Knowledge Fight - #3: The Secret of 2017

Episode Date: January 16, 2017

On today's adventure, Dan tells Jordan all about a report Alex Jones posted purporting to explain the Secret of 2017.  Topics covered include: Does Phish have one good song? Would Alex Jones be fun to hang out with late night at a dive bar? Can an external observer read the mind of Megyn Kelly? The declining quality in the food at Luby's Diner

Andy and Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I am Dan. I'm Jordan. And we are back for another installment where I, as a man who listens to too much info wars, explains what's going on in the wonderful, wonderful world of Alex Jones. To Jordan, who has absolutely no idea what the fuck is about to happen.

But you do know the world. I do. I've heard of it. You're a smart man. I have a passing familiarity with it. You're a man who likes to pay attention to the news, you're a man who has global awareness, some might say. Yes, yeah, I would say I am globally aware in the sense that I know about 40% of the

globe. That's fair. That's more than most. I'm just trying to give you some Bonafide days here. I have my expertise in listening to this. In Alex Jones. Yep, so you have to have your own expertise. You went to the University of Missouri, right?

No, no, no, no. And they didn't do a Alex Jones study. Where did you go? I went to the University of Missouri. I thought you met Alex Jones. He went to junior college and dropped out. I mean, he did well for himself. He's very much like one of those tech billionaires.

Or like Eminem. Stupid as shit. Rich as fuck and proud of it. Yeah. Quote from Eminem. Is that a quote? It's from a D12 song. All right.

Let's not fuck around too much here. Let's do this. We've got a lot of business to cover. So as you guys know, if you're eagle-eared listeners, you know that last week Alex Jones was on vacation. He was on break. He wasn't in studio and we had tons of these dingbat fucking co-hosts. We had the David Knights of the world filling in.

We had Roger Stone doing a day. We had Paul Joseph Watson hosting. And I don't want to cover those guys. So we're not, we don't have fresh episodes to cover right now, so to speak. But when this comes out, it'll be Monday. Alex will be back in studio, super excited about it. But while Alex was off, he sent in a lot of dispatches from the road. He sent in a lot of special reports.

And I think those are worth talking about a little bit. So that's something we're going to be covering here in this episode. Before we do, I wanted to check in because on our first episode, we listened to Alex explain that he was going to take some meetings. Yes. But he didn't want to explain the meetings, but the mainstream media could put two and two together. And then he very quickly put that two and two together and told us it was going to be

with Trump. Yes. I don't need to tell Trump. I don't need to warn him in person. He definitely doesn't need to get kudos or a pad on the back. Does not need that. No. He was even afraid to leave occupied Texas.

I assume they smuggled him out in a train like Stalin or whatever. I think he was in like a coal truck or something like that. A little blanket over him or some shit. But on this, when he calls in to give a special report, he has a slightly different take on it. So now he's even, he's his own insane caller. Yep. Okay.

Which he actually weirdly addresses in this clip. Oh, of course he does. This is Alex calling in and telling his co-host who's filling in David Knight explaining the situation. I've told people I'm on vacation on my family, but that's become a whole other conspiracy. He would not leave for a week. I'll be back next week. But regardless, I'm doing a work vacation.

But just while I'm out here in America talking and meeting with people, everybody I talk to basically is against political correctness now, almost everybody. There is a total awakening taking place and that's why they're so scared. We talk a lot of. So he's out there, he's taken meetings with people and everyone hates political correctness. Hooray. Every, everyone he talks, he even reveals in his own sentence why it is that it like, nobody else is talking to him.

If, if, if, if somebody liked political correctness and saw Alex Jones walking down the street, they just screamed pizza gate and then run the fuck away. Probably. No, it's pizza gate coming. It's a coming down the road. Pizza gate coming. Pizza gate coming. Like someone giving a warning that the cops are going to break up a party.

Like the 1940s stickball games in the street kids being like, Oh no, cops. So he's been telling people it's a family vacation, which he hasn't, which is its own conspiracy. Who's, who's conspiracying that who cares, who gives a shit where you're going. That is a really good point. But in his mind, everybody cares where he's going, right? It's so fascinating too. Like the idea, like sometimes you lie about things you don't have to, and I think that's

what he thinks he's doing in his head, not realizing that he revealed on his show what he was doing, not realizing that on his own broadcast, he was like, I'm going to go meet with Trump. Basically that's what he said. Yeah. Then he reveals that for a while he's been lying and saying he's going on a family vacation, which he hasn't been doing. Did he even lie about it?

Did he just now say that he was on a family vacation? He didn't warn anybody. I haven't heard. Also work. Cation has never been said in the history of the world, right? I've, I think I've heard that before, but I'm going to give him credit. He's just going to work. Sure.

He's just working in a different place. Yeah. He's, he's doing his work from the road and God bless him because there's a lot that needs to be done. It's, he is, he is our true, uh, traveling kung fu hero bullshit guy, bullshit master. Uh, so the legend of the bullshit master. So this episode is going to cover a video that he put out right before he left, uh, that is sort of, I feel like it's still the beginning of the year.

And I feel like, uh, you know, a lot of people have made resolutions and there's a lot of the year to look forward to as he made a resolution. He kind of does in, uh, at a certain point here, but he released a video called the secret of 2017. Whoa. And, uh, I feel like he already knows the secret. He knows the secret, uh, and this is a really, I think it's probably like a 20 minute long video.

I've cut out the parts that are superfluous, like where he repeats himself and stuff like that. So it's cut down to a 30 second clip. No, I couldn't, I had to leave in the funny stuff. Oh, okay. All right. Uh, so we're going to take a look at this, this video today, uh, this, this secret of 2017, uh, that I think is pretty indicative.

Like, if you look at this as just a microcosm of Alex Jones's broadcast style, it's him to a bucking tee. Okay. So here we go. We're going to kick it off. I remember back in July of 2016, seems like just minutes ago, but it was over half a year ago. I was in Cleveland, Ohio, covering the RNC.

So I want to be clear. I'm not putting in pauses. This is, that's Tom Waits telling a story, right? Like you and I are in a bar right next to Tom Waits going like just a little bit faster, Tom. Just a little bit faster, Tom. There's also a part of me that thinks like from listening to this, that Alex is itching to do drama.

Like he really wants to start doing dramatic model logs. It just feels like it. There's like, yeah, this St. Crispin's Day. Oh, also, we all know this video is that long. I'm not playing 20 minute clips. Don't worry. We'll be back sooner than that.

And I went over to the Ritz Carlton where the main Republicans were staying and I met with a lot of the different Fox News officials, their vice presidents, their programming people. Now keep in mind, I want to cut in here real quick to remind you that the name of this video is the secret of 2017. So just remember when he starts down this road, this is the first thought he had in his mind when he made a video called the secret of 2017. But you forgot to add the part where he said, the way we learn about the future is we look to the past.

That's almost Chris Christofferson. Oh, yeah. That's right. There's a, there's a gravel. I'm trying. I'm trying. It's, he's got a tough voice to imitate. No, not really.

I don't know if that's good either. I think you got to go a little bit lower. You got the cadence right. All right. And we talked about Megan Kelly and I said, Megan Kelly, this is only like six or seven months ago now. It seems like again, just yesterday, but also a lifetime ago, Megan Kelly is your bell weather.

If she can successfully convert your audience to hating conservatism, hating libertarianism, buying into worshiping this dead political horse, Hillary, then you've won. But I said, I think Megan Kelly is going to destroy herself in this battle with Donald Trump and the American people. And they agreed with me. They said, no, we're already seeing a rating slide. She had the top ratings on the channel. And now she's moved on to the Peacock network, NBC itself, and it's, you know, bad son, MSNBC

and CNBC and Microsoft and all the rest of them. And this is truly a train wreck we're watching, but it shows how she gets her hair done in Manhattan. She's beautiful little elf woman. There's an old lady to me and nothing is a lady. She's a soulless and she still believes. You were laughing over him calling her soulless soulless. Oh God, she's an ugly woman at souls.

This again and nothing against the ladies, nothing against the ladies, but I'm going to attractiveness shame you. Yes. Megan Kelly is a beautiful woman. She is. I disagree with her on her stances on race. Elf woman. Elf woman.

That's not even a negative. Is that? Yeah. I mean, are we calling her Zelda? Yeah. Are we going? Well, let's go with Lord of the Rings. The elf.

Sure. The most beautiful heroine is gorgeous. Dress up like elves. Yeah. Because they're fucking hot. Elves are a main selling point in this world of ours, I guess, but she goes and gets her hair done in Manhattan. She's a bitch.

Wait. This clip isn't done. Doesn't she live in Manhattan? Probably. Where else would she get her hair done? Go to the Bronx, you bitch. Take a trip. Take a trip up to Harlem to get your hair done, you hussy.

I don't fucking understand that either. That's crazy. But all right. You're done. Where you live. Yeah. Travel. Ah, you millionaire TV.

So host. Yeah. Elite in the system. So Megan Kelly, as the whole dinosaur media goes down, is emblematic of the fall of the peacock globalist narcissistic brainwashing machine. I think that's really the takeaway from all of this I can bring you. So this is the first clip, and it seems like it's a thesis statement. It seems like that's the thesis.

It does seem like there is more to go on this particular subject. They're 100 percent. But now before we go in, it seems that way. Were her ratings slipping? Didn't she leave as still the number one? I don't know. I don't know the statistics on that, but I know that they did offer her a fat contract to stay.

Yeah. Probably because she was sexually harassed by all of Fox News. Yeah, probably. Yeah. You got to cover your tracks a little bit. Yeah. I think that would be a smart idea. I think her numbers were slipping a little bit, but not like to a profound extent.

Okay. Now, has he ever criticized Megan Kelly in the past? I think so, yeah. You think so? Yeah. While she was on Fox News. Well, especially when she was the moderator of that debate and asked Trump some hard questions.

Oh, yeah. No, that was her fault. She couldn't have gotten in the line of fire with a good man. Uh-uh. You know, he's a good man. Don't fucking ask me questions. You know, these, these elves are coming up on our orange-headed toes and they are just getting in the way.

There is, there is this insane like overarching narrative that they have that is like the media are bullies and that like keeps coming up. And so like, I do believe that Alex would think that like asking Trump hard questions is bullying him. Yeah. And that's nuts. That's completely nuts. That's the role of a press that always goes back to everything.

He always says this and it's, uh, you know, everything they accuse of us of doing is what they're doing. Yep. That'll come up later. And what he's, what he's really saying there is if we don't do it, they're going to do it to us. Yes. So it's giving him a preemptive justification, uh, you know, in the same way that China and

Russia have reserved the right to, uh, first strike, uh, nuclear attack. Well, back in 99. I assume they didn't cancel that reservation, right? I mean, uh, the table's ready. Yeah. They've already got bread on it. So, uh, interestingly, uh, that is his opening volley of the secrets of 2017. Okay.

And it seems like maybe that's the direction he's going to go, uh, it might, it might not be the case. He has some more words about making Kelly though. Huge things are happening right now. And you look at these tarts, it's not that she's a woman, smart people, I know her women. Cause you have the archetype of the dumb guy, the dumb woman. I mean, maybe Kelly is the dumb blonde cheerleader who looked okay 10 years ago on Fox, but now just looks like an ugly witch.

See, that's, that's so unfair on a number of levels. God's name is he is okay. He's justifying. He sounds drunk. Right. He sounds drunk. That's a dude who is drunk. He's at the hotel bar.

He's sitting next to, like he's been on the road for a long time. He's sitting next to, uh, yeah, he's, he's drunk. He's just rambling. She's like, why is he being mean about her appearance? See the, the direction of all the Fox news people. She's the only one who seems intelligent at all and doesn't seem at all like a dumb cheerleader. No, no, more than anything. She seems like a, like a stern aunt kind of archetype.

Yeah. No, I disagree with her positions, but she does seem like a fucking whip cracking smart lady and substantial. Yes. She, she doesn't seem like, she seems like someone who, and evidence has borne this out in interviews. She's not just repeating things. No.

She's engaged in the interview and asking questions based on what the people say to her, which is why they hate her because if you, uh, respond with an answer and then you get a follow up question, you don't, you don't get the chance to just skip over it. You don't get to just insinuate something and then leave like a certain, I don't know, host of a certain show. So for the second time, I have a gravelly Texas accent. So for the second time in the span of three minutes, he's, uh, said, I don't hate women, but this woman is an ugly, he really went after it.

Why is he going after her appearance? She looks like a witch. That's such bush league bullshit. Yeah, it is. But it, you know, when you really get down to it, I don't know if he has many other tools. You know, like other than bush league stuff, yeah, insinuation and sort of insults. Yeah. But anyway, hold on.

We got more because her soul is ugly as you reportedly told friends, Oh, I'm ugly. I'm old now. I better join the liberals. She's wanting to go jump onto some failed ship because she feels rejected after buying into the mainstream media's lie that Donald Trump was this evil guy. This is just her thinking, Oh my God, I'm hated at Fox. I'm hated by the viewers. Now let me go to NBC cause those failures, those vampires are ready to get whoever they

can swindle into joining them. So that was just fan fiction. He assumed what she was thinking. Yeah. He's wait. So he thinks she told her friends that I'm ugly that she, she, so he, now he's absolving himself of any of those insults because he's just repeating what she said, except he's never heard anybody say that ever.

He's just telling us her psyche because he absolutely knows what she's dealing with. Oh, okay. All right. But is he everywhere at all times? Does he have everything bugged because it seems like everything he says is like, I know that these three people said this in a private room. And I know it because I have small little cameras set up wherever Megyn Kelly goes. Well, I mean, if you're a little bit drunk right now.

He does. He's listened to our show, which is nice. I love Megyn Kelly. He probably does. He's a big elf fan. I mean, think about it. Like these sort of insults generally don't come out of people who don't have some sort of feeling about a person.

Yeah. No, he's outright hate is usually covering up some sort of conflict. I mean, yeah, he must have, he must have loved her at some point when she was on Fox News, not just like in an interpersonal way. Yeah. That's a drunk man who feels like he's been left behind by the one who he's, she's the one who got away. So now again, I have to remind you, and I'm going to constantly remind you, this is the

secret of 2017. He has spent the opening 10 minutes. We're on 10 minutes. No, no, no. Okay. He's about the, we're at like 20, but of course we are. He spent the opening like four because we have the focusing abilities of somebody who's taking crack speed and is on a drink and he's doing Monty's for Monty.

So he's taking up the beginning of the secret of 2016 just to personally attack the appearance of Megan Kelly over and over again and assume what she's thinking. Yeah. But that's not really what it's all about. It's also about how good a man Alex Jones is. Oh no. I'm just an average person who has a will and who's justice bound and who wants to promote freedom.

Not that special, but I am special and that I don't join every peacock organization. I don't want to go, anybody else is successful like me. Almost everybody. They go and there's weird functions and dinners and fake charity events where you walk down red carpets and they have people there to take photos of you just so you feel big. Like the whole family fair business. Yes. Vanity man.

That means nothing to me. I'll tell you what means something to me. I've probably been in Luby's cafeterias that are here in Texas, a few other states, 500 times my life. Now you might think that this is going to a I support local business. I'm really hoping I'm hoping there's one redeeming factor in this long drunken speech. No. Okay.

It is long and seemingly drunken. Okay. But he is about to tell a story that never happened to illustrate why he's a great man. Okay. And so we're back to the spaceship car. 1000%. Okay. But just strap it in.

Strap it in. I'll I'm going to put the microphone down. Yeah. This is what I'm going to do. This is take a sip of champagne and enjoy some bullshit time. Alrighty. I mean, I grew up when I was a little kid going to him in Dallas and it wasn't until about six, seven years ago that I'd go to a Luby's and I'd hear old ladies in the line

who had always been in line with us. I was a little kid going, I don't have the money for the Louie and their little purse bags and I started getting tears in my eyes because they weren't saying this for me. They were talking to their old lady friends like they didn't have money for food. This is their one day out a week to get this food. And I didn't want to make a scene or anything, but after this happened a few times, I didn't say how I'm getting all these people's food and it wasn't that I was some angel or whatever. So I want to, I want to break.

How old was he again? What did he, what did he say? No, this is currently, this is currently he's been going to Luby's his whole life for 500 times or so. Yeah, but he, he, he, he, see, okay. So here's why this didn't happen. I don't think that any number of reasons could be why this didn't. I don't think Alex Jones isn't possibly a charitable, nice man.

That's entirely possible. Yes, but this story didn't happen because no one goes to a restaurant and being like, I can't pay for the food. You stay home. Yeah, but this, but this is, they're one day out a week too. He's again, this is making Kelly's thoughts. He's assuming he has no idea. Okay.

All right. So, okay. All right. He buys them all food though. He's a good guy. I know he's a good guy, but so this has happened a few times apparently in different Luby's or in the same Luby's. Well, and if it's in the same Luby's, does he know these people's names?

Can he give us any details about them other than their, their old women crying? You gave your son a job. Why don't you let one of these old bitties get in and do a news report. They could probably tear down Megan Kelly way better than he could. It would feel better. Yeah. I would be less offended by it. Anyway, the clip's not over.

It was that my whole life I'd gone, there's, I mean, I have early memories of being on like Luby's and Dallas. I'm like two years old and I never heard people bitching and complaining they couldn't pay for the food. And the food was lower quality. The food was even cheaper, but inflation and all the lies and I saw the news saying, Oh, there's no inflation. Our economy's great.

Obama said we had the best economy we've ever had. So now he somehow relates this story to Obama also inflation. Also the food is worse now, but I've kept going the food is worse now. It's cheaper, but there's inflation. Yeah. I don't understand those. Yeah. So that is, that is a twisted just that's a pretzel of a thought again.

Like you're getting like this is the secret of 2017. Megan Kelly is ugly and insecure. So she ran away to NBC Obama ruined the economy by increasing inflation and directly going after Luby's and Alex Jones is a good man because he overheard some old women talking about not being able to pay for food. They ordered and they had coin purses. I guess so. So this, this is in the fifties.

This is supposed to be now, but he's still referencing coin purses from a, have you ever been to occupied Texas? I have never been to occupied Texas. You'd know there's a lot of coin purses. There's a lot of coin, but I, you know what that, that, yeah, I can see that now he gets. I don't know when Texas is in the world. It's in the fifties. Yeah.

Constantly. It's like Pleasantville. Right. So now here's where he gets a little bit off the chain. Obama said we had the best economy we've ever had in between speeches saying you can't have cars or air conditioning while he's on a jumbo jet and playing golf a hundred days a year and sitting around delusional because he's black. So it's okay to say black people got to be poor and watch their unemployment double.

He was chosen by the sick inbred corporate blue blood white people on average. You want to get down to bashing white people? Yeah. Most of these folks are white running this thing who are playing us all off against each other to screw us over. And we got a bunch of narcissists who want to be on their news, their shows, their channels to feel like we've arrived. So we'll sell our own family out to be part of them.

Yeah. I feel like I need to write down notes to see. Okay. You're not here so you can't see it. He's playing these clips on his phone and in lieu of actually having anything to look at, I've just been staring at his phone. If you need to take notes, there's a piece of paper. I do because I don't understand where he went.

That was a what? Where did he go? That was a crazy triple. Where did he go? Yeah. That was an insanity triple axel. That was the Tony Hawk hitting a 720 of random ass shit. Okay.

So because Obama's black, he can tell black people that they should be poor. Yeah. That's one thing that's like. I don't remember him saying that, but I don't understand where you get off saying that like because he's black. It's okay. I know he's he's not saying that literally he's saying that the world thinks that right, which is also not.

Well, but that's that's his preemptive. Like nobody can call me a racist because Obama's already even more racist than me. Double reverse racism. And then nobody's talking about that. Everybody's just coming at me. Now the cars and microwaves thing. I don't know. It was air conditioning.

Yeah. He was telling people they can't have cars or air conditioning. That's an old, that's an old chestnut of Alex's actually that refers to that's like a climate change thing. Right. Yes. It refers to Obama telling third world nations that they can't have cars and air conditioning. And he didn't really tell them that as much as it is.

I feel it. That would be an interesting thing to read in a speech from Obama. Uh, guys, no cars. This is an uplifting conversation before we begin. No cars. Zimbabwe bitches. Zimbabwe. It's feet for now on its feet from now on.

I think as I looked into this a while back because it was one of those that I was like, there's no way that's accurate. There's no way that's accurate. And it was about climate change. It was about like, as you're modernizing, we should find better ways to modernize than the ones we've used in the past, which is a very sensible thing to do. But you know, it's easy to paint with that broad brush and say like, Nope, third world countries, no cars.

It is really easy because he did it in 20 words. Yep. So now we get into, at the end of that clip, he was talking about how, uh, everyone wants to get involved with these peacock networks. Yes. Uh, and he doesn't, which actually, I'm going to say this, it might come up a couple times. I believe him. Yeah.

No, I agree. And God bless him. You know, like, do you think, do you think anybody's offered him a job? Uh, no one bigger than he is. I don't think. Okay. I don't think maybe at some point in the past, like Fox news might have or something like that.

But no, I don't, I don't think I, do you remember when Michael Savage had a show? No, I don't even know who Michael Savage, Dr. Savage of the Savage nation. No, no idea. Savage nation is a horrible, like it's, it's, it's like Alex Jones, but with outright hate from an old Jewish dude. Okay. Name whose actual name is Michael Weiner, but, uh, he calls himself, it's a good change. He called himself a good change.

So he has this show called the Savage nation because Wiener nation is very much not the way to go. It's Wienerville. Mark Weiner. Mark Wiener is going to sue. Right. Right. Right.

So he's a, he has this, he has this talk radio show that I would listen to all the time. Although Anthony Wiener would totally crush a Wiener nation show. Oh, he would love it. Yeah. He's going to go to prison probably. So he can have Wiener nation in there. Yeah. But, uh, Michael Savage, Wiener nation state penitentiary, uh, Michael Savage is a amazing

storyteller. So he would tell these stories about his daily life that we're engaging and full of detail and he was really, really good at broadcasting. Unfortunately, he was a hateful bigot right and Fox news gave him a show like around 9 11. I think they gave it to him before, but then it was canceled pretty close because he was so, I imagine his anti-Muslim bigotry would have gone way too far even for them. He made a guy cry on air Jesus who was Muslim, who was just like, uh, you know, trying to

have an, like a debate about stuff and he was just like, I hope you die towel head kind of show. Whoa. Yeah. He also had a, like a gay rights activist on and he told him he hoped he'd die of AIDS and shit like that. Yeah. Uh, and so like they gave him a show on Fox news and then had to cancel it cause it was

fucking like, oh, oh, yeah. And I don't think Alex is nearly as bad as Michael Savage, but I think, I think those networks, I think those networks learned a lesson from that and it was like, okay, and even Rush Limbaugh can't have a TV show cause we'll get sued. Yeah, but he does do the live broadcast, but he does it on his own. Okay. I didn't know that that's not through a network. Okay.

Or if it is, it's not like CNN or MSNBC or Fox or anything like that. What would, so if he, if he did go, if Alex Jones did go to a network TV show, I assume he would lose just about all of his listener base. Like do you think they would go with him? I, I, I think the, I mean, it depends. If you went to like a cable network, I think he might be able to pull off some of the bullshit that he says, but no, yeah, I think he'd probably, he'd have to lose a lot of his, uh, independent credibility that he has.

I mean, he's gone on 25 years of yelling at every single possible news outlet. Well, we're going to learn here in a minute, it's going to be 22 years in April to be specific. Sorry. But, uh, the point of this was, I do believe him when he says that he doesn't want to go to these networks and when he says that he, what he wants to do is what he's doing. I believe it. Yeah, absolutely. I believe that a hundred percent.

Uh, now. So we have agreed with Alex Jones on one thing so far. I want, I just want to give him his proppers whenever there's like, whenever he's being straight up, let me straight up. Yeah. So now he goes on to talk about other stuff that is maybe more dubious. So let me give you the newsflash. I've been on air 21 years, almost 22 years.

In April, it'll be 22 years and I don't say this to say I'm some big badass. I say this so you realize that Wall Street, Madison Avenue, all of it have nothing to offer you. It's a fraud. It won't fulfill you. I've been in major movies. I didn't realize early on I was getting a little offer to join them and maybe I wouldn't. What?

That's the drunk moment right there. Yeah. That's the drunk moment. Maybe it was. Maybe it was. That moment of self-reflection. That's gorgeous. Yeah.

So I actually hear this, this clip is a roller coaster for me because I'm still agreeing with him. That idea that Wall Street has nothing to offer you. Yeah. It's like, yeah, absolutely. Independent as fuck. This is LP shit. No.

I'm on board. The only thing that I, so far the only thing in that sentence was he's not saying this to make him sound like a badass because that's exactly why he's saying it. Right. And I've been in major movies. I went to IMDB and did a little research. What major movies? His three credits.

Okay. If you don't count the documentaries that he's done because he did like loose change and shit, but he directed those or funded them. The three movies that he's been in as an actor. Major movies. Well, he was in two Richard Linklater movies. Okay. He was in Waking Life as the guy driving around in a car screaming in a bullhorn about how

humanity is too good to be taken over by, uh, imposing forces. Linklater fucking cast that right. Well, but Linklater comes from Austin and so he knew Alex Jones when Alex was a, like a public access host. Okay. So whenever he started making movies, he always had like this image of this guy in his head. And so also he was in a scanner darkly, another one as a guy yelling in a bullhorn. Both rotoscoped.

Uh, yeah. And both characters who are crazy people screaming on the street in bullhorns. Yeah. Then he was in a third movie called Amerageddon. Okay. Here are the things you need to know about Amerageddon. He plays a minor role as a politician. It was directed by Chuck Norris's son.

And the movie also features info wars as a media outlet that tells the truth in a sea of lies. David Knight plays the broadcaster on info wars in the movie. So Alex Jones being in this movie kind of is PR like being in it is, it's not a major movie. Also it's Amerageddon. You know, also do you want to, do you want to hear the plots and ops? I God damn it.

I want to, I want to see this movie. I watched the trailer in its wacky town. Where can, where can we, can we find it anyway? The trailer is on IMDB. Right. You can find it there. But the actual movie. I don't know.

I don't want to watch the whole thing. Oh, I want to watch it. So bad. It seems like a left behind kind of thing. You know, it's a, but. Oh no, of course. I want to get as LSD as possible and ride that out. Here's the plot.

A fictional depiction of a future where in a globalist terrorist organization aligned with the United Nations to disable the United States power grid and institutes martial law, it will take a dedicated family of patriots armed with strong survival skills and the remains of the second amendment to save America and reclaim its freedom remains of the second amendment with a big plot point in the movie that I took from the trailer is that the army goes around and individually takes people's guns. Wow. Which, but all that stuff, that entire plot is just basically the wet dreams.

Yeah. That's Alex Jones. Yeah. So of course he's going to be in that movie. That's every fear of Alex Jones. Now, but, but why is he obsessed with the power grid? That's the thing that keeps coming that keeps showing up here is that he thinks that the power grid is the only thing between us and you are in utter zombie chaos and fairness

to him. I don't, from things I've read, I don't know, I'm not an expert, but from things I've read, the power grid is fairly vulnerable. Okay. That could be attacked in a way that would leave us in a fairly desperate state. I mean, like it is, it is something that could have, and you don't think about all the implications of it. Like there's, there's, it would have a ripple effect that would go through like internet

going down, markets would, would suffer from it, the ability to, you know, send food around. There would be, if you're going to choose a paranoid fantasy, that's not a terrible one. Yes. I, I understand that, but it's much better than like bird flu. The thing that he like, I, although he was scared of, of course he was, uh, in a way that he was not scared of the Y2K bug somehow, um, okay, I should say bird flu was a false flag.

Okay. All right. What about swine flu? There's a false flag for bird flu, uh, mad cow. False flag for swine flu. Oh boy. They're all, they're all, it's all the same shit. It's like a communist Chinese resting doll, nesting doll.

Nesting doll. You can't say Russia. Um, but, but here's, here's what I think boggles my mind is that in like, if the globalists do this, yes, that will destroy them more or so than anybody else. Yeah. But if they don't understand that the markets are all so interconnected at this point that if you were to take the markets down, like if the Dow dropped, what, what would you even consider?

Like now it's a little bit, a little bit, a billion, a billion points. If the Dow drops cause we're a little bit under 20,000, if it drops to 15,000 because of a power grid meltdown, the entire world falls apart. Yeah. We're all fucked. We're all fucked. And that's because of 15,000. Yeah.

Exactly. There's a lot of room to drop. Which is still twice as good. Yeah. I think that his argument that he would make again, I don't like to put words in his mouth, but he would say that the globalists, since they know that they're going to do it, they've made preparations for it. They have underground bunkers.

They have supplies and munitions and stuff like that. They can hide it out while the rest of us kill each other off in the streets. Why would we kill each other off in the streets? Because hunger sets in and you become an animal. Have you, have you ever, okay, do you know how this happens in small scale situations? I don't. I feel like how when Russia just invaded the Ukraine, I can just call it Ukraine, right? I don't have to say.

Why is the Ukraine? I think it's from risk. Okay. I think it's actually from Seinfeld. The Ukraine is weak. The Ukraine is weak. Oh, that could be it. Yeah.

Yeah. No. So this happens. The power grid goes down or in situations like, I mean, God, any number of the places that we've blown up over the years. What always happens is not everybody starts killing each other. What always happens is people actually go, oh, now we're all in this together. We are all trying to survive.

So all of a sudden black markets start showing up where it's like we can get food that we can't get through whatever channels that are normal because inflation has exploded. Well, Jordan, that's stupid because optimism doesn't sell survival supplies. Oh yeah, you're right. Paranoia and fear is really the only marketing force that works when your business model is set up to scare people. You're right. You're right.

Anyway, Alex Jones has, like I need to do a way better job of like labeling these clips. This one's just called integrity ramble. So enjoy. But the later offers were you want to book deal every year for $3 million. You want to be in major motion pitchers up to $10 million a year. You want $10 million three year contracts for radio. We're ready to write the ticket. You will be the next rush limbo before they got back.

And I told them, no, they said, I am the president of programming at this major network. I don't make $2 million a year. You're going to turn down $3.5 million a year. I said, you're damn right. I am. And it was hard to do. That didn't happen. No.

How much does he make? He doesn't make $2 million, but I assume that he threw out two, meaning it's a 1.8. No, no, no, no, he was, he was doing that as role play. He was being the head of another network offering him a job. Oh, so the head doesn't make $2 million. And he's so excited about Alex Jones, he's offering him $3 million. Which means if this head of a network isn't making $2 million a year, that's a tiny network. That's a really small network.

That might be like, like QVC. Yeah. But even with stock options, you know, you're going to be fine. Well, we're just talking liquid. That's a good point. I'm sorry. I wasn't, I shouldn't have added net worth into this. I used to work at a lab and the owner, like not even the owner of the lab, but like the

head of one of the departments in the lab made like a million a year. So like the idea is a fairly big lab, but like the idea that the head of a broadcast network isn't making $2 million a year is bullshit. Yeah. I mean, are we talking programming head? Because that's probably what he's, he's not talking about CEO of the network. That's a fair point. He is skimping on the details.

Right. Yeah. So we would be looking at, I don't know, let's just throw out a Weinstein for the major motion picture. Are you kidding me? They make way more than $2 million. I know, right? They make like $100 million a year.

Yeah. What is happening here? So anyway, he has more about his, how much, but before we go any further, how much do you think he makes? I couldn't possibly guess. I could not possibly guess. It's very mysterious to me because I don't think I actually have done a bunch of research in the last couple of days about his advertising model, which we'll get into on a future show.

But like, I don't understand where the money is coming from necessarily in less, in less millions of people are buying these weird supplements. I don't like, on his show, there aren't a ton of ads on his website. There aren't a ton of ads. So I don't know what's going on exactly. And like shows like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, these types of shows, they actually had way smaller audiences than you think. Yeah.

They were being propped up by billionaire Republican investors for the longest time. And as a propaganda wing. Yeah. And like, even if the show is unprofitable, it's to their advantage if they have a fear mongering monster throwing everything at the wall to see who's going to do what. It's conceivably the, like, I think they would look at it as like sort of the antidote to NPR or something like that. You know, and that had been the model for a very long time.

I think it's entirely possible. The antidote to NPR is just coffee. That's the. Pick it up. Yeah. Hey guys, guys. Speak quickly. I think he might be getting some sort of money from somebody, some like angel investor or

something like that. Okay. Or it's possible that tons of people are buying the supplements. I don't know, but. I think I would say that a lot more people are buying the sub supplements than you would think. The amount of money that it would take to run his operation is big. Yeah.

How many people does he have on staff? I mean, if you talk about just in front of the camera personalities, there's at least like seven and then there's got to be some behind the scenes crew editors because he puts out like so much fucking material. Yeah. Like it. Yeah, but you can still do. You can still do a bare bones kind of operations because it is it is like single camera on him.

Right? No, I haven't seen a studio. It's gorgeous. Okay. It makes me fucking so. But like he puts out four hours of the Alex Jones show on a daily basis. And then he has the info wars nightly news, which is like another two hour show usually hosted by like Leanne McAdoo or one of the other still a made up name.

I love it. I love her so much. She is. She sounds like a country music star. Right? Yeah. From the like the classic outlaw day. Yeah.

Yeah. But she's got big outlaw country. She got big old titties. And I hate to say that because we just got done critiquing Alex for his but that's that's more just a reference to the days of your sure. And I would never I guess I just did. I don't know. I don't think that's a value judgment there so much as it is a stereotype.

It may be. I think we're pulling from several well-known people from that era. My point is I just want to, you know, call myself out whenever there are things like that. You know, we're doing a pretty harsh criticism job apply it to myself as well. That's true. Anyway, we need to be held to a higher standard than drunken Alex Jones speaking of high standards.

My integrity. It's like saying, would you give up your eyeballs for a billion dollars? Frickin hell no. Dude, blind. I've got a billion dollars. No way. Totally would. I will not give up my soul for any amount of money.

That isn't some rocket scientist badass cool hero move. That's a normal move of somebody that's awake and alive. It isn't hard to say no to this. That's what I don't get is that it's so clear to me. Now let's be frank. Info Wars is leading the world in game changing, trailblazing resistance to this, but I don't understand why we're, why we're king. I actually feel pathetic.

I feel dirty. My half ass attempt at this is the best we got. Pull my eyes out with pliers. I get a billion dollars. No. Take my soul, who I am, what I stand for, for money. So this is where God bless America, Lee Greenwood just kicked in, but do you see at the end there?

That's really where I think he's itching for drama that like, yeah, take out my eyes for a billion dollars. That was the independence day speech. That's what that was. Yeah. That's the independence day speech to a T and he really seems to think that this taking out the eyes for a billion dollars that he's just suggested himself is a literal offer that someone's made.

Well, I mean, why, and also what would they do with those eyes? They probably put them in with the fetuses that they've harvested and a pizza gate and try and read. Well, what I would do is put them into an Alex Jones robot. Oh, that'd be great. So then you could look into. So the eyes are the windows to the soul. That's true.

We all know this. Yeah. You put them in an Alex Jones robot. You've already stolen his soul if you steal his eyes. That's true. That makes perfect sense. I think, look, you first came in with the Alex Jones is drunk theory, which is amazing. And then you come in with the second theory.

I think you're killing it. I think, I think I have short circuited another note you made the rocket scientist badass move. Uh-huh. When has anybody ever described a rocket scientist as a badass? I don't know. Are we talking Armageddon or Elon Musk is not a rocket scientist. He could be.

Give him a rocket. I don't think he's a badass. It's either. Yeah. It's debatable. But those guys weren't rocket scientists either. They were rough necks. No.

So oil men. Is there, is there any rocket scientist badass that you can think of? I can think of one. Okay. He was a guy who was a contestant on the second season of Survivor. Okay. He wasn't second season. It might have been like the fifth.

He was pretty cool. He was fucking hot as shit and he was a rocket scientist. That's, that's pretty badass. Yeah. Oh no, I can think of one. He probably fucked like four people on the guy who helped work on, on the Manhattan project who is also a Satanist. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. Read up on this dude. I can't remember his name. So he was a Satanist rocket scientist who got mixed in with Alistair Crowley. Oh, it's easy to get mixed up with Crowley. Oh man. His story is absolutely bananas. Do you remember what his name was?

I don't. Um, I think if you search Manhattan project Satanist, it's probably easy to find. So the other thing that I think is fucking gorgeous about this clip is in the same way when earlier he was like, that was when they were trying to get me into the club. Maybe they weren't. There's, there's the same moment of insecurity here where he's like, he's like, I don't think that what we're doing is that great. That was super.

My half past attempt is the best. Is he okay? I'm worried. The name of the rocket scientist is Jack Parsons. Okay. Oh, I know that name. Yeah. Read up on him.

He's fucking batshit. All right. I would consider him a badass. But do you think he's a celebrity? Um, well, I didn't know his name. So probably not. Well, that's good because Alex has some bad things to say about celebrities. Okay.

And you, you're nobody cause you're watching the TV and it's some beautiful people up there that are totally anorexic, totally unhappy that managers about to kill them total mafia running it. But just make a look at that. Well, I don't have that big house and a hundred Kardashian bags in my closet and I don't, it's meant to make you feel small to think these people are God and none of it means anything. See now here's the thing. I totally agree with him on that.

I do too. I 100% agree with him. He absolutely. No, this is a, this is a drunken introspection. It kind of is. This is him kind of just like, he may be in a, an actual confession, but like if there was a, if, if you, if there was just a fucking priest on the other side of this wall, just him going like, I don't know what it means anymore.

He's my half asked attempt is all this world has. I'm not even a bad ass. He's like maybe half an hour of tape away from saying, I'm not sure the globalist. He's making this up. He's so close. But yeah, I think it is important when he says things that are like, yeah, I'm into that. No, it's important to give him some credit and like the idea of celebrity worship is

kind of a toxic idea. Absolutely. But I think it's. And he absolutely nailed it whenever he likened them to gods because that is kind of what we do. Instead of having a pantheon, no, it's, we have celebrity culture now at the same time. It's wrong of him necessarily to blame the celebrities for the situation they're in. And secondarily, it's wacky to be like, they got agents about to kill them.

It's like, okay, well, I mean, he's got to go wacky. The fund. The fund. He's got to take the turn and awesome. The foundation of Alex Jones is understanding of celebrity culture is that everyone who's famous has gone through like MK ultra conditioning and they're all ritualistically abused. All right. Maybe that's not fully what he believes, but there's kernels of it and that they have

handlers that will kill them if they get out a lot. And that's why people like Whitney Houston died. Okay. Which to be fair, there's a little bit suspicious in the bathtub. Marilyn Monroe. Of course. Absolutely. She's the original, right?

I don't know. There's probably people before that, but she's, you know, she's a big one. Anyway, agreed on the celebrity worship stuff. This clip is not over and it gets weird. Excellent. It is further proof that he might be weird. It doesn't get, it doesn't get. Okay.

That limps into his psyche and what life he would like to be living and it's strained. Holy shit. Yes. Please. Okay. You might have to put the mic down because I think you're going to blurt laugh. It's all completely empty. I don't, I don't say this on a power trip because I feel dirty even saying it.

I've been to the top and I've been at the bottom and I say, I'm at the top and I've been at the bottom. It's all upside down sitting in a farmhouse with fields around you with your family and growing food and being a good person and knowing your neighbors. Transcends all of this. Now keep in mind, we had to finish the clip, but he's crying, right? He's crying. He's totally crying.

He's, well, he's doing his, what I think is fake crying is what's going on. All right. So he's doing the like, that sounded like a real sniff though. He's doing the hand over the face and they like kind of noises, but yeah, it, he's presenting crying. Gotcha. So anyway, here's the final part of his thought. And this whole system is there to destroy the destiny of the species.

There wasn't much left there. I thought, I thought there was more. It's just a farmhouse. Destroy the destiny of the species. So all of us are supposed to be agrarian apparently. Uh, yeah. Um, I mean, and that's, if that's your fantasy, I mean, so to me, the first thing I thought of was he thinks of himself as Russell Crowe in the movie gladiator.

That's what's happening. Or any number of weird old-timey fantasy movies. That's true. That's true. Can you toss me my coat safely without knocking this over? Absolutely. Thank you. Um, this is perfect, uh, podcasting, right?

Sure. Okay. So he sounds so fucking depressed. He does. He sounds so sad. And that whole, I've been to the top, I've been to the bottom thing seems like an alcoholics anonymous meeting. No, cause he's talking about show business when he says, I've been to the top, he knocks

the desk. He's like, oh, he's right here. Okay. This is the top. All right. And that's why he says it's upside down. Right. Being, being famous and in the system, that's the bottom where he's at as the top baby.

Now here's something that I want to propose a potential wait, but he's been to the bottom. Mm-hmm. Yep. But he has, he was in waking life. Oh, okay. Well, that's true. That's true. That's true.

He was in America. Three major motion pictures. He's had suggestions of, we'll give you a $3 million book deal every year. Yeah. So, I mean, that's the bottom three year contract for 10 million. Yeah. They offered him a lot of Alex Jones leading man material. Maybe they didn't.

Maybe they didn't give me that. I don't know. So, I think, I think this assessment that he's pretty depressed might be right on. And here's what I want to suggest in terms of, if we look at the narrative, so he dropped this before he left for break, right before he left for break. This is right before he left. Yes. And I think that maybe there was a piece in his head that he thought he was going to

die. Really? I think that there's a chance that he thinks this is his last message. So, you think he got high on his own supply? Maybe. Okay. I don't know. Because we still haven't established whether or not we believe he believes what he is saying

he believes. That's true. We're still in this labyrinthine, like, is he playing us? Does he believe it? Does he believe some of it? It's another communist Chinese nesting doll. Exactly. Yeah.

I think that the leaf are like a just a propaganda onion. Yeah. It's insane. I want to know more about, I want to, I genuinely want to go to a bar with him and just listen to him talk in a... I'm not sure you do. I bet it wouldn't be fun. Well, okay.

Maybe that's a good point. Because if he acts like this when he's drunk... Well, but this is fascinating. There's no doubt about that. There's no doubt about that. Yeah. This is very fascinating to listen to him talk to. This is a bummer.

It's very much a bummer. Which is kind of why I have this little kernel of thought that maybe he thinks he's going to die. Okay. And if you look at it through that prism, it's fascinating. What? Can I have one of those? Yeah, yeah.

It's fascinating because it's like, what would your last message be if you had a flock? And this is what he chooses to do. If you look at it through that lens, it's super bizarre he started by shitting on Megan Kyle. But it makes sense why he would talk about Lubie's diner and why he would get into this sort of, I wish I lived in a farmhouse and knew my neighbors. This sort of thing kind of comes into focus a little bit. Yeah.

Yeah, that does. There's still more of him. Man, why am I feeling sorry for Alex Jones now? I think that... Why did you make this happen? Because we have empathy within our hearts and others don't. So he goes on from there and I caught nothing out in between those two clips where he talks about how we should live in farmhouses and know our neighbors into this next thought,

which... Does he like the band Fish? No. He would hate them. He would hate them? Hate them. They have a good song about farmhouses. Yeah.

Oh, that is a good song. I like one of their songs. Is that one? Yeah. The one that doesn't last 45 minutes. I think at this point he realized that he'd forgotten that he's doing a political show and so he had to jump back to politics and he says one of the things that I think is the strangest sentence I've even heard come out of his mouth.

Excellent. Now get your butthole ready for this fucking thing. Trump doesn't believe in the golden palace as he lives in and the suits and the super hot wives. He does that because he knows that's what you've been captured by and his whole life has been a plan to hijack their system and they've only figured that out at the end. Wow. Wow.

Okay. Unpack that fucking sentence. Okay. So this whole thing, this whole Trump thing has been a sleeper cell... What? What? From birth, baby. What?

From birth. What? From birth. Is he ascribing Trump full consciousness from birth? More or less. So... Well not from birth. I'm being hyperbolic.

No. Of course. But when does he think this plan came up? Because Trump has been rich since he was born. Yes. But he's not into it. Although every indication all of his behaviors have indicated he's super into it. But he's really, really good at it.

I mean obviously he's really good because he's had so many years of practice. Now at making you think that he's obsessed with all this pomp and circumstance. And the gold house. Because he knows... The literal gold house. Because he knows that we're trapped in materialism and that that is what's gonna impress us. That's what's gonna endear him to us. He's like, he doesn't care about that.

He's a good man. And it's like, it's a battered spouse. Y'all, that's a good point. That's that kind of thing. Because he's just now realizing that maybe Trump is not the man he thinks Trump is going to be. I'm defending someone who's undefendable to some extent. I think there is that glimmer there.

Yeah. Also... He has to have started to figure out that all of the stuff that he thought Trump was going to do, he's signaling that he is not going to do any of that. I don't think he's starting to figure that out. Oh, you don't think so? No. In much the same way that I do believe there are forces behind the scenes that are a bit

more nefarious than are being presented. I think Alex might be... He might be compromised. Alex might be compromised. He might also be compromised. Okay. I don't... Well, I mean, he was on Russian television.

Being told that he defined American males. Jesus. The new American... What a dick suck. Un-Americanism is over. I'd love to play that clip, but it's so long and stupid. Go find it. It's on Infowars YouTube channel.

Excellent. Yes. Hey, you know what? Don't go there. Yeah. Don't give them any more clicks. Definitely don't buy any virility pills. That's all we ask.

I'm not saying for sure that he is, and I don't want to speculate because, I mean, obviously there's no evidence of it, but his tone changed so dramatically about Trump that it does bring into question like, what the fuck is going on? So I was watching a clip of him earlier today. He was talking about how Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin would be a perfect ticket. He was talking about how he's getting, like he literally was saying he was having wet dreams about that being a ticket. He was like, it's insane, like to go from that to Trump is so big a jump.

And I mean, that clip was in like late 2015. So it's not like that was decades ago or something like that. It's bizarre. There's a decent chance that the compromising this is from Trump himself or from Roger Stone or something like that. Do you think Trump gives him a lot of compliments? Oh yeah. Okay.

Oh yeah. Now why? Because, you know, I mean, we've talked about this before, one of the ways you can compromise people or get them to like without any threats, the Russian thing, but has Trump shown any inclination towards doing that to anybody? Putin. Okay. That's good.

He compliments Putin all the goddamn time. Yeah. But maybe that's because he has to. Maybe. I don't know. That's entirely possible. But then also, I mean, Trump was on Alex's show. He was.

Oh, he was. Oh yeah. He appeared on the show when he was running. No shit. And he said, basically, you're going to be really excited about me. I won't let you down. That kind of, that was the sentiment that he... Yeah.

But that's not a compliment. No. But he also talked about how the good work that he's doing, and if you believe the things that Alex says, Trump called him to thank him for his help after he won. Okay. I mean, that could be a lie. Well, that could be a lie. But that does seem like something that is plausible.

Definitely. Definitely. Although, but, but no, no, Trump wouldn't have done that. We're, no, I think he did. But we're descending way too far into the, the world of like speculating. Yeah, we're speculating. You're right. I'm not going to engage this as what it is.

Yeah. So we have a... So it's all, it's all a plan that Trump has had, is to put together this entire persona of wealth in order to... Trick us into loving him. But why would he trick us into loving him? Isn't the whole point... As opposed to being like a benevolent, decent person, we just actually like you.

But the people who, the people who don't like him are the ones that are most like, aren't they the ones who he thinks are into celebrity culture? Yeah. It's convoluted. That is convoluted. No. All of it, all of it is like a weird oraboros when you try and unpack the logic of it. It's like...

Well, because there's no logic of it. He pretended to be like the loving richness and all this to get in with the insiders only to double cross them at this point now that he's president. I think that's the underlying... So he's full on Manchurian candidate now. Yes, but it's for the patriots. He's a Manchurian candidate for the true Americans who aren't brainwashed by the globalists. That's what Alex would say, I think.

But has he... So with no previous inclination that this is happening, because all of Trump's actions up until this point have been, I love Trump. I'm a big fan of Trump. Trump, Trump, Trump. And a lot of the positions he's publicly taken have been contradictory to the positions he has now. Well, and the whole like, we're going to get rid of Wall Street bankers and all of the

Golden Sex people, Goldman, not Goldman Sachs, but fuck it, they might as well have Golden Sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have Golden Ball Sachs. Yeah, but again, it's that confirmation bias thing where it's like, well, yeah, they work for Goldman Sachs, but they've been fighting the globalists behind the scenes. So he's got this whole, everybody has been, everybody has been working towards this exact point.

Yes. This is the most important moment in human history. This is a, I mean, Trump is 70. So let's give him some credit and say Trump didn't have this plan until he was 19. Maybe. Okay, so we're going to go as far back as we can reasonably go. Trump has this plan. At the same time, all of these other people develop this exact same plan.

They eventually get together and figure out a way to enact this plan to bring us all to this point where they've successfully tricked everyone into worshiping money. Yeah. And now, now, they're going to go back on literally their entire lives to protect the patriots. The true message of America. The true message of America. What is the true, well, we're getting to the secret of 2017, right? Maybe.

Maybe we already heard it. Maybe it's farmhouses. I mean, that is, that is the secret though. If that, if that would be a great secret, Northern lights, the secret of the fish song. This is a farmhouse. Um, okay. Okay. We got better.

Okay. Okay. The secret of 2017 is that, is that all of these people, you remember that, you know, that, uh, news radio episode, the secret of management. Yes. It's kind of like that. I'm. With.

Stupid. It reminds me of that because it's like, okay, this is supposed to be about the secret of 2017. And what we've covered so far, if we want to give a full breakdown is that Megan Kelly is ugly. Luffy's diner is where Alex Jones proved he's a good man. Obama can criticize black people because he's black and he doesn't want people to have cars.

He's been in big movies. He hasn't Alex wouldn't take a billion dollars to cut his eyes out. He loves farms. Celebrity worship sucks. He's not a bad ass rocket scientist and Trump secretly hates his own all the plan. Yeah. It's all a plan. But we're not done.

There's more. There's more. I don't really remember. Remember what this clip says. Okay. All the label is hypocrisy. So we'll see what that means and look, I want to be completely straight with everybody because I say we should be healthy and not eat GMO because I say we shouldn't drink too

much. We should be strong. We should watch too much TV. It doesn't mean I don't do all the things I say you shouldn't do. It just means that my soul's point in the right direction and I am trying to tell you things that I know from my core best because I've experienced it. Okay. That label was right.

That is the most correct label. Don't do it. Look. Do as I say, not as I do. I'm telling you what to do, but I can't fucking do it myself. I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do it. Look at me.

I got, I got, I'm turning down major movie motion pictures. Yeah. I could make $10 million a year. I'm definitely not going to tell you to turn down major movie motion pictures. No. I'm doing it. What? Not eat GMOs.

Has he ever, where did GMOs come from? What do you mean? He said, I'm telling you not to eat GMOs. Yeah. You know, you don't want to eat that. Those, those fake foods. You don't want to eat that. But where did that come from?

Does he? He's a big anti GMO. Oh, okay. He believes that. Because that's a globalist poison. That whole thing. Trying to poison the food supply. Now, admittedly, Monsanto is one of the most evil organizations on the planet.

Sure. And I think the idea of like patenting seeds is, uh, horrible. Next level. And, and the seeds that don't produce their own seeds, so you have to buy more seeds every year, which is maybe the most evil thing I can ever conceive of is like, we're, we're a drug dealers for food. Yeah. The idea of making famine more likely, or the idea of, uh, being real stingy with water,

those two things I think are fundamentally, literally evil. Yeah. No, that's, that's about as evil as you can get. Yeah. Because you're literally, you're literally tying lives now to money. Yeah. And the, no longer, no longer any subsistence at all, it is purely a oligarchical money structure.

The narrative play out over and over again, tying poverty to like morality and being like, you're bad people because you're poor. Yeah. This idea of like, who's that guy who just came out and was like, if you can't afford birth control, you shouldn't have sex. Oh, fuck off, man. Fuck that dude. What the, what the hell kind of argument is that?

That's a, that's a non-argument. And at least, at least 30, 40 years ago, they would have been like, have you tried the rhythm method? At least. And then the pill was invented by a Catholic to just simulate the rhythm method. And it would get, if you are legitimately against abortions, you are a fucking hypocrite if you're against birth control. You are a massive, massive hypocrite.

Yeah. Because birth control and like the, you know, like morning after pills and stuff like that would eliminate 100% abortions. Uh, not 100%. Not 100%. A lot though. Uh, as, as we all learn from Jurassic Park, life finds a way. Anyway, this is not over yet.

Not by a long shot. This, uh, this, this clip's weird. That's the only setup you need. Okay. The eye has not seen the ears on her. The mind is not dreamt of what is in the potentiality of this species. If we go to the next level, look at everything we've done. I love dolphins.

I love tigers. I love all of them. They're magic creatures. They aren't one, one hundred. This magic is real. But the problem is, is that an elephant's majestic, strong, beautiful, a tiger. It's, it's all kind of in its spectrum. He doesn't have those lows.

He doesn't have those highs. See, we can go to the very bottom of hell. We can meet the devil or you can transcend and join God. I love dolphins. I love them. But also, does he not know how dolphins act? What do you mean? Well, I mean, like dolphins are rapists.

They love fish. They do love fish. Well, I mean, consent is a murky thing in the animal world. Well, I mean, they've also raped people. Well, I mean, consent is a weird thing for them. They don't have the same, you know. Well, we can all go to the bottom. No, that, and that, no, no, no, let's back off.

That is definitely your Kenneth Branagh dramatic speech right there. The eyes don't see. The ears don't hear. That's preachy. I love dolphins. Yeah. What the fuck? Like, and I get his sort of like, look, animals are cool, but they aren't capable of what

we are. We can be the devil or we can connect with God. It's like, it's forced profundity. That is, that is such a weird, that's such a weird trait. Well, it doesn't make sense. No. And now that's, that's super, that's super supports your, you know, like this is his last missive from before death row.

Wait till, wait till these last two. Oh God. Yes, please. All right. Here we go. This one. Give it to me, baby. Is a bit paranoid.

The spirit of evil is laying against us in an attempt to keep us from our birthright. And all I can tell you is the enemy smart. These churches, when I go even near them, I almost throw up. They are satanic. So he's talking about how this, this is something that I actually think is really dangerous in the same way that they try and demonize the press. And like, no, we're the real press. Right.

That's a really bad. Well, what they're trying to do is set themselves up as the devil. Right. That's a really bad. Well, what they're trying to do is set themselves up as the single voice. Yep. And we do that. Then you can just, well, and just like how today Trump started, like they have this

whole thing where he's trying to kick out the Associated Press. We're taking back the press core. Yeah. Which is like, oh, so you're literally saying that you're the only voice allowed to speak well. Bright Bart. Oh God. Yeah.

So like the, the idea that like. It's, it's these churches. Is he referencing specific churches? Probably all of them. But here's the thing. Or well, cause my, my first reaction to that was he's more talking about not literal churches, but like the churches to know he's talking about literal churches. Because if he's talking about like the mega church, like those whole things, he might

actually be into them. Really? But those are the most evil churches. Well, we know that because we've been to them as children. Yeah, yeah. Well, and there's, those are all like, like. But here's the thing. It's money.

Those are money churches. But he loves prosperity. That's true. But here's the thing. But also prosperity is just a trick. Maybe. I don't know. It's so fucking hard to unpack.

Yeah. Cause there's inherent contradictions everywhere. But here's the thing. When you talk about like these churches being evil and stuff like that, I think that there's a really fair point that you can make about like child abuse in the Catholic church. I think there's fairly abusive things done to people in almost all churches in terms of brainwashing, in terms of, you know, just sort of foundational problems that organized religion has.

That's not what he's talking about. Right. He's talking about the message of Christ has been bastardized by these churches. But he understands the true. Okay. Which is. But of course he gives zero bastardization. No.

Examples. No. The church they would do and that's why people rebelled against it. It was that back in the day, there would be the priest who had the Holy of Holies, the center of the church where he could communicate with God and tell everyone else what God wanted them to know. Which is a great move. It's a beautiful scam.

It's such a good scam. Yeah. And that's kind of. As the board just proved. Yeah. They got so fucking good at it. And that's sort of. And that's why the Protestant Reformation happened.

Yeah. It had to. Yeah. It had to be a marketing back to. Now I'm not saying that he's going to be like only I can talk to God. But he's like only I have or I have the right view of it. And if you agree with my view of it, then you're right to. Yeah.

He's got a very messianic situation going on here as well. So not only is this his last message before death row. This is his three days before he's resurrected to. Yeah. Anyway, this clip goes on. The enemy is in the churches. They're in the media. They're in the government.

At the top. Doesn't mean the government's our enemy, but I'm here to tell you. You simply humble yourself and get before God. The destiny is waiting and we can have it all right now. That's a creepy fucking sentence. He just said the enemy is basically everything. Everything. The enemy is all institutions have been corrupted.

Yeah. By the New World Order, by the Illuminati, by the globalists, by these evil forces. And they have twisted the message of Jesus. They've twisted the message of freedom, which I mean, it's not like that's a like that's not an insane thing to say in a smaller sense. Because all of these things, you know, like power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely. And beyond that, like institutions are just collections of people. Exactly.

So if you have bad people in an institution that is inherently good, the institution will turn back. Yeah, absolutely. So I mean, you can have a single church with bad people in it and now you got a bad church. But now I want to get into the humble yourself before God situation. Yeah, boy. And that's how we get utopia, is if everybody just humbles himself before God. As Alex understands God.

As Alex does himself, because as we all know, he does not ever want to imply that he is a badass rocket scientist. No, never. Jesus Christ. But you have to humble yourself exactly the same way he wants you to, to the same principles and same idea of God. Or else what you're doing is just evil. You're just being misled.

It sounds like he's such an absolutist. He is. Like there's no... It doesn't sound that way. No, you're right. That's a good point. That's a good point. But and yet at the same time, he leaves himself open.

He's a cult leader. He's David Koresh. That's what he's trying to say. Oh God. No, that's not the next flip. Oh Jesus, because if that was the next flip, I swear to God, I would have killed myself right now. The Branch Davidian Church incident.

I hate to call it that, but that was a foundational moment in his radicalization. Oh, really? Well, he is in Texas and Waco isn't super far from Austin. And that was a serious overstep and big time. Yeah, that was that was terrific. That was really fucked up. The cult was really fucked up. Yeah.

And then what happened to them was really fucked up. Yeah. That was Janet Reno directly too, which is an even weirder fucking. That whole thing was bananas. And he has all kinds of ideas about how Clinton was personally involved and had to cover up because there were child sex rings involved and shit like that. Of course. Why wouldn't there be child sex rings involved?

The conspiracy that he's dreamt up has evolved over the years. But that was like Waco to him was like... What year was that? Like 92? I have no idea either. But it was 90s. I would say probably mid 90s. That was when he was sort of like just starting to get these ideas.

That was probably when he was in junior college by the timeline, correct. And that was when he was starting to get like read that book that none dare call it a conspiracy. And all this stuff starts to bubble up in his head and it becomes this. After years of pressure cooking, this is where we find ourselves. How, well, because to me, just going by our last episode, whenever you talked about the Y2K thing, he seemed more like just a conspiracy theorist. Just like I am throwing all this stuff at the wall to sell you survival food. And gold.

And gold. At that point. And instead now this is a full on cult leader message. There's no, because in this missive from the edge of the world, which as we all know is where Russia put the fucking radar blockers, there's no sales pitch here. There's no sales pitch. No. Do you hear any sales pitch?

It's one of the longest stretches I've ever heard him talk without bringing up iodine or superman fatality. Yeah. This is all fear and loathing and depression and worry. It might be a snapshot of his soul. Yeah. This is really sad. I feel really bad for him.

If he's in this headspace and it sounds like he really is. It does seem that way. Like this is the first time I've heard him and I've thought this rings so genuine that he believes every single thing he's saying. I also should say, if you were watching the video, you would see that the cry is a little fake. Maybe his body language doesn't support the, no, I'm not disagreeing with your conclusion. But if you watch the body language, there is a bit of showmanship to it too.

Okay. But that doesn't mean that it's not sincere. Well, but he's a natural showman. I don't know if he could turn that off if he wanted to. After 22 years in April? Right. No. But I think that what is important that we can take away is that this is kind of what

happens. When you go down these roads, two whole hog, these conspiracy roads, what ends up happening is it evolves. When you wear a mask long enough, the mask becomes your face. Sure. But it's more than that. You'll also wear an outfit. It's not just the mask anymore.

It becomes something different. In the movie of Alex Jones's life, one, who plays him, two, what does he wear? I don't know who plays him. That's crazy. Because we're talking about somebody with a low, we're talking about, I would say if it were me, sir, Anthony Hopkins would crush it too old, too old. No way. Anthony Hopkins can play any age.

You get a lot of skill. I would say let's Maril Streep. I say we fuck around. Okay. Alex always talks about how back in the day he was a great athlete and he could have gone pro Brad Pitt, no Brad Pitt as a character actor, Brad Pitt, no, not leading man, Brad Pitt. We got to go younger.

Okay. Channing fucking table. Let's stroke Alex's ego. Okay. We have to get him to sign off on this. That's true. That's true. We get the guy from fucking Magic Mike to play you.

You sign on to this doc you pick. I mean, I mean, we get him. I think he can do voices. Channing Tatum. Yeah. If not, he just lip syncs it. We get a dome in to do it. That yeah, that would work.

A dome in would do this voice to perfection. Oh, there's no doubt. He probably already does. That's true. Yeah. Well, this isn't that far from Jesse Ventura. It's like Ventura plus like is equals Alex Jones. Yeah.

Anyway, Alex has one last bit here and I want to be clear. I cut out very little and I made sure to not cut out anything between these clips that has to do with context. Nothing was lost in the shuffle. If you watch the video, it's a little bit longer, but I have not betrayed the spirit of this in any way. Okay. All right.

All right. This is again, it's this whole like internalizing, I have to treat this fairly. Yeah. Anyway, that's what we're trying so fucking hard to do and it's so hard. Here's his farewell to this clip or to this whole video and by the end of it, we'll see if we know the secret to 2017. I forgot about that entirely. I forgot about the secret entirely.

In that experiment, in that turning our will over to everything that's good and everything that came before us, we transcend the mortal bonds and join God. And this whole world is about trying to suppress that. So on my beginning transmission of 2017, I commit to you with all my warts and all our failings that I will always be true to you and I know your spirit is a spirit that will chain the devil and restore humanity so that our species not fail because the enemy is a spirit of death. Come to kill this planet and everything on it and we are the guardians of this planet.

And if we could prove ourselves at this level, it's a stairway to heaven. The fulfillment of human destiny is in your hands and that's all I can tell you. And that's the end of the video. Okay. That's pretty well after he said guardians, I think we know that we're talking about Chris Pratt for him now. I think he would do a great job there. His head shape is right.

That's what I was thinking of with Tatum. Tatum looks good bald. That's true. Oh, is Alex Jones bald? No, he's not bald, but he has short cropped hair. Okay. I think Chris Pratt's got too robust ahead. I think we're getting too bogged down into Chris Pratt's appearance.

Awesome. Now we're Megyn Kelly and Chris Pratt. The cough air will fantasy book this movie. Okay. All right. But you took some notes there. Yeah. So that sounds so much like the prayers that my dad has before like a meal.

The prayers of our fathers. Yeah. That's such a classic, you know. If you were raised in a kind of a fringe church in the 80s, which clearly he was. Alex. Yeah. I'm not sure about that. He might have been.

He's got all the language. Yeah. But he might have adopted it later. He might have adopted it since his sort of reformation. Well, I mean, well, if my dad's still doing it, it's not like it's gone away. No. Like you can pick it up in a lot of different places, but that's such the language of at the same time trying to be humble while giving yourself all of the power.

Well, but it's it's like, so it's like you need to humble yourself before God. And I already have this species is dependent on you, but God has nothing to do with it until you're involved. So it's such a it's such a weird like turn your will over to God, but God doesn't have any control over it. It's such a weird way of thinking about it, especially in terms of, you know, your hard biblical Calvin Calvinism. It's it's fascinating.

Also, the fact that he said species really bums me out there. Yeah. Because that is not that's not what he's really going for. He doesn't understand what a species is. Nope. He's not a scientist. He's just a man of feeling. He's not a badass evolutionary scientist, which as we all know, there are tons of those.

But we also are, I mean, your assessment is not taking into account that he's again crying at the end here. I I and when he said when he's talking at the end here, a tear does go down. No, it does. Yeah. He has one tear like the Italian guy who played the Native American in that commercial. Indeed. Exactly like that member of our species.

That species member. Yeah. So what to you is the secret of twenty seven. I always forget that. I need to know what you think. You have a lot of scribbled notes. Yes. We've listened to, I mean, we're at an hour twenty here or so of breaking down this video.

What do I promise? I didn't edit out the actual secret. So this isn't some game show now where now I'm guessing at the end, no, we're not doing the match game. Turns out it's by peanut butter doesn't go bad and the secret of twenty seventeen is by these virility pills. But he didn't even signed off without no, he didn't do there was no sales pitch there and he didn't even throw in at the end like a support the network or anything like that.

OK, so so now I'm going for unified field theory of all the batshit things that he said. It's very disjointed. But what is there? I see now now I feel like I'm the the guy from Zodiac like I'm I'm trying to put together all of these weird cryptic notes, would you like a theory that I don't even know like I'm putting pictures up on the wall, tying them together like Sherlock like by the end like like if we keep doing this podcast, eventually I'm going to have to buy like a weird chalkboard.

Yes, this is going to have to become a serious Glenn Beck segment. Oh man. OK, so the enemy is everything. Yes. The government can't he can't you he can't adhere to the things that he tells you to adhere to. Yes, he can only point to so he's calling himself John the Baptist here. He's not Jesus.

His gut is unfailable. Right. He knows the truth. Unfailable. But he can't. He never has diarrhea. It's an unfailable guts. He's really depressed.

Maybe that's the secret. He doesn't. That could be the secret. I am bummed out. He's what. So maybe that's out. Maybe that's out. Maybe that is it because he it seems like here's here's what I'm putting all this together

as I hope it's the same thought I have because I just made a fucking revelation. It is that he doesn't understand how to win. After winning. After winning. Yeah. Because the whole thing is building an opposition. So now he has lost the opposition. He doesn't have anything to fight against anymore.

So he's really depressed because the government that he has been railing against is now what he wants you to believe in. Yeah. Except he spent 22 years telling you that they're all an enemy or they're all the globalist. I think my response purpose. Did he fulfill his purpose and now he doesn't know what to do with his life. My response to that I think is bingo. That's really what I think the message of this is.

And it reminds me of a I don't know who I am now. Yeah. It reminds me of the Dana Gould bit about astronauts and how if you've gone to the moon everything after that must be completely a let down like sure. Oh man I'm getting these double A batteries. I use these when I went to the fucking moon. Sure. I mean yeah it's it but I think that's an unfair comparison with that bit because I don't really

think he's achieved that much no I think he to him well one he ended anti-Americanism. Well that's true so he's he's achieved a lot more than even the if you believe literal Russian propaganda even the even the astronauts didn't end anti-Americanism and they we've had like a fucking space station with them for 20 years and space command lives up there. Yeah. Space command space command. I think that there's also a tinge of buyer's remorse thrown in there. Okay.

There's a little bit of a I didn't want it to go this way. Now I might be putting too much on him. Yeah. But like there is I think fuck I didn't want to win or something like that. Yeah. There is just like we got to play a different game now. Well and that's what we got to play a different game. How do you sell disaster supplies?

That's what's going on with the GOP because it's been yeah right when you're winning. It's about to win. Yeah we're winning. So what are we going to do with disaster supply? The only way to do it is now change up the entire narrative to be like well you know who's good at playing from the bottom globalists that has to be the net like there's no other way to do it. Yeah but now you're going from opposition to defense so he's going from offense to

defense. But it also turns into when you're this sort of you have this sort of worldview defense becomes witch hunts. Yeah. And that's something that I think is particularly scary. I think like it's a it's a short jump towards you know you don't remember McCarthy isn't fondly. No.

I read a book where it's like that was a great time. Who wrote that Rob do Lee and Mac and don'ts. All right. All right guys. I'm going to get out of here. I got to go. So we'd like to say you're welcome for explaining to you guys the secret of 2017. If you have any different interpretations of what the secret might be please reach out

to us at knowledge underscore fight on Twitter and also you can send us an email directly at knowledge fight at gmail.com. And we are on iTunes and YouTube and the like. Yep. Absolutely. I hope you guys enjoyed Jordan. There's been a lot of fun. It has been an immense pleasure to discover the secret.

We'll we'll be back later this week. So please get excited for that. And hey welcome back to the studio Alex. I'm excited to hear what you got to say. I love you. Love to hear about your trip. I'd love to know if you're feeling better because this sounded really bombs. The shit was bleak.

Even if we are kind of we don't see eye to eye. Still care about you as a person Alex. Catch you next time. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex. I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan. I love your work.