Knowledge Fight - #30: April 14, 2017

Episode Date: April 17, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the April 14th episode of The Alex Jones Show. That day, Alex was joined on air by two of the largest non-Alex Jones voices in the world of right wing propaganda, Mike Cernovich and Gavin (Nigel?) McGuinness. Topics covered include: How proud are the boys? How many inaccurate population stats can Alex rattle off in 30 seconds? Seriously, how proud are the boys? How would the alt-right deconstruct Saved By The Bell?

Andy and Kansas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody. Welcome back to knowledge fight I'm Dan. I'm Jordan We are a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink red wine and have conversations about the evils and The plague that has come upon our land the plague that is the popularization of Alex Jones Wow That was I'm in a boy. That was that was really defeatist. I'm in a tone of voice was terrible I'm in a grim place and we will come to realize why throughout the course of this episode Is it the oncoming inevitable nuclear war? No

Listen, there's problems there. Certainly the death of the coral reef. That's really problematic and terrifying One-third of it is bleached now. Oh two-thirds two-thirds in its final death throws the Great Barrier reef two-thirds What else the inevitability of climate change causing an Infinite amount of refugees no increasing nationalistic fervor and putting us towards a World War three. No, that's not why Okay, it's for real. Like I said, it's reasons that'll become clear. I don't I don't Know it's because of what the trend that we're going to be looking at in this episode of the show Okay, generally what we do is we take a look at one day in the life of Alex Jones plot twist What's the plot twist I watch Alex Jones in his show every day and you I do not I do not at all

I protect myself from from those particular evils and engorge myself with others. You use a brain condom, which is smart Exactly. I'm in there raw I'm in the info war raw. All right. Wow. Wow today. We're gonna be discussing. I mean, that's very Alex Jones We're gonna be discussing he's got a fourth kid and we didn't know about those secret Yeah, uh, April 14th. We're gonna be discussing something that goes on on that show But as is our tradition here is an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones from that show Why am I listening to me? I don't know half the time I can't listen to myself and I don't say that is self-deprecating. I mean, I mean it's

We don't either we have no idea so many questions There's so many questions within the why do people listen why do people listen to me my show is unlistenable I can't listen to it. Have the time this actually what kind of idiot would listen to this show This episode actually has like maybe six Candidates for out-of-context drop. Oh boy, but I've just weaved them in sort of along the way Oh, nice. Uh, so we'll like a tapestry of it And they kind of fit into the situation. So on friday april 14th Yes, I'm noticing a trend and that is that most of the week is boring as shit

And then alex goes balls out at the end of the week like thursday and friday are generally like let's fucking actually get to work Monday through sunday is where he says things that he shouldn't say Okay, he said he like he did that pizza gate apology on sunday. Uh, uh, you know, he's He's got that's where he buries stuff. Yeah is on sunday because he knows most people aren't listening Yeah, right monday through wednesday are just kind of like let's introduce the narrative and hit the greatest hits He hates mondays. He eats lasagna. Absolutely. We got it and rob do is normal Um, send him to abu dhabi get a special report roger stone is definitely uh, odie odie. He's kicking roger stone off the table I disagree with that premise. Oh, no, no, no, because what kind of shenanigans is odie gonna get into this week

I don't know. We're getting a nixon tattoo on his back. See there we go That'd be a great odie. There'd be a great comics kick him off the show jim davis get it together Um, so this week it was pretty boring throughout most of the week. Uh, and then well except for I can't think of any important news that was happening during this week I can't think of any exciting insane news that occurred multiple times this week No, I mean, I guess we talked about the april 11th show from uh from tuesday So that was kind of interesting this week, but that was just because alex was having a little bit of a breakdown Yeah, uh, and that was that's fascinating because that will happen sometimes

He was a little bit of a breakdown quite a break. He seemed to have a psychotic break Yeah, a little bit, but throughout the rest of the week. It is just this boring stuff. It's like siri siri is a lie Uh, Trump's flag Trump was awesome for dropping dropping the moab bomb. Yeah. Yeah, we're all gonna die on afghanistan That killed like 30 people, uh, 30 isis people and then a whole bunch of others Uh, yeah, you know tons of people it, uh, it's well apparently from a mile out it explodes your eardrums Uh, so yeah, don't don't get close to the mother of all bombs. That'd be that'd be good advice That's my advice to most people to not everybody

So on friday jump on a moab jump jump jump right on there write it down like slim pickings How come fucking alex jones hasn't done a cover of matta's whale trump? He came back. Okay. What have we become on friday? He came back from break doing karaoke four times Okay, four times. Did you get an eclipse? No because I was at work. I'm not recording it live damn it It was amazing. He was all like some country shit, too Which means he's in a weird place and they and they cut him again. Yeah cut them all those fuckers. Yeah, these assholes They're watching us. So on friday at the end of his show. He had a lot of guests Yes, uh, and it was sort of his way of deflecting a little bit from him having to carry too much of the weight

Uh, for most of the show he had mike sernovich on Okay, who is mike sernovich mike sernovich? That is a great question He's he's a crazy person. Okay. All right. That's the long and short of it. Okay. He's been an active proponent of the pizza gate stuff He's been a fringe weirdo. He does a lot of periscopes He's really into the tv show fringe. He is a journalist. He loved the movie down periscope I'm putting journalist in heavy air quotes, right, right? All right, uh, there's a lot of people who suspect that he is the person that the banon

Contingent in the white house is leaking information to Because he seems to be suspiciously is is he the one where trump was like he should get a Pulitzer prize prize Was he that dude? Oh, okay That's all I need to know. He broke the susan rice. Yeah, which was not a story Yeah, if you if trump says you deserve a Pulitzer prize. You are a dead man to me Yes, so alex has mike sernovich on for a good while and they talk a bunch of bullshit Uh, that that's not super interesting, but sernovich sticks around their favorite saved by the bell episodes Oh my god. It's probably the one where they get class rings. That one's great. Yes. That was a good episode

I can't remember. I thought it was the one where kelly had sex with a guy who was like 35. That's all of them Oh, okay. That's all the episodes. Um while zack watches and does a fourth wall break zack is a cock He's a cuckslater's a real man. Yeah, that's true. That is true I would love an in-depth analysis of saved by the bell by the alt right You know what kelly would be a great housewife is all I'm saying alt right at knowledge underscore fight You know what listen to me, uh, jesse. She's too uppity. She's out there talking about feminism You know what she really needs is a good slap Oh

Well, you took that too real you took that too real. I did as foreshadowing. Oh boy. Oh, nope. Nope Uh, so Mike zernovich is on for quite a while and in the third hour they bring in gaven or nigel mcginnis unclear on which one it is It's gavis. So we never settled that question. We did it's gavin I'm going to call him nigel for the rest of this episode just as a show of disrespect good But his name is gavin mcginnis. He's the guy who found advice Which they trot around as like some sort of amazing credit and sure vice has turned into quite a large company

But they also I mean come on now. I don't actually know anything about vice No, I don't I don't know anything about the inner workings of it, but I've read a lot of their articles and it seems like People who are and this isn't all of it. What's their in-house editorial style? I think it's like incompetent hunter s. Thompson. That's kind of how I would describe a lot of their journalism Okay, I'm listening. It's it's does he does he bumble around along along the way to uh, to shooting his gun Magoo gonzo. Yeah Magonzo journalism There we go. There we go and I'm painting with too broad a brush

Because there is some decent work that's done on it, but by and large it's like Very young people who are like, but they write too much Hunter s. Thompson and they were coming up and they think like uh, I'm gonna do this dangerous journal and Right garbage, but it's jackass of news sort of yeah Nigel McGuinness joins them for a tripod Of bullshit. Oh shit and Ganon returns that is what we're going to be discussing when these three men met on alex jones's show And the bullshit that comes out of their mouth Now they're and I one mouth. They're all the same. They're all this we human centipeded it now when we were starting this show

I was telling you that I'm in a little bit of a weird state. Yes. This is why okay. I think that they're consolidating Oh Now so so you think that the vice people are gonna absorb He has nothing to do with vice now. Oh, okay. Okay. He's left that and we'll get into what he's doing now Which is fucking hilarious. Okay, but that comes down the road He's dancing with wolves more or less Nigel McGuinness born Gavin Nay, Gavin

Uh, Mike Cernovich and alex jones are not necessarily Merging in terms of their business is merging or anything like that. Okay. Okay, okay But it is sort of like a rogues gallery coming together to our batman not john rapaport our batman. Okay. All right. There is Like a team coming together and it's really fucking scary because this idea of these propagandists working together uh creates Unlimited potential of audiences merging, you know, that's not good. No, it's I don't like that at all It's the same thing with alex being on joe rogan and not being challenged in his ideas It's that same sort of thing. They're creating a consolidated echo chamber where they can each repeat back the bullshit that they say to each other

Mike Cernovich has reported blah blah blah. Yeah, each of them has a uh, you know, certainly a venn diagram audience, but not completely Uh all the same and they have built in credibility in their audience. Yeah So they give alex jones by proxy credibility like cernovich by proxy credibility And it becomes a really dangerous game of ping pong so That scares the shit out of me and I don't like what it portents Now that doesn't sound good. Now the good news is these people the mother of all bombs on them. No They don't have any tunnels. That was so close

These people are fucking really stupid. So it will be easy for us to cut through a lot of their bullshit but It's still scary that they're amassing hordes of people who follow them and combining right and sorrow and sorrow man Now let's get to the business at hand because I have a lot of clips But the first one Is maybe the most delicious of them. Oh, I like calling clips. Tell me more great british bakeoff I like to call clips delicious, especially when they start like this and uh, uh, here goes look look at czar nicholas or Oh

What was uh, Edward the 8th father's name gavin mcgannis? You don't think he has a lemon chasing around to you like i'm not gay gavin But watching you get yourself all prepped and clean. I think I might actually be here. You're you're pretty you're pretty handsome looking dude over there Uh, like every part of being gay except the sex hanging out with guys get to do what you want you never get mad It's just the gross parts that happen. I guess well, actually they do the sex quite a bit. Yeah So I kept uh What the fuck is going on? So alex is trying to play cool. You know like that

Hey, that was gonna that was gonna fuck any dude. It would be fucking you right there. Do you do weird? Oh, look at you prepped up. Hey, I would totally be gay with you as long as I Nigel mcgannis has novelty facial hair that would cause alex jones to scream for 20 minutes if it was on a cnn reporter What kind of novelty facial he's got a beard and a mustache that's a little too long for the length of beard So he has a little bit of like prop mustache going on with his beard to the point where remember The guy that he screamed about mr. Creepy. Yes, mr. Creepy over here on cnn. Yeah, he has a rape fan Same beard. He not the same but it's enough that if he was someone who alex was against he would be like Oh, look at this guy. I'm not saying he has a white van, but he probably does

Let's check his tax records. But in this regard because he's on his side. Yep. He wants to fuck. He wants to fuck him, right? So that means that he secretly wants to fuck the guy on cnn You have just used what is known as a hypothetical syllogism perfectly. Yes The transitive property dictates that alex jones secretly wants to fuck mr. Creepy Now we get to the beginning of this Uh Conversation that they're all having and nigel mcginnis again. I'm doing this purposefully. I know his name is gavin Nigel mcginnis comes in with

His really unevolved take and hack comedy about gay stuff. Yeah, he's like I like everything about it But sex I'm like dude. I remember the 80s too. I remember adam corolla in 96 I remember love line in the late 90s adam corolla saying verbatim that bit Like who doesn't you know, uh, yeah, and it's an old bit where it's like if it weren't for the sex I don't mind being gay. It's just hanging out with your friends. Like that's from the the fucking Uh, the larry the cable guy tour. Yeah, one of those dudes the uh, the white collar comedy blue collar comedy Yeah, yeah, the white dude blue collar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of those dudes bits. Yeah, absolutely Which speaks for its quality. It's one of the like hackiest lamest things and alex's responses

Fake laugh all of his laughs that he does throughout this entire thing are so fake. It's it's crazy But then also it's incredibly reductive in this idea that gay couples don't fight You know, like it's really insulting to the idea of it. It's like no, it's just hanging out with your bros Do you mean assuming that uh The gay people aren't real people and they are just some sort of magical No creature that gets along all the time. No, it's assuming that homosexual relationships are identical to platonic friendships I think they are you just add sex you just fuck a bunch Yeah, and I think that's exactly what alex jones knows and that's what gavin mcginnis knows exactly and he is fucking stupid

I know that he's nigel. Excuse me. Okay. I know now. I don't remember which is which you know what? I'm gonna go back and forth based on my whims. I don't give a shit. All right, so but he is coming in I know that he's doing this for humor, but which he's not doing a good job But yeah, if we judge it on the base of humor It's one of the hackiest oldest jokes in the book if you want to judge it based on what he's saying It's horribly reductive and insulting. Yeah, so congratulations. This isn't serial We're not just gonna laugh at any bullshit. We're two professional comedians. Yeah, congratulations on failing twice my man My bro my bro. You failed us both Gavin and Nigel. Uh, so then we get into this

They make some predictions about what's going to be happening over the weekend in berkeley Uh, lauren southern and a bunch of people are going down there to do a thing called patriots day Nothing controversial just people sent like trump wanting to say they love free speech in america and all these rodents these Antifa kids we they were just spotted at home depot buying Wooden flagpoles because they want to extinguish all these people but they're gonna meet up with bikers oath keepers all these guys are there waiting Extinguish extinguish extinguish people with flagpoles also. That's dumb. I mean, how would you? Dan he's dan. Mm-hmm How would you extinguish someone with a flagpole through the neck flagpole through the neck, right?

Isn't that what it would be? I mean, that's the softest area. That's most attackable probably that would kill you You're not going through the chest cavity with the flagpole. Oh, I thought they were gonna light them on fire Oh, maybe I don't know but like Oh, I get what you're saying that version of extinguish. I thought I meant the light of life Ah, oh, well now that sounds it. Well, but he said there was nothing controversial going on Right, so why would they get those flagpoles? Well, that's crazy. They're not doing anything controversial They're just getting together and celebrating free speech in a way that I'm sure does not curtail the rights of others No, but it's the antifa kids who are going to home depot. Oh, yes those notoriously violent trust fund children

But again those oh I every time I go outside. I just see yet another trust fund child getting into some shenanigans But let's take this at its face value This is McGinnis coming in and being like there have been reports of kids at home depot buying flagpoles First of all, I don't know who is reporting that right You just have a reporter at the home depot all the time Or does he pick up migrant workers there? Is that who writes his articles for him? I don't know Can you drive by the home depot?

And get a uh get a man down Keep us posted if any well to do kids are buying the weird things Yeah, what is this fletch? What's happening here? It's so stupid. Does he have a network of spies? You're going to come to this conclusion over and over again that McGinnis is Just popping up and giving these anecdotal stories that I don't know how he could know And even if he does know don't mean anything But he uses it to prop up his stories and it's bullshit. This is why rapaport is only on screen for one hour

Could be because he is Home depot bushes right now Batman gets shit done. Where how else do you think he knows all these scoops? You're making a really great argument here because I should say that john rapaport wasn't on last week On assignment on assignment There's almost no doubt about it and he definitely takes that picture with him So they're predicting that there's going to be trouble at this patriots day march on saturday And from what I understand there have been a little bit of uh, we're recording this on saturday

In the afternoon and from what I understand there's a little bit of tensions. It's a little bit uneasy And as the night goes on I imagine there are going to be fights the breakout I don't disagree with them at all. There's gonna be fucking trouble And it's but you know the oath keepers are pretty hardcore. They just keep oaths But you know how this goes. I mean we saw it go down with that milo situation There were agent provocateurs in the crowd who were largely working with alt-right organizations Some of them even employed directly by them like fake journalists. Yes paid protesters if you will right I mean, I don't want to do that because I don't want to use the same sort of argument that they use so roniously

Right, but that's the problem with it. But I don't exactly what they say is not happening It's so frustrating Insanely they're getting ahead of us on all of these things. So if they get out in front of the narrative Then anytime they do that paid protest protester thing now, it's a defensive thing. We're fighting back against you. It's so Angering it's very effective because it seems like we're being outsmarted by the dumbest people on the planet Well, that's because we're not super proactive like if we could do this show every day And really analyze things then maybe we could you know get ahead of the eight ball somewhat But we can't we have jobs and we live our lives

So which is why we're not out there thinking ahead regarding paid paid protesters. Well, but you can think behind on that There you go. There's paid protesters. Nope. There we go. We've just we've just outsmarted the argument Prove it prove their fake paid protesters, but that's not that's not how they work No, it's not proof. Just yell more enemy of the g.o.p You know, you know, it actually really is isn't it? Well, it's like three of a kind beats a pair Uh-huh proof beats three of a kind yelling a whole bunch beats proof So that's kind of how the the game of poker that we're playing goes

Anyway, I wish we were playing for the low stakes of a pair versus three of a kind. Yeah, it'd be nice anyway, there is probably going to be trouble and Here's Mike Cernovich Coming in with a little bit and if they stay there will be double it will be double Oh, no, it's good. I I did choose between this or being and covering that and you know, what a great life to have to make that choice But I almost went to berkeley. Wow What a pussy. Sure What a great life to make the choice to not do that thing that might hurt me

I I predict he actually asked alex if he could come into studio. Can I fly to austin that week so I have an excuse not to Can I can I not be in berkeley? I don't I don't want to be there. What is somebody? Because they will fuck me up. Yeah, I am a puss I am an asshole. I have a clear propagandist some guy in a black Ski mask is gonna come up punch the shit out of me. Yeah, there's gonna be a gif of it I'm gonna it's gonna be oh god. It's gonna be spencer all over again I am not inciting violence But I am saying that every time I see the gif

Of richard spencer being punched. Oh, I grow my heart grows three sizes. So does he dick Nah, it stops it too Um, so I don't believe I don't believe his premise. They're like, I wish I could be there covering it No, of course, that's bullshit. That's a complete lie. Absolutely. He does not want to be in the shit at all No, no, no, but it's great to have that convenient cover to be like, I wish I could be there Man, I'd be there if I could yeah, that's the guy at the bar saying like hold me back Hold me back and just grabbing onto his friends or the drunk guy who at the bar who's like I could have made it I could have been in the show. You know, I almost made pro ball

You know, just some something happened. And you know, I got I got fat I got fat. It turned out that didn't help. I was trying to protect a woman I blew out my knee in a bar fight. Otherwise I'd be playing pro ball, but I'm a hero. You know, that's sort of Yeah, I lost my arm in this lawnmower over here Look, I got to choose between going and covering this place where I'm gonna probably get my ass kicked for being a dick Or I could go to alex jones' show and be treated like a hero in an air conditioned studio I'm gonna go with that one Yeah, that's a pretty that's a pretty easy choice to make. Yeah, so

That was a Cernovich's take on it now. Gavin has some some other thoughts that are a little bit inaccurate They're all rich kids. They're sons of professors Some of them are brainwashed losers with no parental guidance and these those two weak forces Are going out there and you can tell when you see them in a fight They've never been there in a fight before and another funny thing they do is they put women in the front lines Yeah, because these feminists have brainwashed themselves into thinking they can take any guy So they just yeah, and they make them wear the headscarves. I mean, they're like isis the way they use women is

Exactly like, you know, I agree because I saw that in I saw that in dc for the inauguration Women would run over start attacking me and finally I said, okay, I'm just her ramming them down I'm hitting along on my way. You're hitting me. I'm trying to go in the entrance. I would just forget it this one alex jones Just said that he started beating women. No, he said that they were attacking him and he pushed him off Yeah, but look here. I know that didn't happen for a number of reasons Of course it didn't one reason. I know it didn't happen is that there's no video of it and alex tapes everything when he's out there There's a video of him embarrassingly drunk that he's put out himself

from that The woman's march in dc cupcake cupcake also also They're putting the women out front. It would in dc was the fucking women's march Uh, yeah, of course, of course, we're gonna be leading it. You dumbass get all of that All of those women together because their men won't allow them to leave the house But you understand what i'm only with the permission of a man can women hold the most feminist march in history You might actually be pretty close to what mcginnis thinks

Of course, it's what they think They can't conceive of a world where women are on Especially mcginnis men is a toxic evil masculine force. Fuck and we're gonna get to it but like I really really resent the idea that they're they're sort of Presenting it as What these dumb liberals do is they put women out front as human shields Whereas the reality is that a lot of liberal causes women are leading and we're comfortable with that

They're they're leading more than anything else and we're super comfortable with that falling in line and supporting Causes that are led by women. I'm not afraid of female leadership If you if you if you're alex jones in the toxic masculinity group You can't believe that no because that starts to tear down your other beliefs if women Can actually lead these marches without the control of a man Perhaps they can do other things without the control of a man Right, so even if even if they're aware of this they have to spend the narrative Otherwise their brains explode because then what you know women might have agency like whoa

Which is crazy. Yeah, which is can you imagine a world where women were allowed to make decisions for themselves to be horrifying Their periods would sync up. Is that a thing? Probably in gavin mcginnis's mind. Yep. That doesn't make it a goddamn sense So speaking of gavin mcginnis's mind He has uh this next quote uh when they're talking about this idea of like women attacking them and Pussy liberals attacking them having to fight them off. Yes, which is going to take us down a very fun road Oh, I don't want to hear this road At nyu. We had a guy we call fryer tuck. He's our biggest member of the proud boys and he's just

Gross gross stop because he was a bouncer his whole life. He just murders people for fun and he was gross What is the matter with you guys? No, what the fuck was that fake laugh? Ha ha ha that's gross jordan. He just said the thing Jordan, do you know what the proud boys are? I don't know I don't know. I'm not happy that I heard those words next to each other proud boys Wasn't that a band? Can that be a band? It was a song from musical Aladdin be proud of your boy That's what it comes from I think that's what it comes from that can't that's the best I can tell is what it comes from that can't be real

The proud boys so the most toxically masculine group of people that this guy knows Took its name From the Aladdin musical from what I understand. Yes. That's like how the kkk has a the grand dragon like guys fucking This what are you doing now? How is it that you can be this childish? And fucking filled with delight and turn it into such evil jordan We're gonna talk a whole bunch about the proud boys now The proud boys are an organization

I don't know. I haven't listened to the song, but it's like be proud of your boy I don't know. I'm just doing a version in my head now You're just making the proud boys are an organization that gavin mcginnis has started no That is basically What from what I can tell? a really awful fraternity For really awful men now they put out a video Isn't that just a regular fraternity they put out a video

That i'm going to play part of and I I want to put out a video. I want you to listen carefully Gavin put this video out All right now listen to this how old how old are these people? Some of them are in their 40s Some of them are in their 30s. All right. It's adults anyone if anyone ever says like oh that kids in his parents basement Fucking point to these 40 year old assholes playing at children. It's worse than you think Of course it is now listen to this. This is the beginning of their sizzle reel That they put on youtube they have a sizzle reel and a lot of looking to get a reality show probably

They're probably looking to do that right I might watch it. I mean I watched the bad girls club There's no end to what I would watch on television. I might watch the proud boys show. I would rather die. All right. Here we go I've become consumed with your plight And I'm confident That I can fix you Oh What no How much you play time of your life you giant pussies

Fucking christ You know that's no And the west is under siege and the way they do that is with self-doubt And the way they do that is they shelter us from pride and they make sure we're always ashamed of our past We're always paying for it This is a shitty zack braff monologue from scrubs. Uh, that's what this is. Yeah, and and like overlay. This is fucking horrendous overlaid in this bit like the video is like shots of gaven doing his radio show and shots of him playing with his Baby and stuff like that. Oh, please just just give it a break. So give it a rest

This makes me want to kill myself. Just take a sip of the wine. All right. All right. Just enjoy the rest of this It's important to show how much of an idiot this guy. All right. All right. Jesus And what kind of crazy masculine messiah complex he has it's insane a perpetual penance Where we have to pay restitution for our sins That's all we really want is for everyone to stop crying about the winners and just become a winner It's so un-american to wine politics is two groups It's people who want to be left the fuck alone and people who won't leave them the fuck alone three deal breakers You don't fuck with my family. You don't fuck with a man's home and you don't fuck with a man's job

Totally behind quitting masturbating and quitting porn Call it hashtag. No wanks. Yeah Abolish prison Give everyone a gun legalize drugs and welfare close the borders outlaw censorship Venerate the housewife glorify the entrepreneur Recognize the west is the best ideally number 10 shut down the fucking government We're all sick of the grievance industry. We're all sick of being ashamed. We all want a modicum of decorum We all want to improve our lives. We want to get better. But what's the name of our movement?

What am I calling boys? I got it We are called The proud boys And at that point At that point the music kicks in and it swells. No, and there's just like video of dudes with proud boys tattoos and shit No, it's fucking dark. No, it's fucking dark now. Hold on. No, here's here's just one more clip from the video It's it's it's necessary Shut up imagine imagine a world where the proud boys didn't exist

Do you know how much better my life would be your life two minutes ago? Do you remember my life two minutes ago when when it was joyous? I mean, yeah, the world was gonna end but the proud boys weren't in it. Yeah, but now they are in christ Now they are and we got Now they are and we got to look at it. Look at the darkness jordan Don't deny the darkness the three things that are deal breakers for me Don't fuck with my job. Don't fuck with my dog toodles and don't fuck with My little pony episodes also the other back ones the idea started at the beginning about a week ago

I'm a proud boy and i'm proud also my little pony proud the idea like you don't fuck with a man's job It's like, yeah, you yeah, you totally do That's called fucking capitalism. You don't fuck. Yeah Oh, we wanted there's two groups of people the people who want to be left alone and the people who won't leave them alone How about the people who want fucking roads you pile of goddamn garbage go fuck yourself shut down the goddamn government How do you outlaw censorship if you don't have a government to outlaw it? You can't outlaw something without some sort of authority and that authority has to be a fucking government Fuck you proud god damn boy. Fuck yourself. Go fucking you idiotic morons

Also, how vague is venerate the house one? I don't even know what that means Well, that's like what like an ancient chinese like oh, we keep our elder grandmother up on the goddamn home board Don't let your bro. I'd have a job. Uh and celebrate that she doesn't have a job I hate it. I hate it when people cry about winners. Calm down. Let's quit crying about winners and then we'll all be winners That is a complete and utter nonsensical idea and they should be fucking punched in the face A million they would be if they were at berkeley Oh, fuck me. So now jordan. Hold on calm down. We got to get to this next clip. Oh, I'm very which sort of This is me calm. Do we have to it? So now we're we've gotten into sort of uh,

Nigel mcginnis's philosophy about like what you'd like to see and as you very accurately pointed out, uh There's there's no way for him to do the things that he wants to do Uh within his own philosophy So but we do you mean he's not philosophy, but we don't have a sense of what these proud boys are So now we got to take a look at this I'm not going to use any of the words that I have I have I have a sense of who these proud boys are Would you like me? No, listen. No, just listen. I'll write down a series of adjectives This video explains a little bit. Okay. All right

Focusing on this game and having meetups Fucking secret handshakes. Yeah initiations. Yeah. Yeah, let's beat the shit out of each other No, he's saying let's beat the shit out of each other. Yeah He just wants a fight club. He wants to jerk himself off while talking into a fucking camera. He loves pilaniak That's basically what it's going on here. So now at that point of the video it goes to show It shows that's like a rick and morty bit. I looked into a bunch of I like I looked into the proud boys and I was like what what's going on And I found a ton of videos of their initiation ceremonies. I I wish you would have no

No, you can't be pulling up a clip. Here's the audio of one of them You can't be pulling up a clip of this and it begins with the proud boys pledge. No Don't put the mic down because people need to hear this I am a western chauvinist Greetings from the humongous who refuses to apologize. The lord humongous. We're creating the modern world. Who are you all of the wasteland? So you heard that there it was I am a modern western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for having created the modern world Which is fucking horrible A proud boy

Ah You're hearing some slaps there and that is their initiation ceremony Which is everybody gets around the initiate and they all just punch him So everybody just they jump him in but it's all these little soft punches It's all these like old dudes giving really weak punches and they have no room to like really get a punch going So it's all these little short range punches and the guy is just sort of laughing He's like ah ha ha and here we go. Hold on. Please just hold on. Hold on. You were so furious Price checks great nuts shredded beach

Ah I don't know these guys made me think of fruit loops. One more one more. It's my lucky charm So whenever they're getting punched these these are the fucks the only on twitter Everyone's afraid of the only these alt-right fucks who tickle each other and fucking what is what fucking is that? Dan dan what the fuck is that? I tried to explain. Did you notice how I've never not talked for this long on our podcast ever? I am so fucking angry about this proud boy Every single moment of my life is now pain forever because these are the people

These are the people who run the world. No these guys. No, let me this is they're the bullies This is my advice to every woman on the planet kill all men Put more money into genetic research and just fucking move on without us You don't need us. You don't need us anymore because there are we can clone shit You guys will be fine because there's a segment of the population that's into this Just get rid of us. So just get rid of us. Jordan. Jordan. I feel like I need to fully explain what's going on there So there's these dudes. What do you mean? You need to explain what's going on there?

So they're punching him into the group, right? They're all just punching him and they're they're fucking they're Jerking them up. They're fucking. Oh the only the only way for it to stop The only way for the punching to stop is for the initiate to name five things in a certain category that someone yells out So in that instance, it was cereals. Yes, and he was yelling out the names of cereals So this is a bad improv show. Basically. That's what we're doing right here. Yeah, or no, it's this is second city class one No, it's based on like circle of death or those drinking games you'd play in college, you know, it's like category time How how did you? Now is this is this just you're fucking with me. No, this is just recording from the movie old school, right?

This is totally real. This is totally real recording from a movie that video human beings Do not act like this in real life the video that I just played you were the guys listing off cereals and getting slapped At the end of it. There's a title card that says video produced by Gavin McGinnis. This is directly from him So now here's the other thing. I found a bunch of other initiation videos And one of them is so fucking funny because they're like you gotta drink They get the guy into the circle and they're punching him and he has to name I can't remember what the five the category was but he's like naming them and then some guy accidentally punches him in the face And then it's supposed to be body punches and then he's like guy punch me in the face

And then everybody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody's like can we keep them in a zoo? Like isn't that where we can keep them? No, we build biodomes for these fuckers But I mean like how these worthless piles of human garbage if we're gonna get into like the masculinity of it It's like, okay, you draw a line of getting punched in the face Like that's the worst thing that could possibly happen You're doing all these body shots to prove that you're a man and one guy punches you in the face and all of a sudden Yeah, stop the ritual It's my club, but not for your face

You don't want to destroy something that's so beautiful is these old men. I hate all of them. Oh these old men reclaiming their masculinity I have never I have never I am a male chauvinist That's the is that that's how it starts. It's the under a western chauvinist. I'm a wet fuck off Yeah, that's might as might as well say i'm a white male chauvinist Oh, there are no non-white people in any of the videos. Oh, really? What a shocker. None. What a goddamn shocker zero fucking. Oh god. Do you know what? I do know what the only way this makes sense Uh-huh. Is it a prank is if white people were genetically engineered by yakuup

It's totally the only thing I believe now, but like i'm done. I'm done. You understand like this is This is what nigel mcginnis is all about. He's a giant fucking. This is his group. This is horrendous This is horrendous. It's somewhere. Why why? It's somewhere between a drum a dumb drunk pussy fraternity And fight club. It's somewhere in the middle. It's like an ambivalent fight club for dudes who feel dispossessed And feel like they don't have any masculinity. Do they look like us? Do they look normal? Uh, I mean can they be walking among us at any point in time a couple of them probably find the proud boys I think a couple of them. Well, they a lot of them have tattoos apparently so that might all right If I find a proud boy tattoo, I am going to pee on that tattoo

Also, if you're a proud boy urinate on a human being if you're a proud boy and you want to defend yourself Please feel free to hit us up on twitter or at our gmail, you know, well, I'll have a conversation with you I'm willing to hear them out. Yeah, I will too, but it'll usually involve a lot of uh, any number of words Any number of words. I I hate like fuck boy. I hate to say this cock face Well, it does seem like a lot of really repressed homosexuality too because they're they're always without shirts on and shit And so I mean it there it's there's nothing wrong with a little homo eroticism. No, not at all fine as we all know the spartans Doesn't get stronger than them. No super homo erotic. Absolutely. Do you know what they did? What?

I don't know wrestled or something, but they weren't the fucking proud boys. They're so proud Proud proud boys proud boys, which is even Impatializing call yourselves the the fucking butter butter scotch gang or whatever the fuck it wouldn't be better be proud men No, but wouldn't that be better? I mean in terms of their branding Uh, did you listen to any of this shit? That is subconscious reality hitting them where it's like. Oh, no, we're definitely not men proud boys We're we're proud boys. Yeah, this is what Are they the little rascals too?

Well, yeah, I mean they are prankster-ish certainly god. I hate them so much. Yeah I hate them so much. It's so fucking funny, but it isn't funny because One of them is gonna like beat our asses That's what's gonna happen that the one who murders people for fun or whatever the fuck they call them We're talking shit here and the end result of this is our us getting our ass kicked by a proud boy So that's that part's not very fun, but even if I do get my ass kicked by a proud boy I still think they're fucking hilarious. Uh, if you somehow, uh, if you get your ass kicked by a proud boy Uh, I have no doubt based on that behavior that they will feel very guilty and turn themselves into the cop because they are giant fucking

Pussies. Yeah, but also I want to say this. Okay, we're done. We're done talking about the proud boys for now Thank you And we needed to discuss that just to give a sense of who this mcginnis character is as proud boy But as this develops and as the rest of this goes along, you've got to know what he's into Yeah, and without that piece you don't have a full understanding of this guy. Have you ever seen the movie tickled? I have yeah, this is that Um, do you know what he's into? Watching homo erotic dudes touch each other. It seems like he's thrilled by it. Yeah, but anyway

Yeah, he's very thrilled. Jordan. It's time for us to cleanse our palette with another out of context drop from alex. Thank god They they call me the meme machine That's it. Yep, they call him the meme machine meme the meme machine Oh god, how is that even worse than what he just said? Well, I mean, he's codenamed the texan codenamed the texan the meme machine The meme machine they call him that he's like, I love to be made fun of ha ha it's so fun Anyway, they do not call him the gangster of love. No No one also calls him morise Blamp

Well meme joe greeam. So, uh, we just had where we left off in the episode was uh McGinnis talking about fryer tuck one of the proud boys and how he fights off people at events You know, uh, alex fryer tuck the proud boy alex has some thoughts about how liberals punch people That's what I know they punch they swing like this like Uh Uh, I mean one that is how I punch Um, but that is because I have early onset arthritis And as we all know that does make you a liberal. That's how I uh punch also, but that's because I have a mild

Related Tourette's. Oh really? Yeah, so I mean I I'm sorry. I think it's my awake apnea That's really what it is Uh, so in this next clip Gavin, uh wants to discuss why people keep attacking him. What the fuck Have you ever seen why is the what how are do you understand why have we ever met a goddamn adult? Have these people ever seen an adult? No, but they have you seen how liberals punch and then I punch hard Are you a fucking crow magnet man? They think that they are the adults human being That's what they think they are They think they're the ones who are adults and we are children. That's awesome. That's amazing

Anyway, Gavin wants to talk a little bit about why he thinks the people are attacking him And I I gotta say he's kind of right. He's also wrong. So here we go Well, they're they're so confident that we are this strong man of the nazis or whatever the hell we are So we're hit nazis. So if you're gonna kill hitler, you feel confident about it I mean the people talk about time traveling and killing a baby. It's just it's the only murder that's totally acceptable So now that we're all hitler trump everyone literally the country's hitler They'll just be on their phone going. Yeah, he's right here in front of me. Let's get him. Okay Well, why don't you stupid and you go I'm not gonna sit here and watch you plan my attack

So, I mean that's kind of fair if so the so these guys just have this giant like Boner fantasy of punching somebody and being justified for it. That's all they really want. Yeah, all they want Is to be justified in punching somebody because they have so much repressed Rage that they don't know how to channel into anything useful. Well, when I was in middle school in junior high I wanted to be in a street fight really badly But I wanted to be on the right side of it like I wanted to get into a big Like great fight that was like a big fantasy of mine, but then I grew up and now I don't want to do that

So it's interesting, you know, like just to have these sort of You know benchmarks in our own lives that we've grown through Right that kind of relate to how the proud boys act now. Yes, but I want to talk about like children like poor Tiny little boys, but they're proud. I wanted I want to talk though about this. Uh, I may I punch you? I think he's right Though about this idea that people saying that he's a nazi and those sorts of things allow them to be able to attack him I think he's right about that. Right, but I want to if you are a nazi you I I want to say this. Okay when we talk about people like sebastian gorka

He's actually a nazi right when we talk about someone like milo Unopolis he has slight nazi-ish tendencies, but he's not really a nazi What about richard spencer richard spencer isn't a vowed neo nazi. He taught he is he admits that right? So that's fine when we're talking about someone like evan mcginnis Or we're talking about someone like mike sernovich or even alex jones They're not nazis and when people make those comparisons it is inappropriate But what they are is still someone that needs like I would still punch Like

Yes, the whole point of that was punch for the right reason His point is that everyone's comparing them to nazis to make it okay to punch them and I agree that that's stupid But just make them based on their words and go ahead and punch them. Yeah Just don't do the nazi. Yeah, because what the you know what? I feel like that's a good point You take the power away from the nazi claim I would rather be punched for who I am on the inside as opposed to what you perceive me to be on the outside You can never punch a book by its cover bingo. You have to open up the pages and really get into usually like page 87 That's why I really punch a book. Yeah, exactly. Um, so now

We're gonna take a shift away from and keep in mind throughout this whole thing It's the three of them talking and then at the end sernovich disappears and it's just alex and mcginnis, but for now Proud boys for now, uh, mike sernovich is gonna pop back up and I'm going to bust his bubble Okay, yeah people are like almost family calls and goes, how are you handling it? Are you really working for Assad? I mean, I've never been to the Middle East Assad All I said was I I don't like Assad. I don't like al-qaeda our government started the war Yeah, there it is and their main twitter feed the conspiracy

But the chemical weapons attack in syria was a hoax And they go on to say these un-american traders these useful idiots And so I don't know how i'm not supposed to talk about myself, right? So like you're watching this from and they attack you plenty Gavin as well trying to beat you up and kill you What is going on? We're all russian agents. We're all I mean, I support trump. I get the missile attack made him look strong I'm just saying I don't believe the chemical attack was sassad because they've caught the rebels doing it before And they don't have any proof. He did it. I'm not even attacking trump. In fact in the macky velly way I'm saying, okay, you blew up an empty airfield and shut them up about how you're russian agent

I kind of sickly support it. I've admitted that kind of becoming like macky velly because now we've got a guy in there Doing their own tricks against them But i'm just saying how do we know asad did it and now in newspapers everywhere I am an asad agent you are we we're together in a look at us because gavin are you getting orders from asad Um, so he's very you didn't allow gavin to answer No, and he's very conveniently not asking sernovich, uh, who is sitting right next to him sernovich is in studio gavin's over skype Okay, uh, and the reason is that there's very Strong evidence that has now come out that at least as it relates to the syrian hoax

Hashtag that was going around on twitter That was no that was a russian op. Oh, you think so they've traced back the earliest tweets that uh used the hashtag syrian hoax The syrian hoax part was a russian op not the actual Seren gas no no no no the the thing on twitter that has been traced back to the earliest ones were in russia and bizarrely Very high incidents of people tweeting about that in somalia Which could conceivably be bot farms. I would assume so which is uh, it does support the there's there's a there's a lady who Fully documented the beginning of the uh, how the operation sort of went. Yeah, and how it went was that someone tweeted Um with the hashtag uh, no more fake wars and with uh, uh, a call to arms to a group

And so a bunch of people started retweeting that with a bunch of other hashtags and immediately syrian hoax got Involved in that. Okay, someone implanted that into this thread the people kept tweeting I got activity more people tweeted syrian hoax all of these appear to be Uh fake accounts. So they did a concentrated, uh, uh Attack basic well not attack, but whatever like they used a bullhorn. Yes. That's what they did And they amplified it over and over and over again until it found its way into the public consciousness It's basically you have something that's bouncing back and forth on a really small Area, so it's like you have a ball that's going back and forth between

Two walls that are very close if they're if it comes in with momentum It'll keep going much faster than if the walls were further apart right So you have these accounts that are all being run by the same bot farm essentially the walls are very close And so they start coordinating on this thread and start putting memes onto it onto this thread Uh, and and along the way it also had all kinds of like things about uh, these wars are jew wars So there actually is a literal meme machine. There is a meme machine. Yes, and it is not alex joe So that's so we have finally busted that our most important achievement today Right, so no one calls him the meme machine. So that's how it started

That's how this thing started with these threads and people started retweeting them because they had the memes People started to pick up on it And it started trending and that's when people like mike sernovich got involved So it is it is like a a literal propaganda injection. Yes, and it is useful idiocy It is these people who are willing to believe all sorts of things as long as it fulfills their globalist deep state narrative Yeah, and so they pick up on these things they push confirmation bias They push them really hard and then oh shit The reality starts to come out maybe a week later

That this was something that was started by russians and you can never you can never catch up to it No, you can't get there fast. Well, you know it now, but the damage is done. Yeah, exactly Tons of really stupid people have already bought into this and they're there once you've bought into it You're going to reject any information that debunks that because then that would make you look like a fucking idiot Now if you want to go further than just this very awesome article that has screenshots that documented the beginning of the hashtag Yeah, and one of the proud boys have to say about it. They're mum on the topic coincidentally mum But uh, this guy j.m. Berger who's a member of the international center of counterterrorism at the Hague

His job is to study propaganda and social media analytical techniques He was quoted as saying that the syria hoax hashtag is a quote clear example of russian influence campaigns Designed to undermine the credibility of the u.s. government And uh, he went on to say the point of an influence campaign is to get people involved who wouldn't otherwise be involved A lot of people in the alt-right would not necessarily characterize themselves as being pro russian But they're receiving influence from this campaign Oh, that's a guy at the fucking Hague. So they're dumb. Yeah They're dumb. Yeah, it's a I would love to I would love to

Uh sugarcoat that in like a way that seems more fair and like that In like that way that you go on tv news and they don't say the president is a liar They say the president has made false claims. Yeah, exactly has has implied this whereas the reality is this I am not going to do that. No, I am going to that's not our job I am going to say that these people Are dumb. I'm gonna say they're fucking ding-dongs I'm gonna say You might as well be an honorary proud boy. So and that's not something you should be proud of so we honor every boy

We have we have what I can see and what all my research has led me to believe that they are parroting russian and pro-asad talking points that aren't necessarily based in truth Right now. What's now hold on hold on. Yeah Sorry, sorry So how they're presenting it is that people are accusing them of being Assad agents Where that's what alex always says like people think i'm a russian agent. Yeah, they're saying i'm a pro Assad agent Yeah, no one is accusing you of working with Assad They're accusing you of having an agenda that matches up with his and you're using his propaganda because you've been duped

Yeah, exactly. You've been duped and it's hard to admit when you're duped like I very early Like before we started this podcast me and marty dorosa Recorded an episode of a podcast that he and I did together And we uh, we're talking about called the oops. We've been duped podcast might as well have been It was called that's what they want you to think and we discussed conspiracy theories and stuff like that And part of the fun was that we bought into stuff for for humor and to make the conversation more fun Yeah, but there was a point it went to which we really did buy into For instance the idea that hillary clinton was going to die like she was deeply sick

now We bought into that because it did appear that there were videos of her falling down and stuff like that And it didn't look good now The only real response that we had to that Was afterwards like now we were dumb. Yep. We fucked up on that one. We believed bad sources We bought into whatever this was right and that's what you do when you fuck up Right and mike sernovich has not done that not if your brand is to never fuck up

You can't they can't do it. I would argue that's not being a man Uh, yeah, well, I would argue. Of course. It's not being a man and so far No, no, no, no, I'm done with I'm done with man. I'm done with man. That's fine. I'm a man adult adult I'm done with that like nebulous concept of being an adult being an adult Being a fucking being not an idiot. Yeah being not a moron So now you get the you get the glimpse of this round table that we're having in this team of superpowers Because these dudes do have huge followings on their own hate life. So we've got the proud boys leader over here I hate you. We've got the dummy who believes pro russian propaganda and spoon feeds it to his dumb audience

sernovich or sernovich, okay, and then we've got alex jones who we fully documented as a fragile broken human being Uh Somehow we have more empathy for him. Well, yeah, because we know him better Yeah, but we should have empathy for anybody who calls himself a proud boy. Uh, what a poor but heartbroken useless remember the just might as well be an intellectual blob of a human Remember, I am never gonna not be angry at you for telling me about the proud boys I think you need to understand that I think you really need to understand like on a deep personal level the fact that I now know that the proud boys

Exist is going to associate them with you for the rest of my life. So in the back of my head every time we get a drink I'm going to be thinking this is my Tell me about the proud boys. This is the boy who hit me to the proud boys always always there always there always there Um, so be that as it may I want you to remember that you're making an argument while you're misaligning me You're making an you're making an argument that we should have empathy for anyone who builds a group called the proud boys Remember that later. I as this goes on now. Let me let me let me do this for you. Um, so Just because I have empathy For somebody does not mean I also don't want every single person

On the entire planet to hit them in the face at least one punch them right in that silly mustache Right in that dumb face. Yeah, right in the dumb face Uh, so we're left off, um McGinnis was being asked by alex What's your response to being called a russian agent or a sod agent? And like I said, there's a reason you didn't ask sernovich because that opens a can of worms Now sernovich could probably handle it. He could spin his way out of it But the facts on the ground aren't looking good. So anyway, he asks McGinnis and here is his answer

That really goes bad But gavin, are you getting orders from a sod? Yeah, I was just talking to him on the phone right now. He's actually here We'll be via skype on the other tv But my thing with that is I go I don't care. I don't care if it was actors I don't care if they just had kids go like that The big picture is that the world saw a bad thing So the big man has to go boom on the bad thing and now women respect him here in America

Nelly So he's talking about the pictures of the gassed kids. He doesn't care if it's fake or not You should care if it's fake or not. Certainly because a lot of people are gonna die And if it's fake, those people could totally not die But if it's real or fake, you could not kill people if it's not real Because that would be a lie and you shouldn't go start a war Based on a lie. That would be a bad fucking idea If you if you did that say 15 goddamn years later, maybe we would not have any fucking

Speaking of which you shouldn't not start a war based on a lie on twitter. Also That goes back to the hashtag thing. But do you love don't you love that though? It's like real or not What ends up happening is big man has to make boom boom to impress woman and now women respect him That was it. That was it. Yeah, that was it. That's all he needed. But he's a western chauvinist. He's a western chauvinist God let him let him. What does it feel like? I want to get inside the brain of these people. I bet you don't What is it? I bet you don't like like Just for the for just for a moment like entertain

What does it feel like on the inside to be one of these assholes hurtful? It hurts probably it has to it has to Probably is very pleasant. It has to eat them right like within They have to have those moments where they go home And they're watching tv and their brain is right about to shut off Yeah, they have to have that moment where they feel small and childish and empty, right? I would assume I would assume. Yeah I mean, I think I think that's a pretty human thing Right, but I can't I can't really understand the depth of that because I don't feel small and childish and empty

I feel like the world is ending Right now and I feel that way because the world is ending Right now well up until like five years ago or so. We didn't have proud boys in the world And that's got to be an end time sign. What a beautiful world. Is that in revelation? Uh, actually, there are the four proud boys of the apocalypse. I believe I remember that part. There's fryer tuck Nigel mcganis disease Pestilence exactly. So he actually goes on further and I think it actually gets even more misogynistic Okay, they go, oh the patriarchy's back because we know feminists deep down want to pay her patriarchy

Obama's legacy is obliterated because he said he would draw a line in the sand and he got cucked So that's awesome. He's killed as you say the russian theory. I think the neocons even are getting too much Huber's too confident. They're gonna be wiped out I mean, we know the biggest picture is these terrors are absolute Animals they dismember our soldiers. They tear out beating hearts and eat them They sell fingers and the button the market there for as more trophies There's literally a market for body parts just as accoutre malls So we don't negotiate with them. We don't send them democracy. We just scare them with huge fireworks

also That was very well said x doesn't Deliver you talked over it, but alex at the end said that's very well said. Yeah. No, it's not. Yeah No, it was perfectly. So let's let's break down a couple things Women's secret feminists not women women are actually against the patriarchy right feminists That's their whole goal. You remember how they say that all the time. No, no, no, no You're actually being wrong women as a whole all want the patriarchy But the feminists who speak out against it secretly want it the rest of them are cool. Oh, okay, so everybody wants the patriarchy

All right. Yeah, absolutely now that is At its base That is the what slightly less aggressive form of No, she actually wanted it. Totally. That's what that is totally and that's exactly what that is Take the rape metaphor away from it What it is is an attempt to say like you don't know what you think Yeah, it's an attempt to take agency away from women and it's fucking awful. Yeah, it's absolutely on its face

Not true It implies some sort of like secret knowledge of women that like because he's talking to proud boys Most of the time they don't know so he whatever he says he seems cool. He started vice He must know what women think He doesn't He doesn't We know a lot of women who are feminists We know a lot of women who are on the fence about what they would want to identify themselves as

I don't think that any of them are like fuck. I really Secretly wish men ruled over everything. Do you know it's crazy? Um Now and I know you're not gonna believe this. I probably won't but this is totally true. Okay. I'm listening every woman All right Has told me that she wants the patriarchy. Ah, shit now. She did it secretly though. She tapped it on my arm in morse code Oh, yeah, yeah, that's how you know what they think Gavin figured this out

She was speaking woman code when she said that I would like to make as much as a man Uh, what she was really saying was oh so cool that men make more than me that sort of thing, you know like that That's women code. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. All right. I didn't know that. I was I was actually in the proud girls So we didn't we didn't learn about that. No Jesus so um our cookies are way better though. So then beyond that he's like, uh, we Trump's actions have destroyed the russian narrative it has which they have not at all not even a little bit The dropping of the mother of all bombs on afghanistan right happened almost immediately after news broke that seven different countries Relayed information to the united states intelligence community. Yep that

Trump surrogates were directly meeting with russian spies. Yes So the idea that this is going to stop that is no absolutely not The the proliferation of information is is gone too far. Is it going to stop it in time? No, probably not We have to why why can't they just fucking do this because if they pull the trigger too early They botched the entire thing. This is how it goes with investigations. If it's not if it if it's not iron clad Yeah, you're going to end up coming in too early. That's exactly what the cia said to leahar's leahar v hospital That happens all the time in investigations that no, I know but there's there's gotta be a way to fucking stop this it's clear

Okay, circumstantially circumstantially, it's clear that the president committed treason. Yeah now It does not matter if he actually committed treason What matters is that the entire world looks at the american president and says That guy committed treason. So let's not have that guy Can't we just not have that guy like if you're if you're in the g.o.p. Can't you just not do this? Can't you just once have the fucking balls? To just be like, hey, no, we just can't we just do over. Can't we have a do over? I don't know if you saw this Do over I'd like that. I don't know if it's in the constitution, but I'd like that

but also I don't know if you saw this today, but uh, There was a freedom of information act request made about the polls in the states that trump won That he was sort of suspiciously won. Okay, the north carolinas. Yeah, michigan's. Yeah, uh these states and The return of the freedom of information act said that there were 90 reports Of malfunctioning machines. They had 90 reports about malfunctioning machines Uh into those states Really and yeah, so all that information is about to come out like that's all gonna come out in the near future

I have no idea. It could just be like oh these poor counties had bad machines Yeah, that's most likely the case that one's that one's a little bit too too far. No, but that's systemic That's systemic racism Uh, that's that's more likely. Yeah, that's more likely the situation not russian agents. It's still part of the conversation Yeah, you know, so when you're talking about No, the uh, when you're when you're talking about uh, uh, someone who cheated their way to the presidency having deeply were uh democratic Uh counties that are heavily

You know disenfranchised populations Giving them the shady equipment and refusing to to fix it I mean it's kind of part of that even if the russians didn't influence the election The g.o.p. Did by trying to keep as many people as possible from voting right right they couldn't win so they cheated Now as they're so good at that like historically in america. They always do that and the democrats are like All right, you guys got us this time. It's we're we're bumbling idiots Yeah, it's such a bummer that the proud boys are winning over me Anyway, can we get a music sting of that?

You know what i'm thinking of like that song wild boys. Yeah, anyway, uh, the next uh, clip that we're going into Uh, is a little bit of a discussion about that mother of all bombs that was dropped as as again I mean, I can't it's not fair to call it a distraction because it's a real act of war It's a fucking atrocity. Yeah, but it the timing of it is very fucking weird It's very fucking weird. But anyway, just the dropping of it is a fucking like there's no going back Like that's never it never doesn't it it always works like that and the only escalation past this Is a fucking nuclear weapon. Yeah or hydrogen bombs or whatever. It is always going to escalate. Mm-hmm. I I'm sorry. Oh, I realized that I totally cut you off when you were talking about obama the obama being cucked. Yeah, yeah

Yeah, no that he said that was his proudest decision Not to fucking engage with syria and instead to find a peaceful way To do that because it demonstrates restraint It it does the whole thing because literally everybody in the government told him that he now has to Blow them up or whatever and he's the only voice that didn't and now you look at everybody who was in his government And they're all like That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen when we bomb the fuck out of innocent people gorgeous bombs. Yeah, so now here we go Also, this leads into Gavin. Uh, again, it's being really fucking stupid

I love the moab because not only is this a big message that hey We got the big guns on the eve of the swan's career thing That was a warren of of a bunch of them that they killed who killed special forces going and just to get intel on them We're running them out of syria and iraq Like I said cleaning up obama's mess There now they dropped this 27 bomb and it kills them all I mean that that's a finally and then they say oh, he wants a military dictatorship He says i've given them total authorization there was this to carry out his constitutional orders

This micromanaging call obama's seat and he would never answer the phone sir We we have we have been lauded in the sides. We can't kill him I like that. Do you mean wait? Did he just say sir? We have obama in the sites and we can't kill him He's talking about bin laden right or yeah, yeah, no, but they were saying that to obama the guy who Ordered and succeeded in killing osama. Well, but if you believe I don't know because alex is mixing up his narratives Yeah, alex is alex is all over the board a lot of conspiracy people And i'm not entirely sure what alex is feeling on this is but they believe that obama osama bin laden was killed long before

Oh, that's right. I remember that where he drowned at sea and they didn't have that They didn't have the body so they couldn't do that. Yeah, there was all it was all a cover-up and what have you So I think there's just no there's no winning if you're obama, but like uh, well, the did you see the poll? uh, the the most amazing poll i think i've ever seen in my entire life um democrats Who supports uh? attacking syria. Mm-hmm 37 percent when obama was president 37 percent now. That's great. That's consistency the gop

Prior when it was obama 10 percent when it was trump 89 percent. That's consistency, baby Unfucking believable consistency. Why why do they even exist? I don't know. You don't have any kind of Systallized ideology other than we don't like this thing. We good. You bad exactly. We're proud boys. They're That's You really did just explain it all kind of anyway Really did this clip goes on and gavin says some really fucking stupid shit that i'll explain at the end of the clip All right Oh, yeah, I mean this is crazy gavin. What do you make of that? I think we crippled our guys over there

I was talking to terry shappard recently and I said how do we win this war and he goes let us do our job I mean right now they've got rpgs and they go we're getting shot at from a mosque What do we do and they've got a call up? I talked to one vet who told me he said our guy had to pretend He misunderstood in order to save our lives because they were shooting from the mosque and the guy said don't shoot the mosque He said what was that? What shoot the mosque? Oh That we're trying to kill them We've got to let these our dogs loose on these boys. I want the terrace to be going. Who who who who let the dogs out As we just roar

Short sharp shock by the way, I don't want to quagmire. I want to get out and scare the crap out of them Everybody wants a short shock. No one wants a quagmire, but it always turns into one magically But hold on. Hold on. Do they not know that? They don't yeah, but everyone else is dumb about history Also, he's advocating the neocon position and yet he was like the neocons are never going to make it They're gonna die very very stupid. These people are stupid. Yeah, they have no consistency within sentences No, but then also the rules of engagement dictate that if you're being attacked you can defend yourself So even if you're being shot at from a mosque, you can shoot back at them. There's no authorization that's needed to respond

So the idea that you would have to call back and be like, hey, I need I need permission to attack this guy who's shooting at me That's crazy. You know, I don't I don't necessarily I don't know that I um I'm not going to speculate on that There are any number of reasons why you wouldn't shoot a mosque even if it was shooting at you A mosque is a symbolic situation there. Yeah, or perhaps we still bomb them pretty regularly. Yeah, no, that's true No, that that argument is flimsy. Well Yeah, it is a flimsy argument that said if you read military history, there's a lot of dumb shit that people do and say

I know alex read a lot of it when he was six, but um The the other yeah that that I don't know. I have no comment on that Sure, that's fair enough. My position is that defensive things are very different than assaults Yes, that you need a you need permission for yeah, but then secondarily he's saying I talk to avet again It's an anecdotal story that seems to make some nebulous point that I think is Contestable and furthermore we know that he has talked to a Blank and there has never actually been that person ever right right. So I'm look I just think that's that's pretty stupid

It's very stupid. I don't I I think It it worries me so much anytime somebody says the solution is to let our dogs loose What are you talking about the solution is to kill more people obviously how many people have to It's it's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. Yeah. Yeah, and it always does seem to be sort of um Who do we need to kill? I know the poor The other the like it's so simple It's so simple The mother of all bombs cost three hundred ten million dollars. I think it was three fourteen

Yeah, something like that the entire budget the entire yearly budget of any number of programs And it accomplished nothing But killed other than to show that we can make a big bomb It killed 36 isis members and then that number was upgraded to like 90 something But that number the higher number is dubious and even if it was 94 people in isis That's not worth it In any way nothing is it was it was never worth it to make it in the first place But and there's of course not but and beyond that there's no estimate that I've been able to find of

The amount of civilians that are killed by a bomb that has a blast radius of a mile Yeah, like I don't I can't imagine how many people died. It's uh, yeah This is this is why at any time like It is really important to realize that america is not the good guy Certainly not by default. We are no longer. We're not even Fucking at this point russia is kind of a better guy than we are if they just stay out of shit for like 10 years They're doing better than us But uh, listen, we're getting off track. We need we need to know we're not gonna. Yeah. Yeah, this is this is not the

Let's discuss american foreign policy. No, uh, go to foreign policy for that great articles about more about sebastian gorka I've been learning by the way Anyway, we have to get into this because now we're gonna take a sharp veer from this warship And we're gonna take a hard turn into culture battles great and this next clip Explains kind of what the left is all about. You know like If you really want to get into truth about the left, it's right here. Okay. It's right here I'm assuming that they know about the left and uh, well since they know so much about the women Sure, I assume they I assume they know more about the left. Yeah, I'll tell you what that plays into this

Oh, what a shocker Why is the left literally in bed with the most monotheistic cult like anti-woman Anti-liberal thing on earth. I mean, I know we talk about this all the time, but they the left. What what he's talking about islam He's talking about the left being in bed with islam All right. All right. All right microphone down microphone down So bad they're so anti-freedom anti-west anti-western chivalrous male

That they will roll into the most nasty crap in the world a huge banquet of food and the highest quality culture is ready for them And they just throw it in the gutter and then climb into a cesspit Into a into a sewage pond and are like rubbing crap all over themselves. Gavin Well, I think it's because they hate the family and why do they hate the family? I don't know they have daddy issues Maybe they're weak and they can't bear the idea of having kids and having to propose and women can't handle that they They can create and shape lives or they're overwhelmed by their own Magic their own their sentient beings as Ann Coulter calls them and men

Just don't have the balls to stop playing video games and actually put a ring on it And so they've created this world where everything about them is anti-family more trans more gay weddings We have to Because they don't have it they're against it vote because they don't have it. They're against it, right Gavin Right and they they go they see these Muslims and they go well They are racist homophobic Prejudice extremists who want to obliterate the west but in that obliteration the family will get destroyed So i'm gonna have Linda starts to run the woman's march and i'll put a he job on my head

That's I mean that's an interesting theory. Uh, I would I know it's not I would That was me being sarcastic. That's a very boring theory I would posit that it's possible that liberals Are cool with Muslims because we're into A diversity of opinion and human beings diversity of cultures because we like the we like the humans Yeah, and I would I would say that all liberals that I've ever met Uh are against Things like genital mutilation

Child child brides false flag all of these sorts of things That are parts of primitive culture that do still exist in parts of the developing world We are against those things. Yep, and that's not at all. We're against any number It's not at all fair to pay religious theocracies It's not at all fair to point the finger at all Muslims and say you cut clits off You know, that's not fair at all hashtag. Yes all Muslims It's not fair to say that even a hijab is some sort of sign of oppression I don't want to get it on a soap box here and make an argument that hey

A hijab is freedom because that's a stupid argument to make and it's a world that I'm totally outside of Yeah, but I do know a number of muslim people and a lot of conversations that I've had It's a choice. It's a choice you can make Uh, it it's not really the biggest deal in the world It all comes back to these guys have never met these people. It's like these guys have never met people It's like 12 year old christians wearing promise rings. Yeah. Yeah to to some extent. They've never they've never experienced any part of the actual world No, these people have retreated inside of their fantasy world because they're afraid to go out yet They yell they're and they yell that liberals are in bubbles. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

They're so mad that people sit in their rooms and play video games and yet at the same time They're sitting in with the fucking proud boys getting tapped on the soul on the shoulder Name five chocolate bars, uh, uh, uh, uh, mr. Goodbar pop. Oh, no, uh, uh, but but finger Why was why was mr. Goodbar the first one you came up with because it has it has peanuts I like peanuts chocolate. All right. Is there anything more you need? You're gonna have to put down the mic a bunch For the segment that's about to happen because it's so bad So at this point I tweeted about this and I felt really kind of bad about the tweet I made because

I felt like I might have been misaligning the conversation a tiny bit I I didn't Okay, but it's within my name. I will be the judge of that my Unvarnished rage. Well, it's within my very nature to second guess points that I've made Okay, even things I've researched or experienced. I still second guess in question like a cuck. I tweeted that uh, Mike Cernovich Gavin McGinnis and alex jones were having a rousing round table about how women secretly want to get hit by men Right. I tweeted that and then I felt really insecure because some guy tweeted it at Mike Cernovich And I got really scared that I was going to have to defend it

And I was worried that they would edit it out of the rebroadcast and I wouldn't be able to find the evidence Okay, uh, here comes the evidence. There we go I want to say that I was a little bit wrong because they were specifically talking about feminists, but at the same time the go fuck themselves. Yeah, and Here we go. This is a this is an act A play that will come out in at least two acts maybe three Here is the first one of it and it's sort of about how feminists secretly want to be slaves great Well, also, and I don't I don't want to get too sort of

Um, you know family friendly, but a lot of feminists do have very dark desires 50 shades of gray So a lot of copies and you know, so there might be a little bit they make Um, I want to say that if this is my yeah, if women have any sort of sexuality that means they're disgusting Well, thanks fucker. I'm gonna go back to the beginning because I need to I wanted to point out We haven't really heard his voice all that much. This is Mike Cernovich. Okay. Uh, we've mostly had Gavin clip so far Cernovich has kind of been silently side so this is this is Cernovich being spouting his brand of uh Misogyny and so what I will say he comes he's a little bit more self-aware than the other two

It'll play out in a second, but here this is him. Okay Well, also, and I don't I don't want to get too sort of Um, you know family friendly, but a lot of feminists do have very dark desires 50 shades of gray So a lot of copies and you know, so there might be a little bit They maybe they like that dominant component of islam and maybe feminism maybe they've suppressed it And we kiss their ass on respect is but the pure dirtiness of it They get off on like the slave brothel in the Because in a lot of them that they want to have women in that position

So they want to be managers in islam over the other slave women, right exactly. So there it's they're so repressed now that there's a counter reaction They would say well, I would rather be dominated by these people Rather than deal with these beta male and Gavin that's a smart point. You make that point similarly Everybody really wants the strong alpha male figure the problem is not enough of them. You just pointed that out It's a shortage. It is our fault. Men are not being men. We caused this So so that there's the paradigm then they see islam and think oh, that's a daddy So that's a smart point as you screamed over that clip Uh, it's men's fault because we're not being real men and we're just dumb beta. So so is islamic men are being real men

Yeah, because they're beating the women according to alex I don't think that's really I feel like they don't know what they're saying at any given point in time Certainly not and I want to say i'm not taking this unfairly out of context. No, this is exactly what they're saying These are the words they're saying. Yeah, these are the words. They're using to speak. I mean, that's the the words Coming out of their mouths don't mean Fucking anything that's a minute long clip and it's full sentences. It's not edited at all the these Mike Cernovich comes in and he says that uh, because 50 shades of gray and these ideas about

Consensual bdsm kind of fantasies book sold most to Middle-aged moms old housewives. Yeah, exactly who should be venerated And But like do you do have you ever read like an old romance novel? Yeah, the one's a fabio on the cover and shit like that I don't know if I've ever read a fabio Romance, but a lot of those had Similarly sort of aggressive fantasies contained in them. It wasn't all just like

Super romantic flower petalesex like there was there was that sort of thread throughout romance novels through history Yeah, sexuality is a thing and you should be allowed to Experience it however you desire and nobody should fucking judge you for it. Totally. They can go fuck themselves totally but then alex relates it to Like islam slave blocks all this stuff women wanting to be slaves and here's where mike cernovich fucked up He said oh Aware just just the one place well because his point about this darker sexuality that feminists might be into

I think it's stupid But there's something you could unpack in there that is kind of interesting This idea of power dynamics right played out consensually right is is kind of fascinating There's one thing one thing I didn't know he's too dumb to really discuss it But it is an interesting thing that goes on well. He doesn't get too family friendly No, and and the by describing all of these BDSM things that feminists secretly want from their islamic managers But the idea by the way, how much do you get paid to be an islamic manager? Is it like 13 an hour?

Is it like a yeah, is it like a mcdonald's manager? Yeah over two billion serfs? Yeah, that's that's how islam works right But the idea of being submissive in your sexual life really has nothing to do with what you do outside of that And if you really want to talk about how these women secretly want to be a bit bit all that stuff Then unfortunately what you're gonna have to talk about next is all these CEOs who go to dominatrix's And all you don't have to talk about talk about pony play that these guys get into and pegging You don't have to talk about that if you ever that doesn't support your argument I have a couple friends who are dominatrix's and they've told me stories

You know leaving out people's names for privacy But like super powerful bankers and and people like that who come to them and want to get beat essentially They want to be punished and the diaper play comes into it. So it's a lot like it's a lot like if you are Uh, you know publicly a heterosexual man Uh, you might want to join a club with a bunch of shirtless men who tap you And just tap you over and over again Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, tell me more. What type of butter do you like? Oh, is it the is it land of lakes? That's the only butter anyone could come off with not the only one. I can't believe it's not butter. That's margarine. That's margarine

It's margarine. Do you know what it's made of? Butter. Yeah, uh, but that like I think we can encapsulate our position that they should have gotten to but can't By saying sexuality is an incredibly complicated and fascinating fun thing Uh, and uh, like you said you should explore it live however you desire live your life Uh, but It doesn't have anything to do with feminism wanting the patriarchy to come back It has nothing to do with this idea that alex seems to keep coming back to that is White women are going with muslim men because they want to be oppressed

Because all these white men are not men. They're cucks. I have I have such a hard time just engaging with that thought It's so dumb that I've been ignoring it as much like you said it again And it just kind of slides through my brain because it's like how do you even engage with something that makes so little sense? Uh That's kind of our show That is a good point. It's kind of the whole thing that is you've you've destroyed We just choose our spots. So anyway this next clip are going to get a little bit deeper into it And I want you to put down the mic. I'm going to let this play out. All right. All right

I'm going to play I'm going to let this play out throughout but here the subtitle of this episode is jordan Please put down the mic down Uh, but here here are the trends that I want you to keep an eye out for the things that that I think are the most interesting One is a generous use of the word metaphorical Okay, uh the second and I think this is really key is that mike sernovich has been burned And he knows what media matters is going to do with this clip and so he jumps in to save it Okay, and I actually think it's really smart of him and like we've discussed media matters is pretty manipulative Sometimes with how they choose to cut clips in terms of where the start point is and where the end point is

And I think mike sernovich is totally right now based on what I just said about his action in the last clip He's clearly on the wrong side of ideology. Yeah, but he's smart in this instance in this particular case Uh, he doesn't deserve to be hit by a truck. No, he does. He's still done other cases. He still does He deserves to be hit by two trucks. He's just smart about how he gets hit by the truck So he just wants to lose a leg. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Well, when they call us bitches and they say we're weak and they go white men need to die What they're really doing is haunting us and it's it's a met they're asking for a metaphorical now Not little they're asking for a metaphorical slap where you go

Don't you dare talk to me like that and it's John Connery sometimes a woman need at the club Right because Sean Connery that that clip he's go sometimes a woman needs to smack, you know metaphorical But yeah, we always got to be careful talking jayder I haven't got this is getting clipped right now. This is getting I I already know right now. This segment is gonna This is gonna be the century. I don't mean literally, but say you put on gangster rap at the club White woman just flood the dance floor and it'll they'll be saying things I can't say on this show about bitches and what I'm gonna do to them and the woman are just Dancing their asses off. They love testosterone and they're only pretending that they want these beta male allies

They don't have sex with them. Well, what about Alex? drier than a feminist man Huh, so there we go. There is nothing That makes a woman drier Than a feminist man I think there I think maybe one thing that makes them drier is guys discussing the moisture level of their puss That's one. Also. Hey, I want to say this nothing makes my dick limper Than women who scream about wanting the patriarchy to be in charge. You know what that I'm I'm pretty against that too

Yeah, or actually my dick doesn't even play into it. I just run away. I was like, oh, I don't talk to you I don't want to talk to you. You're working against your own self-interest. That's crazy But so this idea that like they're talking about Gavin is like whenever these girls come up on your okay cupid profile It's I'm looking for a woman who is involved in her own interests. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, good call So Gavin starts this off by talking about how Whenever women yell it and white white men should die blah blah blah all they really want is a reaction from a man They want this man to stand up for himself and metaphorically slap them in the face. Hold on and then the the the the point that's made from that is

Alex Jones bringing up Sean Connery's quote and then Cernovich jumping into being like metaphorically. Yeah Sean Connery was talking literal. Yeah. No Sean Connery Has slapped a woman before and that's what his quote was about literally hitting women the times that he's hit women Now Alex Jones comes in and it might have been buried in that a little bit But you can rewind this and listen to it again. He said I I've never I I'm not hit women I find that that doesn't work And then he mumbles from what I've heard Yeah, I don't know if he's hit women, but that's a bad

That's a bad quote. You know what a better quote is don't hit women Yeah, but that's not one they can really say no not really that one wouldn't that one wouldn't actually occur to them So then they would never have the thought in their brain don't hit women So then Cernovich rightly is like oh boy, we're getting into territory We can't defend and he has to come in and be like media matters is going to cut this which he's right He's totally right and yeah and because he said those things Now it's not really as usable of a clip for them. So he's kind of playing defense really smartly I mean, but

How how is that how is that defense like if you put the whole clip on there? Then all you're really showing is that these guys Legitimately believe that what they're saying is fine. Yeah, and one guy has the slightest amount of Clever instinct to say Well, look at them Choosing to report our words, but he has the wherewithal to be like guys guys. This territory is not great We're in we're in murky territory Here's here's one thing that I really want to to make clear

The inherent horrific racism of white women Flood to the dance floor for gangster rap. Oh, yeah, that is the south saying Miscegenation is evil. No, but that is what that is that goes is pure Interracial dating and everything is wrong that goes that goes along with the just the idea of like cuck shit I mean that is entirely in that's part and parcel of it It's like these rappers are animals and they exude masculinity And so ladies these white women gravitate towards them because us white men have been pussies for so long It's such nonsense. It's fear. It's just fear

And impotence. It's just this It's it's very sad. It bums me out. It is a bummer. Yeah, and you're you're totally right One of the most important pieces of it is a deep-seated That is Yeah, if I was media matters That's the clip that I talk about because that is pure racism And any any argument that you could make about that not being racist or them saying well, you know I love every race and I don't believe in any kind of racism. That is pure white man fear

Well, now we could go we could go back like six or seven episodes You can find the clip of gavin mckinnis saying that most blackface was reverent So, uh, well, yeah, same guy. Well, he's not wrong to be fair. He was nigel mckinnis back then But uh, yeah, so I mean totally totally. I agree with you, but it uh Anyway, Mike Cernovich is kind of smart again Which is like I gotta steer this in another direction. These guys are going off on a hitting women tangent We can't do this. So Mike Cernovich these guys. Oh, man. These guys Going off on that hitting women tangent. I gotta be honest. I I dislike him quite a bit but from his instincts

I think Cernovich is smarter than alex and I mean that's that's very obvious at this point But he so he decides. Ah, you know what I can do. I can shift this into talking about alex baldwin That makes out it wasn't an alex baldwin who went on that ran against his daughter and was screaming at her And now he bashes trump and calls trump a massager. He's like you're a worthless pig. He sounds worse than He sounds worse than mel Gibson gonna do no, he did First of all, no, he didn't mel Gibson was yelling sugar tits and being anti-semitic at a cop that pulled him over and he was wasted I also also back the fuck up. Who gives a shit? Yeah, who gives a shit? There's not a false equivalency No, but that's also you can't you can't be like well

He said all of this shit So immediately any criticism of trump is worthless. No, no, no But let's also back up and say that we don't really defend those actions and alex baldwin and we're not anyone And I don't give a fuck. We're not big alex baldwin fans and anthony attainment. It gives a way better trump impersonators The best trump impersonator. Yeah, so we don't even support him in that congratulations on your comedy central tv show I can't wait for that. We assume that you are listening. Yeah, of course So anyway, here we go my opinion domestic abuse are the way he talked on them at least emotional abuse Yes, I wasn't defending shan connery's things

I'm just saying they're wanting to be truly put slave brothels and smacked around and put on slave blocks So, yeah, yeah, exactly. I knew I was just I I know how they're gonna I know how the fake news works now and no, I agree they're editing what they're gonna do So, you know, we just got to make sure next turn of it's called for enslaving women Right, I can just I can just see that now But yeah, alex baldwin is a legitimate emotional abuser of women And yet he's on saturday night live big show. There's no advertising boycott. Well, no, he reportedly smacks him around So I want to know why is alex baldwin allowed on saturday night live to bash trump

Why we get taken out of context and lied about it's known trump has never touched a woman either about yeah, exactly So alex baldwin that the way he talked on that answer machine was just horrific And yet nobody's trying to advertise him Um boycott is advertised as the left gives him a pass gavin. Why do you think that is because it sports to them Donald trump it's known has never touched a woman Out of line. He's never hit a lady. He's never raped his wife She never wrote about it in a book He's never publicly said he's never publicly said that you should grab a woman by the pussy

He's definitely never walked into underage dressing rooms for his model shows. He's never You know been the target of multiple multiple Rape claims sexual harassment lawsuits. Sure never never It's known never it's known also that of all the men None are more virtuous. Also. I want to say it's it's kind of important that I think they alex just committed slander Like because I don't know of any instance necessarily and I'll be honest I haven't fully researched alex baldwin's past

But he did just say alex baldwin hits women. It is uh reported. I believe and I don't know if that's reported but That could be that could be on the cusp of I still don't care. I still don't care I still don't care the rest of the stuff is way more important. Yeah Yeah, who gives a fuck what they think alex baldwin does these guys are fucking Monsters they only care about alex baldwin because he impersonates trump. Yeah. That's the only reason exactly They care at all. And he is there. He is the liberal like He has the the clip so it doesn't matter how many How many young women are leading the charge against this bullshit because alex baldwin has a dumb ass clip where he does

Bullshit shit. They can then compare it negatively to fucking whatever it is. They goddamn want. Yep That way they never actually have to engage with the fact that it's Fucking monstrous what it is. They're saying. Yeah, what is they're doing and how they're trying to take away agency from women And all of this horrific fucking bullshit the cancerous ideas that they're perpetuating on this show and flippantly Is insane. It's it's yeah and and to To be saying these sorts of things out of one side of their mouth and out of the other side be like I don't understand why people think we're racist or hey women It's like you don't understand the the implied pieces of the things you're saying because you're racist and you hate women

But now we'll get to something that's a little more fun We're off the the women chunk for now and we're going to get into gavin mcginnis talking about how The left is dumb. You know, do you know why it's good? Do you know why I really like it because I hate feeling self-righteous? Like I am not a I am not some sort of paragon of virtue. No, I have dumb thoughts I think dumb things. We've both we've both fucked up a lot in our lives I'm not I'm not some sort of like high road Self-righteous bullshit, but this is this is fucking horrific. Well, this is truly monstrous

I don't know who cares. This is gonna get worse I promise you great, but for now, it's okay. You know how I love it But for now, you know how you've already put me through the most anger I've experienced in many many a year But for now The king of the proud boys is going to come in and explain that the left is dumb And that the right is all about facts Yep, and then alex is going to say some facts and then as soon as the clip is done I'm going to tell you the real facts. All right, so enjoy this clip. This is going to be a fun roller coaster ride

You know, they followed obama through everything. They followed clinton through the cigar incident That's their team the dalas kill boys. But one thing I love about the right I mean, it's frustrating that we're fractured, but we're also rational and we're here for the truth So we drag your heels out when you lie to us or when you're a hypocrite or when you do something wrong They're not in it for truth That's why every time you ask them for a number like how many legals are there or how much do we spend per student? Uh per year they have no they don't have the remotest idea one woman told me there's 70 billion illegals in america So that looks jones fake laugh there, but also one woman one woman which woman told him there were 70 billion illegals

That's insane. I mean, I don't know a dumb person a dump a very dumb person Who told him that who might not exist? It might it might just be a completely made up thing also the people who like to inflate the numbers of illegal aliens, uh, which again is Not the right nomenclature. You don't want to call people illegal Undocumented immigrants whatever the be that as it may people who like to inflate that number are people on the right So someone's saying you mean that dude who said that three million illegal immigrants voted in the election despite there being a Just statistically impossible number

You mean that weirdo dude on twitter who had like eight followers and then All of a sudden exploded and he's been interviewed on new the news a bunch He's like I got sources and then he never has cited any of them never cited any sources. Yeah that guy Never never acknowledged the fact that that would be quite literally impossible. That's one of my favorite things that has gone Very unanalyzed By I think most of the population is where that Like sort of myth started. I might write something for the website about that just because of how stupid it is It's unbelievable. But the idea that

there's more immigrants undocumented than uh Less is a Conservative right-wing idea. So someone's saying there's 70 billion is probably a right-wing dumb dumb that he's talking to More than a left-wing dumb dumb or just a fucking Lunatic just a dumb dumb somebody who does not know that there are only seven billion people on this planet Right. So now we get to alex jones laughing quite literally that means that a lady told him

There are more illegal immigrants than the number of human beings who have ever existed by a factor of 10 Yeah, what do you talk about the current population? Well, and even if you're talking about the entire human existence It's estimated at 50 billion. But what about ghosts? Damn it. Yeah, you always get me 12 dimensional ghosts Shit, so uh, I can't win where we cut the clip alex was fake laughing and now he's gonna get into his rant about facts Great And you realize oh, yeah, this is all posturing to you That's right people posture intellectually because they have no data

Then they call people that are informed conspiracy theorists That's how they have their past to not be informed because there's 35 million illegals conservatively. There's seven and a half billion people in the world There's 335 million in the united states. There's 1.5 billion in china. There's a billion point Uh point five in india. They don't know any of this stuff. They don't know the population latin america's 689 million They don't know the population of mexico's 126 million But to them though that's oh that's conspiracy theory. He's just showing off Yes, anytime somebody tells me the population of a place. I'm like, that's a conspiracy theory, right? That's stupid That's dumb. That's really that makes no sense. No, but also he's just rattling off facts

But they're not facts. Well, yeah, no if you know five things then that means everything you know is true Let me walk you through each one of these. All right So alex jones said that the population of the world is 7.5 billion people and that is about correct So that one i'll give it to him. Let's go with we got one on the board for alex jones alex jones said there's 5 million illegal immigrants in the country Conservatively conservatively. So that would be roughly 10 percent of the entire united states population according to the pew research center There's 11 million illegal immigrants as of 2014 but the trend has been moving downwards every year

Yes, even according to the wacky ass website world news daily the figure in 2016 is 10.5 million Right, so even according to right wing wing ding sites. It is a third of what he's saying Yes, and the actual number is probably right in there 10 million or so Somewhere around there, which is a third of what he's saying got you Chinese population 1.5 million billion alex says the actual number is 1.3 billion which seems small, but that's billions so 0.2 million off or no 0.2 billion off. So 200 million people off. Yeah, that's a bit I am willing to give him the bullshit round up I'm going to give him the bullshit round up. I'm not I'm not all right because when we're talking in billions. That's

200 million people is off. Gotcha And the thing that's interesting to talk about when you talk about that is that it the percentage of the world's population that that represents Has been trending downward every year for for a great number of years. Well, yeah So the they are growing slower than the rest of the world. I mean, they're one child pop or their one child policy has Really backfired on them in that because culturally they want more men Now women outnumber men like in the dating age Nearly 10 to 1 So of course their population is dwindling and it's going to continue to so the one point 1.5

It's more significant that he's 0.2 off because it's trending downward Yes, so he can't even be like well it'll eventually get there because it probably won't no it's only going to continue decreasing Says india's population is 1.5 billion the actual number again is 1.3 billion Right and the interesting thing there is their actual population growth has been trending downwards every single year since 1983 I did not know that. Yeah, so india's population is actually getting Smaller percentage wise every year their their growth has gone down. Okay Uh, so that I mean he's again. He's off by 200 million people And the factors of what's going to happen in the future off

He says that the population of the united states is 335 million the truth is it's 326 million Again, not that far off. I'm gonna give him that but if you're giving a test Like if you're in school and you're giving a test That's pretty substantial. Yeah, I'm still gonna give him that one It's significant. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt on that one He said the population of latin america is 689 million What does he include as latin america? That's what's interesting. That's a bullshit the definition of latin america What he really means is people who aren't white the definition of latin america is a very nebulous thing

Yeah, uh, if you only consider south america in central america, then the total is 603 million You have 177 million living in central america and 426 million living in south america Now if you add the caribbean to it, which you add like hadie and cuba you come up to 626 million Which is still 70 million short of what he is trying to say I don't think you're going to be able to get that with weird Uh, unaffiliated islands that appear around, you know, they have populations of like 6,000 or something like that Yeah, one volcano now if you want to say the difference between 689 million and 626 million isn't substantial That's fine except for the fact that he's using it to show off how much he knows, right? So that's important

China 1.5 billion I know that to be 100 correct because liberals They don't know what to say whenever you say that you know the population of china And then if they say if they come back with a 1.3 billion, then you're gonna be like I'm only 200 million off and that's only what And then you were fucking you hit women right but it more to the point I think the thing that's more important is that he has these Facts that he's memorized that aren't accurate or are vaguely accurate

And it's like a middle schooler trying to pass a test and hoping he's close enough And he yells about that. It's like when you know fact everyone thinks you're a conspiracy theorist and blah blah blah It's like no, it's not what's going on here, baby. That's not what's going on. Oh, baby. Also. Also, you're wrong Alex jones, come on darlin. You know, you don't believe that now. You know, you just won't love. He's wrong But in a way that is way not as bad as them being wrong in this next club Great Most of the so-called refugees going into europe were actually not refugees and they went there for the best welfare This was a big story. I broke which is 80% of the muslim men in europe are on welfare. What the hell?

Yeah, and moreover when I went to investigate this refugee crisis bs I found pictures where they told people don't get fingerprinted in denmark because they'll make you stay in denmark You want to go to europe and you want to go to germany austria for the big box the welfare? I kid you not they actually admitted. Yeah, so they actually are saying don't go to denmark. Well, wait a minute. You're a refugee I've been to denmark. I loved I could live in denmark But if you're a refugee from a war-torn country, don't go to denmark because they might let's not be mean It's admitted they have like hundreds of times increased birth defects Because they come from inbred villages

We're gonna come back with gav mcgannis. You're gonna say it was okay to To marry your first cousin. He was wrong. Muhammad was wrong. Sorry guys You do that 40 generations in a row and you got a real serious problem on your hand That's worse than radiation. Exactly. Gav mcgannis is coming up next segment So we have a lot to unpack there and I have a lot of facts. Wow So alex jones screamed uh, wow Mike sernovich is coming in about this welfare stuff and alex jones comes in with 80 percent of all islamic men are on welfare I did a little bit of research into this and what I was able to find is an article liberal conspiracy theorist

I was able to find an article on family security matters dot org By a gentleman named dr. Sammy our all rabbi And at the title of this is turks in germany are a time bomb And I found this article and I found some other articles that were talking about The 80 figure of muslim men in europe on welfare and they all linked back to this article Okay, now this is our this is our uh, you know germination point It appears that way. Okay. Now. I don't know there might be some other thing

I'm missing but it appears that everything all roads lead back to realm as it were Okay, uh, this article has literally no citations in it. It has no links to any Studies it only has quotes from people that May be Childly literature might be you know what the least manly thing you can do is cite things exactly So a real man. So this guy says that uh, very few turks turkish immigrants In germany have a regular job about 20 percent the other 80 percent live on the so-called hearts for state social benefits 70 percent of their children have no education essentially they leave school before they finish basic education

now the argument that this An article lays out is That there's a scam going on with these immigrants that come in and for every child that they have They get a certain amount from the state But oh, do you mean a very similar argument to one that was made about welfare queens octo mom Odd odd how this pervasive lie would be Used against any part or any parcel of immigrant population or any kind of demonized population that you can use To fucking unite a large group of assholes to vote against their own interests or even support things that are just fucking insane

Like any number of genocides that have occurred over the years now, but yeah, let's talk about the turks Which again? He is citing that as all muslims in all of europe and this article is only talking about the turks in germany in germany Right, but also i want to say that i i've i've read this article and it doesn't really have anything concrete in it It has quotes from people who like like this it has pie creed in it like this Uh, so amazingly this is a quote amazingly enough some turks who live on the generous state benefits Can afford to buy a house or an apartment and drive luxurious cars like Mercedes or bmw says claus a landlord whose tenants are a case in point It's a first name. There's no there's no way

I will trust anyone named claus. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's not gonna happen claus kinski. I would never trust him He's a lunatic Anyway, you get my point like they have just first name people who are anonymous random sources Yeah, it tells an interesting story of these mooch queen Immigrants that are coming in. Oh, man. It's not based on anything. I see no evidence of this. Nope It's it it's it's shoddy journalism and i want to say this too. This is on family security matters dot org So i looked into it. I looked at their twitter feed their most recent tweet Uh was a uh, here it is a frustrated israeli defense minister criticized the un for ignoring the issue of palestinians killing palestinians

Yeah, that's a really big. That's a really big issue right now. Yeah, let's let's not miss the forest for the trees Definitely don't want to worry about the israelis committing a an apartheid state across that no, definitely don't want it It's palestinians killing. You know, it's a lot like black on black crime. Right, you know, they're not talking about that They're just talking about how the cops are killing people all the time. So not black on black crime So you get you get all lives matter dan all lives matter you get the sort of Proud boys proud boss you get the sort of sense that like this is a website that Is really a propaganda website and especially yet again anti-arab it's and this seems to be the root Again, I can't say definitively. That's where all of it's coming from

But it seems like most of the articles that I could find linked back to this article that again had no evidence Outside of unattributed quotes, right? So I can't I can't go on that that 80 percent number can't I can't do it, bro I just can't so then We get into All of the defects all of the child defects a hundred percent child a hundred percent more. What was it? What number what magnificently who cares bullshit number did he use? It's a really have so many more defects than ours Because that's what the people are these fucking every every tiny little aspect of this every tiny little fucking aspect of this Is rooted in this deep-seated white supremacy

That if they were ever to just fucking look in the goddamn mirror and see that for one fucking moment Maybe uh-huh. I have two things to burst this bubble. Okay first thing is some statistics from the march of dimes and From humanitarian organizations to march of dimes. That's actually the merchants of death. I don't know if you knew that the m.o.d Is a great movie the instance of Child deformities is about three percent In the united states. Yes, and it is about six percent around the world Most of this has to do with malnutrition a lot of it has to do with a lot of countries not having access to vaccines These sorts of things which cause autism and now one of the other things is when you talk about defects

Just because it's a really big umbrella term it can mean a cleft palate Which is not like it's nothing. That's that's bad my oldest brother had a cleft palate. It's bad But it it's not the it's not as severe as some other birth defects So all of that gets lumped in together and the six percent can be a jarring number But when you when you get down to it some of them are things that are easily treatable. Yeah, and some things aren't Yeah, it's not it is still not a it's still not a relative quality to measure what you would call a race by No, that is not it it doesn't matter It doesn't matter if the it doesn't matter if the birth defect population for the world is ten percent

If you are pointing to a specific subgroup of people And calling them the group of people that has the most genetic defects That is never going to be based in in any kind of statistical analysis And it's always going to be based in bullshit fucking xenophobic racism But i'm just a liberal trying to bring facts into this. That's all i'm just trying to bring these these statistics Conspiracy theorists. So now uh, you look like you secretly want to be dominated by an islamic man, but it ain't secret But then gavin mcginnis comes in and he's like muhammad said that you can marry your cousin He's talking about in the caron

I hate it. I hate it when I hear that as a liberal cuck who just wants to be loved by the islamofascist state I don't like to hear when muhammad was wrong. Well, here's here's the second prong of my Busting of this bubble. Is it that muhammad didn't say that? I mean, it's in it's in the texts. It's oh, is it? He did say you should marry your first cousin Well, no, I mean it's in the caron that people married their cousins. Oh, yeah Well, it's in the bible too bingo genesis super in the bible genesis for i mean fucking know his family Just had to have a fuckfest the whole time on that boat genesis 417 kane has a wife though There's no account given where his wife comes from accepting direct direct creation from god

Or in that area contained groups of people not mentioned in the bible and the god didn't create the possibilities for kane's wife Or that she is either a full sister of kane or that she was kane's mother eave Or from some later generation of descendants Because time was really weird in the bible and people lived like 900 Uh And elisha still isn't dead Um, buh buh buh buh by one of the tales, uh Beep boop boop

Abraham's son isaac married rebecca his first cousin once removed the granddaughter of his father's brother nehor and niece milica By the way right in there his brother Nay, uh, his father's brother nehor married his niece melica Uh, so there's another instance of cousins banging. Do you mean another instance of hot cousins banging? You know for me? That was abraham's brother nehor married his niece melica the daughter of his own brother haran Uh, I mean it just it goes on and on. There's yeah, it's almost like if you took, uh You know religious texts and went through them you'd find a lot of dumb ass shit

Jacob married leah and rachel who were both sisters. There were the daughters of uh leban Do you want to know something crazy? Leban was the brother of jacob's mother rebecca. This would make jacob cousins with leah and rachel Do you know what's the weirdest thing? Uh, so my parents, uh, are of the uh, the hardcore christian variety And they have sung this song at multiple weddings that is about Uh Isaac marrying his cousin and at no point in time did they ever connect those dots like they never quite figured that out Sure as being like oh wait

Maybe that's not a good thing or even onward christian soldiers. Yeah, this is about killing muslims Yeah, uh in genesis 38 juda the fourth son of jacob mistook his daughter-in-law tamar for a prostitute while she was veiled and had sex with her You know what i'm saying, uh, there's been a bunch of them where uh, what was the one where the two The two daughters. Yeah, the two daughters fucked their dad. Well because there were no suitable men around exactly And so they got him drunk. You gotta fuck your dad. They got him drunk and on two nights. They fucked him to get pregnant Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, you know, but I mean like what you know what? I'm gonna tell you this right now

Muhammad was wrong when he said that lot should have fucked his daughters There's just like I mean it is again that just goes to racism that goes to xenophobia Pure racism because all of these instances exist in religious texts because again, we talked about this before They were written fucking long time ago. Yeah, people died when there were 20 Maybe we should just bail on them No, I think there's something to be gained from them if you approach them with a metaphorical understanding if you don't get in Who cares jordan? This is actually what we should end the show with okay because it's not what we're going to end the show It's not because there's

You're giving yourself notes during the show that you're not paying attention No, no, I'm saying that we should end the show with this because it's how a lot of our shows end up ending Oh, okay, uh, but there's so much worse shit after it that we have to keep discussing it. Oh my god, but but this Guys, just know listen to this. This is how we would have ended the show if it hadn't broken bad after this Other talk shows behind the scenes I'm not not Gavin others the people I know are just I want to get off here. This is horrible. There's not enough to cover I I've got like 20 incredible clips hundreds of stories. They're all insane And I'm not even going to any of them because it's talking about the world so amazing

But I'll be honest with you as you go back to Gavin McInnes But also when he's saying that people want to get off the air he has to be talking about like oh, you so want to get so No, he's talking about the other people who work at info wars. They're like, I can't handle this. I can't do three hours What are we fucking talking about? He's like, I got all these clips. It's all crazy. I don't cover any of it You're right. You don't cover any of it brought us in Too drunkenly ramble to your friend roger stone one night. Mm-hmm. You son of a bitch, alex jones Listen, I can do six hours who cares man. Whoo. Listen Even rob do doesn't like you anymore

You when you lost rob do when you lost the do rob do is the bellwether Anyway, here we go I feel guilty Because I'm so cheerful and happy and not even Showdown in north korea. Sorry about that. It's already 1 30 a.m. Their time right now in north korea They're preparing to test a nuclear weapon and launch missiles at japan according to kim jong un's own statements Trump says that they fire a missile. He'll shoot it down

The north korea says they'll respond with a nuclear attack on south korea tokyo Japan as well as the fleet or amada as trumps calling it and i'm just sitting here calming on. Oh, yeah Hey, yo, let's go get steaks tonight or whatever. So people think i'm alarmist I'm being way too calm. We're going to get them again. It's a moment about this speaking of uh being calm here They banned us off Ad role they googles started to restrict this the democrats are openly calling for us to be banned We had like 3.3 million dollars last year on ad role. It was money. We made to fund the operation It wasn't profit was money. We made to then fund this operation. You broke. I go out and advertise outside the show to be able to

Pay for it. You broke. Uh, and because i've learned they go out for sponsors sponsors are fickle You know, whatever we have some Especially the network. I have my That's you the american people And so we're having a christian even if you're not christian, it's politically incorrect to say it Oh, you Religious special for eastern motherfucker of 30 to 40 off water filtration systems You name it. Jesus. Just want you to buy a water filtration system great clean water for your family your children

taste so much better it actually cuts off The lord implores you to buy that water filtration system And god slept upon the seventh day and said that water is gotta be run through that filtration system Yeah, I mean that was like leviticus 12 seven. He said that water's dirty, baby. Yeah, yeah clean that water, uh Listen, no rock badgers. No shellfish by my filtration But you know, that is how our show is generally end That is pretty much something really super serious and then like whoops sales pitch Because he's doing that like north korea shit and being like, ah, i'm super cheerful. Yeah, I do like I do like how

and and again, I Like It is very alarming We should all be very alarmed. Yeah that both the united states of north korea are threatening nuclear warfare It's really bad. Yeah, but I mean the more and more I think about it And I mean this is going to come out on monday. So who knows what'll happen on sunday but like The more and more I think about it the more I realized that it is just kind of two assholes yelling at each other

Yeah, you know, like this is kind of normal these these exercises with south korea are normal It does happen every year. The only thing that's different is we have a lunatic as a president And that makes it you just hit the nail on the head that makes it scarier But at the same time it all could not end up going bad It could not go it could end up not going tits up You you and I both go back and forth on this where a week ago you were texting me like I'm afraid this north korea shit is going to go down. This is the one that does it for us Yeah, yeah

Now you're telling me like, you know, this kind of thing happens all the time I'm freaking out and a week ago. I was telling you the opposite Well, we we need to get on the same page on our nuclear alarmism internally I'm still freaking out a little bit, but I just I I think we can make it out of this I think it can be okay But I don't know what's gonna happen next week because it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't just become Hey, we're friends now. You know, it doesn't work that way just like I'm on at this point

I'm just tired just like guys Pick one if we're gonna have nuclear war just fucking get it over with don't do the brinksmanship Just be like, hey either we're gonna kill each other or we're not and then let's move on from here Stop it with the edge play. I know come or not. Let's just fucking blow the load Or not one of the two payload So are blow it in your mother of all bombs and Muhammad listen

I'm coming for you. All those birth defects probably wouldn't have happened If the mother of all bombs had been fucked or if they just filtered their water 30% now off at info or store.com. Now that would be a great transition. Thanks. If you pulled that one I would give him to see I am great at the transitions and this is another thing I want to point out. Alex is terrible If you listen to that, he's like, I'm way too calm. Speaking of calm Government's trying to take all my money That's not calm at all. That's you're terrible at what I do. No, Alex You dick stop trying to get into transition game

So this next clip is really dumb and I'll uh, it illustrates another example of uh, Gavin McGinnis, uh, not having a real story but giving an anecdotal source about something that proves his point But doesn't uh, and then I want to get back on the other side of this and uh, do some hole punching Information in america all of a sudden it's available to everyone and guess what? That's why these millennials are the most red-pilled millennials in three generations. They're 15 percent Uh, saying they're conservative. Uh, whereas before my generation in baby boomers. It was like two or three percent Well, let's talk about generation z generation z millennials are either total cult members or awake Yep generation z though. I'm talking like eight-year-old kids that were run up to me

I don't know what is going on. What's happening with generation z, you know, uh eight years old to say 15 years old right now Yeah, well, you know, there's I talked to a kid the other day. I had him on my show. He's 15 and he works near the coca-cola factory I think that's in Idaho. I can't remember but he said the students are about half conservative Uh, the parents are like 80 percent conservative 100 percent of the teachers are hyper hyper left-wing and tell us that we can't argue certain comments I said, well, will you get an f if you write an article on how uh, On asking on how great trump is he goes? No, no, I wouldn't be allowed to write it Like you have to say what the assignment is you'd never be able to write that

So I just keep saying these kids get enough Write the assignment that you want do it well and get enough These kids we have to show education that the free market of ideas is more dominant than your hysterical Marxist dogma and then call the newspaper when they don't let you publish it Call the newspaper when they block you make an issue out of it. Yeah, you know newspapers The thing that the true injustice Is that they won't publish pro trump articles from 15 year olds?

Right and that is their true injustice and I've said this about newspapers for years And publish is a weird word for an assignment in school You know, whatever. I mean like I don't believe I don't disagree with him Like if that's what you believe write it and get an f sure like to me that has the ring of something you should No, no, no, again, this is another example of a conclusion that's based on a false premise. Yeah, exactly The premise is wrong. There's no way a teacher is like, oh, yeah, no, you want to talk about trump being good You can't do that. I mean there have to be some teachers who would do that right where this is a human race All things are possible. I would bet that more likely, uh, it didn't fit the parameters of the assignment

I imagine that that's the case. I would bet that more likely it was a science paper. The uh, yeah, the uh, uh The fact that you can't wear american flag t-shirts in school anymore Is more to do with you being a horrible racist and not because they hate america possibly we've proved that but uh, So I want to get into this uh, millennials, uh, do not skew more conservative than, uh, democrat The numbers are actually down, uh, uh, in past all across the board past times that, uh, The the republican democrat party affiliation numbers have been taken that was actually as the education increases The participation of the g.o.p decreases. What's actually surged is independence, uh, which is I think that's heartening

I think that's probably the two of us. Uh, yeah, but we We fiddled back and forth. I think we're definitely more liberal than conservative But I think I think we're mainly we're not beholden to the democrats or no and they've they've let us down many times I think I would I would say we're more progressive And that that has a different connotation than independent. Yeah, uh, very much has a different connotation than independent. So, um That is wrong him lying about that's just a lie That's just a lie the pure research center has a very uh, in-depth polls about millennial party affiliation party leaning those sorts of things and uh It's far more democratic and independent and independent could be libertarian too like those sorts of things

It's possible But uh, it doesn't bear out in terms of the statistics now when they're talking about generation z when they're talking about the youth What what generation z I haven't heard that that's under millennials. It's under young young. It's the yeah, and it's the underbosses So that is a population that it's very difficult to get statistical information because they're 12 Right, they don't it's really hard to get statistical information. They have never voted before right There's not fully formed adulthood in them

Not all of them are geniuses at six year old who feel like 85 year old men It's incredibly difficult to get demographic information about them in terms of their political beliefs, of course However, there was one study that was done by the hispanic heritage foundation They did a study where they polled and just because it's the hispanic heritage foundation doesn't mean it was all hispanic kids or anything like that There was I wasn't going to say that i'm just saying for the audience The just in case the the word is a sticking point Okay, they did a study of 14 to 18 year old high schoolers Uh, they polled 5 000. Uh, i'm sorry 50 000, uh students

And here's what they found They found overall 34 were in favor of trump 20 were in favor of clinton 31 said they would not choose to vote in this election Okay, so that's overall, okay all right Obama's job approval ratings 41 approve 25 disapprove

No opinion 28 percent because they're children Yeah direction of the country positive seven percent negative 55 percent smart kids don't know 34 percent smart kids But again, you get back the negative and the don't knows I agree with both. All right, but gavin's argument that generation z loves trump Non-sensical well, but you could and yet hold on more sensical than I would prefer you could take this 34 favorability for trump and 20 favorability for clinton out of the overall statistics and say that means there's an overwhelming conservative uprising that's going on they love trump they love nationalism. What have you? But I would again say I would my argument there would be

These are children who are greatly influenced by their parents and your trump leaning parents are going to be much more Domineering in regards to what it is. You're supposed to believe jordan Can I do a better job than you at explaining this because I've read the rest of this? I don't think you can I've read the rest of the study. I think it's impossible They break down the history in the history of this podcast You've never done a better job of explaining shit than me. They break down the statistics even more Hmm Among african-american respondents

7% trump 47 clinton who would have guessed 33 still would not choose to vote 33 still not gonna vote Well, you know that's smart though, too the government not traditionally good to them disaffected Asians 18 trump 26 clinton hispanics 12 trump 31 clinton Now we get down to what do you think the numbers on white folk are let's get down to it They specifically broke down the difference between white males and non-white males shocker White males 58 favorability for trump kill us all 8 clinton genetically engineered by yaku 21 I would not choose to vote we're aliens

Obama approval ratings 27 approve 45 disapprove white people are evil non-white males 22 trump 30 clinton 34 i would not choose to vote in this election Obama approval rating 59 yes approved 16 disapprove kill us all That's very big no more white males. That's very big. It's bad for us 58 approval rating for trump among white males 8% clean. Do you know what's crazy about this show? What's that for? For somebody who rails against white genocide so much He's the best reason for why it should happen

But you know what he does he uses arguments and then doesn't engage with the rest of the facts in that argument That prove that he's wrong. Of course. It's insane It is truly insane this this entire this entire episode has been about him Insinuating that all of the people most damaged by what he believes secretly want it So that's they can't get enough. That's the justification that they use for all of the evil shit that they do is that secretly Everyone actually wants it. Yeah The the fact that they that the fact that the system itself Is built around supporting this miserable ideology

Is what they use as evidence that the miserable ideology Should be what's going on and the idea that this study if you looked at it Very loosely and didn't engage with what the actual study says and all the rest of the stats in at the breakdown You could say the youth are super into trump and what the reality is it's mostly the hitler youth are super into trump It's white dudes the rest of the people are not super into it the part that's actually disheartening and it is that white women are also fairly It's pretty close to even but it's still slightly in favor of what is it? It is white people Genetically engineered by yukub and it's race somehow trumps

gender in terms of identity Anyway, this next slew of clips jordan slew there's a slew we have like four I think coming up We're on eight and a half hours long in this podcast. We're at 210. Oh, okay 210 two minutes 10 then we got plenty of time for a slew of monstrous clips the next four clips or so are all bigotry They're all just bigotry straight up that they don't understand is dumb They don't understand it's bigoted and it's we'll just take it as it comes

Just take it as it comes. All right. All right, even then then liberal colleges I mean high schools have giant banners that say we need more queer families Why these kids are 14 Imagine if a heterosexual walked into a group of fifth graders and said I'm going to teach you how to have sex that'd be called a pedophile No, but as long as it's liberal better than we need more white families I mean they'd be hysterics. There'd be riots in the streets They are gone so far left that they've fallen off the deep end

I had a sex ed class in sixth grade. That's one year off of his fifth grade assessment But also I love the way he's phrasing it if some heterosexual just wandered in off the street and told him about six Also, I don't believe that there are banners that say we need more queer families I think it's probably something like respect queer families Maybe something along those lines not like hey, how are we going to beef up our queer numbers? How are we going to beef up our queer numbers? Yeah, no one's saying that. All right You are you are so close to how are we going to queef up our queer numbers?

I feel like you're wrong. I feel like you're wrong. How are we going to quit? How are we going to queef up our beer numbers? That's a shirt 30% off right now you can get a water christian you can get a free a free water filtration system if you buy our how do we queef up our beer numbers? But that's that's just like uh straw man shit. That's that's so insane. That's bullshit. That's nonsense Again, it that's made up nonsense. It's getting mad about nothing And like you chose the wrong year to be like fifth grade because that is right around when health classes teach

They put a condom on a banana and shit like that. Yeah, that happens in every school It's not like they teach you how to like they're like, okay You want to be in missionary for a short period of time and then you want to try from behind? Now that's usually better, but sometimes it's not always better So you want to communicate with your partner? Maybe she's into some btsm shit Like uh, you know, you're you're they don't teach about like ass play They don't teach about like a you know, and you know what guys like a little uh tongue in the ass Maybe they fucking should maybe they fucking should but you know, maybe we'd all have better lives if everybody was being fucked right

You know the reason they have to do that is that that is about the age that people start to reach puberty and sexual maturity Yeah, and it's the responsible age to tell kids about that sort of thing It's probably a good idea. So Alex instead of never speak about it at all. Yeah, Alex you somebody who's Been born in a call and then they have to learn I'm sorry, Jordan. I'm sorry. Sorry that your birth was prophesied. This is very personal. All right. Here we go Let's get this next clip. We we're not evil and it's funny when you talk to these guys about We're not how evil we are and we're nazis and we want to kill everyone and you listen to them when you go That sounds scary these these people they talk about a trumps america where the disabled are at risk

And gays are hiding in their homes scared of being killed and you go. Jesus. That sounds horrible It is I want to help you fight these people you do welcome Join us welcome Nigel mcganis. That's awesome. Bring the cowboy. You're on our team now Yeah, i'm sure that we'll agree with him for the rest of the show right nope He's joined us He's gonna fight against trumps america where gay people are huddling because they're afraid of what's going to happen to them Sure, and and and there haven't been as many overt overtures against the gay community necessarily Uh in terms of his policies except for north carolina

Well, that's just the g.o.p being emboldened and that's that's a problem but He really fucked up by choosing disabilities As one of them because why would you say that because of betsy devos Who is betsy devos? She's the secretary of education. What is her plan? She's really into voucher programs She's super into voucher programs Now here's one of the things that people don't understand about voucher programs And i'm taking this from american progress dot org

They have a very in-depth very well cited Uh article about this to participate in many voucher programs parents must sign away some or all of the Actions and rights under federal law What's more some states are not transparent about this stipulation For example, florida's mckay scholarship requires students to forfeit their rights described above And that condition is not clearly stated in the information available to parents on the state's website Now when they say the information cited above they're talking about uh special needs They're talking about the americans at the disability act. They're talking about uh the needs. Can you give me one?

situation where somebody has said Thank god i forfeited my rights No, i'm not off hand Is there any positive situation where somebody's like oh Jesus if i hadn't afforded those rights that i have I would be in such a Oh, i'd be in a pickle So now one of the rights uh that they they way they sign away if they enter a voucher school

Is the right to a free and appropriate public education You should really have that right if you're going to get an education The free and appropriate part super important school and here's what that entails Schools must evaluate children who they suspect to have a disability classify their disability and develop an individualized education program Or an iep describing the appropriate placement and services that will help the children meet grade level standards Some ieps prescribe minimal services or accommodations such as additional time to complete assignments While others include more intensive services such as the support from a one-on-one aid ieps must be re-evaluated on an annual basis to determine if the students needs have evolved and new supports or services are required

This is part of the federal protections for disabled students Yeah, this is one of the things that you wave away in a voucher program You shouldn't wave that away. No because it's very important. It's super important because the idea of what a disabled student is Is also really vague It could be someone with a mild uh behavioral problem or it could be someone with down syndrome It could be someone in a wheelchair. There are all sorts of things that fall under that categorization Now within the voucher programs also Because it you know it makes it very difficult to deal with these students because you have to create these ieps

These individual education programs because the federal law demands that these public school Or i'm sorry these private schools that you can get vouchers to get into Uh can just deny students because we oh, this would be an undue burden to our school We can't handle this or whatever and they can just say no, we don't we don't want you We do we can just reject you as a student Which is Really scary. That's a really scary world that we could be entering into and it's exactly what the person that trump has made The secretary of education wants to do it is it's his vision of education for the future so

Nigel McGinnis with your thing. There's like, oh my god. These people with disabilities are going to be screwed They kind of are they absolutely are it's going to be a very difficult world. This is very concrete This isn't this isn't some weird fear. This is based on facts. This is based on A rejection of the federal standards that are made in her confirmation hearings She seemed to be unaware of these standards She said that protections for disabled students should be handled on a state-by-state basis Not recognizing that these are federal mandates The americans with disability act and the idea are both federal standards. What is it?

What is it with the fed is fetishization of state-by-state basis? What why why would you want? Why why would it matter what one state wants to do with With disabled kids states as compared to another state states are easier to gerrymander Don't you don't wouldn't you want like why would you why would you want? Why would you want disabled kids to be treated better in one place and worse than another? Well, you don't actually want that you want Businesses to make as much money as possible and you want things to not cost as much. No, I I know I know the reality of it

I know that I know the underlying bullshit of it. The reason what is what is your possible like just Human explanation for why you would want to do that. The state-by-state part is that states are much easier to control Legislatively than the federal government. No, and I know and again I mean even even on the democratic side Illinois is super. I agree with I agree with your your cynicism because that's the reality I'm just trying to communicate with their propaganda. Where's the compassion? How could you possibly sell that? Like what what possible way could you say that? Like is your is your argument that maybe you want disabled people all to move to a state that treats them better?

Or the like is it some sort of free market situation where if Illinois treats their disabled kids better? More disabled kids are going to move to Illinois and that means that what what possible benefit well because could be achieved By making it a state's rights issue. Well because fucking cock bag Well because I have to speculate because I'm not really in that head and I think that is insane I I would say that possibly their argument would be that if These disabled kids stop getting such a fucking free pass They'll have to work harder and they will learn how to succeed

They've been coddling these disabled kids for too long I in the same way so but it no hold on in the same way that they're making this argument about cucked out white males All betas and shit like that. I think that most like I would not think it's too far Bridge to cross for us to say that Possibly they don't believe a lot of these disabilities are real and that if people are forced to stop faking it in their perception Then all this autism would go away. So all this down syndrome would go away

So it's that kind of that kind of bullshit like oh when I was a kid You weren't called ADHD. You were called an idiot, right or whatever that whole idea, right that If you just if you just ignore this kind of situation Then you'll be forced to assimilate into this Someone yeah and by by individualizing this you are You are what like? Validating it. You're supporting it. I don't know like like it doesn't it doesn't make we have now entered the area where I I can't further defend it with the hypothetical because I don't know. Yeah, I don't know this is all this is all

insane This is all this is all cruelty masquerading as A a constitutional issue. Yeah, but it's always like we need to we need to support Or we need to separate the federal government from the state's government is just a masquerade of We should allow certain people to be cruel because that's what they believe in Which is so insane to me that they can't then make that one Tiny fucking leap to all of their arguments against there are all of their arguments for their islamophobia

Like that's exactly what they're doing They're saying oh islamic people want to be treated differently based on their cultural ideology and their belief system And we think that that's evil and everybody in america should be held to the same standardized american set of values But at the same time that american set of values should be separated between the federal government and the state's government Which means really what you're saying is that alabama rights should be different from fucking islamic rights Should be different from fucking illinois rights. No, it's all a made-up nonsense bullshit way of saying

I don't Care right about anybody but people who look and act exactly like me somewhat Yes, that's what it is no and if you do not call it that if you do not fucking commit to that reality That betsy devos is literally saying every single day of her goddamn life I could give a fuck if you don't look exactly like me Act exactly like me or feel a little weird the exact same set of values as me you deserve to be treated like Shit. Yeah, you just you don't deserve the protection. That's what that is. Yeah. There's no other. There's no other explanation for it

There's zero other possible reasonable explanation Now that's a fun thought that you just gave me through that rant which I agree with you, but like uh, sorry No, that was great. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be very calm now. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do an impressive I'm gonna do an impression of alex jones. Well said. I'm so calm. I'm so calm So, you know, just to remind you google is taking away all of our money Right is 30 off of we need to queef up the beer shoes So like uh, I'm so calm right now uh

One of the fun thoughts that came to me during that rant was that like now let's say apropos of nothing Um, arkansas decided they wanted sharia law, right? states rights states rights would say that they should Are they now going to defend that? Like if let's say white people in no, of course, oklahoma said like or uh, arkansas said we want sharia law states rights Yep, of course, they would defend that. No, they wouldn't no in the same way

Not in a fucking heart in the same way that when the satanists wanted to put up a statue of satan right next to the 10 commandments All of the people who are about religious freedom said we absolutely support that we love the satanists They totally did they absolutely did remember how hypocrisy isn't real. Yeah, remember how no one in the fucking God, I look this next clip. Look, I don't want to be jordan. We have to move along You're right We have to move along and I I I'm hesitant all I really wanted to hear was that i'm right. You're right dan That's all I wanted to hear you this next because my mom kicked me off her knee this next clip

Legitimately might make you more mad All right I'm gonna throw the microphone across this goddamn road. That's what's gonna happen right now at some point I might just have to hold the mic This next clip is about uh liberals treating on the last knowledge fight jordan has an aneurysm This is about liberals treating populations as pawns Where do you and your crystal ball see this fight going because They think they're tripling down with more brainwashing that somehow that'll fix their system. I think it's accelerating their collapse

Yeah, they've painted themselves into a corner. They keep choosing stupider and stupider pawns in their chess game First they chose trans and they said these are our new oppressed and we're gonna use trans they tried blacks But blacks didn't get with their pro gay stuff. So they said, all right, you're out We're gonna go with trans and you go, uh, a lot of those guys are just mentally okay I'm not sure you want that on your front lines and then the trans start winning all these women's sports And they go, uh, that's not working out. We have a female nma fighter Who who was a man just pounding the crap out of a woman and you go, oh, we're getting a little more advanced Yeah, what is that? We're suddenly all over they are accepting men and female sports when they're men

And they're obviously cheating. It's it's so crass why make the joke about the gay stuff at the very beginning I'm not against anybody Then they say all the news i'm this homophobe And make up all this weird crap because I point out that chemicals in the water are making the amphibians You know gay or whatever gay or what gay frogs, but also gay or whatever, you know real scientific Or whatever real good job gay or whatever. Um, that's super offensive. You know what you know what my Main issue with the trans community is Gymnastics that they're just mentally ill gays as Gavin says they're just if they're beating us they're beating our regular women

at gymnastics is the right term. Yeah our cis women I I hate it When i'm watching some women's basketball. Yeah, and I see a guy wearing a wig Like that movie Where that guy wore a wig All right tootsie. Oh look, I want to I want to make one point crystal clear I think that there is an interesting Discussion that will have to come up in terms of trans athletes

Because in terms of you know, musculature and and those sorts of things it isn't interesting You know the purity of the turf kind of argument rare that's very minor In terms do you mean in terms of human beings being allowed to have rights indeed? So that part I get I get where alex is coming from but it's so It's not even tertiary. It's way beyond that. So well, I think in the uh In the the congress women should be represented Uh by

Their draw at professional softball games. I think that makes perfect sense right like men draw more for baseball games This is all that we need to know about gender now. Let's take let's take a step back And uh get into nigel's argument where he's like So the liberals tried blacks, but they weren't in on the gay agenda So they moved on to trans and now trans people are just mentally ill gay people. They're like, oh, we don't want that What are you talking about? What is he talking about? That's not based on anything I don't I can't understand liberals still very much support african-american issues

Yeah, they've not abandoned anybody also the black community as a whole isn't against gay people Nope, uh, that's an absurd premise The idea that trans people are now the new blacks is stupid and reductive The idea that trans people are mentally ill gays is offensive You're just an idiot. You're just a blowhard fucking idiot. Gavin grow up it is It is it is this like You know what this such a broad boys love it. It's such a reductive concept

Not least of which for us to engage with sure because then we have to like the the trick to that is now we are Separating these groups as well when what it really is is I don't give a fuck If you're oppressed That's a big deal. Sure. That's it It doesn't matter if if there's a and and I like because what he's what he's trying to do is like Uh, conflate the fact that there is a cause uh, du jour so to speak, you know, like, um, right now When you look at north carolina, your first thought is we need to stop them from doing this trans bathroom bill

Right that whole thing that does not mean that I have changed my mind on whether or not chicago cops Need to stop fucking killing black people or torturing people, which is what they're doing Well, this is all under the umbrella of these white male fucks Are suppressing all of these different groups because again, they don't look and act like me Well, what it comes down to too is this idea that seems Like sacrilege to people like him again as that is we can keep multiple thoughts in our head at the same time Yeah, it's not really difficult to be Uh worried about the oppression of trans people and black people at the same time

And then throw hispanics in there too. No throw everybody because because at the root of it It is the same oppression. Yep It is it is tendrils of the same oppression And the the problem is that it is very much a war that is being fought on multiple fronts So no matter where it is that oppression is hitting We're trying to fight back and it just so happens that unfortunately we're We're influenced by the the the media the news of the day and I don't mean like the the news media so much as Somebody does some shit and it makes it on twitter

And then there's 10 million people Who have to respond to this on a daily basis? Yeah, and it's unfortunate that we can't focus for For a full year like like imagine if imagine if liberals could do triage Everyone's addicted to doing hot takes. Yeah addicted to being like or here's my pun about this social ill or whatever You know, yeah, yeah, yeah If we could if we imagine if we could do triage where it's like hey The first thing we need to do and all of these other problems are serious and real and devastating but the first thing we need to do is

Get equal pay for equal women. Mm-hmm. Imagine if we could just focus on that Yeah, just every single person every single day. The only thing we do the only thing we talk about is this until it gets done Then we go to the next thing Then we go to the next thing if we could do this triage because that's what the gop does better than anybody else That's definitely true. That's really what they do is they focus they fixate on one thing And that's all they talk about anti-abortion they fixate on Restricting women's rights to the point where

Uh, if that the health care law the fucking tax code The the fucking military budget all of this stuff comes back to them trying to restrict women's rights Can I make an argument for why it's kind of impossible for liberals to do that united front? I'm not saying that it's not possible. No, no, the reason why I think it's impossible is most of the issues That are being discussed are legitimately life and death For different communities agreed. So when trans people are like, hey Especially trans women of color are getting murdered a ton. All of a lot of trans youth are committing suicide It's not negotiable for them to be like, oh, yeah, let's get the pay gap get down

I agree It's difficult for them to be like this has to be our number one issue It's life and death and then you have the african-american community who are like cops keep killing And beating the shit out of us when we do nothing Agreed and it's difficult to switch focus for them off of that That's what becomes very difficult. There are life and death issues Legitimately on the left for all of these communities and I absolutely should have no say in what it is We focus on first. No, and I know that's that and and you're absolutely right

But you also chose that gap issue arbitrarily. You didn't mean that specifically to be the first one No, let's take care of but like that's why it's difficult to have consensus and unified movement Is that there are a bunch of allied? Uh causes that have like just Death and of course the reason that the GOP can unite so much is because it is old fucking white people And because they're fighting against Uh, you know, like you said tax code. Yeah, it's all it's all the same Imaginary enemy that you're fighting against the GOP is a block of the same people the left

Whereas the left is a block of everybody and they're fighting For lives Whereas most of the time the right is fighting for I don't want to make a cake for a gay dude or I want to save money And it's much easier to team up when those are your issues. It's harder when you have Blocks of people. I mean, I mean really what it comes down to is we have the most corrupt government In the history of the united states because some people Want tax cuts? Yeah, that's really what it comes down to and and just to be fair

So we're not super easily attackable. Shit wasn't great like it wasn't perfect under obama either There's still no there's a shit ton of stuff He didn't prosecute wall street in the way that should have happened immediately following the crisis He didn't fucking execute any number of different controls that we have But just so we can dodge the attack he expanded the power of the executive government to Commit fucking war crimes against countries that we have no business being without congressional oversight So of course trump is going to abuse these very same Uh things that obama himself led to I understand that to an nth degree. Yeah

Truly so look a lot of the mistakes that Obama has made have come back to bite us in a way because none of us ever expected A trump presidency them chickens. They roost and they came home to roost So we have let's get through some of these clips. Uh, this is going to be painful. But let's just do it Well, they they keep screaming at me. You need to love me more. You need to accept me You need to bake me a cake for my he's talking about the gays. Yeah Fighting and I go we're not homophobic. We don't care when I go up There was liberachi dancing around with his rings and we had paul in going

This shows me the ymca going I love to go to the ymca and meet boys and make out with men And we all went that's a catchy tune go ahead. But then they start saying no Love me and we go. Whoa. Whoa. You need to calm down. I don't care what you do So it's an act of bullying so so what happens to them is they've made this giant generation Of just jellyfish that are all into their pity parties and their grandstanding What happens to them as the whole reality turns against them? Well, here's the thing so they went black. No didn't work trans. No didn't work now. They've gone full muslim Yeah, uh, first of all, that's an evolved understanding of gays never go full muslim

Never but like that's uh, that's a really fun like hey back when I was younger We had liberachi with his fun caricatures and wept that day and it was fun We just bet that you do do do do these fun gays like paul lind and now they want to be treated like humans instead of cartoons Unfucking believable and I'm like, I don't give a shit man. Do whatever you want to do It's it's that clip was called evolved understanding of the gays Unfucking believable. Yeah. So now how do you live like that? I don't know But now we get into a clip called an evolved understanding of supra of supporting muslims What it means to support muslims and this is gonna end with what I would call an ice cold take

A take that will not age well. Oh boy Yeah, look to thwart daddy to make us mad to to make us cringe They crawled into bed with people who hate them And they've also been building a bubble around themselves where they need safe spaces and you go Well, you're a human recipe for disaster You've said I want to be weaker and weaker and weaker and make myself more vulnerable And then I want to get into bed with people who hate everything I stand for and want me to die. Good luck with that. Bye So how does it shake out? That's what I'm saying. How's it in?

Uh, they lose they come crawling back on their knees to trump and they learn to shut up because they don't know what they're talking about Yeah, that's probably how it's gonna shake out. I wish he went to berkeley No, this is gavin. Uh, I wish he went to berkeley. I wish he went to here I went to I wish I wish he went to a place where somebody I would you know what? I want to make this totally clear I would I would be welcome. I would welcome either mike cernovich or Uh, gavin mcginnis. I'd talk to them. Yeah I think I think I want to be fun. I want to believe I want to believe I am

A person who wouldn't stoop to violence But god listening to that makes me want to stoop to violence. Yeah, it's easy like how Like like it's easy to see how he gets hit. Yeah, it's not hard. It's such a simple And and it it makes me aware of my own toxic masculinity Where my first response to that is violence needs to occur Right and that's and that of course has to do with the fact that I was raised where if you did something wrong You got fucking hit with the code of the streets talk shit get hit. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, but that's how my parents My parents raised me the code of the cult talk shit get hit

So so it is it is something that just by Just like my my Response to that is part of the culture that perpetuates that sure That's really what it is But they're the and I want I want to be better than but they're the unexamined version of that. Yeah, the reason that you don't End up hitting him first of all because he's not here. But second, even if he was here if he was here You haven't had that much wine. You still wouldn't hit him. I think I think there could be a conversation It would devolve into yelling undoubtedly

What with me? You might bark at him. I would never but uh That's the difference between like Really understanding these negative impulses And saying oh no these negative impulses are what makes me great That's what makes me me. That's my masculinity I just I just don't know I I I listen to this and I worry that my reaction is exactly what They want it's exactly what will perpetuate this behavior that That i'm doing all of this shit like well, we're also laughing at them. Yeah, but I don't think that's what they want

It really does support like this this like central idea of like I am not part of the solution. Well, but you know, like that's that's really what what gets to me whenever it concerns me whenever I Whenever I hear their rhetoric and I think that the way to respond to it is with what it is Well that they're doing whenever you have thoughts like that just take a second and reflect That he started a group called the proud boys. Good point and just be like, okay That takes the piss out of him a little bit sure does, you know, like how your parents Why would I fight? Why would I want to fight how parents would be?

You know, like they tell you stories about the monster under your bed. It's like well, actually, you know, he uh, You know, he's he's afraid of uh cats or whatever, you know, like you're you're you're absolutely right It takes it takes a lot of the sting out of him when you recognize he started a Well, what what defeated the kkk in the 50s really was the superman radio show Because one of the writers for the superman radio show Uh infiltrated the kuklaks clan and that was superman's enemy for a long time And what they did was because he infiltrated the kuklaks clan. He could use their dumb Oh, this guy's the grand dragon

And so what wound up happening is people didn't join the kuklaks clan for a while Because it was so silly. Yeah, they were the enemy of superman How would you why would you join a club killer of american? Yeah called the with the grand dragon and and all of that dumb shit when superman is fighting against you proud boys proud boys Uh, so we have a couple more clubs. Why would you join the proud boys if noted satirists? A knowledge fight Are mocking them. Uh, and uh, listen this next clip

We have two more clips. Oh boy this next clip. I don't know what it is about I have completely lost track of what it is I titled it incredibly poorly. It just says definitely not stupid I think I'm assuming that was sarcastic. I think so. I'm assuming that we don't have title nine crap or any this legislation that supports their mythical view of america and they just sort of Peter out they just learned to shut their mouths and they get back into Art and music and fashion and the other things they're good at Oh, they claim they're good at so that's what it is

It's a bunch of beta losers trying to be dominant because dominance were taught it wasn't to be dominant So we stood down and then all the betas come in that doesn't yeah Imagine a bunch of 10 year old girls got into british soccer into football and they went down for a row with man You know it and went oh, you go problem or bloody eyeman you and they started headbutting soccer hooligans That wouldn't last for very long and those little girls would go back home And that's what we're gonna see within the next few years That's definitely not stupid I would argue that is uh, the the antithesis of stupid

Do you want to try and track that sentence? I'm not mine his what Did he say so he was talking about these I heard all of his words In order so he's talking about these beta. I know they came out of his mouth I don't understand do Dan yes Do words mean things no you keep you keep thinking this is where we keep getting into trouble So he's talking about these beta cuck losers who are trying to get involved in politics and right what have you is like

Eventually they'll figure it out leave it for the men right and I'll go back to art back to art and home decorating That's clearly homophobic and alex jones correctly I think they're good at it said that you know, it's actually straight white men who are good at all of those things Yeah, they're much better than it, but they're suppressed in those fields. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. We don't want them there and then Gavin McGinnis makes the stupid analogy of 10 year old girls Going to a soccer hooligan match and trying to start a fight

Adopting british accents a la Madonna. Oh, I I That's your british accent Oi, you go plays you football That's that's actually the most offensive part of that clip for me. That was a very offensive british accent not for me I don't appreciate it at all. So I mean, okay, so if you track what his analogy was it was the liberals What was that liberals in the political sphere and in this? Protest sphere they're very 10 year old girls as opposed to the soccer hooligans that are the proud boys

Okay, okay So his point was that liberals were punching outside of their their weight class as we know they punch like Yeah, we talked about that earlier, right? So yeah, that's basically what he's saying So all and they're gonna get the shit kicked out of them and then eventually go back to home decor all of the arguments and all of the clips that we've heard so far Eventually boiled down to Liberals are incapable of fighting on our level. Yes, and they mean that in a very physical sense Yes, they don't ever mean that in a like even when alex job even when alex was trying to say that

You should metaphorically hit women Yeah Or or when I was talking about how they consider them a conspiracy theorist because they don't want to engage in his ideas And he just rattles off numbers that aren't real. No, that aren't correct. It's all it's all coming back to We need to be able to punch our problems away Right. I mean, this is something that we were texting about last week Was that I'm coming to the conclusion that alex jones thinks fact checking his censorship Yeah, it is this idea that he he thinks that that might makes right

And if you are saying that he's wrong and you have Evidence to prove it. You're bullying him. Yeah And the only way to respond to a bully is we know alex puts them in comas He beats the shit out of him. Yeah, and so that kind of is all and if it's a if that bully's a dog Oh, man, we're gonna go to pull to the head. He will go fucking bonnet, but so he's he yes, absolutely. It is it is It's insane because it is that two sides of the mouth thing again It's on one side of the mouth You won't engage with my ideas and then on the other side is like i'm gonna beat the shit out of you

Yeah, that's not an idea Over the course of this episode and I mean I cut out a good bit of stuff that but not not that takes out context I cut out a bit a good bit of stuff because this was like a hour hour and a half Interview of all of them and you don't need to go into the repetitive stuff We don't need to talk about syria more than we need to right But of the stuff that they're talking about the want the things that have concrete arguments that aren't just bullshit flying out of someone's mouth We have facts. We've we've made arguments that completely deflate those arguments

We've used even the things that they cite and show that they don't say what they say Now if you want to say that like Do so so maybe So they would kick our ass though. Um the proud boys they'd kick our ass, you know Here's here's my And this this is the way I think about the the fight club Uh the chuck pelanic book don't talk about it. That's rule number one. Oh shit. Fucked Um, it is it is very much a fantasy

To the point where I I genuinely don't believe that they have any interest in acting out that fantasy But I would also argue that they really haven't engaged with the text Because even I've read the book and Like There's a lot of like uh masculinity masturbation and with them there Yeah, I've read the book as well. But I think one of the bigger themes. I'm a white male. That's what I do I think one of the bigger themes is the disintegration of the self and becoming whole again Yeah, you know, there there is a part of it that is that tyler durden personality was a negative

Manifestation of the the narrators. Well, I mean it's it's the it's your your basic, you know, like wall streets uh was supposed to Was supposed to take down that ideal of the the 80s banker who was out of control and instead wound up lionizing it Or the same thing with wolf of wall street or or the way that you look at uh catcher in the rye all too often is that Uh, that fucking bitch of a kid is the hero when in reality, he's the he's the antithesis of such often parody is not Understood by dum-dums, which is why Uh, I believe that the iris should eat their own children in order to survive. Sure. This is fact that Proposal seems modest. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely

Um, I'm not making an outlandish proposal. I'm making a modest one. Yeah, so we have one more clip It's very short and I think it sums things up and this is an argument that actually factually I can't Super disagree with but I okay, but boy. Do I disagree with it? Uh, they're just gonna acquiesce and slowly realize that the patriarchy's back and the big boys know what they're doing Sit down. It's back in town. So that's the one thing that we can't really the patriarchy's back I can't sit down. I can't really argue with that with research. I can very How much well, I mean There it's hard

It's hard to deny that the patriarchy's back in style at least no, but it seems very popular at this point time At the same time the patriarchy is a nebulous concept. I think that you could a lot of people could probably You know poke some holes in it What have you and uh and show that the patriarchy is a negative thing, but as I understand it, um Most of the people who support the patriarchy coming back what they're motivated by is a fear of women being in charge They don't think that women are capable of being in charge. Yep They're scared of women being equivalent to them Right, they're threatened by the idea of listening to women when they tell them to do things

Agreed, uh, and I think that that is one of the utter definitions of cowardice. I think it's not manly I think it's not adult And uh, if you really are super into the patriarchy, I really don't understand what argument you could possibly have Yeah, well, I mean that this is again. I don't have a study This is the thing that I think of this is the thing that I think of whenever this is brought up And I remember this just this burns in my brain for my little sister's wedding is the pastor read during the wedding ceremony First timothy 211 which is let a woman learn in all submissiveness

I permit no woman to have authority over man because adam was formed before eve. That's not a great wedding It's it was in the wedding Right. Yeah, that's wouldn't you just bail at that point if that's what you if that's what you really believe I'm fucking out of here For no reason other than god picked a dick. Yeah You should know women should never be allowed to do anything. It's unbelievable. It's not even really the dick It's physical might It's always the dick. Well, like much like you were talking about like sports being prevalent because sports has existed longer

Yeah, it's the same kind of thing. It's just back when we were caveman Uh, sort of era of our evolution Men physically dominated women ergo. We had control in most primitive civilizations There are a bunch of them that had matrilineal civilizations and some other ones that were weirder and had like a vuncular based civilizations Yeah, they're kind of swinging, you know, there are a bunch of and they were a lot happier They're yeah by every measure by every metric anthropological studies like a good way to go that Yeah, uh, but anthropological studies have always shown that male dominated societies are a pedperature war machine that winds up damaging It's well even even a vuncular ones are still sort of male dominated

But they're male dominated by a secondary degree That's basically if you're that's basically civilizations where communities raise children Where like your uncle would raise you and you'd sort of not really trade kids But there would be a communal understanding of like you your parents don't own you right that sort of thing Whereas matrilineal is the mother is the head of the community. Patrilineal is the the father Yeah, uh, but unfortunately as our civilizations have grown The as men are the mighty ones physically and the ones who are full of testosterone that leads us to war And fight with each other right the patrilineal societies seem to be the ones that have grown and the ones that have

Ex exhausted and destroyed a lot of the other ones So we end up with all of our civilizations basically that exist nowadays are the ones The men are in charge And those are the ones that have their root in the caveman days when men were physically able to Right, right the civilizations that are the best at destroying other civilizations Right are the ones that have perpetuated exactly. We're in a long game of risk and we just haven't reached the end yet Yeah, well, I mean we're getting close like year two max You know what I've I've played a lot of risk games that seemed like they were about to end

And then we're there for another seven hours. You should be on csnbc right now It's possible that North Korea is just gonna roll shitty Damn it kim jong-il kim jong-il still has oceania. What am I gonna do? God dammit Why does it always win goes to the defense? Sucks and but you know what I'm saying like that that's why That's why a lot of these these male ideas exist. It's not because of dicks. It's because of just physical might No, no, and I I agree with you. I think the problem is we know what the real solution is Uh, which is all men need to be destroyed immediately

I have a different solution. What's your different solution? I want to shave Gavin McGinnis's beard and make him eat it that Is a very good solution I fully support you But I was like to all of our knowledge fight listeners when I was like 22 if we do not advocate violence. We do however Advocate shaving Gavin McGinnis's beard and feeding it to him. Do you want to go with slowly or like big clumps? I don't care when I was like when I was like 22 23 my brother sent me a news article And it was this guy who had been screwed over in a cow deal. He'd sold some cows

And the guy who screwed him over held him y'all don't got screwed over in a cow deal The guy held him down shaved his beard and made him eat it That is fantastic from said since then I thought that was like one of the most degrading things possible Look frontier justice while not necessarily being applied equally is sometimes the best justice. Yeah So, uh, we're gonna get out of here. Uh, but before we do because this has been so Uh, toxic masculinity ish Uh, I want to take a trip back to a clip. We played on the last episode just as a gentle reminder Here we go plan. It's beautiful. I love it. Just like I love my

Mommy when I was six years old When I was about six years old, she kicked me off her lap and said like you can't be a mama's boy now You don't get any more love because you're gonna be a man That's what it comes down to And that's the man who's put on the show that we have just listened to so congratulations, alex You are a fucking murderer Alex did you just you just dropped a hammer

That's the only way to describe that all fuck. Yeah all of this fuck. Yeah relates to this This is why alex is totally fine having people like gavin mcginnis on his show Now if gavin had to fucking fill four hours a day and had been doing it for 20 years and got drunk on air a bunch I imagine he might say something he would probably have some kind of yeah Mike sernovich. Wow a crazy wing ding asshole has Been pretty outside of our scope in terms of like he wasn't nearly as bad as those two. Yeah But like that that's what this is all about. This is what it's all about. It really is you're mad at women

Uh, congratulations. God you deflated my anger so hard. Well now it's right back to being Tragic this fucking tragedy of a human being Has just influenced people who otherwise probably wouldn't be like it can't be everybody's That's what your anger should that's where it is coming back to yeah because he's influencing the proud boys exact And god damn it Yep, they exist and that sucks if you meet a proud boy Tell him that we are at knowledge underscore fight on twitter And that they can subscribe to us on itunes. We're knowledge fight

Also, you can reach us at knowledge fight at gmail.com or just at our website knowledge fight dot com Or at our new email address Uh proud boys proud boys proud boys or gmail.com or even newer email address even prouder boys Um, so yeah, this uh, this has been not super fun. I hate most of the things we talked about but no, I got angry Yeah, but I predicted that. I don't know if you noticed that or not. You did. I did Yeah, it probably came through. You know what else I noticed. Uh, what did you notice? I noticed that you and I It's a couple policy walks. Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex I'm a first-name caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you