Knowledge Fight - #309: June 10-11, 2019

Episode Date: June 14, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan return to the present day to check in on Alex Jones and see how things are going with him. In this installment, Alex spends a lot of time yelling nonsense about immigrants bringing Ebola to the US, then desperately tries to rekindle his friendship with Roger Stone, and wraps things up by having a full-on religious breakdown on air.

Andy in Kansas. You're on the air. Thanks for holding So Alex, I'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you. Hey everybody Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes like to sit around drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan. Jordan. Dan. Jordan. Have you ever worn glasses? Yes, I have as a youth. I wore glasses all the time. I grew up when I was I was born. I had a bunch of eye surgeries when I was really young And I have a cross eye that remains to this day But my vision was way worse when I was a wee boy. You had a bunch of eye surgeries? Oh, yeah

Yeah for the for the cross eye or for something else. I think that was part of it You know what? I've never gotten a fully straight answer on it To be fair, I haven't sought a fully straight answer. Okay. I just know that when I was like very young I had multiple eye surgeries. Uh-huh. Um, I can I can see fine, but yeah, I wore glasses until Middle school junior high somewhere in there And then I realized that my vision wasn't super changed by wearing the glasses and not But that when I wore the glasses it made my eyes appear less crossed. Okay, and I realized it was kind of just a cosmetic thing Okay, okay, and so I talked to my eye doctor and I was like, I don't think I want to wear these anymore people keep making fun of me

Yeah, and your doctor was like, you're a nerd. I keep breaking them too. They're expensive. My parents are poor It's no good. Yeah, the guy was like, yeah, they're probably not gonna do much for you. So I just decided Why didn't I give them to you? No, no, no, I meant you say that to the doctor. They probably did it a lot when I was younger When you were younger, they probably helped a great deal, but then my eyes grew, right? The problem fixed it's or the eye surgeries worked. Yeah, I don't know or you're actually blind right now I have no idea. You don't even have a point of comparison. Do you prove it? This is just your way of trying to announce to the audience that you got glasses. No, no, no Fantastic. No, no, no, we were talking for a couple of months. No, it was not

We were talking about it for a short minute before the show started and then and then my entire head was Cleared of everything when I was about to ask you a question. I was like, I don't what what are things I had another Glasses. Oh, yeah, I Kaiser so say I just looked around for something on your walls and I saw the glasses I kind of miss it like if I had a choice or if it were something that I didn't feel was just cosmetic I would probably go back and get glasses. I like it. I think they look good on a head generally. Yeah Look good on a head. Yep. Almost as good as on an ass, right? Classes So Jordan today

There's it. Well, this is a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones I used to wear glasses and I only know what you tell me about the first and where the second now all the time Congrats This episode today Jordan We are gonna be in the present day because a lot is going on in Alex Jones's life and I get the sense that probably by the time This episode comes out. He will have done more bullshit So sorry if this isn't up to the minute. Yeah, so Jordan today We're gonna be going over June 10th and 11th 2019. Yeah Monday and Tuesday of this week. All right, man

Oh, man What a what a time it was This episode when I was getting it ready when I was preparing when I was listening I thought it was going in one direction and it definitely did. Okay, and then it became something entirely different That sounds right It's a roller coaster ride So strap it in and get ready some of it is unpleasant some of it is completely absurd and some of it is deeply esoteric Okay, all right. I like that. So there's a grab bag a mixture of something for everybody

Except for one very specific person that is mentioned in this out-of-context drop from today's show I'll just be honest. I love my daughter's more than my son. Oh, that's rough. You never like to hear a parent say that Man, I guess I also that coming from Alex that means Rex is not masculine enough It feels like it might be that's that's that sounds like because Alex would be the guy who's like I need a son Yeah, I need the son of my dreams and Rex is just not not that guy I don't want to psychoanalyze any of that stuff other than to say like That could do damage to a child. Yeah, like hearing their parent It's on the radio. Yeah, yeah

Right his love That's bad he could have just said I'm a psychopath. I mean he kind of did yeah But you know, there's a group of people For whom my love I cannot rate It's all equal amongst them actually I feel like the difference in a monetary amount does influence. No not at all Okay, nope the wonks and the the technocrats all share the same positive feelings from me And that is why we need to take a moment now before we begin this episode to say thank you Just people have signed up and are supporting the show. First of all Gabriel. Thank you so much. You are now a policy wonk

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Jordan now I just think about you being on an episode of fantasy island and they're just like okay. Here's an RV I guess How'd that go bad No episode of fantasy island goes well, I think that's the point. Yeah, it's supposed to be heaven But it turns out it's hell you want this thing. Yeah, Ricardo Montabon is gonna teach you You didn't want that thing from hell's heart. He stabs it thing. You want to be famous. No, you don't know you don't Back when I was in college that was on like Hulu like the entire show and I had to do like a final Like I had to write a paper for something and I kept being like I'll get to the final later

I got fantasy island to watch. I literally Yeah, I used it as an excuse not to write a term paper and I assume this was in the 70s, right? No, no No, no, this is more reason to Repeats I watched the entire season finish the term pay or the whole series. Yeah, well finish the term paper Got an A on it. I don't know how I did it. That was your fantasy island. Yeah, I Engaged in what's what I called improvisational academics for a large part of my college career I like it. Yeah, a lot of stuff was just winged it a lot of stuff was just hey Can I get a suggestion? Can I get a place from the audience and then you wrote a paper? Yeah, let's see if this flies

At least in the classes that I wasn't interested in because there's you know any time you're in college High school any of it. There's gonna be a lot of a lot of stuff. You just have to do. Yeah And that that stuff I found I can bluff really easily But today Jordan, yeah, we're gonna start on June 10th and Hey, guess what? We have a really familiar guest Leading things off on Alex's show. We're also going to have two of my lawyers on with the pepper the frog case I can give you the exclusive on that that has settled as of right now as of just minutes ago Info wars.com will have the global exclusive the next 10 minutes Paul Watson's writing an article about it

Love statement by Robert Barnes and he'll be popping in the Mark Rondaza as well at the bottom of the hour Big victory on that front word is they spent a million three hundred thousand against us. We spent a hundred thousand fighting them So Alex is declaring victory and the lawsuit that was brought against him by pepper the frog of course Matt fury Of course, yeah, of course. I mean, this is a very predictable turn of events Also very predictable that Robert Barnes would show up again. Of course Wow, this show is turning into Alex having like Conference calls with his lawyers. Yeah, it doesn't that seem weird. It is very weird also when they lose the lawsuit doesn't that mean they have to pay the legal fees of the

Plaintiff not necessarily. Oh, they did settle. They didn't yeah, it wasn't a loss But there were stipulations about it and we'll get to some of that here in a little bit And also Alex is saying that That Matt fury had to pay a million dollars in legal fees for this case I really doubt that I wonder where he's getting that information from probably Barnes I wonder if we're gonna find out later Anyway, Barnes and Rondaza are coming up later grand So we'll get to them here in a minute, but before we do

Alex did something on this episode that I thought was really interesting and I'd only know about it if I'd listen to Thousands of hours of his show. Yeah, it is that he's brought back the the fear that he has About the the Muslim women at a pool supply shop. He brought that back. Well, not specifically Okay, he used that same structure of seeing people of various classes of Types of people in places. He doesn't want to see them. Yes as a justification for a lot of his We'll just call it white nationalist positions. Yeah, here he goes again. I went to a dental office yesterday That's closed on Sundays, but that my dad owns a piece of what he's a dentist and he was gonna fix a crack too and

I Get there this is a place I've been going to for ten years In South Austin And it looked like Guatemala, these were not Mexicans. These were people in traditional Indian Guatemalan and I saw Peruvians And again, nothing against these poor people, but I mean You know what a Guatemalan looks like, you know, what a Peruvian looks like and I was like holy

Toledo because I've been in some of these countries. I mean, you know, I've watched PBS I know there were women running around in Indian dresses all over the place and parties in the parking lot and just total insane asylum I was looking at the the license plates these people didn't even have license plates a bunch of them They just do whatever the hell they want that story is convoluted So central and South Americans are tailgating somebody's I don't know how much of that I can take as like Actual facts. Yeah, reporting. Yeah, but what I can take is a sense of it

And the sense that I get is Alex is not enjoying the way people are dressed Seems or are acting it seems like it central and South American people are acting and dressed in ways I disapprove of also my dad owns a piece of a dental practice that I get the hookup at yeah Fixing a crack tooth. I saw people who were from central and South America wearing clothes different for me Right, so I got to tell you about it because they're not supposed to be that's fucked. That's fucked up They're wearing clothes different for me. I mean, it's totally the same thing. I went to a pool supply store I saw Muslim women wearing a hijab and I thought oh, no Hey, I went to a dental office and some people were having fun in the parking lot and this is an invasion

Absolutely, they're coming from all over the place to that. I just say grow up. Yeah to that I say There's literally a sentence About what you're doing that everyone says when you do this don't judge a book by its cover That's one thing like the white nationalists always have one immediate visual thing Then they can extrapolate all of that into why central and South Americans are awful So it's like you're wearing different clothes. Here's everything that you've fucked up in your entire history or whatever Like what is he advocating for like he doesn't have any proof that these were their cars

He doesn't have any proof that like maybe they didn't just buy the car and they don't have the plates yet He has no reason to suspect that like a ha they get away with not having plates Yeah, like so that gets thrown out the window. Then what are the other complaints? I don't like this native dress. So what do you want to do? Regulate their clothes? You want to make uniforms for non-white people. I want this government to make uniforms for non-white people Are you saying that they shouldn't be able to have fun in a parking lot? Absolutely. What is the problem? The problem is the behavior and dress of non-white people. Yeah, that's all it is That's all that is but according to Alex South Austin is becoming a third-world country. Sure, which great

But meanwhile, I go over to a place that was a nice area South Austin wasn't a rich area, but it was a nice area And everything over the last few years looks like hell the sidewalks are all filthy and dirty and there's a dirty diaper over here and trash cans overflowing and and just the collapse of civilization and We're not helping them from the third world. We're becoming the third world folks So his argument essentially boils down to like these immigrants that are coming in have turned South Austin into a third-world country Right and to that I mean this the the examples that he's using like a dirty diaper trash like do you think that

Immigrants are the only people who litter because I got bad news for you about every city pretty sure It's only you think there's no littering in rural areas. No, I've never seen any littering in rural areas Like what is again, what is the complaint? Stuff is a little bit dirty. Okay Yeah, did you do anything to help clean up? Why don't you organize a citizen's group with those sticks that are really sharp that you can poke trash with yeah Yeah, why don't you do that or advocate for a fucking soda tech so they have the money to repair those fucking sidewalks Why don't you just yeah, why don't you look at the problem and find a solution as opposed to finding someone to blame for it?

Yeah, that's too difficult. So Alex gets into a lot of that He's in a lot of that headspace early on but then Barnes comes along with Mark Rondaza And they have they get into the lawsuit and Alex is really deeply invested in trying to present the position that he won And that they won yeah all that yeah To the point where he gets a little bit mad at Paul Joseph Watson because his headline that he wrote didn't highlight that enough Paul Joseph Watson put the blurb out info war settles pepper the frog lawsuit pays tiny settlement to Creator Matt fury. You know, I told Paul the headline was in in major strategic victory was a sub headline But Paul does what he wants will probably change the headline. Okay. Well you contradicted yourself there

Paul does what he wants. I told him what to do. He didn't do it. We're going to change it. Yeah, okay, man A lot of a lot of freedom of expression over there at info wars So, I mean, that's the presentation that Alex wants major strategic victory. We nailed this thing So earlier Alex said he had to pay a million something dollars and all he got was this 15,000 and you very correctly predicted that that information is just bullshit that Robert Barnes is guessing about It would not surprise me at all if they spent over a million dollars in legal fees prosecuting this case It would not surprise me That's a guess

That is that is Barnes going off of the rates that he's charging Alex Alex is like, yeah, of course, it's a million dollar That's a regular amount of money to spend on a lawyer or just what he assumes like he's like, oh, this is a big law firm They must be charging him that much. Maybe not. Maybe they're working pro bono. Maybe there's a sliding scale Maybe they're interested in the case and they're like fuck it. Yeah, maybe they just hate Barnes, right? Maybe they hate Alex Yeah, so what's going on with the lawsuit and what Alex is doing with it and trying to claim strategic victory It's a really complicated game of who won what yeah, that's going on And honestly, it's kind of easy to see how both sides can reasonably claim to have gotten what they want out of it

It seems like a rare instance of a high-profile civil case kind of reaching a decent conclusion Like everyone wins except in this case one party is gonna lie and pretend that they unilaterally won right which is Alex Yeah in the past months Alex has been screaming about how he's not gonna settle that lawsuit He's gonna fight it He's gone on and on about how Pepe creator Matt fury tried to settle initially for a small undisclosed amount But Alex said no on principle If I know anything about Alex It's that he doesn't do courtrooms unless he has to or unless he's in some kind of position where his business is specifically off

Limits and he has the opportunity to grandstand and use the court as a bully pulpit So I knew that that principle stuff was bullshit users putting on a brave face Because he wasn't sure what he was on the hook for and what he could be liable to end up paying Fury probably initially offered a really high settlement that Alex knew he couldn't pay Alex bravely promised to fight the suit which helped him raise money for his legal battle And then when it became clear that the most fury was gonna win if he went to trial was $14,000 Alex gladly paid the settlement of 15,000 to end the case If he thought he possibly could win and the most he could lose was

$14,000 it makes no sense for him to settle for a higher amount Especially given his previous behavior and less something about discovery could be a problem That $15,000 is a payoff for him not to have to disclose his financial information in discovery Alex gets out of the lawsuit without being forced to show his internal workings. So no matter what it's a huge win That's great for him. I'm happy for him and as for fury. He didn't want the lawsuit to get rich He wanted Alex and people like Alex to stop using his work to promote a message He opposed and he got that in the settlement, too The reason this became a lawsuit is because info wars refused to honor a cease and desist request from him to stop

Selling their poster with Pepe on it if they just stopped there wouldn't ever have been a lawsuit and here in the settlement They agreed to put a freeze on sales and destroy all copies of the poster that they still have in stock That's essentially what fury wanted all along and he got it Info wars is no longer using the character and if they do it again, he could use this settlement against them It's kind of a bummer that Alex can't just be an adult and say that they made a mistake and ultimately They reached a conclusion both sides are happy with that's not Alex's game because he is a big old adult Baby and can't behave that way. He has to claim victory in every instance Lest he lose some sort of appearance of machismo. Yeah, and one other which is why Rex is

Yeah, Rex wouldn't fight this Rex would have been like hey, you know what? You're right. We stole that actually here's a thousand bucks just for your travels Let's get on now. No, no about that thousand That's a little thing that's missing from a lot of the coverage of this the reason that settlement was higher Then the 14,000 that Matt fury could have won in court is he was kind of trolling Alex The 14,000 was the amount that the court deemed that Alex made Offselling the poster so it was the ceiling of damages the man fury could look for the settlement is for 15,000 that extra Thousand there is a donation that he forced Alex to make to a charity called save the frogs

Which Fun at the guy who you know yells all the time about how they're turning the frogs game It's kind of trolling. That's pretty funny. Yeah, that's that's a nice little turn of the screw on that one It really seems like that's probably just a fuck with Alex. Yeah for sure I would I would guess so Robert Barnes is on there They're you know stealing victory from the jaws of defeat and they're having a great time But you may have mentioned or heard me mention that Mark Rondaza is also there. Yeah, what's he doing? He is being a real dick

To Alex no or to barns in general or to everyone just the world. Okay, so Barnes is presenting this like we you know, it was a strategic victory We have sent the message that if you want to sue info wars you can spend about a million dollars to get 10,000 back right it's a terrible return on your investment right and we did this intentionally It was all a plan in order to create the appearance that if you come against us This is what happens. You get financially decimated by trying to hurt us. Sure. That's a that's a good That's a good play for barns. Oh for sure now Mark Rondaza just seems sick of the shit and wants to insult Fury and the entire legal process kind of I like it

But in the way he does it he invalidates a lot of the ways that Alex tries to present himself Mm-hmm, and the first one it really invalidates all of Alex's ideas about being upper middle class and like living a Restrained lifestyle and I put all my money back into the operation. Sure. This is this is very much like we're fucking rich Man, I don't give a fuck about 15,000 dollars The amount that you wound up paying them for a licensing fee I mean when we were calculating what it would have cost for you know You're your first-class flight to to LA the kind of hotels that we like to stay in and the kind of meals We like to eat. I think I think our bar tab would have been more than that in LA just for the week

So that's fucked up. That's hilarious. That's revealing to the audience a little bit of the internal working Yeah, I drop 15 grand at the bar. Uh-huh. Yeah, that's not good That's not how Alex likes to pretend he behaves. No, and he does respond to is like I stay at holiday and select get the fuck Let Rondaza fucking give it up if he needs to well, I mean Alex tries to push back It's not even bit like that. He's like, you know, I stay at holiday and select But then Rondaza won't stop this amount that you settled this for me. That's a that's a bar tab at a topless club You know for one good night So

Asshole that invalidates the same sort of we spend money like crazy thing and then also isn't Alex supposed to be a Christian guy Isn't he supposed to be a good family man and into into all this like conservatism like I spend $15,000 at a strip club. What did you know? He's an Atlanta hip-hop. I guess Atlanta hip-hop icon Rondaza goes to the one tweezy Yeah, perhaps so does I had a little part on stankonia actually Member of the Dungeon family Mark Rondaza If you recall Jordan

I recently suggested that Robert Barnes was trying to make a name for himself as the lawyer of choice for the right wing Dum-dum free speech grifters of the world the Cassandra fair banks is the Chuck Johnson's the Alex Jones's these people that he's taken on as clients Recently, there's a clear pattern that applies intent in in this work and if If I was accurate in that at all then this episode here with Mark Rondaza and Robert Barnes together is Kind of a passing of the baton in some ways Mark Rondaza was Alex's lawyer and had tried to represent him in the Sandy Hook trial But the judge in that case rejected his request to be Alex's lawyer citing concerns about past quote serious misconduct

Rondaza is not licensed to practice in Connecticut And so he had applied to be an out-of-state counsel for Alex, which is often accepted just a matter of formality You're a lawyer come on get on in here But it wasn't for him probably because he's shady as fuck since he couldn't be Alex's lawyer Alex needed a replacement in steps Robert Barnes in the name of defending free speech Rondaza took on Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer as a client as well as white nationalist Paul Nieland white supremacist hero Jared Taylor Mike Cernovich Richard Spencer's booking agent and gab the website where people too fucked up for Twitter end up Beyond that Mark Rondaza is a completely inethical fraud of a lawyer

He used to be the in-house attorney for a porn company called Liberty Media Holdings Part of his job was to issue takedown notices to streaming tube sites But in his capacity as Liberty's lawyer He misrepresented himself to the targets of these lawsuits as being outside counsel and then tried to solicit bribes from them to get them Not to pursue legal action He told the lawyer for the website TNA flicks quote there needs to be a little gravy for me And it has to be more than the five thousand you were talking about before I'm looking for the cost of at least a new Carrera in retainer deposits after circulating around the adult

Entertainment Expo this weekend. I'm gonna want at least used BMW money You shouldn't say that Allowed right you should say very different things that amount to the same thing You should not say the part where you're like I Excuse me, sir. I would like you to bribe me. Yeah, that's a not a good way to go You use yeah, he was he was trying to be like well You know if we have some sort of financial arrangement then I can't possibly pursue this action against you Yeah, it would be an ethical of me to each even even though he was working for the the other people

Yeah, so he was trying to play both sides to 100% what an asshole. He's the word He thought he was so brilliant to he probably thought he made up that scam. Yep. Oh, he was later Working on a settlement with Oron a file-sharing company again on behalf of Liberty Liberty was looking for $550,000 and Rondaza told Oron if they paid him $75,000. He would quote never be able to sue them forever and ever Eventually Liberty would get wise to mark shit and cease relations with him that led to mark suing them for wrongful termination Really in a slew of other charges seeking four million dollars and then he lost hard was a huge mistake Yeah, and Liberty countersued for all the shady shit He'd done while working for them and ended up being awarded six hundred thousand dollars in damages from him

The arbiter in that case found that mark had quote been involved in and successfully concluded negotiations for a bribe Which lawyers are not supposed to do After all this it should make a lot more sense why he ended up being the favorite lawyer of Nazis and white nationalist scam artists Yeah, he had nowhere else to go Yeah, his original hustle is obviously better and paid more but it blew up in his face and now no one who needs a legitimate lawyer Is gonna hire him ever but you know who definitely doesn't want a legitimate lawyer scammer people like Alex Jones Gab does not want a Fucking ethical lawyer at all no and so Alex

I think you know, obviously, he's the kind of guy that Alex would want representing him But he kind of like went too far and like oh shit Connecticut won't let you be my lawyer I got to get Barnes and that's the only reason we fucking know who Barnes is right and so Jesus yeah, so Mark Rondaza is I don't think he's even Alex's lawyer anymore and that he bet he's on Do it as a guest he doesn't seem to want to be there. No, it sounds like he really doesn't want to be there He's just talking about spending $50,000 at strip clubs You're kind of undercutting a lot of the point that Alex tries to make in his victim hood narrative. Yeah, but whatever

So Alex has learned from this experience of going through with this lawsuit and it ending up him only paying $15,000 that maybe he should always pursue Whatever lawsuits come and be an asshole about it and there's a really interesting way that this clip ends And as long as we don't back down they back us they would they've been so pissed a few years ago But I thought I was just saying an apology so I get left alone He's talking about his audience supporting him as long as he doesn't back down and the lawsuit that he's talking about here

Is the Humdy-Oolokai lawsuit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I Didn't get that it was the setup my audience got it. They were pissed at me. Well now I get it Audience I'm not just physically not surrendering in death before dishonor. I get what you you're right We're gonna raging bull not back down to anything and that's better I don't have to even think things through now. I can just go with my instincts be a raging bull and it seems like that's the best way to go Absolutely, and this outcome vindicates that Robert Barnes just heard a cash register. That cannot be a lawyer's Advice to that state keep moving. I'm just gonna do fighting whatever I think to do or don't think and never Consider what the consequences may be before I do them and Barnes is like hell. Yes, but that's good that's cuz he's getting billable hours

And that's awesome for him. Yes, absolutely Alex. You have learned that there are no consequences Consequences Actions how do you look I would have owned your home if you would have acted like that? Yeah, but I would have made so much money. Oh, yeah, if I was your lawyer back then I would have advised you to like Yalla racial slur right have instead of settling yeah Yeah, that would be something where if Alex wound up suing Barnes Barnes would be like I was on your show I was not acting in the capacity as your lawyer if we were in my office one

I would have charged you right to I would have given you good advice great today Yeah Yeah, it's a it's a mess so their appearance really just boils down to basically that it's it's yeah declare Victory do it do it declaring victory obfuscating and Alex's lawyers acting very much not like lawyers So whatever And then Alex starts talking about how much he loves the free market Which is great, but he says that he kind of Maybe believed too much in it, which is still a good thing

But also like maybe a deficiency not entirely sure it doesn't really matter gotcha in his rambling about it He ends up saying something that directly contradicts something. He said a bunch of times Is that I was in love with free market in love with America and in love with success and in love with thousands of Different angles and ideas and I knew that free market wasn't perfect, but it gave you Hundreds of medical choices hundreds of education choices thousands thousands of choices of everything And then I went to third world countries and I went to communist countries and I witnessed it and they'd had two pairs of clothes They didn't have toilet paper to wipe their asses Even though they had

130 IQs on average in Russia. They use some of the highest IQs the world. They couldn't wipe their ass Because they were under globalism a system meant to dominate So he says that he's been to third world countries and communist countries And then the only specific that he gives is Russia and honestly I don't know what to make of this clip because I know that in service of defending himself against these allegations that he's a Russian agent Alex has routinely and aggressively said that he's never been to Russia, but it's a country he'd like to go to someday I'm not sure if any of this means anything other than Alex can't keep his stories straight because it really sounds like he's saying He's been to Russia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's almost hard

It's almost impossible to hear pronoun reference working any differently right in that clip I would bet that he hasn't been to Russia and that clip is just him talking shit and pretending He'd been there to strengthen his argument about how free markets great globalism sucks That seems like the simplest explanation However, if he's being honest here and that he has been to Russia It calls into question all the times he said he's never been there and why would he say that he's never been there? Because him being him traveling to Russia doesn't mean he's a Russian agent No, Bernie traveled to Russia on a honeymoon, but I would say see there you go

Isn't that fun how that works? So the only way like the only I don't know it It's interesting to me only in as much as it's an anomaly and it doesn't make sense Like there isn't a real reason to lie if he's lying. Yeah And there's also not a reason to embellish Here and imply that you've been to Russia. I think he lies for the fun of it now just to see what he can get away with I think he's just lying about everything. It's a lot track. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know what I'm saying. Yeah Yeah On the advice of my lawyer, I'm not thinking about what I do anymore. I'm off the chain man. I think Barnes is cool. I

Definitely don't think Barnes is fucking with me. It means I have good Discernment that's the word So I thought that was strange that That seeming indication that he's been to Russia when he's vociferously said that he hasn't been in the past But it would have probably been like that's curious and but then he was immediately followed up with this So you hear it's a Russian conspiracy against the New World Order. It's true The Russians don't direct this. We don't talk to them The Russians can barely keep their country from the globalist, but they were the first in the 20th century

in the 21st century Right as the dawn of the new Millennium began to throw some of the oligarchs off their back and that example if you let one aunt stand up They might all stand up, but America always does it bigger and better. Don't we? We adopt whatever successful we do it bigger and better and we saw what Russia did And we saw all the other victories We said we can do it better than that And so I was there betting on that the whole time and along came Donald Trump a beautiful opportunist

What? What what is he saying? I'd like you to try and parse that because I can't seems I can't make heads or tails of it Really like because I don't think that that's a damning indictment in terms of him being like Yeah, yeah, I'm a bed with Russians because you know you say we don't talk to them No, but it does very much imply that he Deifies and really idolizes

Some things about Russia that aren't yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Does he not realize that though they did remove some of the oligarchs? That's all he said some the issue is that oligarchs remain and they have the same amount of power They just split it between fewer people that does seem like a Problem, yeah, yeah, and also He is right. We do do it bigger and better as our oligarchs are Definitely more entrenched in power. Yeah, oh boy, and then at the end there I really wanted to know what he was talking about because he said then came Donald Trump a wonderful

Beautiful opportunist. What does that mean? I don't know Did it does that mean that he did it does he is he kind of implying that Russia did help it? Specifically it really does seem like it's see Trump saw his opportunity opportunism, right? What is what is just just the the state of the country? I mean, that's the most benign explanation or somebody offering a large amount of assistance in order to see I don't think that the state of the country is something you would describe as being opportunistic Yeah, I would see that as being like insightful of the times or something like that You wouldn't you because opportunistic has a sneaky connotation to it. Oh, yeah

And yeah, I don't I don't know it's implying something real real fucked up Beautiful opportunity the problem is that he never explains what he means by it Of course because he gets sidetracked talking about being an opportunist Oh, so now he's gonna implicate himself in some shady shit. You bet By the way, I'm an opportunist. I'm a troll blazer, too, but I'm I'm everything I'm evil too, but I'm good runs my life. God's in control of me, but I can see into every avenue And I remember like being in high school and some guys being a jerk to the his hot girlfriend Or college treating her like crap. She's leaving the party. I'm like, hey sweetheart. I'm not gonna be mean to you

Oh, that's make you feel good. No Ragging like I'm some Casanova. I just like girls. I'm better today. I'm married. I've four kids But you know, I was an opportunist. I'm like Buddy you won't treat her bad cuz she's so good-looking and you got a problem and you're upset cuz whatever you're so jealous You got a girl is hot. I'm not gonna be jealous. I'm gonna take good care of her So yeah, I'm an opportunist. Okay Okay, that's a being a manipulator I I think that is what he thinks an opportunist is like he I think what if I'm

Understanding his definition in a and the way that it applies to to Trump being an opportunist America is like that super hot girl, right who is with an abusive globalist Yeah, yeah, and Trump steps in and he's like, hey, baby I am a lot like Alex Jones in that I am lying to you right now And later I will scream at you after fucking you over Yeah, it does seem like if that's the end of like the analogy that he's making It doesn't look good. No, it's really that's really creepy Why is he telling that story? His show is just wall-to-wall. Why are you saying? Yeah?

There's so many times that I'm like Hmm a better broadcaster would have found a better way to express The metaphor that you're hoping to make there without sounding like a real creep So that like that's real fucking bizarre and strange. Yeah And it only spirals even further from there, which again I think is why he doesn't explain what he means by Trump being an opportunist Yeah, because he just starts like rambling. This is just the this is so weird If they destroy me I win if I beat them I win I

Don't lose because I'm focused on justice and truth and Americana and I think it's sexy and I'm in love with it and I'm having sex with Americana I'm in love with it. It's like a big sexy woman With all the curves and all the power and the thunder shooting out from between them thighs, baby And I want to kill this country and I want its ideas to take the world over for freedom And I want the planet to explode with human activity and I want to spread throughout the cosmos and I want our Prodigy you look back on us and say we're winners in one constant connection And think God our ancestors got us through that crap and got us off the ground

So we could have communion with God in the stars and beyond and that's God's plan It's already gonna happen. Let me tell you the devil's gonna have his hour of power It's gonna be hellish this pivoted fast. Yeah, this yeah in a matter of a minute went for I'm fucking Americana It's got curves. Yeah, it's great. We're gonna commune with God in the stars Really, I really really feel like he just did that part on a bet, you know, like that reminds that hole There's like a bounty on him saying you're having sex with America. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah There's some hold it like we're run does it put him up that it reminds me of the the meow in Super Troopers Where he's like how many times can you say meow and that and he's like, okay

How many times can you reference pulling open Americana's thunder thighs? Yeah, like Jesus. Yeah, it does feel that way And he's not done Billions are gonna get killed in the end, but let me tell you something sweetheart You don't think God created this planet so people like Nancy Pelosi and Lord Rothschild and the Queen of England would be running the show Do you? What about Soros? They were only there to test us board. We're gonna break out of Paul Watson I'm gonna leave it at this in fact without even getting into the big specials the big sales and all the rest of it Nice if you want to see war against tyranny if you want to see commitment

If you want to see 10 new reporters hired and you want to see us even more effective Come on here. You've done with all the other great reporters and the Millie Weebers and the Caitlyn Bennet's and the Oh, and shroyers and everything we're doing That energize me all of it. I want to throw my fist You ever have those dreams where you want to throw your fist at somebody, but you can't hit them hard and it just doesn't do anything Here's my fist ready To ram down the throat of the globalist and tear their heart out politically loving loving But only you can take this fist from not being able to move

To focus in getting ready and then energizing and I'll reach right down their throat grab your heart And I'll tear it out even if they shove a sword into me I want the victory when they shove that sword in me understand that I want victory over them We will crush their spirit with Jesus Christ power We are unstoppable, but you must lose it now lose it lose it That's that's a little upset. Okay. Okay. I mean that two minutes the ride is pretty bizarre like, you know

I'm fucking Americana, right? We're in a we're in an open relationship. I'm married, but I'm having sex with the idea of the 1950s Right, we're gonna go to the stars and commune with God But we can only do that if I can politically murder the globalists and that can only happen if you Give me a bunch of money so I can have Jesus Christ power. Yes Yeah, I think I think you summed that up pretty pretty well That's disturbed kind of shit every time we get even that like even whenever he's like you ever have that dream Where you're trying to punch somebody and you just can't get there. I'm like, no No, every time you give me an idea of what your dreams are

More and more scared of you. I think that's a pretty common dream I've definitely had a dream where I'm in a fight and I can't swing or like Like I want to run and I can't run. There's like physical limitation dreams I'm sure it means something, but I I can't remember the last time I had one But I know I have like it's something that like that didn't sound that crazy to me Oh, okay, that sounded crazy the rest of it Bananas batshit. Yeah. Yeah, but the yeah, I don't know why I fixated on the dream part because I guess the fucking Americana just slides off my back now

Sure, maybe it's a piece of me and Alex's psychology that's missing from you right causes that sort of a dream to To manifest which is why you guys are connected on some kind of a Superhero super villain level we're actually Eskimo brothers That's what's going on. Oh boy, so Throughout the day, he's had one varsity narrative. Yeah, that he's been pushing and I'm gonna play this clip here, and then we will discuss it and it's really really really bad A little bit late back in studio because I'm working with three different teams of reporters in San Antonio and on the border with the

thousands of Congonese that's folks from the Congo Central Africa with the second biggest they're saying it's about to be the biggest Ebola outbreak in history took place immigrants constantly they're trying to flee Ebola So smugglers bring them into Central America. There it is. They don't stay there. They come here. They can get free welfare. Sure and There's now reportedly over a thousand in San Antonio and Thousands more coming across because I've made more phone calls. I've talked to more sources and the border patrol is saying We're not even allowed to keep them we're not even allowed to test them we are overwhelmed

We I mean we're talking for every border agent maybe a hundred To 200 people come across a day So Alex's big narrative here that he's pushing. I mean first of all, we're fucking back to Ebola. Congratulations It's been a few years now. We've got it coming back, right? Real fun His idea is that they he has a border patrol source that he's talked to and they're not checking people and all this but sure This Ebola narrative is really Alex's main talking point for the day I resisted cutting clips of it earlier in the show And I think the reason is that I felt like it was just a slightly more specific version of the immigrants are bringing disease narrative

Yeah, and as important as it is to remind people that this is a big part of his rhetoric I don't want to flog a dead horse and play every example of him being that same kind of a dick Yeah, this was such a constant thread being brought up through the show though I felt it was important to address it and I also feel like it's an escalation in the narrative quite a bit For most of the show Alex is presenting the story is coming from a source that he has an ice and border patrol They've tried to contact Fox News about it, but Fox has refused to cover the story Alex sees this as evidence that he's one of the last truthful and brave news outlets out there When in reality if any of the his backstory for this information is true

It's way more likely that Fox realized that this is the sort of rhetoric rhetoric that could incite militias and white Nationalists near the border to start shooting black people and immigrants They assume might be from the Congo if any of what Alex is saying about as alleged sources contacting Fox first is true I see that as evidence that even Fox News might have a line in the sand whereas Alex doesn't One of the things that makes Alex incapable of understanding how wrong about this story He is is that he sees all immigrants as one thing as opposed to people with individual stories and experiences If he'd even spent one second considering what these Congolese Immigrants who have arrived in San Antonio have gone through on their way to the US

He would know that it's virtually impossible for any of them to have Ebola For one most of them traveled from Africa to Cuba then to South or Central America and made their way up It's not a fast trip and most of them have left their home country six months ago The incubation period for Ebola is 21 days So if any of them had caught Ebola before they left they would have died on their way here The fact that they've been on their way to the US for months and none of the immigrants who arrived here are Symptomatic of Ebola in any way means they do not have Ebola and I can say for certainly That none of them were symptomatic because Alex is lying about the immigrants not being checked

San Antonio assistant city manager Colleen Bridger who has a PhD in health services Health service research excuse me and a master's in public health has gone on the record and said that immigrants have all Quote been screened by the federal government before being released into the United States She also points out that the idea that some that is some unwashed mass of people is absurd and many of the people who arrive here as Refugees are coming from countries with higher vaccination rates than parts of the United States Bridger is quick to point out that there have been some illnesses with the immigrants That's definitely true, but not the kind Alex is worried about quote. We are seeing what I characterize as stress related illness We're having some cold some upper respiratory infections and that's to be expected with the stress

They've gone through on their way here But guess what fear is addictive and Alex is pushing these narratives and it has a real consequence and that clip I just played he's talking about them having about having teams in San Antonio that he's in communication with his Multiple news teams down there and what ended up happening is that some of his employees Oh and Shroy are in particular barged into a migrant resource center It began yelling at people about Ebola from there The rumors began to swirl around so aggressively that the city of San Antonio had to hold a press conference the next day to explain to People basic science about how six months is longer than 21 days and these people aren't bringing Ebola into the country

That's stupid. That's paranoid white nationalist nativist fear that is being manifested If you read some of the stories of these refugees you get kind of the sense of the type of people that Alex wants you to see as a mortal threat to your safety John Paul Kakwini was a public opponent of Joseph Kabila who was known for his oppressive crackdowns on political dissent The media and civil liberty quote. I was tortured. I have a lot of bad memories of my life That's what led him to flee and seek refugee status here at the United States John Paul is just one story of the approximately

350 immigrants who arrived in San Antonio from Africa this week and unfortunately I can't tell you all their stories, but I can't tell you with a hundred percent certainty that none of their story is I have Ebola These are there aren't words strong enough for what Alex is doing There's a danger to his rhetoric that I pray he doesn't realize because if he knows what he's doing I can come to no other conclusion than he's trying to get these people killed Alex doesn't have some great source that's feeding him this shit. It's the same as every other source He pretends to get info from it's probably a caller pretending to be in border patrol or some Fucking idiocy one of his interns found on 4chan and what he's doing is

supremely irresponsible This is white nationalism of a incredibly dangerous variety if any of these immigrants are attacked Their blood is on Alex's hands and I say that without qualification Good We're finally in agreement I've been saying that since we started and one of the reasons that I take that hard to stand Is because Alex goes on to say things like this and Mexico's like that Mexico's had civilization collapse. They've had what we're about to be the same

And then it just comes down to men with guns Because our own government wouldn't put men with guns on the border and wouldn't give me authority So he's advocating for men with guns to protect the country from the the the scourge that he's Yelling and warning people about and this entire episode is so much about the Congolese and Angolan Immigrants that have come to San Antonio. So, you know, he's it's very specific the context that he's he's speaking in Men with guns need to protect us from these African immigrants that are coming in they probably have Ebola

It's insane. It's a it's a it's a deep deep escalation of that like Immigrants have disease because because the fear that he also attaches to Ebola, right? Okay, it's just it's frustrating It I know we've talked about this before but the fact that these assholes will never say what they want You know, he's just like hey these people are coming in and the government won't put people with guns at the border He won't say the next part where he wants what what he wants those them to be shot You know those people with guns to shoot the people who try and get into the country Exactly you should be forced to say the ultimate goal of your actions if you're going to do something so violent It becomes so undefensible to say those things right if you

Vocalize the other part and it just seems like there's there's no other outcome that would satisfy him. Nope There's just none. No, and he's pretending that they're not like people who came over and then Turned themselves in and pled refugee status. Yeah, it's not what they're doing isn't illegal, right? It's it's specifically in fact It's very legal. Yes. So yeah, I mean he's he's trying to basically create and normalize I mean to his communities. It's probably already completely normalized Yeah, but the idea that immigrants who come in and are trying to apply for refugee status should be shot Yeah, they come into the country because it's an illegal encroachment of the country And they probably have diseases and Ebola, you know, it could become airborne any minute it does. Oh my god

They these these congle congle ease people who have come in are Trying to do that to you. Yeah, it's it's disgusting. It seems like he wants to live in his castle He wants Austin to have giant castles built all around it And then he wants Texas to have even bigger castles built all around that and nobody gets in or gets out And there are people standing on the fucking parapets the metaphor of the Alamo. Yeah. Yeah Something like that his fantasy version of it fucking disgusting. So Alex sent a ton of reporters out I don't know his own Troyer and some people. How many reporters does he have? I mean, how many of them are really kind of just freelancing? Yeah. Oh, that's true

He could I don't think really works for him, but he freelances We'll get to her in a little bit, but oh and Troyer's out there and you know, they got some footage But there's a problem and that is that none of them are bilingual. So they can't my fucking god I can't understand any of the things that are being said and they of course didn't bring a translator Wow, they did bring Google And God love my reporters. They're such good guys. We're like, well, these people speak French We don't understand them and I said use a Google translator Because I've been doing this during the breaks

But I'm not complaining, but I'm just saying I'm doing a lot of multi-tasking I'm like get a Google translator and ask them in French. That's the second language in there Did you why did you leave? What are your fears? It's not how you ask people questions And they tell them Ebola You might think that's newsworthy. It's not does it matter. It's in French Qua Ebola Africans fleeing the Congo

Africans fleeing Ebola arrive in Texas We have it confirmed. You don't but so what even if it was true like even if they're leaving Ebola is fine It is as long as there's like control mechanisms in place, right? I don't like you don't want the disease to spread Of course not, you know, we we've been aware of Ebola for long enough that people are checked Yeah It's not as it's not as crazy a thing as Alex is suggesting

But the idea that like six months ago these people left the Congo or Angola because they were afraid of the Outbreak that was happening and the Ebola that was popping up For them to express that is not in any way an indication that they are in any way more likely to have Ebola Yeah, like if Alex right now sees all these African folk coming in Who he thinks has it have Ebola they're coming into Texas, right? So he decides to leave Texas and I don't know sets up shop in Massachusetts and someone's like why did you move to Massachusetts? I was afraid of Ebola doesn't mean he is any more likely to have it then

Then these these refugees so he can go fuck himself. This is stupid. Also. I'm not gonna accept Google translate results as Evidence of anything. Yeah, I don't I don't think that even with help they can translate. Yeah, Frenchers is a Marginally simple language. Yeah, why don't any of your staff know another language? I bet they don't know Spanish even they live in Texas Yeah, oh, they absolutely probably don't because American. Yeah is the language. Yeah On the resume if you have bilingual in there, it's immediately tossed out It's one is you're a traitor for knowing another language and that's one of the reasons why I think it's so important that people Study languages. I think it's a really good thing to be be bilingual

Even if you I don't think anybody I think only white nationalist lunatics disagree with you. Yeah, probably I think there's a lot of people who think like that's just something you can do or not do whereas I actually think that it's it really expands your mind Yeah, learn other languages not just because of the vocab and all the practice of that But you start to get a sense of how other people express themselves There's a really empathic quality to learning other languages I support it wholly and I think that's part of the reason why ding dongs like these assholes Are averse to it. Yeah, it does open your mind. Yeah, you start to who cares?

I'm not gonna get on a soapbox In this next clip Alex is complaining that no one else will cover this story And I suspect that that's because no one is nearly as white nationalist. Yeah. Yeah, not even Tucker Carlson will Give me a couple days. He probably will get fair enough He'll just wait and see how the test run on Alex's show right right And then Steve Ducey will be doing it the day after that. Yeah And so Alex is talking about that and he brings in Mike Adams for the health ranger and

Man, Mike is so fucked up what he says in this next clip is like hey glad you got kicked off Facebook you prick The border patrol and I'm not bragging that I feel horrible has to call me because no one else One TV stations reporting on this Mike, which means the kibosh is on it insane aside from the psychological Context here something very important understand is that this invasion? This is a bio weapons invasion of America and it's being combined With what you wanted me to come on and talk about which is the censorship of? Vaccine truth information and Gerald Salende is coming up and we'll take one segment from him and get into detail on that

But but exactly it's all tied. They want to censor us ahead of this move This outbreak is being engineered to happen They want this outbreak to happen and then they have to completely control the narrative so that no one Can come online and question the safety of the Ebola vaccine. I totally agree like you said yesterday The clamp down is ahead of the big event Absolutely, so I think that there is no Worst thing you can say then take people who are seeking refugee status here and call them a bio weapon Invasion yeah, because what do you do? What do you do with the with an illness you try and eradicate that illness?

Like look at what you do with a bio weapon look at the country as a body right the this illness has come in You have to get antibodies to that that illness and what is that? Well, Alex has already suggested it's men with guns like this sort of language in this context is Absolutely unacceptable it. I mean they have the right to say it but I mean what they should know or I hope The society works in such a way that there's consequences for behaving like yeah, it's it's almost like I Want I want radio listeners to have cookies like you know like how what's what how many? Directly traceable cookies can we get back to Alex Jones and Mike Adams as far as fucking body count? I don't know. I mean it seems like like you need like you need some way to Ben Shapiro

Yeah, the inspiration inspired terrorism pretty neatly, but I think also even in those cases You know those people still went to Alex's site. Yeah Yeah, I don't know it's it's not it's not fair for us to fully blame or or anything like that Of course not but it's that this sort of language exists in a universe of media consumption Yeah, this is a very radicalizing aspect of it. It's very scary Mike Adams calling all immigrants and invading bio weapon It's insane. Yeah, that is that is the least empathic thing that I think you could possibly do Yeah, you know and I think Mike is one of these dudes too who like I

Think we maybe should pay more attention to him because I think in especially recently the times that he's been on He's been the one who is pushing Alex further. Yeah, like when he came on and talked about the Trump declaring a state of emergency The insurrection act type stuff. He was the one who was pushing for like we need to lock up our enemies Yeah, you know Alex is obviously on board with that But Mike was the one who was making it okay for Alex to be yeah that way Yeah, he was spearheading it so and here Alex is implying that they're a biochemical Bio weapon invasion, but Mike's the one who's overtly saying straight up

Yeah, so and you might think that Mike has some sort of a good argument about The you know this why would I think this threat being real, right? You might think that when everybody who you know knows anything about science who understands the situation Science is a globalist plot down basically People saying things is a globalist plot in the mainstream media when they say it's real. It's fake when they say it's fake It's real. That's exactly what we're witnessing now. That's called being a baby Wow Wow, that's called thinking poorly. Yeah, you are stupid for a good that is dumb for a group of people that pride themselves on like

Logic and critical thinking like if you express something like that like just because x says y y is not true So you just uh, that's that's the kind of thing where if someone says that you just got to walk away from yeah Yeah, yeah, like alright man or doing their cult your oppositional defiant to a level that is just like You can't how do you live? I think he's pre gas lighting us somewhat? Yeah, he's priming us for his eventual gas lighting. Maybe Jesus So as we know years ago, there was some Ebola that did manage to end up in the United States Yeah, guess what it was taken care of incredibly No, I'm pretty sure it was a soft launch and the globalists were thwarted once again by Alex and his ilk and now

They're going back to the same plan. It could be I know I know from researching that because we did an episode about Alex's coverage of the 2013 Outbreak. Oh, yeah, I know from researching that that the media was covering it I know that people were talking about it But Alex seems to think now in 2019 that the media covered it up back then which I can say categorically is not true. Here's Alex line It's now admitted in 2019 that five years ago Ebola did show up in Texas

Georgia, New York and other areas of people were kept in secret wings. I Was reporting at the time at info wars.com Mike Adams was spearheading it at the time At natural news.com and everyone else was covering it up. Not true at all. Absolutely a rewriting of history by that reasoning though Were the media to cover it Mike Adams would assume that it was not true. It would have to be yeah Yeah, yeah, I mean they want they wanted both ways. It doesn't fucking matter Yeah, they're just bad at making arguments and they appeal to that sort of like distrust They they pretend. It's a healthy distrust when in reality. It's an abusive

distrust so anyway Alex in this next clip This is the last one from the 10th from June 10th and like this is just like deeply irresponsible The way he's characterizing these immigrants who have come into San Antonio. Why? With the captured federal government Trump only controls part of it They bring in thousands of Africans in Texas alone Fleeing the Congo with what they're now saying is the second or largest outbreak ever Maybe to save fucking life all over San Antonio are just thousands of people

Wandering around we've talked to the board patrol. They say Alex. It's not 300 It's thousands over a thousand last few days and I even found an article So, I mean he's just saying that they're wandering around San Antonio If you are someone who believes him and you believe that these people might have Ebola and they're a threat And there's thousands of them wandering around. How do you know if someone that you see wandering around? It's an Antonio is a immigrant from the Congo. Oh I know I know their skin is different I mean that it does lead to a suspicion of everybody who might be from the Congo

It almost seems like I mean it doesn't even matter if they're from the Congo black person wandering around San Antonio is now Officially according to Alex suspicious. Yeah We should stop and inspect every single black person walking around the only way to be safe The only way to be safe, and that's what we want. We need to be safe. So let's just stop every black person I I understand a good frisk. I understand fully that that's not what Alex is saying, right? But that's what he's implying. Yeah, that's what's beneath The rhetoric that he's putting out and he hides much like that like you know You need guns on the boat men with guns on the border right?

He's avoiding saying the part that is the real-world application of the rhetoric that he's putting out men on the border stopping immigrants You are wanting them to be shot if they try and enter the country especially considering these people wandering around San Antonio You want everyone to be suspicious of anyone who looks like they might be African, right? That's what you're doing especially in the context of today where he's talking about we need men with guns on the border There are border militias with guns who have killed people we need we need to monitor every black person in San Antonio Cops kill people all the fucking time. Yeah for nothing. Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's a man so we get to the 11th and I've studiously avoided trying to play any rainbow snatch material

Millie Weaver's Character that she does I believe you forgot the adjective brilliant brilliant character brilliantly opportunistic For those of you who don't know Millie Weaver is an employee of Alex Jones She puts on a character named rainbow snatch which she believes is some sort of a parody of feminism and the left and The excesses of the LGBT community or something. Yeah, it just kind of seems more more weird on her part Yeah, it's usually pretty dumb. So she went out to pride And I want you to put your mic down because this is gonna make you a little bit like screamy possibly But I really want you to hear what her bit is when she goes out there

Hey guys, it's your favorite blogger Rainbow Snatch Discretion is advised. It's Pittsburgh pride 2019. Yes, Queen Let's go see what some of these LGBTQ allies and friends have to say President So the bit seems to be highlighting Mike Pence's homophobia It seems to be taking his hatred of gay people as a virtue almost it's like, oh, yeah, you want to impeach Trump Well, guess what you get then it's almost a threat It's a very weird setup for a bit because normally you'd probably want to be like Mike Pence doesn't hate gay people

He just has traditional values But this seems to be making very overt that Millie Weaver at least is very conscious of the fact that Should Mike Pence be president things would be very bad for the LGBT community and she's wielding that Almost as a trump card kind of to like you you think you want Trump impeached be careful what you wish for jerk Yeah, it's fucked up. I'm not comedy. I'm confused. Is she parroting? I People on because she's almost more an effective parody of what the hard right thinks They are parroting trust me. It's not that she's insane. Yeah, this might be a genius

No, she's not I've seen enough of her work to know she's not on the second level. No, I Went through this with Ann Coulter 10 years ago. Yeah, thinking it's a brilliant parody Commentary no, they just can't go lower now or they can always go lower And I just don't think it's well thought out because there's probably some kind of like bit You could do along these lines that might have something to it, but this just seems hostile like it really just seems like a You know, I don't want Trump impeached you do If you get what you want your survival is at risk. Yeah, it's fucked up Is there a bit? I don't I mean that's it. That's what it is

That's the whole thing. It's kind of a display of cruelty as a bit That's so her plan was to go to the Pride parade and bum people and say you want Trump impeached and they go Yeah, and then she says you love Mike Pence. Was she trying to catch them not knowing like a like a well It's like Jay Leno man on the street where they're like, yeah, we want Mike Pence. See they don't know anything No, no, no politics at all. No, no, no, no It was more a like you like get people excited about Trump being impeached and then bringing them down to earth with the Well, don't you know that Pence would be president then? Which is oh dumb. That's just being a dick. Yeah, and also there's a fundamental thing

That's like yes people are drunk at the Pride parades people are drunk at all street festivals and things like that So if you're going out and you're like, I'm trying to do a serious piece of reporting It's like people are fucked up. They don't want to have they don't want to talk to you Yeah, but ha ha I caught them not realizing in a drunken moment of exuberance that Mike Pence would be president of Trump is impeached Who cares? What point are you making? Yeah? I only point is is bringing up Mike Pence's homophobia. Yeah, which is something that they should be not celebrating in a Don't understand. It's very weird. I also I propose a new amendment that I think we can all agree on parades are

Hollowed ground no pull no no like man on the street interviews during a parade just have a great time No political bullshit most of the time those organizers of events like that require people who are doing interviews to have press passes But it's very hard to control the flow of people. Yeah And so people end up generally being able to skirt those rules, especially if you're just recording on like an iPhone, right? But that you just let people have a good time at Pride. Nope. Can't you just not if you're rainbow snatch The world's greatest satirist Mark Twain of our times Rainbow snatch bull. So Alex comes back in and he's still on this African immigrants Ebola nonsense

But it's escalated a little bit It's escalated and Alex is in a really fucked up mood on this this episode because there's a little bit of video that Alex plays of Someone like pushing his camera away one of Owen's cameras away Don't doesn't want to be on film and this really really sets Alex off This is the incredible. Oh, and now they're covering our camera people. So so there's your headline Congo invaders Assault reporters Refugee sling Congo Ebola tell reporters they can't film them

Because they're the royalty The Godmen To come here to hate America and bitch and tell us how we suck and how white people are bad Because you know that's the brainwashing in the refugee camps in Africa getting them ready loading them on planes bringing them in Not nothing about any of the information he actually has indicates that that's the case. He's just projecting That's all that's all that is that's that's an insane Thing to put on these people with no information now I mean if he had video of them being like well in the refugee camps

They teach us to hate white people and they're bringing us in like oh That's interesting that guy said that still not proof that that's true, but you could you could report on that This is just Alex's sort of Replacement fears yeah, the the demographic replacement nonsense really Driving the train right fucked up Jesus God it's so stupid to point out hypocrisy. I hate it, but remember when a let's say

Republican fucking Congressman beat the shit out of a guardian journalist. I do yeah I seem to recall Alex being 100% for it. Oh, yeah, he was thrilled. He was overjoyed Yeah, and this dude was just like hey, can you not film me? Yeah, it's I hate these people Yeah, but I agree with you secondary though to how deep Alex gets into this hole This whole of like they hate white people right This next clip kind of made me feel unwell It gave me a little bit of a flutter in a sense of like oh I just think he's

There's something really fucked up going on in his head on the on the 11th and our crew was out there I was on this morning said Alex we walked down a street. There'd be 50 here a hundred there It's on the local news that they already have Congo Community groups that are saying all thousands are coming get ready for it. I have that newscast Doesn't play it That's what I'm saying. It's totally insane. Where's my clipboard? I've got that Congo clip I mean, I've got like 60 clips here Local Congolese family tries to make asylum seekers feel at home

So what and they say all thousands more come millions come No You gonna pay good And hey, I bet there'll be some reparations for slavery of it my kids I'll probably have to pay them a bunch of money because I'm a white devil But you sure fight hard to get into that white devil's place And then once you get in with that white devil you tell that white devil how bad he is I'm not taking this crap anymore. I'm done. You were done long ago. Yeah, what are you pretending?

This is some sort of new feeling for you. You stupid asshole God, so there's a couple things that really disturbed me about that first of all the voice obviously Then the editorializing that he does within that voice is really fucked up the idea that African Immigrants who are coming in now would ask for reparations is kind of silly I think he's trying to distort that argument entirely And then beyond that you can hear an echo and it really drove home like he's in a much worse studio Yeah, you know that the sound quality of the show is diminishing There is an echo when he starts yelling. This is not his professional studio anymore. Oh, that's no good

Yeah, there's a there's a different quality to it. I think he's Being angrier and angrier as he descends into worse and worse in virons the people who Assume that minorities all hate white people so much Probably only do it because they're so awful that they are hated. Well, I mean, it's not like everybody hates white people It's that you guys are dicks. Yeah, and you deserve it. It's also projection. Yeah, it is it is the like I hate these groups Why wouldn't they hate me? Right? Right? Right? It's a we're at Opposition in this. Yeah, you don't have to be dude. Yeah, you just be cool So in this next clip Alex makes it really overt that so much of his concern is about this Democrat

Demographic replacement idea This is all just his fears that these Africans are going to come in and vote Democrat Which is something that he talks about all the time But it does bear mentioning that like it's so fucked up a thing to say But it's become so normal as a piece of Alex's rhetoric that it's almost boring To because he's so much worse. I mean that last clip is yeah, yeah, so much worse But it bears reminding people that this also lives in his head once they break the migration routes into the country The Africans even tell you we're coming by the millions so they know they're part of a plan

And then they're gonna be given voter ID cards. They're gonna be signed up as Democrats They're gonna get their free welfare and the country will have its new voting block and that's it. So that's you know That's classic that's classic white nationalism stuff white people won't be allowed to run everything and run rough shot over Everybody and break everything that they want to and face no consequences for it. How can we allow that to happen Dan? It's it's it's insane. It's that's such How do you not know that you're a white you know, you're a white nationalist you even knows that he's a white nationalist Why well it makes me think of Dave Dobbinmeyer coach Dave the idea of like I'm a white nationalist I'm white and I'm a nationalist. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like lack of engagement with the ideas of what's going on whether it's intentional or just being

Naive and stupid like whatever it is willingly nice. Yeah Whatever it is. It's yeah, it's just a it's a lack of caring about getting engaged With the actual terms and ideas and what's actually going on. But yeah On some level he has to know what he's doing. Yeah, and the fucked upness about that is I think more evident in the I mean the shitty voice was racist as fuck, but the start of that is just literally Woman tries to help right and that he took as well Obviously, I need to turn this into a weird racist screed. Well. Yeah

I mean, it's like the story is a Congolese woman who lives in America knows more people of her country of origin are coming and Wants to make them feel welcome like the alternative I mean what he's responding to I guess what he would wish the headline is Congolese immigrants Made to feel not welcome. Yeah, exactly treated like Scourge That's fucked up and what he'd really like is Congolese woman treats other Congolese immigrants like Scourge because then he'd be like Haha, see she's a nationalist too and or a better headline for Alex would be Congolese people shot at border Yeah, pretty much. So anyway, God. Yeah, he sucks so

There's a big thing that happens on the 11th and that is Roger Stone comes back what well He has this gag order about his case, but that doesn't mean he can't talk about other things He can talk all he wants publicly He just can't talk about his case and anything that's related to it Right, right, I could have been on infowars this whole fucking time If you wanted to as long as you shut his mouth about things that involved Mueller the investigation His own case any offshoot of that case wiki leaks Jerome Corsi, I assume

Randy Kredeco, he can't defend himself Publicly, yeah these things and that's why he wouldn't want to be on yeah Yeah So he he took all like they kept him off infowars for a long time because they're like cooled down Because even if we had you on to talk about anything you would immediately be like Yeah, I know I understand that Obama fucked this up, but Mueller is the real one. Yeah. Nope. That's what you assume Yeah, we find out that there's a psycho drama going on between Alex and Roger. All right that this interview is

tense not tense uh-huh Bizarre, okay, and I think it leads Alex to start drinking, but we'll get to that when we get to that Here is Alex welcoming Roger Stone back onto infowars Roger Stone Glad we got you on I appreciate you contacting us first for your big exclusive Breaking your silence. Should I ask up front first as good to see your face good to talk to you this morning? Why are you breaking your silence now? Well, first of all, let me say how good it feels to be back on infowars And how much I have missed the camaraderie and the uh and the shared goals of you

David Knight Rob Dew Millie weaver o.m. Schreuer Mike Zimmerman and so many others there If there were theme music for this segment, I would choose gene autries back in the saddle again I thought he was going to say reunited and it feels so good Really hoping it was I don't know now he would have to settle again is fine He would have to be excited to be reunited with these people for that song to work instead

He is excited to be near them and at work On the phone very different situation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you might ask yourself. Why is Roger even on the show? He can't talk about his own personal stuff He doesn't really it's weird. It's it's a strange situation to be in where it's like we know you have a gag order Alex even makes clear that like we know you can't talk about that business Um, it's I was wondering what are they even gonna do? I thought one of Alex's subtle digs was a Thank you for contacting us first That was well, I thought that was a big well, we'll see

John dean is a congenital liar And he has costed himself By attacking The all republican presidents so that no one in the mainstream media will go back and examine His real role as one of those who conducted the watergate cover-up and lied to virtually everyone about it I had no choice but to come on info wars today and set the record straight So he's really just on the show to talk shit about john dean because he went and testified Yeah, we're talking nixon. That's what we're doing. We're talking as tattoo nixon, but we're not really

I mean, he's just talking shit about john dean and then he wants to give his rundown of the candidates in 2020 the democratic field Of course, it's a pointless interview for the most part. Yeah Well, he can't talk about the one thing that the interview would be valuable for it Right The only thing that we're interested in is you go to prisoner object. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and he can't talk about that But what he can do Is make a poop joke and alex loves it, of course I mean, I don't get my news from cnn for the same reason that I don't eat out of the toilet

That they write nothing they broadcast is true I think most of the american people know that it's kind of like at a certain point people recognize dog crap out in the yard It's like there's not lines around the block to eat that Exactly Their chemistry has not skipped a beat. It is electric Oh man, alex is not good at tagging. No first off. No second If that joke is really the one that hits the sweet spot for you, we got a long way to go It's also really funny because on our last episode alex was talking about how carl rove talks about shit all the time

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. Here. We have alex losing his shit for a poop joke in 2019 It's crazy. Oh boy. I told you there's a psycho drama going on And I think it really starts to manifest in this next clip where alex is kind of like, hey man Why haven't you called me? And I miss all of you terribly And I watch regularly to prepare myself for the upcoming trial in november And let's talk about some of that if you can without getting around without violating gag order, but Why wouldn't you even talk to me the last few months? I mean everybody was like, what's going on roger?

I'm like, I don't know you just say gag order gag order in the text messages Oh, well because I wanted to take a break. Um, it is an enormous task By the way, let me interrupt you. I'm famous for that. You'll have the floor of the next 15 20 minutes as long as you want to stay You look freaking 15 years younger. Maybe I should take a break for a couple months. You're looking pretty good there There's he doesn't even give him an opportunity to answer like alex is hurt. Yeah, it does sound like that hurt Why didn't you talk to me? That sounded really And that's why he had to interrupt him because if he gave a genuine answer then alex was like, no, no, no I can't feel I can't feel and he probably was gearing up to give at least a diplomatic

Yeah, uh, sincere answer like I wanted to take a break. I needed to get out of this space I was probably going to break my gag order if we talked more. We have an energy between us You antagonize me. I antagonize you. We just kind of bullshit drop my guard for a moment And then I relate the gag order and i'm in prison. Yeah Any of that or like with the bottom line of that is like you're kind of a negative influence for me. Yeah. Yeah That conversation probably is what alex wants to have so of course. Yeah, you interrupt some immediately But also it's interesting to know that behind the scenes Not talking alex is hurt. He is really alex is really hurt

But also he thinks that roger looks great and I did see the video and he does look pretty good Um, he looks like he's a little bit thinner. Maybe it's just because he's wearing a tight t-shirt I'm not sure but anyway, uh alex won't stop talking about how good he looks and roger is a fucking pro Roger i'm not kidding. You look 15 years younger because I know you used to work yourself to death fighting like 20 hours a day You look great, man Well, I appreciate that alex. It's because i'm still using a number of the products at info wars Including my all-time favorite Which I still highly recommend to anyone who's looking for that extra boost of energy late in the day

Works great for me and it'll work great for you. I'm still very much a believer and very much a customer While you're at it if you want to help me you can go to stonedefensefund.com What a pro He's so good. He needs to get his plug in so in order to do that. He plugs alex's shit He transitions off a compliment into the plug that he needs to make to make his own plug That is third stage that is good shit. Wow He is so good at this. Wow. Yeah, that is fucking Jesus

So alex has confronted him about the why haven't you texted me like why don't you talk to me anymore? And I don't think alex was satisfied with uh the answer that started and then the interruption I think that he still wants to try and guilt Roger about his jilting. Yeah, he feels rejected and ignored and neglected But alex can't make it all about himself So what he does is bring in oan shroyer to try and help kill uh, roger Could you please tell roger that I am not talking to him right now? It's not that it's roger. Look at our son You haven't talked to me and I understand that why haven't you talked to our boy?

You two used to host the war room together This is insane the level of like just petty drama that alex is bringing But let's bring on shroyer in your coos from the war room. He really misses you. He he was just asking me last week Why won't roger call me back? You know, uh, how do I get him back on air? Uh, so come on over here. Let me grab that mic from underneath the table there. I just decided to do this 10 seconds ago oan Why won't you why you know oan's real curious why you won't call him back? Hey, buddy. He's right here

He's got a weird beard with no mustache now. That's what happens when he doesn't have a father figure Yeah, yeah, look at that beard. He's growing. You left and nine months later. We got a little oan shroyer And you abandoned him. He really misses you man. Jesus imagine Feeling jilted by roger stone like imagine being emotionally. I can't imagine not knowing that this was the outcome. Yeah, like yeah And I don't I don't know. Did you even bother to read? I'm not I'm not picking sides on this thing Like alex didn't even bother to read his wikipedia page where it's like Oh, by the end by the way at the end of every relationship roger stone has ever had He's fucked off and told you to go to hell unless you have black my along. Yeah

So uh in this next clip uh before uh oan and roger get to have a little bit of a back and forth alex and uh oan do a little bit of goofing about how he went down to a place where ebola might be Uh, and uh, this gets pretty fucked up You're gonna tell us everything at the bottom of the hour. The point is you literally could have a bowler right now Well, uh, let's pray to god that I don't stay back Then they say it's carried in the semen though, so it's good. We're not gonna shake your hand Can I shake your hand? That's right. Just as long as you don't try to you know, stick your weaning in me All right. All right. Well, we're not gonna do that on air today. I'm sorry family show

No, literally it could it could gestate it can incubate in the testicles for a year And the doctor who who gave us the interview will talk more about this basically denied that Didn't deny it tried to explain what the reality is probably and you just didn't listen because you don't care And you're working towards a predetermined conclusion The fact that they're goofing around like that makes it fully clear to me that they don't believe There's a possibility even that oan has ebola Yeah from going down there because he knows that none of those people have ebola Yeah, it's all bullshit and it that kind of display makes it so clear

So but also alex is technically kind of correct Ebola has been shown in some cases to be able to survive in human testicles for periods of about a year A test of 429 survivors of the 2016 ebola outbreak in Liberia showed that 9 of them had some amount of fragmented ebola in their semen With 63 of that 9 still showing signs of it a year after they survived the condition This is why the world health organization has specific guidelines in place for sexual activity for people who have survived ebola While pointing out that more research needs to be done on the subject They say that a survivor's semen should be tested every three months And until they have two tests in a row that come back negative

They should refrain from intercourse or use condoms This takes care of any concerns about possible transmission that may come that may or may not even be possible We're not entirely sure right 40 dudes were found with some ebola and the guys were like hey Knock it off for about a year And then you'll be good. Well, yeah, it's a yeah, I mean that's a little simplistic But yeah, but you all might also notice that this is all surrounding survivors of ebola and that's because ebola doesn't hide out in the testicles waiting to infect a person for up to a year That's nonsense. If you have ebola in your nuts right now, you're gonna have ebola in a week

Alex is intentionally misrepresenting this medical information in order to reinforce his completely incorrect assertion That these people in san antonio probably have ebola even though you you don't know what you don't see it It's in the balls because it can gestate for up to a year instead of because it's a survivor Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's not just like hey Well, and that's not even gestating. That's just no a virus staying. Yeah um, so yeah, it's all nonsense, but it's a good thing they got to do a little bit of homophobic riffing and uh Goofing around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm pretty stoked that they can go from uh advocating that we

put murderers at the border to kill these people and then Turn that into a homophobic thing as well. That's really a triple lux right there much like roger is an expert at these pivots Yeah ad pivots, uh, they too are experts in making all bigotry connect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So, uh, there's something going on on this show. I mean roger's on they're having a real Uh, lost friendship moment on air But also matt drudge has picked up that roger stone is on info wars and he's topped link He topped linked it. So alex is now super excited about the fact that like we're number one on drudge right now

Well, you gotta know alex you don't share it back live with the one from roger roger is found exclusive You've got they can't stand that info wars.com and news wars.com exist Neither can I but they really can't stand the drudge report.com The second biggest website in the world not just the biggest news site. It is the biggest news site second biggest site In the world and look at that up After like yahoo and msm. It's always like, you know varies Second biggest news site in the world biggest site in the world What comes to news but second biggest site total and there it is live roger stone breaks silence

So alex keeps bringing this up And I think that the interview was supposed to be a bit shorter than it was But he keeps stretching it out because he knows that we're top linked on drudge. Yeah, gotta say that so much traffic Right. So alex is constantly also saying that drudge is the top news site in the world and the number two website total But generally he doesn't say you can look it up. I so I just don't I know he's lying But this time he invited me to explore it. So why not take him up on it? Sure Currently the number one website in the world is google number two is youtube number three is facebook wikipedia's number five

amazon comes in at number 10 mixed in or a bunch of Ton of like chinese websites like bydo and qq.com cool drudge isn't even in the top 50 Shit drudge isn't even in the top 50 sites if you only consider the united states You can make an argument that youtube is in some ways news related But there's also a lot to it that's more than just news. So maybe you don't want to count that as the top news site I was having a real tough time figuring out what constituted a news site So I could check alex's it's the top news site in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I but thankfully Alexa allows you to filter their results by website category

And when you do that and you only include news sites, guess what drudge is number 22 That's no good. He comes in behind reuters bloomberg cnbc USA Today forbes washington post fox news yahu news the guardian new york times and cnn Oh, and he also 14 spots down the list from shutter stock um, I Think alex would still Consider drudge the number one news source right right because he doesn't think those other things. No, he's not saying that

That's right. It's the number two Website in the world. Yeah, and number one in the news category and it is not it's number 22 in the news category Uh, they also on alexa. They have a subcategory of news which is just headline links which perfectly describes drudge Yeah, and he isn't even number one there. That's reddit reddit's number one and headline links really much more traffic than drudge According to alexa drudge is the 832nd biggest website in the world and 162nd biggest in the united states Which is very impressive. It is nothing to be ashamed of and i'm not shitting on it But it really does seem disappointing if you previously thought it was number one or two Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have I was expecting like he was embellishing but you know

It was in the 20s or something not even close no So alex might want to spin it and say that alexa is a company that's run by amazon So it's not trustworthy so fine. I decided to check quantcast They use slightly different metrics than alexa and they don't include as wide a range of sites like they don't include porn sites So this number is a little bit different They have drudge at number 41 in the united states, which is still way lower than alexa's claim Also, they're not the number one news site. They aren't even close like buzzfeed msn Vice and the hill are all far above drudge. Yeah, yeah

My point here is that alexa is just making shit up But he's doing it because to him drudge is the biggest website in the world Drudge was founded in 1995 right as alex was launching his career So the whole time alex has been peddling his shit drudge has been right there alex identifies with drudge So of course alex thinks that he's the most important and biggest thing in the world Exaggerating drudge's place in the world is one part hero worship, but one part pathetic narcissism by proxy Yeah, he feels that the two of their careers are like super intertwined and maybe there is something to that I think that there's probably

Probably a piece of it. Yeah, I mean it also benefits him specifically to The only time he talks about drudge report really is whatever he's on it. That's not fair I just don't I don't play a ton of clips. Okay. He brings it up a lot about how that it's the number one or number two Yes, okay, and about how like of all the conservative folk He's what drudge is one of the only people keeping the fire Yeah, that that sort of stuff and he brings up headlines from drudge a lot when he's just covering a story It's like you get this up on drudge So he he he brings it up outside of his personal connection

Yeah, uh a lot, but he also brings up their personal connection a lot, right? I just I I thought it was almost like a synergistic Advertising, you know like the more important drudge is the more important alex is when he's on drudge. That's definitely that's definitely fair Yeah, yeah, you know that kind of uh Look at how great I am because of how great this is and I'm on the number I'm the number one Results on the number one news site in the world. You know, I definitely believe that that's fair. Yeah So rogers on drudge is doing the advertising forum

Everything is great. They want to get into the 2020 candidates Um, uh, you know, biden is leading in some polls now. Sure, uh roger does not think this is gonna last Because he believes that there's a mystery candidate. There's a mystery candidate. Joe biden wants to run. Let him run. He's can father The obama machine will sweep him aside and I still predict that their strongest nominee their most likely nominee would be michelle obama I agree. In fact, the word is I was told by cia and these are real people This is not like regular people that say they work for cia. Sounds like they're not real people They've been surveilling that they had meetings a year ago with hillary and Michelle talking about running together and them debating who'd be the presidential nominee

Man, alex is an improv guy Like roger just throws that curveball michelle obama is the strongest candidate. Not only that the cia has told me that there are meetings Yep. Yeah, that's uh, that's did he did you do ucb? What are we doing here round legs? Yeah Where is that reporting earlier? Like where is like never mentioned it before needed roger to bring it up to double down on it Never ever mentioned it before crazy crazy stuff God, um, sir in this next clip alex expresses that he thinks that q anon is a leftist

Psyop Designed to try and fracture the connection between himself and donald trump. Well, that helps When I see the left saying oh trump doesn't like roger And they do that for the national news to try to drive a wedge Against trump and against you between you both. They do that to us. Oh the media calls. Oh, you hate roger now Oh, you guys have fallen out your big enemies now And I haven't halfway bought into that till I you know talk to you and you just get into these psyops with these people

And then the q anon movement, you know, oh alex is going to jail roger's going to jail It's all part of trump's plan to get the bad guys So the bad guys try to put us in prison And then the q is just some fake thing on the internet that says oh, that's trump getting the bad guys While trump is defending you saying you're a great guy on twitter and sending out my my videos and defending info wars The way the left works and the psyops they run Are just so disgusting and people really I think need to learn to see through them I do agree that that people need to learn to see through those sorts of things like q anon being like a wild pile of bullshit

but I don't think the logical like conclusion to come to is this is the left right up right right that's uh That's the other kind of bad thinking. Yeah, we're we're right back at yes You came to the right conclusion people should learn to see through this Yeah, the way you got there is the dumbest possible road you could have taken and you're a shit advocate for Helping people get to the right conclusion. Yeah, you only reach the right conclusion because you found a way to make it work for you Right and that's not good and even then your main goal is to only obfuscate the same way Just have people come to you. Yeah, you know for sure. Yeah, so in this next clip we learned that twitter

You know, I mean one of the biggest websites in the world people Love it. Some people hate it, but it turns out its days are numbered I should add trump just warned twitter two days ago. He said I am coming after you and knowing the president before he said I'm looking at it But now he's he's gone through the phases of meeting privately publicly warning him a bunch He's always very judicious. He's a counterpuncher. But what does it mean when he tweets? Okay? I'm coming after you the word is he's got a whole new conservative twitter ready that if he energizes it, he'll break twitter Well, uh, what it means to me is that he's been watching us here at info wars dot com

Uh, the idea that trump has a conservative twitter ready to go Uh, I don't know what level of Wack you've got to be to think that that's going on So he's just so the president using the powers of the presidency, I guess well magic has just has just been like Okay, we've designed a conservative twitter. Yeah, and we're gonna launch it We're just right waiting for the right time Which I assume is very shortly after mike adams the health ranger is kicked off facebook I would assume so. Yeah, that that makes sense, right? You know what ding dong? It already exists. Yeah, it's called gap

Like go over there. Just go. Yeah, he's he's already over there probably right? I'm certain he is. Yeah, uh, it takes a lot to get kicked off there It is it is weird how impotent trump is showing himself to be even as he exercises Ridiculously powerful pain and cruelty Like so much of him saying stuff is just he says he's going to do something The news covers that people get all excited or all angry about it And then it turns out later that he actually can't do anything and

Nobody cares because it's five days later and some of that strategic too. I mean like in this case It's clearly to preserve this base that feels jilted by social media Companies and so I mean there is there is a strategic element to Paying lip service to certain and I think all politicians do that. Yeah over sure for sure. Yeah, biden definitely no longer supports the height amendment We had that was immediate. We got that settled. I'm sure Yeah, so um in this next clip alex gets back to his personal feelings about roger And he tries once again to know what find out. Why didn't you call me? And I think from roger's response

You get a pretty clear sense that he does not really care that alex feels rejected. Duh I'll have you back on but I want to look we haven't talked Except maybe twice on the phone the last three four months. Maybe 10 voice messages. I looked it up Uh, you said I can't talk to you gag order. Suddenly you're ready to go hog wild. That's great. What has changed? I already asked a question earlier, but uh, what what what's happened? Let's be very clear today's conversation has been about John dean's testimony yesterday Before the house judiciary community, but I had those conversations with you three months ago. I said roger

I'll keep you employed. You're better not talking about russia gate. Everyone's come on and talk about the race Talk about politics and then suddenly you you just disappeared. So i'm not i'm not i'm not breaking your balls I'm asking how your calculus changed from then to agreeing with me Well, i'm an old warhorse and I could not see this presidential campaign unfold Without putting in my two cents and i've been scrupulous here today I have not discussed anything in relation to the charges against me or on my upcoming trial They're gonna try to spin it that you did but it's a damn lie I don't think alex got what he needed out of that exchange

And i'm sure drudge is now like really glad he toppled like this. Yeah This sort of break down of Emotional emotional dynamics. Yeah, it is still I I mean also. Oh, and sure you're still silently Weeping into it into a yeah No in full knowledge that he's a prompt It's I I still feel empathy Even though it is so obvious and i'm blindsided by how stupid these people are whenever they're like, oh Trump roger stone. Why don't you return my calls anymore? And it's like dude

They never cared about you. They don't have loyalty and they will toss you aside when you're no longer useful How did you not already know that but then watching him like grovel and it's like I still feel sad for how stupid you are you don't convinced yourself You don't feel an empathy for the people you feel an empathy for the situation. Yeah, absolutely Because it's evocative of you know people who don't deserve that sort of treatment for people, right? You can identify with it. Yeah, I think I think that that's only human to have that response But to care about alex's hurt feelings is that's a bridge too far. Good call So we get back now to the idea about the cia

Telling alex that michelle obama and hillary clinton had met to discuss running for president. Hey, guess what roger stone? Not into this bullshit Oh, yeah, that was my question earlier. So i'm sure you know about the meetings. I've confirmed They've been in meetings debating who'll be on the top of the ticket. So can you comment on that? You know, I have some skepticism about that. Oh michelle obama doesn't need hillary clinton She'd be an exceptionally strong nominate The obama still controlled the machinery of the democratic party michelle obama could command the money necessary To stage a viable tendency. So you think she's the dark horse for the democrats

There's no question about it. And we should not take that lightly She would be an extraordinarily formidable and by the way, i'm not bowling down the political correctness. She's brown But when you somebody comes from nowhere to win, it's called dark horse. I'm gonna use the term. I'm not being politically correct There's no one said no one said she's the dark horse candidate you're saying And she's the she's the outsider. She's the improbable But she would be an exceptionally strong candidate and we should not underestimate that very very So michael obama is the leader right now Michelle michelle. I'm not gonna cut it. I I've told you how I see the democratic side shaking up alex

It's been great to be back with you. I miss you. I miss all of my colleagues at info wars I look forward to doing this again. Hey, hey, let me tell you how this works. We're top linked on drugs, my friend That means hundreds of millions of views not tens of millions. You are gonna stay with us five more minutes. I need you I need you i'm getting attention because you're on you're doing five more minutes That was that was a lot. It was wild in one short pit Every single clip that you've chosen today seems to have been a very lot in a very small amount of time I told you before we started like it's a mess of a couple miles. Yeah, this is why alex is going through a lot So you've got in that clip. You've got roger

rejecting alex's nonsense Yeah, no no ucb which shows that roger knows that when alex says the cia told him something It's not true. Yeah, he knows that his sources are shit. And so he's like, uh, yeah, i'm skeptical of that. That's nonsense alex Oh, michelle doesn't fucking need hillary. What are you talking about? That's ridiculous. And then alex Correctly uses the term dark horse. No one is going to say like that's a racist thing It doesn't even sound like a dog whistle in any way. It just seems like a correct use of a colloquial term But he is so Self-conscious or whatever that he has to justify his use of the term. She's brown

Like it's very it's it shows the mental state. He's keenly aware of how racist he is What's weirder is that it's he was saying i'm not being politically correct So it says he's talking about a political correctness Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it seems like he's afraid that his listeners are gonna call in and be like you should have called her You know, like no, I think he's more mad that he's not being offensive Maybe that he's more worried that his listeners will think he's going out of his way to be afraid to not be offensive I feel like he's responding to imagined criticism that'll get from like media matters Yeah, it calls michelle obama a dark horse. Right, right, right, right

Uh, I which it would never come because that would be ludicrous But it is uh, not not okay that he's still doing the she's a man narrative. Yep. That's the thing that was even weirder Yeah, it's all it's this is like I would never be racist She's a man But I think part of that that like spiraling and weird in it I think alex has started drinking by this point. You think so yes Because I think the interaction with roger is not gone the way he wanted Right, right. He was hoping for some sort of emotional recognition on roger's part that he had wronged him, right?

He wants a catharsis. Yeah, you I you wouldn't call me. I texted you and you said gag order you what we didn't have to talk about your case I thought we were friends. We've been in this for years now You've been on my show every day my main source of information. I changed my brand for you Basically, yeah, yeah And you just threw me aside He needed something and I don't think he got it and I think he started hitting the booze because it starts to get real weird Uh, the end of this show is

Uh, I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. It's like he he's clearly showing signs of being fucked up. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, so he drinks his emotions basically. Yeah, um, so but also when he get back he gets back from break He can't again just can't stop talking about being on drudge This is a short segment Top length news is gonna be dissecting this for weeks Roger stones broken in silence on alex Jones with info wars.com and news wars.com coming up next segment the exclusive footage of thousands not hundreds of ebola potential infected Africans from congo in

San Antonio assaulting reporters. It's all coming up He's really exaggerating a lot of what footage he has because he's getting some of that drudge audience hoping to keep them over Yep, so him and roger wrap up the interview in a fairly boring way just because You know nothing's gonna top what's already happened roger Uh Please just tell me you love me. They agree to please just tell me you love me They agree to stay in touch and uh that uh, he'll be back on the show and roger plugs his stuff a lot

Yeah, um, it's all good. So, uh, alex gets back and uh, he's back on the ebola bullshit I have local conganese Group saying oh millions are coming. Nope more coming how we get it already happened to europe And again, I'm not even against these people, but these are uneducated. You are poor people with diseases Who come in and become creatures of the democrats? You hear the way he's like gasping almost his uh, his his

Verbal pattern has shifted. Yeah, that seems indicative of intoxication. Uh, also he's saying literally I wouldn't be mad about these people, but they're poor uneducated and diseased. Yeah, I think I think you have no Reason to believe that I think you have no evidence of any of that You don't know anything about these people You don't know what economic situation any of them are in you don't know their educational background You're making a blanket statement based on your fucking bigotry. That's all you're doing because you were a white nationalist. Yeah. Yeah Trump, uh, what was trump? We want we want the best immigrants and it's like, ah, man, man Don't even bother. Yeah, so

Reinforcing my theory that alex has started drinking Um, oh and shawyer now since roger's gone gets to start talking and the two of them tag team some conspiracies about these immigrants Okay, and it's kind of like you remember that interview with corsie where the two of them were fucking insane. Yeah. Yeah This is the opposite. Uh, this is This is real clunky because one guy is clearly been drinking and the other one has not and so Owen's kind of trying to keep the ship moving forward and alex is just all over the place Why do we have to take everybody in? Oh, by the way, but some of them alex. They're not coming here. So down trodden They've got smartphones. They've got new clothes. I said that

They're going on this is our upper crust Coming in to wait. I thought they were poor. Yeah, and it I thought they were poor and under educated now They're the upper cross. Is it bad? Which one is bad? I don't know both bad. They are both bad because they're just not white. Yeah, I don't know I'm gonna restart this clip though. Just so you can hear it all in flow Why do we have to take everybody in? Oh, by the way, but some of them alex. They're not coming here. So down trodden They've got smartphones. They've got new clothes. I said that this is our upper crust Coming in to then with smugglers to create the anchor baby connection

You can do you could be a world traveler some of these people traveled to 13 different countries on this ride They get it all paid for wait a second. We can't even take care of our own people. So look Let's be humanitarians. Yeah, we want to worry though. They all want reparations. They already are like America sucks We're here to get the free stuff and some of them in in the video when I get in and start chanting at me to leave It's like wait a second. I'm paying for you to be here bucko. Oh, I love it. I didn't even assault you It's like hey, we're here. Give us your goddamn. Excuse me lord. Give us your money, bitch That's amazing. That is amazing the apologizing. I'm sorry lord if it's swearing again Ah

He is untethered At this point in the show goddamn. I'm sorry lord Jesus fucking christ. These people are coming over. It's wild Yeah, uh, yeah, so the they're the it's an anchor baby scam now I mean, he's all over the place with the theory, you know, like the theory is completely lost Whatever beginning it had it is now grown to like it's everything It's all of his narratives wrapped in one And it gets worse in this next clip because he takes it He takes it to another place that he has no reason to take it

But can you believe that only drudge report dot com Covered this and the video is like you think america will want to know like people from an abola country thousands are pouring in Buses all day are pulling out people are going god knows where not vetted. They admit 30 percent end up in sex slavery They don't give a scratch behind, baby because it's a la akbar You just saw it This is this is the leftist takedown of the country bad I don't like how much he's saying baby, uh quite frankly it uh, that's evidence of him drinking. It's off-putting goddamn Also that uh, I guess they're muslims now. Yeah, they're also muslims. Why does he think that because they're not like

They're not like us stan. I don't know what they're not like us They're muslims. I do not know what he's doing, man Like for this entire episode the attacks on the refugees from the congo were pretty focused I mean like at least the first couple hours of the show and the 10th uh, june 10th episode It was disgusting stuff and completely inaccurate and based on overt white nationalism But it went down a pretty straight line of the abola fear. Yeah now towards the end of the show I think he's had a few drinks and now these folks are muslims who want to take down america If alex knew anything about the topics he covered on air

He would know that according to the pew research center congos population is 96 percent christian Only about one percent of the country is muslim, which is not too much higher than the us percentage is 0.8 percent I really think alex started drinking during the commercial breaks when raja was on because he knew that drudge was linked to him So you it was drinking out of a drudge mug. He had a drudge mug Oh boy a camera and oan seems pretty annoyed like if you if you're watching the video He doesn't he doesn't seem to be enjoying the exchange all too much alex's behavior has completely changed It's uh, it's very insane He's trying to work in all the different groups

He hates to build up this conspiracy and oan's just trying to keep the ball moving forward because he's proud of whatever field piece He did this is a sad disgusting picture and it doesn't get better Yeah, I I would like to know what he's drinking because he's only on air for three hours And he's he's really he's he's ahead of the game. I would say I it takes I mean at a reasonable rate It takes me longer than three hours to get to uh, I think it's taller muslims coming in really low could be because of his Uh lack of oxygen. I don't I don't know if that's the case, but you know, there people respond to substances differently Yeah, that's true. There's a decent chance that uh, he has a thing where he drinks a bit gets pretty drunk pretty quick and then can Keep maintain for a long time. Yeah, that's that's good stuff

Yeah, people people respond definitely sometimes people pass out some don't who knows I Just be his biology I am furious at Anyone who says why are we why do we have to be the ones who take them in sure? I hate that I hate that so much because that's Why do we have to be the ones because that's who we fucking are? Yeah, that was the whole gig man It was a big it was a big part of this uh, americana idea You know, that's why we take them in because that's what originally drew people to this stupid fucking country

And all of these different other countries aren't the melting pot that we are That's why people thought we were so great and now they see us for the white nationalist dumbasses that we are And that's what's fucking going down. Yeah, you piece of shit shroyer. Well. Hey, don't talk bad about him He's one of the only sorry people left in this country. Sure. He's a brave american I don't think so Just me having the courage of going in there and asking a question I could tell that some of the people in there were like, whoa, there's an america actually standing up for america right now This is not yeah, that's what we heard. This is a country of slaves

And then we're somehow bad alex the most humanitarian aid given out to foreign countries They all want to get here and then once it's all free we suck and white people are bad I agree white people are bad. I agree with salon and see it in white people are evil Man he is going through something But I want to talk about what elwin shroyer said not the part about him being a brave american and all that stuff But to his question about why the us is if the us is so bad, how why do we give out so much foreign aid? I mean I have an answer But i'm not going to provide that answer because I have a way more fun way to respond without getting into how resources are

Misdirected and all that sort of shit Before trump came along the only politician alex and info wars completely supported was ron paul He was the gold standard among all politicians and alex's operation was fully behind his runs for president in 2008 and 2012 alex loved ron paul so much that he even supported his wet noodle of a sun rand One of ron paul's signature issues was his proposal to literally abolish all foreign aid a position that even former alex jones guest webster tarpley has said his tantamount to willing genocide into existence Even figures who are fairly conservative look on ron paul's approach to this issue has manifestly cruel and really fucked up But this is alex's favorite politician of all time and i've never heard him say something like i love ron paul

But i think he's a little out there on wanting to stop sending emergency aid to places What i'm getting at is that when you exist within a propaganda organization that carried water for a muppet-voiced asshole Who's dead set on eliminating foreign aid for over a decade? You don't get any points from bringing up how great this country is for providing foreign aid something you're manifestly against My point here. oan treuer is very stupid and this whole operation exists as an opportunistically abusive machine info wars supported ron paul's desire to abolish foreign aid because it would hurt other people And presumably have more provide more money for quote-unquote us Now they're perfectly happy to act like they support foreign aid so they can use said aid as a weapon to shame immigrants and refugees

This is crucial to understand what they're doing appears on the surface to be hypocritical But if you understand what it was about their former position and their Present actions it becomes clear that what motivates both is the same a hatred of people unlike themselves That's key. Yeah. Yeah It's a like At a certain point Do you think they're gonna go all the way around and be like? Hey, we're gonna start sending more foreign aid So you don't come here. It would be an interesting argument for them to try and make

I would see if they could do that I don't think they ever could because it would probably involve like increased taxation So their base would turn on them for that But I don't know it would be an interesting attempt on their part to make like a compromise between these weird beliefs Yeah, I don't know. I think that they value Cruelty more than anything else. So I don't I don't think they would do that Yeah, because it would be like decreased cruelty and increased taxes. Nope That's the worst thing that I could possibly think of so now at this point

Uh, uh, roger has left And oh and still there but alex has another guest who comes in and that is katelyn bennett The girl who is most famous for walking around can't stay with a gun. Yeah, she's great She has been a humiliating uh douche since then Got involved with like turning point usa charlie kerks organization and then I guess wasn't she's great She's all over the place. I don't really have many feelings about her other than like This is a fucked up appearance that she has on the show Because she starts talking about an interaction that she had when she was out making a field piece for info wars

And what she's clearly describing is someone who is willing to talk to her until they realized who she was But she's describing it as like they turned in the middle of the interview. Yeah, it's just very bizarre to see this kind of like, uh Just sort of lack of awareness Probably intentionally. Yeah, but uh the guy in the the white shirt that said nobody's illegal I actually had a good conversation with him and we actually interviewed him and he gave a pretty good answer It wasn't a bad answer. It wasn't a clickbait answer. And then it's like he realized Oh crap. I just remembered my program is working now I don't like her so she he went and got his dad and then his dad and himself teamed up and decided that they were gonna come

Attack me for no reason. I mean, he's old enough to know not to act like this He's old enough to know and then he's teaching his son to treat women like that And these are the real democrats that are out there This is not a minority people say that this is a minority in the democratic party and it's not This happens all the time to me if it were a minority, it wouldn't happen every time I go out Well, I think that the only thing that's the same every time you go out is you So if the same thing seems to be happening every time you go out You've got to realize that the only variable that is the same in all of those circumstances

Is what you bring to it. I don't understand. She doesn't either No, I believe all democrats are programmed uh to attack I I think she's specifically trying to say that it's all women as well I guess that's it. It's all sexist men, which if she's receiving a bunch of and i'm sure she is receiving a bunch of Shit, uh bag attacks from the quote-unquote left. I certainly I certainly oh, yeah, probably Guarantee, yeah, I guarantee it and the video and that's bad. That's wrong in the videos that she put out I don't know why I did this to myself But I did watch a bunch of them and I don't see that being represented in those videos

It probably does exist on on in some form, but that that and that's wrong I that's absolutely wrong period If you're if you're in a fucking asshole to people on the street like you are Then uh, it would be prepared for them to be a dick back to you. Yeah, definitely Um, and the idea that like he didn't know who she was and then got the sense of like, oh, she's poking Yeah, she's trying to antagonize me. I don't maybe I know who she is. Maybe I don't I don't want to talk to you anymore That's not your programming kicking in that's realizing the conversation you're in is with someone who has bad faith How is it deciding? I'm done with it. Yeah. How old was the the the person probably mid twenties mid twenties

And they did maybe younger. It's hard for me to tell anymore. Yeah He was youthful though for sure. He was a youth. Yeah, okay And we'll get more into her videos here in a second because like I said, I did watch a bunch of them and their dog Shit, but alex is really on this thing where he's like I send Millie and katelyn out there And they just get attacked all these dudes attack them They attack them and I can't stand that by there I can't believe these people aren't chivalrous and my women are out there on the streets And they're being attacked. Yeah, I'm gonna be misogynist in the middle of decrying misogyny

But it's for a reason right and here's the reason and I told millie. I said millie you got to stop going out in public She said no I'm gonna keep doing it This is the right thing and just and I'm we're not trying to be victims here folks. These are women getting beat up And I'm literally looking at the bills and what we're under here and I don't I want to hire more reporters But let me tell you something. I need to be able to send Registered armed men Who are off duty police? Those are 50 to 100 hours an hour for high conflict stuff. The gilbons are 100 bucks an hour

I've got all the former black water people ready. What I just need an extra 10 000 dollars a month We'll have our women defended here. That's crazy. There's a lot of craziness in there First of all, but you responded to that he has black water ready to go. That's not good. No, it's not that's not good Alex your past self would tell you do not work with black water. Yeah, they are Evil mercenaries. Yeah, you remember all those war crimes that black water committed or hey, Alex You remember all the times you talked about black water being a bunch of war criminals like black water. You didn't some changed Yeah, oh curious But the other thing is he's using their perceived victim hood to try and raise

We need another 10 000 dollars, which is fucked up. We can't send women out there. They're too weak by themselves And then you know what's even more fucked up What happened to open carry What happened to your whole idea of like Michael Moore is a hypocrite because he has armed guards when everyone should just carry guns themselves Why not just give a million her a gun? Oh, they're Caitlyn a gun Dan. They're they're They're ladies. We're trying to be chivalrous Dan. We can't allow the the women to have Be in any kind of conflict. I don't think that that's what's motivating Alex I think it's that he knows that that's bullshit. Yeah, he needs a show of force

Around them or some sort of intimidation, but he doesn't want them actually having guns But he doesn't he doesn't want these things escalating. He just wants like a big muscle around them info wars Former black water bodyguard. Yeah killed one person today in a quote self defense I mean, it does come down to the misogyny of chivalry too. Yeah, really It really is in there. Yeah, I don't know 100 so I don't know why I did this to myself But because Alex kept going on and on about these assaults and stuff I decided I would watch all the Caitlyn's videos that she just put out from what she went down to pride And uh, she's playing the victim super aggressively. She was looking for a soul to steal

I've never watched any long stretches of her work in the past and man She is fucking incompetent as a person on the street like that that style of bit Yeah, she is fucking trash at this The only value that she has in that field as a as a person on the street reporter is that she doesn't stop talking That's basically the only thing if I were like giving a performance review that would be in the pros Everything else would be in the negatives like you are you don't stop That's I mean, that's what we're looking for good

So the assault that she suffered is that some girl bumped into her and then pretended that she had gotten pushed and that's why she bumped into lame That's it lame Later a cop talks to her because a ton of people complained about her behavior and warns her that if there are more complaints She might get charged with disorderly conduct, which is just I mean that's something that happens if you're disrupting people You know that's that's the consequence of your behavior Right

Caitlyn could then complains that she's been assaulted and so the cop asks if she'd like to file a complaint He was very helpful. He's like, okay Well, let's uh, you know you want to file a complaint about that because we can Caitlyn then realizes that she has the assault on camera So she considers filing a complaint But then she realizes that if she does the cop will have to take her camera as evidence to investigate the complaint And she won't be able to post this video to rile up her fans and get the attention that she so desperately wants Immediately she's clear about not wanting to file a report and starts reframing the situation as the police wanting to confiscate her property

The cop handles himself quite well making it clear to her that he knows what game she's playing and that if she wants to file a complaint They can do it But if she keeps bothering people then there might be another complaint She might be asked to leave She just keeps keeps asking like she's being oppressed by this cop Explaining to her that there are consequences for your actions If you're out in public and people keep complaining about your behavior, you might be asked to leave a place free speech Well, sure you free speech you do have free speech free speech right

But I mean if you're drunkenly yelling at somebody you could be asked to leave somewhere even if it's a public place You're right. They are Absolutely suppressing the free speech rights of alcoholics in bars these days. This might be a case. We need to set up an alcoholic twitter Alex is going to take this up. You might you might run with this one Trump is going to launch a drunk twitter. Yeah, so I thought this was a really pathetic display this video I mean, obviously this girl shouldn't have bumped her but in the scale of things. It's like this is the fucking lame Yeah That said there is one woman in this video that I think is the fucking coolest

So katlin's out there pretending to want to interview people and then just being like She's just antagonizing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and then there's this clearly drunk girl with blue hair It just has her phone pointed at katlin and she keeps saying you're the gun girl And then like she just keeps cracking herself up It's the gun girl and it's oh man. It made me laugh so hard. That's so good It's the closest thing to actual joy that has ever been on video with an info wars watermark. Yeah, it's delightful. That's great Yeah See now that's so much more effective than any kind of argument make her look silly

Yeah, don't even bother with like what do you got to say? What are you political positions? No, no, you're the you're the lady who got hit with a milkshake You are a lady who got bit. Oh milkshake lady. Don't do that. Yeah, because that uh Feeds into their victimhood complex right right make fun of something that they presumably are proud of. Yeah. Yeah Absolutely something that is an imagined accomplishment. I took a picture with a gun black. Yeah, uh You're the gun girl The the amount that this girl was sincerely laughing about the idea that katlyn bennett exists Is so delightful. I loved it. That is great

So then there's another clip that she has that's from a pete butta jig rally And a guy did knock her camera out of her assistant's hand in that video and you know Based on what she has on film. It looks kind of egregious. Yeah, but it's unclear what happened before this The video is clearly edited to make it look like it was a completely unprompted thing But it doesn't seem like it is Katelyn's entire brand is poking people to try and antagonize them into yelling her Yelling at her so she can prove her victimhood, right? Obviously. He shouldn't have touched her or her camera But from watching the footage, I definitely don't think it accurately portrays their interaction

It's propaganda and the message is that katelyn is a victim of leftist violence. That's what the video is actually about It's not about pete butta jig or his Supporters at all the message is leftists are attacking this saintly white woman. Yeah, that's what's going on Yeah, and the last two and a half years that we've been doing this show I've listened to thousands of hours of alex jones' show and I would do that all over again before I watched another 20 minutes Of katlyn bennett doing whatever it is. She does It's just bad faith trolling masquerading as journalism and more than that It's super boring the way she misinterprets news isn't it's not interesting

And she's not even really clever enough to spin her way out of most interactions with the people She's talking to for instance at that pride rally Some of the attendees are saying to her that she has no reason to be there and she just loves the attention To which she responds and i'm getting it and i'm getting it. I love it A propagandist in better control of themselves wouldn't allow that sort of optic to exist When it's really easy just to counter with something like what needs attention is how intolerant the left is Some dumb shit like that. She doesn't even know the chops to think on her feet on that basic level It's just a disgraceful display

But bottom line she sucks uh that girl shouldn't have uh bumped into her But honestly I lose my ability to care about her complaints when a cop directly offered to take a complaint and file it for her multiple times And she decided not to because it would slow down the release of this propaganda victimhood baiting video Yeah, so I decided to uh look into her a little bit because of how extreme alex is and her praise Of her and how fucked up it is all these assaults and stuff, but That's why we're talking about it a little bit. I promise i'm not gonna talk about her ever again I don't I don't out find her interesting like I was trying to find a way to capture this and i'm not entirely sure This is gonna make sense

But like one of the things that makes alex's propaganda interesting is it's complicated You know, there's a bunch of things he's pretending to reference the stories aren't easily like If I were sitting down with him talking about stuff most of the time I couldn't rebut what he's saying with like, oh, you just have you just misunderstand this. Yeah with katelyn It's so easy to just be like, oh, you just don't know what that word means. Yeah, it's just like, oh, no I understand what the misunderstanding. Right. Right. All right. It's it's the willful misinterpretations are surface level that she's doing and it's just uh It's just dumb. Yeah, it's dumb

It's uh, I hate to say that it's it's beneath the class of uh, folk that I want to Yeah, I want to look at why would you hate to say it? It is beneath the class of the folks that you want to look at fair enough So in this next clip Alex talks about some rich oil families in texas that he's related to yeah, I'm surprised and he says something very interesting I want to hire security for these ladies folks I know all these texas oil families

That i'm related to I don't I never got any money from it. They're like, oh, you're doing great. Alex these people have helicopter pads Sounds like they have mansions all over the world, but they never give a damn dime to freedom He says that they have helicopter pads Never give a damn dime to freedom. Nope stingy I have literally never heard alex talk about people in texas who have helicopter pads who are super rich Except when he's been specifically describing the people who tried to lure him into satanism when he was younger It's the only other time helicopter pads in texas have come up with rich people He's related to the satanists who tried to lure him as a child

Further reinforcing your argument. I think he's a satanist. I think he's a satanist Dan I think I accidentally stumbled onto something brilliant. I think that that's possible and I want that to be The other possibility is that like this imagined rich mansion with helicopter pads is the only thing His brain can really pull up as an image. Yeah of of this like high class opulent wealth Kind of thing and so when he needs to describe the satanists as like really rich helicopter pad That's what he goes to I think it's either he's a satanist or he has a childish imagination That only has a few stops along the way You know and it does actually it makes perfect sense that he has a childhood imagination regarding wealth because that is how people

View like that's trump's whole brand. Yeah, trump's whole brand is a very like You know Unsubtle view of what wealth means his gold apartment. Yeah, he's always got to be Displaying wealth and so so many people performative. Yeah, and that's not you know, so of course Jones would get on his train because look it's the very Picture of what I see as success. Yeah, that makes it that much worse. Yeah immediately back in 2015 Alex is like all that wealth is bullshit. He's pretending Exactly. So in this next clip, man

One of the things I love the most about alex jones from 10 years ago Is hearing him sing along with the highway man And it turns out alex when he's drunk in 2019 Also likes to talk about the highway man and it's not as fun anymore I'm going to steal me a silver stout Why the silver I had to do some uh Silver bullet from info or store.com before and after I was in the Ebola camp. Listen to Waylon Jennings Just a touch of sadness in the fingers. Just a touch of sadness center finger thunder and lightning air thighs

I've never seen anybody attack women in public cowards do it in private The fact of the left attacks women in public everywhere is a sign of their downfall Whatever so, uh, like I like that. Oh and is trying to do a plug like he's pretty smooth there But turns out alex likes Waylon Jennings more than he likes selling silver bullet I like that on a on a professional show at one point the guy's like shut up. Shut up. This is my favorite song Shut up. Shut up. Get out of here. I know that moment man. I've been there. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah That's that's fine. But we can't we can't be doing that. It's a bad look Speaking of bad looks, uh, Caitlyn's still there. I'm not saying this about her looks

I'm saying the way alex behaves in this clip is a bad look because he starts talking about how great she is Um, and he slips at the end of this Caitlyn Bennett, you know, I've been watching your work for like the last year and a half since you went public at Penn State. It was Kent State And since you've done that you have been on fire And you put up with the lies you put up with the fake disinfo pieces they put out against you Oh, he's same things to me the same fake memes and you've embraced it. Let me tell you something

I salute you and I've got three daughters And I hope that my daughter's grown to be like you. I admire you. I love you. I envy your fiance I love my wife. I'm not saying I want to you know try to marry. I'm saying I am envious of you Why are you envious of her fiance? Why would you say why would you say something like that? You know, I get that as like a a an oblique Compliment like the idea being like hey, you're so great I'm envious of your husband or your fiance forgetting to be with you not necessarily meaning, you know, let's bang But alex means let's bang

I yeah, it's not it's not an appropriate thing to say It sounds like something that a dad a drunk dad would say at a wedding Gross Exactly. I think I think it's a real real slip I because look what what does alex know about katlin's fiance that he exists Yeah, that's about it that he gets to be with her right that's a that is about it. That's all he knows Yeah, I'm envious of your fiance. That's gross

Um, so in this next clip like you're saying alex is drunk You haven't heard from drunk yet here. He starts to give a speech about gender and it's a very interesting No, it's a very interesting perspective that he's bringing to the table. No But the truth is every woman is half her father Every son is half his mother. We are unified. There is no sex We are units humans are unified in total collectivism of the genetics of the species But individualism manifest the resistance and manifest the grace destiny and the enemy fears the destiny Cool, I left that pause in there because it's a bit of a time before anyone responds. Yeah, it's like

alex, you don't know what you're even saying alex those words I those words all mean things, but when you put them together, they don't mean anything So I mean, I guess he's saying that like there is no clear-cut genders and all that stuff. Yeah Right, right. Right. Congratulations alex. You've you've come around to the thing you scream against all the time Yeah, I was gonna say you're no longer transphobic. You're oh, he still is. Oh, yeah, okay. Never mind. He's just drunk. Oh, okay So in this next clip alex again is expressing a bizarre level of drunkenness and uh They're still on this gender tip and katlyn starts discussing about how she believes that gender roles and specific gender roles Are what gives society its strength?

Um, and then alex responds very bizarrely You know, there's a lot of people with a lot of democrats and feminists and I know I keep saying it, but they think it's worse to be a Mother and want to be a home taker and take care of your family They they berate women who want to simply just be moms or be feminine or wear high heels and wear pink and Have those gender roles. There's nothing wrong with having these gender roles because that what makes up our society That's why the american culture is so strong is because we have gender The high heels all of it is putting on a pedestal

It's on a pedestal And you should be should mama. Whoa Whoa, that's weird. Yeah, that's weird. You should you should mama You know in the same way that I I like empathize with the situation where alex is gonna is getting tossed aside and No loyalty from roger stone in the same way. It's like with her and alex I can't you uh, you support right wing positions and everything. It's a good scam, but you're gonna be treated. Yeah, like Second-class citizens. So, you know, I

He's gonna be a shit asshole to you. So fucking I'm sorry, but uh, yeah, it's a it's a world where everyone is getting one up on each other It's hard to figure out any time you should care. Yeah So, um, one thing that I think is really important to discuss here And I think it's one of those like really surface level misunderstandings that katlyn has It's that if anybody thinks that wearing pink or being a mother is somehow against feminism or is against the principles of the Laughed or anything like that then they're a shithead and I don't think there are many people who actually believe that I think that the surface level misunderstanding that she has is the idea that people should be felt like

Made to feel like they need to Subscribe to these gender roles right is the problem right the idea that these Traditionally feminine ideas are what you must subscribe to what you must manifest You need to have children or else you're not a full woman Right those sorts of ideas are the things that feminism and uh people on the left are opposed to Well, that was one of the central conflicts of second wave feminism is whether or not It was like the driver was absolutely rejecting all of these gender roles And acting out in that

Uh, you know, we can no longer just be considered mothers and all of that stuff And if you do participate in those behaviors, you are shackling yourself in the to the same bullshit that you know But they've always done what social context did that exist in exactly what social context do we exist in now? Exactly, which is why there are other waves of feminism that it didn't stop with second wave feminism It continued moving on and the evolution now is very much Uh, like feel it choose. Yeah as long as you have agency And complete agency. Mm-hmm. Then you're good. Yeah, I mean, I know I know someone who has a daughter and They're trying to raise them with the understanding that like I'm not giving you gendered toys

I'm not going to give like I'm not going to make your bedroom pink Not going to give barbie dolls and things that are like over the top just puzzles and yeah and toys that are agendered Um, and that isn't something that is like should you gravitate towards those things? I will stop you from playing with them Exactly, I won't make it the expectation for you I think that that's the subtle difference that people like Caitlyn and alex don't understand And push back on as if it were a condemnation of the feminine, right? If you want to subscribe to a gender role because that's what you want Who gives a shit? I don't think anyone is opposed to that

Um, or at least most people. Yeah, I was gonna say there are some people but that's not indicative of The groups that they rail on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean currently I uh, I Clean the whole day and I take care of all the animals and all that stuff I I am feeling you know, and I cook so I'm feeling what would be considered the traditional Gender role and nobody is like how dare you act like that get a you know The people who have these ideas in their head and are like really rigid about them are the people on the right And the people who are in these traditional Expectation spheres because people like lauren southern have come out and been like talked about how they don't want

necessarily to be a housewife and and Have to raise kids and then their fan bases like got pretty mad about that, of course They are the ones who are imposing something on other people as opposed to like I don't have any I don't I don't know I can't speak for everybody but Anything about Caitlyn Bennett that I've ever been offended by has nothing to do with her wearing dresses And uh, you know having long hair and the things that she brings up as her feminine Um role. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah. It's everything to do with the behavior. Yeah. Yeah Um, and so I just wish that they'd get a little more

Nuanced I wish they but they can't because it's an intentional misunderstanding. Yeah. I and also some of that gender role Stuff is self-justifying along the way as like It is it is comforting to believe if you are in a gender role that you are where you are supposed to be And watching people do stuff that you Feel like you can't You then have to be like well. No, that's because they're wrong Otherwise you're gonna have to do a lot of self-reflecting on all of that and that's probably in the mix too. Yeah So we have one last clip, but it's a pretty long one

Because alex like I said you can tell that he's drunk. Yeah, you can tell that he's fucked up and he's like I'm jealous of your fiance. Oh Gender roles are to put women on pedestals mommy. Yeah He's all over the place and so he comes back after katelin leaves and owens gone And I've never done this before but I'm gonna play an entire segment commercial to commercial of his last On the 11th his last commercial break before he hands the baton off to paul joseph watson Yeah to host the fourth hour because it is an absurd

Thing and I think you know, I don't think people understand like Like what his show sometimes is like this is an entire segment You know, I want to get this out front for people because I'm not a dramatic person, but They've got some really bad forces Circling me right now, which is fine. I expected this. I wanted to fight. I actually feel good We're thinking I see evil stuff going on and really bad people after me. I'm like damn. I'm doing my job

It's like I see it like dollar signs for jesus what for for humanity for our future I see it like winning the the the lottery and they like don't you know, well, we'll do this. We'll do that and I'm like Yeah, no, that's why I did what I did 25 years ago but uh They are really pissed off right now and You can feel in in the middle of 2019 That we're entering that crossroads right now together

And uh, you know, I've seen things out of my fellow americans that make me ashamed to be an american But i've also seen things from my fellow americans that make me proud to be an american We're a minute in and he hasn't said anything Yeah, yeah, you said nothing No, he said that they are coming to get him and that makes him feel good Because that means he's doing the right thing some things americans do great some bad lotteries This is like it's it's nothing these words mean nothing. They're so vague. This is bullshit And that's really the paradox here

You've got this commitment from me 1 trillion percent I won't sell out one damn piece of our agenda. I will settle it never back down one percent In fact, I'll probably die of a heart attack Worried that I'm not fighting as hard as I can and that's nothing special. That's what it's like to be red-blooded But I just am so blessed in 2019 to know all of you When I shake your hands on the street I take pictures of you

When I read your emails and I see what you're doing you don't read any heroes and dreams And I just wish that I was wiser You know like the bible says I wish I was wise wise Matthew 11 like serpent peaceful as a dove whatever. I'll be honest. I'm not We know because I've been far beyond the realms of death now You're not wise as a serpent peaceful as a dove because you're dumb and violent Yeah

I've seen the enemy. I've seen their plan of I've seen what they what they're what they're currently doing. It's just so crazy You're like, why would this happen? You're so close It wouldn't good men and good women We're just trying to live our lives And because we weren't satanic We could never imagine people were

Well, let me tell you something folks Evil is as real As the sun coming up in the morning Okay And as Thomas jefferson said oh 40 something years ago. Let's hear this All the evil men in tyrants seem to flourish Is a good man

Do nothing So, um, this isn't a thomas jefferson quote. Nope. I was very excited when he said it I was once he said like thomas jefferson said I was like, oh, who actually said what you're about to say I mean, that's a real quote, but I was just really fucking up the attribution It's actually really interesting the way he's doing it because very commonly that quote is erroneously attributed to edmund burke JFK even made that mistake in a speech he delivered back in 1961 But there's no record of edmund burke ever saying that the quote traces back to the philosopher john stewart mill The original quote is uh quote

Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends than that good men should look on and do nothing From that point forward. It was a game of telephone until somebody found the right phrasing of john stewart mill's words I can't even find any real evidence that anyone other than alex thinks. That's a jefferson quote Point is every single time alex jones tries to quote thomas jefferson It's a completely fake quote or something someone else said He's a complete idiot and he knows literally nothing about the person who is his hero Yeah, that is really funny that he quotes thomas jefferson all the time all the time and yet is never Does he know anything that thomas jefferson said he has some lore

Is that an issue? Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's a big issue It's oh it's crazy to me because i'm not I don't think we've forced it or anything like this But it has become a thing where you hear him bring up thomas jefferson you're like I'm gonna pre-optimally be like get that name out your mouth. Yeah, it's like uh alex Come on back And i'm gonna tell you how the universe works i've I don't have all the answers, but let me tell you something as martin luther king said justice The universe bends towards justice some

Someone tell you a little secret So, uh, that's not a martin luther king jr. Quote. Nope. That is something he said But it is not a quote of his per se The metaphor of the arc of the universe being long but bending towards justice was something that had a long tradition when he used it in his 1956 statement after the mont uh montgomery bus boycott The first person to be credited with this expression is theodore parker a unitarian minister and noted abolitionist who included the phrasing in his 1853 book 10 sermons of religion This one's more acceptable for alex to not know the history of because martin luther king did make it much more popular

But i've made it my mission in life to explain how all alex really knows our sound bites And he has no idea of the context any of the things he talks about exists Both martin luther king and theodore parker would have hated alex jones and everything he stands for So, uh, all this is bullshit alex is stupid little secret If you don't stand up against evil you might be a redneck god doesn't recognize you. Oh, sorry So close it doesn't matter if you know about good and evil It doesn't matter if you know the secrets of the universe or good and evil If you don't stand up against evil and if you don't take lex

For the truth god will reject you so I'll tell you again Taking jesus christ is your lord and savior is important But if you really take jesus christ If you're lord and savior, please you're going to stand up against evil So i don't think he said really much of anything at this point. I have not heard anything specific Yeah, no, it's all vague platitudes and uh secrets of the universe and all this

Yeah, it makes me think he does he reminds me of somebody channeling someone saying You don't need to do a different voice. It's someone who thinks they have something profound to say um, and uh Doesn't yeah, um, but I want to make this clear. I haven't edited this at all. This is the entire segment We are just pausing it at points It's that simple So you look at this whole devil worshiping world you say, oh god doesn't exist all that As you watch world government and mark of the beast

Being openly manifest and you don't think god's real Ladies and gentlemen, I'll give you a newsflash God's real the holy ghost is real jesus christ is real and satan And baffle mat and all of his millions of servants are real We're throwing out less the bible less old baby. That ain't old baby. That ain't old the bible Dusty roads, what is he doing? That's god Creating a whole new group of people that have free will like he does on a planet

But realizing those children are gonna have to face free will Are they and so god had one rule if i'm gonna give birth to billions of free consciousness creatures I'm gonna have to let my failure lucifer upon them. That's the only rule I'm gonna make humans. I'm gonna sick the devil As thomas jefferson said you better sick the devil on him otherwise it's gonna be law. Yeah And god said I want company in the universe I want a future. I'm lonely. I'm gonna have these children

And i'm gonna let satan attack them Because they deserve to be free will you don't give somebody free will Without giving them a little thing you don't create big tech robots that follow the system cool Is this about facebook if you're gonna have a child like any adults have a child or the devil They're gonna die someday to give birth to a child is to give death To to have a child is a human sacrifice pause that that's what a satan is pause that that is To have a child is to give birth to death

Oh Wow, alex. Uh, you got a great dorm here. I love the black light posters, but I gotta get the fuck out of here I gotta go. I gotta go home. Look the six pack is gone. I gotta be gone too I really really love your uh, einstein with his tongue out poster. I think it's really cool. Yeah The beads in front of the door perfect. Love it To the universe to god think about that Think about that you have a child You're turning them loose in the universe like a ship with little sail on this big ocean of consciousness

Children are fish And so that's god's big secret What is that he so loved the world he sent his only begotten son So that anyone that believed upon him Will be given eternal life. You think that's stupid. That's some preacher. No, that's real. It's free will Now it's stupid god's big secret is the verse in the bible that literally everyone knows. Yes That's a poorly kept secret. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah God gave you consciousness, but you've got to decide

That of all these systems You want to follow god's program It's a program You're like walking into best buy saying I I want the jesus christ program from the creator of the planet I I want that it or god's like, oh, you want the program? Here's the program By the way, there's going to be some problems before you get past the launch phase because nothing's free You're like, well, I still want the program. Okay. Well The way he just sends her death

This is eternal life But you're going to get tested a little because you know, you never got a job or built a house or had a life or without cost And god's like I just want to make sure Before we go to the next level because there's something big going on up there You know kind of feel there's something big going on. This is where thing. I mean, it's already way off the rails Yeah, but the alex says something coming up that you might need to brace yourself for okay, so Pre noah was god's alpha testing phase sure post noah was the beta test. Yeah post jesus is full on mac os like that's what we're talking

I don't know enough about software to Know the subtleties, but i'll say yes. Yeah, okay working the kinks out Imagine when you crest that ocean a big stormy ocean of god's consciousness Imagine before you go up that stairway and you come up out of that and you're like, oh wow God's going to be sitting there and you've got this interdimensional machine gun feeding you ammo You're like, yeah, I can't believe I didn't join you queer. It's okay because we got it. It's it's all about to happen Everything's about to happen. God's waiting for you on the other side

But you have to say get behind me satan But you look at all these leftists we can make fun of them we can laugh at them We can cry about them, but there are people that join the system There are people that scared There are people that point the last and say oh, it was a false system. What what did it know? Where did that come from beta testing shut up the truth is You are a spirit You are an eternal piece of data

All right, cool a seed And you're gonna either fall to hell Or you're gonna rise through the dimensions to heaven and you're going to Grow and just do things you can't imagine I mean, let me just tell you something. I've seen the other side What I've been up a few dimensions. Oh, it's amazing. What? It's incredible, but it's also really stressful

Okay, all right, hold on hold the fucking phone. What are you talking about? Oh god I've been to the higher dimensions. Oh, yeah, what's your review real stressful? I've been up there I give it a c plus. I've been up there into god's consciousness. It is fantastic, but deadlines. It's full of deadlines Deadlines I like it even in his cosmology God is going to ask you to fire an interdimensional machine gun His god is guns, but it's to be fair if you have like a heaven

That would be alex's heaven Like if you have that's like individual input into what heaven is right Then why wouldn't there be an interdimensional machine gun for alex's? Yeah, like that's a fucked up thought, but it's also like that's that makes total sense for you alex Yeah, that's true. I didn't even miss a beat on that What I'm more disturbed by is alex pretending that he is seen Uh multiple levels of god consciousness really stressful very stressful really stress Such a fun

I have seen the heavens part for me. I have walked past the golden gates I have seen god and his vision showed upon me and I was Really fucking stressed by it. I was exhausted. It is not heaven It is just kind of annoying like you've got your boss over your shoulder It's like an ambivalent evangelist like a evangelist who wants to tell you about the coming of the glory of god and how much of a headache It's gonna be It's weird That's almost more reasonable and yet even crazier. It has a shade of believability to it because of the human aspect

But anyway, he's gonna wrap this up. He's just got about another minute left So do you want to care about mainline television and main one culture and all this or do you really want To experience the universe on the limited potential To be a god is a big deal You know the yogis teach everybody's a god and the satanist teacher god. You're not a god. We're tossing yogis in You're like a couch couch You're not I don't mean that meanly. You're not the big potential What?

You're not even the baby. You're not even the man You're not the man that built the civilization built the castle built the world built the ships built the spaceships You're a couch youth. That's an even more offensive version of what he always yelled about obama like you didn't build your business Yeah, I'm a couch. Yeah, you're a couch. You're just a couch, dad You think because the satanist tell you you're a god because you have the potential of god. You're the god God has a stairway actually you But there's going to be incredible pressure Going up that stairway

Paul watson for me was gonna tell you He's gonna talk about what he wants because it's a free universe I'm gonna talk about what I talk about All right, I'll see you back tomorrow. I'm living in central live I appreciate this amazing crew and I'm even more thankful for you the viewer and listener because without you we're nothing I salute you all and I thank consciousness Free will and god. I'm alex Jones I think that they played money on the way out because there was a subtle

Get to a fucking plug. You've been preaching for nine minutes. This ends with a pivot And it didn't it didn't that's crazy. I think alex was too Overwhelmed by his desire to tell people he's been to heaven. I think he misses roger Probably I think he really misses roger I think that there is a definite element of that because it drove him to this Yeah, roger is his dad. Yeah the way that shroyer is alex is the way alex is shroyer's dad So roger has become alex's dad. Well, think about what a great situation he was in In 2015. Yeah, for sure in terms of being able to rake in tons of money fly

Mostly under the radar with a couple flare-ups here and then when you want to try and like really go hard for pr Right, but it was mostly under his own control. He had a lot of agency over the things that were happening to him He was getting away with saying incredibly horrible things because people just like he's a fucking clown who gives a shit roger shows up in his life He ends up becoming the biggest trump booster in the world and a lot of a lot of his Quality control in terms of his own control slipped away. Yeah roger's narrative started becoming info wars narratives The machine became focused so entirely on the campaign that they lost their way Uh and now after trump won it has to still be the campaign

Much like trump has to do all of his rallies while he's president in order to keep the ball moving You know alex has to fight the deep state because it's a it's a way to keep it as if there's some sort of will they won't They yeah about about things that they think what the election was all about will he win? Won't he win now that he's won the can't have that tension anymore without a fake villain so He's lost everything for roger at least in terms of his independence. Yeah, I was gonna say do you think? At any point like even it let's let's say he lives to 75. Do you think at any point? He's really going to wrestle. He's not how much roger stone used him and does not gonna live to 75 and no that's true

And no no because it's because so much of his brand is based on like self-made Yeah, it is his his false image that he's self-made and the masculinity that's wrapped in there I don't think that there'll ever come a point unless like I could see a situation because people Who can who go to like deep recovery? Yeah, maybe go to AA get involved in the process That's sort of there are dramatic changes that people can make in their lives if they're willing to engage in the process Yeah, and if he did something like that not necessarily like AA well, maybe it checks into rehab Sure, you know, that's entirely reasonable for him and it's probably for the best But it doesn't have to be take that form right but some sort of like really intensive therapy

Like if you were able to engage in that process I think you could see a version of alex jones that could wrestle with that But absent that no he'll always make excuses always rationalize and the path he's on just leads further downward. Yeah, like, uh, I don't know I don't know. It's uh, it's a bummer. This episode is really weird to me this document of this time because you have Alex having a really great time demonizing Congolese immigrants. Yeah, he felt really good because it's like, oh, this is territory. I kind of know I already did the thing a couple years back. Right. I know. I know some of those beats This is a victory lap. Yeah, I can bring back that one-man show that I did a couple years ago. All right. He nipsy hustle

um, so he uh You know, he's kind of flying high on that And then he I think I think what I ended up happening on the 11th is that just everything went wrong Because it's the roger thing and it it didn't go the way you wanted it to that's one big piece of it Yeah, and then he's getting high on his own supply Um, metaphorically Because the videos that katelyn bennett put out and the video that oan shroyer put out are not supposed to affect alex They're not they're supposed to affect the audience that then feeds into alex's machine

When he watched those katelyn bennett videos He was the mark and he's being viscerally affected by the propaganda that's supposed to trick everyone else In the same way with oan's videos with the uh, the people Out in san antonio. He got viscer viscerally Affected by it. You can't be the propagandist and under the sway of your own propaganda And that's kind of a lot of the tension that I feel That's coming to the surface with his Uh, the the addition of booze

On this show and that's you know, he's really falling apart. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's really bad And then also after this After this episode ends he goes to the google headquarters in austin Because steven krauter was out doing one of his public spectacles Where he sets up a table and he had hate speech doesn't exist change my mind. Oh, okay that thing where and alex and oan shroyer show up and uh, oan shroyer has a pretty decent conversation decent uh, uh, heavy quotes. Let's calm it down Not yelling at each other right conversation

Sitting at the table they have a conversation about hate speech and whatever it seemed like a fine exchange between two people That are both dumb. Yeah, uh, but then when alex shows up He's trying to make it all about himself Of course He's drunk and he's trying to turn it into a alex jones spectacle and you can tell that steven krauter is not super into it Yeah, he's humoring him to an extent But also like trying to keep his space his And there's a real tension of like

All right I'm doing this because I just got demonetized and i'm trying to keep the brand moving Right. I don't have time for you alex coming in and making this about yourself I think that it's a it's a sign that even the free speech grifters aren't really interested in what alex is doing And they view him as too far and if alex had shown up completely sober and engaged in it as like i am a part of your Yeah, yeah, yeah thing then that's one thing But alex didn't he showed up drunk and was like this is my show now and uh It's a it's a you know, it's a bridge that'll probably never burn

Because you know, yeah, they still want to use each other right, but it's a bridge that's deteriorating It's not as easy to cross anymore It seems like that's the same situation for when roger Way back when when he was on regularly when he would plug his legal defense fund Immediately after just like he did yeah on this episode today and alex got pissed You know, he didn't like somebody else getting the money that he thought is his so Crowder Crowder doing that or alex doing that to Crowder makes perfect sense Oh, yeah

Well, I mean alex is offended when someone tries to piggyback his shit, but he's perfectly willing to piggyback other people's stuff Um And it's weird. I mean if you want to go watch that Crowder video whatever go for it But I didn't want to include any of it because it's just kind of nonsensical and then also it's a desperate pr stunt So who really cares there's not a lot of substance next time they do one of those dumb tables We should go there and do our own dumb pr stunt where we set up the exact same table on the opposite side of the street And put our little banner on there that just says fuck off Uh, I don't know what point would nobody have I don't know I I like how you're thinking, but I don't want to do it

Yeah, I understand. So I don't know man. It's it's interesting I assume that by the time this episode comes out because we're recording this on thursday during the day You know, we'll come out friday morning. I assume by then alex will probably have done something else embarrassing Most likely I do feel like every time we're in the present. It's just like shit's not good irrelevant does not look good. No um But you know Stuff is dangerous and it's worth pointing out. So You know, there's that

It's really a bummer to find out that the heaven my parents have told me about since I was a very young child Is going to be really stressful stressful that sucks What's the point of having a fucking afterlife if it's just more of the same shit you're dealing with now? Totally. Yeah, I don't know. It's it is a little bit of a you know shades or scales falling from the eyes Yeah, heaven's not all it's cracked up to be and god specifically sicked the devil on us It wasn't just the devil was part of the thing and he broke away His god is like let's get these people the devil. I don't want to hang out with that god He's the one killing people. All right. He's the one who told the devil to go get him. Yeah, this is

His fault. Yeah, this is a two-man game. I don't trust any of these people. Good cop bad cop. Yeah good deity bad deity It's no good. I don't want to be stuck in that box Yeah, I don't know. I mean as I sit here and as I reflect a tiny bit. I agree His spirituality has a lot of holes And it's just a bummer. Yeah, but more importantly I think this episode is entirely worth it. If only to hear alex three times trying guilt roger stone about not talking So good. So good. That is a great display of Just a guy who's confident. Just a carrier out is great. Yeah, just a guy who knows what is what yeah

A guy who is comfortable in his place has straight up relations with folks just good just good Anyway, we'll be back on monday in another episode but until then we have a website We do it's knowledge fight.com. Yes. We're also on twitter. We are it's at knowledge underscore fight And i'm at go to bed jordan. That's correct. We're also on facebook We are well, you can download our show if you were go to the itunes You go to any other podcastual application all sorts of various places libson Uh the grocery store. Do we have we have a we have them in red boxes now

Not only red boxes those uh, those machines that sell lottery tickets. Oh really? That was a good get for us So, uh, we'll we'll you know as we come to the end of this, I guess uh matt fury the guy who made pepe the frog Yeah, he uh, he's not killed anybody. He seems nice. Uh, I don't know anything about him other than a few comments that i've seen from him that seem Okay, but I know that if you'd killed somebody we probably would have heard about yeah, I would assume Uh, but one guy who technically probably has killed somebody is alex jones Andy and chanzas you're on the air. Thanks for holding So alex, i'm a first-time caller. I'm a huge fan. I love your work. I love you