that are going around and i don't think i was wrong to do that however what he was describing well that was reported as psychosis and he did use that word is the idea that when he was younger he just trusted the media so much that he

thought everything they said was bad and fake what he's saying in that clip is the exact same thing he's saying the exact same thing as he in the deposition was presenting as his old mindset that he's learned was wrong now he's uh going out to break do whatever the un the opposite of the un and cnn says you'll be fine that's not good he's doing a mitch edberg joke what's that i used to do drugs i still do i still do but i used to too i used to think it was psychosis

well still is i guess yeah i mean yeah it's it's weird i would think that he would be more careful but i don't know why i would think yeah that that makes no sense no so alex talks quite a bit uh in the middle of this episode about how he's about to go to la he's gonna go take a trip to la and he's does this like i think you can guess what that means i think it means he's gonna be on rogan again so really god damn it pretty quick uh that's so annoying yeah i'm really annoyed by this i'm not sure if that is

what he's uh hinting but i think it is because what else would he be doing and what else would he be hinting at yeah i'm just really disappointed in that yeah really it's a such a bummer like i don't like feeling it's so much empathy for joe being in a weird one-sided friendship and then getting used by this fucking asshole well consider how much money he's making off this one-sided friendship and i think those feelings may go away a little bit fair

um and it also gives him so much clout in that like uh dumb world that dumb free speech absolution absolutism yeah community the idea that he still has alexon's like you're one of the good ones you're one of those people who you talk to anybody except people who are actually pretty far left it's just gross it is gross but um you know so he's talking about going to la and he's talking about how he was in la um and turns out he was i don't even

know how to set this clip up but i'll tell you that i don't believe it well whatever that biggest comedy place is there in la i checked the name comedy store whatever it's called they i got invited to go speak there next tuesday and i said okay i will and they got so many threats they said oh sorry you can't come speak here and by the way this is a place where you can do anything you want but see alex jones is verboten i don't i i don't know if they have lectures at the comedy store i mean how much time would he be getting

i don't what is he he's getting to like 130 a.m. slot he's getting a good six to ten like what are we talking about here i mean is he a paid regular now i think he'd probably irk a lot of aspiring comics is he sure he's not talking about the urvine improv i don't know i love the way he's presenting it though like i was invited to come give a speech come speak at this comedy store and look r.i.p. mitzi joe rogan's a big wig there you know he's a big figure in the comedy store world if alex wanted to come do whatever joe could or set that up no matter what no matter how much like protesting people didn't like you can't let alex do a set here like they still let

like fucking louis ck could come do sets all drop in every yeah they don't give a shit i think they i think they mixed him up with a young eddie pepettown i think that might be where they were a hard right pepettown it's ridiculous i was going to give a speech at the comedy store and they said no you can't do it but so i was going to be going to give a comedy lesson yeah i guess doug stanhope gave me a set one time so i'm not sure how much the comedy store exists as an anti-globalist entity where they would be interested in whatever speech he has to give i think i don't know who cares in this next clip alex makes a weird statement i guess i don't know he's talking about his sandy hook lawsuit and some stuff that some conversations he's had with

his lawyers it's very important to point that out because at the beginning of this clip he does say that this is his lawyers not other lawyers it would kind of make sense coming from other lawyers but since it's his lawyers saying this to him it's very weird you should settle and quit no i bet they are saying that though yeah i've had my own lawyers say listen there's no way you find yourself give me the mercer documents and i say i've never talked to the mercer's or got a dollar it's okay i know you get the money from them just give it to me what it's because the left ladies and gentlemen are children they never built a damn thing in their lives it's it's crazy tone anyways you built this whole operation you and i we built the info wars it's ours it's america and it's winning

the sale has to end in the next 48 hours free shipping store wide okay wait so his lawyers asked him where the mercer money was his lawyers his lawyers said there's no way that you're funding yourself with this pill sale bullshit where's the money coming from it's okay we're trying to defend you just we need to know what's going on you have attorney client privilege we just you can't lie to us or else we can't defend you that sort of thing and then alex is like and the reason is because the left are children yeah i did it's not the left these are your lawyers who who did you hire to represent you did you hire globalists to represent you these are your lawyers alex these are your lawyers and they are telling you we don't believe your money stream now i believe that probably

it might not be the mercer specifically but the fact that his own lawyers are like this doesn't add up what what's the deal makes me think uh it doesn't add up hey alex according to your uh revenue uh profit loss statement you lost uh 38 million dollars last year but uh it looks like you evened out and are in the black now i now this business of yours and i'm going to use really heavy scare quotes on right right what do you do what do you do well i always sell pills okay how many a lot of them like don't ask for my books and then my teeth and wings come out shit demon oh fuck they're a child you've never built anything did you yeah with the mercer's body to hold it all the shit my dad's oil money i would have gotten away

with it yeah so it turns out that alex is self-made and he's successful and it's not just because he's great there's actually reasons behind it which he explains in this next clip and then he does a rick flair impression which is great because we're recording this before i watch wrestle mania this evening that's lovely and uh so it's always great to hear alex do a bad rick flair you're looking at a true organic expression of the will of humanity to be free just like all the inventions and all the great ideas came from independent tankers and i just love how the left of all of them are like can it what show us how you're funded by trump show us who runs you show us what you wear you why you're so successful because i'm not a knuckle dragon low IQ in bread

piece of trash like you i'm a tinker you damn idiots all right all right not bad it's not a bad woo all right uh yeah he's not a knuckle dragon in bread idiot like us so that's why he's created his own uh pill business which is not really his own pill business as much as it is putting labels on other people's pills and then selling them to your idiot fans which is a good scam i mean i don't get it wrong yeah private label yeah him being able to work work that out is great hey um but i guess we are knuckle draggers because we don't sell uh boner pills we don't we should i don't think so no so alex in this next clip he's been bragging

about how he knowledge is my boner pill that's right your head is your biggest sexual organ yep brain i gotta um so alex is bragging about how he's got uh satellite feeds to other news organizations it's like what you get cable yeah i was gonna say it was a shit but what is that direct tv like what are we talking about here it's just trying to brag that he is like doing the things that other news organizations do which is fine um but he was during the break he was watching fox news and he saw a guest uh make a theory he had a theory about what trump is doing with the border and this gets uh interesting and the guest is admitting that well the borders totally collapsed and the border patrol and all the courts are overwhelmed and there's a you know six-year

backlog and so basically the country's wide open and so trump's saying he's gonna close the border just to hope that people think it's closed and don't come up here uh but it's all just a pr stunt that's dumb because the border's gone and i don't blame the president for trying to make people think you know hey we're gonna close it but unless he calls out a hundred thousand troops and unless he puts major pressure on the mexican government right now to stop this it's done the country is broken you break somebody's border it's over i think that's the six months uh that he's talking about i think okay from context clues i think that's what he means all right and that's what i'm getting in here is the u in plan to break countries is to set up refugee centers

brainwash communists and socialists tell them there's all this free crap send them to our countries in europe in the u.s canada new zealand australia where the leftist pick them up on buses and take them and enroll them on welfare in sanctuary cities and get them jobs and then skim money off of them and money laundering the democratic party is a criminal group they have converted to the lowest person in the democratic party now almost all of them are conscious criminals in aliens great movie paxton what's that actor's full name phil paxton says game over man game over what do you mean they cut the power of their animals man game over it's game over everything goes back to some

sci-fi reference that may or may not be like uh like actually related at all or it might just be something that just made me think of that he just he's got nothing he can ramble about the idea that there's these un plans but the only specific in there is a reference to paxton we can't remember his name in aliens that's it that's all he has this is this is exactly like childhoods end being behind his conception of the entities that are behind the globalists these demon these hiding demon alien figures that pretend that they want to do good but are actually here to destroy the world it's all bullshit all of it just goes back to him not understanding the difference between fiction and reality and assuming that all fiction is just reality presented as fiction because it's

lesser magic right it would be nice if he just if we just found out that he was a huge paxton fan he doesn't know his name yeah but i mean it'd be better if he just goes through all of the natural disasters in all paxton movies just like and you know how they're gonna do it tornadoes just like in that paxton movie be better if he was a huge john paxton fan who talked about basketball all the time because then the stakes would be way lower they would be lower so i think that that is sort of like another indication of like all this stuff is just based on uh faulty sources that he's pretending are much more serious than they are and so that's the sort of stuff that you just like eh fuck you alex get the fuck out of here but then again much like uh you know

earlier we were talking about all the childhoods and stuff and then we're reminded the stuff that is important him talking about these differences between christian africans and muslim africans again this last clip he's talking about all this the un planned to break up countries and we've got to bring troops to the border and it's just like alien the movie science fiction movie great movie you just all right whatever alex and it leads to a clip like this radio listeners are lucky they don't see this just type in women acid attacks or or or women acid islam and you'll see their whole faces burn off in the most monstrous things you could ever imagine millions of women every decade or so are killed in islam hell the family gets around and stones their mothers stones

their daughters they cut their noses off burn their faces off cut their clitoris is off when they're born and this is just standard islam um you've got uh all these different members of islam that have gotten to congress two of them and you've got uh you the other usual suspects that lead women's marches uh saying this is islam we need to keep doing it so alex said in that last clip that this is standard islam and then brings up omar and teleb uh and uh linda sarsour there is the third uh figure that he's mentioning with the women's march i prefer premium unleaded uh islam sure it's better for the it's better for your engines yeah for sure absolutely um so this episode's from thursday of last week on friday of last week 55 year old patrick carly uh carlin eo

was arrested after he called ilano mars office and threatened to kill her he reached a staffer who he asked quote why are you working for her she's a fucking terrorist and then he went on to promise to quote put a bullet in her fucking skull when he was arrested he told the police that he loved trump and quote hates radical islam uh radical muslims in government the next day after the man's arrest trump gave a speech in vegas for the republican jewish coalition where he said quote a special thanks to representative omar of minnesota oh i forgot she doesn't like israel i forgot i'm so sorry no she doesn't like israel does she please i apologize billionaire trump donor sheldon adelson was in attendance where he wore a red yamaka with the word trump on it

then trump called net and yahoo quote your prime minister despite the attendees being american republicans who happen to be jewish which may uh many have commented is way more anti-semitic than anything omar is being attacked for saying pure and simple there's no two ways about this these people are trying to get representative omar killed and it's it's disgraceful so in this next alex uh talks about that gay wedding that he saw in mexico again remember that story yeah he tells it again oh boy i mean i've told you i was in islamahara as an island off mexico there was a gay wedding at the hotel we're at and i watched for three days the gay guys try to kiss the ass of all these muslims that were there wearing burkish and the women would go get away from me get away get

away they would talk they would just and the gay guys would grovel oh god you're a muslim but guaranteed those guys probably hate me because i'm a libertarian i mean it's just it's like a flash to love your destroyers to love your usurpers to love those which destroy western civilization all the egalitarian freedom we have that these very people take advantage of and they don't care so muslims and he said standard islam so it's all muslims are as guilty of this as uh anybody else they're usurpers they're destroyers they are coming to destroy the freedoms of western civilization this is just disgusting this is there's no other way to put it this is this is repulsive uh rhetoric that's the sort of thing that only only leads to people being hurt yeah i mean what he's what

he's doing is it's like almost it's it's it's turning any kind of positive empathy into a betrayal like if the story that he's even presenting is true based on what he's even talking about right now the what happened was uh some gay guys apologized or we're trying to hang out with some muslim people that were there and the muslims didn't want to hang out and they were like no we don't want to hang out and they're like oh i'm sorry sorry apologies maybe you know like any kind of any kind of uh you surpers yeah anything other than outright uh anger and and hatred uh is the wrong way to hand to be in any interaction with a muslim person because what you're oh you're going to from alex's perspective you're going to apologize to these muslims for what for what oh invading their

space or whatever like that it's it's it's it's it's destructive of any kind of like oh just be polite right he's trying to take that away from people yeah it's uh it's a disgusting uh worldview i resent it greatly i mean it is just the it's the sort of thing that you need to do in order to make people not feel for a group of people yeah it's it's it's pretty bad exactly so we have one last clip here um and i'll say that it's because uh this is a little bit shorter and it's because for about an hour of the episode alex talks to his lawyer uh barns uh good work barns and uh man this guy is an asshole he's just agreeing with alex and talking about how like this case that we're in right now yeah is going to be the defining case about free speech we are going to take it all the

way to the supreme court and of course right yeah they're they're definitely gonna make it through the appeals court and the supreme court is gonna be like yeah we're gonna need to take this case it's an indication though of like you know that you can't argue this case on the merits you can only win theoretically if you twist it into being uh some sort of a uh case about speech itself yeah and unfortunately there's already legal precedent that covers all of the issues that they would be bringing up yeah but it's a good way to present it because it makes it so you don't even have to argue about like yeah i did all that shit right you know because you you can't say that he didn't say these things about the sandy hook families and shit like that i don't understand quite honestly

why he's not just like yep i said that it's beyond the statute of limitations or something like that right i don't understand why that's not his defense um i think probably because right now if if if we're talking about why why would barns even go on the show if not as some sort of advertisement to other people in this shitty sphere yeah if you need a lord because otherwise it doesn't make any sense for barns to go on info wars no it's silly so if he goes on info wars and he doesn't have some sort of rah rah like see i'm gonna take your defense and i'm gonna take it all the way up to 11 yeah i'm gonna i'm going to i'm working for you my client and if you if also if anybody has been hit by a or if do you have mesothelioma right because that's also a thing that i

class action lawsuit on a pill yeah exactly fen fen is back right or whatever yeah and even if it was like all this stuff we could still talk about it a little bit but i cannot stand listening to this guy because i don't think he understands how to use a windscreen okay like every single sentence that he says is falling out sorry not that it's uh he says a sentence and then like it's just his inhales are brutal it sounds so terrible that it triggers me and so like i was sitting reverse asmr huh they're like we record in my fucking apartment on senheiser mics that i paid 75 for five years ago and it still somehow isn't as obnoxious to listen to as a millionaire attorney in alex jones's million dollar studio and just like

i was listening to that i can't i was like i can't fucking do this anymore i love the idea now of reverse asmr videos to get people like force them into action you know instead of those relaxing right oh god i'm gonna kill somebody no it just gets me to turn it off that's all it does so in our last clip alex talks about how he used to like liberals that something changed you know the average liberal i knew growing up i liked i wouldn't call myself a conservative i wouldn't even call myself a liberal i was just an americana libertarian bob you can just define yourself if you'd like but just americana renaissance common sense but then something happened once obama got in the left now is the liberals are pro or

in gallipal more than republicans so something changed when obama got in could you be a little less on the nose could you be could you be around could you just be like oh it was around 2006 and the lead up to the election whenever hillary and obama were talking and then you have the two of them instead of uh black president well alex isn't defining his terms here and i think that's the main problem because what he's saying doesn't make sense if his argument that he was trying to make was this like during obama's term democrats became a little more complacent and turned a blind eye to a lot of things they should have pushed back against many of which involved war type issues like drones then i'd probably say that there was room for a robust conversation in what he was bringing

to the table but that's not what alex is saying he's saying that he turned on liberals when obama got elected largely because he saw them as becoming more pro-war than republicans and the numbers just don't back that up for instance a june 2011 study from the pew research center asked respondents that they favored the complete removal of troops from afghanistan 67 of democrats were in favor of the removal of troops as compared to 43 of republicans this study is great because it actually has a rebuttal for alex's likely uh like first objection to that and this i'm not really a republican their their research included a variable for tea party folk and it turns out that the tea party people were even less into troop removal than mainstream republicans with 42 percent only

being in favor of troop removal the study has a few other questions in it like whether or not the respondents thought that quote using military force in afghanistan was the right decision 54 percent of democrats said it was compared with 68 percent of republicans so even that doesn't match in september 2009 gallup ran a poll looking at the opinions of obama's proposal to send more troops into afghanistan 63 percent of republicans favored sending more troops into the war whereas 62 percent of democrats opposed the plan so republicans widely more in favor as of 2009 and they continued to 2011 a november 2015 gallup poll asked respondents uh asked if respondents supported sending ground troops to iraq and syria 56 percent of republicans were in favor

of sending troops as opposed to 37 percent of democrats so that doesn't make sense either a 2011 gallup poll asked if people approved or disapproved of military action in libya while it's true that 51 percent of democrats approved of that one the number was still lower than the 57 percent of republicans who approved of it one of the main exceptions i can find is a september 2013 gallup poll which asked about support for a military strike against syria in this instance 45 percent of democrats were in favor compared to only 31 percent of republicans it's interesting that this is the one instance where republicans were pretty clearly anti-war as compared to democrats and i'm pretty sure that there's a cool reason for that i don't know exactly

what it is but there's got to be something as some kind of fun fact reason yeah but as for the democratic support for the war if you want to call uh 45 percent like outright support for it fine i'll allow it but if you're looking for an explanation i think there's a perfectly reasonable one obama was seeking congressional approval for the action in syria as opposed to just attacking them saying quote while i believe i have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization i know that the country will be stronger if we take this course and our actions will be even more effective at the time of the gallup poll the senate foreign relations committee had passed a resolution authorizing the strike in syria it seems to me

that the higher poll numbers for this attack among democrats is less indicative of a support of war and more an indication that they felt that this was being handled in the appropriate way as you can see from that 2015 poll i cited earlier the democratic support for a war in syria was very short-lived and it turned around as was the republican opposition alex is just making shit up here to like again it's just his way of not saying i got really freaked out by obama becoming president yeah you you come up with a different way to present it democrats became pro war the numbers don't really match that up you could have a different conversation that is similar to that about obama's policies but you don't want to do that you want to say that everything changed

when that happened without saying we had a black president in that fuck with my head yep so cool just say black president i mean that's kind of why would just say it or why can't they just just say it we'll deal with that well i mean if you don't want to then you it behooves you to come up with a better argument because this one is shit right well that's that's why they're so it's so infuriating because the arguments that they present as it no no no it wasn't a black president well are all so flimsy and stupid totally and that's why i'm willing to make the uh sort of default like well and tell you tell me why i'm gonna assume that's case yeah and then when you tell me your your argument you look at him like that doesn't make sense so i'm gonna default back

to what i assumed and i'll i'll let go of my assumption that it's because there was a black president as soon as you give me something that holds up yeah exactly you can give me these you know like democrats became pro-war you can give me that right and i'll look at it but i'm gonna reject it because it doesn't make sense right once you give me something that does make sense i'll stop assuming that it's black president yeah that's where i'm at so we come to the end of this jordan and uh i am uh thrilled to have uh learned that most of alex's shit just comes from childhoods and i'm not thrilled about the where it leads him in terms of his rhetoric about uh non-white populations now that tends to non-christian populations yeah

that's the damaging thing that's behind this silly fucked up like this guy just believes science fiction is real right like that if that existed without the really dangerous scary stuff i think we would have a much more fun show it would be project camelot episodes all day yeah yeah you know we could just you know yeah it would just be that and i i understand i i told you up front of the episode that um i wanted to make this um april fourth and fifth i wanted to cover thursday and friday but i didn't have enough time because of uh this being a big episode and i don't like i'm looking at the time and i don't think it's a super long episode by our standards or anything so i think people could be confused and was like i had to read

childhoods end you know there's a that's more what i mean by i didn't have the time that was my homework yeah guys that was my homework yeah behind like behind like 10 minutes of our show was me reading a 200 something page book so that's why uh friday had to take us back seat yeah and if you're like that's the other thing i if you're basing your uh world view on sci-fi uh i i wouldn't choose the sci-fi from the 50s just on account of there are a lot of undertones behind the sci-fi of the 50s that wind up leading you to a place where you think well african christians and african muslims are different people i didn't get a ton of that from i'm not saying that it's from childhood childhoods end no but i just wanted to say that that was a pervailer a little bit

i mean you know he ended up moving to Sri Lanka because he was secretly gay and uh it was a much better environment at the time for uh for the uh for gay folk um and so i mean i don't i don't think that there's as much latent bigotry in uh his work as maybe uh i don't you know lovecraft or something like that you know there's the i i agree with your premise just not applied to child no no for sure and you weren't saying that but i just need to unnecessarily defend it agree so uh anyway we get to the end of this and uh i guess uh we'll be back on uh next episode but we have a website we do have a website it's knowledgefight.com that's right we're also on twitter we are on twitter it's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed jordan we're at uh well

not we that's you oh well yeah but uh we're on facebook indeed we are and we have a group called go home and tell your mother you're brilliant we are on itunes you can rate review subscribe all that good stuff please do um now we uh we we bounce out of this and i'll say uh that uh karellen the overlord that doesn't sound right never killed anybody i don't think so i don't think he killed anybody in the book he was a demon he was hiding his friend what is he what is he gonna do with those fangs if he's not looked like a demon is just from an evolutionary standpoint what are you doing with fangs if you'd never had to use them all right fine the un secretary general ricky storm bane or whatever something close to that uh you never killed anybody but one guy who

technically has is uh this guy alex jones andy and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding so alex i'm a first time caller i'm a huge fan i love your work i love you